MADONNA - MDNA (2012)

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dgaf if it's not confirmed yet or what the demo sounded like, that's the best album title of 2012 and i am standing and applauding her. bitch still has it

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

The music had better match up to the title.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

get ready for dubstep Madonna

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ Worst case scenario possible.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

apparently it is confirmed now

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Get ready for Madonna's film version King Edward VIII's abdication.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

you know what would be great, is if she got hooked up with Lone

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:35 (six years ago) Permalink

MDNA totally looks like some kind of move towards dubstep, but I'm praying DJP and I are wrong.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

i wouldn't be surprised if it was dubstep but what about MDNA codes dubstep?!

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:38 (six years ago) Permalink

The 'Music' hitmaker revealed the title of her twelfth studio album this afternoon (11.01.12), in an interview with TV host Graham Norton in the UK, and also confirmed she will be going on tour again later this year.

She said: "I just have to pay the rent. A girl has to make a living, but truthfully I do enjoy it. Touring is the most rewarding of all my jobs."

The release of 'MDNA' has been marred slightly by the leak of an early version of the first single, 'Gimme All Your Luvin' in November last year, for which a Spanish man was arrested in December.

Referring to the leak Madonna joked: "It's soon. It depends how quickly people hack in to my server and leak it. Can people wait? It's terrible."

Madonna is also set to play the Super Bowl XLVI Half Time Show in February, where she is expected to debut 'Gimme All Your Luvin', which is rumoured to feature Nicki Minaj and M.I.A.

The track has also been listed for radio play in the US in February, with a public release expected to follow shortly afterward. A release date for the album has yet to be confirmed.

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:39 (six years ago) Permalink

MDNA totally codes towards hands-in-the-air euphoria rather than dubstep, which I had automatically assumed would be a good thing. Then I remembered that this will be the first post-Gaga, post-Guetta Madonna album and thought twice about it. Would guess any dubstep will be confined to a middle eight here and there but who knows really.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:42 (six years ago) Permalink

ha just as I read Matt's post, the song hit the dubstep bridge

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:43 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i read it as a MDMA pun predominantly

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

She said: "I just have to pay the rent. A girl has to make a living, but truthfully I do enjoy it. Touring is the most rewarding of all my jobs."

man, will she stop with this shit

frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

is that youtube the demo that leaked a while back? b/c i don't want to hear that again

it's a triple pun right? her own name, mdma + referring to a generation of fans and artists who have her in their dna

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i read it as a MDMA pun predominantly

is taking MDMA and listening to dubstep something people do? b/c it sounds like a horrible experience to me

frogbs, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

huh, reminds me of the nicola roberts record

sorry lex

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

right - weed is the dubstep drug of choice surely. mdma + dubstep = DNW

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

is taking MDMA and listening to dubstep something people do? b/c it sounds like a horrible experience to me

A girl has to make a living.

lumber up, limbaugh down (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

huh, reminds me of the nicola roberts record

that's why i don't want to hear it again, it was terrible and i TRUST that she will change everything about it before it's fit for public consumption

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

is that youtube the demo that leaked a while back? b/c i don't want to hear that again

It's a newer, more polished leak apparently. It sounds like a rejected Fefe Dobson song with a dubstep bridge to me.

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

like Matt I read the MDMA bit of it as indicating something Housier and more fun than dubstep

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

xxp: Lex, you're talking about someone who released "Give It To Me" as a single, on what grounds are you basing this trust

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

also MIA and Nicki on one track? it's a bit blatant/desperate

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

oh and yeah agree about the "DNA" part of it too

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:49 (six years ago) Permalink

MIA's probably the most desperate one in that equation.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:50 (six years ago) Permalink

just think Madge cd've picked a subtler way to tell us she's "with it"

Poppy Newgod and the Phantom Banned (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (six years ago) Permalink

right - weed is the dubstep drug of choice surely. mdma + dubstep = DNW

― irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:46 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

but Lex--all the nuubsteppers are into the "rave scene"!!!

it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (six years ago) Permalink

xxp: Lex, you're talking about someone who released "Give It To Me" as a single, on what grounds are you basing this trust

memories receding ever rapidly into the past ;_;

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Her best titles are always based on her name - her debut, Like A Virgin, Like a Prayer, The Immaculate Collection, even COADF, and now this. It's already been said but she really does have the fucking luckiest name in music history.

I'm just hoping the first single is a red herring built around the Superbowl and album is actually destroys.

prolego, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

*the album is

prolego, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

weed + madonna + dubstep does not sound terrible if her vocals are produced right

surm, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

There's a bit of that new song that sounds a lot like 'Bohemian Like You'

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

i.e. terrible

Rapper rejoins fat man's co-op (NickB), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 16:05 (six years ago) Permalink

^yeah

it means 'super-otm' (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:22 (six years ago) Permalink

"The release of 'MDNA' has been marred slightly by the leak of an early version of the first single, 'Gimme All Your Luvin' in November last year, for which a Spanish man was arrested in December."

Gosh, it must have been a really terrible version.

Oh shit, that's my bone! (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 17:42 (six years ago) Permalink

Man, that could be a mediocre single from any number of acts. But mostly sounds like peppy Britney, c. Toxic.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:54 (six years ago) Permalink

not a zz top cover i take it

goole, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

Is that Genesis P Orridge in the You Tube up thread?

Doran, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 20:56 (six years ago) Permalink

the dubstep middle 8 is the most hilarious musical development of the past year

thug eclair (The Reverend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 21:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Perhaps a bridge too far to think that the MDMA pun would have any relationship to the style of the music - Madonna doubtless is just pleased that it codes as youthful, electronic etc.

If you take a really wide lens approach that basically thinks of MDNA as = young people at raves then perhaps she ought to have gotten Skrillex to produce the whole thing.

OTOH her last single was produced by Paul Oakenfold and had appropriately euphoric aspirations (also was not very good).

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe it's time for more ABBA samples.

skip, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

madonna + dubstep = lou reed + metallica

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:32 (six years ago) Permalink

She should do an album with The Knife and Planningtorock

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:35 (six years ago) Permalink

most importantly every single video should include her treating a DDR machine like a stripper pole IMO

tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Is there even any indication that that dubstep-breakdown-thing is part of an official release?

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 22:43 (six years ago) Permalink

it's a triple pun right? her own name, mdma + referring to a generation of fans and artists who have her in their dna

http://foreverydaypeople.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/prml.jpg

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:11 (six years ago) Permalink

If it's a triple pun, it may be the first triple pun in pop music since "12 Inches of Snow."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:14 (six years ago) Permalink

such a limp stab at a dubstep bridge too. sounds like it was made by some pop producer who tried to approximate skrillex using keyboard presets and doesn't actually know how to work an lfo.

the third kind of dubstep (Jordan), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Is there a dubstep template in Garageband yet?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe she could get MSTRKRFT, BNJMN, SBTRKT and other producers who hate vowels on board.

"only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:41 (six years ago) Permalink

KMFDM too.

Tim F, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:44 (six years ago) Permalink

kissing my...?

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Kein Mehrheit Für Die Mitleid

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:48 (six years ago) Permalink

or rather, Keine Mehrheit Für Das Mitleid

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:49 (six years ago) Permalink

It's German disco, Lex. Kinda.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (six years ago) Permalink

(Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit would make more sense)

Bam! Orgasm explosion in your facehole. (DJP), Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (six years ago) Permalink

most importantly every single video should include her treating a DDR machine like a stripper pole IMO

― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, January 11, 2012 10:36 PM (1 hour ago)

^^^

teledyldonix, Wednesday, 11 January 2012 23:50 (six years ago) Permalink

If it's a triple pun, it may be the first triple pun in pop music since "12 Inches of Snow."

I had this disc and never thought about the title much but wow that is good

frogbs, Thursday, 12 January 2012 00:04 (six years ago) Permalink

All these producer ideas are terrible at a time when the phone presumably still hasn't rung for Dennis Ferrer and Quentin Harris.

Pretty sure I read that the album was being produced by Martin Solveig? Which isn't terrible but isn't exactly very exciting either.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 January 2012 11:35 (six years ago) Permalink

KMFDM = Kill MotherFucking Depeche Mode

DavidM, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:06 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost Unless it all sounds like "Rocking Music".

Tim F, Thursday, 12 January 2012 12:22 (six years ago) Permalink

Maybe she should just make a lolspk moombahton album like Nadia Oh's.

"only girl in the kitchen" (boxedjoy), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:01 (six years ago) Permalink

martin solveig is definitely terrible, think i'd rather skrillex

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:22 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't think madge's voice is quite up to dennis ferrer/quentin harris levels of production though - they best frame house/r&b divas who can BELT IT OUT.

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Quentin Harris? Calvin Harris more like

Number None, Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Isn't this being produced by William Orbit?

lost ai weiwei (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 12 January 2012 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

KMFDM = Kill MotherFucking Depeche Mode

KMFDM = Knights In Satan's Service

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Thursday, 12 January 2012 22:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Y'all make me think this'll be her Blackout.

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Friday, 13 January 2012 00:48 (six years ago) Permalink

she had her blackout already in 1992

prolego, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Her best titles are always based on her name - her debut, Like A Virgin, Like a Prayer, The Immaculate Collection, even COADF, and now this. It's already been said but she really does have the fucking luckiest name in music history.

OTMFM

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 13 January 2012 01:31 (six years ago) Permalink

o_O that's awesome! wonder if they're on the album....

I had to google gucci mane (The Brainwasher), Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:04 (six years ago) Permalink

It's German disco, Lex. Kinda.

Yeah, German disco. Riiight.

