"Hipster" as pejorative.

all hipsters aren't french but all french people are hipsters iirc

http://www.parisbao.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/handsome-french-man.jpg

i think they are right that "hipsters" are a smokescreen that people use in order to avoid talking about actual economic and cultural realities relating to the increasing stratification of wealth in america.

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yeah and also I think they are correct that at least when the professional class talks about hipsters they are masking anxiety about people living their lives in a different way. Obviously this is only one of many groups of people who uses the word "hipster" in many different ways, but I think the article is right on that point.

a shocking number of people who can afford 2k a month brooklyn apartments and cool glasses are actually in the professional class

okay, when squares sneer at hipsters, they're expressing anxiety about difference

when hipsters sneer at hipsters, they're just being hipsters

expressing anxiety about sameness, w/e

they put salmon in the fish tacos, hank! SAL-MON!

xp aren't we back to sneering at gentrifying yuppies again? i feel like sneering at hipsters is more a thing to do during an economic downturn

but... the gentrifying yuppies are hipsters this time around.

anti-hipsters = yuppies = hipsters = anti-hipsters

xposts I asked a french guy why was it that I didn't see any hipsters in Paris and he replied that they don't have hipsters, they have bobos (bourgeois boheme) and that *they existed since way longer*.

my username is an anagram for Hipsteer

i mean its not anxiety abou difference. its projection and jealousy and desire. i mean when i see a couple of kids and guess he's fucking her and she's taking pills or wearing a diaphragm, i know this is paradise. everyone old has dreamed all their lives -- bonds and gestures pushed to one side like an outdated combine harvester, and everyone young going down the long slide.

is nonreproductive sexual intercourse a hipster class trait

is youth/being a 'kid' a hipster class trait

can u have a family and still be a hipster

what if it's an "ironic family"

what if you "suck" as a parent but do so "on purpose"

that's exactly how I got my hipster cred, my son is so proud

Totally against the idea that "hipsters articles" are a smokescreen in order to avoid talking about economic problems. Heck it feels 80% of media only talks about how terrible the economy is everywhere and those "hipsters articles" is the stuff only NYT, the New Yorker and N+1 care about. If one is interrested in the economy he will be able to find his way quite easily without having to naviguate the treacherous sea of anti-hipsterism.

tbs, I agree with Hurting that a lot of anti-hipsterism is anxiety. Most of anti-something is anxiety.

I was about about to read Krugman's book and aww crap it was only N+1's article about Pitchfork, shoulda known better!

lol

I asked a french guy why was it that I didn't see any hipsters in Paris and he replied that they don't have hipsters, they have bobos (bourgeois boheme)

The French read David Brooks?

yeah. they just call him "le grand philosophe" over there.

it's been said a million times but the anti-hipster thing surely falls under the scrutiny of "taste" identified by Bourdieu et al. Anti-hipsterism is probably explained best by the same thing that explains hipsterism. Maybe it's all accelerated by an absence of agreed upon standards and traditions of taste, which only makes the need for careful discrimination that much more important. but you can accept a standard or reject it now and defend your "taste" in either case.

Dans les pays anglo-saxons, le terme d'« Hipster » est plus couramment utilisé pour désigner les codes culturels volontairement éclectiques et superficiels (mêlant des éléments de culture de masse à des éléments de contre-culture ainsi plus ou moins dépolitisés) de cette catégorie sociale plutôt issue des couches supérieures des classes moyennes. Il existe également de nombreuses variantes relativement proches : champagne socialist, neiman marxist, limousine liberal, DINKS (Double Income, No KidS, "Deux revenus et pas d'enfants".)

wuzzat, french wiki? and where are they getting the "radical leftist" part of their caricature?

(cf. http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/september/9.24.html )

had somehow never heard "neiman marxist"

limousine liberal?

neiman marxist is so much better than limousine liberal. i object to the phrase anyway, on the ground that it is impossible to live outside the capitalist system so all of its critics will be stained, somehow, by hypocrisy. it's just too easy an attack to lob at someone.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/13/us-public-policy-polling-hipster

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDs_yL2yj9g

Demythologizing Consumption Practices: How Consumers Protect Their Field-Dependent Identity Investments from Devaluing Marketplace Myths
http://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/656389
suggested by (lel,) le reddit
http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeIAmA/comments/1f2rbo/explain_hipters_to_me_like_im_a_hipster_and_youre/ca692vy

was this a real story? the hobo hipster fashion line? its from last year. i can't tell if its a real thing or not.

http://bushwickdaily.com/2012/11/bushwick-inspires-mens-fashion-line-its-about-time/

sorry if this was already covered...

Hipster chicken crisis

http://www.wrcbtv.com/story/22777081/backyard-chickens-dumped-at-shelters-when-hipsters-cant-cope-critics-say#.Udq-kM2cHe8.twitter

I like this line

"People don't know what they're doing," Britton Clouse said. "And you've got this whole culture of people who don't know what the hell they're doing teaching every other idiot out there."

So these people are basically accessorizing with or getting caught up in the fantasy of the self-image they'd like to project but when it comes down to dedicating themselves this deeply they chicken out. Probably happens often but the pun is the only unique element of this specific case, huh.

god, "humane farming" is a bullshit fantasy

"One of our hens grew up into a rooster and our neighbors are starting to complain. Do you know someone who might take him?"

I mean come on

I'll miss you, Henry...

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/4/28/1272450741733/Roast-chicken-006.jpg
Standard practice for egg-spent chickens.

"It's the stupid foodies," said Britton Clouse, 60, who admits she speaks frankly. "We're just sick to death of it."

sorry but i think that britton clouse person kind of sounds like an idiot

also see shit that looks like an onion article but isn't

She sounds awesome:

"People don't know what they're doing," Britton Clouse said. "And you've got this whole culture of people who don't know what the hell they're doing teaching every other idiot out there."

Is it just me that was thrown off by ",critics say" rounding off the headline?

i don't know, i don't live in NYC but most of the people i know who raise chickens aren't hipsters and know pretty well what they're doing

Obviously the woman who runs a chicken shelter in Minnesota disagrees with you.