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taxes are theft; therefore, democrats are criminals

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 02:58 (one year ago) Permalink

selfishness is too a virtue

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 02:59 (one year ago) Permalink

Making people's lives better is not a function of the state. The state's job is to get out of the way so the market can make people's lives better*.

*or not

scattered, smothered, covered, diced and chunked (WilliamC), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:00 (one year ago) Permalink

wasn't it Jeremy Clarkson that said something once like "governments should build park benches and leave us alone"

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:03 (one year ago) Permalink

if your parents don't have enough money, nothing you do matters

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:11 (one year ago) Permalink

job security is a necessary evil to coerce the talented

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:29 (one year ago) Permalink

if you weren't forced to pay taxes, you could just afford things on your own like insurance and private police protection

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:31 (one year ago) Permalink

in my very amateurish opinion modern conservativism has two major planks:

1) denial of any link between capitalism and the undermining of traditional values.
2) strict and explicit separation of society into categories of, let's say, "elect" and "damned" (those deserving of privilege, security, etc. and those undeserving...white supremacy is obviously a huge part of this)

ryan, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:40 (one year ago) Permalink

All conservatism is the rationalization and preservation of privilege. The hatefulness and nastiness that seems to travel with it has always been there, but obviously people have had different expectations throughout history about what's uncouth and which are the parts you aren't supposed to say out loud.

Scalzi's essay is a tad goofy but I liked his nerdy explanation of privilege: "In the role playing game known as The Real World, “Straight White Male” is the lowest difficulty setting there is."

Any policies that increase egalitarianism in Western societies, by necessity, can be seen as mildly increasing the difficulty setting for Straight White Male. If you're not doing so great at The Real World, and you were already on the lowest difficulty setting, then something's clearly very wrong.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:42 (one year ago) Permalink

life is a golf course. climate change is a chinese hoax

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:46 (one year ago) Permalink

life is a golf ball, I wanna drive it all night long

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:48 (one year ago) Permalink

russian=socialists are the worst ever evil in the world, except when republican president donald trump houses and praises them. government is the problem, as well

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:54 (one year ago) Permalink

states' rights except when not

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:55 (one year ago) Permalink

I'd love to see Scalzi recite his essay to the corpse of a drug overdosed white person whose lost all realistic hope for his/her life. Americans don't know each other anymore.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 03:56 (one year ago) Permalink

that is not in his individual self-interest. individual self-interest is all that matters

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:02 (one year ago) Permalink

regulation gets in the way of businesses succeeding and makes capitalism not work. we shouldn't regulate wrongdoing out of existence - the market will react and put evildoing companies out of business. it's ok if 371 people die due to eating salmonella infected peanuts because AFTER those people die, people will boycott the brand!

We could have stopped those people from dying but that would have hurt Planters' sales and really when it boils down to it, aren't 371 lives worth it?

also the Holocaust never happened.

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:04 (one year ago) Permalink

People want the government to be run like a business, so that after a few years they can be surprised by a FOR LEASE sign on City Hall, and no idea what it might turn into next.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Maybe it will be a new coffee place, or a hair salon!

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:17 (one year ago) Permalink

All white grievance is legitimate, especially hopelessness in the face of poverty

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:20 (one year ago) Permalink

except for the four gospels, the judeo-christian bible is the literal word of god, bro

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:24 (one year ago) Permalink

All white grievance is legitimate, especially hopelessness in the face of poverty

― El Tomboto, Tuesday, March 7, 2017 4:20 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ignoring suffering because of classism and identity politics is part of why we're here. People like you have blood on your hands... POC die because of attitudes like yours, which, on the surface, tries to celebrate them. But it's not out of concern for the lives of POC, but for your own narcissism and privilege, which you then flip on others less fortunate than yourself.

