2020 Democratic presidential primary

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but she's earned some benefit of doubt that she has mechanisms in mind to offset potential harms

Simon H., Thursday, 25 April 2019 12:45 (seven years ago)

It's supposed to take money away from people who hurt them?

Frederik B, Thursday, 25 April 2019 12:49 (seven years ago)

Why does it sound dicey?

― Frederik B, Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:34 AM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

off the top of my head, could potentially invite stat-juking and (further) institutional bias against marginalized populations?

― Simon H., Thursday, April 25, 2019 8:41 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these sort of mechanisms were put into place for some other disease states, and they are very controversial for more or less the reasons you mention

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 April 2019 12:50 (seven years ago)

I mean, the 'dicey' thing about it is that it presumes the existence of private health companies, but other than that it seems a great reform, which also could be done through the executive rather than the legislative, imo.

Frederik B, Thursday, 25 April 2019 12:51 (seven years ago)

xp meant to specify, as part of obamacare

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:08 (seven years ago)

Really hope past is prelude and Joe eats absolute shit very soon.

― Simon H., Thursday, April 25, 2019 6:21 AM

i see no reason for that not to happen but like you said i hope it does quickly

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:42 (seven years ago)

for all the good polling or whatever i don't know one person that is high on Biden running .

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:43 (seven years ago)

Re: warren’s plan: I’m skeptical of taking money away from underperforming institutions. Feels reminiscent of No Child Left Behind—let’s take schools that are failing because they don’t have adequate resources, and take away their resources.

Re: Biden entering the race: I wish he wasn’t running. Fortunately, being a front runner in a field this big doesn’t mean that you’re a likely winner—just that you have the best odds when compared to each other individual.

Worth noting: in somewhat unison, Twitter botnets started pushing the #CreepyJoe hashtag. Someone controlling a lot of bots is railing hard against him.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:53 (seven years ago)

Re Warren, that has shades of the Fitbit insurance scheme that set off the Kentucky teachers strike.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 13:54 (seven years ago)

Smart of Biden to explicitly ask Obama not to make an endorsement at this stage.

o. nate, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:14 (seven years ago)

I saw someone suggest that O is declining to endorse anyone because he secretly likes Bernie, in case anyone is keeping track of derangement levels

Simon H., Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:18 (seven years ago)

good morning!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:18 (seven years ago)

Where's The Tax Returns?!

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:24 (seven years ago)

I had a mind-boggling conversation with my mom where she said her FB friends don't like Bernie because he ran as a third party candidate in the 2016 general election. in case anyone is keeping track of derangement levels.

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:30 (seven years ago)

I saw someone suggest that O is declining to endorse anyone because he secretly likes Bernie, in case anyone is keeping track of derangement levels

― Simon H., Thursday, April 25, 2019 9:18 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark

let me be clear, I'm a democratic socialist, folks

findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:32 (seven years ago)

oh lol I thought "Biden asked O not to endorse" was a joke but I see this is what he's actually claiming

Simon H., Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:36 (seven years ago)

Why is it a bad thing for Biden to be running? he's only a threat to Beto, Mayor Pete and those guys, he's not going to survive far into this

anvil, Thursday, 25 April 2019 16:55 (seven years ago)

that's a dangerous assumption imo

Simon H., Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:01 (seven years ago)

xp alas, he'll survive far into this because many Dems still think in terms of who can win the general, and Biden seems to be wearing the costume of "that guy" who will get back those Obama voters who went for Trump

never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:05 (seven years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5AS6ZwU0AIQiXP.png

lol

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:07 (seven years ago)

Why is that E like that? It looks like fingers coming atcha.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:16 (seven years ago)

Joe's coming atcha!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:16 (seven years ago)

That E is itching to massage the N.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:17 (seven years ago)

Nevermind what the D is thinking.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:18 (seven years ago)

Biden in Wilmington asked about a message to the rest of the world: “America’s coming back like we used to be” pic.twitter.com/cNSqI1WCEh

— Jonathan Tamari (@JonathanTamari) April 25, 2019

This is literally just "clunkier MAGA."

