ILX METAL ALBUMS OF THE YEAR 2008 RESULTS (NOW COUNTING DOWN THE TOP TEN, BTW)

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Thanks to all who voted. A BIG thanks to MUSICALLY for providing advice and the template. and a BIG thanks to GLENN for tabulating the results. Much appreciated so direct all thanks to them.
Glenn will also be providing more stats during the week.

191 albums were voted for so I shall post a list of the albums 100-51 now and then Monday-Friday I shall post the remainder of the top 50 with any blurbs (if any get sent in) and artwork.
If you want to see the full list I can post it at the end.

Now here is the albums ranked 100-51 for you to check out if you don't know them.

100 Trees - Lights Bane
99 Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine
98 A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within
97 The Lizards - är-chē-ol’-ō-gy
96 Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico
95 Burst - Lazarus Bird
94 Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
93 Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart
92 Gevolt - Sidur
91 In This Moment - The Dream

90 Graveyard - Graveyard
89 Morkobot - Morto
88 Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
87 In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
86 Aura Noir - Hades Rise
85 Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight
84 Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt
83 Dir En Grey - Uroboros
82 Candlemass - Lucifer Rising
81 Ayreon - 01011001

80 Pyramids - Pyramids
79 Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss
78 Tyr - Land
77 Equilibrium - Sagas
76 Samothrace - Lifes Trade
75 Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
74 Septicflesh - Communion
73 Ocrilim - Annwn
72 Death Angel - Killing Season
71 Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life

70 Motorhead - Motorizer
69 Girlschool - Legacy
68 Sex/Vid - Communal Living
67 US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
66 Helms Alee - Night Terror
65 Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
64 Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
63 Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
62 Brave - Monuments
61 Jarboe - Mahakali

60 Conifer - Crown Fire
59 Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie
58 Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
57 Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
56 Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
55 Amen Ra - Mass IIII
54 The Sword - Gods of the Earth
53 Eluveitie - Slania
52 Zebulon Pike - Intransience
51 Racebannon - Acid or Blood

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I am extremely fail, I like metal and listen to a fair bit of it but have heard none of those!

I think I'll use this list to check stuff out, Racebannon first I think, noisey punky Locustesque stuff on Southern if I remember correctly?

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Well that's the idea. If you don't know the albums then check them out since some ilxors liked them enough to bother voting for them.

That's the Racebannon, except they were on Secretly Canadian for most of the time.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought it was funny that Girlschool finished one place ahead of Motorhead.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 18 January 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Hahahhahh

I am a vampire, therefore I take garlic pills (Bimble), Sunday, 18 January 2009 23:02 (fifteen years ago) link

No 50
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/7/9/9/179995.jpg
Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Any chance of getting # of votes/points for each? I'm assuming most of these were only picked by one voter?

EZ Snappin, Monday, 19 January 2009 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

it received 50 votes. It's actually a tie with the next entry (but im still awaiting a blurb for that from someone)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 00:25 (fifteen years ago) link

How many points does a no 1 ranked album get? and a number 2 and so forth?

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Monday, 19 January 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

A no1 ranked album received 25 points. No 2 received 24 points. and so on.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 00:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Assuming the math is correct, everything higher than 90th place (and maybe a couple spots below that) had to be named by more than one voter. (I know that, because my #1 finished 94th, and I also voted for #90, which means it had to have received at least one other vote from somebody else to beat my #1.)

I am happy to learn, also, that I wasn't the only person to vote for Helrunar, Ayreon, Dornenreich, or Girlschool (all of which also beat my #1.)

So how did you guys break ties?

xhuxk, Monday, 19 January 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

For 100-51 we didn't. Alphabetical order I'm afraid. Didn't have enough time for that and didn't think anyone would care for the smaller ranked albums.
For 50-1 any ties will just see a joint placing UNLESS it received a no1 vote(s). The album with most no1 votes gets preference.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

no 50 (Tied)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CnhfmUHWbrM/SLsRC66Au4I/AAAAAAAAAg0/MO7mP5ia16Q/s320/Blue+Sabbath+Front.jpg
Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled (Gnarled Forest) 50 points.

The people who make this music are absolutely KRAZY in the best way possible. This is Haunted House music in the extreme, with a lot of ghosts attached. I think it's fantastic and I can't think of a single thing to compare it to. These people are so tuned into THE GOTH that they are literally ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT. Very scary 3 AM music. Play at your own risk. --- Bimble

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 01:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Graveyard and In This Moment, tied on 27 points, are the last multi-voter albums before the one-voter albums start. There are a few 2-voter albums below that, but the lowest-ranked 3-voter album is Trees, which is actually in a tie for 97th.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 19 January 2009 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Xhuxk I also voted for Helrunar, Dornenreich, and Ayreon. Didn't hear Girlschool though.

Dimension 5ive, Monday, 19 January 2009 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I won't post any stats from which you could guess the winners yet, but I think it's safe to mention that I have a ranking of the 30 voters by centricity, and Xhuxk is last.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 19 January 2009 04:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Of the 190 albums that got at least one vote, 79 of them got only one vote. 38 more got only 2 votes, and 20 more got only 3.

15 of the 30 voters filled up all 25 slots, 15 didn't. There were 8 voters who didn't have anything for which they were the only voter. 6 more voters had only 1 album nobody else voted for, and 8 more had only 2. At the other extreme, one voter (i.e. Xhuxk) had 15 of 25 albums that nobody else mentioned, and another voter had 13.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 19 January 2009 05:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Are you going to tell us who had what?

Mordy, Monday, 19 January 2009 05:10 (fifteen years ago) link

No 48
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/0/8/7/208724.jpg
Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth (Metal blade) 52 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 09:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Are the album pics showing for everyone?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 09:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't paste pics from Rateyourmusic, they never show.

