like i've spent time thinking about that too, it's like the only remnant of second-wave feminism that has this ardent following (and anti-sex work which, same thing)
spend enough time in their communities and you realize it's just plain hate, same as any right-winger
― qualx, Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:25 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'm lucky in that i haven't encountered anyone like this irl (my social group via my wife swings heavily feminist and lesbian and is totally anti-terf). although having said that i just found out that a new women's library opened up in this city and that it's for "women born as women" or some such slogan :|
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:00 (nine years ago)
run by millennials as well if I'm getting it right
we also have a rape relief non-profit that doesn't serve trans women here too now that i think of it :/
― Islamic State of Mind (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:04 (nine years ago)
kind of strikes me that there are... reasons.. these weird hostile articles seem specifically about trans women and not trans men although they make blanket statements about trans people
― mh 😏, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:07 (nine years ago)
A friend is in the clutches of a TERFy message board full of really pissed-off women whose partners are somewhere in the transition process. It's... not edifying.
― jane burkini (suzy), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:08 (nine years ago)
how are they both TERFs and in relationships with people who are transitioning?!?
― mh 😏, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:09 (nine years ago)
Some people won't listen to sense.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:11 (nine years ago)
Sorry, that's not funny.
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:12 (nine years ago)
xxp: Hence why they are pissed off.
― how's life, Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:14 (nine years ago)
Well, assuming that question is not rhetorical and without getting too person-specific, many of the women posting were decades into marriages with male partners who were referred to gender clinics/became gender-dysphoric/started transitioning. They are heartbroken and lashing out and as part of that, there's a lot of 'they're not women' talk.
― jane burkini (suzy), Thursday, 16 February 2017 20:38 (nine years ago)
I feel like there are people who go down a lefty/feminist road, come across terf theory and have this invigorating "wait, so I can be a feminist *and* a bigot?" moment. Plus, y'know, more money in hate than in journalism nowadays.
TBH I haven't read it because I'm like two months out of the closet and I don't fkn need that shit right now.
― ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Friday, 17 February 2017 06:20 (nine years ago)
yeah i would definitely not recommend reading it, i've rarely been more furious at a piece of writing
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Friday, 17 February 2017 15:03 (nine years ago)
I find it bizarre that people knee-deep in leftist politics and social justice become TERFs, but also remember that common wisdom is still deeply transphobic and trans-exclusive, and the Natasha VC argument is anchored in 'common sense' and pleas to 'just be reasonable'
― flopson, Friday, 17 February 2017 16:21 (nine years ago)
Do the Gawker sites look like shit to anyone running Windows? Trying a Windows PC to see if it can replace my iMac, most sites look fine except for Deadspin/etc. in Chrome and Firefox.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 25 March 2017 04:59 (nine years ago)
(The fonts don't display correctly)
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 25 March 2017 05:00 (nine years ago)
v disappointed to click on this and find that it wasn't written by Rich Juzwiak
http://i.imgur.com/XTkNUfl.png
― he not like the banana (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:06 (nine years ago)
lol
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Thursday, 18 May 2017 15:14 (nine years ago)
http://jezebel.com/lucky-breaks-1796925085
― The Harsh Tutelage of Michael McDonald (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 14 July 2017 21:59 (eight years ago)
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/choire-sicha-wins-times-styles-section-bakeoff
wonder what the nyt fridge makes of this
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 July 2017 18:36 (eight years ago)
I look forward to more insightful quiddities and agonies of our ruling class being transcribed in the times style section
NEW TREND: TREEHOUSE MANSIONS FOR KIDS
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 28 July 2017 19:17 (eight years ago)
Gawker Media was a place that took life-changing chances on young writers and editors and gave them the paychecks and freedom to do work that they could not have done anywhere else. It’s a brave, important, dwindling pursuit, and I feel incredibly lucky to have stumbled upon and benefited from it. I hope it continues to exist.
