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Stephen kinnock's comments this morning particularly ridiculous because (a) we can clearly see that there's an out of touch metropolitan class, but they very much aren't the people who lead / vote labour, and (b) "coffee bar"

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 December 2019 11:42 (six years ago)

it's the "latte sipping, croissant munching metropolitan" cliche all over again, until the end of time
"croissant-munching, latte-sipping": instances of misconceived media-class self-loathing ITT

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 19 December 2019 11:44 (six years ago)

xp he represents a welsh constituency! He’s married to a literal former head of state! His dad was LOTO! Aaaargh

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 11:57 (six years ago)

amazing that he's managed to remain such a salt-of-the-earth man of the people despite that, he's such an asset to the labour party and really to the united kingdom as a whole

WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 11:58 (six years ago)

Busy coffee morning in @SPthecentre with @DavidReesAM @Cllr_Saif @FreeguardSharon @dynbachargoll speaking with local residents. #Aberavon #PortTalbot pic.twitter.com/6tbW6VGTB0

— Stephen Kinnock (@SKinnock) December 16, 2017

nashwan, Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:01 (six years ago)

Getting a bit misty eyed thinking back to those halcyon days of February 2018 when *checking to make sure I didn't imagine it* Stephen Kinnock MP went on hunger strike for proportional representation.

— Grzeg (@Grzeg) April 4, 2018

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:07 (six years ago)

skinnock doesn't know this bcz (unlike me, born and brought up on the mid-welsh borders) he's a london lad in the end, but italian coffee bars were *literally* a pleasing feature of medium-size-welsh-town life back at least to the 50s. (in fact sidolis first opened in the 20s!! and others followed: https://www.sidolis-icecream.co.uk/about/the-sidolis-story/)

mark s, Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:13 (six years ago)

That’s why I mentioned his constituency. Same applied to Owen “frothy coffee” Smith!

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:14 (six years ago)

Ash has found this, excellent work.

The Real Working Class™ don’t go to coffee bars in Westminster.

They buy coffee machines and milk frothers at the taxpayer’s expense instead. https://t.co/LaTZG9PZt5 pic.twitter.com/56yXmssV1D

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) December 19, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:23 (six years ago)

Imagine being an ever bigger tit than your dad?

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:24 (six years ago)

My favourite political coffee fact is that in the 1920s Plaid Cymru's NEC decided that tea represented England's attempt to erode Welsh culture and the party would, henceforth, serve only coffee at their meetings.

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) December 19, 2019

lol!

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:49 (six years ago)

beat me to it lol

mark s, Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:50 (six years ago)

Christ, I had no idea Plaid Cymru had been around that long... and had so little impact on the world.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:52 (six years ago)

I thought the same until I watched that highly informative docu-drama The Crown!

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:58 (six years ago)

90-odd years of trying to persuade the Welsh to support independence, talk about a meaningless body of men that had gathered together for no good purpose.

Soup on my lanyard (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 December 2019 13:05 (six years ago)

at least one of their leading activists got to be an inspirational tutor to the prince of wales in his formative years

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 13:09 (six years ago)

shame they didn't inspire him to off himself

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 December 2019 13:10 (six years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/19/high-court-says-uks-1012-child-citizenship-fee-is-unlawful

This is good. It's a tactic May used all the time - where you can't stop people exercising their right to citizenship, etc, using legal means, make it vastly more expensive and complicated than it needs to be so people just give up.

Srinivasaraghavan VONCataraghavan (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 December 2019 13:10 (six years ago)

at least one of their leading activists got to be an inspirational tutor to the prince of wales in his formative years

there's only one good royal tutor and did u know he once walked across afghanistan and also he speaks dari

WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 13:27 (six years ago)

https://cdn-cms.f-static.com/uploads/859298/2000_5b44faee8a98d.jpg

mark s, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:10 (six years ago)

love mark


"Messages about fast-paced economic change/globalisation may go down well in coffee bars in London, but don't speak to workers whose factories are closing down."

No contempt. Hardly controversial. Blindingly obvious.#WakeUpAndSmellTheCoffee 😀

— Stephen Kinnock (@SKinnock) December 19, 2019

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:11 (six years ago)

stephen you're posting cringe bro i'm begging you

WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:15 (six years ago)

“😀”

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:17 (six years ago)

yeah somehow that makes it so much worse

WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:21 (six years ago)

thank god the melts haven't got any better since 2017. be quite easy to brush them aside on this form.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:24 (six years ago)

Globalization fine/something to get over with when it was about neoliberal precarity but big no no when it's about actually saving the planet I see.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:25 (six years ago)

i'm honestly not sure what his actual point is?

a very powerful woman in the dog world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:25 (six years ago)

Workers are afraid of socialism, foreigners and the green new deal afaict.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:26 (six years ago)

i'm honestly not sure what his actual point is?

in this single tweet or on a more fundamental, existential level?

