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J0hn D., Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

lololololol

J0hn D., Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

"The very best sound was obtained when I slightly loosened the screws on the Duplex Covers. And they sound great!!.

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morris pavilion, Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

lolololol

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

every product on the site is like New Hope for the Ape-Eared

J0hn D., Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

i love that website! check out this fancy table: http://machinadynamica.com/machina25.htm

it's supposed to isolate your amplifier from vibrations, "especially the 0 -10 Hz variety produced by Earth's crust movement, traffic, subways, tides, etc. "

how a spring could cancel out waves slower than 1 Hz?

elan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

but the best is this "teleportation tweak"
http://machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm

elan, Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

everything on there is great but I'm still standing by the Tru-Tone Duplex cover as the most balls-out

J0hn D., Sunday, 18 November 2007 01:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh wait though codename turquoise is pretty fucking rad

J0hn D., Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Brilliant Pebbles is my favorite one on that site i think

ciderpress, Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

From cidepress' link, this was amusing:

"Where most audiophiles would agree, however, is that tweaks are a minor aspect of system building. Defined by the dictionary in Microsoft Word® as "a slight adjustment or change in..."

italics mine.

Clay, Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://machinadynamica.com/water.gif for brains

scott seward, Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Somewhere, audiophile dude pushes the leather sofa away from the wall, sees four-socket outlet, shrieks.

bendy, Sunday, 18 November 2007 02:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, these are great, but you don't have to spend a lot of money to improve sound:

http://www.belt.demon.co.uk/Free_Techniques/Free_Techniques.html

Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 18 November 2007 04:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Holy shit the Teleportation Tweak! We are dealing with <i>balls</i> here, gentlemen. Big, round, shiny balls, of finest brass, lovingly hand-polished to a mirror shine by a taskforce of brilliant Sound Artisans. These balls can be yours for the astonishingly low price of $680 (Big Shiny Brass Balls are not subject to our 30-day money-back guarantee)

Telephone thing, Sunday, 18 November 2007 10:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

it doesn't actually take any courage to be a con man, is the thing. you just have to really, really hate everybody.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 18 November 2007 19:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

The interesting thing about these tweaks is that they abandon the pretense of scientific support. Whereas w/ feet for speaker stands in Stereophile or whatever they'll be some physicist explaining how the damping works, here's it's just like, Hey, put this magic clock in the room and it'll improve the sound. I love it.

Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 18 November 2007 20:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sorry, maybe I'm Billy-doesn't-get-it, but is this site real or an elaborate spoof?

Matt #2, Sunday, 18 November 2007 20:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

I had initially assumed spoof, but I followed some links and poked around and it appears to be real, or at least elaborate enough a spoof to include three or four different sites. Stereophile had an article on some of these tweaks a few years ago anyway:

http://www.stereophile.com/news/10415/

Mark Rich@rdson, Sunday, 18 November 2007 20:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

even if it is a spoof there's certainly enough real snake-oil products with extremely similar purposes/explanations

here's a collection of some more: http://www.ilikejam.dsl.pipex.com/audiophile.htm

ciderpress, Sunday, 18 November 2007 21:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

i know someone who swears by this ....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280182123367&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=018

zappi, Thursday, 13 December 2007 15:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

"extremely flat"

nabisco, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't even know what "a richer, fuller sound, with less emphasis of detail" means. it's supposed to be a good thing?

bernard snowy, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

My latest tweak = this chair;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/Photo624.jpg

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 13 December 2007 16:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'm actually buying a glass platter for my turntable. i might even buy that mat for it. i'm a sucka 4 luv.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 13 December 2007 23:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

actually the chair i'm assuming was a joke, but honestly i was suprised how much getting speaker stands and "correctly" positioning my chair i listen in and the speakers in the room made a HUGE difference in how good things sounded.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 13 December 2007 23:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

The chair's totally not a joke; it's expensive and comfortable and easily moved but it's not likely to make me fall asleep in it (no headrest); if I'm comfortable and awake, I can concentrate on listening more. I bought it (almost) with the sole intention of it being a 'headphones' chair.

But yeah, basic physics says position your speakers correctly and sit in the right spot; you simply don't get stereo-imaging without it.

