a clown car full of millionaires: the 2016 presidential primary thread

iow lol Alfred otm

also I could proudly vote for Nader secure in the knowledge it would have absolutely zero impact on the election, which was true.

What's Gore up to? Does he still have a beard? Does he have a girlfriend? Does he still work for Apple/Google? Does he still make documentaries about the environment? Seems like a guy very much at ease out of the public eye.

Does he still have a beard?

I thought he was straight!

Al Gore GIS is very rewarding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhMwA4YQ5Sw

beautiful use of the glottal by big Joe

What is up with this free speech social network bullshit that Joe Lieberman is pushing?

Al Gore GIS is very rewarding.

Actually it wasn't, though here he looks a lot like Philip Glass:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSo6X4ySSPeH1jH8u6J9id2zOPqDGkYGzvv2NzbHyST00O7Pwuh

http://bhcourier.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Don-Henley1-540x360.jpg

I know he has his issues (he's a socialist), but this whole thing where people proclaim him unelectable sounds like 2008 all over again.

― schwantz, Monday, September 28, 2015 2:56 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh right because a 73-year-old Jew who left Brooklyn for the whitest state in the nation because he didn't like the city so much and is unknown to 1/3 of the democratic party and doesn't understand twitter is exactly like a 47-year-old african-american who's lived in five of the six largest metros in america, spent part of his youth in asia, cites jay-z on the stump, had delivered one of the best-known political speeches of the previous decade, and built the best social media campaign in history.

not denying that clinton did some good things in his first year, but it is perverse to characterize the candidate who ran on "ending welfare as we know it" and subsequently did exactly that as an "economic populist."

― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, September 28, 2015 3:32 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what's "perverse" is to pretend i said something i didn't. i didn't "characterize" clinton "as an economic populist", i said, by way of explanation that he was not entirely a "DLC" (or DLC) candidate), that he "served up a good deal of economic populism" as part of a menu of policy and political stances to appeal to the various constituencies that make up the democratic coalition. exactly like the famous red/blue state lines in obama's dnc speech btw. and what's close enough is to elide the fact that while clinton did include welfare reform among his 92 menu, he also dropped it from his 100-days agenda, doing the economy (including tax hikes and spending) first, and health care second, turning to "workfare" only late in his first term after losing the entire congress in a reversal of three generations of democratic dominance of the legislative branch.

worth noting that the early caucuses before the general primary have a pattern of idealistic choices from the right and "electable" choices from the left, and Obama did really well in those

guess I am trying to say I caucused for Obama, sorry America

the guy who proudly voted for nader in 2000 refuses to support bernie sanders

welllll, Nader was not a mega-Israel hack

(Senator Gore was tho)

47-year-old african-american who's lived in five of the six largest metros in america, spent part of his youth in asia, cites jay-z on the stump, had delivered one of the best-known political speeches of the previous decade, and built the best social media campaign in history.
--it's not a tuomas (benbbag)

And he's like 1/18th German or something too don't forget that shit that was super imports.

German americans, again and again

I want to hear what Frederick thinks of Gore.

maybe you guys could get a thread for that

And he's like 1/18th German or something too don't forget that shit that was super imports.

― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Monday, September 28, 2015 11:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, don't forget that America was intensely concerned with to which precise decimal point obama was of german ancestry rather than widely but shallowly registering the fact of those german roots, well-publicized in connection with the massive speech he gave in berlin in the middle of his overseas tour in the summer of '08 as planned by a very smart campaign famous for its "microtargeting" of the electorate and surely aware of the german-american cast of both the contemporary ethnic composition and historical root culture of the middle america from which he sought to identify as hailing.

obama kenyan roots - About 370,000 results
obama irish roots - About 1,540,000 results
obama german roots - About 8,040,000 results

being a smart-ass means never having to the confront the possibility that i might have identified a perhaps-highly salient political/demographic factor that you had never considered, expressive of my deeper understanding of the electorate/country, i guess.