_Rudipherous_, Saturday, 14 January 2012 16:40 (six years ago) Permalink

everything about this era is looking up apart from, er, that bloody demo

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Saturday, 14 January 2012 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

lol @ "anzari" btw, gordon "smart" strikes again

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Saturday, 14 January 2012 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Aziz Ansari doing a half-hour of standup before a Madonna show would be a great night out.

do you not like slouching? (Eazy), Saturday, 14 January 2012 19:35 (six years ago) Permalink

azari & iii would be ideal producers for her, too

irina-camelia begu (lex pretend), Saturday, 14 January 2012 19:37 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

http://i40.tinypic.com/k4406.jpg

so she's seriously running with this whole mdma thing.

prolego, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:41 (six years ago) Permalink

is it wrong that my first reaction to that was to silently cheer inside that we can't see her crotch

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Tuesday, 31 January 2012 08:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Isn't this being produced by William Orbit?

my cousin who is a borderline stalker re madonna has confirmed this.

mark e, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:37 (six years ago) Permalink

i like that artwork
nothing screams madonna comeback like a private-dance stripper-milf portraut

nathey, Tuesday, 31 January 2012 09:54 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=cItHOl5LRWg

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:09 (six years ago) Permalink

o god afraid to watch it

surm, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:10 (six years ago) Permalink

youtube urls are really annoying these days

Number None, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

LMMFAO

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:14 (six years ago) Permalink

otm

quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

for whatever reason i was expecting it to be more dancey than pop.

why is m.i.a even on this? her contribution is practically zero.

blonde nicki minaj disturbs me even more than half animal nicki minaj for some reason.

pandemic, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

mia does look spectacular at the start though.

pandemic, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:18 (six years ago) Permalink

also not sure why madonna is breast feeding a doll thru a leopard print bra.

pandemic, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:20 (six years ago) Permalink

ffs

surm, Friday, 3 February 2012 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

the video (or at least the snippets I watched, curse you open floorplan) >>>>>>>>>>>> the song

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't know what she did between the demo and this but i like it a lot more. getting a bit of a "beautiful stranger" vibe. i don't think it's GREAT or anything but i am too hungover to listen again.

video works, nicki was excellent

this was the better of the two m.i.a. videos that came out today

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:23 (six years ago) Permalink

holy shit @ M.I.A's video

man I hope she didn't put a Chris Brown song on her album

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:32 (six years ago) Permalink

well that's something

the 500 gats of bartholomew thuggins (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

re the new song/video: hey, that's kind of fun. silly but fun, and i don't even particularly care for madonna. chorus reminds me strongly of the dandy warhols' "bohemian like you", but that's okay, i love that song.

adolf jingle balls (contenderizer), Friday, 3 February 2012 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

LOADS better than almost all of Hard Candy and, you know, American Life and suchlike. i must see her live this time.

kinda 0_o that MIA would *actually* cheerlead Madonna but what the hey.

piscesx, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:33 (six years ago) Permalink

LOADS better than almost all of Hard Candy

yeah well duh

and, you know, American Life

um that album had "die another day" and "nothing fails" and indeed the title track on it - this is def not better than those

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 3 February 2012 19:41 (six years ago) Permalink

nicki's really good at finding mediocre songs to steal

da croupier, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:50 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't know if i've ever heard her on a track where the question "should someone burst in on this doing a high speed slick rick imitation?" wouldn't be met with "sure, why not, can't make it worse"

da croupier, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:54 (six years ago) Permalink

"88 takes and that's the one madonna looked least tired in"

da croupier, Friday, 3 February 2012 19:55 (six years ago) Permalink

might be her best album cover you know? i'm hoping for
Confessions.. Volume 2 but i'm sure it won't be. i wish she was still working with Jacques Lu Cont.

coulda sworn someone would have said 'M.i.a.' in response to this question
Which producers/musicians should Madonna work with
turns out said thread ended in 2003!

piscesx, Friday, 3 February 2012 20:41 (six years ago) Permalink

ha, this is terrible!

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 February 2012 22:00 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, she certainly got everyone's attention.

I don't even know what to expect Saturday.

Raymond Cummings, Friday, 3 February 2012 22:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Zomg the chorus bit sounds EXACTLY like the verses to "Bohemian Like You". Excellent call.

This really isn't very good. I mean, it's better than "4 Minutes", but.. uh yeah, it's probably worse than every song off American Life.

this pooper, give it to her in the christmas (edwardo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Yes, it's worse than "Hollywood".

this pooper, give it to her in the christmas (edwardo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:44 (six years ago) Permalink

Good God that rap in the middle is HORRID.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 4 February 2012 06:03 (six years ago) Permalink

No way is this better than "4 Minutes"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:37 (six years ago) Permalink

tracklisting

- Girls Gone Wild
- Gang Bang
- I'm Addicted
- Some Girls
- I Don't Give A
- Turn Up the Radio
- Give Me All Your Luvin'
- B-day Song
- Superstar
- I'm a Sinner
- Masterpiece
- Falling Free
- Love Spent
- I Fucked Up
- Beautiful Killer

piscesx, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

that's hilarious

Number None, Saturday, 4 February 2012 14:46 (six years ago) Permalink

see i don't know if that's for real or not.
gang bang?

pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:00 (six years ago) Permalink

ay tis real alright.
http://itunes.apple.com/us/preorder/mdna-deluxe-edition/id499007632

there's a *pre order only* exclusive bonus track too; so like.. a song you can only get if you order before the release date. that's a new one on me.

piscesx, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

jeezus, it IS 4real.

b-day song!!!

pandemic, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:03 (six years ago) Permalink

She fucked up

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Lana Del Rey's tracklisting reads better than this tbh

Flag post? I hardly knew her! (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Fresh manure for the zing garden

flog this poster for moderation (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:30 (six years ago) Permalink

DRDFL

Jeff W, Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:31 (six years ago) Permalink

DNFW MDNA WTF LOL

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:33 (six years ago) Permalink

- I'm Addicted (Simple Plan cover)
- Some Girls (Rolling Stones cover)
- Turn Up the Radio (Autograph cover)
- Give Me All Your Luvin' (ZZ Top cover)
- B-day Song (traditional)
- Superstar (Carpenters cover)
- Masterpiece (Atlantic Starr cover)

da croupier, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:45 (six years ago) Permalink

is this confirmed dubstep yet

lag∞n, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Lourdes hasn't left her room since the tracklisting was revealed

da croupier, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:48 (six years ago) Permalink

oh and

Gang Bang (Sensational Alex Harvey Band cover)

da croupier, Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:51 (six years ago) Permalink

Bidet Song

‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

cannot stop laughing at "I Fucked Up"

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Just heard the single. Nothing special, but at least it ain't dubstep.

Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:22 (six years ago) Permalink

I liked this song a lot better when it was called "What the Hell" and it was by Avril Lavigne.

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:31 (six years ago) Permalink

I didn't.

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Sunday, 5 February 2012 05:32 (six years ago) Permalink

L-U-V Madonna
Y-O-U You wanna

parents are soooo embarrassing

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Sunday, 5 February 2012 13:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Just heard the single. Nothing special, but at least it ain't dubstep.

It has a dubstep-lite break in the middle.

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 16:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Just watched the video for the first time. Song's okay, video's better. I'm not sure why there's breast-feeding, but it's pretty funny. When did old people start enlisting young people to keep up appearances? Neil Young/Pearl Jam...Aretha/George Michael...Neil Young/Devo--how far back does that go?

clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Bing Crosby/David Bowie

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Frank Sinatra/Nancy Sinatra

da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Nice! Sincerely wondering this in terms of pop music, though. I don't think any of the '50s guys--Elvis, Berry, etc.--ever actually engaged in this sort of thing, at least not on record, unless I'm forgetting something; they did get career boosts from things like Lennon's Rock and Roll Revival show. Mitigating factors aside, Frank and Nancy might be a good starting point.

http://swizzworld.com/living/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/basquiatWarhol.jpg

clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Anyway, while Nicki Minaj doesn't need the visibility, I'm sure MIA gets more out of Madonna than vice versa.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:33 (six years ago) Permalink

oh man, i totally disagree with that
unless you mean how much she got paid

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I meant something more like who's a bigger help to whom in terms of widening her current audience. Just guessing. I was probably thinking of my grade 6 class: 100% of them know who Nicki Minaj is, two-thirds know Madonna, and I'd be surprised if even half have heard of MIA. But that's a pretty narrow perspective, so you're probably right.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 17:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I see no way in which Madonna gets more out of an MIA guest appearance than MIA gets out of guesting on a Madonna single

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:18 (six years ago) Permalink

(IOW forks=crazypants)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

dan are you seriously suggesting that the woman who won an oscar for best song in a movie and who rapped with kanye and jay at the grammys while she was pregnant is desperately in need for exposure?

Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties. Nicki and MIA have FOUR BARS apiece on this track. They are there as a sap to those two audiences; no one is gonna listen to that madge track and say, hey I should check this MIA chick out!

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Mid-90s? Hung up came out in 2005

just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

lol, i had to google it.
yeah i guess you're right there but it looks like a burp to me

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:32 (six years ago) Permalink

U r crazy then

just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:33 (six years ago) Permalink

okay.

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:33 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't rate much madonna past ray of light really. i'd like to?

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:34 (six years ago) Permalink

Hung up is just super classic to me

just sayin, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

x2

‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:37 (six years ago) Permalink

I think we can assume that both MIA and Madonna were happy to help each other, and found this collaboration to be mutually beneficial.

da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:40 (six years ago) Permalink

apparently the remix of this track will feature LMFAO, let's debate who's winning there

da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:42 (six years ago) Permalink

i hope we can all agree it's not the listening public

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

dan are you seriously suggesting that the woman who won an oscar for best song in a movie and who rapped with kanye and jay at the grammys while she was pregnant is desperately in need for exposure?

Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties. Nicki and MIA have FOUR BARS apiece on this track. They are there as a sap to those two audiences; no one is gonna listen to that madge track and say, hey I should check this MIA chick out!

You are massively underselling/misunderstanding Madonna's position in pop music. The woman is a still-working pop legend; the appearance of both Nicki and MIA on this are pandering moves to current pop and indie dance audiences but the reason they both said yes* is because IT'S FUCKING MADONNA.

* though in fairness, Nicki would have said yes if it was Diamanda Galas; she seems to be addicted to guest spots

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:53 (six years ago) Permalink

it's also noteworthy these ladies did not just sign up to rap for twenty seconds but walk behind madonna in cheerleader outfits shouting "L-U-V! MADONNA!"

da croupier, Sunday, 5 February 2012 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

x3

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Gimme All Your Luv has some similarities with Beautiful Stranger and Amazing from the Music album. If the album is kind of like that then I would get more excited it for it.

I do wonder why she is going back to her Bridget Bardot/Truth or Dare pale look though.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:19 (six years ago) Permalink

the reason they both said yes* is because IT'S FUCKING MADONNA.

no argument; the question was who gets "more" out of it and the idea that we're discussing exactly what "more" is in this context makes me feel like a moron so I'm happily conceding whatever your position is

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:27 (six years ago) Permalink

lilbro: i agree with you except those were the parts of Music I found most unlistenable

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Are you serious? Those were the highlights for me. His more lean production with the electric guitar is why I love that album. A great balance to what would've been a preening, pretentious synth album.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:32 (six years ago) Permalink

i had to fire up music for the first time in like six years to check but yeah i LIKED the preening, pretentious synth elements!

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:37 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah they were great at the time when she was doing it when it initially released but they can get irksome if not in the right mood. Plus, I do miss listening to Madonna with a guitar/bass/piano/whatever rockist boring instrument every once in a while.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:40 (six years ago) Permalink

Madonna hasn't had youth/critical culture impact since like the mid-nineties

I'd push that a little forward to include Music, but I basically agree. Which is not an aesthetic judgement on the the two or three albums that followed, and I love lots of music made by people who are on the other side of their moment or whatever you want to call it.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 February 2012 19:52 (six years ago) Permalink

The other side of their moment usually equals to young pop fans who can't fathom listening to someone past the age of 25.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Sunday, 5 February 2012 20:22 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't rate much madonna past ray of light really. i'd like to?

try listening to it? that's be a start

The other side of their moment usually equals to young pop fans who can't fathom listening to someone past the age of 25.

ehhh these people need a slap but it might not be worth the effort as they'll learn anyway

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:15 (six years ago) Permalink

dan are you seriously suggesting that the woman who won an oscar for best song in a movie and who rapped with kanye and jay at the grammys while she was pregnant is desperately in need for exposure?

does anyone under the age of 40 who isn't a music critic or film critic or industry flack pay attention to these awards

mh, Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:39 (six years ago) Permalink

uh, lex I did? I liked Music fine but it felt flimsy; American Life was terrible and after two listens Hard Candy left zero impact. Hung Up was, what, '08? I only vaguely remember it; it was clearly not for me.