Scik Mouthy, Friday, 14 December 2007 07:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

that's AMAZING.
audiophiles are some weird people, man.

ian, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 19:57 (nine years ago) Permalink

actually the chair i'm assuming was a joke, but honestly i was suprised how much getting speaker stands and "correctly" positioning my chair i listen in and the speakers in the room made a HUGE difference in how good things sounded.

-- M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, December 13, 2007 11:39 PM

totally true

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 19:58 (nine years ago) Permalink

actually properly treating one's room acoustically would probably do a better job than moving your chair and speakers about

electricsound, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 22:29 (nine years ago) Permalink

is there already a company selling audiophile interior house paint?

because if there is, I should start selling audiophile EXTERIOR house paint.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 22:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

(xpost)
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cb/Dbsts2.jpg

snoball, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 23:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

two months pass...

I was much, much less impressed with this enormous fucking Naim set-up than I should have been given how much it ought to have cost. Sure it went LOUD, but sound-wise I wouldn't swap it for my own system, I don't think.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/IMG_0126.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/IMG_0128.jpg

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

Is it just perspective on that first photo, or are your speakers nearly at shoulder height?

Rob M v2, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:26 (nine years ago) Permalink

Oh, no - is that a Cyrus CD player? Or tuner? And why isn't everything on Mana shelves? That's why it doesn't sound that good. And has it been on continuously for five years? Another biggie with Naimists. (Seriously, that doesn't look like a great room for those huge - and amazingly ugly - speakers).

What's the turntable - Nottingham Spacedek or something? Oracle Delphi?

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:27 (nine years ago) Permalink

mp3s out a old marantz amp someone gave me and 15 y/o bottom of the line cambridge soundworks speakers all day babay

although i did love to read sudiophile magazines when i worked at a bookstore just for the lulz

jhøshea, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:30 (nine years ago) Permalink

The speakers are nearly to chest height - I'm 5'8".

The Cyrus is just a DAC for his wireless streaming thing. Dunno what the turntable is. The room is big but odd; it's a loft that used to be three bedrooms. There's a (low) double bed behind the speakers, plus a desk, which is where I slept (not the desk) (although that picture was taken at 6am so sleeping wasn't exactly urgent and key that weekend).

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I really wish someone had just given me a peek into my co-habiting/flat in communal block/married-with-kids future when I was handing over the moolah for all my gear in 1996-97. I wish I'd just got something good/2nd-hand with a small footprint (Cyrus CD/integrated, ProAc speakers, something like that; maybe a Pro-Ject record deck, old Marantz cassette deck, NAD tuner, cables from Maplin) and STOPPED there. Think of all the photographic gear I could've bought with the money saved if I'd just contracted that particular hobbyist bug a decade earlier!

(Ah, DAC for wireless streaming; the Naim box-stacking is kinda insane - external power supplies for everything. Makes my Audiolab pre/mono arrangement look positively understated).

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

The speakers are Naim DBLs. They weigh about 15st each. Retail these days at £15k. When he got them, in 2000, they should have been £12k. He got them for £4k cos they were "shop-soiled" - the band he's in had an arrangement with Naim and they'd been using them as a playback set-up when they recorded an album in a country house, and the guitarist's dog had taken a bite out of the bottom corner of one, or something.

I'm kind of glad I've had a brush with stuff that's seriously high-end because it's warned me off a bit. Our flat's not that small, but it's a flat nonetheless, and, you know, I want stuff on the walls and holidays and a new camera and stuff maybe too.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:42 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think my main response to audiophilia these days is that the best way to make your hi-fi sound great is to play better records on it.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:48 (nine years ago) Permalink

actually properly treating one's room acoustically would probably do a better job than moving your chair and speakers about

How so?

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 15:50 (nine years ago) Permalink

the best way to make your hi-fi sound great is to play better records on it.

b i n g o

Savannah Smiles, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:28 (nine years ago) Permalink

if anyone is looking for really great speakers that won't break your bank....i bought these about a year ago and couldn't be more pleased with them...they are really surprising given the price and size:

Epos ELS 3 mini monitors:

http://www.musicdirect.com/product/73457

i run them with a Cambridge Audio integrated amp w/Cambridge phono pre-amp.....

