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i swear the new york times runs this SAME story every 6 months. they just change some names. it's just like their: HEY, beer isn't just Budweiser anymore, don't ya know! and that old chestnut: HEY, chocolate/hot dogs/hamburgers/something else stupid that only children used to eat isn't just for kids anymore, now its fancy and stuff!

oh well, what are you gonna do. here's today's version:

Returning to Music’s Old Home
By Michael Wilson

Those flat, round, black things with the hole in the middle that your father keeps stacked in his man cave — they’re called vinyl records. Back in the day, when the “desktop computer” was a calculator and downloading was something dump trucks did, people played music on records.

But here’s the thing: the day is back. Record-store owners say vinyl sales are up, and classic albums are being reissued. And the place to go for records new and old is still the East Village, an accessible place served by the 6 train at Astor Place and other lines. Nostalgia and cutting-edge share space at these stores, often in the basement, both literally and in price.

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh my god I hate these fucking stories

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:08 (nine years ago) Permalink

oh and there is a map of record stores and a slideshow but i can't seem to get it online right now.

the comments are good too:

I was someone who grew up with vinyl. The upside to the format was that there often was magic in the album cover graphics and photo. There was so much that could be conveyed in that 12″ x 12″ frame.

However, let’s be serious: the quality was sub-par and if you didn’t store the album correctly, it warped and was ruined.

If you like the idea of playing album ’sides’ here’s a thought: just let your CD play for 6 songs, take a 1 minute pause to recreate the concept of ‘flipping’ an album, then continue on.

Why anyone would want to buy new or re-issued music on vinyl is beyond me.

— Ken Douglas

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:09 (nine years ago) Permalink

why do they ALWAYS have to start with: HEY REMEMBER THOSE BIG ROUND THINGS WITH THE HOLE IN THE MIDDLE?

is it, like, a law or something.

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

i hate amy:

i find it very interesting how generations tend to repeat history. it used to be that each decade was known for something, known for a certain style or particular music, and that was very much true for the 50’s 60’s 70’s 80’s and even the 90’s but ever since the millenium nothing truly original has surfaced. on the contrary from the years2000-2010 the decade will most likely be remembered as the years that “brought it back”. almost anything from clothes sneakers and music has resurfaced bringing us back to a time which half this generation missed. within the last few years ive heard my grandmother say on numerous occasions “i remember when i used to listen to this as a little girl” and other things like that. so basically it comes to no surprise to me that records are coming back in style. besides everything is accepted in the village, theres no better place to find a wide variety of arts and style than the east village, which fortunately is a nice short 6 train ride away. :)

— amy

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:11 (nine years ago) Permalink

Jerrod Ripshire, 26, says that vinyl records "just sound better." But it's not just 20-something hipsters indulging in a love of all things retro. In the age of iTunes, some of the most popular bands now release their latest albums on vinyl.

ENERGY FOOD (en i see kay), Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

these stories are just made for those people i come across occasionally who, when i casually mention buying a record, incredulously ask, "OMG THEY STILL MAKE RECORDS? LOL!"

omar little, Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

okay, here's the slideshow:

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2009/10/11/nyregion/20091011_stops_ss_index.html

scott seward, Sunday, 11 October 2009 23:14 (nine years ago) Permalink

Scott, can you link to the entire article? All I find on line are those graphs you copied above (searched Wilson's name and everything), and in Texas we don't get a Metro Section in our copy of the Sunday Times.

xhuxk, Monday, 12 October 2009 00:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

i can't get it online either. maybe that's all there is? i didn't actually buy the paper today. my dad emailed me about the story.

scott seward, Monday, 12 October 2009 01:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/nyregion/11stop.html

fakeducks, Tuesday, 13 October 2009 14:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

meanwhile, i missed this story and its actually good:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/30/arts/music/30private.html

scott seward, Thursday, 15 October 2009 03:17 (nine years ago) Permalink

i like ben sisario.

scott seward, Thursday, 15 October 2009 03:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

How long do you all think this "resurgence" will last for?

kshighway1, Thursday, 15 October 2009 03:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

“You’re going to buy this,” he says pointing to the CD that he’d just stuck into the store’s player a few moments earlier. “Relatively Clean Rivers. You don’t know it, and it rules.”

Say what? Relatively Clean Rivers? Is that a band or a half-hearted EPA slogan? Surely Mr. Pass will take a pass.

But no, he throws his debit card on the counter without hesitation.

“Rock on man,” he says. “That’s exactly what I was looking for.”

And then he’s off, to hit the road, no more than two minutes after he arrived.

