Which producers/musicians should Madonna work with

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my recommendations

the neptunes
missy elliot (not in a gap ad)
the matrix
trevor horn
prince paul
beck (cf pink)
Byron Gallimore, Dann Huff (faith hill)

― anthony easton (anthony), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 10:51 (twenty years ago) link

Rudy Van Gelder

― Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 10:53 (twenty years ago) link

Jewels & Stone

― Paul R (paul R), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:27 (twenty years ago) link

alan braxe

― gareth (gareth), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:31 (twenty years ago) link

scott walker

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:32 (twenty years ago) link

lacquer, jacques lu cont, ja rule

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:36 (twenty years ago) link

golden boy

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:41 (twenty years ago) link

jeff mills

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:43 (twenty years ago) link

Steve Albini
Tony Conrad
Melt Banana
Happy Flowers
Russell Haswell
Alec Empire
Calvin Johnson

I am not fucking kidding! Can you imagine? (for once Albini looks like the safe, mainstream option) :-)

― neil, Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

The Monsoon Bassoon

― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:53 (twenty years ago) link

In fact, we could meld Madonna with Stereolab and rejuvenate two slightly-floundering ARTISTES in one fell swoop.

― Alex in Rotherham (Alex in Doncaster), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

Steve Albini
Martin "Headmaster" Birch
Conny Plank (oops, he'd dead)
Bob Ezrin
The Dust Brothers
Lee "Scratch" Perry

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:02 (twenty years ago) link

Alex Newport.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:03 (twenty years ago) link

jacques lu cont <--ronan there's a thin white duke remix of hollywood

― minna (minna), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:06 (twenty years ago) link

chas and dave - she's a real cockernee these days int she?

― j0e (j0e), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:07 (twenty years ago) link

jimmy jam and terry lewis

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

teddy riley. or, like, cameo.

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:10 (twenty years ago) link

Second vote for Alec Empire! Then we'd finally get rid of her! (Or maybe not. More likely she'd just make digital hardcore the next big trend...)

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:14 (twenty years ago) link

Oh I know Minna! And it's proof enough!

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

Assuming their thing with Britney goes through, the next logical step for DFA is to work with Madonna.

― dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

albini, for sure.

― gage o (gage o), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:28 (twenty years ago) link

Phil Spector.

― Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:37 (twenty years ago) link

Jellybean Benitez

― Larcole (Nicole), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:38 (twenty years ago) link

someone who isn't a big name for her to vampirically suck credibility from...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

really liked the jacques lu cont hollywood remix.
richard x. daniel bedingfield.

― lid, Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

Talvin Singh (his remix of "Nothing Really Matters" is the best thing she's ever had anything to do with)

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

Or, alternately, the Rza.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 15:59 (twenty years ago) link

Vladislav Delay

― manuel (manuel), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 16:33 (twenty years ago) link

FULL FORCE

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 16:35 (twenty years ago) link

Cex with Craig Wedren

― Ben Boyer, Wednesday, 6 August 2003 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

ooh ooh ooh I would PAY for her to work with Alec Empire.

Dizzee Rascal or Oxide & Neutrino might be good too, but I can actually visualise her jumping on the UK garage bandwagon and it's not a pretty sight.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 23:52 (twenty years ago) link

I was serious about Jellybean -- her going backward would be the most forward thinking thing she could do at this moment.

― Larcole (Nicole), Thursday, 7 August 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

No anmount of good production will stop her voice from sounding awful. Mirwais' production might actually seem much better if she junked *everything else* that has changed about her since the early nineties.

That said:

William Orbit (he improved post-"Ray of Light")
Richard X
Luomo
The Modernist
Shakedown
7 Aurelius
Richcraft Harrison
Whoever produced Annie's "The Greatest Hit" (Annie?)
Whoever produced Mis-Teeq's "Eye Candy" (Richie Rich?)
Lenky (in soft-focus keyboards mode)
Dave Kelly

Def. *not* The Neptunes or any UK Garage artist unless it was Sunship or Bump'n'Flex making a comeback.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 7 August 2003 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

LuCont is the obvious choice. He was keyboard player on the last world tour and as you said has done the "Hollywood" remix.

