KNIVES OUT -- dir. Rian Johnson; Daniel Craig, Michael Shannon, Jamie Lee Curtis, Chris Evans, etc. etc.

Are u postin about another movie u ain't seen?

I have seen all three movies

ok full disclosure, I couldn't finish Looper.

Speaking of Fully Loaded

(I have no skin in this game tbrr but wiseacres gonna wiseacre.)

ILX love for this unbelievably shitty director continues to baffle me

This conflates the movie with the director, which is usually a mistake, imo. Good material, good actors, and good editing can overshadow the effect of a poor director. You say you saw it, what was it, other than the identity of its director, that you thought was unbelievably shitty?

the ILX love for this unbelievably shitty director continues to baffle me

I didn't like Looper, thought the Brothers Bloom (saw it on a plane) was fine but a misfire, liked Brick at the time but don't remember anything beyond that, and The Last Jedi was what it was. But this was really good. Sometimes it happens!

Johnson has just one response for the haters

https://media.giphy.com/media/2jv2kK9eLalOB6CYsh/giphy.gif

Good material, good actors, and good editing can overshadow the effect of a poor director. You say you saw it, what was it, other than the identity of its director, that you thought was unbelievably shitty?

did not say I saw Knives out, I said I saw the three films I cited. Brick and Looper were both written and directed by him and contain ideas/execution that made me actively angry. I will grant that it's possible that this movie does not repeat the mistakes of his others, but it doesn't seem likely ("Agatha Christie update!" doesn't exactly sound like much of a shift in his approach tbh) and frankly I'm not going to waste my time finding out. Fool me once, etc.

Shakey you get angry about some silly things

Rian Johnson should be banned from making films, hate him so much.

too bad, cuz this cast looks very entertaining

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, July 2, 2019 8:58 AM (five months ago) bookmarkflaglink

We should have a special thread dedicated to ILXors reviewing movies they haven't seen.

Last (x) Movies you are going to Avoid

Yeah, but we should also lock Shakey into it.

what did rian johnson do

murdered star wars iirc

the faux-whimsical sort-of-precious tone used in Brothers Bloom and Brick don't quite work in their execution for me but I think Knives Out works better because the more twee bits are jettisoned

Brothers Bloom felt like he was trying to do some sort of fairy tale junk, like a Just So Stories about criminal brothers

I was actually hoping after they said his name was Benoit that he was going to do a ridiculous, Poirot-esque accent, but the colonel sanders was entertaining enough on its own.

mh otm re 'brick' -- i remember it being really irritating, actually? didn't see brothers bloom

it's been a while since I've seen Brick but wasn't it sort of like a budget Donnie Darkoish crime film set in studentland.. It was okay but very much of its time even then. He's improved as a filmmaker and writer since then, obvs

We don't talk enough about how great the ending for Looper was

Brick was edited on a macbook (iirc) and made for a teensy budget and I'd take it over anything else he's done tbh

I was actually hoping after they said his name was Benoit that he was going to do a ridiculous, Poirot-esque accent, but the colonel sanders was entertaining enough on its own.

― Jordan Pickford LOLverdrive (Neanderthal), Tuesday, December 3, 2019 2:53 PM (forty minutes ago)

I thought making him genteel and Southern in the rich suburban Boston milieu was a clever England-to-America transposition of Poirot being a Belgian fusspot.

Brb going back in time to smash that macbook

Xps

I love Brick intensely

yo this was great! the only other two I’ve seen were his Star Wars and Looper, neither of which made much of an impression

So Drew Daniel noticed something. (And I'm annoyed I completely missed this, since Johnson had already talked about Deathtrap in the run up to release.)

two Chris-es
in white sweaters
in mysteries,
both alike in dignity . . . pic.twitter.com/TAJ1HmpgsD

— DREW DANIEL (@DDDrewDaniel) December 4, 2019

Would've paid good money to watch Thanksgiving family crowds watch Chris Evans make out with Daniel Craig.

Brick was edited on a macbook (iirc) and made for a teensy budget and I'd take it over anything else he's done tbh

― Simon H., Tuesday, December 3, 2019 3:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

yes

I think they put Evans in that sweater to reduce some of the Captain American mass he was still carrying.

I have no particular investment in Rian Johnson as a director. I saw Brick and Looper, and they were fine. My interest in Knives Out was mostly because it looked fun, and it was!

xp

Didn't they already solve that in the first Captain America movie? Bring back skinny Steve Rogers!

I have no particular investment in Rian Johnson as a director. I saw Brick and Looper, and they were fine. My interest in Knives Out was mostly because it looked fun, and it was!

― jaymc, Wednesday, December 4, 2019 5:02 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

same - I saw Brick in 2006 and liked it and I guess missed everything else since, altho tbh I think I saw Brothers Bloom...didn't know he did that, totally forgettable.... anyway Knives Out is really good, and a great Thanksgiving movie to see with a big crowd. also appeals to almost everyone.

i don't understand how anyone can get mad about Looper or Brick.

in this economy? me neither

idk I think feeling irritated by things that try for a tone, and you dislike that tone or feel they didn’t pull it off, is actually fine?

many movies don’t reach for a specific tone or have directors that don’t try new-to-them things and that’s the largest segment of the theater. for all the dumbasses howling about directors who didn’t get final cut... well, most of those dudes were churning out product, but it just wasn’t quite short enough or punchy enough

I’d take a few Rian Johnson missed shots over having a movie theater of screens showing completely on the nose productions

you can feel irritated by a movie and still happy you went to it over Angry Birds 3

in his Atlantic interview, Johnson said the superheroes in sweaters similarity was entirely coincidental https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/12/rian-johnson/602884/

either way, very into the Chris-es in sweaters look.

Chris Evans in cozy sweaters is the tumblr i never knew i needed

I liked how for such a New England film, no one tried for a New England accent, not even Evans, the only cast member afaik actually from Massachusetts.

Have we talked about the final shot of the film yet? Cause it was fantastic.

That was actually something that I think they kind of messed up (in a minor way). The mug (that's what you're talking about, right?) is iirc the first shot in the movie, but almost at the end you see Marta standing on the balcony, and her fingers are very deliberately, carefully positioned over the three "my house, my rules" etc. lines. Setting it up for the punchline, of course, but it called enough attention to itself that when they do deliver the punchline it lost (imo) some of its punch . Too telegraphed. Still funny, though.

The mug was part of it, but I also really loved the wide shot after of her looking down at the family from the balcony.

That's not the last shot though? The coffee cup is.

I dunno, it’s possible I may have misremembered - movie was hell of a ride! But that shot is the one that sticks in my mind.

Really enjoyed it.
Laughed a lot.
Was reminded of Ready or Not which is also pretty much must see.
THough that might just be the upper middle class bit.;
Some great lines including the heritage of the house thing.
& a lot depending on earlier foreshadowing but won't go further into that until people have seen it.

the line about the house having been purchased in the 80s was hilarious in context of "our family's legacy"

oh yeah stuck around to see if there was a post credits scene. wasn't a visual one.
Did hear a dog bark right at the end of the credits though which I assume must be intentional.

xxxp it's a great shot!

this sucked c'mon