brexit negging when yr mandate is is trash: or further chronicles of a garbage-fire

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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2017/oct/19/ministers-plan-fines-for-universities-which-fail-to-uphold-free-speech

Genuinely bizarre. The majority of events in question are held by student unions, rather than the universities themselves, so i have no idea how they're meant to mandate speakers the SU doesn't want to invite are included.

Wag1 Shree Rajneesh (ShariVari), Thursday, 19 October 2017 08:47 (eight years ago)

Wouldn't Germaine Greer talking to a tiny audience of Young Conservatives in a empty hall be such an amazing victory for freedom of speech.

calzino, Thursday, 19 October 2017 08:59 (eight years ago)

Johnson said that free speech was one of the foundations on which the UK’s higher education tradition was built.

this is an out and out ahistorical lie

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 October 2017 09:15 (eight years ago)

presumably this is to bring universities in line with the UK's constitutional right to freedom of speech tho

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 October 2017 09:16 (eight years ago)

So they've given up on trying to win the youth vote already then?

Matt DC, Thursday, 19 October 2017 10:13 (eight years ago)

Premium

standard.co.uk/news/politics/tory-mp-tim-loughton-spends-an-hour-in-the-bath-every-morning-just-thinking-about-things-a3661406.html

nashwan, Thursday, 19 October 2017 10:23 (eight years ago)

“It's like going to the gym for the mind."

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 October 2017 10:52 (eight years ago)

lonely guy just thinking baout things in the bath

He made the remarks while speaking at a conference about how meditation and greater self-awareness can improve the way politicians operate.

i think u might have fallen at the first hurdle there pal

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 October 2017 11:08 (eight years ago)

Next time you’re making a significant purchase, a house perhaps, start by saying “I will not accept no deal” and see how the negotiations go

— James Cleverly (@JamesCleverly) October 19, 2017

Cleverly, MP for BrainGenious

André Ryu (Neil S), Thursday, 19 October 2017 11:23 (eight years ago)

next time you're making a purchase, a house perhaps, start by throwing in a confusing double-negative and see how quickly the other party starts crying

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 October 2017 11:28 (eight years ago)

i like how that implies another Europe in another neighbourhood we could do a deal with

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:17 (eight years ago)

ha, yeah

it's also another pointless, confusing extension of the metaphor of the economy as a household, which is total bullshit

midas / medusa cage match (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 October 2017 12:30 (eight years ago)

next time you max out your credit card, try going to the IMF for a loan

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:49 (eight years ago)

to locate that other europe, let's all go to GOR!!

mark s, Thursday, 19 October 2017 15:59 (eight years ago)

do i want to listen to nothing but Manowar for the rest of my life i ask myself?

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 October 2017 16:05 (eight years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMh7xyhW4AEG8Eo.jpg

calzino, Friday, 20 October 2017 01:01 (eight years ago)

everyone's piling on clive lewis for saying 'on your knees bitch!' to a man having to kneel down at some kind of labour show thing

impolitic and overly exuberant but here is a list of who can get fucked:

guido fawkes
jess phillips
the entire internet

thanks

imago, Friday, 20 October 2017 13:53 (eight years ago)

It was pretty obvious that his mouth was going to get him into trouble sooner or later. His pre-Parliament Twitter feed reads like an 19-year old with two appearances for West Ham.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 October 2017 13:55 (eight years ago)

I was on stage for this. It was to a guy who had come on stage to participate in the game show after Ash told him to bend down https://t.co/yi98eypBVK

— Abi Wilkinson 🌷 (@AbiWilks) October 20, 2017

xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 October 2017 14:11 (eight years ago)

Not as bad as crowing about telling Diane Abbott to fuck off, obvs.

kim jong deal (suzy), Friday, 20 October 2017 14:34 (eight years ago)

Yeah the pearl-clutching is disingenuous bullshit as well.

Matt DC, Friday, 20 October 2017 14:39 (eight years ago)

Clive Lewis did a weird yet typical interruption to a question put to Caroline Flint a few weeks back on Sunday Politics and then immediately repeatedly apologised as he realised the textbook mansplain/hijack. He's definitely got speak-before-think issues despite good intentions.

nashwan, Friday, 20 October 2017 14:50 (eight years ago)

Out in the very sensitive world of the construction industry, anybody who has done an apprenticeship will be very familiar with being referred to as a "bitch" or a "boy". For at least a few years, where you were deemed only worthy to sweep up rubble and crawl about confined spaces full of asbestos and itchy black lime dust. What a life!

I think Lewis is a bit of dick tbh. But definitely not a totally bad person in the scheme of things.

calzino, Friday, 20 October 2017 23:30 (eight years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/oct/22/backbench-tories-universal-credit-climbdown-theresa-may

The government is edging closer to a major U-turn on the universal credit benefits system, it has been claimed, as Conservative backbench critics of the policy said that they had been assured the government was listening to their concerns.

