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Our 2007 Oink invite request form has been finalized, at the moment we have 23 Oink invites up for grabs. Oink invites will be given out only to those who post a request form here with completed answers in full. If you are incapable of following these instructions, how can we expect you to maintain respectable upload ratios?

a) requested username
b) first name (no surnames)
c) age
d) gender
e) geographic location


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

5) How many invites do you require?


Confirmed Oink invites (or rejections) will be posted here in 1-3 working days. Check back here at that time, requests to expedite the approval process will result in immediate rejection.

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Monday, 29 January 2007 15:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

uh

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am0n (am0n), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha oink admin i love you. thanks for the quick and easy invite!

Confounded (Confounded), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Your username sounds familiar. Didn't we ban you after the 2006 Oink invite request form was published?

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Monday, 29 January 2007 16:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

We will find your lost oink password too!

Oink Administrator (Pablo A), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Guns 'n' Roses "Chinese Democracy" has leaked

0rson (am0n), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

someone s33d plz

gake email adress (Pablo A), Monday, 29 January 2007 17:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: flipseng
b) first name (no surnames):seng
c) age:31
d) gender:male
e) geographic location:virginia, usa

seng thanabouasy, Monday, 29 January 2007 18:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here's a link to the Chinese Democracy torrent:

http://oink.me.uk/details.php?id=364920

la femme chinoise (ex machina), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: gr8pmkn
b) first name (no surnames): Tom
c) age: 35
d) gender: male
e) geographic location: Pennsylvania, USA

gr8pmkn, Monday, 29 January 2007 19:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)MurderapOlis
b)Jesus
c)25
d)male
e)Minneapolis,Minnesota,USA

1)The Beatles - Love, Bronze Nazareth - The Great Migration, Rza presents - Afro Samurai Soundtrack
2)Rockism is awesome. It is the plural of rock, which is classic American music. If you don't know what rockism is, you betta ax somebody.
3)Deerhoof blows Stevens for change all night long, you know who truly is the dominator.
I need an invite!!!

Jesus Chavez, Monday, 29 January 2007 19:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

LICK BALLS SON

FUCK YOU EAT A DICK, Monday, 29 January 2007 19:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

i smell fakes, we're not even on google yet

am0n (am0n), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah, and what part of "eight sentence minimum" don't these fakes understand

gake email adress (Pablo A), Monday, 29 January 2007 19:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

trolling 101

Confounded (Confounded), Monday, 29 January 2007 21:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) dymaxion
b) Justin
c) 22
d) M
e) CLT, NC, US

1) Regina Spektor - Begin to Hope; Joanna Newsom - Ys; Logistics - Now More Than Ever

2) Long have scholars and hippies pondered the origins of Rockism, trying to lay a finger on when it began, who set it in motion. There is one school of thought that places the genesis somewhere around the mid 20th century. Elvis, The Beatles, and similar pop icons were rising to power, breaking preconceptions and pushing envelopes. However this is merely a casual observation of Rockism's more recent renaissance, and does not touch on the true nature of Rockism -- it's core if you will -- which has been in existence far longer than history books accurately record.

Many scholars attribute the rise of Johann Sebastian Bach with the rise of Rockism -- as truly his late night organ riffs must have rocked his Baroque friends to their bones, chilling them with raw modal capitulations and bringing them to tears with the power and sensitivity of perfectly executed picardy thirds. Speculation as to Rockism's origins beyond this point in time has been ventured, but no conclusive evidence of previous Rockist works have found, though many have dedicated their careers in trying to find them.

Rockism though, despite academic debates as to it's birth and development, is typically characterized by devastatingly wicked tunes, surreal harmonies, and spine-jucing rhythms. "Feeling that shit in my fucking soul" is a common sentiment expressed among its followers, though there are many derivatives of this expression.

3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azwGcASF8oY

4) Neither. Seriously. If you want more explanation to this then, well. Then you wouldn't understand to begin with. Neither are bad, but neither merit any kind of genuine critical dissection. I listen to and enjoy them both. I even rock out. But there is no context in which to place one above the other.

5) 1

J Ruckus, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 03:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Nihilistic
b) Tom
c) 17
d) boy
e) massachusetts[north east usa]
1)
With Love and Squalor[192kbps]
Those Who Tell Truth Shall Die, Those Who Tell the Truth Shall Live Forever [192kbps]
Happy Music for Happy People [192kbps]
2)It's the ideology of that certain things hold more favor in rock music. In addition to criticising "mainstream" music. For some, it's praise for avoiding description of unadventurous musical tastes or a word for just liking rock a whole lot. Sometimes it's a preference to albums over songs, or meaningful lyrics, things like that. In addition to the belief that being a rockist also brings the connotation that rock is the best kind of music, etc. Rockism also prefers human driven sound, as opposed to synth sounds. It's also the belief that music is a form of expressing the artists' self. In addition to believing the ideal that other genres, plainly suck. Take for example, hip hop, pop, techno, trance etc. Rockism "is treating rock as normative."
3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://lightnin1979.img.jugem.jp/20051218_117675.jpg
4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Sufjan Stevens. Well, while I appreciate the unique and less "popular" Deerhoof, I prefer Sufjan Stevens. Deerhoof has a much different sound that I haven't been exposed to for long enough. As opposed to Sufjan Stevens, which has a variety of unique sounds and instruments. In addition, the vocals of Sufjan Stevens are, in my opinion, more well "choreographed" to the music. However, the sounds of some songs of Deerhoof make it a worthy adversary. For instance the track "Stuffed" brings a very enjoyable indie sound. However overall I'm not a fan of their indie guitar style, or vocals. Although the drums are spot on.
5) How many invites do you require?
1 [myself]
withoutadoubt1 at gmail dot com
- Tom

Tom N, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 03:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Confounded = Rejected
Orson = Approved
Seng Thanabouasy = Rejected
gr8pmkn = Rejected
Jesus Chavez = Rejected
J Ruckus = Approved
Tom N = Approved

Rejected applicants can reapply in 90 days, approved applicants will have login directions posted here in 4-5 business days.

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 03:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) EightBitEspresso
b) Aaron
c) 17
d) Male
e) North Carolina, USA

1) Short Fuse - Self Titled
Mogwai - Mr. Beast
Death Cab For Cutie - Something About Airplanes
2) This question caught me off guard, am I in school now? No pain no gain I guess. Ok, Rockism was formed around the 1970-80s by the British media and it is founded on the idea that some artists are more "true" or "authentic" than another band. Rockism is against the technological editing of music like synths and various computer based programs. Rockism believers feel that the music should come from the artists art and not from their hard drive. Rockism is founded, more or less, on the idea that less is more. The less of a computer you have in your music, the more or your soul people hear.
3) http://www.helo.it/killsapo/images/smoking_cat_power.jpg (I'm a smoker, heh heh)
4) Hm...I'm not a fan of either really, but Deerhoof definietely piques me more because of their experimental styles and offbeat song structures. I'm into the more offbeat stuff so I relate to it more, I've been listening to crap like Mr. Bungle for ages, so I can take some weird stuff, Deerhoof is quite normal to me. I'm not forgetting Sufjan, of course. He's a very talented artist and he's had some wonderful songs I really enjoy listening to, "Feel The Illinoise" is a song I keep finding myself coming back to, but I really like some of these experimental outside the box guys. It's just like a breath of fresh air to a stale music world, that goes for the former and the latter.
5) 1 for myself.

I hope I make it!

Aaron Bishop (Bishimon), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 04:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)RoxyB
b)Roxy
c)27
d)Female
e)Los Angeles, CA
1)The Wailing Jennys - Firecracker [192kbps],
Lucy Kaplasky - Flesh and Bone [192kbps],
Tome Waits - Orphans, Brawlers, Bawler's, and Bastards [192kbps].
2)Rockism is the belief that certain music is more organic then others. They believe that rock songwriters and musicians are better then all other genres. They also believe that those that who use the more original rock instruments of drums, guitars, and bass are considered more authentic. Musicians who use synths and electronics are considered to be cop out.
Lyrics are very important as well. The more intense or less mainstream the better. Rockism believes that being able to "feel" the music is the most important thing. It looks down on any form of music created for commercial purposes. Especially music that is more image driven then anything else.
3) Picture of Cat Power
4) I appreciate both Sufjan Stevens and Deerhoof. It's difficult to say which is better. Sufjan Stevens lyrics are amazing, while Deerhoof have amazing song structures. Yet, you can say the same for Sufjan Stevens song structures and Deerhoof's lyrics as well. Personally, I connect with Sufjan Stevens lyrics more and Deerhoof's music more. But it kind of depends on my mood. I think that Sufjan Stevens is a better musician so that makes the songs flow more. Though I like the rawness that Deerhoof plays with.
5) 1 invite for myself.

Thanks for offering this chance!

Roxy Bishop, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 05:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) m26inpa
b) Andrew
c) 33
d) Male
e) New Jersey U.S.

1) The Killers - Sam's Town; Oasis - Stop The Clocks; Gwen Stefani - Sweet Escape; The Smiths - Louder Than Bombs
2) I have never heard of 'rockism' before so I fired up Google and did some research. It seems that rockism is musical "racism". It is the belief that certain genres of music are crap and worthless when compared to other genres. Bands that write and perform their own music are more valued than those "cookie cutter" artist who are churned out daily by the music industry. It has also been used to describe what's "wrong" with the music industry today. It reminds me of being in 8th grade and arguing about which band is better than the other. I mean, if you like it, listen to it. Don't let other people dictate what is "good" and what isn't.
3) http://stefanogiovannini.com/portfolios/catpowerpics/image-html/02-chan.html
4) I have never heard Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof. I honestly can't say which artist is better. I could try to fake it, but anyone who knows these artists would see right through it. I hope my invite doesn't hinge on the music I listen to. I am sure both artists have their pros and cons. Also I'm sure that their fans will argue for hours about who is better. If I were to get an invite, perhaps I would download both artists and give them a listen. Then I would be able to give an honest opinion.
5) I require one (1) invite.

*** I used to have an account with this name. Perhaps it can be re-enabled? I am pretty sure I had a decent ratio (I can't remember the exact number) Thank you for the opportunity to get back in!

Andrew Thomas, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 05:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have never heard Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof

give this guy 10 invites

gake email adress (Pablo A), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 06:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) icematrix
b) Dan
c) 22
d) Male
e) South Dakota, USA

1) Three Days Grace - One-X
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Stadium Arcadium
Rammstein - Voelkerball
|__ A tad more on the industrial side, but good none the less!

2) Rockism is a form of musical favoritism. The idea that rock was done "right" in the 1970s helps form society's view on all new music. Some would feel that the rules defining rockism is found by taking the current societies feelings towards "good" rock music and judging future releases off that. Others would feel that the original founders of rock had set in stone the rules for all the current and future releases in its genre. I personally feel rockism can evolve as we discover new musical phenomenas, but still must stick close to its founded roots.

3) http://extraordinary.wordpress.com/files/2006/06/catpower1.png

4) My musical tastes are very unique and unfortunately I have not heard either artists' music. To try to compensate for this I searched the web for their music to hear the differences. Here are my findings: I would have to say that both artists are good at what they do. It sounds like Sufjan has great control over his voice and uses this as his strength. Many times artists don't have the greatest voices so they try to cover it up with louder instruments. As for Deerhoof, I feel the band has a great musical ability in their percussion. If I had to choose one over the other I would have to go with Sufjan Stevens for his superior vocal abilities!

5) 1

Thank you Oink for your consideration!

Dan W, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 06:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) rms7687
b) Russell
c) 19
d) Male
e) Trenton, NJ

1)Do Make Say Think-Goodbye Enemy Airship The Landlord is Dead
The Arcade Fire-Funeral
Explosions in the Sky-How Strange Innocence
2)Rockism is suspicious of the use of technology, from synthesizers to Pro Tools-style computer-based production systems. Rockism places value on the idea of the composer and performer as auteur; authentic music is composed as a sincere form of self-expression, and usually performed by those who composed it. This is as opposed to the notion of manufactured "pop" music, created in assembly line fashion by teams of hired record producers and technicians and performed by pop stars who have little input into the creative process, designed to appeal to a mass market and make profits rather than express authentic sentiments. Rockism is a primitivist ideology; a subtext of rockism is that, at one time in history, they "got music right", and that all subsequent innovations have compromised this purity. (This golden age is often placed sometime during the 1960s or 1970s.) Critics of rockism assert that this vaunted "golden age" of pure, authentic music is a myth, and that popular music never was entirely free of the interference of commercialism, marketing and commodification.
3)www.sentireascoltare.com/.../cat-power-font3.jpg
4)Neither of these artists are my style, but with a little research I found the correct answer, "In the band's early years, Matsuzaki [deerhoof] often performed live while wearing an orange bear suit." Contrast that with Stevens' frequent winged performences. So it comes down to orange bear suit versus wings. Get serious, orange bear suit kicks the crap out of wings, Deerhoof wins. And banjos suck. And what is up with the Christmas Songs? Sufjan, if that even is a real first name, puts out 2 records of crap per year (and still manages to put out one good one)I mean who does this guy think he is with all of these albums, Ryan Adams?
5) 1

Thanks for considering me!
rusmith@ursinus.edu

Russell Smith, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 06:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Desnon
b) Brendan
c) 20
d) male
e) Arkansas

1) The deadly snakes - ode to joy
Ghostface killah - Fishscales
Low - things we lost in the fire

2) Rockism is the idea that music should be made buy the artists its performed by. Its against processed pop. Generally most suggest that the high point of popular music was the the late 60's early 70's.

It has been linked to racism. Though that idea is crap.

While i think that the purpose behind rockism is pure, it limits the music you listen to. While music made by an "artist" rather than manufactured "pop" music, sometimes its fun to listen to pop music. Its really just music thats easy to process.


3) http://www.worlds-fair.net/mail/images/IMG_1379catpower.JPG

4) Deerhoof, though i like both. Sufjan Stevens Generally does good stuff, though the Christmas album, i didn't like to much. The Christian ideas in his songs tend to put me off cause I'm atheist, but i try not to let that get to me. Deerhoof is goofy music that tends to put me in a good mood. Apple O', Milk Man, and Reveille are my favorite Deerhoof albums. Seven Swans and Illinoise are my favorite Sufjan Stevens Albums. Though i should add I think Sufjan Stevens is a better musician. But thats all that counts.


5) Just one I guess.

Desnon@gmail.com

Brendan, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 09:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) akeedthe
b) Akeed
c) 19
d) Male
e) Colombo,Sri Lanka


1) Stigmata - Discography [Hollow Dreams + Silent Chaos Serpentine] 320 kbps @ www.demonoid.com
Anil Balasuriya - last Few Pieces Of April 256kbps @ www.lankantorrents.com
Hurt - Falls Apart 192-256 variable kbps @ some public multiple trackers

2) Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s. The fundamental tenet of rockism is that some forms of popular music, and some musical artists, are more authentic than others. More specifically, authentic popular music fits the rock and roll paradigm; it is made using the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, and fits the structures of a rock and roll song.Examples of this kind of bands that follow this music are Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden,Judas Priest & many other bands of the British Wave of Heavy Metal Age such as Motorhead.

3)http://l-oreille-en-feu.hautetfort.com/images/medium_chan.jpg

4) Its exactly my type of music but i prefer Deerhoof especially "Wrong Time Capsule" as deerhoofs music is more rhythmic n has a very stable beat with percusion..but Sufjan Stevens themes are mellow like n seldom bring out notions of rocking out

5) just 1 for me

Akeed Azmi, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 12:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) TheBig1
b) Adriano
c) 25
d) Male
e) Lagos, Portugal


1) She Wants Revenge (self titled)
The Knife - Silent Shout
Joanna Newsom - Ys

2) Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism. The fundamental tenet of rockism is that some forms of popular music are more authentic than others. It is made using the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, and fits the structures of a rock and roll song. Rockism is suspicious of the use of technology. Rockism places value on the idea of the composer and performer as auteur. Authentic music is composed as a sincere form of self-expression, and usually performed by those who composed it. Rockism is a primitivist ideology, a subtext of rockism is that they "got music right". Critics of rockism assert that this vaunted "golden age" of pure, authentic music is a myth, and that popular music never was entirely free of the interference of commercialism.


3) http://smashingmag.com/tour/trphoto/rox/060616cat/060616cat108.jpg

4) Well,to start things off I only know the work of Sufjan Stevens so my vote goes to him. Still, from what I found about Deerhoof and listened at www.pandora.com I can say it pleases me. Stevens routinely ditches folk's scrappy, stripped-down aesthetics, but consistently embraces its stories-of-the-people unanimity. His vocals could be easily (perhaps accurately) read as precious, but they're really more intimate than emo. My favourite Stevens' album is the epic Illinois, where he plays an ambitious musical map of the Unites States of America. Deerhoof has a mixed noise, sugary melodies, and an experimental spirit into sweetly challenging and utterly distinctive music. Their lyrics are heavily-accented by Satomi Matsuzaki's little-girl voice. The more song-like Deerhoof's music gets, the more obviously she becomes a barrier to new fans.

5) Only 1 invite.

I hope i get it :)

anngry@gmail.com

Adriano Guerreiro, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 14:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Andrew Thomas and gr8pmkn are same person. both of you are banned forever

am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 15:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

No, we're not the same person, we applied from the same computer. But whatever...

Andrew Thomas, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 18:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

enjoy your ban. or whatever...

am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 19:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

LOL so petty...

Andrew Thomas, Tuesday, 30 January 2007 19:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

welcome to oink

gake email adress (Pablo A), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 20:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

hahah

Confounded (Confounded), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 20:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) ImHackin
b) Blake
c) 18
d) M
e) Washington, United States of America


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Notorious BIG vs. Frank Sinatra
JayZ Kingdom Come
Bone Thugs-N-Harmony Greatest Hits


2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is the idea of popular music. Originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s. The fundamental tenet of rockism is that some forms of popular music, and some musical artists, are more authentic than others. More specifically, authentic popular music fits the rock and roll paradigm; it is made using the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, and fits the structures of a rock and roll song.Examples of this kind of bands that follow this music are Black Sabbath,Iron Maiden,Judas Priest & many other bands of the British Wave of Heavy Metal Age such as Motorhead.


3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://stefanogiovannini.com/portfolios/catpowerpics/image-html/06-chan.html

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

I believe defhoof is better because its noise-pop and whimsical, playful, brutal music has a wide variaty of songs that everyone loves. They also have influenced alot of music. Defhook is a unique band that many have never heard but good sounding. Nothing can prepare you for the first time you hear one of their records. If you love music you will love Deerhoof. Everyone likes defhook and if you haven't heard of them listen to them once and you'll be hooked. His vocals are what everyone loves and they are overall just a good band.

5) How many invites do you require?
Only One

THANX a bunch

Blake Hafic (Imhackin11), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 20:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

OK, everyone who is just plagiarizing the Wikipedia definition of Rockism (or slightly rewriting it) is banned. 180 day username ban and 180 day IP address ban. You know who you are.

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) saintannstrack
b) Melissa
c) 21
d) female
e) florida, usa


1) Happenstance- Rachael Yamagata
FM Static- Critically Ashamed
The Cure- Greatest Hits

2) rockism is the idea of making music through the musician their own creative freedom, rather than through pre-packaged music created by labels or merely for the pop of it. basically, music made for the music, and not to make a quick buck. there is argument that no music is purely made without any commercial thought processes behind it, and that all music has some form of produced aspect to it. but basically the term is for bands that don't go with synthesizers and pro tools to hype up their music, rather they perform on the instruments themselves as well as the lyrics, the band being a huge part of the creation of the music. the term is more for rock or metal bands, which is where the actual term came from. I believe the term also began to be in use in britain, where people began preferring this over pop music. think of rock bands in the 80s, and you'd get a good idea of what this whole movement is. pop music is the opposite of this.

3) http://myspace-541.vo.llnwd.net/00375/14/51/375041541_l.jpg

4) Hmm, I like both. Deerhoof has this continual beat that makes you want to nod along to it. It actually reminds me of an art exhibit I attented a couple of years ago called "Cloud City" by FriendsWithYou, where they had this background music to set an installatio they considered a playgound. I am a sucker for the guitar though, and Sufjan Stevens is a lot like the music I listen to. It's much mellower, and his voice compliments the music beautifully. Ultimately, I would probably go with Sufjan Stevens on a day where I'm being told I can only pick from these two artists. Then again, I could definitely find myself listening to Deerhoof on days where I need to vacuum the house. I'm not sure... I guess I can't decide really. They both have their themes and sounds that make them the artists they are. I can really get into the fact that they both have their own sound, and it doesn't quite remind me of other artists today- unless we're going to mix bands together to get their sound.

5) just one.

thank you for your consideration!

Melissa Pereda (saintannstrack), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 21:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Check your emails.

oink admin (ex machina), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 22:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Salambo
b) Mike
c) 23
d) Male
e) Michigan, USA

1) Skold - Self Titled,
Tweaker - The Attraction To All Things Uncertain,
12 Rounds - My Big Hero

2) Rockism to me is an outlook on music that covers a number of subjects. I would say rockism is definitely based on the principle that originality is not just nonconformity. Far too many artists try to follow a “formula” that’s been established by artists that have already achieved fame and/or success. These pretender bands may still achieve success, but in the eyes of a rock purist these artists are seen for what they really are – impersonators and frauds. A true follower of rockism also has their own taste in music and does not just follow the crowd. A rockist knows what they like, they stick to the genera that most interests them, and in most cases they criticize music that is outside their genera. A rockist appreciates bands that write their own songs, singers that can actually sing (not lip-sync), and members who can actually play their instruments (and not rely on ghost players). A rockist goes to the concerts, buys the cds, and actually also listens to the non-radio songs. Rockism is still alive and well, although blatant conformity and mainstreamism seems to drown out the rockist ideology.

3) http://farm1.static.flickr.com/51/174188570_9e3d0ea466.jpg

4) I’d have to say that I prefer the music of Sufjan Stevens. Being from Michigan (where Sufjan is from) I’ve had the pleasure of seeing him play live and it was an amazing experience. His music is very versatile, spanning from electronic to folk music. I can honestly say I haven’t heard Deerhoof as much as Sufjan Stevens. I’m not all that strict when it comes to song structure, but Deerhoof’s music seems to me to be too experimental for my tastes. It seems to me that Sufjan’s studies in music make him the better artist, while most of the artists in Deerhoof have had little formal training. As far as Sufjan goes, I could do without the Christmas album, as well as the idea of the 50 state project (although I have to admit I love the Michigan and Illinois albums). From what I have heard from Deerhoof, it just seems too improvised and unpolished. Of the two, I definitely prefer Sufjan although I do plan on checking out the new album & EP by Deerhoof.

5) one invite

Mike Anderson (salambo), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

how did u find this website

am0n (am0n), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

web 2.0

the kwisatz bacharach (sanskrit), Tuesday, 30 January 2007 23:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

In response to...
"Check your emails.

-- oink admin (jo...), January 30th, 2007."
Should we have received something?

Tom N, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 01:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

Our 2007 Oink invite request form has been finalized, at the moment we have 23 Oink invites up for grabs. Oink invites will be given out only to those who post a request form here with completed answers in full. If you are incapable of following these instructions, how can we expect you to maintain respectable upload ratios?
a) Imhackin or bwhaytack
b) Blake
c) 19
d) M
e) WA, USA


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week?

Everything Under the Sun
Stadium Arcadium
Freezepop Forever

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is idolizing rock and barley standing rap. Loving the live concert but cant stand the music videos. Basically any means of valuing music in a way that your on one side of things. Having your opinions about music that makes it your own. The term came from rockist which is like being rock not listening to it. Usually anti-rockism is violently pro-pop. Its the critisism of music in a way of you listen to it and no one can take it away from you. Being music and opposing others.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://stefanogiovannini.com/portfolios/catpowerpics/image-html/06-chan.html

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Im going to have to say deerhoof because everyone can like this music. Her voice is a little different but more rockerish rather than Sufjan Stevens whos music is more softer and emoish. More guitar and different than everyone else because of her voice. Music seems more of a red hot chillie peppers with a different voice. It also has louder music and doesn't make you as depressed as much. Its almost as if you could use deerhoof as party music but you couldn't for Sufjan Stevens. Also has a good rythem instead of slow soft voice with a fade beat. Has a faster tempo, better rythem, and not as emotion rock.

5) How many invites do you require?

Only one please

i worked hard on this and it would be really nice if you could send me an invite
thanks

Confirmed Oink invites (or rejections) will be posted here in 1-3 working days. Check back here at that time, requests to expedite the approval process will result in immediate rejection.

Blake Hay (sk8_to_snw), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 01:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thank you for reminding us of that important last point. Blake Hay is now approved.

Should we have received something?

-- Tom N (withoutadoubt...) (webmail), Today 8:03 PM. (later) (link)

Tom N had been approved, now has 90 day IP ban.

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 02:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

there's no justice like oink justice

gake email adress (Pablo A), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 03:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

just to let you know there is under slashes in the spaces in sk8_to_snw

thanx

Blake Hay (sk8_to_snw), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 04:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

:)

Oink Admin (Confounded), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 05:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Yonu
b) John
c) 24
d) male
e) Bucharest ROmania

1) Lynn Teeter Flower --- Maria Taylor
Myths of the near future - Klaxons
New magnetic wonder---The apples in Stereo
2) Rockism says my music is better then yours

3) http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7917/catpowerfont3pr0.jpg
4) I cannot say which artist is better but i can say that i like Deerhoof better , it's not realy my kind of music , but on the other hand nether Surfjan Stevans is. I relate to Deerhoof because the message of the songs and for that Satomi Matsuzaki who has a beutiful voice.

5)1


Geambasu Ionut, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Bradya
b) Andy
c) 20
d) Male
e) Brisbane, Australia

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

The Rapture – Pieces of the People We Love [320Kbps],
The Good, the Bad and the Queen - The Good, the Bad and the Queen [192Kbps],
The Shins- Wincing the Night Away [192Kbps].

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is the view that rock is music in its purist form. Everything else is built off the base of rock and roll, using it as a starting point on which to evolve. In a sense, the comparison of all other forms of music to Rock and Roll could be called rockism. It originated in the 60’s and 70’s through the British music media, by writers for magazines like ‘Rolling Stone’. Penning stories about the pioneers of rock, like the Stones and Beatles, these writers set the scene for generations to come. Through their writing, they created a kind of ‘Renaissance of Rock’, and as such the idea of rockism. All forms of music can now be compared to this ‘Renaissance’. Rockism exists in everyone who knows any thing about rock and roll, and helps define what our individual musical tastes are based on. Some may view it as closed mindedness and musical snobbism, but rockism in my view represents that little part in all of us which clings to where we came from.

3) A link to your favorite picture of Cat Power: http://www.kuci.org/~ziba/cp.JPG

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Having not being exposed to a great deal of Deerhoof, I find it difficult to compare the two artists. But then again the question is who I like better, so my answer is Sufjan Stevens, and I can explain why that is. There is no one word to describe Sufjan Steven music. He can pump out a true indie rock track like “Man of Metropolis”, then contrast it with the bare acoustics and truly haunting vocals of a song like “Casimir Pulaski Day”. He is one of the few artists who could sing a track acapella, and have it sound just as good as if it had been accompanied by one of his faultless orchestral compositions. Who else could find an additive place for an accordion? Sufjan Stevens manages to cover all bases, and I would find I truly impossible for someone to not find one of his tracks which they enjoy. Illinois is one of my favourite albums of all time, and I can always count on a Sufjan tune to act as a soundtrack to my life. Bring on state number three.

5) One Please.

Bradya, Wednesday, 31 January 2007 13:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) j1mmy ( was my old one if its not allowed to take old ones purborn )
b) Sebastian
c) 20
d) male
e) germany


1) Basshunter - lol , cold - a different kind of pain , kollegah - boss der bosse ( german rap )

2) What is rockism? Rockism is a special way of criticism for pop music. Rockism mostly forgo the use of technology. So rockism express
the auteurs values. So it is the opposite of manafacture popular music . But rockism is purely a way of selfexpression thru the music. The rockism ideology relates to the most authentic and pure music which was created mostly in the 60s & 70s. So rockism describes pure music which hasnt the attend to be commercial or sth like that. But in the endeffect rockism means that the music must fit for you and that is what counts.
3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.sentireascoltare.com/CriticaMusicale/Monografie/catpower/catpower.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof?

They both dont fit my style. So its hard to make a decision. But what I read so long about these both, I would give deerhoof the point because they seem to be more experimental and thats what I like. In my opinion u cant tell so clear who is the better artist ( i dont even have heard a song of them ). So what i read about Sufjan Stevens bored me because he makes Indie Rock and thats not really my partiality. In searched a bit for Deerhoof after i got this Question from you and they sound interesting so I get an first impression. After this, I was sure that I never heard such a mixture of different styles combined with this asian voice. All this gives a interesting mix that I like.
I listened to Sufjan stevens too, but for me he doenst make anything special at all so I vote for Deerhoof.

5) 1

Sebastian (j1mmy), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 16:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Adam Schefter has bunch of free oink invites!!!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

How far off can a "Cat Power pr0n L@@K!" thread be?

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

THE MASK IS BACK

Edward III (edward iii), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 17:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Bonus question: Who invented the MP3 Blog?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 18:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Geambasu Ionut, you are DENIED -- what is it about 8-sentence minimum that you people can't wrap your heads around?

Oink Admin (Confounded), Wednesday, 31 January 2007 19:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) jcd1006
b) Justin
c) 23
d) M
e) TN, USA


1) The Shins - wincing the night away
The Showdown - Temptation Come My Way
Self Against City - Telling Secrets to Strangers

2) What is rockism? It is the idea, from Britian, that suggest what rock music should be. Anything from the instruments, which include bass, guitar, and drums to how the singer acts. It's against videos because they take away from the feel of the real thing. It is also against pop music and the lip syncing that comes with it. Rockism is about the artist and their own writings. It's about the feeling you can get from that band and only that band. Rockism really came about with the 80's rock bands. However it's still in effect and greatly followed.

3) http://www.nowtoronto.com/issues/2006-01-05/music_feature-1.gif

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? I would have to say I think Sufjan Stevens is better. Deerhoof is a little too experimental for me. However her voice is really nice, and goes well with the music. Sufjan is just really laid back music and relaxing. Something that I just sit and listen and daze off to. I think one of the reasons I'm more into Sufjan is because he reminds me of one of my favorite bands Iron and Wine. Just easy listening with good lyrics, always wins me over.

5) How many invites do you require? Just one please


Justin delp, Thursday, 1 February 2007 03:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

What is rockism? Rockism is a special way of criticism for pop music. Rockism mostly forgo the use of technology. So rockism express
the auteurs values. So it is the opposite of manafacture popular music . But rockism is purely a way of selfexpression thru the music. The rockism ideology relates to the most authentic and pure music which was created mostly in the 60s & 70s. So rockism describes pure music which hasnt the attend to be commercial or sth like that. But in the endeffect rockism means that the music must fit for you and that is what counts.

Best plagiarism cover-up EVAH

A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 1 February 2007 05:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Lame on the ban for the copying rockism from wikipedia--there was no mention of a no plagarism rule. But, it's your site. My loss.

Russell Smith, Thursday, 1 February 2007 05:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

hey russell...

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TRU!!!!!!!

Oink Admin (Confounded), Thursday, 1 February 2007 05:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

hi
please invite me to OinK Iam very thank full to you

zohaib, Thursday, 1 February 2007 05:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Iam very thank full to you

should have read: "i will b gr8ful 2 u"

you are banned, next

Oink Admin (Pablo A), Thursday, 1 February 2007 07:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)runningriot1988
b)Kirk
c)18
d)male
e)United States

1)a. Venetian Snares-Cavalcade of Glee and Dadaist Happy Hardcore b. Wire-Pink Flag (remastered) c. Parts and Labor-Stay Afraid
2)Rockism is an ideology that rock music should remain in it's most raw and honest form, without the bullshit. Followers reject music which they believe has no soul because it does not follow a more classic barebones rock structure.
3)http://stefanogiovannini.com/portfolios/catpowerpics/image-html/20-chan.html
4)In my opinion Deerhoof makes music that is more interesting to me. Deerhoof's odd little girl style vocals just give the music such a unique feel. Deerhoof is also known to create some very unique sounds with the guitar that I may hear other places, but they never seem to be executed so well. The drums on Deerhoof's albums also never cease to be nothing short of syncopated genius. Sufjan uses a lot of nice varied instrumentation but something about the music just doesn't grasp me, like I feel that it needs to in order for me to appreciate it more than Deerhoof. The voice to me is a big problem. I feel like I have heard it so many times before, although the context in which it is used is very different. They are both great but Deerhoof is to unique and too well constructed for me to ignore.
5)one

kirk mcgowan, Thursday, 1 February 2007 09:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

These pictures are making me kind of hott for Chan.

onimoink admin (onimo), Thursday, 1 February 2007 10:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) wmits
b) william
c) 100-78
d) dude
e) montreal


1) not an album, but the complete em-pee-thrography of New Young Pony Club
the one with Boris and the guy from Ghost
dat dere new Beyonce

2) Rockism is a filthy plague. Rockism is the terror that flaps in the night. Rockism is to music as herpes is to 18-35 gentlemen in urban areas. Rockism hates 808s almost as much as I hate rockism. Rockism is a boiling pot of cranberries. Rockism is 12% less fun than The Karate Kid 2 as decided by a panel of forty-two year old self-proclaimed "modernists." Rockism is everything the Nation of Islam isn't. Rockism is, unfortnately.

3) http://prometheus.med.utah.edu/~bwjones/C1276349108/E266581637/Media/Caterpillar%20mining%20truck.jpg
THAT'S REAL CAT™ POWER.

4) Deerhoof is better than Sufjan Stevens. First of all, numbers don't lie: Deerhoof has more boobs, 2-1. Secondively, in a fight, three nerds and karate usually beat one nerd. Also, Deerhoof has not promised to make fifty albums I don't care about, earning them a point. To the SS's credit, he has a song about Gacy to his name, but it's not enough to save him. I have never made it through an SS album without getting bored about 7 minutes in. I bet bananas in your armpits hurts more than feeling any sort of noise, let alone the Illinoise variety. Can you tell I'm running out of ideas for new sentences? Because I am. That's why Sufjan kneels at the altar of the Hoof.

5) I'll take two if you got 'em but I'll take one if you don't.

Will M. (Will M.), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

I LOVE YOU

Oink Admin (Confounded), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

xpost

Also, I'm real and I post on (or at least read) ILG all of the time I just don't make my way over to ILE and stuff very often because I'm A) a poxy fule and B) I don't really love "everything." I do however love a ham sandwich now and then.

Will M. (Will M.), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

o thanks friend :]

Will M. (Will M.), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

kudos for your cat power pic, Will. I'll have to ask the other admins if we'll allow it, though. i have to say though, you're probably gonna get banned for being so saucy.

Oink Admin (A. Lingbert), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

that's fair. i would have done better if i were a bigger fan of guitars, sufjan or deerhoof, but cookies and crumbling and all that.

Will M. (Will M.), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Will M undeniably approved. Also forward him guess papers.

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Thursday, 1 February 2007 19:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Vinetari
b) Alex
c) 20
d) Male
e) London, Ontario, Canada


1)Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

i) Girl Nobody - 2004 - The Future Isn't What It Used [224kbs]
ii) Robyn - Dont Stop The Music [192kbs
iii) Robyn - 1997 - Robyn Is Here [192kbs]

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism, by the standard definition, is a belief or view that rock music is the standard and everything else is based around it. Usually situated around basic instruments, lead and rhythm guitars, bass guitar, and drums, it will usually flow in a standard rock and roll song structure (verse, chorus, bridge, chorus).

Rockism, to me though, is all about rocking out to the sounds of the beast that is rock! Throw in your favorite Iron Mainden album and you’ll know what I mean. It will lift you up when you’re down, and it will keep you flying high when you’re feeling excellent. It’s the feeling you get when you’re rockin’ you’re electric guitar (or playing GuitarHero). It’s my morning wake up call and my evening good-night. Rockism is what I will find on my quest for the answer to life on the top of a tall mountain instead of an old man with long grey hair. Rockism is the spice of life running through our veins.


3)Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.clickmusic.com/upload/catpower400.jpg

4)Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

In my opinion, Sufjan Stevens is better then Deerhoof. For one, I find that Satomi Matsuzak sounds too high and “child-like” for my liking. Sufjan Stevens on the other hand is a signer/songwriter, which means he’s doing twice as much as some other music people do. Although some of his songs contain Christian messages, which I tend to stay away from, I still find it more of a listening pleasure then Deerhoof. Sufjan Stevens’s conceptual idea of 50 albums for 50 states is a great one. If completed, there would be many more Sufjan Stevens albums then Deerhoof albums, which means more songs to listen to. That’s a good thing because everyone knows more is better, especially when it comes to a music collection. If I had to put money down on it, I would throw down $100 on Sufjan Stevens for the win, or possibly just to place. Either way, it would be a better outcome then Deefhoofs.

5) How many invites do you require?

One please.

Alex V, Thursday, 1 February 2007 20:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

what's a guess paper?

Will M. (Will M.), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND IRE AT ALL. SOMEONE EXPLAIN PLZ. I am going mad.

Will M. (Will M.), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Guess papers for Dalit here

pabs (Pablo A), Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) jonnyheadphones
b) jon
c) 26
d) male
e) nyc

1) All of a Sudden, I Miss Everyone - Explosions in the Sky
Hissing Fauna, Are You the Destroyer? - Of Montreal
The Good, The Bad and The Queen (self-titled)

2) Rockism is the critical belief that rock music is better than other forms of popular music. Inherently better, that is, than say synthetically produced music because of the use of standard rock instruments like electric guitar, drums and electric bass. electro and hip hop is cool, but music performed with standard rock 'n roll instrumentation, for lack of a better word, rocks! for this reason, i'm a fan of post-rock -- intrumental atypical rock'n'roll music played with rock'n'roll instrumentation (ie: explosions in the sky rawk!). another example would be the hip-hop group The Roots. they rock more than chingy because they lay their grooves down with rock'n'roll instruments. damn, it's hard to write eight sentences like about this.

3) ok, i'll help fuel your chan marsall obsession: http://flickr.com/photos/chadwadsworth/247795411/. she hearts you too!

4) while Deerhoof's experimental music is cool, i have to side with Sufjan on this one. first of all, he's written christian music that doesn't suck; he expresses his faith without trying to evangelize. second, he likes the fifty states of america. third, he managed to write a song about the serial killer john wayne gacy that isn't super creepy. fourth, he has possibly the hottest women in indie rock playing the glockenspiel in his band: katrina kerns (http://www.badmintonstamps.com/images/katrina.bmp and http://www.zachklein.com/2005/08/ladies-and-gentlemen-sufjan-stevens.html). fifth, the dude can flat out sing. sixth, the dude can flat out write a song. seventh, his name is soof-yan... that's right, soof-yan. how can bambi's foot compare to that list?

5) just one, please. thank you senor piggie.

jon ferrer, Thursday, 1 February 2007 21:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Nightwatch

b) Olly

c) 21

d) Male

e) Hampshire, UK


1) Blackalicious- Blazing Arrow, Massive Attack- Collected, The Album Leaf- Into the Blue again


2)Rockism is a post modern term used to describe a way in which some people critically analyze music. It originated in the 80's after the so called "golden age of rock". It is usually used to describe an idealistic or perhaps romantic notion of what rock music should be in it's purest form. It's holding a particular piece as the ultimate pinnacle of what that genre should aspire to be and then comparing any aspect of it's structure and make up with something else, usually a more modern piece thats currently in the charts. It doesn't really matter how different it is in style or even genre because it's being held against a particular set of cardinal standards determined by the critic. Sometimes it's used in a slightly less broad sense to describe music that was 'meaningful', 'written with a timeless quality' or 'made to last through the ages.' It isn't always used to describe the music and band themselves but also the entire culture that surrounds it including fashion, politics and beliefs. Some would see it as an obnoxious or snobbish way of reviewing music, perhaps destined to wear out as music branches further away from what the popular idea of good rock music is. Wow, I sounded like a bit of an arse reading all that back. Oh well. :)


3) http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/mexillent/catpower_full.jpg


4) This ones going to be harder. I've only ever ever heard one album by each artist and it's tough to beat 'Illious' by any stretch. Personally from what i've heard i'd say Surjan Stevens is the more likable artist. It's perhaps unjust to call him "better", but I think he's more accessible. Deerhoof's music is more experimental and un-predictable from what i've listened to. I liked his style but I didn't think it was as brilliant as Illinos, which is probably a masterpiece. Steven's music has an honesty and a feeling like your listening to something really well crafted. His music's quirky oddness feels more natural than Deerhoof's.
I think both artists require more than one listen to fully appreciate. Maybe sometime i'll give Deerhoof another go.


5) 1

Olly. B, Thursday, 1 February 2007 22:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) headmaster_ritual
b) James
c) 18
d) Male
e) Bay Area, CA

(All at least 192+)
1) Babyland - The Finger, Minutemen - Double Nickels On The Dime, Milanese - Extend

2) Rockism is the use of only bass, guitar and drums and the non-use of electronics in music. I think this is bullshit, if we're ever going to move forward in rock music we need to bring new sounds and new instruments to the game. If you take away the power to progress, rock is going to die. Under "rockism", most of the music you and I love, wouldn't have happened. While I agree that music is over produced today, it doesn't mean we have to go back to reel to reel. Think of a world without New Order. That's a world I don't want to live in.

3) http://www.bls-act.co.jp/images/db/cat_power.jpg

4) Deerhoof is the better band. Mr. Stevens rehashes old folk song styles and a tired sound. Deerhoof is one of those band that progresses, you pick up a Deerhoof album and it might take a while for you to get into it. But, once you do, you're loving it. Sufjan, I don't see anything special in his music. Deerhoof is a band that has a unique sound for our generation, people will look back in 20 years and see Deerhoof albums as generation landmarks. While Stevens album "Illinois" is not a bad album by any means. It's just forgettable.

5) 1 or 2


James Laurence, Thursday, 1 February 2007 23:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) ComicMaster
b) Andrew
c) 16
d) Male
e) Pennsylvania, USA


1) Aphex Twin - Analogue Bubblebath 5 , Fatboy Slim - The Greatest Hits : Why Try Harder, Ace Of Base - Da Capo


2) Well, I'm going to be honest, and say that I've never heard of it before now. Therefore, I'm not going to lie and pretend that I know about it. At first, I think that it sounds like some kind of genre of music, but after reading a few other replies, I realize I'm quickly wrong. Apparently, it is basically talking about elitism in rock music, and we all know how much people love that. What do I think about elitism and saying that all rock music will never be as good as the classics? The fact that people who say that need to listen to more different types of music and appreciate the fact that bands play whatever they want. They could be playing mainstream rap and talking about sex and whores and drugs and pimps and how "gangster" they are, but instead they chose to plug in a guitar and play. Why cannot everyone just accept rock as rock and stop comparing stuff all the time? The fact that some people are even trying to make rock music is good enough, and they could do without being insulted for never being as good as the "classics". Well I guess within that period of time I just learned what Rockism is....

3) <3 http://i7.tinypic.com/40eo0ad.png

4) I've never heard of either. I'm also afraid that if I go up and actually do what I should've done from the beginning (go to wikipedia), that I will find out who these people actually are, and I'll be more ashamed than I already am as of right now. As it's going, in comparison to how I was before I entered this page, I know I'm not getting the invite, and I'm just having fun now because I'm bored. I take it they are probably both good and both have strong and negative artistic qualities. omg I think that's eight sentences....and after counting it just _looks_ that way! : D

5) Enough to get me into the site, to get rid of boredom, or both.

Andrew J. D., Thursday, 1 February 2007 23:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Deemanda
b) Amanda
c) 19
d) Female
e) Lbc, Ca, US


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
Folsom- If you're a Viper, Trashzone- DRI, Then There Were None- Red Scare

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Copy and paste wikidpedia definition here. Fuck that, here's what "rockism" means to me. When asked the question, what is rockism one must take many criteria into mind. Actually that's complete bullshit, it all leads down to the fact that opinions are like assholes, mine's just better than yours. This parallels into the music world, where simply some music is better than other. Unfortunately, the world is not quite ready for this as some music out there is complete shit and unfortunately has developed a massive following due to the fact that the majority of the population has become musically impotent. Music is either good, or bad.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.myconfinedspace.com/watermark.php?src=wp-content/uploads/2006/07/hitler-kitty.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Sufjan Stevens. You know how some things are just better than others? Well, this is one of those situations. Sure some wanna be pretentious indie hipster trolling the internet, I mean local record store might come across Deerhoof on myspace, cough, I mean "vinyl" and think Deerhoofs the best thing since shitty starbucks coffee, but I've never really gone along with what those types have to say. I mean Sufjan sure is a hell of a lot more motivated. Any man who wants to try and capture all 50 states in a collection of 50 cds obviously has some drive. Illinois was one hell of a download, cough, I mean album. Deerhoof might be one of those bands that sounds better while one's head is emerged in water, has consumed large amounts of mind altering chemicals, or otherwise. Point remains, Sufjan Stevens is just better.

5) How many invites do you require?
Just one please.

Deemanda, Friday, 2 February 2007 00:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

REQUEST oink invite
Name: longwalkhome
Age 66
USA
Male
Regards.......

longwalkhome, Friday, 2 February 2007 00:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

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pabs (Pablo A), Friday, 2 February 2007 00:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

basically

Confounded (Confounded), Friday, 2 February 2007 04:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is there an oink invite left?

I'd love to have on!

Thx in advance.

Obi

ObiKenobi, Friday, 2 February 2007 05:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Plz to follow rules of first post Tobias Hanika

Oink Admin (Confounded), Friday, 2 February 2007 07:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) tjblackb
b) Tobias
c) 20
d) Male
e) Cary, NC


1) Emery - The Weak's End, Saosin - Saosin, Corey Smith - Undertones

2) I think that rockism is a bit of a loaded word, depending on your musical taste. Generally, it is the ideal that gross sales don't justify liking a particular song or band, but that a band should be judged by the "truth" in their music. When this term gained popularity it was closely associated to 1970s-80s classic rock, and therefore associated simply with music that consisted of guitar, bass, drums (and being grossly appalled at anything produced synthetically. However, the real meaning behind it has really been transposed into other genres of music since this meaning follows with the general nature of people. This being the typical "sell out" comments or the satisfaction one gets from saying "that band was good, before they got popular". This is the general attitude of many people, and they will often not listen to a band because they are popular. This attitude is present across genres, whether it be rap, emo, alt rock, you name it. I do believe that some bands simply ride their initial popularity, and i think that the term rockism discriminates against them, as it should. However, it should also be important to realize that each person should listen to the music first and decide for themselves whether they like it or not.

