2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

She should stay in the Senate. Better for policy wonks anyway.

Marc,

You say Obama will be closer to the victory.

Give me a break. This is the biggest fairy tale I have heard.

You do not want to roll the dice.

Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in 1984 and 1988. He was not close to the victory.

Give me a break. This is the biggest fairy tale I have heard.

Posted by eorse | February 29, 2008 4:49 PM

even so, his delegate lead is really slight

this is simply incorrect, particularly in regards to how many delegates are left to claim

lol

have you guys checked out hillaryis44.org? LOLZ FOR DAYS.

and its been noted many times that the superdelegates will feel obligated by both internal party pressure and external popular pressure to back the candidate with the majority of delegates. Hillary "winning" the nomination on the backs of superdelegates would be a colossally stupid move in terms of the GE, and the Democratic Party on the whole is aware of this.

you're right shakey, I just don't think we should count her out just yet.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN2964115720080229?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&rpc=22&sp=true

^ o has a lead in tx, gaining in ohio

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/02/mccains-liberal.html

^ mccain accidentally calls himself a liberal

Obama got what, like, 10 new superdelegate endorsements this week to Hillary's -2 since Super Tuesday? There's no f'ing way the superdelegates will toss the nomination to Hillary anyway. It's just stupid for her to stay in the race unless she wins huge next week.

hahahaha McCain is the gift that keeps on giving

though i get the sense that post-nyt-story, it won't do much as far as getting the right wing attack dogs on him xxp

big hoos you've done this a couple times now ... pretty sure those articles were both referenced upthread

OMG Hillary quits!

Ah, remember the internet on 2008?

big hoos you've done this a couple times now ... pretty sure those articles were both referenced upthread

-- deej, Friday, February 29, 2008 11:45 PM

yeah i guess in a thread like this it's a safe assumption everything gets covered by somebody at some point. i'll back off.

OMG

But Republicans said it was just the faintest preview of what voters are likely to see in a general election — whether from McCain, the Republican National Committee or an independent group.

"It's a love tap compared to the Wu-Tang fist of fury that's coming at this guy in the fall," said Rick Wilson, a Republican media consultant.

quote from here

and they wouldn't do anything like that if Hillary was the candidate? What IS the point of this republican "just you wait" thing with Obama?

More basketball metaphors on the way.

Even before the evening news, today's campaign news now is "New Clinton Ad Prompts Reply From Obama"

Whoever has the last word by printing deadline wins, and Obama's good at that game.

Yglesias is OTM here. It's pretty pathetic that HRC's top campaign advisors sashayed into a major conference call with the press on the heels of releasing that "3 am" television spot without being able to cite to a single significant nat'l security crisis that HRC has had to confront. Wasn't she a NY Senator during 9/11? Surely they could make something of that (tho, admittedly, in citing to 9/11 she'd be drawing from the same winning campaign playbook as Rudy Giuliani). But they didn't, which speak volumes.

i dont believe republican reps are aware enough of wu tang clan to have this be a ref. to obama's blackness. i think he literally meant it as a reference to the old movies

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/3277/weetangclanjl0.gif

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/29/acmecagle.jpg

lolz

awesome

*BREAKING* HIGHLY INFLUENCIAL SUPERDELEGATE SWITCHES TO OBAMA'S SIDE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qe0BPwWAxnk

-- The Brainwasher, Saturday, March 1, 2008 12:07 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Link

A+++

yeah well

Rolling US Economy Into The Shitbin Thread

carter ii at best?

huckabee 12?

oh no, will.i.am does it again. one of the people appearances was good for a lol, at least.

meanwhile, hillary wants you to know that she's gone off the deep end.

http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/01/dueling-videos-for-dueling-candidates-hit-the-web/

http://thepage.time.com/2008/03/01/ny-times-finds-no-meaningful-anti-clinton-pro-obama-bias-in-press/

Doesn't a montage of Nicholson villains seem...lazy?

I would love it if the Obama campaign responded with a William H. Macy montage.

It was funny but thousands of people have just been left with unappetizing mental pic of what Jack's 'morning salute' might consist of.

Yeah I love Nicholson but I think the fact that they've got "Col. William Jeffords" endorsing them speaks volumes.

"You snotty bastard..."

http://www.worldinprogress.org/wip/images/few_good_men.jpg

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/13446/thumbs/r-CLINTON-STRATEGY-large.jpg

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-are-letters-nig-on-childs-pajamas.html

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/3/2/105441/9335/675/467139

That blogger is an university professor, and she still believes in "subliminal messages to stimulate racist thoughts in the unsuspecting viewer"?! Doesn't she know the whole idea of subliminal messages had been proven invalid like decades ago?

Clift: She's running the testosterone campaign, he's running the estrogen campaign, and only a man can run the estrogen campaign.

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Btw, I wanted to ask a question about that Will.i.am Obama ad... Don't you think it's a bit scary, all those background voices constantly chanting "Obama", and the people in the ad joining them? To me it feels like there's a touch of something akin to religious fanaticism in it. Maybe it's just a matter of diffence in political cultures though? In here political ads tend to be more dry and matter-of-fact, and overt emotionalism is not usually seen as a good thing. Is that a typical American political ad?

It is a bit over-the-top even for American politics, Tuomas. And that's also been one of the Clinton campaign's favorite points of attack on the Obama campaign, with Clinton presenting herself as the more *rational* politician, although it doesn't seem to have worked that well.

Admittedly, I'm a bit put off by the Obama campaign style, but I like Obama and I just see his campaign as a necessary evil that's not really all that evil.

Although, to be fair, the Will.I.Am video is not an official campaign ad.

I just finished watching the last part of Century of the Self, which goes a lot into the transformation of American and British political campaigning from Reagan and Thatcher on, where political campaigns come to look much more like other forms of modern marketing, as opposed to the old model of trying to make what at least seems like rational argument for particular policy choices. Interestingly, Obama seems to have followed more in the footsteps of Bill Clinton in embracing that new style than Hillary Clinton has.

omg @ that pajamas thing

yeah. The first thing that comes to my mind when I see "N-I-C" is "Nice"

aw

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0308/8781.html

oooh, substantive

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/an-american-president-my-friend-barack-obama-790330.html

Falling Hillary

http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/hillary.htm

That's weird.