I just saw The Incredibles and it was very good!

The plot, character development and sequence of events are almost nonexistent. The ending comes way too soon, and there's no meat to keep the viewer's interest. Minimalist expressionism went out in the 20th century, and a revival of this nature isn't likely to turn heads. Sadly lacking effort.

Overall: A disappointment. 2/10

Good times, otherwise.

yay!

Anyway, release date today! I am going to try and see it this weekend if I can.

This is great. The animation is unbelievable, the voice acting is terrific (Heather Hunter and Sarah Vowell, whom I have a huge crush on, in particular.)

Definitely one of the best movies I've seen this year.

(Actually, I take that back -- the first beatdown I got was when I said "wire [the band]= snooze," but I sorta knew I was asking for it then.)

O CHARLOTTE
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1) This is the way forward for a Nexus movie.
2) A Pixar film of Hal Clement's "A Mission of Gravity" would rock SO HARD.

That said, I thought the pursuit of Dash on the island was pretty weak. Too much Endor and too much Myst.

Everything she has done on This American Life is golden.

As for the movie, yeah. One of my new favorite superhero movies, I've decided. Very funny and very exciting, even if, as noted above, all the action sequences seemed derivative of something else, be it Lucas or Spiderman.

But this is the first Pixar movie I've actually wanted to see in the theaters, which is actually a great leap forward in expectation right there. Intellectually I understand the regard for Pixar but in terms of entertainment I've rarely felt a 'must see' urge about them, though when I've caught things here and there later they do always seem good fun (I mean, aside from casting Billy Fucking Crystal as a lead once, but oh well). Then again I'm not an Iron Giant cultist either, maybe this is a case where Bird and Pixar and all that combines perfectly for me!

It has to do with the wishes of the author of the story, who when he sold it, stipulated that it not be animated. Zemekis and pals got around this with a flimsy loophole -- it's not "animated," it's live-acted! Look! See?!

It really does look terrible, though. Unspeakably bad. I have played video games that look *way* better than that preview.

The best thing about it: In-jokes for East Bay folk!

YES! The design was astounding, and confirmed for me in the most positive possible way that modernism is back, and not as kitsch. The fonts! OMG the fonts!

xpost: Elastigirl looked like Earl Campbell from the waist down.

Did anyone else get that Winnie the Pooh preview? I'm still laughing that they're using that Spin Doctors song in it .. I guess that's to attract the soccer moms & dads - because they kind of remember that song back from before their lives were ruined by having kids.

So yeah, The Incredibles was indeed pretty incredible. It had some of the best action sequences I've seen all year. I loved Samuel Jackson as FROZONE. Also, I took my son who now claims he IS Dash, and has been running ridiculously fast ever since we left the theater.

About strobing, or about the short?

There's no way the short gets a warning, as fucked up and weird as it is. I bet we're talking about the strobing.

More I think about this movie, less I like it. Just kind of a predictable mess, albeit a ... highly competent mess? Would have been satisfied with Jack-Jack v. raccoon standalone short.

there was a note about the strobing.

the short: it's just a metaphor. I agree that moment was ... shocking but also funny? yeesh you guys.

She missed her son, so she imagined a life with a bun-son ... and then eats him, the relationship ending (metaphorically) the same way as her relationship with her real son? I guess what makes it awkward/confusing is that her real son still looks like a bun-son, and also that we never find out what left them estranged. Might have needed a beat at the beginning to establish her son was MIA.

Maybe I missed it. I miss a lot. Like the plan/motive of the villain in "The Incredibles 2."

jesus calsters why did you even see this movie?

i don't believe it was that she missed her son. you see the life of the son growing up with him as a dumpling because that's how she perceived him. the 'eating' him moment was just the point where her over-protectiveness reaches it's peak.

So why were they estranged? I almost got the impression that it was because he brought home a westerner! They make a point of showing them bonding at the end, when the son makes messy bao and his wife makes perfect bao.

