here's a pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares

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jesus christ

yes i see patritos no i will not fix it

NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

lets come up with comedy nicknames for laurence maroney

bustoney

mongloney

terribleplayeroney

NEW YORK DESERVED 9-11 (cankles), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

no one cares about one of the best games of the season? ok.

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

tom brandy (a. what he was drinking in gallons after the game or b. a feminizing of his last name, take your pick)
kevin "not marshall" faulk
rodney harrisonned

GOOGLE FOR NIGGA AND FIND JOREL (omar little), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:22 (fourteen years ago) link

kevin "not marshall" faulk

^^^ this is his legal name afaic

horseshoe, Monday, 16 November 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 patritos

bitter about emo (Hunt3r), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:52 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.dansimmons.com/images_art/patrito_art_cover_sm.jpg

luol deng (am0n), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

tobleroney?

house of flying jaggers (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 November 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

The Onion is so cold:
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/patriots_lead_colts_at_halftime

Moodles, Friday, 20 November 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hap says:
December 9, 2009 4:33 PM
The Cheats are a mess ! They're coming apart at the seams. Bill Jellyprick has lost his edge. The team's imploding.

too shart (am0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:39 (fourteen years ago) link

jesus you'd think they werent 7-5 and leading the division

farting irl (cankles), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link

otm there was a teaser for nfl gameday where fran whateverhisnameis was like, "is the patriots dynasty OVER?" i know these shows are just dumb talking points but really

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 December 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"is the patriots dynasty OVER?"

LET'S HOPE SO.

Daniel, Esq., Sunday, 13 December 2009 18:01 (fourteen years ago) link

adalius thomas benched for the game & possibly never playing another down for NE

10 yards for tripping o_O (daria-g), Sunday, 13 December 2009 19:18 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah what is that about? is belichick mad at him?

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 December 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

i can't believe pat patriot is showing his face at this game. the NFL fines ochocinco for giving out christmas gifts in the end zone, but HE'S allowed to show up? fuck this league.

everyone kills people (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Sunday, 13 December 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link

i think several guys are pat patriot so it's probably not the same dude? nfl is totally ridic about fining ochocinco, though, agreed.

horseshoe, Sunday, 13 December 2009 19:24 (fourteen years ago) link

i choose to believe that it was literally pat patriot who was arrested.

everyone kills people (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Sunday, 13 December 2009 22:29 (fourteen years ago) link

re: thomas, belichick had some issue with him earlier this season, which led to him being deactivated for a game (bmore i think). the media didn't find out what it was, though. then mid through last week four guys were sent home for the day, for being late to the 8am meeting (moss, thomas, guyton, burgess). speculation was, it was prob a cover for sending a message to some people belichick was having an issue with..

so thomas, next day, talks to the media in the locker room and is kind of a dick about it, saying look i called saying i was late, we're not in kindergarten here, i went home and put my feet up and watched some film, whatever.

10 yards for tripping o_O (daria-g), Sunday, 13 December 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

yea that sound byte of thomas sayin 'we're not in kindergarten, etc' was $

johnny crunch, Monday, 14 December 2009 00:19 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

pats message board has an excellent thread of classic pats in ms paint. i am stealing 2 for u

http://i45.tinypic.com/2nv87xk.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/ke7vir.jpg

kicker conspiracy (j. feely ha ha) (daria-g), Monday, 25 January 2010 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

r.i.p. mosi tatupu

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

on the same day david patten returned from the dead. the circle of life goes on.

aarrissi-a-roni, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

am i wrong to think mankins is coming out of this looking like the asshole?

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 02:36 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah if he thinks he is as good as jahri evans (quite possibly the best guard in the game) he is an asshole

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 02:55 (thirteen years ago) link

The way the Patriots treat free agents, I don't blame him for trying to get every penny he can.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 07:04 (thirteen years ago) link

you mean the way they offer free agents the money the organization thinks they're worth rather than what the player thinks, or have they been torturing free agents in a dungeon somewhere and i just haven't heard about it?

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 10:48 (thirteen years ago) link

The Patriots are unsentimental when it comes to deciding how much a player is worth. It is a smart way for them to do business, but I don't see how Mankins trying to get the best contract he can is any different. It's not his job to help the team cut costs by sacrificing money from his contract (assuming he could get more elsewhere, which I think he could). And honestly, he's a pretty good player. He might not be Evans but he's certainly one of the best at his position.

no turkey unless it's a club sandwich (polyphonic), Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

i hope u searched for 'patritos' when reviving this

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 16:22 (thirteen years ago) link

yeah i guess it's just boring the way mankins is taking his case to the media--like, dude, you were bad last year and they still offered you 30-something million. ::shrug::

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:25 (thirteen years ago) link

The Patriots' last offer, which has has been on the table for "a significant period of time", was a five-year deal worth approximately $7 million per season and would place the two-time Pro Bowler comfortably among the top five paid guards in the NFL, according to a league source.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 June 2010 18:34 (thirteen years ago) link

with joe "jellybean" bryant! (not pictured)

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:47 (thirteen years ago) link

lesbiansthatlooklikejustinbieber.com

everyone kills people (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

no argument here

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

why does Tom Brady have Bieber hair

xp: ha

HI DERE, Friday, 18 June 2010 17:48 (thirteen years ago) link

it looks like someone put a wig on his head from walgreen's novelty aisle or something, and he's forgotten it's on his head.

everyone kills people (the schef (adam schefter ha ha)), Friday, 18 June 2010 17:53 (thirteen years ago) link

lol schef i was idly thinking of copying and pasting that pic myself; glad you're so on top of things <3

horseshoe, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

justin bieber/little lord bardleroy mix, imo

horseshoe, Friday, 18 June 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

you...you don't need an o-line to win games, right? or a d-line? or lbs? or cbs? right? right?? cos i'm thinking, if you do need any of those things, maybe it is going to be a long ol' 16 games for los patritos :(

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 September 2010 00:48 (thirteen years ago) link

no doubt. mankins won't be playing at all, i'm guessing? and they just lost leigh bodden for the season.

but i don't know what to think about any team, except packers and saints will be good.

wears suburban hang-ups on her sleeve like some kind of corporate logo (daria-g), Wednesday, 1 September 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

that was a fuckin big deal for ne imo. difference between 9 wins and a crappy division record and 10 wins and a decent division record.

MAX NOT FOR MOD (Roberto Spiralli), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 04:07 (thirteen years ago) link

deion branch 2 patritos?
http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=5661743

am0n, Friday, 8 October 2010 16:21 (thirteen years ago) link

not a branch fan but he could def help for a 5th rounder or something

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 October 2010 16:30 (thirteen years ago) link

branch trade sounds like another thrown away low round pick, which is becoming a habit of late.

MAX NOT FOR MOD (Roberto Spiralli), Friday, 8 October 2010 16:52 (thirteen years ago) link

you don't need picks when you can just pick up DANNY FUCKING WOODHEAD as a free agent.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 8 October 2010 22:09 (thirteen years ago) link

gave up more to get branch than they received for moss???

WWW
TTT
FFF

MAX NOT FOR MOD (Roberto Spiralli), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:47 (thirteen years ago) link

Everything about this season is bizarre.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:49 (thirteen years ago) link

I WAS MISINFORMED

nm

4th still too much. we

MAX NOT FOR MOD (Roberto Spiralli), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 02:50 (thirteen years ago) link

4th rounder is a fair price for Branch, probably a deal.

Moss would have had more value if he wasn't demanding a contract extension, and if he wasn't a risk of being problematic if traded to a franchise he wasn't happy with.

I've been pretty darn happy with every Pats move since the Seymour deal.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 05:20 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

fascinating retrospective of P. Manning vs the Patriots:
http://hockeyfightproductions.blogspot.com/2010/11/welcome-back-you-big-headed-bastard.html

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 November 2010 23:39 (thirteen years ago) link

one month passes...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/214990558.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1293415459&Signature=MsDwcMdE%2BRZP0qUK%2BpYPImwvjMI%3D

STEELS: this will be a great game if it happens. NE not gonna put up 39pts again but i'd be pretty confident they'd manage to score more than pburgh
RAVES: seems to me like people are forgetting that these dudes aren't actually very good this year
JETES: no way these clowns win a playoff game at foxbo
CHEEVS: i think this would have to be the championship game to happen, so unlikely, but i would be v worried because of the alumnus factor cf. recent losses to denver/mcdaniels and browns/mangini teams neither of which were anything like as good as this KC team
IND/JAK: fending off the peyty comeback this year broke that hoodoo/jags are str8 dump/pats win vs either of these. but the south winner loses to the north wildcard anyhow.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 December 2010 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

pats points allowed: 306
jets points allowed: 297

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 December 2010 05:01 (thirteen years ago) link

is a spiralli not concerned about what the ravens did in foxboro last year?

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 05:24 (thirteen years ago) link

i'm not a flacco backer at all but i think the ravens are pretty damn solid on offense

the pats offense is interesting tho cuz i feel like it really puts an emphasis on how well you can pass cover & de-emphasizes the ability to stop the run (why the pats o killed the steelers) & rush the passer

ravens CBs are pretty shaky right?

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link

i really feel like the chiefs could make a run to the afc title game a la the jets last year -- idk if their defense is necessarily good enough but any team that can run the ball as well as they do has a chance to win two games in the playoffs

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link

if i was a pats fan i'd still be the most concerned about the colts since the games have just been crazily close in the past two years

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 05:30 (thirteen years ago) link

is a spiralli not concerned about what the ravens did in foxboro last year?

― BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, December 27, 2010 12:24 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

afaic this game never happened

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 December 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

colts still def the scariest

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 December 2010 05:32 (thirteen years ago) link

actually the more i think about it the more i like the chiefs -- amazing running game, cassell has been judicious w/ the ball this year, dwayne bowe is a legit #1 wr

BIG SANTA aka the sleighdriver (J0rdan S.), Monday, 27 December 2010 05:36 (thirteen years ago) link

the question marks next to KC are #1 how they deal with the playoffs, which is basically a new experience for nearly all concerned, and #2 the fact that they had the easiest regular season schedule, including just one real playoff team (real=excluding the nfc west). if i have it right they would have to go thru the jets and the north winner to get to the champs game. would love it, can't see it.

maybe i am underestimating baltimore but they haven't really looked too convincing when i have seen them this year. they suffered from crappy offensive playcalling earlier in the season, with too much on flacco and rice hardly in games. it looks like they are doing better now but i don't think they are an O that inspires fear. if NE can keep the ball a little and not have their defense on the field for 40 minutes they will contain them. this is obv the key to the pats' season in general. the good news is that they have mostly been doing a great job of making teams fear being passed on and moving the ball on the ground with that pair of reject backs. and baltimore are sufficiently scared of being passed on.

overall, my thinking is, in any given game if the pats play well they will definitely beat any of these teams with 2 exceptions: pburgh is the only D that could make the NE O look bad even if they play well, and indy is the only team that can keep scoring points regardless of how well NE play. but i maintain that if they make it the colts lose their first game anyway.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 December 2010 13:14 (thirteen years ago) link

pats w/ brady are 6-1 i believe vs pitt? he picks apart that d so i would think theyd have to really give him some new, unexpected looks/schemes

im not the biggest ravens or flacco backer either but flacco has impressed me in the last few wks and id give balt the best odds at winning in ne

johnny crunch, Monday, 27 December 2010 14:20 (thirteen years ago) link

not sure if anyone posted this yet so:

Which, sure, except that Favre is already gone, and has been for some time. There's plenty to mourn about his departure, because he used to be fun and because he'll be replaced by narcissists of a crueler and more corporate cast—think of Tom Brady's joyless tuff-model mug, or Tim Tebow's blissful, boring evangelical boilerplate. Favre did indeed hang on too long, but not in the sense of no longer being able to make the throws or take the hits anymore. His mistake was getting high on his own supply, and sticking around long enough to disappear into his own misty mythos. Celebrity hollowed him out, as it does, and what's left of his old roguish joy now feels false and overdetermined; his press conferences may well be honest, but they are also claustrophobic—weird, rambling tours of the ornate, echoing ego-Xanadu in which he lives. He can't go away any more than Lindsay Lohan can, because there is an industry that depends on him, from which he also draws a sizable paycheck. But the better Favre—the one who really was Like A Kid Out There, as opposed to the one who merely regressed to childishness by overindulgence and self-addiction—is a long time and a long way gone.

http://www.theawl.com/2010/12/the-kid-fades-from-the-picture

Mordy, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:12 (thirteen years ago) link

oops, wanted to put this in the weekly thread. but i guess it fits here bc of the brady diss. my bad!

Mordy, Monday, 27 December 2010 17:13 (thirteen years ago) link

lol, that guy has a pick em where he competes all year against a tossed coin and the coin is winning by a healthy margin

it Terribel !!! (forksclovetofu), Monday, 27 December 2010 18:58 (thirteen years ago) link

so, pats face winner of jets vs colts unless KC beats baltimore. so pats face winner of jets vs colts. shit man. i am gonna have to be p damn drunk to watch that game tbh.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 3 January 2011 04:49 (thirteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Looks like a good choice.

Trading away their other 1st round pick, not so much...

Moodles, Friday, 29 April 2011 23:11 (thirteen years ago) link

argh this lip smacking thing that belichick does all the time in press conferences. it's so fuckin horrible. i can't bear it.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 30 April 2011 13:24 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

PATRITOS

tully bc RELEASED
logan manx TENDER SIGNED

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

i guess we have some defensive ends. on a related note, word is that jermaine cunningham does not look too hot going into year 2.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 August 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

belichick doc on nfl network RIGHT NOW

that is one serious maryland accent he has. pure maryland. the kind of accent that makes it sound like you're constantly pissed off about everything

daria-g, Friday, 16 September 2011 01:06 (twelve years ago) link

i was like "why is he worried the fans are going to throw stuff at him in the preseason??"

then you realize they're in philadelphia

daria-g, Friday, 16 September 2011 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

hahaha this was so great. i respect their knack for capturing the absurdity that comes with following any human being around for a year:

- bill leaves an awkward voicemail for terry francona

- bill can't reset the clock in his car and greg gumbel commiserates

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2011 03:21 (twelve years ago) link

Bill's unrelenting boringness made the whole thing fascinating. Like the scene of Bill and Kraft sitting in his office on game day, idly muttering to each other. THAT'S what they had to boil an entire year down too? There must be hours and hours of him saying nothing.

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 23 September 2011 04:08 (twelve years ago) link

yah he's a boring guy but that's cool, i don't mind boring guys most of the time.

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 September 2011 04:14 (twelve years ago) link

Halloween at the roller rink, with Bill dressed as a pirate and Randy Moss dressed as Spongebob, was an image I will not soon forget.

polyphonic, Friday, 23 September 2011 08:06 (twelve years ago) link

BILLS (+8.5) over Patriots

Q: I can't fight it anymore. I love watching the Patriots. They are a bunch of nobodies playing as the ultimate team. What I mean by nobodies are players who no one else thought much of. That qualifies for Brady, Welker, Haynesworth, their RBs, their WR's other than Ocho, and pretty much everyone else. They play so well as a team in whatever set, and they don't care who gets the ball. Its fun, I give up.
— Cole in Des Moines

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

J0rdan S., Friday, 23 September 2011 18:08 (twelve years ago) link

what the fuck, who is saying the bills are nine point favorites over the patriots

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

When was the last time the Pats lost to the Bills? 2003?

Moodles, Friday, 23 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link

what the fuck, who is saying the bills are nine point favorites over the patriots

― Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Friday, September 23, 2011 6:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

+8.5 means the Bills are 8.5 point underdogs.

speaking of Moss, I thought he seemed super chill and cool in that scene with Bill where they discuss the Halloween party.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 24 September 2011 00:06 (twelve years ago) link

Ah okay. As you can see, i dont gamble

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 24 September 2011 12:13 (twelve years ago) link

brady went and cut his hair!!! do you think it will make belichick change?

he's just a guy with a new haircut

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:00 (twelve years ago) link

did he get a mohawk

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:36 (twelve years ago) link

buffalo is delilah!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:39 (twelve years ago) link

ha, isn't the Bills bar in Chicago called Delilah's?

boxall, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:41 (twelve years ago) link

let's not examine that allusion to closely because it doesn't make any sense

xp YES!

horseshoe, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 17:42 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYNwfq84hJU

lol-qaeda (am0n), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 05:35 (twelve years ago) link

"ah fuck you mason just fuck you will ya?"

lol-qaeda (am0n), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 05:40 (twelve years ago) link

this fucken guy

loads of personality, loved to chase chickens (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

New England Patriots wide receiver Julian Edelman is due in Boston Municipal Court today where he will be arraigned on charges of indecent assault and battery on a woman, Suffolk District Attorney Daniel F. Conley’s office said.

Boston police spokeswoman Elaine Driscoll said officers were called to the Storyville nightclub on Exeter Street in the Back Bay around 1:30 a.m. today to investigate reports of an assault.

After police spoke with the female victim, Edelman was arrested on a single count of indecent assault and battery, Driscoll said. Edelman was taken into custody but later posted bail and released by police.

Driscoll said out of respect for the confidentiality of the information the victim supplied to police, she would not provide specific details of the allegation against Edelman.

In a report on the case, Boston police said Edelman was inside the nightclub on Halloween night when he allegedly reached underneath the woman’s costume and groped her below the waist.

A man who was with the woman told police that a man – later identified as Edelman – bumped into the woman on the dance floor. “He saw the victim’s face change into an expression of shock,’’ police said in the report.

The man then confronted Edelman on the dance floor and “threatened to beat him up’’ while the woman tried to calm him down, police said. The man and the woman were ejected, followed by Edelman, police said.

The man and the woman and Edelman were thrown out of the nightclub by bouncers to calm the situation, police were told by nightclub staff.

When police arrived, Edelman denied groping the woman, police said.

However, after the man and woman positively identified him, Edelman was charged with indecent assault and battery.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 14:42 (twelve years ago) link

Two things: Wes Welker wouldn't ever do this and is there "decent" assault and battery in Suffolk Co?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:06 (twelve years ago) link

#weswelkerwouldnt

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 November 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

I hope he gets ejected from the team immediately. I really don't think I can handle cheering for a team that will look the other way when this kind of thing happens. I'm not from Pittsburgh after all!

Moodles, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 16:46 (twelve years ago) link

story sounds crooked to me. not that i can't imagine a football player groping a woman in a club.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

Then of course after the '90 season, Tom came here and I went to Cleveland, so we haven't been together since then but we've had, whether he was there or in Jacksonville or in New York or I was in Cleveland or I was in wherever I was before coming back here, we've always maintained a good friendship.

i love that coach bill hates the jets so much that he can't even stomach to acknowledge he was there. he's the greatest *swoon*

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 2 November 2011 22:40 (twelve years ago) link

the coach's art of pretend forgetfulness

google sluething so hard right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 3 November 2011 04:42 (twelve years ago) link

So are the Pats now a "finesse" team?

Moodles, Thursday, 3 November 2011 13:48 (twelve years ago) link

wes welker u are a pa-treat-o

PTSD clarinet kid (am0n), Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:52 (twelve years ago) link

gross

horseshoe, Sunday, 6 November 2011 23:53 (twelve years ago) link

u mad?

PTSD clarinet kid (am0n), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

just jealous

horseshoe, Monday, 7 November 2011 00:02 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Juggy Brottleteen (ENBB), Monday, 7 November 2011 00:27 (twelve years ago) link

this team has all of the hallmarks of a 10-6 team that misses the playoffs, and that only thanks to the soft second half schedule. i don't think a pats team under bb has ever been bad in quite so many areas. maybe having a position coach and no one as your coordinators isn't the paradigm redefining genius that no one thought it was, although they have a gen-u-ine ST coordinator and that might actually be their worst phase of play. but playcalling has definitely exaggerated the crazy personal issues.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 November 2011 00:44 (twelve years ago) link

they just kind of suck

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 November 2011 00:59 (twelve years ago) link

i just think they straight up have no talent on defense -- wilfork and mayo and chung are pretty great, but you could make an argument that no one after that (except maybe mccourtney) should be starting for a team that has super bowl aspirations. they absolutely cannot rush the passer and they can't cover anyone. and of course those two issues exacerbate the other. they've really screwed up the draft.

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 November 2011 01:19 (twelve years ago) link

i think ras-i dowling is gonna be pretty good, but obviously he's hurt

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 November 2011 01:20 (twelve years ago) link

but there's been so many pass rushers in the past two drafts and the pats just haven't picked any of them except for jermaine cunningham but he's not a 10 sack a year guy

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 November 2011 01:21 (twelve years ago) link

he's also been totally invisible this year which is a running theme with their defensive draft picks

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 November 2011 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

reiss at espn (who is v understated about it if he ever says anything critical) has said a number of times that maybe belichick could use a sounding board as far as making decisions in the draft.. i mean, it seems to me they have had a lot of the same issues since late 2007

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 7 November 2011 01:56 (twelve years ago) link

cunningham has been a healthy scratch last couple games. pass rush has been better than last year but coverage has been worse. andre carter is doing well, spikes is effective when they rush him the DTs. belichick is notoriously particular about his linebackers being versatile, which has left them with some dudes who can do everything ok, eg ninkovich, while deftly avoiding more one dimensional players like clay matthews.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 November 2011 02:57 (twelve years ago) link

"Hey, Rex, Belichick is better than you," the fan screamed to Ryan, who was walking off the field and into the locker room tunnel with the rest of the team.

"Shut the f--- up," Ryan yelled back.

Ryan could be subject to a fine by the league or the Jets.

am0n, Monday, 14 November 2011 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

Ryan's counterpart, Bill Belichick, also reportedly used profanity after the game. According to the New York Post, he told his son during the postgame celebration: "Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league" and then used a vulgarity.

The league won't investigate that because it was in a private conversation, the spokesman said.

am0n, Monday, 14 November 2011 21:43 (twelve years ago) link

I believe the exact quote was "Thirty-seven points on the best defense in the league. Suck my dick!"

Moodles, Monday, 14 November 2011 22:11 (twelve years ago) link

i think ras-i dowling is gonna be pretty good, but obviously he's hurt

― J0rdan S., Sunday, November 6, 2011 8:20 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark

he just needs some time in the lazarus pit

The sham nation of Israel should be destroyed. (Princess TamTam), Monday, 14 November 2011 23:41 (twelve years ago) link

genuine lol at that

Don't attack when he is black. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 15 November 2011 00:31 (twelve years ago) link

andre carter seems like a cool guy

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:30 (twelve years ago) link

yeah he does

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

So if I keep my son cranking away at piano lessons does he have a shot at becoming a defensive lineman for the Pats?

Moodles, Wednesday, 16 November 2011 17:12 (twelve years ago) link

kyle arrington currently 3rd cb in afc pro bowl voting

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 November 2011 13:57 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/0110/nfl_a_belichick_gb1_668.jpg

bffs

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link

hahahahah omg

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 January 2012 23:37 (twelve years ago) link

pats ppl check out the belichick press conf from yesterday if you have 20 mins spare. bill feeling good, in talking mood.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 January 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

what in the...

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

oh come on that's totally self-explanatory

this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link

love this:

http://i42.tinypic.com/8yzwxw.jpg

brandon spikes with bob k

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:01 (twelve years ago) link

<3
brandon spikes is one of my favorite players on this team.

also: Suggs and Gronk wired for the afc title game

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8265c595/Sound-FX-Ravens-vs-Patriots-first-half
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/09000d5d8265c8ff/Sound-FX-Ravens-vs-Patriots-second-half

rob gronkowski is having fun

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:18 (twelve years ago) link

https://p.twimg.com/AkV4LISCMAAdu3_.jpg

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3hQB9x-WQ5g

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

Let's try that again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hQB9x-WQ5g

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 02:37 (twelve years ago) link

gronk handling suggs in that first half video was pretty sweet

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 January 2012 03:44 (twelve years ago) link

START GRONKING

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link

realized nbc has the super bowl this year - i wonder how many times they'll ask rodney harrison to comment on a certain play. of course they already ran through it once in his first year on sunday night football, when he made it a point to explain that the breakdown in the defense there was that asante samuel was out of position

harrison just said that based off of what happened this year, he'd trust eli in the fourth quarter more than brady

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 30 January 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link

lolz at scruggs
"THE WHITE TIGHT END! THEY AMERICAN EXPRESS BOY! DON'T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT!"

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2012 03:56 (twelve years ago) link

My favorite quote from the Gronk video:

"We'll be Gronkin': Just taking whatever you can and slamming it on the ground hard as you can. It's just like drilling for oil."

Makes me think we are about to see a revolution in US energy policy.

Moodles, Monday, 30 January 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

excellent work by jackie! we've been hearing about this for years with few specifics.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 January 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, that's a good read.

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2012 17:34 (twelve years ago) link

omg the belichick pic explains SO MUCH

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 00:12 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/jeIBl.jpg

⚓ (gr8080), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

YOU

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:36 (twelve years ago) link

tom brady has a glow abt him doesnt he ladies and gentlemen A GLOW

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

omg st's index finger is gangrenous!

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link

his cap is deliciously broken-in

mookieproof, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

he could go at anytime tbh

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:38 (twelve years ago) link

it must be a full-time job accessorizing ST

mookieproof, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link

i remember watching a show abt roadies years ago and they asked them if there were any jobs that were unique to the bands they were with and the areosmith guy said 'tying scarfs around the mic stands'

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 01:42 (twelve years ago) link

irl LOLs

ENBB, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 02:00 (twelve years ago) link

HAA

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link

lol @ baby wilfork

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link

http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyq7ff2GY81qz6f9yo1_500.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

is that a tshirt i can acquire

lag∞n, Friday, 3 February 2012 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

Tiquan Underwood released the day before the super bowl...

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 4 February 2012 23:59 (twelve years ago) link

see jpg above i guess

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:00 (twelve years ago) link

Twitter dudes speculating that he would've played if Gronk couldn't go, and that he probably already knew this was gonna happen.

polyphonic, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link

i got off a plane in boston two days ago and the first thing i saw on the drive from the airport was a dude roasting a life size model of a giants player on a spit

junior dada (thomp), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

that is the one contribution i will make to this thread

junior dada (thomp), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link

lol

Assmaster (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link

xps to poly: i hope that's the case. he is reacting v well about it at any rate
https://twitter.com/#!/TiUnderwood/status/165957643259748354

the thing is, supposedly he is/was really highly rated by NE. i wonder if they will bring him back, which would kind of make this even worse somehow?

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link

i got off a plane in boston two days ago and the first thing i saw on the drive from the airport was a dude roasting a life size model of a giants player on a spit

― junior dada (thomp), Saturday, February 4, 2012 7:46 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

never change boston, never change

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:53 (twelve years ago) link

i remember when the pats played the bears in the 86 superbowl people were buying bear meat and eating it this was a thing that was happening, much discussed around the schoolyard

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 February 2012 00:55 (twelve years ago) link

My mom fed us bear meat the whole two weeks leading up to the super bowl

Moodles, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link

no way srs

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 February 2012 01:09 (twelve years ago) link

We used to hunt, skin, kill and eat SSTs when I was growing up. Now I know why.

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 02:25 (twelve years ago) link

i'm sure underwood will be back

call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 February 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link

ti underwood, don't you go and cut your hair
do you think it will make belichick change?!

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 5 February 2012 07:06 (twelve years ago) link

i got off a plane in boston two days ago and the first thing i saw on the drive from the airport was a dude roasting a life size model of a giants player on a spit

― junior dada (thomp), Saturday, February 4, 2012 7:46 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biTbNabyyyM

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 February 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link

: )

i will see u later. (am0n), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link

Tags:
Help yourself to some roast of Eli Manning New York Fans

i will see u later. (am0n), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/qII8s.jpg

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link

"i'm an apple II"
"and i'm and commodore PET"

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:41 (twelve years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

dig belichicks lego man hair

i will see u later. (am0n), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link

not that i have been obsessively ruminating and consoling myself about this all day, but i have determined that this was actually the least disappointing playoff exit of the last 10 years:

06/07 colts (just the way that game played out, losing the big lead)
07/08 giants (...)
05/06 denver (should and would have won 3 in a row with superior colts losing to pburgh. wtf this game)
10/11 jets (terrible, dumb game)
09/10 ravens (these last two only ones where the other team was actually legit better; 1st quarter tho...damn)
11/12 giants (played well, other team played better *shrug*)

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 6 February 2012 23:26 (twelve years ago) link

yeah I can imagine the Colt game was a backbreaker

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 00:26 (twelve years ago) link

colt game, just brutal. after they somehow pulled out a win vs the super chargers who were really good that season, and ran up what, a 21 point lead? 19?

http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/wp-content/uploads//2007/10/reche_caldwell__1_3.jpg

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 04:29 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

bjge to bengals

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link

good for benny, hope he got paid.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, def keeping a watch out. 3y at around 10m i bet. i think he has a chance to perform at least as well as c benson did the last couple years. he may not have as much talent but his attitude is approx 1000000 times better.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link

No more Law Firm. Bummer. He was one of my favorites over the past couple seasons. Thought he had great potential, but needed to be played on more snaps.

Moodles, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link

Interesting that they brought back Stallworth. He didn't make a huge impression on me last time around, maybe overshadowed by Moss.

Moodles, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 21:17 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

happy patritos day

mookieproof, Monday, 16 April 2012 15:16 (twelve years ago) link

https://p.twimg.com/AqnkXKQCAAA7f6H.jpg

pplains, Monday, 16 April 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link

hbbb

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 16 April 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link

apparently matt light is going to retire.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 April 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link

I'm going to start referring to him as BILLB.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 26 April 2012 20:49 (twelve years ago) link

So the Pats are really working the aggressive D angle with these two picks. Looking forward to seeing them steamroll some QBs.

Moodles, Friday, 27 April 2012 03:50 (twelve years ago) link

lol

these pretzels are makeing me horney (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:30 (twelve years ago) link

is wes wearing a fucking ascot?

(Name Withheld to Avoid Hassle) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link

eh, it's at least better than the creepy moustache he was sporting toward the end of the season

Moodles, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link

two months pass...

craziest celebrity sighting out where i was working in central park: robert kraft arm in arm with his "gal pal". there was kissing. I totally wigged out and was staring, definitely not cool.
it's weird, actors and musicians don't impress me at all (ansari showed up if you wanna name drop and it's very whatever), but anyone connected with athletics gets me startstruck

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 06:58 (eleven years ago) link

Only autograph I've ever asked for is from Ozzie Smith. I feel you, bro.

pplains, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Jake Ballard, Visanthe Shiancoe

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

how did vikings let shiancoe walk? do they have any receivers? but maybe they don't have a qb either so why bother?

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 04:27 (eleven years ago) link

I'm looking forward to the pats introducing the world to the all TE offense

Moodles, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 05:05 (eleven years ago) link

with wes welker running around them like a minicooper

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 06:43 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

wow, hernandez tied up thru 2018. that's 6 more years of gronk-hernandez action in the books. no news on $ yet.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 August 2012 12:35 (eleven years ago) link

Upon agreeing to a five-year contract extension on Monday, Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez made a charitable gesture that owner Robert Kraft acknowledged in remarks Monday evening at the team's annual charitable foundation gala.

"One of the touching moments since I've owned the team -- knowing that this is our charitable gala tonight -- Aaron came into my office, a little teary-eyed, and presented me with a check for $50,000 to go to the Myra Kraft Giving Back Fund," Kraft said. "I said 'Aaron, you don't have to do this, you've already got your contract.' And he said 'No, it makes me feel good and I want to do it.'

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link

<3 AH

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

Nice

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Aaron came into my office, a little teary-eyed, and presented me with a check for $50,000 to go to the Myra Kraft Giving Back Fund," Kraft said. "I said 'Aaron, you don't have to do this, you've already got your contract.'

^this is maybe top ten shittiest things i've ever heard

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:14 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, re-reading that, Robert Kraft sounds like a total dick.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link

bob kraft is a slimeball

Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

i think bob was probably joking but otherwise yes

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2012/07/Robert-Kraft-Ricki-Lander-e1343483592259.png

"You don't have to do this, you've already got your contract."

pplains, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

ha

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link

i am grateful for how he runs the pats but, considering him as an individual, i can't get past the blue shirt with the white collar.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link

the whole thing where his old lady dies and its the biggest tragedy in the history of dead wives, and then a few months later hes porking the christ out of a 20 year old model, is pretty gross to me.

Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:24 (eleven years ago) link

or at least a little tacky.

Hungry4Ass, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link

AH - Mr. Kraft, I... I...
RK - Get the fuck in here lil Gronk, you're wetting up my foyer with your eye-pussy juice.
AH - Um, Mr. Kraft I just... I wanted...
RK - Spit it out Frankenstein.
AH - ...um... I wanted to contribute this five figure check in honor of Ms. Kraft.
RK - What? I'm not married!
AH - The late Ms. Kraft.
RK - Oh! Right! Her. Lemme see that.
AH - Here you go sir.
RK - Hm. Four zeros, huh? You know we already signed you right?
AH - Sir?
RK - You've already got your contract. Nobody likes a brown noser.
AH - No, it makes me feel good and I want to do it.
RK - Eh, whatever. Look, you want a kleenex or something? You got snot on your jersey.

This cad needs a cordial introduction to Eugene of Oxbow. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

:O

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 29 August 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link

hoyer released. was on the cards.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:20 (eleven years ago) link

branch released! so NOT on the cards. wtf

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

so no branch, gaffney, or stallworth??

call all destroyer, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link

rip patritos cool branch

johnny crunch, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, all gone. welker, lloyd, edelman, slater as the principal WR corps.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

*waves goodbye*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 August 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

i will keep my team name in memoriam

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link

patriots wish every receiver was a slot receiver.

call all destroyer, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

clearly there is a plan in mind here, but i am not sure what it is. i guess maybe they plan to keep one of those middling fullbacks they had in camp, play a ton of 1FB/2TE and 3TE. brady can't be happy to see all those WRs melt away.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

they haven't thrown to the second non-slot wr in years, guess they figure why start now.

call all destroyer, Friday, 31 August 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link

As much as I love Branch, I can't say that he was that central to their strategy last year. I feel confident that they'll manage to be successful without him.

Moodles, Friday, 31 August 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link

koppen moving on is sad but he is clearly done

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 31 August 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4728508/resetting-the-53-man-roster

the 53 as it currently stands. only 22/53 on offense, when was the last time a team put together a roster with 4 RB, 4 TE and 4 WR

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:39 (eleven years ago) link

kinda surprised that tarpanian got cut

call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:50 (eleven years ago) link

yeah 2 or 3 mid roster guys on D that stepped in and did a job last year got dumped. these are low profile players that i think bill figures are unlikely to get picked up and will be there if needed through the season.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 1 September 2012 02:02 (eleven years ago) link

get excited: in the scouting report reiss pulled on this greg salas guy, he is described as a potential 'jason avant type'

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 1 September 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link

did you all see this article about gronk and his family

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1205810/2/index.htm

As Dan recalls, after the first week Welker said, "I thought I was going to have two idiots sitting next to me in the locker room, but Dan's a little more intelligent than Rob."

That notorious Super Bowl party the night of the Patriots' loss, at which he got drunk and took off his shirt? "Dude, it was the Patriots fans who got me drunk!" he told me, incredulous. "What was I supposed to do, turn down the shots?"

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 10 September 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

The WiFi network at his house is labeled BigG; his ringtone is the guitar riff from George Thorogood's Bad to the Bone.

on page 1 and this article is already priceless

call all destroyer, Monday, 10 September 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

And there it was: a vast subterranean weight room with a 10-foot ceiling ("so you can do proper pull-ups," Gordy said), riven by heating ducts and exposed pipes. ... This is where three of the boys, particularly Rob and Glenn, did much of their weight training, roaring at each other the Gronkowski training motto: "Do it to get chicks!"

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 06:45 (eleven years ago) link

new board description imo

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 06:45 (eleven years ago) link

branch is coming back. no great surprise.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 19 September 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://i537.photobucket.com/albums/ff331/itsme131313/FaEHZ.jpg

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

amazing

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 14:57 (eleven years ago) link

oh hey is cadfap still happening

I might be late due to completely forgetting about a reunion event happening this weekend

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link

yeah if u guys are still down

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

I'm supposed to be at a reunion singthrough from 2 until 4; what I may actually do is leave at 3 or just skip it altogether (since there will be a dinner the previous night)

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

cad i will be there unless you inform me otherwise, and maybe even still then. on for the 1pm games and the pats at 4?

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

oh wait I thought the Pats were playing at 1, they're at 4? YAY CONFLICT MOSTLY RESOLVED

set me on fire RAAAAH (DJP), Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

yeah pats at 4:25 tbh.

i'll be ready to go at 1:00!

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

regardless of the result in the end today, there is something wrong with this team, i think, behind the scenes. overall coaching is unrecognizably poor and mentally something with the players is off.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 21 October 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link

nods sagely

let's have sex and then throw pottery (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 21 October 2012 23:54 (eleven years ago) link

regardless of the result in the end today, there is something wrong with this team, i think, behind the scenes. overall coaching is unrecognizably poor and mentally something with the players is off.

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, October 21, 2012 7:51 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otmfm

call all destroyer, Monday, 22 October 2012 01:54 (eleven years ago) link

if i were to try to find a positive spin for it, i would say they are showing exactly the kind of basic mental errors and failure of leadership as a tom coughlin championship winning team in regular season. but...

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 October 2012 01:59 (eleven years ago) link

I like the old red unis though.

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 22 October 2012 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

talib! cool guy.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:15 (eleven years ago) link

a real cornerback! i haven't seen what NE gave for him tho. and for tampa to give him i figure his off-field issues are legit.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

housecleaning by that asshole who coaches the bucs, doubt they gave up much

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link

more like a favor from schiano to his old buddy bill. Cheatriots at it again.

turds (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link

:(

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

gave up a 4th and a 7th next year

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

oh sorry a 4th for talib and a 7th

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

talib was a 1st round just a few years ago, and doesn't seem to have played too far off that level. don't really get this but am tentatively psyched.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:00 (eleven years ago) link

he might be a really bad guy and he's a fa at the end of the year. tampa didn't want him around.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

"One player said the most excitement in post-game locker room wasn't for AFC East title, but when Bill Belichick gave them Monday off"

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 2 December 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link

anonymous player otm, i would like monday off too

call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 December 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link

all pats fans should get monday off, good idea

we should've had this law implemented when scott brown was president

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 2 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link

edelman on IR :(

they're bringing stallworth back again

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, sucks

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 23:50 (eleven years ago) link

:D

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

they're bringing stallworth back again

― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, December 4, 2012 6:50 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

stallworth injured has ankle on the td catch and has been placed on ir. thanks for the memories, donte

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

lol you're fucking kidding

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link

i could not make up something so elegant.

branch is coming back. shancoe also release so maybe gronk is back?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link

http://prod.static.patriots.clubs.nfl.com/assets/images/music-player-photos/500x305-audio-bill-belichick-2013.jpg

honestly, is he smiling or disgusted?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ddBoE.png

turn that smilefrown upside down, billy boy

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 17 December 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link

hahah

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

XD

and actually somewhat disconcerting

call all destroyer, Monday, 17 December 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link

shades of Cowher

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

that is not a book I would like to read

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

the phrase "sexual burpee" will haunt you until the end of time

Jesus, the Total Douchebag (DJP), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link

*cries*

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 17 December 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks to the generosity of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, the IFL is sponsored by the Kraft Family.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c2/IFL-logo.JPG

turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link

dreidel spin instead of coin toss

johnny crunch, Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link

Models must serve two years in military before auditioning in front of green screens.

pplains, Sunday, 23 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link

brian hoyer in at qb for arizona?!

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 23 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

sure, why not

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link

beast mode!!!

almost had a typo there "best mode," that too

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link

kaepernick looks stressed

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

awww sorry wrong thread!

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 24 December 2012 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

“I wear them, they’re comfortable, they work for me, I don’t have to wear regular clothes,” (Ridley) said. “I wake up in the morning, put my underwear on, jump in my onesie and I’m out the door. It saves time. I get more sleep if I wear a onesie because I don’t have to wear regular clothes.”

He has given them to teammates, and even left one for Bill Belichick last week.

“I’m going to see if I can get him to wear it — it’s got the sleeves cut off and everything so he’s ready to go,” Ridley said, laughing. “He has no excuse.”

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 30 December 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

Ridley FTW

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 30 December 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2013/01/texans_arian_fo.html

arian foster is the best

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 January 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

lol

Shaughnessy hates the Pats far more than the Texans do imo

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 7 January 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

I loved how Arian said he didn't believe in momentum in the postgame interview against cincy, after being asked the classic inane "will this win give you momentum going into next week?"

running like a young deer (symsymsym), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 07:55 (eleven years ago) link

Talk about what a win like this means for your team.

pplains, Tuesday, 8 January 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link

just taking it week by week

What am I, in France? (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

patriots pr0n:

Ironically, the "old news" and ensuing four-game suspension earlier this season, said Talib, ended up being the "best thing" that ever happened to his football career.

Three weeks into the suspension, he became a Patriot.

Recalling the day, he smiled from ear to ear.

"I had heard about the Patriots and the way they do things, all that stuff," said Talib. "You know what? It's true. This is heaven. This is football heaven."
...

"I love him. Everybody here loves him," said Patriots safety Patrick Chung. "He has fit in really well. He has a lot of confidence. He can cover. He can tackle. I couldn't say enough good things about Aqib. He's the real deal."

Apparently, the feelings are more than mutual.

"As soon as you walk in the building you notice it," said Talib. "It's all about team here. Everybody is a professional. I have never experienced anything like this. I see the owner, Mr. (Robert) Kraft every day. That's amazing, man. Coach Belichick treats everybody like a man, with respect. He's a cool guy."

Talib could go on. And he did.

"I am a Patriot," said Talib. "It feels like I was meant to be here ... The coaches here are so good, too. It's all about football. It's one day at a time. It's the perfect place to play football. I don't know what else to say."

Even coach Bill Belichick, a man of few words, sings Talib's praises.

"There's no doubt that Aqib has helped our secondary," he said. "He's a very smart and confident player who works hard. He has a good attitude and he fits in well. I've enjoyed coaching him."

...

"I don't want to talk about the future," said Talib. "I'm only focused on today. And when I come here tomorrow, I'll be focused on tomorrow ... But if you ask me if this is where I want to be? Of course, I do. Every player should play here."

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

also the first time in history bill belichick has been called a "cool guy"

an eagle named "small government" (call all destroyer), Tuesday, 8 January 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://www.thuzio.com/all/football/kevin-faulk.html

let's play poker with kevin faulk!

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link

Can ILX pool together some money to discuss end of year critic's polls with Kevin Faulk?

Moodles, Wednesday, 30 January 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

go with god, pat chung

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 00:31 (eleven years ago) link

iirc pats reporters have been saying since midway last season that chung was done in NE

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago) link

oh yeah, he was done

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 02:58 (eleven years ago) link

lol weird

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link

Linda Holliday @Linda_Holliday

No- short armsRT @RingPRgirl: @Linda_Holliday Any sweatshirts with sleeves?

lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

NFL Draft Bible ‏@NFLDraftBible
It's official. Wes Welker to the Broncos. 2-yr deal.

booooooooo

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:19 (eleven years ago) link

ha people pointing out that welker changed his twitter avatar yesterday to a pic of him and his wife in aspen with Colorado flag hat.

ILX is closing (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

pats only offered 10m over 2 years? lol

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

bye Welkah, next time try not to drop the ball when it hits you in the numbers during a major playoff game

Moodles, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:32 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's right, fuck that guy.

denver come to foxboro next season

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link

things that are cheap: talk, patriots ownership

ILX is closing (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

supposedly landed amendola

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

on a 5-year deal

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

if you believe that staying healthy is a skill it's hard to get excited about this

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

stockpiling injury prone inside receivers in the hope that at least one of them is fit for any given game.

amendola will do well when he is on the field

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:41 (eleven years ago) link

woah now, 31m over 5 yrs! i hope half of that is in the 5th year

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link

chicago kevin wrote this on thread the rolling OFFSEASON MOVES thread on board I Love NFL on Mar 12, 2007

i don't know what his contract looks like but i'd wager he would. i think the depth chart will probably be something like:

wr 1- richochet caldwell/stallworth
wr 2- caldwell/stallworth/gaffney
wr3- caldwell/stallworth/gaffney
wr4- troy brown/chad jackson/welker
wr5 -brown/jackson/welker/whatever other scrubs they sign.

brown's probably gone now thtat i look at it.

