The Coddling Of The American Mind (Trigger Warning Article In The Atlantic...)

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I mean, to some extent there is truth to the view that what we define as Western culture has historically been built on violence towards POC. Scholars have also preserved, celebrated, and promoted texts like these as the foundations of Western culture. So, if you regard Western culture as fundamentally racist and violent, there is a case to be made (not that I would necessarily be the one to make it).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 12:45 (eight years ago)

Obv you could protest science classes on similar grounds.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 12:49 (eight years ago)

But in the interim, throughout last year, a group of 12 to 15 students has occupied the class -- surrounding the lecturing professor in silent protest -- for each session.

I'd be pissed if I was paying Reed's insane tuition for a class where a protest like that was being allowed to go on.

jmm, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 13:19 (eight years ago)

I'm still figuring out liberal arts colleges tbh but... I think that maybe this sort of thing is part of the package deal that people are paying for...?

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 13:34 (eight years ago)

(Thankfully, no one has done this in my classes yet.)

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 13:39 (eight years ago)

i walk around when i teach so that would not work for me

j., Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:31 (eight years ago)

then be sure not to teach anything oppressive

President Keyes, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:46 (eight years ago)

j. when faced with silent protesters

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:49 (eight years ago)

lol no my new gig is at a christian school

j., Tuesday, 12 September 2017 14:50 (eight years ago)

I regard human culture as fundamentally racist and violent, but that doesn't make me feel qualified to present a supplemental syllabus to people teaching a year-long 110-level course. That was the part of the article where I couldn't stop the reflexive eye roll. I think there are better ways to make the point, but whatever works for you, fellow kids.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:26 (eight years ago)

It'd be good to hear a little more detail on the substance of the objections. The syllabus looks really crusty, boring and never-been-revised to my eyes; maybe the lectures are a really dynamic operation that deconstructs the operation of encountering the rest of the world through the eyes of Greeks like Herodotus (as delightful as he obviously is). Not putting words in the protestors' mouths but I could imagine that that's where a critique of epistemic violence might start, around the question of who gets to tell whose stories and who we accept as great and important (etc etc).

I mean the whole premise of these "Western Civ" type required courses for first-years is sort of what's at stake, right? One could argue convincingly that a course trying to introduce you to civilization, broadly speaking, might just as easily begin with six weeks in China or India or etc. The expansion of this course to "the Mediterranean" (which seems to just involve week after week of reading Gilgamesh?) might be a really awesome move that opens up tons of space in the lectures and discussions to challenge that implicitly Hegelian world-historical framework. Or it might just be lazy programming that someone got out of a high school textbook twenty years ago. (We had to read chunks of Gilgamesh in 11th grade but I assure you that the syllabus and content were overwhelmingly Eurocentric in all the classic ways.) Again, I have no idea, and I don't know the (very few) secondary texts on that syllabus - maybe they also do really important work, but we don't know because we're not in the classroom.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 12 September 2017 16:46 (eight years ago)

I completely agree, if it wasn't clear, Tombot. This does seem like a bizarre way to raise questions about the curriculum of a bog-standard intro humanities course. I did include more music by women and non-white composers and more recent music in this semester's music since 1945 course; this was motivated in part by student demand but they expressed that demand by, um, writing it on the course evaluations that they get to fill out in every class every semester.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 21:41 (eight years ago)

i think that two/three constraints of this type of course - as humanities, not really scientific, gotta include more or less the purviews of academic disciplines in english, history, philosophy, art - and gotta do a big dose of greco-possibly-romanism (rome is in the second semester) - pretty much makes most of their choices for them. the first semester syllabus seems like it does about as well as you could do within that framework. more on greek predecessors, some time on non-greek rivals, shared frame for the introduction of biblical bridging material, smattering of contemporary questioning-the-tradition scholarship.

j., Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:35 (eight years ago)

xxp reminds me that i've been meaning to look more closely at http://www.sunypress.edu/p-5655-africa-asia-and-the-history-of-.aspx this book having heard a few things about it and skimmed through it. seems a fine and important addition to any generic western civ class that wants to engage in a bit of autocritique

lazy rascals, spending their substance, and more, in riotous living (Merdeyeux), Tuesday, 12 September 2017 22:52 (eight years ago)

http://www.theolympian.com/news/local/article173710596.html

The Evergreen State College professor at the center of campus protests this spring will receive $500,000 in a settlement that was announced Friday.

Bret Weinstein and his wife, Heather Heying, resigned from their faculty positions effective Friday. The couple filed a $3.85 million tort claim in July alleging the college failed to “protect its employees from repeated provocative and corrosive verbal and written hostility based on race, as well as threats of physical violence,” according to the claim.

Weinstein had criticized changes to the school’s annual Day of Absence after white students who chose to participate were asked to go off campus to talk about race issues. He called the event “an act of oppression,” according to emails obtained by The Olympian. Weinstein later appeared on Fox News and wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal.

The incident led to protests and threats over allegations of racism and intolerance, pulling Evergreen into a national debate over free speech on college campuses. The campus was closed for three days in June and graduation was moved to Cheney Stadium in Tacoma.

j., Tuesday, 19 September 2017 02:15 (eight years ago)

New (embargo on remarks lifted): Sessions says the DOJ will file a statement of interest in a campus free speech case this week

— Betsy Woodruff (@woodruffbets) September 26, 2017

j., Tuesday, 26 September 2017 16:24 (eight years ago)

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/it-takes-a-nation-of-snowflakes/541050/

serwer serwering

j., Tuesday, 26 September 2017 17:16 (eight years ago)

that was excellent

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 September 2017 17:36 (eight years ago)

good fodder for rolling explaining conservatism

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 26 September 2017 19:17 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2017/11/the-surprising-revolt-at-reed/544682/

If Facebook is no place to debate Hum 110, what about the printed page? Not so much: During the entire 2016-17 school year, not a single op-ed or even a quote critical of RAR’s methods—let alone goals—was published in the student newspaper, according to a review of archived issues. The only thing that comes close? A clarification regarding a school dance:

[ RAR] requested that students, specifically white students, give a suggested amount of five dollars to RAR if they planned on consuming black and brown culture at the ball. This money, explicitly regarded as reparations, was collected at the door by student activists…. [ the ball organizer responded], “we are in support of Reedies Against Racism but want to make it clear that their event is unaffiliated with ours.”

lol

j., Friday, 3 November 2017 04:42 (eight years ago)

On the one hand I'm sick of the tone of coverage like this but on the other hand you couldn't pay me enough money to be 19 again

.oO (silby), Friday, 3 November 2017 04:58 (eight years ago)

it's a pretty small school iirc

sarahell, Friday, 3 November 2017 06:10 (eight years ago)

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/thomas-hart-benton-mural-indiana-1133765

A Thomas Hart Benton painting is at the heart of a controversy at Indiana University, where a student petition is calling for a mural depicting hooded members of the Ku Klux Klan to be removed from a classroom. In response, the school has stopped holding classes in the room, the largest lecture hall on campus.

Nearly 1,600 signatories are asking the school to take down or cover the offending panel from A Social History of Indiana (1933), also known as the Indiana murals. But others are speaking up in support of the artwork, contending that Benton was looking to draw attention to the evils of the Klan.

marcos, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:50 (eight years ago)

https://news.artnet.com/app/news-upload/2017/10/15667217698_fd4fc33e3f_b.jpg

marcos, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:51 (eight years ago)

i do wish these kids were .... smarter

marcos, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:51 (eight years ago)

i think it's clear that coddling isn't the issue. these kids aren't weak snowflakes. they feel emboldened and are expressing what they see is their political power to dictate terms to their institutions and professors.

Mordy, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:54 (eight years ago)

What they hell kinda school has paintings in classrooms. We don’t even have windows!

ryan, Friday, 3 November 2017 16:56 (eight years ago)

The Reed stuff is kind of interesting to me since it really points to the dilemma of the humanities once the idea of a common cultural context or historical frame of reference is lost. If you don’t buy, or are excluded from, the cultural traditions of “the West,” then how do you justify the teaching of a broad humanities style class of any sort?

Like, I’d be curious to see what kind of syllabus the RAR contingent would approve. The ultimate problem, I think, behind all this is that the formation of any kind of solidarity will by necessity create exclusions, blind spots, etc. In my opinion you can and should try hard to be “inclusive” but this is by definition impossible so long as you are working from an approved (and growing) list of cultural/racial identities. Simply redressing exclusions is not and will never end this dilemma—someone always gets left out. And since the driving thrust of much critical theory is to simply occupy this excluded space as a fortified position from which to do criticism, it’s not really something many humanities professors are equipped to deal with, given their current set of assumptions and methodologies. We just go on observing the observers, and being observed in turn.

ryan, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:05 (eight years ago)

I’d also add that this excluded position of observation is routinely imbued with moral authority as well.

ryan, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:07 (eight years ago)

relevant: http://ringmar.net/index.php/2017/10/29/fascists-and-gender-at-lund-university/

Mordy, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:09 (eight years ago)

Put more clearly, I don’t think it’s totally unfair to say that the RAR students have taken many of the implicit and explicit assumptions of critical theory to their logical conclusions. Which gives the lie to the idea that critical theory was ever resisting or “criticizing” a socially entropic modernity—it was just merely extending it.

xpost

ryan, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:11 (eight years ago)

at this stage it seems like things are only going to get worse in this regard (abolishing thanksgiving, or taking down statues of the founding fathers seem like obvious next steps) so you've gotta hope that either college students grow out of the bonfire of the vanities mindset after they graduate, or that these are a small amount of activists making a lot of noise w/ little real impact on the country. otherwise we're looking at - imo - escalating claims of exclusion/white supremacism/patriarchy and subsequent reactionary backlashes. neither of those groups (totalitarian leftists or right-wingers) are particularly attractive to me.