3) http://img.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/060120/1203__cat_l.jpg

4) I don't think anyone can win an argument saying either is better. I particularly enjoy Stevens better. I admire how they both pursued the same ideals in their music. Yet they both pursue this in different ways and with a different understanding of music to begin with. Sufjan was introduced to music in a very formal way, and i think that his music shows this clearly. Even though he is pushing for innovation in music through his songs, it still has a structured feel. Deerhoof on the other hand, seems to have a raw unfinished nature about it. Their music is a lot more focused on the clashes between the different elements in their music. I think this differs from Stevens' music in that his seems to focus on having smooth transitions between elements in songs.

5) 1

Tobias Blackburn, Friday, 2 February 2007 09:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username : Vuli
b) first name (no surnames) : Dan
c) age : 22
d) gender : Male
e) geographic location : Romania

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
Parov Stelar - Rough Cuts; Gothan project - lunatico; Dimitri from Paris - A Night at the Playboy Mansion

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
It's a term invented by the critics for the sake of criticism. It's difficult to speak about authenticity when you have billions of sound variations using the same technology. Lets take an hypothetical artist that is sincerely expressing himself through the music he creates. He should be authentic. But given the fact that that artist has a musical culture that is based on the expressions of other artists, he won't be authentic. So his work could easily get bad critique. Which sucks, but his listeners don't think about that, they go with his flow. Or not. Narf!
3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/index.html

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
I'm a visual "artist" :(, I can say that I like neither... :((

5) How many invites do you require?
One please... please

Dan Vuletici, Friday, 2 February 2007 10:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: thespeedwagon
b) first name (no surnames): aryo
c) age: 25
d) gender: male
e) geographic location: just moved from indonesia to virginia, US


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
michael jackson -- thriller
DFA compilation #1
hot chip -- mixture

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
I was curious as to what Wikipedia offered on the definition of rockism, so I looked it up, and I strongly disagree with the one they offered. According to their definition, the existence of the phrase itself is a paradox. I believe that rockism doesn't necessarily have to conform to the standards of being "rock'n'roll" or even "authentic". I mean, all the genres of music had to start with some basic form of music, then evolved into what they are now, right? You can play funk in an electronic band, and as long is you get the audience to shake their bodies or nod their heads, I believe that you have achieved a certain authenticity. Of course, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.shirtkiller.com/LiteCommerce/images/catpower_big.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Before Deerhoof came up with Reveille, Sufjan Stevens. After Reveille, Deerhoof, for sure. I don't know, just a matter of taste, I guess. If I were in my teens but in this day and age, I would probably go with Deerhoof 100%. Besides I have a thing for bands with crazy Japanese lead singers. Apple O' just sealed the deal for me since the transformation of the band became really sonically visible. Of course it started from Reveille, but Apple O' for me showed the maturity of the soundscape they were able to produce. Sufjan Stevens, to me at least, sounds like he just recycles his style (with a little bit of spunk here and there) each album.

5) How many invites do you require?
1

aryo speedwagon (aryo), Friday, 2 February 2007 18:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: neverwin
b) first name: drew
c) age: 30
d) gender: male
e) geographic location: Manhattan NY

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week:
!!! - Myth Takes
Air - Pocket Symphony
LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Rockism is a pseudo-intellectual term invented during a simpler time but currently likely employed by people who are either self conscious or untalented. Of course music made by corporate suits is distasteful to an individualist but the term does not pertain to a digital age where the tenants of music production are rapidly degrading. Just as post-modern makes no sense in a post-post-modern world "Rockism" has likewise lost its necessity. For these reasons those who subscribe to this term literally or figuratively are suspect in their intentions and most likely feigning music literacy. In conclusion, rockism is a pseudo-intellectual term likely employed by people who are either self conscious or untalented.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://superherouniverse.com/other/thundercats/images/cheetara.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Well the short and uncreative answer is neither. However I can only guess that you want my opinon and I will have to safely say that it depends on the day for me, even the hour. I am graduate student in biochemistry and wear wireless headphones while I work in a laboratory. Therefore I would say that Sufjan Stevens is more suited to small detail work such as setting up reactions. Conversely Deerhoof is a little higher energy and is "better" for higher energy activites like washing glassware.

5) How many invites do you require?
one please

Drew Waight, Friday, 2 February 2007 19:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username : 111133
b) first name : jie
c) age : 22
d) gender : male
e) geographic location: Malaysia

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week:
-Azuli Presents Roger Sanchez Choice-Unmixed DJ Format
-Gabriel And Dresden-The Legends
-James Brown-Soul Legends

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Most white critics 90's grew up immersed in rock, rockism is an approach to music that uses the values of one genre as an unquestioned set of rules and then judges other music by those values. The normative genre has historically been rock. The concept of rockism is truly unique to music; the idea of a critical discourse warped by the values of one genre. While rockism continues to define metal and fuels many of the new male country singers, two of its bulwarks these days are rap, hip hop and the former subculture still sometimes labeled alternative

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://img181.imageshack.us/my.php?image=catpowerpicno9.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Sufjan Stevens, He is known for his lyrically focused and instrumentally songs in genres mostly on Folk, Indie rock, Experimental. His songs are on the soothing side where it brings calm and sensual on ones ears. Deerhoof, was formed in 1994. They are known in genres on Pop Rock music, Noise Rock, Alternative Rock, Musical improvisation. With the high funky vocal notes of japan mix styles, it brings the groove that able to tap my feet along. For me, im into the upbeats of groove and funk, im in for Deerhoof.

5) How many invites do you require?
just one, please. Thank you very much.

111133 (111133), Saturday, 3 February 2007 04:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

lol

mookieproof (mookieproof), Saturday, 3 February 2007 10:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) arthurthecrab
b) Colin
c) 22
d) M
e) London, UK


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Edan - Beauty & The Beat
Klaxons - Myths of the Near Future
Ellen Allien & Apparat - Orchestra of Bubbles

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

It. Is. Knowing. When. Something. Totally. Fucking. Rocks!

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://members.aol.com/realwaileaestate/images/cat%20w-machine%20gun.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

I'm going to go with Deerhoof on this one. I find them significantly more engaging live and Apple O' maintains a place in my top twenty-five albums of all time, particularly on a warm, sunny summer afternoon.
However, I'd certainly question how you can simply state that one artist is 'better' than another. I think this question needs a little more clarification. I mean, Sufjan would probably beat Satomi in a wrestling match, but she'd be totally better than him at yelping and maybe even fishing. However, if Sufjan were to join Deerhoof, then the united forces of these two behemoths of alternative music would surely be immense to the point of causing upset to infants. Similarly, if Deerhoof were to play as Sufjan's backing band on his next tour, I can imagine 'Casimir Pulaski Day' sound quite different. Possibly even better? BETTER AT WHAT?

5) How many invites do you require?

Just one please! Love you!

crabstain, Saturday, 3 February 2007 13:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) abbanda
b) amanda
c) 21
d) female
e) washington, dc


1) the knife "silent shout", caetano veloso "ce", quasimoto "the unseen"

2) rockism is an ideology that tends to favor heterosexual white males, because its main belief is that there was a "golden age" of pure music (usually thought to be the 60's and 70's). Rockism is a sexist, racist, homophobic ideology.


3) http://static.flickr.com/93/214600805_cff9288d2d_o.jpg

4) Personally, I enjoy Deerhoof's chaotic, distinctive music more, however Sufjan Stevens just played in DC and the lines wrapped around 4 blocks, so he must be doing something correcticut.

5) How many invites do you require?
one.

Amanda Bloomfield, Saturday, 3 February 2007 19:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Barry_Normal
b) Damon
c) 41
d) Male
e) West Midlands, England

1) Labour of Love - UB40, At His Very Best - Robert Palmer, Late Registration - KAnye West
2) Rockism was invented in the 1980s in England. It started during the 2-Tone Movement of bands like the Specials and the Beat who were mixed race groups playing Ska-influenced music. They broke down a lot of barriers in the British music scene at the time. The first record to get to number 1 with a Black British singer was "Ghost Town" by the Specials. This led to a much greater racial integration in British music with bands like Thompson Twins and Big Country all featuring black members, not to mention my favourites the mighty UB40. Some music fans opposed this trend and continued to support white only bands like Iron Maiden or Duran Duran. This reaction was known as Rockism. Is that 8 sentences? ;-)
3) http://www.indietronica.com/IMG/Cat_power.jpg (I had to look her up on Google. Pretty fit!)
4) From what I've heard of Deerhoof they're a shitty comedy band so I have to choose Sufjan Stevens. He writes some classic tunes with lots of feeling, and his lyrics are up there with the greats for me. He has a tendency to do too many stupid noodling "experimental" bits on his albums but as a songwriter he's great. I'd like to hear him do more solo acoustic stuff and get away from the overblown band thing. Deerhoof sound like a Midlands group from the 80s called We've Got a Fuzzbox and We're Gonna Use It. They were a crappy novelty band who dressed like Punks and played really bad versions of proper songs. I don't like novelty bands or bands who play badly whether it's on purpose or not. It's just music for students pretending to be funny or clever. So then, Sufjan.
5) Just the one invite please. Thanks.

Barry Normal (Barry Normal), Saturday, 3 February 2007 19:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) macboy9000
b) Greg
c) 23
d) male
e) Chicago

1) Oingo Boingo: Skeletons in the Closet, The Beatles: Abby Road, Lucky Number

Slevin (The official soundtrack).
2) Rockism is the old-school love and production of classic American rock. It dates

back to British rock around the seventies, and mainly describes music that includes

the classic array of rock intruments, namely guitar, bass, and drums. Rockism

values the old methodologies and use of original instruments, and strays away from

the use of electronic keyboards and the like. Many dislike the ideas proposed by

rockism because of the wide range of controversial subjects it covers. It

sometimes, rather than simply creating a new, and sometimes awful sound, borrows

ideas from different genres, including disco and hip hop, and uses them together.

Critics have also charged it with supporting racism, sexism, and homosexuality,

because the artists that generally produce for it are heterosexual white males. In

my own personal opinion though, rockism produced some of the best rock, and i listen

to it more than I listen to any other music. Except maybe techno ;)
3) http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/macboy9000/cat200.jpg
4) I don't really have a preference, mainly because I've only heard a few of their

stuff, but my room mate perfers deerhoof. He likes them better because they've been

around longer and he's had more experience with them, and views Stevens as kind of a

wannabe who stole from deerhoof. I think they both sound interesting, but haven't

really analized the music much. If i get the account I'll be sure to look for some

of them :D
5) Just one.

Greg Stefanopolis, Saturday, 3 February 2007 21:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username bray
b) first name (no surnames)Derk Landers
c) age 29
d) gender Male
e) geographic location NC


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week What haven't I shared is a better answer.. I have an FTP

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum) rockism? guess I could google it.. but I will do that if someone gives me an account..

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power.. Cat Power? What the heck is that? I have a cat.. does that mean he has powers?

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum) I wouldn't know..

5) How many invites do you require? 1


Derk Landers, Sunday, 4 February 2007 01:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

This is still going on?

jimn (jimnaseum), Sunday, 4 February 2007 04:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Derek Landers Borchardt (bray71377@gmail.com) has been rejected for an Oink invite.

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Sunday, 4 February 2007 04:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

xpost. Kudos on the Chan Marshall pics tho.

jimn (jimnaseum), Sunday, 4 February 2007 04:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

This is still going on?

Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's Just Begun

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Sunday, 4 February 2007 04:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

now it looks like it will be a challenge to get one... if i've not mistaken now there are 33 ppl with full answer... from that 23 Oink invites up for grabs... i still love oink admin for givin the p2p community a chance... thanks... cheers!

111133 (111133), Sunday, 4 February 2007 05:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) broadbeans
b) Dean
c) 19
d) male
e) London, UK


1) Beck - The Information, Klaxons - Myths of the Near Future, Murder by Death - In Bocca Al Lupo

2) Rockism is an interesting ideology that criticizes music based on its "authenticity" in relation to the Rock n' Roll concept supposedly perfected during the 70s and 80s. Anything that seems to branch away from such a concept is thought to compromise the purity of the music and therefore its authenticity. While some may argue that because the ideology of rockism is normally catered towards heterosexual white males, it is racist, sexist and a whole of other "ists" generally created when everyone takes everything too seriously. There are admirable qualities of rockism, the take on creating music with pure creativity in mind, not subject to the restraints of the music industry. However, current capitalist trends tend to crush those who are unable to adapt to change. On the other hand, others claim that rockism is not such a thing, but a "dichotomy between art and commerce". The trend of criticism tends to source from extreme views of this ideology, on both sides of the spectrum, rather than an unbiased, moderate view of rockism.

3) http://www.theheadsofstate.com/portfolio/img/catpower/1.jpg

4) While I enjoy both approximately the same, I sort of prefer the light hearted, whimsical sound of Sufjan's Illinois. For some reason I can also relate to the Christian allusions in Seven Swans. The chaotic and occasionally awe inspiring and unrelenting sounds of Deerhoof sometimes scares me and doesn't help me go to sleep. Even though it is good for what it is. While "better" is a rather obscure term and I can bore you philosophically telling you why "perfect" is relative, I like Sufjan Stevens better than Deerhoof, but give me Kings of Convenience any day of the week.

5) Between 0-1. I think one is a more preferable number however.

DeanW, Sunday, 4 February 2007 15:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: citygirl123
b) first name: Sandra
c) age 24
d) gender: female
e) geographic location: Belgium, Europe


1)Beenie Man – Art and life [192kbps]
J-Live – All of The Above [192kbps]
Roots Manuva – Awfully Deep [192kbps]

2) Rockism means idolizing the authentic old legend (or underground hero) while mocking the latest pop star; lionizing punk while barely tolerating disco; loving the live show and hating the music video; extolling the growling performer while hating the lip-syncher. Rockism isn't unrelated to older, more familiar prejudices - that's part of why it's so powerful, and so worth arguing about. The reason why OutKast and the Roots and Mos Def and the Beastie Boys get taken so much more seriously than other rappers is because rockist critics love it when hip-hop acts impersonate rock 'n' roll bands. Rockism is imperial: it claims the entire musical world as its own. Rock 'n' roll is the unmarked section in the record store, a vague pop-music category that swallows all the others. If you write about music, you're presumed to be a rock critic. There's a place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for doo-wop groups and folk singers and disco queens and even rappers - just so long as they, y'know, rock. While there are many definitions of what rockism is, the best summary is when rock music is percived as the 'normative' state of popular music, which means that any other form of music (pop, Hip-Hop - any genre which has emerged over the past couple of decades)is not percieved as worthy of rock n' roll. Rockism is an attitude about evaluating music, and as critics or listeners with critical ears, it would only make sense to be tolerant about the issue, to level the playing field as best we can.

3) http://www.rockobrobje.com/catp_p1.jpg

4)I dind’t know any of the two artists so I checked around on the internet and I heard Sufjan’s “songs for Christmas”.That’s way over the top if you wanna be recognized as an authentic artists in my book. After being exposed to these highly irritating soundtracks, I got on Deerhoof’s myspace. I found their live video’s they posted on there a very good reason to never go and see a live show of them. A very messy and uncontrolled sound must blast from every stage they are performing on and if that’s what people like about them, that’s okay with me but in my opinion they got a long way to go to make it in my collection. The only one I liked was the drummer, he can lay it down but the guitar and vocals are terrible in my opinion. So now I have to choose between two artists I don’t like wich one I like better. Despite the Christmas album I heard, I choose Sufjan Stevens, at least it sounded clean.

5) I require only one invite for myself, thank you.

citygirl123 (citygirl123), Sunday, 4 February 2007 16:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

i still like mine best

Will M. (Will M.), Sunday, 4 February 2007 17:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

1. Bishop Desmond Tutu
2. Jay Jay
3. 31
4. Yes, please
5. 818 18th St, Chicago IL

1) Patience and Prudence - 'Greatest Hits'; Uncle Dave Macon - 'Keep My Skillet Good and Greasy: Box Set'; Elk Mating Rituals - 'Eponymous'

2) Rockism is a delicious jam produced by Smuckers. It comes in multiple fruit flavors, each one more tasty than the next. Some people believe that it was brought to us as a gift from Jesus, but this has been proved untrue in the second Star Wars movie ('Empire', not the other one). Sometimes I like to eat rockism spread between two intact rockists and this makes me an anthropagiast. I'm seeking counselling, but the real bottom line is that a taste this vibrant and powerful cannot be denied. A rose is a rose is a rockist rose. With a name like rockism, it's gotta be good. This is the eighth sentence.

3) http://www.newphx.com/Pic/PowerCat/PowerCatuncon2.jpg

4) No Sufjan, no credibility. No Surfin', no credibilty. No Suffering, no credibility. No Succotash, no suffering. No Sylvester, get down from there. No Puddin', no meat. This is the seventh sentence. No Shoes, no service.

5) No thank you, I'm covered; I just like taking tests.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 4 February 2007 18:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Wordsause
b) Rachel
c) 16
d) Female
e) Minnesota, USA

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Soundrabbit- Music for the Woods, Act II
Down Lo- Lead My Way
Virginia Coalition - Live At the 9:30 Club


2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is a controversial concept that developed in the early 1980's. It is hard to for me to come up with a real meaning for a concept but after doing some research I think that rockism could be just another genre to add to the evergrowing list. But also something I would hear the music snobs saying. Due to the certian authenticity that appeals to them. Those same kind of people could be found as the ones saying "They don't even write their own songs!" And claiming they have heard of a band before they were on the OC and just trying to establish theirself as a musical elitist. Some say rockism refers to the more old school rock, like Bruce Springsteen, opposed to the killers. I think it is when you pick up a cd and every single song is good not just the singles with a bunch of shitty fillers. Overall it is hard to describe a concept that pretty much anyone can pick up and put their own spin on it -- so why even have it?

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.epiclylaterd.com/cha1.jpg


4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
I've gotta say Sufjan Stevens. I gave deerhoof a few listens now and I honestly don't really get it. Upon first listen I caught myself thinking what the heck. The songs are composed well and all the girls voice just kind of annoys me and I cannot tell what she is saying, if those are actual words. But they are interesting and unique I will give them that. Now Sufjan's music is very thought out and I think he is a very talented multi-instrumentalist. His music is relaxing and calming and deerhoof is good I just can't find myself really wanting to listen to.

5) 1 please :)

Rachel Knoll, Sunday, 4 February 2007 19:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Lowlife
b) Daniel
c) 21
d) Macho Male
e) Stockholm


1)
Animal Collective - Sung Tongs
The Fall - This Nation's Saving Grace
The Fall - Grotesque

2)
Rockism is the ugly and dirty desire to get more and more rock pumped into your brain. This desire is so strong that when you hear about a new place to fulfill your urge you completely block out the world and spend the evening writing paragraphs about rockism. Rockism is not caring that tomorrow you will have to go and bullshit your professor why you couldn't finish an assignment that was due. You can not get rid of the urge unless you have sex. But since the urge reappears as soon as the person next to you want to snuggle, it is best to cure your desire right before you go to sleep. Rockism wont be a problem in the future since it will probably most likely solve global warming as soon as it has infected enough people. However, this infection process is slow but do not despair since there has been found a direct correlation between spread of Rockism and the number of fast moving objects in the world. Therefore, Rockism will concur the world as soon as we can travel at the speed of light (probably within 20 years or so). Finally, Rockism wont survive unless YOU believe in it!

3)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/vikings/images/beliefs/cat.gif


4)
This must be a trick question since I dont like any of them. Sufjan has never seemed challenging enough. It is beautiful but so is taking a crap. It always seems as if something is missing like there could be something more to it. I think this goes for Deerhoof too. But I dont think any of them can be considered to be the best new acts. I would classify them as mediocre. But if I had to choose I would pick Deerhoof because they have better looks than Sufjan. Something I do like is to write very short sentences.

5)
I am only man enough for one!

Daniel Pesos, Sunday, 4 February 2007 19:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

btw wordsauce ur vr pretty

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 4 February 2007 20:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Vlake
b) Cesco
c) 27
d) M
e) Italy (Rome)

1) Teagan and Sara - So jealous [192kbps]; Laura Veirs - Year Of Meteors [192kbps]; Vasco Rossi - The Platinum Collection [192kbps].

2) Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s. The fundamental tenet of rockism is that some forms of popular music, and some musical artists, are more authentic than others. More specifically, authentic popular music fits the rock and roll paradigm; it is made using the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, and fits the structures of a rock and roll song.

3)[URL=http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=369347sl0.jpg][IMG]http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2843/369347sl0.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

4)Escaping,disrespect,playful.In one word childish.It could be begun in this way to describe the Deerhoof.A band from the thousand faceting,that impressive unembarrassment succeeds to make to cohabit in its music elements in evident contradiction between they with one: "the progressive" immediacy of punk and an approach, the garage and the nursery rhyme for children make of they my Preferred ones, even if Sufjan Stevens is much particular one, the American of Michigan has decided to write and to record a every album for single state of the great nation, the cure of the detail is maniacal and every tipsy agreement of an inspiration that in the POP seemed to lack.

5)1 x myself

Vlake, Sunday, 4 February 2007 21:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Vlake
b) Cesco
c) 27
d) M
e) Italy (Rome)

1) Teagan and Sara - So jealous [192kbps]; Laura Veirs - Year Of Meteors [192kbps]; Vasco Rossi - The Platinum Collection [192kbps].

2) Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s. The fundamental tenet of rockism is that some forms of popular music, and some musical artists, are more authentic than others. More specifically, authentic popular music fits the rock and roll paradigm; it is made using the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, and fits the structures of a rock and roll song.

3)[URL=http://img368.imageshack.us/my.php?image=369347sl0.jpg][IMG]http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/2843/369347sl0.th.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

4)Escaping,disrespect,playful.In one word childish.It could be begun in this way to describe the Deerhoof.A band from the thousand faceting,that impressive unembarrassment succeeds to make to cohabit in its music elements in evident contradiction between they with one: "the progressive" immediacy of punk and an approach, the garage and the nursery rhyme for children make of they my Preferred ones, even if Sufjan Stevens is much particular one, the American of Michigan has decided to write and to record a every album for single state of the great nation, the cure of the detail is maniacal and every tipsy agreement of an inspiration that in the POP seemed to lack.

5)1 x myself

Vlake (Vlake), Sunday, 4 February 2007 21:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Exscusme for the 2 post,i'm sorry :lol

Vlake (Vlake), Sunday, 4 February 2007 21:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

trying to apply twice: rejected

OiNK admin (am0n), Sunday, 4 February 2007 22:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok thanks the same one,(however I had post two times for mistake believing that before the time me had not taken)ciao to all.

Vlake (Vlake), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

The number of people plagiarizing their rockism essays is astounding!

Horace deBorchardt [oink forum admin] (ex machina), Monday, 5 February 2007 01:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

I ask excuse I am Italian and I did not know the meant one until yesterday of the Rockism word, therefore I have tried in Internet and I have read and copied the definition,i'm sorry.

Vlake (Vlake), Monday, 5 February 2007 02:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

FAKER

UART variations (ex machina), Monday, 5 February 2007 02:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

LOL REAL

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am0n (am0n), Monday, 5 February 2007 02:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

do u obtain much hard one

pabs (Pablo A), Monday, 5 February 2007 02:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

User Details:

a) lordfrikk
b) Lukas
c) 23
d) M
e) Czech Republic, Europe

Apply Form:

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

1| Thomas Newman - Meet Joe Black OST (320kbps)
2| J.Majik Presents Nightvision (224kbps)
3| Trapt - Unreleased Songs (various)

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

I understand the term rockism/rockist as being derogatory for people who are really CLASSIC rockers listening to all the CLASSIC rock with no sense about something else, something that is not that mainstream.

I found this few sentences about it:
Was a term used in the late 80s in Britain. It indicated people, who don't listen to experimental music or diverse music, but only like straight ahead rock/metal music hence the term rockist. Someone was rockist if they only listened to hard rock music: AC/DC, Black Crowes, Judas Priest/ Gun/ Tesla/ Guns N Roses/Little Angels/ King Swamp/The Almighty/ Def Leppard etc. And their favoutite music night - was "rock nite" - with long hair/leather jacket/ Guns N Roses patches/ jack daniels/ headbanging/ skinny black jeans - i.e. all the rock clichés - I am not going there, it is too rockist. I used to refer in a derogatory manner to someone in University in the late 80s for being too rockist, i.e they use to read only Raw magazine and their music tastes were too rockist.

- DJ Martian

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5220/k9f332biu5.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Let me say right from the start - I don't listen to neither of them. I don't like folk music and I don't like dance music. And as to comparison of these two - I'd say they can't be really compared because they are absolutely different styles of music. I'd be able to say which one is best If I listened to one of them which I don't. Though I'd experiment so I downloaded one song from each. After listening to both of them, I guess I like Deerhoof better because folk music if as far from me as it gets.

5) How many invites do you require?

1

Lukas Kucharczyk, Monday, 5 February 2007 08:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) kashback
b) Alan
c) 24
d) male
e) UK


1) Regina Spektor - 11:11, Alexisonfire - Crisis, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Abbatoir Blues and the Lyre of Orpheus

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

It depends ont he context, surely? On one hand, it could mean the verious standards of what a rock-type group should look, sound and act, what makes someone rockist, almost obsessed with what they specifically believe is 'rock', and believing that others' opinions are invariably incorrect. More recently, the term has also come to mean the feelings of revulsion and prejudice towards those of the more rock-based subcultures that are becoming more noticable in society today, in the same vein of racism and the like, often resuting in verbal or physical abuse directed towards those whom are seen as being into non-mainstream dance and the like on a purely appearance-based standard.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.nme.com/images/62_cat_power_131005_L.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Sufjan Stevens is definitely my preferred artist. He has a smooth, relaxing vocal style and a soothing musical folk style that either gives me goosebumps or helps me into a deep sleep, depending on my mood. His lyrical descriptions on 'Michigan' do more than just describe the places he sings about, but make you know what they feel like, both in spirit and in dynamic. I personally felt that Illinois was much weaker, however, and it was showing that attempting a project as ambitious as his '50 States' idea was more than likely a bit of a joke, more than anything.
Thoguh not as experimental or lateral-thinking as Deerhoof, I feel his style is more solid, and shows fewer signs of 'jumping the shark', musically, than they do, also.

5) How many invites do you require?

Just the one.

Alan R, Monday, 5 February 2007 20:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Not to be a bother but there are a number of applications that have not been replied to from from February 1st. Just wondering when to expect a response.

kirk mcgowan, Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kirk McGowan = Banned 180 days.

Feel free to re-apply using this page in 180 days.

Oink Admins (grady), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Best of luck. ;-)

Oink Admins (grady), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 00:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: kevin.dong.liu
b) first name (no surnames):nothingman
c) age:30
d) gender:male
e) geographic location:tianjin,china

nothingman (nothingman), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 09:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) telecustard
b) Jo
c) 22
d) Male
e) UK

1)
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Larrikin Love - The Freedom Spark
The Klaxons - Myths Of The Near Future

2)
Rockism pretty much holds that if you trace back the influences of most modern bands you'll discover the names of the only 10 creative artists to have ever existed, half of which are just different spellings of the name Jimi Hendrix. Rockists are the sorts of people, however, that would Photoshop the CD cover so that Hendrix is 'not quite black'. You could be a Rockist and never listen to a bad song; the 60's alone produced enough awesome music to last you a lifetime. The downside however is that you would miss out on a lot of great music, and would be so ignorant about the music you don't like that you couldn't win an argument against a mute. Rockist's don't own albums produced after the 70's. Rockists don't own haircuts produced after the seventies. Rockists don't own. In conclusion, everyone should know their Floyd, but don't be a cunt about it.

3) http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/156/img1379catpower491c20hx2.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. I think they're hard to compare though, as they are trying to accomplish different things. Sufjan's material is mood music, and with it's folk tendencies it's as much about the lyrics as the instrumentals. Deerhoof is much more immediate as it's upbeat and electronic, but while their odd vocals help bring across the playful nature of the music, there's not much lyrical content. I think Sufjan's songs are likely to be around for longer than Deerhoof's, because they are 'songs' in the traditional sense of the word. They are more likely to become part of your life, for instance I could pick up my guitar or uke (the closest thing I have to a banjo) and play one of his songs. I'd have to dig out my old casio keyboard and get my two year old cousin to say 'poopy' occasionally to get anything close to Deerhoof. I have got into stuff that I regard as similar to Deerhoof before (like the Go! Team), but it's not really my thing. Sufjan isn't one of my favourite artists either but I haven't heard anything from him that I don't like.

5) One.

Jo Potter, Tuesday, 6 February 2007 15:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

FREEZE

nobody move

RIAA (deej..), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 21:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Fake RIAA guy, you are banned.

Oink Admin (Confounded), Tuesday, 6 February 2007 22:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

yoo guys!!! adam schefter is handing out 75 new oink invites to celebrate the launch of his new blog!!!

jhoshea (scoopsnoodle), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 01:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Adam Schefter has been given a 180 day IP ban. And the gas face.

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 04:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://themot.org/gallery/d/61535-1/fightu.jpg

Adam_Schefter, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 05:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) sojka
b) Jeff
c) 18
d) Male
e) US


1) Mat Kearney - Nothing Left To Lose
dustin kensrue - please come home
The Academy Is... - Almost Here

2) What is rockism? Rockism is the idea of using synths in pro tools. This idea is all about the composer or producer of the album. They use this technique in pop music alot, and its also a way that people can express them selves. This rockism is a great help to crappy bands to make there sucky music sound better. Anyway basically this idea improves the cd by adding fake sounds, which makes the music more rockin'. Whenever I record music in my studio, i have to confess that I too use this technique or method, but its the future people! And it has been a standard in the past... I do not not think that rockism will ever fade out of the process for recording.
3) http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:jvlwSO5Y7rb9XM:http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/images/news/images/cat_power.jpg

4) I have to give this one to Sufan, he has been one of my favorite artists ever since i was introduced to him, and he completely blew me away with his christmas 5 ep box set. I mean for his cd about Illinois, he went to the state for 3 months before he wrote the cd!! Thats dedication. And, he just a freakin genius! He mixes and records and produces 99% of his songs! Thats crazy!! I mean I do my best on my mixes, but this guy is just a mastermind. So sorry Deerhoof, but Sufjan has my vote!

5)1

Jeff Sojka, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 16:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) sojka
b) Jeff
c) 18
d) Male
e) US


1) Mat Kearney - Nothing Left To Lose
dustin kensrue - please come home
The Academy Is... - Almost Here

2) What is rockism? Rockism is the idea of using synths in pro tools. This idea is all about the composer or producer of the album. They use this technique in pop music alot, and its also a way that people can express them selves. This rockism is a great help to crappy bands to make there sucky music sound better. Anyway basically this idea improves the cd by adding fake sounds, which makes the music more rockin'. Whenever I record music in my studio, i have to confess that I too use this technique or method, but its the future people! And it has been a standard in the past... I do not not think that rockism will ever fade out of the process for recording.
3)

4) I have to give this one to Sufan, he has been one of my favorite artists ever since i was introduced to him, and he completely blew me away with his christmas 5 ep box set. I mean for his cd about Illinois, he went to the state for 3 months before he wrote the cd!! Thats dedication. And, he just a freakin genius! He mixes and records and produces 99% of his songs! Thats crazy!! I mean I do my best on my mixes, but this guy is just a mastermind. So sorry Deerhoof, but Sufjan has my vote!

5)1

Jeff Sojka, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 16:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) sojka
b) Jeff
c) 18
d) Male
e) US


1) Mat Kearney - Nothing Left To Lose
dustin kensrue - please come home
The Academy Is... - Almost Here

2) What is rockism? Rockism is the idea of using synths in pro tools. This idea is all about the composer or producer of the album. They use this technique in pop music alot, and its also a way that people can express them selves. This rockism is a great help to crappy bands to make there sucky music sound better. Anyway basically this idea improves the cd by adding fake sounds, which makes the music more rockin'. Whenever I record music in my studio, i have to confess that I too use this technique or method, but its the future people! And it has been a standard in the past... I do not not think that rockism will ever fade out of the process for recording.
3) http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/images/news/images/cat_power.jpg

4) I have to give this one to Sufan, he has been one of my favorite artists ever since i was introduced to him, and he completely blew me away with his christmas 5 ep box set. I mean for his cd about Illinois, he went to the state for 3 months before he wrote the cd!! Thats dedication. And, he just a freakin genius! He mixes and records and produces 99% of his songs! Thats crazy!! I mean I do my best on my mixes, but this guy is just a mastermind. So sorry Deerhoof, but Sufjan has my vote!

5)1

Sorry for posting three times, but I had to get the image link right

Jeff Sojka, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 16:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

god you are soooooo banned jeff

Oink Administrator (Pablo A), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 16:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

2) What is rockism? Rockism is the idea of using synths in pro tools. This idea is all about the composer or producer of the album. They use this technique in pop music alot, and its also a way that people can express them selves. This rockism is a great help to crappy bands to make there sucky music sound better. Anyway basically this idea improves the cd by adding fake sounds, which makes the music more rockin'. Whenever I record music in my studio, i have to confess that I too use this technique or method, but its the future people! And it has been a standard in the past... I do not not think that rockism will ever fade out of the process for recording.

I am just beginning to see the light...

Oink Admin (Confounded), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Requested username: Anden1980
First name: Anders
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Geographic location: Denmark


1)100 Huge hits of the 60s and 70s, Kim Larsen Greates hits (Danish Music), Billboard Top 100 2000-2005

2)Rockism/ Rockist - was a term used in the late 80s in Britain - it indicated people who don't listen to experimental music or diverse music, but only like straight ahead rock/metal music hence the term rockist.

someone was rockist if they only listened to hard rock music: AC/DC, Black Crowes, Judas Priest/ Gun/ Tesla/ Guns N Roses/Little Angels/ King Swamp/The Almighty/ Def Leppard etc

Rockism = everyone should like what I like because what I like is OBJECTIVELY great.

3)http://www.gratisupload.dk/show.php?fileId=1336

4)Hard for me to say, because i have never heard about any of them, i read the Surfan Stevenson is famouse i United States, but i have never heard about him.

5)I only require one.


Anders Noergaard, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Anders,

You truly did not follow any of our rules, but your commentary about Surfan Stevenson is remarkably OTM.

Oink Admin (Confounded), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

What rules?

1=
a) requested username
b) first name (no surnames)
c) age
d) gender
e) geographic location

I filed in all the requested.

2) I answared all the quistions, and sorry for not knowing Surfan Stevenson. If you ask people in denmark i bet no one knows him :(

So what did i do wrong? I am a member of two dansih torrent sites, and my rating is about 1,5 on both sites.

Anders Noergaard, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 17:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear Anders,

Please write EIGHT SENTENCES about Rockism, and EIGHT SENTENCES about Sufjan vs. Deerhoof.

Thank you for your kind cooperation.

It is not just about the ratios -- this is an elite community.

Oink Admin (Confounded), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

What did I do wrong?? atleast I know about sufjan, and I answered those 2 questions with 8 sentences also

Jeff Sojka, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Posting three times. You fucked up big, Jeff.

Oink Admin (Confounded), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

540 day IP ban

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 18:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

I answered those 2 questions with 8 sentences also

Yes, you met the *minimum* requirement. That tells us that you will put minimal effort into giving back to the Oink Community. Remember, we're not seeking out the very good in indie -- we're looking for the very best.

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 19:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

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muvkyb cndq, Wednesday, 7 February 2007 21:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

muvkyb cndq banned indefinitely.

Oink Admin (grady), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 21:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin: have you reached a decision on Anders? I like the cut of his jib and would be able to action his application far more speedily than Kirk McGowan's

stet (stet), Wednesday, 7 February 2007 23:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

1.) tennis_dog
2.) Mark
3.)17
4.) Male
5.) Chicago


1.) Not so sure about the question. I have uploaded some albums into a request section of a forum using file hosting services such as rapidshare and megaupload, if that is what you are asking about. Other wise, i downloaded an MC Juice discography recently and I am currently seeding that to about a 5.0 ratio... It's about 400 megs, so its no big deal. Is that the answer you were looking for?

2.) Rockism is the somewhat against modern-age rock, which I believe started around the 70's and 80's. One ideology is that technology tends to ruin the essence of music, and therefore electric guitars and synthesizers, etc. were frowned upon. Rockism states that the artist should be the sole creator of the music and these synthesizers and such detract from the essence of man-made music. Rockism also seems to state that rock is "supreme" genre or the center of music. During the 80's rockism was also seen by many as "anti-pop" music. A connection I can make is to hip hop as well. Rockism believed that "real" music was dying, similarly, many artists claim that "hip hop is dead" meaning that many rappers sold themselves out for money or fame.


3.) http://yamamiya.up.seesaa.net/image/catpower.jpg

4.) I have to give it to Sufjan. I had hear Marzuki live the one time I went to Michigan and couldn't stop listening after that. I feel that he is one of the few talented music artists left as someone had stated before, he produced and recorded most of his songs. I just wish that he did actually go ahead and write an ode to each of the 50 states. That would have been very interesting. About Deerhoof, the first thing I heard about this group was that none of the members had any formal singing training, which I thought was incredible. I still felt that after Halfbird, their music quality sorta went downward, but Sufjan still gets my vote because of what he has achieved alone, as compared to with a group. Sufjan is only going to get bigger but hopefully not too big to the point where he becomes mainstream. Gotta get his box set too sometime.

5.) Just one, please.

mark michael, Thursday, 8 February 2007 01:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

A) boxter88
B)David
C) 18
D)Male
E) Oregon, USA

1) The Doctor's Advocate (The Game), Ch. 1 The Rise (Ya Boy), Eminem Presents the RE-UP
2) Basically, rockism is the basis of how music evolved to what it is today. It started out with people doing it for the fun of it. This was the case for a while, until big bands became 'big bands.' This created a new kind of music with new flow. Everyone is now trying to "get big" with music, when they need to look back to the roots. Yes, this has created new great music. For the most part, people need to 'feel' their music more than want money for it. It's nice to make money from doing something you love, but the money starts to take over. Now, people will always get money and prize for their music, but we still have to remember the one's that don't.

3) http://www.newcenter.com/tastefest/2006/media/photos/MOTORCITY_CASINO_MAIN_STAGE/CAT%20POWER%20&%20THE%20MEMPHIS%20RHYTHM%20BAND.jpg
4) Sufjan is soo legit. One of my favorite songs of all time is Chicago. He just recently came out with a new Christmas album, and it's pretty good. He is known for his lyrically focused and instrumentally rich songs that often relate to faith and family. Stevens has enjoyed wide critical success in the United States. His music is different then most stuff coming out mainstream right now, and I like that a lot. I've been listening to him since he first started back in 99, and I still do.
4) Just one

David Zimmerman (boxter88), Thursday, 8 February 2007 01:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

-- J Ruckus (ruckmanino...) (webmail), January 29th, 2007.

was this dude real or a faker? not many people from charlotte post on ilx :/

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 8 February 2007 05:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

i used to not understand rockism. thanks to this post, i finally figured it out:

What is rockism? Rockism is the idea of using synths in pro tools. This idea is all about the composer or producer of the album. They use this technique in pop music alot, and its also a way that people can express them selves. This rockism is a great help to crappy bands to make there sucky music sound better. Anyway basically this idea improves the cd by adding fake sounds, which makes the music more rockin'. Whenever I record music in my studio, i have to confess that I too use this technique or method, but its the future people!

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 8 February 2007 06:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

ip sez VA, is that close????

pabs (Pablo A), Thursday, 8 February 2007 06:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

wait what's mickey doing here

pabs (Pablo A), Thursday, 8 February 2007 06:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) merqlove
b) Alex
c) 24
d) Male
e) Russia, Moscow

1)
VA_-_Progressive_Goa_Trance_Vol_4-2CD-2007
Andrea_Doria_-_Yaoo-(promo)-CDM-2007
Digitalis_-_The_Ride-Promo-CDS-2007

2)
Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s.[citation needed] The fundamental tenet of rockism is that some forms of popular music, and some musical artists, are more authentic than others. More specifically, authentic popular music fits the rock and roll paradigm; it is made using the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, and fits the structures of a rock and roll song.
Rockism is suspicious of the use of technology, from synthesizers to Pro Tools-style computer-based production systems. Rockism places value on the idea of the composer and performer as auteur; authentic music is composed as a sincere form of self-expression, and usually performed by those who composed it.

3)
http://trouble.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/cat%20power%20by%20shawn%20mortenson.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens my favorite, him have more good quality music at all songs. but i like other style.

5) 2 invites needed.
TNX

Merkulov Alexander, Thursday, 8 February 2007 09:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

chillin

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 8 February 2007 15:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

i came looking for solved cbse papers

critique de la vie quotidienne (modestmickey), Thursday, 8 February 2007 15:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) enviouz
b) jeremy
c) 25
d) male
e) iowa,usa

1) the doors(very best of the doors), metallica (ride the lightning), korn (see you on the other side)

2)rockism means idolizing the authentic old legend (or underground hero) while mocking the latest pop star.lionizing punk while barely tolerating disco.loving the live show and hating the music video. extolling the growling performer while hating the lip-syncher.its supicous of the use of technicological electronicly composed music be it using protools,reason,fl studio ya know what ever the case may be. its about the authenication of the music.its about staying true to the genre's musical roots. in my opinion thats what rockism is.

3)http://stefanogiovannini.com/portfolios/catpowerpics/image-html/04-chan.html

4)sufjan stevens is AMAZING! he plays something like twenty-six instruments. writes intelligent lyrics. and has a beautiful passionate somewhat bitter-sweet voice. sufjan stevens is the sort of musician you have to admit is good even if you don't like his music. I like his music immensely. his music is for when you have time to sit and listen i mean really sit there listen deeply. its very musically complex and i think thats one of the things i like so much about it. i always notice something extra each time i listen to one of his songs that i didnt notice before.

5) just one invite please

jeremy mills (enviouz), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

ok kelefa

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 8 February 2007 22:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Invite | Oink Invite | Oink Invite | Oink Invite | Oink Invite

pabs (Pablo A), Friday, 9 February 2007 06:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)dannyboy500
b)Dan
c)42
d)Male
e)Dublin Ireland

- Kraftwerk - Minimum, Maximum (Live), Tool - 10,000 Days, Camper Van Beethoven - Key Lime Pie (All FLAC lossess
- Rockism is to music what George Bush is to America
- Cat Power Rulez! http://i13.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/32/c3/3c_1_b.JPG
- Sufjan Stevens without a doubt. Listening to Illinoise is like that first sip of coffee in the morning. Splendid!
- 1 invite for me as my invisible friend can share

Daniel Bourne, Friday, 9 February 2007 14:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Daniel Bourne banned for 180 days for not following directions

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Friday, 9 February 2007 16:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)FritztheCat
b)Drew
c)32
d)Very male
e)Texus

1)Swan Lake-Beast Moans, TV on the Radio-Desperate Youth, Califone-Roots and Crowns.

2)Rockism is a blood-covered prom-date with fire in its heart. Rockism won't quit until it has vacuumed and sponged every ounce of raw, unadulterated talent left in the world and pissed it back out as mindless, shrink-wrapped tripe. Rockism answers to no one and makes no apologies. Take Rockism out for a nice chicken dinner, tell Rockism that it looks great in those pleather chaps, write Rockism a poem, Rockism will never call you back. Rockism will never let you win at your favorite boardgame. Make no mistake about it, Rockism is a formidable opponent. Find the chink in Rockism's armor. Flip Rockism over to expose Rockism's soft underbelly. Rockism-this is gonna hurt you more than it's gonna hurt me.

3)Kitty Power

4)Sufjan is a down pillow. Deerhoof is lumpy. On those long country drives you need Sufjan behind the wheel. Deerhoof has to piss every 15 miles. Sufjan's eloquent musings embrace like an old sweater on a brisk morning. Deerhoof needs more cowbell. Sufjan has something in his eye. It's Deerhoof.

5)One, two if you can spare.

Drew Nasty, Saturday, 10 February 2007 02:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Drew Nasty banned 30 days for being too male.

Drew Nasty banned 30 days for being too nasty.

Please re-apply in 60 days.

oinkadmin (grady), Saturday, 10 February 2007 02:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Username1
b) Renan
c) 17
d) Male
e) Brasil


1) Simple Plan ; Legião Urbana ( brazilian awesome band ;D ) ; My Chemical Romance

2) Rockism is suspicious of the use of technology, from synthesizers to Pro Tools-style computer-based production systems. Rockism places value on the idea of the composer and performer as auteur; authentic music is composed as a sincere form of self-expression, and usually performed by those who composed it. This is as opposed to the notion of manufactured "pop" music, created in assembly line fashion by teams of hired record producers and technicians and performed by pop stars who have little input into the creative process, designed to appeal to a mass market and make profits rather than express authentic sentiments.

Rockism is a primitivist ideology; a subtext of rockism is that, at one time in history, they "got music right", and that all subsequent innovations have compromised this purity. (This golden age is often placed sometime during the 1960s or 1970s.) Critics of rockism assert that this vaunted "golden age" of pure, authentic music is a myth, and that popular music never was entirely free of the interference of commercialism, marketing and commodification
or : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockism
3) http://themodernage.magicrpm.com/images/mn/1129721872.jpg & http://www.prosoundweb.com/fun/Photofun/36_cat_balls.jpg (j/k) ;D

4) First I'd like to say that I barely know this bands ... but from what I heard i like Sufjan Stevens more.. His voice its really calm and nice .. Its a very peaceful kind of music and it pleasans me.
5) Only one for me ;D

Renan Sandoval, Saturday, 10 February 2007 18:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Rean Sandoval = Approved for citing sources in his Rockism essay.

OinkAdmin (grady), Saturday, 10 February 2007 19:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm taking a chance here, I know, but what about my rejection/approval message??

mark michael, Saturday, 10 February 2007 23:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Indeed you are taking chances asking.

Tennis_dog had been approved and is currently an active member. I see you have 7.2GB uploaded and 884MB downloaded. Superb ratio management -- Mark, I just credited you three invites to forward to friends as you see fit (choose wisely).

Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Sunday, 11 February 2007 01:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

mark, can i have one?

jambalaya backgammon (grady), Sunday, 11 February 2007 02:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

1.) This is not real so don't waste your time
2.) Once again, this is not real so don't waste your breath
3.) In case you are slow, this is fake
4.) Pretty funny though all you muppets begging for invites
5.) Who cares about Sufjan or Deerhoof?

Oink The Overrated Sow, Sunday, 11 February 2007 02:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Can I ask about my approval message?

David Zimmerman (boxter88), Sunday, 11 February 2007 07:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

what about it?

pabs (Pablo A), Sunday, 11 February 2007 07:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...
a) requested username: KAKAshanghai
b) first name (no surnames): KAKA
c) age: 22
d) gender: Male
e) geographic location: Shanghai China

1) Martin Lissmyr - I Will Never Collaborate(Original Mix)
Rhythm & Sound - Free For All feat. Paul St. Hilaire(Soundstream Remix)
Samantha James - Rise(Eric Kupper Remix)
All New Sigle Track Bought From Beatport.com,320Kbps

2) I'm So Sorry, I never heard rockism, I'm a electronic music DJ in China and i like progressive House,Deep House,Minimal,Drum n' bass,rockism=Rock n' Roll?I Don't know who is popular in 70' or 80',but now i konw some music artists play Rock Music Like Linkin Park,or Coldplay?