-

chicago kevin wrote this on thread the rolling OFFSEASON MOVES thread on board I Love NFL on Mar 13, 2007

with brown probably on his way out and kevin faulk entering the twilight of his career welker will probably be used primarily (if not solely) on special teams. i would be shocked if welker is anything more than a #3 receiver, i think he'll be situational at best.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:56 (eleven years ago) link

not chicago kevin's finest moment

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 23:59 (eleven years ago) link

thats prob what most people thought tho

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:00 (eleven years ago) link

he was not a famous popular nfl receiver at the time

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:01 (eleven years ago) link

yeah there were a few '06 dolphins games that made me take notice but not everyone saw those games i'm sure

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link

i do remember liking the signing, he seemed like a great breakout candidate, though not to the levels he achieved

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

playing with tom brady is pretty sweet

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

underestimate "good guy" receivers with "intangibles" and "grittiness" and "a superior work ethic" at your own risk is the lesson here

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

it was so sweet for chad jackson, and donte stallworth, and chad johnson, and brandon tate, and joey galloway

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

life is a pretty sweet fruit

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:11 (eleven years ago) link

there are only so many balls

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

(fruits)

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2013 00:16 (eleven years ago) link

i wanna go on record as saying that i was a fan of welker in his fins which is why i have ridden him to high regular season fantasy records and then fallen apart in the playoffs for many a year

the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 March 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

one of many many reasons tbh

the craziest half-court shots and wildest WAGs (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 March 2013 03:59 (eleven years ago) link

let the record show that forks has long loved welkah

selah

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 March 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link

NE did give up a 2nd rounder for Welker, who was coming off a 67-cath season, it's not like he was some nobody

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 14 March 2013 04:32 (eleven years ago) link

welker was a scrubs in an all-fitting uniform on his way outta the league until we picked him up outta the dirt, wiped the chocolate off his face, and taught him how to run a 3 yard crossing route. we made him like eddie murphy in trading places and he turned on us, like eddie murphy in trading places. why didn't we watch the film to the end?? and now he's gone. forever lost to us. and he will look so terrible in orange and blue.

just have to hold it together until simmons drags some fallacious but comforting bullshit out of his ass about how the pats will be much better without him because of something to do with la law.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 14 March 2013 09:31 (eleven years ago) link

Yet even after Welker received a two-year, $12 million offer from the Broncos on Wednesday, a call was made to the Patriots to see if the club would sweeten its offer. The Patriots did not have an immediate response, which led some in Welker's camp to believe a better offer was a possibility in part to keep him away from the Broncos, one of their top competitors in the AFC. Ultimately, the club informed Welker and his representatives that they had entered into another commitment, which Welker's camp assumed all along was Amendola.

So Welker called the Broncos -- who, according to a source, were initially concerned about insulting Welker with their offer because they already had made other financial commitments -- and told them he was on board.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9050742/2013-nfl-free-agency-new-england-patriots-quickly-shifted-wes-welker-danny-amendola

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

weird

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

hell be good for manning since he catches mostly short passes anyway

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 March 2013 12:47 (eleven years ago) link

getting real tired of all these articles speculating how betrayed and angry Brady is after the Welker deal

Moodles, Thursday, 14 March 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

talib and arrington back
adrian wilson in - i don't know how much more he has, but pats don't have much at safety
donald jones - never saw much to get excited about with him, but have to assume something is there
emmanuel sanders - great pick up if it gets confirmed, sounds like it will

danny woodhead to chargers. he generally did a good job, sad to see him go. hope he is getting paid somewhat

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 16 March 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

wow awesome getting talib on a 1-year deal

call all destroyer, Saturday, 16 March 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

e. sanders signs offer sheet, let's see what sburgh do. this would be a great way to spend a 3rd round pick imo.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

yup--from what i've seen it will be tough for the steelers to match

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4744064/soundbites-from-scarnecchia

Dante Scarnecchia is the best dude, i hope he somehow lives forever and never retires

"You have to prove yourself every day in this league. If you don’t, if you’re not willing to prove yourself every day and [you’re] complacent, it will be a [butt]-kicking of astronomical proportions. None of us want that.”

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 5 June 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

whoa

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

Again I say WHAT IN THEE FUCK

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

hernandez shooting someone in the face after an argument at a strip club makes his post-TD celebration juuuuuuuust slightly less charming

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link

Trying to make a Cheney/Hernandez joke but it's not jelling :-(

keyser saucy vagina (DJP), Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link

glad k3v is safely out of the country

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 19 June 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link

it's looking increasingly like this dude's career/life is over

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link

A law enforcement official tells FOX 25 Hernandez appears to be directly tied to the homicide which is why authorities executed a search warrant at his home Tuesday night. According to the same source, Hernandez, Lloyd, and two other men were at a bar in Boston the night of the homicide, and at some point, the four men left together in a car driven by Hernandez which was confirmed by a text Lloyd sent another friend, the source says.

It is unclear where the car went or what happened during the ride, but according to the source only three men returned to Hernandez's home at the end of the night and Lloyd was not one of them.

The source also says forensic evidence places a vehicle driven by Hernandez at one of the crime scenes in this case.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 20 June 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link

I haven't followed his off the field antics, gronk's were always overshadowing his I guess. He was pretty uncontroversial up until now yeah?

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 20 June 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link

no he dropped to the fourth round because of off the field stuff

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 03:43 (ten years ago) link

just weed tho right?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link

he shot some guy and smoked his weed

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

well now there has been some reporting that teams were concerned about potential gang affiliations http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130619/aaron-hernandez-history/

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

fuck

Steve Silva ‏@stevesilva 5m
Hearing via law enforcement source that Aaron Hernandez will be arrested in connection with the North Attleborough murder

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

it is weird to see Attleborough written out. especially on twitter, that is a rookie move.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

what is the most serious crime a regular serving nfl player has been convicted of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rae_Carruth

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link

damn this is really fucked up. What a weird week.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link

:(

call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 June 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link

wow
not to be crass but i imagine timmy moves to te for sure now, yes?

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 20 June 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

the pats are deeper at TE than anyone in the league

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

and every last one is eccentric in his own special way

Moodles, Thursday, 20 June 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link

pats' basic formation on offense this year will be 3 RBs and a fullback

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

Apparently Channel 5 currently has a helicopter following Hernandez's SUV as it drives through Dedham.

DJP, Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/New_England_Patriots_TE_Aaron_Hernandez_questioned_in_murder_probe

I mean, who cares this deeply about were Hernandez is going that WCVB decided they needed to devote a live feed and a helicopter to it??

DJP, Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

stories of pending arrest seem to be premature at best rn

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link

I will admit I checked that live feed to see if his SUV was white (it was)

DJP, Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

lol

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 20 June 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link

ABC News reporting Hernandez destroyed home security system, cell phone handed over "in pieces."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aaron-hernandez-destroyed-home-security-system-phone-sources/story?id=19445131#.UcNC9ZUmTc4

Cool plan, Aaron!

polyphonic, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

yeah this guy's never playing a down of football again

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link

this is completely terrible but I keep thinking Tebow is cursing the bad aim of his smite prayers, completely not picking up on the heavy-handed hints God is giving him

DJP, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

At best he's accessory/conspiracy.

polyphonic, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

it's going to be pretty tough nailing Tebow as an accessory no matter how hard he prayed

Moodles, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

Investigators have also searched three Enterprise rental cars that were registered to the NFL star, including one that had its silver mirror knocked off. That vehicle, sources said, was recovered at an Enterprise location in Boston Wednesday, a day after police issued a BOLO [Be On The Lookout] for it. The sources said it had been dropped off abruptly sometime Tuesday with the broken mirror.

#BOLO

DJP, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

it's going to be pretty tough nailing Tebow as an accessory no matter how hard he prayed

Ryan certainly treated him like an accessory lol

polyphonic, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link

At best he's accessory/conspiracy.

― polyphonic, Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:17 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

they're gonna charge him with first degree murder

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link

all he did was pray to become the Pats starting quarterback, sheesh

DJP, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

they're gonna charge him with first degree murder

Yeah it definitely looks that way.

polyphonic, Thursday, 20 June 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

can't believe aaron hernandez spent his offseason executing guys in empty fields (wild speculation with the plurals but still...)

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

well one guy he tried to kill inside a car

J0rdan S., Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

"god bless"

a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Thursday, 20 June 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

As Aaron Hernandez finds himself a suspect in the homicide of a Boston man and the subject of ridiculous media coverage, Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel has released details of another shooting investigation that occurred while the tight end attended the University of Florida in 2007.

From Bianchi:

When Hernandez was at UF, he was once questioned, along with three other Gator football players, about a shooting in Gainesvile. None of the players were arrested, but detectives questioned Hernandez in the shootings of Corey Smith and Justin Glass about 2:30 a.m. after Florida lost to Auburn in 2007. According to a Sentinel report at the time, police said Smith, 28, and Glass, 19, were driving around in traffic about 2:30 a.m. Sunday when a man began shooting into their car. Smith was critically wounded in the head while Glass was shot in the arm.

Hernandez declined to discuss the case with reporters back then and was never charged with any crime.

The Urban Meyer era in Gainesville was marred by a long list of varying criminal charges and investigations, as at least 25 of his players were arrested between 2005 and 2010. In 2009, the Sentinel called local defense attorney Huntley Johnson the team's "defensive MVP" for his work in handling a majority of the student-athletes' cases. After taking the Ohio State job in November 2011, Meyer said that the arrests during his time at Florida were “exaggerated."

Bianchi also relayed details of an incident from very early in Hernadez’s Gators career:

However, when Hernandez first enrolled at UF, he was arrested as a 17-year-old juvenile after an altercation at local campus hangout known as The Swamp. Hernandez received deferred prosecution.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 20 June 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link

haha okay so now Hernandez has disappeared from the media's scrutiny

DJP, Friday, 21 June 2013 04:17 (ten years ago) link

lol @ this comment from PFT

"Anybody else keep hearing the “dung-dung” from Law & Order in their head when these stories post?"

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 21 June 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link

heh

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 June 2013 05:38 (ten years ago) link

http://abcnews.go.com/US/aaron-hernandez-arrest-warrant-issued-obstruction-ustice-charge/story?id=19453898#.UcRIm5z4Kpc

arrest warrant is in, obstruction of ustice according to the url. who is ustice, and why was he obstructed. if tv is any guide to real life, this is an easy minor charge they can hold him on while they fuck with him and get their shit together for a big boy charge

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 21 June 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link

  • the security system at Hernandez's home, which included video – had been intentionally destroyed
  • His cell phone was handed over to police "in pieces," and appeared to have been smashed.
  • Police also want to know why a team of house cleaners were hired on Monday to scrub Hernandez's mansion
  • Hernandez and the victim, Odin Lloyd, 27, a semi-pro football player, had been together at several nightclubs during the course of the weekend, including the night before Lloyd's body was found
  • Lloyd's body was found shot in the back of the head in a scrubby clearing of an industrial park roughly a mile from the Patriots star's $1.7 million mansion

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 21 June 2013 13:05 (ten years ago) link

idk the MA criminal code but destroying dna or other evidence in a murder case has got to be a significant sentence even if he isnt or isnt proven to be the perpetrator

i think they were threatening adrianna la cerva with about 7 years for that, which is a solid precedent although that was in new jersey and not in reality

obstruction of justice charges don't carry huge penalties... if he wasn't involved in the murder and flipped on whoever was, then he'd get off w/ probation or something

that said it still seems very possible that he was involved in the murder

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 June 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link

i think ray lewis pled to obstruction charges, he didn't do any jail time iirc

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 June 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link

he's doing a really good job of acting exactly like someone who committed murder

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 June 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link

hahaha yes

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 June 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/21/within-days-of-draft-hernandez-threatened-welker/

In an anecdote near the bottom of a longer report, it was mentioned that Hernandez was at the team facility trying to watch film, when he grew frustrated at not being able to operate the equipment. Wide receiver Wes Welker walked by, Hernandez asked for help, and Welker replied: “Rookie, you figure it out.”

According to the report, Hernandez “responded with expletives.”

The Globe being a family publication, didn’t expound, but one of their reporters did on Twitter.

According to Shalise Manza Young, Hernandez’s reply was “f— you Wes, I’ll f— you up!“

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 21 June 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link

hernandez then shot welker in the face

J0rdan S., Friday, 21 June 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link

lol. that is some weak shit right there.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 21 June 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZrNcY08Y6lI#t=63s

lol Three different people said "He could kill you with..."

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 21 June 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

"he could kill you with a smile" xp

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Friday, 21 June 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

these hernandez stories coming out of the woodwork are fucking lame

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 June 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

I feel like everyone has said that to Wes Welker at one time or another

DJP, Friday, 21 June 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link

i know, right!?

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 June 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link

I feel like an nfl player says that to another nfl player at least 3x every single practice or game

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 21 June 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

"...and then Hernandez looked me in the eye and said 'I will kill your motherfucking labradoodle with my BARE FUCKING HANDS' and brandished a gun"

DJP, Friday, 21 June 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

I'm worried about k3vin finding out this news.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 21 June 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link

"fudge, you bitches"

DJP, Friday, 21 June 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

in a bizarre outburst in a boston area karaoke bar, hernandez was heard declaring to shocked onlookers "16 in the clip and one in the hole,
nate dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold". he continued to describe how he "laid all them busters down" and "let [his] gat explode".

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 21 June 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 June 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

in fairness, the song on the prompter was "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman"

DJP, Friday, 21 June 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link

haha

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 21 June 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

you don't wanna hear what he did the night when he got fajitas at Chilis and they weren't sizzlin

Neanderthal, Friday, 21 June 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link

THE FAJITAS AT CHILIS ARE ALWAYS SIZZLIN DON'T TALK SHIT

*shoots neanderthal*

personal yeezus (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 21 June 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

this is really messed up :(

i haven't had the heart to ask my best friend what he knows

rip neanderthal

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 June 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link

by "what he knows" i mean if he's talked to him, he's not involved at all

the hell is going on there with his arms/shirt?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link

apparently he destroyed his arms so they couldn't be used in evidence against him

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link

i would guess he was shirtless when they busted in and cuffed him, and they just threw the shirt over the top for decency

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

I like your first theory

DJP, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link

esp. imagining how he destroyed that second arm

DJP, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

apparently he destroyed his arms so they couldn't be used in evidence against him

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:14 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link

HOLY SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

New England Patriots ‏@Patriots 1m
The New England #Patriots have released Aaron Hernandez.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link

piiiiiiiiiiiiss

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link

it turns out he had diabetes

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

DJP, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link

ice cold

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

lol j0rd

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link

it seems v odd that that was broken on the official twitter, right?

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link

fucking hell

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link

The team said in a statement: "A young man was murdered last week and we extend our sympathies to the family and friends who mourn his loss. Words cannot express the disappointment we feel knowing that one of our players was arrested as a result of this investigation. We realize that law enforcement investigations into this matter are ongoing. We support their efforts and respect the process. At this time, we believe this transaction is simply the right thing to do."

Šite New Answers (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link

Hernandez, wearing a white V-neck T-shirt, long red athletic shorts and black sneakers, was led around 9 a.m. ET from the front door of his mansion with his hands in handcuffs behind his back inside the shirt and placed into a police cruiser, which quickly drove away.

He casually spit into some bushes on his way to the car.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link

"wearing" a white v-neck t-shirt.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

"yeah this motherfucker is guilty" -- the patriots

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

so, with no one to throw the ball to now, i guess the pats need a different type of qb

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

can't really blame the Patriots, in fact I'm glad they took this step. If Hernandez somehow got through this with little or no punishment, I would not feel very comfortable with the Pats holding on to him. I don't want a Ben Roethlisberger or a Ray Lewis on the team. I don't want to have to make excuses for someone or watch fans celebrate a criminal.

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

xpost

good thing they have Tebow!!!!

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link

almost a little too convenient

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link

Dude's going to carry the team all by himself. Can he play QB and TE at the same time?

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link

needs homicide detectives to give him a big white T

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link

pretty convenient that this happens on the same day that the Supreme Court was to rule on DOMA. Is someone trying to throw off the scent? A fitting allegory, a Patriot being thrown in jail, all for the convenience of our fearless leader.

Your time is coming. There are only so many players that can commit convenient homicides for you. THIS IS OBAMA'S AMERICA!

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link

charged with murder

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link

holy shit

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link

where is this being reported? had to admit that I was holding out hope that he wasn't the main suspect.

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link

from USA today

NORTH ATTLEBOROUGH, Mass. - Former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez has been charged with murder in the death of 27-year-old semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd, who was found shot execution-style about a half-mile from Hernandez's home.

Hernandez appeared in a packed courtroom number one at Attleboro District Court, where he faces five charges, the most significant being murder. Hernandez also faces charges of possessing a firearm without a license, possessing a large capacity firearm and a firearm without an ID card.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link

yikes! I'd like to know if the investigators have been able to determine at all what circumstances led to the murder.

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link

it seems like the only way hernandez could've left more evidence connecting him to this murder would be if he had autographed the corpse

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link

such an unbelievable story and what an incredible fuckup.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link

"81" scrawled in blood on the dead man's shirt

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

https://twitter.com/AaronHernandez

no wonder I didn't look for this before, there's not much activity

DJP, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link

http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive

live feed of DA owning hernandez

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

THIS GUY LITERALLY CHEWED GUM AND LEFT IT AT THE CRIME SCENE

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

lol he left bullet casings in his rental

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

Aaron Hernandez ‏@AaronHernandez 18 Jun

good morning

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link

Prosecutor says Hernandez's home video shows person emerge from car with a gun and walk through Hernandez's house with the gun.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link

did he seriously think he'd get away with it or did he just not care? this whole thing is pretty unfathomable to me.

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link

good free promotion for bubblelicious

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link

bizarre

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

maybe he confessed or they have an eyewitness and that let the pats know to cut ties?

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

https://twitter.com/AaronHernandez/status/165666851257466880

am0n, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link

no bail #RIP

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link

Sort of an answer to my question:

Wesley Lowery @WesleyLowery
Prosecutor: #Hernandez mad that Lloyd talked to people he didn't like on previous Friday night at Club Rumor.

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

........

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link

...so he shot him

Moodles, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link

it happens

DJP, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link

Were they dating?

polyphonic, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link

xpost I cannot believe Hernandez executed the man because he was talking to people he didn't approve of. That's a level of insanity I cannot fathom unless Hernandez is a true psychopath. Aren't most psychopaths intelligent?

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link

Either way, what a waste.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link

well clearly there's more to it than "he didn't like them"

but as far as executions go this is one of the dumbest i've ever heard of

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link

A dude was killed for what seems like the stupidest of reasons by, presumably, someone who was dumb enough to leave shell casings in the car, chewing gum at the murder location, be caught on his own home surveillance system walking around with a gun, trying to destroy that very surveillance system, breaking his cellphone, and hiring an outside company to clean his house top to bottom the day of the murder. It sounds like to me that he just lost his temper and, instead of walking away like an adult, acted like a dumbass and offed the dude with no plans in place to cover his tracks.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

KPS 8:29 PM
Regardless of this guys innocence or guilt, the came to the Pats with serious known issues. Amazing how a guy like Tebow gets trashed for his efforts to be a decent person, but guys like this get a pass.

Šite New Answers (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

crazy thing is it doesn't even seem impulsive, like the dude pulled a spider and told him to fuck off and hernandez shot him in a flash of anger. sounds like a planned execution.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link

i just have to say, to no one in particular, i am aware hernandez came out of college with "issues" (tho i might debate "serious") but afaicr in the years he was in new england there was no indication, like not even a hint of a rumor, that he was doing anything he wasn't supposed to be doing.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

I don't think Tebow gets trashed for his efforts to be a decent person!

polyphonic, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link

a guy like Tebow gets trashed for his efforts to be a decent person

best troll ever

a hand, palming an ilx face forever (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link

kind of annoys me that to do jail time as an active NFL player, you essentially have ot murder someone (or run a dogfighting ring), when people like Leonard Little can kill people while driving drunk and keep getting DUIs after and only go on probation, but...I'm glad at least they nabbed Hernandez and that the Patriots did the right thing in cutting him.

someone call up Steve Harvey so he can do his RaeCarruth2013 rant on Hernandez.

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

cad otm, hernandez actually seemed like a model professional since he joined the pats, cf glowing character ref from kraft when extension was signed.

also, it seems like there was very little planned about this murder. i think the media got carried away with the "execution style" excitement.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link

i am assuming that means like one shot between the eyes or something? that is how i do my executions at any rate

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

it was a little hard to grasp the details and timeline but it seems premeditated if not exactly "orchestrated"

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

well it seems like they took him to a secluded area specifically to murder him... they didn't shoot him in the head though which is how most people picture executions

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

oh so he wasn't shot in the house?

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

maybe he shot him in the leg as a warning and it bounced up into his heart

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

Wesley Lowery ‏@WesleyLowery 21m
To be clear: DA's saying #hernandez shot Lloyd three times right after Lloyd got out of the car. Then stood over him & put two in his chest.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

If the murder took place at the industrial park ~ 03:00 AM, doesn't it seem pretty pre-planned?

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

Sorry, xpost :)

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

tied a bandana around his eyes, gave him a last cigarette

am0n, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

yeah if i'm reading it right he sent a text from the car on the way to where they killed him. driving someone out somewhere to kill them = execution.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

damn

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

do you have a last emoji youd like to send

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

A buddy of mine (who's a Dolphin's fan) said he read from some Dolphn's message board fans hoping the Dolphins sign him if he ends up being acquitted - lol. That's how you know your team hasn't been very successful the past 15 years.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, 26 June 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

@Kato_Kaelin
I swear I did NOT live in Aaron Hernandez's Guest House.#havemyowncouch

polyphonic, Wednesday, 26 June 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link

Hi there

Moodles, Thursday, 27 June 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link

hope we find in his twitter drafts the 2010s 'if i did it'

johnny crunch, Thursday, 27 June 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link

xpost I cannot believe Hernandez executed the man because he was talking to people he didn't approve of. That's a level of insanity I cannot fathom unless Hernandez is a true psychopath. Aren't most psychopaths intelligent?

― Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:55 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

aaron is not intelligent

all of this, yeesh. this is as good a time as any to mention that one of his favorite phrases was "killin it!" :(

k3vin k., Thursday, 27 June 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link

i saw a comedy show tonight where the guys opening bit was "if you're a homophobe or a patriots fan, it's been a hell of a bad day hasn't it? And there's a lot of overlap there!"

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 04:30 (ten years ago) link

um ok

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 June 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9427402/aaron-hernandez-fooled-everyone-including-new-england-patriots

i don't love the tone of assumed guilt even tho, y'know, but this is a great up-close perspective relating to what cad said y'day about hernandez since he entered the league

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 June 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link

I'm finally catching up on some of the details of this thanks to a handy ESPN.com timeline and OMG:


  • Lloyd’s body was found at an industrial park half a mile from Hernandez’s home. In Lloyd’s pocket, McCauley said, were keys to a car Hernandez had rented.
  • At 3:30 a.m. on June 17, just minutes after prosecutors say several witnesses have sworn they heard gunshots at the industrial park, Hernandez could be seen on video at his home brandishing a weapon.

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link

he's now being investigated for a double murder

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

holy shit

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link

is there anyone he didn't kill?

Moodles, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link

Any of us (yet)

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link

a bold new strategy for Zimmerman's lawyers

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link

http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/boston-south/vehicle-towed-conn-home-searched-in-hernandez-case/-/9848842/20735248/-/5x633o/-/index.html?absolute=true&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=wcvb

okay this puts a much more understandable spin on the "he was talking to people hostile to Hernandez" thing (I know J0rd mentioned this already but here are more details)

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

yes that would certainly explain it

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

man... imagine if he had played the entire 2012 season after committing a double murder

wild

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link

okay, so maybe hernandez thinks he's heading off retaliation for the first shooting? this is all pretty fucked.

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link

or just killing a guy with a blabby mouth

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

^^^

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

Occam's Razor etc

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link

cutting pretty close there

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link

unfortunate display name

@@ron h3rnandez is coming to hang out at my apartment tonight, n/h

― originoo gun kl0pper (k3vin k.), Saturday, January 29, 2011 3:27 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

johnny crunch, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

I was joking about the psychopath comment above, but if these latest allegations are true, wow.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link

Hernandez became a father on Nov. 6 and said he intended to change his ways: "Now, another one is looking up to me. I can't just be young and reckless Aaron no more. I'm going to try to do the right things."

polyphonic, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link

I am only going to kill for the right reasons

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link

the jigsaw pieces are fitting together a little too cleanly here. CIA conspiracy right?

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 June 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link

Odin Lloyd (3:07 a.m.): "Did you see who I am with?"

[no response]

Odin Lloyd (3:11 a.m.): "Hello?"

Sister (3:19 a.m.): "My was phone dead. Who?"

Odin Lloyd (3:22 a.m.): "NFL."

Odin Lloyd (3:23 a.m.): "Just so you know."

Lloyd's sister saw him leave the house with Hernandez and two other men at 2:30 a.m., the prosecution says.

The prosecution says Lloyd was murdered between 3:23 and 3:27, and that workers in a nearby plant heard gunshots.

He was 27.

Shock G Mo Collier (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

breaking: police uncover mass grave in gillette stadium end zone

am0n, Thursday, 27 June 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link

(CNN) -- Aaron Hernandez, the former NFL tight end charged with murder in the death last week of an acquaintance, is now being investigated in connection with a double slaying in Boston's South End in July 2012, a law enforcement source close to the investigation told CNN.

The source gave no indication whether there was any connection between that investigation and Hernandez's current murder charge.

What is known is that the Boston Police Department has located and impounded a silver SUV with Rhode Island registration that police have been trying to find for almost a year, that's linked to the scene of a double homicide in 2012, the source said.

Investigators believe that Hernandez was renting the SUV at the time of those killings, the source said.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 27 June 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link

Hernandez cleared waivers

polyphonic, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link

cleaved wavers

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

the jets should pick him up

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

i had a quick look at jets msgboards to see if i could find something good and although there was a good amount of sticking the knife in, as often people were saying "but seriously, if this guy is available and they let him play..."

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

hahahahaha omg

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link

oh man there's more! hernandez is now being linked to a brutal choking that took place in indianapolis in feb 2012

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

haaaaaaaaa

DJP, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link

loll

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link

sorry that was a horrible groaner but once it formed i had to get it out

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 June 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

source?

am0n, Thursday, 27 June 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

;-)

am0n, Thursday, 27 June 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

well then

@AdamSchefter: Boston PD has located red SUV with RI plates it was looking for as identified in July 2012 homicide. Hernandez rented it.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link

i guess he's not a serial killer in the true definition of the term but uhhhhhhhh

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link

he's somewhere between rae carruth and jimmy "the gent" burke

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 27 June 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

i don't think hernandez is a psychopath or anything... just a guy with a terrible combination of anger, hubris and stupidity

i mean the guy rented multiple cars IN HIS OWN NAME that he used in murders

J0rdan S., Thursday, 27 June 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link

breaking: police uncover mass grave in gillette stadium end zone

― am0n, Thursday, June 27, 2013 1:59 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

lol

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Thursday, 27 June 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link

i'm wondering about how they found this rental car, why it took so long to find it...is all this coming from unearthed witnesses rolling over on him?

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 June 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link

probably found his diary

Neanderthal, Friday, 28 June 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link

Colleague at work leans into my doorway this morning: "so... it turns out I'm neighbors with Aaron Hernandez". Me: "what?". She: "apparently he was renting one of the units at our complex. There was a black Hummer sitting in the parking lot, and they just towed it away".

collardio gelatinous, Friday, 28 June 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

They've probably gotten access to his credit card records and can track all his car rentals back for a few years and isolate VINs.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Friday, 28 June 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link

I’ve known Matt Light a long time and I have never - and I mean NEVER - heard him speak ill of another player, not even a defensive linemen like the New York Giants’ Osi Umenyiora with whom his classic battles in the NFL trenches have included some extra-curriculars after the whistle.

But Tuesday when I asked the former New England Patriot star tackle about his old teammate - tight end Aaron Hernandez - his easy smile quickly vanished and he went silent for several seconds as he decided what, if anything, he would say.

“I never talk about other guys, but I will say I have never embraced - never believed in - anything Aaron Hernandez stood for,” Light finally said.

i wanna be a gabbneb baby (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 28 June 2013 08:40 (ten years ago) link

what does that mean, what did hernandez stand for

am0n, Friday, 28 June 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

shooting ppl, apparently

DJP, Friday, 28 June 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

shootings which came to light a week ago, he always stood for them

am0n, Friday, 28 June 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link

stood for not returning rental cars apparently

Neanderthal, Friday, 28 June 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link

They've probably gotten access to his credit card records and can track all his car rentals back for a few years and isolate VINs.

― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever)

yeah i guess my question is wouldn't they have been able to figure it out before, if the car had been sought for awhile? maybe i'm misreading this part of the story. either way i wonder how many other people he may have actually murdered.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 June 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

probably combed twitter looking for victims

Neanderthal, Friday, 28 June 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

sounds like he adheres to the 'homie is that my briefcase' method of execution

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 June 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

hahaha, the patriots are doing a hernandez jersey amnesty. bring your hernandez jersey in on july 6 or 7 and swap it for a player who is less likely to be a murderer. that is classic. really though, you gotta keep it. this would almost be on a par with when i returned my nirvana tour ticket for a refund :/

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 28 June 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link

I'm not gonna lie, when this all broke I was this close to buying Hernandez jerseys to sell on eBay

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link

patriots aren't even bothering to do the whole 'he'll have his day in court' façade are they

Neanderthal, Friday, 28 June 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link

i am hugely averse to anything that perpetuates the assumed guilt/trial by media bullshit so it sucks how this went down, but it was totally in character for the organization and you don't know what else they knew about him. maybe the matt light thing points to something substantive, maybe it's a 30-something white midwesterner talking about a young hispanic dude. there is no great sense of shock emanating from the environs of gillette stadium tho. i've yet to hear anyone say "he was the last person you would expect to do something like this".

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 28 June 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

probably stems from when light asked aaron how his offseason went and he showed him execution-style murder pics.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 June 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

lol

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 28 June 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link

light didn't embrace what he saw nor did he, for the record, snitch on him

am0n, Friday, 28 June 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link

there must've been some major locker room issues or some kind of disconnect from his teammates that belichick kept in house, idk.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 28 June 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link

Hernandez was the only guy in the locker room who wouldn't participate in Belichick's pre-game puppy-eating ritual

big black nemesis, Puya chilensis (DJP), Friday, 28 June 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link

jaja wena!

collardio gelatinous, Saturday, 29 June 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link

i feel like at this point it's clear that dude got away with so many murders/attempted murders that he thought nothing of leaving an almost unprecedented amount of circumstantial evidence

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 3 July 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link

Hernandez is acclimating well to jail and was moved Monday from the medical unit, where he's been closely watched since arriving, to a different unit.

eh?

how's life, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link

in audio interview, they made it clear that the medical unit is private. SOP was probably to make sure he wasn't a suicide risk and do a psych eval and also to keep him out of gen pop until they were able to acclimate prison staff to understand how to deal with having a celebrity inmate. Don't think he has any medical issues.

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

/not a prison nerd but i have family who work in psych units and AH fits the profile

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link

I just assumed you've done hard time

Moodles, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link

comedy mod-edit record finally caught up to him

Neanderthal, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link

my jailhouse name was 4KLIFT

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

it was a sad time

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link

trail of dead zings in unmarked graves

Moodles, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link

i feel like at this point it's clear that dude got away with so many murders/attempted murders that he thought nothing of leaving an almost unprecedented amount of circumstantial evidence

― J0rdan S., Wednesday, July 3, 2013 2:42 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

just kill a guy then drive away nbd i do it all the time

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link

A lot of dark secrets getting revealed ITT

Moodles, Thursday, 4 July 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link

wait so TIM TEBOW broke up a fight that Hernandez was in at a bar in 07?

wondering how he's still alive

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link

Rose from the dead three days later, duh

i didn't even give much of a fuck that you were mod (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link

he had to go into hiding during the 2012 season, though

christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link

Hernandez shot him in the face but he was ok

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 July 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link

stop snitchin, Tebow

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--vigilante-takes-to-ebay-to-thwart-auctioning-of-aaron-hernandez-s-jersey-003126864.html

idgi, was this dude creating sock accounts to drive the price up? cos if not, every auction gives the seller the option to sell to the second (or third, or fourth, all the way down the line) highest bidder...so um, not a very effective bit of trolling. And no matter what you set your max bid at, eBay only sets your current bid at the max required to win (unlike the old old days where it was actually possible to bid against yourself).

Neanderthal, Thursday, 4 July 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link

[sic]

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link

okay am i insane or is the implication that hernandez was having an affair with this guy
or is that all DRUG LINGO

how bad could it be to be stuck to the couch, forever... (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 10 July 2013 05:45 (ten years ago) link

hit you [up]

k3vin k., Wednesday, 10 July 2013 06:39 (ten years ago) link

lol forks

how's life, Wednesday, 10 July 2013 09:31 (ten years ago) link

he was apparently told in the form of a limerick

Neanderthal, Thursday, 11 July 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link

Gronkowski, who did not have a cast on his surgically repaired arm, said he was in "great spirits" Thursday while promoting his book "Growing up Gronk," but he had less to say when NFL.com's Albert Breer asked him about the league's crime problems.

"Ask Roger Goodell," Gronkowski said.

As for Dennard and Hernandez, Gronkowski said, "I don't have any comment on that."

Former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez is now the subject of a grand jury looking into the shooting death of two men in July 2012, reports the Boston Globe.

Hernandez is already behind bars and pleaded not guilty to the execution-style murder of 27-year old Odin Lloyd and is being held without bail at Bristol County House of Correction in Massachusetts. He is due in Attleboro District Court on Wednesday for a probable cause hearing.

The investigation of the killing of two Cape Verdean immigrants is now in the grand jury’s hands and it seems to be focused on Hernandez, the Globe reported. Investigators believe Hernandez drove Lloyd to an industrial park, then shot him because he was worried Lloyd had information about the South End double homicide and might talk.

Safiro Furtado and Daniel Abreu were shot early on July 16, 2012, in the South End when someone in a sport utility vehicle with Rhode Island license plates pulled up next to their car and began firing.

“The case against Hernandez appears to be strengthening,” one of the officials said. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to discuss the case.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 24 July 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link

this ain't ethnic but I'm still gonna tell it

What's red and bubbly and scratches at the window?

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:44 (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

A baby in the microwave

― AaronHz (AaronHz), Friday, 8 October 2004 05:44 (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 26 July 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link

not gonna lie, I had a flashback to that AaronHz as well

My Buddy® of sexting (DJP), Friday, 26 July 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link

FOXBOROUGH, Mass -- Forensic officers were today seen removing a series of kitchen appliances from the home of the disgraced tight end [....]

Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Friday, 26 July 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link

positive notes coming out of the joint practices. reiss &co seem cautiously excited about some of the young WRs. amendola mostly looking the part. brady killing it. LB group strong and deep. sounds like it will be the secondary that kills the team again, tho on a brighter note, pat chung looks even worse as an eagle apparently.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link

is a terrible secondary like a patriots tradition now

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link

asante samuel was the patritos' bambino

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 7 August 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9568132/tom-brady-new-england-patriots-leaves-practice-vs-tampa-bay-buccaneers

you guys, "Tim Tebow, Patriots starting QB" is on the verge of happening

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

oh I see you've already mentioned this in the offseason thread

OH MY GOD HE'S OOGLY (DJP), Wednesday, 14 August 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link

Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss 21m
Not sure if my ears are deceiving me, but thought I just heard a "Tebow, Tebow, Tebow" chant here at Ford Field.

Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss 9m
Section of crowd chants, "We want Tebow!" Now boos when Ryan Mallett comes back into the game.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 23 August 2013 02:39 (ten years ago) link

like detroit lions fans have the right to troll anybody

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 August 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link

seriously who the fuck actually smokes angel dust

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

[Rolling Stone] also asserts that Patriots coach Bill Belichick had become so infuriated with Hernandez missing practices and demonstrating other thuggish behavior that he “was one misstep from being cut.”

that's one hell of a "misstep", murdering someone for talking about how you murdered someone else

(what was the purpose of that stupid costume) (DJP), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link

he made the last one count i guess

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link

insane

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link

my friend said that the only bit of advice her former 60s rogue chemist / acid casualty absentee father ever gave her was 'don't do dust'

Semih Semih yam Semih yay Semih Şentürk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link

this anecdote was from 2005 or so lest someone notices parallels with tv shows

Semih Semih yam Semih yay Semih Şentürk (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link

Ras-I Dowling released. i think we are ok to conclude now that that draft pick was as terrible as everyone said it was at the time

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

As Ross Tucker mentioned today, the Patriots have a horrible record when it comes to drafting CBs and WRs.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link

i think bill just drafts cbs who can tackle and wrs who can run block

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link

r.i.p. big ras

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link

nothing confirmed but i heard a rumour he dislocated his shoulder cleaning out his locker

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 August 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link

what the hell is this sentence in the RS hernandez article

But Beli-chick, the winner of three Super Bowl titles and grand wizard of the greatest show on turf, had decided long before he got to New England that such niceties were beneath him.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/feature/the-gangster-in-the-huddle#ixzz2dN0Abbfd
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link

all the way thru the article i was thinking wow, this is chock full of bullshit. then i saw yday ppl were saying this was the kind of low-grade fare typical of the borges guy, who i guess is on the globe but i have never even heard of him

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link

yeah 'he'd drive away from the games smoking 3 or 4 blunts', ok uh

johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link

Also, Mike Martz would probably be surprised to learn that Belichick was secretly coaching the Rams way back when.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link

oh fuck they got ron borges to write it??

call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link

ron borges got run out of the boston globe for plagiarism and is well-known for having a grudge against belichick that defies all logic and reason. even by sportwriter standards he's an incredibly shitty person.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link

good to know. i am glad to have avoided him thus far

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

yeah 'he'd drive away from the games smoking 3 or 4 blunts', ok uh

― johnny crunch, Thursday, August 29, 2013 10:59 AM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hold on i believe this!

J0rdan S., Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link

rs--you'll appreciate that the rumored origin of borges's insanity is that when he was a beat writer in the late 90s/early 00s his big source in the pats locker room was drew bledsoe. when drew got benched he never got over it.

this is much more irresponsible of rolling stone than the glammy marathon bomber cover.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

lol that is great

beat hack's bledsoe gravy train derailed by surly browns flop: full story page 17

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

xxp i dont nec disbelieve it, it's just a weird picture to paint, obv not for road games...idk, i feel like maybe that happened once or something

johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

our tight end is crazy
he always smokes dust
commutes away to his killing sprees
with 3 or 4 blunts

you mean "jive turkey," it was putdown in the 70s (Hunt3r), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link

always smoking so many angel dust cigarettes

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link

fwiw i think borges was more a glorified researcher for the piece its credited as BY PAUL SOLOTAROFF WITH RON BORGES

lag∞n, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link

solotaroff came out 2day in some radio interview saying he thinks hernandez will be back on an nfl team in ~4 yrs

johnny crunch, Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link

that's cool that you can be on an NFL team while in jail

(what was the purpose of that stupid costume) (DJP), Thursday, 29 August 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link

looks like tebow might have done just enough to leapfrog brady on the depth chart tonight

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 30 August 2013 03:30 (ten years ago) link

2 tds, 1 int, 4 sacks - with tebow you always know what you're getting.

call all destroyer, Friday, 30 August 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link

That RS article is fantastic / awful, and this piece goes a way in explaining which parts were which: http://www.bostonsportsmedia.com/2013/08/plagiarist-ruins-perfectly-good-rolling-stone-feature

And is "Beli-chick" a typo or just weird toothless dig that Borges employs when he's talking about Belichick?

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Friday, 30 August 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link

Bill Jellyprick has lost his edge.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 30 August 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link

Fells and Ballard released. so week 1 TE group looks to be Sudfeld and Hoomanawanui. here's hoping Sudfeld is actually as good as he has looked at times.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 30 August 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link

i assume gronk is coming back soon then?

i knew ballard was gone when he wasn't finishing his routes late in the game last night.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link

yeah i heard about that. i also wondered if this was an indication that they'll keep gronk off the reg season PUP

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 31 August 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

trying to go 6 weeks with 2 tight ends would be insane even by patriots standards. tho i guess there's a rumbling that they might re-sign fells after week 1 for less money.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 August 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link

that's interesting. also i guess develin the full back played some practice snaps at TE

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 31 August 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link

mesko cut to save a million bucks, pats are now like $13 million under the cap

call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

tebooooooooooow

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link

i have come to wonder if perhaps the primary reason the patriots signed tebow in the first place was not as a player but as a sober buddy, life coach and lifeline for aaron hernandez, who by most accounts they knew was spiraling out of control. it would make a lot of sense. and if that's the case, the murder -- just one week after they signed tebow -- literally left tebow with no role on the team, which would have made the next couple of months mighty awkward, which they may well in fact have been. in that last preseason game, he looked thoroughly unprepared to be the patriots' second- or third-string quarterback, or anyone's second- or third-string quarterback.

and yet i find all the talk about how his nfl career is clearly over to be way premature. he's a competitor, he's got incredible desire, character of course, and some very obvious football skills unrelated to throwing a ball to a human target. he ain't done.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link

in the nfl? i have to assume he's done as a quarterback.

YOU FOOLS PAY OVER $2.50 for a comic book (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link

and speaking of that last preseason game, tom brady appeared to spend the entirety of it gabbing with julian edelman on the sidelines. there's your third-string qb right there if you really need one.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link

(xp) i ain't no coach but the dude is smart and inspirational and can run the football and could probably be a perfectly good clipboard-holding backup qb for some second division nfl team somewhere. right? right???

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link

fcc it's pretty well-documented that they tried using tebow to get through to hernandez at florida and it didn't accomplish anything

call all destroyer, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

i like the theory but i'm pretty sure it was just belichick seeing if he could work his magic

J0rdan S., Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

also it's known that belichick has a persistent boner for urban meyer players so he was probably unable to stem his curiosity

J0rdan S., Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

whatever qualities tebow has they are not sufficient for him to contribute in the nfl. there is no role for him except maybe goal line qb for a team that has a shitty qb anyway, or he would be great catching screen passes i bet. so basically the jets was the perfect spot for him and it still didn't work out. go gentle into that good night, timmy.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

(xxxp) true but i'm not sure that would stop the patriots from trying. especially after (a) they spent $40 million on the guy and (b) he came to them crying for help (if you can believe the rolling stone story).

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link

Tebow is gonna crush it on the Rough Riders or the Argonauts or something

polyphonic, Saturday, 31 August 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link

Actually he would be an interesting arena league guy

polyphonic, Saturday, 31 August 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link

i realized today that even if tebow announced his retirement we'd have to deal with "[team x's] qb hurt WILL THEY CALL TEBOW" stories for at least five years

J0rdan S., Sunday, 1 September 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link

oh we're nowhere near out of the woods

call all destroyer, Sunday, 1 September 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link

the real question: what does joe namath think about tebow

mookieproof, Sunday, 1 September 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link

he wants to kiss him

Panaïs Pnin (The Yellow Kid), Sunday, 1 September 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link

lol

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 September 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link

leon washington release expected but marquice cole? he seemed like at least useful, flexible secondary depth, which was already kinda thin.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 September 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link

cole back. $ i guess

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 September 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BTfmSafCcAAfF-I.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 September 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWKEeWi2tEM

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 September 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link

o lol, i thought i was on the week 1 thread and we were talking about the denver touchback

One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 September 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link

well you were half right

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 September 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link

vereen breaks out...for a few weeks with a wrist injury

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 September 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link

just went to espn to see what all info they published about this and got momentarily distracted by giant ads in the boston section for the DUNKIN DONUTS GRONK CHOMP CHALLENGE. perfect

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 9 September 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

lol boston

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 September 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

GRONK CHOMP

One burly voice screamed and that was one of many. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 September 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link

lol boston

― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, September 9, 2013 4:32 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lag∞n, Monday, 9 September 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link

http://www.gronkchomp.com/desktop/_img/header.gif

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 00:47 (ten years ago) link

i only live here but, damn it, i'm still proud

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link

omg that's almost as good as Stuffy/Eli

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/HP2G7ao.jpg

even tho power rankings are the worst shit in sports journalism, this lil tool espn has is pretty cool. this is the afc east alpha by nickname. i totally don't remember miami being a top 5 power 2002/3. i guess that was ricky and a defense.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link

the great 2011 bills. oh the naivety.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link

rip vincent lamar, you irreplaceable you ;_;

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 September 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link

dammit.

he had been unusually quiet to start this season but not someone i want to go to the playoffs without.

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 September 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link

lol @ "LeGarrette Blount's 49-yard touchdown run was the team's longest since LaMont Jordan's 49-yard TD run against the Oakland Raiders on Dec. 14, 2008."

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link

now that is a guy i had completely forgotten about

call all destroyer, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link

right?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 September 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link

i still dont remember him

ภค๓ครՇє (lag∞n), Monday, 30 September 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link

he joined the pats for just a year after some success in the mid-90s with 'this is how we do it'

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

https://twitter.com/mrs75/status/385082780365094913

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link

he looks fine. might miss the trip to cincinnati but should be good to go next week.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link

So was it an achilles or not?

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

yep it was surgery on a torn achilles

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link

bummer central

lag∞n, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link

trying to stay #bostonstrong

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link

I <3 Wilfork. He should do tv while he's out of commission.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link

he and freeney should have a tv show whey they roadtrip across america in wheelchairs

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link

They should have a prank show, except their target every week for every prank is Albert Haynesworth.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link

haha would watch. i close my eyes and i'm already watching.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link

might miss the trip to cincinnati but should be good to go next week.

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:07 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

hold on he's gonna be back from a torn achilles in 2 weeks?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link

sad lols

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link

That was wishful thinking I suspect.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link

he's out for the season

Moodles, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link

vince officially on IR, and pre-season all-star zach sudfeld released, hopefully makig it to practice squad

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link

Despite all the injuries and rookie free agents and murders etc, this team is going to go at worst 12-4. It's amazing. Not criticizing, giving mad props. This is a hell of a franchise. They piss me off but I'm in awe

One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Saturday, 5 October 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link

is it too soon to say the exciting 1st round 1-2 of jones and hightower is not really delivering?

