Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

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Yeah but how does that actually manifest? and justify to who?

anvil, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:37 (seven years ago)

It manifests as a lack of authority and an inability to get things done. Gordon Brown had that from the moment he bottled an election in 2007, but at least he had a majority to work with. It became obvious that May's authority had completely collapsed after the last GE. The new PM will have to contend with a divided and rebellious party, an even more divided and rebellious Parliament that they can't get their key legislation through, and a country that for different reasons is transparently sick of the Tories.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:45 (seven years ago)

VONC. None of these leaders in waiting has even 1% of May’s stubbornness.

gyac, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:48 (seven years ago)

I was hoping we would be at this stage a few months after Election '17. Talk about slow torture.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:53 (seven years ago)

naively I should have added.

calzino, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:55 (seven years ago)

DEM not gonna CON dis NATION: Rolling UK politics in the short-lived Cleggeron era

It'll all be over by Christmas

Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 20:57 (seven years ago)

It’s hard to see what the new PM can do. They can’t Hard Brexit (very probably) because they don’t have the numbers. GE is suicidal. 2nd ref might buy time but in-fighting over question would wreck them *and* either result probably schisms their party.

Short of some stunning long-grass constitutional-convention- type manoeuvre (which the post-May polarisation makes harder than ever to sell) I’m not sure what they *could* do to prepare for this.

stet, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 21:03 (seven years ago)

I suspect this is why the likes of Penny Mordaunt and Amber Rudd haven't joined this leadership contest - that and I can't see the Tories picking another female leader for the foreseeable.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Tuesday, 4 June 2019 21:19 (seven years ago)

Worth noting: Amber Rudd’s brother is one of the People’s Vote chairs.

suzy, Tuesday, 4 June 2019 21:28 (seven years ago)

OH MY GOD

Since the Change UK split Mike Gapes has cropped Chuka Umunna and Sarah Wollaston from his header picture and it's just the saddest thing ever!! 😭🤣😂😭 pic.twitter.com/MuMqYZ406W

— 🤝 Aman 🌹 (@Aman_Sez) June 4, 2019

love this

gyac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 07:13 (seven years ago)

chuk out

godfellaz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 07:16 (seven years ago)

You can take the Gapes out of Stalin but

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 07:18 (seven years ago)

rip Chukhov

calzino, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 07:28 (seven years ago)

Chutsky

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 07:52 (seven years ago)

Let’s remember the member for Ilford South in happier times

Joseph Stalin died on this day in 1953. But unfortunately his malign influence lives on among a small group of acolytes and admirers, including some working for the Leader of the Labour Party.

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) March 5, 2019



Remember. “Better Fewer. But Better”. Stalin. That is now the culture of Corbyn Labour. https://t.co/xrWXjnIB7j

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) March 18, 2019



I'm not an expert on Stalin. You better ask Seumas about that https://t.co/MZB8TEzBqE

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) September 1, 2016



The new kinder gentler politics. Not just a purge but also using the Orwellian Memory Hole. Stalin and Big Brother would be truly proud of these disciples of their Cult. https://t.co/6G09Q68xOW

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) July 14, 2018

gyac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 07:53 (seven years ago)

"not an expert on Stalin" but Gapes has clearly studied the master

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 07:58 (seven years ago)

Chuka would have been a good shout for an awful shower as well

gyac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 07:58 (seven years ago)

He’s always calling people Stalinists or Trots or accusing them of being Russian trolls, this quote tweet made me laugh (for what’s quoted as much as his reply)

A fan writes. 👋🏽Now Trot off. https://t.co/549SPPIZLb

— Mike Gapes (@MikeGapes) June 25, 2018

gyac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 08:00 (seven years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D612sCCXkAEk0OB.jpg:large

calzino, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 08:09 (seven years ago)

it's grim that the Brexit Party candidate in Peterborough by-election is a scummy freehold tycoon and it doesn't really matter cos he'll win anyway. They could probably field a paedo and win it comfortably.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 08:13 (seven years ago)

I'm sure Peterborough is a beautiful town full of oh god why even bother

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 08:18 (seven years ago)

It's shit I've been.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 08:36 (seven years ago)

Just sitting down with a nice cup of coffee, sipping away as brain dead people say nice things about change UK and their achievements on twitter dot com

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 08:38 (seven years ago)