It sounds like some compromise might be occurring. The whole monstrosity needs major surgery and is punitive + repulsive obv, but even if they cut a couple of weeks off the waiting time, then that is a small victory at least.

calzino, Sunday, 22 October 2017 12:44 (eight years ago)

One hopes the pressure of that non-binding commons vote is bearing fruit.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 October 2017 15:39 (eight years ago)

The Universal Credit rollout shitfest is the genie that Osborne was pressured to put back in the bottle, but then even after that lame u-turn (i think in 2015) he publically admitted was inevitable anyway, after a countrywide rollout at a later date. Hitting the disabled is fair game - cos there is a popular mandate for killing disableds etc, but not working people and specifically in this case - the lower paid end of the self-employed spectrum. Not that it makes any discernible difference to people in areas where it had already been rolled out. But the extra amounts of people in working poverty will definitely make a mockery of the Tory lowlife who have drank the Kool-Aid, and are still claiming that it "makes work pay". It is the working tax-credit cuts sewn into it by Osborne that completely wreck that equation.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 00:05 (eight years ago)

a scandal involving a Labour MP being outed as having made problematic posts to Drowned in Sound in the mid 2000s - this is making me feel old

soref, Monday, 23 October 2017 11:44 (eight years ago)

Loooool hang on what

imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 11:57 (eight years ago)

Guy Fawkes is on a mission

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 12:03 (eight years ago)

They do it on purpose etc.

How long before we have German Fish & Chips? pic.twitter.com/8OmvAytgJQ

— Greg Hands (@GregHands) October 23, 2017

nashwan, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:06 (eight years ago)

tbf I would be surprised if some chinless wonder knew anything about the provenance of the mighty Doner

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 12:11 (eight years ago)

Oh it's a Guido 'scoop'. Aiming at all the young Corbynites. When he gets beaten to a pulp it won't be too soon

imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:14 (eight years ago)

> German Fish & Chips?

a german version of that dish famously introduced to britain by the jewish settlers?

koogs, Monday, 23 October 2017 12:14 (eight years ago)

and commonly prepared and sold by Greek Cypriots

mahb, Monday, 23 October 2017 13:23 (eight years ago)

"Germany without potatoes is as unimaginable as a repetitively re-offending suicide bomber" - Jonathan Meades, bon vivant + food expert.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 13:37 (eight years ago)

Mind the gap, beyond the sea.
Let Brussels drink your cup of tea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36gK-6kkXiI

saer, Monday, 23 October 2017 13:54 (eight years ago)

Guido Fawkes/Seaman Staines exclusive: key Momentum organiser used to own one of those pens with a lady on the end and if you turn it upside down, her dress falls off

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 23 October 2017 13:57 (eight years ago)

xpost holy shit

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 October 2017 14:01 (eight years ago)

"Rock Rebel"

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 14:10 (eight years ago)

hmm, there's more dirt on o'mara than first appeared

still, guido is a shit. but where's the left-wing guido, lol

imago, Monday, 23 October 2017 14:59 (eight years ago)

it's called The Canary and it's godawful

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:04 (eight years ago)

Some people are pleading frivolous bantz on O'Mara's behalf and it's a Guido job etc, but it is indefensible stuff and shows under the nice-guy act lurks a deeply unpleasant dickhead imo. So a typical politician after all.

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:16 (eight years ago)

I mean specifically in the Shittersphere, although probably the ones defending him are the same jerkoffs that rt every bastard Canary article, Orwell meme etc...

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:19 (eight years ago)

and commonly prepared and sold by Greek Cypriots

... in London, Italians everywhere else?

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:45 (eight years ago)

"Writing on Drowned in Sound website in November 2004, he posted:"

I din't realise the Jared O'Mara outrage was from when he was a teenager ffs!

calzino, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:47 (eight years ago)

His behaviour as a teenager is almost as reprenhensible as a 53 year old Foreign Secretary.

Terry Micawber (Tom D.), Monday, 23 October 2017 15:50 (eight years ago)

he was born in 1981 so not quite a teenager by 2004, but yeah.

not sure how old he was when posting on Morrissey Solo to angrily reject the idea that Morrissey might be homosexual

soref, Monday, 23 October 2017 15:52 (eight years ago)

35

pulled pork state of mind (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 October 2017 16:29 (eight years ago)

I don't get the greg hands controversy (some ratio on that tweet tho). can someone pls ELI5

||||||||, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:00 (eight years ago)

they are all bad and so are we

mark s, Monday, 23 October 2017 17:04 (eight years ago)


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