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 6 October 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link

after reading reiss's first half review i feel better about jones, i know a lot of good work happens invisibly in the trenches but i just didn't see him once. hightower on the other hand is supposed to be one of those all-round versatile guys, but i think he's just not actually very good at anything, which is close but not quite the same thing. i see him involved in breakdowns a lot; his movement looks poor.

i was kind of alarmed to see solder look like he blew two big sack plays but reiss pegged them as bad playcalls (mcdaniels!) that weren't correctly adjusted at the line (brady!). it just goes to reinforce that you don't really have a clue watching from armchair, and i for one don't really know what i am talking about, which i came to terms with a long time ago.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 October 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

hightower is too gdamn slow to play outside lb

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 October 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link

does he play at the same time as spikes? that seems like something out of the 1981 nfl

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 October 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link

yup, pretty much. hightower plays most downs, spikes only plays running downs i think.

call all destroyer, Monday, 7 October 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link

yeah mostly it's one or the other, altho with wilfork out i think they might show up together more. hightower his pursuit to the ball in a straight line is okay but if he has to change direction he moves like a garbage truck. and his coverage seems to be okay too if he's on the spot but quicker TEs and better route running RBs will lose him too easily.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 October 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link

to be fair i feel like mostly no LBs in the nfl can cover tight ends right now

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 October 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link

the dolphins signed two new linebackers basically explicitly to do this and have already resorted to corners, safeties and a back up lb (jelani jenkins) who is long and lean like a tight end

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 October 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link

i wonder if the cowboys would be interested in flipping sean lee for a late round pick...

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 October 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link

actually, in the realm of trades that are a little less pure fantasy, jason lacanfora had an article today about how the giants should have a firesale and rebuild which generally made sense. hackeem nicks is a guy with zero interest in playing for the giants and i would loooove to see him play for NE, i would go up to a 2nd for him although you shouldn't have to on this year's performance.

obviously a DT would be more help right now.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 October 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link

as someone who has watched too many giants games this year (nyc!!) i would not advocate trading for anything above a fourth for hakeem nicks

maybe he really just is disinterested but he also looks like bigger/slower than half the tight ends in the league

J0rdan S., Monday, 7 October 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link

i honestly think he just doesn't care this season, i can't believe he has just fallen off. he is big but he does have pretty good speed, he has made some crazy plays on the outside in the past. i bet he can run block too, BB #1 wr criterion.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 October 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link

Kanorris Davis & Ja'Gared Davis released, both likely to return to middle earth

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 7 October 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link

mayo now out for season most likely, what the fuck did this team do to deserve these injuries

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link

dont answer that

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link

lol (but not at injuries)

oh shit you psyched yourself into liking mbv (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 04:03 (ten years ago) link

looks healthy

Moodles, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link

I mean, yeah, he's murdered a few people, but dang that bench is starting to look pretty thin.

Moodles, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link

cant they bail him out or something

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link

is he making fun of that guys stache

nasa whistleblower (am0n), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

judge hes learned his lesson, hes better at catching touchdowns than murdering people *sanchez grins sheepishly*

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link

he could wear one of those house arrest bracelets on the field

Moodles, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link


Amendola, Danny WR Concussion/Groin DNP - - -
Arrington, Kyle CB Groin FP - - -
Bolden, Brandon RB Knee LP - - -
Connolly, Dan OL Concussion DNP - - -
Edelman, Julian WR Thigh LP - - -
Gronkowski, Rob TE Back/Forearm LP - - -
Hoomanawanui, Michael TE Knee LP - - -
Kelly, Tommy DL Knee DNP - - -
McCourty, Devin DB Shoulder LP - - -
Ninkovich, Rob DL Groin FP - - -
Slater, Matthew WR Wrist LP - - -
Talib, Aqib CB Hip DNP - - -
Washington, Leon RB Ankle DNP - - -
Wilson, Tavon DB Hamstring LP - - -

mayo confirmed on IR

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link

jeez

Moodles, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link

this probably isn't that crazy honestly, it's the nfl

i mean off the top of my head, the falcons are missing their two pro bowl WRs, their starting RB and a backup RB, starting LT, starting DE, starting OLB

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link

they shd stop running into each other at top speed

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link

two weeks ago welker got pulverized on td catch and popped up unscathed, local guy commented "can you imagine if that was amendola?! you'd need a stretcher, a gurney, and a stretcher on top of a gurney." :(

oh shit you psyched yourself into liking mbv (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

true

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

gronk in

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link

i won't believe it until sunday afternoon

call all destroyer, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link

i believe. i hope he can help out on run defense, or maybe play corner.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 October 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

I have no doubt he'll play a couple quarters before leaving in a body cast

Moodles, Friday, 18 October 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link

gronk-out-ski

am0n, Friday, 18 October 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

gronkouchski
About 55 results (0.33 seconds)

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 18 October 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

mayo now out for season most likely, what the fuck did this team do to deserve these injuries

― call all destroyer, Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:32 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Mayo ended his season on a cheap shot on Sproles that didn't even raise a ref's eyebrow, just a drive or so after Malcolm Jenkins got flagged (and now fined) for incidental helmet contact. I really do feel for Pats fans re: the ridiculous injury pileup that your '13 season has become (as much as I can feel bad for a team that's still kicking ass), but afaic mayo's injury is just desserts.

Fetchboy, Saturday, 19 October 2013 10:40 (ten years ago) link

sopoaga comes in for beans at DT. don't know that he is going to be anything but a large dude but that is certainly one thing currently absent. bigger news is that vollmer confirmed to IR. o-line depth is stretched to breaking now.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BXx2umbCMAARwFq.jpg

polyphonic, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link

looks like he found a replacement for the hoodie, can't wait to see this out on the field

Moodles, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link

loathe to link to reddit but julian edelman did an ama and he is an entertaining guy

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link

belichick is the weirdest dude

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 November 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link

was thinking how funny it is that danny woodhead is the best player on the chargers offense outside of rivers. if edelman had been snapped up over the summer he would prob be in the same position somewhere (actually for much of the season so far he kind of has been that guy). patriots seem to have excelled in digging up or making these tricky, unflashy but productive utility players since faulk. vereen is just a premium version of this kind of player, i can't wait for him to stay fit for 2 games in a row.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 November 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/5Xj93O3.jpg

newbury comics on newbury having trouble shifting its nfl dvds for some reason

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link

surely there's a bonfire these could go in?

Moodles, Thursday, 7 November 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BZnrts8CYAAzJuh.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 21 November 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link

http://instagram.com/p/hCmhNLv8Ug/

never forget

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 23 November 2013 03:41 (ten years ago) link

classy!

a day that changed our nation forever

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/sanchez21.gif

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2013 04:54 (ten years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butt_fumble

sleepingbag, Saturday, 23 November 2013 04:55 (ten years ago) link

hahahah

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 November 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link

When Sanchez watched the replay with some of his teammates, they were generally supportive. "Hopefully we'll laugh about it later," he said.[32] Moore remarked of the play's popularity, "The littlest things nowadays turn into Internet sensations. It's not surprising." When asked if he found the play amusing, Moore answered, "No."[14]

christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 23 November 2013 05:17 (ten years ago) link

It's got to be rough being a Jets fan when the best thing you can point to about your club is a championship before you were born and stuff like the Buttfumble.

I guess there was the NY Sack Exchange, but then again for some fans - it's that before you were born.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kwij124wNo1qzbwkjo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAI6WLSGT7Y3ET7ADQ&Expires=1385303658&Signature=swKChnCfhJVfFNfT1b%2BnhsDK8GA%3D#_=_

earlnash, Saturday, 23 November 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link

my new favorite wikipedia article.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 November 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link

i was reading that wikipedia article earlier today and just about cried laughing, that is amazing

The game and the so-called "butt fumble" in particular are remembered as the low point of the Jets' 2012 season.

When the fumble occurred, Moore was not aware that his buttocks had caused it; he learned of his role only after the game.

Patriots head coach Bill Belichick said of Gregory's recovery of the fumble, "it was just a good scoop-and-score play."

On the ensuing kickoff, Jets return specialist Joe McKnight fumbled; the Patriots' Julian Edelman recovered the fumble in mid-air, and returned it 22 yards for yet another touchdown.

By the two-minute warning before half time, the score was 35–0, and the stadium loudspeakers played "It Ain't Over 'til It's Over". Fireman Ed left the game before halftime, and he would retire his role as the team's unofficial mascot following the game.

Including the butt fumble, Sanchez lost the ball 24 times in the 2011 and 2012 seasons.

Every Friday, SportsCenter has a "Not Top-10" blooper reel segment, culminating in the "Worst of the Worst" play, which is voted on by fans online. The butt fumble won Worst of the Worst for 40 straight weeks, usually by a landslide.

On September 6, 2013, ESPN retired the butt fumble from "Worst of the Worst" after going undefeated for 40 weeks.

On September 29, 2013, the "butt fumble" label was again applied to a buttock-related fumble by a Jets quarterback.

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Sunday, 24 November 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link

lmao @ "scoop and score"

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 24 November 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link

he butt fumble won Worst of the Worst for 40 straight weeks, usually by a landslide.

On September 6, 2013, ESPN retired the butt fumble from "Worst of the Worst" after going undefeated for 40 weeks.

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 November 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link

oh man

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 29 November 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

getting on each others level

lag∞n, Friday, 29 November 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link

http://maxgif.com/Cgz

lag∞n, Friday, 29 November 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link

road win w00t

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 1 December 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

in which bob and jonathan kraft smack a reporter on the ass: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/giddy-krafts-smack-reporter-butt-patriots-comeback-victory-001100731--nfl.html

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link

its bothers me how kraft is always all dressed up for work, this is football damn try to enjoy yrself at least throw on a sweater or something

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link

http://img.gifts.com/product/m/UKCWJGV68FKVKXBEHA35_250.jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link

yes you are witnessing the genesis of me buying a vintage style patriots sweater in case anyone had any doubt

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link

damn these shits are wild expensive idk

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/2m8B5xH.jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link

think id rather a blue one

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/hP1W0qo.jpg

wtf at this one looks like it shd say lions on it

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link

http://cdn-s3-3.wanelo.com/product/image/3964138/original.jpg

feelin it

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

does it come with the girl tho haha right fellas

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

srsly tho i would marry her

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link

i'm pretty sure my friend owns the white one, like from when it originally came out

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link

that one is p tite

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link

this bears unit is kinda the king of all these http://images.cdn.bigcartel.com/bigcartel/product_images/59819999/max_h-1000+max_w-1000/DSC_1043.JPG

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

did not embed image out of respect for the 86 pats

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link

this is another p cool pats sweater

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link

ok i bid on a red vers of that white on on ebay no one outbid me plz but im sure i will be outbid anyway since theres six days left and its listed at 1/3 the price they usually go for eh i dont really like the red one anyway rip cyber monday

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link

liveblog monologue sweater purchase

peak ilx

oh is forks back

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link

you gonna buy me a sweater

no

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link

i am disappointed that our pats thread for everyone to talk about patritos shit because nobody else cares isn't delivering the goods for its intended audience, forksclovetofu. we need to get our patritos shit together for 2014. planning meeting?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 December 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link

i can save you the meeting: have legume buy me a sweater

forks sweater

http://cf.ltkcdn.net/mens-fashion/images/std/46258-300x400-Turtleneck_sweater.jpg

lag∞n, Monday, 2 December 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link

i'm going to put this in the 'would like' and 'not urgent' quadrant

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 December 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link

xp edelman lost a lot of weight

oh man i used to have a cashmere sweater like that brady sweater.
it was from steven alan. i sold it though. wish i hadn't! what was i thinking

time to search for vintage pats gear and another one of those sweaters

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 3 December 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link

steven alan is so baller

lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 December 2013 02:14 (ten years ago) link

i lost the auction for the sweater

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 December 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link

how much did it go for

call all destroyer, Sunday, 8 December 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link

think its ongoing just i got outbid and was not prepared to reup

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 December 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

ends in a few hours its at $41 now, bidding started at 40 lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 December 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link

i really dont want to pay even 40 for that thing tbh (+s&h)

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 December 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

if it was blue maybe

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 December 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181273622612

lag∞n, Sunday, 8 December 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link

since the result yesterday i have seen talk in the media of 1. pats getting #1 seed, 2. bill b being coty, and 3. tom b being mvp (!). i mean, is there any way that miami doesn't win on sunday now?

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link

haha

lag∞n, Friday, 13 December 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link

if the patriots play four full quarters of football, they'll have a pretty good chance against miami. inasmuch as they played basically two quarters against houston and one quarter plus against cleveland, i'm not counting on it. i haven't seen anything on the field in the last few games that suggests bb should even be under consideration for coty. if there's a "coach of the 4th quarter" award, maybe that.

i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Friday, 13 December 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link

and of course he should get the "press conference coach of the year" award every year. that award should be named after him.

i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Friday, 13 December 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link

i mean, is there any way that miami doesn't win on sunday now?

welp :/

am0n, Sunday, 15 December 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

does anyone remember in 2011 when julian edelman was playing defensive back and he hit ladainian tomlinson hard enough that the trainers had to come out?

http://i42.tinypic.com/35avh5l.jpg

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 02:10 (ten years ago) link

oh now i remember

also a pretty good hit on vince young that year (had to google to figure out which qb it was)

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 02:53 (ten years ago) link

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/804978/edel_medium.gif

these gifs are making me indescribably happy

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 02:55 (ten years ago) link

that's not it tho, this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdIG2IvNI2Q

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 02:58 (ten years ago) link

oh nice!! that one is awesome.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 03:00 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/9IRoD.gif

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 7 January 2014 03:02 (ten years ago) link

aw, rip big guy

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 7 January 2014 03:03 (ten years ago) link

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/warrant-links-aaron-hernandez-boston-shooting-153936759--spt.html

The search warrant filed by Bristol police provides some of the first details of Hernandez's alleged link to the Boston shooting.

Surveillance camera recordings showed Hernandez and Bradley going into the Boston nightclub Cure at about 12:30 a.m. on July 16, 2012, shortly after the shooting victims went into the club, according to the warrant.

Hernandez's movements inside the club weren't recorded, but police said Hernandez quickly downed two drinks and that he and Bradley left after about 10 minutes. Surveillance video then showed Hernandez driving a Toyota 4Runner SUV out of a nearby parking garage with Bradley as a passenger, police said.

The footage shows the victims leaving the club at about 2:10 a.m., and Hernandez's SUV passing by them twice as they walked to a parking garage to get their car, the warrant says. The shooting wasn't recorded by any cameras.

A third man who was shot in the car but survived, Aquilino Freire, told police an SUV pulled up next to them while they were stopped at a traffic light, and he saw someone in the SUV's back seat laughing, the warrant says. Then, several gunshots were fired from the rear passenger seat into the car, Freire told police. Two other people in the car ran away, Freire said.

A witness in another car told investigators that he saw an SUV with Rhode Island license plates run a red light, stop next to the victims' car and he heard six gunshots. He described the SUV driver as a light-skinned Hispanic man with short dark hair.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Wednesday, 8 January 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link

Bill Belichick Smiled Seven Times This Season

mookieproof, Friday, 10 January 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 10 January 2014 17:17 (ten years ago) link

if they studed on-field facial expressions, they'd have found two or three more smiles within the 50 or so hours of game time this season. at least!

fact checking cuz, Friday, 10 January 2014 18:16 (ten years ago) link

you usually see a quick on-field smile after a good win. i think there were probably 2, maybe 3 this year.

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 January 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 10 January 2014 18:33 (ten years ago) link

i remember that! bill loves halloween.

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 January 2014 18:34 (ten years ago) link

yeah look at that big ol grin

christmas candy bar (al leong), Friday, 10 January 2014 18:35 (ten years ago) link

you can see him remembering

lag∞n, Friday, 10 January 2014 18:36 (ten years ago) link

ok, he looks a little too happy there

Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Friday, 10 January 2014 18:37 (ten years ago) link

so...if you choose to believe the reports, spikes was put on IR because he was late for practice

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 11 January 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link

Seems extreme for the postseason when they already have some serious gaps in their lineup.

Ornate Coleman (Moodles), Saturday, 11 January 2014 21:56 (ten years ago) link

yup, especially run defense

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 11 January 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link

i don't think they IR'd him for being late to practice once. sounds like an ongoing issue. and that's how bb has run the team from the day he took over, and i don't think he's ever cared if it's preseason, season, postseason or offseason. he's pretty much repared to bench or release anyone (except for brady) for anything at anytime.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 11 January 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link

repared = prepared

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 11 January 2014 22:04 (ten years ago) link

that's so insane, where was this info?

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 11 January 2014 22:11 (ten years ago) link

8 conference championship games in 13 years is insane

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 12 January 2014 04:26 (ten years ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Sunday, 12 January 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/dante-scarnecchia-the-patriots-forgotten-man/

deserved shoutout to dante scarnecchia, great coach + human being

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 January 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link

and now retired...

scar and pepper gone, that's like the soul of the coaching staff departed

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 22 January 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link

maybe this got a lot of traction on weei or something but i never heard it once on national media -- if the refs don't pick up the MNF PI flag in carolina (note: the pats still have to score the next play but still), pats are teh #1 seed, could plausibly lose in div rd to san diego, but prob are hosting the conf final vs den instead of going to mile high

idk i just wanted to write that to remember it, i think its accurate. i did think @ the time it wouldve been an ok no-call PI, but considering the flag was already thrown, you can't pick it up and then race off the field, thats p bogus

johnny crunch, Friday, 24 January 2014 14:21 (ten years ago) link

yeah the pick up was the objectionable part.

i wish they had shown up more but otherwise no sane NE fan can complain about them not making the super bowl this year. it is basically the only playoff loss i am okay with since bill & tom's excellent adventure began. equanimity feels p good.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 January 2014 14:29 (ten years ago) link

yeah i mean that was all via my irl pats fan friend & is his only gripe, hes otherwise p rational & ok w/ how things really went down

johnny crunch, Friday, 24 January 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link

yeah i was (and am) super pissed about the picked up flag but in terms of full-season karma if you take away the wacky comeback against cleveland or the game-ending catch against the saints the pats are a 3 seed and don't get the bye and who even knows what happens. so idk it all evens out.

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 January 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link

also in that same game two plays earlier amendola had a p easy td but caught it weird with his fingertips then dropped it, that one kinda slays me more than the flag even, but w/e the pats were not really that good this year and got totally owned by the broncos #namaste

puple prijan (lag∞n), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:12 (ten years ago) link

"caught it weird then dropped it: the danny amendola story"

call all destroyer, Friday, 24 January 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link

lol

puple prijan (lag∞n), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link

besides now w all this richard sherman racial animus im amped to ride for the seahawks

puple prijan (lag∞n), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link

already got in a facebook fight w my cousin and everything

puple prijan (lag∞n), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:16 (ten years ago) link

i looked at the seahawks opponents and get this: not only are they the DENVER BRONCOS they have PEYTON MANNING at qb, so now like the owners of the 100 seahawks hats i have seen in the past week in boston, i am suddenly the world's biggest seattle fan

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 January 2014 15:48 (ten years ago) link

haha boston is so good at being #petty

puple prijan (lag∞n), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:50 (ten years ago) link

btw i was going to say re amendola that in the one game he was fit he was an absolute beast, and them i remembered that was the game he injured himself in and played the 2nd half hurt. he was fit in zero games this season. but seriously, he made some sick completions across the middle in traffic in that week 1 game.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 January 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link

ya he was def chronically hobbled this year

puple prijan (lag∞n), Friday, 24 January 2014 15:52 (ten years ago) link

woah nick caserio interviewing at miami. that is surprising to say the least.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 24 January 2014 17:27 (ten years ago) link

i kinda forgot amendola even played for the patriots. i think brady kinda forgot too.

as for picked-up penalty flags and other what-ifs, i'm not sure any of it really mattered. they were way too hobbled and thoroughly outplayed last week.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 24 January 2014 18:28 (ten years ago) link

yeah, I couldn't get upset about the loss to Denver because it was such a thorough thrashing. It would've been much more difficult if the game was close in any way, shape, or form.

Spaghetti Sauce Shampoo (Moodles), Friday, 24 January 2014 18:31 (ten years ago) link

this guy can't get a break!!!!!!

HARTFORD, Conn. A man who alleges he was shot in the face by former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez in Florida was shot again, this time outside a Connecticut nightclub, where he then opened fire, police said Monday.

Alexander Bradley was shot multiple times in the right thigh Sunday night outside the Vevo Lounge Bar & Grill in Hartford's South Meadows neighborhood and was taken to a hospital under police guard, police Lt. Brian Foley said. His condition wasn't released, but he's expected to survive.

Police haven't announced any arrests.

"Evidence revealed there was a disturbance in the club that was pushed outside by staff," Foley said. "At this point, Bradley was shot. Bradley went to a vehicle, got a gun, then shot up the front of the club."

No injuries were reported.

Responding police officers stopped a car that sped away from the club, and an injured Bradley got out and fell on the street, Foley said. No charges against Bradley were announced.

Bradley's Connecticut lawyer, Robert Pickering, hung up the phone on a reporter without commenting Monday.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 3 February 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

steve gregory being released. i wonder if they will be bringing him back on the cheap. i kind of like him back there, even tho it seems like he will whiff badly once a game on a tackle or a coverage. but he is pretty replaceable surely, and $2.5m or w/e he is due next year certainly seems too much.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 28 February 2014 19:27 (ten years ago) link

is it really $2.5? yikes.

he must be an incredibly smart player who can stay in position most of the time, because when he's caught out of position he barely looks like a football player.

call all destroyer, Friday, 28 February 2014 19:39 (ten years ago) link

iirc reiss likes him. smart, first step in his head type of player. but there is a guy with a $1m salary ceiling if ever i saw one.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 28 February 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link

reports out that amendola will be traded or cut. i guess they're already paying a lot of money for one pass catcher who's injured half the season, two is decadent. kinda sad that didn't work out. there were flashes of what might have been, if too rarely

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 1 March 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BjfzoMWIMAIrUcW.jpg

31

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 24 March 2014 15:10 (ten years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 March 2014 00:21 (ten years ago) link

wb vince wilfork!

call all destroyer, Thursday, 27 March 2014 22:36 (ten years ago) link

Hope he stays healthy

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Thursday, 27 March 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link

:D

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 27 March 2014 23:41 (ten years ago) link

glad they worked things out with big vince
i think they should've paid him what he was owed on the contract he had, but.. i guess that doesn't happen in the nfl

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Friday, 28 March 2014 02:00 (ten years ago) link

wendell back on pretty team friendly terms for 2 years. not a sniff of interest from other teams interestingly.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 28 March 2014 19:59 (ten years ago) link

why not, i guess

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:44 (ten years ago) link

he has... two legs!

le goon (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 3 April 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link

good number of legs

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 April 2014 19:00 (ten years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkzPz5ZCcAARd5N.png:large

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link

"4 years a slave" is great

le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 19:02 (ten years ago) link

it's something alright

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 19:16 (ten years ago) link

three weeks pass...

love wilfork beyond words https://twitter.com/wilfork75/statuses/462319264989724673

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 2 May 2014 21:33 (ten years ago) link

damn his (wife? daughter?) got some biceps

Wilfork is only 32, jeez.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 2 May 2014 21:58 (ten years ago) link

Lotta style on display there. Now I know what outfit I need.

nitro-burning funny car (Moodles), Saturday, 3 May 2014 00:35 (ten years ago) link

omg that photo is cute as hell

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 3 May 2014 00:47 (ten years ago) link

<3 vince. and wow at bianca, almost didn't recognize her.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 3 May 2014 08:23 (ten years ago) link

<3 big vince and bianca 4eva

love that photo

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Saturday, 3 May 2014 17:56 (ten years ago) link

i totally thought he was cosplaying Tintin, like I could not come up with a reason for why he was looking like that otherwise

i can't wait to see what he dresses like once he's retired

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 May 2014 18:45 (ten years ago) link

patriots beat writer tweeted this from bill's press conf:

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolin 1h
From last night:
Q: Easley’s not giving us any information on the knee injury on his conference call

Belichick: We’ll get the violins out

call all destroyer, Friday, 9 May 2014 21:04 (ten years ago) link

hahahahahaha

le goon (J0rdan S.), Friday, 9 May 2014 21:30 (ten years ago) link

Can't believe they drafted Janeane Garafolo smh

polyphonic, Saturday, 10 May 2014 21:03 (ten years ago) link

she totally fills a need, though. she's projected to take over for belichick at post-game press conferences.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 10 May 2014 22:44 (ten years ago) link

two weeks pass...

ppl who have figured out how to live

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 02:45 (nine years ago) link

vince wilfork is without a doubt one of the greatest humans on planet earth

le goon (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 02:51 (nine years ago) link

he is a great interior lineman, and more importantly he is a great man

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 May 2014 02:54 (nine years ago) link

<3 would eat wilfork ribs

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 May 2014 02:56 (nine years ago) link

just watched that like five times <3

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link

it's semi maddening that there are so many genial, entertaining people on Boston sports teams that I hate to the fiber of my DNA

On-the-spot Dicespin (DJP), Wednesday, 28 May 2014 15:06 (nine years ago) link

@AlbertBreer
Suffolk County DA laying out a case where the double murder started over Aaron Hernandez's drink being spilled.

polyphonic, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 19:05 (nine years ago) link

holy shit

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 28 May 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link

he supposedly tailed the dudes that bumped into him at the club, leaned out the window, said "what up now???!!" followed by a racial epithet, and then shot into the vehicle.

then told his friend "I think I got one in the head and one in the chest".

holy fucks

getting strange ass all around the globe (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 May 2014 01:08 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

A certain Patriot has kept the local gravedigger around Boston pretty busy over the last couple years.

Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Sunday, 22 June 2014 03:55 (nine years ago) link

this seems as good a place as any for:

Bill Barnwell ‏@billbarnwell 1h
You get 10 Globe articles a month. Don’t waste one of them on Shaughnessy.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 22 June 2014 17:02 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

lol bill just spent like 5 minutes explaining the concept of preseason football to some reporter who asked a dumbass question about whether this game mattered more because they were playing against a playoff team.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 August 2014 02:44 (nine years ago) link

first-name basis, eh

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 August 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link

he's been in my life longer than several of my friends

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 August 2014 02:57 (nine years ago) link

aww + gross

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 August 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 23 August 2014 15:21 (nine years ago) link

so garoppopolopolopolo looks great and the team pretty good in general I gather?

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 23 August 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link

yeah i try to pay no attention to preseason but vibes are good.

i did see jimmy g's td throw last night, he made a super subtle adjustment to avoid the rush and stuck the throw to the fb.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 23 August 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link

reading an article on the patriots news blog about perceptions of ridley after mike reiss left him off his latest depth chart guess (altho i think reiss was implying they would look to trade him rather than cut him). article itself not illuminating: notes few long runs, glosses over 4.6 YPC, confirms he fumbles a lot.

then first two comments
#1 bring back bjge
#2 swap ridley for lg blount

...

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link

people love big slow rbs

call all destroyer, Monday, 25 August 2014 18:20 (nine years ago) link

its good because they run downhill which everyone knows is better than other directions

lag∞n, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:06 (nine years ago) link

http://chachic.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/northandsouth.jpg

i'm pretty sure this is a film about what directions you're supposed to run in.

call all destroyer, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:09 (nine years ago) link

http://csbj.com/files/2013/01/smash.jpg

rb hof

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link

nowadays, most football stadia are built on a slant, and you have to have a rb who can take advantage of that for 2 quarters.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link

idk how much ilnfl patritos gang members have been keeping up with the east of the afc east this preseason but i keep seeing report on top of report that ej manual and geno smith and historically, amazingly bad. i have a feeling that it could be a fun season ahead #nohubris

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link

ej manual lol

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

lol at the mistakes in that post. ok, for clarity:

idk how much ilnfl patritos gang members have been keeping up with the rest of the afc east this preseason but i keep seeing report on top of report that ej manuel and geno smith are historically, amazingly bad. i have a feeling that it could be a fun season ahead #nohubris

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:29 (nine years ago) link

currently watching the ny jets edition of hard knocks and things are looking good for at least a superbowl appearance this season, harmony in the camp, momentum very much with them, sanchez ready to step up to that elite tier

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link

the bills are going to be a complete disaster.

i thought geno was supposed to be doing ok? i don't pay much attention to camps so i am probably mistaken.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link

xp that was one of the seasons they reached the afc championship game with sanchez. would definitely be worth a look back. a rare time capsule of the jets not being in total disarray.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:43 (nine years ago) link

on geno i wouldn't rule out my being instinctively selective about the information i retain but as long as someone somewhere is trashing him i will rely on that authority

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:51 (nine years ago) link

How much gas does Mankins have left in the tank? Is he gonna be a difference maker for the Bucs' line?

Fetchboy, Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link

he's got something left, he'll be pretty good. he's just not one of the best three guards in football anymore.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 28 August 2014 02:13 (nine years ago) link

i need to be careful with my thinking here but it seems like they've really found a player in jimmy g

call all destroyer, Friday, 29 August 2014 01:58 (nine years ago) link

need to cash brady in for a 4th round pick and a tight end before he loses his trade value

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 29 August 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link

2007 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 24 Brandon Meriweather DB Miami (Fla.)
4 127 Kareem Brown DT Miami (Fla.)
5 171 Clint Oldenburg T Colorado State
6 180 Justin Rogers LB Southern Methodist
6 202 Mike Richardson DB Notre Dame
6 208 Justise Hairston RB Central Connecticut State
6 209 Corey Hilliard OT Oklahoma State
7 211 Oscar Lua LB USC
7 247 Mike Elgin G Iowa

2006 - NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL
1 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2 36 Chad Jackson WR Florida
3 86 David Thomas TE Texas
4 106 Garrett Mills RB Tulsa
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski K Memphis
5 136 Ryan O'Callaghan T California
6 191 Jeremy Mincey LB Florida
6 205 Dan Stevenson G Notre Dame
6 206 Le Kevin Smith DT Nebraska
7 229 Willie Andrews CB Baylor

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 30 August 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link

1 Brandon Meriweather DB
4 Kareem Brown DT
5 Clint Oldenburg T
6 Justin Rogers LB
6 Mike Richardson DB
6 Justise Hairston RB
6 Corey Hilliard OT
7 Oscar Lua LB
7 Mike Elgin G

1 Laurence Maroney RB
2 Chad Jackson WR
3 David Thomas TE
4 Garrett Mills RB
4 Stephen Gostkowski K
5 Ryan O'Callaghan T
6 Jeremy Mincey LB
6 Dan Stevenson G
6 Le Kevin Smith DT
7 Willie Andrews CB

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 30 August 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link

gostkowski was a good fourth round pick. he had some huge shoes to fill, and he has filled them as well as anyone could have hoped for.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:17 (nine years ago) link

jeremy mincey is still kicking around the league i think.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 30 August 2014 19:03 (nine years ago) link

so after all that Mallett was a bad pick

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 31 August 2014 21:01 (nine years ago) link

tommy hurt his leg. initial panic rumours that it might be somewhat serious.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link

bring in the kid

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

thank god mallett can save them

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:20 (nine years ago) link

Bob Smith · Haverhill High School
Where the he'll is the defense? Yeah a championship defense. .what till nextweekend we will be down 2 games. I love belicheck...maybe he needs to retire..the game is starting to pass him by...offense today unbelievably sucks..maybe Brady is sucking and time to RETIRE. .cause he SUCKS TODAY...

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 September 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link

lol haverhill high school

call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 September 2014 21:35 (nine years ago) link

they were terrible today tho, up the middle pass protection and up the middle run defense cannot be continuing problems.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 September 2014 21:39 (nine years ago) link

last year, iirc, they tended to sleep thru first halves and play like themselves in second halves. looks like they figured out, this year, how to play like themselves in the first half.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 8 September 2014 00:57 (nine years ago) link

I missed this game; I am very, very sad about that

next week: VIKINGS

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Monday, 8 September 2014 01:02 (nine years ago) link

I missed this game

so did the patriots.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 8 September 2014 01:13 (nine years ago) link

lol basically

call all destroyer, Monday, 8 September 2014 01:14 (nine years ago) link

wondering how long it will take brady and mcdaniels to discover that tim wright is on the team. i'm still not sure they're aware that danny amendola is on the team.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 8 September 2014 01:17 (nine years ago) link

no way wright knows the playbook well enough to be a lot of help; a couple of the plays where he got the ball today were pretty clearly feature plays for him

call all destroyer, Monday, 8 September 2014 01:20 (nine years ago) link

the pats will prob be fine imo i think it's possible the dolphins have one of the best d lines in the NFL

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

i do think mcdaniels got way too pass happy though, even with that deficit there's no reason brady should've thrown the ball 60 something times. esp with a hobbled gronk the pats basically only have one good WR (ok this could be a problem) but a few pretty good backs.

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

also mentioned this on the Week 1 thread, but the pats gave up a disgusting amount of penalty yards, many of which came in key situations. there were 2 or 3 drives that got totally deflated by ill-timed penalties.

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link

that one sack where wake beat hooman and ridley, it was like wake was superman and hooman was the revolving door, and ridley was an innocent bystander

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 September 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link

that sack and the one that essentially ended the game after the dolphins TD, it looked like cam had been shot out of a cannon

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:50 (nine years ago) link

the offensive line looked bad but still feel like that's gonna be one of those things that's more a week 1 blip than a crippling deficiency if the starters can stay healthy

le goon (J0rdan S.), Monday, 8 September 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link

the o-line looked really good in the first half is the thing, good protection and grinding that short yardage TD were real nice. NE moved the ball pretty well all half. i am guessing 2nd half was maybe conditions/conditioning and good adjustments by MIA, on top of questionable offensive playcalling. and yeah, the rare times they actually got a first down in the 2nd half it was called back for a pen.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 September 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link

brady also seemed like he had not seen his receivers all summer. i guess with groonk that is understandable. but he read the defense differently on those two big blown plays to gronk down the middle and edelman on the deep corner that he shortened into an out - and both times the receiver seemed to make the right adjustment and brady didn't.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 September 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link

thing is, you watch that game and see a game where the fins got to play the game how they wanted and did it very well and they and the pats combined to make the pats look pretty crappy, and then you watch josh mccown vs derek anderson right after and that is what you might call context

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 September 2014 15:02 (nine years ago) link

the game in miami is always tough, i'm not taking much away from this.

call all destroyer, Monday, 8 September 2014 15:53 (nine years ago) link

rip patriots

lag∞n, Monday, 8 September 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link

can't complain too much today, except:

total points in second half this season: 6 (and all 6 of those points came on short drives set up by defense or special teams).

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 14 September 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link

Second week with tons of penalty yards

odd proggy geezer (Moodles), Sunday, 14 September 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link

it was a ridiculously overcalled game for both teams, i don't really care about it.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 September 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link

FUCK YOU, MATT CASSEL

stacked as fuck & imposing (DJP), Monday, 15 September 2014 15:16 (nine years ago) link

embedded patriot!

call all destroyer, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:17 (nine years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link

sleeper cass-cell

johnny crunch, Monday, 15 September 2014 15:29 (nine years ago) link

i have been following the advanced football analytics site this season as they have been getting some attention, in particular for their EPA measure, which tbh i don't know how convinced by i am.
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2010/08/glossary.html

anyhow, my reason for mentioning it here is that according to EPA the patriots have the 2nd worst offense in football thru 2 games after jaguars. the is the form of the championship years ppl!

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 14:15 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx0WWCTCEAIiyZ9.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 13:18 (nine years ago) link

love this

Tedy: I remember times when we might have had a lethargic practice in a week like this and he'd get on us for a lack of focus. "You think you're just going to roll your helmet out, with the Patriots logo, and those guys will lay down? Who do you think you are? You think you're going to win? Based on what? Based on what!!??" Then he would show lowlights from practice and he'd keep going. "Based on this effort, you think you're going to win? Based on this block, you think you're going to win? Based on this read in pass coverage that we missed, you think we're going to win?" In one respect, you love that about him. But it can beat you up at times too. I think what it comes down to is this: Sometimes the head coach has to make players hate him to get effort and focus out of them, to have them play with an edge. He did that.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link

that resume is whiter than the paper it's printed on

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link

i want to know why he never went home to CA in the summer

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:13 (nine years ago) link

i want to know why he never went home to CA in the summer

iirc, he played quarterback for a school in ann arbor.

Allen (etaeoe), Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:25 (nine years ago) link

i have every confidence that that is answering my question but it's not clear to me how. would be great if you could elaborate.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

i have been following the advanced football analytics site this season as they have been getting some attention, in particular for their EPA measure, which tbh i don't know how convinced by i am.
http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/2010/08/glossary.html

anyhow, my reason for mentioning it here is that according to EPA the patriots have the 2nd worst offense in football thru 2 games after jaguars. the is the form of the championship years ppl!

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 2:15 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

there's some stats on there that are literally the opposite of PFF's ratings so I don't know what to think about either

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 18 September 2014 20:30 (nine years ago) link

Michael Gallagher ‏@MikeSGallagher 41s

Josh McCown with a 1.0 YPA and a pick. Niiice. The ol' 0.0 passer rating

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 19 September 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link

oh wrong thread sorry, I'm so bad tonight fuck me

Matt Armstrong, Friday, 19 September 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link

greg bedard pushing a rumor that mankins refused to renegotiate his contract because he didn't like the new offensive line coach.

lol?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 18:14 (nine years ago) link

looking like they shoulda listened to logan. read somewhere that PFF has solder as a bottom 5 tackle so far this year which means they have one o-lineman who can make a claim to competency right now and he is overdue his seasonal injury.

the greatest trick dante scarnecchia ever played was distracting us while a line of pro bowlers slowly changed into a line of chumps. it is kinda funny that when the line was at its best they had solid>great players everywhere except RT, and now they only have a RT!

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 18:30 (nine years ago) link

thompkins and dobson healthy scratches. never change patriots

devey also inactive

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 September 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link

oh come the f on

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 September 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link

if they're going to fail on offense they need to be failing with those guys, not amendola and lafell

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 September 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link

3 wrs dressed! assuming we will see tim wright and vereen split out. play the whole game in 22

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 September 2014 23:59 (nine years ago) link

the window closed tonight

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link

sure felt that way

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:29 (nine years ago) link

someone got a chuckle out of bill at least

http://vine.co/v/Omzph7rYzpA

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 10:06 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzmswHgCUAEa7N9.jpg

mookieproof, Friday, 10 October 2014 18:11 (nine years ago) link

---Riddell---
{>O< || >O<}

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 October 2014 18:38 (nine years ago) link

pats trading for akeem ayers from tenn. not really a replacement for mayo afaict but could replace collins on the outside as they move him in.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:28 (nine years ago) link

seems to have fallen out of favor but still young, sort of a reclamation project seems like.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:37 (nine years ago) link

6th for a 7th and player. that is basically free.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:41 (nine years ago) link

Pro Football Focus @PFF · 6m 6 minutes ago
Akeem Ayers is a legit talent. Was out #4 ranked OLB last year. Perhaps best in a Von Miller type role. Fit in NE intriguing to watch

snrub goin up on a tuesday (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:47 (nine years ago) link

probably he is the new rosie colvin/adalius thomas but with a more appropriate price tag

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 20:54 (nine years ago) link

6th for a 7th and player. that is basically free.

― Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, October 21, 2014 4:41 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yea this is the same dallas paid for rolando mcclain

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 21 October 2014 21:30 (nine years ago) link

had a dream that they traded a first-round pick for vincent jackson and i was really annoyed about it.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:23 (nine years ago) link

pats/stillers parallel is interesting - both put up 51 last week in outlandish fashion; both are getting v healthy on 3-game-straight stretches playing at home, tho each still has a big test upcoming this week

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link

dream CAD otm

that steelers result was a big shock to me, they have looked so mediocre this season and against pretty weak opposition. the only good team they played before indy was baltimore who whupped them. the colts win is a real scalp tho, and it is a great year to be matched up vs the 2 souths. there's a real chance that san diego and kcc both miss the playoffs because unconvincing pburgh and cincy teams ride in off of that easy schedule.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:57 (nine years ago) link

Edelman nodded. He described Brady as a “football machine,” adding, “He’s in bed by eight thirty every night!”

johnny crunch, Friday, 31 October 2014 22:43 (nine years ago) link

Well, yeah

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 31 October 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link

never been more jealous of a pro athlete

johnny crunch, Friday, 31 October 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link

laughably bad "analytics" site pro football focus apparently graded the patriots offense as an aggregate -7.1 yesterday.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 01:51 (nine years ago) link

i was following the site for the first 3 or 4 weeks of the season and came to the conclusion that there was no obvious correlation between their formulae and reality

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link

never forget

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 14:45 (nine years ago) link

http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-england-patriots/0ap3000000423515/Inside-the-NFL-Brady-fires-the-Patriots-to-victory

it is funny how much of a dork brady is. my favourite part of this was right at the end tho, when belichick comes over and brady's demeanour completely changes. looks like they have such a boss-employee relationship, and brady is terrified/overawed of bb.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 6 November 2014 16:49 (nine years ago) link

idk for how long manning has just been coolly jogging off the field immediately after a td pass but it makes me love goofy jacked up brady even more.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 6 November 2014 17:29 (nine years ago) link

https://www.netraffle.org/raffcon_2013/images/dyn/raffles/largeImage/Belichick%20Large%20Blue%20Shirt.jpg

this is the image the pats sent out with the email about bb's holiday raffle. i love that they scoured the archives for a smile and decided that him looking kinda puzzled was good enough. also the image filename is Belichick Large Blue Shirt.jpg which also needs recognition.

https://www.netraffle.org/raffle/index.php?rid=798

i will observe that from the description there the belichick foundation sound like one of the less worthy causes. might be better to help the truly needy and send 10 bucks to soldier field zzzzzing

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 10 November 2014 16:19 (nine years ago) link

Belichick Large Blue Shirt.jpg lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 10 November 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2XpnBJIMAAGocn.jpg

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:07 (nine years ago) link

that is classic material

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link

dead

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link

i cant even

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link

oh my goodness

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link

New England Patriots ‏@Patriots 21m21 minutes ago
We apologize for the regrettable tweet that went out from our account. Our filtering system failed & we will be more vigilant in the future.

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:50 (nine years ago) link

need to know why u wld automate something thats literally a one time event, like it doesnt even seem worth the trouble

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link

i guess so you cn go home at night?

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link

fuck that, what are interns for if not waiting around for the 1 millionth follower

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link

srsly

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link

ah ok anyone cld get an image just by tweeting at them wasnt really just their 1m follower, still dumb tho http://www.dailydot.com/sports/new-england-patriots-twitter-racism

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 05:44 (nine years ago) link

This is amazing

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, 14 November 2014 14:34 (nine years ago) link

new-england-patriots-twitter-racism

the farakhan of gg (DJP), Friday, 14 November 2014 14:35 (nine years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

in the future we will get all our news via url

lag∞n, Friday, 14 November 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link

Weedlord Bonerhitler strikes again!!

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Friday, 14 November 2014 14:56 (nine years ago) link

wb legarrette!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/de/LeGarrette_Blount.JPG

call all destroyer, Thursday, 20 November 2014 14:25 (nine years ago) link

niice!

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 November 2014 14:28 (nine years ago) link

Four of the incompletions were judged to be dropped and nine more were defended -- broken up, batted or intercepted -- by the Patriots. Both of those last two figures were season highs for Stafford. Seven of those defended passes were intended for receiver Calvin Johnson or Golden Tate. (Stafford targeted each of them with 10 passes and completed four apiece.)

from ESPN piece on stafford's performance highlighting bang up job pats pass defense did. not too shabby.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

jamie collins is so good. the whole linebacking corps is looking nice right now but him, hightower and mayo (assuming he can ever get thru a season anymore) are str8 elite dudes.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

tru

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:52 (nine years ago) link

in other news bench browner

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:53 (nine years ago) link

naw don't get carried away with those penalties. he is being told to play like that. and he's effective otherwise, a big drop off to the next guy at cb. also, some of those penalties, feeling where a receiver is is not a gddamn PI call, officials just too ready to flag his number, just like that fumble hit last week that they admitted was bs.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link

he has so many penalties man

lag∞n, Sunday, 14 December 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link

the pi was a bad call, and i wholeheartedly supported the unnecessary roughness (both the act and the ensuing call).

call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 December 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link

collins is becoming a unique player in the league with his speed and timing. i love watching him blow shit up.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 14 December 2014 22:30 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B42ckB8CEAAVUeQ.jpg

call all destroyer, Monday, 15 December 2014 00:12 (nine years ago) link

revis and ayers should get together tonight with some beers and the titans v jets game on dvr

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 15 December 2014 00:22 (nine years ago) link

no kidding, i'm not even sure it's reasonable to describe that thing as a football game from what i saw

call all destroyer, Monday, 15 December 2014 00:23 (nine years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Monday, 15 December 2014 00:23 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

baltimore is clearly not very good/beat up but that match up still makes me nervous and i would so much rather have pittsburgh come to foxboro.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 December 2014 05:06 (nine years ago) link

pittsburgh is welcome here anytime.