Anyway, I didn't like it. And the eating was a fucked up metaphor made more fucked up by the fact that the actual son looked exactly like a bun. Would have been better if the bun-son left and the short flashed back to her at the table, staring at the suddenly mundane bun, then sadly eating it. Then the husband seeing her sad and making a phone call and the *real* son showing up to comfort his sad mom. Something like that. The way it is, too jarring and weird and unnecessarily elliptical. Imo. Obviously my audience was not the only one that reacted in horror.

having seen Dementia 13 three days earlier, I enjoyed the "Dementia 113" joke.

Apparently the 113 is a reference to a classroom in the California Institute of the Arts? Apparently there are lots of references to "113" in this and other animated shows and movies.

A-113 is the like classic Pixar Easter egg yes.

OK really who cares about Bao, because the main attraction is GREBT. Unfortunately, noticeably unwoke, too.

Better than the Randian sociopathy of the first one!

can't believe a Pixar movie is unwoke

First one isn't fully fleshed objectivism, though, as it characterizes private corporations as inclined to evil (Syndrome, Bob's insurance company) and the government as sympathetic (the G-man who's a decent guy just doing his job). That said, I can buy that Bird probably has inchoate views that veer toward social Darwinism.

It's not about them being coherent Randians, just having general shitty instincts

Lisp of adult elastic girl was so grating

can't tell if that is a joke or not.

Not

That's just how Holly Hunter talks.

She has been appearing in successful, internationally-distributed films for 30 years, and also played "adult Elasti-Girl" in The Incredibles.

Ha, I thought he was talking about Sarah Vowell, who has one of the most famous funny-sounding/annoying voices.

Was it a joke someone made here? Anyway. Someone noted that Holly Hunter's two most famous roles are now for one where she appears and does not talk and one where she talks but does not appear.

I didn't love the first Incredibles, but I'm tentatively excited about this one because - is this the first Pixar movie in 10 years that won't make me bawl like a shithead?

I fucking love a good cry but Pixar movies make me nervous now because I'm always waiting for *that* scene

Not including Cars because I don't count them in my Pixar mind-canon

I sincerely hope this one does not make you cry. It's totally goofy.

You will cry tears of laughter.

Tears of indifference.

Tears of remonstration.

At least Toy story had a shining reference

Does the first movie have as many obvious '60s signifiers as the sequel does? My memory of it placed it as contemporary.

Yeah, a slew of 'em.

So this was the Cineworld's secret screening number 8 (most of the theatre cheered, I was just happy as it could have been a lot worse) and ya silby the nominative determinism ruined this a little on watching. Still I laughed a fair few times.

Didn't really think anyone needed the Guy Fierri biog that was Bao.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/voyd-from-incredibles-2-looks-like-kristen-stewart-2018-6

Man! I thought this to the point where I convinced myself she was actually the model for the character. Even the mannerisms seemed v awkward Stewart-esque.

Voyd's a good character with a good haircut

she didn't look or act anything like kristen stewart, people just make shit up

just like how anthony lane’s review of this sounds like he woke up from a sex nightmare

this is off topic but how the hell did Anthony Lane get his job

That makes me want to read his review (and then hate myself for doing so). xp

prescient post

OTM. Has Anthony Lane weighted in yet?
― Remy (x Jeremy), Wednesday, November 10, 2004

I think Lane is funny, though I frequently get the sense that the jokes come before the review.

there's a whole separate department in the New Yorker for jokes

That review is just Lane being Lane - I don't get the tizz at all. It's just basic seaside smut.

true i guess he is always exactly that bad

i've read worse erotic incredibles fanfiction, but i'm not sure the new yorker is the proper venue for it

Finally looked up the hubbub, and ... don't care. But it did ring a bell that Lane sexualized her in his review of the first movie as well:

Years ago, Bob and Helen Parr were superheroes—Mr. Incredible and Elastigirl. He was mostly knuckles and chin, whereas she was as limber as it is possible to be without consulting the Kama Sutra.

Wow the Kama Sutra what a quip “Anthony Lane”

Loved this: http://joshholtsclaw.com/blog/2018/3/5/the-graphic-art-of-incredibles-2

when Screen Slaver had their jump scare reveal, someone in the theatre got so scared they ripped a fart and the entire audience started laughing. ruined the moment a lil.

something something fascism Rand

that’s what happens when you eat beans

everybody farts, which is just another way of saying nobody does