Yeah, seriously. I made it a bit over halfway, but the guy is literally saying "not fucking me is a crime for which you will pay with your life". FFS.
― emil.y, Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:46 (twelve years ago)
What the fucking fuck
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:47 (twelve years ago)
those posted YT videos look like a satire, his laugh is pure drama club overacting villain
― nauru, Saturday, 24 May 2014 14:59 (twelve years ago)
Ucsb is a horrible place right now. Recent headlines include meningitis, rape and murder.
― panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Saturday, 24 May 2014 15:47 (twelve years ago)
'isla vista' is not the same thing as 'ucsb'
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 15:57 (twelve years ago)
but yes, isla vista has many problems
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:01 (twelve years ago)
there are a bunch of tribute pages up about this dude already, the trolly tribute/support of a mass shooter thing is going to be really strange with this one
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:08 (twelve years ago)
I hate to link to the blaze (don't read the comments) but this was interesting:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/24/13-facebook-pictures-reveal-the-luxurious-life-of-suspected-ucsb-campus-killer/
― akm, Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:32 (twelve years ago)
taht forum linked above is down now and rickrollin'...what was it?
― akm, Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:41 (twelve years ago)
man if he's another rich Hollywood dude's son. In 2001, a similar type drove his car through a block party in isla vista.
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:41 (twelve years ago)
just google 'push ate jezebel'
Sorry puahate
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:42 (twelve years ago)
"3 dead in shooting at Jewish Museum of Belgium, minister says":http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/world/europe/belgium-jewish-museum-shooting/index.html
― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Saturday, 24 May 2014 16:46 (twelve years ago)
Never know what I'm supposed to say about these stories but in the Isla Vista case, the BMW he was driving and the conventionally attractive appearance of the guy seem worth pointing, given the kind of ... 'cause' he was espousing?
― cardamon, Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:27 (twelve years ago)
he clearly couldn't get a date because he was a freaky creep and women had the good sense to stay away from him.
― akm, Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:28 (twelve years ago)
^^^
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:29 (twelve years ago)
you watch him talk and it's a million red flags within the first twenty seconds aside from the obvious 'i'm going to have vengeance today' BS. i assume there are more red flags after that, i stopped watching.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:33 (twelve years ago)
Do we have external confirmation that he'd never got a date/was a virgin? I always wonder about this, like in cases where the killer 'was a victim of bullying' (probably because I don't want to believe that people who really struggle socially are the ones who become killers, tbh).
― cardamon, Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:36 (twelve years ago)
figure he's the type who had a lot of money and status thrown at him, maybe more than love was given him, and he fell in with a bunch of online creeps who misled him further on how women were horrible and how they couldn't be trusted.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:37 (twelve years ago)
xp (i.e. I like to think that the killers pretend to be having a bad time, sort of stealing that identity from the people who really are)
― cardamon, Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:37 (twelve years ago)
seems like he was a weakminded kind of guy who was pushed by a bunch of psychotic alpha male wannabes into a place where he ended up doing something like this.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:38 (twelve years ago)
I do wonder what his dad's like.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 May 2014 17:42 (twelve years ago)
Has anyone ever published a study of the rate at which these US school and college shootings are happening? Part of the horror is it feels like it's becoming a 'standard' thing now, an emerging liability that every year there's going to be one, something that just happens
― cardamon, Saturday, 24 May 2014 18:01 (twelve years ago)
AJ Soprano
― That's So (Eazy), Saturday, 24 May 2014 18:13 (twelve years ago)
I will be a god compared to you, you will all be animals, you are animals and I will slaughter you like animals.
this is p bog-standard frustrated-psycho, right? probably woulda found another value system to be an ubermensch in had pua-culture not existed. still highlights p vividly the kind of people (or the kind of parts in people) that shit plugs into.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 24 May 2014 18:21 (twelve years ago)
So early reports say he is the son of the Hunger Games director.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:30 (twelve years ago)
Family attorney has issued a statement:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/killed-mass-murder-shooting-uc-santa-barbara/story?id=23853918
Key part:
The gunman who killed six people and died in a mass shooting near the University of California, Santa Barbara, has been identified by an attorney representing his father. The father of Elliot Rodger confirmed through his attorney, Alan Schifman, that his son was the gunman. The 22-year-old was being treated by multiple therapists and was a student at Santa Barbara City College, said Schifman. Schifman said that Rodger’s family was “devastated.” Schifman said in recent weeks that Rodger’s parents were concerned for their son's well being and reported his disturbing YouTube videos to police, which lead to an investigation. According to Schifman, police interviewed Rodger and found him to be “polite and kind.” He did not specify which law enforcement division conducted the interview. A social worker also contacted police about Rodger last week, said Schifman. Schifman said Rodger was diagnosed as being a high-functioning patient with Asperger syndrome and had faced bullying through much of his life as he had trouble making friends.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:31 (twelve years ago)
oof.