Tuomas, Monday, 19 January 2009 11:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll post a bunch more voter stats after Pfunk finishes his rollout!

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 19 January 2009 13:32 (fifteen years ago) link

No 47
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/9/3/6/193646.jpg
Withered - Folie Circulaire (Prosthetic Records) 54 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

47 (tied)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/8/9/8/189886.jpg
Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness (Crucial Blast) 54 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 15:48 (fifteen years ago) link

45 (tied)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/0/4/9/204927.jpg
Metallica - Death Magnetic (Warner Bros) 55 points

HAW! - Roxymuzak

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

45 (tied)
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/7/4/6/174602.jpg
Unearthly Trance - Electrocution (Relapse) 55 points.

Kicks the shit out of Death Magnetic - pfunkboy

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

43
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/2/0/9/5/209539.jpg
Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony (Rise Above) 59 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 17:42 (fifteen years ago) link

hey it's one of the like four albums i heard from the original list!

HI BLOOD CEREMONY ALBUM! HIIIIIIII!!!!

HELPING CHILDREN THROUGH RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 19 January 2009 17:44 (fifteen years ago) link

You like it?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone got any comments on the albums listed so far? Someone must have, people voted for them!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

My comment is that Uroboros (Dir En Grey) is the only record I own that GF absolutely cannot abide, a record that makes her question my ability to differentiate between "interesting" oddity and intolerable bullshit. This is by no means a defense of Dir En Grey. I feel the same way, that it represents the point at which contenderizer and "any semblance of good taste" finally part ways (not that they were ever really on good terms in the first place).

This is the Trans-Siberian Orchestra of heavy metal. Crazy technical death-prog + Patton-esque vocal gymnastics + boatloads of toxic arena pomp = pyramid of horrors. But I love it. The wacky goblin shit makes me laugh, and helps the maudlin emo crooner gak go down smooth, and the production is like a mad doctor's lab in an old horror flick, every sound a neat little trick of some sort or another. It's been ages since I had a real guilty pleasure, a record I was truly embarassed by my affection for, but if I've ever had one, this is it.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Monday, 19 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

oh btw are the images working now?

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, 19 January 2009 20:02 (fifteen years ago) link

They are for me.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

They worked before and still do.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Monday, 19 January 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i dont have any blurbs for the top 50 as of yet, but i will say a few things - the Zebulon Pike record is a pretty astonishing accomplishment, heavy, droning at times and speedy at others, meticulously arranged and rehearsed. looooong long instrumental songs, but completely captivating. (point of disclosure - the new bass player is a good friend of mine, but this really isn't nepotism, it is a crushingly original great record).

My other nod has to go to Belphegor who just plain deliver the goods without any really out there attempts at anything, but they do it so well that you cant fault anything about it. big mean ugly brutal metal, and although i didnt give it my number one spot, it might be the album i listened to more than any other this year.

xpost: oh i meant the RYM image links i replaced. so thats good news then.

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, 19 January 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

42
http://www.reviewbusters.net/images/music/disfear_live_the_storm_cover.jpg
Disfear - Live the Storm (Relapse) 60 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm looking forward to the reaction to the no 41 album

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

well now so am i

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Obviously you aren't looking forward to it THAT much!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Monday, 19 January 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm building suspense so that you can all share a greater sense of disappointment

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

And I can bump the thread and you all rush to see no 41.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

No 41
http://cdn.stereogum.com/img/thumbnails/posts/marnie_stern-this_is_it-album_art.jpg
Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It (Kill Rock Stars) 61 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago) link

uh

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, 19 January 2009 22:52 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.dalegunner.com/images/bloggies/deathtofalsemetal.gif

A. Begrand, Monday, 19 January 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

john justen approves or disapproves?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:09 (fifteen years ago) link

It shows how open-minded ilx metal fans are.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:12 (fifteen years ago) link

disapproves. strenuously.

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

all due respect but wow do i not even slightly get how that sort of placement is possible.

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:15 (fifteen years ago) link

lets see how many voted for it..

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:16 (fifteen years ago) link

lets see how many who voted for it..

scourge of cords (Z S), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

two people had it in their top4 and another few had it in their lists on top. Anymore stats stuff I'll leave to Glenn.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I would have voted for it but there was 25 metal albums I thought deserved it more. I think I voted for it in the main ilx poll though.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

and it's a damn site better than Death Magnetic

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

all due respect but wow do i not even slightly get how that sort of placement is possible.

― non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, January 19, 2009 11:15 PM (9 minutes ago)

didnt mean this as some sort of "you did the math wrong" thing, btw. i mean that i can not wrap my head around enjoying marnie stern that much, or at least thinking of her as a great metal album contender.

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Not at all surprised my the high Marnie Stern album placement. A few folks around here went gaga over it a while back. I mean, I didn't vote for it, but I did vote for several things that I would never in a million years call metal. I assumed all entries nominated in good faith, so I just picked what I though were the 25 best records in the list -- not the 25 "most metal" or some shit.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

but taste is wonderful because it is different and blah blah blah so i will shut up now xpost

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

i really like marnie stern (and zach hill) and I'm pleased it's placed. I like the fact we can have BSBC, Marnie Stern and Girlschool all in a top 100.
It sure beats the same old traditional troo kvlt lists that are around. The fact people voted for them proves they deserved their place in the nominations.

I wonder what would have happened if Portishead and The Bug had got nominated due to their metal associations.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 19 January 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Apart from meaning the lex would like albums on a metal list.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Even if you disregard points, the albums with 4 votes are in a tie for 42nd. Stern got four, all from voters who also voted for stuff that you'll see at the top of the list. I actually hadn't heard her album until after voting. It doesn't fit my personal instinctive definition of metal, but I like it a lot. Better than anything in the top 13 of this poll!

