rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread

get in here, goons.

Best rap song of 2009 gets the best rap video of 2010:

http://videos.onsmash.com/v/Qbx5NI9kUAyxh1AK

fuck euroswag imo

ive been enjoying this

http://artwork.datpiff.com/mb1a90b6/The_Pack_The_Pack_Is_Back-front-large.jpg

surf, you got a link to that? searching 'the pack' on the internet is pointless.

fu 2 this thread 4 2010 fu ❤

http://www.google.com/search?q=the+pack+is+back+the+mixtape&rls=com.microsoft:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

this Pack mixtape is actually pretty dope, cheers.

only just got around to hearing this, pretty solid

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/85/Trifebetterlatethannever.jpg

only just got around to hearing this, pretty solid

better late than never, amirite?

can't believe I actually just wrote that. someone sb me.

There are some genuinely odd images in that Jay-Z video clip.

damn, didn't even realize trife came out with an album. definitely interested in hearing that

Part of the Jay-Z clip looks like a Rorschach inkblot!

Best rap song of 2009

o_0

best suggest banned of 09 gets first sb of 10 tbh

haha

ha

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7oGx2dImE8

this is the album cover in my itunes for that pack mixtape

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B002GRX3PY.jpg

lol

isn't k3ller the dude who started listening to rap in like 07?

that song is wack as fuck dude (cool video tho)

i dig "onto the next one" jay-z aside

ban whiney for saying it's the best rap song of 09 tho

tbh, "Watcha Wanna Do" might be best, but u guys are all stuck on stupid

even the beat is ass imo

what the fuck is wrong with you

i dunno, Whiney G. Weingarten. what the fuck is wrong with you?

i'm ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE ON TO THE NEXT ONE

we're gonna have to look at the first couple of posts on this thread all year, huh

great start for zingtoners in '010

An "A Milli" rip with a really annoying vocal sample, what a banger!

"On To The Next One" vs "Drop" for Critical Banger '09.

uh yeah, i think swizzy was doing the steve reich perpetual vocal loop ish well before a milli, but ok whatever

ok good point, but that doesn't change my opinion of that song

what's up with this whole like dark, haunted spaceship thing going on in pop music right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCjwmXg5poY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPABJMLnN-U

The beat is dope, not as good as I can transform ya tho. Swizz has been on fire for a while now.

and since you mentioned trasnform ya, i would be amiss not to point out the other classic swizzy 09 beat of lil jon's "i do"

i keep meaning to do a 06-09 swizz comp but lol life

What part of d.a.n.c.e. is sampled tho

"under the uh-under the spot- under the ...." etc etc etc

yea, i actually went through all of d.a.n.c.e. to figure out what the sample was from and couldn't hear it hahaha

talk about a song that doesn't hold up, eesh

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VQqzZ64DSZA/Sz4pvCTkevI/AAAAAAAAAf8/ARax3hr_BCg/s1600/trunkmuzik_front.jpg

what do we think of this? it's pretty damn good

yelawolf def has been bumped near to the top of my rapper wkiw list

never heard of him tbh. wheres he from?

bama

even bun sounds fresh on this shit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Dj4A0GD7M

lots of great flows on this tape

in the gutter like an empty pbr bottle is

twin pipes lookin like dragon's breath

I'd only read about this guy but HOLY SHIT

ha you can tell that he just straight made bun step his game up

walk with a limp and i talk with a lingo
party with a buncha bad girls in a pinto

i got a pocket full of stones cuz i fell off my dirt bike in cargo pants
i rock a microphone literally, litter the track lyrically with bottles, cans
pop a band, put a stack on it i'll water this plant like aqua man
make a rapper run back to the studio, retrace his steps like he dropped a gram

i'm alabama's own, buddy
flinstone caprice, 1987 cutty
backyard, moonshine still
methadone laboratory real
can i keep it crystal clear
jail two type of people
illiterate pigs who wanna see you killed type of evil
confederate flags i see ya
on the truck with the windows down
why is he playin beanie sigel
cuz his daddy was a dopeman
lynrd skynrd didn't talk about movin keys of coke, man
aint no such thing as a free bird
billy's got that street work and he's packin a nasty heater
trailer home trap spot
chevys on the cinder blocks
still doin donuts
in the gravel parking lots
gold ropes, cousin's in the group home
and he knows ever word to every yelawolf song

shine blockas video is cool

i like these hi def video videos

i wish every big boi leak didn't feel wholly pointless - shine blockas is straight fire beautiful - totally effervescent

big boi's wal-mart freestyle at the beginning is dope too

tomorrow i might go on an excursion to buy the new gucci issue of xxl

supposedly bb's album comes out in february. i'll believe it when i see it

I just made a top 50 albums of 2009 list. Here is the rap:

1. DJ Quik & Kurupt - Blaqkout
6. Big K.R.I.T. - The Last King [Mixtape]
14. Lil Wayne - No Ceilings
19. UGK - UGK 4 Life
20. Gucci Mane - The State vs. Radric Davis
21. Blaq Poet - The Blaqprint
22. DJ Paul - Scale-a-Ton
23. Freeway & Jake One - The Beat Made Me Do It [Mixtape]
28. Beanie Sigel - The Broad Street Bully
29. Pill - 4180: The Prescription [Mixtape]
30. Curren$y & Wiz Khalifa - How Fly [Mixtape]
31. New Boyz - Skinny Jeans & a Mic
32. Two Fingers - s/t (Wasn't sure whether this should count, decided it contains too me rapping to not)
35. Ghostface Killah - Wizard of Poetry
38. Marco Polo & Torae - Double Barrel
41. Young Dro - R.I.P. [Mixtape]
42. Pill - 4075: The Refill [Mixtape]
43. Rick Ross - Deeper Than Rap
45. Dyme Def - Panic [EP]
46. Curren$y - This Ain't No Mixtape
48. Willie Isz - Georgiavania
50. JHawk - Jerkin' With JHawk, Vol. 1 [Mixtape]

oops, cut out Wiley at #13

daps

good idea, I'll do the same w/ mine:

2. DJ Quik & Kurupt - BlaQKout
8. Lil Boosie - Superbad: The Return of Boosie Bad Azz
9. 8Ball - Memphis All-Stars: Cars, Clubs & Strip Clubs
10. Gucci Mane - The Movie 3-D: The Burrprint
13. DJ Paul - Scale-A-Ton
15. Freeway - Month Of Mania: The Mixtape
18. UGK - UGK 4 Life
20. Playboy Tre - Liquor Store Mascot
22. Gucci Mane - The State Vs. Radric Davis
23. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx… Pt. II
27. The Alchemist - Chemical Warfare
30. Young Jeezy - Trappin’ Ain’t Dead
37. Freeway - The Calm Before The Storm
41. Rhymefest - The Manual
44. Gucci Mane - The Cold War: Guccimerica
47. Fabolous - Loso’s Way
48. Lil Boosie - Thug Passion

also liked the Dro and Freeway and Wayne on rev's list but couldn't find room for them on mine.

the 'shine blockas' video makes such awkward ends out of its lack of gucci. the slideshow during his verse is ridiculous.

:(

"I just want to hear the music, that's all."

oops

copy/paste fail

http://www.comcast.net/articles/music/20100102/US.Producer.Murder.Charge/

yeah :-(

what is the point of shooting someone? idk. so stupid.

i had I COMMAND YOU NIGGAS TO GET MONEY stuck in my head all day

(i did not get money fwiw)

omg that yelawolf tape is good. i think burnone is by default my new favourite dj, not only by virtue of putting out mixtape i like but by having the least intrusive and coolest sounding dj call. it sounds like one of those dilla vocal samples.

i still don't have the slightest idea who Big K.R.I.T. is and it almost seems like some elaborate prank that a bunch of critics are repping for a rapper with that name out of nowhere. i read deej's long post about him but it was 90% about other rappers and didn't really tell me anything about the guy.

he's a dude from mississippi who raps his ass off

and does his own beats with lots of weird layered samples, too

this ballers eve video interview from yelawolf is very cool. seconding the wkiw

http://www.vimeo.com/8256627

i like burn one and love his blog obv, but i feel like his mixtapes (which are fantastic) are a godsend for a specific crowd of bloggers/web "critics" who's real touchstones for listening to music are the ALBUM and who really come from an indie background. they're safe. granted the music is great and he's getting incredible stuff out of the rappers he's collaborating with and putting a spotlight n some really cool guys but mixtapes come out every fucking day, just because this guy's have fewer drops and resemble traditional albums and have NICE ALBUM COVERS (v. important to this imo) that make them look more like albums I think he's getting attention from a whole bunch of people online who need him to hold their hand as they discover "country rap tunes" (even if it's through this whole new generation of post ugk/8ball&mjg rappers who are running with that and obv never were cosigned by pimp c)...

no shots or anything.

i think it's fucking cool that someone is bringing a level of taste and craft to a format that exists only in pixels.

just because this guy's have fewer drops and resemble traditional albums and have NICE ALBUM COVERS

why the fuck is this a bad thing? i wish more mixtapes were like this

ha, ok didn't see your second post

two things that have nothing to do with the music and make it more palatable for people not used to the package it comes in

Oh noes, uncool people could be listening

tell me more about this new concept of having an aesthetic to your art

yeah talking about stuff is stupid

at this point there might be almost as many people doing 'street albums' w/ slick art and original songs as there are guys doing quick and dirty freestyle tapes with mixtapedia-worthy covers, so if someone's getting hype doing that they're probably doing something more than just that.