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 December 2014 05:34 (nine years ago) link

simmons on some bizarre twitter rant about how brady's deal has been renegotiated to make it easier to release him after the season

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 December 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link

lol wut

lag∞n, Monday, 29 December 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link

simmons on some bizarre twitter rant about how brady's deal has been renegotiated to make it easier to release him after the season

― Roberto Spiralli, Monday, December 29, 2014 6:22 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kinda surprised he's not tryna paint him as the dirk nowitzki of the NFL

passag limey witticisms (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 30 December 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link

SIGH

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 4 January 2015 04:16 (nine years ago) link

w/e the ravens suck

call all destroyer, Sunday, 4 January 2015 04:16 (nine years ago) link

idk when every playoff disappointment in recent memory has been against a team with a strong aggressive defensive front... i just would've rather any other team

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 4 January 2015 04:20 (nine years ago) link

fuk the ravens fuk joe flacao

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 January 2015 04:25 (nine years ago) link

floe jacco

mookieproof, Sunday, 4 January 2015 04:32 (nine years ago) link

commiz mookie

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 4 January 2015 04:43 (nine years ago) link

i'm never on this thread but i should probably post this early candidate for interview of the year: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/01/06/a_gronking_to_remember_an_interview_with_lacey_noonan_author_of_rob_gronkowski.html

JoeStork, Friday, 9 January 2015 05:45 (nine years ago) link

Lacey Noonan gives a good interview! My highlight:

I remember reading about how Kafka didn't want the "bug" on the cover of Metamorphosis. Gronk's spike impacts in a mystical, non-physical realm of Leigh's being. Although, quickly scanning my Word doc, I found that I wrote "between her butt-cheeks." So, jury's still out on that one.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Friday, 9 January 2015 14:32 (nine years ago) link

@BleacherReport: A potential juror showed up to Aaron Hernandez’s trial wearing a Bruins jersey & yelled “Go Pats,” was asked to leave

polyphonic, Saturday, 10 January 2015 05:02 (nine years ago) link

jvmic

mookieproof, Saturday, 10 January 2015 05:10 (nine years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 January 2015 05:46 (nine years ago) link

liz lemon

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 10 January 2015 12:32 (nine years ago) link

watching Terrell Suggs smugly talk about Tom Brady. ugh, I don't think I could hate a team more than the Baltimore Ravens.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 10 January 2015 21:17 (nine years ago) link

good post by matt chatham on the eligibility plays: http://www.footballbyfootball.com/column/hot-mess-nfl-rulebook-strikes-again

It bears mentioning that the place in the game of football where disguising the eligible receivers is most prevalent is punt team. Punt teams fairly regularly change up eligibility as they enter the field of play, and like to screw with opponents for potential punt fakes by changing the typical balance in the line. What makes this extra juicy is that both Belichick and Harbaugh are former special teams coaches.

Every team in the NFL has what we referred to as a "safe" call...a presnap zone check that makes sure there are no mistakes if something bizarre happens because the defense just guards areas and not specific people. Who's eligible at that point doesn't really matter. The Ravens have a rookie middle linebacker, I'm not sure if that contributed to them not checking into a better call. But the players on the field have to put the defense in the best position possible. The NFL isn't college, there's plenty of onfield autonomy to make the necessary changes when the other team is trying to screw with you.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:36 (nine years ago) link

we're off to the super bowl fellas

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 12 January 2015 00:52 (nine years ago) link

http://www.nfl.com/videos/inside-the-nfl/0ap3000000459067/Inside-the-NFL-Ravens-vs-Patriots-highlights

it's all good but be sure to check around 4:40 for the ref's facial expression.

call all destroyer, Friday, 16 January 2015 00:24 (nine years ago) link

haha. lots of good expressions right around that time.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 16 January 2015 03:45 (nine years ago) link

julian edelman, user of the internet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9BBjLOwQM

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

that's p good work

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 23 January 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

created by robert kraft

Sounds like a forks display name (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 January 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

Patriots trade with Eagles

By Mike Rodak | April 30, 2011 3:32:06 PM PDT
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- The Patriots have traded their sixth-round selection (193rd overall) to the Eagles for the Eagles' sixth-round selection (194th overall).

No other selections were involved in the trade, which moves the Patriots back one spot in the draft.

lag∞n, Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Sunday, 25 January 2015 23:01 (nine years ago) link

good article http://grantland.com/the-triangle/bill-belichick-nfl-draft-new-england-patriots

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 January 2015 03:02 (nine years ago) link

feel like this exact piece already exists but whatever still cool
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/28/bill-belichick-library-steve-belichick-naval-academy/

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 28 January 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3930791/3_medium.png

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:37 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B80DxkyCYAA1qHE.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:41 (nine years ago) link

Tom Pelissero ‏@TomPelissero 2h2 hours ago
Guy in #Raiders hat interviewing LeGarrette Blount thinking he's Brandon Browner and Blount is just rolling with it

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:43 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8z49rECYAEK4TD.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:45 (nine years ago) link

i just watched unaccountable amounts of post game and still no gdamn vince interview

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:47 (nine years ago) link

i haven't since vince even once! i saw akeem ayers and casillas but no vince.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:50 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8z1WF0CMAEXMwc.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:50 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8zwVnwCcAAP31x.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:50 (nine years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^^^

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:51 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/n6vMfy7.gif

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 05:55 (nine years ago) link

Gronk said they were getting Rick Ross to play their party tonight

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 February 2015 07:10 (nine years ago) link

:D

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 12:55 (nine years ago) link

Is a patrito a diminutive Latino/mexican patriot? Do they have patrita partners?
I keep seeing the title of this thread and wondering, like.

Stevolende, Monday, 2 February 2015 12:59 (nine years ago) link

Gronk said they were getting Rick Ross to play their party tonight
--kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

surprising if true, would expect something more like imagine dragons for this team

indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Monday, 2 February 2015 13:29 (nine years ago) link

what does that even mean

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 February 2015 13:39 (nine years ago) link

that I can easily imagine tom brady liking imagine dragons?

indie fuxxor albums i have secretly spotified (slothroprhymes), Monday, 2 February 2015 13:43 (nine years ago) link

???

, Monday, 2 February 2015 13:44 (nine years ago) link

i was on the phone with my early '90s roommate -- a low-bore Pats fan -- at the end of the game, and couldn't explain to him why they are such a loathed franchise outside of N.E. ("They haven't won in 10 years!" was his protest.) Any good columns on this recently?

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 February 2015 17:55 (nine years ago) link

idk why i should explain this to anyone but: 2007, spygate, "running up the score," 18-1, been loathed ever since.

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:02 (nine years ago) link

i mean their unprecedented degree of success in the salary cap era would result in them being loathed for one reason or another, but 2007 is really what it comes down to in terms of when and why the tide turned.

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:03 (nine years ago) link

good info here too: http://tinyurl.com/4blq6y

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:04 (nine years ago) link

also: terrible in Tecmo Super Bowl

ok

i don't know what "2007" means.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 February 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

also: Tom Brady is not a good ole boy manning type

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B821wP8CUAE_ORf.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:27 (nine years ago) link

tom brady has become the best troll in the nfl and this postseason was his masterpiece

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 2 February 2015 18:35 (nine years ago) link

or the giant winter hat

http://www.sportspickle.com/wp-content/gallery/the-most-embarrassing-tom-brady-photos/brady1.jpg

am0n, Monday, 2 February 2015 18:55 (nine years ago) link

hey am i the only one who didn't know that LaGarrotte Blount is the nephew of SUN RA?????? wow

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 February 2015 19:15 (nine years ago) link

ha what really

lag∞n, Monday, 2 February 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

This run against the Colts not only highlights Blount's intelligence as a runner but also his athleticism to negate potential tacklers in space.

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Monday, 2 February 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

i didn't know that! crazy.

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 February 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

ha what really

― lag∞n, Monday, February 2, 2015 1:17 PM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yah sun ra is herman blount, i guess lagarrote is is grand nephew crazy world

the vikings had christian ballard for awhile, grandson of r&b legend hank ballard but i guess he quit football altogether

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 February 2015 19:39 (nine years ago) link

kevin love is the nephew of beach boy mike love

lag∞n, Monday, 2 February 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

yah but that's well publicized i feel like

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 February 2015 19:43 (nine years ago) link

that '07 wiki thing remains puzzling... so they became hated for daring to lose only the Super Bowl?

I'm not even sure who was in the World Series when ppl say a year like "2007" (but prob 2nd Red Sox title?) because if leagues in the Tournament Era wanted us to remember, they wouldn't have 4000 rounds of playoffs to anonymize everything.

touch of a love-starved cobra (Dr Morbius), Monday, 2 February 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

It was annoying because fans had to endure a month of "Is this the best NFL team ever? Yes, definitely!" thinkpieces leading up to them losing to Eli Manning.

one thing that irked people in 2007 was this idea that the Pats unnecessarily ran up the scores in their games. it wasn't very sporting or somesuch.

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Monday, 2 February 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

and of course there was spygate

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Monday, 2 February 2015 19:53 (nine years ago) link

that '07 wiki thing remains puzzling... so they became hated for daring to lose only the Super Bowl?

they got branded as cheaters following the first week of the season, and their response was to mercilessly napalm the league to the tune of scores like 52-7 and 56-10 while playing offense at a level that hasn't really been seen before or since.

by the time the playoffs rolled around, the country could be understood in rooting against them.

call all destroyer, Monday, 2 February 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

yah sun ra is herman blount, i guess lagarrote is is grand nephew crazy world

not quite as cool, but also shane vereen/ben vereen (first cousin, once removed).

fact checking cuz, Monday, 2 February 2015 21:14 (nine years ago) link

Omg there's so many people on a football team

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 16:59 (nine years ago) link

running backs duck boat seems like the most fun

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

you watching from the street btw?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:05 (nine years ago) link

On the scene

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link

I think they had the militia fire off at one point, certainly there was a loud unexpected bang that was well received on Boylston. Very 30 Rock

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:19 (nine years ago) link

yeah on tv they said the militia had fired. love the militia, those guys are great.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9BE0nLIUAAfByS.png

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:34 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9BHdwoIgAECkGG.jpg

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:48 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9BFF_lIUAAk9I1.jpg

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:50 (nine years ago) link

heh

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 17:54 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/BwuBs2F.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 18:07 (nine years ago) link

niice

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

@ProFootballTalk
Serious question: Will Gronk be cited for public consumption of alcohol? Anyone else would be.

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

srs question

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

omg what a loser

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

PFT is like a sanctimonious TMZ for the nfl

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

the answer is no

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

serious question what is it like to be a giant baby masquerading as an adult journalist

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

simmons piece was p good, i liked this analysis of the big play

Check out Butler walking up to Browner and warning him what’s coming.

Check out Browner foiling the pick play by jumping right into Kearse and holding him so he doesn’t pick Butler.

Check out Butler sprinting at warp speed to the exact spot where the ball was heading. He beat Seattle’s own receiver to the spot. Think about that for a second.

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link

makes u think

mookieproof, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:28 (nine years ago) link

#analysis

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

wow getting some tuff pushback here, good stuff

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:33 (nine years ago) link

i don't feel like that play was all that noteworthy outside of its context

polyphonic, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

guess well never know huh

lag∞n, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:34 (nine years ago) link

it was a great play for sure, regardless of the circumstances that is always going to be one of the best couple plays of any game, no more than that maybe but certainly no less. the defense diagnosed a tendency and the player made a terrific physical play on it.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:42 (nine years ago) link

butler's pass breakup on kearse earlier in that drive was textbook as well, idk if we'll ever hear from him again but he certainly seems to get how to play the position

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:46 (nine years ago) link

i remember he was hyped in the offseason and then had a couple missed plays in the few times he showed up in the regular season that cooled things off. he has got to be worth having around for a while, he offers something different as CB depth vs the other guys, as demonstrated in the big game there. still not sure what i think of logan ryan and i know belichick loves arrington but he is super limited and can only be used in certain spots imo.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9A7RchIQAEAt-1.jpg

polyphonic, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link

you can see the parade fatigue etched on his face

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 21:53 (nine years ago) link

on parade strike

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 21:55 (nine years ago) link

Oh man, Legarette

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--xYf_-LAb--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/lze1jvuvntqcjx0rkzkc.jpg

That's just rude. (Those two were playing at Oregon and Cal at the same time, though, right? Bad blood is old.)

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 23:41 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/biCkQjN.jpg

, Thursday, 5 February 2015 12:21 (nine years ago) link

xp it's tru pac-12 rivalries are sirrious business

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 5 February 2015 12:49 (nine years ago) link

Inside the Effort to Brand Tom Brady

fact checking cuz, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:09 (nine years ago) link

dont want to click... and yet i am powerless

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link

Branded

, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:51 (nine years ago) link

prob 3 too many things going on here

http://www.adweek.com/files/imagecache/test-width/tom-brady-logo-hed-2015.png

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link

comments are funny, and makes sense that the article is really about promoting some PR douche because tombo ratcheting up the brand is not news for anyone in Feb 2015

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:57 (nine years ago) link

the logo is amazing, going for some kind of 70s world cup look

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:58 (nine years ago) link

such a bad logo, wouldn't think it would be so hard to do something with tb12

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

looks like a logo for a defunct hockey team

call all destroyer, Friday, 6 February 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link

it has so many overlaping characters in it its impossible to perceive them all at once

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2015 19:00 (nine years ago) link

if u look at the vertical and horizontal lines as an L then it is actually my govt initials. i am totally stealing this.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 February 2015 19:01 (nine years ago) link

u cn see the whole universe in there m/l

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link

more inscrutable than jIIm manziel thing

men without hat tips (Hunt3r), Friday, 6 February 2015 19:28 (nine years ago) link

Pretty sick that Tom Brady is gonna star in the new Terminator 2 remake

, Friday, 6 February 2015 19:29 (nine years ago) link

made a better logo

TOM BRADY NUMBER 12

lag∞n, Friday, 6 February 2015 19:30 (nine years ago) link

it looks like a brainstorming whiteboard after every single thing anyone blurted out has been written down and nothing has been erased yet.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 6 February 2015 19:31 (nine years ago) link

tom i have a concept for a new logo, it is a jumble wherein you can find 'tom' 'brady' '12' 'qb' 'nfl' 'newenglandpatriots' and many other relevant brady buzzwords, call me

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 February 2015 19:40 (nine years ago) link

dude deserves the lifetime of humiliation that he has just embarked upon tbf

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 February 2015 13:41 (nine years ago) link

"I think really Mike, nobody has done it better than you have. Having good people around you, having good assistants; our coordinators Coach [Josh] McDaniels and Coach [Matt] Patricia, Scott O’Brien on special teams, Nick Caserio, who runs our personnel department, those guys really do a great job," Belichick said. "They know what we want; we talk about it. Of course the game evolves a little bit from year to year, your team changes from year to year, but we kind of put together what we feel like gives us the best opportunity to work towards that end.

"I try to manage that and not screw it up, but those guys do a great job of pulling it together and we’ve been together for a long time and that continuity has really enabled me, given me confidence to give them more decision-making ability, more responsibility, and that’s probably benefited the overall organization quite a bit.”

“I’m not caught up as much in some of the details or micromanaging, maybe, that I did earlier in my career," Belichick said. "I have people that can probably do that a lot better than I can anyway, and I turn that over to them and they’ve done a great job with it. So it’s definitely an evolution and, of course, the game is changing all the time. I mean, five years ago in the NFL we weren’t even talking about read-options and reading defensive ends and stuff like that. We were reading safeties. You’ve got to be able to progress along with the schemes and the players that you’re working with as well, so that’s been a big part of it, too."

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 February 2015 00:21 (nine years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-F6L8vIYAECPfG.jpg

just looking at this picture of bill hanging out with indiana hoops and realized for the first time that i guess mike lombardi has a super bowl ring now.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 18 February 2015 12:59 (nine years ago) link

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 5 March 2015 15:07 (nine years ago) link

loyalty

Maybe in 100 years someone will say damn Dawn was dope. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 5 March 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link

oh stop it

call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 March 2015 15:43 (nine years ago) link

:`(

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, 5 March 2015 16:44 (nine years ago) link

:[

lag∞n, Thursday, 5 March 2015 16:47 (nine years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/ySU4q3o.jpg

rational_skull_collector_69 (lag∞n), Sunday, 8 March 2015 16:37 (nine years ago) link

Let’s welcome Ndamukong Suh to the AFC East. D:

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 8 March 2015 19:44 (nine years ago) link

plz dont step on brady face

rational_skull_collector_69 (lag∞n), Sunday, 8 March 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link

i was always curious how much of suh's bs was actually suh vs a lions culture that transparently encouraged unsportsmanlike play, sadly i don't think miami is the place where i'm going to get any answers.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 8 March 2015 23:59 (nine years ago) link

mccourty 9m+/yr is mind blowing, i figured he was gone. guess that means no revis. the way cbs have been getting paid he is going to get insane money

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 March 2015 03:21 (nine years ago) link

wow. really surprising considering bb's long history of letting good defensive backs walk away. i still hope they make a serious play to retain revis, and at this point nothing would surprise me.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 9 March 2015 04:07 (nine years ago) link

i love revis island

rational_skull_collector_69 (lag∞n), Monday, 9 March 2015 05:49 (nine years ago) link

i think there's still room to get revis in too. i could have gone either way on this deal but if you're going to take care of a player with a contract like that mccourty is not a bad choice at all.

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 March 2015 11:51 (nine years ago) link

yeah mccourty is a pretty safe place to stack those chips. i think they are up against or over the cap already so i assumed they could only take one of the two but i guess never discount contract numbers magic. still, i will be surprised, it does look like crazy money is out there for revis if he wants it.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 March 2015 12:04 (nine years ago) link

i think there's still room to get revis in too. i could have gone either way on this deal but if you're going to take care of a player with a contract like that mccourty is not a bad choice at all.

I hope so. I just spent an hour trying to make this work, but I realized I don’t understand the NFL cap. At all.

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 9 March 2015 12:50 (nine years ago) link

yeah as i understand it it's a matter of being freed up from a couple other commitments (mayo, wilfork, etc.) plus the fact that mccourty's new contract is very likely backloaded and may carry only a 4-5 million hit this year.

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 March 2015 13:49 (nine years ago) link

i'm normally under the impression that teams can finagle the cap at any point to get any player they want (i.e. the saints being way over the cap last season but somehow signing jairus byrd to the richest contract ever for a safety), it's more of a case of if they want to potentially fuck themselves down the road

J0rdan S., Monday, 9 March 2015 13:52 (nine years ago) link

right

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 March 2015 13:53 (nine years ago) link

which is a very un-pats approach but maybe they are going all in for 1-2 season last blowout, tb and bb hit the cigars, peace out mothefuckers

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 March 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link

mothfuckers

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 March 2015 14:04 (nine years ago) link

they've paid plenty of guys at market rates tho, vince got paid, solder got paid, mankins got paid. i guess two in one offseason is a bigger deal.

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 March 2015 14:12 (nine years ago) link

seems crazy but jerod mayo may be the sacrificial lamb in all of this

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 March 2015 14:22 (nine years ago) link

i think that's extremely likely

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 March 2015 14:26 (nine years ago) link

if the pats cuts mayo while the jets' marquee resigning is giving david harris $15m guaranteed for 2 years, that will be a neat encapsulation of the variance between the two organizations

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 March 2015 14:34 (nine years ago) link

sheard is a pretty nice addition. i don't know the db from oakland, chekwa

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 March 2015 01:44 (nine years ago) link

chekwa sounds like a die roll but i've read nothing but positives about sheard, sounds perfect for their style of defense

call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 March 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link

rip revis island

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 March 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link

revis island will be reopening in the fall. outlook for next season is a balmy 8-8 degrees

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 12 March 2015 02:17 (nine years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 March 2015 02:19 (nine years ago) link

Doug Kyed @DougKyedNESN · 18m 18 minutes ago
Will Belichick be in Madden this year? “I don’t know. You should ask John about that.”

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 24 March 2015 15:33 (nine years ago) link

somewhere, shaughnessy and simmons simultaneously write columns about how gronk's retrograde-ass statements are secretly feminist https://twitter.com/bostonglobe/status/583091537107632128

pimento is a cheese, some call it the caviar of the south (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 1 April 2015 02:30 (nine years ago) link

lol wut

lag∞n, Monday, 6 April 2015 15:45 (nine years ago) link

yeah, no

three weeks pass...

reiss had jordan richards in his preview as a late round target. nfl.com rated him 6-7th round prospect.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 2 May 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link

NEVER CHANGE PATRITOS

call all destroyer, Saturday, 2 May 2015 01:54 (nine years ago) link

i guess this guy grissom is reputedly a bizarre reach as well...

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 2 May 2015 03:19 (nine years ago) link

he has no position so bill loves him:

Grissom briefly moved to tight end in 2012 before shifting back to defensive end. “No, we’re not trying to make him a tight end, but his workout as a tight end is about as good of a tight end workout as we saw all year,” Belichick said. “I mean, this guy can run, he can catch. If you didn’t know he didn’t play tight end, you would look at that workout and say ‘that’s a pretty good tight end.'”

call all destroyer, Saturday, 2 May 2015 13:55 (nine years ago) link

arrington released, reiss hints he may be back. also fred davis signed on 1yr. haven't seen the deal yet but will be surprised if they can't cut him in preseason for free.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 11 May 2015 14:11 (nine years ago) link

Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Breaking: Grandy Jury indicts Aaron Hernandez for shooting Alexander Bradley, who allegedly witnessed double homicide

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

all of this is reminding me of when Cheney shot his hunting partner in the face

DJP, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:42 (nine years ago) link

lol tru

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 19:45 (nine years ago) link

oops!

mookieproof, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:35 (nine years ago) link

Adam Schefter ✔@AdamSchefter
Filed to ESPN: Tom Brady suspended four games, Pats lose 1st round pick in 2016 and a 4th in 2017, and team fined $1 million, per source:

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Monday, 11 May 2015 21:37 (nine years ago) link

fun!

polyphonic, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:42 (nine years ago) link

they going to appeal this? such bs imo
absurdly disproportionate (not convinced brady did anything wrong)

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 11 May 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link

whole lot of locals on my twitter suddenly saying they care about how this punishment is unfair compared to the initial ray rice ruling (which is true, the proportions are fucked, NFL's a mess obviously) when there was not a peep to be heard from said locals when the ray rice shit was actually happening

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:54 (nine years ago) link

definitely seems disproportionate. I think by now I've accepted that he probably did it but 4 games? that's only one less than Albert Haynesworth got for stomping on a guy's chest, and more than another player got recently for child endangerment.

I'd have been fine with it just being a fine and loss of draft pick for the team. and the Wells report stopped short of full confidence that Brady was implicated.

oh well, helps my team out....but not liking the precedent here. I'm fairly sure if the NFL looked closer for these smaller types of competitive cheats they could find it across the other 31 teams.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:56 (nine years ago) link

i am cool with it if it fuels some scowly brady v world march through the league and to another ring! wld be entertaining and good imo

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 21:57 (nine years ago) link

what a bunch of BS, I hope they appeal

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Monday, 11 May 2015 22:00 (nine years ago) link

so probable footballs .5 psi under is way more detrimental to the league than any of the guys in domestic violence incidents

is this decision based off the public outrage about the whole #deflategate story - outrage that was generated by leaks from the NFL during the investigation?

sigh

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 11 May 2015 22:01 (nine years ago) link

it is inherently a steep punishment (the fine, a pick and maybe one game tops would be the most extreme i'd think of imo, they broke the rule but the rule is relatively minor) and even more when you compare it with rice, but goodell had to in order to make ppl forget for a little bit how long he's been in robert kraft's pocket

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:08 (nine years ago) link

I have a Dolphin's fan friend who is mad the suspensions weren't further reaching and steeper and comparing this to Bountygate.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link

kinda understandable - the bountygate penalties were really steep especially considering how spurious a fair amount of the accusations levied against the saints ended up being

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:13 (nine years ago) link

the penalty shd be the pats balls get over inflated all season, an eye for an eye

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:14 (nine years ago) link

its too bad the pats didnt win the spygate superbowl wld be cooler if the benefited maximally from their evil deeds

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link

also less emotionally traumatic for me

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link

losing 33% of one's season over deflated balls kinda seems ridic. I mean did the ball deflation also prevent the Colts from playing pass defense ?

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:17 (nine years ago) link

of course not the colts sucked

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:18 (nine years ago) link

idk feel like its fine for the league to come down hard on cheating what are sports but rules after all makes u think

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:21 (nine years ago) link

I think every holding penalty should result in the offender having to ride a little scooter in circles on the sideline for two minutes while the rest of the team plays down a man

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

just like hockey

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

lol seems reasonable

speaking as someone who isnt a pats fan really but can appreciate their talent/achievements, this whole thing didn't like offend my sensibilities or anything, it's more like...why bother, aren't you the goddamn patriots, you're one of the 3 or 4 best teams in the NFL, winning games is what y'all /do/

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link

of course if the suspension was any longer or any shorter, then brady's first game back wouldn't be a sunday night game. against the colts. which is a little bit too, um, scripted.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link

(and i think while the investigation was completely silly, the punishment is fair enough considering everything, including brady's completely remorseless reaction.)

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link

the league shd be giving the patriots an award for putting together one of the alltime great sports heals imho

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:25 (nine years ago) link

like im not sure even the steinbrenner yankees were this cartoonishly malicious

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:26 (nine years ago) link

should add a 'tom brady hands' unit to stat sheet for measuring total passing distance by a QB so that super cool QBs like me can laugh at tom's tiny hands

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:27 (nine years ago) link

xp lol, they weren't at all! steinbrenner himself was bc he had private detectives try and dig up shit on people the team wasn't really aside from vintage era a-rod.

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link

(among other classic george behaviors)

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link

it's also why i've never been into the pats despite having parents from boston, being raised to cheer the other boston teams and living here now - not the heel aspect i dont dig so much as the slavish worship similar to what the yankees always got but hey different strokes/different folks

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link

/scarface im the bad guy scene with bradys head on there or w/e/

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link

if i had grown up here from jump would be in full homer anger mode i'm sure, i'm not above such things

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link

xp lolllll

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link

whereas the Stengel/Houk Yankees were famous for Whitey Ford discreetly doctoring the ball and Yogi Berra intentionally nicking it on his shinguards before throwing back to the pitcher.

and there was Mickey Mantle's "beaver shooting"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link

xxxpost

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link

when i was a kid the pats were the worst franchise in the nfl so i basically have a successful republican small businessmans level of entitlement re their success

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link

i made them with my futilely clapping sad childs hands no one helped me or believed in me

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link

haha that's all the pats fans i know irl

xp

horseshoe, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link

i totally understand that, i think one of the first super bowls i watched as a kid was packers-pats, the last parcells one, and i remember my mom talking about how much they usually sucked and how surprised she was by them even being there

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link

shit is sad

Sufjan Grafton, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

the turn of how the fandom viewed them - from lovable scamps to unassailable saint-creatures - once they started winning was so much faster and so much of a harder skid than even the first two red sox titles, it was like WHOA.

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link

yeah they were an after thought in the boston sports hierarchy

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:41 (nine years ago) link

I want to draw a cartoon where Brady is doing his pre-game football routine where he is picking out the balls when suddenly he notices that they feel a little deflated. He jumps up, runs for the nearest ref crying "HALP HALP THESE BALLS ARE SQUISHY!! PLEASE REF, SAVE THE DAY FROM THESE SQUISHY BALLS".

okay maybe it wouldn't be that funny, but goddamn, even if Brady didn't know about teamsters and their needles, who the hell would report it?

The Once-ler, Monday, 11 May 2015 22:51 (nine years ago) link

the penalty seems to be about arrogance on both sides - how far it escalated without getting anyone to admit they did something, and therefore showing what happens if you don't cooperate 100% with the all powerful nfl.

watching closely how NE has operated over the past 10+ years, if kraft/belichick believe brady is also responsible, i'd expect they would do something - bench him, even. kraft cares way more about the brand of the pats organization than he does about any one player.

i wish the season was starting and there could just be football without all this drama

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 11 May 2015 22:57 (nine years ago) link

it's true we all diminished for this

irl sweatpants (Hunt3r), Monday, 11 May 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link

eh I think that is true for everyone but touchdown tom if only bc brady is the root of everything, he is the ultimate belichick vanity reclamation project, the proof of his brilliance (and kraft's but less so) that validates those years where he was (in his mind of have to assume) an underappreciated assistant

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link

(xp)

*i have to assume

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:00 (nine years ago) link

everyone is on the table & no one matters because the system etc. but I really don't think that will ever apply to brady

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:02 (nine years ago) link

brady IS the system!

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:03 (nine years ago) link

yeah kraft and beli shd prob retire as soon as toms gone

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:04 (nine years ago) link

i've always assumed beli and brady will retire together. no need for kraft to retire, though. money still gonna come in.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:05 (nine years ago) link

kraft needs to like "put one of his sons in charge" so he can blame him

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:07 (nine years ago) link

absolutely that's how it worked for the steinbrenners, no one blames the unsustainable groundwork laid by george, they blame the dumbass sons

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:09 (nine years ago) link

or the buss family but tbf the groundwork was quite sustainable but jim buss is an idiotic garbage child

slothroprhymes, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

everything i've read about belichick/brady gives me the impression that they are not exactly friends and brady gets yelled at same as anyone on the team in practice, and I really think if kraft and belichick believe brady is at fault here, something would happen. this is the coach who benched welker during the first series of a playoff game for joking around at a press conference. i read that the pats already suspended the two equipment guys when the report came out. i know, it's brady, but kraft cares about the brand first.. there was already plenty of talk early last season (when they were 2-2) on how brady's exit from NE would not be on his terms.. the moment the next guy played better he'd be gone.. that's how they are

basically i don't think kraft would stand behind him if he believed brady was guilty here so i'm curious to see if pats put out another statement

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 11 May 2015 23:14 (nine years ago) link

there was already plenty of talk early last season (when they were 2-2) on how brady's exit from NE would not be on his terms.. the moment the next guy played better he'd be gone.

but that was just talk, and it was outsider talk. they've dealt harshly with stars galore through the years, from welker and mankins and woodhead back to seymour, milloy, law, etc., but they've never done anything that even remotely suggest brady isn't the one untouchable centerpiece of their galaxy. (and as a fan i have no problem with that!)

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:18 (nine years ago) link

and i don't think either belichick or kraft gives two fucks if brady underinflated his footballs.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:19 (nine years ago) link

r u kidding they LOVE it

lag∞n, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:21 (nine years ago) link

he's only untouchable because there isn't a better QB available for less money. i was trying to think of the last quote i read on this & it was brady's father telling reporters before the super bowl that he fully expected things in NE to end badly, eventually

kraft cares a LOT about the value of the franchise. if most of the public decides the pats are shady cheaters because of this he definitely cares

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 11 May 2015 23:25 (nine years ago) link

as sports crimes go, i'd equate throwing underinflated footballs with a baseball pitcher throwing spitballs.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:26 (nine years ago) link

there isn't a better QB available for less money

there, that's better.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 11 May 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link

and i'm just saying all this because i don't believe the nfl finding fault with brady here. if kraft/belichick do something to indicate brady is also to blame for this, then i'd believe it

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 11 May 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link

nah you're right. brady or rodgers best QB

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Monday, 11 May 2015 23:27 (nine years ago) link

Kraft:

"Despite our conviction that there was no tampering with footballs, it was our intention to accept any discipline levied by the league. Today’s punishment, however, far exceeded any reasonable expectation. It was based completely on circumstantial rather than hard or conclusive evidence.

"We are humbled by the support the New England Patriots have received from our fans throughout the world. We recognize our fans’ concerns regarding the NFL’s penalties and share in their disappointment in how this one-sided investigation was handled, as well as the dismissal of the scientific evidence supported by the Ideal Gas Law in the final report.

"Tom Brady has our unconditional support. Our belief in him has not wavered."

Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:23 (nine years ago) link

B-)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:33 (nine years ago) link

need a youtube with robert kraft explaining the ideal gas law

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:35 (nine years ago) link

gotta say this is pretty funny

do other team fanbases genuinely kind of adore their oligarch owners of late or is it just the pats and kraft

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:42 (nine years ago) link

like I don't see the average cowboys fan (and I know quite a few) being like "wow jerry jones what a great dude"

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:43 (nine years ago) link

White, media-friendly superstar suspended for allegedly cheating. WHAT AN OUTRAGE, amirite

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:45 (nine years ago) link

I don't think anyone here is that outraged morbs chill

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:46 (nine years ago) link

if u bring the rings home sports fans will love u regardless if ur an owner player coach trainer whatever

lag∞n, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:46 (nine years ago) link

*checks mets score* oh that's why morbs is mad

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:47 (nine years ago) link

i'm going more by the reaction of the Great Unwashed

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:48 (nine years ago) link

xp I guess it's just not something I personally think about much, like I attribute that to coaches/managers and GMs more than those who write the checks

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:48 (nine years ago) link

i don't get upset by one of 162 games, sloth

vs the crapshoot that are most NFL playoff games

the increasing costive borborygmi (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link

do other team fanbases genuinely kind of adore their oligarch owners of late or is it just the pats and kraft

the rooneys are pretty revered in pittsburgh, even as the generations pass from their humble beginnings. on the spectrum of nfl owners, i feel like they're okay even though they evidently support goodell

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:50 (nine years ago) link

'the spectrum of nfl owners' is pretty fucked up tho

mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:51 (nine years ago) link

I recall there being a sort of cult around al davis, like a "he's our demonic asshole" thing but he is obvs long gone and it did not carry over to his horribly haired spawn

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 01:53 (nine years ago) link

fuck this, a first-round pick is a complete outrage

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 02:00 (nine years ago) link

New mascot PerVNeRT the Patriot

Sufjan Grafton, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 04:59 (nine years ago) link

Davis is one of the most important dudes in NFL history, so we cut him some slack in his tracksuit years.

He stood up to the commish when no one else would. He was the Bill Simmons of his era.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 05:13 (nine years ago) link

People in Oakland talk about the "tuck rule" game fucking every day, by the way. It is maddening.

polyphonic, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 05:15 (nine years ago) link

http://deadspin.com/the-patriots-war-against-the-nfl-has-spilled-online-1703915895?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

Of course Kraft, one of Goodell’s strongest allies, could have smothered this in the crib years ago. Starting from Spygate, Goodell has been allowed to wield disciplinary powers like his big swinging dick, with only the ineffectual NFLPA opposing his arbitrary and publicity-driven punishments. And not one owner has publicly stood up for another. Not when Tom Benson lost coaches, players, money, and draft picks for a ginned up bounty scandal. Not when Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder were docked $46 million in cap space for spending “too much” in a year without a salary cap. Those were apparently acceptable to Kraft—or not worth weakening the commissioner—because they didn’t concern him. (“First they came for the Saints, and I did not speak out...”) Now the chickens are roosting, and they’re here for Tom Brady, and only now does Kraft apparently see a problem with having empowered the commissioner to be judge, jury, and executioner.

It’s more than a little disingenuous for Bob Kraft to act surprised that he’s lost control of the monster he helped create.

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 17:08 (nine years ago) link

feel like the kraftman should've realized putting goodell in his pocket would mean that goodell would have to occasionally pretend he was not in said pocket by enacting an ultimately excessive punishment for a fairly mundane rule violation, seems like an expected cost of doing business

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link

like how corrupt cops occasionally had to arrest mafia soldiers, its just how it works

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 17:14 (nine years ago) link

feel like four games at the start of the season, even if you lose two or three of them, is really not that big a deal with this team and this division. the issue for the patritos has always been how well they're playing in january and february, not how well they're playing in september.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link

you're right, the real competitive balance issue is the draft picks and i am at a loss as to how that punishment can be justified

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link

i think if the likely appeal is successful maybe they reduce it to one lost pick rather than two?

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 12 May 2015 17:32 (nine years ago) link

yeah docking a 1st rounder is harsh considering that it seems like only Tom, Bird, and the other guy knew about this

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 13:16 (nine years ago) link

wut, me worry
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE57eqcWYAAK7YV.jpg

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 18:26 (nine years ago) link

someone on twitter made the good point that if jimmy g plays week 1 there is a reasonable chance he is the best starting qb in the division by default.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 18:37 (nine years ago) link

tannehill ain't bad/is likely to improve, but even so...that's not saying much, like at all, so i would not be particularly comforted if i were a fan!

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 18:41 (nine years ago) link

him being the best in the AFC east is not saying much, that is

it's good there's no way he'd have to face miami bc suh would adore the chance to rip jimmy g's spine in half and eat the surrounding flesh, he'll have to make to with touchdown tom

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

*make do

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 18:42 (nine years ago) link

haters gonna hate:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/fivethirtyeight-dissects-the-deflategate-report/

benm: I think the much-maligned study by Warren Sharp about the Patriots having a low fumble rate should be taken more seriously, for sure. I mean, though it had flaws, at a very minimum that author correctly identified that the Patriots fumble rate has been absurdly small. I did my own calculations using binomial and Poisson models and found the same. <snip>
But the fun part is when you get all Bayesian about it. As I said at the time, the existence of the Patriots’ extremely low fumble rate, as a Bayesian matter, makes it much more likely that the Patriots were intentionally cheating – even though the link between fumble rates and inflation levels is only speculative. That’s the beauty of Bayesianism. But it gets better: Now that it seems likely that the Patriots were violating the rules to gain an advantage, the fact that they also had an extremely low fumble rate makes it more likely that the relationship between inflation levels and fumbling is real – and more likely that the Patriots have materially benefited from their cheating.
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/pasted_image_at_2015_05_06_11_58_am.png?w=610

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:05 (nine years ago) link

i'd equate throwing underinflated footballs with a baseball pitcher throwing spitballs. ... as every pitch he throws during the seventh game of a league championship series.

Aimless, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:12 (nine years ago) link

that 538 thing is so stupid it makes my head spin. i mean, ignore the fact that one of the issues is that the dataset itself is bullshit, and read what the guy wrote. after waving exciting words like poisson and bayesian around like a magic trick, his actual conclusion is that, although there is no evidence for causality, the existence of coincidence implies causality. it is basically the most wrong thing a "data journalist" can write. maybe the guy has already lost his job, we can only hope.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

Sorry, coming in to this late, but doesn't it seem like under-inflated balls would help more with dropped passes than fumbles?

schwantz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link

xp lost his job lol dude are you serious

it is a football team, its poor besieged saint sebastian is being hated on and the organization is being mocked, partially w/ good reason partially in a way thats going too far...

somehow you will survive, we all will

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:20 (nine years ago) link

one of the guys in the 538 convo is a pats fan and he's chill with it!

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

the reason I stopped weighing in on Deflategate is because, as a Boston resident who hates the Boston sports teams, it was becoming quickly apparent that very few people around me shared my incredulous delight at how ridiculous this entire thing had become and I was in danger of losing friends if I talked about it

pats is serious, man

DJP, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

i'd equate throwing underinflated footballs with a baseball pitcher throwing spitballs.

... as every pitch he throws during the seventh game of a league championship series.

well, yes, if he were a spitball pitcher, and if he and his team were good enough to get to the seventh game of a league championship series, that's exactly what he would try to do.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

xp yea as someone who also lives here and is into the sox and celtics (bc those were my folks' teams) but not the pats (for that and other reasons), it's been a colorful time around here in the bars and on twitter

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:26 (nine years ago) link

it baffles me - you'd be hard-pressed to find a sox fan, myself included, who won't be like, "yeaaaaah manny probably did some PEDs after they were ruled illegal and ortiz definitely did before the ban and maybe after."

but right now, of my pats fan friends, exactly one of them has been "they probably did some dumb shit they didn't need to do" and the rest are in full-on homerific "it's a CONSPIRACY" mode

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

but how many sox fans are like, ortiz should be suspended for a quarter of a season and the sox should forfeit a first round draft pick?

also, i don't think anyone would be repping hard for magic johnson and walt frazier if they were PED users, but no one seems to care that magic's lakers were ball inflaters and fraziers knicks were ball deflaters. and they were/are not alone.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:48 (nine years ago) link

well also keep in mind that some of this is blowback from the Pats having a deranged murderer on their roster

DJP, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:50 (nine years ago) link

if manny had been caught straight up during his sox tenure, i wouldn't have liked a huge suspension but would've grinned and bore it, not allege that it was a conspiracy of #haters jealous the sox and their #rangz

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:51 (nine years ago) link

and im on record upthread as saying the draft pick part of the penalty was too steep, thats a fair complaint afaic

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

xp *jealous of the

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

i don't think it's unfair to call about the obvious homerism here, and the patriots attract that just like they attract deranged murderers (are they any other kind?) and ball deflaters. but i also think it's kind of obvious why a reaction to balls being slightly underinflated would be markedly different from the reaction to players using steroids.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:55 (nine years ago) link

i don't think it's unfair to call OUT...

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:56 (nine years ago) link

fair point. better example would be the clay buchholz pine tar rumors. they weren't proven, but if they had been, i would be like, alright this sucks but the rules are the rules and the argument that they are dumb and arbitrary has to be dealt with elsewhere, serve the penalty, come back & make em pay from the mound

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 19:58 (nine years ago) link

that's a fair point too. and that's pretty much how i feel. i think the accusations were overblown, i think the investigation was ridiculously overblown, and i think the punishment is probably deserved (even if awkwardly delivered).

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:01 (nine years ago) link

(and, yeah, not a fan of the draft pick penalty either! but i figure what ends up happening is they get to show off jimmy g for four games, which is enough make him valuable enough to eventually trade him for a pretty good draft pick in return.)

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:02 (nine years ago) link

worst case scenario: they lose four straight, brady comes back and they win almost all of the rest and prob at very least make the wild card and its off to the races from there, bc even with the other AFC east teams' free agent acquisitions they all have sizable holes that even a touchdown tomless version of the pats doesn't really have

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:17 (nine years ago) link

well also keep in mind that some of this is blowback from the Pats having a deranged murderer on their roster

I would guess most of it is from Spygate

frogbs, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link

ha I forgot about Spygate

DJP, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link

pats is serious, man

― DJP, Wednesday, May 13, 2015 3:23 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah as a pats fan its weird to me that ppl cant enjoy this more especially since the cheating occurred during a season in which the patriots won the superbowl, like its a good opportunity to gloat if anything, but also i have already come to terms with the fact that football is inherently evil and shd be outlawed

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:35 (nine years ago) link

well, yeah, there's always that

i'm totally cool with fans who are fine w/ the team being heels (the lagoon perspective), especially given the inherent outsized absurdity of american football which should naturally have heels and faces (and sort of does but not all the way), but i feel like a lot of the fanbase got carried away with the idea of the way and the system that kraft pushed to great success, and view the team as more noble and #american than 30 bald eagles flying at once

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link

its so crazy to me that ppl believe in stuff like that?