“You just witnessed a transcendental Love Garden moment,” Corcoran said to a visitor. “Those are our favorite moments, when somebody just comes in and says ‘help me.’ He didn’t have to spend an hour researching it on the Internet, and he wouldn’t have found it anyway.”

pretty sure relatively clean rives is pretty easy to find via google.

but still, that guy is a lot cooler than Best Buy employee (in a different article.)

ian, Thursday, 15 October 2009 04:06 (nine years ago) Permalink

tsk, promoting radioactive/phoenix releases is bad juju

get up and use(rna)me (electricsound), Thursday, 15 October 2009 05:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

on the other hand, that's a boss LP

get up and use(rna)me (electricsound), Thursday, 15 October 2009 05:22 (nine years ago) Permalink

the "amy" comment above makes me want to slit my wrists

amateurist, Thursday, 15 October 2009 19:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

y it’s in my apartment. They said, ‘Can we come over?’ I said sure.” Mr. Heaps, 45, still sounds bitter about the demise of his store. “Jammyland ruined me,” he said. “I gave it 16 years of my life. It ruined two marriages. I have nothing to show for it.”

:-(

i just to enjoy shopping there.

amateurist, Thursday, 15 October 2009 19:41 (nine years ago) Permalink

Some terrible memes associated with these articles: cds are cold, sterile, soulless objects, the crackle of a well-worn record is what makes it so relatable & loved, etc.

I'm gonna start running a service where for a small fee I can lovingly add some scratches to your pristine records. Maybe sprinkle some dust on there.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

just wait, give people time and the CD will become a fetish object as well.

amateurist, Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:07 (nine years ago) Permalink

"remember those mix CDs we used to make back in middle school?"

ian, Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:12 (nine years ago) Permalink

If everyone gets nostalgic for *skipping* cds then the cycle is complete.

lou reed scott walker monks niagra (chinavision!), Thursday, 15 October 2009 20:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

"remember those mix CDs we used to make back in middle school?"

judging by the undergrads i teach, this sort of nostalgia is already with us.

amateurist, Thursday, 15 October 2009 23:55 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

it's like deja vu all over again:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/07/nyregion/07vinyl.html

scott seward, Monday, 7 December 2009 14:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

wait, hmv, tower, and virgin are all gone? when did hmv close?

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

(in manhattan)

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:37 (nine years ago) Permalink

i sort of hate the vinyl revival. how all these nonrational justifications for liking vinyl become repeated and repeated as nostrums by sales reps. some of which, as chinavision posted above, is just ridiculous.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

"i dunno, vinyl just has that certain... something. something that connects us back to the real things. to our youth. or if not to our youth, then to the real. yeah. it's like, big. you can see the pretty pictures. also it sounds real. and stuff. buy some more."

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:40 (nine years ago) Permalink

shoot me if i ever make those sort of arguments.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

well, no, don't. but take me to task.

figuratively, but in a very real way (amateurist), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

ok, as long as you dont ask me for my actual reasons

69, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 01:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

i think for me it kinda boils down to "a man needs a hobby" and mine just happens to be collecting records because i love music. vinyl over CD started as a practical thing tbh, cuz when i was a little punk rock lovin teenage kid i wanted to buy 7"s by local bands and shit cuz they were cheaper than CDs, or maybe even the only available product. i still find a lot of things I love on vinyl that are not available on CD, and also the affordability is major. go buy 6 great records for $25 or whatever vs two or three CDs--things like neil young albums, prince albums, stevie wonder albums, are so available and so cheap. it's great for poor youngsters.

ian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

classical records for a dime! cds ain't got nothin on that.

ian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:32 (nine years ago) Permalink

some days I wish I did vinyl instead of cds, but some days i don't

justin timberlane (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

plus who wants to buy used CDs? they always look all cruddy and beat up and you feel like an idiot paying more than a dollar for one. six dollars for a used cd? gimme a break. sell it to me for 50 cents and i might buy it. i only buy CDs at thrift stores and only if they are in pristine condition. even salvation army is too pricey. $1.99 a cd. but every once in a while i pick up some good indian music or folk/blues/classical.

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:00 (nine years ago) Permalink

i can find mint/pristine classical vinyl that is FIFTY years old for a dollar, but the snoop dog cd you want to sell me at the cd shop looks like snoop took a crap on it and you want five bucks? yhgtbkm!

scott seward, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:03 (nine years ago) Permalink

you can't keep vinyl in binders, makes it harder to steal iirc.

ian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

except those 45 binders i guess.

ian, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 16:19 (nine years ago) Permalink

There was a feature on CBC (Canadian News) on vinyl resurgence. There was a lot of footage taken at the record store I frequent most, and I'm pretty sure I was there when they were filming, but didn't watch the feature long enough to see if I was there.