Thomas Bangalter anyone? I doubt he would but you never know.

Timbaland should do some reeeeally abstract shit for her too.

― Nick H, Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:06 (twenty years ago) link

Whoever produced Annie's "The Greatest Hit" (Annie?)

annie's boyfriend, norwegian dude called erot

― minna (minna), Thursday, 7 August 2003 15:29 (twenty years ago) link

FULL FORCE

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

Thing is, Madonna's choice of producer is inextricably tied up to the image she chooses to project. I doubt that Timbaland or the Neptunes would work because in working with them she'd be aligning herself with the R&B world and quite frankly the idea of Madonna trying to bling-bling it up as a Tweet/Lumidee/Missy is too hideous to contemplate. The Mirwais thing was initially a move towards being space-age dance diva - at once reclaiming her disco roots and looking to the future - and it did work for a bit, but it doesn't work now because it's so familiar. To decide on a producer for Madge you have to decide what image she needs to project to be relevant again, and to be honest it's quite hard to think of one.

Which is why I reiterate: Alec Empire. Destroy everything Madonna currently is and rebuild her out of a torrent of digital hardcore.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 7 August 2003 16:15 (twenty years ago) link

i suspect she's beyond saving to be honest

― robin (robin), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:26 (twenty years ago) link

Mylene Farmer and Laurent Boutonnat

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:29 (twenty years ago) link

Mylene Farmer and Laurent Boutonnat

ew, Madonna as post-Alizée Lolita chick! Alizée's plenty good enough herself, and after all Madonna is a woman heading towards 50 at speed.

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 7 August 2003 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

Irv Gotti.

― Nick H, Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link

i wish alec empire and bjork would've done more than just a remix. bjork's the only woman i could imagine having better DHR chemistry with Alec than Hanin(even though hanin will always be my true love).

― Felcher (Felcher), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:08 (twenty years ago) link

Fennesz
Trevor Jackson
Edan
M. Mayer
Moodymann
Ellen Allien
B. Morgenstern
Luciano
Arthur Baker

― david day (winslow), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

oh...

and JAY DEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

― david day (winslow), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:33 (twenty years ago) link

Bangalter or Phil Elvrum of the Microphones.

― NA (Nick A.), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:56 (twenty years ago) link

bangalter has too big an ego to work with anyone except beloved gee-man

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 7 August 2003 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

dem 2

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 21:02 (twenty years ago) link

or steve gurley

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 7 August 2003 21:02 (twenty years ago) link

Actually YES! Jess is correct.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 7 August 2003 23:13 (twenty years ago) link

she should collaborate with that band Berlin and do duos with the man or trios with both of them -- that would rejuvenate both acts and re-balance some credit where it is due -- or devo, who know how to use synths and uniforms -- give her an injection of punk

i really think a Hitchcock like director/ ideas person, to throw her maybe, provoke her & help with those black and white videos -- eno might be quite good for her -- let's face it, he's been very good for some people (not so much lately though)

chris carter (of t~g and chris&cosey) might be good on the synth and sleaze fronts, and like hitch, might provoke her

or do an album with Ciccone Youth -- kim gordon could be the voice of madonna's goody-goody conscience

or with john zorn, in S&M tinged role playing improv "game", hopefully out-screaming Yakamatsa Eye -- joni mitchell might be able to help with S&M style issues, correct bass synth programming and for the benefit of the rest of us get madonna doing what joni thinks madonna should be doing

malcolm mclaren on album art, fashion issues -- madonna should let us see her navel again for instance, and genesis p-orridge might be able to help with that and other body parts

drew barrymore for "producer", and patti smith, louis gossett jnr or colin powell as personal trainer on "attitude" developement

― george gosset (gegoss), Friday, 8 August 2003 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

My vote goes to Andrew Broder - for to take the piss out of Hollywood, or any of her other recent flubbers.
The more probable choice though is Casey Spooner. Though the Fischerspooner remix of Kylie's Come Into my World was pretty saucy, so....