he's a dude from mississippi who raps his ass off

― condaleeza spice (The Reverend), Sunday, January 3, 2010 11:02 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

and does his own beats with lots of weird layered samples, too

― condaleeza spice (The Reverend), Sunday, January 3, 2010 11:07 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

I know you were just giving a straighforward answer to a simple question, but this kind of gets to where I was going. I miss having a 'way in' to new rappers w/ a lot of these new online/mixtape cats, whether it was just a single or signature song, or a backstory or an affiliation . those things are sometimes very surface-level or have nothing to do with the quality of their music, but they were still concrete things to latch onto. now it's like, sure everything's free, it only costs you the time to download and listen to it, but why should i bother? sorry, i'm ranting.

xp to SD

good point, and i def think he's doing a lot of things 'right' but the level of slickness is higher here then just being another round of 'street albums'

also, there's no fucking way there are almost as many slick street albums than dirty freestyle datpiff drops when a guy like Allstar can drop about 5-6 mixtape sin 09 and none of htem make a blip until the one with burn one. just one example.

well not as many releases, i said as many people, obviously the dudes doing more traditional quickie mixtapes are gonna turn out product more frequently

i would like to honestly know the relationships of a dj that makes these more crafted web albums vs one who doesn't and if producers like mick vegas or whoever are keeping their best productions for the better crafted mixes for someone like burn one rather than giving them out for rappers' quickie mixtapes. because if that's so then there could be a good argument to be made that these are in fact more valuable as artistic statements or whatever

maybe i'm naive or just disinclined to give the DJs that much credit but i always assume the relationships are primarily between artist and producer as far as picking beats and releasing songs, and that the artist just decides whether to do a quickie mixtape or a more crafted album-ish one based on their own career plan.

this is kind of what we were talkin about in the simon reynolds thread.

there's no easy way to get into new rappers, and i don't necessarily see it as a bad thing if rockist dudes start finding out abt ppl because they start putting more energy/time into making mixtapes that sound and feel like albums. One coherant statement is way more impressive to me than 6 mixtapes

I mean, I def would rather have rock crits repping dudes who put in the most effort to an album rather than this blogger/diplo/Fadermag Harry-Smith-of-the-streets shit where ppl act like christopher columbus when they "discover" regional rap trends and bring them to the attention of whiteys

to me the Cold War series was kind of an unintentional statement on the fallacy of DJs mattering at all anymore in the ziptape era -- sure Gucci worked with 3 different DJs to show them each love and give them material to push, but virtually every person that heard 1 of those tapes heard all 3, and usually got them all from the same place/site...it's not like DJ Scream had an audience that got the DJ Scream tape and the DJ Holiday audience got the DJ Holiday tape.

xpost

lol @ whiney

i get it but im saying now this dj is acting as the discoverer, packaging it nicely in a way that gets the attention of people who normally would discover a Big KRIT for instance on fader or through a gorilla vs dilpo or whatever the fuck

you've got a point, Whiney, but at some point it's like..OK, if someone like Big K.R.I.T. shows up on my radar, as a guy compared to T.I., wearing sunglasses on the cover of a mixtape called The Last King with song titles like "The South" and "Get Money," and a couple people say he can rap his ass off, the only reason I'm giving him more than 5 seconds of consideration is that it's rev or deej saying that and not some random guy on the internet whose taste I don't know. xpost

the "way in" point is somewhat moot as someone outside the US - if i want a "way in" to a new rapper which just emerges from the pop culture ether i'd probably be stuck with flo rida and wale. i was really surprised at how few of the major label albums in that poll the other day i was even aware existed. but while i'll give ilx cru recommendations more time than other random dudes - though stellar guest verses on bigger artists' tracks are often a good way in - i've found that if the artist is REALLY worth following i'll be able to find my own way in fairly naturally after hearing a few tracks.

i'm going to be a harry-smith-of-the-internet right now and post this very random video of a guy named iceberg tony from central florida. i've watched it like 10 times, it's oddly compelling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSl1TMw0kPo

the "way in" point is somewhat moot as someone outside the US - if i want a "way in" to a new rapper which just emerges from the pop culture ether i'd probably be stuck with flo rida and wale. i was really surprised at how few of the major label albums in that poll the other day i was even aware existed. but while i'll give ilx cru recommendations more time than other random dudes - though stellar guest verses on bigger artists' tracks are often a good way in - i've found that if the artist is REALLY worth following i'll be able to find my own way in fairly naturally after hearing a few tracks.

― lex pretend, Sunday, January 3, 2010 1:10 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

fair point, but i was careful to say "single or signature song" and not "hit single" because so few worthwhile rappers become known through hits these days...guest verses are a good example, though, part of the affiliation thing i was talking about. but even, like, a personality trait or a weird voice or sense of humor, to me those are the kinds of things that get me interested in a rapper more than just "he's a guy in the T.I. mold and he's good" etc.

even someone who does have a signature song like Pill -- i'll be damned if i can tell what makes "Trap Goin Ham" so special and it seems like the majority of its buzz came from the video rather than the song

xpost i think we call those things "memes"

some dude, i have the rapper for you, his name is bo burnham

trap goin ham was special because it was the THIRD song in as many years to flip that fucking "New Style" sample and that's like white blogger catnip

but even, like, a personality trait or a weird voice or sense of humor, to me those are the kinds of things that get me interested in a rapper more than just "he's a guy in the T.I. mold and he's good" etc.

MINAJ!

no, i totally agree, which is why i haven't bothered to listen to the big krit mixtape yet even though deej and rev's repping made me download it, and why guest verses are so important. pill is a good example of someone whose particular skill set isn't one that differentiates him from the pack, but who is just so excellent at it that his ability itself becomes the way in - i feel pretty compelled to constantly return to both his mixtapes without having to make an effort to remember to.

whiney you don't like rappers that have interesting voices and funny things to say and unique personalities?

is there an exciting world of rapping robots programmed to generate rhyming couplets that i'm not aware of?

haha, no i do! that's why freddie gibbzzzzzzzz is boring. But I mean, if you're gonna saying that having those three things is all important round these parts, someone's gonna eventually say the G-word and Deejenstein is gonna rise from his slab and start throwin yall in the pond

idk if it can be broken down as easily as that - factor in beats and actual skills, and you can be lacking in certain areas but still hit the sweet spot.

whiney get off deejs dick

al shipley may like this, great doubletime and bun's best verse in a minute

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Dj4A0GD7M

I know you were just giving a straighforward answer to a simple question, but this kind of gets to where I was going. I miss having a 'way in' to new rappers w/ a lot of these new online/mixtape cats, whether it was just a single or signature song, or a backstory or an affiliation . those things are sometimes very surface-level or have nothing to do with the quality of their music, but they were still concrete things to latch onto. now it's like, sure everything's free, it only costs you the time to download and listen to it, but why should i bother? sorry, i'm ranting.

― some dude, Sunday, January 3, 2010 12:28 PM (1 hour ago)

your point is totally otm and fair but...sometimes this is why there are music writers

yeah, but as music writers, there's just no system in place to tread through this shit.

When I write about indie rock bands there's like 25 publicists who are gonna work all the "major releases" and 85% of what you read about indie rock AT ALL is gonna be those records.

With non-indie rap it's like a bunch of instant-delete emails from WORLDSTARHIPHOP DOT COM and 8-minute Vlad.tv videos of ppl freestylng, and Nah Right who posts like 300 things a day for google traffic and 7000 blogs all competing for attention.

reading nah right makes me incredibly sad; makes me think dude hasn't left the house in about 6 years.

With non-indie rap it's like a bunch of instant-delete emails from WORLDSTARHIPHOP DOT COM and 8-minute Vlad.tv videos of ppl freestylng, and Nah Right who posts like 300 things a day for google traffic and 7000 blogs all competing for attention.

― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, January 3, 2010 2:45 PM (4 minutes ago)

well yeah i wasnt talking about nah right...i'm talking about the couple dozen ppl whose taste you know and somewhat trust who also happen to write about music

xpost

yeah, all the blogs that rise to the top are usually built on inhuman posting cycles, which, to a print critic, really makes me mad at ppl who are like CHANGE WITH THE TIMES, MAAAAAN. Since my passion is writing about music not reprinting press releases and linking to mp3s 18 hours a day

well, NR is run by like 3 guys who mainly cut-and-paste stuff from their e-mail inbox without listening to or watching more than a tiny fraction of it, so i think they find the time to leave the house.

yeah i was gonna say

When I write about indie rock bands there's like 25 publicists who are gonna work all the "major releases" and 85% of what you read about indie rock AT ALL is gonna be those records.

With non-indie rap it's like a bunch of instant-delete emails from WORLDSTARHIPHOP DOT COM and 8-minute Vlad.tv videos of ppl freestylng, and Nah Right who posts like 300 things a day for google traffic and 7000 blogs all competing for attention.

so true and so frustrating, but no excuse - it's something one has to work around. annoying cuz when i pitch about rappers i have to make extra sure they're ~for real~ or at least not gonna turn out to be terrible, but...idk, i find it a lot better to just bypass the useless PR system completely, until and unless they happen upon an artist i already like. if i can't get access to the artist there are other means of covering them. there's no rule that says you have to go through any system here.

also, being a rap journalist is a piece of piss compared to pitching anything serious about r&b, ie not "what rihanna is wearing today". EASY to get editors to take rap seriously!