EDB, Tuesday, 22 December 2009 02:56 (nine years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

my momz sent me this article in the mail. seniors no what's up:

http://www.aarpmagazine.org/lifestyle/vinyl-records-back.html

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:54 (nine years ago) Permalink

But here's my theory: it's the unique imperfections of each vinyl record that make it irreplaceable. After enough plays, a record becomes a fingerprint of your listening experience. Just about everyone who owned the Beatles' White Album wore the thing down to a nub. Your copy, like mine, is a crackling mess through "Cry Baby Cry"—but then it becomes a mint-condition collector's item the moment that unlistenable jumble of sounds the Lads called "Revolution 9" fades in.

fightin' words!

sleeve, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:35 (nine years ago) Permalink

your copy is an individual fingerprint of your unique listening experience and sounds the exact same as mine

they are like snowflakes

dmr, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 03:10 (nine years ago) Permalink

hahahahaha that is a totally LOL takedown of rev#9 though by AARP

69, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 18:46 (nine years ago) Permalink

"The cracks and the little imperfections that pop up seem to enhance the music. It's a way of experiencing music rather than just consuming it."

ffs will people stop saying this baloney

guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:52 (nine years ago) Permalink

yeah, no one wants beat up records!

Joint Custody (ian), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

i need to get another copy of this, not enough snaps crackles or pops

guammls (QE II), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

the cracks and imperfections is why I buy 85% of my music on CD iirc

ben bernankles (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 23:59 (nine years ago) Permalink

along with the rest of the world

guammls (QE II), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 00:02 (nine years ago) Permalink

geezer alert!
lolol

Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 30 September 2013 15:10 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

better than the usual article, some interesting stats in there

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 January 2014 15:10 (five years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

http://oakpark.suntimes.com/news/rsd-FPH-04192014:article

A line of people stood waiting at the register of Val’s halla Records in Oak Park the morning of April 19, most with records in their hands.

That’s right, records; those black, round objects about the size of a dinner plate. First supplanted by the 8-tracks, cassette tapes, then smaller compact disks and later by the invisible digital downloads.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 21 April 2014 22:04 (four years ago) Permalink

and soon by ponos.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 21 April 2014 22:40 (four years ago) Permalink

Val's halla Records in Oak Park

mattresslessness, Monday, 21 April 2014 22:47 (four years ago) Permalink

in Oak Park

mattresslessness, Monday, 21 April 2014 22:47 (four years ago) Permalink

Oak Park

mattresslessness, Monday, 21 April 2014 22:47 (four years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

that's pretty interesting - I wonder if those are really "new" presses, or just refurbished ones cobbled together from old ones?

RSD-rolled (sleeve), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 19:07 (four years ago) Permalink

four weeks pass...

lol of course the only contemporary records were Super Session and a Vanilla Fudge LP

polyamanita (sleeve), Thursday, 5 June 2014 23:59 (four years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

better than usual article:

http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9467-wax-and-wane-the-tough-realities-behind-vinyls-comeback/

sleeve, Friday, 1 August 2014 16:50 (four years ago) Permalink

i laughed at the anecdote about how many bands want to put blood in their records.

mizzell, Friday, 1 August 2014 19:20 (four years ago) Permalink

apparently the perfect pussy album actually did, maybe it was a different plant to that quoted

doodle cock-up (electricsound), Saturday, 2 August 2014 02:43 (four years ago) Permalink

that story is completely insane.

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 11 August 2014 03:16 (four years ago) Permalink

it really is

sleeve, Monday, 11 August 2014 14:48 (four years ago) Permalink

haha yeah it was wild. I liked it.

dmr, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 01:46 (four years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

local newspaper reporter came in and told me he wants to do a store on vinyl is back. full circle. like a record.

scott seward, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 19:32 (four years ago) Permalink

“There is a cultural slowing-down where people can sit in the same room at the same time and have something playing that they all can listen to.”

b/c there's no way to do that with any other music format!

these articles almost make me want to burn all my vinyl records.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 21:34 (four years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

You look disappointed with the article surrounding you.

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 20 December 2014 21:21 (four years ago) Permalink

"Lovers of vinyl have their reasons"

nerve_pylon, Saturday, 20 December 2014 22:12 (four years ago) Permalink

aw, congrats on that story scott!