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:43 (nine years ago) link

tbf you can't expect too much from ppl made of straw

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link

lol yes im totally inventing those people, no way they exist

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

um tyranny of low expectations much

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:49 (nine years ago) link

the idea of #ways and shit like that used to be more of a baseball thing and still totally is a baseball thing for numerous teams, and tbf the pats are by no means the only NFL team to peddle such ideas on an organizational level! but it is done on such a massive scale for a lot of reasons

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:51 (nine years ago) link

i feel like a lot of the fanbase got carried away with the idea of the way and the system that kraft pushed to great success, and view the team as more noble and #american than 30 bald eagles flying at once

have 30 bald eagles flying at once ever intercepted a russell wilson pass at the goal line in the waning seconds of a super bowl? no they have not. case closed.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link

(cont. xp) plenty of which have to do with the marketability of brady and the obvious success/strategic genius of bill

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:52 (nine years ago) link

lol no only undrafted free agents who will probably be cut in training camp for obscurantist bill reasons or traded for a 7th round pick xp

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 13 May 2015 20:54 (nine years ago) link

i haven't read the report or basically anything about this but the belief that brady and belichick weren't 100% in on this seems pretty naive to me

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 May 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link

lag∞n otm, which you may have noticed is an anagram of tom

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:31 (eight years ago) link

one thing i feel like ppl dont appreciate enough in all this is how handsome and cool tom brady is

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:35 (eight years ago) link

brady is handsome in the way a man who knows for a fact that he is handsome is handsome

Aimless, Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link

anyway, whatever. pats won, no one deep down truly thinks that psi had anything to do with it, and presumably bb will give his inclination to run up the score even freer rein

~gronk flex~

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:45 (eight years ago) link

ffs this isn't complicated, the psychology of the average pats fan is that they are a person who loves tom brady, the way one would love a kind, generous, and decent relative.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:52 (eight years ago) link

pats fan reaction to this is literally how you would feel if someone wronged a member of your family

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link

i only feel that way when ppl make fun of his uggs

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 May 2015 00:55 (eight years ago) link

xp I get that part, obviously. what I don't get is people literally shouting conspiracy and they are not joking! ted wells doesn't have a grudge against touchdown tom, and goodell is literally a robert kraft employee

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:17 (eight years ago) link

and has been, more or less openly, since he became commissioner

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:17 (eight years ago) link

i think conspiracy is too strong but there is a cast of characters involved in this thing who strongly give the impression that the patriots hurt their feelings

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link

ffs this isn't complicated, the psychology of the average pats fan is that they are a person who loves tom brady

tru; as a steelers fan i have more experience in the semantics that separate quarterback from team/fandom

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 May 2015 01:27 (eight years ago) link

personally i think what's been happening all along is that the patriots prepared what you might call 'deflated' footballs (ie not measured exactly but targeted on the low end of the range and judged by feel not psi) and nobody cared including the officials who didn't adjust them because the refs and the league didn't care either
it's like aaron rodgers trying to sneak overinflated footballs past the refs
if you prepare them that way and the refs don't do anything to adjust them before the game because nobody, including the nfl, actually much cares, that's not breaking the rules and that's probably how it was for a long time

at some point another club decides to complain and/or the officials way overcompensate by putting a lot of air back in the pats footballs before a jets game. and brady is an asshole boss and yells at the equipment guy and looks up the rule and tells them to make sure the refs read the rule book and don't let this happen etc. brady didn't know anything more

i don't know why i've spent any mental energy on this other than i can't square kraft continuing to strongly defend brady plus brady insisting he didn't break the rules (but choosing his words carefully) with the idea that brady is guilty of what the wells report says. why would you back yourself into a corner over something this petty instead of just coming clean if you really did it? that doesn't make sense. so i tend to think brady didn't do the specific thing the wells report says, but generally had the equipment guys prepare 'deflated' footballs which usually got past the officials because no one cared - and explaining this complicated thing to the public is not going to help any

and i don't believe there's an anti-pats conspiracy (a conspiracy is too complicated) but i do think some people took the opportunity to deliberately leak damaging and inaccurate information to create a media firestorm during the runup to the super bowl and blow this thing way out of proportion. i also think goodell handled it incredibly poorly because if the nfl approach to the psi 'rule' up until that point was ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and the penalty for previous infractions ranged from 'ok guys knock it off' to a $25K fine, there's no way it merits a multi-million-dollar three-month forensic investigation

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, 14 May 2015 04:01 (eight years ago) link

i should quit paying attention to the whole thing but i am fascinated by the absurdity

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, 14 May 2015 04:12 (eight years ago) link

no way it doesn't get reduced on appeal

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 14 May 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link

to 1-2 games

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 14 May 2015 04:18 (eight years ago) link

p. good summary xp

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 May 2015 04:19 (eight years ago) link

i should quit paying attention to the whole thing but i am fascinated by the absurdity

the football fan's lament

DJP, Thursday, 14 May 2015 12:47 (eight years ago) link

what you might call 'deflated' footballs

tbh this is what i call balls when a person glossed "the deflator" takes custody of game certified balls and they later show up consistently below certification.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:30 (eight years ago) link

yeah the "consistently below certification" thing is really the rub tho since that's still entirely speculative based on the information available.

i don't have time to read this: http://wellsreportcontext.com/ but i am sure it is v good.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

omg

The report does not address whether one minute and 40 is consistent with the time that it takes a gentleman to enter a bathroom, relieve himself, wash his hands, and leave. In fact, it is.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

is the gentleman drying his hands after he washes them? that is crucial, and that isn't clear!

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link

yah it's pretty entertaining:

Mr. Jastremski would sometimes work out and bulk up — he is a slender guy and his goal was to get to 200 pounds. Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal: to lose weight. “Deflate” was a term they used to refer to losing weight.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:51 (eight years ago) link

i can't believe how thick everyone is about this word, they need to deflate.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

When the NFC Championship Game ended abruptly in overtime, someone in the Officials’ Locker Room sitting area said “we’re back on.” Mr. McNally then stood up, put the two bags of footballs on his shoulders, and proceeded past all of these NFL personnel and game officials (see pgs. 54-55) to the door of the Officials’ Locker Room sitting room (described in the report as a “large sitting room” — pg. 54). This was not some clandestine departure — it was in clear view of all those League officials. Once the footballs are taken to the field they are to be taken to the area adjacent to the replay booth. The outdoor security camera shows that is exactly what Mr. McNally did. Anyone actually concerned about the location of the game footballs could simply have checked that location. The security video shows Mr. Anderson coming out to the field and going there. Not surprisingly, he found Mr. McNally was there with the bags of footballs.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

i should quit paying attention to the whole thing but i am fascinated by the absurdity

yeah bingo, this whole thing has been massively entertaining if only because of how much ink has been spilled over a few missing psis

i haven't read the report or basically anything about this but the belief that brady and belichick weren't 100% in on this seems pretty naive to me

actually I would believe that Brady and those two other guys were the only people who knew. I don't think it's a conspiracy.

frogbs, Thursday, 14 May 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

that would still be a conspiracy between Brady and those two other guys, though

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 May 2015 16:10 (eight years ago) link

this is all Pete Carroll's fault, really

Mr. Murphy in the wine bar. (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 14 May 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

the pats cant be serious with this "weight loss" thing right

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 14 May 2015 16:21 (eight years ago) link

wait...who am i kidding, they totally can

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 14 May 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link

I am beside myself over here

DJP, Thursday, 14 May 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link

iced tea and cocoa, in the pats locker room

johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 May 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

tell me who's that a-writin'
Tom the ball deflator
tell me who's that a-writin'
Tom the ball deflator
tell me who's that a-writin'
Tom the ball deflator
let a little out before the game

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 14 May 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link

at this point i think the pats and brady are innocent and they should get their draft picks/$$ back and the suspension overturned and an apology

they're going to have a tough time though, because goodell and the league admitting they are wrong just doesn't happen, and because wells constructed a narrative and narrative is a powerful thing. he had to work pretty hard to do this by cherry picking text messages from the offseason and road games, deciding there was some scheme among these guys to trade memorabilia for sneakily tampering with footballs complete with evil mastermind Deflator nickname. brady was right not to turn over his phone or messages because no good would come of it - wells is already building a narrative and he's going to be able to take something out of context and use it against you.

i don't believe it because there's no real evidence the footballs were tampered with in the first place, plus two of these guys are not the brightest and texted about everything including trying to deal in memorabilia and unauthorized sales of season tickets, on company owned phones, and there's still not much for wells to work with. sure, after jan 2015 we live in a world where .5 psi in footballs is an international news story worthy of all this time and attention, but prior to this, what i can't get past is that nobody really cared including the league and its officials. if these two equipment guys had a scheme why wouldn't there be really obvious texts saying what they were doing? and why would you go to all the trouble of sneaking around and expect compensation when all you'd have to actually do is be like 'dude let some air out of the footballs ok' because it wasn't a thing to anyone - you would probably just do it on the sideline in plain sight because nbd

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Friday, 15 May 2015 12:47 (eight years ago) link

I don't think it's possible to stress enough that goodell does not want to go after his paymaster. he does not want to tarnish the league's most marketable face. and the fact that this is the issue where his royal dipshit the commish has to flex muscles is kind of hideous given recent domestic violence issues, but it's gonna happen. the penalties may be halved but they will not disappear completely

slothroprhymes, Friday, 15 May 2015 13:25 (eight years ago) link

it doesn't ultimately tarnish the many wins, aside from in some people's minds the AFC championship, and honestly as we've all said they would've won that game regardless. imo they should chuckle as they write the check for the fine, suffer the (likely to be reduced) consequences and go back to what should be the most important thing, winning football games. kraft is making it seem as if the brand is more important than a superb owl win by bothering with this counterattack.

slothroprhymes, Friday, 15 May 2015 13:29 (eight years ago) link

brady suspended for plucking a superb owl

exactly it was already superb he didn't need to fuck with it

slothroprhymes, Friday, 15 May 2015 13:57 (eight years ago) link

"p.s. ur suspended lol"

50 yrs feels like the rt amt of time, end football after this season imo

johnny crunch, Friday, 15 May 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

wrap it up folks

lag∞n, Friday, 15 May 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

okay lol

DJP, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 17:16 (eight years ago) link

could be a bid by the robber baron kraft to maybe get a reduced suspension for st. tom as a quid pro quo but if it's not, like if he's just giving up, wtf was that barstool sports-level website bullshit about lol

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link

i think with the way the league is set up, there are few/no options for kraft here. you really can't sue the league

brady is different of course and can still appeal and then go to court.. greg bedard tweeted that this didn't include any deal on brady's suspension but that's what they say.. i have to think they'll cut it down at least

still think the whole thing is garbage btw and completely unjustified

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 17:59 (eight years ago) link

you /can/ remain a fan of the team and accept the notion that idk just maybe they sorta did a dumb thing that was against the rules, you know, and also acknowledge that maybe some of those rules are overly stiff and that league punishments are on a similarly arbitrarily dictated scale...

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:06 (eight years ago) link

wtf was that barstool sports-level website bullshit about lol

my theory is that kraft and co figured out that everyone had already chosen sides and wasn't going to change their minds--that site was for fans and supporters pretty much.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

i really don't think they did it. too many things don't add up to me - the scientific evidence not proving any tampering, the idea that there was a scheme to have these guys sneakily go to all the trouble to let out a really insignificant amount of air, the idea that you'd need to have a scheme when it was a minor issue in the rulebook, the idea that before the AFC title game a guy would duck into a bathroom and hastily tamper with 12 footballs in a bag in 90 seconds (not worth the risk of effing it up)..

But aside from my opinions on the report, I also don't think they did it because it doesn't make sense that kraft and belichick would have been so insistent that there was no wrongdoing, repeatedly, and kraft/the organization would have continued to state this even after the investigation report was released and push it as far as releasing that whole response and emails and everything. Also because the Pats beat reporters I've been reading for like 8-10 years, who've been covering the team for longer than that, were also quite skeptical and had never had any reason to think brady had lied to them, which was the same thing kraft said - brady had never lied to him. It doesn't make sense to me that these people would lie and insist they did nothing wrong over this if it were true. When the spygate thing happened the pats admitted exactly what they did.

i kind of feel like the whole thing can be attributed to a failure of the nfl, leaking incorrect information about the football psi and the investigation early on.. once they screwed that up and didn't correct the record and had it blow up into a media firestorm, somebody had to be guilty. this shouldn't happen, but it did. i guess other teams and players have found this out before with goodell as commissioner, that the process is driven by media and public perception and is pretty unfair and the penalties are arbitrary with little/no options for appeal, and the agreements in place keep it that way and the owners need to look in the mirror if they have a problem with it because they voted for it (and this is what kraft gets for backing goodell all this time)

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:39 (eight years ago) link

i think this whole thing is seriously overinflated, and i really don't care if they, or any other team, did this, or still do this.

but...

t doesn't make sense that kraft and belichick would have been so insistent that there was no wrongdoing, repeatedly, and kraft/the organization would have continued to state this even after the investigation report was released

seriously?

the Pats beat reporters I've been reading for like 8-10 years, who've been covering the team for longer than that, were also quite skeptical and had never had any reason to think brady had lied to them

and, um, seriously?

"i know he was convicted, your honor, but he still says he didn't do it. and he never, ever lies. nope, not him. he has never lied to anybody about anything. he doesn't even lie about snap counts at the line of scrimmage. surely if he had cheated, he would have told you he cheated, because that's the kind of awesome guy that he is. so i am sure you will see fit to dismiss all charges, even though he has already been convicted. thank you, your honor."

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

the pats counterscientist for their anti wells report thing was a guy working on a project bankrolled by kraft, bought and paid for, just like kraft thought goodell was bought and paid for (which for a long time he was, I mean he destroyed the spygate tapes and while I don't think square was that big a deal one expects you'd keep the evidence for posterity)

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 00:06 (eight years ago) link

*dont think spygate was

fuckin phones

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 00:07 (eight years ago) link

if kraft wanted to go full on against the NFL he would have, but it would require a heel-turn away from the league party line, which kraft clearly is just not prepared or not willing to take. he ain't bout that al davis life, no sirree. corporate ayn-randian exceptionalists usually are not.

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 00:10 (eight years ago) link

um spygate was def fuckin phones

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 00:11 (eight years ago) link

a somewhat overblown scandal and an iphone procreating is def a scary thought

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 00:19 (eight years ago) link

xpost -- as for am i serious -- yeah sure am. it doesn't square to me that brady would look at the coach and owner of the team where he's played his entire professional career, and lie to their faces over something like this. it's not worth it. being a hyper competitive, short tempered, kind of obnoxious jerk on the field who yells at guys and complains to the refs is fine, but straight up lying to the coach and owner does not seem in character whatsoever. i could be wrong but to change my mind there would need to be a smoking gun or for brady to personally admit he did something

only thing i could speculate is maybe 1) outside the specific scope of the investigation (tampering in the AFC title game) and unknown to brady, there was something going on with the preparation of footballs in the past that the pats don't want revealed or 2) some tampering was done on some occasions in the past (but not in the AFC title game) based on a very narrow reading of the rules under which they thought it was acceptable, which it would do no good to explain today because the public wouldn't believe you.

one of the NE beat reporters (curran maybe?) mentioned recently that not all the spygate tapes were not destroyed, only some of them, and that they were incredibly boring

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 00:23 (eight years ago) link

is it conceivable to you that a successful capitalist businessman who wears ugly button-down shirts like kraft would lie? i am just guessing here, but i am going to guess that successful capitalist businessmen in many fields lie quite routinely as part of their day-to-day duties.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 00:28 (eight years ago) link

i'm too focused on the condescension to be able to remember whether or not, in my life, it has ever occurred to me that a business guy might lie

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 01:31 (eight years ago) link

eh forget about it. not worth it

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/sanchez31.gif

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Wednesday, 20 May 2015 01:35 (eight years ago) link

i'm too focused on the condescension to be able to remember whether or not, in my life, it has ever occurred to me that a business guy might lie

― seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, May 19, 2015 9:31 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/ondGXtr.gif

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 03:54 (eight years ago) link

butt fumble heals all wounds, repairs all relationships

DJP, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link

truly the greatest of fumbles

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:55 (eight years ago) link

much like this is the greatest of passes:

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Tim-Tebow-Hit-in-Head-with-Pass.gif

DJP, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

amen

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

daria, what do you think those text messages were about then? I think the punishment is ridiculous (especially the draft pick part of it) but I dunno, it seems really clear that something shady was going on

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:04 (eight years ago) link

butt fumble might not have been a fumble at all if mark sanchez had the good sense to use a deflated football. then it would just have been a butt.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:20 (eight years ago) link

but... butt

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 May 2015 17:28 (eight years ago) link

I think the questions I'm curious about is how much longer does Brady go and when he goes will Bill head out too. SF was able to keep a streak of winning going across three head coaches until it finally fell apart.

earlnash, Sunday, 24 May 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link

“My drink is usually vodka with water because it gets you hydrated and drunk at the same time,” he explains after the sommelier has departed. “I never drink wine. There’s only one wine I like, but I forget what it’s called. It tastes like Sprite.”

-- gronk

mookieproof, Monday, 1 June 2015 17:51 (eight years ago) link

hell yea gronk

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2015 22:01 (eight years ago) link

lol his reaction to his dad getting emo

lag∞n, Monday, 1 June 2015 22:06 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/605756951994077184

goole, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:29 (eight years ago) link

I feel very conflicted about that tweet...

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:31 (eight years ago) link

lol is he fuckin serious

dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

i think he made a joke, and you know good for him

lag∞n, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:34 (eight years ago) link

could be, could also be morbs taking control of cruz's twitter account

dellevadova depression beard (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:43 (eight years ago) link

Brian David Stockman ‏@Carlisleboy 3h3 hours ago
@tedcruz If It was #Killary He'd be Dead, Like Vince #Foster and the Lybian #Benghazi Ambassador and Agents And anyone who gets in her way

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 June 2015 19:51 (eight years ago) link

oh hell yes this is like a dream come true

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 18:39 (eight years ago) link

otm what will steve make of these goobers

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

how will steve work his book into conversation with the gronk clan

lag∞n, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 18:48 (eight years ago) link

gronk to be new face of delightful.com

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 18:49 (eight years ago) link

http://www.gronkspartyship.com/

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 9 June 2015 23:47 (eight years ago) link

didn't the vikings get in trouble for that

mookieproof, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 23:53 (eight years ago) link

o m g

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 June 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link

buying my ticket now

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Wednesday, 10 June 2015 00:50 (eight years ago) link

challop-ed

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 17 June 2015 15:42 (eight years ago) link

the pats stuff is really ancillary, the lede here is which if either of those bedrooms is slash's

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 25 June 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/13265711/veteran-ol-dan-connolly-new-england-patriots-retires

big dan connolly decides to retire instead of sign for tampa. presumably he received a desperate admiral ackbar text from logan mankins

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 16 July 2015 12:42 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=222IkMwrIpE

call all destroyer, Thursday, 16 July 2015 13:05 (eight years ago) link

as churlish as it may be to not just enjoy the greatest kick return of all time i can't help but feel that that not going for a td is basically humanity's greatest crime. if i were a benevolent superintelligent alien monitoring earth transmissions and saw connolly get dragged down on the 5 there i would be like nope and turn my space car around.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 16 July 2015 13:17 (eight years ago) link

lol

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 19:50 (eight years ago) link

hate goodell as much as anyone but i've got a tough time feeling sorry for brady

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

goodell: brady trashed cell phone

100% brady recycled his phone and SIM when upgrading

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:03 (eight years ago) link

not that it matters. fuck goodell for demanding his phone. fuck goodell.

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:06 (eight years ago) link

asking for his phone seems like a reasonable measure when conducting an investigation

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:07 (eight years ago) link

Would you hand over your personal phone to your boss?

Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 21:51 (eight years ago) link

if i thought it would exonerate me, maybe

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 22:07 (eight years ago) link

i mean goodell is a joke and his decision-making process is probably a sham, and i LIKE brady, but he obviously did it so i'm not too torn up about it

usic ally (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 22:14 (eight years ago) link

I mean, I'd try not to hand over my phone too but I also know everyone would be all "aha that proves guilt" and I'd be like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFk2_5RkwlA

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 28 July 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/08/29/article-0-1B83791F000005DC-809_638x448.jpg

neat picture of robert kraft at today's press conf

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:51 (eight years ago) link

neat picture of robert kraft at today's press conf

Yep. Summary: Kraft said it was a mistake to accept the deal and that he should’ve never trust the NFL.

It was also reported that phone records were handed over (i.e. the destroy phone was a red herring and the NFL is full of shit). Go figure.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

so kraft accepted the team penalties, expected a quid pro from the league, and then watched goodell cave to other owners.

basically goodell is so inept and rudderless he can't even manage to pull off a back-channel deal correctly.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:59 (eight years ago) link

show of hands: does anybody really believe brady didn't have anything to do with underinflating footballs?

usic ally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:00 (eight years ago) link

i'm genuinely asking

usic ally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

i do not believe footballs were underinflated?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link

admittedly i haven't really read a lot about the situation -- the wells report, the rebuttals -- i just find it very plausible that the pats would bend the rules

usic ally (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

great contribution k3v, thanks for stopping by

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:05 (eight years ago) link

the basic outline of my belief is that we have absolutely no idea what the pressure of the footballs was at gametime vs. the colts. i believe the most brady would have done at any point is instruct the equipment guys to make sure the balls were at the low end of the allowable range. it is possible that to do this they tampered with the balls after the final inspection, and it is also possible that they did not.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

admittedly i haven't really read a lot about the situation -- the wells report, the rebuttals -- i just find it very plausible that the pats would bend the rules

LOL. OK.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

fwiw it is entirely plausible imo that the pats (or any team) would bend the rules and could well be subject to the fine laid out in the game handbook which iirc is $25K.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:09 (eight years ago) link

the basic outline of my belief is that we have absolutely no idea what the pressure of the footballs was at gametime vs. the colts. i believe the most brady would have done at any point is instruct the equipment guys to make sure the balls were at the low end of the allowable range. it is possible that to do this they tampered with the balls after the final inspection, and it is also possible that they did not.

OTM.

FWIW: a friend who was a D1 QB made this exact claim on Facebook. Everyone asks for the ball to be pressurized to the very bottom of the range.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link

He also claimed college refs routinely checked the pressure of the ball.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:11 (eight years ago) link

fwiw it is entirely plausible imo that the pats (or any team) would bend the rules and could well be subject to the fine laid out in the game handbook which iirc is $25K.

OTM, too.

Allen (etaeoe), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

yeah aaron rodgers was talking about that, how most qb's like it at the bottom of the range but he actually likes the ball overinflated a little. my guess is brady was an asshole about how he wanted his balls and maybe the staff got overzealous or more likely just sloppy. after all the leaks it turned out only one ball was outside the parameters and considering everything else w/ the investigation and who's handling it i'd be skeptical of even that. don't blame brady for not turning over his phone, goodell' office leaks like crazy and has a tamed press to do it's bidding (espn was ranting yesterday about how disgraceful it was brady was taking the nfl to court) and goodell refused to turn over his phone to the guy he hand picked to investigate his handling of the ray rice incident.

balls, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:22 (eight years ago) link

the funniest part of this yesterday was watching local news work themselves into an apoplexy over this and then say "It's a shame the NFL is overshadowing Pedro's day with this"

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

maybe the staff got overzealous or more likely just sloppy

hey this is a pro level organization. _if_ the balls were deflated below spec by the deflator, it's because brady told them to do it, and they knew if they fucked it up they would lose their bullshit volunteer vanity nfl gigs.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:43 (eight years ago) link

they would not likely fuck up brady's instructions for ball pressure, he was on them like stink on shit, and that is why they talked so much crap about him behind his back.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:44 (eight years ago) link

and brady is not being an asshole to them, he is PRO, and knows how he needs his equipment to feel. for the same reason a pro acquaintance of mine makes and sells a tire pressure gauge accurate to .5 psi (for $150 per!). for him, once he dials in a course, the difference between 21 psi and 22 psi is apparent to him, and to other elite guys. equipment actually matters, no matter how clowny the lackeys are who are responsible.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

you are really overestimating the caliber of person that lugs the balls to the field on gameday.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

i believe they were intentionally underinflated, but none of my points here really go to whether they were or not- only that the balls were in a condition specified by brady.

xpost

then the patriots need to step their games up. you see how absurd that statement looks, right?

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link

eh this is a good time to reinstate my rule that i don't discuss the specifics of this story

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link

after all the leaks it turned out only one ball was outside the parameters

wasn't it 11 out of 12? or did I miss something?

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

Hunt3r, you really seem to have an agenda here. as an aside, with your perspective as a fan of afc playoff also-rans the denver broncos, what do you think might've motivated fellow playoff failures the indianapolis colts and the baltimore ravens to set this shitstorm in motion for the patriots?

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:56 (eight years ago) link

frogbs, subsequent review has shown that maybe 1, probably none of the balls were unreasonably under the the inflation range. if you're interested in the actual truth, the data is too garbage to have any confidence either way. if you're interested in what can be proven, it doesn't look great for the nfl.

there is a circumstantial case for the balls being tampered with after the officials' inspection. i think you can believe what you want on that. there is no kind of case that the balls were under the legal inflation range. could the balls have been deflated but still within range? some of the other details actually corroborate that possibility. all in all tho, it is a super thin basis for the nfl to go ham on, however you slice it.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:07 (eight years ago) link

there is no kind of case that the balls were under the legal inflation - i should qualify this with demonstrably or similar

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:08 (eight years ago) link

no the league leaked 11 of 12 during super bowl week and then iirc the actual report said 'or just one' and it may have been one the league subbed out. despite hunter's protestations that these guys are pros and god knows professional sports organizations tend to favor science over their guts or experience or what feels right i'm skeptical that these guys underinflate these balls w/ any kind of calibration beyond 'eh that should do it'. based on the ballboys texts and that at most 11 of 12 balls had the same psi i feel comfortable w/ that. in any case i don't think brady and greg hardy deserve the same suspension.

balls, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:09 (eight years ago) link

they probably did /something/ but by now there's no possible excuse for this to still be a thing, the penalties should've been reduced bc they were absurd

that said, it's pretty amusing to see a corrupt robber-baron turned team owner more or less publicly buy a clearly corrupt/inept NFL commissioner nearly a decade ago and then /completely/ publicly complain that he's corrupt

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link

because he basically had to punish yr team w/ an excessive ruling so it would look briefly like he wasn't yr toady

extremely lag∞n postings voice (slothroprhymes), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:14 (eight years ago) link

dude i don't recall what beefs exist between those teams other than brady talking some rulebook-reading shit at his presser, which was hilarious imo. whether that kicked off this whole thing i dunno, don't really care.

xpost

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

I find it hard to believe that Brady wasn't doing something that at least was skirting the rules a bit, but it's no outrage because teams do this kind of thing all the time across every sport. Pitchers are constantly scuffing balls, NBA and soccer players are flopping to draw fouls, baseball teams are stealing signs or finding ways to spy on each other, it happens, it gets punished, but the idea of losing 1/4th of the season AND a draft pick AND a million bucks is so insanely absurd that I can't help but love how it's blown up on the NFL

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:39 (eight years ago) link

yeah as far as 'cheating' goes this is definitely more in line w/ vaseline on the glove or flopping than something like the niners or twolves salary cap shenanigans. then again so is pumping in crowd noise (except that's also by far stupider)(esp if it's already clearly a lost season) and the nfl cracks down on that so this isn't out of line w/ the nfl is incredibly stupid and random when it comes to discipline. i tried to quit this sport last fall (falcons sucked so should've been easy) but by spring was so far back in i was reading mock drafts. love the game but everything surrounding it is so toxic. seriously guys give hoops a chance. i say this as a guy who swore for years the nba would never be as good as it was w/ bird/magic/young jordan - basketball has never been better than it is right now.

balls, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:48 (eight years ago) link

yeah I think I need to watch a lot more basketball this season

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:53 (eight years ago) link

if I could watch more live west coast nba I def would

im telling myself ill still watch college ftball but way less nfl this yr, I even think the sport at the nfl level is sorta boring now and too random as far as game outcomes

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

i like basketball but there's too many games. idk why that is such a barrier for me but i can't get invested in individual games when i try and can't get past just being a playoff watcher. also, the learning curve is steep, i already knew about football since a kid but i knew nothing at all about basketball prior to rocking up here.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

college sports idk, giant cultural barrier, cannot contemplate taking seriously

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

thing about football is, it's great. i do rue all of the shit that sucks about it tho.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 17:12 (eight years ago) link

ok i cannot resist b/c this is the first time i saw these...here are two footnotes from the wells report:

Footnote 11 page 35
The guidelines stated that: “Prior to each game, a team‟s equipment manager will prepare 12 footballs to be used for non-kicking downs. The footballs will have the prior approval of the team‟s quarterback, who can briefly test them the preceding week, but the balls cannot be used during midweek or pregame practice sessions. These footballs will be delivered to the officials‟ locker room two hours and 15 minutes prior to game time. The Referee will insure that they are properly inflated and give final approval for their use. Game balls approved for a previous game can be submitted, provided they meet the standards of a new ball. The home team will prepare another 12 balls in the event of inclement weather or other reasons.” Under the current guidelines, a referee also may reject footballs in the course of a game if he determines that they are in “unsatisfactory condition.”


Footnote 21 page 41
During our investigation, we also obtained information concerning the football preparation process used by the Colts. Colts personnel informed us that, like the Patriots, they take new footballs and rub them with a wet or warm towel to remove the outer preservative, followed by brushing with the same brushes provided by Wilson. Footballs are then used during practice, with the expectation that normal wear and tear on the footballs, and their interaction with players‟ sweat, will help break in the balls. Sean Sullivan, the Colts Equipment Manager, explained that, in his view, the best way to soften the leather is for the footballs to interact with sweat during practice and then get baked in the sun. The Colts repeat the brushing and baking process, and continue to practice with the footballs as they are broken in, until they reach a certain point, when they will be set aside for potential game use. The footballs will be inflated to a pressure between 12.9 and 13.05 psi prior to being inspected by Colts quarterback Andrew Luck, who typically selects his game balls two days before each game. The designated balls are placed into ball bags and kept locked in the Colts equipment room until their pressure is checked again shortly before being delivered to the game officials.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 19:58 (eight years ago) link

that'll be a 1st round pick, sorry guys

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link

can't spell "parity" without patrito(y)

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

I think it's entirely possible that Brady was involved. I don't think the Wells Report proved it whatsoever (he "probably" did it, not good enough). as much as it benefits my Fins to have him out four games, as a fan of the game, it gives me a bad taste for this arbitrary punishment for something so silly (that they didn't even prove).

bah....replace Goodell with Kato Kaelin

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 22:42 (eight years ago) link

goodell: brady trashed cell phone

100% brady recycled his phone and SIM when upgrading

― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, July 28, 2015 5:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nfl sez it was the day-of wells coming to investigate that he destroyed it

which, still, he prob just had sum good nudez he didn't want the nfl to leak

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 23:48 (eight years ago) link

had to protect his buddy

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Thursday, 30 July 2015 04:35 (eight years ago) link

well he didn't have to shave his buddy

let's not get too excited w/ the ouches (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 30 July 2015 04:37 (eight years ago) link

Subject: RE: Winter Pool Cover
From: Tom Brady
Date: Wed, October 22, 2014 3:52 pm
To: Ben Rawitz

What kind of morons don’t have white cover. Can we check with another company

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link

From the salon article polyphonic linked:

"The digital trail our phones leave behind long outlive the physical device itself, and the league could have potentially tracked down the information in a number of ways..."

The article fails to mention what those "number of ways" would be, but rather mentions a number of places the data might be stored, which is different, because the NFL is not a law enforcement agency and has no subpoena power. So I'm not sure whether they would have any legal means to acquire such data, even though it would undoubtedly still be stored somewhere.

Aimless, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 18:22 (eight years ago) link

the point is that the destruction of the phone is not relevant to them getting that data.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 18:26 (eight years ago) link

Which the article doesn't actually establish. If the phone, with data, had been surrendered for inspection, the data would certainly have been placed in the NFL's possession. The bare fact that the data still exists doesn't prove the NFL could access it now by any means in their power.

Aimless, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:10 (eight years ago) link

brady needs to allow the nfl access to the data or be compelled to do so, regardless of where it's stored.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link

Brady can reasonably say that he is not in possession of the data. He doesn't control the servers where it would now be stored. Anyway, the NFL decided it had enough evidence to draw a conclusion without the phone data.

Now, if Brady were to sue in court over the suspension, perhaps the NFL could pursue the phone data through discovery. So far, Brady has only pursued his appeal under the collective bargaining agreement, as far as I know.

Aimless, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 19:19 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/_JakeRussell/status/630038112257867776

feelings

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 8 August 2015 16:29 (eight years ago) link

oh lol, image tagged a twitter link, not bad

https://twitter.com/_JakeRussell/status/630038112257867776

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 8 August 2015 16:30 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/PPVSRB

some good quotes here. judge seems to believe it is likely that deflation occurred (no mention of allowed range tho) and that brady was at least aware of it. skeptical of anything more than that, in particular that the nfl has any actual evidence of brady's involvement or of any 'conspiracy'. nfl response shows they have literally nothing: we think deflation occurred, brady is qb, QED.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:08 (eight years ago) link

nflpa lawyer seems to be a dickhead tho, which could swing the case.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:11 (eight years ago) link

nfl response shows they have literally nothing

I think its more accurate to say that the nfl has circumstantial evidence, but no direct evidence. Given what has been established as fact, one may deduce a limited number of scenarios that fit those facts. A few of those scenarios exculpate Brady, but most would not.

This kind of reasoning would not be sufficient in a criminal trial, but the NFL isn't putting Brady in prison, either. afaics, they are claiming only that a preponderance of the evidence supports their conclusion and that's good enough.

The only real question here is whether the league's actions are allowed under the collective bargaining agreement. If they are allowed, then the 4-game suspension sticks. If not, then he plays.

Aimless, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:23 (eight years ago) link

surprisingly little on process tho, really just allowing the sides to restate their respective cases, which for the nfl is just that cba = rog can do what he wants, which hasn't worked before but doesn't mean it won't work now.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:30 (eight years ago) link

as far as "Given what has been established as fact" and "preponderance of the evidence" go, i guess you have access to some info the rest of us don't

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CMOYcQ4WoAA2MT-.jpg

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:42 (eight years ago) link

what is Robert durst doing there

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:50 (eight years ago) link

I think Brady is going to walk.

earlnash, Friday, 14 August 2015 01:26 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwSlEvG0ngo

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 August 2015 02:00 (eight years ago) link

CHILLS

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 August 2015 03:03 (eight years ago) link

also that first cut of patricia is hilarious

call all destroyer, Friday, 14 August 2015 03:05 (eight years ago) link

Right?

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 August 2015 03:08 (eight years ago) link

latest brady judge quotes make it clear there is no way if he is forced to a ruling that the suspension will stand, even if you allow for some rhetoric with him trying to push the nfl towards settlement.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

i will be sad when this is resolved whatever the outcome because it has been at least a little distraction from the miserable reality that the pats lost two gdamn draft picks over this weak shit

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 19 August 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

http://www.stradleylaw.com/bob-mcnair-deflategate-comments/

imo owners would be advised to keep this whole thing at arms length to avoid getting shit on their sports coat by association. for some i'm sure it is hard to suppress their glee at the stitch up.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 2 September 2015 17:21 (eight years ago) link

brady freed

for now at least

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:18 (eight years ago) link

lol

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:19 (eight years ago) link

i cant see how it would matter even if the league did appeal, which, like...god just let this die

that said it does allow the pats to soldier on like the automatons of corporate nobility kraft wants them to be, was kinda hoping this would make them into truly vicious heels who might actually be entertaining as a result

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:32 (eight years ago) link

truly vicious heels who might actually be entertaining

wait, they aren't?

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

looking at comments from pats fans and can see cogs slowly but slowly turning as they realize that no the draft picks aren't coming back and kraft fucked them over by laying down on the team punishment

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:45 (eight years ago) link

[pounds sam adams]

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link

canyon between brady appealing as a player and the team fighting their part of course but the angry mob won't pick up on that

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link

xps mook i dunno, they're a team whose slogan last year was "do your job," that's pretty neutered and corporate imo, kraft's corrupt oligarch status is villainous but in the same banal fashion

like this is an absurd sport, it deserves more comic book villains in its repertoire, resurrect al davis imo

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link

[pounds sam adams]

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:47 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha damn man its early in colorado, hope you have the day off

slothroprhymes, Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:54 (eight years ago) link

love itttt

usic ally (k3vin k.), Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

I don't like the Pats but I'm pretty happy about this really

frogbs, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:02 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN_LlrtWIAEsESW.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:03 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN_IHa_XAAAlGKU.png

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:16 (eight years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link

[pounds sam adams]

― lag∞n, Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:47 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

haha damn man its early in colorado, hope you have the day off

― slothroprhymes, Thursday, September 3, 2015 10:54 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

http://i.imgur.com/KbJvGvw.jpg

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 September 2015 15:45 (eight years ago) link

lol what a great day.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 September 2015 17:52 (eight years ago) link

bill belichick just gave the most cheerful interview i've ever seen him give

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:14 (eight years ago) link

my Dolphins fan friends are treating this verdict like the Casey Anthony trial. idgi. this was the right decision all around.

You can't basically let the Vikings and Panthers do something similar and be all like "aight knock it the fuck off" and nothing more, then get advance warning about the Patriots do it and decide to ensnare them in a sting operation. Not to mention that no matter the suspicions, that Wells Report didn't prove a damn thing.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link

any legal experts wanna weigh in on the likelihood of the ruling being reversed on appeal?

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link

from what i've read the 2nd circuit is considered highly competent and is unlikely to overturn a reasonable ruling.

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 September 2015 01:54 (eight years ago) link

feeling deflated by this turn of events :'-(

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 4 September 2015 02:52 (eight years ago) link

altho it makes goodell look dumb so yay i guess

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 4 September 2015 02:53 (eight years ago) link

Goodell's been an unmitigated disaster, part of me wonders how well Tagliabue would have fared in this day and age. he definitely was too soft on discipline, Goodell's largely overcorrected but then just when you think he's just a stern disciplinarian that gets a little overzealous, he completely whiffs on the Ray Rice incident.

he didn't create most of the problems the league has now but he sure as shit hasn't really improved them either.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 03:15 (eight years ago) link

I'd love to hear what kind of smack Tagliabue is talking about Goodell when he thinks no one will repeat what he's saying.

Aimless, Friday, 4 September 2015 03:22 (eight years ago) link

"really bad kisser"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 03:27 (eight years ago) link

lol massachusetts is sometimes the best kind of assholes http://deadspin.com/patriots-planned-to-raise-a-tom-brady-banner-if-brady-w-1728717380

lag∞n, Friday, 4 September 2015 14:36 (eight years ago) link

i found this funny when it happened, i find it funny that they upheld it, i find it funny that they struck it down. all this shit is funny.

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 September 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link

wonder if Goodell is gonna pull a Bill Pullman in ID4 and strap on a helmet and try to take him down...ON the field!

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:29 (eight years ago) link

settle it via bareknuckle brawl imo

slothroprhymes, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

but it should be between kraft and goodell

slothroprhymes, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link

"And I did what I had to do to win! But somebody wouldn't let us win!"

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 20:52 (eight years ago) link

any legal experts wanna weigh in on the likelihood of the ruling being reversed on appeal?

― Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, September 4, 2015 1:22 AM (21 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Im not lawyer but basic access to evidence and witnesses is the backbone of our legal system and rog didnt think it applied in his kangaroo court

panettone for the painfully alone (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 4 September 2015 23:16 (eight years ago) link

it was def a farce of a 'trial' in the NFL, but some have said (and I don't know how accurate they are) that it seems to be a right afforded to him by the CBA and that it's weird that it got overturned. mostly why I'm curious.

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 23:31 (eight years ago) link

the ruling was based on lack of notice of punishment, lack of access to witnesses, and lack of equal access to information, all of which have fuck all to do with rog's rights under integrity of the game.

call all destroyer, Friday, 4 September 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link

aight cool. I don't want it to be overturned, not just cos I feel it's the right decision, but cos I love watching Goodell resemble a beleaguered school principal more and more each day

Hammer Smashed Bagels, Friday, 4 September 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

literally no new information in there afaict

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 15:37 (eight years ago) link

Included are several damaging new allegations, including that the Patriots actually had people break into locker rooms and hotels to steal play sheets in addition to other more general spy work.

There are plenty of candidates to choose from, but the biggest headline from the piece might just be the belief that DeflateGate was what one owner described as a “makeup call” for Roger Goodell and the NFL badly botching SpyGate and actively covering up just how bad it was in the face of a congressional investigation.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link

information, not speculation

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:26 (eight years ago) link

Michael McCann @McCannSportsLaw
Tom Brady confirms @realDonaldTrump's "Make America Great America" hat was in his locker, says he's good friend & has done "amazing" things.

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link

gross if true

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

lol

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:48 (eight years ago) link

finally, something we can appropriately villainize the patriots for

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 17:49 (eight years ago) link

lol so apparently on espn this morning goodell vehemently denied that spygate had any impact on their decisions re: deflategate and last week the nfl told a judge the reason they came down so hard on the pats for deflategate was because of spygate

balls, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:08 (eight years ago) link

Did the NFL feed spygate details to ESPN as a response to their humiliation over deflategate?

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:15 (eight years ago) link

yeah there's speculation about that too. i'm skeptical just because it's van natta and i'd guess this story has been in the works awhile. don van natta's about as far from a league mouthpiece as you can be and work for espn.

balls, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:24 (eight years ago) link

don van natta's about as far from a league mouthpiece as you can be and work for espn

yea, thats the main reason i bothered to read the whole thing bc otherwise it would reek of nothing but league counterattack. tbf that is prob still an element to some extent, no doubt, but van natta's a really good reporter and wouldnt have published this w/o being pretty confident of his shit's veracity

does any of it ultimately matter at this point? not entirely sure.

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:39 (eight years ago) link

we can all agree tho that the bradyman needs to never speak about politics in public ever again

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:40 (eight years ago) link

xp but i mean there's nothing to believe in the veracity of

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

like every example is "some team suspected this but there was no proof"

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 September 2015 20:59 (eight years ago) link

actually the make america great again hats are extremely tight

lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 01:29 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/Xqh9iLq.png

heh

lag∞n, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 01:32 (eight years ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 02:19 (eight years ago) link

Genuinely the first thing Belichick has said that makes me like him

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 03:47 (eight years ago) link

'I don't Twitter, I don't MyFace, I don't Yearbook' - 2011

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 12:47 (eight years ago) link

xp lol no love for "I've handled dozens of balls?"

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 12:59 (eight years ago) link

I saved all of those lols for Brady

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Wednesday, 9 September 2015 13:49 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPEydPfUcAAQfKK.jpg

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 September 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

maybe Trump could take the fall for spygate?

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Thursday, 17 September 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

mookie you just peeled my brain back

goole, Thursday, 17 September 2015 16:58 (eight years ago) link

brady tryna throw us off the scent of the truth, a likely story buddy http://mashable.com/2015/09/28/tom-brady-donald-trump/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link#8wX1d3.wXkql

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

complete with groans about teh clicks!

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:10 (eight years ago) link

"I don’t even know what the issues are. I haven’t paid attention to politics in a long time. It’s actually not something that I really even enjoy. It’s way off my radar.”

Tom Brady!

Meta Forksclove-Liebeskind (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 29 September 2015 15:12 (eight years ago) link

When you're rich as fuck, you get to not know what the issues are.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

wow cant believe this quarterback doesnt live up to my political standards im libel to tweet

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

yeah if i'm a pro qb and i'm married to a victoria's secret model my guess is i don't give a fuuuuuck about much else

balls, Tuesday, 29 September 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link

I'm more amused by him thinking he needed to equivocate about it than anything else, but then again toeing the kraft line of #theway does not exactly allow for "next question"

slothroprhymes, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 00:21 (eight years ago) link

pretty sure the nfl does not allow the use of 'radar' wtf

mookieproof, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 01:53 (eight years ago) link

deadspin made a blog post just for this getty photo from sunday's game and i agree it is pretty damn striking
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VTga4BKI--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/1470929160405761858.jpg

slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 13 October 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

solder out for the season. was poor against cowboys while he was in but sounds like that may be related. bummer.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link

more amazing photos from sunday's game

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:05 (eight years ago) link

so cool

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 19:45 (eight years ago) link

Tony Romo didn't play in Sunday's Cowboys-Patriots game, but he had a message for New England QB Tom Brady regardless: "See you at the title game in February." Romo's comments, made during the postgame handshake, were caught by a mike on Showtime's "Inside the NFL."

http://a4.espncdn.com/combiner/i?img=%2Fmedia%2Fgettyphoto%2F2015%2F10%2F11%2F492301740.jpg&w=640

nomar, Wednesday, 14 October 2015 20:58 (eight years ago) link

That's cool, maybe Brady can hook him up with some tickets

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Wednesday, 14 October 2015 21:23 (eight years ago) link

tarell brown on IR, another player lost at a thin position

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 17 October 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link

feel like the perfect end to the patriots antihero storyline will be when brady gets caught juicing after the they go 19-0 this season

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link

that would make for a headline or two. was reflecting on this recently, right now the legacy of the belichick pats is going to hold up just fine because the "cheating" scandals have been such overblown nothing but the consequence of all that is if they are caught doing anything legitimately fucked up cheaty then the whole edifice will immediately crumble to dust.

pats are bookie favourites for the rest of their reg season games but they will slip up somewhere, especially with the injury problems. i can see them locked for a bye at 13-1 and losing those last two road division games. who that first loss is to idk, as long as it's not the fucking giants.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link

obvs prob they will prob lose some games but the sched is p soft

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSWcGakVEAAttRJ.jpg

jamie collins southern miss

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 27 October 2015 20:56 (eight years ago) link

LEWIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 November 2015 18:38 (eight years ago) link

anything new to report or are we still hoping for some good news?

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 9 November 2015 19:00 (eight years ago) link

ACL torn, season over

slothroprhymes, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link

i am more sad for the game of football than i am for the patriots tbh, he has been a delight to watch at times

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link

awful news though i do think they need someone to be as good as shane vereen not dion lewis

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:21 (eight years ago) link

awful news, but it does seem that every time they lose a kevin faulk or a danny woodhead or a shane vereen, they manage to find another, and sometimes i wonder if maybe it's the system and not the player.

but damn i do love dion.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

meantime, i'm waiting for the week that belichick just goes ahead and dresses only four offensive linemen for a game.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:33 (eight years ago) link

arrgggh

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 9 November 2015 19:35 (eight years ago) link

xxp dion is by far the most talented of the group you mention but they have won with less. time to see what james white can do.

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 November 2015 19:54 (eight years ago) link

rip

lag∞n, Monday, 9 November 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

rams signed welker

lag∞n, Monday, 9 November 2015 23:55 (eight years ago) link

: /

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 November 2015 01:52 (eight years ago) link

he's back

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 10 November 2015 04:11 (eight years ago) link

patriots release db floyd raven, sr. from practice squad.

just wanted to let you all know.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:26 (eight years ago) link

Guess they are not serious about competing this year

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 03:40 (eight years ago) link

awesome malcolm butler anecdote in this sports illustrated story about the history of "i'm going do disneyland."

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 17:29 (eight years ago) link

lol hes funny

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 November 2015 07:25 (eight years ago) link

he's having fun out there. love that sequence with the blocking on the extra points.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 November 2015 14:24 (eight years ago) link

Interesting note.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/belichick-explains-why-he-asks-linemen-wear-knee-braces

I like the idea that Belichick is doing doing rotations on O-line too. If your depth was fairly equal quality wise, I think it would give you a shot. Send in a fresh guard and run the big sweep with a guy with full breath. In theory, I could easily see that working. It would be easier to hide to the other club than changing around some receiver set where you have your returner playing or some not usual TE reporting.

earlnash, Thursday, 12 November 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link

reiss with a great factoid: The Giants are 3-0 against the Patriots since the start of the 2008 calendar year. The Patriots have beaten every other team in the NFL in that time.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 13 November 2015 14:37 (eight years ago) link

edelman broken foot, surgery, maybe back this year, boo

lag∞n, Monday, 16 November 2015 03:50 (eight years ago) link

idk what jamie collins was sick with but he was reeeal sick. rehabbing with specialists to regain weight and strength???

