WHAT A DRAG IT IS GETTING POLLED – ILM Artist Poll #16 – The Rolling Stones (Extended deadline: April 1st)

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"92 singles, 29 studio albums, 10 live albums and more songs than you can count" sez www.rollingstones.com/music. What sez ILM?

DEAL IS THUS:
1. RANK YER TOP 20 ROLLING STONES TRACKS, 1-20.
2. Get yer ballot in by the afternoon of Friday, March 30 PST (details below)
3. OPTIONAL: Make it interesting and include yer ranking of Their Satanic Majesties’ 5 BEST ALBUMS and 3 MOST HATED tracks. I’ll report these separately to kick things off.

DETAILS:
• Submit ballots to: pollingstones @ gmail.com

• Normal scoring in effect (1:40, 2:36, 3:33, 4:30, 5:28, 6:26 dropping 1 point per spot from here down to 12 for number 20)
• In addition to the ranking, please state clearly which track is your number one to avoid any potential confusion about whether you ranked 1-20 or 20-1
• Stones releases only. No solo joints, no guest spots, no “Evening Gown,” no “Wicked As It Seems.”
• For albums, assume that UK and US versions are equivalent. Live albums count; comps do not.
• Most hated is a separate category and will not be subtracted from Top 20 totals.
Deadline: Sunday, April 1st. 11PM in Knightsbridge = 6PM on 7th Avenue = 3PM out in Stone Canyon

Tracks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Rolling_Stones_songs
Albums: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:The_Rolling_Stones_albums

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:14 (five years ago) Permalink

can't wait

good luck Peeta Mellark (Bee OK), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:15 (five years ago) Permalink

btw this is going to be quite difficult imo

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:18 (five years ago) Permalink

"Good Luck Everyone!"

Mark G, Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:23 (five years ago) Permalink

11PM in Knightsbridge = 6PM on 7th Avenue = 3PM out in Stone Canyon

lol

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:32 (five years ago) Permalink

A more complete list of songs: http://www.keno.org/Songlistnlyrics.htm

JoeStork, Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:34 (five years ago) Permalink

was gonna vote memo from turner but otherwise agree with no solo stuff

buzza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:36 (five years ago) Permalink

i almost mentioned "memo from turner" specifically -- technically mick but was released on stones comps so fair game as far as i'm concerned

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:36 (five years ago) Permalink

JoeStork thanks for that link. On review, that wikipedia list is balls.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:37 (five years ago) Permalink

ok, memo is back in!

buzza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:45 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, do not go by that wikipedia list

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I feel like I'm having a brain freeze but unreleased songs like CS Blues count, right?

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, "In another land" is always credited to Bill Wyman solo, but that qualifies as well, right?

Mark G, Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:54 (five years ago) Permalink

unreleased: probably won't chart high but go for it imo

"in another land" appears on Their Satanic Majesties Request and therefor qualifies despite also having been released as a bill wyman single

seriously i trust the collective's best judgment on this stuff -- if it's worth a spot on yr ballot it'll get counted

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 06:59 (five years ago) Permalink

If any of their unreleased tracks have a chance at making the results, Cocksucker Blues is the one I'd think.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 22 March 2012 07:01 (five years ago) Permalink

CS Blues is pretty great, but narrowing it to 20 will be hard enough

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 22 March 2012 07:17 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, 20 is particularly brutal in this case

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 07:58 (five years ago) Permalink

my first cut = nearly 70 songs...

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Thursday, 22 March 2012 08:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Ballots will undoubtedly fall into categories of when-did-it-end? Three most common: nothing after Exile (me), nothing after Some Girls, nothing after Tattoo You. If Nick Cohn were voting, it'd be nothing after Aftermath or thereabouts. If the rules were different and Rob Sheffield were voting, it'd be Mick Jagger solo hits very much in play.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 March 2012 11:31 (five years ago) Permalink

That might make a good minipoll some day.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 22 March 2012 11:39 (five years ago) Permalink

How are votes for live versions being calculated (I'd pick "Sympathy" from Ya-Yas over the studio version)?

(I'm also curious because I'm trying to figure out how to tackle this issue when I do the Who poll)

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:31 (five years ago) Permalink

When I did the Beatles one (ah, only one "Live" record, nobody voted a pref in that way), I noted 'alt: versions' votes but compiled them as one.

Mark G, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:40 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah that's the standard practice I think

iatee, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Many thanks to rogermexico for running this one. It should break all existing response records.

kornrulez6969, Thursday, 22 March 2012 13:55 (five years ago) Permalink

yup - votes for alt versions count as votes for the track but will be noted

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Many thanks to rogermexico for running this one. It should break all existing response records.

― kornrulez6969, Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:55 AM

aw... y'all are vv welcome. about time i gave something back to this board. thanks to everyone here for a lot of years of good times and good company.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:08 (five years ago) Permalink

yup - votes for alt versions count as votes for the track but will be noted

Cool, yeah, I was sort of thinking along those lines for the Who poll.

Thanks for doing this! Been looking forward to this one.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Excited for this one! I'll probably put together a ballot over the weekend and let it sit and stew for a couple of days to see if any changes demand to be made before I send it in. I would love for this one to break the Bowie record, but with a 9-day voting period, a lot of people in the "yeah I'll get around to it...ooops I forgot" camp are going to have to pull their thumb out and just make the time.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:16 (five years ago) Permalink

this ballot is going to break my mind tbh

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Won't someone post a comprehensive list of songs that voters (or potential voters) can c/p and sift through idly/agonize about (your choice)?

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:26 (five years ago) Permalink

There's one upthread already. (see links)

Anyways, sented..

Mark G, Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh ok, thanks. I did skim a bit.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 March 2012 14:33 (five years ago) Permalink

voted. much easier than I anticipated.

smash williams, Thursday, 22 March 2012 15:44 (five years ago) Permalink

eeek yeah this is gonna be tough

I put together a provisional ballot w/o thinking about it toooo much, but then I have to strategize a bit since I could easily vote for 40 songs off the top of my head. Do I cut singles, or most singles, knowing they'll be fine w/o me? I guess! Do I lean heavily on the "twee Stones" era I love so much, knowing that it'll likely be in vain? I think so! Do I care that my ballot is 60s heavy? I guess not!

anyway Flowers is pretty much the best

Euler, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I wanna see the Dirty Work contingent up in here.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Do I lean heavily on the "twee Stones" era I love so much, knowing that it'll likely be in vain?

Hard to tell when your love's in vain iirc

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:29 (five years ago) Permalink

great thread title btw

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:30 (five years ago) Permalink

what a drag it is cutting "Live With Me"

Euler, Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:31 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost it was that or "i rate tracks for the troubadours"

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 16:37 (five years ago) Permalink

done!

gospodin simmel, Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I know what my number 1 is. after that... uh

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:17 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna play too!

this is gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Shit's impossible. I thought I knew what my #1 would be, then about seven other songs decided THEY wanted to be #1...it's gonna take forever to clean up this mess.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 22 March 2012 18:27 (five years ago) Permalink

I want to thank this poll for getting me to finally "get" Emotional Rescue....that album slams!

Euler, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:28 (five years ago) Permalink

and on that note: Rolling Stones' "Emotional Rescue" - C or D?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:33 (five years ago) Permalink

iiiiii am your knight
in shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiining aaaaaarmour

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

"Where The Boys Go" is terrific; I may have to make space for it on my ballot.

Euler, Thursday, 22 March 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

voted

Let's Talk About Socks (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 22 March 2012 23:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I've been listening to the Stones since Hot Rocks, age 8, and only now will I be hearing any record of theirs from Undercover to the present. Any last bits of advice?

Iago Galdston, Friday, 23 March 2012 00:04 (five years ago) Permalink

hearing "all" the records from 1982 to the present, I mean--kind of daunted by it and hope they're not awful!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 23 March 2012 00:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Go boldly. See you on the other side...

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 00:37 (five years ago) Permalink

For some reason Voodoo Lounge I imagine as the worst...we'll see

Iago Galdston, Friday, 23 March 2012 00:39 (five years ago) Permalink

It's been a long time since I revisted that time period but a lot of it resembles varying cirlces of hell, iirc

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 02:11 (five years ago) Permalink

There's at least a couple of good tracks on voodoo lounge and one on bridges to babylon.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 03:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I hadn't ever listened to anything since Dirty Work until tonight -- really kind of surprised to enjoy A Bigger Bang as much as I did.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Friday, 23 March 2012 03:12 (five years ago) Permalink

Bigger Bang is pretty listenable. It's not great, but it's better for the lame-Stones era, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 03:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Totally forgot how epic Can't You Hear Me Knocking is. It's like they morph into Santana halfway through

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 03:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Mick Taylor-dominated Stones songs, I gotta remember to put (the Keefless) "Sway" on my ballot.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 03:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Keef sings backing vox so there

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 04:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I got/get the impression "Bigger Bang" was a final "look let's end on a great album" as far as the discography is concerned. Whereas they may well keep doing five-yearly tours forever.

Mark G, Friday, 23 March 2012 07:53 (five years ago) Permalink

The only embarrassing Stones albums post-Tattoo You are Undercover (I'll save "She Was Hot" and "Too Much Blood" adn damn the test) and about half of Bridges to Babylon. At worst the other albums are perfunctory.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 12:32 (five years ago) Permalink

wow "Moonlight Mile' sounds like something off of Merriweather Post Pavilion in the verses...!

waiting in the shadow of the Big Gulp (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Moonlight Mile is one of my faves, but I'm pretty sure She Smiled Sweetly will be my #1. My ballot will probably have a lot of singles/familiar tracks, though.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Ballot sent. Waffled on my #1, but after listening to it three times in a row this morning, yeah, it's definitely my favorite Stones song.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm thinking about ranking a top 40, then chopping off 1-20 and sending in 21-40 as my ballot. Just for perversity's sake.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:19 (five years ago) Permalink

ha! Moonlight Mile is probably going to make my top 10 but not top 5, certainly not #1!

waiting in the shadow of the Big Gulp (loves laboured breathing), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Just wanna rep for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydHupXGnzPU

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 14:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Ideally I'd do a top forty, then strip out the singles and submit the rest, but too many of those standards are undeniable. The thought of not voting for Saint Of Me is giving me a cold sweat.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 March 2012 14:57 (five years ago) Permalink

"Try A Little Harder" is a jam, love that echo at the end when the song sounds like it's falling apart.

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:00 (five years ago) Permalink

Might have to sit this one out, feeling like my list would be particularly useless for the Stones (unless I spend hours relistening to albums). Will be really excited to see the results though.

grandavis, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:01 (five years ago) Permalink

re. standards, right now I feel like I gotta vote for "Gimme Shelter", "Paint It, Black", & "Sympathy", but I'm relistening & those'll be the ones to fall should I rate anything higher. Or else I'll cut "Lady Jane", which is a standard too I guess.

not gonna cut "Brown Sugar" though

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:02 (five years ago) Permalink

will definitely vote "saint of me" over "brown sugar," though I have no idea if either will make my final cut

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Out of curiosity, what is the logic behind not voting standards? Is it so the results are more varied?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:16 (five years ago) Permalink

in my case I'm seeing the PS poll with a bunch of standards, & it's not so interesting to me to know which of those are highly rated & which aren't; when I've found these polls interesting it's b/c of less prominent songs that have been rated highly (the Pavement poll was useful to me this way; so was the Blur poll). Since I know the Stones pretty well I want to do my part to make this happen; it'll probably end with unsatisfaction but w/e.

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:21 (five years ago) Permalink

goddam that was brutal. maybe the most time and effort i've ever put into a single-artist poll vote? wound up stacking my top 10 with personal favorites i hope to nudge into the bottom of the countdown, saved the bigger singles for the lower half of my ballot. early 70s heavily represented, w three from exile and four from goat's head soup. also a bunch of stuff from '67, between the buttons and satanic majesties. only two songs post '73, one from emotional rescue, one from tattoo you. nothing from sticky fingers.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:31 (five years ago) Permalink

suspect that few of my votes will make the cut :(

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:32 (five years ago) Permalink

could have voted for the last 20 songs i cut from my ballot almost as happily

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:36 (five years ago) Permalink

haw, this is going to be hard. might just pick 10 from the 60s, 10 fro the 70s? don't think i'd vote for anything past that.

tylerw, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:38 (five years ago) Permalink

i'd like to put in a good word for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LNmR5Ja1sc

smash williams, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:48 (five years ago) Permalink

^ good one!

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:49 (five years ago) Permalink

I could happily put the whole disc 3 of the Singles Collection for half my ballot.

smash williams, Friday, 23 March 2012 15:55 (five years ago) Permalink

lemme know if you don't get my ballot(s), rogermexico (sent my album votes as a separate message).

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:55 (five years ago) Permalink

while we're boosterizing, i'd like to put in a word for:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt37Fj1U5iM

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

^ their "venus in furs" moment

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 15:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm not sure yet, but this might be somewhere near the end of my list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlsudiYhn4

clemenza, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Twee Stones Poll

a fav Stones thread of mine

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Out of curiosity, what is the logic behind not voting standards? Is it so the results are more varied?

Yeah a bit, not that one ballot will make much difference. Also it's that I love a lot of things pretty much equally, and if I don't vote for Satisfaction it'll still make it, but if I don't vote for Ventilator Blues it probably won't.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:21 (five years ago) Permalink

^ yeah, that was my thinking. pushed hard for the things i'd love to see make the countdown, but suspect won't. figure "you can't always get what you want" will do fine without my help.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 16:24 (five years ago) Permalink

listening to Dirty Work right now & think what's hard for me is Mick's voice; he's more shouty than I'd like. The songs are fast & direct, Keith's playing sounds great, the melodies are sharp, but Mick sounds almost hoarse. It's the voice he has on "Start Me Up" too, but it seems worse here.

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I can imagine their equivalent of "Hey Jude" failing to make it, like in the Beatles Poll...

Mark G, Friday, 23 March 2012 16:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I didn't think I would vote for stuff like Satisfaction or Jumpin Jack Flash, but as I listen to them in amongst the things I think I *will* vote for, I've been surprised by how hard it is to say 'eh I could live without it'. Satisfaction came on while I was driving home last night and after I really took the time to listen and not just tune it out, I was saying to myself, 'you know, I've heard this song a thousand times but it's really fucking great."

I'm probably just being insecute. But like with the Paul Simon poll ppl are like "ugh these are the worst results ever" when popular songs rank more highly than the deep cuts. And it's kind of nuts to me. Paul Simon was a GREAT songwriter. He had a TON of popular songs.

The Stones are prolific. They're not a band that noodled around with only a couple of recognizable hits and left all their best stuff on 5 albums no-one heard. Half their material was popular, ubiquitous stuff. That's a GOOD thing! That's why we're still talking about them after what, 40 or 50 years. I guess I just get intimidated by all the deep cuts, like I'm going to be the rube voter who ruins it for everyone, lol.

I dunno. I'm tired, I need more coffee. I like the process and I love participating in the polls I've joined in on after years of lurking. I'll try not to get intimidated :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:00 (five years ago) Permalink

fuuuuuuuuck talk about tl;dr

sorry!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:00 (five years ago) Permalink

"insecute"?

new word

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Hey, don't worry - those should be the meat of the poll! I love it when the odd deep cut turns up unexpectedly high, but only when it's one I like. I guess I'm hoping that one day mine will chime with the ILM collective unconscious.

It has to be random though - worst thing ever was on the metal poll, where the #1 was this lurked block vote thing that a lot of folk had never heard of.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:10 (five years ago) Permalink

like with the Paul Simon poll ppl are like "ugh these are the worst results ever" when popular songs rank more highly than the deep cuts. And it's kind of nuts to me...

OTM imo. Like, "American Tune" is deeply personally important to me, but "Graceland" absolutely transcends and there's nothing wrong with that.

The Stones are prolific. They're not a band that noodled around with only a couple of recognizable hits and left all their best stuff on 5 albums no-one heard. Half their material was popular, ubiquitous stuff.

I'm not sure about this. I'm still amazed by how many people in the general population base their entire notion of the Stones on HOT ROCKS. And you, like, give them a copy of STICKY FINGERS or LET IT BLEED and they're like "whoa, i had no idea."

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

ps and thank you for the tl;dr -- kinda hearkens back to the old days. ou sont les kogans d'antan?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm still amazed by how many people in the general population base their entire notion of the Stones on HOT ROCKS.

I have a feeling none of those people will be voting in this poll, LOL

kornrulez6969, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:21 (five years ago) Permalink

haha. on which note:

Taking Sides: Let It Bleed VS. Sticky Fingers

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

tbf hot rocks is one of the best greatest hits comps ever. xp

tylerw, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

xxxpost that is a good point rog, re HOT ROCKS; Exile was the first Stones album I heard in full and it completely changed the way I felt about them after only really knowing their hits. So I take that part back :D

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, i love reading long, thoughtful posts, so no worries, VG.

I didn't think I would vote for stuff like Satisfaction or Jumpin Jack Flash, but as I listen to them in amongst the things I think I *will* vote for, I've been surprised by how hard it is to say 'eh I could live without it'. Satisfaction came on while I was driving home last night and after I really took the time to listen and not just tune it out, I was saying to myself, 'you know, I've heard this song a thousand times but it's really fucking great."

oh yeah, i never even considered cutting "satisfaction". for a while, i thought it might be my #1. emphasizing beloved deep cuts is one thing, but i'm not crazy.

and "insecute" is a great word :)

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

tbf hot rocks is one of the best greatest hits comps ever. xp

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Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

eh, there were people on the beach boys poll that pretty much stuck to the early stripey shirt hits because that's all they know. it's totally fine if people want to do that but i favor the "true heads only" approach

buzza, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

re hot rocks: it's 21 tracks, and i love every song on it. cut any one song at random and you'd have a perfectly respectable ballot. only five of those tracks made my final cut, but i'm rooting hard for the underdogs.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:34 (five years ago) Permalink

based on early balloting i think it's safe to say this is going to be a high-beta poll. might even be possible, when it's all over, to find at least two ballots with zero overlap. so go ahead and vote yr hearts and let the chips fall where they may.

but what the hell, let's talk deep cuts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oExTf5jIVoM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih5dbyZoIF0

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

i think the rolling stones are my favorite rock band. no one else really comes close in terms of quality, variety + quantity.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:36 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, i tried for ages to find a way to cut "star star", mostly so i wouldn't have such a ridiculously goats head heavy ballot, but i just couldn't do it. love that song to death.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:38 (five years ago) Permalink

soundgarden not doing that song any favors

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

semi-deep cut under consideration for me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwu0MQrk_ec
one of my fave stones ballads. kinda autopilot stones, but great nonetheless. lovvvvve the "wish i was out in california" lyric.

tylerw, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

^^ disagree on autopilot stones and expect it on my ballot. mick and mick really worked well together (cf. "Sway")

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:53 (five years ago) Permalink

damn youtube previews -- that's Lindsey Buckingham on "I Am Waiting" and it's quite lovely

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

xp well, by autopilot i mean it sorta seems like the band was like "wot, we need another ballad? alrightee." and then they knock it out of the park. seems effortless.

tylerw, Friday, 23 March 2012 17:55 (five years ago) Permalink

oh SHIT I left "Sway" off my ballot! ARrrgg!

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

winter's good, but it's the one goats head track i had under consideration that i did eventually cut. lot of stones ballads i like better.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:59 (five years ago) Permalink

i mean, sway's better, and i cut that too, no regrets

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 17:59 (five years ago) Permalink

"Star Star" in contention for my ballot; "Stray Cat Blues" vying for my top spot with "I Am Waiting" (which I didn't realize had been featured in a popular film until a clip was posted recently; the song's been one of my favorites for a long time but I'm not much for films)

"Sway" will be high on mine too

we are in the groove now!

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:00 (five years ago) Permalink

deep cuts!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXLELdezjuE

okay, not a deep cut but come AWN:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqCrGnNXDI

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:02 (five years ago) Permalink

I can play this game too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FhkS2r2dP4

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:04 (five years ago) Permalink

going through the London years comp. man this band made a lot of shit. I mean there's tons of great stuff too but 50 years of shameless careerism results in a fair amount of detritus.