Liberalism and conservatism is the same side of the same coin at this point. Is it any wonder why we are where we are?

larry appleton, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:36 (one year ago) Permalink

what would we do without you, larry

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:37 (one year ago) Permalink

have you heard of this guy, jim goad? I think his books would grab you

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:38 (one year ago) Permalink

Well, there was a reason I worked with an Obama appointee, you low-level bureaucratic waste. My ideas make sense and work, they're just not in vogue right now, because of snot wipes like you who want to sip glasses of wine while people suffer and die.

larry appleton, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:39 (one year ago) Permalink

The funniest part of your schtick is that everything I've posted to this thread is either me actually linking to and quoting John Scalzi and the rest is ripped off from Ta-Nehisi Coates - I haven't expressed a single original opinion worth lashing out at. But you man, you got the solutions that make sense, and work!

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:42 (one year ago) Permalink

beef is when I see you
guaranteed to be in ICU

but you won't have healthcare

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:42 (one year ago) Permalink

All conservatism is the rationalization and preservation of privilege.

fucking otm. all hoarding and no empathy. fuck you, got mine. what's that, an oppressed category of people wants equal treatment? get the fuck off my lawn. if you need quotas, that just means you females/non-whites/whatever are simply terrible at what you do. let the free market do its job because the free market is faultless*.

* at preserving old-timey privilege

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:45 (one year ago) Permalink

this is the angriest i've ever been this early in a thread

Autumn Almanac, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:46 (one year ago) Permalink

anger is an energy. it's cool to frack oklahoma into earthquake hell, because profit

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:52 (one year ago) Permalink

the united states is a republic, not a democracy

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 05:10 (one year ago) Permalink

That one I've honestly never been able to figure out. It's a non sequitur beyond the rest

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 05:13 (one year ago) Permalink

Democrats fancy themselves civil rights pioneers but it was REPUBLICANS who freed the slaves we are just like that 19th century party

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 05:18 (one year ago) Permalink

as Martin Luther King famously said, people should be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character

example (crüt), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 05:19 (one year ago) Permalink

and MLK was a Republican after all!

waht, I am true black metal worrior (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 05:21 (one year ago) Permalink

My ideas make sense and work, they're just not in vogue right now, because of snot wipes like you who want to sip glasses of wine while people suffer and die.

― larry appleton, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 04:39 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Moonlight swine leap whiff off this one

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 08:25 (one year ago) Permalink

which ideology is against water fluoridation now?

sarahell, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 08:39 (one year ago) Permalink

fluoridation is how the govmint gives you gay mind control cancer, keep up

Sacked Italian Greyhound (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 08:53 (one year ago) Permalink

My ideas make sense and work, they're just not in vogue right now, because of snot wipes like you who want to sip glasses of wine while people suffer and die.

posts that effortlessly etc

Thank you for your service, wasteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 09:43 (one year ago) Permalink

maybe start a thread for recommending a good wine to accompany people suffering and dying

barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 09:45 (one year ago) Permalink

Egoism is real, altruism is not. Hence, running a state by egoists’ rules - “like a business,” if you will - is the only sensible option. If the state then falls apart, it’s not because a democracy is inherently altruistic, but because the state is broken and needs to be abolished.

Wes Brodicus, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 10:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Right, the only motivating factor you can count on is that everyone wants to get rich. EVERYONE. We all like money right guys? Also, everyone cheats, come on.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 10:55 (one year ago) Permalink

who among us would not rather have the opportunity, however small, to live beyond the dreams of Croesus rather than to bumble along with our needs generally satisfied but no prospect of rubbing anybody else's nose in it?

barry snappleton (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:20 (one year ago) Permalink

tucking your shirt into your jeans is a timeless look

ogmor, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:29 (one year ago) Permalink

brb I'm off to find a conservative board with a thread explaining liberals and the staggering insights therein

The Perks of Being a Wall St R (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:46 (one year ago) Permalink

Bow-ties are a legitimate fashion choice

Thank you for your service, wasteman (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 11:47 (one year ago) Permalink

MANY YEARS AGO PRINCE DARKNESS "GANNON" STOLE ONE OF THE TRIFORCE WITH POWER.

increasingly bonkers (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:05 (one year ago) Permalink