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link

yeah i was reading some stuff on that. i think he got sick the day before the washington game and then wasn't able to keep food down for awhile
should be back v soon though

also these guys are adorable
https://www.instagram.com/p/-UxvKWLs3m/

seriously, THIS GUY (daria-g), Friday, 20 November 2015 23:34 (eight years ago) link

Chandler Jones is such a groupie

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 20 November 2015 23:57 (eight years ago) link

lol aw

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 November 2015 01:45 (eight years ago) link

any patritos heads have the inside line on whether I should start LaFell or Amendola tomorrow?

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 November 2015 04:44 (eight years ago) link

gotta think amendolas gonna get most of edlemans usual looks

lag∞n, Monday, 23 November 2015 04:45 (eight years ago) link

hard to say where edelman's targets will go but prob start lafell, even if he gets increased looks amendola doesn't really score tds

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 23 November 2015 04:47 (eight years ago) link

hmmmm. But he got one against the new york football giants I thought.

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 November 2015 04:48 (eight years ago) link

oh no he didn't. my bad.

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 November 2015 04:48 (eight years ago) link

*i dont play fantasy sports

lag∞n, Monday, 23 November 2015 04:49 (eight years ago) link

this is my first time playing fantasy football. I am winning the office league, having started 5 patriots in the same week. everyone hates me.

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 November 2015 04:52 (eight years ago) link

amendola did have 11 targets against NYG, though

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 November 2015 04:55 (eight years ago) link

I will start LaFell and hover over Roberto's FP button while I watch the game (not really, ty)

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 November 2015 04:57 (eight years ago) link

one last thing is that amendola also catches almost everything, whereas LaFell has jigglemittens

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 November 2015 05:00 (eight years ago) link

i would bet on edelman

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 05:49 (eight years ago) link

lol, amendola i mean

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 05:49 (eight years ago) link

they are essential the same guy, belichick is just cloning slot receivers now

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Monday, 23 November 2015 05:50 (eight years ago) link

ok, at the risk/certainty of going deeper than anyone cares...

amendola will not replace edelman at the patriots' slot receiver because amendola already is the patriots' slot receiver. most likely he will continue to play that role. the outside receivers will be lafell plus either keshawn martin or aaron dobson. belichick and josh mcd apparently like martin a lot, and they don't seem to rate dobson all that high, so martin is prob the first choice if he plays. he is listed as questionable for tonight. if martin plays he'll drop into edelman's z receiver role. if dobson plays he is more of a limited go route type of wr so he will go to x and lafell will switch to z, which is his best spot anyway. so in 2 receiver sets amendola is not necessarily going to be the default 2nd receiver, especially if it is 12 formation with both gronk and chandler on the field too. amendola is not going to be the guy going down the field any more than his in now, and he is still going to be 4th/5th option near the goalline.

so, in conclusion, amendola is going to have a similar role as he has to this point, and already he is getting a lot of the ball so i don't know how much room there is for his numbers to jump, and he is still unlikely to be the guy scoring tds

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 23 November 2015 13:59 (eight years ago) link

for fantasy if you have room on your bench martin might be a better speculative pick up

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 23 November 2015 14:00 (eight years ago) link

also, lafell was super rusty that first game back but he was really good vs nyg last week

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 23 November 2015 14:01 (eight years ago) link

v good point

the grimes of claire boucher ('90s on) (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 23 November 2015 14:34 (eight years ago) link

touchdown!

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 01:48 (eight years ago) link

that is really wonderfully obnoxious

lag∞n, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 05:25 (eight years ago) link

and people say the patriots aren't fun

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 05:29 (eight years ago) link

Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss 2m2 minutes ago
Reminder to self: Go back & watch 6 OPI calls against Rob Gronkowski this season to see if different standard if being applied to Gronkowski

mike reiss rage meter shoots up to "mildly disgruntled" - highest recorded level this calendar year

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 30 November 2015 04:25 (eight years ago) link

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14271010/is-rob-gronkowski-being-unfairly-targeted-referees-nfl

interesting review by matt bowen of the gronk OPI thing from a defensive perspective. his conclusion is interesting, i can see that it must be harder to officiate an uncommon player like gronk. doesn't really address why the approach has suddenly changed so much this season though. at a guess someone on another team was complaining about him contacting defenders and they decided to go zero tolerance and beyond. kind of lame that this is how the nfl works but there's probably no squeakier wheel than belichick when you get down to it.

interesting that the nfl has swapped out the officiating crew for the pats/eagles game, a tacit acknowledgement that NE has been murdered by bad calls the last couple of games.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link

they swapped in the crew that forgot the downs in the cardinals/niners game and has been legendarily bad for years--it was all about pulling that crew off of primetime, the pats just become collateral damage.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:11 (eight years ago) link

oh. great.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:12 (eight years ago) link

it's the crew that called faceguarding in an nfl game iirc

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

i guard the face i guard the face

lag∞n, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:16 (eight years ago) link

major facepalm infraction

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link

the comparison of Gronk to Shaq was a pretty good one

i think its pretty clear the Pats got jobbed this week but they've def been on the other end of that many many times so

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 19:46 (eight years ago) link

it is so funny just how much belichick hates losing. he has been a total asshole to the media all week. it must be powerfully motivating for the players and coaches, wanting to win to not have to deal with him like that. even down to how he doesn't do the patriots all access film review if they lose.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 December 2015 15:57 (eight years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 3 December 2015 16:12 (eight years ago) link

i still find this whole thing a hundred times more insane than OJ

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14292439/aaron-hernandez-moved-segregation-shank-found-cell

nomar, Saturday, 5 December 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link

has there ever been any explanation or motive given for any of the shootings he's been convicted or linked to?

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Saturday, 5 December 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link

some of them were petty beefs and some of them were to cover up the petty beefs

lag∞n, Saturday, 5 December 2015 22:05 (eight years ago) link

guy appears to be a for real psycho

Eugene Goostman (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 6 December 2015 02:45 (eight years ago) link

hell yea

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 December 2015 06:15 (eight years ago) link

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady, who earlier this year had a hat with the “Make America Great Again” slogan of Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in his locker, was asked Tuesday morning during his weekly interview on sports radio WEEI if he’s supporting Trump’s candidacy.

“Can I just stay out of this debate?” Brady said, laughing. “Donald is a good friend of mine. I’ve known him for a long time. I support all my friends, that’s what I have to say.

"He’s a great friend of mine. He’s always been so supportive of me for the last 15 years since I judged a beauty pageant for him, which was one of the very first things I did that I thought was really cool that came along with winning the Super Bowl. He’s always invited me to play golf and I’ve always enjoyed his company.

“I support all my friends in everything they do. I think it’s pretty remarkable what he’s achieved in his life, going from business, an incredible businessman, then a TV star, and then getting into politics. That’s three different career paths.”

When told that his remarks could be viewed as him endorsing Trump over other candidates, Brady laughed.

“This is really important to you guys, huh?” he said, not directly answering the question.

nomar, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 00:16 (eight years ago) link

was tom friends w aaron hernandez

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:08 (eight years ago) link

T/S Trump vs. Hernandez

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 01:47 (eight years ago) link

neither of them take any BS
both of them have killed a few people
it's a tossup

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 07:35 (eight years ago) link

Who'd you rather have as president?

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 14:23 (eight years ago) link

i'd vote for belichick as president, mostly for the press conferences but also to see what matthew slater and nate ebner could do against isis.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link

So how's about we let some key players sit out the last two games?

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 20 December 2015 22:09 (eight years ago) link

Playing for home field tho

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 20 December 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

Won't matter if there's no one left to play

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 20 December 2015 22:47 (eight years ago) link

home field is obvs extremely crucial

lag∞n, Monday, 21 December 2015 01:42 (eight years ago) link

tho if cinci loses next week and the pats win they cld rest for the final game

lag∞n, Monday, 21 December 2015 03:34 (eight years ago) link

https://mobile.twitter.com/HankTime85/status/680540677105659905

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 26 December 2015 10:01 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY

markers, Sunday, 27 December 2015 22:03 (eight years ago) link

i mean, yeah, fuck the pats, but everytime i see gronk take this hit it still blows my mind that he doesn't drop the ball. dude is such a beast.
http://cdn3.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/W_uIlfHUNnXBJAr-XF5Csi9Qlv8%3D/800x0/filters%3Ano_upscale%28%29/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/5855927/gronk4th.0.gif

Does that make you mutter, under your breath, “Damn”? (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 30 December 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link

"danny amendola's carport irks neighbors"

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:27 (eight years ago) link

same

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:28 (eight years ago) link

ppl around here should know what happens to you if you miss patriots practice due to snow and have some sympathy

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 January 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link

wtf is this about chandler jones od'ing???

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:45 (eight years ago) link

We'll see how it pans out, he was at practice today

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 02:58 (eight years ago) link

Phil Perry
‏@PhilAPerry
Bill Belichick just walked through the locker room carrying ... a pair of boxing gloves.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 17:25 (eight years ago) link

ominous

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

anyone late to practice must get in the ring with Bill

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:36 (eight years ago) link

latest on chander jones incident now claiming it was a bad reaction to something as opposed to any kind of OD. but it was like 2am in the morning... i am glad the dude is ok but there is no way this doesn't turn into something that the nfl can kick his ass for

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

ODed on deflated footballs, obv

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

Christopher Gasper ‏@cgasper 11m11 minutes ago
I've had this confirmed on Chandler Jones. We're not talking about a drug that was prescribed by a pharmacist or team medical personnel.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

ends with a lol

Christopher Gasper ‏@cgasper 10m10 minutes ago
Source with knowledge of the situation confirms it was synthetic marijuana that caused Chandler Jones' bad reaction and hospitalization.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 21:31 (eight years ago) link

o jeez that stuff is so horrible

lag∞n, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 21:56 (eight years ago) link

spice is such a bad drug, such a good argument for legalization

Copy rights, pleasing all star wars fans, hiring professionals. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:42 (eight years ago) link

Is synthetic pot legal or what? I don't even know, also don't know nfl's position on it

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 14 January 2016 00:52 (eight years ago) link

prob some types have been outlawed some places but it takes a while for state governments to get around to each new one so yeah its basically legal

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2016 01:07 (eight years ago) link

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/01/14/foxboro/vzHlK9ftbY1uLoZbaCKeEL/story.htmlv

When the officer first saw Jones, he noted that the man was not wearing a shirt.

“This black male subject had a muscular build, he was easily over six feet tall, and he had a noticeably large ‘wing span,’ ” Foscaldo wrote.

Jones approached the police station, Foscaldo wrote, and began to move strangely.

“Without any warning or provocation, this man got down on his knees, he interlocked his fingers, and he placed his hands tightly against the back of his head. For a quick second or two, this man held this position - it was like this man was trying to surrender (he was literally ‘as stiff as a board’/he was both upright and rigid.”

Next, the officer wrote, Jones moved slowly toward the ground: “Honestly, it appeared as if he was actively praying or worshiping.”

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

get yr shit together, Chandler

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link

After observing the marijuana smell, the officer told paramedics, the documents said.

way to end on a high note

Very selfish, and very ironic (DJP), Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

he had a noticeably large ‘wing span,’

amateur draft analyst

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link

this has to be k2

johnny crunch, Thursday, 14 January 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

i lolled at the wing span note also. why not have him run a quick 40 also? test his blood for upside?

balls, Friday, 15 January 2016 05:06 (eight years ago) link

record-equaling 5 championship games in a row. also 10 champ games for brady now, insane.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 17 January 2016 00:58 (eight years ago) link

@DougKyed

Edelman on Brady's 10-yard run: "Anytime the clydesdale gets running, the crowd goes crazy."

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 17 January 2016 02:31 (eight years ago) link

B-)

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 January 2016 04:06 (eight years ago) link

mayo on IR. that's a bummer for him. seems like he hasn't been 100% at all for a while, this whole season at least.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 19 January 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

lying in bed last night couldn't remember drew bledsoe's name. refused to let myself sleep until i did; refused to look it up on my phone right next to the bed. felt like hours, probably 45 minutes.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 24 January 2016 22:21 (eight years ago) link

Bledsoe haunts me too

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 24 January 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link

lol

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 24 January 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link

seems like every broncos unit is playing just a bit better than the equivalent NE unit

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 24 January 2016 22:25 (eight years ago) link

tbrr, Bledsoe had his great moments. The only NFL game I ever went to was Bledsoe vs. Marino at Schaefer stadium the year the Pats went to the SB against GB. Bledsoe broke a finger during that game but still managed to beat Miami. It was probably the single most exciting event of my life.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Sunday, 24 January 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

shdve kicked that fg

lag∞n, Monday, 25 January 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link

if you mean the first one, the 4th and 1, then totally disagree, they just should've run a better play. the 4th and 6 they should've kick. but bear in mind they left denver with gross field position both times. with a kickoff after other things could've played out v differently

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 January 2016 00:23 (eight years ago) link

after either, i mean

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 January 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link

they were a really bad short-yardage team for a lot of the season. not such that it should have stopped them from going for it on 4th and 1, but the degree of difficulty was higher than it should have been.

call all destroyer, Monday, 25 January 2016 00:27 (eight years ago) link

it's the second-best elimination of the sports year!

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Monday, 25 January 2016 00:59 (eight years ago) link

wow they're showing the pats/broncos game on NFLN now and i didn't realize how open gronk was on that attempted 2-point conversion. brady never looked his way

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2016 03:58 (eight years ago) link

i need to unbookmark this thread for a while lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link

i was rooting for the pats because i don't really like football and i thought the fact that they made everyone who cares about football mad was funny. RIP

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 January 2016 17:54 (eight years ago) link

It never ceases to amaze me how full-on LOATHED the Patriots are outside of New England

its subtle brume (DJP), Tuesday, 26 January 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

the best part abt moving to colorado has been telling ppl that the patriots dont have a rivalry with the broncos

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link

a bad part was watching that game in a house full of broncos fans

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:14 (eight years ago) link

pats are 1-4 against the broncos in the playoffs fwiw

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:17 (eight years ago) link

that sounds like something broncos fan who is under the impression the patriots are engaged in a battle for civilization with them wld say and yet i know you are not form colorado

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:20 (eight years ago) link

who drinks flat beer?

nomar, Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:20 (eight years ago) link

british people ime

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:22 (eight years ago) link

colorado has not yet legalized a rivalry with the patriots

I expel a minor traveler's flatulence (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 27 January 2016 00:24 (eight years ago) link

Patriots Nation may have forgotten -- or at least is trying to forget -- Aaron Hernandez, but the tight-end-turned-convicted-murderer hasn't forgotten Patriots Nation.
In a letter to a prison pen pal obtained by TMZ, the incarcerated Hernandez says he watches the Pats games from a TV in a cell and "still [roots] for my squad and still [loves] all the ones I loved."

But he no longer loves one of the ones he loved, describing owner Robert Kraft as "fake ass [and] non loyal," saying Kraft "told me he loved me every time he seen me but obviously shows his word ain't [crap]."

Kraft testified against Hernandez in the trial in which the ex-Patriot was convicted of murdering his former friend, Oden Lloyd.

But he has good words for others, like . . .

Tom Brady: "The closest I was with was probably Brady and whom I love to death and always will and only hope the best for them.”

Rob Gronkowski: “The BEST TE ever to walk on a football field”

Julian Edelman and Deion Branch: "[Was] cool with Julez, Branch (I [bleeped] with and got mad love for)"

Hernandez started the letter by blasting his pen pal -- a woman named Rachel -- for criticizing him and went on to suggest ways she could kill herself:

-- “Tie a cinderblock to your ankles and jump in a deep body of water,” Hernandez writes.

-- “Buy the most powerful firecracker in the world that’s possible to buy, tie it to your face with duct tape, light it and wait for your head to explode.”

But he ends by saying he hopes she "had the best of holidays" . . . though the letter is dated Dec. 15, 10 days before Christmas.

nomar, Monday, 1 February 2016 16:02 (eight years ago) link

This Charming Man just popped into my head

its subtle brume (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link

:]

lag∞n, Monday, 1 February 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link

I just had an idea for a great new sitcom

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 4 February 2016 22:57 (eight years ago) link

please let that cat be the pats' new offensive line coach.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 5 February 2016 03:33 (eight years ago) link

he gives better belichick face than belichick himself.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 5 February 2016 03:34 (eight years ago) link

Have you never encountered Grumpy Cat before? She is possibly a bigger celebrity than Gronk.

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Friday, 5 February 2016 03:46 (eight years ago) link

i use the internet enough that i believe i have seen grumpy cat one or two or maybe seven trillion times. but all cats sort of look alike to me and i confess it did not register with me that that was she. i can be a dolt sometimes.

and i still would like her to be the offensive line coach.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 5 February 2016 03:53 (eight years ago) link

wait til you catch hat cat he used to be big

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Friday, 5 February 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link

jerod mayo retiring. i guess there was no prospect of him getting back to 100% maybe. anyway, he will always be fondly remembered for being the only remotely competent player the pats drafted across 3 drafts, a beacon of hope.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 16 February 2016 23:44 (eight years ago) link

https://twitter.com/ESPNMichele/status/700851686697381888

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 February 2016 01:28 (eight years ago) link

lol!

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 20 February 2016 01:32 (eight years ago) link

that's pretty standard for celeb/speciality cruises afaik

call all destroyer, Saturday, 20 February 2016 01:44 (eight years ago) link

exactly what you would expect of a gronk cruise tbf

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 February 2016 03:58 (eight years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb1IfLkW8AAC96C.png:small

mookieproof, Monday, 22 February 2016 15:54 (eight years ago) link

mea culpa from espn public editor about deflategate coverage and pats coverage in general; cops to being a "rabid jets fan"
http://espn.go.com/blog/ombudsman/post/_/id/624/on-deflategate-espn-air-balls-on-transparency

But sometimes, paranoia is a fair reaction to seemingly inexplicable actions. And to me, Deflategate is one of those examples because this lack of trust emanates from what has been a mismanaged affair by ESPN.

seem to have been countless "you know, this was kinda bullshit. about those draft picks..." articles recently but no chance of anything being done about it. rest of the league not losing sleep over it i am sure.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 March 2016 19:21 (eight years ago) link

wow. Patriots Trade Chandler Jones to Cardinals

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

sad about jones, it has been a while since they had someone who could really get after the qb and it was fun to watch. i guess i get it tho. not especially excited about chris long but they will get something out of him situationally at least

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 02:15 (eight years ago) link

pats pick up donald brown, hugely unexciting addition, but that's their third 1st round player in 2 days. sending a message to the nfl.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

martellus bennett to pats!

this guy w/gronk should be hella entertaining

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:49 (eight years ago) link

he used to have the best blog

Martellus Bennett, Cowboys Insider

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:54 (eight years ago) link

now shea mcclellin from chicago makes 4 1st rounders. but of course another guy trending towards bust so far in nfl.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 17 March 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link

i'm pretty excited about marty b playing in new england

also i guess the pats needed someone to watch cartoons with gronk after they traded his best friend to arizona

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Friday, 18 March 2016 03:52 (eight years ago) link

did you all see the launch of instagronk

https://www.instagram.com/p/BDi2la1DeMG/

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Thursday, 31 March 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link

it has been a main story on the local news for 2 days running

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 31 March 2016 18:04 (eight years ago) link

big news, everyone! I'm dumping my entire wardrobe and investing my life savings in a full line of KiD RiD jumpsuits!

http://www.patriots.com/news/2016/04/13/rob-gronkowski-danny-amendola-model-jumpsuits-drakes-backyard

Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 April 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

don't waste time - only 100 made in each colour!!

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

ODB looks like a hazmat worker from the barbarella universe and danny's tracksuit is the sartorial equivalent of being on the sex offender register. meanwhile gronk is dressed in his regular clothes.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

easley released suddenly. hoping he didn't kill anyone.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 April 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

lol

mookieproof, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

Roger!!

frogbs, Monday, 25 April 2016 16:32 (eight years ago) link

performance art now.

ulysses, Monday, 25 April 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

kinda disappointed by the lack of juicy rageposts here

if young slothrop don't trust ya i'm gon' rhyme ya (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 03:36 (eight years ago) link

just when you thought nothing could be more relentlessly tedious than the deflategate proceedings, here comes good ol' slothroprhymes

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 12:50 (eight years ago) link

NFL off to a good start this season

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 12:54 (eight years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/may/10/tom-brady-cookbook-200-dollars-tb12-nutrition-manual

No coffee. No caffeine. No fungus. No dairy. The kids eat fruit. Tom, not so much.

ulysses, Wednesday, 11 May 2016 13:39 (eight years ago) link

“You know what's awesome?” he says to Mojo, searching for the right way to express it. “I like wearing no shirt, but you have jeans on the bottom. It's cool but it's not. It feels good. It actually feels awesome.”

Talk turns to the election. And Gronk and Mojo are trying to figure out when it is. Rob thinks it's in the fall. But Mojo wants to know, then, why people are voting the following week. The question seems to trouble Gronk, but he moves on.

http://www.gq.com/story/rob-gronkowski-gq-cover-story

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 03:35 (seven years ago) link

love gronk content

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 03:57 (seven years ago) link

The Buddha talked about something called The Monkey Mind—the chattering, distracted, agitated, perplexed state of us normal, unenlightened people. Gronk seems to have been born without that.

pete carroll could never

arts and crafts THIS GUY (daria-g), Tuesday, 17 May 2016 15:44 (seven years ago) link

two months pass...

http://i.imgur.com/aubxTjI.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 2 August 2016 02:37 (seven years ago) link

otm

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 August 2016 04:18 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

never heard of that guy but i'm really glad someone wrote a piece that confirmed what i saw. even the local writers are claiming they ran different stuff on offense.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link

matt bowen is great. ex pro safety who used to write a lot for mike lombardi's website, whatever the hell that was called. he's usually behind the espn paywall now.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 13 September 2016 15:52 (seven years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BKthXa0j1hp/

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 25 September 2016 02:58 (seven years ago) link

Posting here because it's a bit too conspiracy theory-ish for the main NFL thread.

I'm not convinced the Pats came into this game with a strong desire to win. I could easily imagine their main goal is to stay healthy and have the strongest team possible ready for next week.

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Sunday, 2 October 2016 18:34 (seven years ago) link

it's a bit far fetched, and very un-belichick. they have got things together a bit better on defense now they've been able to adjust and on offense nothing can paper over the fact that they're starting an injured rookie at qb.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 2 October 2016 18:47 (seven years ago) link

http://www.nfl.com/belichickletters

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 3 October 2016 18:44 (seven years ago) link

i guess going 3-1 without brady means it is hagiography time but this does have some great nuggets: http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/17703210/new-england-patriots-coach-bill-belichick-greatest-enigma-sports

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 4 October 2016 17:14 (seven years ago) link

zolak is really drunk on 5th quarter

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 16 October 2016 20:21 (seven years ago) link

ftr the writer of that kicked in college and knows what he's talking about, good stuff

call all destroyer, Monday, 24 October 2016 03:34 (seven years ago) link

gonna give this one a rating of: wtf

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 31 October 2016 16:49 (seven years ago) link

giving away maybe best player on defense for literally nothing

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 31 October 2016 16:51 (seven years ago) link

pretty hard to see how this makes any sense at all, are they trying to free up some salary to fill some other position?

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 31 October 2016 16:57 (seven years ago) link

from what i have read so far his contract is up and he wants way too much money and he has been playing below par, possibly related. was taken out a bunch vs buffalo.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 31 October 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link

classic bb

fact checking cuz, Monday, 31 October 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link

that's easy to say but this one is particularly egregious when you add it all up. the timing in particular is unbelievable. this is a different planet than letting chandler jones go at the start of off season, or getting a 1st for richard seymour. i guess it is kind of similar to lawyer milloy, altho even then they weren't midseason and 6-1 at the time.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 31 October 2016 17:38 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Ethan_Booker/status/793131744014794753

Pretty much sums up my feelings about these moves

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 31 October 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link

that's easy to say but this one is particularly egregious when you add it all up.

that's kind of what i mean, though. they always seem egregious, some more than others, and this is pretty damn high on that scale. he's probably traded an entire starting defense's worth of all-pro players for 6th and 7th round draft picks or worse at this point. it's like he doesn't want his defensive coordinators to get too comfortable: "good morning, matt. guess what i did today? have a good one!"

fact checking cuz, Monday, 31 October 2016 18:07 (seven years ago) link

from mike reiss:

The Patriots get a third-round pick in return. Had Collins departed as a free agent after the season, the club probably would have received a third-round compensatory pick in 2018.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 31 October 2016 18:30 (seven years ago) link

i'm way past being surprised by the patriots internal evaluations

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 October 2016 19:06 (seven years ago) link

they effectively just cut him tho. the evaluation is that the team is better with him off the roster than on it. you can't manage this elite athlete to contribute better than a scrub you pick up halfway thru the season?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 31 October 2016 19:21 (seven years ago) link

if there's more film of him breaking contain and giving up 28-yard runs then maybe!

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 October 2016 19:30 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwB11mnW8AAG3Vb.jpg

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Monday, 31 October 2016 23:53 (seven years ago) link

linebackers coach says it was a surprise, one of better plays in the group, criticisms inaccurate. must be an interesting place to work

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 14:58 (seven years ago) link

the amount of commentary coming from within the team on this one is weirdly un-patriot-ic

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 November 2016 21:42 (seven years ago) link

fake

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 04:19 (seven years ago) link

did bill put out a statement? I know brady has refuted the voting claim publicly

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 04:53 (seven years ago) link

no statement - a pats beat writer asked the team and they didn't have any statement.. some other reporter got belichick on the phone & he said he'd get back to him and hung up

it seems kind of bogus to me

https://twitter.com/ESQPolitics/status/795829791417106432

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 05:36 (seven years ago) link

i definitely took beichick to be a curt schilling type, i'd be really heartened if he was more a gregg popovich dude

k3vin k., Tuesday, 8 November 2016 06:12 (seven years ago) link

i've heard in the past bill has quietly supported dem politicians and causes

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 13:31 (seven years ago) link

hard to find anything on record other than that he's stated he was a D in the past

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 13:34 (seven years ago) link

here's gisele's response via instagram comments fwiw https://twitter.com/feitsbarstool/status/795823202312318976

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 13:54 (seven years ago) link

Report: Bill did write that letter! :-0

http://deadspin.com/report-bill-belichick-did-write-that-letter-to-donald-1788696859

brownie, Tuesday, 8 November 2016 16:16 (seven years ago) link

here's the thing: this is only surprising bc of how blatant it was. you'd think he'd just donate some money and not say a word, given his taciturn approach to all things non-football. otherwise it's not particularly shocking that a dude like bill belichick isn't liberal.

i've watched a lot of cats do weird and interesting things (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 8 November 2016 17:06 (seven years ago) link

so early next week is brady's weekly radio appearance on some boston sports show & he's promised them to reveal which candidate he voted for. preparing for change to BAN BRADY once he starts talking about making america great again

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Sunday, 13 November 2016 19:51 (seven years ago) link

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/jets-week-12-matchup-with-patriots-moved-off-sunday-night-football-1.12616078

“Who knows?” said Flood, who was at a lunch in Manhattan to promote NBC’s coverage of the NFL’s “Thursday Night Football” package. “We had the Butt Fumble Game on Thanksgiving [of 2012] that didn’t draw a big audience because it was over by the end of the first quarter.”

important anniversary coming up you guys

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Monday, 14 November 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0AacJIUQAA-Ye9.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 19 December 2016 14:27 (seven years ago) link

8 consecutive division titles is a new nfl record, 7 consecutive 1st round byes is a new record. astounding really.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 19 December 2016 15:03 (seven years ago) link

really crazy
last non-playoff yr was the 11-win season w cassel

johnny crunch, Monday, 19 December 2016 17:53 (seven years ago) link

It does kinda help having Miami, the Jets and Bills as the rest of the division. Still you got to play well in the other 10 games.

earlnash, Monday, 19 December 2016 20:15 (seven years ago) link

how did 2011 pats wind up in the SB with that defense
(checks wikipedia.. oh right played divisional round vs tebow and beat a ravens team that really should've won)

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Thursday, 29 December 2016 18:54 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/817417091083108352

this is p cool. "he calls the right protection every fucking time"

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:16 (seven years ago) link

tommy bradys in yr head reading yr plays

lag∞n, Friday, 6 January 2017 17:47 (seven years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/tombrady/

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Saturday, 7 January 2017 22:46 (seven years ago) link

This intense thriller follows one man's path to execution and the strong-minded doctor brought in to take a deeper look at the violent circumstances that have doomed him. Jackson Shea (Kaiwi Lyman-Mersereau) has lived a life of deceit, brutality and corruption. But when a series of chilling, violent events lands him on Death Row, one psychologist (Denise Richards) must determine whether his violent behavior is inherent in his soul, or if he is able to be rehabilitated and saved from execution. Also starring Bruce Dern, Columbus Short, Johnny Messner, Michael Paré and featuring Stipe Miocic and Rob Gronkowski.

nomar, Saturday, 14 January 2017 18:34 (seven years ago) link

so is bill gonna attend the inauguration or just watch highlights on snapface

malcolm brogdon #nbavote (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 17:39 (seven years ago) link

http://www.sbnation.com/2017/1/12/14231496/new-england-patriots-donald-trump-fan-problem

i mean, i'm rooting bigly for them to win the SB again, but ugh

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 02:26 (seven years ago) link

but hey if my afc team is going down this road at least i can root for my other....

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/314733-r#dskins-owner-attends-exclusive-trump-inaugural-celebration

https://media.giphy.com/media/XccaUYZ2EHAhG/giphy.gif

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 03:16 (seven years ago) link

https://twitter.com/BenVolin/status/822265112094527493

FREE BRADY (daria-g), Friday, 20 January 2017 04:31 (seven years ago) link

only a Trump presidency could get me to root for the Steelers and here we are

brownie, Friday, 20 January 2017 12:51 (seven years ago) link

i will not let trump take the sports from me too

lag∞n, Friday, 20 January 2017 16:10 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

goodell slinking away while kraft referenced the last 2 years, trophy in hand, was everything i hoped it could be

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 6 February 2017 03:51 (seven years ago) link

the wall of booos and then Kraft's masterpiece of passive aggression were beautiful

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 6 February 2017 03:58 (seven years ago) link

https://vimeo.com/202405729

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 6 February 2017 04:09 (seven years ago) link

nice

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Monday, 6 February 2017 04:11 (seven years ago) link

i like to imagine they kept the only original of that in a zip drive and at half time it was in the microwave ready to be destroyed. the shame if they lost and it leaked

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 6 February 2017 04:14 (seven years ago) link

goodell slinking away while kraft referenced the last 2 years, trophy in hand, was everything i hoped it could be

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, February 5, 2017 10:51 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol when goodell first approached brady on the field to shake his hand he tried to exist asap and brady didnt let go

lag∞n, Monday, 6 February 2017 05:37 (seven years ago) link

please enjoy this clip of the entire stadium booing goodell as he hands them the lombardi

http://streamable.com/7n7v9

evil pats 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 (daria-g), Monday, 6 February 2017 08:28 (seven years ago) link

OK. It's Monday. I am so done with this now.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 6 February 2017 18:54 (seven years ago) link

Matt Patricia stepping up his shade game:

https://twitter.com/LeadingNFL/status/828748921904074752/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 16:30 (seven years ago) link

new england patriots: hate roger goodell, love donald trump, ok, got it.

thank you devin mccourty and martellus bennett for joining the resistance.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:05 (seven years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4FHP5mWYAQ3KaS.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:24 (seven years ago) link

xp

I'm fine with criticizing the Trump love, it's pretty WTF. Don't really get why anyone would want to defend Goodell on a Pats thread though...

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 18:30 (seven years ago) link

don't think anyone is defending goodell. i'm not. i am questioning where these adults are choosing to focus -- and not focus -- their resistance energy in 2017.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:28 (seven years ago) link

gonna go out on a limb and call that the stupidest thing i've ever seen posted on ilx, congrats

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:30 (seven years ago) link

nah, this was definitely stupider. me on tim tebow, aug. 31, 2013:

i find all the talk about how his nfl career is clearly over to be way premature. he's a competitor, he's got incredible desire, character of course, and some very obvious football skills unrelated to throwing a ball to a human target. he ain't done.

enjoy the parade. keep hatin'.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:38 (seven years ago) link

fair

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:41 (seven years ago) link

here's my own overlong response:

I'm all for team members expressing their opposition to Trump, but I'd hardly expect the whole team to be on the same page about this or for there to be some grand political statement from the Patriots regarding Trump, either pro or con. I suspect there's a significant portion of the team that is either uninterested in politics or uncomfortable with making public political gestures. There's also likely to be plenty of team members (and people in pro sports in general) with disgusting political views that they hopefully won't feel compelled to share with the rest of the world.

OTOH, I'd be willing to bet that the entire Patriots organization has very specific feelings about Roger Goodell, and that they are very unified in their opinions. This is a topic that surely hits close to home for all of them. However, if someone in the Patriot's org is outspoken about Goodell or has strong feelings about that situation, that in no way implies that they do or do not have thoughts about US politics, or that they are pro or anti Trump.

It makes sense to applaud political engagement when it happens, but I don't know what the point is of complaining that someone from the Pats' org shouldn't have strong feelings on a topic that has direct impact on them, but instead should focus on something that they may or may not be interested in.

basically, Spiralli otm

Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:46 (seven years ago) link

football is bad and fascist if you are going to like football you might as well root for the villains imo, luv the pats f the h8rs

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 February 2017 19:57 (seven years ago) link

i certainly don't expect all of my favorite teams and athletes to always share my political views. i don't expect all of them to even have political views. i get that. of course. and i think roger goodell is a buffoon. i also think the season is over, the game has been won, and if you're going to be out on the streets of america in 2017 protesting those who you think have done you wrong, even just with a silly t-shirt, it would be wise to maintain a sense of perspective and consider who in america is really being wronged right now, and what they stand to suffer vs. what you stand to suffer.

i think mccourty and bennett have shown true character -- more character than anyone showed on the field on sunday -- and i salute them.

and i'm sure i sound like the masshole that i am. another kind of masshole, maybe. but still a masshole.

not trying to rain on anybody's parade. seriously.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 7 February 2017 20:06 (seven years ago) link

gronk 4 life

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 February 2017 02:12 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandezs-double-murder-trial-what-you-need-to-know-234629668.html

BOSTON — Five months removed from catching a Tom Brady touchdown pass in the Super Bowl, and less than six weeks from finalizing a $40 million contract extension with the New England Patriots, Aaron Hernandez and his friend Alexander Bradley stood in a garage in Manchester, Conn.

It was about 10 p.m. on Sunday, July 15, 2012, and Hernandez wanted to go up to Boston and hit a nightclub. The hour and a half-plus drive meant nothing. Boston was where Hernandez was a star, the big city where they could get ushered into VIP sections and have patrons, particularly women, fawn over him.

Hernandez popped the hood of a Toyota 4Runner a Rhode Island dealer loaned him for free. He slipped a .38-caliber Smith & Wesson into a secret cylinder installed near the engine block. It was a way to conceal a gun, particularly if pulled over by police. It was something out of “The Wire.” The purpose was unclear.

Hernandez had no criminal record, no gang ties and was involved in no outside criminal activities. Growing up in Bristol, Conn., he was raised in a two family home in a town with little to no significant gang activity or even violent crime.

He was, by 2012, a 22-year-old NFL star, headed into a lucrative third season with an again Super Bowl contender. He could have carried a legal weapon in the vehicle. Bradley was a convicted cocaine dealer but was nothing more than a ride along that night. The hidden gun cylinder felt mostly like a guy trying to live a life out of the movies.

This is the beginning of the story Suffolk County prosecutors in Boston will tell to a jury of 12 in the latest murder trial of Aaron Hernandez. It begins Wednesday morning in courtroom 906.

The prosecution’s story will continue like this:

Weapon secured, the hood was dropped and Hernandez and Bradley headed to Boston’s Theatre District. There, inside the Cure Nightclub, Hernandez bumped, literally, into a Cape Verdean immigrant named Daniel de Abreu. Some of Hernandez’s drink was spilled. Abreu, 29, had been a police officer in Cape Verde but was working as a janitor in Boston. He didn’t know Hernandez or much about football. He smiled but didn’t apologize. Hernandez grew enraged. He told Bradley he felt Abreu was “trying him.”

Later, after hitting a couple more clubs, Hernandez was still angry. He and Bradley headed to the Toyota as closing time neared and Hernandez retrieved the weapon from under the hood. They then got in the SUV and circled around the block, looking for Abreu and his party. The hunt was successful, Hernandez spotting them after they left Cure. He ran a nearby red light so he could catch them in pursuit.

The borrowed 2003 BMW Abreu was driving sat innocently at a stoplight down the street where, the prosecution’s story will continue, Hernandez pulled up alongside, lowered a window and began firing.

He hit Abreu, 29 in the chest, killing him. He hit passenger Safiro Furtado, 28, another Cape Verdean-born janitor, in the head, killing him as well. Three more shots went into the backseat, where three stunned and terrified passengers sat. Aquilino Freire was struck twice, in his arms, but survived. Two others barreled out the other door and fled on foot.

Hernandez, out of bullets, kept squeezing the trigger anyway. Soon he slipped onto the Mass Pike and headed back to Connecticut. Detectives in Boston arrived on a scene with few clues and no easy explanation. No one could figure out why the incident had occurred. The idea it might be the Patriots’ star tight end never entered anyone’s mind. Its randomness led to initial suspicions it was just another stupid gang killing, a too frequent occurrence in the city.

nomar, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:16 (seven years ago) link

aaron hernandez killed two people and tried to kill three more, it's kind of crazy how he was a serial killer and a mass murderer at the same time

nomar, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 02:18 (seven years ago) link

stephon gilmore contract is 5-year, $65m w/ $40m guaranteed. can't really imagine butler was asking for more than that so i guess they like gilmore more? no way butler can be expected to stick around on the 1 yr deal when this contract has been given out. struggle to give credence to the cooks swap but a trade likely on the cards.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 9 March 2017 21:13 (seven years ago) link

meanwhile, branch back at 2yrs/$12m and harmon $5m/yr. supposedly reasonable chance hightower is back. defense seems like it will stay in reasonable shape.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 9 March 2017 21:16 (seven years ago) link

bummed about losing ryan to tenn at reasonable money. now really unsure what their plan at cb is. probably draft a 5th round prospect with #32

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 March 2017 14:38 (seven years ago) link

trade 4 #KONY

call all destroyer, Friday, 10 March 2017 20:56 (seven years ago) link

lol. part of the fill for the situational rushers they let go i guess. not sure what the equivalent value of moving 8 spots in the draft is but can't be that much.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 March 2017 21:03 (seven years ago) link

idk what the hard on for brandin cooks is all about but paying more than a 1st rounder for him seems p gross to me. hope i end up regretting this post but...

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 11 March 2017 01:01 (seven years ago) link

some trades today by ye olde patritos hehe

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2017 01:31 (seven years ago) link

Joseph Hoyt‏ @JoeJHoyt 1h1 hour ago
In total: The #Patriots gave up the 32nd pick, No. 64 & No. 103 for Brandin Cooks, Kony Ealy & the 72nd pick. Bill Belichick is a wizard.

idk know enough abt football to tell if this is good, ppl on twitter seem to think it is tho

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:02 (seven years ago) link

i think the hardon for cooks is:

espn: New Patriots WR Brandin Cooks is 1 of only 3 players to record at least 75 receptions, 1,000 receiving yards, and 8 receiving touchdowns in each of the last 2 seasons. The others are Odell Beckham Jr. and Antonio Brown.

he is really good and he fits their offense.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:14 (seven years ago) link

that sound pretty good to me!

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:15 (seven years ago) link

nb i have no idea what bill's grand plan is but he sure does keep it interesting

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:19 (seven years ago) link

hopefully cooks is the exception but a lot of dudes have put up big #s with brees throwing to them in the superdome and then looked subpar elsewhere. 1st rounder + is a big deal, especially when the next pick they have (currently) is in the 3rd.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:23 (seven years ago) link

lots of dudes have put up big numbers with brady throwing to them outdoors

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:29 (seven years ago) link

based on all i have read we're not talking about like lance moore or robert meachem--he can play the slot, run different routes, and make plays after the catch

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:32 (seven years ago) link

feel like the pats have never picked up any sort of big deal receiver before its either via draft or cast offs

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:35 (seven years ago) link

the cooks and gilmore transactions are both really unusual ones for the pats

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:39 (seven years ago) link

wonder if belichick feels like the market has shifted

lag∞n, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:40 (seven years ago) link

maybe. seems like he isn't into this draft class very much.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:42 (seven years ago) link

it makes me uncomfortable. i'd feel so much better if they'd just convinced amendola to cut his salary to league minimum and went into the season with justin coleman and prince amukamara on a 1 yr 7m deal as starting cbs

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:44 (seven years ago) link

one thing i heard on the radio that was an interesting point was that when the falcons focused on taking away edelman in the super bowl the pats didn't really have anyone who could make plays after the catch. they figured out how to get the ball to mitchell and hogan outside but both those guys are sort of catch and fall down types. i think a lot of the cooks move has to be about getting in front of an edelman decline.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:46 (seven years ago) link

well this is interesting. seems relevant...
https://www.mockdraftable.com/player/brandin-cooks

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 11 March 2017 02:53 (seven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Awesome

Moodles, Monday, 3 April 2017 01:13 (seven years ago) link

whatcha gonna do when gronkamania runs wild on YOU

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Monday, 3 April 2017 01:32 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

half of pats squad skip white house visit
hot 1st take: "half of pats squad in stinging trump snub"
ppl: hey, maybe these guys aren't as bad as we thought
actual story: "half of pats squad skip white house because they already went year before last"
ppl: oh, they're actually worse

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 20 April 2017 17:32 (seven years ago) link

looked like the entire secondary was missing. wonder why brady ditched out at the last minute. gisele just happened to tweet the same morning that everyone should go to the climate march on april 29..

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/20/us/patriots-alan-branch-white-house-don-lemon-cnntv/

thank u alan branch

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Thursday, 20 April 2017 23:54 (seven years ago) link

respect to a. branch, seems like a quality dude.

call all destroyer, Friday, 21 April 2017 00:51 (seven years ago) link

the hernandez stuff just gets stranger and stranger

k3vin k., Monday, 24 April 2017 20:54 (seven years ago) link

i never thought i'd see an NFL player/murderer have a stranger story than O.J.'s

nomar, Monday, 24 April 2017 21:14 (seven years ago) link

what happened

lag∞n, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 04:22 (seven years ago) link

well here's one thing (person quoted is his fiancee's laywyer)

“This family doesn’t know if he had a gay lover in the prison. Or didn’t have a gay lover in the prison,” Leontire said during the sidebar conversation. “Allegedly one of the notes is to a gay lover. They have a right to know that.”

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 25 April 2017 04:30 (seven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

How Reche Caldwell went from the @Patriots to prison: https://t.co/AuZ6GvDYgN pic.twitter.com/SUtJ3T3nqe

— Only In Boston (@OnlyInBOS) May 10, 2017

O_O

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Thursday, 11 May 2017 02:24 (seven years ago) link

i don't want to make light of someone going to prison but goddamn reche is making it hard

call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 May 2017 02:34 (seven years ago) link

Swarmed by SWAT members, on his way to the ground, a still exasperated Caldwell yelled, "Damn, man, you blasted the door with a tank? Why didn't ya just knock? I woulda let y'all in."

"Good lord that boy was a bad criminal," says his mom, "and thank Jesus for that."

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Thursday, 11 May 2017 02:35 (seven years ago) link

for most of this story he acts and sounds like bighead from silicon valley if he were trying to be a criminal

call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 May 2017 02:39 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BVhgX8oD2e4/

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:08 (six years ago) link

that's...more of danny amendola than i ever wanted to see

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 21 June 2017 02:34 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Watched the first 5 games of the 2007 season, decided to make a thread of Brady's 50 TDs & just keep adding to it eventually.

— '06 Chad Jackson (@fearthe_beard11) July 14, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 16 July 2017 14:40 (six years ago) link

click for videos/gifs. those tds to moss in 2x/3x coverage...just outrageous.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 16 July 2017 14:41 (six years ago) link

had no idea bout this gettleman stuff, seems like players hated him

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000820283/article/expanthers-stars-revel-in-dave-gettlemans-dismissal

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link

rong thred

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 17 July 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

literally not one legit reason for gronk to be on the field for a single preseason snap

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 20 August 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link

true patrito promotion

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIFJGl6XgAI3d8v.jpg:small

mookieproof, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:07 (six years ago) link

i guess on the bright side this is prob among the more benign/constructive uses of defense budget money

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 25 August 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link

lil prediction for yall: pats are going to be good this year. remember where you saw it first

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 25 August 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

what is the britishes for 'yall'

mookieproof, Friday, 25 August 2017 23:49 (six years ago) link

you lot

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 25 August 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

pats r gonna be good this year you lot

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 August 2017 00:01 (six years ago) link

oi you lot, pats are going to be shit hot this year

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 26 August 2017 00:08 (six years ago) link

tell you what, i fancy a bit of gridiron

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 26 August 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link

thats what i meant

lag∞n, Saturday, 26 August 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link

#Patriots WR Julian Edelman has suffered what is believed to be a torn ACL, per sources. MRI tomorrow to confirm.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) August 26, 2017

mookieproof, Saturday, 26 August 2017 03:09 (six years ago) link

bummer for jules. maybe if he had wanted it more his knee would've stayed intact.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 26 August 2017 03:17 (six years ago) link

Wow, short season, RIP Pats.