My turntable is a Rega P1 -- one thing on that i would recommend is buying a glass platter and also i replaced the original ortofon cartridge with a Denon DL 160 cartridge which is a fucking amazing cartridge for the price...

For CD player I run a really really old NAD one that I got off craigslist for $35...it works pretty well, has a hard time tracking CD-Rs but will play them after awhile (it's from 87 though so I guess there weren't even CD-Rs then)

M@tt He1ges0n, Tuesday, 6 May 2008 16:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

Post more pics of slobs in garrets seasoned with with ridiculous sound systems and ugly furniture.

Gorge, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:18 (nine years ago) Permalink

I really like the coffee table.

Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 7 May 2008 20:38 (nine years ago) Permalink

I think my favourite way / place to listen to music these days, rather than the big sofa and NAD / Cambridge Audio / Tannoy / proper rack & stands set-up in the living room, with everything anchored in a nice triangle, blah blah, equidistant from rear walls, speakers toed in, is the hotch-potch system in the back room, with the knackered Marantz CD, 20-year-old Marantz amp, DAC, and diddy Q Acoustics speakers. Cos I have space, peace, my comfy chair, books, headphones, no TV or console to distract.

Scik Mouthy, Thursday, 8 May 2008 17:24 (nine years ago) Permalink

Those are the kind of speakers you buy to justify having previously bought Monster Cable.

kenan, Thursday, 8 May 2008 18:31 (nine years ago) Permalink

What's the sensitivity rating on those things? It might be all show, but they certainly look like they could bring on an involuntary bowel movement.

kenan, Thursday, 8 May 2008 18:36 (nine years ago) Permalink

http://shop.mapleshadestore.com/Mapleshade-Static-Draining-Brush/productinfo/SDBRUSH/

MAYBE this thing makes sense for vinyl, but for CDs??

DJI, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 05:53 (three months ago) Permalink

I think they would have more fun spending money on drugs and listening to music than buying a brush.

earlnash, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 05:57 (three months ago) Permalink

Utter bullshit, a static charge is unable to affect how light reflects from an optical discs's binary pits. Even for LPs the issue with static is attracting dust, not some magical effect on the needle in the groove.

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 05:58 (three months ago) Permalink

*disc's - sigh

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 05:58 (three months ago) Permalink

This Stooges box set with 9 different takes on "Dirt" sounds so exquisite on this black tar heroin in this old 90s boombox after I sold my McIntosh poweramp to Big Al up in Stuebensville. While not as definitively high fi, the boombox's aurual distortion along with the nodding out pulls out a true extension of the artist intentions.

earlnash, Tuesday, 14 November 2017 06:10 (three months ago) Permalink

getting closer to the pure source

attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 06:15 (three months ago) Permalink

Awesome audiophile hash oil I have known and loved

bumbling my way toward the light or wahtever (hardcore dilettante), Tuesday, 14 November 2017 14:31 (three months ago) Permalink

two months pass...

My audiophile work colleague has just had his oven replaced and has now got an induction hob. Not only is it great for cooking he swears that his hi-fi sounds better, he thinks the old cooker was tainting the power supply.

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:10 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah that sounds legit, def won’t lead to him tearing down the walls of his home in the middle of the night in search of the problematic electrons which are causing some weird trebly flutters on his copy of kind of blue

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:20 (one month ago) Permalink

the cracks, whistles, hums, and whooshes had crisper mids supported by a thicker, more robust low end
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00060832/

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:27 (one month ago) Permalink

hahaha

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:28 (one month ago) Permalink

thank you SG for these laughs

mh, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 22:28 (one month ago) Permalink

Serious question here:
I visited a record dealer once, and he had what looked to be quite a high-end turntable.
Rather than being mounted on a conventional plinth, it seemed like the turntable was sitting on top of some bizarre miniature waterbed or something, free to sway from side to side ever so slightly.
I don't think I'd call it snake oil, though, as the turntable did sound really amazing.
Anybody have any idea what this actually is? I don't recall the brand name.

mirostones, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 16:33 (one month ago) Permalink

I've heard of some turntables suspended on a thin later of an oil or gel type substance but that shit is generally some super high end stuff

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 17:07 (one month ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/02/reddit-audiophiles-test-homepod-say-it-sounds-better-than-1000-speaker/