That does explain a lot. And the triforce of wisdom being in eight pieces is why the left is so hopeless.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:15 (one year ago) Permalink

lol @ larry appleton / Tombot guvmint dill-weed beef

have you guys ever considered that conservatism has ideological appeal to its adherents, rather than something dismissive like "the rationalization and preservation of privilege" (what about the millions of non-privileged people who are conservatives? don't say false consciousness!) or "individual self-interest is all that matters"?

flopson, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:38 (one year ago) Permalink

I considered, then dismissed it.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:43 (one year ago) Permalink

Most problems can be pretty easily explained through racism and false consciousness.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 7 March 2017 13:45 (one year ago) Permalink

for instance ~

Triple the rent in public housing: no one can afford it, so no one applies. Then you can say no one wants low income housing and shut the program down. Sell the properties for pennies on the dollar to well connected real estate people who donate to politicians. Former residents now homeless. Need more cops, and cop overtime to deal with HORDES of homeless people. Pass laws to put homeless people in private prisons. Homeless people no longer homeless. People who run private prisons donate to politicians. New property owners, private prison owners, and politicians make out like bandits. Everyone wins, lots of money made, and unregulated capitalism is great.

Tada

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 21:48 (five months ago) Permalink

cool

you never really her (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 April 2018 22:31 (five months ago) Permalink

http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/04/already-dont-much-not-take

Part of this is plain old cruelty. Threatening people who live under the constant stress of being poor in America is a Republican’s idea of fun. However, there’s also the GOP’s projection/confession tic. Republican apparatchicks are obsessed with the idea of poor people, especially poor minorities, sitting around doing nothing because that’s what they do. If they were smart they’d be worried the poor are sitting around planning where to put the guillotines.

El Tomboto, Thursday, 26 April 2018 03:28 (four months ago) Permalink

ha ha, you libs are so hung up on truth. honesty is for self-righteous losers. winners make bank

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/factcheck/fact-checker-president-trump-has-made-3001-false-or-misleading-claims-so-far/ar-AAwAf9U

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 17:57 (four months ago) Permalink

i don't think poor people have a right to be healthy. i'm sorry, i just don't

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 3 May 2018 16:32 (four months ago) Permalink

we have a spending problem all because of that power-hungry democRAT party buying votes, so let's privatize medicare and eliminate welfare programs like social security and public education to balance the budget. the less federal government there is the freer and stronger americans are anyways

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/economy/2018/04/30/treasury-borrowing-set-record-488-billion/567166002/

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 6 May 2018 14:21 (four months ago) Permalink

crooked hillary hired fusion GPS to contract natalia veselnitskya to set poor little innocent don jr. up in june 2016. tax cuts. spending problem. tax cuts!

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 16 May 2018 20:40 (four months ago) Permalink

mr. trump is our lebron james, okay?

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:41 (four months ago) Permalink

some gop ghoul on npr this morning was insisting we needed to act now to cut food stamps to everyone because they just spent 1.5t on tax cuts

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Thursday, 17 May 2018 16:44 (four months ago) Permalink

it's all part of the GOP gameplan - if there isn't a massive deficit, create one, then cut domestic safety net programs to make up the difference

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 May 2018 17:51 (four months ago) Permalink

Correct, and it's a dumb plan. It won't work and we'll just wind up with a larger deficit.

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:00 (four months ago) Permalink

i mean, i didn't think it was a good plan

as far as "it won't work", though, i guess that depends on what you mean. it won't work as in they will fail to cut domestic safety net programs? or it won't work as in it won't work politically and they will pay the price at the polls?

obviously DLC (Karl Malone), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:02 (four months ago) Permalink

I think they'll never be able to cut the programs anywhere near as much as they'd like

Fedora Dostoyevsky (man alive), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:03 (four months ago) Permalink

whatever just keep government out of business

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 17 May 2018 18:31 (four months ago) Permalink

the liberals and the FBI owe the trump family an apology. lock her up!

