privilege as a meme

bothers me that grayson perry continues to refer to himself as a "tranny" in his recent spate of interviews

What is going on with Grayson's opening para:

Paddle your canoe up the River Thames and you will come round the bend and see a forest of huge totems jutting into the sky. Great shiny monoliths in various phallic shapes, they are the wondrous cultural artefacts of a remarkable tribe. We all know someone from this powerful tribe but we very rarely, if ever, ascribe their power to the fact that they have a particular tribal identity.

Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, Tokyo etc. Was this really a good opening example?

I think the business suit is a better example eg...no matter where you go in the world, people have abandoned their own often colourful and relaxed - clothing and embraced the business suit.. that drab uniform and cultural artefact that instantly communicates subscription to a range of values and a dull seriousness.

"SJW" was first used against black feminists, some of whom are now pissed about white mainstream feminists trying to reclaim that title when it wasn't them that it was originally coined to hurt. See @dtwps' #SJWhistory tag: https://twitter.com/search?f=realtime&q=%23sjwhistory&src=typd

There was also a lot more related stuff buried in @dtwps' feed that they didn't tag so it's kind of hard to get to now.

^^yes

didn't know about that

I didn't know that either and I'm sure a lot of people who use SJW don't. I didn't use it much or think about its roots particularly but as soon as I saw it used as an insult in gamergate I realised it had been twisted too far to be used in anything other than a toxic way.

could've sworn i saw "social justice warrior" in tumblr about-me paragraphs before all that happened but i'm probably misremembering

i've followed r!ley since 2009 and remember when "SJW" started sprouting up, wasn't under the impression it was limited to those specific events but it wouldn't surprise me. r/TumblrInAction ("TIA") was basically reddit's introduction to That Side of tumblr (and by extension the livejournal communities that had been doing "SJ" for years ignored) and that group of black writers would get attacked there more than anyone else.

would it be callous of me to ask who r!ley is? serious q because they seem to be an important person?

i haven't followed any of this and am trying to make sense of it all but it's honestly quite confusing
what i have gathered is that "sjw" = "social justice warrior" and this is now considered an insult
beyond that idgi :-/

xp it isn't weird for you not to know. a v central figure in "SJ" tumblr before it became as huge as it is now, originally called their blog "dumbth!ngswhitepeoplesay". posted a zillion times a day and faced a lot of harassment and was unwilling to back down from a lot of opposition. posted a lot of really good dessert recipes. feel weird saying more than that about someone who isn't like... a public figure.

Cover looks kinda... I dunno? different when accompanied by list of contributors (and especially who gets top billing)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bzl5m-XIQAAjjOi.jpg

Your satire is rather blunted when you repeat the same trope you're supposedly criticising.

that's hilarious

face of horror at the idea of that martin amis piece

There's got to be some kind of word for the level of not even satire hypocrisy involved with something like that.

Christ.

They forgot scatological porn and hating the proles.

Quite tempted to poll the worst white man on that cover.

had to be all white men including the 'with' section to pull that off

how to look like the ruling elf

ugh mary beard

surely baddiel worst but never read amis

SJW replaced with skeletons

http://i.imgur.com/WZmTgrH.png

where does that come from, any idea

ILAFL it looks like

x-posts: check out #SJW if you want to peep at what the "enemy" is up to. It's more entertaining than feeling like you're eavesdropping on some little twitter. WHAT is "gamer gate"?

how the fuck do we have 4 different threads featuring people asking "what is gamer gate" rn

i mean i get it and thats no shots at u I M Losted its just frustrating that their garbaggio is in half my tabs right now and all i am is a witness, can't imagine being a target

here's a primer: http://deadspin.com/the-future-of-the-culture-wars-is-here-and-its-gamerga-1646145844

#NotYourGoogle

Thanks, I was investiGATing this point as you were typing. A few observations:

-are gamers worth my time?
-weird Randoid Slavic libertarianism
is bringing out the "nativist" in me.
It's so in-American, it's turning me into a flag-waver

UN-American, I mean. Weird how these Russians are all "fuck yeah".

gamers are not worth your time

i really want to be on the right side of history re: gamergate but i can't get over my initial reaction, which is "don't play video games"

some video games are fun and all but i guess i don't get why everything has to have a 'culture.'

i thought gamergate was about who killed Roger Ebert

i don't get why everything has to have a 'culture.'

I'm sure you know the actual answer to this. Sociologists started slicing off subcultures from mainstream cultures many decades ago and, once started, this process has no clear stopping place. By now, bowling leagues and book clubs are sometimes treated as subcultures.

Politically speaking, it is especially useful to have a culture to defend, as this aligns you with the general movement for minority rights and allows you to frame the argument in terms of your oppression by outsiders. The co-option of this narrative was pioneered by opponents of affirmative action. Now it is everywhere.

Alt litgate must be super stoked bigger group of nerds snatched the spotlight

no, that lasted about as long as a controversy over alt lit was ever going to last

oh it continues, it's just back to only existing within the petri dish. and thank god.

sigh

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/realestate/a-greenwich-village-apartment-for-a-creative-soul.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&bicmp=AD&bicmlukp=WT.mc_id&bicmst=1409232722000&bicmet=1419773522000&_r=1

I hadnt really read about gamergate until yesterday. Horrifying. I seriously don't understand the rape and murder threat thing but I think it should be something that carries serious legal penalty.

Maybe theres no way to do that which wouldn't implicate offhanded outbursts or whatever, but the systematic intimidation campaigns carried out by some of these men is clearly harassment at best, but seems more serious than that word implies

UK law is obviously different, but rape threats via Twitter to a feminist in the UK got two people sent to jail: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/twitter-trolls-isabella-sorley-and-john-nimmo-jailed-for-abusing-feminist-campaigner-caroline-criadoperez-9083829.html

offhanded outbursts or whatever

I seriously don't know how anyone "offhandedly" types the words "You should be raped" or anything similar. I have said some vile shit to people online, much of which I regret, and none of which I posted in any kind of "offhand" manner. Every time I did it, I carefully considered my phrasing for maximum impact. So basically, these pieces of shit should be implicated, because they know exactly what they're doing. And if they don't, they shouldn't be allowed near any form of modern technology, frankly.

I was thinking about how you'd phrase the law to differentiate these comments with the innumerable ilxors who've told me to "die in a fire" and similar

I read an article/essay earlier this year by a woman who was being stalked and sent death and rape threats on twitter and the most marked thing about trying to get law enforcement to do anything about it was that cops didn't even understand what twitter was. They kept saying things to her like, "Well just stay off-line then, what's the problem?" Iirc they didn't consider the threats credible so nothing was done. Basically they're not credible until someone actually carries them out, at which point you're dead.

Don't think these gamergate ppl are being offhanded

I'm trying to find it again but searches are full with gamergate and Brianna Wu hits.

Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

Maybe it was this one: http://skepchick.org/2013/10/why-i-dont-just-go-to-the-cops/