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 00:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Now you're being silly!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 00:49 (fifteen years ago) link

I've messed up somewhere along the line with tied votes. glenn can check to make sure but it appears every album should be one place higher. (ive asked on mod req board to fix it)

So this is actually
no 39
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/9/2/2/192246.jpg
Darkspace - III (Avant Garde Records) 62 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

this isnt my day. 1st i get the order wrong now the darkspace album pic wont show

ARGGHHHHHH

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's what we have so far:

Rank - Points - Voters - Artist - Album

97 - 23 - 1 - A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within
97 - 23 - 2 - Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine
97 - 23 - 1 - Everon - North
97 - 23 - 1 - Legless - Finding Mr. Perfect
97 - 23 - 1 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
97 - 23 - 3 - Trees - Lights Bane
94 - 24 - 1 - Burst - Lazarus Bird
94 - 24 - 1 - Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico
94 - 24 - 1 - The Lizards - archeology
91 - 25 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur
91 - 25 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart
91 - 25 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
89 - 27 - 3 - Graveyard - Graveyard
89 - 27 - 2 - In This Moment - The Dream
84 - 28 - 2 - Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight
84 - 28 - 2 - Aura Noir - Hades Rise
84 - 28 - 2 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
84 - 28 - 3 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
84 - 28 - 3 - Morkobot - Morto
82 - 29 - 3 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
82 - 29 - 2 - Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt
80 - 30 - 2 - Ayreon - 01011001
80 - 30 - 2 - Candlemass - Lucifer Rising
78 - 31 - 2 - Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss
78 - 31 - 2 - Pyramids - Pyramids
76 - 32 - 2 - Equilibrium - Sagas
76 - 32 - 4 - Tyr - Land
74 - 33 - 3 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
74 - 33 - 2 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade
70 - 34 - 2 - Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life
70 - 34 - 3 - Death Angel - Killing Season
70 - 34 - 3 - Ocrilim - Annwn
70 - 34 - 2 - Septicflesh - Communion
69 - 35 - 4 - Motorhead - Motorizer
68 - 36 - 2 - Girlschool - Legacy
67 - 37 - 2 - Sex/Vid - Communal Living
64 - 38 - 3 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
64 - 38 - 2 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
64 - 38 - 4 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
63 - 39 - 3 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
61 - 40 - 2 - Brave - Monuments
61 - 40 - 2 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
58 - 41 - 2 - Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie
58 - 41 - 2 - Conifer - Crown Fire
58 - 41 - 3 - Jarboe - Mahakali
56 - 42 - 3 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
56 - 42 - 2 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
54 - 44 - 4 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
54 - 44 - 3 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
53 - 46 - 4 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
52 - 47 - 5 - Eluveitie - Slania
50 - 48 - 3 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - Zebulon Pike - Intransience
48 - 50 - 4 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
47 - 52 - 4 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
45 - 54 - 4 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
43 - 55 - 4 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 5 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
42 - 59 - 4 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
41 - 60 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm
40 - 61 - 4 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
39 - 62 - 4 - Darkspace - III

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not going to be very popular with the mods :(

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Don't sweat it. You had 'em in the right order, and who gives a crap whether The Sword is #53 or #54? Onward!

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

No 39
http://cdn.overstock.com/images/products/muze/music/L1036622.jpg
Intronaut - Prehistoricisms (Century Media Records) 63 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago) link

WAIT NO THAT IS NUMBER 38 right?

non-ironic safety helmet wearer (John Justen), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:46 (fifteen years ago) link

aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

yes. please fix that one at least and remove this and the above scream thanks :)

time for bed methinks

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 01:49 (fifteen years ago) link

i'll post the next one in the morning once Intronaut gets changed to no38. This time, bed!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

no 37
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/8/7/0/187031.jpg
Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth (I Hate) 66 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 12:42 (fifteen years ago) link

no 36
http://syrfox.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/genghis_tron-board_up_the_house.jpg
Genghis Tron - Board Up the House (Relapse) 68 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry for no blurbs but I didn't receive any and I'm not a writer so I couldn't do anything decent.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

My blurb for Jex Thoth is that I haven't heard it yet. Was curious, as it was made to sound cool by people whose job that is.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:08 (fifteen years ago) link

had I got around to voting, marnie would have been in my list too. because it's ace.

and no, it's not metal, but it certainly rocks more than, say, the kayo dot album (which I also love, but is largely metal by association rather than by sound).

nice work on the list, pfunk. very interested to see what else crops up.

m the g, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:15 (fifteen years ago) link

l0u1s jagg3r complained about the inclusion of kayo dot. But he didn't bother to vote so who cares about him! ;)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Most of the thanks should go to Musically & Glenn.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I only heard a bit of 'Worship Me Or Die' or whatever that Marnie album is called, but the bit I heard could have reasonably been deemed Van Halen dickwaving if you didn't know who was waving it, so it's legit imo

Pescetarian Reich (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

If it was instrumental I think there would be less complaints about it.
Anyway it's a really good album, end of.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, what the heck, I'll spoil the surprise:

35. Obama
34. Obama
33. Obama
32. Obama
31. Obama
30. Obama
29. Obama
28. Obama
27. Obama
26. Obama
25. Obama
24. Obama
23. Obama
22. Obama
21. Obama
20. Obama
19. Obama
18. Obama
17. Obama
16. Obama
15. Obama
14. Obama
13. Obama
12. Obama
11. Obama
10. Obama
9. Obama
8. Obama
7. Obama
6. Obama
5. Guns And Roses - Chinese Democracy
4. Obama
3. Obama
2. Obama
1. Obama

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for spoiling who is not no1

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

no 35
http://www.metal-archives.com/images/1/8/8/7/188728.jpeg
Witch - Paralyzed (Tee Pee) 70 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

In order to continue not spoiling anything, I will neither confirm nor deny Pfunk's insinuation that I have revealed anything.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

should never have allowed axl and his hired hands to vote. I suspected they weren't ilxors

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:10 (fifteen years ago) link

How does the Deathspell Omega album compare to Fas -- Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeternum?