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:40 (six years ago) Permalink

mh: everyone who buys us or people or star or whatever the hell sure does. She was watermelon big at the grammys, it got a lot of press. the oscar thing with rahman was huge international news for like a week.

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:41 (six years ago) Permalink

iirc Music was one of the last commercial bootleg discs i bought from a guy on the street

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 5 February 2012 23:42 (six years ago) Permalink

do people listen or buy music based on those, though? I dunno, I guess they might

mh, Monday, 6 February 2012 00:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Did she just slip on the bleachers?

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 February 2012 01:05 (six years ago) Permalink

MIA giving the finger! that was the highlight for me anyway.

piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 01:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Better than LMFAO and the guy on the tightrope I guess

curmudgeon, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:13 (six years ago) Permalink

feel like 25 year old me woulda had a conniption fit at cee-lo and madonna singing like a prayer at the superbowl. ten years later the thrill is gone.

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:17 (six years ago) Permalink

WOLD PEACE lol

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:17 (six years ago) Permalink

LMMFAO

― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 05:14 (2 days ago)

prescient

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:18 (six years ago) Permalink

supposedly the network tried to blur the finger a second late!

piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 02:19 (six years ago) Permalink

yep, it was clear

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Better than LMFAO and the guy on the tightrope I guess

Potential mixtape title: Man on W.I.R.E.

‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:51 (six years ago) Permalink

They should have blurred LMFAO instead

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:59 (six years ago) Permalink

wow. she sucked.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Blech

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 6 February 2012 05:38 (six years ago) Permalink

i was laughing my ass off at the cleopatra intro, it was so absurd. everything else sucked

Assmaster (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:46 (six years ago) Permalink

Why do you think she sucked? I thought that was the second most entertaining halftime show of the past decade after Prince (which is fitting, really)

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 05:55 (six years ago) Permalink

D-I-E MADONNA

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:04 (six years ago) Permalink

nicki minaj and mia poor sods

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:04 (six years ago) Permalink

actually half time show wa decent dan, hate madonna bending ppl who should know better to her will, but shur tis all about da moolah

Michael B Higgins (Michael B), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:05 (six years ago) Permalink

dan, mostly because of song choices i guess (i think Music sucks, and I think whatever that new pile of crap is, is crap), and Vogue didnt really get a fair shake with the medley treatment. from a production standpoint it was pretty good though

Assmaster (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:31 (six years ago) Permalink

I enjoyed the show. I especially liked the Vogue and Open My Heart parts. If people weren't going to like it then why watch it? I guess hate watching is the thing to do.

Tired of these edcuated basic bitches. (lilsoulbrother), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:47 (six years ago) Permalink

i was watching the game and didnt feel like changing the channel during halftime.

Assmaster (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:51 (six years ago) Permalink

i didn't watch it to hate it. it just happened.

"bruh" is the black bro (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 06:59 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't have much invested in madonna at this point. and i hate pro sports w/passion. still i wanted to like this. honestly it reeked of desperation. nikki! MIA!! pom-poms!!! medley!!!! C-LO!!!!! gospel choir!!!!! WORLD PEACE

and seeing her cavort with those LMFAO goons was flat-out depressing

demolition with discretion (m coleman), Monday, 6 February 2012 10:41 (six years ago) Permalink

had to laugh at LMFAO pretending to use Pioneer CDJs live, miming doing a loop on them.

piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 11:37 (six years ago) Permalink

haha I didn't even think about that ^

crüt, Monday, 6 February 2012 11:38 (six years ago) Permalink

I didn't think it was awful. I liked "Open Your Heart" too but wished she'd done Express Yourself. Anyway, like A Prayer is one of my favorite songs so I was pretty excited about that. Think it's pretty clear that the star was totally that crazy tightrope walking guy.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:06 (six years ago) Permalink

I loved it except for "Like a Prayer" (a song I've never liked, so it wasn't the performance). Thought "Vogue" was fantastic, "Music" was great because of LMFAO, and after first thinking the new video saved a just slightly-better-than-average song, I'm now really starting to take to the song. Back when Madonna was going through her outrage-a-week phase in early '90s, I wrote a couple of times about how manufactured I thought her Sam Kinison routine on Letterman was. I think it's funny how in 2012, she now delegates her controversies!

clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:33 (six years ago) Permalink

She did slip in a little "Open Your Heart"...just a few seconds, though, right?

clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:34 (six years ago) Permalink

May as well post this while it's up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROkhklj0ZGs

clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:37 (six years ago) Permalink

xp yeah reading a transcript in Q mag of that Letterman interview was a bit of an off-the-bus moment for me with Madge until Ray Of Light came out. actually *watching* the clip years later on You Tube i realised that she looked really messed up and miserable and kinda out-of-control.

piscesx, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:44 (six years ago) Permalink

AM I nuts or did she almost fall back a bit when she was on the bleacher things at one point. I swear I saw it but nobody else I was watching with seemed to.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:50 (six years ago) Permalink

"sucked" is too harsh. I didn't care for the dance routines; she looked distracted. Maybe she thought the centurion belt was as fetching as I did.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 12:53 (six years ago) Permalink

I read an account this morning that said she had a misstep at one point, so that must have been it. I missed it, or else I just thought she was, uh, voguing.

clemenza, Monday, 6 February 2012 12:54 (six years ago) Permalink

Watching it now. New single sounds fantastic. Love Nicki & MIA's expressions when they're crossing pom-poms.

"WORLD PEACE" is a classic banality bomb.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Monday, 6 February 2012 13:00 (six years ago) Permalink

OK yeah I just saw a replay on the news - she definitely nearly fell backwards. She did recover quickly tho.

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 13:04 (six years ago) Permalink

She's a true professional

da croupier, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:54 (six years ago) Permalink

And while I'm tempted to ask why she bothers, that Jay Leno and Jerry Seinfeld bother is an even bigger question

da croupier, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:56 (six years ago) Permalink

that was fun! just watched it. like a prayer 4ever.

scott seward, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

AM I nuts or did she almost fall back a bit when she was on the bleacher things at one point. I swear I saw it but nobody else I was watching with seemed to.

― wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, February 6, 2012 7:50 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah i saw it too

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

pretty pissed that she didn't do "hung up"

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 15:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Huh, that was OK. Superbowl halftime is like the closest we can come as a country to true OTT Euro-style spectacle. I'm sure the crowd and audience alike would have been better entertained by one of those full-on drum, cheer and dance corp LMFAO renditions, though.

Hung Up would have been a better choice than Music.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:25 (six years ago) Permalink

that wasn't bad. not life-changing but enjoyable - she looked relaxed, which she hasn't for a while, and that was a strong selection from her back catalogue.

i like "music" better than "hung up", i think. or about the same. both classics!

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:34 (six years ago) Permalink

I've always thought Music was lame. Don't Tell Me ftw.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:39 (six years ago) Permalink

"music" was her last US megahit. "hung up" wasn't really super bowl setslist-level big.

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:43 (six years ago) Permalink

"Hung Up" also went platinum and "4 Minutes" went double-platinum according to Wikipedia

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:44 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah but "music" is the closest thing to "vogue"-level universal she's made in the last x years

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

and she wasn't gonna do TWO post-'90s hits in addition to the new single, so "music" it is

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 15:46 (six years ago) Permalink

I have never liked "Music".

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:47 (six years ago) Permalink

"Music mix the bourgeoisie and the rebels"
#OccupySuperBowl

‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Monday, 6 February 2012 15:48 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't like "Music" either, i'm just saying it's ridic to even expect "Hung Up"

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:14 (six years ago) Permalink

I think you're underselling how successful "Hung Up" was:

"Hung Up" peaked at number one in charts of 41 countries and earning a 2007 place in the Guinness Book of World Records, as the song topping the charts in most countries.[27] It also remains one of the best-selling singles of all time, with sales of over nine million copies worldwide.[28] In the United States, "Hung Up" debuted at twenty on the Billboard Hot 100 on the issue dated November 5, 2005. It became her highest opening position since "Ray of Light" entered the chart at five in 1998. The same week the song entered the Hot Digital Songs chart at number six and became the highest debuting single of the week on the Pop 100 Airplay, where it debuted at thirty-eight.[29] On the issue dated December 7, 2005, the song entered the top ten of the Billboard Hot 100 at seven, which became its peak, jumping from position fourteen of the previous week. The song became the chart's greatest digital gainer for that week and claimed the top position on the Hot Digital Songs chart.[30] It also tied Madonna with Elvis Presley for thirty-six top ten hits,[31] which was subsequently broken by Madonna's 2008 song "4 Minutes", which peaked at three on the Hot 100. "Hung Up" debuted at numbers twenty-five and ten on the Hot Dance Club Play and Hot Dance Airplay charts respectively ultimately reaching the top of both charts.[32][33][34] It became the most successful dance song of the 2000s in the United States, by topping the Dance/Club Play Songs Decade-end chart.[35] The song also reached a peak of seven on the Pop 100 chart.[32] On August 18, 2008, the single was certified platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America for selling at least a million copies in paid digital downloads.[36] As of April 2010, the song has sold 1.2 million digital units in the United States.[37]

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:15 (six years ago) Permalink

although I would have really lolled if she's done "4 Minutes":

In the United States, "4 Minutes" debuted at number sixty-eight on the Billboard Hot 100 chart for the issue dated April 5, 2008, based solely on airplay.[21] Within a week, the song had jumped sixty-five places, reaching number three on the chart. This leap was spurred by first-week digital sales of 217,000, enabling the song to enter Billboard's Digital chart at number two, behind Mariah Carey's single "Touch My Body". The song became Madonna's first top-ten single since "Hung Up" (2005), and was her thirty-seventh Hot 100 top-ten hit, breaking the record previously held by Elvis Presley.[22] "4 Minutes" was also her highest-charting single on the Hot 100 since "Music" reached the top of the chart in 2000. For Timberlake, "4 Minutes" became his ninth top-ten hit.[23] On the Pop 100 chart, the song reached a peak of two.[24] "4 Minutes" was a success on Billboard's dance charts, topping both the Hot Dance Club Play and the Hot Dance Airplay charts.[25][26] Four months after its release, "4 Minutes" was certified double platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) for sales of two million paid digital downloads. It is her second single to achieve multi-platinum certification, after "Vogue" (1990), and it is one of her best-selling songs in the United States.[27] As of September 2010, it had sold 2.8 million digital downloads in the United States.[28] "4 Minutes" was the tenth most downloaded song in the United States in 2008, according to Nielsen SoundScan.[29] In Canada, Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems (BDS) confirmed that "4 Minutes" debuted at the top of the Canadian Contemporary Hit Radio chart. This marked the first time any song entered at the top of the CHR chart in BDS history.[30] The song debuted at number twenty-seven on the Canadian Hot 100 on March 27, 2008,[31] and topped the chart the next week.[32] The song spent nine non-consecutive weeks at the top of the chart.[33]

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

i know it was successful, i'm saying "Music" was more successful, especially in the U.S.