Yeah, I wouldn't say Big K.R.I.T. has a signature song. I was going to bring Pill up in contrast as someone who does have a signature song (and an affiliation, via Killer Mike or whatever he's bowlderized his name to), but since you already did, I think that was a conscious, and smart, career move on Pill's part that K.R.I.T. hasn't taken, because it does give listeners an in before they spring for a whole tape.

I think calling Krit just some rapper influenced by T.I. shortsells him. He definitely is post-Tip, but no moreso than any other lyrical Southern street rapper of the past five years. I think Deej was more talking about T.I. as a archetype for rappers in his wake than doing that, though. I also hear a lot of Pimp C and, in his more reflective moments, Cee-Lo in Big K.R.I.T., but that's also reductive. He's definitely his own rapper, and very versatile at that, comfortable rapping fast, slow, aggressively, laid-back, nimbly switching syncopations, and combining any of those elements. As a lyricist he's also versatile. He doesn't stray at all from standard rap subject matter, but he's plenty comfortable going anywhere within that realm, so he's not really rapping about the same things song after song. He's pretty topical for the most part, but at the same time has no problem dropping something offbeat like "I keep a bad yellowbone in a playaz circle/ Whoopi Goldberg cause she color purple/ Did I do that? Just call me Urkel/ Crawlin' green in a hardtop like turtle" in the middle of a sex rap. He also comes up with pretty catchy hooks. Deej called him "virtuosic", and while that might be a bit premature, I don't think it's too far off at all.

Going back to what you guys were saying about DJ Burn One, I feel that, but DJ Breakem Off does even better to make a coherent tape. Instead of taking Burn One's more hands off approach, his mixing actually improves the tape, rare thing. The first five tracks are played as a mixed suite, with hooks and beats overlapping onto one another, and Krit goes hard on each of those. He doesn't really give you a chance for your jaw to snap back into place until about 10 minutes into the tape. Past the opening suite, it's just really well sequenced. I listened to his previous mixtape with a different DJ, and sure good raps and good beats, but it didn't feel like more than the sum of its parts than this one.

His beats definitely place him in this Gulf Coast lineage, but are distinct because he isn't afraid to let the seams show. They're kind of ramshackle and unpolished, kinda like if BlockBeataz had just a tiny hint of early RZA (Krit seems to share RZA's love of ominous string loops).

This is my favorite track of his, and pretty representative. It has the aforementioned lines and features his dude Big Sant rapping leadoff, who is also awesome, but I can't quite place who he sounds like even though it seems like it should be obvious.

http://limelinx.com/files/3ff93c278eea00182d6c49e55834a214

I'm excited about Krit because I see him as having a lot of room to develop but is already coming from a pretty high spot to begin with. I'm not saying by any means that he's going to blow up (for one thing, he has to get better at marketing himself first, especially being that he's from the middle of nowhere), but I can see him as releasing good music for quite a while.

And yeah, his name is kinda funny.

As for "Trap Goin' Ham", I think your assumptions about people only liking it because of the video/sample (I know, the latter was Whiney, but him saying that I only like this song because I'm white(!?) pisses me off, even if that's not really what he was trying to say) are way off since I hated the video at first and it took me way forever to place the sample, but I was immediately bowled over by the song. I ended up playing it more than any other rap song of 2009, except "9xs Outta 10". The combination of slow, hard-hitting beat with frantic, spider-scurry synths gives it a great pacing, and Pill keeps up. The parts where he doubles his flow for the middle two bars of each verse play into that and are impressive in their own right. Besides that, the lyrics are hella novel. I mean "Trap goin' ham, we got pies flyin' out the spot" is the goddam hook! To say nothing of the verses, which are dope, too.

I still need to listen to the Yelawolf tape.

rev, if i'm taking generic swipes at rap bloggers, know that i don't ever mean my euroswag brethren

fair enough about "Trap" -- "9xs Outta 10" is like my least favorite song on BlaQKout, so obviously mileage does vary.

i still don't have the slightest idea who Big K.R.I.T. is and it almost seems like some elaborate prank that a bunch of critics are repping for a rapper with that name out of nowhere. i read deej's long post about him but it was 90% about other rappers and didn't really tell me anything about the guy.

― some dude, Sunday, January 3, 2010 9:05 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

dude, critics repping for a rapper out of nowhere? its just me. the only 'critics' repping for him as far as i can tell are dudes on here, who read my post. its not some critic phenomenon, its just a great rap tape. the first person i heard rep for the tape was young buck's twitter

also, f.u. whiney for saying jay z made the best rap song of 09. embarrassing

i can't win today hahaha

young buck's twitter = a person

to be fair it was a pretty retarded statement

well yeah i didn't say K.R.I.T. crit love was widespread, just that you + rev + keller = multiple writers being excited about him. you don't have to get your back up about every little thing and interpret it in whatever way you can feign the most righteous indignation about.

ok i guess "a bunch of critics" is a poor way to describe 3 guys but w/e

in reality "On to the next one" is prolly number 3 on my list after Quik/Kurupts's "Watcha Wanna Do" and Lay Me Down by Antipop Consortium if we wanna talk serious challops

sorry i ruined euroswag

"On To The Next One" is #2 on my Pazz & Jop singles ballot after this fire jam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=113kJKz2mMI

Yeah, I wouldn't say Big K.R.I.T. has a signature song. I was going to bring Pill up in contrast as someone who does have a signature song (and an affiliation, via Killer Mike or whatever he's bowlderized his name to), but since you already did, I think that was a conscious, and smart, career move on Pill's part that K.R.I.T. hasn't taken, because it does give listeners an in before they spring for a whole tape.

I think calling Krit just some rapper influenced by T.I. shortsells him. He definitely is post-Tip, but no moreso than any other lyrical Southern street rapper of the past five years. I think Deej was more talking about T.I. as a archetype for rappers in his wake than doing that, though. I also hear a lot of Pimp C and, in his more reflective moments, Cee-Lo in Big K.R.I.T., but that's also reductive. He's definitely his own rapper, and very versatile at that, comfortable rapping fast, slow, aggressively, laid-back, nimbly switching syncopations, and combining any of those elements. As a lyricist he's also versatile. He doesn't stray at all from standard rap subject matter, but he's plenty comfortable going anywhere within that realm, so he's not really rapping about the same things song after song. He's pretty topical for the most part, but at the same time has no problem dropping something offbeat like "I keep a bad yellowbone in a playaz circle/ Whoopi Goldberg cause she color purple/ Did I do that? Just call me Urkel/ Crawlin' green in a hardtop like turtle" in the middle of a sex rap. He also comes up with pretty catchy hooks. Deej called him "virtuosic", and while that might be a bit premature, I don't think it's too far off at all.

Going back to what you guys were saying about DJ Burn One, I feel that, but DJ Breakem Off does even better to make a coherent tape. Instead of taking Burn One's more hands off approach, his mixing actually improves the tape, rare thing. The first five tracks are played as a mixed suite, with hooks and beats overlapping onto one another, and Krit goes hard on each of those. He doesn't really give you a chance for your jaw to snap back into place until about 10 minutes into the tape. Past the opening suite, it's just really well sequenced. I listened to his previous mixtape with a different DJ, and sure good raps and good beats, but it didn't feel like more than the sum of its parts than this one.

His beats definitely place him in this Gulf Coast lineage, but are distinct because he isn't afraid to let the seams show. They're kind of ramshackle and unpolished, kinda like if BlockBeataz had just a tiny hint of early RZA (Krit seems to share RZA's love of ominous string loops).

This is my favorite track of his, and pretty representative. It has the aforementioned lines and features his dude Big Sant rapping leadoff, who is also awesome, but I can't quite place who he sounds like even though it seems like it should be obvious.

http://limelinx.com/files/3ff93c278eea00182d6c49e55834a214

I'm excited about Krit because I see him as having a lot of room to develop but is already coming from a pretty high spot to begin with. I'm not saying by any means that he's going to blow up (for one thing, he has to get better at marketing himself first, especially being that he's from the middle of nowhere), but I can see him as releasing good music for quite a while.

And yeah, his name is kinda funny.

― condaleeza spice (The Reverend), Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:38 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

this is a very good post, & very otm

i thought i wrote a fair amount of how what was so good about the big k.r.i.t. tape was pretty much how much promise i thought it showed ... hes definitely not fully developed as an artist yet, but he seems to hit a lot of different touchpoints I like, & his style feels a lot more flexible & diverse &, i dont know, interesting than gibbs & pill who usually strike me as pretty dry. I dont think any of these dudes have dropped masterpieces, but the conceit of my post was this: if we were to play a predictions game on rap artists likely to have great careers, K.R.I.T.'s tape sounded the most promising & i found it to be the most listenable, i was much more caught up in it than I was in the pill or gibbs stuff, he's just less dry & connects on an emotional level in a dungeon fam style ... hes messy in some ways on a lyrical level, with a filler line or something that doesnt quite ring like its supposed to -- less precise & technical than a guy like pill -- but also more genuine, & its inconsistent in the way "I'm Serious" was ... the T.I. comparison is on a broader level than just a lyrical influence, it was, like, he's a well-rounded rap artist w/ a number of different approaches.

the other thing is, yeah, this tape is hella listenable, simply because of how its sequences & mixed.