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:05 (five years ago) Permalink

btw i'm not posting the KISS cover of 2000 man because it's a bit dire imo but if anyone can find the comsat angels cover of "citadel" plz post

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

are we really posting stones covers on you tube on the poll thread? people, please!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:09 (five years ago) Permalink

rogermexico must be reading my ballot by telepathy or else has tremendous taste

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 18:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Am going to do proper homework for this one. Queued up Aftermath, Between The Buttons and Goat's Head for re-listen. I don't think I've heard Aftermath before. Treats abound!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:15 (five years ago) Permalink

i do congratulate cibbo matto for finding the song "why don't we sing this song all together" always wanted to be. only stones cover i can think of that significantly improves on the original.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:16 (five years ago) Permalink

except with one less bee

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:16 (five years ago) Permalink

sort of bummed by all these cover versions, because "2000 light years from home" is COMPLETELY GREAT, and while that monster magnet cover is cool in its way, it's not really doing the song any favors

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:18 (five years ago) Permalink

"why don't we sing this song all together"

lol brain damage

[it's not really all that funny]

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 18:19 (five years ago) Permalink

i do congratulate cibbo matto for finding the song "why don't we sing this song all together" always wanted to be

pretty much. the original isn't bad at all, but CM's version is an improvement/refinement

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Aftermath and Between the Buttons are my favorite albums (like, ever) but I just couldn't choose between all of those deep cuts. so only 2 songs from each made it (not even that since Ruby Tuesday is not on my favorite version of BTB).

gospodin simmel, Friday, 23 March 2012 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Sleeper off of GHS

hell yes, highest-placing GHS track on my ballot

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:50 (five years ago) Permalink

listen to "100 years ago" if you haven't yet

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:50 (five years ago) Permalink

^^ after "Star Star" it's the only GHS track worth a damn imo.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

listening to Dirty Work right now & think what's hard for me is Mick's voice; he's more shouty than I'd like.

This is why I love the record: a pissed-off, impatient Mick feeding off the aggression in the riffs and rhythms. I don't think he's ever sung a lyric like "I've been caught in this tree of promises for over forty years."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Angie

Ismael Klata, Friday, 23 March 2012 19:52 (five years ago) Permalink

yes, and i love etc etc "heartbreaker" though ymmv

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

huh gonna have to listen to Dirty Work with that in mind, then.

Euler, Friday, 23 March 2012 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

dunno if I can bear to subject myself to anything post-Emotional Rescue

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:13 (five years ago) Permalink

^ hell yeah it is. only TY track to make my ballot, though i really had to agonize over cutting "no use in crying".

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Townshend and Rollins, together at last!

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:16 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost so slinky

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:17 (five years ago) Permalink

"little t&a" hurt too

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:18 (five years ago) Permalink

ripping version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr0yOcTVs88

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:22 (five years ago) Permalink

ragh it's not on youtube but Australian band The Beasts of Bourbon has a great cover of "Dead Flowers" on their Live & Rare compilation.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

goddamn I love "Summer Romance"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

I've been noticing with their late 60's-early 70's songs that do a lot of interesting things with their songs in the outros...like they're not a 'repeat refrain/repeat chorus/fade out', it'll turn into a whole new jam and just as it fades out you're like 'hey whoa stop that was cool'

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

No need to rep for the song, but any excuse to post a Who clip...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVkiW4_JyuM

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 23 March 2012 20:45 (five years ago) Permalink

What are ilxors feelings abt the really early stuff, covers and whatnot?

I really love stuff like "Not Fade Away", "Oh Carol", "I Wanna Be Your Man", even their "Route 66".

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Without giving too much away, at least two of those are on my list.

Mark G, Friday, 23 March 2012 23:44 (five years ago) Permalink

What are ilxors feelings abt the really early stuff....?

xpost: Around and Around beats Chuck Berry; "I wanna be your man" betters the beatles, and i like the others you mentioned. only a couple times did they miss, imo (talkin' about "under the boardwalk" for example)

epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:47 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah Under the Boardwalk was not a good fit for them.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

a lot of their early stuff is clumsy and or outright offensive in its brazen ripoff-ness but "Not Fade Away", you can't fuck with stuff like that. Phil Spector on maracas iirc.

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

says the guy who just listened to the entirety of the London Years box

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:48 (five years ago) Permalink

it's also readily apparent that Keith was a startlingly good guitar player right from the get-go. he's often the best thing about those early singles.

the sir edmund hillary of sitting through pauly shore films (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Lennon seemed kinda pissy when he tried to play off "I Wanna Be Your Man" later on, like 'meh it wasn't a very good song anyway so who cares, we made Ringo sing it" but Stones played the HELL out of it. That opening guitar is just like WHOA undeniable

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:53 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost lol Shakey I'm ploughing through London Years this afternoon :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:53 (five years ago) Permalink

the early stuff is definitely best when it's in Keith's rock n roll wheelhouse, which sorta seems like Mick's wheelhouse too.
and Mick's harmonica in some of those early rockers is really good. makes me want to punch John Popper so hard, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:54 (five years ago) Permalink

xcept maybe not just rock but blues, because Heart of Stone is kinda slow tempo but it really works. But some of the really ballady songs early are just, ick, no.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Lennon seemed kinda pissy when he tried to play off "I Wanna Be Your Man" later on, like 'meh it wasn't a very good song anyway so who cares, we made Ringo sing it" but Stones played the HELL out of it. That opening guitar is just like WHOA undeniable

Plus you have Brian Jones playing the hottest white guy slide guitar in the world circa '63 in the solo.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:59 (five years ago) Permalink

Jagger's an amazing harmonica player, one of my top three (Keef's said many times that Mick playing represents one of his few unguarded moments).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:02 (five years ago) Permalink

I saw Keef said that about Jagger's harmonica in his book, and I started paying attention to it more, and to other harmonica from other artists...Jagger really does blow lovely, long clear notes. Like the equivalent of hearing a really great sax player vs a mediocre one.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:06 (five years ago) Permalink

"Sweet Virginia"!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:11 (five years ago) Permalink

The early covers are incredible, but the live version of Little Queenie from Get Yer Ya-Ya's Out is my absolute favorite and will make my top 20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4WDmfmGHI8

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:14 (five years ago) Permalink

What are ilxors feelings abt the really early stuff....?

i only heard the UK version of the self-titled album (the one that kicks off with 'route 66') for the first time a couple of years ago. it's absolutely killer from start to finish, easily my favorite stones album along with 'let it bleed.'

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:15 (five years ago) Permalink

I have now listened to my mono vinyl copies of the 1st LP and 12x5, thanks ILX

their early discography is SO confusing. I'm still totally mixed up about UK vs US editions.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Sweet Virginia...oh the harmonica in that KILLS me

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:49 (five years ago) Permalink

What are ilxors feelings abt the really early stuff, covers and whatnot?

I can think of one that will probably make my ballot -- one that hasn't been mentioned yet.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I wonder if anyone will vote for Goin' Home? I never can get with that one, don't know why....

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 24 March 2012 00:56 (five years ago) Permalink

It's irritating that Spotify blocks that track (I guess because it's longer than 10 minutes?). But I think I still have my copy of Aftermath around here somewhere.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:01 (five years ago) Permalink

this is insane

if i submit a top 20 i'll regret it two minutes later

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:03 (five years ago) Permalink

this seems harder than the beatles poll...or any poll i can remember.

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:06 (five years ago) Permalink

mookie otm. my tentative top 20 yesterday went almost completely out the window today.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Y'all wanna hear something totally nuts? Okay.

I used to think Mick Jagger was a weak vocalist.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:08 (five years ago) Permalink

the cool thing is that this will no doubt uncover some gems i don't know -- in most of these polls i've already heard everything, it's just a matter of order

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:11 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost that is nuts

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:31 (five years ago) Permalink

not the finest instrument but an exceptional player

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that was the distinction it took me a few years to figure out.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:37 (five years ago) Permalink

I can understand how he looks tacky and silly but the guy invented singing in a rock and roll band.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

he also helped invent Bowie.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Just because

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juEeau5nHVU

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Just realized that I kind of can't stand Ruby Tuesday

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:02 (five years ago) Permalink

one for the "most hated" sub-poll -- I hope that one gets enough ballots to run the results

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:05 (five years ago) Permalink

This interview is a mother load of material; it's his equivalent to Lennon's Playboy interviews.

So is this: http://www.timeisonourside.com/track67-72.html

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:09 (five years ago) Permalink

oooh thanks Alfred!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:21 (five years ago) Permalink

side story about Ruby Tuesday.

I already didn't much like RT bc of the recorder-playing - I had to learn the recorder in primary school and haaated it, and I still get a bit of a twitch if I have to hear too much of it, lol.
But then my friend in college had this whole ritual she went through every year - when she was 16 her best friend committed suicide, and so on the anniversary of her death my friend would wear this girl's favorite color (yellow), buy a bunch of her favorite flowers (daffodils), and listen to her favorite song (Ruby Tuesday). She would play that song ALL day. ALL DAY.
And it drove me crazy because by then I had found out about Exile On Main STreet, and Let It Bleed; she had bought the Hot Rocks cd soley for RT, and it was the ONLY song she ever listened to on it bc of this bloody ritual.

it was all just kind of weird and annoying. We're still friends, she stopped with the ritual after a few years (at least publicly, for all I know she still does it).

But ugh everytime I hear it I just remember the piercing recorder notes bleeding through my dormitory wall and being very unhappy.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:29 (five years ago) Permalink

listen to "100 years ago" if you haven't yet

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, March 23, 2012

it's a van morrison song, i'n'it? until it isn't.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 02:48 (five years ago) Permalink

stones party http://outloud.fm/ILXORS

brio, Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Things are not going well for me, pollwise. I've added 20 more songs to my list just today alone. Ffffffuuuuuuuuuu

Re-listening to "Let It Bleed" tonight. Fuckin good times here in my headphones.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:13 (five years ago) Permalink

And loving the Rolling Stone Jagger interview.

The stuff about Brian is sad/amusing. "I've never known a guy with less talent for songwriting." For someone so talented with so many instruments, the more I read about Brian the more he sounds like a total fucking nightmare to be around.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:15 (five years ago) Permalink

i voted ruby tuesday in my top 20

http://gifsoup.com/view6/1990889/mick-wink-o.gif

buzza, Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I still love you

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:39 (five years ago) Permalink

YOU PASSED SO BAD GAS!

buzza, Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:45 (five years ago) Permalink

i thought that was a flute in ruby tuesday. it sounds like flowers flowering in fast motion

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:46 (five years ago) Permalink

minus all that cinematic chitnzy stuff

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:47 (five years ago) Permalink

i know what #1 is tho

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 March 2012 03:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I've got #1 and #2 at least in a nice waltz together. Possibly my 5 in a melty sort of way.

But listening to Let It Bleed was a bad idea, I want to add nearly the whole album to my 20.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:01 (five years ago) Permalink

xxpost there's flute in RT but I always heard some recorders or something in there too. Could be wrong, I've never actually looked at the instrument list.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Nope. Not flute. Recorder. Played by Cock Robin himself, Jonesy.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:02 (five years ago) Permalink

well that's depressing

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:03 (five years ago) Permalink

my ballot is going to be boringly 67-70 heavy

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Not boring! Those are the good ones!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:05 (five years ago) Permalink

well obviously but it still feels less than authentic

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I feel like the more time I spend listening to albums the more depressed I get about ever being able to narrow down to 20.

And have I ever thrown myself into anything with as much verve and dedication? doubtful.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:10 (five years ago) Permalink

For some reason, nothing from my favorite Stones album made my top 20. I wish I understood why I did that, but I think it's because I hear the album as a whole, and it seems weird hearing something from it in isolation.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:11 (five years ago) Permalink

xp Haha, yeah, I made a list of all possible ballot-worthy songs, thinking I wouldn't have 20, and I had 60. My ballot could easily change day-to-day...or hour-to-hour...but the more I listen to my #1, the more I'm convinced I did the right thing. And it's not one that immediately sprung to mind as a #1 (or even a top 10).

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:12 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost I think that's what I'm wrestling with with a few of the Exile songs. I think of them with the songs around them so much that listening to them in isolation is kind of dissatisfying. Which doesn't bode well for them.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:15 (five years ago) Permalink

themthemthemthem ugh

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, wrt Exile, some of my favorite moments are things like "Just Wanna See His Face" or "Hip Shake," but they lose a lot out of context. Still, managed to get about 3 or 4 Exile songs on my ballot.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Rocks Off is such a KICKASS opener but I don't know how I feel about it just as a song song...and Tumbling Dice fucking rules but why does it feel so plodding away from the rest of the album.

I need a xanax.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:25 (five years ago) Permalink

i feel totally the same way about Exile!

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:25 (five years ago) Permalink

i mean, it's hard seperating the individual tracks from the overall album experience

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:26 (five years ago) Permalink

It's not as hard with Sticky Fingers or Beggars or Let It Bleed, but then it's that thing of how MANY to pick, and are ALL these songs off this album really THAT awesome? Then you start playing lifeboat with your best friends, 'sorry, you can't build anything, you'll be useless on the island, bye I love you"

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I threw "Sway" a life preserver.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:34 (five years ago) Permalink

i appreciate that because i think i had to scrap it :/

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:39 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^u MAD

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:44 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm gay (i'm happy)

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 04:49 (five years ago) Permalink

WHY WOULD YOU SCRAP SWAY

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 05:09 (five years ago) Permalink

In the early-'70s, my grade-school friend Pat Hutchinson's family had a boarder named Heather living with them. She was a total hippychick, and I still remember seeing the words "Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday" painted on the wall of her room in very elaborate and colourful script. I knew next to nothing about the Rolling Stones at the time, and while I may have heard "Ruby Tuesday" on the radio, I didn't associate the song with them or the words on the wall with the song.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 March 2012 05:10 (five years ago) Permalink

where is heather now and does she know you loved her

mookieproof, Saturday, 24 March 2012 05:12 (five years ago) Permalink

She does now (pitter-patter)...probably Communications Director for Michelle Bachmann or something.

clemenza, Saturday, 24 March 2012 05:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't think I fully appreciated Exile til I was in my post-grad year of uni doing my teaching degree, hanging out with jaded 30 year olds who smoked and drank with an abandon I'd never known (I was about 21). This particular night the whole group of us hung out at this one guy's apartment listening to Exile on his record player, chain smoking and drinking red wine out of coffee mugs. everyone was singing and getting wasted and it was fucking brilliant.

It's a good drinking album.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 05:20 (five years ago) Permalink

^^ yeah, i've drunk a lot of red to Exile.

really dig some of the gems tucked away right at the end of the album. "all down the line" is a totally unhinged good-time killer track and "soul survivor" just has perfect flow, despite being made up of seemingly disparate parts. they are both going to get some love from me in this poll.

charlie h, Saturday, 24 March 2012 05:36 (five years ago) Permalink

dang those are both songs i wish i had voted for. exile is the stones album i enjoy listening to the most, but my favorite songs of theirs cluster around the late 60's period.

deaths and oil painting graphics (blank), Saturday, 24 March 2012 05:54 (five years ago) Permalink

i wound up with something like exile 10 tracks on my short list, far more than any other single album, but wound up "only" including three in my top 20. two begin with the word "sweet" and the other involves what can be accomplished only while asleep. struggled bitterly with "soul survivor", "ventilator blues" and "turd on the run", but eventually let them go. flirts with being my favorite record of any kind, ever.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 06:33 (five years ago) Permalink

listen to "100 years ago" if you haven't yet

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, March 23, 2012

it's a van morrison song, i'n'it? until it isn't.

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, March 23, 2012 7:48 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

idgi. it's credited to jagger/richards. you saying it sounds like a van morrison song? i guess i don't know VM well enough...

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 06:34 (five years ago) Permalink

That Jagger/RS interview was really interesting.

Never really took the time to appreciate Jagger's, um, economy of words. Like, he doesn't want to say a lot but he's very good at succinctly drilling to the heart of something when he wants to. His thoughts about the cross-dressing/male-female appeal was really interesting, and his thoughts about him as a 'rock star' now vs when he was starting out, the whole thrill of forging a new road in still very new style of music vs doing it now where it's pretty much the standard.

And I admire his early rebellion, given the environment he grew up in, it must have taken some balls to just put his foot down and forge ahead.

I dunno, I came away with a slightly better view of him than I've had in a while. I like him as a performer, I just never always liked him, but I guess he never really wants anyone to know him so..

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 06:43 (five years ago) Permalink

My top-rankIng Exile track is Rip This Joint. Not sure they ever rocked that hard before or since.

Left all sorts of insanely great things off, including Satisfaction and Sway. And I guess I can understand hating Ruby Tuesday, but it was the first Stones song I ever loved, when I was about 9 and got into my dad's copy of Flowers, so is a sentimental #1. Love the pummeling snare drum lead-in to the chorus. (also have Lady Jane on the ballot -- soft spot for baroque Stones)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 March 2012 07:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't dislike "Ruby Tuesday," but I love other songs on Between the Buttons so much more that I sometimes forget "Ruby Tuesday" is even on that record. So if you're out tonight, don't forget, if you're on your bike, wear white.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:04 (five years ago) Permalink

It's no surprise Jagger's smart as a whip but it was also refreshing to read that interview in '95 or whatever and realize he remains the least sentimental major rock and roller ever.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:12 (five years ago) Permalink

I put together a playlist of 61 songs, all the way up to Little T&A and She Was Hot, heh. The first 19 were pretty easy, but #20 is a showdown between 19th Nervous Breakdown, Moonlight Mile, Happy and Ventilator Blues.

Fastnbulbous, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:42 (five years ago) Permalink

Ventilator Blues! It's the most fun to strut & pout to. Whatcha gonna *do* 'bout it?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 12:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Such a wide range of recording/engineering quality in the earliest material... "Come On" is crystalline, "I Wanna Be Your Man" is overdriven mud.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Listening to Dirty Work for the first time just to make sure I didn't leave anything important off my ballot. "One Hit" was a contender, but ended up getting cut. This being the first time I've heard "Winning Ugly" in 20+ years, I'm shocked at how not-horribly it's aged. I kinda dig it.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 March 2012 14:40 (five years ago) Permalink

you saying it sounds like a van morrison song?

― Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Friday, March 23, 2012

Yes. But then it goes somewhere Van wouldn't.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh! The other thing I liked about the Jagger interview was the little quip about Altamont: he said something like, oh you journalists talked about the death of innocence, I was just upset that a person had died, for her family. YEAH JANN.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:24 (five years ago) Permalink

WENNER: What about the contribution of Mick Taylor to the band in these years?

JAGGER: I think he had a big contribution. He made it very musical. He was a very fluent, melodic player, which we never had, and we don’t have now. Neither Keith nor [Ronnie Wood] plays that kind of style. It was very good for me working with him. Charlie and I were talking about this the other day, because we could sit down – I could sit down – with Mick Taylor, and he would play very fluid lines against my vocals. He was exciting, and he was very pretty, and it gave me something to follow, to bang off. Some people think that’s the best version of the band that existed.

WENNER: What do you think?

JAGGER: They’re all interesting periods. They’re all different. I obviously can’t say if I think Mick Taylor was the best, because it sort of trashes the period the band is in now.

WENNER: Why did Mick Taylor leave?

JAGGER: I still don’t really know.

WENNER: He never explained?

JAGGER: Not really. He wanted to have a solo career. I think he found it difficult to get on with Keith.

WENNER: On musical issues?

JAGGER: Everything. I’m guessing.

Volumes here, when you think about Jagger/Taylor tracks like "Sway," "Moonlight Mile," "Winter" etc.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 15:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Reading that interview in 199-whatever confirmed my suspicions about where Keith wasn't (i.e. "Sway" and "Moonlight Mile").

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

that inteview was great. thanks Alfred!

gospodin simmel, Saturday, 24 March 2012 18:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Part of me wonders if Jagger says that stuff about Taylor knowing that Keef is reading...

Not that Taylor isn't great, but Keef is your guy whether you want him or not, dude.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:45 (five years ago) Permalink

my friend in college had this whole ritual she went through every year - when she was 16 her best friend committed suicide, and so on the anniversary of her death my friend would wear this girl's favorite color (yellow), buy a bunch of her favorite flowers (daffodils), and listen to her favorite song (Ruby Tuesday). She would play that song ALL day. ALL DAY.
And it drove me crazy because by then I had found out about Exile On Main STreet, and Let It Bleed; she had bought the Hot Rocks cd soley for RT, and it was the ONLY song she ever listened to on it bc of this bloody ritual.

it was all just kind of weird and annoying

Loved this btw - I guess it's maybe not something to be especially proud of, but I can totally relate to hating on someone's memorial for spoiling this shiny new album you just bought.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Part of me wonders if Jagger says that stuff about Taylor knowing that Keef is reading...

Not that Taylor isn't great, but Keef is your guy whether you want him or not, dude.

according to an interview Keef gave last fall, there's no hard feelings. He invited Taylor and Wyman to join him, Ronnie, and Charlie to jam.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Vegemite Grrl otm abt the catty subtext of Jagger on Taylor, esp "I obviously can’t say if I think Mick Taylor was the best, because it sort of trashes the period the band is in now." Uh, except you just said exactly that, dude.

And I wouldn't expect there to be any hard feelings between KR and Taylor. It's more that Jagger's statements suggest tensions between Richards and himself.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Saturday, 24 March 2012 20:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Interesting to note that songs we like to think of as classic Jagger-Richards compositions like "Brown Sugar," "Sympathy...," and "Miss You" are Jagger-only songs.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Ruby Tuesday is gonna be waaaay up near the top of my ballot--it's a bit tainted by all the boomer love, I suppose, but that melody, my god, so beautiful

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:02 (five years ago) Permalink

What Jagger rather artfully elides in the interview -- artfully because he does suggest it -- is that Taylor left in large part b/ he was fed up with not getting songwriting credit on stuff like "Sway" and "Moonlight Mile" -- for all those "dreamy" lovely lead lines Jagger raves about.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:02 (five years ago) Permalink

Legend has it that Wood was their first choice before Taylor. The story goes that someone from the Stones' camp called during a Faces rehearsal. Ronnie Lane (or Ian MacLagan, depending on the account) answered the phone and said, "Nope, he doesn't want to join the Stones; he's happy with the Faces." Wood didn't find out about this until years later.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 March 2012 21:38 (five years ago) Permalink

convenient legend that. agreed with alfred that mick is quite forthcoming when you read between the lines.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

a bit torn on "memo from turner"... like, ry cooder's stuff is just filthy and maybe that alone warrants a place on the ol' ballot but... hm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbyrm9q_bvM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2wttYva1AQ

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 24 March 2012 22:39 (five years ago) Permalink

another thing I really liked about that Jagger interview was how candidly he broke down the 'what it's like on stage' question. AI really respect how much of a student of his own craft he is, and that it's no accident that he became "Mick Jagger". I mean, as Alfred said he pretty much invented the rock n roll frontman, and from that interview there's little doubt that he pretty much knew from the beginning what he was doing up there.

Also, when he talks about music, it's 100% clear to me why he and Keith work together so well. If they dabble in a certain style Keith knows how to play it, how to arrange it, Mick knows already how it's supposed to sound, and lyrically how to write it...might sound a bit soppy/misty eyed but I like to think that maybe when they write together that that's how they manifest their friendship now. They maybe can't BE friends the way they were in the old days, but those times might be like their own time-machine, where things are easy and they can communicate in a more familiar way.
McCartney said something similar about the few times he was able to write with John later on when things were not so great between them, that in those moments it was like nothing had changed.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:35 (five years ago) Permalink

another thing I really liked about that Jagger interview was how candidly he broke down the 'what it's like on stage' question.

That was a great part of the interview, and not one that I expected Jagger to seriously tackle. It's amazing to me that he can be something of a micromanager while simultaneously setting the pace for, and being the focal point of, the stage show.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd like to thank whomever posted that clip of "I Am Waiting"--I never really paid attention to that song. My new favorite deep cut from the "twee" period

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 24 March 2012 23:57 (five years ago) Permalink

Obv I need to read that interview. That timeisonourside.com site is pretty sweet too, once you get past the horrible design and navigation. All the Tracktalk sections are in Section 1, Database.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:00 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah the layout is awful, but the content is pretty interesting

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 00:08 (five years ago) Permalink

VOTED

*collapses in heap*

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm gonna need the rest of the week, listening to mono vinyl Out Of Our Heads right now, "The Last Time" sounds MASSIVE.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:48 (five years ago) Permalink

it was driving me mental, I had to just do it and be done with it, another week would have had me with another 50 more songs on the shortlist.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 01:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I ginned up an excuse to go out driving tonight so I could take Exile with me and howl along at top volume. I sound like Tallulah Bankhead now. Greatest karaoke album ever, especially "Sweet Virginia" -- "got to scrape the shit right off your SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooees"

also, "judge and jury walk out hand in hand" would be a funny title for the results thread, but I'll bet roger m already has titles in mind that have that beat

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:03 (five years ago) Permalink

especially "Sweet Virginia" -- "got to scrape the shit right off your SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooees"

this line is why SV made my ballot

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:08 (five years ago) Permalink

The latest round of remasters shifted my focus to their first three years...if I did this three years ago, my ballot would've been all of Let It Bleed and Sticky Fingers...now It's gonna be 1/2 pre-68. Feels weird...

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:13 (five years ago) Permalink

The Rolling Stones Now! is serious heat.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:23 (five years ago) Permalink

That timeisonourside.com site is pretty sweet too, once you get past the horrible design and navigation.

It's still in a 2001-era design.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I ended up with a lot of Sticky Fingers, and only a couple of Exile...but it's more because Exile's such a, I dunno, tapestry or something it feels weird picking out individual threads.

But this thread was crucial for me to revisit Let It Bleed, Beggars Banquet, and Goat's Head in particular, as well as stuff I'd never really looked at like Between the Buttons. I think my poll is a lot more well rounded with all the homework listening I've been doing, compared to my first, fairly myopic list of 20.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Poor Ian Stewart--didn't cut a good enough profile to get in, right? He's all over those early records and adds a lot.

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I love the credits for "Heaven":

http://www.timeisonourside.com/SOHeaven.html

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Stewart appears on 3 of my picks, according to wikipedia

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:31 (five years ago) Permalink

or about "Respectable"

It's important to be somewhat influenced by what's going on around you and on the Some Girls album, I think we definitely became more aggressive because of the punk thing. On this track, I was banging out three chords incredibly loud on the electric guitar, wich isn't always a wonderful idea but was great fun here. This is a punk meets Chuck Berry number. The lyric carries no fantastically deep message, but I think it might have had something to do with Bianca.
- Mick Jagger, 1993

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Mick had this one already to go. This was one of the first times we allowed him to join in on guitar. He's a really good rhythm player, man; but then, he's had a good teacher.

- Keith Richards, 1993

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 02:32 (five years ago) Permalink

voted

red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 March 2012 03:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Time capsule ...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNP-x94-SE

that's not my post, Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:39 (five years ago) Permalink

^ well that links to footage Robert Frank shot in NYC & LA to go along with Exile cover

that's not my post, Sunday, 25 March 2012 05:41 (five years ago) Permalink

man... i dunno if "worried about you" is gonna make my ballot, but I forgot how much it can grab me when it catches me right. A+ backing vox from keef; enjoy the lol Early Days of Video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MMgPbt9jhw

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 25 March 2012 06:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I may lose sleep tonight over leaving You Got The Silver and/or Happy off my ballot. I was so torn about a Keef song...and yet they both felt like songs for a longer ballot. 20 requires such mercenary decision making! :(

Sorry Keef.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 06:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I've always loved this quote about Stray Cat Blues being influenced by the Velvets. I feel like there is another quote about the Stones nicking something else from the VU & Nico but I can't find it...

I mean, even WE'VE been influenced by the Velvet Underground... I'll tell you exactly what we pinched from (Lou Reed) too. You know Stray Cat Blues? The whole sound and the way it's paced, we pinched from the very first Velvet Underground album. You know, the sound on Heroin. Honest to God, we did!
- Mick Jagger, 1977

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:02 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm having a run through It's Only Rock & Roll at the moment. Thoughts on this one? It seems to be regarded as a bit of a dud, if it gets regarded at all, but there're some nice cuts on here - title track, Time Waits For No-One and Luxury are all my kind of Stones, to varying degrees.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:08 (five years ago) Permalink

One of their worst.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:10 (five years ago) Permalink

B&B is my favorite of the Stones' mid seventies Anomie Trilogy but not by much.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:11 (five years ago) Permalink

I like If You Want To Be My Friend and Fingerprint File too. The album as a whole seems vaguely lifeless - I'd need to live with it a bit to be sure - but those are good songs.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 25 March 2012 15:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah It's Only Rock N Roll is not good, I have a hard time hanging with it. It always sounded like they didn't even want me to *listen* to it, let alone play on it themselves.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

I feel like there is another quote about the Stones nicking something else from the VU & Nico but I can't find it...

i mentioned upthread that "child of the moon" reminds me strongly of the first-album velvets (GREAT SONG, VOTE FOR IT NOW), but i don't know that there's any stones-on-record commentary supporting the connection

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Black and Blue at least has Fool To Cry, so not a total waste.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

It always sounded like they didn't even want me to *listen* to it, let alone play on it themselves.

Hahaha, that's so perfect.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

re IORnR: i half like both "time waits for no one" and "fingerprint file", but they're both a bit dismal and overlong

"fool to cry" is the only really great song on black and blue, i shed a few tears over cutting it, but "hand of fate" and "memory motel" are at least worth a listen

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

I think Dance Little Sister is my favorite off that album, but even that didn't go on my ballot. Title track is pretty good for a meathead rawk anthem, but is still a meathead rawk anthem.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

No one's mentioned this yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIt-nQ_qp1s

Probably not as good as Vashti Bunyan's hit, but it's on my ballot.

clemenza, Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

i am a huge fan of "hand of fate" fwiw tho i recognize it's a minor work

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 25 March 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Mick Taylor told Jim Lea of Slade that the title track of IORnR was Jagger/Richards attempt at the "Slade formula".

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 25 March 2012 18:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Needs more handclaps imo

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 25 March 2012 18:33 (five years ago) Permalink

xps Hand of Fate is a wonderful track. Don't know if I'd put it in my 20, but it'd be somewhere in my 40.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 25 March 2012 18:37 (five years ago) Permalink

"Hand of Fate" and "Crazy Mama" are two of my favorite Stones throwaways. The guitar sound on both is shit-hot.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

toss in "Fool to Cry" and "Memory Motel" and you've got half a good album.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:00 (five years ago) Permalink

xps Hand of Fate is a wonderful track.

yeah, i slighted it by saying only that it's "worth a listen". has been bouncing around my head for hours after one listen this morning. catchy tune, great riff and tone, good lyrics. main problems are that it's at least a minute too long, and i don't like the solos. that and there's a weirdly empty quality to the sound, loose and airless at the same time, that's initially off putting, but the swagger manages to cut through anyway. always makes me want to hear what they'd have done with it circa exile.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I often wish Wayne Perkins had joined the band instead of Woody ("Worried About You"). What tone!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I can barely put into words how I feel about this song, but know that I love it more than any other Stones track (and probably more than most songs I've ever heard by anyone). Plz consider giving it points on your ballots!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKNSm8_CTOY

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:40 (five years ago) Permalink

1st cut gets me down to 130 songs

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

damn, feel for u, WMC. mine was around 70s, then when up to 90 on a second pass. getting it down past 40 was a kind of hell, like using a knife to select your favorite fingers.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:03 (five years ago) Permalink

re "she smiled sweetly": it's not one of my favorites, but i think it'll do just fine, JF, what with the massive wes anderson boost and all. "ruby tuesday" seems like the perfected version, and i cut that, too.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:13 (five years ago) Permalink

I always forget it was in The Royal Tenenbaums (I've only seen that one time, back when it was in theaters).

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I would like to take this opportunity to remind you all to vote early and often for Have You Seen Your Mother Baby

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm with whoever said upthread that it's nearly impossible to pick tracks from BtB and Aftermath (my faves on most days, too) on account of the fact that the songs come off better in their natural environment. but "Back Street Girl" **cking slays me no matter where or when
and on the most hated note "my girl" is the worst thing they ever recorded

epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 25 March 2012 20:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm leaning in the direction of obnoxiousness instead of bad songwriting on the most-hated ballot.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Fair, but I voted a poor cover version. Not saying which song, but UB40's version was better.

Mark G, Sunday, 25 March 2012 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Ballot ready, but I'm going to ponder it for a couple of days before I send it.

This is the biggest discography by far for the single-artist polls, right? I wouldn't be surprised to see #1 votes as far down as the #150-200 range, if the ballot count goes over 50.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:33 (five years ago) Permalink

do you really think "Winning Ugly" will get that many #1 votes?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

This is the biggest discography by far for the single-artist polls, right?

Naw, James Brown's was/is way huger. Problem was, said huge discography seemed to intimidate people into not voting.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 25 March 2012 22:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm not convinced about JB vs RS! I'd bet a shiny dollar that more RS songs will get votes than JB songs did, but that would only work if the number of ballots were the same for both polls. The Stones song list is 450+.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:08 (five years ago) Permalink

There are something like 1200 songs listed here for Prince: http://www.princevault.com/index.php/A-Z_song_list

smash williams, Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know if it's possible to accurately calculate James Brown's song list, given live versions and multipart singles. But, at the very least, he matched the Stones year-for-year, album-for-album, and started a good 5+ years before them.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:21 (five years ago) Permalink

ok, I'm full of beans

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Sunday, 25 March 2012 23:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I'd really like to see everyone's first draft lists after posting our 20, but that would probably get unwieldy real fast

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Child of the Moon is another revelation to me...it would have made such a better album closer than Salt of the Earth, which is such a dud

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:27 (five years ago) Permalink

Salt of the Earth is a wonderfully insincere closer, just what the album needs. If anything's wrong with it it's that it's too obvious in making things explicit.

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:28 (five years ago) Permalink

It didn't feel insincere when they played it at the Concert for 9/11 or whatever...is it really tongue in cheek? sorry to sound naive!

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Salt of the Earth is the fucking great.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:33 (five years ago) Permalink

(no the)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:33 (five years ago) Permalink

never heard "salt of the earth" as ironic.

Child of the Moon is another revelation to me

yes! love it so much & felt like i was the only one.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:34 (five years ago) Permalink

...but i guess i'm wrong abt "salt". i dunno if it's precisely insincere, but it's definitely quite cynical.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:39 (five years ago) Permalink

we love you is insincere

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

no irony...and it's got nothing to do with Jagger changing one key verse (guess which...?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZGPcRyyvc0

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:47 (five years ago) Permalink

If you hear Salt of the Earth as insincere then to me it just means your jadedness is maybe getting out of hand, idk

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:50 (five years ago) Permalink

in fact it sounds so strange

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:51 (five years ago) Permalink

but that jaded faded junkie nurse, oh what pleasant company!

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:51 (five years ago) Permalink

"salt of the earth" both is and is not insincere, and that's where it gets its power imo. it takes a lot of positions all at once, both occupying and eviscerating the "let them eat cake" position while also expressing both compassion and contempt for the masses. if it helps, bear in mind that e.g. many tea partiers are salt-of-the-earth types.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 01:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I think that's right, & that you can hear the Jagger / Keef songwriting dynamic at work in that (though I should read up to see if that's right)

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

OK, I can hear that, the both positions at once, but I still hate it!

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:03 (five years ago) Permalink

"salt of the earth" both is and is not insincere, and that's where it gets its power imo. it takes a lot of positions all at once, both occupying and eviscerating the "let them eat cake" position while also expressing both compassion and contempt for the masses.

Yes. I'd argue that this has been Jagger's power from the beginning.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:04 (five years ago) Permalink

before Bowie and Ferry he was the first to conflate notions of "irony" and "sincerity"

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I'll take that, roger

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:05 (five years ago) Permalink

we love you is insincere

― Iago Galdston, Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:40 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

maybe, but it is great and it is on my first draft of 20.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:06 (five years ago) Permalink

we love you is insincere
― Iago Galdston, Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:40 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark

maybe, but it is great and it is on my first draft of 20.
― Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Sunday, March 25, 2012 10:06 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I meant that as a compliment! It's one of the great FU songs, and is in my top 20 too

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:11 (five years ago) Permalink

still working through my own ballot, somewhat surprised. going in i would have expected to rate "rocks off" over "tumbling dice" but it's not workin' out that way. and was certain that "let it loose," which I love dearly, would rate over "shine a light." still will i think but dear lord the leadwork in "shine a light" is really something else.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:18 (five years ago) Permalink

oic (xp)

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm up to Beggar's Banquet now

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:20 (five years ago) Permalink

"we love you" is almost certainly getting one of my satanic majesties-era slots. 9 year old me would go for "dandelion" or "she's a rainbow" or "2000 man" for the opening lick alone but damn. for your consideration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6D3jE4A24o

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 02:32 (five years ago) Permalink

2000 Man is fab, 2nd best on the album after the mighty Citadel

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:40 (five years ago) Permalink

both likely gonna be on mine

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Vegas has installed Gimme Shelter as the favorite, at 5 to 1.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 March 2012 02:57 (five years ago) Permalink

"salt of the earth" both is and is not insincere, and that's where it gets its power imo. it takes a lot of positions all at once, both occupying and eviscerating the "let them eat cake" position while also expressing both compassion and contempt for the masses. if it helps, bear in mind that e.g. many tea partiers are salt-of-the-earth types.

― all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:56 PM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

[...]

before Bowie and Ferry he was the first to conflate notions of "irony" and "sincerity"

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:05 PM (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, this read makes the most sense to me, because it doesn't come across anywhere near so black-hearted as it would if you figured the whole thing was a pisstake, but that "when i look into the faceless crowd" refrain does put a big kink in the apparent sincerity of the rest. like the compassion (or attempted compassion) is in earnest, but mick can't help admitting that he's looking down from above. i like the honesty of this.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:04 (five years ago) Permalink

dagmn, "we love you" is so fucking great! killed me to cut it, but i did. agree that it's one of their very best SM-era tracks. like "child of the moon", it's probably gonna get screwed due to not appearing on any of the studio albums or hot rocks.

also:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6o2ZpHZWos

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:12 (five years ago) Permalink

cut down to 25. have somehow managed to let "saint of me" hang around despite having already jettisoned "paint it, black." am i a disgusting savage y/n?

ps worth noting that keef does not appear on "saint of me" but me'shell ndegéocello does.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:23 (five years ago) Permalink

would probably vote for "love is strong" as well tbh if it weren't always bookended for me with "wicked as it seems"

TS: waddy wachtel's guitar vs mick jagger's harp

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:24 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't, and couldn't, get down with Saint of Me

I dunno why, it just doesn't do it for me

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:25 (five years ago) Permalink

me neither

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:32 (five years ago) Permalink

riff rules, charlie rules, middle eight is balls

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:34 (five years ago) Permalink

again, for your consideration:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2h3TlHcLY0

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 03:49 (five years ago) Permalink

"we love you" is almost certainly getting one of my satanic majesties-era slots. 9 year old me would go for "dandelion" or "she's a rainbow" or "2000 man" for the opening lick alone but damn.

It made my ballot easily. Love the piano riff, and especially love Jagger's angry vocal (and Charlie's angry drums) on the middle eight.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Everyone needs to vote for You Got The Silver!!!!!!

...so that I don't flagellate myself for having to cut it.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:45 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, no, sorry roger - it's not even on my short list [ducks out]

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:06 (five years ago) Permalink

there is too much stones, too much stones, yeah

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:07 (five years ago) Permalink

[ducks out again]

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't see how it's possible to have anything on this poll from after 1972.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I will have at least one track from 1973. Alfred will have no tracks before 1973.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:14 (five years ago) Permalink

ha!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I didn't think about timeline when I was working on my ballot (promise!), just looked at it afterwards and realized that the cutoff year was surprisingly early. Felt a little guilty, not guilty enough to make changes (yet).

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:23 (five years ago) Permalink

My latest is 1978

I just couldn't can't do anything later, and I did try to devote a little bit of listening time to the later catalog stuff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I was pretty conscious of the timeline, but still had a hard time coming up with something after 1973. "Shattered" and "One Hit" were late cuts, though.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:27 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm trying to fit in some guilty pleasure later singles. i think having only 20 spots on ballots makes the poll results consolidate more firmly on the peak period of long-running artists, though, for better or worse (for worse imo).

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:28 (five years ago) Permalink

The whole "Some Girls" album is a huge weakness of mine, I had 2 picks off that album, very nearly 3.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I love "Waiting on a Friend" as much as any sixties ballad.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:31 (five years ago) Permalink

Although I experienced the Stones later than what Rob Sheffied has called the Mall Rat Years (1978-1983), that's how I most fondly remember them.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I included "One Hit," but nothing later than that.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Waiting on a Friend is pretty great.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:37 (five years ago) Permalink

my real intro to the stones was my parents' copy of hot rocks, which i became seriously obsessed with around age 12, followed by my mom's purchase of tattoo you when i was 14. i did then and still love do that album. also have a lot of affection for the funky slinky side of the late 70s/early 80s stones: "miss you", "shattered", "emotional rescue", "slave". all of those songs probably should have made my ballot, but most didn't.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Some Girls isn't as good as I'd hoped. It's like they tried to remake Exile, only this time commercial, and missed what was good in the first place.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

god i will be so pissed if "Miss You" gets a raw deal in the final results because of the nothing-after-Exile crowd

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

tattoo you tracks that made my first cut:

Hang Fire
Little T & A
Neighbors
No Use In Crying
Slave
Start Me Up
Waiting On A Friend
Worried About You

"no use in crying" and "little t&a" were the hardest for me to deny

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

no "Heaven"!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:48 (five years ago) Permalink

I've always been a baby duckling with music, imprinting on whatever's first. In this case, Hot Rocks and More Hot Rocks at 14, then Now! and Beggar's Banquet a year later.

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Miss You is amazing, but it's the exception here.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:49 (five years ago) Permalink

I guess I do need to vote if anything after 72 is in danger? wtf people?!

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I had a couple of compilation cassettes when I was in early high school. One was Through The Past Darkly, and I think I had England's Newest Hit Makers, and I listen to those two alot. Especially ENHM, I loved the super-old garagey sound of those early covers. I think that kind of informed the sound I wanted from them, so I have a hard time with the cleanness of the later stuff. And stuff like Start Me Up, it just sounds like Superbowls and stadiums to me. There's sort of a, I dunno, smaller feel to the old stuff. That's not the right word, but it'll do.

Bigger Bang was as close as I've come to 'enjoying' their newer stuff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:52 (five years ago) Permalink

you were thinking about not voting? wtf at u!
xp

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Miss You is outstanding.

WASSAMATTAWITCHOOBOY

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

Lurkers might be stuffing out on Bridges to Babylon for all we know

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:53 (five years ago) Permalink

There was a strong lurker demographic for Bowie -- I hope they're out in strength for this one!

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:54 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't have the energy to get all ~involved~ but I will submit a ballot because clearly "She's So Cold" needs me.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I love "Hang Fire", thinking of voting for it. For the longest time I didn't know the name of the song, only knew it from the radio, & had convinced myself that it was "Angie", so when I sang the song around the house I sang the chorus as a series of howled "Angieeeeeeee"s, which I think I still prefer to the real song.

Euler, Monday, 26 March 2012 16:56 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't have the energy to get all ~involved~ but I will submit a ballot because clearly "She's So Cold" needs me.

srsly

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:58 (five years ago) Permalink

That song is SO FUN to dance to.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

"She's So Cold" was one of my very last cuts!

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 16:59 (five years ago) Permalink

the guy singing with his lady friend at 2:00 exactly looks like alfred!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rf7Z-TBeTI&feature=related

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:04 (five years ago) Permalink

She's So Cold is fun, I wouldn't be sad if it made it. I didn't vote for it, but vote away lurkers!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

It's not that the stuff after Exile is bad, lots of it is great. But for me at least, the Rolling Stones from 68 to 72 is the best music ever made by anyone. So naturally my top 20 is going to focus heavily on that period.

Here's a question (apologies if this has been covered upthread. What is the super immortal megaclassic Stones song that you're most sick of, and won't be on your ballot? For me it's Honky Tonk Women.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Possibly Brown Sugar. Certainly Satisfaction.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Honky Tonk Women, Ruby Tuesday.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

I can't quit on Brown Sugar, Keyes' sax has its hooks in me.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

*Keys

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

sick of: Honky Tonk Women, Satisfaction, Street Fighting Man, Wild Horses, Get Off of My Cloud

super immortal megaclassic Stones songs I can't believe I didn't vote for: The Last Time, Let's Spend the Night Together, You Can’t Always Get What You Want, Have You Seen Your Mother Baby...

gospodin simmel, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I just came her to say that this title has had me singing Mother's Little Helper over and over again in my head since late last week. It's driving me nuts. Thanks a lot, RM! ;)

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

HERE

dammit

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

the guy singing with his lady friend at 2:00 exactly looks like alfred!!

lol a bit! You've got a good eye.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:24 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought about that too, the song you're most sick of. Ten at least, led by "Satisfaction" and "Paint It Black." I'm pretty sure I loved every one of them when I was younger.

clemenza, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:26 (five years ago) Permalink

My favorite thing about Wild Horses, aside from straight up loving the song, is imitiating Mick's delivery of the title line

Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild Hawwwwwwsssseeeesssssss

He's very sibilant, it makes me laugh

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

;_; that everyone is sick of Satisfaction.

I've tried to get sick of it! I can't!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:28 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm actually finding it really hard to think of songs for my most hated ballot. there are tons of big hits i'm a little blase about but only in relation to other Stones hits, and of course a lot of treading water, but very little i outright dislike, even of the fallow periods.

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm pretty sick of "Mixed Emotions."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:29 (five years ago) Permalink

oh i love that one

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I kind of hate Emotional Rescue. And Under My Thumb.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Nono, Under My Thumb will be getting voted for, even if I end up leaving off all the other classics

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:31 (five years ago) Permalink

lol I was kidding – I don't hear "Mixed Emotions" enough

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm definitely tired of "Satisfaction," but I was never all that nutso about the song in the first place. I used to think I was sick of "Miss You," but then some friends of mine came around at twelve with some Puerto Rican girls that, evidently, were just dying to meet me. They brought a case of wine and we messed and fooled around, you know, like we used to.

we can be gyros just for one day (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

"Emotional Rescue" is my least favorite single for sure, despite loving the album to bits. "Undercover of the Night" is pretty damn cynical and makes a good case for the post-'72 naysayers.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

i will probably be the only voter for "love is strong," won't i

internet somebody (some dude), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I haven't revisited Undercover of the Night on my listen-through yet, but I'll be amazed if it doesn't sail way up my ballot.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:35 (five years ago) Permalink

And stuff like Start Me Up, it just sounds like Superbowls and stadiums to me. There's sort of a, I dunno, smaller feel to the old stuff. That's not the right word, but it'll do.

it does sound that way at this point, yeah. it didn't then, at least not to me, and so i still dig it, despite the yucky associations. did cut it early and without regret tho.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:39 (five years ago) Permalink

have never grown tired of "satisfaction" or "paint it black". "you can't always get what you want", however, has wilted considerably.

and, yeah, "she's so cold" is great. the best stuff off black and blue, some girls, emotional rescue, tattoo you and undercover would make a hell of a compilation.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:43 (five years ago) Permalink

The totally bazonkers International Harvester version of "Satisfaction" saved it for me -- otherwise, that.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 17:50 (five years ago) Permalink

listened to aftermath this morning. might vote for every song on there.

tylerw, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Eight post-'72 tracks on my ballot and only three pre-Beggars Banquet. Not that I don't love early Stones too!

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 26 March 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

The one Tattoo You track i did keep was "Slave", as I think I mentioned earlier. I also kept "Summer Romance" off Emotional Rescue, mostly cuz i love the fucked-up punk rock outtake version I posted upthread, easily the silliest and most perverse choice on my ballot. Together those two songs suggest something to me...

Duderock Essentials #19: The "I'm Gonna Leave You, Woman" / "You Don't Own Me, Woman" Song.

The children of "Milkcow Blues", I suppose. A lot of bands hit this note occasionally (see every emo and frat rock band ever to exist), but the Stones are kind of unique in having devoted seemingly half their career to it. I think of these as permission-granting songs, as they seem constructed to draw out and validate male sexual angst, feelings of wrath and/or powerlessness. Such songs encourage fantasies of straying, even the corresponding action only extends to getting drunk with the boys and talking shit. They also give guys in relationships a bonding point with the recently dumped and the perpetually unhitched. At their worst, they're "that bitch" songs. At their best, well, they're still "that bitch" songs, but, uh, good ones.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

make that "Such songs encourage fantasies of straying, even if the corresponding action only extends to..."

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Tired of, easily cut: "Honky Tonk Women" and especially "Sympathy for the Devil"

any major prude will tell you (WmC), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Hohoho, 'Petrol Blues' - what the hell is this track?!

Ismael Klata, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:31 (five years ago) Permalink

I'll never tire of Honky Tonk Women, Brown Sugar, or Jumpin' Jack Flash...on the other hand, I can't listen to Sympathy for the Devil, just too played out.

Iago Galdston, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Sent it in. My oldest song was from 1966 (and the last song I cut from my top 20 was 1964); the newest was finished in 2010 (so you can guess what that was). There's more godawful crap after Mick Taylor quit, but the highlights are still very damn high. Looking forward to the results.

Three Word Username, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Not that anyone cared, but I had the wrong band, same family -- it's this one!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SOBAaVmjtU&feature=related

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:37 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought it was going to be easy to make an initial list, and it was until I started listening to the albums again. Now I have 76 tracks to whittle down, 43 from the 60s, the rest from 1970-78. I'm sure I could add a few post-Some Girls tracks but there's no way they'll make my top 20.

Brad C., Tuesday, 27 March 2012 02:22 (five years ago) Permalink

listened to aftermath this morning. might vote for every song on there.

― tylerw, Monday, March 26, 2012 10:51 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

haha, I listened to it yesterday and had almost the exact opposite reaction, I know it's considered an unfuckwithable classic but it seemed weak to me and the misogyny is unbearable.

that said OF COURSE I'm voting "Paint It, Black", and I think "I Am Waiting" might make the cut as well.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 03:16 (five years ago) Permalink

btw what's the record for ballots anyway?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 04:26 (five years ago) Permalink

I think the Bowie poll beat the Pavement one, but I forget the numbers

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 05:18 (five years ago) Permalink

Bowie got 80.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 05:43 (five years ago) Permalink

The hardest one to cut for me was "The Lantern", but I only love that song in the original stereo mix and I have to play with the stereo: right channel only, so it's just Mick and Keith, through the verses and full stereo only on the instrumental bridge. It turns from a bluesy honkytonk throwaway into something super creepy and awesome. Try it some time! (NB: I can't find that old stereo mix online.)

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 08:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I think all the SatMaj tracks made my final ballot (yes, even that one)

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 09:03 (five years ago) Permalink

i've finalised my top 20, but have not yet ordered them. i didn't really have much of a shortlist as i tried to be very particular and precise about which tracks made it so far as the drawing board, so just had to cull a couple in the end. pretty happy with the songs i came up with, though a couple of albums which i really enjoy either have very minimal representation or don't get a nod at all. hard to really strike a great deal of balance when the peaks of Beggar's through Exile are so incredibly high.

charlie h, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 10:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Sent!

i will probably be the only voter for "love is strong," won't i

― internet somebody (some dude), Monday, March 26, 2012 12:35 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

No.

Paul Smon (La Lechera), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:40 (five years ago) Permalink

so I'm getting the impression that I should own Satanic Majesties....

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:42 (five years ago) Permalink

the misogyny is unbearable
ha, i did take note of this, and it is indeed filthy with woman-loathing, but i thought that aspect was, ummm, revealing in some interesting way? i'm sure someone has written a boring thesis on it.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

i might vote for this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiydOyjFkPM
misogyny-free zone!

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:45 (five years ago) Permalink

SO CONFUSING

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flowers_%28The_Rolling_Stones_album%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones,_Now!

I think their US/UK track shufflings are even worse than the Beatles records.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 21:56 (five years ago) Permalink

garg, wth?

anyway, there is a page for that album. you just can't link to it.

...

oh, it's the comma. this works:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_Now!

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:00 (five years ago) Permalink

FUCK THE WORLD

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:01 (five years ago) Permalink

Rolling Stones early releases definitely as confusing/wtf as the AC/DC shuffles.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:03 (five years ago) Permalink

The vote splitting (if any) in the album poll will be interesting.

Whiney Houson (WmC), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Many xposts, but in defense of Sympathy for the Devil it has one of their greatest-ever grooves. Which is saying something, since groove is pretty much their greatest weapon. Or at least their least appreciated/articulated.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:28 (five years ago) Permalink

wait are unranked ballots not an option? dear lord.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

percussion on Sympathy is the thing that keeps me coming back

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:35 (five years ago) Permalink

wait are unranked ballots not an option? dear lord.

yeah, fucking brutal

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Plus, lyrics that they had taken time over and pointed towards an idea.

Didn't do much of that post 1974 or so..

Mark G, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:37 (five years ago) Permalink

what's the point of unranked ballots?

BUY THE TICKET, TAKE THE RIDE, MOTHERFUCKERS.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:38 (five years ago) Permalink

you got to roll me the tumblin' 20-sided dice

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:38 (five years ago) Permalink

i never for even a moment considered cutting sympathy for the devil. i may be many things, but i am not so crazy as hat.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:38 (five years ago) Permalink

lol "crazy as hat"

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:38 (five years ago) Permalink

crazy asshat

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:39 (five years ago) Permalink

:/

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:40 (five years ago) Permalink

percussion on Sympathy is the thing that keeps me coming back

^ this...erm, even though I cut it. But I was completely flummoxed as to how Charlie did it until I saw this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H3QcpvcIrY

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:43 (five years ago) Permalink

YOU CUT IT?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:44 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah don't think i'll be able to cut that one. the guitar solo! heard it a bajillion times and i still snap to attention when it kicks in.

tylerw, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:49 (five years ago) Permalink

xp Yeah, I couldn't decide between the studio version or the Ya-Yas version. In the end, I cut both, and now no one has any glue to glue with.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:53 (five years ago) Permalink

omg shirtless Mick

imma need a moment brb

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:55 (five years ago) Permalink

I really love that RNRC version, how it's SO percussion, and Keef's guitar's a little more languid.

RULES

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:56 (five years ago) Permalink

*chicken dances furiously*

xpost

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:03 (five years ago) Permalink

they all look so blazed, lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:04 (five years ago) Permalink

They didn't go on until 1 or 2 in the morning. To keep the audience entertained (and awake), the Who put seat covers on their heads and wackiness ensued.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:16 (five years ago) Permalink

I haven't watched it in forever, I might need to go get it.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:17 (five years ago) Permalink

The version of "street fighting man" on the London Singles collection is so brutal, so violent. I love jimmy miller; the percussion on his stuff is always dope.

neutral sequence for flute (blank), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:33 (five years ago) Permalink

otm I love that version

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:36 (five years ago) Permalink

They didn't go on until 1 or 2 in the morning. To keep the audience entertained (and awake), the Who put seat covers on their heads and wackiness ensued.
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:16 PM (24 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Stones didn't want to go on at the RnR Circus after they witnessed this, and really, can you blame them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1ku7QNRudg

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:43 (five years ago) Permalink

Hope "No Expectations" gets some votes. Loved how it was used in Wild Palms (split up over two clips--13:30 in the first one, then continues on in the second).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSZUT6g8TwY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZKXKdHuxJg

clemenza, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:45 (five years ago) Permalink

That's why the film stayed in the can for 27 years. The Stones were dissatisfied with their performance, plus, Brian was in awful shape. The Who had just come off a few months in the US but couldn't get arrested in the UK ("Dogs" and "Magic Bus" stiffed, and they were back to playing the Marquee). Their performance at the Circus was met with stunned disbelief; none of their contemporaries expected anything like it.

xp

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 23:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Thanks Tarfumes, that's what I had heard.
Oh yes, Clemenza, No Expectations is my one vote from Beggars Banquet...one of my favorites of theirs and Brian Jones' final great performance in the group (?). Brian Jones was apparently a thoroughly evil person but I am in thrall of his musicianship always

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:04 (five years ago) Permalink

"No Expectations" made my top 10, easy. Watching Brian play it on the Circus is heartbreaking, though; he's shaking like a leaf.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:08 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't know why I have such a soft spot for Jones. I find Keith's post-mortem trashing of him to this day really distasteful. (And I think the circumstances of his death are truly sketchy!)

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:14 (five years ago) Permalink

which is why Jagger's small tribute is touching (especially the source):

JAGGER: Isn’t “No Expectations” on that record?

WENNER:It’s got that wonderful steel guitar part.

JAGGER: That’s Brian playing. We were sitting around in a circle on the floor, singing and playing, recording with open mikes. That was the last time I remember Brian really being totally involved in something that was really worth doing. He was there with everyone else. It’s funny how you remember – but that was the last moment I remember him doing that, because he had just lost interest in everything.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Sent -- what a relief.

"No Expectations" is in my top ten too.

I'm looking forward to seeing the Most Hated results...

Brad C., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:18 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah that's a nice quote

xp

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:22 (five years ago) Permalink

There's a little bit of this in all Mount Rushmore-level rock stars, but Jagger especially: "Isn’t 'No Expectations' on that record?"

"That record"--Beggars Banquet.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:25 (five years ago) Permalink

I've often wondered if that's an act, like when one of the Beatles says, "what album was that on?" please.....

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:28 (five years ago) Permalink

This is a story, a very special story.
It's about Brian Jones, one of the Rolling Stones.

Where were you when the stars went out?
Where were you when they started to shout?
I saw you alone by the pool,
and all your friends called you a fool.
Godstar, Godstar. Godstar, Godstar. Godstar, Godstar. God.......star.

And you were so beautiful, you were so very special,
I wish I was with you now, I wish I could save you somehow.

Godstar, Godstar. Godstar, Godstar. Godstar, Godstar. God.......star.
(Echoing chorus): Brian, Brian, Brian.
Brian, Brian, Brian.
Godstar, Godstar. Godstar, Godstar. Godstar, Godstar. God.......star.

Where were all your friends that night
as you switched off the final light?
I saw your body in the water
Like a lamb going to the slaughter

And where were all of your laughing friends?
Where were they at the very end?
They started to steal your glory
They never even told your story

www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv2Taq1PSbg

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:28 (five years ago) Permalink

Dylan also pulled off that art of pretend forgetfulness...until Chronicles, in which he proved he remembered everything.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I like that Psychic TV song, never heard of them--thanks NAGL

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:35 (five years ago) Permalink

don't have my ballot at hand, but i think i voted for "no expectations". at least i hope i did...

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:46 (five years ago) Permalink

it made my list, so great.

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:49 (five years ago) Permalink

I keep thinking about Rolling Stones music used well in non-Scorsese films: opening credits of Coming Home (2:45).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOpwx-XIxWE

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:01 (five years ago) Permalink

I was surprised by my inability to cut No Expectations, expect it'll make my final cull

Euler, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:02 (five years ago) Permalink

the existence of "no expectations" is why i was so comfortable cutting stuff like "sway" and "winter", tbh

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:18 (five years ago) Permalink

No Expectations got a vote

how can you even cut Sway AND Winter, christ you are the Genghis Khan of voting

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:20 (five years ago) Permalink

i am the ghenghis khan of brussels sprouts, too, so so many discarded buds

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:23 (five years ago) Permalink

they deserve it, jerks

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 01:24 (five years ago) Permalink

btw since my ballot is going to make sick monkey love to Mick Taylor and slight the Woodie Years, let me just say that Ron Wood's pedal steel playing on "the worst" absolutely makes the track. takes a special kind of player to deliver the goods like that while never chafing in the role of Keef's Valet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5BQ3cBRfxw

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 04:37 (five years ago) Permalink

ronnie is a good bloke

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 04:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Don't get to see much of Taylor onstage, this vid's just an overdub but still, the footage is p cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIpqiEK8wfw

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 04:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I was so close to including this in my ballot. Fuckin love Dead Flowers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTjni_t3MgY

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:01 (five years ago) Permalink

ooh and really good Taylor in that Dead Flowers vid

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:02 (five years ago) Permalink

still p sure the live "stray cat blues" from this era (as captured on Ya-Ya's) is about the sleaziest thing ever.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:03 (five years ago) Permalink

fuuuuck that dead flowers vid. like i didn't love the taylorstones enough already.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:06 (five years ago) Permalink

One day I would like to do a poll of Mick Jagger's stage outfits.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:07 (five years ago) Permalink

omg I just found that whole Marquee Club show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Gf-CXBCfhY

I can't think of a better way to kill half an hour

<3
<3

I'm so in love with them

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:08 (five years ago) Permalink

this is not helping me get over my Mick Jagger crush at all

I thought I was cured!
But I'm not! I'm so not.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:09 (five years ago) Permalink

oh shit

I Got The Blues

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:12 (five years ago) Permalink

*ahem*

don't mean to introod, but WOO YAH i didn't forget "no expectations"!!!

hooray me

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:19 (five years ago) Permalink

you still cut Sway though

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:20 (five years ago) Permalink

you're just going to have to live with the fact that you cut their greatest song
it will haunt you

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:27 (five years ago) Permalink

or, well maybe their 21st ;)

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:33 (five years ago) Permalink

hmph

in other news, "Bitch" on that Hyde Park youtube is the balls, seriously.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Bill Wyman is so weird on stage.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:37 (five years ago) Permalink

or in general

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:37 (five years ago) Permalink

just started watching that marquee club vid you posted. "live with me" is great!

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:42 (five years ago) Permalink

SO GOOD

It sort of feels like Mick's flagging when they start 'Satisfaction' and then ZOOM! he's got a whole new gear for the last 2 and a half songs.

the little dance him and Bobby do together during Brown Sugar is A+

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:44 (five years ago) Permalink

"dead flowers" is such a beautiful song, it's only the wierd, affected american "country" accent he was putting on circa let it bleed that keeps me at a distance

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:46 (five years ago) Permalink

as a american

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:47 (five years ago) Permalink

i dunno, maybe that's how we sound to yawl

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah that was what stopped me from voting Far Away Eyes. I love the song soooooo much, but I can't defend the drawl, lol.

Dead Flowers too.

They do such GREAT interpretations of country, stylistically, and it's not that the drawl is bad it's just hard to convince someone who's never heard the song that it's really okay.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:49 (five years ago) Permalink

well okay it is bad

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:50 (five years ago) Permalink

love this version. check out Mick giving Keith lyric reminders in that last chorus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k64CrBxCAtI

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Keith's harmonies on that were A+

I love him.

I'm kinda mad at myself for not voting for Dead Flowers now. WHOSE DUMB IDEA WAS IT TO ONLY VOTE FOR 20 SONGS.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:56 (five years ago) Permalink

saxophone mullet keeps fucking me up. not the playing, which is fine, just the hair.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:58 (five years ago) Permalink

WHOSE DUMB IDEA WAS IT TO ONLY VOTE FOR 20 SONGS.

yeah, for this poll, just 20 songs seems criminal. would have been much satisfied w 40. my top 40 is unfwable.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:59 (five years ago) Permalink

saxophone mullet = Bobby Keys = bow down

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:02 (five years ago) Permalink

I didn't know this, as if he needed to be awesomer (from Keys wikipedia entry) Other recordings made by Keys was the baritone saxophone on Elvis Presley's "Return to Sender", and on John Lennon's first American solo #1 single hit (and the only US #1 in Lennon's lifetime) "Whatever Gets You thru the Night".

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:03 (five years ago) Permalink

xp lol, i shoulda guessed. know his playing, but not his growth.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:04 (five years ago) Permalink

could you ask for a better 'selective discography'?

The Rolling Stones: Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main St., Goats Head Soup, Emotional Rescue, Stripped
Joe Cocker: Mad Dogs and Englishmen
George Harrison: All Things Must Pass
John Lennon: Some Time in New York City, Walls and Bridges, Rock 'n' Roll
Keith Richards: Talk Is Cheap, Live at the Hollywood Palladium
Ringo Starr: Ringo, Goodnight Vienna
Ronnie Wood: 1234, Gimme Some Neck, Mahoney's Last Stand
B.B. King: B. B. King in London
Barbra Streisand: Barbra Joan Streisand
Carly Simon: No Secrets, Hotcakes
Chuck Berry: Hail! Hail! Rock 'n' Roll
Delaney, Bonnie & Friends: On Tour with Eric Clapton
Donovan: Cosmic Wheels
Dr. John: The Sun, Moon & Herbs
Eric Clapton: Eric Clapton
Faces: Long Player
Harry Nilsson: Nilsson Schmilsson, Son of Schmilsson, Pussy Cats, Duit on Mon Dei
Warren Zevon: Warren Zevon
Humble Pie: Rock On
Joe Ely: Lord of the Highway
John Hiatt: Beneath This Gruff Exterior
Kate & Anna McGarrigle: Kate & Anna McGarrigle
Keith Moon: Two Sides of the Moon
Leo Sayer: Endless Flight
Lynyrd Skynyrd: Second Helping
John Lennon and Paul McCartney: A Toot and a Snore in '74
John Lennon: Whatever Gets You thru the Night
Marvin Gaye: Let's Get It On (deluxe edition)
Sheryl Crow: The Globe Sessions
Yoko Ono: Fly
Jim Carroll: Catholic Boy

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:04 (five years ago) Permalink

"midnight rambler" guitar solo is BADASS, but whoever's in charge of video editing here needs to be taken out back behind the shed and instructed in the proper way to be

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Jim Carroll: Catholic Boy

you could not ask for a better "selective selective discography"

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:07 (five years ago) Permalink

but HOLY FUCK, bow down, etc.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:08 (five years ago) Permalink

agreed about the video editing. they do it a couple of times during key awesome jamouts and it's like raaagggh wtf are you doing

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:08 (five years ago) Permalink

Doesn't Start Me Up automatically place on the most hated list? I was in high school when it came out. It was a defining song - if you loved it, you couldn't be a real Stones fan. For years we laughed when the DJ said he was going to play some classic Stones and put on Start Me Up. Too plastic and shiny. The riff was an cheap high when we knew they were capable of Brown Sugar. And the lyrics. After absorbing the murk of Live With Me, Shattered and Stray Cat Blues, Start Me Up just seemed like a joke. Guess I better send in my hated songs ballot.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:09 (five years ago) Permalink

i was 14 & jr. high, thus not properly schooled in the ways of the HS world. i dug "start me up" and still feel a faded echo of the initial attraction, despite the shinyness, despite years of hideous flogging abuse by bill gates and his corpse buddies.

plus VG otm, that hyde park "bitch" fucking RIPS

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:21 (five years ago) Permalink

<3<3<3 "brown CHOOGAH"

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:22 (five years ago) Permalink

mick fucking taylor, ftr

that may be the best version of "brown sugar" i've ever heard

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 06:25 (five years ago) Permalink

"Dead Flowers" was high on my ballot. Overall, Sticky Fingers is my least favourite of the Hopkins/Taylor four-album run, but it produced two of my top five. (The other being the most obvious one.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:13 (five years ago) Permalink

Will rep for Sister Morphine and Moonlight Mile

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:21 (five years ago) Permalink

Sticky Fingers is not among my favorites but Brown Sugar and Moonlight Mile are the biggest songs ever

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Contenderizer had a good post last night on the comedy-poll thread delineating the difference between Taxi Driver and Tarantino's films in terms of comedy and tone. (I was being a little disingenuous when I asked where the line should be drawn; I think I was trying to force someone to articulate clearly the difference.) I'd draw the same distinction between "Far Away Eyes" and "Dead Flowers." "Far Away Eyes" is just straight laughs for me--it's a nice song, and I like it, but its appeal begins and ends with the broad parody. Jagger slips into the same voice on "Dead Flowers" (less broad, which is one advantage), but I consider it a much darker, more vivid song. Even though I know that "I'll be in my basement room/with a needle and a spoon/and another girl to the pain away" is, in itself, a bit of a caricature of the Rolling Stones' image circa 1971, the line, and the whole song, actually does encapsulate why they seemed so mysterious and grown-up to me when I discovered them around that time.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Agreed. Jagger's injection of humor into "Dead Flowers" makes it more moving

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 11:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Jagger may have been taking the piss out of Gram Parsons a bit, too; supposedly, he was acutely jealous of Parsons' friendship with Keith.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:23 (five years ago) Permalink

The "so I ran 20 red lights in your honor, thank you Jesus, thank you Lord" line makes me laugh every time

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 13:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Unexpectedly fallen in love with ... Dance (pt I) from Emotional Rescue

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 14:59 (five years ago) Permalink

KEEF
WHATCHOO
WHATCHOO DOIN

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:03 (five years ago) Permalink

Was listening to Sticky Fingers in the car on the way into work this morning - 'Dead Flowers' really is a perfect singing at the top of your lungs song.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:20 (five years ago) Permalink

also vv easy and fun to play

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:29 (five years ago) Permalink

Made a couple of last minute changes and sent my ballot. The deed is done!

Whiney Houson (WmC), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:31 (five years ago) Permalink

"Unexpectedly fallen in love with ... Dance (pt I) from Emotional Rescue"

Try listening to Led Zep's "Trampled Under Foot" while watching an episode of Welcome Back Kotter. Same thing! (Guess what song made my most hated list?)

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, Trampled Underfoot was exactly what I was thinking. There are a few other yacht rock type influences buried in there too though, it's a smoother listen than Zep.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Dance has an awesome groove but a) the vocals sound like they were recorded via a sewer drain across the street from the studio and b) Kieth's voice is a little, 'yeesh'.

It's not quite right. But almost great.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 15:53 (five years ago) Permalink

The vocals are awesome! I love that kind of slurry shoutalong. I cannot imagine hearing it in a club though - was supposedly a big dance hit at the time.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:03 (five years ago) Permalink

could you ask for a better 'selective discography'?
...
Keith Richards: Talk Is Cheap

Love this record so much. I still say it's by far the best Stones record of the 80s. The caliber of guest musicians is ridiculous: Bobby Keys, sure, but also Mick Taylor...and Johnnie Johnson! Maceo Parker! Bootsy Collins! Sarah Dash!

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:13 (five years ago) Permalink

i love "dead flowers" and am starting to feel like a bozo for leaving it off my ballot. i couldn't get it out of my head as i fell asleep last night, and VG otm: it's one of the best "sing along at the top of your lungs" songs ever, fake haccent and all. i mean, i'm sure it'll do just fine w/o my vote cuz you people seem p sharp, but i'm nevertheless experiencing a twinge of voter's regret.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

need to hear talk is cheap, i guess. never have.

Fozzy Osbourne (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Jagger slips into the same voice on "Dead Flowers" (less broad, which is one advantage), but I consider it a much darker, more vivid song. Even though I know that "I'll be in my basement room/with a needle and a spoon/and another girl to the pain away" is, in itself, a bit of a caricature of the Rolling Stones' image circa 1971, the line, and the whole song, actually does encapsulate why they seemed so mysterious and grown-up to me when I discovered them around that time.

just gonna come out and say it - this will be my #1 and is really the only ballot entry I'm certain of. I like to envision it as a song Jagger is singing to his future self.

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Did you ever see the Texas Chainsaw Massacre? Horrible isn't it? ... oh no, don't saw off me leg, don't saw off me arm

This is awesome!

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

It's only been mentioned once so far, but for me this stands alongside "I Am Waiting" as their prettiest song ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkm1efUhGJ4

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:00 (five years ago) Permalink

The lyrics, not so much LOL

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

one of the their best but pretty is a wrong word.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

xxpost Tarfumes otm: Talk is Cheap is great! Love it. Took me a while to get used to Keith's singing just bc the sound is still kinda Stones and you're waiting for Mick, but once you get over that, damn it's good stuff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:12 (five years ago) Permalink

re "backstreet girl": a sad & bitter little song, but undeniably lovely

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:13 (five years ago) Permalink

was there a single from Talk is Cheap? i think i remember liking it when it came out.

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Take It So Hard was the single

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:20 (five years ago) Permalink

xp At the time, I preferred Keith's singing to Mick's. But that was mainly because Mick had just put out those two crappy solo records ("Let's Work" was on MTV far more frequently than it had any right to be, which is to say, more than once), and the way he sang "competition" in "Winning Ugly" made me think, that guy there, if he doesn't stop it, man...

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I hadn't even thought about the lyrics--the music is so perfect for me, I don't think I've ever given them a thought.

clemenza, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:25 (five years ago) Permalink

the way he sang "competition" in "Winning Ugly" made me think, that guy there, if he doesn't stop it, man...

haha we won't agree will we?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I kinda wish Keith had done an earlier solo album, because his voice was so much brighter...by the time Talk is Cheap came around he's sounding a little more ragged than I'd like.

but I still love him.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:33 (five years ago) Permalink

xp I actually like that song now, but some of Jagger's 80s vocal quirks make me cringe.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 18:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Where's the Hyde Park "Bitch" youtube?

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:41 (five years ago) Permalink

scroll up; it's the whole show

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:44 (five years ago) Permalink

"bitch" is the 2nd to last song

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

stick around for "brown sugar" though, it's amazing

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I must be an idiot but I keep looking through the thread and not seeing it? I see the Marquee Club one, but not Hyde Park

Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

oh, that vid is sometimes titled "marquee club/hyde park", not sure why

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah it's Marquee Club, that's the link above.

Hyde Park is a totally different show, it was outdoors iirc?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:03 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYPFrUzp87w

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:05 (five years ago) Permalink

can always count on you tyler <3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:06 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm really looking forward to this poll but i'm not doing a ballot i just can't deal with it so soon after the bowie one and this would be even harder, god help me if we do a neil young one

these come so fast and furious! we need to take brand nubian's advice and slow down.

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:07 (five years ago) Permalink

actually that reminds me, sort of a sidetrack but does anyone have any recommendations for good live stuff to check out? official or bootleg, I'm easy. I haven't dug much into their live stuff.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:07 (five years ago) Permalink

"Brussels Affair" from stonesarchive.com has some supersonic shit on it. Also, Perth and Sydney '73 boots are ace. Taylor fucking kills on those.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:10 (five years ago) Permalink

m@tt otm that one week is a really agonizingly short amount of time to contemplate catalogs this huge and rich. but then anytime someone gives a poll a 2 or 3 week window people freak out about how they won't get to do their Letter To Cleo tracks poll until November.

some dude, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:11 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost <3 <3 thank you Tarfumes!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:11 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost the hell you're not >:[

Get on that ballot, soldier. If you don't do this you'll regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday (say, day three of results) and for the rest of your life.

Just do it fast, like ripping off a band-aid.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:12 (five years ago) Permalink

DON'T BE SUCH A BABY

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:12 (five years ago) Permalink

:D

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:12 (five years ago) Permalink

dude I've done Simon & Garfunkel, Comedy Movies, and Rolling Stones all within 3 weeks. Suck it up :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:13 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah brussels affair is the best stones boot, that perth one is great too. lotsa stuff from 72-73 is killer. also one from Leeds 71 is sweet.

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Get on that ballot, soldier. If you don't do this you'll regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday (say, day three of results) and for the rest of your life.

Just do it fast, like ripping off a band-aid.

rogermex OTFM. you gotta do this thing, m@tt.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:17 (five years ago) Permalink

some of the stones in the park stuff is a train wreck iirc. totally out of tune satisfaction. crazy how tiny they look in that video.

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:18 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost thanks tyler!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:19 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah I like hyde park to watch, but listening is just sadface. vocals are almost nonexistent in some places

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:20 (five years ago) Permalink

The El Mocambo tracks on Love You Live (Mannish Boy/Crackin' Up/Little Red Rooster/Around and Around) are loads of fun, but I haven't really liked any other live stuff I've heard by them, tbh.

Rank 'em, M@tt! 20 minutes, no apoogies, no looking back.

Whiney Houson (WmC), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:24 (five years ago) Permalink

NO APOOGIES!

Whiney Houson (WmC), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:24 (five years ago) Permalink

A ralling cry if ever there was one. Gonna make this a thing if I can tbh.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:27 (five years ago) Permalink

we need you m@tt!!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:27 (five years ago) Permalink

insane circumstances for that hyde park show -- brian jones dies two days before, hey let's break in our new guitar player in front of 250,000 people.

tylerw, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:28 (five years ago) Permalink

terrifying

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

2nd VG's request for good live stuff to check out, vids or just audio. not at all knowledgeable abt that stuff, though i like a lot of what i've heard.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:30 (five years ago) Permalink

m@tt fwiw the distribution of track votes is so broad that your ballot really will make a difference.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:32 (five years ago) Permalink

ok y'all i'll try to do one :)

by the way just because ppl are talking about the Stones, I URGE you all to track down "The True Adventures of The Rolling Stones" by Stanley Booth which I just re-read again and I think the greatest book about rock music ever written. He's with the Stones on the whole tour that culminates in Altamont. It's just brilliant writing -- in some ways, he's a less gonzo Hunter S Thompson -- but yeah if you want the Stones as the real actual human beings they were not the myth, it's just amazing and chilling in parts....serves as bit of an elegy for an entire era....

also the paperback I have has THE BEST passive/aggressive back cover blurb:

Mick Jagger on books about the Rolling Stones - "I suppose Stanley Booth's might be somewhat interesting. At the very least, I knew Stanley Booth, and he knew me."

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:33 (five years ago) Permalink

caveat is if you're an 80 & beyond stan like Ismael and Alfred, then please hang back by all means

JOEKS BRUV, I LOVE YOUSE GUYS

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

*80's

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

insane circumstances for that hyde park show -- brian jones dies two days before, hey let's break in our new guitar player in front of 250,000 people.

― tylerw, Wednesday, March 28, 2012 3:28 PM (4 minutes ago)

also, King Crimson just opened for you and blew the nonexistent roof off the joint

Whiney Houson (WmC), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

I will definitely hunt down that book, it sounds great. I've heard someone else talk about it on another ilx thread maybe?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Almost forgot, the just-released Ft. Worth '78 show is great, too.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah brussels affair is the best stones boot, that perth one is great too. lotsa stuff from 72-73 is killer. also one from Leeds 71 is sweet

I loaded down a lot of shows a couple of years back including that lot. I burned them onto CDs for my car. Great times.

About a week later I had to drive my (much) younger cousin on a long trip up the country. I happened to have Amy Winehouse's Back to Black on the stereo when I picked him up. He was sniggering at me for it, then with a flourish produced Beggar's Banquet, and was all 'time to put on some real music'. I could've let him know that if he lifted the Back to Black case he could take his pick from the half-dozen awesome boots that he'd never heard of, but I got a kick out of letting him think he was converting the square.

In retrospect it was definitely time to pull rank though.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

xp At the time, I preferred Keith's singing to Mick's. But that was mainly because Mick had just put out those two crappy solo records ("Let's Work" was on MTV far more frequently than it had any right to be, which is to say, more than once), and the way he sang "competition" in "Winning Ugly" made me think, that guy there, if he doesn't stop it, man...
― Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:22 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I see what you did there! You mean this? (@2:59)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYx6UTwHSsg

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't say I envy Jagger there, prime target having to try to keep all that together (but I do really like that take of Under My Thumb, despite everything)

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:36 (five years ago) Permalink

Relistened to Talk Is Cheap tooling around town at lunchtime. Good shit.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:37 (five years ago) Permalink

"bitch" is the 2nd to last song

you mean #1 BEST SONG!

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:37 (five years ago) Permalink

I decided not to vote for it

hate myself, tbh

THOSE HORNS

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Not sure if I'll go as far back as the 70s on my ballot, but if I do Bitch certainly has a chance of making it.

Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:42 (five years ago) Permalink

*shakes head* I may never understand

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:42 (five years ago) Permalink

ie "not going back as far as the 70's"

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:43 (five years ago) Permalink

xxpost roffle

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:44 (five years ago) Permalink

it's the distillation of what i like about the stones
loose, groovy, sleazy, loud

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:44 (five years ago) Permalink

otm

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:45 (five years ago) Permalink

feel a lot worse about cutting ruby tuesday and paint it black than bitch or brown sugar tbh.

(sentences like that, btw, are what make this poll so awesome/nutso)

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:48 (five years ago) Permalink

pretty much

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

i got ruby tuesday covered, roger...i really hope it doesn't get killed the way i think it will

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:51 (five years ago) Permalink

melanie kinda ruined ruby tuesday for me

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 21:53 (five years ago) Permalink

I can handle ruby tuesday placing, just don't make me listen to it 20 times

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:00 (five years ago) Permalink

I hated cutting "Bitch," it was one of the last to go, but I rationalized that "Stray Cat Blues" and a couple of others would maintain the sleaze factor of my ballot.

Brad C., Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:07 (five years ago) Permalink

I see what you did there! You mean this? (@2:59)

haha, yep.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:18 (five years ago) Permalink

^^ username victory itt

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:59 (five years ago) Permalink

what do people like about Bitch exactly

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 22:59 (five years ago) Permalink

the monster riff, shakey!

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:12 (five years ago) Permalink

always seemed like one of the weaker tracks on Sticky Fingers imho. (the other being the execrable I Got the Blues)

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:13 (five years ago) Permalink

er I mean You Gotta Move. I Got the Blues is pretty weak too tho

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:14 (five years ago) Permalink

here's a horrible cover of Bitch by the Silkworm guy and Stephen Malkmus!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Buf1eQaHT8

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:14 (five years ago) Permalink

m@tt otm that one week is a really agonizingly short amount of time to contemplate catalogs this huge and rich. but then anytime someone gives a poll a 2 or 3 week window people freak out about how they won't get to do their Letter To Cleo tracks poll until November.

― some dude, Wednesday, March 28, 2012

fwiw if the ILX Poll Gods see fit I have no issue with extending the polling period. just had the impression we're trying to keep things tight.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:26 (five years ago) Permalink

what do people like about Bitch exactly

it's the distillation of what i like about the stones
loose, groovy, sleazy, loud
what more do you want? it has everything a person could ask for aside from a new pair of balls

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:30 (five years ago) Permalink

also: fantastic Charlie drumming (love when he switches to using the hi-hat) and the best enunciation of "Pavlov dog" in rock history.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:33 (five years ago) Permalink

^^ "pavlov dog" and charlie's turnaround are actually the only things that gave me a half-second's hesitation about cutting it loose

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:39 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm okay w/extending the deadline. It'll give me some needed prep time for my Kinks poll.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 23:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I Got the Blues weak? uhhhhhhhhhh no.

Bitch is fat, nasty and rockin. Huge horn section, super groovy bassline...it's the shit, shakey!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:05 (five years ago) Permalink

i am satisfied with my existing balls, thank you

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm hearing ” Upgrade U” in a whole new light

the penultimate prophets (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 29 March 2012 00:55 (five years ago) Permalink

i have voted

what a world

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:24 (five years ago) Permalink

No objection here to extending balloting -- I hope it results in more votes! It's impossible to know if there are many ilxors out there who were on the fence about voting if only they had more time.

Whiney Houson (WmC), Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:36 (five years ago) Permalink

i for one am in no rush to stop re-listening pre-vote. i go in cycles of bingeing on bands and the stones' turn came right on time

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:10 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm skeptical that a deadline will prevent ppl from voting -- i suspect it's more the scope of the task/decisions

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:13 (five years ago) Permalink

i'm down for extending the listening party for an extra two days, with ballots due the same time on Sunday, April 1. i'd still be able to roll out results on the same calendar.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:29 (five years ago) Permalink

speaking of which, and to get m@tt in the mood...

blog with separate tracks of Gimme Shelter this is pretty fucking amazing

the mick/merry vocal track is INSANE acapella...

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/deconstructing_gimme_shelter_listen/

this is the greatest song...

at their peak they were conjuring some serious bad mojo

― kl0pper city in the ghetto (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, December 1, 2010

sadly most of the vids have been disabled but:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5rUKbI3Y-M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM1Y10Ufcdg

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:33 (five years ago) Permalink

^^ labels are a bit off between lead gtr, rhythm gtr and harp but it don't matter none

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:41 (five years ago) Permalink

the mick/merry vocal track is INSANE

otmfm

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 March 2012 02:43 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, she alone on "rape & murder...", hair-raising, the way her voice breaks the third time through

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 March 2012 03:20 (five years ago) Permalink

omg

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 03:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Added deadline time to OP and thread title

Whiney Houson (WmC), Thursday, 29 March 2012 03:59 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, she alone on "rape & murder...", hair-raising, the way her voice breaks the third time through

^ this. Love Jagger's impressed "woo!" at that voice-break.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 29 March 2012 04:07 (five years ago) Permalink

got my hands on the Brussels Affair, woo :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 05:57 (five years ago) Permalink

haven't got time to check if it's been mentioned already, but just wanted to throw some love to "child of the moon". it was a late addition to my yet-to-be-ordered ballot.

charlie h, Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:06 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, i've been boostering heavily for "child of the moon" all week. have posted two different youtubes. amazing song, but you're only the second other person to have mentioned it, iirc. :(

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:17 (five years ago) Permalink

the mick/merry vocal track is INSANE

listening to this should really be a prerequsite for voting

just 2:45 to 3:15

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:18 (five years ago) Permalink

mick's 'woo' is like holy shit merry

mookieproof, Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:20 (five years ago) Permalink

And hitting that HUGE high and then going all the way to a perfect low is just...she's incredible

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 06:27 (five years ago) Permalink

i dunno, maybe that's how we sound to yawl

I been meanin' to come back to this. Do the Stones come across as terribly British to American ears? Both musically as well as vocally, I mean.

Running through the catalogue chronologically, as I've been doing, it seems like there's not much there that isn't basically American after about 1968, except Mick's cab driver on 'Too Much Blood' and one or two other curios like that. But I get that it might not sound that way to yawl.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 March 2012 10:04 (five years ago) Permalink

Do the Stones come across as terribly British to American ears? Both musically as well as vocally, I mean.

Yes and yes. A whole lot of subsequent American bands sounded more like the Stones than the Stones' sources, but their early sound screams British Invasion.

I like Jagger's fake redneck accent all right on "Dead Flowers" but it totally ruins "Far Away Eyes" for me, just like his fake patois ruins "Cherry Oh Baby."

Brad C., Thursday, 29 March 2012 12:17 (five years ago) Permalink

harping back to "child of the moon", there's something detached about it, and mysterious -- an anomaly in the Stones canon for me, given how direct and pragmatic their approach to songwriting usually strikes me as. it's dreamy enough to get lost in, with those loose, stretched vocal harmonies that are in no hurry to get anywhere, yet somehow stands as an immaculately crafted rock song with hook by way of sublime chord change. my favourite Stones songs are often the unrepentant sleaze-ridden rockers, which build their mettle on bare-boned riff and howl. but as far as their tender stuff goes, "child of the moon" is right up there for me.

charlie h, Thursday, 29 March 2012 14:58 (five years ago) Permalink

Child of the Moon was a deliberate attempt to court the US market--and Mick described it as having a "California" sound, which makes sense with your description

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:29 (five years ago) Permalink

oh cool. that's a nice little anecdote that i wasn't aware of. and yeah, it does make a lot of sense :)

charlie h, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:31 (five years ago) Permalink

to get back to "Bitch" -- this is what the Stooges would sound like if they had Charlie Watts on drums. Such a lethal groove.
and yes, the stones are super-british to my american ears.

tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:32 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah totally british. that campy fey androgyne thing - American white guys didn't do that very much

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:35 (five years ago) Permalink

til the NY Dolls, who basically got it from the Stones. VU had it a bit too, i suppose, in a different kinda way.

tylerw, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:37 (five years ago) Permalink

never been able to get my head around how Bill does that with his legs

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:40 (five years ago) Permalink

"lethal drumming" otm
relentless without being too overbearing/showboaty too

two overweight dachshunds with three eyes (La Lechera), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:41 (five years ago) Permalink

It's the old British-coding-as-gay-and-vice-versa thing again then xps? I wonder how that came about, it wasn't invented by Mick was it? Pretty sure it wouldn't've been high in our armoury of self-image post WWII, I'm guessing.

Ismael Klata, Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:46 (five years ago) Permalink

well Mick copped it from Little Richard sooooo

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Jagger talks about it quite a bit in the Rolling Stone interview that Alfred linked to upthread. Worth a read.

I hadn't considered until Jagger pointed it out that Elvis has a certain feminine quality to him.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 15:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Elvis was "pretty"

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Lovely lips

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:22 (five years ago) Permalink

harping back to "child of the moon", there's something detached about it, and mysterious... it's dreamy enough to get lost in, with those loose, stretched vocal harmonies that are in no hurry to get anywhere, yet somehow stands as an immaculately crafted rock song with hook by way of sublime chord change.

― charlie h, Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:58 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Child of the Moon was a deliberate attempt to court the US market--and Mick described it as having a "California" sound, which makes sense with your description

― Iago Galdston, Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:29 AM (59 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, that's so strange to me, cuz "california" is the last association i'd make. it reminds me strongly of the early velvet underground, especially "all tomorrow's parties" and even "venus in furs" to some extent. though it does work as a pop song, it has a weird, glassy-eyed inertness and vacancy that only amplify its allure. hell, it's practically a drone. so spooky.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:38 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, i find it weird that mick thought this could be a hit...can't remember what was on the b-side, but it was one of their monster hits I think...

Iago Galdston, Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

jumping jack flash iirc

band of susans used to do a cover of it emphasising its droneyness

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Thursday, 29 March 2012 16:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Listening to Brussels Affair (thanks to Tarfumes/Tylerw for recommendation) --- the Keys solo in "Can't Always Get What You Want" is so gorgeous, I wish it was on the original. My god.

also Keith doing 'Happy' made me very. Kinda feel like I should've rethought about voting for it. idk.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 March 2012 23:34 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah contenderizer, i definitely hear some VU sound-wise. both "child" and a song like "all tomorrow's parties" channel something exotic, stoned and distant. lyrically and thematically, i can see how the California thing ties in. i mean, underlying VU's work was a certain street-swagger, self-awareness and poise, which gave even their most abstract songs a defined edge. the Stones obviously exhibited this too in a bunch of their songs, but there's something naive and idealistic about "child of the moon", which i find pretty charming. what is kind of surprising is that it was a calculated move on their part, because even if it was just a one-off of sorts, it sounds natural and inspired.

charlie h, Friday, 30 March 2012 00:04 (five years ago) Permalink

I've never really gotten all the way into the Stones like rock/pop fanatics are supposed to, so beyond the singles I mostly know Exile, Aftermath, Sticky Fingers and to a somewhat lesser extent Beggars & Let it Bleed. All terrific records of course, and Emotional Rescue was a pleasant Spotify surprise a couple weeks back, but I can't imagine omitting more than half a dozen of the tracks previously compiled on Hot Rocks, which I've loved to pieces since high school. Fucking dilettante, I know. But I wanna vote in this, so I guess I'll be that guy.

do dat do dat do do dat dat dat (thewufs), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:02 (five years ago) Permalink

before you do vote, at least consider listening to some of the less well-known stuff posted itt. promise you won't regret it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j24CZ66q4PQ

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:07 (five years ago) Permalink

an all HOT ROCKS ballot would be frighteningly reasonable. but which of the 21 tracks would you cut?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:17 (five years ago) Permalink

good question. looking at the tracklist now, i'd probably cut "honky tonk woman". maybe "get off of my cloud".

charlie h, Friday, 30 March 2012 02:56 (five years ago) Permalink

An all More Hot Rocks ballot would be fine challops.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 March 2012 02:58 (five years ago) Permalink

once you made the necessary cut/s, how would you ORDER said Hot Rocks tracks, that is the question

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:06 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost suddenly reconsidering on ethical grounds whether to allow any ABKCO tracks on my ballot

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Midnight Rambler and Can't Always Get would be easy cuts from a Hot Rocks ballot. Cutting eight songs from More Hot Rocks would be tougher.

Whiney Houson (WmC), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:40 (five years ago) Permalink

I voted Connection (though not #1)

broom air, Friday, 30 March 2012 03:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Also, as Xgau sez, Hot Rocks is for the people, More Hot Rocks is for specialists.

broom air, Friday, 30 March 2012 03:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm a special people

Whiney Houson (WmC), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I hope "19th Nervous Breakdown" gets serious love in this.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:52 (five years ago) Permalink

specialists, like assassins?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 03:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Late voters! Love songs that work on multiple levels? Love Keith Richards's voice? Like humor that's kind of serious? Please consider:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1OAkWGUMKY

Three Word Username, Friday, 30 March 2012 06:34 (five years ago) Permalink

looking at the tracklist now, i'd probably cut "honky tonk woman". maybe "get off of my cloud".

>>>>>>:[

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 06:36 (five years ago) Permalink

"wear white..."

Mark G, Friday, 30 March 2012 06:36 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, that's my favorite bit. song bugs me otherwise.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 06:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I think the song is kind of creepy, and I like my Stones kinda creepy, to be honest.

Three Word Username, Friday, 30 March 2012 07:30 (five years ago) Permalink

How many ballots submitted so far? On the fence, really need to work next week (and not follow the results obsessively ...)

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:10 (five years ago) Permalink

If you haven't voted yet, then we're one short.

Whiney Houson (WmC), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Hah

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:32 (five years ago) Permalink

wmc otm

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:32 (five years ago) Permalink

don't be a baby, vote today!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Considering that there is a lot of love for certain songs I don't like very much I really should

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:34 (five years ago) Permalink

eesh i have to vote i guess.

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:35 (five years ago) Permalink

Loading up Spotify now, will put in some quality time and see where I end up.

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:37 (five years ago) Permalink

HELL YEAH YOU BETTER VOTE TYLER WTF

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:39 (five years ago) Permalink

I haven't voted.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:42 (five years ago) Permalink

is the deadline still today?

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:43 (five years ago) Permalink

ah i see, no

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:43 (five years ago) Permalink

you still got two whole glorious stones-drunken days

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Stones

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:46 (five years ago) Permalink

I just love saying that, it's like the coolest rock & roll word ever

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:47 (five years ago) Permalink

fuckin stones, man

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:49 (five years ago) Permalink

just sent in my ballot!

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:49 (five years ago) Permalink

:D

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Currently no threat to the Bowie record unless the lurkers show up in droves. Get those ballots in!

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:50 (five years ago) Permalink

so excited for the results thread

They're a band where I think no matter how the results shake out, I'll enjoy the hell out of the process.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:50 (five years ago) Permalink

GAME OF STONES

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:51 (five years ago) Permalink

haha

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:54 (five years ago) Permalink

JAGGER IS COMING

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:54 (five years ago) Permalink

voted. yowza that was hard. probably leaned more towards greatest hits than deep cuts, really. the greatest hits are great!

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 16:58 (five years ago) Permalink

they surely are

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 16:58 (five years ago) Permalink

i definitely voted for some deep cuts but even some of their album tracks feel like ubiquitous timeless standards so it's a blurry line

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:00 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah at this point, nothing from Sticky Fingers really feels like a "deep cut"...

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I ended up with like, 5 Sticky Fingers tracks.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

only 4 for me, but i really could've voted for all of 'em.

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:08 (five years ago) Permalink

this is too hard and everyone else is way more into this catalog than I am, gonna refrain from voting

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:09 (five years ago) Permalink

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f8/RS_StickyF-Esp71.jpg
weird!

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:10 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, that's far less offensive than the zipper cover.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Shakey, don't be a crybaby. RIP THE BANDAID. We need you!

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:12 (five years ago) Permalink

xxxpost shakey don't u dare >:[

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:12 (five years ago) Permalink

In re "Connection," it was in contention for me but I ended throwing my BtB deep-cut vote to "Something Happened to Me Yesterday."

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:14 (five years ago) Permalink

gripe, grumble, grudge

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

ffs there is no excuse for not voting, seriously

Just half of Bridges to Babylon, all of A Bigger Bang, and a buncha heartache then I'll be ready to go. I'm just gonna have to abandon the 60s stuff. It's probably rubbish anyway.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:16 (five years ago) Permalink

In re "Connection," it was in contention for me but I ended throwing my BtB deep-cut vote to "Something Happened to Me Yesterday."

That makes two of us. Would rule if it made the final results.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

there's just vast swathes of their catalog I haven't listened to and, frankly, don't feel like investigating right now - and everything I like is obvious and gonna get voted for anyway so eh whatever

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:17 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I ended up with like, 5 Sticky Fingers tracks.

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, March 30, 2012 10:06 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

only 4 for me, but i really could've voted for all of 'em.

― tylerw, Friday, March 30, 2012 10:08 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

voted for 0 sticky fingers tracks. probably should have voted for brown sugar, but figured the hot rocks voters would cover that base for me. "sway" and "dead flowers" came very close for me, but we've talked abt that upthread.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:19 (five years ago) Permalink

? Ah right xp, BtB can also refer to Between the Buttons

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:20 (five years ago) Permalink

Ismael your ballot gives me stomach cramps but I love you dearly so I can't shout at you

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:21 (five years ago) Permalink

<3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:21 (five years ago) Permalink

SHAKEY YOU GODDAMN GRINCH JUST VOTE JEEZUS

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

Aw shucks, it's all mutual

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:22 (five years ago) Permalink

plus you still have years of good will with me from doing the fiction poll

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

roger noted VOODOO LOUNGE on my albums pallot (and 2 songs from it on my tracks ballot) and said i should defend it itt. i think it's aged really well, at least compared to anything since or a decade or so beforehand.

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:23 (five years ago) Permalink

My 80s-and-beyond shortlist is at 21 tracks already btw, I'm still gonna have some weeding to do xp

Voodoo Lounge is really, really good btw, it made this morning a joy.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Something went a bit wrong mid-80s though, Dirty Work is almost a write-off. I think it's the drum sound.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

btw i didn't mean "explain yourself!" or nothin'... just, without commenting on any ballots I can say that going in I expected the real Big Reveal in the album results to be #5 and it's cool to see the love get spread around. I can't say I voted for it, but it's the last record where it felt like the Stones managed a few minutes of relevance. Like, that Fincher vid was all over the MTV.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

there's just vast swathes of their catalog I haven't listened to and, frankly, don't feel like investigating right now - and everything I like is obvious and gonna get voted for anyway so eh whatever

― You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, March 30, 2012

imma get sincere for a sec and say, see, this is why you SHOULD vote. your idiosyncratic experience of the catalog as someone who Loves Music is at least as valuable as any imagined Expert Assessment.*

...

*or at least, this is the rationale by which I allowed myself to cut a ton of classic and historically significant and Important stuff off my ballot in favor of tracks that for whatever reason have mattered deeply to me at various times in my life.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^^^^

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, i didn't let being unfamiliar with "vast swathes" of their catalog (well most anything post 1980?) stop me from voting.

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I was super-intimidated going in bc everyone was talking about songs and albums I didn't know. I tried to get down with a couple of albums I hadn't heard, that yielded maybe 1 song that i would vote for...but most of them were songs that had already burrowed their way in, and fuck it, there's nothing wrong with that.

follow your heart shakey! <3

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:44 (five years ago) Permalink

it goes beyond anything post-1980 tho. don't think I've ever listened to the entirety of Between the Buttons or Aftermath, for ex. or Goat's Head Soup. Or It's Only Rock n Roll... I mean I have a *bunch* of Stones stuff but there's all kinds of things I never bothered to track down/sort out (their pre-70s catalog is a mess - almost as bad as the Kinks!) and I mean does Brown Sugar really need any more votes etc

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:44 (five years ago) Permalink

Aw just vote & don't fret about it, it makes the countdown more fun.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:45 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost yes! if it's a song you like then fuck it, why not?

Listen to what you like, dude. You sound almost exactly like where I was at. Give your favorite albums a relisten, maybe listen to one that you don't go back to very often, and just go with your gut.

too much overthinking will make a ballot with a bunch of songs that you don't actually care about, and what's the point of that?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:47 (five years ago) Permalink

or at least, this is the rationale by which I allowed myself to cut a ton of classic and historically significant and Important stuff off my ballot in favor of tracks that for whatever reason have mattered deeply to me at various times in my life

yeah, that's how i wound up with half of goats head soup on my ballot

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost okay you don't need to bother with IT'S ONLY ROCK'N'ROLL ;-)

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:52 (five years ago) Permalink

"It's Only Rock 'n' Roll (But I'll Never Forgive You If You Don't Vote)"

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:54 (five years ago) Permalink

pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze shakey?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:57 (five years ago) Permalink

thread is bringing back childhood memories of my mom rooster walking around the house in anticipation of the Steel Wheels tour

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:58 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^ ain't too proud to beg
xp

Whiney Houson (WmC), Friday, 30 March 2012 17:58 (five years ago) Permalink

jeez, the amount of rooster walking I've been doing this week...

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:59 (five years ago) Permalink

I bought a pair of yellow spandex lyra shorts and some kneepads, I have no idea what's come over me

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:05 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm having my blood changed while awaiting trial for Heroin Trafficking!

Too far? Yeah.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:07 (five years ago) Permalink

no perfect

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:09 (five years ago) Permalink

no-one's allowed to climb ANY palm trees between now and the results thread. We don't want any hospitalizations.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:09 (five years ago) Permalink

done and sent. i would have been satisfied with 30 songs in my ballot--20 was just not enough

Iago Galdston, Friday, 30 March 2012 18:44 (five years ago) Permalink

naughty schoolteacher >>>>>>>>>>>> rooster

You big bully, why are you hitting that little bully? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 30 March 2012 18:45 (five years ago) Permalink

This sucks

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:45 (five years ago) Permalink

ha, yeah. i'm actually almost more interested to see what gets left off. like, i ended up cutting satisfaction -- what if everyone cut satisfaction!? omg.

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Curious to see how many votes "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" gets vs. "(first half of) Can't You Hear Me Knocking."

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:48 (five years ago) Permalink

Dude, I cut that shit early. Eff it. The riff was not enough, nor the cool drum beat, nor the ... wait a minute.

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

Uh, "Satisfaction" that is.

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:49 (five years ago) Permalink

who the hell would only vote for the first half?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:50 (five years ago) Permalink

Hah, as a kid I totally shut "Can't You Hear Me Knocking" off halfway through! Dig it all now.

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:50 (five years ago) Permalink

I do dig it all, but there was definitely a time when I didn't.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

i the hell would def vote for only the first half if given the option

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:51 (five years ago) Permalink

Great use of it in Casino, too.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:52 (five years ago) Permalink

would vote for "you can't always get what you want" without the choir at the beginning too

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

ha, yeah. i'm actually almost more interested to see what gets left off. like, i ended up cutting satisfaction -- what if everyone cut satisfaction!? omg.

― tylerw, Friday, March 30, 2012 3:47 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i wouldn't be surprised if "Satisfaction" gets the shaft. "Whole Lotta Love" was outside the top 20 of the Zep poll iirc!

love all of "Knocking" so much. the second half is WHY it stands out!

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

otm, that jam is killer. what do you guys have against sweet conga grooves.

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:53 (five years ago) Permalink

fwiw i can't stand santana so

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:54 (five years ago) Permalink

if we polled those halves, i might vote for the second half!

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:54 (five years ago) Permalink

^^ fire it up imo

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

second half of "knockin'" does drag if i'm not in the right mood. 1st half is always gold.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:55 (five years ago) Permalink

"satisfaction" better not get the shaft >:[

of all the ur-classic hot rocks jams, it was one of only a small handful i never considered cutting

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:56 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't You Hear Me Knocking has got to make it, and high. You guys are making me doubt the wisdom of my approach here.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 19:58 (five years ago) Permalink

so many big Stones radio staples are these tight 3-minute singles that it's nice to occasionally hear that one big sprawling AOR noodlefest imo

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:59 (five years ago) Permalink

you don't vote for sway, i don't vote for satisfaction, it all works out. respect the rad use of guitar fx and maybe having to sing it in a cover band soured me a bit but, as discussed above, much as i respect it and even dig it, i've never loved it like i have others. so.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 19:59 (five years ago) Permalink

holy crap, you voted for Cant You Hear Me Knocking, Ismael? I thought it was all 80's all the time with you? :)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Haven't voted yet, I'm just lining them up. I may have to persuade the missus (an occasional poster) to fill in the gaps for me.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Satisfaction still kicks me in the face whenever I listen to it. Also I always get caught up in thinking how much it must have blown people's wigs back when they first played it on the radio. I mean, what the hell else even sounded remotely like that?

Also the story behind the DIY guitar sound is awesome (I think it's in Keef's book or on the NPR interview with Terri Gross)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:09 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought it was just a Gibson Maestro fuzztone?

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:12 (five years ago) Permalink

There are so many gems on these late albums though. If I ever host a dinner party I'm going to put my ballot on a CD to confuse guests - there'll be this amazing soundtrack that sounds like the Stones tearing through Stones classics, but nobody's ever heard any of them.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:14 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost there's some story about him having to rig something up in a hotel bedroom using the alarm clock or something , if memory serves.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh, weird, didn't know that!

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:17 (five years ago) Permalink

Ballot sent. Uggh. Skipped everything after Tatto You, sorry.

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:17 (five years ago) Permalink

I lied, I made all of that up....but there's a good snippet here of what he did that's a better story than my imaginary one

GROSS: You have a great story in your book about how you co-wrote, well, how you got "Satisfaction" started. You co-wrote the song with Mick Jagger, but you originated it, and you didn't know you were doing it. Can you...?

Mr. RICHARDS: I wish all the songs could come this way, you know, where you just dream them, and then the next morning, there they are, presented to you.

But "Satisfaction" was that sort of miracle that took place. I had a I had one of the first little cassette players, you know, Norelco, Philips, same thing, really. But it was a fascinating little machine to me, a cassette player that you could actually just lay ideas down and, you know, wherever you were.

I set the machine up, and I put in a fresh tape. I go to bed as usual with my guitar, and I wake up the next morning, I see that the tape is run to the very end.

And I think: Well, I didn't do anything. You know, maybe I hit a button when I was asleep. So I put it back to the beginning and pushed play and there, in some sort of ghostly version, is (singing) da, da, da, da, da - I can't get no satisfaction.

And so it was a whole verse of it. I won't bore you with it all. But - and after that, there's, you know, 40 minutes of me snoring.

(Soundbite of laughter)

Mr. RICHARDS: But there's the song in its embryo, and I actually dreamt the damned thing. You know, and I'm still waiting for another dream.

GROSS: So, do you think you kind of did that while sleepwalking or something?

Mr. RICHARDS: Oh, I wasn't walking. I was lying down, and I did it lying down, darling. I don't know about you, honey, but I do most of this stuff lying down.

(Soundbite of laughter)

GROSS: You said as usual, I went to bed with my guitar. Did you always take your guitar to bed then?

Mr. RICHARDS: It always has to be at hand, even now. I have to...

GROSS: Because?

Mr. RICHARDS: I have to know where it is in case I have another dream.

GROSS: In case you get an idea?

(Soundbite of laughter)

GROSS: Right. So do you always have a recording device on hand, too?

Mr. RICHARDS: No, not anymore. I rely upon my memory more now.

GROSS: So you still have your guitar in case an idea comes to you, and...

Mr. RICHARDS: Absolutely. Where would I be without it?

GROSS: Okay, so you bring this germ of a song, basically the first verse, to Mick Jagger, and then you flesh it out into a more complete song. What's the process between you and him in making a full song out of what came to you?

Mr. RICHARDS: Well, at least in those days, and pretty much throughout the whole thing, is I'll come up with a riff, the idea and maybe the subject matter, the type. And then I'd go on to write the next one, and Mick would flesh out and finish it off and make it into a real song.

I'd come up with the ideas. Mick turns it into a finished product, you know. And we were working so hard in those days that you couldn't write them fast enough. So any idea, I came, I'd shove it to Mick, and Mick would work on that, and I'd have another idea, with a little luck.

GROSS: Now, how did the line I can't get no satisfaction come to you at a time when you should've been having a lot of very satisfying, gratifying moments?

(Soundbite of laughter)

Mr. RICHARDS: Darling, I don't know. I dreamt it.

GROSS: True, okay.

Mr. RICHARDS: I mean, nobody's ever satisfied, right? And it was just a phrase that obviously, you know, was buzzing through the mind, and whether you could express anything or enlarge on that idea of because otherwise, I can't get any satisfaction is kind of, you know, sort of moaning.

But if you then you can take it and expand it, which Mick did brilliantly. There it is. I mean, these things are all made out of little sparks of ideas that come to you, and you're lucky to be around to grab them. And that's kind of basically the process of how we work.

GROSS: Okay, so let's hear "Satisfaction." This is The Rolling Stones. My guest is Keith Richards, and he's written a new autobiography called "Life."

(Soundbite of song, "(I Can't Get No) Satisfaction")

The ROLLING STONES: I can't get no satisfaction. I can't get no satisfaction 'cuz I try and I try and I try and I try. I can't get no, I can't get no.

When I'm drivin' in my car and that man comes on the radio and he's tellin' me more and more about some useless information, supposed to fire my imagination, I can't get no, oh no, no, no, hey, hey, hey, that's what I say.

GROSS: That's The Rolling Stones, and my guest is Keith Richards, and he's written his autobiography. It's called "Life." Now that cassette that you mentioned, that you used to write down the idea for "Satisfaction" in the middle of the night that so surprised you when you played it back in the morning, that cassette or one just like it was also really helpful to you in coming up with a kind of transformative guitar sound.

Would you describe how you would plug your acoustic guitar in motel rooms, into the cassette machine?

Mr. RICHARDS: I'll try. Yes, no, it was a good question. You know, I'll try because there I am, I now have my hands on the best amplifiers in the world and the best guitars. But I'm trying to translate another sound in my head that I can't find through conventional means.

I was, at the time, finding it I always play a lot of acoustic guitar, and the cassette machine, in those days, before they had things on them called governors, which mean that you could not overload the machinery, I would just shove the acoustic guitar and use basically, I would use the cassette player as an amplifier, basically, and overload the acoustic guitar so it becomes an electric guitar.

But at the same time, you see, you still have that feel of an acoustic, which is totally different to an electric. So and I'm still looking for the perfect example of this, but I'm going to keep going.

GROSS: So what you would get is like an electrified acoustic guitar that was also distorted.

Mr. RICHARDS: Yeah, exactly. You've got it, Terry. You've got it. That's it. I was trying to get the quality and the touch that you can get from an acoustic guitar and then overload it and make it sound like an electric guitar.

But at the same time, you have that original acoustic touch because, you know, this gets complicated, because guitars are strange animals. But there's a touch that you can get off an acoustic guitar that you'll never get off an electric.

And so I was trying to figure how to electrify the acoustic feel and still translate it, and so that was the name of the game. That was it.

GROSS: Now, it was surprising enough to me to read how you did this in your motel room, but then reading how you did it also in the recording studio was fascinating, that you wanted that sound so much that you brought in the cassette machine and plugged your acoustic guitar into it.

Mr. RICHARDS: Yes, I mean, I took these ideas, and the Stones were in the studio, and we were all looking at it and saying: It doesn't have what you had on the, you know, on the original idea.

And so finally, after many attempts to try and reproduce this sort of idea, you know, with amplifiers and, you know, conventionally, I think it was Charlie Watts, maybe. Let's go back, you know, to how you did it in the first place and work it from there, you know, which is why you've got "Street Fighting Men" and "Jumpin' Jack Flashes." There are no electric guitars at all. It's just overloaded acoustics.

I don't know. I like that denseness, of color, feel that you can get out of that. And it's an experiment I might take up again once they start making cassette machines again.

(Soundbite of laughter)

GROSS: So you think "Jumpin' Jack Flash" is a good illustration of what you were doing?

Mr. RICHARDS: Yeah, yeah, and "Street Fighting Men" is probably another great example of it.

http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=130722581

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Also can I just say I'm the first person to HATE being called darling/sweetheart etc and I hate it when old aging rockstars do it to female interviewers but Keef might be the only person on earth who can do that to Terry Gross and get a pleasant, happy laugh in response. Which proves there is a world of difference between Gene Simmons and Keef.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought that was the case with "Street Fighting Man" (the overloaded acoustic)...didn't know about "Jumpin' Jack Flash"!

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:24 (five years ago) Permalink

which is why you've got "Street Fighting Men" and "Jumpin' Jack Flashes." There are no electric guitars at all. It's just overloaded acoustics.

No way!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:24 (five years ago) Permalink

SEE HOW AWESOME HE IS?

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:25 (five years ago) Permalink

Defend the Indefensible: Metamorphosis

Iago Galdston, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:26 (five years ago) Permalink

was just listening to that the other day and i like a bunch of it - Jiving sister fanny, Memo from Turner, and a few others make it well worth owning....

epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

defend something actually indefensible, like Black and Blue

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:30 (five years ago) Permalink

"I Don't Know Why" from Metamorphosis made my top 10. The combination of Taylor's slide and the horns on the chorus is insane.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:32 (five years ago) Permalink

i love Keith interviews. you forget sometimes because he's such a character (or caricature, really) but he really is a brilliant guy.

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

Black And Blue is a lovely album!

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:34 (five years ago) Permalink

ugh I hate Black and Blue. I can't get with it at all.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:36 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah! It's Only Another Bad Mid Seventies Stones Album is far worse

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

Oh yeah, I forgot there are a few normal songs on Metamorphosis--I was thinking all it had on it was those weird Phil Spector-ish covers. My mistake. Black and Blue on the other hand is a very good record. If you're gonna pick on 70s Stones, try Only Rock and Roll...that's a true stinker!

Iago Galdston, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

defend something actually indefensible, like Black and Blue

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, March 30, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKH9enYiFIU

qed

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

The only song I don't like at all on BnB is Melody

Iago Galdston, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:37 (five years ago) Permalink

The thing I love about Keef is he's always down for a chat. Even if he's been asked the same question a thousand times, he gives a new rambly answer. He loves to tell a story. And he doesn't take himself terribly seriously, which makes me like him all the more.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

I thought we all agreed that "Hand of Fate," "Crazy Mama," and "Memory Motel" were good songs.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

Crazy Mama's not all that, but the other two are terrific

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:39 (five years ago) Permalink

Is there anyone out there but me who likes Fool to Cry?

Iago Galdston, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:40 (five years ago) Permalink

Hand of Fate reminds me a little of Bruce, it's not HORRIBLE....but every song on that album, they sound like they're dead inside. Everything's sorta flat, and kinda bored sounding to me. Like, ugh let's just get this over with, throwing out a steak to the barking dogs kinda thing.

Maybe it's just me.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:40 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm the first person to HATE being called darling/sweetheart etc and I hate it when old aging rockstars do it to female interviewers but Keef might be the only person on earth who can do that to Terry Gross and get a pleasant, happy laugh in response. Which proves there is a world of difference between Gene Simmons and Keef.

when Keef calls you "darlin" you hear his affection and he's actually listening you ("No one's ever divorced ME!" he once cracked). When it's Gene Simmons calling you "darling" he wants you to notice that none of that women's lib crap made a fuck's worth of difference on his dick size.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:40 (five years ago) Permalink

i just barely cut "Memory Motel" from my ballot

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:40 (five years ago) Permalink

'I Don't Know Why' is fantastic btw. I'd never've found it without that tipoff - lord knows how much stuff I'll never hear.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Is there anyone out there but me who likes Fool to Cry?

I do but it's one of those outliers like "Undercover of the Night" -- they never approached that sound again, y'know?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

ooh

when I said every song I meant every song except Fool To Cry

my brain thinks it's from a different album bc I like that one

(hides)

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

btw I've been in love for years with Mick and Keef's terrible keyboard work on "Memory Motel." It makes the song.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

Fool To Cry was a very late cut for me, sad to see it go.

grandavis, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:42 (five years ago) Permalink

xxpost eisbaer otm. Gene uses those epithets as some kind of weapon to get a reaction. Keef's affection always seems legit.

I would like Keef to call me darlin.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:43 (five years ago) Permalink

i know people of taste who really dig "fool to cry." i'm not one of them but.

would take "worried about you" over "fool to cry" or "memory motel" without hesitation.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:44 (five years ago) Permalink

I Don't Know Why was written by Stevie Wonder, correct? Or did he just cover it too? Anyway, if you know Stevie Wonder's version, I prefer it to the Stones' (xp)
Yeah, that's true about Fool to Cry--sort of a one off, but I like it alot

Iago Galdston, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:45 (five years ago) Permalink

'I Don't Know Why' was what they were recording on the night Brian Jones died, it says here.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:45 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgwj6HZ04po

Iago Galdston, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Yep, it's a Stevie Wonder tune. I love Stevie's version (it was way up on my Stevie ballot), and I'm glad I heard it first. But the Stones version has more drama. And it has Mick Taylor.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:47 (five years ago) Permalink

Is there anyone out there but me who likes Fool to Cry?

no, i fucking love that song. better than "hand of fate" even. was the last thing i cut from my ballot :.......(

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:48 (five years ago) Permalink

i love Stones R&B covers, wanted to vote for "Ain't Too Proud To Beg" and "Just My Imagination" but it seemed simpler and wiser to stick with originals

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:48 (five years ago) Permalink

btw Undercover is not a fab album but "All the Way Down" is a good tune

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:48 (five years ago) Permalink

I voted for Fool To Cry. Placed it pretty low, but it's such a lovely melody.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:49 (five years ago) Permalink

TOO MUCH TOO MUCH BLOOD

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink

spoken word part is hilarious & the video is all time for sure

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:51 (five years ago) Permalink

http://www.schlockmania.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/SA-tmblood-RS-01.jpg

NEVER FORGET

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I was going to say I placed "Memory Motel" at the bottom of my ballot but I haven't submitted it yet.

"Memory Motel" is so strong that even the version with Dave Matthews in 1998 has Keith in great voice (the crowd goes apeshit too).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:52 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost eeegah

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:52 (five years ago) Permalink

There are so many gems on these late albums though. If I ever host a dinner party I'm going to put my ballot on a CD to confuse guests - there'll be this amazing soundtrack that sounds like the Stones tearing through Stones classics, but nobody's ever heard any of them.

― Ismael Klata, Friday, March 30, 2012 1:14 PM (33 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

you should post a few tubes, IK, like other posters who've been trying to proselytize for the underappreciated (!voteforchildofthemoonnow!). i say this cuz i don't really know the post-undercover stuff at all at all. i only know that i don't like any of the later singles and have had no luck listening to random tracks.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Try this one, contenderizer. It's not major but I love its groove:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GVEGu776Og

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:54 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2pkO-CBiyA

it would feel perverse to vote for "Continental Drift" but I dig it lots

Euler, Friday, 30 March 2012 20:54 (five years ago) Permalink

this is a REALLY killer ballad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x50YVcEZM68

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Laugh I Nearly Died is pretty good, I really liked Bigger Bang a lot.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:57 (five years ago) Permalink

and you can find most of these albums for a couple cents on Amazon.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 20:58 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqbmgsuHcYY

This is pretty great imo - as good as anything hair metal was putting out at the time. That sounds like a backhanded compliment, but it's not, except maybe insofar as you should be able to spot the Stones in Bruce, but not the other way round.

It was a single, but a totally failed one. I'm deliberately not posting the video btw.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

surprised how many people saying how sucky IOR'n'R is...i only slightly disagree but GHS is greater suck!

epigram addict (outdoor_miner), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:07 (five years ago) Permalink

One Hit to the Body --- god I forgot about that. I remember digging that one as a kid.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:09 (five years ago) Permalink

thanks, all (but don't let that stop you from posting more). will check these when i get home. "one hit" didn't do much for me at the time, but maybe i'll like it more now.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:10 (five years ago) Permalink

surprised how many people saying how sucky IOR'n'R is...i only slightly disagree but GHS is greater suck!

GHS is brilliant, or at least half of it is, though i don't expect any of you to understand

[lights clove cigarette]

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:11 (five years ago) Permalink

GHS is really good. Angie, Winter AND Star Star on there. I mean, come on.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:12 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7r0SBb14SQ

I'm generally not a fan of Keith songs, but this one is very charming

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 21:13 (five years ago) Permalink

(I'm assuming it's a Keith number, but possibly Jagger smoked a pound of Tarmac before stepping up to the mic)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 21:14 (five years ago) Permalink

Dirty Work has "One Hit," "Hold Back," "Winning Ugly," and my favorite Keef ballad, "Sleep Tonight."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:15 (five years ago) Permalink

it is, Ismael.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:16 (five years ago) Permalink

why is "doot doot (heartbreaker)" so bad and hated? all-time for the keyboard work alone.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:27 (five years ago) Permalink

I love it, personally, it's such a groove. I pissed myself laughing when I found a live bootleg where Mick introduces it, talking really fast, as 'this one's called ... Doo-Doo-Doo Doo-Doo'

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 21:31 (five years ago) Permalink

And those horns!

Ismael Klata, Friday, 30 March 2012 21:33 (five years ago) Permalink

lol yes, that live heartbreaker intro is hilar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnlnOWGhryg

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 21:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I just heard him do that on Brussels Affair, so lol

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:35 (five years ago) Permalink

pretty amazing version after mick has his larf

tylerw, Friday, 30 March 2012 21:39 (five years ago) Permalink

based on comments itt i gotta stand up and say:
• "i got the blues" is classic for the horns alone
• "love is a bed for the blues" is as good a lyric as rock music has to offer
• and by the time it all comes together around the 3:00 mark I believe every word Jagger's corny english ass is saying. fake it so real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9zStmEmA_8

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Friday, 30 March 2012 21:54 (five years ago) Permalink

I loooooove I Got The Blues!!
I had a hard time cutting it :(

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 23:54 (five years ago) Permalink

horns are Otis-good

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 30 March 2012 23:54 (five years ago) Permalink

Sent! Was easier than I thought, but could have been 30-40 songs too.

Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 31 March 2012 03:53 (five years ago) Permalink

okay, folks, i tried with those post-undercover tracks, really i did. no go. won't trash anything in detail or by name, but not for me.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 March 2012 05:11 (five years ago) Permalink

Gotta rep for "Undercover of the Night" which still sounds awesome to these ears - crisp and exciting with those lovely falsetto ooh-oohs. Chris Kimsey and the Glimmer Twins really knew how to produce awesome sounding Stones music. I think this is why I am still not sick of "Start Me Up" - it's just such a great sounding song.

Kent Burt, Saturday, 31 March 2012 14:05 (five years ago) Permalink

Both Undercover and Heartbreaker made my list!

broom air, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:04 (five years ago) Permalink

"Heartbreaker" (sorry, DOO-DOO-DOO-DOO-DOO) made mine, "Undercover" nearly did.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:14 (five years ago) Permalink

UNDACOVAH OF DA NOIIIIGHT

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:15 (five years ago) Permalink

everyone voted for Heart Of Stone and Play With Fire, right?

gospodin simmel, Saturday, 31 March 2012 15:51 (five years ago) Permalink

I never took to that early folk side of them--I don't even think I cared for those two songs when I bought Hot Rocks as a teenager. Useless addendum: if memory serves, "Play with Fire" is Metal Mike Saunders' favourite Rolling Stones' song. Not sure what Mick Jagger's favourite Angry Samoans song is.

clemenza, Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:09 (five years ago) Permalink

Heart of Stone was one of my last cuts :(

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 16:25 (five years ago) Permalink

everyone voted for Heart Of Stone and Play With Fire, right?

umm, those were among my early cuts. it's not that i don't like them - i do! - just that i wanted to rep hard for my non-hot rocks favorites. i probably should have saved some love for play with fire, though. used to be so confused by the apparent contradiction in the "owns a block in st. john's wood" line.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:06 (five years ago) Permalink

Yeah, neither of those made my list!

broom air, Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:15 (five years ago) Permalink

Heart of Stone has always been a favorite

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:18 (five years ago) Permalink

those two are crucial early Jagger tracks for me. sort of like what Sympathy for the Devil/Let It Bleed were for the late 60's and Brown Sugar/Miss You for the 70's (I know that is chronologically flawed)

gospodin simmel, Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:27 (five years ago) Permalink

He really threw himself into his delivery in those songs, they have a real theatrical quality that I love

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:33 (five years ago) Permalink

Just submitted! Almost forgot!

da croupier, Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:36 (five years ago) Permalink

yay this poll is gonna be the BEST EVER

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:36 (five years ago) Permalink

awright croup!

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:37 (five years ago) Permalink

speaking of early covers I love their "Cry to Me."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:38 (five years ago) Permalink

"She Said Yeah" is fierce

enjoying Steel Wheels a lot as I write fwiw

Euler, Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:39 (five years ago) Permalink

their Route 66 is one of my favorite things in life

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:41 (five years ago) Permalink

I regret not giving the deep cuts on the albums I own on vinyl more of a listen (I never wear headphones when listening to LPs so they can blur compared to what I've got on CD), but with the Stones its easy to find 20 classics even if you haven't dragged the well.

da croupier, Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:43 (five years ago) Permalink

for sure

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 17:48 (five years ago) Permalink

OK I sent my ballot

ranking the 20 was surprisingly easy

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:36 (five years ago) Permalink

ballot's nearing completion & I notice that evidently I'm quite a fan of the songs that get blasted as misogynist, which I think isn't an entirely fair description but I prefer Mick's more acidic & focused lyrics, & I think women bring that out best.

Euler, Saturday, 31 March 2012 18:42 (five years ago) Permalink

I know I already linked up thread, but on that point there's some good discussion here: what is sexist exactly about the rolling stones' under my thumb?

no thread for "some girls" tho

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:07 (five years ago) Permalink

I love some girls #secretshame

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:14 (five years ago) Permalink

some girls is great and hilarious!

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:17 (five years ago) Permalink

there's some good discussion here: what is sexist exactly about the rolling stones' under my thumb?

yeah, good thread, if short - esp like kog@n's long post before the break

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:20 (five years ago) Permalink

and "some girls" is pretty damn funny, if o_0

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:22 (five years ago) Permalink

sent!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:23 (five years ago) Permalink

good man, wonder how many we've got so far?

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Saturday, 31 March 2012 19:33 (five years ago) Permalink

If anyone has lists longer than 1-20, when we get to posting our ballots please include your also-rans! I want any and all ILM deep cuts!

Iago Galdston, Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm very proud of my iconoclastic ballot; I'm pretty sure that today they're my 20 favorite Stone ballads.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

er, songs. Ballads too!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:29 (five years ago) Permalink

haha. #1 on Alfred's ballot - "Out of Tears"

tylerw, Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:31 (five years ago) Permalink

^^^ forgot that one! It's not bad.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:32 (five years ago) Permalink

i can kind of remember how it goes.

tylerw, Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:38 (five years ago) Permalink

"worried about you" is still the late-stones ballad champ, but "out of tears" ain't bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91KmtnsUtw8

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:41 (five years ago) Permalink

"Out of Tears" is lovely. Alfred and I will have terse words if he voted for "Streets of Love" though

Eisbaerg Slim (some dude), Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:43 (five years ago) Permalink

can neither confirm nor deny

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 20:50 (five years ago) Permalink

btw can we just talk about michael philip jagger's hair circa 1986?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUy8Ydq-oUA

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 21:16 (five years ago) Permalink

^ Page solo on that is astonishing.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 March 2012 21:22 (five years ago) Permalink

They should turn up the drums and background vocals on that track, christ

da croupier, Saturday, 31 March 2012 21:30 (five years ago) Permalink

I appreciate the romantic appeal of Dirty Work to some, but I think the only "boomer legends trapped in gated drum-land" artifact I'm personally enamored of is Neil's Landing On Water.

da croupier, Saturday, 31 March 2012 21:33 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost yes. 13 seconds. sounds exactly like jimmy page. video handles this section poorly imo. "there's a guitar here so let's get some shots of keef and ronnie running around"

sorta agree with da croup on this one, though the the first 30 seconds are imo as powerful and ominous as anything they've done incl the intro to "gimme shelter."

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Saturday, 31 March 2012 21:34 (five years ago) Permalink

I appreciate the romantic appeal of Dirty Work to some, but I think the only "boomer legends trapped in gated drum-land" artifact I'm personally enamored of is Neil's Landing On Water.

Oof. That one actually makes me angry, since it's the brilliant Steve Jordan being gated. Said gating ruins this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NulUOzBkjA

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 31 March 2012 21:54 (five years ago) Permalink

I don't mean Landing On Water is a genuine triumph, I just love how it sounds like an alternate reality where Crispin Glover played Crockett on Miami Vice.

da croupier, Saturday, 31 March 2012 22:20 (five years ago) Permalink

the Booming Gated Drums of Dirty Work don't sound like LAW or Never Let Me Down's or other purported period catastrophes, in part b/c Charlie isn't drumming for almost half the record (one of the Nevilles and Ronnie do the honors). It's what tiggers like Steve Lilywhite do best.

"One Hit" made my ballot.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 00:07 (five years ago) Permalink

Ballot sent!

Kent Burt, Sunday, 1 April 2012 00:55 (five years ago) Permalink

thought about putting that on my most hated

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

their last American top 40 hit!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 00:58 (five years ago) Permalink

btw if you guys wanna get a sense of how much Charlie, Keef, and Mick loathed each other in the mid eighties, watch this rehearsal footage, especially the gobsmacked journalist's response to Charlie's boredom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kilQ1qzYNc&feature=related

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:01 (five years ago) Permalink

oh jesus I had forgotten about Rock and a Hard Place. and I was so happy. Curse you Alfred

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:02 (five years ago) Permalink

wait wait wait is the choreographer Bruno from Dancing With the Stars? LOLOLOL

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:04 (five years ago) Permalink

I listened to Rock & a Hard Place today & didn't hate it as much as Gomper so it made the non-cut

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:05 (five years ago) Permalink

they won't defend Steel Wheels as a hidden masterpiece but croup and ship, a couple years younger than me, came of age when its singles were the last time MTV gave the Stones saturation play.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:09 (five years ago) Permalink

it's likable enough

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:20 (five years ago) Permalink

I liked "Mixed Emotions" enough to ask for the cassingle as a kid (wound up getting "rock and a hard place" instead, wah wah) though when I heard it again recently it sounded pretty damn weak.

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:28 (five years ago) Permalink

I just remember all those terrible music videos with Mick's pastel and primary color jackets

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:30 (five years ago) Permalink

at this point any exploration of albums after Tattoo You would be done for case study

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:30 (five years ago) Permalink

oh wait i like "She Was Hot"

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:31 (five years ago) Permalink

xpost unless your name is a) Ismael or b) Alfred

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:32 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah I couldn't go past Tattoo You, it hurt too much.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:33 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm planning on voting one Steel Wheels song

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:33 (five years ago) Permalink

if I'm in the mood for variations on "Start Me Up" I put on this album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZB7QPOABEM

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

haha I don't listen to latter-day Stones albums often! But with a couple of exceptions the post-TY albums don't disgrace their legacy like IOR&R or GHS do. If you care about admittedly boring things like craftsmanship -- and what band but the Stones insists on evaluating them for craftsmanship? -- they were better at it in the eighties and nineties. Plus, like I've said repeatedly, Dirty Work is something of a last gasp for boomer rockers raging against the dying of VIP lounges.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:40 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah I couldn't go past Tattoo You, it hurt too much.

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, March 31, 2012 9:33 PM (

no offense but this is insane to me, especially since every song but two was recorded in the seventies

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

oh wait read you wrong -- sorry

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:41 (five years ago) Permalink

GOATS HEAD SOUP IS NOT A DISGRACE

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:44 (five years ago) Permalink

But with a couple of exceptions the post-TY albums don't disgrace their legacy like IOR&R or GHS do.

There's only been a couple albums post-TY!

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:45 (five years ago) Permalink

six by my count

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:47 (five years ago) Permalink

kind of amazing, considering it's been 30+ years since TY, which was less than 20 after their debut

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:47 (five years ago) Permalink

the superb writeup of the Stones in the 1990 RS guide stressed the craft of their 80s work & pointed out how that's a judged a positive by regular fans of country & blues, genres for which the Stones had considerable sympathy

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:48 (five years ago) Permalink

plus if you have a fever, the only cure is MORE GATED DRUMS

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:49 (five years ago) Permalink

at this point any exploration of albums after Tattoo You would be done for case study

― da croupier, Saturday, March 31, 2012 6:30 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh wait i like "She Was Hot"

― da croupier, Saturday, March 31, 2012 6:31 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, undercover is semi-defensible. i like all three of the singles (including "too much blood"). any serious investment in the later albums has to be some combination of masochism, nostalgia and barefaced challops.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:50 (five years ago) Permalink

It just sounds like reheated hooks to me, and Mick's weird barky vocals really get on my nerves. To be fair, I haven't given them an earnest, non-prejudiced listen but I don't know if you understand how much it hurts to hear that stuff, given how much I loooooooooooove the 60's-70's Stones.

And I don't want danceable Stones, like nightclub dancing Stones. Outside of Miss You I can really live without that.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:50 (five years ago) Permalink

But with a couple of exceptions the post-TY albums don't disgrace their legacy like IOR&R or GHS do.

VG otm. where goats head soup is concerned, this is the basest of calumny. pistols at dawn.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:52 (five years ago) Permalink

I'm ready!

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:55 (five years ago) Permalink

Aside from Angie & Starfucker GHS is listless.

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:56 (five years ago) Permalink

GWS' flirtation with decadence sounds more jaundiced and cynical than Jagger in DW "honestly" writing and singing about his ambivalence about privilege.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:56 (five years ago) Permalink

well, duh

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:56 (five years ago) Permalink

the murky production works superbly on Angie though, you can hear other vocals, distant moans, bleeding through.

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

besides I only own butter knives not swords so let's adjust dueling terms

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:57 (five years ago) Permalink

if we were doing top 5 stone videos I'd have to throw a vote for this (sadly pulled from youtube): http://stsanders.com/www/pages/videos/band-shreds/sts-rolling-stones.php

da croupier, Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:58 (five years ago) Permalink

I hear "Angie" and think lol American critics thought Bowie was a mannered vocalist?

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 01:59 (five years ago) Permalink

it's about the piano imo, & the haunted background. isn't he singing about fucking Bowie's wife too?

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:01 (five years ago) Permalink

when we were young the story was that Mick had fucked Bowie in a threesome with Angie; maybe Rod was there with the hamster & they all got thir stomach pumped the next morning

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:02 (five years ago) Permalink

or fucking with Bowie

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:02 (five years ago) Permalink

just listened to GHS today. it's a solid fucking record. fewer great songs than what preceded but the filler is really good filler and "winter" is all-time, unless you blame it for the counting crows.

makes a nice bookend with Satanic Majesties around the crazy-mojo peak.

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:15 (five years ago) Permalink

There's nothing wrong with GHS at all, and even the 'worst' songs are nowhere near as unlistenable as the later period Stones stuff that Alfred stans for that I object to.

Winter's beautiful.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:16 (five years ago) Permalink

Goats Head Soup is better than its reputation. It's Only Rock 'n Roll, on the other hand, blows.

at this point any exploration of albums after Tattoo You would be done for case study

A Bigger Bang is great. It's one of the two or three best records they've made since 1972.

kornrulez6969, Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:22 (five years ago) Permalink

I do like Bigger Bang. I dont have any favorite tracks but I can listen to it without sadly shaking my head

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 02:23 (five years ago) Permalink

Aside from Angie & Starfucker GHS is listless.

― Euler, Saturday, March 31, 2012 6:56 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

list is not high on my list of priorities for a good stones tune

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Sunday, 1 April 2012 04:52 (five years ago) Permalink

Submitted my HR-heavy ballot - in the end I just didn't have much desire to hunt down great album tracks that I know I'll get around to eventually. The problem is that I've known and loved the obvious selections on that comp for so long that it would take weeks or months of repeated listens for me to feel similarly about a deep cut here or there. I could vote for tracks I heard and liked based on recommendations ITT, but that would mean bumping songs I've cherished for a dozen years or more. Think it's more important to be honest about what you love.

do dat do dat do do dat dat dat (thewufs), Sunday, 1 April 2012 15:40 (five years ago) Permalink

The making of "One Hit" video, it should be noted, was filmed right in the middle of Charlie's short but very intense drug phase.

Three Word Username, Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:45 (five years ago) Permalink

I was gonna say, he seemed to be in pretty bad shape in that interview. Every other interview of his I've seen, he's been extremely gregarious and engaging.

Dancing with Mr. T (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 1 April 2012 16:54 (five years ago) Permalink

<3 charlie. "short but very intense" is the way to do yr drug phase, imo. so long you come out ok on the other end.

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:04 (five years ago) Permalink

TWO HOUR WARNING -- GET THOSE BALLOTS IN

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:18 (five years ago) Permalink

LET YER VOICE BE HEARD

http://i42.tinypic.com/33o7kno.jpg

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:18 (five years ago) Permalink

bwahaha

PUT ON YOUR SEQUINED BOLERO JACKETS, PEOPLE; SHIT'S GONNA GET REAL

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:19 (five years ago) Permalink

Done.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:20 (five years ago) Permalink

encouraged by all these last minute balloting, should have a p good turnout

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:28 (five years ago) Permalink

let's get this party started!

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:52 (five years ago) Permalink

yeah, 491-500 NOW!

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Sunday, 1 April 2012 20:59 (five years ago) Permalink

so amazing getting to see the super-8 footage that Frank used to make the Exile cover art

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lNP-x94-SE

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:03 (five years ago) Permalink

I think I've sent mine but my internet connection has been a bit shaky so shout if it hasn't arrived!

Valéry Giscard d'Staind (NickB), Sunday, 1 April 2012 21:17 (five years ago) Permalink

finalmente sent; hope I made the deadline

Euler, Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:43 (five years ago) Permalink

I actually have to step out for a few so I'm fine with stragglers trickling in until 10pm PST

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Sunday, 1 April 2012 22:49 (five years ago) Permalink

cool, gonna do a 2nd ballot

Whiney Houson (WmC), Sunday, 1 April 2012 23:01 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIE2GAqnFGw

Brad C., Sunday, 1 April 2012 23:15 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GugjdJzMePw

balls, Sunday, 1 April 2012 23:22 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA9-YQq1GKw

balls, Sunday, 1 April 2012 23:28 (five years ago) Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEjAAVJ7A8s

balls, Sunday, 1 April 2012 23:32 (five years ago) Permalink

Man I wish I had included "Rocks Off" on my ballot

Iago Galdston, Sunday, 1 April 2012 23:40 (five years ago) Permalink

I changed mind, imma do an all Steel Wheels/Voodoo Lounge ballot.

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 00:51 (five years ago) Permalink

POLLS ARE CLOSED

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 2 April 2012 05:07 (five years ago) Permalink

soooooooooo exciting

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 April 2012 05:16 (five years ago) Permalink

how many you get, roger?

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 06:05 (five years ago) Permalink

not enough to give bowie a scare but solid

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 2 April 2012 06:11 (five years ago) Permalink

some bum news: pulled jury duty tomorrow so may have some challenges posting in a nice steady stream. may compensate by releasing "most hated" tonight...

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 2 April 2012 06:17 (five years ago) Permalink

guess that's kinda ironic huh?

all yoga attacks are fire based (rogermexico.), Monday, 2 April 2012 06:26 (five years ago) Permalink

Can't you get a witness to do it?

Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 April 2012 06:30 (five years ago) Permalink

Possibly they've been around and I just didn't notice, but I've been amused to see the ads for goat's head soup mix that seem to be on a lot of the subways this week. Maybe it's a sign...

http://www.buygracefoods.com/site/product.cfm?id=mannish_water_ram_goat_soup_mix

dlp9001, Monday, 2 April 2012 06:52 (five years ago) Permalink

"mannish water"

a day of learning then

preternatural concepts concerning variances in sound and texture (contenderizer), Monday, 2 April 2012 06:58 (five years ago) Permalink


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