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

well thank god she didn't play "4 minutes"

J0rdan S., Monday, 6 February 2012 16:17 (six years ago) Permalink

if a superstar with a deep catalog is playing a high profile event for like 15 minutes, you can bet 'the biggest song from two or three albums ago' is not on the agenda

some dude, Monday, 6 February 2012 16:18 (six years ago) Permalink

never forget:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrZ3A06Wkdc

omar little, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:13 (six years ago) Permalink

People complaining about the medley aspect obviously haven't watched a Super Bowl halftime show in the past decade.

I thought she looked pretty good and was having fun.

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:14 (six years ago) Permalink

this was pretty fun and ridiculous and p much exactly what you'd expect from a super bowl halftime show

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:15 (six years ago) Permalink

^^^ otm

But my favorite Madonna moment of the weekend was the Guy Fieri sketch on SNL when his Madonna tribue dish was a "weird bucket of mussels".

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:17 (six years ago) Permalink

I thought it was sloppy and ridic and that she wasn't taking it v seriously, also way lol @ slipping on bleachers. That's not to say I didn't love it

tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:36 (six years ago) Permalink

<i>the Guy Fieri sketch on SNL when his Madonna tribue dish was a "weird bucket of mussels".</i>

YES this was hilarious.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:39 (six years ago) Permalink

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quick brown fox triangle (schlump), Monday, 6 February 2012 17:44 (six years ago) Permalink

After finally watching the superbowl thing, felt like the new song had the most energy by far, which is nice. The Give Me All Your Luvin' video is kind of disjointed, which put me off at first, but it's a good song.

Weird how between Parkour and Slacklining and Gymnastics and so on, Madonna is like a one-woman physical fitness ad for people who'll probably never progress past M's Tracy Anderson phase.

dlp9001, Monday, 6 February 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

cosign on Stevie D's comments 100%

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:03 (six years ago) Permalink

except i "loved" it

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:04 (six years ago) Permalink

btw, i always thought it was "music makes the bourgeois have a revel" is it really "music mixed the bourgeois and the rebels"?

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:06 (six years ago) Permalink

music makes the bourgeoisie and the rebel

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:07 (six years ago) Permalink

oh. see i was gonna say that didn't make any sense but man madonna is making me *think*

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:08 (six years ago) Permalink

lex, do you like to boogie woogie?

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:08 (six years ago) Permalink

makes them do WHAT????? god that always left me hangin

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:09 (six years ago) Permalink

(also I think "music makes the bourgeois have a revel" was hella more appropriate both for madge in general and the superbowl in particular)

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:09 (six years ago) Permalink

tracer: i am assuming she is saying Music is what leads to the creation of both the bourgeois class and of rebels against it

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:10 (six years ago) Permalink

i like to singy singy singy
like a bird on the wingy wingy wingy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khEcPEi2GNs

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

*thinks*

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Music makes the bourgeoises want to rebel?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 February 2012 18:12 (six years ago) Permalink

i'd forgotten that music is half a really amazing album (and half totally inessential but whatever). "impressive instant", "paradise (not for me)", "runaway lover">>>>>>>

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:31 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah it's good, not "kaputt" good, but def good

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

ggnnnnnggghhhh

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

hahaha

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

When I was little I thought it "Music makes the boys run free. And, the rebel.

tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

lots of boys and one (1) rebel, running free, together

tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 February 2012 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

at a superbowl halftime show. forever.

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:19 (six years ago) Permalink

wtf was the deal with the sword fight sfx during "vogue"?

the arm (NZA), Monday, 6 February 2012 19:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"Hung Up" was massive everywhere in the world except the US, where it peaked in the top ten but tumbled quickly

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:01 (six years ago) Permalink

That's because the rest of the world loves ABBA a million times more than the US ever did. Though if the song sampled "Dancing Queen" it'd be a different story.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:05 (six years ago) Permalink

There's truth to that. Timing didn't help: if she'd released "Hung Up" after Mamma Mia it might have worked -- or asked Meryl Streep to sing it.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:06 (six years ago) Permalink

It's also because US radio wasn't playing dance music in 2005.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 6 February 2012 20:07 (six years ago) Permalink

that dude was very impressive in showing America all the different way a man can rack himself on a tightrope

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

That dude was the best.

http://s3-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/2/5/23/anigif_enhanced-buzz-17172-1328503210-36.gif

(Just stealing those from the spbwl thread now but I can't not because they're so good - thanks Am0n)

wolf kabob (ENBB), Monday, 6 February 2012 20:58 (six years ago) Permalink

i loved the little sha-shingggggg sword sounds in vogue!

also that was a "slack rope" fyi

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:07 (six years ago) Permalink

yeah i imagine it was when he got home too

ELI OWNS YOUR HUSBAND (forksclovetofu), Monday, 6 February 2012 21:10 (six years ago) Permalink

"Boring game. Also, I don't understand that twenty minute musical commercial for Walking Dead at halftime."
- Walter Chaw's (of Film Freak Central) twitter

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:03 (six years ago) Permalink

oh yeah the slacklining guy! definitely the weirdest superbowl ever.

the arm (NZA), Monday, 6 February 2012 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

If it's a triple pun, it may be the first triple pun in pop music since "12 Inches of Snow."

"12 Inches of Snow" is a quadruple pun, actually. It can refer to:
1) A vinyl record.
2) The canadian weather.
3) A cocaine line.
4) The artist's penis.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 09:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Hey Tuomas, thanks for making me think about Snow's penis at 8am ;)

she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:07 (six years ago) Permalink

That seems like a lot of cocaine

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:20 (six years ago) Permalink

Is that Art Garfunkel in the first gif?

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 13:37 (six years ago) Permalink

Are there two covers? I'd guess one is standard, one is deluxe. Anyway, I like this alternate one:

http://i.imgur.com/u7IeZ.jpg

Johnny Fever, Friday, 10 February 2012 19:17 (six years ago) Permalink

So is LMFAO on the single, or is that a new remix making the radio rounds already? LOL at the idea of MDNA piggybacking on the popularity of LMFAO.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Madonna broke her silence Friday morning on the uproar that followed her Super Bowl XLVI halftime show, which was upstaged when fellow performer M.I.A. appeared to curse and gave the middle finger to the more than 110 million viewers watching.

Madonna said that she only learned of the antics after the fact -- and was none too pleased.

"I was really surprised," she told Ryan Seacrest during a call-in interview to "On Air With Ryan Seacrest." "I didn't know anything about it. I wasn't happy about it. I understand it's punk rock and everything, but to me there was such a feeling of love and good energy and positivity, it seemed negative."

She added: "It's such a teenager … irrelevant thing to do … there was such a feeling of love and unity there, what was the point? It was just out of place."

Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:19 (six years ago) Permalink

I figured she'd be pissed.

I tried to buy presale tickets for her Philly show this morning; they're priced at $90, $170, and $355. The best seats $170 would get me were BEHIND THE STAGE; what the fuck is that? P fucking disgusted atm. Hopefully they'll have better seats when tickets go on sale for real. Do ticket presales usually suck?

tropical mall lady (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:25 (six years ago) Permalink

"I understand it's punk rock and everything"
"I understand it's punk rock and everything"
"I understand it's punk rock and everything"
you're late for your yoga class btw

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

don't a lot of big touring acts now sell tickets 'behind the stage' explicity because they've built some kind of rotating stage setup so nobody's always seeing the performers' backs? just saying

some dude, Friday, 10 February 2012 20:34 (six years ago) Permalink

i am all for madonna embracing her status as crabby old grande dame tbh

first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:40 (six years ago) Permalink

if only mia had given head to a bottle instead of flipped off the crowd, much classier

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Friday, 10 February 2012 20:53 (six years ago) Permalink

With someone like Madonna, there is no "behind the stage." When I saw her behind "American Life," the moving stage was as radical as anything I'd seen from U2, and I imagine many in the worst seats got some of the best views.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 February 2012 21:05 (six years ago) Permalink

Superbowl halftime show possibly inspired by this fanvid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNRjzUB7Afo

This was featured in a NYT article in 2007 so it's not a stretch to imagine that someone in Madonna's camp saw it! And maybe secretly plotted for a Superbowl halftime show from that day forward XD.

The BBC had to play a 15 minute montage over stirring trumpets and heterosexual rap to get the manliness level back up after the Madonna interlude.

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:31 (six years ago) Permalink

Also, MIA's four bar rap borrows lyrics from BoA:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPmqrk0sPcM

hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 12 February 2012 00:33 (six years ago) Permalink

good catch!

little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 12 February 2012 01:04 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

Second single proceeds from the assumption that "Get Together" was way too accomplished:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMiYJ7kzbI&feature=player_embedded#!

Tim F, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh good jesus god, that's atrocious.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:48 (six years ago) Permalink

her delivery on this is so leaden and perfunctory

lex pretend, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:50 (six years ago) Permalink

like, i don't think the song would be amazing if it was sung by someone with a trace of excitement in their voice but madonna just kills it stone dead

lex pretend, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:51 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm glad Tim set up Get Together as a comparison, because it only emphasizes how tossed off and uninvigorated this piece of crap is.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 February 2012 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

this sounds like a demo...

skip, Monday, 27 February 2012 19:39 (six years ago) Permalink

It is kind of amazing how completely bored she sounds

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Someone who didn't know English and had to sing it phonetically would probably still do a better job

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 27 February 2012 20:07 (six years ago) Permalink

That doesn't just sound like a demo, it sounds like a Ke$ha demo.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:08 (six years ago) Permalink

No way, Kesha is far more into what she's singing at any given point.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:09 (six years ago) Permalink

I said demo.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Ke$ha wouldn't blow her million dollar pipes on a demo.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 27 February 2012 20:12 (six years ago) Permalink

This sounds "effortless" in the most literal and worst possible way. Not to mention the lyrics! Just awful!

daavid, Monday, 27 February 2012 22:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Shit, this song gives me serious bad flashbacks to this one time I did E and then my friend bailed on me and I had to go sleep at a bathhouse. But seriously, no Madonna lyrics will ever be as bad as:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkr3xtBRcKI

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:31 (six years ago) Permalink

I Love New York's lyrics are at least buoyed by resting atop a pretty great piece of music. Girl Gone Wild is just garbage from beginning to end.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:35 (six years ago) Permalink

totally otm

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:41 (six years ago) Permalink

Smart enough to let Azari & III open for her but not produce some songs? She lost me.

Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:47 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm half-tempted to start a fb campaign urging her not to release this album in an effort to preserve her legacy. A hollow gesture, of course, because the label has already sunk a ton of money into it, but a gesture from the heart nonetheless.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 05:52 (six years ago) Permalink

"I feel like all the records on the radio right now have a homogenized quality to them. I've made a huge effort to try and not sound like everybody else,"

You're Madonna...you shouldn't have to try!

Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 06:34 (six years ago) Permalink

where oh where is the dave q madonna thread?

geeta, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:16 (six years ago) Permalink

some fabulous artwork this year

http://edge0.viagogo.net/images/categoryimages/concerts/madonna/madonnaemail2012_c1.jpg?v=2119

piscesx, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:29 (six years ago) Permalink

oh stop, she's down

Little GTFO (contenderizer), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 08:33 (six years ago) Permalink

I've made a huge effort to try and not sound like everybod-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBMiYJ7kzbI

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:16 (six years ago) Permalink

where oh where is the dave q madonna thread?

hyurr! Madonna deserves her own thread(s), and here's mine...

a treasure of an opening post

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:19 (six years ago) Permalink

i think madonna may have finally reached jay-z status with me, where i actually think of the artist in their prime as an entirely separate person to the current artist, and there is no overlap at all in my mind

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 09:20 (six years ago) Permalink

otm, though for me she reached that point years ago

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:54 (six years ago) Permalink

even "music" was like basically a difft artist in my mind

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:55 (six years ago) Permalink

I am baffled by people who prefer new Madonna to "classic" Madonna.

Big Mr. Guess U.S.A. Champion (crüt), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:05 (six years ago) Permalink

there are people who think that?! surely not

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:18 (six years ago) Permalink

There's quite a sizeable number who think Ray of Light and Confessions are her best work, but I kind of put that down to an age thing, and maybe people disliking 80s production. For me "classic" Madonna (where she could do really no wrong) ended with the Evita vocal lessons which sucked all the warmth and life and the use of her lower register out of her voice, and now that the mannered imperiousness has vanished (which was the whole point of the lessons), we're just left with this lifeless catastrophe. The song is dire but she probably could have done something with it two decades ago.

prolego, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:21 (six years ago) Permalink

I'd want to give this song to the Madonna of "Burning Up" or "Open Your Heart" and see what she'd do with it, but she'd probably she'd just look at it and what she'd become with complete derision.

prolego, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:23 (six years ago) Permalink

i agree that the vocal lessons were on balance a bad thing but her post-evita voice didn't become an actual hindrance until confessions imo - it suits RoL completely, then on music andamerican life it didn't matter because those albums (at their best) were all about how she electronically manipulated and distorted her voice. on confessions the music is so dazzling that she gets away with it.

i only think of the current incarnation of madonna as starting post-2005, whatever you think of the 1998-2005 period vis-à-vis her 80s or early 90s stuff, it's far closer to that than to the shit she's coming out with now.

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:33 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, to my ears Confessions marked the only time her new voice worked on a whole album, thanks in large part to it being a dance record. The slower stuff on ROL and Music (e.g. "I Deserve It," "Mer Girl") is dreadful; even "Drowned World" boasts a couple of pompous moments, like when, to quote Rob Sheffield, she says "I had so many lah-VERS" as if she's never had one in her life.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:35 (six years ago) Permalink

What about What It Feels Like For a Girl? A great late slow song imo.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:44 (six years ago) Permalink

It works. I'd argue that's a ballad conceived as a dance track (the sonics, the way her voice sounds like it's looped).

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 12:47 (six years ago) Permalink

Re: Madonna's late voice & dance music, it's telling that both Hung Up and Sorry find her scolding somebody - not the whole album but the two big singles, and then Jump is hard-nosed self-help. The open-armed joy she could tap into on Into the Groove or Deeper and Deeper seems inaccessible to her now. Just a thought - there may be exceptions I'm forgetting.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:12 (six years ago) Permalink

"Deeper and Deeper" doesn't feel joyful at all (and that's part of what makes it so great)! But yeah I agree.

prolego, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:19 (six years ago) Permalink

that rings true - confessions marked the first time i felt M's voice thudded somewhat and felt flat. for a dance record it's curiously lacking in uninhibited joy. but yeah, that's pretty bang on about why "hung up", "sorry", "jump" and "push" work (and it's why i've felt that unlike those, "get together" works despite madonna rather than due to her).

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:21 (six years ago) Permalink

xp Ah OK, I find Deeper and Deeper pretty joyful, unlike most of Erotica. Ear of the beholder.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:25 (six years ago) Permalink

"deeper and deeper" = numbing trauma with hedonism, finding a kind of liberation in that anyway. it's complicated

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm half-tempted to start a fb campaign urging her not to release this album in an effort to preserve her legacy. A hollow gesture, of course, because the label has already sunk a ton of money into it, but a gesture from the heart nonetheless.

― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, February 28, 2012 12:52 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

because American Life and Hard Candy were so great that this is a shock

DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I want to lock Madonna in a room with just her guitar and see what she comes up with, because she needs a serious reboot.

thinveneer, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:58 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm sure that will work.

Tim F, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 13:59 (six years ago) Permalink

Was Ray of Light the last really "unique" thing she did? I mean obviously it too heavily drew from several sources but most of them iirc were sort of more out of the mainstream than, say, disco (re: Confessions).

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:03 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm sure that will work.

Grasping at straws.

thinveneer, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:07 (six years ago) Permalink

Was Ray of Light the last really "unique" thing she did?

"die another day"!

lex pretend, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:08 (six years ago) Permalink

you guys, this new song isn't amazing by any stretch of the imagination but it's a hell of a lot better than "Give Me All Your Luvin'"

also some dude OTM even though I loved American Life

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:12 (six years ago) Permalink

Not to get all rockisty or anything, I think part of the problem is that in Madonna's prime the radio still played standard ... songs, for lack of a better word. Things that could be played on piano or guitar. But the last few years the pop music pendulum has swung over to clubby anonymity, which is fine ... for the clubs. But on the radio there's not a lot of room for songs without a 4/4 stomp and a stupid hook. It's a shame Madonna is buying into that, but I don't see what choice she has, if she wants to get played. Ray of Light and Music were sort of a transitional hybrids allowed by the advent of "OMG dance music electronics!" (see also: Moby, Prodigy, anything with OMG electronics!). But now we're on the other side of that. Just hypothesizing, but top 40 has never seemed more ... digital disco.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:13 (six years ago) Permalink

you realize it's kind of silly to say music driven by MIDI synths can't be played on a piano, right

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:16 (six years ago) Permalink

it is a shame that the woman behind "burning up" and "holiday" has been reduced to digital disco

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:23 (six years ago) Permalink

At this point in her career, better this than jazz standards.

Fonz Hour (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:33 (six years ago) Permalink

More the case that her most comfortable sound is now pop's default setting and instead of accentuating the differences the new single merges with everything else, which makes her sound like one of many. Stuart Price's Confessions production is "digital disco" but it doesn't sound like David Guetta and this one does.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:36 (six years ago) Permalink

i don't even care enough about her to want to defend her but it seems off to not accept she's had club music from the start

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

(as opposed to "buying into it" now)

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost Anything can be played on piano or guitar - notes are notes and chords are chords - but it's not really ideal for this sort of thing. It's all about the thump and the rhythm/repetition; the robotic-ness is its appeal, not the melody. (/geir)

Just saying, you can sing Madonna's best stuff in the shower. Or in the car. Or wherever. The newer stuff is subservient to the beat. Which isn't a bad thing! But there are many people who do it better than Madonna.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:50 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't see the distinction. You can't really sing Vogue or Justify My Love in the shower. She's always had club tracks which don't make sense detached from the beat.

Suede - the fabric, not the band (DL), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:53 (six years ago) Permalink

I agree with that (though you can totally sing the chorus to Vogue!). But I'd still say songs like that are the clubby outliers of her ouevre. Lately she's been overtly playing catch-up with club trends rather than originating them, and the look doesn't suit her.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:54 (six years ago) Permalink

the only reason you can't sing Vogue in the shower is because no one remembers how the verses go

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

You can't really sing Vogue or Justify My Love in the shower.

believe me, you most certainly can.

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:01 (six years ago) Permalink

though you can't really sing Justify My Love at all

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:01 (six years ago) Permalink

xpost They goes like this: dooby-doo, dooby-doo-doo-do-do-doo-do, dooby-do-do-doo.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:02 (six years ago) Permalink

dooby-doo, dooby-doo-doo-do-do-doo-do, dooby-do-do-doo
(that's what it's for)

robbery by sudden snatching (DJP), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:07 (six years ago) Permalink

You do the Lenny Kravitz doh-doh-doh-dohhhh part and then you pick up the shower nozzle like a mic and say "Love me! That's Right! Love me!"

Fonz Hour (Eazy), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

You guys sound like Paul fucking McCartney.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:27 (six years ago) Permalink

Thumbs aloft!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 15:32 (six years ago) Permalink

How complex does a hook have to be before you can sing it in the shower?

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Exactly 39% complex.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:00 (six years ago) Permalink

I just mean I have no difficulty imagining LMFAO lyrics can be heard in your more tragic dorm bathrooms. The problem is less that new music is unsuitable to Madonna's gifts so much as Madonna's new music is tired. Cher pulled off digital disco ten years ago.

da croupier, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:04 (six years ago) Permalink

If Madonna tried to play "Into The Groove" on guitar it would sound like "I Deserve It."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:24 (six years ago) Permalink

Madonna's gift, as such, used to be (besides not sounding tired) not sounding like she was breathlessly, belatedly playing catch-up.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:29 (six years ago) Permalink

I just mean I have no difficulty imagining LMFAO lyrics can be heard in your more tragic dorm bathrooms. The problem is less that new music is unsuitable to Madonna's gifts so much as Madonna's new music is tired. Cher pulled off digital disco ten years ago.

― da croupier, Tuesday, February 28, 2012 11:04 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've never been happier to be done school.

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:21 (six years ago) Permalink

isn't "tragic dorm bathrooms" redundant

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 23:22 (six years ago) Permalink

a girl gone WILD
a good girl gone WILD

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 10:58 (six years ago) Permalink

But on the radio there's not a lot of room for songs without a 4/4 stomp and a stupid hook. It's a shame Madonna is buying into that, but I don't see what choice she has, if she wants to get played.

Seriously? It's Madonna, she'll get played whatever, she could afford to take more risks than pretty much anyone else. I haven't heard any of the new stuff but if it does just sound like Guetta-house then I'd put that down to lack of imagination rather than anything else. See also Hard Candy.

Homosexual Satan Wasp (Matt DC), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:01 (six years ago) Permalink

there's a good argument to be made that this new single is the worst thing that madonna has ever committed to record

lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 11:08 (six years ago) Permalink

IIRC Like A Virgin was half amazing singles and half unlistenable garbage.