3) http://technoarena.net/2_sasha_2.jpg

4) I'm not these two artists Fans,So I can't Say anything,I need respect their music, Music is Good.

5) Just One Please. Thank you so much,I Love Your Website,It's Very Clean and fast!

If I Can't Get This Invite,Tell Me Please,I Will Download More Music and Listen Them,to answer your question,I Really Hope I Can Get One :)

KAKA H, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 16:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Rhythm & Sound - Free For All feat. Paul St. Hilaire(Soundstream Remix)

YSI ??KAKA?

am0n, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 03:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

KAKA - YSI??????????????????????????????¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿?¿¿?¿??¿¿¿??

am0n, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

All New Sigle Track Bought From Beatport.com,320Kbps !!!!!¡¡¡¡¡¡¡!!!!!!!!¡¡¡¡¡¡¡!!!!!!!!!

Confounded, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 20:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) uno1212
b) steve
c) 23
d) male
e) massachusetts, united states


1) Feist - The Reminder, Dntel - Dumb Luck, Bright Eyes - Four Winds EP

2) For various people, it's a term of praise for avoiding artifice or a description of unadventurous musical tastes or a word for just liking rock a whole lot. But it's also a potentially useful concept for thinking about the way people write about popular music, and the way people experience it. The trick is to figure out exactly what it means.Robert Christgau wrote in 1990 about "the 'rockism' debate that raged through the U.K. music press in the early '80s": Rockism, at that point, meant putting stock in rock's "capacity to change lives or express truth"—as opposed to the kinds of pop that (a rockist would say) have more of a capacity to express pretty lies. Most of all, rockism is programmed into the way people write about music. [seattleweekly]

3) http://grota.tipos.com.br/media/7/20060605-cat%20power%20blog3.jpg

4) I prefer Sufjan to Deerhoof for personal reasons; the majority of Sufjan's songs are more accessible than Deerhoof's, while Deerhoof's music focuses unconventional structures, rhythms, and lyrics. Sufjan was great live at the Orpheum here in Boston, few musicians sound better live than they do on recordings.

5) 1; 2 if you can spare an extra. Thanks.

uno1212, Thursday, 8 March 2007 06:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) nictric
b) nic
c) 34
d)male
e) sydney


1) david bowie - the rise and fall of ziggy stardust, housexy 2006, cream anthems 2007

2) What is rockism? (Rockism is popular music criticism, orig 1970/80s. According to wiki, The main element of rockism is that some forms of popular music, and some musical artists, are more authentic than others. Authentic popular music fits the rock and roll paradigm, so basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, fits the structures of a rock and roll song. it seems that it is fairly strict in it's beleif as it appears to shy from technology)

3) http://www.notontheguestlist.com/blog/images/notgl_cp_color.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (I'd have to say Sufjan Stevens as he's easy on the eye and he's one talented boy. I only heard him recently, but am waiting till i'm next paid to purchase the album, i think. it's kind of electronic but folky and he's fresh as the fairy floss at an easter fair, such as year of the dog reminds me a bit of air, but slightly more insular. hearing sister Winter got me....

5) How many invites do you require? just one

nictric, Thursday, 8 March 2007 13:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) napsc47w
b) Cos
c) early 30s
d) M
e) United States


1) I'm amazed that people answer this one. I do not share copyrighted material online, your honour.

2) Not as lame a question as it may at first seem. The term's been around for decades, but a single meaning has only been settled upon the past few years. Broadly speaking, it's used (often derisively these days) to denote an attitude which views certain stylistic conventions of rock (live percussion, electric guitars, performing original material) as the norm in popular music. Introduction of outside, particularly opposing, elements is seen as a deviation from a more authentic and often correct form of music.

What I find interesting about this is that the word had a number of largely unrelated meanings for years before. The one I used it as referred not to a critical attitude but rather an artistic one. To wit: rockism as an awareness on the part of the performer of aspects of rock music usually only examined by critics. In other words, an understanding of the subtextual meanings, inherited signs and other cultural studies-type baggage that invariably accompanies popular art, as well as its inherent contradictions and (let's face it; they sure do) absurdities. This manifested itself most explicitly in English post-punk bands of the late 70s/early 80s (q.v. Simon Reynolds' terrific book on the era), e.g., Wire, PiL, Gang of Four, who began moving in the direction of a sort of meta-rock in which their music functioned as its own subject. Of course, this awareness didn't suddenly appear after a Sex Pistols gig; one can trace it all the way back to Zappa and beyond.

3) http://www.richardavedon.com/editorial2004/newyorker/catpower.php

I can't believe no one else posted this one (or maybe someone did and I just didn't see it). For Pete's sake, people, you can see her bush. All sniveling little indie boys wanna bang Chan Marshall. Most of the girls too.

4) I don't particularly care for either to be honest, but if forced to choose I'll go with Deerhoof. While I find their short attention span-derived quirkiness somewhat annoying, I can at least appreciate the omnivorousness of their vision from a safe distance. Sufjan, on the other hand, sounds to me like a bunch of wussy librarian-rock twaddle. At least Brian Wilson did a lot of drugs.

Sentence five. Sentence six. Sentence seven. Sentence eight.

5) I require none; I request one.

nroJD, Friday, 9 March 2007 17:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

nroJD: Your status is PENDING. Your response to number three is correct, however, we can not process your reqest fully until you answer iten One honestly.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

nictric and uno1212 approved for citing sources in thier Rockism Essays.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 9 March 2007 23:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)tobb3
b)Andreas
c)19
d)male
e)weden

1.
Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Cage - Hell's Winter
Madlib - Shades of Blue

2.
“Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s. The fundamental tenet of rockism is that some forms of popular music, and some musical artists, are more authentic than others. More specifically, authentic popular music fits the rock and roll paradigm; it is made using the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, and fits the structures of a rock and roll song.

Rockism is suspicious of the use of technology, from synthesizers to Pro Tools-style computer-based production systems. Rockism places value on the idea of the composer and performer as auteur; authentic music is composed as a sincere form of self-expression, and usually performed by those who composed it. This is as opposed to the notion of manufactured "pop" music, created in assembly line fashion by teams of hired record producers and technicians and performed by pop stars who have little input into the creative process, designed to appeal to a mass market and make profits rather than express authentic sentiments.
Rockism is a primitivist ideology; a subtext of rockism is that, at one time in history, they "got music right", and that all subsequent innovations have compromised this purity. (This golden age is often placed sometime during the 1960s or 1970s.) Critics of rockism assert that this vaunted "golden age" of pure, authentic music is a myth, and that popular music never was entirely free of the interference of commercialism, marketing and commodification.”

3.
http://www.alwaysontherun.net/catpower4.jpg

4.
Well I would go for Deerhoof and not Sufjan stevens. Mainly it’s because I really like Deerhoof’s music more, why? Well their experimental ways of making music has inspired myself I my on so called music career. Their somewhat chaotic way of making music is very experimental and interesting. And the fact that they have no formal musical training makes them even better, and you that all that they are doing is coming from within and not doing because some producers or managers tell them to. I find a lot of people think their music is too hard to listen to but that’s exactly what I like with them, weird rhythms and rimes, having to go so deep into their music to get it is like meditation for me.

5. Well one single invite would be just perfect.

tobb3, Saturday, 10 March 2007 01:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

e)Sweden

(sorry my faulty keyboard)

tobb3, Saturday, 10 March 2007 01:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) nalth
b) Karl
c) 24
d) Male
e) Finland

1)
Kryptic Minds and Leon Switch – Lost All Faith EP Part 1
Shogun Audio – Alix Perez feat MC Fats
Lemongrass – Voyage Au Centre De La Terre

2)
The term was first used by the British music press in the late 70s or early 80s. Rockism is basically an opinionated position towards any form of music that doesn’t obey the rules and values of rock music. Many fans of classic rock music have the tendency to view music that is created by extensive use of technology (e.g., synthesizers and computers) of lower value. According to the followers of rockism, music should be made in a way that puts the artist and his creativity as the number one priority. However, there are those who criticize rockism by implying that rockism was never truly free from commercialism themselves. An example of a typical genre of music that does not fill these requirements by any standards is today’s manufactured “pop” music (whose sole purpose is to generate money). So in a way we can see that the rockism debate was a result of overproduction in the music industry (and the industrialization of it). “Some artists are more 'real' than others.” is one typical statement for a “rockist” [1].

Sources:
[1] “Design Rockism” by Nick Currie

3)
http://newsday.typepad.com/impulsemovies/images/cat200.jpg

4) To be honest I must say that I’m not familiar with these two artists. However, doing a bit of searching and checking the artists out on last.fm, I find that they both have interesting sounds. And after a few songs have found my favorite; Deerhoof! It might be because I have a small preference towards the experimental spirit and female vocalists. Nevertheless, I can see myself listening to Sufjan Stevens too; however, today is not one of those days. To me Deerhoof appeals by creating an interesting, unique mix of music. I love music that is experimental and tries new things. So the bottom line is, I must remember to take a closer look at this band later on.

5) One, please.

nalth, Sunday, 11 March 2007 20:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

Karl, Andreas:

Could you please re-submit your applications in your mother tounges? You stand a good chance of approval if you can.

Kiitos/ Tack.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 12 March 2007 05:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) nalth
b) Karl
c) 24
d) Man
e) Finland

1)
Kryptic Minds and Leon Switch – Lost All Faith EP Part 1
Shogun Audio – Alix Perez feat MC Fats
Lemongrass – Voyage Au Centre De La Terre

2)
Termen användes för första gången av den Brittiska musik pressen i slutet av 70-talet eller i början av 80-talet . Rockism är i princip ett egensinnigt ställningstagande gentemot musik som inte följer de regler och värderingar som rockmusiken följer. Många entusiaster av klassisk rockmusik tenderar att tycka att musik som är skapad med hjälp av omfattande användning av teknologi (t.ex. synthesizers och datorer) som mindre värd. Enligt rockism anhängare borde musiken skapas så att den ställer artisten och hans/hennes kreativitet som prioritet nummer ett. Dock finns det kritiker som anser att rockismen aldrig har varit riktigt fri från kommersialism. Ett typiskt exempel på en genre av musik som inte på något sätt fyller dessa krav är dagens fabricerade ”pop” musik (vars enda uppgift är att tjäna pengar). Så på sätt och vis kan vi se rockism debatten som ett resultat av en överproduktion i musikbranschen (och industrialiseringen av den). ”Vissa artister är mer ’riktiga’ än andra.” är ett typiskt uttalande för en ”rockist” [1].

Källor:
[1] “Design Rockism” av Nick Currie

3)
http://newsday.typepad.com/impulsemovies/images/cat200.jpg

4)
Om jag är ärlig måste jag erkänna att jag inte är bekant med någon av dessa två artister. Men efter att ha sökt och kollat in artisterna på last.fm, tycker jag att båda har ett intressant sound. Och efter att ha lyssnat på några låtar har jag hittat min favorit; Deerhoof! Det kan vara därför att jag har en viss förkärlek till den experimentella andan och kvinnliga vokalister. Trots det kan jag också tänka mig att lyssna på Sufjan Stevens, men idag är inte en av de dagarna. Deerhoof tilltalar mig genom att skapa en intressant, unik mix av musik. Jag älskar som är experimentell och försöker sig på nya saker. Så slutsatsen är, jag måste komma ihåg att ta en närmare titt på det här bandet vid något senare tillfälle.

5)
Ett, tack.


(Ruotsi on äidinkieleni, mutta osaan myös sujuvasti suomea.)

nalth, Monday, 12 March 2007 07:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sources:
[1] “Design Rockism” by Nick Currie


!!!!!

Curt1s Stephens, Monday, 12 March 2007 15:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Karl:

Please post a picture of Nick Currie.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 12 March 2007 18:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://imomus.com/momopromothree.jpg

nalth, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

when do you know if yuor application will be approved or not?

best regards tobb3

tobb3, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

when do you know if your application is approved or not?

best regards tobb3

tobb3, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

User nalth is approved and is currently an active member with full privileges.

Your login information will arrive via webmail in the following days.

Welcome!

Oink Administrator, Monday, 12 March 2007 19:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Forget it. There are posts in this very thread alluding to the visibility of IP addresses of posters for those tech-savvy enough to find them. I'll be vague and say that I have more live recordings than studio albums in my collection, so if that's not really what's in demand on Oink, fine. If you want artist names, it's gotta be on a secure server.

By the way, by "live recordings" I do not mean "Dead shows". Or phuckin' Fish.

nroJD, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) MrGrape16
b) Jason
c) 18
d) Male
e) San Luis Obispo, CA


1) 2Pac - Resurrection, Andre Nickatina - Tears of a Clown, State Radio - Us Against the Crown
2) Rockism is the idea of popular music criticism. It is based on the idea that, at one time, music was perfect. I believe this time to be in the late 60s to late 70s. Today's music is mostly compromised by a blend of producers, writers, composers, etc. Some say the most important instrument in music today is the computer (synthesized music). I believe mostly in Rockism, as I do believe a true musician is on that can express their feelings and emotions into a symphony. The epitome of a golden age band (in my opinion) would be the Beatles, as their lyrics were as amazing as their instrumentals. I do know many talented "musicians" that do not play an instrument at all, but rather string out a series of beats onto a computer screen, and this goes against the idea of Rockism. Rockism is the prime example of how music should be.

3) Cat Power

4) I cannot answer this question honestly, as I have not listened to enough music by each of the artists. I'm sorry.

5) One

MrGraper16, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 00:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

nroJD: A quick scan of your Hard Drive confirms that your digital music collection is not up to our standards.

Please re-apply next year.

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 02:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have 3 extra invites. All I require is a "please".

And I don't even require that, really.

Z S, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 04:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

can I get one?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 04:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Could I get an invite? Email address is jcarian@mac.com

Thank you!

MrGraper16, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) m0ik
b)Mike
c) 19
d) male
e) Santa Barbara, CA

1) Clark - Body Riddle
SebastiAn - Ross Ross Ross EP
Battles - Mirrored

2) I don't know what "Rockism" is, and I don't really care to copy the definition from wikipedia. Instead i will give you this.
http://www.naboamusic.com/downloads/Image/NABOA%20album%20pic2.jpg

3) http://www.rockobrobje.com/catp_p1.jpg

4) Deerhoof. Again, I'll spare you the trouble of hearing me spew a bunch of trite bullshit about math rock. To be honest I just don't like Sufjan's sugary ass voice and melodies. That's not to say he isn't equally as creative and experimental as Deerhoof. I just like their abrasiveness mixed with the cute japanese vox better.

5) 1 please please please.

m0ik, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 08:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

"secure server"

jergincito, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 09:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey ZS

would a pretty please suffice?

jinja, Tuesday, 13 March 2007 13:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've been approved (thank you) but am unsure what to do next?

nictric, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 05:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

a jinja
b joe
c 28
d m
e)perth australia

1) Snowman-snowman, the juan maclean - human, ravi shanker live at monteroy,

2) As an evaluation of previous responses and from wikipedia as the main citation source I can conclude that Rockism appears to be the foundation structure of rock music, the core instruments of guitars bass and drums and not straying from this. There isn't a specific aural/choral structure that can explicitly define rockism though naturaly the verse chorus verse solo climax chrous structure would have to be the most common. Rockism is a style of music that can be defined by the stripping down to these base instruments with a minimum of external interference, it's possible to believe that the primal tribalism of the early grateful dead in the merry prankster era would be where this style would be rooted.

3) http://www.richardavedon.com/editorial2004/newyorker/catpower.php

4) Hell yeah i like Sufijan Stevens though as my love of music is rooted in the Pavement style, I have to say Deerhoof. I want music that surprises me constantly, as much as i do like a bit of harmony, the right amount of noise goes soooo much further when handled correctly. Stevens appears to have an entire orchestra at his beck and call which can be complex to arrange for though there's nothing quite like that unexpected climatic burst of ... well... noise. Made me think and aim higher as a musician.

5) just the one thank you.

jinja, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 09:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have been approved for Oink -- THANKS SO MUCH GUYS!! I can't believe how much is available... crazy!!

Confounded, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

fat-latvian, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username

fat-latvian

b) first name (no surnames)

Dave

c) age

26

d) gender

Male

e) geographic location

Silver Spring, MD

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Portastatic: "Be Still Please"
Frank Black: "Teenager of the Year"
Emiliana Torrini: "The Fisherman's Woman"

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Overall, "rockism" is a term used to describe all that is authentic or genuine about rock music. It champions artists who spend years touring small rock clubs and make their music with sincere devotion to self-expression. Also important is a lack or commercial influence or a desire to make money.

Critics of rockism will argue that it is full of contradictions. For example, rockism could mean loving The Strokes for their scruffy look, hating them for being "image-conscious poseurs", or not being interested in them all together because music is no longer as good as it used to be.

However, proponents of rockism are not without reason to support such a mantra. While Ashlee Simpson was marketed as a rock act, she was caught lip-synching on Saturday Night Live. Further, more and more artists are using digital tone correction to ensure that recorded vocals are "perfect" when recorded for an album. The greatest visual artists in our history never used stencils for their works, and the greatest sound artists shouldn't have to either.

Sources: New York Times ("The Rap Against Rockism" by KELEFA SANNEH), Wikipedia ("Rockism"), Slate.com ("The Perils of Poptimism" by Jody Rosen.


3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.fcots.com/pub/Cat_Power.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

To be honest, I had to download the new Deerhoof album to write intelligently on this one, and would have to say Deerhoof is better based on variety of material and fun-factor.

I have tried many times to get into Sufjan Stevens' "Come on feel the illinoise!" album, and found every time that: 1. there was no one song that I _really_ liked, and 2. All the songs sorted of blended into one another. While listening to the Deerhoof album, I found that the songs flow together nicely (e.g. they're not trying to do a hip-hop song followed by a metal song) yet each song still has its own personality.

Further, I find that Deerhoof is a lot more fun to listen to. While Sufjan Stevens might be nice playing in the background of a local coffeeshop, I would actually choose to listen to Deerhoof while in my car, at work, etc.

5) How many invites do you require?

Just one, thanks!

fat-latvian, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have been approved for Oink -- THANKS SO MUCH GUYS!! I can't believe how much is available... crazy!!

You sure are welcome, Confounded.

I see you have already begun to take advantage of our wonderful music sharing service by dowloading the Bright Eyes Box Set. Be sure to check out many of his live recording that we have available.

Cheers.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 18:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

thx for nothing..maybe I'll have to look somewhere else. thx anyway:)

regards tobb3

tobb3, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 19:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Andreas, please re-post your application is Swedish.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username &#8211; FL33GL3
b) first name (no surnames) - Noj
c) age - 32
d) gender - Male
e) geographic location &#8211; Grim Oop North - UK


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week &#8230;Capt Beefheart - Cincinnati, 13 feb 72 / The Pop Group &#8211; We Are Time / / Air &#8211; Live Collection II - ........ I go fer lossless where possible ( FLAC) &#8230;.

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism was/is a phrase that was used extensively by NME journalists in the mid to late eighties . Always ready to jump on a bandwagon &#8230;or saddle up the horses to make their own. It was a somewhat silly / shallow attempt to move away from the banality of the decade. Perhaps also a longing to return to the no frills edginess of the late 70&#8217;s.
Who knows &#8230;plenty of t*ss*rs like R. E*ms &#8230; P. M*rley &#8230;. sundry others &#8230;
Leapt to the barricades .....to denounce almost anything that was rock-ist.
Basically , anything that reeked of staid-ness and safety. Though there didn&#8217;t seem to be much authenticity behind this crusade. Most of these lot went on to do columns for the
Broadsheets and MOR papers &#8230;weighing up their own chances &#8230;bottling it &#8230;and
Setting themselves up fer a nice little earner courtesy of Digger M*rd*ch et al .
Worst of the bunch are the smug Gr*uniad writers &#8230;&#8230;talking trash fer the chattering class. GO FIGURE.


3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power :

http://www.sentireascoltare.com/CriticaMusicale/Monografie/catpower/cat-power-font3.jpg

Who wouldn&#8217;t want to share a cuppa with Cat ??

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Couldn&#8217;t give a F*ck / am un-familiar with the artistes work . Tho&#8217; Deerhoof is a great name &#8230;so I&#8217;ll Say DEERHOOF.

5) How many invites do you require? TWO . Tho&#8217; I&#8217;d be happy with ONE. And now that my B/band connection is sorted &#8230;.i&#8217;ll contribute healthily &#8211; Bit like the NI contributions.

FL33GL3, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username &#8211; FL33GL3
b) first name (no surnames) - Noj
c) age - 32
d) gender - Male
e) geographic location &#8211; North of England, UK


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week &#8230;Capt Beefheart - Cincinnati, 13 feb 72 / The Pop Group &#8211; We Are Time / / Air &#8211; Live Collection II - I go fer lossless where possible ( FLAC) &#8230;.

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism was/is a phrase that was used extensively by NME journalists in the mid to late eighties . Always ready to jump on a bandwagon &#8230;or saddle up the horses to make their own. It was a somewhat silly / shallow attempt to move away from the banality of the decade. Perhaps also a longing to return to the no frills edginess of the late 70&#8217;s....
Who knows ?? ..Plenty of t*ss*rs like R. E*ms &#8230; P. M*rley &#8230;. sundry others &#8230;
Leapt to the barricades .....to denounce almost anything that was rock-ist.
Basically , anything that reeked of staid-ness and safety. Though there didn&#8217;t seem to be much authenticity to the crusade itself . Most of these lot went on to do columns for the newspapers.....
Broadsheet and MOR respectability &#8230;weighing up their own chances &#8230;bottling it &#8230;and
Setting themselves up fer a nice little earner courtesy of Digger M*rd*ch et al .
Worst of the bunch are the smug Gu*ardi*n writers &#8230;&#8230;talking trash fer the chattering class. GO FIGURE.


3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power :

http://www.sentireascoltare.com/CriticaMusicale/Monografie/catpower/cat-power-font3.jpg

Who wouldn&#8217;t want to share a cuppa with Cat ??

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Couldn&#8217;t give a F*ck / am un-familiar with the artists work . Tho&#8217; Deerhoof is a great name e&#8230;so I&#8217;ll Say DEERHOOF.

5) How many invites do you require? TWO . Tho&#8217; I&#8217;d be happy with ONE. And now that my B/band connection is sorted &#8230;.i&#8217;ll contribute healthily &#8211; Bit like the NI contributions.

FL33GL3, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 20:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Errrrrrrrrrrrrr. .....I Fuxored up ................ thought you said ROCKIST .......tho ' my little thinkpiece is still a valid ...and solid body of work ....constructed with rigour , verve ...due process ....etc.
Fuckit ....i'm off fer a drink.. Thankyou and goodnight.

FL33GL3, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 21:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)tobb3
b)Andreas
c)19
d)Man
e)Sverige

1.Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein
Cage - Hell's Winter
Madlib - Shades of Blue

2. Ordet Rockism började användas i brittisk media under slutet av 1970- eller i början av 1980-talet. Vad ordet egentligen menas med är att viss typ av popmusik och vissa musikartister är mer riktig än andra. Den här så kallade mer "riktiga" popmusiken följer rock n' rollen grunder genom att använda gitarrer, bas och trummor.

Inom Rockismen finns det ett visst agg mot att använda datoriserade instrument som syntar eller hela music system uppbyggda av datorer med mjukvara för att skapa "musik". Rockismen lägger en sin tonvikt på musikern och dennes skapande av musiken. Och där producenten av musiken är den som också den som framför musiken. Detta till skilllnad från mycket av dagens massproducerade popmusik, där man hyr in en producent som enligt dagens mode gör "musik" som lägger större tonvikt i hur bra försälningssiffror albumet kommer få istället för att skapa någont genuint. Detta framförs sedan av popstjärnor som har liten påverkan i själva processen av skapandet.

Rockismen is sig är en primitiv ideologi som menar på att en gång i tiden kunde man skapa musik på riktigt och alla efterkommande har bara utnyttjat deras idéer. Denna guldera placeras oftast under 60- och 70-talet. Kritiker till Rockismen menar dock att guldåldern bara är en myt och att popmusik aldrig har varit rikigt fri från kommersialismen.

3. http://www.alwaysontherun.net/catpower4.jpg

4. Om jag skulle välja så skulle det bli Deerhof framför Sufjan Stevens. Främst på grund av att jag helt enkelt gillar Deerhofs musik mer, varför? Jo deras experimentella sätt att göra musik på har även inspirerat mig själv och mitt skapande av musik. Deras lite kaotiska musik musik är väldigt intressant att lyssna på och det faktum att ingen av dem har någon musikalisk utbildning gör dem nästan bättre. Och man vet att vad de gör kommer inifrån och inte från någon producent som står och flåsar dem i nacken. Många tror jag har svårt för deras musik eftersom den är ganska avancerad men det är just därför jag gillar dem.

5. En inbjudan:)

(tack för en andra chans!)

tobb3, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 22:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) yetimike
b) Miguel
c) 38
d) Male
e) Pacific Northwest, U.S.

1) ‘Amazing Grace,’ Mississippie Fred McDowell
‘Torch of the Mystics,’ Sun City Girls
‘Cluster & Eno,’ Cluster with Brian Eno.
2) Rockism is whatever Kelefa Sanneh says it is. Rockism is not a silly subject; it is very serious. Rockism is whichever Jessica Hopper says it is. Rockism is not necessarily the opposite of Discoism. Rockism is whenever Ann Powers says it is. When Rockism wins, all of us lose. Rockism is wherever Simon Reynolds says it is. Rockism is as rockism does.
3) http://www.neatorama.com/images/2006-02/cat-piano.jpg
4) Sufjan is talented, for sure. But the dude works so hard to appear as if he just stepped out of a Wes Anderson flick it’s very tough to take him seriously. I kind of like that he’s a sort-of-Christian “rocker” who wrote a song about John Wayne Gacy that invites the listener to think of him as a human being. But fuck Gacy -- and fuck clowns! Deerhoof music bothers me in large doses but in small ones, it can be pretty amazing. I like that the group works within a framework (spazzy off-kilter math-punk) that seemed all but exhausted but isn’t the way they do it, somehow. And it’s not even so much ‘cause of their well-worn IPU cutey-pieness. I’ve yet to really “figure them out,” and hope I never do.
5) One or two, no more.

Mike McGooney-gal, Thursday, 15 March 2007 01:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

Mike, I'll approve you and give you four extra invites if you'll reconsider my Devendra Banhart 33 1/3 pitch.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 15 March 2007 01:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

Shit is freak folk yo.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 15 March 2007 01:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

sure, only -- i don't work at 33 1/3 -- i only wrote one of the books. sorry!

(and after it took me way longer than i said it would to do it i'd not say my recommendation on anything holds much water.)

Mike McGooney-gal, Thursday, 15 March 2007 02:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) sjfecher
b)Susan
c)25
d)Female
e)Los Angeles, CA, USA

1.
a)Gulag Orkestar - Beirut
b)Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm Not - Arctic Monkeys
c)The Drift - Scott Walker

2. ROCKISM - an ideology, a way of life, a religion perhaps...RockNRoll RockN? It rockin...
3.
http://stefanogiovannini.com/portfolios/catpowerpics/image-html/20-chan.html

4. In my opinion...if I could only pick one to ever listen to I would go with Sufjan Stevens - its just easier to listen to, if that makes sense...I think Deerhoof put out a braver album - I'm still getting used to their sound, and have never listened to it in one sitting - then again I don't think that I have ever listened to Sufjan Stevens' in one sitting either - I guess I'd like to see what they do next before saying one is better than the other - but I'm gonna stick with Stephen...
...my request is for one invite ??

sjfecher, Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: Jungu217
b) first name (no surnames): Johnathon
c) age: 26
d) gender: Male
e) geographic location: Florida, USA


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week: Not sure how i know if it's 192 or not but i have downloaded (Renegades, Rage against the machine). (Californiacation, Red hot chili peppers). and (From Chaos, 311).

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum): I really have never heard of this word so, for all good answers goto Wikipedia for results and they said that Rockism is Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power: http://funnyjunk.com/funny_pictures/1197/Cat+Commander/

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum) : My opinion really is that I have never heard of any of those but from the responses other people gave I would say Sufjan Stevens. First because they said he was easy to listen to and I like some of that music. I know this isn't eight sentences but please I need to get in

5) How many invites do you require?: Just one.

Jungu, Thursday, 15 March 2007 13:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

nictric = please re-post your application, our Australian branch lost it in an office move.
jinja = APPROVED (welcome).
fat-latvian = APPROVAL PENDING; however, you must select a less offensive user name
Noj = DENIED
tobb3 = your requested user name is in use, please select a different user name
yetimike = PENDING
sjfecher = DENIED
Jungu217 = APPROVAL PENDING, please re-write your rockism essay

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) unfected
b) adam
c) 39
d) male
e) seattle, wa, usa


1) How to get pfueled: I haven't participated in a file-sharing program since the collapse of free Napster. That said, when I did participate, I'm sure I was very popular "with the ladies". Presently, you can have the Chrome Box, Tanworth In Arden and bunch of Burzum records. You know, if you want them.

2) Rockism is thought to be the mindset held by rockists. And rockists are thought to be old people who see music as something created by spontaneous generation in a drop of Jimi's leg sweat. (There's already too much thinking going on in this chain, right? I mean, it can be a problem.) Anyway, rockism must be opposed primarily because of racism, which is very bad. No, I mean it. All this is kinda funny because anxiety about rockism seems so rockist. Like how you have to be Christian in the first place to care much about opposing the church. So you think your schooling's phony? Well, it's hard not too agree...

3) Cat Power

4) I like Deerhoof a whole hell of a lot more than Mr. Stevens. Not that I don't like Illinoise or whatever. I do. But it seems like an anomaly in the Mr. Stevens catalog. All the other Mr. Stevenses are impossibly boring. And while Deerhoof do get to sound a bit samey after a while, they kick Mr. Stevens' flabby white ass around the room with the proverbial quickness. Plus, what could possibly possess you to go see Mr. Stevens live? = the horror. Whereas Deerhoof live are much better than on record (see rockism).

5) Just the one.

Pye Poudre, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://photos12.flickr.com/18794088_057f59eb5e.jpg?v=0

Yes.

Pye Poudre, Thursday, 15 March 2007 19:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Beales you are sooooo perma-banned.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

I suppose that was a given going in. Still, hope springs eternal...

*sigh*

Pye Poudre, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thank you very much for the approval!
Hope I will be able to start contributing soon.

nalth, Thursday, 15 March 2007 20:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Okay - my hamster just died, Some asshole hit my car while it was parked on the street - oh, and last night I was doing laundry and I was so excited because I found a wet $20 bill in the washer I put it dryer, left it in there overnight (community laundry - this morning I figured out that the 20 I found in the wash was part of the 120 I took out of the bank and stuffed in my pocket and so looked in the dryer hoping to find the other 100 - fucking neighbors....so your rejection is just perfectly timed - at least it wasnt buzzkill -
Anyway, the hamster, the car, even the missing money - those things suck, but, I don't take them too personaly - I was the only one who answered the questions and got rejected - and there is no justice in the world - "just us" - not me - bad things always happen to good people - maybe I was just a huge asshole in a past life - anyway, I feel a little better after all this typing - I dont quite have it in me to go through the formality of answering all your oh so meaningful questions again - but I'll give you the truth this time..not that it was all bullshit - my name is susan, I fucking hate los angeles (I'm sick of ferraris, fake boobs, stupid people and constant fucking sunshine - I miss the east coast) I could care less about defining rockism - Wikipedia has it all but does that word really exist? I guess so but it will be in my vocab - I suppose its the equivalent of me saying "that rocks" - but I don't really know what that means - I'm a great scrabble player but I'm no fucking Webster Dictionary - so I bullshit - I apologize - moving on I have no favorite picture of Cat Power - Do most people have a favorite picture of anyone - I don't even have a favorite pictue of my mom - but whatever - I've even include bonus pic of fiona apple and yours truly - please no neg comments about it (dont be mean) - I just want you know the face of whom you're crushing. Moving on , I also don't care to write an essay on Deerhoof or Steven whatever his name is but I do have a CD from both artists in my itunes library and if I had to delete one I'd delete Deerhoof - Ideally I'd keep one song from each - the rest of the songs are probably taking up space that could be better utilized - but ayway, my only sincere regret is that I lied about the albums "that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week" - and I think its an invasive question but, I guess oink can ask whatever they want - I'm a heterosexual female, I speak only one language (really) but I can say hello in several - I think yellow might be my favorite color and I'm not sure what I want to be when I grow up - I went to catholic school - I'm not a practicing catholic - I believe in something? - and I feel feel guilty eating pasta and donuts - but I think I like pasta - I'm not so sure sure about donuts - the last three CDs downloaded from me: Neil Young, Dire Straits and Alanis Morissette...I just want one invite - I won't bother you again
peace in the middle east

sjfecher, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh forgot the pic
[IMG]http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/sjfecher/us.gif[/IMG]

sjfecher, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Fuck
http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p11/sjfecher/us.gif

sjfecher, Friday, 16 March 2007 03:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

waited the 4-5 days after approval but haven't gotten anything...is it possible that my approval got lost like nictric's? thanks.

uno1212, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

susan, best response yet. i would totally give you an oink invite if i could. i don't use oink, though.

Lingbert, Friday, 16 March 2007 04:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'll send you one lingy

Pablo A, Friday, 16 March 2007 05:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) nictric
b) nicholas
c) 34
d) male
e) sydney


1) Ministry of Sound Housexy, David Bowie - The Rise and fall of Ziggy, New Order - Low Life

2) What is rockism? (Rockism seems to be according to wiki and other various musical sites, essentially, the rather strong belief/mindset/attitude okay, an ideology to rock music. Disco, no, Techno, heavens no and anything technologically synthy that is void of a good old guitar or drums section, no. Maybe I - dread the thought - actually agree therefore with The Buggles on Video killed the Radio Star. Source - Slate contributor Douglas Wolk, wrote in Seattle Weekly that rockists regard rock as "normative … the standard state of popular music … to which everything else is compared, explicitly or implicitly"

Rockism is now discussed among critics as a viable way of examining of how they write their reviews and how they are absorbed into the mainstream or perceived by us, the consumers.

3) http://www.notontheguestlist.com/blog/images/notgl_cp_color.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens - his music is soft and subtle and his voice is one of those voices that makes you feel all floaty. he looks rather floaty too and i like that.

5) How many invites do you require? just one , thanks


nictric, Friday, 16 March 2007 07:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

nitric = DENIED - not enough sentances in sufjan vs. deerhoof essay.

please re-apply next year.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 16 March 2007 08:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

accepted = awesome, though, feeling rather slow and unsure as to how to actually login? should i have an email with password or something?

jinja, Friday, 16 March 2007 09:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

thanks for the invite! what is a ratio?

jergincito, Friday, 16 March 2007 09:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) nictric
b) nicholas
c) 34
d) male
e) sydney


1) Ministry of Sound Housexy, David Bowie - The Rise and fall of Ziggy, New Order - Low Life

2) What is rockism? (Rockism seems to be according to wiki and other various musical sites, essentially, the rather strong belief/mindset/attitude okay, an ideology to rock music. Disco, no, Techno, heavens no and anything technologically synthy that is void of a good old guitar or drums section, no. Maybe I - dread the thought - actually agree therefore with The Buggles on Video killed the Radio Star. Source - Slate contributor Douglas Wolk, wrote in Seattle Weekly that rockists regard rock as "normative … the standard state of popular music … to which everything else is compared, explicitly or implicitly"

Rockism is now discussed among critics as a viable way of examining of how they write their reviews and how they are absorbed into the mainstream or perceived by us, the consumers.

3)http://www.notontheguestlist.com/blog/images/notgl_cp_color.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens - his music is soft and subtle and his voice is one of those voices that makes you feel all floaty. he looks rather floaty too and i like that as his music makes me feel like floating and riding with the wind of winter, and too expand on that which is already known, I find his musical style experimental, yet derivative of such artists as bjork or tori amos. I originally posted this application and mentioned I'd like to purchase his album, when I had enough money. His songs, especially sister winter was what grabbed me, rather than deerhoof, as they were a little too experimental for me and i already have st etienne as my experimental love. I trust that this amendment to my lost application by your Australian office will suffice for my reposted application, which posted surfjan stevens unfinished....

5) How many invites do you require? just one , please.








nictric, Friday, 16 March 2007 09:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

I see you have already begun to take advantage of our wonderful music sharing service by dowloading the Bright Eyes Box Set. Be sure to check out many of his live recording that we have available.

I just grabbed the 9/14/97 surprise show in San Diego -- IMPECCABLE!! You can truly feel where Conor's heart is on that night -- as well as the tension in the crisp autumn air!!

You know I've told all my friends that I have it -- and I'm DEFINITELY NOT SHARING. LOLOLOLOLLOL:):):):)

Confounded, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

The sting of this rejection continues to eat away at the discarded candy-wrapper I call my heart.

So, curse you!, administrators of prank file-sharing site! Curse you for belonging to the vast and largely unfriendly Societey of the Anti-Me. Curse you and all your knock-kneed generations with the rending of garments and the gnashing of unbrushed teeth. Off-brand cosmetics in your nostrils and, forevermore, the taste of ashes in your mouths.

Etc.

Pye Poudre, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:20 (ten years ago) Permalink


a) requested username - yespleez
b) first name (no surnames) - sarah
c) age - 27
d) gender - female
e) geographic location - London, UK / NYC, USA


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week :
1. Sufjan Stevens - A Sun Came 2. Hole - Pretty please ( bootleg) ....one of the best i have of them !
3. Plastikman - Nostalgik 1

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum) .

Rockism is the desire to return to the basics.
The holy trinity of guitar, drums and bass re-asserting itself at the heart of the music and its creators. A prime example would be the Stooges and in particular Iggy pop's atavistic approach to both performance and recording and life. Living the music, if you will, and the desire for authenticity. No bs approach typifies this. Female bands like Hole and L7 re-defined the male stranglehold on such things....Grrrll power asserted itself and let it be known that this was for all. Most bands when starting out had this ideal ....even early U2 were lauded for the stripped down clarity of their approach and sound. Invariably time moves on
and these band are no longer hungry or start to diversify..leaving true rock-ism behind for another generation. Not always the case but hence the search for the next new thing....with all the verve and excitement it promises.


3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.notes.co.il/david/user/Cat%20power.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Sufjan Stevens connects with me more emotionally when I feel like being reflective ...but on the whole
I'd have to say Deerhoof. Being a Hole fan also sways me towards them. Their approach is still fresh, none were trained/skilled musicians and they make decisions democratically. That has to influence the music and its intent. The foregoing of accepted song structure is exciting and challenging. Stevens is about lushness and orchestration ........Deerhoof just go for it ! Reminds me of the
original punk ideals of '76 - the spirit of '76. Satomi is waay more assured than earlier and it just feels like the whole thing is getting stronger - 'Friend Opportunity' is never far from the stereo. Gotta get all their other stuff now.

5) How many invites do you require? Just ONE. Though if I could have TWO ( one for a friend... that'd be even better., thanks)

yespleez, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hi Oink Admins!

Sorry about the offensive user name, I would like to change my requested user name to recspecs. Thanks and I look forward to joining the Oink community should you allow me.

Thanks again!
-Dave

fat-latvian, Friday, 16 March 2007 15:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

a. untilted
b. jekabs
c. 35
d. male
e. latvia

1. Maitreya Kali - Apache & Inca, This Heat - Deceit, Boris & Mitchio Kurihara - Rainbow
2. rockism is a style of music journalism and general perception of popular music. i think steve coogan in tv series "saxondale" shows a perfect example of that kind of ... thinking about things. if you think pink floyd is the last great band in the world, you most likely are "rockist", y'know. or that after sex pistols there is no future for other bands. if you are a proper rockist you should know as well that any music that is created using computer is no music whatsoever. it's synthetic crap. in other words - the beatles was the last real rockband.
3. i don't like cat power, so i don't have favorite cat power picture.
4. deerhoof. because I'm just not into stevens style of music. though I'm not into deerhoof either. but they at least make some noisy and improvised stuff (which I am quite into). and they have japanese girl. in fact i could better describe why I like black dice better than animal collective, because i know a bit more about them than about sufjan stevens or deerhoof.
5. one

jeek, Friday, 16 March 2007 16:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nicholas = we said next year.

Your IP now has a permanent ban placed on it.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

jeek = Please re-post in Latvian.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) BodomBass398
b) Josh
c) 19
d) Male
e) NJ, USA


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
Billy Joel- Greatest Hits Vol I, II, II
Antiflag- The Terror State
Charles Mingus- Mingus Dynasty

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Rockism is the idea that some music is more authentic than others. It was formed in the late 1970's in the British music press. Usually artists that write and perform their own music are considered to be authentic under the ideology of Rockism. Rockism does not like the use of technology like computer based recording studios. It places the value and authenticity in the performance of the artist. A "pop" artist that extensivly uses software instruments and music would not be considered authentic because they are not playing their own music. Typically Rockism music uses the traditional instruments found in rock: guitars, basses, and drums, although other instruments can be used also. The most important factor is that the music is generated by the artist and not the recording engineer.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
Cat Power

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
I perfer Deerhoof because it is Alternative Rock. As a musician (I play electric guitar, and bass) I can relate more to the alternative rock style of Deerhoof than the alternative folk style of Sufjan Stevens. Deerhoof's sound is unique with every song. They always sound original whether they're playing an up-tempo song or a slow ballad. Sufjan Steven's music is slow in contrast to Deerhoof's music. Deerhoof reminds me of one of my favorite bands The Mars Volta. They have an unpredictable sound that can change in the drop of a hat, and that is what makes a great musician. While Sufjan Steven is also a good musician and I like his music, I would choose Deerhoof over Steven anyday.

5) How many invites do you require?
I only need one invite.

Thank you

BodomBass398, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

The cat power link linked to the wrong picture. The right one is here

BodomBass398, Friday, 16 March 2007 20:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

a/ keblerfalls
b/ evan
c/ 19
d/ man
e/ wash, d.c. / twin cities

1/ beauty room- beauty room, boris-pink, great lake swimmers- ongiara
2/ rockism is a self-defeating, formalist's reimagining of taste, a well-intentioned back-to-basics return to auteur authenticity that's mired in luddite-like nostalgia. like dozens of other movements within art and art-criticism (from pre-raphaelites to diy) it advocates an uncompromised truth to self as the basis for creating art, in its case, rock music. to rock, simply, one must rock their own way. it's a pretty simple doctrine by which music can be examined and something that enters a critique of every music. (Nobody likes to hear indulgent heart-on-sleeve lyrics-- when they come out false, that is.) from there, the problems with rockism just multiply, though. is an outside critic really properly situated to evaluate authenticity? and in a genre of music which openly embraces bombast, affectation and reinvention, what the hell is authentic anyway? I mean: David Bowie, Lou Reed, Sgt. Pepper's. three highschoolers or seniors tooling around in a garage may be rockistly perfect, but that's not going to ensure its place as "good rock music."
3/ http://www.tunetribe.com/assets/images/artists/artist_image_3992.bmp
4/ Well, is art for creation or for connection? that's what a Deerhoof v. Sufjan debate would come down to, I think, and for me at least it's connection. So Sufjan. I'd rather brave the bebop and saccharine knowing I'm going hear something that I actually relate to and enjoy-- and likely get sick of after a few listens-- than get mired in a marsh of impersonal, (relatively) pop-less technicality and instrumentation. But I will get sick of it. And then I will listen to Deerhoof. And it will, for a little while, sound a hundred times better.
5/ one

keblerfalls, Friday, 16 March 2007 21:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

WHAT FOLLOWS IS AN ANNOUNCEMENT:

Oink is closed for the weekend. You may still post applications, but you will most likely not get a response until Monday.

Active Members: You will be able to upload and download as usual, enjoying all the awesome benefits an Oink membership has to offer.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 16 March 2007 22:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey Confounded:

Thanks for sharing those super-super-super secret never-ever-ever going to be released Sufjan Stevens tracks remixed by Black Dice!!! I cant believe you actually have them!

g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 16 March 2007 23:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow! great site! Oink Admin cool boy!

am0n, Friday, 16 March 2007 23:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username - JBJakub
b) first name (no surnames) - Jordan
c) age - 20
d) gender - male
e) geographic location - New York, NY and Atlanta, GA (Both US)


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Lettuce - Outta Here
Jimi Hendrix - Electric Ladyland
Bob Dylan - New Morning

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is a pure way of looking at music. What I mean by that is that rockism looks down on music created with synthesizers and programs. Music (in the eyes of rockism) is a pure form of self expression - it's all about the artist (usually both the writer and performer) and the listener. Rockism appreciates original music and believes that the time for "real music" has already passed - it was back in the 60s and 70s. For Rockists, that was the golden age of music, fueled by self expression and sincerity at a time when music was truly appreciated. That is rockism.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i287/melanienicholle/cat-power-font3.jpg

I know you can't see her face, but it's a great photo nonetheless.

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Sufjan Stevens for a few reasons. The first reason is that I don't have much familiarity with Deerhoof. That's pretty basic, and if there are huge fans on here, I apologize in advance. Going on though, I don't think I've seen a more extravagant performance at a concert than I did when I saw Sufjan. The costumes, the atmosphere - it was all great. I'm a big proponent of live music, and Sufjan puts on a great show. To me, that makes a great artist. Also, you've gotta admit that what he's doing is pretty ambitious - trying to put out an album for every single state. That's about it.

5) How many invites do you require?

Just one!

I'm not sure I'm logged in right now, and I'm not sure how to get accepted but please e-mail me at jbjakub(at)gmail if I have been.

Thanks!

JBJakub, Saturday, 17 March 2007 01:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) FruitFly
b) Mel
c) 32
d) Female
e) Cleveland, OH


1) Klaus Nomi - The Star Collection, Life Sex & Death - The Silent Majority, Nick Drake - Made to Love Magic (and that was just in the last few hours... this list could go on forever)

2) Rockism is a holier than thou sentiment expressed by those who know that some music is more real than other. The movement eschews pop music in favor of weighty stuff; stuff that matters. Because some music does matter more. Rockism is a great way to miss out on some good stuff, just because there's a synth somewhere. It gives more credence to, well, Credence than to Kylie. And there's some truth to that, but it's sad that you've never heard "Confide". What a great track. I digress.

A rockist would look through my own CD collection and be aghast at the horrors that abound in the form of cheesetastic pop, but would simultaneously be jealous of a number of the rarities of authenticity to be found.

There are days when I fully embrace rockism, yet last summer I drove 5 hours to see Tiffany perform in a gay dance club. Go figure.

