The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

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Not incredible. But very good. Too violent, too wise-cracking for me. A bit of the humor fell flat, but the action stuff was really edge-of-your seat stuff. It seems a dozen times more ambitious than any other Pixar project, and the only trade-off was that the intimacy and endearing slow-pace of the other films is totally dropped in a gonzo-off-the-wall breakneck speed.

Good times, otherwise.

― Remy

I can't believe how consistent Pixar has been. I'm always ready to write them off and end up being completely blown away by everything they do.

This is great. The animation is unbelievable, the voice acting is terrific (Heather Hunter and Sarah Vowell, whom I have a huge crush on, in particular.)

Definitely one of the best movies I've seen this year.

― stephen morris

OH MAN WAS THE INCREDIBLES FUN. It basically hit on everything I loved about Modernist visual design ca. 1955-1975 (the villain's hideout, the copious usage of Eurostile font and the '63 Stingray/XKE/Mercedes 300SL-derived car Mr. Incredible drove in a couple scenes almost gave me aneurysms of joy). And in a naive innocent Who's-Ayn-Rand-wossa-libertarian-tort-reform-huh? mindset (like the one I went into this movie with, in total 'block all depressing conservatism for sanity's sake' mode) then it's a great, simple story about the benefits of nonconformity and America's sad obsession with rendering heroes mortal (see: every modern athlete ever). And it reminded me of Watchmen.

― nate patrin

was dragged to this by a friend. was actually shocked by how much fun this was.

photo realistic computer animation is a long ways off, as underlined by that repellent 'Polar Express' trailer. but this movie points towards an amazing hyper-realism that I haven't seen in a pixar film yet. characters that are markedly different sizes, convincingly moving around in the same space -- it gets to your head, it involves you.

the one mom/daughter moment outside the cave was nice and I felt a little heart tug, then realized I'm staring at a 'character' whose eyes occupy almost the entire top half of her head and her nose is the size of a pea, and I FLIPPED OUT

― (Jon L)

I might have missed it, but no comparisons to James Bond yet on this thread? The film *screamed* Bond homage after a certain point, invoking a ton of the tropes -- the (ha-hem) 'cartoonish' death of various evil underlings, the design of the base (very VERY You Only Live Twice), the elegant dining room-in-impossible-setting, the 'female henchwoman who goes over to the good side' (though not in traditional Bond fashion, of course), the ending that's not quite THE ending, and absolutely the music. To be sure a lot of Bond-in-film's approach is a realization of comic hyperdrama so it's not a real surprise, but I think it's clearly a thread throughout.

Did anyone else like the slightly bizarre but fun Jack Lemmon/Walter Matthau 'Odd Couple' cameo at the end? Really didn't expect it and I don't think it had any context but it was sure fun.

The movie is definitely an indictment of evil fanboy obsessiveness more than anything else. ;-)

― Ned Raggett

I just saw The Incredibles and it was very good!

#21

The Incredibles
Brad Bird
2004
United States
(524.5 points, 24 votes, 1 first place)

"interestingly" enough, 4m/3w/2d was far from the lowest ranking film that had more than one #1 vote.

which lower placing film got 2 #1 votes?

ranking does not equate to placing in the top 100.

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very interesting if a film outside the hundred did.

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― jed

otm btw

If I recall correctly, sarahel had the same #1 as me, and it didn't make the top 100.

Hate to say it, but table was right about Pixar. Enough.

fucking Pixar garbage

i sometimes feel like the only human being on planet earth who doesn't like pixar

hahaha xposts

it's 2010 we don't need to pretend to like iranian cinema anymore

joeks, plenty iranian films I like

No doubt two more Pixar movies still to come in the top 20.

worst movie fuck this republican bullshit in the eye

< / speculation, sorry omar >

fucking America.

lol pixar backlash

*burns flag*

the superbad & departed screen caps are maybe my favorite two so far

"pineapple express" is my favorite apatow clan bcuz of franco/mcbride

pixar is so universally loved that of COURSE a vocal segment of the ilx population hates it

"interestingly" enough, 4m/3w/2d was far from the lowest ranking film that had more than one #1 vote.

my guess is a "joe" film.

it's like the biggest contrarian target ever. xp

otm

4m/3w/2d is so good, sad it didn't place

what?

it's got nothing to do with contrarianism. talking to me about cgi animated movies is like talking to one of those dj snobs who gets apopletic whenever laptop mixing comes up.

it was at 22, cozen

I'm not actually following the poll, just commenting blindly

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I feel there have to have been about 10 ballots that were just all Pixar movies and nothing else.

very interesting if a film outside the hundred did.