Odds have changed a fair bit on the bye-election. Brexit marginal favourites before but huge favourites now (1/8!)

anvil, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 08:38 (seven years ago)

what book's that, calz?

mark s, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 09:17 (seven years ago)

I've not got the foggiest i'm afraid, got it from @NoContextGapes account.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 09:25 (seven years ago)

haha ok we are in hell anyway, don't know why i'm CITATION NEEDED-ing at the hellstream

mark s, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 09:27 (seven years ago)

lol I asked a silly question

I'm afraid telling you would be giving context, sorry.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 09:36 (seven years ago)

Just don't mention icepicks in Chuka's presence.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 09:47 (seven years ago)

I've not got the foggiest i'm afraid, got it from @NoContextGapes account.

Thank you for bringing this account to my attention. In return:

listening to alex's #LabourRoots playlist like pic.twitter.com/esP7gZdPzh

— no context alex sobel (@no_context_alex) June 3, 2019

gyac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:15 (seven years ago)

I've seen that Gapes anecdote on here before i think, it was what brought Stalin to mind.

Well, that and him Trotskying Chuka, obv.

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:16 (seven years ago)

What's on that Sobel playlist? I don't use Spotify

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:17 (seven years ago)

Does the browser link work for you?
https://open.spotify.com/user/alexsobel/playlist/1Ib7xgAIrLtrK7EhT6YITi?si=tzREI3AOTv6-jtm240A19w&nd=1

gyac, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:20 (seven years ago)

Eh it wanted me to log in, maybe when I'm at home

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:22 (seven years ago)

It has literally every song you expect to have on it.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:26 (seven years ago)

I could even imagine Tom Watson sneering at sobelurrican's playlist.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:31 (seven years ago)

Oh i can imagine

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:31 (seven years ago)

0: "Seven Nation Army"
1: "Blister In The Sun"
2: "Girls and Boys"
3: "Common People"
4: "I Predict A Riot"
5: "Beautiful Ones"
6: "Groove Is in the Heart"
7: "Rockafeller Skank"
8: "Something Good"
9: "Hey Boy Hey Girl"
10: "No Good (Start the Dance)"
11: "Bodyrock"
12: "Theme from S-Express"
13: "Everybody (Backstreet's Back) - Radio Edit"
14: "1999"
15: "Light It Up (feat. Nyla & Fuse ODG) (Remix)"
16: "Rock Your Body"
17: "Da Funk - Radio Edit"
18: "Tubthumping"
19: "Smalltown Boy"
20: "Tainted Love"
21: "Cold Rock a Party"
22: "Vivrant Thing - Club Mix"
23: "Fight The Power"
24: "Straight Outta Compton"
25: "Sabotage - Remastered 2009"
26: "Take the Power Back"
27: "Forgot About Dre"
28: "Big For Your Boots"
29: "Girls Like (feat. Zara Larsson)"
30: "Wearing My Rolex - Radio Edit"
31: "It Was A Good Day"

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:34 (seven years ago)

Hey that could be worse, "Smalltown Boy" is unfuckwithable

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:35 (seven years ago)

I mean i'd've fucked off by "Common People" and missed the rest but nice try

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:36 (seven years ago)

"Something Good" also A1

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:37 (seven years ago)

smalltown boy did brexit

mark s, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:38 (seven years ago)

i mean it's good but how places become "left behind"

mark s, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:39 (seven years ago)

ruth D has embraced boris J

||||||||, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 10:51 (seven years ago)

*shudder*

wake me up when we get to Biffy Clyro (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 11:05 (seven years ago)

I see Ruthless D stuck the knife in Rory the other day by comparing him to Clegg.

calzino, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 11:47 (seven years ago)

I can't believe liberal centrist Ruth would betray us like this.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:08 (seven years ago)

Such a principled politician, Ruth Davidson.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:11 (seven years ago)

Ruth and Anne Marie Waters giving lesbians a bad name tbh.

John Harris is a Guardian columnist (Tom D.), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:12 (seven years ago)

noted milk enthusiast tim 'tim' farron has written a piece for today's grauniad entitled Why do US evangelicals support Trump? They’re giving Christianity a bad name

remarkably, in more than 800 words of insight-free handwringing not once does the word 'abortion' appear

great job tim, we miss u

can’t stop thinking about amy adams as crash bandicoot (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 5 June 2019 12:35 (seven years ago)


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