*sequenced

i'll wait for the lil wayne freestyle over "on to the next one"

and fuck that autotune cuz we OOOooooooon

i'm a sucker for big stupid nu-swizz but the appeal of that song has so far eluded me.

and you also hate "let me transform ya"

that's more for the hook and the wayne verse, though, the beat's generic swizz but more or less functional.

btw can i just say i'm already starting to get depressed about the prospect of clicking on the "rolling euroswag thread" for the next 360-something days. can we agree on something else and get a mod to change it? i liked "rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread".

otm

i actually totally agree w/ al's criticisms when it comes to a lot of critically acclaimed rappers out there .... k.r.i.t. just struck me as a weird example

otm

― Queef Latina (J0rdan S.), Sunday, January 3, 2010 11:08 PM (22 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes

autogoon as a compound word will never be touched

well yeah i didn't say K.R.I.T. crit love was widespread, just that you + rev + keller = multiple writers being excited about him. you don't have to get your back up about every little thing and interpret it in whatever way you can feign the most righteous indignation about.

― some dude, Sunday, January 3, 2010 10:57 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

but thats my thing

nuts butthurt & yelly

voila

anyway folks are still sleeping on nu-bay shit for some reason which strikes me as crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2YPYPKYT-8&feature=player_embedded

that beat B-)

here's my favorite k.r.i.t. song that didnt make the mixtape, 'boast or brag' rmx
http://www.zshare.net/audio/70761183e71f15d4/

anyway folks are still sleeping on nu-bay shit for some reason which strikes me as crazy

the mcs are just guys who stand there & mumble

pretty much

wow that was fast service re: subject line change! awesome

the only bad thing is that the bookmark still says "euroswag" but \(o_O)/

the mcs are just guys who stand there & mumble

pretty much

― Queef Latina (J0rdan S.), Sunday, January 3, 2010 11:14 PM (45 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MvMS_46EPE

the only bad thing is that the bookmark still says "euroswag" but \(o_O)/

― Queef Latina (J0rdan S.), Sunday, January 3, 2010 11:16 PM (34 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

remove, re-add?

doesn't matter

:(

this was my fav beat off 'tonite show' tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tb42L7mGZA

anyway the only reason i singled out Big K.R.I.T. when i started that whole rant (or talked about critics liking him as opposed to just saying dudes that post here) was the whole KRIT/crit thing making it seem somewhat surreal -- nothing against dude, still haven't heard him.

there is a zshare just a couple of posts up -- highly recommended

i am big crit

^^^

ok cool i'll check it out -- wasn't sure if a remix/outtake would be a good entry point

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KpuD7MDuQI

i dig this one too

aka the zinewriter

lool

i still don't get the thread title but at least it doesn't have "euro-" in it anymore

STUPID FRUITY CRAZY SWAG JUMPIN IN YO LADY

oj off 'make the trap say aye'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMK0eaEOJbA

i still don't get the thread title but at least it doesn't have "euro-" in it anymore

― ♖♕♖ (am0n), Monday, January 4, 2010 12:32 AM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

rolling (ongoing)
stupid (stupid)
fruity (bi-sexual)
crazy (angry)
swag (zshare links)
thread (on a message bord)

rolling (ongoing) ((he1geson))
stupid (stupid) ((surfboard))
fruity (bi-sexual) ((sarge))
crazy (angry) ((whiney))
swag (zshare links) ((deej))
thread (on a message bord) ((ned raggett))

lol fn rosetta stone right there

lmaoooo

sarge is not bi hes a mexican

no wait

sarge rolls full gay iirc

anyway, al: I posted a link upthread too

rev s feeling left out

can we add 'butthurt' 2 thread title

:D

ha i'm not even sure what u think i'm b*hurt about. i'm actually in v good spirits at this moment

awesome post rev, also thanks for naming big sant, i was wondering who did the first verse on fuck action, he fucking kills that.

lolllll @ icey and some dude's breakdown

oh right i forgot abt your link -- my browser seems to hate limelinx so i've been putting off clicking it

i don't know how sarge rolls and it's none of my biz obv, but dude is usually pretty would smash re: girls all over ilx so i was just going off that

ah, I use limelinx cause my browser hates zshare and they are the only two I've seen that let you preview before you download

don't worry about sarge, he's an honorary ringtone bisexual like l0u1s jagg3r anyway

i don't know how sarge rolls and it's none of my biz obv, but dude is usually pretty would smash re: girls all over ilx so i was just going off that

― EUKANUBA CRAZY DOG JUMPIN THRU YO HURDLE (some dude), Monday, January 4, 2010 12:54 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark

for the record i post on ws abt girls & talk about the attractiveness of girls and w/e because that's the culture here esp w/ the general 77 crowd but i never have nor do i think i will smash a girl

rev is really the only ringtone bi, hoos doesn't post in here anymore

oh and deej wears boat shoes

i did wear boat shoes but they now have a hole in them the size of an iceberg hit, so fuck all life basically

xp he got his game from the old school:

http://11after11jc.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/nwa_panic_zone_ice_cube_easy_e_dr_dre_arabian_prince_1987_01.jpg

rolling (ongoing) ((he1geson)) (((jay-z)))
stupid (stupid) ((surfboard)) (((nicki minaj)))
fruity (bi-sexual) ((sarge)) (((lil wayne)))
crazy (angry) ((whiney)) (((the madd rapper)))
swag (zshare links) ((deej)) (((???)))
thread (on a message bord) ((ned raggett)) (((keystylers)))

^^^^ needs work

hey dudes...been gone for a minute. what's good??

so is this travis barker lookin' mofo the goon crew coverboy for 2010 or what?

yes.

i think there's a little WS going on around here too re: yelawolf

lol

this is v beautiful imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0n6_itKbg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJn9xosyZGg

B- verse from Redman, super fucking retarded radio edits, dope beat tho

is there anyone besides me who's like older than 25 and totally annoyed by a rapper calling himself "Ready Roc"

yelawolf is a really nice singer

he basically just turns into andre 3000 for that song.

there are some real moments on the tape where he sounds almost exactly like andre - most notably on the track w/ rae when he says "and he packs a nasty heater" - his inflection when he clips off the last syllable sounds just like andre to me

also the hook in 'box chevy' is straight lil boosie

I slept on this. You probably did, too. It's really good.

http://imflashy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/young-chris-the-network.jpg

i would like to honestly know ... if producers like mick vegas or whoever are keeping their best productions for the better crafted mixes for someone like burn one

...

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Sunday, January 3, 2010

mick vegas = dj burn one

i actually learned shortly after that from this http://www.southernhospitality.co.uk/blog/?p=5801

i guess that explains something

Young Chris can definitely rap but I just can't handle his boring whisper/groan

wait, there's a rapper named G-Mane? that's unfortunate.

every time i'd heard a passing mention of the guy before i just thought "wow that's a lame abbrevvi for Gucci Mane"

hah he's actually really good. i haven't listened to that tape but he had a trak with g-side that i posted in autogoon that was a total fucking monster with a video.

i'm gonna go ahead and call him Hunstville's Trae the truth. even though he also reminds me almost as much of bun b

the G-Side stuff is something else i haven't found a 'way in' with yet, I didn't see the big deal about "Rollin'"

that's not g-side that's PRGz!!

prgz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g-side

g-side is a little zzzz

i just got done reading "fortress of solitude" and i kinda only want to listen to rap from the 70s right now....thank god i saved those old brooklyn rub radio supermix year-by-year joints

how bout Juicy J's new clik

with names ranging from Yoyo Munie and Lil Reno to Insane, Tracks, and Cash.

over whom Juicy J reigns as "The God Father" with his capo V-Slash who looks like a cross between the fat black kid from Old School and Meat Loaf in fight club

j is kinda goin off the deep end. dude's busting through doors in tiny little apartments wearing full black ski masked outfits waving rather large guns at a fucking camcorder

http://dirtyglovebastard.blogspot.com/2010/01/video-project-pat-ft-juicy-j-v-slash.html

Matt, <3 u but there's a lot better ways to listen to 70s rap than rub mixes tbh

that's not g-side that's PRGz!!

prgz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g-side

g-side is a little zzzz

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, January 5, 2010 11:11 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

well obviously part of my problem is that i haven't been able to keep all this huntsville stuff straight

Matt, <3 u but there's a lot better ways to listen to 70s rap than rub mixes tbh

― iirc's to you, mrs. robinson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, January 5, 2010 4:53 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha yeah especially because the first year is actually 1980...but it is the best way that's on my ipod right at this very moment....

but dude, are there any crucial comps out there?

i guess maybe there wasn't a whole lot of actual recording going on in the 70s, alot of the real shit was probably lost to time

no, first year is 79.

http://www.itstherub.com/radio.htm#history
http://philaflava.blogspot.com/2008/11/ego-trip-singles-1979.html

maybe whiney's got a dub of herc & sis' back to school party idk

i think rub mixes from like '98 are pointless & 'historical' more than 'fun' & 'good' but yeah the old ones are cool cuz its not like there are a bunch of tapes from back then that i know of

zvookster - thanks! i must've missed that one when i was downloading a bunch of those back when they came out! grabbing it now. i am ready to throw my hands in the air.

pill has signed to asylum/warner bros

can't wait for the gucci feature

in related news, it's pretty fun to search for this thread on ilm new answers by doing a ctrl + f for "fruity"

can't wait 4 'pillennium' 2 drop

do records still drop btw

into the trash behind best buys maybe

pill needs to keep up his collection of t shirts for obscure 60s/70s b-movie horror flicks

so tyt

not to get all nozzy here but i'd prefer if pill just formed a duo with gibbs

i'd prefer it if you just formed a duo with the suggest ban function

#2.5

but then he'd be in a duo with gibbs

i still think pill has commercial potential, if not immediately then somewhere down the line. gibbs is not interested in commercialism & probably has limited appeal anyway. i think it would be a bit of a waste for pill.

yeah otm

listening to freddie gibbs' music feels like my body has formed a duo with a sleeping Pill

i lold

ha

this yela is dope, ty goons.

one thing about the conscious decision to make more 'album' like shiz is... are interludes and skits finally starting to die off? i'm hearing a lot less of them these days.