Aw man
― El Tomboto, Friday, 28 July 2017 20:22 (eight years ago)
nypost.com/2017/09/07/hulk-hogans-lawyer-sets-sights-on-new-target-jezebel/
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:14 (eight years ago)
would anyone miss it
― sleepingbag, Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:37 (eight years ago)
Shitty take
― ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 7 September 2017 19:41 (eight years ago)
i would. the story at the center of this suit was FASCINATING. anna merlan is a very good reporter. (also, maybe think about slippery slopes and precedents before you sneer at a website that probably isn't for you anyway)
http://jezebel.com/inside-superstar-machine-which-ex-members-say-is-a-cul-1775494367
― maura, Thursday, 7 September 2017 20:49 (eight years ago)
I would think that bullying Univision will be much tougher than GawkerMedia.
― louie mensch (milo z), Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:11 (eight years ago)
Did they delete like every article that had a pending lawsuit, yeah they really sound like they're ready to go to the mat
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:12 (eight years ago)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/univision-deletes-gawker-stories-due-active-litigation-article-1.2787121
― maura, Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:17 (eight years ago)
I got the impression that was their way of pretending they bought only the non-litigious content and the writing staff, not the baggage. Which makes no real sense ideologically or legally, but whatever.
This was a new article, and a well-done one, imo. It'll be interesting to see how they react to something that was created under their umbrella
― mh, Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:59 (eight years ago)
And good god, I think I saw the original article before people were commenting on it, and the astroturfing in the comments is surreal
― mh, Friday, 8 September 2017 00:30 (eight years ago)
do we have an ilx thread on self-help cults, etc.
I swear someone's talked about landmark or something similar but I'm not sure where
― mh, Friday, 8 September 2017 00:44 (eight years ago)
❀ the cult of: ➥motivational speakers ➥life coaches ➥personal growth gurus ➥new-age charlatans ➥AWESOMENESS FEST
― sciatica, Friday, 8 September 2017 00:49 (eight years ago)
hmm close enough, that one was a little more for passive scams
― mh, Friday, 8 September 2017 01:07 (eight years ago)
i worked at organic avenue (the company founded by the juicero dude) in 2010 and through that i ended up acquaintances with a few ppl in superstar machine (one of whom is named in that piece). my best friend who worked with me at oa even went to a few of that guy's events. it is suuuuuuch an evil cult/scam
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 8 September 2017 01:13 (eight years ago)
OMG BRAD
I feel very bad for these people but I want to knoooow
― mh, Friday, 8 September 2017 01:37 (eight years ago)
q1: how much emotion lotion was involved
https://youtu.be/JvCmvSKenzY
― maura, Friday, 8 September 2017 02:21 (eight years ago)
just the name "superstar machine" alone
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 8 September 2017 03:51 (eight years ago)
Charles Harder should die of smoke inhalation in his own home
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 September 2017 03:54 (eight years ago)
And Thiel should be convicted of arson and homicide
Also, sleepingbag really working on worst poster status - at least carpet schmuck has the decency to pity himself on the depression thread
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 September 2017 03:56 (eight years ago)
I forgot the sentencing phase. Thiel should become the last American to be executed under the law - using whatever leftover, long-expired chemicals Oklahoma has lying around in 2039 or whenever.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:00 (eight years ago)
Thanks for the shout out, I think. I actually kinda miss Gawker, so I'm not sure where I fit into this.
― carpet_kaiser, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:01 (eight years ago)
Ask me how I really feel about people who decide to become bullies after having been bullied themselves. Ask me.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:02 (eight years ago)
is the problem that there weren't bullied enough?
― Mordy, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:03 (eight years ago)
xp: you're probably an OK person, I just find your style tremendously grating. You don't seem to like many people either, so it's a wash.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:04 (eight years ago)
No. That is never the problem. Are you being serious?
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:05 (eight years ago)
It's a reference to a gawker tweet
― Mordy, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:06 (eight years ago)
I swear to fucking god
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:09 (eight years ago)
El Tomboto, I apologize if I was a dick to you in an earlier incarnation, but you kinda started at me out of nowhere. You put yourself on my radar! Which isn't really a great idea. Play with fire, get burned, baby. I have no personal problem with you, but it's not a great idea to mess with random-ass people you know nothing about.
― carpet_kaiser, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:09 (eight years ago)
Let's just ban all you fucking clowns and just replace everyone with @dril - does that work? You could all go back to your jobs and your families, as could I. Jesus fuck with the twits today.
― El Tomboto, Friday, 8 September 2017 04:10 (eight years ago)