Moodles, Saturday, 26 August 2017 04:45 (six years ago) link

as much as edelman is one of the guys you'd least want to lose, the pats have literally never been this deep at skill positions. this offense is still going to be a wrecking ball.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 26 August 2017 11:31 (six years ago) link

I'm sure the Pats will pull out some new diminutive WR out of some lab deep below Gillette Stadium to be the Welkerbot V.4 or TroyBrownbot V.2.

earlnash, Sunday, 27 August 2017 01:17 (six years ago) link

it's finally 'Dola's time to shine!

Moodles, Sunday, 27 August 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link

whos that undrafted rookie they got hes the new julian welker

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2017 05:26 (six years ago) link

danny gets promoted from hardly playing at all to splitting wr3 with mitchell. whether he gets significant playing time probably depends on how early in the season gronk gets injured, and whether dwayne allen is any good. before the injury tho there was a small chance he didn't make the roster at all, which is sad fpr a dude who takes a pay cut every year to stay on the team. it's funny to think back to those couple seasons when he was the entire rams offense.

the undrafted rookie wr everyone is excited about this time is austin carr, who i guess now is actually a roster shot despite seeming inevitably destined for the practice squad like the exciting camp rookie wrs usually are. he does not seem to be in the julian welker mould, sadly

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 27 August 2017 12:23 (six years ago) link

too tall

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

if ur a gm and belichick calls u up trying to trade for yr small white 3rd option slot receiver do u get super nervous or

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 August 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

have any of you guys gone to foxboro for a game? i'm trying to do this & don't know when is the best time to buy a ticket off stubhub. should I wait and hope a less expensive single ticket pops up in the week before the game?

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 22:30 (six years ago) link

i've gone but i had a sweet hookup through an ilxor. just looked at prices for the second game and.......damn.

i wouldn't be optimistic about getting anything all that much cheaper.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

yeah thats a tough ticket id say if you see a price u like just take it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 22:42 (six years ago) link

obv the patriots are an entirely different franchise since when gillette was built but it does suck that it is in the bottom half of stadiums by capacity. if they could rustle up another 20000 seats maybe ppl could afford to see a game. or maybe that would just soak up the season ticket waiting list...

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link

i don't know what the resale prices are, altho i can imagine, but i would say it is 100% worth going at least one time for the experience

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 29 August 2017 23:47 (six years ago) link

otm, it is awesome

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 00:16 (six years ago) link

Only Pats game I've been to was at Sullivan Stadium, Bledsoe vs Marino, the year they went to the super bowl.

Moodles, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 01:09 (six years ago) link

resale is like $275 for the cheapest seats rn. ugh. i hate expensive tickets. i've never paid that much to see anything (closest was like $175 but it was kendrick lamar one-off show at the kennedy center so). but i'll probably do it

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Wednesday, 30 August 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link

sullivan was such a pit! lol the pats were the worst, how times change

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

that shit didnt even have seats just cold ass metal benches

lag∞n, Wednesday, 30 August 2017 02:07 (six years ago) link

this guy, this bill belichick. he's always up to something but it's never quite what you expect. and it rarely seems to make sense. but it usually works out pretty well.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 2 September 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

ok, cassius marsh trade is more like what i was waiting for. that's a superb pick up. and made possible by the jets sending richarson to seattle, presumably.

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 2 September 2017 23:34 (six years ago) link

Smh they cheating lol https://t.co/IwPCWirZCw

— Chris Harris (@ChrisHarrisJr) September 2, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 2 September 2017 23:38 (six years ago) link

reacting to brissett/dorsett trade

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 2 September 2017 23:39 (six years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/FX27PCg.gif

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2017 00:35 (six years ago) link

austin carr sniped by new orleans, rip this year's camp breakout undrafted rookie wr. saints' wr factory will prob make something out of him but still a 50/50 chance he is wr4 on the jets in a couple years.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:55 (six years ago) link

peace be with u lil homie

lag∞n, Sunday, 3 September 2017 16:58 (six years ago) link

this is kind of interesting, highest passer rating vs NE for 50+ attempts since 2000.

it goes:
1. Brees
2. Wilson
3. Kaepernick
4. Plummer
5. Green
6. Ryan
7. Smith
8. Dalton
9. Orton
10. Eli
11. Rodgers
12. Favre
13. Bradford

— Doug Kyed (@DougKyed) September 6, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 6 September 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link

Bud light handing out cups that sync with a smartphone app and light up with every Patriots touchdown... Cool? pic.twitter.com/RfGoRHYJJV

— Nick O'Malley (@nickjomalley) September 7, 2017

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link

folks theres a football game to night

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

America's passtime

wordplay

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:35 (six years ago) link

Oh shit they lost another wr already while I wasn't paying attention. Maybe Dorsett is a quick learner...

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 September 2017 21:44 (six years ago) link

Feeling very guilty that I'm probably skipping my exercise class to watch this tonight.

Moodles, Thursday, 7 September 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

football should be illegal but i will probably watch

k3vin k., Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:02 (six years ago) link

football starting is good cos that means the nba season is around the corner. also football is pretty cool sometimes.

Spottie, Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:08 (six years ago) link

anyone else watch that 'do your job' (v2) pats documentary that nbc played a couple days ago? v interesting esp the gambling by patricia when calling the defense in the second half after that julio jones catch. including the fact that they knew one of the refs on that crew made a critical holding call in a prev playoff game.

also one of my favorite belichick quotes re the first half -> "I felt like we had control of the game. We just didn't have control of the score."

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:23 (six years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:25 (six years ago) link

also i miss legarrette blount he seems like one of the nicest guys

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYwZHuLgUwy/

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link

regular at celtics games too

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2017 23:31 (six years ago) link

i recorded dyj2 but haven't watched yet, psyched for it tho.

saw legarrette at a c's game once, he is an enormous dude.

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 September 2017 00:22 (six years ago) link

lol why they have wahlberg out there everyone knows he left before it even got to 28-3

comey did deflategate (daria-g), Friday, 8 September 2017 00:31 (six years ago) link

lol i forgot about that, man i f'n hate that guy

call all destroyer, Friday, 8 September 2017 00:34 (six years ago) link

When u really don't like chefs but NE.

felix! phelix! ghelix! (Hunt3r), Friday, 8 September 2017 02:13 (six years ago) link

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#Patriots LB Dont'a Hightower is believed to have suffered a minor MCL sprain vs KC, I'm told. With the long break, could actually play W2.

looked like it could've been much worse so i'll definitely take this silver lining to yesterday's giant shitstorm

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 September 2017 14:23 (six years ago) link

Depth at RB was a nice change, but total lack of WRs and defense isn't going to get them far

Moodles, Friday, 8 September 2017 15:34 (six years ago) link

football is bad just my opinon

lag∞n, Friday, 8 September 2017 15:39 (six years ago) link

to be fair they were very deep at wr before they lost 3 in 2 weeks. defense is going to be fine, altho i hadn't noticed how unexciting the LB corps is past/without hightower.

i wouldn't read a great deal into last night in terms of the full season. combo of pats being outsmarted and outsmarting themselves, playing 4th choice safety as a LB did not work outside of the strip. my abiding memory of the game will be a DE somehow in man coverage on a deep bomb that turned into a 75y td and predictably getting toasted. things like that don't happen when they have their shit together.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 September 2017 15:46 (six years ago) link

i am a little more concerned about the offense, in the short term anyway. with amendola out brady only had hogan and gronk, and maybe lewis, as receiving options he has an established rapport with. kcc bracketed gronk and put peters on hogan and then even tho brady had all the time in the world vs often a 3 man rush he just had no one to pass to. but there were promising signs of life in his relationship with cooks and burkhead and hopefully dola is back soon. and not every team has marcus peters. one thing i noticed is that i don't remember seeing dwayne allen at all after that misfire first play, certainly he ended the game without a catch. i think brady blackballed him even tho it was a horrendous throw and clearly not allen's fault at all.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 September 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

brissett is going in for indy...

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 10 September 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

wow why not w/that score

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 September 2017 22:14 (six years ago) link

why would anyone continue to employ a HC who thinks starting scott tolzien at qb is a reasonable way to enter a new season?

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 10 September 2017 22:19 (six years ago) link

LOL brissett 1/1 for 50y and leads a TD first drive

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 10 September 2017 22:35 (six years ago) link

why would anyone continue to employ a HC who thinks starting scott tolzien at qb is a reasonable way to enter a new season?

pagano just told press they got their ass kicked by the 49ers. after losing to the rams.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 10 September 2017 23:36 (six years ago) link

guess this is the end of getting good odds on pagano as first coach fired

call all destroyer, Monday, 11 September 2017 00:26 (six years ago) link

patriots defense looks, not great

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 September 2017 20:25 (six years ago) link

they looked soft against the run again and as often in recent years were bamboozled by a mobile qb

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 24 September 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

The players kneeling sparked a strong reaction from former Patriots offensive tackle Matt Light who was part of the franchise's first three Super Bowl championships.

"As a guy that's been there and helped set up the Patriot Way so they can walk in there and do what they do, it's beyond disheartening," Light told the Boston Herald. "It's the first time I've ever been ashamed to be a Patriot. And I promise you I'm not the only one."

Matt Light fought and died for you ungrateful jerks

nomar, Monday, 25 September 2017 15:52 (six years ago) link

damien woody not impressed by light's insistence that it wouldn't have happened during his time

Child please! I would like to see u tell another grown man what he could or couldn’t do! U can disagree but you had no authority over anyone

— Damien Woody (@damienwoody) September 25, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

FU Matt Light

Moodles, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:05 (six years ago) link

matt light more like matt dim

lag∞n, Monday, 25 September 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

reading bill's tepid statement i am 100% sure he asked the pr ppl to figure out the absolute bare minimum he could say in support of the players

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 September 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link

Statement from #Patriots Head Coach Bill Belichick: pic.twitter.com/WguC8xakkz

— New England Patriots (@Patriots) September 25, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 25 September 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link

I'm imagining the PR firm taking his first draft of "Soon you will understand the power of the Dark Side *insert Force Choke*" and saying, "Well this is a nice start, Mr. Belichick; why don't you let us workshop this a bit for you?"

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Monday, 25 September 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

lol patritos r bad

lag∞n, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

i figure unless brady gets killed they'll still win 11/12 games, but not sure what they'll look like going into the playoffs. it'll be interesting to see how they progress. even tho they do have a stack of good contributors on offense, the loss of edelman actually meant they had to completely change how they play on the fly. the difference between brady holding the ball for 2 seconds and 4 seconds is huge and that quick throw isn't reliably there anymore. the offense will continue to be good tho - last night was a TNF aberration. and based on last night it looks like they're also going to change how they play defense because of the secondary problems. i think they will figure that out because the personnel is there. unfortunately they look real soft up the gut and that is definitely a personnel issue, with branch way down on last year and linebackers that look replacement level except for hightower. the pass rush also desperately needs wise to look like he did wk 1-2 and not like last night.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 6 October 2017 16:51 (six years ago) link

the patritos seem, bad

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 October 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link

they r good actually

lag∞n, Sunday, 15 October 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

theyre bad

lag∞n, Monday, 16 October 2017 16:45 (six years ago) link

Who is really good? Even the good teams are really flawed right now.

earlnash, Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

parity more like parody

https://i.imgur.com/dp1X7c7.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

it's amazing how dynamic the nfl is week to week this season. teams are really all over the place. it feels like there's no way of predicting what'll happen over the next say month, but in terms of getting to and thru the playoffs, there are teams that organizationally know how to be good after thanksgiving and teams that don't, or we don't know yet, or who aren't even looking that far ahead. things will settle down come december.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:01 (six years ago) link

idg how the steelers can win in kansas city and baltimore and get beaten by chicago and blown out at home by jax

i suppose the answer is that roffles sux now

mookieproof, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link

steelers seem to be in a similar position to the pats in that the pieces appear to be there but they are a ways from quite coming together yet. roethlisberger has looked p off but if it is just a slump and he pulls out of it, pburgh may actually hit the playoffs looking really good. being a breaker up on kcc could wind up being a big deal too.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

everyone else in their division is bad, which helps

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 19 October 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link

fyi my kid receives a book every month from PJ Library, which is part of a non-profit organization and sends out children's books with themes based around Judaism. This month's book?

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0509/3401/products/FlyingHighBookFront.jpg?v=1507748955

In 2016 Edelman became one of three Patriots (along with Malcolm Mitchell and Martellus Bennett) to publish a children's book. Edelman's book, Flying High, is about a squirrel named Jules who learns to overcome his physical limitations through hard work and the assistance of a goat named Tom.[71]

nomar, Friday, 20 October 2017 04:20 (six years ago) link

you need to burn that in front of him

mookieproof, Friday, 20 October 2017 04:27 (six years ago) link

Not only do the ladies love the moves, so does coach.https://t.co/oYNgsO9pSF

— Rob Gronkowski (@RobGronkowski) October 21, 2017

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Saturday, 21 October 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

Do you have any players that aren’t assholes

El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 October 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link

thanks for stopping by

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 21 October 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link

pats r good, only in the fog

lag∞n, Monday, 23 October 2017 03:04 (six years ago) link

rip new england pats

According to a league source, Donta Hightower has a torn pectoral muscle and is out for the year. Big loss for the Patriots

— Ben Volin (@BenVolin) October 26, 2017

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:00 (six years ago) link

Ugh

Moodles, Thursday, 26 October 2017 17:08 (six years ago) link

if the patriots offense can raise its play to the level of the defense they could make a real run at a championship

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 October 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

i will only believe in this patriots team if they acquire megatron

lag∞n, Sunday, 29 October 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

texans generously getting beaten on the same play action deep balls over and over to keep this interesting

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 29 October 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

jimmy g to SF for what will presumably be pick #33 or 34. timing is weird for what is a pretty fair deal, would've thought they might have been able to squeeze a bit more out a desperate team. pats a lil short behind brady now...

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 00:48 (six years ago) link

hopefully will draft someone a little better than ras-i dowling

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 00:53 (six years ago) link

wonder if they might be looking to move that pick for a linebacker or someone

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 01:00 (six years ago) link

yeah the timing would make sense if they are gathering resources for some other moves. but also wouldn't be surprised if they didn't bring anyone in, bb often does the opposite of what you'd expect

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 01:05 (six years ago) link

why does SF make this deal?

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:04 (six years ago) link

i support this fever dream

I’m totally 100 million billion katrillion percent all-in on getting Kaepernick as the Pats backup QB.

— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) October 31, 2017

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:06 (six years ago) link

SF desperately needs a QB. realistic options were, in likely order of attractiveness: cousins in the summer, jimmy g now, brissett (??) in the summer, the bad looking 2018 qb class. cousins is going to be a bidding war and will get way overpaid. he's more of a sure thing but jimmy has a higher ceiling for sure and starts next season with 10 months w/ kyle shan under his belt.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:12 (six years ago) link

ok ty. was not aware of weak draft class

ein Sexmonster (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 31 October 2017 02:18 (six years ago) link

qb controversy

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 1 November 2017 17:37 (six years ago) link

Lynch says, “ok if Garoppolo is off-limits would you trade us Brady?” Belichick to paraphrase (replied) “hold on, did you REALLY just ask me if I would trade Tom Brady?” Lynch persisted and an amused Belichick kept asking “did you really just ask that?”

would like to believe any of this was true

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

wentz!!

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

Wentz is must watch at this point

Spottie, Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

whoops wrong thread

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 November 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

Ilnfl needs to just do one reg season thread imo

Spottie, Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link

ive tried to tell them but theyre addicted to their weekly thread titling lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:16 (six years ago) link

Shame

Spottie, Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link

ILH will take over, next week we can make a second half thread

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

if anyone objects we will explain that basketball actually is better and we're here to help

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link

who is "them"?? last time i brought it up ppl were adamant that we keep the weekly threads. mind you, the same ppl prob don't even post on nfl threads any more so...

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

Lmao Kev otm

Spottie, Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

would boycott any nfl thread made by k3v. even if it is just me posting on the rival thread that would be m/l the same experience.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 November 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link

who is "them"??

― Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, November 5, 2017 2:20 PM (forty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it was you!!

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:03 (six years ago) link

feel like we don't have enough volume to justify weekly threads anymore

― Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, September 7, 2016 4:12 PM (one year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

im glad youve come around but lets not pretend u didnt run in fear from my visionary leadership

lag∞n, Sunday, 5 November 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

marty b is back! somehow made it past another 28 teams teams on waivers. i guess not everyone wants to make room on the roster for an injured TE.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 9 November 2017 21:23 (six years ago) link

thinking after the game yday that the pats have quietly developed one of the best interior OL units in the league, shoring up the place where they have most successfully been attacked all the way back to first NYG super bowl. mason-andrews-thuney all look p strong per PFF metrics and you can see in game that the trouble they have had this season, when they have had it (noticeably not so much in the last few games) has been from the edges, which brady can and does step up so well to deal with. i wonder if scheme wise they have sacrificed the edge a little to bolster the interior. even so, you'd like to see solder in particular not get badly owned one on one how he has been some times this season (altho dealing with some tough personal shit of course, hard to be too hard on him)

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 November 2017 16:08 (six years ago) link

Bringing back Dante Scarnecchia was a very good move

Moodles, Monday, 13 November 2017 17:07 (six years ago) link

cant you just see bill calling him up "dante, we need ya" heh

lag∞n, Monday, 13 November 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

classic scarnecchia

lag∞n, Monday, 13 November 2017 17:10 (six years ago) link

i know it's basically impossible given that there are only like 20 HCs in there even, but i would love to see him make the hall somehow.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 13 November 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

damn rip

lag∞n, Monday, 20 November 2017 15:56 (six years ago) link

:(

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:00 (six years ago) link

Caught Brady's first career td pass

omar little, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:03 (six years ago) link

"suspected motor vehicle accident" is a weird turn of phrase from the medical examiner

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

Belichick: "Deep down inside, he was a good person with good intentions and a good heart. ... It's a sad day."

this is weird too! deep down? this just makes it sound like he was an asshole most of the time

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 20 November 2017 16:52 (six years ago) link

Shit, RIP Terry Glenn

Moodles, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 00:00 (six years ago) link

rip. one of the first guys i remember from following the pats.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 21 November 2017 01:35 (six years ago) link

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/27/16702858/tom-brady-instagram-tb-times-deep-dive-help-im-drowning

this is incredible journalism

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 27 November 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link

the jets one where he's fighting an evil new york crocodile hot tub salesman is something special

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 27 November 2017 16:27 (six years ago) link

tom is so weird, had that part of the big profile where he implies hes getting on top of his head injuries by playing brain stimulating video games floating around my mindstream for a while

lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

the best part is its framed as a criticism of people who arent healing their brains by force of will

lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:27 (six years ago) link

it's kind of embarrassing how tom brady is still the best qb in the game, I mean every year there's a fresh face who pops up with a new eye popping stat line (like wentz this year, maybe the MVP, best eagles qb since prodigal son nick foles obv) but there's brady with another boring 26/3 season, 68% completion zzz, 111 point something passer rating. I'm asleep just thinking about it.

omar little, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:41 (six years ago) link

him n bron are maybe the two greatest runs ever happening at the same time and everyone hates it lol

lag∞n, Monday, 27 November 2017 17:56 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPrYg1IWAAAc04G.jpg

always goofin

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 28 November 2017 03:48 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

cannon to IR is not great. addition of kenny britt is extremely underwhelming but who are you going to get at this stage of the season.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 13 December 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link

.@RobGronkowski is really, really, really good. #GoPats pic.twitter.com/cvt9j7FQyR

— New England Patriots (@Patriots) December 18, 2017

the point and laugh after the catch 💀

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Monday, 18 December 2017 02:38 (six years ago) link

love that jimmy garoppolo pulled off a perfect game-winning drive of his own minutes after brady did. respect.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 18 December 2017 04:40 (six years ago) link

you know you need 8 minutes of bill breaking down the end of the steelers game

http://www.patriots.com/video/2017/12/20/belichick-breakdown-top-plays-against-steelers

call all destroyer, Thursday, 21 December 2017 03:26 (six years ago) link

in this era we are truly #blessed with great coach bill content. love all the belestration.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 21 December 2017 11:36 (six years ago) link

Former #Steelers LB James Harrison is signing a 1 year contract with the #Patriots.

— Ian Rapoport (@FapSheet) December 26, 2017

lag∞n, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link

Trader after all Pittsburgh done for you

— James Ross (@Rossjames1998) December 26, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

weird sequence. steelers must've known the pats would pick him up. 100% fifth column, calling it now. tbh i admire the audacity.

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link

revenge for the blount double agent fiasco

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 03:15 (six years ago) link

brady on the injury report with achilles and shoulder now. falling to pieces as the season draws on. end could be much closer than it seemed at the start of the season. maybe it was only the threat of jimmy holding him together.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 29 December 2017 03:43 (six years ago) link

is gronk on the bench in bubble wrap or what..
and how all the miscues in the secondary still

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 31 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

lol @ entire foxboro crowd singing 'livin on a prayer' is bill making requests?

i went to a game at foxboro myself and it was all cheesy rock music all day w/heavy emphasis on 80s stadium rock, except for they seem to be into daft punk for some reason. terrible. washington's team might be disappointing on game day, but at least we have a go go drumline

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

they play livin on a prayer at every celtics game and have this clip of a fan doing a funny dance, its become a thing, maybe its spread to foxboro, great song tho dont get me wrong

lag∞n, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:43 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oSR8Gqn4qU

lag∞n, Sunday, 31 December 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link

this guy, dion lewis

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link

interesting the steelers just went ahead and rested roethlisberger when they still had a shot at the 1 seed

lag∞n, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

they really didn't tho, and i respect that they acknowledged that. meanwhile brady is still on the field for some reason.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link

this is like gronk getting injured on the fg block team, belichick's weird purism/bloodymindedness. his biggest leak as a coach,.

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

a tale of two organizations

lag∞n, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link

have to find a gif of jets player spiking the ball into pats guy helmet and dramatic flop

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

xp otoh could just be utter lack of respect for the browns, and i support that too

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:33 (six years ago) link

baffled that gronk is on the field yet they don't really try to get him the ball - don't get him that extra $$$$ contract incentive he's not far off

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

Maybe the greatest flop of all time pic.twitter.com/aBBSDjnnc6

— Pete Blackburn (@PeteBlackburn) December 31, 2017

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:34 (six years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUZr-7hFIsx/

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 31 December 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

A source with the Patriots tells me Bill Belichick ordered the field crew to place these thermometers inside the Jets tunnel so New York is reminded how cold it is. Mental warfare. #Patriots pic.twitter.com/I7IwcZQZXf

— Dianna Russini (@diannaESPN) December 31, 2017

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 31 December 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link

heh rude

lag∞n, Sunday, 31 December 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

there is no temperature @ which the jets win that game

johnny crunch, Sunday, 31 December 2017 21:17 (six years ago) link

romo was p funny the last few minutes

johnny crunch, Sunday, 31 December 2017 21:18 (six years ago) link

yeah, if they played that game on the surface of the sun the jets still lose and both teams are incinerated, except for
Tom Brady who remains unscathed go figure

brownie, Sunday, 31 December 2017 21:38 (six years ago) link

@bruceallen
Source: ESPN readying new hit piece on Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and Robert Kraft set to publish tomorrow morning at 8am. The topic will be a power struggle among the trio as to who deserves the most credit for the dynasty.

bart scott "can't wait"

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 5 January 2018 00:48 (six years ago) link

wow its sad to see such 3 such sexy people fight like this

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:51 (six years ago) link

The article claims that the rift is so severe many Patriots feel this is the last year together for the trio. Also that Brady went to Kraft to force Belichick to trade Jimmy G. ESPN is planning a full day of promotion tomorrow for the article and its author @SethWickersham

— Bruce Allen (@bruceallen) January 5, 2018

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:53 (six years ago) link

honestly, and i say this as a life long patriots fan, its wld be fn hilarious if they broke up over all three of them being insanely pompous success dads

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:58 (six years ago) link

like credit isnt even a real thing how are they keeping score here

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link

Is that guy a noteworthy Boston media guy? He's very pasty looking

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link

Are you guys upset about losing "jimmy g"

on bay area sports talk they say "jimmy g" now with a frequency that i find upsetting

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:01 (six years ago) link

jimmy g was seen as the successor to brady and it was shocking when he was traded, def got the feeling something was going on behind the scenes, some ppl r prob upset

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

and how can u not say jimmy g it sounds so right, like some suburban pasta chain with 12 locations throughout central massachusetts and northern connecticut

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:05 (six years ago) link

didn't they basically have to choose between jimmy g & brady cuz of the salary cap

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link

btw im just here for the drama

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link

tommy's been looking shaky recently

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:09 (six years ago) link

i dont really know the details since i dont follow football but yeah keeping jimmy g wldve cost them they wldve had to franchise him next year i think, but also belichick was quoted as saying "i can win with jimmy g" meaning post brady obvs

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:12 (six years ago) link

belichick obvs wld totally do something like cut brady in the offseason, and kraft and brady know that

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:13 (six years ago) link

it's cool that kraft is still dating that gal from the weird deadspin video

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 5 January 2018 01:14 (six years ago) link

the contours of this story feel more like brady and kraft vs belichick than a three way melee to me

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:14 (six years ago) link

with the main contention being bradys future with the team

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:15 (six years ago) link

a 3 way melee doesn't quite make sense anyway cuz it's not like kraft is gonna sell the team. so it's either brady or belichick.

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link

yeah the way the tweet is phrased it doesnt really make sense tho i guess i cld see all of them just being sick of each others odious shit

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:18 (six years ago) link

picking a 40 year old player over the greatest coach of all time would be really stupid but also a guy like belichick could more easily just wear on people over time & i could see him getting pushed out even tho it would be the end of the pats dynasty as we know it

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:18 (six years ago) link

kraft i cld def see letting sentimentality over wanting to see brady retire a patriot sway him, and its not even that big of a deal youd have a year or two of him playing crappy/being injured then hed give up and hopefully u have a young quaterback ready to go, this of course is unacceptable to belichicks reptilian brain

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:21 (six years ago) link

it's never even occurred to me that belichick would coach even for a minute after brady retired

fact checking cuz, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:27 (six years ago) link

and shedding jimmy g was bizarre, but not out-of-proportion bizarre compared to shedding chandler jones or jamie collins or anyone else they're shedded during the brady and beli years.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:30 (six years ago) link

i think it seemed especially bizarre just from the pov that belicheck viewed jimmy g as bradys successor

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:34 (six years ago) link

a QB of jimmy g's caliber if he's really this good is not usually replaceable

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:53 (six years ago) link

the chances of them getting someone better after brady leaves are not very high i don't think

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 01:54 (six years ago) link

ya prob not

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:56 (six years ago) link

tho i can totally understand wanting brady to retire as a patriot, it matters as far as the whole concept of ~a dynasty~

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

Is that guy a noteworthy Boston media guy? He's very pasty looking

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:00 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he runs a boston sports media blog, not really notable but a little connected

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link

the contours of this story feel more like brady and kraft vs belichick than a three way melee to me

― lag∞n, Thursday, January 4, 2018 8:14 PM (forty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

as a reluctant close observer of this mess this is otm; kraft helped brady buy his f'n house and i think it would break whatever heart bob has to see brady end his career someplace else. unfortunately brady is also delusional.

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link

the funniest thing about this is pats fans, esp. "rational" ones, being in complete denial that it could possibly be true.

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

its true that brady thinking he has power over time itself is very key to this situation

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:11 (six years ago) link

so brady is whiterose?

fact checking cuz, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:14 (six years ago) link

i understand how much ppl would like there to be a story here, but it's a bit weird no one yet has mentioned how extremely dumb this sounds

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:21 (six years ago) link

also - poly, wait until jimmy gets a social media team behind 'jimmy gq', you'll be longing for the jimmy g days

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:22 (six years ago) link

brady to be fair is still really good tho no

k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link

xps

k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 02:25 (six years ago) link

oh there's 100% a story here

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link

what do you mean?

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:32 (six years ago) link

anyway, on the trade, brady was playing his best football when they moved jimmy. there's really nothing to be explained about why the trade happened. of course, since then he is on the injury report with 2 different things and is probably suddenly, finally, cataclysmically breaking down, so given a do-over i'd vote for keeping jimmy and sending tom to the browns

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:32 (six years ago) link

i don't think bill wanted to trade jimmy and i think he was given a mandate to do so. it may be that simple, or there may be other stuff too, but there's way too much smoke for it to be nothing.

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:36 (six years ago) link

seth wickersham is pretty connected. greg bedard, who is not in the clickbait business, has repeatedly implied that he knows something along these lines.

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:39 (six years ago) link

idk stupider things have happened with this football team but it doesn't sound plausible at all to me. doesn't line up at all with the story about belichick clowning john lynch in the summer for inquiring after brady's availability. the trade part is thin and the fight over the dynasty is dumb as hell. we'll see i guess.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 02:43 (six years ago) link

i know! i'm just telling you something is going on. i also don't think the trade is that clear-cut. trading brissett, then trading jimmy, and getting a bad receiver, a 2nd, and brian hoyer when you're trying to win a super bowl is an odd use of resources.

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link

well we will see "competition over who gets credit" certainly doesnt sound very interesting but maybe there will be ~details~

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link

oraying for quality drama

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 03:35 (six years ago) link

trading brissett, then trading jimmy, and getting a bad receiver, a 2nd, and brian hoyer when you're trying to win a super bowl is an odd use of resources.

otm. then again, BB has a history of making strange, eyebrow-raising personnel moves that somehow end up working out almost always. he's earned the benefit of a million doubts. and yet, two months after the last domino fell in that string of moves, it remains completely unclear what the upside is, while the downside remains rather obvious. but still, it's BB, so.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 5 January 2018 03:50 (six years ago) link

bill made his rep as a personnel guy by moving players before anyone saw their decline coming. how do you think he feels about tom?

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link

no one yet has mentioned how extremely dumb this sounds

humans doing dumb things is kind of inevitable.

and remember, this is all about American football, where very large men hurl themselves into one another repeatedly in an effort to advance a pig's bladder a few feet forward, while pretending it is the most serious business imaginable.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 5 January 2018 04:01 (six years ago) link

im watching sportscenter right now and wickersham is on here saying that brady used kraft to get jimmy g traded

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:07 (six years ago) link

and that the quack trainer is splitting the team apart

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:08 (six years ago) link

the pats dynasty getting broken apart because of a goop-esque quack doctor would be the funniest possible ending

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:10 (six years ago) link

This is all pretty surprising if true I mean BB and Brady have been riding high together for 17(!) seasons.

omar little, Friday, 5 January 2018 06:17 (six years ago) link

yesssss bring the drama!

Spottie, Friday, 5 January 2018 06:40 (six years ago) link

brady is becoming a cult member

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:46 (six years ago) link

he's tom cruise and scientology

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 06:46 (six years ago) link

The Boston Sports Journal would report on another player who was told by Patriots trainers to do squats but later instructed by Guerrero to not do them. Brady would tell teammates, "Bill's answer to everything is to lift more weights" -- a claim that many staffers and players felt was unfair, given the team's dedication to soft-tissue science and a healthy diet.

anyone who knows me knows I am fucking dedicated to soft tissue science motherfucker

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 5 January 2018 07:08 (six years ago) link

so the Guerrero stuff is the actual substance in the article. even if we can't necessarily have much confidence in the additional colour provided, enough key elements are already established to make it evident that he is yokoing the joint.

most everything else is p embarrassing fluff, and some of it is really quite stupid. idk how anyone can read that drafting jimmy was some key strategic change of tack for belichick and then feel good about all the rest of the conjecture. The wilful effort to totally fail to understand the trade in order to create a story vaccuum is exceptional work.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 12:42 (six years ago) link

Patriots fans in denial of their figureheads being ....... some messy bitches

#tb12

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

how are they willfully misunderstanding the trade

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link

Mike Glennon got 15 mill this off-season and bill let him go for a 2nd rounder?

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 12:55 (six years ago) link

not sure those things are related in the way you want them to be but ok.

pats like jimmy as the qb after brady. however, brady is still going strong, and they have to make a decision on jimmy for 2018 when his contract is up. #1 they see if they can possibly keep both for a couple more years by having jimmy sign a deal that they can manage alongside brady but way less then the FA deal he would get, with the incentive being he gets the keys to the limo if he sticks around. jimmy says no. so coming into 2017 season, pats know that after this year, they can only have one of jimmy or brady. that offseason is the optimum time to trade jimmy for value, but pats reasonably decide that the most value is in holding onto him into the season in case brady hits a wall. by the time the trade deadline approaches, brady is having an mvp year and shows no sign of slowing down. this is the last possible opportunity to trade jimmy for anything at all, so the pats have absolutely zero leverage, and they still get a pick at the top of the 2nd round, m/l equivalent to another 1st round pick for them.

there isn't a giant hole in the story that needs filling in with intrigue, no matter how much we may dearly, credulously want there to be.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 13:23 (six years ago) link

also, ppl talking about jimmy being a sure thing, but he's still not quite that now and there were even more questions back then, i was talking ppl into him at the time.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 13:25 (six years ago) link

bedard confirming most of it, denying brady pushed for trade (sorry for long c/p but i think it's paywalled):

Here’s what I have learned about how things have gone down in Foxborough, and how tenuous the future is — if it is at all:

*Tom Brady knows what is going on around him — now more than ever — as he has always had a fear he would be traded by Bill Belichick. The team’s decision to not trade Jimmy Garoppolo this past offseason, when his demand would have been highest, agitated Brady.

*Meanwhile, Brady’s rumored contract extension after last year’s Super Bowl has not materialized, meaning Brady’s cap numbers is set to jump from $14 million (8.4 percent of the team’s cap) to $22 million (12.4 percent) the next two seasons. Without an extension, Brady’s contract is now easily traded or terminated.

*The reason Brady was at such a discount through this season is because Brady and Kraft came to an agreement that he would take up less of the cap going forward to secure his place with the team. If Brady didn’t, Kraft couldn’t predict the future. From my MMQB piece in May 2015:
Right now, according to Spotrac, the Patriots are due to rank 16th, 15th and 20th the next three years, respectively, in the percentage of cap spent on quarterbacks thanks to Brady’s team-friendly contract. That is not an accident. After losing the 2012 AFC Championship Game to the Ravens, Kraft told Brady on a shared flight to California that if he wanted to get paid what he’s worth in a year or two, it probably wasn’t going to be tenable for the team. The Patriots did not want to pay 18 percent of their cap to a quarterback (as they were at the time), even one as great as Brady. Kraft told Brady that he was basically going to have to play at half price, which he will do from this year through the end of the contract in ’17 (it was extended in March 2016), to help the team give him the supporting cast to win championships and enhance his legacy. Brady thought about it, and agreed. The extension was announced in late February 2013. Also keep in mind that, also to help the team, Brady has never maximized the guaranteed money in his contract.

*Sometime in September, right around the time Brady fitness guru Alex Guerrero and Brady were launching their TB12 Method book, Belichick sent word to Guerrero that he would have the same access to members of the team not named Brady as other personal fitness personnel, and that meant no more team flights and sideline access. Again, this did not sit well with Brady.

*Put all of those things together — Garoppolo, the contract and Guerrero — and Brady was edgy. He wondered, after all he had done for the Patriots, why was his place on the team for 2018 not totally secure (at least in his mind)? Brady started to get in Kraft’s ear about it. Repeatedly. All the evidence was telling Brady that Belichick intended to trade him after the season and go with Garoppolo. Brady wanted to know where the security and loyalty was? He took less money and that enabled them to win two of the past three Super Bowls, and were favorites to make it three in four years? Why, considering all that, did Brady not have any assurances of being on the Patriots in ’18?

*Brady never said or hinted about wanting Garoppolo traded. Didn’t happen. Brady just wanted some assurances of his future.

*As the trade deadline neared, and Brady playing some of the best ball of his career and looking like an MVP candidate — he obviously wasn’t looking like a 40-year-old QB as Belichick feared — Kraft decided to demonstrate his loyalty to Brady and told Belichick to trade Garoppolo. If Belichick wasn’t going to do the contract extension, or tell Brady of his plan with Garoppolo, then Kraft was going to do what was in his power to make his favorite player more comfortable.

*Belichick wasn’t happy about it — he believed Garoppolo was the QB to lead the Patriots long after he was retired — and he begrudgingly traded Garoppolo. He did not seek out offers or the highest value. He respects Garoppolo, wanted to give him a chance to succeed, so he left a message for Kyle Shanahan, whom Belichick thought a lot of, to call him the next day, Oct. 30 (date of the trade deadline). The deal was done for a second-round pick with little discussion.

*The truth is, Belichick had no plans of trading Brady and sticking with Garoppolo. He just wanted to take all the time he could before making a decision, which was likely going to be to tag Garoppolo and then trade him, if Garoppolo didn’t agree to another attempt at a bridge deal. Belichick had no idea if Brady was going to suffer a major injury down the stretch or in the postseason. Brady could get into a car accident on Feb. 25, for all Belichick knew. Belichick doesn’t try to predict the future. He was going to keep Garoppolo as long as he could, and if Brady was still playing like he was 30, a decision would have to be made. Belichick was not going to trade Brady if he was playing like the MVP and champion of three of the past four Super Bowls. No way.

*Now, if Brady struggled down the stretch, and then looked like Brett Favre in the 2007 NFC Championship Game … all bets were off. Again, as much time as possible to make a decision…

*So Belichick, Brady and Kraft were all unhappy in some respect. Someone broached the subject of a meeting to get all three back on the same page before the first Miami game. It never happened, and it’s not known if the meeting has happened since.

*As far as I have been told, that’s the extent of the situation. All three are irritated to some degree — Belichick about Garoppolo and Kraft’s meddling in football, Brady on Guerrero and his contract, and Kraft about the whole thing (although he’s more like Switzerland in all this) — but no one I’ve spoken with thinks this thing is driving towards a cliff. Belichick is not likely going anywhere, but his solo counsel approach leads to speculation in the building. He will get over it and start finding the next Garoppolo. Brady, who currently has no desire to do another deal to help the team, will keep working like he always does. Kraft will go back to minding his own business.

*No one I’ve spoken with thinks this situation comes close to derailing this season. It’s not Armageddon, and everyone is still a professional at the end of the day.

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 13:35 (six years ago) link

so Robert you're saying this is just ESPN making up "fake news"

Two weeks before the Nov. 1 trading deadline, Belichick met with Kraft to discuss the quarterback situation. According to staffers, the meeting ran long, lasting half the day and pushing back Belichick's other meetings. The office was buzzing. The meeting ended with a clear mandate to Belichick: trade Garoppolo because he would not be in the team's long-term plans, and then, once again, find the best quarterback in the draft and develop him. Belichick was furious and demoralized, according to friends. But in the end, he did what he asks of his players and coaches: He did his job.

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 13:37 (six years ago) link

yes, i need more to be convinced of the idea that belichick was "forced" to make a trade that made perfect sense and was v much in line with his previous trade strategy in general and qb development/trade strategy specifically.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 13:43 (six years ago) link

so you don't think that he would have preferred to wait until after this year when he could have tagged jimmy, tried to sign him to a contract (longshot admittedly) or at worst trade him under the tag? do you find it a little bit interesting that he didn't solicit offers or call anyone but the niners?

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 13:50 (six years ago) link

trading under the tag gives them even less leverage because everyone knows they can't keep him on the books, and of course it burns the tag. idk about the detail on how the offer went down, it is interesting and at least plausible. but it still doesn't follow that if that part is entirely accurate then it somehow indicates bill's hand was forced.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 14:01 (six years ago) link

yeah i mean if you tagged him you would have so little leverage you might have to let a top young qb prospect go for a second round draft pick or something like that!

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 14:10 (six years ago) link

"They were disappointed," Reiss said of the fans' reaction to sending Cassel and Vrabel to KC for a second round pick. "They had visions of maybe a first round pick, multiple firsts. They were disappointed it was only a second round pick. They thought it was a fleece job.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

that was a decade ago the market has changed considerably imo

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 14:22 (six years ago) link

@AdamSchefter Reports breaking from Foxboro that #Patriots star Tom Brady was so upset at not being named player of the week by coach Bill Belichick that he reportedly left an "upper decker" in the toilet of Belichick's private bathroom in the team facilities...more to come

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 14:57 (six years ago) link

lmao brady and his grifter trainer

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 15:02 (six years ago) link

quit talking greasy or u gonna get snuffed by soft tissue goons #tb12mobb

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 5 January 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link

it seems entirely plausible if not likely to me that brady viewed this season as an inflection point in which the pats had to choose him or jimmy g moving forward and so he went to kraft and said "if it's me then trade him"

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link

this feels like a bad plot from a basic cable show season 8 episode. The grifter trainer as the big bad vs overall series villain.

omar little, Friday, 5 January 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

a complicating factor of the trade is i'm still unclear exactly how teams are supposed to know how good another team's back up QB is... i doubt they're judging just on the 4 games he played when brady was suspended and some preseason games. there must be some teams that have intel on the quality of certain teams back ups based on which circles of gossip they're privy too, so i dunno if there existed an open trade market for jimmy the way it would for a player who people had actually seen play like more than 5 games of pro football before.

but i think by all reports they turned down way more for jimmy at other points. the cassell comparison doesn't really hold for me bcuz i'm sure the pats knew they were getting a steal with that one and were getting ripped off with this one.

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

also... what a coincidence that brady has been borderline awful in december... it's almost as if he knew he was hanging on by a thread and if BB saw the conclusion to this season he'd choose jimmy...

J0rdan S., Friday, 5 January 2018 15:36 (six years ago) link

I don't really care much about messy Pats drama but I will read about Brady's quack trainer all day, I love him

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2018 15:43 (six years ago) link

reading between some lines here but i think the quack trainer was very likely the source for brady's various grievances in the piece.

call all destroyer, Friday, 5 January 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DSye9hhV4AA039X.jpg

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link

well that's settled

omar little, Friday, 5 January 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link

its a fallacy

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link

THIS WHOLE SCENE IS FUCKING FALLACIOUS MAN

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

i know people crave Patriots schadenfreude real bad but c'mon, both Brady and Belichick likely only have two years left (at most), Kraft is like 80. they've all been together for like two decades and they have five Super Bowls. "is this the beginning of the end"....come on folks.

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2018 16:58 (six years ago) link

the thing you dont understand is they need this more than we do

lag∞n, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:05 (six years ago) link

brady is going to lose his shit when he sees he was listed third on the official statement

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

I had never actually seen a picture of Jimmy G. before, holy shit

frogbs, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:21 (six years ago) link

Brady has noted to staff a few times this year that, no matter how many game-changing throws he makes, Belichick hasn't awarded him Patriot of the Week all year.

lol

, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link

TS: TB12 vs. Goop

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:40 (six years ago) link

the bb/tb dynamic is 100% football dad withholds approval and little tom tries even harder for it

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:51 (six years ago) link

this is not quite as juicy as I was hoping for

k3vin k., Friday, 5 January 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link

put on espn nfl show b/c randy moss <3 and they're STILL talking about this story.

i have a sub to bedard's boston sports site as well & pretty much believe his take on it - everybody has a point, they'll figure it out, belichick gets paid $$ to find and draft the next guy up because the timing didn't work out on keeping jimmy g.

i thought one of the important points was, since belichick doesn't tell ANYONE what he's planning to do there's rampant speculation and lots of ppl on edge in the organization.

and i get why brady would be upset since he's obvs hyper aware that bill will trade anyone with no warning and that his contract's cap hit next season without a restructure/renewal is more than the team would want to pay.

the thing about guerrero vs the pats trainers.. ok guerrero is seen as a whack job by a lot of people now but i also wonder.. from following this team closely for the past ten years, wasn't there a huge issue with brady's ACL recovery after effectively following team instructions and it didn't go well? and this NYT article from a couple years ago said brady had some other issue back around 05/06 and the team told him to go have a tendon cut to relieve pain (!). just kind of wonder if the team's trainers (ie most/all nfl trainers) tend to give direction that the way they've always done it, but maybe not in the long term interests of the player.

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link

i believe in my heart that bill was planning on trading brady in the offseason and he considered it the culmination of his career and greatest accomplishment

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:43 (six years ago) link

and the breakup rumors are true because brady sniffed out the plan and outmaneuvered bill which is the greatest insult imaginable

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 17:44 (six years ago) link

bill simmons had an interesting pod with francesca about this...bill sort of falls somewhere in the middle. his thing is he finds it hard to believe that belichick would ever take that order from kraft, or that kraft would actually issue it

k3vin k., Sunday, 7 January 2018 18:57 (six years ago) link

thank you for listening to bill simmons so i don't have to :)

just saw a tv ad for "12 Strong" & every time an action movie comes out around the playoffs i'm like, is this the annual mark wahlberg us vs everybody movie for the pats team outing

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 7 January 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

hard to believe that belichick would ever take that order from kraft, or that kraft would actually issue it

easy for me to believe that belichick would be made to understand what kraft wanted without literally being told. an order delivered with plausible deniability for all. deniable not only to the outside world, but even to themselves.