One thing that I like about Yelawolf is he's such a musical rapper. He really reacts to changes in the beat.

yeah start the gibbs backlash without me. yiz are tripping. as musical a rapper as anybody both in the melodies (you know that's him singing on there right?) and the syncopation of his raps. And huge fun. the hyper falsetto behind those "smoke like i've never smoked before" lines on the midwestgangta bonus track is lol. sorry if u don't get it because those tapes gave me as much pleasure as any rap release last year.

deej: i like those two cuts from dj fresh, the tonite show: the album. are they obvious standouts or is it good throughout? i don't love the style so much that i'd take a chance on the strength.

the yelawolf is very good. there are six strong cuts on it: Box Chevy 3, Speak Her Sex (hate that pun, gonna just call it Speaker Sex. who is that singer? i like how she seems oblivious to yelawolf's verses), Pop the Trunk, Love Is Not Enough, Good to Go, and I Wish in very roughly that order. The last verse of Good to Go so good ("'Pocket Full of Stoooooones'" from falling off his bike or something?) but the hook is a bit obnoxious. He gets so complex in his verses on this tape and has all these melodic touches that he simplifies way too much sometimes on the hook ("In This Club" for instance is inexplicable). Compare it to the drama he injects into a car song (Box Chevy) and it feels like missed opportunities. Rittz kills it on that, who is that guy? I really like the device of ending the verses to Love Is Not Enough with a last line rapped (more like spoken) overlapping with the first sung (is there a name for that overlap verse chorus device?) "rollin' down 20 man" with what seems to me a slightly different enunciation every time that has a slightly different emotional emphasis. Trunk Muzik is a comp of his mixtape cuts, right? The youmustlearn piece referenced these tracks.

it's funny that there are "ways in" to all the new rappers that are currently hot on the internet. gibbs has that from where?, dropped by interscope, releasing music for free narrative. pill has the killer mike affiliation, connection with gibbs, "trap goin ham" vid. yelawolf is a white rapper from alabama who looks like a NY hipster trying to look like yelawolf and ppl have found that identity intriguing. G-Side are a bit of an exception since they came up on appreciation of the production. Still kind of an exotic locale as far as rap goes, tho, i suppose.

loool @ "yelawolf is a white rapper from alabama who looks like a NY hipster trying to look like yelawolf"

wait so the reason i should not be bored by a man named freddie gibbs is because 1) he was dropped by interscope and 2) he's musical and something about the "syncopation of his raps"

right.

devin the dude + z-ro are still rapping and have made enough extra music for me before i have to resort to a tribute rapper. theyre not even dead yet

sorry i don't give a fuck what brings you pleasure. do your thing listen to your old man from the midwest internet rap tape and see which of you two can name all the UGK albums fastest. there's not much to not get about these dudes. the shit that freddie gibbs represents is not what i look for in new rappers, he's revisionist in the same way someone who is not from new york would hyper-value the sean prices of the world and create their own little 90s golden age ressurected version of that sound, plus they'd be from like pittsburgh or some shit, in this hypothetical analogy that i'm creating. sounds fucking awful. shit's boring. pill's boring too but at least he's got a youthful, exciting kind of urgency that reminds me of rap and why i liked every single rapper ive ever liked, even though i don't really even like him very much.

only dude i'm gonna ride for out of the new hyped rappers of right now is Nipsey Hussle.

and what backlash? mp3 blog posts do not a critical consensus make.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zla7j82Yjdo

this right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As_2NMD0mRs

don't really understand the vituperation of your reply. is this one of these rap discussion on the internet things where everybody has to act like they hate each other yet keep coming back every day to the same people? i've seen that a lot in chatrooms and forums and it's pretty sadsack.

the narrative isn't a reason you should care, i'm just pointing out that it exists for each of these guys. not like say termanology releasing an indie single that the source picks up for unsigned hype that premo hears and they record "watch how it go down" which magazines check for in turn. that sort of buzz was still happening four years ago and maybe it isn't now.

"what backlash?" haven't seen any bad reviews, seen lots of good ones.

yeah i was suggesting that musical and "syncopation of his raps" (something funny about that phrase? you know, the rhythms and pitches of the words in relationship to the beat) are two reasons why i care. devin and z-ro are great, z-ro's record was probably top 3 of the year for me, but there's litle virtuoso "look what you did to me" style fast rapping on it, is that old hat and revisionist now? i don't hear anything retro in the gibbs productions so it's not a mausoleum for me. rae's was a mausoleum, bt something good done well is its own pleasure, i don't fiend for trends. anyway my note was a kind of sadness or frustration that rap fans like you weren't feeling something that i like so much so swallow your bile, eh?

i like sean price also.

deej posted that philty upthread, i don't like it much. yelawolf/bun b is also in here twice. it's not even a long thread.

@matt upthread: you're welcome!

people have a weird habit here of posting the same youtubes more than once in the same thread, as if threads aren't hard enough to load for some of us with them being posted once. there's a maxwell thread where someone posted "pretty wings" like 8 times for some reason.

the tonite show album is hit or miss. the tracks with bay dudes tend to be great, tracks with non-bay dudes tend to not be. fresh is great, though he releases so much shit that you will find yourself hitting the skip button from time to time

theres a fair amount of genericism w/in the bay shit as far as rappers go (w/ some notable exceptions -- mob figaz & a couple of the guys from live wire, particularly j-stalin) but that stuff is more about being this alternate universe where rap & pop still intersect, just in a really insular universe. the further the rappers move from home the worse their shit tends to sound. jacka & freeway was zzz

the exception is i like how mob figaz sound with cormega -- hes a perfect fit for some reason. i think because there's a big NY influence in a lot of their shit, especially jacka's

husalah, jacka & j stalin are the most exciting rappers in the scene, imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qx83P9V7is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wADXuyQVd3g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_FsMNvGbeI

this was probably j-stalin's biggest track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTzHvpeANZk
I like 'rock day' (the one surfboards posted) ok but i think theres gonna be better stuff on that album when it leaks

frankly considering how generic clipse & gibbs & pill can sound id be shocked if this stuff was too generic for ppl

the shit that freddie gibbs represents is not what i look for in new rappers

i don't disagree w/ surfboards re: gibbs — in fact i think he makes good points, some i've articulated before about gibbs/pill being the mirror images of rappers like the xxl freshmen that southern gangster rap fans like to mock - but surfboards did post about anticipating a triple c's album. so ymmv

re: shipley - i couldn't even imagine trying to load a goon/ringtone thread after like... march w/o bookmarking

man the gibbs hate is really bumming me out. i listened to miseducation so much...i think he's great.

re: yelawolf - a large reason why the album is great is because he can do so many styles well - his double time rapping is really good, but then he ends the tape with real melodic, soothing tracks where he sings just really well - i think everyone likes to throw out ugk as a reference point since they've kind of become an all encompassing touchstone for southern rap after their critical/commercial renaissance, but the singing on "love is not enough" really does remind me of that soulful singing that pimp c did

i just roll w/images off

ok, am i the only one who finds the name 'J. Stalin' to be a bit....uh...much? it would be like being a rapper named 'eazy hitler'

(even if it is his real name or whatever)

man the gibbs hate is really bumming me out. i listened to miseducation so much...i think he's great.

― jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, January 6, 2010 2:09 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark

i think really what the problem is that while a lot of people like the tape & respect him as an artist and all, the amount of words spent on him on the internet - which is where a lot of us 'reside' when it comes to rap, talking about discourse here - except of course for deej who works with asylum/warner bros a&rs @ wrigley field if i'm not mistaken - really exceeds what he presents. the problem is that people nowadays - i'm sure i'm guilty of this as well, so not throwing stones - can't just talk about rap w/o talking about 'can this person be popular? why isn't he popular? shouldn't he be more popular? shouldn't he be as popular as this person? this is why major labels are fucked up' - etc. and when you have someone like freddie gibbs who was dropped from a major for - imo - obvious reasons, it's like "shut up jeff weiss, he is not the best cross section of biggie & pac and he was dropped for a good reason if you're trying to make money. just chill out"

yeah i guess i don't really go to the blogs or other rap boards or anything....my whole view of what's going on in rap is pretty much this thread haha....