In-depth test says $350 speaker has a "near-perfectly flat frequency response."

kind of makes me want to try these myself

papa poutine (∞), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 16:45 (one week ago) Permalink

I'd love to get a HomePod, but it works only with Apple Music or songs you bought from iTunes. It won't play songs you've burned from CDs.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:34 (one week ago) Permalink

uh what

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:36 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess for voice control maybe, but you can stream to it from any of your devices, and I believe it works fine with iTunes Match. That's kind of a racket in that it's $15/year but hey, you're streaming

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:38 (one week ago) Permalink

lol audiophile snake oil + apple fanboy delusions what a combo

it's apple, i guarantee there are already like a dozen speakers like that half as much and just as good

this is like when they "invented" wireless earbuds

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:39 (one week ago) Permalink

the earbuds are really good though

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:40 (one week ago) Permalink

I think the apple superfan claim is generally that apple didn't necessarily invent anything, just that whatever the thing is, it was no good until Apple did it

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:41 (one week ago) Permalink

I've been working with Apple guys for years, I'm glad you like them, for $159 I certainly hope you do.

It's a religion at this point there's no point in arguing.

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:45 (one week ago) Permalink

i actually had a chance to use the earbuds

they sound very nice and has a weirdly good bass response

papa poutine (∞), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:49 (one week ago) Permalink

have*

but i also just use my german maestro gmp 8.5d's most of the time

papa poutine (∞), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:50 (one week ago) Permalink

I guess for voice control maybe, but you can stream to it from any of your devices
Well, what I've been reading says otherwise. "If you add music to your home iTunes library that was not acquired through a purchase, HomePod will not be able to access it." (Link below.) That means about 99 percent of the music in my library can't be played through this speaker. I tried Apple Music for about a month, but it screwed up my existing library so I dumped it.
https://9to5mac.com/2018/01/23/homepod-can-play-purchased-itunes-music-podcasts-and-stream-beats-1-without-apple-music-subscription/

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:53 (one week ago) Permalink

hard to believe that two play:1s (or ones?) as a stereo pair wouldn't be preferable for the price of one homepod

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:54 (one week ago) Permalink

it acts as a normal airplay speaker
AirPlaying content to HomePod is obviously unrestricted.
the article isn’t clear but they’re talking about what works via siri

you can run spotify or whatever on a phone, or even have it act as an apple tv speaker and play stuff there

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 17:58 (one week ago) Permalink

I think they’re trying to frame it in terms of the amazon/google devices that can link to multiple music services natively (“alexa, play X artist on spotify”) as opposed to using it as a speaker you just stream things to

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:01 (one week ago) Permalink

I've seen this confusion a lot in the media, which is understandable - the set of what you can tell the speaker to do is smaller than what the speaker can actually do. I guess Siri, being a cloud agent, has no idea what mp3s you have on your machine, but only knows about the files associated with your iCloud account

If I didn't already have a killer speaker that does things the homepod can't do - be wireless, have an input jack - I'd be all over this thing, I don't care how lobotomized the 'home speaker' aspect is, since I hate that stuff and never use it

Brakhage, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:02 (one week ago) Permalink

Er, 'wireless' = 'battery-powered'

Brakhage, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:03 (one week ago) Permalink

the real time and automatic spectral flattening is interesting (and not new, I don't think). But I wonder if there's a more advanced analysis that accounts for the fact that the microphone is located at the speaker and not actually where you are listening. I enjoy thinking about the room correction problem, but I generally don't care about it when listening. It would probably drive me crazy imagining that my speaker might be messing with its spectral response as I'm listening at any given moment. maybe you can turn it off.

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:03 (one week ago) Permalink

xpost OK, maybe I'm not understanding. So I can play anything in my iTunes library on a HomePod, just like I do now through AppleTV (using AirPlay)?

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:04 (one week ago) Permalink

yup

it’s an airplay speaker with siri built in and some other “smart” audio correction

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:05 (one week ago) Permalink

room correction for spectral flatness might be good for removing extreme notches or peaks, but I don't think a mastering engineer assumes you'll be listening on a speaker that is spectrally flat. he/she is already making compromises to accommodate various listening environments. so you are better off using measurements to prove snake oil, i.e. if a thing doesn't change the measurement it doesn't actually do anything. but you should use your own ears, music, and listening environment to decide if speakers actually sound good to you. you have your own filter curve the speaker can't know, anyhow.