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 18 May 2018 15:04 (four months ago) Permalink

I believe Donald Trump more than the FBI because Obama and Hillary and taxes and spending problem and terrorists and second amendment solutions and chinese hoaxery and the preverts and the communiss

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 22 May 2018 10:03 (four months ago) Permalink

I see no point in trying to reason with Trump voters

“President Trump has accomplished more positive things for this nation in less than two years than the last three have accomplished in twenty plus years. After the past eight years of a Muslim Marxist in the White House this nation could not survive another demwit in the White House. … Could you please list one thing the demwit party has done for the black people in America other than hand out government freebies for their continued votes?”

“America has a Constitution which guarantees equal rights for all and yet people like you hunger for change that puts people like me in the back of the bus. You seem egar to know what it would be like to be in the driver’s seat. You need look no further than Zimbabwe and South Africa. When people like you started driving the bus, the wheels came off. That’s what terrifies people like me.”

“We’re sick of paying welfare to so many of your brothers who don’t know what work and integrity mean. I hope you keep writing these articles and reminding my White Christian brothers that we did the right thing and we need to re elect Trump.”

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/trump-supporters-speak/

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 27 May 2018 14:41 (three months ago) Permalink

The ORIGINAL identity politics

El Tomboto, Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:54 (three months ago) Permalink

those comments are pearls

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 27 May 2018 15:56 (three months ago) Permalink

can somebody give me a crash course on what Republicans think Hillary Clinton lied about wrt Benghazi

cr.ht (crüt), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 02:41 (three months ago) Permalink

Ranges from 'covered up failures in security' to 'hired Al Qaeda to kill them' AFAICT.

louise ck (milo z), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 03:15 (three months ago) Permalink

'Deliberately chose to not send in a rescue squad' is one I've seen bandied about as well.

how's life, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 09:48 (three months ago) Permalink

Also "slept peacefully through it" despite her campaign shtick about late-night phone calls. And, y'know, time zones or something.

And "ignored a cable" of the thousands of cables that come to the state department.

emotional support vegetable (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:29 (three months ago) Permalink

look, the most important thing to remember is "Hillary lied, four Americans died". How you reach that conclusion is more of a personal matter.

how's life, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:42 (three months ago) Permalink

hillary formed isis with two intentions: murdering ambassador christopher stephens and inspiring a michael bay movie

mission accomplished on both fronts, nothing but respect for my president

and TOWERS MONACO as 'seaman' (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:49 (three months ago) Permalink

As long as she is free, all of us are jailed.* at least dsouza and arpaio are pardoned tho.

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 5 June 2018 10:54 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Feeling lately like an awareness of the extent to which one's mediocrity would be ill-served by a legitimately level playing field is a pretty essential factor.

Rep. Bob Excellentfrappuccino (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 June 2018 19:45 (three months ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

But does he really think the Democrats are less corrupt than Trump and his cabinet?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/never-trumpers-leaving-republican-party-will-not-save-it/

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 9 July 2018 17:48 (two months ago) Permalink

go benzcowkski! watch smug libtards -- mr. putin will restore ukrainian / crimean sovereignty, and mr. trump will win the nobel. free paul manafort!

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 11 July 2018 15:00 (two months ago) Permalink

Upthread, I linked to some of the research on conservatism and the "behavioral immune system". Robert Sapolsky, author of Behave: The Biology of Humans at Our Best and Worst wrote a op-ed for CNN on the topic:

Be alarmed when a leader tries to make you think of humans as vermin

Roomba with an attitude (Sanpaku), Friday, 13 July 2018 01:13 (two months ago) Permalink

President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today, and what he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. I think that’s an incredible offer.

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 16 July 2018 19:00 (two months ago) Permalink

I used to think red baiting was a component of conservatism but I guess it's actually red 'bating. Homophones are tricky!

Nebraska Man Partially Devoured by George Burns Chimp-ersonator (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 July 2018 19:02 (two months ago) Permalink

But I really do want to see the server. But I have confidence in both parties. I, I really believe that this will probably go on for a while. But I don’t think it can go on without finding out what happened to the server. What happened to the servers of the Pakistani gentleman that worked on the DNC? Where are those servers? They’re missing. Where are they? What happened to Hillary Clinton’s emails? Thirty-three thousand emails gone. Just gone. I think in Russia they wouldn’t be gone so easily. I think it’s a disgrace that we can’t get Hillary Clinton’s 33,000 emails.