to me dude is just some good, skilled meat and potatoes gangster shit and a good rapper...i can't really get that concerned about the "state of rap" anymore, just trying to find little nuggets of stuff that suits my tastes

and you should! probably a lot less internal handwringing than the rest of us

minneapolis's hip hop/r&b station just switched formats : (

going to a top 40 format

goodbye TI, 'ello lady gaga

lol @ my interactions w/ asylum A&Rs
working there was like working in an asylum fwiw

surfboards is just biting our / noz's ahead-of-the-game sigh-ing about f gibbs. imo gibbs does stuff well, but it still feels removed & kinda pointless right now, an exercise in certain styles

duuude no way is that touching "Rock Day"! i caught myself genuinely daydreaming about/considering dealing drugs this morning after listening to that like five times in a row

the problem with this little axis isn't that their generic but between all of them there's like 7437484 street albums, mixtapes and retail CDs to wade through

re: double posting of nu-bay tracks...i believe we did this same thing but in reverse order in autogoon with Husalah "pray for you" but i didn't say anything cuz that track is fucking amazing

ep: 4:19 PM holy shit this is great http://www.cocaineblunts.com/blunts/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/gibbs.jpg
lol this lil indie korean girl i work with who exclusively fucks with like phoenix and animal collective is into freddie gibbs
4:20 PM me: haha not surprised
dude hes the first rap artist since NWA to grace the cover of the LA Weekly
thanks passion of the weiss
ep: i.c.
id rather fuck with nwa
me: yes
ep: yeah id rather fuck with yooooou
4:21 PM me: freddie gibbs has some joints. i like "murder on my mind"
midwest double time shit
hes 'promising' but thats about it
right now
ep: i just cant bring myself to give a shit when i could be listening to actual greats
4:22 PM me: yeah thats my basic take on it
noz did a big post about that too
ep: its like playing jamiroquai instead of stevie or something

rock day is cool but it doesnt scream 'lead single' to me or anything

'paint the town' def kicks the shit out of it

but really, is anyone being talked about on this thread right now up there with the "actual greats"?

comparing new, emergent artists to "actual greats" really is dumb though

were you talking about the Tonite Show with J Stalin mixtape or the "Tonite Show the Album"?

i listened to the Messy Marv tonite show a while ago but don't remember it.

xxxp to deej

i was talking about tonite show the album, dj fresh's solo record. hearing dude producing for kool g rap is interesting in a <del>comic book</del> rap nerd when-universes-collide way but its not actually great music

messy marv w/ dj fresh is pretty cool, but its way short

j stalin mixtape w fresh was called 'the real world 2' & real world 1 from a few years back is good too

but really, is anyone being talked about on this thread right now up there with the "actual greats"?

― hey trader joe's! i've got the new steely dan. (Jordan), Wednesday, January 6, 2010 4:38 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no but these bay dudes for example are doing something different & fresh that im not getting from classic rap

i got the prenup thing and gas nation that's it. gonna have to go in

not afraid to say that i love the D-Lo song from the Tonite Show album.

yeah its good

you should get jacka's street album from late 08 too, i like it more than his album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSIQEKK3H64

lolllll

Wait, isn't D-Lo's album called The Tonite Show, too? Is this some huge bay meme?

okay, i'm raising the point again: J. STALIN IS A FUCKING AWFUL NAME FOR A RAPPER.

that said, i am enjoying reading and listening to the stuff on this thread.

dj fresh does a series of tapes w/ different rappers called "the tonite show" -- with young gully, messy marv, san quinn (zzz), D-Lo, etc

he also did a solo record that features highlights of his own, which is the only one that was an officially released album.

they're all produced by him

hahaha yeah i agree that NWA is way better than freddie gibbs.

also NWA is way better than every single artist that will be mentioned on this thread all year.

man the gibbs hate is really bumming me out. i listened to miseducation so much...i think he's great.

― jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, January 6, 2010 2:09 PM (25 seconds ago) Bookmark

i think really what the problem is that while a lot of people like the tape & respect him as an artist and all, the amount of words spent on him on the internet - which is where a lot of us 'reside' when it comes to rap, talking about discourse here - except of course for deej who works with asylum/warner bros a&rs @ wrigley field if i'm not mistaken - really exceeds what he presents. the problem is that people nowadays - i'm sure i'm guilty of this as well, so not throwing stones - can't just talk about rap w/o talking about 'can this person be popular? why isn't he popular? shouldn't he be more popular? shouldn't he be as popular as this person? this is why major labels are fucked up' - etc. and when you have someone like freddie gibbs who was dropped from a major for - imo - obvious reasons, it's like "shut up jeff weiss, he is not the best cross section of biggie & pac and he was dropped for a good reason if you're trying to make money. just chill out"

― total eclipse of the shart (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, January 6, 2010 3:14 PM (3 hours ago)

yeah the first part of this is right, writerly contextualizing bullshit basically. like the music or dont

actually that whole post otm

actually the j stalin/Beeda Weeda Tonite Show one seems to be retail as well, or at last it made its way onto amazon

also, upthread table said j stalin is like calling yourself eazy hitler

but it's actually like calling your self

A HITLER

rappers done been calling themselves after dictators (though not A. Hitler, pretty sure that one's taboo)

i mean, i was just trying to make it more crazy swag.

that said, i actually cannot get over the fact that J. Stalin thinks that's an ok name to have. it's just o_O to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._K._Stalin

To me, the thing about Gibbs is he's a good rapper being really into him is like being really into Black Thought. He's a totally competent but rarely novel rapper who has nothing to recommend over his peers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNz77eX0ikU

this track was hard as f

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZIf7JysQrI&feature=player_embedded

leaked!!
http://i50.tinypic.com/zvx9b4.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5NX1vbcjYE

"dont front" is nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaZbifNNgOg

^^^love the geto boys style paranoia on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV__8P1IBv4&feature=player_embedded

snippets from the upcoming t-rock

hi stupidfruitycrazyswags

if any one of you has an mp3 of gangsta boo's "thought u knew" that you could send my way, i would appreciate it very much! the internet is not providing

http://videos.onsmash.com/v/4TmF429zwmPfbf3N

can someone explain how g-dep can still release ... at least, interesting music?

http://videos.onsmash.com/v/c2RT7jTxQVG5bGVq
HRO - Trapped feat cellski & lee majors

oh fucc

my boy out there says that cellski is like second to E-40 over there as far as status still. curious how he and mac mall managed to last not only through the mac dre thizz era and then hyphy but also (maybe just cellski here) into this new post-hyphy era

cnn headline: "Snowy scene in Brrrr-itain

"

another track off the jstalin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drPH7UEXeS0

juelz santana/yelawolf - mixin up the medicine is pretty hot IMO, i haven't really dug a juelz verse for a while either

damn, you guys jumped into '10 with both feet. I need to update my bookmarks.
Anyways, day late and dollar short, but the Yelawolf is v v nice

his 'rap up' this year was fucking embarrassing -- highly recommended i u think chris brown was treated unfairly ;_; -- but this song was slept on last year
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyQHxN_R360

nice song! that beat is very grown and sexy

ok Prenuptial Agreement is great. miles ahead of Gas Nation.

we already have a good rap album in 2010!

ooh jordan s is gonna deal drugs now prolly :(

ok so if they dont make "dont front" a single i dont know what

samples here if u dont feel like downloading the whole album:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0030GVM08/ref=dm_ap_alb26

keep stackin on em i don't care this d-boy blues

really digging the j stalin album.

though i would say...the street d-boy type jams >>> sexy jams on this album

song w/e-40 was a disappointment i thought

but i like a his rapping a whole bunch and the production...esp the stuff that seems to try to find a "third way" between hyphy hyper tech-y stuff and a more trad quik/dre west coast rnb flavor....

esp the stuff that seems to try to find a "third way" between hyphy hyper tech-y stuff and a more trad quik/dre west coast rnb flavor....

good example of this is the little smooth rnb live guitar licks they put over the track on "Don't Front", reminds me of the old Stan the Guitar Man stuff on old Dre productions

"self made millionaire" is nice in the vein too

someone needs to fucking stop people from writing about rap music on the internet when they don't know what the fuck theyre talking about. i stopped doing it because i know i don't know what the fuck im talking about so i do it here.

8ball and MJG no longer need to write lyrics. At this point, they could just make up words and take advantage of the fact that their voices are becoming even more gravelly, burdened by the weight of their mostly overlooked rap career. (Bad Boy signing notwithstanding—that just seemed like Diddy was using his wealth to help his rap heroes and we commend him for it.)

i would pay a lot of money to watch the reactions on their faces if this were a face-to-face convo

adventures in RONG

where's that from?

f4der

f4d3r

hey guys! so like, i have this theory that your lyrics don't matter anymore. is that true?

and how do you feel about the total jams on the new best coast ep!?! mjg, you first.

M@tt thats exactly right I think, like it sounds super modern & the sound is really sharp but instead of sounding dry its very very musical

'red and blue lights' is on some 'agent orange' w/out the gimmick sample plus a dose of mind playing tricks paranoia. j stalin does good choruses!

xpost

yeah musical is right...that's why the few tracks that do try a more hyphy real manic sounds sorta fall flat to me...

also i love how much gravitas jacka has when his verse finally enters on that track -- part of what bothered me about jacka doing tracks w/ like freeway is that i feel like it sorta shatters the illusion that these guys dont need the rest of rap cuz they have their own heroes

hey someone finally youtubed my jam XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuJbVhFO4o4

red & blue lights is really good too....i like the more stately, almost haunting type synth sounds...almost reminds me of like 80s tangerine dream movie soundtracks like "risky business" and shit....

"money on the way" is also a jam -- holy shit that first verse

haha i'm pretty sure "when the club over" is a weirdly chopped sample of "separate ways" by journey.reppin' for true old school bay area Gz!

haa i like that song too. and its sally got a one track mind pre feminism steez

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZQmO20BSaw

this was his first album

from '06

lollin @ the silk robe & monocle

yes that is shock g/humpty hump (& money b!)

also i saw saafir

i've only heard him in odd guest appearances over the years, but i always reall dig san quinn's voice and flow....does he have any albums worth hearing?

i remember digging this one
http://musicremedy.com/webfiles/artists/SanQuinn/SanQuinn-01-big.jpg

but i havent listened in ages, & when i checked his tape with DJ Fresh (the tonite show) from last year i thought he was kinda boring

A-rab muzik!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih7zhF6oMhE

holy fuck that is awesome.

holy fuck that is awesome.