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 7 January 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link

idk why its hard to imagine kraft saying brady is retiring a patriot and thats that he does own the team

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 21:58 (six years ago) link

yeah i believe it's much more likely kraft said "brady is a retiring a patriot" than "trade jimmy" even if the end result is the same.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:17 (six years ago) link

i support brady retiring a pat and also he shd do it within the next year or two prob

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link

although as long as hes playing good.....

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:30 (six years ago) link

it wld be pretty incredible from a decline of american football perspective if he got caught juicing after all this

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link

If youre good they let you do it

Hunt3r, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:35 (six years ago) link

feels like there's no incentive for anyone to really looking into juicing in football but if they did brady would be a good place to start

call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:37 (six years ago) link

man hes just using muscle elongation

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:38 (six years ago) link

tbqh considering the strain football puts on the body itd make sense to allow some juicing for recovery purposes

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:40 (six years ago) link

def

call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:41 (six years ago) link

supervised juicing

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:42 (six years ago) link

we can call it "sprucing" just to eliminate bad connotations

call all destroyer, Sunday, 7 January 2018 23:49 (six years ago) link

i have no idea what i'm watching

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 January 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link

i have no idea what i'm watching

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 January 2018 00:18 (six years ago) link

http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2018/01/sean_harrington_patriots_engin_1.html

this is ultimately thin on substance but p interesting nonetheless, about the software engineer in NE's personnel dept and automating player and charting data collection

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 8 January 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTGvz5hXcAE4eGM.jpg

these sleeves man. this guy is just an incredible troll. amazing

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 16:27 (six years ago) link

sexi man

lag∞n, Tuesday, 9 January 2018 16:29 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTRJN80WAAAKk50.jpg

excerpt from PFF's new 'qb annual'. would love to see the rest of this and i like PFF a lot but i have a cherished internet policy of parasitism and i try to never pay for any content

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 11 January 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link

thinking abt it, i support 2 patreons, pay a sub for a gdamn rss reader, and contributed to the last ilx drive so i am actually among online's foremost philanthropists but i am still not paying for a sports website.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 11 January 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

i paid for a year of greg bedard's site, more because i want to see that model succeed than because i'm dying for content.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 11 January 2018 15:46 (six years ago) link

lol wtf if that scaling

sort of feel like if you’re going to come up with a QB metric you better make sure brady was #1 in at least a few seasons in his 20s and 30s before you unveil it

k3vin k., Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:23 (six years ago) link

PFF isn't the definitive word but I like it a lot alongside other stats. in a sport that understands its own data so poorly i think a measure based on grading play-by-play performance is super valuable, even with caveats. football has to be the hardest sport to separate what we notice is happening from the full picture of what is actually happening

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 11 January 2018 18:49 (six years ago) link

Congrats to Tom Brady on being picked as Patriots Player of the Week, what an incredible journey

Keak da Sneaky Dianne (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 14 January 2018 16:14 (six years ago) link

non-td call on the field was appalling

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:31 (six years ago) link

rong

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 14 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

Are you arguing with yourself?

Moodles, Sunday, 14 January 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

lol i meant rong thread, i reposted on the playoffs thread

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 14 January 2018 21:48 (six years ago) link

Matt Patricia talking through the key plays in the Patriots Super Bowl win over Atlanta. pic.twitter.com/eLDiNVYj5Z

— James Light (@JamesALight) January 18, 2018

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:59 (six years ago) link

whenever I see that dude I keep thinking Ebro in the Morning got a coaching job

bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 January 2018 16:59 (six years ago) link

great play 4 sure

lag∞n, Monday, 22 January 2018 03:32 (six years ago) link

underthrown tbphwu

trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Monday, 22 January 2018 04:35 (six years ago) link

Your own piece of the celebration!

RT to enter to win AFC Championship confetti from the @GilletteStadium turf.

Rules: https://t.co/Uuiuiwg6cW pic.twitter.com/OYaLYVo5lv

— New England Patriots (@Patriots) January 22, 2018

x-post with shit that looks like an onion article?

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 January 2018 16:31 (six years ago) link

An AFC Championship gif. pic.twitter.com/5yhSBBQ8Go

— New England Patriots (@Patriots) January 23, 2018

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 01:07 (six years ago) link

https://www.facebook.com/tomvstime/

this has some kind of interesting glimpses if you can bear to watch it

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 25 January 2018 23:50 (six years ago) link

it was way better than i thought it would be

call all destroyer, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:23 (six years ago) link

my favorite part was him sulking after kc, i'm surprised they put that in

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 26 January 2018 03:44 (six years ago) link

respect to gisele in that segment, she was otm

call all destroyer, Friday, 26 January 2018 04:05 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUgkXy9V4AASQQi.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Saturday, 27 January 2018 01:13 (six years ago) link

“We used to always mess with Hernandez when we were on the field and say, ‘Hey man I heard they found the body,'” Scott said. “And we thought it was a joke because we knew something had happened in Florida. So the whole running joke was hey I heard they found the body. Like we all knew he was a bad guy, there had been stories floating around this guy for years.”

https://nesn.com/2018/01/bart-scott-reveals-chilling-taunt-nfl-players-said-to-aaron-hernandez/

earlnash, Saturday, 27 January 2018 06:44 (six years ago) link

lol bold

lag∞n, Saturday, 27 January 2018 14:51 (six years ago) link

wow dont f w lil brady

Tom Brady cuts his weekly interview short on WEEI, saying he was disappointed to hear of news that host Alex Reimer made a disparaging remark about his daughter when discussing the "Tom vs. Time" documentary. Brady said he is evaluating if he wants to be on the show again.

— Mike Reiss (@MikeReiss) January 29, 2018

An inside source at WEEI has confirmed that Alex Reimer has been fired for inappropriate comments about Tom Brady's daughter.

— Rob Harrington (@bharrington5585) January 29, 2018

On WEEI’s “Kirk & Callahan,” on Monday, Brady called out the station for comments made the preceding Thursday by host Alex Reimer about Brady’s daughter, Vivian, and her appearance in the documentary, “Tom vs. Time.” On air, Reimer referred to her as an “annoying little pissant.”

lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:42 (six years ago) link

whatever else you think about the comment itself it was a powerful career move by this guy

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 January 2018 15:55 (six years ago) link

i wonder if he knew as soon as the words left his mouth

lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

btw been meaning to say "the patriots shd go back to those ridiculous elvis shoulder uniforms"

lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:24 (six years ago) link

agreed. the 90s were a real boom time for pats uniforms.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:38 (six years ago) link

whoever thought up red numbers with blue drop shadows is truly insane and a genius

lag∞n, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link

i think reimer was suspended not fired. i had never heard of the guy before this so, uh, good job i guess?

call all destroyer, Monday, 29 January 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

lol

Tom Brady knows zero about pop culture pic.twitter.com/mAIsLULV6f

— Sports Illustrated (@SInow) January 30, 2018

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 16:33 (six years ago) link

idk I kinda believe Brady when he says he does nothing but think about football. probably would eat a football for breakfast if you gave him one

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

uhh tom does NOT eat red meat

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:15 (six years ago) link

Somewhere the oil painting of himself that Tom Brady keeps just developed a tear.

earlnash, Monday, 5 February 2018 05:12 (six years ago) link

Vs. the AFC East: 66-20 (.767)
Superbowl's 5-3 (.600)

earlnash, Monday, 5 February 2018 05:36 (six years ago) link

It's a ridiculous amount of championship game apperances, you got to compare it more to Yankee guys like Yogi Berra or someone like Bill Russell on the Celtics.

earlnash, Monday, 5 February 2018 05:38 (six years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVQJzXzWsAA-17s.jpg

this is...something

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 5 February 2018 13:48 (six years ago) link

I just came here to post this actually https://deadspin.com/where-the-hell-was-malcolm-butler-1822718154

El Tomboto, Monday, 5 February 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

https://78.media.tumblr.com/2c23f751a3d236a10ed837c0e478e74e/tumblr_inline_odkuxrkmhY1smjcyz_540.png

we should poll who's the bigger psycho, tom brady or kobe

, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link

Bill Belichick is probably the only coach in the league who could bench a guy like Butler for mysterious reasons, give up 41 points to a backup QB in a Super Bowl, and not have it become the biggest story of the offseason

frogbs, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 14:27 (six years ago) link

kobes the bigger psycho, but the tom vs time - vs - the kobe musecage is a nice parallel def

johnny crunch, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 14:49 (six years ago) link

tbf coffee tastes bad

mookieproof, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:21 (six years ago) link

rude

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:35 (six years ago) link

having a tasty cof right now

omar little, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:39 (six years ago) link

same

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

I've never had a coffee

k3vin k., Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:18 (six years ago) link

coffee is a lie that ppl tell themselves

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 6 February 2018 17:20 (six years ago) link

wtf shades of belichick

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:16 (six years ago) link

it’s OK folks I don’t like peanuts, everybody’s got a thing they can’t do BUT I TRIED

maybe Brady’s on to something just focus down on whole grain organic kaleoili sandwiches and only think about football and read nothing but playbooks and you, too, can dominate everyone except Eli and Nick Foles

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:24 (six years ago) link

& frogbs otm but I mean that in a RESPECT way not like yeah, see

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:27 (six years ago) link

Stunner: Patriots’ OC Josh McDaniels has decided NOT to accept Colts’ HC job and will remain with New England, sources told ESPN.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) February 7, 2018

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 03:28 (six years ago) link

eagerly awaiting stunner #2, in which the 49ers announce a long-term deal with jimmy g and then he changes his mind and re-signs w/the patriots and, on the side, becomes a commercial spokesman for tb12.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 04:35 (six years ago) link

Do you really want to be the guy to follow Belichick?

earlnash, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:00 (six years ago) link

lol yeah belichick and brady leaving the building on the same day is gonna be the fn apocalypse

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

tho... what if beli moved to a front office role

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

the real worst case scenario

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:18 (six years ago) link

imagine being HC and having that guy back seat driving

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:19 (six years ago) link

tbh i am 99% certain when belichick quits he'll climb aboard the recently rechristened 'still vii rings' and disappear

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 18:22 (six years ago) link

you're probably losing Gronk that day too

frogbs, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

gronk currently acting like he might never play another down

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 February 2018 19:05 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

hey guys i wasn't really feeling like stopping by for a while though I'm more upset about the malcolm butler situation than the SB! what the hell.

i see the gronk drama is still going on too.

always think in the offseason this is the year i'm done with nfl but tbh i'm probably going to continue stressing over the pats & also jump on the niners bandwagon for my nfc team

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 4 March 2018 19:20 (six years ago) link

thought you were a washington fan?

k3vin k., Sunday, 4 March 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link

#Patriots WR Kenny Britt was informed that his option was picked up, source said. He’s back for 2018 and they’re looking for big things out of him.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) March 6, 2018

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 6 March 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady said the team's loss in Super Bowl LII provided a springboard to teach his children a valuable lesson.

As part of a preview clip from the final episode of the "Tom vs. Time" docuseries released to ABC's "Good Morning America," Brady said, "That was the first time that I'd seen my kids really react in that way."

"You know, Benny was crying, Vivi was crying and they were sad for me and sad for the Patriots," he said. "But I just said to them, 'Look, you guys, this is a great lesson. We don't always win. We try our best and sometimes it doesn't go the way we want.'"

omar little, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 17:03 (six years ago) link

inevitable bummer: dola's going. miami of all places. 2 yrs, 12m, 8.25 guaranteed

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:26 (six years ago) link

and malcolm butler to tennessee. happy he's finally getting his money tbh.

thought you were a washington fan?

i am and i'll prob go to a couple of their games next season but they are just going to keep mismanaging players and going 7-9 for the next 10 years imo. i need a fun team

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:00 (six years ago) link

dion lewis also going to tenn. they're piling up some decent players

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link

ny football giants making nate solder the highest paid tackle in football. not great for the pats, possibly worse for the giants?

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:28 (six years ago) link

4y, 62m, 35m guar

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 14 March 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZ5RKrIWkAAhjR8.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 4 April 2018 02:06 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

trying to figure out where the angle is on this story that suddenly popped up about how brady might retire. the guy is obsessed and talks at tedious length and frequency about how he wants to play forever, and will clearly play until he breaks or isn't wanted any more. so entirely unconvincing but the story has come up for some reason. makes me one degree more receptive to all of the conspiracy theory level stuff about tb/bb/rk weirdness. probably all leads back to guerrero, fuck that dude.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 12:45 (six years ago) link

well he's probably getting slapped with another 4-game suspension for threatening Stormy Daniels so you have to wonder if its worth it at this point

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 12:49 (six years ago) link

lol. i think brady turning out to actually be the stormy daniels guy is what this ailing nation needs right now.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 18 April 2018 12:54 (six years ago) link

Brady comes off like a total weirdo in the few articles I have read about him and his fitness guru buddy.

I could deal with the Pats continue to win if Brady were to retire. I'd love to see some air taken out of those tires.

earlnash, Thursday, 19 April 2018 23:54 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

edelman four-game suspension, performance enhancing substances

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

equivalent to deflating a ball agree

they call me melo gelo (Spottie), Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:44 (five years ago) link

team should forfeit a first round pick tho

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

straw poll: will a PED revelation prove to be the final nail in the coffin of brady's legacy? edelman is a big tb12 system acolyte, this def feels like a step closer to the big man.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:49 (five years ago) link

shocking news

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 June 2018 17:58 (five years ago) link

Is this related to his injury and recovery?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:09 (five years ago) link

no specifics yet but makes sense

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 June 2018 18:12 (five years ago) link

the final nail in the coffin of brady's legacy

have there been other nails? actual legacy-damaging nails?

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

Besides the fact that his hands are too small to throw a fully inflated football?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

i am p sure a majority of average sports fans (erroneously) think brady is a confirmed Cheater

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 7 June 2018 20:39 (five years ago) link

Bingo

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 7 June 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

also he wore uggs

sprout god (lag∞n), Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

did he not Cheat on his pregnant girlfriend

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 June 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

theyre sayin gronks on the move goddamn

sprout god (lag∞n), Friday, 8 June 2018 20:03 (five years ago) link

the trade rumours were debunked no more than half an hour after they started. i've never seen such a quick turnaround. probably means he is definitely not going anywhere, may mean he is definitely going somewhere.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 8 June 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/8/9/17670364/new-england-patriots-2008-season-tom-brady-injury-matt-cassel-bill-belichick

shame this isn't more substantial but what there is is good

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 9 August 2018 17:01 (five years ago) link

📹 CLASSIC Bill Belichick halftime interview with @STEVEBURTONWBZ #Patriots #WBZ pic.twitter.com/GCvGDtLc1o

— Joe Giza (@JoeGiza) August 10, 2018

he's ready

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 10 August 2018 01:27 (five years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Let's gooooooooo!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

GRONK SPIKE

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:33 (five years ago) link

do.. do we have a pass rush?? what is this

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:42 (five years ago) link

Patterson is nice

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 September 2018 17:53 (five years ago) link

Sorry Gronk, that wasn't a catch. Houston screwed up by not challenging.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 September 2018 18:29 (five years ago) link

Terrible coaching by Houston

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 September 2018 18:34 (five years ago) link

Jeez, Gronk, protect the ball.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 September 2018 18:55 (five years ago) link

only in new england - 12 guys on the field and the other team false starts

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 9 September 2018 19:20 (five years ago) link

Why is that not offsetting penalties?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 September 2018 19:23 (five years ago) link

This has been a weird game. Both teams need to tighten up.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 9 September 2018 19:53 (five years ago) link

Being forced to watch this

Just want my sammy and beer :-(

F# A# (∞), Sunday, 9 September 2018 19:55 (five years ago) link

belichick has to be so happy now

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:11 (five years ago) link

that was kind of necessary roughness imo

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 9 September 2018 20:12 (five years ago) link

Kicking off 2018 with a few friends. #GoPats | #HOUvsNE pic.twitter.com/ww9b46bEXp

— New England Patriots (@Patriots) September 9, 2018

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 9 September 2018 22:52 (five years ago) link

The Browns are going to absolutely rue the day they traded Josh Gordon for a fucking fifth rounder.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

Aaron Rodgers: "You're the best."

Bill Belichick: "No, you are."

An extraordinary #NFLMicdUp with the great Bill Belichick. 🔊⬆️ (via @NFLfilms) pic.twitter.com/dHkojZVMsE

— NFL (@NFL) November 8, 2018

highly recommended clip of bill mic'd for the gbp game. includes laying into the line judge for missing a call and a wonderful montage of him not reacting at all to scores and key game moments.

Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 8 November 2018 18:32 (five years ago) link

that's fantastic. belichick to brady after gordon td: "who were you throwing that to?" LOL.

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 8 November 2018 19:15 (five years ago) link

lol he even tells the refs to do their jobs

lag∞n, Thursday, 8 November 2018 20:14 (five years ago) link

somehow it seems weird to me when he raises his voice -- feels like he should only mutter things that are nevertheless heard perfectly clearly by everyone intended

mookieproof, Thursday, 8 November 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

josh gordon stepping away from football for a while...

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:04 (five years ago) link

bout to be suspended for the drugs again they say

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link

drugs are a helluva drug

тпсбlack (Spottie), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:20 (five years ago) link

drugs are prob better than playing football tbh

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:22 (five years ago) link

surely half the football players are high on opiates half the time

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:23 (five years ago) link

gotta go through the proper channels

lag∞n, Thursday, 20 December 2018 18:24 (five years ago) link

this season is so frustrating guys.

they have like one receiver atm and brady definitely has a knee injury

¯\_(🏈 )_/¯ (daria-g), Sunday, 23 December 2018 20:27 (five years ago) link

pats shd hang it up they had a good run

lag∞n, Monday, 24 December 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link

me and lag∞n could probably win a couple titles by ourselves in a division with the jets/bills/dolphins but 10 in a row is still pretty fuckin impressive

mookieproof, Monday, 24 December 2018 03:37 (five years ago) link

yes since were the troops

lag∞n, Monday, 24 December 2018 03:46 (five years ago) link

eagles make the playoffs!

k3vin k., Monday, 31 December 2018 00:25 (five years ago) link

lol wrong thread

k3vin k., Monday, 31 December 2018 00:59 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

WTF?

DJI, Thursday, 31 January 2019 19:11 (five years ago) link

im interested in meeting svengalis and rasputins

lag∞n, Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:03 (five years ago) link

WTFFF PORZINGIS TO DALLAS???

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
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56s
Let's try that again: Dallas is finalizing a deal to land Kristaps Porzingis, league sources tell ESPN.
Quote Tweet

marcos smart (Spottie), Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:39 (five years ago) link

Wrong thread?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link

wrong thread lol

marcos smart (Spottie), Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:41 (five years ago) link

fuck, sorry to hear that. fucking knicks man. what are they getting, a handful of magic beans?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 31 January 2019 20:42 (five years ago) link

Robert Kraft is wearing a shiny necklace with the word “Championships”. @LevanReid reports that it was gifted to him by Meek Mill.

— Mike Reiss (@MikeReiss) February 5, 2019

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 16:48 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DyqFH40W0AAnl4g.jpg:large

i mean at this point i can't even hate

omar little, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:29 (five years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 21:45 (five years ago) link

the players seem to really connect to him fwiw

lag∞n, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 21:46 (five years ago) link

any haters are just jealous/anxious they’ll never reach his level of dgaf

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:00 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/QntC9Yq.jpg

Roberto Spiralli, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:25 (five years ago) link

whos that

frogbs, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:26 (five years ago) link

dril

omar little, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 22:27 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Patriots owner Robert Kraft among those charged with soliciting prostitution, Jupiter Police confirm at a press conference. https://t.co/9DePrXAeeI

— Kevin Duffy (@KevinRDuffy) February 22, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:53 (five years ago) link

holy shit

omar little, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:55 (five years ago) link

uhhhhh

but I can't let Trae do it I got Huerter on my mind (Spottie), Friday, 22 February 2019 16:56 (five years ago) link

Womp womp

Johnny Fever, Friday, 22 February 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link

what a dumb old idiot

call all destroyer, Friday, 22 February 2019 17:26 (five years ago) link

that answers this question

https://deadspin.com/whats-up-with-the-nfl-questions-at-this-sex-trafficking-1832805259

omar little, Friday, 22 February 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link

~sex trafficking~ is a sensationalistic term/tool of the police state/right wing bs/further way to criminalize sex workers/can refer to almost anything involving paying for sex fwiw

lag∞n, Friday, 22 February 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

otoh though, Bob Kraft can eat shit.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 22 February 2019 17:58 (five years ago) link

i think we can all agree that the best outcome of this is if he forfeits all of his money to me

lag∞n, Friday, 22 February 2019 17:59 (five years ago) link

theres a mole....

Posted last night on Reddit pic.twitter.com/zX2SZgrPaI

— Alex Griswold (@HashtagGriswold) February 22, 2019

lag∞n, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:03 (five years ago) link

pleasebejaredpleasebejaredpleasebejared

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 22 February 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

what if its sting of the police himself

lag∞n, Friday, 22 February 2019 18:21 (five years ago) link

the schef has sources everywhere

ESPN’s Adam Schefter on the Florida prostitution sting: "There are people down there in that area I’m told who say this story is going to heat up and get a lot worse...I’m also told that Robert Kraft is not the biggest name involved down there"pic.twitter.com/BZTRkabUYi

— Ryan Saavedra (@RealSaavedra) February 22, 2019

mookieproof, Friday, 22 February 2019 19:12 (five years ago) link

on behalf of ILNFL, can I just say, lol

frogbs, Friday, 22 February 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link

this reinforces my dislike of boston sports teams

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Friday, 22 February 2019 20:50 (five years ago) link

otm

by the light of the burning Citroën, Friday, 22 February 2019 20:52 (five years ago) link

bookmarking this thred

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:28 (five years ago) link

who can be the 'bigger name' than robert kraft?

thinking hulk hogan

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:39 (five years ago) link

i thought it was a reference to a tom brady like sports star

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:41 (five years ago) link

i don't *like* tom brady, but that would seem out of character

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:44 (five years ago) link

i didn't mean brady himself, though you never know these days

gronkowsku is who i had in mind

John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:46 (five years ago) link

White trash American billionaires... grease and sleaze has really piled up on whatever f'ed up legacy the Pats have built.

NFL owners are some real creeps, even more than your usual rich creeps. I guess they have to work hard to keep up with FIFA.

earlnash, Saturday, 23 February 2019 02:57 (five years ago) link

all otm

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 23 February 2019 12:18 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

Congratulations to local football star and Alabama Crimson Tide's Damian Harris getting drafted by the Pats in the 3rd round. It is a pretty good draft slot choice for a running back. Getting drafted later by a good team can lead to stardom much more so than early pick on a crap club.

earlnash, Wednesday, 1 May 2019 00:19 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxQSx2vHImL/

https://www.instagram.com/p/BxczvOnnzFC/

thank u tom brady now i know that the most rhode island thing ever 'caught in providence' is STILL on tv & also on instagram!

Дарья (daria-g), Monday, 3 June 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link

lmao rhode island is a real weird place

call all destroyer, Monday, 3 June 2019 03:17 (four years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 3 June 2019 04:13 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Saw a regional news paper article saying Harris was looking really good in mini-camp and that the running back corp could be a real strength on this years club. If Harris can catch the ball, which I doubt he got many shots at catching at Alabama, he could be a more potent offensive weapon.

Clubs are throwing more to the running back these days anyway, so this could be something they might do since they won't have as prominent a receiver at TE.

earlnash, Sunday, 21 July 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

lol @ Patrick Chung

brigadier pudding (DJP), Thursday, 22 August 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link

He was just trying to have a good time

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 22 August 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

Tom Brady and his fantastic hat at the podium #Patriots pic.twitter.com/2wea6jmVhi

— Patriots on CLNS (@PatriotsCLNS) August 23, 2019

lag∞n, Friday, 23 August 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

Tom Brady’s hat. pic.twitter.com/PfKmQB2lwv

— Henry McKenna (@McKennAnalysis) August 23, 2019

lag∞n, Friday, 23 August 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECoJut1UYAIhYte?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Friday, 23 August 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link

Wtf? They bench Chung just for getting his party on, but they let Brady run rampant with that hat? The world is fucked.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 23 August 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link

Who introduce Tom Brady to Pharrell?

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 23 August 2019 15:08 (four years ago) link

He knew it would make you....

happy

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 23 August 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

Cam's Brady's hat

Brad C., Friday, 23 August 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECrgZFVXUAUK34E.jpg:small

mookieproof, Friday, 23 August 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

While interviewing fans outside Gillette for @WEEI before Pats/Panthers I had the pleasure of speaking with who I shall now refer to as my favorite Patriots fan ever. pic.twitter.com/Iyp9AF8uYN

— Fitzy (@FitzyGFY) August 23, 2019

Дарья (daria-g), Saturday, 24 August 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

True Masshole spirit, I love it!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 24 August 2019 05:38 (four years ago) link

GRONK

Gronk announces endorsement deal with CBDMedic.

He says he’s pain-free because of CBD and calls on pro sports leagues to change policies. pic.twitter.com/nSQTgI267m

— B/R Gridiron (@brgridiron) August 27, 2019

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

tell 'em Gronk!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link

weird no one made a deal abt gronk retiring early like w luck

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

basically the same age and gronks better

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

gronk had been hinting about it for a year and luck kept it quiet

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

also gronk's condition felt more dire and he seemed more 'used up', so there was not as much surprise.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

major difference in timing. one was not long after after winning a title the other was right before the season started.

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link

I think also a QB leaving is much more earthshaking wrt a franchise’s future plans.

omar little, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

speaking of Gronk, this is pretty nuts

https://deadspin.com/rob-gronkowski-says-he-couldnt-sleep-for-weeks-after-a-1837622174

I think the difference is pretty clear, Gronk is one of the best ever & has the rings to show for it, while Luck's career still feels incomplete...he won 4 playoff games, only making it as far as the AFCCG one time. also Gronk had injured so many different parts of his body that I think even some Pats fans were begging him to retire

frogbs, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:47 (four years ago) link

it is freaky when you look at the film and it was a totally routine and legal hit and it fucked up his quad that badly

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

luck was totally injury prone too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

i saw some stat that over his first three seasons he took 60 more hits than any other qb in that timeframe.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

Probably didn't help that Luck was basically asking defenders to hit him harder.

DJI, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBHhO2yWRMo

big city slam (Spottie), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link

In hindsight, maybe not the best strategy.

DJI, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link

Sick drive!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 9 September 2019 00:43 (four years ago) link

lol josh gordon looks huge

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 September 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link

tommy brady

lag∞n, Monday, 9 September 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

They are utterly destroying the Steelers, and we haven't even seen what they are like with Antonio Brown yet. Good lord.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 9 September 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link

lol josh gordon looks huge

― call all destroyer, Sunday, September 8, 2019 8:49 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeaah

lag∞n, Monday, 9 September 2019 02:33 (four years ago) link

he's almost playing at tight end size. just wrecked some guy blocking on the back side on that 3rd and 5.

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 September 2019 02:35 (four years ago) link

just

How did Josh Gordon hang onto this ball? #PITvsNE pic.twitter.com/CDgi4y9o1M

— Kevin Boilard (@247KevinBoilard) September 9, 2019

lag∞n, Monday, 9 September 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

back before his substance abuse probs when he was much younger and skinnier the main thing i remember is that if he got his hands on the ball it was a catch.

call all destroyer, Monday, 9 September 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

Damn! Damn! Damn! You Big Ben, can you figure out a way to beat Brady is Foxboro ONE DAMN TIME! F$&@&)$&@@&$!!!!!!

— Stephen A Smith (@stephenasmith) September 9, 2019

lag∞n, Monday, 9 September 2019 02:55 (four years ago) link

Tom, this is Antonio. Antonio, Tom #Patriots pic.twitter.com/lWNICEWuwp

— Michael Giardi (@MikeGiardi) September 10, 2019

the nfl is so absurd guys

Дарья (daria-g), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

So the Antonio Brown acquisition went from cool surprise to utter shitstorm rather quickly

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 12 September 2019 01:41 (four years ago) link

idk depending on what corner of the media you were consuming it was always a shitstorm? like he conspired to get himself released b/c the patriots tampered and he knew he had a soft landing on a contender or whatever ideas were out there. there is definitely an element of local boston media that was extra sanctimonious about this before the civil suit news broke.

this is a depressing statement to make but these types of civil suits are so common nowadays and it's hard to know what to think of them.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 September 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

I'd argue there's an order of magnitude difference in ugliness between NFL backroom dealings and rape accusations.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 12 September 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

brady finally fading and now the patriots have the best defense ever lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 6 October 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

sick

Mohamed Sanu gameday cleats honoring the life of John Witherspoon 🙌🏾 pic.twitter.com/9hiYcdgKxD

— Taylor Rooks (@TaylorRooks) November 3, 2019

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 01:14 (four years ago) link

are you READY..

Дарья (daria-g), Monday, 4 November 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link

Their two top WRs are gone, and they are actually playing a good team for once. Not feeling great about this one. Their 4th down brain fart didn't help.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 01:35 (four years ago) link

pats gettin wrecked!

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link

two balls up for grabs so far tho

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link

rip patriots

frogbs, Monday, 4 November 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link

Offense has nothing going on. D is tightening up a bit.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 01:53 (four years ago) link

this is not going well

Дарья (daria-g), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link

This is fun so far.

DJI, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link

Yikes

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:01 (four years ago) link

glad I took the over

frogbs, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link

Lucky break, not dead yet

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link

relax Pats are winning this game 8)

frogbs, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:14 (four years ago) link

That intentional grounding call was some BS

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:22 (four years ago) link

Jesus

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

not a fumb

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:24 (four years ago) link

Ah yeah, his elbow was down

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link

they shd go for it cowards

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link

This is wild

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:29 (four years ago) link

a fumb

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link

phhhh all these penalties

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:32 (four years ago) link

Oh cool, we're still celebrating Ray Lewis

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link

goddamn those last two throws

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

ok that was impressive

Дарья (daria-g), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:45 (four years ago) link

game is wild

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link

Easily their most exciting game of the season

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link

it's a low bar but also every pats/ravens game seems to get crazy

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

how come the nfl doesnt have some matrix cgi shit where they can just look at the play from all angles

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

other than the cable camera over the field i image that nfl stadium camera positions have been set for many years based on what broadcast tv wants to use

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:04 (four years ago) link

they cld install 100 special cameras for the purpose or whatever

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:05 (four years ago) link

its wld be more entertaining too

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link

agreed, of course bill belichick lobbied for years to get them to install cams looking right at the pylon and they won't even do that. they used to tell him it was too expensive and he would joke about holding a bake sale so they could get goal line cams.

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:12 (four years ago) link

nfl has more money than most countries lol

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link

Fuuuuuuuck

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 4 November 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link

o jeez

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link

patriots playing mistakeful football this evening

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:15 (four years ago) link

dominating tho

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link

steve belichick cuts his own hair

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link

also the name steve belichick is hilarious

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:29 (four years ago) link

we'll never find out but i would pay a significant price to discover if steve belichick is actually completely useless or not

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link

i believe in steve (belichick)

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link

i'm happy for bill's daughter who coaches college lacrosse, gets to keep it in the family business but with much less baggage

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:35 (four years ago) link

amazing run

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:36 (four years ago) link

wth

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 03:48 (four years ago) link

baltimores option has fooled the camera multiple times tonight

lag∞n, Monday, 4 November 2019 04:05 (four years ago) link

they are really good at it

call all destroyer, Monday, 4 November 2019 04:10 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

o line sux

lag∞n, Sunday, 24 November 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link

I know the weather sucks, but Pats receivers have dropped a whole bunch of perfect passes.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 25 November 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

yeahp

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 00:05 (four years ago) link

I'm calling tripping...on these refs!

$1,000,000 or 1 bag of honeycrisp apples (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 25 November 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

theyre tripping.....on drugs!

lag∞n, Monday, 25 November 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

"We're filming a documentary about scouting and just happen to be filming your sideline signals."

It's hilarious as it is the BENGALS!!!

At least the Jets were decent and a division rival when they went after them.

The Pats are pretty much the ultimate sports franchise for MAGA America from it's trashy perv owner on down.

earlnash, Thursday, 12 December 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link

football is maga sry

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 December 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link

Alan Dershowitz has taken the stage at Trump's Hanukkah event following remarks from Robert Kraft

— Kevin Liptak (@Kevinliptakcnn) December 11, 2019

lag∞n, Thursday, 12 December 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link

vaguely proud to say that the steelers were with obama

they'd still, of course, rather start an undrafted rookie QB than consider kaep, let alone jettison rapey roffles

the stuff the patritos have (been caught) cheating on is barely noteworthy for its actual affects on games. i mean, it's the bengals and the jets and inflation. i am perfectly happy to stipulate that they'd win those games anyway. but continuing to do this shit over decades is really something

fortunately i know roger goodell is all about accountability and the integrity of the shield

mookieproof, Thursday, 12 December 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link

the Bengals offense certainly is an enigma

frogbs, Thursday, 12 December 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

surely they were robbed

mookieproof, Sunday, 5 January 2020 04:28 (four years ago) link

Derrick Henry robbed them blind.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 5 January 2020 04:29 (four years ago) link

Offense just didn't have the goods for most of the season. I feel bad for Brady because I think he's still good.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 5 January 2020 04:30 (four years ago) link

lol of all the years for me to decide to go total no football i pick the one where the thumbtacks upend the evil empire

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 5 January 2020 04:38 (four years ago) link

All the knowledge is still there, he is still apparently doing all the right things, but everyone's brain and reflexes slow with age and contrary to the common belief Brady hasn't stopped aging.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 5 January 2020 04:40 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENfY3oDVUAIOlf9.jpg

mookieproof, Sunday, 5 January 2020 04:57 (four years ago) link

this is so sad!

k3vin k., Sunday, 5 January 2020 05:08 (four years ago) link

just two guys chatting about their trophy wives

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 5 January 2020 06:30 (four years ago) link

this was all foredoomed when he decided to wear that hat to the preseason press conference

El Tomboto, Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

i've de-NFLed enough to have few profootballfeels, but somehow still get freude from patrito schädens. didn't even find out til today, i could have had such good times.

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Sunday, 5 January 2020 16:28 (four years ago) link

might fuck around and watch the aaron hernandez doc

lag∞n, Thursday, 16 January 2020 04:50 (four years ago) link

yeah for sure gonna watch

k3vin k., Thursday, 16 January 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link

it was pretty gnarly!

lag∞n, Sunday, 19 January 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

rip touchdown tommy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link

end of an era

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 17 March 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

tom brady had only one request for the bucs: "what's my FP number?"

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

end of an era

good riddance

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

rude

lag∞n, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

Time to bring back Drew Bledsoe

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

Finally

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 01:39 (four years ago) link

Return of Flutie

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 01:50 (four years ago) link

take him away from the nbc booth in ND home games, where he likes to make fun of us

Nudeln und Klopapier Gore (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 01:51 (four years ago) link

tony eason vs ken o'brien vs marino

mookieproof, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 01:53 (four years ago) link

...steve grogan

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 03:38 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EazZ6tPWsAEtcJE?format=jpg&name=small

lag∞n, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link

They’re getting Cam on a one year deal

Betting they’ll do better than the Bucs this year

frogbs, Monday, 29 June 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

Agreed

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 29 June 2020 00:29 (three years ago) link

yeah thats good pickup

lag∞n, Monday, 29 June 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

everything is crazy! i love cam i hope he gets a ring in NE

Дарья (daria-g), Monday, 29 June 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link

i hope the pats don't break cam vs i hope cam breaks the pats is a tough call

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 June 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbrsPZeWoAM0I49?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Monday, 29 June 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

Give that man a musket

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 29 June 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

oh my god his base salary is barely over $1m. can only hit $7.5m with all the incentives. that's an insane bargain for a dude who was a league MVP just a few years ago, even if there's a 50/50 chance he's totally shot that is a ridiculously good pickup

frogbs, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

yeah

lag∞n, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

baffling that no one offered him anything better

lag∞n, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

yeah easy to hate on the pats for constantly getting good players on the cheap but seriously like half the teams in the league should've been happy to pay him at least $3-4m just as a backup if nothing else

frogbs, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

im sure he wanted to start but like lots of teams need starting quarterbacks

lag∞n, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link

nfl really hates individuals

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 29 June 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

cam really went to town with the special characters here

https://www.instagram.com/p/CEsJ28ohl-I/

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 3 September 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link

https://preview.redd.it/tjvlhtaencm51.gif

DJI, Friday, 11 September 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link

Why are we posting TB Bucs content here?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 September 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link

where’s the goddamn regular season 2020 thread???

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 11 September 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

no one cares about football anymore

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 11 September 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link

Loving the Cam Newton era

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 21 September 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

Turns out Julian Edelman is still great, even without Brady

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 21 September 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link

It's a shame they couldn't quite do it, but what a great game

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 21 September 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

i wish that last playcall had been something with a little more time to develop

call all destroyer, Monday, 21 September 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

man primetime Pats games always have some crazy ending don't they

frogbs, Monday, 21 September 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

Pats won a game against the Colts early in the rivalry in Indy on a last second stand. I remember the Colts were driving down to win the game and Willie McGinest played like he was hurt to stop the clock, he went out for one play and then came right back in and made the tackle on the last play.

earlnash, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

i wish that last playcall had been something with a little more time to develop

as someone who knows much less than BB has forgotten about football, i'd have run a bootleg to the wide (right) side and let cam decide whether to throw or run

maybe the jets will hire us

mookieproof, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

I miss Willie McGinest

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link

xp i think cam said after he should have bounced it further outside but honestly the entire left side of the line got blown up, not a lot he could do. running right would seem to offer more options though since as you said it is the wide side and you have a right-handed qb.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

“I would’ve simply selected the goal line win play” — everyone after every Seahawks-Patriots game

— Jason Kirk, This American Life's cornhole expert (@thejasonkirk) September 21, 2020

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

lol true

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

once the patriots crossed the 50-yd line, they should have signed marshawn lynch (maybe he was actually in seattle?) and given him the ball on the final play.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 07:47 (three years ago) link

you've got to give it to beast mode there. even if he isn't on your team yet.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

in retrospect it's kind of amazing that beastmode never came to NE on like 2 yr/$500,000 contract or whatever

frogbs, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

its not too late

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

beast mode is an Ike's man. Bill Belichick is a Subway man. i don't see it.

bogo jumbo boba (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 22 September 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Beastmode would have to come into the game riding on top of Ron Meyer's lawn mower with the snow blower on the front.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/GvmaiM4AjDvXiJCOasty2CaFdEm0UHoE7hwbZjzdAEP3eHWF7jtcP4y46Db5J9PygQq7TjI7bjR621u2QRWI7EVtGhfW5YoeX1n-1LLloqRWUWmFVfVVaWM00bZws_Q

earlnash, Thursday, 24 September 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link

man, does Jacksonville look bad defensively. just let my Fins push them around for an easy TD

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 September 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link

(and we're not exactly a team that puts many of them up!)

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 September 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link

lol and then they let us do it again. thanks for making my boys look like the 49ers for a day!

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 September 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

u r in the pats thread, not the nfl thread

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 September 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

Fuckin Florida teams

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 25 September 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

does it reeeeally matter at this point

LaRusso Auto (Neanderthal), Friday, 25 September 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link

it does in that i click on one, and rarely click on the other

call all destroyer, Friday, 25 September 2020 01:00 (three years ago) link

This is the thread where I work out my feelings about the Tampa Bay Bucs

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 25 September 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link

born to die / world is a pat

lag∞n, Friday, 25 September 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link

here's a fla thread for everyone to talk about floradi shit because no one else cares

mookieproof, Friday, 25 September 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link

Speaking of other Florida/Pats news, lets give a big NFL Week 2 Pat Patriot MVP to the Patriot legal staff for getting prostitution charges dropped against Bob Kraft.

Winners all around!

earlnash, Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Seems if the video is ruled ineligible to be used in court, they did not have much of a case.

Too bad losers! Pats rule!

earlnash, Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

Mr. Kraft was only shooting video for the Patriots website.

earlnash, Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

Had to do it.

😂 @CameronNewton pic.twitter.com/w3G0EqLj4H

— New England Patriots (@Patriots) September 27, 2020

lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:34 (three years ago) link

came here just to post that, it makes me so happy

Дарья (daria-g), Monday, 28 September 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

11 years ago today, Tom Brady threw a record FIVE TDs in one quarter 🤯

(via @nflthrowback) pic.twitter.com/1chlpIDKTo

— SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) October 18, 2020

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 October 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

FG fest 2020

eat my room temperature ass (Neanderthal), Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

pats dont seem to have a lot of talent on offense

lag∞n, Sunday, 18 October 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

NE lookin pretty bad against SF

Neanderthal, Sunday, 25 October 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

it doesnt seem like the pats will go 12-4 this year

lag∞n, Sunday, 1 November 2020 22:54 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Am I tripping or are they looking weirdly good this evening? Damien Harris is kicking serious ass.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 16 November 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link

yeah, i haven't seen a ton of them this year but they are looking pretty good. the offense is still a little bit scotch tape and bubblegum outside of harris but if anyone can make that work they can.

call all destroyer, Monday, 16 November 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link

Don't think it will happen, but it would be hilarious for the Pats to win out and still win the division over Miami and Buffalo.

Schadenfreude is the best thing about NFL.

The Ravens still not being able to beat the Pats, when on paper the better club is still pretty hilarious.

It would be even funnier for the Pats end up in the playoffs at like 8-8 and somehow take out the Steelers (AGAIN).

earlnash, Monday, 16 November 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

Or better to upset the Steelers then beat the Colts (AGAIN).

Ha!

earlnash, Monday, 16 November 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/En2FvyRXYAA8ZnY?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Friday, 27 November 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Part and parcel(ls) for this thread

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 November 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

four months pass...

happy retirement to julian edelman. one of the best.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link

one month passes...
three months pass...

heartbroken 💔 great man of God… lost for words - David Patten… 🙏 pic.twitter.com/DOMWJqjoBv

— Richard Seymour (@BigSey93) September 3, 2021

died in a motorcycle accident. absolute nails during the first couple brady years.

call all destroyer, Friday, 3 September 2021 18:41 (two years ago) link

:(

fact checking cuz, Friday, 3 September 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

oh no :(

Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 September 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

fuck

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 3 September 2021 20:31 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh933lut-hU

patten catches 2 tds, throws for one, and runs for one. stick around for his interview.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 5 September 2021 02:15 (two years ago) link

bill belichick talks about long snappers and the history of specialization for 10 minutes. pretty captivating stuff when he gets rolling explaining the evolution of punt blocking strategy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oH8dfwep0c

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 September 2021 01:58 (two years ago) link

starts at about 12:35

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Saturday, 18 September 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link

oh thanks, that was a timestamped link before the embed

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 September 2021 02:46 (two years ago) link

that's an amazing off-the-cuff response

Brad C., Saturday, 18 September 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link

there's now a little self-awareness with the media where they know if they ask him a broad question about football strategy he will just go and go (in contrast to asking him anything specific about the current state of the team), and i think bill is in on the bit at this point, but i can't argue with the output. he's an encyclopedia and really good at explaining this stuff.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 18 September 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link

good breakdown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0eqNPiXgmk

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link

lol i remember hearing after the fact that off the record the patriots coaches were very, very, very confident that they were going to win that game.

call all destroyer, Friday, 1 October 2021 14:40 (two years ago) link

lmao got em

lag∞n, Friday, 1 October 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link

Everybody give Tom a hug

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 October 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link

Thanks for beating us, Tommy

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 4 October 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link

Bill broke wide open in that presser

balance transfer eligible (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 October 2021 05:05 (two years ago) link

belichick going to have to unleash mac fulltime sooner than later if this keeps up

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 October 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

quarterback controversy?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 August 2023 13:25 (eight months ago) link

belichick screaming "do your job" at the bass player

lag∞n, Tuesday, 22 August 2023 13:42 (eight months ago) link

three months pass...

how did i not know this

I haven’t even mentioned how the [Patriots were] banned from home field Monday Night Football games from 1981 to 1995 because of a mass inebriation festival in which a man fell ill with a heart attack and some fans urinated on the EMTs while they were working on him and, after the game, some idiot had stolen a goal post and, on his way up Route 1, he hit some power lines and electrocuted himself.

mookieproof, Monday, 18 December 2023 20:46 (four months ago) link

jesus christ

lag∞n, Monday, 18 December 2023 21:08 (four months ago) link

if that's not great advertisement for 1980s football I don't know what is

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 December 2023 21:13 (four months ago) link

stolen a goal post and, on his way up Route 1, he hit some power lines and electrocuted himself

is he still available? sounds like he might be an upgrade from the patritos' current placekicking situation

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 01:22 (four months ago) link

tbf if you'd asked me 'which fanbase did this?' i'd have said

1. eagles
2. jets
3. patritos

mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 02:22 (four months ago) link

no bills?

The Yellow Kid, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 04:41 (four months ago) link


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