Sundar, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think it got the acclaim the previous two got, but I could be wrong. I haven't heard it so I'm not really in a position to answer you though :)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe Scott or j0hn can answer.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Just to build suspense a little for #34, I'll mention that it has the highest average point-rating of any album with 3 or more voters!

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:31 (fifteen years ago) link

And it got a number one vote. I feel guilty for not voting for it. I thought it would have been top ten for sure.

2 albums i thought were definite top 10s (one of which I thought was a potential no1) didn't make the 10(the last one possibly because it's fans on the rolling metal thread didn't vote).

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

oh and for the "where's the tr00 kvlt metal on this list?" Where were your votes? ;)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Speaking of #1 votes, there was only one album that got 3 #1 votes (and it didn't win) and only 4 that got 2 #1 votes (one of which didn't even make the top 20).

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's a snippet of something I wrote about the Witch album (#35) when it came out:

While trying to find a concise description of what they now sound like, I stumbled onto the following idea: Gene Ween and Mark Arm locked in a shipping container and given a day to record a bunch of songs based on an eight year-olds’ written description of The Stooges’ Fun House. It isn’t really accurate, but there is something so fuzzed-out, sloppy, naively charming and innocently joyous about Paralyzed; something that both Ween and Mudhoney have managed on occasion in their long careers.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

34
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Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass (Profoundlore) 71 points(1 no1 vote)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:17 (fifteen years ago) link

New Deathspell kind of splits the difference between Kenose and Fas et c. Not as ambient/blurry as the former, but not as fiercely jagged as the former. Kenose is my favorite DO so far, and this is right up there with it. Maybe they just do better with the short albums/long songs thing.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone got comments on the Hammers Of Misfortune?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I sheepishly have not heard HoM. At all. On the list...

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 18:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I like it. I know Jeff liked it a lot. The ilxor who had it at no1, I don't know who he/she is. But they were the 1st person to vote.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

"How does the Deathspell Omega album compare to Fas -- Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeternum?"

it's not an album. just one 22 minute track. which is kind of an album if you grew up with albums that were 20+ minutes long. it was half of a split LP put out in 2008. and it is being released this year (this month) as a single EP. i've only heard the track online. sounded like what you would expect from them.

i guess people were voting for the 2009 EP promo and not the split with S.V.E.S.T. that came out last year.

Maria :D, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

um, that was me...

scott seward, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

hi, maria

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Scott you didn't vote :(

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

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Ascend - Ample Fire Within (Southern Lord) 72 points

The best album Greg Anderson has been involved with in years - pfunkboy

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link

YES! Where's UFOmammut already?

Doran, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link

You will just have to wait and see if it made it or not!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Which is why 191-101 hasn't been revealed nor have the albums with zero votes. So no-one can guess what's in the rest of the poll. I'm sure there will be more surprises for some of you.

Glenn may have stats on the zero vote albums, I don't know.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey, did I miss anything?

8. Opeth - Watershed (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Yes, we inaugurated the first black metal president.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link

rofl

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

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Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect (Hydra Head) 78 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

rofl

8. Opeth - Watershed (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Why Are You Not Perfect?

8. Opeth - Watershed (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Glenn I dont have my notes on this comp, did jesu get in a lot of top 10s? Or did it just pick up votes from most voters? I don't recall it being that high in many lists.
I love Jesu but it's one of many releases last year by JK and I don't remember being that struck by it. I wonder if he's taken Jesu as far as he can, as the recent ep's arent anywhere as good as the 1st ep and the 2 albums.

Maybe he just needs some quality control.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

New Final out next month and Godflesh reissues.

Doran, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I think he may have been concentrating on Final lately

x-post

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

disagree abt broadyrick quality control he's totally acing that clutching kitten while passively masturbating vibe plus KILLS alcest at making MBV sound like Venom

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

The Jesu got 6 votes. One #6, one #23 (from me), the other four squarely mid-ballot.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

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Moonspell - Night Eternal (SPV/Steamhammer) 81 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I have nothing interesting to say about the above. I'll leave the stats stuff to glenn

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked the Jesu, but most of it was on the split with Eluvium which made my 2007 list. Most shoegazer stuff he's done is on there (“Blind and Faithless"). Thought the remixes were crap.

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 20 January 2009 23:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Hope he releases some heavier stuff next time. I think he's taken the shoegaze as far as he can.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:13 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll post the next one once Glenn has done his stats stuff. (thanks again glenn for doing this)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked the Moonspell album a lot. I think since Sentenced disbanded, Moonspell have been the kings of that kind of gothic/death metal. As with Jesu, 6 votes: one high, one low, four in the middle.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

To recap the stats for #s 50-31 (Rank - Points - Votes - Artist - Album):

48 - 50 - 4 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
47 - 52 - 5 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
45 - 54 - 4 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
43 - 55 - 4 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
42 - 59 - 4 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
41 - 60 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm
40 - 61 - 4 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
39 - 62 - 5 - Darkspace - III
38 - 63 - 6 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
37 - 66 - 5 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
36 - 68 - 6 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
35 - 70 - 5 - Witch - Paralyzed
34 - 71 - 3 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
33 - 72 - 6 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
32 - 78 - 6 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
31 - 81 - 6 - Moonspell - Night Eternal

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 01:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks Glenn!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link

30
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The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror (Profoundlore) 83 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 06:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I forgot to mention when posting the Blood Ceremony album that it got 1 number 1 vote.
Glenn what other albums got a no1 vote that were outside the top 50?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 07:31 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^that was by me I believe