― rap wacksodic (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 9 January 2010 22:24 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

are there other yt vids of ppl freaking out on mpcs? like turntabalism porn for a new generation?

holy fuck that is awesome.

― rap wacksodic (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 9 January 2010 22:24 (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

― Home Taping Is Killing Zack Morris (a hoy hoy), Saturday, January 9, 2010 2:38 PM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i dont know but theres a whole shit load of homemade impromptu ones of araab muzik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz2HZg9kNQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kqA5n_VDzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I8wQmoPqRQ

he's from Providence, RI originally

by the way, JAY ELECTRONICA is currently being played daily on mix shows in hot 97 in NYC.

http://www.rappersiknow.com/2009/12/28/dj-enuff-makes-exhibit-c-the-heavy-hitter-pick-of-the-week/

lol @ him going full-on wank in that last vid

What are this guys productions like? Why has no-one bought him a copy of I Care Because U Do and a copy of From Here We Go Sublime yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mC8YaOlKfNM

didnt realize this track was so old!

good album closer regardless

haven't watched those youtubes but araabmuzik had a bunch of dogshit knockoff heatmakerz beats on the last cam album

i dont wanna hate if everyone is enjoying the shit outta that or whatever but it looks to me like...a dj making a beat? cool

ok Prenuptial Agreement is great.

^^^^^^ "Don't Fron't" esp.

'money on the way' & 'u broke' are the ones im bumping all the time now

i like when lil b really raps
http://videos.onsmash.com/v/Bq9HVxQynEF3udUJ

fwiw, guys,

divinci is like the buckethead of mpcs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OQi5sNb-VQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piDstAVexgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScuGQ8H7DFg

im w/ k3ller in that i dont really care abt this stuff although its fun to watch once i guess

i hope hip-hop's new years resolution is to put out one fucking mixtape or CD that shows up in my iTunes as one artist

you can just denote it as a compilation in itunes options

thanks but then it still sprays 20 different listings under the "artists" section title in my iphone

seriously no genre has more fucking ponderous tagging than rap leaks

"group compilations when browsing" should fix that

ah i guess the iphone does not have that option :/

'money on the way' & 'u broke' are the ones im bumping all the time now

"Money On The Way" is amazing and kinda bizarre, I can't think offhand of anything that quite captures that vibe.

Love the symphonic drama of a lot of the arrangements on this record, esp. this track - puts me in mind of the eighties in a way that's different and a lot stronger maybe than most of what passes for eighties revivalism. Like, I wanna say Moroder soundtracking 'Metropolis', though that may be a long bow to draw.

yeah i tried to say the same thing this way, but moroder is a good comparison too

i like the more stately, almost haunting type synth sounds...almost reminds me of like 80s tangerine dream movie soundtracks like "risky business" and shit....

also it might be a lil corny but i'm loving the fugees chorus on "when it's real"

but i'm kinda nostaligic for fugees lately.

"red & blue lights" is so amazing

i kinda feel like the production on songs like this is what people that bought all that bullshit kanye was selling with his last album thought they were hearing...like some real amazing dark and haunting 80 synth stuff but still real hip hop with emotion

i remember seeing a video of a dude playing crazy jazz-fusion drums on an mpc, can't find it now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upKMyOh8Ch4

xpost

araabmuzik being a shit maker is so sad considering dude has bags of talent. should have guessed from the diplomats association i guess.

kill yourself.

tried that already

oh shit. my bad dog.

didn't work so i moved into a redneck neighbourhood as further punishment

his beats are fuckin awesome you guys are tripping

ok well ilm can take youtube clips not by j stalin iirc

not of nu-dips though

this place is dipphobic

besides "curve" and "get it in ohio" which are both classics and you should already have heard, he did most of the DJ Drama/Cam'ron "Boss Of All Bosses" and I'm pretty sure the second one that is about to come out. also he's done some shit for Hell Rell and JR Writer but i dont listen to them anymore

not for everyone

...just when hell rell needed you most ;_;

http://maddecent.com/blog/2010/01/11/gucci-mane-diplo-presents-free-gucci-best-of-the-cold-war-mixtapes/
great url

oh okay i just posted that on the gucci thread. you guys are only hipper than me by like 7 minutes.

scott you are a cool dude that i wish posted to the rap threads more, and it bums me out that the rare occasion on which you post to 2 in a row is re: Deiplo

haha weird typo, don't know how that happened

N2Deeplo

i only posted that link cuz i know there is gucci love here. don't reaally care about diplo.

ditto, but don't really care about gucci

yeah but that still raises the question of why you'd post about it when diplo releases a gucci mixtape but not when gucci releases a gucci mixtape

in any case i think the main point is that skot should post in this thread more : )

http://twitter.com/dojaclik/status/7640088810

Doja Click - Talkin Bout Me (feat. Turf talk, E-40), street radio & instro

old but getting noticed now, it's a monster and you guys like the bay shit so

here's the utoob:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4qxvLbF3JQ

Deiplo = u secretly think the man is a god.

cool track but it sounds stuck in a '06 era hyphy mindset

true enough

still a monster tho. i think we've established i got no problem with throwbacks.

"yeah but that still raises the question of why you'd post about it when diplo releases a gucci mixtape but not when gucci releases a gucci mixtape"

got mailed the url by diplo's press guy and apparently not yet on gucci's press guy's press list

spoken like a true blogger

"i just post what's in my inbox" = 90% of music blogs

compounded by the fact that like 70% of ppl in the rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread probably get biz3 emails already

jesus christ, there's someone called "teen wolf" now

don't ever ever evet fucking post in this thread about something with someone called "teen wolf" on it

"compounded by the fact that like 70% of ppl in the rolling stupid fruity crazy swag thread probably get biz3 emails already"

yeah see thats what i figured but i did it anyway. so shoot me!

now playing:

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/s/smith_jimmy_portugues_101b.jpg

http://blogs.fayobserver.com/entertainment/files/2009/06/teenwolf.jpg
^Whiney this morning

new jacka tape leaked ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEyG_O278gw&feature=player_embedded

whatever that song is in the middle is A+

Found it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV2K1F6FRmQ

^__^

the jacka tape as a whole is just ok, its got a few jams tho

back to j stalin for a minute...in addition to tangerine dream also sorta reminds me of the score to The Warriors a bit

I had this question pop into my head yesterday: Who is the newest East Coast rapper you follow? Not just check for occasionally, but regularly follow. I can't think of anyone who fits that bill newer than Freeway, who's been around for 10 whole years now.

I'm probably forgetting someone really obvious.

http://mixtapes.icecreamtapes.com/-DJ%20Dub%20Jay/Electronica%20Victory/front.jpg

^^^ enjoying

Rev: by east coast i guess you mean northeast? Cuz there's certainly a few newer guys out of the southeast worth following.
Otherwise, I think dipset is post Free.

by east coast i guess you mean northeast?

Obviously.

Cam's been around longer than Free. Juelz & Jimmy have been around just as long. Are you checking for anyone else from Dipset?

eh, i dunno; it's just quibbling. Your point is valid; what am I gonna say, Papoose?

folks were repping for termanology for a lil bit

then his album was like 10 tracks long & boring. trying to drop an 'illmatic,' so dum

anybody want to stand up for mickey factz?

or maino?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py4DZL2LxGk

new Cam'ron mixtape is sooooo good. much much better than the first Drama tape. seriously dope don't mind the awful cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwhTwCu8KCM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHJWEI6gVwM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1eiM5qMGX4

he's back to like pre-killa season rapping and Vado is a tolerable replacement for Juelz...lacks the personality but sounds kinda like him and his flow is good enough and less weirdo than juelz' as to make him kinda just keep things going rather than let the tracks get bogged down when he shows up. production is kinda next level actually, really tight and consistent.

also, pretty much NO DRAMA on this tape! how bout that

this is the best example of the chemistry here between the two rappers and whoever is making these beats (presumably araabmuzik)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q3QF6vanUA

lol that intro is ridiculous

"let's go avatar on these niggas...biggest movie ever"

i think "Nuthin Like Araab Muzik" is easily the best rap song of oh ten and its gonna take a while for anything to even come close

shit is murder!!!

even vado kills it

it's like I-95 music by throbbing gristle

i haven't listened to this more than once through and will give it more time but tbh i'm not hearing this chemistry. cam is still rapping his ass off but this other guy is just juelz without the sense of humour?

yeah basically

i didnt say the chemistry was that great

im gettin slime flu though

oh yeah and YOUNG DRO is on it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjKtcovERsg

giving it a download now.

