Mulholland Drive - theories please.

We'll see two more sequels if we do bad.

Let's hope he uses better digital cameras than on IE.

let's hope it's a shot-for-shot remake of The Room

well i assume he had some (relatively) long running story arc for these characters

that's good news

I'd kill for a TV series

I thought "Rabbits" was the sequel.

Britishers: The Observer gave away the DVD free today, and you can follow their liveblog of the film here

how quaint

David Lynch will open a Mulholland Drive-themed nightclub in Paris

lol at sophisticated nerve comments.

So long as there's nothing behind the dumpster, I'm okay with this...

pish idea.

good idea would be make another film.

I just saw a 35mm print of this and holy shit I never realized how clever and brilliant the sound editing is!!! Also, hearing "Llorando" booming soooooo loudly throughout the half-empty theater within the film and the half-empty theater in which I was watching the film was REALLY REALLY FUCKING INTESNE

Like when Weirdo Dude is at Winkie's talking w/ his shrink there is absolutely no background/ambient noise. There is a lot of silence in this film!

"Sum'n bit me BAD!"

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, January 4, 2010

I have to say it just occurred to me the other day how Adam Kesher in MD almost plays the viewer in the sense that he is like totally weirded out by how bizarre his circumstances are, partic w/ the Cowboy; he seems to echo the audience's sentiment of "what the fuck is going on here" when everyone else in the film is kind of acting like it's all normal

Does any other Lynch character sort of break the 4th wall in this regard?

― EMA Sumac (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 22 September 2014 16:25 (two years ago) Permalink

wow i have no recollection of writing this but i am impressed w/ past stevie's observation

I think this was p straightforward actually

Does any other Lynch character sort of break the 4th wall in this regard?

We'll see two more sequels if we do bad.

― kind of shrill and very self-righteous (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 00:46 (six years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A+

LJ itt is the lj that always annoyed everyone so much

Sorry man but hey at least it took me this long right

I just saw a 35mm print of this and holy shit I never realized how clever and brilliant the sound editing is!!!

Yeah, I can't watch Lynch without the sound cranked. How many people have totally missed the monkey whispering 'Judy' in FWWM?

One of my favourite sound editing moments IIRC is prior to the scene where Betty meets her grandparents; A phone rings and the sound delays and lingers until a sublime music cue cuts in. It's hard to explain to do it justice, but it's profoundly moving.

I never got that they were her grandparents although I guess that you are right

Betty meets her grandparents?

no

Fuck I haven't seen this movie in a long time, I'm referring to the scene where she arrives in Los Angeles with the elderly couple. Guess I got confused

http://www.mulholland-drive.net/cast/elderly.htm

Yes it makes sense that the old couple are her grandparents of the whole first 2/3rds is a fever dream.

Diane and Betty are different characters tho

are they though, are they really

Lol

Betty's just Diane's dream self, surely.

They're old people there's no suggestion that they exist at all let alone grandparent anybody

xp - i figure they're two sides of the actress archetype, one innocent, the other fallen

I know that darragh but most people in dreams are real versions of people we think about often.

Real is a strange word to use there.

there's no suggestion that they exist at all

they obviously exist because they're in a paper bag & then get all huge

"mulholland drive or avatar

― b'hurt's tauntin' (darraghmac), Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:21 (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink"

In OPO, so what was the worst film you ever saw? thread.

Betty is the viewer as actor, Diane is the actor as actor. I'm the guy by the dumpster

idg why anyone would assume the grandparent relationship, it doesnt match up w anything they do or say onscreen. Unless one just assumes they're grandparents because of the age difference beteeen them and Diane/Betty. The other theories in Ross's link make more sense imo.

I've come around on lynch btw

I'm sure he's relieved

I thought they just met on the plane because she seems like one of those excruciatingly naive and eager ppl who wd just make friends with other nice ppl on a plane for no reason?

Also standard lynch trope of nicey-nicey white America feeling horribly creepy and staged

I'm coming over to this grandparents thing.

They didn't meet on the plane because the plane and the old people we see aren't real, they are a fever-dream. So the old people are likely to be people Diane thinks of often.

Now I have that suggested to me it makes little sense that they are just "old people" because they are likely to be people she knows well in her real past.

But everyone's roles in her fever dream are mixed up - so why would her actual grandparents be sn exception

And why would she be flying on a plane w her grandparents and then ditch them to go stay at her aunt's.

I don't think they're an exception, I just think that people turn up in your dreams that you're close to but not in the relationship you have them in in your daily life.

While her grandparents are not 100% confirmed, it's a possibility - and comes up in many interpretations of the movie. Another one here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0166924/faq

It's Lynch - I think you can read it either way, his movies are good for that.

ok in the first 2h of the movie they're she met on the plane
in ✌️️"real life"✌️️ yeah idk they're prob her grandparents, w/e

I never bought the dream/real life distinction where this movie is concerned. I think it's about the interaction of Hollywood archetypes, powers & players (first 2/3) and the movie that eventually results (last 1/3).

i think this movie was about Oliver North