Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

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Hmm.

they signposted the master too last year, but springing him out in utopia was quite well done. not that it wasn't totally secret, but it wasn't trailed publicly either/ they went to some effort to emphasise the 2, not 3, part finale.

-- Alan, Tuesday, 27 May 2008 07:16 (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

This took me 100% by surprise.

xp the fuck are they??

Well, Rusty has done fuck all on this series other than the first one and is then doing the last four, so I would assume one big story, even if it takes place in several places and eras.

Bearing in mind if rumours are true he has to fit into four episodes the Doctor, Donna, [MASSIVE LIST OF SPOILERING REMOVED], Bernard Cribbins and fuck knows what else.

Nothing, they're of no consequence.

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Oh yeah Jenny will probably turn up as well.

Are you just going on a massive spoiler trip now?

he has the option of getting fish face, emo zombie, welsh tea crumpet and the one who is good with computers involved rather than sending them off to tibet or whatever he did with them last year

will there be any Cardiff this series

Sorry, I was under the impression this was all mentioned upthread as I don't get my Who information from anywhere other than ILX but apparently I was wrong. I've zapped the offending names.

I'm not a spoiler reader. I just watched the trailer they aired this weekend.

Me too, and I guessed Davros a few weeks ago.

What Matt DC said makes sense, considering it's the end of the first superhypermegablock and there's a 'break' next year.

I know no one does, but I unfortunately saw it posted over at the ex southern lord doom/drone forum so I had to post it here so Dan spits out his coffee when he sees it.

so so so wrong

you didn't spit?

must resist...

THIS IS ME, HATING YOU ALL

he has the option of getting fish face, emo zombie, welsh tea crumpet and the one who is good with computers involved rather than sending them off to tibet or whatever he did with them last year

Someone didn't finish watching Torchwood S2 this year!

this is true, I should get the last few episodes

Let's see if this works:

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Stored here for future use.

and flashback to a year ago:

Doctor who has lost his ways or they seriously need new scriptwriters (Contains Speculation, Spoilers, Space Crabs)

SPACE CRABS!

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lol he has a recorder like number 2

From Neil Gaiman's blog:

I see from the internets that Rich Johnston's carefully worded "Well, Neil and Steven Moffat had dinner, and Neil hasn't said no, but there's many slip between cup and lip..." thingummy on his rumour site became "It's an open secret that..." when it was reported on Aint It Cool News and that's now transmuted into "OMG NEIL IS WRITING DOCTOR WHO BEST NEWS EVER" on the next round of news sites, and most of my mail today (except for the one from the young man who wants to know how to get out of doing military service, which just left me flashing on the last part of Blackadder Goes Forth) is asking why I haven't told everyone all about it...

Look, if it ever gets to the point where I know that I'm actually, definitely, for certain, writing an episode of Doctor Who, I'll post it here. In big red letters. Or green. You'll know when it happens, trust me. I may even get Maddy to write the entry for me, and include photographs of cats doing amusing things in it. It'll be a proper blog post. Promise.

Good Lord in Heaven:

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Davros has never been tastier.

Stop making shit edible daleks! Would not eat davros. Looks stodgy.

vintage cheddar

Wonderful. So much going on in this story.

Liked bits of it, hated bits of it.

Moffat's dislike of online fandom comes to a head in the script here, I think.

Moffat's dislike of online fandom comes to a head in the script here, I think.

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the whole "no spoilers" thing.

He had a complete rant at the end of last year about how anyone who used a computer to dicscuss Who was socially inferior and deserved to be bullied at school - he and Rusty have a pet name for online Who fans I can't remember at the moment - and he's taken to trolling online Who communities and slagging them off, particularly Spoiler forums.

Also, I think you'll find the two protagonists in a certain novel by Audrey Niffenegger meet in a library before they meet for the first time. HINT or homage or RIP-OFF? YOU DECIDE.

Brilliant, lots of nods to 2001 (again), Terry Pratchett, Phillip Pullman and Douglas Adams. Good fear factor, that would have had me behind the sofa when I was younger and there haven't been many nuWhos like that.

he's taken to trolling online Who communities and slagging them off, particularly Spoiler forums.

Amusing in the abstract, but this can present problems, especially when creative types feel the need to piss off fans with deliberately arbitrary plot choices or character deaths.

I really liked this episode. Music was great, the Sally Sparrow thing of someone with a history of the doctor encountering him earlier in his timeline, the planet-sized library with the art deco/Bioshock signage, etc. This is what I signed up for.

It reminded me of some of the more off-the-wall old Who stories, like Kinda or Ghost Light.

"a pet name for online Who fans"

mingmongs?

Astonishing, sorry.

Moffat's dislike of online fandom comes to a head in the script here, I think.

Rather amusing because Moffat was a semi-regular on alt.comedy.british when Coupling was airing. Guess the Dr. Who fans are another kettle of fish.

I've been listening to a lot of the 8th Doctor audio dramas lately, which are mostly really good. Except for the ones set in America, which have accents just as bad as the cross-atlantic productions that flip things around, shall we say.

This feller has a way of scaring kids. Brilliant. Cannot wait to see where it's going.

Didn't read the 'no spoilers' bit as Moffatt trolling the fans but if he is, then A++ trolling.

But really, who gives a shit? That episode was fucking brilliant, sorry. If I was a 10 year old kid that would have shitted me up more than anything.

So that's Moffatt's future companion we've glimpsed there, perhaps? I quite liked her. Donna is not long for this world I think :/

She was thingy from ER! I only just realised thing, I spent the whole episode thinking she was thingy from Eastenders.

realised this

This feller has a way of scaring kids and then ratcheting it up to the point of being borderline cruel. He did it with the montage of statues in Blink. He did it again here. Shadows that eat you on alien planets thousands of years in the future = quite scary. Mild presence of shadows that eat you, in dust particles in streams of light, on Earth now, that very occasionally cause people to disappear without trace = I want my mummy.

Also a hint that the next companion might come from the future rather than a present day Earth.

Framing the whole thing through the eyes and mind of a child was a great device as well. Surprised how rarely actual kids have featured in nu-Who but when they have it's been brilliant each time.

What would be even more awesome would be if the girl's doctor was actually a future incarnation of the Doctor, closing the circle.

"Framing the whole thing through the eyes and mind of a child was a great device as well." This is surely misdirection? I liked the 'reveal' when the doctor is torturing the security camera device with his screw driver.

Yeah it is midirection but we don't know why the security system is connected to the mind of a child on present day Earth. It's a bit Girl in the Fireplace all that.

that's Moffatt's future companion we've glimpsed there, perhaps?

I don't see any reason why she'd have to be a) a future companion b) even *shown* in the next season of Dr Who . The impression I got from the 'comparing diaries' thing was that the two of them live their own lives, on their own timelines, and every so often meet up to spend some time together: she isn't an adjunct to him, she isn't constantly by his side, she doesn't need him to take-her-away-from-her-boring-life.

In fact if she's explicitly supposed to be 'in a relationship' with the doctor it would be really awkward to have her as a companion.

don't know why the security system is connected to the mind of a child on present day Earth

I was kind of assuming that it's not i.e. that the 'girl' is a simulation running in the 'mind' of the security device. So when Dr Moon says 'the dreams are real, and the reality is the dream' he is being correct. Either the security system has gone 'mad' over the last 100 years or it is in some kind of protection shut-down mode.