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:27 (six years ago)

he's basically saying voters want to maintain the status quo, which in his neck of the woods is the reason why the manufacturing/heavy industries are dead. We want a manifesto with no industrial strategy - and we want it now!

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:34 (six years ago)

so glad that jeremy corbyn didn't win so that the rich weren't compelled to flee our newly-minted socialist republic

EXCLUSIVE: Billionaire hedge-fund manager Alan Howard and former Lehman Brothers bigwig Jeremy Isaacs - both Conservative Party donors - have quietly applied for Cypriot citizenship, reports @clarebaldwin. Meet the Brits who won't Brexit. https://t.co/kVU5n1BXCU

— Andrew RC Marshall (@Journotopia) December 19, 2019

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:35 (six years ago)

(VO: you cannot actually meet them)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:44 (six years ago)

I'm sure if these exciting opportunities to pursue careers throughout the EU were available for all then People's Vote would piss a 2nd ref. As they aren't available to vast swathes of the country, then the disenfranchised will vote with their fists and give proxy Leave votes to right-wing tories who will fuck their lives up even more.

― calzino, Thursday, December 19, 2019 11:03 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I know what you mean but it's wishful thinking to say the Brexit disruption will only affect precious rich people and their careers. My bro in law, not hugely loaded, has been sent to do his sales of industrial parts in east Asia, whereas before he got sent to France but this has changed because brexit, so travel time is vastly longer and time spent with family reduced to almost nil. Very typical of the disruption

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:56 (six years ago)

"it's wishful thinking to say the Brexit disruption will only affect precious rich people"

where did I say this?

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:58 (six years ago)

Xp which is to say all sorts of middle income jobs rely on EU freedom of movement/streamlining, and all sorts of low income jobs rely on some sort of product or service being sold in EU or bought from

You didn't literally say it but I felt it was implied. Don't get me wrong. A lot of remain discourse is hideously class blind, like the article I saw saying the BBC has to recruit top talent from abroad and can't possibly be expected to recruit British people.

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:01 (six years ago)

But the people on 50k complaining about Brexit disruption are only the vocal, able to speak tip of the iceberg of people who will be fucked over

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:03 (six years ago)

I was just simply pointing out that not everyone is born middle class and often don't see these opportunities or benefits of EU membership, any implications you project onto the post are your own baggage.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:06 (six years ago)

I think maybe this guy should be the labour leader idk

He might be leaving, but he still knows how to torch the Tories on the NHS. They don’t like hearing the truth. #QueensSpeech pic.twitter.com/5GUu3QqsIq

— Rachael Swindon (@Rachael_Swindon) December 19, 2019

Simon H., Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:08 (six years ago)

>> Strange times <<
The poll winners' party

It probably won't surprise you to learn that champagne corks were popping at 10pm prompt at the Baby Shard on Thursday night, as the Times and the Sun celebrated the projected result of the exit poll.

It's also unlikely to surprise you to learn that Rupert Murdoch, Rebekah Brooks, Les Hinton and all the usual News UK suspects were there too, getting their fourth and fifth trolleys of booze brought in to the office by the time Blyth Valley announced.

The one thing that might surprise you though is that in among the revellers was... Cate Blanchett.

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:10 (six years ago)

https://media.giphy.com/media/StnSCsvTGIhaM/giphy.gif

mark s, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:20 (six years ago)

Xp @Calzino let's not be snarling each other

Never changed username before (cardamon), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:24 (six years ago)

Snarling? give it up!

Blanchett was in the Hudds Examiner interviewing a Syrian refugee Cheesemaker yesterday. I don't know why that give me the idea she might not be a tory voter. I mean she's half Aussie/US for starters.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:28 (six years ago)

@gyac, where's that from? I might be asked to provide evidence when I refer to her as Tory scum

Simon H., Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:29 (six years ago)

it would be a real hypocritical dick-move to be pictured with a Syrian refugee and giving lip service to the positives of having a humane immigration system and then popping champers with the party of hostile environment.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:37 (six years ago)

xp popbitch mailout

glindr jackson (gyac), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:39 (six years ago)

THIS is voter suppression.

After the 2017 election there was only ONE conviction of voter fraud in the U.K.

that’s 0.000063%.

There is no valid legal necessity for such laws, the only reason they would implement this is to disenfranchise the most vulnerable in society https://t.co/gyIaItE3p8

— Becca 🌹 (@becca__lr) December 19, 2019

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:45 (six years ago)

well, yeah

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:47 (six years ago)

already planning to steal the next election.. must be worried about how knackered the economy will be by then.

calzino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:54 (six years ago)

never hurts to start rigging things in your favour as soon as you get a majority

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:55 (six years ago)

unless you give a shit about democracy, obv

i chop up the orange and chomp on the inside of it (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:56 (six years ago)


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