Yelawolf:

"Hold your legs up indian-style, let me be Chief Lap-A-Hoe"

XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD

^_^

been listening to all these old jacka tapes lately. so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmF9MO9Q1ik

that's dope -- production sounds to me like if someone said "make peak-era ja rule as street as possible, but make sure it's still kinda glitzy"

he destroys this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NMMlAe2fEI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk9A4KfeSdI

i think "shooterz" might be my favorite jacka tape ive heard

dj fresh is so good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL7CV7DugcM

beeda weeda is dope

btw, how great is FAB on "neghborhood stars"

this stuff is pretty good but i kinda hate when this thread-- or any thread really-- just turns into 30 successive posts of youtube videos

^^^

imo ILM was damn near ruined when whoever changed the code to auto-embed yt shit even when you try to just link it

i agree autoembed is kinda annoying but i have to say as soon as j0rdan posted that i was like 'countdown to shipl3y cosign'

i am to autoembed as j0hn d is to poll threads, it's true

Streaming audio in-thread is cool, but sometimes without any sort of comment at all, or 3+ from one release, it seems like a sort of info dump. Maybe if there was an option to embed at height="25", they wouldn't seem so intrusive/hard to load? Most here don't have videos. Best of both worlds maybe.

well i don't think they are obtrusive really, but a deluge of them kinda kills the thread

thread wasnt really humming along

d-lo is #1 on rcrdlbl right now...the snoop dogg remix from the tonite show

that's weird to me..is it because snoop is on it or is it like being appreciated as a novelty

has anyone here heard "No Hoe" anywhere

no but im not from the west coast

this new wiz kalifah / neako track bangs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpJ5gHclCiE

guys, if you turn images off, all the youtube videos appear as hyperlinks, pretty sweet

yeah...and then you can't see images. it'd be nice if you could just turn youtube embeds off.

lollin @ this new gucci verse on the rich girl track:

call me mr. scandal
im too hot to handle
pull up in a phantom the color of purple fanta
swag so sick make ya eggs need mylanta
kid so rich have ya flyin to atlanta
gucci mane single so all my dates double
i like gettin rich good girls in trouble
i had a girl we broke up she kept buyin rovers
little sister, hit her, cousin, hit her homegirl and her mother, gucci

i like being able to selectively click on the image links too, esp at work

wiz khalifa sounds good but neako is generic. this beat needs a better song

dunno how i feel about this article

http://marquee.blogs.cnn.com/2010/01/14/austin-city-limits-to-air-first-ever-hip-hop-hour/?hpt=Sbin

wow

He said he also was impressed that Mos Def recognized so many of the photos hanging on the dressing room wall – past “ACL” acts ranging from country crooner Loretta Lynn to choral rockers Polyphonic Spree.

like, i honestly bet dude from ACL was like, "Oh yeah, it was really cool, we had these convos about Loretta Lynn after he saw her pic on the wall. Dude has a real deep knowledge of music."

and the writer made it read totally condescending

i dont see how u have any idea either way, whiney

but regardless, wtf is the deal with k'naan? i tried watching some youtubes & they all sounded more like coldplay than rap msuic

is dude like the ultimate NPR rapper or what -- every context i hear him referenced in is not leading me to be any more interested

is dude like the ultimate NPR rapper or what

i mean, basically yeah. but i think that's actually a marketing problem that's keeping him from having any cred among internrrd types/hip-hop geeks.

I mean stuff like this is actually kinda dope:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQmdTt5dPQ

jesus christ that shitty video makes me want to take back everything i just said.

cool beat, would like to hear someone else on it

K'Naan's album is pretty damn good, but is basically the epitome of the granola stuff that's essentially off limits round these parts

dude
whats good about it

if you really like it make a case for it, ppl on ilx have a pretty wide breadth of interests in rap

i mean correct me if im wrong but generally speaking isnt it 'internerd geeks/hip hop geeks" + NPR that = his fanbase?

yo can you do an "essential" street albums/mixtapes/retails list of new bay

like Jacka The Street Album, DJ Fresh etc...

i'm so overwhelmed

i was takin about the post-dipset/trap/jeezyweezy indie fuxx0r internrrd geeks who thinks any rap that doesn't mention coke or guns is automatically uncool and for losers.

but anyway, to make my case, i haven't heard the KNAAN album in like a year, but what i remember, it alternates between softie eclectic Carnival-era wyclef stuff with the occasional total banger sprinkled in between. and dude basically talks very frankly about the very fucked up situations in africa, which is the "black cnn" idea for a internet-connected world to a tee--which is prolly why npr types like him, but it actually works in a way that i don't think is corny at all.

then its not really a 'marketing problem' is it? thats like saying the xx have a 'marketing problem' with post dipset indie fuxxor internerd geeks

can you just like chill with the dicing everybody into little groups of nerds based on your own distorted perceptions? its really tedious

new ILM motto

he's saying the guy makes some bangers that a non-NPR rap fan would enjoy divorced of the context of the rest of his career, deej, calm down

1. deej is otm about my def of "marketing problem." i guess i really mean its just one of those things that will sell records but will never be popular among "cool people" even though its really good (see also: Robert Randolph, most African music that isn't Konono No. 1)

2. yeah dude, i'm aware that the actual difference between Strange Famous battle geeks, ughh.com Nas stans and GorillaVsBear-reading cokey new-jacks is narcissism of small differences, but if you can't see these shades of gray, i don't know how you've lasted so long on ILX

k'naan is okay and he's particularly strong live

is gucci out of jail yet

btw when is a good rapper going to freestyle over "on to the next one"

jay did alright himself tbh, only tolerable performance by him on that album

wtf are these gorillavsbear references I've been seeing lately? i thought that was a chillgaze fansite?

it's whiney's token stand-in for crack-rap bandwagon indie fans

btw when is a good rapper going to freestyle over "on to the next one"

bun b did

actually, he's not good anymore

;_;

k'naan is okay and he's particularly strong live

Truth bomb. Honestly, I quite like his two albums - which should both be corny and awful and worthy based on what they are but are not purely on the strength of his skill/personality/ear. But he wins you over with his live sets - fiercely charismatic, fucks with arrangements and songs all the time, great chemistry with his band (who are pretty tight themselves)...just a consummate SHOWMAN. It's easier if I don't think of him as a rapper per se - rap is one of the things in his tool kit but it's not the only one or necessarily the most important. Sort of like latter-day Mos Def (at least live).

To clarify, not like latter-day Mos in terms of sound, just in terms of how he functions as a performer/recording artist.

he's saying the guy makes some bangers that a non-NPR rap fan would enjoy divorced of the context of the rest of his career, deej, calm down

― some dude, Friday, January 15, 2010 11:30 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

im just asking for less 'internerd' anthropology & more actual enthusiasm for stuff he likes, i dont think thats really such a big deal. although based on the songs online this stuff is just too unrepentantly cheesy
& whiney's scarequotes around "cool" are making me think of the lecoq quote:

Not much of a drinker, but if I get my work done early, I've sometimes pop two NyQuil capsules and then jelly-belly my way around the office, giving people hugs and whistling "Patience" by G'n'R. There's this one guy I detest, though, and once I found his chair empty so I just gurgled up a nice one and spat on it. Immediately afterwards I got paranoid and rubbed it into the upholstery and walk- sprinted away. As I wiped my finger on my sock I bitterly realized that the whole process probably resulted in me getting more spit on my clothes than on his. Hmmm. I don't want to physically assault him; trying to chip away at him psychologically wont work - he's one of those people so removed from any social loop that nothing offends him (Example: Me: "You're wearing neon yellow suspenders and a sweater your gramma knitted you and your fly is undone you dumb bastard." Him: "Well I'm SOOOOORRY...I guess I don't conform to your standards of "COOOL" and "FASHION", hmph!").
I think I'm just gonna steal his fucking stapler.

-- Ramosi (olafsonski...), February 1st, 2002.

It's easier if I don't think of him as a rapper per se - rap is one of the things in his tool kit but it's not the only one or necessarily the most important. Sort of like latter-day Mos Def (at least live).

― Alex in Montreal, Friday, January 15, 2010 2:38 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah this is part of what is so eye-roll-y about it to me. of COURSE this guy -- a non-rapping rapper from another country -- would be one of the first rappers on austin city limits

they should get buck 65 tbh

since you brought him up i will rep the "bike for three!" record

sorry guys

ooh, i hate the Bike For Three record. But I loved Situation

i pretty much hate everything else he has done. but i love the production on that BFT record and the belgian chick is taut.

i'll stan for Talkin Honky Blues forever

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=122319397

weird list, esp since i know noz is no Drake fan. including a drake mixtape but not a kanye one is kinda crazy! those early kanye mixtapes were awesome.

id pick that tupac 'rap phenomenon' mix before any juelz mixtapes too

the drake thing seems like some weird concession-- i skipped the intro but maybe he was trying to "objectively" rank tapes in terms of general impact on rap and/or the artists career?-- cuz noz has spent a good amount of time on twitter/blog trashing drake

had no idea that that t.i. tape even existed

its actually a couple of tapes -- i found out about them from ethan's old blog back when he was still posting but then they were almost impossible to find. the 2nd one from '03 is amazing

impossible to find ... outside of atlanta i mean, obv

eh as much as i loved those kanye mixtapes they weren't a media-anointed SEMINAL MIXTAPE MOMENT like So Far Gone or a lot of the other stuff on the list, and obviously he was being kind of withering and obligatory with SFG's inclusion anyway

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im surprised to hear u say that tbh. weren't those mixtapes responsible for a whole bunch of "well its good but not as good as..." type commentary when his lp dropped?

kinda, but i mean, Get Well Soon, I'm Good etc. were largely stuff that he produced for major label releases and songs that were on either the official College Dropout or the early leaked version. they helped his buzz as an artist, but it all felt like part of a bigger buzz about his singles, his productions, his overall image, etc.

compare that to the canonical 50 and Wayne mixtapes that have zero material in common w/ the blockbuster albums that followed and Kanye's mixtapes feel a lot less essential or list-worthy in and of themselves, y'know?