Pescetarian Reich (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 08:04 (fifteen years ago) link

29 (tied)
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Earthless - Live at Roadburn (Tee Pee) 88 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

29 (Tied)
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UFOmammut - Idolum (Supernatural Cat) 88 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Here are the albums outside the top 49 that got a #1 vote (Rank - Points - Votes - Artist - Album):

50 - 48 - 3 - Zebulon Pike - Intransience
63 - 39 - 3 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
74 - 33 - 2 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade
76 - 32 - 2 - Equilibrium - Sagas
78 - 31 - 2 - Pyramids - Pyramids
89 - 27 - 2 - In This Moment - The Dream
91 - 25 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur
91 - 25 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart

In This Moment was mine.
91 - 25 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Disfear at no42 got a no1 vote I think

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 14:43 (fifteen years ago) link

it did.

i just had a feeling that would be the disc i listened to the most over the next five years. which isn't the only criteria, just the only argument one way or the other for the three or four picks that could have been my number one.

mte, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I totally would have voted for Sex Vid had I heard it before voting ended. Oh well.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

That will teach you to not keep up with the rolling metal thread. Bear that in mind for 2009!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Sex Vid's not even metal though!

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:45 (fifteen years ago) link

dont you start!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

48 - 50 - 4 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled

wha... why?

HELPING CHILDREN THROUGH RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

or you! ;)

Did you vote btw?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

I like that Gates of Slumber album - real metal cover included.
And the Ascend cd, that I bought under Pfunk Boy instigation, is excellent.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

xp: i didn't vote, sorry. just didn't really hear enough to feel like it was worth bothering. might've moved blood ceremony up another fraction of a point, i guess...

HELPING CHILDREN THROUGH RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Marco,I am glad you enjoyed it. I really do think it's the best thing Greg has done in a while(and I do like recent sunn 0))) stuff)
The Gates Of Slumber album is really good too.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 17:51 (fifteen years ago) link

The next 2 albums are tied. I will post one now and keep the suspense going on the other until I've finished my dinner.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

27 (tied)
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Wetnurse - Invisible City (Seventh Rule Recordings) 89 points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Great, great album, which I would never have heard if J0hn hadn't been hyping it incessantly in Rolling Metal 2008.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:13 (fifteen years ago) link

27 (Tied)
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Moss - Sub Templum (Rise Above) 89 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought the Moss album was a good step up from Cthonic Rites. I think Olly said elsewhere there was new material coming soon. I'm looking forward to that immensely. No doubt it will be crushing doom as ever and for that I say Huzzah!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I was DJing at a best of 2008 night a couple of weeks ago and I played 'Stigma' by UFOmammut and it literally made someone shit their pants on the dancefloor.

Doran, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Sure that wasn't the Guinness?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 18:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Well it was the first Saturday after NYE, so perhaps there were a few loose stomachs in the joint.

As luck would have it one or two regular ILX posters were there and can back me up.

It was horrible really.

Doran, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Was it one of them?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

It was horrible really.

― Doran

would expect so

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

25
The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia (Sub Pop) 98 Points (1 Number One Vote.)

Having spent nearly a year dissecting Saturnalia, I'm ready to declare this the best album either Dulli or Lanegan has been involved with since the Afghan Whigs' swan song in 1998. It's not "metal" by a long shot (many albums on this list are not "metal" in a strict sense, mind) – it is, however, dark, aggressive, haunting and intense in equal measure. The album kicks off with a rock solid 1-2-3 punch, then unravels into a brooding, downtrodden set of gothic-folk tunes with Lanegan nearly stealing the show before Dulli picks up the pace by album's end. These two musicians have shared career parallels and a personal friendship over the past 15 years, and I'm amazed they took so long to record an album together… but my Lord, was it ever worth the wait. All said, it's a solid, memorable set of tunes from two musicians who have continually raised the bar for themselves since the Whigs and Trees were put out to pasture. ---- ilxor

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 19:59 (fifteen years ago) link

24
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Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser (Important Records) 100 Points

Kicks the shit out of all the indie I listened to in 2008. I Am reborn! I am REFORMED! ---- ilxor

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

23
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Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God (Metal Blade) 109 Points (1 Number One Vote)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

A shock result in my eyes.
Surprisingly low placed, I thought this would be a contender for No 1 and a certain top 5 place. But again some of the albums advocates on the rolling metal thread didn't vote. So that's what happens.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 22:03 (fifteen years ago) link

No one else surprised?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link

as we approach the top 20... to compare and contrast with Terrorizer top 20 albums of 2008

01. ENSLAVED - Vertebrae (Indie Recordings)
02. CYNIC - Traced In Air (Season Of Mist)
03. NACHTMYSTIUM - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1 (Candlelight)
04. GOJIRA - The Way Of All Flesh (Listenable)
05. TORCHE - Meanderthal (Hydra Head)
06. MESHUGGAH - ObZen (Nuclear Blast)
07. OPETH - Watershed (Roadrunner)
08. METALLICA - Death Magnetic (Warner)
09. BLOODBATH - The Fathomless Mastery (Peaceville)
10. ESOTERIC - The Maniacal Vale (Season Of Mist)
11. EARTH - The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull (Southern Lord)
12. AC/DC - Black Ice (Sony)
13. ASVA - What You Don't Know Is Frontier (Southern Lord)
14. HAIL OF BULLETS - ...Of Frost And War (Metal Blade)
15. SEPTICFLESH - Communion (Season Of Mist)
16. DARKTHRONE - Dark Thrones And Black Flags (Peaceville)
17. LEVIATHAN - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life (Moribund)
18. GRAND MAGUS - Iron Will (Rise Above)
19. HARVEY MILK - Life... The Best Game In Town (Hydra Head)
20. SATYRICON - The Age Of Nero (Roadrunner)

djmartian, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

22
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Coffins - Buried Death (20 Buck Spin) 111 Points

I shall post no 21 in about 30 mins after i have a cuppa tea.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link

dj martian some of those albums are still to come. But not telling you who or what position any of them are in. Will not spoil the tension!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Not that surprised - I liked the Amon Amarth, but didn't get caught by it. I wouldn't have even heard it if it wasn't talked about so enthusiastically by some posters, as it is not my usual cup of tea.