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:09 (one week ago) Permalink

I'm sure that you can train an EQ AI in some piece of software to try and account for your internal filter curve, though

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:10 (one week ago) Permalink

yup
it’s an airplay speaker with siri built in and some other “smart” audio correction

Thanks. I need to look into iTunes Match, which may be the way to go for me since most of my digitalized music was burned from CDs.

Jazzbo, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:13 (one week ago) Permalink

I joined Apple Music a couple of months ago and had no problem with it doing the matching with my juuuuust-under 100 000 songs (that's the limit for matching). it uploaded a bunch of stuff but lots of that is stuff they have but it didn't recognize my metadata. I'm hoping that I will get over caring about metadata with this thing because I have wasted a lot of time on that over the years.

not gonna get a homepad though

droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:16 (one week ago) Permalink

have*

but i also just use my german maestro gmp 8.5d's most of the time

― papa poutine (∞), Tuesday, February 13, 2018 11:50 AM (forty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how are these??? they are on massdrop now and i'm intruiged...

It's not delivery, it's Adorno! (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:32 (one week ago) Permalink

iTunes Match can be a pretty neat way to clean up your library if you have an assortment of things that were ripped at varying quality and are ok with AAC audio format (which pretty much everything plays). Sync your whole library, make a playlist of only matched songs, and then delete anything matched that's in low quality -- old rips at 160kbps or whatever, one-offs that have metadata good enough to match but are otherwise a little messy. Then you can redownload those songs at iTunes store quality, all tagged up and everything, without DRM. You have to be a little careful to make sure it didn't misidentify but it's generally fine.

Sufjan, the EQ stuff reminds me the most of stuff a lot of home receivers have like Audyssey or similar branded features. Instead of moving a little mic around your room as your receiver plays test tones, it does it automatically. It's not for everyone, but I've had it work pretty well.

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:34 (one week ago) Permalink

do not let itunes match anywhere near your library without making a backup

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:46 (one week ago) Permalink

that, too

mh, Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:47 (one week ago) Permalink

xxxp

i mean you gotta test them for yrself obviously but they have a very flat frequency response, i use them for monitoring, it has barely any bass response, and almost every sound sounds very crisp and clear

papa poutine (∞), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 18:55 (one week ago) Permalink

speaker should be called apple crisp obv

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 February 2018 19:01 (one week ago) Permalink

the nuraphones seem to run with the idea of each person being a unique filter. I suppose room correction would still be needed to do this sort of thing in a loudspeaker. not saying it isn't snake oil, though.

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 February 2018 05:34 (one week ago) Permalink

you don't need to be an audiophile to see that the main selling point of a standalone speaker is never going to be sound quality

it's kinda like suggesting the big mac is the best burger ever (or even the best in its price range)

niels, Thursday, 15 February 2018 07:36 (one week ago) Permalink

it’s that you just want.. one speaker, man

(There are actually many tweeters, a subwoofer, etc)

A bunch of style brands have speakers on that principle but it’s halfway between those and a smart device with passable sound like an echo

I’ve kind of lusted after this thing but I have lots of hoarded things and can’t justify buying more: https://teenageengineering.com/products/od-11

There is also that harman kardon all-in-one speaker that looks like the sub from the old soundsticks, those transparent ones that were always in pictures next to macs in the early 00s. Those sounded nice, for computer speakers

mh, Thursday, 15 February 2018 07:56 (one week ago) Permalink

xp yes, I agree. and you are always going to get the somewhat off-feeling directional bass that reminds you of your college computer speakers. can you not do stereo pairing with the homepod? I agree that adding stereo separation or a sub offers more improvement over simply buying a better standalone speaker with the same size and separation issues compensated with arrays of drivers and dsp.

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:06 (one week ago) Permalink

that OD-11 looks cool. I wonder what directional orthogonality gets you when the two orthogonal drivers already appear to be frequency orthogonal, though. I'm sure that swedish sound genius knew.

Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 15 February 2018 17:09 (one week ago) Permalink

that's cool!

niels, Friday, 16 February 2018 06:57 (one week ago) Permalink


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