― how's life, Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:39 (twelve years ago)
my god it's full of lawsuits
― building a desert (art), Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:43 (twelve years ago)
If what's said by the attorney is as described, I am strongly suspecting one of the results of this will be discussion/possible adoption of Laura's Law in Santa Barbara. It's a California statute calling for required institutionalizing of patients even against their will. I don't need to spell out exactly how/why this would be fraught; I would defer to others to add further thoughts. More here:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura's_Law
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 May 2014 19:59 (twelve years ago)
Just was on a rooftop deck blasting "Pumped Up Kicks" of all songs.
― That's So (Eazy), Saturday, 24 May 2014 20:06 (twelve years ago)
Three bodies found in his apartment:
http://gawker.com/this-afternoon-at-least-one-body-was-removed-from-the-1581174371
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 May 2014 23:25 (twelve years ago)
:'( God, this sucks.
― how's life, Saturday, 24 May 2014 23:27 (twelve years ago)
jesus
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 23:32 (twelve years ago)
I hope they delete this loser's 'manifesto' before showing it to anybody
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 24 May 2014 23:33 (twelve years ago)
I'm reading it now. :/
― jaymc, Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:13 (twelve years ago)
why?
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:25 (twelve years ago)
Just reinforcing the jolts of panic that shoot through me when I realize I've just spent X amount of time without looking behind me for menacing randoms or assessing the nearest exit door.
― how's life, Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:30 (twelve years ago)
apparently police had visited the shooter after his father called and told them his son had been ranting about suicide and killing people. police supposedly found nothing wrong w/ him.
shouldn't ANYONE who posts youtubes that say such things be institutionalized until they find out what the fuck is going on? i just can't believe the police were like, "nah, he checks out, have a nice day."
― display name changed. (amateurist), Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:32 (twelve years ago)
Your Boring Saturday Night
― jaymc, Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:33 (twelve years ago)
amateurist, that's probably due to the sheer amount of people posting stuff like this on youtube and the lack of time and resources police have to analyse it?
― cardamon, Sunday, 25 May 2014 00:40 (twelve years ago)
xp c'mon man
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 25 May 2014 01:10 (twelve years ago)
I'm sure it doesn't matter, but it just doesn't seem like the most empathetic move. I could be wrong about that, though.
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 25 May 2014 01:12 (twelve years ago)
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/deranged-santa-barbara-california-killer-tied-premeditated-youtube-video-reports-article-1.1804354
Martinez's father, Richard, shouted with grief and blamed “craven” and “irresponsible” politicians and the NRA for the death of his only son at a press conference on Saturday.“You don’t think it will happen to your child until it does,” Martinez said as he held a photo of his son as a child playing baseball. “Chris was a really great kid, ask anyone who knew him. His death has left our family lost and broken.”"When will this insanity stop," the crying dad screamed. He added, "We should say to ourselves, 'Not one more," before he dropped the mic and stormed away from the podium.
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 25 May 2014 01:18 (twelve years ago)
The "manifesto" is actually a 150-page autobiography.
― jaymc, Sunday, 25 May 2014 01:27 (twelve years ago)
For what it's worth. Maybe not much.
― jaymc, Sunday, 25 May 2014 01:30 (twelve years ago)
I see. I guess I just feel like the shooter wanted us to read it. So the only 'fuck you' available to me is to not read it. But like I said, it doesn't really matter.
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 25 May 2014 01:32 (twelve years ago)
― akm, Saturday, May 24, 2014 12:28 PM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Having now read the entire "manifesto," what strikes me is that he constantly bemoans the fact that women don't pay attention to him and are "repulsed by" him, but at no point does he ever actually approach a woman -- he seems to think that women should immediately recognize his "magnificence" and throw themselves at him. Perhaps his creepiness was apparent to the world, but it may also be true that the women who enraged him never had any cause to notice him in the first place.
― jaymc, Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:04 (twelve years ago)
yeah, that's what I got too. & a very conflicted view of the acts of male-female sexuality.
― Euler, Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:15 (twelve years ago)
ie he was grossed out by male-female sex
― Euler, Sunday, 25 May 2014 02:16 (twelve years ago)