Glad to see Ocean do so well.

-bunch of x-posts

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 21 January 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link

21
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Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday (Temporary Residence) 118 Points (2 Number One Votes)

and now over to Glenn for some stats...

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 21 January 2009 23:17 (fifteen years ago) link

It was I who picked Hammers of Misfortune for #1. I've never heard anything by them prior to these albums, but they just fulfill this love I have for 70s rock bands with long songs with lots of great passages (I like to refer to them as Songs with Parts), that are like epic journeys. Songs by bands like Rush, Boston, Kansas, and Yes. But the weird thing is that I am not a big fan of any of those bands other than one or two songs each, and HoM doesn't really sound like any one of them in particular. Anyway, I surprised myself by voting for them. All year I figured I'd be telling everyone that Nachtmystium did the best metal album of the year. :)

fwiw (rockapads), Thursday, 22 January 2009 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Songs by bands like Rush, Boston, Kansas, and Yes. But the weird thing is that I am not a big fan of any of those bands other than one or two songs each

heh neither am I, but i dig the Hammers Of Misfortune album.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's the stats recap of 50-21 (Rank - Points - Total Votes - #1 Votes - Artist - Album):

50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intransience
48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm
40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 22 January 2009 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

And I'll start the top 20 countdown.........

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Tomorrow (Later today UK time)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday (Important Records) 118 Points (2 Number One Votes)

I think this was on Temporary Residence, if I recall correctly.

The year's other Grails album (sadly not nominated) was on Important.

ilxor, Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahh yes. You are right. Not only do I own it and all the other Grails albums, I voted for it too. It just said on the site i checked that it was on Important. Oh well, if john justen sees this maybe he will change it if he has the time.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

fixed

Barackman Hussein Overdrive (John Justen), Thursday, 22 January 2009 04:06 (fifteen years ago) link

And now we enter the top twenty..

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

20
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Sunn 0))) - Domkirke (Southern Lord} 123 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm embarrassed to admit that I haven't heard Domkirke yet. Will remedy this today.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 22 January 2009 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

the top 20 has kicked off in fine style

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 22 January 2009 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Domkirke = great.
Must check that Moss album. The Masonic Temple-like cover looks promising.

Marco Damiani, Thursday, 22 January 2009 14:26 (fifteen years ago) link

I had to start this countdown the week P&J was announced eh?
CURSES

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

19
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Cynic - Traced in Air (Season of Mist) 126 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:40 (fifteen years ago) link

2 for 2 in the top 20 so far that I've still yet to hear.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Me too!

Not a Sunn fan, but I'll try to hear the Cynic.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 22 January 2009 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

The Sunn 0))) is terrific.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked Sunn live, but all of their albums have bored the piss out of me. What about this one will make me think otherwise?

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

there's not much you'll like about this one if you didn't like anything previously, i'd say. i'm a bit the reverse. love the records (particularly 'black one'), and was a little bit underwhelmed by the live show...

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I don't have a good enough, or loud enough, soundsystem to play records like the Sunn catalog. Live, the volume made their music truly visceral; on record, I can't quite replicate that "gut feeling."

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 22 January 2009 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Just did an interview with Paul Masvidal of Cynic for next week's OC Weekly. Thoughtful guy!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:23 (fifteen years ago) link

A large % of what SunnO))) do is tightly tied in with the live performance and the 'spiritual' concept of the group. I.e. they started as essentially a covers band - an Earth tribute group - which was then gradually developed into a devotional gesture towards some of the key aspects of heavy metal itself, hence the robes and the mock stern nodding and all the palaaver.

So you don't often get the sense of this on record but on this one, the fact that it's live from Bergen Cathedral and they get to bust loose on the church organ and Atilla does some weird hybrid Gregorian chant/Yat Kha throat singing (along with the awesome packaging).

And at the end of the day what does it say about the liberality of Norwegian society.

"Hey, we've got Atilla Csihar on the phone. Him and Gregg and Steven want to play live in the cathedral."
"Atilla from Mayhem? That weird Satanist/nihilist/whateverthefuck group that burned all those churches down a few miles away?"
"The very same padre."
"Well, I haven't got a problem if you haven't. But tell him he can't have the 24th - we've got the Prurient and Christian Death double header that night."

I still think that after seeing them live (which gives the albums an extra resonance) you can't beat the Boris collab 'Altar' but that's probably because it's almost song based and a lot more conventional in some ways.

Doran, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:36 (fifteen years ago) link

And as if by magik: SunnO))) have just announced live dates. I don't know how to put links in on here.

Doran, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Just copy/paste the link and it'll automatically convert to HTML.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 January 2009 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

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Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier (Southern Records) 126 Points (1 Number One vote)

Terrific album, a real step up from their last excellent album, recommend this thoroughly to any fan of Sunn 0))) . This could easily have been my no1 album and wasn't far away from being so. Check this out if you haven't already. Especially the vinyl version which has terrific packaging --- pfunkboy

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

My Asva blurb: if you stand at Sunn O))) and face towards Altar, your ass is pointing towards Asva.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

They're the butt of that joke.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

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Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life (Moribund Records)
128 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't heard Leviathan but that sleeve art is most momentous.

Doran, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the sleeve art alone makes this thread a must read. it wouldn't be nearly as interesting without the awesome cover art, that is.

