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She is...Jabba Fierce.

Event Horizon (Nicole), Wednesday, 11 March 2009 14:34 (seventeen years ago)

loooooooool

51 SBs on my dresser, yessir (deej), Thursday, 12 March 2009 00:39 (seventeen years ago)

lisa schiffren, thinkin baout things...

Young Miss Palin [Lisa Schiffren]

A mere ten weeks or so after the birth of their baby, Bristol Palin and her co-parent, Levi Johnston, have split up. There will be no marriage. According to the AP, and Mr. Johnston, it was a mutual decision. The same article manages to note that Bristol is devastated. Mr. Johnston, who sees the baby frequently, will continue to be an involved father, the story reports. Or maybe he won't. Or perhaps he will sometimes, when he isn't busy, unless he gets involved with someone else who doesn't want that. Ms. Palin will continue to be the mother full-time — because she doesn't have a choice. Which is not to suggest that she would want to abandon the baby. Few women do.

Luckily the Palins appear to be a very strong family, with many hands willing to pitch in and care for all the children. That is more than most young women have, and it is a great blessing. But it won't be enough. Being 18 and a single mother is only a little easier for a pretty, middle-class girl than it is for less well-protected girls from those parts of our society where marriage and involved fathers disappeared a couple of generations ago.

I certainly don't know if they should have gotten married. You'd have thought so . . . even if it didn't last forever. Better odds for the kid. If the parents didn't like it, well, they should have thought about that when they were drinking and fooling around. But, as we all know, shotgun marriages lead to plenty of unhappiness, some of the time. And very young marriages have a lousy track record. So parents of the expecting teens are not willing to push. And maybe they are sometimes right. Still, the default position of the girl, left on her own with the baby, now in serious and immediate need of further education and a set of remunerative skills with which to support herself and Tripp, which will be harder to acquire with her maternal responsibilities, isn't much of a happy picture either.

For all of the high-minded discussion of marriage policy on these pages and elsewhere, to me it looks very late. That train left a while ago. Even Corner readers, who will discuss choosing life vs. abortion, with endless passion, do not get so worked up about marriage. Which is why all I have to say is, "poor girl."

it's like one of those movies where someone confuses a robot with conflicting logic until it blows up

goole, Thursday, 12 March 2009 14:12 (seventeen years ago)

the girl, left on her own with the baby, now in serious and immediate need of further education

Only now?

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 March 2009 14:16 (seventeen years ago)

sounds like socialism to me

bnw, Thursday, 12 March 2009 14:17 (seventeen years ago)

haha @goole

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 12 March 2009 14:19 (seventeen years ago)

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs032.snc1/2660_69359237145_609932145_2356994_1835970_n.jpg

back row center, guess who

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

your brother?

wow heaven is cool (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

Is the one on Jonah's left Ramesh Ponnoru in drag?

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

lol

sidenote tho--thinking abt making the blazer + kahkis + tie + throwback boks my spring look

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

The Three Martini Brunch Club

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

throwback boks

red bok classics or gtfo

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

well theyd have to match my tie & my argyle vest homie

rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

Guys, that's Tony Hadley in the front.

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

Listening to K-Lo
ALL DAY LONG...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 12 March 2009 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

Book Stuff [Andy McCarthy]

The controversies over what's to be done about the Gitmo detainees and whether Obama is returning us to pre-9/11 counterterrorism seem to have sparked some renewed interest in my book, Willful Blindness (which, now cruising along at number 35,934 on Amazon, would be breathing down Jonah's neck if, y'know, he had a much bigger neck).

dude how big do you want his neck to BE

dmr, Thursday, 12 March 2009 21:26 (seventeen years ago)

maybe he doesn't want to protect it

kingfish, Thursday, 12 March 2009 22:01 (seventeen years ago)

ok please tell me they just accidentally deleted every post since november. i know it's probably a glitch, but dear god please

da croupier, Friday, 13 March 2009 19:59 (seventeen years ago)

lol

mark cl, Friday, 13 March 2009 20:01 (seventeen years ago)

whatever happened it allowed me to read some of the corner's greatest hits post-election

mark cl, Friday, 13 March 2009 20:03 (seventeen years ago)

"I'll miss President Bush."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 March 2009 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

Best American Posts At The Corner. Guest Editor: Chuck Eddy

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 March 2009 20:08 (seventeen years ago)

This I Vow [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

I will never, ever, ever mention Groundhog Day again in The Corner. After I did, the whole site reverted back to November.