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:01 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah. It was her weakest album for a couple of decades.

prolego, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:10 (six years ago) Permalink

surm won't tolerate any dissent re "Shooby Dooby Doo."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:28 (six years ago) Permalink

there's a good argument to be made that this new single is the worst thing that madonna has ever committed to record

"Revolver" pissed me off way more. Plus Evita (not really her fault).

dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:45 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't understand how this new boring song can be viewed as being worse than the actively terrible song she released right before it, not to mention the impressive string of drippy clunkers she's released throughout her entire career

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:47 (six years ago) Permalink

The worst thing about it is how it disinfects the word "erotic."

dead-trius (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Not even sure if it's better than the Paris Hilton sexting song.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:56 (six years ago) Permalink

I will never know about that because srsly fuck seeking out a Paris Hilton song, life is far too fucking short for that

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 14:57 (six years ago) Permalink

the song is actually seriously p amazing, but mostly because it was already a song that these people just had Paris re-do vocals for

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:13 (six years ago) Permalink

if she was gonna go this route, why didn't she just pay for the full max martin spa treatment. i mean, go to the source and don't mess around. even britney would have turned up her nose at the girls gone wild song.

scott seward, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:27 (six years ago) Permalink

there's a very condescending "meet them halfway" attitude madonna seems to have to catering to the charts that more and more ends up at the exact wrong halfway point

DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

Between the Super Bowl and this track I am p convinced she is just going through the motions w the bare minimum of effort. Who produced this? Maybe the Orbit tracks will redeem her?

I have one thing to say: "Roxanne Shanté" (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Most of her efforts these days lie in film-making.

prolego, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:31 (six years ago) Permalink

"Efforts."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:52 (six years ago) Permalink

Most of her efforts lie in trying to physically turn back the hands of time. Which is her prerogative, but she should't pretend her music is nearly as impressive as her physique.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 20:53 (six years ago) Permalink

Wouldn't want Madonna to get a big head.

da croupier, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:08 (six years ago) Permalink

there's a good argument to be made that this new single is the worst thing that madonna has ever committed to record

― lex pretend, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:08 AM (Yesterday)

I always think Jimmy Jimmy is the very worst thing she's ever recorded. Every year or so I listen to it and crrrringe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgL3A1VRSWI

garbage corn fan (Je55e), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:13 (six years ago) Permalink

oh it's cute, at worst negligible.

Plus, it was buried on the second side.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 March 2012 20:19 (six years ago) Permalink

you have to admit that madonna keeps up with linguistic fashion for using "punk rock" as an adjective. i'm serious about this.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 2 March 2012 08:47 (six years ago) Permalink

well doesn't that just make everyone feel like a knee-jerk everything's-gotta-be-a-drug-ref...ist

fauxmarc, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't even want to know what's happening back there

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

It's like opening the Necromonicon.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Q: is mymdna a social networking site for madonna fans?
A: well, there's already manhunt

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 6 March 2012 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

The Madonna-is-old jokes make you look bad and are...old. There's enough bad music being pumped out by this woman to poke fun at instead.

Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:25 (six years ago) Permalink

Well, I will say there is a distinction to be made between someone who is old and someone who is old and trying to act young. For sure Madonna has been "old" for a while now, both literally and figuratively, but in general she has surmounted society's prejudices. Not this time, though.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:29 (six years ago) Permalink

oh cmon, "opening the Necronomicon" is a good line

Pup Shalom Dog Costume (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 21:53 (six years ago) Permalink

how is that a "Madonna is old" joke

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:33 (six years ago) Permalink

The Necronomicon is old? Dead things are old?

BTW, I think Madonna's awesome mother/*ucker shirt was her smartest, cleverest statement on age.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:36 (six years ago) Permalink

Her arms are her worst.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 22:39 (six years ago) Permalink

But the best at cracking walnuts!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:02 (six years ago) Permalink

personally I'm waiting for someone to splice that anigif with the face-melting scene from Raiders

Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:03 (six years ago) Permalink

It was more a Madonna is evil rather than a Madonna is old joke, but hey.

Respectfully, Tyrese Gibson (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 00:05 (six years ago) Permalink

http://soundcloud.com/mdnareloaded/madonna-im-addicted

Thankfully this track is *much* better, but I mean it'd be exceedingly difficult to make something worse than GGW

Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Music gets pretty zzzzz around 0:24 but the vocals are pretty great throughout

Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 7 March 2012 15:06 (six years ago) Permalink

And now here's another snippet of a track ("Love Spent")

http://videolog.tv/video.php?id=761098

Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 8 March 2012 14:43 (six years ago) Permalink

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17297661

piscesx, Thursday, 8 March 2012 22:33 (six years ago) Permalink

o_O

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:28 (six years ago) Permalink

"Bad Girl" that's not.

Eric H., Monday, 19 March 2012 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

should I be happy my job blocked that URL

thuggish ruggish Brahms (DJP), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:29 (six years ago) Permalink

your job otm

Wesley Crusher: Teenage F#ck Machine (forksclovetofu), Monday, 19 March 2012 15:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Oh God, she's gone back to her American Life phase where every other word in the song is either "I" or "me."

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:02 (six years ago) Permalink

She's also gone back to her American Life phase of sucking.

I Fucked Up (jer.fairall), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 00:06 (six years ago) Permalink

Album appears to be in *ahem* circulation now. GGW was not just a bad choice to open the album, but a bad choice altogether (this can't be restated often enough).

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 04:44 (six years ago) Permalink

The album is shockingly pretty damn brilliant. The singles are somehow the worst songs on the album (which for someone with 30 years experience in the industry and for being well Madonna is ridiculous).

prolego, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 05:01 (six years ago) Permalink

The acoustic "Love Spent" on one of the deluxe editions is pretty goddamn great.

Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Friday, 23 March 2012 23:48 (six years ago) Permalink

"B-Day Song" is like some ridiculous joke and I absolutely adore it

Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 24 March 2012 01:42 (six years ago) Permalink

so is this one of those cases where you have to get the deluxe editions to get the better tracks ?

mark e, Monday, 26 March 2012 13:50 (six years ago) Permalink

has she ever attempted a song like "B-Day Song"? It's like ABBA attempting a kid's song played on live instruments by Muppets.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 14:16 (six years ago) Permalink

"i'm addicted" is pretty awesome

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:06 (six years ago) Permalink

and i'm not sure about "gang bang" but it's... genuinely disturbing

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 26 March 2012 15:10 (six years ago) Permalink

"gang bang" is the best thing here imo

"i don't give a" and "i'm addicted" are the other two that stood out and if i'm being honest the chorus of "give me all your luvin'" is stuck in my head a great deal of the time. it sounds less good when i actually play it, because madonna's voice is a total husk now, it drags down decent songs/fails to elevate catchy-but-basic bubblegum tunes/sinks each of the ballads.

lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 15:45 (six years ago) Permalink

"i'm addicted" is great and sort of what i wanted this whole record to sound like, given the title mdna

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:00 (six years ago) Permalink

"Gang Bang" might grow on me but right now it's just super annoying

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:08 (six years ago) Permalink

haaaaaa I just got to the dubstep bridge

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:09 (six years ago) Permalink

well this whole song is just spectacularly falling apart

I just cannot take "DRIVE BITCH/NOW DIE BITCH" very seriously

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:11 (six years ago) Permalink

"I'm Addicted" is actually a good song

After the two singles and "Gang Bang", I was not expecting this

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:13 (six years ago) Permalink

"superstar" = worst madonna lyrics yet?

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:14 (six years ago) Permalink

well "I'm Addicted" was a good song until she ran out of ideas at the end and started aimlessly chanting "M! D! N! A"

holy fuck I am 30 seconds into "Turn Up The Radio" and I want to murder everyone I have ever known so that they don't accidentally hear it

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:16 (six years ago) Permalink

hahahahaha "i don't give a" is awesome, choral stuff at the end is so ott

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:18 (six years ago) Permalink

like, there are a bunch of components here on paper that I should really, really like, but it's put together in the most fucking annoying manner possible and I'm just sitting here thinking "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD"

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:19 (six years ago) Permalink

don't share your hate for "turn up the radio," dan. it's just kind of nothing

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:20 (six years ago) Permalink

although "Gimme All Your Luvin" is even more annoying, lol

"Some Girls" sounds like an anonymous diva house remix, which automatically makes it the second best song I've heard on this album so far

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:21 (six years ago) Permalink

okay "Superstar" is just PATHETIC

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:26 (six years ago) Permalink

"you're abe lincoln / cuz you fight for what's right"

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:27 (six years ago) Permalink

hoo boy

"I Don't Give A" reminds me a little too much of "Top That!" from "Teen Witch":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEa1BYBgeQI

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:29 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I think I'ma skip this one.

hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:29 (six years ago) Permalink

it's better than hard candy?

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:30 (six years ago) Permalink

I don't think I'd even give it that, based on what I've heard so far

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:32 (six years ago) Permalink

So then it's officially the worst album of all time. Check.

hot and brothered (Eric H.), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:35 (six years ago) Permalink

had the coda on "I Don't Give A" been the intro, it might have saved the song

"I'm A Sinner" sounds like it actually has quantizing issues, like they couldn't get the components of the loop to match up correctly; it's still the third-best song I've heard on this album

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:35 (six years ago) Permalink

"Love Spent" starts with a banjo, that's a good sign

haha and once that goes away the song gets much much much better

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:40 (six years ago) Permalink

did she just say "Frankly, if my name was Benjamin/We wouldn't be in the mess we're in"

oh Madonna

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:41 (six years ago) Permalink

"I want you to hold me like you hold your money/Hold me 'til there's nothing left"

this is still the third- or fourth-best song on the album

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:42 (six years ago) Permalink

oh god that lyric made my jaw drop when i first heard it

lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 18:42 (six years ago) Permalink

the benjamin one

lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 18:42 (six years ago) Permalink

... O_O

I... I genuinely like "Masterpiece"

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:43 (six years ago) Permalink

this is EASILY the best song on the album so far

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:45 (six years ago) Permalink

"you're abe lincoln / cuz you fight for what's right"

http://healthsolutionbd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/bush-shock-1.jpg

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:46 (six years ago) Permalink

okay what the fuck, "Falling Free" just started and why do I like the ballads so much??