Ottbot jr (NickB), Saturday, 20 December 2014 22:16 (four years ago) Permalink

What the heck is an album and why would I want one?

tokyo rosemary, Saturday, 20 December 2014 23:42 (four years ago) Permalink

I think it's part of an egg

Pooja Bhatt's erotic thriller Jism 2 (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 21 December 2014 01:05 (four years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

This is good news: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/03/quality-record-pressing-vinyl-demand/24289315/

schwantz, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 16:58 (three years ago) Permalink

its the HOT STAMPER dude - http://www.wired.com/2015/03/hot-stampers/

just sayin, Wednesday, 4 March 2015 21:45 (three years ago) Permalink

fuckin' audio oenophiles

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:03 (three years ago) Permalink

here come the hot stamper

don't ask me why i posted this (electricsound), Wednesday, 4 March 2015 22:24 (three years ago) Permalink

I've seen two medicine commercials with record shoppin' scenes.

Flow-through nonresident pass-through entity (los blue jeans), Saturday, 7 March 2015 04:23 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

That's rad. Feel like I could make a better one. Would anyone buy it?

schwantz, Monday, 13 April 2015 21:59 (three years ago) Permalink

Stereo would be tough.

schwantz, Monday, 13 April 2015 22:00 (three years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

record libraries are newsworthy now? this is a strange place in as much as it's a beautiful building containing not really all that many records:

http://www.factmag.com/2015/05/28/seoul-music-library-understage-vinyl-library/

mortal boomkat (NickB), Thursday, 28 May 2015 15:54 (three years ago) Permalink

one year passes...

aaaaaagh kill me now

"the warm and wonderful crackle of vinyl was finally fighting back against cold, compressed MP3s"

https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2016/dec/09/vinyl-record-sales-up-but-indie-labels-dont-see-benefit

(article is actually OK imo)

sleeve, Saturday, 10 December 2016 16:37 (two years ago) Permalink

In April 2015, when Sonic Cathedral joined forces with Bristol agent provocateurs Howling Owl to begin our Record Store Day Is Dying campaign, we flippantly suggested that every day should be a record store day.

hmm, where have I heard this before?

Lee626, Saturday, 10 December 2016 18:08 (two years ago) Permalink

seven months pass...

it's over, y'all

https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-vinyls-boom-is-over-1500721202

sleeve, Sunday, 23 July 2017 15:33 (one year ago) Permalink

When is the "hiding your dumb vinyl story behind a paywall" boom gonna end tho

Puke and Other Poems (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 24 July 2017 02:16 (one year ago) Permalink

Repost here (scroll down a bit):

http://www.reddit.com/r/vinyl/comments/6oxff7/why_vinyls_boom_is_over_gillian_welch_david/?st=j5gv5hhr

Lee626, Monday, 24 July 2017 11:16 (one year ago) Permalink

https://www.channelnews.com.au/vinyl-sales-slump-quality-blamed/

In the first half of 2015, sales of vinyl records jumped 38% compared to the same period the prior year, to 5.6 million units, Nielsen Music data show.

A year later, growth slowed to 12%. This year, sales rose a modest 2%. “It’s flattening out,” says Steve Sheldon, president of Los Angeles pressing plant Rainbo Records. While he doesn’t see a bubble bursting—plants are busy—he believes vinyl is “getting close to plateauing.”

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 15:17 (one year ago) Permalink

Old LPs were cut from analog tapes—that’s why they sound so high quality. But the majority of today’s new and re-issued vinyl albums—around 80% or more, several experts estimate—start from digital files, even lower-quality CDs. These digital files are often loud and harsh-sounding, optimized for ear-buds, not living rooms. So the new vinyl LP is sometimes inferior to what a consumer hears on a CD.

“They’re re-issuing [old albums] and not using the original tapes” to save time and money, says Michael Fremer, editor of AnalogPlanet.com and one of America’s leading audio authorities. “They have the tapes. They could take them out and have it done right—by a good engineer. They don’t.”

As more consumers discover this disconnect, vinyl sales are starting to slow. In the first half of 2015, sales of vinyl records jumped 38% compared to the same period the prior year, to 5.6 million units, Nielsen Music data show. A year later, growth slowed to 12%. This year, sales rose a modest 2%. “It’s flattening out,” says Steve Sheldon, president of Los Angeles pressing plant Rainbo Records. While he doesn’t see a bubble bursting—plants are busy—he believes vinyl is “getting close to plateauing.”

is this really the reason vinyl sales are slowing, that newer vinyl consumers are realizing the source is digital, not analog? i doubt it. later on it says another reason is the high cost of vinyl and that maybe seems more likely to me. people maybe getting tired of paying $30-$40 for an album

marcos, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:05 (one year ago) Permalink

I do think more people are aware of the "4 Men With Beards" style of crap CD-sourced pressings. But I'd imagine the stupid prices factor into it as well. Also, not as cool as it used to be, thankfully.

sleeve, Tuesday, 25 July 2017 16:10 (one year ago) Permalink

three months pass...

(not a serious article)

sleeve, Friday, 10 November 2017 00:20 (one year ago) Permalink


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