November was not good times.

mark cl, Friday, 13 March 2009 23:19 (seventeen years ago)

On the Top of the Nov. 8 Web Briefing [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

We had:

I'll miss President Bush. Jim Towey, Wall Street Journal

I do.

mark cl, Friday, 13 March 2009 23:20 (seventeen years ago)

This I Vow [Kathryn Jean Lopez]

I will never, ever, ever mention Groundhog Day again in The Corner. After I did, the whole site reverted back to November.

November was not good times.

― mark cl, Friday, March 13, 2009 11:19 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark

looooooooooooooooooooooooooool

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Saturday, 14 March 2009 00:01 (seventeen years ago)

Biblical Epics on Blu-Ray [Leo Grin]

Heads up, conservative film fans: Today sees the Blu-Ray debut of two of the all-time great Christian movies, Quo Vadis (1951) and The Robe (1953). These lush, high-budget precursors to The Ten Commandments (1956) and Ben-Hur (1959) each boast spectacular Technicolor restorations along with an impressive array of special features, right in time for Easter.

It’s worth noting that stars like Richard Burton, Robert Taylor, Deborah Kerr, Victor Mature, Jean Simmons, and Peter Ustinov all immersed themselves to various degrees in the miserable culture of drugs, alcohol, affairs, bisexuality, and leftist fellow-travelling that soiled Hollywood then as today. Nevertheless, they collectively rose to the occasion in this pair of wholesome, God-fearing pictures, helping to birth a decades-long Renaissance in rousing cinematic tales of battle, pageantry, lust, decadence, beauty, piety, and sacrifice. Modern stars would do well to emulate their example — The Robe still ranks higher on the all-time box office chart than any of the Pirates of the Caribbean films, the Spider Man films, or the Lord of the Rings films.

Many assume that such old-school success is now impossible in a too-cool-for-pews, post-Life of Brian popular culture. But The Passion of the Christ, itself released in a lavish Blu-Ray “Definitive Edition” last month, proved a scant few years back that blockbuster profits still await those who take pains to produce inspired, unabashedly sincere Christian fare. A massive, starving, international audience is out there, waiting. All that’s needed is for Hollywood to begin serving it once again. Restoring gems like Quo Vadis and The Robe is a healthy start, and Fox and Warner Brothers deserve praise for brightening this Lenten season with two classics of the genre presented in sumptuous, revelatory Blu-Ray.

— Leo Grin is a writer living in Los Angeles.

goole, Tuesday, 17 March 2009 20:58 (seventeen years ago)

Leo Grin must be a lonely, lonely dude.

I probably just wasted some more energy in my fingers telling you guys (stevie), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 08:19 (seventeen years ago)

His name seems ironic.

Event Horizon (Nicole), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 12:25 (seventeen years ago)

he should be a smiling lion, and yet he's a mewling prude

I probably just wasted some more energy in my fingers telling you guys (stevie), Wednesday, 18 March 2009 12:31 (seventeen years ago)

Grin's that Conan dude. Can't say that I'm surprised to learn that someone so devoted to Conan is also a Corn(i)er writer.