Lyrically, it's still kind of inane but at least she sounds like she has a personality and the melody does more than just sit on one note for entire verses

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:49 (six years ago) Permalink

Lyrically, it's still kind of inane but at least she sounds like she has a personality

this really surprises me b/c i think even more than the underwritten songs, lyrical clunkers and uninspiring producers, madonna's terrible terrible delivery is what sinks the album - someone with a semblance of character could've rescued even the inane songs but she sounds bored and rigid and characterless for the most part, and this is especially the case where she's required to sound emotional (the ballads) or carefree (the bubblegum)

lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 18:52 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm with lex re her voice. It's as if this is what happens to billions spent on voice lessons and locution: after fifteen years the warranty runs out and she forgot to keep the receipt.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:55 (six years ago) Permalink

I completely agree that Madonna's delivery is terrible right up until the last two songs on the main album; "Beautiful Killer" is also much less irritating than the lion's share of the album.

haha oh my god "I Fucked Up" on the other hand is absolutely the terrible flat affect horseshit delivery you are calling out

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:56 (six years ago) Permalink

i've just realised dan hasn't got to "bday song" yet

*anticipates*

lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

(i agree that for some reason "beautiful killer" does work v well)

lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

"I Fucked Up" should have been double-time the whole song, it wouldn't come across quite so lifelessly

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:58 (six years ago) Permalink

"Bday Song" is my favorite.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

seriously though, she has zero awareness and zero people around her who give a shit if "I Fucked Up" in this form was allowed to go out the door

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 18:59 (six years ago) Permalink

what

what is happening here

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:00 (six years ago) Permalink

why are M.I.A. and Madonna singing over an interpolation of the Sesame Street theme song

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:01 (six years ago) Permalink

I am too bemused to make a judgement about this

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:01 (six years ago) Permalink

the vocals thing is particularly sad because her voice was so crazy good at elevating her (already classic) material - could anyone have done 'open your heart' or 'into the groove' or 'burning up' or 'crazy for you' as well as her? her 80's voice is one of pop's most underrated instruments. And I don't think there's any excuse to what it's become other than sheer laziness (which is SO NOT A GOOD LOOK on you madge).

prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:02 (six years ago) Permalink

hahahaha seriously what was that, though

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:03 (six years ago) Permalink

the bit where MIA asks to be spanked is particularly o_0

lex pretend, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:03 (six years ago) Permalink

oh shit "Best Friend" is kind of instantly appealing

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:03 (six years ago) Permalink

oh wow "masterpiece" is really good

Whiney vs. (BradNelson), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:03 (six years ago) Permalink

and yeah, this has zero to do with "voice lessons" and everything to do with "50+ year old woman on autopilot"

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:04 (six years ago) Permalink

has she ever attempted a song like "B-Day Song"? It's like ABBA attempting a kid's song played on live instruments by Muppets.

― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, March 26, 2012

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:04 (six years ago) Permalink

masterpiece has maybe the worst lyric on the album - "if you were the mona lisa you'd be hanging in the louvre' wtf is that.

prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:05 (six years ago) Permalink

(although the flat delivery really works on busy songs like "Best Friend" where she's kind of taking herself out of the way of the backing track and keeping some sense of space in the arrangement as a result)

xp: That is a statement of fact...? Nothing really beats the stupidity of "Love Spent" IMO

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:06 (six years ago) Permalink

lol okay as I suspected, I went back to "Bang Bang" and it's way more appealing than it was the first time I heard it

hate the little guitar sting tho

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:10 (six years ago) Permalink

all i have heard from this shit has been shit

surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:11 (six years ago) Permalink

so basically we have some songs I like without reservation ("Masterpiece", "Falling Free", "Beautiful Killer", "Best Friend"), some songs I would like more if they'd figured out how to end them before they fell apart ("Gang Bang", "I'm Addicted"), a wholly anonymous, innoffensive piece of nothing ("Some Girls"), a mind-meltingly STUPID song that manages to not be 100% terrible ("Love Spent"), a wholly odd thing I can't make heads nor tails of ("B-Day Song") and then everything else is SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT SHIT

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Better than Hard Candy then. Things are on the up.

prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:19 (six years ago) Permalink

i wish she would just zen out and do something ... creative, and relaxed

surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:21 (six years ago) Permalink

like what is she doing

surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:21 (six years ago) Permalink

I just put on Hard Candy (thx Spotify) and the first song alone makes a better impression than MDNA

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:21 (six years ago) Permalink

Yeah, I listened to Hard Candy a couple months ago and it didn't seem nearly as bad as I remembered. Four years from now will that happen with MDNA? Could, but it's unlikely.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

Thank god it's too hot and sunny for me to put on Erotica or Bedtime Stories.

prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

also I always a big fan of "Four Minutes"

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:24 (six years ago) Permalink

i just don't understand why this is the kind of thing she thinks ppl would want to hear on E

is she really that out of touch

confessions was definitely the E album. the moment's over. get a new idea.

surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:25 (six years ago) Permalink

honestly if i heard this rolling i think i would spontaneously vomit

surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Erotica was the E album! xp

prolego, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:26 (six years ago) Permalink

Erotica is the coke album.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:28 (six years ago) Permalink

Bedtime Stories is the Coke album.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:29 (six years ago) Permalink

I mean, even a song that is manifestly terrible as "Give It 2 Me" is still a level above most of this new shit just in terms of how it's put together

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:30 (six years ago) Permalink

put on erotica after smoking a little the other night and it was really just ... perfect

surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 19:31 (six years ago) Permalink

anyone in this thread rolling on Molly?

if you feeling frogbs, leap (The Reverend), Monday, 26 March 2012 19:37 (six years ago) Permalink

not atm :|

surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:30 (six years ago) Permalink

y, you holding?

Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Monday, 26 March 2012 20:32 (six years ago) Permalink

lol otm

surm, Monday, 26 March 2012 20:34 (six years ago) Permalink

I think what I like about "Love Spent" is that it seems like she got bored with it mid-way through and then started right into a completely different song. The alternative explanation is that there were so many writers on it (check the credits, there's 5 or 6 co-writers) that Orbit just grafted everything together and hoped for the best.

Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Monday, 26 March 2012 23:46 (six years ago) Permalink

is molly the US version of mandy?

lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:05 (six years ago) Permalink

americans: stick to weed slang, you're better at that than ecstasy slang

lex pretend, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:07 (six years ago) Permalink

This album has a billion songwriting credits.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 13:15 (six years ago) Permalink

Christgau:

Forget the four "Deluxe" extras, not one of which except maybe the pretty little "I F***ed Up" improves on the updated '90s arena-dance power tracks of the first 43 minutes, although they top the deadly-dreamy closer "Falling Free" as well as the penultimate "Masterpiece," which begins "If you were the Mona Lisa . . . ." Granted, I could mock "Ooh la la you're my superstar/Ooh la la that's what you are" just as easily. But lyrics have never been where she showed off her gorgeous brains, and anyway, the 10-track mix I propose as an alternative goes out on a real song called "Love Spent": "Hold me like your money/Tell me that you want me/Spend your love on me/Spend your love on me." Nikki Minaj shines bright, but she's no more crucial structurally than the cheerleaders who garnish "I'm Addicted" at its close and embellish "Give Me All Your Luvin'" throughout. Play loud. She's smart and she's proud. A MINUS

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:16 (six years ago) Permalink

what the hell

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:17 (six years ago) Permalink

lol he's finally lost it for good.

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:22 (six years ago) Permalink

that entire thing might as well say:

I had strained peas for dinner. I never thought about growing old when I was younger and the indignities aging would visit upon my body; the infirmity visited upon my limbs, the rapid deterioration of my eyesight, the unpredictable and embarrassing episodes of incontinence. Even now I don't know that I can trust that my mind is formulating coherent thoughts and that the words I am using to express myself are lucid once they have been written down. And yet, amidst all of this, the largest indignity I suffer is eating. That, and I like an extraordinarily crappy Madonna album. A MINUS

THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:28 (six years ago) Permalink

You get a free CD or digital download w each ticket purchased, and when you go to redeem them the header at the top of the page reads "Get your MDNA (clean) album" despite it not mentioning a clean version anywhere else in the email or on the redemption page. Ugh.

Joan Cusack clumsily running into a water fountain (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 27 March 2012 22:50 (six years ago) Permalink

what the hell indeed

Lil T the Bowed Jet (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 00:39 (six years ago) Permalink

Agree with people above...a lot of these songs would be pretty damn good if they were sung by someone who sounded like she was actually trying.

skip, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 02:56 (six years ago) Permalink

whoever had the idea of putting Girl Gone Wild as the opening track is outta their mind. gets loads better by track 3 but man by halfway through track 2 it was starting to sound like a 21st century version of

http://turntabling.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ethel-merman-disco-album.jpg

piscesx, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:18 (six years ago) Permalink

irl lols

Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 28 March 2012 05:22 (six years ago) Permalink

This miserable album entirely justified its existence once it resulted in me seeing that Teen Witch clip posted upthread.

Look At How Funky He Is! (jer.fairall), Friday, 30 March 2012 01:32 (six years ago) Permalink

You may enjoy this episode of Freaky Trigger and the Lollards of Pop, in which we play that clip on the radio....

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/ft/2010/11/freaky-trigger-and-the-lollards-of-pop-series-4-week-9/

TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 30 March 2012 09:59 (six years ago) Permalink

I'm Addicted is Confessions.. standard good IMHO.

piscesx, Friday, 30 March 2012 13:01 (six years ago) Permalink

It makes a difference hearing this thing in sequence. The two singles remain garbage but I can get down with "Gang Bang," "I'm Addicted," "Some Girls," and "I Don't Give A."

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 1 April 2012 18:06 (six years ago) Permalink

saying your name is somewhere between a prayer and a shout~

lex pretend, Friday, 6 April 2012 17:30 (six years ago) Permalink

Exclusive: Madonna MDNA Will Have Biggest Second Week Drop in Chart History

Madonna‘s “MDNA” album had the biggest second week drop in chart history last week, I am told. When all the numbers are in on Tuesday night, “MDNA” will have fallen from number 1 by 88%–from 359,000 copies in its first week to roughly 46,000 the second week. Wow. The first week’s sales, as I revealed exclusively (and then the New York Post lifted it from us), most of Madonna’s first week sales were CDs that were included in the sale of concert tickets. That promotion artificially inflated Madonna’s numbers, putting her first before Lionel Richie and his “Tuskegee” album. In the second week, Richie fell only 47% and sold about 110,000 albums–which is normal. “Tuskegee” will now finish much higher than “MDNA.” I do think that all the people involved in the Madonna ticket-CD deal should apologize to Richie for denying him his rightful place at number 1, starting with Billboard and SoundScan. But Richie’s consolation is that he has a major hit, while “MDNA” is a total dud. So far, “MDNA” has not produced anything like a hit single either, no radio play or anything to provide organic promotion. But Madonna’s concert tour with Live Nation will be a big hit, so it’s not like we have to worry about her financial situation.

Reality Check Cashing Services (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 22:57 (six years ago) Permalink

Set list was revealed apparenty but I don't think I wanna spoil it

Time, a group with Jam and Lewis (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:01 (six years ago) Permalink

A friend and I were discussing this story last night, and how much more adeptly Richie has marketed himself to the Target and Walmart crowd.

Also, from what I've read and been told, it's a much better record than it has a right to be: better than Madonna's.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:04 (six years ago) Permalink

Lionel Richie has been ready for the middle-age market since before Madonna was recording

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:08 (six years ago) Permalink

whereas Madonna has no idea she IS the middle age market

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:10 (six years ago) Permalink

no way all the hip dance kids totally love her amirite

Disco Bob & MC Criminal (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:12 (six years ago) Permalink

she'll have her "believe" yet, i'm sure

da croupier, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:13 (six years ago) Permalink

read the comments on that Forbes article

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 23:13 (six years ago) Permalink

This whole Madonna/Lionel thing suddenly makes me feel like I'm living in a weirdo version of the 80s.