Ioannis, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

the asva album is just glorious.

but I don't really associate what they do with what sunn o)))) do, really. there's a doomy element in there, certainly, but they have this vast, beautiful, elegant quality that's more in line with, say, eyvind kang or latter-day earth (which is a very different beast from the one that inspired sunn o)))'s crushing low-frequency abuse).

m the g, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:09 (fifteen years ago) link

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Krallice - Krallice (Profound Lore) 137 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

another gem...

m the g, Thursday, 22 January 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

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Caïna - Temporary Antennae (Profound Lore) 140 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Good placing for Krallice! I don't recall much chat on rolling metal 08 (which I think I read most of even if I didn't post a great deal)

I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 22 January 2009 20:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone wish to help out with blurbs for the top 10 albums?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Good placing for Krallice! I don't recall much chat on rolling metal 08

Yeah, there was a good amount of Krallice talk scattered around.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 22 January 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

There was? Well that's good too!

I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 22 January 2009 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link

There was enough Krallice talk that I redownloaded the album after having given up on it the first time. But I didn't like it any better the second time, either. I just kept wanting it to sound more like Leviathan, and eventually I remembered I could spent the time listening to Leviathan more, instead.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

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Melvins - Nude With Boots (Ipecac) 141 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

A bit of a shock coming up at No 13. One of the (so i thought) front runners for no1 didn't do as well as expected. It's fans on the rolling metal thread failed to turn up I suppose.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

But lets build some suspense :)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I have a feeling I know what it is, but guessing now might make me a meanderthal neanderthal.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

You like to wager on that?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Hmm, not now that you've worded it like that.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

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Enslaved - Vertebrae (Indie Recordings) 145 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Didn't get any No1 votes rather surprisingly.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

That was actually my next guess after Torche!

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

There's a bit of a shock low entry at no12 actually..

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Would you like to guess/wager?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

It has really bad cover art..

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:03 (fifteen years ago) link

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Meshuggah - obZen (Nuclear Blast Records) 155 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone got any comments on todays countdown so far? Any surprise inclusions?
I shall post no 11 later before I go to bed

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Curious: Do people actually think the Meshuggah (and Opeth) albums are standout albums for those bands or do you just see them as solid releases from great bands?

Sundar, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:46 (fifteen years ago) link

After revisiting Vikingligr Veldi this week, Vertebrae sounds even more useless. I had almost forgotten just how incredible they used to be.

At least it's paying their kids school fees.

Siegbran, Thursday, 22 January 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Sundar: I think opinion is split on the Meshuggah. Some think its the best they've done and some don't as far as i can tell. No idea whatsoever on the Opeth, but I'd be surprised if people think it's their best. However they might still think it's better than any other metal album in 2008.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

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The Goslings - Occasion (Not Not Fun) 158 Points (1 Number One Vote)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

And to recap our countdown so far (Rank - Points - Votes - #1 Votes - Artist - Album):

50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intransience
48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm
40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air
18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice
15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen
11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion

Tomorrow, the thrilling conclusion! And then a bunch of statistics that dwarf these in their sublime geekiness!

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

outside of I, obzen is probably my favourite meshuggah album to date. it's a perfect distillation of their sound - so focused and lean and sharp. I know it's got a bit of stick from the hardcore for being a bit simpler than their older stuff, but that criticism seems largely to be based on 'combustion' rather than the album as a whole (which does get pretty damn tricksy).

even so, 'combustion' is an incredible track. by no means the most wilfully difficult in their catalogue, but a totally storming, brutal metal tune that's still characteristically meshuggah.

all of the above surprises me somewhat, as I'm usually a proponent of 'the more insanely complex, the better'. but for me, they just nailed it on this one.

oh, and I agree. the artwork is crap.

m the g, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

not too into opeth... as for meshuggah, they're one of my favorite bands but that's a little tricky for me to answer.

the way I see it, everything that they've done post-destroy erase improve has been a gradual refinement of one kind of sound: rhythmic, down-tuned breakdowns in wacky time signatures with (almost) melodic, (almost) ambient guitar leads and a couple other elements re-jiggered throughout the course of an album.

all of their albums of the last few years strike me as samey but I don't mean this in a negative way. pretty sure I've posted this on another thread, but I listen to this band the way I would listen to autechre or basic channel records. the head-nodding repetition is a big draw for me.

but because of this, I have a hard time identifying a real standout. could be chaosphere, could be the i ep, could be obzen. I like them all, really.

original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't been able to get into "combustion," actually. it's just... not what I want from them. I usually skip it. :-/

original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I would be interested in stats comparing this polls votes and Pazz & Jop. How many made both and how the high placed votes in one poll did in the other. And anything else Glenn can come up with :)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I've asked my P&J elves to confer with my ILM Metal elves. We'll see what they come up with. After the food fight subsides...

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 00:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Are your ILM Metal Elves called Dio's? ;)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 01:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok I shall start the top 10 countdown...

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 02:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Tomorrow (Friday)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 02:22 (fifteen years ago) link

i think obzen perhaps sounds better than any other meshuggah record. song-wise it's pretty strong as well, but perhaps not quite leveling up to the likes of chaosphere and DEI

Charlie Howard, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

watershed, on the other hand, is far from being opeth's best release. i still really like it, but tend to appreciate it from a distance rather than play it constantly. it really does stand alone as one of the more unique things they've put out and has some of the most vital riffs of the band's career.

