one day and one track at a time. in honor of Joe Walsh. we can do this, people. and may God have mercy on our souls.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Nb_x-mJ3FFw/TaSm412HHII/AAAAAAAAAaQ/SDDvvEHKOik/s1600/The-Eagles_l.jpg
http://www.walnutst.com/i/products/f1312567200.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
here we go...
"Take It Easy"
http://ring.cdandlp.com/groove-vibrations/photo_grande/114363815.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS442e79mZ0
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
in the wild...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XByaqHhBFqE
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
I won't participate unless Ned does.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link
it's the soft rock shot heard 'round the world. and the world would never be the same. browne/frey at their most browne/frey. plus, banjos.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
Something I like about this song: In the last verse, there's a single substitution of an Am where a C has appeared in all the other verses. It's also supported in the vocal harmonies and is unexpectedly sweet-sounding.
― Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
it is, in a lot of ways, dumbed down byrds. musically. except for the demented banjos in the background. the vocals are so slow and deliberate and clear its almost as if they were hoping that it would catch on with children. bubblegum country rock? a lot of countru and southern rock from 1970 to 1972 was seriously dusty or backwoods or blues-based or a hippie homage to old bluegrass heroes. this totally cleans all the dust off. but, obviously, this is the genius. simple, direct, and catchy as hell. it was a song designed to be played 4000 times in a row.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
As I've said in other Eagles threads, this song exists in the impenetrable part of my mind labeled CHILDHOOD so is kinda untouchable on critical grounds. It came out when I was two-and-a-half years old, and my family was stationed at an Air Force Base in the middle of the Arizona desert. I probably DID hear it 4000x in a row, with my family driving down desert roads with open windows. It was literally created to be the soundtrack for exactly the world I inhabited at that time.
― Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
also think its such an appropriate start. and a true test for the cranky. if you can control the desire to feel superior to this song then you are on the path to sainthood. this song is exactly what people hated about this band early on. it is the Urtext of eaglesdom.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
When I listened to this song (and this album) the other day, after not having heard the song for years (I don't listen to the radio, like, ever), I was kinda shocked by the banjos. Somehow, they'd never really registered when I heard the song as a kid. Which is weird, because if there's a sound in the world guaranteed to appeal to small children, it would probably be the banjo. I mean, it's the closest thing traditional musical instruments have to that cartoon "sproinggg" sound!
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
MUSICIAN: Kootch, what was your feeling hearing Don and the Eagles' early stuff?
KORTCHMAR: I'll ell you exactly what my feeling was. When the Eagles first came out, I thought they were absolutely appalling. I couldn't stand them. Absolutely terrible. Especially things like "Peaceful Easy Feeling" and "Take It Easy."'Cause what they were saying was exactly the opposite of what I wanted to hear, what was going on in my life. Take Jackson's "Peaceful Easy Feeling": here's this song that says "walking down the road in Tucson, Arizona, seven women on my mind." (sic) And here I am trying to keep my marriage together, and this guy's got seven women on his mind! God, it sounded like they were having fun, but I sure wasn't (laughter).
http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~markowit/interviews/dh/musician/both.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
as with most Jackson Browne covers this sucks some balls compared to the original. yes that includes you Nico, fuck you.
also Kortchmar is misquoting there, obviously.
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
There are definitely better Eagles songs. This is pretty wimpy stuff.
Pretty cool to see them on the California Jam stage in that clip from the very camera that Ritchie Blackmore would destroy only a few hours later.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
it should be noted that this is a standard country and bluegrass song to cover. thousands of country and bluegrass performers have covered this song over the years.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
On A Dark Desert Highway: A Vocal Bluegrass Tribute to the Eagles offers heartfelt versions of the band’s greatest songs with soaring harmonies and delightful pickin’ on the banjo, mandolin, dobro and guitar. You won’t believe how beautiful these songs sound in the hands (and throats) of some of the best Bluegrass musicians in the business. If the Eagles had settled in W. Virginia instead of California, this is how their music would have sounded!
http://www.cmhrecords.com/web/images/products/8917_lrg.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
do you think that jackson browne oould live off of "take it easy" royalties? not that he has to. but if he had to. i'm going to say yes.
i have a friend whose father wrote a famous song - in the 40's! - and i was kinda impressed by how much money it made the family in a year. not enough to live on, but not nothing either. its a very famous song.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
"loosen my load" is such a gross-sounding phrase
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
Oh man, I never even thought of the sexual connotation there before.
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
the only thing i have to say in favor of the eagles is that at least they were kinda pleasantly sleazy
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
just a ragtag band of misfits...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
yeah everything about this song is gross, which is compounded by its expert execution. no doubt dudes could harmonize, but not well enough to make me overlook the material or sentiments expressed.... I can think of other harmony or country acts whose singing is so beautiful and intense that it creates a compelling contrast with otherwise bothersome lyrical content, this tension becomes part of the appeal. But the Eagles are not the Louvin Brothers or the Beach Boys. They aren't weird or damaged or desperate enough, nor are they beatific or angelic enough, they're just gross.
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― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
at least they weren't trying to sell us abstinence like the malevolent mumford banjo mafia
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
• I have the best memory of a buddy finally going insane at two in the morning during a poker game when "Take It Easy" comes on and he can't stop laughing over "running down the road, tryin' to loosen my load."
• Rich Hall has this chapter in his Vanishing America about going to Winslow, Ariz., and waiting for a girl in a flatbed Ford to slow down and take a look at him. He gets a ride with her and asks about Jackson Browne. "Kinda quiet," she says and he replies, yeah, that's what he's heard too.
• I'm sure I'll get into it later, but background vocals on Eagles songs scare the shit out of me.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
Ok, I think I'm gonna lose my shit about "loosen my load" now.
― how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
everything about the arrangement is so uptight, SOMETHING'S gotta get loosened amirite
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
I imagine a constipated Yosemite Sam running through Roadrunner territory.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
Mumford does not take it easy, which sort of makes them worse. The Eagles were hilariously smug and arrogant making lite music. Mumford delivers its music with that annoying faux gravitas, as if it was Important. I'm sure the Eagles though they were Important, too, but only after enough people told them they were, and that probably only came after they were hugely successful and everyone around them was too afraid to say otherwise. "Wow, guys, 'Hotel California' really is like holding up a mirror to America. Like you said, it's about the American dream, but also the American nightmare!"
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
Song does nothing for me, and never did. Really, the Doobies' "Listen To The Music" is my own personal substitute for "Take It Easy" (not only banjo, it's got steel drums too!) for that 1972 west coast highway-driving feel.
The phrase "There's a girl, my lord, in a flatbed Ford" does sing nice.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
I am avoiding this shit like the plague. Aside from this post, obv.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
All right, everyone. Ned's in.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Being from California, these are the songs of your people, correct?
Only Eagle actually from California was Timothy Schmit.
― how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
Listen, this isn't the place to start on any of your anti-immigrant rhetoric.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
I take great umbrage at this suggestion, good sir
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
Sorry to get all Soft Rock Civil Defense Corps on you.
― how's life, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
All native Californians are from Iowa iirc
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
"Listen To The Music" is my own personal substitute for "Take It Easy"
i love "listen to the music" to death. its an amazing song when all is sad and done. and the production is arguably just as tightassed as eagles but somehow it opens up into a field of infinite possibilities by the time you get to the psych break where the lazy flowing river does something to the castles in the sky.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
lighten up while you still can
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
apparently frey came up with the flatbed ford line.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2179/3261/5446630016_large.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
oh fuck, where is my statues thread.
http://maxmccoy.com/blog/uploaded_images/IMG_0174-769036.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
Take It Easy is unfuckwithable; tight structure, sweet harmonising, singalong up to your eyeballs. Was this their first song? What pros.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
lol @ the reflection
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
take it easy is ok
but it is sort of impressive, as far as "first song on first album totally defining the aesthetic of the band"
right up there with "black sabbath"/black sabbath/black sabbath
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
I feel like the first two missing panels of this cartoon involved Mr. Magoo somehow.
http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9619/hs56.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
What's going on in those upstairs windows?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
Well, when two trompe l'oeil figures love each other very much . . .
― Domo Arigato, Demi Lovato (Phil D.), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
"it's a girl my lord, in a flatbed Ford, slowin' down to take a look at me" is the only contribution Frey made to the song. Save for that one line, the song is written by Jackson Browne whose own version of the song I prefer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMA3lIeqV8M
― Lee626, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
Of course Frey would write the line that makes him look like Paul Newman.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
I'm curious about the exact nature of the relationships with those seven women, particularly the one who says she's a friend. Why is that was enough distinction to call her out specifically? Did most of the women he knew not want to be mistaken for being friends with him?
― Lee626, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
those ringing opening electric guitar chords that open the song -- and, I guess, their career -- make it sound like something epic is about to happen. but it turns out the laid-back acoustic strum underneath them is what you were supposed to have been listening to.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles - and especially "Take It Easy" and "Hotel California" - have been so ubiquitous for so long that I'm wondering where and when most of us actually formulated any kind of a critical stance on the group. I was born in late 1982 and they were always kinda just there; I imagine the experience would be much the same for anyone born in America after 1970 or so. IME it's harder to be objective about music you grew up with. So if you hate the Eagles, did you hate "Take It Easy" when you were 5? Or did you grow to hate them later on? I think I always liked that song because it was big and clean and catchy and had good harmonies. I could say much the same for their other hits. By the time I got old enough to think about the smug misogyny of the lyrics and the greedy picks behind them, the Eagles were too much a part of my aural landscape to hate. And even so, I never once felt compelled to buy an album. The radio was enough.
For a contrast, I hated James Taylor for as long as I can remember. I think I could sense the waves of smarm and unctuousness dripping from his voice when I was in grade school.
One interesting thing about "Take It Easy" is that it never even made the top 10 of the charts - it only reached #12. Yet over time it's probably gotten more radio play than 95% of all the #1 hits in history - including a couple of the group's own chart toppers. It's so immaculately produced and finely-crafted - slicker and fuller than probably anything else of its era - that it's always an up, and I never change the station when it's on, yet it's also bland and shallow enough that I never seek it out otherwise. That kind of sums up their appeal and their shortcomings - easy to like, hard to really care about.
― thewufs, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
"picks" = "pricks"
― thewufs, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
I thought the implication was that the singer is being friendzoned by that one.
Ismael OTM and I don't really back down from my earlier comment about how this song illuminates much of what came later in lighter modern rock and new country.
3xpost
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
I thought it meant he wasn't interested in sleeping with that particular one of the seven. The Eagles have always been there. I don't have a critical stance on them beyond always hating them.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
Opening chimey guitar chords remind me that Rickenbacker made a Glenn Frey signature model, because his tone and approach were obviously so unique and distinctive that they could only be replicated by ugh ugh ugh seriously fuck Glenn Frey:http://www.rickenbacker.com/news_item.asp?news_id=34&news=old
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
To clarify - I didn't hate their music (which is generally light and innocuous) so much as them personally. They have always seemed like a bunch of entitled jerks.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
I think Eagles hate has to be learned. It's part of that adolescent thing where you decide that some things are too pretty, too perfect, too good, that you'd rather listen to something that sounds fucked-up and noisy/distorted because it's more real, man. Also that if your mom likes it, it's to be shoved away with all your strength. My mom liked the Eagles a lot, I think. But somehow I never learned to hate them.
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
I always heard this as meaning that they were whilom lovers but they weren't ever going to be much else.
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
I thought it meant he wasn't interested in sleeping with that particular one of the seven.
But SHE'S the one who says she's a friend of his! Plus, it's totally funnier my way.
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― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
Like, he sets you up with the "seven women on [his] mind" thing but they're all either pissed off at him or blowing him off.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
Well, or they want something serious.
my parents were not Eagles fans, I don't remember hearing them at all as a kid really. at some point in high school/college there were conversations about what "Hotel California" *really* was about (see also Don McLean's "American Pie", Zep's "Stairway to Heaven" etc) and def by the time I was in college I was aware of the ubiquity of their Greatest Hits but by then there was really nothing in their music to appeal to me. and over time as I've learned more about them and listened to my wife's copies of their albums they just get under my skin.
Disco Strangler cracks me up tho. one of the times where they get close to so-bad-its-good camp. everything about that song is wrong.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
I always think of the Eagles as the kind of music that you are forced to listen to while driving through some infernally hot and dusty place and that your mother made the error of loving after having loved all that cool shit in the 60's. I can't really hate them 'cause they're so easy to ignore but God have mercy on your soul if you're at a summer bbq and someone puts them on.
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
Growing up, all I saw of the Eagles was constant radio airplay, endless stream of solo records, bazillion dollar tours, and they never seemed very down to earth/human at all. My parents didn't like them either. I was also really righteous about my dislike of money grubbing rich people.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
Since there seemed to be a sexual past between him and the own me/stone me women but not the "friend of mine," my barely-formed guess has always been that they were drug buddies. "We're not balling or anything, I'm just along because he/she knows where to score."
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
One interesting thing about "Take It Easy" is that it never even made the top 10 of the charts - it only reached #12
"Listen To The Music" was #11. In your FACE, Browne!
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
― 誤訳侮辱, Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:30 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
ha this is almost as much a cliche now as hating the eagles for being too "smooth" or "corporate"
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
http://brucebase.wikispaces.com/file/view/190774-ozark-poster-hs2.jpg/291732259/384x505/190774-ozark-poster-hs2.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
best pics of the ozark fest. nsfw:
http://masmasmaraksi.blogspot.com/2012/05/ozark-music-festival.html
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
and some more:
https://sites.google.com/site/rodsievers/ozarkmusicfestival
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
Gotta say, that's a lot more ass than what I was expecting from Sedalia, Mo.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
It is the show me state.
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
i can remember wanting to go see eagles and linda ronstadt at the yale bowl when i was kid. my dad wouldn't take me. little river band opening, i think.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
damn i set myself up for that
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
Yup.
Thanks!
― EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, August 20, 2013 3:24 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
My take is that it was the other way around. But, yeah, none of those seven women seem to have him on their mind, at least not in any good way.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
As far as childhood memories, I completely intertwine Eagles and Steve Miller Band because this concert came to town the week of my eighth birthday, when I was listening to top-40 radio all the time. Not only are those two bands intertwined, but the third on the bill, Pablo Cruise, is there as well. Must've heard the show advertised on the radio enough times for it to be branded into my head.
― only dogg forgives (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
- she *says* she's a friend of his. So it could be like she's all made 'wtf you're sleeping with six other chicks I THOUGHT WE WERE FRIENDS' ...or she's just rolled up to his house trying to weasel her way in with some line like she's an old friend of his
- the banjo is insane. like in a kooky way. as though bernie leadon was pissed off and just said 'fuck you frey I'm playing the banjo the whole way through and there's nothing you can do to stop me'
- I always wonder what if Frey had just stolen Jackson Browne's songs outright while he was living upstairs from him
- take it easy man
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
made = mad
the structure and tempo of this song are kind of cool. the chords keep zipping along, and the chorus never really repeats from one occurrence to the next. the first time through it's "lighten up while you still can," the next time through they say "come on baby" instead of "take it easy," and the third time through he has to know if your sweet love is gonna save him. minor chords popping up all over the place. keeps you on your toes.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
― Here's the storify, of a lovely ladify (Phil D.), Tuesday, August 20, 2013 9:43 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
never noticed this, nice catch
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Michael Vick was just named the starting quarterback for the Eagles in the coming season. felt like i should note that here.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Eagles [Asylum, 1972]These guys certainly boogie more than the bluegrass sellouts who populate the vaguely country-oriented mainstream of contemporary American rock, and they certainly write more memorable songs. But this culminates the reactionary individualism that country-rock has come to epitomize in the counterculture. What's worse, the country orientation bespeaks not roots but a lack of them, so that in the end the product is suave and synthetic--brilliant, but false. And not always all that brilliant, either. B
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
The B-side is kinda the reverse of the A-side -- bummed-out dude getting no action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cBuNuXFSz8
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
the country orientation bespeaks not roots but a lack of them, so that in the end the product is suave and synthetic
This echoes a lot of the discussion in the Mumford/Lumineers threads -- except maybe the suave part.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
"The B-side is kinda the reverse of the A-side -- bummed-out dude getting no action."
dude, no spoilers! haha, just kidding, but for real we will get to it!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
that's the whole "track-by-track" part in the thread title.
right now i'm like a newborn baby, there is only one eagles song, it is my universe, my everything
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
That's a typically painful and tone-deaf review from the "Dean" up there.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
Most of the rest of this year, we're going to be listening to The Eagles everyday.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
at the end of the year, we'll all get shiny cyanide capsules we can bite down on
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, August 20, 2013 5:10 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
Sorry! I guess I should've just ... taken it easy.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
you can't rush these things.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
loosen yr load, dude
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
actually wait, don't.
the good news is that after today, we will never be here again.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
just loosened my load fyi, everybody
― i am.. a maven (Matt P), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
a girl in every port, an eagles song on every day
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
xpost henley probably has a cigar box you can use
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
i'll take mine now, please.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
(actually, this thread idea is genius.)
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
(but i'd like a glass of water, just in case.)
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
check out any time you like, cuz.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
wow check the Wiki page about the Ozark Music Festival - i've never seen so many "citation needed"s on one page. Seems like good times, except for the water shortage. Was the Marshall Tucker Band really considered a bigger draw than Bruce Springsteen or Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1974? (Bruce apparently didn't make the show)
― Lee626, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
It's a good format for a thread, but I'd expect ilx to do this first for a band it likes a lot more. I feel like we are being drawn to The Eagles like a dog is drawn to a rotting carcass.
― 29 facepalms, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
ILM kinda does this with its readers polls, counting down to the most favorite song.
But with the Eagles, I don't think anyone wants to be caught casting that ballot.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
Sure, though this way we talk about *every* song? I suppose we can enjoy working ourselves into an ecstasy of disgust.
― 29 facepalms, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
I was watching a punk documentary tonight and they showed a big blow-up of the Jubilee chart with a big white box at no.1 where The Sex Pistols should've been. There at no.2, top of the charts by default, rides Hotel California.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
the morbidity of this project has a joan didion-reckoning-with-california vibe i dig
― i am.. a maven (Matt P), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
Well, at least this thread got "What's Up" out of my head.
― only dogg forgives (Eazy), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
was either this or a bullet.
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
by the end of this thread we will all have had either a divorce, rehab, lawsuit and/or ridden in a corvette with a drug dealer. and released at least 1 solo album.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
Forget it Veg, it's Freytown!
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
I'm looking forward to meeting Stevie!
http://www.clipartof.com/images/emoticons/xsmall2/650_crazy_eyebrows.gif
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
I'm not sure I ever knew about the Ozark Mountain Festival. This is kinda blowing my mind:
Posters for the festival announced that some of the best bands in country and southern rock would be performing, including:
Bachman–Turner Overdrive Aerosmith Premiata Forneria Marconi
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
woah
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
FUCK THE SINGLES!! I WANT DEEP ALBUM CUTS!!
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
dude, just.......................................................relax
― i am.. a maven (Matt P), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
take it easy!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
i think we're gonna do it all in order right?
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
Will someone call me back when it's time to take it to the limit?
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
I can't tell you why
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
i can't wait for y'all to hear "chug all night" it's gonna be ILX rapture
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
show of hands who is already knotting their shirts at the midriff
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 August 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
"but I'd expect ilx to do this first for a band it likes a lot more."
see i was actually thinking yesterday that it would be fun for bands that i (and others here) have never listened to. except for, like, one hit. like Timbuk 3 or something. but then i remembered that a lot of groups i have forgotten about have put out a zillion records when nobody was looking. there might be 20 Timbuk 3 albums that i don't know about and there ain't no way i'm doing that. it would have to be a manageable discography.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
weirdly the eagles are like the perfect band to try this with
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:46 (ten years ago) link
yeah, they are good. well, just thinking about songs that you've heard a million times until you don't hear them anymore can be a good exercise.
and i don't really want to listen to lots of timbuk 3 albums.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
somehow it feels like the Eagles made way more than 6 studio albums (7 including the 2007 post-reunion album) given their omnipresence
― Lee626, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 00:58 (ten years ago) link
i was surprised that don henley didn't put out anything in the 90's. he must have been walking in the woods. 11 years between the end of the innocence and his album from 2000.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
He had some new bait songs on his hits package, and..."Get Over It".
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link
the mellow don henley of the year 2000:
You could have given us the finger Much more constructively than that Now I sit here with the MTV And your bloated, Burmese cat We're being treated to the wisdom Of some puffed up little fart Doing exactly what I used to do Pretentions to anarchy and art He speaks the language of a warrior He mounts his misinformed attack He wears the clothes of a dissenter But there's a logo on his back And it's a hollow rebellion As rebellions mostly are It's just another raging tempest in a jar
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
Those words are in English, but that verse makes no sense!
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
Henley in the '90s...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJU94w_A9jc
In To The Limit, he mentions the video had to be edited down for consideration for airtime on MTV (yeah right) & VH1. "There was too much talkin' in it...the only white guy they want rappin' on MTV is Vanilla Ice."
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link
RAGH KIDS AND THEIR SAGGY PANTS RAGH
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link
and we have to ask why these people are so bad and hated?
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
that video is endless. i don't know if i could watch it all they way through. says the guy who wants to bathe in the eagles for the forseeable future...jesus, that does sound horrible. bathing in eagle water. the smell might never come off. you guys realize you will always be the person who knows to much about the eagles if you follow through with this. you might want to keep that on the down low. nobody will invite you to parties.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link
Ha, are you actually planning to discuss every single song in the Eagles' discography?? That only registered now, somehow. Whoa.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link
they laughed at madame curie too. right in her face! but someone has to do the dirty work.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
This definitely feels like one of those "only Nixon could've gone to China" type things.
― pplains, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link
I packed my suitcase, I'm totally ready.
- 1 pair unwashed bellbottoms- quaaludes- coke- ?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:36 (ten years ago) link
mostly coke, weed, and tequila. maybe a learjet
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
idk why I think of them as a coke n 'ludes band but yr suitcase is p cool too
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link
Xpost...underage girl, Rimbaud poetry volume.
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:41 (ten years ago) link
*runs back to house, packs those things*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:42 (ten years ago) link
ludes not specifically mentioned in the hoskyns book but who the fuck knows, i'm sure they were around
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:45 (ten years ago) link
i always kinda wished i had tried a quaalude. they stopped making them during my drug years. i think. nobody had any anyway.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:47 (ten years ago) link
see, Eagles make you wistful.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link
They had a suitcase full of valium at that airport in the documentary, so if they weren't fucking with ludes specfically then boatloads of [insert downer]
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link
that's kinda sad to have a suitcase full of valium. now valium i had PLENTY of during my drug days. thanks to my dad. he practically had a suitcase full. stressful times. for the both of us and for the nation. man, the eagles were bummed out.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
cocaine leads you to the sad drugs i guess
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link
The eagles are perfect because there are 20 eagles songs everyone's heard a million times and 70 eagles songs most of us have never heard
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link
otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:27 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, even their "Very Best of" two-discer is about half stuff you don't hear much on the radio.
Before we move on to the next track, I just want to say I like "Take It Easy", and part of that stems from a story I heard somewhere about how Winslow, Arizona ended up in the lyric: Jackson Browne had been driving cross-country, picking up Route 66 to get to California when his car broke down in Winslow, and he had to stay there for a few days while it was repaired.
― Uncle Cyril O'Boogie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link
cool story bro
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link
:)
I'm thinking if we did an Eagles tracks poll, where you could include solo songs, that "Boys of Summer" would win.
― jetfan, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link
I actually mostly like Take It Easy, at least until the speedfreak banjo gets on my nerves
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 03:55 (ten years ago) link
so what are the rules: can we no longer discuss "take it easy" come tomorrow? or ever again? or are songs open for discussing going forward once they've been entered into the fray? also, will we have to start doing copious amounts of coke once they start doing copious amounts of coke?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:04 (ten years ago) link
song a day should mean no bleedthrough imo
new song, new convo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link
yeah, Take It Easy is great. I dig the famous Xgau article but the political criticism of the Eagles is sort of... outdated? we have all grown to like yuppie music, right? the albums review is still important though, the "And not always all that brilliant, either" part. which is why this "one song each day" project is so necessary. bring it on!
― g simmel, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 08:39 (ten years ago) link
"Witchy Woman"
http://ring.cdandlp.com/timburton007/photo_grande/113894224.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U6gNHLOkfc
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:27 (ten years ago) link
the guitars kinda rule.
i mean i can see other bands at the time listening to this and going DAMN SICK GUITARS and then hating the Eagles even more.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:29 (ten years ago) link
This is pretty great too. Greatest Hits was inevitably one of the handful of tapes my dad had in the car when I was a kid, and this was the song I liked. I think the woo-oo-ooos make for a killer hook. Also they suit a loping bass, like in One Of These Nights.
Lyrically it's not ideal, but if I give Dazed & Confused a free pass I can hardly complain about this.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:34 (ten years ago) link
the intro is killer. and after the intro you get three cool sounding guitars and it just sounds really good to me.
true story: this song was playing on the department store speakers when my wife Maria went to go buy her first bra. (she just told me that.)
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:36 (ten years ago) link
I bet the guys'd get a kick out of that.
I like the drumming here. There's too much empty repetition at the beginning - the four repeats after the intro should've been cut in half.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:40 (ten years ago) link
They've become 'the guys', see what you've done to me.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link
A mainstay of Halloween party mixtapes.
T/S "Witchy Woman" vs "Black Magic Woman"
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link
the only single on the first album with don henley lead vocals. i just read that.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link
"While the inspiration for the title and lyrics was based on various women they had met and remembered as seductive enchantresses, Henley had Zelda Fitzgerald particularly in mind after reading her biography."
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:56 (ten years ago) link
"She drove herself to madness with the silver spoon", is a reference to Zelda's time in a mental institution and the special slotted silver spoon used to dissolve sugar cubes with Absinthe, the popular 1920s alcoholic beverage distilled from the wormwood tree and called "the green fairy" for sometimes inducing hallucinations. The song was conceived while Don Henley was living in an old house near the Hollywood Bowl, with his flat mate, Henry Vine (aka 'Blitz')."
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 11:57 (ten years ago) link
check out the guitar sound on this t.v. performance. nasty.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xcogzw_witchy-woman-eagles_music
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
The toms on the intro make me wonder if it started out as some kind of "Cherokee Nation" thing.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:10 (ten years ago) link
Was listening to Zevon last night. Obv. Zevon was part of that scene, pals with the Eagles, etc., but he's so much more vicious, acid, witty and mean, not just vacuous. Was he just in it for the drugs? There are all these talented writers, like Zevon, Browne and Newman, who seem to have no prob with the Eagles as a band or as people. And in some cases, like Zevon and Newman, you'd think the Eagles would be open targets.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2O91T6ZeW0
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link
Xgau: "But the only ones that score are the jokes: Ernie K-Doe's sly, shy "A Certain Girl," and "Gorilla, You're a Desperado," a satire of the Eagles, not to mention Warren Zevon. Don Henley sings harmony. Linda Ronstadt will not cover. "
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
That TV performance is the business. Reminds me of Peter Green, talking about Black Magic Woman, though Green is a lot more fluid. It's an amazing 1-2 all told, and aiui they only get better from here.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link
Holy fuck, was there anything Christgau was right about in the '70s (or, frankly, ever)?
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
Yes?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
This old lady looks a little like Glenn Frey:
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/future_tense/2013/08/16/martin_manley_suicide_website_a_sports_writer_s_troubling_template_for_social/Martin_Mug.jpg.CROP.article250-medium.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link
oldladieswholooklikeglenfrey.blogspot.com
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
And in some cases, like Zevon and Newman, you'd think the Eagles would be open targets
this has crossed my mind more than once
― |citation needed| (will), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Having a pop at Springsteen and ELO is funnier
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
Ugh, hate this. Dull, plodding, thudding, flumping, about as dynamic as a drool-stained pillow.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
That 45 has terrible sleeve art. I guess that's how you know they weren't rich yet.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
xxpost so was Newman clowning ELO?
― |citation needed| (will), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
i don't think that was the american sleeve. i think this was:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Witchy_Woman.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
He does on a song I can't remember the title of
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
Oh hold on, it's "The Story of a Rock and Roll Band"
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
i prefer this one:
http://img5.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/ae/85/xqjng092/folder/562795/img_562795_22555646_0?1329732085
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
but i just liked the idea of the eagles being locked up. so i went with that.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
Did you have the urge then, or sometimes now, to just crank the amps up to 11 and play rock and roll?If I thought I could do that, and weren’t so self-critical and thought I could play well enough, I’d love to do it. I’m just not the player Ry is, or (Jim) Keltner, or some of these guys. I mean, they put up with me all right because I play unconventionally and I can think of notes for everybody. But I’m a writer really. I’d love to be able to just ram around to ram around in a band, yeah, if I could feel comfortable that they wouldn’t look at me funny because I was out of time, you know? I just don’t have the rudiments of it. I have skills that are advanced in high areas of music, and yet, basic things are really hard for me sometimes, like keeping in time or playing piano. On the thing (producer) Jeff Lynne cut of mine, “Falling In Love,” we did it all in Mike Campbell’s garage, Tom Petty’s guitar player. Petty was there, and we were going to do background voices. I said, ‘I can’t really do that.’ I look at (Don) Henley or these guys doing it, and I can’t sing in tune like that. And Petty says to me, ‘No, you can do it. With Jeff, I didn’t think I could do it either, but when I did it with Jeff, we could do it.’ So I got in there, and there was Petty, and Campbell, and we were all going to make our ‘oohs.’ So I put my hand over my ears like I’d seen people do (laughs), and the thing came up, and I went, ‘Uungh,” and this went on for a while, and I saw Jeff Lynne shaking his head like he smelled something bad. And he looked over at me, and it was a look of, ‘Are you putting us on? Are you kidding?’ It had a little pity in it, but it was mainly like, ‘You’re joking, aren’t you?’ So we did it again, and I went ‘Aaah,’ and apparently he had never heard anyone that bad. So he just said, ‘Maybe you better sit this one out.’ So you can’t help but getting smacked no matter how far you go.
If I thought I could do that, and weren’t so self-critical and thought I could play well enough, I’d love to do it. I’m just not the player Ry is, or (Jim) Keltner, or some of these guys. I mean, they put up with me all right because I play unconventionally and I can think of notes for everybody. But I’m a writer really. I’d love to be able to just ram around to ram around in a band, yeah, if I could feel comfortable that they wouldn’t look at me funny because I was out of time, you know? I just don’t have the rudiments of it. I have skills that are advanced in high areas of music, and yet, basic things are really hard for me sometimes, like keeping in time or playing piano. On the thing (producer) Jeff Lynne cut of mine, “Falling In Love,” we did it all in Mike Campbell’s garage, Tom Petty’s guitar player. Petty was there, and we were going to do background voices. I said, ‘I can’t really do that.’ I look at (Don) Henley or these guys doing it, and I can’t sing in tune like that. And Petty says to me, ‘No, you can do it. With Jeff, I didn’t think I could do it either, but when I did it with Jeff, we could do it.’ So I got in there, and there was Petty, and Campbell, and we were all going to make our ‘oohs.’ So I put my hand over my ears like I’d seen people do (laughs), and the thing came up, and I went, ‘Uungh,” and this went on for a while, and I saw Jeff Lynne shaking his head like he smelled something bad. And he looked over at me, and it was a look of, ‘Are you putting us on? Are you kidding?’ It had a little pity in it, but it was mainly like, ‘You’re joking, aren’t you?’ So we did it again, and I went ‘Aaah,’ and apparently he had never heard anyone that bad. So he just said, ‘Maybe you better sit this one out.’ So you can’t help but getting smacked no matter how far you go.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
i guess i always assumed it was coming from a place of affection, kinda like 'unseen power of the pcket fence'
― |citation needed| (will), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
can I just
"It's Witch-AY Woman"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
Yeah this song sucks. Too slow and dead. But did make a good Seinfeld joke (haha xp).
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
• Also they suit a loping bass, like in One Of These Nights.
If there's one thing this sudden blast of reconsideration has done is to make realize that Randy Meisner was the man on bass.
I've always thought that about him with "Hotel California" - a song from an era that he doesn't even seem to fit in. (Can you imagine the set list that has both Life in the Fast Lane and Take It to the Limit on it?)
• A mainstay of Halloween party mixtapes.
Don't forget "Devil Woman".
• This was the song I was thinking about above when I made mention of my fear of Eagles background vocals. That bridge at 2:40 would be the perfect scene soundtrack to a character on PCP realizing too late that they've just murdered a loved one.
It's probably even happened in real life.
― pplains, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
re: 'ludes discussion upthread...don't those just make you sleepy? How is that a fun recreational drug?
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
i love that part of the song. the bass sounds great on this song too. i really love the guitars. that's a solid heavy metal intro too. like slowed down judas priest.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
tarfumes at least listen to the guitar sound on that t.v. clip i linked too. they sound so good. that's my kinda tone.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
I have no personal experience, but an older friend who was an enthusiast in their heyday says that they were the loviest, huggiest drug ever. Way more than MDMA. "We would all just end up sitting in a heap on the floor, everybody with their arms around each other," that kind of thing.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
I'm with Don and Glenn. Who needs love?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
I have a crystal clear memory of little Carl Agatha, excited to have chosen her dime store plastic witch mask and smock for Halloween, donning her costume and performing an interpretive dance routine to Witchy Woman for her long-suffering parents. This song always intrigued me when I was a kid. It sounded so mysterious! She'll rock you in the night until your skin turns red! What could that mean??!?!? Now I know what the lyrics mean and I've just heard it too many times and find it kind of blah EXCEPT for the breakdwown in the middle with the toms and Don Henley going ham on the falsetto. I still like that part.
My stepfather is a huge, HUGE fan of the Eagles. We spent an evening on the deck rocking Eagles deep cuts and drinking beer on the deck (well, he was drinking beer) when I was visiting earlier this month. Most of my experience with the band is overexposure to the hits and listening to albums cuts refracted through the lens of my stepdad's boundless enthusiasm, so this should be interesting.
Also whoever said that the Eagles and Steve Miller Band occupy the same space in his thoughts is OTM. I just had to take a second to remember which band released Time Keeps on Slippin'.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
hahahahaha OTM
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, August 21, 2013 8:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
The only thing i can come up with is Skynyrd, other than that, the guy sucked about as bad as you can suck.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
Haha xp that's great. Also, the little dropped in bent guitar note at 2:46 is killing me.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
This. The tom sound is such a Western movie cliche it feels kind of creepy, though the lyrics don't pick up that theme (perhaps the "til your skin turns red" line is left over from an earlier, more racist version?)
All that wooo-oooing is the best part.
― Brad C., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
As a child, I assumed that the witchy woman was staying up all night casting a spell that would cause you to get a skin ailment similar to a sunburn so that's probably what it is.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
wiki says that bernie wrote the music when he was in burrito brothers so maybe he had a western-themed thing in mind. then henley wrote his haunted flapper lyrics.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:57 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Wow. Yeah, the guitars in that clip help the song exponentially.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:59 AM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ah, ok, that kinda makes sense now...my only exposure to 'ludedom was Albert Brooks in Modern Romance ("I have so many great albums!")
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
that cracked me up in modern romance. i could relate. i actually did that once on one of the only occasions that i did X. i just sat in a chair next to my records all night.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha)
http://www.stolloween.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/witches3.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
Hey y'all just wanna suggest a good book to go along with this thread would be Barney Hoskyns' Hotel California, really great account of the whole scene
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
we talked about that book at length on the eagles thread that spawned this thread. i loved it even though it really bummed me out majorly.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
Tel it to Pulaski.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
i thought this and "one of these nights" were the bee gees when i was a kid
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
then i realized that all the bee gees songs i disliked were actually the eagles
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
I think this is an excellent song. Agreed about the guitars.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
listening to this song for the first time voluntarily -- that's what's going on here, right? -- i think i am unable to separate the association of the eagles' singing/lyrics with boozy (usually old) sleazebags. i like the music ok, and the guitar solo was enjoyable, but i want don henley to stop singing every time he starts.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
i feel like eagles played every song just a little slower than anyone else would play the same song. so slow and deliberate. no wonder bluegrass people get such a thrill speeding that shit up.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Bernie Leadon was a bluegrass person!
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
I'm kinda surprised nobody's ever sampled the little guitar part between 0:22 and 0:29.
― 誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
"Bernie Leadon was a bluegrass person!"
yah not in the eagles he wasn't. okay crazy banjo in take it easy makes me a liar but in general...
they did country/downhome but it was often way slow country/downhome. though that's why this thread is good cuz there are probably hootenanny tracks i have missed. even their rockers are often very slow rockers. it was the suitcase full of valium...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
It's really hard to play fast with one of those suitcases cuffed to your wrist.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
I really dig Witchay Woman...I kinda wish they did more material with *that* kinda sound
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
and let's make sure we're putting ELO's Evil Woman our Halloween playlist
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
I'm still loling and agreeing with Carl about that 'rocking you in the night til your skin turns red'. I had a childhood fascination with that line too! It sounded very witchcraftian when I was a little kid, that she could turn your skin red but the rocking you was still not clear to me.
Now I'm grown up it's just like ew gross and also ow wtf
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
idgi
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
I assume it's just about sex now. She'll fuck you until you're... red? Maybe he means badly chafed.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
Yes, rubbed raw. OWWWW
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
that's all I can think of
who would want that, I mean
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Or at the very least giving you a yeast infection.
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
...
imagine writing about bad chafing, c'mon guys
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
...whereas VGs original interpretatino was on some I Dream of Jeanie, blink three times and *POOF* the Eagles have vermillion-tinted epidermis.
― how's life, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
This will not end well for anyone involved.
― Matt M., Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
And didn't we decide this was a song about Zelda Fitzgerald? Does The Great Gatsby have whole passages about bad chafing?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
tbf Tender Is The Night sounds like it might
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
OKAY I AM MOVING ON FROM THIS I FEEL BAD FOR BRINGING IT UP AGAIN
One thing I found when I relistened to this is that something about the riff (after the wigwam drum jam opening) is that it reminds me a little bit of Sherbet's 'Howzat'
something about the bassline maybe? but same kinda groove
...but it's entirely possible that these sound nothing alike to anyone but me and I just wanted an excuse to listen to Sherbet again lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Wednesday, August 21, 2013 10:07 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i wanna fly like The Eagles....
― Lee626, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
The main difference is that the Eagles weren't non-playing motherfuckers with only one or two sorry-ass albums.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm still loling and agreeing with Carl about that 'rocking you in the night til your skin turns red'. I had a childhood fascination with that line too!
This reminds me of MY childhood obsession with Donna Summer's request to "Do it tonight/You know the moment is right/Turn my brown body white" in "Dim All The Lights"
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
tarfumes we are gonna have to step outside. i love steve miller. he was putting out spooky 7 minute epics complete with orchestra in 1972:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJALQcCHuF0
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
"Love's Riddle" on that album...ahhhhh what a beautiful song.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
i actually don't even own any steve miller albums after that one. still, that's seven steve miller albums i have at home that i really like a lot. i like spacey steve a ton.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
I actually don't mind Miller too much. That spacey track is nice. But he hates the Who ("totally unmusical"), and Miles Davis hates him:
“I remember one time - it might have been a couple times - at the Fillmore East in 1970, I was opening for this sorry-ass cat named Steve Miller. Steve Miller didn't have shit going for him, so I'm pissed because I got to open for this non-playing motherfucker just because he had one or two sorry-ass records out. So I would come late and he would have to go on first and when we got there we smoked the motherfucking place, and everybody dug it.”
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
i remember hearing "witchy woman" on their greatest hits when i was a kid and thinking to myself "this doesn't sound like them at all," and hating it. it sounded too self-consciously "rock" to me, i think. i never warmed up to it, and then pretty much forgot it existed until i saw the eagles documentary. listening to it now, it sounds like it comes from later in their career. it would have fit really well on hotel california.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
Going to high school in a rural redneck town ruined Steve Miller forever. Steve Miller's greatest hits blaring out of pick ups, everywhere you turned someone clapping the claps from take the money and run, custom Firebird decals declaring their drivers to be gangsters of love, never ending Steve Miller Band nonstop for eternity.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
this phenomenon was not at all restricted to rural redneck towns.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
"and Miles Davis hates him"
you realize that this is a REALLY long list.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah, steve miller ubiquity kind of a nationwide thing. but i kinda feel the same way about his smash hits as i feel about eagles smash hits. just a part of the air for as long as i can remember. it would be like hating trees or butterflies at this point for me.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
The Who being described as "unmusical" is a new one for me. Thats a bad call
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
you know, trees that will try to sleep with your children and butterflies that will steal your drugs, but still...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
I don't have the exact quote handy, but Miller said of the Who's performance at Monterey (retrospectively, in 1987), "They came into the middle of this peace-and-love thing and did their tear-it-up bad-boy act. Totally unmusical. I thought that then, and I think that now."
And yeah, Miles pretty much hated everyone, but there was something delightfully hilarious about how he singled Miller out. He seemed to like other acts he opened for; he had nice things to say about the Dead, the Band, Laura Nyro, and CSNY (and while he never shared the bill with them, he loved the Who).
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
i dunno, miles said lots of mean stuff about lots of musicians. tons of mean stuff.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
Oh, I agree. I think his comments about Dolphy and Cecil were supremely fucked, and he was goaded into talking shit about the new music by anti-new-thing critics in a divide-and-conquer kind of way.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
Did Miles have any opinion about the Eagles?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
big fan iirc
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
He appreciated the fact that their third album was a track-by-track response to On the Corner.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, August 21, 2013 5:54 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I totally believe you. For whatever reason, SMB was most popular among the most rural farmer kids so I always associate them with that demographic.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
Good to know (and not really a surprise): "Witchy Woman", along with all other Leadon and Meisner compositions, was left out of the Hell Freezes Over project so those guys wouldn't earn any money directly off the reunion.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
heartwarming
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
bless their cotton socks, those loveable scamps
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
sooooo, i guess there isn't much to say about witchy other than its witchy and slow and it reminds us of seinfeld. and our childhood. and i like the guitars. its so simple really. that song. but what a formula for earworm immortality they had. plus, i think any band that has people singing the guitar parts to their songs is destined for a cash reward. i just made that up. but i think its true. that intro is so singable.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
just a part of the air for as long as i can remember.
So, to a lesser extent is SMB
I guess I'm too old to care about the fight now. They're everywhere, though fading, and I can't see fighting about it any more than I can about arbitrating the Dorsey/Miller beef
― Fais ce que voudra, occiderai de même (Michael White), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
i think i would like witchy woman more if it was don's only turn as lead vocalist in their catalog.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
hmmm. i was gonna say this was one of my fav eagles songs but it's kinda sucking right now. :/
the intro writes a check the song can't cash
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
The title writes a check the song can't catch.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
Cash.
This song is a steaming pile of poo. When I hear the a-ha's I think there's a bunch of 14 year old tricks squeezing their nads so they can hit the high notes.
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
this thread is, at this point, two for two on that score.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Given the drums on this, doesn't "rocking you in the night til your skin turns red" imply that the witchy woman turns you into a Native American?
― cookin' with bad (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
i thought you actually meant A-Ha for a second there. they could hit those high notes real good too.
x-post
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Supposedly, when recording, they sucked lemons to stay on pitch. I don't know how or why that would work.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
cocaine thoughts
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
Eagles Lemon Party
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
i like their harmonies on this. I mean, I like most of their harmonies on most of their songs, but this one in particular stands out for me
I like how henley's voice sounds kinda ragged like he's been up all night with the Witchay Woman... and when you listen with headphones all the Glyn Johns echo that they hated on their voices sounds really good SO SUCK IT douchebags
This is one of the laid-back Eagles songs that actually feels *naturally* laid back, instead of later forced laidbackness that sounds like they just came out of a meeting where Frey screamed YOU GUYS BETTER BE MORE GODDAMMED LAID BACK OR WE'LL NEVER SELL A BAJILLION RECORDS over and over.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
haha
― cookin' with bad (Eazy), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
Feel like I need to buy a topaz bolo tie just to read this thread. Bless you all.
― touch. zing touch. you've almost convinced me I'm real (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
Oh, interesting. I always thought of this as the Eagles' heaviest song. Maybe it's just that distorted guitar riff. I loved it when I was a kid. Has a cool spooky atmosphere.
Didn't realize these were tracks 1-2 on their first album. I only really know Hotel California as far as the albums go. Maybe that one is worth picking up.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
First album is p good imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
It starts off so good and then we start chuggin
― touch. zing touch. you've almost convinced me I'm real (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
must be obvious but "Witchy Woman" is such a Stills rip off, or maybe better a Buffalo Springfield rip off since the lead guitar sounds like a Neil rip off
I hate Stills btw
― Euler, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I thought of Neil Young right now too. Never really occurred to me before, somehow.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
Ralph Molina loves his tomtoms.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
that live clip really brought the neil-isms home for me.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
Wonder if Stevie Nicks heard "Witchy Woman" and thought, huh, these are my people. I wonder if Don thought dating her later was anti-climatic.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 21 August 2013 23:34 (ten years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6TXHpFIqcvk/Tq60CAFnd2I/AAAAAAAADrA/XAWQsFTFONI/s320/SNicksWitchyWoman.jpeg
I like how Henley switches onto the on-beat under 'woman' in the chorus
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 August 2013 08:50 (ten years ago) link
"Chug All Night"
http://www.eaglesfans.com/picture/chug%20all%20night%20-%20dutch.jpg?pictureId=10650896&asGalleryImage=true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRtCL2HeoEg
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:26 (ten years ago) link
oops:
http://images.45cat.com/eagles-chug-all-night-asylum.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
damn!
anyway, it was a single in Holland. god bless the Dutch.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link
hey, great intro...
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link
On the day that I die, well I just might scream If I'm alive in the morning Ill be alive in a dream You better listen to me baby Cause you know that I'm hung on you till I'm blind and black and blue
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link
No woman ever do what you do High on a pleasure wheel No devil ever cast a voodoo so long and dark and real We're gonna do a little chugging We're gonna do a little hugging The band is loose and the groove is right I'm wired for sound Are you wired for light? And you're so much woman, I believe we could chug all night
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link
the Dutch were apparently very big fans:
http://youtu.be/hF4aJwiFMC0
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
okay, i remembered how to do youtube links like that. i should probably do youtubes like that from now on? yes? no? so that this thread doesn't become impossible.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
so you guys keep talking about "In The City," so when I went to Spotify to see what the fuss was I realized I've heard this thing on AOR radio for years.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link
This is a terrible song.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Thursday, 22 August 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link
Opening chord sequence reminds me of We're Going Wrong by Cream. Otherwise this sounds pretty generic really.
― 29 facepalms, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
i was totally on board with this song and enjoying how well recorded the drums are (i could even hear the bass clearly) until "i believe we can chug all night" and then i started laughinglike actual hahahaha laughing
― no fomo (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link
The band is loose and the groove is right
this song doesn't sound very loose or groovy at all ... needs to swing more
not sufficiently laid back, two point deduction
― Brad C., Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
first person to have a poignant story that involves hearing this song when they were a kid wins a prize.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Almost sounds like Heart for the first few seconds. I mean, before any vocals appear. LL otm re: drums (no one can fuck with Glyn Johns). This is the best-produced Eagles song I've heard. Too bad its an irredeemable piece of whiny-ass reductive shit.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
I have a personal category of songs that are more or less songs I thought were parodies/commercials when I first heard them but are actually sincerely recorded songs (The Doctor by The Doobie Brothers (sure it was a Dr. Pepper jingle) and All Summer Long by Kid Rock (thought it was a MI tourism board commercial) are prime examples) and if I didn't already know this was real, I am pretty sure I would have thought it was a joke, chug all night/hug all night is just so stupid.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
kinda critic-proof. there should have been a choice hair metal cover of it. but other than that Dutch group doing it, there are absolutely no cover versions on Youtube. and believe me that says a LOT. there is only one clip of the actual song on Youtube. and someone put it up 2 months ago, so maybe Frey goes around yanking all videos of this song as fast as he can.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
this is rough
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
i was just thinking about how someone said on the other thread that old-ilx would never do something like this and i was trying to imagine marcello and mark s. debating "chug all night".
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STH7AxNmUY4
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
I like the introduction, I was expecting* it to unfold like The Stooges for a bit but better-recorded. The verses are better for keeping that urgency, but the vocals sadly don't keep up with it. Frey(?) really needed to cut loose here, scream a bit**. The oo-oos that appear in the second verse are too polite.
The guitar breaks are nice, and sound fantastic. I really like the 'no woman ever do what you do' bit, the bass rolls nicely. I can imagine Steppenwolf laying down this sorta thing.
The chorus is a disgrace though. The sentiment is fine - who among you hasn't wanted to chug all night? - despite the clumsy music/act of love parallel. No, the problem is the sheer laziness of the inner bar band here. That I-IV-I-IV progression*** and wall-of-backing-vox, cutting out on the punchline, we've heard it millions of times before.
FFS: 'gonna do a little chuggin', gonna do a little huggin'? I take it all back.
* not really** scratch that, he does cut loose in the main guitar solo and it doesn't work. Henley should've sung this, he's raspier.*** I'm making that up, mostly
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
I think this is tied with "The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks" for worst Eagles song...except that the music is pretty good. I hate Frey's vocals (there's a lot of cracking and deliberately ugly notes, and obviously the lyrics are mind-crushingly stupid), but the backing track is great. With better lyrics and a different singer, this could have been a '70s AOR classic.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
I like the introduction, I was expecting* it to unfold like The Stooges for a bit but better-recorded.
I recall reading some account of early John Cougar Mellencamp where he claimed to have been in a band that covered the Stooges, but I just can't believe it.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 August 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
Someone tell Robin Thicke we figured out what rhymes with hug.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
"I can imagine Steppenwolf laying down this sorta thing."
steppenwolf from this era some of my fave steppenwolf. especially the albums Slow Flux and Skullduggery. two good ones from that time period:
"Black Pit"
http://youtu.be/i9PfrbScLi0
"Gang War Blues"
http://youtu.be/IszBXYDXWm4
but the actual year that the Eagles debut came out, 1972, saw the release of John Kay's solo album where he did a really good version of Richard Farina's anti-imperialism epic "Bold Marauder".
http://youtu.be/BhUkjeMDADg
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
which is just a way to point out that John Kay and Steppenwolf in the early 70's had WAY more on their minds than the Eagles did. and that's saying something.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
Early '70s Steppenwolf albums are amazing. I love "Gang War Blues." But pretty much every Steppenwolf album right up to Skullduggery is great.
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
"Chug All Night" mostly makes me think of this guy.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 August 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
Not the worst Eagles song in the world. I can hear in my mind a million bar bands butchering it.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
Make them stop!
if you bought this album new and these were the first three songs you heard, i think you'd be pretty confused as to what exactly this band is--so far they've done prototypical country rock, soulful/citified pop-rock, and hacky bar band shit.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
i dunno, seems kinda typical stuff to me. but i listen to way too many country rock records.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
feel like in another era frey and henley would have been brill building or tin pan alley dudes. or own a shady little label where they would rip off r&b performers left and right. or despots in the mesopotamian empire.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
living in a river of darkness beneath a neon light
― no fomo (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
xp yeah that may be true! i feel like this is less coherent than i thought it would be but you would know much better than me
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
feel like in another era frey and henley would have been brill building or tin pan alley dudes.
Frey and Henley at one desk, Fagan/Becker at another...
― pplains, Thursday, 22 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
... Buckingham/Nicks naked under another ...
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
I kind of like this song. Ive never heard it before.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
it would take all my superpowers to think of something interesting to say about this song. again, the intro is really promising. even when the first lines of the song creep out of frey's mouth you COULD conceivably be in for something good. and it sounds fine, but the production does nothing for me really. a zillion 4th tier country rock albums of the time had production that sounded as good as that.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
the verses sound like a band in a garage just fucking around like 'hey what about this song'...in an ideal world instead of playing the whole song the drummer trails off after a verse and then they all just kinda stand around until Frey says, 'yeah I guess it wasn't that good' and they go try something else
but hey
the chorus is ok.
god the harmonies are not...very...good. or unnecessary. or something. like riding around with a dude singing along in his car but he's a beat behind so he comes in late
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
I BELIEVE WE COULD CHUG ALL NIGHTI BELIEVE WE COULD HUG ALL NIGHT
*falls down on the floor laughing*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
I BELIEVE WE COULD PUG ALL NIGHT
don't quote me on this but i think the two songs with solo frey songwriting credits on the first album are the first and last songs that he wrote solo. he's no dummy. or maybe they didn't allow him to write alone after this song.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
haha yeah I can see why jeez louise
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
the Dutch were apparently very big fans
FLying Burrito Bros were massive there
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
xgau:Actually, the protagonist of "Take It Easy" doesn't plan to make his stand alone. He craves female companionship--but please, no one who will stone him or own him or bewitch him or tie him down or let him down or do anything much but chug all night.
― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 22 August 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
bud scoppa:"Tryin'" and "Chug All Night" aren't great songs in themselves, but the Eagles use them as frames to hang their rock & roll licks on, and the controlled explosiveness of the performances makes them among the most exciting songs here. Glen Frey's snarling rhythm guitar is featured on these two, as it is on "Nightingale"; it's worth paying special attention to.
― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
I can't do this and the Elton thing at the same time
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
So this must be what it's like to hear an Eagles song for the first time.
WE'RE UP ALL NIGHT TO GET CHUGGING.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
hee hee hee
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
It's almost like Frey is a failed advertising dude who became a musician, and he's just using up his terrible slogans in his songs
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha OTM.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
but the Eagles use them as frames to hang their rock & roll licks on, and the controlled explosiveness of the performances makes them among the most exciting songs here.
jesus
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
dare i say, bud scoppa not otm
has he *heard* other music? do we know for sure?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
"FLying Burrito Bros were massive there"
this is true! and everything byrds. that one gene clark album only came out in holland.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
I believe we could bug tonighthttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4TwrnXluxjM/T6XkAujoWuI/AAAAAAAABII/B6ahF5gkjvw/s200/Orkin+Man.jpgcan someone photoshop glenn frey's mug on the orkin man pls
― no fomo (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
It's not already?
― pplains, Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, August 22, 2013 1:21 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This explains a lot. Friend/former one-time bandmate did a duo record with Janet Bean (from Eleventh Dream Day and Freakwater) of Gram Parsons covers that was commissioned by a Dutch label (and only released in Holland).
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
Maybe move this thread to De Subjectivisten?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 August 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
"Chug All Night" is the more faceless side of the band. Steppenwolf comparison upthread OTM--it also brings to mind ZZ Top (for some reason I flash on "Move Me On Down The Line" while listening to this) and Seger of the period. Joe Walsh could have done this in his sleep. Very much a 'First Album' song; you can also tell why Glyn Johns was so against them trying to really rock out.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
this reminds me of when you see a classic rock cover band at a bar and they sneak one original into the setlist
Glen Frey's snarling rhythm guitar is featured on these two, as it is on "Nightingale"; it's worth paying special attention to.
LMAO
if this was literally like the only rock song you'd ever heard in your entire life, i guess....
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
grisso c'mon man this isn't even on the same planet as ZZ Top
― usic for 18 magicians (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
zz top? seger? noooooooooo wtf grisso why u braek heart
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
In this case I think Glyn Johns echo is passive-aggressive because it seriously sounds like they're playing in a bar with a wooden floor for like 2 people
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
I was just pointing out what it reminded me of--of course those guys did it better!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
It's kinda funny that ten years later ZZ Top put out "Leila" which like halfway between LA: Light Album and The Long Run.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
The sheer superstar level of dudes like Elton John in the '70s put the Eagles to shame, no? Like, weren't there many months with multiple Elton albums in the top 10?
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 22 August 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
plus, elton was huge everywhere. don't know if that's true of eagles. eagles were huge here, but maybe not everywhere in the world.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
and speaking of mellow and Holland, i'll never forget when maria told me about living in the Netherlands and how nobody knew who James Taylor was there. we just live in a humongous bubble here. maria's cousin married the only non-musical taylor boy.
(that's the kind of thing i never forget. people's birthdays i'm not so good at remembering.)
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
I've been trying to find the line between U.S. and Australia with sunny successor. She knew the Eagles growing up, but not Styx.
Imagine saying "Domo aragoto Mr. Roboto" to an English-speaking person over 35 and them replying with "The fuck did you just say?" It was magic.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 August 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
Yeah Mr Veg gets a huge kick out of that too. Did Sunny know Journey? I didn't really know them either
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link
i used to love to watch the paul hogan show when i was a kid even though i had no idea who they were making fun of. rolf harris jokes and the like.
― scott seward, Thursday, 22 August 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
i remember hoges showing his butt on latenight tv once
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 August 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/yahoo-serious-film-festival-simpsons.jpg
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 August 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
"Those are all real words, but that sign makes no sense."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
No Journey. No Boston either.
― pplains, Thursday, 22 August 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
I meant I can't willfully force myself to listen to this much crap in one day. at some point I have to listen to something I know I'm going to actually enjoy
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 August 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
This is only a track a day commitment tho.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 August 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
yeah but I just listened to 25 Elton John songs in a row
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 August 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
this is the thread that i deserve
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 August 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link
Dang I was so excited about this thread but I didn't notice it'd been launched til today! Got all caught up on the train home just now (during which take it easy played 5x, witchay woman 3x, chug all night 1x).
Chug thoughts:
-I like how during the verses there's like no treble information at all. The guitars stay way down low with the bass and it actually does sound kind of sick. But it's unusual to hear this kind of thing recorded so immaculately. Imagine if the first boc lp was engineered like this!-during the verses I do get a first 2 boc albums vibe tho not from the vox obv. I guess that fits with the steppenwolf thing too. -is it weird that this lp has two tracks in a row where sex changes your color? Red in ww, black and blue here. -this is nowhere near worst eagles song territory. Not with ***spoiler alert*** James dean and Greeks and hole in the fkin world in the mix.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link
-is it weird that this lp has two tracks in a row where sex changes your color? Red in ww, black and blue here.
I thought this, too! What is their deal with having sex to the point of minor skin injury? And using dumb euphemisms for sex, too. I really hope the next song has a lyric about bebopping until they get calluses.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link
Yellow calluses, if the pattern holds.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 00:47 (ten years ago) link
I hate to say it, but James Dean gets in my head at least once a week.
Reading all about that new Lindsey Lohan movie? James Deen, byur-nur-chur-churk, James Deen, why do you have to be so mean?
Those probably aren't the lyrics, but hey.
― pplains, Friday, 23 August 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link
There are a couple of songs on Steppenwolf's Skullduggery (most notably the title track) that sound a lot like BOC. Of course, there are other songs that sound like '70s Waylon Jennings. And there's a jazz-disco-funk instrumental that closes the whole thing out. It's a really weird album.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 23 August 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
James Dean sounds so much worse than you expect, even with the title. Chug at least meets expectations
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link
(during which take it easy played 5x, witchay woman 3x, chug all night 1x)
seems like the appropriate arc for this exercise so far
― call all destroyer, Friday, 23 August 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link
take it easy 5xwitchay woman 3xchug all night 1xprofit?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
Tbf chug came just before I got home so there was no option of encoring it even had I wished to.
James DeanJames DeanWhy does your skin have that sheen?
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:44 (ten years ago) link
let's not get ahead of ourselves
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link
I wish I knew Glenn Frey's phone number. I would randomly drunk dial him every now and then and just play a chorus of Chug All Night and then hang up.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Friday, 23 August 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link
this thread is insane, i love you guys
"Witchy Woman"'s intro sounds heavier than i remembered it, this is really one of the only Eagles hits i'd really just totally dismissed out of hand anymore but it sounds pretty good right now. and i hate to be that guy projecting indie cred, but i swear i can hear noted '70s soft rock aficionado Steve Shelley copping a very specific fill in this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ_DEH9GHfI
― some dude, Friday, 23 August 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
"Fingers?!?! Is that you, you sonofabitch?!!!"
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
Xpost
lol I should spoof Felder's number to make the calls :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
God my ears need an edema. Glen keep using "chug" as the blueprint for everything you record.
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link
THE CHUG IS..... ON
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link
"It's the politics of contraband/It's the Chuggler's Blues"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:23 (ten years ago) link
Hey Scott, according to discogs Timbuk3 have 7 albums& 12 eps / singles.http://www.discogs.com/artist/Timbuk+3
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link
CHUG OVER IT CHUG OVER IT
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link
Perfection.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link
"What a neighborThanks for the favorShe's a very chuggy girl"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link
the kind u don't bring home to mother
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:38 (ten years ago) link
BTW, the "Standing On A Corner" in Winslow is just a facade - the building burned down several years ago. It's just a wall surrounded by Route 66 tourist junk.
http://www.koocanusapublications.com/rvwest_test/images/uploads/park1.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link
You can chug out anytime you likeBut you can never leave
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link
xpost haha that's even weirder
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
"Chug All Night" would sound like great sludge as a 45 rpm slowed down to 33 1/3. Also, nice of them not to finish the song with a harmonica flourish at the very end.
As long as we're revisiting "Take It Easy", I'll say that for the past two days I've been thinking "It's a girl my lord and a fat Rob Ford slowing down to take a look at me."
― cookin' with bad (Eazy), Friday, 23 August 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link
someone get REALLY drunk and listen to chug all night and tell us how it sounds. for science. i ain't doing it.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
Symbolic of The Eagles. Fake empty authenticism
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 03:00 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, August 22, 2013 10:58 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've been drinking a bit but not that much
― call all destroyer, Friday, 23 August 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link
Being a member of a particular secret mailing that was popular in the mid-90s is giving me spectacular laughs. Thank you all!
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 03:04 (ten years ago) link
I'm drunk right now, but I'm listening to Duke Ellington. Turning him off to put on an Eagles song is a level of sacrilege I'm not prepared to experience and/or comprehend.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
What a strange, strange, strange Google Street View capture.
http://i.imgur.com/9h9m2MN.jpg
You hear that? There's that bridge to "Witchay Woman" again.
― pplains, Friday, 23 August 2013 03:13 (ten years ago) link
"Most Of Us Are Sad"
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/whitcap/Jennie-and-Randy-Meisner-1.jpg
http://youtu.be/z1fka_Ow0M4
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:24 (ten years ago) link
Songwriters: FREY, GLENN LEWISMost of us are sad No one lets it show I've been shadows of myself How was I to know? Tell me scarlet sun What will time allow? We have brought our children Here who can save them now? Oh, weeping woman try to smile Like the coming dawn Most of us are sad it's true Still we must go on Love was here today Oh the sun was bright I will sing you faraway Love is here tonight Most of us are sad No one lets it show I've been shadows of myself How was I to know?
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:27 (ten years ago) link
"Randy Meisner appears on this album but was asked to leave the band shortly before the record was released. Meisner's exit was a result of his anger from being excluded (at Furay's insistence) from participation in the final mix playback sessions for the record, as only Messina and Furay were to complete the production. His image was removed from the painting on the album's cover, and replaced with the dog seen at the far left. His bass parts and backing vocals were left in the mix, but his lead vocals were removed, and new versions were sung by George Grantham."
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/88/Poco_1969.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link
replaced with the dog replaced with the dog replaced with the dog replaced with the dog replaced with the dog replaced with the dog replaced with the dog replaced with the dog
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link
intimations of randy meisner singing three dog night's "easy to be hard"
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 August 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link
that guitar sure does sound pretty though.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
Zylon Tex 1 month agoJust for the record, I've seen the Eagles documentary, I know all the sordid detail; Randy Meisner didn't walk out on the band, he was driven away by toxicity and ominousity, hostility of those who shall not be namedAmazing musician, mad respect
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:36 (ten years ago) link
i meant that in a good way! in an early morning reverie imagining golden smog covered "most of us are sad" too on their first EP
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 August 2013 11:37 (ten years ago) link
it could be a Low song.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:40 (ten years ago) link
how's his stuff after he left the eagles?
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 23 August 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link
"In 1988, a man named Lewis Peter "Buddy" Morgan started impersonating Meisner. He had previously been charged with impersonating Don Henley in Las Vegas, but skipped on his bail. Morgan's identity was not conclusively revealed until 1997. In 1998, he was arrested and spent 16 months in jail, but upon his release continued his charade and was still doing so as of 2009. In Reno, Nevada, he tried to use Meisner's identity to rent hotel rooms. He was not as successful as before with the ruse, since area hotels had notified each other of the impostor. Some people are not familiar with Meisner's appearance, and Morgan used that fact to con musical instrument manufacturers and retailers, casino owners, and women."
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:48 (ten years ago) link
i have never actually listened to randy's solo albums. i've seen them, but never played them. i'd probably like them.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fa/Randy_Meisner_-_Randy_Meisner.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/c4/Randy_Meisner_-_One_More_Song.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b8/Randy_Meisner_-_Randy_Meisner_%281982%29.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 11:51 (ten years ago) link
this is a sleepy little number. harmless i guess. i like randy's voice. the lyrics are.....weird.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
Hey, Zylon. GET OVER IT.
― pplains, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
The eclecticism continues. I really like this, to my surprise - I'd never go for such a dirge normally. It struck me as quite hymnlike at first, though I hear the country now. It's quite protestant in its plainness. The instrumentation is refined and the harmonies are lovely, and it resists the temptation to big up too much - a lesser band would've choired it up or done something horrid. Instead this is nice.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Pickin Up the Pieces reminds me of
http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/t/the-byrds/album-the-notorious-byrd-brothers.jpg
(I know it's probably apocryphal, but that doesn't stop me.)
― pplains, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link
i love pickin' up the pieces. one of the great post-byrds albums. lots of people who love byrds have never heard it. its up there for me with byrds and the grape and the buffalo.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
that's a horse
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
sure looks like david crosby to me.
― pplains, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
In the doc Meisner looks 100 years older than his former bandmates.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
I actually like this. It's pretty and... sad. Agree that the lyrics are weird probably because they are missing a line about sex and skin conditions, but even in their weirdness and clumsiness they are wistful in melancholy way.
in an early morning reverie imagining golden smog covered "most of us are sad" too on their first EP
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, August 23, 2013 11:37 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That is OTM. I would probably listen to that a lot.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
http://www.angelfire.com/rock3/deliverin/MEISNER/Images/RMeisner2007.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
This is pretty, but the monotony of the vocal melody/phrasing doesn't work for me. I guess it is supposed to have a hymn-like quality, but it seems more like a nice country song gone wrong.
― Brad C., Friday, 23 August 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
It's a chuggerly little song but I just like it rather than chug it.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
reminds me a little of Big Star!
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Ha, I was just thinking that! Kinda like "Try Again."
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
if it had more echo and sounded generally more fucked up it could be a sister lovers track.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
I'm glad you two have the weekend to think about what you just said.
― pplains, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
especially that guitar break at about 2:16 with the harmonies behind it.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
ha! i know but its kinda true!
come on that guitar solo! its totes bigstarian.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
Are we not doing songs on the weekends too? C'mon, we neeeeed sweet Eagles tunage on Saturday and Sunday
― some dude, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
i'll do weekends. i'm at work on saturday so i always have time. and sunday i'm just sleepy and lazy in the morning so again plenty of time. it ain't brain surgery.
i swear if ivo had put this song on a this mortal coil album in the 80's the eagles would have more love from indie rockers.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
If there were ever a perfect song to be sung by a ruthless drug kingpin in his private karaoke lair...
― The Bridges of Witchy Woman (Eazy), Friday, 23 August 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
the production/sound/harmonies are great
but the melody and song itself are really pedestrian and not great
the main "Most....of...us.....are sad" part is really lame IMO, stilted and not good phrasing
like a lot of eagles songs it succeeds in reminding me of songs/artists i like way more than the eagles
but yeah i mean the band could make records, they sound good, but they generally sound really good/pro so i'm not inclined to give them that much credit for that
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
yeah the overall feel is v nice, randy has a lovely voice imoand I like the sound of the guitar -- is it mixed with a keyboard or is that a specific type of guitar that sounds like that?
but the song sorta sounds like a low-budget christmas carol or a nursery rhyme. it's a bit of a plodder. but certainly a nice palate cleanser after all that chugging *burp*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
yeah he's got a nice voice
just saying i mean these guys are pros! but lots of bands in the 70s were pros, records sounded good then, people could play and sing, so i'm saying we can't endlessly give them credit for being real polished and good at playing, you can't compare it to how records sound like shit now
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
Really, this thread should be active exclusively on the weekends.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
Another very "first album" song, in the sense that they're just beginning to mine something that'll soon pay off in AM/FM Gold.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
show of hands, how many of us are sad
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
beat me to it - this sounds like the sort of thing that could make the cut only on their first album, made before they knew they'd become huge. Likable enough but forgetable, not exactly loaded with hooks.
Horse on the Notorious Byrd Brothers coincidental btw, just happened to stick his head out before the picture was taken. McGuinn said had he thought in advance about it representing the departed Crosby, he would have has the had the horse facing the other way....
x2 re: Pickin' Up The Pieces
― Lee626, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
at least they didn't turn david crosby into a dog! i still can't believe they turned the poor guy into a dog...
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
Having never met either, I assume Crosby is a dick and Meisner isn't.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
notorious bryd bros. is such a great album
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
last Buffalo Springfield album cover a weird one too - they couldn't get the band all together at the same time, so an unrelated photo of Neil was sort of pasted on next to the rest of the group.
― Lee626, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
yeah what's with those mellow guys they have more problems than anyone when it comes to working with each other.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
they all know stephen stills. that's their first mistake.
all of these bands had no clear leader and lots of songwriters, which caused contention
― Lee626, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of lots of songwriters, this track reminds me of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdRgdiSizFE
― Brad C., Friday, 23 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
So so so great. Top 5 sixties rock lp IMO. Maybe better than forever changes or village green.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
@veg the guitar is going through a rotating Leslie speaker giving it that keyboardy tone and it's the best thing about this really bad song.
― 29 facepalms, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
yeah it sounds really cool!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
fyi this doesn't even rate in the universe of bad Eagles songs. there's SO much worse ahead of us.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
Randy Meisner's old man crazy long mullett hair is awesome
― scott seward, Friday, August 23, 2013 12:18 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I thought the whole "Long night at Wrong Beach" thing was hilarious. "Three more songs and I'm gonna kick your ass"? Fuck, the Who or the Kinks wouldn't wait for three songs, or three seconds. They'd just start beating the shit out of each other on stage.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:30 (ten years ago) link
Meisner always had the worst hair in The Eagles, which is some achievement
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
henley's fro is something else, growing up with 90's floppy hair henley I had no idea that's what his hair looked like
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link
Starts with D and ends with Rugs.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
money, coke, and suitcases full of valium
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
Suitcases full of assholes.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
Gross.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
Frey: Hey, do you offer an asshole discount?Henley: Yeah, me too!Crosby: Can I get one also? By the way, you are a jerk.Henley: You are a bigger jerk!Frey: I'm not a jerk at all, but if I were a jerk, I'd be a bigger jerk than either of you, and better, too!Henley: That's because you work harder at it.Frey: Damn right! I've earned the right to be a jerk! When you put in the hours like I have, you get to be as big of a jerk as you want.Henley: Fine, be a big jerk, then.Frey: So you admit it? Then I deserve more money.Henley: Jerk.Crosby: Hey, has anyone seen my suitcase?Frey to Henley, softly, gesturing to Crosby: What an asshole ...Henley: Totally.
Guys in Steely Dan to Warren Zevon and Randy Newman: What a bunch of jerks. We should write a mean song about them.Zevon: What did you say about me? (does drugs) I'm going to write a song about you assholes!
Buckingham: Did someone say asshole?
Newman: I'm not going to say a goddamn thing ...
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
lool
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
Did Stills not get an invite to that asshole salon?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
Too big of an asshole.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
he was at the bar
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
meanwhile James Taylor is cashing his asshole chips on the road
Stills: Hey, what about me?A bunch of assholes: Oh, sorry, your invitation must have gotten lost in the mail. Are you still in Buffalo Springfield?Stills: No, that band broke up years ago. Assholes: Oh, that explains why it got returned, then.Stills: So, wait, you knew I didn't get an invitation?Assholes: No. We never sent you one. Collective mea culpa.Stills: You assholes.
James Taylor, sitting in a canoe, strumming his guitar and humming a song: "mmm, hmm-hmm, something about assholes, hmm-mm, mmmm ...." (sets down guitar and does drugs)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
Irving Azoff: I'm charging $500 a head for you to witness the once in A lifetime reunion of assholes.
Parking is free.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
$20 service charge and $3 facilities charge per ticket.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
Jann Wenner: I would like to induct all of you into the Rock N Rol Hall of Assholes-er Fame
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
JD Southern: Hey dudes, I brought nachos!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link
Gotta get ray "women can't rock" manzarek in there
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
And granddaddy asshole Mike Love.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
"i'm gonna carve you up and make you eat your own liver..."
http://www.therollingstoneyears.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/197_James-Taylor-69375-13.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
"I'm with stupid."
http://timeentertainment.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/james-taylor.jpg?w=720
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
xpost LOL
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
"glurrrrrglllslazzzzzzzz..."
http://usir.salford.ac.uk/27139/1/James-Taylor_low.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
happy couple
http://www.zoomerradio.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Carly-Simon-James-Taylor.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
former Apple recording star plotting the murder of John Lennon:
http://beatlephotoblog.com/photos/2011/09/135.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
okay sorry i'll stop.
"I'm with stupid" made me snortOL.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
no keep going yr killing me scott
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
http://rymimg.com/lk/f/l/1e76c86a50f2bc5bf7309a813fa3e7e1/1210942.jpg
http://eil.com/images/main/Can+-+Anthology+-+DOUBLE+CD-416805.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
the fuck?!
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Wow.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
Is there a story behind that (beyond "CAN are assholes")?
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 August 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
can you make that can cover with the eagles on it instead of can? i'll bet you could.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
Kinda weird how much Taylor looks like Billy Crudup in Almost Famous.
― Domo Arigato, Demi Lovato (Phil D.), Friday, 23 August 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
Don't make me wonder who the Malcolm Mooney of the Eagles was.
― pplains, Friday, 23 August 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
Damn, too late.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, August 23, 2013 12:31 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Leadon by far the best.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 23 August 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/picture_11_3.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
The Very Best of Stalin
― The Bridges of Witchy Woman (Eazy), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
"Most of Us (including Stalin) Are Sad"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
Witchy StalinTake it Stalin
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
Best of My Stalin
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
Hotel Kremlinfornia
― Domo Arigato, Demi Lovato (Phil D.), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
I do believe we could chug all night I believe we could hug Stalin all night
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
Joe Stalin, Joe StalinToo Fast To Live, Too Young To DieBye Bye
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
in high school a friend and I changed the lyrics of "Let'Em In" to:
Joseph StalinMao ZedongLeo Trotskyall sing along
Fidel CastroIdi AminVladimirLENNNNNIIIINNNNN(ooh yeah)
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
Frey = StalinHenley = LeninFelder = MolotovSouther = TrotskyWalsh = MikoyanAzoff = ?Leadon = ?Schmitt = ?
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5359/ecdg.jpg
Young Stalin would've looked amazing on the Desperado cover
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 August 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
Would read a Dostoyevsky knock-off set in the 1970s Los Angeles music scene
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
The Laurel Depths
― The Bridges of Witchy Woman (Eazy), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
Schmitt = Akhmatova
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
Crosby, Stills & Punishment
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 August 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
young stalin remarkably dashing, I must say
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 August 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
Trying to figure out who the Rasputin is in all of this.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
tom waits?
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
Maybe Zevon?
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
I like where this thread goes when there's not that much to say about the song of the day.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Azoff's gotta be Rasputin, surely
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
duh...
David Geffen = Rasputin.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
rasputin:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/04/25/Interactivity/Images/7%20john%20phillips.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
the spritual godfather of el-lay decadence. and you just couldn't kill him.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
plus, geffen doesn't look nefarious enough.
oh shit of course
john the wolfking of l.a. is such a great record
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
Dennis Wilson has to play a role in this. And Harry Nilsson, too. Basically, someone needs to do a '70s L.A. "Velvet Goldmine"/"24 Hour Party People." With everyone played by British or Australian actors.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
would watch
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 August 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
The Beach Boys did shows w/the Eagles in the mid-'70s.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
I bet Glenn Frey taught them a thing or two about harmony, says Glenn Frey.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 August 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
Wilson to Frey: hey man I was working out this song with 'chugging' as kind of a theme I'm kickin around, you wanna hear it?Frey: dude I already wrote a song about that!Wilson: aw man you have the best ideas!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
Show me weirdos + Glenn Frey.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
http://www.liquid-blue.com/photos/celebrities/images/2007-11-16%20Los%20Angeles-CA,%20GlennFrey.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Glenn+Frey+Chris+Littleton+2012+New+Orleans+rkcDCwug4J6l.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
Mike Love sued Glenn Frey over the rights to 'chug', as he'd written "Chug A Lug" (re:roof beer) in 1962.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsNWlM3fWmI
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if Walsh aside these guys still drink? I imagine Henley getting sloppy drunk after a solo cup of warm pinot grigio.
(the drinking habits of aging rockers fascinate me)
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
Xpost Mike Love sued Roger Miller too. He won't rest til he's the Chugmaster.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
Flash forward:http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/02/12/arts/12artsbeat-eagles/12artsbeat-eagles-blog480.jpg
― The Bridges of Witchy Woman (Eazy), Friday, 23 August 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
Later bulked out Frey is on some joe piscopo level of gross
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
as you probably know, it gets more tangled than that too - Dennis dated Christine McVie (not sure if this was around the same time Frey got with Nicks). John Phillips has a cowrite on Kokomo etc.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 August 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
You guys notice how neither Frey nor Henley has many solo songwriting credits?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 August 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
Xpost Henley got with Nicks (aborted baby Sara) and she also was with JD Souther around the same time.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
ah, right
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 August 2013 22:56 (ten years ago) link
I imagine Lindsey probably pissed on Don's lawn somewhere in that timeline.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
Love em and Lear em
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 23 August 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
"You guys notice how neither Frey nor Henley has many solo songwriting credits?"
as mentioned upthread, we have now listened to the two eagles tracks with solo frey writing credits. i think.
― scott seward, Friday, 23 August 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
Frey needs an editor to de-chug his lyrics.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 August 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Friday, August 23, 2013 7:52 PM
yeah and that's it! No solos until a song called "All Those Lies" in '82.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
I wish you guys could have heard "Living in Darkness" from The Allnighter (1984). The most frightening, unconvincing falsetto I've ever heard.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link
I've got a project for the weekend, just letting you all know.
https://sphotos-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/p480x480/397006_545012168868121_340575375_n.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:08 (ten years ago) link
http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyep2vQGFj1qj13p7o2_250.gif
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:13 (ten years ago) link
HOLY SHIT
Kicking myself that I forgot him. Wolf King is a great record, but hooboy has he left an evil shadow on this town.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:14 (ten years ago) link
The Zevon book desperately needs an index, but there is a Who's Who at the back and under the "Henley, Don" entry is this
Warren's relationship with Don was strange. When discussing whether or not he wanted a funeral, Warren said, "I just don't want to have to spend my last days wondering if Henley will show up." Henley didn't, but Timothy Schmidt did.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:19 (ten years ago) link
Also, am I the only one self-conscious enough to turn off my Last.fm tagging when reading this thread?
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:26 (ten years ago) link
bwahaha
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:33 (ten years ago) link
shame shame we know your name
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:35 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-o7_VVAoU
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link
if only we had listened to mojo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 05:45 (ten years ago) link
a line in that Mojo song reminded me of that brief time in the late '80s when Henley turned into Timothy B. Schmidt (or, "The Ponytail Years")
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/89/254840967_23dcb0527f.jpg
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/whitcap91/Don/dhjapan89aswtdid-1.jpg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 August 2013 06:05 (ten years ago) link
For some reason, this photo of Sonny reacting to Glenn's suggestion they change the name of the show to "Frey-ami Vice" came up too:
http://content9.flixster.com/question/66/91/19/6691195_std.jpg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 August 2013 06:08 (ten years ago) link
i wonder what his career would have been like if he had kept his creepy 'fro
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 06:08 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 06:09 (ten years ago) link
ok ok
how about Miami Chuggin?
you guys! we could take an ilx field trip!
http://standinonthecorner.com/
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/sharonjoy666/937835F7-D443-404B-9F31-09D4F3FC6EC5-5640-0000036F397E9F50_zps8aa806c4.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 06:19 (ten years ago) link
"Nightingale"
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/eagles1972cactus02.jpg
http://youtu.be/xBahwTC8eXY
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
this song is lame.
i think this is actually the first time so far where listening to one of these songs my immediate response is: LAME.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
They cut this after the initial sessions because the label wanted "More Henley". You can also see why Browne didn't put this out himself.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
in that eagle-hating salon article i defended eagles when that guy called them lowest common denominator but i don't know why i would bother when i listen to something like this. or chug for that matter.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 August 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
this song needed like 6 more months in the woodshed
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
jesus christ this song is like watching the lawn in front of my house die
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
This is okay but no particular reason why it should pass any cut. A bit strange that it makes it onto the same album as Take It Easy, let alone Witchy Woman which genuinely does have a touch of genius about it. If you took the vocals off, the verse-and-choruses are what a computer might come up with if you programmed it to play rock & roll.
But it does take wing for thirty seconds at 2:58 from "I get so low, and my mind's about to go ... but wait a minute". I like this a lot, there's some genuine yearning there - if that's been turned into a song it'd've worked fine. As it is, it should be a decent b-side.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
Maria heard witchay woman at Home Depot yesterday. this might be a good place to post if you hear an eagles song in the wild.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 August 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
i would love to hear Browne sing this. it totally has his melodic sense but it would only sound particularly good in his voice, unlike "Take It Easy."
― some dude, Saturday, 24 August 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
it's just the same old murder movie but they call it the news
Dig 'em when they're up. Dig 'em when they're down.
― pplains, Saturday, 24 August 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
Get a very demo vibe off this, a track a band throws onto the tape just to show they have more than four songs. The inert opening vamp is just ... nothing.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 August 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
Opening riff reminds me of the riff in Jesus Mary Chain's 'Sometimes Always'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WL0269xbykQ (start at 1.57)
I don't mind this, it's just that it doesn't really go anywhere for me. I kept waiting for a build or a hook or a something but it just kept going.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
would it be rude of me to suggest that you guys do the youtube link thing instead of the embed thing too? i just kinda like the idea of this thread being one thread, but i guess we could have a part 2. it could get kinda impossible with a million vids on here. says the guy who throws fifty million youtube videos onto a million threads.
― scott seward, Saturday, 24 August 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
Wooo that song is bad but also I forgot how it even went the second it was over so it's kind of ultimately neutral I guess.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Saturday, 24 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
bah, this band, but i'll read this thread periodically till you get to their version of steve young's seven bridges road and their song the sad cafe.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 24 August 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcYY-7AqOeo
― banjoboy, Saturday, 24 August 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
Agree no embeds fwiw. I want this thread to be openable so's one of us can print it out when it's done and bury it one night in a time capsule on Henley's ranch.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 August 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
Another day, Another bad Eagles song.
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Saturday, 24 August 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
no that's a good idea scott, will do
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
I want this thread to be openable
Ha, says the guy who a few posts earlier said of Witchy Woman it "genuinely does have a touch of genius about it," and referred to the band's " genuine yearning." ;) Me, I'd be OK if this thread was not openable.; Like a child lid on a prescription.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 24 August 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
josh
dude
take it easy
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 August 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
I guess it's possible that I may come to regret those posts, YouTube away
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 August 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
Nah that's not right, Witchy Woman is strange enough to deserve it
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 August 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:19 AM (16 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lolling at how the town of Winslow, Arizona is trying to make "Standin' On The Corner" a tourist attraction/slogan/image solidifier, it's like they know the only time anyone ever hears about Winslow is that brief mention in "Take It Easy", so they need to milk it for all it's worth.
As for "Nightingale", as a onetime songwriter I can relate to it. Sometimes the inspiration hits, and you think up a lyric that perfectly captures your situation in a unique way, and pair it with an inventive melody and backings of the sort you can only dream up at your most inspired, and through happy accidents in the recording process it sounds even better on tape (or whatever you record on nowadays) than it did in your head when you were writing it. But most of the time I'd be called upon to write something when I wasn't in the mood and had nothing to say, but just needed to force it and squeeze out a song for contractual reasons. And when I did, it usually would sound something like "Nightingale".
I must admit i got a good laff from that youtube photo though
― Lee626, Saturday, 24 August 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
"Train Leaves Here This Morning"
http://www.rockpeaks.com/files/imagecache/body/eggs/e/Eagles/002691-Eagles-Train-Leaves-Here-This-Morning-BBC-In-Concert-1973.jpg
http://youtu.be/UXy3hYqvstU
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 August 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link
this song is a ringer because a god among men wrote it. so, enjoy a wonderful sunday song.
Sighting: out buying lunch, Peaceful Easy Feeling playing in M&S
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 August 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link
This is really good, best song in days. I wonder what kept them from doing more Clark material (I know:$$$$$). He was a friend/drinking buddy of theirs in the early days.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 August 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
This is really good, but very unEagles - I'm guessing Gene Clark is the writer here, it could easily be a more country Byrds. The phrasing is nothing like any of the previous songs, which are all made up of short, hooky lines repeated and varied; this deals in very long phrases and is more interesting for it, even with the slower chord progression. I like the vocal harmonies, and the guitar in the middle eight sparkles nicely, though the chord change/quasi-solo at the end is unpleasant. The ending is good. Another one that's quite unlike what's gone before.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 August 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
It was a Clark/Leadon co-write from the first Dillard & Clark Expedition album from '68.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 August 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
whoah, this is nice. who's singing lead on that? bernie?
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
Reminds me of Jayhawks, at their most Burrito-ish.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
Yeah Gene Clark parts of Hotel California are heartbreaking, you can tell Hoskyns really loves his music the most
Such a tragedy, and he doesn't even have the Gram Parsons/Chilton/etc cult that he deserves
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
that's Bernie on lead vocals!
LOVE this so much.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
there's a tone to Bernie's voice that reminds me a lot of Marty Robbins. Really rich in the low notes, and he hits those really pretty high notes.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 August 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
What did he do after the Eagles?
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
piss off Glenn Frey
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
Played a lot of bluegrass and became a Nashville session guy.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
xpost lol Alfred
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 August 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
just for reference:
Dillard & Clark - Train Leaves Here This Morning
didn't know that was a single for D&C, or that The Eagles covered it.
― Lee626, Sunday, 25 August 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
Imagining alt-timeline Eagles w/Gene Clark. He dies much sooner there.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 August 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, August 25, 2013 11:22 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
actually Gene Clark does have quite a cult following (and not just on ILM), if not quite as big as Gram's or Alex's
― Lee626, Sunday, 25 August 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
Gene never had the US Indie following those guys had. Europe was another matter.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 August 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
i am all the cult gene needs! ivo turned me on to him in the 80's. thanks, ivo!
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 August 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
bought this today. listening now. so far so smooth. 1977. glyn johns produced.
http://img5.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/a0/7c/far_side_cafe/folder/1487945/img_1487945_47654944_2?1181883408
killer drum sound. tarfumes might want to pick it up.
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 August 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
oops.
http://www.rockandrollcollection.com/images/eagles/eagles_LP_1670.jpg
Interesting! I will check that out. I dug Leadon in the Burritos, and so far he's the best thing about the Eagles.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 25 August 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
This isn't technically an Eagles song.
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Sunday, 25 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 August 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
Dude, it's the Eagles singin' and playin' on it! Also, more Eagles (one) had a hand in writing it than in writing "Peaceful Easy Feeling" (zero).
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 25 August 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
It could only be more Eagles if the lyric was amended to "the train chugs out this mornin'"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 August 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
o/t but <3 <3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gamTAp1W4Mc
― bear, bear, bear, Sunday, 25 August 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link
who is michael georgiades?
my favorite song on that gene album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXuuJ9aZswA
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 25 August 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link
i think i would die for that album. like, if some country decided to go to war against No Other i think i would pick up a gun and fight until i couldn't fight anymore.
and hey remember links and not embeds if you can remember. thanks, the management (you do realize we will be here for months...)
― scott seward, Sunday, 25 August 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link
practice link (fingers crossed this is right!)
http://www.youtu.be.com/watch?v=oPghGSOrHFk
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 26 August 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link
"Take The Devil"
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa377/asusundevils/Randy-Meisner-and-his-twins.jpg
http://youtu.be/9kJiXvoWQHI
― scott seward, Monday, 26 August 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
the first Randy-written song! how exciting...
― scott seward, Monday, 26 August 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
sorry for the sound. its really hard sometimes to find an eagles youtube with good sound. their fans aren't that picky i guess. sometimes there will be three crappy vids that all come from the same horrible MP3 or whatever.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 August 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
anyway, he wrote this about Don I think.
i think we can safely say that this song begins and then it ends.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 August 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
Train Leaves Here This Morning: Grateful DeadTake the Devil: Bon Jovi
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Monday, 26 August 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
also, the YouTube for Train Leaves Here This Morning shows the album track listing and I was like, "Nightingale? I don't remember that. Did Scott skip one?" and went back to check and LOLOLOL
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:31 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Using the drunk stepfather deep cuts metric, I can completely envision my stepfather five beers in smoking a joint and really, really enjoying Take the Devil.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Monday, 26 August 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
This is some of the most convincing rocking I've heard the Eagles do, and it's still 3rd-rate Crazy Horse.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 August 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
it's funny how much more accomplished "train leaves here this morning" sounds than its predecessor on the album. imagine listening to this record without seeing the writing credits.
"take the devil" is....fine.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
i found it pretty boring and the singing was anguished.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 26 August 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
btw let it be clear that the only eagles songs i have ever heard are the radio singles.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 26 August 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, August 26, 2013
lethal combo
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 August 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
This one's pretty good. It suits them to stay away from the upper registers, which is a problem for a band whose appeal is largely based on vocal harmonising. When whoever's singing here heads upwards, the effect is not good.
The drumming's good again, but everything needs to be a bit rougher. "...3rd-rate Crazy Horse" is otm, see the opening of Cowgirl for what you can really do with so few elements. Would love to hear Neil take this on actually, the basic song is pretty good but he'd do so much better with the solos.
The all-triplets outro is confusing me, because it's crap yet normally I really love triplets.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 August 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
the trouble is Meisner's voice. He's got a dull guitarist's voice.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 August 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
i think he sounds a lot better on some other songs but yeah not as good on this one
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 August 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
Cannot help but LOL @ how this reads on YouTube: "Take the Devil by The Eagles"
But yeah, this is dull as shit, like "Wanted Dead or Alive" crossed with "Turn the Page". The first song in our survey that I've actually disliked.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 26 August 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
ooh take the devil is really dull
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 August 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
blink and you miss it kinda song. how many filler tracks have we had? 3? chug, nightingale, and this one.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 August 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
the gene clark/dillard cover is the first one i think i would go back to (as far as stuff that was "new" to me and non-hit single)
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 August 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
its a great song. even eagles couldn't kill it with their steely knives.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 August 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
when they recorded that glyn johns said ah! finally something i can work with!
― scott seward, Monday, 26 August 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
he didn't really say that. but i'd like to think he said that.
wtf is that Gene Clark version of Train upthread...? that is different from the one on Fantastic Expedition of DIllard and Clark. Is it some No Other outtake (why would they have re-recorded that for that album?)
asks a member of the Gene Clark Cult Fanclub
xxxp
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 26 August 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
The aura of Neil is strong within this one. Another one of those bar band "Here's an original..." kind of numbers. You know what does this so much better? The first Crazy Horse solo album.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 26 August 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
i love that crazy horse album. good stuff.
― scott seward, Monday, 26 August 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
it's kinda sad danny whitten never got to really develop as a songwriter...some of those like "look at all the things" and assuming he wrote "c'mon baby let's go downtown", could have been really impressive stuff
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
yeah, No Other outtake Shakey xxp. makes a good end for that rec too
― bear, bear, bear, Monday, 26 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Gypsies, tramps and thieves - oh wait...
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Monday, 26 August 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
Jesus, i put on a Poco album when i got home and it was like listening to Gentle Giant or Yes after all this Eagles music. The dizzying complexities of Poco! for real, it was like night and day.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
This is sooooo Prog compared to the Eagles:
http://youtu.be/dbHDvTgkxpo
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
i love that album. i really love poco. even if they turn future members of the eagles into dogs.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 01:23 (ten years ago) link
poco is like flying, i love listening to them & being caught up in the airiness
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
i've championed poco every chance i get on ilm. Just about everything they did in their first decade is grate, and remains underappreciated by fans and critics alike.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link
What kind of animal did they replace Timothy B. Schmidt with?
― pplains, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link
http://cdn.cutestpaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Hipster-llama-l.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link
Look at us, baby. up all night.Tearin' our llama part.
― pplains, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
http://www.poconut.org/resources/photos/large/bart_1354376323.jpg
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 03:14 (ten years ago) link
this don felder interview is like if al gore had become a rock star.
http://youtu.be/L86z-BUBp4A
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link
i forgot about the whole felder/leadon/stills/petty thing in florida. don gave tom petty guitar lessons. i read all that in the tom petty interview book and forgot all about it. felder and stills were in a band. leadon replaced stills in the band. here's a boring 60's garage rock song by felder and leadon:
http://youtu.be/U2v2xWHKqsk
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 04:14 (ten years ago) link
Here's some less boring '60s garage songs by the Mushrooms from Deee-troit, featuring Glenn Frey (and songwriting by Bob Seger):
http://youtu.be/rTweniDDDTY
http://youtu.be/sejypeDSfv8
I wonder why the latter track wasn't on Friday At The Hideout?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link
"Earlybird"
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/whitcap/BLeadonBorderShoot-1.jpg
http://youtu.be/VLItXksv4WU
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link
fun with the birds and the banjo and all, but more filler if you ask me.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:01 (ten years ago) link
The intro is kind of startling after where we've been, and tbf is very nice. The tune is by-numbers though, and the harmonies I'm now sick of. But it's short, and length is important.
A bunch of rich dudes talking down my life as a corporate drone though, that's pretty nice. I never get tired of that. It does make me wonder where I've gone wrong liking my life; would it really be better if I did kick off to a life of pure leisure? Not sure it would, I'd get bored. Identifying that life with the eagle is a bit egotistical though, I don't like that.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link
are eagles early birds?
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link
"someone get REALLY drunk and listen to chug all night and tell us how it sounds. for science. i ain't doing it."
challenge accepted!
― messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
A bunch of rich dudes talking down my life as a corporate drone though
Were they technically rich dudes at this point? I wonder when they actually got rich.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
wow, that wasn't very good.
funny, cause fuck the haters, the eagles are freakin awesome if you ask me. and drunk me was totally feelin "most of us are sad." but, really, it sounded way more generic and/or derivative than i would have expected
wait, we aren't allowed to talk about songs that arent the daily eagles song? sorry, i'm drunk.
― messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link
nightingale: ok, if i saw them live performing their new album right after this album came out, i'd probably think "oh and then there was this one song in the middle of the set that was like, not bad, except all of a sudden it had this kinda cool breakdown with those wicked 3 part harmonies and stuff. man, that band rocked!"
― messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
I like this one! Like being relative in that I will probably never seek this song out to listen to, but I enjoyed it. It gave me a nice road trip on a sunny day with the windows open and a gentle buzz kind of feeling. And come to think of it, the time in my life when I would get high and take road trips is the time in my life when I would listen to these lyrics and think, "Yeah, man, I'm not going to be scratching just to get through. I'm going to be reading books and playing crazy music just for fun!" *slaps travel-sized jimbe* So points for nostalgia and banjo, points off for dumb lyrics and mentioning the band's name in such a clumsy context.
― Lawyer... SUAVE... (carl agatha), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
take the devil:
ok, it's filler. but as far as filler goes, it's pretty decent filler. none of these have made me want to jump out of my armchair and yank the needle out of the groove and put on something else yet.
train leaves here:
and if they keep throwing out deep cuts like this, i'll continue to sit through decent filler in between the awesome
― messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
earlybird: i can really hear the peyote influence on this one.
― messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
earlybird is another killer intro followed by a disappointing song
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
^ this is the key thing to take away from this album, other than the big hits
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
I think I dig early bird. This goes in the first album keepers pile. Lyrics are lol and sorta remind me of the mr show bit about 'stayin' in bed all day/like an eagle hunting preyyyyy'
It has a thesis at least. Eagles seem to be at their best when there's some palpable thesis in the song.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
Wait, when did we start playing Three Dog Night tunes on here?
― pplains, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
hmmm, three dog night a good candidate for a thread like this...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
another huge band that sold a zillion records and everyone knows "one", "joy to the world", and a few others but meanwhile there is like 7 or 8 albums worth of stuff that people don't know so well.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
ha, well let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Can't put my finger on it, but there's something very "LIAR" about that last one.
― pplains, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
Three Dog Night earned 13 gold albums and recorded 21 consecutive Billboard Top 40 hits, seven of which went gold
!!!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link
http://i.minus.com/i81URoWpHkQ24.gif
― pplains, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
DON HENLEY WAS A BULLFROG
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
it all comes back to Hoyt Axton, the true Rasputin of Hollywood.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
I liked this! Good groove, the opening is sample-worthy.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
Ha! When I put this on in my early-morning haze my first thought, I kid you not, was 'Little Fluffy Clouds'
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
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the next Poco album had the whole band replaced with an illustration of a horse, notable because it was drawn by Phil Hartman
― Lee626, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
What instrument is on the intro before the banjo comes in? (besides the tweeting birds)
― Lee626, Tuesday, 27 August 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
Sounds like a kalimba maybe. Or the highest strings of a piano muffled/deadened with something.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
man i was really stoked on this song for about 30 seconds....for the first 15 seconds it was like an Os Mutantes thing or something....then the banjo was dope...
but then the singing and lyrics and vocal melody kinda bored the shit out of me
one observation i'd make about the eagles, at least thus far...man this is one band that seems pretty well represented by their greatest hits. those songs were the hits for a fuckin REASON
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 27 August 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
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― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 27 August 2013
surely just a guitar strummed above the neck
― zvookster, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link
First song I actually didn't hate, but still filler. Can't wait for "The Disco Strangler".
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
come back in 2017
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
It's kinda remarkable how Take It Easy & (spoiler alert) Peaceful Easy Feeling have the same core elements but are just way better than the deep cuts we've been laboring through. Granted Train Leaves Here This Morning is ok-ish but could they pick up the pace just a bit please? Sounds like it was slowed down a few BPM by the Audacity app. Anyway, what makes the hits noticeably better?
― that's not my post, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 05:40 (ten years ago) link
They were written by people not in the band? (And when that wasn't the case, it's a rarely utilized in-house team). A lot of what we know as "The Eagles" (Henley/Frey songwriting, Henley singing) didn't lock in until the next album (and it took a third for that stuff to cement).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 07:03 (ten years ago) link
"Peaceful Easy Feeling"
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/85316139/Jack+Tempchin+++St++Front.jpg
http://youtu.be/imhDevlc9OM
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
Jack Tempchin was in the band the Funky Kings, a band name that was misleading on two counts.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
Man, this would be so much better with someone other than Frey singing.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
like jackson browne
http://youtu.be/VNT979oO6Q0
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
Wow, yeah, that's more like it.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
i've never actually owned a jackson browne album. i like ned doheny. and rick roberts. and all those other guys. i like firefall.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
rick roberts kind of the lost eagles member. the eagles would have never thought to put the bongos and synths on this track though:
http://youtu.be/TK24Of-M11Y
― scott seward, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
always liked the couplet
I know you won't let me downCuz I'm already standing on the ground
since i first heard it on classic rock radio as a kid. it seemed like country wisdom i'd grow into someday when i came into my own
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
Don't know much about Rick Roberts beyond the 3rd Burrito Bros album, which I love
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
I despise this, it's so complacent. I mean, if you're dispensing wisdom about how life is so great, and more particularly how your life is so great and nothing's going to get to you, don't make it a midtempo major key number with a perfect arrangement and full harmonies. There's no way in.
The voice whispering in his ear, and what he learned years ago, maybe, and 'already standing on the ground' - they're a neat lyrical trick but neutralised by the vocal and arrangement. This guy's a winner, not a resigned loser.
How did these uptight prickly guys get a monopoly on easy anyway? It plainly was what the public wanted. A big slab of easy, medium done. No garnish.
The thing is, it's undeniably nice and beautifully crafted, and it's a pleasure to hear; it's just so empty.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
I like the long guitar solo though, nice and understated. The last few bars remind me of something off (I think) Exile In Main Street. I like that thin tone.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
peaceful easy feeling is a good song
but yeah this is a really mediocre album
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
opening lines for this, especially with Frey's delivery, just make me lol bcz they sound like bad highschool love poetry
I like the way your sparkling earrings layagainst your skin so brown
also I've related elsewhere that I always get a weird creeped out vibe from it, it sort of sounds vaguely threatening in parts if you imagine the dude singing the lines is like a Jim Thompson stalker creep
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
if i'm in a less than generous mood i hear the lyrics these days as a come on to a groupie (a la the faces "stay with me") but when i'm feeling it, it's not a douchey statement from some asshole winner but from a regular bro who's been through a few heavy relationships, reflecting that he isn't looking for romance to save him anymore
Oh, but she can't take you anyway,You don't already know how to go
acknowledging here he's gotten carried away, and appreciating what he has/who he is, almost as an affirmation, to prevent himself from seeing something that isn't there (yet)
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
i don't know if fairly ugly misogyny has ever sounded more genial than on "stay with me"
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
I can't be objective about this song because I've been hearing it my entire life. I can tell I'm going to get real tired of the casual, 70s dude sexism in their lyrics, though.
xp heh
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
I get this feeling I may know youAs a lover and a friend
I guess we found that seventh woman from "Take It Easy".
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
we need a venn diagram
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
Nice guitar work, but otherwise meh. In the Crowe interview for the Very Best of notes, Frey says this:
Back then, Poco was the band that impressed me most. Their vocals were pristine and perfect. They were the band I wanted to model us after. We loved all the singing bands — The Byrds and The Beach Boys — but to be honest, right then I had my eye on Poco… and I wanted to chug go beyond them too.
Classic Frey. I'll be a good boy & only link to the Spanish version of the Lebowski scene. Apparently this was the scene that convinced Allen Klein to clear the TVZ "Dead Flowers" for the film (he hated the Eagles too). Jeff Bridges later claimed that Frey gave him some shit about the scene, but he didn't remember specifics, other than "my (own) anus tightened as I listened to him".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 August 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
to me this sounds like early dylan in the full chords and shameless changes. there was a latent complacency & sexism in that folk/hippie scene that i always hear ringing in that stuff, readymade for crossover into this countrified americana. the retreat from the political into the personal that you hear talked of re: '70s Laurel Canyon scene etc. wasn't such a big one.
― zvookster, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
Anyone see the BBC doc "Hotel California: From the Byrds to the Eagles?" I've heard good things.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 August 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
"Tryin'"
http://randymeisneronline.com/images/poco.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fsWqJSaAMA
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link
a little sub-Poco filler to close out the album. seems appropriate. we just have one non-album b-side to go and we will close the book on this album. so close!
a little palate cleanser:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfQjLxAeRZo
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 12:13 (ten years ago) link
damn i've already forgotten my own rule about links and embeds. need more coffee...
More boilerplate. Again the intro is good, and the growly lower register that the guitars deploy suits them. I like the lead guitar, though it's completely standard; but the tame backing in the verses/solo spoils it. The bridge/chorus is much better. The breakdown and outro are boring, as are the vocals. They should just ditch any attempts at prettiness, or at least deploy them only occasionally for effect - it's not too bad when the harmonies appear one-word-per-verse, but the coda is rubbish. And for once the drumming's only wussy.
Overall the album scores a (4). Bitchin' one-two, thereafter mostly filler; but there are one or two good songs, and it always sounds nice. With a bit more confidence and more rigorous quality control I can see them putting out a much better second album. Otherwise wait for the Greatest Hits.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 August 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link
The guitar at the beginning, and the high vocals in the first line, reminded me of Rush's "Fly By Night."
Not a horrible song; if I heard it on the radio my reaction would be "That's the Eagles?" But I wouldn't be itching to hear it again.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
I mentioned the Eagles to my guitar teacher yesterday, and he went into a total rage, relating what it was like to be stuck in the back of the family car on a road trip, with no option other than AM radio, and hearing the same Eagles songs, over and over again, hour after hour. There was practically spit flying from his mouth.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
Nothing but good things to say about their musicianship and harmonies, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
this defines "innocuous"
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
Tryin' sucks.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
The message of the eagles s/t is that they need to get more negative ASAP. Their inner assholes are struggling to get out and this cap'n easytimes thing is stifling them.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
This song makes me realize that this is going to be a very long thread.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
it's a strong one!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
btw every time I click on this thread and see the photo of Glenn Frey rocked by laughter I want to strangle babies
The Eagles as babies, presumably.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
"Eagles Babies" with Linda Ronstadt as Nanny.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
no hyperbole, i think i could make a mix of 500 similar songs from that era that are all better than "tryin'". eagles are definitely testing my faculties. uh....the guitars sound fine...???
i do like the little echo blasts of multi-tracking on some words. "get back...!"
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
FREY: Listen, Randy. You're going to get out there and do "Take It to the Limit" and you're going to hit all the high notes! We're Eagles, man.
MEISNER: But I'm sick! I can't do it every night! I miss my family!
FREY: OK, then if no "Limit", we're going to do "Tryin'" instead.
MEISNER: [CRIES] Get Schmidt to do it!
― pplains, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
"In 2003, the album was ranked number 374 on Rolling Stone magazine's list of the 500 greatest albums of all time."
― scott seward, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
they need to listen to some more records over there at RS.
2003 though, there had only been about 510 albums released at that point
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
and Jann presumably has other things to do besides listen to 510 albums
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
He's laughing at you. He's laughing at all of you.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
I drove to work listening to the whole first album, and even though we discovered that a good majority of the songs are kinda sucky to some degree or another, as an album it really almost is the definition of easy listening. Don't crank it, just keep it down kinda mid-range or low, you can still think about whatever you want bcz it's not going to demand a whole lot of attention from you, and there's a nice innocuous groove for most of it. Which is not a thing I ever really want from music very often unless I've got a headache but, well there you go.
Does RS giving it a nod have more to do with it just being the *first* album and Witchay Woman and the bitchin album art? Someone shoudl find out if they actually listened to Chug.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link
Oh and re: Tryin?
"Hi we're Sucky Boston and we are gonna rock you tonight"
this rivals Chug for the worst song on the album imo. Randy's strangled vocals and general caterwauling and lame attempts to 'rock out' it's just all embarrassing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
my two big probs with it are 1) the total lack of coherence--too many songwriters, singers, styles, etc. and it doesn't really come together, and 2) a couple of songs that had some potential just feel incomplete and rushed.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
this reminds me sonically and vocally of Chris Bell-era Big Star. except it's way more boring.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
it's v boring
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
on't crank it, just keep it down kinda mid-range or low, you can still think about whatever you want bcz it's not going to demand a whole lot of attention from you,
Don Henley sex advice
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
lol otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link
I'm gonna bore you in the night until your skin turns red.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
loool
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
7 women on my mind, four that wanna to bore me, two that wanna bone me, one says she's a friend of mine
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
yeah the first 30 seconds reminded me of Big Star
what's with all the intros on this album being better than the song?
man, these guys were lucky they got Take it Easy and Peaceful Easy Feeling handed to them or they could have been just another forgotten dollar bin 70s band
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
they got those songs and still almost pissed it way--desperado didn't exactly light up the charts.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
v true re big star. a better lead guitarist would help. wonder what they'd sound like with someone like, say, joe walsh.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 29 August 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
if he joined now though we'd be robbed of some awesome james gang which shits all over every eagles song
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
I still think about what a bunch of idiots they are, that by the time they had Felder and Walsh, they made one good album and then a kind of meh album (and then whatever the rest was which uggggh). to me it's just, you guys should have been KILLING it with like 2 or 3 albums in a row of facemelting guitar radness
idk
then again with Herr Frey and Herr Henley, it's hard to see how it could have gone any other way
anyway i'm getting ahead of myself
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
I don't know about that robbing us of some James Gang stuff--Thirds was also in '71, and he just had the live album to go. If anything, we may have lost his early solo stuff--or "Rocky Mountain Way" would have appeared in On The Border!
But anyway, "Tryin'": Kind of a limp Stones thing. I like the opening riffs some, and the rhythm guitar during the solo. That's it.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
the thing that best describes this song, and possibly this album is that thing Billy Crystal does in When Harry Met Sally with the sad-dude-overbite dance
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_losovterVJ1qf7r5lo1_500.gif
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
ha!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
This is how I imagine anyone dances to the Eagles.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
Final analysis on Eagles, btw, since I didn't really play along: I like the three singles (always did), most of the album tracks are passable, and only "Take the Devil" truly sucks.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 29 August 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
btw every time I click on this thread and see the photo of Glenn Frey rocked by laughter I want to strangle babiesHe's laughing at you. He's laughing at all of you.
I too see them laughing at us for our grand endeavor.
― The Bridges of Witchy Woman (Eazy), Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
Perhaps we've inspired him to go over to Henley's and say, "Man, we've just got to do "Chug II!""
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
i was stuck at a light behind a car w/ an 'I <3 my Chug' bumper sticker and 'Take It Easy' came on the radio scan, i thought of this thread.
also learned that a Chug is the saddest dog hybreed of all
― saki, Thursday, 29 August 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
What's that, chihuahua pug??? No way, when I was a kid we had a part pug/part chihuahua and she was the cutest best dog. Her name was Susanna.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
woah saki
that's crazy
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
No it's a cross between a CHUD and a pug
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
Oh well yes that is terrible.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 29 August 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
cross between a CHUD and a pug
LOL A+
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
Meisner's vocals on "Tryin'" remind me of Steve Marriott a little.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 29 August 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild report: I'm just leaving an all-nite diner, one of those places with a jukebox that nobody plays, so the machine cycles through stuff on random play mode all the time. The final two selections for my visit were "The Heat Is On" and "New Kid In Town". Hearing them back to back like this kind of reinforces how odd that the same guy was responsible for both.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 08:06 (ten years ago) link
playing catch-up:
1) i still like the singles okay (in a noncommittal, out-there-in-radioland sort of way), but everything else pretty much sucks.
2) retrospective sleaze awareness aside, "take it easy" isn't particularly sleazy, not in light "girl, you'll be a woman soon" and "you've never been this far before".
3) i like clips are a hell of a lot better than the studio stuff. should have been a jam band.
― IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Friday, 30 August 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link
"Get You In The Mood"
http://www.nnoa.biz/Pics/gfreymug1.jpg
http://youtu.be/1ISeIBF0N8k
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
non-album b-side and there you have it. its a real barn-burner too.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link
Small brownLong blueMustache normal
― carl agatha, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
"Thank you for coming everybody. I'm Glenn and we are EAGLES! Please don't forget to tip your waitress on the way out." *extended mood jam*
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
The last girl I hit onwasn't very pretty
smdh
― carl agatha, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
I was unmoved until ~ 3:15 (the "extended mood jam"). That was good.
― carl agatha, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link
"I get so wasted in the city/Last girl I hit on wasn't very pretty"
for the AGES!
haha x-post
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link
http://www.heyreverb.com/files/2010/05/henley.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link
oh gross.
― carl agatha, Friday, 30 August 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link
along with "chug", this one's working awful damn hard to convince me that i hate the fucking eagles
― IIIrd Datekeeper (contenderizer), Friday, 30 August 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
i didn't totally hate this onethe sun is your clownhis singing is overzealous and far to the front for my liking but i like the slow tempo and the jam is ok (unfortunately there's only like 30 sec of it)
also -- i heard "life in the fast lane" in the car yesterday and it sounded just as atrocious as it always has. just AWFUL and loathsome. i also heard "hotel california" the other day (also on the car radio) and it sounded like the dr teeth & the electric mayhem, like it always has. (i figure this thread could be used for noting when eagles songs are heard in the wild)
― no fomo (La Lechera), Friday, 30 August 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
ok... it's still a stretch, but this is the closest we've come to Chilton yet.
― pplains, Friday, 30 August 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
This is okay. I think my feelings so far is that this band is so stiff and uptight that any hint of them cutting loose seems much wilder than it is. So the meandering verses here, or the growling intros elsewhere, sound like a band you'd keep an eye on; whereas in reality they rock out like a barbershop quartet.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 August 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
"(i figure this thread could be used for noting when eagles songs are heard in the wild)"
yah! i actually asked people to do this upthread.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
First thought (on "Mood") was, "This would sound a lot better if Ronnie Van Zant was singing instead of Glenn Frey."
Then I realized that applies to everything Glenn Frey ever sang.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild: "Take It Easy" at Walgreens, 10:45 p.m.
― The Bridges of Witchy Woman (Eazy), Friday, 30 August 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
This "Mood" song is the lamest shit I've ever heard in my life, jesus fuck even for a b-side what a bunch of losers
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
yet their pal Linda is fucked: Linda Ronstadt - Classic or Dud?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
so sad....in Hotel California which has come up a bunch on this thread, she's one of the few people that comes across as really genuine and generous in that whole scene :(
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
I thought I recalled owning the 45 of "Take It Easy" when I was a kid, but I definitely have never heard "Mood" before in my life. M@tt OTM, this is horrible.
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Friday, 30 August 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
like i said in the other thread, in that hotel california book the ONLY people who come out smelling like a rose are linda ronstadt and jackson browne. i can't recall anyone interviewed for the book who had anything negative to say about those two. which is not the case with everyone else in the book.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
In the other laurel canyon book graham Nash seemed pretty chill and decent too.
― Spot Lange (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
I'm gonna dissent here; I actually like this song, especially the guitar solo outro. It's available individually on Amazon MP3, too; I think I might tack it onto the debut album in my iPod.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 30 August 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
idk why but I always get the feeling that Graham Nash is a secret dick. He seems chill and decent p much all the time, but in a way that makes me suspicious that he's just doing that bcz Stills and Crosby couldn't hide it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
unsupportable theory, just the weird way my brain works
He is a secret dick. Every quote I've read suggests he's intensely conscious about PR and projecting affability. Besides, Neil Young must have had a reason to always find excuses to stop hanging out with him.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
i don't know if i've heard this before or if it's reminding of something else with a similar chord progression.
pplains otm re Chilton
― |citation needed| (will), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
maybe Neil just wanted to play with his train sets more
― Euler, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
Is Neil a good guy? I mean I'd love to hang out with him, but I'm not sure I'd be expecting a mellowed-out good time as such.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
I have friends who've worked for Nash creating album art and they say good things about him fwiw
― Euler, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
love neil but i'd bet he's pretty prone to dickishness.
― |citation needed| (will), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
Neil's dickishness is more charming than Nash's mushy hippie passive aggressive kindness
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
I mean, I'd kick both out of bed and so would you.
maybe for celeb watching but irl I'd rather chat with Nash than try to figure out Neil's moods
xp ha
― Euler, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
i would love to hang out with graham nash! he probably knows where all the good restaurants are.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
Neil seems like a bit of an ornery dude, like I dunno that he doesn't hide how he feels as much --seems like he could be hard to work with if he didn't like you but otherwise, I mean it's Uncle Neil!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
neil though...would be like hanging out with dylan. does he like me? does he think i'm stupid? wait, when he asked me how i liked the lobster was he being sarcastic? oh god he hates me! oh no maybe if i tell him again how awesome he is...
too much pressure.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
he came across fairly dickish more than once shakey.
he was mean to America. America! like, i get that they were phony bubblegum ripoffs, but you're friendly with the fucking EAGLES.
― |citation needed| (will), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
well, I'd insist he pick up the check
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
actually i guess that applies even more to Randy Newman (who is surely a dick)
but those America guys might be total dicks, too. who knows.
― |citation needed| (will), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
my pal george on marthas vineyard opened for neil and dylan when he was drumming for dinosaur and i was really hoping he would have juicy stories but he said they never saw those dudes they would just appear on stage when it was time to play. they didn't hang with anyone. probably depends on their mood. they are probably so sick of people.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
someone told me a story about a renowned dick. a local guy here was in new orleans having dinner with people and one of the people was in los lobos and at the table next to theirs was paul simon and everyone at the los lobos table was talking about richard thompson and paul simon leaned in and asked them who they were talking about and they told him richard thompson and paul simon had no idea who that was. i thought that was weird. someone told me that yesterday. also thought it was weird that they were dining with a guy from los lobos given the whole simon/los lobos debacle.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
just thought i'd share that.
paul simon is secretly lame! haha.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
I don't know—never having heard of Richard Thompson feels like a good thing to me. I wish I'd never heard of him.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 30 August 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
77 thread title
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
oh come on -- everyone paul simon's age should know who richard thompson is esp if they used britfolk melodies to sing about parsley
― no fomo (La Lechera), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
lyrics aside, "mood" makes me think of some throwaway Stills/ Manassas cut (p great album btw)
― |citation needed| (will), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
There's a lot of things Paul Simon doesn't know.
He goes, "Yeah, I did this in Louisiana with this zy decko guy." And he kept saying it over and over. And I remember having to tell him, "Paul, it's pronounced zydeco. It's not zy decko, it's zydeco."
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
haha!oh paul simoni should have said everyone in his peer group, not his agei would def expect paul simon to know who richard thompson is by name if not necessarily by sight
― no fomo (La Lechera), Friday, 30 August 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
I was at the dentist yesterday and he was telling me how his kids went to school with Neil's kids, which he was unaware of until Neil started showing up at PTA meetings ("looking like a homeless guy") and chatting up the other parents. he said Neil was really nice, invited folks back to his ranch, which he said was huge but not ostentatious, really pretty psychedelic stained glass, barns, etc.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
Turned out it was all a ruse to get them to invest in PONO.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
i worry about pono sometimes
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
Whatever else Young's a superb dad by all accounts. It wouldn't surprise me that he and Pegi would be sweethearts to PTA parents; the latter want nothing out of him.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
yeah i wouldn't be surprised if neil was nicer to just some random person that would talk to him about cars or the weather or something than a fan who loved his music
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
fwiw my dentist was not a "fan" of Neil and didn't recognize who he was
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
last year at the bridge benefit we were sitting behind this couple and their 2 little kids, and at some point I told the wife how cute her kids were. she said that a couple of years ago her sister had been babysitting the kids and took them to a diner near Redwood City. This guy who turned out to be Neil Young was ordering coffee and noticed the kids, and came over to the table and told the sister how adorable they were etc, he ended up sitting down at the table with her and talking to the kids and playing with them. Sister says to the waitress after he left, 'what a nice man' and the waitress gives her a look and says, 'That was Neil Young'
I was just about yelling at the woman HOLY SHIT YOUR SISTER DOESN'T KNOW WHO NEIL YOUNG IS?
but it was a really beautiful story
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
Paul Simon also doesn't know who Neil young is.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
that woman was paul simon
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
Sweet baby Paul
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 30 August 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
This song is like the bastard child of Alex Chilton (pplains otm) and Stephen Stills (will otm, but lyrically this is like him too--remember his tmi jams "Make Love To You" and "Fair Game"?) (not Manassas, but whatever). Was this the song that got dropped for "Nightingale"? Weird that it never got collected on an album--you'd think with so little rare or unreleased Eagles material it would have been on the box set or something.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
Also, I had to grab my copy of CSN to sure I had "Fair Game" correct, and Chilton's Free Again was directly under it in the stack. Eerie.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
"Make Love To You" and "Fair Game"?
ha i don't know these but going to listen to them right now
― |citation needed| (will), Friday, 30 August 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
I bet Neil is fine to hang with, but his circle is pretty tight. Randy Newman is a bro, don't think he's a dick, have talked with him a few times and he was cool. There is no way Paul Simon did not know Richard Thompson, or if he didn't, he had surely heard him in Fairport, or whatever. Maybe he misheard? Los Lobos guys I have heard could be dicks. To this day I know people who dread booking them because they shut the place down. They are always the last to leave, with the bar dry.
Was reading the Sammy Hagar book, and he and Eddie played the Bridge School benefit once (!). Paul Simon was there and asked Eddie if he wanted to do "Sound of Silence" and Eddie didn't know it. Now that I believe.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzZsl1YVkZw
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Dying here. That EVH cameo is straight out of St. Sanders.
― Vast Halo, Friday, 30 August 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2012/10/the-vexing-simplicity-of-neil-young.html
"On the ride Young told me that he didn’t read, but I might have guessed anyway. He was a reserved and slightly grave figure, and talking with him was like being trapped with someone whose mind had no reach. He could only talk about what he felt or had seen or thought. I couldn’t respond to one of his remarks by raising an idea it had made me think of and have him make some connection to some other thought and then respond to that. A part of him seemed to have been arrested at a very early age."
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
plus, he's a victim of Stills abuse. hard to come back from.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
again in that hotel california book people were dumfounded that neil would hang with stills for so long cuz stills was so horrible to him. but neil loved jamming with stills so i guess that was worth it.
― scott seward, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
probably a lot more of that in the shakey book i haven't read it.
btw never believed that line about Young not reading.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
scott! You'll love the Shakey book!
Young probably got his licks in on Stills too. That story in Sharkey about Young conning Stills into overpaying for a guitar could just be the tip of that cocaine iceberg.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
"Shakey"...stupid pono phone.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
if Stills had been in the Eagles then I would understand the hate for the band that's the genesis of this thread. & I like CSN! but Stills is gross and his CSN(Y) (& springfield) songs are by and large the worst of those bands. BLAHHHHK QUEEEN oh fuck you
― Euler, Friday, 30 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
well, the dude did write the lyric "Forgive me if my fantasies might seem a little shopworn."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles didn't need Stills...they had Frey!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 August 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Dallas Taylor's book is worth checking out for lots of disturbing CSN stories.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Saturday, 31 August 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link
"Doolin-Dalton"
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FkHsCg7rmtw/UBPcSFnuVFI/AAAAAAAAALg/8iSnR8vDo98/s1600/EaglesPlus.jpg
http://youtu.be/-dzW2jzWdds
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
it took four members of the brain trust to write this song:
"Doolin-Dalton" (Glenn Frey, J. D. Souther, Don Henley, Jackson Browne)
and to be fair it actually sounds like an effort, you know? they were trying, man.
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
at least they look like they could hit a gay bar
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
"Graveyards filled with tombstones, waiting for the names" -- this is not how tombstones work iirc
― Brad C., Saturday, 31 August 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
I always thought this look was pretty dope. Looking forward to finding out why it bombed.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
well, not making "desperado" a single might be one reason!
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
It wasn't?!
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
and Alice Cooper's was still better.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
"tequila sunrise" and "outlaw man" were the singles.
Year Single Chart Position1973 "Outlaw Man" Billboard Pop Singles 591973 "Tequila Sunrise" Billboard Pop Singles 64
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
the album got to number 41 in the states. did better on canadian charts. which makes sense as canada was suffering from stampeders fever.
http://s.cdon.com/media-dynamic/images/product/music/album/image5/rubes_dudes_rowdies_import-stampeders-1195523-frnt.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
stampedin' into your heart!
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/2CPt3eSBJiQ/maxresdefault.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
As with the first LP, you can spy the path of an alternate Eagles here: a mildly ambitious country-rock band that petered out around 1975. Fair to say this is the most Leadon-influenced album?
― col, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
my pal michael robbins wrote the best Eagles poem. i forgot about it. i wish i could copy it here but i don't know how to copy googlebooks stuff. its here:
http://books.google.com/books?id=SC-ptkaj8UQC&pg=PT43&lpg=PT43&dq=%22michael+robbins%22+%22desperado%22&source=bl&ots=MxctQbFe4e&sig=1YzF915aX3GqB0iedfP4tWRfOCA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=UhAiUvPuE_PHsATGkYHIDg&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=%22michael%20robbins%22%20%22desperado%22&f=false
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Yeah this is really good, can hardly fault this at all. Maybe have Henley singing the whole thing, The Eagles need a bit of grit and he's the raspiest. This has plenty grit even without that though, and the great merit of cutting in with a minor chord or something whenever things start to get trite ('lay down your law books...' - in fact the end of every verse, which is nicely done).
It's a good piece of writing, nice arrangement (harmonica suits them well), and pretty much ideal to open a concept album. I suspect said concept album is going less interesting places than it might, but that's another day. Best since Witchy Woman anyway.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
I love this song, not gonna front
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
I like this one. It achieves that rare feat of a concept album track being able to both set up a narrative and push the story ahead within a 3:30 run time. The "Better keep on movin'" part reminds be of the Derek & The Dominoes version of "Little Wing".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Never heard this album (apart from the singles) all the way through. Henley's vocals on this reminds me of Rod Stewart a little. Was ready to launch into a Two Minute Hate, but it's a good song.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/4vX9v-RF9Es/hqdefault.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
ha, everyone was so ready to hate. hey, this song is good!
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
i was looking forward to this album tbrr
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
i was talking to this great guy i know - he's a musician who performs under the name Dredd Foole - and i asked him what his earliest memories of the eagles were. what he thought of them at the time. and i kinda figured he would wrinkle his nose and all that, but he said that Desperado was an album that really meant a lot to him at the time. that album and Carney by Leon Russell. those albums fit his mood/frame of mind at that moment. it made me want to play them both.
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
My favourite Eagles record fwiw
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
(I used to have that first Dredd Foole album!)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 31 August 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
Missing two pages (stupid Googlebooks), but here's Grace Lichtenstein's essay on the Desperado lp from Stranded
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
I had the first dredd foole and the din album too!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
I like that essay; stoked for the album now
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
This is decent, but it kind of makes me think that, in their heart of hearts, they really wanted to be the west coast Band.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
^^^
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
I had the Dredd Foole and the Din album too. Downloaded it to hear it again a few months ago, in fact.
― 誤訳侮辱, Saturday, 31 August 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
I was 12 or 13 the first time I heard this album, my dad or step-mother owned a copy.
This track felt portentous, like the opening scenes of a grown-up Western. I'd seen "Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid" but but this seemed darker and meaner: Bill Dalton is not buying either God's will or the law books, he's cussing, he's clearly a serious outlaw. His sidekick appears out of nowhere and joins up like one of the Magnificent Seven. They ride out. To be continued!
At this point I was totally on-board. I loved how the album cover looked like the Time-Life "Old West" books I was getting in the mail:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Thecowboys.jpg
― Brad C., Saturday, 31 August 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
Don't get the love for this one; find it rather dull and unspectacular country-rock, especially for an album opener.
― Lee626, Saturday, 31 August 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Wow, the Time-Life "Old West" series!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8kZDZ4eXXk
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
http://img0.etsystatic.com/001/0/5863214/il_570xN.352465900_mckg.jpg
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
in the 70's there were Osmonds...and lots of cowboys.
and Osmonds dressed as cowboys. obviously. from time to time anyway.
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:08 (ten years ago) link
[osmondscrazyhorses.jpg] haha xpost
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:12 (ten years ago) link
Well they were a little bit country iirc
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
The story of the Desperado artwork:
http://youtu.be/lcTTdwv1Xp4
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
"Twenty-One"
http://www.rockcellarmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Henry-Diltz-Eagles-Gunfire.jpg
http://youtu.be/k-L_sxkI9xY
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
Digging this. Maybe because it reminds me of the Flying Burrito Brothers' "Christine's Tune." But so far, my favorite/least-annoying Eagles harmony singing.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
pretty much "Son of Earlybird" but fine enough (Leadon's main lyrical theme of the time was "being young and a slacker is great, man"---hell, there are worse themes).
― col, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
The subtitle “Musical Memoir” signals what Ms. Ronstadt’s book is about, but also what it’s not about — the hedonistic excesses of the pop star’s life. She sidesteps the rampant drug use, though in conversation she acknowledged, “I tried everything,” including cocaine, which she did to such excess that she needed to have her nose cauterized, twice. For Ms. Ronstadt, who was often the only woman on the bus and in the hotel, those were not always happy times. “All the men chased girls,” she said. “They were good guys,” she reflected. “Well, no they weren’t. They were cowboys. They were gunslingers.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/01/arts/music/linda-ronstadt-discusses-her-memoir-and-parkinsons.html?pagewanted=1&_r=0
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
I keep hearing songs like this and going, Really? The best-selling American band of all time?
But then I look at the list, see that ABBA even beats them and go, Damn, American bands. Get with it.
The BeatlesMichael Jackson,MadonnaLed Zeppelin,Elton JohnPink FloydMariah CareyCeline Dion,AC/DCWhitney HoustonThe Rolling StonesQueenABBAEagles
― pplains, Sunday, 1 September 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
Doolin Dalton is nice and I like 21, I'm a sucker for banjo ..not a bad start
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles have the best-selling album in the US, but Thriller still trounces it in the rest of the world.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
Best selling album in the U.S. that's not a compilation by an American band : Rumours
Best selling album in the U.S. that's not a compilation by a full-blooded American band: Appetite for Destruction
Best selling album in the U.S. that's not a compilation by a full-blooded American band not from California: Boston
― pplains, Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
Nice one. A cool step back from "Doolin'"'s cinematic panorama. Who's on dobro?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
Bernie.
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 September 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
Fleetwood Mac is an American band?
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 1 September 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
the restrictive clauses are confusing
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 September 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
I think of them as more of a multinational, the result of a series of well-planned mergers.
― 誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 1 September 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
They are not coming to your town, nor will they help you party down.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 September 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 September 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
That's why I had to add "full-blooded" to the next one. Thank God it wasn't Foreigner.
― pplains, Sunday, 1 September 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
I wasn't aware until this week that Desperado and its singles sold relatively poorly upon its release. Unless there's some deep cuts I'm unaware of (and of course, there are many), I think they gave up this banjo-y stuff once they made it huge.
― Lee626, Sunday, 1 September 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
It's going to be weird doing a concept album day-by-day. What'm I supposed to say about Twenty-One? It's a banjo-led ditty that doesn't sound like The Eagles. I'd never listen to it if we weren't doing this thread. It's ... I don't know what it is.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
Xpost Actually there's banjo stuff as long as Leadon was in the band.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 1 September 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
makes sense
― Lee626, Sunday, 1 September 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
I had this silly image in my head of Bernie Leadon just constantly walking around playing banjo the whole time he's in the Eagles, it's just that they only decided to mike him every now and then
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 September 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link
so far, this is my fave deep cut. it moves, it's got some banjo, and, well, the competition from the other deep cuts isn't all that strong.
― that's not my post, Monday, 2 September 2013 06:04 (ten years ago) link
You have to be 21 if you want to chug all night.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 September 2013 06:06 (ten years ago) link
Makes me wish this was on Desperado.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 September 2013 08:48 (ten years ago) link
"Out Of Control"
http://i.imgur.com/MmliVkD.jpg
http://youtu.be/g23Qj9iUgOA
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
This is rubbish. What are they thinking, putting this average bar band boogie third up on their big concept album?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 September 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
reminds me a little of Slade.
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey takes another dump midway through the 1st side of an Eagles record.
― col, Monday, 2 September 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
song plays over montage of Tom Cruise taking shots and impressing girl in 1987 Jerry Bruckheimer flick.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link
Actually there's banjo stuff as long as Leadon was in the band.
He did some pretty mean pickin' on one song on the BBC In Concert programme - I confess i have no idea what the song was, but it was one of these:
*Train Leaves Here This MorningSaturday Night*Peaceful Easy FeelingCertain Kind Of FoolEarly BirdOut Of Control*Witchy Woman*Take It Easy
*not these, I know those songs
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 2 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Henley's drumming is surprisingly lively. But this is basically a 2nd-rate "Fool for the City" or "Rock & Roll Band" (the Boston song).
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 September 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
Sounds like a tape of my college-era band rehearsing - we could never all agree when to end the song and everyone wanted to get in the last lick.
― Lee626, Monday, 2 September 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
I was kinda liking this album until this song....
― Lee626, Monday, 2 September 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
― col, Monday, September 2, 2013 9:37 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
beautifully put.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 2 September 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
the first two songs on this record might actually get you thinking that there's a whole record of reasonably enjoyable music ahead of you, and then this song is like no way man you're still just listening to the eagles.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 2 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
chug or go home!
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
down here we all chug
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 September 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4436/4y9.png
― pplains, Monday, 2 September 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
Xpost lol
You'll chug too
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
Scott otm. "Out Ov Controll" anyone? It stands to reason the Eagles would soak up some Glam influence recording in London in '72-3. Of course Slade Did This Stuff Better.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 September 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
Don't hate this. At worst, I'm as indifferent to it as I've been to all of the non-singles we've covered so far 'cept "Doolin Dalton" (which I like!) and "Take the Devil" (which sucks).
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 2 September 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/desperadobackbig.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 September 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
with a better voice and a better hook, "out of control" could be a mid-'70s wings album cut.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 2 September 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
but not better playing
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 September 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
Youch.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
Spotify: "You listened to the Eagles this week. Want to try Dr. Hook?"
― Brad C., Monday, 2 September 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
I got that recommendation yesterday too, though with no mention of the Eagles
Next: daily track-by-track Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show oeuvre walkthrough and discussion
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Monday, 2 September 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
i bought this record for 3 bucks yesterday and pretty much everything on it is better than everything we have listened to so far. and the don nix production seriously gives glyn a run for his money. sounds amazing.
https://sphotos-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/564994_10152483722702137_1028524033_n.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
also got a pristine u.k. pressing of journeys from gospel oak by ian matthews for 3 bucks (so sad that his records sell for nothing these days) and god that album is beautiful and what a sound! also mostly better than what we've heard. everyone should hear that album. and its even more applicable to eagles. same time period. gene clark song. etc.
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
there's a Fairport & related ballot poll coming up! Matthews alone has made about 30 albums
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
yeah, you don't need all 30. the first 10 will do.
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
actually you only need nine of them. the 3 southern comfort albums, the plainsong album, and the solo albums up to and including Some Days You Eat The Bear. some days you eat the bear has tom waits, gene clark, and steely dan covers.
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
I've had all of those on my emusic save list for like 6 years now. When will I finally buy them arrrgh.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
xp I only have one of each. I like Fairport's cover of "Tried So Hard" better than Gene's though so must check out Eat The Bear
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Monday, 2 September 2013 21:30 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyx8koGcaUE
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
valley hi album has a kinda eagles-centric track-listing:
Keep On Sailing" (Ian Matthews) - 4:42"Old Man at the Mill" (Traditional) - 2:30"Shady Lies" (Richard Thompson) - 3:54"These Days" (Jackson Browne) - 4:23"Leaving Alone" (Ian Matthews) - 3:34"Seven Bridges Road" (Steve Young) - 4:05"Save Your Sorrows" (Ian Matthews) - 2:22"What Are You Waiting For" (Randy Newman) - 4:18"Propinquity" (Michael Nesmith) - 2:51"Blue Blue Day" (Don Gibson) - 3:15
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
and i didn't even know that the eagles covered seven bridges road until 2 second ago! ha, so even more eagles-centric than i thought.
― scott seward, Monday, 2 September 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
I think the Eagles picked 7BR up from Matthews.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
Wow this song is a turd
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
my local classic rock station plays the Eagles 7BR all the time, def one of my fav tracks by them.
― to smang a topanga (some dude), Monday, 2 September 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
Am I the first person to ever use the phrase "a poor man's Chug All Night"?
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 2 September 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
yes, it is almost certain that you are
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
I think Don Henley dropped that zing a time or two.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
"Tequila Sunrise"
http://www.rocknycliveandrecorded.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/tequilasunrise.jpg
http://youtu.be/ws-YqUcD0LY
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
short and sweet. i really do miss songs that are under 3 minutes long.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
Just caught up with a ~rockin 4fer~. I'm down with everything on this lp so far except for the abominable OOC. TS is just lovely and it's a good thing it comes right after OOC to salve some of the Frey hate brought on by the latter.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
This is lovely, the steel guitar and harmonies are the standout sounds for me, with the sigh in the coda the best thing of all. All guitars sound exquisite as usual. I don't like the percussion so much though; the hi-hat is as silly and overload as anything I'd play myself, and whatever the most prominent drum noise is (woodblock?), I could live without that.
It slips over like warm honey though, not really my thing. I daresay it's a wonderful oasis in context though, going by Out Of Control anyway, but it doesn't move me.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
in my mind "Tequila Sunrise" is far more oppressive than the song actually is. Well-played (Leadon as usual is tops, but Henley's also really solid here), mercifully concise, with probably Frey's most humane vocal. It's enough to forgive a quasi-cowboy song inspired by a popular LA drink and all of the myriad dreadful bar-band covers of it (& Eagles performances) in the four decades since its release.
― col, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
Chug is absolutely > OOC. At least if you stripped out the vocal on chug you'd have a decent track.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
i dig tequila sunrise
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
http://85.img.v4.skyrock.net/9909/76299909/pics/3135637578_1_6_dlmrWE6C.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
^^ love this movie
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
movie and song are p good imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
This song still puts me to sleep.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
Tequila Sunrise makes me think of that thing Travolta said on Inside The Actors Studio, about researching heroin when he played Vincent Vega; ie an addict told him to recreate the feeling of a heroin high without shooting heroin drink a bottle of tequila and go lie down in a hot bath.
this song sounds like a bottle of tequila in a hot bath
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
Hmm, I'm thinking the bathwater is lukewarm, bit of a soapfilm on the surface.
I mean, it's not exactly "Deep Blue Day".
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
So... nauseating? xp I like this song fine. It evokes a sad wistfulness that may come from the song or may come from how I felt once long ago when I heard the song, but it's pretty, especially the steel guitar.
I think this is the Eagles album that really captured my stepfather's devotion since he is a sucker for US Wild West mythology, so it's nice to listen to the tracks from that perspective.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
Nice 12-string on the bridge. Lyric about a lonely guy drinking said spirit, hanging at a bar at night whilst working a dull day job, having a woman hit on him, still getting nowhere, watching the sun come up, bringing another day just like the last one.
Kinda like this one more than I realized.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Surprisingly good Frey vocal. I like this track ... it's soporific but that fits the lyrical content.
By this point in the album, any hope of continuity for the Doolin-Dalton storyline is already gone (I envision my 12-year-old self getting bored, reading a comic book).
I watched most of that Eagles doc last night. The first half hour has some hilarious Spinal Tap moments, including Frey's attempt to explain the Old West armed robbery = playing in a soft rock band concept. No one comes across as pleasant or interesting, except maybe Leadon. I should have bailed on it earlier than I did.
Woke up with horrible Eagles earworms, why am I doing this to myself?
― Brad C., Tuesday, 3 September 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link
tequila sunrise is way better than i remembered
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:13 (ten years ago) link
kind of a weird one, structurally. it's basically six verses (including the instrumental break, which is played over a single verse) interrupted by two unrelated bridges.
lyrically, i'm thrown by the pronoun switch from "he" to "i."
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
that second bridge ("take another shot of courage") is a dead ringer for neil young: the changes, melody, the vocal, everything.
"Tequila Sunrise" is probably on the better side of their ubiquitous radio songs. Has a nice morning-after feel, reinforced in context appearing after "OoC", which ironically promised a rougher ride on the 'morrow. The Latin guitar in break forecasts the feel of "New Kid In Town" (which I prefer to this one). Perhaps best of all--as already pointed out by Scott--is the length. Even though there was nothing clocking in over 5 minutes on the first album, alot of the songs wore out their welcome with another minute or so to go. Figuring in the later epics the Eagles later uncorked, something with this much brevity is refreshing indeed.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
frey, in general, seems like the weak link in the chain but would there have been an eagles without him? he just seems like such an unlikely rock star. like in an alternate universe he runs a shabby nightclub and does too much coke and hits on the waitresses every day until they quit. and he loses all his money and has to close his club and gets work from the local mob running numbers and he lives and dies alone. massive coronary. on the toilet. scratch tickets and beer cans littering the bathroom floor. seems so much more likely than the rock & roll hall of fame. inducted by jimmy buffett at that. wait, how is jimmy buffett a multi-millionaire again? okay, i better stop...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
but i think frey's voice works really really well on this particular song. and the way the full-band harmonies rise up and wrap around his lead, almost as if to protect it, is kind of perfect.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
he does sound good on this! and i think he was a leader in the band. obviously. he was one of the last men standing. so, he definitely had a big role in the direction the band went in. they obviously didn't immerse themselves in extended banjo breakdowns. and as i noted long long ago on this thread, the frey and henley bands pre-eagles sounded amazingly like the eagles. as early as 1969. dudes had a vision. just such unlikely visionaries for some reason.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
Frey also has some kind of will-to-power ambition streak going... Weakest musician and singer and obnoxious to be around, but critical in the day-to-day hustle of the 70s music biz.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
definitely
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
did they have a scary manager or strongman? how do you do that much coke and also be aware of the day to day music biz hustle? i guess i gotta give these guys credit for stamina.
i will watch that doc when i get a chance. maybe it'll show up on netflix.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
i always figured the really smart people were the ones who didn't do tons of drugs. and made good money.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
although i guess they were so huge maybe it didn't really matter what they did. worked for fleetwood mac.
sad to read that linda ronstadt had to write that memoir because she needs the money. she made all her money touring. since her biggest hits weren't her songs.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
their manager was Azoff, between him and Frey it's like Godzilla + Mechagodzilla. And then add some sporadic Geffen into the mix and you know for a fact that no-one will ever find out where the bodies are buried
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
(xp) they had an extremely scary manager/strongman!
and, it appears, "obnoxious to be around" was a crucial skill for surviving in this band. their manager/strongman had a bit of a surplus in that area.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
Agree that Frey, despite being a mediocre player, singer and a generally dreadful personality, was essential to the band: the nasty, greasy central cog in the works.
― col, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
"Frey just seems like such an unlikely rock star. like in an alternate universe he runs a shabby nightclub and does too much coke and hits on the waitresses every day until they quit. and he loses all his money and has to close his club and gets work from the local mob running numbers and he lives and dies alone. massive coronary. on the toilet. scratch tickets and beer cans littering the bathroom floor"
nine times out of ten, this is Frey's fate. We exist in the strange alternate timeline where he actually became a rock star.
― col, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
Cameron Crowe's profile on Azoff for Rolling Stone in 1978 is essential reading
A day with Irving Azoff begins and ends on The Phone. Sitting in the platinum-record-lined Los Angeles offices at Front Line management in the morning, an inconspicuous listener can watch Rock’s most influential megamanager do verbal gymnastics that rival any of his acts.In the time of anybody else’s coffee break, he has a) informed Boz Scaggs his tax-shelter oil wells struck black gold, b) bought a new house for Dan Fogelberg, c) booked part of an Eagles summer tour and d) assured three major record-company presidents they had the inside track on Steely Dan.“Sure I lie,” yelps the curly headed, five-foot-three Azoff as if it’s also so much mischief. “But it’s more like . . . tinting. I’ve inherited a lot of dummies’ deals. When that happens, you gotta make it right. It’s all just negotiating theatrics.”They call him Big Shorty, the man who rules the careers of the Eagles, Dan Fogelberg, Steely Dan, Jimmy Buffett, JD Souther and Boz Scaggs. Just thirty, he is the enfant terrible of the music business. To get his clients top dollar, he’ll rip up a contract, yell, scream, terrorize, stomp, pound and destroy inanimate objects . . . gleefully. He is the American Dream taken by the balls. Many of his clients will spend their off-hours watching him “kill” on the phone.After Azoff has moved around some $20 million of record and concert business, he throws a tweed jacket over his tennis shirt and cruises to MCA/Universal Studios in a borrowed BMW (he owns a Bentley) to show the high-ranking studio intelligentsia twenty minutes of his first executive-produced film venture, FM.Visiting the Universal office of his friend, Vice President Verna Fields, Azoff first scans a stray release schedule and, while she is on the phone, cradles the Oscar she won for editing Jaws. “Look at this,” he says with the same wonder with which someone else might finger a gold or platinum album (of which Azoff has some seventy-five from twenty different countries). “Feel how heavy it is.” The Oscar slips from his hands and clangs against a glass display case. “Let’s get out of here,” he whispers.The FM clip he has brought for Universal’s three-piece-suit contingent is an impressive teaser. It blasts through some clever ad-libbing from costar Martin Mull, a romantic encounter in the Q-Sky Studios and some lively Linda Ronstadt and Jimmy Buffett concert sequences. When the lights in the screening room come up, these execs can taste the youth culture revenue.“Were sitting on a powder keg, Irving,” booms one vice-president.“Monster, monster, monster,” another clucks. A mischievous gleam begins to take over Azoff’s cherubic face as he listens to the kudos. A moment later, he jumps to his feet. “Well,” he announces, “I’m writing you a check for $5 million and I’m taking the film with me. I can sell it to any other studio in town for ten.”There is a ghastly silence as what’s-goin-on-here looks fills the room.“That’s right,” Azoff continues, a little louder. “I just looked at your summer release schedule – you know, the one I’m not supposed to see. I see Stigwood, I see Spielberg . . . where am I? Nowhere. Not heavy enough for Universal, that’s where. I want a May released on this film, and it looks like I’m going somewhere else to get it.”Within an hour the impossible has, naturally, been achieved, and Irving is back at his Front Line offices across town with his May release. But the first flush of cinematic successes has left him distracted and uncharacteristically silent. “I don’t know about that movie,” blurts Azoff. “Something’s wrong. I tell the studio it’s not authentic, they say, ‘Hey, this is movieland, nothing’s authentic.’ “I’m handcuffed.” Azoff begins to get that look about him again. He jumps up.“Know what?” He starts yelling to himself now. “I’m 30 years old. I don’t need this shit. I’m gonna get married!”What wedding present do you get for the guy who’s already taken everything he wanted?” Glenn Frey, guitarist/composer and mainstay of the Eagles, Azoff’s biggest clients, sits in his Coldwater Canyon home several days later and contemplates his managers two newest-by-now-official surprises. Not only has Irving set the marriage date with Rochelle Cumsky, his girlfriend of two years, but he has ordered his name taken off FM. He will still keep his percentage. “You know,” says Frey, “the man bears striking similarities to a Jewish Dennis the Menace.”“He’s Napoleon with a heart,” says Eagle singer/writer/drummer Don Henley, perhaps Azoff’s closest friend. “But I’m always awed because he’s screaming at some guy twice his size and never gets his face crushed for it. I think it helps that people are shocked at this short, deceptively cute-looking guy who goes to the top floor of a building and just explodes on some guy for his incompetence.”Along the way Azoff has ushered the rock music business past its last Sixties vestiges of brotherly naiveté. His philosophy, he agrees, is to get as much as possible, “but with the right creative decision. We don’t rip anybody off . . . it’s just comes down to hard, cold business. I was very fortunate, as were my clients, that the time we all hit, the business quadrupled. A gold album don’t mean shit now. If you handle an Eagles, their road crew and families, you become responsible for fifty-five people and you’re running a $15-million business. You gotta know how to handle the money. You don’t handle it right and the government’ll come take it all away from you.”Azoff was a plump seventeen-year-old in Danville, Illinois, headed for a career in medicine when he discovered big-time rock & roll. After watching the Yardbirds play in Indiana Beach, Indiana, there was, he says, no looking back. He had already begun by hustling gigs for the hottest band in his high school, the Shades of Blue, and even offered his garage as their rehearsal room. By sixteen, he was jousting with local unions over other bands. “What can I do?” he asks. “I couldn’t play an instrument.”After high school, a club owner/friend named Peter Pelafos, who ran a small chain of college nightclubs around the Midwest, let Irving try booking his acts. That was all Azoff needed. He was soon, to the amazement of the nearby Chicago club owners, running the affairs of eighty-six artists (like the Buckinghams and the Cyan’ Shaymes) and promoting them across five states. Suddenly, a group could make or break them whether Azoff put them on his circuit.“I used to sit and read my ROLLING STONE about David Geffen and Bill Graham, and to me, they were gods.”It was at Azoff’s hottest spot, the Majestic Hills, a former boat warehouse in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, that Azoff first met James Gang guitarist Joe Walsh, who was later to join the Eagles. The 5000-seat Majestic Hills was unique for two reasons: there was a tree growing from the center of the stage, and Lake Geneva was just twenty minutes outside Chicago. Recalls Irving: “I told Walsh, ‘You know Pete Townshend was here and jumped off that tree. The guy was fuckin’ crazy.’ Middle of the set that night, Walsh got up in the tree, jumped off, fell down and nearly broke his fuckin’ leg. He comes limping over to me afterward and says, ‘Anything Pete Townshend can do, I can do.’ It was wonderful.” They did not forget each other.We are now at Azoff’s guesthouse, an appendage of the notoriously-spacious canyon home in which he lives. He is off one of his six phone lines three minutes before his fingers start to absent-mindedly punch numbers as he speaks. When his private line buzzes a moment later, he cannot resist snapping it up.He talks in little bursts, his voice, as always, sounding like that of a puberty-ravaged Henry Aldrich: “Yeah . . . well choke ‘em . . . no way . . . there’s no record company in the world that takes five weeks to release a soundtrack . . . I’ll call some of those nonbrains . . . ” Azoff slams down the phone and addresses the tape recorder. “Excuse me,” he says politely, “but every time I think of FM, I gotta piss.”The sleepy community around affluent Lake Geneva, it seems, didn’t appreciate Azoff’s intrusion with big-time rock & roll, and one night, with REO Speedwagon headlining, 400 cops, national guardsmen and state troopers burst into the Majestic Hills with gas masks and rifles. They searched people, arresting thirty-five.The next morning young Azoff found himself in front of the district attorney and sheriff. They offered Azoff a deal: don’t reopen the club next weekend and we won’t arrest you. “I said, ‘Absolutely, man, we’re closed.’ “I got across the Wisconsin state line, picked up the telephone, called WLS and had them put on the news that we would be open next weekend, as usual . . . with Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull and Mountain on three consecutive nights.And?Irving chirps his answer: “They enjoined me and I moved to California.”Azoff moved his one-man agent/manager business to Los Angeles, sharing an apartment with “the one artist, out of all those acts, that I really believed in,” Dan Fogelberg, a young singer/songwriter from Champagne, Illinois. While Azoff worked for the Heller-Fischel Agency, making his name around town, Fogelberg went to work preparing the album that they hoped would “make us both rich and famous.” (It didn’t, but Fogelberg’s second LP went gold.)The saga is interrupted by the momentous arrival of Front Line press officer and “vice-president-in-charge-of-whatever-Irving-tells-me-to-do, ” Larry Solters. Solters has brought the first pressing of the finished FM soundtrack album cover. It is soon obvious that Azoff, even without the credit/blame of his name appearing on the film or album, has retained a certain vested interest. “I will promote this record,” he says, “because it is a great record. What I’ve done is make my first album in the movie business.” Cursing the individuals involved in editing of the movie which, to quote Martin Mull, “looks like it was cut with a blowtorch,” Azoff scans the package carefully. He immediately spots errors. “They spelled Fagen’s name F-A-G-A-N.”The fingers that have been playing about the phone again have already punched out the number to MCA/Universal. One of the album’s coordinators at MCA and a friend of Azoff’s, is away from his office, so Irving begins to address the heavens.“Who approved this stuff? This is not what I approved. MCA’s got big problems. Donald F-A-G-E-N is the only one left who hasn’t signed the release yet.” He shouts to Solters, who is already on another line: “We may have a lawsuit here. Call Pam at the office and tell her . . . ”“Pam quit, Irving,” says Solters.“No notice? What?”“She gave notice,” Solters explains. “I tried to hold on to her, offered her money and everything. She wanted to get out of the business. What could I say? Good move?”“So who’s left in the office . . . just Nina?” Azoff instantly tracks down his office manager at another appointment. “I’m trying not to explode,” he informs the individual. “I’ve got Solters up here discussing the 47,000 fuck-ups with FM . . . Pam quit, you didn’t tell me she’s leaving . . . ”The office manager says what must be the wrong thing. Irving suddenly throws up his hands and takes his voice to another dimension of hysteria. It is truly amazing to hear him scream: “I DON’T KNOW . . . I DON’T KNOW . . . BUT I SHOULDN’T HAVE TO FUCKING WORRY ABOUT IT . . . SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU WANT ME TO HIRE AND FIRE PEOPLE . . . I’LL HIRE AND FIRE PEOPLE. SPRING FUCKING HOUSECLEANING! NOBODY’S SAFE. IT’S GONNA BE JUST ME IN THE GUESTHOUSE WITH TWO SECRETARIES!! JUST THOUGHT I’D LET YOU KNOW.”He jackhammers the receiver and, purged of his demons, begins to do a little jig.“Going strong today, Irving,” Solter observes impassively. “Just one question. Am I gonna be one of the secretaries left?”“Yeah,” says Irving.“Good,” says Solters. “Because the man at MCA is on the phone and I think he just slashed his wrists.”“I was totally down and out, living in Colorado. Lost. Couldn’t get any gigs . . . made a solo album, and the IRS was auditing me three years running. My manager didn’t even care,” says Joe Walsh. After the James Gang and hits like “Walk Away” “Funk No. 49,” the guitarist had his nadir playing the Whiskey A Go Go in Hollywood for virtually no money.“Out of nowhere, Irving came up, saying he believed in me. He was a booking agent and wanted to at least keep me working until I could straighten my career out. He never asked me to manage him. I was overwhelmed. He was the only guy I’d talked to who had answers. I just gave him everything, completely trusted him and said, ‘Help.’”Azoff put Walsh together with the lawyer, Lee Phillips, and the two set out to untangle the numerous entanglements of Walsh’s plummeting career. Walsh eventually asked Azoff to manage him. “He said, ‘Shit, I’m flattered. That means I don’t have to be an agent anymore.’ We made a pact they’d never take us alive.”Azoff did not have the collateral to open his own management office. At suggestion of Phillips, also David Geffen’s lawyer, Azoff went to work out of Geffen’s and Elliott Roberts’ GR Management company, bringing with him Fogelberg and Walsh.“I had been petrified of working with David,” claims Azoff. But Geffen, who was also president of Asylum Records at the time, had just merged with Elektra records and was heading for a new office. “It ended up just me and Elliott running the office,” says Azoff. “I was a nervous wreck. We had everybody: Crosby-Nash, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, America, the Eagles, J.D. Souther . . . David had signed Dylan, so we were working on a Band tour as a favor too. Elliot and I were going fucking crazy . . . It was way understaffed.”Azoff was eventually dispatched to Kansas City to chaperone the Eagles along some of their ’73 Desperado tour. He found a band that was suspicious, broke and aimlessly zigzagging across the country to half-filled houses. Frey and Henley had already held secret meetings with an assistant at GR Management who had confirmed their suspicions of being “badly neglected.”“The first night we met Irving,” remembers Frey, “Henley and I and him got in a room together. There was something about it. We started telling Irving our problems with the band, our producer, how we wanted our records not to be so clean and glassy and how we were getting the royal fuckin’ screw job.“He told us he had come in with Walsh and Fogelberg and didn’t know himself. It was perfect from the start. Here was a guy our own age, going through exactly the same thing, catching his rising star the same time we were. We decided that night that Irving would manage us.”The Eagles began to make public their unhappiness with the Geffen-Asylum connection as Geffen and Roberts were deciding to pare the roster down to a more manageable Neil Young and Joni Mitchell. “Geffen told the Eagles they could leave,” claims Azoff, “but I don’t think they anticipated I would take ‘em. They were pissed.”“When were we convinced we’d made the right move? Pretty quick, admits Don Henley, six platinum albums later. “Might have been the Bahamas Incident.”“The Bahamas Incident,” Glenn Frey agrees. There is a reverential silence as Frey silently goes over to the stereo system in the rented L.A. home where he and Henley – “my managers” as Irving calls them – are writing the songs for the next Eagles album. Frey puts on Ralph MacDonald’s eighteen-minute drum epic, “The Path,” and begins to tell the story.“We have been with Irving six months,” Frey starts. “The Eagles were in the middle of a [1974] tour. We had two days off and didn’t want to stay in New York. We were into big gambling thing – cards all the time – so we decided to go to the Bahamas and gamble for our two days off. Henley, myself, Irving, a pilot and a girlfriend with Don take off for the Bahamas.”Henley: “We go through this whole thing about not taking anything over. ‘Okay, now, everybody’s got to go in clean . . . . ‘ Everybody goes, ‘Yeah . . . We know . . . I’m not taking anything over, no.’ ‘Me neither.’”“Turns out,” continues Frey, “everybody except Don and his girlfriend had some kind of dope on him. Irving, on the plane over, took twenty Valiums and put them into a sugar package and stuffed them in his shoe. I put half an ounce of marijuana and my boot. We proceeded to go off to the Bahamas, you know, figuring everything would be okay and there was no way we were gonna get caught for that little bit.“Well . . . the first person to present her bags [at customs] was Don’s girlfriend. They started looking through her purse and found a pack of cigarette papers. The head customs man, a big guy, starts asking questions. This guy is out to bust us.“Before we knew it, all six of us were being taken off to be searched.” Somehow, everyone else managed to dump their stuff, leaving me and Henley and Irving,” says Frey. “The two young assistants who are searching everybody physically in the next room say, ‘Who’s next?’ Irving says, ‘I am.’ We look at each other, knowing we can’t reach in our boots. He’s ready to go to jail, right now. Irving goes into the search room and . . . I know he’s getting busted. I’m just waiting for the whole sorry thing to happen . . . waiting for me to be called.“Irving comes out of the search room five minutes later gives me a wink. Then he walks out scot-free. Now I don’t know what the fuck is happening. Next thing the two assistants are walking toward the door, saying ‘Well, that’s it, chief.’ They search Don, skip me and let us all go.Frey smiles proudly. “Here is what happened. Irving, when he got into the search room, reached right into his boot, pulled out the Valiums and said, ‘This is what you’re looking for from me . . . I don’t have any prescription bottle with me, but my father is a pharmacist.’ Then he pulls out a fistful of twenties, our gambling money [$5000].“They wouldn’t take his money. So Irving, on a moral level, did the great sales pitch of all time. He said, ‘Now you guys look like young guys. There’s a kid out there with a blue shirt on who has gold records all over his wall; he’s a rock star. He’s just got a couple of joints with him. If you bust him here, he can’t play in the U.K., Australia, Japan. He brings such enjoyment to people and you’re gonna end his career.”“One assistant says, ‘If we find the dope on him, we gotta show it to the chief.’“The other says, ‘No, we don’t', takes the Valium and gives them back to Irving,. ‘We’ll try to skip him,’ he says.“That was a real-life panic situation. That required more fortitude than doing a concert deal with Bill Graham or something. He definitely had to dig down deep for that one. He saved our ass from winding up with an international drug charge.”“Hell,” concludes Don Henley, “somebody’s gotta fly this thing.”Front Line management was in the black from the start. Joe Walsh released The Smoker You Drink, The Player You Get and, as “Rocky Mountain Way” took off, he became a bigger attraction than the James Gang at their peak. Fogelberg released the gold LP Souvenirs, Walsh’s first production. And Azoff introduced the Eagles to a new producer, Bills Szymczyk, and their pivotal On The Border album (featuring “The Best of My Love” ) was finished. “We were,” says Big Shorty, “off to giant start.”When David Geffen left the Elektra/Asylum post for Warner Brothers films, Azoff was the new empire-builder in town. He hired in-house everything on a fee basis, voraciously eliminating the needless percentages of business management (five percent), a booking agent (ten percent), publicity and more. He renegotiated his contracts every year. His acts toured sparingly, but for maximum profit. The Eagles, Walsh and Fogelberg – like Front Line – began to operate like a well oiled machine. “When you start splitting everything up six or more ways,” says Frey, “you start looking for the extra dollar. And searching for the extra dollar, we’ve found fortunes. Of course, we want to make more money and know where it goes. Why be naive about it? Why die like Stephen Foster, in the Bowery, slitting his wrists, penniless after writing all those wonderful standards.”For some time Azoff kept his energies just to the Eagles, Fogelberg and Walsh. Then Boz Scaggs, needing a manager, came in for an appointment. Scaggs had heard of Irving and, after managing himself for a few years (“a lot remained undone”), Columbia records, his label, set up a meeting just before releasing Silk Degrees. “He had grown up and developed entirely within this huge industry,” Scaggs says. “It’s awesome at first how much information he carries. I’m convinced he’s gonna be the guy who gets everybody from the Sixties to the Eighties.”“Boz has since become a very close friend as well as my client,” Azoff says. “I come under criticism, you know, from the ‘rock manager elite.’ How can your clients also be your social peers? That’s the way it happened. It’s like . . . it’s almost like a rock & roll fraternity.”And, some might argue, Azoff is just panty-raiding his way through the music business. “The ultimate decision I came to was that the whole key to real power in the management business is not to pat yourself on the back and say, ‘I did it.’ I have tried to break a new act every year . . . ”With the latest additions to Azoff’s operation, Jimmy Buffett and Steely Dan, he has done just that. Both have turned the corner on platinum status since signing with him.“Why sign with him?” asks Donald Fagen. “He needed a new hobby, why not?”In fact, Steely Dan and Buffet both had career entanglements. And legal entanglements – contracts – are Azoff’s forte. (He has even taught artists like Bob Seger and Glenda Griffith to “play ball” free of charge.) What enables a man to rip up a contract? “Our wonderful court system takes three or four years to try anything. So while you’re trying to dispute, an act dies and a record company loses multi-multiprofits. So they’ve forced to arbitrate, and it comes down to the old music business tactic of the guy that yells loudest is right. It’s not my fault I have to yell loudest.”Back in his Front Line office and working late, Azoff is asked about his detractors, of which there are more than a few (in fact, his office wall was once lined with hate mail). The people that don’t yell loudest. The ones that refuse to be quoted for this article. The ones that swear they’ll get him on his way down.“What way down?” Irving asks innocently. His fingers begin to play with the phone again, but the intercom that only a few hours ago buzzed with calls from Richard Dreyfuss, Kenny Stabler, Donald Fagen, Dan Fogelberg, Alan Cranston, Jerry Brown’s office and all the clients who want to hear the victories of the day . . . is silent. For once, it will not take two hours for him to finish a thought . . . .“People that aren’t close to me would think I kill for sport . . . you gotta kill sometimes.” He becomes impassioned. “When you get the $40,000-a-year promotion man at the record label who leaves at 11:30 for lunch and comes back at three – and doesn’t work Fridays – you know, it’s a salaried gig to those guys. Here you go, you take your record, your artist’s career and your whole family’s future – you put it in the hands of a man who isn’t gonna make one more dollar if the record’s a hit and what you’re doing is crossing an artistic process with a guy that might as well be selling fucking typewriters. I’m not gonna let some fuckhead stand in the way of that record being a success. If the guy ain’t doing his job, he’s gonna hear about it.”Last January, Azoff won an unprecedented settlement to retrieve the Eagles publishing back from Warner Communications, the enormous conglomerate that owns Warner/Elektra/Asylum records. With typical zeal, he sued them for $10 million (“my scariest adventure in the business”) and hung on, bit and scratched, as one executive put it, and Warner Communications gave up after two years. “They legally owned our songs,” admits Frey, “but it just wasn’t fair. Nobody has that right. Those songs are our birthright and part of our children’s heritage. Besides . . . it also means I don’t have to hear ‘Take It to the Limit’ as a tire commercial. I thank Irving Azoff every night for that.”Azoff’s harsh baptism in the movie business does not mean that he will not attempt another entry in the near future. “He takes a lot of meetings of film people,” says Henley, “and he doesn’t forget anything. He’s amazing. He does everything from having my drive-way evaluated to seeing if my property doesn’t extend further to calling program directors direct. He does it all himself . . . and still has time to play tennis.“We owe him a lot. And when we go out on the town there’s always that look in his eye: ‘This is me and . . . these are my boys.’”Irving Azoff has that same glow as he walks down the aisle of Stephen S. Wise Temple to his marriage. The Eagles, J.D. Souther, Boz Scaggs and a templeful of Azoff’s closest friends and clients look on warmly. Dan Fogelberg, the original Front Line roster, sits at the organ and plays, instrumentally, his own “To the Morning” and later, Frey’s and Henley’s “Desperado.” The rabbi reminds a demure Irving, the same man who ripped apart two hotel rooms in Florida once just to see what was behind the walls, that he now has a “responsibility to world peace and elimination of destruction.” Irving nods respectfully, a rare sight.“Look,” he would later confide at the wedding reception in his backyard, perhaps trying on humility for size, “maybe you should just strike all that stuff about me yelling . . . And Universal . . . and everything. Here’s the story: I’m thirty, I come from a tightknit Jewish family. I’m crazy. I’ve got all the power and money I could have wanted. I just don’t think you can balance your nervous system at age thirty without a personal life. I don’t have to yell a lot anymore. I haven’t destroyed a hotel room in years. I’ve met the right person and I’m settling down.”And on that note, Irving Azoff tenderly smashes his mother-in-law in the face with a piece of the wedding cake.Courtesy of Rolling Stone #267 – Cameron Crowe – June 15, 1978
In the time of anybody else’s coffee break, he has a) informed Boz Scaggs his tax-shelter oil wells struck black gold, b) bought a new house for Dan Fogelberg, c) booked part of an Eagles summer tour and d) assured three major record-company presidents they had the inside track on Steely Dan.
“Sure I lie,” yelps the curly headed, five-foot-three Azoff as if it’s also so much mischief. “But it’s more like . . . tinting. I’ve inherited a lot of dummies’ deals. When that happens, you gotta make it right. It’s all just negotiating theatrics.”
They call him Big Shorty, the man who rules the careers of the Eagles, Dan Fogelberg, Steely Dan, Jimmy Buffett, JD Souther and Boz Scaggs. Just thirty, he is the enfant terrible of the music business. To get his clients top dollar, he’ll rip up a contract, yell, scream, terrorize, stomp, pound and destroy inanimate objects . . . gleefully. He is the American Dream taken by the balls. Many of his clients will spend their off-hours watching him “kill” on the phone.
After Azoff has moved around some $20 million of record and concert business, he throws a tweed jacket over his tennis shirt and cruises to MCA/Universal Studios in a borrowed BMW (he owns a Bentley) to show the high-ranking studio intelligentsia twenty minutes of his first executive-produced film venture, FM.
Visiting the Universal office of his friend, Vice President Verna Fields, Azoff first scans a stray release schedule and, while she is on the phone, cradles the Oscar she won for editing Jaws. “Look at this,” he says with the same wonder with which someone else might finger a gold or platinum album (of which Azoff has some seventy-five from twenty different countries). “Feel how heavy it is.” The Oscar slips from his hands and clangs against a glass display case. “Let’s get out of here,” he whispers.
The FM clip he has brought for Universal’s three-piece-suit contingent is an impressive teaser. It blasts through some clever ad-libbing from costar Martin Mull, a romantic encounter in the Q-Sky Studios and some lively Linda Ronstadt and Jimmy Buffett concert sequences. When the lights in the screening room come up, these execs can taste the youth culture revenue.
“Were sitting on a powder keg, Irving,” booms one vice-president.
“Monster, monster, monster,” another clucks. A mischievous gleam begins to take over Azoff’s cherubic face as he listens to the kudos. A moment later, he jumps to his feet. “Well,” he announces, “I’m writing you a check for $5 million and I’m taking the film with me. I can sell it to any other studio in town for ten.”
There is a ghastly silence as what’s-goin-on-here looks fills the room.
“That’s right,” Azoff continues, a little louder. “I just looked at your summer release schedule – you know, the one I’m not supposed to see. I see Stigwood, I see Spielberg . . . where am I? Nowhere. Not heavy enough for Universal, that’s where. I want a May released on this film, and it looks like I’m going somewhere else to get it.”
Within an hour the impossible has, naturally, been achieved, and Irving is back at his Front Line offices across town with his May release. But the first flush of cinematic successes has left him distracted and uncharacteristically silent. “I don’t know about that movie,” blurts Azoff. “Something’s wrong. I tell the studio it’s not authentic, they say, ‘Hey, this is movieland, nothing’s authentic.’ “I’m handcuffed.” Azoff begins to get that look about him again. He jumps up.
“Know what?” He starts yelling to himself now. “I’m 30 years old. I don’t need this shit. I’m gonna get married!”
What wedding present do you get for the guy who’s already taken everything he wanted?” Glenn Frey, guitarist/composer and mainstay of the Eagles, Azoff’s biggest clients, sits in his Coldwater Canyon home several days later and contemplates his managers two newest-by-now-official surprises. Not only has Irving set the marriage date with Rochelle Cumsky, his girlfriend of two years, but he has ordered his name taken off FM. He will still keep his percentage. “You know,” says Frey, “the man bears striking similarities to a Jewish Dennis the Menace.”
“He’s Napoleon with a heart,” says Eagle singer/writer/drummer Don Henley, perhaps Azoff’s closest friend. “But I’m always awed because he’s screaming at some guy twice his size and never gets his face crushed for it. I think it helps that people are shocked at this short, deceptively cute-looking guy who goes to the top floor of a building and just explodes on some guy for his incompetence.”
Along the way Azoff has ushered the rock music business past its last Sixties vestiges of brotherly naiveté. His philosophy, he agrees, is to get as much as possible, “but with the right creative decision. We don’t rip anybody off . . . it’s just comes down to hard, cold business. I was very fortunate, as were my clients, that the time we all hit, the business quadrupled. A gold album don’t mean shit now. If you handle an Eagles, their road crew and families, you become responsible for fifty-five people and you’re running a $15-million business. You gotta know how to handle the money. You don’t handle it right and the government’ll come take it all away from you.”
Azoff was a plump seventeen-year-old in Danville, Illinois, headed for a career in medicine when he discovered big-time rock & roll. After watching the Yardbirds play in Indiana Beach, Indiana, there was, he says, no looking back. He had already begun by hustling gigs for the hottest band in his high school, the Shades of Blue, and even offered his garage as their rehearsal room. By sixteen, he was jousting with local unions over other bands. “What can I do?” he asks. “I couldn’t play an instrument.”
After high school, a club owner/friend named Peter Pelafos, who ran a small chain of college nightclubs around the Midwest, let Irving try booking his acts. That was all Azoff needed. He was soon, to the amazement of the nearby Chicago club owners, running the affairs of eighty-six artists (like the Buckinghams and the Cyan’ Shaymes) and promoting them across five states. Suddenly, a group could make or break them whether Azoff put them on his circuit.
“I used to sit and read my ROLLING STONE about David Geffen and Bill Graham, and to me, they were gods.”
It was at Azoff’s hottest spot, the Majestic Hills, a former boat warehouse in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, that Azoff first met James Gang guitarist Joe Walsh, who was later to join the Eagles. The 5000-seat Majestic Hills was unique for two reasons: there was a tree growing from the center of the stage, and Lake Geneva was just twenty minutes outside Chicago. Recalls Irving: “I told Walsh, ‘You know Pete Townshend was here and jumped off that tree. The guy was fuckin’ crazy.’ Middle of the set that night, Walsh got up in the tree, jumped off, fell down and nearly broke his fuckin’ leg. He comes limping over to me afterward and says, ‘Anything Pete Townshend can do, I can do.’ It was wonderful.” They did not forget each other.
We are now at Azoff’s guesthouse, an appendage of the notoriously-spacious canyon home in which he lives. He is off one of his six phone lines three minutes before his fingers start to absent-mindedly punch numbers as he speaks. When his private line buzzes a moment later, he cannot resist snapping it up.
He talks in little bursts, his voice, as always, sounding like that of a puberty-ravaged Henry Aldrich: “Yeah . . . well choke ‘em . . . no way . . . there’s no record company in the world that takes five weeks to release a soundtrack . . . I’ll call some of those nonbrains . . . ” Azoff slams down the phone and addresses the tape recorder. “Excuse me,” he says politely, “but every time I think of FM, I gotta piss.”
The sleepy community around affluent Lake Geneva, it seems, didn’t appreciate Azoff’s intrusion with big-time rock & roll, and one night, with REO Speedwagon headlining, 400 cops, national guardsmen and state troopers burst into the Majestic Hills with gas masks and rifles. They searched people, arresting thirty-five.
The next morning young Azoff found himself in front of the district attorney and sheriff. They offered Azoff a deal: don’t reopen the club next weekend and we won’t arrest you. “I said, ‘Absolutely, man, we’re closed.’ “I got across the Wisconsin state line, picked up the telephone, called WLS and had them put on the news that we would be open next weekend, as usual . . . with Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull and Mountain on three consecutive nights.
And?
Irving chirps his answer: “They enjoined me and I moved to California.”
Azoff moved his one-man agent/manager business to Los Angeles, sharing an apartment with “the one artist, out of all those acts, that I really believed in,” Dan Fogelberg, a young singer/songwriter from Champagne, Illinois. While Azoff worked for the Heller-Fischel Agency, making his name around town, Fogelberg went to work preparing the album that they hoped would “make us both rich and famous.” (It didn’t, but Fogelberg’s second LP went gold.)
The saga is interrupted by the momentous arrival of Front Line press officer and “vice-president-in-charge-of-whatever-Irving-tells-me-to-do, ” Larry Solters. Solters has brought the first pressing of the finished FM soundtrack album cover. It is soon obvious that Azoff, even without the credit/blame of his name appearing on the film or album, has retained a certain vested interest. “I will promote this record,” he says, “because it is a great record. What I’ve done is make my first album in the movie business.” Cursing the individuals involved in editing of the movie which, to quote Martin Mull, “looks like it was cut with a blowtorch,” Azoff scans the package carefully. He immediately spots errors. “They spelled Fagen’s name F-A-G-A-N.”
The fingers that have been playing about the phone again have already punched out the number to MCA/Universal. One of the album’s coordinators at MCA and a friend of Azoff’s, is away from his office, so Irving begins to address the heavens.
“Who approved this stuff? This is not what I approved. MCA’s got big problems. Donald F-A-G-E-N is the only one left who hasn’t signed the release yet.” He shouts to Solters, who is already on another line: “We may have a lawsuit here. Call Pam at the office and tell her . . . ”
“Pam quit, Irving,” says Solters.
“No notice? What?”
“She gave notice,” Solters explains. “I tried to hold on to her, offered her money and everything. She wanted to get out of the business. What could I say? Good move?”
“So who’s left in the office . . . just Nina?” Azoff instantly tracks down his office manager at another appointment. “I’m trying not to explode,” he informs the individual. “I’ve got Solters up here discussing the 47,000 fuck-ups with FM . . . Pam quit, you didn’t tell me she’s leaving . . . ”
The office manager says what must be the wrong thing. Irving suddenly throws up his hands and takes his voice to another dimension of hysteria. It is truly amazing to hear him scream: “I DON’T KNOW . . . I DON’T KNOW . . . BUT I SHOULDN’T HAVE TO FUCKING WORRY ABOUT IT . . . SO OBVIOUSLY IF YOU WANT ME TO HIRE AND FIRE PEOPLE . . . I’LL HIRE AND FIRE PEOPLE. SPRING FUCKING HOUSECLEANING! NOBODY’S SAFE. IT’S GONNA BE JUST ME IN THE GUESTHOUSE WITH TWO SECRETARIES!! JUST THOUGHT I’D LET YOU KNOW.”
He jackhammers the receiver and, purged of his demons, begins to do a little jig.
“Going strong today, Irving,” Solter observes impassively. “Just one question. Am I gonna be one of the secretaries left?”
“Yeah,” says Irving.
“Good,” says Solters. “Because the man at MCA is on the phone and I think he just slashed his wrists.”
“I was totally down and out, living in Colorado. Lost. Couldn’t get any gigs . . . made a solo album, and the IRS was auditing me three years running. My manager didn’t even care,” says Joe Walsh. After the James Gang and hits like “Walk Away” “Funk No. 49,” the guitarist had his nadir playing the Whiskey A Go Go in Hollywood for virtually no money.
“Out of nowhere, Irving came up, saying he believed in me. He was a booking agent and wanted to at least keep me working until I could straighten my career out. He never asked me to manage him. I was overwhelmed. He was the only guy I’d talked to who had answers. I just gave him everything, completely trusted him and said, ‘Help.’”
Azoff put Walsh together with the lawyer, Lee Phillips, and the two set out to untangle the numerous entanglements of Walsh’s plummeting career. Walsh eventually asked Azoff to manage him. “He said, ‘Shit, I’m flattered. That means I don’t have to be an agent anymore.’ We made a pact they’d never take us alive.”
Azoff did not have the collateral to open his own management office. At suggestion of Phillips, also David Geffen’s lawyer, Azoff went to work out of Geffen’s and Elliott Roberts’ GR Management company, bringing with him Fogelberg and Walsh.
“I had been petrified of working with David,” claims Azoff. But Geffen, who was also president of Asylum Records at the time, had just merged with Elektra records and was heading for a new office. “It ended up just me and Elliott running the office,” says Azoff. “I was a nervous wreck. We had everybody: Crosby-Nash, Joni Mitchell, Neil Young, America, the Eagles, J.D. Souther . . . David had signed Dylan, so we were working on a Band tour as a favor too. Elliot and I were going fucking crazy . . . It was way understaffed.”
Azoff was eventually dispatched to Kansas City to chaperone the Eagles along some of their ’73 Desperado tour. He found a band that was suspicious, broke and aimlessly zigzagging across the country to half-filled houses. Frey and Henley had already held secret meetings with an assistant at GR Management who had confirmed their suspicions of being “badly neglected.”
“The first night we met Irving,” remembers Frey, “Henley and I and him got in a room together. There was something about it. We started telling Irving our problems with the band, our producer, how we wanted our records not to be so clean and glassy and how we were getting the royal fuckin’ screw job.
“He told us he had come in with Walsh and Fogelberg and didn’t know himself. It was perfect from the start. Here was a guy our own age, going through exactly the same thing, catching his rising star the same time we were. We decided that night that Irving would manage us.”
The Eagles began to make public their unhappiness with the Geffen-Asylum connection as Geffen and Roberts were deciding to pare the roster down to a more manageable Neil Young and Joni Mitchell. “Geffen told the Eagles they could leave,” claims Azoff, “but I don’t think they anticipated I would take ‘em. They were pissed.”
“When were we convinced we’d made the right move? Pretty quick, admits Don Henley, six platinum albums later. “Might have been the Bahamas Incident.”
“The Bahamas Incident,” Glenn Frey agrees. There is a reverential silence as Frey silently goes over to the stereo system in the rented L.A. home where he and Henley – “my managers” as Irving calls them – are writing the songs for the next Eagles album. Frey puts on Ralph MacDonald’s eighteen-minute drum epic, “The Path,” and begins to tell the story.
“We have been with Irving six months,” Frey starts. “The Eagles were in the middle of a [1974] tour. We had two days off and didn’t want to stay in New York. We were into big gambling thing – cards all the time – so we decided to go to the Bahamas and gamble for our two days off. Henley, myself, Irving, a pilot and a girlfriend with Don take off for the Bahamas.”
Henley: “We go through this whole thing about not taking anything over. ‘Okay, now, everybody’s got to go in clean . . . . ‘ Everybody goes, ‘Yeah . . . We know . . . I’m not taking anything over, no.’ ‘Me neither.’”
“Turns out,” continues Frey, “everybody except Don and his girlfriend had some kind of dope on him. Irving, on the plane over, took twenty Valiums and put them into a sugar package and stuffed them in his shoe. I put half an ounce of marijuana and my boot. We proceeded to go off to the Bahamas, you know, figuring everything would be okay and there was no way we were gonna get caught for that little bit.
“Well . . . the first person to present her bags [at customs] was Don’s girlfriend. They started looking through her purse and found a pack of cigarette papers. The head customs man, a big guy, starts asking questions. This guy is out to bust us.
“Before we knew it, all six of us were being taken off to be searched.” Somehow, everyone else managed to dump their stuff, leaving me and Henley and Irving,” says Frey. “The two young assistants who are searching everybody physically in the next room say, ‘Who’s next?’ Irving says, ‘I am.’ We look at each other, knowing we can’t reach in our boots. He’s ready to go to jail, right now. Irving goes into the search room and . . . I know he’s getting busted. I’m just waiting for the whole sorry thing to happen . . . waiting for me to be called.
“Irving comes out of the search room five minutes later gives me a wink. Then he walks out scot-free. Now I don’t know what the fuck is happening. Next thing the two assistants are walking toward the door, saying ‘Well, that’s it, chief.’ They search Don, skip me and let us all go.
Frey smiles proudly. “Here is what happened. Irving, when he got into the search room, reached right into his boot, pulled out the Valiums and said, ‘This is what you’re looking for from me . . . I don’t have any prescription bottle with me, but my father is a pharmacist.’ Then he pulls out a fistful of twenties, our gambling money [$5000].
“They wouldn’t take his money. So Irving, on a moral level, did the great sales pitch of all time. He said, ‘Now you guys look like young guys. There’s a kid out there with a blue shirt on who has gold records all over his wall; he’s a rock star. He’s just got a couple of joints with him. If you bust him here, he can’t play in the U.K., Australia, Japan. He brings such enjoyment to people and you’re gonna end his career.”
“One assistant says, ‘If we find the dope on him, we gotta show it to the chief.’
“The other says, ‘No, we don’t', takes the Valium and gives them back to Irving,. ‘We’ll try to skip him,’ he says.
“That was a real-life panic situation. That required more fortitude than doing a concert deal with Bill Graham or something. He definitely had to dig down deep for that one. He saved our ass from winding up with an international drug charge.”
“Hell,” concludes Don Henley, “somebody’s gotta fly this thing.”
Front Line management was in the black from the start. Joe Walsh released The Smoker You Drink, The Player You Get and, as “Rocky Mountain Way” took off, he became a bigger attraction than the James Gang at their peak. Fogelberg released the gold LP Souvenirs, Walsh’s first production. And Azoff introduced the Eagles to a new producer, Bills Szymczyk, and their pivotal On The Border album (featuring “The Best of My Love” ) was finished. “We were,” says Big Shorty, “off to giant start.”
When David Geffen left the Elektra/Asylum post for Warner Brothers films, Azoff was the new empire-builder in town. He hired in-house everything on a fee basis, voraciously eliminating the needless percentages of business management (five percent), a booking agent (ten percent), publicity and more. He renegotiated his contracts every year. His acts toured sparingly, but for maximum profit. The Eagles, Walsh and Fogelberg – like Front Line – began to operate like a well oiled machine. “When you start splitting everything up six or more ways,” says Frey, “you start looking for the extra dollar. And searching for the extra dollar, we’ve found fortunes. Of course, we want to make more money and know where it goes. Why be naive about it? Why die like Stephen Foster, in the Bowery, slitting his wrists, penniless after writing all those wonderful standards.”
For some time Azoff kept his energies just to the Eagles, Fogelberg and Walsh. Then Boz Scaggs, needing a manager, came in for an appointment. Scaggs had heard of Irving and, after managing himself for a few years (“a lot remained undone”), Columbia records, his label, set up a meeting just before releasing Silk Degrees. “He had grown up and developed entirely within this huge industry,” Scaggs says. “It’s awesome at first how much information he carries. I’m convinced he’s gonna be the guy who gets everybody from the Sixties to the Eighties.”
“Boz has since become a very close friend as well as my client,” Azoff says. “I come under criticism, you know, from the ‘rock manager elite.’ How can your clients also be your social peers? That’s the way it happened. It’s like . . . it’s almost like a rock & roll fraternity.”
And, some might argue, Azoff is just panty-raiding his way through the music business. “The ultimate decision I came to was that the whole key to real power in the management business is not to pat yourself on the back and say, ‘I did it.’ I have tried to break a new act every year . . . ”
With the latest additions to Azoff’s operation, Jimmy Buffett and Steely Dan, he has done just that. Both have turned the corner on platinum status since signing with him.
“Why sign with him?” asks Donald Fagen. “He needed a new hobby, why not?”
In fact, Steely Dan and Buffet both had career entanglements. And legal entanglements – contracts – are Azoff’s forte. (He has even taught artists like Bob Seger and Glenda Griffith to “play ball” free of charge.) What enables a man to rip up a contract? “Our wonderful court system takes three or four years to try anything. So while you’re trying to dispute, an act dies and a record company loses multi-multiprofits. So they’ve forced to arbitrate, and it comes down to the old music business tactic of the guy that yells loudest is right. It’s not my fault I have to yell loudest.”
Back in his Front Line office and working late, Azoff is asked about his detractors, of which there are more than a few (in fact, his office wall was once lined with hate mail). The people that don’t yell loudest. The ones that refuse to be quoted for this article. The ones that swear they’ll get him on his way down.
“What way down?” Irving asks innocently. His fingers begin to play with the phone again, but the intercom that only a few hours ago buzzed with calls from Richard Dreyfuss, Kenny Stabler, Donald Fagen, Dan Fogelberg, Alan Cranston, Jerry Brown’s office and all the clients who want to hear the victories of the day . . . is silent. For once, it will not take two hours for him to finish a thought . . . .
“People that aren’t close to me would think I kill for sport . . . you gotta kill sometimes.” He becomes impassioned. “When you get the $40,000-a-year promotion man at the record label who leaves at 11:30 for lunch and comes back at three – and doesn’t work Fridays – you know, it’s a salaried gig to those guys. Here you go, you take your record, your artist’s career and your whole family’s future – you put it in the hands of a man who isn’t gonna make one more dollar if the record’s a hit and what you’re doing is crossing an artistic process with a guy that might as well be selling fucking typewriters. I’m not gonna let some fuckhead stand in the way of that record being a success. If the guy ain’t doing his job, he’s gonna hear about it.”
Last January, Azoff won an unprecedented settlement to retrieve the Eagles publishing back from Warner Communications, the enormous conglomerate that owns Warner/Elektra/Asylum records. With typical zeal, he sued them for $10 million (“my scariest adventure in the business”) and hung on, bit and scratched, as one executive put it, and Warner Communications gave up after two years. “They legally owned our songs,” admits Frey, “but it just wasn’t fair. Nobody has that right. Those songs are our birthright and part of our children’s heritage. Besides . . . it also means I don’t have to hear ‘Take It to the Limit’ as a tire commercial. I thank Irving Azoff every night for that.”
Azoff’s harsh baptism in the movie business does not mean that he will not attempt another entry in the near future. “He takes a lot of meetings of film people,” says Henley, “and he doesn’t forget anything. He’s amazing. He does everything from having my drive-way evaluated to seeing if my property doesn’t extend further to calling program directors direct. He does it all himself . . . and still has time to play tennis.
“We owe him a lot. And when we go out on the town there’s always that look in his eye: ‘This is me and . . . these are my boys.’”
Irving Azoff has that same glow as he walks down the aisle of Stephen S. Wise Temple to his marriage. The Eagles, J.D. Souther, Boz Scaggs and a templeful of Azoff’s closest friends and clients look on warmly. Dan Fogelberg, the original Front Line roster, sits at the organ and plays, instrumentally, his own “To the Morning” and later, Frey’s and Henley’s “Desperado.” The rabbi reminds a demure Irving, the same man who ripped apart two hotel rooms in Florida once just to see what was behind the walls, that he now has a “responsibility to world peace and elimination of destruction.” Irving nods respectfully, a rare sight.
“Look,” he would later confide at the wedding reception in his backyard, perhaps trying on humility for size, “maybe you should just strike all that stuff about me yelling . . . And Universal . . . and everything. Here’s the story: I’m thirty, I come from a tightknit Jewish family. I’m crazy. I’ve got all the power and money I could have wanted. I just don’t think you can balance your nervous system at age thirty without a personal life. I don’t have to yell a lot anymore. I haven’t destroyed a hotel room in years. I’ve met the right person and I’m settling down.”
And on that note, Irving Azoff tenderly smashes his mother-in-law in the face with a piece of the wedding cake.
Courtesy of Rolling Stone #267 – Cameron Crowe – June 15, 1978
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
For a garage rocker from Detroit, Frey is a surprisingly good Country singer.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Frey, despite being a mediocre player, singer and a generally dreadful personality, was essential to the band: the nasty, greasy central cog in the works.
and, um, one of the chief songwriters.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
arrr... apologies about the length, but I couldn't really cut anything out of it.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
here's the thing about Frey the songwriter (& i agree he did write some of the hits): he's invariably teamed up or double-teamed up to get anything decent. Most of the hits aren't just him and Henley, they're Frey/Henley/Souther or Henley/Browne/Souther or it's a Tempchin song, or Felder and Walsh do most of the chords and the riffs. It's hard to assess him on his own.
― col, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
Henley said in a Musician interview linked to upthread that Frey is the ultimate utility player, and it bore out when I saw'em in '03. He played rhythm (more than competently) and lead guitar (better than expected and not flashy), plus keyboards and synths. I don't at all think he's expendable.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
One last trivia bit on Azoff from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irving_Azoff
It has long been rumored that singer/songwriter Randy Newman wrote the song "Short People" as a stab at Azoff (Azoff is 5'3"). Azoff's overaggressive pursuit of Newman for Azoff's Front Line management company is said to have been the reason for Newman's displeasure with Azoff. This rumor has never been definitively confirmed by Newman
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
We don’t rip anybody off . . . it’s just comes down to hard, cold business. I was very fortunate, as were my clients, that the time we all hit, the business quadrupled. A gold album don’t mean shit now. If you handle an Eagles, their road crew and families, you become responsible for fifty-five people and you’re running a $15-million business. You gotta know how to handle the money. You don’t handle it right and the government’ll come take it all away from you.”
otm as far as it goes
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
Recommended reading for how the sausage got made back then: Hit Men: Power Brokers and Fast Money Inside the Music Business
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
"hit men" is fantastic. it should have its own wing in the rock and roll hall of fame.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
I bet Neil Young drove Frey nuts. The eagles and Frey try so hard, & Neil would get all this attention and respect for being weird and remote and doing all this purposeful self sabotage but he can just pull things out of the ether
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
Speaking of Neil, I wonder how many people gravitated towards the Eagles after buying and loving Harvest but then got frustrated when Neil didn't do a proper follow-up.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
then again, one thing neil young could not pull out of the ether was albums that sold 20 or 30 million copies each.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
No, but Neil made sure he got paid. He never had to chase down his money or duke it out with managers/labels like the Eagles did.
(Well, not until the 80s, and he won that battle while simultaneously making Geffen look like an idiot)
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
Recommended reading:https://twitter.com/irvingazoff
― bad bad disco (Eazy), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
http://terrysdiary.com/post/53940092293/irving-azoff-and-jared-leto-at-my-studio
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
but Neil made sure he got paid. He never had to chase down his money or duke it out with managers/labels like the Eagles did.
but the story of rock and roll is the story of artists chasing down their money, sometimes successfully, sometimes not. i'm not sure there's anything unusual in the eagles' story in that regard except that there was more money at stake and they liked to talk about it more than a lot of other artists did.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
No, but Neil made sure he got paid. He never had to chase down his money or duke it out with managers/labels like the Eagles did.(Well, not until the 80s, and he won that battle while simultaneously making Geffen look like an idiot)
Two Words: Buffalo Springfield
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
The first three people Azoff followed on Twitter are Jerry Brown, Bob Lefsetz, and Kim Kardashian. Says it all really...
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
ah right azoff! forgot about him. that's kinda like having the mob backing you up.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Oh...right. But 1968-1988 is still a pretty good streak.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
that's kinda like having the mob backing you up.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
https://twitter.com/FakeIrvingAzoff
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
Yeah but Harvest sold plenty
And Neil had a lot of things the Eagles couldn't buy with all that money
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
"Irv, lookit the size of Neil's amps! Why can't we get amps like those?!"
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
"irv, lookit that bass player that does exactly what neil tells him to do! why can't we get a bass player that does exactly what we tell him to do?!"
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
"Why doesn't my Les Paul sound like his Les Paul?"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
^Also a phrase known to be uttered by Stephen Stills.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
when stephen stills saw neil's road crew he had to go to rehab for a month. true story.
http://ijustreadaboutthat.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/rust.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
okay, not really. but i will never not think about the part in that hotel california book where stills hallucinated that he had been a soldier in vietnam. for years apparently! possibly the weirdest tidbit in the book.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
That Vietnam thing is amazing
Other favorite Stills story is him being high in england and deciding to go visit Park McCartney, he drives his jag to his house wearing a fur coat and McCartney never answered the door
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
he's lucky McCartney didn't pretend Stills was Ringo, shout, "I'll show you all!" and toss him out of the house.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
In Shakey, somebody claims Still bought a new Ferrari (paid for in full with cash Stills carried in a shoebox) especially for the occasion of meeting Maca. He ended up totalling the car in a wreck a few days later.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
haha yeah that stills in vietnam story awesome, reminds me of reagan somehow convincing himself he liberated concentration camps in wwII. one thing i got from shakey was how much the cw in certain circles was that neil should be doing more w/ csn and stop wasting his time w/ crazy horse, the extent to which csny were a focal point of how some ppl thought of him (vs most ppl i know that generally try not to think about csny that much whereas crazy horse stuff is the whole point). anyhow enjoy 'tequila sunrise', even before i decided to abandon kneejerk hatred of the eagles (which isn't the same as abandoning hatred of the eagles) it probably would've made my top whatever eagles songs i tolerate list. one thing i'm curious about w/ this album underperforming and even the single not doing well is when exactly this and 'desperado' (which wasn't even a single) became the 'hits' we know them as today. was it w/ their inclusion on the first greatest hits album? how did 'desperado' merit inclusion on that album - did it get fm play? concert fave? hit cover version by someone else that's been supplanted by the original on classic rock radio?
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
How well did the Linda Ronstadt cover do? It was released as a single the same year...
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
I didn't know until I read HC that Desperado was a flop. I assume the title track was popular on FM radio w/out crossing over pop?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
Something like that. The eagles didn't return to singles juggernaut status til "Best of My Love", which was like the second or third one from On The Border.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
Linda's version didn't chart. I honestly can't recall either version being played on the radio when they were new.
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
tequila sunrise a good gateway to liking tequila, it's got that in its favor
it sounds like "Brass Buttons" with a much dumber concept
― Euler, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
god i wish there was good airplay data w/ 70s fm radio, i always wonder how/when certain classic rock chestnuts entered the playlists, esp on a national scale. did stations just play almost all of zoso immediately or did they play 'black dog' and 'rock n roll' at first (very possible as these were the singles right? 'black dog' crossed over to am top 40 amazingly) and then gave 'stairway' and 'levee' their due and then while they were still waiting for a new zep lp start playing 'misty mountain hop' and 'four sticks'? or was 'misty mountain hop' a hit out of the gate and later 'levee' got it's monolith status, the way 'levon' was a much bigger hit than 'tiny dancer' initially?
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
henley on 'tequila sunrise': I believe that was a Glenn title. I think he was ambivalent about it because he thought that it was a bit too obvious or too much of a cliché because of the drink that was so popular then. I said, 'No-Look at it from a different point of view. You've been drinking straight tequila all night and the sun is coming up!' It turned out to be a really great song.
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
He goes on to talk about how girls made them nervous!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
they turn into witchy women
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
...who make you eat your lunch all by yourself.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link
god i wish there was good airplay data w/ 70s fm radio
Yeah, me too. This isn't much, but links below are from my local FM station circa 1978. They went from pretty much freeform to tightly formatted in 1977, but the morning show still has many holdouts from their mellow album cut daze: Dave Mason, Jackson Browne, Jesse Colin Young...
http://www.radiotapes.com/KQRS/KQRS-FM_Streetsheet_Sept_78a.pdfhttp://www.radiotapes.com/KQRS/KQRS-FM_Streetsheet_Dec_78a.pdf
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
thx!
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
when did AM radio stop being a thing?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
probably late 70s. Whenever the majority of cars got FM radio, basically.
in terms of "Tequila" and "Desperado," agree the 1976 best-of LP made them radio stalwarts. Not sure how much they got airplay before that.
― col, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
yeah if you go to the page for wabc music radio - http://www.musicradio77.com/index.html - you can see it transition from pop to more easy listening and then it finally makes the switch to talk.
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link
In that other laurel canyon book there's a quote from someone (the turtles flo and Eddie guy?) to the effect that the two ppl who didn't do coke were Nash and Neil, and the two who, today, don't have to tour to pay the bills are Nash and Neil.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
well they did coke and plenty but the same way I do chocolate ice cream: if it's offered I eat it, etc
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
i'm the same way, if publix is offering it i eat it
― balls, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:28 (ten years ago) link
the two ppl who didn't do coke were Nash and Neil
The "booger matte" in The Last Waltz would seem to contradict this.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
Man now I'm gonna have to look up that quite. Btw that fucking azoff article was delectable. His fiancée Rochelle Cumsky!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if Frey called her "Rockin' Chugsky"?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
The eagles didn't return to singles juggernaut status til "Best of My Love"
I once asked my dad for a list of songs he liked so I could make him a mix tape. (He was always complaining about how my mom retained custody of his kids and his records, not necessarily in that order.)
All I remember from that last was
BEST OF MY LOVE - The EaglesBEST OF MY LOVE - The Emotions (not the same song!)
I'm getting ahead of myself. I'm trying to save up my valuable Eagles anecdotes, especially for when Don Felder enters the picture.
― pplains, Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
― balls
man do you like their fried chicken? I love Publix fried chicken.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
this thread is delivering so regularly re quality anecdotes & lols & things to think baout, I think I might actually make it through their entire discography
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
the only problem with staying for the entire discography is having to look at that cackling frey and, um, what do you even call that expression on henley's face, every time.. if only ILM had a way to switch out top-of-the-page photos every so often.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
IT'S CALLED BOOKMARKING.
Sorry. Nothing against you FCC. But I don't have to see the OP every time, I don't have to worry about YouTubes, IT'S GREAT.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link
NO OFFENSE TAKEN, THANK YOU! i'm just lazy, that's all. but i will try to come to my senses.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link
THIS OLD THREAD STILL LOOKS THE SAME
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
I just assume everybody that was even marginally famous between 74 and maybe 87 has done coke
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link
And Frey's explanation of Tequila Sunrise is some amazing real life Spinal Tap
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link
bookmarking a good idea. i wanted to keep the embeds to a minimum in case anyone was crazy enough to open the whole thread and look at it. it would be possible if its just links and pictures.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link
Anyone crazy enough to open this thread ~period~ deserves what they get.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:33 (ten years ago) link
sometimes i'm afraid ilx will explode someday cuzzs that facebook thread i started:
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― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link
"cuzza"
which isn't actually a word.
You definitely tapped into some collective hate with that thread.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
"Desperado"
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0812/eagles_desperado_g_mp_576.jpg
http://youtu.be/iDNtqy0zjJA
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
every youtube clip of this song i listened to sounds terrible. including this one. so, sorry for the sound quality. even the ones labeled HD and REMASTERED. most of them seem to come from the same source? do people just copy other people's youtubes to make their own? i guess they do.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link
nice linda ronstadt live version from 1977.
http://youtu.be/oAK5Ids7l5g
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link
i still think that langley schools music project version might be my favorite though. so poignant.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link
langley schools version is kinda the justification for the eagles
don't like the johnny cash cov tho', doesn't seem like the right song for him at all
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
This is flawless of course. Why on earth did they not release it as a single though? Was that a trend at the time, holding the best thing back for the album, like Gimme Shelter or Stairway to Heaven?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:06 (ten years ago) link
yeah, this is on another level from the rest of the album. Lyric in the second bridge is one of Henley and Frey's finest: pure prairie depression.
― col, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
langley schools version definitely my fave also
http://www.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Screen-shot-2012-03-07-at-11.15.11-AM.png
― balls, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
warren zevon, who ran in the same circles as the eagles and who was equally capable of parodying them and paying them homage, wrote and recorded two songs with desperado in the title: "desperadoes under the eaves" and "gorilla, you're a desperado." it's pretty clear, i think, that both titles are directed at henley, frey and company, though the two songs are very different. but i never noticed until today how much "desperado" itself sounds like a zevon song, musically, lyrically, delivery, everything. zevon was a detail guy and may have felt moved to make the lyrics a bit more place-specific or person-specific, but otherwise, if you told me wrote this, i'd believe you. a great song.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
Sending this one out to VG. Not a loser was lonesome in this place!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q47FDEfT9DY
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
"Frank and Jesse James" off Zevon's first LP also seems like an outtake from Desperado.
― col, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
henley sings on 'gorilla you're a desperado' right?
― balls, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
I recall the Grace Lichtenstein re: "Desperado" in "Stranded" is pretty good.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
Ooo I have a childhood anecdote about this one: my father dragged me along with him to visit one of his sundry girlfriends and after getting me set up with some crayons and coloring books in the kitchen, they adjourned to the living room where the girlfriend put on Desperado and said to my father, "This song reminds me of you." I have a very distinct memory of rolling my eyes.
Anyway, I like this one, too, but definitely not for the same reason.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
I live the bit about how over time the desperado will become bleached of all feeling, less human.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
Love the bit*
Maybe I'm livin it too
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
henley, j.d. souther and jackson browne. browne sings on "desperadoes under the eaves" too.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
Girlfriend was right about that part, at least. xp
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
Freedom as loss of self/progressive neurasthenia
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
lol carl
― balls, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
One of my two fave Eagles tracks (it'll be a while before we're at the other one). Corny as hell, but effectively and rather nakedly so; it'll be a long while before its bleached of all feeling for me.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
if ever there was an eagles song destined to be sung at talent shows and karaoke night or just about anywhere its this one. its great if you can hit high notes like linda ronstadt but you can be a pretty limited singer range-wise and still pull it off. just make a sad face and look like you're gonna cry. you can sing it softly. or you can go big.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
Desperados Under the Eaves is beyond great. Desperado... not quite there.
― g simmel, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
Starting to feel like I'm the only one here whose appreciation of the Eagles works its way backward from The Long Run.
The cowboy shit annoys the hell out of me. These guys weren't exactly Marty Robbins.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
No I'm with you on that. The % if tracks I like per album goes up with the more rockin aor albums.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
But the cowboy shit has its moments!
Would've loved to have seen an exiled Bernie Leadon listening to "Hotel California" for the first time and going, "But where are the banjos?"
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
Or Bing Crosby for that matter. Faux cowboy stuff is fine by me btw.
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
Such a fine line. It's why Uncle Tupelo could pull it off and Whiskeytown couldn't. It's much easier for me to picture Kid Rock as a cowboy than Don effin' Henley.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
I didn't think I hated this song, but after listening to it again, yeah, I do. It's the moment when the Eagles finally realize they will never, ever be the Band, so hey, let's dress up like them!http://theband.hiof.no/band_pictures/band_mfbp_back.jpg
The song seems to be about this realization: they've resigned themselves to their fate as slick L.A. studio flumpfers, and their strengths were in writing shitty faux-soundtrack music for slick, painless cowboy movies that they imagined themselves starring in.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
and they got haircuts!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
Tarfumes on the mark. May have been bigger egos in The Band too, but they pulled it off.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
Just closed my eyes and did a search for Don Henley Robbie Robertson, and hey look, it's a Scorsese soundtrack.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
soooo many groups wanted to be The Band! (in the BBC documentary based on the Hoskyns bk, David Crosby makes a point of saying how terrifying it was to have The Band watching em from the side of the stage during their second ever gig (at Woodstock))
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
http://www.bb-ochiai.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/sholo.jpg
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/longbranchpennywhistlecover.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
guess don didn't want to cowboy up for the shiloh cover shot.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq285/atthetroubadour/Don%20Henley/DonCuteBlueEyes_zps53a95334.jpg
http://www.thirteen.org/13pressroom/files/2012/08/HN720023.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/DHenleyShilohInsert.jpg
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/felicity3.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/DHenleyfourspeeds1966.jpg
i don't really get the band thing. always felt like they were going for the dusty desert west coast thing. byrds-derived more than band-derived. the byrds were dressing up like cowboys pretty early on. the charlatans, etc.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
i mean i've never thought of the band when hearing the eagles. lets put it that way.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
the band were more civil war and the eagles more gold rush.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
That's true. And I didn't see the Eagles as Band wanna-be's at all until I saw the doc. Their whole attitude seemed to revolve around being a version of The Band that made a shitload of money and had huge hits (two things The Band never really did).
And yeah, the Byrds and the Buffalo Springfield and other bands wore cowboy hats and western gear in '65-'67, but the Band inspired the whole neo-"authenticity"/"back to the land" post-psychedelic hangover thing that so much of country rock took its cues from. True, there was a ton of country rock prior to Big Pink, but a lot of it was Dylan/Band/Basement Tapes influenced (the tapes made the rounds among musicians in '67-'68), and the scene went from hippies dressing as slick country bands and playing the Opry (as the Byrds did) to hippies digging in the dust with mustaches.
(but I'm probably wrong/oversimplifying a lot of this)
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
many xposts to pplains --- aaahhhh!! thank you for posting that LRB version, I love it!!!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
I really like this song but I think I like it more when Linda Ronstadt sings it. She brings a bit more feeling to it, where as Henley just sings it nice but he's kinda holding back.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
"Another thing that interests me about the Eagles is that I hate them. "Hate" is the kind of up-tight word that automatically excludes one from polite posthippie circles, a good reason to use it, but it is also meant to convey an anguish that is very intense, yet difficult to pinpoint. Do I hate music that has been giving me pleasure all weekend, made by four human beings I've never met? Yeah, I think so. Listening to the Eagles has left me feeling alienated from things I used to love. As the culmination of rock's country strain, the group is also the culmination of the counterculture reaction that strain epitomizes. "
Christgau, '72: http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/bk-aow/eagles.php
― col, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
its kind of hard to overestimate the influence of the byrds on so many different types of people from 1966 until the 70's. but certainly dylan/band had just as much influence. both coasts were covered. folk people in general get lost in the shuffle as far as getting credit for bringing old country/mountain music to the kids/hippies. people like mike seeger and a million others toured college campuses for years all through the 60's and made country music cool to non-country audiences. thus the college jug band/string band phenomena of the 60's. every hip college having their olde-tyme combos. just as their were a million collegiate hot jazz societies and bands all across the country in the 40's and 50's.
(not to mention the endless stream of actual folk/blues/country vets who made the college circuit back then.)
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
Their whole attitude seemed to revolve around being a version of The Band that made a shitload of money and had huge hits
Flying Burrito Bros surely?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
But, yeah, the Byrds, but if you thought the Eagles were "hardly Marty Robbins", what about McGuinn?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
A related question: what was the relationship, if any, between this album and the crossing-over of outlaw country, which I guess came a little later? Coincidence? Common influences? The idea that Waylon, Willie, and the boys were somehow copying the Eagles seems comical, but something was going on.
― Brad C., Wednesday, 4 September 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
it was in the air. well, a lot of things were in the air, but this was one of the things in the air. southern rock via allman brothers and Capricorn really starting to take off too.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
outlaw also a reaction to country pop of the era. those dudes weren't having it. no sir.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
Their whole attitude seemed to revolve around being a version of The Band that made a shitload of money and had huge hitsFlying Burrito Bros surely?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b7/Poco_1970.jpg
(Frey said as much)
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link
As for "Desperado", I get kind of a Tumbleweed Connection vibe off of this one. Haven't heard Linda's yet, but it seems like the lyric (which, iirc, is written in the voice of a female character) would suit her well. I also remember hearing how bad Henley sounded on the Johnny Cash version when it came out, and at the time if I'd been able to wager money on who'd be dead within a year of it's recording, I wouldn't have picked Johnny.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
The idea that Waylon, Willie, and the boys were somehow copying the Eagles seems comical
Waylon's rock roots pre-date the Eagles (and the Byrds too for that matter). Willie never rocked, really.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
Nash has got a tell-all book coming out in a couple of weeks.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
drug the one you're with
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
Suite: Judy Glassy Eyes
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
wineevere
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
Take It, Sleazy
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Crosby himself had just recently ended things with Mitchell, but he was generous with his women, one night even asking his girlfriend, Christine Hinton, to head downstairs to share Nash’s bed.
bleargh...
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
yet Joni Mitchell is never called 'generous with her men' despite bedding the three of them.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
I don't see Frey nor Henley doing that.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
Crosby's sexual appeal is a complete mystery to me
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
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― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
I mean I get the whole "power is an aphrodisiac" thing but he was a bald, bloated coke-addled walrus
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
he's so hobbity
Shakey is good at demystifying the fucker. Those in the know laughed their asses off looking at him.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
i think david crosby had extremely high levels of #swag
some women find it irresistible
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
J.D. Souther is the only one of these soulless miscreants I would've allowed to fuck me, after which I'd cry and write a ballad for Linda Ronstadt.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
yeah in Hotel California Souther comes off as this super Lothario who seemed to hold sway over Frey and Henley even at their peak....
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
loooool Alfred
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
like in the band private jet JD got to sit in the front w.Frey and Henley and the other dudes in the Eagles had to sit in the back
as far as desperado
i can't really hear this song anymore
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
"You're a musician?!"http://i500.listal.com/image/1028921/500full.jpg
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
and if I remember the book correctly Souther acknowledges that Geffen eyed him a few times.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
this is the only way I would have hung out with them
http://www.urbanfarmonline.com/images/bee-keeping/safe-beekeeping_250.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
you would have needed that suit and a Publix bag full of poisoned nettles.
i would have a bee-cannon as well to spray them with live bees if needed
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
Souther comes off as this super Lothario who seemed to hold sway over Frey and Henley even at their peak...
and he's pretty much the only person who holds any real sway over rayna james. i'm sure she'd let him sit in the front of her jet.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
haha ok i had to look that up i've never seen nashville but glad JD is working
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:08 (ten years ago) link
I thought Souther would be set financially for the rest of his life.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
Souther has credits on most the big imperial era Eagles tracks, with some reports claiming a bunch of those songs began with him. Very front of the plane dude.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
So Dylan is to blame for all this like "The Band" bs. Figures since he and The Grateful Dead are the only ones that ruined American music more than The Eagles.
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
mellow out man
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link
literally
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link
so is desperado the template for the power ballad? are there earlier power ballads to be aware of?
it's a pretty immaculately constructed song, but it's also just so totally ridiculous.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, September 4, 2013 9:06 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think the A&R guys genuinely thought this wouldn't likely be a hit. Thus far, their uptempo singles tended to sell better, especially those by outside writers. The two singles that had already been released fell far short of the top 40, and were ignored outside the US. I think they wanted more crazed banjos, or at least gritty guitars on the instrumental bridge.
Is it just me, or does the string section hold onto certain notes on the outro way past their sell-by date?
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
Also: the Eagles' rise as multiplatinum threat coincided with the softening of the American and British charts. Check out the non-disco and R&B hits on the 1974-1976 charts; then El Lay studio rock rose as a complement to disco.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
desperado's just a ballad though? it's not really a power ballad imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
Even if "Desperado" is a power ballad, there's got to be some that came before it. Like Bread for example starting in 1969 - "Make It With You" and "Baby I'm a-Want You" were the power ballads against hard rockers like "Mother Freedom" and "Truckin'". It's just that their rockers didn't become hits, so they became perceived as a (very) soft-rock act rather than a rock band balancing their rockers with AM radio-friendly power ballads.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
but it's not a power ballad
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
its got drums kicking in midway through, strings, backup vox, it's a total power ballad!
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
you're a power ballad
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
vegemite raises a good point
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
the drums and the strings is just the way it builds to a climax, lots of ballads do this and the slightly bigger crescendo does not = 'power'
imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
It's powered by Henleytonium®!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
I think of "power ballad" as more a marketing term than a musical genre. It's like when an '80s pop-metal band quiets down for an uncharacteristicly slow and melodic single that wouldn't be too wimpy for the AOR stations of the day but would be palatable to top-40 or adult-contemporary tastes as well.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
a true power ballad is ballady enough to get you out on the dancefloor for a slow dance with a girl at a junior high dance but then rocks hard enough at a certain point to make going through the motions of slow dancing seem really awkward
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
also you have to be able to picture it blaring out of a Camaro
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
you have to be able to picture it blaring out of Henley-Frey-Souther's apartment.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
jesus you guys desperado can totally be blared out of a camaro
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link
desperado has no power
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
xpost your camaro maybe
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
"J.D. Souther is the only one of these soulless miscreants I would've allowed to fuck me"
jackson too girly? he was a dreamboat to most.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
he's a ponderous fellow
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
And a hitter iirc
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
i can't stand him. creepy
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
would you throw ned doheny out of bed for eating crackers?
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XwouzFuEMKI/hqdefault.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2802/4291945493_6fba783e6b.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
great album that used to sell for a dollar and now sells for $$$ thanks to the young and the hip.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:46 (ten years ago) link
So guys... I never heard early Linda ronstadt before an hour ago. This Capitol Years 2CD fucking slays in every way. Holy crap.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
Ned Doheny admitted in HC that Geffen was checking him out.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
"a true power ballad is ballady enough to get you out on the dancefloor for a slow dance with a girl at a junior high dance but then rocks hard enough at a certain point to make going through the motions of slow dancing seem really awkward"
journey and reo rule this land.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:52 (ten years ago) link
and that scorpions song.
stiiiiiiiiiiiiiilll loving youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
Cuz you know it's youuuuu baaaabeWhenever I get weary and I've haaaad enough
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
linda ronstadt was amazing. i love her voice. would listen to 2 disc capitol thing.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
still loving you is so great. would have loved to hear linda ronstadt sing it.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link
it's a badass power ballad for sure
UNLIKE DESPERADO
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
i forgot about that doheny song title "i get it up for love". says it all.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 4 September 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
totally. scorps kick ass on that song and still melt hearts.
I'm pretty sure we played "Desperado" as a slow dance at my school.
Eagles were big up there. It was even our mascot.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
Ned Doheny s/t is terrific, haven't heard Hard Candy yet.
You all nailed it - Camaro blarability is the key measure of power balladry.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link
speaking of eagles friends always loved windmills by rick roberts. henley on drums/backing vox:
http://youtu.be/lRElZswFQMo
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
also good:
http://youtu.be/YrKU00PaMPU
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:20 (ten years ago) link
well there's one moment -- the second to last chord of the song -- where the strings are doing a graceful ritard while the piano impatiently anticipates the chord, so if anything it's not the strings holding on for too long but the piano letting go too soon. but it's a cool effect!
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 5 September 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link
in 2005, when I still received everything Rhino put out, they sent me the box of all the Eagles records. So I became familiar with 'em in a way that I never would have if I had to spend money on 'em, etc etc (that's hardly anyone's concern now)…
The Long Run is far away my favorite, and I expect to contribute to this hugely entertaining thread as soon as it gets to records I like/ have something to say about.
But in light of where the thread is now, may I refer you all to the first ILM thread I ever started. To me in 2006, "desperado" is like a Ray Charles song. so was "new York State of Mind."
TS: "Desperado" vs. "New York State of Mind"
― veronica moser, Thursday, 5 September 2013 04:33 (ten years ago) link
My god Hell Freezes Over rode the top ten in '94-'95 for six months.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 11:04 (ten years ago) link
"Certain Kind Of Fool"
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/whitcap/randyutc-1.jpg
http://youtu.be/JPsB__7MemQ
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:03 (ten years ago) link
IT'S RANDY'S TIME TO SHINE!
playing this on the front porch just now i suddenly got embarrassed and turned it down in case anyone walked by...
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link
oh god i think my neighbor heard me i didn't see them there in front of their house...
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link
"turn up the eagles the neighbours are listening"!!
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link
BONUS 1980 SOLO RANDY VIDEO!!!!
http://youtu.be/k3jFaDmC1t0
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link
This so strange, it's like an amalgam of all the artists The Eagles would've been aspiring to - the intro is pure Joni, it goes sort of uninspired Neil in the chorus, there're CS&N and power leads in there - and yet it doesn't sound like The Eagles at all.
It's pretty terrible in truth. More boilerplate r'n'r. The solo is very good and I like the oo-oos; the dual guitar at the end not so much; the bass is okay; the drum roll at the end is plain weird. What the hell is the story? Some kind of lame moralising, why are they glamorising outlaws then moving onto this.
The vocal is a bit horrible but at least it's got a tense kind of urgency to it. How's that, is it all fifths? Reminds me of the pleading in the Beatles' Dr Robert, though that was for effect, rather than the adolescent whine that this basically is.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
i dare you to remember what it sounds like five minutes after you play it.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
"They say that he was craaaazy,The kind that no lady should meetHe ran out to the ciiiity and wandered around in the street "
this is pretty dire. I guess it's sorta clever that the second verse could be about a guy buying/practicing a guitar as much as it's (apparently) him becoming a gunslinger, in keeping with the "rock stars are the new outlaws" crackpot theme of the LP. Otherwise, ugh. I thought Meisner was a better singer than this.
agree there's a Neil Young feel to the chorus, but like eighth-generation Neil Young.
― col, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link
I disagree, I think it's quite memorable because of the vocal. But still rubbish though. Crappy lyrics too - "he was a poor boy, raised in a small family" - not going for the telling detail at all there.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
i like the chord progression. everything else could use some work. still better than at least half of the first lp.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 5 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
haha the vocals sound weird...like in a different key?
some of the verse reminds me of if Styx was country rock
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
its really clunky. kind of ahead of its time though for 1973. by 1978 there would be a zillion AOR bands writing songs like this.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link
guys like this. they took inspiration from randy.
http://www.popsike.com/pix/20120622/290732554815.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link
fyi: that EP by The Deal sells for a ton if you ever see it. 200 dollar record.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
why?
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
Sounds really familiar. Like did Cher do a cover of this?
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
the intro sounds REALLY familiar. like its a song i should know. another song.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
The vocals remind me a little of Chris Bell on "I Am The Cosmos": he's at the top of his range (but not really, as we'd see in "Take It To The Limit"), and straining just a little. It works with Bell, not as much with Meisner.
Verse reminds me of the Motels' "Only the Lonely" ("They say that he was craaaazyy"/"It's like I toooolllld you")
Sounds kinda unfinished, like Meisner was pushing the guys to do a drawn-out ending and Henley was like, "Nope, you're done."
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
"why?"
beats me. i sell a lot of stuff like that to italy for some reason. private press/tiny label AOR stuff in general always good to sell. 70's and early 80's.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
huh...that's so weird...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9nq6Dml4PA
^this band later featured a super young Dave Ellefson from Megadeth
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
The Litterer Band were a big AOR band in nothern Iowa in the late 70s and early to mid 80s...though they sorta retooled as a hair metal band like a lot of those bands did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bgDNtXNUXg
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
the intro sounds REALLY familiar. like its a song i should know. another song
Carey by Joni Mitchell?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
amazing that afterwards one song stays here and the other goes there
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
it's a no embeds thred m@tt
― zvookster, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
oops if anyone is a mod they can take it out
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
oh before i forget we need a group vote. coming up is a 48 second instrumental on the Desperado album and i need to know whether i should pair it with the next actual song or do we just talk about a 48 second instrumental tomorrow. i'll leave it up to you guys.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
48-second instrumental please
Listening to this and Joni back-to-back has sledgehammered home The Eagles' fundamental averageness, I need as much of a break as thread concept can give me.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
Friday would be the perfect day for me to enjoy a 48-second Eagles song.
I'm on board with reprises getting their own days in the sun too.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
another vote for the miniature instrumental (& the reprise)
― col, Thursday, 5 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
I'm down with 48 seconds
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
Ditto
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
A Certain Kind of Fool is almost good. I like the plaintive, strained singing on the verses. But not quite. This is miles above Frey filler though.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
okay got it. 48 seconds seems like a nice reward on a friday.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
everything about this, from the big ringing acoustic gtr chords, to the "poor boy raised in a small family" conceit, to the "he wants to dance" bridge that introduces his dream while kicking the song into electric rock gear, sounds like the beginning of a heartland rock anthem circa bryan adams, journey, etc., with maybe a little bit of tom petty and johnny cougar tossed in. this could be the exact song that invented the 1980s. except that it abruptly ends at the very point where it should be exploding into the gigantic radio hook that they've been holding out on through that 3-minute buildup.
also, it's really not very good.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 5 September 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
Given the context of the album "Desperado" the song has a double meaning. On one hand, it's about a wannabe gunslinger; in another sense, it's about a guitar player learning his chops, in hopes of becoming a rock star. - Tim in Denver
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
Gleeeeeennn Freeeyyyy, when will you come to your seeeenseeeees
YOU GOTTA LET SOMEBODY LOOOOOOVE YOU
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
On one hand, it's about a wannabe gunslinger; in another sense, it's about a guitar player learning his chops, in hopes of becoming a rock star.
which reminds me of the other '80s band that "certain kind of fool" seems to be a template for: bon jovi.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 5 September 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
Funny you should say that since the next commenter on songfacts.com says
You both are right on! I like the way the songs meld into one another. Again Desparado is one of the best albums ever...along with Bon Jovi's soundtrack album for Young Guns. Yea, I like the reference of either or gunslinger or guitar player..so so so cool! - Valerie in Eureka, Calif.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
yeah that young guns soundtrack is amaz--*shoots self*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
... with a guitar
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
the gunslinger/rock star metaphor was thoroughly explored elsewhere in 1973 by billy joel on "the ballad of billy the kid," and a year later by bad company on "bad company." among others.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
You need to read the cameron crowe eagles article which is on the same site as the Irv Azoff profile that was linked upthread. You'll sing that even louder.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
That site is chock full of Crowe laurel canyony archival stuff, so awesome
Good blurbs.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
these guys are humanitarian:
Lujack cuts drummer Don Henley short. “Linda Ronstadt.” The name rolls off his lips with lecherous abandon. “She’s probably my favorite chick singer, heh-heh. Say, I remember reading somewhere that the Eagles do the best ‘ooo’s in the business. What do you say to that?”
” ‘ooo’s for bucks, Larry, that’s our motto.” Frey flashes a sly grin. “The only difference between boring and laid back is a million dollars.”
Lujack chortles mirthlessly. “You rock & rollers are all alike, aren’t you? Hey, is it true you guys want to sound like Al Green? What’s the matter, you tired of being cowboys?”
“That’s actually very true,” Henley deadpans. “We almost called this record Black in the Saddle….”
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that's from the article I was talkin about. Later on there's some thoughtful Glenn gems.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
Glemms.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
If you had a machine that could pop out a generic 'meaningful' 70s Rock song after programming in a few ingredients (acoustic rhythm guitar, anthem-y chorus, working class pathos), "Certain Kind of Fool" is what would come out.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
Don Henley sits alone at the table tonight. He looks like he could be a better-looking younger brother of Mac Davis.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
better looking that mac davis? shut yo mouf
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
He gets better looking each day.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
Take this job and chug it
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
Lujack chortles mirthlessly.
Haha, Larry Lujack was the DJ I probably listened to the most growing up. Despite (or maybe because of) being a top Top 40 DJ in Chicago, he was a huge Throbbing Gristle fan.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
been listening to new dylan bootleg thing and byrds remasters on cd at the store all week and i can't say it makes eagles a highlight of my day. i can handle it though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link
Hey Scott. Younger than Yesterday or 5D if you could only have one?
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
sheesh its a toss-up. 5D sounded really good the other day. if i had to pick one though i might have to go with notorious because i wouldn't want to live without "Goin' Back". carole king wrote that one. every time i hear it i just go ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...............that's the stuff.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
haha, what is with Glenn Frey stating the address of every house he lived in from that CC article?
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
Xpost I already have the notorious bros remaster. Tryin to decide which to get next. Notorious has been in top 5 sixties records for ages. The segue into "get to you" = heaven.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
In my top 5*
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
oh okay! just get them both. i can't remember what the extra stuff is but there is extra stuff on both that is good.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
#googlestreetviewswag
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
If you're in the US, you can get all of the Byrds remasters (bar Untitled) for $5 or less new. GET...THEM...ALL
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
the only dylan bootleg series i have for sale in the store right now
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1173649_10152489824862137_1056945951_n.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
i like herbie mann in the corner there. he's saying: don't buy that boring shit. hang out with me and my pal roy ayers.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, September 5, 2013 2:28 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And yeah, I was looking them up until Frey says something like "I got a letter at 1426 E. Canyon Rock Trail, Apt. E5, that said..." and I was all Damn, dude's playing me like one of his crappy songs.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
He's also trying to tell us were the sexy girls are:
She moved in next door to meAnd she showed me her worldWhat a neighbor, thanks for the favorShe's a very sexy girlShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girlShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girlI got a feeling I can't go wrong'Cause every time I see herIt's like hearing my favorite songShe's already down the stepsShe's way down the blockBut my heart keeps beating fasterAnd it just won't stopShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl, that's rightShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girlI love to take her walkin' and when we started talkin'I'd tell her she's the finest I've ever seenShe'd look into my eyes but then I realizeI'm holding on to a dreamShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl, she's mineShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girlStop any man walking down the streetAsk him what kind of girl he'd like to meetThere's not one thing in this whole wide worldHe'd rather see than a sexy girlShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl, oh yeahShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl
She's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girlShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl
I got a feeling I can't go wrong'Cause every time I see herIt's like hearing my favorite songShe's already down the stepsShe's way down the blockBut my heart keeps beating fasterAnd it just won't stop
She's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl, that's rightShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl
I love to take her walkin' and when we started talkin'I'd tell her she's the finest I've ever seenShe'd look into my eyes but then I realizeI'm holding on to a dream
She's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl, she's mineShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl
Stop any man walking down the streetAsk him what kind of girl he'd like to meetThere's not one thing in this whole wide worldHe'd rather see than a sexy girl
She's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl, oh yeahShe's a sexy girl(Sexy girl, sexy girl)She's a very sexy girl
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
if i remember correctly, he gets his ass beat in that video.
and shot in smugglers blues, damn. glenn what's wrong?
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
I remembered incorrectly.
video's probably better without the sound anyway.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
FYI: you can watch entire episodes of Glenn Frey's horrible 90's t.v. show South Of Sunset on Youtube:
http://youtu.be/KzaXnFGxbyk
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
he should have done "North of Tequila Sunrise."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
I have never been so filled with equally opposite "OMG IT WILL BE HORRIBLE" reactions of joy and choking horror
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
if I shoot my tv will Glenn Frey pay for a new one y/n
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
Or "South of 810 E. Sunset Boulevard, Suite 29-A"
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
haha pplains
FYI: you can watch entire episodes of Glenn Frey's horrible 90's t.v. show South Of Sunset on Youtube
Episodes!? Only one aired (and my family watched it) before the ax fell. Somebody was diggin' deep to get the others.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
the rest of the episodes are just frey acting them out on his own in his garage
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
South of Sunset is an American TV detective series, starring musician/actor Glenn Frey, that only aired one episode on CBS in 1993.[1]Frey played Cody McMahon, a private eye whose offices were located just south of Sunset Boulevard in Beverly Hills. As a result, he calls his business the Beverly Hills Detective Agency, despite the fact he's in the "low-end" part of town. Aries Spears co-starred as Cody's young assistant Ziggy Duane, and Maria Pitillo played his cute blond secretary (and aspiring actress) Gina Weston. The show was a combination of comedy and suspense, reminiscent of ABC's hit series Moonlighting. The show was created by John Byrum, who wrote all six of the episodes that were produced, and served as co-executive producer with Stan Rogow. The show was heavily promoted during the 1993 World Series by CBS.However, only the pilot of South of Sunset ever aired, on October 27, 1993—and not even to the entire country. News coverage of wild fires in Malibu pre-empted the show's lone episode on many West Coast stations, including KCBS in Los Angeles itself.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
i want some dirt from aries spears. i'll bet he's got some good stories.
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
you guys I think we need to be making use of this incredible resource itt
http://thisdayineagleshistory.blogspot.com/
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
VH1 played all six episodes during some Eagles week they had.
Oh, okay. That's a pretty sweet GTO Frey's driving in the opening credits.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
http://glennfreyonline.com/images/GFreySOSHeyBabe.jpg
CHUG EVERY NIGHT
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
NO BELTS ALLOWED
The heat is on....CBS!
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
GUILTY...OF BEING AWESOME
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
It's the politics of the Nielson's/It's the Cancelled After One Ep Blues...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
The only way they could've done worse by promoting it during the 1993 World Series would've been to promote it during the 1994 World Series.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
has any musician ever radiated toxic levels of smarm to such a degree as Glenn Frey
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
you mean besides don henley!
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
uh gene simmons?
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
oh wait you said musician...
Frey was great in Jerry Maguire, but I suspect it was a bit of "Let's cast an asshole to play an asshole, but he's so much of an asshole that he'll have no idea he's playing an asshole, which will make him appear to be even more of an asshole" casting on the part of Cameron Crowe.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
http://chs.live.mediaspanonline.com/assets/469437/glenn_frey-3.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
man this south of sunset show is p bad
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
alfred I'm fp'ing you for that photo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
you're welcome!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
Delete my eyes!!!!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
sorry can't type, I'm washing my keyboard since I threw up all over it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
You'll have to clean up your lunch all by yourself.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
Doctor my eyes!!!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:44 (ten years ago) link
frey eyes
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
take it hairy
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
an expression used when you see something truly sickening. argh, i've got frey eyes!
― scott seward, Thursday, 5 September 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
― carl agatha, Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
frey was pretty good in his episode of miami vice iirc. no leonard cohen mind you but decent.
― balls, Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
Sounds like Supertramp.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
I was watching the complete "Crime Story" recently and was a little disappointed that Mann didn't roll Frey over from MV to play a band leader who gets into a range war with Frank Holman.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, September 5, 2013 4:36 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― scott seward, Thursday, September 5, 2013
http://videokeman.com/image/pics/GlennFreysongPics1ZCWyrAHapUdzFM.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey is...The Most Interesting Man In The World
"Stay chugging, my friends."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
Frey's head and face are the size of my living room sofa.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
Before this thread, it had been awhile since I had actively reviewed photographs of Glenn Frey. I always remembered him as a handsome guy.
I incorrectly remembered.
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
his early hippie glamor shots are okay
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
i think he superficially scans as "handsome" if you don't really pay attention but he's really not
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
http://www.berkshirefinearts.com/uploadedImages/articles/925_Paul-Benedict605474.jpg
When you remember those nights in his arms,You know you'll have to make up your mind....
― pplains, Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), W
The only way Glenn Frey would touch me is if he raped me, but when I tried to sue him he dispatched Irving Azoff to take care of me. I wrote "You're No Good" soon afterwards.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
he was not bad in the early days
http://24.media.tumblr.com/51ee542473b90bea43097e9e1a772771/tumblr_mlmtshnS7D1rskaaoo1_500.png
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
It's the eyes. They're dead.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
yeah I think yr right
his hair is v shiny tho, I'll give him that
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
John Travolta coulda played him if Travolta were straight.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
12" mix of "You Belong to the City" came up on a mix I was listening to the other day, and it sounded great!
― Euler, Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
He plays all the instruments except sax! Glenn Oh My!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
I do secretly like that song
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
http://youtu.be/Mg_ZLGpo5tE
― Euler, Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
FREYPSI
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
omg that commercial
when he played this in 2003 we were blessed with a back projection of pink flamingos and witchy wimmin.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
I wish he'd reinterpreted it as YOU BELONG TO THE COLA, YOU BELONG TO THE ICE
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 September 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
DRINKIN DOWN THE CARBONATION OF BUBBLES
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 September 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
haha man that commercial
glen's voice is so weenie
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
"Chug (Pepsi) All Night"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
Also: Is there an outtake wherein Glenn's pornstache catches fire?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
lol is crockett cruising that dj twink?
― balls, Thursday, 5 September 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link
o wait that's a different one up there. ILM BEHOLD YR NEW GOD: http://youtu.be/XqFy3y0GW58
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 00:01 (ten years ago) link
vinyl!!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
OMG GUYS - http://youtu.be/0HByh60JAlc
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link
i want an hour and a half of this
PAL
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Don Johnson returned the favor by asking the Eagles to play on Heartbeat.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2013 00:11 (ten years ago) link
heartbeat video plays pretty great is you view it as a short musical film filling us in on gus fring's mysterious past
also hilarious: when crockett hits those high notes and when crockett just drops some kid he's saving over a wall
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
When I was a kid, I had a monster truck video that had a bunch of 'music videos' set to footage of monster truck and related stuff (motorcross, tractor pulls, demolition derbies etc.). Among the tracks were "Manic Mechanic" by ZZ Top, "Slippin' and Slidin'" by Willy & The Poorboys (Honeydrippers knock-off w/Paul Rodgers) & "Better In The USA" by Mr. Frey. Sadly, none of it is on youtube.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 September 2013 00:23 (ten years ago) link
haha, i remember those weird fake music videos nearly every entity would come up w/ - disney had them (i think the disney channel even had a show called 'disney rocks' or whatever that was just old donald duck shorts chopped up and vaguely matched up to various motown songs. the nba would put out videos of just highlights that we'd just watch over and over w/ similar half assed 'music videos', watched this one the other night - http://youtu.be/ospDD4fXeYE. somehow have ZERO memories of those pepsi ads or of 'better in the usa' period.
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
jesus man we're always on the same wavelength. I associate "Private Eyes," "Every Breath You Take," and "Mickey" with those Disney montages.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link
I'd rather listen to "The Warrior" than most anything by the Eagles. Ditto for the Pepsi jingle.
― Euler, Friday, 6 September 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
Xpost In his singles book, Dave Marsh claimed the Disney vid for "Uptight" to be one of the best and most effective videos he'd seen. It starred Donald Duck.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 September 2013 00:44 (ten years ago) link
i used to HATE those disney music videos so much, i can remember we had this 'music class' in fifth grade and the teacher would get sick of hearing us play frere jacques w/ our recorders or whatever and be like 'alright kids yall want to watch some music videos' and i'd be like 'GOD YES' and then it'd be some disney rocks garbage and i'd be like 'the fuck is this, put on some ratt'. i think for like the first two years 30% of the videos they'd show on vh1 were like stock footage montage videos for old ccr and young rascals and turtles hits. it outraged me then (maybe my earliest budding of corny indie fuxxor, coinciding w/ the onset of puberty), now i find it hilarious and charming and seek out crap like this on youtube - http://youtu.be/Kc-ixsyq9mk .
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
xpost lol -
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120206035432/disney/images/0/04/DTV.jpg
One of the greatest music videos I've ever seen was a Disney cartoon featuring Donald Duck in a jealous rage because Daisy was being wooed by some mallard Lothario. Set to "Uptight," the video winds up with Donald in a total spitting frenzy as Daisy and her new beau enter a tunnel of love. What makes it so exciting isn't Donald's lunacy but the wildness of Stevie's music, the pure surge of magical Motown mechanics: cutting guitar, rolling bass, and thundering drums augmented by braying brass. Stevie, all of fifteen years old, sputters almost as incoherently as Donald. It took me about fifteen years to figure out that he was singing "Got empty pockets, you see, I'm a poor man's son," because he sings the whole line as if it was one word. And he pushes that hard for almost the whole song; there are other lines here that will never be translated, because he might as well be speaking in tongues that only he and that adrenalin addict playing drums could ever hope to comprehend.On the other hand, some things require no translation. Like that nasty little Donald-like laugh--"Ah ha ha, hah"----Stevie cuts loose at the end. It perfectly prefigures Johnny Rotten at the beginning of "Anarchy in the U.K."Stevie does want some things to be understood, so he slows down just enough to let his motto slide home: "She says no one is better than I / And I know, I'm just an average guy." Like hell.
http://youtu.be/GPYaunB79dA
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 00:52 (ten years ago) link
That actually is good. Especially like the synching of the music and the exploding phone booth.
Also: lol "Production Manager David Fudge"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 September 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
hahahaha amazing essay
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 September 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
i think for like the first two years 30% of the videos they'd show on vh1 were like stock footage montage videos for old ccr and young rascals and turtles hits
Don't forget the "new videos" for old songs w/actors, models, and a vague storyline. Behold this Mad Max meets Brazil meets Michelob ad clip for "Wishing Well" by Free (which--and scott will back me up on this--owns over any track in this threads official listening rotation):
http://youtu.be/eKy_puDDnRk
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 September 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
YES!
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ozeagle/Solo%20Years/RockHard.jpg
Frey: "Hard Rock in the 70s, Rock Hard in the 80s"
― col, Friday, 6 September 2013 01:11 (ten years ago) link
wow that Free song doesn't sound like it's from 1972....sounds kinda 80s, esp. the riff with the insistent keyboard....
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 September 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link
Nothing about that Pepsi ad seemed familiar, but as soon as that DJ dropped that can of Pepsi onto the turntable, it all came back with a vengeance.
Also remember Donald Duck videos to "Do You Love Me" and "Expressway to Your Heart". Good times, thanks for the memories, Glenn, Don and Donald.
― pplains, Friday, 6 September 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link
crazy to think that some weird 'new video' for an old free track (not even an ACTIVE band at the time! it's not like aerosmith making a 'sweet emotion' vid to promote a box set and serve as a stopgap promotion of the brand) had a much larger budget than say the video for 'blurred lines'. sheena easton looking babe is kinda smoking.
― balls, Friday, 6 September 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link
gotta get me a dump truck woman
yeah that free thing is nuts. were they really that hard up for videos?
― scott seward, Friday, 6 September 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link
It might have been a cash-in on The Firm gravytrain...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 September 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
"Dad, tell us about the 80s!"
"Glenn Frey shilled for Pepsi, and there was a Firm gravytrain."
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 6 September 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
"Were there Osmonds?"
"Some."
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 6 September 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
"Doolin-Dalton (Instrumental)"
http://nicatic.com/sitebuilder/images/DoolinDalton8-393x484.jpg
http://youtu.be/3BQkz0qxo1k
― scott seward, Friday, 6 September 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
This is great, I like the way the bassline shifts around. Nice use of stereo too, keeping the backing on the two channels entirely separate. Otherwise it might be entirely standard for banjo music for all I know - the only other track I know is Foggy Mountain Breakdown and it's quite like this - but it's fast, moves around a lot, tonally, and I like it. So much more alive than yesterday's rubbish.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 6 September 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
Whatever happened to the reprise? you can still find 'em on hip-hop records, but they ain't around like they used to be.
― pplains, Friday, 6 September 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
nice little track
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 6 September 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
by my calculations 48 seconds of an eagles concert is worth about a buck fifty.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 6 September 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
Nice. Wish there was a little more, but as we will see tomorrow, they had to get back to rocking.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 6 September 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
"Outlaw Man"
http://s.ecrater.com/stores/68455/48a47f1aacd5c_68455b.jpg
http://youtu.be/_y3tFxtze98
― scott seward, Saturday, 7 September 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
i like the david blue original of this a lot more. and i really like the david blue album that its on.
http://youtu.be/yI8lfbx2FKc
http://30daysout.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/51gkalrdewl_ss500_.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 7 September 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
Amazing, this is pure Neil Young to me, even more than the other Neil Young one. It's neater and slicker but there's much less character in the vocals. Again the guitars sound great, but I'd rather be hearing Neil play. And a Neil lyric too, not this outlaw theme.
Can you key me in on the outlaw thing actually? I mean we like a bad boy too, but a big part of it is that they supposedly only hurt their own. Not the case for the guys I've been reading about thanks to this album.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 7 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
Very weird they chose this one as a single over "Desperado," esp. as "Tequila Sunrise" had pretty much stiffed. & hearing this in sequence, you're really starting to reach the limits of the concept: okay, guys, you're outlaws, jesus, enough.
doesn't hold up well when A/B to the original: the way Frey spits out "man" in the chorus doesn't work for me. Some odd Glyn Johns choices, too: why are the cymbals mixed so loud? first E's track in a while I recall have so much keyboard on.
― col, Saturday, 7 September 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
last line in English: first Eagles track in a while to have so much keyboard on it, if i recall
― col, Saturday, 7 September 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
to be fair, i had a REALLY hard time finding a decent youtube audio track. there were a bunch and almost all of them seemed to come from the same bad digital source. very hissy and tinny. so, you'd have to check a better quality rip or the cd or vinyl for what it actually sounds like.
― scott seward, Saturday, 7 September 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
Eagles are rock and roll posers. Yeah I said it. This is the real thing. This is the original artist. Yeah I said it. Pay your hundred dollar plus tickets so you can brag about seeing the Eagales
― pplains, Saturday, 7 September 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Some odd Glyn Johns choices, too: why are the cymbals mixed so loud?
Yeah, that's definitely not Glyn's style at all. Might've been Henley's choice, given that the main reason for splitting from Glyn was so Henley could have more control over the drum mix.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 7 September 2013 17:48 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey is in the backup vocal mix on the David Blue version too (i think - he's credited with backup vocals on the album, but it's not broken down song by song). Produced by Graham Nash btw.
I was away for the last two days; "Doolin-Dalton Instrumental" - they really should've put a banjo reprise on all their albums, like a 48-second frenzied banjo version of Hotel California. "Certain Kind of Fool" - the Eagles should have replaced Meisner with a dog, too.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Saturday, 7 September 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
Since we started this record I have constantly had a weird eagles-petty conflation going through my head
They were doolinDoolin daltonDown in DixieOn a Sunday mornin'
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 7 September 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
I think that's just Nash doing the harmonies on the David Blue version.
Anyway the Eagles: I see they changed the lyrics to make it more cowboy (dropping "'56 Chevrolet" for "Santa Fe") and the Johns production is certainly more full-bodied. Frey gives a fine 'in character' vocal. Blue is more casual, with a stoner cool fitting the timeline of his lyrics, whereas Frey comes off like a gunfighter living off more a perceived reputation than any real accomplishments.
My parents have this weird Warner Bros. 2 lp set called Heavy Metal from '74. Supposedly a review of their hard rock/metal roster of the time (which is served by including "Iron Man", "Smoke On The Water" and the censored "Kick Out The Jams"), it also features less rockin' stuff from rockin' bands ("D'yer Maker", "Cindy Incidentally") and popular hits of the day ("Ride Captain Ride", "Right Place, Wrong Time") and what would become rarities (a Bolin-era James Gang track, the extended 'Stephen Stills Sex Sounds' version of "Bluebird"). The Eagles are represented by "Outlaw Man", which is sandwiched between "Domino" and "Starship Trooper".
Here's the discogs page for that album.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
Fun Fact: "Outlaw Man" is the only single from the band's heyday that never made it to any of their comps, which means David Blue (or whomever it is that controls his publishing) has never benefited from as much royalty-wise as he could have.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
david blue died pretty young.
― scott seward, Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
and to tie everything here together neatly, one of the last things he did before he died was appear in human highway.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/be/Humanhighwaystill06.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 7 September 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
Human Freyway
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 September 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
"Saturday Night"
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/DHenleyJennyHalsallMeisnerLindaPenneyLondon.jpg
http://youtu.be/PC2YG2WSrtE
― scott seward, Sunday, 8 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
Where is everybody?
This one is pleasant, with lovely instrumentation. I guess they didn't know The Springfield tackled the same query (albeit in unreleased fashion) some time before: http://youtu.be/IDCnGZMhpow
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 September 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, was listening to this over and over earlier but couldn't think of anything to say. It's nice, but really boring. In fact that's my takeaway from the thread - a lot of the time, The Eagles are really boring. It's a deep kind of boredom too - they can bore you over the course of a few seconds, just by repeating a phrase where once would've been enough. The intro to Certain Kind Of Fool is a top example.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
Actually I'm being a bit unfair to this, it's very pleasant. The mandolin is nice. They could've gone so many more interesting places with it, but it's a decent job.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
There's a couple of nice unexpected chords in the coda too.
One last thing on Outlaw Man - the bass gets good towards the end when it gets high. I didn't pick up on it until I had the headphones on today.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
its pretty. this last song. but again listen to it 2 or 3 times and then try and remember what it sounds like in an hour. you will have trouble remembering.
― scott seward, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
So true. I was wondering if that explained the success of the Greatest Hits - that generally these albums would be poor investments, but they have a *just* high enough strike rate to make a compilation worthwhile before the band is completely spent. So come 1975 or whenever, they're good enough to put out a killer ten-tracker, seasoned enough pros to cash in properly, yet average enough to not attract diehards and hence were able to keep their bad bits unknown and effectively be launching as a new band. I can't think of anyone else who quite meets all these tests.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
It's nice. Great to listen to on Sunday. Proof that you have to give them their due for harmonies. It almost sounds like a toy box at the end. Would put on a mix tape for someone I didn't really know.
― pplains, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
That maybe doesn't quite work; I see they were on a golden run right through late 74/75, with the Greatest Hits in 76. Which I guess may mean they were touring their asses off through 75, building momentum, and were then in the happy position of dropping a part-familiar-part-obscurish solid gold banker to consolidate.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
So come 1975 or whenever,, they're good enough to put out a killer ten-tracker, seasoned enough pros to cash in properly, yet average enough to not attract diehards and hence were able to keep their bad bits unknown and effectively be launching as a new band. I can't think of anyone else who quite meets all these tests.
plus, they immediately follow up with their career album. how many bands do that?
― fact checking cuz, Sunday, 8 September 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Elton John, sort of. He followed up his first hits set w/Captain Fantastic..., which was like the first album to ship Platinum.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 September 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
"Bitter Creek"
http://www.bernieleadononline.com/images/BLeadonBorderOuttake.jpg
http://youtu.be/cNzg7uSBkCQ
― scott seward, Monday, 9 September 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
i dig it. i dig the vibe. now THIS is desert-swept chillwave. the percussion sounds nice. backing vocals suitably chilly. i don't even mind that its basically 5 minutes of meandering. i mean, its about a creek. creeks meander.
― scott seward, Monday, 9 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
It sounds faintly like Gerry Rafferty. It's not offensive but no standout: the George Harrison track.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 9 September 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
Not crazy about this one, but "Saturday Night" is lovely; the first new-to-me Eagles track I've really liked so far.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Monday, 9 September 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
this experience was leaving me bored and irritated, so i gave up but then today i decided to give it a try.
i guess this song is ok? does he say "you know there ain't no cost of wheat?" the lyrics to this song are p weak (like every eagles song i've ever heard) but the music/his voice/the style of singing are pleasant enough. that's the most positive thing i can think of to say. it kinda reminds me of firefall and i like them.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 9 September 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
the jam at the end was pretty good too
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 9 September 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
I liked the jam, too.
― carl agatha, Monday, 9 September 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
i used to think it was dumb when people said that punk rock saved us from prog rock and arena rock or whatever but i'm starting to think it makes sense that punk was trying to save us from eagles.
― scott seward, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
"cause to weep"
― zvookster, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
I think it was at this point in the album that my wife came in the room, paused to listen for a moment, and told me I might as well be listening to Bread.
But I like this one.
― Brad C., Monday, 9 September 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
"So come 1975 or whenever,, they're good enough to put out a killer ten-tracker, seasoned enough pros to cash in properly, yet average enough to not attract diehards and hence were able to keep their bad bits unknown and effectively be launching as a new band. I can't think of anyone else who quite meets all these tests."
this is a good point--though it's not quite the same parallel, the Bee Gees and Fleetwood Mac also rebooted themselves in '75 as well.
missed "Saturday Night." have little to say about it but that it's the only full band composition?, suggesting maybe it was cobbled together from a couple of half-finished pieces the band. And did they do the Band-esque mic-passing from Henley to Meisner again?
"bitter creek": as odes to peyote go, this works. But Leadon's aesthetic of laziness and spaced-out meandering can only go so far before it starts feeling oppressive in its laid-back way.
― col, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
hahaha I would rather listen to Bread than more than half of the Eagles songs we've heard so far in this thread, but I'm a total sucker for 70s AM soft rock.
― carl agatha, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
The last two songs've been keepers IMO.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 9 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Springs_Massacre
idk if there's any real connection -- probably they just liked the sound of the placename -- but an interesting article nonetheless
― zvookster, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
i love Bread. Guitar Man and Manna might be my favorite albums. they were such a great studio band. and much more varied than people might think if all they know is the hits. and most people probably only know the hits. all kinds of goodness on Bread albums.
― scott seward, Monday, 9 September 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
(I noted the same about Bread upthread....)
Desperado is the only Eagles album I own on vinyl (or on any physical or digital format), and I bought it largely for "Bitter Creek and its gorgeous CSN&Y-esque harmonies toward the end at 2:06-2:23 and again from 3:15 to the end of the song. I didn't until last week know this song was part of the album's "concept", but it works on it's own too. Heard it on an AAA station mid-'80s and was surprised to learn this was an Eagles song. One of their best.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Monday, 9 September 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
So Firefall comes along, takes one look at the Eagles catalogue and says, "'Bitter Creek', that's what we should base our entire sound on."
Nice rattlesnake sound with the tambourine, though.
― pplains, Monday, 9 September 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
I love this. Like the percussion sounds and the tea-chest bass - it's like some kids have rigged up a skiffle band, only with really expensive guitars and mics, plus expert harmonising. its gorgeous CSN&Y-esque harmonies toward the end at 2:06-2:23 and again from 3:15 to the end of the song otm, and I dig the guitarwork throughout.
The slow pace really works here, giving it an air of menace, heat and laziness as appropriate. But importantly balanced out by drop-ins and unexpected twists, rhythms and playing. It keeps it interesting, unlike so much of the crap we've been sorting through to get here. The best yet.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 9 September 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
this reminds me of pink floyd a bit in the carefully mic-ed fake blues, melody lines & high school poetry
― zvookster, Monday, 9 September 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
playing catch-up
so far digging "Outlaw Man"....good chorus...really good guitar solo too...really nice basslines in the sped-up part...
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 9 September 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
"Bitter Creek"'s a good 'un. CSNY-esque with the emphasis on the 'Y'. Kinda wish the "jam part" was...jammier(?).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 September 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
Bread >>> Eagles
― |citation needed| (will), Monday, 9 September 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
So glad I'm not alone re Bread.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link
the people who know KNOW. you know?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link
Bread is Good.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link
Can I join the Bread love in?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 10:34 (ten years ago) link
"Doolin-Dalton/Desperado(Reprise)"
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/music/2008/galleries/eagles-long-run-photos-from-the-seventies-and-beyond/the-eagles-gallery-1973-73662/500x595/20777681-20777683-large.jpg
http://youtu.be/k8TigipC8dY
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 12:47 (ten years ago) link
Bernie about to hurl in that photo
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
outlaw showdown, check; queens of diamonds and hearts, check; twisted fate turning the tables, check; stolen dreams, paid in regret, check; hard when you're all alone in the center ring, check; stardust, check
don't understand why people bust on the Eagles' lyrics, they've got everything in there
― Brad C., Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
the last few songs have been good! this is a halfway decent record i guess.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
I dunno. My load wasn't as loosened with this one.
I'm a sucker for a reprise. More rock albums should have overtures too.
― pplains, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
The harmonies on this thing remind me of Big Star.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
i wish the reprise would make a comeback. it makes albums so album-y. one of the reasons i dig the first bear in heaven record from '09 is that is snuck in a reprise.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
but do you want a "Hotel California" reprise
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
i don't know! i might!
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
More than a Wasted Years reprise! [[SPOILER]]
What do you call a "sneak preview" on an album, like "Dreams Reoccurring" occurring before "Reoccurring Dreams" on Zen Arcade?
― pplains, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
Catching up..."Bitter Creek" is decent, but it just kinda sits there. If it was played during a particularly reflective/moody scene in Firefly, I'd dig it in that context.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
i wish the reprise would make a comeback.
awesome sentence.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
hahaha. "oh when will I hear a reprise again?"
― pplains, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
Wow, this reprise is the epitome of album filler. Pretty sure the reason the cymbals are so high in the mix is because Johns fell asleep at the board.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
This just drives home how hard Desperado is trying to be a concept album.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
if a Hotel California reprise was just Felder/Walsh guitar duelling then YES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
Aw, this is good! They picked the right songs, gave them nice arrangements, had dilly banjos and falsetti drop by like wasted friends - this is a proper reprise, kudos.
This album hits more than misses, I think - the closing run is pretty excellent, and before that the non-hits are mostly boring rather than offensive. You can see them getting there - if there's any boilerplate filler on the next one I'll be disappointed in them.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
i got sidetracked & didn't comment on as many songs for this album but overall i really do enjoy this album, ismael otm that there's no real stinkers
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link
don't forget 'faithless women'
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
But no 'CHUG'!
Like this. Prefer the "Desperado" reprise to the original. Seems like it wouldn't hurt a Classic Rock station to slip this in every once in awhile.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
faithless women pretty much essential to the whole outlaw = rocker enterprise
― Brad C., Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
vibey outtro of "bitter creek" probably my fav eagle moment yet
this reprise blows ass
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
seems as if we are bitterly divided on the reprise...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
BITTERLY i said! yeah i know nobody wants to fight about eagles. anyway, as a reward for getting through this album you get to hear this awesome epic earth opera track. just played this album today and i think it holds up. you got the west coast/dead moments. the jazzrock psych stuff. the olde-tyme moments courtesy of david grisman. you get a little bit of everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC-nj68X19c
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
plus, billy mundi on drums. tarfumes should check him out. he's kind of the reason to buy Rhinoceros records if you ask me. i'm not a huge Mothers fan, but he could really shake a stick.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
BITTERLY i said!
Somebody's gonna hurt someone before this thread is through.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
heartache tonight y/n
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
Apparently Earth Opera were big Soft Machine fans. Digging this, though.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
peter rowan went on to bluegrass fame of course. after earth opera he started seatrain and i enjoy their two albums. he's on the old and in the way album too with grisman/garcia. never really got into the rowans albums though.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
tarfumes i wish i had known you were playing on friday sooner. i don't know if i can make it. maybe rob is going? liz said she wants to see her pal tatsuya so maybe they are going...if so i could maybe hitch a ride with them.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
for some reason liz really doesn't like going to see things at the f*y*h*e*.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
It's a weird space...I kind of liked the old one, which had a nice, homey, church-basement feel.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
wow this Earth Opera is fucking great skot
reminds me of what music can be! so much more than the eagles
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 10 September 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
Read a book recently abou Detroit rock. Oral history. Direct quote from iggy pop is that Glenn Frey was almost in the stooges. Good times.
Yes I'm drunk. But the above is accurate
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
I think I've seen that book! Skimmed it for a minute, read an anecdote about Lou Reed taking acid in Detroit, requiring hospitalization and Thorazine.
Bill's drunk, I'm high
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:06 (ten years ago) link
...and Glenn Frey is swimming in a sea of money, Scrooge McDuck-style.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:09 (ten years ago) link
Man, who was just talking about that the other day how Scrooge McDuck never broke his neck when he dived into those gold coins?
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link
Huell?
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 05:30 (ten years ago) link
"Already Gone"
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b141/glennfreyonline/calendar/alreadygone.jpg
http://youtu.be/W8o_C50JFkc
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
a later live rendition if you want to see some live footage:
http://youtu.be/iYCPccFQHWA
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
brb have to eat my lunch all by myself
Being in a band that covers this song and can't sing harmonies well is like being skinned alive, is all I have to say to this.
― Marlo Poco (Phil D.), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link
well, all right! Enough cowboy crap---we need another hit. And welcome Don Felder, the Han Solo of the band.
This is pretty much the Glenn Freyest of Glenn Frey Eagles tracks (so it's odd that he didn't write it): the condescending "just remember this my girl," the whiny petulance of the verses; it's pre-emptive breakup song, the guy skipping town and trying to guilt his ex about it.
early memory: driving w/my dad, "already gone" comes on. After the "eat yr lunch by yourself line" he laughed. I looked at him. "It's a stupid song," he said.
― col, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link
Welcome to the Eagles, Fingers! We needed you!
This song kicks ass and finally turns Freyness to useful purpose.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link
A hidden message carved into the run out groove of vinyl LPs reads: "He who hesitates is lunch".
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
I dig this, and it's probably my favorite rocker of theirs. But at the same time, it perfectly encapsulates everything I hate about them (col OTM).
For me it always evoked a scene of a suburban high school cafeteria circa 1975-76. There's a mousy/shy/nerdy kid sitting alone, and some ringer-shirted feather-haired popular neo-jock asshole walks by with his equally assholish neo-jock friends singing "and you'll have to eat your lunch all by yourself! HAHAHAHAHA!" to that kid. I always imagine that asshole looking exactly like Frey looks in the photo at the top of this thread.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
This is so good. The verses are rote but the choruses, oh my. So alive, the harmonies but especially that big fat juicy lead guitar. It sounds like a thin arrangement - probably isn't, but that big lead sounds like it's squeezed everything else out. Would love to hear a version with just isolated lead and harmonies.
The intro should just start with the lead, and the key change ... uh, I guess they were always going to do it but not really needed thanks.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
"Already Gone" is like some parallel universe version of "Take It Easy." The song also reminds me oddly of the Dead at twice the speed. Did Alabama ever cover "Already Gone?"
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
Poor Glenn is the last to know. His friends had to tell him she was putting him on the shelf, but he's trying to save face: you can't break up with me, I'm already gone! His buddies' victorious woo-wooing makes his salvage attempt even funnier.
This is a great song. The Eagles' characteristic shallowness, creepiness, and self-inflation perfectly match the resentful lyrics and pumped-up sound.
Tarfumes otm about the mise-en-scène for "you'll have to eat your lunch all by yourself," but I see Frey (looking exactly as described) as the nerd delivering this line to a popular girl who has no idea what he's talking about.
― Brad C., Wednesday, 11 September 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
their horses have turned into muscle cars. and they sound much more comfortable inside a gas guzzler.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
kinda like what happened to a lot of baby boomers at the time. fuck this hippie shit i wanna get paid. though there is still some hippie shit on this album.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
It is, after all, their track-by-track response to On the Corner.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
White Satin
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
I love this song, definitely gets cranked up whenever it comes on the radio in the car.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
mix this up in my head with "Sister Golden Hair" in the chorus when instead of repeating "I'm already gone" it goes into "and I just can't make it" and that sweet riff
good tune in either case, top shelf Eagles
― Euler, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
It is, after all, their track-by-track response to On the Corner
Tell me you're not kidding
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
This song manages to rock despite Frey having one of the world's most boring voices.
― the vineyards where the grapes of corporate rock are stored (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
yeah Bill Magill otm, great singalong song
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
"Say Don, are you excited to be working with Glenn Frey?"
http://www.qkly.com/images/don_felder.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
Can we pls start referring to GF by his official eagles nickname 'roach'?
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
i was gonna try to front and say this is already a poorer knockoff of take it easy
but the chorus is damn good, and the dual guitar solo is really good
it keeps coming back a lot for me on this thread but i've never encountered a band where there aren't really that many DEEP CUTS...it's like there's...the hits....
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
is this the first felder album?
cuz the guitar interplay is really good, nice addition
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
First felder album and first one produced by szymzyk.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
i have listened to this 3 times already, dare I say it, it is kind of a jam
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
It was weird thinking of the Eagles as a four-piece anyway.
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
we should do an eagles-inspired fb macro
YOU CAN LOOK UP AT THE STARSAND STILL NOT SEE THE LIGHT
- bob marley
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
much as I enjoy that second album, I am growing to like the bitchin guitar Eagles era more and more
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
ROBB21265 3 months ago
I DONT GIVE A SHIT BOUT YER COMMENTS, THIS IS THE MOST KICK ASS SONG BY THE EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
robb is feelin it
"first one produced by szymzyk."
if you say his name backwards, glenn frey comes to your house and chugs all night.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
This is the first album by the Eagles to be released in Quadraphonic surround sound. It was released on Quadraphonic 8-track tape and CD-4 LP.
I am inordinately curious as to how this sounds. It might feel like eating lunch by oneself while assorted Eagles are harmonizing all around you.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
It is so fun the harmonize with the chorus of this song, and also sing the WOO HOO HOOs. It is truly a vict'ry song.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
the woo hoo hoo's are great, otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
Quadraphonic 8-track tape
never forget
― Brad C., Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
Perfect soundtrack to a key party.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
*shudder*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
i was picturing myself driving a trans-am, wind blowing through my hair...I had not planned on driving to a key party and now my fantasy is a nightmare THANKS A LOT TARFUMES
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
When you walk into a party and see Glenn Frey at the door with a fishbowl, RUN.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
i was picturing myself driving a trans-am, wind blowing through my hair...
YES and throwing my dumb ex's terrible 8-tracks out the window after leaving his petulant, cheating ass stranded on the corner in Winslow, Arizona.
Glenn Frey hosting a key party is an image I may never quite recover from.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
if don felder greets you at the door, you'll prob get laid but you might have to listen to a lot of whining about frey
if don henley greets you at the door, your body will be found in the basement many months later
if randy meisner greets you at the door, you'll have a nice lunch of soup and sandwiches
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
if Azoff greets you at the door, you've been killed on the drive over and are actually entering hell
― col, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
haha otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
if joe walsh greets you at the door this could be heaven or this could be hell
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
If Bernie Leadon greet you at the door, you're gonna spend the whole night watching this dvd box set.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, September 11, 2013 1:31 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Total jam. Having been "put on the shelf" a few times myself, i gotta admit the narrator in this song has a pretty decent attitude about how to get over a breakup.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, September 11, 2013 2:15 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It would be hard to leave if you can't find the door.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
I always associate "Already Gone" with the section in the Dazed & Confused companion book covering Shavonne. There's a paragraph detailing her first dance with boyfriend Don at a Halloween party in '74--she was dressed as Faye Dunaway's Bonnie Parker, he as Joe Namath, and the band was starting up "Already Gone". A great, vivid image, easily up there with anything in the actual movie.
That aside, um, this is one of those songs that every once in a while I'll go crazy for if I hear it on the radio in the right frame of mind, but most of the time I'm kinda 'meh'. But if anything, it was the D&C thing that brought me around at all on the song. It is a nice sing-along.
Ever wondered how this song would sound like coming from a woman? Wilson Phillips is here to help!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
Dazed & Confused companion book
^^wait...what??
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
Wow, the Wilson Phillips version is pretty great. I'll take their singing/harmonies over the Eagles' any day.
― Shart Week (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
xposthttp://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51gwSDUvz1L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg
The booklet for the Criterion version has excerpts.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
― carl agatha, Wednesday, September 11, 2013 12:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
don henley key party is slightly worse imo but sadly i am not as deeply repulsed by the whole idea as i should bethis song is ok, don't hate it -- wilson phillips version sounds like me and carl at karaoke
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
This one's also got that famous last chorus truck driver gear change. Whereas its usual for a key change of a semitone or a tone, this one leaps by something like a fourth.
http://www.gearchange.org/descriptions/The%20Eagles%20-%20Already%20Gone.html
― Bloody Snail, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
i can't believe that's a website!! kudos!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha
Wolff, Jonathan Seinfeld Theme
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
I know that website's been referenced here before, but if you try searching for "trucker" and "Gear", all you get is references to a certain other old thread.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
fuck washing a trucker
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
I was always amused at how Queen would make such a big deal about putting "no computers/synthesizers used" on their albums and then open up The Game with the most over the top Oberheim synth ever on "Play The Game." Of course Frey sings this, he's annoyed at not rocking out. Cal Jam live clip is great.
Pleased that gearchange.org exists!
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
Aside: the past two times I've gone to the grocery store, I've heard the Eagles on the background music ("Take It Easy" and "Heartache Tonight")
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
that key change is indeed a fourth -- from G to C -- which isn't all that weird really. the slightly weird, and kinda cool, thing is that they modulate a fourth while sitting on the fourth of the original key, which basically means they modulate by not changing the chord at all. the IV of the original key becomes the I of the new key. that's a common old-school classical technique, as opposed to the abrupt let's-just-switch-keys-here-for-the-hell-of-it technique that's more common in the truckdriving gear-changing school of pop.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
I was always amused at how Queen would make such a big deal about putting "no computers/synthesizers used" on their albums
I think that was because their vocal pitch accuracy was thought by some to be the work of synthesizers. It was more to set the record straight rather than to take a stance against synths.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
So when they finally used an Oberheim on "The Game", they had to formally announce it in the liners
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
ALREADY GONEGLENN: I got a tape of the song from Jack Tempchin in my mailbox at 1740 La Fontaine Ct., the house in Coldwater Canyon where I lived for 16 years. James Cagney’s brother, Ed, had once owned the house, and it still holds a lot of memories for me. James Cagney, in his later years, sometimes used the house as a hideaway and went there to play the piano and relax. In earlier years, the Cagneys held great parties in that bungalow. A lot of music happened there.“Already Gone,” though, arrived in the mail. Jack was a songwriter we liked who was from San Diego, and he’d already written “Peaceful Easy Feeling.” “Already Gone” was one of the first songs we’d later do when we switched producers and started recording in Los Angeles. I had a very strained relationship with Glyn Johns. I think he got along better with all the other guys in the band. He was so intimidating, I was always afraid to be forthright and tell him what I thought. He was a taskmaster, and that was probably good for a young band, but the great thing for me about this song and record is that I left England behind and had a much more positive energy in the recording studio. The “all right, nighty-night” at the end of the song was sort of typical of the spontaneous feeling we wanted on our records. It was at this time that we changed producers and started working with Bill Szymczyk. I was much more comfortable in the studio with Bill, and he was more than willing to let everyone stretch a bit. “Already Gone” — that’s me being happier; that’s me being free.
“Already Gone,” though, arrived in the mail. Jack was a songwriter we liked who was from San Diego, and he’d already written “Peaceful Easy Feeling.” “Already Gone” was one of the first songs we’d later do when we switched producers and started recording in Los Angeles. I had a very strained relationship with Glyn Johns. I think he got along better with all the other guys in the band. He was so intimidating, I was always afraid to be forthright and tell him what I thought. He was a taskmaster, and that was probably good for a young band, but the great thing for me about this song and record is that I left England behind and had a much more positive energy in the recording studio. The “all right, nighty-night” at the end of the song was sort of typical of the spontaneous feeling we wanted on our records. It was at this time that we changed producers and started working with Bill Szymczyk. I was much more comfortable in the studio with Bill, and he was more than willing to let everyone stretch a bit. “Already Gone” — that’s me being happier; that’s me being free.
From the Crowe Very Best of... interview. I don't think I ever noticed that "all right..." bit 'til it was pointed out here.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:26 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/kxsr4PV.png
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
If that swimming pool could talk...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
Casa de Chug
― col, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
iirc, there's a story in To The Limit about Cagney himself showed Frey around the house when he was preparing to buy it.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
Just one Yankee Doolin Dalton chugging with another.
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
"so the master bath's over here...now what combo are you with again, kid? the Beach Boys?"
― col, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
"Hey Frey, wanna grapefruit?"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
The “all right, nighty-night” at the end of the song was sort of typical of the spontaneous feeling we wanted on our records.
Haha, that's the dopiest fuckin' part of the song.
Endearingly so, though.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 23:04 (ten years ago) link
"All right, Chug All Night" almost scans.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 11 September 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
this is the album that Glyn Johns produced after Desperado. I really like it. I'm a fan of those dudes. I was a fan of Mcguinness Flint.
http://eil.com/images/main/Gallagher+%26+Lyle+-+The+Last+Cowboy+-+LP+RECORD-296790.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Didn't know they had MS Paint back in those days.
― pplains, Wednesday, 11 September 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/31/9f/8a/319f8af6f670b72460bd19e953ab4a96.jpg
― balls, Thursday, 12 September 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link
"You Never Cry Like A Lover"
http://www.theuncool.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/rs196.jpg
http://youtu.be/OXhc4JqQN8U
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 September 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
lead guitar (uncredited) by Bernie Leadon
None more yacht. Roach looking überrelaxed there.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 12 September 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
this song might...grow on you. if you play it more than once.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 September 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
Randy a surefire winner of the "dress like Gram Parsons" contest. my god, Frey is at his most dirtbaggiest in that shot.
― col, Thursday, 12 September 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link
Hack off the drawn-out ending, add an unexpected upward modulation in the bridge, and this would be a Badfinger song. And that's never a bad thing.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 September 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
speaking of Parsons, "Smile Like a Lover" has a bit of GP in the verses, no? Godawful lyric: smug and stupid in equal measures. Henley's by far their best singer, but even he's floundering at times here.
― col, Thursday, 12 September 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
That's.. an interesting graphic design for Rolling Stone.
― pplains, Thursday, 12 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/6HmKXrR.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 12 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
Title lyric WTF? I'm leaving because I can't make you cryenough?
Like the "i was hoping you were the one" midsection though, and the various guitar licks throughout.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
I'm playing this very quietly because I don't want my co-workers to make fun of me ... it sounds pretty good. I'm sure it's enhanced by my inability to make out the lyrics, though there's clearly something disturbing going on there. Points off for the lame ending.
― Brad C., Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
It's an unusual soundscape for these guys - I'm picking up Zeppelin at their most pop/rock, but mostly Elton in its showiness, especially the intro. Even the close harmonies aren't quite as aquiline as usual. There's probably someone else it sounds exactly like, but it's not my usual territory.
The solo is completely marvellous, again. The whole middle section is pretty great actually.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
Crosby at 1:55 for the win:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GANjDKnIv3M
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
i like how he says boring after the yawn in case we didn't get it, thanks dave.
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Harsh coming from Crosby. I think I'm likely to ever want to hear CSN less than even the Eagles. Because they're boring. Yawn. That means I was bored.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 September 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link
i like csn but i don't own any of their records and the only related stuff i own is the crosby hippie-fest album and the two nash solo albums. the 2 nash solo albums are two of my favorite records of the 70's. i mean i can always play a csn album in my store if i need to hear one. i was playing simon & garfunkel yesterday. beautiful early stereo pressings. sounded amazing. don't need to own them though. the normal stuff i can hear anytime i leave in the store. i do think the crosby album is overrated by hepcats. or whoever revived its rep. mojo magazine? who can remember? i'd much rather listen to early 70's airplane and affiliated records these days. they need some reviving. they did so much great stuff before they built that city. where is the love for grace's Manhole album? or Sunfighter! man, there's a record.
― scott seward, Thursday, 12 September 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
i only have deja vu but I love listening to that when I'm in the right mood
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
I like "Just a Song Before I Go" because it's 1:56 long.
― pplains, Thursday, 12 September 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
Tarfumes otm re:Badfinger resemblance. The coda has got to go. I imagine they knew that too, but put it on as some sort of 'spontaneous' left turn instead of working it up as it's own song (the thing is catchy). Nice solo.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 September 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
the 2 nash solo albums are two of my favorite records of the 70's.
Mojo, Uncut & the like should be all over the 2nd Nash album (Wild Tales), as it's basically Nash backed by the Time Fades Away band (minus Neil & Jack).
i'd much rather listen to early 70's airplane and affiliated records these days. they need some reviving. they did so much great stuff before they built that city. where is the love for grace's Manhole album? or Sunfighter! man, there's a record.
Everybody knows Baron Von Tollbooth... is Where It's At!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 September 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
listening to all this eagles is making me real fuckin' salty about all this jive bellbottom shit
hate this song
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 12 September 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 September 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
I think On The Border is their best LP - most of the tunes are pretty solid, as long as you can handle the cheese factor (esp James Dean), it's enjoyable.
― funk79, Friday, 13 September 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link
I'm not sure about it being their best but I definitely dig it, if I hold my breath through the corny parts
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 September 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
Getting a strong George Harrison vibe off the lead-that-isn't-the-solo - sound like they were mining The End for that one, especially set against the piano. The second half is what makes the song though - the section from 1:51 is magnificent.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 September 2013 07:27 (ten years ago) link
"Midnight Flyer"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eagles1974tarmac.jpg
http://youtu.be/Yt-ruDNndvI
― scott seward, Friday, 13 September 2013 11:19 (ten years ago) link
i don't have time to talk now, but i just wanted to mention that this song was written by Paul Kraft and here is the track-listing to Paul's 1986 album Warnings!:
A1 Linda Lovelace (Come Sit On My Face) A2 I've Got You On My Conscience (But At Least You're Off My Back) A3 She's My Bedroom Woman (I'm Her Livin' Room Man) A4 Two Wild And Crazy GuysVocals – Lewis AndersonA5 V.D. Ain't Nothin' To Clap About B1 It's Me Again, MargaretProducer – Ray BakerB2 Positively Bob Dylan Revisited B3 Dropkick Me, Jesus B4 My Eight-Legged Friends B5 You've Already Got A Pussy (Why Try To Make One Out Of Me)
― scott seward, Friday, 13 September 2013 11:22 (ten years ago) link
What a strange track. A hokey tune about train travel that must already have been antiquated in 1974. Do I like it? Yes, I think I do. The train-mimicking harmonies are really nice - the oooo...oo-oo-oo-oo at 1:44 is hilarious - and the second voice that appears in the left channel is a pleasing curio.
The coda is terrific though it doesn't much fit on the end of such a ditty, even if the banjo provides unity. The guitars sound fantastic again. They've had that nailed down from the very start, beautiful playing and recording.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 September 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
another unnecessarily long coda, making this almost-novelty song outstay its welcome as an album track
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Friday, 13 September 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link
This thread has alot of posts
― danbunny, Friday, 13 September 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
A hokey tune about train travel that must already have been antiquated in 1974.
Eagles must've been the steampunks of their day.
― pplains, Friday, 13 September 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Frey doesn't really have enough (or any) ideas to sustain a long coda slide solo. Otherwise, this would be a reasonably charming song.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 13 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
"another unnecessarily long coda"
In this case, no way. I love the squishy guitar and banjo breakdown on this one.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 September 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
this song is pretty lame
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 September 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
I like that it starts out like 'Eastbound and Down' but it kinda goes downhill for me from there
I do like the train wooohoooos
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 September 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
idk man this one's a winner to me
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 September 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
this one is ok
i'm a sucker for that kinda fast banjo thing
i dunno, not memorable though
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 September 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
"This thread has alot of posts"
get back to work, hippie.
― scott seward, Friday, 13 September 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Y7eaN__xLRk/RqOaeFsNN4I/AAAAAAAACLo/mS93qDBkGcY/s400/don3.jpg
"Get back to work, hippie!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 September 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
"Midnight Flyer" was a pleasant surprise on The Very Best of. Don't think it outlasts it's welcome. Looking back now, kind of surprised it's almost 4 minutes. Very breezy. Are we sure that's Frey on slide? IIRC, Felder's slide ability was a big part of him getting hired--Henley called him "the reincarnation of Duane Allman" or some such coke-ism.
From Crowe's liners:
MIDNIGHT FLYERDON: I was happy to do something in that vein, because I was a big bluegrass fan. The Dillards, in particular, had an enormous impact on me. Along with Doug Dillard and Herb Pedersen, Bernie Leadon was one of the top banjo players in the country, so I was proud to do a bluegrass tune — thought it lent a certain amount of authenticity and credibility to our band. It showed versatility.Even now the Eagles are thought of as a country-rock band. The music industry and the media saddled us with that label at the very beginning, and, no matter how diverse our musical palate, it has been impossible to shake that stereotype. At the end of the day, we’re an American band. We’re a musical mutt with influences from every genre of American popular music. It’s all in there, and it’s fairly obvious.
Even now the Eagles are thought of as a country-rock band. The music industry and the media saddled us with that label at the very beginning, and, no matter how diverse our musical palate, it has been impossible to shake that stereotype. At the end of the day, we’re an American band. We’re a musical mutt with influences from every genre of American popular music. It’s all in there, and it’s fairly obvious.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
Henley called him "the reincarnation of Duane Allman" or some such coke-ism.
^Felder must have been some sort of child genius as it looks like he was born in 1971.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
xp song lengths have been creeping up these last few, it augurs ill imo
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 September 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
felder, leadon, and meisner are definitely all really good players
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 September 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
The 'train passing' harmony at 2:23 must've been really hard to execute
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 13 September 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
Meisner m.v.p. in putting some propulsion into these songs.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 14 September 2013 03:54 (ten years ago) link
"My Man"
http://www.bernieleadononline.com/images/BLeadonBanjoColor.jpg
http://youtu.be/bbpw6LG5a8I
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 September 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Shoeshineidaho 4 months agoI've known this song, (how to play it) since the album came out, Long time ago huh? I've have no problems playin' this on stage or in front of anyone, until my father passed away @ 86yrs. a couple of months ago. I'm 60, and when I play this song now-- -it has to be in my room- - -and private. I can get through it- - but not in front of any one else. He had dementia, didn't know any of us for quite a while.If I COULD write, like this, this one's for you dad. But alone, in my room :-)!
slockisadyoutube :(
― scott seward, Saturday, 14 September 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link
I **cing love this tune. excellent Gram pastiche
― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Saturday, 14 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
Wow I like this one. I'd heard of it, knew it was Leadon's tribute/eulogy for Gram Parsons, his bandmate in the second Burrito Bros album, but never heard it.
Bernie Leadon becoming my favorite Eagle, though I realize that's faint praise. Just learned he was in Hearts & Flowers too - never knew that, have only heard their first album which predated his being in the band. Also of course was all over the great first Dillard & Clark album.
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Saturday, 14 September 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
Another nice one. Has there ever been a figure in Rock (aside from a mega-star like Elvis) who quickly inspired so many posthumous tributes in song? Parsons has got "My Man", "From Boulder To Birmingham", "Crazy Eyes", I think Hillman had one on a SHF Band album too.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 14 September 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
I keep hearing this thread title said by Mark E Smith in "New Face in Hell" by the Fall
― My Little Pono (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
Topless enthusiAST
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, September 14, 2013 1:43 PM (29 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Poco's "Crazy Eyes", though about Parsons, was not posthumous. (it almost was - the album was released just four days before he died)
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Saturday, 14 September 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
mentioned upthread that I got all the Eagles records in a box set in 05. the entire bloody eagles corpus has been rolling around in my various devices since then.
I think, despite agreeing with many herein re: the shittiness of Meisner's songs on the previous two, that "my man" is the worst song of the initial run of LPs. Bernie seems to be a unaffected, normal dude, a fine player, but he is the worst, which is to say, least distinctive singer out of the seven.
The only competition for shittiest tune is another one of his, on the next record, which Henley in particular disliked not only cuz it sounded like "cocktail music" but that it was co-written by Leadon's girlfriend at the time, the spawn of a man viscerally despised by the counter-culture.
I also don't get the love here for Hoskyn's HC book. On the recommendation of this thread and its antecedent, I read it, and it seems wholly unnecessary and repetitive of his 1997 Waiting for the Sun, which encompasses LA music of the the 40s to the late 90s.
I bought Marc Eliot's To the Limit when it came out in 99. Now that has some funny shit! He does, however, pussy out on the Henley "hello pimp? the underage hooker is broken: I want another sent to my pad NOW" incident and declines to describe it at all.
― veronica moser, Saturday, 14 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
"My Man" kinda unremarkable, but faintly touching.
Funniest part is what Gram thought about the Eagles: "a plastic dry fuck."
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 04:16 (ten years ago) link
^ My appreciation of GP just grew immensely
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Sunday, 15 September 2013 11:35 (ten years ago) link
kinda unremarkable, faintly touching
Agree with this. It doesn't quite just sit there, like their earlier boring filler; this is good filler, a bit of movement, honest vocal, a pleasant way of passing time.
I dig the easy vibe here way more than the familiar greatest hits stuff. In my mind there's a fantasy alternate greatest hits which is also all easy vibes - this'd be on there.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link
"On The Border"
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/vYh8Vry9pkE/hqdefault.jpg
http://youtu.be/wRmzajCyToo
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
This track was inspired by the infamous Watergate scandal and fears at the time of the government overstepping its bounds and infringing on people's privacy. Barely audible at the end of the song, Frey can be heard whispering "Say Goodnight, Dick," a line made famous by Dan Rowan of Rowan and Martin but in this case referring to Richard Nixon's resignation. Nixon would indeed resign five months after the release of the album.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
Lead vocals by Don Henley, T.N.T.S. by "Coach", claps by The Clapetts, lead guitar (uncredited) by Glenn Frey
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
TS: "On The Border" vs. "You Haven't Done Nothin'"
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
I actually dig this, though, way more than I thought I would. Easily the funkiest thing they ever did, and not unconvincingly so.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
"my man" is pretty slight. nice sentiment i guess.
"on the border" is the first thing i've heard so far that sounds like later period eagles.
doesn't really go anywhere though. these guys are just so ploddy they can't help it.
i really dig the sound of the claps. sounds really processes almost post-punk snare type sound.
the lyrics remind me of henley solo stuff that kinda political jive he thinks he's good at.
the last minute or so with the call and response "on the border" and the triplets on the cowbell really pick things up.
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 15 September 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
good call on "Border" being the first track that conceivably Walsh could've played on. yet there's still a bit of CSNY in the chorus harmonies and the Band in the swapping vocals in the bridge.
this is okay, if a bit plodding and it pales (blanches) compared to the other "phonetapping" Nixon songs of '74, like "Fingerprint File" and Stevie's "Haven't Done Nothing." (and pinging Nixon in summer '74 is shooting fish in a barrel).
― col, Sunday, 15 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
ums otm, i love that last minute and half - can't believe the eagles got funky multiple times. the harmonies remind me of grand funk more than csny!
― balls, Sunday, 15 September 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
i long thought this actually was from the Joe Walsh era - the intro, especially, sounds like him
― 574 srsly (Lee626), Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
Now there's a thread: Out of the Car, Longhair - Songs where another vocalist plays the part of a cop
― pplains, Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
'On the Border' also sonically mimics the paranoid funk that the Stones were putting out with 'Fingerprint File'. Funk definitely threw a monkey wrench to the rock bands of the day. Even hard rock stalwarts like Deep Purple were entranced with the funk pushing up the bass and getting that real wet drum sound with percussion overdubs at that time. Go check out some of the tunes on the second album by Mk.III Deep Purple with David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes to see what I mean.
― earlnash, Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
"Out of the Car, Longhair - Songs where another vocalist plays the part of a cop"
there's got to be a bunch of 'em. "Save the Life of My Child" off Bookends randomly comes to min. "Summertime Blues' probl. the spritual godfather of such songs, though I bet there's some in early country and jazz.
― col, Sunday, 15 September 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
min = mind
Funk definitely threw a monkey wrench to the rock bands of the day.
Hell, even the Who got funky:http://youtu.be/p91GXWXyngo
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
rockers getting funky part of the foundation of hip hop. just ask Mountain.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
Totally. It's kind of amazing to think that Jefferson Starship were once sufficiently funky as to be sampled by Public Enemy.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
Eh, it's kind of retrofitted funk. Almost anything is funky if you loop it. Like the Jungle Brothers sampling Iggy clearing his throat or whatever.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
^ funk authority
― balls, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
funkmaster josh
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
Not into this. It reminds me more of where barroom rock ventured in the late 80s than any actual funk.
I was actually a bit confused about why you were all citing funk at all til I picked up on the rising lick after the 7. I can see it just about now - the dirty lead get kind of funky around 2:00, there's some Bowie funk kicking in around 2:50. The last 90 seconds are quite cool but they are not funk, Henley's playing is too stiff (though I do like it)
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
let's be clear here, its funky FOR THE EAGLES.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
the handclaps make it. heartache tonight is still my fave beat though.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
would have liked to hear War cover this song. that would have been cool.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
still funkin' shit up in 2013
http://youtu.be/PBrMTrPXHs8
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
"On The Border" is easily one of my favorite Eagles songs. Cool riffs, fantastic utilization of all their voices outside of the usual harmonic context, all the sections work. I know I'll be disappointed when I discover this won't be used in American Hustle 'cause it's too 'on the nose' or something. As ums pointed out, this is also the beginning of cranky politico pundit Henley, who would resurface throughout the rest of the Eagles run, and then fully become his Mr. Hyde in the solo years. I don't hold that against it.
would have liked to hear War cover this song. that would have been cool.― scott seward, Sunday, September 15, 2013 1:30 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― scott seward, Sunday, September 15, 2013 1:30 PM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Isley Brothers man! Ernie would shred.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
what's with joe [ walsh] and other guitarists making funny faces when they play?pinoywheelgunner 3 months agoIt's just how it is done. That's all.It is the way of things.StephenRedrobe in reply to pinoywheelgunner 3 months ago
It's just how it is done. That's all.It is the way of things.StephenRedrobe in reply to pinoywheelgunner 3 months ago
Searched for a while for this half-remembered quote xp, lolled when I saw it actually was about these guys. And then I thought *slows down, drops voice* 'well of course it was'.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:28 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, I was operating on the assumption that this was the subtext of all the funky comments. It was for mine, at least.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, September 15, 2013 3:23 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM. And the Isleys had an amazing track record of re-working mid-70s top 40 hits (cf. "Summer Breeze," "Fire and Rain"); it woulda been cool to hear them tackle some Eagles.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
"let's be clear here, its funky FOR THE EAGLES."
― scott seward, Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:28 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yeah, it's funk in the same way 'Hotel California' kind of does some reggae.
― earlnash, Sunday, 15 September 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
mindblowing
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 15 September 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
original title for 'hotel california' was 'mexican reggae'
― balls, Sunday, 15 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
eagles unheralded inventors of reggaeton.
― scott seward, Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey's people are contacting Daddy Yankee about possibly sampling "Chug All Night" even as we speak.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 15 September 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
"James Dean"
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m135/icon_watcher/More%20Thumbnails/James_Dean_crash.jpg
http://youtu.be/7guzEuV7j9c
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
No, no, no. This is appalling.
Releasing this as a single, wtf? That isn't what you do with a song like this - what you do with a song like this is jam it once at a soundtrack then forget about it; if you like it, tape it and learn it, trot it at future soundchecks; then eventually the tape gets around, you can play it as an encore at a fanclub-only show after your reunion, it gets an enthusiastic response. Maybe you can do it again before the next tour. Don't make it a single ffs.
I dunno, it's stuff like this makes me think the only quality control this lot ever did was deciding on a tracklisting for the Greatest Hits.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
So far I've been surprised at how little I've been irritated by hearing these tracks again. But this is still just lousy: this the cloddish, rotten, stupid Eagles; the meathead Eagles, the pestilent Eagles. I can picture George W. Bush, driving around Midland in '75, knocking back a few cans of Coors, blasting this awful piece of shit while he tailgates someone. God, even the guitars sound hateful.
― col, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
Unmitigated shit. The worst track they ever recorded. Fuck rock music.
Even changing it to Ed Gein doesn't help.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
the AOR template in that intro. an intro that would start a thousand bands. or at the very least 38 Special.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
no offense to 38 Special.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
pseudo-scientific formulae and lots of charts prepared to distill that intro into a radio format. and thus post-1974 the million dollar rock radio game threw out anything that didn't adhere to the formula. no more freeform no more r&b no more nothing that didn't sound like the intro to "james dean".
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
0:00-0:02 are a lot like 0:02-0:04 of Anarchy In The UK, it's not just a template for AOR
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
Apart from this song being irredeemable shit, the drum mix -- that Henley was intent on controlling, hence the break from Glyn Johns -- is so insanely awful. Why is the hi-hat panned hard right? In what physical placement situation would anyone, ever, hear it like that?
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
i'd say the first 24 seconds of the song are a fair representation of what was to come.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
Dear god in heaven this is gross.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
the fade-to-feedback is *also* a template for Anarchy In The UK, what is this?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
one guitar riff in the verses is basically just the Beatles' "Birthday." agree the drum mix is whack, but it's just one of many problems with this turkey
― col, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
it reminds me of country music that i hate. "rockin'" country. did any country people ever cover this song?
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
not that i hate all rockin' country. just a certain type. are you ready for some football rockin' country.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
I like the drum riff during the guitar solo.
Were these guys listening to Skynyrd?
The lyrics are complete garbage.
― Euler, Monday, 16 September 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
It sounds like a forced pseudo-homage. And as with everything else Glenn Frey ever sang, this song would be vastly improved if Ronnie Van Zant was the vocalist, even with the garbage lyrics.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
This is not the template for the sex Pistol cmon. It's gonna be hard enough to wade through all this shit, let's not try sub xhuxk made up stuff
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
lol this song.
Thread fully pays off with everybody's reactions to James Dean.
― carl agatha, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
"Why is the hi-hat panned hard right? In what physical placement situation would anyone, ever, hear it like that?"
If you are standing directly in front of the kit facing towards the drummer?
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
Not even. This is panned so far right that, as you're facing the kit, your head would have to be where the snare drum is.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
it does make me feel like that in a sense
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
i have never heard this song in my life, but i got to the point where someone says JAYMES DEAN JAYMES DEAN and i started laughing do people like this song?
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
this band continues to baffle me
― call all destroyer, Monday, 16 September 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
so like Henley-Frey to think James Dean is a useful metaphor for, well, anything
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
LL I almost emailed you this a.m. to warn you not to participate in the Eagles thread today for the sake of yr sanity
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
i know one person who heard this song and said EUREKA!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A2DBY92CYAAciWB.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
It's just so VAPIDi have experienced a good amount of monday morning self loathing for even listening to 55 seconds of it. that's as far as i got.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
that is my favorite picture of kenny loggins
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
I think the Dean obsession was specifically Frey's going back to his years as an asshole child.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
I haven't heard, or even thought about, this song since high school, but yeah this is really a clumsier prototype of "Footloose" isn't it?
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
James DeanJames DeanKick off the Sunday shoes
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
omg it's true
― carl agatha, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
a low down bad refrigerator
is there some kind of international tribunal at the Hague for crimes against songwriting? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck this song
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 September 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah i always think of footloose when i hear this song.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
James DeanJames DeanKick off the Sunday shoes― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, September 16, 2013 10:40 AM (19 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lol
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
1974 was a pretty big year for not getting the 1950's.
― Brad C., Monday, 16 September 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
I don't know if I can say thanks for this, but I spent the last 5 min with
everybody cut every body cut everybody cut every body cut everybody cut every body cuteverybody cut every body cutED GEIN!
worst weird al song ever
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
(xpost) Wow, yeah Happy Days debuted in 1974 too. Coincidence, or...
― Same old bland-as-sand mood mouthings (Dan Peterson), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Loool LL
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
Reading about this song I thought I'd never heard it, but then I played it and it was like ooooooh, right, this thing. If I don't hear it for another 20 years maybe I can go back to thinking I've never heard it.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
I'm not even sure I ever knew it was the Eagles. It would pop up late at night on the rawk radio.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 16 September 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
Paulina Mia 5 months agoI think the Eagles are one of the most underrated bands of all time. Reply · 10 Vote UpVote Down
― pplains, Monday, 16 September 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Always thought this was more a rip-off of Ballad of John & Yoko.
― pplains, Monday, 16 September 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
I think I tolerate this one more than the rest of you guys. It's just too cheesy to fully hate (see also "Crocodile Rock" and, well, I did start this thread years ago Tributes to 50s Rock’n’Roll and Doo Wop by Rockers form the late 60s and early 70s (A List)).
Glenn & Don from the Crowe interview:
JAMES DEANGLENN: Again, all from that same night when we’d gone to see Tim Hardin. As Desperado became a concept album with an Old West theme, “James Dean” got shelved. When it came time to do On the Border, we got “James Dean” right off the shelf and said, “Let’s finish this.” I always thought the best line in “James Dean” was “I know my life would look alright if I could see it on the silver screen.” You just don’t get to do that.DON: I sat there and listened to the guys talk about James Dean. They had evidently studied him and knew much more about him than I did. I had seen most of Dean’s movies, but I somehow missed the whole icon thing. The mythology never quite reached my part of East Texas, but I pitched in and ended up with a writing credit — although the song was mostly Jackson’s, I think.
DON: I sat there and listened to the guys talk about James Dean. They had evidently studied him and knew much more about him than I did. I had seen most of Dean’s movies, but I somehow missed the whole icon thing. The mythology never quite reached my part of East Texas, but I pitched in and ended up with a writing credit — although the song was mostly Jackson’s, I think.
I like how Henley doesn't 'get' James Dean, despite seeing "most of (his) movies". Dude, there's only three--which one'd you miss? FWIW, PBS used to show a doc about the making of Giant that the Don-ster narrated.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 September 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link
I sat there and listened to the guys talk about James Dean. lolthey're total airheads
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
Jackson Browne wrote some of this offal?
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 September 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
Most of it, according to Don! Hey, they can't all be "Before The Deluge" or "Lawyers In Love"!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
Legal Eagles in Love
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
i saw legal eagles at the movies. redford is such a lump.
― scott seward, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
robert redford is the eagles of acting.
and that's one of Redford's better performance!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
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― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
me too! but darryl hannah and her fire dance to that rod stewart song were amusing, and that made me think of jackson browne. weren't they married? why did my parents take me to see legal eagles?!
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
you wanna see Browne and Hannah dance?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knVbfhmME1g
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
Didn't realize Browne wrote this. That means there's only one degree separating "James Dean" and "All Tomorrow's Parties."
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
it must be awesome to be Jackson Browne and have Daryl Hannah doing her watercolors while the big man clomps on your hardwood floor.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
there are apparently no degrees separating "you're a friend of mine" from the friends theme song
― no fomo (La Lechera), Monday, 16 September 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
"Always thought this was more a rip-off of Ballad of John & Yoko."
yes! I had the wrong beatles rip-off
― col, Monday, 16 September 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
http://home.comcast.net/~leslienoelani/TNI.html
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 16 September 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
Jackson: "...It's bullshit! I did not hit her! I did naaaaaht! Oh hi, Glenn."
http://youtu.be/ISXiFJS9D5A
Glenn: "I'm just sittin' up here chuggin', you know."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 16 September 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
In a brief digression, Lou Barlow has things to say about Don Henley and "All She Wants To Do Is Dance."
― Marlo Poco (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link
"Ol' 55"
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/288046/Tom+Waits.jpg
http://youtu.be/Fcqfcw3kmoI
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
oldmanhatdudejpeg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
oh man i am feeling lou on the zach & cody theme song. ugh. i will find myself just repeating a phrase from it at home like a lunatic and i can't stop myself.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
Lickety Splitly sounds like a fkin Sid and Marty Krofft character
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
brutal lyrics throughout on this one
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
this totally sucks all the soul and feeling from the original. But i'm still glad the Eagles recorded it, because as a result I heard the song when I was very young and liked it enough to make me (and undoubtedly countless others) seek out more from this Tom Waits guy early on.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
The harmonies kill when they kick in on the chorus, but yeah, thanks Glenn for sucking the marrow out for us.
Like the "cars are all passing me / trucks are all flashing me" part. That was actually a good line before Glenn Stiller got a hold of it.
http://youtu.be/ZXunos4IXDU
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
And holy shit, I just realized the Eagles changed that line!
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
"What does he mean the trucks were flashing him? Like a guy in a trenchcoat? Ha, ha, you hear that, Bernie? No, let's make it where 'the lights are flashing', that will make more sense to the listener."
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
AVC: It’s a little ridiculous that this song has electric drums on it when Don Henley is a famous drummer.
Don Henley may be a famous drummer, but he is not, nor should he be, famous for his drumming.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
plodding drum-kit owner
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
The last two days have been grim.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
Usually I like pedal steel, but somehow it increases the suckage here ... the Waits version is by no means top-grade Waits, but it sure sounds good compared to the vacuum-sealed Eagles version. Waits' 55 is rusted out and barely rolling, the Eagles' was rented for a photo shoot.
― Brad C., Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
this song is just zzzzzzzzz to me and it kinda just makes me wish i was listening to johnny rivers slow dancin' and swayin' to the music.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah, pretty ghastly. Hate the way Frey sings "freeway CARS and TRUCKS" and then Henley comes in as if he's been wheeled over to the microphone. Seems to go on for like 10 minutes, too. It probably was Waits' biggest source of royalties until Rod Stewart came along, though
― col, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
lots of people covered his songs back then. he must have been doing okay. i know this isn't the only cover of this song from the 70's.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
or at least i THINK i've head other covers of it? i might be wrong. seem to recall some folkies that did it.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
best information i've ever read on the internet:
"Big in Japan," from the Tom Waits album "Mule Variations" , was covered on the Alphaville album "Forever Young."
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
wiki says tim buckley was the first person to cover a waits song. in 1973.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
oh man the pumpkins. at least fester doesn't sing it. though the guitar dude is horrible enough. this is good motivation for people who can't sing to get up on stage anyway.
http://youtu.be/Sfk5qhWmnr0
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
"Ol' 55" is horrendous. Even worse than the filliest filler on Desperfiller.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
Desperfiller! hahaha!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
iain matthews does a good cover of ol'55, released just a month before the eagles
― buzza, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
"Ol' 55" is like "Hallelujah." There are very few people, especially singer/songwriter types, who haven't covered it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRLAkIicG84
― Marlo Poco (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
"iain matthews does a good cover of ol'55"
right! duh, that's the one i was thinking of.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
I heard about 10 seconds of "life in the fast lane" on the radio before changing the station in disgust.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
This morning, that is.
so hard-headed.
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
http://www.postandcourier.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130917/PC16/130919390/1177/north-charleston-woman-accused-of-stabbing-roommate-in-dispute-over-rock-music
― balls, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, September 17, 2013 10:19 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is the Funky Kings album (which includes that Jack Tempchin-penned song) any good? Jules Shear, who i really like, was in that band too.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:04 (ten years ago) link
i never really got into the funky kings record. i guess i was hoping that it was funky when i first played it.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
This is '73
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSx2H10WJec
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
a no-embedded-videos thread has been requested, folks. that's why scott is using youtu.be just a few posts up.
― zvookster, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
Oops
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
Police said Bader admitted that she stabbed her roommate, but alleged that she did so out of self-defense because he was choking her making her listen to the Eagles
― Brad C., Tuesday, 17 September 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
the Waits version is by no means top-grade Waits, but it sure sounds good compared to the vacuum-sealed Eagles version. Waits' 55 is rusted out and barely rolling, the Eagles' was rented for a photo shoot.
Brad C. pretty much otm. I actually heard the Waits version first ('cause that's how I roll) and pretty much every thing that's great about it is missing from the Eagles' cover. What once was lived-in and kinda sad is now air-brushed & bushy-tailed. And again with the lame coda that feels longer than it is!
BTW, has Waits ever said what make was the '55 in the song? Taking a hint from his next album, I'd guess it was an Oldsmobile
http://www.adclassix.com/images55olds98sedan.jpg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
From the Crowe...
OL’ 55GLENN: David Geffen played me a tape of Tom Waits in his office. “Ol’ 55″ was the first song on a demo that had maybe three songs on it. I loved the song, got Tom Waits’ version, and took it to the band. I played it for Don and said, “I think we should do this. We can split the vocals, it could be really cool, and we could do oooohs in this section here.” I really liked the song. Still do. It’s such a car thing. Your first car is like your first apartment. You had a mobile studio apartment! “Ol’ 55″ was so Southern California, and yet there was some Detroit in it as well. It was that car thing, and I loved the idea of driving home at sunrise, thinking about what had happened the night before.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
Caddy: http://youtu.be/Z6CDa-z1MUY
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
http://www.adclassix.com/images/55cadillaccoupedeville.jpg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
"Your first car is like your first apartment. You had a mobile studio apartment!" you can just imagine the epiphanic tone in Frey's voice here
― col, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
To be fair, the guy was from Detroit.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
"I really liked the song. Still do. It’s such a car thing. Your first car is like your first apartment. You had a mobile studio apartment! “Ol’ 55″ was so Southern California, and yet there was some Detroit in it as well. It was that car thing, and I loved the idea of driving home at sunrise, thinking about what had happened the night before."
http://www.founditemclothing.com/halloween/slater-dazed-and-confused-pot-leaf-costume-2.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
xpost...and the interior of a '55 GM product is as big as a small studio apartment.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
I like to think of the '55 as being some long-gone marque, like this:
http://www.adclassix.com/images/55packard400fourhundredcoup.jpg
― Lee626, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
“Ol’ 55″ was so Southern California, and yet there was some Detroit in it as well. It was that car thing
In other words, any part of the United States where people drive cars on a regular basis.
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
FACT: Don Henley's dad ran an auto parts store.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
This is boring. I like steel pedal but this is the first time I've thought the guitars sound bad.
xp I love that the band think they're providing subtext, but there's no subtext. They're all surface.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
I just want you all to know I was not involved.http://dangerousminds.net/comments/drunk_woman_attacks_roommate_with_knife_for_listening_to_the_eagles
― I'll take the jangle-jangle over the throb-throb (brg30), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
When police talked to the victim, he said he had been listening to The Eagles when Bader told him that she did not want to hear the classic rock band's songs. So the man told her to shut up, the report states.Bader responded by allegedly getting a 14-inch serrated bread knife and swung it at the man repeatedly, the report states. The victim wrestled the knife away from Bader, but she came back with another knife before the victim could run and lock himself in the bathroom.The victim said he and Bader used to date, but said while the relationship had ended they still lived together, the report states. According to Bader, the victim was choking her which led to her getting a knife. However, officers did not see any hand prints on Bader and the neighbor corroborated the victim's story. Officers noted in the report that everyone was intoxicated at the time of the assault.The report did not details which Eagles songs were being played.
Bader responded by allegedly getting a 14-inch serrated bread knife and swung it at the man repeatedly, the report states. The victim wrestled the knife away from Bader, but she came back with another knife before the victim could run and lock himself in the bathroom.
The victim said he and Bader used to date, but said while the relationship had ended they still lived together, the report states.
According to Bader, the victim was choking her which led to her getting a knife. However, officers did not see any hand prints on Bader and the neighbor corroborated the victim's story. Officers noted in the report that everyone was intoxicated at the time of the assault.
The report did not details which Eagles songs were being played.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
It was "Chug All Night".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
everyone was intoxicated at the time of the assault
YOU DON'T SAY
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
Wait a minute ...
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/190gqnxor5wyfjpg/original.jpg
http://www.glidemagazine.com/glide/wp-content/uploads/legacy/joe%20walsh%20pub%20pic%202012%2002b.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
if it was "James Dean," automatic acquittal
― col, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
You guys'll be begging for "James Dean" once we roll around to "Get Over It" (pending the thread or any of us make it that far).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
come on, don't remind us of that. it's like knowing you've gotta have a colonoscopy in a few months
― col, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
FIELD REPORT: heard "hotel california" two times today on two different stations (one classic rock, the other one of those "all the hits you love from the 70s, 80s, and 90s" stations) both times i recognized it within 3 seconds
― no fomo (La Lechera), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
omg I have a FIELD REPORT too: heard 'Desperado', courtesy of a busker at the local farmer's market
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 17 September 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
There's a guy in the River Market with a big Casio keyboard and some PA speakers. He does a full-on version of "Hotel California" except instead of a dueling guitar solo, he just lets the chk-bk-bok-ka beat roll for about four minutes before leaning into the mic to sing "On a dark, desert highway...." again. It's like some Andy Kaufman routine.
When you hear this dude's version, you can definitely get the sense of what "Mexican Reggae" sounds like.
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 September 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link
I have not heard a single eagles track in the wild since we started this thread tbh
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 00:07 (ten years ago) link
apologies in advance for the icecream van following you around playing 'Chug All Night' 24/7
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 01:13 (ten years ago) link
Flipping radio stations on way to work, heard take it to the limit
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link
toward the end of this thread the dementia will set in and people will be posting: SAT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AND SANG EAGLES SONGS ALL DAY.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
No man, what happens at the end of this thread is we all start writing Eagles fanfic.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link
the only question i have is whose chest sparkles: Frey or Henley
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 04:53 (ten years ago) link
Not a sighting as such, more 'too much time on this thread', but earlier i was driving behind a van with licence no. EA61... and I thought of you guys. The company was something like 'Dean Simmons Engineering' too.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:05 (ten years ago) link
I heard some crap soft rock song on the radio, so I figured, hmm, I wonder, just maybe ...
And yes, go figure, it turned out to be the Eagles. "New Kid in Town." Sucked.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link
"Is It True?"
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/whitcap/Randy11-2.jpg
http://youtu.be/Rd1TIX__yOc
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............
yeah, that tune ain't no good. In my view, he didn't have any good songs until the next rekkid, which is one of the greatest they ever done. Spose I'm partial to songs sung by eagles bassists.
Should the eagles be accorded greater reconsideration in light of the fact that surely Jim derogatis dislikes them intensely?
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
Nah
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
The eagles are making me punk again
We should track by track Sham 69 or TSOL next
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
y'know what? randy was the dreamiest looking Eagle in the 1970s. These days, though? hoo boy…
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
This isn't just bad, it's amateurish. Sounds like something that woulda come out of a Berklee songwriting class.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
there was also an interview in Musician magazine in '89, I think, where Glyn Johns bullshits about various acts he worked with. He went into great detail about the Eagles, and corroborated much of Henley and Frey's complaints. He also says that Randy took him aside and said, "Glyn, why can't our records sound like MoTown?" To which he reacted much in the same manner as when Don said "make me sound like Bonham."
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
The funny thing is, Szymczyk got them even farther away from any Motown or Bonham sounds. As far as possible, in fact.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:15 AM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
I listened to this earlier but nothing stuck, except the 'Freebird' intro. This has become quite a lull, I thought they'd cracked it round the turn of these last two albums, but no.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
Frey's slide guitar on this track is the perfect finishing touch of zzzzzzzzzzzzzz ... something about that sound triggers soft rock sensors deep in my brain
― Brad C., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
is side 2 of "on the border" the single worst sequence of Eagles music? even poor Randy's bass fills on the chorus sound anemic. "She's really leeeaavin'": no fool she.
― col, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
man we were really high on this album for a minute there. we almost forgot who we were dealing with.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
y'know what? randy was the dreamiest looking Eagle in the 1970s. i was about to say the same thing -- he was so cute, and this song is boring but doesn't come preloaded with that overwhelming feeling of I HATE THIS PERSON so i guess i kinda like it? it sounds like a subpar Chris Bell song.
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
Randy's okay. He's no David Gilmour.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
oof, i have such a crush on early 70's david gilmour. hubba hubba.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
hi dere...
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llnk21dAQD1qkrfyeo1_500.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
gilmour is supernaturally hotrandy is cute!
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
well, was
These days, though? hoo boy…
tbf, his Eagles songs and solo career didn't generate the kind of royalties that would enable him to get the massive facial reconstructive surgeries that Frey and Henley got.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:04 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
God, seriously.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
earnestly saggy randy >>>> gross mean frey and henleythey cannot get surgery to make them less assholey
he looks friendly and affable! http://www.rockhistorybook.com/Images/title_pic_large/eagles_randy_meisner.jpg
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
Put a swastika tattoo on his neck and he's Jack from Breaking Bad.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
good pointreally i'm not particularly committed to randy, he's just not as thoroughly repulsive as the other eagles
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
Coming off the last two tracks, I rather enjoyed this one. Idk.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
has Henley had surgery?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
Are the archives of Musician mag online anywhere? I read it religiously as a young nerd and briefly tricked myself into liking shit like dire straits etc bc of it.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
they cannot get surgery to make them less assholey
otm. And if they could, they wouldn't.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
They cannot get surgery to make them into assholes.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
I can't make my face into an asshole.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
I suppose that would be form of ostomy?
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
self-sodomy
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
Getting ahead of ourselves, but I like the wiki entry on Good Day in Hell:
For the recording of the song, session guitarist Don Felder was called upon to perform the slide guitar. Although slide guitar on two other songs on the album (the bluegrass "Midnight Flyer" and the mid-tempo "Is It True") were performed by Glenn Frey, the Eagles' new producer Bill Szymczyk wanted to get a more experienced slide guitarist to record on "Good Day in Hell".
So that finishing touch of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz is basically what brought Felder on board.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
shit like dire straits
Come on man. I was thinking DS would make for a pretty good track-by-track thread themselves.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
You guys are getting out of hand.
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
http://31.media.tumblr.com/12a131d95fbda5ececa74d2f2df8697b/tumblr_mta8e76VGq1qzykw5o1_500.jpg
Hard to understand....what a hell of a man
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
i think my worst case scenario for another listening thread would be, like, mr. bungle. or the collected works of mike patton. i wouldn't last a week.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
I should have said "shit like dire straits' brothers in arms"
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
i will always love the first side of Making Movies. perfect album side. i saw them on the brothers in arms tour snd i was so stoned i fell asleep.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
making movies is all great until it manages to completely bin it coming around the final corner
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
it sounds like a subpar Chris Bell song
very very otm
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
i've just been assuming all along that the next listening thread will be the doobie brothers.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
but that would be enjoyable! at least for me it would be.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
is that against the rules?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
haha, i'm listening to a loudon wainwright album right now and he calls bob geldof BOB GELDORF. "even bob geldorf looks alarmingly thing..."
that doesn't have anything to do with the doobie brothers though.
http://images.dangerousminds.net/uploads/images/doobiebust1dfsdg.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
no, no rules. but this thread is kinda the only way i would ever listen to all the eagles. i would (and sometimes do) listen to the doobies for pleasure.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
god, i still remember how scared i was when the doobies saw rerun's tape recorder.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
the four albums after One Step Closer might be kinda rough though. i've never listened to them.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
i think it would be perfectly fair, for official thread purposes, and possibly for real-life purposes too, to discount any album released after the one called farewell tour. not to mention after the tour of the same name.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link
that doobie episode is all-time
― velko, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 17:45 (ten years ago) link
I haven't seen that episode since I was a kid. It was much later that I finally said to myself, "Wait a minute, the Doobie Brothers?"
― pplains, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:10 (ten years ago) link
Just the premise that there was a lucrative market for audience-recorded bootleg Doobies is pretty hilarious.
"Dude, on 'Fool,' Simmons does this crazy solo! WAY better than Santa Monica '79!"
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:40 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM, one of the worst album closers ever.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
as for "Is It True", i'll take a mediocre, forgettable Meisner track over the more cloying and annoying work of Frey, Henley, or i'm finding, Jackson Browne
― Lee626, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
Doobie's might be useful for me -- I only just recently found out that China Grove was called China Grove, I had no idea what the song was called or even what it was about except that it was a lot WHOA OH OH, WHOAAAAOOOHH
I tried to sing it on rockband at a party a while ago and failed out of it because the whole time I was like, WAIT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING?!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
that's nothing i just discovered that "Brown Sugar" is about slavery! via the miley cyrus thread. i had no idea what the words were other than the chorus.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
God, yes, that is a horrrrrible song that should really never be played on the radio again.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
It actually makes me a little sick to my stomach, especially since I uncritically rocked out to it for many, many years (albeit without knowing all of the lyrics, but I knew enough that I should have been like, "Hey... wait a minute...").
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
let's forget about that for now. i don't want to bring the thread down. look, funny picture!
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Timothy+B+Schmit+2012+New+Orleans+Jazz+Heritage+rkcDCwug4J6l.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
sorry, you are right! Glenn looks like an angry orc.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
I can't imagine a sentient human sexing Glenn Frey.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
red hair/white beard looks amazing
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
amazingly awfulthey both look like asshole old men on vacation
― no fomo (La Lechera), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
his wife and kids are all really normal and nice looking. judging from google pictures.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
the one guy in that Eagles documentary who looks better now than he did in the 70s is Azoff
― Brad C., Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
"Is It True?": Very AM GOLD. Discreetly catchy. Seems like Frey was taking his slide cues from George Harrison, except he gradually gets more showboaty. Once again another track that would be better without the coda--just a dramatic cut @ like 2:26-ish.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
huh i was all prepared to hate "Is It True?" but i like it...slide guitar is good and someone who said AM lite rock Chris Bell is pretty right on....
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
RE: Mr. "i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night"
I seem to recall that some Musician articles are on Rockbackpages.com, the work of Barney Hoskyns, who as noted upthread wrote the book that many of you guys like but that I find to repetitive and unnecessary in light of of his Waiting for the Sun book of 1997.
Funny that you mention Dire straits. Musician mag from the late '80s to the mid 90s was run by EIC Bill Flanagan. I was an intern there in the early 90s, and I suspect I made a fatal mistake in saying that I thought CSN fucking sucks, but that I liked Neil Young. He raised his eyebrows and said "what about "'through my sails'?" "Uh that's okay." But my fate was sealed in his eyes. He was the one who did the interview was Glyn Johns I mentioned earlier.
Flanagan's a smart fellow, great writer, etc etc. But make no mistake: his success then and since at VH1.com is down to being a courtier to GREAT MEN OF ROCK like Henley, Knopfler, Springsteen and above all Bono. If the artist was famous and hewed to the template of baby-boomer notions of oracular, literary significance, then Flanagan was all in. His tastes or rather his tendency to buddy up to those guys doomed Musician. Hilariously, he stumped for Jesus Jones in 1991: Nirvana sailed right over his head.
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
I really loved his U2 book
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 18 September 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for the background Veronica. That jibes with my memories of the mag. My readership of it was abt 1985-88. Sometimes there was stuff like Curt Kirkwood talking abt his gtr technique, and unless my brain is playing tricks on me I first read abt the Fall in there circa late 85. Stuff like the Blue Nile too...
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 18 September 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
i remember the blue nile review, i think. i think that's what made me buy the first album. that would have been 1984 though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:34 (ten years ago) link
― Ismael Klata,
I've said it in U2 threads but besides being a superb piece of reporting with worrisome ethics (he parties hard with the band) it's an unusually literate time and place narrative: Bosnia unraveling, Nirvan's impact on MTV, a little something called the information superhighway in its larval state, and Bono's Fly glasses.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link
...and all this prior to hell freezing over because the Eagles got back together to have higher seat prices than U2, Stones etc.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 September 2013 00:47 (ten years ago) link
I was a heavy Musician reader in that 80s time frame too... Peter Buck had a regular column for a year or so. One great one was Buck going on about how critics should stop writing about R.E.M. because The Replacements were the greatest band in the universe. Musician was pretty sympathetic to the college rock scene. Considine's "Rock Short Takes" was the greatest. I would Kickstarter the hell out of it if he could write those again on Twitter.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 19 September 2013 01:48 (ten years ago) link
How dumb is it that I want to spend the next 4 years reading all the issues of Option and Musician I read during those 4 years.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link
i would love to come across a stash of options. i never see them. i should ssk byron c. if i see him if he has a spare stash. i need to get some old FE mags from him when i see him. those are fun to read too. i didn't really read them much at the time. would read musician too.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link
hell, i'd read old copies of tower records magazines.
I loved Pulse! Got to do a couple of those back page comics in there when Marc Weidenbaum was editing.
Would hella wreck some old FEs too. Skot get all these together and start a xtian science reading room in back of your store with a couch.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
i got a couch back there but i gotta get all the records out of there first.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link
I'm convinced Tower might still be in business if they hadn't stopped publishing (and giving away free) Pulse a few years before they closed. I didn't have a Tower store near me but always made a monthly trip there to pick up the new issue, and usually left with some albums, magazines, and DVDs i didn't intend to buy.
I'm trying to remember which record chain had a similar (if not as good) free magazine called Request. I still have alot of those too. Loved the challopy "Overrated"/"Underrated" column, even though I often didn't agree.
― Lee626, Thursday, 19 September 2013 10:30 (ten years ago) link
Musicland's Request magazine was pretty good
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:40 (ten years ago) link
as penance for rock mag thread drift…
drifting off to sleep, was thinking about how, post-Beatles, many big bands were invested in the notion of all members writing and singing, i.e "the integrity of the band." and I thought of another huge 70s band and how their roles line up with the Eagles…in both, the two principals held the hand of the less accomplished songwriters for big hits, but nonetheless kept themselves at arm's length from 'em…
Gene/Don: the dark heart of assholeishness; thinker of big thoughts
Paul/Glenn: the master of ceremonies; keeps eye on the ball musically
Peter/Randy: skittish, sensitive singer of big hit ballads, been around the block longer than the other guys
Ace/Joe: requires no unpacking
Eric/ Timothy: dependable, happy to be there, doesn't make waves
Bob Kulick/ Bernie Leadon: the former is a longtime associate of Kiss, would have been in the band in place of Ace if he wasn't bald
Vinnie/Felder: drives the two principals nuts for refusing to obey, having made important creative contributions they dislike acknowledging,
This leaves Stuart Smith = Tommy thayer; danny Kortchmar = Bruce Kulick…but what about Eric Singer?
Irving = Bill Aucoin; Geffen = Neil Bogart
So who's the JD Souther of the Kissuverse? Jackson? the jack tempchin?
― veronica moser, Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:42 (ten years ago) link
JD Southern = Desmond Child?
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:47 (ten years ago) link
J.D. Souther = J.D. Souther
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link
"Good Day In Hell"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/trade/covers/EaglesGoodDayInHellBack.jpg
http://youtu.be/x0VuxWbhgdQ
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:27 (ten years ago) link
kinda hellish to listen to right now. but i didn't sleep well last night.
This is wretched. Guitars sound okay, but what's the point when they're playing this?
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link
really digging your photo curation, Mr Seward!
yeah this song is lousy.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link
even their feet are ugly
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
I guess this is where Felder came in
my reaction to the first few seconds was, "This would be better with Walsh" ... then they started singing and it became a good day in hell
― Brad C., Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
Was expecting much more with Felder coming in. "Good Day in Hell" would've been a fine song title for KISS, so there's that for you veronica.
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
i like the KISS analogy.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
btw, a new trend in the youtube clips posted here has begun:
http://i.snag.gy/UMBoy.jpg
Listen youtube, I'm only watching these videos for science, ok?
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
hey, it's our thread's title track at last, and it's a bit of a shitshow. Felder's guitar doesn't really fit in the song: sounds like he's just nosing in wherever he can find space (and even if he can't), esp in the verses.
veronica had a great point that "post-Beatles, many big bands were invested in the notion of all members writing and singing, i.e "the integrity of the band". It's def. true (in Kiss' case, I think Simmons also saw the rock band as a superhero team like the Avengers)& it crystallizes what's weird about the Eagles in this era; there's this seeming need to cover all fan bases--bloozy rock, country, MOR "soul" (see next track)--& it's becoming a schizophrenic mess.
― col, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
on the bootleg cover above, Leadon looks like he's contemplating jumping overboard
― col, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
Foreshadowing!
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
pickers just want to pick all day. not listen to don drone on about whatever the hell don would drone on about back then.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
"Bernie, have you ever read the works of Ralph Waldo Emerson? There's some heavy stuff in there man"
― col, Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
(in Kiss' case, I think Simmons also saw the rock band as a superhero team like the Avengers)
That's true, and Paul Stanley was a Who fanatic, and saw Kiss as modeling themselves after the Who in terms of four distinct personalities.
Then he realized the members of Kiss didn't have personalities, so they all put on makeup.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
then he realized the members of KISS couldn't play their instruments
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
then he realized the members of KISS couldn't actually write music
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
I mean... now that I think about it kiss is by far the least major classic rock band
There whole schtick is so perfect kinda cheap and lousy a band you'd win for knocking over 3 concrete milk bottles at a carnival
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
Can you be a classic rock band if only Americans like you (and maybe some Japanese)?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
(I suppose so, I imagine some people over here think of Status Quo as a "classic rock band")
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
on classic rock radio, Kiss consists of only 3 songs: "Rock n Roll All Nite," "Hard Luck Woman" & maybe "Love Gun" or "Beth." even "I was Made for Loving You" is a bit too disco, as I've rarely heard it (this evidence is based on radio heard on drives to my folks in Connecticut)
― col, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
I'd say Classic Rock plays
• Rock and Roll All Night• Detroit Rock City• I Love It Loud• Beth• Deuce and either I Was Made for Lovin' You or Lick It Up, depending on how hairy the balls are on that particular station.
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
I've never heard Hard Luck Woman on a classic rock station. I had never heard it even until that Garth Brooks cover.
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
i think the Garth cover promoted it. never used to hear it back in the day but now have twice in past six months or so
― col, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
& yes "Lick It Up" is a latter-day Kiss "standard"
― col, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
when i worked overnights at the supermarket in connecticut in the early 90's the classic rock station I95 refused to play Nirvana or any other grunge and would just play Kiss's "Domino" over and over.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
Haha.
I used to work with this guy who drove me nuts. Loved Classic Rock. Hated "grunge". "Why's it all gotta sound different? I don't care if it sounds the same, rock and roll was good 20 years ago and it's good today."
And, because he enjoyed music that "sounds the same", his favorite all-time classic rock and roll band was ......
.....
THE RAMONES.
Like I said, dude drove me nuts with his weird logic.
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
I was such a huge kiss fan when I was 7. I had the cards, the magazines, the marvel comic special (still remember the panel where Paul shoots "pure hate" at the bad guy from his eye.) It took almost a year for me to actually hear their music. God what a disappointment. This was supposed to be music made by demons and spacemen, this lame boogie shit?
I think it wasn't until Soul Discharge that I actually heard music that sounded like kiss should have..,
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
Lol "soul discharge" how gross!
― special beet service (La Lechera), Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Soul Discharge, swayin' to the music....
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
frey and the unseen head of henley look like they're debating whether or not to push him.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
What KISS should've sounded like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R2zIsnuAlw
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
oh sorry no embeds dang my bad.
I've listened to way too much Classic Rock Radio in my time, and the only Kiss songs I've heard with any regularity down here are "Rock'n'Roll All Night" and "Beth" (with the former appearing in three versions: the original, the Alive take, and the 80s remix). When it's 'deep cut' time, they'll drag out "Love Gun", "Detroit Rock City" or "Lick It Up". It's kind of amazing to think that at the time they were on the same popularity level as Zep, the Eagles etc. and now you'll hear two or three ZZ Top or Bad Company songs for every Kiss number on the air.
"Good Day In Hell": I like this, even singled it out for praise over on the other thread. Admittedly it's not that far removed from the anonymous Frey-sparked barband boogies of the first two albums, but what sets this apart is it's slightly more refined. Felder's slide is better. There's no pointless coda. I even detect a bit of an Outlaw Country influence (a Waylon cover would have killed). It's filler, but better filler.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
Only Kiss I've ever heard on "classic rock" radio was "Rock 'n' Roll All Night." And that's on three different stations in the northeast and two in the midwest. I remember hearing "Detroit Rock City" and "Beth" when they were new, and "Lick It Up" was all over MTV for some reason.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
Kiss - too dumb for classic rock radio.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
i had so much fun one night watching different live video clips of gene's "famous" blood bass solos during Kiss shows. there is nothing like watching someone who had never learned how to play the bass play the bass for 30 years. so bizarre. on the other hand, some of them are inadvertent Boredoms-level dementia noise solos.
― scott seward, Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
Haha, otm re: Boredoms.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 19 September 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
Jon Lewis, my brother. I was a huge kiss fan as a kid, too. Card carrying member of the Kiss Army, Kiss lunchbox, plastic Paul Stanley mask/smock for Halloween K-2nd grade, Kiss COLORFORMS ffs. I had Mormon cousins who refused to enter my bedroom because of my Kiss posters. Went to my long-suffering grandparents' house to watch Kiss Meets the Phantom of the Park because they could pick up NBC and we couldn't.
Terrible music, but great marketing to appeal to weirdo kids who liked demons and spacemen.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
I think Kiss was to me what NKTOB was or Justin Bieber is to some kids, which just makes me smdh at all of us, really.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
man phantom of the park, the night that aired was a BIG FUCKING DEAL.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
when i do my eagles fanfic there's gonna be an awesome moment where Frey is like "how about a dose of... PURE HATE" and the death beams fly out of his eyes
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
LOL
It was SUCH a big fucking deal! Sometimes I think I will never be that excited about anything again and it makes me a little sad. But the again if I got that excited about something now, I'd probably have a heart attack.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
things that could make me that excited again
about to see Scott Walker perform livewaiting on delivery of a rly nice guitarbeing on a plane to new zealandgetting hired to write comic book scripts for a living again
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
It may be obvious, but I don't immediately get this?
http://i.snag.gy/6OTFS.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
He had a chainsaw he'd bring on tour w him for fucking up hotel rooms. It was a gift to him from Azoff.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
Walsh was Pharaoh Sanders to Keith Moon's John Coltrane of fucking up hotel rooms.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
Note the line about tearing out the walls in hotels in "Life's Been Good".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 September 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
it's his least appealing trait to me, pretty fucking infantile
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
Ahhhhh, right.
― pplains, Thursday, 19 September 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
http://gawker.com/woman-stabs-roommate-for-refusing-to-stop-listening-to-1335462841
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
"Best Of My Love"
http://images.45cat.com/the-eagles-usa-best-of-my-love-asylum-2.jpg
http://youtu.be/z_M_27ciAKI
― scott seward, Friday, 20 September 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
best song on the album if you ask me. its so good you wonder what the hell happened.
sad that my picture didn't show up. damn internet.
here's another one.
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0812/eagles_facial_b_g_mp_576.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 20 September 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
i mean its understated and tasteful and the arrangement fits so well and its performed in a no big deal way and its just really pretty and it flows nicely. i guess we should give all the cedit to souther. because almost everything else on this album doesn't fit that description.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 September 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link
/eagles_facial_b_g_mp_576.jpg
― zvookster, Friday, 20 September 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link
The setting is gorgeous. Insofar as I've a problem with it at all, it's with Henley's singing. Normally I want him on vocals, but not here - feels like it could've done with somebody cleaner for once to have everything bed down just so.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 September 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
thought that pic was Randy Newman for a sec
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 20 September 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link
you would not BELIEVE the ad i had to sit through to listen to this song in order to give it some kind of second chance and even so, i'll say that it's among the least offensive hits but i would much rather hear linda ronstadt singing it because don henley makes me sick
― special beet service (La Lechera), Friday, 20 September 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link
e.g. http://vimeo.com/64433918
― Marlo Poco (Phil D.), Friday, 20 September 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
http://images.45cat.com/the-eagles-best-of-my-love-1974-s.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 20 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/FWL0iuI.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 20 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
Haha, fuck that guy. Just wanted to see if I could break his amazing hotlinking security.
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― pplains, Friday, 20 September 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
good job!
― scott seward, Friday, 20 September 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
i love this... especially compared to the terrible stuff that got us here.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 September 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
If this album had just this track and the first three, it'd make a blinding EP. The middle stretch is extraordinary in its shitness.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 September 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/IkBLyCT.jpg
Thanks, Scott.
― pplains, Friday, 20 September 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
Sorry, but this Henley -esque display of sensitivity makes me puke.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
This is another one that's really fun to sing.
― carl agatha, Friday, 20 September 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
This is obviously better than most Eagles tracks, but I am listening with great trepidation, knowing it's going to be stuck in my head for the next several hours ... it's hard to convey just how overplayed this track was on 70s radio
― Brad C., Friday, 20 September 2013 15:54 (ten years ago) link
This was the single that REALLY blew them up, right?
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 September 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
I was listening to this song when one of my coworkers called me and I answered the phone by crooning the chorus to her so thanks for helping to improve my working relationships, Eagles!
― carl agatha, Friday, 20 September 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
Normally I want him on vocals, but not here - feels like it could've done with somebody cleaner for once to have everything bed down just so.
this.
and, yeah, this was their real pop breakthrough, their first #1. they had only barely scratched the top 10 before this with "witchy woman," which got to #9.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 20 September 2013 17:50 (ten years ago) link
Aside from the the Xmas song, every single from here up to "Seven Bridges Road" went top ten (and that one went Top 25 while the former hit Top 20).
"The Best of My Love": This has been sonic wallpaper to me for so long. Upon actually listening to it with some care, it's a pleasant, well-crafted tune; you really get a sense of their influence on late '70s-early '80s Mainstream Country. Very Urban Cowboy, and JD Souther as well. You can probably still score his 70s stuff (three solo albums and two SHF Band lps) on vinyl for a worthwhile $5-10 bucks total.
Crowe:
THE BEST OF MY LOVEDON: A lot of the lyrics were actually written in Dan Tana’s at a booth we liked to sit in, on the front side of the bar area. J.D. Souther wrote the bridge and it was perfect. That was the period when there were all these great-looking girls who didn’t really want to have anything to do with us. We were just scruffy new kids who had no calling card. We could be cocky at times — which was really just a front — but we weren’t very sophisticated or confident. We were typical, frustrated, young men. We wanted the girls to like us, but we had all the immature emotions that young men have — jealousy, envy, frustration, lust, insecurity, and the lot. At the same time, however, we were also becoming quite adept at brushing off girls who showed any interest in us. “If you want to be with me, I can’t possibly give you the time of day. I want that girl over there who couldn’t care less if I live or die.” Hence the line in “Desperado”: “You only want the ones that you can’t get.” We knew ourselves even then. Even in our immaturity we had some insight into our flawed little characters [rueful laughter]. Shaw was right — “Youth is wasted on the young.”GLENN: I was playing acoustic guitar one afternoon in Laurel Canyon, and I was trying to figure out a tuning that Joni Mitchell had shown me a couple of days earlier. I got lost and ended up with the guitar tuning for what would later turn out to be “The Best of My Love.”
GLENN: I was playing acoustic guitar one afternoon in Laurel Canyon, and I was trying to figure out a tuning that Joni Mitchell had shown me a couple of days earlier. I got lost and ended up with the guitar tuning for what would later turn out to be “The Best of My Love.”
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
Also in To The Limit, it's reported that Azoff & co. were so pissed that Asylum cut nearly a minute out of the song for a 'radio edit' that they made sure the label's copy of the gold record the song earned had a portion broken off.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
hello FCC! enjoying the assholes complaining about how NYC/Brooklyn is no good now that they're no longer in their 20s on that other forum you and I fuck with?
1. on the crowe notes cited by whoever uptthread, Frey talks about how he uses Joni Mitchell tuning on this cut…(written AT THE SAME TIME as a made man"s post!)
2. One time, Mick Fleetwood or someone else in the FM camp fucked with Stevie by sending a shit-ton of flowers and whatever mystical stuff she would like to her room, with the note "Stevie, the Best of My Love, tonight?" Of course, he later got her pregnant during his "love 'em and lear em" phase.
― veronica moser, Friday, 20 September 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
...and then she wrote "Sara" about the aborted baby, as revealed by the Donster in an 90s interview.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
Shaw was right — “Youth is wasted on the young.”
ugh fuck this creep
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 20 September 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
there is nothing like watching someone who had never learned how to play the bass play the bass for 30 years. so bizarre. on the other hand, some of them are inadvertent Boredoms-level dementia noise solos.
― scott seward, Thursday, September 19, 2013 5:42 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i wld like a grayfolded-like disc of this, pl
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 20 September 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
ha! and yes! and since you are asking me this in the middle of a discussion about the eagles, i will note that here in LA, home of the eagles, i have never heard a single person complain about how much better things used to be. not once. ever.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 20 September 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
It's hard to think critically about this track---it's the sound of my childhood, still stuck in the first floor of my memory (for some reason, I associate it with a shabby steakhouse off the Blue Ridge Parkway that my folks went to on their anniversary)---but I agree that Henley isn't quite the right fit here, though he's by far the best singer in the band.
As much as I've blasted him, and will continue to, this song might've worked better with Frey. Because there's a real callowness in the lyric, sung by a dude who promises "the best" of his love is still reserved for the girl he's leaving (the bottom 40% of his love gets spent elsewhere, one imagines). Sung in Frey's voice, its innate shadiness would've come through stronger; Henley sweetened it out too much. Still, this is the song that broke 'em big; there's a sort of B.C./A.D. Eagles moment with this one and tomorrow's (unless there's a B-side i've forgotten) entry.
― col, Friday, 20 September 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
no non-album b-sides for on the border.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 September 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
yeah, from a quick look at the singles: the Eagles were pretty stingy on non-LP b-sides, huh? there's like one in the whole decade.
― col, Friday, 20 September 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
The Christmas/New Year single is the only other non-lp item from their Imperial Phase.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 September 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
any link to the Henley interview about "Sara"? I've heard this story for years. I hope it's true.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
I forgot to say yesterday, but the key change in Good Day In Hell is disgusting
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 20 September 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
@FCC could that be because people in LA are stupid and shallow? that's not my impression…but that's inevitably what people who have lived there but are now in NYC believe…
Odd that so many of you don't seem to care for Kiss. I have a certain amount of NYC pride in them, as they are indisputably the biggest NYC band ever. I look at them as the Yankess to the Ramone's Mets. I also think they wrote and recorded awesome, well-crafted songs about partying and fucking: alongside Van Halen and Aerosmith, they are part of the Holy Trinity that inspired a bunch of dirtbags to move to the Sunset Strip, fuck chicks, do drugs, look ridiculous and make frequently great songs about partying and fucking. The Eagles, notably, yielded the mantle of dominant SoCal band to VH: you didn't see a bunch of bands in 80s LA evoking them.
It is true that Kiss doesn't have much of footprint on Classic rock radio. On another thread, i spoke of the tendencies of AOR radio in Louisville KY, more or less reflective of mid-south/Mid west culture. Kiss was not played on this format in the early 80s. I think, to programmers in the era that immediately predated "classic rock" and for that matter Clear Channel, Kiss were embarrassing. They were for kids, and also were kinda old-fashioned by 82-83. By that same token, I never ever heard Springsteen, Van Morrison, or Led Zeppelin or in fact the Eagles on the AOR station in Louisville. Those acts were basically gone.
But they did play don Henley. They played John Cougar. They played Journey. They played 38 Spayshul. They played the new singles by the acts that AOR programmers and the consultants I'm sure were on the case knew young southern/midwestern males dug. In many ways, AOR was just the top 40 of guys that were suspicious of black people and what their girlfriends liked. Classic rock radio, which emerged a few years later, is really quite boring relatively speaking.
But in my experience, AOR never fucked with glam metal. they started and stopped with Van Halen. No Motley Crue and no Ratt. Kiss of course hitched their cart to the genre they inspired, and this was reflected by their presence on MTV in the mid '80s. but later, I think, Kiss is still held at arm's length by classic rock radio. which speaks well of Kiss.
I am the king of "good day in hell" thread drift. Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair!
― veronica moser, Friday, 20 September 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
KISS is held at arm's length by classic rock radio because the vast majority of their songs are shitty. those dudes could not write a tune (and they know it!), their playing barely qualifies as "workmanlike" most of the time
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 September 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link
i've never liked Kiss. they may be the only well-known american hard rock band that i don't like! how's that for a distinction? on paper they are the greatest thing on earth. i've said it on here before, an evil fire-breathing bloody kabuki devil comic book band? it can't lose! i'd rather listen to the archies any day of the week. my brother loved Kiss when we were kids. my youngest song went through a Kiss phase that lasted for a while and i think i heard enough Kiss to last me my entire life. i have never owned one of their records either. i think if you loved them when you were a kid you will always kinda love them. i can dig it. i like Ace okay. saw him play in a bar in brewster, ny once pre-comeback tours and he was lots of fun. i like his big hit. but even his big hit is nowhere near as good as the original version of his big hit.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 September 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
as a kid I liked KISS without ever being able to identify their songs on the radio or even tell you what any of their songs were. the music was completely incidental. and you go back and look at their recorded output and it's obvious to see why - their songs suck, they didn't have the hooks or the chops to pull it off.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 September 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
they needed someone like Chinn/Chapmann behind them feeding them tunes, which just didn't happen for whatever reason (greed probably)
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 September 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
naw. I humbly submit that Clear Channel and its discontents care not one single whit, despite various station Id spots proclaiming fealty to notions of enduring quality, etc etc, for the merits of songs. They care about familiarity. I'm sure market research has decreed Kiss' lack of prominence as such.
As to Kiss' musicianship: the only person onboard who you might cast aspersion towards is Peter Criss, who, BTW, did a better job at enacting his band's rhythmic agenda then Henley did for his. Marginally.
― veronica moser, Friday, 20 September 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
I still dig a tiny handful of Kiss songs, and Alive! is a decent record (though ffs, they were not by any stretch "the P-Funk of white rock" that the 1994 Book Of Rock Lists -- or, more specifically, James Bernard -- proclaimed).
I saw them in 1997, thinking it'd be a fun spectacle, and it was. But two songs in, it dawned on me: they don't swing for shit. They're not AC/DC.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 20 September 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
Clear Channel and its discontents care not one single whit, despite various station Id spots proclaiming fealty to notions of enduring quality, etc etc, for the merits of songs. They care about familiarity
not denying this (its definitely true) but the reason KISS songs aren't familiar to most listeners is because their shit isn't actually catchy. "Rock and Roll All Night" is as hook-laden as they got, and that one wears out it's welcome by the end of the first chorus.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 September 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
i like, don't love, kiss and my favorite song of theirs is "beth," which i'm sure makes me suspicious at best and criminally soft at worst, and which also probably explains why i'm here hanging out on an eagles thread instead of, for example, the bunnybrains thread.
@veronica i have no grand theory re people in la vs people in ny except that maybe i'm not hanging around with enough hipsters and media elitists here in the california sun. also, classic rock radio here plays both the eagles and van halen to death, as one might expect. it also plays both boston and the cars to death. go figure.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 20 September 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
I was kinda shocked watching a live clip of their 70s stage show awhile ago at just how leaden they were. I have a dim memory of Simmons willingly copping to their lack of musicianship and songwriting abilities as a factor behind their decision to go so hard with the schtick - they knew they needed something else to get over.
― what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 20 September 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
Why in the hell did I think Kiss was from Boston.
I wasn't getting them confused with Aerosmith? But I could've swore that where Kiss was from.
But they're not. Nowhere in the world does it say Kiss is from Boston except wherever my head was at two minutes ago and for the past 35 years.
― pplains, Friday, 20 September 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
they are soooooo deadly slow and plodding. and not in a cool doom metal slow and plodding way. and they weren't heavy enough! some good talented heavy band should do an album of kiss songs where everything is faster and heavier. i know people have covered a million kiss songs, but one actual good Kiss album with Kiss nowhere near the place would be cool. i always wished that someone would do that with guided by voices too. have a really good rock band with a good singer cover their best and catchiest songs. and i still want willie nelson to do an album of Dead covers. there is still time. would be his biggest album ever. and he could really do them great. i have a lot of ideas...
― scott seward, Friday, 20 September 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
Not to distract from the Kiss Konversation, but I just wanted to share that in order to balance out this thread, I ordered and now have received today the first six (count 'em) Michael Nesmith albums on CD.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link
I'm thinking right now, which would sound better/worse: an album of KISS songs covered by the Eagles, or an album of Eagles songs covered by KISS? Either could be so cringeworthy it would be great......
Back to "Best Of My Love". Nothing to sneer at here; this is a great song and the Eagles' best. Nice guitar picking, a strong melody, gorgeous pedal steel guitar throughout courtesy of Bernie Leadon, and lyrics that adroitly capture those three words I've heard (and said) too many times - "this isn't working":
"I'm going back in time and it's a sweet dreamIt was a quiet night, and i would be alright, if i could go on sleepingBut every morning i wake and worry what's gonna happen todayYou see it your way, i see it mine, but we both see it slippin' away"
I can't help but imagine an alternate reality where, as with the previous album Desperado, the label issued two flop singles (in this case "Already Gone" which barely cracked the top 40 and "James Dean" which fell far short), and decided to quit there, not bothering to release "Best Of My Love" as a third single just as they didn't "Desperado". They wouldn't have had their first of five chart-toppers, and maybe the Eagles would have shortly thereafter fell into obscurity, or at least a band that couldn't fill stadiums at $150/seat at reunion concerts.
― Lee626, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:22 (ten years ago) link
Apparently John Lees released BOML as a single before the Eagles did. I like his vocals better than Henley's on this song, but don't care for the arrangement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlX-mfrFGPw
― Lee626, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link
oops I tried to post that as a link but it imbedded anyway
― Lee626, Saturday, 21 September 2013 00:28 (ten years ago) link
its funny i love barclay james harvest (much more than eagles) and there is nothing better about that version to me.
don't stress about embeds. it was just a suggestion. i think if i keep 80+ eagles songs or whatever it is off of this thread we should be readable for the forseeable future.
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:00 (ten years ago) link
This is an Eagles song even Ronnie Van Zant or Merle Haggard couldn't fix. Flat, motionless, as dynamic as unflavored gum.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
But they did play don Henley. They played John Cougar. They played Journey. They played 38 Spayshul.
Every one of these people wrote at least six songs better than KISS.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link
Well. Not Journey.
live on stage with souther in 1977. not that it really matters that he's there too much.
http://youtu.be/vAoNKK32FiU
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link
totally Journey! Journey wrote some great songs. i would totally be into a Journey discography party! that would be fun.
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link
been listening a lot to the 3rd burritos record s/t.it's such the blueprint for these dudes even factoring in the obvious leadon connection, way more than the parsons-era stuffpretty slept on record, bernie such a tasty player
― am.spurious.ofttimes (buzza), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
Xpost Journey would be weird 'cause the first couple weeks would be their fusion albums.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Friday, September 20, 2013 9:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
fuckin a
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:22 (ten years ago) link
You guys have fun with that.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
JD's voice still sounds good. from 2011:
http://youtu.be/Dy8yB9NfIQM
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link
seeing as peter criss came up, i really like this picture of him & ny dolls drummer jerry nolan.http://www.thingsfrommythings.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/PeteJerry.jpg
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 21 September 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link
"One Of These Nights"
http://i2.listal.com/image/5210652/700full.jpg
http://youtu.be/T9ozGsAtY28
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 11:43 (ten years ago) link
best intro ever in the history of intros.
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 11:44 (ten years ago) link
now see here's ground zero for the Eagles we love to hate. Henley hones his persona.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 September 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link
kinda love this song. ultimate camaro rock.
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 11:55 (ten years ago) link
http://www.dankoreproductions.com/wp-content/themes/danko/images/static-headers/1974-1977-camaro-z-28.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 11:56 (ten years ago) link
Eagles Disco! How nuts it must have been to have heard this for the first time in '75. To go from "Best of My Love" to this. That said, I'm not too crazy about this one. Decent enough groove, but the guys once again prove that while they have excellent taste in influences, they were still streets behind in emulating them.
cameron:
ONE OF THESE NIGHTSDON: We’d started to explore our love of rhythm & blues and the Gamble & Huff records that came out of Philadelphia. We were also huge fans of Al Green. Glenn was the catalyst for this song. I think he sat down with a guitar and started playing that rhythm part [sings it]. It was another song from the “Lyin’ Eyes” house. We like to call it our “satanic country-rock period” [laughs]. Because it was a dark time, both politically and musically, in America. There was turmoil in Washington and disco music was starting to take off. We thought, “Well, how can we write something with that flavor, with that kind of beat, and still have the dangerous guitars?” We wanted to capture the spirit of the times. So, perched up there on top of that hill, almost all night, every night, we had a big, phantasmagorical scene which included songwriting and, uh — research. Lots of research.The song is a great showcase for high harmony. Meisner hit some notes that only dogs could hear. We also started getting into harmony parts on guitars that simulated horn riffs. It was a cool record.GLENN: We had Don Henley’s voice, which allowed us to go in a more soulful direction, which made me exceedingly happy. There’s no doubt in my mind that One Of These Nights was the most fluid and “painless” album we ever made. A lot of things came together on One Of These Nights — our love of the studio, the dramatic improvement in Don’s and my songwriting. We made a quantum leap with “One Of These Nights.” It was a breakthrough song. It is my favorite Eagles record. If I ever had to pick one, it wouldn’t be “Hotel California”; it wouldn’t be “Take It Easy.” For me, it would be “One Of These Nights.”
The song is a great showcase for high harmony. Meisner hit some notes that only dogs could hear. We also started getting into harmony parts on guitars that simulated horn riffs. It was a cool record.
GLENN: We had Don Henley’s voice, which allowed us to go in a more soulful direction, which made me exceedingly happy. There’s no doubt in my mind that One Of These Nights was the most fluid and “painless” album we ever made. A lot of things came together on One Of These Nights — our love of the studio, the dramatic improvement in Don’s and my songwriting. We made a quantum leap with “One Of These Nights.” It was a breakthrough song. It is my favorite Eagles record. If I ever had to pick one, it wouldn’t be “Hotel California”; it wouldn’t be “Take It Easy.” For me, it would be “One Of These Nights.”
I'm gonna start calling all the bad stuff I do "research".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:04 (ten years ago) link
Roach otm, this is their best track
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
if i were in that camero i'd be playing air guitar on the first two notes of that guitar solo.
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link
the whole arrangement is so tight. the major sevenths behind the "oooohs" on that bridge part. where did this thing come from?
― Thus Sang Freud, Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link
for a long time I thought "Nights" was the Eagles hearing "Jive Talkin'" and firing this off in response (esp given the falsetto harmonies in the outro), but as it turns out it pre-dates any of the '75 Bee Gees records. So working in parallel courses w/the Gibbs, it seems.
it's basically "Son of 'Witchy Woman'," much like how "Already Gone" was a snottier update of "take it easy." Build on the original hit, play it hard and give it even more hooks. This is a monster: ultimate Camaro rock as scott said.
― col, Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link
yt commenter: "This verse may possibly be some of the best songwriting in history. I feel so cheated as my generation seem to think songwriting means saying "bitch", "dollar" and for some reason "jagger" over and over until you have a hit. This here is the real stuff!"
verse in question is the "searching for the daughter of the devil himself" w
― col, Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link
I'm with Henley here: when they started to fuck with R&B, that's when they started to get truly great. This record is fucking exquisite, and there were more in this vein to come, all of which I treasure.
I like how he hints there that disco is of a piece with the Nixon end times. I'm sure at the time he and Frey would have said that disco en masse is worse than Kiss or the New York Dolls. But his groove here is leagues better than when he tried to rock via "James dean" or "Already Gone." He mentions gamble and huff, and we will get to their version of Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes in…the middle of next week? I guess the producer whose name is too difficult to remember how to spell got the flavor that Randy wanted from the dismissive Johns.
― veronica moser, Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link
poor Leadon looking like a guy captured and brainwashed by some knock-off Aleister Crowley cult in the above photo
― col, Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link
when i played this on the porch this morning rufus called it "70's afro-funk" and he's never even seen a picture of don henley.
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link
great song, arrangement, harmony vocals; a tasteful sub-Dan guitar solo; does not wear out its welcome at 4:53; totally different style and feel from the equally-solid BOML ... this is almost enough to make me forget how torturous the filler has been
― Brad C., Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
That into is straight up genius
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 21 September 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
that is one long damn outro/fadeout. 90 seconds plus!
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:29 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I thought it was flabby at first but there's quite a lot going on in there - high harmonies, disco guitars and such
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
My favorite Eagles track. Love this song. It gets stuck in my head for days and I don't mind it being there at all.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 21 September 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
it's a super-groovy catchy song...that kiiiinda sounds like it's sung by a stalker
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
i think I'll use this to build my case that Henley was the Zodiac killer
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
but in all seriousness it's pretty fantastic. I love singing along to the high parts
Another of their best tracks, and unlike BOML, Henley's lead vocal sounds ideal for this song. I've heard this for three decades and never noticed the R&B/disco-ness of it (or what sounds like Bee Gees influence, though as mentioned earlier this (very) slightly predates their disco/falsetto phase).
― Lee626, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, there was a thread a few months back about when rock went disco, and I'd never thought about it that way either 'til then
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 21 September 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Saturday, September 21, 2013 7:44 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
One reason I always hated this song is because the beginning sounded like a lazy rip of "Come Together." Listening again, they're not that similar, but I can't get excited about this song. The groove is alright, and even at his worst Henley's singing doesn't annoy me, but it's just so stiff. This is probably the first thing I'd reach for if someone asked what stiff playing sounds like.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 21 September 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
basically when i HEAR that intro i think its the best intro ever. always sounds very cool to me. i love how the whole thing sounds.
― scott seward, Saturday, 21 September 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
yeah, it's a great headphones song, lotsa layers
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
cannot deal with this song
― special beet service (La Lechera), Saturday, 21 September 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
:(
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
now and forever
― pplains, Sunday, 22 September 2013 04:08 (ten years ago) link
"Too Many Hands"
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1209/play_g_felder_gb1_576.jpg
http://youtu.be/YIq1RDwvRSM
― scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link
tablas by Don Henley
― scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2013 12:01 (ten years ago) link
Fake Randy kinda my favorite Eagle.
http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-news/randy-meisner-imposter-still-conning-super-bowl-vegas-020409.html
― scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2013 12:07 (ten years ago) link
http://www.sfweekly.com/1998-04-29/news/fake-it-to-the-limit/
― scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2013 12:11 (ten years ago) link
This feels like a Skynyrd rip, but I can't pin down exactly which Skynyrd song they're ripping off. The tablas are a nice touch, in that they defensively shout, "Hey! We're ambitious! L-look!....um...tablas!"
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 22 September 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
As we're walking, I walked up very close behind and said "give me my ticket". He reached in to his pocket and handed me my ticket......GOT IT!
Ticket to the limit
― pplains, Sunday, 22 September 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
anyway, kinda reminds me of mark gormley for some reason.
― pplains, Sunday, 22 September 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
the Eagles couldn't sequence their records worth a damn: let's follow "Nights" with a second-rate piece of Randy clunk ("we are doing what is best/for our future") and just derail any momentum we've got. the story of Fake Randy Meisner is eight times more interesting than this track. Outro is okay: Felder's riffs and even Henley-on-tablas.
― col, Sunday, 22 September 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
I consistently confuse these guys. Leadon? Meisner? Felder? I'm lost in a fog of Anglo-ness.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 September 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
The only thing missing from this band of Randy, Dons and Glenn was a guy named Gary.
― pplains, Sunday, 22 September 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
For the first 10 seconds or so I could pretend I was listening to Fleetwood Mac, but Randy's range is not quite as high as Stevie's
― Brad C., Sunday, 22 September 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
moon spoon night right blah blahrandy's lyrics are always so, idk, nowhere. like a shitty steve miller
nice guitar though
i don't mind it as album filler it's just kind of a boring comedown from that great opener
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
i didn't know randy meisner existed before this thread
― special beet service (La Lechera), Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
"One of These Nights" also marks the exciting shift of Eagles LPs named after the first track of side 1, rather than the last track of side 1.
― col, Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
Randy's the token Poco dude
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
yeah for me this is a quantum leap (been listening all along; wish I had my dad's Eagles vinyl, but spotify is doing the trick ok).....in my head, though, the production is pushed more in the direction of disco/funk stones...that falsetto! it's so wrong, but so right--like some guy has Maurice Williams at knifepoint...
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
Randy's the token Poco dude dog
― Lee626, Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
let's get to know our eagles. Bernie Leadon was a world-class banjo player who was in the critically acclaimed country-rock supergroups Dillard & Clark and the Flying Burrito Brothers. he's a bluegrass guy who could play anything. banjo, guitar, mandolin, etc. not a rock star type.
http://www.nashvilleledger.com/Editorial_Images/10017.jpg
http://i510.photobucket.com/albums/s348/chilca0001/Bernie%20Leadon/bernie4.jpg
Randy Meisner moved to california and ended up in the band Poco. They kicked him out of the band and replaced him with a dog. he joined Eagles and played bass and sang on one HUGE Eagles song and then he quit the band because he HATED touring. also not a rock star type.
http://hollywoodagogo.com/Randy%20Meisner%20young.jpg
Don Felder was a guitarist from Florida who had been in bands with Bernie Leadon and Stephen Stills and he kicked around the country as a guitarist until he ended up in california playing with david blue and the eagles got to know him via his old pal Bernie and when they needed some extra guitar work he did some studio time and ended up in the band and kinda cemented their trademark double guitar camarorock signature sound.
http://images.gibson.com/Lifestyle/English/aaFeaturesImages2010/don-felder_Doubleneck.jpg
frey and henley you know. joe walsh you know. timothy b. schmit came later replacing randy meisner on bass just as he had replaced randy in poco after randy got booted from poco.
― scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
that was for alfred.
― scott seward, Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
yeah randy seemed really not cut out for the rockin life, he had a family & the whole nine when he joined the eagles, right?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
whoops--one song behind.....(listens): yeah, today's kinda sucks.
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
eagles had a good poco depth chart
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 September 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
I don't mind this one too much - it's not more than filler, but it's decent filler with a bit of drive and good guitars, as opposed to the slow plodders on earlier albums.
The vocal though, he sounds so uptight having to strain for every note.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 22 September 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
I like the music on this one, but good grief those are some dopey cliche-fest lyrics.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 22 September 2013 23:07 (ten years ago) link
"Hollywood Waltz"
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/eagles1974plane.jpg
http://youtu.be/8EmrLcf1Ylo
― scott seward, Monday, 23 September 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link
so NOT what i am gonna play in my Camaro. tarfumes is gonna have a field day with the cymbal attack at the end which is kinda ???????
― scott seward, Monday, 23 September 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link
Such a great photo!
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 September 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link
"synthesizer by Albhy Galuten"
Albhy Galuten is a Grammy Award-winning American record producer, composer, musician, orchestrator and technology executive.He produced 18 number 1 singles with songs and albums selling over 100,000,000 copies. He has won two Grammies, a Dramalogue award (theatre) and a BMI award (as a songwriter).His record productions include the soundtracks Saturday Night Fever, the theme song "Grease" and songs or albums for Jellyfish, Olivia Newton-John, Barbra Streisand (Guilty), Dionne Warwick (Heartbreaker), Andy Gibb, Kenny Rogers and Dolly Parton ("Islands in the Stream"), Samantha Sang ("Emotion"), Diana Ross ("Chain Reaction"), Eric Clapton ("Knockin' on Heaven's Door"), Titanic Love Affair and Bee Gees (nine number one songs).Galuten also contributed playing or orchestration skills to recording artists Wishbone Ash, Bill Wyman, Eric Clapton, Rod Stewart, Aretha Franklin, Eagles, Kenny Loggins, Petula Clark and No Doubt (director of paradigm).He is currently a technology executive at Sony and has been an executive at Universal Music Group (Senior Vice President, Advanced Technology) and Ion (Vice President, New Technology). In his various roles as a technology executive Galuten has filed patents, developed corporate technology strategy, negotiated technology deals and worked in the development of standards including the Content Reference Forum (Chairman) and the Coral Consortium (Vice President).As an inventor, Galuten is noted for having created the first commercial drum loop ("Stayin' Alive", Bee Gees), the enhanced CD and patents on content distribution and resolution, on customer care and on User Interface design.
― scott seward, Monday, 23 September 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link
the more you know...
"hey, i wonder who invented the first commercial drum loop."
"oh, that would have been Albhy Galuten."
― scott seward, Monday, 23 September 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
I know him as the Bee Gees' keyboardist.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2013 12:42 (ten years ago) link
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Monday, 23 September 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link
or "Sympathy For a Groupie." playing in 3/4 is a means for the Eagles to swing even less than usual. Henley's voice isn't really suited for this: again, Frey's weaselly tone would've been a better fit, maybe. & what is going on with the cymbals? You can imagine a coked-up Henley in the booth with Syzmczyk: "more on the high end! more on the high end!"
― col, Monday, 23 September 2013 13:06 (ten years ago) link
i am a sucker for a waltz & I mostly like it but yeah, what is going in with the cymbals. maybe a kitten got into the studio?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 September 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
!
Due to the death of drummer Dennis Byron's mother in the middle of the song's sessions, the group first looked for a replacement. The shortage of qualified drummers in this area of France prompted the group to try a drum machine—yet it did not offer satisfactory results. After listening to the drum track of the already-recorded "Night Fever", the group and producer Albhy Galuten selected two bars from that track, re-recorded them as a recurrent loop on a separate tape, and proceeded with sessions for "Stayin' Alive". This accounts for the unchanging rhythm throughout the song.As a joke, the group listed the drummer as "Bernard Lupe" (a takeoff on session drummer Bernard Purdie). Mr. Lupe became a highly sought-after drummer—until it was discovered that he did not exist.
As a joke, the group listed the drummer as "Bernard Lupe" (a takeoff on session drummer Bernard Purdie). Mr. Lupe became a highly sought-after drummer—until it was discovered that he did not exist.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Ha, that's hilarious.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 September 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
hahaha! they should call that move the lupe shuffle
i didn't hate this song, and kinda liked the cymbal bonanza but i like cymbals a lot
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Frey would've been better. Eagles already have these bad songs about poor young girls who've been had by so many men that by the time you hear "she's sleeping like an angel" or whatever, you could picture Frey standing in the doorway, shaking his head and rejoining the party while Henley's vibe is more "she's sleeping like an angel ... at least she is right now" and then the door closes.
― pplains, Monday, 23 September 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
omigod get ready guys
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/ln/20130425/250413_sundance_screening_eagles_3/glenn-frey-eagles-sundance-london-history-of-the_3628311.jpg
a head that looks like it's been carved out of meat
― col, Monday, 23 September 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
He looks like a football coach.
― carl agatha, Monday, 23 September 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
http://www.williamkwolfrum.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/TorJohnson.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/jm07.jpg
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theuncool.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/freyazofffogelberg.jpg
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02551/walsh-henley_2551714b.jpg
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
Lol has felder been digitally redacted from that pic? He was certainly in the band then
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
he's got howard dean little ones
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
man, i forgot they wore team jackets sometimes. Frey channeling Michael McDonald in this period
― col, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey slowly turning into Rocky Dennis in that pic.
― Marlo Poco (Phil D.), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
(sidenote to Scott: freshly minted Jimmie Spheeris fan here! via Ned Doheny reviews)
― Paul, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
poor Tim Schmidt: "I've made it: big leagues at last!" next year they break up.
― col, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
Couldn't find a page that wasn't promoting the documentary with that photo.
DId learn, unsurprisingly, that Frey sure loved that jacket.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/05/02/article-2318549-1991E1B6000005DC-647_634x429.jpg
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/GFreyStevie.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/qq285/atthetroubadour/GlennBaseball_zps1286045c.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
Ha
http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~markowit/interviews/gf/oui/gfnfa.jpg
Frey sure loved that jacket
if only fake randy meisner could've gotten his hands on one of those jackets!
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
i was gonna save this one, but its too good...
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/eaglesOOTNSB03.jpg
― scott seward, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
http://www.eaglesband.com/store/product/eagles-tour-2013-varsity-jacket
^ Just $245. Almost as much as a concert ticket.
― pplains, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
But more entertaining and animated than an Eagles concert.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
Also lol
http://25.media.tumblr.com/e5741c756584ff452558036a3d189be8/tumblr_mq8gacdxvP1s93947o1_500.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
omg henley totally looks like bob pollard there
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
daaamn Henley looks like Princess Di!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
thought that was felder.
http://s3.stliq.com/c/m/5/5a/20721102_don-felder-ex-eagles-pubblica-un-album-dopo-29-anni-0.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cGTCZQfXKWA/TeUADA2woFI/AAAAAAAAEhw/krv7lGoR7qw/s1600/CountryBearsHenley.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
I hope these men got HIV tests before getting married.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 September 2013 18:44 (ten years ago) link
You can't catch it from bears, you ursa phobe.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, September 23, 2013 6:35 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM!!!
― carl agatha, Monday, 23 September 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
you sure it's not frey who's looking like bob pollard there?
http://img.comc.com/zoom/bb173365-f655-4af1-9f2c-6fbee5c03f9d.jpg
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 23 September 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
"The Hollywood Waltz": Yeah, this would have been a better Glenn song. Nice ornamental mandolin from Bernie. WTF cymbal crashes from the Donster. Overall just a weigh station to the majesty of tomorrow's track.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 September 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
Yeah tomorrow makes up for a lot.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 23 September 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
i have no idea what it could bethere's majesty in the eagles?
― special beet service (La Lechera), Monday, 23 September 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
I read ahead on wikipedia, and I can honestly say I am intrigued.
It feels wrong to say that about the Eagles, though.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 September 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
i still want your expert take on those crashing cymbals on this song today!
― scott seward, Monday, 23 September 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Thread's lost me I'm afraid. I listened to this one a few times, and nothing. Then I get here to find football players. I'll stick around to see what tomorrow's majesty is, then see how it is from there.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 23 September 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
One hint: don't forget your towel
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Monday, 23 September 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
Don't panic
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 23 September 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
"WHAT? YOU WANT THE CYMBALS HIGHER IN THE MIX? HOW BOUT THAT, HENLEY? DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU?"
― pplains, Monday, 23 September 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, awkward cymbal mix, and Henley is flailing.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 23 September 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
lol upcoming track is a doozy
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 01:32 (ten years ago) link
i've got a fever, and the only cure is more cymbal
― Lee626, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 04:27 (ten years ago) link
Don't Fear The Felder
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 05:22 (ten years ago) link
"Journey Of The Sorcerer"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/lorddalek/Hitchhikers8.jpg
http://youtu.be/MbhAf62wfgE
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
Bernie in space!
― col, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
Had high hopes for this. Turns out it's an instrumental "Convoy" on ludes.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
eagles in the wild, last weekend:
i was in the liquor store, not too long after it opened on sunday. someone turns on the stereo and it's "peaceful easy feeling," really, really loud. after a few seconds, someone cuts in on the store intercom/pa system--"brian, needs to be a little softer. yeah, softer than that."
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
anyone know the back story on this one? Did Frey and Henley play this through gritted teeth, fantasizing about breaking Leadon's banjo over his head, or was everyone on board for this sorta-prog moment?
― col, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
was everyone on board for this sorta-prog moment?
I repeat:
http://www.up-front.org/vintage_richmond/Yes-The_Eagles-Richmond_Coliseum.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link
This song is ridiculous and I think I love it?
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
I would definitely go see that concert, but I would probably skip the opening act. Unless they promised to play an extended jam of JOURNEY OF THE SORCERER.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
I like this, I would never have recognized it as the Eagles. My exposure to "Hitchhiker's Guide" is only indirect, but this still sounds very familiar.
Is it possible this song has been Leadon's biggest revenue stream from his time in the band? His other writing credits are mostly on Desperfiller and I guess he's missed out on most of the reunion $$$?
― Brad C., Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
JOURNEY OF THE SORCERER!!!!!!!!
Oh man. Amazing.
If Stephen King doesn't use this in the TV movie adaptation of the Dark Tower, he is missing out on a sublime opportunity.
xp okay I didn't know about the Hitchhiker's Guide connection. I guess I am not the only one to figure out what this song is good for.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
Felder indicates in his book that no, Frey and Henley were not into this. IIRC leadon hired a bunch of session folks and dubbed them the something or other orchestra. It's on the back of the album.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
it was a sad day for my anglophile punk nerd teenage self to learn that the theme of "Hitchhikers" was by the fucking Eagles
― col, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
from wiki: The Royal Martian Orchestra - strings on "Journey of the Sorcerer"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:20 (ten years ago) link
I can get with this one. It's not prog though, not really, other than the title and the folky banjo bits. What it is is a spaghetti western theme - unfortunately not an especially memorable one, but I admire the sweep of the thing. The strings had me lolling at first but on repeat listens it works.
It's so unEagles though, Bitter Creek's the only vaguely similar thing in mood or arrangement so far.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 15:49 (ten years ago) link
This one's pretty amazing: first for being released in the first place; second for the Hitchhiker's Guide; third for being "Space Bluegrass"; and fourth for taking up enough room on the album that we in theory were saved from a couple more Frey/Henley mediocrities in it's place.
According to a RS "Where Are They Now?" piece on Leadon & Meisner circa Long Road Out of Eden, both of them are actually doing pretty good. Leadon pointed out that the first Hits album still sells better annually than most new release best sellers, and figure in that he also still gets a piece of the first four albums (and Meisner has those plus Hotel California and parts of Eagles Live and Hits II).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
Poco did this combination of banjo, strings and pompousness first and far better with "Crazy Eyes"
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
leadon has witchy woman co-write on greatest hits42 mil worldwide I think he's set w/o factoring songwriting credits from first 4 plus other comps
― velko, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
taking up enough room on the album that we in theory were saved from a couple more Frey/Henley mediocrities in it's place.
also for some reason both this song and the one of these nights album art remind me of kansas.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
We haven't paid fealty to the cover art of this LP yet have we. I can't front: despite being the progenitor to rafts of pukey kitsch this album cover slays.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
man Glenn Frey is an A-1 dick.
"I withstood the abuse until I could no longer tolerate it, and stood up for myself," Felder told Rolling Stone in 2008. "Now I feel a huge weight off my shoulders. You know, I admire a band like U2 who share a brotherly love and, despite the money, still care about the music. That was never the case, and never will be, with the Eagles. . . I find it ironic that a band with a name that stands for freedom in America is ruled with iron fists. When you can't even have fun onstage without being accused of pulling focus, it's time to question why you're there. I wasn't willing to do it for the money."
Randy Meisner doesn't share Felder's bitterness. "You're wasting your time thinking about that stuff," he said. "I got a great business manager. When he invests, you make money. I got my house paid off, my wife, two little chihuahuas and tomato plants that are five feet high right now. I'm happy as a clam."
Bernie Leadon has a similar attitude. "When my son was around 12, he asked me if I regretted leaving the band," he says. "I told him if I hadn't done that, I wouldn't have met his mother, and he wouldn't exist. And I wouldn't trade him for anything. I have a lot to be grateful for. Also, when those early albums sell, I still make money. The first Greatest Hits album goes platinum every single year. I get royalties just like it was a new album. In a way, I'm still part of a band that goes platinum every year."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
It's fascinating how Frey and Henley each have so few solo writing credits: it's like they can't be mediocre apart.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
"In a way, I'm still part of a band that goes platinum every year."
seriously, this is pretty cool. even if you did have to hang out with those two doofuses for so long. that's gotta be some real money.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
i mean anyone with a co-write credit probably lives off of eagles money, no? tempchin. souther. jackson has his own money. but take it easy money is probably nothing to sneeze at.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
Royalty statements fascinate me. I suppose it depends on his publishing deal. Does he make enough to pay for a house and not work for the rest of his life?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
It took some doing for them tho:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/73339/songwriters-settle-eagles-royalty-suit
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
haha, well there you go!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Happy for Randy with his chihuahuas.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
at this level, absolutely.
i'm a bit rusty on this, but as a very rough rule, the songwriting royalties from one song on a million selling album are roughly $70,000. so if an album is selling a million copies every freaking year, that's $70,000 every freaking year. if it's a three-way co-write and the writers are dividing the money equally (which is a big if, but only the writers and their lawyers and businesspeople can answer that), that's $23,000 per year from that one song based on sales of that one album. but that's not the only album that song is on, so you're getting royalties from all those other album sales too. and those are only mechanical royalties. if you were a member of your band, you're also getting royalties from all those album sales, separate from your publishing. and you're getting your ascap or bmi money from radio and tv play. and you're getting sync money.
and then there's all those other songs you wrote.
so yeah i'd say the eagles are making him a very good living in 2013.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
so if you wrote 10 songs on a million selling album, that's $700,000?
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
I think that's one of the reasons U2 and R.E.M. credited every song to every band member, just to avoid songwriting problems like this.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
(xp) roughly, yes.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
i like to think that bands like u2 and rem, in addition to being smart in a business sense, do that because they understand that authorship is hazy at best in a band situation. and even if bono or edge or buck or whoever walks in with a perfect, fully-formed song, with all the guitar and bass and drum parts and harmonies carefully laid out before, never to be changed by anyone else, why should he get paid billions of bucks more than everybody else for the rest of his life, when everybody else is spending exactly as much time as he is in the rehearsal space, on the road, etc.? i'm sure, in the end, bono and the edge are getting more money than their rhythm section anyway, but i think songwriting credits and the accompanying opportunities for wealth are a great way for musicians to be rewarded for their work no matter who came up with the words.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
I dunno if they've changed their deal, but iirc Paul McGuinness got publishing dough. That's the way did things until the early twenties. No songwriting credit, obviously, and he contributed nothing, but the generosity acknowledged his integral part.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
I seem to remember Stipe crediting certain R.E.M. songs ("Driver 8" was one) entirely to Bill Berry, admitting that no one else in the band contributed. And yet they all ended up super rich and not dicks to each other.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
it's where some 1980s bands had the benefit of history: they saw how much publishing, etc. became toxic for everyone from the Beatles to Creedence to the Band, and saw that they could preempt this problem at the start by crediting all songs to everyone.
― col, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
remember reading in keith's book how he thought bill wyman was so dumb because he left before the big tours and that's where they made so much money and he definitely wasn't getting huge royalty checks with almost zero songwriting credits to his name.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
Mick & Keith weren't exactly sticklers for proper songwriting credit, though. Just ask Billy Preson, Mick Taylor, or Wyman, who supposedly came up with the riff for "Jumpin' Jack Flash."
Woody Payne made out pretty well from "Love In Vain," though.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
And the story goes that "Ruby Tuesday" was a Brian Jones melody.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
What kind of falling-out did the Doors have in 1969 to begin crediting writers individually, I wonder? First coupla albums everything was just "The Doors" (or Willie Dixon or Brecht/Weill)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
to his credit, Jagger has at least said he had no hand in writing tune or melody of "Ruby Tuesday."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
Xpost iirc, the Doors thing was that Krieger wrote most of The Soft Parade and Jim (briefly) wanted people to know who did what.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
wow that was like stringy cheez goo slopped all over a perfectly decent spare banjo/drums tune and then at 5:30 i started to kinda like it! the last minute is good! my feelings about this song are very confusedit's better to know that there were very few eagles on it
I can't front: despite being the progenitor to rafts of pukey kitsch this album cover slays.agree, esp how the goat head/horns looks like a uterus
― special beet service (La Lechera), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
album cover hints at a level of coolness that even this mostly-ok eagles album cannot possibly deliver
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
journey of the sorcerer is good fun; the strings are such a weird addition, almost turns it into a tv theme song
it was a tv theme!
― balls, Tuesday, 24 September 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
Which is probably a high crime in Henleyland.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 September 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link
i can only imagine how many people wanted to use dirty laundry as a t.v. theme.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
it WAS used in To Die For.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 00:06 (ten years ago) link
Henley's done surprising amount of film work (exclusive tracks in Fast Times..., Vision Quest, er, Leap of Faith). He even gets litigious when you don't want to use his music:
LAWSUIT Don Henley is suing Paramount Pictures, claiming that it reneged on a deal to pay him $1 million (and $25,000 in studio costs) to record a song for the studio's upcoming Ashley Judd/Tommy Lee Jones film ''Double Jeopardy.'' According to Variety, Henley maintains that he struck up an oral agreement with a Paramount executive in July for the tune, which was also to appear on the ex-Eagle's next solo record. However, he says that after he wrote the ballad ''Taking You Home,'' the studio opted to go with a different song and maintained that its deal with Henley wasn't final. The singer's lawsuit claims, ''Paramount is trying to avoid its obligations under the agreement because Paramount's marketing department changed the marketing plans for the movie, deciding to try to sell it as an action/adventure movie, rather than a 'relationship' movie, so that a ballad was no longer appropriate as a focus for the marketing.'' Despite Henley's verbiage, a Paramount rep had no comment.
(from a '99 EW news column--other stories include Martin Lawrence going into a coma, Oliver Stone going to rehab, the announcement of the '99 Family Values lineup, and Janine Turner signing on to a Harold Ramis comedy pilot for HBO. Ah, 1999!)
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link
This story is trending. Was disappointed it wasn't about Glenn Frey getting aggro. Was has this thread done to me?
http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/Wildlife/2013/0924/Oh-deer%21-Eagle-kills-deer-in-startling-glimpse-of-alpha-bird-behavior
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 02:54 (ten years ago) link
don feldeer
― buzza, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
My Eagles sighting of the week, if not the month...
My 30th high school reunion was last weekend - the first event was Friday night in downtown Claremont and as me and my gf walked through town we heard "that opening" coming out of one of the restaurant patios. Sure enough, a dude I can only describe as Parrothead Charlie Daniels was covering "Hotel California" with all of the gusto of a drunk redneck biker. I'll give him a little credit - the glop of reverb he put on his vocals and on the backing track (basic rhythm via some tablet I couldn't ID) gave it a vague Suicide-feeling, but his howling was strictly unintentional. Plus I fucking hate that snappy sound that all modern acoustics-with-built-in-mics seem to make.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 03:39 (ten years ago) link
Not every member gets the same songwriting royalties in U2 though do they? No matter what the songwriting credits say.
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 07:58 (ten years ago) link
Bono and the Edge get more because they write lyrics.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 11:08 (ten years ago) link
Bono lets someone else write lyrics?
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
"Lyin' Eyes"
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/GFreyHCSB01.jpg
http://youtu.be/covmIKXwCeM
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
i feel like almost every single eagles song could be a minute or two shorter. why is this song over 6 minutes long?
oh and as far as U2 goes if i were U2's bass player i think i would be happy to work for a thousand bucks a week plus tips. i would do whatever bono told me to do without fail. and i would make bono's bed at night and get him his slippers. because i would be the luckiest man on earth. even luckier than bill wyman!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
Haha, yeah, this (although I think he's a good player).
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
Man I'm way behind
So one of these nights right into that funky song that sounds like bad company trying to be the bee gees.... killer open! Seems like a new Eagles...urban..then that snoozy Hollywood song kills the nice
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
Lol this scorcerer song...goofy
Kinda cool. Would never guess it's the eagles
Bet the A&R loved that
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
Confession: Lyin Eyes is one of my favorites
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
There's a great bit in the Dixie Chicks' "Shut Up and Sing" doc where a couple of them are in the studio with I want to say Chad Smith, Red Hot Chili doofus, who was playing drums on the record (thanks Rick Rubin). They got to talking about money, and Smith says that the RHCP simply share the credits and split the money four ways, and the one or two Dixie Chicks there was like "you can do that?" Like it was a completely foreign, crazy concept.
If you want to bet on longevity, it looks like Coldplay does that, too. And Radiohead. Maybe not coincidentally, the Rubin-produced Chicks record "Taking the Long Way" is the first where they all seem to share equal credit, more or less.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Lyin' Eyes is hella long. It doesn't drag as such, it's more that at some point I find myself thinking man, I've been listening to this forever. I was pleasantly surprised to find them sticking quite well to three minutes on earlier albums, but I guess that's gone now. A lot of verses and choruses here. No telescoping is possible, there's not a word could've been omitted.
It's okay, obviously well-crafted, but kinda static. Those harmonies - and your smiiiiiiiiiiiiiiile - just sit there, like blocks of Perspex.
What's the last line? 'Money can't hide your lyin' eyes?'
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Coldplay's another band might suit a thread like this.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
"Lyin' Eyes" is on the Urban Cowboy soundtrack. It plays in the background in the diner scene when Sissy gets angry at Bud for saying "Hello" to Jerry Hall's character.
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
There's a great bit in the Dixie Chicks' "Shut Up and Sing" doc where a couple of them are in the studio with I want to say Chad Smith, Red Hot Chili doofus, who was playing drums on the record (thanks Rick Rubin).
Yeah, it's Smith. He should be physically barred from access to anything that produces sound. I can't think of a less swinging, less funky drummer in all of music. He makes Henley sound like a brilliant hybrid of Elvin Jones and Clyde Stubblefield.
They got to talking about money, and Smith says that the RHCP simply share the credits and split the money four ways, and the one or two Dixie Chicks there was like "you can do that?" Like it was a completely foreign, crazy concept.
Ha, the Chicks' label rep was probably making a frantic cut-off signal to Smith. Share credit?! What about the tried-and-true label practice of divide-and-conquer?
Maybe not coincidentally, the Rubin-produced Chicks record "Taking the Long Way" is the first where they all seem to share equal credit, more or less.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:45 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I think they mostly used outside writers for their previous records, though. iirc, this was the first one where most/all (?) of the songs were written by the Dixie Chicks themselves.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
yeah, was there a single edit of "Lyin' Eyes"? guess not. there's like nine verses! first chorus isn't until 1:40 in. By the time she's pouring herself a strong one, feels like the song's been playing since 1972.
the last verses, with Henley/Frey giving their lyin' girl an internal monologue, are pretty dire stuff. When Frey sings "same old girl you used to be" it sounds like he really wants to say "bitch."
more cymbal oddness: in the chorus, there's a cymbal crash for every other beat of the first line, then one crash on "and your smile" and that's it. no more cymbal for the rest of the chorus.
― col, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
Not coincidentally, in its wake we now have Natalie Maines solo vs. Court Yard Hounds.
― Marlo Poco (Phil D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
The single version of the song is shortened quite a bit from the album version, removing the entire second verse, the second chorus and four lines in the middle of the third verse. Top 40 Radio in 1975 didn't usually play songs longer than 4 minutes so the runtime on the 45RPM label was listed as 3:58, but the actual playing time was 4:14.
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
ah that makes sense (single edit). I knew this was too long a slog for mid-70s AM radio
"the cheatin' side of town" is one of H/F's sharpest lines, but I wouldn't be surprised if they nicked it from some country song.
― col, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
in the to the limit book, the writer (who's a verrryyy poor stylist, despite the good shit he often unearths) says that the ladies around troub/dan tana's milieu called this song "Lyin' Guys." If not exhibit A, must be exhibit C, D. E. F or G in Don and Glenn's "do as I say, not as I do" cavalcade.
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles were some proto-nice guy/MRA balladeers. City girls manipulating men with their looks, snagging rich beta men to mooch off of while they run across town to bone alpha men, but live their lives drunk, lonely, and miserable, the same old girls they used to be.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
Sleep now honey, it's alrightThere ain't no way to hide your lyin eyes
― special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
you are otm carl
― special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
that whole story about "not being able to get the girls they wanted" made me sick!
why is this song over 6 minutes long?
OTM, still a great song though
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
lyin eyes has been a favorite for a long time, even when I hated them
but this time around I def noticed all the stuff that carl noted...i guess I'd never listened v closely before? i was bummed & a bit annoyed to find out it wasn't just about a sad girl, like oh this about handwavey women in general >:(
i guess I'm learning that THAT more than the harmonies makes it an eagles song :/
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
pl don't make the next one of these abt coldplay i beg you
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
Lyrics are hardly a strongpoint with this mob
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
i couldn't hang with a coldplay thread. i've heard them before...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
it would be kinda fun to do something like radiohead but only if everyone listening wasn't really a radiohead fan. fresh ears. i think i've heard 2 of their albums. and one of those only via videos on mtv.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
but anyway i guess lyin' eyes is the eagles hit i'm least excited to hear if it comes on the radio. maybe because i know for the rest of the day i'm just gonna be randomly singing YOU CAN'T HIIIIIIIIIIIIDE...like a tourette sufferer.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
i picture them all in their chairs onstage, harmonizing up a storm and thinking about their piles of money and women. this thread really made me appreciate tom petty lyrics tbh.
― special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
plus tom petty records have a real cumulative effect. over time. a true body of work. variations on a well-loved theme to be sure but in a positive folk/americana way. they leave me refreshed. eagles remind me of FM car radio and cowboys and the sunset strip and other nostalgic american touchstones but there is also a hint and glimmer of exhaust fumes, the much needed rise of feminism, and venereal disease.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
Eagles are more despicable than Tom Petty, but man. Tom Petty is like ranch and sour cream Ruffles to me. Yeah, you might see me eat one at the Super Bowl party, but I don't seek it out or anything.
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
I don't have any qualms calling Tom Petty a better songwriter, musician, and more interesting person (if that counts).
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
i love the petty.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
"Hey, guys! Have you heard the new Tom Petty record?"
http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/6c/82/06/6c8206749c6bb94472795abe4380bd7a.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
listening to petty is great cuz its like getting a bunch of latter-day byrds albums that were never made. i became such a huge byrds fan later in life so i just love hearing any kinda ersatz byrds. not that tom isn't great in his own right, but he does kinda hits the byrds spot for me.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
I don't think Petty is in the pantheon but he deserves the multiplatinum bucks that the Eagles take for granted.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
i mean i listened to the byrds ever since i was a kid but in my teens and 20's for some reason i thought they were overrated or whatever you think when you are dumb and now i think they were the best american rock band of all time. and tom knows his byrds inside and out.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
“I was working in that music store in Gainesville and like I said, the only way I had to make money was after school I would go teach guitar in this music store. One day this kind of scrawny, scraggly blond-haired kid came in and wanted guitar lessons. I started teaching him guitar and we became friends and I went over to his house a couple of times,” Felder explained.
“He had actually set up a microphone in one of the rooms in his house and he was playing bass in this little band,” Felder said. “He wanted to learn guitar so he could play guitar instead of just bass in the band. So I went over to his house and was hanging around and he would play songs.”
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
http://cbskhitschicago.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/don-felder.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
Really feeling Feldster is becoming my favorite Eagle.
anyone who irritates Frey can't be a terrible person
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
When you're fired from a band of assholes for being an asshole, I've got heart for ya.
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:39 (ten years ago) link
tom petty could give the eagles a master class in saying "honey" without sounding like a total dick
― special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
The message of Petty's body of work: I won't back down; don't push me around = conservativeThe message of the Eagles' body of work: don't you touch our loot; aren't we hot, you dumb bitches = reactionary
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
i just think of it this way: working for tom petty would be pretty cool! you'd have to be on your toes cuz he's a real pro and demands the best from his employees, but you'd want to give him your best just to see that fucked up grin. plus, i'll bet you'd get great christmas bonuses. working for don henley, on the other hand, would possibly be the worst job on earth and every day you would go home and take extra long showers and scrub and scrub and the dirt still...won't...come...OFF. in a nutshell.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
The message of Petty's body of work: I won't back down; don't push me around = conservative
Unions love to play "I Won't Back Down" at rallies, fwiw.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
(Personally I think they should embrace "Invincible" by Pat Benetar for this purpose.)
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
"The message of the Eagles' body of work: don't you touch our loot; aren't we hot, you dumb bitches = reactionary"
just add a touch of Henleyite politics: "we are America: America is depraved and awful."
― col, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
― carl agatha,
and with the power of convictionTHERE IS NO SACRIFICE
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
See??? Perfect.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Love this look, including the rat tail
https://skitch-img.s3.amazonaws.com/20090110-2en7xbh2hbfjb1xtitffaw8jr.preview.jpg
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
"Lyin' Eyes": Mandolin on on the final verses! Their craftsmanship is improving because this doesn't feel like a 6-minute song. And their lyrical abilities are getting better, or at least their finding less cliched ways to tsk-tsk those mean LA broads.
Simon Frith once called this a perfect pop song. Like "Best of My Love" before it, this song would have a heavy influence on late '70s-early '80s contemporary Country.
From the Director of We Bought A Zoo:
LYIN’ EYESDON: “Lyin’ Eyes” is one of the songs written when Glenn and I were roommates in a house we rented up in Trousdale. It was built in 1942 by the actress Dorothy Lamour. Glenn and I lived at opposite ends of the house and we actually converted a music room to a full-on recording studio. The house was located at the highest point on the hill and we had a 360-degree panorama. In the daytime, we could see snowcapped peaks to the east and the blue Pacific to the west. At night, the twinkling lights of the city below were breathtaking. The place had a couple of nicknames — “the House With the Million Dollar View” and “The Eagles’ Nest,” of course. We had some great times up there. As for “Lyin’ Eyes,” Glenn’s pretty much responsible for that track and for the title, the choruses. I helped out with the verses and perhaps with the melody. It’s really Glenn’s baby.GLENN: The house was up on Briarcrest Lane. That’s where we wrote “One Of These Nights,” “Lyin’ Eyes,” “Take It To The Limit,” “After The Thrill Is Gone,” and a couple of other tunes for the One Of These Nights album. But “Lyin’ Eyes” — the story had always been there. I don’t want to say it wrote itself, but once we started working on it, there were no sticking points. LYrics just kept coming out, and that’s not always the way songs get written. I think songwriting is a lot like pushing a boulder up a hill. I’d love to get the legal pad for “Lyin’ Eyes” again, because I think there were verses we didn’t use.
GLENN: The house was up on Briarcrest Lane. That’s where we wrote “One Of These Nights,” “Lyin’ Eyes,” “Take It To The Limit,” “After The Thrill Is Gone,” and a couple of other tunes for the One Of These Nights album. But “Lyin’ Eyes” — the story had always been there. I don’t want to say it wrote itself, but once we started working on it, there were no sticking points. LYrics just kept coming out, and that’s not always the way songs get written. I think songwriting is a lot like pushing a boulder up a hill. I’d love to get the legal pad for “Lyin’ Eyes” again, because I think there were verses we didn’t use.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
"We had some great times up there."
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
"I’d love to get the legal pad for “Lyin’ Eyes” again, because I think there were verses we didn’t use."
*more shudders*
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
"The place had a couple of nicknames — “the House With the Million Dollar View"
that's not a nickname, that a line you dropped at bars trying to pick up women with lyin' eyes, henley
― col, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
OK I loathe this song. I need a bath. Ugh.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
and “The Eagles’ Nest,” of course.
Of course.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/jwm8KO8.png
"We wrote songs a lot because the TV reception was shitty for some reason. The girls all called it 'The Tower House,' but I don't know why. Maybe because we were 'towering' over all other acts like Firefall and Poco."
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
I'm gonna play That Petrol Emotion for the rest of the afternoon.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
Glenn:"We used to climb that tower every night. It used to be off-limits 'cause some drunk roadie fell off. He went right down the middle, smacking his head on every beam, man. I hear it doesn't hurt after the first couple though. Autopsy said he had one beer."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
Glenn: We used to climb that tower every night. It used to be off-limits 'cause some drunk roadie fell off. He went right down the middle, smacking his head on every beam, man. I hear it doesn't hurt after the first couple though. Autopsy said he had one beer.
Don: A pussy.
Glenn: Well, yeah.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
Jeez, those two. You're right, a thread for nice guys like Coldplay would be no fun; we need to take on Phil Spector or someone.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
FYI: Kansas have 14 albums and i only know, like, 3 Kansas songs. that might be a rough one though...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
Don: Anyway. That's how we came up with "The Last Resort".
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link
Could do worse
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
Don: That's America: you think you can hang with the boys and you end up fucking yourself in the ass. So that's what "The Long Run" is about.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
Skynyrd might be a good one (up to the plane crash, that is). Relative to the Eagles, they have the inverse proportion of duds to great stuff. About 70 songs or so, give or take demos/alternate takes.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
I would rather hear the worst pre-crash Skynyrd song on repeat all day than hear "Lyin' Eyes" one more time
― Brad C., Wednesday, 25 September 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
yeah, part of me kinda likes the thankless task nature of this thread. skynyrd would be too much of a treat. maybe we should have a nomination thread after this. if anyone really wants to do another one. what if we did elton john: A Single Man up to Sleeping With The Past. roughly ten years in hell. i probably know like one song. 11 albums i've never heard. that might be thankless enough.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
That's a great idea!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
Good point re: Skynyrd.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
Skynyrd would be great
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
Nah I had wilderness years Elton in mind!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
I think these threads are probably more fun/interesting with artists whose catalogs seem like turds from a distance, but closer inspection reveals gummi bears within said turds. Skynyrd would be all gummi bears, no turd.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
i can't imagine ever submitting myself to this againdnw turds
― special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
THere are a lot of Skynyrd haters on ILM, at least there used to be.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
I've picked up about six good tracks from this thread that I'd never've heard otherwise. I'll have enough for an alternative Greatest Hits by the time we're through. It's worth it imo.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles are a unique case:
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
If we weren't all of a particular age, Guns N Roses would be fabulous for this.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
There's plenty of 'vs.' in this band: all of them wrote and sang, had different styles/strengths/weaknesses to debate over.
This especially. I don't know how I'd handle an Aerosmith thread, knowing that there wasn't going to be any "Journey of the Sorcerer" coming up to break it up a bit.
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
i just thought elton might be good cuz he was one of the biggest pop stars ever and hey wait a minute here's 11 albums in a row that nobody remembers at all.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Exactly!
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
i'm down with an Elton in the Wilderness thread, because I also have no idea what's on any of those records except the few radio hits.
thread guaranteed to drive anyone participating in it insane: Chicago, song by song I through XVII.
― col, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
Wow. OTM.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
actually Elton had a lot of radio hits in the eighties!
It's the album tracks that scare me.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
"'25 or Six To Four' What is respectively the amount of suicides and how many survivors after the Chicago listening thread is over?"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/21/Carnac.jpg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:09 (ten years ago) link
chicago seconded!
or, rather, II'ed.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
Why stop at XVII?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
Congestive heart failure.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
"Why stop at XVII?"
the last Cetera album. end of an epoch (I know this because a college roommate of mine loved Chicago, and would go off on the vast inferiority of Chicagos 18 through whatever in hell # they were at in 1992)
― col, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
i would do chicago. literally. i would do everyone in chicago. but yeah i would do that. someone else has to post 400 chicago songs though.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
Timothy B Schmidt should have replaced Cetera in Chicago
― buzza, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
ii would do chicago. literally. i would do everyone in chicago
keep it in your pants, sailor
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
I think I can speak on behalf of my city when I say that Chicago would do you back, scott.
The first however many regional ILX Chicago threads were named after Chicago albums, until we ran out of albums.
I'm not sure what other band would entice me back into a thread like this, but I'm not entirely sure why I decided to go along for this Eagles ride, either.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
JOURNEY OF THE SORCERER made it 100% worthwhile, though, so I am not complaining.
Gah, next thing you know someone will suggest Journey.
Skynyrd way too good for this game. Likewise, say, ZZ Top. Chicago/Elton ... I know nothing about those acts. Billy Joel could be fun ....
Really, the Eagles are some weird exception, massively popular (thanks to the hits collection and reunion) yet sitting on a trove of deep cuts because people only listen to the hits, because there are a lot of them and really that is enough.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Maybe Steve Miller band.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
we could do Kiss after all the Kiss talk. that would be excruciating enough for me.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
kiss is gd for britishes imho, ie they are not v. well known here at all (two top ten singles, two top ten albums, nothing higher than #4)
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
The British already had Slade, and we Yanks will be forever poorer for not accepting them with open arms.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
idk, the technical chops are a big part of why the eagles are so good for doing this - even their worst songs are bad despite something good going on in the background. If Kiss are as amateurish as you all say, that thread'd be a real grind
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
"We did it all for the glory of love"- everyone still alive at the end of a Chicago torture experiment.
― special beet service (La Lechera), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link
KISS is a good'un.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
just try and remember who the hell is in chicago. you thought you had problems with eagles...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link
look awaybaby look away
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
baby what a big surprise will always be my fave chicago tune i think? i always liked it when i was a kid cuz it reminded me of the beatles.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
Kiss sucks. Too uniform, I think. It'd be like doing the Ramones.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:09 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I was just thinking about this yesterday, since Chicago's coming to town in November! The dj, introducing "Beginnings," said, "Just imagine how this'll sound at Proctor's, with those great acoustics, and the horns, wow, it'll be amazing!" The only remaining original members are the horns and the keyboardist. Cetera's been out for a while, the drummer was fired in the 90s, and the original guitarist (of whom Hendrix was supposedly a fan) accidentally killed himself in front of his wife and a few friends after demonstrating that the clip in the gun he was playing with was empty, and thus, the gun was safe. "See?" he said, pointing it at his head and pulling the trigger. There was a bullet in the chamber.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
Steely Dan could be good. A lot of meat on that animal.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
I mean, I wouldn't consider myself a Chicago fan by any stretch, but this shit is all-time:http://youtu.be/4PvN7ujfj2w
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
Also http://youtu.be/hRu3NFKBkt0
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
everyone already drools all over steely dan on ilm though.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Steely Dan is like film's house band.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
i don't think i've ever listened to a chicago album. i'm more of a chase guy. or blood sweat & tears.
i actually think three dog night would be perfect! a zillion top ten hits and NOBODY knows their other songs at all. people don't even remember half of their top ten hits.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
The band registered 21 Billboard Top 40 hits (with three hitting number one) between 1969 and 1975. It helped introduce mainstream audiences to the work of many songwriters, including Paul Williams, Hoyt Axton, Laura Nyro, Harry Nilsson, Randy Newman, and Leo Sayer.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
Three Dog Night covered a Danny Whitten song!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
one of the biggest - i mean REALLY big - pop/rock bands in history and they are basically down to the one bullfrog song as far as most people are concerned.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
"I believe we can Three Dog Night..."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
Three Dog Night would be pretty interesting.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
accidentally killed himself in front of his wife and a few friends after demonstrating that the clip in the gun he was playing with was empty, and thus, the gun was safe. "See?" he said, pointing it at his head and pulling the trigger. There was a bullet in the chamber.
This is beyond fucked up. David Foster Wallace footnoted anecdote fucked up.
If I were his wife, I think I would get stuck in a loop of "this can't really have happened, no it happened, I have to do something ot make it happen, it can't really have happened" and then have to spend some (all) my time under third party observation. It is just too cruel.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
Fwiw, Kath's wife later spent many years in a relationship with Kiefer Sutherland.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
"GUN! GET DOWN! Oh, sorry, honey, I'm just running lines for this new show called '24' that I'm auditioning for."
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link
oh no lol
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
Three Dog Night would be very educational.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
KISS are the obv follow up here, only problem is much larger catalog though i guess you could restrict it to everything up to the unmasking
― balls, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
If you do a KISS thread, you should charge everyone $19.99 a day to participate.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 23:39 (ten years ago) link
http://www.thedailyrock.com/wp-content/uploads/gene-simmons.jpg
Even aside from being a similar age I think Billy Joel is the nearest thing to a follow up thread
lot of deep cuts, critical reputation based on hits, having a lot of hits, genre experiments away from the piano man stuff
Of course this could pretty much be Elton as well. Joel feels very similar to the Eagles though in terms of his following/familarity in USvs.UK
I'm not sure Three Dog Night did anything in the UK apart from the big hit
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
― balls, Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:31 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The thing with Kiss is that it's a pretty predictable trajectory until The Elder, and that's not even as left-field as the Eagles banjo martian song.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
matters get pretty streamlined from this point on in the Eagles career iirc
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 September 2013 23:50 (ten years ago) link
oh man you know what though i don't know if i could handle months of gene simmons pictures...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 25 September 2013 23:51 (ten years ago) link
KISS' songs just suck too much: a thread of this sort would be soul killing, far beyond even Chicago, which at least has a "decline and fall of jazz fusion" arc. even Joel would be preferable, as Joel can be weird at least.
― col, Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:37 (ten years ago) link
A Joel thread would need to include the Hassles and Attila!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:39 (ten years ago) link
anyhow this future speculation shouldn't distract us from the excitement that Randy Meisner's million-dollar moment is upon us at last
― col, Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
Oh God, don't tease me.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:49 (ten years ago) link
Billy Joel - To go from James Taylor troubadour to 70s FM sensation to 80s new wave and beyond, we could have a real good time.
AND his last album was in 1993. It's not like we have to go on forever here.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:51 (ten years ago) link
Wanna find an artist with a Journey of the Sorcerer up his wizard's sleeve? Allow me to introduce you to a little something-something called "Scandinavian Skies".
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:53 (ten years ago) link
200 pictures of Billy Joel though. Hmmm. Gotta include some of Christie Brinkley and the pug maybe.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
so far I've lost bicuspids and kidneys waiting for one good song on this thread
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
You haven't spotted one song as good as Hard Luck Woman yet?
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
Randy will break yr heart tomorrow, Alfred. if not, there's a Leadon-Patti Davis collab coming up.
― col, Thursday, 26 September 2013 01:01 (ten years ago) link
"Randy Meisner's million-dollar moment" and "Randy will break yr heart tomorrow"… goddamn right…
Hotel california is indeed streamlined, but the Long Run? the weirdest, gacked-to-gills, frequnetly haunting rekkid that our boys did. and, by my estimation, by an enormous margin their best.
I will participate in the Kiss exercise! and it seems, based on that shit upthread that I will be the only one who is involved with this thread that thinks they're great! I daresay some of you may gain an heretofore unimagined appreciation. heaven knows no one HAS to to contribute.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link
how about 15 styx albums. that might be fun. who knows what lurks inside this album...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Styx_-_Cyclorama.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
PLUS, they are another popular band reviled AND beloved and only known for their hits.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
styx isn't bad plus you get some vs and deyoung gives you a truly excellent douchebag. billy joel works really well also, similarities in stature and in douchebaggery w/ eagles and he's dynamic and ambitious enough to keep it interesting which i can't say about kiss that's for sure. plus catalog's really not that daunting. plus videos! yeah i'm strongly in favor of doing joel next.
― balls, Thursday, 26 September 2013 01:49 (ten years ago) link
veronica i like a lot of kiss also
― balls, Thursday, 26 September 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
Styx I'd do for sure. I have a head start as I've already read what's his name's memoir.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link
Joel also seems right. I think I like the eagles more than him! And it's a very instinctive gut dislike.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link
PRESSURE!
― special beet service (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:12 (ten years ago) link
my earliest memory of billy joel is 1977 and hearing just the way you are. its a good memory! hearing it in the car for the first time in nyc. sounded good to me. so, my inital billy joel moment was a positive one. and i liked that album back then too. it had stories. i read the lyrics. i never read lyrics unless it was the beatles. a year later i was transcribing black sabbath lyrics into notebooks while listening to their songs. i got a lot of words wrong.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:30 (ten years ago) link
i bought this 45 when it came out. i didn't buy the album though. a friend of mine had the album.
http://www.8-track-shack.com/images/20101205201205-Untitled-149101202.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:32 (ten years ago) link
that's 13 albums counting Fantasies and Delusions.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:35 (ten years ago) link
wait, does a britisher love a billy joel? does he sell out wembley when he plays there?
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:37 (ten years ago) link
http://i.minus.com/ibm5X3MyEaa5o.gif
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:47 (ten years ago) link
Seems like he'd be right up their alley.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link
I would definitely do a Joel listening thread --- I love a lot of his hits, most of them, but I know almost nothing of album tracks and have visceral hate for River of Dreams etc.
But I'd also be happy with Styx or Chicago
I'm down with anything that has soaring highs and soul-crushing lows, basically
KISS would be v hard on the psyche...after Lick It Up it's all just various flavors of boiled garbage
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:48 (ten years ago) link
Even more than the Eagles, which is saying something, Joel struck me as the middleweight most desperate to prove he could rock.
He couldn't, didn't, and should never have tried.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link
plus Joel has that asshole streak; he just can't help being a dick & judging the whole of humanity almost all the time
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:50 (ten years ago) link
One more quick note about Lyin Eyes: You'd think that Frey, being such the mastermind arranger and all, would be able to keep a song like that under, I dunno, five minutes? six minutes?
He was doing so good with the ol' now-we're-in, now-we're-out, but fails obviously on this one. It just keeps going and going where it could've been another "already gone".
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:51 (ten years ago) link
I hope none of you are blaming Joel for starting any fires.
its true that the only thing worse than being on don henley's payroll would be if you were on billy joel's payroll. i'll bet he goes through a lot of chefs.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
what if you were a waiter or waitress at a restaurant and you went to take a table's order and don henley and glenn frey and billy joel were sitting at the table. with gene simmons. and stephen stills. then what do you do?
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:55 (ten years ago) link
give them your biggest smile and instruct the kitchen staff to 'special sauce' every dish they put out for that table
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:56 (ten years ago) link
Ask for Stills' autograph and quit.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
or: chug all night
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
i'll bet he goes through a lot of chefs.
I think he's actually kept a pretty consistent band throughout his career. I know he only had one drummer up through the early 90s. A decent one, too, Liberty DeVitto, who seemed better than his surroundings. Then he sued Joel for royalties or something.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link
lol xp
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:50 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
If only the whole of humanity had stopped lighting the audience:http://youtu.be/PqY6mXULzpw
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link
comment off that video: is this true? can anyone verify. sounds good...
"He was protecting his fans. This was filmed when he came to the Soviet Union to do a show behind the Iron Curtain. The concert lights were being used by the authorities to pick out audience members that were having too much fun, which is why he was yelling at them."
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link
It is true. I was there.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link
If I was the waiter for that table, I'd say, "Yes, Mr. Joel, writer of 'Just a Fantasy'. Is there anything else I can bring you? It'll be on the house."
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link
I remember some radio DJs talking about it when it happened, but the explanation I heard was that the crew filming the show was lighting the audience. Joel flipped out because supposedly the lights made the audience nervous about being targeted by the police or something.
And those Yamaha electric pianos weigh a fucking TON. Joel was a really strong motherfucker.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
^^ JOEL SMASH!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 September 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
between that and attila, he basically started AND ended his career with his own journey of the sorceror. how perfect is that?
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 26 September 2013 06:55 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 02:37 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah, he's much more popular than kiss or styx or three dog night, here - uptown girl in partic was a massive hit. think him and elton have even played wembley on the same bill together for one gigantic feast of dismal lachrymose guff
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 26 September 2013 08:50 (ten years ago) link
The Piano Man has this, I think. Chicago next if there's anyone left.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 September 2013 08:57 (ten years ago) link
"Take It To The Limit"
http://www.randymeisneronline.com/images/eaglesRS75-03.jpg
http://youtu.be/YwASii2f5c8
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
when i was a kid i thought they were saying take it to the lemon
take itto the lemonone more tiiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIIIme
that's all i have to say about this song
― special beet service (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
Something about the call and response parts e.g. "Nobody seems to care" gets under my skin. Good dog Randy.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:11 (ten years ago) link
monumental. this is the only country-derived tune they done that I adore.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItlY6oIfRVg
herein, randy is a little hoarse on a few notes, but damn if he doesn't knock the realllly high ones out the park: I can see how he would be apprehensive about singing this live, in which case I would think you adjust what you sing to what is achievable. Of course, Don and Glenn probly said "NO! SING IT EXACTLY THE WAY IT IS ON THE CUT!" and this kinda tempo is what Henley can handle…second waltz on the record…
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
This is the only Eagles song I think is truly wonderful, one of those songs that's so good the band themselves doesn't even realize how far beyond the rest of their work it is (like Rush's "Spirit of Radio"). Even Henley's drumming rises to the occasion.
But the Eagles' version isn't the definitive one. This is:http://youtu.be/1r0QteIu_uA
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Oh shit! was I not supposed to embed? fuck! my bad!
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Ha, I almost didn't embed my link because I wanted to make sure that EVERYONE IN THE WORLD LISTEN TO THIS COVER OF "TAKE IT TO THE LIMIT" RIGHT NOW.
I've listened to it like 20 times in the last two days.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link
yeah, this is as close as the Eagles came to soul. As veronica (i think) said a while ago, it starts as a fairly obvious rewrite of "If You Don't Know Me By Now," and Randy's the only one (perhaps literally) who could've sung it: Henley would've made it unbearable. I think it works in part because the one thing the band could do is convey how youthful ambition can putrefy: it's the end of the Eagles as the would-be Byrds, the guys who once loved Gene Clark.
there's a YouTube guitar lesson video where the guy turns the lyric into chord change directions, which become weirdly compelling: "dreams of D minor to F... so F me to the C-way, F it to the G...F it to the G." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiSfkmx9HI8 (starts around 2;25)
― col, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
agh, sorry for the embed
there is a nice version on the folk album by castleberry and dupree. ubiquitous dollar folk album on the east coast. sweet honey in the rock connection, i think. anyway, their version is great. probably my fave eagles song when all is said and done. its just a really good song. don't know if there are any good country covers of it but there should be.
also, this could totally be a Chicago song. mid-70's Chicago.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link
''Hey Frey, where's all the high notes you bullied Randy into hitting every night???''
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
to me, this ain't much to do with gamble and huff: their big harold melvin and the blue notes moment is coming up on HC. this is like a waltz-time, big bucks Nashville production with strings' n shit to me. With the exception of this, I don't much dig their country-derived material.
but yeah, after helming some truly dreadful cuts, Randy done this, his bid for immortality. This record deserves every spin on the radio its had since 1975. Don and Glenn (who introduces it live, groan-inducingly, as "this is my wife's favorite song, about using my black card," hardy-har-har) clearly made it as great as it is, and good for them.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
oh shit they STILL do that patter?? When I had to review their '03 show, Frey introduced it with: "This song is for all the guys whose gals push their credit card limits nyuk nyuk"
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
God they are so gross.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
From Dave Marsh's The Heart of Rock and Soul: the 1001 Greatest Singles Ever Made. "Take It To The Limit" is tied at #830 with Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Lodi" and Irma Thomas' "Wish Someone Would Care":
Annals of Self-Pity.A Crucial theme in pop music generally, latter-day rock and R&B performers have raised feeling sorry for your poor self to the status of an (exceptionally minor) art form. If whining pleases your palate and millions of James Taylor fans suggest that it can, you've arrived at the right review.Irma Thomas's plaint may perhaps be the most justifiable. She was, after all, ripped off not just once but twice, and by two of the best: Otis Redding took her "Ruler of My Heart" and converted it into "Pain In My Heart," an experience that must have been leavened very little by the fact that he distinctly improved upon the original. Then the Rolling Stones took "Time Is On My Side," changed nothing much at all (oh, yeah, the guitar lick -- big deal) and cashed bigger checks than Irma would ever see in her life. Of course, the Stones can take no blame or credit for the angst that motivates "Wish Someone Would Care," since they didn't lift "Time" until a few months after "Wish" hit the Top 20, but Irma could undoubtedly see it coming. Sitting lonely in her living room, muttering to herself about injustice, "wondering how I made it and how it's gonna last," grimacing as she recalls every phony smile she's had to deliver as part of her job (any job -- she could be dishing out donuts), Irma seems most disturbed that nobody really appreciates her pain. A familiar feeling, and not only to pop stars.It's hard to do much with an emotional cliche, but H.B. Barnum doesn't just let it lay there, he tats the story up with gushing strings and a female chorus and portentous bells at the close, so that the full weight of Irma's Sad Sack enervation becomes unmistakable. In this regard, the record lives up to its intentions perfectly, and if you have a taste for this kind of self-immolation (and what critic doesn't?), it's actually almost radiant. The Eagles were to seventies rock stars what Uncle Scrooge was to comic book characters, the richest, most renowned, and nevertheless the most dissatisfied and greediest. Aspiring to be a Great and Artistic Rock Band, they continually foundered on the fact that God -- or the Muses or the Asylum A&R department or whoever the fuck guides these things -- intended them to be a better-than-passable vocal group, sort of the Hollies with mesquite. As a result they became studio perfectionists. Someone once told me that they used to suck lemons to make sure that their pitch stayed steady, a practice which I've never known anyone else to follow but which sure fits with the emotional tenor of their continual pleas to be taken more seriously.Actually, the Eagles were often decent Top 40 fare (although if you ever dare tell anyone I admitted it, I'll deny it) and "Take It To the Limit" is a good example of how their music worked. Its harmonies are country but the orchestration is right out the Elton John handbook, layered on with a trowel and then sluicing on a little more, just to make sure you get the picture.Which is meant to be the Big Picture, the story of a generation's inability to get to grips with its own restless desires, with the cramped horizons of today (ca. 1975) in contrast to the raw, wide-open promises of yesteryear (ca. 1969). I think. It's actually pretty hard to tell, because if the Eagles' arrangements were out of the Elton John handbook, not a bad place to rummage around, as these things go, their lyrics were unfortunately picked up at a Bernie Taupin rummage sale. To be charitable, one would have to call the best of them fuzzily thought out and in the end, after repeated Top 40 immersion, "Take It to the Limit" came to be my favorite mainly because it's the most ludicrous. This song, which wants to desperately to be taken as the heartfelt saga of a wasted generation, winds up summarizing itself in four lines:You can spend all your time makin' moneyYou can spend all your love makin' timeIf it all falls to pieces tomorrowWill you still be mine?I mean, huh? That grab ya? Huh? Huh? How should I know what it means; that was their job and they blew it. But if you've gotta fuck up, do it right and you'll get credit from me. Oh my yes. Meantime, John Fogerty (as always) has a story to tell. It's a tragic tale, set to a chugging rockabilly beat (surprise, surprise -- nice guitar break before the last verse, though) about a guy who's been out playing a circuit of California dives trying to become a star and after a year -- a whole year! -- is ready to quit in disgust. Just because somebody game him a Next Big Thing write up and it didn't pan out with a record deal.What makes "Lodi" even more ridiculous is that John Fogerty and Creedence Clearwater played that lousy circuit for more like a decade and never gave up, never quit. John Fogerty got drafted and still came back to being a musician. Maybe he thought that this was his story, but it sure wasn't:If I only had a dollar, for every song I've sungEvery time I've had to play, while people sat there drunkYou know I'd catch the next train, back to where I liveOh Lord, stuck in Lodi againSure sounds like the Eagles', though.
A Crucial theme in pop music generally, latter-day rock and R&B performers have raised feeling sorry for your poor self to the status of an (exceptionally minor) art form. If whining pleases your palate and millions of James Taylor fans suggest that it can, you've arrived at the right review.
Irma Thomas's plaint may perhaps be the most justifiable. She was, after all, ripped off not just once but twice, and by two of the best: Otis Redding took her "Ruler of My Heart" and converted it into "Pain In My Heart," an experience that must have been leavened very little by the fact that he distinctly improved upon the original. Then the Rolling Stones took "Time Is On My Side," changed nothing much at all (oh, yeah, the guitar lick -- big deal) and cashed bigger checks than Irma would ever see in her life. Of course, the Stones can take no blame or credit for the angst that motivates "Wish Someone Would Care," since they didn't lift "Time" until a few months after "Wish" hit the Top 20, but Irma could undoubtedly see it coming. Sitting lonely in her living room, muttering to herself about injustice, "wondering how I made it and how it's gonna last," grimacing as she recalls every phony smile she's had to deliver as part of her job (any job -- she could be dishing out donuts), Irma seems most disturbed that nobody really appreciates her pain. A familiar feeling, and not only to pop stars.
It's hard to do much with an emotional cliche, but H.B. Barnum doesn't just let it lay there, he tats the story up with gushing strings and a female chorus and portentous bells at the close, so that the full weight of Irma's Sad Sack enervation becomes unmistakable. In this regard, the record lives up to its intentions perfectly, and if you have a taste for this kind of self-immolation (and what critic doesn't?), it's actually almost radiant.
The Eagles were to seventies rock stars what Uncle Scrooge was to comic book characters, the richest, most renowned, and nevertheless the most dissatisfied and greediest. Aspiring to be a Great and Artistic Rock Band, they continually foundered on the fact that God -- or the Muses or the Asylum A&R department or whoever the fuck guides these things -- intended them to be a better-than-passable vocal group, sort of the Hollies with mesquite. As a result they became studio perfectionists. Someone once told me that they used to suck lemons to make sure that their pitch stayed steady, a practice which I've never known anyone else to follow but which sure fits with the emotional tenor of their continual pleas to be taken more seriously.
Actually, the Eagles were often decent Top 40 fare (although if you ever dare tell anyone I admitted it, I'll deny it) and "Take It To the Limit" is a good example of how their music worked. Its harmonies are country but the orchestration is right out the Elton John handbook, layered on with a trowel and then sluicing on a little more, just to make sure you get the picture.
Which is meant to be the Big Picture, the story of a generation's inability to get to grips with its own restless desires, with the cramped horizons of today (ca. 1975) in contrast to the raw, wide-open promises of yesteryear (ca. 1969). I think. It's actually pretty hard to tell, because if the Eagles' arrangements were out of the Elton John handbook, not a bad place to rummage around, as these things go, their lyrics were unfortunately picked up at a Bernie Taupin rummage sale. To be charitable, one would have to call the best of them fuzzily thought out and in the end, after repeated Top 40 immersion, "Take It to the Limit" came to be my favorite mainly because it's the most ludicrous. This song, which wants to desperately to be taken as the heartfelt saga of a wasted generation, winds up summarizing itself in four lines:
You can spend all your time makin' moneyYou can spend all your love makin' timeIf it all falls to pieces tomorrowWill you still be mine?
I mean, huh? That grab ya? Huh? Huh? How should I know what it means; that was their job and they blew it. But if you've gotta fuck up, do it right and you'll get credit from me. Oh my yes.
Meantime, John Fogerty (as always) has a story to tell. It's a tragic tale, set to a chugging rockabilly beat (surprise, surprise -- nice guitar break before the last verse, though) about a guy who's been out playing a circuit of California dives trying to become a star and after a year -- a whole year! -- is ready to quit in disgust. Just because somebody game him a Next Big Thing write up and it didn't pan out with a record deal.
What makes "Lodi" even more ridiculous is that John Fogerty and Creedence Clearwater played that lousy circuit for more like a decade and never gave up, never quit. John Fogerty got drafted and still came back to being a musician. Maybe he thought that this was his story, but it sure wasn't:
If I only had a dollar, for every song I've sungEvery time I've had to play, while people sat there drunkYou know I'd catch the next train, back to where I liveOh Lord, stuck in Lodi again
Sure sounds like the Eagles', though.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
Frey bullying Randy to sing this night after night, "come on, hit the high notes for the faaans, man," is really something else. Randy must've had an ocean's worth of patience, because at some point I'd have thrown Frey out a window.
xp: I recalled that Marsh entry when I heard this again. "lyrics picked up a Bernie Taupin rummage sale" is a great dig.
― col, Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
Maybe less an ocean's worth of patience and more "Man, Frey's being a real assho- WOW that's a big check."
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
Way late but sorry Alfred you're interpreting the entire Petty body of work of one line is total bullshit
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
Also Take it to the Limit is probably my least fav Eagles hit... so ponderous
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
one of many redeeming qualities the eagles possess is that Springsteen's Boswell, thus having the same vile, ethically indefensible/ unconscionable relationship that Stanley Crouch does to Wynton Marsalis, doesn't like them. Or didn't up to the point of writing that book, because I seem to remember that he and Henley probably formed an alliance re: some limousine liberal cause or another. Marsh often seems to fuck with artists who dare challenge Springsteen's various hegemonies, although again maybe landau instructed him to cool it.
—signed,
a guy who drunkenly heckled Marsh at a SxSw panel over his conflicts of interest, which was met by the little detroit tough guy's challenge to "meet me outside and say that to my face."
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
"Take it to the limit one more time" may be the most Eagles lyric written.
"Go as far as possible... again."
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
all the background harmonies/singing remind me of 60's sunshine pop and not country really. i'd really like to know what curt boettcher thought of this song.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
Holy shit that Etta James version. So good.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
i think marsh was just being in character for a critic of that time. or maybe even now! you really aren't supposed to like the eagles if you write about music.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
don't think so, herr seward. being in character as such ain't in marsh's repertoire. his whole thing is personal: "if you do this music I don't like, you're the enemy."
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
Never read/heard Marsh that way at all, not even when he's ranting about the Grateful Dead or Queen.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
― carl agatha, Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:14 AM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Seriously, I could listen to this all day. And have, so far.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
well, Marsh also said he held Neil Young and his Reaganism personally responsible for the death of his father.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
Killing someone's dad is nagl Neil wtf
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
but, to be fair, they were kind of the enemy! even we are treating them like the enemy. they make our skin crawl! two of them anyway. but they had a couple of choice tunes so we are recognizing that. but really anyone from that time could have written that about the eagles back then. don't think marsh was alone.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I can't imagine Marsh was exaggerating to make a point. Writers, especially critics, hardly ever do that.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I mean there have been uh...what like 4 or 5 deep cuts out of this mess that I'm glad I heard, but overall this exercise is not really changing my view of this band much
Such uneven records! For such slick pros they really can't seem to make a solid record
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
Same here. I'm grateful, though, for now I can say I've heard the Eagles' mediocre, undistinguished catalog.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
and i'm not a dave marsh apologist or anything. i never found him that compelling. a big mouth and not my favorite writer to read or opinions to read. i like that one book that chuck was in. the rock & roll confidential report.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
i THINK hotel california and the long run are the strongest records. haven't listened to them in ages.
also: I may be in the minority in preferring The Long Run to anything else: as rancid a final album as Gaucho, and they got their shit together, only nowhere near as sharp as Gaucho.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
ha – I missed scott's post
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
Take It To The Limit - can't deny the craft, it's a good tune and the drumming's nice. I don't like the strings and for once the guitars didn't register at all. The singing's fine, but really I never want to hear this again.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
This is much better than the replacement bassist's moment in the sun. THat's fucking unlistenable.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
Why do you say that, Bill?
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
they are responsible for the two least-eagles-y eagles hits and they might be my two fave tracks! i sense a pattern...
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
i'm still trying to figure out if i agree with spirit of radio being head and shoulders above every other rush song over here though....might take me a minute.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
Actually, I'd say it's neck-and-neck with "Tom Sawyer," or rather it barely noses ahead because Geddy Lee amends the line "glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity" with a "yeah!" that implies he's celebrating said prizes/compromises, which takes it somewhere far beyond what ol' po-faced Peart probably had in mind when he wrote that line.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 14:57 (ten years ago) link
i do love that song but i don't know if i love it any more than i love free will or jacob's ladder on that album. great first side. the second side definitely got neglected by me when i bought that album.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
i still love free will lyrics
Each of usA cell of awarenessImperfect and incompleteGenetic blendsWith uncertain endsOn a fortune hunt that's far too fleet
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
hmm…I seem to be in multiple minorities here: I think Kiss and Rush are totally great, the eagles are great, and that greatness is not canceled out by album filler, and like right honorable Lord above, the Long Run is best they done.
chiefly, my notion of music I like or dislike or viscerally despise or adore beyond measure is more of a good/bad dichotomy, rather than one centered around right/wrong. anyone whose ever made music I dislike is not my enemy.
My guess is that that us ILMers here are a lot lot younger than Marsh and his contemporaries, the Eagles. Marsh (and probly Henley to a significant extent) comes from an ideological standpoint common to boomers upset that the promise of the 1960s did not pan out. He was offended by them as his peers, representing qualities he considered a betrayal in ways that I think most reading this thread cannot sympathize with. Or shouldn't.
For him, Springsteen is RIGHT. So he can be married to Landau's right hand woman, write numerous books about Springsteen, host Springsteen shows on Sirius and thus loudly and often viciously advocate in public and as ostensibly a journalist/writer, a man for whom his household's livelihood depends. This is a conflict of interest any way you shake it. And again, I think any clear reading of his works reveals that everything is personal with this guy.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
We need a Rush track-by-track to get over all the Eagles ickyness.
― 29 facepalms, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
i love rush! or, you know, i did when i was a kid. i don't listen to them too much anymore but when i hear them i like hearing them. maybe an 80's rush listening party. i stopped buying their abums after permanent waves.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
"Geddy Lee amends the line "glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity" with a "yeah!" that implies he's celebrating said prizes/compromises, which takes it somewhere far beyond what ol' po-faced Peart probably had in mind when he wrote that line."
There's a tension between the content and the delivery of this line that kinda summarizes Rush for me, for good or for ill.
― 29 facepalms, Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
― pplains, Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:46 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hard to put my finger on. It's just so damn WIMPY
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:48 (ten years ago) link
― veronica moser, Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:24 AM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He wrote two books about Springsteen, both of which were combined to make a third, which added maybe 50 pages or so. So say he wrote three Springsteen books. I wouldn't call that "numerous."
He's also been pretty critical of Bruce (for supporting Kerry/throwing his lot in with the Democrats, for making middling records). Granted, not nearly as critical as someone outside the circle. But the comparison to Crouch/Marsalis doesn't hold for me.
For one thing, Marsalis is awful, Springsteen isn't. That aside, Crouch and Marsalis essentially conspired to define what "jazz" is and, more importantly, what it isn't (Miles electric is worthless, the avant-garde is pointless, and retracing Miles' 1965-66 steps is the only conceivable way forward). For Marsh/Springsteen to be the equivalent of Crouchsalis, they would have mounted huge anti-hip-hop campaigns and taken over all available outlets discussing the music and shutting down debate across the board, and putting forth the idea that Bruce is the only current rocker worth listening to. That didn't happen.
He's never hidden his connections with Bruce, and trusts that most readers will be able to think critically enough to keep things in perspective.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
Crouchsalis!
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
a mythical two-headed beast...
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
Ha, I wish it was mythical (although I'm actually really looking forward to reading Crouch's Bird bio).
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
there's a third marsh/springsteen book for whatever that's worth: "bruce springsteen on tour: 1968-2005." and none of them will be remembered in time as the definitive springsteen bio. he has been eclipsed in that.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
springsteen autobio a la chronicles would be the best. i really only wanna read stuff from the horse's mouth these days. that's why i loved that tom petty interview book so much. though there is probably a springsteen interview book out there somewhere...
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
dylan interview book is also great.
http://www.amazon.com/Talk-About-Dream-Interviews-Springsteen/dp/1620400723
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
and even a new one that came out this year
http://store.kobobooks.com/en-us/books/Title/TKab0nUpAki6EYyPi1MIdQ
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:22 (ten years ago) link
Tarfumes, i know you are a Who fan and Marsh did a Who book. I kind of loathe Dave Marsh but i liked the book (maybe because i liked the subject matter). You?
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:24 (ten years ago) link
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, September 26, 2013 10:48 AM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
So you're saying that you can't tell me why?
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
I love it. I didn't at first, though. I thought his criticisms of Quadrophenia were off the mark, and my initial impression of the post-Moon years was that Marsh lost interest. But when I went back to it, he gave those years exactly as much coverage as was needed (and probably spent more time on that section than Townshend did on writing those 80s Who songs).
It's really kind of an essential chronicle of how the relationship between artist and audience, particularly concert audiences, changed and decayed into the 70s. Marsh puts the Who's career in its proper sociopolitical context(s), and goes on tangents (e.g., Marxist theories of the avant-garde vis-a-vis what constituted "success" in the UK in the 60s), that I can't imagine any other writer tackling in that way (although it helps that the Who are really the only band that lend themselves to that kind of discussion).
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
― pplains, Thursday, September 26, 2013 12:41 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hahahaha, nice!
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
Agreed, i liked the book as well, though i cant articulate my thoughts nearly as well as you did in that post.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
"This is much better than the replacement bassist's moment in the sun. THat's fucking unlistenable."
That's my second favorite Eagles song!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
Scott there is SO much goodness on post permawaves Rush! And they remastered them to sound less digi-thin now.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
Some insight into Bill Szymczyk's methods:
http://mixonline.com/recording/tracking/classic-tracks-joe-walsh-lifes-been-good//index.html
the song also needed a sound effect for the line “I go to parties sometimes until four/It's hard to leave when you can't find the door,” which is followed by a perfectly timed door closing, done in real time by Vitale by shutting the door to Bayshore's bathroom, with a U87 placed about three feet away and in a nicely resonant hallway.
Dude was a meticulous motherfucker.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
tarfumes will like this. a composer dude came in just now and he was a percussion major at umass and max roach had a master class and he said to everyone in the room: so you're the guys who want to do this for a living? okay, here's your master class: GET A LAWYER.
and that was his master class.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha wow, that's amazing.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, September 26, 2013 1:10 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermaliS
Should have said "unlistenable to me". A big hit, so apparently many people disagree with me (wouldnt be the first time)
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 26 September 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
"He's also been pretty critical of Bruce (for supporting Kerry/throwing his lot in with the Democrats, for making middling records)"
he did? Mr. Tarfumes, can you please point me towards instances of marsh doing these things? I'd really like to see that…
doesn't it seem like Rolling Stone, with no questions asked Springsteen 5 star reviews and covers, is like the JLC? was amused to learn that Crouch, a drummer, got kicked off the bandstand by David Murray or somebody similar during the loft jazz days for not being able to hang, and he was unable to forgive the avant-garde for embarrassing him.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
I'd have to look it up, but I do remember reading an interview with Marsh where he called out Bruce for supporting Kerry. He's made his feelings pretty explicit about where he stands politically, and it's obvious that Bruce doesn't stand in the exact same place; Marsh isn't, and hasn't, made excuses for some of Bruce's questionable affiliations. And in The New Book Of Rock Lists Marsh called Lucky Town/Human Touch "the first failures of his career," and he didn't mean sales-wise.
doesn't it seem like Rolling Stone, with no questions asked Springsteen 5 star reviews and covers, is like the JLC?
Marsh hasn't written for Rolling Stone since 1983 (with the exception of a couple of paragraphs about Patti Smith, I think, in the mid-90s for an anniversary issue or something). He did write a couple of glowing Bruce reviews in RS in the 70s and 1980, though. And so what? It's not like he was propping up shitty records just because his buddy made them (as Crouch has made nearly his life's work).
In thinking about this, though, a better comparison might be the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, on whose voting board Marsh sits. But evidently Marsh's influence is limited: the Grateful Dead and the Eagles are in the Hall, and the MC5 aren't.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
I think Kiss and Rush are totally great,
Haha, you probably won't like this:
"Kiss is not a great band, Kiss was never a great band, Kiss never will be a great band, and I have done my share to keep them off the ballot." -- Dave Marsh
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link
marsh's heart of rock and soul bk is a great 'dipping into' read, and, pre-interweb etc, introduced me to lots of terrific songs i'd never heard before. he writes v. well abt madonna in it. i don't understand why marsh is wrong to see the eagles as being at least emblematic of the great sixties betrayal, or for suggesting that a lot of the values they incarnate - cocaine misogyny, commerce before art, contempt for their fans - suck.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
yeah rrhof vote is like a cross between football and baseball halls of fame. committee determines who is on the ballot then voters decide who actually goes in. that's how you can have rush wait forever and still go in "first ballot".
― balls, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
"Take It To The Limit": Meisner is they only one in the band who could have sung this (and they still do it live? Alf, do you remember who tackled it when you saw them?). Another one that's sonic wallpaper to me. As for Country versions, Waylon & Willie had a hit cover in the '80s; it's not on youtube, so I'll get my Waylon box off the shelf in a minute to review.
Glenn choosing his words carefully for his one-time director:
TAKE IT TO THE LIMITGLENN: I just remember being very happy for Randy. We had tried, unsuccessfully, to get a piece of material for him — or from him — that might be a hit single, or turn into one. I don’t think we ever consciously tried to make a hit single. We finally succeeded with “Take It To The Limit.” That’s the first Eagles single to sell a million copies. It was our first gold single, maybe our only gold single. People always tended to buy our albums instead. We still had hit records, but they wouldn’t sell through as 45s much. We had a lot of #1s, but I know that “Take It To The Limit” was our first gold single. And when Randy would sing it in Japan — it was mass hysteria [laughs].
According to Meisner, he has approached the group's people about singing the song with them at LA-area shows. He never got a response.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
So I've been missing this. I love "Take It Easy." People who think about the actual lyrics in Eagles songs have only themselves to blame.
― _Rudipherous_, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
Alf, do you remember who tackled it when you saw them?).
I cryptically linked to a YouTube above of Frey singing it.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNYBOKDOm9E
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
pretty sure it was Frey
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
thank you, tarfumes. I guess he deserves more credit than I've given him.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
People who think about the actual lyrics in Eagles songs have only themselves to blame.I tend to blame the jerkwads who wrote them, not myself. If I could insert my own lyrics a lot of these songs would be much improved, like Take It to the Lemon.
― Untt (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
Okay, Roach acquits himself better than I thought he would.
I pulled down the Willie & Waylon version and listened. It's pretty nice. No strings. Willie sings most of it. Waylon takes the middle verse, changing a line to "you can spend all your time making love".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
i never really paid too close attention to their lyrics. but i don't in general pay too close attention to lyrics. except for echo & the bunnymen lyrics. genius!
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
c-c-c-cucumberc-c-c-cabbage
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
marsh missed a lot of great bands, and he missed a lot of them for the wrong reasons. i think veronica is onto something with the good/bad vs. right/wrong argument. but his rolling stone record guides were absolutely invaluable to me growing up, and i still sometimes go back to them.
marsh in the 1983 edition of the record guide on the eagles: "that their sexism had curdled into viciousness and that their whining became more and more dominant was irrelevant when their songs were heard one at a time on the radio. taken as an oeuvre, however, these qualities are both unavoidable and utterly unpalatable." i suspect more than a few people here feel something similar.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
i've been playing echo remasters in the store all week and been surprising myself with how many of their songs i know the words too. they are really fun to sing though.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
well yeah that's what i was getting at before. i don't think marsh and people here are that far apart in their views on eagles.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
MOST people here...
Marsh also loved Madonna and "Jam On It."
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 September 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
I think Glenn Frey is the only Detroit guy Marsh wouldn't stan for. In the singles book, he praises Henley's solo career as a great example of "addition by subtraction".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
well…hmm… I guess I don't particularly care if the Henley & Frey are representing misogyny and a curdled, selfish libertinism. or if they were hypocrites. I'm not voting for them, i don't work for them, me being around their music doesn't = being around them individually. I was born in 1971, have long been tired of guys like Marsh and Henley and guys I know pining for the 1960s and how the promise was betrayed, i.e. human nature was not essentially changed. Furthermore, it's not that different when steve Alibini or god knows how many indie rock people are pissed that the 80s are over and younger people are making music that contradicts their unchanging principles. Appreciating different aesthetics is fun. I don't need my ideological viewpoint reinforced.
are the Eagles presenting their asshole views in an interesting, vivid way? do their records sound good in representing their dickish-ness? If I can't abide the views of the Eagles as such, then I can't like NWA. I can't like John Lydon. I can't like GG Allin, I can't like Count Grishnackh, Frank Sinatra, Kells, David Allen Coe…then I can only like Bon Iver and Grizzly Bear.
my favorite song right now is "I Luv this Shit" by a young guy from New Orleans named August Alsina. He talks about treating women cavalierly, doing and selling reckless amounts of drugs and making a lot of money. I don't care that his views are not my own. It's a great song, vividly describing unpleasant unhealthy misogynist shit, in a manner somewhat reminiscent of the Long Run.
― veronica moser, Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
xp Marsh also hated Doug Fieger (had a band in Detroit in the 60s called Sky, was met with indifference, moved to LA to form the Knack).
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
"then I can only like Bon Iver and Grizzly Bear"
little-known, but these guys are actually neo-nazis and they eat babies.
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
"are the Eagles presenting their asshole views in an interesting, vivid way?"
not really!
― scott seward, Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
but i dig them anyway. or at least the hits apparently.
pining for the 1960s and how the promise was betrayed, i.e. human nature was not essentially changed.
I can honestly say I've never read a single word of Marsh that bemoaned the fact that human nature didn't fundamentally change. I don't think human nature has anything to do with the "betrayal" of the "promise" of the "60s."
The Eagles were entitled whiners. None of the other artists you mentioned are/were.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
I always hated the reptition of 'Take It To the Limit', of all the Eagles songs that was the one that annoyed me the most and I would turn it off if it came on the radio.
but i dunno if it's this thread or I'm old & senile or who the fuck knows but I was playing it early in the morning the other day as I drove to work, and jeez, something about sunrise on an empty freeway must have kinda muddled my head or something because I was FEELIN' it all of a suddenlike really, truly FEELIN it. I was kind of embarrassed afterwards, lol
and that Etta version. holy shit. bow down, Randy.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
They put you on a highway and showed you a sign--Take It To The Limit, Veg, One More Time...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 September 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
but, I just did!
gah! fine *gets in car*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
Those highway signs are for large trucks with multiple axles. Most drivers can disregard them.
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
ok wait. so do I or do I not take it to the limit
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
Do it.
Then do it one more time.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 26 September 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Randy would want it that way...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 September 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
OK BUT WHEN DO I STOP. everyone keeps telling me 'one more time'
*cries*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
It's the mobius strip of pleasant southern California country-rock.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
take it to the limit on the highway until you see in the distance a shimmering light
― col, Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:20 (ten years ago) link
Hmm, from which lane should I be in?
― pplains, Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, definitely sounds like the soundtrack to somebody's personal hell. Playing this on tour must have felt like Sisyphus.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
First off, I know this is off topic to the current song, so I apologize. Gotta say I've been following this thread as a lurker and someone who has a lifelong relationship w the Eagles (and solo Henley) yet has never voluntarily listened to one of their records, it's been great reading!
The music.... I don't know. Maybe I hate them on an instinctual level? I've been following this thread for about a month now and only just now listened to "Take It Easy" and "Take It To The Limit". There was no reason to listen to either of them, I'd heard it a million times on the radio, and in my mind I could re-create my favorite parts (and throw in some more cartoonish CCR-style fake southern accents for more fun) and when I got tired of the joke, just throw it aside.
In my memory these songs are pure radio cheese crafted as perfectly idealized cartoons. If The Ramones were in that Star Trek episode "Mirror Mirror", their evil versions would be The Eagles.
This is probably why they sold so many records. They are an archetype for post-psychedelic self-indulgence & social paranoia. That and it is the most indulgent kind of music-due in large part to their maturing drug-fueled lifestyles.
People always bring up 'the death of the 60's' or 'the death of the American dream' as themes the Eagles played with, and they themselves accept that critique because it's certainly part of the Eagles brand that works. What is this dream? Is it different than the dream of easy sex and drugs? Because if not, then the 60's never ended for the Eagles. They were living that dream. Sorry dudes, Manson beat you by almost a decade.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
Btw I did re-listen to some songs, and did enjoy them! Just not as much as when i was a kid.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:58 (ten years ago) link
The EGOS
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 September 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link
Take It... To the Limit! Take It... To the Limit! ooooh yeeeeeeahTake It... To the Limit! waaaaa haaaaaTake It... To the Limit! Take It... To the Limit! Take It... To the Limit! eeeee ooooooTake It... To the Limit! Take It... To the Limit! Take It... To the Limit! weeee heeee haaaaTake It... To the Limit! Take It... To the Limit! hooo aaa oooooOne more time! Can't you feel how hard we're rocking here?
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 September 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
Amazing harmonies, tho
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 27 September 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah the harmonies are a+
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 September 2013 00:13 (ten years ago) link
Furthermore, it's not that different when steve Alibini or god knows how many indie rock people are pissed that the 80s are over and younger people are making music that contradicts their unchanging principles.
Lol Albini does not want it to be the 80s and he spends 50 hours a week recording music by young people
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 September 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link
Like why would he want it to be the 80s when he wasn't well off and highly successful?
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 27 September 2013 00:31 (ten years ago) link
not a good tactic to beat up on the eagles-positive even if u do have important ripostes. hating on the eagles is so unavoidable the thread is constantly bordering on the corny
― zvookster, Friday, 27 September 2013 01:46 (ten years ago) link
"eagles-positive" sounds kinda clinical. "I'm sorry Mrs. Jenkins, your baby has been born...eagles-positive."
― scott seward, Friday, 27 September 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link
I remember having to stay up with my son, what with his chugging all night.
― pplains, Friday, 27 September 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link
"He'll be stricken with life-long obsessions with social commentary, residential addresses, banjos, and wanting to kick Don Felder's ass."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 27 September 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link
"Is there anything we can do for him?"
"Yes, ma'am. You can get over it."
― pplains, Friday, 27 September 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
hahaha
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 27 September 2013 02:16 (ten years ago) link
"thread is constantly bordering on the corny"
yes, on the border, but we only take it to the limit
― col, Friday, 27 September 2013 02:27 (ten years ago) link
love you guys. eagles power 4 ever.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 September 2013 02:43 (ten years ago) link
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 September 2013 02:49 (ten years ago) link
ah i was coming back to amend constantly to occassionally but look, just look what u've done
― zvookster, Friday, 27 September 2013 03:19 (ten years ago) link
Breaking: newborn infant found abandoned on a corner in Winslow Arizona. Police suspect the parents abandoned him after the child was found Eagle-positive
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 September 2013 03:47 (ten years ago) link
Authorities suspected the child to be Eagle-positive after observing it's 'Lyin' Eyes'.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 27 September 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link
rumours abound that the mother was a witchay woman
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 September 2013 05:03 (ten years ago) link
There was no wasted time. The parents must have seen this action as the last resort outside the sad cafe.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 27 September 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link
Tried to gain contact but they were already gone
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 27 September 2013 09:58 (ten years ago) link
"Visions"
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac327/whitcap/DFWP.jpg
http://youtu.be/wXMJ9Q6W8rY
― scott seward, Friday, 27 September 2013 12:52 (ten years ago) link
the songs sucks, but the guitars are cool. so there is that anyway.
Visions, that you stir in my soul Visions, that will never grow old Sweet baby, I had some visions of you If I can't have it all, just a taste will do
Go ahead and live all your fantasies (Don't you ever think about the other side?) Helps you get from where you are To where you want to be (You and me oughta be taking a ride) You do the best you can And you make your mistakes (If you don't like it, you can say that you tried) 'Cause all I have to give is whatever it takes
Play on, El Chingadero, play on Play on, El Chingadero
Dance, angel, dance 'til you wear out your blues (Only thing that's gonna save you now) Take another chance, you got nothing to lose (The boy didn't love you anyhow) Girl, you drive me wild when you do what you do (Something makes me want to take you down) If I can't have it all, just a taste will do Just a taste of you
― scott seward, Friday, 27 September 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link
So if this thread/exercise is demonstrating anything, it's that, yes, the Eagles do sort of quantifiably suck.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 September 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link
A made-up Spanglish word used in a similar fashion to the word thingamajig. The root word in Spanish is chingar, "to fuck".Hey Pete, hand me that there chingadero.
I gotta go to Wal-Mart and buy one of those chingaderos to fix my sink.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
http://books.google.com/books?id=dJpmlFiM1UYC&pg=PA132&lpg=PA132&dq=el+chingadero&source=bl&ots=8BAfoOcLfy&sig=Tklir4o875lU_BCbxTColJ4nJLs&hl=en&sa=X&ei=-YBFUqqQKM3a4AO4rYCoCg&ved=0CEQQ6AEwAzgK#v=onepage&q=el%20chingadero&f=false
― scott seward, Friday, 27 September 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link
"Glenn, I really think I should be the one to sing 'Victim of Love.'"
"Fingers, go listen to 'Visions' again and get back to me."
― col, Friday, 27 September 2013 13:05 (ten years ago) link
I like the bagpipe-like drone they used for the ending. the rest of it: sheesh.
― col, Friday, 27 September 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link
so i find that quote about el chingadero on google books in felder's book and i totally had to tear myself away from reading every page. riveting, i tell you. lots of stuff about one of these nights album.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 September 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I read it in just a couple days.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link
The way he sings vi-i-iii-sions kind of proto vedder
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
Book looks great. Is Felder a good guy? I know little of him.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 27 September 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
Peanut gallery backing vox in this is sooo stupid
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
Felder is basically ok for a rock jerk. A little affirmation-y
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
Most jerks believe in self-help maxims.
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 September 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
Everyone's already said what I was going to say.
• Glenn & Don were right about who should sing "Victim of Love"
• Awesome guitars. This sounds great on an 8-track, I bet.
• Parenthetical statements in rock lyrics always suck.
― pplains, Friday, 27 September 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
So. Who's singing "Visions" in the current line-up then?
― pplains, Friday, 27 September 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
This is a mess, but yeah, the guitars are kind of OK; you can tell it's kind of the prototype for the "Hotel California" outro solos.
Fuck this drum mix AGAIN.
― punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 27 September 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
man this sounds late 70s to me in ways that the eagles themselves never actually did in the late 70s, like if there was a boogie nights ost vol 3 this thing would be lurking on it and you'd be like 'wait where was this' and it'd be during some thomas jane scene. walter egan deep cut. kinda like it!
― balls, Friday, 27 September 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
Is this the closest the Eagles got to being The Doobie Brothers (Johnston-era)? balls otm about the isolated '70s-ness of this track, and as already pointed out, the guitars are the best part.
I got a hardcover copy of Felder's book way back in the Borders' going out of business sale. I guess I should dig it out and finally read the thing.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 27 September 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
Howard Stern's interview with Felder (around when the book was released) is worth tracking down.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 September 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
http://www.marksfriggin.com/news08/7-14.htm#thu
Howard asked Don why they got rid of him if he was capable of writing such a great song. Don said that when the band was first formed the guys had all agreed to be equal members in it. He said that it was still going on when he joined the band. He said that they created the band as a 5 way membership so they all got equal shares. He said that as time went by and the main songs got to be hits, Henley and Frey felt they were more entitled to the money coming in. Don said that he talked to his manager about that and the trouble started in the 90s when he started asking questions. He said that he was only a 1/3 owner at that time because some of the other guys had left the band by then.Don said that the other guys became demons and they took away the fun from the band. Don said that even Glenn Frey and Don Henley were fighting with each other. They were concealing a lot of anger and hate for each other. Howard wondered what could be so bad that they'd hate each other.Gary came in and said that he read the book so he has a good idea about it. He said that he thinks that Don Henley became a song writing machine and even Glenn Frey's songs weren't good enough for the band and that's why there was so much hate between them. Don told Gary that was very well put.Howard asked Don if he ever had any doubts about writing the book. Don said that he didn't really. Howard asked Don about the chicks he was banging back when they were really big. Don said that he used to go to parties where they had tons of women, from wall to wall, just wanting to meet them. Howard asked how long he resisted that stuff. Don said he had a lot of guilt when he was doing it and it was very tough for him. He said that they had nothing to do when they weren't on stage so they were doing drugs, drinking and stuff like that.Howard said that Joe Walsh isn't even a full partner in the Eagles but he must be getting paid well. Don said that's true. He said that he's surprised by that because Joe helped give them that rock and roll image too. Don said that he and Joe would dance around and have fun during some of the songs and Don Henley used to get upset about that so they had to put an end to it. Don said that drove him nuts. He said that he was reprimanded for wearing the wrong color shoes on stage one night.
Don said that the other guys became demons and they took away the fun from the band. Don said that even Glenn Frey and Don Henley were fighting with each other. They were concealing a lot of anger and hate for each other. Howard wondered what could be so bad that they'd hate each other.
Gary came in and said that he read the book so he has a good idea about it. He said that he thinks that Don Henley became a song writing machine and even Glenn Frey's songs weren't good enough for the band and that's why there was so much hate between them. Don told Gary that was very well put.
Howard asked Don if he ever had any doubts about writing the book. Don said that he didn't really. Howard asked Don about the chicks he was banging back when they were really big. Don said that he used to go to parties where they had tons of women, from wall to wall, just wanting to meet them. Howard asked how long he resisted that stuff. Don said he had a lot of guilt when he was doing it and it was very tough for him. He said that they had nothing to do when they weren't on stage so they were doing drugs, drinking and stuff like that.
Howard said that Joe Walsh isn't even a full partner in the Eagles but he must be getting paid well. Don said that's true. He said that he's surprised by that because Joe helped give them that rock and roll image too. Don said that he and Joe would dance around and have fun during some of the songs and Don Henley used to get upset about that so they had to put an end to it. Don said that drove him nuts. He said that he was reprimanded for wearing the wrong color shoes on stage one night.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 September 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
Per Felder, the even steven Eagles Inc. five way split was written up in legally binding form. Pretty brazen, if so, that Azoff, Henley and Frey went ahead and just froze him out later on. But then, Felder did win his settlement.
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Friday, 27 September 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
that Walsh & Felder were cut out of a bigger share despite tangibly contributing to who the Eagles *became* soundwise just drives me insane.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 00:47 (ten years ago) link
An agreement's an agreement, so I definitely take Felder's side.
But let's get one thing straight, as far as the Eagles in the year 2013 A.D. are concerned - Felder's the Mick Taylor of the band. No one's ponying up $250 a ticket to hear him play Hotel California. Like God Himself, Don and Glenn were there in the beginning and they're the ones still running the show today. No one outside those of us who came to this thread today or watched "Heavy Metal" on a VHS tape recorded at SLP even know what Felder sounds like, much less what he ought to be paid.
― pplains, Saturday, 28 September 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
*kicks dirt*
yeah
you're right
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
If only the Eagles had a Charlie Watts to punch the shit out of whoever their Mick Jagger is...
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:09 (ten years ago) link
charlie could hit mick though cuz mick knew that keith wouldn't do anything without charlie. charlie had keith's protection. its all very complicated. eagles had two bullies and some weak hired hands and a completely drunk joe walsh. the bullies ran the show.
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:15 (ten years ago) link
hell, Mick wouldn't do anything without Charlie either. What's striking about every interview of the last 30 years is how Keef and Mick maneuver to make Charlie their foil.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:17 (ten years ago) link
It does give me a good imagined scene of Henley punching his own lights out, eating his own lunch all by himself.
― pplains, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link
More cymbal weirdness. Vocals buried in the mix. Forgettable song, but like the slow guitar fade.
― Lee626, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
It had me interested for a moment until that 'visions of you' line happened and then I was like uggggh this is terrible
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:36 (ten years ago) link
Just heard lyin eyes on the office music feed
― velko, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
did you close your eyes and sing loudly
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
I was in a convo with HR
― velko, Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:45 (ten years ago) link
you didn't answer the question
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 27, 2013 9:17 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Charlie calls the shots more than most would expect. He pretty much determines when and for how long they'll tour. He doesn't enjoy it (apart from the actual performing), so he'll set conditions that he thinks won't/can't be met, and then they are (e.g., only playing x number of shows, being personally guaranteed $x million). And they left the choice of Wyman replacement entirely in Charlie's hands.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 03:57 (ten years ago) link
I find Visions quite strange. Most of it is pretty good but the flaws really suck the life out of it. Take the call-and-response bridges: when they're on a minor chord they're fine, but the major chord is obvious and corny; the lead vocal is fine but gets beached on that stupid stuttery rhythm, the rhythm under the response vocal brings the momentum back, but the response vocal itself is so weak. The overall effect is simply lame.
The guitars are back to sounding great, though the whole structure is a mess so the solos and licks sound dropped in at random instead of taking flight. The intro is good, perhaps because structure isn't a problem there; I like the wag rhyt wander from centre-to-left to make room for the entering lead. The ending is nonsensical though - it's like they heard a Zeppelin record, thought 'we can be like that', then stole completely the wrong bit.
The drums are rubbish. There's a crash on every possible accent, and the turnaround(? idk what else to call it - there's one at 2:28-9) kills the bridge at birth - it's like a dog running away from a post it's tied to.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 11:59 (ten years ago) link
Howard asked Don about the chicks he was banging back when they were really big. Don said that he used to go to parties where they had tons of women, from wall to wall, just wanting to meet them. Howard asked how long he resisted that stuff. Don said he had a lot of guilt when he was doing it and it was very tough for him
ugh this guy
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:17 (ten years ago) link
Wait, that'd be Felder not Henley? Too easy to imagine Henley contriving that situation then whining about it.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link
"After The Thrill Is Gone"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesOOTNSB04.jpg
http://youtu.be/sYi4vYBIh1k
― scott seward, Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:28 (ten years ago) link
Don: We'd wear these funny masks and glasses yet the chicks were unstoppable, man. They couldn't leave us alone.
Glenn: It WAS great pussy.
Don: Well, yeah.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link
Felder: Noooooooo!!!!!!!!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Saturday, 28 September 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
I know this is maudlin levels of cheese but I really like this one
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
Adequate album filler i guess. The lyrics don't jibe with the real lives of the guys who wrote it.
― Lee626, Saturday, 28 September 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
BTW, how the f do you pronounce "Szymczyk"?
― Lee626, Saturday, 28 September 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
i bet it's like simcheck/zimchik or similar?
― Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
I think it should be Su-zim-chik, by my rudimentary Polish, but American rules (or indeed Polish ones) may be different
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
there are no american rules outside of "you must chug all night"
― Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
No wait, might be shim-chik
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:05 (ten years ago) link
The group (or their people) must like this song--it was the one pre-Walsh track added to pad out Hits II. On listening, it sounds like a forecast of where they wanted to go--less oountry, more Pop/lite R & sensitive world-weary lyrics--and where Henley landed in the solo years. Nice guitar solo, but overall this doesn't stick to the ribs.
CC:
AFTER THE THRILL IS GONEDON: “After The Thrill Is Gone” is something of an overlooked song that I think is very good. It’s me and Glenn, working together. He did the verses with a little help from me. I did the bridge. As exciting as the whole Eagles thing was at times, some of the luster was beginning to wear off. We were combining our personal and professional lives in song.GLENN: It’s a sleeper. That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much. There was a lot of double-meaning and a lot of irony. “Any kind of love without passion/Well, that ain’t no kind of lovin’ at all…” — pure Henley.
GLENN: It’s a sleeper. That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much. There was a lot of double-meaning and a lot of irony. “Any kind of love without passion/Well, that ain’t no kind of lovin’ at all…” — pure Henley.
Wasn't "Pure Henley' a real sweet strain of uncut pseudo-intellectual flake?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
That record is a lot of self-examination, hopefully not too much
pure Frey
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
Wasn't 'Pure Frey' room temperature Schiltz & a bong hit?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
We do indeed need to determine the true essence of each Eagle before this thread is done
― Lee626, Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
pure Henley = like eating a tablespoon of cocoa powder
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
DON: We were still writin' good songs.
GLENN: We were still fucking some great pussy.
DON: Well, yeah.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, September 28, 2013 2:05 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I thought so too, but I've only heard it pronounced (by Pete Townshend and John Entwistle) "sim-zik."
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:02 (ten years ago) link
http://i.snag.gy/iuxvh.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
"I gave you seven Eagles, and now you want to give them back!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
and whoa at how this guy turned out.
http://stmedia.startribune.com/images/523*328/04eagles091913.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
jesus christ Hitchens was angry the last year of his life
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 September 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
Pure Henley
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:12 (ten years ago) link
context, if you are a buzzkill http://thisdayineagleshistory.blogspot.com/2011/07/2002-movie-country-bears-featuring-don.html
Also I stumbled on this which is kinda lol but mostly sad
..."I've heard the rumors about Glenn (Frey) and Don (Henley) being jerks, but I always thought that was just coming from people who are jealous of their wealth and fame. I guess I was wrong," says Lyle Givant, who's seen the band in concert "at least 20 times" over the last four decades. "Frey and Henley come across as two guys who have zero regret over how badly they've treated people over the years. It was hard for me to watch this documentary at times because I've loved the band for so long. I'm sure it wasn't the director's intention, but she made Frey and Henley look pretty bad. They clearly still live by the motto that the end justifies the means. If it's supposedly good for the band, screw it if people get hurt."
http://therenodispatch.blogspot.com/2013/02/exclusive-eagles-fans-angered-by-new.html
BREAKING NEWS: HENLEY AND FREY - IT IS SAD, THEY WERE DOUCHEBAGS
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
There's a special place in hell for Glenn Frey. Always has been. He can check out any time he likes, but he can never leave.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
he's just a victim of love
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 September 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
it's a losing propositionbut one you can't refuseit's the politics of contrabandit's the chugglers blues
― balls, Sunday, 29 September 2013 00:25 (ten years ago) link
Who's got the bigger reservation in Hell: Frey or Mike Love? I say the former, 'cause the man needs his hats and weirdos.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 September 2013 03:05 (ten years ago) link
Man, say what you will about Mike Love but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRwPhBLh3hs
― pplains, Sunday, 29 September 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link
mike love is farm league compared those these 2 clowns
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 September 2013 03:21 (ten years ago) link
I dunno the Beach Boys universe is so fucked and tragic compared to a bunch of vapid dicks being dicks to each other.
Murray Wilson is rotting in hell and Frey and Henley don't compare to all that sad wreckage... And I'm not even close, I would hand w Frey or Henley way over Mike Love
― lucille baller (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 29 September 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link
TS: TM or Walden's Pond (TM)
― pplains, Sunday, 29 September 2013 04:03 (ten years ago) link
TS:TM or Chugging all nite (toss up)
Mike beat Glenn to Chug by nine years: http://youtu.be/rDY02aGBTfg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 September 2013 04:31 (ten years ago) link
I like After The Thrill Is Gone; nice guitars, good bass, good tune, reasonable singing. It's not a-grade eagles, but it's high b-grade and that's rare enough to still be a treat.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 September 2013 07:56 (ten years ago) link
"I Wish You Peace"
http://www.bernieleadononline.com/images/BLeadonOOTNSB.jpg
http://youtu.be/aVoOk68T1SI
― scott seward, Sunday, 29 September 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link
farewell, brave cosmic banjo man...
― scott seward, Sunday, 29 September 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link
co-written with Reagan's daughter, ladies and gentlemen
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2013 12:34 (ten years ago) link
ah,Bernie, this is how you leave us? not with oddball stuff like "Bitter Creek" and "Sorcerer" but a collaboration w/ Patti Davis? Aptly described by Henley as "smarmy cocktail music"?
― col, Sunday, 29 September 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
Agreeable smarm, nowhere near eagles reunion album smarm, but yeah. The sorcerer is not in for this one.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 29 September 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
Syrupy to be sure, but after two minutes I thought it was a nice little coda to the album. Then it just kept going into noodlesville.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 29 September 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
Bernie threw us some nice curves, including this one, but yeah this should have been cut at 2:06.
― Lee626, Sunday, 29 September 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
^ This is nice enough; would've been boring for a band who put out actual lounge classics, but The Eagles are not that band. Actually, for a sleazy seventies act, there's not much Rhodes piano on their records, good to have one holding this track together.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 29 September 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
well. at least there's tomorrow's.
― pplains, Sunday, 29 September 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
Patti Davis, Ronald Reagan's daughter, published "Till Human Voices Wake Us" as an e-book. Amazon/Patti DavisPatti Davis, the daughter of Ronald and Nancy Reagan, has penned a new novel, “Till Human Voices Wake Us,” a lesbian love story written in the first person.
― velko, Sunday, 29 September 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
What would be worse -- hanging around the Reagans or Frey-Henley?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
Reagan anecdotes about Erroll Flynn, even if made up > anything Glenn Frey has ever said
― col, Sunday, 29 September 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
1975:
http://www.indecisionforever.com/files/2009/09/thereagans.jpg
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
Michael Reagan looking like Meathead shocker.
― pplains, Sunday, 29 September 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
That may be the worst Ronnie has ever looked.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
wasn't Patti disowned around that time for living in sin with Leadon? (or maybe for this song)
― col, Sunday, 29 September 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
yep
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 29 September 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
"I Wish You Peace" (or, "I Wish I Was Dan Fogelberg"): Their most Easy Listening track yet? Legend has it that Henley & Frey were ticked at Leadon for giving Davis credit. The Rhodes kind of tugs the song into the direction of lite Soul. I'll give it points for keeping the noodly bits to the solo and for having more lyrics were the pointless coda could have been.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 29 September 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
reminds me of a deep 70s beach boys alb cut
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 29 September 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
That country bears image is going to give me nightmares.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 September 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link
In the wild report: "The Heat Is On" followed by "The Long Run" on jukebox auto play in a diner.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 06:25 (ten years ago) link
...followed by "Chantilly Lace". We should have a Big Bopper listening thread next.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 06:30 (ten years ago) link
on this day in which monsieur Seward will post the famous Eagles cut ever…I would like to suggest that, perhaps as a change of pace in between "the Sad cafe" and "no more walks in the Woods," he might consider posts regarding 80s-90s singles videos that will horrify most of the participants here, like Felder's "bad Girls," Schmidt's "Boys Night Out," "Sexy Girl" "the Confessor" "A Life of Illusion" "All She wants to do is Dance" etc etc…
― veronica moser, Monday, 30 September 2013 11:36 (ten years ago) link
I found this: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/12/glenn-frey-by-barron/
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 11:41 (ten years ago) link
a preview of today's extended metaphor:
Q: You sing: "So I called up the captain / 'Please bring me my wine' / He said, 'We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.'" I realize I'm probably not the first to bring this to your attention, but wine isn't a spirit. Wine is fermented; spirits are distilled. Do you regret that lyric?”Henley: Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention-—and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement."
Henley: Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention-—and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement."
― col, Monday, 30 September 2013 11:53 (ten years ago) link
That is simply beautiful.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 September 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
You can tell he's angry because he said "nomenclature."
― carl agatha, Monday, 30 September 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
"Hotel California"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/hcinsert3big.jpg
http://youtu.be/KaQHsWFSiao
― scott seward, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link
more exegesis from Henley:
This is a concept album, there’s no way to hide it, but it’s not set in the old West, the cowboy thing, you know,” Henley told the Dutch magazine ZigZag. “It’s more urban this time... It’s our bicentennial year, you know, the country is 200 years old, so we figured since we are the Eagles and the eagle is our national symbol, that we were obliged to make some kind of a little bicentennial statement using California as a microcosm of the whole United States, or the whole world, if you will, and to try to wake people up and say ‘We’ve been OK so far, for 200 years, but we’re gonna have to change if we’re gonna continue to be around.”
― col, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link
so, some random thoughts on a song i've probably heard 4,000 times in my life
* Henley's finest, or at least most memorable, hour as a drummer? e.g. the fill after "can't kill the beast" where he seems to spin over to timbales.
* one influence, i'm pretty sure, on Felder at least was Bowie's "Moonage Daydream." The guitar solos have some Ronson in them; the bassline is pretty similar in places
* Felder wrote it in E minor, and they recorded the instrumental tracks in that key. But when Henley went to sing it, it was too high: Felder said he sounded like Barry Gibb. Eventually they had to downshift to B minor and re-record the whole track.
* realized i can hum, pretty much note for note, the entire Felder/Walsh guitar solo--it's like the damn thing is encoded into my DNA.
― col, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:23 (ten years ago) link
This totally slays, I can't and won't front.
Obviously the guitars sound fantastic, right from the start. I love how the licks in the choruses get progressively more manic - is this what Walsh brings? There's been nothing so unhinged hitherto as the lick at 3:07. The bass is terrific too; as well the cod-reggae lines Randy lays down a pretty melody in the intro, and wisely resists the temptation to show off when the dual guitars chime in.
Two things. Is this generally reckoned a Stairway rip-off? Because it clearly is, but I've never actually seen it said as such. And when Henley's voice fades out at 3:28 it's alarmingly abrupt. Is that normal, or something to do with me listening on spotify? It sounds almost like he's gated, which there's no reason for at all.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
LOL at the Eagles trying to wake anybody up
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
It sounds almost like he's gated, which there's no reason for at all.
I noticed it on the YouTube clip too. Don probably exhaled weird or something, necessitating a cut-off. His vocal doesn't sound gated anywhere else on the track.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
It's kind of amazing how the harmonizing guitar figures during the verses never bump into or crowd the vocal, or predictably "answer" it. And I like how the guitars start to sound like a synth towards the end of the solos.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 30 September 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
A Good Day in Hell
http://blackjacketsymphony.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/ht-1.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
• would love to hear E minor version. Also, there's a full 7-minute version released in Japan that doesn't fade out. Been scouring the web looking for that one.
• Give 'em credit for a lot of things with this song. Off the bat, Frey or whoever arranged this should get an attaboy for starting the lyrics right after the boom/boom that ends the intro. Any jam band - or metal band even - would've got milked the first few bars of that verse section too.
• I'm on record all over the place for digging that part of the solo where the two guitars lock into each other at around 5:20. Lot of professional restraint, as Tarfumes mentions, on not going crazy with the fills and responses. Same goes for Randy who goes as far as possible with the rhythm of this song without going overboard. In other words, he takes it to the limit.
― pplains, Monday, 30 September 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
Don Felder teaches you how to play Hotel California. Namechecks Barry Gibb again.
― pplains, Monday, 30 September 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
you can stab them with your steely knivesbut you can never leave
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 30 September 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Posted this on the other Eagles thread, but I think it bears repeating.
In the 80s, Joe Walsh was a frequent guest on a Chicago radio show. The hosts were always trying to get him to dish Eagles dirt, so Walsh talked about Henley and the "Hotel California" solos.
Walsh and Felder were in the control room listening to the playback of the solos when Henley walks in and says, "What the hell is this shit? Do those solos over!" and storms out. Walsh and Felder smirk at each other. An hour later, Henley comes back, high as a kite, and demands to hear the new solos. Walsh and Felder play the tape and Henley says, "See, that's MUCH better. Thanks for doing those again!"
They hadn't re-recorded a note. Henley was hearing the exact same solos he'd heard earlier.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 30 September 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
Same goes for Randy who goes as far as possible with the rhythm of this song without going overboard. In other words, he takes it to the limit.
― pplains, Monday, September 30, 2013 9:59 AM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Meisner kills it on this song. It's the first time I really admired (much less noticed) an Eagles bassline.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 30 September 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
i never thought anything would be able to make me see this song in a newfound light, but listening to the rest of the eagles' oeuvre turned out to be the thing that could
― call all destroyer, Monday, 30 September 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1053/in-the-song-hotel-california-what-does-colitas-mean
― carl agatha, Monday, 30 September 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
good info!
― call all destroyer, Monday, 30 September 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Monday, September 30, 2013 2:32 PM (28 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This thread and the previous posts on the song have definitely made me listen to the song differently, mostly because all of your astute observations have given me new things to listen to and a new appreciation for why those things are good. So thanks, smart people!!!
― carl agatha, Monday, 30 September 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
in re: the Steely Dan connection (which Frey and Henley have gone on about over the past 3 decades). The "hotel calif" lyric is Henley and Frey trying to write a Dan lyric, so we get lots of obscure references, & words that most people mishear or think are made up (e.g. "colitas"). Yet it's not obscure enough, in a way: the lyric's a pretty straightforward narrative; the wordplay is pretty weak and forced at times, and worse of all, they still want it to *mean something,* man: hence Henley from day one is talking about how "HC" is supposed to be about America and California and "yeah, I saw Polanski's Chinatown man, it's heavy stuff"
whereas the Dan is obscurity for its own pleasures. if it's a reference in a song it's so private, confined to Fagen and Becker, that it might as well not even exist. So "Chain Lightning" is about a Nazi rally, or seeing an Elvis concert, or whatever. "Kid Charlemagne" is about Owsley Stanley, or a blaxsploitation movie Fagen saw, or a guy he knew at Bard, but the song is its own thing.
― col, Monday, 30 September 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
"They're livin' it up at the Hotel California..." sounds like something my grandmother would've derisively said about some event she didn't care for. "Oh, those Alabama fans must have been livin' it up after that call for Tennessee was called back," etc."
― pplains, Monday, 30 September 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
so weird that i am always ready to here this on the radio. which is the only place i hear it pretty much. i wonder how many times i've heard it over the years. a thousand times? okay maybe not that many times. feels like it though. and yet there i am singing along every time. never gets old.
― scott seward, Monday, 30 September 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
I don't think I've ever heard this song in its entirety. It's such a part of the landscape that I catch it in the beginning, middle, or end, and have never played it of my own volition.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
I remember learning to play this song out of a copy of GUITAR FOR THE PRACTICING MUSICIAN, which is now GUITAR ONE or some such thing. Anyway, they always labeled the guitars throughout the arrangement, so the main rhythm guitar was always Gtr I, the main lead or secondary rhythm was Gtr II, etc.; then they'd label them with increasingly high numbers as more guitars came into the arrangement, even for a bar or two. I think they got up to at least Gtr IX in that arrangement.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Monday, 30 September 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
This is even funnier if you read it in William Shatner's voice.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Monday, 30 September 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
It's a sociopolitical statement.
Meaning what?
One thing I always hated about this and some of their other songs was that they all shared this DEEP MEANING. They all are METAPHORS. And they love to keep bringing this up. The only meaning I've gotten from this stuff is "These songwriters are deep, man".
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 September 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
I'm on record all over the place for digging that part of the solo where the two guitars lock into each other at around 5:20
that moment never fails to deliver a lift. kind of reminds me of when marquee moon arrives at the unison section.
also, in gtr solo #2, there are some v nice little upward whisks at the ends of phrases which make me think of someone flicking outward with a knife.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 September 2013 16:50 (ten years ago) link
Was this the closet they got to being the Doors? Sonic wallpaper yet again, but on closer listening, a magnificent construction: the playing is fantastic, the coda isn't gratuitous or perfunctory. The lyrics are...over-examined, but among other things fit into a tradition of classic road/driving songs while adding a distinctively late '70s aura as only the Eagles could. It's also kind of the mellow "Freebird".
Frey's on Fire here:
HOTEL CALIFORNIAGLENN: The song began as a demo tape, an instrumental by Don Felder. He’d been submitting tapes and song ideas to us since he’d joined the band, always instrumentals, since he didn’t sing. But this particular demo, unlike many of the others, had room for singing. It immediately got our attention. The first working title, the name we gave it, was “Mexican Reggae.”For us, “Hotel California” was definitely thinking and writing outside the box. We had never written any song like it before. Similar to “Desperado,” we did not start out to make any sort of concept or theme album. But when we wrote “Life In The Fast Lane” and started working on “Hotel California” and “New Kid In Town” with J.D., we knew we were heading down a long and twisted corridor and just stayed with it. Songs from the dark side — the Eagles take a look at the seamy underbelly of L.A. — the flip side of fame and failure, love and money.“They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can’t kill the beast” was a little Post-It back to Steely Dan. Apparently, Walter Becker’s girlfriend loved the Eagles, and she played them all the time. I think it drove him nuts. So, the story goes that they were having a fight one day, and that was the genesis of the line, “turn up the Eagles, the neighbors are listening” in “Everything You Did,” from Steely Dan’sThe Royal Scam album. During the writing of “Hotel California,” we decided to volley. We just wanted to allude to Steely Dan rather than mentioning them outright, so “Dan” got changed to “knives,” which is still, you know, a penile metaphor. Stabbing, thrusting, etc.Almost everybody in my business can write music, play guitar, play piano, create chord progressions, etc., but it’s only when you add lyrics and melody and voices to these things that they take on an identity and become something beyond that sum of the individual parts. I remember that Henley and I were listening to the “Hotel California” demo tape together on an airplane, and we were talking about what we would write and how we wanted to be more cinematic. We wanted this song to open like an episode of The Twilight Zone — just one shot after another.I remember De Niro in The Last Tycoon. He’s got this scene, and he’s talking to some other people in his office. He speaks to them: “The door opens…the camera is on a person’s feet…he walks across the room…we pan up to the table… he picks up a pack of matches that says ‘The Such-And-Such Club’ on it… strikes a match and lights a cigarette…puts it out… goes over to the window… opens the shade… looks out… the moon is there… what does it mean? Nothing. It’s just the movies.” “Hotel California” is like that. We take this guy and make him like a character in The Magus, where every time he walks through a door there’s a new version of reality. We wanted to write a song just like it was a movie. This guy is driving across the desert. He’s tired. He’s smokin’. Comes up over a hill, sees some lights, pulls in. First thing he sees is a really strange guy at the front door, welcoming him: “Come on in.” Walks in, and then it becomes Fellini-esque — strange women, effeminate men, shadowy corridors, disembodied voices, debauchery, illusion… Weirdness. So we thought, “Let’s really take some chances. Let’s try to write in a way that we’ve never written before.” Steely Dan inspired us because of their lyrical bravery and willingness to go “out there.” So, for us, “Hotel California” was about thinking and writing outside the box.DON: We were enamored with hotels. Hotels were a big part of our lives. The Beverly Hills Hotel had become something of a focal point — literally and symbolically. I’ve always been interested in architecture and the language of architecture, and, at that time, I was particularly keen on the mission style of early California. I thought there was a certain mystery and romance about it. Then, there are all the great movies and plays in which hotels figure prominently, not only as a structure, but as a dramatic device. Films such as Grand Hotel, The Night Porter, and even Psycho — motels count too. There are plays like Neil Simon’s Plaza Suite and California Suite, which Glenn and I went to see while writing the song. We saw it as homework or research. We were looking for things that would stimulate us and give us ideas. Sometimes it was just driving around. We would still take trips out to the desert. At one point, Glenn and I rented a little red house up in Idlewild — way up in the San Bernadino Mountains. We’d drive out there sometimes just to clear our heads, sleep on the floor in sleeping bags. We didn’t have any furniture. We were just on the quest.
For us, “Hotel California” was definitely thinking and writing outside the box. We had never written any song like it before. Similar to “Desperado,” we did not start out to make any sort of concept or theme album. But when we wrote “Life In The Fast Lane” and started working on “Hotel California” and “New Kid In Town” with J.D., we knew we were heading down a long and twisted corridor and just stayed with it. Songs from the dark side — the Eagles take a look at the seamy underbelly of L.A. — the flip side of fame and failure, love and money.
“They stab it with their steely knives, but they just can’t kill the beast” was a little Post-It back to Steely Dan. Apparently, Walter Becker’s girlfriend loved the Eagles, and she played them all the time. I think it drove him nuts. So, the story goes that they were having a fight one day, and that was the genesis of the line, “turn up the Eagles, the neighbors are listening” in “Everything You Did,” from Steely Dan’sThe Royal Scam album. During the writing of “Hotel California,” we decided to volley. We just wanted to allude to Steely Dan rather than mentioning them outright, so “Dan” got changed to “knives,” which is still, you know, a penile metaphor. Stabbing, thrusting, etc.
Almost everybody in my business can write music, play guitar, play piano, create chord progressions, etc., but it’s only when you add lyrics and melody and voices to these things that they take on an identity and become something beyond that sum of the individual parts. I remember that Henley and I were listening to the “Hotel California” demo tape together on an airplane, and we were talking about what we would write and how we wanted to be more cinematic. We wanted this song to open like an episode of The Twilight Zone — just one shot after another.
I remember De Niro in The Last Tycoon. He’s got this scene, and he’s talking to some other people in his office. He speaks to them: “The door opens…the camera is on a person’s feet…he walks across the room…we pan up to the table… he picks up a pack of matches that says ‘The Such-And-Such Club’ on it… strikes a match and lights a cigarette…puts it out… goes over to the window… opens the shade… looks out… the moon is there… what does it mean? Nothing. It’s just the movies.” “Hotel California” is like that. We take this guy and make him like a character in The Magus, where every time he walks through a door there’s a new version of reality. We wanted to write a song just like it was a movie. This guy is driving across the desert. He’s tired. He’s smokin’. Comes up over a hill, sees some lights, pulls in. First thing he sees is a really strange guy at the front door, welcoming him: “Come on in.” Walks in, and then it becomes Fellini-esque — strange women, effeminate men, shadowy corridors, disembodied voices, debauchery, illusion… Weirdness. So we thought, “Let’s really take some chances. Let’s try to write in a way that we’ve never written before.” Steely Dan inspired us because of their lyrical bravery and willingness to go “out there.” So, for us, “Hotel California” was about thinking and writing outside the box.
DON: We were enamored with hotels. Hotels were a big part of our lives. The Beverly Hills Hotel had become something of a focal point — literally and symbolically. I’ve always been interested in architecture and the language of architecture, and, at that time, I was particularly keen on the mission style of early California. I thought there was a certain mystery and romance about it. Then, there are all the great movies and plays in which hotels figure prominently, not only as a structure, but as a dramatic device. Films such as Grand Hotel, The Night Porter, and even Psycho — motels count too. There are plays like Neil Simon’s Plaza Suite and California Suite, which Glenn and I went to see while writing the song. We saw it as homework or research. We were looking for things that would stimulate us and give us ideas. Sometimes it was just driving around. We would still take trips out to the desert. At one point, Glenn and I rented a little red house up in Idlewild — way up in the San Bernadino Mountains. We’d drive out there sometimes just to clear our heads, sleep on the floor in sleeping bags. We didn’t have any furniture. We were just on the quest.
"Sorry, me and Glenn can't make the coke orgy at Crosby's. We've got tickets for "Plaza Suite" and reservations at Dan Tanna's."
Missing from Don's spiel is the Ron Burgundy-ish anecdote that he purposely wore a bathrobe while recording this song to enhance the relaxed feel he felt was necessary to play it. He also neglects to mention that beneath his preferred subtext, this song (and others he wrote for the album) is about his ex-girlfriend who left him for that other celebrated wordsmith, Bernie Taupin.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement.
so basically henley knows what colitas are, and he knows how various beverages are made, but he is unaware of the concept of the double entendre?
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 September 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
"Sometimes a steely knife is just a steely knife, not a reference to a better band."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
what he should have said, in response to the original question, was that he, don henley, knows the difference between distilled and fermented drinks, but the character of the "captain" in the song does not, and that was the sociopolitical point he was trying to make. so, really, a triple entendre.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 September 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
look at Frey dropping cinematic references.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
Henley's right, though: I love hotels too.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
Joe Walsh: "I love hotels too!" <fires up chainsaw>
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
"he, don henley, knows the difference between distilled and fermented drinks, but the character of the "captain" in the song does not, and that was the sociopolitical point he was trying to make"
the song is secretly about the notable decline in the caliber of bar staff at the Beverly Hills Hotel in '76. "Glenn, can you believe that guy called the magnum I ordered a 'spirit'?"
― col, Monday, 30 September 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
strange women, effeminate men
kinda think this is an offhand remark that nails Frey's world view.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
“Let’s really take some chances. Let’s try to write in a way that we’ve never written before. Let's see if we can come up with a way to rhyme 'bell' with 'hell'."
― pplains, Monday, 30 September 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
DON: We were enamored with hotels. Hotels were a big part of our lives. The Beverly Hills Hotel had become something of a focal point — literally and symbolically. I’ve always been interested in architecture and the language of architecture, and, at that time, I was particularly keen on the mission style of early California. I thought there was a certain mystery and romance about it.
FREY: Those chicks from the valley we had that night? Lots of romance and mystery there.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
Frey must've got so darn excited when Eyes Wide Shut was released.
― pplains, Monday, 30 September 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
Ah yes, symbolism. The language or architecture. The metaphors of the lost 60s.
The Eagles just seem like some dudes that have taken so many drugs they are convinced that every thought they have is a brilliant insight, and won't shut up about it.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 30 September 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
This is the first time in my life i actually made an effort to hear "Hotel California".... my random thoughts
- Always thought the 3:28 fadeout/gap was a edit, punch-in, or tape splice
- Felder didn't seem to mind Henley singing like Barry Gibb on "One Of These Nights"
- As much as i don't like the Eagles and am sick of hearing this song for the 529th time, the guitar solos are unquestionably all-time
- Hotel California is by far the best-selling non-comp Eagles album, partly no doubt in part because the title track is their signature song, but I wonder if it wouldn't have sold nearly as well had the greatest hits album been issued after this album instead of before. Many of those gazillions who bought Greatest Hits also wanted this album if only for "HC" and the other singles
- Lolling at the credit roll at the end of the fan-made video: "The intent of these videos is to bring new fans to older and often obscure album tracks...."
― Lee626, Monday, 30 September 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
I always mostly-hated this song. It was an automatic NOPE if it came on the radio. except that if I did end up getting stuck listening to it I always found myself getting into the drums part.
within the past 3 months or so I've completely turned a corner on HC and now the solos and that melody Felder & Walsh play together on the outro, I can't get enough of it.
overall, A+
there's a line (I can't remember which one off the top of my head) where Henley does an audible 'UNGHHH' at the end and it kinda grosses me out
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 September 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
it was those chicks in the valley. Lots of romance and atmosphere.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
Don:We found an orgone accumulator in a dusty corner of the studio, and discovered it made a great vocal booth in addition to what it offered in our other areas of research.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
Frey: We were interested in vaginal research in those days.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
Almost everybody in my business can write music, play guitar, play piano, create chord progressions, etc., but it’s only when you add lyrics and melody and voices to these things that they take on an identity and become something beyond that sum of the individual parts.
Felder basically wrote the song, and this is a pretty shitty way for Frey/Henley to take credit for it.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Monday, 30 September 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
Henley was looking at this Facebook page when he sang that: https://www.facebook.com/benz.girls
― pplains, Monday, 30 September 2013 21:10 (ten years ago) link
i'm in the minority of kinda loving "i wish you peace"...sail on bernie
i've done my share of Eagles frontin' in this thread but I'm not gonna front on Hotel California. great song, goofy "deep" lyrics and all
i love the really simple single note harmony guitar held notes during the verses, a really simple and elegant little touch
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link
I only want to remark on what a piece of shit Henley is. Check out his expanded comments:
Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention—and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement. My only regret would be having to explain it in detail to you, which would defeat the purpose of using literary devices in songwriting and lower the discussion to some silly and irrelevant argument about chemical processes.[
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild! Just heard Ol' 55 in Walgreens.
― carl agatha, Monday, 30 September 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
Dropout at 3.28 - pathetic. Put some reverb over it or something, guys.Rhythm section at 5.38 - good.End guitar solos could have got a bit more Freebird really.Hearty chuckle at Henley trying to sound menacing when he delivers the Night Man's line.
― Addison Doug (Matt #2), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
Xps Interviewer: Well, yeah.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
How did Bernie leave? Was expecting you all to break out sob stories, but nothing.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 30 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
the descending harmony arpeggios at the end of the Hotel California guitar solo always reminded me of Iron Maiden a bit
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
dumped a beer over freys head and peaced, iirc
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:42 (ten years ago) link
Frey was mad it was Milwaukee's Best: "Of course you use the cheapest beer!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
I Wish You Piels
― velko, Monday, 30 September 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
My Michelob
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 September 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
xxpost m@tt I'm pretty sure that's why I dig that outro so hard, definitely shades of Maiden! there are few things in life I love more than a face-melting twin-guitar assault :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 September 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
very much off topic now but in that case VG i just wanna make sure you know Thin White Rope, esp their moonhead LP. The finest mid-80s desert twin guitar heaviness.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 30 September 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tzNQ9Avr4k
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Monday, 30 September 2013 23:38 (ten years ago) link
xpost ooooweee thx Jon, I'll check it out!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown - woah, can totally hear this
― balls, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 00:54 (ten years ago) link
Here's all seven of them playing HC at the Hall of Fame: http://youtu.be/2dyw6LZpSOA
― pplains, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
Same little 3:28 dropout as the studio version!
If I were in a band performing a classic-but-overfamiliar song live, I'd want to change up the arrangement just a bit, not decontruct the song and turn it into something else, but just enough to make a song everyone in the audience has heard hundreds of times seem fresh and interesting, retaining the essence of the original recording but not recreating it note for note so they don't know exactly what's coming next. Just as on Eagles Live '80, this sounds almost like they played the record through the P.A. system.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
They need to go Full-Dub and have somebody do a toast in the middle. Nominations?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 03:06 (ten years ago) link
http://o.onionstatic.com/images/articles/article/2601/Donald-Fagen-R_jpg_630x463_pad-black_upscale_q85.jpg
― balls, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 03:38 (ten years ago) link
that story from Walsh about Henley & the Hotel California solos made me think of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzpk5dMhVE4
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 04:12 (ten years ago) link
aggggghhh fuck sorry I shouldn't have done that, embed ragh
fp me skott, I deserve it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 04:15 (ten years ago) link
FWIW, a couple hours ago I drove past the Beverly Hills Hotel.
Walsh at 4:53 is one of my fave moments in rock and roll. His "guitar face" at this moment is the best! Felder's sound completely singular. All those guitars in the R&R HOF clip make me think of BJM.
Thread really delivering today!
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 05:44 (ten years ago) link
This song was already old news to me 20 years ago - I'm 30 now - and yet I never fucking get tired of it, Henley's cod-Mexican accent and portentous lyrics and those lemon-sucking harmonies and all. It's like "Stairway" - just a killer minor-key progression, arrangement, production, everything. So thank you Don Felder and Bill Szymczyk, but kudos as well to the perfect balance of teeth-clenching tension and El Lay cool in Henley's vocal. I mean, dude can sing. Also I'm a sucker for the narcissistic Southern California myth-mongering, which is maybe why the Red Hot Chili Peppers aren't yet completely beyond the pale for me.
― thewufs, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link
what the hell.....
http://youtu.be/Q0F83bK0TZU
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:32 (ten years ago) link
"New Kid In Town"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesHCHenleyHoboPants.jpg
http://youtu.be/L7c-P5hAPfg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link
new screen-name for someone:
HenleyHoboPants.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link
again, this is kinda unfuckwithable on FM radio. this album/aja/rumours. the holy trinity of FM sound.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:40 (ten years ago) link
This is one of those I-love-it-in-a-Proustian-way songs. Love the vocal and instrumental arrangement, love the slinky guitar solo, love the key change, love Felder and Walsh's work throughout, even the lyrics are pretty good by Frey standards. If the universe judged that I might only be allowed to listen to one Eagles song ever again, this would probably be it.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
allegedly the "New Kid" in question was Springsteen, who Frey/Henley saw as muscling into their territory after "Born to Run" hit.
Seems like an odd choice of lead-off single at first, given the collection of rockers they had, but it makes sense: it's meant to appeal to all the people who bought the 72-75 greatest hits record---it's the closest the album gets to a "Tequila Sunrise." There's a Tex-Mex feel to the verses, esp in the keyboard hook.
always liked this one, but it goes on a bit too long, as Eagles songs do---the bridge isn't great, as it's too melodically similar to the rest of it and has the worst set of lyrics. that said, the outro is lovely, w/ the harmonies and the rolling drum fills (punctuated by Henley's trademark way-too-high-mixed cymbal crashes).
― col, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link
hard to fault this
Glenn Frey has the same birthday as Doug Sahm, maybe that's where he gets the Tex-Mex feel.
― Brad C., Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link
The harmonies are good!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
Ha, the hi-hat isn't panned hard right! They fixed it! But man, 70s production was so flumpfy and dead. In the Springsteen doc about Darkness, he complains about the lack of resonance in the studio, but at the time, that's all there was; that was state-of-the-art in the late 70s. No one wanted any reverby echoey shit, so all the major studios had carpeting on the walls.
This isn't an awful song, though. Might be my favorite (which is to say, least creepy/sleazy) Frey vocal.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
by far the best song of theirs to date.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
beautiful song imo
it's the cozy blanket of Eagles songs :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
wonder how much of it was owed to J.D. Souther
this is the only Frey vocal on the album--acc to Frey it was a decision he went along with (Henley as the "lead singer" of the Eagles 2.0) but you can see how the henley/Frey partnership begins to fall apart here
― col, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
I love dead reverbless 70s recordings
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
I have a visceral dislike for this song and I don't know why! I am trying to give it a fair shot and it just annoys the heck out of me. My best guess is that I have some negative association with it, like it was on the radio when my mom said we couldn't go out for ice cream or something.
Objectively there's nothing wrong with it. I like the guitar/drums at 3:21. It's a little too long. The lyrics are kind of dumb, although not creepy.
You're welcome for the incisive commentary.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
i hate "johnny come lately / the new kid in town" as a lyric. it's so lame.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
I think I've always taken the lyrics too literally (definite side effect of hearing the song when I was a kid) and am annoyed that these people have such boring lives that they care that much when somebody new comes to town. Also LOL at the town mattress who has no more criteria for the men she lets hold her than their being new in town.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
"70s production was so flumpfy and dead."
yeah this brush is too broad. so much to love about the sound of so many 70's records. i wouldn't even know where to begin. but i get the gist of the dead airless argument.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
this is their best to date but still an airless recording. I can imagine being sixteen, gay, driving around a dead-end town while this plays on the radio though..
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
Granted, re: broad brush. There are some dead-arse 70s recordings I love (Parliament, Steely Dan), but applying those principles of sound to everything meant that no (or hardly any) studios existed where one could make a record that had some resonance. And stuff like Anthony Braxton's Arista records really suffer from this.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
after the gold rush is super "dead" sounding and that works great
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
I always found this superlame but that was mostly the lyric - new kids in town always seemed like the most pathetic boast to write about. I can't quite shake that off, but there's no denying the craft here. The whole extended end section - 'coda' doesn't quite seem enough - is exquisite.
I doubt they intended this, but the second verse sounds like a tour of Mediterranean resorts - there's a Greek feel for a line, then an italo piano bar bit, then they sound like they might be about to launch into a Spanish chanson, then the piano bar again. If Moroder had spent his youth pleasing tourists in Rhodes and Rimini, rather than in Tirolean discotheques, then Giorgio By Moroder might've come out like this.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
This song has always bored me, and it still does.
If Springsteen wanted reverb in the '70s, he should have travelled west and recorded at Gold Star or the Capitol Tower (if they'd let him in). Best echo chambers that ever were.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
Best part of this song: That devil guitar riff that lifts its head up around 3:20 after "Where you been lately?"
Also, again, Randy's got nothing to be ashamed of.
― pplains, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Throw him a bone! (sorry)
― Lee626, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
This is another one of my favorites. Frey gives a perfect, naive vocal for the song, inhabiting it in way Henley could never fully commit. The nearly subliminal latin elements are a nice unexpected touch (have the Mavericks ever tried this song for their own?), and sort of a hallmark for Souther at that time. Henley, in a franker mood than when quoted below, has said that the track more or less a Souther solo comp that he and Frey added a tiny amount to and got credit. Overall this is like the perfect "El Lay" record, and perhaps ironically, the closet they got to being in the Rumours (which came out a month or so after Hotel California) wheelhouse.
The Crowe on this one is kinda boring.
NEW KID IN TOWNGLENN: We won a Grammy® for Best Vocal Arrangement for “New Kid In Town.” I’m quite proud of that.DON: J.D. Souther started the song. It’s about the fleeting, fickle nature of love and romance. It’s also about the fleeting nature of fame, especially in the music business. We were already chronicling our own demise [laughs]. We were basically saying, “Look, we know we’re red hot now, but we also know that somebody’s going to come along and replace us — both in music and in love.” We were always doing that double entendre thing, between the music business and personal relationships. But that song was J.D.’s baby — he was the father of that song.
DON: J.D. Souther started the song. It’s about the fleeting, fickle nature of love and romance. It’s also about the fleeting nature of fame, especially in the music business. We were already chronicling our own demise [laughs]. We were basically saying, “Look, we know we’re red hot now, but we also know that somebody’s going to come along and replace us — both in music and in love.” We were always doing that double entendre thing, between the music business and personal relationships. But that song was J.D.’s baby — he was the father of that song.
May I submit Bill Janovitz's song review from the amg?
For a while the Eagles could get no respect from rock & roll hipsters; the form of country-rock they practiced was just too smooth and polished when compared to the genre's edgier and more soulful pioneers: the Byrds, Graham Parsons, and the Flying Burrito Brothers. The awful, oxymoronic term "soft rock" was practically invented for the Eagles. But with the focus of the alt-country scene of the late '90s and its hip progeny such as the Scud Mountain Boys, perhaps the Eagles gained a newfound admiration. "New Kid in Town" is just about a perfect pop song. It has all the elements: about five separate melody hooks; impeccable harmonies; well-played parts; a nice Latin-flavored groove; a tension-building bridge that leads into a glorious modulation; and an outro-vamp with overlapping hooks and minor grace chords. In addition to the Eagles' Glenn Frey and Don Henley, it was co-written with J.D. Souther, another songwriter and practitioner of the Southern California sound. If there was such a thing as a Los Angeles sound and recording ethic, the lush but uncomplicated production of "New Kid in Town" embodies it in a single song. And the record on which it first appeared -- the multi-platinum Hotel California(1976), producer: Bill Szymczyk -- is a logical extension of the attention to craft, arrangement, and embrace of technology practiced in the '60s by Phil Spector in his Gold Star studios and the groundbreaking work of the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson. OK, well, the lyrics don't really say anything new -- mostly clichés like "there's talk on the street" and "everybody loves you, so don't let them down," and there is still something else missing. Those Wilson compositions, as smooth as they sounded, have a depth (at times cavernous) that the smooth harmonies simply can not gloss over. And the "wall of sound" that Spector was famous for still had an underlying edge and a raw power. Comparatively, "New Kid in Town" is just ear candy.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
pplains otm re: devil riff.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
i sort of get what the lyrics are trying to say, but i'm not sure they quite say it. i mean, i guess he's the new kid but he isn't always gonna be the new kid, boohoo. it might work better with some kind of story attached, or some kind of detail, or some kind of something, anything, to hold on to.
but musically, this is fantastic songcraft. the two key changes (from E to G and then back to E) are both surprising and both beautifully executed, not at all gratuitous. they threaten a third modulation in the middle of the coda, with the beatle-esque A/Am change at 4:03, but they don't do it; instead they stay in E and launch into a second, better coda ("everybody's talkin' bout the new kid in town/everybody's walkin' like the new kid in town..."). too long? not at all. i wish it went on longer. the tex-mex underpinning that someone pointed out above works really well on the verses.
and it's my favorite frey vocal, by far. he's letting some vulnerability in here, and it really really helps his voice. it's just so musical. is this really his only vocal on the album? that's too bad.
also: they really, really stacked the hits at the top of this album.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
(speaking of something, anything, that first key change reminds me of todd rundgren for some reason.)
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
not really feeling the verses to "New Kid in Town"...reminds me of Jimmy Buffet.
how good would it be if they would have held it off the last album and followed up "Hotel California" with "One of These Nights"?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
the beatle-esque A/Am change at 4:03
I love the guitar riff under this change, too.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
I'm feeling this!
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
will watch the Frey episode of "Miami Vice" called "Smuggler's Blues." Will report.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
re "New Kid in Town" he does a bit like Souther.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
Nice electric piano by Walsh on this one. I also love the modulation and the third chorus, where Felder steps on the overdrive pedal and transforms the song from AM pop to FM AOR, effectively bridging the pre- and post-Greatest Hits eras of the band. As for the lyrics, who gives a shit? Except maybe on the Long Run, where they finally start to make their cynicism signify, these guys are so much better if you hear them as essentially content-free, which they often are.
― thewufs, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
I am finally sitting down to listen to this after a long day and initially it sounds like computer generated 70s music. Take a laid back beat, some groovy guitars, some harmonies. some cliches, stir, profit.
The lyrics matter because if you imagine the lyrics to "A Song for You" to this music it sounds like a zillion times better. I don't love this sound enough to choose to listen to it without some emotional investment (even if it's nostalgia or imaginary romance or whatever -- anything but "johnny come lately/the new kid in town") Bleh.
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 1 October 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
everyone's talking about haim and on this thread or the other eagles thread i mention how much i love the heartache tonight beat and wish people would use it but i don't think i meant in the way that haim use it:
http://youtu.be/1TffpkE2GU4
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 October 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
omg playing hotel california in this bar and plus it was part of a trivia night question!
― velko, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link
What year was the spirit last seen in the hotel Cali ?
― velko, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:16 (ten years ago) link
NINETEEN SIXTY NINE
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link
2004
― markers, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:18 (ten years ago) link
Everyone got it lol
― velko, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:20 (ten years ago) link
i smell skunk. there's probably one outside right now.
― markers, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link
but 1969 is not an actual year. it's a metaphor. good thing don henley wasn't in the bar or there might've been trouble.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:34 (ten years ago) link
also, I hope the trivia contest prize involved chugging.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:36 (ten years ago) link
you know the only thing that would have made that Crowe question better is if Henley had pitched a fit, screamed THIS INTERVIEW IS OVER, flipped the table and stormed out.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link
I don't think the spirit question was Crowd. Dude knows his role in this charade.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:46 (ten years ago) link
Crowe...stupid phone.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 05:47 (ten years ago) link
Everything. All the time.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/really_house_of_cards.gif
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
Henley sued Bryan Adams for metaphor infringement.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
Got my first real six-stringOn a dark desert highwayPlayed it 'til my fingers bledCool wind in my hair
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
"Life In The Fast Lane"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Joe_Walsh_4_-_1975.jpg
http://youtu.be/Fx6qPIC6izM
― scott seward, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
Hi, Joe!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
• Henley does some crazy voices in this song. I THINK even perhaps his "she" voice might be a little patronizing!
• I wish I could play a clip from the "family-oriented" classic rock station I used to work for. They changed "Up and down this highway/haven't seen a goddamn thing" to "haven't seen a schwapgwap thing."
• Always had this scene in my head from when I was a kid of the band playing in the back of a flatbed (reference!) going down the fast lane at dark. And at 2:30 when the second stage of the solo kicks in, why, that's when another flatbed full of guitarists appears and passes the first one.
• Welcome to the band, Joe. I see you've forgotten your banjo.
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
(listens)
Huh, this riff is pretty cool. Go Joe!
("...nasty reputation as a CREW-ELL dude")
The fuck did he just say?
(turns off radio)
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
ugh: I hate this one so much. Mainly because of the track's connection with some awful memories from adolescence (it's a song treasured by sociopaths). It's a very American take on decadence: behave like a reckless asshole and go into debt.
I like Walsh's guitars and this is the most active that Henley's kick drum has been in the entire Eagles catalog to date. But I find Henley's vocal just gross, and it's made ten times worse when Frey's whine kicks in during the chorus.
― col, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
faster, faster
http://flightgfx.com/images/boston-1.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
between this and Hotel California = ladies & gentlemen, meet MechaHenley
but damn I love that Joe riff.
this one got me to my class this morning :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
I especially love how, throughout the song, it's this relentless E pentatonic blooz thing, then with that bit at the end, it re-contextualizes the riff with each descending chord change. A bit of detail the song both doesn't need and can't do without.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
by the way we're doing Hell Freezes Over new tracks too, right?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
Go Joe!
I find sleazy Eagles more persuasive than romantic/mopey/triumphal Eagles
― Brad C., Wednesday, 2 October 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
Maybe that's why I've always been less dismissive of their later years.
All those cowboy songs, being a loner and a desperado, doolin' the daltons - it was so fake. You listen to Gram Parsons, that east-coast trust-fund baby, and you can feel way down deep inside that he's coming from the right place. Only with the Eagles could you have white people performing in whiteface.
You can't change who you are, so that's why it's always better to be true to yourself. You take a song like "Life in the Fast Lane" and yup, not too hard to peer into it and see the the soul of the Eagles laid bare. The drugs, the misogyny, the cheesy Americana, the 1970s - if you're looking for a combination of those things, it's hard to beat this band at their own game.
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
we're doing Hell Freezes Over new tracks too, right?"
we have to: I've been perversely looking forward to when we reach "Get Over It," which may be one of the worst songs in the English language
― col, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
when i was listening to the desperado stuff i was reading a book of interviews with country people and for some reason the eagles sounded more curdled than ever when i read about brenda lee's family eating grease sandwiches to live and glen campbell's dad making sure his kids had enough squirrel to eat. not that i'm a purist or anything, but the music did come from a very different place and i had forgotten how many people in this country started playing music on a stage because they were hungry! like, really really hungry.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
Life on the Fast Lane v Take the Money and Run
*clap clap clap clap clap clap*
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
I like this one too. Sweet buttrock groove, clever lyrics, funny in a "Chemical dustbins promoting excess abstinence" sort of way. Probably the first time I noticed phasing in a song. And it's finally registering with silly me that the "faster faster" line has more to do with the line before than the one after. Eagle grossness stronger through the years.
Crowebar:
LIFE IN THE FAST LANEGLENN: This began with a Joe Walsh riff — he had that signature guitar part. I had the title. The true story is: I was riding in a car with a drug dealer — a guy we used to call “The Count,” because his count was never very good [laughs]. We were driving out to an Eagles poker game. I was in the passenger seat. He moved over to the left lane and started driving 75-80 miles per hour. I said, “Hey, man, slow down.” He goes, “Hey, man, it’s life in the fast lane.” And I thought, “Oh, my God, what a title.” I didn’t write it down. I didn’t have to.Joe started playing a riff at rehearsal one day, and I said, “That’s ‘Life In The Fast Lane.’” So we started writing a song about the couple that had everything and did everything — and lost the meaning of everything. Lifestyles of the rich and miserable. I think the best line is “We’ve been up and down this highway, haven’t seen an God-damn thing.” That pretty much summarized the journey these people were on — rich as hell, gettin’ high, got everything they want, and yet they’re living in a spiritual ghetto. That’s good news to the common man! Rich folks who are absolutely miserable — and most of them are. I really like this record. Plus it made a statement: Joe Walsh was officially in the band.
Joe started playing a riff at rehearsal one day, and I said, “That’s ‘Life In The Fast Lane.’” So we started writing a song about the couple that had everything and did everything — and lost the meaning of everything. Lifestyles of the rich and miserable. I think the best line is “We’ve been up and down this highway, haven’t seen an God-damn thing.” That pretty much summarized the journey these people were on — rich as hell, gettin’ high, got everything they want, and yet they’re living in a spiritual ghetto. That’s good news to the common man! Rich folks who are absolutely miserable — and most of them are. I really like this record. Plus it made a statement: Joe Walsh was officially in the band.
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090810140929/muppet/images/thumb/4/46/Fp_diecast_count.jpg/273px-Fp_diecast_count.jpg
LIFE IN THE FAST LANE!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
We were driving out to an Eagles poker game.
Does this imply that if Glenn Frey shows up at your table, it's all of a sudden an Eagles poker game?
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
"He moved over to the left lane and started driving 75-80 miles per hour."
? so like 10-15 mph over the limit? that is some hard livin' by the "Count"
― col, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Joe Walsh's Maserati did 185.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
I can just see him strolling in, "Awright chumps, y'all better fold! The Frey-o-lator's in the house! Somebody's gonna lose somethin' before the night is through! Ha ha ha! OK, deal me in!"
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link
"Somebody better check the thermostat, 'cause The Heat Is Now ON!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
Henley: "I've got four queens, and all they want to do is dance!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
That pretty much summarized the journey these people were on — rich as hell, gettin’ high, got everything they want, and yet they’re living in a spiritual ghetto. That’s good news to the common man! Rich folks who are absolutely miserable — and most of them are.
otm! Nothing I like more than hearing rich folks whine about how bad they have it! Must have been hard living in a spiritual ghetto! If only they could've commiserated with this guy:
http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/24/news/companies/aig-ceo-bonuses/index.html
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
Rich folks: living in a river of darkness beneath a neon light
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
DON: It was social commentary.
GLENN: Rich or poor, some of these chicks were hot as fuck.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
tbf, during the time that Hotel California came out, the fast lane had a maximum speed limit of 55 mph and the thermostat was to be set on 78º in the summer months.
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
I mean, forget APRs of 20 percent, 78 degrees is ridiculous.
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
Damn Jimmy Carter and his energy conservation commands.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
Only with the Eagles could you have white people performing in whiteface.
Beautifully OTM.
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
yeah i love this one....
i do love the "haven't seen a goddamn thing" line
riff is super classic and it's joe so i don't even have to feel bad about liking it
still really on my they should have put "one of these nights" on this album and tried to expunge any remaining country rock from the mix and just make this the urban freeway cocaine eagles album all the way
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
you all do realize the joe walsh riff in "fast lane" is a metaphor, right?
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
I have bought beer at this metaphor.
http://www.fastlane-cstore.com/Images/fastlane.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
Was 'life in the fast line' a cliche before Frey lifted it?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
I don't know.
I know that this once existed: http://youtu.be/0iPCrZk-pPM
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
during the time in my life i hated the eagles the most this was the eagles song i hated most. today i'm fine w/ it though god the lyrics and henley's vocals still disgust me. i can remember this schmuck in high school who at any outside of school function would whip out an acoustic guitar and either play a tortured version of this or the unplugged version of layla. he knew i despised the eagles (and may have suspected i despised him) and repeatedly would try to sell me on their edginess or whatever on the basis of 'faster faster'. maybe it's just popping up in the same playlists but this has always reminded me of that second wave second tier carter era southern rock, more so than any of their other hits at least.
― balls, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:50 (ten years ago) link
glad to see others noting an eagles poker game, can picture frey sitting down at a table already in the middle of a game, taking the cards out of everyones hands, redealing and including himself, and saying 'alright fellas, eagles poker *looks at hand* red 3s, black 7s, and the jack of diamonds are wild'.
― balls, Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
That’s good news to the common man!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
Eagles poker: full house only counts if Frey or Henley have it. Everyone else is SOL
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:54 (ten years ago) link
The Joker cards have Joe Walsh's picture on them.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link
Randy is not allowed to sit at the table
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 2 October 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
― bizarro gazzara, Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:46 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
love this
― JEFF 22 (Matt P), Thursday, 3 October 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
this has always reminded me of that second wave second tier carter era southern rock
this has got me imagining a Skynyrd version of this track -- less arch and louche, but much more ominous
(Skynyrd first wave first tier obviously)
― Brad C., Thursday, 3 October 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I don't like this, though it's catchy as hell with great propulsion. I even woke up with it in my head. I think it's the smugness. Even in a song about the hell of being rich and having everything you want, they don't commit - I get the feeling the message is: look at those rich and famous schmucks; we're having a blast.
More generally I have a problem with pure pentatonic stuff, it always lacks colour for me. They fill it in in the coda, but the song has gone by by then.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 October 2013 07:18 (ten years ago) link
"Wasted Time"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesHCOdd.jpg
http://youtu.be/uy32Rbovk1U
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
this song sounds current. kinda. like i could hear it on the radio by someone now. i don't know who, but someone.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
the kind of songs singers like. a showcase. doesn't do much for me personally.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
Attn: s1ocki
http://i.snag.gy/Arrsj.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: It’s a Philly-soul torch song. I loved all the records coming out of Philadelphia at that time. I sent for some sheet music so I could learn some of those songs, and I started creating my own musical ideas with that Philly influence. Don was our Teddy Pendergrass. He could stand out there all alone and just wail. We did a big Philly-type production with strings — definitely not country rock. You’re not going to find that track on a Crosby, Stills & Nash record or Beach Boys record. Don’s singing abilities stretched so many of our boundaries. He could sing the phone book. It didn’t matter. We had Golden Throat [laughs appreciatively]. Jim Ed Norman, Don’s old college buddy and former bandmate — and now President of Warner/Reprise Records/Nashville — wrote all of our string charts. He was right there with us in terms of wanting to do something like Thom Bell. It was definitely us loving Thom Bell.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
Oh, shit, I was composing my magnum opus on "Life in the Fast Line" and xposted all the posts about today's selection. God forbid any of my genius go to waste so:
I love the opening riff on this, and I love that when I read "Life in the Fast Lane" I hear it loud and clear in my head. I think people are right on about the lyrics being smarmy, but I have always liked the line "He was too tired to make it/she was too tired to fight about it" less for the content (which, come on) but more for the delivery and they rhythm. Same with "They didn't care they were just dying to get off and it was (chorus)." I also like what happens to the guitars at 2:30.
But overall, there's something inherently cheesy about the song, mostly the really goofy bounciness to the whole song, and a lyrical cheesiness epitomized by the delivery on the line "Doctor says he's coming but you gotta pay him cash." Basically, if this song comes on the radio I will leave it on and enjoy the parts I like very much, but I would never seek it out on purpose.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
"Wasted Time" is surprisingly lovely, but goddammit if the condescension of the lyrics fucks it all up. And really, they're not that condescending, but if I didn't already know they were condescending misogynistic dickshits I wouldn't mind/notice the condescension in this song as much.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
Just in that verse alone:
Well baby, there you stand / With your little head, down in your hand
She's gotta be a baby. She's gotta have a little head.
And girl-hatin' aside, any editor would've ripped that up. She's holding a little head in her hand? He says "down", implying that she's not just palming her forehead like she's had a V-8 either.
Your baby's gone, and you're all alone / and it looks like the end.
So the baby's upset because her baby's gone. Babies get upset and cry easily, I'll give Donald that.
You're afraid it's all been wasted timeI know individual threads usually don't have descriptions out beside them, but in this case....
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
i think i always thought this was solo henley
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
You can tell Meisner wasn't long for the band. Check out his thousand-yard stare in that photo.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
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― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
There's just this bridge the Eagles couldn't cross. Teddy Pendergrass says to turn off the lights and light a candle, and before you know it, we're all in between the silk sheets with him. Had Henley tried to turn off the lights, we would've collectively gotten out our mace sprayers.
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
Spray him right in his little head.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link
(uh, not a euphemism.)
Trying hiding your lyin' eyes from THIS! PSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHT
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
Enjoy life in the MACE LANE!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Well baby, there you stand / With your little head, down in your handYour baby's gone, and you're all alone / and it looks like the end.You're afraid it's all been wasted time
What if - and I apologize for the nightmares this will surely inspire - the first "baby" is a dude, and the second baby - "Your baby" - is a girl? Maybe he's saying that the dude is mournfully masturbating while thinking of his lost love...
― 誤訳侮辱, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
"tears" on your shoulder....
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
No that's wrong, later on in the verse he said "but you just can't hold your man" and it's very clear he's only addressing one person in the verse
Now quick run along someone just called Mikey racist
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
your man = penis
yep, definitely abt masturbation
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 October 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
i like the phrasing, it's an ok song but it's waaaay to pleased with itself for what it is
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 October 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
^^ yes! that is it exactly.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 3 October 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
"We did a big Philly-type production with strings — definitely not country rock. You’re not going to find that track on a Crosby, Stills & Nash record or Beach Boys record"
yeah, no big productions w/strings on any Beach Boys records. You wonder sometimes if Frey ever listened to anything but his own masters.
― col, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
*makes shitty cheesesteak sandwich*
"Ha! You've never seen Graham Nash eating one of these!"
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
*dresses as Philadelphia cop, beats innocent bystander, frames them for murder*
"I'd like to see Crosby try THAT!"
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:12 (ten years ago) link
CROSBY: Ooooh! I eat cheesesteak sandwiches like you for BREAKFAST!
FREY: Oh yeah? I bet you have to EAT YOUR LUNCH ALL BY YOURSELF!
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
*claims he served in Vietnam*
"Like Stills would ever do this--oh wait..."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
imagining scenario where Frey buttonholes Thom Bell at a party and makes him listen to a rough mix of "Wasted Time." "we've beat you at your own game, man!"
― col, Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
"Wasted Time": Seems to me to be too labored. They've got some of the Philly moves down, but Henley is such a tight-ass singer here, with none of the ease or authority of Pendergrass, Phillippe Wynne etc. Henley supposedly played this over the phone to woo back an ex-girlfriend (she of "Hotel California" and leaving the Donster for Bernie Taupin fame) and she told him to fuck off despite his insistence that the song wasn't about his wasted time spent with her, but them together wasting time 'wasting time' (like watching tv or eating sandwhiches instead of doing blow and fucking, I guess). Smooth move ExLax.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
with none of the ease or authority of Pendergrass, Phillippe Wynne etc.
This is otmfm, and I actually like Henley's vocal here. But imagining Phillippe Wynne singing this...that would put this song on a whole other level.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 3 October 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
you know who could have killed with this song? guns n' roses.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 3 October 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
i don't think i EVER would have thought of philly soul if he didn't mention it in the interview.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 October 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link
someone else said it upthread but i too always thought this was a Henley solo jawn from like 1989
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
i think henley actually did invent the 80's with this song. or the 90's! a man with a vision.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
yeah i figured it was an album track off end of the innocense
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 October 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
I get them all confused, two in particular. One is "The Sad Cafe" and the other one isn't.
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
This is really excellent. Henley can sing. It isn't Philly Soul though; I guess it could pass as something at the Elton end of Elton's Philly Soul phase. Only with stiffer drumming. I like it a lot.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 3 October 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Philly Cream Cheese soul amirite
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
def prefer early poco-lite eagles to late period elton-eagles
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
but then i fucking hate elton john
FIELD REPORT: heard "Already Gone" on the radio on my way home from my first class today. I'll admit it. It sounded alright. I even sang along a little bit.
― Untt (La Lechera), Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
they were no hall & oates. let's put it that way.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 October 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
gourmet sandwich joint playing not terribly exciting live version of take it easy
― velko, Thursday, 3 October 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
'Gourmet' sandwich joint, or 'EAGLES' sandwich joint?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Once Frey shows up, it's an Eagles sandwich
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 3 October 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
Meisner and Leadon look at each other and go eewwwww.
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
http://memehuffer.typepad.com/meme_huffer/images/2007/08/29/rotten_sandwich.jpg
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
http://rollingspoon.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Don-Henley-Chili.jpg
― velko, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
Don Henley's beer...in a cowboy boot glass
― carl agatha, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Disgusting food, tacky beverage... but the flatware is actually kinda cool!
^ The Story of the Eagles, check local listings.
― pplains, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
Don Henley's crabs...in your underwear
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
suggest ban
― carl agatha, Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:51 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: Don Henley's crabs...in your underwear
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 October 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
New Crabs In Town
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
Life In The Crabs Lane
Tequila Crabrise
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
The Greeks Don't Want No Crabs
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Hotel Crabifornia
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
Crabby come lately the new crab in town
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
The Crab Cafe
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
Seven Crabs Road
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
Best of My Crabs
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
Journey of the Crabs
― col, Thursday, 3 October 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
Too Many Crabs (being laid on her)
― funk79, Thursday, 3 October 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
You can check out any time you like but you can never not have crabs
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 3 October 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
We haven't had those crabs here since 1969.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 3 October 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
i like the way your itchy crabs just chewon my puu-uubes so brown
― |citation needed| (will), Friday, 4 October 2013 00:03 (ten years ago) link
I've got a painful, itchy feeling
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2013 00:04 (ten years ago) link
IRL LOL! I've used up all my Eagles-hate, but am loving all the posts - thread delivers!
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 4 October 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/2Y97xLi.jpg
― sheesh, Friday, 4 October 2013 01:50 (ten years ago) link
sheesh is right
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Friday, 4 October 2013 02:00 (ten years ago) link
Crabco
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link
there's gonna be a vd tonight
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link
Hotel Chlamydia
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2013 02:14 (ten years ago) link
Their Crabbiest Hits
1. Take It Crabby2. Crabby Woman3. Lyin' Crabs4. Already Crabbed5. Craberado6. One of These Crabs7. Tequila Crabrise8. Crab It to the Limit9. Peaceful Crabby Feeling10. Crabs of My Love
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 4 October 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link
Itchay Woman
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2013 02:31 (ten years ago) link
http://www.history.com/images/media/slideshow/teddy-roosevelt/theodore-roosevelt-laughing.jpg
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link
"Wasted Time(Reprise)"
http://www.filmfestivalreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/The-Eagles-singing.jpg
http://youtu.be/ZkrVlhQYPn8
― scott seward, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link
oh great
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link
lol what is this, a royalties scam?! It's a coda, not a reprise, and it plainly doesn't have any Eagles on it.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
one of the odder pieces of sequencing on an Eagles album. Isn't the reprise supposed to come later on the album, not directly after the song it's bloody reprising? While it sorta works on vinyl, with "Wasted Time" closing side 1 and the reprise opening Side 2, on CD it's just "the track you skip to get to 'Victim of Love'"
― col, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, October 4, 2013 1:07 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
LOL that was my exact initial thought.
I like the reprise better than the actual song. It sounds like the closing credits music of an old movie.
― carl agatha, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
Wish this was a poll so I could rank this No. 1.
― pplains, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
Vinyl sure did make some bands feel clever. I keep noticing on the wiki articles that the Eagles were fond of inscribing the run-out groove.
― pplains, Friday, 4 October 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
Apparently, the Eagles owed arranger Jim Ed Norman a favor. Can't think of why the fuck else this is on here.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
Yet another way in which they prefigured Morrissey
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 October 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
This highway is so dark and desertedWind in my hair makes me depressed
― pplains, Friday, 4 October 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
This highway is so dark and desertedWind in my hair makes me depressedLa la la la la interesting drugthe one that you took
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
We hate it when our friends become The Eagles.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
The Last of the Famous International Eagles
― Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
Some Eagles Are Bigger Than Others
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6919/vlr8.jpg
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 4 October 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
Pretty Maids Make Graves
― pplains, Friday, 4 October 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
"I was looking for a job, and then I found a job. And heaven knows I'm miserable now." -- Don Felder
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
Haha man what a weird choice
These guys are pathologically bad at sequencing albums
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
& this was the one I figured was gonna be trump tight
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
Henley needs a reprise intervention
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
like it's not bad but yeah it's just like some syruppy old lite classical/movie music, doesn't really fit the album at all
i've never heard this actual album, i was kinda pulling for this to be their dark L.A. masterpiece like the title track
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 4 October 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
yeah I quite like it in and of itself, but as pleased with itself as the original version was, this is just Henley in a mirror looking in a mirror infinity style and it's kinda gross
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
Probably their most pretentious moment? It must have been high stroke for them to hear their melody performed that way. If this were the sixties, there would have been an "Irving Azoff Orchestra Plays The Hits of the Eagles" lp. If Bernie were still around, there'd be so much banjo up in this bitch. However, in the context of this thread, it's a nice Friday break.
Glenn: I't's not a strings interlude, it's an EAGLES strings interlude.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
Henley's their Bernstein, you guys. It totally makes sense.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 October 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 4 October 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
― first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, September 24, 2013 3:13 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not to derail, but I just found this piece on royalty amounts/distribution in the wake of "Baby Blue"'s Breaking Bad sales spike:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-04/breaking-badfinger-whos-gets-the-baby-blue-money#p1
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 4 October 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
^^SPOLIER ALERT!!!! (j/k I found out on fb like an hour after posting to the BB music thread)
On a related note, BESIDES the scene(s) in Lebowski and The Hitchhiker's Guide, has there been any other notable uses of Eagles music in Film/TV? "Lyin' Eyes" shows up in Urban Cowboy, and the cover band in the Ridgemont High dance scene does "Life In The Fast Lane", but that's all I've got.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
Oh, and The Simpsons used "New Kid In Town" once.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
"in the city" of course, though that predates the Eagles version. but yeah, otherwise drawing a blank. maybe Henley/F are too greedy and no one can afford to use their stuff
― col, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
Well at the time, "In The City" was still a Joe Walsh song, but I'll let it slide.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha, as soon as I posted that I thought, "Fuck, C. Grisso/McCain doesn't know what the song is yet!" But it was so crazily all over the news that I hoped you probably already knew.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
There's the Seinfeld episode where "Desperado" and "Witchy Woman" both play very prominent roles in the plot.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 4 October 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain)
hi derehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_kCR5yQpY0
xpost - damn you to hell
― balls, Friday, 4 October 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
Hah I watched that exact clip this morning, because "Witchy Woman" is stuck in my head and I was hoping it would exorcise me.
Love Jerry's "Don't you mean 'Witch-ay Woman'?"
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 4 October 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
There's that SCTV sketch "The Crusin' Gourmet" in which Dave Thomas dresses up in leathers and fist-stuffs the chained-up turkey while "Disco Strangler" plays. It's on youtube but the music may have been changed.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 4 October 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
I don't think I've seen that Seinfeld before. As for SCTV, they changed the music to some library rock piece: http://youtu.be/fmLfpoj5e84
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 October 2013 23:08 (ten years ago) link
!!! omg that makes me love that bit even more. never seen it with the original music
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 4 October 2013 23:11 (ten years ago) link
Damn :(
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 4 October 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
As if I could hate Henley/Frey even more...
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 4 October 2013 23:33 (ten years ago) link
Glenn: This is no longer the Eagles Cruising Gourmet.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE0Q904gtMI
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 5 October 2013 00:40 (ten years ago) link
"Victim Of Love"
http://m2.paperblog.com/i/66/663677/track-124-victim-of-love-the-eagles-L-xJJbM7.jpeg
http://youtu.be/FW3QuLxpqeo
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
joe has his rocky mountain way with this song which i appreciate, but i think i'd appreciate it even more if it were just a joe solo song. james gang or joe alone would have made it slinkier and funkier. again, the unfunky drummer kinda crashes his way through everything. ol' thudfoot henley. they should have just used session drummers. nobody would have cared.
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
god these guys would perceive themselves as victims of love don't they
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
The drumming's terrible here, yes
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
scott OTM: Henley is just dreadful on this one. The 12-yo kid down my street who practices drums after school every day plays livelier fills than what H does here (see 1:30 among others).
I like his singing better than on "Fast Lane," maybe because the lyric's just so condescending and sleazy (see the sociopolitical metaphor of "how come you still got his gun in your hand") and he lives up to the part. He's better than Felder would've been at least.
― col, Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
imagined Crowe interview
FREY: One morning I was in the hall of some Best Western and I saw some girl leave Henley's room. "Another victim of love," I thought. There it was!
HENLEY: A willing victim, heh.
― col, Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
FREY: I thought, "Well, gal, get ready for immortality." Don and I picked up our guitars and out came "Victim of Love." A lot faster, I gotta say, than that chick did.
HENLEY: Well, yeah.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
actually this is a group composition with souther but felder wrote all the guitar stuff not joe. sorry don. the guitar stuff sounds great.
been watching the felder/stern interview instead of working this morning...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvLFuTSec1g
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
I was so ready to take Felder's side on this one. Had to be humiliating where everyone gets their song to sing on the record, you go out for some drinks, come back, and Henley's made it into one of the other half-dozen leads he's got on the record.
But then you see
http://youtu.be/IOX09LT0L3E
Now that's 30 years later and everything, but I don't "Visions" was his admission ticket to being able to sing Victim of Love.
― pplains, Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
I forgot to post this one on Life in the Fast Lane day
http://youtu.be/2GJidFbtB44
Listen to that intro, still with the crackle and electricity of the old days. And then as soon as he goes into the verse, it's like What the hell just happened.
I say this as a bass player, but dude even sings like a bass player. Rigid stance in front of the mic, neck up to his left ear.
― pplains, Saturday, 5 October 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
they should have just used session drummers. nobody would have cared.
― scott seward, Saturday, October 5, 2013 9:03 AM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Haha, Henley mostly used session drummers and drum machines on his solo records! He finally owned up to his crapulence.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
There's something so fundamentally thuddy about Henley's approach that he could be playing tympani in an empty airplane hangar and it would still sound like a sack of flour dropped on a shag carpet.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
i think felder just plays for fun? he doesn't need the money. though that doesn't really explain all the live footage of him at crappy casinos and stuff.
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
Don Henley's drumming is just really unimaginative/uncreative! He doesn't try anything interesting afaict, just thud thud thud. I've got more verve that that guy does.
― Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
oops *than
Donny Thud Lately
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
its especially striking to me because i listen to thousands of 4th-tier 70's rock albums every year and soooooooo many bands had really good/decent/great drummers who could do lots of things on the drums. lots of albums then were hard rock/soft rock/funk track/disco track/etc and you had to be able to mix it up.
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 October 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link
henley was passable for the country-rock shit but one gets the sense that he never knew he was signing up to play in a band that would one day include joe walsh
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 5 October 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
I love the guitar on this - opening riff is so cool. And it's maybe one of my favorite Henley deliveries singing-wise but yeah the drum kinda kills it.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 October 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
I imagine it's really hard to play interesting drums while lead-singing, not that that's prevented a lot of people from accomplishing it.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 5 October 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
"Victim of Love": Another one I like. Seems like one of the most honest Eagles songs: they've dropped the phony sensitive boy schtick and revealed themselves as sleaze incarnate. "I could be wrong, but I'm not" is Henley's worldview in a nutshell. The drumming is leaden. When Walsh signed on, he tried to bring Joe Vitale on as a official member too, but he was only accepted as part of the road band. He would have been better here.
Roach fibbing a little to Crowe:
VICTIM OF LOVEGLENN: That’s an Eagles track with no overdubs. It’s five pieces, live. For a band that did a lot of overdubbing and a lot of editing, it was a neat thing to do. We just said, “Look, let’s just cut this thing live and this will be it. It’ll be what it is.”
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
mixing tenses beautifully there
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 October 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
OMG how did I forget about this.
― pplains, Saturday, 5 October 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
I just can't get into this song. I feel like somewhere between the irritating bounciness of Life in the Fast Lane and the overly contrived griminess of Victim of Love is the perfect song that I want to hear.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 5 October 2013 19:21 (ten years ago) link
Five guys riffing in the studio *except that whole taking Felder out to the woodshed so Henley could do vocals*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 October 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
i can't believe i'm saying this...but i might actually be the first person to crack under the pressure. of this thread. i am so sick of the eagles. i'll pull through. but i have a james gang cd on in the store and it sounds so amazing. what a great band.
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
Knowing that The Long Run is up next is why I'm still here.
Knowing that Hell Freezes Over East of Eden or whatever lurks after that, that's what gives me the cold shakes.
― pplains, Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:22 (ten years ago) link
hold on, man! we're almost through the "classic" era. The real killing ground will be the 20 (!) tracks on "Long Road Out of Eden"
― col, Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
exactly!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
By then we'll all be too busy being fabulous.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
by the time this is over all of us will have identical little poodle head henley perms
― Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:32 (ten years ago) link
god "Victim of Love" smothers me with its offhand sexism, dull drumming, tired riffs, and offhand sexism.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
scott otm, james gang makes me look at the Eagles and go WTF did you fuckers DO to him
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
I've been making a playlist of keepers as we go along and it's become my default listening of choice, so I'm in to the bitter end here
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
now i know what all those people were talking about when they said they hated the eagles. i always thought it was just kinda fashionable to hate the eagles like being scared of clowns or hating mimes. but, man...they were really something. i really only knew the hits. i never really listened to the albums.
― scott seward, Saturday, 5 October 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
This is why Their Greatest Hits is their big seller. No one can listen to their albums.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 5 October 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
my feelings about the eagles have remained more or less the same throughout this neverending torture experiment, which is why i wonder why i keep listening. there have been days i have ignored it, but i keep coming back. i guess no one has ever given me a forum in which to discuss how much i hate the eagles, so here we are.
― Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 October 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
Ha, one day we are going to be out together and an Eagles song will come on and we'll both start crying and nobody will know why.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 5 October 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
And we can't tell them why either.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
found electrocuted in a bathtub just as "James Dean" fades out on the radio
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 October 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
"Too fast to live, too wet to dry"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
This is the weakest "classic" era of a big classic rock band.... Sheesh. I was honestly expecting Hotel California to be an impressive all killer Rumours type thing
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 October 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
Can you imagine a "The Chain" string reprise on Rumours?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 October 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown),
^ this. I'm shocked actually.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 01:18 (ten years ago) link
Searched the thread and didn't see any reference to the old live clip of "Hotel California" they used to play on early MTV. Anyone know what that was from or where I could see it now? (Not on youtube as far as i could tell)
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 6 October 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
that was a promo video they made. pre-mtv promo video. to help sell the album overseas and everywhere. i guess it worked. if you listen to felder they were not livin' large until hotel california. then they blew up. but when they were making the album they were not money in the bank yet. i still want to see that new documentary. that's how sick i am...
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 01:27 (ten years ago) link
you mean the documentary from last year? it's a really really good rock documentary, and liking the band is not at all a prerequisite for watching it.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Sunday, 6 October 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link
you need to see the doc, skot
it might get you through another album at least -- I dunno that it'll get you to the end, I dunno if any of us will survive that...but it's worth a watch for sure
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 03:14 (ten years ago) link
Are you talking about this one, Iago?
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1971g_eagles-hotel-california_music
― pplains, Sunday, 6 October 2013 04:26 (ten years ago) link
And I'm sorry, I can't stand hearing their Seven Bridges Road.
Same as everyone else for me as for everyone else - it's like Don was awakened at 4 a.m. and reminded he needed to overdub a drum part before the tapes are sent out for final mixdown this morning.
"Wasted Time (Reprise)" is like side two of Yellow Submarine condensed into one track.
― Lee626, Sunday, 6 October 2013 05:44 (ten years ago) link
"Pretty Maids All In A Row"
http://rpseawright.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/walsh_joe_mad_g_mp_576.jpg
http://youtu.be/4h11GolBkh8
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
*gasface*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QwCt3eV28EA/TSzlZa-0mZI/AAAAAAAAB9w/A_5RqQSCHq8/s1600/pretty-maids-all-in-a-row-movie-poster-1020237753.jpg
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
^ made tarantino's sight & sound ballot
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
features gram parson's widow as one of the pretty maids
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
this song is a begging for a (reprise)!
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
movie stars rock hudson as a hs football coach/guidance counselor who likes fucking his students. he also tries to help a hardup virgin dorkwad student by trying to set him up w/ angie dickinson, a substitute teacher. also features telly savalas, a cop hunting a serial killer who's been knocking off hot hs girls. *spoiler* rock hudson is apparently the serial killer. scottie from star trek is also in this.
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
song's alright, decent album track. curious what it would've sounded like as solo walsh.
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
This tune's okay - as unmemorable as any other 'gles filler, but more saccharine so I like it better. At least it's something.
otm about the shocking barrenness of their imperial phase though. I guess that's because the imperial phase is the Greatest Hits plus one single, which they somehow managed to spin into a rock legend, so you assume there must've been something behind the curtain all along.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
wait
i had this mixed up with another (-future-) track
this is ok. a bit sugary but nice enough. would it have been more guitary as a joe solo song?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
"scottie from star trek is also in this."
Gene Roddenberry, writer/producer of 'Pretty Maids,' looking out for his family.
it's weird that you get Walsh in the band but rather than having him tear it up on some rocker, he gets the sad waltz. It's like trading for Reggie Jackson and using him as a utility infielder. You get the sense that "Life's Been Good" was something he had but was like, 'nah, this is too good for the Eagles.'
― col, Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles are the north korea of rock
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 14:59 (ten years ago) link
lol didn't notice roddenberry produced it. this was vadim's next movie after barbarella, which kinda shocked me cuz i figured it was a ways down the line. crazy that the director of barbarella and the creator of star trek team up soon after and make an overegged forerunner to 80s teen sex comedies. i watched a few clips online, it's as awful and horrifying as you imagine, angie looks great though.
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
and yeah have zero doubt that he was saving the best stuff for solo albums. apparently this got cut from the long run - http://youtu.be/y8vOK6fuX9o - and then he reworked it for there goes the neighborhood.
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
You get the sense that "Life's Been Good" was something he had but was like, 'nah, this is too good for the Eagles.'
Wonder who threw who a bone that it shows up on the Live album?
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
Was a real-life childhood friend of my grandfather! (true)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 6 October 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Hahahahaha. This should be a t-shirt, a bumper sticker, and on a banner flown behind a plane over every single one of their concerts.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 October 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
Are you talking about this one, Iago?http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1971g_eagles-hotel-california_music― pplains, Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:26 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― pplains, Sunday, October 6, 2013 12:26 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Thanks, pplains--that's it....and thanks Scott for the background
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:23 (ten years ago) link
"Life's Been Good" was easily the highlight of the show I had to review in '03. He wore a miner's helmet to signify his commitment to goofiness or something.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles are the north korea of rock― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, October 6, 2013 10:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post PermalinkHahahahaha. This should be a t-shirt, a bumper sticker, and on a banner flown behind a plane over every single one of their concerts.― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, October 6, 2013 11:49 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, October 6, 2013 11:49 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Where's my "Glenn Frey Looking At Things" tumblr?
Anyway, "Pretty Maids All In A Row": This sounds like Wings. I had that nice James Gang Greatest Hits set in the truck changer last week and you forget how McCartney-esque Walsh can be ("Midnight Man") so this isn't a surprise. It seems very Eagles that they bring Walsh in and allow him to make Henley/Frey songs rock, but forbid him to do so on his own showcase. As slow Joe songs go, this is on the less-memorable side.
I picked up the Pretty Maids movie awhile back in a Warner archive sale, but have yet to screen. If I remember I'll dig it up and check it out tonight.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 October 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
I loved the movie - lotharios in cinema are compelling, and an oft-played archetype for secretly gay matinee idol Hudson (cf. Warren Beatty in 'Shampoo', for one; David Duchovny in several roles starting with 'New Year's Day').
The song is sweet, though kind of dated -- better than most of the ballads that hit the charts that year.(and fwiw 'Life's Been Good' was always a Joe song to me, never an Eagles song)
― Danelectro, Sunday, 6 October 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
Wow. I'm almost mad at you guys for pointing out Henley's terrible drumming. It's like when someone says "do you hear that annoying beeping" but you hadn't noticed before then it's all you can hear.
Victim of Love, wow the drumming is just so terrible... No energy or creativity or flair. The choice to isolate some of those amateur hour fills is really puzzling
Pretty Maids I like OK! rare instance of then doing an unlikely and inspired choice. Song would seem to be perfect for Henley but have Joe's far less perfect voice gives the song a nice character, would have seemed too easy listening with Henley
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 October 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
Henley plays guitar or keyboards too, so who knows if maybe he only became reluctant drummer by default, like McCartney on bass. (Except Paul became a fabulous bassist, of course.)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
Another little detail that was really driving me up a wall with Victim of Love was that that faux improvised way Henley says "....no I'm not" after "I could be wrong but I'm not" it's like dude I get it you are right stfu already
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
Xpost maybe... But his sticking with it is odd. I mean they were certainly willing to make changes to the lineup to correct what they thought were deficiencies...It had to be pretty obvious that Henley wasn't that God as a drummer, plus it was a liability live to stick essentially lead singer and leader behind the kit...
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
According to the doc, Henley started drumming from an early age, and it was definitely his instrument of choice.
The problem with his playing is that it's the very definition of "serviceable" -- it rarely overtly detracts from the song, and he plays the absolute bare minimum required to keep the song together. It's not even "good enough" -- it's just "enough."
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
Henley plays guitar or keyboards too, so who knows if maybe he only became reluctant drummer by default,
Not particularly proficient on any of these either: he's a songwriter dabbling with instruments. Except he's only written a handful of songs on his own. What a strange career.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
i apologize for picking on Kiss one more time, but listening to some eagles reminds me of how i feel about some Kiss songs. like, why isn't this song MOVING correctly? like its a beat too slow or the groove is too soggy and you want it to speed up or just have more life in it. the difference being that nobody in Kiss was that great of a musician and at least with eagles - all through their discography - you get these really good guitarists filling in the blanks. or blank spots. and they take your mind of the deficiencies.
― scott seward, Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
no you're absolutely right, they're maddening in the same ways but for diff reasons
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Giving Victim of Love another chance and yeah, I totally see the frustration - the guitars are doing all the right things but the drumming and to a lesser extent the vocal, it's like seeing a falcon tethered to a perch. No that's too noble, it's like seeing a sports car that's been clamped.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
kiss are the worst. I keep trying them again and again...
― brimstead, Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:46 (ten years ago) link
I like Kiss mostly bc they were the first band I ever worshipped as a kidBut their catalog is full of dire terribleness
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
Glenn & Don are more amusing douches then Gene too.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 6 October 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
i think frey & henley are just more in the closet abt their inherent gene-ness. they pretend they are not douches while gene just IS a douche 24/7
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
there is nothing i love about the eagles - not 'i can't tell you why', not the intro to 'one of these nights', not that 8 yr old canadian girl singing 'desperado' - that i love anywhere near as much as i love imitating paul stanley
― balls, Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:19 (ten years ago) link
I haven't seen any evidence of Simmons hiding his doucheness!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
― brimstead, Sunday, October 6, 2013 5:46 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
On record, there's barely anything to get into (I'll rep for Alive!, though). But live, they put on a fun and exciting show, and I appreciate the fact that their live aesthetic was entirely developed as a response to, as Simmons put it, "those San Francisco bands that wore torn jeans and turn their backs on the audience."
But yeah, Simmons is a douche, but at least he's up front about it. Frey and Henley are duplicitous, deceitful, entitled douches.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
Add narcissistic, mediocre, boring
― Untt (La Lechera), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:52 (ten years ago) link
not even any kakuki makeup to distract you
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:53 (ten years ago) link
kabuki
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 October 2013 22:54 (ten years ago) link
So I screened Pretty Maids All In A Row tonight...balls description upthread basically otm. As nutty early '70s movies go, it's definitely couple notches below Beyond the Valley of The Dolls, Prime Cut, Harold & Maude and Brewster McCloud. The non-Rock lead is sub-Bud Cort. Telly Savalas is auditioning for "Kojak". Angie's smokin'. Loads more 70s babes too: Joy Bang, Barbara Leigh (as Rock's wife!), June Fairchild (earlier the jumper in Head and later Eastwood's hooker in Thunderbolt and Lightfoot and the Ajax lady in Up In Smoke).
Has a fantastic Osmonds track as a theme, way better on all counts than alot of this Eagles stuff: http://youtu.be/zxsi_DQ7gIM (there's a faster and even better version that plays over the end credits)
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 October 2013 02:40 (ten years ago) link
that's a good osmonds album. that album has good country rock on it. or good ersatz jackson five country rock anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo5RsfsxzY0
― scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
Best Kiss record BY FAR = Ace's first solo joint.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 7 October 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 October 2013 03:46 (ten years ago) link
and like i said earlier, i saw ace play in a bar in brewster, new york and he was awesome.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link
Some of my favourite Kissongs were all Ace's too! "Rocket Ride", "Shock Me"...
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 7 October 2013 03:55 (ten years ago) link
"Try And Love Again"
http://i924.photobucket.com/albums/ad88/whitcap91/Randy/cap085-2.jpg
http://youtu.be/8LNXk0Q3N2s
― scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
another classic....
from the classic era...
from this classic band...
I like this song! I legitimately like this song. I like Randy's voice and the guitar riff and the "Ohhhh ohh ohh ohh ohhhhs" and the "Gonna try gonna try gonna try" and the nice way it fades out at the end and the lyrics are unobjectionable.
― carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
I had a dream about this thread last night, btw. The regular participants were sitting around a large picnic table on a train and scott put on the daily Eagles song, but it was one from the dreaded upcoming albums and we all just looked at each other unhappily, unable to even summon up the energy to talk about it.
― carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
(I was on the train commuting to my job as a basketball coach at an all-girls private high school, btw. I don't know where the rest of you were going.)
― carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
ave et vale, Randy. You will be replaced by a more pliable edition.
This is fine, mellow gold Seventies stuff, meant to be heard pleasantly murmuring over the PA at some lakeside bar: it could be Dan Fogelberg; Loggins and Messina; Randy: it's all good. As usual, the guitars are ace.
― col, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
yeah, this is the best song on the record for me after "New Kid" and the title track.
― col, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
mellow gold Seventies stuff
Ah, bingo. That's why I like it so much.
― carl agatha, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
DC FATTBOY 4 months agolove Randy's soulful, high-pitched vocals and Don Felder's ringing/chiming guitar. to me the eagles stopped being eagles when Randy and Bernie left. from then on they were more like Fleetwood Mac. sorry, I just like the originals. Desperado was one of the best concept albums of all time
I'm almost getting a Big Star feeling off this, somewhere between "My Life Is Right" and "Try Again." Kinda digging it; unlike Glenley lyrics, you don't get the sense that the sensitivity is masking douchey motives.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
I could tell it was a Randy song because as good as it is, I checked the YouTube timer to see how if it was almost done and saw that it still had two minutes left.
Farewell, bass playin' Poco man. It will be impossible to replace you.
― pplains, Monday, 7 October 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
Randy's hair is so perfect in that picture!
This song is ok, he sounds enough like Chris Bell that I can deal with ignoring the lyrics, but as soon as I try to pay attention to what he's saying, he does some little totally Eagles vocal flourish and i realize what I'm doing: I'm somewhat enjoying an Eagles song.
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 7 October 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
ha i just went back and read two posts upexactly -- everything was good until the illusion broke that took ~ 2min
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 7 October 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
i've said this elsewhere but i really like try and love again! it's a song i would actually choose to listen to once in a while.
re: pretty maids, the comment that it's better with walsh's voice than it would have been with henley's is right on. i also think i just really hate henley's voice.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 7 October 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
love the intro guitar lick on this song.
totally hear the Big Star comparison someone made on the "one. by. one. the lonely feelings come" part
this is one of my favorite album tracks so far.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
what was the other eagles song we heard that reminded me of big star? i can't remember now. it was an early one.
― scott seward, Monday, 7 October 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah i know what you're talking about but can't remember either
my brain's not the same as when we began this journey
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 7 October 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
iirc, it was something off the first record.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 October 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
ctrl + f "chris bell"
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 7 October 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
This is another good one. I was four minutes in before checking to see if was ending. That said, the coda isn't as pointless as previous ones in the catalogue. See ya Randy...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
is this a bad rip or does the volume really drop precipitously at 2:38?
me too, getting mostly a Poco/Firefall vibe off this one, but yeah it could just as easily have been the uncredited track left off Radio City in favour of "Back of a Car"
― Shut Down, vol. 3 (Lee626), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
(xxp) also ctrl + f "try again"
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Monday, 7 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
I'm sorry Randy but I cannot get with this one at all. It is the boringest kind of music I can imagine. I've tried listening to Big Star and reached the same conclusion - it is one place where the ILM cosmos and I will never meet.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 7 October 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
Speed
I said listen driverI can't afford the fare.
You can get off when you want to,but I cannot stop it here.
Slow it down now captain,that chick just missed her stop.
Can you feel the pressure in the air?this bus is going to pop.
We have to keep it moving,or else we might explode.
This ride will be the death of us,a bomb's a heavy load.
― Zachary Taylor, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 05:50 (ten years ago) link
Okay, I've got it out of my system. This thread's just got me thinking about metaphors.
Stepping onto the asphalt,plastic bags in the air.
Cashier say I've still got time,He can still sell beer.
I wander through aisleways,Look at all of those fruits.
bought some Negro Modelo,pack of Phillies Cheroots.
― Zachary Taylor, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:32 (ten years ago) link
Glenn: It's not a trip to the corner store, it's an EAGLES trip to the corner store.Timothy: Can you get me some pretzels?Don: Quiet you!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 06:46 (ten years ago) link
The Gashlycrumb Eagles
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 07:48 (ten years ago) link
Okay, the next one actually IS a doozy
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:15 (ten years ago) link
It's the one called "pretentious and condescending" by Robert Christgau.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 09:16 (ten years ago) link
I'm waiting for the knives to come out...
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 10:04 (ten years ago) link
"The Last Resort"
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/eaglesGEFnoscore.jpg
http://youtu.be/RG-XBz1tjIU
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 12:48 (ten years ago) link
She came from Providence, the one in Rhode Island Where the old world shadows hang heavy in the air She packed her hopes and dreams like a refugee Just as her father came across the sea
She heard about a place people were smilin' They spoke about the red man's way, and how they loved the land And they came from everywhere to the Great Divide Seeking a place to stand or a place to hide
Down in the crowded bars, out for a good time, Can't wait to tell you all, what it's like up there And they called it paradise I don't know why Somebody laid the mountains low while the town got high
Then the chilly winds blew down Across the desert through the canyons of the coast, to the Malibu Where the pretty people play, hungry for power to light their neon way and give them things to do
Some rich men came and raped the land, Nobody caught 'em Put up a bunch of ugly boxes, and Jesus, people bought 'em And they called it paradise The place to be They watched the hazy sun, sinking in the sea
You can leave it all behind and sail to Lahaina just like the missionaries did, so many years ago They even brought a neon sign: "Jesus is coming" Brought the white man's burden down Brought the white man's reign
Who will provide the grand design? What is yours and what is mine? 'Cause there is no more new frontier We have got to make it here
We satisfy our endless needs and justify our bloody deeds, in the name of destiny and the name of God
And you can see them there, On Sunday morning They stand up and sing about what it's like up there They call it paradise I don't know why You call someplace paradise, kiss it goodbye
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
The Eagles do privilege
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
"She came from Providence,the one in Rhode Island"
move over, Wallace Stevens
― col, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey told Redbeard on an episode of In the Studio with Redbeard (which devoted an entire episode to the making of Hotel California) “I have to give all the credit for "The Last Resort" to (Don) Henley. It was the first time that Don, on his own, took it upon himself to write an epic story. We were very much at that time, concerned about the environment and doing anti-nuclear benefit (concerts). It seemed the perfect way to wrap up all of the different topics we had explored on the Hotel California album. Don found himself as a lyricist with that song, kind of outdid himself...We're constantly screwing up paradise and that was the point of the song and that at some point there is going to be no more new frontiers. I mean we're putting junk, er, garbage into space now. There's enough crap floating around the planet that we can't even use so it just seems to be our way. It's unfortunate but that is sort of what happens".
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
In a 1978 interview with Rolling Stone, Henley said: "'The Last Resort', on Hotel California, is still one of my favorite songs... That's because I care more about the environment than about writing songs about drugs or love affairs or excesses of any kind. The gist of the song was that when we find something good, we destroy it by our presence — by the very fact that man is the only animal on earth that is capable of destroying his environment. The environment is the reason I got into politics: to try to do something about what I saw as the complete destruction of most of the resources that we have left. We have mortgaged our future for gain and greed."
Poor Randy looks like he's getting pushed right off the sofa
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
when we find something good, we destroy it by our presence
I believe that was printed on their satin tour jackets that year.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
If anything on here, I'm justifying my Eagles hate.
Not sure if it's worth sitting through seven minutes and twenty-eight seconds of how the west was wasted.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
more leaden drumming, a non-melody endlessly repeated, 7:28 minutes long ... welcome to the Hotel Califillernia
― Brad C., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
He found his voice alright: Henley's been bitching and moaning about lost paradise ever since
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
More than 25 tracks left and we haven't even started The Long Run yet, I'm starting to get the "check in any time you'd like...." feeling.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
― Brad C., Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:33 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yep. Awesome track. Audacious in its douchbaggery.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
"man is the only animal on earth that is capable of destroying his environment"
ever owned a dog, Don?
ugh, this track is the slog to end all slogs. It's merciless. The trudging pace. Henley singing the same phrase ("call it PAR-uh-DISE...she came from PROV-uh-DENCE"...light their NEE-on-WAY") over and over again and again. The schlocky accompaniment of the Irving Azoff Light Orchestra. The sense that Henley got the idea for the lyric while griping about an ugly new luxury condo being built down the road from "The Eagles' Nest." The knowledge that this is the start of the line that leads to the high ponderousness of "End of the Innocence" and scores of other such songs.
― col, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
The Last Resort. The Sad Cafe. The Sunset Grill. The Abandoned Luncheonette, o wait.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
This is horrific, everyone otm.
Farewell Hotel California, I will never hear you again. Amazing to see this upthread: this album/aja/rumours. the holy trinity of FM sound. It doesn't even *sound* that good.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
god from the mopey opening piano ripped off from "Imagine" to the hackneyed "gear shift" with Hollywood strings, this is a total fuckin' piece of shit. Wow.
Honestly, I think some of these I'm hating even more than I would otherwise because of all these posted snippets of interviews where Frey or Henley sit there and "explain" their painfully obvious "metaphors" like a fuckin' jr. college professor, one of the things that will most burn me up in life is being condescended to by a really stupid person and the Eagles are basically the musical version of that experience. They are so fuckin' shallow and mediocre and just not that good at what they do but they have this totally unjustified smugness about their own supposed quality.
also the whole idea of "i'm going to write an epic" - that's like trying to give yourself a "cool nickname" is high school u idiot.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
"It doesn't even *sound* that good."
i meant the singles. the singles will always sound great on fm radio.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
Put like that I'm astonished they could put this on the same album as the title track, an actual epic, and not see the difference.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
i mean, they were truly made for it. those singles. i hate to say it but the car radio may have been invented to play something like life in the fast lane. its just the optimal sound for the fm frequency. a scientist could tell you why probably.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
scott, is the Xmas single up next, or does Long Run start? (forget the order when they came out)
― col, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
Hey remember that awesome Walsh/Felder guitar outro on Hotel California
ITS DEAD WE KILLED IT WHY COS WE'RE THE EAGLES MAAAAAAN
MWAHAHAHAHA
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
The line from this to "The End of the Innocence" is complete.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link
the henleybot-1000 is complete
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
"scott, is the Xmas single up next"
yup
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
I am a sucker for epic songs and there were a couple of times on this one where I perked up and thought "Now there are the makings of a seriously epic song!" but it is a promise that never delivered. Also the lyrics. Also Henley. I'd like someone to take the parts of this that I liked and use them in another, better song.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
i bet Walsh fell asleep in the studio listening to the upteenth playback of this epic
― col, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 16:51 (ten years ago) link
"The Last Resort": I don't like this one. The opening line is sooooooooooo dopey, and goes down from there. Every once in a while the arrangement feels Jimmy Webb-ish. But...no. We're a long way from "MacArthur Park", much less standin' on that corner in Winslow.
Explaining themselves to the autuer behind Singles:
THE LAST RESORTGLENN: “The Last Resort” was the final piece of the Hotel Californiapuzzle. We started the song early in the record, and Don finished seven months later. I called it Henley’s opus. I helped describe what the song was going to be about and assisted with the arrangement, but it was Don’s lyrics and basic chord progression.One of the primary themes of the song was that we keep creating what we’ve been running away from — violence, chaos, destruction. We migrated to the East Coast, killed a bunch of Indians, and just completely screwed that place up. Then we just kept moving west: “Move those teepees, we got some train tracks coming through here. Get outta the way, boy!” There were some very personal references in the song, including a girl from Providence, Rhode Island, who Don had dated for some time. She had taken an inheritance from her grandfather and moved to Aspen, Colorado, in search of a new life. Look where Aspen is now. How prophetic is “The Last Resort” 28 years after it was written? Aspen is a town where the billionaires have driven out the millionaires. It was once a great place. Look at Lahaina; look at Maui. It’s so commercial. It’s everything Hawaii was not supposed to be. Whether we’re carrying the cross or carrying the gasoline cane, we seem to have a penchant for wrecking beautiful places.DON: The final burst on this one happened in Benedict Canyon at a house I was living in with Irving [Azoff, the band's longtime manager and friend]. I was thinking of all the literary themes based on nature that I had studied back in school — the awesome beauty and the spirituality inherent in the natural world and the unrelenting destruction of it, wrought by this thing that we call civilization or progress.Some years earlier we had done a couple of benefit concerts with Neil Young for the Chumash Tribe, Native American people who are indigenous to California. We became friends with an elder in the tribe named Samu, and, eventually, we were invited to attend some tribal rituals and drum ceremonies. Samu was on a mission to raise funds for an education program which would teach the young people in the tribe about their language and their culture. The old man feared, rightly, that the white man’s culture was stripping his people of their identity. They were losing the memory of their language, their ceremonies, their history. We were fortunate enough to be able to help.Also, I’d been reading articles and doing research about the raping and pillaging of the West by mining, timber, oil and cattle interests. But I was interested in an even larger scope for the song, so I tried to go “Michener” with it. I remember going out to Malibu and standing on Zuma beach, looking out at the ocean. I remember thinking, “this is about as far west — with the exception of Alaska — as you can go on this continent. This is where Manifest Destiny ends — right here, in the middle of all these surfboards and volleyball nets and motor homes.” And then I thought, “Nah, we’ve gone right on over and screwed up Hawaii too.”I still think, though, that the song was never fully realized, musically speaking. It’s fairly pedestrian from a musical point of view. But lyrically it’s not bad. Especially the last verse, which turns it from one thing into another and it becomes an allegorical statement about religion — the deception and destructiveness that is inherent in the mythology of most organized religion — the whole “dominion” thing. The song is a reaffirmation of the age-old idea that everything in the universe is connected and that there are consequences, downstream, for everything we do.
One of the primary themes of the song was that we keep creating what we’ve been running away from — violence, chaos, destruction. We migrated to the East Coast, killed a bunch of Indians, and just completely screwed that place up. Then we just kept moving west: “Move those teepees, we got some train tracks coming through here. Get outta the way, boy!” There were some very personal references in the song, including a girl from Providence, Rhode Island, who Don had dated for some time. She had taken an inheritance from her grandfather and moved to Aspen, Colorado, in search of a new life. Look where Aspen is now. How prophetic is “The Last Resort” 28 years after it was written? Aspen is a town where the billionaires have driven out the millionaires. It was once a great place. Look at Lahaina; look at Maui. It’s so commercial. It’s everything Hawaii was not supposed to be. Whether we’re carrying the cross or carrying the gasoline cane, we seem to have a penchant for wrecking beautiful places.
DON: The final burst on this one happened in Benedict Canyon at a house I was living in with Irving [Azoff, the band's longtime manager and friend]. I was thinking of all the literary themes based on nature that I had studied back in school — the awesome beauty and the spirituality inherent in the natural world and the unrelenting destruction of it, wrought by this thing that we call civilization or progress.
Some years earlier we had done a couple of benefit concerts with Neil Young for the Chumash Tribe, Native American people who are indigenous to California. We became friends with an elder in the tribe named Samu, and, eventually, we were invited to attend some tribal rituals and drum ceremonies. Samu was on a mission to raise funds for an education program which would teach the young people in the tribe about their language and their culture. The old man feared, rightly, that the white man’s culture was stripping his people of their identity. They were losing the memory of their language, their ceremonies, their history. We were fortunate enough to be able to help.
Also, I’d been reading articles and doing research about the raping and pillaging of the West by mining, timber, oil and cattle interests. But I was interested in an even larger scope for the song, so I tried to go “Michener” with it. I remember going out to Malibu and standing on Zuma beach, looking out at the ocean. I remember thinking, “this is about as far west — with the exception of Alaska — as you can go on this continent. This is where Manifest Destiny ends — right here, in the middle of all these surfboards and volleyball nets and motor homes.” And then I thought, “Nah, we’ve gone right on over and screwed up Hawaii too.”
I still think, though, that the song was never fully realized, musically speaking. It’s fairly pedestrian from a musical point of view. But lyrically it’s not bad. Especially the last verse, which turns it from one thing into another and it becomes an allegorical statement about religion — the deception and destructiveness that is inherent in the mythology of most organized religion — the whole “dominion” thing. The song is a reaffirmation of the age-old idea that everything in the universe is connected and that there are consequences, downstream, for everything we do.
I wonder if Henley ever paid a hooker to beat him with copies of Michener hardbacks?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:01 (ten years ago) link
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― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
I still think, though, that the song was never fully realized, musically speaking. It’s fairly pedestrian from a musical point of view.
Henley otm
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link
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― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
I bet those injuns were better on the skins than our Donster.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
hahaha.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
Glenn: They made us honorary members of the tribe, and we were given names. Don's was "Plays With Stiffness"!
Don: And Glenn's was "Big Face Talking Phallus"!
Randy: Those weren't tribal elders doing the ceremony. I think it was some drunk teenagers.
Don: You're on thin ice, "Sings Like Chipmunk"!
Felder: I think he's right about those teenagers.
Glenn: Shut up, "Ass I'm Gonna Kick"!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
So after this I cranked up a random track on Rumours (You Make Loving Fun) and I gotta say the difference is startling. There isn't a way in which this isn't inferior - it's just so flabby, like the bloated corpse of the worst kind of complacent 70s rockstar. Not a second of the Fleets' is wasted, there's always something interesting and new happening; with The Eagles *every* second is wasted, it's all this-and-hold-for-four-bars, then change to that-and-hold-for-four-bars, then repeat. Even the intro bores me.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
Glenn: I'll tell ya what: that bucktoothted squaw that Henley fucked? She was "Ass in the Air"!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
"DON: I was thinking of all the literary themes based on nature that I had studied back in school"
"White Fang"? "Last of the Mohicans"?
in re: comparing Hotel Calif. to "Rumours." You put most of "HC" against Eddie Money's debut album, and the latter sounds like gold by comparison.
― col, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
or bat out of hell for that matter. or the stranger. speaking of 1977. and the stranger even had a (reprise).
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
speaking of 1977 FM gold anyway.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
(technically HC a '76 album but it came out in december so you know...)
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
Well that changes everything.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
two months after HC came came out, rumours came out.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
and a few months before, songs in the key of life came out. which may be a better analog to rumours and aja.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
This is my brain problem, apparently, but I like this song.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
Hey now, I'm a 'fucking' jr college professor' and I'm not only smarter than Don Henley, but I play the drums with more feeling than he does. I'm glad others are finally feeling the real burn of the Eagles -- being condescended to by someone stupid!! It's the worst. They remain the worst.
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
La Lechera - i sincerely did not mean to lump professors in with Don. please accept my apoligies. that's a horrible thing to do actually now that i think of it. :(
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm not offended, but we do get a bum rap. No harm done!
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
You know who else got a bum rap? The red man.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
This changed Don's life: http://youtu.be/j7OHG7tHrNM
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
I am going to be so intrigued to learn what you guys think of the cocaine psychosis called the Long Run. There are two songs in particular, deep —and deeply hypocritical— cuts, that I will be really surprised if many of you guys hate it like you hate most of their shit…
what about eagles Live?
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
I'm gonna risk becoming a figure of fun on ilx and go on record that I actually like the final verse. "Call anywhere paradise and kiss it goodbye" is kind of sharp IMO.
Of course, the song as a whole is loaded with groaners. But at least it feels felt in comparison with most Henley.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Xpost I think we should at least cover the exclusives on Live: two solo Walsh numbers and "Seven Bridges Road".
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
the latter-day live album has four studio tracks i think? will definitely cover those. if there is studio stuff on the first live album than yeah otherwise i might have to put my foot down...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
Is the plan to head through all of the "unplugged" versions? Keep in mind that the days are getting darker sooner.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
jesus they didn't have an unplugged album did they? no, i just wanted to do all the studio stuff. to hell with any live stuff. it would kill us all.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
yeah i agree - only studio stuff
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
Know what's worse than hearing "Hotel California" so many times that you begin to actively hate it?
Hearing the unplugged version even more.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:00 (ten years ago) link
man i'm so exhausted by the eagles and i know the true challenges have only begun.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
They're really pushing the boundaries of what studio can do atm, seems a shame to sully it with inferior live stuff.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
The live album wasn't that 'live' if you catch my drift...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, especially because the paradise referred to in that stanza is heaven, so it's quite a decent gag about gentrification in the afterlife.. or alternatively a cogent point about how religious ideas are simply a reflection of social culture.
Otm about groaners tho
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:05 (ten years ago) link
Also: if we do the three bait tracks on the '80 album, that puts three more days in before we get to "Get Over It".
Think about it.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
hate will keep us alive
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
wow. i'm reasonably sure i've never heard "the last resort" until five minutes ago. there's the beginning of a song there, sort of, but it goes terribly awry before they get to the end of the first verse.
i totally get how a song as poorly written and executed as this could wind up on an early album by any number of major bands -- there's plenty worse out there -- but i'm genuinely curious as to how a song like this could wind up on their signature album, on the album they made at the peak of their career. was there no one in the studio that day who could raise their hand and suggest another chord here or another lick there? was there no one who could hide in a corner and come up with a "journey of the sorceror" or something as a replacement while everyone else was eating lunch or screwing drunken teenagers? had they lost j.d. souther's number?
do people who own this album even today know that it's there? i mean no one actually gets all the way to track nine, do they?
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
tomorrow: my favorite Eagles song!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
yeah that's the thing - i mean they were part of that whole so-cal/soft/country rock/geffen axis so it's like goddamn they had access & the cash to get songs from some of the most killer pro songwriters.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
"We started the song early in the record, and Don finished seven months later."
i'd like to think that it actually took him seven months to record the song.
it feels like it takes seven months to listen to it anyway.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
"tomorrow: my favorite Eagles song!"
everyone loves christmas songs!
they had access & the cash to get songs from some of the most killer pro songwriters.
"desperados under the eaves" would have been an awesome song to end this album with.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
Frey-Henley would argue that J.D. Souther was a killer pro songwriter.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:26 (ten years ago) link
i'm not saying he wasn't i'm saying get MORE stuff from him! instead of the last resort!
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 8 October 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
I was waiting, or more like laying in wait, for this one. (and the first track on the next LP) It is an epic, for sure ... I like the lyrics, but as with most Eagles tracks, the production and arrangement are annoying, not to mention Henley's stretching for the next faux-sincere note. (he just about finds the right touch when he launches into that 'You can leave it all behind ...' verse, though)Second thought, were this a democratic band, Randy shoulda sung it.I always thought this aspired to be a gospel song, not a soul song. And in the early verses, don't those keyboards seem to have trouble keeping up with the slowwwwww steady pace?
Going back a song, 'Try and Love Again' is a pretty good Randy song, that could benefit by being about 2 minutes shorter. Production-wise, it's got too much in common with the Eagles' more cloying work, and with the standard AOR pap of the era. Kind of a clump of missed opportunities there... it could have had a little KICK. Maybe it's his bid for a 'Peaceful Easy Feelin' , the kind of song couples want to fuck to.
More on TLR in a sec...D
― Danelectro, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 01:31 (ten years ago) link
Scott, are you gonna do the three bait tracks on "Eagles Live"?
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 01:47 (ten years ago) link
putting garbage into space? 'we were interested in anti-nuclear benefits' ?? In 1976? -- WTH was Glenn smoking?
The last verse is a slam at religion, but it's only informed by the lie of California being paradise. The paradise these guys RULED like GODZ by the way... their climb to the top of the garbage heap and subsequent subhuman hijinks could have happened nowhere else.
As for whether anyone who owned the album even getting this far, get this: A couple I knew in the late 1970s, my friend's brother and sister-in-law, had lived in Cali about the time of HC, and one time after they had moved back to upstate NY they insisted on sitting us down and playing this song, having us HEAR what it had to say. They believed it summed up the experience of living there, in a very profound way. I don't agree, and I didn't even come close to getting it then, but they truly bought it as a grand statement. I suppose they got suckered in by the form - earnest gospelly white-boy soul - as much as the words.
But that doesn't preclude the damn thing from having some power.
Another outsider - Kelly Jones of the Welsh band Stereophonics - does a killer cover of this song. Take it away from Henley and 1976 L.A., and it ... shines. (not on youtube, paste this in yr browser and hit return... <http://allmuz.org/audio/9759962/-250305/Stereophonics-The_Last_Resort>
D
― Danelectro, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:04 (ten years ago) link
myonga, i don't know if i ever got back to you about that seger tribute tape my pal josh put out. it came out pretty good. i keep forgetting to ask him if he has copies. he gsve me one without a cover before he put it out.
http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-4124712-1356107794-1898.jpeg
A1 Ruth Garbus – Main Street A2 Steamrollers – Old Time Rock N Roll A3 Jurt Bansch – Beautiful Losers A4 Uke Of Spaces* – Ship Of Fools A5 Baab Ceegar – The Fire Down Below (The River Up Above) Excerpt A6 Shawn McMillen – Night Moves A7 Cop Pride – Ballad Of The Yellow Beret B1 Duck That – Heavy Music B2 Frozen Corn – Tales Of Lucy Blue B3 Magik Markers – Ramblin Gamblin Man B4 Super Spirit – Feel Like A Number B5 I Love Rust – Turn The Page B6 Bob Fay – Still The Same B7 Dark Master – Sunspot Baby B8 Big Blood – 2+2
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:07 (ten years ago) link
oops, here's the cover: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=4124712
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link
oops, never mind there it is here. weird.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 02:09 (ten years ago) link
Comment posted by YouTube user poindexter van halen on Eagles version of Walk Away: "Don Henley might as well be a drum machine....."
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 05:57 (ten years ago) link
"Please Come Home For Christmas"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/xmascover.jpg
http://youtu.be/XeShHAZk3to
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link
See, if you just have Henley sing someone else's piece(and a great R&B songwriter like Charles Brown's to boot), he suddenly becomes soulful: this may be his best-ever Eagles vocal--take the bitter, desperate way he sings "happy" at the close. The solo (Felder?) is just the capper.
This is the first Tim Schmit recording, iirc.
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link
I didn't need to see these people in bathing suits around a condo pool.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link
I've never understood why the Christmas song is a thing, but this is fine. Steady songcraft shining through after yesterday's dirge. But I would still never listen to it again, there's nothing here I haven't heard hundreds of times before.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
Took me a sec to piece together who Weekend at Bernies guy was in the center until through the power of deduction I realized it was Doned Flanders.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
this may be his best-ever Eagles vocal
OTM. I'm not surprised that the best Eagles vocal is Henley's, but damn surprised that it's this good. It just completely erases the memory of whatever that last poo on Hotel California was.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
That poolside photo...I wish they'd sprinkled the palm trees with oocaine to make it look festive
Thanks for that Seger info, Skot!
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
when I said yesterday that this morning we'd get to my favorite Eagles song I didn't meant this one.
I guess I meant tomorrow's.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
Funky New Year?
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
tomorrow is the collision of funk matter and funk antimatter (Henley, D.)
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
I had no idea that thing existed.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
Well, if you think listening to a New Year's song in October is weird, wait until you see how funky it is.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
funky like the dirt between Frey's toes
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
as for this Xmas nonsense, when Henley sings "There'll be no sorrow and no pain" I imagine him pressing a pillow against a young prostitute's face.
And it got to #18!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
Alfred, I really thought this one was going to be your fave (which seemed a bit weird)!
this has entered the christmas radio canon for sure: every day between Thanksgiving and New Year's, this sucker plays non-stop on classic rock radio (hell, even "easy listening" xmas radio) throughout the land
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
TS: This versus "Wonderful Christmastime"
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5z85dzeAo1qghwxto1_500.gif
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
Dear god I hate wonderful christmastime
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
now imagine Glenn Frey singing "Wonderful Christmastime" over the same arrangement.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
might be mccartney's greatest crime against humanity.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
SimpLY HaaVING a Wonderful Chug All Nite
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
its like throwing a bomb that just keeps exploding for decades.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
Like a landmine, eh?
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
"At any moment, children in Bosnia are in danger of hearing a song recorded 35 years ago..."
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
as dire as "Wonderful Xmastime" is, any recording of "The 12 Days of Xmas" trumps it in relentless, unending awfulness for me.
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
i gotta admit i kinda like the chipmunks version of 12 days.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
http://www.you.tube.com/watch?v=vxz2cRYnZoA
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
Xmas in October Jesus ChristIn reverse
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Um, I don't think that link goes where you think that link was supposed to go.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
I didn't see any Christmas songs, at least.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
LOL, what happened there
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
it's nowhere near the best version of this song ... but maybe Don was emboldened to try it after his recent faux-soul exercise.
there should also be a hall of fame for any major artists who does NOT succumb to pressure to release a Christmas song...
― Danelectro, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
Thought I had one, but I was waaaay off.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51T1GNA129L._SY300_.jpg
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-5-rCoraGc
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:05 (ten years ago) link
dang, I really thought I got that one right as a link. sorry.
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
I didn't need to see these people in bathing suits around a condo pool.lol, that's the best part about this song! agree that it should be sprinkled with oocaine (going to refer to it as oocaine from now on).
I listened to 30 sec of this and had to jump ship. I have an extreme allergic reaction to Christmas songs unless they are being sung by Muppets.
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
Only way that pic could've been better is if they had all been dressed like cowboys down at the saloon, but still gathered around the oocaine-sprinkled Beverly Hills cabana pool.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
I think I just described a Pavement video, so nevermind.
ooooocainewitchy woman
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
oh! i forgot to mention that i had an eagles-related sleep disturbance last night! i woke up in the middle of the night (as i often do) and the only thing i could think about -- like a persistent recurring thought -- was the part at the end of "take it to the limit" where someone goes OOOOHHHH really high. imagine that on a constant loop at 3am. that, amigos, is hell.
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
earworms razed the mindnobody caught 'em
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
i kept hearing HC guitar duel in my head all day yesterday. definitely feeling the eagles nightmares.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
Anyone else think this sounds like a knockoff of "Oh! Darling"?
(of course, the original Charles Brown song predates OD by a decade so it could be argued the opposite is true)
http://youtu.be.com/watch?v=itdNoGtPQ3I
― Shut Down, vol. 3 (Lee626), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
"Please Come Home For Christmas": This is a nice reading. They don't embarrass themselves. This was put out as a stopgap between HC & TLR. In Take It To The Limit, it's reported that the label offered them a massive amount of money to get the latter finished so they could have it in stores for xmas '78, but our heroes said "No" and gave them this single instead.
Jerry Maguire was in theaters during xmas '96:
PLEASE COME HOME FOR CHRISTMASDON: When I was growing up in East Texas, there were basically two radio stations that were interesting. There was KEEL in Shreveport, Louisiana, which I listened to in the daytime. Then there was the legendary WNOE in New Orleans, which I could pick up at night when the station boosted its signal. It broadcasted this wonderful, eclectic mix of music which was like nothing I had ever heard on the pop stations in Texas. WNOE is where I first heard Charles Brown’s original version of “Please Come Home For Christmas.” It always stuck with me. Our version was very much like the original.GLENN: We were in the middle of The Long Run album, and we weren’t going to finish anytime soon. So we cut a Christmas record in Miami. It was a fall day, by the way, and it was hot as hell. Perfect for a Christmas record.
GLENN: We were in the middle of The Long Run album, and we weren’t going to finish anytime soon. So we cut a Christmas record in Miami. It was a fall day, by the way, and it was hot as hell. Perfect for a Christmas record.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
it's interesting how the pace of releases has slowed since the '70s. Taking two or three years between records used to be a huge deal, a sign to record cos. that the artist was getting lost in the studio(didn't Stevie Wonder put out ads apologizing for how long it took him put out "Songs in the Key of Life"?)
― col, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
It was t-shirts:
There was huge anticipation for the new album which was initially scheduled for release around October 1975. It was delayed on short notice when Wonder felt that further remixing was essential. According to Stevie Wonder, the marketing campaign at Motown decided to take advantage of the delay by producing "We're almost finished" t-shirts.[6]
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
Ha, found this about the album we just finished on wiki while looking for something else (which turned out not to be on wiki):
While the band were recording the album, Black Sabbath were also recording the album Technical Ecstasy in an adjacent studio at Criteria Studios in Miami. The band were forced to stop recording on numerous occasions because Black Sabbath were too loud and the sound was coming through the wall.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
http://flaggedforfollowup.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345201fa69e20133ec683d8a970b-500wi
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
xmas song doesn't do much more me.
bring on funky new year! that's gotta be good, right? eagles, funkiness, new years...what could go wrong?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:55 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Sabbath's worst Ozzy album. Now we know why!
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
The coke going around at Criteria that month must have been plentiful. Then again it was the 70's, in Miami at a recording studio, so probably not an incremental difference.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
Buckets of oocaine came complimentary with the purchase of recording services.
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
"Sabbath's worst Ozzy album. Now we know why!"
proximity to Eagles! it all makes sense now.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
The album included "Dirty Women", which remains a live staple, as well as Ward's first lead vocal on the song "It's Alright".[51]
"Guys! I was just watching next door and you won't believe what their drummer was doing!"
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
i like "it's alright" a lot - it's basically a solo lennon tune
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 19:07 (ten years ago) link
I like both Its Alright and Dirty Women. Some of the other stuff is not great. They bounced back for Ozzy's swan song though.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
dudes, total in the wild freakiness: i'm sitting on the front porch and i hear that loud eagle cry and an actual eagle flies toward me from across the street and goes over my house. a little scary. you think don sent it?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
did the eagle hit on your girlfriend/steal your coke y/n
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
did the eagle have a curly little topknot?
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
IT WAS DON.http://youtu.be/S4YZ45xqoTY
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:46 (ten years ago) link
bald eagles adore oocaine iirc
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 22:48 (ten years ago) link
"One of These Nights" is currently playing in the House of Pies I'm sitting in.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
one of these piesone of these crazy round pies
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
crusty round pies, dammit.
"One Of These Pies" kind of a superior title in my opinion.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
You're gonna find out that it's rhubarbWhen you turn on the lights
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
Don: You see, the pie is a metaphor for the sweetness masking the corrupt nature of...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:16 (ten years ago) link
Glenn: It's not rhubarb pie, it's Eagles rhubarb pie.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:18 (ten years ago) link
I'd like to think Glenn would've thought this one was hilarious.
Because, you know what else they call pie?
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 October 2013 23:56 (ten years ago) link
I'd like to make a motion...
Let's do Don Henley solo.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:00 (ten years ago) link
seconded, but wish we could skip "Inside Job"
― col, Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link
Nope. Building the Perfect Beast is solid enough to get us past the doldrums.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link
I vote no against that and will withhold the ILX budget, closing down all boards except for I Love "Football" and Cape of Good Hope in the process.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link
Timbuk 3 is tempting
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
sequestration finally hits ILM
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 00:36 (ten years ago) link
i kinda really don't want to do billy joel...
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
i mean we all know enough of his songs don't we?
i mean you guys still can.
i kinda really don't want to do billy joel...― scott seward, Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― scott seward, Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:02 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
...That's what Christie Brinkley said! <stiff Don Henley rimshot>
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
I'd do a Billy Joel thread, but I don't think my heart would be in the right place. And by that, I mean it would be in the right place.
After all, the MST3K guys were forced to watch those movies. I'd be all "check it out, another sax solo from Rico!" every day.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:10 (ten years ago) link
yeah doing henley AND FREY solo would be a way to eat every part of the pig, delay getting to 'get over it'. there's not a ton to get thru.
― balls, Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link
balls is dying to get to Frey's standards album.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link
it's a losing propositionbut one you can't refuse
― balls, Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:28 (ten years ago) link
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/GFreyHenley85.jpg
Glenn: Folks really don't want to hear our views on Tabloid Television.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:30 (ten years ago) link
pplains I would totally be on board with you doing the Joel thread, for the reasons you described :)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 October 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link
Dude, that TV movie they based on The Late Shift book suuuckked.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
if we do solo stuff here then we have to listen to this:
http://www.recordsale.de/cdpix/r/randy_meisner-same.jpg
and this:
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/32175781/Playin+It+Cool+timothy+b+schmit++playinit+coo.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link
check out frey in this 2013 sundance interview. what a cagey man. you can tell he just wants to rip that suit off and fly free!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJMW7fARPFo
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
in the mid-80s, Schmit suddenly became a 12-year old.
― col, Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:11 (ten years ago) link
A 12-year-old ready to do whatever is necessary to ensure you have a great trip on The Love Boat
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:17 (ten years ago) link
this is the best video ever made:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-rngzNR4Z0
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:18 (ten years ago) link
and so appropriate that the video quality is that of an old homemade vhs tape comp that someone had in the bottom of a box somewhere.
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:20 (ten years ago) link
That's the most disturbing album cover I've ever seen! I think his two sinister henchmen appeared behind his shoulders immediately after the photo was snapped.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:24 (ten years ago) link
wow, that's like a folk memory of the early 80s pulped into one video: "Fast Times at Ridgemont High," "Mickey," "Hot for Teacher," etc.
― col, Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link
plus, there is a monkey.
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:27 (ten years ago) link
First there is a monkeyThen there is no monkeyThen there is
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:37 (ten years ago) link
The '80s were so weird....
Was cheeziness really considered cool back then?
Somehow the pop music of the '60s, '70s, and '90s seems to have aged much better; there are relatively few '80s records that have a timeless feel to them IMO.
― Lee626, Thursday, 10 October 2013 03:52 (ten years ago) link
you do remember what the 90's could look like, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_09f42saa8
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 October 2013 04:01 (ten years ago) link
I was just rescreening Ridgemont but with the commentary on and both Heckerling & Crowe talk about all this inescapable "Eagles music" that Universal made them fill most of the soundtrack with. When the dance band starts in on "LITFL", Crowe says, "There's the Eagles again" and laughs as Heckerling groans.
Speaking of the 80s, look at this great Eurotrashy fan vid for this Henley jam. Terrific Ferrari Rock that deserved a club mix: http://youtu.be/y9ut5nc9X04
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2013 05:04 (ten years ago) link
there are relatively few '80s records that have a timeless feel to them IMO.
wrong thread
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 11:01 (ten years ago) link
well, i guess "The Boys of Summer" approaches timelessness
― Lee626, Thursday, 10 October 2013 11:11 (ten years ago) link
Let future Muzak programmers worry about timelessness.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 11:12 (ten years ago) link
"Funky New Year"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eagleslongrun15.jpg
http://youtu.be/o3Z1w7vBMKQ
― scott seward, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:00 (ten years ago) link
nice to hear don in such pain. now you know how we all feel....
― Lee626, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link
this rips off Bowie's "Fame" a fair bit ("Fame" played by guys on quaaludes). Though it sounds like it was some studio goof they cut in one take and threw on a B-side, with this lot you know they probably spent a month on it.
― col, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:12 (ten years ago) link
Oh no I thought you were all joking about funky new year.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
wait till we get to "Groovin' Groundhog Day"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
Meanwhile, Timothy B. Schmit is watching the band he left after nearly a decade, Poco, finally break big with "Crazy Love" and "Heart of the Night", just after he jumped ship to the Eagles. Wonder if Tim listened to "Funky New Year" whilst holding back his gag reflex, thinking 'hmm, maybe shoulda stuck it out with Poco a bit longer and not have to put up with Henley and Frey'....
― Lee626, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
Well that's when Satan appears and shows him the royalty checks from Greatest Hits Vol. 2.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
Hey, I made you all a little something.
You want it before we get started on their final album of the 70s or after we wrap it up and head to Hell or Eden or wherever.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
i could really really do without henley's "uunh! aah!" in the first chorus. i'm going to be having nightmares about that for a while.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Thursday, 10 October 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
When he says that even his hair hurts, I do take him at his word.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
He has a hairache.
― Lee626, Thursday, 10 October 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
That joke Elvis used to tell in the 70s - "I need a drink of water - my mouth feels like Bob Dylan slept in it last night" - would've been funnier with Don Henley as the punchline.
― pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
It is singularly unpleasant to imagine sleeping with Don Henley in my mouth.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 10 October 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
i guess it's not as bad as i feared?
still it feels like one of those things where you're practicing and someone has some dumb riff that's not really in your wheelhouse but everyone likes it and it's kinda fun to jam around with and for about an hour you talk yourselves into it like "i dunno it's not our usual thing but this is kinda cool we should play it at the next show" and then by the end of practice you realize it's kinda dumb and forget about it
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 October 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Yeah I quite like it, but then I have a massive tolerance for this kind of thing. Also this thread delivering something loose and fun after the past week is like finding manna in the desert. Reminds me more of Physical Graffiti than any actual funk, to tell the truth.
I kinda wish it had another singer though, Henley sounds far too uptight to get properly funky. Also while the drums aren't bad, nobody's going to be sampling them while other funk records still exist.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 10 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
Demonstrably stupid (then and now), a misguided attempt at something well out of their range.
― Danelectro, Thursday, 10 October 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Wow, E-Funk. I can see why this didn't become a seasonal radio staple like the flip. Walsh should have sung it. This does point towards the fun throwaways on TLR, and as noted above, it's refreshing in a way after some of our prior entries.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 October 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
It's amazing how bad Frey-Henley were at throwaways. Maybe because the serious songs sound like discards?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
oktwo things i guess i kinda dig about this song 1) the grunting -- it's better than the singing2) the slow grisly funk pace
seriously every single time i hear don henley singing i get the same gross familiar feeling i will never listen to this song again if i can help it
― Untt (La Lechera), Thursday, 10 October 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
Content 77 Eagles
http://i.imgur.com/abbF5wg.png
― pplains, Thursday, 10 October 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
I'm stunned that I don't hate this. But being the Eags, it's all relative. I probably wouldn't hate eating a whole box of Saltines after rolling a piece of dogshit around in my mouth like it was a piece of hard candy, either.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 October 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
Oh man, if nothing else this thread is inspiring genius levels of metaphor for things that are terrible. TAKE NOTE OF THE METAPHORS, DON. OR GLEN. WHICHEVER ONE OF YOU BUTTHOLES WAS GOING ON ABOUT METAPHORS.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 10 October 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
it's no funk#49 (james gang or killdozer)
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 10 October 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
some great comments on the youtube version of the james gang track
the drum break on funk#49 (o.g. version) is insane
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 10 October 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
Eagle in the wild: Henley's "Not Enough Love in the World" playing in the supermarket, broken up at intervals by increasingly cranky calls for someone to come up to the front end to bag
― col, Thursday, 10 October 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
(Felder sheepishly shuffles out to the registers to bag)
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 10 October 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
CUT TO
EXTERIOR. PARKING LOT. GLENN FREY eggs Felder's car, laughing hysterically.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 October 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
"The Long Run"
https://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/eagles_boat.jpg
http://youtu.be/NTe82e03xVI
― scott seward, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
joe walsh 4ever
― scott seward, Friday, 11 October 2013 12:54 (ten years ago) link
FINALLY
Their best single; for once the smugness is funny. I love the Felder organ, the mocking Walsh slide.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link
plus, you'll notice it doesn't drag like someone pulling a dead horse. it only took them 80% of their career to figure out the whole tempo thing.
― scott seward, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link
this would have had like 2 more minutes of outro if it had been on one of the earlier records
― call all destroyer, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link
I know: I was shocked this clocked in under four minutes. It's so punchy and full of attitude, and even though it's the product of a group of guys who hated eachother's guts by this point, it sounds like a strong ensemble recording: maybe the underlying tension finally woke up them up in the studio. Henley sings it like "yeah, I *am* an asshole," and it's a better vocal for it.
― col, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
I was in my 20s, at least, before I figured out he was saying, "Did you do it for spite" instead of "Did you do it for Spike," like some dude named Spike.
― carl agatha, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
& was this the Eagles throwing down the gauntlet to their critics? "We're gonna outlast 'em all, man, just watch." As it's 35 years later, they're still touring arenas, and we've spent months talking about these clowns, perhaps they were right.
― col, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
even Frey's backup vocals work.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
Love the un-ostentatious, no-nonsense drum intro: dat-thud-thud-WHACK-WHACK. Works perfectly. Also, the nice little syncopations in the rhythm guitar. These guys really were good at the little arrangement details, even if it often added up to a lot of nothing.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 11 October 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
god, even their guitars sound like assholes in this song
― Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 11 October 2013 13:30 (ten years ago) link
These are the Eagles I can listen to without flinching too much. Good beat, Timothy knows his chops obviously, love the organ.
When I worked for the sportstalk radio station, our commercial spot blocks had to be timed to the second, otherwise you'd come back to the the network on the last four-digits of one of spots. Tough to do since ads run 29 seconds or 31 seconds, and if you laid enough of them down that were short, you'd be out five or six seconds. So I sometimes used the intro to this song as a spot fill. just a bump-bum-bumm-bump-BUMP out of nowhere.
Song doesn't stop on a dime or anything, but I do like that one part around 2:45 where they take it back to the outro on a heel. Maybe there was a splice in there or something, but I bet it was fun to play live.
We're finally into the Eagles era that I remember living through. I'll probably get into that when we play the Frey song, but suffice to say, our school's mascot was THE EAGLES and the teens in that small town hung out at a place called THE EAGLE'S NEST.
― pplains, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: We’d had the idea for about six or seven years. The title of the song was apropos, and it seemed to be a good title for the album — let’s see who’ll last. I think it was a lot about longevity, and it was also about me just lovin’ Tyrone Davis’ record “Turning Point.” We had done some slicker production like the Philly sound, but “Long Run” was more like a tribute to Memphis with the slide guitars playing the parts of the horns.
DON: It was a long and difficult album. Everything was catching up to us. Too much pressure, too much worry, too much traveling, too many controlled substances, too much paranoia and infighting. I missed having a normal life. Glenn and I were starting to grow distant. Everything was pulling apart — and we were writing about longevity. [thoughtful pause] Yeah, well, even if we weren’t living it, we were always able to idealize it in a song about the way we’d like to be — the way we’d like to be perceived. That song may have been a message to our critics. It may have been a message from Glenn to me or me to Glenn. It could be taken all kinds of different ways. Could be a message to a girl — a long-departed lover. But, again, it was built on that foundation of Glenn’s rhythm guitar playing [sings part]. Always that foundation. So, here we are some 25 years later — 32 years total — still going strong. The Long Run, indeed.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
so, col, you're right
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
lol @ yt screengrabs
http://i.imgur.com/KR6dqu8.png
― pplains, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
http://youtu.be/UuWpqmTR2uw
http://i.imgur.com/laks1.gif
― pplains, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
the last #1 album of the Seventies, right? which seems appropriate (I remember my dad got this and "Tusk" around the same time and was disappointed w/ both of them)
― col, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
OOOH FA FA FA FIND OUT
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 October 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
Knocked In Through the Out Door out of the No.1 spot. Two of the biggest bands of the 70s and their swan songs fighting to be the last of the decade.
I wonder sometimes if Joe misses his buddy.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xfstm1_eagles-the-long-run_music
― pplains, Friday, 11 October 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
Meanwhile Tusk never hit #1.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
I can't argue with any of the insightful, positive comments any of you have made, but boy I just do not like this song. It grates on me in what I now recognize is a very Eagles kind of way. This makes it even worse: Knocked In Through the Out Door out of the No.1 spot. I mean, I wouldn't go to the mat for In Through the Out Door in an argument about best Led Zeppelin albums but it's a damn sight better than The Long Run (and, spoiler alert, I have a lot of good things to say about tomorrow's song).
― carl agatha, Friday, 11 October 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
i like four songs on inthroughtheoutdoor more than any eagles song.
― scott seward, Friday, 11 October 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Fuuuck, just thought of what an Eagles Mexican Reggae version of Fool in the Rain would sound like.
― pplains, Friday, 11 October 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Just to be sure, I played "In the Evening" a few minutes. Yep, it's better.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
Man that slide playing is slick
Coming into this I thought my own take on the eagles would be a good country rock band that sold out to fame & FM gold
But honestly they were a mediocre country rich band and their stuff like this was better
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
[thoughtful pause]
Obviously a lie. Don's never had one of these in his entire life. Should read [thoughtless pause].
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, October 11, 2013 9:45 AM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Haha, always found this unintentionally hilarious, like "Alright! Nighty-night!" on "Already Gone." Motherfuckers couldn't ad-lib for shit.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 October 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
Good God, didn't the '70s teach them ANYTHING?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWPJx7sooR4
― Danelectro, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
I unabashedly love this song AND I DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS IT
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
Also weirdly the intro reminds me of Huey Lewis and the News 'If This is It', don't ask me why
^ I like that In the Long Run miles better than the Eagles In the Long Run xp
― carl agatha, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
the two 'in the long run's are not in the same league AT ALLthat goes without sayingsomewhere along the waycome a rainy day
― Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), F
OMIGOD I HAVE LONG THOUGH THIS TOO
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
or "Sad Songs (Say So Much)" – you expect the Eagles to go "oooh why don't you tune in and turn them up" after "In THE LOOOONG RUNN"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
shared ancestry
― balls, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
I hope y'all know they had a great blueprint for today's song: http://youtu.be/ZTP322AhAdI (supposedly Seger's cover on Nine Tonight was done to give credit where it was due)
The Eagles' rip-o...homage is nice lightweight single. This is the album where they returned to making fine gas'n'go Friday night singles. It bops along nicely, and for once they're not too much out of their depth. The Houston shout-out is cool; Frey's wife at the time was a deb from Dallas, so that's probably where that came from (City rivalry yo).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
That's interesting. I always thought that was a weird line. Debutantes? Houston? What?
― carl agatha, Friday, 11 October 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
Abstract dig at Rolling Stone critics.
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 October 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
I didn't know that Frey was married at the time: are you sure about that? that seems unlikely: more like whichever chick he was with and would cheat on at a moment's notice. I once was told by someone with firsthand knowledge that on tour in the early 70s, Frey went AWOL for several days, having holed up some place in the south with some chicks and tons of blow: they had to cancel shows cuz no one knew where he was.
I just A/B-ed the Tyrone Davis and Otis Clay cuts, and yeah, they totally ripped off the latter. While I am not on the "glenn is a jock asshole" bandwagon (fuily on board with "Don is a pompous, litigious pseud") perhaps he passive-aggressively but still bitch-assedly gives credit to the davis cut cuz people pointed out his xerox of Clay?
but yeah, this commences the best eagles rekkid. they don't like it, everyone sez they ran out of gas, and so of course it's gonna be the ILM fave. I can't wait to see what you think of two under-played gems, absolute marvels of elegant, creepy hypocrisy.
― veronica moser, Friday, 11 October 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
"Disco Strangler" is a horror but we'll get there soon enough.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
"glenn is a jock asshole"
he's scottish?
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
never forget:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ozeagle/Solo%20Years/RockHard.jpg
― hopping and bopping to the krokodil rot (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
i was coming here to say i had never noticed, until this morning, how good a soul pastiche this was. then i listened to the otis clay song and, yeah, wow. pastiche is no longer the exact word that comes to mind.
but it works. it's a good single.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
do Frey and Henley still drink? I'm curious about the bibulous habits of aging libertines.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
I didn't know that Frey was married at the time: are you sure about that? that seems unlikely: more like whichever chick he was with and would cheat on at a moment's notice.
In To The Limit it's reported that Frey got married in the late '70s to a society girl from Dallas. However, in the text we don't learn her name or much about her other than she was a debutante and that Frey felt he was courting "an American Princess". Later on it's revealed that as part of his "cleaning up" in the '80s he divorced her and quickly wed a dancer from one of his videos, whom I presume he is still with. We don't get her name either, and Frey's wiki page has no "relationships/personal life" section. Instead, we get this:
Frey's first appearance as an actor in a commercial was for Pepsi with Miami Vice star Don Johnson. Another notable commercial campaign was the "Hard Rock in the 70s, Rock Hard in the 80s" gym campaign of 1988, which featured a photograph of a newly physically toned Frey contrasted with the famous Hotel California insert photograph. He even did a picture spread in Rolling Stone modeling ski wear, and a spread in Penthouse modeling sweaters.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
"hard rock" i am so sure
― Untt (La Lechera), Friday, 11 October 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
the same person that I cited above says that they do drink—or at least did when he told me this, in '08. They never had to go to rehab (or not that he or most people in a informed position knows about) and moderated their intake fairly quickly into the '80s. The ad campaign illustrated by Tarfumes was indicative of Frey's lifestyle, not bullshit. Henley was disgusted by it, but who knows what Frey thinks of Henley's association with the Country Bears?
He also told me that Henley is a big, possibly problem, gambler: don't remember what his game is. That's his big secret: inconsistent with the Recording artist's Coalition, Walden Woods Project, but vaguely congruent with doing that which Roman Polanski did. With two underage girls!
― veronica moser, Friday, 11 October 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
they're in their sixties so I imagine wine after the show to go with the handjob is the way they roll
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
Glenn: It's not just wine and a hand job, it's an EAGLES Hotel California label vino by the glass and a hand job.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 11 October 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
DON: the handjob is really a metaphor, though.
GLENN: no it isn't.
DON: well, yeah.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Friday, 11 October 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
do they still have their "Third Encore" crew at Eagles shows? when i heard that story it seemed so diabolical. but lots of bands did similar things.
― scott seward, Friday, 11 October 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
note to Monsieur Seward: there's a cobbled together cut on the "Collected Works" box set called "Long Run Leftovers" that I'll leave it to you to incorporate, as well as "born to boogie" a shitty John Lee hooker jam, and "random Victims" a track of them fucking around in the studio drunk, coked-up, and bored that will be catnip for the haters here. weird that I found these tracks on YT as fast as I did, and indeed that you have evidently had no difficulty posting tunes, as in past years Henley and co. has been very aggressive in getting shit off the computer real fast.
again, somebody suggested that the tunes unique to Eagles Live, "seven bridges road" "All Night long" and "Life's been good" might follow up the Long Run. and I think a selection of solo shit would be good before the dreaded "get over it," which still isn't as bad as Henley's vile "garden of allah."
― veronica moser, Friday, 11 October 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
don henley is a weirdo. what happened to him? maybe some people are just born that way. wonder what his parents were like.
i could do the leftovers stuff after the last cut on the long run, i guess.
― scott seward, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
when do we begin our mass exodus to the new messageboard?
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/forum/index.php?s=90f9fe14a926c4d34987488fa3c91626&
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 October 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/H5VQoqr.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 11 October 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Sighting: "Peaceful Easy Feeling" as background music in a mid-city LA coffee bar this afternoon.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 11 October 2013 23:49 (ten years ago) link
Veronica I listened to random victim on YouTube lord that was one of the grating things I've ever heard
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 12 October 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
i had a terrible headache driving home today and I put on the Eagles complete greatest hits in the background -- it was like taking an ibuprofen, just chilled my brain right out lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 00:47 (ten years ago) link
How's your stomach?
― pplains, Saturday, 12 October 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link
even solo glenn couldn't live without the braindead drum sound...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UxNzlE8ZRk
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 01:16 (ten years ago) link
xpost I skipped the Get Over It etc, so stomach's all good
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
Ha, that almost sounds like what Glenn's demo of The Long Run must've sounded like before Don & Co. got a hold of it.
― pplains, Saturday, 12 October 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
watching battle of the smarm. frey and bob costas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH1quzu9KVU
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
not even with a gun pointed to my head
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link
wow , this song is nuts. i dig it. its about death by global warming. excellent chillwave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSxIX2BXwlE
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:13 (ten years ago) link
and the instrumental prelude is called "silent spring". its really good.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:14 (ten years ago) link
yeah, the costas thing is dire. costas just makes me want to die when i look at him and hear him talk. i have such an allergy to him. but i watched half of it anyway.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
the waves of condescension going back and forth in that interview must have been horrifying to witness
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:19 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:22 (ten years ago) link
they should get married.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:25 (ten years ago) link
but listen to that frey song up above! dytopian nightmare lyrics!
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:26 (ten years ago) link
i gotta search for a charlie rose/henley interview on youtube. that would be the smarm de la smarm.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
mr and mr costas-frey
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:28 (ten years ago) link
Looking at that "I Found Somebody" clip, I'll venture a guess that of all the Eagles, Frey was the most pleased by the prospect of MTV (Acting! Suits! Mugging! Babes!). Also, is it just me, or is there a "Tumbling Dice"-style vocal tug against the beat going on in the verses?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:29 (ten years ago) link
Lord, I ain't never seen weather like thisIt's a hundred and ten in the shadeIt feels like the devil moved here himselfTo see the trouble he made
Everybody's 'bout to go insaneThey're crazy from the heatNobody wants to go outsideThere's danger in the street
It's gonna be a long, hot summerPeople dream of leavin' townGet ready for a long, hot summerFeel the hammer comin' down, comin' down
You see the heat comin' up from the sidewalkYou can feel the temperature riseAll I see is a blazin' sunBurning a hole in the sky
I never thought that it could be like this24 hours a dayIt's too hot to sleep, were in trouble so deepAnd you know there's no running away
It's gonna be a long, hot summerThis place is like a burning hellGet ready for a long, hot summerThere ain't no water in the well
It's a long, hot summerA lot of sweat and miseryIt's a long, hot summerIt's killin' you and killin' me
So you scream and shout, but there's no way outYou just live with a lock on your doorThere's a fire in the sky and the earth is so dryLike a cracking ground, you can't take anymore
It's three o clock in the morning(Don't do it)You wait for the sirens to moan(Don't do it)You stare at the trigger, but somehow you figureYou don't feel like dying alone(Don't do it)
The mean streets are getting meanerEverybody's got a gunThis ain't no city, it's a nightmare darlin'Were all dying in the sun
It's gonna be a long, hot summerPeople dream of leavin' townGet ready for a long, hot summerFeel the hammer comin' down
It's a long, hot summerNever seen a drop of rainIt's a long, hot summerNothing's gonna kill the pain
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link
anyone who can write the lyric "We're all dying in the sun" in their miami chillwave epic can't be all bad.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link
From the Bob Costas interview:
Lynn Turman 2 weeks ago
For all of you who are convinced Glenn Frey is some monster who always had to get his way & whose sole purpose was to destroy the lives of Bearnie Leadon, Randy Meisner, and Don Felder? Watch this.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 04:42 (ten years ago) link
In the wild: our next selection on a jukebox in a noisy diner.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 October 2013 05:28 (ten years ago) link
Costas: [smug long boring question] *does something smug with his stupid face* *YOU SECRETLY ENVY MY LUSTROUS HAIR AND KNOWLEDGE OF STATISTICS, FREY*Frey: [smug long boring answer] *does something smug with his stupid face* *I COULD CRUSH YOUR SKULL BETWEEN MY TEETH WITH MY MANLY JAW, COSTAS*
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 05:43 (ten years ago) link
The Long Run is too cheesy for me. Would be fine if it was an actual soul record, but in this arrangement it sounds more like something the teachers' band would play as a finale at the school talent contest.
The various bridges are good though and the slide guitar works well. But it wouldn't've worked if it had been all bridge, and the rest is too jaunty to be interesting, so into the dud pile it goes.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 October 2013 11:00 (ten years ago) link
"I Can't Tell You Why"
http://www.timothybschmitonline.com/images/lrsunning.jpg
http://youtu.be/H0oaISkCPQ0
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link
luv this song. i don't think i even knew it was eagles for years. always loved hearing it on the rsdio. you get to hear this on AM radio as well as FM radio. love the guitar. the drums sound like a drum machine so i like them. this should definitely go in the chillout lite rock hall of fame. sounds like something someone made at home back then not like a million dollar production.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 12:21 (ten years ago) link
basically love the fact that if you didn't know it was eagles you'd never guess it was them in a million years.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 12:22 (ten years ago) link
plus, shout-out to glenn frey for the guitar solo and the fender rhodes playing!
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
http://www.redtelephone66.com/albumart/glad.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 12:33 (ten years ago) link
Used beautifully in Shoot the Moon, and, yeah, I didn't know it was an Eagles tune for years.
When I saw'em live Frey reprised his Fender ticklin.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
i'm in the club that didn't know it was the Eagles until maybe 1988 or so---thought it was Leo Sayer or Eddie Rabbit or someone. It really does seem to be by Tim Schmit and a group of session guys, like "Sorcerer" & Bernie.
Frey's "The One You Love" seems to be in part a rewrite of it, with worse vocals.
in the doc, there's a Frey noblesse oblige moment. He recalls playing the riff on his Fender, then looking at Schmit and saying "There's your hit!"
― col, Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link
DON: Timothy came in with the title and other bits and pieces. Glenn and I just wanted to surround it with everything we could. Glenn came up with that wonderful counterpart, very much a soul-record type thing, “Try to keep your head, little girl.” Glenn also composed and played that great guitar solo.
GLENN: Timothy joined the band and the real challenge, as Don and I saw it, was to get a piece of material for him that wasn’t country. So we got him over to LaFontaine, and the three of us got down to work. I said, “You could sing like Smokey Robinson. Let’s not do a Richie Furay, Poco-sounding song. Let’s do an R&B song.” He said, “Sure, love to try!” Some of those crazy moments happen when you just go over to the piano and jam. There I was, brave as a Budweiser, going right to the piano and saying, “Well, how ’bout something like this?” That’s another one of my absolute favorite Eagles songs. It’s got the mood. It’s got the “Ooh baby, baby” vocal. But, again, counterpoint — with Don and I singing against he melody and the understated, brilliant guitar stylings of yours truly [laughs]. It’s another song that people love in our live show. Since it is a ballad, we are not playing too loud and can hear the audience. Timothy starts, and there are thousands of people singing, “Look at us, baby…”
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
I, too, love this song. Other songs I've liked so far (save JOURNEY OF THE SORCERER, which is weirdly wonderful in its own right) I've liked in the context of this thread but this one stands up all on its own. It's no secret I'm a big fan of AM Gold/Yacht Rock, so I'm sure that colors my view of this one. Glenn's bloviation makes me a little ill but I love the guitar and backing vocals on this as much as I love Timothy B. Schmidt's white boy falsetto.
I was reading about TBS and he's a studio backing vocals champ. He sang on Toto's Africa and Just Remember I Love You by Firefall, which is another song I lovelovelove.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
I didn't know it was the Eagles either, until around 2000 or so. In that way, it reminds me of "Train In Vain," as both songs were all over WLS-AM at the same time, but I didn't know who the bands were until years later.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
"Wait, did I say 'your' hit? I meant mine! It's mine! I own it! And all the subsidiary rights!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, October 11, 2013 2:10 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Song proves this point pretty well.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
brave as a Budweiser
hero
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
Kinda digging this cover (and I think that's Timothy in the video...?)http://youtu.be/JmtuL386nnY
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
But yeah, easily the best thing the Eagles ever did.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
DON: We felt bad for Tim. He didn't really write songs, didn't get girls, was not what I consider a studly looking man. We wanted to give'em a piece of the action.
GLENN: By this point we could give lightweights our shit and it'll smell like gold.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
Sounds like Timmy tried to go back to that well at least one other time:http://youtu.be/GGZx5ZHixkI
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
This song is pretty much unimpeachable to me. This and one of these nights are the best tracks they ever did. Guitar solo redeems the existence of Frey. It's like the surface tension if water.
Now time to listen to toto iv and try to hear TBS.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 12 October 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Heard this immediately followed by Henley's New York Minute whilst out yesterday
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
yeah this song is totally alright with meit has that "play misty for me" smooth late nite radio feel
― Untt (La Lechera), Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:02 (ten years ago) link
It's just hit me that, if the catalogue can be got into any kind of sensible order, the next track-by-track should be Elvis.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
i'm pretty sure elvis recorded about 27,856 songs.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
god, i just got the shivers thinking about doing an elvis costello listening thread. that would kinda be hell for me.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
every once in a while out of nowhere in my head i'll hear "VerONicaaaaaaa..." and i want to go track that guy down and give him a talking to.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:04 (ten years ago) link
Love this. His voice reminds me of Smokie or something reaaaaaal easy like that. That first line hooks me completely
and fuuuuuuuck Frey & Henley for making TBS' moment in the sun all about them. gag
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
"here'e your hit, bitch, now go clean the pool."
TBS in interviews is totally a company man. you'd think he had started the band with those guys.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
he's mr get along with everyone /hey it's just music/ anyone want to come over my wife made spaghetti
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
DON: Tim, we're out of spaghetti. You mind if we use your hair?
TIM: Naw, man. It's cool!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
Every time we're out of spag-het-tiI give my hair to He-ne-leyAnd I can't tell you why
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
This is a great song, and second only to "Journey of the Sorceror" as something I'd never guess was the Eagles. Love the production too - listen to the intro riff which repeats four times, twice with a Fender Rhodes before changing to an electric guitar, with a Hammond organ embellishment that comes in and then fades into a synth.
Everything in this song works. For once, the solos don't sound like just noodling (those string bends are great), even Henley'sextra snare hits at 2:59. Fine lyrics too, a mature love song. Schmit did write some songs previously, including one of Poco's biggest hits "Keep On Tryin'", but this is better.
― Lee626, Saturday, 12 October 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
Wow, this is truly excellent. Very good song, well-developed through the various changes; nice understated arrangement, well played Frey; good playing throughout, the odd leaden Henley drop quite forgiveable in context; and the smoothest of production, nice doubling in places to give more texture without making the track too busy. Great vocal of course. I can imagine being in a vaguely noirish lounge while this plays, maybe half-a-dozen lone guys and a sympathetic broad serving drinks; would be a good night.
No idea that this was coming but that's a very promising start to the album (though we've heard that before).
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 October 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
Feelin the keyboard on this one
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 17:51 (ten years ago) link
A stone classic. Like many here, I didn't know this was the Eagles for the longest time. I used to think it was some one-hit Female artist like, I dunno, Karla Bonoff or somebody. But no, it's Tim B's big moment. It's kind of amusing that in the interviews Frey's all like "we kept trying to find a good song for Randy" and then they actively strike gold w/Tim right out the gate. In the context of this album it feels like an odd choice for track two. It would fit better at the end of side 1 or (better still) closing the album. But we got some Henley/Frey shitwhiches on that real estate.
TBS Poco jam: http://youtu.be/iF1j8Y0zw6w
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 October 2013 18:48 (ten years ago) link
Did not know this before but feel like a better person knowing it now!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Saturday, 12 October 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
TBS wrote Keep On Tryin *and* sang on Africa?
awesome
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
Joe Walsh playing the synths on this one.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
Schmitt's journeyman/company man qualities are exactly why I don't like "I Can't Tell You Why" as much as most of you. He sounds pallid and blank.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Schmit toured with Jimmy Buffett, in 1983, 1984, and 1985 as a member of the Coral Reefer Band, and coined the term "Parrotheads" to describe Buffett's fans.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
xpost you sound, etc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
Schmitt sings on half of Gene Clark's No Other!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
otm. i'd like to hear randy sing this one.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
jesus you guys we were so close to consensus! that might be as close as we ever come...
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
as close to positive consensus
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
Well, yeah
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
i thought "one of these nights" was the positive consensus pick!
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
yeah that one too. though there were still probably a couple of nay votes.
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, fuck that song. Never liked it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
I didn't ride for OoTN either.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:04 (ten years ago) link
buncha contrarians
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
For me, it just has so many elements of what I hate about the Eagles: flumpfy sound, stiff drumming, forced/awkward ad-libs ("we're gonna find out, pretty mama").
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:49 (ten years ago) link
(I guess "I Can't Tell You Why" has flumpfy sound too, but in that context, it works. Flumpf does not work when you're trying to rock out.)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 12 October 2013 21:50 (ten years ago) link
wait, i can't remember anyone saying they HATED "hotel california" the song. or maybe i'm forgetting. everyone likes the guitars on it anyway.
tarfumes, got a sealed copy of this the other day. debating whether i should put it online or keep it. i've never actually heard it!
http://www.discogs.com/Joe-McPhee-Tenor/release/1796127
― scott seward, Saturday, 12 October 2013 23:23 (ten years ago) link
Do you know Roatario Records slot? My friend runs it he's put out some records by him in recent years
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 October 2013 04:13 (ten years ago) link
Had no idea "Tell Me What You Dream" was T.B. Schmit. Tim gets himself everywhere!
― Lee626, Sunday, 13 October 2013 09:44 (ten years ago) link
"In The City"
http://www.weiunderpar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/the-warriors.jpg
http://youtu.be/2SrXi1SsFgg
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 October 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfLV_hSj_uE
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 October 2013 12:03 (ten years ago) link
Walsh's vocal annoys me; he strains.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 October 2013 12:09 (ten years ago) link
Love it
Is this different than the version in the Warriors that is billed as a solo Walsh track? Sounds the same
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
different recording but the arrangement is the same, walsh sounds more beat down in the original to me and the little production details tend to be more buried
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:47 (ten years ago) link
I don't like this. It reaches a point where you think it must change or stop, but it just goes on and on; like a bowling ball on an infinite alley.
But Joe sounds a lot like Neil Young I reckon. Roughen up the guitars, make the solo muddier but more epic, have it lurch in tempo at least once, and it could be a Neil song I don't like instead.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
lol apparently henley and frey liked the original and decided 'that should be an eagles record' so they got walsh to rerecord it w/ them w/o really changing anything. it's not only on the long run but also apparently on hell freezes over. despite this nobody thinks of this as an 'eagles' song. warriors > eagles.
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
i like this bcz joe
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
o wow the desmond child track on the soundtrack is some bad bruce. always figured the springsteenisms in bon jovi came from growing up in jersey but maybe there was an additional vector. anyhow pplains before you pipe up about how you don't think 'in the city' really works at the end of the warriors (strong disagreement here obv) give this thing a listen and imagine michael beck on that beach while this plays: http://youtu.be/G9_kFDYW9EE
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
haha, ok, compared to that, they could've played space age whiz kids at the end of the warriors and it wouldn't be worse than that.
― pplains, Sunday, 13 October 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
i'm gonna admit that i am not 100% sure i knew that this was the eagles before today
― Untt (La Lechera), Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:00 (ten years ago) link
i did know that i didn't like it
i think 90% of me liking it is the Warriors association, the other 10% is just because Frey/Henley didn't write it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
Strongest opening to an Eagles album yet. Pretty sure it's downhill from here....
Like "Desperado", this is a well-known non-single/non-hit
― Lee626, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
I just watched that final scene of the Warriors again. COME ON.
― pplains, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
Has nothing to do with the rest of this thread, but a buddy of mine instagrammed a pic of him and Michael Beck last week. Looks pretty much exactly the same.
― pplains, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
apparently reagan loved the warriors and called up michael beck after screening it at camp david to tell him so
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
yet in his diary he complained how 9 to 5 had disappointed him. Instead of watching the girls get drunk we get a scene in which they get high on pot.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
not a fan of star trek III iirc
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
"In The City": Like This. Easily the better of his two initial Eagles spotlights (but not as good as the brand new Eagles-esque solo track he'd have in a movie the next year and share on Live). Some old problems arise as the coda should have been faded earlier.
Crowe w/the one Eagle who didn't get a spot on the FTARH soundtrack:
IN THE CITYGLENN: Of all the songs we were considering for the album, I always loved this one of Joe’s. An earlier solo version had been in the movie The Warriors, but it wasn’t that widely known. I always liked the song and thought it could have been an Eagles record, and so we decided to make it one.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 13 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
in the wild: i saw tarfumes the escape goat today and he kept reminding me in public that i listen to the eagles every day. also, he has never seen the warriors. he's really gotta get on that.
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
wtf tarfumes
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:55 (ten years ago) link
Were ... people listening?
A reminder that ILM is not as real life: I was trying to explain this whole Eagles project to a friend the other night: what I get out of it, how interesting it was to listen to the details, to work out exactly why they aren't that great, etc. The reminiscence I got in return was about how an ex-girlfriend's dad had really loved the Eagles, and he remembered going to her house and hearing them there, and he didn't know that much of their stuff but there was one song he did like ... Hello California, that one.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
hello californiais it me you're looking for
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
he's been listening to the eagles every day too iirc?! also over the edge is better for teens wilding out to 70s rock music imo
― Untt (La Lechera), Sunday, 13 October 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
DON: We've heard about this website that's gone through the trouble of listenin' to every one of our tunes.
GLENN: On one level, we're proud people are talking about our work. On the other hand, how many of these people have smoked the finest cheeba, flown in a Lear, and have gotten the pussy we have?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 October 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
done, done, and done
― balls, Sunday, 13 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CFbgRSAxoY0/UAoG3bzsugI/AAAAAAAAAz8/y_EM1KFBWdc/s1600/pennywise_the_clown.jpg
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 October 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link
"Were ... people listening?"
sorta. its just too hard to explain to people. luckily we were surrounded by people who are quite fond of the both of us and would have probably looked the other way just this once. it was nice to see him though. it always is.
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 October 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
over the edge is my favorite movie when all is said and done. but the warriors is definitely up there too.
― scott seward, Sunday, 13 October 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
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I KNOW, I KNOW, I'M ON IT.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
Kinda like this song, maybe because I can only think of it as a Joe Walsh joint, and I don't actively hate anything Joe Walsh has done. I don't love anything he's done either (give or take a James Gang track or two; and the fact that he gave Pete Townshend the Gretsch/Fender Bandmaster rig Pete used on everything from Who's Next on). But I always dug the groove on this, and I'm wondering if it's actually Joe Vitale, and not Don behind the kit.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
I'll bet Vitale is playing on the soundtrack version - whoever's playing sounds more like a studio groove dude than Henley's dull thudding on the Eagles version.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 14 October 2013 09:21 (ten years ago) link
"The Disco Strangler"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesVB10.jpg
http://youtu.be/wuGdtVELyq4
― scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link
"strangled" is how Henley's vocal sounds. I understand he's trying something new but – ugh ugh ugh
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 12:35 (ten years ago) link
What is it that he's trying? This one is so bad, I can't believe they thought it worth putting any of it together. Even the riff is rubbish.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 14 October 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
wtf is this? Wasn't "Long Run" allegedly the product of two perfectionist years ensconced in the studio? And yet track four sounds like a shitty studio demo with a wonky guide vocal.
as with their barely-remade "In the City" it's a sign the band had nothing in the tank, even by their standards.
I recall that a friend & I cracked up around 1983 (a year 'disco' was the height of uncool, at least in Virginia) when we were looking through record sleeves and saw this one. "Oooh-- the Disco Strangler!" Image of a killer wearing the Travolta white polyester suit.
― col, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:07 (ten years ago) link
that their vaunted quality control is discarded so that they try something completely misbegotten and gacked-up-to-the-goddamn-gills, with this song and two on the side 2, is why I like this record more than the preceding. It's nasty, brutish and short. they look at disco like they look at women and other challenges to their imperial primacy, so they make this mutant version. Never really tried to parse what Don's talking about here, but that they were so coked up that they thought this should make it on the record is endearing.
― veronica moser, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:11 (ten years ago) link
It's a tragedy that SCTV couldn't get the clearance for this in the Cruisin' Gourmet sketch.
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Monday, 14 October 2013 13:12 (ten years ago) link
What balls for Henley to sing this one all the while paying no mind to the actual beat and rhythm of the song. It's like he's strangling disco.
But say what you will, at least this one's over and out. Meisner would've never wrote something like this, but if he had, it would've gone on at least to the 5:49 mark.
― pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
Does a band that recorded "One Of These Nights" have a right to strangle disco in the first place?
― Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sure Glenn Frey's choked himself on more than one occasion.
― pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
Sounds like one of Henley's more creative beats. Or, more accurately, this is Henley's one creative beat.
But yeah, total throwaway b-side material. Took them three years to come up with 42 minutes of music, and they still had to hijack a Joe joint and put this afterthought on.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
That picture makes me feel like I might have Stockholm syndrome.
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
It would explain Joe's expression.
― pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
This is the day I have been waiting for since this thread started. I have thoughts about this song.
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
would have been so much cooler if they had blasted disco by making an awesome disco track. but that just wouldn't have been the way of the Eagle.
― scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
To show their hatred of disco, they record a terrible song. Progress!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
Frey and Henley going clean-shaven as a harbinger of the '80s; must've been shocking for fans.
― col, Monday, 14 October 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
Disco Strangler is bizarre, poorly formed and lol. I enjoy it.
Also I will always hear it now as the accompaniment to Dave Thomas fisting a pullet.
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
what an odd song
if i was prone to DaveQ/xhuxk flights of rock crit fancy I might speculate it's the Eagles trying to be Gang of Four but who are we kidding they had no idea who that was and it's just their own inherent clunkiness trying to be funky
but yeah Henley's vocal seems to have barged into the room from another song altogether...their misogyny now not even hidden behind faux mellow trips and just ugly
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
Wow, this song. I was looking forward to it, hoping we'd get more JOURNEY OF THE SORCERER style wtf-ery. Instead it's a whole new kind of wtf-ery without any of the endearing weirdness of JotS. Bleh. I bet Don's throat hurt after he was done choking out this song. I haven't even looked at the lyrics yet.
Shakey, I am v. interested in your thoughts.
― carl agatha, Monday, 14 October 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
From the lyrics to the arrangement to the performance this song is a masterpiece of mixed emotions and conflicted intentions. It is not hard to imagine how the Eagles would be both threatened and dismissive of disco's cultural ascendancy at this point, and with this song they attempt to both cynically cash in on what they surely regarded as a fad, as well as incriminate it as some sort of deadly musical STD (the "melody without a cure"). The song is contemptuous of its audience, painting them as slatternly whores who don't know what's good for them, and while there are no direct intimations of the Eagles/narrator as spurned lover or wronged party, the condescending paternalism is blatant and dismissive ("fine, go get yourself killed by some polyester-coated greaser!").
Structurally, the song is a half-formed abortion of musical ideas. There are nods to the standard 4/4 disco throb in the kick/hi-hat pattern, but the snare hits are placed as if to deliberately and maliciously undermine the development of any actual disco groove. As such Henley ends up playing it more as a two-step, as if to say "oh, sure I know what disco IS, but it's so stupid I'm not gonna play it like it should be, I'm gonna do it like THIS instead" - the problem being that Henley doesn't have the chops to actually develop some interesting and technically showy divergence from the disco rhythm, instead he just throws in some off-beat snares every other bar, which sort of begs the question as to whether or not Henley actually COULD play a disco rhythm if he tried. Similarly, the two-note guitar riff is undeveloped and not particularly worthy as a hook, the Eagles presumably assuming that catchy riffs or chord shadings or anything melodically interesting would be required of something as pointless as a disco song. Henley's vocal, while committed to the anguished, ass-clenchingly strained delivery which he has so assiduously developed by this point in his career, wafts arhythmically above the rest of the arrangement, completely oblivious to the backing track.
Each element of the song perfectly encapsulates the band's position - we hate disco, but we will play it because it's popular, except not very well, because it's just some fucking disco garbage. Making it one of my favorite entries in the S/D: Songs that are about disco/have disco in the title but bear little to no resemblance to actual disco category. It also perfectly encapsulates everything I hate about the Eagles and why they were such a shitty band - the empty "professionalism", the condescending sexism, the failed pretensions, the drug-addled commercialism, the contemptuous, almost hateful vibe - it's all here in this song.
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
It also perfectly encapsulates everything I hate about the Eagles and why they were such a shitty band - the empty "professionalism", the condescending sexism, the failed pretensions, the drug-addled commercialism, the contemptuous, almost hateful vibe - it's all here in this song.
otmthey suuuuuuuuuuuuckbut mostly it's don henley's faultthe music itself doesn't scream CONDESCENSION, he does
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
This song is horrid. I was playing this record this morning and a minute or so into this song I had to go and turn it off because it was making me nauseous.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
the way Henley belches out that last "-angleHHHuhhuhhhr" may be the most hateful moment in the whole Eagles catalog, which is really an achievement.
sociopolitical statement btw: "Rome is burning, but that's alright"
― col, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
shakey really did have some thoughts on this.
i feel like the length of the song gives away their ambivalence. they thought it was a cute idea and then halfway through they just got tired of it and stopped.
― scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
and still put it on the album...
― scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 17:43 (ten years ago) link
Shakey OTM.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
so man this is really gonna go down....Eagles never made a completely satisfying, solid album. crazy.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
man I feel really bad in my younger days ever equating these guys with Fleetwood Mac. wow. so remotely not on the same planet.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
Crazy that from this record, you've got songs like I Can't Tell You Why and In the City -- not to even mention the High Plains Drifter song that's coming up -- and THIS one, THIS one that tries to mete out a funky little beat has been sampled by exactly NO ONE.
― pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
yeah the weird takeaway i'm getting from this whole experience has been that even when i really hated the eagles it turns out i was still overrating them.
― balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
For me, there is nothing more comforting in life than having my hate for something completely justified.
― pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
i do think henley is 80% of what's wrong w/ this track though, if it had been a minute and a half curio and maybe been more new wave instead of disco it might have been a fun bit of filler.
― balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:16 (ten years ago) link
oh one thing I forgot to mention in my previous post - often I have fantasized that there was some sort of "strangling dance" move meant to accompany this song, but the song sabotages its funk underpinnings so thoroughly that dancing to this song is not actually possible.
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
not to even mention the High Plains Drifter song that's coming up
Really curious as to what the Eags reaction was when they heard/heard about the Beasties sample.
Wait, I don't care, fuck the Eagles.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
― balls, Monday, October 14, 2013 2:09 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i feel a version of this--like, for all the talk of professionalism there are so many garbage performances across these records that some material that had potential gets totally submarined.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
― pplains, Monday, October 14, 2013 6:12 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
hahaha it is like you held up a mirror to my soul.
― carl agatha, Monday, 14 October 2013 18:38 (ten years ago) link
how many songs do we have to go after The Long Run though. that thought kinda chills me to the bone.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
do you feel your hair growing into a mushroom of tight poodly curls?
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
Let me just say I really love the three obvious throwaways on this album. Say what you will, but at least they're not boring as what they've dished out previously, and these tracks are genuinely weird in that way that makes you wonder how the biggest band in the world landed on this stuff. And besides, where else can you hear Don Henley sing the following through a clinched sphincter: "Look at me, baby, look at me. I'm beautiful, I'm beautiful, I'm somebody."?
Btw Shakey, did you ever make good on this?
"Disco Strangler" is my new favorite cover request to yell at bands. Especially alt-country bands.― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, May 3, 2005 12:08 PM (8 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
yeah but that's satire oh right
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
haha y'know I haven't seen any alt-country bands lately, will report back when I have
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
i assumed that by virtue of growing up within proximity of a radio, and also by virtue of growing up within proximity of an awful lot of '70s and '80s rock, i would have known this song. the title was familiar to me; i figured i heard it a t least a few times back in the day and had forgotten about it. but now i'm pretty sure i've never actually heard this song before.
four things about it:
1. it's totally not a bad song. it isn't great by any stretch either, but there's something appealing about the raggedness of the guitars, and the simple chorus hook works. and as a huge fan of rolling stones disco, i'll happily check out anything that sounds like sub-rolling stones disco.
2. the rolling stones IS the school of disco this is entirely inspired by and derived from, yes?
3. the random hard-left and hard-right panning of the hi-hat is giving me headaches.
4. this is about the 27th song that's come up on this thread that i thought could be made into a warren zevon song with just a little editing here or there. i don't think you'd have to edit this one at all though. just switch vocalists, add waddy wachtel's name to the credits (but don't actually change the part), and done.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
the Stones have understood R&B since 1962.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
the Eagles have understood R&B since never
well that's what i mean by the "sub" in "sub-rolling stones disco." but that said, there's been at least a few songs on this thread that suggest the eagles, while not exactly the stones, do know a thing or two about r&b.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
Glenn Frey ordered sheet music for Philly Soul songs so he could learn them!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:30 (ten years ago) link
They like R&B. They don't get R&B.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:31 (ten years ago) link
yeah what's mildly disappointing about this is that the eagles have been fairly engaged w/ r&b and even disco to this point (ahead of their peers even w/ 'one of these nights'), they weren't tom petty.
― balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
They gambled: they thought they could write songs that compensated for their shitty rhythm section.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
http://youtu.be/o5UkuNWSvas
― pplains, Monday, 14 October 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
i think this thread proves beyond a doubt that we should just gather all the copies of the individual eagles albums and burn them, bonfire style
there's no reason for anything of the eagles to exist except their greatest hits
and even *that* is dangerous, because it lets people think there's undiscovered gems out there and we can tell the world categorically NO SIR, THERE ARE NOT
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
that's the thing right there. even with the non-hits that weren't terrible, i could name a dozen other bands that did it better. i mean there are plenty of non-hit zz top, allman bros, lynyrd skynyrd, poco, etc, etc, etc songs that are just so much better quality-wise. and funkier. and played better and just more fun to listen to. there are pure prairie league songs that are better than the marginally ok eagles non-hits!
― scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
and I think of my experience digging into the Rolling Stones catalog and finding all kinds of songs that could have formed their own non-hits compilation, like how the songs you hear on the radio are just the tip of the iceberg (at least for me personally)
and the eagles is like, how the fuck did they manage to have so many hits when they couldn't a) write a whole album that you could listen to start to finish and b) their non-hit material is SO bland/bad or downright offensive
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
it's like they are scientists who don't keep notes and just keep fucking up the same experiments over and over until poof it works and then they can't remember how they did it becuase they weren't paying attention so they start from scratch
every...single...time
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
i just think they got a lot of help! in the studio and from other musicians/songwriters. they would have moved back home in the early 70's if they hadn't hooked up with the dudes they hooked up with.
― scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
yeah definitely
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
well but that's it: the only outside help they got was J.D. Souther, one of their own. They didn't work with song doctors! They wrote and played their own shit. Their career makes a case for song doctors -- or, in Henley's case, Kooch and Mike Campbell.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
SOMEONE PLEASE STOP THE EAGLES FROM WRITING THEIR OWN SONGS
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 October 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
well but that's it: the only outside help they got was J.D. Souther
and Jackson Browne and Jack Tempchin
― Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:20 (ten years ago) link
"Disco Strangler" is my new favorite cover request to yell at bands. Especially alt-country bands.
I could probably play the drums on this, and I'm not even a drummer. I could also do the vocals - best way would be to insert earplugs so I couldn't hear what the rest of the band was playing
― Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Yeah -- Jack Tempchin became Frey's Kootch and Campbell (oof).
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
― Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
if you include outside songwriters and other members of the band other than frey and henley - for instance their hired gun guitarist coming up with a complete version of their most famous song - they got LOTS of help.
― scott seward, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
And this was still the best they could do.
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
plus seger yet to come
― balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 21:57 (ten years ago) link
man henley being a drummer is still such a weird mystery to me. dude clearly wouldn't have been the drummer unless he wanted to be the drummer and yet there is nothing to indicate this is a guy who cared about drumming, so so many tracks that might be salvageable if the drumming was even just adequate.
― balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
he's not a keyboardist, guitarist, singer, human being.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
...registered sex offender
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
well, yeah
― Hip Hop Hamlet (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:29 (ten years ago) link
Would OTM this except... EXCEPT for a certain cosmic concerto for banjo and string orchestra...
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Monday, 14 October 2013 22:47 (ten years ago) link
yeah, that's my lone great discovery from this 3000+ post thread
― Lee626, Monday, 14 October 2013 22:57 (ten years ago) link
"Chug All Night" has been good for running jokes and screen names.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 14 October 2013 23:03 (ten years ago) link
guys
Check out To the Limit: The Untold Story of the Eagles if you want a salacious read. It's on Google Books. Apparently Henley WAS a compulsive gambler in the eighties.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
kick 'em when they're up!
are the Henley/Frey solo records the same formula the Eagles? A couple singles, then just half-assed dreck? I recall "Building the Perfect Beast" had a couple of legitimately okay non-single tracks on it, but the memory may cheat.
― col, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Well, they're right on top of the death of disco here ... "we're just trying to reflect our TIMES, maaaaan"
― Danelectro, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
From day one, starting with the pre-release single of the title track, the Dallas FM stations played all of the album EXCEPT this track...
― Danelectro, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
Henley's Internet poker handle, ca. 2005: "DiscoStranglrr2"
― col, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
building the perfect beast made rolling stone's best albums of the 80s (just behind marshall crenshaw's debut, just ahead of, brace yrself, sign o the times), when i was a kid i chalked it up to lol rolling stone but knowing now that jann wenner apparently hated the eagles i have no idea, maybe it is decent
― balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:27 (ten years ago) link
are the Henley/Frey solo records the same formula the Eagles? A couple singles, then just half-assed dreck?
It depends! I don't own I Can't Stand Still and dislike "Dirty Laundry." Building the Perfect Beast stays true to its title: every song offers an electrohook or line to die for. "All She Wants to Do is Dance" is the only guilty pleasure in my life: in typical Henley fashion he mocks the chick for being insensitive enough not to care about El Salvador and the Contras yet the groove is so damn unstoppable that I forgive him anyway.
I cannot stand The End of the Innocence, which really is bitch bitch bitch, including "The Last Worthless Evening," about a bitch.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 October 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
i could imagine liking 'dirty laundry' if it was an instrumental, that initial murky few seconds before the high synth hook comes in reminds me of the beginning of 'juke box hero' in a weird way.
― balls, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:35 (ten years ago) link
Wait I thought All She Wants... was about Vietnamese hookers?!
― Untt (La Lechera), Monday, 14 October 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
End of the Innocence is murderous. Robbie Robertson, if he heard it, would be like, "man, pompous much?" I like "Dirty Laundry" just for that keyboard hook---it drowns out the song's Henleyness.
― col, Monday, 14 October 2013 23:37 (ten years ago) link
Hey, y'all. Heard you had a bad day on the Eagles thread. Sorry 'bout that. Hope this makes up for it.
http://vimeo.com/76914676
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link
I accidentally clicked flag post instead of the the link when I tried to view that the first time
me = otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
i love the sound of dirty laundry. always will. its pretty dope. just sample the shit out of that opening riff and get rid of henley. is my advice. but i can't deny how cool it sounds to me. probably the idea of whoever played keyboards on it.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 02:34 (ten years ago) link
Itt Joe Walsh teaches me that the answer to flares is high-waters.
― Zachary Taylor, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link
scott otm re: "Dirty Laundry." I didn't associate it with the Eagles for years, even knowing that it was Henley, and knowing Henley was in the Eagles. Also, best production on an Eagles-associated record up to that point.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
"King Of Hollywood"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesLRTB03.jpg
http://youtu.be/5xdnmEqIAHU
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
don't think this song is long enough.....................................................
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
― balls, Monday, October 14, 2013 7:27 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
It got four (four-and-a-half?) stars in 1984, which indeed was something for an Eagle in Rolling Stone. It made a lot of Eagles-haters, myself included, sit up and take notice. I never heard the whole record, but the singles are all pretty ace. "The Boys Of Summer" sounds dated as shit, but I still love it. It was like he crammed every positive, sentimental, non-douchey quality he'd ever expressed in the Eagles -- and there were a small handful at most -- into one song.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
Wow that picture. Eagles hairvolution is something to behold.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
i like both guitar solos in dirty laundry too. joe walsh and then steve lukather. i do like that whole song. the mechanized kick'emwhenthey'reup chorus thing. perfect 1982 pop single. i can imagine electro-funk people digging it.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
everyone loves boys of summer. thank god another hired hand guitarist gave him that song to do.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
Hey I don't hate this song! It's smooooooth and groovy. The Eagles should have just been a soft rock band, like Ambrosia, from the beginning.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
I've never been happier to hear Glenn Frey's voice appear on an Eagles record.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
silkscarf monkey google search disappointed
http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mvNQBdi6ZX_3aIzv_7mMGww.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:01 (ten years ago) link
This song is three seconds shorter than Hotel California. For the first time in six albums, I can say that it sure didn't feel like a really long song.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
wow, they should've given bottles of hand sanitizer to anyone who bought this record.
This one slightly works for me (well, until "his jacuzzi runneth over"). Maybe it's just that with creeps like Frey and Henley in character as a different caste of creep---coked-out rockers acting out Hollywood casting-couch scenarios--it makes the typical Eagles sleaze seem toxic here. The vocal in the verses, with Henley sounding slightly altered (maybe he had a cold) and Frey dubbed above him, sounds like a ransom message. One too many guitar solos, and near the end we get the Henley standard cymbal crashes-lumpy tom fills, as if Azoff mandated they appear at least three times per side.
― col, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
Frey rocking the New Wave skinny tie look? Henley looks like he's been holding in gas since 1969
― col, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
don't look back, you can never look back.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
& Walsh looking like a late 70s porn actor regretting his life's choices
― col, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
"What have I done?! I used to be a porn star...and now I'm in the EAGLES?! Ugh, fuck my life."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
Joe Walsh was one of the first shows I ever saw. He opened up for Stevie Nicks at Barton Coliseum in Little Rock on his "You Bought It, You Name It" tour. That was also the first record that I'd ever sell back at a record store. Wore the shirt for a long time though.
At one point during "Space Age Whiz Kids", they turned out all the lights and the band was wearing these neon plur-lookin' lights. Joe was ahead of his time.
Liberty DeVitto was playing drums for Nicks on that tour. It's the closest I've ever been to seeing Billy Joel live.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
I'm almost touched by the poignancy : boomer cuts hair, remains asshole.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
this is a dirge
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
it is a dirge. a sleazy yet elegant dirge, with that guitar phrase coming in one at a time to combine in three-part harmony. I think Don acquits himself just fine on the drooms, and I quite like Glenn's high harmony.
and yes here's where he has the brass balls to critique Hollywood lowlifes for predatory behavior towards chicks, which is super amusing in light of the quaalude incident soon to come.
I love this song for the creepiness, the finger-pointing hypocrisy, the guitar playing, the hermetic, expensive L.A. airlessness. This and one other on side 2 is what some ILxor on the Long Run thread I started in my first days here on ILM described as making up "dark heart" of the record.
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 15:10 (ten years ago) link
― carl agatha, Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:59 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Ambrosia was a prog band when they started out. No kidding! And a good one.
(www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR_62HiZuXI)
― Lee626, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
If only the band, and those still willing to pay to see them, could GET OVER IT ...http://www.rocknycliveandrecorded.com/2013/10/the-eagles-american-airlines-center-dallas-texas-october-11-2013-reviewed.html
― Danelectro, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
Heard an interview with Patty Griffin on the radio. She's a real sweetheart. Anyway, at one point she tells the interviewer that the older she gets, the less she knows, and the guy responds with "just like Don Henley sang." And there was this three seconds or so of silence that basically served as a tacit "what the fuck are you talking about?" And then the guy goes on to sing a few lines from "The Heart of the Matter," and you can tell Griffin is both totally lost but, because she's a sweetheart, totally humoring the interviewer. Because clearly she had never heard anyone quote Don Henley lyrics before, let alone ever given them a moment's thought.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
I do dig the groove here, there's a proper sleazy lounge vibe to it. It's the one time I could see this being a Fleetwood Mac number, meaning Bob Welsh era of course. Terrible lyrics though and the phrasing is far too samey and obvious. This is Henley singing? How can you tell?
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
I've kept them to myself mostly, but a lot of these Eagles reviews are pretty hilar.
Early on, he promised that the group would educate as well as entertain. That meant clips from the film about what book inspired this song and how they told that producer it’s time to rock. It also meant a lecture about the night’s harvest moon and playful scolding when Professor Frey mistakenly said CD instead of tape and the fans laughed.
“I’ll tell you when to laugh. That wasn’t a joke,” he half-joked.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
The nearly three-hour concert... opened when Don Henley and Glenn Frey, on acoustic guitars and vocals, took the stage for the wistful country-rock ballad “Saturday Night.”
“This portion of the show is meant to give you a feeling of what it was like in the early summer of 1971,” Frey said, recalling the band’s first sessions at a hole-in-the-wall studio in Los Angeles.
Those carefree days in 1971 I spent at KeyArena listening to a 60-year-old man sing country-rock ballads.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link
The second set clipped along at a nice pace with a rousing, honky-tonk rendition of Heartache Tonight, Walsh's chugging rocker Life's Been Good -- one of the night's few forays into the members' solo output -- and The Long Run, which Henley dedicated to the audience.
"This has become kind of our anthem because we're still here and you're still here," he says. "We're here because you're here."
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
god i just want to run up to glenn frey and laugh in his face and tell him what a pointless old asshole he is
― Untt (La Lechera), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
From their show in Saskatoon:
Each main band member took a turn talking to the crowd, usually about how cold it was the last time they were here. Frey told a story about Joni Mitchell, obviously unaware that she has fallen out of favour with some locals.
As the show reached its final third, and the huge hits came out, the crowd went bananas. They danced, sang along and gave ovations for almost every track. When the show ended and the band took time to wave at each section of fans, they did so to raucous applause.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
don and glenn: never show when you can tell. and tell and tell and tell and tell and tell and tell and tell ad infinitum…
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:34 (ten years ago) link
let's hope it's a mutual pact: when one finally dies, the other will too.
is there a portion of the show meant to give you the feeling of what it was like in Henley's bachelor pad, 1979?
― col, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
"King of Hollywood": This isn't quite as bad as I remember it. Nice guitar work, including some dual harmonies. The locked rhythm section working for rather than against. The lyrics are another matter. Kind of interesting that there's no real chorus. Henley has a good time in To The Limit dissing movie people, or "Movie Pukes" as he calls them. We hear about how Julia Phillips (producer of Taxi Driver, Close Encounters... etc.) wanted to do a film adaptation of "Hotel California" with the band as actors but backed out because she discovered that (a) Henley & Frey were unlikable dicks, and (b) at that time the band's publishing was in dispute with David Geffen being sued by the band and Azoff. Seeing dollar signs, Warner/Asylum released the album anyway, adding a disclaimer "copyright in dispute" to initial pressings of the album. The Donster claims the band was only humoring the coked-out producer, and they never seriously considered going into the movies.
This was all pre-Country Bears obvs.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
I'm already looking ahead because I'm dreading the 90s shit show, and because I was confused about when they were releasing new songs. I didn't realize Hell Freezes Over was four new studio tracks AND the whole unplugged jam of the classics.
And looking at the tracks they went back and replayed, I'm surprised by the one solo song they did (not counting In the City.)
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
we aren't doing the unplugged stuff. in case anyone didn't catch that. just the four new songs on that thing.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
Phewwww...
I did catch that. Just didn't realize that album was new studio/greatest hits live combo.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
GET OVEEEEEERRR ITTT
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
Frey told a story about Joni Mitchell, obviously unaware that she has fallen out of favour with some locals.
???? what's up with that?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/07/24/joni-mitchell-saskatoon_n_3647004.html
Said Saskatoon's bigoted, just like the deep south.
― pplains, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
Walsh looking like a late 70s porn actor regretting his life's choices
aka walsh looking like matthew mcconaughey
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
i do like the groove -- agreed that there's something fleetwood mac-ish about it -- but mostly this song makes me want to listen to the rolling stones' "tops."
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
or "World Turning"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
but mostly this song makes me want to listen to the rolling stones' "tops."
Thanks to the Eagles limited film licensing, they'll never get to be part of something like this: http://youtu.be/kGViaTOfSow
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
by this point in our survey, I'd say any song on Tattoo You > any song by the Eagles
― col, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
TS: Frey solo vs. Jagger solo.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 20:50 (ten years ago) link
Has Frey ever been involved in anything as delightful as Lucky In Love? No, he has not.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
BETTIN' ON UH FILL-EHH, DOWN AT DUH TRACK! hadn't heard that song since '85, and indeed it's charming. the video, particularly.
Sometimes Keith's influence is not the be all and end all, and Mick's interest in keeping up with the Joneses in the charts is refreshing. If keith insists that the stones must go to the blues, country, reggae, chuck berry well over and over again, then I think it's great that Mick is interested in other newer shit. If keith had his way, then no "Miss You," no "Emotional Rescue" no "love comes at the Speed of light."
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:16 (ten years ago) link
yes so sick of the Stones sucking that reggae well dry
― Ayn Rand Akbar (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:20 (ten years ago) link
even Jagger's bid for MTV play "Just Another Night" (it worked) boasts tricky rhythm changes, good synth colors, and Those Vocals.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
ahem…I suppose, in light of mr SM Collier's sneering, that I should clarify that jamaican music is kin to the others I cite in that Keith considers them to be true and real and arrgh claarrgghh / heh heh / cackle / fuck him he's such a whore/ his cock is small /phlegmy asides and so on…it's tedious.
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link
Wonder how many takes Henley had to go through before getting the drums rights. Unusually non-clod footed here. (Mick Fleetwood would have been aces playing this)
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
Nice guitar on the outro though (Walsh?). Gilmour-like
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:39 (ten years ago) link
like all the guitar work on this track. doesn't really seem in character for any of the guitarists.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 15 October 2013 22:51 (ten years ago) link
Eagles sighting -- not really a song but a weird mention. I was listening to the Nerdist podcast interview with Slash on my way into work and as they were trying to get around the awkward non-conversation of trying to find out about Axl without saying his name, he said how he watched History of the Eagles on a tour bus recently & loved it, but how a lot of the falling-out part was 'depressingly familiar' to him lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 01:14 (ten years ago) link
"Heartache Tonight"
http://www.raw-tcsd.com/Eagles.GER.12394.jpg
http://youtu.be/snPgFNMCXBs
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
i love this song. mostly for that awesome beat, but i just love it.
Haim know what i'm talking about!
Seth Rogen 5 days agomy dad brought me here and i'm glad i grew up with classic rock:)THANKS DAD!!!!
respectclassics 5 months agoIs that autotune I hear? Nope! its called talent!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
This song sounded like an anachronism in 1979: it sounded like a mid seventies holdover. I'll never like it.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
that beat is technotronic. they were ahead of their time.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
Ugh, I can't stand this. There's a quick bait-and-switch where you think you're on for some Rock And Roll Part II madness; then it turns into this boring mid-paced crap. People will line-dance to this, how can your pride stand it?
Walsh does a decent job tbf, the slide points towards a different song entirely. But the rest is simply awful, from the horrible multitracked Who Are You vocals (which incredibly get worse when set free) to the most leaden of leaden beats from The Don. Bass completely anonymous, words asinine, no risk whatsoever.
I could understand this record were it a wedding band cutting their one demo - play safe, studios are expensive. But when you're The Eagles and you can do whatever you like, I just do not get it.
'Teenage Jail' though, lol no spoilers
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
This song sounded like an anachronism in 1979: it sounded like a mid seventies holdover.
It almost sounds like a song by that one band, oh what was their name, had a hit in '74 about seeing the stars and not seeing the light....
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:32 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I heard the Haim song this morning, and I'm pretty sure it's a straight sample of this.
Everything I hate about the Eagles -- the awkward-ass cymbal flailing, Glenn trying and failing to prove he can "rock," the nastiness of the lyric (I just assume it's Glenn celebrating dicking someone over), the stiffness of the vocal harmonies, the laughter-inducing "Break my heart!" towards the end -- is pretty much why I like this. They put everything shitty Eagles element into one song and made it count.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
the horrible multitracked Who Are You vocals
The "Who Are You" chorus/backing vocals are all Pete, from his demo. He was a one-man Eagles!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
So here's the Harold Jenkins version, complete with horn section:
http://grooveshark.com/#!/search/song?q=Conway+Twitty+Heartache+Tonight
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
This reminds me of Little River Band -- like 70s-era 50s revival "with a country rock edge", like it came out of a food processor. Not my thing then, or ever, unless I have some sort of great life experience while this song is playing, and then I guess anything is possible. Until then, yuk. I made it to 0:32.
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
Tried to find a YouTube of it, but only found a Conway Twitty impersonator performing it which, let me tell you, led me down the deepest of rabbit holes.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
And it does have that LRB vibe to it! Kind of the weird second cousin to "The Other Guy" with the beat.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
I worked with this guy at a record store who looooooved to sing at the top of his lungs to shit like this -- esp LRB -- and I will never forget how happy he seemed when he was singing. He looked like Donny Osmond. That's the closest I can get to liking that borderline showtunes country-rock stuff that this song exemplifies.
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
hate this one intensely, in part for personal reasons (it was a big "bleacher stomp" song during football games at the school my mom taught at in the early '80s---imagine 200 surly/drunk teenagers chanting the opening lines and you know what my personal hell will sound like). but like everyone else said, it's just lame, Frey's vocal is a grotesque harbinger of his '80s career (that last holler he does--gah) and Henley's beats sound like a place-filler guide drum track that they left in the final mix by mistake.
only thing I disagree with is it sounding like an anachronism at the time. It's very much '79 for me: always seemed like a rip of "We Will Rock You," for instance.
what did Seger contribute to this? the chorus?
― col, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
i really wanted my dad to take me to see the eagles/linda ronstadt/little river band at the yale bowl in the summer of 1980 but he wouldn't do it. oh sure he would drag me to see dizzy gillespie and woody shaw and chico freeman when i was that age but could i see the eagles? nope. wait a minute...uh...thanks dad!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
well, it sounds like an anachronism cuz it's a mellow-man vibe trapped in an arena rock shell and doing miserably at both.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
This is another Friday night song for me. Remember when it was a current hit on the charts. Stayed in rotation on the Pizza Towne and Eagles Nest jukeboxes. I can still picture (much later after it was a hit) lugging a cooler full of Coors out of a flatbed while another truck cab closer down to the lake blared this one.
Funny thing is that in my mind, I always think that someone's going to have a heartattack tonight. I mean, shit is tense, right?
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
"but like everyone else said, it's just lame"
not everyone!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
And yeah, this is very much of the We Will Rock You era. Crazy Little Thing Called Love was in the same rotation on those pizza jukeboxes.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
I miss those days when a decade would change and suddenly everyone would change their look at once. Glenn would shave his stache, Freddie would grow one....
cool dadand yeah, it does sound super 79 but i was 4 at the time, so my impression of it is all kind of visceral. When I was 4-5 I was really into the Beatles and Blondie and ABBA (my mom's records) and this song sounded like boring old people music.
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
One mustache passed between the two of them. xp
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: …and then they sold 12 million records, and everything changed! As Bob Dylan said, “They deceived me into thinking I had something to protect.” And that’s what happened with us. We made it, and it ate us. The Long Run became, indeed, the long run. It was a difficult record to make overall, but I loved “Heartache Tonight.” Whenever Bob Seger was in L.A., he always used to come over and visit me, and he’d visit Don, too, and play us stuff he was working on — and we would do the same. I seem to remember that I had the verse thing going on for “Heartache Tonight,” and I was showing it to Seger, and we were jammin’ — I think we were jammin’ on electric guitars at LaFontaine — and then he blurted out the chorus. That’s how “Heartache” started. Then Bob disappeared, and J.D., Don, and I finished that song up. No heavy lyrics — the song is more of a romp — and that’s what it was intended to be.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
I'm not much older than LL. Mom was into Heart and Elton John. I didn't know what my dad listened to until later when I'd ride in the car with him three hours every weekend for visits. These late-era Eagles songs were the first hits I remember hearing that weren't my mom's music.
Well, that and the Grease soundtrack. Those two older kids up the road played that one to death.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
The Long Run became, indeed, the long run.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
amazing it took four writers including pros like Souther and Seger to cobble this shit together
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
hate this one intensely, in part for personal reasons (it was a big "bleacher stomp" song during football games at the school my mom taught at in the early '80s---imagine 200 surly/drunk teenagers chanting the opening lines and you know what my personal hell will sound like).
This is not my experience with this song, and my bleacher stomp personal hell happened 1986-90, but I can fully identify with this. (I was in band so we had to attend every game and I hated football anyway and our team didn't win a single game my junior year and after we got caught sneaking away to smoke/drink early in the season we were forbidden from leaving the stands and it just suuuuuuuuuuuuucked.)
Anyway, this song is kind of sonic wallpaper for me. I think it's kind of fun in a drunk on bud light in a dive bar kind of way. My aunt, who was 12 years old than me and loved metal and was a big influence on my musical taste, HATED this song and programmed me accordingly so I don't think I'll ever be able to really love it but I could see getting into it in the right drunken circumstances.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
its probably just nostalgia for me. i played the 45 so much. that drum machine was the shape of things to come for me. i always liked the harmonies too. joe walsh is actually my least favorite part of the song. always wished the whole song were more minimal which is why i always wished that a rapper would just make a rap song with that beat and then i could have the best of both worlds. i don't really like the Haim song. maria was playing the Haim album in the car the other day and i had to try really hard not to say anything but it sounded so terrible to me. the production. she ripped a copy from cd but it sounded like bad internet sound to me. i gritted my teeth.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:28 (ten years ago) link
We were lucky: our bleacher stomp songs were "Push It" and "It Takes Two" (Rob Base & DJ EZ-Rock).
I don't think anyone in my high school publicly admitted to liking the Eagles, except this one kid who threatened to beat me up because I told him Eagles Live was heavily overdubbed.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
love this but not nearly as much as when i was four when it was my favorite song of all time, my first favorite song (thought it might've been 'queen of hearts' but that didn't come out til a year and half later). love the quiet-loud dynamic mixed w/ honky tonk, love the compressed guitar wanks, love when they bring it all home, love that stupid banal ad-lib for once, love the foreboding girl group of the verses (1-2 henley's coming for you, 3-4 better lock your door), love that girl group BEAT. that said we're a hop skip and jump from 'the heat is on' here.
― balls, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
We did Push It and The Show! I still like both of those songs very much, at least. xp
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
Our marching band wasn't nearly good enough to play "Push It" or "It Takes Two," so recordings were played during games. But some of us played along anyway to the delight of probably no one. Still love those songs, though.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
Never particularly liked or disliked this one, it was just there ever since I was 12. I do remember being very mildly and oddly thrilled when the local radio stations would (occasionally) play the complete version with the useless drum fill at the end - kind of an AM easter egg.
Joe's slide breaks are nice.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:00 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Walsh makes the track. I'm sort of surprised at the hate this one is earning today, but I see some good reasons. This track is the real "Chug All Night", Frey finally mastering the bar band boogie. Another one of those songs that became a blueprint for Contemporary Country, it's true Urban Honky Tonk music. When I heard this on the radio as a kid, I thought they were singin' "There's gonna be a PARTY Tonight, A PARTY Tonight I know..."
In To The Limit, JD Souther talks about his part of writing the song, revealing that they were trying for a Sam Cooke-style groove (think "Twistin' The Night Away"), going so far as to clap their hands in time as they tried out lyrics. This is pretty much lost in the Eagles version, but you can hear it in Souther's live appearances: http://youtu.be/HJMx-H-BOzg?t=2m19s
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:56 (ten years ago) link
I am not ashamed to say that I love this. I always have, always will.
CLAP
CLAP-CLAP-CLAP
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Picturing the Eagles standing around trying to clap their hands in time and then going, Aw forget it.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:02 (ten years ago) link
Heartache to me is like a paint-by-numbers version of Eddie Rabbitt's 'I Love A Rainy Night'.
Like, heartache would go perfectly on a "Shitty Dive Bar Over-40's Singles Night" playlist
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:07 (ten years ago) link
(fyi I Love a Rainy Night is maybe one of my favorite songs ever in the whole world, so that wasn't meant as a total insult)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:08 (ten years ago) link
lol pplains
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:15 (ten years ago) link
vg, I love that song, too!
Ugh, "I Love A Rainy Night" can eat my poo.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
(sorry, shit-ton of airplay in 198whenever, kind of monotonous, and fuck Eddie fuckin' Rabbitt).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link
Frey: "No heavy lyrics — the song is more of a romp"
I'd like to imagine Frey coming down on Henley during a vocal session. "No heavy lyrics, man! Cut out the shit about the fucking frontier for once!"
agree that (& to give the devil its due) this song was a huge influence on '80s country. The more "rockin'" Alabama singles are in its debt, for one thing.
― col, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:26 (ten years ago) link
HENLEY: This song is basically about the end of the seventies. We were worn out, exhausted by drugs and women. Plus, we saw the age of Reagan. We saw how hopeless were gonna get.
FREY: The chicks started giving us more lip too.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
tarfumes y u braek heart
Eddie Rabbit wrote 'Kentucky Rain' which makes him UNFUCKWITHABLE
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
Oh shit, he wrote that? I didn't know! I love "Kentucky Rain"!
Rabbitt loved him some rain metaphors, apparently.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
Rabbitt has this in his favor as well: http://youtu.be/B05ekks0RqY
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
xpost Rabbitt also wrote "Patch It Up"! http://youtu.be/Xa5_NtRU_A4
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
and sang my beloved "Suspicions"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
" maria was playing the Haim album in the car the other day and i had to try really hard not to say anything but it sounded so terrible to me. the production. she ripped a copy from cd but it sounded like bad internet sound to me. i gritted my teeth."
I know exactly what you mean. I listened to the whole haim album and liked the writing, the playing,the performances a LOT but there is rly something wrong with the way it sounds. Like a rough mix that wants to grow up into an amazing mix. Cramped and sorta brown.
Eddie rabbitt was on the radio literally every 10 minutes when I was a kid. It was like kool and gang celebration, Eddie rainy night, repeat repeat repeat
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
The guy at my record store was named Eddie! It took me all day to think of his name, but it was Eddie. Not surprisingly, he loved Eddie Rabbitt.
― Untt (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
Eddie rabbit should have written a song abt hrududu
― play on, El Chugadero, play on (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:21 (ten years ago) link
I don't know how to make Youtube links not embedded but if I did I would post a link to Driving My Life Away which is my favorite Eddie Rabbit song.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
I associate Driving My Life Away, Dreamer (Supertramp), and Whip It because they were all on the radio around the same time and they were all my favorite songs.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
Late summer/fall 1980 iirc. Except "Dreamer" didn't get much airplay my way because the studio version was already a hit six years before, nyah nyah.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:13 (ten years ago) link
I think the live version released in 1980 charted higher than the studio version in the US.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
This song brings back memories of its constant reverberation through dorm room walls. I think there was a rule in effect my freshman year that required this song to be playing very loudly somewhere in the building at all times. Bill Berry provided temporary relief by blasting the Sex Pistols from the window of his room, but those were dark days.
― Brad C., Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
How can this be? It's the lamest shit imaginable!
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:25 (ten years ago) link
This is the first Eagles song i'm old enough to remember before it existed. Knew only the '71-'75 hits album at the time, which my 9-year-older brother had, so wasn't even aware the Eagles were still an active band until this came on the radio. It clawed at me then, and still does. (my bro who bought the greatest hits album couldn't stand it either). And no, it didn't sound like typical 1979 pop to me at all.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
It does fit right alongside with 1980 Country radio hits like Juice Newton, Eddie Rabbit, "Somebody's Knockin'," Charlie Daniels Band, Alabama, Exile...
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
So many songs about the devil showing up on people's doorsteps that year. wonder if he looked like don henley.
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
Hi Dere!
http://media.commercialappeal.com/media/img/photos/2011/02/04/Ronald_Reagan_t607.jpg
― scott seward, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
my favorite era of country
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link
ILX quoted out of context
― pplains, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
and some posters already think this of me!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
Gives "Reagan country" a new meaning
"Heartache Tonight" was a #1 single for a week in Nov '79: it knocked off "Pop Musik," held off "Dim All the Lights," then dropped off quickly
― col, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 21:35 (ten years ago) link
the L.A. mafia played on "Dim All the Nights." whatta difference
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
haha brad c i didn't know you were og athens!
― balls, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link
o man i nearly forgot - been waiting to post this for A WHILE:
http://youtu.be/ulY4lxWNct8
do yrself a favor and click that
― balls, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
i mean william h macy doing a murder suicide didn't put as much of an exclamation point on the decade as that thing
― balls, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:03 (ten years ago) link
and speaking of urban cowboy country - http://youtu.be/KTaOZCecMsk
― balls, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
― balls, Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:02 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Thanking you.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:23 (ten years ago) link
tangentially related - http://youtu.be/J3X3bhqhstE
not really related at all but i'm posting it anyway - http://youtu.be/D8mQ9nt5WAY
― balls, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
There truly was no better TV than cocaine TV.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 16 October 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
yeah, since that year, I kind of like it here
― Brad C., Wednesday, 16 October 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
balls, what an amazing cultural artifact: thanks.
― col, Wednesday, 16 October 2013 23:17 (ten years ago) link
No michael beck, no credibility.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:09 (ten years ago) link
Being a kid and watching that ONJ-type Hollywood Night of 100 Stars crazy TV on a regular basis did a number on me, a number that I can't quite put into words.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
wow that clip balls posted...
btw did anyone notice the quick cut of a sign for a Romantics/Plimsouls double bill???
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
aw man this is really gorgeous, a family doing a really gorgeous country harmony version of peaceful easy feeling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVi3jcKdUwI
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:06 (ten years ago) link
(sorry for the embed, i don't know how to do it right i guess can someone tell me)
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
click the 'share' option on youtube and use the link provided there is the best way
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:24 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 October 2013 01:25 (ten years ago) link
thx
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:10 (ten years ago) link
np
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 October 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link
i mean william h macy doing a murder suicide didn't put as much of an exclamation point on the decade as that thing― balls, Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:03 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― balls, Wednesday, October 16, 2013 5:03 PM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
balls not just otm, but EAGLES OTM!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 October 2013 04:43 (ten years ago) link
OMG balls I saw that '78 ABBA/Olivia/Gibb special on live TV when it aired! Not only that, I even had a cassette recorder in front of the tv speaker taping the whole thing, and I listened to it for weeks afterward! It was one of my first-ever exposures to pop music of any kind. I still remembered some of the segues from song to song to this day. Didn't remember Andy Gibb completely missing the entry to "(Love Is) Thicker Than Water"....
― Lee626, Thursday, 17 October 2013 06:48 (ten years ago) link
In balls' clip, who's that in the leather breeks next to Olivia onstage? It looks like Cliff Richard but it can't be him.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 October 2013 12:14 (ten years ago) link
I am so charmed by your anecdote, Lee.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 October 2013 12:25 (ten years ago) link
"Those Shoes"
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/GFrey1978Baseball03.jpg
http://youtu.be/8LLgSY-b3DA
― scott seward, Thursday, 17 October 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
i forgot about this song. i love how this song sounds. and for once i don't mind the length at all. even the members of Cameo might nod their heads to this.
― scott seward, Thursday, 17 October 2013 12:55 (ten years ago) link
best track on the album for me. While it's mainly Walsh's show, Henley's King Sleaze routine is almost sublime here.
― col, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:11 (ten years ago) link
Felder finally gets another vocal part.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
And yeah, somewhere in 1979, Roger Troutman looked up and said, "This is the Eagles? The band with those Poco guys?"
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link
part 2 of dark heart of Long Run here. condescension! hypocrisy! sexism! entitlement! a track that represents those qualities effectively and compellingly…I guess don felt as if he was above the jerk-offs in their fancy cars (much less movie pukes) because…he's famous? cuz he has big thoughts about the despoiling of the environment?
Don rises to the occasion on the drooms, much more nimble on the ride cymbal than you would think … eagles funk, finally, after the hideously misbegotten "On the border". Joe and Felder sound tight as hell…they had their eye on Donald and walter here, and cocaine paranoia results in a cut that could have pointed a way for later shit (although I suppose a few 80s henley tunes owe this tune).
above photo is probably from the Rolling Stone vs. eagles softball game: eagles kick Jann et al's ass…
and so I think today is the right day for this, which I wrote 5 years ago…
http://idolator.com/392421/
― veronica moser, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
That was great, want to read the RS article
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
Those Shoes is probably the best Eagles song... Really effective, funky (didn't think they had it in them), ominous... Great song....I mean I'm ignoring the creepy misogyny but at a certain point it's the Eagles and they've worn me down
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:49 (ten years ago) link
Great piece, vm. I always liked Charles M. Young; he did a great Who interview in 1989. Gonna try to find that 1979 Eagles article.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
above photo: poor Tim Schmit doesn't get his official Eagles uniform until he passes probation; Frey looks like an asshole coach who's the adversary in some early '80s teen comedy
― col, Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
much more nimble on the ride cymbal than you would think
This is otm. I was wondering how Henley suddenly got so funky, but it sounds like the shaker/shekere (?) player is doing a lot of the funk heavy lifting.
But this should've been an instrumental. Fuckin' Henley's creepitude is just off the charts here.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 October 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
Did Schmidt steal his bandana from Michael Anthony?
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
I keep thinking of Elton's "Who Wears These Shoes?"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
I don't think I can listen to this song.
― Untt (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
This is the life we chose
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
we could be reading buzzfeed listicles all day.
― scott seward, Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
we could be MURDERING people, but no we are listening to eagles.
:( a student at my school was murdered last weeki'll listen as soon as i have access to earphones -- right now i am proctoring an exam!
― Untt (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
LL, if it helps you can just listen to the Beasties' "High Plains Drifter" and call it a day. In fact, listen to all of Paul's Boutique. It's on me.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
Felder Comes Alive, dgaf.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
Cher being wheeled out on a 20-ft high heel, ''The Tonight Show'' (1981)
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
I'm not gonna listen to it. That's that.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
i'm going to have to escort you out of the building.
― scott seward, Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
You can be escorted out all you want, but you can never leave.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
You would willingly listen to Chug All Night and James Dean and endless streams of boiled garbage but you won't listen to THIS?
ffs Alfred
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
every time i think about james dean i laughthat's something
― Untt (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
He also doesn't like George Harrison, brb flagging all his posts.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
I don't like George's voice. Who does?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
i do
― Untt (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
Don rises to the occasion on the drooms, much more nimble on the ride cymbal than you would think
compare drum intros from "Shoes" and this 2-year-earlier hit:
http://youtu.be/E6I4SVdKxCE
― Lee626, Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
http://youtu.be/qsulExJUP7Y
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
great piece vm! in a way i should hate this track cuz it was this track that put the notion in my head that hey maybe the eagles have other awesome deep cuts
http://www.manaleak.com/mtguk/files/2013/09/waynes-world-not.jpeg
― balls, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
I always kinda liked this song as a kid cos of the beat and then later when I heard it in that Beastie Boys song I realized how awesome it really is!
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
Also, this would probably be the best Eagles song to strip to.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:28 (ten years ago) link
This, or "Journey of the Sorcerer".
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
I'm not really good at stripping.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
weather-stripping iirc
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
Another one I like. There was a period where this one wasn't on the radio, and in that time I discovered Paul's Boutique while forgetting this track. One afternoon I heard it on air as a "deep cut"and was all like "HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER!" Supposedly the Donster was none to pleased with the sample. My sister told me that back when she was in high school (early '80s), word in the lunch room was the wearer of the titular shoes was none other than Stevie Nicks.
The guy who filmed a scene wherein a young woman was wagered along with a $50 and a case of beer in a card game, and subsequently lost to Humble Pie
THOSE SHOESDON: One of my favorites. At that time, all the girls were wearing Charles Jourdan shows — the ones with the little ankle straps. They’d become very popular and we were big fans [laughs]. And so, we said, “Well, it’s not enough just to write about that; we have to turn it into a metaphor for women standing on their own two feet, so to speak, and taking responsibility for their own lives, their own losses.” That was our intent. The lyric “Once you’ve started wearing those shoes” meant “Once you’ve started being your own woman and taking responsibility for your own life; once you’ve decided not to be just decoration — an appendage to some guy — then this is all the crap you’re going to have to put up with in conjunction with that.” Anyone who decided to become the master of his or her own destiny always has to put up with a lot of crap. On the surface the song was about the singles scene: the beautiful, young women seemingly unaware of the sharks waiting in the shallows… sharks that sometimes included us. It was also a great, great beat. It gave Felder a chance to strap on the talkbox, a device which Joe Walsh pioneered on “Rocky Mountain Way” — and the two of them soloed together…GLENN: As far as I know, it’s the only double-talkbox solo in existence. That’s Felder and Walsh on talkbox at the end singing “Butt out…butt out….”
GLENN: As far as I know, it’s the only double-talkbox solo in existence. That’s Felder and Walsh on talkbox at the end singing “Butt out…butt out….”
I love how Henley spins the lyrics.
http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/XeKjKWXWZOE/hqdefault.jpg
"Everybody knows "Those Shoes" is misogynistic. What I propose is...maybe it isn't."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
How is it that the sentence containing the words "Felder" and "strap on" manages to be the least-offensive sentence in that whole paragraph?
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
Not even gonna get into how one could "solo" with another person.
― pplains, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
Henley's explication of his lyric sounds like something you'd find on "Songmeanings.com"
― col, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:54 (ten years ago) link
Got those pretty little straps around your ankles Got those shiny little chains around your heart. You go to have your independence but you don't know just where to start.
WOOOO that is some consciousness-raising feminist writing right there.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 October 2013 17:59 (ten years ago) link
GLEN: So I was all, "You got to have your independence, but you don't know just where to start. So how about you start with a hummer!" Haha, right?
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
― pplains, Thursday,
GLENN: Ya shoudl've seen Henley solo with Nicks that night in Houston! Ha!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
it is something how about 50% of Henley/Frey lyrics have their origins with the two of 'em in a bar going "man, look at that chick"
― col, Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:14 (ten years ago) link
lol forever at stripping to JOURNEY OF THE SORCERER, btw.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
well, Keith Richards' lyrics are "Man, look at Mick with that chick."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
ha, i'm between classes now and finally clicked on the link1) i've heard this song a zillion times! had no idea it was called "those shoes"2) which song would you rather strip to: those shoes, that smell, or journey of the sorcerer? i think there is a clear answer here. 3) this song is a-ok with me provided there was a full henley extraction4) i only made it to 2:32 but i looked at the lyrics and loled at thisYou just want someone to talk to They just wanna get their hands on you You get whatever you choose Oh, no, you can't do that, Once you started wearin' those shoes.
whatever gramps
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
Supposedly the Donster was none to pleased with the sample.
Not like THIS Donster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m6ejkF-cSk
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
They just wanna get their hands on you.You get whatever you choose.I mean look at what you were wearing.What did you think would happen?Slut.Hey, want to check out the hot tub at the Eagles' Nest?
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
um
http://youtu.be/sIPtrAkamsk
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
it's not NSFW but it's kind TCFW (too creepy for work)
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
why did i read the commentswhy did i watch that at allthis guy rules http://youtu.be/v-Z8SvOuGGI
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
oops that was supposed to be this oneshe was cute too http://youtu.be/CCuYLkSgZ6o
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
this is what youtube suggested links gives me now, btw :-/
Haha I know I had to choose between fucking up my YouTube or fucking up my Spotify
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:15 (ten years ago) link
what a bunch of masochists we are! my god.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
listen don't EVER tell Henley you use Spotify
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
I wonder if Frey thinks Spotify is some kind of new herpes cream.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 October 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link
ILX - strap on the talkbox
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild: One of These Nights is playing on the radio right now.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
Ahhhh now it's a cover of Desperado!!!
― carl agatha, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
Eagles Classic Rock Block on the day before Glenn Freyday.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
I've listened to this four times. I can hear that it's been put together well, that the beat is relatively stompin', that there should be enough sleaze to get a grip on ... but each time I've zoned out and only been brought back in at the end by the ol' strap on. I think I'm maybe just Eagled out, it's obviously one of their better all-round rhythm performances, I just don't care. I like Funky New Year a whole lot better.
I guess I could praise the guitars, hey? They're tight here. In fact they've been consistently excellent, whoever's been playing them - there probably aren't more than half-a-dozen songs where you couldn't isolate the guitar tracks and find them a damn good listen.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 17 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
"Teenage Jail"
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/eaglesVB12.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98vOJs_h1bI
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:01 (ten years ago) link
i kinda love this. i don't know if i've ever even heard it before. i have no memory of hearing it. the guitars rule.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link
also wish the ending kept going for another five minutes. when do i ever say that about an eagles song?
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:06 (ten years ago) link
The guitars are great but jeez what a dirge. I'm wondering exactly what kind of band do The Eagles think they are? They don't seem to have much idea where their strengths lie or what they should be doing.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link
This reminds me of something. Maybe an early Built to Spill song? Not all of it, just the guitar and the initial vocals.
I'm a little freaked by gorilla boobs in that picture.
― carl agatha, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
"Synthesizer (Solo): Glenn Frey"
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
HA no it's not a Built to Spill song. It reminds me of a song by a now defunct early '00s NC band Rebar, and I will never remember the name of be able to find it, although I have it on a mix somewhere. Just trust me. They are very similar, except I liked the Rebar song much better.
― carl agatha, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
I found their website. Bless.
http://home.earthlink.net/~jaestar/rebar/rebar.html
― carl agatha, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
Seventy seconds into this song and I couldn't finish it. What a fucking plod.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
jesus christ, this song. there's no reason anyone who don't own the record would have heard it, as the average AOR/classic rock listener would be bewildered and change the station…
every single aspect reeks of showbiz sherbert/peruvian marching powder. "ssnnnfffff…uh…yeah…this is great…uuuhhhff…"
it's like Glenn wanted to do a parody of alice cooper/sabbath song, but 5-6 years too late. so ill-advised, but one of two tunes he sings on the record. In particular, Don sounds very gacked up. Know what though? I'll take this and tomorrow's selection over the sanctimonious elegy coming up on Sunday. I'm glad they put this on the record: you'd think a band universally known to be careerist, risk-averse and beholden to "quality control" would have developed one of the riffs you can hear on "Long run leftovers) instead of this utterly bizarre episode of cocaine psychosis.
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
okay okay I finished it. The solo is fine but what is it doing attached to such a ponderous tempo?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 13:35 (ten years ago) link
because Don sucks most of the time. It is indeed strange as someone said upthread that he seemed to want to be a drummer. Peter Gabriel started off as a drummer, but made a choice that Don probly should have. Fuck, it doesn't strain credulity that maybe Syzmicyckckckckck edited in, like Russ Kunkel or Joe vitale playing various parts like that swinging ride cymbal…
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
It's like they're trying to do the Stones' "Sway," or something Sabbathy, but like Billy Joel when he tries to "rock," they inevitably fail miserably. And every utterance of Henley's makes me want to just pound and pound his face with a shovel.
But that synthesizer solo is ace. It's like Sun Ra snuck into the studio and laid it down when no one was around. But since all the Eagles were coked out of their skulls, they assumed one of them probably did it. A quick round of rock-paper-scissors gave Frey the credit.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
i still like it! it doesn't really sound like eagles maybe that's why. its kind of a weird tune. i'll take this filler any day over most of their filler. the guitars really do sound great.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
their jacuzzis really do runneth over
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
Is Don Henley supposed to be dressed up as ... Don Henley in that picture?
― pplains, Friday, 18 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
perhaps as a supplementray exercise today a list of singer-drummers? this should only encompass drummers who were one of the main singers of the band, not the drummer who sings occasionally (ringo, bill ward)
Phil Collins, Karen Carpenter, Levon Helm, Kelly keaggy…and who else? If anyone can cite a singer-drummer as swing-deficient as DH…they win, I guess.
and "Teenage Jail" has to be in a tie with "Journey of the Sorceror" as the most out-of-character cut they done…
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:02 (ten years ago) link
the guy from the Romantics?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
Grant Hart!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:03 (ten years ago) link
Don Brewer!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Friday, October 18, 2013 9:54 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'll grant that this is better than most of their filler, mainly because it's more obviously filler than the other filler that was trying to pretend it wasn't filler.
It's still hilarious to me that it took them 2 1/2 years to make a record, had to hijack a Walsh tune, shoehorned in this filler, and still couldn't hit the 43 minute mark.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
His drumwork was indeed competent.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
Mickey Dolenz!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:08 (ten years ago) link
Hilarie Sidney!
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
What's-his-name from Mates of State!
Janet Beveridge Bean and Georgia Hubley (and Mo Tucker)
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Milford Graves!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:11 (ten years ago) link
The guy from Night Ranger!
(those aren't the same person, btw)
Al Bouchard
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
the guy from Rare Earth
Buddy Miles
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
scott seward @skotrok 21m"Teenage Jail" is underrated, I don't care what anyone says. The guitars are great!Collapse
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
that's right i tweeted about it.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:19 (ten years ago) link
who's kelly keaggy?
Night Ranger dude.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
the answer to Senor Seward's question is answered by Tarfumes' second to last post. His fills before the closing verse in "sister Christian" achieve henley levels of hapless flailing…
running the risk of sounding like a Eagles-style sexist, the only drummers cited so far that are shittier than Don are female. I'm not a fan of the Mo Tucker school, and don't think Georgia is very good.
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, October 18, 2013 10:07 AM (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I always love that someone says this when Brewer's name comes up, he was actually a damn good drummer.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
Georgia's no Buddy Miles, but there's nothing as soul-killingly plodding as H's work on "Victim of Love" in the YLT catalog
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
― veronica moser, Friday, October 18, 2013 8:35 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah my first thought was that this was kind of a sabbath parody, like a sarcastic shot at their burnout fans etc?
what a bunch of dicks.
i feel like i've said this like 12 times on this thread but i cannot believe this mess got on a major label "event" album from a big band.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, October 18, 2013 10:35 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'll grant that he was better than competent. But Mel Schacher's bass never literally rattled my bones, nor did I ever find Mark Farner's lyrics to be particularly wild (or, for that matter, shirtless).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
Let's just move on to discussing what sort of vehicle the Alan Parsons Project was.
(Hovercraft, obvs.)
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
Spaceship duh!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
fully-equipped RV
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Pretty sure it was a hovercraft.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5x7ntsUZS1qz9m8ao1_500.png
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/47/Time_passages.jpg
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
Don Henley's drumming doesn't disgust me because he is technically deficient -- I don't really care about that, so comparing "bad" drummers isn't really worthwhile -- but imo as a drummer he is boring, uncreative, and devoid of feeling/passion. He has no flavor. He has no zeal. He is the hospital food of drummers.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
his drumming is just like him
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
is the hospital food of drummers.
and just as expensive!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
But Mel Schacher's bass never literally rattled my bones
^the bass sounds so good on their early records, especially the s/t red album. i dont have the chops to say whether he's a good player, but goddamn the bass just SOUNDED so good
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
He is the hospital food of drummers.
This is hilariously OTM.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
It's supposed to rattle your BONGS!
And John Garner is my favourite singe-drummer of ever.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:27 (ten years ago) link
lol "singer"
But singe-drumming does sound like some unappreciated art
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
pretty sure mel would have rattled you if you had seen grand funk live in the early 70's. think they were supposed to reach Who-level decibels at concerts back then.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:35 (ten years ago) link
nor did I ever find Mark Farner's lyrics to be particularly wild (or, for that matter, shirtless).
It's the delivery, man...
http://api.ning.com/files/wUP*es1PHsQjxC0XEQNpNSPeiiYW3Egy6M0TyWhOSMwzbfKGR6FAeaczWWn9Lx6uqntBLn2jp1h2Vbd6xoTKymAZtnVs9PFW/387746_143901142377997_113234608777984_154005_582000117_n.jpg
As for "Teenage Jail" (which, tbh, sounds like a GFR title)--more genuinely classic filler. Henley later called the three obvious filler pieces on this album "comedy songs", and I have to say that for such uptight & humorless dudes, their comedy material is way better than the peaceful easy loverman snoozefests that normally filled the bands between the hits. As for the Sabbath thing, perhaps their (musical) influence from those days at Criteria finally rubbed off?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
people kinda forget that grand funk were as big an influence on future metal as deep purple or black sabbath. they were heavy heavy live. lots of bands got heavier after hearing them. world-wide. (or at least when people talk about the roots of metal and proto-metal they don't always bring up grand funk.) (probably because they got less heavy as time went on.)
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 17:39 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, they're much better known for their goodtime boogiein' Freedom Rockin' singles than for "High On a Horse" or whatever
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
D'oh, you're right. I hope somebody got fired for that blunder.
My exposure to GFR is limited to the radio hits, Homer's hyping of them, Live Album listed among the worst live records in The Book of Rock Lists, and the following inscription on Parliament/Funkadelic records:
"Protect your loved one from GRAND FRAUD RAILROADISM!"
None of those things -- especially the captain song yeah yeah yeah yeah -- has made me want to investigate further, but I don't doubt they were influential.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:02 (ten years ago) link
i like them a lot. they are actually more varied than the radio hits would lead you to believe. they could be dopey, but their albums are very entertaining and honest to gosh funky too at times.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
"The thing that closed the Fillmores down," he suggests, "and the thing that makes a group like the Who or Grand Funk, who really have got their finger on the pulse, sell-out so fast is that there's no place for good up and coming bands to play anymore."
But Townshend thinks the biggest thing holding rock back is the audience. It's not interested in ripping it up at concerts anymore. It just wants to sit there and watch. "Rock isn't doing what it did. Its audiences are buying records when they buy tickets to rock concerts. They're buying the privilege to see a performance, and not to be part of a rock event. For example, someone like Terry Knight will say one of his wonderfully stupid things, such as 'If Grand Funk says go out and smash the city, the kids will do it.' But the kids won't do it—they want Grand Funk to do it. If anybody's going to do any smashing, it's gotta be Grand Funk, because that's what they represent to their fans. And that's what I feel is wrong with the present scene. If anybody should tear down a city—let's not be so blatantly revolutionary —I mean if any changes have got to be made, it's got to be the people themselves that do it, and the music that talks about it, that instigates it, that reflects it and approves it while it's happening has got to be the product of communication between an entire generation and not just a bunch of musicians."
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Townshend's totally OTM there, but I think the problem also lay somewhat with Grand Funk; they wouldn't say "smash the city." Grand Funk wasn't gonna challenge their audience. That's not necessarily a bad thing in and of itself, but I don't think the blame lay entirely with the audience(s).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
to be fair, 50% of grand funk's songs were protest songs.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
Really? Cool, I didn't know that. It's like what I was saying about my Chicago debut album discovery:
The double-LP album's inner cover includes—in addition to the playlist—the entire lyrics to "It Better End Soon", and two declarations: "This album should be experienced sequentially", and, "With this album, we dedicate ourselves, our futures and our energies to the people of the revolution. And the revolution in all of its forms."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
also to be fair, they were terrible at writing lyrics:
If we had a president, that did just what he said,The country would be just alright, and no one would be dead,From fighting in a war, that causes big men to get rich.There's money in them war machines, now ain't this a bitch?
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
and their protest was more of a vague good-timey kinda protest. but the general theme of their music is dissatisfaction in general.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
Live Album listed among the worst live records in The Book of Rock Lists
^ this is very sad. Goddamn, whatever lists there are in that book must be shit. Live Album fucking rules. One of the best live albums ive ever heard.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:30 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Friday, October 18, 2013 2:09 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Totally agree. The first three or four albums totally slay. Dont let the "Locomotion" turn you off, that's not representative of Grand Funk. They declined once they got the keyboardist in.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
Grand Funk would be a pretty sweet band for this kind of treatment.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
Grand Funk wasn't gonna challenge their audience.
^according to some old sages who were around at the time ive spoken with and would know, nobody got the crowd lathered up as much as Grand Funk on a good nite
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
yeah that epigram always amused me: Chicago's future included revolutionary tracts like "hard for me to say I'm sorry"…
grand funk were despised by the crit intelligensia (marsh, bangs, marcus) for, probly, catering to the kids and blue collar folks who came up right after '67-'69. They had the teenage burnout audience to themselves (maybe Alice Cooper). No big band would be as viscerally disdained until Kiss, a band notably unbeloved by many contributing here. Chad kroeger was on Howard stern with his wife Avril this week, and a lot of listeners complained: "nickelback sucks" etc…Howard said reminded him that in the early-mid 70s you had to hate GFR, cuz Mark Farner was indeed shirtless. Maybe Nickelback, who I don't despise, will be regarded more kindly, in that it seems to me most people dislike their lumpen proletarian audience, rather like GFR forty years ago.
I just got Detroit Rock city, an oral history of detroit rawk from my wife, who gets a lot of free books, and a quick jump through discloses that either Wayne or Dennis feel like if they were managed better or did less titanic amounts of heroin, that the Five woulda had GFR's audience. I don't like to play "they coulda been contenders" but the idea of MC5 being as big as the Who please me. Nothing against GFR, they just always seemed dull.
and just as I'm writing this, the Haim song with "Heartache Tonight" beat comes on…
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
Eh, lots of google results for "bone" anyways. Also many spellings of "Mel Shocker", grrr
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
wait veronica moser is not a woman? maybe she is a woman with a wife?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
Theres no question that elitism plays a part in Grand Funk's reputation with the "intelligentsia" (if intelligence can be used to describe a scumbag like Dave Marsh).
Fuck em all, Grand Funk sounds good to these ears. Definitely not dull and definitely not like Nickelback.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:47 (ten years ago) link
Actually Marsh liked GFR for awhile (or pretended to) before leaving Detroit for RS and Springsteen worship. "E Pluribus Funk" made his '71 top ten! [/pedantic Creem archivist]
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
fwiw, the Who was the only band that the MC5 didn't blow off the stage at the Grande (I think they agreed it was a draw).
From the perspective of 2013 it might seem ludicrous that the MC5 coulda been as big as the Who or GFR, but Kick Out The Jams charted higher than any Who album had at that point. And while the single only reached the high 80s in the Hot 100 chart, it was #1 in Detroit.
And I don't aggressively hate GFR or anything, and any band that can get a crowd up is ok by me. But getting a crowd boogieing is one thing; getting them boogieing while simultaneously drawing the ire of the FBI is another. I guess that's more what I mean by challenging an audience -- or inspiring an audience to challenge.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 18:57 (ten years ago) link
lol grand funk derailthread
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, October 18, 2013 1:36 PM (27 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
good idea
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
"Veronica moser", per ILM and a few other online fora, is a man. The real Veronica Moser is a notorious female star of german pornography. The words "german pornography" should be a significant heads-up that one googles that name at their peril.
― veronica moser, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:28 (ten years ago) link
another band that would be pretty cool to do this with would be Genesis IMO. lot of ground to cover.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
ooo Genesis would be great.
― carl agatha, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
grand funk records are enjoyable. they're fun to hear! i have a best-of in the store that i listen to (a later one) that mixes in stuff that isn't remembered today and, along with their canny cover choices, its solid all the way through. i like their sound and the early stuff rocks hard, but i will go along with the critics when it comes to their actual lyrics which could be REALLY really dumb and almost sub-literate at times. they were just lazy in the writing department. even by hard blooze rock standards. the MUSIC they wrote wasn't bad though.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
like, some of their songs have lyrics that look like a high school kid or junior high school kid wrote them and even then it might be a slander to high school and junior high school kids to even say that.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
genesis you get it all from fancy pants prog to 80s pop and that weird in-between era
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
Xpost^^So not that different than the Eagles then? (I kid...or not?)
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
Sure, but a junior high kid not without knowledge of classic soul/blues/r&b lyrical tropes and the occasional grasping at poetic metaphor xxpost
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
i'm actually a much bigger fan of ten years after. the nickelback comparison works in a way. GF became hugely successful taking 60's blues rock and grand funkifying it. lots of bands did the same thing obviously. and i'm sure people tore their hair out and thought it was a crime that rory gallagher (or fleetwood mac or chicken shack or whoever had more street cred) wasn't as huge as grand funk.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
"Hooked On Love"
Well, did you ever have something, you want the whole wide world to know about?It's that something I must tell you, that you just can't live without.Ten times your fingers, and double your toes,That's how much I love you and how much it shows.
[CHORUS]You know that I am ... hooked on love.I'll tell you what I am ... hooked on love.Believe me when I say it ... hooked on love.Hooked on love, ohhhh ...
My brothers and sisters, hear what I say.I'm gonna' love you, to my dying day.When I tell you that I love you, well, at least I tried.I want you to believe me, this ain't no lie.
[CHORUS]
Satisfy my need in life, now, let me hear you say.You'll be lovin' me alright, until your dyin' day.Just say it a little bit louder now, I'm startin' to get in your groove, yeah.You've got nothing to worry about, your love is on the move.I hope some day the light of love shines bright upon your face.I don't care who you are, I love the human race.
Satisfy my need in life, now, let me hear you say.You'll be lovin' me alright, until your dyin' day.Just say it a little bit louder now, I'm startin' to get in your groove, yeahYou've got nothing to worry about, your love is on the move.I hope some day the light of love shines bright upon your face.I don't care who you are, I love the human race.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
I'm sitting here lonely like a broken man.I serve my time doin' the best I can.Walls and bars they surround me.But, I don't want no sympathy.
No baby, no baby,All I need is some tender lovin'.To keep me sane in this burning oven.And, when my time is up, you'll be my reefer.
Life gets worse on God's green earth.Be my reefer, got to keep smokin' that thing.No, no, no, no, no, no.No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
i'll stop there. but there are dozens of wonderful examples. spiritualized should cover "hooked on love". looks like one of that dude's songs.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
I'm generally of the opinion that lyrics aren't meant to be read/printed, but ffs, even Aretha couldn't breathe depth into those.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
one more head-exploding example:
"Freedom Is For Children"
I wrote the words of freedom,I've even sung the song.But freedom is for children,'Cause they don't understand what's wrong.
The children are so very lucky,'Cause they're not old enough to know.Not old enough to realize,But they'll find out as they grow.
The children are so very lucky,But, on the other hand, who's gonna' save the land?The children are so very lucky,But man's invention is gonna' be the prevention of their life.
This song is nearly over,And so's the world and the day.There's something missin',But who will listen enough to do what it will take?
Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?
Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?Freedom is for children. Why can't it be for me?
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:11 (ten years ago) link
like, if your 8 year old kid wrote that you would show it to people and be proud. if your 12 year old kid wrote it you might start looking for a tutor or something. or a shrink.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
"Gotta Find Me A Better Day"
I been gettin' lonely, too much these days.I been gettin' lonely, I guess I better get away.But where can I go that's real? Life's a stage on a ferris wheel.And the actors are all fighting just to see who gets the lead in the play.
Oh, no, no.I gotta' find me a better day.
Talk about down, I feel so lonely.Talk about down, I'm startin to worry.Don't really want to be all alone. I can't get along with the chicks at home.The world just don't seem right, my head is spinnin', and I hate what's goin' down.
You gotta' find me a better day.
Oh, gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.You gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.You gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find, gotta' find,Gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find, gotta' find,Gotta' find,Gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.Gotta' find me a better day.[repeat to fade]
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
I could totally see a high school hardcore band writing something like that.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
oh god i can't stop. i'll stop. life's a stage on a ferris wheel! for your information.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
well, that's why kids liked them so much. they were kid-like. but i stand by their music. and terry knight knew how to make stuff sound awesome. the album they did with zappa sounds good too.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:17 (ten years ago) link
i'm a big fan of terry knight in general. terry knight and the pack were amazing. he produced question mark & the mysterians. i like the stuff on his label, brown bag. i like his production of grand funk and bloodrock.(even though things didn't end well between him and those bands) he was knifed to death in texas.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
rory gallagher irish tour 74 fucking slays
also JUST IN TIME GUYS AND GALS!!!!
http://www.stereogum.com/1525322/win-eagles-the-studio-albums-1972-1979-vinyl-box-set/giveaway/
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
i even like his bonkers paul is dead song that capitol was insane enough to put out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qihYFfOd_lk
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
yeah irish tour is the bomb. i like a lot of his records. with taste and without.
Pop market is selling the CD version of the Eagles box for $29.99 today (one day only special).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
i kinda wish we could do kansas instead of genesis. genesis are already taken really seriously by people. i only know like three kansas songs. i've never listened to an album. it would be a brave new world. there have got to be choice kansas deep cuts. right? plus, great fashion and solo album art.
http://www.recordsbymail.com/uploads/9-4-13-LPs2/51243.JPG
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-1j8sjIbWzLY/UfP-qwU4eeI/AAAAAAAAGPc/iPzZvCxvRMw/s1600/kansas+s+walsh.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
Wow that guy likes himself and his chest a lot. xp
― carl agatha, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
Haha I thought he was skateboarding, not doing a handstand on a keyboard.
― carl agatha, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
they've aged well too.
http://media.trb.com/media/photo/2012-02/228294380-23225316.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
kinda curious about 80's Kansas...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/16/Kansas_-_In_the_Spirit_of_Things.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
good Lord, that's like the fourth-tier superhero team you call when everyone else is tied up somewhere (xp)
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
They scored a MIDI-infused eighties hit
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
Avengers Kansas
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQnltsBiwHM
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
i experienced an excellent kansas deep cuts moment at the billboard film and tv music conference a year ago, when judd apato was reminiscing about his favorite bands when he was a teenager and started singing "portrait (he knew)" from point of know return. kansas would be fun! on the other hand, i once owned that steve walsh solo album and, despite that amazing cover, um, no.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link
apatow, dammit.
How about Styx? I've never owned a Styx album, barely know the songs outside of the hits - indeterminate membership from the 90s onward. Also, WTF is this:
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 October 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
Think we should poll this? So far contenders for next track-by-track thread are:
StyxKansasGenesisChicagoJourney
I'm sure I left a bunch out.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
if we're gonna do cheesy prog, we should maybe do supertramp.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
Not Kansas! Please!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
I love that Kansas album cover Scott posted! Wikipedia seems to indicate it was designed by Storm Thorgerson? I often don't like Storm Thorgerson's record covers (that Styx carrot thing is a good example) but that Kansas one is fantastic.
― Jason Manford would make for a sensational doctor (bends), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:51 (ten years ago) link
Billy Joel was under consideration as well.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
I've never heard any Kansas but I've got a sad feeling that album would not live up to its cover.
― Jason Manford would make for a sensational doctor (bends), Friday, 18 October 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
don't forget late 70s-late 80s Elton John.
Agree that Genesis is almost "too respected" for this sort of thing. Kansas would kill me.
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
Whatever the choice is, I believe the basic requirement should be "band members hate each other"
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 October 2013 21:02 (ten years ago) link
Styx/Kansas could be pretty cheesy indeed but I love 'em anyways at least they aren't coke-fuelled balls of sexist hate like Glenley & co. (At least not in the '70s - I can't speak for the 80s stuff where Walsh or Livgren (whichever one) went all Xtian.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
Instead of Grand Funk OR Kansas, let's do Mark Farner's and Kerry Livgren's contemporary Christian discographys.
― My question is primarily riparian (Phil D.), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:07 (ten years ago) link
For the worst GFR lyrics, "In Need" or "Mr. Limousine Driver" are pretty high up there. The latter is about Mark requesting his chauffer to concentrate on his driving while Mark can get busy with his ladyfriend in the backseat. The former is about a HS buddy of Mark's asking him how much money he currently makes. Great songs though!
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
That Steve Walsh cover is making me feel irredeemably insane
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
I saw an old high school friend, just the other day,He didn't ask me how I'd been, he asked me "how was my pay? "Now, do you call this a friendship, judging from what he said? If you do, I've a real tip: ain't nobody gonna' know about my bread.Ain't nobody gonna' know about my bread
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
Best suggestions though are:
styxsupertrampchicagojoel
I still vote for late seventies/early eighties Elton -- it's fun!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
elton also a good idea
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Farner must've been a cheap bastard - doesn't even offer the limousine driver 50 bucks or anything, just invites him to look away and do a crossword puzzle or something!
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
You wouldnt know if he was cheap or not because aint nobody gonna know about his bread.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
Especially not THE MAN
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
This is supposed to be fun?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
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― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
Supertramp is kind of intriguing
how about Alan Parsons Project?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
Scott would love that! iirc
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, October 18, 2013 5:18 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Mark was not a fan of the man. Especially when he got heavy.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
I never want to do this again.
― pplains, Friday, 18 October 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
actually I'm kinda into Journey....just because I'm curiuos about the early days
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Journey are too good for this treatment
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
i feel like Pearl Jam is a post 90s band that could kinda fit this. they probably have like 10 albums since i stopped paying attention.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
But few terrible songs, so it wouldn't be as much fun.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:33 (ten years ago) link
It certainly wouldn't
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:40 (ten years ago) link
i feel like Kansas or Styx would deliver
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:41 (ten years ago) link
Have you ever read the Wikipedia for one of those bands? How do you feel when you get to that A New Rebirth (1997-2002) section and realize there's still another half-page dedicated to this band who had a couple of Top 5 hits in 1983?
― pplains, Friday, 18 October 2013 21:45 (ten years ago) link
Who am I talking about, Kansas? Styx? Journey? Toto? Asia? Yes, exactly.
"The Sanctuary Records Years"
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:48 (ten years ago) link
Haha, is it time for scott to ask this question once more?
How Much Money Would It Take For You To Listen To All These Asia Albums?
― pplains, Friday, 18 October 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
Seems like we need a band:• generally considered to be pretty crap• with a few undeniable solid gold tunes• and proper chops• who hate each other• at least one of whom is an asshole• but have some decent stories
The Eagles aren't unique in this are they?
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 18 October 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
Styx fits all of those. IDK enough abt S'tramp or Chicago to say re them.
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 October 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
elton idea was basically the ten years in hell:
A Single Man (1978)Victim of Love (1979)21 at 33 (1980)The Fox (1981)Jump Up! (1982)Too Low for Zero (1983)Breaking Hearts (1984)Ice on Fire (1985)Leather Jackets (1986)Reg Strikes Back (1988)
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
I could go for a Billy Joel or 80s Elton thread. With Chicago, I feel like there'd have to be a cut-off point, like maybe just the Terry Kath years because there's a few records with no hits and likely few other redeeming qualities.
Best (worst) Chicago story has already been told; beyond that, I don't think there's very much that's interesting about them.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
xp, exception for Too Low For Zero, the one great brief-return-to-form record amongst those ten
― Lee626, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
we must not lose sight of the fact that Chicago have more than 20 studio albums including a swing band album and Christmas albums.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:10 (ten years ago) link
and that it's impossible to tell them apart from the album covers
― Lee626, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
styx have 15 studio albums.
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:12 (ten years ago) link
that's why the post-peak Elton's intriguing: he put out an album a year? What's on those things, besides the Top 10 hit each one (er most) produced?
Styx I'm curious how the sub-Andrew Lloyd Webber stylings of D. De Young developed alongside the Midwest rawk of Tommy Shaw and the Panozzo brothers
― col, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
Cornerstone was the first album I ever owned.
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
so many great styx haircuts...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tUtFVvOLDj0/UjB6J9dpp4I/AAAAAAAAE7w/6ErbLmOyCno/s1600/styx.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link
Classic poll:
DEFINITIVE CHICAGO ALBUMS POLL
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link
Nevuh nevuhNevuh say nevuhNe dit jamais jamais
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:15 (ten years ago) link
i would totally do styx. what the hell, you only live like an idiot once. i'd even post songs every day for styx. elton's dreary near-misses might make me sad. i have a feeling he didn't go 80's enough in the 80's. whereas styx just throttled the 80's and then stuck their styx-y tongue in the 80's mouth and the 80's just said jesus alright already you win i give up!
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:18 (ten years ago) link
Weird pointless Styx fact: Their charting singles from 1980-84 included "The Best of Times", "Music Time", "Too Much Time on My Hands", "Wasted Time", "Borrowed Time" and "High Time". ("First Time", released in 1980, did not chart.)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:22 (ten years ago) link
Not "Mr. Roboto"?
― Lee626, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
My nomination for a track-by-track would be Bread. Lots of tracks that will surprise anyone only familiar with the hits, and many of them (but not all) are quite good. Plus their discography is manageable - just 6 albums, and no reunions. Would have to include some essential prequels though, like The Girlfriends' "Jimmy Boy" and Pleasure Fair's "Morning Glory Days".
― Lee626, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, they had a couple non-"time" hits as well xpost
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
Bread might be good. Or America?
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
bread are great but they wouldn't bring the laughs? uniformly high quality pop/rock. don't get me wrong, i love them, but i dunno...
― scott seward, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
so ... creed? not totally sure about the undeniable solid golds, but otherwise, check, check, check.
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
creed isn't very amusing though
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
not a band but Joel probably closest to the Eagles in other regards. But I don't think I could slag through the entire discography. Except Attila....
― Lee626, Friday, 18 October 2013 22:49 (ten years ago) link
Three Dog Night had an exploding penis.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:58 (ten years ago) link
i'll actually rep for several songs on My Own Prison, the one that trips me up with creed is the "proper chops" bit
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 October 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
Xpost Glenn Frey is an exploding penis.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
Styx is made for this. I have their Behind The Mysic episode memorized, I watched it so many times
but I still would love it to be Billy Joel
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:00 (ten years ago) link
jfc i had never heard that story before
“I think it was Miss Oklahoma and we ended up spending the night together and in the middle of the sex, it was like a hot dog splitting and you know, I found myself in the emergency room with my penis in my hand waiting to be stitched up.”
― JACK SQUAT about these Charlie Nobodies (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
Hahaha me too! My favorite part: "The audience is beer, quaaludes, and 'show us your tits!' and I have to go out there and say, 'But Kilroy! What about the children of the world?'"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
What is the general critical consensus on Styx? The Eagles were loved by a big swath of the general public and mostly hated by critics; Styx had lots of hits but I don't have a good read on what the music cognescenti think of them. I do know their eventual intra-band warfare rivaled the Eagles'.
― Lee626, Friday, 18 October 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
"Dennis DeYoung is the Brian Wilson of Styx."
― pplains, Friday, 18 October 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
Styx are pretty universally ridiculed.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 18 October 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
I can't think of anyone who is the Brian Wilson of any band other than the one he was in. BW is unique.
― Lee626, Friday, 18 October 2013 23:21 (ten years ago) link
Styx is disgusting whereas the Eagles have flashes of brilliance, like gold teeth in turds.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
'Desperado' v 'Renegade'
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 19 October 2013 03:23 (ten years ago) link
I am kinda curious to know which Styx songs some of you will compare to Big Star.
― pplains, Saturday, 19 October 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link
i think a chicago one might turn up a few deepcut gems but i fear the brass
― buzza, Saturday, 19 October 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
also i want to write the name "guercio" multiple times
― buzza, Saturday, 19 October 2013 03:42 (ten years ago) link
Chicago wilderness years scare me more than actual wilderness
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 October 2013 03:44 (ten years ago) link
― pplains,
I laughed because this comparison is what makes ILM a shiny happy place.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 03:49 (ten years ago) link
early styx albums are rad. i dig them a lot.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0e/Styx_-_The_Serpent_Is_Rising.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 October 2013 04:33 (ten years ago) link
you get a little bit of everything with styx. hard rock, symphonic prog suites, broadway ballads, electro, power metal, pop, tommy shaw's hair, robots.
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 October 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link
styx next for sure
― balls, Saturday, 19 October 2013 06:23 (ten years ago) link
Every night I tell myself I'm going to be a blue collar man.
― Zachary Taylor, Saturday, 19 October 2013 06:59 (ten years ago) link
"The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks"
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/DHenleyGlennLRHug.jpg
http://youtu.be/Ms0VIKlp0CU
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 October 2013 12:50 (ten years ago) link
What a odd little tune.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 12:51 (ten years ago) link
if "Teenage Jail" was their dig at Sabbath/metal and "Strangler" a fuck-you to disco, was this their go at New Wave? Guess so: the organ seems to be a reference to Steve Nieve/Jimmy Destri. Dumb and a bit leaden, and having Henley sing never helps, but by Eagles standards this is fun.
― col, Saturday, 19 October 2013 13:03 (ten years ago) link
Yeah does sound a bit like the Attractions
YouTube says backing vocals by Jimmy Buffet!
I suspect it's not a new wave dig though. Perhaps: they are drunk/high & someone says "the Greeks don't want no freaks" and everyone cracks up & it becomes a thing for a few days and they decided to make it a sing as a goof... So they just jam out a little old Seger 2 chord garage rock throwaway
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 October 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
DON: I thought it'd be a good idea to write a fun song about how ancient Athens and Sparta weren't exactly copacetic with each other.
GLENN: They sure were funny lookin' in those days!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
hahahathis song contains the word "barfin"
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Saturday, 19 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
they were courting the animal house vote with this song. eagles frat boys at heart.
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 October 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
yeah, they probably watched Animal House with Buffett and then went into the studio and grunted this one out quickly.
― col, Saturday, 19 October 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
Wish there was a certain word to describe "second song to play during end credits of B-movie, right before awkward fade into the score."
― pplains, Saturday, 19 October 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
This is sort of like alternate reality where Elvis Costello is a frat boy.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 19 October 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
The barrel really was empty, huh?
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 October 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
they're chopping up the barrell & using it for firewood at this point
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 October 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
still appalled by Stevie Nicks dating both Henley and Walsh. Give to me your leather indeed.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 16:46 (ten years ago) link
still fond of this thread i started many moons ago:
TS: whenever i call you friend -vs- stop draggin' my heart around -vs- leather and lace
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 October 2013 16:55 (ten years ago) link
I'm as big a Nicks fan as you'll find on ILM (consult the archives) but this spongy kitsch is too much for me -- and Henley admitting he's scared and sometimes cries is too big a leap of faith for me.
― look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn),
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
ha! i almost cut & paste that here.
― scott seward, Saturday, 19 October 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
When I first started buying albums my mum advised me that if I'd just wait a few years, bands put everything good on a Greatest Hits anyway. It's like she grew up with The Eagles.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 October 2013 17:11 (ten years ago) link
When I first started buying albums my mum advised me that if I'd just wait a few years, bands put everything good on a Greatest Hits anyway
And now we're in an even better golden age, where many bands' entire worthwhile catalog can be found in a 5-CDs-for-$20 set from Amazon!
― Humorist (horse) (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 19 October 2013 17:16 (ten years ago) link
she should've been more vague with the second bit, then she could say she predicted file-sharing
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 October 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
whenever i call you friend easy
― balls, Saturday, 19 October 2013 17:21 (ten years ago) link
This song is dumb.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 19 October 2013 17:25 (ten years ago) link
I think it really says something about the Eagles that when they actually do a 2:20 song, the 'song' part is over at like 1:40. Could use a cheesy guitar solo on the coda to go with the chant. This is also were Henley starts on the path to making full-fledged New Wave tracks w/Danny Kootch, members of the Go-Go's etc. with less leaden results.
Don: We'd heard a little about Elvis Costello, who was beginning to make some waves over here, as our friend Linda (Ronstadt) began dipping into his songbook for her albums of the time.
Glenn: Not to mention we heard Costello had been dipping into Bebe Buell, and we all wanted in on some of that action!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 October 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
I'll donate all I have and anything I could steal to compile these dialogues.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
i wonder who out of that socal circle was the first to get into elvis costello - buckingham was a fan, ronstadt obv, nicks a huge fan (she's said on a few occasions that 'green shirt' is one of her favorite songs period). i wonder if that's how petty worked his way in - similar to ec but not quite as 'punk' in attitude, byrds fandom a obv connection.
― balls, Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
The memoir by Buckingham's ex describes a night out to see Elvis C. As the most trad of the punk fellow travelers and blessed with Ronstadt's support, it's easy to see the attraction(s).
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:11 (ten years ago) link
she's said on a few occasions that 'green shirt' is one of her favorite songs period).
from a summer '94 ish of Details, right?
In Please Kill Me, Buell tells a story about doing a modelling gig in London around '75-76 for Elizabeth Arden and how she fell in love at first sight with this guy she saw deliver some stuff to the studio. A couple years later she is shocked to see him again on stage at Hollywood High.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
she is shocked to see him again on stage at Hollywood, high.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:15 (ten years ago) link
i've seen it in like four or five interviews (sometimes unprompted), she LOVES that song
― balls, Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
xpost...and then she looks him up the next day and she gets him stoned on proper marijuana for the first time and they tool around LA and then she follows him back to England and...many years later E.C. says some nasty stuff about her in some liner notes.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
and yeah ec's talent and trad leanings were apparent enough, plus my aim is true is about as socal friendly an album punk/new wave was gonna hand them
― balls, Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
Buckingham seems like the most punk guy of all the L.A. FM crew
Stuff like "What Makes You Think You're the One" isn't far off from new wave
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
that's the one he said IS particularly punk inspired (Fleetwood's the only other musician on it).
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:26 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: "And you know something else? Music journalists like Elvis Costello because music journalists look like Elvis Costello. Ha!”
DON: "Wait. Didn't someone else already say that just recently?"
GLENN: "Well, yeah."
― pplains, Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:27 (ten years ago) link
Mick's metres on that one are so strange. I wonder what Henley thinks of it.
― Ismael Klata, Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
Great stuff from that Details interview:
Stevie Nicks: When we were recording "Stand Back" I decided to be really blatant and call Prince up and tell him that I had been inspired to write the song while listening to "Little Red Corvette." I told him that I figured my song was half his. He came over to the studio where I was recording and listened to it--as I turned extremely white and started to shake. Then he walked over to the piano and put on a really incredible keyboard track. And not only did Prince make it up right on the spot, he played it with only two fingers. Then he left.
Details: Did you see him again?
Stevie Nicks: Yes, when I was on the road a year or so later. I was sick, and Prince brought some cough syrup up to my hotel room. He was sweet--he walked around the room folding things, fluffing pillows, tidying up in general. Then he gave me a spoon of it himself. But when I asked for another spoonful he changed--he said, "I didn't come all the way up here just to get you hooked on another substance!" Then he left.
Details: Do you still see him?
Stevie Nicks: No. I was at the premiere of Purple Rain, and in the scene where he slaps Apollonia I freaked and had to go sit in the bathroom. Afterward I went back to see him, and when he asked why I'd left, I had to tell him, "When you popped Apollonia, it kinda popped my brain." He looked at me like it just killed him. We've never spoken since. (sighs) It’s a shame, really...we were alike in so many ways.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 October 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link
you cant make that stuff up
i've read some more recent Nicks interviews where she describe more recent encounters with Prince
― Lee626, Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
every encounter with prince reads like fanfic written on acid
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:57 (ten years ago) link
I can't remember if I posted the mystery suit Prince story on ilm before
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 19 October 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
You guys please tell me when "DON: Well, yeah" becomes a full fledged ilx meme!
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 19 October 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
Mississippi I ain't heard it so plz expand!
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 19 October 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
I want to hear more Nicks-Prince stories!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
Me, too!
Jesse and I took a cab to a baby shower and the radio was playing an Eagles rock block. The driver changed it halfway through the second song (Hotel California).
Before that, the driver was listening to sea shanties.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 19 October 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l105/Elvis1954/Lebowski/big_lebowski-eagles.png
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 20 October 2013 00:05 (ten years ago) link
Ok here goes: college summer temp job processing mortgage forms. Agency supervise was cool, pretty Mexican girl in mid 20s. She told us this. So, she goes dancing at Prince's Glam Slam club. On the floor, bouncer comes over and says Prince wants to meet her. So she goes up to his lair where he's reclined on a couch. She's wearing a catsuit (it's the 90s). Prince looks at her and asks,"is that a mystery suit?"
She doesn't know how to answer so she says, "uh...I guess?"
Prince doesn't say anything but keeps staring at her. An uncomfortable amount of time goes by then when it's clear shes not going to rip her clothes off, a bouncer leads her back out to the dance floor.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 October 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
Prince in unable to deal with normal people in social surrounding shocker
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 20 October 2013 01:59 (ten years ago) link
Bummer. I thought the girl was going to tear off her cat suit and reveal Stevie Nicks, hair blowing, bellowing "Stand Back."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 02:05 (ten years ago) link
"I didn't come all the way up here just to get you hooked on another substance!"
this is pretty funny though
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 20 October 2013 02:08 (ten years ago) link
"The Sad Cafe"
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/eaglesgefLRhot.jpg
http://youtu.be/lTaHJYfEpcY
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 October 2013 12:31 (ten years ago) link
Henley sounds kinda weird and mush mouthed on this one like he's trying to imitate Michael McDonald.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link
those sandals!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
Did they know it was the end? Frey, in retrospect, said the band was over halfway through recording Long Run, but did it feel like at the time? This does seem like Henley, his band facing oblivion, thought the Eagles needed their own "look how far we've come" maudlin retrospective, and he does his best Sad Hippie: "We thought we could change this world/ with words like love and freedom." But while he seems to be mourning the likes of Gram Parsons and saying goodbye to Leadon and Meisner, there's also a smug sense that he's on the mountaintop, looking back at the losers he's ditched. and then David Sanborn wanders in.
anyhow, in a happy world, this would have been the end. But we live in a fallen world.
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
DON: The truth is, we really thought we could change the world with love and freedom.
GLENN: Hell, there's at least a thousand chicks in Topanga Canyon and the Bay area who know what love and freedom are, thanks to us.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
...and back to the Eagles High-concept stuff. The electric piano is nice. Did it really take them this long to have a sax on a track? Not a great song, which was fitting for a not great band to wave goodbye. This kind of earnestness was nagl for this band.
Our heroes explain it all...
THE SAD CAFÉGLENN: The title comes from the book by Carson McCullers. I love the title, which didn’t have anything to do with the song, other than it was a great title. The line that really resonates for me in that song is “I don’t know why fortune smiles on some and lets the rest go free.” There were so many of us aspiring musicians hanging around at the Troubadour. Some nights when Doug Dillard got drunk enough, and Gene Clark got drunk enough, and Harry Dean Stanton got drunk enough… near closing time… they would all start singing. There would be these unbelievable impromptu versions of “Amazing Grace” — all sorts of Ozark spiritual things with the whole bar singing… That stuff never really happened. We were getting older (when we wrote the song), and there was a sadness because we had seen, close-up, that everybody’s dreams don’t come true. Or, at least, not in the way they think they’re gonna come true.DON: A train used to run down the center of Santa Monica Boulevard, right outside the Troubadour. Steve Martin actually had a routine where he’d get the entire audience to exit the club, hop a flatcar on that slow-moving train and ride up to La Cienega, a few blocks east. Then, everybody would hop off and walk back down to the club together. I don’t think that happened very many times — maybe not even more than once or twice, because the railroad people didn’t like it. It was kind of dangerous and there was liability involved. Still — and I don’t want to over-mythologize — it was something to remember. That was a wonderful time in Los Angeles. The city was alive with magic and a sense of possibility. People were warmer and more open than they are now.Then, of course, there was the dark side. Friends and acquaintances of ours (from that era) had begun to meet untimely ends — classic cases of “too much, too soon.” It was either that or “too little, too late.” So we were struggling to make sense of that dichotomy, that contradiction. Is fortune a good thing or a bad thing, you know? Is being fortunate, before you’re ready to accept it and deal with it, actually fortunate — or is it unfortunate? We were struggling with our own success — riddled with feelings of guilt and unworthiness. I think a lot of young artists feel that way. We always identified with that great song “Fakin’ It,” by Paul Simon. It takes many years and lots of experience for a man to get comfortable in his own skin. But the Troubadour, Dan Tana’s restaurant, the train — all those things served as a great metaphor for the search, the journey that so many of us were on.
DON: A train used to run down the center of Santa Monica Boulevard, right outside the Troubadour. Steve Martin actually had a routine where he’d get the entire audience to exit the club, hop a flatcar on that slow-moving train and ride up to La Cienega, a few blocks east. Then, everybody would hop off and walk back down to the club together. I don’t think that happened very many times — maybe not even more than once or twice, because the railroad people didn’t like it. It was kind of dangerous and there was liability involved. Still — and I don’t want to over-mythologize — it was something to remember. That was a wonderful time in Los Angeles. The city was alive with magic and a sense of possibility. People were warmer and more open than they are now.
Then, of course, there was the dark side. Friends and acquaintances of ours (from that era) had begun to meet untimely ends — classic cases of “too much, too soon.” It was either that or “too little, too late.” So we were struggling to make sense of that dichotomy, that contradiction. Is fortune a good thing or a bad thing, you know? Is being fortunate, before you’re ready to accept it and deal with it, actually fortunate — or is it unfortunate? We were struggling with our own success — riddled with feelings of guilt and unworthiness. I think a lot of young artists feel that way. We always identified with that great song “Fakin’ It,” by Paul Simon. It takes many years and lots of experience for a man to get comfortable in his own skin. But the Troubadour, Dan Tana’s restaurant, the train — all those things served as a great metaphor for the search, the journey that so many of us were on.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
I don’t think that happened very many times — maybe not even more than once or twice, because the railroad people didn’t like it. It was kind of dangerous and there was liability involved. Still — and I don’t want to over-mythologize — it was something to remember
I like this, it's so unlike the 'John would pee on nuns!' school of rock war stories
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:10 (ten years ago) link
I like how every name they drop in those particular anecdotes is someone waaaaaaaaaaaay cooler than them.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
From Flatbeds to Flatcars: The Oral History of the Eagles
― pplains, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:18 (ten years ago) link
...and with any other band, I wouldn't be immediately regretting my choice of words there.
― pplains, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:19 (ten years ago) link
Did The Sad Cafe have a Soul Kitchen?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
It was down the street from the Sunset Grill.
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:29 (ten years ago) link
were we doing "Seven Bridges Rd." or no? if not, i've gotta brace myself for tomorrow's song.
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:30 (ten years ago) link
and I will not go quietly
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:32 (ten years ago) link
this actually makes some sort of sense in a what-if way:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4jM6vMDxLE
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
Frey's "The One You Love," one of his first solo hits and an oppressive presence on Roanoke VA radio in 1982, seems to have come out of the Sad Cafe:
http://youtu.be/qmV9vk2950o
some wonderful Youtube comments on this one. "*-* I SPENT SEVEN WONDERFUL YEARS KNOWING THE ACTOR RAUL JULIA WHO WAS AN INTIMATE FRIEND. HE WILL ALWAYS BE THE ONE I LOVE AND I'LL ALWAYS BE HIS GIRL !! REMEMBERING RAUL." Also: "The beginning reminds me of Porn."
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:42 (ten years ago) link
i'm gonna break the rules in a minute here. bonus time...
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:47 (ten years ago) link
*taken from Selected Works: 1972-1999*
"Long Run Leftovers"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edXZ6Pb79II
"Random Victims Part 3"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqkD-NnjdRs
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesRS79-03.jpg
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:52 (ten years ago) link
^^ the Disco Stranglers, ready to par-tay.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
so, this way, we can blast into the 90's tomorrow. not gonna do the live harmony thing on the live album.
― scott seward, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
if only all their non-singles had been 20-second instrumentals
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
ugh the 90's
prepare your cyanide capsules, everyone
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 October 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
^^ get over it
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 20 October 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
If anyone needs help stepping in from the 70s to the 80s, I posted this video with today in mind:
https://vimeo.com/76572721
― pplains, Sunday, 20 October 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
that's inspired! Frey's 1980s equivalent of "Chug" is "Partytown," which is the song that the worst neighbor in the world is blasting through your floor at 4 AM.
http://youtu.be/54NWWRGLPA4
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link
I was so mad about YouTube muting the original audio...
― pplains, Sunday, 20 October 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
That assortment of random riffs is one of my favorites so far
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 20 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
oh pplains, that Chuggler's Blues vid...
Since we're not doing the live album, can we talk about Joe and the real Chug All Night (Long): http://youtu.be/QYBguT7mPHU
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
Guys, listen to "Partytown."
Glenn Frey is tired of his job, tired of his wife, so he's ready to kick some ass.
That's right! He's writing in character. Oh.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
dlanor epmart 2 months ago
This became my favorite song in 1982. I had just gotten divorced and I lived that line..."I told everybody they could kiss my ass"
Another solo Eagle gem from '82: Henley's "Johnny Can't Read": sorta-New Wave in which the Donster (playing a frustrated school teacher in video) complains about those damn soft coddled kids. It's very much the predecessor to tomorrow's song:
http://youtu.be/VYEm76840Yo
"is it the President's fault? OH NO. Is it Johnny's fault? OOOOH NOOOO!"
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
He should sing in this register more often.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
I like The Sad Cafe. It's hardly Abbey Road, but after the junk of almost the entire Walsh-era Eagles, it's an unexpectedly dignified exit for them.
That sad, it plods a bit - even now they still often can't develop a melody - and the drums are same as ever. This thread has made tedious drumming set my teeth on edge, when I'd've given it a free pass before. The same old hissy cymbals too I note. The Rhodes is good and the sax beds in nicely. So welcome after the sub-rock rock they've been squeezing out these last few.
I Can't Tell You Why is the best track here by far obviously, but Sad Cafe takes a comfortable second.
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:32 (ten years ago) link
one for Alfred: Frey's "It's Better in the USA". Check this mighty piece of Reagan-era jingoism (co-written by Tempchin!)
live recording link:
"Well, they look to the eastThey look to the westThe Third World wondersWhich way's the bestWe got freedom, we got soulWe got blue jeans and rock'n’roll
Man, there ain't no choiceIt's better in the U.S.A.(It's better in the U.S.A.)You can be what you wantSay what you wanna say(It's better in the U.S.A.)Why can't I make you understand?It's better in the U.S.A.(It's better in the U.S.A.)
I hear the same propaganda day after dayIt's gettin' so hip to knock the U.S.A.If we're so awful and we're so badYou oughta check the night life in Leningrad"
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
sorry here's the link: http://www.glennfreyonline.com/multimedia/MP3/BetterintheUSADelMar85.mp3
― col, Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
Why couldn't he make us understand?
― Ismael Klata, Sunday, 20 October 2013 19:51 (ten years ago) link
who on earth could they have name dropped who wasn't way cooler than them? steve garvey?
― open letter to an open letter to a fanzine (fact checking cuz), Sunday, 20 October 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
hahahaha
― balls, Sunday, 20 October 2013 21:12 (ten years ago) link
Are you seriously asking if the Buzzcocks bassist isn't cooler than the Eagles? You shittin me??
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 20 October 2013 23:41 (ten years ago) link
this is an eagles thread man, he ain't talking about steve garvey from the buzzcocks. disgraceful.
― balls, Sunday, 20 October 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
listening to "Partytown" and I feel like I'm in a Chevy Chase movie
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2013 00:59 (ten years ago) link
this is like the real 80s, the 80s that no one ever revives, this kinda lame rock n' roll pastiche done with bad sounding drums and instruments and synths and shit.
this live version actually changes "night life in Leningrad" to "ugly women in Leningrad"
what a fuckin asshole
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
and the Chevy Chase movie is Deal of the Century not Fletch or Vacation.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
lol thought y'all were talking about 'johnny can't read', which struck me as henley biting 'holiday road'
― balls, Monday, 21 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
Don: Glenn's insensitive remarks kept us out of Russia for years, denying us the opportunity to bring our music to these once oppressed people.
Glenn: Putin set me straight though. Let's just once the Eagles rolled into Stalingrad, we learned the true meaning of a 'Free Pussy Riot!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 October 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
Buckingham plays on BAPB, and Henley's solo career consists of recording his kind of "edgy" adult contemporary.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
sadly, solo Frey is in short supply on Youtube, but there are two songs from his just-before-the-reunion album that look amazing. "He Took Advantage (Blues for Ronald Reagan)" (Glenn breaks up with the Gipper) and "Love in the 21st Century," which apparently has a spoken phone-sex line interlude (like "Sex Over the Phone"!).
i leave you with Henley in the Thunderdome:
http://vimeo.com/68243359
― col, Monday, 21 October 2013 01:39 (ten years ago) link
i've come so close to playing BEAST on spotify over the past couple of weeks, havent been able to pull the trigger yet. i'm not sure if i want to listen to it when i'm able to pay some attention to it or if i want to listen to it when i know i won't be able to pay attention to it.
― balls, Monday, 21 October 2013 01:42 (ten years ago) link
try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9ut5nc9X04
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
Since the "Eagles Live" outliers, can I just say that Joe has a bit of fun with the "Eagles Live" take of "Life's Been Good", throwing in woozy guitar and changing a few lyrics ("they write Tim letters/Tell Glen 'Don's great!'")
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 21 October 2013 02:32 (ten years ago) link
outliers AREN'T BEING DONE, grrr
Life's Been Good was playing in a diner today. I don't know if there's been an uptick in Eagles or if I'm only noticing it now or what, but in response to Prof Whiney's hypothesis that the Beatles are everywhere, I would counter that it's really the Eagles that are so damn ubiquitous. If I weren't so tire I would try to extrapolate that into some kind of insight about the current state of our country.
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
^^Eagles are like serious diner music these days. Most of my 'In the wild' reports come from diners or casual dining places.
Jumping back to that imaginary 80s Eagles album Scott shared upthread, doesn't it seem odd that there are two tracks apiece (on a ten track lp) from Walsh & Felder and there's nothing from Schmidt?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 October 2013 06:40 (ten years ago) link
Also, THIS:
http://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i422/rb44056/MS3/42655.jpg
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 October 2013 06:56 (ten years ago) link
"Long Run Leftovers" unintentionaly one of the most interesting things I've heard from this band
― Lee626, Monday, 21 October 2013 08:54 (ten years ago) link
hahahahaha that picture of don henley is hilaire! he looks like you stuck the face of a cartoonishly drawn schoolmarm onto bob pollard's body and then took a picture of him in front of an illuminated trash chute. what is he holding?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 21 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
"Get Over It"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesHFOPress01.jpg
http://youtu.be/1H-Y7MAASkg
― scott seward, Monday, 21 October 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
Notes:
1. I have to remind myself they released it in fall '94. The production sounds like 2008.
2. Much crisper drumming because guess who was too busy getting himself into a fine froth to drum.
3. Why hasn't Rush Limbaugh used it as a theme?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
TheSilverRanger 1 week agoTo the pizza delivery guy who "never seems to have enough change on him." It is your goddamn responsibility to have change on your person at all times when making a delivery; I am NOT giving you a $16 tip. Get over it.
belziebub 1 day agotelling my parents & my kids to get over what ever they are having delusions about is an understatement. put them in their place or they will end up dead
jazsper123 1 month agoWhy's everyone so pissed? This song couldn't speak more truth about being a pussy. Get over it and kick some ass.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
I remember the first time I heard this on the radio, and I swear that at the end (3:25), instead of just saying, "Get over it!" Don said "Get over it...bitch!" But none of the youtube versions have that.
It's also possible I just imagined it, since it's probably what Don was thinking anyway.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 21 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
clearly unabashedly music by and for hateful old peoplei said it before, but i'll say it again: whatever, gramps.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 21 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
I've waited two months to get to this song.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 13:57 (ten years ago) link
tarfumes you remember radio experiences extremely vividly! i think it probably happened. grouchy old fart henley would have done that. i think this is the side of the eagles that i forgot that i hated! the grouchy hateful old person side.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 21 October 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
and it hit the top forty: one of the last geezer hits ever
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
It was the geezer-rock equivalent of the moon landing; no way could I ever forget it.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 21 October 2013 14:07 (ten years ago) link
i don't think i've heard this whole song before. i was avoiding the radio in 94 for the most part, except for oldies maybe.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 21 October 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
i'll always associate it w/ the miserable era of its release: fall 1994, the victory of the Gingrich Congress, & a time in which I had four consecutive, awful (but subtly different in misery) headcolds in the space of three months.
It's quite something (hell, a talent of sorts) that the Eagles can come back, 14 years later, and pick up being assholes precisely where they'd left off. You can see the roots of this song in Henley's smug "political" screeds and Frey's turn to Reaganism, which coincided with his steroided-mook look. But at least in the Seventies, you got the sense H and F were basing their sneers on some actual experience, even if it was just hanging out in high-end bars. "Get Over It" feels like Henley was watching Jerry Springer on TV in an airport lounge one day.
So the big comeback is mean-spirited crap, a song that classes America into whining pussies and the righteous people who are flipping 'em the bird. Probably the best drumming track they've had to date, though. Welcome back, gents!
― col, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
!!!!!!!!!!
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
It's a lot easier to stomach it if you picture this as the Eagles' version of a Rockpile song.
And, man,
Steve Buscemi was in everything back during the 90s.
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
i have only vague memories of this. i moved that year, so i was no longer hearing rock radio. i heard it every night during my graveyard shift supermarket job in connecticut. but by the time this came out i was back in philadelphia and getting my prime bitch rock from dog man star. can't believe this came out the same year as live through this and the downward spiral. come to think of it, two good alternate titles for hell freezes over!
― scott seward, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
The Rolling Stones were touring that fall. Kurt Cobain shot himself and out jumped all these boomer skeletons from the ground. No, Elton, I was not feeling the love that night.
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
actually, Mellow Gold and Under The Pink would have been good alternate titles for Hell Freezes Over too. also: Dookie. also: Dummy.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
This shit is especially aggravating coming from dudes that haven't worked a day since the late 60s
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2013 15:01 (ten years ago) link
I just looked at the lyrics of this for the first time. Holy cow what a hateful little song this is.
Also yeah kill all the lawyers and see how well you can negotiate your stupid royalties contracts by yourself, you bozo.
I do remember it but I thought it was dumb as hell (it goes in the category of "songs that I think are commercials the first time I hear them and am surprised to learn are actual songs" along with Music is the Doctor and Kid Rock's song about Michigan) and didn't pay much attention to it. In 94 I graduated from college and worked at a convenience store until I moved to northern California to live in a house full of wannabe pro snowboarder tweakers so I mostly listened to NOFX and Pennywise whether I wanted to or not.
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:06 (ten years ago) link
I'm sure Irving Azoff said, "Don, what a kneeslapper!"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 15:07 (ten years ago) link
On a related note, we saw Everclear at the Arkansas State Fair this weekend. I hope Billie Joe Armstrong wakes up every morning and hails Satan for everything he's got.
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
I will rep hard for "Santa Monica" but boy I do not have time for the lead singer's dad issues. Jesus, buddy, no need for all that Father of Mine bullshit. Just drink a little too much and suffer in dignified silence like the rest of us.
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
would you like to tell him to "get over it"?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 21 October 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
We watched this silly documentary about punk rock dads the other day (Jeff was looking for fathering inspiration from Fat Mike, I guess) and the Everclear guy was in it with his stupid goatee whining about his dad. Gross.
xp LOL omg I would. Nooooooo this thread has changed me!!!!
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
Kinda weird to see a 50-year-old man stand up in front of a bunch of fairgoers and say to them, "All right, sing along with me because you know the words: Fah-ther of MINE..."
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
GET OVER IT!GET OVER IT!
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
"I showed you, DAD!"
* Eats funnelcake *
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
"no need for all that Father of Mine bullshit"
this is pretty much the only everclear song i like.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
oh scott, no.
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
i thought it was well-written! and kinda poignant at the time. its not like i hear it every day. daddy gave you a name!
― scott seward, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
EaglesEverclearEvanescence
So many one-word E bands.
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
I really like that Father of Mine song! (hides)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 October 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
good rule of thumb i've found in life: anyone who refers to "'Billy' Shakespeare" is usually an ass
― col, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
oh another personal anecdote about this thing I forgot: my friend's sister was dating his horrible guy. they were having an argument driving on the NY Thruway and this song came on the radio and the dude cranked it, looked at her, and mouthed the chorus. They subsequently married and had two awful children.
― col, Monday, 21 October 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: my friend's sister was dating his horrible guy. they were having an argument driving on the NY Thruway and this song came on the radio and the dude cranked it, looked at her, and mouthed the chorus. They subsequently married and had two awful children.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
Aw I like the big Everclear record
Reminds me of working as a cook in a bar during collegeJust thinking about that "I walk with pride with my black girlfriend" song that's kinda o_O
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
Ha, I haven't been able to think of a way to phrase this:
But listening to songs like "Ain't Nobody Leaving!" where he brags about having a mixed-race nephew - He's gorgeous! - AIN'T NOBODY LEAVING. I mean, even in 1991, I would've figured most people's reactions to a kid like that would be "so?"
I keep having this thought of some 90s alternative rocker like Perry Ferrell telling people today, "Yeah, man! You gotta RECYCLE more, stop RACISM, let GAY PEOPLE wear a DRESS if they wanna..." and the reporter going "Wear a DRESS?"
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 16:10 (ten years ago) link
who is such a geezer today that it's conceivable that s/he could produce a song as lame/bilious as "get over it"?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 21 October 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
Who makes that their comeback song?
So many needlessly-defensive musicians back in the day.
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 16:16 (ten years ago) link
If this thread has proved anything, it's that the Eagles had plenty to be defensive about.
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 16:18 (ten years ago) link
what was the reason for getting back together anyhow? just the dough, Azoff promising they could sell $100 tickets? Henley's solo career was still pretty strong, post-"End of the Innocence," though Frey had been in the wilderness for a while.
― col, Monday, 21 October 2013 16:31 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
"who is such a geezer today that it's conceivable that s/he could produce a song as lame/bilious as "get over it"?"
any one of a hundred country dudes to thread.
― scott seward, Monday, 21 October 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
that's what i was thinking, only i didn't know who specificallyjoe the plumber's debut single?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 21 October 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesTIEgroup.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFbCOA0C-1c
― scott seward, Monday, 21 October 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
did Schmit have a grunge period? I can see him getting a memo from Henley/Frey to shave the goatee before the tour.
― col, Monday, 21 October 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
Reunion Walsh in today's photo looks a hell of a lot like geddy to me
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Monday, 21 October 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Monday, October 21, 2013 11:37 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
obv not old enough yet but Taylor Swift seems like a really resentful person, maybe she'll grow into it
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link
Oh golly. This does have a nice slick trash rock groove. I guess I generally missed this song in '94, or at least didn't associate it with the Eagles. I recall thinking it was Bon Jovi or somebody, probably because our mainstream rock station here at the time wasn't big on the Eagles. But I later found out the truth, and even later actually listened to the lyrics. Big mistake. I can imagine millions of parents in 1994 playing this song to their teenage children either to 'be down with them' or to teach some lesson about growing up. These kids would then go see Reality Bites while mom'n'pop went to the local Enormodome to see "Hell Freezes Over".
GET OVER ITDON: Written in a burst. It’s the fastest song, tempo-wise, that we’ve ever recorded. The best thing about it is that it got Glenn and I in a room together again, after 14 years, and we created something as a team, even if it wasn’t the best thing we ever wrote.GLENN: We were so sick of tabloid television — and this was eight years ago! I was so tired of professional victims everywhere you looked, all over the media. Don said, “I have a title: ‘Get Over It.’” I said, “That’s a song — let’s write it!” We got together at his place up the coast and wrote it. Whether it’s the best song we’ve ever written or not, it was the song that proved to use that we could write together again. During The Long Run our creative relationship became strained, perhaps just because we’d been going to the well for so long. We struggled to complete all the songs for The Long Run album. Let’s just say that I was less than confident that Don and I could get back in a room together and get through a piece of work. “Get Over It” showed us that we could get together and write again. For that reason it’s an important song to me.
GLENN: We were so sick of tabloid television — and this was eight years ago! I was so tired of professional victims everywhere you looked, all over the media. Don said, “I have a title: ‘Get Over It.’” I said, “That’s a song — let’s write it!” We got together at his place up the coast and wrote it. Whether it’s the best song we’ve ever written or not, it was the song that proved to use that we could write together again. During The Long Run our creative relationship became strained, perhaps just because we’d been going to the well for so long. We struggled to complete all the songs for The Long Run album. Let’s just say that I was less than confident that Don and I could get back in a room together and get through a piece of work. “Get Over It” showed us that we could get together and write again. For that reason it’s an important song to me.
Fun Fact: on The Very Best of..., "Get Over It" is followed by "Hole In The World" (aka "The Eagles 9/11 Song").
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 October 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
I was so tired of professional victims everywhere you looked
[Livia Soprano voice]: Poor you!
― col, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
does he really say "bitchin' a fit"?
cuz i always thought it was "pitchin' a fit" which is a phrase i've heard
god this song sucks
joe's slide playing is always p cool
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
I have also heard "pitch a bitch" but I have never heard "bitch a fit."
― carl agatha, Monday, 21 October 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
The lyrics I'm finding say "Pitch A Fit"
I turn on the tube and what do I see A whole lotta people cryin' "Don't blame me" They point their crooked little fingers ar everybody else Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves Victim of this, victim of that Your momma's too thin; your daddy's too fat Get over it Get over it All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit Get over it, get over it You say you haven't been the same since you had your little crash But you might feel better if I gave you some cash The more I think about it, Old Billy was right Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight You don't want to work, you want to live like a king But the big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing Get over it Get over it If you don't want to play, then you might as well split Get over it, Get over it It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak You're makin' the most of your losin' streak Some call it sick, but I call it weak You drag it around like a ball and chain You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown Got your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody down Complain about the present and blame it on the past I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass Get over it Get over it All this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit Get over it, get over it Get over it Get over it It's gotta stop sometime, so why don't you quit Get over it, get over it
Get over it Get over it All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit Get over it, get over it
You say you haven't been the same since you had your little crash But you might feel better if I gave you some cash The more I think about it, Old Billy was right Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight You don't want to work, you want to live like a king But the big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing
Get over it Get over it If you don't want to play, then you might as well split Get over it, Get over it
It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak You're makin' the most of your losin' streak Some call it sick, but I call it weak
You drag it around like a ball and chain You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown Got your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody down Complain about the present and blame it on the past I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass
Get over it Get over it All this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit Get over it, get over it
Get over it Get over it It's gotta stop sometime, so why don't you quit Get over it, get over it
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 October 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for posting the lyrics! I just hurled my lunch.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 October 2013 19:57 (ten years ago) link
bitch a fit is a good eggcorn
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 21 October 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
xp All by yourself?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 21 October 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
"I turn on the tube and what do I see..."
I used to write songs that started off like this too (when I was 11.)
― pplains, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
I've remembered I did once know an Eagles fan!
At my primary school there was a big mountain of a boy, strong as an ox but highly-strung and angry, and easily riled/bullied. I remember him once being pushed too far and charging all the way out of class and out of school grounds, bellowing, while the janitor chased and we watched agog from our classroom window. That he just kept going and never came back was the awe-inspiring thing.
Years later I was working in a hardware store. The storeroom guy - who looked like Napoleon Solo - left to live in Hong Kong and who should get the job but the ox. To his credit he seemed to have sorted out the anger thing and was a completely straight-edged guy. Except now he was a massive fan of The Eagles. He didn't appear to like any other music - in fact he considered non-Eagles music fans to be junkie degenerates. I think he got the Eagles love from his dad.
He never gave any indication that he remembered me, and given his difficult time at my school I never let on that I remembered him. And I knew not to tease too much - I suspect the rage was always pulsing away just below the surface. But I couldn't resist digs at The Eagles.
In truth I didn't know too much about them then, really just that Henley was busted with a fifteen-year-old and a ton of 'ludes. One day the ox was ranting against junkie musicians, which led to the following exchange:
- Like Don Henley, I said.- Don Henley's a brilliant guy.- What about when he was caught with a load of drugs?- ... no he wasn't.- He was; and he was caught with an underage girl as well.- ... I don't know about this and I don't know what happened - but you can bet she put him up to it
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 October 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for posting the lyrics! I just hurled my lunch.― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 21, 2013 2:57 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, October 21, 2013 2:57 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa377/asusundevils/Don_Henley.jpg
"Mission Accomplished!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 October 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
was this around the time of Brooce's "57 Channels (And Nothin' On)"?
is there a "Classic Rockers Watching Expanded Basic Cable" mini-genre?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 21 October 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
couple of years after. LOVED 'santa monica' (more than any green day song) and was generally ok w/ everclear but boy if you want to be depressed for everclear go on spotify and check out how many times they've re-recorded their hits over the past few years.
and here's my confession: i've never actually heard 'get over it'. in fall/winter? of 1994 i was in iceland and neither icelandic radio or the local armed forces network radio station which was programmed by 19 year olds for 19 year olds went anywhere near it. i was aware of it - yet another entry in henley/frey smugly stupidly attacking something they view on some level as an unworthy threat ('johnny can't read' is effectively an anti-video game screed).
― balls, Monday, 21 October 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
Can't access this on phone youtube, spotify doesn't have it and it doesn't seem worth starting up my computer for, so I guess this is where the eagles and I part company. Probably a good thing, no point in tarnishing the legacy.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 07:09 (ten years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-w7icfUzDN2I/T--UOykqb-I/AAAAAAAAG64/Cp5tJi-0f7s/s1600/toti+mju8.gif
"Yowza Yowza Yowza! Another one bites the dust here on the Eagles listening thread! How many will make it to the end?!?"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 07:53 (ten years ago) link
marathon chug contest!
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
Buckle up, it's gonna be a rough ride
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
last weeks of our survey are going to feel something like this:
http://youtu.be/0ECZW9R16EY
― col, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:10 (ten years ago) link
"Love Will Keep Us Alive"
http://www.timothybschmitonline.com/images/eaglesHFOFieldBW2.jpg
http://youtu.be/ljrB3M2IEqw
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link
I heard this song A LOT in early and mid '95, enough to disgust me for life. It defines "mawkish."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:21 (ten years ago) link
A solid rival for those YouTube videos that play 8 hours of box-fan noises as a sleep aid. The nearly-unchanging guitar arpeggio had me nodding off at my desk, and I've had 2 cups of coffee. The way Schmit wincingly sings "survive" is rather grotesque.
I recall hearing this one a few times in the '90s, but it's the sort of mush that blessedly fades from the memory v. quickly.
― col, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
The same five men who recorded "Those Shoes".
― pplains, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
As shitty and dull as Szymczyk's production was, it was never overtly dated-sounding. These '94 turds sound horrendously/hilariously early-90s, all digital reverb and elevator-music compression.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
co-written by Paul Carrack!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
"Love Will Keep Us Alive", is a song written by Jim Capaldi, Paul Carrack, and Peter Vale. It was first performed by the Eagles in 1994, during their "Hell Freezes Over" reunion tour, with lead vocals by bassist Timothy B. Schmit.According to the liner notes that accompanied their 2003 greatest hits CD, this song was written when Carrack and Schmit were planning to form a band during the late eighties or early nineties. This never materialized, so Schmit proposed the song for the Eagles' reunion album.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
The hell? Jim Capaldi? Weird. Dude was a monster in Traffic.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
his solo albums are...interesting.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
All I know is "Living on the Edge," which was a huge radio hit in, what, '83 or something. Actually, I knew that song before I knew he was the Traffic drummer. Not a bad song, though, and certainly better than this poo.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:10 (ten years ago) link
That little dripping water sound (temple blocks?)is fingernails on a chalkboard for me.
― Liquid Plejades, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
It's the biggest pet peeve I have in all of recorded music.
― pplains, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:13 (ten years ago) link
I went years refusing to listen to country music because of that shit. Kenny Rogers has a lot to answer for.
I had to turn this song off. I'm so disappointed in TBS after his stellar performance in I Can't Tell You Why.
I have a bad feeling that more than one couple have chosen this as a first dance song at their wedding.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
wow i had totally forgotten about this song
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
this song is a bad day in hell
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
i'm not even sure i knew this was the eagles, i think i might have thought it was a sole female artist
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
i think we've got another candidate for the next thread:
This extensive 40th Anniversary anthology, selected personally by Leo, features his catalogue of recorded material, including all of their original studio albums in mini-vinyl replica wallets, non-album tracks and B sides, together with a small selection of alternative mixes and rarities unearthed from the vaults, in this 166-track, 14CD box set. • The box set has also been personally designed by Leo and artworked by Simon Halfon. • The 32-page booklet includes a 4,000+ word liner note and track annotation by Leo. • The box set features all of Leo’s UK hits from 1973-1986, including the Transatlantic #1 single, ‘When I Need You’. • Leo is celebrating his 40th Anniversary since the release of his debut release ‘The Show Must Go On’.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Just-Box-Complete-Recordings-1971-2006/dp/B00FE9R226/ref=sr_1_3?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1382451567&sr=1-3&keywords=leo+sayer
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81z6T4H0ibL._SL1428_.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:33 (ten years ago) link
just a pox
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, it's not the "1971" part so much that worries me as it is the "2006" part.
― pplains, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:34 (ten years ago) link
Not really into Leo, but he wrote the best stuff on Daltrey's first solo record:http://youtu.be/TG_q_qUqupw
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:37 (ten years ago) link
P. Plains' very first 45's: "When I Need You" by Leo Sayer and "Disco Duck" by Rick Dees & His Cast of Idiots.
― pplains, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:40 (ten years ago) link
I don't feel so bad about my little boy being a huge fan of "Firework" by Katy Perry for this reason.
― pplains, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
Not as heavy as Daltrey, but I didn't realize Leo could belt (dressed as a clown, no less):http://youtu.be/6OEarewzmwI
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:46 (ten years ago) link
that's awesome! i had no idea he was british until today.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 17:58 (ten years ago) link
always thought bobby bloom should sue leo for stealing his hair AND his font.
http://www.audiophileusa.com/covers400water/28514.jpg
http://eil.com/images/main/Leo+Sayer+-+Silverbird+-+LP+RECORD-230091.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 18:09 (ten years ago) link
okay maybe not the same font, but still...
those seventies fright perms confuse me
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 18:12 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxCGd4UO7GU
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link
"Love Will Keep Us Alive": I don't I heard this 'til I got "The Very Best of..."; if area rock radio only reluctantly seized on "Get Over It", they wouldn't have touched this with a ten-foot poll. It actually sounds exactly like what you'd think the Eagles would sound like in '94: all Adult Contemporary and synthetic. "Get Over It" at least had the surprise factor of beer commercial-esque rockin' out.
This info already posted in different form, but Roach--that's Frey--speaks out:
LOVE WILL KEEP US ALIVEGLENN: There was a short time, while the band had broken up, that Timothy and Sharkey — that’s Felder — were trying to put together a group with Max Carl from Jack Mack And The Heart Attack, Jim Capaldi from Traffic, and Paul Carrack. The five of them were getting together, I believe, out at Felder’s house and doing demos, trying to write songs and sing and do different things. From those demo sessions came Paul Carrack singing “Love Will Keep Us Alive.”
I wonder what the Carrack version sounded like? He's one of those "could sing the phone books" voices for me.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
and by "sing the phone books" I mean both the yellow and white pages.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
here ya go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VusIipWjc90
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 19:11 (ten years ago) link
feat. Don "Sharkey" Felder and Max Carl from Jack Mack and the Heart Attack
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
kinda feel like paul carrack with two songs ("how long(has this been going on)" and "tempted") kinda trumps the majority of eagles catalog.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
confession: have always loved this - http://youtu.be/LJ4wa-432xQ
― balls, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
as long as you forgive Paul Carrack for "The Living Years."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:37 (ten years ago) link
bl0unt haha I don't even have to click on that link. I bet I know.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
That line 'When we're hungry, love will keep us alive' always makes me think of this
http://images.moviepostershop.com/alive-movie-poster-1992-1020190179.jpg
Anyway this song is just sooooooooooooo blah. It's like an audio version of a plate of all-white foods
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 01:53 (ten years ago) link
xposts Thanks Scott for the Carrack version. Better than the Eagles, with a nice bit of understatement.
The first Ace album (the one w/"How Long") eats the Eagles lunch.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 06:39 (ten years ago) link
"Girl From Yesterday"
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/GFreyPenthouse06.jpg
http://youtu.be/aaT54V16bCw
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
plane across the sea to some foreign land
― pplains, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
hey guys, persian gulf war was soooo three years ago.
― pplains, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
well, Frey helped popularize this sort of rock-countrypolitan fusion, so he's in his rights to cash in w/ the post-Garth Brooks world. Lyrically it's actually subtle for once: the guy could be off in Iraq, but he could be working through a long-distance break-up from the "Girl." Frey's trying too hard, but compared to most of the Eagles catalog, this is humanist.
― col, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link
I wore T-shirts and caps in that pattern in the early nineties. Remember Yaga and Stussi?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
there's a light in the window, she waits by the phone
every light is burning in the house across townshe's pacing by the telephone in her faded flannel gown
Damn, Glenn, I think Mr. Gaines got you on this one.
― pplains, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
Just what we need: a slower rewrite of "Lyin' Eyes" (for those who thought the pace of the original was far too frenetic), but with shittier production.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
I swear Glenn Frey has a set of cards that are like modular cliches you can rearrange and shuffle to suit your lyrical needs. These last two songs just totally fucking suck. I've been angry about "love will keep us alive" for a full day now. What a stupid and untrue message. When you're hungry, only food will keep you alive. Love will make dying feel better, but food will keep you alive. GOOD LORD I hate the Eagles.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
"All You Need Is Food"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
hate keeps me alive
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
I watched Jeremiah Johnson last night and it reminded me so much of Eagles. Redford's hair is perfect in the wilderness for years. He feels sorry for himself a lot and only survives because other people help him so much. He single-handedly defeats scores of Indians in hand to hand combat (I'm so sure...). He's a jerk to his squaw (Who ends up dead, of course). And the theme song sucks.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:24 (ten years ago) link
When you're hungry, only food will keep you alive. Love will make dying feel better, but food will keep you alive. GOOD LORD I hate the Eagles
HENLEY: Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention—-and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough food and women in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with eating. It's a sociopolitical statement. My only regret would be having to explain it in detail to you, which would defeat the purpose of using literary devices in songwriting and lower the discussion to some silly and irrelevant argument about food consumption. Also, Paul Carrack and the guy from Traffic wrote that shit.
― col, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
they are the worst
THE WORST
like a student who plagiarized a shitty paper and then criticizes the teacher's clothing and/or face for being ugly and distracting
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:51 (ten years ago) link
the verses seem like they are ripping off some gram parsons song but i can't get it
either way it's a pretty shitty burritos/gram type song...hear those corny synths in the background
man there aren't gonna be any odd gems from here on out
but this is 10X better than love will keep us alive
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
also:
Eagles Field Report: Heard "Dirty Laundry" on Jack FM on the way to work this morning. I have to admit I kinda love that song...the production is so weird and abrasive! Those weird robot people chanting "Kick em when they're up Kick em when they're down"....I gotta looks up who plays guitar on that...the guitar solo does some kinda weird almost atonal passages in points, like a studio pro way....almost reminds me of Vernon Reid
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:57 (ten years ago) link
huh!
Among the musicians on the record were Timothy B. Schmit and Joe Walsh, two of Henley's Eagles bandmates. Walsh performs the first guitar solo, followed by Steve Lukather of the band Toto; the guitar basic tracks are played by Danny Kortchmar who also helped Henley composing this song.[2] Jeff Porcaro (also of Toto) plays the drums on this track.
i was talking about the Lukather parts i think, i caught the song 2/3rds through
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
pretty sure it's Kootch or Lindley.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
wow
LL I don't like that you are enraged but I have to admit that I am enjoying your reaction to these terrible, terrible songs.
I listened to this most recent song this morning and I already forgot everything about it aside from not liking it.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Jeff Porcaro (also of Toto) plays the drums on this track
translation: everyone was coked to the fuckin' gills
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:20 (ten years ago) link
my friends just recorded an album at jeff pocaro's old house in LA...it's a studio called seedy underbelly now, which used to be in mpls but relocated.anyway, i guess there is a "coke room" where everything is mirrored fo' better snortin' action.
― M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:10 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
Steve Lukather played on Spinal Tap's Break Like The Wind, and Jeff Porcaro actually died in a bizarre gardening accident. It's all a rich tapestry.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:23 (ten years ago) link
Seward you are dead to me! Dead! Jeremiah Johnson fucking rules and has a completely awesome theme song. Of course everyone in it is a pig it's a John milius joint!
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 16:27 (ten years ago) link
i love john milius. JJ is not great sydney pollack though. there are a million better mountain wilderness movies. they catered to redford's vanity. if warren oates had played the part we would have seen a movie.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:22 (ten years ago) link
"The role of Jeremiah Johnson was originally to be played by Lee Marvin and then Clint Eastwood, with Sam Peckinpah attached to direct"
ah, the possibilities...
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:29 (ten years ago) link
"The Girl From Yesterday": Ugg, they're still on about/speaking for the simple-minded girls in 1994. At least she's not a cheater with 'the boy from tomorrow' as she most certainly would have been in the '70s. I guess this is where the Common Thread tribute album's influence rears it's head, as it's the most trad country thing they'd done since Leadon left. It's kind of forgotten know, but Common Thread was huge when it came out, setting the stage for the reunion.
(Sort of) In The Wild Report: I was checking out an area Karaoke bar's online catalog, and in addition to the expected Eagle hits, they have "Too Many Hands" and...wait for it..."CHUG...ALL...NIGHT"!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:35 (ten years ago) link
this movie is cool. and pretty. if you like mountain men:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUTkZ63dHiY
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
who doesn't like mountain men?!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:39 (ten years ago) link
Milius original draft is really supposed to be something (re: JJ)
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
there's something weirdly 80's about JJ. it's missing the 70's grit and getting the world ready for The Electric Horseman. i'm not a redford fan though. he's not a great actor (and he seems kinda dumb) but his hair looks good. kinda like brad pitt with the height of tom cruise.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
watching JJ made me wish there was a good dvd copy of heartland. i heart heartland. can watch it on youtube in installments though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C9rSjyd-T8
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 18:54 (ten years ago) link
would watch all these mountain men
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
Heartland kills me.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
The Dick Proenneke documentaries are the Frederick Wiseman of mountain men movies:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Proennekehttp://www.dickproenneke.comhttp://youtu.be/iYJKd0rkKss
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 23 October 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
ooh now you're talkini love wiseman!!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 23 October 2013 23:55 (ten years ago) link
It's always reminded me of Gram Parsons' version of Streets of Baltimore off of GP.
― funk79, Thursday, 24 October 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link
Yeah that's it
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 24 October 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link
"Learn To Be Still"
http://www.hotelcaliforniatab.com/web/wp-content/Eagles/hell-freezes-over-era-1994-1996/eagles1994apocalypse.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTWNBX2VmAo
― scott seward, Thursday, 24 October 2013 12:57 (ten years ago) link
there is no eagles version of this song on youtube. this is by a band called Laredo. not even a live version. maybe stan lynch trolls the internet for songs that he wrote.
― scott seward, Thursday, 24 October 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
there's a live Eagles version on Dailymotion:
http://dai.ly/xrg6n
― col, Thursday, 24 October 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link
Can't finished it. Getting through this song would be like eating a whole jar of mayonnaise.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 24 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
Sayin' I love you, is not the words I want to say...
― pplains, Thursday, 24 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
like eating a whole jar of mayonnaise.
You're right, he does sing a little like Tom Petty on this one.
Getting through this song would be like eating a whole jar of mayonnaise.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
I'm sure Long Run era Don Henley would've really delighted all with a song called "Learn to Be Still (You Fallen Debutante, You)"
― pplains, Thursday, 24 October 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 October 2013 13:32 (ten years ago) link
made it to the verse where Henley compares a woman "to a sheep without a shepherd/don't know how to be alone" and pulled the plug
― col, Thursday, 24 October 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
hey guys remember "witchy woman"? that was fun
― sheesh, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:18 (ten years ago) link
We were so innocent then.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m536/dandy_monkey/gifs/sigh.gif
― pplains, Thursday, 24 October 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
"Learn To Be Still": I watched the dailymotion version, and I can totally buy the Donster's opening remark about writing it an hour ago. Open up a notebook of scraps, verse 1 on page 12, verse two dumped on the back cover under a coffee stain, third next to that hot yoga instructor's phone # on page three... Who'd a thunk "Get Over It" would be the standout in this collection of tracks?
We're doing "Hole In The World" tomorrow, right? Followed by all 20 tracks of Long Road?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 October 2013 02:33 (ten years ago) link
sure.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 October 2013 02:44 (ten years ago) link
New kid in town on old bar jukeboxbass drowning out the harmonies lol
― buzza, Friday, 25 October 2013 04:40 (ten years ago) link
Meisner's Revenge
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 October 2013 04:58 (ten years ago) link
"Hole In The World"
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61mb6fIAnsL.jpg
http://vimeo.com/33989886
― scott seward, Friday, 25 October 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
hole in my brian more like
Writing a 9-11 song that uses their undepleted cache of bitterness and spite is a talent, I must say.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link
its like some strange competition with themselves to see if they can come up with a WORSE song than the one before it. forever.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 October 2013 12:45 (ten years ago) link
lol @ Henley credited with "drums."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 12:46 (ten years ago) link
wow, this is dreadful, esp Henley's grunting, whinnying vocal "improvs" towards the end. Key change midway through really seems to push him into an uncomfortable place. You can tell he was pleased with rhyming "anointed" and "disappointed" tho
― col, Friday, 25 October 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link
DON: I tell ya, I was mighty pleased I got to rhyme "anointed" and "disappointed," and especially proud that it fit the mood of autumnal despair.
GLENN: You got your SAT chops in.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 12:58 (ten years ago) link
more like "Sunday Times crossword chops"
― col, Friday, 25 October 2013 12:59 (ten years ago) link
is the basic track on this a Casio preset? eagles: chillwave pioneers
wow this is fuckin bad
i apologize to all those eagles songs from the 70s that i said were shitty
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2013 13:04 (ten years ago) link
this is beyond bad. just soooooooooooo terrible. jesus, joe walsh do you really need money that bad!!!!???? don't you have enough?
― scott seward, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:27 (ten years ago) link
Kinda broke my heart to see him harmonizing with them at the beginning.
― pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
Jesus fuck, how long is this fucking song?
I wish the Eagles had never been born.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 25 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
I woke up this morning with "I Can't Tell You Why" stuck in my head on a constant loop that occasionally morphs into "The Long Run" (more specifically, the part where the rest of the Eagles sing "strong one") They are inside my brain, the end must be near?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 25 October 2013 13:41 (ten years ago) link
Also kinda feel like I owe Alan Jackson an apology.
― pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:45 (ten years ago) link
i made it 1:32 into this song, and the last 30 sec was only because i briefly pretended that they were a group of small town cops who caught the music bug
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 25 October 2013 13:48 (ten years ago) link
The Jackson song is great!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 13:52 (ten years ago) link
haha.
Bernie and Joe would make for good cops in their current modes.
― pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
this is an antidote. i swear this song will make you feel better. one of my favorite bands and one of the best southern rock bands ever:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UYWqBwFtYw
― scott seward, Friday, 25 October 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
genuine lol at ll
― balls, Friday, 25 October 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
this is an Eagles song I cannot bear to ever hear again.
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 October 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
see, before this thread i would have said it sullied their legacy but now i know different.
― scott seward, Friday, 25 October 2013 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Again with the drawn-out coda! It's kind of catchy, they clearly knew what they wanted. But no.
"Delivery Boy" in American Hot Wax (1978):
HOLE IN THE WORLDGLENN: We were supposed to start our record. We loaded in on Monday, September 10, to start the Eagles studio album in earnest. All the equipment was put in the day before, and we were supposed to go to the studio on the morning of 9/11, but after hearing the news we called each other up and said, “What’s the point? I don’t think there’s anything worth showing up for today.” So we stayed home. And then that night Don started “Hole in the World.”DON: On September 10, 2001, my bandmates and I were still feeling elated from the successful tour of Europe we had completed in August. We had traveled all over the continent and made first-ever appearances in Russia, Finland, and Italy. It had been a memorable, satisfying experience. We were back in L.A. and preparing to record. Then, on the morning of September 11, the phone rang and it was my assistant, who said, “You’d better turn on the TV.” That evening, our recording session having been cancelled, I sat down at the piano in my home studio and started putting some chords with the phrase “hole in the world.” Just sort of wrote the refrain in one sitting. After that, the first verse came fairly quickly and then I was stuck. Months went by, but I didn’t show it to anybody. Then, other things started happening that gave additional meanings to “Hole In The World,” particularly after the [Iraqi] war started. The fighting was supposedly over in May, and yet one or two or three of our boys were — and still are — getting killed every day, which means somebody’s daddy is not coming home. So that’s another “hole” — a huge hole in somebody’s life — a child, a wife, a mother, a father, a brother, a sister. There are holes in the information that the public is getting, both from the media and the government. There are holes in what passes for the logic of this administration’s foreign policy. The stars and stripes may be flying and the drums beating, but things are never going to be the same for some people. The ill-conceived attempt to “avenge” the victims of September 11 has only brought more misery and sorrow. Things in today’s world are not so black-and-white, so clear-cut. This is not a John Wayne movie. This is the 21st century. It’s complex, and people have forgotten about our history — if they ever really knew it in the first place.So I took my unfinished piece to the studio and showed it to Glenn, and he eventually wrote the second verse. We started a third verse and then scrapped it in favor of simplicity. I originally envisioned it as a very short song, anyway, like those little snippets the Beatles used to do that only lasted for about a minute, but it turned out to be a little longer than that.GLENN: Talk about a record that you know is the Eagles: “Hi, we’re in charge again.” These would be the compelling perfect vocals, and of course let’s just start with Don’s opening lines of the song, which I think are brilliant — “They say that anger is just love disappointed.” It’s all there. The big chorus, the ooohs under the verse…. It’s a classic Eagles record, I’m telling you.
DON: On September 10, 2001, my bandmates and I were still feeling elated from the successful tour of Europe we had completed in August. We had traveled all over the continent and made first-ever appearances in Russia, Finland, and Italy. It had been a memorable, satisfying experience. We were back in L.A. and preparing to record. Then, on the morning of September 11, the phone rang and it was my assistant, who said, “You’d better turn on the TV.” That evening, our recording session having been cancelled, I sat down at the piano in my home studio and started putting some chords with the phrase “hole in the world.” Just sort of wrote the refrain in one sitting. After that, the first verse came fairly quickly and then I was stuck. Months went by, but I didn’t show it to anybody. Then, other things started happening that gave additional meanings to “Hole In The World,” particularly after the [Iraqi] war started. The fighting was supposedly over in May, and yet one or two or three of our boys were — and still are — getting killed every day, which means somebody’s daddy is not coming home. So that’s another “hole” — a huge hole in somebody’s life — a child, a wife, a mother, a father, a brother, a sister. There are holes in the information that the public is getting, both from the media and the government. There are holes in what passes for the logic of this administration’s foreign policy. The stars and stripes may be flying and the drums beating, but things are never going to be the same for some people. The ill-conceived attempt to “avenge” the victims of September 11 has only brought more misery and sorrow. Things in today’s world are not so black-and-white, so clear-cut. This is not a John Wayne movie. This is the 21st century. It’s complex, and people have forgotten about our history — if they ever really knew it in the first place.
So I took my unfinished piece to the studio and showed it to Glenn, and he eventually wrote the second verse. We started a third verse and then scrapped it in favor of simplicity. I originally envisioned it as a very short song, anyway, like those little snippets the Beatles used to do that only lasted for about a minute, but it turned out to be a little longer than that.
GLENN: Talk about a record that you know is the Eagles: “Hi, we’re in charge again.” These would be the compelling perfect vocals, and of course let’s just start with Don’s opening lines of the song, which I think are brilliant — “They say that anger is just love disappointed.” It’s all there. The big chorus, the ooohs under the verse…. It’s a classic Eagles record, I’m telling you.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 October 2013 18:01 (ten years ago) link
he's telling us!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 18:03 (ten years ago) link
xpost--and with the long interview now over, our heroes felt up some stewardesses at Skybar.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 25 October 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
DON: Really, I just spent that year, 18 months, thinking of different metaphors for holes.
GLENN: And even after all that, we left out two or three.
― pplains, Friday, 25 October 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
Talk about a record that you know is the Eagles: “Hi, we’re in charge again.”
tell me about it. everyone else in 2003 just ran for cover when this monster was released.
― col, Friday, 25 October 2013 18:40 (ten years ago) link
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
"Our mournful, elegiac song dedicated to those we lost on 9/11 WILL FUCKING BLOW YOU OUT OF THE WATER!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
to give you an idea of their arrogance, they opened the 2003 show I had to review with this baby.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
For real?? Wtf
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
I remember the chorus; I was still in line buying an $18 gin and tonic.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
Okay WTf at $18 gin and tonic. Especially because I know it was watered down swill in a shitty little plastic cup.
― carl agatha, Friday, 25 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
watered down swill in a shitty little plastic cup.
Nicely sums up the Eagles.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Watered-down swill in a shitty little plastic cup -- two of them -- to endure a four-hour show with two encores (I left before the last one).
My editor at the time said the next day, "Wow. Why'd you go if you hate them so much?"
"Revenge."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:10 (ten years ago) link
"And why are you so angry at Eagles, Soto?"
"Love disappointed."
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
It's in the Miami Herald in the summer of 2003; I'd post it if I could.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 October 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
"No More Walks In The Wood"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesGADublin09-03.jpg
https://myspace.com/eaglesonlinecentral/video/eagles-no-more-walks-in-the-wood-long-road-out-of-eden-/31334792
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 11:45 (ten years ago) link
yes i had to go to myspace to find this song...
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link
no more walks in the wood cuz there's a hole in the world so GET OVER IT
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2013 11:48 (ten years ago) link
oh dear. poor John Hollander: I didn't know that Henley had "covered" him.
original poem: http://www.ct.gov/cct/cwp/view.asp?a=2162&q=329214. The Eagles replace its tight, driving rhythms with mush-mouth draggy melodies and ignore its wordplay (see how they just clunk through the "gone for good, and you, for ill"). Sadly, this has probably been used in a few high school English classes to torture students.
― col, Saturday, 26 October 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link
man, we are really gonna drag to the finish line with this. yeesh....
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
First Eagles album with solo Frey credits!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
this was the album they only sold through Wal-Mart, right? Which is a perfect partnership for 'em
― col, Saturday, 26 October 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
so their entire catalog is on spotify except for this album. THIS is the one they're withholding from downloaders??? i'll be sure to run right out to wal-mart and buy it right now.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link
i think THEY must have the rights to this album or something? that would explain why i its hard to find? private property of eagles/walmart.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:31 (ten years ago) link
they have enough rights to their entire catalog that they were able to withhold all streaming rights until very recently. and then, with much fanfare, they made everything available except the walmart album. so maybe wal-mart is the one aggressively keeping it off the internet?
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
the first humane move of Wal-Mart's existence imo
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:45 (ten years ago) link
"hey, looking for the Eagles' "Long Road Out of Eden": said no one on a file-sharing site ever
― col, Saturday, 26 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
Bet you could find plenty of "How Long" by the Eagles on a file-server. They'd all feature Paul Carrack singing about how he's not quite as dumb as he seems, but they'd be in there.
― pplains, Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
I think most people that bought this album think file-sharing involves manila folders and the post office.
"No More Walks In The Wood"--Man, they really Protooled the shit out of those harmonies. CSN(Y) used to do stuff like this just standing around a mike going direct to tape. This shall be a long road indeed...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
it'll be a long friggin' road if i end up having to search for these damn songs on abandoned geocities fansites.
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
i'll have to start using a more reliable search engine for this kind of thing.
http://www.dogpile.com/
― scott seward, Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
eaglespile.com
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
For some reason, the myspace page isn't opening for me.
So it's basically, "Dammit, I can't open this jar of sun-dried, urnine-soaked phlegm clumps!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 26 October 2013 19:50 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 October 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
Ermine-swaddled phlegm clumps
― Admin is dead, e/t is permitted (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 26 October 2013 21:25 (ten years ago) link
"How Long"
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/GFreyPB2008-08.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHBqpyUmCP4
― scott seward, Sunday, 27 October 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
Ugh golf Glenn.
― carl agatha, Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
karaoke version of their old sound, as if intended for someone listening to the radio to think it's "Already Gone" for a minute before realizing their mistake. Gets ugly when Henley comes in on the 2nd verse. 18 more of these to go?
― col, Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
I feel guilty for not helping drag this dead horse across the finish line, so I made myself listen to this one
This is ... not entirely awful! I see it went to 23 on the US country charts, I'm sure it fit right in
KInd of peppy, appropriate use of Eagles Vocal Harmonies™ ... only 3:16 but "good night, baby, rock yourself to sleep" still quite apt
― Brad C., Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
At least the production is better than the '94 stuff. But that's not saying much. In fact, it's saying absolutely nothing.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 27 October 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
FYI This was a JD Souther song from '72: http://youtu.be/AlMURk9RsU4 (I think that's Roach & the boys on harmony, who also used to smoke it live: http://youtu.be/fkmj1INRCok)
As for the new version, it's a nice little romp, and probably better than a lot of what surrounded it on 2007 Country radio. Once again not digging the Protooled harmonies.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 October 2013 02:20 (ten years ago) link
In the wild:The H is O at this diner...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 October 2013 07:25 (ten years ago) link
...and now there's a Heartache Tonight!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 October 2013 07:29 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, October 28, 2013 7:25 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Brain: the Henley is... out?
I figured it out though.
― carl agatha, Monday, 28 October 2013 08:45 (ten years ago) link
probably overdue - http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/540b145e5d/the-h-is-o-a-short-by-adam-mckay-from-adam-ghost-panther-mckay-will-ferrell-jimmy-fallon-and-ben-stiller
― balls, Monday, 28 October 2013 10:30 (ten years ago) link
"Busy Being Fabulous"
http://www.joewalshonline.com/images/JWalshMarjorieCandid.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uht1Jy1x2hA
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
r.i.p. lou reed.
― scott seward, Monday, 28 October 2013 13:39 (ten years ago) link
"Available Exclusively at Wal-Mart" is all you really need to know about this album. Thus far it sounds exactly as i'd expect a Walmart-only album to sound (like a '70s Eagles album with the hits removed.) Scanning the tracklist, I don't recognise any of the song titles, yet this opened at #1. I must be out of the pop music scene or something....u
― Lee626, Monday, 28 October 2013 13:53 (ten years ago) link
with Lou's death, I really don't have the heart to listen to today's bilge, especially as it's yet another Henley song about a bitch who's done him wrong. Henley and Frey will live to be 100 years old.
― col, Monday, 28 October 2013 13:55 (ten years ago) link
i listened to it, and if i had to apply the lou reed filter, i'd say i did it because i wanted to really feel the hate for don henley. and it worked! i was ready to just dismiss it as complete garbage but dang this song is offensive love the video "my first music video"
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 13:56 (ten years ago) link
I interrupted listening to Berlin for this? By far, the worst decision I've ever made in my life.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:04 (ten years ago) link
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/01/31/article-0-1187154E000005DC-12_634x380.jpg
So Joe Walsh is Ringo Starr's brother-in-law.
I knew Joe had been a member of the All-Starr Band, but this, I wasn't aware of.
Haven't listened to today's song yet. YouTube wanted me to sit through a 30-second spot for Acura, and I just couldn't do it.
Also ham radio recordings of Joe on his wikipedia page.
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
I've fallen behind on my listening so I just listened to everything from Learn to Be Still forward.
They are all terrible songs. I think How Long could be redeemed if it could be purged of the Walmartness of it and maybe change some of the stupid, stupid lyrics. Don does some vocal freestyling at the end of Hole in the World that is just repulsive, also did you look at the video? Look at their stupid faces in the video while they sing that song. They look like a sketch comedy troupe pretending to be a washed up shitty band singing some late-career self-important treacly mess of a song. Also that song is over four minutes long because by now, the entire band is made up of nothing but contempt for their remaining fans. Busy Being Fabulous is execrable. I couldn't get through the live version of Learn to Be Still. I could barely get through the 5 seconds of stage banter before they started playing. God I hate the Eagles.
― carl agatha, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
And that's Paul McCartney's son, right? Have you ever in your life gone out on the town with the assistant sales manager your dad used to work with and that guy's brother-in-law? Maybe Sean won't return his calls.
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
i was wondering who the owl faced kid is! he looks miserable.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
We can't all be "the cute one."
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
hahawhat a strange life it must be to be son of the cute one. like eric stoltz in son of the fly.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
http://theselvedgeyard.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/pn004963.jpg
"A teenaged prostitute? Your drummer can't get by on his looks alone like me?"
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
Lee626, not only did it debut at #1, it was the third best-selling record of 2007 and is 7x platinum.
Granted, it's a double album so 7x Platinum means 3.5 million shipped/sold, but still pretty shocking.
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
7x Platinum means 3.5 million shipped/sold
if 3.4 million copies of that double album were sitting in the basement of a walmart warehouse, it would still get to be 7x platinum.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
But in the SoundScan era, do labels still claim shipped=sold?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
last time i checked, and i admit it's been a minute, the riaa's gold and platinum awards were completely unconnected to soundscan.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
ok just checked. still unconnected.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 28 October 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
I wish that 3.4 million copies were languishing in Wal-Mart warehouses across this great nation. But chillingly, 2.6 million copies of this album were sold to paying customers the last 2 months of 2007 alone.
My guess is that, by now, well over 3 million copies of this album have actually been intentionally purchased.
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:00 (ten years ago) link
citation on that 2.6 million number: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best-selling_albums_in_the_United_States_since_Nielsen_SoundScan_tracking_began#2007.5B6.5D
take that, daughtry (and your mere 2.5 million)!
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:09 (ten years ago) link
Don't cry for Daughtry. That 2.5 million figure is only for 2007. The album moved almost 5 million copies, eventually outselling our thread's heroes.
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
"Busy Being Fabulous": Rather than dwell on on the inherent misogyny in this song, I'd rather focus on how hilarious it is that Mr. Donster McSeriousPants is still writing songs about bimbos ditching his sorry ass. I could probably c'n'p my prior comments about the harmonies from here on out. This was fairly big on Country radio too, no?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: in the end, daughtry sold more albums, but we, um, well, you know...
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
It wouldn't surprise me if LRTE really did sell millions. Wal-Mart customers are their demographic.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
I actually got a little knee jerk insulted on behalf of Walmart customers! I'm not even kidding!
― carl agatha, Monday, 28 October 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
Meanwhile, I thought to myself that people who would buy an Eagles CD at Walmart get what they deserve, just like ppl who voted for Rand Paul, whose poodly topknot indicates some affiliation with Don & the gang.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:00 (ten years ago) link
I don't think it's a demographic so much as, "Lessee, got detergent...Liquid Plumber...new bath mat...oh, huh, new Eagles for $10? Sure, what the hell."
In other words, the Eagles knew that no one, anywhere, ever would make a special trip to a store to buy their new record; the only purchasers would be those who were stocking up on dog food and socks at the time.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
who wouldn't stock up on dog food and socks? People get hungry and cold.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
Maybe the Eagles CD is for the dog.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
...the dog they got after they got rid of Randy Meisner
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
Also, Long Road Out of Eden was a holiday season release, and what the hell else are you going to get the uncle/cousin/sibling you rarely see or think about?
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
Exactly. The Eagles correctly reasoned that only those already in Wal-Mart buying staples would impulse-buy their record on a whim/at the checkout.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
i also like to think there was a sticker on the cd that said "not INCLUDING TAKE IT EASY AND HOTEL CALIFORNIA," with the "not" in 2-pt type and everything else in 36-pt type.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
I like the idea of your average shopper hate-buying the record as a last-minute gift for someone they dislike.
― carl agatha, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
I plan to do this for several ILXers.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
Alas, they were truthful, and included today's song as one of the selling points:
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0166/1048/products/eagles_eden_1_1024x1024.jpg?0
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
good price, though
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
Not sure what kind of message they're trying to send with cheap record prices and batshit ticket prices.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
grandpa's birthday is just around the corner
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
They were going hard after the Kate Bush Aerial demographic with that sleeve
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:35 (ten years ago) link
Back cover's pretty sweet too:
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0166/1048/products/eagles_eden_2_1024x1024.jpg?0
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:37 (ten years ago) link
10:15, the horror
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link
Oh no there are a lot more songs left on this album.
― carl agatha, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
oh shit didn't notice that. I was too busy getting worried about having to listen to a song called "I Love To Watch a Woman Dance."
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 20:40 (ten years ago) link
I think I am going insane because I just spent 20 minutes writing this.
Grandpa Receives Eagles CD for his 60th birthday
A Barberton, OH man has received the latest recording by the 1970s legends of excess, The Eagles, from his 4 year old granddaughter. He received the CD at a family gathering held at his favorite restaurant, Applebee's. Other restaurant patrons recalled the silver-haired father of two (grandfather of 4) as he drank a few too many Jack and Cokes. "He was getting louder and louder, and I thought he might vomit," said one concerned patron. Another patron sitting at a nearby table claims that Grandpa was beginning to lose his temper with one of the waitresses after she asked him politely not to touch her. His daughter Amy tried to distract him by handing him a gift. The retired accountant laughed as he opened the gift from his granddaughter Kayleigh, who was his daughter's baby. Kayleigh was 4, but she was the well-liked youngest child and always referred to as "the baby" by her extended family. After opening Kayleigh's gift, a CD by grandpa's favorite band The Eagles, Grandpa beamed and thanked his "little Kayleighbear" for her thoughtful gift and began to "tell stories about the old days, just like he always does", laughed Amy. To date, Grandpa has not opened the CD because he doesn't know how to operate a CD player, but he continues to appreciate the thoughtfulness of the gift.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
would make beautiful liner notes if they ever do a follow-up
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:22 (ten years ago) link
thank god they'll be occupied with this tour until 2015
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:24 (ten years ago) link
Which means a new album at Wal Mart in 2020.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 October 2013 21:39 (ten years ago) link
When you drive from Little Rock to Chicago, there's this section of the route with no interstate. You basically spend hours in the foothills of the Ozarks going up and down hills, crossing unlit railroad tracks and keeping an eye on the 55 MPH speed limit.
Finally, you come out on Interstate 55 which leads up into the Missouri Bootheel and the New Madrid fault line. You turn right at I-57, cross the Mississippi, barely skirt Kentucky and enter Illinois, which is at least the state in which Chicago is located. Home free, finally.
Except just a mile or so after the Cairo exit, you see the sign that says "Chicago . . . . . . . 371". You can make the trip dozens of times and on each one, you'll feel just plain ol' deflated when you calculate how far you still have to go.
Anyway. That's how I felt when I saw this morning that not only do we still have at least two weeks of this catalog left, but one track is ten minutes and fifteen seconds long. :-(
― pplains, Monday, 28 October 2013 21:56 (ten years ago) link
<i>I like the idea of your average shopper hate-buying the record as a last-minute gift for someone they dislike.</i>
I think this accounts for 20% of its sales. Harried shopper, two weeks before Christmas, ticking off the gifts she's bought while in line at the cash register, realizes she's forgotten to buy for her sister's stupid boyfriend. Sees "Long Road Out of Eden" in a display box. "I think that schmuck likes the Eagles. Is this a live album? Only $12? Fuck it." In the cart it goes.
― col, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
Joe talks ham radio and morse code in this show: http://youtu.be/0vyjXClQnLs
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:15 (ten years ago) link
"I think that schmuck likes the Eagles. Is this a live album? Only $12? Fuck it." In the cart it goes.
this is amy buying the gift for her dadcan't you see?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 28 October 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
According to wikipedia, the video for "Busy Being Fabulous" features the Eagles performing at a party AND playing the roles of different individuals at the party (waiter, bartender, etc.)
More from wikipedia:
Joe Walsh plays "both a policeman and a security guard (the cop and the guard are actually the same man). His sidekick for both roles is a monkey. At one point in the video, the monkey steals a wallet from a drunken party guest and gives it to Walsh."
― intheblanks, Monday, 28 October 2013 23:43 (ten years ago) link
Not technically an "Eagles in the wild," but this morning I heard the Steve Miller Band's "Rock'n Me" and immediately started singing, "Well, I'm a-runnin' down the road, tryin' to loosen my load..." Same meter! And almost the same melody! It totally works!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 00:48 (ten years ago) link
a bunch of dudes were CRANKING 'The Long Run' yesterday at the Raiders tailgate. :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:47 (ten years ago) link
in answer to a facebook question from alfred, kinda thinking about turning this whole bloody nightmare into an EMP conference proposal. its such an easy target but i'm old and i can only really reach the easy targets. i promise i wouldn't mention any of you by name if i ended up writing something.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 03:03 (ten years ago) link
awesome!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 03:09 (ten years ago) link
the song about walking in the woods sucks
"how long" was actually pretty good i thought! def an old school country rock eagles type thing. could see why it made the charts at least.
too busy being fabulous made me vom thinking that lou just died and wtf am i doing listening to this shit?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 04:25 (ten years ago) link
Would loved to have heard a Lou song called "Busy Being Fabulous" tbh.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 05:15 (ten years ago) link
"What Do I Do With My Heart"
http://www.eaglesonlinecentral.com/images/eaglesGADublin09-04.jpg
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xbrzs3_eagles-what-do-i-do-with-my-heart_music
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link
"now you tell me that you've found someBODYsomeone who loves you BETTERno one could ever love youthe way I DOOOOooooOOOO"
jesus, weren't these guys professional songwriters once? Try to make it to the verse where Henley takes the lead and Frey delivers some of the lamest "ad libs" ever recorded (H: "Stiiiill missing you" F: "whoa!").
― col, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link
its so bad.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:15 (ten years ago) link
I got as far as 2:47. Can I turn it off?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
if someone ever brought a song like that to richard marx he'd stomp their head into the floor and kill their whole family and shove the sheet music into their hollowed out skull and leave the burning skull on his doorstop on a post as a warning to other songwriters to never ever bring him a song that lame ever again.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
doorstep that is. and don't think he wouldn't do it either. the man has standards. and he's one sick bastard.
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/HMaV0O.410suuPmpXyQCGA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NQ--/http://media.zenfs.com/en-SG/blogs/ept_prod/marx.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
well, that's the thing: Richard Marx wrote at least six of these before his jog around the lake this morning. By the standards of professional anonymous songwriting, this song is dismal.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:22 (ten years ago) link
backing track sounds like another Casio preset, with Walsh playing a line over it while watching "Regis and Kelly"
― col, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:25 (ten years ago) link
prob. not even Walsh--more likely the hired gun they got post-Felder
― col, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, October 28, 2013 9:47 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Pretty optimistic for Raider Nation.
― pplains, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
Were any Eagles songs identified as being used for sleep deprivation in Abu Ghraib? I'll bet it was this one...
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 22:07 (ten years ago) link
with a better arrangement, this would be perfectly acceptable as a lesser album track on a lesser '90s album by a minor nashville singer with one or two adult contemporary hits. bring in diane warren for some song doctoring and maybe even trisha yearwood's people would think about returning your calls. i mean, they wouldn't, but there's a chance they'd at least think about it.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 23:22 (ten years ago) link
Try to make it to the verse where Henley takes the lead and Frey delivers some of the lamest "ad libs" ever recorded (H: "Stiiiill missing you" F: "whoa!").
it would've been kinda awesome, though, if it went like this instead:
H: "Stiiiill missing you" F: "well, yeah."
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 23:29 (ten years ago) link
Eagle in the wild... "New York Minute" on the background music at the local Home Depot.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 01:51 (ten years ago) link
At the beginning of this song I thought skot could only find the karaoke backing track version
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 02:53 (ten years ago) link
^^Me too! This sounds like something Frey & Henley cooked up as a pitch to the Backstreet Boys or somebody so they could prove to their daughters they were still 'cool' and 'with it'. Reminds me of "Show Me The Meaning of Being Lonely" (which in turn sounds like a Henley title come to think of it).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 03:50 (ten years ago) link
nah Henley-Frey would write "I'll Show You The Meaning (Of Being Lonely)."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 10:59 (ten years ago) link
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
"Guilty Of The Crime"
http://www.joewalshonline.com/images/eaglesRS2008.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=274FGKogHHM
― scott seward, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
Ricky Gervais looking thinner in his boy scout shirt, but when did Russell Brand shave the beard?
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
Cripes, Walsh really needs to play with a drummer other than Henley.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
(Answer to that last one: When she released California Girls...)
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:16 (ten years ago) link
Henley going for a Franco-Prussian War general look.
"Guilty of the Crime": this is C-rate tired rock and roll but at least it sounds somewhat alive (the pianist seems to have a few cups of coffee before the session), and Walsh's voice is a relief after all of these Henley/Frey slogs. Agree leadfoot Henley behind the kit doesn't help matters.
― col, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
happy birthday Timothy B. Schmit, have an excellent one
― Brad C., Wednesday, 30 October 2013 18:08 (ten years ago) link
"Guilty of The Crime": I liked the ending on this, as Walsh's phrasing gets a little looser...the whole thing could have been better a little looser.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 23:53 (ten years ago) link
I take back what I said earlier about Long Road Out of Eden sounding like a compilation of their '70s non-hit album fillers. It's not up to that lofty level....
― Lee626, Thursday, 31 October 2013 10:10 (ten years ago) link
"I Don't Want To Hear Anymore"
http://www.timothybschmitonline.com/images/TSchmitLROOETB02.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR5CEnFzdkw
― scott seward, Thursday, 31 October 2013 13:24 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 13:26 (ten years ago) link
these are rough final days.
― scott seward, Thursday, 31 October 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
written by Paul Carrack.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 13:28 (ten years ago) link
There isn't a single surprising lick, down beat, or melody: a dude and his keyboard presets in a Duluth coffee bar.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
― carl agatha, Thursday, 31 October 2013 13:37 (ten years ago) link
It's not the first timeThat I've had the sense that something's wrong
got that right Schmit. he should've gotten jail time for cutting this vocal
― col, Thursday, 31 October 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 31, 2013 9:28 AM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
and also first recorded by him a few years earlier (with Schmit and Henley on backing vocals)
http://youtu.be/IkGAv21vrm4
― Lee626, Thursday, 31 October 2013 14:58 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:29 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
uh....not cool don't lump the beautiful haunted city of duluth into this.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 31 October 2013 15:29 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, Alfred. Comparing this song to Bob Dylan is really stretching it.
― pplains, Thursday, 31 October 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
a dude his keyboard presets in a Clearwater coffee bar.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
his keyboard presets in a positively fourth street coffee bar
You could make it clear that its a Duluth Georgia coffee bar
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 31 October 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
there you go
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
Sweetwater then.
― pplains, Thursday, 31 October 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
this is the uncoolest song i have ever heard.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
HENLEY: We're in our sixties. We don't chase after these false notions of cool, you know? We've done that. We've done everything. So when Tim gave us this beautiful Paul Carrack song we knew we'd found the perfect song for us.
FREY: A dirge that had no chance in hell of gettin' us publishing royalties.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
it sounds like a women's bathroom!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
it smells like a soapcake
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
Hearing this does make me want to quickly dry my hands and get back out to the Caribbean Stud table.
― pplains, Thursday, 31 October 2013 19:54 (ten years ago) link
steeling myself for a few days hence
"Fast Company" (Don Henley, Glenn Frey) – 4:00
― col, Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
but slow tempos
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 October 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
slow women, fast food
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 October 2013 21:59 (ten years ago) link
"I Don't Want To Hear Anymore"--Autotune, Protools, ugg ugg ugg....The dynamics of the song are ok Adult Contemporary circa 1989.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 November 2013 01:38 (ten years ago) link
"Autotune? In the seventies, man, we used to suck lemons to stay on pitch! That was our 'autotune'! And our 'inspiration' was cocaine!
Also, we were completely reprehensible human beings who should have been legally barred from access to recording equipment of any kind."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 1 November 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link
"Well, yeah."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 November 2013 03:58 (ten years ago) link
In the RS cover story for this tour/album, Walsh rants about how much technology was utilized in the studio: "We don't have to replace syllables, but we do!..."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 November 2013 04:00 (ten years ago) link
"Waiting In The Weeds"
http://www.donhenleyonline.com/images/DHenleyMilan09-04.jpg
http://youtu.be/s4GL4JmDKdY
― scott seward, Friday, 1 November 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
SEVEN minutes?!?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:20 (ten years ago) link
7:47!!
this sounds like a small town church song. i barely made it one minute.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:29 (ten years ago) link
Except for a middle eight in which they play with minor chord this is more one-old-dude-with-drum-machine sentimentality.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
And though I heard some wise man sayThat every dog will have his day,He never mentioned that these dog days get so long
wait, what? this is like attempted wit by someone unfamiliar with the concept
later on we get again "he doesn't love you like I do," natch. But it gets bizarrely comical midway through, when the woman's at the county fair (cue "calliope" preset) on a Ferris wheel, and Henley gets weirdly excited: "you're swingin' on the top!" Then he compares her new guy to an ice cream that's dripping on her dress.
― col, Friday, 1 November 2013 13:33 (ten years ago) link
DON: When I compare her new guy to an ice ream that's dripping on her dress, it's called a metaphor.
GLENN: I call it premature ejaculation.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
i failed to say that the ice cream was a masterful bit of wordplay after the guy was called "the flavor of the month"
― col, Friday, 1 November 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
man i love this thread, i hate that i've been too insanely busy the last couple months to actively follow it or post on it much at all. we're gonna go straight into the Henley solo albums after this, right?
― Ned Ratchet (some dude), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
I'd love to.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:44 (ten years ago) link
you have succeeded in isolating yet more pure unholy lameness from don henley. he sat down and wrote that? uuuuuuuugggggghhhhhhh.is he surrounded by sycophants?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:50 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:54 (ten years ago) link
haaaa
i wonder what their conversations are like. i also wonder who knows him best and continues to like him genuinely? anyone? real q - is being surrounded by sycophants the status quo for men of his...level of entitlement?
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
don't know if dreck like this song is as much owed to sycophants as it's everyone just not giving a shit to bother. By this point, the Eagles aren't a band: they're a collection of wealthy guys (well, except maybe Schmit) affiliated to get wealthier, and so it's all about just getting the songs on tape. Henley could make crow noises on a track and everyone else would be like "ok, there's another 5 minutes done."
― col, Friday, 1 November 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
Man, look at Henley go full Bonham/Moon up there in that picture. What a badass.
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Friday, 1 November 2013 14:29 (ten years ago) link
so he knows he is doing a shitty job, is that what you're saying? crow noises would be way more interesting than this. he still tries to pretend that he sounds sincere when he's singing, so...is everyone just aware that he is phoning it in from a tin can/string?
also, lol he looks like an executive who got too drunk and commandeered the drum set of the band his assistant hired for the company party. there goes don again!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
"there goes don again!"
― carl agatha, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
lmao
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
honestly i think the chorus to the song (at least the melody of it and the chord changes) is probably about the best thing i've heard on this album so far
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
ok lol at the flavor of the month dripping on your dress part, love how they purposefully do "beatles" backing keyboards on that
"i've been stumbling through some dark places" - us too, don...us too
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:36 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L0BK3ydL2w
live at madison square garden even more emotional don
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
goddamn it i'm sorry i thought i did that right
though at this time we're all so beaten down by the eagles do we even care about youtube embeds? we didn't ask to be born
man this is long
in general....is there ANY eagles song that you couldn't safely lop a minute and a half off of?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
yeah i don't care about embeds anymore. this thread should have probably been unreadable all along.
― scott seward, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:44 (ten years ago) link
i don't think i know how to embed youtube videos anymore though.
― scott seward, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
used to be that the url would work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjSOj8b804U
― scott seward, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
but not anymore.
we didn't ask to be born
Okay y'all are delivering the LOLs today. And I have the Eagles to thank for that. THINK ABOUT IT.
― carl agatha, Friday, 1 November 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
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i loled at thisthe eagles have sapped our brains of their power and converted it to goldthey are brain plundering alchemists
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 1 November 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
the fact there's still another disc & 1/2 to go is just vicious cruelty
― col, Friday, 1 November 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
"Waiting In The Weeds": I'm with ums, the chorus on this is very finely crafted, and it would be better showcased in a shorter song. Also: I can't be the only one weirded out by Henley's Dorian Gray vocals on this album? It sounds like he's phoning it in from sometime before their debut.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 1 November 2013 19:16 (ten years ago) link
he's singing from the Sad Cafe
― col, Friday, 1 November 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
"No More Cloudy Days"
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ozeagle/Frey%20Videos/Shadow8.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baAQj0E4sdE
― scott seward, Saturday, 2 November 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link
solo songwriting credit!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 November 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/songbirdreleased/Eagles%20etc/tumblr_miwv9zCRw91r04bgzo1_r1_250-1_zpsd8ee7b02.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/songbirdreleased/Eagles%20etc/tumblr_miwv9zCRw91r04bgzo2_250_zps16afa2e3.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/songbirdreleased/Eagles%20etc/tumblr_miwv9zCRw91r04bgzo3_250_zpsc80e4b51.gifhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v199/songbirdreleased/Eagles%20etc/tumblr_miwv9zCRw91r04bgzo4_250_zps59469da1.gif
― scott seward, Saturday, 2 November 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link
This is by far the best of the LROOE songs we've heard, but it's still generic.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 November 2013 11:50 (ten years ago) link
yeah not too bad (well, until the sax solo) and the chorus is actually memorable. Lyric seems to have been composed of cut-up greeting cards, but hey, by the standards of this album so far, it's grade A. Congrats, Glenn Frey: after 40 years, you've written a sorta-okay song by yrself!
― col, Saturday, 2 November 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link
I take it we're all at home listening to....
EAGLES' STUDIO ALBUMS VINYL BOX SET FOR RELEASE 29th Octoberu1972-1979 Limited Edition Boxed Set Features Six 180-Gram LPshttp://www.rhino.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/EAGLES_Vinyl_Box.jpgStill not sure you want it?
the sleeve of the debut album, EAGLES, will finally be released as the band originally intended, with no glue flaps
― Lee626, Saturday, 2 November 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
eagles in the wild: "hotel california" on the instore sound system while hanging at the tonic & juice bar at erewhon in los angeles, which is basically LA multiplied by LA raised to the power of LA.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Saturday, 2 November 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
a cosmic injustice finally rectified
― col, Saturday, 2 November 2013 16:59 (ten years ago) link
Saw a Halloween concert in the parking lot of a local market and while it was an original, the song the band played after their cover of Van Morrison's "Wild Night" was nearly a carbon copy of "Witchy Woman". Without a doubt the Eagles song was performed at some point during the day.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 2 November 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
"No More Cloudy Days": Has a nice 80s AC vibe (down to the outro sax). Henley should use brushes more often. Listening to this, I'm picturing an older couple linking hands from their separate outdoor bathtubs as I also hear a warning to seek medical help if your erection last more than four hours...
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
Well.
So much for the cloud imagery.
― pplains, Saturday, 2 November 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 November 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
"Fast Company"
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2011/11/Don-Henley.jpg
http://vbox7.com/play:cba905c1
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 November 2013 13:09 (ten years ago) link
OK. I'm scared to listen to this.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 3 November 2013 13:16 (ten years ago) link
I had a dream last night that I was a volunteer at a high school football game & I was selling this special edition Pop Secret popcorn that was in a green colored bag with yes on it and all the money raised went to Don Henley's Walden Woods charity & some of the Republican parents were upset that we were allowed to sell it at a high school event
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 November 2013 13:46 (ten years ago) link
Green colored bag with TREES on it
hahaha i was hoping the bag just had the word YES all over itYES charity popcorn
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Sunday, 3 November 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/36605627/Close+To+The+Edge+Expanded+YesCloseToTheEdge.jpg
― carl agatha, Sunday, 3 November 2013 16:40 (ten years ago) link
Okay, I had a world of trouble trying to get this one to load. I compromised and found a some Russian radio site that had the song up as a sound file. The only problem is it was part of some huge Eagles radio retrospective and it had DJs talking over alot of it.
Anyway, "Fast Company": Slap Bass! Donster Falsetto! Brittle Funk! Have they been listening to some Cameo or even Prince during their hiatus? Nice horn chart. A good change of pace in this tracklisting.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
Also upon further research, I've noticed the Russian Radio Guys did the smart thing and faded the song 45 seconds early.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 November 2013 19:52 (ten years ago) link
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here ya go.... new one! "We get into his purple Camaro and bomb out onto the freeway at 100mph. I'm terrified, but kind of excited, too"
― Lee626, Monday, 4 November 2013 12:06 (ten years ago) link
"Do Something"
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_qQCewSWWAH0/TAwMr4IeWxI/AAAAAAAACG8/o1oaOPn8Ji8/s1600/EaglesConcert5.30.2010+(2).JPG
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/9108751/do_something_eagles/
― scott seward, Monday, 4 November 2013 14:12 (ten years ago) link
Smith is a well-respected and sought-after studio musician with credits on many top name albums, actually starting out as a session keyboard player. He is also known for having performed with Rodney Crowell[2] and Shawn Colvin among others, prior to joining the Eagles. In the early 70s he played small gigs in Baltimore and the DC area. Bands that he played with included Babe, Liz Meyer and Switchblade.Over the course of his career, he has worked with John Stewart (Bullets in the Hour Glass) Mary Chapin Carpenter (Stones in the Road), Shawn Colvin (Fat City, A Few Small Repairs, Cover Girl[3]), Rodney Crowell (Life is Messy), Rosanne Cash (Retrospective), Loudon Wainwright III (Last Man on Earth), Vince Gill (These Days, High Lonesome Sound, I Still Believe In You), Dolly Parton (Something Special), Wynonna Judd (Wynonna, Tell Me Why, New Day Dawning), Trisha Yearwood (Inside Out, Song Remembers When, Where Your Road Leads), Suzzy Roche (Songs from an Unmarried Housewife), The Cicadas[4] (Cicadas), Terri Clark (Fearless), Darden Smith (Field of Crows), Lari White (Lead Me Not), Crystal Bernard (Don't Touch Me There), Chely Wright (Let Me In), Thrasher Shiver (Thrasher Silver), Kasey Chambers (Wayward Angel), Karen Staley (Fearless), J.C. Jones (One Night), Sonny Burgess, Brady Seals (Thompson Street), Matt Duke (Winter Child), Michelle Branch (Hotel Paper), Lucy Wainwright Roche (Lucy), and others including Charlie Louvin (The Longest Train) and Washington DC music legend Root Boy Slim (Dog Secrets).
― scott seward, Monday, 4 November 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
metacafe? this end run of songs is turning up video sites that I didn't know existed.
yesterday's Russian site was only loading for me in five-second fragments: so i heard a bass drum, a Henley bleat, 20 secs of silence, another Henley grunt. Figured that was as good a way to hear "fast company" as any.
today's song is a drag x 20. Tim Schmit's voice is just ghastly: he sounds like a schoolmarm. It's enough that when Henley barges in towards the end, it's a blessing. wow this record is the pits.
― col, Monday, 4 November 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
lol @ bleat/grunt
going to that russian site made me feel kind of yucky and i couldn't get it to work eitheri guess is the last big hill, and i think i'll wait for y'all down here because there is no way i am going further out of my way to hear another one of these songs than i already havei would describe their sound as "flabby".
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 4 November 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
oops missing *this after guessi am repulsed by the eagles just that much
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 4 November 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
i knew this last leg would be rough but man i really can't wait for this to be over. you guys might have to do solo henley without me.
― scott seward, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
She said faster, faster -- the lights are turning red.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 4 November 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
"We get into his purple Camaro and bomb out onto the freeway at 100mph.
You can take the man out of Chanhassen, but...
― pplains, Monday, 4 November 2013 16:57 (ten years ago) link
i guess is the last big hill, and i think i'll wait for y'all down here because there is no way i am going further out of my way to hear another one of these songs
come on man, we're going to need all hands on deck when we hit the 10-minute-plus title song
― col, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:37 (ten years ago) link
i dunno. i was having a pretty good morning, enjoying a variety of feelies covers, generally on an optimistic trajectory and then i checked this thread and saw the picture (loled) and tried to listen to the song, but it didn't play immediately and i just felt like "i'm seriously supposed to wait for even 1 more second to hear this song by the EAGLES when i could be doing something that makes me feel good about myself and my life?" and i gave upwhat have they done lately to earn even one more minute of my time? i have enjoyed clowning around with y'all, that has been pleasant, but these songs? guuuuuuuuuuh so awful. at least the last one i heard was awful
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
"do something" sounds like a christopher cross discard.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 4 November 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
Do Something is the musical equivalent of hospital food.
I couldn't get the sketchy Bulgarian (Google said it was in Bulgarian) site to load.
― carl agatha, Monday, 4 November 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
I couldn't get today's link to load. i found a thirty second preview clip on another and all I can say is "Bland Country". I also found the lyrics in French:
Traduction et explication de la chanson Do Something :{Fais quelque chose}J'ai marché à travers les champsEt dans les rues de la villeEssayant de donner un sens à ce que tu m'a laisséTout ce que je croyaisJe n'y crois plusEt maintenant il semble que le monde tout entier soit devenu fouMais quand je me sens près à abandonnerEt que je suis prêt à partirDans le calme, je peux entendreUne voix en moi me direFais quelque choseFais quelque choseIl est trop tard pour se sauverNe reste pas planté là, prends l'espacePourquoi ne fais tu rien ?Fais quelque choseCe n'est pas finiNon, ce n'est jamais trop tardTu étais toujours à mes côtésL'amour était tout ce qu'on avaitMaintenant je m'assois et regarde notre amour s'envolerJe ramasse le journalToutes les nouvelles sont mauvaisesComment en sommes nous arrivés là ?Mais quand je me sens prêt à abandonnerEt qu'il n'y a nul part où allerCes moments où je m'enfonceLa chose que je saisFais quelque choseFais quelque choseN'abandonne pas pour quelqu'un d'autreNe te sens pas désolé pour toi mêmePourquoi ne fais tu pas quelque chose ?Fais quelque choseCe n'est pas finiNon, ce n'est jamais trop tardCoursTu peux courir pour toujoursPour ton honneurPour ta fiertéTu dormiras mieuxTu auras essayéDe faire quelque choseFais quelque choseC'est si simple Tu n'est pas prêt pour la chaise roulanteLève toi et fais quelque choseFais quelque choseN'attends pas trop longtempsMême si ce n'est pas bonTu dois faire quelque choseFais quelque choseCe n'est pas finiNon, ce n'est jamais trop tard
J'ai marché à travers les champs
Et dans les rues de la ville
Essayant de donner un sens à ce que tu m'a laissé
Tout ce que je croyais
Je n'y crois plusEt maintenant il semble que le monde tout entier soit devenu fou
Mais quand je me sens près à abandonnerEt que je suis prêt à partirDans le calme, je peux entendreUne voix en moi me dire
Fais quelque choseFais quelque choseIl est trop tard pour se sauverNe reste pas planté là, prends l'espacePourquoi ne fais tu rien ?Fais quelque choseCe n'est pas finiNon, ce n'est jamais trop tard
Tu étais toujours à mes côtésL'amour était tout ce qu'on avaitMaintenant je m'assois et regarde notre amour s'envolerJe ramasse le journalToutes les nouvelles sont mauvaisesComment en sommes nous arrivés là ?
Mais quand je me sens prêt à abandonnerEt qu'il n'y a nul part où allerCes moments où je m'enfonceLa chose que je sais
Fais quelque choseFais quelque choseN'abandonne pas pour quelqu'un d'autreNe te sens pas désolé pour toi mêmePourquoi ne fais tu pas quelque chose ?Fais quelque choseCe n'est pas finiNon, ce n'est jamais trop tard
CoursTu peux courir pour toujoursPour ton honneurPour ta fiertéTu dormiras mieuxTu auras essayé
De faire quelque choseFais quelque choseC'est si simple Tu n'est pas prêt pour la chaise roulanteLève toi et fais quelque choseFais quelque choseN'attends pas trop longtempsMême si ce n'est pas bonTu dois faire quelque choseFais quelque choseCe n'est pas finiNon, ce n'est jamais trop tard
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 November 2013 22:04 (ten years ago) link
Oh wait, now it decides to load. Damn, Schmidt, don't you know you used to be in Poco? And you also sang with Gene Clark? And were partially responsible for one of the only songs on this thread to encourage near-universal love? "Do Something"? DO SOMETHING ELSE!!!!!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 November 2013 22:09 (ten years ago) link
BTW, this is where I found a loadable copy of "Fast Company". The page is in Vietnamese. We lost the war, they give us Eagles Funk.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 November 2013 22:14 (ten years ago) link
wow fast company is horrible! the worst yet maybe!
the backing track sounds like a sample track that you would get in vide tutorial on how to use recording software
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 4 November 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
hilarious that it's so difficult to find this megaselling recent album online
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 4 November 2013 22:35 (ten years ago) link
holy hell, "Fast Company" is atrocious. How was something like this on a #1 platinum-selling album in 2007? What an indictment: of everyone, the Eagles and America. When I'm an old crock and some kid asks me: "George W. Bush? how did that happen, old man?" i'll tell her to listen this piece of crap (which'll probably still only be available via Vietnamese bootleggers) and gape-mouthed millennial America will reveal itself to her.
― col, Monday, 4 November 2013 23:19 (ten years ago) link
Ismael otm
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
"You Are Not Alone"
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/26/article-2315221-197CE899000005DC-589_308x425.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df9Sohowp6o
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0812/eagles_reason_9_v_g_mp.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:16 (ten years ago) link
it would make sense that Frey admired R. Kelly's...habits.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
can't believe i'm writing this, but Frey is by far the best thing about this shipwreck of an album. This is another pleasant, even hummable mediocrity: i'll take it, gladly
― col, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
I agree – this is an innocuous ditty but in that it's not charmless.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 14:56 (ten years ago) link
the next song is another solo songwriting credit, also not terrible
Some of us are abandoning ship with this album. Alfred can't wait for the next track and is skipping ahead!
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, now that there's no "Take It To The Limit" or "I Can't Tell You Why" to look forward to, I'm running for the lifeboats.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:21 (ten years ago) link
You guys can't leave me. You can't.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 16:44 (ten years ago) link
totally not terrible, and i'd rate it a step above "innocuous ditty." it's a perfectly ok little folky throwback that could have been written and recorded in pretty much any of the past five decades, and if rayna jaymes' daughter sang it while lounging around in their bedroom on an episode of "nashville," it would totally work.
also of note: it's less than two and a half minutes long.
also: for the first 10 or so seconds of those two and a half minutes, i thought they were about to break into "dust in the wind."
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link
we're running out of Frey-Henley exchanges :(
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:24 (ten years ago) link
Well, yeah.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
Alfred.
You are not alone.
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:38 (ten years ago) link
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
He has dead eyes.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link
wait, who has dead eyes?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:42 (ten years ago) link
grrrrrr.........
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Music/Pix/pictures/2009/4/21/1240304197504/Don-Henley-of-the-Eagles-001.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:43 (ten years ago) link
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/77/Don_Henley_(cropped).jpg
http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Don+Henley+Honored+2007+MusiCares+Person+Year+63BTkIipGHIl.jpg
― scott seward, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/tim-heidecker-the-comedy-slice.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
These pictures are not encouraging anybody to stick around for the end of the thread.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:10 (ten years ago) link
2:24! very short! love it
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
Don: As we all get older, it's refreshing to do shorter songs.
Glenn: They don't take as long to play, so we get backstage sooner for our Eagles wine and handjobs.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
hahaha they all have those little capped bottom teeth that show when they're talking, like howard dean
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
Looks like a partial set of dentures in the last pic Scott posted.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 5 November 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
I feel like they're mocking us
http://www.theonion.com/articles/dhs-warns-us-in-danger-of-another-eagles-reunion-a,34465/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 November 2013 22:25 (ten years ago) link
wow, yeah, is the onion lurking here? so perfect.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 01:29 (ten years ago) link
Haha that is amazing.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
^^I know, right? All that Frey quote needs is a "Don: Well, yeah." behind it.
"You Are Not Alone": This is alright. The folky Americana stuff is a better fit for them at this stage than most of the other avenues trod on this set, and it took Frey to bring the goods. FREY!
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 03:34 (ten years ago) link
"Long Road Out Of Eden"
http://www.suprmchaos.com/eagles1_051212.jpg
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xiu766_eagles-long-road-out-of-eden_music
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
holy shit...
can't believe he sings about the badness of BLOAT in that song. oh the ironing.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:23 (ten years ago) link
could swear he rails against "the power of the jews" too. but i must have misheard. seems in character for the song.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link
Moon shining down through the palmsShadows moving on the sandSomebody whispering the twenty-third psalmDusty rifle in his trembling hands
Somebody trying just to stay aliveHe got promises to keepOver the ocean in americaFar away and fast asleep
Silent stars blinking in the blackness of an endless skyCold silver satellites, ghostly caravans passing byGalaxies unfolding, new worlds being bornPilgrims and prodigals creeping toward the dawnBut it's a long road out of eden
Music blasting from an suvOn a bright and sunny dayRolling down the interstateIn the good ol' usa
Having lunch at the petroleum clubSmokin' fine cigars and swappin' livesHe said: "gimme 'nother slice o' that barbecued brisket!""gimme 'nother piece o' that pecan pie!"
Freeways flickering, cell phones chiming a tuneWe're riding to utopia, road map says we'll be arriving soonCaptains of the old order clinging to the reinsAssuring us these aches inside are only growing painsBut it's a long road out of eden
Back home i was so certainThe path was very clearBut now i have to wonder: "what are we doing here?"I'm not counting on tomorrowAnd i can't tell wrong from rightBut i'd give anything to be there in your arms tonight
Weaving down the american highwayThrough the litter and the wreckage and the cultural junkBloated with entitlement, loaded on propagandaAnd now we're driving dazed and drunk
Been down the road to damascus, The road to mandalayMet the ghost of caesar on the appian wayHe said, "it's hard to stop this bingeing, once you get a taste.""but the road to empire is a bloody stupid waste."
Behold the bitten apple - the power of the toolsBut all the knowledge in the world is of no use to foolsAnd it's a long road out of eden....
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
quaint song for a multi-million dollar business partner of walmart.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:27 (ten years ago) link
This song is about this thread.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:31 (ten years ago) link
I can imagine Henley-Frey concentratin' to make sure they cut the syllables and put apostrophes in the right places.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
That poor PFC, cutting open another care package and it's 25 copies of this.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
Swappin' lies, right?
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
god I hate pecan pie
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
Nut-based pies are bullshit.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
What the hell is wrong with you two?
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link
We've been writin' songs about the workin' man.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
I was going to go to town on that shitty stupid 'nother slice o'brisket line but then this pie heresy happened.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
i'm more anti-sweet potato pie myself. in a world where pumpkins and apples exist. bean pie! that's a thing too. no thanks. i'd eat some pecan pie. that's some sweet stuff.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
now i kinda want some brisket.
I'll take the brisket.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
Wait I'm sorry. Let's not fight. The Eagles are tearing us apart.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
i was actually watching a sister souljah video BEFORE i listened to this song and i thought about muslim bean pies they used to sell in philly. and now this.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
My granddad was said to have made the best pecan pies, but I wouldn't know. I've never sat down to a plate full of WOOD.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Now I'm going to have to listen to this damn song to hear how The Don pronounces "pecan".
My granddad they said he made the best pecan piesbut I wouldn't knowI never sat down to a plate fulla WOOD.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
my first and only time listening to this thing. an annotation:
first minute: cod-"Middle Eastern" motif with whistling sands, distant gong. Video game incidental music.
2nd min: organ line. a creaky Henley surfaces. "moOon shining down thru the paaalms" where are we, Israel? Saudi Arabia? "somewhere we're gonna get blowback from, man. Read Chris Hedges."
3rd: wow, a refrain. H. doggedly has to keep up with the chord progression: it seems to irritate him after a while
4th: drums! crappy guitar mixed right. We're in America now! SUVs, interstates, BBQ. "Petroleum clubs?"
5th: refrain again.
6th: guitars, not quite soloing. Henley cuts 'em short with a sort-of bridge that uses the same chords as the chorus. actual solo happens: sounds like a YouTube instructional video.
7th: spooky "Arabic" theme returns. Sounds slightly like the backwards cult music used in "Eyes Wide Shut" shitty drum fill, like someone hitting a trash can lid, wakes everyone up.
somewhere around here: road to Damascus! Road to Morocco! (Henley can't remember any more Crosby/Hope movies) Road to empire!
8th to 10th: more first-gear guitar, massed humming. something resembling a drum shuffle. Schmit gets a bass fill, as if he was the last guy awake in the studio. at last, the song seems to just die in its sleep.
― col, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
"gimme 'nother slice o' that barbecued brisket!"
Seriously of all the terrible Eagles lyrics this may make me the most irritated. It's the "o". It has the same syllables as "of" so why the "o" you ridiculous fucks? Why?
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
I don't mind that, I'm prone to mumble and not pronounce the 'f' myself.
"'nother" is more unforgivable imo.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:08 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
he does pronounce it with a long 'e' and shit, i should've known this was going to be the ten-minute cut.
Also Paul Kowtowski is crazy.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
Already missing "King of Hollywood"
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
hell, this makes me miss "The Last Resort"
― col, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
he does pronounce it with a long 'e' and shit
I always did, too, until I started dating a southerner who would say "Pee can? A can you pee in? Why do you want to eat that?" whenever I would.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
It'd be more of a Southern thing to pronounce it with a long e, but it's like a rare French moment where it's pronounced puh-CAHN.
Watching someone eat a bowl of pecans to me is like watching someone nibbling on old furniture.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:43 (ten years ago) link
Deez nuts
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
pecans >>>> the eagles
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
Don: People who like pecan pie........
Glenn: Are they assholes?
― Swag Heathen (theStalePrince), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
I happened to hear this when listening to one of Sirius' middlebrow AOR/AAA stations like the loft or the spectrum or somesuch that will play new stuff by old guys like in september when this thread was involved in the 70s rekkids. My was it insufferable. clearly Don's 07 update of "hotel California" but still nowhere near as hideous as '95's similarly inclined "garden of allah."
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:01 (ten years ago) link
Paul KotowskiWhat a masterpiece. On par with Hotel California and the greatest songs the Eagles have ever done.By Paul Kotowski- 3 weeks ago
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:35 (ten years ago) link
He said: "gimme 'nother slice o' that barbecued brisket!""gimme 'nother piece o' that pecan pie!"
^song could have been saved if jerry reed had done a came to deliver these lines like "amos moses"
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:37 (ten years ago) link
^don splits the difference....pee-CAHN not puh-cahn or pee-can
what an artist
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:38 (ten years ago) link
It's like Henley/Frey got so clever flipping the script and having the fat cats eat cue and pie instead of caviar and champagne that it became not clever anymore.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 16:45 (ten years ago) link
WTF AT THIS ANTI-PECAN HERESY
― balls, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:31 (ten years ago) link
It's really weird, isn't it? I mean, I've had bad pecan pie, but good pecan pie is sublime.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:36 (ten years ago) link
http://www.beyondbowls.com/wp-content/gallery/bowls/spalted-pecan-bowl.jpg
Man, if only I could mash this up and make a pie out of it.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:44 (ten years ago) link
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― col, Monday, October 28, 2013 7:13 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
evidently Long Road Out of Eden was sold not only at Wal-Mart, but also their sister store Sam's Club. I'm imagining palettes stacked with 8-packs of Long Road Out of Eden by the checkout cashiers, bulk-wrapped so you could conveniently hate-buy the CD for all your obnoxious relatives with a single purchase.....
I've been listening to today's song as I write this for well over a minute and the vocals haven't kicked in yet. But I already know it's a 10-minute song about pecans....
― Lee626, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
I was kind of hoping the DUN-DUN of "Livin' Thing" would kick in after the first minute, but no such luck.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link
Headin' to Lockhart for brisket and pecan pie...
― Liquid Plejades, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:06 (ten years ago) link
surprised this wasn't the album sleeve
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/braised-brisket-woman-0910-lg-88673427.jpg
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link
pplains, all I can think is that you've only had terrible pecans in your life.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link
dudes! the pecan pie is a metaphor. it is a metaphor for a second helping of barbecued brisket, which is the thing this whole song is about.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:18 (ten years ago) link
Don: "You're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough pecan pie in my time to know how it should be made. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with pecan pie. It's a sociopolitical statement."
― Lee626, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
I just don't get them. walnuts not on my nice list either.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:23 (ten years ago) link
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Don+Henley+cYj7xobU-Ohm.jpg
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:33 (ten years ago) link
Alfred that album sleeve was reserved by The Cars for their brisket album
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
its glen frey's birthday todayhttp://www.theawl.com/2013/11/glenn-frey-is-65
― jbn, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:46 (ten years ago) link
I have had a longstanding suspicion that people like to talk about brisket more than other meats (pastrami for example) because the word is so appealing to say and hear.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:49 (ten years ago) link
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:18 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but what if the pecan pie is a metaphor for a second helping of brisket which is, in turn, a metaphor for.....ANOTHER PIECE OF PECAN PIE?????
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:51 (ten years ago) link
I still think of brisket as being more like a cheese or lightly-salted bread snack.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:53 (ten years ago) link
I mean I dunno, they should be called "barbecued pork slimpies" or something.
― pplains, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
unbeknownst to you all, the pecan pie and brisket were actually Timothy Schmidt's only contribution to the song. "you know, I've been reading up on Americana, Don" he said one day in the studio. An impressed Henley let him write two lines.
― col, Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
but pork slimpies isn't sexy like brisket
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Wednesday, 6 November 2013 18:59 (ten years ago) link
How appropriate--the song stopped in the middle so I could see a Mr. Clean ad, and then a again with 15 seconds to go for TWO dayquil ads w/Drew Brees. I like that there's electric piano on this. The rest...not so much.
clearly Don's 07 update of "hotel California" but still nowhere near as hideous as '95's similarly inclined "garden of allah."
It's like he forgot how to make one of these epics work. It's a terrible thing to say, but Don really needs some no-good woman to build his epics around.
For the strong of stomach, the uncut video of "The Garden of Allah": http://youtu.be/cpnlnoaUSpE (summary: everything wrong with the '90s + shouting Don Henley)
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 November 2013 01:20 (ten years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_USySsJoOMYc/SqPMP2kSMjI/AAAAAAAACSc/2wijvmUz8ZY/s400/Hardcore+122.png
― balls, Thursday, 7 November 2013 01:40 (ten years ago) link
George C. Scott OTM. "TURN IT OFF!"
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 7 November 2013 06:47 (ten years ago) link
"I Dreamed There Was No War"
http://l.yimg.com/ao/news/frey1.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV4B8K0jTg4
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
Hi, Glenn!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:03 (ten years ago) link
More solo Glenn; I assume he's playing the gee-tar too. In concert he'll close his eyes and ooze guitar hero sincerity.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:09 (ten years ago) link
The idea of a song called "I Dreamed There Was No War" written entirely by Glenn Frey fills the soul with dread, but as it turns out it's an instrumental! and it's only 1:39! Bless you, Glenn. This is a like a sip of cold water after yesterday's greasy brisket.
― col, Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
sip o' cold water
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
from the YT comments:
Jennifer McCoy "again, if you don't love the eagles, you don't love america. if you don't identify with all we have lost in the love of our great country. if their souls don't burn in your heart when you hear this song, then you should probably find another country. glenn, timothy, don, joe, you boys always get to the heart of it. the very heart. our heart. this is the love song of our country.
HeyBennyBoy
geez people, just enjoy the song"
― col, Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:17 (ten years ago) link
Jennifer McCoy OTM
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
brisket kinda burns its soul into my heart but i heart it anyway.
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:28 (ten years ago) link
ol' pecan pie they call him...
http://gonzoshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/DSC_2003.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:41 (ten years ago) link
"I Dreamed There Was No War": Hat's off to Roach for avoiding everything that could have gone wrong with the Eagles doing a song with this title. For some reason I want to sing "My Way" (the Anka-Sinatra one) over this track.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 November 2013 20:04 (ten years ago) link
Kinda has Top Gun soundtrack vibe
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 November 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Thursday, November 7, 2013 11:28 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Brisket is so good
― One Way Ticket on the 1277 Express (Bill Magill), Thursday, 7 November 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
three things we learn from the haim feature in the current issue of rolling stone:
1. when they were kids, they played in a band with their parents that covered the eagles.
2. they still like the eagles, "except for that song," says danielle, referring to "hotel california."
3. they recently hung out on a pecan farm.
coincidence? I think not.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Thursday, 7 November 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link
woah, this goes deep
*takes the red pill*
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 November 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
"they still like the eagles, "except for that song," says danielle, referring to "hotel california."
"that song" is like Haydn compared to the majority of the stuff we've endured on this thread
― col, Thursday, 7 November 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
Heard David & David's "Welcome To The Boomtown" today. Love how the Davids take the Eagles gateway image of the LA-burnout cowboy and make a great song. Probably could have been the Eagles of AAA radio back then, but they wisely took their songwriting deals and went their separate ways.
I can imagine Henley & Frey hearing Boomtown and shouting at Azoff. Frey: "Can't we get those guys to write for us?" and lots of "Well, yeahs" for Sheryl Crow from Henley.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 November 2013 07:25 (ten years ago) link
"Somebody"
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Don+Henley+History+Eagles+Premiere+Q+2013+sChui6Vrrznl.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yboA4MVAwrc
― scott seward, Friday, 8 November 2013 14:14 (ten years ago) link
when Frey puts on his I'm-playing-a-character voice it's like hearing an air raid siren.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
"there's a big black crow and it's CAWLIN' YOU HOME". Is this supposed to be spooky? It's like something Tempchin wrote for a horror film that never got past the script stage. This evaporates all the mild good will that Frey's generated over his past few songs.
The Walsh solo is so generic you wonder if he cut a run of them on DAT, went on vacation and had them dub in whichever one sorta fitted.
― col, Friday, 8 November 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
and the drums sound like Henley beat an angel food cake with toilet paper rolls.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
glenn really wanted to be "the one without a scarf" in that picture huhso i decided to listen to this one bc it's on youtube. why is he so hateful? this song is like being berated by someone who is bad at berating. i made it just over a minute.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 8 November 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
okay i didn't actually listen to this whole song until now. its terrible. this album is so terrible.
― scott seward, Friday, 8 November 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
Oh wow, Frey's 'character' voice. That's a doozy. Who's he trying to ape, Dr. John or somebody? Also: six-string bass. I'd like to think the "Big Black Crow" line refers to this guy:
http://www.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/03/Chris-Robinson1.jpg
"Baby, I'm CAWLIN' YOU HOME/'cause Bob Weir's coming over/and he's bringin' burritos..."
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
i was sort of ok with this until the first chorus. simply, not fussy, not trying too hard. and then all of a sudden it starts trying.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:58 (ten years ago) link
simple and not fussy, that is.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link
that particular big black crow(e) looks like he's auditioning for monster magnet.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Friday, 8 November 2013 21:00 (ten years ago) link
the eagles manage to be simple AND fussy
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 November 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
^^That the cost of being too busy being fabulous.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 8 November 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
i feel like everyone on this thread could write a better evildoer gonna get their just deserts song. devil gonna feed you his pecan pie in the graveyard at midnight under a pumpkin pie moon.
― scott seward, Friday, 8 November 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
devil's gonna make you chug all night
― col, Friday, 8 November 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
Get over it! Get over it! Get over it!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Friday, 8 November 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
hey this record has a cool color-changing album cover!
― Lee626, Friday, 8 November 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link
"Frail Grasp On The Big Picture"
http://www.vancitybuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/history-of-the-eagles-tour.jpg
http://www.moskva.fm/artist/eagles/song_1502160
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 13:34 (ten years ago) link
Frail Grasp On The Big Picture: The Story of the Eagles
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
we keep making the same mistakesover and over and over and over again
― Brad C., Saturday, 9 November 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
Joe's playing the Glenn Frey signature Rickenbacker.
"How do you like my guitar, Joe? Yeah, maybe someday you'll be as good a guitarist as me, and then you can have your own signature model!" (pats Joe's head)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 9 November 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
just stop making songs, Eagles
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 15:47 (ten years ago) link
worst band on the planet.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
Next time someone goes on about "oh the Eagles are great, just hipster punk rockers won't give them a chance" I'm going to go off on them like Sam Kinison does on that student who answers the question about Vietnam in history class in Back to School with Rodney Dangerfield
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 November 2013 18:25 (ten years ago) link
Haaaaa
― carl agatha, Saturday, 9 November 2013 18:34 (ten years ago) link
Well, ain't it a shameThat our short little memoriesNever seem to learnThe message of historyWe keep makin' the same mistakesOver and over and over and over againAnd then we wonder whyWe're in the shape we're in
Good ol' boys down at the barPeanuts and politicsThey think they know it allThey don't know much of nothingEven if one of them was to read the newspaperCover-to-coverThat ain't what's going onJournalism's dead and gone
Frail grasp on the big pictureLight fading and the fog is getting thickerIt's a frail grasp on the big pictureDark ages
You my love-drunk friendAll that red wine and candlelightSoulful conversationsThat go on until the dawnHow many times can you tell your story?How many hangovers can you endureJust to get some snuggling done?You're living in a hollow dreamYou don't have the slightest notionWhat long-term love is all aboutAll your romantic liasonsDon't deal with eternal questions likeWho left the cap off the freaking toothpaste?Whose turn to take the garbage out?
Frail grasp on the big pictureYou keep on rubbin' that, you're gonna get a blisterIt's a frail grasp on the big pictureI've seen it all before
And we pray to our LordWho we know is AmericanHe reigns from on highHe speaks to us through middlemenAnd he shepherds his flockWe sing out and we praise His nameHe supports us in warHe presides over football gamesAnd the right will prevailAll our troubles shall be resolvedWe have faith in the LordUnless there's money or sex involved
Frail grasp on the big pictureNobody's calling them for roughing up the pitcherIt's a frail grasp on the big pictureHeaven help us
Frail grasp on the big pictureAll waiting for that miracle elixirFrail grasp on the big pictureI don't wonder anymore
Frail grasp on the big pictureSomebody says, "You brought her here so go ahead and kiss herFrail grasp on the big picture
Frail grasp on the big pictureLight fading and the fog is getting thickerIt's a frail grasp on the big picture
Frail grasp on the big pictureFrail grasp on the big picture
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
pecans and politics
For fuck's sake, the Eagles just hate EVERYBODY.
"Hey, fuck you egghead, ya fuckin' poindexter! Hey, fuck you too, ya dumbfuck uneducated hick sitting at the bar!"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 9 November 2013 18:58 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:01 (ten years ago) link
they even hate football. some all-american band they are.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
Who left the cap off the freaking toothpaste?
i couldn't actually get through that whole song on the stupid russian site but i got the gist of it. it sucks.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
How many hangovers can you endureJust to get some snuggling done?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
Dylanesque...
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:17 (ten years ago) link
And we pray to our LordWho we know is AmericanHe reigns from on highHe speaks to us through middlemenAnd he shepherds his flockWe sing out and we praise His nameHe supports us in warHe presides over football gamesAnd the right will prevail
ohhhhh SATIRE
Frail grasp on the big pictureYou keep on rubbin' that, you're gonna get a blister
ohhhh one of them double entendre things
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:20 (ten years ago) link
has there ever been a band with as much naked contempt for its audience as these guys?
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
DON: We were disturbed like a lot of our generation by some of the things we've seen, so we thought, "Why not beat the mugs at their own game? We'll sell the record at Wal-Mart." This way we could educate them on how our country works.
GLENN: We got the idea from Theodor Adorno, who wrote several texts in which he excoriated the consumer class for the commodification of taste.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:26 (ten years ago) link
the Eagles: secret Situationists
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2013/04/Don-Henley.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:34 (ten years ago) link
http://www.mtv.com/crop-images/2013/08/15/Don%20Henley%20Getty%20Rick%20Madonik%202013.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
first pic of DH looks like he's playing the heavy in a '90s "near future" SF movie
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
I know you guys insist Frey is worse but seriously give Don Henley's eyes another glance: those fuckers have seen and done evil shit.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
The last picture: Don demonstrating the percussive skills that have made him a legend in rock circles.
Maybe that's their appeal. The Eagles hate everybody so people who listen can feel like they are in an exclusive club of special people who occupy the narrow space of who the Eagles don't hate.
Jokes on the fans though because the Eagles hate them too.
xp wait Alfred did you make that up? I can't even tell anymore.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
The part about Theodor Adorno.
Too many xps. Eagles-haas is making us prolific.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
cuz you're my fact-checking carl
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:38 (ten years ago) link
forgot about this cover
http://991.com/newgallery/Don-Henley-Actual-Miles---Gr-469957.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
did you forget Henley's "Hotel California" sequel "The Garden of Allah"?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
"Maybe that's their appeal. The Eagles hate everybody so people who listen can feel like they are in an exclusive club of special people who occupy the narrow space of who the Eagles don't hate."
this is rush limbaugh too.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
At least Joe's signature model is based on his actual guitar. Frey's
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:41 (ten years ago) link
what's the book?
http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/countygrind/don_henley_classic_130_1978.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:44 (ten years ago) link
fuck it, I'm too disgusted by this Ho Chi Minh Trail of Henley/Frey hectoring to even link to it
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:45 (ten years ago) link
oh it must be the edward abbey book.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
noted misanthrope edward abbey.
i can't find a picture of the abbey book with that cover anywhere though.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:49 (ten years ago) link
okay, found it.
http://cb.pbsstatic.com/l/02/4502/9780394474502.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:53 (ten years ago) link
(from Amazon):
Harry Crosby was the godson of J. P. Morgan and a friend of Ernest Hemingway. Living in Paris in the twenties and directing the Black Sun Press, which published James Joyce among others, Crosby was at the center of the wild life of the lost generation. Drugs, drink, sex, gambling, the deliberate derangement of the senses in the pursuit of transcendent revelation: these were Crosby's pastimes until 1929, when he shot his girlfriend, the recent bride of another man, and then himself.Black Sun is novelist and master biographer Geoffrey Wolff's subtle and striking picture of a man who killed himself to make his life a work of art.
Black Sun is novelist and master biographer Geoffrey Wolff's subtle and striking picture of a man who killed himself to make his life a work of art.
(thought it was the Abbey book too)
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:55 (ten years ago) link
Drugs, drink, sex, gambling, the deliberate derangement of the senses in the pursuit of transcendent revelation: these were Crosby's pastimes until 1929, when he shot his girlfriend, the recent bride of another man, and then himself.
in some used bookstore in America is Henley's copy, with marginalia like "heavy" and "need to research"
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:58 (ten years ago) link
and 'talk to Joe about it'
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:59 (ten years ago) link
― scott seward, Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:40 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
And Frank Zappa.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
so mister environmentalist has an 11 million dollar compound in dallas?
http://www3.dmagazine.com/images/100me/don-henley.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:05 (ten years ago) link
http://www3.dmagazine.com/content/100-Most-Expensive-Homes-In-Dallas-2013/Don-Henley
He had Walden Pond bulldozed and relocated to Dallas iirc
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:06 (ten years ago) link
also had Emerson's body disinterred and planted near his tennis court
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:09 (ten years ago) link
and the he drained Walden Pond & built his house in it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
lol @ col
Noteworthy: 6 fireplaces, 3 wet bars
H.:"I'm working on improving that ratio"
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:13 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: Henley's place is really something! Six fireplaces! Three wet bars! Fuckin Walden Pond, man!
DON: I wantd to make sure that Dallas could be its own self-supporting ecosystem -- to preserve the things I love.
GLENN: With three wet bars and four jacuzzis, man, you wanted to confuse the cops who were looking for a dead underaged chick.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/06/18/garden/at-home-with-don-henley-in-his-mulholland-drive-wilderness.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm
from back in the pre-compound days of '92, when H. only had a 2,700-sq. ft. bachelor manse in Hollywood.
Now his environmental activities are a little more upscale. A couple of years ago, when Southern California was imposing restrictions to fight a drought, he drained the water from his pool and hot tub for a year. WALKING the WALK, folks.
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:20 (ten years ago) link
On the need for open space: "Humankind survived on the savanna grasslands in the Eastern part of Africa. We need once in a while to put our bare feet on the ground."
On his lobbying techniques: "I adopted the Lyndon Baines Johnson tactic of bringing your enemies into your own camp."
On being named an honorary citizen of Massachusetts: "I wonder if that means I'll have to pay taxes there, too?"
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
so he's a barefoot Mark Levin.
http://img5.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/4/u/4uyhgue98q3p4py8.jpg?obn5da3o
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
I have a brother who I haven't seen or spoken to in 17 years. For my 17th birthday in 1982 he bought me a copy of I Can't Stand Still (which had just come out). I think this is the only Eagles-related album I've ever owned.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
time for a reconciliation. Ask Casey Kasem to dedicate "Love Will Keep Us Alive" to him.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Scarlett+Johansson+Don+Henley+49th+Annual+PhN3Udg0ixql.jpg
watch out for this one, Johansson
― col, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:43 (ten years ago) link
RUN SCOJO RUN!!
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
First thing I thought of when I saw the Dallas spread: no income tax.
That actual miles cover is to close to my style than I really needed to see.
― pplains, Saturday, 9 November 2013 23:01 (ten years ago) link
i will never understand rich people who build massive mansions RIGHT NEXT TO other mansions. and henley's is flanked by two big roads. there's no room to breathe! if i were a megabucks i wouldn't be anywhere near anyone else. i would be surrounded by a thousand acres of my own walden woods. money can buy you your own feudal state, who the hell would want to be surrounded by tons of dallas oil people?
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 November 2013 23:59 (ten years ago) link
lol i had that same thought scott
― balls, Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:08 (ten years ago) link
scott otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:16 (ten years ago) link
and conversely, surely you'd want henley as far away from ppl as possible, for everyones benefit
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:17 (ten years ago) link
if i were a megabucks i wouldn't be anywhere near anyone else.
A certain legendary comedian (whose name rhymes with Shmill Shmosby) in your neck of the woods has put this into practice.
(and Miles Davis married Cicely Tyson at his house in the mid-1980s)
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:35 (ten years ago) link
Awesome. It's been awhile on this thread since I've been able to break out the Google Maps.
http://i.snag.gy/5ixJW.jpg
― pplains, Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:38 (ten years ago) link
Also Donster lives fewer than three miles away from Shrubya. Maybe they meet up at Starbucks for some pecan pie every once in awhile.
http://i.snag.gy/J1jTH.jpg
― pplains, Sunday, 10 November 2013 00:45 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild: "New Kid In Town" playing at an Ocean State Job Lot
― col, Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link
Don: Wendy Davis is a true patriot, and I completely endorse her platform against the cronyism leading to a frail grasp on the big picture shared by her opponent, Mr. Abbott, and all his friends down at the Petroleum Club.
Glenn: And I think I can speak for us both when I endorse the platform that both myself and Don would totally hit that.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link
"Frail Grasp On The Big Picture": This is supposed to be a devolved "Dirty Laundry", right?
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 November 2013 02:15 (ten years ago) link
Frey's house in Hawaii: http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/rocker-glenn-frey-pays-775m-for-a-six-bedroom-4400-square-foot-estate-in-hana-hawaii/
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 November 2013 03:07 (ten years ago) link
"Last Good Time In Town"
http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joe+Walsh+Opening+Gala+Unmasking+Resnick+Pavilion+5X_qCXetMcXl.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8zoR-n5sig
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 17:41 (ten years ago) link
"Jazz on Trombone Jazz on Trombone" he whispered insistingly.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 November 2013 20:21 (ten years ago) link
I like the music on this, probably the most interesting on the album. The chorus reminds you that the song is not just Walsh, but Walsh with The Eagles, which isn't quite a good thing. I assume all that extra percussion is not Henley.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 November 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/joe-walshs-house-2/
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link
joe is also surrounded.
http://www.starmap.com/the-eagles-vocalist-songwriter-joe-walshs-house/
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 20:49 (ten years ago) link
mike nesmith's old house
http://www.bergproperties.com/blog/rocker-joe-walsh-pays-45m-for-a-2308-square-foot-house-in-the-hills-above-beverly-hills-ca-that-former-monkees-frontman-mike-nesmith-once-owned-clearl/
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
Walsh has owned other Los Angeles-area properties over the years. He currently owns:
--A 2,437-square-foot house at in Los Angeles' Studio City neighborhood, which he has owned since 1991, according to public records;
--A 791-square-foot condominium at 2005 in Carlsbad, Calif. that he purchased in early 2006 for $450,000, according to public records.
--A 4,878-square-foot house at in Encinitas, Calif. that he purchased with other family members in early 2007 for $1,900,000, according to public records.
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link
Classic anecdote from the "Life's Been Good" thread:
I've never had much desire to meet and/or hang with celebrities, but i've always thought that in a perfect world John Waters and Joe Walsh would be my neighbors, and we would barbeque every weekend.The first time an ex gf of mine ever came to my house she got all excited realizing she had briefly lived around the corner when she was 12. "And you'll never guess who lived next door... Joe Walsh!!!" (He lived here for about a year and a half during and after recording _Got Any Gum_ at Ardent). She then began to regale me with tales of him playing guitar for her and her sister, buying them goofy christmas presents and the time she walked outside to find a shopping cart from the neighborhood grocery perched on the roof of his carport.― will, Friday, February 8, 2008 9:23 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
The first time an ex gf of mine ever came to my house she got all excited realizing she had briefly lived around the corner when she was 12. "And you'll never guess who lived next door... Joe Walsh!!!" (He lived here for about a year and a half during and after recording _Got Any Gum_ at Ardent). She then began to regale me with tales of him playing guitar for her and her sister, buying them goofy christmas presents and the time she walked outside to find a shopping cart from the neighborhood grocery perched on the roof of his carport.
― will, Friday, February 8, 2008 9:23 PM (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 November 2013 20:54 (ten years ago) link
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/timothy-b-schmits-house/
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:01 (ten years ago) link
felder's monster house has some nice palm trees
http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/don-felders-house/
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:03 (ten years ago) link
he used to live in an even bigger monster originally owned by tommy chong until nick nolte bought it
http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2013/04/23/nick-nolte-lists-malibu-home-for-8-25-million/
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
felder's net worth on here pegged at 60 million. probably cuzza the lawsuit. timothy b. listed at a mere 15 million.
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rock-stars/don-felder-net-worth/
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:06 (ten years ago) link
I use that site a lot but wonder at its accuracy.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:19 (ten years ago) link
Jesse: What are your parents doing today?Me: Watching the game at an Eagles bar. (nb: Philadelphia Eagles)Jesse, horrified: the band?!?
― carl agatha, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:27 (ten years ago) link
Leadon's worth twice as much at T.B. Schmidt? That doesn't entirely compute.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:28 (ten years ago) link
Leadon: 72-75 Greatest Hits + Hotel Calif. $> Schmidt = Long Run, Hell Freezes Over & this awful record ?
― col, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:52 (ten years ago) link
it's v. fitting this thread spends its dying days talking about Eagles real estate. They would approve, i think
― col, Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:53 (ten years ago) link
Leadon checked out by Hotel California.
Hm. Guess he could leave.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 10 November 2013 21:54 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I don't know if I believe that Felder is worth that much more than Schmitt. That said, I'm sure he was set for life as soon as he got a writing credit on Hotel California (the song).
― intheblanks, Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:11 (ten years ago) link
I also imagine he got a large chunk of money from the lawsuit settlement.
For completeness sake: http://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/randy-meisners-house/
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:13 (ten years ago) link
he got a LOT of money in the settlement. maybe even a hundred million.
― scott seward, Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:21 (ten years ago) link
like he says in that howard stern interview, eagles are a billion dollar industry.
sorry: confused Leadon w/Meisner, as one does
― col, Sunday, 10 November 2013 22:34 (ten years ago) link
In the wild: the tail end of "Love Will Keep Us Alive" as I walked I to a casual dining restaurant. It was followed by one of those old man hat guys.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 November 2013 23:05 (ten years ago) link
"I to"= "into"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 10 November 2013 23:06 (ten years ago) link
"last good time in town" sounds like a steely dan song gone terribly wrong. i like the percussion, though, and bonus points for mentioning crossword puzzles. there should be more rock songs about crosswords.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 11 November 2013 03:01 (ten years ago) link
"I Love To Watch A Woman Dance"
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2013/07/eagles-Rick-Diamond.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRqCYddPYTQ
― scott seward, Monday, 11 November 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
was tempted to use this picture though when i heard the song:
http://cdn.pophangover.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/tumblr_m2e5gqQZC31r3bp1do1_500.gif
What a perfectly gross example evolution of The Eagles approach to writing about women. Gag.
― carl agatha, Monday, 11 November 2013 15:32 (ten years ago) link
That sentence barely made sense but neither does this stupid awful song.
"her face is holy"?
seriously?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 November 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
the combination of the grotesque lyric and Frey's straining, whiny vocal (which sinks into a mumble midway through: he sounds like Ira Kaplan at one point) is just...guh. This album's going out like WWII did. Career-encapsulating lyric: "there's so much I don't understand."
― col, Monday, 11 November 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
My least favorite lyric is when her breath on Frey's neck slowly breaks down his will.
― intheblanks, Monday, 11 November 2013 16:15 (ten years ago) link
ok missed a couple:
"last good time in town" - for a second expected someone to sing "oye como va"...this sounds really "80s" in kind of an appealing way, wonder if this was some leftover of a solo album or something?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 November 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link
"i love to watch a woman dance"...oh lord 20 seconds in an i'm fucking horrified.
this is about a strip club right?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 November 2013 23:31 (ten years ago) link
"our eyes connectshe takes my hand"
lap dance
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 11 November 2013 23:32 (ten years ago) link
god this guy is so embarrassing
All He Wants To Do Is Watch A Woman Dance
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link
He's the Chobini yogurt of musicians.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
when it works it's tasty and calorie-light; when spoiled it curdles the stomach and lands you in the hospital.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 01:02 (ten years ago) link
lolololol #chobanitimei haven't even thought about listening to this song but i am 100% sure it sucks
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
the only thing that brought to mind is "he tastes like paste" and i just died of gross
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 01:07 (ten years ago) link
:(((((
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 01:43 (ten years ago) link
;_;
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 03:28 (ten years ago) link
"I Love To Watch A Woman Dance": A nice little musical track, which deserves a lyric about, I dunno, seeing your kids grow up and graduate from school, or perhaps some about "Honey, we're getting older but I still love you" (which, tbf, is almost where this song was headed). These guys can't even get sincerity right.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 04:41 (ten years ago) link
"Business As Usual"
http://assets.rollingstone.com/assets/images/story/q-a-don-henley-opens-up-about-the-history-of-the-eagles-at-sundance-20130120/130120-don-henley-306-1358703782.jpg
Look at the weather, look at the newsLook at all the people in denialWe're running time, leaving graceStill we worship at the marketplaceWhile common sense is goin' out of styleI thought that I would be above it all by nowIn some country garden in the shade
But it's business as usualDay after dayBusiness as usualJust grinding awayYou try to be righteousYou try to do goodBut business as usualTurns your heart into wood
Monuments to arrogance reach for the skyOur better nature's buried in the rubbleWe got the prettiest White House that money can buySitting up there in that beltway bubbleThe main jefe talks about our freedomBut this is what he really means...
Business as usualHow dirty we playBusiness as usualDon't you get in the wayYeah, make you feel helplessMake you feel like a clownBusiness as usualIs breakin' me down
Boy, you can't go surfing in Century CityYeah, them sharks out there are lurking beneath the curbYeah, they rob you blind, chew you up, and it ain't prettyAnd it's a soul suckin', soul suckin', soul suckin', soul suckin'Soul suckin', soul suckin' world
Business as usualDay after dayBusiness as usualFeel like walking awayA barrel of monkeysOr band of renownBusiness as usualIs breakin' me downBreakin' me down
― scott seward, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
i honestly could not get any ersatz videos to load or play on all the un-youtube sites i tried. i really tried too.
You try to be righteousYou try to do goodBut business as usualTurns your heart into wood
you know it
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:25 (ten years ago) link
you can listen to about 30 secs. of it here, which is all you need:
http://www.allmusic.com/album/long-road-out-of-eden-mw0000497545
what is this thing? Henley's pissed that he still cares how much he hates humanity? christ, just shut up and tend to your six fireplaces, dude
I thought that I would be above it all by nowIn some country garden in the shade
― col, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
Eagles In The Wild: Looking for a traffic report, found the last half of "Already Gone". Man, those guitars crackle. Miss those guys.
Accident on 30 Westbound was behind me, so it was all clear sailing for me, my boy, Glenn, Randy, Bernie, Don and Don.
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
Heard "The Long Run" in a CVS yesterday. I don't even like that song much, but man, compared to this 2007 shit, it was Miles Davis.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:37 (ten years ago) link
And it's a soul suckin', soul suckin', soul suckin', soul suckin'Soul suckin', soul suckin' world
Morbidly curious how this was delivered
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
I hope the music drops out and it's just him acapella during those verses before the drums, bass, guitars and organ come back, in that order.
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link
Ok guys. This album is on grooveshark.com everyone's favorite quasi legal streaming site.. do your duty. The way he says main jefe is really bad... Soul suckin was as dumb as advertised
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
And man, to think that I usually rep for Grooveshark.
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 14:55 (ten years ago) link
out of a sense of obligation, i listened to it. The chorus has these odd echoed/phased backing vocals. Agree the way H sings "jefe" is dreadful, but nothing prepares you for the volleying "soul sucking" bit. & the line about "sharks luuurking beneath the cuuurb," accompanied by H or whoever clanging a cymbal, sounds like a bad Dylan impression that H. does after a few rounds at the Eagles' Next. Heaps of boring guitar too!
― col, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
I can't wait to hear how that cretin sings "jefe". For some reason the lyrics to this one are making me laugh instead of enraging me. I'd love to laugh at the Eagles irl.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 15:19 (ten years ago) link
We should gather the Eagles in a room and stage a dramatic reading of this thread for them.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 15:25 (ten years ago) link
And lock the doors from the outside.
"looking for the passage back to the place you were before? You mean when you weren't a bunch of tepid old crybabies singing songs with gated vocals?"
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
tomorrow!: the last-ever (touch wood) Henley/Frey composition. End is in sight: If this was the NYC marathon, we'd be staggering into Central Park with a bandaged knee and a torn sneaker, already wearing a space blanket.
― col, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 15:59 (ten years ago) link
You meant "If we were prostitutes in the Henley-Frey apartment, e'd be staggering into Central Park with a bandaged knee and a torn sneaker, already wearing a space blanket."
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
― col, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
Gonna miss those alley-oops, guys.
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
allmusic gives this album 4 stars, wtf?
― Lee626, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:17 (ten years ago) link
I'm so ready to hit I Can't Stand Still.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:19 (ten years ago) link
yeah, noticed that too. Maybe Erlewine was in a good mood the morning he listened to it. But no way in hell "Long Run" gets 3 stars and this mess gets 4.
― col, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
I'm going to post on his FB wall – brb
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 16:43 (ten years ago) link
Maybe Erlewine was in a good mood the morning he listened to it.
He couldn't have been in one 20 tracks later.
― pplains, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 17:09 (ten years ago) link
In the wild (sort of): I'm listening to a phone interview with Terri Nunn on the radio right now, and when asked if she had any Houston stories, she replies that when Berlin first played here in the early '80s, Don Henley came to the show and then took the whole band to dinner at a restaurant he owned.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
Then he charged them for their meals.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
And asked Terri if she still looked like those Penthouse photos.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
"Nunn in the morning, Nunn at night"
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:36 (ten years ago) link
In the wild: "The Long Run" aiding digestion at a Five Guys restaurant in Phoenix, AZ
― intheblanks, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
as it turns out, Henley thought he'd invited Blondie to his restaurant that night. "hey, why didn't you guys play that rapture thing tonight?" he asked over the dessert course
― col, Tuesday, 12 November 2013 21:11 (ten years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, November 12, 2013 3:15 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat),
real life lol
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 November 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link
"Business As Usual", or yet another item from the Terrible Lost Don Henley solo album from the W. years. The second most appropriate song title on this set after "I Don't Want To Hear Anymore".
You know what old Texas guy did better BushCo. songs? Rodney Crowell: http://youtu.be/SKc6EMb7Y-0 (Sex & Gasoline, the album where this comes from is something Henley wishes he could be good and clever enough to make).
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 05:35 (ten years ago) link
rodney crowell is an artist.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 13:58 (ten years ago) link
he makes art.
"Center Of The Universe"
I come before you with my heart in my handHoping you can see me through this veil of tearsSomehow I've got to make you understandAh, don't you know me after all these years?
Oh, love, I hate to disappoint youBut there's something you should know
This is not the center of the universeThat's alright with meThis is not the center of the universeBut it's where I wanna be
I will be with you everywhere you goIn gentle breezes that caress your skinAnd you will see me in the silent snowIn everything that comes around again
Oh, love, I'll always be beside youWherever you may roamSomeday, with all the stars to guide youYou will find your way back home
This is not the center of the universeThat's alright with meThis is not the center of the universe
I CAN'T FIND THIS ONLINE - OR AT LEAST A VIDEO THAT WORKS PROPERLY - SO HERE IS A BERNIE LEADON SONG CALLED "CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE" THAT IS NOT THE SAME SONG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY4gEvJ0-a8
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 14:05 (ten years ago) link
listened to it on Grooveshark. It's an "emotive" vocal by Henley over an acoustic guitar arpeggio and a woodblock. Frey joins him on the choruses. Strings eventually show up & what sounds like accordion in the 2nd chorus. To be fair, it isn't that bad: it's mildly pretty. But it drags like no one's business. "Spanish" guitar solo & wordless harmonies towards the end, the latter in hock to the Beatles' "Because."
― col, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
"Center of The Universe": Beatles by way of CSN in a sterile room. col otm, mildly pretty, drags, but basically unoffensive.
Bernie's "Center of The Universe": What indie also-rans does this sound like? Seems like this would have been on album getting 4/5 Stars in Uncut circa 2003. Also: WOODBLOCK
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
are we done? really?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 19:33 (ten years ago) link
One more.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
i'm so tired of the eagles
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:01 (ten years ago) link
I would like to take this opportunity to thank this thread for introducing me to Gene Clark's "No Other", which pretty much sons anything the Eagles ever did, 'cept maybe "Those Shoes". Also nominating Don Felder for Eagles MVP
― sheesh, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
well, babe, they've hated us longer than we've been alive.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:02 (ten years ago) link
yeah gene clark is amazing
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:03 (ten years ago) link
i feel like Bernie was the heart of it. He wasn't the most important member or whatever but yeah I dunno. something about his whole boho folk surfer vibe was cool
Also nominating Don Felder for Eagles MVP
Yeah, if there's one thing this thread taught me is that the parts of the Eagles I've always liked, still like, have something Felder in them.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:12 (ten years ago) link
guitarists made the eagles. from beginning to end. without those guys i don't know what the hell they would have been. drippy loggins & messina wannabes.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:18 (ten years ago) link
yeah they were blessed they had 3 really fucking great players
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
Kinda want to go back and find some live 70s stuff of "Witchy Woman" with Felder on it.
Might do that... later.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:19 (ten years ago) link
pplains there's a cool-down period on eagles bootlegs, it's like buying a gun.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
no, a gun you can buy inexpensively at Walmart whenever you want. You can even buy it just because you hate a family member.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
Just like Long Road Out of Eden!
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
yes, that's correct.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:29 (ten years ago) link
guitarists and other songwriters not in the band i guess to be more accurate.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:31 (ten years ago) link
i'll bet if you ask old jd souther he'll tell you he gave those guys a lot of free "advice" when they were writing songs. get him all coked up and before you know it he's written half an album for you. wakes up doesn't know where he is and there's a "property of glenn & don" tattoo on his ass.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:33 (ten years ago) link
this is so otm. it's shocking how much Frey and Henley got away with w/their 2nd-rate talents. Having three top-notch guitarists to enliven their songwriting blahs; having JD Souther and Tempchin on retainer, essentially; having a producer who was able to make even their crummiest stuff sound professional at least. But man, they were the world's most evil singles band.
― col, Wednesday, 13 November 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
yeah I shudder to think what they would have been like without leadon, walsh & felder
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:10 (ten years ago) link
^^Frey: Working at Guitar CenterHenley: Low-level Texas politico
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:12 (ten years ago) link
henley: curator of the Henry Thoreau Strip Mall and Museum
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:14 (ten years ago) link
Frey: Doing 10-15 in the Michigan state pen
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:15 (ten years ago) link
Is Walsh that good a guitarist and songwriter? He's fun. He relieves the tedium.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:18 (ten years ago) link
walsh is a bitchin guitarist imo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:21 (ten years ago) link
"Rocky Mountain Way" and "Life's Been Good" are better than the entire Eagles catalog, imo. & haven't even heard many of his albums
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:24 (ten years ago) link
james gang are so far beyond eagles album-wise. they made great albums. rich, varied rock albums. great songs, great arrangements.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:27 (ten years ago) link
Walsh in James Gang was like a roaming wild lion vs caged sad lion in Eagles
he's still great but I don't think Frey and Henley let Walsh do even half of what he was clearly able to do prior to joining them
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:29 (ten years ago) link
translate that however you like to make it readable :/
Cool! You guys have given me good Spotify notes.
And, yeah, I love LBG and RMY.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:30 (ten years ago) link
James Gang Rides Again is really amazing, such a great groove band, killer rhythm section...also as skot says more varied than you think, side B has a lot of folky pretty stuff w/ornate arrangements
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:32 (ten years ago) link
There's got to be something said for the fact that it's Walsh who's energizing not just the latest reunion shows, but the current fanbase as well. It's the largest-selling American band of all time and it leans hard on a decent musician of, say, Mark Knopfler's caliber to light it up. It just seems a little backwards, a little tail wagging the dog.
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:50 (ten years ago) link
yeah, Eagles are the kind of band where if a fan won a "lunch w/ Don Henley" they'd be like: "can I trade for Walsh?"
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:55 (ten years ago) link
And it's Joe Walsh! Not Lindsay Buckingham or David Gilmour.
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 00:57 (ten years ago) link
You rang?
http://www.music.lt/images/groups/3/2977/David_Gilmour/jpg_3.jpg
― carl agatha, Thursday, 14 November 2013 01:03 (ten years ago) link
Sorry just thought scott and I could fangirl out over hot young David Gilmour for a minute.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 14 November 2013 01:04 (ten years ago) link
Lemme know if it's time for pictures of hot young Robert Plant.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 14 November 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
it's always time for gilmour/plant hotfest
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 03:12 (ten years ago) link
Ladies, but Glenn is only going to be yours for one more day.
http://i984.photobucket.com/albums/ae326/HueyLewisandEaglesfan/Glenn%20Frey/GFreyCiao.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
I feel like those eyes are giving me retinal cancer with just the merest glance at his horrible visage
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 03:25 (ten years ago) link
Have we made mention of Don Felder's contributions to the Heavy Metal soundtrack?
Heavy Metal (Takin' a Ride)All of You
Heavy Metal features Henley and Schmidt on background vox...sounds pretty good, very well could have been a latter-day Eagles track, and real talk even if he isn't as good as Henley, Felder is every bit as good a singer as Glen Frey, I mean why not just let the guy sing Victim of Love for chrissakes. What assholes.
All of You sounds like the Alan Parsons Project, which personally I will take over the Eagles most days of the week. Pretty good illustration of what Felder brought to the table anyway, besides the killer guitar playing.
― sheesh, Thursday, 14 November 2013 03:31 (ten years ago) link
More evidence for Felder's MVP status:
http://youtu.be/ISdr6wf68Kk
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 03:45 (ten years ago) link
i will love Felder forever for Heavy Metal
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link
"It's Your World Now"
http://images.coveralia.com/audio/t/The_Eagles-Long_Road_Out_Of_Eden-Interior_Trasera.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ytlsHhIQA
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 13:59 (ten years ago) link
http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/replicate/EXID23498/images/Eagles_044_BackCover.jpg
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:00 (ten years ago) link
finally, a mariachi song for old white people to dance to on their anniversary vomit cruise
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:06 (ten years ago) link
well, it's the Eagles' world, we only live in it.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
there's actually a christmas song at the end of the deluxe version of this album...
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
what a note on which the end the work week!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:36 (ten years ago) link
I'd do it all again/ if I could somehow...no, the world couldn't take that, Frey
I'd like to believe this is it: the last word and farewell from the worst band in the universe, finally leaving the stage with their roadies hauling off sacks of money. But they'll probably be back in 2016 with an exclusive 30-track download from Amazon.
It's fitting they go out with a easy-listening mariachi that sounds like something my grandmother listened to in the '60s. It's an act of grace, almost: Frey sending us back to a time before his music existed.
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
So gonna make a mash-up again of the Warriors final scene and this one, brb.
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
Aw damn. Got up from my desk and a coworker noticed I had a pulse. Guess I do technically still have a life. No mash-up today.
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
& scott, thanks so much for diligently finding these all these songs and photos. I can't imagine this was a pleasant task.
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:39 (ten years ago) link
I was thinking this ^^^. Not one day missed since this whole thread began.
Feel free to set your feet up, SS. You know, take it easy while you still can.
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
he's already gone!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:43 (ten years ago) link
no i'm here. but i feel like i should post the xmas song tomorrow! i wish i didn't have to.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
oh and this song sucks.
didn't we do the xmas song? it's the "please come for xmas" cover, right? There's another one?
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:44 (ten years ago) link
one thing i learned is that for the most part eagles pictures are pretty much as boring as eagles themselves. so hard to find interesting ones. all the band shots are so generic.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
Thanks for doing this, Scott. It strengthened my appreciation for some songs, and made me realize beyond any shadow of a doubt that it is Henley, and not Frey, who is the stubborn, disturbingly pungent urine stain on the toilet that is the Eagles' oeuvre.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
oh wait maybe we did! i thought it was a new xmas one.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:46 (ten years ago) link
Let's remember the happier times. If there is one single justification for the Eagles' existence, it's this:http://youtu.be/1r0QteIu_uA
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
i mean i know we did the hole one.
Bonus tracks on the Deluxe Collector's Edition[edit]"Hole in the World" (Don Henley, Glenn Frey) – 4:13*"Please Come Home for Christmas" (Charles Mose Brown, Gene C. Redd) – 2:58
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:47 (ten years ago) link
take it to the limit is a good song.
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:48 (ten years ago) link
yeah, i think we did it: it's the single sleeve where the desperadoes are sitting around an LA swimming pool w/xmas decorations. pre-Long Run.
you're free man! walk out into the sunlight.
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
we need another Henley-Frey exchange
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
Well...
― carl agatha, Thursday, 14 November 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
yeah.
(Is there gonna be anything left?) Only stardust (maybe tomorrow)
― Brad C., Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
What? This is finished already?! Well done you troupers, well done. Sorry I had to bale after the 70s, but I can't deny I've enjoyed the last three weeks the most.
Time to make up the real Greatest Hits.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
I still hate this band only now I can explain why more coherently. Thanks Scott!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
thing is, I don't think this survey changes anything. The only decent stuff they ever did was the singles. I can't think of one album track I'd promote over any track on either hits comp.
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:28 (ten years ago) link
I've been working on it a bit, I reckon I could put together a ten-tracker, though there might have to be a little duplication. Stay tuned.
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
My GH compilation:
Journey of the SorcererAlready GoneI Can't Tell You Why
― carl agatha, Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
Mine would be the same, but I'd add "Take It To The Limit." That way, it can be released as two 45s: GH Vol 1, GH Vol 2.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:42 (ten years ago) link
ok, my all-time Eagles hits comp.:
Already GoneWitchay WomanOne of These NightsBitter CreekTake It To the Limit (Etta James version)Hotel California (new mix w/Henley vocal reduced to a murmur, guitars pushed up)The Long RunThese ShoesNew Kid in Town
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 15:50 (ten years ago) link
Congratulations, you guys! It's been a pleasure observing this from the sidelines and you all deserve participation trophies or t-shirts or something.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:26 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/I9NUvYS.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
not having to listen to an Eagles song tomorrow is reward enough
― col, Thursday, 14 November 2013 16:33 (ten years ago) link
omg pplains!
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 14 November 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
pplains that is awesome
I kinda fell off the wagon with the last album, but the majority that I participated in was super fun (within the context of subjecting oneself to listening to the Eagles every day)
scott you get some kind of major award for your commitment and awesomeness
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 14 November 2013 19:43 (ten years ago) link
a heroic effort from the start, scott. this thread should be in the internet hall of fame. and you should reward yourself with some vintage 1969 spirits and some colitas.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:14 (ten years ago) link
also i would like to request that the final two words on this thread, whenever it is irreversibly done, be "well" and "yeah." and then the thread should be locked.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:15 (ten years ago) link
DON: We're very flattered that a bunch of guys on the 'net wanna spend talking about her catalog. It's about time we got our due.
GLENN: Like the time you thought Stevie Nicks was due?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:16 (ten years ago) link
hey all! we did it. i'll never forget the people i served with, we are bound by unseen scars we carry.
well this last song is completely fucking vapid and boring, a fitting end. this last double album was just dreadful to get through, it's pretty damn hard to make an album this bad. in a way i almost hate all these type of songs, the just dull generic shit more than the really bad stuff because at least the bad stuff ends up being kinda fun to make fun of how shitty it all is.
the 70s was fun though! they were really a window into a world that is gone now, the whole shitty curdled coke addled hippie dream drying out and dying in the sand, then having its corpse carted off in a private jet.
thanks bernie, don, and joe, without out your tasty licks i don't know if i could have done it.
didn't like the eagles before, not i can genuinely say i hate them. what fucking frauds, it disgusts me that this bunch is sometimes spoken of as "classic" rock or a great band. they are pathetic turds compared to so many other artists that operated in their general milieu.
still a few songs that aren't ruined, hotel california, one of these nights, already gone, but still looking back it's remarkable how shitty every one of their albums was.
fuck, man...the eagles.
well,yeah.
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link
get over it!
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:26 (ten years ago) link
(lol)
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:27 (ten years ago) link
i don't know whether to blame my son and his minecraft networking or those friggin' dodgy russian music sites that had eagles songs on them for all the malware and trojan backdoors my laptop has been experiencing. kinda think i'll just blame the eagles.
that last album was sorta this band's way of saying: oh you thought you had it bad BEFORE...we'll show ya...
― scott seward, Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:34 (ten years ago) link
haha you got computer vd from don and glenn
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:39 (ten years ago) link
DON: A lot has happened since that summer of 1971. It is amazing and gratifying that so many people, all over the world, still love these songs and come out in droves to hear us play them. I live in Texas now, and sometimes, late at night, when I’m pushing the cart around the supermarket, I’ll hear one of our records and think, “I left here 33 years ago, did all that, and here I am back again… now, what did I come here to buy?”
GLENN: Valtrex, dummy.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link
"It's Your World Now": Somebody's been listening to the Mavericks! Yes, It's our world now, hopefully one with less Eagles music.
Scott, you are a hero. There should be a section of trees in Walden dedicated just to you.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 November 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link
W___, y___.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:05 (ten years ago) link
There should be a selection of trees ripped from Walden in Henley's private Texas forest for you.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:08 (ten years ago) link
^^You just have to get past Henley's Private Bear Security Force to claim them
"Come and get 'em, bitch!"
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:16 (ten years ago) link
Here they are.
http://www.thegreenhead.com/imgs/no-crank-hose-reel-1.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
can someone find the first appearance of "Well, yeah" on this thread?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:23 (ten years ago) link
A Good Day In Hell - The Official ILM Track-By-Track EAGLES Listening Thread ?
― pplains, Thursday, 14 November 2013 21:37 (ten years ago) link
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:03 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
gotta wonder if Bernie thought going in that he was going to be the driving force of the Eagles when they started out. He had the impressive credentials, he had three songwriting credits on their first album vs. on mere co-write from Henley.
― Lee626, Friday, 15 November 2013 01:21 (ten years ago) link
it's shocking how much Frey and Henley got away with w/their 2nd-rate talents. [ . . . . ] , having a producer who was able to make even their crummiest stuff sound professional at least.
― col, Wednesday, November 13, 2013 3:52 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Even there, their instincts were just awful. Recall how their sophomore album tanked upon initial release, and their third album's singles were treading for water too ("James Dean") until "Best of My Love", the third single from the LP, topped the charts. "Best of My Love" was one of the two songs they recorded for On The Border produced by Glyn Johns before they sacked him because they wanted to get away from that country-rock sound he favored, the sound that broke them huge.
― Lee626, Friday, 15 November 2013 01:23 (ten years ago) link
In the wild: "The Sad Cafe" on jukebox auto play in a diner.
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 16 November 2013 07:03 (ten years ago) link
Fitting.
― carl agatha, Saturday, 16 November 2013 15:00 (ten years ago) link
I'm sure this is somewhere on this thread but a friend posted it on FB and i thought it was appropriate:
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 16 November 2013 16:39 (ten years ago) link
I still think we should do Styx
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:50 (ten years ago) link
I'm ready for 1977-1986 Elton!
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:51 (ten years ago) link
Bring on Billy Joel
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:52 (ten years ago) link
I think you three are still seeing the stars and not seeing the light.
― pplains, Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:53 (ten years ago) link
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 November 2013 14:54 (ten years ago) link
How about Loverboy?
― lorde willin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:04 (ten years ago) link
I think you should just keep doing this thread, over and over again, forever.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
"You can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave."
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_x2TThMsyaYA/TRtu_Gk-pRI/AAAAAAAAFrA/uNQ6PYPzOv0/s1600/no%2Bexit.jpeg
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
DON: I've always admired existenalism and Jean-Paul Sartre. It really spoke to us as these L.A. translants.
GLENN: It musta been fiction. Henley, you ever head of a "respectful" prostitute?
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 November 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3532/3184470110_13928069f9_z.jpg
― col, Thursday, 21 November 2013 16:48 (ten years ago) link
Some of you still suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.
http://i.imgur.com/tovyqie.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 21 November 2013 16:49 (ten years ago) link
that picture, wow, just 100% pure, uncut Henley. Terrifying
― intheblanks, Thursday, 21 November 2013 17:12 (ten years ago) link
don't need image of "uncut Henley" thx
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 03:46 (ten years ago) link
D:
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 04:20 (ten years ago) link
"The Last Worthless Foreskin"
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 05:30 (ten years ago) link
Johnny Come Lately, the foreskin in town
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 27 November 2013 08:17 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/X3z6doo.jpg
― sheesh, Thursday, 28 November 2013 05:57 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild:
Last night eating alone at a sandwich place, their Xmas song came on right after 'Santa Baby'
― yes, i have seen the documentary (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 30 November 2013 19:03 (ten years ago) link
Heard "Already Gone" the other day. It's a song I've always confused/conflated with "Take it Easy," but it occurred to me that, you know, I really don't mind "Already Gone." Not written by any of the Eagles, of course. Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlcOs3fCN3M
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 November 2013 21:44 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild: stopped at a gas station late at night, and "Heartache Tonight" was playing in the background.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 30 November 2013 22:02 (ten years ago) link
That's ominous!
― yes, i have seen the documentary (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 30 November 2013 22:17 (ten years ago) link
"I'm gonna have to Fill Up Tonight/Fill Up Tonight I know..."
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 November 2013 22:40 (ten years ago) link
more like a shitty cap to a terrible holiday. Gawd, is it too much ask for Henley & Frey to lose all their money in a ponzi scheme or something? They'll make it back anyway - but just a financial punch to the gut.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 30 November 2013 22:44 (ten years ago) link
Y'know, I don't know if I've heard any wild Eagles even once since this thread started - certainly none since Labour Day. Other than a few seconds of "Hotel California" during the occasional "Q-107 plays the classics!" commercial. Guess I should get out more.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 30 November 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
I just assume "Hotel California" is always playing somewhere on the radio.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 30 November 2013 23:57 (ten years ago) link
It woke me up on my clock radio the other day. I slammed the whole thing off instead of snooze, thinking "No one should begin a day like that."
We were late.
― pplains, Sunday, 1 December 2013 01:05 (ten years ago) link
Oh shit, "Hotel California" is Houston's third favorite/greatest Classic Rock song according to this listener countdown on air as I type.
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2013 02:42 (ten years ago) link
STH or FB #1?
― pplains, Monday, 2 December 2013 02:57 (ten years ago) link
FB #2 STH #1 HJ #4
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link
Layla @ 5 would be my guess.
― pplains, Monday, 2 December 2013 06:18 (ten years ago) link
Layla was #28. YSMANL by AC/DC #5
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2013 06:49 (ten years ago) link
HJ #4
when did that become the go-to beatles song for the top 10 of a classic rock countdown? didn't the automatic top beatles entry used to be ADITL? what happened america??? or is this just a houston thing?
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 2 December 2013 07:50 (ten years ago) link
As leader of the ILX Floyd faction, did CN get into the top 10?
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 2 December 2013 07:59 (ten years ago) link
IIRC, HJ actually ended up being the Beatles biggest single in America. ADITL is #32 on this list. As for the Floyd, CN is #34, but ABITW2 was #6.
Here's the list: http://www.937thearrow.com/pages/2013Top500.pdf
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2013 09:03 (ten years ago) link
At least Walsh's RMY finished higher #165 than the next highest Eagles song: LITFL at #178
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 2 December 2013 09:22 (ten years ago) link
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, December 2, 2013 2:50 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
WLS in Chicago (not a "classic rock" station, because that marketing term didn't exist yet) in the late 70s/early 80s used to a "Top 500 of All Time" countdown every Memorial Day weekend. For years it was a foregone conclusion that "Hey Jude" would be #1; "Stairway" finally hit #1 in 1986, despite rarely being played on that station.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 December 2013 14:49 (ten years ago) link
"Hey Jude" was at the time the longest song to hit No. 1. One of the best compromises between Top 40 and AOR stations.
ACDC makes perfect sense at No. 5. I guessed Layla since the other four songs in the Top 5 all top the six-minute mark, if not much more so.
― pplains, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link
(I can't stand "Hey Jude" though. "Hotel California" 100 times past that one for me.)
― pplains, Monday, 2 December 2013 15:15 (ten years ago) link
this classic rock part of the conversation reads like total insanity
but it's insanity i understand. i grew up listening to cleveland rock radio and i know hey jude was always on because as a child i was plagued with an earworm that somehow melted mr rogers' "won't you be my neighbor" with the better better better better waaaah part of HJ. won't you be my neighbor neighbor neighbor neighbor waaaah, na na na na na na na na and so on.
for basically my entire life. cursed!
and it seems only fitting that this little anecdote was brought to you by the eagles.
― sweat pea (La Lechera), Monday, 2 December 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2013 15:23 (ten years ago) link
Naaa na na
na-na-na-naaa...
na-na-na-naaaa...
well, yeah.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 December 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
On closer inspectiong, there's no solo Frey on that list. The H is definitely not O.
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
i totally get the hugeness in its time of HJ and i've got nothing in particular against the song. but i remember rock and, later, classic rock stations adopting ADITL as the essential beatles multilayered epic "statement" song, kind of like HC, which in its time was not particularly bigger than any of the other eagles #1's (all of which, including HC, topped the chart for exactly one week, no more). HHJ strikes me as more power ballad than multilayered epic statement and, therefore, a less likely choice for classic rock radio countdown canonization.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:06 (ten years ago) link
"HJ strikes me...," that is. "HHJ" would, i guess, be the 12-inch remix.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:12 (ten years ago) link
ghosts of eagles in the wild: i keep hearing songs in random places that sound like they're going to turn into "witchy woman" but then they don't. today it was an african song playing behind the dj on "morning becomes eclectic." saturday it was one of the marching bands at the ucla/usc game.
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:29 (ten years ago) link
That thread scarred me. I feel like I was off the Ho Chi Minh trail fighting Vietcong.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
final score:JW 3DH 2GF 0
i'm ok with that!
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:36 (ten years ago) link
(xp) yes! my unstated subtext was "i have post thread stress syndrome. please help me."
― i play too fast (which is the sign of an amateur) (fact checking cuz), Monday, 2 December 2013 19:39 (ten years ago) link
Xp I was surprised at ANL's placement, as I rarely heard it on any classic rock radio around here despite it featuring heavily in our one-time official movie.
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 2 December 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
Withy Woman would be a miserable slog as marching band music. Except the part where the drums are cool, I guess.
― carl agatha, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link
I took aerobics with my mom in the 80s and "all she wants to do is dance" and "the heat is on" both figured prominently in the playlists for one of the classes. Both songs put me in mind of white hightop Reeboks and the aerobics move known as "the pony."
― carl agatha, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link
GF 0?
More like GTF0, ami rite
― pplains, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:46 (ten years ago) link
And for the record:
77 | James Gang | Funk #49
― pplains, Monday, 2 December 2013 20:48 (ten years ago) link
if this were a perfect world that song would be top 10
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 21:14 (ten years ago) link
The classic rock canon poll is going to be such a fun slapfight.
― Servings Per Container: 736 (WilliamC), Monday, 2 December 2013 21:29 (ten years ago) link
as long as everyone doesn't abbreviate all the songs so I don't get confused about what we're talking about
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 December 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
Wow, both the Beatles and Jimi Hendrix did HJ, awesome.
― pplains, Monday, 2 December 2013 21:36 (ten years ago) link
but seriously, that's gonna be my new thing to get insomnia over, trying to find the longest identical set of initials between two popular but unrelated songs.
― pplains, Monday, 2 December 2013 21:38 (ten years ago) link
I wondered why there was a discussion about Ronnie Lane's "How Come" on the Eagles thread.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 2 December 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link
http://thequietus.com/articles/14176-vince-clarke-erasure-favourite-albums?page=8
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 19 December 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
CLARKE: I got into The Eagles late, about 1990 or something. I started hearing them a lot on the radio, I'd known their songs but hadn't paid any attention to them in any detail. Then when I started listening to them properly, I thought, "Yeah man, that's pretty damn cool".
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 December 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link
vocals aside, about half of 'building the perfect beast' sounds like an erasure premonition
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 20 December 2013 00:02 (ten years ago) link
EAGLES IN THE WILLLLLD for my first time since thread start!
"Lyin 'eyes" on satellite tv 70s-rock station now playing while visiting with friends & in-laws
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Friday, 27 December 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link
I heard "Take It Easy" at the local pizza restaurant on Monday.
Not exactly Eagles but the local hipster coffee shop (which usually never has music) has just recently started piping in Pandora or something -- on Christmas Eve they were blasting "All She Wants To Do Is Dance" and one of the girl baristas was trying to get the boy barista to dance with her. He (correctly) refused.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 27 December 2013 03:10 (ten years ago) link
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/booty-call-director-jeffrey-pollack-667682
He was dressed in jogging clothes and carrying an iPod, which was still playing the Eagles when the police arrived. Hermosa Beach police captain Tommy Thompson told EasyReaderNews.com that police do not suspect foul play, and it is believed Pollack died of natural causes while exercising. He was an avid runner and softball player.
GLENN: Ouch.
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 27 December 2013 05:02 (ten years ago) link
The Short Run
― pplains, Friday, 27 December 2013 05:56 (ten years ago) link
Somewhat of an Eagles in the wild sighting:
I was in the Whole Foods in Pasadena and their vinyl section (yes, Whole Foods out here sells vinyl) was highlighting The Wall, Adele and Gaga's first albums, and Hotel California.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 27 December 2013 09:49 (ten years ago) link
Holy shit, Barney Hoskyns Hotel California is amazing--hard to say who in the whole cast of characters is the most awful
― Iago Galdston, Friday, 27 December 2013 13:38 (ten years ago) link
i would kickstarter a grisly tell all from behind the scenes of these dudes in the 90s. surely there are still guys out there working today who would spill about the experience of recording "get over it"that would be super funny
― mambo jumbo (La Lechera), Friday, 27 December 2013 16:07 (ten years ago) link
man, what a sad death (mentioned a few posts up). The idea that the last sound you will ever hear in this life is "James Dean" is such an awful thought.
― col, Friday, 27 December 2013 17:49 (ten years ago) link
Heard a song of theirs on the radio on Christmas, but I can't remember which one. Hopefully my brain is selectively deleting memories of me hearing the Eagles.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 28 December 2013 15:31 (ten years ago) link
eagle in the not-so-wild: don henley covering billy joel's "she's got a way" at the kennedy center honors. not a particularly good day in hell.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 December 2013 07:37 (ten years ago) link
Shoulda done "We Didn't Start The Fire".
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 December 2013 07:39 (ten years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 30 December 2013 07:43 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild: heard "Take It To The Limit" on the oldies station. Normally, who gives a shit, but it was part of old Casey Kasem year-end countdowns, which are far more interesting to listen to than I would've thought. It beat out "Theme from S.W.A.T."!
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 31 December 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Funky New Year Time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGPH7w8LoOo
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 1 January 2014 20:53 (ten years ago) link
http://cbsla.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/eagles.jpg
World’s Largest Vinyl Record Mounted Atop The Forum In Inglewood
INGLEWOOD (CBSLA.com) — Angelenos may know it as the former home of the Lakers and Kings, but starting in 2014, it’s unofficially the “Hotel California”.The Forum in Inglewood has been fitted with what organizers billed as the world’s largest vinyl record in honor of multi-platinum band The Eagles, who will perform at the Forum later this month as part of the venue’s re-opening celebration.Passengers on roughly 1,700 flights arriving daily at LAX throughout January will be able to see the 407-foot-wide printed vinyl disc – which actually spins at 17 miles per hour and was constructed by a crew of over 75 workers – in honor of the venue’s $100 million renovation effort, according to officials.
The Forum in Inglewood has been fitted with what organizers billed as the world’s largest vinyl record in honor of multi-platinum band The Eagles, who will perform at the Forum later this month as part of the venue’s re-opening celebration.
Passengers on roughly 1,700 flights arriving daily at LAX throughout January will be able to see the 407-foot-wide printed vinyl disc – which actually spins at 17 miles per hour and was constructed by a crew of over 75 workers – in honor of the venue’s $100 million renovation effort, according to officials.
― Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
the sad after-effect of this is the poor sadsacks who see it and say, "wow that must be a really great album for it to be featured so prominently, I should get a copy"
(hopefully there aren't many of these ppl)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:31 (ten years ago) link
that must be a really great album for it to be featured so prominently
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 2 January 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link
and was constructed by a crew of over 75 workers
"Hey, I heard you got a new job! Congratulations! What do you do?"
"I...I'd rather not talk about it."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:01 (ten years ago) link
made of recycled returned eagles records
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link
have we ever discussed how loathsome this photo is?
http://www.eaglesfans.com/storage/choke.JPG?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1336335092257
L to R: Frey's false, forced hilarity; Joe Walsh dreaming of margaritas; Henley thinking "God, I ate these assholes"; Schmitt counting ants on the sidewalk to tell his wife later.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:07 (ten years ago) link
lol "ate"
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:20 (ten years ago) link
i hate henley's white goatee/dyed hair combo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:21 (ten years ago) link
GLENN: It's not just a fake strangling, it's an EAGLES fake strangling.
― Maintenance Engineer of Foolhardiness (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:21 (ten years ago) link
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:23 (ten years ago) link
<3
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 January 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link
Schmitt counting ants on the sidewalk to tell his wife later.
huge lol at this
― balls, Friday, 3 January 2014 00:42 (ten years ago) link
huge lol also at this being something to spark a revival for the forum (which i had no idea was still standing tbh) - were they missing many bookings cuz ppl were asking 'what eagles album you guys got on yr roof?'
― balls, Friday, 3 January 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link
for appropriate lols it should really be Hell Freezes Over , let's be real
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 3 January 2014 00:45 (ten years ago) link
huge lol also at this being something to spark a revival for the forum (which i had no idea was still standing tbh)
It's still hanging in there. I saw Prince there in 2011 and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 3 January 2014 02:55 (ten years ago) link
Eagles Guitarist -- Internet Be Damned ... I Still Buy Porn Mags!!!
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 9 January 2014 21:17 (ten years ago) link
"The H(ard) Is O(n)"
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 January 2014 21:18 (ten years ago) link
DON: For a lot of people, we lead a golden life. But we get urges just like everybody else.
GLENN: Sometimes even the best of us porks it when the kids are in school.
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2014 21:20 (ten years ago) link
Wait'll he finds out those chicks aren't packing 'Eagle Nests' downstairs anymore.
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 January 2014 21:26 (ten years ago) link
man, must have been a slow paparazzi day if they're following Glenn Frey around
― col, Thursday, 9 January 2014 22:07 (ten years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/LQHps6K.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kVVTIHM.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/HhTYlRe.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 9 January 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link
xxpost on good authority Felder tipped them off
― Master of Treacle, Thursday, 9 January 2014 23:04 (ten years ago) link
Now we really know what happened next in the narrative of the "Sexy Girl" video after the track faded.
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 9 January 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
Eagles in the wild: "Tequila Sunrise" playing at the sales conference I am currently being held hostage at. Fuck everything about this situation.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 10 January 2014 03:10 (ten years ago) link
COMMENTS SECTION MEGAMIX
He purchased the January 2014 issue of XL Girls Magazine featuring Sofia Rose on the cover. The DVD included was Large Lovin' by The SCORE Group.He likes them big, ALL Plump - All Stacked - All NaturalIts pitiful that this guy, an amazing musician, great singer, one hell of a good song writer, a pretty good actor and someone that's used his celebrity to help others all over the world, and some piece of **** paparazzi hides across the street and takes a picture so that this site can trash him. What a waste of space this article is and serves no purpose other than to damage Glenn Frey.Men who buy porn are just nasty.Perv.I feel sorry for the guy. We all look at porn. But I know some people will see this and think of Glenn as some old pervert or something.Come on TMZ... you believe this is newsworthy? More like attempted character assassination. Glenn is a human being who has brought a lot of joy to many lives. Maybe we should send photogs around to "do***ent" the life of your photogs! I'm quite sure that they would look a whole lot worse.Compassion-for-Glen-Committee:Having sex when you're North of 50?Isn't the same.As having sex when you're SOUTH of 40.Then Glen just snaps his fingers.Every babe in Brentwood comes running.Half-the-dudes.I guess looking at porn is like listening to music, some prefer digital, while others stick with classic vinyl.This guy is a complete douchbag. If you saw the Eagles retrospective that's been on lately, you will hear him say something to the effect of "we were bigger than the beetles." Really? The Eagles? nothing but sappy pop ballads. They would have been nothing without walsh and henley.Judging by what mag he's buying, I'd say Glenn and I have the same taste in women. Well played, sir. The Dude may have hated the f'n Eagles, but you now have my respect.F U TMZ that was a great issue. I personally yanked to it at least ten times...be right back...make that eleven times.
Its pitiful that this guy, an amazing musician, great singer, one hell of a good song writer, a pretty good actor and someone that's used his celebrity to help others all over the world, and some piece of **** paparazzi hides across the street and takes a picture so that this site can trash him. What a waste of space this article is and serves no purpose other than to damage Glenn Frey.
Men who buy porn are just nasty.Perv.
I feel sorry for the guy. We all look at porn. But I know some people will see this and think of Glenn as some old pervert or something.
Come on TMZ... you believe this is newsworthy? More like attempted character assassination. Glenn is a human being who has brought a lot of joy to many lives. Maybe we should send photogs around to "do***ent" the life of your photogs! I'm quite sure that they would look a whole lot worse.
Compassion-for-Glen-Committee:Having sex when you're North of 50?Isn't the same.As having sex when you're SOUTH of 40.Then Glen just snaps his fingers.Every babe in Brentwood comes running.Half-the-dudes.
I guess looking at porn is like listening to music, some prefer digital, while others stick with classic vinyl.
This guy is a complete douchbag. If you saw the Eagles retrospective that's been on lately, you will hear him say something to the effect of "we were bigger than the beetles." Really? The Eagles? nothing but sappy pop ballads. They would have been nothing without walsh and henley.
Judging by what mag he's buying, I'd say Glenn and I have the same taste in women. Well played, sir. The Dude may have hated the f'n Eagles, but you now have my respect.
F U TMZ that was a great issue. I personally yanked to it at least ten times...be right back...make that eleven times.
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 January 2014 03:11 (ten years ago) link
some prefer vinyl porn
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 January 2014 03:13 (ten years ago) link
Eagles (sort of) in the wild: I listened to "On The Border" today completely of my own accord.
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 January 2014 03:13 (ten years ago) link
the bad guys always win
― the objections to Drake from non-REAL HIPHOP people (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 10 January 2014 03:16 (ten years ago) link
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 January 2014 03:19 (ten years ago) link
Got a certain Eagles song stuck in my head this morning (See Vine post. Warning: Some caterwauling involved.)
I'm still singing it in the car with kids - "Honey, you can't hide those changin' lights" - when I felt a force move within me. "Say, let's turn on the radio. I bet they're playing this song I'm singing."
Turn it on and -- it's the last sixteen bars of "Life In the Fast Lane". Not dead-on, but spooky nonetheless.
― pplains, Friday, 10 January 2014 14:19 (ten years ago) link
omg that Vine
― carl agatha, Friday, 10 January 2014 14:52 (ten years ago) link
Beeps made a good correction, instead of "Lion Pants", it should've been "Lion Butt".
She's a great song arranger, definitely the Glenn Frey of the family.
― pplains, Friday, 10 January 2014 15:15 (ten years ago) link
ahhhhhhhhhhh that is the best! i love it
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 January 2014 16:34 (ten years ago) link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2540893/Worlds-largest-vinyl-record-visible-air.html
― just (Matt P), Friday, 17 January 2014 18:56 (ten years ago) link
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/01/16/article-2540893-1AB759DE00000578-439_634x586.jpg
Such a lovely place.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 17 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link
good they accurately replicated the bloated length of "Last Resort" as LP closer track
― col, Friday, 17 January 2014 18:59 (ten years ago) link
haha col otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 January 2014 20:25 (ten years ago) link
good grief i hate this band.
― Daniel, Esq 2, Friday, 17 January 2014 20:31 (ten years ago) link
DON: Well, yeah
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 January 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link
I love how much I hate them, I hate how much I love them, it's like a Glenn Frey marriage
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Minus porn mags (w/free DVDs)?
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 January 2014 00:15 (ten years ago) link
minus? wtf do you mean minus porn, idgi
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 18 January 2014 00:19 (ten years ago) link
with porn, obv
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl),
http://static2.stuff.co.nz/1353537237/095/7984095.jpg
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 January 2014 02:58 (ten years ago) link
Check out the sex-face on this tortoise.
― bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 18 January 2014 10:31 (ten years ago) link
hahaha fuck this band
― davey, Saturday, 18 January 2014 13:12 (ten years ago) link
In The Wild: I'm in a Fuddrucker's and "All She Wants To Do Is Dance" fighting to be heard over the patrons.
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 January 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link
listened to the long run today
― balls, Saturday, 18 January 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link
it’s almost like when Pavement did “Crooked Rain,” we thought “We’re going to do the Eagles and Free, but like, indie rock. We’re going to see how much of this people can take, or how much we can take.” There’s a certain self-hate involved in it or something.
Did you come out of that with a new appreciation for the Eagles, or did you end up hating them a little bit more?
I still hate them. There’s too much — it’s not even the music. It’s kind of like “Graceland” for me, that album too. There’s levels of evil in it to me. We know what they are but I don’t want to go in print saying too much. Not the Eagles.
http://www.salon.com/2014/01/18/stephen_malkmus_i_still_hate_the_eagles/
― reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 January 2014 04:04 (ten years ago) link
DON: Have Stephen Milk...Malk...mus?--What the fuck kind of name is that?--Malk-mus? What is that, Polish or something? Anyway, have him killed.
GLENN: But first find out from him were the 'Summer Babes' are now! They don't like to be called 'Sexy Girls" anymore, you know.
― ...out of that weakness, out of that envy, out of that fear.. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 January 2014 05:07 (ten years ago) link
In the wild: I heard "I Can't Tell You Why" in a restaurant this morning (via Sirius 70s on 7 they use as muzak) and now I've just heard "The Long Run" in a grocery store.
― Virginia, Plain and Tall (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 18:05 (ten years ago) link
you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 4 March 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 4 March 2014 20:07 (ten years ago) link
http://www.mojo4music.com/12853/don-henley-blind-pilot-days/
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 20 March 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
The following came up as a "Sponsored Post" from Don Felder in my FB feed this morning:
Don’t forget that if you purchase a VIP package your meet & greet also gets you up close and personal with my guitars. Hope that’s some extra incentive to purchase a VIP package for #thesoundtrackofsummer.
Even the...double neck?
― Interior. Ibiza Bar (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 March 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
lol comment from his page:
I love you Don (like a brother, of coarse), but Newark NJ is the murder capital of the country. Please be careful going in & out of the gig. I'm going to have to pass. Maybe you should send Frey first to test the area out!
― Interior. Ibiza Bar (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 March 2014 18:06 (nine years ago) link
send photogs around to "do***ent" the life
this is way upthread, but lol at the needles censorship here. not sure whether this was self-policing by the commenter or the site it came from being overly aggressive with its filtering. either way, lol.
― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 March 2014 18:08 (nine years ago) link
It's ok Don you'll be fine without an open carry permit. I'm trying to get VIP tickets and meet Mr. Fingers.
― pplains, Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:06 (nine years ago) link
When threads collide:
http://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/t31.0-8/q74/s720x720/774505_415954158517582_523837914_o.jpg
― pplains, Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:09 (nine years ago) link
Think we've seen that one before, but oh no pretty mama, what they gonna do in those shirts.
― pplains, Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:10 (nine years ago) link
"Can we be shown pictures of weirdos with Mike Love and Don Felder's guitars?"
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:11 (nine years ago) link
felder = irl victim of Love
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
:D
No Henley & Mike photos? There truly is not enough Love in the world.
I'll show myself out...
― Interior. Ibiza Bar (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 March 2014 20:49 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: As I typed my post to the CVS obscure singles thread, the Jack In The Box muzak channel began playing "How Long".
― Interior. Ibiza Bar (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link
ew
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
DON: The industry sucks so bad that we're lucky when fans get to hear our music by whatever legal means at their disposal. I'm told "How Long" off our last album is a big CVS hit.
GLENN: "How long" is right -- 20 minutes on my last visit just to buy a pack of Trojans!
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 21:25 (nine years ago) link
I can just picture someone going to CVS to buy condoms and changing their mind after hearing 'How Long'
it's the perfect aural contraceptive
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
you just wrote and conceived the commercial!
― Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
Heard "Old '55" in Kroger yesterday ...
... but it was the Tom Waits version! Kroger, you never cease to amaze me.
― pplains, Monday, 21 April 2014 15:59 (nine years ago) link
If I had one ILM wish, it would be that I had been in this group when you did this, I would have been right with you people every torturous step of the way. Bless yr hearts, this thread brings me profound joy.
― Sandy, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
^^We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 April 2014 16:22 (nine years ago) link
also I need to say that I have a sleep disorder and I need to have something very familiar and bland and comforting on TV to help lull me to sleep and when the Eagles doc is on Showtime On Demand, it's my go-to soporific. Every single night.
― Sandy, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:31 (nine years ago) link
― everything I do is funky like Debussy (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, August 22, 2013 6:38 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― pplains, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:39 (nine years ago) link
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 April 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
I had to take a long drive through isolated backroads at 2am last weekend and for my soundtrack I chose The Complete Eagles Greatest Hits
perfect saccharine-creepy music for a creepy landscape
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 21 April 2014 17:12 (nine years ago) link
I went on a rare road trip to a company retreat last week. When I do so, I have to leave the Honda and its CD player behind and take the car with only a tape deck.
Went into the garage closet and boy, there was Greatest Hits Vols. 1 and 2 staring me in the face. The decision just hung in the musty air for a few moments.
But I wound up taking Anthrax Attack of the Killer Bs. Again, my cassette choices aren't as wide as they used to be.
― pplains, Monday, 21 April 2014 17:17 (nine years ago) link
http://classicsdujour.com/images/contestpage-felder.jpg
― how's life, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 12:36 (nine years ago) link
ILXOR 1: "Man, this thread sure does feel like the road to –"
ILXOR 2: "– well, yeah."
― pplains, Wednesday, 30 April 2014 13:19 (nine years ago) link
I'm watching the doc!
They just recorded Desperado. They still like each other. Don 'n' Glenn have said nice things about Bernie and Randy.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 4 May 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
Eagles in the wild: "I Can't Tell You Why" in Grocery Outlet. It felt right.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 4 May 2014 15:12 (nine years ago) link
breaking Ned Doheny reissue news:
http://www.aquariumdrunkard.com/2014/05/12/los-angeles-royalty-ned-dohenys-separate-oceans/
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
in the wild: ghastly solo Frey, "Soul Searchin'," playing in the supermarket
― col, Monday, 12 May 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
Numero should totally go after Longbranch Pennywhistle.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 12 May 2014 19:18 (nine years ago) link
He always imagined that a female singer would turn the song on its head – “some smoldering babe who coincidentally sings her ass off” – but it never happened
this totally happened and it rules
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 12 May 2014 21:40 (nine years ago) link
sorry prob more for doheny thread
― hug niceman (psychgawsple), Monday, 12 May 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
forgot he wrote Chaka's "What Cha’ Gonna Do For Me"!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 May 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
so...col and I wanna start a Rod Stewart 1976-1991 listening thread? You guys in?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 02:16 (nine years ago) link
JO-EL imo
― balls, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link
higher percentage of innaresting to terrible songs in the Rod discography imo
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 02:35 (nine years ago) link
I'd be down for Rod. That timeframe lines right up with where I lose track with him aside from some of the big hits. That Elton thread was fun, even if I followed way more than I partook.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:13 (nine years ago) link
I'd start Rod at 1974, generally regarded as the start of his post-classic period, or maybe '75 when he changed labels and moved to the US.
B. Joel though needs to start right at the beggining with the Hassels though.
― Lee626, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:24 (nine years ago) link
I have the Razor & Tie Hassles comp. They had some good tracks! And they set the stage for...
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bd6xxWdZdxo/SxSJMf6sYfI/AAAAAAAAF50/cNvgJ44JSt8/s400/Attila.jpg
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:27 (nine years ago) link
i can't muster any interest for rod
def will be on board if Billy Joel ever becomes a thing
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:28 (nine years ago) link
Meanwhile, over in Eagles-Land: I've been watching "China Beach" on the newly issued individual season dvd sets, and came upon this in the wiki section about the music edits they had to make:
Episode 187056, "Try and Love Again," Eagles, 2:00. Replaced with version of same song by Randy Meisner, who WROTE the song when he was IN THE EAGLES.
Capitalization not by me.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link
You all saw what I posted on the "photos of people together blah blah blah" thread, right?
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/10/article-2624890-1DB6794C00000578-186_634x508.jpg
Thought that was Uptown Girl for a sec, but it's the new Mrs. Howard Stern.
Feel like I should be recused from any decision made about the next thread if WMJ is in the running.
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:33 (nine years ago) link
joel has the potential to tell me something about american masculinity similar to the eagles. plus i had a job in this kitchen once where the chef literally only listened to out of order on repeat, turning what had been a small, perverse pleasure of mine into soulkilling torture. i don't think i could go there again. a little voice inside my head says 'don't look back, you can never look back'.
― balls, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:34 (nine years ago) link
An Eagles song on China Beach? That's pretty anachronistic, right? I mean, that show didn't exactly go on until the Fail of Saigon.
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
yeah i saw that pic and did a double take thinking it was brinkley also
― balls, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:35 (nine years ago) link
Weird how he surrounds himself with women who look like Christie Brinkley or himself.
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:36 (nine years ago) link
XP-The last season of "China Beach" used the then-novel fractured timeline conceit, with storylines taking place in the '60s, '70s and '80s.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:37 (nine years ago) link
how does china beach hold up? been tempted to watch it again. dana delaney. actually that might be an idea for a book club for ppl too lazy or stupid to read a book: 80s america comes to grips w/ vietnam pop culture. maybe stretch it to include apocalypse now/the deer hunter/coming home (maybe not coming home) at the beginning, and i dunno (jfk? JFK!) at the end, have tv episodes that used vietnam in some way as a plot point (yes i am thinking of miami vice here), watch a few representative or lolsome episodes of tour of duty, dl some cbrs of 'nam, get some stan ridgway and paul hardcastle playing, some bitusa (wait - i know what we end w/ - YEAH THEY COME TO KILL THE ROOSTER AW YEAH YKNOW HE AIN'T NEVER GONNA DIE NO').
― balls, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 03:47 (nine years ago) link
I do not remember the flash-forwards on China Beach at all!
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link
Dana Delaney walking around the subways in NYC, going to parties where's there's an actual hog's head in the refrigerator...
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link
YEAH THEY COME TO KILL THE ROOSTER AW YEAH YKNOW HE AIN'T NEVER GONNA DIE NO').
But it wasn't a rooster, it was really a baby!
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 04:08 (nine years ago) link
"China Beach" has held up fairly well. It gets too schmaltz-y at times, but overall it's been worth the effort. It seems like I've been going through a period of watching "TV that was on in my house went I went to bed as a child"--first "Crime Story", now CB, perhaps Hill Street next...
*I can imagine an '80s version of ile having a thread called 'dana delany - damn, damn, damn does this woman look good'
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 04:51 (nine years ago) link
i'm in if it's billy and it will potentially ruin my life for however long it takes to finish. rod stewart in the '80s strikes me as 15 percent fun, 85 percent torture. neither one of 'em is enough of an a) asshole, b) musician, c) weird icon and d) complete mystery to ever compete with the eagles though.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 05:10 (nine years ago) link
China Beach holds up because late 80s/early 90s Marg Helgenberger
― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 09:10 (nine years ago) link
I think Billy is more in the spirit of the eagles thread, I know it's post peak but I genuinely consider rod one of the greatest rock artists of all time
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:10 (nine years ago) link
The problem is I don't have many good things about Joel's accepted good songs.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:11 (nine years ago) link
Limiting Joel 1980-89 is the only way I could do this.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:12 (nine years ago) link
I do think we need an ILX thread that mentions Storm Front a thousand times.
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:38 (nine years ago) link
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:44 (nine years ago) link
how about mid-70s and on Santana?
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:45 (nine years ago) link
REO Speedwagon?
https://www.mostphotos.com/preview/311553/pretty-young-girl-with-a-shocked-expression.jpg
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 13:46 (nine years ago) link
I will say this, it's got to be all or nothing.
No any of this so-and-so from July 1972 to April 1986 or anything. We did the Eagles - B-sides included - from "Take It Easy" through The Long Road Out of Eden. I'm not going to be on my death bed thinking, Well, you know, I guess we didn't listen to every .38 Special song in that thread, now did we?
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:07 (nine years ago) link
You will die alone.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:09 (nine years ago) link
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
THIS. another point in joel's favor is that the catalog is finite and at the same time not much larger than the eagles considering. something like kiss or styx could be interesting but there we're looking at a situation where we get to a point where we think we're nearly done surely and it turns out we're only a quarter of the way thru (imagine if the post-reunion eagles had released twice as many albums as the pre-reunion). plus access might not be easy, all of wm. joel's work (well maybe not the pre-solo stuff) is readily accessible, on spotify, etc.
― balls, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:33 (nine years ago) link
styx could be interesting because weren't they some kinda weird corn-fed cod midwest fake prog thing at first? (i'm sure xhuck has written about this before)
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:37 (nine years ago) link
they're interesting in that they recorded not a single good hit.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
yeah there are prog elements (even their new wave move was a prog rock opera). you also get the interband feuding and dennis deyoung could hold his own in a douche off w/ joel, henley, frey, gene simmons. i'm just worried there's too many post-"peak" albums, this thread got so not as much fun when we hit the reunion years and styx had a top ten hit in 1990, i can't imagine they just decided to pack it up soon after that.
― balls, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:41 (nine years ago) link
just looked at Rush's discography, and man they never really slowed down
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:42 (nine years ago) link
Styx has four post-breakup/reunion records (and, inexplicably, eight live albums). If we do Styx, we should set a cutoff point.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:43 (nine years ago) link
being that they were from outside Chicago, "corn-fed" doesn't really do it. What's the Chicago version of "cornfed?" Kansas is pretty much the alpha and omega of cornfed prog.
but indeed Styx were midwest prog until Deyoung turned them into Manilow prog-metal, which of course Tommy no like, and then like more than a few acts that immediately preceded punk-new wave, half-heartedly took a hard left turn into devo-dom, re: "Mr Roboto" and "music time."
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:46 (nine years ago) link
alright, though I think LA hack-era Rod would be a fine and far more humane thread, I'm okay with Joel.
― col, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
joel really seems like the best choice. but I fear all lols will be tinged with a hint of klosterman.
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
OK OK enough: I'll listen to any B. Joel if it means no Styx.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:48 (nine years ago) link
If we do Joel, we're starting with Attila, right?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link
ugh. a vote for solo Joel only---otherwise you might as well include the 3 Hassles records too
― col, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
atilla owns the zone
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 15:23 (nine years ago) link
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:42 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
aside from maybe a slight lull in the 90s they've been pretty consistently good too
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
but they don't belong in this conversation imo
Aw, no Styx? No Attila?
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 15:28 (nine years ago) link
cross posted from the Led Zeppelin thread...Robert Plant throwing some amazing shade @the Eagles and Jimmy Page in his Rolling Stone interview
"Plant stands up to leave, but turns on his heel. "Do you know why the Eagles said they’d reunite when 'hell freezes over,' but they did it anyway and keep touring?” he asks. "It’s not because they were paid a fortune. It’s not about the money. It’s because they’re bored. I’m not bored."
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:08 (nine years ago) link
speaking of which, Robert Plant's entire solo catalog might kind of interesting
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
very few duds in Plant's solo catalog
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:32 (nine years ago) link
yeah mostly i just was looking on spotify and he's done way more records that i knew
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 17:48 (nine years ago) link
I would be up for participating in a Billy Joel listen-along. I'm not a huge fan but some people I know are and it would be interesting to see what all the hubbub is.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 18:02 (nine years ago) link
I mean, would the Eagles thread been annoying had there been this die-hard Eagles fan ILXor piping up for each song? Because I warn you, this is what's going to happen on a Joel thread.
― pplains, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
i'm a billy diehard and while i may be piping up for each song, i can assure you not all my piping will be positive. i mean he did, to take one random example, record -- and actually release -- "until the night."
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 18:47 (nine years ago) link
veronica kinda counts as a die-hard in the eagles listening thread, surely...she seemed to qualify as more of a fan than most of us, and it was kinda cool tbh
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 13 May 2014 19:15 (nine years ago) link
WELL wouldn't call myself a diehard but YEAH I find that act fascinating, eventually came around to loving a lot of their hits…
but the thing for me was getting that greatest hits update with the Crowe-conducted interviews 11 years ago, then a box of all their records from Rhino nine years ago…so my early walking around Ipod listening involved a lotta eagles and appreciating what they did well, recognizing that they indeed gargled dog balls at other times…Don's a lousy drummer, great singer, probly the most smug hypocritical guys to ever give a 15 year old girl so much coke to loosen her up that she ODed and called the pimp and said "this one is broken; send another" (I never get tired of mentioning that).
but I didn't listen to them shits every day last summer like you guys did… I don't think I'll have the commitment to listen to any of the guys you mention…
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 23:16 (nine years ago) link
kiss would be kinda good too. like the eagles, they're polarizing, they're driven by two colorful egomaniacs, they have issues with ex-band-members, they're not particularly well-liked by dave marsh, and have a pretty high little-known-album-tracks-to-hits ratio.
come to think of it, billy joel fits that description too, except for the two colorful egomaniacs part -- he isn't two, and he isn't all that colorful -- and his unknowns-to-hits ratio is probably lower.
but either would make a nice east coast counterpoint to the west coasters who started this.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 13 May 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
Kiss would be fun! That would have the (duuuuubious) benefit of a lot of excruciating songs.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 00:30 (nine years ago) link
billy joel fits that description too, except for the two colorful egomaniacs part -- he isn't two, and he isn't all that colorfu
sez you
http://makeagif.com/media/5-13-2014/nUYiIH.gif
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 02:17 (nine years ago) link
omg
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:04 (nine years ago) link
pplains otm
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:11 (nine years ago) link
Kiss has the perfect band dynamics and personalities, but unlike the Eagles where there were a handful of undeniably great tracks to look forward to mixed in with the crud, just about every Kiss song in depressingly mediocre or worse.
Joel would work - the music is OTM for this exercise, the lyrics will give us plenty to discuss, but it must include every studio track including Hassles (only 2 albums & a few singles) and Attila.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:40 (nine years ago) link
garage rock starts of later, um, titans are always fun and i've always been curious about what attila actually sounded like (w/o being curious enough to actually seek it out). i was wondering if by the time we got to 'piano man' we'd actually welcome it, thinking that it might've taken awhile for joel to find his voice since even 'piano man' doesn't seem there yet (easily one of my most hated dylan pastiches), but nope - first song, first 'billy joel' album is 'she's got a way', about as billy joel a song as you can get (though the hit version is actually a live version from many years later, similar to mccartney and 'maybe i'm amazed')(and you know joel would welcome that comparison).
― balls, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:18 (nine years ago) link
Attila is just your basic 1970 metal band, but without guitars or bass
― Lee626, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link
haha. one thing billy has going for him that neither kiss nor the eagles have is a pretty good catalog of videos. so there's that to talk about too, once we hit the 1980s.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 04:54 (nine years ago) link
Rod gots videos.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 05:01 (nine years ago) link
being that they were from outside Chicago, "corn-fed" doesn't really do it.
That it doesn't, particularly because they were from inside Chicago (the Roseland neighborhood on the south side). Pierogi-fed, or kielbasa-fed, maybe.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:27 (nine years ago) link
Eagles in the wild: "Love Will Keep Us Alive" at Walgreens this morning. A woman collapsed in the perfume aisle.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link
Lot of corn in Illinois, not sure where that's going.
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 13:50 (nine years ago) link
man pierogies are delicious though
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:04 (nine years ago) link
The .gif ppplains posted solidified my support for a Joel thread.
― good and relaxing like akon dont matter (intheblanks), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:36 (nine years ago) link
me too
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
yeah, the possibility of more
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link
and it captured the spirit of this thread on some level I can't quite explain.
― intheblanks, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
I would love to do Styx because I dislike them intensely but there are some good Tommy Shaw songs that were totally ruined by the taint of Dennis DeYoung, they would be fun to dissect.
― Sandy, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:21 (nine years ago) link
But yeah, I can sense the beauty of doing Billy Joel, too.Count me in for anything. I so wish I had been in on this Eagles extravaganza.
― Sandy, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:26 (nine years ago) link
the taint of Dennis DeYoung
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
^ should be the title if we do a Styx listening thread
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:46 (nine years ago) link
Lotta similarities between Joel and DeYoung. They're both show-tuney overenunciators who keep trying (and failing, but, to their credit, hilariously) to "prove" that they "can" "rock."
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 14 May 2014 16:48 (nine years ago) link
Thin ice, Tarfumes. Billy Joel never said that he was the Brian WIlson of Billy Joel, for example.
― pplains, Wednesday, 14 May 2014 18:39 (nine years ago) link
so when is someone gonna start this fire?
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 19 May 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
always been burning, afaic
― pplains, Monday, 19 May 2014 17:52 (nine years ago) link
well, yeah. but still...
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 19 May 2014 17:56 (nine years ago) link
So no Rod then...
http://i2.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article1424995.ece/alternates/s615/Rod-Stewart.jpg
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 May 2014 19:38 (nine years ago) link
You guys remember this classic Don response:
Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention -- and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement. My only regret would be having to explain it in detail to you, which would defeat the purpose of using literary devices in songwriting and lower the discussion to some silly and irrelevant argument about chemical processes.
The folks at Eagles Online Central disagree with our conclusions:
Don has always been very eloquent with what he says. He rarely made a statement that wasn't poignant, which is very detailed in the song writing. He wanted to be a journalism major, he's a smart dude! Not to mention pretty damn cute.
and
These are killing me, Don showed him. Don doesn't have much patience with fools, good for him.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 14:53 (nine years ago) link
Well,
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:11 (nine years ago) link
Speaking of the 'toilet roll incident', there's a programme here where two hoteliers go around other establishments giving tips on how to improve and increase their market and the first thing one guy does is go into each ensuite to see if the toilet roll is around the right way, a la Don!!
Also, I read somewhere that according to feng shui the toilet roll should be coming towards you to create 'harmony' in your bathroom and increase your finances - the other way means money rolling out of your purse! As Don doesn't seem to be doing too badly in the old finance department, maybe it works?
Alright, EOC has my attention. What toilet roll incident?
― pplains, Tuesday, 20 May 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
from: http://dirtylaundryblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/we-have-excerpt.html
In between takes, Don had become a prolific letter-writer. In one he composed to the studio maid, he insisted that the floral toilet paper be put on the roll the other way around so it rolled off the top, pointing out that if it was meant to come off the bottom, the little pink flowers would have been printed on the undersides of the sheets. Where you would see them.
In the industry, to be the receiver of a "Henley" (one of those letters) is to be considered a part of a special club. Some insiders have framed their "Henley"s and hang them in their offices or lounges.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 18:53 (nine years ago) link
so what else is meant to come off Don's bottom
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 19:29 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: "Dirty Laundry" on the muzak at Northern Tool + Equipment.
GLENN: Yup, Don's the tool and I'm the equipment!
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 20 May 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link
Some insiders have framed their "Henley"s and hang them in their offices or lounges.
Facing which direction?
― pplains, Wednesday, 21 May 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
Found this while looking for something else: Dennis Miller introducing the Donster & "Dirty Laundry" at the first Clinton inaugural ball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NmYpJ2R9Ps
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 21 May 2014 05:26 (nine years ago) link
90s singularity
― ▴▲ ▴TH3CR()$BY$H()W▴▲ ▴ (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 22 May 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link
does the guitar lick in this randy newman cover from the doobie brothers' 1971 debut remind you of something as much as it reminds me of something?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZvhrQlFgUo
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 30 May 2014 05:42 (nine years ago) link
Yes. Yes it does.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 May 2014 05:53 (nine years ago) link
wow. but who was the thief? Felder or Walsh?
― col, Friday, 30 May 2014 11:03 (nine years ago) link
I believe the movie said it was riff walsh would warm up to before shows.
― jbn, Friday, 30 May 2014 11:23 (nine years ago) link
Walsh got his.
Compare this (1969) at :20 http://youtu.be/Jpovr2IQpjcto this (1971) http://youtu.be/K3OurDXdlic
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 May 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
In the (very) wild: http://blogs.houstonpress.com/artattack/2014/05/stacey_keith_stripper_memoir.php
Choice bit:
Was Ms. Keith not so smart -- her IQ is around 140, and it shows in conversation and in her writing -- her book might just be a tawdry tale that includes an impromptu Malibu blowjob with Don Henley, surreal photo shoots with Hollywood creeps like Russ Meyer, and a near-rape by a construction crew.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 May 2014 03:57 (nine years ago) link
you can read some of the book in preview, including poor Ms. Keith's initial encounter with the Donster:
"He jogged towards me, said hi, then stopped to catch his breath, which was an obvious ploy...He wasn't in the greatest shape and didn't seem to spend a whole lot of time in the sun. He had a generic face...
'Are you training for a marathon?'I asked, coy but ready to bolt if he said something weird.
'Bad knees," he said. Maybe to prove his point, he braced his hands on them and grinned up at me. 'Do you know who I am?'
'No.'
'I'm Don Henley."
― col, Saturday, 31 May 2014 14:54 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: "The Long Run" @ Lowe's Home Improvement
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 May 2014 21:16 (nine years ago) link
Sounds like a 'nice little saturday'
― the glimmer man (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 31 May 2014 23:00 (nine years ago) link
2nd part of the doc on BBC4 again now
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 31 May 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link
OH MAN.
Don Henley is having a "Hey kids, get off my lawn!" moment. In a new interview, the Eagles frontman tweaks R&B singer Frank Ocean and indie band Okkervil River for using master tracks or covering two of his songs in recent years without permission.
Henley's issue with Ocean stems from the rising star's sampling of the entire "Hotel California" track, minus vocals, for his song "American Wedding." Ocean wrote new lyrics for the song, which was never released commercially but was included on a free mixtape. Henley was not impressed, and seemed shocked that Ocean "doesn't seem to understand" copyright laws in the United States.
"Anyone who knows anything should know you cannot take a master track of a recording and write another song over the top of it," Henley told the Daily Telegraph in Australia. "You just can't do that. You can call it a tribute or whatever you want to call it, but it's against the law. That's a problem with some of the younger generation, they don't understand the concept of intellectual property and copyright."
Henley said when he caught wind of the track's existence, he got his lawyers involved, and that Ocean was "quite arrogant about" the situation. The classic rocker said Ocean wouldn't listen to reason, so he threatened legal action. "American Wedding"
"He was clearly in the wrong," Henley said. "I wouldn't dream of doing something like that. What kind of ego is that? I don't understand it."
Previously, Ocean has jabbed that Henley was "intimidated by my rendition" of the song and said that he failed to understand what the fuss was about, given that no money was being made. "Isn't this guy rich as fuck?" he wrote on Tumblr. "Why sue the new guy?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
"What kind of ego is that? I don't understand it."
I think you do, Don
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:35 (nine years ago) link
GLENN: Remember when we diddled that brunette from Stockton? Goddamn sure she didn't ask for permission!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:40 (nine years ago) link
what did okkerkil river do?
― dollar rave club (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:49 (nine years ago) link
i love that frank ocean tune, and i think the "isn't this guy rich as fuck?" defense is legally sound and should be used by actual lawyers.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:55 (nine years ago) link
What's Henley care? Felder wrote the music. Boy of Summer mad he got edited out?
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
Song has his only decent drumroll in the whole Eagles catalog, he really should be paid.
― Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 16:03 (nine years ago) link
Don't look back you can never look back
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 16:04 (nine years ago) link
GLENN: but sometimes it's good to be looking AT her back, if you know what i mean.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 16:06 (nine years ago) link
omg I just saw this thread had new answers and opened it this minute and HC is playing on a co-worker's radio right now! (The dual-guitar bit, the only bit I'm guaranteed to hear over general office-noise)
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 16:45 (nine years ago) link
bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo bee-dee-doobee-dee-doo bee-dee-doo bee-dee-DOO
― Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
sue me, Don
The Original Interview
re: Okkervil River
Henley also nixed a remake of his solo hit The End of the Innocence by US band Okkervil River, who had planned to release it online for free.Okkervil River singer Will Sheff told The Music they “sincerely” loved the song and said Henley was an “old-fashioned guy who doesn’t understand...it’s not like I was making money, I figure that’s all he f---ing cares about.“It’s not like I was making money off it, but he still made me take it down.”Henley said he was more concerned by the fact they altered his original lyrics.“They don’t understand the law either,” Henley said. ``You can’t re-write the lyrics to somebody else’s songs and record it and put it on the internet. I’m sorry, but it wasn’t an improvement. We were not impressed. So we simply had our legal team tell them to take it down and they got all huffy about it.``It’s a different mindset. I don’t know how they’d react if I took one of their songs and re-wrote the lyrics and recorded it, I don’t know if they’d like that. Maybe they wouldn’t care but I care. We work really really hard on our material. We spend months writing it and years recording it. You don’t go into a museum and paint a moustache on somebody else’s painting. Nobody would think of doing that.”Henley said he did not see either remake as a tribute “If I were going to do something like that (as a tribute ) I’d get permission first. If you respect somebody you ask their permission to diddle around with their work. You don’t just go and do it.”
Okkervil River singer Will Sheff told The Music they “sincerely” loved the song and said Henley was an “old-fashioned guy who doesn’t understand...it’s not like I was making money, I figure that’s all he f---ing cares about.
“It’s not like I was making money off it, but he still made me take it down.”
Henley said he was more concerned by the fact they altered his original lyrics.
“They don’t understand the law either,” Henley said. ``You can’t re-write the lyrics to somebody else’s songs and record it and put it on the internet. I’m sorry, but it wasn’t an improvement. We were not impressed. So we simply had our legal team tell them to take it down and they got all huffy about it.
``It’s a different mindset. I don’t know how they’d react if I took one of their songs and re-wrote the lyrics and recorded it, I don’t know if they’d like that. Maybe they wouldn’t care but I care. We work really really hard on our material. We spend months writing it and years recording it. You don’t go into a museum and paint a moustache on somebody else’s painting. Nobody would think of doing that.”
Henley said he did not see either remake as a tribute “If I were going to do something like that (as a tribute ) I’d get permission first. If you respect somebody you ask their permission to diddle around with their work. You don’t just go and do it.”
http://netdna.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Archer-GIFs-10.gif
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:08 (nine years ago) link
We work really really hard on our material. We spend months writing it and years recording it. You don’t go into a museum and paint a moustache on somebody else’s painting. Nobody would think of doing that.”
O RLY?
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/15/1350326616080/Barbican-salutes-Marcel-D-008.jpg
― Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
For those of you who change lyrics live, Don's got words for you!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link
they're like his children, man! you wouldn't paint a mustache on somebody's kid WOULD YOU?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:24 (nine years ago) link
I met a Frenchman in a field last nightHe was out there with an easel, painting carnival lightHe said, "I used to paint the princess; I used to paint the frogsNow I paint moustaches on dangerous dogs"He said, "Sometimes it's a country; sometimes it's a girlYou know, everybody's got to have a purpose in this worldYou Yankees are so silly about matters of the heartDon't you know that women are the only works of art
You're drivin' with your eyes closedYou're drivin' with your eyes closedYou're drivin' with your eyes closedYou're gonna hit somethin'But that's the way it goes"
Come guys were born to RimbaudSome guys breathe BaudelaireCome guys just got to go and put their rockets everywhereYou can breed 'em by the thousands; you can trick and you can trainJust look at all those poor dogs that are dragged down by the SeineHow many arrows must I shoot into the blue?Ah, you little maniac, I'm crazy over youBefore The Death of Lovers and The Punishment of PrideLet's go scrape across the terrazzoIt's just too hot outside
"You're drivin' with your eyes closedYou're drivin' with your eyes closedYou're drivin' with your eyes closedYou're gonna hit somethin'But that's the way it goes
Talk talk, talk and talkTalk talk, sweet talkTalk talk, tough talkTalk talk, dirty talkTalk talk, walk and talkTalk talk, big talkTalk talk, baby talkKiss kiss kiss
Talk talk, talk and talkTalk talk, smooth talkTalk talk, body talkTalk talk, back talkTalk talk, small talkTalk talk, baby talkTalk talk, peace talkTalk talk, bullshit
http://vimeo.com/75138530
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:26 (nine years ago) link
Out on the road today, I saw a Black Flag sticker on a Cadillac.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:27 (nine years ago) link
Don didn't write that song so he doesn't care if you fuck it up
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:28 (nine years ago) link
Don Henley, criticizing other people's lyrics
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:30 (nine years ago) link
he's like a baker that hates sandwiches
― Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:34 (nine years ago) link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_process
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
More hilarity:
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/the-eagles-to-tour-australia-but-want-fans-to-put-away-their-phones/story-e6frfn29-1226926087860
``Videoing a concert with a phone is a violation of our copyright,” he said. “Google own You Tube. They don’t need any more free content. We don’t want our shows posted on You Tube. It spoils it for people who are going to come to a show in the future. We’d like for them to experience it for the first time in the audience rather than experience it on a crappy video that sounds horrible. But I don’t think there’s any going back now. People feel so entitled to being able to use their gadgets and post things on the web. I’m from a different generation, I don’t understand it, it’s not a very pure experience. It takes away from the immediacy of the live performance. If we’re just going to watch TV we can stay home and do that.”...As well as being anti-phone, the Eagles are asking fans to sit down during the show, which is heavy on their trademark ballads.``It’s always been puzzling to us that there’s always three or four people in an audience of several thousand who think they have to stand up for the entire show,” Henley said. ``They seem to be completely oblivious to the fact there’s thousands of people behind them who are not standing up because it’s a ballad for Christ’s sake! We get to a point in our show when it’s quite obvious it’s time to stand up and we give the audience a signal. But people who start standing up in the beginning when we’re doing ballads are a great annoyance to us and to the people behind them. We have our security people gently tell them to sit down. You pay for your seat, sit in it.”
As well as being anti-phone, the Eagles are asking fans to sit down during the show, which is heavy on their trademark ballads.``It’s always been puzzling to us that there’s always three or four people in an audience of several thousand who think they have to stand up for the entire show,” Henley said. ``They seem to be completely oblivious to the fact there’s thousands of people behind them who are not standing up because it’s a ballad for Christ’s sake! We get to a point in our show when it’s quite obvious it’s time to stand up and we give the audience a signal. But people who start standing up in the beginning when we’re doing ballads are a great annoyance to us and to the people behind them. We have our security people gently tell them to sit down. You pay for your seat, sit in it.”
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:48 (nine years ago) link
We get to a point in our show when it’s quite obvious it’s time to stand up and we give the audience a signal
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
Is it the finger
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
you pay for your seat, sit in it
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:03 (nine years ago) link
You stand when the priests of rock stand
― Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:04 (nine years ago) link
They spent months and years assembling those seats
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
DON: we get to a point in our blowjobs when it's quite obvious it's time to stop blowing and we give the blower a signal.
GLENN: i think i'm gonna signal right now.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:05 (nine years ago) link
They're not just blowjobs, they're EAGLES Blowjobs.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:07 (nine years ago) link
tbh I dislike standing through a show too, especially when it's mellow twaddle like the Eagles.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:19 (nine years ago) link
Posted upthread, never forget:
Early on, he promised that the group would educate as well as entertain. That meant clips from the film about what book inspired this song and how they told that producer it’s time to rock. It also meant a lecture about the night’s harvest moon and playful scolding when Professor Frey mistakenly said CD instead of tape and the fans laughed. “I’ll tell you when to laugh. That wasn’t a joke,” he half-joked.
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link
All rise. The part of the song where you can stand is now in session, Honorable Judge Don Henley presiding.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 8:03 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I thought this was a joke but he actually said that.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link
THAT WASN'T A JOKE
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:24 (nine years ago) link
Henley's so funny when he's not trying to be funny.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:52 (nine years ago) link
Long-winded Eagles in the wild...
Went on a tour of the Los Angeles Federal Reserve yesterday morning. Saw millions of dollars shredded (lasered actually), the football-field sized vault where several billion in cash was stored, ID'ed some counterfeit bills, etc. etc. Pretty cool tour overall.
Before leaving, I asked a couple questions of the guide:
ET: "Once you started working here, how long did it take for you to stop thinking of the significance of all this as money and as mere product and inventory you have to move around and deal with like at any other job?"
Fed. Res. Emp: "About three months"
ET: "Has working here changed how you feel about money in general?"
FRE: "Yeah, I hate it"
The tour ended and as I crossed the street to the parking lot, a nearby taco truck was blaring out "Hotel California." Had a moment...
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 20:57 (nine years ago) link
wait did they laser cut a big block of money?
― Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:00 (nine years ago) link
Lasering a block of money?
<crying Don Henley jpg.>
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:12 (nine years ago) link
Fed. Res. Emp: "So that concludes the tour of the Reserve, any questions? Yes? You, up here in the front."
DON: "Since you're not using it for anything else, have you ever tried snorting the money?"
FRE: "Excuse me?"
DON: "Just see if you could try to imagine for a second using a hundred-dollar bill to get a hit off of a hundred hundred-dollar bills. Not saying I couldn't try it, mind you, but you all here seem like you could afford the charity."
GLENN: "Ha, you could even cache a bowl with actual cash! Anyone could!"
DON: "Well, yeah..."
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 21:37 (nine years ago) link
VIP tickets for upcoming Eagles shows include several keys of shredded bills.
http://www.semshred.com/stuff/contentmgr/files/0/94674abb359b937f5c67f1a18b1d6410/misc/brick_202.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
End of show confetti cannons filled with
http://lunchbreaktourists.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/federal-reserve-interior-bag-of-shredded-cash.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VmLkgZ4mlE4/TRNqxNdWesI/AAAAAAAADEg/63h7lPFZJwE/s1600/Kansas%2BCity%2B4.jpg
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:47 (nine years ago) link
We get to a point in our show when it’s quite obvious it’s time to stand up and we give the audience a signal.
midway through, Glenn helpfully tells people that it's a good time for a bathroom break as they've got a Tim Schmidt number coming up
― col, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:50 (nine years ago) link
The counting machines at the Fed are hulking monsters that take thousands of bills at a time and auto-reject anything too worn or counterfeit to a shredder that uses lasers rather than the traditional cutting blades. The LA Fed generates 530 tons of shredded currency a year and using lasers is just plain faster.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
TBS: "Pretty much right after we did the Christmas single."
― pplains, Wednesday, 4 June 2014 23:56 (nine years ago) link
― balls, Thursday, 5 June 2014 03:01 (nine years ago) link
Hey, we've broken the 5000 post mark on this thread! You know what that means!
COLITAS* ON THE 50 YARD LINE**!!!!!!***
*You may not bring your own Colitas from home. If you do, they will be confiscated. Special Eagles Colitas will be available for purchase inside the venue.**Only Eagles Platinum Club Members will have access to the 50 Yard Line--unless you're hot.***Enter at your own peril: http://www.youtubemultiplier.com/538ffa20a8063-chuggin-all-the-time.php
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 June 2014 05:10 (nine years ago) link
non participants will be given colitis
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 June 2014 05:20 (nine years ago) link
possibly less unpleasant
― Sufjenga Cat Giffin (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 5 June 2014 05:22 (nine years ago) link
six of one half a dozen of the other
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 5 June 2014 05:24 (nine years ago) link
― pplains, Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:56 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
spectacular
― Prince Kajuku (Bill Magill), Thursday, 5 June 2014 15:13 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: Joe Walsh's "All Night Long" at Home Depot.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 5 June 2014 21:46 (nine years ago) link
In The Wild: "Love Will Keep Us Alive" at one of those fancy remodeled Wendy's.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 June 2014 21:42 (nine years ago) link
Did you smell rotten meat?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 June 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
I <heard> rotten meat.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 June 2014 21:45 (nine years ago) link
brisket!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 June 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
Pecan Pie!
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 June 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
misogynist!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 June 2014 21:48 (nine years ago) link
petroleum club!
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 June 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
in the wild: "hotel california" on the staples center organ during the second overtime of the kings-rangers game. (though maybe/probably they do that all the time.) (but it obviously propelled them to victory and the stanley cup.
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 14 June 2014 04:43 (nine years ago) link
you can check anytime you like :D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 June 2014 04:47 (nine years ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 14 June 2014 04:48 (nine years ago) link
haha Ron McLean made a "Hotel California" reference (same joke, practically!) on CBC just before the game!
Considered posting that Stanley Cup organ-rendition airing myself but wasn't sure it was eligible.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 14 June 2014 04:58 (nine years ago) link
No wait, I remember...joke was something about LA trying to stab the Rangers with their steely knives
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 14 June 2014 05:01 (nine years ago) link
and they did kill the beast!
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 14 June 2014 05:07 (nine years ago) link
warm smell of hockey pants rising up through the air
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 14 June 2014 05:33 (nine years ago) link
DON: We didn't have hockey in the little corner of Texas where I grew up. But like anyone who landed in Los Angeles, I quickly became a Kings fan. It's been great to take breaks during our current tour to check up on this championship run.
GLENN: We're hoping that the Kings will let me and Don be photographed with the trophy. I'd call it, "Two Eagles, One Cup", after a viral video of which we are both very fond.
― Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 14 June 2014 06:41 (nine years ago) link
lol A+
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 14 June 2014 16:35 (nine years ago) link
Huell Howser visits the Eagles in the 1970s and then again in 1994.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOZo6l88j2Q
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:32 (nine years ago) link
let me predict
SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS...YOU CAN CHECK *OUT* ANY TIME YOU LIKE BUT YOU CAN *NEVER* LEAVE?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
"a lot of munchies"
― jbn, Thursday, 19 June 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link
"BUT, in case the man gets hungry, we wanna have it onboard."
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 June 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link
Eagles in the wiiiild LITERALLY...several times during a three day camp weekend just ended. Take it easy, The Long Run, couple more. No internet or nothin for 90 or so hours, my longest disconnected span since 2001.
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Monday, 23 June 2014 21:50 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: "Lyin' Eyes" at a Which Which, followed a song later by some ilm listening thread synergy in the form of "Sad Songs (Say So Much)" by Elton John.
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: Farewell Tour 1 is a bluray demo at my local Fr(e)y's. Glenn dedicates "Lyin' Eyes" to his first wife, "Plaintiff."
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/ultimateclassicrock.com/files/2013/02/Don-Henley-Rick-Diamond.jpg
BAH-DAh-Dum *tish*
― pplains, Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
Add some extra *tish*s, as we're dealing with Henley here.
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 June 2014 23:55 (nine years ago) link
Henley playing drums is like antimatter to any concept of a "Jazz Fest"
― col, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 00:10 (nine years ago) link
"...yeah, we got Max Roach, Roy Haynes, Elvin Jones....and Don Henley"
― Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 00:43 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: Patty Smythe-Don Henley's "Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough," a massive #2 hit in fall '92 and the Donster's last. All these years later (god help me) he doesn't sound terrible harmonizing over the dated-at-the-time midtempo El Lay A/C arrangement.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 02:07 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: Value Village in East Atlanta was playing "The Heart of the Matter" by Don Henley, which is a seriously depressing song that is probably the soundtrack to millions of divorces.
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 26 June 2014 01:23 (nine years ago) link
I was riding back from work with a friend early this morning. We were talking classic rock and I learned he hates the Eagles but loves the comedy songs on The Long Run.
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 June 2014 02:04 (nine years ago) link
An amazing detail from this political story:
Ball argued that Americans had loaned out their sovereignty to public servants, but they reserve the right to take it back.“So when that governor, that sheriff, doesn’t do his job, we can go take them out of office,” he said. “We don’t have to wait for an election.”He didn’t explain how that worked, but in another video posted online, Ball argues that individuals can escape police questioning by insisting officers fill out a form.As the Eagles’ 1979 Al Green pastiche, “I Can’t Tell You Why,” plays in the background, Ball explains that sovereign citizens can hold public officials accountable for violating their oath with the Public Servant Questionnaire.Ball claims the document, which asks for identifying information and explanations of the officers’ intentions, must be filled out by public servants before they question citizens.
“So when that governor, that sheriff, doesn’t do his job, we can go take them out of office,” he said. “We don’t have to wait for an election.”
He didn’t explain how that worked, but in another video posted online, Ball argues that individuals can escape police questioning by insisting officers fill out a form.
As the Eagles’ 1979 Al Green pastiche, “I Can’t Tell You Why,” plays in the background, Ball explains that sovereign citizens can hold public officials accountable for violating their oath with the Public Servant Questionnaire.
Ball claims the document, which asks for identifying information and explanations of the officers’ intentions, must be filled out by public servants before they question citizens.
― Disagree. And im not into firey solos chief. (Phil D.), Thursday, 26 June 2014 11:49 (nine years ago) link
Saw this as a featured item last night at Wal Mart:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/91qR7b4xXtL._SL1500_.jpg
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 30 June 2014 12:05 (nine years ago) link
― carl agatha, Monday, 30 June 2014 12:55 (nine years ago) link
A long time ago, I bought a cassette of the Greatest Hits of Bachman Turner Overdrive and Grand Funk Railroad, each with their own side of the tape.
But I assumed that A.) such a format wouldn't exactly work on a CD and B.) Styx and Foreigner have more than enough tunes (and fans) to qualify for their own GH package.
As for Don Felder, lol, Don Felder wat are u doing?
― pplains, Monday, 30 June 2014 13:49 (nine years ago) link
oh felderpaws
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 June 2014 18:16 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: Walking out of a Barnes & Noble to hear the opening of "The Long Run" positively BLASTING from the muzak of a neighboring Talbot's. Could easily still hear it from my parking space an easy 100ft. away.
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 2 July 2014 00:07 (nine years ago) link
"Lyin' Eyes" inside the new Savers that took over the old Wal-Mart. Buying some ant poison.
― pplains, Wednesday, 2 July 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link
Spotted while perusing the newly archived "Real Life Rock Top Tens":
8. MTV: Decade–1980-1989 (December 24)A two-hour tribute to digital editing, with talking heads both stupid (John Mellencamp, Tina Turner, and most of all Linda Ellerbee) and not (Frank Zappa, David Byrne, Roseanne Barr). Best line, Don Henley: “Reagan had a bedside manner for a dying nation.”
Ronald: Well, yeah.
― Incident At Spanish Harlem (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 July 2014 21:07 (nine years ago) link
Know what gets me out of bed in the mornings?
https://vine.co/v/MYr7IqQwp69
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 August 2014 12:39 (nine years ago) link
Chug All Night, Take It Easy Every Morn'
― Randall "Humble" Pie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 13 August 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
"Already Gone" playing in the guard shack of a parking lot as I was leaving from a job interview."One Of These Nights" playing right now in a Silver Lake coffee bar.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:04 (nine years ago) link
i tried to watch the 3-hour documentary on The Eagles last week when it came on TV at midnight and i was trying to stay up late to meet a deadline. it put me to sleep after an hour, although i was really just very tired, i found it interesting.
― some dude, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:24 (nine years ago) link
I don't have Showtime.
Also, I've listened to every song they ever released. Not sure if "putting it all in context" is going to do anything for me.
― pplains, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link
Seriously, this thread was like Boys State. Glad I went, hope I never do it again.
― pplains, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:36 (nine years ago) link
IT'S GONNA BE A YEAR, GUYS
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:40 (nine years ago) link
Playing "Chug All Night" on the hour on the 20th
― col, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 00:56 (nine years ago) link
Celebrate with a FAP in Winslow, Arizona, followed by a trip to DFW to rent a helicopter to drop TP on Don Henley's mansion.
― Randall "Humble" Pie (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link
needs more rails of blow otherwise tes
― SEEMS TO ME (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 01:19 (nine years ago) link
yes, even
I don't think we've covered this before, but I found this 1979 Rolling Stone cover story in the RS Archives for recently posted for Charles M. Young (RIP). Our Zeroes are positively ON FIYAH throughout.
The Donster driving recklessly!Azoff dissing Steve Miller!Joe Walsh not brushing his teeth!Glenn Frey on his 'Playmate Period'!Tim Schmidt being boring!Don and Glenn go to a punk show!
It's all there, and more.
― Randall "Humble" Pie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 07:20 (nine years ago) link
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/A19Z9AJ10fL.jpg
I woke up this morning and Don Felder's legs were missing.
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
Don looks a bit tense. The second after the shutter fell, he was like: OK, time to step OFF, Bernie or whatever your name is.
happy anniversary, all.
― col, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link
we're like Richard Farnsworth and the WWII survivor having a Bud Lite in The Straight Story.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link
Guys.
I just saw something.
And now, I am very ---
I'm having some weird emotions right now.
I'll be back later, just gotta take a sec.
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:40 (nine years ago) link
Oh, here. Almost forgot:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v0dn10EDBQ
oh hell
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 13:41 (nine years ago) link
from the article:
"Throwing up is my least-favorite thing in the world," moans Frey.
"Don't worry, Don," Walsh comforts. "Tomorrow's gonna be better. Toronto's my lucky city. I met a girl there once that I didn't get the clap from."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:10 (nine years ago) link
Don: "You remember the line, "Her mind is Tiffany twisted, she got the Mercedes bends" in "Hotel California"? I got a letter from a woman telling me I spelled the name of the car wrong. I can't stand it that somebody out there thinks I can't spell."
― col, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:16 (nine years ago) link
can only imagine the response letter. "The line in question is a pun on the copyright name "Mercedes Benz" and "bends." It's meant as a sociopolitical statement."
― col, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:17 (nine years ago) link
I'm trying real hard to not just run back here and paste every paragraph of that RS story.
But stuff like "Who are you guys? The Maalox survivors?" Frey explodes with laughter is making it difficult.
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:26 (nine years ago) link
"Look at that: the buns of doom," says Frey, ogling an attractive female walking down Santa Monica outside the club. "Ya know, the great thing about being thirty is there are so many more available women. The young ones look younger and the old ones don't look nearly as old."
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:27 (nine years ago) link
Henley and Frey emerge from the control room a little before midnight (six hours early by their standards) and announce it is monster time. To monster, in Eaglese, is to ingest mind-altering substances and behave like a beast. The Eagles measure monsterdom in quarters, as in, "I was only three-quarters monstered last night."
Don Henley mixed his records with a legal pad.
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:39 (nine years ago) link
chuck was the master of this kinda shit. but as I said on the thread dedicated to him that FCC started last night, he could not accept that the days of him shadowing someone for a long time, getting mucho acreage with minimal editing to say exactly what he wanted had expired. that said RS did give him assignments in the last decade where he was afforded leeway that less seasoned writers would never get.
which is to say that he did this kinda thing for decades. his contemporaries like Xgau and marsh were much more invested in, like, what they thought and how they were right about everything. Chuck was curious and attentive to other people in ways that those guys were not. I urge you guys to seek out his shit for RS and Musician, cuz he deserves to be remembered as much as Lester Bangs. see the thread FCC started last night for more.
― veronica moser, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:40 (nine years ago) link
They called themselves the Eagles, which pleased Frey because he thought it sounded like a street gang.
West Side Story had more intimidating gang names.
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 14:49 (nine years ago) link
The Baseball Furies is a more intimidating gang name.
― carl agatha, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link
Maybe not The James Gang, you got me on that one Roach.
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:04 (nine years ago) link
I count three songs – "Witchy Woman," "Good Day in Hell" and "One of These Nights" – where the Eagles equate women with the Devil. Has your perception of women changed over the years?
I constantly ask myself what I think of women. Lately I've been feeling less physical. I'm through my playmate period, ya know, where you meet a real pretty girl and immediately attach all these great qualities to her. But women are objects for men, whether or not sex objects. They're a goal – that's the way we're brought up. Maybe there's something wrong with that. The Devil imagery was just a way of describing a seductive look.
But the Devil is evil. Aren't you equating sex with evil?
Yeah, well, we're speaking to America.
Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-eagles-hell-is-for-heroes-19791129#ixzz3AwhapkGnFollow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
So, Alfred, what's the weather like in Steam City today?
― pplains, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:20 (nine years ago) link
I'll tell you after I get past this fuckin' stop sign
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 15:27 (nine years ago) link
In The Wild: "Best of My Love" on the area CC 'Rock' station.
ANNIVERSARY JAM
― Randall "Humble" Pie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 21:57 (nine years ago) link
Uhoh, now it's Springsteen and "One Step Up...".
TROUBLE IN PARADISE
― Randall "Humble" Pie (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 22:01 (nine years ago) link
Watch David Letterman Try to Bait the Eagles Into a Lawsuit
― fact checking cuz, Saturday, 13 September 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link
DON: David may joke about it, but all we are doing is taking action to keep our art guarded from being exploited by those in the TV world who want to stick our music under every game, season finale, and news report. That cheapens everything.
GLENN: We're also still pissed about that Seinfeld episode. Between that and the possibility Leadon could make money off his work--it's just too traumatic to play anymore.
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 September 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: Pandora sends a message to my phone recommending I listen to their "70s Rock" channel. I click the link and the first song is "Heartache Tonight".
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 September 2014 09:03 (nine years ago) link
break my heart.
― pplains, Friday, 19 September 2014 13:32 (nine years ago) link
I miss this thread :(
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 September 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link
I worked an event last night, an awards banquet for the regional construction industry, and every time an award was given out a live band would play an instrumental version of a popular song for about 30 seconds -- kind of Paul Schaffer-style bumper music. one that they played a couple times was "Hotel California," don't tell Don and Glenn.
― some dude, Friday, 19 September 2014 14:11 (nine years ago) link
i dunno, this looks kinda chilling in retrospect...
― scott seward, Tuesday, August 20, 2013 1:31 PM (1 year ago)
― scott seward, Friday, 19 September 2014 15:08 (nine years ago) link
and they were never heard from again...
I miss this thread and I wasn't even a part of it.
― The Velvet Fog called me a motherfucker (Sandy), Friday, 19 September 2014 16:58 (nine years ago) link
GUYS
"A Good Day in Hell" a year ago!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 September 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
no wonder I woke up w/an upset stomach this morning
― col, Friday, 19 September 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
this thread should be published in book form. in the kindle version the embedded youtube videos will still work.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:41 (nine years ago) link
i had avoided this thread until today, but i've been reading it for the past hour. evokes warm memories of lurking on ilm in college and being amazed that so many people had strong and deeply researched opinions on stuff they professed either not to care about or to actively dislike, and that i wasn't the only one foolish enough to spend their time thusly.
that might sound sarcastic but it's not.
― Treeship, Tuesday, 23 September 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link
In the wild, sort of: watching the Witchay Woman episode of Seinfeld right now on one of my local stations
― The Velvet Fog called me a motherfucker (Sandy), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:43 (nine years ago) link
Desperado @ Grocery Outlet. Sweetest programming ever
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:52 (nine years ago) link
^^The Donster knows those feels:
(PS: I must it feels like a turning point when I just discovered that Crowe interview link was no longer saved in my browser.)
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 03:56 (nine years ago) link
That's the least gross he's sounded out of anything quoted in this thread.
― carl agatha, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 09:17 (nine years ago) link
Eight-second song about the Eagles in the style of the Mountain Goats
― pplains, Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:24 (nine years ago) link
I just got a sponsored post in my fb feed from Stubhub saying "Find your dream seats for the Eagles show in Houston on 10/14 . Click here for tickets!"
I didn't know they were playing here again so soon--they just did a show back in February I think.
From the link:
Tickets-Priced from: $93.31 USD1,020 tickets left
Parking Passes-Priced from: $14.99 USD174 tickets left
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:56 (nine years ago) link
and FYI, I'm not going because IF I WANT TO STAND UP DURING A BALLAD, I WILL TO STAND THE FUCK UP
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 19:57 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: Patty Smyth and Henley's "Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough," a huge boomer-rock hit in fall '92 (#2 behind "End of the Road") and one of the last. It holds up.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 20:01 (nine years ago) link
Both Mr. Henley and the Eagles have worked hard, for over 40 years, to build their names and goodwill in the world community," he continues. "They pride themselves on the fact that they have never allowed their names, likenesses or music – individually or as a group – to be used to sell products. Their names are their trademarks and, therefore, they take offense when an individual or a business tries to piggyback and capitalize on their art, their hard work and their goodwill in the public arena."
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/don-henley-sues-maker-of-henley-t-shirt-over-pun-20141010
― col, Friday, 10 October 2014 23:48 (nine years ago) link
http://d252n40xdb1b5e.cloudfront.net/image.aspx/media/images/products/56014-HTG-front.jpg-1500x1500
This is a battle I can't take sides in.
― pplains, Saturday, 11 October 2014 00:39 (nine years ago) link
Don A Henley And Chug All Night
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 October 2014 05:03 (nine years ago) link
Don A Henley And Get Over It
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 October 2014 05:46 (nine years ago) link
melina1222 • 12 hours ago
Waiters hate Henley for being a crap tipper, and hotel staff can't stand him either. But the Duluth Trading suit is not Henley's stupidest lawsuit. In 1998, he literally tried to sue a nonprofit dedicated to saving - you guessed it - endangered eagles. The suit claimed that the American Eagle Foundation was guilty of name infringement. The suit was eventually dropped, as his lawyer said he was busy touring and couldn't appear in court.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 October 2014 18:51 (nine years ago) link
I remember that case. It was a dispute over the web domain "eagles.org".
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 11 October 2014 19:00 (nine years ago) link
ooh! in the wild: "Teenage Jail" at a watch repair shop I visited earlier. We reviewed it almost a year ago :(
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 October 2014 19:11 (nine years ago) link
In The Wild: I knew they had used it, but last night I watched the series finale of China Beach on DVD, and what I didn't know was that "Try and Love Again" actually was the last non-score music cue they used on the show (it plays over a scene of the characters saying their goodbyes after visiting the Vietnam Memorial). For the DVD, they had to sub a less 'produced' Randy solo recording in place of the Eagles original, presumably due to the Eagles' blackout on TV licenses, but I'd like to think it's really because Dana Delaney probably threw a martini at Don and/or Glenn at an LA-area bar sometime in the '90s.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 18:48 (nine years ago) link
Guys guys GUYS The History of the Eagles is on Netflix streaming!!! All 3 hours of it!
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 18 October 2014 16:12 (nine years ago) link
there goes my Sunday.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 October 2014 16:15 (nine years ago) link
^^Well, yeah.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 18 October 2014 17:01 (nine years ago) link
My Netflix is open, and it's Sunday somewhere...
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 October 2014 02:27 (nine years ago) link
Man, that '77 show was well-filmed. And to see how close the audience was! If you were up front, it was like a club show.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 October 2014 02:37 (nine years ago) link
Linden, Texas: Home of Scott Joplin...T-Bone Walker...and...Don Henley.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 October 2014 02:53 (nine years ago) link
Seger seriously giving off Roky Erickson vibes in that first photo, "Workin' on those night moves with a two-headed dog..."
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 October 2014 03:00 (nine years ago) link
"Glyn Johns, please report to the 'Old Men Who Look Like Old Lesbians' thread. Your table is ready."
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 October 2014 03:23 (nine years ago) link
After (re)watching the doc I've a proposal: I'd love a listening thread for Don 'n' Glenn's solo work. It's got enough good points (early) to keep it cool, as opposed to Meisner and Walsh solo albums post-Eagles.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 October 2014 23:53 (nine years ago) link
hmmmm
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 October 2014 00:05 (nine years ago) link
C'MON
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 00:06 (nine years ago) link
The Bus to Partytown is waiting, and don't worry, inside THE HEAT...IS...ON.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 01:06 (nine years ago) link
Returning to Netflix for the second hour of the doc: BATHTUBS FULL OF BUDWEISER!
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 01:12 (nine years ago) link
"Don and I were big fans of hidden, deeper meaning (the name of a popular strain of cocaine at the time)."
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link
Grisso, are you with me? VegemiteGrrl? scott? col?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 01:56 (nine years ago) link
Randy?
ehhh
i'm fearful
a few solo tracks is one thing...albums plural gives me the phear
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
they're aren't many!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:19 (nine years ago) link
Henley:
I Can't Stand StillBuilding the Perfect BeastThe End of the InnocenceInside Job
Frey:
No Fun AllowedThe AllnighterSoul Searchin'Strange Weather
We can even skip Glenny's standards album.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:21 (nine years ago) link
...we'll listen to Rod Stewart's standards albums instead!
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:24 (nine years ago) link
Also: not to get pedantic, but that's No Fun ALOUD.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:26 (nine years ago) link
if you do the Henley catalog make sure you don't skip "THE GARDEN OF ALLAH," a 7-minute spoken word dirge about the devil from his 1995 greatest hits compilation
― some dude, Monday, 20 October 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link
Watch--when this thing's almost over, the Donster will finally drop Cass County, his Country standards lp.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:29 (nine years ago) link
some dude is in
WE WANT TO PARTY
WOO
WE WANT TO GET DOWN
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:32 (nine years ago) link
Hey, when the time comes, are we go shift over to Frey's acting career?
http://cdn.fstatic.com/public/movies/covers/2012/07/thumbs/2555de293e1b4889fbb5521623780a5d_jpg_290x478_upscale_q90.jpg
^^Probably not on netflix instant
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:34 (nine years ago) link
thought it said Reggae Infernal
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 02:41 (nine years ago) link
Gamergate Infernal
― some dude, Monday, 20 October 2014 02:47 (nine years ago) link
i'm in. but we have to be sure to cover all of the Frey/Don Johnson pepsi ads, as they're some Glenn's best work of the era
― col, Monday, 20 October 2014 03:08 (nine years ago) link
if we promise we can review the bodybuildin' ads.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:10 (nine years ago) link
does "Leather and Lace" qualify? (it has to)
― col, Monday, 20 October 2014 03:20 (nine years ago) link
I'm a glutton for punishment; I can do this! (and I <i>like</i> a few Don tunes and also some of Tim B.'s)
― and in his absence, she (Lee626), Monday, 20 October 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link
SPOILER ALERT: At the end of the doc, the Donated quotes a Neil Young lyric, and then goes on to talk metaphorically about his old John Deere tractor.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 04:03 (nine years ago) link
give to me your henley
take from me my frey
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 October 2014 04:05 (nine years ago) link
ugh pretend i never said that grooooooossssss
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 October 2014 04:06 (nine years ago) link
my irl life is too nutty right now to commit to such an undertaking but i'll play along when i can
even though i will end up hating all of you
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 October 2014 04:07 (nine years ago) link
― I can't make my waterface turn into a *fart* (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 20 October 2014 04:09 (nine years ago) link
The 'We Think You'll Enjoy These Titles...' on Netflix after the doc are:
Stevie Nicks: In Your DreamsSing Me The Songs That Say I Love You: A Concert For Kate McGarrigleThe Libertines: There Are No Innocent Bystanders
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 October 2014 04:13 (nine years ago) link
OK, guys...
Stayed tuned today!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 11:02 (nine years ago) link
we'll be done by December!
Ooh, this is my chance to talk about how "Not Enough Love In The World" is really about Henley and Frey.
― bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Monday, 20 October 2014 12:08 (nine years ago) link
we're live:
They Will Not Go Quietly: The Official ILM Track-By-Track DON 'n' GLENN Listening Thread
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 October 2014 13:29 (nine years ago) link
stoked for the madness
― bizarro gazzara, Monday, 20 October 2014 13:52 (nine years ago) link
http://the-toast.net/2014/10/23/women-eagles-songs-order-trustworthiness/
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
Well that's timely.
― carl agatha, Thursday, 23 October 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
Tags: do not joke about the eagles to me, fuck off you're not too good for the eagles, music, the eagles, the eagles are serious business, their music connected to a lot of people what have you ever done with your life, women
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link
the joy (hope) of Henley finding that essay in a Google search of himself. He'd probably try to sue her for copyright infringement for quoting too much of his lyrics.
― col, Thursday, 23 October 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
In The Wild: It's Joe Walsh's birthday, so the local Classic Rock station is honoring him with a day of twofers, such as the one I just heard with "Walk Away" & "Pretty Maids All In A Row", which I've never heard on the radio before.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 November 2014 01:38 (nine years ago) link
happy birthday joe
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 21 November 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link
SEEMS TO ME
I would like a day of Joe twofers with just "Walk Away" back to back
― The Velvet Fog called me a motherfucker (Sandy), Friday, 21 November 2014 09:00 (nine years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 November 2014 03:42 (nine years ago) link
or walk away and funk 49
― jbn, Saturday, 22 November 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
Or GO DEEP w/"The Bomber" and "Fred".
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 22 November 2014 17:14 (nine years ago) link
"Over And Over!"
― Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 23 November 2014 19:59 (nine years ago) link
In The Wild: A fellow vendor at this indoor auto swap meet blasting "In The City".
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 30 November 2014 02:10 (nine years ago) link
In The Wild: "Please Come Home For Christmas" on the holiday muzak at Dairy Queen
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 December 2014 20:20 (nine years ago) link
Forbes' 3 highest-paid musical acts of 2014:
1. Dr. Dre: $620 million2. Beyoncé: $115 million3. the Eagles: $100 million
If only Don 'n' Glenn had thought to get into the headphone business....
― Lee626, Saturday, 13 December 2014 12:17 (nine years ago) link
GLENN: Guess we spent too much time getting into the getting head business.
― pplains, Saturday, 13 December 2014 13:22 (nine years ago) link
it is a crime that the Eagles are making $100 million in 2014. they should divide that money amongst this thread's major contributors imo.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:19 (nine years ago) link
or at least give some to Randy!
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:20 (nine years ago) link
yes, that would also work!
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:22 (nine years ago) link
Isn't Leadon on this tour?
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:31 (nine years ago) link
yep, it's:
Glenn Frey - vocals, guitar, keyboardsDon Henley - vocals, drums, guitar, percussionJoe Walsh - vocals, guitar, keyboardsTimothy B. Schmit - bass guitar, vocals, harmonicaBernie Leadon - guitar, banjo, vocals
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:33 (nine years ago) link
Steuart Smith is also in the tour but is apparently not a recognized member of the band
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:36 (nine years ago) link
not looking so rock hard:
http://photogallery.indiatimes.com/celebs/music/history-of-the-eagles-tour/photo/29206576/Glenn-Frey-of-The-Eagles-performs-on-the-History-of-the-Eagles-tour-at-the-Forum-on-Wednesday-January-15-2014-in-Los-Angeles-.jpg
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 December 2014 19:37 (nine years ago) link
jeez. Does the current rider include a big selection of donuts for each gig?
― col, Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:23 (nine years ago) link
a dozen from the sad cafe
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
"Already Gone (to Brunch)"
― col, Saturday, 13 December 2014 20:56 (nine years ago) link
life in the fast food lane
― bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 13 December 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
Pizza Kitchen in the Hotel California
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 December 2014 22:20 (nine years ago) link
Heartburn Tonight
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 December 2014 22:22 (nine years ago) link
Taquito Sunrise
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 December 2014 22:27 (nine years ago) link
peaceful greasy feeling
― bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 13 December 2014 22:40 (nine years ago) link
12-Foot Party Sub Town
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 December 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
busy being flabulous
― bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 13 December 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link
Chug Milkshakes All Night
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 13 December 2014 23:29 (nine years ago) link
You Footlong To The City
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 13 December 2014 23:37 (nine years ago) link
midnight fryer
― bizarro gazzara, Saturday, 13 December 2014 23:47 (nine years ago) link
Jimmy Dean's
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 December 2014 00:37 (nine years ago) link
Fryin' Pies
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link
nice one on jimmy!
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 14 December 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link
"Get Overweight"
― col, Sunday, 14 December 2014 03:14 (nine years ago) link
"Warm smell of Fajitas rising up through the air..."
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 December 2014 03:44 (nine years ago) link
lol to both!
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 14 December 2014 03:51 (nine years ago) link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/ozeagle/Solo%20Years/RockHard.jpghttp://photogallery.indiatimes.com/celebs/music/history-of-the-eagles-tour/photo/29206576/Glenn-Frey-of-The-Eagles-performs-on-the-History-of-the-Eagles-tour-at-the-Forum-on-Wednesday-January-15-2014-in-Los-Angeles-.jpg
ROCKY ROAD
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 December 2014 04:10 (nine years ago) link
Hotel California Pizza Kitchen
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 December 2014 06:45 (nine years ago) link
K Frey C
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 December 2014 06:51 (nine years ago) link
lol @ HCPK
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 14 December 2014 06:53 (nine years ago) link
You can't hiiiiide those key lime pies
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 December 2014 06:54 (nine years ago) link
Hamburgler's Blues
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 December 2014 07:02 (nine years ago) link
Pretty Meringues All In A Row
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 14 December 2014 07:09 (nine years ago) link
Taco Bell Freezes Over
― Lee626, Sunday, 14 December 2014 07:19 (nine years ago) link
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 December 2014 07:29 (nine years ago) link
oh oops sorry grisso
The Eat Is On
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 14 December 2014 07:32 (nine years ago) link
The Last Dessert
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 14 December 2014 07:42 (nine years ago) link
Happy Funky New Year!
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/xmasback.jpg
http://youtu.be/5dGdrNP-NMk
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 January 2015 19:17 (nine years ago) link
In The Wild: I'm filling out this massive consumer survey booklet, and in the music section this 'type of music' appears:
60s to 70s Pop Classic Rock (Beatles, Eagles)
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 09:00 (nine years ago) link
lol thats a good handwavey genre
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 22:10 (nine years ago) link
Beagles
― Sir Lord Baltimora (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link
Counting down to Kanye "Giving A Career" to Henley.
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 January 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link
Eatles?
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 7 January 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link
Eagles in the wild -- on the new Lydia Lunch album: http://youtu.be/thP459TELJE
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 10 February 2015 13:25 (nine years ago) link
Greil Marcus's Village Voice review of The Long Run. Far from a good review--the word "tepid" comes up--but, coming in the middle of punk, which Marcus was in full swoon over, not entirely unsympathetic, either: "The Eagles’ sixth album isn’t dishonest, nor is the band just going through the motions..."
http://greilmarcus.net/2015/03/10/the-eagles-the-long-run-1279/
― clemenza, Tuesday, 10 March 2015 14:00 (nine years ago) link
In the wild: "Those Shoes" at Five Guys
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 April 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link
Desperation with a kosher hot dogAnd all those jerkoffs with their fries five guys style,Oh which free topping you gonna choose?
― pplains, Thursday, 9 April 2015 00:39 (eight years ago) link
Wisconsin Clothing Company Makes Court-Ordered Apology To Don Henley, Promises To ‘Take It Easy’ On The Shirt Puns
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 17 April 2015 16:11 (eight years ago) link
In The Wild: TMZ Live just aired a story about one of Randy Meisner's friends is filing for conservatorship over him because "(Randy's) wife is letting him drink himself to death" because he's easier to deal with drunk.
Of course, Randy & wife dispute this.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 19:23 (eight years ago) link
:/
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 20:12 (eight years ago) link
http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/29/eagles-founding-member-randy-meisner-conservatorship-alcohol-drunk/
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 21:04 (eight years ago) link
We wondered what the former Eagle made a year -- "between $300k and $500k a year."
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 21:09 (eight years ago) link
...or what Don'n'Glenn make per show on the Eagles' current "We Like Currency" world tour.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 April 2015 21:24 (eight years ago) link
so, wait, does tmz have a reporter who spends all his time looking for rock-related conservatorship filings? 'cause dude's having a busy week.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 30 April 2015 01:26 (eight years ago) link
What what well, yeah
http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/index.php/archives/2015/05/13/today-at-the-tower/
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 May 2015 21:02 (eight years ago) link
In the wild: Three's Company rerun, Suzanne Somers has just revealed she's turned down two tickets to tonight's Eagles concert so Jack can make her dinner.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 21:11 (eight years ago) link
Smart choice.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link
I had no idea there was such a site: ''Search Everything Said on TV''
You better hurry up anget ready.00:03:12 For what?00:03:13 The eagles concert.00:03:14 I'm not going.00:03:15 You turned down the tickets?00:03:16 Jack, I can see the eagles anytime.00:03:18 I've been looking forward to this dinner all day.00:03:21 Chrissy, forget about dinner.00:03:23 I mean, think of janet.00:03:25 Look at that face.00:03:26 Look at how disappointed she is.00:03:28 No, it's not disappointment, jack.00:03:31 It's hunger.00:03:32 What's for dinner?00:03:32 Boy, I don't know. it sure smells good.00:03:34 Chrissy, I haven't started cooking anything yet.00:03:37 You better get started so you can catch up with the smell.
― pplains, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 21:47 (eight years ago) link
No, it's not disappointment, jack. It's hunger.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:26 (eight years ago) link
I'm kinda sad now that there wasn't an Eagles sitcom appearance ala the Doobie Bros. on What's Happening!?!.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 May 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link
This is stretching the definition of eagles in the wildfrom a recent dick morris column:
There’s a new kid in town and Hillary Clinton, to quote the Eagles, is likely saying “I don’t want to hear any more.”
― jbn, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 01:11 (eight years ago) link
I don't think she's quoting the Eagles, but being quoted about the Eagles.
― pplains, Wednesday, 3 June 2015 01:15 (eight years ago) link
Eagles within eagles.
― I might like you better if we Yelped together (Phil D.), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 01:21 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/VLK3b.gif
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 June 2015 02:24 (eight years ago) link
Holy Shit:http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/former-eagles-member-randy-meisner-allegedly-threatened-murder-suicide-20150709
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 10 July 2015 03:54 (eight years ago) link
oops...
― scott seward, Friday, 10 July 2015 04:39 (eight years ago) link
Ack that is really sad, what a mess. Sorta sounds like him & his wife are veering into Randy Quaid territory :(
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 10 July 2015 05:38 (eight years ago) link
well I watched the first half of the documentary the other night. it's funny to see this and enjoy it as a good documentary because of all the stories etc. .... and then as soon as they cut to the actual music I'm like "oh right, THAT song, ugh what a piece of garbage"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 July 2015 15:53 (eight years ago) link
I couldn't make it through all of part 2, that started to get painful. But after I went to bed last night I did end up having a dream where I was working at a pizza parlor managed by Joe Walsh
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
a+ dream
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:42 (eight years ago) link
he was not a "good" manager but he was a "fun" manager in that there was a lot of manic goofing off and then desperate last minute solving of self-inflicted problems
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
also how is it possible that that doc makes it look like Joe Walsh was the only Eagle to go through rehab/have a drug problem?
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 21:41 (eight years ago) link
'Cause Don'n'Glenn had final cut?
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 21:44 (eight years ago) link
― Οὖτις,
irl lol at this
― balls, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 22:40 (eight years ago) link
So when they get honored by the Kennedy Center later this year (a thing that is inexplicably happening), who's gonna be there? Will Don und Glenn try to keep Felder away?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link
what are they mad at felder about for now
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:27 (eight years ago) link
Breathing.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 July 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
crying
― difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 July 2015 17:10 (eight years ago) link
So guess who stopped in town the other night.
I swear, every review of this tour I've read starts out with basically the same paragraph:
History of the Eagles, they called it. Glenn Frey and Don Henley came across like college professors for a time at Verizon Arena Monday night, teaching and explaining. But count Joe Walsh as the rebellious student who pouted a bit until the show got to the part he liked. And that was also the part that the 15,525 fans were apparently there to see, according to the frequent roars of approval.
― pplains, Friday, 31 July 2015 21:18 (eight years ago) link
GLENN: Yeah, Professors at Budweiser University!
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 July 2015 21:20 (eight years ago) link
https://youtu.be/a8FmCCEnNeU
― balls, Friday, 21 August 2015 04:32 (eight years ago) link
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:13 (eight years ago) link
old, but the comments are fun. don't think it was ever posted here?
― scott seward, Tuesday, 1 September 2015 16:16 (eight years ago) link
Molotov-Ribbentrop, as balls said on Facebook:
Mr. Joel then parodied country music’s lyrics by reciting an original verse that rhymed “Mama cooked up the grits” with an unprintable bodily function.
The conversation proceeded at this sort of informal pace, and although Mr. Joel asked most of the questions, Mr. Henley often deferred to Mr. Joel, of Long Island. Later, a discussion of Mr. Henley’s writing practices led Mr. Joel to admit that he had lost the desire to finish his songs.
“We need some of your stuff right now,” Mr. Henley said. “You and I have been threatening to write together for many years.” A wave of applause cut the singer off and muted his counterpart’s response.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/09/21/don-henley-and-billy-joel-at-92nd-street-y-trade-stories-about-a-lifetime-of-songwriting/?smid=fb-share
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:17 (eight years ago) link
Lyrical shoutout on the new Lana Del Rey:
Sometimes I wake up in the morning to red, blue and yellow skiesit's so crazy I could drink it like tequila sunrisePut on that Hotel California, dance around like I'm insaneI feel free when I see no one and nobody knows my name
DON: It's heartening to know that upon the eve of the release of Cass County, my first new music in many a moon, that a younger artist like Ms. Del Rey can find space in her lyrics to acknowledge our role in the great California myth while adding her own distinct signature to that tradition. It proves that not only have the Eagles stood the test of time, but we still have a lot to offer the future.
GLENN: Speaking of California and offerings, I wouldn't mind Yorba Linda-ing Del Rey in the Burbank until her Van Nuys pop out!
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 September 2015 00:59 (eight years ago) link
"I explained to somebody the other day, they asked, 'Why do you think the Eagles survived so long as a group?' And I said it's because regardless of how much egomania any of us might have and regardless of all the talk about our infighting and struggling, we managed to subjugate our egos enough to keep that group together and to keep going because we realized a thing that all nations, cultures, and societies must realize — the survival of the individual depends on the survival of the whole."
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/don-henley-on-sloppy-songwriting-national-values-and-cultural-decay-20150928
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 September 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
GLENN: I'm much more about the survival of the holes myself.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 28 September 2015 21:50 (eight years ago) link
― pplains, Monday, 28 September 2015 21:53 (eight years ago) link
Does he ever demand preferential treatment? “Oh no, no, no,” he protests. “Sometimes I send Tony, my road manager, in in advance to say: ‘Mr Henley would like to come in, and could he please have a table at the back away from the rest of the patrons so that he doesn’t get disturbed?’” Technically speaking, that does probably constitute preferential treatment, but still.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 October 2015 16:05 (eight years ago) link
Henley's Cass County actually doesn't suck! Quite possible that this totally unexpected impression has led me to initial overrating, but here's what I said on Rolling Country (hearing npr's post of the deluxe edition, with those four bonus covers, really did help)Don Henley's guest-star-laden Cass County turned out to be surprisingly painless, enjoyable, even. Starts with one of four well-chosen covers (all present on this deluxe edition, that is): Tift Merritt's "Bramble Rose," which he starts in relatively good voice---not just lack of the strain I remember; he actually seems to have a feel for the phrasing and pace---then hands it off to Miranda Lambert, who passes a verse to Mick Jagger---also good, even though he plays it straight. "Cost of Living" meets Merle Haggard, Martina McBride's good on "Old Flame," although the story gets cut short, probably because it's based on a real-life episode, according to him. Dolly Parton is excellent, duh, on the Louvin Brothers' "When I Stop Dreaming," but she doesn't obliterate Henley vocal, so give points to both vox.Some other voices are more in the background, like "two out of three Dixie Chicks," Vince Gill, Lucinda---though NPR streams aren't always as good as they should be, and my headphones are certainly not for audiophiles, but I like the way he melds near-subliminal yet unmistakable Lee Ann Womack to a chorus that would otherwise probably get monotonous.Even at least one cratedigger's catnip find, at least for me: "She Sang Hymns Out of Tune," with a low-key, sneaky surrealism that surely suggested some Gram Parsons originals, and had me thinking that this presentation surely is the mature, generous Henley, since Parsons reportedly loathed the Eagles--but apparently it was written by one Jesse Lee Kincaid, and recorded by Nilsson, on his Pandemonium Shadow Show (also by the Dillards on Wheatstraw Suite).Speaking of the Eagles, I never was a big fan, but the overall sense of radio-ready structures here even extends to up- and downtempo tracks that would improve several of their albums.Catchiness etc. also gets past most editorial moments, so more points for not playing the old man card too much (trepidation of atmospheric "Train In The Distance" could be felt by anyone, most likely).
― dow, Thursday, 1 October 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
Even at least one cratedigger's catnip find, at least for me: "She Sang Hymns Out of Tune," with a low-key, sneaky surrealism that surely suggested some Gram Parsons originals, and had me thinking that this presentation surely is the mature, generous Henley, since Parsons reportedly loathed the Eagles--but apparently it was written by one Jesse Lee Kincaid, and recorded by Nilsson, on his Pandemonium Shadow Show (also by the Dillards on Wheatstraw Suite)
Kincaid's original is on Rhino's LA Nuggets box, and it was also recorded by Hearts & Flowers, featuring future Eagle Bernie Leadon.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 October 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link
Thanks! Will check out those earlier versions, and try to dig up something else re Kincaid too.
Also I picked up Felder's hefty Between Heaven and Hell in the library, and read the whole thing that afternoon, which never happens. Gist: his father comes off as a self-made, self-righteous, self-torturing workaholic and skinflint, and Don follows suit during his Eagles years, with infinitely more bucks and perks than blue collar Dad ever had, of course. Furthermore, Dr. Phil, he somewhat recreates his own defiant-dependent teen relationship with Dad, now played by Henley and Frey.When he finally gets his ass fired, after having papers served in the studio, he actually calls back, all crying---"Try to seek some higher ground in this, Fingers," Frey counsels, and the ex-Mrs. Felder fervently seconds. So he does, with this book of excellent anecdotes (also careful references to ongoing litigation), from early years in Florida---girlfriend accuses him of stepping out with blondes, who turn out to be pre-facial hair, though tressed-for-success Gregg and Duane)[;"Tommy" Petty is his guitar student; Stephen Stills is "the funniest kid I ever met," passing through town while running away from military school, back to his parents (though every kid I knew back then who was sent to military school, was sent for a good reason); Bernie Leadon is his local connection to the budding West Coast folk-country rock scene.Also lots of good stuff about "The Gods," as everybody who worked with and for the Eagles called Henley and Frey; supposedly many of these--even the Gods themselves, individually---called Felder up to trade the latest atrocity stories. But I also get, in terms of more perhaps unintended reveals, that the Gods were trying to keep their associates' and their own assholes-with-money tendencies somewhat in line, at least for the sake of making even more money (by keeping up the musical standards, for instance). Nevertheless, Felder and I are somewhat respectful of, for instance, Joe Walsh's working out his frustrations on whole floors of hotels (and he lasted longer than any non-God in the line-up, I think, so maybe the mayhem helped).
― dow, Thursday, 1 October 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
Dillards version of that song is great
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 1 October 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
Will check---should add that my pop psych take on Felder is mine, not his, but the stories do seem to add up.
― dow, Thursday, 1 October 2015 18:53 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/CWuB2c6.jpg
Gosh, just give me a second. I know it's got something to do with a song, right?
― pplains, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link
watched half of that Documentary Now! "The Blue Jean Committee" episode which is clearly a satire of the Eagles doc (Irving Azoff even appears) - mildly funny
― Οὖτις, Monday, 5 October 2015 22:08 (eight years ago) link
Don Henley Ejected a Concertgoer for Shouting Don Felder’s Name
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 9 November 2015 20:04 (eight years ago) link
I won't even paste that final sentence, but leave it to Henley to never let you leave without an awkward feeling of yech.
― pplains, Monday, 9 November 2015 20:19 (eight years ago) link
In The Wild: "How Long" at Rudy's BBQ.
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 November 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
Brian Wilson w the sick burn:
We were in the dressing room at this fundraiser in New York, and Don Henley and Timothy Schmidt from The Eagles walked in. And Timothy was very nice, but Don was just kind of aloof and walking around the room. And finally, after a few minutes of chatting, Don pulls out a copy of Pet Sounds on CD that he wants Brian to sign.
So Brian grabs it and he signs, "To Don, thanks for all the great music." And he's handing it back to Don, but before Don can take it, he grabs it back and he crosses out "great" and puts "good music." (Laughs) And the thing is, there's no irony there. He's not being funny. He's really thinking, "I wrote 'great,' but I don't think it's great. But it's good. It's good music." And he handed it back to Don, and it was perfect.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:35 (eight years ago) link
amazing i hope that story is true
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link
if only the Eagles had exercised such editorial precision
― Brad C., Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
from here: http://m.csindy.com/coloradosprings/darian-sahanaja-on-playing-with-brian-wilson/Content?oid=3105483
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 17 November 2015 16:43 (eight years ago) link
AVClub interview with dude from Baroness:
Eagles, “Take It To The Limit” (1975)JB: I became an Eagles fan this year, which is the craziest thing. I hated the Eagles so badly that we would do tours, and I would talk so much smack and be so enraged by any and all Eagles-related speech. It’s always struck me as odd that there’s become an assumption, or I think an American assumption, that musicians listen to their genre and don’t really go too far outside, or if they do it’s very specific like, “I play grindcore, but I listen to powerviolence.” But I listen to everything, and I’ve definitely got lots of love for dad rock. There’s no doubt about it. The Eagles thing was this year, though. In fact, it was like a month before we went into the studio.The A.V. Club: What was it that brought you over to the dad rock dark side with the Eagles, specifically?JB: You know what it was? It was that documentary that just proves categorically that they’re sociopaths. It was a game maker. They’re open about it. Now it’s not an issue for me anymore. I was like, how can anybody like this stuff? These guys are complete lunatics, and they’re just wrong. Oh no, no, no. That’s part of it, so I get it. Now I like it.AVC: So what’s the Eagles song for you now that you’ve been converted?JB: I’m going to pick a weird one, but I think “Take It To The Limit” is incredible. You gotta understand the background. I hated the Eagles. We all know the songs. We all know the words. We all think the guitar solo in “Hotel California” is cool, but the rest of the song maybe not so much, or that’s how I felt for a long time. But then I watch that documentary, and I’d been complaining for such a long time about how it seems to me that in pop music—and by pop music I mean anything that’s big enough that millions of people have heard of it, but there’s become this dearth of personality. I’m sure there’s a bazillion reasons that that’s happened, but it’s just too hard to pull off anymore. Even if you’re Kanye West, and you’ve got personality for miles, eventually the press and your fans are going to demonize you for it—way back when it was pre-iPod, pre-internet, pre-cellphone, it was just guys doing crazy things behind closed doors, and you’d hear about it, but it was just rumors and that’s all you heard.But with the documentary, I could just hear in Don Henley’s voice and in the sultry stylings of Glenn Frey, I could hear that these guys are total narcissists. You can hear it, man. There’s one thing when you emanate self-confidence. There’s another thing when you self-idolize, and you can hear that. I could always hear it, and I heard it as a bad thing like “Hey, this doesn’t represent me and my kind.” We were getting ready to record Purple months ago, and Netflix had the documentary, and we all just decided to watch it.Once I realized that those guys were as openly self-involved as they sounded, it was like the veil was drawn back and all of a sudden I gained a kind of perverse respect for them. (Laughs.) I mean, it’s perverse. I’m not going to try to rationalize it and encourage it, but their openness about that level of character, it made me kind of dig them. Furthermore, I mean, watching them perform is kind of staggering. I think it’s when they’re in Hollywood, and there’s a whole section of the documentary just on “Take It To The Limit” where you realize that Randy Meisner is basically living in this self-inflicted hell that is the ending minute-and-a-half of the song where he really does in fact take it to the limit. It’s like The Eagles doing their version of the ending to “Overkill” by Motörhead. He’s hitting those notes, and of course it’s beautiful, and it’s amazing, and those songs are really great and especially that one in particular.I like it. It’s barely rock at all, but I did gain an appreciation for it, and it kind of became a thing. What was most interesting to me was that he has to sing these notes at the end of the song because they’re iconic notes. Even the year it came out they were iconic notes, and they’re high and hard to hit even for him with the highest voice in the band. To see him suffering at that level and really, truly trying to perform that song night after night, I got sympathetic. I liked the song enough as it was, but now there was a new layer to it. I’ve kind of been obsessed with it since then. When I go to a party and put that on my playlist, it doesn’t gain me a lot of popularity, but it’s a really good song. I’m being honest; they’re really good songwriters. I wish the style was a little harder, but maybe then it wouldn’t have worked as well. Who knows.
JB: I became an Eagles fan this year, which is the craziest thing. I hated the Eagles so badly that we would do tours, and I would talk so much smack and be so enraged by any and all Eagles-related speech. It’s always struck me as odd that there’s become an assumption, or I think an American assumption, that musicians listen to their genre and don’t really go too far outside, or if they do it’s very specific like, “I play grindcore, but I listen to powerviolence.” But I listen to everything, and I’ve definitely got lots of love for dad rock. There’s no doubt about it. The Eagles thing was this year, though. In fact, it was like a month before we went into the studio.
The A.V. Club: What was it that brought you over to the dad rock dark side with the Eagles, specifically?
JB: You know what it was? It was that documentary that just proves categorically that they’re sociopaths. It was a game maker. They’re open about it. Now it’s not an issue for me anymore. I was like, how can anybody like this stuff? These guys are complete lunatics, and they’re just wrong. Oh no, no, no. That’s part of it, so I get it. Now I like it.
AVC: So what’s the Eagles song for you now that you’ve been converted?
JB: I’m going to pick a weird one, but I think “Take It To The Limit” is incredible. You gotta understand the background. I hated the Eagles. We all know the songs. We all know the words. We all think the guitar solo in “Hotel California” is cool, but the rest of the song maybe not so much, or that’s how I felt for a long time. But then I watch that documentary, and I’d been complaining for such a long time about how it seems to me that in pop music—and by pop music I mean anything that’s big enough that millions of people have heard of it, but there’s become this dearth of personality. I’m sure there’s a bazillion reasons that that’s happened, but it’s just too hard to pull off anymore. Even if you’re Kanye West, and you’ve got personality for miles, eventually the press and your fans are going to demonize you for it—way back when it was pre-iPod, pre-internet, pre-cellphone, it was just guys doing crazy things behind closed doors, and you’d hear about it, but it was just rumors and that’s all you heard.
But with the documentary, I could just hear in Don Henley’s voice and in the sultry stylings of Glenn Frey, I could hear that these guys are total narcissists. You can hear it, man. There’s one thing when you emanate self-confidence. There’s another thing when you self-idolize, and you can hear that. I could always hear it, and I heard it as a bad thing like “Hey, this doesn’t represent me and my kind.” We were getting ready to record Purple months ago, and Netflix had the documentary, and we all just decided to watch it.
Once I realized that those guys were as openly self-involved as they sounded, it was like the veil was drawn back and all of a sudden I gained a kind of perverse respect for them. (Laughs.) I mean, it’s perverse. I’m not going to try to rationalize it and encourage it, but their openness about that level of character, it made me kind of dig them. Furthermore, I mean, watching them perform is kind of staggering. I think it’s when they’re in Hollywood, and there’s a whole section of the documentary just on “Take It To The Limit” where you realize that Randy Meisner is basically living in this self-inflicted hell that is the ending minute-and-a-half of the song where he really does in fact take it to the limit. It’s like The Eagles doing their version of the ending to “Overkill” by Motörhead. He’s hitting those notes, and of course it’s beautiful, and it’s amazing, and those songs are really great and especially that one in particular.
I like it. It’s barely rock at all, but I did gain an appreciation for it, and it kind of became a thing. What was most interesting to me was that he has to sing these notes at the end of the song because they’re iconic notes. Even the year it came out they were iconic notes, and they’re high and hard to hit even for him with the highest voice in the band. To see him suffering at that level and really, truly trying to perform that song night after night, I got sympathetic. I liked the song enough as it was, but now there was a new layer to it. I’ve kind of been obsessed with it since then. When I go to a party and put that on my playlist, it doesn’t gain me a lot of popularity, but it’s a really good song. I’m being honest; they’re really good songwriters. I wish the style was a little harder, but maybe then it wouldn’t have worked as well. Who knows.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 14:38 (eight years ago) link
"dad rock"
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
don is about to be interviewed by Howard stern…I am quivering with excitement…surely HS will have agreed to not bring up the two teenagers ODing incident, among many many other provisos…
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 14:52 (eight years ago) link
Recently started reading Warren Zanes' new biography of Tom Petty. Had no idea he went to high school in Gainesville w/both Bernie Leadon and Don Felder.
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
you would have known that if you had read all 5274 posts on this thread.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link
Hey, take it easy.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link
xp Well, yeah
― Resting Bushface (Phil D.), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:31 (eight years ago) link
The Baroness guy interview gives context for the "dad rock" wammy. Basically it was a piece about him later in life coming to grips with/coming to love a lot of the light rock he derided as a teen. Actually, I thought there was a lot of good/interesting/entertaining/perceptive stuff in here:
http://www.avclub.com/article/john-baizley-discusses-simple-beauty-dad-rock-and--229328
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:45 (eight years ago) link
dang that documentary did wonders for their image
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:49 (eight years ago) link
Once I realized that those guys were as openly self-involved as they sounded
not to really pick on the guy, but it was always obvious these people were huge narcissists. the doc didn't exactly make that revelation. trying to figure out why it's "cool" now. people posit that it is bc they are now unapologetic about it, as if in the past they were pretending to be kind of humble or something.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:52 (eight years ago) link
"the sultry stylings of Glenn Frey"
― Boz Scaggs was Adele back in 1976 (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:55 (eight years ago) link
"the glistening genital warts on Don Henley"
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:56 (eight years ago) link
Well, I think the doc did open a lot of eyes to a band many/most had only heard. There were a handful of songs I didn't even know were Eagles songs until I saw the doc.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 16:57 (eight years ago) link
Eagles = Dad Rock ... We're getting close to, if not past, the point where bands from the 70s are "dad rock".
Foo Fighters, Wilco, fathers taking their sons to see Straight Outta Compton... that's the era of Dad Rock we're now in.
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link
yeah i had a deep and abiding hatred, had read multiple interviews where don henley gloated over the eagles having been more successful than the new york dolls so fuck the critics where are the new york dolls now huh, i knew these fuckers, and the doc was still revelatory. the first half of it is pretty great, i didn't finish the second half, just perfunctory rehab and reunion stuff. man between that doc's growing cult, their profile (and classic rock's profile in general) shrinking enough that they don't suffer from present overexposure, and stuff like blue jean committee i do wonder if somehow the eagles could be reclaimed. may god have mercy on our souls.
― balls, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:43 (eight years ago) link
it's working out the way Henley planned: where are Foghat and Zep on AOR radio now motherfuckers!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 December 2015 17:47 (eight years ago) link
great interview with DH on howard stern today
― flappy bird, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 18:19 (eight years ago) link
the era of Dad Rock we're now in.
i think at this point basically all rock is dad rock.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/QYifvUP.gif
― pplains, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 21:35 (eight years ago) link
I mean, Well yeah.
"Get Over It" was blasting out of an apartment window in town a couple days ago.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 09:40 (eight years ago) link
BITCHIN A FIT
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 11:44 (eight years ago) link
I have the first six Eagles albums on my iPod and tried shuffling them yesterday and was struck anew by the Grand Canyon-sized gulf in quality between anything they released as a single and anything they didn't. I mean, there's literally not one track on their albums where you can say, "Why wasn't this a single? It would have been a huge hit!" Everything that was a hit deserved to be a hit, but everything else was like having your face shoved into a mountain of rotting garbage.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 12:58 (eight years ago) link
Get over it!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2015 13:15 (eight years ago) link
Our knowledge was dearly won, Phil.
Oh really? Didn't know that "Chug All Night" had been released as a single. I'll have to look up its chart position and airplay when I get a moment.
― pplains, Wednesday, 9 December 2015 14:16 (eight years ago) link
uh
Special Tribute to The EaglesMiranda Lambert – “Desperado”
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 31 December 2015 14:33 (eight years ago) link
How Can I Forget?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9VRLBAo2E
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 January 2016 05:00 (eight years ago) link
Also, In The Wild, A FB Status from Huey Lewis that a friend of mine "Liked"
Glenn Frey of The Eagles and I were playing golf at Pebble Beach one time. Scott Ostler, the great sports reporter in San Francisco, said to us, “Well, between you guys, you must have written hundreds of songs,” thinking we had a bunch of songs we never released.Glenn, who has had a lot of hit songs, said, “No, I have used everything I ever wrote.”Writing a great song is not easy. If you write 10 good songs in your life, you are a hall of famer. - Huey
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 2 January 2016 05:03 (eight years ago) link
HUEY: Well, between me, Glenn, and Ray Parker Jr., amirite?
GLENN: Bet I could find a place to park her!
― pplains, Saturday, 2 January 2016 08:25 (eight years ago) link
It's the nature of the business...
http://www.tmz.com/2016/01/18/glenn-frey-the-eagles-dead/
― pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:11 (eight years ago) link
WHAT
THE
FUCK!?!?
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link
I was this close last week to saying something like "Bowie's dead, but hey, all members of the Eagles - past and present - are still alive."
― pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:13 (eight years ago) link
He died of a broken heart.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link
DAVID: As an artist, I wanted to turn my death not into a celebration of my life and career, but into a celebration of the lives of everyone. We are all lost souls floating in a tin can, and yet, it's by joining together that we make this mysterious journey into something with meaning.
GLENN: I know I've joined together with a few lost souls in my day, if you get my drift.
DAVID: I'm sorry, what was your name again?
― pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link
Now I know how Vaughan Meader felt in late '63...
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link
awesome xp
― Van Der Beek's masterpiece (rip van wanko), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link
Chug all night, Glenn.
― col, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link
haha, griss.
― pplains, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:32 (eight years ago) link
Henley still has TBS, who's the Shemp of the Eagles anyway.
irl lol @ Griss
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link
Timothy 'Shemp' Schmidt
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link
so this means Azoff will call MISTER Felder on Wednesday and ask him to rejoin the band, right?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link
"come on, do it for glenn. he hated your guts."
― tylerw, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link
too soon to make intestinal jokes?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link
loll grisso
― lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link
Warm smell of colitis?
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 18 January 2016 22:49 (eight years ago) link
so this means Azoff will call MISTER Felder on Wednesday and ask him to rejoin the band, right?― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 18, 2016 4:38 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 18, 2016 4:38 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
JD Souther, your moment is NOW.
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link
Frey was a dickbag but he sang some a+ harmonies
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 January 2016 23:33 (eight years ago) link
^^^ should be on his headstone and/or should be the entirety of his eulogy.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 January 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link
I've mentioned this before, but in all seriousness I thought he had the best 'Country' voice in the band...it's just when the "Rock" part of the equation came to play the problems started.
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 18 January 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link
Didn't we realize when we started this thing that when Frey lead the band with Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner this country rock synthesis was possiblee?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 January 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link
One Of These Nights really is one of the greatest songs ever recorded, it's just perfect from every angle. even the haytaz upthread are pretty much in raptures over it. i wish they'd done more like that one.
― piscesx, Monday, 18 January 2016 23:55 (eight years ago) link
he made Don Felder cry, the heaven or hell decision must be taken v seriously
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 00:08 (eight years ago) link
Glenn Frey was at least partially responsible for this, so that's not a bad thing (and I fully realize I've posted this clip maybe seven times in this thread, but it's the one justification for the Eagles' existence):https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r0QteIu_uA
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 00:48 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4k3WKtDrVo
― longform Gordon thinkpiece (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 01:00 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsn4oCHiH_4
― longform Gordon thinkpiece (Eazy), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 01:24 (eight years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/cameron-crowe-looks-back-on-his-1975-eagles-cover-story-20150817?page=3
They posed for a photo by the amps, arms around each other, and we exchanged phone numbers. I stayed in touch with them. (Little did I know, that fuzzy group shot would be one of the only known photos of all four original members hugging each other. Looking at it today, it has the same slightly surreal quality of one of those photos of the Loch Ness Monster.)
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 January 2016 01:27 (eight years ago) link
In The Wild: "Already Gone" & "Ol' 55" blasting out loudly in the bar I just served over Pub Quiz in...for my part, I spun "Heartache Tonight" between rounds.
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:38 (eight years ago) link
Shit, and now "Outlaw Man"!
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 January 2016 04:43 (eight years ago) link
I was “Get Down Clown.” And Glenn, who along with Henley made a regular habit of charming the ladies with gallant good manners, was “the Teen King.”
lol he was named "The Teen King" for his gallant good manners yes
i tip my fedora to you, good sir
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link
why does every other sentence in this make me want to punch everyone involved?
a natural reaction to anything to do with The Fucking Eagles
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 23 January 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
To gain the perfect drum sound, Bell often instructed the drummer to put a wallet on the snare drum. Wallet on the Snare was one of the working titles for the album.
Had to go back and check out Chug All Night again and
― Ismael Klata, Thursday, August 22, 2013 12:34 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
near floored me once again.
― pplains, Saturday, 23 January 2016 20:49 (eight years ago) link
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/eagles-members-jackson-browne-uniting-for-glenn-frey-grammy-tribute-20160210
― "Damn the Taquitos" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link
get over it
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/eieR1m5.png
GLENN: You know...
― pplains, Wednesday, 10 February 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link
hee
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 10 February 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link
Holy Shit:http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/former-eagles-member-randy-meisner-allegedly-threatened-murder-suicide-20150709― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:54 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Love, Wilco (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, July 9, 2015 11:54 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
http://www.tmz.com/2016/03/07/eagles-wife-shot-to-death-randy-meisner/
― how's life, Monday, 7 March 2016 14:44 (eight years ago) link
holy shit
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 March 2016 14:46 (eight years ago) link
oh jesus
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link
...and I thought this revive would be about Walsh opening for Bad Company this summer.
But seriously, WOW--you knew there'd be no happy ending here, but still...
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 March 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
http://www.lapdonline.org/home/news_view/60295
― karla jay vespers, Monday, 7 March 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link
hmmm
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 March 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link
that is one hell of a quick "thorough investigation"
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 7 March 2016 22:13 (eight years ago) link
Too soon?
I heard about you and that manThere's just one thing I don't understandYou say he's a liar and he put out your fireHow come you still got his gun in your hand?
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 March 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link
In The Wild: Vince Gill's (?) faithful cover of "I Can't Tell You Why" at Dairy Queen.
In other news, the boys are the subject of the latest Rolling Stone "Collector's Edition" which boasts extensive new commentary from our Donster.
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 9 May 2016 22:15 (seven years ago) link
― A Made Man In The Mellow Mafia (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, November 9, 2013 9:11 PM
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2016 15:27 (seven years ago) link
http://www.glennfreyonline.com/images/orangetexturesidejmsepia.jpg
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:33 (seven years ago) link
what would they about Trump
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 May 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link
DON: The fact that someone like Donald Trump can actually be viable GOP presidential candidate just shows that for all the records and concert tickets we've sold, all the lives we've touched in song, that no one really was listening to us when we were performing "The Last Resort", or when I did "Gimme What You Got" or "Workin' It" in my also well-regarded solo performances. Like it or not, We are truly in "The Garden of Allah" now.
GLENN's GHOST: I wouldn't mind spending some time in "The Garden of Melania" right now though.
― Now I Know How Joan of Arcadia Felt (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 20 May 2016 03:19 (seven years ago) link
In The Wild: "Wasted Time" on the classic rock muzak at this bar I fixing to help run a Quiz at.
― Kenneth Without Anger (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 July 2016 00:30 (seven years ago) link
Schmit recently debuted the album's breezy lead single, "Red Dirt Road," which pays tribute to the soil of Hawaiian island Kaua'i."There's some rich, deep soil there," he told Rolling Stone. "You have a good chance of growing a plumeria tree by just sticking a branch of a plumeria into the ground. It's unbelievable.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 August 2016 17:24 (seven years ago) link
Timothy B. Schmit: The Boring One
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 August 2016 19:47 (seven years ago) link
now thats what i call a hippie
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 August 2016 03:37 (seven years ago) link
http://kvoa.images.worldnow.com/images/11981832_G.jpg
http://www.kvoa.com/story/33256879/life-size-bronze-statue-of-glenn-frey-installed-in-winslow?utm_medium=social&utm_source=News_4_Tucson_-_KVOA
― a full playlist of presidential sex jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 17:39 (seven years ago) link
why does the statue look like Bob from Twin Peaks?
― col, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
"Looking for statues of Pat Tillman and Glenn Frey? Well there's only one state where you can find 'em BOTH."
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 September 2016 20:03 (seven years ago) link
Arizona aka Nightmare Fuel
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 September 2016 22:47 (seven years ago) link
says it was Glenn's bandhttp://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/article/Don-Henley-says-the-Eagles-are-done-it-was-10640729.php?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&utm_content=395530&utm_campaign=0
― dow, Wednesday, 30 November 2016 23:50 (seven years ago) link
man this thing was three years ago!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 December 2016 00:51 (seven years ago) link
― a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 December 2016 01:33 (seven years ago) link
"It would just seem like greed or something," says Henley.
― pplains, Thursday, 1 December 2016 02:22 (seven years ago) link
carve that on his tombstone
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 December 2016 02:24 (seven years ago) link
...alongside the complete, unabridged lyrics to "The Garden of Allah".
― a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 December 2016 03:11 (seven years ago) link
*including the rap*
― a full playlist of presidential apocalypse jams (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 December 2016 03:12 (seven years ago) link
Schmidt and Walsh's contracts stipulate that they get buried with him.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 December 2016 03:14 (seven years ago) link
I'd forgotten that Bob Seger co-wrote "Heartache Tonight"; he showed up to sing it at the Kennedy Center Honors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxbwqTideE8
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Z86MLah.gif
― pplains, Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:01 (seven years ago) link
HEARTACHE TONIGHTGLENN: …and then they sold 12 million records, and everything changed! As Bob Dylan said, “They deceived me into thinking I had something to protect.” And that’s what happened with us. We made it, and it ate us. The Long Run became, indeed, the long run. It was a difficult record to make overall, but I loved “Heartache Tonight.” Whenever Bob Seger was in L.A., he always used to come over and visit me, and he’d visit Don, too, and play us stuff he was working on — and we would do the same. I seem to remember that I had the verse thing going on for “Heartache Tonight,” and I was showing it to Seger, and we were jammin’ — I think we were jammin’ on electric guitars at LaFontaine — and then he blurted out the chorus. That’s how “Heartache” started. Then Bob disappeared, and J.D., Don, and I finished that song up. No heavy lyrics — the song is more of a romp — and that’s what it was intended to be.
One of the revelations from the solo listening thread was that away from Henley & Seger, Glen couldn't write a meat and potatoes rocker to save his ass.
― "I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:02 (seven years ago) link
uh wait -- you don't like "Party Town"?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:21 (seven years ago) link
KEYSERSOZE1965 11 months agoMy local rock station WJMX used to play this every Friday afternoon at 5:00 to signal the start of the weekend. Rest in Peace Glenn.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:23 (seven years ago) link
XP: It's no "Chug All Night".
― "I must believe that my charm was not in my ass." (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 December 2016 23:28 (seven years ago) link
It'll never end...
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/eagles-vince-gill/
In addition to the previously reported addition of Deacon Frey, who will step into the spot left vacant with the passing of his father Glenn, the group will be joined by veteran country artist Vince Gill. The Los Angeles Times reports that Gill will split vocal duties with the younger Frey on Glenn’s songs.Eagles co-founder Don Henley, who earlier referred to Deacon’s entrance as a modern musical version of the old “guild system, where the father is the master and the son is the apprentice,” admitted that he viewed the group as finished after Glenn’s passing, but quoted Ralph Waldo Emerson while exercising his right to change his mind: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
Eagles co-founder Don Henley, who earlier referred to Deacon’s entrance as a modern musical version of the old “guild system, where the father is the master and the son is the apprentice,” admitted that he viewed the group as finished after Glenn’s passing, but quoted Ralph Waldo Emerson while exercising his right to change his mind: “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:19 (six years ago) link
oh shut the fuck up
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link
what a fuckin tool
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link
...viewed the group as finished after Frey's passing but remembered the fat stacks of cash he loved so much & decided he had been too hasty
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link
young female eagles fan: but i'm 17 and you're 70. gross.
don: think of it as the old guild system, where i am the master and you are the apprentice.
fan: seriously?
ghost of glenn: well, yeah.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
"I thought the Eagles were finished, but then I realized, wait, if the Eagles aren't touring, how will I get paid more money than Don Felder?"
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:09 (six years ago) link
Deacon, huh
Turn up the Eagles; the neighbors are listening
― glumdalclitch, Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:14 (six years ago) link
"who else can I add to the band & bully in a way that would make Glenn proud"
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 June 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/QHL8ugE.jpg
Things that just have to be Tim and Eric skits
― pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:00 (six years ago) link
I was on a image search for sons of the current Eagles (when I realized wtf am I doing? and stopped.)
Besides that photo above, also discovered that Henley is only the 4th richest drummer. Without looking, can you name the top 3?
― pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:09 (six years ago) link
the eagles are turning into the justice society of america
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link
I was on a image search for sons of the current Eagles (when I realized wtf am I doing? and stopped.)Besides that photo above, also discovered that Henley is only the 4th richest drummer. Without looking, can you name the top 3?
I'd say
RingoLarsUhhhhh... Neil Peart?
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:12 (six years ago) link
Grohl
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link
Phil Collins
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link
gary young
― heck i've even been an 'oyster pirate' (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 1 June 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link
Ringo, Phil & Dave.
― pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:11 (six years ago) link
What in the living fuck.
http://i.imgur.com/u1eJUK1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dGqKjGT.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fbZfVrL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/e8X1m2U.png http://i.imgur.com/2K25s6w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8L55MyG.png
http://i.imgur.com/jTEoMWY.png
― pplains, Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:18 (six years ago) link
...and Ringo says he's sorry.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 22:24 (six years ago) link
I always wonder about the sources for lists like this. Is Grohl really richer than Larry Mullen, who's been doing megatours with the most popular live band in the world for decades and, due to the way they split songwriting credits, gets publishing royalties for every one of their songs?
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:07 (six years ago) link
Yeah, that struck me as odd, too. And surely Charlie Watts has more dough than Grohl?
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:20 (six years ago) link
The saddest story ever told: For sale, one cut rock tooth never used
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:51 (six years ago) link
Henley came in 4th despite having the biggest album ever and <literally> being Satan.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 1 June 2017 23:52 (six years ago) link
The last sentence here is what might make this list so questionable: The figures contained in this list were acquired from all publicly available information including salaries, real estate holdings, divorces, record sales, royalties and endorsements. The final net worths come from a formula that takes out taxes, manager's fees, agents' fees, and lifestyle.
#1: Ringo Starr – $300 Million (The Beatles)#2: Dave Grohl – $260 Million (Nirvana, Foo Fighters)#3: Phil Collins – $250 Million (Solo, Genesis)#4: Don Henley – $200 Million (The Eagles)#5: Lars Ulrich – $200 Million (Metallica)#6: Charlie Watts – $170 Million (The Rolling Stones)#7: Roger Taylor – $170 Million (Queen)#8: Larry Mullen Jr – $150 Million (U2)#9: Joey Kramer – $100 Million (Aerosmith)#10: Nick Mason – $100 Million (Pink Floyd)
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/articles/entertainment-articles/30-richest-drummers-world/
― pplains, Friday, 2 June 2017 01:38 (six years ago) link
Still baffled at Grohl's wealth, unless he's like some kind of secret slimeball real estate speculator or something. Or maybe he gets paid a bundle to be an HIV truther.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:02 (six years ago) link
He leads and writes all the songs for one of the most consistently popular rock bands for the last 20 years, and was also in a legacy band that has three or four popular catalog albums for starters.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:30 (six years ago) link
Sure, the Foo Fighters had a bunch of top 10 albums in the US, but only three top 40 hits. I dunno, that doesn't seem like enough to be second to Ringo. Do they really sell out tours? I always envisioned them playing 2/3rds-full mid-level arenas.
And does he have writing credit on Nirvana songs? Because I can't see him making more from Nirvana albums than Watts does from Stones records (though the shitty Klein deal likely means he makes a lot less than he should off the early stuff).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:44 (six years ago) link
IIRC, he's included on some group compositions, but his real Nirvana money comes from sales royalties (they had a great low-advance deal with DGC--Novecelic paid off a whole 30-year mortgage a few months after Nevermind blew up) and merchandising.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link
Grohl got credit on Nevermind. All did.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 2 June 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link
Ah, ok, that makes a little more sense.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:02 (six years ago) link
XP That's some serious $$$ there then. As for the Foos, they're one of those bands like the Red Hot Chilli Peppers whom one probably don't think about much, but are still consistently big on the remaining rock radio outlets, their albums do well out of the gate, and they have an audience big enough to still support headlining large arena/shed tours.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 2 June 2017 03:10 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/6eByG2q.jpg
Are we all just pretending that No. 9 isn't there or what?
http://i.imgur.com/yqH0Vo8.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 2 June 2017 03:42 (six years ago) link
tbh the first sentence makes it questionable too. the only reliable public record in that entire sentence is record sales. and even if you could somehow get the rest of the info, how anyone could translate royalty figures, endorsements, etc., over the years into a believable estimate of someone's net worth at any given point of time is beyond me. at best, they're guessing.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 2 June 2017 07:00 (six years ago) link
http://www.houstonpress.com/music/long-after-the-eagles-don-felder-is-still-soaring-9581454
Mainly of interest for:
When Glenn Frey died rather unexpectedly in January 2016, relations had not changed. But it still came as a shock to Felder, who found out about it after landing at LAX airport when his then-girlfriend’s phone started “blowing up.”Felder had come back from Mexico, where he had been playing with Billy Gibbons, Dave Grohl and Sammy Hagar at a club. When his girlfriend leaned over and said “Glenn’s dead,” the guitarist thought she meant Glen Campbell, who Felder knew and has been suffering from Alzheimer’s for some time.When he told her that wasn’t a surprise, she informed him, “No, Glenn Frey.” And even then, Felder says he thought it was an Internet hoax until it started appearing all over the news, though it was still a shock.
Felder had come back from Mexico, where he had been playing with Billy Gibbons, Dave Grohl and Sammy Hagar at a club. When his girlfriend leaned over and said “Glenn’s dead,” the guitarist thought she meant Glen Campbell, who Felder knew and has been suffering from Alzheimer’s for some time.
When he told her that wasn’t a surprise, she informed him, “No, Glenn Frey.” And even then, Felder says he thought it was an Internet hoax until it started appearing all over the news, though it was still a shock.
and the photos, wherein somehow Felder has turned into Joe Bonnamassa's Dad
https://images1.houstonpress.com/imager/u/blog/9581461/hou_mus_donfeldermain.jpg
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
I almost forgot, but when I went to see Tom Petty last month, Joe Walsh opened for him. At one point in his set, he said, "This one is for my brother and bandmate, Glenn Frey." He then proceeded to play "Take It To The Limit," which is almost inextricably associated with Randy Meisner. It was either a heartfelt tribute, epic trollery, or some combination.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 19:36 (six years ago) link
That's like the one non-Joe Walsh song that Joe Walsh would probably sing pretty good on. (until the high parts.)
― pplains, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/QDGT5I5.jpg
Don't where else to work this in, but every day I walk past this plaque and every day, I sing "Spent the last year, Count Pulaski Way..."
― pplains, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link
what did Don 'n' Glenn think of Tom Petty?
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link
xxp Joe's got a four-person backing vocal section so the pressure is off to hit anything out of his range.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
xp glenn probably thought petty was an asshole since felder gave the young petty gtr lessons
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:50 (six years ago) link
DON: Some years after we all had made our ways to California, Tom Petty and his great band the Heartbreakers followed the trail, setting up shop in the mid-70s with a number of lighthearted Rock'n'Roll records that were fine companions to our own, less serious work. Later on, Mike Campbell and drummer Stan Lynch would be some of my best collaborators as I stepped out of the shadow of the Eagles and started making my own hit records.
GLENN: We never let Tom forget that while he had the the song, we had the PHDs in "Making it last all night" with "American Girl"s!
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
Joe's got a four-person backing vocal section so the pressure is off to hit anything out of his range.
― Old Lynch's Sex Paragraph (Phil D.),
Randy Meisner had a Glenn Frey asshole section waiting, so the pressure was on him to avoid being hit by Frey.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:24 (six years ago) link
still lol at the thought of Henley grabbing Stan Lynch's legal pad and correcting his grammar and punctuation
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:25 (six years ago) link
when i was a younger fact checking cuz, i spent some time on the phone with henley going over a transcript of a q&a that a reporter at my site did with him. henley had demanded to see the transcript because he was appalled that we had sent a woman in her early 20s to interview henley the great and powerful. first he sent me a copy-edited version of the transcript, with his own proofreading marks on them. not even remotely surprisingly, dude knows his proofreading symbols. then he got on the phone with me to argue hyphens, dashes and semicolons before something else ticked him off and he hung up on me. top-five highlight of my fact checking life.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 July 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link
Did he know punctuation?
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 22:17 (six years ago) link
all i remember is he was extremely confident in his suggestions and was not particularly interested in anything i had to say besides yes, ok and sure. also, he cared more about the punctuation than i did.
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 July 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link
Well: yeah
― or at night (Jon not Jon), Friday, 7 July 2017 23:09 (six years ago) link
one of the joys of learning about henley is the continual, neverending confirmation that he is the dickwagon I assumed he was when I knew zero about him
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 7 July 2017 23:37 (six years ago) link
In the Wild: "Victim of Love."
Victim of the Eagles.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:00 (six years ago) link
If you listen closely you can hear Felder sobbing quietly
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 October 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link
I saw at WalMart recently that they've quietly reissued the two vinyl-era hits comps in a box for $12.
Also: Vince Gill is apparently an Eagle now.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:08 (six years ago) link
what!?
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:39 (six years ago) link
Yeah, two CDs in a box.
But seriously, apparently that summer show w/Gill & Frey's son went well enough that they plan to continue touring with them in the lineup.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link
Reminds me of what I posted last year"
Also I picked up Felder's hefty Between Heaven and Hell in the library, and read the whole thing that afternoon, which never happens. Gist: his father comes off as a self-made, self-righteous, self-torturing workaholic and skinflint, and Don follows suit during his Eagles years, with infinitely more bucks and perks than blue collar Dad ever had, of course. Furthermore, Dr. Phil, he somewhat recreates his own defiant-dependent teen relationship with Dad, now played by Henley and Frey.Also:When he finally gets his ass fired, after having papers served in the studio, he actually calls back, all crying---"Try to seek some higher ground in this, Fingers," Frey counsels, and the ex-Mrs. Felder fervently seconds. So he does, by writing this agony-and-juicy-tidbits saga. He's always been go-to for tha latter apparently; has everybody in the firm calling up to ask him what "the Gods" are up to now, incl. the Gods themselves, D & G, checking on each other, and maybe themselves. D. circulates a memo on making sure the toliet paper rolls *toward* the shittee, so reacharound nec. One of the lighter moments.
― dow, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
And he casually mentions in that one of his guitar students back in Florida was "Tommy" Petty.
― dow, Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link
^^Who later had a band with Bernie Leadon's brother.
― to fly across the city and find Aerosmith's car (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 8 October 2017 23:40 (six years ago) link
Me and some of the fellas at work takin' it to the limit.
https://i.imgur.com/rrkZJ6C.jpg
― pplains, Monday, 23 October 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
A bad day in hell: being trapped with Lyin' Eyes.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link
i enjoy the melody but the lyrics make me crosseyed with hatred
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 03:15 (six years ago) link
fantastic piece.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 08:21 (six years ago) link
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 10:50 (six years ago) link
thanks!
I'm happy that we all came out of this thread stronger, bolder and wiser. And we didn't even lose anyone along the way!
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:13 (six years ago) link
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/a0/42/5d/a0425d08c6b7d828e4a3903f81ab11d1--eagles-band-the-eagles.jpg
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link
Listen, you ever hear me use the pronoun "we", be assured that it'll mean "me and the Eagles".
― pplains, Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link
it'll never mean.
I don't need a Roach Ghost haunting me today, all right?
Love the responses from angry Eagles fans - and Alfred's retorts - in the blog post linked above.
― Futuristic Bow Wow (thewufs), Thursday, 9 November 2017 00:59 (six years ago) link
I wondered why my stats were exploding two weeks ago: an Eagles fan site had linked to it.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:03 (six years ago) link
First, you call yourself an author, yet you spelled ‘great with “grate” Are you making a cheese topped dish?
O Lord, I think Henley found your blog.
― pplains, Thursday, 9 November 2017 01:19 (six years ago) link
sick burn
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 9 November 2017 03:40 (six years ago) link
man this is sweet and soft and cool.. so airy, bernie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHrFD_5iD7w
― brimstead, Friday, 18 May 2018 21:21 (five years ago) link
Lol @ the setlists: http://www.citypages.com/music/jimmy-buffett-and-the-eagles-at-target-field-a-timeline/487077441
― pplains, Saturday, 7 July 2018 14:18 (five years ago) link
"The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks" just came up on a random shuffle. Never heard it before and missed its day here. It's like a prototype for solo-Henley "Johnny Can't Read" and Hen's other sour new wave.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:31 (five years ago) link
a day-ruiner, basically
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:31 (five years ago) link
hey y'all!
We approach the five-year anniversary of this thread.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:38 (five years ago) link
whaaaaaat good lord
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:46 (five years ago) link
we should celebrate by starting over again :D
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:47 (five years ago) link
^^^ frail grasp on the big picture
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 02:53 (five years ago) link
carved on my tombstone iirc
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 03:05 (five years ago) link
Well, Yeah
― Making Plans For Sturgill (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 03:13 (five years ago) link
what would Don 'n' Ghost of Glenn say?
https://apnews.com/3c0b39a1bb5b4e44aafe2c4e05a4b67f/Beating-King-of-Pop,-The-Eagles-have-No.1-album-of-all-time
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2018 16:58 (five years ago) link
DON: “We are grateful for our families, our management, our crew, the people at radio and, most of all, the loyal fans who have stuck with us through the ups and downs of 46 years. It’s been quite a ride.”
GLENN: "Don't forget the ins and outs."
DON: "Well, yeah."
― pplains, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:05 (five years ago) link
ug what a bummer
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link
couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch of assholes
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2018 17:34 (five years ago) link
Are we maybe down to one (living) asshole still in the band?
― dow, Monday, 20 August 2018 17:52 (five years ago) link
The new RIAA cert for the Eagles' Greatest Hits album is absurd and doesn't mean what most people - including almost every source reporting it - think it means. I'm a total music charts/sales geek and I could break it down in detail, but suffice it to say that A) this is U.S.-only sales; worldwide, Thriller is still the best-selling album of all time by a very large margin and B) RIAA certifications no longer reflect actual album sales and have become almost meaningless to anyone outside the industry. They're now a weird amalgam of album sales (physical and digital), digital singles sales, and streams. Thriller has likely still sold more copies, even in the U.S.
― It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Monday, 20 August 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link
Yep.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2018 21:42 (five years ago) link
good to know. that makes me feel better
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 August 2018 21:44 (five years ago) link
in short: take it easy, everyone
No doubt the Eagles have sold more than the last time the RIAA certified those albums, but "selling" isn't streaming, and selling matters not a whit in 2018.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 20 August 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link
THIS FUCKING PICTURE
https://storage.googleapis.com/afs-prod/media/media:621b972b2d3049ad9bf361b83b46c6ae/800.jpeg
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 August 2018 22:09 (five years ago) link
is Don playing bongos on his guitar there
― Οὖτις, Monday, 20 August 2018 22:11 (five years ago) link
GLENN: Not the first time he awkwardly slapped some bongos...
― Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 August 2018 22:14 (five years ago) link
Greatest comment I've seen about the Eagles today, on a friend's FB page about this:
The public like them because their lyrics are decipherable and make singing along easy. Say what you want about their other abilities, but those guys could enunciate.
― Eliza D., Wednesday, 22 August 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link
Hey, everyone. Pleasant Plains here with a new song from the Alternative Nation. Coming out of Boston, the same stomping grounds of Dinosaur Jr., Pixies, Buffalo Tom and Throwing Muses, here's Evan Dando and THE LEMONHEADS with their latest, TAKE IT EASY.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp8dh6n0t-E
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 14:22 (five years ago) link
heard "peaceful easy feeling" in the wild today. this makes me want to hear it again. evan dando should stick to suzanne vega, charles manson and love positions covers.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 14 February 2019 04:28 (five years ago) link
He's definitely learned how to help himself.
― pplains, Thursday, 14 February 2019 14:26 (five years ago) link
Eight months before HBO’s Leaving Neverland documentary raised new questions about Michael Jackson’s legacy, executives at the late pop star’s record label and estate were pondering another unexpected -- and unrelated -- development involving his business.
Jackson’s 1982 album, Thriller (33 million copies sold), had just lost the status it held for almost a decade as the best-selling album of all time in the United States, ceding the title to the Eagles’ Their Greatest Hits 1971–1975 (38 million), according to the RIAA. Though the two albums have jockeyed for the top spot since the 1980s, trading the lead five times, executives from both Jackson’s estate and Sony Music were stunned by the news that Their Greatest Hits had gained nine new platinum certifications in a single day from the RIAA for the years 2006 to 2018 -- meaning 9 million additional U.S. album sales had been made or discovered over those 12 years.
“After Thriller being the recognized No. 1 album seller in the United States for a decade, we were obviously surprised and concerned when we were overtaken despite all metrics we use stating otherwise,” Sony Music Entertainment CEO Rob Stringer said in a statement earlier in 2019, before the documentary premiered. “All we are asking for is transparency in the process so we can understand how sales numbers changed so dramatically at such short notice.”
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link
apart from Thriller and the Eagles GH perpetually displacing each other, there is another thing that MJ and Don Henley share, which is what I thought of when I read the first clause of the opening graf…no doubt Henley has been mucho nervous for the past 1 1/2 years…
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
veronica, he's a victim of love
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
ha ha imagining the day Twitter is like "The Boys of Summer guy got arrested for what?"
― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
Truly, it is The End of The Innocence...
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link
all she wanted to do is dance!
― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/PzJw95Y.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ygkSwBj.jpg
― pplains, Tuesday, 26 March 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link
On the floor.
In the round.
― Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 March 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
This guy just left this Half-Price Books after loudly looking for The Long Run on CD. He was asking people, made them search the database, first in-store, then all of the locations in the city. Seriously jonesing to no avail--ended up saying he was going to eBay.
THE LONG RUN
― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 April 2019 00:48 (four years ago) link
Should've made him blow a gasket by going, "Dude, just get Greatest Hits Vol. II".
― pplains, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:24 (four years ago) link
today's final jeopardy clue:
"Rolling Stone said this 1976 album had 'the best & worst tendencies of L.A.-situated rock' & was an 'unflattering portrait of the milieu.'"
contestant 1: (nothing)contestant 2: rumours (not quite spelled out on his screen)contestant 3: exile on main st.
alex: well, no*
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 26 July 2019 02:37 (four years ago) link
*it's possible that's not exactly how alex phrased it
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 26 July 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link
if contestant 3 ever comes in my record store, oh man, he’ll have a fierce rolling of the eyes likes of which he won’t soon forget
― budo jeru, Friday, 26 July 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 July 2019 03:09 (four years ago) link
LA-situated? ....Exile?O_o
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 26 July 2019 03:14 (four years ago) link
Rumours a good guess!
― pplains, Friday, 26 July 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link
No sorry the answer is Greatest Hits Vol. 1
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 26 July 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link
The answer is Dowse Myself in Kerosene.`
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 July 2019 14:06 (four years ago) link
Eagle in the Wild: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/joe-walsh-nixes-concert-after-gop-ties-revealed-191977/
― jbn, Monday, 26 August 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
???
How about https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/the-eagles-to-launch-40th-anniversary-tour-in-2012-176670/
― pplains, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
The Joe Walsh lineup of the James Gang haven’t cut an album since Thirds in 1971. “We should record at least four things playing the way that we used to,” says Walsh. “I don’t want to use Pro Tools and I want to overdub, because you can’t do that live. But if we can do at least four things new and get them on the Internet, I think with that and a cross section of the old stuff, we’d have all we need to go out and try and kick some ass. I hope we get to do that in the first half of 2012. I really hope it works out.”
― calstars, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:05 (four years ago) link
Heh, especially with his namesake running for President, I thought it was Walsh’s ties revealed, not the event’s.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
Joe Walsh has a rather decent tune on Sheryl Crow's latest.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link
IN THE WILD: "New Kid in Town" AND "Try and Love Again."
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/71457152/siren_400x400.gif
I like "New Kid in Town."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
They're touring next year boasting shows featuring a full performance of Hotel California plus 'A Greatest Hits set', all w/'Orchestral Backing'.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
TS: "with an orchestra" vs. "on ice" as the ultimate shark-jump tour shtick
― solos that go widdly widdly widdly (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 18 October 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
The orchestra is proving to be a big selling point on the current Who tour. Unfortunately, it’s treacly, predictable as fuck, and pointless. So, while those qualities detract from a Who show, they’ll likely vastly improve an Eagles performance.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 18 October 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
Well, there are loads of Eagles songs with orchestration already.
DON: I'm looking forward to going out on the road with the orchestra. We'll finally be able to present our music as Glenn and I had originally envisioned, but were unable for whatever reason to present as such, in concert on prior tours.
GLENN: We always had the budget for orchestras, but drugs, girls, Budweiser, and girls with drugs and Budweiser don't pay for themselves, ya know!
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link
Iggles and co.
― calstars, Friday, 18 October 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
i bet the orchestral version of Chug All Night fkn slaps tho
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 October 2019 05:40 (four years ago) link
Chug In C Minor
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 19 October 2019 06:06 (four years ago) link
Chug Swear Didn't Know C's Minor
― pplains, Saturday, 19 October 2019 11:26 (four years ago) link
in the wild: listening to smuggler's blues on the radio, wondering how and why it isn't a warren zevon song.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 19:10 (four years ago) link
"i wish you peace" sounds kind of nice today
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link
no one asked Patti Davis what she thought.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link
Don Felder is playing at a gun show/outdoor expo in Houston soon.
*Only saw half the commercial last night, but there was gun show footage alongside pics of Felder and co-headliner comedian Tom Papa.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
Already Gun
― Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
Same joke, different thread.
https://washyourlyrics.nyc3.cdn.digitaloceanspaces.com/2587511396191174656.png
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 March 2020 04:08 (four years ago) link
a+
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 13 March 2020 05:26 (four years ago) link
Take it easy with the Eagles’ biggest hits, at-home playlist & more on exclusive channel
Listeners will hear The Eagles Pandemic Playlist, a timely curated collection of songs during these uncertain times, as well as encores of the Eagles’ exclusive SiriusXM concert from the Grand Ole Opry in October 2017.
You can never leave, etc.
― blatherskite, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link
Just Another Corona Sunrise...
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 April 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
how are Don 'n' Ghost of Glenn handling social distancing?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 April 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
DON: Social distancing is tough, but necessary step we're all having to take to prevent the spread of the so-called 'Chinese Virus'--Covid-19, or the Corona Virus. I've been making the most of my time in quarantine with my family, reading, watching the news, and writing new material for what could be the next great Eagles album.
GLENN: Too bad this didn't happen back in the day. I'd be in Quarantine over in Coldwater Canyon with QuaranTina, QuranTerri, and QuaranToni with enough Corona to go around, I guarantee you!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 April 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
A+
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 April 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
don: fuck 'em and *then* social distance 'em, that's how i do it.
glenn: well, yeah.
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:03 (three years ago) link
Coronavirus... GET OVER IT!
― And I swear that I don't have a gnu (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, April 30, 2020 12:49 PM bookmarkflaglink
― pplains, Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
i love u Grisso
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link
DON: For a person like me, wealth gives me the privilege to self-isolate. And Thoreau's Walden, a book I consider a touchstone, is never far from my side.
GLENN: Henley, when you and I self-isolated in Topanga Canyon in the mid '70s, we made sure to bring a lotta blonde privileges with us!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:47 (three years ago) link
Loooool mmm yes such a great observation“We saw a lot of beautiful women around Hollywood who were married to wealthy, successful men, and wondered if they were unhappy," Frey said during the audio commentary of the Hell Freezes Over concert film. "One night we were drinking in a bar when I spotted this stunning young woman; two steps behind her was a much older, fat, rich guy. We all started laughing and one of the other guys commented, 'Look at her, she can't even hide those lyin' eyes!' Immediately, we all began grabbing for cocktail napkins to write down lyrics to go with that great observation."https://ultimateclassicrock.com/eagles-lyin-eyes/
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:00 (three years ago) link
"The 'ci' and 'ty' came from two different takes, 'girls' from another, and each word after that from different takes," producer Bill Szymczyk later told Rolling Stone.
Only Teo Macero got more out of an editing room.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
cocaine is a wonderful editing tool
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link
Lying Eyes is such a nothing song
― calstars, Sunday, 2 August 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link
Worse.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 August 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
“We saw a lot of beautiful women around Hollywood who were married to wealthy, successful men, and wondered if they were unhappy," Frey said during the audio commentary of the Hell Freezes Over concert film. "One night we were drinking in a bar when I spotted this stunning young woman; two steps behind her was a much older, fat, rich guy. We all started laughing and one of the other guys commented, 'Look at her, she can't even hide those lyin' eyes!' Immediately, we all began grabbing for cocktail napkins to write down lyrics to go with that great observation."I didn't have a high opinion about this band before, but Jesus, what a bunch of assholes.
― birdistheword, Monday, 3 August 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link
cocaine is a wonderful editing toolLOL, probably a given that razor blade was doing double duty
― birdistheword, Monday, 3 August 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link
i swear every story they tell of a song inspiraton follows the same formulax person says a generic line - “thats life in the fast lane” / “she cant hide her lyin eyes” etcglenn/don: OH BOY WHAT A GREAT LINE! BOYS GRAB YOUR COCKTAIL NAPKINS WE’RE HEADED TO HITSVILLE, POPULATION: EAGLES
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link
rmde
Some Guy At A Kegger: "Chug! Chug! Chug...All...Night!"
<LIGHT BULB EXPLODES ABOVE GLENN FREY'S HEAD>
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 August 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link
GLENN'S (EX-)WIFE: "I don't know where we're going to get everything for Jack Tempchin's surprise party! Maybe a trip to Partytown is in my future?"
<GLENN FREY'S TOAST POPS UP>
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 August 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link
rmle
― pplains, Monday, 3 August 2020 02:07 (three years ago) link
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link
Henley’s girlfriend: We need to find a hotel *here*, Don! In *California*! Don? Are you even listening? HOTEL? CALIFORNIA? KLIEG LIGHTS EXPLODE IN HENLEY’S BRAIN
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 August 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link
Frey gets out of a taxi; driver says "take it easy, man."
Frey: HOLY SHIT, where's a cocktail napkin when you need one?"
― we slept on the banks on the leaves of a banyan tree (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 August 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link
young don henley, desperate for money, drives to the local mall, runs into the gap, hands his resume to the manager and says he needs a job. manager looks it over, says you like a fine young man but you kind of smell like colitas, and anyway i don't have any openings. he gives young henley his resume back and says take it to the limited, i hear they might be hiring.
A BOLT OF LIGHTNING CRASHES THROUGH THE ROOF THE MALL AND STABS YOUNG HENLEY THROUGH THE HEART.
he shakes it off, picks himself up off the floor and, needless to say, does not take his resume to the limited.
― fact checking cuz, Monday, 3 August 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/Ef4IWd9.jpg
"'Someone saved my life tonight'? Man, someone saves my life every night. Thinking of those Eagles lights. Love Lies Bleeding? More like, 'Love, lies, and uh, breeding!'"
― pplains, Saturday, 29 August 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link
I can imagine Frey and Elton getting high together and then looking at each other and cracking up
― calstars, Saturday, 29 August 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link
I'll take "White Men Born in the 40s" for $200...
https://i.ibb.co/R0HcNbh/Screen-Shot-2021-02-12-at-08-10-14.png
― pplains, Friday, 12 February 2021 14:12 (three years ago) link
Biden To Trump: GET OVER IT
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 February 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link
It's at least partially their fault tho.
it’s not really the eagles’ fault so much of their catalog got overplayed into treacly eye-rolling teeth-gritting unlistenable pop trash by decades of bad radio, but this album is their one epic masterstroke that survived by being just too beautifully weird for radio https://t.co/SGIJtY64FM— kilgore trout, trump social media director (@KT_So_It_Goes) March 22, 2021
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 March 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link
i just started watching the original BBC Hitchikers Guide to Galaxy series for the first timehello spaced-out Bernie & the Eagles with the theme song maaaaaaanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZdZKolMIl0
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 23 May 2021 03:27 (two years ago) link
Saw this in a group on FB: Glenn Frey Wrecked The Rationals' Van!
https://pizzadontgobad.blogspot.com/2011/03/why-did-glenn-frey-roll-rationals-van.html?m=1
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 23 May 2021 16:35 (two years ago) link
I mean, FUCK:
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8qatWYLjmKM/Wni4KaMkkTI/AAAAAAAAAv8/aB_i1w8MKIANpo-KxBS3Y49aXBvjeGVSgCLcBGAs/s1600/The-Rationals-Van-Ann-Arbor.jpg
That's Life In The Fast Lane For Ya!
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 23 May 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
You know, they made whole mini-series based on Kenny Rogers songs. How come there hasn't been some sort of Movie of the Week based on Hotel California?
Detach Henley & Co. from it altogether and just think of it from a third-person POV, a kind of Mulholland Drive meets Westworld type deal.
What got me thinking about it was that line in the last stanza: "Relax," said the bellman. "We are programmed to receive."
Programmed to receive? We go through this six minutes of this Mexican reggae only to come out on the other end with this mechanical butler blocking our egress. In the above movie, maybe the actor could throw in some sort of Zrrrrrrr-BOT! after he says the line. Maybe do a little poppin' robot move with his stiff forearms.
"Check in any time you like, but you can never leave," is a fine lyric to close the shop with, though now I'm wondering which came first, the Hotel California or the Roach Motel. Oh, God, "the Roach". Shit never ends.
― pplains, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link
I want to see this song remade as an episode of "Family Matters".
In the Marc Eliot book, there's a bit about how producer Julia Phillips (of The Sting and Taxi Driver fame) wanted to option "Hotel California" as a film, possibly starring the band. It was scuttled by (A) A very poor meeting between Phillips & Don'n'Glenn, and (B) Phillips subsequently discovering that the copyright on the album was in dispute, due to a then-ongoing lawsuit between the band and David Geffen re: publishing ownership percentages, which would complicate any film deal involving the IP.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
it is 3:30 EST, some four hours after a post containing most fecund material for an excerpt from the lost Crowe interviews with Don and the Ghost of Glenn…and yet, there is no such excerpts presented so far…eagerly anticipating!
― veronica moser, Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:33 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/gWWkao8.jpg
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link
― I can yeet a yeti (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
Shots fired, Raggett
Our latest episode on all things #Tolkien is live on @MegaphonicFm! In which we talk about the Eagles, and make neither a Philadelphia nor a Don Henley/Glenn Frey joke, for which we are collectively justly proud. https://t.co/1Ywq9ghEHv pic.twitter.com/KrY61PSLmg— By-the-Bywater (@BytheBywater) July 30, 2021
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 July 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link
lolHey look if Sam Gamgee’s not a Victim of Love, i dont know who is.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 July 2021 18:00 (two years ago) link
Dr. Johnny Fever plays the Eagles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhFqZKPWtKc
They had to use a soundalike on the DVD.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 28 August 2021 00:08 (two years ago) link
A Facebook friend just posted a pic of the stage after taking their (nosebleed) seat at tonight's Eagles show in Dallas: they actually have a huge banner hanging from the rafters above the stage boosting of how many sold-out shows they've played on this tour and the exact number of tickets sold.
Serious Donald Trump Energy In The Henley House.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link
Talk about creative bankruptcy
― calstars, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 00:22 (two years ago) link
Every Eagles Song
― dell (del), Monday, 3 January 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link
don’t do it buddy
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 January 2022 22:22 (two years ago) link
https://frinkiac.com/video/S05E01/aVaEMW0SxCmH1X4c0KID29RT2rg=.gif
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 January 2022 22:23 (two years ago) link
Such a boring blog title too. Should be "Pushing Ahead Of The Roach" or "Desperadoes & Donsters" or something.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 3 January 2022 22:32 (two years ago) link
Was there ever was a band less deserving of a close reading
― calstars, Monday, 3 January 2022 22:44 (two years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/cXusktI.gif
― pplains, Monday, 3 January 2022 22:46 (two years ago) link
I actually listened to Their Greatest Hits 1971-1975 and Hotel California on a long car ride over the holiday, per family request. I hadn't listened to Hotel California in its entirety in at least five years (maybe close to ten), but it actually came off better than expected. I could do without the bathetic "Wasted Time" reprise and some of the lyrics on "The Last Resort." ("Jesus people bought them" is bad enough on paper, Henley's smug delivery is the pits.) But most of it holds together, a good album. The former was kind of pleasant but nearly every track bothered me in some way as either an empty pastiche (Ray Charles on "Desperado," Bee Gees on "One of These Nights," etc.) or more chauvinism. "Take It to the Limit" was a gorgeous sounding track though.
― birdistheword, Monday, 3 January 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link
YOu know what holds up pretty well? "I Can't Tell You Why."
― nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 January 2022 23:03 (two years ago) link
^^^an amazing track and the guitar solo is one of the few times I have had to tip my cap to Glenn Frey
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Monday, 3 January 2022 23:26 (two years ago) link
Also Walsh with an understated, underrated keyboard performance
― nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 3 January 2022 23:34 (two years ago) link
look if you are not calling your blog BLOG ALL NIGHT then what is he even doing
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 3 January 2022 23:40 (two years ago) link
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Monday, 3 January 2022 23:53 (two years ago) link
part of me wants to say dude, this is a wasted exercise. in terms of non album tracks, it’s turds almost all the way down. the ones you know are the only thing that will save you (maybe). just do the complete greatest hits & save your sanity.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 00:10 (two years ago) link
True Mad Puffin. Something about Walsh's presence, especially when he's on lead guitar, gives even a ripoff like "Tryin' to Live My Life Without You" a solid identity.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 04:05 (two years ago) link
* even a ripoff of "Tryin' to Live My Life Without You"
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 04:06 (two years ago) link
Dude really is an astonishingly complete musician, which is the cherry on top of him being a refreshingly weird person (at least as far as one can tell from documentaries and interviews).
― nonsensei (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 04:45 (two years ago) link
...(and album titles)
― Lee626, Tuesday, 4 January 2022 10:22 (two years ago) link
Frey and Henley's call-and-response bits in "I Can't Tell You Why" are their tenderest moment.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 January 2022 12:59 (two years ago) link
All this talk of Molotov cocktails keeps getting “All She Wants To Do Is Dance” stuck in my head.
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 28 February 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link
Frey Jr. departs
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/deacon-frey-glenn-frey-son-leaves-eagles-1333746/
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link
They will never forget you till somebody new comes along.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link
Apparently you can both check out AND leave.
― So's your imam (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 21:37 (one year ago) link
What would Ghost of Glenn say?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 April 2022 22:30 (one year ago) link
DON: It's been great having Deacon out on the road with us these past few years, as we've brought on a new multi-generational dimension to the Hotel California album on sold-out concert stages around the world. As much as I'd have liked to continue this work in the studio, I completely respect young Mr. Frey's decision to build on our foundation alone, making his own unique and special music.
GLENN: Glenn Lewis Frey didn't raise no fools! My boy knows that: (A) real estate is King; (B) if she says she's 18, she's 15; (C) when in doubt, add a sax solo; and above all, (D) there's much more to life than spending six months in the studio punching in syllables with this asshole!
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 April 2022 20:41 (one year ago) link
I had a friend who used to say, in all sincerity, that "The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks" was his favorite Eagles song.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 April 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link
brainworms imo
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 7 April 2022 23:23 (one year ago) link
The Long Run - best rocker of all timeI Can't Tell You Why - best slow jam of all timeIn The City - best Joe Walsh of all timeThe Disco Strangler - best dance song of all timeKing Of Hollywood - best prog-rock song of all timeHeartache Tonight - best shuffle of all timeThose Shoes - best funk song of all timeTeenage Jail - best heavy metal song of all timeThe Greeks Don't Want No Freaks - best new wave song of all timeThe Sad Cafe - best career-ending ballad of all time
― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 8 April 2022 11:26 (one year ago) link
The longest run of all time.
― pplains, Saturday, 9 April 2022 01:56 (one year ago) link
The VIP section at The Eagles' Hyde Park concert in London broke into a brawl during the band's performance of "Take It Easy": https://t.co/qbbVlD4l3A pic.twitter.com/YQVyX2B0TM— Consequence (@consequence) June 30, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
a good day in hell
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
is that at the 1/6 insurrection
I do believe I could CHUD all night
― covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 30 June 2022 18:56 (one year ago) link
Security guys finally getting to crack some heads
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link
Nah, if they learned anything from Henley, they know how to take care of this. (at 1:41:45) "STAY OUT OF THIS! This is PERSONAL! And it's PRIVATE! Real, fucking, PRIVATE!"
― birdistheword, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:46 (one year ago) link
(ah, the Twitter picture didn't come up earlier. I guess they didn't learn anything from the Eagles doc.)
― birdistheword, Thursday, 30 June 2022 19:48 (one year ago) link
Reportedly, an onlooker kept telling the fighters, “You’ve got to take it easy,” and he didn’t even get punched.
― pplains, Thursday, 30 June 2022 20:18 (one year ago) link
just loosening their loads maaan
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:17 (one year ago) link
Life In The VIP Section
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 30 June 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Curator Charged Over $1M Worth of Stolen Eagles LyricsCraig Inciardi, Glenn Horowitz, and Edward Kosinski are all accused of being involved in a conspiracy that sought to peddle nearly 100 pages of Don Henley’s handwritten notes and lyrics from ‘Hotel California’ and ‘Life in the Fast Lane’ to potential buyers.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/eagles-hotel-california-lyrics-charged-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-1381952/
Hidden in the margins is a treasure map for finding Glenn's (Eagles) Gold
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:50 (one year ago) link
100 pages of handwritten notes, circa. 1976.
- Toilet paper should be rolled toward the user, to display the design.
- Sunken living rooms should be no more than three feet deep, to preserve sight distance.
- Avacados vary too much in hue to be the standardized name for a certain color of refrigerator. "Philodendron" is a more appropriate name.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link
"In the City" playing on 880-AM this morning, but it was the Long Run version.
― pplains, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 13:14 (one year ago) link
http://twitter.com/seanhowe/status/154766252181273395
― dow, Saturday, 16 July 2022 02:42 (one year ago) link
Ed Sanders was going to write about Jonestown when the Eagles contacted him in 1978. He completed the 900-page Eagles biography in 1982; it was never published. https://t.co/0dQanOqZ28 pic.twitter.com/Li62CDY9dC— Sean Howe (@seanhowe) July 14, 2022
― dow, Saturday, 16 July 2022 02:44 (one year ago) link
that’s pretty fascinatingalso i tbh for local color alone i would read Sanders’ Eagles bio
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 July 2022 03:14 (one year ago) link
Me too! Can't find anything about it, other than his passing mentions way back when he was working on it, says the new album is real good, The Long Run, I take it.
― dow, Saturday, 16 July 2022 03:32 (one year ago) link
i am kinda fond of his Manson book for similar reasons, not so much veracity as just local flavor & genuine weirdness - you can’t fake that style
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 16 July 2022 04:27 (one year ago) link
"Peaceful Easy Feeling" in the Publix bathroom supplies aisle, of course.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
Okay but wouldn't "Take it Easy" be more appropriate?
"Tryin' to loosen my load" could take on new meaning.
― Cirque de Soleil Moon Frye (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
NEW meaning? That's literally what Jackson Browne meant by that lyric.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link
in case anyone has ever wondered what "hotel california" would sound like with the solo from megadeth's "tornado of souls," and vice versa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3DY3Lbo50
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 12 January 2023 21:41 (one year ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0Rq8WoNF1ZeKDgjhLujaLM4gVf3syC4RYHnrJ9VyYvf6ZZiWrLd2CS2MtBUkqzUeal&id=100044525882499&post_id=100044525882499_pfbid0Rq8WoNF1ZeKDgjhLujaLM4gVf3syC4RYHnrJ9VyYvf6ZZiWrLd2CS2MtBUkqzUeal&mibextid=Nif5oz
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:46 (one year ago) link
what might Don 'n' Ghost of Glenn say?
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link
DON: I've never heard of Pavement, but they will certainly be hearing from my lawyers.
GLENN: Why just "Summer Babe"? Equal time for the babes of Spring, Winter, and Autumn, I say! And even better if that equal time is at the same time, if you know what I mean...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 January 2023 00:58 (one year ago) link
Ted Cruz tells a story about how he planned to go to an Eagles concert for a fundraiser in March 2020 until he got a call letting him know that he likely was exposed to Covid at CPAC. He says that Heidi wasn't happy they had to bail on plans. pic.twitter.com/e6zZbMHrJj— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) March 2, 2023
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 3 March 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link
Obligatory "Well, yeah."
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 March 2023 08:28 (one year ago) link
That's the most human Ted Cruz has ever sounded.
I thought Matt Schlapp was verboten these days.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 March 2023 10:25 (one year ago) link
imagine "dressing to the nines" to attend an eagles concert/fundraiser (?) with/for ted cruz
also what is ted cruz's fav eagles song
― Florin Cuchares, Friday, 3 March 2023 14:04 (one year ago) link
"The Greeks Don't Need No Freaks," obv
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link
Dude is like the GOP Al Gore.
― pplains, Friday, 3 March 2023 14:38 (one year ago) link
Al Gore is Marlene Dietrich by comparison.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 March 2023 14:45 (one year ago) link
Tryhard with a beard who probably really is the smartest person in the room.*
_____________________
*Which isn't saying much when you're appearing at CPAC.
― pplains, Friday, 3 March 2023 14:46 (one year ago) link
Greaseful Easy Feeling
― nat king cole slaw (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 March 2023 16:56 (one year ago) link
The Eagles are soaring one final time!On Thursday, the band announced that after more than 50 years of touring and 150 million albums sold worldwide, their upcoming “The Long Goodbye” tour will be their last.“Our long run has lasted far longer than any of us ever dreamed. But, everything has its time, and the time has come for us to close the circle. The official farewell tour is currently in the planning stages,” the band said in an emotional statement.
On Thursday, the band announced that after more than 50 years of touring and 150 million albums sold worldwide, their upcoming “The Long Goodbye” tour will be their last.
“Our long run has lasted far longer than any of us ever dreamed. But, everything has its time, and the time has come for us to close the circle. The official farewell tour is currently in the planning stages,” the band said in an emotional statement.
― dow, Thursday, 6 July 2023 18:37 (eight months ago) link
GET OVER IT
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 July 2023 18:44 (eight months ago) link
GLENN: Vince Gill started asking for more money, didn't he?
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 July 2023 18:44 (eight months ago) link
We’re Thinking Of Buying A Fourth Home Tour
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:06 (eight months ago) link
EAGLES ERAS
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 July 2023 19:22 (eight months ago) link
Hope the encore is both bands doing "Dirty Laundry" with a new Steely Dan bridge added to it.
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Thursday, 6 July 2023 21:14 (eight months ago) link
We’re in our seventies, and we recognize that we can’t do this forever,” Walsh told Variety at Ringo Starr’s 83rd birthday party on July 7. The longtime Eagles guitarist says the band is emphasizing quality over quantity with the upcoming shows and plans to keep performing as long as fans keep showing up.“I think people like BB King set an example, which is, there’s no reason to stop unless you can’t do it,” he said. “And so we’re just announcing that we’re gonna just focus on playing quality shows and slow it down a little bit. And we’re gonna play until we can’t, or play until nobody comes, whichever comes first. But they’re still coming, so why stop? That’s the only thing we know how to do.”The Eagles’ tour begins on September 7 at Madison Square Garden in New York City and currently has dates scheduled through November 14 at Rupp Arenanergy Center in Lexington, Kentucky. The band will continue to announce more shows as dates are set.“The Eagles have had a miraculous 52-year odyssey, performing for people all over the globe, keeping the music alive in the face of tragic losses, upheavals, and setbacks of many kinds,” the band shared in a collective statement. We know how fortunate we are, and we are truly grateful. Our long-run has lasted far longer than any of us ever dreamed. But, everything has its time, and the time has come for us to close the circle.”Tickets go on sale Friday (July 14).The Eagles The Long Goodbye Final Tour Dates 2023:Thursday, September 7 New York, NY Madison Square GardenMonday, September 11 Boston, MA TD GardenSaturday, September 16 Newark, NJ Prudential CenterWednesday, September 20 Belmont Park, NY UBS ArenaThursday, October 5 Denver, CO Ball ArenaMonday, October 9 Indianapolis, IN Gainbridge FieldhouseFriday, October 13 Detroit, MI Little Caesars ArenaTuesday, October 17 Cleveland, OH Rocket Mortgage FieldHouseThursday, November 2 Atlanta, GA State Farm ArenaTuesday, November 7 Charlotte, NC Spectrum CenterThursday, November 9 Raleigh, NC PNC ArenaTuesday, November 14 Lexington, KY Rupp Arenanergy Center
“I think people like BB King set an example, which is, there’s no reason to stop unless you can’t do it,” he said. “And so we’re just announcing that we’re gonna just focus on playing quality shows and slow it down a little bit. And we’re gonna play until we can’t, or play until nobody comes, whichever comes first. But they’re still coming, so why stop? That’s the only thing we know how to do.”
The Eagles’ tour begins on September 7 at Madison Square Garden in New York City and currently has dates scheduled through November 14 at Rupp Arenanergy Center in Lexington, Kentucky. The band will continue to announce more shows as dates are set.
“The Eagles have had a miraculous 52-year odyssey, performing for people all over the globe, keeping the music alive in the face of tragic losses, upheavals, and setbacks of many kinds,” the band shared in a collective statement. We know how fortunate we are, and we are truly grateful. Our long-run has lasted far longer than any of us ever dreamed. But, everything has its time, and the time has come for us to close the circle.”
Tickets go on sale Friday (July 14).
The Eagles The Long Goodbye Final Tour Dates 2023:
Thursday, September 7 New York, NY Madison Square GardenMonday, September 11 Boston, MA TD GardenSaturday, September 16 Newark, NJ Prudential CenterWednesday, September 20 Belmont Park, NY UBS ArenaThursday, October 5 Denver, CO Ball ArenaMonday, October 9 Indianapolis, IN Gainbridge FieldhouseFriday, October 13 Detroit, MI Little Caesars ArenaTuesday, October 17 Cleveland, OH Rocket Mortgage FieldHouseThursday, November 2 Atlanta, GA State Farm ArenaTuesday, November 7 Charlotte, NC Spectrum CenterThursday, November 9 Raleigh, NC PNC ArenaTuesday, November 14 Lexington, KY Rupp Arenanergy Center
― dow, Monday, 10 July 2023 00:23 (eight months ago) link
Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse
― dow, Monday, 10 July 2023 00:25 (eight months ago) link
Meant to add, "Well Yeahhhhh."
― dow, Monday, 10 July 2023 00:26 (eight months ago) link
Belatedly, I agree with the general sentiment upthread that "I Can't Tell You Why" is the Eagles' finest moment
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 10 July 2023 15:29 (eight months ago) link
Have they ever done a "classic album" show or tour, or do even their biggest fans not want to sit through "Try and Love Again" or "The Greeks Don't Want No Freaks"?
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 10 July 2023 17:50 (eight months ago) link
i truly cannot think of anything worse (aside from an Eagles hits tour lol)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 July 2023 17:53 (eight months ago) link
i think the listening thread PROVES they are a greatest hits band. the majority of their album tracks should be burned lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 July 2023 18:04 (eight months ago) link
"Try and Love Again" isn't _that_ bad. (Overlong, yes).
They've been doing Hotel California in full + hits shows with orchestral backing for the last few years.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 July 2023 18:06 (eight months ago) link
all star SD/Eagles jam of "Chug All Night" for the second encore
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 10 July 2023 18:12 (eight months ago) link
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 July 2023 18:26 (eight months ago) link
"Chug All Night"/"Deacon Blues" medley
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 July 2023 18:40 (eight months ago) link
*crowd rapidly leaves arena*
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 July 2023 19:18 (eight months ago) link
The "Don't Let the Door Hit You in the Ass" Tour
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 10 July 2023 21:51 (eight months ago) link
“doors open at 7pm; doors are locked at 9pm we go through this together til we die”
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 10 July 2023 21:54 (eight months ago) link
Or until all loads are loosened.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 10 July 2023 21:57 (eight months ago) link
Essay questions from Professor Henley to follow.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 July 2023 21:57 (eight months ago) link
The good vibes of “F.M.” segue into the bad vibes or “Life in the Fast Lane.”
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Monday, 10 July 2023 21:59 (eight months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcb-K8k-OAE
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 July 2023 22:04 (eight months ago) link
"eat shit Dan" LOL
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 11 July 2023 01:22 (eight months ago) link
2. Becoming the EaglesAfter the line-up of the band was secure, they were faced with the same monumental task all burgeoning bands encounter: picking a band name. The bandmates have contradictory memories when it comes to how they came up with the name Eagles.Felder claims that Leadon thought of the name while recalling a story he had read about the Hopis people’s reverence for the bird of prey, while frequent collaborator J.D. Souther claims Frey came up with the name on a whim after seeing the animal flying above them.
Felder claims that Leadon thought of the name while recalling a story he had read about the Hopis people’s reverence for the bird of prey, while frequent collaborator J.D. Souther claims Frey came up with the name on a whim after seeing the animal flying above them.
https://americansongwriter.com/9-memorable-moments-from-the-eagles-career-from-breakups-to-reunions/
― dow, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 03:32 (eight months ago) link
Imagine how different history would have been if he saw a pigeon instead.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 03:47 (eight months ago) link
So an origin not dissimilar to Batman.
“Critics are a superstitious cowardly lot. So our name must be able to strike terror into their hearts...”
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:47 (eight months ago) link
― fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, July 10, 2023 11:29 AM bookmarkflaglink
if they'd done more songs that sounded like AM station pop that you could vibe with driving home at 4 am, I might have liked them. I didn't even realize this was them until recently.
― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 12:15 (eight months ago) link
Most people have that moment with "I Can't Tell You Why."
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 12:19 (eight months ago) link
Otm
― Exit, pursued by a beer (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 12:27 (eight months ago) link
I probably thought it was Linda Ronstadt the first time I heard it.
― pplains, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 13:31 (eight months ago) link
It's probably the association with a good time of my life, but "New Kid in Town" does the same for me.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 13 July 2023 02:14 (eight months ago) link
Happy birthday, Mystic Banjo Man!
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 19 July 2023 13:51 (eight months ago) link
Sirius XM Deep Tracks just played Neil Young's "Pocahontas"--->"The Last Resort" and I'm pretty sure that's the biggest quality drop-off between tracks I've ever experienced in my whole listening life.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 00:32 (seven months ago) link
what did Don 'n' Ghost of Glenn think of Neil?
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 July 2023 00:52 (seven months ago) link
Before Joe Walsh joined the band, the best single they had was Randy’s. R.I.P.
― birdistheword, Friday, 28 July 2023 04:32 (seven months ago) link
vale, Randy
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 28 July 2023 04:59 (seven months ago) link
love the anecdote from the history of eagles that's like:
*HOTEL CALIFORNIA TOUR, CROWD EAGERLY AWAITING ENCORE*glen frey: we gotta play take it to the limit!randy meisner: nah I'm hungover no way am I hitting those high notes let's do any other eagles songglen frey: FUCK YOU RANDY MEISNER!!! AGGHHHH THE HEAT IS ONrandy meisner: alright bet, have fun assholes *quietly leaves most famous rock band in the world he co-invented*
rip randy we didn't deserve you
― Florin Cuchares, Friday, 28 July 2023 06:33 (seven months ago) link
RIP, Bassman.
https://i.imgur.com/wnAdUjW.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 28 July 2023 13:58 (seven months ago) link
perhaps we should all claim to be randy meisner at any available opportunity, in his honor
― Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 29 July 2023 14:14 (seven months ago) link
1. ten years ago, this thread was in full throttle, and is considered one of the greatest ILM achievements; I was getting ready to get married, and would often find myself getting too involved herein instead of attending to the event…
2. and it's also great that Scott S, the initiator as such and one of the alltime ILM MVPs, is back!
3. It seems Meisner was the Eagle who came out of the band and its heyday the most damaged… probly the most accomplished and certainly the most dishy out of them all at the outset, and…he had a pretty rough life after 1977…
his million dollar moment, as someone described "Take it to the limit" ten years ago, is not described in many of the appreciations of the past couple of days as being redolent of "If you don't know me by now" (frey was really into gamble and huff at the time), but it really is…I don't think much of any of the other cuts he sang lead upon, but he also does the falsetto extemporizing in the rideout of "One of these nights," which is probly his second most memorable vocal in the band…
In an interview with Flanagan in musician mag, Glyn Johns talks about Meisner taking him aside during production of desperado and asking why the band can't sound more like Motown, which baffled Johns as much as Henley demanding that Johns make him sound more like Bonham…
― veronica moser, Saturday, 29 July 2023 17:22 (seven months ago) link
Well, and, remember, Frey said that Henley was their Philippe Wynne or some shit.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 July 2023 17:28 (seven months ago) link
Whereas Don Felder was their John Frusciante and Desperado was their Slippery When Wet. Schmitt was their Billy Preston and Stevie Nicks was their Stevie Nicks.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 29 July 2023 19:11 (seven months ago) link
XP Their TEDDY PENDERGRASS! (IIRC)
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 July 2023 19:15 (seven months ago) link
I liked Dave Marsh's description of "TITTL" as "An arrangement from the Elton John handbook, lyrics from the Bernie Taupin rummage sale".
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 July 2023 19:18 (seven months ago) link
I respectfully disagree. Taupin lyrics often make exactly zero sense. Eagles lyrics are sometimes banal but they usually scan like English sentences.
Like, What the fuck is a pauper to a pawn? In contrast, any fragment of "Take it to the Limit" reads like Henry James.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 29 July 2023 20:43 (seven months ago) link
The American era or Wings of the Dove era
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 July 2023 21:41 (seven months ago) link
I’m wayyy late to this thread but did you guys rate “smugglers blues?”
― Diarrhea of a Madman (calstars), Saturday, 29 July 2023 22:00 (seven months ago) link
Here: They Will Not Go Quietly: The Official ILM Track-By-Track DON 'n' GLENN Listening Thread
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 29 July 2023 22:03 (seven months ago) link
lol thanks
― Diarrhea of a Madman (calstars), Saturday, 29 July 2023 22:12 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq7XxwIsgbU
I watch parts of this from time to time, mostly for Witchy Woman and Earlybird but the whole set is kind of amazing
we probably established this ten years ago but eagles was such a cooler band when it was Meisner + Leadon and also some assholes nobody had heard of but whatever they're alright
also randy meisner = bass beast, while he's singing most of the time, at the same time, and so handsome, so sensitive, love you randy meisner
― Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 30 July 2023 07:58 (seven months ago) link
listening to the comp "help the poor," which complies singles by meisner's early band "the poor." fun nesmith-ish sunshine pop.
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 10:34 (seven months ago) link
compiles
Thing is, I love Meisner but I also love Schmit. Without Meisner's arrival you don't get "Take it to the Limit"; without Meisner's departure you don't get "I Can't Tell You Why," and both are essential to any cogent understanding of Eagleness.
Schmit happens.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 14:54 (seven months ago) link
But - and here I am about to go controp / challop: I really don't give a shit about whether Leadon or Felder is the designated stringwizard.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 14:56 (seven months ago) link
Joe officially replaced Bernie. Felder's just Felder -- kind of like the Y of CSN&Y.
― pplains, Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:09 (seven months ago) link
I will never not love Joe Walsh. But he's a dramatically different kind of multi-instrumentalist than the other two.
They have always had a lot of people who can pick up a guitar and sing a song. Indeed, one of my problems with the Eagles has been: too many fucking guitars. No one needs three guitars and a piano all operating in the same sonic space. It's all midrange mush.
But banjo and mandolin? That's part of what gave early Eagles some more texture.
― Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 15:36 (seven months ago) link
from 1973 to 1983 - if i'm not mistaken - there were 10 10cc albums. that might be fun...??
i never did those other ones with you guys. elton john...that was a bridge too far for me.
― scott seward, Thursday, 3 August 2023 13:40 (seven months ago) link
istening to the comp "help the poor," which complies singles by meisner's early band "the poor." fun nesmith-ish sunshine pop.― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, August 1, 2023 5:34 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglinkcompiles― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, August 1, 2023
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, August 1, 2023 5:34 AM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, August 1, 2023
Yes---back in Scottsbluff, NE, he was a star performer with the Drivin' Dynamics, then spotted and nabbed by Denver-based Soul Survivors, who became The Poor on the fabulous Sunset Strip, picked up by Buffalo Springfield's management, made a few records, then Meisner joined original Poco, was recruited by Rick Nelson for the Stone Canyon Band (along with a couple other Poor folk, who went on to New Riders and elsewhere). You can hear some of his Poor sides, incl. at least one song that he wrote, and read much else about his adventures with them and others here; I've only just begun:
https://randymeisnerretrospective.com/
― dow, Friday, 4 August 2023 02:27 (seven months ago) link
thanks for that. this "help the poor" comp also has stuff by the soul survivors, which is more garage-y. it's not clear if meisner is on the soul survivor recordings. it would perhaps be more clear if qobuz downloads came with liner notes, but beggars can't be choosers.
― Thus Sang Freud, Friday, 4 August 2023 10:25 (seven months ago) link
At a concert in Long Beach, California, for Senator Alan Cranston on July 31, 1980, known as the "Long Night at Wrong Beach", things hit a breaking point in the band when the animosity between Felder and Frey boiled over before the show began after Felder said, "You're welcome – I guess" to Cranston and his wife, thus offending Frey.
These photos below capture just the overall poisonous vibe that the year 1980 carried.
https://i.imgur.com/T2lrCyI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gzVH6LP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tPkFPPc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KTWFSl9.jpg
― pplains, Saturday, 9 September 2023 14:56 (six months ago) link
All I heard this week was how despite his shitty music, Jimmy Buffet was an all-around altruistic dude.
You won't be hearing the same about Don Henley in a few years.
Whatta bunch of sourpusses.
― gjoon1, Saturday, 9 September 2023 16:31 (six months ago) link
they are so not cool looking. what happened to cool? i guess they just look like their audience. that's what jann wenner looked like back then.
― scott seward, Saturday, 9 September 2023 16:55 (six months ago) link
Timothy's white overalls slap, tho
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 9 September 2023 17:03 (six months ago) link
He deserves a slap, yeah
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 September 2023 17:07 (six months ago) link
Henley's probably mad the rapist got 30 years because now who's going to play him in the movie?
― pplains, Saturday, 9 September 2023 18:31 (six months ago) link
― fact checking cuz, Friday, July 7, 2017 5:56 PM (six years ago) b
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 22 October 2023 15:55 (four months ago) link
outstanding
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 October 2023 18:23 (four months ago) link
That's awesome.
I'd like to imagine Christgau having a similarly contentious argument that ended with Henley hanging up on him over "Where's the Coke?"
― birdistheword, Sunday, 22 October 2023 20:07 (four months ago) link
Rong Night W Cranston was of course depicted in Felder's classick Heaven and Hell: My Life in the Eagles (1974-2001), the only rock book I ever read at a single sitting (my incisive take is way upthread) dig https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91dCWCGNONL._SL1500_.jp
― dow, Monday, 23 October 2023 02:08 (four months ago) link
This should give you the cover image: https://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Hell-Life-Eagles-1974-2001/dp/0470450428
― dow, Monday, 23 October 2023 02:17 (four months ago) link
co-sign on the Felder book, two sittings at a Barnes and Noble, very breezy read
Felder was just so much cooler than Henley/Frey, I think they were jealous, and also assholes of course, such nonsense they wouldn't let the guy sing Those Shoes
Like yeah maybe he isn't as strong a vocalist as Henley but he ain't chopped liver
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysh4kcrTM5Q
― Florin Cuchares, Monday, 23 October 2023 02:56 (four months ago) link
TAKE THE RIDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02nAH_oAjeg
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 October 2023 03:07 (four months ago) link
You have the life every aspiring rock star dreams of, how do you go through it perpetually pissed off?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 23 October 2023 12:56 (four months ago) link
A couple moments from the review of last night's show in Houston (https://www.houstonpress.com/music/last-night-eagles-and-steely-dan-at-the-toyota-center-17494401)
Henley proved an amiable host, thanking fans for their decades long support. “We’ve been playing this music for 52 years,” he said to applause. Then promised a show with “no flashing lights, no confetti cannons, no butt-waving choreography. Just a bunch of guys with guitars.”
GLENN: Maybe *some* butt-waving choreography?
But the winner for most unpleasant four-word combo in the English language goes to...(cymbal-heavy Don drum roll)
As has been for several years, singer/guitarist Glenn Frey’s sizable hole caused by his 2016 death has been filled by his son Deacon Frey and country artist Vince Gill (both on vocals/guitar).
Of all the ways that could be phrased...
I mean, fuck, man...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 18 February 2024 05:29 (one month ago) link
You check out of Glenn Frey's sizable hole any time you like, but you can never leave
Wait, no, how about
Glenn Frey's sizable hole has a peaceful easy feeling
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 February 2024 14:16 (one month ago) link
There are stars in the southern skySouthward as you goThere is moonlight and moss in the treesDown the glen frey's sizable hole
― Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 18 February 2024 14:54 (one month ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/sZnEOCU.jpg
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:15 (one month ago) link
Smuggler’s ‘Roids
― calstars, Sunday, 18 February 2024 15:24 (one month ago) link
desperasshole
― memphis milano: the new trend of the 80s (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 18 February 2024 16:17 (one month ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_in_the_World?wprov=sfla1
Sizable Hole in the World
― fleetwood macrame (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 18 February 2024 19:26 (one month ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/nyregion/eagles-lyrics-trial-hotel-california.html
― calstars, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:03 (three weeks ago) link
What a world we live in where Iggles ephemera has this kind of value
― calstars, Wednesday, 21 February 2024 15:04 (three weeks ago) link
Eagles’ Don Henley ‘regrets’ cocaine-fueled night with 16-year-old prostitute who suffered seizure: ‘I wanted to escape’ https://t.co/vXUKC4pFRy pic.twitter.com/MDBYXXQYCV— New York Post (@nypost) February 26, 2024
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Monday, 26 February 2024 23:08 (three weeks ago) link
What a douche
― calstars, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 00:12 (three weeks ago) link
He could have escaped with a pina colada...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 00:15 (three weeks ago) link
Wait wasn’t 1980 the same year a girl hanging out with Walter Becker died via a coke overdose too? Or do I have that story wrong
― calstars, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 00:20 (three weeks ago) link
After the duo returned to New York in 1978, Becker's girlfriend Karen Roberta Stanley, who was an employee of ABC Dunhill Records and personal manager for the band, died of a drug overdose in his apartment on January 30, 1980, resulting in a wrongful death lawsuit against him.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 00:30 (three weeks ago) link
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 01:38 (three weeks ago) link
wait you guys think you would want to do tom petty like this? i brought it up somewhere else. any interest? someone or some two said they might. man, i couldn't hang with that massive elton john one you guys did. i was just too busy. but i would make time for petty. i don't know why i'm so fixated on him. total normcore! but i can't help myself.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 02:53 (three weeks ago) link
Absolutely. So many good songs!
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 03:03 (three weeks ago) link
OK, Florida Man.
― pplains, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 03:09 (three weeks ago) link
100% down for Petty
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 03:26 (three weeks ago) link
Here for that.
A couple years ago I Was tempted to start one of these for RHCP after one of their threads had very successful and funny revive, but I backed down after realizing how demanding it would be: Counting b-sides, bonus cuts, soundtrack & comp tracks, they have way over 200 songs! It would take about a month to get through Stadium Arcadium, and a little bit longer addressing their two most recent efforts. And you can't limit the scope, because the thread needs to be a California death march.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 03:47 (three weeks ago) link
It may get boring because there won't be much to say about the shitty songs.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:07 (three weeks ago) link
i'm thinking a more stipped-down petty? just the albums. group and solo. would that be cool? i don't think he had a ton of b-sides and odds & sods anyway? maybe i'm wrong. there are two early Mudcrutch singles that aren't that memorable. oh yeah latter day Mudcrutch. would have to include those albums. so, heartbreakers albums, 3 petty solo albums, 2 mudcrutch albums. and the she's the one soundtrack. gotta do that. that's as good as a studio album. there are 14 heartbreakers albums. that's not nothing.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:15 (three weeks ago) link
by the book petty can be kinda one-dimensional. but its all a part of his grand plan. to make people buy roger mcguinn albums.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:16 (three weeks ago) link
LET'S DO IT
can't wait
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:17 (three weeks ago) link
man, an RHCP one would probably literally kill all of us. jesus. they would just find us all in different towns and cities. dead. rhcp playing quietly in the background. so sad.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:18 (three weeks ago) link
okay, one a day. did we do weekends with the eagles? or can we take the weekend off?
also i am not good with pictures. i don't know. my computers are weird now. old laptops. my desktop at work isn't great. so if you guys want to post pictures have at it.
i can post YT vids. if someone else wants to go crazy and be more elaborate i'm happy to let someone do it. otherwise, i will just do it.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:22 (three weeks ago) link
one a day with weekends off works for me!
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:26 (three weeks ago) link
you need your weekends for Northern Exposure reruns.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:36 (three weeks ago) link
exactly <3
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:38 (three weeks ago) link
i could start tomorrow. or next week? no time like the present. do i embed videos or just do links? i did links on this thread but everyone has supersonic computers and phones now, right? i don't think i even remember how to do the link thing. i forgot how to do everything in my dotage.
also we would need a title. someone come up with a good title.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 05:11 (three weeks ago) link
My Middle Name Is Earl: A Tom Petty Listening Thread
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 06:12 (three weeks ago) link
ooooh i like it
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 06:16 (three weeks ago) link
mine is cornyOne of Those Things You Gotta Feel To Be True: A Tom Petty Listening Thread
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 06:19 (three weeks ago) link
The Collected Works of Charlie T. Wilbury Jr (Official ILM Tom Petty Listening Thread)
― Florin Cuchares, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 07:47 (three weeks ago) link
Was tempted to start one of these for RHCP after one of their threads had very successful and funny revive, but I backed down after realizing how demanding it would be
You sure you're up for Petty, then?
― pplains, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 13:36 (three weeks ago) link
RHCP are uhhhh more taxing.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 13:39 (three weeks ago) link
Damn the torpedoes. Perhaps both could have a... simultaneous release.
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 13:57 (three weeks ago) link
you guys vote for a winner title i'm gonna do some stuff here at the store but i'll be back in like 20 minutes.
i'm good with the earl one though!
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 14:01 (three weeks ago) link
For just listening to Petty? Well, yeah. But *running & maintaining a daily thread* on RHCP is another thing entirely (particularly for me in '22-3). I did the math again last night using the Spotify versions of their album catalogue (some of which have bonus tracks), and it weighs in at 225 songs -- which doesn't include some other stray material. Doing five tracks a week...that's almost *a year*.
Like I said upthread, California Death March.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:01 (three weeks ago) link
haha pplains was totally making a joke. i laughed. read their post again.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:09 (three weeks ago) link
anyway we are live. git on it pettyheads.
XP That darn internet humor!
This is the thread revive that made be think it was possible: Does anyone really like the Red Hot Chili Peppers?
Nice engagement, and most interestingly, a set of varying user opinions about what are the best parts of their catalogue.
Also. Chi-Peps!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 15:12 (three weeks ago) link
https://www.billboard.com/business/legal/eagles-stolen-notes-trial-ends-don-henley-manipulated-prosecutors-1235624765/
At a hearing in open court on Wednesday, Justice Curtis Farber sharply criticized Henley and Azoff’s conduct: “It is now clear that both witnesses and their lawyers … used the privilege to obfuscate and hide information that they believed would be damaging to their position that the lyric sheets were stolen.”
The judge said he was also troubled that prosecutors had been “manipulated” into bringing the charges, and questioned why they had not more thoroughly vetted the accusations and the evidence. But he praised them for dropping the case once new evidence had come to light.
― omar little, Friday, 8 March 2024 04:07 (one week ago) link
Wow. Who could have expected such douchebaggery from Don Henley and Irving Azoff?
― birdistheword, Friday, 8 March 2024 04:14 (one week ago) link
Doucheperado
― calstars, Friday, 8 March 2024 16:51 (one week ago) link
xp I am shocked, shocked.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 March 2024 18:36 (one week ago) link
The Eagles will come up at my Pop Conference presentation in a few hours.
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2024 18:39 (one week ago) link
"Uh, Your Honor, new shit has come to light."
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 March 2024 18:41 (one week ago) link
time time tickintickin
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2024 18:41 (one week ago) link