3) Cat Power not looking a thing like Cat Power

4) I've been dreading getting to this question. How can I compare the two and find a reasonable explanation of why I would say one is the better artist? And even if I could, it's really just my silly little opinion isn't it? Some days I might say that Sufjan was was more likely to be on my playlist, and other days Deerhoof. Then there are days that both will be swirling around among the thousands of other possibilities, not to mention the days that I'm not in the mood for either.

In order to actually answer this question, I have to find some defining characteristic that will separate them and give one and edge over the other.

I'll go with Deerhoof. Why? Because Sufjan went and recorded that damned Christmas album. I fucking hate Christmas music. Yes, really. Far too many years working in a retail environment of one kind or another where I was forced to listen to it all over and over again. I don't care how different or how novel or how beautiful Sufjan's versions may be, I will never know. I just can't take it.

But ask me tomorrow, and the answer might be different. And honestly, I'd prefer The Geraldine Fibbers over either of them.

5) I only require the one, si'l vous plait.

FruitFly, Saturday, 17 March 2007 05:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

here are too other user names u can try:

tobb3s
tobb3_

regards

tobb3, Saturday, 17 March 2007 14:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

don't like any of them

jergincito, Saturday, 17 March 2007 14:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Erty
b) Joen
c) 18
d) male
e) Sweden

1) Thrice - The Artist in the Ambulance, Timbuktu - Oberoendeframkallande, The Roots - The Tipping Point

2) Rockism is elitism. The belief that different styles of music aren't equally valid or authentic. Mainly, that rock from the 60's is the pinnacle of human musical achievement and that we've just gone downhill from there. While that might be true in a way (ugh, top40 pop...) it's mostly just stupid and close minded. The prime example of rockism these days is when dumbasses say that hiphop and edm aren't real music genres. And well... when you smoke some good weed and put on a fat hip-hop beat, you know that's just wrong. The same goes when you're trippin and stomping to some nice trance. It doesn't really matter how and when the music was made, what really matters is how it sounds here and now and how it makes you feel.
Rockism should be avoided, because you never know what you might and might not like as long as you keep an open mind and keep listening to new stuff.

3) http://www.spin.com/galleries/2003/12/12/cat_power_2.jpg

4) Honestly, I don't really enjoy either of them all that much. They're both the kind of music that I might like in some sense without really wanting to listen to them very much. That's kinda interesting actually, because there isn't that much music I relate to in that way, at least that I can think of. I guess there's just simply better, more exciting stuff out there. But I guess if I had to choose I'd say Sufjan Stevens. Because I can actually imagine situations where I'd actually want to listen to him for an extended period of time. Like, when trying to sleep or something. Though I prefer something like Sofie Zelmani for that. Anyway, he has a nice voice. Satomi Matsuzaki's voice is original and different and all that, but sadly most of all it's just annoying.

5) Just one.

Erty, Sunday, 18 March 2007 01:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey Confounded:

Thanks for sharing those super-super-super secret never-ever-ever going to be released Sufjan Stevens tracks remixed by Black Dice!!! I cant believe you actually have them!


i have met u on oink and i h8 u. stop steeling my traxx. u have no right to those black remixes. they r 4 elites only

Confounded, Sunday, 18 March 2007 04:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

re-posting in Latvian, as asked

1. Maitreya Kali - Apache & Inca, This Heat - Deceit, Boris & Mitchio Kurihara - Rainbow
2. rokisms ir veids k&#257;d&#257; da&#316;a žurn&#257;listu raksta par m&#363;ziku un liela da&#316;a publikas uztver popul&#257;ru m&#363;ziku. st&#299;vs k&#363;gans tv seri&#257;l&#257; "saxondale" lieliski att&#275;lo š&#257;da veida dom&#257;šanu par
liet&#257;m, tai skait&#257; m&#363;ziku. teiksim, ja tev liekas ka pink floyd ir p&#275;d&#275;j&#257; j&#275;dz&#299;g&#257; roka banda, tu droši vari saukt sevi par "rokistu". vai ka p&#275;c sex pistols nav n&#257;kotnes cit&#257;m band&#257;m. ja tu esi k&#257;rt&#299;gs rokists, tad tev ir j&#257;zin, ka jebkura m&#363;zika, kuras rad&#299;šan&#257; izmantots dators, nav nek&#257;da m&#363;zika bet sint&#275;tisks m&#275;sls. citiem v&#257;rdiem sakot - the beatles bija p&#275;d&#275;j&#257; "&#299;st&#257;" rokbanda.
3. man diezko nepat&#299;k cat power, t&#257;p&#275;c man nav m&#299;&#316;&#257;k&#257;s cat power fotogr&#257;fijas.
4. deerhoof. jo mani &#299;paši neaizrauj sufjana stevensa m&#363;zika. kautgan es neesmu ar&#299; milz&#299;gs deerhoof fans, vi&#326;i vismaz improviz&#275; un trokš&#326;o (t&#257;s ir lieti&#326;as kas man pat&#299;k). un viens no vi&#326;iem ir j&#257;p&#257;niete. &#299;sten&#299;b&#257; es var&#275;tu lab&#257;k aprakst&#299;t kap&#275;c man pat&#299;k lab&#257;k black dice nek&#257; animal collective, jo par šiem abiem es zinu mazliet vair&#257;k nek&#257; par deerhoof un sufjan stevens.
5. vienu

jeek, Sunday, 18 March 2007 07:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

i am sorry, re-posting once more:

1. Maitreya Kali - Apache & Inca, This Heat - Deceit, Boris & Mitchio Kurihara - Rainbow

2. rokisms ir veids kaadaa dalja žurnaalistu raksta par muuziku un liela dalja publikas uztver populaaru muuziku. stiivs kuugans tv seriaa "saxondale" lieliski atteelo shaada veida domaashanu par lietaam, tai skaitaa muuziku. teiksim, ja tev liekas ka pink floyd ir peedeejaa jeedziigaa roka banda, tu esi iists vecis, tu droši vari saukt sevi par "rokistu". vai ka peec sex pistols nav naakotnes citaam bandaam. ja tu esi kaartiigs rokists, tad tev ir jaazin, ka jebkura muuzika, kuras radiišanaa izmantots dators, nav nekaada muuzika bet sinteetisks meesls. citiem vaardiem sakot - the beatles bija peedeejaa iistaa rokbanda.

3. man diezko nepatiik cat power, taapeec man nav miiljaakaas cat power fotograafijas.

4. deerhoof. jo mani iipaši neaizrauj sufjana stevensa muuzika. kautgan es neesmu arii
milziigs deerhoof fans, vinji vismaz improvizee un trokshnjo (taa ir lietinjas kas man patiik). un viens no vinjiem ir japaaniete. iisteniibaa es vareeu labaak aprakstiit kapeec man patiik labaak black dice nekaa animal collective, jo par šiem abiem es zinu mazliet vairaak nekaa par deerhoof un sufjan stevens.

5. vienu

jeek, Sunday, 18 March 2007 07:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

that's not latvian it's estonian u think u can pull shit on oink admins they can smell u a mile away

jergincito, Sunday, 18 March 2007 12:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm a classical musician, so no rock for me.
Anyways, the last three releases:
Alfred Brendel Beethoven Sonatas CDs 1, 2, 3 (FLAC)
Berezovsky Liszt Transcendental Etudes (FLAC)
Harnoncourt Bach Brandenburg Concertos (FLAC)

a) cjustin88
b) Justin
c) 31
d) Male
e) Vancouver BC Canada

1 invite.

Thanks in advance!
I release either APE or FLAC, complete albums usually every month, when I have the bandwidth to seed more.

justin_c, Monday, 19 March 2007 02:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

justin c:

we dont really have any classical music. i can YSI you Bohemian Rhapsody or the string quartet tribute to Green Day, but other than that, i think you're out of luck.

Sorries :-/

Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 05:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, can't we start...
I'm interested in the Virtual instruments section and the ebooks. And some very rare apps (i know you have a app section, i know)

Pretty please?
Thanks

justin_c, Monday, 19 March 2007 05:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

to jergincito:
yes that's estonian, as well as Stockholm is capital of Finland, sure.

jeek, Monday, 19 March 2007 08:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

ummm. still waiting to find out how to actually log on... nothing received to date?? starting to wonder if this is kosher?

jinja, Monday, 19 March 2007 09:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

if its apps and Virtual Instruments you need have you tried magesy.com or audionews.ru?

jinja, Monday, 19 March 2007 09:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

"kosher"

jergincito, Monday, 19 March 2007 10:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Has anyone got a spare invite they can bung my way? Thanks.

Pashmina, Monday, 19 March 2007 13:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

i got you, pash.

g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 19 March 2007 17:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

jinja = as a result of your promoting rival music services, your membership has been revoked and a permanent ban has been placed on your IP address.

jeek = Do not mess with jergincito. He has an impeccible file ratio and is in very high standing in the Oink community. DENIED.

Erty = PENDING. Please provide proof that you are at least 18 years old as some files shared on Oink may be innapropriate for minors.

Fruitfly = DENIED for having a bah humbug attitude (no room for your kind in our community).

tobb3 = your new user name is tttt000ooonbbbbb333

Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 18:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

ok. admin it would be nice to get a more somewhat serious answer :p and if my username is an issue just pick one, for me it really doesn't matter

regards T

tobb3, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

i did pick one for you.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 19:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

hehe ok, just thought it was abit too long.. :p so when do u know that i'm "accepted"

tobb3, Monday, 19 March 2007 20:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

If this is the kind of endless boring administrative help you will need if you become a member there is little chance of you being Approved.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

If I may ask, is it possible that the webmail containing the login directions got lost...?
It has been one week, or 5 business days, since my approval. I’m in no hurry, but it would be nice to start contributing!

BR,
Karl.

nalth, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hmmmmmm.... interesting.

Does anyone else have access to your e-mail box?

Our records show that you'be been an active member for the last 36 hours.

Are you maybe just lying to try and score another invite?

Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

The status of mine please?
Thanks,
Justin C.

justin_c, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hmm, would it be possible to send another email? Maybe it got caught in some spamfilter?

Active member? As in my username has logged in?! That can't be, I haven't received anything...

Strange...

nalth, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

certainly not admin, I'm sorry if I sounded a bit sturdy..

tobb3, Monday, 19 March 2007 21:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

And no, nobody else has access to my inbox, I change passwords frequently.
And no, I'm not fishing for more invites, one is enough for me.

If somebody else has used the invite that was intended for me, or is using the selected username I would very much like to know more about the situation! :(

nalth, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

How interesting, i thought i was helping with different suggestions. I wasn't aware that they were in direct 'competition' with Oink? Audionews is application specific while Magesy are purely Electronic (and dodgy electronic at that) . Though if they are the same then well i'll stick with them so i don't have to jump through hoops for a non existant email by some pimply 16 yr old with a power complex. Cheery Pie...

jinja, Monday, 19 March 2007 22:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

jinja you have no idea how old I am.

Enjoy your Banned Pie.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

nalth:

hmmmm... what does this look like:

Oink!>Admin_Tools>

User_IP_Search>Banned_User_Database_>Pending_Applications>RIAA_Report_Log>User_Info

User_Info>Recent_History

User_nalth:

--Hinder-Lips_Of_An_Angel.mp3 - 192 kps - FROM: User_Confounded @ 14:22 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD COMPLETE
--Fergie-Fergalicious.mp3 - 192 kps - FROM: User_Confounded @ 14:29 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD COMPLETE
--Baby Boy Da Prince-The_Way_I_Live - 192 kps - FROM: User_Lingbert @ 14:45 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD COMPLETE
--Nelly Furtado-Say_It_Right - 192 kps - FROM: User_Pahmina@ 14:45 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD COMPLETE
--Fall_Out_Boy-This_Ain't_A_Scene,_It's_An_Arms_Race.mp3-FROM: User_LilGothCurtls6969@ 14:45 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD


???????

If this is not you, please inform us by using the Admin Request Function on your User Tools Page ASAP!

Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't know what that is, and no, it's not me.
I'm not sure what you want me to do, I don't see a "User Tools Page" anywhere.

nalth, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok, let me run an IP_Search on where the files are being DL'd to. This may take some time.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 19 March 2007 23:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hmmm. This is very suspicious. The downloads are coming from the same IP address as your message board posts.

Are you positive no one else has access to your computer? Any roomates or family members perhaps?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 01:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wait a minute... I think I know what’s going on here.

the real nalth is successfully downloading files using his new Oink membership while his roommate is continuing to post messages here, posing as nalth, trying to score an invite for him/herself!

I am pretty sure that is what is happening but I will have our Scandinavian branch confirm in the morning.

In the meantime....

ATTENTION ALL OINK ADMINS:

PLEASE STOP ALL MESSAGE BOARD OR E-MAIL COMMUNICATION WITH User_nalth IMMEDIATLEY. IT APPEARS AS THOUGH HIS ACCOUNT HAS ALREADY BEEN HACKED. DO NOT COMMUNICATE WITH User_nalth UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE.

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 01:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username
stiky (If not possible, Maphix - please
b) first name (no surnames)
Kiefer
c) age
18
d) gender
Male
e) geographic location
Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Saliva - Blood Stained Love Story
Rise Against - Suffer & The Witness
Nelly Furtado - Loose

(Currently upgraded all my 128 songs to 192 after after 2 yrs of not knowing how to do it =] )

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
It's a loaded word, partly because it means a bunch of different things in practice&#8212;it's yay close to "racism" the way it's sometimes used. For various people, it's a term of praise for avoiding artifice or a description of unadventurous musical tastes or a word for just liking rock a whole lot. But it's also a potentially useful concept for thinking about the way people write about popular music, and the way people experience it. The trick is to figure out exactly what it means.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.statesidepresents.com/images/photos/cat-power-pic.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Sufjan Stevens (born July 1, 1975) is an American musician, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist from Detroit, Michigan. He is known for his lyrically focused and instrumentally rich songs that often relate to faith and family. He has enjoyed wide critical success in the United States. He is considered part of the folk revival in indie pop, but his influences are very broad, including electronica, the jazz of Vince Guaraldi, and the academic minimalism of Steve Reich and Philip Glass.

With all that being said...i just really think he is better and overall more talented.

5) How many invites do you require?
Just 1 actually. :)

For extra info: I currently reside at demonoid and i carry a well earned 3.10 ratio there, you can search me at "stiky" on demonoid to confirm that =] - Don't know if this will help at all, but just to show i do seed. :)

maphix, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

[Repost] - Sorry, i forgot the 8 sentence minimum on the Rockism Subject.

a) requested username
stiky (If not possible, Maphix - please
b) first name (no surnames)
Kiefer
c) age
18
d) gender
Male
e) geographic location
Vancouver Island, British Columbia, Canada

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Saliva - Blood Stained Love Story
Rise Against - Suffer & The Witness
Nelly Furtado - Loose

(Currently upgraded all my 128 songs to 192 after after 2 yrs of not knowing how to do it =] )

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
It's a loaded word, partly because it means a bunch of different things in practice&#8212;it's yay close to "racism" the way it's sometimes used. For various people, it's a term of praise for avoiding artifice or a description of unadventurous musical tastes or a word for just liking rock a whole lot. But it's also a potentially useful concept for thinking about the way people write about popular music, and the way people experience it. The trick is to figure out exactly what it means.

Still, there hasn't beena clear definition of rockism, and I'd like to propose one&#8212;a very narrow one, to keep its meaning from bleeding too far out. Rockism, let's say, is treating rock as normative. In the rockist view, rock is the standard state of popular music: the kind to which everything else is compared, explicitly or implicitly. So, for instance, it's a rockist opinion that pre-stereo-era blues and country are interesting less in their own right than because they anticipated rock, or that Run-D.M.C. and Alison Krauss are notable because their virtues are also the virtues of rock, or that Ciara's Goodies isn't interesting because it fails to act like rock.

Now, the interesting thing about that formulation of "rockism" is that it's not intrinsically rockist to love rock, or to write about it; you can also mostly care about R&B or norteño or bubblegum pop but discuss them in a rockist way. It's hard to get around rockism, though, because it's built into the way people talk informally about whatever kinds of popular music interest them.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.statesidepresents.com/images/photos/cat-power-pic.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Sufjan Stevens (born July 1, 1975) is an American musician, songwriter, and multi-instrumentalist from Detroit, Michigan. He is known for his lyrically focused and instrumentally rich songs that often relate to faith and family. He has enjoyed wide critical success in the United States. He is considered part of the folk revival in indie pop, but his influences are very broad, including electronica, the jazz of Vince Guaraldi, and the academic minimalism of Steve Reich and Philip Glass.

With all that being said...i just really think he is better and overall more talented.

5) How many invites do you require?
Just 1 actually. :)

For extra info: I currently reside at demonoid and i carry a well earned 3.10 ratio there, you can search me at "stiky" on demonoid to confirm that =] - Don't know if this will help at all, but just to show i do seed. :)

maphix, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Do not know why &#8212; keeps popping up.....

maphix, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

lol yeah that's really weird?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 03:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

What about me?

justin_c, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 04:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

"The downloads are coming from the same IP address as your message board posts."
Hah, why even bother posting something like that when you know it's not true.

Well, it was fun while it lasted, sorry to see that this is not the real deal.

nalth, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 07:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

meh.

as little precious indie meta art-ish pranks go, i've seen better than this fake indie music sharing thing -- and also worse.

Mike McGooney-gal, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 08:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanx for that, Grady. Wow, loads of stuff here, I'd better start seeding first, though!
Thanks again.

Pashmina, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 10:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

--Hinder-Lips_Of_An_Angel.mp3 - 192 kps - FROM: User_Confounded @ 14:22 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD COMPLETE
--Fergie-Fergalicious.mp3 - 192 kps - FROM: User_Confounded @ 14:29 18-03-2007 DOWNLOAD COMPLETE


I would like to deny all charges against me.

Confounded, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 18:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

User_LilGothCurtls6969

xd

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) sportman3333333
b) akash
c) 20
d) M
e) CT, USA


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Daniel Powter
The Fray
In the End



2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is when you are valuiing rock music at its best. It is the way you are looking at the music.It is between the listner and the writer. The idea of rockism slowly started around the 70s in England.Rockism sort of relates to racism in a way. When you have a rockism mind, you will always have your ideason what is good and what is bad. Rockism should be avoided, just like racism should be avoided. It is betterto be open-minded and try different things out. It like trying out new stuff, you will see what it is like. Ifyou just see one stuff, you might be missing out on other stuff you like better


3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/02/15/pt_CATPOWER_ent-lead__200x346.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Surjan Stevens because of his lyrics that relate to the family and culture, etc. He a great
range of what he plays and that is what I like. I have heard a few of his lyrics and I
enjoyed them. The 50 state idea, i think it a great idea. The deerhoof's music is not suited for me.His music is everyone that can enjoy and that why I like him better over deerhoofs. He just
manages to get everything done. Waiting for the CT ablum :D.

5) How many invites do you require?

One please


Thank You

sportman3333333, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Am I still able to post an application here?

Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Please do!

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 19:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Pappa Shango
b) Anthony Michael Samson
c) 15
d) male
e) Montana, US

1)The Pouges – If I shoul fall From Grace With God
Primal Scream – XTRMN8TR
DMB - Greatest Hits

2) rockism is the idea of making music through the musician their own creative freedom, rather than through pre-packaged music created by labels or merely for the pop of it. basically, music made for the music, and not to make a quick buck. there is argument that no music is purely made without any commercial thought processes behind it, and that all music has some form of produced aspect to it. but basically the term is for bands that don't go with synthesizers and pro tools to hype up their music, rather they perform on the instruments themselves as well as the lyrics, the band being a huge part of the creation of the music. the term is more for rock or metal bands, which is where the actual term came from. I believe the term also began to be in use in britain, where people began preferring this over pop music. think of rock bands in the 80s, and you'd get a good idea of what this whole movement is. pop music is the opposite of this.

3) http://myspace-541.vo.llnwd.net/00375/14/51/375041541_l.jpg

4) Hmm, I like both. Deerhoof has this continual beat that makes you want to nod along to it. It actually reminds me of an art exhibit I attented a couple of years ago called "Cloud City" by FriendsWithYou, where they had this background music to set an installatio they considered a playgound. I am a sucker for the guitar though, and Sufjan Stevens is a lot like the music I listen to. It's much mellower, and his voice compliments the music beautifully. Ultimately, I would probably go with Sufjan Stevens on a day where I'm being told I can only pick from these two artists. Then again, I could definitely find myself listening to Deerhoof on days where I need to vacuum the house. I'm not sure... I guess I can't decide really. They both have their themes and sounds that make them the artists they are. I can really get into the fact that they both have their own sound, and it doesn't quite remind me of other artists today- unless we're going to mix bands together to get their sound.

5) just one.

i really hope I can find out if I'm in soon!

Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

wait, can I change number three?

http://trouble.philadelphiaweekly.com/archives/cat%20power%20by%20shawn%20mortenson.jpg

Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

ok seriosuly, this one is my answer for number three lol sorry for changin my mind.

http://www.nuyorker.com/fotos/cat%20power.jpg

Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

sportman3333333 = please provide album titles
Anthony Michael Samson = APPROVED. Username and Password being confirmed now and will be sent shortly.

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Pash-

You're welcome! I'm going to DL that Arcade Fire/ Rapture/Strokes collab from you tonight!!!!!!!!!!

g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

No Problem

Back in Black, (192KBPS)
Metallica
pink floyd the wall

All 192KBPS

sportman3333333, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

hmmmm.

I'm still a little perplexed. Which Back in Black album and which Metallica album?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 20:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sorry for the trouble and thank you for the reply

AC-DC - Back In Black (Atlantic ‘80)
Metallica - Ride The Lightning

hmmmm, did i miss anything else? ~Akash

sportman3333333, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok now it makes sense but please, in the future, proofread!

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Okay No Problem

I will wait now :D

sportman3333333, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

OK coolz.

;-)

g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) dgiraffe
b) david
c) 20
d) male
e) valencia, los angeles, california

1) Killers - Sams Town / Zero 7 - the garden / The Knife - Silent Shout
2) Rockism, is the belief that only the "sincere" artists are deserved credit. The lines are drawn between "real artists" who express themselves only as a means for self-release or self expression and those who are in it to "make a buck". It generalizes most of the 60s and 70s as the "lost golden years" and discredits much of the 'post-discovery' music. While I agree that music will never be the same/as good as it was back in the day (IMOP the overexploitation of sexiness in the pop world, and dismissal of it in the modern rock world) i do not agree with the belief that everything made to make a dollar isnt "good". When a blatantly commercial album such as "futuresex/lovesounds" comes out, in rockism it is grounds for dismissal as a legitimate piece of art, however, expressing ones need to dance or "bring sexy back" is just as a legitimate form of self release as many critically solid albums. Furthermore, it can mean something special to someone, even if that someone is unknowingly part of consumerist machine that recycles money and the same albums constantly. Rockism also disregards the new musics of the last twenty years (hip hop, trance, techno, post-rock) and many of these musics serve an important cultural purpose for different american societies. What this argument against new musics ends in is a strong importance of genuine artistry mostly focused on white male songwriters. I believe this is racist, basically saying that white people are allowed to "get it on, bang a gong" with critical recognition while those in the corners trying to escape their troubles "by partying/drinking bacardi like its their birthday" are stupid. All music serves a genuine purpose sociologically, whether for escapism, protest, or tradition. In conclusion, id definitely rather spend my money trying to support bands like lightning bolt than buy the new chingy single, but i dont feel the need to look down on people who do.
3) [image]http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/images/news/images/cat_power.jpg{/image]
she kind of has a linda ronstadt-silk purse thing going on in this one.
4) deerhoof. I may be a little biast as a former san franciscan. deerhoofs music is exciting and loud and experimental and new, like freejazz. It makes me really happy when a band can be a geographic reference point, (the san francisco noise sound) and also rise above being much better than that. Nobody has really got it quite as down in that respect of music as much as them, especially because they are loud and noisy. For me, any thing that blazes along the path that sonic youth blazed "pop music+dissonance+guitars=great" is super awesome music. Sufjan, and i think this this is just me, scares me. I know hes got this sort of cute thing going on, and everyones all gaga over it, but i think there is some alterior motive. 50 albums about every state, sufjan? thats too ambitious. So much that i get the feeling that he is going to try to take over the world, overthrow the government and start world war 3. That may sound a little crazy, and nobody believes me, but you will all see, hes a very ambitious young man.
5) Just one please!

davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh sorry, i posted the picture wrong, here you go:
http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/images/news/images/cat_power.jpg

davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Its cool, Davis. Dont stress out over it or anything.

You seem to have put a lot of time and effort into your Rockism essay. Where did you gather your info from?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

i dont know, i just kind of looked up what rockism was (i was familiar with the idea but not neccessarily the term) and then just said a bunch of things i thought should be said (i have alot of built up hatred for rock critics, especially pitchfork ones. but thats a whole different story)

davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

If you think Pitchfork is bad, try reading Stylus some time!

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

no thank you, i consider it a blessing that i have never heard of stylus. but i did just go over there and check out "Top Ten Musical Signifiers (Almost) Guaranteed To Make Me Fellate A Record Regardless Of Its Quality". what an arbitrary and weird list.

davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 21:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

If You think Nick Southall is bad, try reading Dom Passantino!

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok, proof that I'm over 18... well, that's kinda hard to provide over the internet unless I give out my personal details. Will this suffice? Notice the first name on the card and my beautiful writing.
http://img.waffleimages.com/4f6021bc0da4da85d475249132a5d1491a4623cf/DSC00113.JPG

Erty, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok that didn't work well, here's a link instead.
click

Erty, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

stet- please make that the background image 4 this thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

Argh, stupid goons ruining it for the rest of the internet :(

Please work

Erty, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Erty - You are without a doubt 100% APPROVED!


(we love you too!)

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

it seems like a majority of music journalism is turning into lifestyle magazines for aging hipsters. consider me about to dig a hole in the ground with my copy of 'grown up all wrong', everyones invited

davedestroybox, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 22:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thats precisely why we have such a strict Application Process for our invites.

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 20 March 2007 23:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

justin c:

1) please re-read the application guidelines at the top of the thread.
2) go back a look at what you posted.
3) you tell me if you are approved or not.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 04:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Anthony Michael Samson, your username is Gargamel's_Asshole

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 04:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

OK, cool, as long as I'm in!!!!

What is my password?

Anthony Michael Samson, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 04:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

your password is: KKlYyUuUfff5566644DDDDDDssssss

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 05:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

holy s**t!!! i cant believe this is real!

i just started dowloading all kinds of stuff.

thanks Oink! I promise to keep a respectible ratio!

Anthony Michael Samson, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 06:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

A)dthemora
B)dora
C)27
D)female
E)Crete Island, Greece

1) Thom Yorke - The eraser, Kristin Hersh - Hips and makers, Therapy - infernal love
2)Rockism is quite the opposite of pop music, in fact a criticism to popular music. Rockism is an ideology which supports musicians who make music for the music. Musicians who want to express their feelings, composers who compose authentic music.
Rockism is opposed to any kind of music is not genuine. That's why it's opposed to trip-hop for example, because it's hip-hop with any other kind of music, eg rock n' roll. That makes trip-hop not genuine, so against rockism beliefs.
Rockism mostly supports rock and metal music. That would explain and the term.
3) http://www.musicsnews.com/content_images/cat%20power.jpg
4)Deerhoof can give me the beat I need when I do other things. Helps me not to get bored when for example doing the dishes :) His music has that thing that gives you energy. It certainl keeps you awake.
Sufjan Stevens is more melodic. His voice is more melodic and "married" perfectly with the music.
I find them different so not easy to compare.
Do I really have to choose? :)
5)one

Thank you.

dthemora, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 12:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's true: Deerhoof can give you the beat you need when you do other things. :) :) :)

Confounded, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 14:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

@Confounded
Yeap! :) Happily music has many branches.
There are musics that are just upraise you.
Musics that can change the way you feel and even the way you think (who can doudt that whoever composer or musician can do that is a really great artist? :) ). I feel that way about radiohead. :)
Musics that are ruined with bad lyrics. Such as Therapy. I love Therapy's music but I don't find any meaning on their provocative lyrics. They don't shock me or anything, I just don't find any meaning.

As we mentioned Rockism above, I don't believe in genuine music but in genuine artists.
Approximately 6 months ago I discovered a band called MIG. It's a trip-hop group located in France. I liked their music so I searched for their album but I couldn't find them anywhere in Greece. After a lot of search I found the singer's mail. I told her that I want their albums but I don't own credit card to purchase their albums through internet. Well, she send me the albums from France without asking any money! If that's not genuine then what is it?

Excuse me for the irrelevant to that thread post but bands like these worth at least a mention, don't you think? :)

dthemora, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 15:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

dthemora:

That is truly a heart-warming story. Thank you for sharing!

But if you are getting free CDs from artists so easily, what need do you have for a file-sharing service such as ours?

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thank you :)
Just happened once. :)
I'm using torrents to download software and music alot. I can't afford to pay 20 euro/CD. As for the MIG, to tell you the truth, firstly I searched for torrents but I couldn't find any.
I hope my english make sense.. :)

dthemora, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 17:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yes YES.

You are communicating very clearly. Thank you for requesting that your invite be given to someone less fortunate so that they may discover new exciting music as you have already.

If you have extra cds, please send them our way.

Efharistoomay!

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Efharistoomay

GREAT! :) :)
If you have extra cds, please send them our way

Of course I will as soon as I get to OiNK. ;)

Efharisto! Filia(=kisses) :)

dthemora, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

dthemora, you make oinking fun

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey Oink

I do not want hurry up your process but I am just wondering cuz i got a little curious but when you said I had to improve on my responses, did I get rejected. I am still waiting tho :). I just want to clarify that, thnx.

Thank You, Akash

sportman3333333, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thank you! :)
You are nice! ;)

dthemora, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 18:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) magrudergrind
b) Anthony
c) 17
d) Male
e) South Dakota, United States


1)

Millencolin - Pennybridge pioneers - (193kbps)

Leeway - Born to Expire - (195kbps)

Emperor - Anthems To The Welkin At Dusk [Remastered] - (320kbps)



2)

Rockism is a word that would describe the musical genre of rock and
roll. It consists of the basic rock guitar, guitar bass, and drums,
but it's more of an authentic popular pop music that fits the
construction of true rock and roll. It originated in Britain and it is
the orientation of criticizing popular music. Rockism uses technology
such as synthesizers and pro-tool styles and computer program systems.
This type of music places value toward the composer and the artist;
which they use their music as a strong form of self-expression.
Rockism is the complete opposite of manufactured "pop" music because
manufactured pop music isn't written for self-expression but more for
how well the music sells and how well it can be pushed as a "product".
Not only that, but the pop stars have little to no input in what is
happening to their music and that is not what rockism is about.
Rockism is to express all of the feelings you have into one great song
and you get to choose how your song sounds and how you put it out to
all of your fans. One way to put rockism greatly is that one time in
history, people and musicians just got the music right.


3)


http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m253/itrustmyguitaretc/43524688029_16383.jpg







4)

Sufjan Stevens is a famous folk/electronica artist compared to
Deerhoof who plays harsh sounding music. Stevens' music is
extraordinary because he isn't like every type of music that is out
there. His music like his name is very creative; while Deerhoof also
has creative lyrics their music completely throws me off, I enjoy
Stevens' calm beautiful lyrics. His lyrics are not only out there but
very creative and I love listening to that. You can tell that he
enjoys doing what he's doing because he seems to put his heart and
soul into his music, and you can see that lyrically. I also enjoy the
fact that everything he writes about he creatively ties his family and
God into his lyrics and I am amazed by that. Deerhoof has tightly
composed songs and doesn't seem to loosen up and just have a fun
performance that Stevens does. He is such a genius that he has decided
to write a CD for each state and no one comes up with things like
this. He is brilliant with his music and is so creative that you can't
help but to love his music and what he comes up with. And that's why I
think Sufjan Stevens is one of the best folk artists out there.



5) I require 1 Oink invite

anthony, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 19:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

:) ;)

am0n, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 20:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

sportman33333333333333333333:

You did get rejected. But you may re-apply in 90 days.

Thanks, and hope to see you again soon.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

anthony:

I think that is the first time we have seen that Cat Power photo. Where did you find it? Are you even positive it is indeed Cat Power?

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username

ERROR

b) first name (no surnames)

ERROR

c) age

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d) gender

ERROR

e) geographic location

MONTREAL

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

404 ERROR SITE NOT FOUND
YOUR LOGIN SESSION HAS TIMED OUT
THE PAGE DOES NOT EXIST


2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

ERROR

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

[Removed Illegal Image]

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

ERROR

5) How many invites do you require?

ERROR

404 Error: Page Not Found, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

404 Error: Page Not Found, banned for 270 days for being from Montreal.

Lingbert, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

can an admin put this into effect?

Lingbert, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

404 Error: Page Not Found, banned forever for being from Montreal.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 21:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was about to tell that I got a invite from a forum i requested, I am now a member of oink.

It no problem now since I got rejected. Oink is awesome. sweet

Thanx Anyway

sportman3333333, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

Can you link to this other forum?

Many Thanks!

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here is my last.fm scrobbler!

http://imagegen.last.fm/OldPaperOArtist/oartists/walruss.gif

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

It was http://www.edgeofnowhere.cc/

there people in there who have invites. :)

sportman3333333, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 22:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks for resource!

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 23:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

You misspelled resoure

Lingbert, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 23:34 (ten years ago) Permalink


I think that is the first time we have seen that Cat Power photo. Where did you find it? Are you even positive it is indeed Cat Power?



I am certain it is. I created a website in class about musical influences and i used that picture as a link to her wikipedia page. I found this picture posted in a review section on a page called mercurialsound.com which was a music review and show notification site. the site has been closed or isn't working right now but the image is hosted through photobucket. I have chosen this because she looks angry and somewhat powerful. I can post a less favorite picture if you would like me to

:)


thanks for the consideration thus far

anthony, Wednesday, 21 March 2007 23:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

:) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : )

am0n, Thursday, 22 March 2007 02:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) px2
b) paul
c) 18
d) male
e) oregon, i love you


1) We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank - Modest Mouse
Fingerprince - The Residents
Ege Bamyasi - Can

2) A mystical process by which the next saviour of rock is chosen. Every three-and-a-half years it is performed by the Grand Cabal of Reviewers from an undisclosed location. About as underground as it comes, little is known of the members of this secretive cult, though some say Pitchfork has recently managed to weasel their way in. Rumours abound of chanted incantations and epic musical orgies, but little birdies tend to agree that it mostly involves sitting around, smoking fags, and BSing like a blind cat loaded on methamphetamine. For it hath been foretold that our lord The Velvet Underground might rise again. And lo, their reincarnated spirit shall spit flaming guitars upon the world, waves of blissful distortion expunging the land of our putrid clear-channel oppressors. And upon the release of their fourth LP, rapture shall take hold, a Stairway to Heaven rising tall. For it is written, and thus it shall be.


3) I'm oh-so-tempted to hunt down a picture symbolizing some sort of metaphorical union between PETA and the Civil Rights movement. But that sounds hard, and I'm lazy.

http://www.matadorrecords.com/images/cat_power/smoking.jpg

-cuz she makes for a convincing enough boy that I want to do her...and cuz I'm totally a pothead.

4) Is any artist truly "better?" I think about the objective versus the subjective a lot. I guess I do believe in objective markings of excellence, but as of now I have not been able to find a consistent and coherent platform to base that idea upon. So: I like Deerhoof. Their music is challenging. It's weird (A+ in my Book of Personal Taste). Their lead singer subverts the standard paradigm of what a "good singer" should sound like. And, hey, they still retain the ability to write catchy tunes. Complicating this is the fact that Sufjan is a badass, managing to expand the musical vocabulary of pop music with intelligence and beauty. He's also really cute, what with that buck-toothed charm. But Deerhoof have "Siriustar." And so they win. Arbitrary subjectivity at its best.

5) One is all my heart desires.

Wheeeeeee. That was kind of fun. Thanks for making this so easy to find. I have, like, non-existant social networking skills, so there was no chance of me finding someone willing to drop an invite upon my sorry ass.

Px2, Thursday, 22 March 2007 04:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks for making this so easy to find.

We try.

;-)

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 22 March 2007 04:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

But the question remains: is S&M really worth it?

Px2, Thursday, 22 March 2007 08:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh. I get it now. Hah. I should've read the whole thing... Course by the time I remembered to check back, everything was all taken care of anyway.

Can't believe you guys keep this going. I still fucking hate Xmas music.

FruitFly, Thursday, 22 March 2007 08:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

them's fighting words to lingbert. u banned!

jergincito, Thursday, 22 March 2007 09:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

But the question remains: is S&M really worth it?


????????????????????????????????????

g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 22 March 2007 17:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

@admin,

Yes YES.

You are communicating very clearly. Thank you for requesting that your invite be given to someone less fortunate so that they may discover new exciting music as you have already.

If you have extra cds, please send them our way.

Efharistoomay!

I told you that my english are terribly weak.. :thumbs:
That was ironic, right?

dthemora, Thursday, 22 March 2007 17:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

I feel much shame.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

???????????????????????????????????

i thought it was rather self-explanatory, but look here:

ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM IS TOO FUCKING LONG

Px2, Thursday, 22 March 2007 22:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) jelliebean,
b) Rachel,
c) 23,
d) female,
e) Kentucky, US,

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week, We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank - Modest Mouse, Silent Shout - The Knife, 9- Damien Rice,

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum), Rockism is like any other ism. It's the idea that certain genres of rock, or certain artists or bands are supierior to others. Rockism differs from the other ism though, in that there's an actual basis for the assertations of superiority. Certain musicians and genres are superior because they make real music, music that is expressive, creative and free of the confines of pop music. Rockism condemns musicians that don't create their own music and labells them as unauthentic. Rockism, really, is the advancement of true, genuine, good music. That's all I have to say, though I have two more sentences to fill up. I could quote something from the wikipedia entry on rockism like everyone else has, but I won't.,

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power,
http://harpmagazine.com/img/articles/200602_086.jpg,

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum), Uhhhh. That's not easy to decide. Sufjan is folk with a twist. His music is simple, yet is emotinal and evocative. Sufjan also wins points for being cute and having completely orginal titles for his songs. Deerhoof is more upbeat. Definatley creative, different, but for me way less emotional. While I definatly think Deerhoof are talented and awesome, music speaks to me on an emotional level, so I guess I'd pick Sufjan's more mellow more emotive songs.,

5) How many invites do you require?, Just 1. Pretty pretty please

jelliebean, Thursday, 22 March 2007 23:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Deerhoof Reveille OOP Handmade by the Band
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170093402800

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v292/therealdonahue/deerhoof.jpg

Own a piece of indie rock history with this masterpiece. Handmade by the band. Limited to 500 copies. Deerhoof IS indie rock right now. Don't be surprised if this records sells for Propellerean quantities in a few years. e-mail me for shipping prices -Ross

Question from corniefuxx0r
would you say this is investment grade vinyl? (please feel free to add your answer to the listing)

Response from therealdonahue
Wow. I don't know. The sleeve has some scratches. It's not in mint condition.

▒█▄█ ▄▄ ▒█▄█, Friday, 23 March 2007 01:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

dthemora, you make oinking fun


This then means that I make people laugh at me. I have to say that there's nothing special about me.

I feel much shame.


No bad feelings :)

Bye..

dthemora, Friday, 23 March 2007 06:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

dthemora don't go

Lingbert, Friday, 23 March 2007 06:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Don't worry, dthemora, they can't be laughing too hard at their half-baked attempts.

I just took 50 mg of DXM, and my hands and feet are itching vapid masticating tiger stripe baby.

Dame un cachito pa'huele. Las lomos de New Jersey. EL GAUCHO ROJO!!!

Px2, Friday, 23 March 2007 08:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Buy Cheap MP3 - $0.22 is it much????

Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

dthemora = IN FOR LIFE
Px2 = BANNED FOR LIFE

Oink Administrator, Friday, 23 March 2007 21:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

But...I'm still here. Whoops.

Px2, Saturday, 24 March 2007 04:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

dthemora don't go

Lingbert, you are very sweet! :)

dthemora = IN FOR LIFE

Thank you admin :)

dthemora, Saturday, 24 March 2007 16:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

:) :) :)

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 24 March 2007 18:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

D: D: D:

don't forget to tell him his password

Px2, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username : Arkane
b) first name : Jason
c) age : 17
d) gender : Male
e) geographic location : New Mexico, USA


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
Third Eye Blind - Third Eye Blind, System of a Down - Mezmerize, Incubus- Light Grenades

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Rockism is an ideology that emphasizes authenticity as a component of popular music. Rockism is wary of the use of technology in music because it poses a threat to authenticity. Those who embrace rockist ideals feel that such technology leads to music without soul. They believe music has the ability to change lives through raw expression of emotion and truth, but only "authentic" music can do so. As its name would imply, Rockism feels rock is a pure creation of art which reflects upon the Romantic ideals of an artist. Music like pop is shunned by rockists because its repetitive and has a fake atmosphere to it. The common view amongst rockists is that pop embodies everything rock should not be--mass produced, commercialized, and dehumanized. Rockists not only dislike pop, though; in the 1980s, UK critics felt metal music was unauthentic because it promoted commercialism and distance from the audience. In general, rockism places an exceedlingly heavy emphasis on authenticity in music, and unsurprisingly, favors the rock genre.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/85/247795411_23a696580e_o.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
I feel Sufjan Stevens is a better artist. I really feel Deerhoof is limited by Satomi's singing style. They have a lot of nice, albeit unconventional, rhythms going on in their songs, but Satomi's voice really doesn't seem to fit in with the music. Even though they've been together from 1994, their music really plays them off as slightly unorganized--almost like they are testing out a new style with new band members. On the other hand, this is, expectedly, not seen in Sufjan Steven's music since he is the only one making it. I feel his talent shows in his use of multitrack recording to create a song that is well structured and flows very well. I enjoy listening to the more mellow of Sufjan's tracks, as opposed to his upbeat ones. It is in these songs that Sufjan's vocal capabilities really shine. For me, vocals play a large part in whether I enjoy music or not, and whereas Deerhoof seems limited by them, Sufjan Stevens thrives on them.

5) How many invites do you require?
I would like one for myself.

Thanks for consideration.

Arkane, Saturday, 24 March 2007 21:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Arkane, you were rejected before you even thought about posting.

Take your faggotry elsewhere.

Oink Administrator (sanskript), Saturday, 24 March 2007 22:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Just in case my post got lost in the shuffle, I was told that my approval was pending, and that I should request a different user name because some people might consider "fat-latvian" offensive. I would like my user name to be "recspecs" if it's not already taken.

I've waited a little over a week and haven't heard anything. As such, was I rejected? If so, can I re-apply at some point in the future?

Thanks so much for your help!
-Dave (fat-latvian, hopefully soon to be recspecs)

fat-latvian, Saturday, 24 March 2007 22:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dave, you need to re-register under your desired user-name here before we can proces your request for Oink.

Sorry for not being clear before.

;-)

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 25 March 2007 03:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm wondering if it is the same thing for me? that I have to re-register? or have I just been rejected? thought I should wait some time but I haven't got any answer since you gave me a nickname.

thx for even taking your time:)

tobb3, Sunday, 25 March 2007 10:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobb3:

i thought you were all good to go.

didnt you get your sign-in info three days ago???????????????

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 25 March 2007 12:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

no? just got a username here, but nothing has been sent to my email (password and so forth)

tobb3, Sunday, 25 March 2007 12:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think you are mistaken.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 25 March 2007 12:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'll spend my day off tomorrow trying to figure out what went wrong, but I am positive your account was cleared days ago.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 25 March 2007 13:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't think I really understand what you mean with that? you mean you have sent info to my mail tobb3s@gmail.com?

thx for the very fast reply:)

tobb3, Sunday, 25 March 2007 13:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Check back here in 24 hours.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 25 March 2007 13:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

jesus tobb

jergincito, Sunday, 25 March 2007 20:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobb:

Ok you are all set.

Thanks for your patience, and Happy Oinking!

Oink Administrator, Monday, 26 March 2007 08:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobb is not jesus

he is god

Px2, Monday, 26 March 2007 09:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm sorry but I haven't received anything on my mail :( sorry for causing so much extra work for you guys :S Am I doing something wrong maybe?

regards tobb3

tobb3, Monday, 26 March 2007 15:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sorry for the wait tobb, and thanks for being patient.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 26 March 2007 16:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

hmm..my inbox i still empty..maybe there's something wrong with my mail-account? if u have time you can send med the invite to tobb3_@hotmail.com and again thx for everything!

best regards tobb3

tobb3, Monday, 26 March 2007 18:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok it looks like its all cleared up now- You should be good to go.

Again, sorry for all the confusion.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 26 March 2007 19:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Now I'm starting to feel very stupid But I have seriously nothing in my inbox..checked both my mails and their trashpost and nothing :(:(:( starting to think I'm crazy :s

regards tobb3.

tobb3, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Admin, you are just making fun of us, aren't you?

dthemora, Monday, 26 March 2007 20:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

dthemora- you didnt get your invite yet?

Oink Administrator, Monday, 26 March 2007 21:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

:) :) No... But I like you..
I imagine you as a person who, even when he is joking, he has a serious look at his face..
I adore that! :) I can never do it though..

dthemora, Monday, 26 March 2007 22:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

UPDATE: Conrad is officially trippin' balls on this thread.

Confounded, Monday, 26 March 2007 23:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

who else do you like, dthemora?

Lingbert, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 00:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hi Oink Admins!

This is the user formerly known as fat-latvian, now known as recspecs81 (recspecs was taken).

If I need to repost my application let me know, otherwise I'll just wait to hear from you all.

Thanks again for all your help!
-Dave

recspecs81, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 01:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.kennyscajuncorn.com/images/nervous.gif

am0n, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 02:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) tohms19
b) Tomas
c) 16
d) male
e) Illinois


1) RJD2 - The Third Hand; T.I. - King: Lupe Fiasco - Food and Liquor

2) In complete honesty, I did not know what rockism when I first read the question, and most of what I know now is based off of the previous posts. However, I will do a little research on my own to find out for myself what it means. My first impressions, at least, were that much like feminism and racism, rockism is concerned with the superiority or inferiority of rock music (or maybe pop culture in general (?)). I know this is a really obvious and vague response, but its based on my first impressions of the word itself.
3) http://www.newcenter.com/tastefest/2006/media/photos/MOTORCITY_CASINO_MAIN_STAGE/CAT%20POWER%20&%20THE%20MEMPHIS%20RHYTHM%20BAND.jpg

4) Frankly, I have never heard of Deerhoof, but I am downloading some of their stuff right now. However, I have heard a fair amount of Sufjan Stevens. In particular, the album Illinois, which I was intrigued by, it being my home state. Unfortunately, I feel that his music is a bit too mellow for me and not enough indie (I'm not sure that came out right). I did really like Chicago and To Be Alone with you (I don't think thats on the Illinois album, but I heard it on my friend's ipod). Both songs sound a lot like the Headlights, an indie band from Illinois (my hometown actually), which I really like.

5) One, please

tohms19, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 03:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

(recspecs was taken)

respec isn't taken it's given

jergincito, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 09:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

who else do you like, dthemora?

Of course you Lingbert! Very much! :)

hmmm... and jergincito... eee... and am0n who looks terrified today ... :)

dthemora, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 09:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Tommohalby
b) Tom
c) 20
d) Male
e) Australia


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
One Love - Your Disco will eat you
The 12th Man Boned
Modest Mouse - We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Didn't have a clue but after a quick google define i came up with this: Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s. Now due to not being longer than 8 sentences i have to expand. Seems like it is about how some bands are not as authentic as others. this is due to mostly to the use of technology. back in the good old times of music musican's got down and dirty with their music and composed, made and recorded every note themselves. Now a days they can be using a keyboard to play drums if they have to as well as getting others to fill in the gaps or even make the whole song up for them completely. I think this is happening most in the pop culture where now a days its not about the true music but rather how many sales you can make and how much profit. Music used to be about the expression of the artist but now its all commericialised and may even have items put in as advertisement (both in video and audio form) to get that extra kick of moula. Its a sad world. well enough rambling that is what i thought off the top of my head.... any good?

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.magnetreps.com/img/portfolio/310_m.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
To be totally honest i'm not too familiar with deerhoof so i can't really make a decision, but on that note i will say Surfan Stevens :p
anyways if need me to get some of their music and compare to give me a chance at an invite. i could give it a go just holler out.

5) How many invites do you require? Just one Please

tommohalby, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 11:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Tommohalby
b) Tom
c) 20
d) Male
e) Australia


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
One Love - Your Disco will eat you
The 12th Man Boned
Modest Mouse - We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Didn't have a clue but after a quick google define i came up with this: Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s. Now due to not being longer than 8 sentences i have to expand. Seems like it is about how some bands are not as authentic as others. this is due to mostly to the use of technology. back in the good old times of music musican's got down and dirty with their music and composed, made and recorded every note themselves. Now a days they can be using a keyboard to play drums if they have to as well as getting others to fill in the gaps or even make the whole song up for them completely. I think this is happening most in the pop culture where now a days its not about the true music but rather how many sales you can make and how much profit. Music used to be about the expression of the artist but now its all commericialised and may even have items put in as advertisement (both in video and audio form) to get that extra kick of moula. Its a sad world. well enough rambling that is what i thought off the top of my head.... any good?

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.magnetreps.com/img/portfolio/310_m.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
To be totally honest i'm not too familiar with deerhoof so i can't really make a decision, but on that note i will say Surfan Stevens :p
anyways if need me to get some of their music and compare to give me a chance at an invite. i could give it a go just holler out.

5) How many invites do you require? Just one Please

tommohalby, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 11:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hi hope everything will clear up for you admin, maybe my gmail is having some problems who knows? Kinda funny this :)

regards tobb3

tobb3, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 13:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

hey, i got it to work after all!

recspecs, Tuesday, 27 March 2007 16:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Admin... admin... admin... my dear admin... :)

dthemora, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 06:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

admin,
The email address dthemora@yahoo.com was not found in the database.

I'm not in, am I? :)

Well, whoever has and wants to give me an invite, you know my mail now.. ;)
I promise I'll be nice.. :)
Thank you.. :)

dthemora, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 07:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

you are a special one, dthemora.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 08:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm casual but thank you.. :)
Just out of curiocity, is anyone of you oink admin or this is just a well fixed farce? :)

dthemora, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 08:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

The answers to all your questions...

Px2, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 13:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

You just created some more questions to me Px2..
Nice tan, where did you get it?

dthemora, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 13:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

THE SUN, DIPSHIT.

Px2 on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:11 PM (15 seconds ago)




Oh man I love this thread.

nickalicious, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 20:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

THE SUN, DIPSHIT.

oh, right, the sun.. How stupid of me..
I have one more question..
What kind of lubricant do you use?

dthemora, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 20:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

someone please ban Px2.

How are people supposed to get Oink invites with trolls hanging around?

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 28 March 2007 20:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Haha, nice, that last post wasn't me. I don't particularly feel like calling dthemora a dipshit. Neither am I a transvestite with a flaccid, wildly gyrating penis.

But I am gay. And I prefer astroglide.

Mr. Grady. You WERE the caretaker. You, uh, chopped your wife and daughters into little bits. And then you blew your brains out. Why don't you ban me?

Px2, Thursday, 29 March 2007 03:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha nicka.

g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 29 March 2007 05:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Come on, you posted that flash video claiming that it will answer all my questions..
The only questions that answers are these I already asked..


Seriously, you're 18, right? Have you ever thought to become an actor? There is a lot of motion in your words..

Grady, if you allow me, I have a correction to make to your question:
How are people supposed to get Oink invites with trolls hanging around ?

:) :) :)

dthemora, Thursday, 29 March 2007 10:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

I totally agree with dthemora :) :P

tobb3, Thursday, 29 March 2007 11:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

I gotcha back but ya best to watch ya front cuz it's the nickas who front, they be pullin' stunts.

(who's an actor?)

Px2, Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

I got my invite very quickly here. Thanks Oink Admins!

Confounded, Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

nicka please

▒█▄█ ▄▄ ▒█▄█, Thursday, 29 March 2007 12:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

well I guess some of us aren't as lucky as you then :P :) but it's woth the wait.

tobb3, Thursday, 29 March 2007 13:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

@Px2 You are the actor or you should think about it ;)

Oink Administrator (sanskrit) wrote: Confounded = Rejected

Confounded wrote: I got my invite very quickly here. Thanks Oink Admins!


Really, Confounded? That's great! :)

Does anyone in here telling the truth or you consider that as bad luck or something? :)

dthemora, Thursday, 29 March 2007 13:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

thank you for the chillingly accurate compliment

unfortunately, it's a rather difficult career to break into...

Px2, Thursday, 29 March 2007 13:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

@Px2
Yeah, I guess so.. But it's always worths a try.. ;)

dthemora, Thursday, 29 March 2007 14:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Really, Confounded? That's great! :)

Does anyone in here telling the truth or you consider that as bad luck or something? :)


I got rejected the first time, but I didn't give up. Please don't call me a liar.

Confounded, Thursday, 29 March 2007 14:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok Confounded.. :) :) :)

dthemora, Thursday, 29 March 2007 16:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Who cares about an invite? I want CAT POWER!!
rraawwrrr!
mmrrroooowwwwrrrrrr!
Wooof!
Phew!

mtbmed, Thursday, 29 March 2007 18:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Who cares about an invite? I want CAT POWER!!
rraawwrrr!
mmrrroooowwwwrrrrrr!
Wooof!
Phew!

Let me show you the path..
You'll go at the end of that thread:
path
There you'll find mange.. Take a cold shower together.. :)

dthemora, Thursday, 29 March 2007 18:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

:) but it's woth the wait.


very very true!

g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 29 March 2007 18:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Take a cold shower together.. :)

you are just the sweetest

Confounded, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

@dthemora
Beyonce = Beauty as long as silent. She speaks and the truth is known.
Chan = purrrrrrr has talent and ability far beyond that of just the pretty face.
But other than that I am a lecher and could care less :-) I'd rather shower with both of them :-o

mtbmed, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'd rather shower with both of them :-o


You're gonna die of your own reek man! :)

dthemora, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) dom_indie85
b) dominik
c) 22
d) male
e) germany

1. Bright Eyes - Cassadaga, The Brother Kite - Waiting For The Time To Be Right, Laura Veirs- Saltbreakers
2. It is the plural of rock, which is classic American music. or so?
3. http://panther1.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/1006427/442971.jpg
4. Sufjan Stevens! i love "For the Widows in Paradise, for the Fatherless in Ypsilanti" its my favourite track!

invite me please!!!

dom_indie, Thursday, 29 March 2007 22:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sure!!!

!!!

!!!

!!!

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 29 March 2007 23:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) electrickidz
b)adam
c)27
d)male
e) columbus, ohio

1. Feist "The Reminder" Low" Drums and Guns " Air "Pocket Symphony"

2. Rockism originated in the 70's/80's as an ideaology that a traditional rock set-up ( drums, bass, guitar, vocals) is the only truly authentic form of rock. Technology and help from any of its intrumental offspring are frowned upon. Rockism seemed to be a way to claim and protect the organic quality of music: humans and their intsrumetns. During that era, technology was being introduced that, even though it may have been exciting at the time for some of our greatest musicians, has proven to be detrimental to our current state of music. Of course, some have found ways of possibly bending technology to fit into "rockism". Sadly, most haven't. It reminds me of Lars Von Trier's Dogma 95 ideaology which tried through very strict guidelines to keep film "real". I think that Rockism probably came out of a very basic need to keep music sacred. However, as Lou Reed can attest, Metal music may often benefit.

3. http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a201/mydogespresso/catpower.jpg

. It is maybe difficult to compare Sufjan and Deerhoof because subjectively, I don't see any real comparison. Regarding who is a better artist, well, that is subjective as well. Deerhoof definitely pushes the boundaries, but I think that in time, things with staying power are the ones termed "important" which signifies the collective zeitgeist's opinion that said artist was "better". Within those lines, Im going with Sufjan. What started out as an interesting idea ( records about states) has turned into some very satisfying output. By following constraints, I think he was able to open himself up more. This is very much like what the serialist composers did in the 50's/60's. I am interested in where he is headed, Deerhoof, not so much

5. one invite, please




thanks guys!!!!

electrickidz, Friday, 30 March 2007 00:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

U R Welcome!!!

!!!

!!!

!!!

g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 30 March 2007 00:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

By the power of Oink, I have learned that dthemora has been sticking her fingers into numerous other Oink pies.

Example of greediness #1
Example of greediness #2

Greed is the opposite of Oink, but dora is a v.v. pretty name, so I shall let it slide. Anyone else, though, BANNED.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 30 March 2007 01:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Best Answer - Chosen By Voters

What is an oink invitation?

2 Votes 67%

am0n, Friday, 30 March 2007 01:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

I agree, Dora is a very pretty name :)

tohms19, Friday, 30 March 2007 03:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

@admin
That's the power of google :) :)
You didn't tell me to wait.. You were just pulling my leg ;)

Anyway, do you really like Dora? I don't.. And it's not my exact name.. Dora Is too short to be greek.. :)
Theodora is my name.. See, it can be even worst.. :)

Hi tohms! ;)

dthemora, Friday, 30 March 2007 05:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

o.o greece, i was born in Bulgaria, right north of Greece :)

tohms19, Friday, 30 March 2007 05:37 (ten years ago) Permalink


a) requested username: palmofyoureye
b) first name (no surnames): Allison
c) age: 18
d) gender: female
e) geographic location: chicago, illinois, united states, world, universe


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week: The Who - Quadrophenia, Bikini Kill - Pussy Whipped, The Broken West - I Can't Go On, I'll Go On

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum): I will answer this question with another question: What isn't rockism?

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/09/20/arts/20cat_CA0.190.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum): Deerhoof: Cute, but absurdly annoying after a while. Same goes for the whole broken-English thing that Satomi's got going on. Sufjan: Intertwines super-religious beliefs into his songs, yet I still tolerate and enjoy them, and him, immensely. And that's saying a lot.

5) How many invites do you require? One if you please. thestarposition@yahoo.com

palmofyoureye, Friday, 30 March 2007 08:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Greed is the opposite of Oink" hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Pashmina, Friday, 30 March 2007 09:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum): I will answer this question with another question: What isn't rockism?

OH SHIT

Confounded, Friday, 30 March 2007 12:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Theodora is my name.. See, it can be even worst.. :)

dthemora on Friday, March 30, 2007 1:15 AM (8 hours ago)


http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/9624/dancingalienld7.gif

am0n, Friday, 30 March 2007 13:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) mrosenberg42
b) Mike
c) 31
d) male
e) Boise, ID

1) Minor Threat complete Discography; Built to Spill Keep it like a secret; Digable Planets Blowout Comb
2) Rockism is and will be interprted in many different ways. This is supposed to be much longer but what are we in f*&^%$ school this is all you get. Rockism to me is a way of life.
3) http://www.damnfunnypictures.com/html/Sex-Theme-Park.html
4) Never heard of either
5) One

mrosenberg42, Saturday, 31 March 2007 04:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

So it's been eleven days since I got "accepted" and still no mail... guess this is just a well executed joke then :/
Oh well, it was worth the try :D Nice job with the whole thing guys.

Peace

Erty, Saturday, 31 March 2007 14:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

Peace

Confounded, Saturday, 31 March 2007 15:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

^__^ V

am0n, Saturday, 31 March 2007 19:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Erty-

I want you to know, I'm getting to the bottom of your problem.

Check back soon.

-Oink Admin

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 1 April 2007 03:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) foxxycloud
b)Dustin
c)21
d)male
e)Chicago, IL

1.) Was on vacation for a while, three uploads were the Klaxons, Myths ...., a prerelease of Neon Bible, and Maximo Park's, Our Earthly Pleasures
2) Rockism is a popularized British music and pop culture commentary on the authenticity of music culture. Popular during the late 60's and 70's, rockism was a concept of rock and pop music structure, instrumentation, and content. Electronic based music as well as instrumentation that was outside of the guitar/bass/drum/vocal concept was felt to be unauthentic. Rocksim is just a vessal of critical analysis, supposing that there is a "right" and a "wrong" way to make rock music. Its pretty much absolute bullshit (I guess i should put bollocks).
3)www.artloversnewyork.com/.../cat_power__2.jpg
4) Tough one. Both are great live and in the studio. My vote is for Sufjan, mainly because of how unbelievable Illinois was. A masterpeice of experimental folk and Americana. "Friend Opportunity" is incredible though.
5)2-3

Foxxycloud, Sunday, 1 April 2007 22:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) grandepois
b) Mike
c) 17
d) Male
e) California, USA


1) Damiera - M(Us)Ic, A Hawk and a Hacksaw - Darkness at Noon, Dosh - The Lost Lake

2) Rockism, to me, is the correct way of looking at music and measuring the talent of an artist. Rockism is originality and creativity. It's the state of mind that inspires the artists who strive to create their own undefined sound. Unlike the mainstream bands such as Avenged Sevenfold or Atreyu, artists like Beirut or Andrew Bird go for a sound that hasn't been regurgitated over and over again by the same bands with different haircuts. One point of rockism that I do object with is that use of electric instruments fail to enhance music and are unable to convey any true passion the performer has for the music they play. I believe that electronics are valid tools for musical expression when used correctly. Rockism is the defining factor of a band's attitude toward their livelihood.

3) I refuse to take part in this fad held by the common forum junkie. If you want to refuse me access based strictly upon this refusal, well you're entitled to that and I'll accept the rejection, but analyze it for a minute.

4) It's hard to say who is better when comparing Deerhoof and Sufjan Stevens because their styles are completely different. It's almost like asking someone if The Locust or Circa Survive is better. In Deerhoof you have the happy, almost 80's trend sound going on, but with Sufjan Stevens the folk aspect of his music is stronger than anything else. Also in Deerhoof the voice is shrill and almost unpleasant to listen to while Sufjan Stevens's voice is docile and pleasing. Even as I sit here contrasting the two artists, searching for which is better, I'm at a loss. I can easily say who I enjoy listening to more, but that holds no measure to who is more talented. They are both talented in different ways and neither is better or worse.
5) One

grandepois, Sunday, 1 April 2007 22:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: crabcigar; or something trendy sounding that everyone else on here seems to aim for. But most certainly crabcigar.
b) first name (no surnames): Alyssa
c) age: 17
d) gender: Female
e) geographic location: San Francisco, California. It’s not so National Geographic-photography-worthy, unless you have some weird photo fetish of bums fondling your ankles or something on the trolleys.

1)
a) Japanther - Dump the Body in Rikki Lake
b) Horse Head - Birds and Bees
c) Tap Tap - Lanzafame

2) Rockism is what we all make it out to be. It varies from person to person; Person A may say, "Well, I like Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti but I certainly do not like System of a Down." Person B is baffled and retorts, "What kind of name is Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti?! I can't believe you think you listen to good music, let me guess, is this part of your Disney Soundtrack? I‘m not hyphy and down with this Ariel the mermaid and ‘Under the Sea‘ shit." Person A stands there and thinks for a moment whether or not to beat the shit out of Person B, but instead chuckles and replies "My friend, I'm afraid you do not understand the components of rockism. You see, you listen to Panic! At the Disco. This is just like Fall! Out! Boy! But! With! Even! More! Shitty! Sounding! Band! Members! Who! All! Probably! Appeal! Just! To! 16! Year! Old! Girls! And! This!! Annoying! Exclaimation! Mark! With! No! Point! At! All!!!!!!!! Sometimes! You! Can‘t Tell! If! Panic! Fans! Are! Male! Or! Female! Because! They! All! Look! The! Same! With! Their! Haircuts!" Person B kicks Person A in the balls for being an elitist asshole [note how it is labeled Person “A” for “asshole“, and Person “B“ is probably “bisexual“ because he/she goes both ways and listens to Panic! At the Disco]. After being hit in the balls, Person A summons one of his Pokemons from his damaged balls and it damages Person B +156 HP/156. KO’d!


3) http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9549/happppybu1.png
She hardly ever smiles like this, she‘s always half-smiling…poor Chan. But hey, you can’t pass up a face like that.

4) Oh “deer”, what a tough decision.

Deerhoof attempted something different and won me over. With Sufjan, it’s the same thing repetitively with horns, upbeat synthesizers, ode to Steven Reich and minimalism and such to me. I lost interest with Sufjan after Illinois was released; it did not contain the quality and personal musicianship he created for Michigan and Seven Swans. The songs sounded the same, but were not as captivating. So really, if I had to say which artist was better, I’d go with Deerhoof because of their judicious metamorphose and improvement upon pleasing my oxymoronic tastes of contrasting weeping guitars with gentle childlike voices. Going from “aww bunny bunny cutie bunny” to “fucking rabbit eating my entrails while ripping out my teeth” provided me with an insight of the improvement upon musicianship. From adorable, panda-cuddly vocals, Deerhoof transformed themselves to playing a tragic-sounding lament played at the funeral of a road kill rabbit.

5) 1

crabcigar, Sunday, 1 April 2007 22:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Crabcigar,

We at Oink sense something special here. Rather than simply gift you with a single invite we may have grander designs for you. To wit, you might be the sort of material we're looking for as a Probationary Oink Administrator.

We will update you at this location after all administrators confer.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 2 April 2007 01:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh dear God, must you be serious?! The irony, it's April Fool's Day! I don't know what to believe.


But even if you are kidding, what an honor it is to have this joke played upon me!

crabcigar, Monday, 2 April 2007 02:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

crabcigar, we're not fucking kidding

Lingbert, Monday, 2 April 2007 02:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

or are we?

Lingbert, Monday, 2 April 2007 02:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

crabcigar, please ignore trolls like Lingbert.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 2 April 2007 02:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

It really doesn't make a difference what day it is here.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 2 April 2007 02:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

For a moment I thought the situation was 'popeless'.

crabcigar, Monday, 2 April 2007 02:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

No one here gets that joke.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 2 April 2007 02:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

I thought it was pretty clever, seeing as how you used the vatican smoke as a picture up there.

grandepois, Monday, 2 April 2007 02:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Aww, I apologize for that.

I couldn't help myself after seeing the Vatican decision smoke picture and knowing that tomorrow is the 3 year death anniversary of John Paul II.

crabcigar, Monday, 2 April 2007 05:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

No need to apologize, crabcigar. April Fool!

Oink Administrator, Monday, 2 April 2007 06:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Does anyone else think Ratzinger looks like Emperor Palpatine?

Px2, Monday, 2 April 2007 08:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

u suk

Confounded, Monday, 2 April 2007 12:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

heartily

Confounded, Monday, 2 April 2007 12:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Confounded OTM.

g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 2 April 2007 19:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

cinema obscura - secret cinema torrent site

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i am trying to access the toorent site - cinema obscura, and cannot load the page, am in the uk, a mate sent me a link but it doesnt work, cannot load the page with safari or firefox, have tried to link in from a million places and the site will not load, can anyone help or advise. its a very very good site thanks

-- zop, Thursday, 29 March 2007 01:47 (5 days ago)
It went off-the-air and/or super private awhile back. Haven't run across an equivalent.

-- Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 March 2007 20:10 (4 days ago)
.. my friend linked on from the black cats board, very recently, its now called cinema obscura.. its weid it wont even connect to the server, does anyone know how i can get an invite?

-- zop, Thursday, 29 March 2007 23:00 (4 days ago)

Post a response

That one guy that quit, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 09:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hi everybody, so hows the problem solving going? It's been a while now:(

tobb3, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 17:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

hey tobb, how are you?

we missed you around here!

:) :) :)

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 19:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

hehe been away for a while..still no piggie, oink, for though :(

tobb3, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 22:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

hey tobb, you're back! where did you go?

i got an oink invite, did you get one yet?

recspecs, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 22:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

yepp I'm back, I was very busy studying lots of important exams.. no haven't got mine yet:( but I'm waiting patiently or at least I'm trying to:P

tobb3, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 22:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

hi tobb3!!! good to see you back on the board!

what exams were you studying for? I just spent a week studying for my maths and language finals. i had lots of guess papers to help me out.

i should be getting my Oink invite this week, (fingers crossed) let me know if you get yours.

:) :) :)

Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 22:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Had a biology test and a Marine Ecology test..pretty intense a lot to learn but it's interesting:)

tobb3, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

how is Marine Ecology different from Marine Biology?

i am v v interested.

;-)

Anthony Michael Samson, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well I'm not Exactly sure but maybe it's like more concerned around how humans effect the environment in the sea and the way the species effect eachother bla bla..but I think they are more or less the same thing just two different names:P

tobb3, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

so you had to take two different exams in two different classes on the exact same thing? no wonder you needs some Oink invites.

:P :P :P

g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha not exaclty my biology test was about fysiology and the marine ecology was about worms and stuff from the baltic sea..

tobb3, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 23:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

worms from the baltic sea?!? that sounds rad!!!!!!!!!!!!

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 00:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobbbbbb?

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 05:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) saturnalia
b) cameron
c) 26
d) male
e) australia


1) The Avalanches - El Producto, BT - This Binary Universe, Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero

2) What is rockism?
Rockism is the very definition of rock - the distilled essence, including the blood sweat and tears - made up by some nerdy guy trying to explain an artistic movement. Modern authentic rockism can be found but are quite rare these days, perhaps it was once easier to be inspired, original and raw.

3) http://www.ellenforney.com/images2/CatPowerLG.gif

4) Unfortunately I have no idea - however I am willing to find out given time. (dont feel like ripping some txt i have no idea about).

5) 1 pls.

saturnalia, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 12:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Modern authentic rockism can be found but are quite rare these days

TRU

Confounded, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 13:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

yes worms, weed, ne that kinds of stuff and how they effect eachother and the environment sorrounding them:)

tobb3, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 16:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

saturnalia = Rejected. (please re-apply in 90 days following the eight sentances guideline)

tobb = you're all set now, right?

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 18:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

emm no I'm not:( (soon I don't know if I should laugh or cry:P)

tobb3, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 19:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobb = try re-booting and see if that does the trick.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 21:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here's my application. Thanks!
a) FeuerDrache
b) James
c) 17
d) M
e) Minneapolis, MN


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Bleach - Nirvana;
From the Muddy Banks of the Wishkah - Nirvana;
Nirvana (2002) - Nirvana (I just got their discography last weekend)


2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Rockism, much like literature's archetypal (or 'new' as it is also known) is the analysis and judgement of a piece of music by its parts. Rockism's states, mainly, that there was, at some point in time, a golden age of music. Music's golden age, the ideals of rockism state, was the era in which all songs were written by performers, where all bands had the same make-up (namely a guitar player, a bass-ist and a drummer), and where a song's appeal to the masses made no difference to a record company; music was best, a rockist would argue, when performers focused on producing albums with meaning, and not on hitting #1 with a great single. One who has lived through (or at least listened to) the music of the 50's and 60's might readily point out that the rockist 'paradise' never truly existed; in this sense rockism strives for an unseen and unachievable ideal. The critics of rockism state that a rockist listener loses sight of a song, as a whole, by focusing on its production, and the motives behind the music. (Funnily, rockism doesn't have too many proponents, as its original use and its current connotations were and still are derogatory.) Rockism is not without merit: when computers and teams of recording company 'technicians' can create chart-toppers, the honest garage band has no hope of becoming mainstream. In conclusion, though, rockism is nothing but an idea of a past time. Rock no longer makes the world turn, and 'rockists' are the music lovers who fail to see the new world order. Rockism and its practitioners are audiophiles who cannot let go of the past. Rockists would do better to cherish their heritage than to look down on the current generation of musicians.


3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://scenestars.net/gallery/albums/ACL%20Taping/normal_cat.jpg


4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Sufjan Stevens.
I'd yet to hear a decent sounding popular song in 5/4 (but that might have been due to my musical immaturity) until 'Come on Feel the Illinoise'. I like the musicality of their music (which points to another shortcoming of rockism: musicians come in all sorts of packages and flavors). I'm not quite sure what instrumentation they use, but it seems as if there's brass in some of their songs, a fact that I find quite cool - I'm in my school's drumline. To better respond to this question I listened to a few Stevens songs, and, after having finished listening to them, I think that the variety in their music is remarkable: I can't think of another band with such a wide range of sounds (maybe ozomatli ? ). Deerhoof reminded me of Ladytron, a bit. I think they doesn't appeal to my tastes, the vocals Deerhoof uses; the music that they play is soothing (when it ought to be) and their use of contrast keeps their music interesting.


5) How many invites do you require?

2 (a buddy of mine loves Brit Rock more than you could ever imagine; his birthday is 4/4 and I haven't gotten him anything else)

merzhin, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 21:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

[im][Removed Illegal Link]

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

ironic, that

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

admin lol WHAT? still don't have an invite and rebooting won't give me one either:P haha..this must be the biggest prank I have ever seen..thx for keeing me busy anyways:D

/tobb3

tobb3, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 22:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Tobb3, this is not a prank, it's just that we paid these programmers in the UK to recode our invite request system. We're out a little over $1,000 for the project and now functionality is worse than it was before. Don't worry, we're still fighting it out with them. Please be patient for your acceptance e-mail.

In other news, some of my print writing for Wired just went up onto their online archive.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 4 April 2007 23:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

You are the digital prophet I have long been seeking.

Confounded, Thursday, 5 April 2007 00:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username - phanb
b) first name - Binh
c) age - 28
d) gender - male
e) geographic location - 49.225 N, 123.106 W (Vancouver, BC, Canada) lol

1) Bright Eyes - Cassadaga
The Chemical Brothers - Live At The Social Volume 1
Hot Chip - The Warning

2) Rockism is an ideology used to classify and authenticate musical artists on a scale of how rockerish they are. With the evolution of music and blending of styles, there is no longer a need to classify artists as belonging to one genre. Therefore such artists as K-Os, Black Eyed Peas, Postal Service & The Klaxons cross multiple genres and therefore the idea that these artists could be held to one genre is insane. There should be a new term called Awesomism, there by fans and critics can just decide whether a band or artist is Awesome or not. There no longer is a need to classify musical artists in categories, because the musical community has evolved since '70s or early '80s, which was when the term was created. We are supposed to listen and judge by our own criteria, not other's. How silly would it be to have an R&Bism or Drum'n'Bassism? I will never be a judge of someone's level of rockism.

3) http://static.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/1006427/27489.jpg

4) Depends on my mood... If I'm lounging around my house on a Sunday, I'm all for Surfjan Stevens 8/10 times, but if I'm ready to roll out on a Friday night it's usually Deerhoof... I don't see why I'd have to choose which is better... which would I rather listen to? which would I rather see perform right now? which would win in a fight? (Deerhoof haha) or which would I stalk? haha those would seem to be better questions to ask...

5) I'd only require 1 invite for myself, because I'm quite certain I would share enough to be granted invites...

Thanks

ph✧✧✧@te✧✧✧.n✧✧

phanb, Thursday, 5 April 2007 01:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hehe ok sry for my attack but got kinda frustrated, sry to hear that you're having so much trouble:( well well gotta see the new lost episode. hear ya later guys:D Happy easter holiday btw:D

tobb3, Thursday, 5 April 2007 15:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobb - what do you think the smokemonster really is?????

g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 5 April 2007 18:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

This thread = reason internets were invented.

Pye Poudre, Thursday, 5 April 2007 21:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

You're still banned.

(flattery gets you nowhere).

Oink Administrator, Friday, 6 April 2007 01:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have NOO clue...It kinda annoys too much sci-fi. But i guess it could be something that the scientists that were there from the begining invented..just love this show cause you really don't understand anything:D

tobb3, Friday, 6 April 2007 09:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

YOU DON'T NEED LUBE WHEN YOU HAVE DIARRHEA

Px2, Friday, 6 April 2007 21:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

hello OiNK!

crabcigar, Friday, 6 April 2007 23:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hi Crabcigar!

Oink Administrator, Friday, 6 April 2007 23:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

how is the deciding coming along? :)


take care.

crabcigar, Saturday, 7 April 2007 01:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh, its going allright.

How have things been in your neck of the woods?

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 7 April 2007 02:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

quite well, although i am suffering from the heat here. it almost reached 90 degrees today.

crabcigar, Saturday, 7 April 2007 02:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Got my invite today! Thanks!

chaki, Saturday, 7 April 2007 03:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

:):) That's great news chaki! Welcome to our community! :):)

90 degrees is a bummer, crabcigar. Heat makes me sweat and feel icky, which is no fun at all. So what else is going on in your life? Me, I'm just trying to keep things fresh and interesting, you know?

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 7 April 2007 05:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://images.lamer.net/gay-smiley.gif

am0n, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

fresh and interesting? like bread? a fresh loaf of bread. with condiments and lettuce and meats and such, and occasionally a squid tentacle to make things interesting. the sandwich itself wouldn't be so fresh after a few days. so, i think i will fix myself a sandwich after i post this. thank you for the indirect suggestion!

as for what's going on in my life, i have spring vacation for a week. whoo!

crabcigar, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

got any rockin' spring break plans?

also, if you're into tentacles, you need to check out some Standard Practice Papers

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

oops. Standard Practice Papers

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 7 April 2007 06:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username
kellerassel999
b) first name (no surnames)
Hans
c) age
22
d) gender
male
e) geographic location
bavaria


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
Ladytron - Softcore Jukebox [320kbps]
BRMC - Baby 81 [192kbps]
Of Montreal - Aldhils Arboretum [320kbps]

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
I don't know, how to explain. Everyone can read it in Wikipedia, but my english knowledge would not satisfy you guys...

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
Well i don't like Cat Power at all... so no fav. picture!

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Well i'd prefer Sufjan Stevens of course. His music clearly comes with more harmony and the vocal and instrumental parts are better composed together. Another thing i really enjoyed was the funny 5cd Christmas Collection by Sufjan Stevens. Oh dudes my English is to bad, i hope one can at least understand some of my sentences and how they where ment.

5) How many invites do you require?
1

Would be very glad about an Invite...

kellerassel999, Saturday, 7 April 2007 10:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
Well i don't like Cat Power at all... so no fav. picture!


Does your English knowledge understand "GO FAR AWAY FROM HERE!"????

Confounded, Sunday, 8 April 2007 00:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Admin, I'm not sure what I enjoyed better: a tentacle suggestively placed inside a young woman's mouth or a burly Chad Kroeger with a microphone placed suggestively by his mouth.


As for Spring Break plans, my parents decided to take me fishing and boating in beautiful Lake Tahoe. :)

crabcigar, Sunday, 8 April 2007 02:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

crabcigar, please post pics of what you catch!

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 8 April 2007 02:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here it goes.

a) ender112485
b) Jesse
c) 21
d) Male
e) South Korea


1) LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
Tiger Bear Wolf - Self Titled
Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation

2) Rockism is a method for pasty white old unadventurous disinterested pathetic men to raise their crap pop music over everyone else's. These people are also known as the bastard children of Lester Bangs. Anyone concerned with authenticity over the actual music should check their ego and pick up a Justin Timberlake album immediately (don't lie - everyone is already out of the closet about "My Love." It's okay to admit it). As much as the "authentic" rock music has it's place, so does experimentation and collaboration. If you took that aspect out of music you'd have nothing except the Arctic Monkeys, and I think we can all agree that it is time for them to go away. Seriously.

For more information see also Rolling Stone magazine and/or Greil Marcus.

3) http://www.hi.is/~peturv/catpower.jpg

4) Deerhoof is much better than Sufjan. I mean, Sufjan may have Casimir Pulaski Day, but how can you beat the bass groove on Believe E.S.P. You just can't. And Songs for Christmas?? Okay, the sensitive cutesy Christian thing was cool and different at first but once you record a Christmas Album you might as well be Wings. And besides, if Satomi Matsuzaki were a man and Sufjan were a dog... Well I think we'd all know what would happen then. So Deerhoof clearly comes out on top.

5) 1 please.

ender112485@gmail

Thanks!!

ender112485, Sunday, 8 April 2007 11:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here it goes.

a) ender112485
b) Jesse
c) 21
d) Male
e) South Korea


1) LCD Soundsystem - Sound of Silver
Tiger Bear Wolf - Self Titled
Richard Hell and the Voidoids - Blank Generation

2) Rockism is a method for pasty white old unadventurous disinterested pathetic men to raise their crap pop music over everyone else's. These people are also known as the bastard children of Lester Bangs. Anyone concerned with authenticity over the actual music should check their ego and pick up a Justin Timberlake album immediately (don't lie - everyone is already out of the closet about "My Love." It's okay to admit it). As much as the "authentic" rock music has it's place, so does experimentation and collaboration. If you took that aspect out of music you'd have nothing except the Arctic Monkeys, and I think we can all agree that it is time for them to go away. Seriously.

For more information see also Rolling Stone magazine and/or Greil Marcus.

3) http://www.hi.is/~peturv/catpower.jpg

4) Deerhoof is much better than Sufjan. I mean, Sufjan may have Casimir Pulaski Day, but how can you beat the bass groove on Believe E.S.P. You just can't. And Songs for Christmas?? Okay, the sensitive cutesy Christian thing was cool and different at first but once you record a Christmas Album you might as well be Wings. And besides, if Satomi Matsuzaki were a man and Sufjan were a dog... Well I think we'd all know what would happen then. So Deerhoof clearly comes out on top.

5) 1 please.

ender112485@gmail

Thanks!!

ender112485, Sunday, 8 April 2007 11:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

dude, nice! you're guna be gettin an invite in like 10 secs i bet 100 dollars!

chaki, Sunday, 8 April 2007 13:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) xryanwk
b) Ryan
c) 19
d) male
e) Oklahoma!


1) Clouds - Legendary Demo [320 kbps], MGR - Nova Lux [192kbps], Mare - Mare [256kbps]

2) Rockism, to my understanding, is basically when one's opinion clashes with another's concerning a form of popular music. What I mean by this is one not understanding what exactly it is that makes it appeal to the listeners. One disagreeing with the way that a specific music sounds completely because of a certain element, such as synthesizers or the style of vocals, that is present in the music is another way of looking at it. An example would be myself disliking the majority of the popular music that is played on the radio today for it's lack of talent, and mainly - originality!
What rockism is really about is making good music. Popular artists who used to be highly creative and original are becoming more and more the same not only in sound, but in appearance. It's as if what really made an artist original is being thrown away (or sold..) just to fit in and be able to compete with the gimmick bands that are everywhere today. If we could just get back to the music and what it is that makes music GOOD rather than what their image is, what record label they're signed to, or who's in the band, then perhaps music could go back to being genuinely good.

3) http://panther1.last.fm/proposedimages/original/6/1006427/438848.jpg

4) I would definitely have to say Sufjan Stevens. Mainly because I really haven't heard much Deerhoof. But regardless, Sufjan Stevens is a great artist and one of my favorites. Sufjan Stevens is one of those artists that's just so refreshing because of the fact that there's no other music that is quite like it. Not only is Sufjan Stevens an amazing song writer, but also a great musician. I love the fact that he actually plays a variety of instruments that are heard on his albums. Lastly, I really enjoy the blending of all the different styles in his music. Drawing influence from jazz, folk, and indie, he does an amazing job of creating his own unique sound that is unlike any other.

5) One

xrya✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

xryanwk, Sunday, 8 April 2007 20:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Beef14
b) Ben
c) 16
d) Male
e) The Pacific NorthWest


1) Neon Bible-Arcade Fire
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea-Neutral Milk Hotel
We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank-Modest Mouse

2) Rockism is a the idea that not all popular rock music is Authentic to it's genre. Some people believe that after the discovery of rock and roll many have veered away from rock's roots. Rockism direct criticism towards any band that uses synthesized instruments. Rockism looks down upon any use of non-authentic sounds used in rock sounds. Most people who believe in Rockism like only the original band set up of a rhythm guitar/vocalist a lead guitarist a bass player and a drummer. They also think that at one time rock was perfected, and that one should stay on their course and not verge from it at all. Rockism thinks that instead of there being many definitions of rock that there is only one true elite sound. Kind of like how the Nazi's believed in an Aryan Race.

3) http://www.worlds-fair.net/mail/images/IMG_1379catpower.JPG

4) Well I do enjoy the music of both, but in my opinion I like Sufjan Stevens better these days. I used to really like Deerhoof and went to many of their shows, but I really didn't like like their last two albums(Runners Four and Friend Opportunity.) Deerhoof has gone downhill while Sufjan Stevens has remained constant, plus I really like what he's doing with the whole united-states concept albums. They are both different styles though and it's kinda hard to compare, but eventhough Milk-man was really good, I'm gonna have to go with Sufjan.

5) just one for myself

B33f, Monday, 9 April 2007 08:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Beef14
b) Ben
c) 16
d) Male
e) The Pacific NorthWest


1) Neon Bible-Arcade Fire
In the Aeroplane Over the Sea-Neutral Milk Hotel
We Were Dead Before the Ship Even Sank-Modest Mouse

2) Rockism is a the idea that not all popular rock music is Authentic to it's genre. Some people believe that after the discovery of rock and roll many have veered away from rock's roots. Rockism direct criticism towards any band that uses synthesized instruments. Rockism looks down upon any use of non-authentic sounds used in rock sounds. Most people who believe in Rockism like only the original band set up of a rhythm guitar/vocalist a lead guitarist a bass player and a drummer. They also think that at one time rock was perfected, and that one should stay on their course and not verge from it at all. Rockism thinks that instead of there being many definitions of rock that there is only one true elite sound. Kind of like how the Nazi's believed in an Aryan Race.

3) http://www.worlds-fair.net/mail/images/IMG_1379catpower.JPG

4) Well I do enjoy the music of both, but in my opinion I like Sufjan Stevens better these days. I used to really like Deerhoof and went to many of their shows, but I really didn't like like their last two albums(Runners Four and Friend Opportunity.) Deerhoof has gone downhill while Sufjan Stevens has remained constant, plus I really like what he's doing with the whole united-states concept albums. They are both different styles though and it's kinda hard to compare, but eventhough Milk-man was really good, I'm gonna have to go with Sufjan.

5) just one for myself

B33f, Monday, 9 April 2007 08:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

oops sry about the double post

B33f, Monday, 9 April 2007 08:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah that doesn't cut it.

but...your name. i'm not a mod but i'll reccomend u on that alone.

jergïns, Monday, 9 April 2007 08:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear B33f,

Kindly explain why there is a MAN in the Cat Power picture you selected.

Thank you.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 9 April 2007 12:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

because it was the goofiest picture I could find

B33f, Monday, 9 April 2007 20:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear B33f,

Is there something about Oink that strikes you as goofy?

Thank you.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 9 April 2007 20:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

yes, it has a funny name, but seriously I'm not too big of a fan of Cat Power so I just found the goofiest picture I could.

B33f, Monday, 9 April 2007 22:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

IS THAT BUNNYBRAINS DOOD WITH CAT POWER

chaki, Monday, 9 April 2007 23:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

hell no thats devondra banheart

am0n, Monday, 9 April 2007 23:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

) requested username Adambedge17
b) first name (no surnames) Adam
c) age 26
d) gender male
e) geographic location Jacksonville, fl.


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
1) Bright Eyes- Cassadaga
2) Arcade Fire- Neon Bible
3) Stars- Do you Trust Your Friends

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Rockism is knowing that Incubus sucks. Rockism is being excited about the new Bjork record. Rockism is buying CDs you have already downloaded because you love having the physical copy. Rockism is not doing your grad school homework done because there are just so damn many good music blogs. Rockism is about going to shows by yourself if you can't get any of your friends to go. Rockism is writing out this paragraph even though I even tons of other stuff to do because I always want to hear new good music. Rockism is being able to tell someone how Sebadoh's 'Bakesale' seriously made 8th grade so much more tolerable. Rockism is not caring about what is being played on the radio or MTV.
3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
I'll take Sufjan. At the end of the day, his music is so much more accessible. If I am feeling a certain way, I put on Sufjan to either make me feel better or make me feel worse. While I really like Deerhoof, especially Runners Four, i just can't emotionally realte to some girl singing about a midnight bicycle thief mystery...or something. Plus, when you listen to Sufjan in the Fall, as the weather is changing, and all those horn start going, and the wind chimes kick in, try to tell me you aren't totally high on life. And Sufjan's use of so many different musical instruments always impresses me. Plus, anyone endeavoring to do 50 albums about all 50 states, in the days of disappearing albums, is admirable. And when I saw Sufjan live, he was a lot better than Deerhoof was.

5) How many invites do you require?
1

adambedge17, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 00:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear Admin. You lost my application first time around, which was approved. I was asked to reapply, so I reapplied, but through an incorrect and bad cut and paste of my original submission I was asked to reapply next year as my surfjan eight sentence minimum was lacking the cut and paste.

Next year?

Um, through no fault of my own, my application was first lost, then even though my original eight sentence minimum on surfjan was here on this board I was asked to wait a whole year.

So being a proactive kinda guy and thinking this was a reasonable request, I posted the application for a third time.

The response?

"Nicholas = we said next year.

Your IP now has a permanent ban placed on it.

-- Oink Administrator, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:02"

Thanks Admin, my tears are still falling, my heart is split in two, the trees seem much colder, my face seems much older and the blue sky is the blue day of misery that pervades my life.

nictric, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear Admin. You lost my application first time around, which was approved. I was asked to reapply, so I reapplied, but through an incorrect and bad cut and paste of my original submission I was asked to reapply next year as my surfjan eight sentence minimum was lacking the cut and paste.

Next year?

Um, through no fault of my own, my application was first lost, then even though my original eight sentence minimum on surfjan was here on this board I was asked to wait a whole year.

So being a proactive kinda guy and thinking this was a reasonable request, I posted the application for a third time.

The response?

"Nicholas = we said next year.

Your IP now has a permanent ban placed on it.

-- Oink Administrator, Friday, 16 March 2007 17:02"

Thanks Admin, my tears are still falling, my heart is split in two, the trees seem much colder, my face seems much older and the blue sky is the blue day of misery that pervades my life.

nictric, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sorry, I didn't mean to post twice, just in case you think I did. Thank you and Goodnight.

nictric, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 10:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

hey, don't know why my cat power link did not post. It is:
http://www.newcenter.com/tastefest/2006/media/photos/MOTORCITY_CASINO_MAIN_STAGE/CAT%20POWER%20&%20THE%20MEMPHIS%20RHYTHM%20BAND.jpg

adambedge17, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "nictric,"

There are a lot of people on this thread asking for invites, and you're the only one pulling childish pranks. How do you think that influences the decision that's before us?

Thank you.

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

i've lost my account due to inactivity during a holiday

a. hgi
b. Hristo
c. 23
d. male
e. Bulgaria/Sofia

1) The New Mastersounds - 102% [One Note]-2007
[JMANCD.015] VA-Good Things (The Story of Saadia Records) (2007)
[SOCIALCD05] Solo Moderna - Boogalookalikes (2007)

2) Sorry my english isn't good enough to exprees my own thoughts freely so it could seem more like copy-paste in some parts but i will try to write something descent.

Rockism is an ideology originating in the bristish music press from the late 70s. It's a loaded word, partly because it means a bunch of different things in practice. Generally, the rockism's tenet is that the composser is an author who expresses himself not driven by commercial purpose and he usually is the performer also. Rockism oposes the manufactured pop music created by hired producers and performed by pop stars, designed to satisfy the mass market and make profits rather than express authentic sentiments. The use of technology like synthesizers and computer-based production systems isn't respected. Rockist's prefer the using of the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums which fits the structures of a rock and roll song.
Kelefa Sanneh writes it in a NY Times article: rockism is "idolizing the authentic old legend (or underground hero) while mocking the latest pop star; lionizing punk while barely tolerating disco; loving the live show and hating the music video."
According to Robert Christgau rockism means putting stock in rock's "capacity to change lives or express truth"&#8212;as opposed to the kinds of pop that (a rockist would say) have more of a capacity to express pretty lies. To be a rockist, then and there, was to demand a perception of honesty in pop music, no matter how much artifice that honesty involved.
Some people say that rockism is bad becouse it puts music into limits - some really good music can be called bad only couse it doesn't fit in the rockist's standard for quality music.

3)http://wendylynchphotography.com/CatPower_2.jpg

4)I really find it difficult to give an answer couse i'm not familiar with these artists (i'm mostly into funk, soul, jazz, latin, broken beat etc.) I think that it's also incorrect to say which is better couse all depends on the musical taste. That's why i won't say which is better but will try to answer which i prefer from what i've found in the net.
I definitely have liked Deerhoof more than Sufjan Stevens couse the drums are harder there and i like drums a lot. It's dificult to explain (my english is poor) simply they are closer to my taste. I can write more to fit in the 8 sentences term but it will be empty words so i won't.

5) one ivite and i will be very happy

hgi, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 16:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

just to prove that i'm not a leecher

http://filemp3.org/userdetails.php?id=402000

http://themixingbowl.org/userdetails.php?id=125893

hgi, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 17:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) RidanKrad
b) Jonathan
c) 23
d) Male
e) California

1) Stars - Nightsongs
She Wants Revenge - She Wants Revenge
Metric - Old World Underground, Where Are You Now

2) Rockism is to music what Minimalism is to visual art. It rejects the excesses and reduces the art down to its core features. While the name implies a traditional rock and roll style, it extends further. Artists in other genres that have successfully captured the essence of the genre in their work are also an embodiment of Rockism. In that sense, then, Rockism is less about "rock", per say, and more about cutting off excess material from music that seeks only to artificially inflate it. In other words, Rockism is about killing "filler" material, i.e. music that is music only on a technical level, lacking the creative inspiration that enlivens the artform. Thus, while it may be tempting to criticize Rockism for rejecting creativity towards trying new ideas, in actuality the opposite is true. It encourages new ideas be tried, yet it disdains feigned attempts at originality that merely serve to fill up the allotted time on an album.

3) http://www.newcenter.com/tastefest/2006/media/photos/MOTORCITY_CASINO_MAIN_STAGE/CAT%20POWER%20&%20THE%20MEMPHIS%20RHYTHM%20BAND.jpg

4) I enjoy Deerhoof its creative style that reminds me somewhat of Metric and Broken Social Scene. However, that said, I must admit that I like Sufjan Stevens more. Deerhoof's vocal work, while it's good, sometimes sounds a little too unpolished. While to some degree that is just the style that is being sought, it can get somewhat grating at times, to the point of prompting me to skip to the next track. In contrast, Sufjan Steven's seems more melodic in its style which, at least when comparing these two artists, appeals to me more. Of course, there are some exceptions. For instance, track 4 on The Avalanche, "The Vivian Girls Are Visited In the Night By Saint Dargarius and His Squadron of Benevolent Butterflies", isn't really enjoyable for me and breaks the mood that the other tracks capture so well. Still, in spite of this, on the whole, while I enjoy both artists, if forced to choose one over the other, I enjoy Sufjan Stevens more.

5) One, please.

Ridan Krad, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Bazur121
b) Grig
c) 20
d) Male
e) Moscow

1)Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures (1979) [FLAC]
Univers Zero - Heresie (1979) [FLAC]
Blind Guardian - A Night At The Opera (2002) [FLAC]

2)Rockism is an ideology of popular music criticism, originating in the British music press in the late 1970s or early 1980s.The fundamental tenet of rockism is that some forms of popular music, and some musical artists, are more authentic than others. More specifically, authentic popular music fits the rock and roll paradigm; it is made using the basic rock instrumentation of guitars, bass guitars and drums, and fits the structures of a rock and roll song.

3)http://www.spin.com/vegoose06/images/2006/10/061028_catpowercoup_3.jpg

5)one

Bazur121, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 01:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) desertonfire
b) Nick
c) 19
d) Male
e) Bloomington, IN


1) Destroyer – Destroyer’s Rubies
of Montreal - Coquelicot Asleep in the Poppies: A Variety of Whimsical Verse
Voxtrot – Raised By Wolves

2) Essentially, rockism is a musical worldview (musicview?) or way of interpreting music that uses the archetypical image of rock and roll as the basis for its interpretation of all other music. Of course, “rock and roll” is a complex term itself, but however you slice it, rockism views its origins as sacred and authentic, while condemning the artificiality of mass-produced pop music as well as music that strays from the traditional sound/band structure of “rock and roll,” (e.g. music heavily relying on computerized elements instead of artist-created elements). Although rockism in its purest form is more or less non-existent and widely regarded as myopic, there are ways in which a “rockist” mentality often creeps into the mind of the average music listener unbeknownst to him. We often judge new music or sounds based on what we already know and reject unfamiliar or “weird” timbres. While I feel that rockism is somewhat of a laughable ideology and to belittle it is a bit redundant, I could use a few more sentences, so what the hell. To classify all things not “rock and roll” (again, I’m referring to the definition a rockist would use, however amorphous and contradictory it might be) as artificial and trite is a gross generalization that countless modern artists have proven wrong. Not all music using loops is commercial and reproachable. For example, I consider Gregg Gillis of Girl Talk just as much a creator or artist as any “rock and roller.” In any case, I feel that I’ve written enough now.

3) Cat Power

4) Interesting that you’ve chosen two artists who seem to defy the traditional “rockist” worldview, each in their own way. Sufjan, with his banjo and discordant, sometimes unlistenable, tinkering with song structure (see: Enjoy Your Rabbit, or just see him live… he likes to end songs with what appears to be every horn player puffing his cheeks to maximum capacity, each in a different key signature), and Deerhoof with what can only be called daring instrumental experimentation. But moving right along, a subjective question like this can really only be answered subjectively. While I enjoy both bands, I prefer Sufjan because, frankly, I’ve been listening to him longer and I’ve really formed an emotional connection to his music. Deerhoof can be entertaining depending on my state of mind, but Sufjan’s voice always seems to waft out of the speakers and stir something inside of me. Sure, some of it starts to sound the same, but if you consider the enormous body of work he’s put out in such a short time, you really can’t blame him for a few less-than-stellar efforts when there are so many good ones out there. After listening to a particularly beautiful track of his, it haunts me all day, and it really affects me. I know it’s become cool to hate on Sufjan lately, but I just won’t do it. I guess that’s what makes me fan.

5) 1

atomsforpeace, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 02:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hello OiNK,

Sorry if I sound like a tool, I was just wondering if the lack of a reply to my application is an implied rejection. The form states an answer will be given 1-3 days after posting and it's been a week since I applied and I'm just interested in knowing if I was accepted or not because not knowing is almost torture. Thank you.

-Grandepois

grandepois, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 05:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well you're are not alone on that:P but as far as I understand they're having some problems with the invite system..

tobb3, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 09:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobb would be correct.

We're doing the best we can. In the meantime, we appreciate your patience- keep the great applications coming!

:) :) :)

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 18:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Patience has its rewards!

Confounded, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 19:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

“He that can have Patience, can have what he will”

B. Franklin

:D

tobb3, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 20:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Can I reapply then? My views have changed on the deerhoof/sufjan subject.:)

grandepois, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 23:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

I refuse to take part in this fad held by the common forum junkie. If you want to refuse me access based strictly upon this refusal, well you're entitled to that and I'll accept the rejection, but analyze it for a minute.

Dear "grandepois",

I can't say I think this attitude would translate well into our supportive pink community.

Thank you.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 12 April 2007 01:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hmm, you have a point there. I suppose it goes both ways though... I wasn't aware I was applying for a group of people so close minded that they would discriminate against others because an obsession with an artist isn't shared. I thought it was filled with open minded people who didn't force their beliefs upon one another. If I knew I was applying to the musical equivalent of the KKK I wouldn't have bothered. Sorry for being an asshole, keep segregating yourselves, you're good at it.

grandepois, Thursday, 12 April 2007 05:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh and I'm well aware how immature this follow up post is. Have fun complaining about me to each other.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Disposablehero9/catpowersucks.gif
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/Disposablehero9/catpowersucks.gif

Cat power sucks and really isn't hot. In every picture I've seen of her she either looks like a crack whore or looks extremely young. So that must mean all of you have disgusting fetishes, whether it be liking the anorexic type or being a pedophile, that's you're deal though and I hope you can cope with it. I just hope you all eventually kick your disgusting obsessions. Good luck.

grandepois, Thursday, 12 April 2007 06:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

tru

chaki, Thursday, 12 April 2007 06:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

2 tru

Michael Servetus, Thursday, 12 April 2007 07:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "grandepois",

Congratulations! You've passed the Oink adversity test, which probes how much musical independence you truly have!

Your invite should arrive in the next day or two.

Thank you.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 12 April 2007 13:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

First there was Gandhi, then there was Martin Luther King JR. Now a new hero emerges...grandepois. I can see it all now, "grandepois paving the way for indie kids everywhere." Yeah, I like that. Good stuff.

grandepois, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

dont get ahead of yourself.

Myspace Password Admin, Thursday, 12 April 2007 17:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "grandepois",

I almost feel bad now. I was just jerking your chain.

Thank you.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 12 April 2007 17:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh, grandepois

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 12 April 2007 17:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was well aware of that...You were sarcastic so I thought I would play off of that, sorry I assumed you were able to sense when someone wasn't being serious. Who would seriously compare themselves to Gandhi and Martin Luther King?

grandepois, Thursday, 12 April 2007 18:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

grandepois, this is an A to B conversation, and you need to C your way out. Oink is not for you. Our community does not want you.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 12 April 2007 18:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hello Oink,
I have returned from my fishing trip...I am quite disappointed with the writhing fish at the end of my fishing line. We couldn't go to Lake Tahoe because it was snowing so we ended up in Lake Berryessa. My family only caught tiny babies and since it's Spring I'm guessing that there aren't many big fishes around.

Here's one of the fellas we caught:
http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/9683/apr9003ru2.jpg

And then there's Glory Hole:
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6201/apr9012xs0.jpg

crabcigar, Thursday, 12 April 2007 18:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

better luck next time, CC.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 12 April 2007 18:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

if you have never heard of the Glory Hole before crabcigar's post and want to see more photos of it, doing a google image search for "glory hole" will not help you.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 12 April 2007 19:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

LOOOL

Confounded, Thursday, 12 April 2007 19:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh come on, I didn't mean that Glory Hole!

crabcigar, Thursday, 12 April 2007 19:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha, your unfortunate google search literally made me LOL. now the people at the table across from me are giving me strange looks. anyway, a search for "glory hole lake berryessa" yielded slightly less shocking results: http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=Rk4&q=glory+hole+lake+berryessa&btnG=Search+Images

hope that helps.

atomsforpeace, Thursday, 12 April 2007 19:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

crabcigar, did you eat that fish?

Lingbert, Thursday, 12 April 2007 19:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nope.

crabcigar, Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

did you catch and release it?

Lingbert, Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Pretty much; they were too small.

crabcigar, Thursday, 12 April 2007 20:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) horselover_fat
b) ryan
c) 26
d) male
e) toronto


1) small brown bike - our own wars [1999/No Idea/mp3/256]
minisystem - madingley [2006/Noise Factory/mp3/256]
jenny piccolo - discography [2006/31G/mp3/320]

2) Rockism is a movement that was founded in the early eighties in a small suburb of toronto called oshawa. Unknowingly, as they tussled their frizzy locks cut to fit just right under their hockey helmets, blared '2 minutes to midnight' and 'rime of the ancient mariner' from their camaro's, and smoked copius amounts of shitty biker hash oil, the blue collar workers of this small burb were starting a movement. This paradigm shift in musical appreciation would echo throughout audiences worldwide, breaking down walls set up by prejudice and ignorance. Finally, it would be ok to be into dudes who dressed like chicks, and sing in falsetto with 'the guys'. It would reach so far as to influence guitar design itself, where companies such as Ibanez now designed the guitar to be as dandy as the star playing it. Some attribute this freak occurrence of cross-cultural suburban influence to, uh, bears. But it is undeniable that rockism can be seen even today throughout popular culture. It is an inevitability that once the no-wave fashionistas are tired of ripping on that, the next style to take on the dance party will be Rockism.

3) http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/030129/18144__catpower_l.jpg

4) It can be stated with pure scientific fact that sufjan stevens is indeed the second coming of Jesus Christ. One needs only to look at the sexy people that accompany him to play, pure Disciple material indeed. However, much like the first Christ, it’s pretty easy to get behind someone that says their the son of god. Sympathizing with the down-trodden American worker (‘with a pair of payless shoes’) in the lonely peninsula’s and isthmus’ of the northeast with delicate picks of a banjo and vocal harmonies is like shooting indie fish in a barrel for unit sales. And for awhile, I believed that Sufjan was my saviour, too. But album after album of that familiar formula that packs in the crystal cathedrals and concert halls began to wear thin. While harkening from the pulpit can indeed sway the congregation, once you’ve ascended to that place, whose shoes do you wear now? Mayhaps we need a Luther to bring Sufjan back to reality. Deerhoof, on the other hand, sings about the milkman. Who doesn’t like milk?

5) 1

ender, Thursday, 12 April 2007 21:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Do you have any invites left? I'll type up an application if you give me an ok.

RichyG, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

I was just typing the same question as RichyG....

belljaf, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ender,
I am quite shocked by the fact that you mention Sufjan an equal to Christ. I am curious; would you care to elaborate further?

crabcigar, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

RichyG, belljaf:

we have plenty!

Oink Administrator, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

a.) Anthony
b.) Anthony
c.) 18
d.) Male
e.) Mansfield, OH, US

1) a. The Fall of Troy- Doppelganar
b. Protest the Hero- Kezia
c. +44 - When Your Heart Stops Beating
2) Rockism is an ideology about real authentic music. Many people think that "pop" music is not a true artisic expression because of the mess of recording professionals and censors that water down the music. It is merely played by the performer. Rockism is wary of the use of technology, such as synthesizers and computer programs, used in the production of pop music. Rockism is based on the notion that real music is concieved from an artist and perfomed as a form of self expression, not a public display of music for the sole purpose of monetary gain.
3) <a href=http://www.celluloidandvinyl.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/_smoking_cat_power.jpg"></a>

4) I believe that both Deerhoof and Surfjan Stevens are exceptional artists. They both creat and compose music that does not fit the mainstraim pop structure. Deerhoof has extremely erroneous song structures and Surfjan Stevens has an ambient awe about it. Both of these fine artists represent what the music scene is all about; self expression. Music as an art is a practice kept alive by creative, non-molded projects like Deerhoof and Surfjan Stevens.
5) I only require one invite.

Anthony, Friday, 13 April 2007 03:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) whipit
b) Dan
c) 29
d) Male
e) Sydney, Australia


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
Umek - Monoid
Mr. Scruff - Keep It Unreal
The Crystal Method - Tweekend

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
The concept of rockism is truly unique to music. The idea of a critical discourse warped by the values of one genre or school would be more difficult to imagine in film, for example, when asked “Do you take big studio ‘popcorn movies’ more seriously than other critics?” movie critic Roger Ebert responded: “I take all movies seriously. The term ‘popcorn movie’ is the kind of journalese that one would try to avoid. Movies are either good or bad, within their genres and spheres of intention, regardless of who makes them.”
Rockism doesn’t mean much to anyone outside of the small circles of music critics, the pseudo-critics, like yours truly, and those who populate the weblogs and chatrooms of the Internet. As a term, “rockism” is as much a buzzword to the music community as “meta,” “neo-liberalism,” and “heteronormism” are to academia. In the most simple of terms, rockism is the unofficial theory that popular music of the rock ’n’ roll persuasion is inherently more authentic, worthwhile and better than others. It’s the mindset that whatever is recorded on a primitive eight track is inherently more valid and worth of serious criticism than the lip-synching pop star supported by a corporation.Rockism is essentially a prejudiced attitude to any form of popular music that doesn't conform to the values of rock music (in the most narrow and conventional sense of the term.) The most obvious example of this is the tendency of middle-aged fans of 'classic rock' to describe any music that involves the overt use of electronic instruments as not 'real music'.



3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
Pussy Power. Guaranteed to get you what you want, every time.


4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
Not being familiar with either of these artists, i'm just going to flip a coin to decide. Best of three. Heads is Stevens, tails and it's Deerhoof. First flip, heads. Second flip, tails. Third and deciding flip, tails. So there you have it. Deerhoof is better, by a tail.

5) How many invites do you require?
One please.

whipit, Friday, 13 April 2007 06:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, I wouldnt say that I said he's an equal to christ. my analogy was merely to shed light on notions of idol worship and personality cults that de facto rise out of "indie" culture...just using some free literary license yo...but if i could pander down that same road again, i'd say that what happens in indie rock is kinda similar to organized religion....people put out records, people then freak out and blog and write articles about what they think the artist was doing & meaning, and whether or not it should be played backwards or forwards, etc.. when really, people should buy music based on if they individually like it, rather than aquiesce to whomever particular publications have decided is going to sell them the most ad revenue. as if there is some sort of quantitative objective truth in opinion, as if there was one true religion. nah mean?

ender, Friday, 13 April 2007 15:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ender: after that convincing argument, we have decided to bestow upon you the invite we were going to give crabcigar. Congrats! You will be recieving your invite shortly. We hope you discover much more christlike music as a member of the Pink Palace.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 13 April 2007 20:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) binaryan
b) ryan
c) 24
d) m
e) washington, dc

1)
Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted: Luxe and Redux
The Dirty Projectors - The Glad Fact
Brian Eno and David Byrne - My Life in the Bush of Ghosts

2) Rockism is bullshit. Rockism places value judgments where they don't belong, in the nebulous realm of music appreciation. Rockism creates borders inside an art that builds bridges. Rockism discards the authenticity of personal taste - as if personal choices need validation. Rockism is lazy criticism. It's somewhat natural but not inescapable. I'm often guilty. Rockism isn't worth the sixty seconds I just spent thinking about it.

3) This one's from a french mp3 blog

4) "Better" and "artist" are loaded words. I say that Sufjan is a better songwriter and a better musician, but that Deerhoof is the better artist. Sufjan works inside a time-tested musical framework to create beautiful music that uplifts and inspires masses. I don't use "masses" lightly - I saw his recent show at the Kennedy Center (backed by the National Symphony Orchestra) and the swooning crowds in the sold-out theater were tiny compared to the throngs that filled the lobby, balcony and courtyard of the building.
Conversely, Deerhoof makes challenging music that is inaccessible to most casual listeners. A truly random "man-on-the-street" sampling of 50 would likely turn up no Deerhoof fans. But these fans do exist. I last saw Deerhoof at the Warehouse Next Door, a tiny artspace in downtown Washington, DC. Like Sufjan at the Kennedy Center, this show was also sold-out, with a marked difference. Over half the members of the room were fellow musicians from our local scene. They were inspired, in part by Deerhoof, to create music of their own, and had to come to watch a band they admired create their art live.
Along with about 3,000 others, I waited 14 hours for tickets to that Sufjan show. Talked to a lot of people. About a fifth of them had never heard his music before; they were there because their girlfriend or brother liked him. They were there because camping out "sounded fun."

5) One, please.

binaryan, Friday, 13 April 2007 21:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) bellstar
b) Josh
c) 19
d) Male
e) Leeds, UK


1) Chin up, Chin up - This Harness Can't Ridae Anything
The Jayhawks - Tomorrow The Green Grass
Jimi Hendrix - South Saturn Delta
2) Rockism is the idea that at some point in the past music was perfect (or at least close) and that all music produced since then is inferior in some way. This 'golden age' is often assumed have occured at some point during the 60's and 70's. The term itself is thought to have first originated in the british press in the Late 70's and 80's. It is an idea that can only credibly used in the critisism of music. If the principles of 'rockism' are applied to any other medium of art then people would become anoyed as the concept discourages the production of new art.
Rockist music typicly contains only Drums, Bass and guitar and frowns apon music that uses synthesisers and post production to create the song. One of the main critisms of Rockism is that it is a racist, homophobic and sexist ideology as the artists that Rockists identify with are White heterosexual males. There are however many examples of 'rockist' artists that defy this critisim, for example: Jimi Hendrix, Chuck Berry, Patti Smith and R.E.M.

3) [img][Removed Illegal Link]

4) Oooh, gonna have to say Sufjan as he is one of my favorite artists and for me would win most comparisons. That said if I had to take an artist as a whole (i.e. all their albums) then I would pick Deerhoof. Some of Sufjans stuff is a bit too harsh for me, especially enjoy your rabit whereas I could happily listen to all of Deerhoof. Sufjan has also had some shockers, I enjoyed the christmas album for the first day then the cheese nearley made me kill myself. So now I think about it I'm not too sure which I prefer. I thought this was going to be easy but I guess I'm going to have to go and re-listen to the both and then make up my mind...

Ok just relistened to the my fav tracks and I think sufjan still get's it. His song structures really appeal to me and I prefer his more chilled out instrumentation, especially the banjo.

5) How many invites do you require?

Just the one please

belljaf, Friday, 13 April 2007 22:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Awww...I was really hoping to get an invite and give you guys my music but I guess I lost my chance. Well, it was a pleasure submitting an application and sharing my fish with you guys. Take care.

crabcigar, Friday, 13 April 2007 23:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

just realised my cat power link messed up so here it is again:

http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/archives/20cat_CA1.650.jpg

belljaf, Friday, 13 April 2007 23:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

omg she looks so fat in that picture

Oink Administrator, Friday, 13 April 2007 23:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://members.aol.com/drewmaenza/squeal.gif

Oink Administrator, Friday, 13 April 2007 23:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

belljaf, your ability to paraphrase Wikipedia is unmatched. good work.

atomsforpeace, Saturday, 14 April 2007 00:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

@crabcigar:

So long, and thanks for all the fish.

g®▲Ðұ, Saturday, 14 April 2007 02:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

what kind of fish

am0n, Saturday, 14 April 2007 03:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

crabcigar, you can still be our friend. just because we won't oink together doesn't mean we can't roll together.

Lingbert, Saturday, 14 April 2007 13:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://bookarmor.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/crab1.jpg

am0n, Saturday, 14 April 2007 14:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) captaincurk
b) Johnny (Jonathan, actually) Hanson
c) 19
d) male (obviously ^^)
e) Germany, Cologne

1) Justin Timberlake - FutureSex/LoveSounds (embarassing, huh)
Jeff Buckley - Grace
Joanna Newsom - Ys

2) Since most people here have tried to exactly circumphrase "rockism", which to me is more of a slippery, less easily defined term, I will not do that again (sorry folks!). Although I do agree with rockism in many ways, it has a property, which troubles me, and here's why:

A couple of weeks ago we had a contest for newcomer rockbands of our area. The winning band was all styled up and stuff, but they could play their instruments! I was like "Yes, FINALLY! The return of the rockbands!" and a friend of mine said "No no, they are obviously posing. This is all commercial fake."

I am trying to show, how you can adhere to the "laws of rockism" and still be of a completely different opinion of an artist.

Please try me for using anecdotal evidence and not answering the question either, but this has been done so many times before!

3) http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cat20power2020the20mempul2.jpg

4) Errrr ... I have to admit that I have not consciously listened to Deerhoof recently, but I do like Sufjan Stevens, and here's why:

When I'm not clubbing around cologne, I like to listen to music, in order to either reflect on somthing or simply chill out and relax. And Sufjan's music is a pretty good match for both occasions. To me, Sufjan Stevens is like some sort of "Cat Stevens" of today. And I'd like to add (if I may) that his music sort of turns women on ("To be alone with you"), too!

5) Is there any reason why I would possibly want more than one invite? If so, I want many; if not so, I'll be happy with one :)

Please excuse any misspellings, I'm not a native speaker and kindof in a hush right now.

Enjoy the sun, people!

captaincurk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 14:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh bugger!

http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3584/catpowerthegreatest1ct3.th.jpg

captaincurk, Saturday, 14 April 2007 14:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

A) RichyG
B) Richard
C) 17
D) Male
E) NC, USA


1)
Stadium Arcadium - RHCP
Vena Sera - Chevelle
Me and My Gang - Rascal Flatts

2)
Rockism, derived from the British music press in the early '80s, can be defined in more than one way, and it would be difficult to recognize one absolute meaning. While there are many vague interpretations of it, there is one I beleive to be true. Although it is more narrow, and more up to debate here is the here is my translation of rockism and the ideas behind it. Essentially, it is treating rock as normative. From a rockist view, rock is the standard state of popular music. Interestingly it is not entirely rockist to love rock, or to write about it. You also care about R&B or norteño or bubble gum pop, but discuss them in a rockist way. The idea is built into the way people talk informally about whatever kinds of popular music interest them. If artists such as Usher or Elizaa Carthy do something amazing....it rocks.

3) http://tourb.us/band/logo/4311/catpower.jpg?1155475395

4)
I personally don't think very highly of either artist. I am a musician myself, I play the Tenor Saxophone and study Music Theory, for that reason I find myself more proficient to hearing patterns, rhythms, ideas, chords, harmonies, etc... I can say that Sufjan has somewhat interesting ideas with his banjo, and sometimes other string instruments, but I do not enjoy his music. I find it very narrow, he hardly leaves the octave he starts in. His voice however is soothing... one of the few compliments I can give.
I could rant about how terrible Deerhoof is for hours. I've never heard a worse voice in my life. I hate it. If enjoying Deerhoof's music is acquired, I have yet to acquire it. The only thing I can say is that even though every aspect of the music I really do not like one bit, it is very different, and I'm sure it will appeal to a crowd that is very different from myself.
The question was however which artist is better. To answer it I say Sufjan Stevens.

5) One, please. (Richy✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧)

RichyG, Saturday, 14 April 2007 14:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Damn, sorry guys. My deepest apologies to the benevolent moderators here. I'm using my brother's Amiga, and it can't handle ASCII protocol correctly.

I'm going to try this once more: please send my acceptance invite or rejection to RichyG✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

RichyGtwo, Sunday, 15 April 2007 01:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

okay, once more (please don't ban me)

thats: RichyGtwo (at) gmail dot com

RichyGtwo, Sunday, 15 April 2007 01:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

RichyGtwo,

We appreciate the informal and personal tone you brought to your answers. You are approved, an invite has been sent to the above e-mail address.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 01:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wait... am I approved? Who is this RichyGtwo guy?

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 02:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

I would just like to say that I posted on this site long ago and I never received any response.

tohms19, Sunday, 15 April 2007 02:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

I have looked through this thread and I didn't see any other post by "RichyGtwo"
Unless I am wrong, and it really does not seem so, someone noticed my email did not register and took advantage of it by replication my username and giving a different email. MY email is RichyGee (at) gmail (dot) com.

I am sorry for this inconvenience and I am in no way trying to obtain multiple invites. Maybe cross referencing IP Adress' can confirm that RichyGtwo is an imposter. However this is me, from the original account from which the application was submitted. I put a good bit of effort into getting in to OiNK and it is very disturbing seeing someone else try to steal from me. Once again, I'm sorry for this inconvenience and I would greatly appreciate some aid.

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 02:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Team,

I would just like to say thank you for the invite, it is a privilege to be a part of your community. There is so much incredible music here -- but really at the end of it all it's about people and the connections we make.

Infinite Thanks,
RichyG

RichyGtwo, Sunday, 15 April 2007 02:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Whoa,

What the hell is going on? Please ban fake RichyG, he is trying to steal my invite, which I've already used anyway.

Please don't besmirch my good name.

Highest Regards,
RichyG

RichyGtwo, Sunday, 15 April 2007 02:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

Why are you doing this...? Please OiNK Admin, there has to be some way to justify that this is actually me. Why would I make a whole new account on this message board to correct my email anyway? Why not just use the one I already have anyway. Look you can tell there is a different person in each account just by the syntax and sentence structure. For example, RichyGtwo has used words such as "hell" and "damn" which aren't vulgar words themselves, but just more aggressive. I have used no such words in my own posts. RichyGtwo is also using a more formal "letter-like" method of speech, which I have not done as well.
Please, please, don't ban me. I can verify that this is genuinely me.

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 02:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well met good sir,

I also can verify that this is genuinely me. But I will not plead my case like a bleating lamb. For only the Oink Administrators have the wisdom of Solomon.

RichyGtwo, Sunday, 15 April 2007 02:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

Alright we will leave this up to the OiNK admins. I would appreciate you not calling me a bleating lamb. I have every right to be furious at you and insult you but I am refraining, I would like you to show me the same respect. I am arguing for something I care for

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 03:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

I've come to realize how this is fake and that you really don't have invites to hand out. the invite system has been "broken down" for more than 2 weeks and I'm sure OiNK would have that fixed as soon as possible if it did happen. Funny idea you guys had, but it should have gotten old about 500 hits ago. The joke's over.

And RichyG, the "oink administrators" are richygtwo. They don't have any invites to hand out and they never did. I doubt OiNK would put invites in the hands of degenerates like these guys.

Oh, Cat Power still sucks.

grandepois, Sunday, 15 April 2007 03:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "RichyG,"

I think you'll find it's not uncommon for those who don't receive invites to air their grievances publicly.

"Grandepois" has a lot of valuable things to say, but those were in his application. All else is slander.

Please enjoy the invite sent to your second account.

Thank you.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 04:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ah fuck, I knew this was fake from the beginning... but I figured it wouldn't hurt to try... just in case. I waited patiently for 4 days, but it's time to give up and go looking elsewhere. Have fun, "Oink Admin."

atomsforpeace, Sunday, 15 April 2007 04:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

So this entire thing is a scam? Well, I did think it was "fishy" (har har), considering that their invite system "broke down" and that more than a ton of people applied and invites were going out...


and 23 invites since January, you guys must be fans of Blonde Redhead's latest album of Jim Carrey's cute little movie to pick such a random number...why should I care, either way I'm not part of this community. Tee hee.

crabcigar, Sunday, 15 April 2007 04:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yeah, you've got to hand it to them though... most people wouldn't keep up a prank for so long. Their commitment is impressive, to say the least. A bit of a shame, some of the people on here were pretty cool. Crabcigar, let's start our own super-exclusive torrent site and IP ban Oink Admin. Haha.

atomsforpeace, Sunday, 15 April 2007 05:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

atomsforpeace, Oink is not a pickup bar. Please take your flirting elsewhere.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 07:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Well, if it is a scam, I'd recommend that you guys search for Pedro's Tracker. Heck, I'll make it easier: Pedro's Tracker . I've not been accepted yet myself, but I'm sure a few of the smarter ones of us will get in. Good luck.

merzhin, Sunday, 15 April 2007 12:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "RichyG,"

I think you'll find it's not uncommon for those who don't receive invites to air their grievances publicly.

"Grandepois" has a lot of valuable things to say, but those were in his application. All else is slander.

Please enjoy the invite sent to your second account.

Thank you.


So are you saying your not going to invite me? Is this really a scam?

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 14:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

It mostly likely is a scam, but who's to say? Either you wait an eternity and never get an invite or just drop the idea. Normally you'd have to go chat with the real OiNK people in the mIRC chatrooms; I didn't know that snooping through forums would do any good. Heck, check the 4chan forums if you have to, you'd probably find some gold here. My friend got through OiNK with a 4.0 ratio going on, not from here, but from an invite of another friend. Maybe I'll ask him to PM the real OiNK admins and bring this bootleg joint downtown to Chinatown.

crabcigar, Sunday, 15 April 2007 15:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

That would be nice, maybe while your at it ask him to hook me one up :D
My real email is a few posts up

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 15:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear boys,

Quaking in our boots.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 15:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

My friend got through OiNK with a 4.0 ratio going on, not from here, but from an invite of another friend.

Dear "crabcigar,"

Funny that your friend doesn't have an invite to send *you*, isn't it?

Enjoyed your fishing tale though! Maybe next time you'll catch something!

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 15:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wait Oink Administrator, are you not going to send me an invite to RichyGee (at) gmail (dot) com?

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 16:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Im clinging to the hope that you did not scam me : /

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "RichyG,"

Yes -- welcome to Oink!

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 16:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

Have you sent it? Its not in my Inbox or Spam folder

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 16:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "RichyG,"

We have seen this scam before -- you cannot have two invites. There are only six left.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 16:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

dear oink admin,
was i accepted or rejected, because ive waited for 3 weeks without a response.

tohms19, Sunday, 15 April 2007 16:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

But I never got the first one?

RichyG, Sunday, 15 April 2007 16:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

Heck, check the 4chan forums if you have to, you'd probably find some gold here.

4chan marshall

▒█▄█ ▄▄ ▒█▄█, Sunday, 15 April 2007 16:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

But I never got the first one?

Dear "RichyG,"

Is that a question or a statement?

I am trying to work with you here. Perhaps you need to think about making this easy on me.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 17:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh, I'll squeeze an invite out of him once his invites replenish. Don't worry about me, folks. I hope you enjoy your fishing excursion as well; catch some Sufjan-starved Christians while you're at it. But seeing how you're not getting anywhere with these scams, it's better to salvage yourself. After all, it is the Sabbath and you must remain holy, won't you "Oink Admin"? :)


And funny you were up around what, 4 AM in the morning, Greenwich Mean Time Zone, replying to posts on this forum? Isn't OiNK stationed in the UK? Who lingers around on forums so early in the morning when one should be patrolling fellow OiNK users and their activity, let alone, manage this up since January. I think we have a fellow American among us.

By the way, when you mention "six invites left", whatever happened to your invite systems being down? And then convincing others "There's plenty of invites left!"


Cute!!! ^_^

crabcigar, Sunday, 15 April 2007 17:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "crabcigar,"

Things make more sense when you read the entire thread, instead of the parts of your choosing.

Also, I don't "patrol" fellow Oink users, Encyclopedia Brown.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 17:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

You are quite the owl.
Sleep well tonight.



You can only find truth with logic if you have already found truth without it.

crabcigar, Sunday, 15 April 2007 17:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nice forum dedicated to me btw.

crabcigar, Sunday, 15 April 2007 17:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.iprettymuchhateeverything.com/Crab%20Penis.jpg

crabcigar, Sunday, 15 April 2007 17:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "crabcigar,"

You have offended my gentle sensibilities.

Have an excellent night, and best of luck with everything!

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 17:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)nikosbad
b)Nikos
c)25
d)male
e)Athens,Greece

1)Thievery corporation - Songs from the thievery Hi-Fi
Nightmares on wax - Carboot soul
Bang Bang - Je t aime Je t aime

2)Rockism is essentially a prejudiced attitude to any form of popular music that doesn't conform to the values of rock music (in the most narrow and conventional sense of the term).The most obvious example of this is the tendency of middle-aged fans of 'classic rock' to describe any music that involves the overt use of electronic instruments as not 'real music'.

3)http://www.sentireascoltare.com/CriticaMusicale/Monografie/catpower/cat-power-font4.jpg

4)To be honest they both dont match my style.I can ,though,recognize the quality in music when i hear it and i can say that both have some.I can not tell you wich one is better.I do like Sufjan Stevens
more though.He is more intimate and melodic.Deerhoof is more chaotic
and playful,more experimental which is nice if the result is good enough.In his case the result was good but not enough.

5)Just one

Thank you in advance.

nikosbad, Sunday, 15 April 2007 19:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Lol @ nikosbad

atomsforpeace, Sunday, 15 April 2007 20:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "nikosbad,"

I enjoyed your responses, but several are shorter than we require. Please see your email for further elaboration.

You are a strong contender.

Thanks,

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 15 April 2007 20:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

thanks muchly!

ender, Sunday, 15 April 2007 22:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Sorry Oink Admin I wasn't trying to make anything hard on you, I was trying to be polite. I thought the statement "But I never got the first one." seemed blunt and rude so I just tossed a question mark in it lighten it up a little. Sorry.

This is what I was trying to say though. When I submitted my application I stated my email so that in case i made the cut for OiNK you would know where to send the invite. However my email did not register on these forums and it got cut out. Someone saw that and took advantage of it by making an imposter account (RichyGtwo) and giving a different email address. I was trying to clarify that this person scammed me and stole my invite. To avoid all risks of me trying to obtain multiple OiNK accounts, please cancel the account created by the invite sent to the imposter email, and please send me an invite this email address.
RichyGee (at) gmail (dot) com

Thank you,
RichyG

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 02:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

OK Richy,

This really isn't protocol, but you sound like a great guy and someone we'd really enjoy having in the Oink community. So I am going to re-send you another invite to &#10023;i&#10023;&#10023;y&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;@g&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;.&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;.

Please understand that this is not how we normally operate. Your first invite was mailed to you successfully and for some reason you messed it up. I could actually get in trouble from my boss for doing something like this on a public forum, so I hope you are appreciative.

Please make good use of this second invite. We look forward to your contribution to the pink palace.

Regards,

Oink Admin

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 03:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

:-\ it sounds so fake now. You guys had your heyday. Let it go.

merzhin, Monday, 16 April 2007 04:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

btw, if you guys have been in the forums around here, there's a fellow who calls himself 'Myspace Password Admin'. I think we have the same sort of impostor here. I've no doubt that this fellow has invites, but 'I could actually get in troube from my boss...' wtf? Not to mention the fact that Oink has no reason to solicit new members; private trackers that give out invites don't stay private too long.

You had me going there for a while.

merzhin, Monday, 16 April 2007 05:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: sling_theory; or something that sounds faux scientific
b) first name (no surnames): dave
c) age: 27
d) gender: male
e) geographic location: Syracuse, NY...A frozen wasteland awaits.

1) The Robot Ate Me - On Vacation I & II
Odd Nosham – Le Mix Tape
Tunnel of Love – Rock’n Roll’n Bitches

2) The Fun Answer. Rockism describes that age-old situation of
You listen that blank band
, which is usually accompanied by a sour-face and a heavy eye role. The accused can either denied and lie out of embarrassment say
Oh, no, that album blank belongs to: my little brother, my ex-girlfriend, or my mom
, choice dependent on genre. Or the accused can stand up and retort,
Yeah, that’s my Pat Benatar album, I own it because Love is a battlefield
.

The Real Answer.
Rockism
is a hierarchical term coined by British music critics in the late 70s, it infers that Rock'n'Roll is superior to Pop Music, Hip-hop, and Electronic Music. It basically discredits Synthesizers, Sampling, Computer-Software as valid musical instruments. It's an elitist, narrow minded ideology, that attempts to hold onto a nostalgia of what it deems to be the
Golden Age
of Rock'n'Roll, the 60s and early 70s, of course. I don't think many musicians buy into the idea. New technologies are another tool in the toolbox of possibilities.

3) She looks so proper and out of place in a frame…Chan, your already art in my book.

http://bigscreenlittlescreen.net/2006/09/19/cat-power-meets-wong-kar-wai/

4) Hmmm…as a fellow Michigander, I should support Sufjan, but I have to go with Deerhoof, they just reinvented themselves. Friend Opportunity shows immense progress, its challenging, but the album was also a real gamble. Ever since the album Michigan, Sufjan’s been so self-absorbed. Illinois and its poor little cousin Avalanche are so monotonous. It's all Horns, Horns, Horns, synthesizers, Horns, synthesizers, Horns, Horns, rinse and repeat. Sometimes I think the release of Avalanche was just to paid the bills. And one album each state thing is hokey, it sounds interesting on 60 minutes, but maybe Arkansas doesn’t want there own album and maybe Delaware doesn’t deserve one. I shouldn't be a Sufjan hater, I enjoy some Sufjan occasionally, mostly the older stuff Seven Swans and Michigan. But, I have to give props to Deerhoof, its uncomfortable and exciting to work outside your own limits.
(No hard feelings toward any Arkansonians or Delawareans)

5) Just one for myself.

sling_theory, Monday, 16 April 2007 05:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

I assure you I am very real.

Myspace Password Admin, Monday, 16 April 2007 05:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

I can only think of one reason why people keep submitting new applications: they are blind. As is evident from sling_theory's app, voice typing software still has a few bugs to be worked out.

atomsforpeace, Monday, 16 April 2007 06:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "atomsforpeace,"

Perhaps the new applicants have heard about the site from friends who were actually chosen to receive invites.

Yes, it just boggles the mind sometimes, does it not?

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 09:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

I still have not received an invite. When you were stating the email that you sent it to it showed
&#10023;i&#10023;&#10023;y&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;@g&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;.&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;
I'm not sure what that is

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 09:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

I hope you didnot send the invite to RichyGtwo (at) gmail (dot) com.

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 10:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Oink Administrator,"

I have a number of questions for you.

#1

Got my invite today! Thanks!

-- chaki


A search for chaki shows no sign of an application ever being submitted. However, as the above quote demonstrates, chaki reports having received an invite and your response to this was, ":):) That's great news chaki! Welcome to our community! :):)" indicating that you do not see chaki as having misrepresented himself.

#2

As dthemora, a user who you said was approved weeks ago yet never received an invite, noted:

Oink Administrator (sanskrit) wrote: Confounded = Rejected


Confounded wrote: I got my invite very quickly here. Thanks Oink Admins!


Although Confounded replied with the explanation, "I got rejected the first time, but I didn't give up. Please don't call me a liar." a search for his name also finds absolutely no indication of an application. On the contrary, what it finds is a user "Oink Admin (Confounded)". Curious, indeed.

#3

Finally, it seems that there is no indication of anyone having ever submitted an application, being approved and then reporting successful retrieval of the invite.

Because of the aforementioned, you can no doubt see, then, how skepticism of the authenticity of this application process would come about. Indeed, since this is almost certainly a prank, I must comment that, while I admire your dedication at having kept it going for so long, had you had a few dupe accounts actually submit applications and then "get invites" it would've made things far more convincing.

Nonetheless, to be perfectly honest, I had never heard of either Deerhoof or Surjan before this, so while I am disappointed in the futility of my attempt at getting an invite, the bright side is that I got to broaden my musical tastes a little further.

Thank you,

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 10:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Woah Ridan might me right....unless the Oink Admin can prove me wrong by sending me an invite!!

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 10:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.ukquad.com/sleuth.jpg

jergïns, Monday, 16 April 2007 10:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nonetheless, to be perfectly honest, I had never heard of either Deerhoof or Surjan before this, so while I am disappointed in the futility of my attempt at getting an invite, the bright side is that I got to broaden my musical tastes a little further.

Dear "Ridan Krad,"

Congratulations on expanding your world a little! Perhaps some day you will be admitted into the web's most exclusive music community!

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 11:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Oink Administrator,"

As you failed to address the points I mentioned, I will take this as you admitting that this is all a prank.

Thank you,

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

not a prank! i received an invite and download the new alblums! i admint that its kind of a chrallenge to keep up a good ratio on oink but well worf it!

chaki, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ridan you should check your spam folder the invite is probably in there.

jergïns, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Chaki, as I already noted above, you never even submitted an application. You're just someone who's in on the prank but was too lazy to do a pseudo application. It's too bad, really. Had you done that, I might be tempted to believe you.

Jergins, why would an invite be in my spam folder when I was never even approved by the so-called Oink Administrator?

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

really you'll want to check it

jergïns, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Ridan Krad,"

What points must I confront? That you are one of several disgruntled posters who did not receive an invite? I don't keep tabs on all the rejects -- although I can check on the ratio of all the approved members under the My Invites page in Oink.

Again, just because things don't turn out for you on this thread doesn't mean other people haven't benefited.

Maybe you and "crabcigar" can have a pow-wow.

I wish you luck in joining the web's most exclusive music community.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Oink Administrator,"

What is your explanation for how at least two people "received" invites without having ever having submitted an application?

Thank you,

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Ridan Krad,"

I have no record of either "Confounded" or "chaki" receiving invites. Why would someone who received an invite return to this thread?

Clearly there are people posting falsehoods on the thread -- I don't approve every single message.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Ridan Krad,"

I am actually starting to like you, because you seem more conscientious than most.

I only wish your application had been a little stronger.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Oink Administrator,"

You may not approve every single message, but as I already noted previously, earlier on the following was said:

chaki: "Got my invite today! Thanks!"

Oink Administrator: ":):) That's great news chaki! Welcome to our community! :):)"

Isn't it rather odd that you, the one sending these invites and approving people, would not notice that chaki was not actually approved nor had he actually even submitted an application and instead just matter-of-factly send a welcome message? Indeed, isn't it even more odd that chaki could even receive an invite when the invite system is reportedly "broken"?

Thank you,

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 12:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Oink Administrator,"

I am actually starting to wonder if you even know someone in Oink, let alone are a member or, god forbid, an administrator.

I only wish you were actually at least a member so you could send out invites to the skeptics as a reward for our attention to detail. Alas, you yourself aren't even a member of Oink. I wish you luck in joining the web's most exclusive music community.

Thank you,

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Ridan Krad,"

I hear Dateline NBC is hiring.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "Oink Administrator,"

I'm not interested.

Thank you,

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.kschung.com/images/cool_guy.jpg

Confounded, Monday, 16 April 2007 13:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey admins,

I posted last Friday (the 13th), and am wondering if I would have heard of an invite by now, if approved. Just curious since I don't know the process. I've got a tremendous collection and I'd love to share it.

a) binaryan
b) ryan
c) 24
d) m
e) washington, dc

binaryan, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "binayran,"

You were not approved.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 14:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hi,

Just wanted to say thanks again for the invite and accepting me into the community. One small request, if there is any way to muzzle that impostor guy from pretending to be me, it would be much appreciated.

RichyGtwo, Monday, 16 April 2007 15:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

^Shhhh....

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 15:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Do you understand that this is the account from which the application was submitted...?

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 15:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "RichyGtwo,"

Thanks for your contributions to Oink! I will see to it that the imposter is silenced.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 15:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

I posted last Friday (the 13th)

see, that was your problem right there

jergïns, Monday, 16 April 2007 15:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear applicants,

Obviously, we take a very good-humoured approach to all this stuff!

Tee hee hee.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 15:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thanks for the invite, Oink Admin. It took me a week or so to learn how bit torrent works, but now I'm discovering all kinds of new music.

If I were in your shoes, I'd be a little nicer to all these RichyG's and Ridans; they deserve invites too. But its your Oink, you can ban if you want to, lol lol. :) :) :)

Maybe once I earn a few invites myself, I'll come back here to post them!

Anthony Michael Samson, Monday, 16 April 2007 18:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin your full of it if you are really taking RichyGtwo's side.

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 22:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

No offense, but I put perfect logic out there proving RichyGtwo is an imposter, I don't understand whats going on.

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 22:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Richy G-

I really don't see how this is so hard for you to comprehend. I have sent you TWO invites now, and you are still on a public forum making a scene.

I am going to send ONE MORE invite to Richy✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧ just to make this problem go away. (I guess sometimes the squeaky wheel gets the grease!)

Please use this invite wisely and maintain a respectible ratio. Also, be sure to check out the Garth Brooks re-edits that Confounded uploaded last week-- a real treat!

-Oink Admin

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 23:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

You're a funny guy, Oink Administrator. I love how you just acknowledged Confounded as a member of Oink just 10 hours after saying you have no record of him receiving an invite. You're so blatantly lying, yet people continue to believe you anyway.

You're my new hero. Keep up the good work!

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 23:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

Did you already send it?

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 23:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yes, RichyG. He has sent three invites to Richy&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;@gm&#10023;&#10023;&#10023;.c&#10023;&#10023;. It's a wonder you haven't managed to receive your invite yet.

Ridan Krad, Monday, 16 April 2007 23:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear Ridan Krad-

The feeling is mutual!

Yours,

Oink Admin

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 23:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ridan Krap OTM.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 16 April 2007 23:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

I GOT IT!!!! THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Geez theres everything here at OiNK thank you sooo much!!!!!!

RichyG, Monday, 16 April 2007 23:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Damn, Oink-A, with RichyG, who I presume is actually just some random guy who submitted an application having successfully received an invite (or at least saying as much), I don't know what to believe anymore. You've totally messed up my sense of reality. Bravo.

Ridan Krad, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 00:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=9a283ez2dp8.png

WOW! Ive been looking for a place to get a fast download for this!! Only thing is that I can't download it or it would kill my ratio so Im uploading some other things I have on my comp. GOD I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!!!

RichyG, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 00:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3972/9a283ez2dp8.png

RichyG, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 00:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.wimdelvoye.be/afc.html

sling_theory, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 02:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear Oink Administrator,

My image won't post, so I'll post a link to some hardcore oinkers.

http://www.wimdelvoye.be/afc.html

Sling_Theory

sling_theory, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hmmmm... that link didn't work, can you try again?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Urgghhh! Bad Day, I wonder if I screwed up the Cat Power link from my answers? It works from my machine...This Snowstorm in the NE-US has destroy all my hopes and ambitions.

http://www.wimdelvoye.be/afc.html

sling_theory, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Um, I dont know what you're doing, but its still not working.

Have you taken a good look at the Formatting Help below?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 03:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Don't believe this fellow, sling theory. I'd recommend that you do a bit of reading before you post an application, at least. Ridan Krad's made some great points, and our dear prepubescent 'admin' isn't man enough to admit when he's been caught out. I'm sure he'll tell you that I've been rejected, but go back and check whether or not he's even replied to my full and impeccably written (I kid) application. Either way, good luck, sling theory. The road to OiNK is beset on all sides by evils (Ezekiel 25:17, or Pulp Fiction). Good night, sling theory, and good night to all of you. Btw, myspace password admin, you're hilarious, a regular riot, if I may be so bold.

merzhin, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 04:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin has many personalities. Confounded, Sanskrit, Pablo...

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/1838/roflzxq2.png




so who are you now, Oink Administrator (RichyG)?

You guys should sign up to work for Google...I hear they're doing applications on this forum as well. Maybe you can snag a GMail invite!








lolz.

crabcigar, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 04:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

merzhin-

Your application was impeccably written.

You have been approved for membership.

Please maintain a respectible presence in our online community; indeed, the path to righteousness is beset on all sides by great evils.

Welcome, and God Bless.

-Oink A

PS- can you get sling_theory's link to work? Because it is just not showing up for me. I am really interested in seeing what is behind it.

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 04:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh, and I still love you guys; no hard feelings. I just don't know what to believe, but whether or not if this is a scam I can't even tell. These people are confusing me and I want to crack down the mystery of the missing cupcake.



With all due respect,
Crab Cigar Esq.

crabcigar, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 05:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

What was wrong with my application, Oink Administrator? Don't you like me anymore?

Ridan Krad, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 08:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

You guys should sign up to work for Google...I hear they're doing applications on this forum as well. Maybe you can snag a GMail invite!

lolz indeed!!!

Confounded, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 09:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear Oink Applicants,

http://www.cybercrime.gov/kuonenPlea.pdf

Hugs 'n kisses xoxoxo

modestmickey, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) bisto_ie
b) ciaran
c) 23
d) male
e) Dublin, Ireland


1) The Bird And the Bee - The Bird And the Bee,
Au Revoir Simone - The Bird of Music,
Ratatat - Classics

2) Rockism is real music. It is the blood and sweat put into a musical effort.
It is possibly more of a state of mind for musicians and music lovers. The experience of music that is produced and recieved can bring out the best in people. Though the opposite can also be said of certain types of music and its lack of authenticity and emotion. The musical experience being a subjective one is so wide and diverse that it should not be stuck in one genre or mind frame but explored, pushed and challenged. If it is not, it will become stagment and fade away. We have seen this in much of the musical trends that pass through the public conscience over the years.

3) http://www.nme.com/images/62_cat_power_131005_L.jpg

4) Both Sufjan Stevens and Deerhoof have their good qualities, but i do know which one i prefere.
Deerhoof has the possibly rawest sound of the two, but what Stevens looses in volume he makes up for in the sheer beauty of his songs. The references to faith that some people seem to find a major factor is not something that i spend to much time dweling on. I feel the songs and music speak for themselves and that the lyrical content is a subjective experience. One that people should try.
Deerhoof on the other hand while still creating fantastic music, hasnt been as much of an exciting experience as Stevens. This isnt to say that everyone shouldnt take the time to listen to both. They are both worthwhile experiences.

5) Just the one, that would be perfect.

bisto_ie, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 17:41 (ten years ago) Permalink

Yea, Oink Admin, why dont you tell us what your username on oink is eh?

tohms19, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 21:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

so how is the invite system working now? I'm dying here:P

tobb3, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 21:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

@tohms19: without an invite, what good would it do you?

@tobb3: Hi! What's new???

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 22:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

what do you mean what good would it do me? At least you finally responded after I posted 4 times. In other news, I don't believe that you actually are a part of the Oink community, otherwise you would not be hesitant to reveal your username.

tohms19, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 22:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Also, I happen to already be a part of the Oink community (as of about 8 hours ago).

tohms19, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 23:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Welcome!

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 23:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

pwn

Confounded, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 23:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

WOW! Ive been looking for a place to get a fast download for this!! Only thing is that I can't download it or it would kill my ratio so Im uploading some other things I have on my comp. GOD I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!!!

-- RichyG, Tuesday, April 17, 2007 12:28 AM (23 hours ago)


Hey RichyG impostor dude,

We've had our fights in the past, but I'd like to cease the beef. Look, I'm glad you're now part of the Oink Community. Send me a PM next time you're online, and I'll hook you up with some dope azz Uffie tracks. Feeling a little bit guilty about all this.

One Love,
RichyG

RichyGtwo, Tuesday, 17 April 2007 23:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://blogs.usyd.edu.au/bizart/Wim.jpg

sling_theory, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 03:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

In my imagination, Oink rocks this much...The Tattooed Pigs are alive and well on a farm in China. They're part of an on-going project by artist Wim Delvoye.

http://challenge.visualessence.nl/C514241107/E20060226153838/Media/M_050929_delvoye_varken3_a.jpg

sling_theory, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 03:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) ralphie
b) ralph
c) 27
d) male
e) rotterdam


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

TURBO TRANCE 2007!
Bruce Stringstein Complete Discography
Lost S03e16 'Left Behind'

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Boring thing boring people talk about!

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

I cant find the pic of her vagina hair so i not post 1

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

they are both AWFUL. I read on website SSTYLUS that sufjan stephens is a christian. i am a satanist. we don't get along! Deerhoof, bad two. No oriental caterwall please!

5) How many invites do you require?

1 or two:)

ralph, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 08:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "ralphie,"

Really now... everyone else has to follow the rules but you? Surely satanism has taught you a thing or two about following authority, no? We are the higher authority now, and your application is slipshod!

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 14:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

does i get in?

ralph, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 14:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

still waiting here...

ender, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 14:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

So admin, why do you hesitate to give me your oink username. If you can tell me it, then we can find a way to prove that you are actually part of oink. Im still heavily inclined to believe this entire site is a hoax...

tohms19, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 15:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "tohms19,"

You are a dreamer -- I like that!

Please don't be bitter that you weren't selected to receive an invite.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 15:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

hahahaha, Im already in Oink, so Ill be able to check your user profile. Why dont you tell us all what it is...hmmm, unless you dont have one?

tohms19, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 15:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "tohms19,"

You could certainly check my user profile, except I only share it within Oink.

I would advise you to do the same.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 15:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

okay, if wasnt part of oink, i wouldnt be able to see it anyway, so what difference does it make.

tohms19, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 15:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "tohms19,"

What was your location on the Virginia Tech campus on the morning of April 16?

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 15:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "tohms19,"

No alibi. That's what I thought.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink, Have'nt heard about I've been accepted or not.
Username: mrosenberg42

mrosenberg42, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 16:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

nothing new, yet, admin still waiting:*(

tobb3, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

This is a hoax people!! I hope you can tell that from my conversation with the admin. As for an alibi, I was not even in Virginia that morning, and it would have take many hours for me to get there.

tohms19, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 17:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear "tohms19,"

Jealousy is a most ugly condition.

Thank you,

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 18:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobb-

You're in!

We sent you an invite!

Congrats!

-Oink A

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

mrosenberg42-

you were not approved, but you may re-apply in 30 days.

Good Luck!

-Oink A

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

Just wondering whether or not I was accepted.
I was never informed.
Thank you.

xryanwk, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey Oink Admins!

I posted a while ago, originally as fat-latvian and then as recspecs81. I was told that I was accepted but then got no email at either of those email addresses.

Soooo, my question is: am I really accepted? rejected? wasting my time?

Thanks for any help you can offer!
-Dave (a.k.a. fat-latvian and recspecs81)

recspecs81, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 19:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

I thought I told you to stop using that offensive handle.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

xryanwk-

Your application was rejected.

Posting a picture of Britney Spears in place of the required Cat Power picture is not a funny joke. You clearly are not ready for the responsibilities associated with oink account ownership.

-Oinks

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 20:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

what email did u send it to? cause it's note on my mail (tobb3satgmaildotcom) and plz i'm not trying to get one extra invite..

thx - tobb3

tobb3, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Did you check your spam folder? They get stuck in there sometimes.

Best of luck.

-Oink

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 18 April 2007 22:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hahaha, how am I jealous. Search my username on Oink and youll find that I am already a part of Oink. Needless to say, it is no wonder that so many "accepted" people post here again about not receiving emails with invites. All of the "success" stories are the oink admin logging in as different users.

tohms19, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

Im not a different user and he sent me an invite

RichyG, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh okay, well then whats your username on oink?

tohms19, Thursday, 19 April 2007 02:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

You should refrain from posting such images directly and instead simply give links because now I cant access this forum from any public places.

tohms19, Thursday, 19 April 2007 06:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

I never posted a picture of Britney Spears. Perhaps you got my post confused with another's. My picture of Cat Power is a picture of Cat Power. Feel free to check again.
So, after clearing that up.. I'm wondering if the status of my request could be changed? I believe my essays were well written and I followed the provided instructions.

Thanks,
Ryan

xryanwk, Thursday, 19 April 2007 09:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

Nope my spamfilter didm't catch it either:(:(:( man dis seems to be hard:P
now it's time for Lost, I hope we can solve this some way:)

thx in advance

tobb3, Thursday, 19 April 2007 15:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

You should refrain from posting such images directly and instead simply give links because now I cant access this forum from any public places.

-- tohms19, Thursday, 19 April 2007 06:23 (13 hours ago)


A Shame.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

xryanwk-

Please stop with all the joking. Oink Invites are very serious business.

You are rejected and may re-apply in 30 days with a geniune picture of Cat Power.

Thank you for your understanding.

-Oink Addy

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

tobb-

WTF w/ that parachute lady??!?!?!?!?!

g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 19 April 2007 19:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

what can I say, I have to hand it to you "Oink Admin," RickyG is in fact a part of Oink as of a few days ago, so it seems this place may not be hoax after all (or your just real good). That said I still dont understand why you are leaving all of these "accepted" people hanging. None of the transactions ive made have ever had this problem.

tohms19, Friday, 20 April 2007 00:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) mazzic411
b) Ryan
c) 24
d) male
e) new jersey, us

1) lukid - onandon, isan - plans drawn in pencil, bonnie prince billy - i see a darkness

2) Rockism is, much like buddhism or taoism, a complete faith in the guiding light and purpose that music can offer us. Whereas prayer, sacrifice or repentance are part of other faiths, so too do we give all we have and devote our lives to the pursuit of the next great track or album to provide us sustinance and balance. True followers of rockism live each moment for their belief and find constant salvage in it. Music complements and enhances each moment of our lives and provides a type of fulfillment which is left empty by all other facets of life. The ipod is our bible, shows are our sermons and torrent sites give us new enlightenment like moses bringing down new commandments from mt. zion. I recall my rockmitzvah, listening to the likes of nirvana, pearl jam, op ivy and nofx, feeling the joyous power of rock and have never looked back since. Rock sustains us, guides us, and gives meaning to our lives. We, the followers of rockism.

3) havent seen a lot of pics but this is a good one:
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/images/artist/c/cat_power/az_official/281x211.jpg

4) While I can certainly appreciate the output of put I have to say that Sufjan takes it. First of all I feel like his voice is much more palateable and his lyrics are much better. First of all they actually have a universal meaning and story-telling quality and paint aural pictures rather than just spouting random weird lyrics. Second of all, he is such a master of orchestration and his arrangements and melodies are so concise and comforting as well as classic. A lot of his stuff is like a folky pet sounds or beatles type thing which I have always liked. Finally, he plays so many instruments himself. Playing nearly all instruments on the album himself and coming up with unique production and recording techniques is the true sign of an artist and has and will serve him for the duration of his career. While deerhoof have done some interesting things with rock and a new-prog type thing they just arent as proven or precise or anything as Stevens...come on now.
5) jus 1

mazzic411, Friday, 20 April 2007 01:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Perhaps the creepiest thing about Goatse is that the man wears a wedding ring.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 20 April 2007 01:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin, never stop the ownage

Confounded, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

g®&#9650;Ð&#1201;, yeah wtf was dat!?! always new twists in this show..i wonder how it's gonna end:P

tobb3, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: Pixi5747
b) first name: Kristen
c) age: 20
d) gender: Female
e) geographic location: Silver Spring, Maryland


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week:
Ween: Chocolate and Cheese
Bob Marley: Legend
Primus: Frizzle Fry

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum).

Rockism recognizes the music there is in humanity, and our ability to produce it. There is a very strong connection between our primitive nature and music, so much so that it flows out of humans from the rythm in their bones and each breath that is taken. In its simplist form is the enjoyment of music for music's sake. It is an ideal that seeks to explain how music and its production play a critical role in our everyday lives, so much that it actually causes people to physically move. When given the oppertunity to take the time to recognize the intimate and complex connections between the producer of music, the sound itself, and those who interprate the music, one should be humbled in the face of rythm. Depending on one's position on their journey of discovering themselves in relation to the sounds they hear, different revelations occur which cause indivuals to seek and discover different genres and find what they enjoy. No one type of music should be criticized, for one man's trash is another's treasure. I can admit as a child I once loved N'Sync and Brittany Spears, without whom, I would not have had the foundation which brought me to my understanding of music today, which my libriary is mostly compsed of the illest jam bands. Although I do not particulary care for these artists now, and cannot beleive how agregious the effects pop culture has had on America, I will by no means dismiss what they have to offer because in and of its self is a piece that will have some impact on those who are exposed to it, for better or worse. We can only thank those who produce and share thier music with pure intentions and postive messages which no one can disagree with, like Bob Marley, Michael Franti and Spearhead. These are the artists whose messages transcend all biases, and seek to unite the world's diverse population as one race of humans. Power to the Peaceful.

Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power:
http://www.gigwise.com/artists/00010494_cat-376.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Due to the influential nature of both Sufjan and Deerhoof, as well as their divergent backgrounds, and ways in which people are influenced by the music, I find it hard to choose who is better. It is hard to conclude from my juxtaposition of the artists, whom I am really not that familair with. From what I have gathered, they both have different impacts on their audiences and preform in a completely different manner from eachother. For example Sufjan Stevens applies more of a structured folk approach characterized and enriched with his ability to preform instrumentally and lyrically, while Deerhoof is unconventional and seemingly odd music may not make alot of sense to those who do not seek for a deeper meaning. Infact, instead of hearing lyrical metaphors that are more likley to come from Sufjan, Deerhoofs whole songs could be metaphors in and if themselves waiting for one to discover the actual deeper meaning in irreverent musical practices.

5) How many invites do you require?
One invite for myself, please.

Kford1, Friday, 20 April 2007 15:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

From what I have gathered, they both have different impacts on their audiences and preform in a completely different manner from eachother.

Are you sure about this?

Oink Administrator, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

g®&#9650;Ð&#1201;, yeah wtf was dat!?! always new twists in this show..i wonder how it's gonna end:P

-- tobb3, Friday, 20 April 2007 14:33 (2 hours ago)


i think its going to end with them all evolving into teleporting seal-like creatures.

g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 20 April 2007 16:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

is this lost thread or where to get oink invites?

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Friday, 20 April 2007 21:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

This is a thread 4 Oink Invites only.

Grady and tobb are both banned 30 days.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude &#8235;&#33540;&#34115; is granted three invites.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 20 April 2007 22:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't feel comftorable posting my username tohms
but just to prove he did send me an invite
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/1815/picture1zv5.png

RichyG, Saturday, 21 April 2007 01:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

"take that tohms 19" = 0WN3D!!

am0n, Saturday, 21 April 2007 05:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

"Torrents" "Good Torrents"

Pablo A, Saturday, 21 April 2007 08:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

That's great RichyG! Welcome to the Oink Community!

If you are able to manage your upload/download over the next month, check back here and we may even grant you invites for you to pass on to worthy individuals.

Oink, only the best in Indie.

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 21 April 2007 12:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh, and tohms19 just got royally sonned.

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 21 April 2007 12:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

Are you trying to insult me or something Pablo? Go mow my lawn.
But Oink Amin that sounds like a plan! Thanks agan for inviting me I appreciate it so much!

RichyG, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh wait sorry tohms i didn't see this post you made

what can I say, I have to hand it to you "Oink Admin," RickyG is in fact a part of Oink as of a few days ago, so it seems this place may not be hoax after all (or your just real good). That said I still dont understand why you are leaving all of these "accepted" people hanging. None of the transactions ive made have ever had this problem.

*Takes back some of the diss-ness of picture*

RichyG, Saturday, 21 April 2007 13:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) marine_distance
b) Vanessa
c) 30
d) F
e) Mexico City, Mexico


1)
- decpetikon, birds of cascadia
- eluvium. copia
- daisuke miyatani. dario

2) rockism? British term that refers to the level of authenticity in popular (pop) music. It is a purist movement which believes that at one point music has reached its pureststate of expression. All subsecuent styles of music and technologies used to produce these styles will have resulted in a loss of authenticity, and that some kinds of new musical expression are nothing more than merchandising.
Rockism critics observe the following ideas: The use of synthesizers or other such digital media instruments are questioned for their authenticity, as they would tend to give the music a prefabricated feeling. Composer and Songwriting skills are taken into account as indicative of the quality of the musical production process. "Design" of the product is taken into account, i.e., it is more a merchandising product, or is it a unique creative expression.
Rockism critics are searching, as all critics do, for a certain purification or reduction of judgement to one single line of thought (western science teaches there must be only one origin to one thing). Problems with this or any kind of criticism arise when the reader or the critic him/herself questions the authenticity of his/her OWN judgement, that is, how does one conclude that one's own judgement is in fact authentic, and not biased or inadvertantly influenced by another idea (on whose judgement can we decide what is good music and what is not, what is authentic and what is not). The purity then, of "rockism" critiques would the be tainted, and lose value as a "dependable" source of criticism. The point to criticism is to make available other sources of thought and logic, then also the danger of critiques such as rockism or other music critiques is that they tend not to offer meaningful insight so much as offering simplistic views ("I dont like it bcause it talks about sex, I dont like it because its based all on samples of music which have been digitally mass produced, etc).

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://www.stefpix.com/archives/albums/chan/13_chan.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. It is like being asked to choose between apples and pears. Maybe the taste would be similar to some, but completely different to others. However, I would dare to state, trivial it may sound, that its not that Sufjan Stevens is better or worse, similar or dissimilar than Deerhoof, but simply different. Sufjan Stevens is different in a way that appeals to my particular sense of aesthetics. I do not dislike the clear musical influences that result in Deerhoofs eclectic style, but those of Sufjan Stevens evoke in me, because of the time and place that i was raised in, and my subsecuent choice in musical consumption. That being said, Sufjan Stevens style of expression, as per my taste, is a pleasantly surprising exprimentation in form and content of both musical structure/style, and creative expression in lyrics. I would not dare to make a comparison between the two, but only state that that afect that Sufjan's style has on me as an individual is that of contemplation and serenity and introspection and curiosity to hear what more he can think of. That in a nutshell, is great music to me, and that is what i search for in Sufjan Stevens music. It is quite an experience, and to find out whether or not another individual would agree to it, demands direct and personal experience.

5) How many invites do you require?
one please, for me :)

marine_distance, Saturday, 21 April 2007 15:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

pix plz, vanessa

am0n, Saturday, 21 April 2007 17:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

omg girl!! pix

RichyG, Sunday, 22 April 2007 02:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

okey admin...why didn't usay anything about this earlier..

tobb3, Sunday, 22 April 2007 09:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

we dont ask dudes for pix, tobb.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin,

I haven't heard anything about my status? I am an unfortunate soul as well?

Sling_Theory

sling_theory, Sunday, 22 April 2007 17:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

sling_theory,

i couldnt get those pictures to load. cant make a decision on your application until then.

Oink A

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 22 April 2007 18:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'd like to go on record as saying that even though I specifically noted THAT I DID NOT WANT AN INVITE in my application; I was sent one anyway. I don't have to use Oink, because people mail me free music all the time (I HAVE A BLOG; i can prove this) but I could use it if I wanted to.

I'm of the opinion that a great many of the people complaining on here are only trying to get an additional invite to sell IN A DIFFERENT AND NON-OINK SANCTIONED FORUM, which I think is just sad.

Shame on you opportunists and thanks to the administrators who work tirelessly without appreciation or renumeration.

I would also like to request one additional invite; my little brother would like to try the service, as he does not have a blog.

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 22 April 2007 22:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Many thanks for the kind words, Mr. Forkslovesbrofu. Request denied.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 23 April 2007 01:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Tough, but fair.

forksclovetofu, Monday, 23 April 2007 02:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin,

Thanks for the second shot at the image, writing my thesis paper right now, so my ability to type correctly has largely diminished.

3)Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.hi.is/~peturv/catpower.jpg

sling_theory, Monday, 23 April 2007 05:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

I sincerely hope you people aren't trying to cheat by using Google Image Search.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 23 April 2007 17:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Huh? This image from the archives of Slap Skateboarding Mag., I guess all images on this forum could be found on Google, if you looked around enough...

sling_theory, Monday, 23 April 2007 22:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin-

I posted a response to the necessary questions and I am waiting to see if i recieve an invitation to Oink. You had commented on one of my essays that I wrote concerning the differences between Deerhoof and Sufjan Stevens, in which i explained that I have never experienced these artits; and therefore, cannot conclusivly say which supreceeds the other, so no I am not sure weather or not one is better in my opnion. Additionally, others have written that they are divergent in forms and preformance, likening them to apples and pears. I suppose all music has the same impact in the simplest form of of dancing, but the emotions that are evoked from the sounds may be completely different, take for example heavey metal and gospel music. Furthermore, the dance preformed may be extremely different, considering mosh pitting and praising. Reguardless of this, what precautious do I need to take in order to be considered for an ivitation again?

Fondly,

Kford1

Kford1, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 17:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kford1-

BONUS QUESTION:

What is your take on Christian Heavy Metal? Is there a place for it in today's musical climate? What does Christian Heavy Metal mean to Christian Metalheads? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum).

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 18:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

Deerhoof and Sufjan Stevens, in which i explained that I have never experienced these artits

LUCKY!!

jergïns, Tuesday, 24 April 2007 19:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) borespoons
b) James
c) 25
d) Male
e) Vermont

1) Feist - The Reminder, Prodigy - Return of the Mac, Rick Danko - Self Titled (mp3s are 192 kbs, but sound quality is not pristine as it is a vinyl rip).

2) I'm unfamiliar with the term rockism, so I'll discuss its potential meaning within the context of my own passion for music. Rockism describes my obsession to always seek out and acquire new music. My happiness is predicated on the continued growth of my music collection. The viral corollary to my rockism disease is my need to share new music with friends. I find that most people are amenable to some musically transmitted disease swapping. However, sometimes I run into someone who is not interested in new music. My rockism does not allow me to understand these people. They may enjoy music, but are content with whatever happens to be playing so long as it is pleasant and innocuous. They are not driven to constantly seek out new musical experiences. These people are a different species from me. I can respect anyone's musical taste, so long they are serious and passionate about their music. That is rockism and it is independent of genre or taste.

3) http://cms.pitchforkmedia.com/images/image/24216.livedinbars.gif

4) To me, Sufjan is better than Deerhoof. However, I will qualify my response by noting that I have all of Sufjan's albums and none of Deerhoof's. I have not taken Deerhoof seriously. I downloaded their free song from Emusic and was unimpressed. I judged them quickly and harshly, but if someone whose taste I respected suggested that I give them another chance, I would be willing to give their albums a listen. There are many reasons to criticize Sufjan. I think the most potentially damning criticism relates to his seriousness bordering on pretension. I don't think I can make a reasoned argument that Sufjan isn't twee-pretentious to the point of inducing nausea. All I can say is that I have bought into the Sufjan project and enjoy most of his work a great deal. Therefore, I choose Sujan over Deerhoof.

5) One invite, please. borespoons at gmail dot com

borespoons, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 02:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

A) Saunders
B) Matt
C) 23
D) Male
F) North Carolina

1) Les Savy Fav - 3/5, Les Savy Fav - Inches, Les Savy Fav - Go Forth

2) Rockism refers to the fact that some musical artists are seemingly more true to the art form of rock than others. Artists that are overproduced often fall into this category, whether it be true or not. For example Lo-fi sound lends itself to a positive reception in rockism since all aspects of music creation is controlled by the artist. While it could be argued that Bjork most certainly is an auteur/artist, the rockism philosophy stands in opposition. The use of synths and computers transcends (or maybe ruins) the humanity of her art. There is also a bitter undertone to rockism. The philosophy is probably born out of the desire of critics for things to be like the old days - before someone could play their instrument poorly only to have the producer clean it up beyond recognition of their failure. Rockism, in this day and age, should probably adapt as the advent of computers has moved from simple cleanup to a whole new avenue of creative output.

3) Anyone who posted any picture other than this one is wrong: http://www.richardavedon.com/images/editorial2004/newyorker/catpower_full.jpg
http://www.richardavedon.com/images/editorial2004/newyorker/catpower_full.jpg

4) I would choose Deerhoof. Not to discount Sufjan's talent as a songwriter, composer, and musician. Deerhoof just has the intangible element of being much more fun. Sufjan has made fun music to be sure. In fact, I really love the album Enjoy Your Rabbit, but this is his only electronic and most non-traditional album. I come back to Deerhoof to find the fun and amazing hooks through all the noise. I smile a lot more when I listen to Deerhoof. Their transcendental feeling is greater. I would also rather see a girly, diminutive Japanese bassist sing than a boyish, diminutive Episcopalian (no offense to the church of england) multi-instrumentalist sing.

5) I would appreciate 2 invites.

skeet happening, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 04:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

THAT WA S THE CONCH PIC I WAS GOING POST

ralph, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 08:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Gentlemen, that Avedon picture of Chan (I've met her, therefore I use her first name) has already been submitted by prior applicants. We have made it explicitly clear that images could not be reused. Application denied.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 11:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

in case anyone would like to give me an invite, I would gladly accept one. Mainly because something in oink is linking to my band's website and I assume that our album leaked and wound up there; I'd just like to log in and see this for myself, though.

akm, Wednesday, 25 April 2007 20:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

"explicitly clear?" the guidelines do not state that pictures couldn't be repeats, and I haven't seen you say it until now. but for the record, I haven't seen anyone else use my picture.

atomsforpeace, Thursday, 26 April 2007 00:01 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh, hi, atomsforpeace! So how did your flirting with crabcigar go?

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 26 April 2007 00:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

oh you know... we got a small cottage in the countryside where I can be free to write my screenplays while she keeps a small flower garden and a pet rabbit named Belle that we rescued one dewy morning.

did feigning interest in her fishing trip get you any action?

atomsforpeace, Thursday, 26 April 2007 00:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Not to be a bitch - but "explicitly clear" apparently means not mentioning that rule at all in the first post, or does that mean the new rule was mentioned in one of the ~1000 responses?

Also, explicitly clear is redundant. Based on this redundancy I move that my application be reconsidered. Suggestion: you should change it to Jenny Lewis pictures since all the Cat Power ones have probably been used.

http://www.rilokiley.net/gallery/albums/shows/2005/0221/022105_09.jpg

skeet happening, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

I wasn't out for "action," and fuck you for saying that. I take my job very seriously, and I absolutely would not consider using it to get some "action" with one of our applicants. Go back to your precious little screenplays, sleazeball, and leave the decent folks in our community alone.

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 26 April 2007 01:53 (ten years ago) Permalink

For all of the sarcasm you use, you have an extremely hard time recognizing it.

atomsforpeace, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha i love when sarcasm meets sarcasm and no one understands

skeet happening, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:10 (ten years ago) Permalink

@skeet

I agree. It becomes hard to tell whether one of the smartasses actually got pissed off or if they're still just fucking around...

atomsforpeace, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

i'm pretty sure the admin was just messing around too... but then again maybe you ironically pointed his "reaction" out

skeet happening, Thursday, 26 April 2007 02:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

tanks 4 the mammaries

am0n, Thursday, 26 April 2007 03:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

The world may never know...

atomsforpeace, Thursday, 26 April 2007 04:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) animal chin
b) chris
c) 18
d) male
e) Bakersfield,California


1) El-P - i'll sleep when you're dead
Animal Collective - Feels
Quasimoto - the further adventure of lord quas

2)Rockism ideology to me takes away from the numerous forms of renaissance like genres of music today. It does not just pertain to rock and roll music but all forms of music. Music such as underground hip hop that can still achieve an originality to its music and do something different enough to catch your interest and reach popularity, embodies what rockism is against which is important. Hip Hop is able to sample music, similar to rock bands using synthesizers, and make good music. Despite the fact that they are not creating their own original scores or instumental sounds. Although there is nothing wrong with wanting to have music that follows rockism there needs to be music that does not in order to keep a balance. Sometimes music needs to follow a rockism path because sometimes the real instrumentals are distorted and ruined by use of all these new technological instruments and computers. In the end rockism is a great way to model music but music that does not can be just as entertaining.

3) [url][Removed Illegal Link]

4) I am not huge fan of sufjan stevens. I have tried to listen to his music numerous times and can never find something that really grabs my attention. Although i do not find the music of sufjan to be intolerable, i find it perfectly fine to listen but with me it just does not click. Deerhoof on the other hand i find to be a very good and entertaining band. I was lucky enough to see them at coachella and it was great. Their music is very catchy at times and can be relaxing for me as well. Usually anything that puts me at ease and can make me zone out for a little while is always welcomed by me and deerhoof does just that. With that said I am a much bigger fan of deerhoof than I am sufjan stevens soley based on connection not genre.

5) I only request one invite, thanks.
please send to:
ninjai✧✧✧@ya✧✧✧.c✧✧

animal chin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

here is my image again
http://www.matadorrecords.com/images/cat_power/catpower5a.gif

and my email is ninjai✧✧✧@ya✧✧✧.c✧✧

animal chin, Thursday, 26 April 2007 05:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

amon 8080

jergïns, Thursday, 26 April 2007 09:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

damn she could feed all of Darfur with those

▒█▄█ ▄▄ ▒█▄█, Thursday, 26 April 2007 11:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: babycig (i had this before but it lapsed during the winter holidays.)
b) first name (no surnames: sue
c) age: 24
d) gender: f
e) geographic location: nyc, usa

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://l.yimg.com/www.flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)ehhh. Deerhoof is ok. I haven't given Sufjan a chance bc all of my hippie friends are into him.

5) How many invites do you require?

babycig, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

here is the link to that cat power image
http://l.yimg.com/www.flickr.com/images/spaceball.gif

babycig, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

roble robble

Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 26 April 2007 17:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) themaskedyodeler
b) Ed
c) 24
d) Dude
e) Fayetteville, AR

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
Lubos Fiser - Valerie & Her Week of Wonders (VBR, Lame -h2)
Les Rallizes Denudes - High or Die bootleg, ripped from vinyl by me (VBR, Lame -h2)
Songs of Green Pheasant – Aerial Days (VBR, Lame -h2)

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
The central tenet of rockism is that authenticity is the (or at least a) key indicator of the quality of a piece of music/artist/genre/etc. (Leaving the difficulty of defining authenticity aside) I think that's rather silly. Take the blues for example. Robert Johnson's music is a more authentic take on the blues than Kenny Wayne Shepherd's because Johnson is black, from the Delta and long dead and Shepherd is a young white kid with long hair. Johnson's music is better than Shepherd's, but why? Well, the easy answer is because Johnson is authentic and Shepherd is not. But that is intellectually lazy. If you can't come up with a better reason than that to explain why Johnson is better than Shepherd you should turn in your rock critic card right now. Extend this argument and you get that rockism is just an intellectually lazy way to justify liking Prince but not Justin Timberlake.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/03/fightforjustice-kittydemedici.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)
I like Deerhoof better. I enjoy the music of both, to an extent. When I'm listening to it, I like it. I sometimes buy their CDs. But I rarely, if ever, find myself thinking "Hey, I should put on some Deerhoof/Sufjan Stevens right now". Their music doesn't stick with me. However, I find Deerhoof a rather fascinating band from an intellectual standpoint. I'm much more likely to end up thinking about Deerhoof than listening to them, but that's more than I can say about Sufjan. I never think about Sufjan. Even Sufjan's worst stuff is vaguely pleasant, which is a large par of the problem for me. When Deerhoof fuck up, it's always in an interesting way. Like the last track on their new album. It sucks, but at least it's not boring.

Also I hate the Jesus.

5) How many invites do you require?
1
Ed Corcoran, Thursday, 26 April 2007 22:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

interesting application... :D :D :D

Oink Administrator, Friday, 27 April 2007 00:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

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am0n, Friday, 27 April 2007 05:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas
b) Chris
c) 34
d) M
e) Hollywood


1)1-Abbey Road (Toshiba-EMI CP35-3016 Black Triangle)(FLAC)
2-No Thanks! The '70s Punk Rebellion (4 Disc Set)(224vbr)
3-Nashville Skyline (FLAC)

2) What is rockism?
I don't know if I'd call myself a rockist, I'm definitely more comfortable in the company of Peridotites and other Igneous types like myself, but I dated a shalestone in college.

Or....

If you can play it live, without loops, samples etc., and it's basically a 12 bar blues structure, it fits the tenets of Rockism.
For example, Beatles before Sgt. Peppers, Pink Floyd before The Man and the Journey = Rockism.
After said albums = not Rockism.
Oddly enough, Rage Against the Machine is 100% Rockist.
Thus the theory of Rockism.
This sentence is padding.
This is the eighth sentence.


3)http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/Reagunn/CatPower.jpg

Yeah, I know, Ed from Arkansas beat me to the joke, but I spent a good twenty minutes Googling the best Cat Power pic that I could find and I ain't starting over....besides, all the good REAL ones have been used.

4)I wouldn't know Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof if they collectively bit me in the ass.
Sorry, just not my thing, but I'll choose Deerhoof, just because it's a cool name.
Since I have nothing to say on this subject and I don't think you really care about my musical tastes I'll have to come up with something better to say that'll make me invite worthy.
I've got a 1.10 share at Demonoid with over 330gb uploaded in the last six months, my computer is always on, Azureus and Peerguardian are always running and there's an entire 120gb HD on this machine dedicated solely to seeding torrents.
Right now I'm seeding 85gb in 112 separate torrents, the oldest going all the way back to November '06, basically, I seed until the peers dry up.

5) One would be just fine, thank you.

Stiles, Friday, 27 April 2007 05:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

rockism is just an intellectually lazy way to justify liking Prince but not Justin Timberlake.

Good answer.
If you don't get an invite for that, then I declare Shenannigans!

Stiles, Friday, 27 April 2007 06:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hip Hop is able to sample music, similar to rock bands using synthesizers, and make good music.

I am feeling really good about this shit right here.

Confounded, Friday, 27 April 2007 07:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

HOW IS MZ APPLICTION?

ralph, Friday, 27 April 2007 08:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

U BANNED.

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 28 April 2007 22:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

I wouldn't know Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof if they collectively bit me in the ass.
Sorry, just not my thing, but I'll choose Deerhoof, just because it's a cool name.

Just out of interest, I decided to have a listen and it turns out that I actually would know Deerhoof if they bit me on the ass, I've seen them play a couple of times, just forgot their name.
So who's better?
Well, Sufjan, after a very brief cursory listen, sounds like Sam Beam on acid, so I dunno, is that a good thing?
Deerhoof, they sound like every single one of my friend's bands.
I ain't kidding, every time it's the same thing, "come see us play, we're like nothing else, totally original"...uh-huh.
Since it's been so long since I saw Deerhoof, they must be really old (like me) and if imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, then they win on influence alone.



See what I did there?
I have no f'ing clue what I'm talking about, but I came up with an opinion anyways, and I'm sticking with it.....USA! USA ! USA!

Stiles, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

Whaat?

Confounded, Sunday, 29 April 2007 07:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Pulling an uninformed opinion out of my ass like that just felt rather American of me.
We're good at that.

Stiles, Sunday, 29 April 2007 21:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

We are not here to offend people of any nationality, Stiles. This is not about America. Oink is about coming together as a world community, and drawing nationalistic lines is contrary to the spirit of this invite program. This is a warning.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 29 April 2007 21:39 (ten years ago) Permalink

Taken.

Stiles, Monday, 30 April 2007 03:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) TRG103
b) Thomas
c) 20
d) M
e) London, England


1) Gym Class Heroes - as Cruel as school children, Mark Ronson - Version, GTA Vice City Soundtrack

2) I must admit i had never heard of the term rockism until now, but i was actually familiar with the concept despite not knowing it's name. My music taste is predominantly of the hip-hop variety, so i often hear a lot of "it all sounds the same" and so on, basically dismissing it's originality in comparison to other music genres. Rockism seems to glorify "pure" music for lack of a better term. By pure music i mean that which is produced by conventional instruments and not aided by or indeed created entirely by modern technology. Hip-hop is a genre where this is common, and indeed the blatant use of older material is incorporated in many songs, and i think this sort of music is what goes against the concept of rockism. To me though i don't think it deters from the creativity of the artists in question, music is music to me no matter what instrument it's made with. I feel i've answered "do you agree with rockism" more than "what is rockism" here so hopefully it all ties in!

3) http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper344/stills/1m73o811.jpg

4) I'm not even going to pretend i know what i'm talking about here. I'm sure you can let me off researching both artists, and as i expected both are from America and as far as i know have yet to really make any impact over here. Perhaps they have made some sort of an impact to dedicated fans of minimalist music but as a follower of a very different genre i've failed to notice either of them. During my research i came across the fact that quite a number of Stevens' tracks have been featured on The OC. While i don't like to stereotype, i get a sort of image in my head now of the style of music he has (it's worth mentioning i'm trying to answer this without listening to either in advance, then checking to see if my assumptions were correct). Stevens seems to appeal to me more purely for the fact that he's a solo artist, meanwhile Deerhoof a sizeable list of former band members in their time. Again i'm just going on assumptions here but that screams out to me that perhaps they are not as successful as they would have hoped. So yeah Stevens to me just seems like the more complete artist, again this is only going by assumptions but it seemed better for me to do that than pretend i'm a fan of the two.

5) Just 1 for myself please - TRG103 at gmail dot com - if you need it!

TRG103, Monday, 30 April 2007 22:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin,

Am I a reject or a happy oinker?

sling_theory, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

1) baddudesben
2) Ben
3) 24
4) M
5) Los Angeles/SF

1) Cephalic Carnage – Xenosapien; OOIOO – Taiga; Elliott Smith – New Moon

2) Did you read that recent Keith Richards interview? The one where he snorted his father? Lost in the shuffle, in the midst of tawdry familial inhalation and Kate Moss references, was classic Rockism. Keef wanted to let us know that all music today is dogshit. In fact, all music made after 1979, qualifies as bonafide bullshit to the man [he may have a point]. He made a point of letting everyone know that the Artic Monkeys are posers. What are they posing as? White kids from England? What were the Stones posing as? Rockism is retarded.

3) [img] http://cdn.channel.aol.com/amgmusic/artists/pic200/drp400/p416/p41605ra4ma.jpg [/img/

4) I like Sufjan, but Deerhoof just does it for me. Greg Saunier is a GOD. I could write 80 pages about how amazing he is. And he loves ?uestlove! It doesn’t get any better than that. Add in the fact that Deerhoof songs just keep getting better and better and it’s a landslide. I may have a little bay area bias here too. Plus, I love the Curtains. So, I don’t know if Sufjan gets a fair fight.

5) Just one.

baddudesbenn, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

Denied.

Reapply in 30 days.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 30 April 2007 23:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

tawdry familial inhalation

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 02:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear oink administrator,
I am inquiring about my request form and whether or not my application was denied or accepted. Please respond whenever it's most convenient for you. Thank you.

animal chin, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 03:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Administrator

a) requested username Clarice
b) first name (no surnames) Maureen
c) age 60
d) gender F
e) geographic location Southern Ontario, Canada


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Spiderman 3 OST
Mandy Moore-Wild Hope
Bobby Valentino-Special Occasions

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is the integration of the old and the new music for me anyway. Its a system
going back to the 50's rock n roll artists with the forerunners like Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry and Jerry Lewis .
Singing and playing instruments to your own music you wrote. Integrate the basics from then to now and
your got Avril Lavigne writing her own music, playing the guitar and singing rock pop. Rockism you hate some
of it and you love some of it, each to their own. From the old rock n roll to mixed, adult, modern, punk, pop, just acoustic
music of playing the piano and an electric guitar in a rock band. Take the Ashlee and Jessica Simpson compared to
Melissa Ethridge and Janis Joplin. I find the later Rockists but them I am 60. I can variate between classic rock albums
to pop artists that have all the frills. Disco ruled, also Rock n roll . Its now Rap, Hip Hop, Pop. So many genres.
Rockism is a musical theory, a way at looking at music and differentiating individual musical talent.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

I am not too familiar with Cat Power. This one is good.

http://www.starpulse.com/Music/Cat_Power/gallery/CATPOWERMAT002/


4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Hmm Sufjan Stevens i like better than Deerhoof. Deerhoof sounds too synthetic and erratic. Where as Sufjan is a softer
musical arrangement music. Sufjan's tunes are alot smoother for my taste than Deerhoof. Deerhoof's instrumental background
is somewhat enjoyable. Deerhoof sounds like noisy rock metal. Its way out there, not for me. Sufjan sounds happier in his music.
He definately has more interesting lyrics and relaxing arrangements. Sufjan's tone is much softer giving his music a Magical effect
that lasts alot longer then Deerhoofs.

5) How many invites do you require?

Just one please and thanks

Clarice, Tuesday, 1 May 2007 08:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

So hey, you said I was denied, but I didn't get banned for life etc etc. Can I reapply? Did my Jenny Lewis picture not make up for the repetition of the Richard Avedon photo? Eh?

skeet happening, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 03:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

HOW IS MZ APPLCATION COMING

ralph, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 15:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

SUP RALPH

Lingbert, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ladies and Gentlemen of Oink-

I come to you with grave news. I have received some information which I must share with you on this public forum. It has come to my attention that "ralph" is actually working for the R1AA. He has been sent here by his superiors to learn more about the Oink application process and infiltrate it. If a mission like this were to ever be successful, it could mean the end of Oink as we know it. It is my hope that this day will never come.

TO EVERYONE: please do not give "ralph" and Oink invite. He will most likely return under a different login and we will notify you when he does so. Please use extreme caution when passing precious pink invites on to others you may not know so well.

Ralph has been banned from both Oink and this forum. Do not associate with him.

Thank you.

-Oink

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^Do not listen to this guy.^^^^^^

He is not an Oink administrator. He had an off-board beef with ralph and is trying to slander him in this forum.

Grady has been banned 60 days.

Ralph has been sent an invite. (we're sorry for all the confusion ralph." be sure that grady wont be around to bother you any more.)

-(the real) OINK a.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

THANK U OINK ADmin. i no theyre are a lot of disbelievrs on this thread and people who say it cant happen so i want to thank u from the bottom of my heart. and sometimes even when u say it people dont believe it so here take this GRADY and OTHER PEOPLE. SEE I HAVE FAX ON MY SIDE:

5. Grady
30 up, 54 down


A simpleton. Idiotic at best. Inbred moron.

You stupid Grady.
I hate you Grady.

SEE.

and also for other nonbelievers take this and put it up your OiNK pipe and smoke it

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7418/myoinksp8.th.jpg


i will oink all day and all night now!!!!! also i have not been bannd from this forum and never will be!!!

ralph, Thursday, 3 May 2007 10:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ralph is totally lying u guyz. See i never got banned. and he just got that image from a GIS.

HE IS WITH THE R1AA AND IS NOT 2B TRUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

yo chaki YSI me some ghostface plzzzzzz???

g®▲Ðұ, Thursday, 3 May 2007 22:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

wtf is ghostface pizza?

chaki, Friday, 4 May 2007 04:32 (ten years ago) Permalink

Has anybody other than me heard the new Cat Power yet? Honestly, I think it's the best thing she's ever done.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 4 May 2007 05:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

I haven't heard it yet! What does it sound like??

Lingbert, Friday, 4 May 2007 06:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

YSI?

Oink Administrator, Friday, 4 May 2007 12:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

P L Z Z Z

Confounded, Friday, 4 May 2007 15:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

thx everybody... I'll see u guys in my next life:)

tobb3, Friday, 4 May 2007 17:05 (ten years ago) Permalink

before you go tobb3:

tobb3 appreciation thread

chaki, Friday, 4 May 2007 17:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) anoushka
b) anoushka
c) 27
d) Female
e) North Carolina, USA


1) Logic Bomb - Sonic Algebra - Solstice Records - 2007 (VBR 192+)
Side Liner - Once Upon A Time - Cosmicleaf - 2007 (FLAC)
Entheogenic - Anahata - The Unmade Sound (VBR 192+)

2) The question "What is Rockism?" is very debatable, and open for individual interpretation. For Kelefa Sanneh, rockism is the aesthetic that defines itself by building barriers against what rock isn't. It means, he says, "idolizing the authentic old legend (or underground hero) while mocking the latest pop star; lionizing punk while barely tolerating disco; loving the live show and hating the music video." Rockism is treating rock music as the standard musical form, or the norm. In the rockist view, rock is the standard state of popular music: the kind to which everything else is compared. Rockism is an attitude about evaluating music. Rockism seems to do an exceptionally distressing job of maintaining genre boundaries. “Rockism” as a vocabulary, is often credited with growing out of the 60’s—Rolling Stone, Dylan, etc. The debate itself of "What is rockism" seemingly took shape in the 1980's. The interesting meaning about the word "rockism" is that it's not only rockist to love rock. Rockism can apply to different kinds of music.

3 http://www.celluloidandvinyl.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/smoking_cat_power.jpg

4) I have to be honest and say I hadn't heard of either artist, but then I poked around online and listened to some of the artist’s music on there. I really liked the track "Chi Tan First Guitar" by Deerhoof. The guitar and voices on it are really pretty. However, I found that most of Deerhoof's music just wasn't triggering any synaptic response for me. I loved the track "For the Windows. . ." by SufjanStevens, but I also liked what I heard of the avalanche. I'm going to have to go with liking SufjanStevens better. The style of music is more preferable to me. I also like his voice as well as the range of instruments in incorporates into his music. He seems to have a fresh perspective and a passion for all the emotion he is putting into his music.

5) One (1) invite would be fantastic. Thank you!

anoushka, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

HEY GRAYD why don't i search for somthing on oink, your choice, and we can seddle this, man 2 man

ralph, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

SHES A SEXY SMOKER I WISH I WERE THAT CIGRETTE

ralph, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

ALSO SHE CAN PUT THOSE BANGS IN MZ FACE ANYTIME

ralph, Friday, 4 May 2007 19:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

<i>I haven't heard it yet! What does it sound like??</i>

It's really sharp. She's kinda doing a bjork thing with her voice now that sounds kinda yodel-ly. One song has a guy crying in the background through the whole thing.

forksclovetofu, Friday, 4 May 2007 22:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

does he sound like ralph?

g®▲Ðұ, Friday, 4 May 2007 23:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

that sounds awesome forks! i bet it really resonates emotionally with you.

