you will ofc be aware that in such a designation the other variable is the observer's capacity for befuddlement
allow me to further muddy water by suggesting an advance troll technique:
the observer so puzzled by whether or not something is a troll or not that any third party onlooker (and indeed the original subject, the suspected troll themselves) might wonder whether or not the perplexed-possible-trollée is not infact a faux-trolled-troll
fuckit mordy got in there
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:32 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol tim
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:32 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
i think to troll one must be on at least some level intending to troll, so i disagree nv
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
we shall, possibly, have to lurk under that bridge when we come to it
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
For there to be trolling, intent is paramount. Except, of course, the most successful specimens rely on the trollee's structural inability to reliably decipher the troll's exact intentions. In other words, the best trolling may or may not be an instance of trolling at all.
Apologies for restating the obvious.
xps
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:33 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
Feel like an essential component of trolling is the ethos that self-amusement/-satisfaction > comity.
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:34 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
eh yes and no
the intent is from the pov of the troll and therefore, while it can be unknown from outside, it can never have an actual value of unknown
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:35 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
xp
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:35 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
Necessary but not sufficient, my criterion.
― Come and Rock Me, Hot Potatoes (Old Lunch), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:36 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
'What if the troll doesn't know that he's trolling?'
– Donald Rumsfeld
― pomenitul, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:36 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
was socrates a troll? what if yr asking a disingenuous question meant to provoke someone's assumption bc you believe there's value to be extracted from the conflict even if you don't necessarily 100% believe yr method of provocation inherently (asking questions etc)
― Mordy, Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:36 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink
but the person intent upon behaving as if each new item in the world that does not please then were a troll, the trollée-näif if you will, what are we to make of this particular subtroll?
― phil neville jacket (darraghmac), Thursday, 15 August 2019 14:36 (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink