dgaf if it's not confirmed yet or what the demo sounded like, that's the best album title of 2012 and i am standing and applauding her. bitch still has it
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
The music had better match up to the title.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
get ready for dubstep Madonna
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ Worst case scenario possible.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
apparently it is confirmed now
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
Get ready for Madonna's film version King Edward VIII's abdication.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
you know what would be great, is if she got hooked up with Lone
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:35 (twelve years ago) link
MDNA totally looks like some kind of move towards dubstep, but I'm praying DJP and I are wrong.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
i wouldn't be surprised if it was dubstep but what about MDNA codes dubstep?!
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
The 'Music' hitmaker revealed the title of her twelfth studio album this afternoon (11.01.12), in an interview with TV host Graham Norton in the UK, and also confirmed she will be going on tour again later this year.She said: "I just have to pay the rent. A girl has to make a living, but truthfully I do enjoy it. Touring is the most rewarding of all my jobs."The release of 'MDNA' has been marred slightly by the leak of an early version of the first single, 'Gimme All Your Luvin' in November last year, for which a Spanish man was arrested in December.Referring to the leak Madonna joked: "It's soon. It depends how quickly people hack in to my server and leak it. Can people wait? It's terrible."Madonna is also set to play the Super Bowl XLVI Half Time Show in February, where she is expected to debut 'Gimme All Your Luvin', which is rumoured to feature Nicki Minaj and M.I.A.The track has also been listed for radio play in the US in February, with a public release expected to follow shortly afterward. A release date for the album has yet to be confirmed.
She said: "I just have to pay the rent. A girl has to make a living, but truthfully I do enjoy it. Touring is the most rewarding of all my jobs."
The release of 'MDNA' has been marred slightly by the leak of an early version of the first single, 'Gimme All Your Luvin' in November last year, for which a Spanish man was arrested in December.
Referring to the leak Madonna joked: "It's soon. It depends how quickly people hack in to my server and leak it. Can people wait? It's terrible."
Madonna is also set to play the Super Bowl XLVI Half Time Show in February, where she is expected to debut 'Gimme All Your Luvin', which is rumoured to feature Nicki Minaj and M.I.A.
The track has also been listed for radio play in the US in February, with a public release expected to follow shortly afterward. A release date for the album has yet to be confirmed.
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhVtnBgbRhI&feature=related
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:41 (twelve years ago) link
MDNA totally codes towards hands-in-the-air euphoria rather than dubstep, which I had automatically assumed would be a good thing. Then I remembered that this will be the first post-Gaga, post-Guetta Madonna album and thought twice about it. Would guess any dubstep will be confined to a middle eight here and there but who knows really.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
ha just as I read Matt's post, the song hit the dubstep bridge
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i read it as a MDMA pun predominantly
― Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
man, will she stop with this shit
― frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
is that youtube the demo that leaked a while back? b/c i don't want to hear that again
it's a triple pun right? her own name, mdma + referring to a generation of fans and artists who have her in their dna
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
is taking MDMA and listening to dubstep something people do? b/c it sounds like a horrible experience to me
― frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
huh, reminds me of the nicola roberts record
sorry lex
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
right - weed is the dubstep drug of choice surely. mdma + dubstep = DNW
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
A girl has to make a living.
― lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
that's why i don't want to hear it again, it was terrible and i TRUST that she will change everything about it before it's fit for public consumption
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
It's a newer, more polished leak apparently. It sounds like a rejected Fefe Dobson song with a dubstep bridge to me.
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
like Matt I read the MDMA bit of it as indicating something Housier and more fun than dubstep
― Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
xxp: Lex, you're talking about someone who released "Give It To Me" as a single, on what grounds are you basing this trust
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
also MIA and Nicki on one track? it's a bit blatant/desperate
oh and yeah agree about the "DNA" part of it too
― Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:49 (twelve years ago) link
MIA's probably the most desperate one in that equation.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link
just think Madge cd've picked a subtler way to tell us she's "with it"
― Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:46 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
but Lex--all the nuubsteppers are into the "rave scene"!!!
― it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
memories receding ever rapidly into the past ;_;
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (twelve years ago) link
Her best titles are always based on her name - her debut, Like A Virgin, Like a Prayer, The Immaculate Collection, even COADF, and now this. It's already been said but she really does have the fucking luckiest name in music history.
I'm just hoping the first single is a red herring built around the Superbowl and album is actually destroys.
― prolego, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
*the album is
weed + madonna + dubstep does not sound terrible if her vocals are produced right
― surm, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
There's a bit of that new song that sounds a lot like 'Bohemian Like You'
― Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
i.e. terrible
^yeah
― it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
"The release of 'MDNA' has been marred slightly by the leak of an early version of the first single, 'Gimme All Your Luvin' in November last year, for which a Spanish man was arrested in December."
Gosh, it must have been a really terrible version.
― Oh shit, that's my bone! (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
Man, that could be a mediocre single from any number of acts. But mostly sounds like peppy Britney, c. Toxic.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
not a zz top cover i take it
― goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
Is that Genesis P Orridge in the You Tube up thread?
― Doran, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:56 (twelve years ago) link
the dubstep middle 8 is the most hilarious musical development of the past year
― thug eclair (The Reverend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:56 (twelve years ago) link
Perhaps a bridge too far to think that the MDMA pun would have any relationship to the style of the music - Madonna doubtless is just pleased that it codes as youthful, electronic etc.
If you take a really wide lens approach that basically thinks of MDNA as = young people at raves then perhaps she ought to have gotten Skrillex to produce the whole thing.
OTOH her last single was produced by Paul Oakenfold and had appropriately euphoric aspirations (also was not very good).
― Tim F, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe it's time for more ABBA samples.
― skip, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
madonna + dubstep = lou reed + metallica
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:32 (twelve years ago) link
She should do an album with The Knife and Planningtorock
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
most importantly every single video should include her treating a DDR machine like a stripper pole IMO
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
Is there even any indication that that dubstep-breakdown-thing is part of an official release?
― sean gramophone, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://foreverydaypeople.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/prml.jpg
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:11 (twelve years ago) link
If it's a triple pun, it may be the first triple pun in pop music since "12 Inches of Snow."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:14 (twelve years ago) link
such a limp stab at a dubstep bridge too. sounds like it was made by some pop producer who tried to approximate skrillex using keyboard presets and doesn't actually know how to work an lfo.
― the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:25 (twelve years ago) link
Is there a dubstep template in Garageband yet?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:28 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe she could get MSTRKRFT, BNJMN, SBTRKT and other producers who hate vowels on board.
― "only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
KMFDM too.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:44 (twelve years ago) link
kissing my...?
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:45 (twelve years ago) link
Kein Mehrheit Für Die Mitleid
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:48 (twelve years ago) link
or rather, Keine Mehrheit Für Das Mitleid
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:49 (twelve years ago) link
It's German disco, Lex. Kinda.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
(Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit would make more sense)
― Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:36 PM (1 hour ago)
^^^
― teledyldonix, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (twelve years ago) link
I had this disc and never thought about the title much but wow that is good
― frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2012 00:04 (twelve years ago) link
All these producer ideas are terrible at a time when the phone presumably still hasn't rung for Dennis Ferrer and Quentin Harris.
Pretty sure I read that the album was being produced by Martin Solveig? Which isn't terrible but isn't exactly very exciting either.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:35 (twelve years ago) link
KMFDM = Kill MotherFucking Depeche Mode
― DavidM, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
xpost Unless it all sounds like "Rocking Music".
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:22 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe she should just make a lolspk moombahton album like Nadia Oh's.
― "only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:01 (twelve years ago) link
martin solveig is definitely terrible, think i'd rather skrillex
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:22 (twelve years ago) link
i don't think madge's voice is quite up to dennis ferrer/quentin harris levels of production though - they best frame house/r&b divas who can BELT IT OUT.
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:23 (twelve years ago) link
Quentin Harris? Calvin Harris more like
― Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:24 (twelve years ago) link
Isn't this being produced by William Orbit?
― lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
KMFDM = Knights In Satan's Service
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
Y'all make me think this'll be her Blackout.
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link
she had her blackout already in 1992
― prolego, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:25 (twelve years ago) link
OTMFM
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.billboard.com/news/madonna-on-born-this-way-interesting-redo-1005865552.story#/news/madonna-on-born-this-way-interesting-redo-1005865552.story
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Friday, 13 January 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
Madonna invites Azari & III to support her on her new tour
― sean-paul sartre (flopson), Saturday, 14 January 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
o_O that's awesome! wonder if they're on the album....
― I had to google gucci mane (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, German disco. Riiight.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
everything about this era is looking up apart from, er, that bloody demo
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Saturday, 14 January 2012 19:29 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ "anzari" btw, gordon "smart" strikes again
Aziz Ansari doing a half-hour of standup before a Madonna show would be a great night out.
― do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Saturday, 14 January 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
azari & iii would be ideal producers for her, too
― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Saturday, 14 January 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
http://i40.tinypic.com/k4406.jpg
so she's seriously running with this whole mdma thing.
― prolego, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
is it wrong that my first reaction to that was to silently cheer inside that we can't see her crotch
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:51 (twelve years ago) link
my cousin who is a borderline stalker re madonna has confirmed this.
― mark e, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:37 (twelve years ago) link
i like that artworknothing screams madonna comeback like a private-dance stripper-milf portraut
― nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:54 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=cItHOl5LRWg
― Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
o god afraid to watch it
― surm, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
youtube urls are really annoying these days
― Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
LMMFAO
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
for whatever reason i was expecting it to be more dancey than pop.
why is m.i.a even on this? her contribution is practically zero.
blonde nicki minaj disturbs me even more than half animal nicki minaj for some reason.
― pandemic, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:16 (twelve years ago) link
mia does look spectacular at the start though.
― pandemic, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
also not sure why madonna is breast feeding a doll thru a leopard print bra.
― pandemic, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:20 (twelve years ago) link
ffs
― surm, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
the video (or at least the snippets I watched, curse you open floorplan) >>>>>>>>>>>> the song
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:21 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know what she did between the demo and this but i like it a lot more. getting a bit of a "beautiful stranger" vibe. i don't think it's GREAT or anything but i am too hungover to listen again.
video works, nicki was excellent
this was the better of the two m.i.a. videos that came out today
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit @ M.I.A's video
man I hope she didn't put a Chris Brown song on her album
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
well that's something
― the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
re the new song/video: hey, that's kind of fun. silly but fun, and i don't even particularly care for madonna. chorus reminds me strongly of the dandy warhols' "bohemian like you", but that's okay, i love that song.
― adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
LOADS better than almost all of Hard Candy and, you know, American Life and suchlike. i must see her live this time.
kinda 0_o that MIA would *actually* cheerlead Madonna but what the hey.
― piscesx, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:33 (twelve years ago) link
LOADS better than almost all of Hard Candy
yeah well duh
and, you know, American Life
um that album had "die another day" and "nothing fails" and indeed the title track on it - this is def not better than those
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
nicki's really good at finding mediocre songs to steal
― da croupier, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:50 (twelve years ago) link
i don't know if i've ever heard her on a track where the question "should someone burst in on this doing a high speed slick rick imitation?" wouldn't be met with "sure, why not, can't make it worse"
― da croupier, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
"88 takes and that's the one madonna looked least tired in"
― da croupier, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:55 (twelve years ago) link
might be her best album cover you know? i'm hoping for Confessions.. Volume 2 but i'm sure it won't be. i wish she was still working with Jacques Lu Cont.
coulda sworn someone would have said 'M.i.a.' in response to this questionWhich producers/musicians should Madonna work with turns out said thread ended in 2003!
― piscesx, Friday, 3 February 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
ha, this is terrible!
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link
Well, she certainly got everyone's attention.
I don't even know what to expect Saturday.
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link
Zomg the chorus bit sounds EXACTLY like the verses to "Bohemian Like You". Excellent call.
This really isn't very good. I mean, it's better than "4 Minutes", but.. uh yeah, it's probably worse than every song off American Life.
― this pooper, give it to her in the christmas (edwardo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, it's worse than "Hollywood".
― this pooper, give it to her in the christmas (edwardo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link
Good God that rap in the middle is HORRID.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 4 February 2012 06:03 (twelve years ago) link
No way is this better than "4 Minutes"
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:37 (twelve years ago) link
tracklisting
- Girls Gone Wild - Gang Bang - I'm Addicted - Some Girls - I Don't Give A - Turn Up the Radio - Give Me All Your Luvin' - B-day Song - Superstar - I'm a Sinner - Masterpiece - Falling Free - Love Spent - I Fucked Up - Beautiful Killer
― piscesx, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
that's hilarious
― Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:46 (twelve years ago) link
see i don't know if that's for real or not.gang bang?
― pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:00 (twelve years ago) link
ay tis real alright. http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/mdna-deluxe-edition/id499007632
there's a *pre order only* exclusive bonus track too; so like.. a song you can only get if you order before the release date. that's a new one on me.
― piscesx, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
jeezus, it IS 4real.
b-day song!!!
― pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
She fucked up
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:11 (twelve years ago) link
Lana Del Rey's tracklisting reads better than this tbh
― Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
Fresh manure for the zing garden
― flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:30 (twelve years ago) link
DRDFL
― Jeff W, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:31 (twelve years ago) link
DNFW MDNA WTF LOL
― Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link
- I'm Addicted (Simple Plan cover)- Some Girls (Rolling Stones cover)- Turn Up the Radio (Autograph cover)- Give Me All Your Luvin' (ZZ Top cover)- B-day Song (traditional)- Superstar (Carpenters cover)- Masterpiece (Atlantic Starr cover)
― da croupier, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
is this confirmed dubstep yet
― lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
Lourdes hasn't left her room since the tracklisting was revealed
― da croupier, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
oh and
Gang Bang (Sensational Alex Harvey Band cover)
― da croupier, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
Bidet Song
― ‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
cannot stop laughing at "I Fucked Up"
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:59 (twelve years ago) link
Just heard the single. Nothing special, but at least it ain't dubstep.
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
I liked this song a lot better when it was called "What the Hell" and it was by Avril Lavigne.
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:32 (twelve years ago) link
L-U-V MadonnaY-O-U You wanna
parents are soooo embarrassing
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:28 (twelve years ago) link
It has a dubstep-lite break in the middle.
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
Just watched the video for the first time. Song's okay, video's better. I'm not sure why there's breast-feeding, but it's pretty funny. When did old people start enlisting young people to keep up appearances? Neil Young/Pearl Jam...Aretha/George Michael...Neil Young/Devo--how far back does that go?
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
Bing Crosby/David Bowie
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
Frank Sinatra/Nancy Sinatra
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx4nczgV4W1qzpiyuo1_500.jpg
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/6b009a86115129dbdefc0defec76fe9b/3300919.jpg
― Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
Nice! Sincerely wondering this in terms of pop music, though. I don't think any of the '50s guys--Elvis, Berry, etc.--ever actually engaged in this sort of thing, at least not on record, unless I'm forgetting something; they did get career boosts from things like Lennon's Rock and Roll Revival show. Mitigating factors aside, Frank and Nancy might be a good starting point.
http://swizzworld.com/living/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/basquiatWarhol.jpg
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
Anyway, while Nicki Minaj doesn't need the visibility, I'm sure MIA gets more out of Madonna than vice versa.
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
oh man, i totally disagree with thatunless you mean how much she got paid
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
I meant something more like who's a bigger help to whom in terms of widening her current audience. Just guessing. I was probably thinking of my grade 6 class: 100% of them know who Nicki Minaj is, two-thirds know Madonna, and I'd be surprised if even half have heard of MIA. But that's a pretty narrow perspective, so you're probably right.
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
I see no way in which Madonna gets more out of an MIA guest appearance than MIA gets out of guesting on a Madonna single
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:18 (twelve years ago) link
(IOW forks=crazypants)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:19 (twelve years ago) link
dan are you seriously suggesting that the woman who won an oscar for best song in a movie and who rapped with kanye and jay at the grammys while she was pregnant is desperately in need for exposure?
Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties. Nicki and MIA have FOUR BARS apiece on this track. They are there as a sap to those two audiences; no one is gonna listen to that madge track and say, hey I should check this MIA chick out!
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:26 (twelve years ago) link
Mid-90s? Hung up came out in 2005
― just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:30 (twelve years ago) link
lol, i had to google it.yeah i guess you're right there but it looks like a burp to me
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:32 (twelve years ago) link
U r crazy then
― just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
okay.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:33 (twelve years ago) link
i don't rate much madonna past ray of light really. i'd like to?
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link
Hung up is just super classic to me
― just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
x2
― ‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
I think we can assume that both MIA and Madonna were happy to help each other, and found this collaboration to be mutually beneficial.
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link
apparently the remix of this track will feature LMFAO, let's debate who's winning there
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link
i hope we can all agree it's not the listening public
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link
dan are you seriously suggesting that the woman who won an oscar for best song in a movie and who rapped with kanye and jay at the grammys while she was pregnant is desperately in need for exposure?Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties. Nicki and MIA have FOUR BARS apiece on this track. They are there as a sap to those two audiences; no one is gonna listen to that madge track and say, hey I should check this MIA chick out!
You are massively underselling/misunderstanding Madonna's position in pop music. The woman is a still-working pop legend; the appearance of both Nicki and MIA on this are pandering moves to current pop and indie dance audiences but the reason they both said yes* is because IT'S FUCKING MADONNA.
* though in fairness, Nicki would have said yes if it was Diamanda Galas; she seems to be addicted to guest spots
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:53 (twelve years ago) link
it's also noteworthy these ladies did not just sign up to rap for twenty seconds but walk behind madonna in cheerleader outfits shouting "L-U-V! MADONNA!"
― da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
x3
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:05 (twelve years ago) link
Gimme All Your Luv has some similarities with Beautiful Stranger and Amazing from the Music album. If the album is kind of like that then I would get more excited it for it.
I do wonder why she is going back to her Bridget Bardot/Truth or Dare pale look though.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
the reason they both said yes* is because IT'S FUCKING MADONNA.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:27 (twelve years ago) link
lilbro: i agree with you except those were the parts of Music I found most unlistenable
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:28 (twelve years ago) link
Are you serious? Those were the highlights for me. His more lean production with the electric guitar is why I love that album. A great balance to what would've been a preening, pretentious synth album.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link
i had to fire up music for the first time in like six years to check but yeah i LIKED the preening, pretentious synth elements!
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:37 (twelve years ago) link
yeah they were great at the time when she was doing it when it initially released but they can get irksome if not in the right mood. Plus, I do miss listening to Madonna with a guitar/bass/piano/whatever rockist boring instrument every once in a while.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:40 (twelve years ago) link
Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties
I'd push that a little forward to include Music, but I basically agree. Which is not an aesthetic judgement on the the two or three albums that followed, and I love lots of music made by people who are on the other side of their moment or whatever you want to call it.
― clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:52 (twelve years ago) link
The other side of their moment usually equals to young pop fans who can't fathom listening to someone past the age of 25.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
try listening to it? that's be a start
ehhh these people need a slap but it might not be worth the effort as they'll learn anyway
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:15 (twelve years ago) link
does anyone under the age of 40 who isn't a music critic or film critic or industry flack pay attention to these awards
― mh, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:39 (twelve years ago) link
uh, lex I did? I liked Music fine but it felt flimsy; American Life was terrible and after two listens Hard Candy left zero impact. Hung Up was, what, '08? I only vaguely remember it; it was clearly not for me.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:40 (twelve years ago) link
mh: everyone who buys us or people or star or whatever the hell sure does. She was watermelon big at the grammys, it got a lot of press. the oscar thing with rahman was huge international news for like a week.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:41 (twelve years ago) link
iirc Music was one of the last commercial bootleg discs i bought from a guy on the street
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:42 (twelve years ago) link
do people listen or buy music based on those, though? I dunno, I guess they might
― mh, Monday, 6 February 2012 00:15 (twelve years ago) link
Did she just slip on the bleachers?
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 February 2012 01:05 (twelve years ago) link
MIA giving the finger! that was the highlight for me anyway.
― piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 01:19 (twelve years ago) link
Better than LMFAO and the guy on the tightrope I guess
― curmudgeon, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:13 (twelve years ago) link
feel like 25 year old me woulda had a conniption fit at cee-lo and madonna singing like a prayer at the superbowl. ten years later the thrill is gone.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
WOLD PEACE lol
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:14 (2 days ago)
prescient
― Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
supposedly the network tried to blur the finger a second late!
― piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
yep, it was clear
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:19 (twelve years ago) link
Potential mixtape title: Man on W.I.R.E.
― ‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
They should have blurred LMFAO instead
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
wow. she sucked.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:24 (twelve years ago) link
Blech
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 6 February 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
i was laughing my ass off at the cleopatra intro, it was so absurd. everything else sucked
― Assmaster (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:46 (twelve years ago) link
Why do you think she sucked? I thought that was the second most entertaining halftime show of the past decade after Prince (which is fitting, really)
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:55 (twelve years ago) link
D-I-E MADONNA
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:04 (twelve years ago) link
nicki minaj and mia poor sods
actually half time show wa decent dan, hate madonna bending ppl who should know better to her will, but shur tis all about da moolah
― Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:05 (twelve years ago) link
dan, mostly because of song choices i guess (i think Music sucks, and I think whatever that new pile of crap is, is crap), and Vogue didnt really get a fair shake with the medley treatment. from a production standpoint it was pretty good though
― Assmaster (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:31 (twelve years ago) link
I enjoyed the show. I especially liked the Vogue and Open My Heart parts. If people weren't going to like it then why watch it? I guess hate watching is the thing to do.
― Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:47 (twelve years ago) link
i was watching the game and didnt feel like changing the channel during halftime.
― Assmaster (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:51 (twelve years ago) link
i didn't watch it to hate it. it just happened.
― "bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:59 (twelve years ago) link
i don't have much invested in madonna at this point. and i hate pro sports w/passion. still i wanted to like this. honestly it reeked of desperation. nikki! MIA!! pom-poms!!! medley!!!! C-LO!!!!! gospel choir!!!!! WORLD PEACE
and seeing her cavort with those LMFAO goons was flat-out depressing
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Monday, 6 February 2012 10:41 (twelve years ago) link
had to laugh at LMFAO pretending to use Pioneer CDJs live, miming doing a loop on them.
― piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 11:37 (twelve years ago) link
haha I didn't even think about that ^
― crüt, Monday, 6 February 2012 11:38 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't think it was awful. I liked "Open Your Heart" too but wished she'd done Express Yourself. Anyway, like A Prayer is one of my favorite songs so I was pretty excited about that. Think it's pretty clear that the star was totally that crazy tightrope walking guy.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:06 (twelve years ago) link
I loved it except for "Like a Prayer" (a song I've never liked, so it wasn't the performance). Thought "Vogue" was fantastic, "Music" was great because of LMFAO, and after first thinking the new video saved a just slightly-better-than-average song, I'm now really starting to take to the song. Back when Madonna was going through her outrage-a-week phase in early '90s, I wrote a couple of times about how manufactured I thought her Sam Kinison routine on Letterman was. I think it's funny how in 2012, she now delegates her controversies!
― clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:33 (twelve years ago) link
She did slip in a little "Open Your Heart"...just a few seconds, though, right?
― clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:34 (twelve years ago) link
May as well post this while it's up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROkhklj0ZGs
― clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:37 (twelve years ago) link
xp yeah reading a transcript in Q mag of that Letterman interview was a bit of an off-the-bus moment for me with Madge until Ray Of Light came out. actually *watching* the clip years later on You Tube i realised that she looked really messed up and miserable and kinda out-of-control.
― piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
AM I nuts or did she almost fall back a bit when she was on the bleacher things at one point. I swear I saw it but nobody else I was watching with seemed to.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:50 (twelve years ago) link
"sucked" is too harsh. I didn't care for the dance routines; she looked distracted. Maybe she thought the centurion belt was as fetching as I did.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:53 (twelve years ago) link
I read an account this morning that said she had a misstep at one point, so that must have been it. I missed it, or else I just thought she was, uh, voguing.
― clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:54 (twelve years ago) link
Watching it now. New single sounds fantastic. Love Nicki & MIA's expressions when they're crossing pom-poms.
"WORLD PEACE" is a classic banality bomb.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Monday, 6 February 2012 13:00 (twelve years ago) link
OK yeah I just saw a replay on the news - she definitely nearly fell backwards. She did recover quickly tho.
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 13:04 (twelve years ago) link
She's a true professional
― da croupier, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:54 (twelve years ago) link
And while I'm tempted to ask why she bothers, that Jay Leno and Jerry Seinfeld bother is an even bigger question
― da croupier, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:56 (twelve years ago) link
that was fun! just watched it. like a prayer 4ever.
― scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, February 6, 2012 7:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah i saw it too
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
pretty pissed that she didn't do "hung up"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 15:24 (twelve years ago) link
Huh, that was OK. Superbowl halftime is like the closest we can come as a country to true OTT Euro-style spectacle. I'm sure the crowd and audience alike would have been better entertained by one of those full-on drum, cheer and dance corp LMFAO renditions, though.
Hung Up would have been a better choice than Music.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:25 (twelve years ago) link
that wasn't bad. not life-changing but enjoyable - she looked relaxed, which she hasn't for a while, and that was a strong selection from her back catalogue.
i like "music" better than "hung up", i think. or about the same. both classics!
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
I've always thought Music was lame. Don't Tell Me ftw.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:39 (twelve years ago) link
"music" was her last US megahit. "hung up" wasn't really super bowl setslist-level big.
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
"Hung Up" also went platinum and "4 Minutes" went double-platinum according to Wikipedia
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:44 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but "music" is the closest thing to "vogue"-level universal she's made in the last x years
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
and she wasn't gonna do TWO post-'90s hits in addition to the new single, so "music" it is
I have never liked "Music".
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
"Music mix the bourgeoisie and the rebels"#OccupySuperBowl
― ‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:48 (twelve years ago) link
i don't like "Music" either, i'm just saying it's ridic to even expect "Hung Up"
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
I think you're underselling how successful "Hung Up" was:
"Hung Up" peaked at number one in charts of 41 countries and earning a 2007 place in the Guinness Book of World Records, as the song topping the charts in most countries.[27] It also remains one of the best-selling singles of all time, with sales of over nine million copies worldwide.[28] In the United States, "Hung Up" debuted at twenty on the Billboard Hot 100 on the issue dated November 5, 2005. It became her highest opening position since "Ray of Light" entered the chart at five in 1998. The same week the song entered the Hot Digital Songs chart at number six and became the highest debuting single of the week on the Pop 100 Airplay, where it debuted at thirty-eight.[29] On the issue dated December 7, 2005, the song entered the top ten of the Billboard Hot 100 at seven, which became its peak, jumping from position fourteen of the previous week. The song became the chart's greatest digital gainer for that week and claimed the top position on the Hot Digital Songs chart.[30] It also tied Madonna with Elvis Presley for thirty-six top ten hits,[31] which was subsequently broken by Madonna's 2008 song "4 Minutes", which peaked at three on the Hot 100. "Hung Up" debuted at numbers twenty-five and ten on the Hot Dance Club Play and Hot Dance Airplay charts respectively ultimately reaching the top of both charts.[32][33][34] It became the most successful dance song of the 2000s in the United States, by topping the Dance/Club Play Songs Decade-end chart.[35] The song also reached a peak of seven on the Pop 100 chart.[32] On August 18, 2008, the single was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America for selling at least a million copies in paid digital downloads.[36] As of April 2010, the song has sold 1.2 million digital units in the United States.[37]
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
although I would have really lolled if she's done "4 Minutes":
In the United States, "4 Minutes" debuted at number sixty-eight on the Billboard Hot 100 chart for the issue dated April 5, 2008, based solely on airplay.[21] Within a week, the song had jumped sixty-five places, reaching number three on the chart. This leap was spurred by first-week digital sales of 217,000, enabling the song to enter Billboard's Digital chart at number two, behind Mariah Carey's single "Touch My Body". The song became Madonna's first top-ten single since "Hung Up" (2005), and was her thirty-seventh Hot 100 top-ten hit, breaking the record previously held by Elvis Presley.[22] "4 Minutes" was also her highest-charting single on the Hot 100 since "Music" reached the top of the chart in 2000. For Timberlake, "4 Minutes" became his ninth top-ten hit.[23] On the Pop 100 chart, the song reached a peak of two.[24] "4 Minutes" was a success on Billboard's dance charts, topping both the Hot Dance Club Play and the Hot Dance Airplay charts.[25][26] Four months after its release, "4 Minutes" was certified double platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for sales of two million paid digital downloads. It is her second single to achieve multi-platinum certification, after "Vogue" (1990), and it is one of her best-selling songs in the United States.[27] As of September 2010, it had sold 2.8 million digital downloads in the United States.[28] "4 Minutes" was the tenth most downloaded song in the United States in 2008, according to Nielsen SoundScan.[29] In Canada, Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems (BDS) confirmed that "4 Minutes" debuted at the top of the Canadian Contemporary Hit Radio chart. This marked the first time any song entered at the top of the CHR chart in BDS history.[30] The song debuted at number twenty-seven on the Canadian Hot 100 on March 27, 2008,[31] and topped the chart the next week.[32] The song spent nine non-consecutive weeks at the top of the chart.[33]
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
i know it was successful, i'm saying "Music" was more successful, especially in the U.S.
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
well thank god she didn't play "4 minutes"
― J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link
if a superstar with a deep catalog is playing a high profile event for like 15 minutes, you can bet 'the biggest song from two or three albums ago' is not on the agenda
― some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
never forget:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZ3A06Wkdc
― omar little, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
People complaining about the medley aspect obviously haven't watched a Super Bowl halftime show in the past decade.
I thought she looked pretty good and was having fun.
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
this was pretty fun and ridiculous and p much exactly what you'd expect from a super bowl halftime show
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ otm
But my favorite Madonna moment of the weekend was the Guy Fieri sketch on SNL when his Madonna tribue dish was a "weird bucket of mussels".
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
I thought it was sloppy and ridic and that she wasn't taking it v seriously, also way lol @ slipping on bleachers. That's not to say I didn't love it
― tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
<i>the Guy Fieri sketch on SNL when his Madonna tribue dish was a "weird bucket of mussels".</i>
YES this was hilarious.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
rare_basement Amber Eeeeeee hmm i hear madonna is old and has arms, interesting16 hours ago Unfavorite Retweet Reply
― quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
After finally watching the superbowl thing, felt like the new song had the most energy by far, which is nice. The Give Me All Your Luvin' video is kind of disjointed, which put me off at first, but it's a good song.
Weird how between Parkour and Slacklining and Gymnastics and so on, Madonna is like a one-woman physical fitness ad for people who'll probably never progress past M's Tracy Anderson phase.
― dlp9001, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:57 (twelve years ago) link
cosign on Stevie D's comments 100%
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
except i "loved" it
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:04 (twelve years ago) link
btw, i always thought it was "music makes the bourgeois have a revel" is it really "music mixed the bourgeois and the rebels"?
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
music makes the bourgeoisie and the rebel
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:07 (twelve years ago) link
oh. see i was gonna say that didn't make any sense but man madonna is making me *think*
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
lex, do you like to boogie woogie?
makes them do WHAT????? god that always left me hangin
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
(also I think "music makes the bourgeois have a revel" was hella more appropriate both for madge in general and the superbowl in particular)
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:09 (twelve years ago) link
tracer: i am assuming she is saying Music is what leads to the creation of both the bourgeois class and of rebels against it
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
i like to singy singy singylike a bird on the wingy wingy wingy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khEcPEi2GNs
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:11 (twelve years ago) link
*thinks*
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
Music makes the bourgeoises want to rebel?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
i'd forgotten that music is half a really amazing album (and half totally inessential but whatever). "impressive instant", "paradise (not for me)", "runaway lover">>>>>>>
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:31 (twelve years ago) link
yeah it's good, not "kaputt" good, but def good
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
ggnnnnnggghhhh
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
hahaha
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link
When I was little I thought it "Music makes the boys run free. And, the rebel.
― tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
lots of boys and one (1) rebel, running free, together
― tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
at a superbowl halftime show. forever.
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
wtf was the deal with the sword fight sfx during "vogue"?
― the arm (NZA), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
"Hung Up" was massive everywhere in the world except the US, where it peaked in the top ten but tumbled quickly
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
That's because the rest of the world loves ABBA a million times more than the US ever did. Though if the song sampled "Dancing Queen" it'd be a different story.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
There's truth to that. Timing didn't help: if she'd released "Hung Up" after Mamma Mia it might have worked -- or asked Meryl Streep to sing it.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
It's also because US radio wasn't playing dance music in 2005.
― LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/terminal05/2012/2/5/23/anigif_enhanced-buzz-17241-1328503166-24.gif
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:51 (twelve years ago) link
that dude was very impressive in showing America all the different way a man can rack himself on a tightrope
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
That dude was the best.
http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/2/5/23/anigif_enhanced-buzz-17172-1328503210-36.gif
(Just stealing those from the spbwl thread now but I can't not because they're so good - thanks Am0n)
― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link
i loved the little sha-shingggggg sword sounds in vogue!
also that was a "slack rope" fyi
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:07 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i imagine it was when he got home too
― ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:10 (twelve years ago) link
"Boring game. Also, I don't understand that twenty minute musical commercial for Walking Dead at halftime."- Walter Chaw's (of Film Freak Central) twitter
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
oh yeah the slacklining guy! definitely the weirdest superbowl ever.
― the arm (NZA), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
"12 Inches of Snow" is a quadruple pun, actually. It can refer to:1) A vinyl record.2) The canadian weather.3) A cocaine line.4) The artist's penis.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 09:15 (twelve years ago) link
Hey Tuomas, thanks for making me think about Snow's penis at 8am ;)
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:07 (twelve years ago) link
That seems like a lot of cocaine
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:20 (twelve years ago) link
Is that Art Garfunkel in the first gif?
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:37 (twelve years ago) link
Are there two covers? I'd guess one is standard, one is deluxe. Anyway, I like this alternate one:
http://i.imgur.com/u7IeZ.jpg
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 10 February 2012 19:17 (twelve years ago) link
So is LMFAO on the single, or is that a new remix making the radio rounds already? LOL at the idea of MDNA piggybacking on the popularity of LMFAO.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
Madonna broke her silence Friday morning on the uproar that followed her Super Bowl XLVI halftime show, which was upstaged when fellow performer M.I.A. appeared to curse and gave the middle finger to the more than 110 million viewers watching.
Madonna said that she only learned of the antics after the fact -- and was none too pleased.
"I was really surprised," she told Ryan Seacrest during a call-in interview to "On Air With Ryan Seacrest." "I didn't know anything about it. I wasn't happy about it. I understand it's punk rock and everything, but to me there was such a feeling of love and good energy and positivity, it seemed negative."
She added: "It's such a teenager irrelevant thing to do there was such a feeling of love and unity there, what was the point? It was just out of place."
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
I figured she'd be pissed.
I tried to buy presale tickets for her Philly show this morning; they're priced at $90, $170, and $355. The best seats $170 would get me were BEHIND THE STAGE; what the fuck is that? P fucking disgusted atm. Hopefully they'll have better seats when tickets go on sale for real. Do ticket presales usually suck?
― tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:25 (twelve years ago) link
"I understand it's punk rock and everything""I understand it's punk rock and everything""I understand it's punk rock and everything"you're late for your yoga class btw
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
don't a lot of big touring acts now sell tickets 'behind the stage' explicity because they've built some kind of rotating stage setup so nobody's always seeing the performers' backs? just saying
― some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
i am all for madonna embracing her status as crabby old grande dame tbh
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
if only mia had given head to a bottle instead of flipped off the crowd, much classier
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
With someone like Madonna, there is no "behind the stage." When I saw her behind "American Life," the moving stage was as radical as anything I'd seen from U2, and I imagine many in the worst seats got some of the best views.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:05 (twelve years ago) link
Superbowl halftime show possibly inspired by this fanvid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNRjzUB7Afo
This was featured in a NYT article in 2007 so it's not a stretch to imagine that someone in Madonna's camp saw it! And maybe secretly plotted for a Superbowl halftime show from that day forward XD.
The BBC had to play a 15 minute montage over stirring trumpets and heterosexual rap to get the manliness level back up after the Madonna interlude.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:31 (twelve years ago) link
Also, MIA's four bar rap borrows lyrics from BoA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPmqrk0sPcM
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link
good catch!
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 February 2012 01:04 (twelve years ago) link
Second single proceeds from the assumption that "Get Together" was way too accomplished:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMiYJ7kzbI&feature=player_embedded#!
― Tim F, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link
Oh good jesus god, that's atrocious.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link
her delivery on this is so leaden and perfunctory
― lex pretend, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:50 (twelve years ago) link
like, i don't think the song would be amazing if it was sung by someone with a trace of excitement in their voice but madonna just kills it stone dead
― lex pretend, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
I'm glad Tim set up Get Together as a comparison, because it only emphasizes how tossed off and uninvigorated this piece of crap is.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
this sounds like a demo...
― skip, Monday, 27 February 2012 19:39 (twelve years ago) link
It is kind of amazing how completely bored she sounds
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
Someone who didn't know English and had to sing it phonetically would probably still do a better job
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
That doesn't just sound like a demo, it sounds like a Ke$ha demo.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
No way, Kesha is far more into what she's singing at any given point.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
I said demo.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
Ke$ha wouldn't blow her million dollar pipes on a demo.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
This sounds "effortless" in the most literal and worst possible way. Not to mention the lyrics! Just awful!
― daavid, Monday, 27 February 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
http://cdn.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/seanprice.gif
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Monday, 27 February 2012 22:08 (twelve years ago) link
Shit, this song gives me serious bad flashbacks to this one time I did E and then my friend bailed on me and I had to go sleep at a bathhouse. But seriously, no Madonna lyrics will ever be as bad as:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkr3xtBRcKI
― I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
I Love New York's lyrics are at least buoyed by resting atop a pretty great piece of music. Girl Gone Wild is just garbage from beginning to end.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
totally otm
― I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
Smart enough to let Azari & III open for her but not produce some songs? She lost me.
― Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
I'm half-tempted to start a fb campaign urging her not to release this album in an effort to preserve her legacy. A hollow gesture, of course, because the label has already sunk a ton of money into it, but a gesture from the heart nonetheless.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:52 (twelve years ago) link
"I feel like all the records on the radio right now have a homogenized quality to them. I've made a huge effort to try and not sound like everybody else,"
You're Madonna...you shouldn't have to try!
― Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 06:34 (twelve years ago) link
where oh where is the dave q madonna thread?
― geeta, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:16 (twelve years ago) link
some fabulous artwork this year
http://edge0.viagogo.net/images/categoryimages/concerts/madonna/madonnaemail2012_c1.jpg?v=2119
― piscesx, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
oh stop, she's down
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:33 (twelve years ago) link
I've made a huge effort to try and not sound like everybod-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMiYJ7kzbI
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:16 (twelve years ago) link
hyurr! Madonna deserves her own thread(s), and here's mine...
a treasure of an opening post
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link
i think madonna may have finally reached jay-z status with me, where i actually think of the artist in their prime as an entirely separate person to the current artist, and there is no overlap at all in my mind
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:20 (twelve years ago) link
otm, though for me she reached that point years ago
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:54 (twelve years ago) link
even "music" was like basically a difft artist in my mind
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:55 (twelve years ago) link
I am baffled by people who prefer new Madonna to "classic" Madonna.
― Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:05 (twelve years ago) link
there are people who think that?! surely not
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
There's quite a sizeable number who think Ray of Light and Confessions are her best work, but I kind of put that down to an age thing, and maybe people disliking 80s production. For me "classic" Madonna (where she could do really no wrong) ended with the Evita vocal lessons which sucked all the warmth and life and the use of her lower register out of her voice, and now that the mannered imperiousness has vanished (which was the whole point of the lessons), we're just left with this lifeless catastrophe. The song is dire but she probably could have done something with it two decades ago.
― prolego, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:21 (twelve years ago) link
I'd want to give this song to the Madonna of "Burning Up" or "Open Your Heart" and see what she'd do with it, but she'd probably she'd just look at it and what she'd become with complete derision.
― prolego, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
i agree that the vocal lessons were on balance a bad thing but her post-evita voice didn't become an actual hindrance until confessions imo - it suits RoL completely, then on music andamerican life it didn't matter because those albums (at their best) were all about how she electronically manipulated and distorted her voice. on confessions the music is so dazzling that she gets away with it.
i only think of the current incarnation of madonna as starting post-2005, whatever you think of the 1998-2005 period vis-à-vis her 80s or early 90s stuff, it's far closer to that than to the shit she's coming out with now.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:33 (twelve years ago) link
Well, to my ears Confessions marked the only time her new voice worked on a whole album, thanks in large part to it being a dance record. The slower stuff on ROL and Music (e.g. "I Deserve It," "Mer Girl") is dreadful; even "Drowned World" boasts a couple of pompous moments, like when, to quote Rob Sheffield, she says "I had so many lah-VERS" as if she's never had one in her life.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:35 (twelve years ago) link
What about What It Feels Like For a Girl? A great late slow song imo.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:44 (twelve years ago) link
It works. I'd argue that's a ballad conceived as a dance track (the sonics, the way her voice sounds like it's looped).
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link
Re: Madonna's late voice & dance music, it's telling that both Hung Up and Sorry find her scolding somebody - not the whole album but the two big singles, and then Jump is hard-nosed self-help. The open-armed joy she could tap into on Into the Groove or Deeper and Deeper seems inaccessible to her now. Just a thought - there may be exceptions I'm forgetting.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:12 (twelve years ago) link
"Deeper and Deeper" doesn't feel joyful at all (and that's part of what makes it so great)! But yeah I agree.
― prolego, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:19 (twelve years ago) link
that rings true - confessions marked the first time i felt M's voice thudded somewhat and felt flat. for a dance record it's curiously lacking in uninhibited joy. but yeah, that's pretty bang on about why "hung up", "sorry", "jump" and "push" work (and it's why i've felt that unlike those, "get together" works despite madonna rather than due to her).
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:21 (twelve years ago) link
xp Ah OK, I find Deeper and Deeper pretty joyful, unlike most of Erotica. Ear of the beholder.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:25 (twelve years ago) link
"deeper and deeper" = numbing trauma with hedonism, finding a kind of liberation in that anyway. it's complicated
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:52 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
because American Life and Hard Candy were so great that this is a shock
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
I want to lock Madonna in a room with just her guitar and see what she comes up with, because she needs a serious reboot.
― thinveneer, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:58 (twelve years ago) link
I'm sure that will work.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link
Was Ray of Light the last really "unique" thing she did? I mean obviously it too heavily drew from several sources but most of them iirc were sort of more out of the mainstream than, say, disco (re: Confessions).
― I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:03 (twelve years ago) link
Grasping at straws.
― thinveneer, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link
Was Ray of Light the last really "unique" thing she did?
"die another day"!
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:08 (twelve years ago) link
you guys, this new song isn't amazing by any stretch of the imagination but it's a hell of a lot better than "Give Me All Your Luvin'"
also some dude OTM even though I loved American Life
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:12 (twelve years ago) link
Not to get all rockisty or anything, I think part of the problem is that in Madonna's prime the radio still played standard ... songs, for lack of a better word. Things that could be played on piano or guitar. But the last few years the pop music pendulum has swung over to clubby anonymity, which is fine ... for the clubs. But on the radio there's not a lot of room for songs without a 4/4 stomp and a stupid hook. It's a shame Madonna is buying into that, but I don't see what choice she has, if she wants to get played. Ray of Light and Music were sort of a transitional hybrids allowed by the advent of "OMG dance music electronics!" (see also: Moby, Prodigy, anything with OMG electronics!). But now we're on the other side of that. Just hypothesizing, but top 40 has never seemed more ... digital disco.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:13 (twelve years ago) link
you realize it's kind of silly to say music driven by MIDI synths can't be played on a piano, right
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:16 (twelve years ago) link
it is a shame that the woman behind "burning up" and "holiday" has been reduced to digital disco
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:23 (twelve years ago) link
At this point in her career, better this than jazz standards.
― Fonz Hour (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
More the case that her most comfortable sound is now pop's default setting and instead of accentuating the differences the new single merges with everything else, which makes her sound like one of many. Stuart Price's Confessions production is "digital disco" but it doesn't sound like David Guetta and this one does.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
i don't even care enough about her to want to defend her but it seems off to not accept she's had club music from the start
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
(as opposed to "buying into it" now)
xpost Anything can be played on piano or guitar - notes are notes and chords are chords - but it's not really ideal for this sort of thing. It's all about the thump and the rhythm/repetition; the robotic-ness is its appeal, not the melody. (/geir)
Just saying, you can sing Madonna's best stuff in the shower. Or in the car. Or wherever. The newer stuff is subservient to the beat. Which isn't a bad thing! But there are many people who do it better than Madonna.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:50 (twelve years ago) link
I don't see the distinction. You can't really sing Vogue or Justify My Love in the shower. She's always had club tracks which don't make sense detached from the beat.
― Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
I agree with that (though you can totally sing the chorus to Vogue!). But I'd still say songs like that are the clubby outliers of her ouevre. Lately she's been overtly playing catch-up with club trends rather than originating them, and the look doesn't suit her.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:54 (twelve years ago) link
the only reason you can't sing Vogue in the shower is because no one remembers how the verses go
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
You can't really sing Vogue or Justify My Love in the shower.
believe me, you most certainly can.
― I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:01 (twelve years ago) link
though you can't really sing Justify My Love at all
xpost They goes like this: dooby-doo, dooby-doo-doo-do-do-doo-do, dooby-do-do-doo.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
dooby-doo, dooby-doo-doo-do-do-doo-do, dooby-do-do-doo(that's what it's for)
― robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:07 (twelve years ago) link
You do the Lenny Kravitz doh-doh-doh-dohhhh part and then you pick up the shower nozzle like a mic and say "Love me! That's Right! Love me!"
― Fonz Hour (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
You guys sound like Paul fucking McCartney.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
Thumbs aloft!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link
How complex does a hook have to be before you can sing it in the shower?
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
Exactly 39% complex.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:00 (twelve years ago) link
I just mean I have no difficulty imagining LMFAO lyrics can be heard in your more tragic dorm bathrooms. The problem is less that new music is unsuitable to Madonna's gifts so much as Madonna's new music is tired. Cher pulled off digital disco ten years ago.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:04 (twelve years ago) link
If Madonna tried to play "Into The Groove" on guitar it would sound like "I Deserve It."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
Madonna's gift, as such, used to be (besides not sounding tired) not sounding like she was breathlessly, belatedly playing catch-up.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
― da croupier, Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:04 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I've never been happier to be done school.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link
isn't "tragic dorm bathrooms" redundant
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:22 (twelve years ago) link
a girl gone WILDa good girl gone WILD
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 10:58 (twelve years ago) link
But on the radio there's not a lot of room for songs without a 4/4 stomp and a stupid hook. It's a shame Madonna is buying into that, but I don't see what choice she has, if she wants to get played.
Seriously? It's Madonna, she'll get played whatever, she could afford to take more risks than pretty much anyone else. I haven't heard any of the new stuff but if it does just sound like Guetta-house then I'd put that down to lack of imagination rather than anything else. See also Hard Candy.
― Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:01 (twelve years ago) link
there's a good argument to be made that this new single is the worst thing that madonna has ever committed to record
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:08 (twelve years ago) link
IIRC Like A Virgin was half amazing singles and half unlistenable garbage.
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:01 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah. It was her weakest album for a couple of decades.
― prolego, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:10 (twelve years ago) link
surm won't tolerate any dissent re "Shooby Dooby Doo."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:28 (twelve years ago) link
"Revolver" pissed me off way more. Plus Evita (not really her fault).
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
I don't understand how this new boring song can be viewed as being worse than the actively terrible song she released right before it, not to mention the impressive string of drippy clunkers she's released throughout her entire career
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:47 (twelve years ago) link
The worst thing about it is how it disinfects the word "erotic."
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
Not even sure if it's better than the Paris Hilton sexting song.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:56 (twelve years ago) link
I will never know about that because srsly fuck seeking out a Paris Hilton song, life is far too fucking short for that
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:57 (twelve years ago) link
the song is actually seriously p amazing, but mostly because it was already a song that these people just had Paris re-do vocals for
― I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:13 (twelve years ago) link
if she was gonna go this route, why didn't she just pay for the full max martin spa treatment. i mean, go to the source and don't mess around. even britney would have turned up her nose at the girls gone wild song.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:27 (twelve years ago) link
there's a very condescending "meet them halfway" attitude madonna seems to have to catering to the charts that more and more ends up at the exact wrong halfway point
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
Between the Super Bowl and this track I am p convinced she is just going through the motions w the bare minimum of effort. Who produced this? Maybe the Orbit tracks will redeem her?
― I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
Most of her efforts these days lie in film-making.
― prolego, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
"Efforts."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:52 (twelve years ago) link
Most of her efforts lie in trying to physically turn back the hands of time. Which is her prerogative, but she should't pretend her music is nearly as impressive as her physique.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link
Wouldn't want Madonna to get a big head.
― da croupier, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:08 (twelve years ago) link
there's a good argument to be made that this new single is the worst thing that madonna has ever committed to record― lex pretend, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:08 AM (Yesterday)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:08 AM (Yesterday)
I always think Jimmy Jimmy is the very worst thing she's ever recorded. Every year or so I listen to it and crrrringe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgL3A1VRSWI
― garbage corn fan (Je55e), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
oh it's cute, at worst negligible.
Plus, it was buried on the second side.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
you have to admit that madonna keeps up with linguistic fashion for using "punk rock" as an adjective. i'm serious about this.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://mymdna.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/dna_strand_sm.gif
― Eric H., Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link
well doesn't that just make everyone feel like a knee-jerk everything's-gotta-be-a-drug-ref...ist
― fauxmarc, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:52 (twelve years ago) link
I don't even want to know what's happening back there
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:55 (twelve years ago) link
It's like opening the Necromonicon.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:57 (twelve years ago) link
Q: is mymdna a social networking site for madonna fans?A: well, there's already manhunt
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
The Madonna-is-old jokes make you look bad and are...old. There's enough bad music being pumped out by this woman to poke fun at instead.
― Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:25 (twelve years ago) link
Well, I will say there is a distinction to be made between someone who is old and someone who is old and trying to act young. For sure Madonna has been "old" for a while now, both literally and figuratively, but in general she has surmounted society's prejudices. Not this time, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
oh cmon, "opening the Necronomicon" is a good line
― Pup Shalom Dog Costume (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
how is that a "Madonna is old" joke
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
The Necronomicon is old? Dead things are old?
BTW, I think Madonna's awesome mother/*ucker shirt was her smartest, cleverest statement on age.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:36 (twelve years ago) link
Her arms are her worst.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
But the best at cracking walnuts!
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
personally I'm waiting for someone to splice that anigif with the face-melting scene from Raiders
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
http://files.brobible.com/archive/Buzz/1CelebrityHallofFame/Stallone-over-the-top.jpg
L-R: Madonna, Madonna
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link
It was more a Madonna is evil rather than a Madonna is old joke, but hey.
― Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:05 (twelve years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/mdnareloaded/madonna-im-addicted
Thankfully this track is *much* better, but I mean it'd be exceedingly difficult to make something worse than GGW
― Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link
Music gets pretty zzzzz around 0:24 but the vocals are pretty great throughout
― Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:06 (twelve years ago) link
And now here's another snippet of a track ("Love Spent")
http://videolog.tv/video.php?id=761098
― Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17297661
― piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:33 (twelve years ago) link
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― Pup Shalom Dog Costume (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 March 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
umhttp://www.mp3waxx.com/jobfolders/madonnafdup/blast-page.html
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 March 2012 14:59 (twelve years ago) link
o_O
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
"Bad Girl" that's not.
― Eric H., Monday, 19 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
should I be happy my job blocked that URL
― thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:29 (twelve years ago) link
your job otm
― Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:58 (twelve years ago) link
Oh God, she's gone back to her American Life phase where every other word in the song is either "I" or "me."
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:02 (eleven years ago) link
She's also gone back to her American Life phase of sucking.
― I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
Album appears to be in *ahem* circulation now. GGW was not just a bad choice to open the album, but a bad choice altogether (this can't be restated often enough).
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:44 (eleven years ago) link
The album is shockingly pretty damn brilliant. The singles are somehow the worst songs on the album (which for someone with 30 years experience in the industry and for being well Madonna is ridiculous).
― prolego, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 05:01 (eleven years ago) link
The acoustic "Love Spent" on one of the deluxe editions is pretty goddamn great.
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
"B-Day Song" is like some ridiculous joke and I absolutely adore it
― Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:42 (eleven years ago) link
so is this one of those cases where you have to get the deluxe editions to get the better tracks ?
― mark e, Monday, 26 March 2012 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
has she ever attempted a song like "B-Day Song"? It's like ABBA attempting a kid's song played on live instruments by Muppets.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
"i'm addicted" is pretty awesome
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
and i'm not sure about "gang bang" but it's... genuinely disturbing
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
"gang bang" is the best thing here imo
"i don't give a" and "i'm addicted" are the other two that stood out and if i'm being honest the chorus of "give me all your luvin'" is stuck in my head a great deal of the time. it sounds less good when i actually play it, because madonna's voice is a total husk now, it drags down decent songs/fails to elevate catchy-but-basic bubblegum tunes/sinks each of the ballads.
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
"i'm addicted" is great and sort of what i wanted this whole record to sound like, given the title mdna
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
"Gang Bang" might grow on me but right now it's just super annoying
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
haaaaaa I just got to the dubstep bridge
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
well this whole song is just spectacularly falling apart
I just cannot take "DRIVE BITCH/NOW DIE BITCH" very seriously
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
"I'm Addicted" is actually a good song
After the two singles and "Gang Bang", I was not expecting this
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
"superstar" = worst madonna lyrics yet?
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
well "I'm Addicted" was a good song until she ran out of ideas at the end and started aimlessly chanting "M! D! N! A"
holy fuck I am 30 seconds into "Turn Up The Radio" and I want to murder everyone I have ever known so that they don't accidentally hear it
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
hahahahaha "i don't give a" is awesome, choral stuff at the end is so ott
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link
like, there are a bunch of components here on paper that I should really, really like, but it's put together in the most fucking annoying manner possible and I'm just sitting here thinking "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD"
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
don't share your hate for "turn up the radio," dan. it's just kind of nothing
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
although "Gimme All Your Luvin" is even more annoying, lol
"Some Girls" sounds like an anonymous diva house remix, which automatically makes it the second best song I've heard on this album so far
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
okay "Superstar" is just PATHETIC
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
"you're abe lincoln / cuz you fight for what's right"
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
hoo boy
"I Don't Give A" reminds me a little too much of "Top That!" from "Teen Witch":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEa1BYBgeQI
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I think I'ma skip this one.
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
it's better than hard candy?
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think I'd even give it that, based on what I've heard so far
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
So then it's officially the worst album of all time. Check.
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
had the coda on "I Don't Give A" been the intro, it might have saved the song
"I'm A Sinner" sounds like it actually has quantizing issues, like they couldn't get the components of the loop to match up correctly; it's still the third-best song I've heard on this album
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
"Love Spent" starts with a banjo, that's a good sign
haha and once that goes away the song gets much much much better
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
did she just say "Frankly, if my name was Benjamin/We wouldn't be in the mess we're in"
oh Madonna
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
"I want you to hold me like you hold your money/Hold me 'til there's nothing left"
this is still the third- or fourth-best song on the album
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
oh god that lyric made my jaw drop when i first heard it
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
the benjamin one
... O_O
I... I genuinely like "Masterpiece"
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
this is EASILY the best song on the album so far
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
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― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
okay what the fuck, "Falling Free" just started and why do I like the ballads so much??
Lyrically, it's still kind of inane but at least she sounds like she has a personality and the melody does more than just sit on one note for entire verses
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
Lyrically, it's still kind of inane but at least she sounds like she has a personality
this really surprises me b/c i think even more than the underwritten songs, lyrical clunkers and uninspiring producers, madonna's terrible terrible delivery is what sinks the album - someone with a semblance of character could've rescued even the inane songs but she sounds bored and rigid and characterless for the most part, and this is especially the case where she's required to sound emotional (the ballads) or carefree (the bubblegum)
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
I'm with lex re her voice. It's as if this is what happens to billions spent on voice lessons and locution: after fifteen years the warranty runs out and she forgot to keep the receipt.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
I completely agree that Madonna's delivery is terrible right up until the last two songs on the main album; "Beautiful Killer" is also much less irritating than the lion's share of the album.
haha oh my god "I Fucked Up" on the other hand is absolutely the terrible flat affect horseshit delivery you are calling out
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
i've just realised dan hasn't got to "bday song" yet
*anticipates*
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
(i agree that for some reason "beautiful killer" does work v well)
"I Fucked Up" should have been double-time the whole song, it wouldn't come across quite so lifelessly
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
"Bday Song" is my favorite.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
seriously though, she has zero awareness and zero people around her who give a shit if "I Fucked Up" in this form was allowed to go out the door
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
what
what is happening here
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
why are M.I.A. and Madonna singing over an interpolation of the Sesame Street theme song
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
I am too bemused to make a judgement about this
the vocals thing is particularly sad because her voice was so crazy good at elevating her (already classic) material - could anyone have done 'open your heart' or 'into the groove' or 'burning up' or 'crazy for you' as well as her? her 80's voice is one of pop's most underrated instruments. And I don't think there's any excuse to what it's become other than sheer laziness (which is SO NOT A GOOD LOOK on you madge).
― prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
hahahaha seriously what was that, though
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
the bit where MIA asks to be spanked is particularly o_0
― lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
oh shit "Best Friend" is kind of instantly appealing
oh wow "masterpiece" is really good
― Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
and yeah, this has zero to do with "voice lessons" and everything to do with "50+ year old woman on autopilot"
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, March 26, 2012
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
masterpiece has maybe the worst lyric on the album - "if you were the mona lisa you'd be hanging in the louvre' wtf is that.
― prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
(although the flat delivery really works on busy songs like "Best Friend" where she's kind of taking herself out of the way of the backing track and keeping some sense of space in the arrangement as a result)
xp: That is a statement of fact...? Nothing really beats the stupidity of "Love Spent" IMO
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
lol okay as I suspected, I went back to "Bang Bang" and it's way more appealing than it was the first time I heard it
hate the little guitar sting tho
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
all i have heard from this shit has been shit
― surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
so basically we have some songs I like without reservation ("Masterpiece", "Falling Free", "Beautiful Killer", "Best Friend"), some songs I would like more if they'd figured out how to end them before they fell apart ("Gang Bang", "I'm Addicted"), a wholly anonymous, innoffensive piece of nothing ("Some Girls"), a mind-meltingly STUPID song that manages to not be 100% terrible ("Love Spent"), a wholly odd thing I can't make heads nor tails of ("B-Day Song") and then everything else is SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
Better than Hard Candy then. Things are on the up.
― prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
i wish she would just zen out and do something ... creative, and relaxed
― surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
like what is she doing
I just put on Hard Candy (thx Spotify) and the first song alone makes a better impression than MDNA
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I listened to Hard Candy a couple months ago and it didn't seem nearly as bad as I remembered. Four years from now will that happen with MDNA? Could, but it's unlikely.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
Thank god it's too hot and sunny for me to put on Erotica or Bedtime Stories.
― prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
also I always a big fan of "Four Minutes"
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
i just don't understand why this is the kind of thing she thinks ppl would want to hear on E
is she really that out of touch
confessions was definitely the E album. the moment's over. get a new idea.
― surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link
honestly if i heard this rolling i think i would spontaneously vomit
― surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
Erotica was the E album! xp
― prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
Erotica is the coke album.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
Bedtime Stories is the Coke album.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, even a song that is manifestly terrible as "Give It 2 Me" is still a level above most of this new shit just in terms of how it's put together
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
put on erotica after smoking a little the other night and it was really just ... perfect
― surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
anyone in this thread rolling on Molly?
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link
not atm :|
― surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
y, you holding?
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
lol otm
― surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:34 (eleven years ago) link
I think what I like about "Love Spent" is that it seems like she got bored with it mid-way through and then started right into a completely different song. The alternative explanation is that there were so many writers on it (check the credits, there's 5 or 6 co-writers) that Orbit just grafted everything together and hoped for the best.
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
is molly the US version of mandy?
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
americans: stick to weed slang, you're better at that than ecstasy slang
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
This album has a billion songwriting credits.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:15 (eleven years ago) link
Christgau:
Forget the four "Deluxe" extras, not one of which except maybe the pretty little "I F***ed Up" improves on the updated '90s arena-dance power tracks of the first 43 minutes, although they top the deadly-dreamy closer "Falling Free" as well as the penultimate "Masterpiece," which begins "If you were the Mona Lisa . . . ." Granted, I could mock "Ooh la la you're my superstar/Ooh la la that's what you are" just as easily. But lyrics have never been where she showed off her gorgeous brains, and anyway, the 10-track mix I propose as an alternative goes out on a real song called "Love Spent": "Hold me like your money/Tell me that you want me/Spend your love on me/Spend your love on me." Nikki Minaj shines bright, but she's no more crucial structurally than the cheerleaders who garnish "I'm Addicted" at its close and embellish "Give Me All Your Luvin'" throughout. Play loud. She's smart and she's proud. A MINUS
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
what the hell
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
lol he's finally lost it for good.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:22 (eleven years ago) link
that entire thing might as well say:
I had strained peas for dinner. I never thought about growing old when I was younger and the indignities aging would visit upon my body; the infirmity visited upon my limbs, the rapid deterioration of my eyesight, the unpredictable and embarrassing episodes of incontinence. Even now I don't know that I can trust that my mind is formulating coherent thoughts and that the words I am using to express myself are lucid once they have been written down. And yet, amidst all of this, the largest indignity I suffer is eating. That, and I like an extraordinarily crappy Madonna album. A MINUS
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSl2ezoyPuo
― if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
You get a free CD or digital download w each ticket purchased, and when you go to redeem them the header at the top of the page reads "Get your MDNA (clean) album" despite it not mentioning a clean version anywhere else in the email or on the redemption page. Ugh.
― Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
what the hell indeed
― Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:39 (eleven years ago) link
Agree with people above...a lot of these songs would be pretty damn good if they were sung by someone who sounded like she was actually trying.
― skip, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
whoever had the idea of putting Girl Gone Wild as the opening track is outta their mind. gets loads better by track 3 but man by halfway through track 2 it was starting to sound like a 21st century version of
http://turntabling.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ethel-merman-disco-album.jpg
― piscesx, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:18 (eleven years ago) link
irl lols
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:22 (eleven years ago) link
This miserable album entirely justified its existence once it resulted in me seeing that Teen Witch clip posted upthread.
― Look At How Funky He Is! (jer.fairall), Friday, 30 March 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
You may enjoy this episode of Freaky Trigger and the Lollards of Pop, in which we play that clip on the radio....
http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/11/freaky-trigger-and-the-lollards-of-pop-series-4-week-9/
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 March 2012 09:59 (eleven years ago) link
I'm Addicted is Confessions.. standard good IMHO.
― piscesx, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:01 (eleven years ago) link
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vLbMuPkqGIw/RxvakxZa6FI/AAAAAAAAAt4/Pe_pFgUfWxo/s400/Mrs__Miller_-_Does_her_thing.jpg
― beanz meanz lulz (snoball), Sunday, 1 April 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
It makes a difference hearing this thing in sequence. The two singles remain garbage but I can get down with "Gang Bang," "I'm Addicted," "Some Girls," and "I Don't Give A."
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
saying your name is somewhere between a prayer and a shout~
― lex pretend, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
Exclusive: Madonna MDNA Will Have Biggest Second Week Drop in Chart History
Madonna‘s “MDNA” album had the biggest second week drop in chart history last week, I am told. When all the numbers are in on Tuesday night, “MDNA” will have fallen from number 1 by 88%–from 359,000 copies in its first week to roughly 46,000 the second week. Wow. The first week’s sales, as I revealed exclusively (and then the New York Post lifted it from us), most of Madonna’s first week sales were CDs that were included in the sale of concert tickets. That promotion artificially inflated Madonna’s numbers, putting her first before Lionel Richie and his “Tuskegee” album. In the second week, Richie fell only 47% and sold about 110,000 albums–which is normal. “Tuskegee” will now finish much higher than “MDNA.” I do think that all the people involved in the Madonna ticket-CD deal should apologize to Richie for denying him his rightful place at number 1, starting with Billboard and SoundScan. But Richie’s consolation is that he has a major hit, while “MDNA” is a total dud. So far, “MDNA” has not produced anything like a hit single either, no radio play or anything to provide organic promotion. But Madonna’s concert tour with Live Nation will be a big hit, so it’s not like we have to worry about her financial situation.
― Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
Set list was revealed apparenty but I don't think I wanna spoil it
― Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
A friend and I were discussing this story last night, and how much more adeptly Richie has marketed himself to the Target and Walmart crowd.
Also, from what I've read and been told, it's a much better record than it has a right to be: better than Madonna's.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:04 (eleven years ago) link
Lionel Richie has been ready for the middle-age market since before Madonna was recording
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:08 (eleven years ago) link
whereas Madonna has no idea she IS the middle age market
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
no way all the hip dance kids totally love her amirite
― Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
she'll have her "believe" yet, i'm sure
― da croupier, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
read the comments on that Forbes article
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
This whole Madonna/Lionel thing suddenly makes me feel like I'm living in a weirdo version of the 80s.
― Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah, i passed by an electronics/music store downtown that had a new release slate and it was MADONNAIRON MAIDENLIONEL RICHIEKATY PERRY
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:56 (eleven years ago) link
Leftsetz ragging on Madonna almost makes me want to buy this
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
haha
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
Madonna‘s “MDNA” album had the biggest second week drop in chart history last week, I am told.
well she's all about the drop these days right?
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
www.rimshot.com
― boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
which does not lead where i woulda thought it would
This album is not actually as unrelentingly terrible as you ppl say it is.
It does sound, however, like she went to all the trouble of throwing this amazing fabulous party - and then couldn't be bothered turning up for it.
― I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 09:45 (eleven years ago) link
Picks up considerably in the second half, so I'm glad I persisted with it. I Don't Give A and I'm A Sinner have been enjoyable circle rides where she stops crowing about how awesome it is Being Madonna, and gets back to the serious business of, y'know, being Madonna.
― I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link
Holy shit, Falling Free.
I cannot believe the difference between the two halves of this album. Like, side 1, which is all "drugs, sex, shooting dudes in the head" is completely phoned in, like she didn't even turn up at the studio, went through the motions, etc. But then the second half, which is all "musings on life and love and ageing and the death and decay of impossible love" and then suddenly she stops phoning it in, and MADONNA turns up.
Like she's only doing the "yay, parties, clubbing!" stuff to fulfill contractual obligations, but the album tracks that come when that's out the way are subtly amazing.
― I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 10:11 (eleven years ago) link
It's actually pretty unrelentingly terrible.
― I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
completely forgot that this even came out
― giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
It does pick up towards the end, but after that tedious first half-hour I feel like "hey, this isn't completely crap" rather than "ok, this is a good song"
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
so glad this bombed in the US.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
get HER!
http://www.towleroad.com/2012/08/eltonmadonna.html
― Pangborn to be Wilde (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
By referring to Madonna as a fairground stripper, Elton has basically described 99% of all female pop singers out there today. Their shtick consists of look changes, showing a boob, showing a piece of ass, pretending to be bisexual etc etc etc. The saddest thing is that gay men have supported the careers of these women.
I honestly don't know why men who are interested sexually in men have gone and supported the careers of women who appeal sexually to men who are not like us. Strange, isn't it?
Posted by: jason | Aug 6, 2012 8:55:23 AM
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
Here let me just fix that up for you
The saddest thing is that gay men have supported the careers of these women.I honestly don't know why men who are interested sexually in men have gone and supported the careers of women who appeal sexually to men who are not like us. Strange, isn't it?Posted by: jason | Aug 6, 2012 8:55:23 AM
― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to Hard Candy a couple months ago and it didn't seem nearly as bad as I remembered.
I don't think I've ever been more wrong, more often, more vehemently, in as many different ways, over a longer period of time, and with as many supposedly clear-eyed self-revisions as with Madonna. There was never a Madonna album I liked on first listen. I'm still suddenly falling in love with old singles I hated. It's all on an upward curve, though, so there's something pleasingly right to me about her confidence, which makes me laugh. I feel silly offering strong opinions about her music at all anymore, one way or the other (given how much I now like Hard Candy, I suspect MDNA is better than this thread's borderline consensus, but of course I'm going to think that).
I will say, I now might vote the other way on that TS: Madonna vs. Elvis thread. The not-trying/not-showing-up-to-the-studio quality discussed above strikes me as a refinement of something that was always mysteriously there (or not there) in her singing. To me it's the sound of close, fascinated, concerned attentiveness to the contours of a melody just within reach of her ability, almost child-like with wonder or conscientiousness or both, but which winds up registering emotionally as all kinds of intimacy and attitude. Or maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm beginning to think I'd love her if she'd never released anything but the last two albums...
― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 11 August 2012 00:28 (eleven years ago) link
I am at the show in Philly right now. Her opening act is a DJ playing an hour-long set of 45-second snippets of songs while everyone just sits and watches.
― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
Also he has played FOUR Madonna songs as well as the opening riff of "Eye Of The Tiger". This guy is the WORST and his only shot of redeeming himself is playing "If Madonna Calls" or maybe even just "Queen's English"
― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:15 (eleven years ago) link
What hath Girl Talk wrought.
― Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
Holy shit that was so much fun.
― the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 06:22 (eleven years ago) link
So we found tickets for the show tonight on eBay for $35 each. Wisely skipping the opening DJ.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 October 2012 04:03 (eleven years ago) link
Two hours of Vigilant Citizen pop-celebrity Illuminati/Osiris shlock set to dubstep. Some parts legitimately great, but weird apocalyptic vibe was more off-putting WTF than ridiculously engaging. Suspect Roger Waters would like this show a lot.
More than once, gf and I turned to each other and said "is she really drunk?"
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 October 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
So apparently her entire next album was leaked months ahead of time?
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a617162/madonnas-new-album-leaks-in-full-months-before-it-is-announced.html#~oYIxu0W7UvC4R2
― Greer, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 14:57 (nine years ago) link
well demos she was working on this summer
supposedly it got leaked because brazilian fans were getting mad she was spending too long on the album.
― prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:04 (nine years ago) link
oh brazil
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:34 (nine years ago) link
I listened to this album a few months ago for the first time since fall '12. It holds up better than I thought (the final stretch ain't bad) but no way is it other than third tier Madonna.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:38 (nine years ago) link
"bitch i'm madonna" may be her worst ever anything
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:43 (nine years ago) link
well it is a sophie/diplo production
― prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:47 (nine years ago) link
though maybe madonna causing pc music to jump the shark could prove her greatest contribution to music in a decade
― prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:57 (nine years ago) link
I think I like MDMA nearly as much as Confessions, which means it's my 2nd favorite Madonna album since 1995.
― Eric H., Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:18 (nine years ago) link
so she's put the album up for pre-order and chucked out those songs that leaked as early downloads. 13 other tracks will come in march.
while it's probably a smart move, i don't exactly like the precedent of brazilian hacker stans being able to force the hands of their favourite artists (although considering north korean hackers seemingly managed to stop the interview's release this might prove the future).
― prolego, Saturday, 20 December 2014 12:26 (nine years ago) link
unholy brazilian madonna fan/kim jung-un alliance will destroy western civilization
― I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 20 December 2014 13:39 (nine years ago) link
The wikipedia article says that there has been a "slurry of unexpected album content leaks". Giggle.
― oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Saturday, 20 December 2014 13:51 (nine years ago) link
"devil pray" is the best thing here. it wouldn't sound too out of place on american life (save for the fact she's left kabbalistic musings behind for a hallucinatory drug trip through catholic hell). that folktronica sound is really such a comfortable fit for her in many ways, and in hindsight kind of makes me think she axed mirwais too soon.
"ghosttown" is fairly standard tedder-esque balladry (he's got a writing credit on "devil pray" but not this which feels like a mistake) but she sounds so much better vocally on it that she has in years and it makes such a difference. someone in her team needs to tell her to stay in her lower register because when she veers out of it she ends up sabatoging even potentially great material. but we've discussed this here ad nauseum.
"bitch i'm madonna" remains terrible (what the hell is that drop?!) and sophie needs to stop existing already. poor nicki getting roped in when she's already had a bad enough week.
i don't even know what the fuck "illuminati" is, but i've long expected madonna to become music's norma desmond so in a way it makes more sense than anything else here. i wish she's stop with this rebel heart nonsense and just call an album i am big, it's the charts that got small already.
― prolego, Saturday, 20 December 2014 15:15 (nine years ago) link
Just listened to the iTunes samples. They are terrible, every one of them. I didn't like MDNA or Hard Candy either. When is it time for me to finally give up?
― Johnny Fever, Saturday, 20 December 2014 16:16 (nine years ago) link
Oh man "Living For Love" is some awesome throwback piano-house Masters at Work shit
― fgti jaq, it's chinavision! (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 December 2014 04:45 (nine years ago) link
that was my impression, just the vocal melody uh needs work
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 December 2014 06:25 (nine years ago) link
BITCH *clap* I'M *clap* MADONNA *clap*
― j. winters (josh), Sunday, 21 December 2014 07:42 (nine years ago) link
This btw: Madonna - Rebel Heart (2015)
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 21 December 2014 08:16 (nine years ago) link
"In advance of the US launch of MDNA SKIN on September 26th, Madonna partnered with The Fat Jewish (Josh Ostrovsky) for a playful, tongue-in-cheek video collaboration featuring MDNA SKIN."
:(
― maura, Friday, 22 September 2017 16:31 (six years ago) link
oh madge no
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:33 (six years ago) link
last week I went to a clubnight which was playing nothing but Madonna for five hours. It was excellent, obviously (although a DJ who took the reins at the last hour had clearly been left out the planning stage as he played songs that had already been played) but I was really surprised at how well-received the stuff from this album went down.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 22 September 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
... "The Fat Jewish"?
never have I been so glad to be out of the loop
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
although maybe all this means is that this dude is going to be an omnipresent comedic force by 2020 who then morphs into an ignorable character actor
― Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:11 (six years ago) link
hack joke stealer on twitter is all you need to know
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link
also ppl stopped talking abt him a few years ago so madge's ppl are def on the cutting edge here
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
I mean he was just in the Charli XCX "Boys" video, he didn't 100% disappear
― sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
Man, it's been nothing but crap since (and including) American Life ...
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:21 (six years ago) link
'hung up' was good
― maura, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:41 (six years ago) link
and this song from mdna was a highlight even if it could stand to have a minute lopped off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG40yJQ2_aQ
― maura, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
'Hung Up' was alright, but it was undoubtedly helped a lot by that ABBA sample.
― more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (six years ago) link
Rebel Heart was better than this but it doesn't matter.
― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:26 (six years ago) link