Mordy, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:13 (eight years ago)

Reactionaries trawl the internet looking for things to backlash against. I don't think it matters much. Starbucks was targeted for not having a bleeding christ on its coffee cups.

IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:15 (eight years ago)

this creates more reactionaries. we didn't elect trump twenty years ago, we did it last year.

Mordy, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:16 (eight years ago)

in the future colleges will be place kids go to build statues of bad people and then bang on them with hammers

President Keyes, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:16 (eight years ago)

start broadcasting how respecting george washington and thomas jefferson is supporting white supremacism i promise you'll generate more reaction.

Mordy, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:16 (eight years ago)

i think it's clear that coddling isn't the issue. these kids aren't weak snowflakes. they feel emboldened and are expressing what they see is their political power to dictate terms to their institutions and professors.

― Mordy, Friday, November 3, 2017 12:54 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea i agree

marcos, Friday, 3 November 2017 17:21 (eight years ago)

I don't really know what to make of any side of this (except that Khan should have never faced potential disciplinary action over a FB post) but I feel like it might relate to Mordy's point: https://globalnews.ca/news/3833413/dalhousie-student-slams-anti-canadian-motion/

Afaict, it seems to be pretty much taken as a given with many on the Canadian activist left at this point that any celebration of Canada or its founders is more or less a celebration of genocide.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:42 (eight years ago)

I am legitimately offended by the comment at the beginning of that article about Reed College where a student claims that a saxophone player painted gold is performing blackface.

OTOH it's Reed so odds are all of these students are so high that they don't know what they're saying.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:56 (eight years ago)

I wondered if that was the case, yeah.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 3 November 2017 17:58 (eight years ago)

My main memory of my one visit to Reed is some engineering students showing off the bong they made out of a shop-vac.

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:03 (eight years ago)

lol that is perfect

sleeve, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:03 (eight years ago)

xpost
trivializing the tools of the domestic worker
nagl

President Keyes, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:16 (eight years ago)

it was the 90s; it was trivialize the tools of the domestic worker or go home

the Hannah Montana of the Korean War (DJP), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:20 (eight years ago)

at this stage it seems like things are only going to get worse in this regard (abolishing thanksgiving, or taking down statues of the founding fathers seem like obvious next steps)

I doubt it -- I mean, I don't doubt there will be a handful of examples of this (there are already!) but I doubt it will be, as people say, "a thing"

or that these are a small amount of activists making a lot of noise w/ little real impact on the country.

This is what I think, my evidence being that I work on an extremely liberal college campus where all of this stuff is completely invisible/irrelevant to 95% of our students. You'll notice that the same incidents (Charles Murray at Middlebury, the biology guy at Evergreen, and now lately this stuff at Reed) are trotted out again and again and again and it's not because those are the most important and representative college campuses that are fair stand-ins for higher ed as a whole (ha!) it's because there are just not that many examples but scoldy op-eds must be written. If you want to know what lefty activists on campus are spending their time doing, by and large it's registering people to vote, making sure college students have required ID in states that have recently imposed requirements, trying to get campuses to divest from oil/gun/tobacco companies, etc., not putting a KKK hood on the statue of Lincoln on the quad or trying to get the Shakespeare class canceled.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 3 November 2017 18:23 (eight years ago)

student who said 'emotional theater' otm

j., Friday, 3 November 2017 18:27 (eight years ago)

lol "taking down statues of the founding fathers" I heaven forfend, what a nightmarish picture you paint of our dystopian future

Doctor Casino, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:37 (eight years ago)

Been wondering why the masochistic Midwich Cuckoos fantasy is so popular. I know people from different viewpoints want to believe the worst, but why?

I say this as someone who often suspects people are downplaying liberal/left problems.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:39 (eight years ago)

i think conservatives have observed that fads in the academy often become policy a few decades (or less) down the line - or at least they've observed this with social issues, economic ones a little trickier?

Mordy, Friday, 3 November 2017 18:51 (eight years ago)


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