I didn't know until this thread that Obama's wite half had german ancestry and I care even less now than i did before, as the grandchild of German Jewish refugees from the Holocaust no less.

i don't agree with everything this ex-538 brit has to say, but oh boy is this OTM:

"While the Republicans are by and large an ideological coalition in which divisions depend on how conservative one is, the Democrats are an ad hoc coalition of interest groups, some of which are ideological(committed liberals), but the vast majority of which are Democrats due to perceiving themselves as being under attack by Republicans. African American voters, for whom white and Republican can be used interchangeably in the South to describe political power structures, Hispanics who distrust Republicans on the basis of hostility to immigration, unions that fear Republican right-to-work laws, and women's groups concerned about abortion. All of these groups are Democrats because they lose if a Republican is in office, and this means that they get nothing if a Democratic goes down saying what they believe. In fact, the only group that cares about that sort of symbolism tends to be middle-to-upperclass, mostly white, liberals who have the luxury of being indifferent enough to see politics as ideological tennis game fought every two to four years."

http://www.therestlessrealist.com/2015/06/bernie-sanders-demographic-challenge.html

well refugees from Nazi Germany technically, dayenu selfxp

I didn't know until this thread that Obama's wite half had german ancestry and I care even less now than i did before, as the grandchild of German Jewish refugees from the Holocaust no less.

― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:03 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

surely it hasn't escaped you that this would make you precisely the opposite of the sort of person to whom the campaign sought to identify the candidate

incidentally, the holocaust specifically but the world wars generally are largely to account for the decline in german-american consciousness and identification, including on the part of part-german-american donald trump who until a few years back supposedly thought he was or more likely tried to pass himself off as swedish.

just the other day - http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/23/opinion/whatever-happened-to-german-america.html?_r=0

actually once my dad sends me notarized copies of everything gonna try to get my German nationality restored, figure having two passports can't be a bad idea

NB have never been to Germany, hear they have nice trains

actually once my dad sends me notarized copies of everything gonna try to get my German nationality restored, figure having two passports can't be a bad idea

― go hang a salami I'm a canal, adam (silby), Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:11 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it will be under President Trump

which is pretty much the only situation I can imagine moving with urgency to germany so

yeah, Trump's a real piece of volkstumlich, never mind that his daughter converted for marriage via the modern orthodox congregation up the street (a block beyond which is where howard dean grew up)

i'm not sure that they ever determined a cause of the fire that burned out the inside of the synagogue two years later, which was preliminarily deemed a probable accident. i remember looking out the window and thinking someone had bombed the subway station.

"obama kenyan roots - About 370,000 results
obama irish roots - About 1,540,000 results
obama german roots - About 8,040,000 results"

So annoyed that the iPhone interface does not allow me to see the necessary google info with which to clown this

you're doing just as fine with those shoes as ever

Obama "Kenyan roots" 30,800
Obama "German roots" 6850

Hmmmmm

trains in Germany are really pricey silby fyi

i really wouldnt put anything past this moronic nation, but i think Trump will stop himself from being prez if he needs to.

Considering the entire first page of those vaunted Google search results is researchers discovering that Obama had German ancestry after the election I think I'll still be able to make it through the day without having to confront the fact that gabbneb might be right about anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4UqMyldS7Q

do germans pronounce it like "Troomp"

obama kenyan roots - About 370,000 results
obama irish roots - About 1,540,000 results
obama german roots - About 8,040,000 results

being a smart-ass means never having to the confront the possibility that i might have identified a perhaps-highly salient political/demographic factor that you had never considered, expressive of my deeper understanding of the electorate/country, i guess.

― it's not a tuomas (benbbag)

Obama "Kenyan roots" 30,800
Obama "German roots" 6850

Hmmmmm

― a strawman stuffed with their collection of 12 cds (jjjusten)

obama german robots - About 1,250,000 results
obama german ancestry microtargeting - About 12,300 results
obama german roots Hall and Oates - About 416,000 results
manipulating google
obama is my father - About 57,200,000 results
obama is my real father - About 37,100,000 results
Do you ever search Google for phrases that might link to 'your kind of web page'
things i remember about my barack obama from when we played kickball down the street - About 75,300 results
examples of obama trying to capture the german-american vote during early adolescence - About 46,900 results
who's the boss reunion starring barack obama - About 814,000 results
How to search on Google

dying

gabbneb either you have some truly next-level shit saved up for 2016 or you are peaking early out of excitement. we need plenty of nebbing when the rubber hits the road so please don't wear yourself out

evidence that supports the thing i made up, preferably evidence that expresses a deep understanding of the electorate country i guess

About 551,000 results

pickle fries
about tasty 4,180,000 results

mmm

obama pickleback roots - About 40,300 results (0.53 seconds)

Obama likes Nickelback
About 387,000 results (0.36 seconds)

obama german chocolate cake

About 3,900,000 results (0.38 seconds)

the only google result that matters

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130617131506-01-obama-irish-roots-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

really hoping for blow-by-blow analysis of each candidate's well-concealed but powerfully felt dog-whistle appeals inciting the long-simmering resentment between mecklenburg-vorpommern-americans and alsace-lorrainean-americans

Das Troomp

lol

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