Lingbert, Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'd just like to say thanks to whoever on this board for my OiNK invite...and I'm puzzled that it wasn't from "Oink Admin". I've waited patiently and received it this morning and I am enthralled by the amount of music on the site. I'm still surprised to see that the people who were "accepted" are not listed as users on the site. What's going on?

http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/781/image1xl7.png

crabcigar, Saturday, 5 May 2007 01:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

Congratulations, cragcigar! Welcome to Oink!

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

sorry, craBcigar LOL!!!

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

hey crabcigar, have you been able to get a copy of the new cat power album from oink yet? from what forksclovetofu says, it sounds very emotionally resonant and poignant. i'm not on oink, or i'd oink myself a copy. do you think you could get me a copy if I post nice things about you on your appreciation thread?

Lingbert, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Fuck a cat power album, can you send me an invite? This application process is fishy.

g®▲Ðұ, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

lingbert - i'm afraid that the new album isn't on oink yet. it's already on the request list since february 19th though. i wonder where forksclovetofu got his.

crabcigar, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

i have invites, and no real friends...... who wants one?

Pablo A, Saturday, 5 May 2007 03:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

forksclovetofu has a blog, so I think he has access to things that regular people don't.

Lingbert, Saturday, 5 May 2007 04:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

crabcigar©®

am0n, Saturday, 5 May 2007 05:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

am0n, Saturday, 5 May 2007 05:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh™

Lingbert, Saturday, 5 May 2007 05:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

LOL "crabcigar"

am0n, Saturday, 5 May 2007 06:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

lol Pablo, that's like asking sharks in bloody water if they'd like a nibble of your sweet human flesh.

but yeah, I would.

atomsforpeace, Saturday, 5 May 2007 06:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

who the hell r u

Pablo A, Saturday, 5 May 2007 06:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

he wants to nibble on your sweet porcine invite

am0n, Saturday, 5 May 2007 06:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Please ignore atomsforpeace.

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 5 May 2007 06:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

grayd i searched for barbara streisand becuase i heard u like here and this is my results

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6842/babaranu0.th.jpg

i can downlaod u the movie albmu if u want

ralph, Saturday, 5 May 2007 10:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) MonsterZero
b) Mark
c) 25
d) Male
e) Montréal

1) The Germs (MIA) Anthology, Merzbow Box Set, Hillary Duff

2) ahem. Rockism is suspicious of the use of technology, from synthesizers to Pro Tools-style computer-based production systems. Rockism places value on the idea of the composer and performer as auteur; authentic music is composed as a sincere form of self-expression, and usually performed by those who composed it. This is as opposed to the notion of manufactured "pop" music, created in assembly line fashion by teams of hired record producers and technicians and performed by pop stars who have little input into the creative process, designed to appeal to a mass market and make profits rather than express authentic sentiments.

Rockism is a primitivist ideology; a subtext of rockism is that, at one time in history, they "got music right", and that all subsequent innovations have compromised this purity. (This golden age is often placed sometime during the 1960s or 1970s.) Critics of rockism assert that this vaunted "golden age" of pure, authentic music is a myth, and that popular music never was entirely free of the interference of commercialism, marketing and commodification.

Design critic and indie pop musician Nick Currie compared Rockism to the art movement of Stuckism, which holds (among other things) that artists who do not paint are not artists.

3) http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7207/344637529e0ab966d15bow5.th.jpg

4) Eh, depends on my mood. Generally listen to more deerhoof these days.

When I first started listening to both of them around the Apple O and Michigan time, I preferred Sufjan Stevens as Deerhoof was too out there for me. But my tastes have since expanded.

But also, I don't want to be one of those jerks who can't find the gumption to make a decision, so I'll have to say I'd rather go without sufjan than without deerhoof for the rest of my days. Which is saying quite a bit, because if Sufjan completes a record for every state I'd have to love him for the audacity of it.

Actually, no i wouldn't. Deerhoof. I like their innovations.

5) I REQUIRE ONE (1) INVITE! HEED MY CALL! Also, I have a massive music collection which I'd be willing to share. Mainly obscure I'd say, some 90000 songs.

MonsterZero, Saturday, 5 May 2007 11:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

hmm, after belatedly reading, "OK, everyone who is just plagiarizing the Wikipedia definition of Rockism (or slightly rewriting it) is banned. 180 day username ban and 180 day IP address ban. You know who you are.
-- Oink Administrator (sanskrit), Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:03 PM (3 months ago)", (and i thought i was being snarky and clever) i'd like to amend my 2nd answer to:

rockism:
R is for radical bias towards the traditional 2 guitars, drums, bass set up, playing straight up rock.
O is for old golden days of rock which are falsely purported to be the true rock sound and better than this gosh darn new fangled new rock.
C is for conventional and narrow definition of rock music.
K is for kicking bad habits like rockism.
I is for ignorance towards musical evolution.
S is for satanic.
M is for mwhere's my invite?

please, choose me.

MonsterZero, Saturday, 5 May 2007 11:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

no

ralph, Saturday, 5 May 2007 11:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

darn

MonsterZero, Saturday, 5 May 2007 11:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

language

am0n, Saturday, 5 May 2007 14:21 (ten years ago) Permalink

So there's this one track on the C.P. album I can't get enough of called 'Rugged'; it's the crying one. It starts out with a really angry rapper, this guest guy that she got called R.A. The Rugged Man. I dunno, he's really GANGSTA on it and then after a half minute or so, it starts fading out the rapping and fading in Cat Power singing really softly "Let the hurt go let the hurt go" and there's a slow and constant swelling of violin strings and the rapper gets quieter and quieter until eventually he's just sort of sobbing in the background and then he starts singing "let the hurt go" with Chan.

It's really intense. this might be her way of breaking through to the hip hop crowd? Best thing I've heard this quarter.

forksclovetofu, Saturday, 5 May 2007 17:16 (ten years ago) Permalink

YSI

Pablo A, Saturday, 5 May 2007 17:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

It's encrypted with "This copy of Forum belongs to [Your Name Here]" every two minutes, so I dare not.

forksclovetofu, Saturday, 5 May 2007 17:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey Oink Admin, just stopping by to thank you for the invite once again, i apreciate it so much

RichyG, Saturday, 5 May 2007 22:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

My pleasure, RichyG. You've been a valuable asset to our community.

Oink Administrator, Sunday, 6 May 2007 01:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5218/gggff7.png

um whut

crabcigar, Sunday, 6 May 2007 04:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

seed something richyg!!!

crabcigar, Sunday, 6 May 2007 04:43 (ten years ago) Permalink

I'm not even sure if this is still up for grabs but what the hell. I'm bored and this was kinda fun to fill out.

a) Positivx
b) Lisa
c) 34
d) Female
e) Washington USA


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week:

Amy Winehouse - Back to Black (320kbps)
Arcade Fire - Neon Bible (256kbps)
Jussi Syren Rockabilly Revival - Stayin On Top of the Beat


2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Basically it is like every other 'ism' in the way one would tend to be biased toward whatever word came before the 'ism'. In this case it's "Rock". Rockists would have you believe that modern forms of musical technology (i.e sampling and/or computer enhanced segments) would make one what we used to like to call "posers" back in the day. In simplest terms, not a real rocker. It's a sort of elitist attitude to take and I, myself, believe that any form of musical expression should be considered.

However, I do sort of agree with the notion that commercialism and marketing have destroyed heartfelt and authentic music. This is also one of the thoughts behind Rockism.


3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

[Removed Illegal Link]


4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

I, honestly, haven't been exposed to much Deerhoof so I don't feel I'm qualified to compare the two. However, I'm very much a huge fan of Sufjan. His words are thoughtful, witty and even whimsical. I think the sheer idea of planning a release for every US state is, in itself, a statement as to his originality even if it is ambitious. Listening to his music somehow invokes feelings of hope for me. Hope for what? I'm not really sure but when I hear Illinoise it's like I'm in a place where things are simple and good.

I was lucky enough to see a performance at the Sasquatch Festival here in Washington last year. It was simply wonderful and goofy at the same time.


5) How many invites do you require?

Just one.

6) More:

Thought I'd throw some extra stuff in here. Shameless plug if you will...
I'm currently a member of a few other popular-but-hard-to-get-into torrent sites and I maintain a respectable ratio at all of them (1.53 being my lowest and 4.18 being my highest).


Thanks for your time. =)

Positivx, Sunday, 6 May 2007 09:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Apparently my last post didn't like my link to Cat Power if that can EVEN be possible. So here is a new one:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4774/catpower72vh2.th.jpg

Positivx, Sunday, 6 May 2007 09:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

wtgay u broke the thread

am0n, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

Lisa, we're likely gonna need pix of you now to fix the bold issue.

forksclovetofu, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

my attempt to fix[/b] the thread.

MonsterZero, Sunday, 6 May 2007 14:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ya, I'm really sorry about that guys. It had something to do with the link that was removed. I searched frantically for an edit button after I saw what I had done. I knew then that I had officially failed at posting when I didn't find one. =(

@ am0n:

I suppose if a picture will make me look like less of a dope, then I can come up with one for ya. Stay tuned.

[/b] ? .... Ugh.

Positivx, Sunday, 6 May 2007 15:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

Apparently, I fail at reading as well. The above was @ forksclovetofu, not am0n. It's 8:30am and I haven't been to bed yet. I'm so tired...

Positivx, Sunday, 6 May 2007 15:37 (ten years ago) Permalink

did you go clubbing?

jergïns, Sunday, 6 May 2007 15:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

its ok i need to see a pic of u 2

am0n, Sunday, 6 May 2007 15:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

lol. Ya, I went out last night. It was Cinco De Mayo! Margaritas.... Yummm.

Positivx, Sunday, 6 May 2007 16:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

still waiting

am0n, Sunday, 6 May 2007 20:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

I just woke up. 4 hours sleep. I feel like poop.
am0n, if you must have pics, look up my username on Myspace. There are also sexy pics of my h-u-s-b-a-n-d for you to drool over. =P

Positivx, Sunday, 6 May 2007 21:25 (ten years ago) Permalink

Its true. There are.

Myspace Password Admin, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

Positivx-

We were very very very impressed with your application. Very.

However, there is no way we can issue you an invite until this bold typeface fiasco is resolved.

Regards,

-0ink Addy

Oink Administrator, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

*droools*

Myspace Password Admin, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

LOL! Sorry guys, his alternate Village People outfit was at the cleaners...


@ Oink Addy:

Thanks anyway, Sir. I only have myself to blame. ='( Would you believe that I'm a Web Designer, normally proficient with code?

Maybe an admin would be kind enough to fix my blunder.

Positivx, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

what is the alternate Village People outfit?

g®▲Ðұ, Monday, 7 May 2007 02:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

I think she's referring to the alternate 6th "backup" Village Person, Jasper Friedman, who would ofent cavort backstage in an assless NASA spacesuit.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:06 (ten years ago) Permalink

This...

http://popwatch.ew.com/photos/uncategorized/94247__village_l.jpg

Upper right hand corner.

Positivx, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Greetings Mr., Miss, Mrs.? Oink Admin!

I am not trying to speed up your decision process at all (I promise!) I just wanted to post here to make sure you did not forget about me.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed and hoping I passed! I would love so much to be a part of your Oink community. Many thanks for your time.

Kind regards,

anoushka

anoushka, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) sharas
b) Sarunas
c) 18
d) Male
e) Lithuania, Kretinga


1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week

Depeche mode - Music for the masses DTS-CD (1411kbps)
Depeche mode - Playing The Angel DTS-CD (1411kbps)
Tchaikovsky 1812 Overture DTS-DVD (1536kbps)

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is an ideology which borned in the beginning of eighties. It was formed by British

music press. The main idea of this is that some music genres (especially rock) and bands are

more original and more truthful than others. Rockists are against popular music which uses
sound synthesers or is digitally processed. They claim that music is form of self-expression and it
must freely come from artist's heart and creativity, but not from producers and sound engineers
labs on purpose to get bigger profits.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://stefanogiovannini.com/portfolios/catpowerpics/images/04-chan.JPG

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

I had never heard of them, so I downloaded few songs. It's hard even to compare them. When i listened to Deerhoof,
I imagined weird chicken who first time got a guitar in his hands. Sufjan Stevens reminded me the Coldplay, he is
calm and concentrated and made better impressions than Deerhoof. So I stand for Sufjan Stevens

5) How many invites do you require?

Only one

P.S. Sorry for bad english.

Thank you for your attention.

sharas, Monday, 7 May 2007 09:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear Oink Administrator,

Happy Monday!

I just wanted to add that I very much appreciate your request to have us Oink hopefuls write about rockism. I was not familiar with rockism before filling out this application, and since I have become very intrigued with the term. I love all kinds of music, including electronic, and just last night a friend of mine brought up an interesting point about how these days he is always hearing kids into electronic music (DJ's and such) talk about how they want to be a "rockstar". It made me think about rockism, and I was able to explain this phenomenon in correlation to that term. Anyway, I just thought that was interesting and fun. I wanted to thank you for enlightening me to that! :)

Cheers mate!

~anoushka

anoushka, Monday, 7 May 2007 14:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

OMG WTF ROFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/4604/oinklv9.png

Confounded, Monday, 7 May 2007 14:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

Thank jeebus. I got a mod to fix this thread. The bolder blunder is no more! Soooooo, Oink Addy... =P

Actually, I was lucky enough to get a friend to get me an invite so I no longer need your admin services.

Don't despair! You're still valuable as I am in constant need of your wit and memory bank of useless information. (i.e 6th "backup" Village Person, Jasper Friedman, who would often cavort backstage in an assless NASA spacesuit)

Regards
- Posi

Positivx, Monday, 7 May 2007 14:35 (ten years ago) Permalink

We would like to see areola!!

Confounded, Monday, 7 May 2007 15:29 (ten years ago) Permalink

Get on that am0n!

Positivx, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 03:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

wow forks, do women send you pix of their nipples because you have a blog?

Lingbert, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 04:00 (ten years ago) Permalink

Mostly it's just She Wants Revenge promo discs, but yes, occasionally.

forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 04:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

Areola image brought to you by http://www.smudge-free.co.uk

Confounded, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

http://www.smudge-free.co.uk/procedures/areola/

Confounded, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 09:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

hey forks can you YSI me some nips?

g®▲Ðұ, Tuesday, 8 May 2007 22:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

great blog, admin cool boy.

g®▲Ðұ, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 00:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

I dont know if there are anymore invites left becuase this board dosent show all the messages but heres a go at it.

a) klutz642
b) John
c)18
d)male
e)Pennsylvania United States

1) Name three shared albums (+192kbps only) that others have successfully downloaded from you in the past week
Jeff Buckley- Grace
Beatles- Sgt. Peppers Lonley Heart Clubs Band
Ted Leo and the Pharmacists - Shake the Sheets

2) What is rockism? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Rockism is a philosphy on music that says music should be real. Music shouldn't be like some pop singers are where they dont have insturments or even write there own songs. A Rockist would enjoy bands like The Beatles who music ment something. They want you to write your own songs and have it come from the heart and not what some producer thinks will sell records. Rockism is a guitar and some drums and playin real music.

3) http://www.justunderthesurface.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/chan_marshal.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens in my opinion is the better artist. I am not a fan of the deerhoof style of music. I like the more mellow Stevens. Deerhoof is music is hard to explain its kinda trippy is the only way I can put it. Sufjan also has much better vocals then deerhoofs singer . Sufjan sound seems much more polished then the songs i have hear from deerhoof which to the tell the truth is only about 5 songs but with that said thats all i really want to hear. Also i have to give it to Sufjan Stevens again for having the balls to say hes going to make a CD for every state. If he pulls that off it will be impressive.

5) How many invites do you require?

Just one for myself thank you

fornicate, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 01:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

We would like to see areola!!

-- Confounded, Monday, May 7, 2007 11:29 AM (Yesterday)

Get on that am0n!

-- Positivx, Monday, May 7, 2007 11:03 PM (Yesterday)


get on your areola??? OK

am0n, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 01:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

fornicate-

is that eight sentances in your rockism essay?

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 01:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) igigfufu
b) Michael
c) 23
d) Male
e) California

1) Pillows – Penalty Life; Kooks – Inside In/Inside Out; Goldfinger – Stomping Ground

2) Rockism is the ideology of some popular music is more authentic than others. Originating from the British press in the early 1980s; Rockism is suspicious of the use of non traditional instrumental equipment. This includes both physical and spiritual properties used in the creation of music. Synthesizers and “Easy-Make” tools are frowned upon. The same applies to to “manufactured pop music.” Rocksim proponents argue that such music is created on assembly lines by hired record producers; thus creating soulless and inferior music. Subsequently, all commercialized music is regarded as impure. As stated earlier, this applies to all music, not just rock itself. One may be “Rockist,” yet express a genuine passion for R&B in a “rockist” style. A noted subtext of Rockism states that, at one point in time, “They got it right.” Rockists cite a period of time (generally accepted as the 1960sor 1970s) in which music was in its purest form; namely rock. Although there are many ways to define Rockism, meaning there is no absolute interpretation of it, the overall premise is rock is the norm of popular music.

3) http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/cat_power_chanel.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. Although Deerhoof is interesting as well, I find the music difficult to get in touch with. Sufjan Stevens speaks with heart and soul; this is portrayed through both his usage of sound and lyrics. In addition to this, he ventures into the use of various sounds and playing styles with his music. Although the same is true (if not to a greater extent) for Deerhoof; the music feels more like a collage or cut and paste operation of various sounds. Whereas these new and unique sounds may please the ears of some, I find it troublesome. The music is all over the place, and therefore, retains a minimal amount of passion. Although I prefer Sufjan Stevens; both artists are unique and fantastic in their own way. In the end, however, the eye-opening lyrics of Sufjan Stevens topple the whimsical tunes of Deerhoof.

5) 1
whattheho✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much Thanks!

igigfufu, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

I don't know why my email was blocked like that; nevertheless, here it is again

whattheho✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much Thanks!

igigfufu, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hmm, I'm confounded as to why it keeps blocking my email; however, here is an alternative one

jagex7✧✧✧@ya✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much thanks!

igigfufu, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

I deeply apologize for the extra posts,

what the holy f at gmail dot com (all one word)

Sorry about all that,and much thanks again!

igigfufu, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 03:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Is this still on? I can't believe it! It's not even funny anymore!

RichyG is a member of oink(crabcigar, you are not searching at the right place), but that doesn't make anyone an oink administrator.

RichyG, on your profile says "Invited by:" and a name next to it..
Can you please tell us that name?

dthemora, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 07:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

(I)not even funny anymore!(/i)

BETTER THAN NEVER BEING FUNNY AKA YOU

ralph, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 09:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

dthemora: genius of oink

Confounded, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 09:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oh.. Keep wasting your time.. Who cares?

dthemora, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 10:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

We would like to see areola!!

-- Confounded, Monday, May 7, 2007 10:29 AM (Yesterday)

Confounded, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 11:09 (ten years ago) Permalink

0wned by ralph

am0n, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 13:34 (ten years ago) Permalink

Just as music can be found in nature, through the song of the whales, indeed there too can be Christian Heavy Metal in today's musical climate. As long as there is an audience to receive the sounds, there will can be any kind of music. Although, I imagine in would be very difficult to synthesize the two extremes of heavy metal, which is often thought of as dark and negative, and Christianity, which holds Christ as the light of humanity. Essentially, these two factors seem to balance each other out. For one to successfully implement positive religious lyrics in a song that has dark and dreary overtones sends a message to me that even through the darkness in the heavy metal music there can be light, which can be made analogous to Christ illuminating the darkness of the world for all to see, it depends on one's interpretation and experience of the music at hand. I wonder if there is mosh pitting at these types of concerts?, that would seem rather hypocritical concerning the messages the Church sends, however, judge not lest you be judged in terms of practicing religion. Apparently there is still room for the oddity of Opus Dei in today's religious climate, so why not Christian Heavy Metal in the music spectrum? One may question if the words are screamed and sound angry, will it change the innate message of the song? I do not believe so, because words, regardless of how they are spoken, can only be backed with right action. If the bands adhere to the doctrine of their religion and are true to their intention as musicians, then I believe they can be classified as such. Take for example, South Park, when Cartman attempts to form the Christian Rock Band, Faith + 1. Although his audience received his "religious" message (even though it was satirized by trey and matt, haha "I want to get down on my knees and please you Jesus") and he won his myrrh record (which he then rejected and lost his followers), his intention was not to create music for its own sake and to praise God, but to receive monetary gain. Any band in any genre, not just Christian Heavy Metal, that follows Cartman's path is not staying true to the purpose of music, and I believe there is no place for bands like that in today's musical climate; however, we may never know what one's intention is throughout the duration of their career. Because I am not a Christian Metal Head, it is hard for me to define what Christian Metal means to one who likes it so much to consider themselves a head. I can assume that in general terms it is just like any other experience one has between ones self and ones religion, using music to connect one to the other in the form of praise, which in this case may seem a little angrier. There must be some sort of successful connection made between the audience and God using Heavy Metal as the mediator because people to continue their indulgence in Christian Heavy Metal. Music that allows a religious experience will be different for many different kinds of people depending on their background. You can hear the indigenous differences between religious music and even the instruments used of those who practice Judaism and those who practice Christianity. Traditional Christian Music is rooted in western classical and opera sounding music. Today's generation has a tendency to rebell against these traditions, which probably insighted the heavy death metal genre to begin with. For one to inversely use this form of rebellion to bring people, especially those of youth, back to Christianity is fascinating, and indeed must to fit some where in today's spectrum or musical climate.

As Michael Franti Would Say

Everyone Deserves Music
Sweet Music
Even the quite ones in our family
They deserve music

Not just the rich, but the everyday folk
Not just the men, but the women folk
Not just the straight, but they gay and freaky people too
Not just the white folk, but the black, grey, yellow, and blue

Even the sad ones, the lonely ones, they happy ones ain’t the only ones
Everyone deserves music.

Indeed this too includes the Christian Metal Heads.

Kford1, Wednesday, 9 May 2007 15:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

where did you plagarize that from?

Oink Administrator, Thursday, 10 May 2007 21:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

&#305; neeed oink &#305;nv&#305;te please sen me :D mert✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧
username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

babamert, Friday, 11 May 2007 16:04 (ten years ago) Permalink

username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

mertpao [at] gmail .com

babamert, Friday, 11 May 2007 16:11 (ten years ago) Permalink

babamert has been sent two (2) invites.

Oink Administrator, Friday, 11 May 2007 17:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username - sirdropsalot8293
b) first name - Dan
c) age - 20
d) gender - male
e) geographic location - London, UK

1 invite needed please!

email: s0569✧✧✧@s✧✧.e✧.a✧.u✧

thank you lovely people.

Sirdropsalot, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

dunno why my email went weird like that, will try again just in case...

s0569067 (at) sms.ed.ac.uk

Sirdropsalot, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

The e-mail is showing up just fine on our end. Can you try and re-send the Rocism Essay, Cat Power pic, and Sufjan v Deerhoof Essay? They seem to have been dropped in transmission.

Thanks!

Oink Administrator, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hi Mr. Oink Administrator,

I never heard back from you in regards to my Oink application. I'm assuming this is because I was rejected for some reason, but I would appreciate if you'd like me know for sure.

Thank you and kind regards,

anoushka

anoushka, Saturday, 12 May 2007 01:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey guys! I am confused when you say the Rockissm Essay, Cat Power pic, and Sufjan V Deerhoof Essay is missing. So I'm going to repost my application

a) igigfufu
b) Michael
c) 23
d) Male
e) California

1) Pillows – Penalty Life; Kooks – Inside In/Inside Out; Goldfinger – Stomping Ground

2) Rockism is the ideology that some popular music is more authentic than others. Originating from the British press in the early 1980s; Rockism is suspicious of the use of non traditional instrumental equipment. This includes both physical and spiritual properties used in the creation of music. Synthesizers and “Easy-Make” tools are frowned upon. The same applies to to “manufactured pop music.” Rocksim proponents argue that such music is created on assembly lines by hired record producers; thus creating soulless and inferior music. Subsequently, all commercialized music is regarded as impure. As stated earlier, this applies to all music, not just rock itself. One may be “Rockist,” yet express a genuine passion for R&B in a “rockist” style. A noted subtext of Rockism states that, at one point in time, “They got it right.” Rockists cite a period of time (generally accepted as the 1960sor 1970s) in which music was in its purest form; namely rock. Although there are many ways to define Rockism, meaning there is no absolute interpretation of it, the overall premise is rock is the norm of popular music.

3) http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/cat_power_chanel.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. Although Deerhoof is interesting as well, I find the music difficult to get in touch with. Sufjan Stevens speaks with heart and soul; this is portrayed through both his usage of sound and lyrics. In addition to this, he ventures into the use of various sounds and playing styles with his music. Although the same is true (if not to a greater extent) for Deerhoof; the music feels more like a collage or cut and paste operation of various sounds. Whereas these new and unique sounds may please the ears of some, I find it troublesome. The music is all over the place, and therefore, retains a minimal amount of passion. Although I prefer Sufjan Stevens; both artists are unique and fantastic in their own way. In the end, however, the eye-opening lyrics of Sufjan Stevens topple the whimsical tunes of Deerhoof.

5) 1 invite please

my email is

whattheho✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much Thanks!

igigfufu, Saturday, 12 May 2007 17:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

anoushka-

I am showing your account as approved and active.

Welcome!

-Oink

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 12 May 2007 20:30 (ten years ago) Permalink

Dear oink administrator, it appears that this forum is still active. If so, I might as well stake my claim.

a) marclay
b) Eliot
c) 24
d) male
e) austin, tx


1) Frank Zappa - Thing-Fish (Pre-release version)
The Ramones - Rocket to Russia (reissue)
The Rolling Stones - The Rolling Stones No. 2

2) What is rockism?

What is rockism? Not an answer, but a response: Rockism is a form of ludicrous snobbery in the form of scene trendsetting based on a code of nonsense that nonetheless explains the deteriorization of Aerosmith from Mama Kin to whatever they are now. Musicians play rock quartet/quintet instruments (guitar(s), bass, drums, keys(?)), feign that genius-ness of Bob Dylan with the Band live 1966 period, the fans must face the CBGB's toilets smell to get their fix. More simply, Rockism is a snobbery that "Rock" music is the best kind of music. Radio pop, with its pseudo-individuation, is devalued not for its lack of complexity but for its lack of simplicity. Paradoxically, middle aged "indie band" men are therefore returning to their pop-rock simplicity detroit rock city fonzie roots and singing about high school--the authentic rockist perspective must be young, and preferably ignorant of the "real world." The pseduo-indiviudal has grown up but must grow to be an eternal child, in other words. I find this all very embarrasing.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.worlds-fair.net/mail/images/IMG_1379catpower.JPG

with Devendra.

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

I have tried to live Sufjan, but the self-conscious singer-songwriter thing is played out for me at the moment. The giant wings he has been attaching to himself in recent concerts was really the last straw. However, I do enjoy his Christmas club music. Deerhoof, by contrast, is consistently engaging and GENUINELY fun even if they are pretentious as well. That little Japanese chick can really belt it out. The tunes get stuck in my head, so I sing out like her in public sometimes. Just that bit of life experience has added greatly to my self-esteem. And they are getting better, too.

5) How many invites do you require?

1

Confirmed Oink invites (or rejections) will be posted here in 1-3 working days. Check back here at that time, requests to expedite the approval process will result in immediate rejection.

wdstck, Sunday, 13 May 2007 05:49 (ten years ago) Permalink

username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

mertpao [at] gmail .com

wait u

babamert, Sunday, 13 May 2007 08:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

username babamert
age 23
loc: TURKEY
gender male
first name baba

mertpao [at] gmail .com

babamert, Sunday, 13 May 2007 08:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hi Mr. Oink Admin,

I'm approved? Yippppppppppppppeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :))) Thank you so much, you made my day! Unfortunately I never did receive the Oink invite in my email, so I don't know how my account could possibly be showing as active?

Thanks again, I'm so excited to have the opportunity to be a part of Oink!

~anoushka

anoushka, Sunday, 13 May 2007 18:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

anoushka check your junk email

jergïns, Sunday, 13 May 2007 19:26 (ten years ago) Permalink

wait u

g®▲Ðұ, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:15 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hello Mr Oink admin!
Thought it best to check with you about any progress. Have patiently waited and checked back regularly to see if there was an invite coming my way? Didnt want to be pushy or annoying!
Thank you for your time!

bisto_ie, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Administrator, if you have any invites left, I'd love to receive one. Thanks!

a) jordanobob
b) jordan
c) 26
d) male
e) flintstone, ga


1) Cold War Kids - Robbers & Cowards
Fields - Everything Last Winter
The Little Ones - Sing Song EP

2) What is rockism?

What is rockism? People have their own opinions about music. To try and describe one's favorite music as superior to others is what is commonly meant by rockism. The strict-constructionist definition of rockism is an exaltation of the mythology of '60s and early '70s rock - teenage boys with guitars working out their feelings on paper in the afternoon and shouting them through microphones at night. (The loose-constructionist definition calls rockism an exaltation of any form of music on pseudo-objective grounds.) Rockism usually includes a derisive sneer toward some other form of music, usually whatever is currently popular on the charts.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power

http://www.hi.is/~peturv/catpower.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Why? (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum)

Sufjan Stevens is a failed writer, an expert folder (he can wrestle a fitted sheet into a perfect square), and an admirer of Brahms symphonies. Sufjan admits to having borrowed the concept of Friend Rock from his good friend Sonny Aronson, who admits to having stolen it from his friend Cheryl Botchick (former editor of CMJ New Music Report), who may or may not have gleaned the term from the gossipy pages of NME Magazine, the editors of which often claim to have coined every fleeting and faddish term in the music industry since the 1970s, although we know that just is not true.

Deerhoof on the other hand, is refreshing! And there’s little attention to formal, Berkeley-style musicianship. But their persistent reinvention of their sound, even within individual songs, is reminiscent of the kind of jittery musical unrest that recalls Miles Davis and John Coletrane, and the less smoothly orchestrated output of early King Crimson.


5) How many invites do you require?

1

Indiemusicman, Monday, 14 May 2007 02:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

Didnt want to be pushy or annoying!

yeah, you're not annoying at all

jergïns, Monday, 14 May 2007 10:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

Jordanobob/Indiemusicianman, killer application there. A few admins here are still on the fence about you though, you could improve your chances greatly by posting a link to an mp3 or streaming sample of music you've created.

Oink Administrator, Monday, 14 May 2007 18:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin--

I am sorry to confuse you with my response to your question, but I did not plagerize.... I was sitting and writing what I thought about your question. It is possible for an individual to have an original idea.... obviously if you cant a place where I "got it from" than maybe it was actually produced by me..... Anyways, I guess I will keep an eye out for weather or not I got an invite. I hope you have a lovely day,

Kristen

Kford1, Monday, 14 May 2007 19:07 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kristen-

Well, it was such a well-written essay on Christian Heavy Metal that I automatically assumed it was lifted from a Jess Harvell or Ned Raggett essay somewhere on the web.

Just out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on Islamic Hip Hop?

Eagerly awaiting your well-written opinion,

-Oink Addy

Oink Administrator, Monday, 14 May 2007 20:02 (ten years ago) Permalink

Kristen - post pix plz

am0n, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 01:20 (ten years ago) Permalink

the 3 p's of OiNK

am0n, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 04:18 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Administrator,

Thanks for the response. I’m really interested in getting an Oink invite! I’m sorry but I haven’t created any torrents (not quite there yet). I am however an excellent seeder. I’m a member of Libble.com and I have a 1:1 ratio with over 4.5gb down\up. I may not be able to create new torrents, but I sure can help others get them. I’m not sure if that means anything to you or not?

Thanks,

Indiemusicman, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 13:50 (ten years ago) Permalink

:) Indiemusicman, cool namez :)

Confounded, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 14:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

Indiemusicianman,

You are misunderstanding me. I'm not interested in seeding or ratios (you could do better than 1:1), I'm interesting in hearing the music that you create. What instrument do you play? Where is that sample?

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 18:31 (ten years ago) Permalink

am0n--

What picture would you like me to post. I already posted one of Cat Power in my application from a while ago.

Is it necessary for me to post another picture for an invite...?

Oink Admin--

I am contemplating the nature of your question concerning Islamic Hip Hop, and I will post my response shortly.

Kristen

Kford1, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 18:47 (ten years ago) Permalink

Looking foreword to it!!!!

Oink Administrator, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 19:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

Hey guys, I was just wondering, but, I haven't heard a response on whether my application was approved or denied. I would love to find if I was or wasn't, and if not, why?

Much thanks, igigfufu

igigfufu, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 01:44 (ten years ago) Permalink

igigfufu-

We did not receive your application.

Cheers!

-Oinkz

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 01:52 (ten years ago) Permalink

am0n--

What picture would you like me to post. I already posted one of Cat Power in my application from a while ago.


ur pix. amirite Oink Admin

am0n, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

u rite, am0n.

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:42 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)AscensionCub
b)Ben
c)18
d)male
e)Grand Blanc,Michigan

1)- All Is Well Ends Well
- Southern Weather
- They're Only Chasing Safety

2) Rockism is a term that came about in the early 80's. Kind of became and "ideology" that critiqued popular music. There isn't one true definition of of it. People have judged it because of the meaning behind the term and have considered it "musical racism" All it was , was an opinion. Some people in my own thoughts took it to far when they complained about it.

3)www.flattire.org/archives/.../
austin_city_lim.html

4) My apologies, but the only thing I know is that Sufjun Stevens is from Michigan. I have no idea who Deerhoof is at all. Again I am sorry that I have not complied completely with this question.

5) I only require 1 invite. Much would be appreciated. If this helps my ratio is 1.78 on Demonoid. And I apologize for posting another site, but I have just heard you guys are the best of best.

Kellum0217, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

We are the best of the best.

Therefore, there is no room for people who can not follow instructions.

Your application has been rejected.

You may re-apply in 30 days.

Thank You for your understanding.

-Oink A

Oink Administrator, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 02:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

a)Quantum Thrust
b)Charlene
c)27
d)Female
e)Columbus,Ohio

1) All We Know Is Falling
All Is Well Ends Well
When Broken Is Easily Fixed

2) Rockism has several different ideals. One being the idea of criticizing music. Also the idea of that music should be natural. Thus being compared to Stuckism which is where artists that don't paint aren't considered artists. Rockism has been attacked by people saying it's "musical racism" and "straight white male chauvinism." People who are a believer in Rockism like it when they have most freedom in the music process. Thus allowing them to be themselves.

3) jonathan.greer.users.btopenworld.com

4) Sufjun Stevens hands down. Deerhoof irritated me a long time ago with vocals. Stevens vocals are grand. The guy is a spectacular indie artist. I have found his music to be quite original. I love the fact that he is capable of playing a wide variety of instruments. Stevens as I have listened to him has catchy lyrics and sound. I look forward to seeing what he has in store over the years.

5) 1 invite is requested and thank you for your consideration.

Fallen Shinden, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 23:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

Here is my application again.

a) igigfufu
b) Michael
c) 23
d) Male
e) California

1) Pillows – Penalty Life; Kooks – Inside In/Inside Out; Goldfinger – Stomping Ground

2) Rockism is the ideology that some popular music is more authentic than others. Originating from the British press in the early 1980s; Rockism is suspicious of the use of non traditional instrumental equipment. This includes both physical and spiritual properties used in the creation of music. Synthesizers and “Easy-Make” tools are frowned upon. The same applies to to “manufactured pop music.” Rocksim proponents argue that such music is created on assembly lines by hired record producers; thus creating soulless and inferior music. Subsequently, all commercialized music is regarded as impure. As stated earlier, this applies to all music, not just rock itself. One may be “Rockist,” yet express a genuine passion for R&B in a “rockist” style. A noted subtext of Rockism states that, at one point in time, “They got it right.” Rockists cite a period of time (generally accepted as the 1960sor 1970s) in which music was in its purest form; namely rock. Although there are many ways to define Rockism, meaning there is no absolute interpretation of it, the overall premise is rock is the norm of popular music.

3) http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/original/cat_power_chanel.jpg

4) Sufjan Stevens. Although Deerhoof is interesting as well, I find the music difficult to get in touch with. Sufjan Stevens speaks with heart and soul; this is portrayed through both his usage of sound and lyrics. In addition to this, he ventures into the use of various sounds and playing styles with his music. Although the same is true (if not to a greater extent) for Deerhoof; the music feels more like a collage or cut and paste operation of various sounds. Whereas these new and unique sounds may please the ears of some, I find it troublesome. The music is all over the place, and therefore, retains a minimal amount of passion. Although I prefer Sufjan Stevens; both artists are unique and fantastic in their own way. In the end, however, the eye-opening lyrics of Sufjan Stevens topple the whimsical tunes of Deerhoof.

5) 1 invite please

my email is

whattheho✧✧✧@gm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Much Thanks!

I also sent it to you just incase!

Much Thanks!

igigfufu, Thursday, 17 May 2007 02:27 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Administrator,

Sorry I haven't responded, busy with work. In regard to your question, I don't play any instruments (just a boombox). I paint houses and work hard, but I love listening to good music, preferably indie music. I hear oink is a great source and I'd love to be a part of the community (and appreciate it). Let me know and I'll give you my email address.

Thanks,

Indiemusicman, Saturday, 19 May 2007 02:48 (ten years ago) Permalink

Jesus fucking christ.

At least post a picture of a house you've painted.

-Oink A

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 19 May 2007 02:54 (ten years ago) Permalink

Ok,

Here ya go: http://greeneresidential.com/pictures/repairs/Repairs12.jpg

The dormers were particularly rough on this one.

Thanks,

Indiemusicman, Saturday, 19 May 2007 02:58 (ten years ago) Permalink

lol what are "dormers"?

g®▲đұ, Saturday, 19 May 2007 03:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

Indiemusicianman,

Since you misrepresented yourself in regards to playing an instrument, we now have a 6th question for you. Put honesty before brevity.

Is Brian a fair boss? Describe his managerial style (answer in paragraph format, eight sentence minimum).

Oink Administrator, Saturday, 19 May 2007 03:22 (ten years ago) Permalink

Oink Admin,

Brian Greene is a really cool guy! I've worked with him off and on for the last four years now. He's more of a friend than a boss. I go camping with him and some of our other friends quite often. If I could bid a job like him, I wouldn't need to work for him. I know how to paint, but he knows how to price a job. He's a good manager, good people skills, fair prices. On a side note, I also designed the company logo,webpage, and T-shirt. Anyway, If you decide I'm worthy of an invite, here's my email address: indiemusic✧✧✧@hotm✧✧✧.c✧✧

Thanks,
Thanks,

Indiemusicman, Saturday, 19 May 2007 03:33 (ten years ago) Permalink

omg

jergïns, Saturday, 19 May 2007 08:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) I know, right?
b) Tiarnan
c) 20
d) male
e) Ireland

1) Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
Snoop Dogg - R&G
Buckingham Nicks - Coffeeplant Demos

2) What is rockism? Rockism is an critical term for the ideology which promotes rock music as the superior genre of Music. Citing values which are specific to rock music such as writing your own songs and playing your own instruments, which are not so important in genres such as disco, pop, Hip Hop and dance music as the most important factors in musical quality. The focus on authenticity amongst rock music means that "manufactured" pop groups are seen as frivolous in comparison. As rock music has traditionally been dominated by white men, some have argued that the ideologies that form rockism are inherently racist. The poptimist movement, therefore, could be seen to mirror the feminist art history promoted by Roszita Parks and Griselda Pollock, which sought to find new contexts for art history, which did not marginalise women artists.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power http://www.newcenter.com/tastefest/2006/media/photos/MOTORCITY_CASINO_MAIN_STAGE/CAT%20POWER%20&%20THE%20MEMPHIS%20RHYTHM%20BAND.jpg a classic admittedly, but still very lovely.

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? Deerhoof. While I have, in the past, had time for Sufjan Stevens' Illinois, which at times matches the sweeping ambition that drives it (Sondheim unplugged is my favourite description), the indie rock sugar rush that Deerhoof have plyed across their substantial studio releases, is a firm favourite of mine. The guitar psychotics, arhythmical drums and droning cute-girl vocals take the best pop music apart and put it back together in a way that's crooked, spooky and full of fun neon giddiness. Holy Night Fever is one those songs that you dance to the guitar line for! And their last album was probably the best one yet, if only for Kidz are so Small. The music they make gets better the more it characatures itself.

5) How many invites do you require? 1

I know, right?, Saturday, 19 May 2007 14:23 (ten years ago) Permalink

you're a normal ("normal") ilxor, not a googler, aren't you?

jergïns, Saturday, 19 May 2007 16:13 (ten years ago) Permalink

I know, right? = Hailey from my third period Orang Group study hall?

Hey IRE! It's May 2007 -- so what do you look like?

sanskrit, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

WHUD UP BOO?

sanskrit, Sunday, 20 May 2007 03:59 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) requested username: Fromez
b) first name: Mel
c) age: 23
d) gender: Male
e) geographic location: Newcastle, England

1) Name three shared albums: Rock Plaza Central - Are We Not Horses; Arrah and the Ferns- Evan is a Vegan; Blonde Redhead - 23

2) Despite its title, Rockism is a deceptive term. I don't think it comments so much on rock and roll as on music as a whole. And in these terms, rockism is an intelligent discourse. Though not quite my cup of tea.

I like its message of music purity, having emphasis on musicians making the music for the music's sake and not for commercial reasons. Also, purity can cue arguments about natural instruments versus synthesisers and other artificial sounds.

It's a mixed concept though for me because I'm a fan of Susumu Yokota, who uses many traditional Japanese instruments, as well as Vangelis. But then you can excuse Vangelis' work because of his artistic intent. I'm a fan of Christina Aguilera as well as Espers, but how do you define Christina's artistic intent? On the other hand, I'm sure you could waffle on about the merits of any album under the sun, and argue "My Humps" is intended to be a ironic pro-feminist essay on depiction of women in mass culture.

I think while music causes intellectual responses in you, I don't think music itself should be interpreted in an overly intellectual way, more on emotion. You can listen to an album and like it, or you can go to Pitchfork, see it has a 6.2 score and decide you don't.

3) Post a link to your favorite picture of Cat Power: http://www.newcenter.com/tastefest/2006/media/photos/MOTORCITY_CASINO_MAIN_STAGE/CAT%20POWER%20&%20THE%20MEMPHIS%20RHYTHM%20BAND.jpg

4) Which artist is better, Sufjan Stevens or Deerhoof? I like both. However, being a fellow Steiner school graduate I have to go for Sufjan Stevens. And Deerhunter eats Deerhoof for breakfast. More seriously, on a musical note I think his concept of creating albums inspired by all of the states of America is restricting him. It's an interesting concept but he's too good to be restricted but I think I'd like to see him tackle a subject that makes him passionate, and to have these passions come across in his music. He's a more interesting musician than Deerhoof because his influences go beyond just his own music, and I like that he's created a circle of collaborators like Danielson, Rosie Thomas etc.
5) How many invites do you require? 1.
lucibel_mel*at*hotmail.com

Fromez, Monday, 21 May 2007 12:12 (ten years ago) Permalink

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learn to seed, homie!!!

jergïns, Monday, 21 May 2007 14:45 (ten years ago) Permalink

truuuuuuu

Confounded, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 10:19 (ten years ago) Permalink

yeah you too biznatch

a/k/a Mr. "0.000"

Confounded, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 17:36 (ten years ago) Permalink

haha i'm .003 up on you homeboy

jerg�ns, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 18:14 (ten years ago) Permalink

there's a star next to my name, sweetcakes

Confounded, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 18:46 (ten years ago) Permalink

SEND ME JAMMY BITCH

am0n, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 22:17 (ten years ago) Permalink

looooooooooooooool

Confounded, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 01:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

HEY GUYS THE NEW R KELLY IS OINKED!!!

jerg�ns, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 09:24 (ten years ago) Permalink

Wait, is this a joke?

I know, right?, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 15:56 (ten years ago) Permalink

Who is &quot;I know, right?&quot;

Confounded, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 16:55 (ten years ago) Permalink

?

I know, right?, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:03 (ten years ago) Permalink

He posts some stuff, and then he posts some other stuff.

Confounded, Wednesday, 23 May 2007 17:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

a) davidbh
b) david
c) 19
d) male
e) Eugene Oregon, USA

1)
Big A Little a - GaAme
Chromeo - Fancy Footwork
Avey Tare & Kria Brekkan - Pullhair Rubeye

2) Rockism is the translation of the greek word Rockismos, and latin rockismus. Its the encapsilation of all things music in a rock hard appreciation. Rockism is just as much loving music as it is knowing music. Rockism is the inability to fathom just how one record could be so good. Rockism is watching a the needle on a record as if it were a music video. Rockism is cat power's croon, to cocorosie's cackle; and everything in between. Rockism isn't about pretentions or being hip, its about truly loving what you listen to, and never settling for less. Rockism is available in every medium, from the heel of your shoe to the tip of your figers, however, most importantly via OINK!

3) http://www.dollarshort.org/images/mena-and-domo1.jpg

4) Sufjan has proven via journalism his appreciation for modern musicians, which makes him a man I can respect. Also, Sufjan is a collaborator with just about everyone on the musical spectrum imaginable. Though his music hasn't always stricken me as worthy of his potential, the fact that he has that potential makes him one of my favorite artists. Deerhoof have reached their potential, and not to say they won't push beyond it. Actually, if any band could, it would probably be deerhoof. They've come from koalamagic to friend opportunity and are at once completely different, as well as all the same. Deerhoof's singer satomi hasn't changed her spastic shouts, rather perfected them. Not to mention the drummer collaborates with a ton of people too! So I guess it's hard to say. As a band, I like deerhoof more simply because of the variety of sounds their catalog offers. As a musician, I respect Sufjan more, because he is one of the most savvy artists around. Not to mention a damn good musician himself.

5) 1 or 2 would be greatly greatly appreciated.

Davidbh, Thursday, 24 May 2007 17:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

deleted goatse fwiw

jerg�ns, Friday, 25 May 2007 10:38 (ten years ago) Permalink

Rockism is available in every medium, from the heel of your shoe to the tip of your figers, however, most importantly via OINK!

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Confounded, Friday, 25 May 2007 10:40 (ten years ago) Permalink

i have tons of invites, let's do this some more

kenan, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 21:57 (ten years ago) Permalink

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g®▲đұ, Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:08 (ten years ago) Permalink

I didn't get an invite! Write me more questions, I'll try again and again!!!!!!

Davidbh, Thursday, 31 May 2007 03:51 (ten years ago) Permalink

i think you blew it on the rockism question. :(

kenan, Thursday, 31 May 2007 17:28 (ten years ago) Permalink

next question:

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