― Eric our fearless leader (Eric our fearless leader), Friday, 8 August 2003 04:06 (twenty years ago) link

Neptunes, New Pornographers and I wish Suba were still alive.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 8 August 2003 07:53 (twenty years ago) link

Re: the Madonna/digital hardcore connection, there's already a number of gabber/hardcore tracks/remixes with madonna acappellas:

bass d & king matthew - like a dream
dj promo - mad-donna
eraserhead - life is a mystery
dj dion - frozen

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 8 August 2003 07:56 (twenty years ago) link

Can I re-iterate how much the world does *not* need to hear Madonna and The Neptunes work together???

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 8 August 2003 09:03 (twenty years ago) link

i can hear the pharellsetto "madaaaaaaaaaahna" now.

― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 8 August 2003 09:06 (twenty years ago) link

The secret of The Neptunes is that they surprise most when working with more predictable choices - Jay-Z, Noreaga, Snoop etc. If they worked with Madonna they'd probably do a really standard Neptunes production, such that you know it before you hear it. And I think her voice would sound even worse than usual in such a context.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 8 August 2003 10:54 (twenty years ago) link

Rhythm & Sound

― CNWB, Friday, 8 August 2003 11:16 (twenty years ago) link

Bob Rock

― Siegbran (eofor), Friday, 8 August 2003 11:18 (twenty years ago) link

re:

"Whoever produced Annie's "The Greatest Hit" (Annie?)

annie's boyfriend, norwegian dude called erot "

unfortunatlely erot (Tore A. Kroknes) died from a heart defect not long after "the greatest hit" came out, in April 2001

― jed-e-3, Friday, 8 August 2003 15:23 (twenty years ago) link

wdo we really want madonna to work at all any more?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 8 August 2003 15:27 (twenty years ago) link

i know i dont, dave!

― jed-e-3, Friday, 8 August 2003 15:33 (twenty years ago) link

james plotkin
eyvind kang
ken ishii / denki groove
jeff lynne

― bob snoom, Friday, 8 August 2003 16:18 (twenty years ago) link

Re Full Force...is the bass player on Lisa Lisa's "Lost In Emotion" part of the Cult Jam or part of Full Force? Which is the name of the band? That's some of the hottest bass playing I've heard, especially on the outro.

― Kris (aqueduct), Friday, 8 August 2003 16:37 (twenty years ago) link

Since we're all pretty much just naming producers at random now anyway:

Don Fleming
Wharton Tiers
Moby
Butch Vig
MJ Cole
MF Doom
Goldie
Marley Marl
Andy Wallace
Ric Ocasek (actually, that one might really work)
J. Robbins
El-P
Bomb the Bass
that guy who did all those Pearl Jam albums
Michael Beinhorn
Quincy Jones

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Friday, 8 August 2003 16:53 (twenty years ago) link

The band is Lisa Lisa and Cult Jam and they were produced by Full Force (which is why "All Cried Out" has the "with Full Force" tagged onto the artist name).

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

I'm listening to American Life now (I'm certain I'm the only person on the board now who can claim this), and still think the production is terrific. It is also a pretty unique sound, on both the dancey numbers and the acoustic w/electronic stuff ones.

I know a lot of people hate her new lyrics, but compare with say when David Bowie tried to come on like a normal guy and revealed himself to be totally boring, Madonna at least seems interesting, sincere, and (still) an egomaniac (which was always one of the most compelling things about her.)

― Sean (Sean), Friday, 8 August 2003 20:57 (twenty years ago) link

anyone know for sure which song jacques lu cont produced? or does anyone with the album care to check which one?

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 9 August 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

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