Wall Street Panic Palin, Wednesday, 18 March 2009 15:30 (seventeen years ago)

O, Labor! [Lisa Schiffren]

Do women really experience orgasm, or something like it while giving birth? This story makes that claim. And it links to a documentary. Let's hope it's true — and the thousands of years of pain associated with childbirth was just a sign of lack of enlightenment — and failure to practice yoga. It's especially important now, because when we have nationalized health care the odds you'll be getting an epidural will diminish radically. Just ask all those British, Canadian, and other moms — let alone the women of Eastern Europe, Russia, China, and the third world.

the fuck is this woman on about

goole, Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:04 (seventeen years ago)

ha and it's a 'grauniad' link too

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/mar/18/orgasmic-birth-climax-labour

goole, Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:04 (seventeen years ago)

lol wth

the name's ban. suggest ban (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:06 (seventeen years ago)

Wait until she finds out you also shit yourself. She'll be so confused she'll explode like one of those computers on Star Trek when Kirk gives them a logic problem.

lolling through my bagel (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:11 (seventeen years ago)

why is it the more I learn about childbirth, the less it seems like a miraculous event and the more it seems like a cruel, cruel prank

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:14 (seventeen years ago)

^^^ have you ever even had a conversation with a woman who has given birth dan????

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

Yes, I have! Not a one of them has owned up to shitting themselves.

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

lol in obama's new iron curtain amerika you won't get your baby until you've proven to a bureaucrat that you shit ursalf properly!!

goole, Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:15 (seventeen years ago)

dark times

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:16 (seventeen years ago)

oh i just meant that the whole "lol childbirth is like this painful thing and is not really a beautiful miracle for the lady actually doing it" is like the oldest duh roll-yr-eyes men-just-don't-get-it thing ever

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:17 (seventeen years ago)

well yeah, duh; it just seems that adding shitting yourself to that is just cruel (even if it is an obvious consequence once you think about the situation)

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:31 (seventeen years ago)

Plenty of women release some feces during pushing stage, but it is immediately removed by nurses/midwives as needed (and during the labor I watched, the woman never noticed this was going on - even with an epidural, you're pretty distracted). Some women's systems kind of clean themselves out before labor starts (this is why diarrhea can be a sign of impending labor, and in fact was what tipped me off to being in preterm labor - usually pregnant ladies have the opposite problem).

As for the orgasmic birth thing... well, whatever works for you, I guess. I wouldn't expect it, though.

So, socialized medicine will somehow move anesthesiologists priorities further away from giving epidurals...? Not sure I'm getting the logic here. Their priority is already the person having surgery over a woman in labor. And hey, here in my little town, I didn't get an epidural with my second because the anesthesiologist was on the golf course!

Sara R-C, Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:43 (seventeen years ago)

wait which golf course? if it's that one way south of town, then he is some no-class anesthesiologist

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:44 (seventeen years ago)

Pretty sure we only have one golf course in Northfield. (?!)

Dude got shoved off into the corner while I gave birth; he showed up, but things were just going too fast for him to get his job done. He wanted me to sign some papers, tried to give me some information, he talked painfully slowly, and I just remember realizing that I had to PUSH NOW!!! I think he probably did the anesthesia for the D&C I had later, though, so at least his trip to the hospital was worth it.

Sara R-C, Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:46 (seventeen years ago)

oh right thot u were in hstngs

i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:48 (seventeen years ago)

I planned to have my first baby there, but switched at the end when I had a traumatic visit to that hospital's maternity ward. HSTNGS had horrendous childbirth classes and it seemed like they were totally pushing a "we'll try to talk you out of an epidural" thing.

Sara R-C, Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:51 (seventeen years ago)

to be honest I'm kind of surprised HSTNGS doesn't make you hang off of a merry-go-round

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:53 (seventeen years ago)

Best thing about their childbirth prep. class was the snacks. (And the sense of humor of some of the participants. One guy saw a dilatation chart and exclaimed, "That's gotta leave a mark!!!")

I was not a fan.

Sara R-C, Thursday, 19 March 2009 20:56 (seventeen years ago)

Why does Maggie Gallagher worry about women in labor shitting themselves when she's got shit coming out of her mouth and fingers?

The Screaming Lobster of Challops (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 March 2009 21:22 (seventeen years ago)

[nsfw] SHITTING DICK NIPPLES

Wes HI DEREson (HI DERE), Thursday, 19 March 2009 21:28 (seventeen years ago)


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