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 12:28 (two months ago) Permalink

She dumped bleach on them, now the servers are gone bro

Hunt3r, Tuesday, 17 July 2018 16:44 (two months ago) Permalink

i heard the first 4 minutes or so of Rush Lumbago's show today, mostly yelling "no evidence" and "no one ran my opinion on the news last night"

the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 16:56 (two months ago) Permalink

People should look at what the president said yesterday. He stands with intelligence, he accepts the finding, he knows that Russia meddled in the election. But let’s make very clear — did it impact a single vote? No.

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 15:12 (two months ago) Permalink

dear mr. "rich" (white) president,

it's okay to keep insulting my intelligence (and the american intelligence community), so long as you keep triggering those mean and nasty libtards

yours,

deplorable nation

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 July 2018 15:13 (two months ago) Permalink

I’m very concerned that Russia will be fighting very hard to have an impact on the upcoming Election. Based on the fact that no President has been tougher on Russia than me, they will be pushing very hard for the Democrats. They definitely don’t want Trump!

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 15:58 (two months ago) Permalink

But Putin's denial was so strong!

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 16:39 (two months ago) Permalink

It’s amazing. They are doing a number, just stick with us. Don’t believe what you see from these people in the fake news. Don’t believe that crap you see from these people, the fake news.

Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening.

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 18:19 (two months ago) Permalink

“he has too many skeletons, he can’t have a public divorce.”
“the issue was he wanted her to WANT to have the group sex and got upset she didn’t”
“Has mom been tested for STDs?”

https://spectator.us/2018/07/has-mom-been-tested-for-stds-the-manaforts-home-life-and-why-it-matters/

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 18:24 (one month ago) Permalink

everyone is corrupt and only looking out for themselves or lying to themselves about it. people only vote "democrat" to tell the popular republicans in their family to keep their distance at thanksgiving, christmas, and weddings, because they're failed, poor, and/or cheap

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 11 August 2018 13:58 (one month ago) Permalink

I must tell you that Paul Manafort’s a good man. He was with Ronald Reagan; he was with a lot of different people over the years, and I feel very sad about that. Doesn’t involve me but I still feel, you know, it’s a very sad thing that happened. This has nothing to do with Russian collusion. This started as Russian collusion; this has absolutely nothing to do . . . this is a witch hunt that ends in disgrace. But this has nothing to do what they started out, looking for Russians involved in our campaign. There were none. I feel very badly for Paul Manafort. Again, he worked for Bob Dole; he worked for Ronald Reagan. He worked for many, many people and . . . the way it ends up. It was not the original mission, believe me. It was something very much different. So, had nothing to do with Russian collusion. We continue the witch hunt.

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 22:55 (one month ago) Permalink

it's hard to live in a world where smug centrists are always smarter than i am

Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 21 August 2018 23:12 (one month ago) Permalink

"Remember this has nothing to do with Trump!"
"None of this has anything to do with Russia."
"Time to legalize tax evasion ... "
"This is still in no way a "vindication" of the Mueller witch hunt."
"Speaking of unpaid taxes, did Al Sharpton ever pay up, or does he, as a Liberal Democrat, just walk unscathed?"

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 23:38 (one month ago) Permalink

"neutrollization"

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0967010618785102

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 28 August 2018 21:10 (four weeks ago) Permalink

why do right wing nut jobs always default to calling their enemies p3d0z?

maura, Wednesday, 29 August 2018 02:32 (three weeks ago) Permalink

Projection

faculty w1fe (silby), Wednesday, 29 August 2018 02:33 (three weeks ago) Permalink

mr. trump wrote the "op-ed" to show liberals how wrong they are about his intellect and inflexibility. on halloween he'll reveal he's really Q, and the liberals will be forced to admit he's a stable genius. #maga

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 6 September 2018 11:51 (two weeks ago) Permalink


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