I kinda suspect one of these is Songs from the Second Floor, which was my #1 vote, and a couple more people seemed to rate it quite high, but it looks like this wasn't enough for it to crack the top 100.

i like pixar, just h8 the incredibles, to clarify

the things that people find ejoyable in Pixar movies just don't move me - the technical wonder of CGI, adult-level wink-and-nod jokes snuck into the context of a children's film, the fact that even though they're ostensibly childrens' films they aren't just straight sentimental subliterate garbage. I dunno, I just don't get it. And we've already been over the questionable Atlas Shrugged subtext of this particular pile of crap...

could be actually

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@tuomas

every pixar movie is great, even the ones that i haven't seen

i like pixar, just h8 the incredibles, to clarify

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I voted four Pixar films (Ratatouille, Wall-E, The Incredibles + Finding Nemo), and three non-Pixar animated films (Spirited Away, Waltz with Bashir and Persepolis).

I feel there have to have been about 10 ballots that were just all Pixar movies and nothing else.

I voted for almost every pixar movie.

the things that people find ejoyable in Pixar movies just don't move me - the technical wonder of CGI, adult-level wink-and-nod jokes snuck into the context of a children's film, the fact that even though they're ostensibly childrens' films they aren't just straight sentimental subliterate garbage. I dunno, I just don't get it. And we've already been over the questionable Atlas Shrugged subtext of this particular pile of crap...

― mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:26 PM (39 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

pixar is so not guilty of "adult pop cult reference" kids' movie humour

and incredibles is still the best pixar imo

It's marginally better than Cars.

I've liked most Pixar films I've seen, but The Incredibles was kinda politically dodgy and needlessly violent. I was disappointed that Brad Bird made this after the wonderfully pacifist Iron Giant.

i just enjoy drawing. still. i'm an old man.

The Incredibles was kinda politically dodgy
― Tuomas, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:28 PM (2 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Suddenly I love The Incredibles.

I hate superhero movies with 'needless violence'

What Incredibles needed was more Vin Diesel.

are all Pixar films created equal though? Is there a Pixar aesthetic*?

*I just imagined some film school grad writing a thesis called "The Pixar Aesthetic."

adult pop cult reference" kids' movie humour

I didn't say anything about adult pop culture...?

Actually has Vin Diesel done any cartoon voices outside of Iron Giant?

adult-level wink-and-nod jokes snuck into the context of a children's film

not really my experience from watching Pixar films, tbh

up, walle, nemo, whatevs

ilx 2000s best of-thread -- the place where people love superbad and hate on pixar.

"adult-level-wink-and-nod jokes snuck into.. a children's film" is not Pixar at all. you're mixing up your stereotypical attacks - those should be directed at the dreamworks movies, who thrive on sexual innuendo and dry, dumb adult jokes inbetween wholly original concepts. pixar movies are good because they don't creat a wall between kids jokes and adult jokes, kids adventure narratives and adult adventure narratives, kids movie emotions and 'real' emotions. they make animated movies in fantasy settings. otherwise they're not 'ostensibly childrens' films' any more than any other g-rated movies

+ btw, Shakey, without all the paratext, my issue with the film wouldn't be the irrationality. it would be that it just sucks and seems to throw in random bullshit that doesn't effect or move me at all.

this goes back to my style exercise point - if you don't like the film's style, you're going to hate it. your hatred of donnie darko is similar to my reaction to magnolia, the royal tennebaums, and a bunch of other indie favorites that rub me the wrong way.

ok I'll let y'all get on with yr pixar bitching now