US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

potential december thread titles, suggested in this thread:

The President Speaks Loudly
okay from what?
everyone's hair was on fire
I WANT NOTHING, I WANT NOTHING, I WANT NO QUID PRO QUO
Dammit Rudy...

Can't believe no one itt wants to have a beer with Gordon Songland.

What do u guys think of fiona hill?

She seems kind of hawkish but maybe this no nonsense approach will play better.

The line about being from the same part of England as George Washington’s ancestors seemed sort of bizarre.

I like her, she seems smarter than fuck and tolerates no fools. Actually I'm very impressed by everyone I've seen who works in the foreign service and the State Department. I feel bad for all of them since they obviously have build important careers doing important shitty work in other countries and now they're all getting thrown under the bus by idiots.

I wasn't expecting today's hearings to be very interesting but now I want to see how HIll responds to Nunes' gibberish bullshit. She already pointed in her opening testimony that she has no time for this Ukraine conspiracy crap.

Apparently she was already pretty prickly in response to their BS in the closed hearings.

hill seems fine, but her testimony will probably useless. she's there to be a fact witness on ukraine, to rebut one of the many republican lines of attack, that there is this big conspiracy by ukraine to interfere with elections. democrats already know that's bullshit. republicans might too, but does anyone think that "facts" or "experts" are going to suddenly change their mind?

especially once it comes out that hill once smiled to a democratic operative in an elevator, which would mean that she's in on the hoax as well, etc

Forget the work it's going to take to restore the reputation of the US with the rest of the world, consider the uphill battle it's gonna be to recruit any serious-minded people to devote their lives to that work in the future.

i don't know about that. that's a risk, for sure. but i can see a wave of talented civilians re-entering federal employment, under a new administration.

Yeah a lot of dip / foreign service folks expect to drift in and out of government in response to political tides. The next D president will get a LOT of resumes from experienced people who were pushed out in the Trump years.

especially if the incoming administration makes it a point to re-emphasize the importance of federal employees, offers pay raises, better career ladder opportunities, new hiring aimed at people coming out of college, etc.

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I think it will be easier than many might think. There are still literally tens of thousands of career employees in all of these departments.

also yes, on the question of the phone: I can hear my mother in law every single time shje calls my wife. My wife sometimes just sets the phone down, not on speaker, because she's shouting everything. This is fucking obvious.

whole binders of women

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Does this fed get any credit for NOT getting pushed out based on my incredible ability to avoid bubbles bursting by always zagging when the rest go zig? A: No I will get new bosses and they will be really in love with how smart they are and ready to shake things up

you get credit from ex-feds, which is worth about 1/1000th of regular fed credit rates

At least the next admin seems unlikely to openly embrace any old Google or Facebook imagineer who shows up to disrupt government

personally, i'm already preparing my explanation for what i was doing in the trump years by pointing out that i was gaining valuable experience in the private sector, gaining new and rising buzzwords that i can distribute throughout the federal sector

I totally listen to my mom with the phone a foot away from my ear (but not on speaker phone). To Trump: "If it's too quiet, you're too old!"

Meanwhile, this was cute:

The more things change... pic.twitter.com/wZd6CsGxNW

— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) November 20, 2019

hearing's back on.

sorry - is there an impeachment thread we can use? i feel like we keep hopping to Impeach Trump Y/N but then it inevitably ends up back here

As was easily predictable, for the time being impeachment hearings comprise about 97% of national politics right now. That's ok, because the split Congress and upcoming election year ensured that nothing whatsoever was going to be done in DC this session, except maybe passing a continuing resolution to fund the government.

What do u guys think of fiona hill?

― treeship., Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:35 PM

she a boss imo

SHUT THE FUCK UP JIM JORDAN

these two make Jordan and Nunes look like unbelievable bumbling clowns

god, he's such an asshole. he routinely starts his "questioning" with a loud, obnoxious confrontation that isn't clear, which requires the witness to ask what the fuck he's asking about. and then before they can even answer, he launches into another misleading tirade. stfu paragon of privilege

the most tooly tools that ever tooled

Holmes has much more patience than I would have

I imagine when Jordan was a wrestling coach he didn't touch his students, he bodyslammed them with his voice.

Jordan is awful

what a fucking joke he is. and he's the mercenary brought in to this committee by republicans because he's so much more talented then they are

LOL

can't they hold jordan in contempt or throw his ass out or something?

jordan's only "skill" is his ability to be a relatively handsome middle aged white man with a tone of voice and demeanor that fools even dumber people into thinking he must have some sort of coherent point. he's been coasting on that shit since day 1

fucking pathetic

" a relatively handsome middle aged white man" I think you need glasses

I have to assume that many GOP politicians have strategically spent very little time in the company of those with the ability and the wherewithal to put them in the hospital because that is almost certainly where they would otherwise be.

Rand Paul clearly needed some tips in this regard.

re: Jordan, i've never been able to get past the no-jacket thing, what an absolute cheesedick.

his ability to be a relatively handsome middle aged white man

have you ever been fucked by a middle aged white man

Tip 482: Don't ever interact with your neighbor, as you've almost certainly done something to infuriate them by dint of your existence.

jordan's only "skill" is his ability to be a relatively handsome middle aged white man with a tone of voice and demeanor that fools even dumber people into thinking he must have some sort of coherent point. he's been coasting on that shit since day 1

This describes Pence too

haha Fiona HIll saying "sorry most government leaders hate Trump"

Mike Pence has a voice and demeanor?

Did you forget to pull his string? Common mistake.

his anti-evolution speech on floor of Congress always springs to mind 1st when I think of him, check it out it's p infuriating

I would never have thought to describe Jordan as "relatively handsome," due to the fact that he never stops making his "I'm a tough guy" face.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/resizer/Bk5VUeXFQ1SnnL-NeP6QM3XH-nw=/800x533/top/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-tronc.s3.amazonaws.com/public/7N2WELF32ZFNHN2M2RQN5EMKEQ.jpg

As I added the word “relatively” to my list before, I thought, “this will help”

You're canceled, Karl.

Finally, I can join the greatest shows of the late 1980s, the only place where I belong! As my final request, I would like to know who the relatively handsome middle aged members of Congress are. In the GOP.