Simon H., Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:22 (seven years ago)

all the arguments about why biden is the electable one just feel so Kerry '04

Jeff Bathos (symsymsym), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:26 (seven years ago)

Someone should create a Biden thread so I never have to look at it.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:26 (seven years ago)

Nevermind what the D is thinking.

― Yerac, Thursday, April 25, 2019 10:18 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heat lines comin' off that d

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:26 (seven years ago)

America’s going back to four guys playing together in a room

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:27 (seven years ago)

Bring America Back Around

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:27 (seven years ago)

Someone should create a Biden thread so I never have to look at it.

― Yerac, Thursday, April 25, 2019 10:26 AM (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

gbx, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:31 (seven years ago)

“America’s coming back like we used to be”

what a shitty message, clunky or not. no one wants to go back to the past except republicans (to the 1950s, preferably) and democrats who want an adult in the room but don't really follow the news or worry about policy (back to the obama years, in their case). pretty sure everyone else wants to move into the future

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:31 (seven years ago)

Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:35 (seven years ago)

“America’s coming back like we used to be”

did Yoda write this?

mourning joe (voodoo chili), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:41 (seven years ago)

I'm waiting to see how long it takes for the "Anyone But Trump" campaign to start spreading like wildfire.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:51 (seven years ago)

I had a mind-boggling conversation with my mom where she said her FB friends don't like Bernie because he ran as a third party candidate in the 2016 general election. in case anyone is keeping track of derangement levels.


lol this was pretty effective oppo messaging all along

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 25 April 2019 17:53 (seven years ago)

Biden's acting, in other words, like many Dems I know who still think of Trump as a historical aberration.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:03 (seven years ago)

Every single poll has Biden winning against Trump by at least 8 points (a few by 7, two by 6 I think, and one by 5). They're mostly Democrats, but a Fox poll is included in there (where Biden is ahead by 7 points).

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:04 (seven years ago)

Tbf, Trump the human *is* a historical aberration..

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:05 (seven years ago)

"Historical Aberration" will be the title of the Caro bio.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:06 (seven years ago)

take it to the biden thread
xxps

... and the crowd said DESELECT THEM (||||||||), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:11 (seven years ago)

also it's april. "every single poll" *jack-off motion*

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:13 (seven years ago)

It all stands to be seen. But that would be an issue if people weren't used to seeing Biden, with all his gaffes, try to run for president two times prior to this.

The man is older and isn't at his peak, let's face it.

But, yeah, it should be another interesting round of politicking.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:16 (seven years ago)

Biden's acting, in other words, like many Dems I know who still think of Trump as a historical aberration.

Most Americans think of every bad thing this country does as an aberration.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:21 (seven years ago)

that's not true. many americans think of every bad thing this country does as a good thing

these are not all of the possible side effects (Karl Malone), Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:35 (seven years ago)

xp alas, he'll survive far into this because many Dems still think in terms of who can win the general, and Biden seems to be wearing the costume of "that guy" who will get back those Obama voters who went for Trump

― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous),

I dont see it. The establishment aren't worried about stopping Trump, they're worried about stopping Bernie. And there are better choices for that than Biden. Having said that, Beto is off to a poor start and Pete has stolen his spot so idk

anvil, Thursday, 25 April 2019 18:38 (seven years ago)

i dont' know a single person excited about or even supporting Beto. Does anyone?

akm, Thursday, 25 April 2019 19:26 (seven years ago)

mrs. beto

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 25 April 2019 19:33 (seven years ago)

He's sleeping on the couch after that remark last month.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 April 2019 19:40 (seven years ago)

I saw someone suggest that O is declining to endorse anyone because he secretly likes Bernie, in case anyone is keeping track of derangement levels

― Simon H., Thursday, April 25, 2019 9:18 AM (thirteen minutes ago) Bookmark

He did campaign for Sanders in 06!:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.mic.com/articles/amp/122011/watch-young-senator-barack-obama-campaign-for-bernie-sanders-in-2006

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Thursday, 25 April 2019 20:05 (seven years ago)


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