bojo is king, brexit is on, stuff is fvcked, tomorrow starts here -- new govt new thread new battle

i know he'll be locked for some but @simonk_133 has made good points today on another reason for the fall of the red wall = the abolition by the coalition (in the name of austerity) of the regional development agencies:

https://twitter.com/simonk_133/status/1215546506499018753

Well, if he’s around in the next weeks I’ll be sure to ask him.

The original Corbyn victory - and to an extent even his second - was about uniting a coalition of members that went beyond just the left, it was a mix of young left people and soft social democrats who were appalled by austerity.

So far RLB has held onto the first group fairly well. What she isn't doing so far is answering the question of how she will prevent the party from walking straight into the same cannons over again and it's essential that she finds a way of doing so or she won't be able to get the broader base she needs to win. There are probably a lot of undecideds out there who like her and her approach but don't want to take the risk. The planet will continue burning if Labour doesn't win etc.

an important part of being a centrist is imagining that you personally are the target audience, the swing voter, therefore for example what you find to be "cringe" is of vital importance, and if you are told to "fuck off and join the tories" then that's nothing less than an admission of defeat.

also all language policing on ilx belongs on the worst still-active thread on ilx = Words, usages, and phrases that annoy the shit out of you...

Think the above is just on the continuum of centrist cunts (tbf “cunts” is redundant at this stage) demanding that the left bow down and give up everything they don’t like and never talk back or mock them again. As ever, fishhook is real.

fizzles did a very good long post about starmer and his triangulating ways and how no good will come from them. I'll just content myself calling him an abysmal crypto-tory melt who has no place in Labour party that is supposed to be a party of opposition - not a shadow compromise version of the tories.

There is so much strawmanning from melts re: cranky hard left/‘your a tory’ even from extremely online people who should know better. The long ‘90s is one helluva drug. It’s usually people who are like ‘INCENDIARY column Suzanne/Caitlin/Marina!’ and anything that disrupts their busy day of logrolling is infra dig.

xp fair enough, but do we have to hear it dozens of times a day for the next three months? willing to do a trade for this

i know he'll be locked for some but @simonk_133 has made good points today on another reason for the fall of the red wall = the abolition by the coalition (in the name of austerity) of the regional development agencies:
https://twitter.com/simonk_133/status/1215546506499018753

I can't see this - too bad, I used to like simonk's posts, shame he's gone locked - so this may well either refer to this or cover the same points, but I thought this post from a week ago was interesting (whole thread both up and down, but particularly this tweet from the middle which I hope I'm about to embed):

And at the start of the 2010s, what happened to nearly half a £billion of lottery funding intended for charities like my home village's regeneration?

It was diverted to the Olympic village in London, because the government underspent on ithttps://t.co/nCu3teitKb

/10

— Dean Burnett (@garwboy) January 2, 2020

use your FP privileges if you don't like my opinions or repetition of post gyac. I'm in campaigning mode, deal with it - I honestly cgaf!

But I don’t want to fp you ffs

dean burnett, now there's an ilx zing target of yore

oh dear

I don't remember that at all (I don't follow that account, it got retweeted somewhere, and I haven't clicked outside that thread), but now I'll go and do my research

apologies for retweeting someone not ILX-approved but hopefully we can get on board with the "fuck your revisionist 2012 Olympics nostalgia bullshit" vibe, even if I have chosen a poor ambassador for it

nice to see charities have got a mouth when it comes to money owed to them by the government, that's probably not covered by the gagging orders most of them have signed.

well, a nakhchivan zing target anyway. I'm not discouraging, just reminiscing! he's probably got a good point there tbh

don't quite follow how finding use of a word slightly embarrassing makes me a centrist who believes Labour should capitulate to racists?

All those extreme media melts seem to be into Jess Phillips for some reason!

big question for 2020: was nakhchivan a melt wrapped in an enigma?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/10/opinion/brexit-scotland-northern-ireland.html

testify Mr Edgerton let's get Balkan in this joint

Freed from the grip of the decayed British nation and British state, England could finally be done with its delusions of grandeur. Fanciful beliefs about British importance in the world would crumble.

this seems a very generous view of much of england's boundless capacity for self-deception

A 'handful of hardcore Unionists' in NI seems to be downplaying things somewhat, there's more than a handful in Scotland, for a start.

i'm not sure why we should stick at England either, the home counties or the northern gammon belt could secede, maybe a resurgent Kernow, greater metropolitan boroughs could become latte-sipping croissant-munching city states

build a wall around sheffield - no-one gets in, no-one gets out, pure survival of the fittest

I agree with D Edgerton, but there will always be too many nutters in england (and scotland/wales tbf) saying we are finally capitulating to the German Empire after beating them in two wars blah blah...

airlift the entirety of coventry and rebuild it on a giant platform in the north sea

ooh like what Clive's been up to

interesting that clive lewis, a misogynist who resents feminists and the metoo movement for limiting his behaviours, should all of a sudden be a radical feminist when asked a question on trans rights https://t.co/75Fk5fy2tX

— chip spice (@internetratbag) January 10, 2020

Nutters in Scotland never do that two wars thing ime, they're more fixated on 1690. They tend to hate Catholics much more than foreigners.

same thing iirc

lol at 'from what i can see there isn't a problem in norwich' from alan partridge clive there

The thing about the Empire helps explain how it was possible to be a Unionist in Scotland and NI and still hate the English.

Legit felt a small proud of being Irish (an increasingly rare sensation) cos of the RIC backlash this week. Just for the plain fact of people not standing for FG’s revisionism, which ofc is why they have taken it off the compulsory secondary school curriculum. Just genuinely shocked at how little history even politically savvy people I know over here know, like all the time. That’s what’s behind all this ofc.

and now a word from Keir's campaign team

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EN7nXSnW4AASMYl?format=jpg&name=900x900

we may need "take off and nuke the party from orbit" as a second preference

matt pound, fucking hell - how are you supposed to take Starmer in good faith as a centre-left candidate ... oh no don't worry they've got a former Corbyn guy in as well.

xps to NV

Come out ye black and tans number 1in the British charts you say?

It's started... The beacons are lit. pic.twitter.com/iPF15nlQ6O

— LIVERPOOL, CHAMPION OF THE WORLD! (@rorysalad) January 9, 2020

looking forward to my dual West Midlands/People's Republic of Hull passport

monarchy referendum ? kill me now

wait Clive Lewis is good again

why is Cornwall black? Has it been given back to France (where its rocks, tin and sedimentary make-up show it is where it originally belongs!)

a monarchy referendum would be literally the funniest most awesome finale to the UK i can possibly imagine

i mean this is a pointless reverie but still

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/Cornish_flag_small.jpg

Cornish flag is black and white iirc calz which is maybe ironic idk

yeah what gyac said

Straight up down question between abolish and romanov https://t.co/4rf9QnkyQx

— Crowsa Luxemburg (@quendergeer) January 10, 2020

i'm still enjoying the imaginary "vote no on the monarchy" tv broadcasts in my head

what about if the Queen had to go on the Masked Singer and the monarchy was abolished if she lost?

xps
I should know I've been to Newquay enough times.

Masked Singer, Love Island, either way

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