Look at how funky he is! (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 00:08 (six years ago) Permalink

oh yeah, i passed by an electronics/music store downtown that had a new release slate and it was
MADONNA
IRON MAIDEN
LIONEL RICHIE
KATY PERRY

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:56 (six years ago) Permalink

Leftsetz ragging on Madonna almost makes me want to buy this

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 14:21 (six years ago) Permalink

haha

The Reverend, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:16 (six years ago) Permalink

Madonna‘s “MDNA” album had the biggest second week drop in chart history last week, I am told.

well she's all about the drop these days right?

liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:53 (six years ago) Permalink

www.rimshot.com

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

which does not lead where i woulda thought it would

boy, was that Dan Fielding hungry for some cake! (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 17:57 (six years ago) Permalink

three months pass...

This album is not actually as unrelentingly terrible as you ppl say it is.

It does sound, however, like she went to all the trouble of throwing this amazing fabulous party - and then couldn't be bothered turning up for it.

I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 09:45 (six years ago) Permalink

Picks up considerably in the second half, so I'm glad I persisted with it. I Don't Give A and I'm A Sinner have been enjoyable circle rides where she stops crowing about how awesome it is Being Madonna, and gets back to the serious business of, y'know, being Madonna.

I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 09:58 (six years ago) Permalink

Holy shit, Falling Free.

I cannot believe the difference between the two halves of this album. Like, side 1, which is all "drugs, sex, shooting dudes in the head" is completely phoned in, like she didn't even turn up at the studio, went through the motions, etc. But then the second half, which is all "musings on life and love and ageing and the death and decay of impossible love" and then suddenly she stops phoning it in, and MADONNA turns up.

Like she's only doing the "yay, parties, clubbing!" stuff to fulfill contractual obligations, but the album tracks that come when that's out the way are subtly amazing.

I want to smother him in electronic butter. (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Friday, 3 August 2012 10:11 (six years ago) Permalink

It's actually pretty unrelentingly terrible.

I dont even know that I think this sucks per se (forksclovetofu), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:42 (six years ago) Permalink

completely forgot that this even came out

giallo pudding pops (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:44 (six years ago) Permalink

It does pick up towards the end, but after that tedious first half-hour I feel like "hey, this isn't completely crap" rather than "ok, this is a good song"

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 3 August 2012 19:50 (six years ago) Permalink

so glad this bombed in the US.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 August 2012 19:53 (six years ago) Permalink

By referring to Madonna as a fairground stripper, Elton has basically described 99% of all female pop singers out there today. Their shtick consists of look changes, showing a boob, showing a piece of ass, pretending to be bisexual etc etc etc. The saddest thing is that gay men have supported the careers of these women.

I honestly don't know why men who are interested sexually in men have gone and supported the careers of women who appeal sexually to men who are not like us. Strange, isn't it?

Posted by: jason | Aug 6, 2012 8:55:23 AM

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Here let me just fix that up for you

The saddest thing is that gay men have supported the careers of these women.

I honestly don't know why men who are interested sexually in men have gone and supported the careers of women who appeal sexually to men who are not like us. Strange, isn't it?

Posted by: jason | Aug 6, 2012 8:55:23 AM

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 6 August 2012 19:23 (six years ago) Permalink

I listened to Hard Candy a couple months ago and it didn't seem nearly as bad as I remembered.

I don't think I've ever been more wrong, more often, more vehemently, in as many different ways, over a longer period of time, and with as many supposedly clear-eyed self-revisions as with Madonna. There was never a Madonna album I liked on first listen. I'm still suddenly falling in love with old singles I hated. It's all on an upward curve, though, so there's something pleasingly right to me about her confidence, which makes me laugh. I feel silly offering strong opinions about her music at all anymore, one way or the other (given how much I now like Hard Candy, I suspect MDNA is better than this thread's borderline consensus, but of course I'm going to think that).

I will say, I now might vote the other way on that TS: Madonna vs. Elvis thread. The not-trying/not-showing-up-to-the-studio quality discussed above strikes me as a refinement of something that was always mysteriously there (or not there) in her singing. To me it's the sound of close, fascinated, concerned attentiveness to the contours of a melody just within reach of her ability, almost child-like with wonder or conscientiousness or both, but which winds up registering emotionally as all kinds of intimacy and attitude. Or maybe that's just me. Anyway, I'm beginning to think I'd love her if she'd never released anything but the last two albums...

Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 11 August 2012 00:28 (six years ago) Permalink

two weeks pass...

I am at the show in Philly right now. Her opening act is a DJ playing an hour-long set of 45-second snippets of songs while everyone just sits and watches.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:11 (six years ago) Permalink

Also he has played FOUR Madonna songs as well as the opening riff of "Eye Of The Tiger". This guy is the WORST and his only shot of redeeming himself is playing "If Madonna Calls" or maybe even just "Queen's English"

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:15 (six years ago) Permalink

What hath Girl Talk wrought.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 01:19 (six years ago) Permalink

Holy shit that was so much fun.

the mandy moorhols (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 29 August 2012 06:22 (six years ago) Permalink

one month passes...

So we found tickets for the show tonight on eBay for $35 each. Wisely skipping the opening DJ.

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 October 2012 04:03 (six years ago) Permalink

Two hours of Vigilant Citizen pop-celebrity Illuminati/Osiris shlock set to dubstep. Some parts legitimately great, but weird apocalyptic vibe was more off-putting WTF than ridiculously engaging. Suspect Roger Waters would like this show a lot.

More than once, gf and I turned to each other and said "is she really drunk?"

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 12 October 2012 19:05 (six years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

So apparently her entire next album was leaked months ahead of time?

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a617162/madonnas-new-album-leaks-in-full-months-before-it-is-announced.html#~oYIxu0W7UvC4R2

Greer, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 14:57 (three years ago) Permalink

well demos she was working on this summer

supposedly it got leaked because brazilian fans were getting mad she was spending too long on the album.

prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 15:04 (three years ago) Permalink

oh brazil

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:34 (three years ago) Permalink

I listened to this album a few months ago for the first time since fall '12. It holds up better than I thought (the final stretch ain't bad) but no way is it other than third tier Madonna.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:38 (three years ago) Permalink

"bitch i'm madonna" may be her worst ever anything

lex pretend, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:43 (three years ago) Permalink

well it is a sophie/diplo production

prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:47 (three years ago) Permalink

though maybe madonna causing pc music to jump the shark could prove her greatest contribution to music in a decade

prolego, Wednesday, 17 December 2014 17:57 (three years ago) Permalink

I think I like MDMA nearly as much as Confessions, which means it's my 2nd favorite Madonna album since 1995.

Eric H., Wednesday, 17 December 2014 18:18 (three years ago) Permalink

so she's put the album up for pre-order and chucked out those songs that leaked as early downloads. 13 other tracks will come in march.

while it's probably a smart move, i don't exactly like the precedent of brazilian hacker stans being able to force the hands of their favourite artists (although considering north korean hackers seemingly managed to stop the interview's release this might prove the future).

prolego, Saturday, 20 December 2014 12:26 (three years ago) Permalink

unholy brazilian madonna fan/kim jung-un alliance will destroy western civilization

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 20 December 2014 13:39 (three years ago) Permalink

The wikipedia article says that there has been a "slurry of unexpected album content leaks". Giggle.

oh, boy, .GIF! That's where I'm a Viking! (edwardo), Saturday, 20 December 2014 13:51 (three years ago) Permalink

"devil pray" is the best thing here. it wouldn't sound too out of place on american life (save for the fact she's left kabbalistic musings behind for a hallucinatory drug trip through catholic hell). that folktronica sound is really such a comfortable fit for her in many ways, and in hindsight kind of makes me think she axed mirwais too soon.

"ghosttown" is fairly standard tedder-esque balladry (he's got a writing credit on "devil pray" but not this which feels like a mistake) but she sounds so much better vocally on it that she has in years and it makes such a difference. someone in her team needs to tell her to stay in her lower register because when she veers out of it she ends up sabatoging even potentially great material. but we've discussed this here ad nauseum.

"bitch i'm madonna" remains terrible (what the hell is that drop?!) and sophie needs to stop existing already. poor nicki getting roped in when she's already had a bad enough week.

i don't even know what the fuck "illuminati" is, but i've long expected madonna to become music's norma desmond so in a way it makes more sense than anything else here. i wish she's stop with this rebel heart nonsense and just call an album i am big, it's the charts that got small already.

prolego, Saturday, 20 December 2014 15:15 (three years ago) Permalink

Just listened to the iTunes samples. They are terrible, every one of them. I didn't like MDNA or Hard Candy either. When is it time for me to finally give up?

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 20 December 2014 16:16 (three years ago) Permalink

Oh man "Living For Love" is some awesome throwback piano-house Masters at Work shit

fgti jaq, it's chinavision! (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 21 December 2014 04:45 (three years ago) Permalink

that was my impression, just the vocal melody uh needs work

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 21 December 2014 06:25 (three years ago) Permalink

BITCH *clap* I'M *clap* MADONNA *clap*

j. winters (josh), Sunday, 21 December 2014 07:42 (three years ago) Permalink

This btw: Madonna - Rebel Heart (2015)

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 21 December 2014 08:16 (three years ago) Permalink

two years pass...

"In advance of the US launch of MDNA SKIN on September 26th, Madonna partnered with The Fat Jewish (Josh Ostrovsky) for a playful, tongue-in-cheek video collaboration featuring MDNA SKIN."

:(

maura, Friday, 22 September 2017 16:31 (one year ago) Permalink

oh madge no

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 16:33 (one year ago) Permalink

last week I went to a clubnight which was playing nothing but Madonna for five hours. It was excellent, obviously (although a DJ who took the reins at the last hour had clearly been left out the planning stage as he played songs that had already been played) but I was really surprised at how well-received the stuff from this album went down.

boxedjoy, Friday, 22 September 2017 18:05 (one year ago) Permalink

... "The Fat Jewish"?

never have I been so glad to be out of the loop

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:10 (one year ago) Permalink

although maybe all this means is that this dude is going to be an omnipresent comedic force by 2020 who then morphs into an ignorable character actor

Marcus Hiles Remains Steadfast About Planting Trees.jpg (DJP), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:11 (one year ago) Permalink

hack joke stealer on twitter is all you need to know

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:42 (one year ago) Permalink

also ppl stopped talking abt him a few years ago so madge's ppl are def on the cutting edge here

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:44 (one year ago) Permalink

I mean he was just in the Charli XCX "Boys" video, he didn't 100% disappear

sick, fucking funny, and well tasty (katherine), Friday, 22 September 2017 18:50 (one year ago) Permalink

Man, it's been nothing but crap since (and including) American Life ...

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Saturday, 23 September 2017 09:21 (one year ago) Permalink

'hung up' was good

maura, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:41 (one year ago) Permalink

and this song from mdna was a highlight even if it could stand to have a minute lopped off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG40yJQ2_aQ

maura, Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:43 (one year ago) Permalink

'Hung Up' was alright, but it was undoubtedly helped a lot by that ABBA sample.

more Allegro-like (Turrican), Sunday, 24 September 2017 16:48 (one year ago) Permalink

Rebel Heart was better than this but it doesn't matter.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 24 September 2017 17:26 (one year ago) Permalink


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