Charlie Howard, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Surprised, but very glad to see that much Goslings record! Played that last night and still love it.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:55 (fifteen years ago) link

much love for the Goslings record

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

wow i had no idea the goslings rec would place so high--i'll definitely check it out

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm very pleased that they did. A pleasant surprise.
I'm fairly pleased with the top 10 too. Not everyone will agree with it but who ever does in polls?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 04:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll start posting the top 10 from around 2pm (ish) UK Time. So that some of the american ilxors can make comments as they go up. Probably post 1 per hour approx. Then Glenn will do his stuff.
I'm looking forward to him matching and comparing to the P&J poll.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 04:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Of the 10 albums still to be revealed, only one failed to get a single Pazz & Jop vote, and only one managed to get more votes from 577 P&J voters than from 30 ILM Metal Poll voters.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 05:26 (fifteen years ago) link

next?

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:17 (fifteen years ago) link

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Gojira - The Way of All Flesh (Listenable Records) 163 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

wow, awesome cover! worth hearing?

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago) link

As I'll explain after we finish the countdown, I have scientifically determined a ranking of the Truest Metal Albums, which is obviously different from the Best Metal Albums. The top 5 Truest Metal Albums are all records that have already appeared lower on the countdown. Gojira's The Way of All Flesh is the 9th Truest Metal Album.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i think i'd prefer a list of the Falsest Metal Albums of the year. maybe.

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:40 (fifteen years ago) link

honest question, fwiw: as someone who really dug the last Mastodon album, liked the latest by Opeth, and pretty much can't abide by Neanderthal for more than five minutes at a time, what should i be checking out here?

signed too lazy to read the rolling metal thread

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Avoid Chinese Democracy, even if clearly some ilxors do like it . Never trust an ilxor!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 14:53 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man, i can't stand listening to Axl's latest temper tantrum. and, on a somewhat related note, James' constant whining on Death Magnetic is possibly even worse. (grow up already, fellas! you can't act like spoiled fifteen-year-olds forever!)

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe check out some of the proggier stuff? like the intronaut, enslaved, and cynic records?

fwiw, the intronaut is the only one of those three I'd rate. I prefer the first cynic record and some earlier enslaved stuff.

original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i think i'd probably be more into some of the proggier stuff on here. where's LJ when you need 'im?

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:09 (fifteen years ago) link

actually, you might be into the blood ceremony album. that's a good one.

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http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=54091737

original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

the influences on there give a pretty good idea of where they're coming from (black sabbath, jethro tull, pentagram, etc.) but the flute and female vox are just enough so that they stand out from the crowd.

did I vote for this one? if I didn't, I should have.

original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

too much Tull, not enough Sabbath for my tastes.

(i believe i may just be waiting for Blood Mountain II or something.)

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:20 (fifteen years ago) link

hah. well, then you're in luck. new mastodon is out pretty soon.

original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

And isn't Blood Mountain 2 (though apparently is proggier but better)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:24 (fifteen years ago) link

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Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner (The End Records) 155 Points (2 Number One Votes)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

"And isn't Blood Mountain 2 (though apparently is proggier but better)"

Lets hope so.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I liked Blood Mountain.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

better is always good.

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Blood Mountain is a good album, maybe my expectations were just insanely high.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't much like blood mountain myself.

as for the new one... maybe it's because I'm living in obama's america, but I'm hopeful.

original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

see, i had no expectations for it, and was consequently floored.

xp

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Made Out of Babies and Blood Ceremony tied on Trueness. Or if you prefer Falseness, they tied on that, too.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I kind of liked Blood Ceremony: it evokes a lot of things I like, its a shame the songs aren't that exciting.

Marco Damiani, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd probably recommend Grails to Ioannis, Sabbathy-prog.

straight outta Easter Compton (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I think according to Glenn's True Metal barometer I pray to the gods of False Metal, which is unsurprising. Made Out Of Babies was my #1.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

I was listening to Grails' Sabbath cover last night. I want to say it was great but I can't even remember what they covered. I'll say Sweet Leaf then go look it up

I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Nope it was 'Black Sabbath'! Eh.

I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah check the Grails album, it's not heavy or metal but is really really really good.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

A bit of a shock (but excellent) entry coming up next at no8. Glenn has some surprising info about it and the P&J poll IIRC

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 15:57 (fifteen years ago) link

no sign of Chinese Democracy yet? Could it be in for a strong placing?! o_0

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Not mentioned yet. But i wont be saying what is or isnt coming (and noone else please either) so we can keep suspense going!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

like i said earlier tho I never understood the ilm love for chinese democracy or death magnetic

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:02 (fifteen years ago) link

or why they got in best album lists in magazines this year so high

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:03 (fifteen years ago) link

infact i was even more underwhelmed by the Guns N Roses than the Metallica (at least it was better than their last)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:05 (fifteen years ago) link

hey, cool, i like the Grails tracks on micepace so far.

xp

no. 8...

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

...will be along shortly.... Feel the suspense!!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:09 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll give you a clue, it's not time for chinese democracy :)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

It is a rather great album though that I would recommend you. But you will have to wait a few more mins to see what it is/

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:10 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll post it sooner though if someone tells me why people like Death Magnetic and Chinese Democracy.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:12 (fifteen years ago) link

'cause they got tons of press?

i think i know what's coming up, btw. thank ya, whiney.

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd hope people don't like albums just because they get tons of press.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

I think people like them because, despite how not "great" they are, there are enough songs that flash back to each band's former greatness. I like the Metallica way, way better than GnR, but I can see the appeal of both.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

well, it just makes it that much harder to avoid them (assuming you're at all interested in the first place, of course).

xp

right-o.

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:19 (fifteen years ago) link

You're getting impatient!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

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5ive - Hesperus (Hydra Head) 179 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:23 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ What an unfortunate name for a band.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:24 (fifteen years ago) link

huh. nice title.

xp

hah

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:25 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.stargate.no/main/images/5ive-album.jpg

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

curses.

http://www.stargate.no/main/images/5ive-album.jpg

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Hilarious...

Just for that I will delay posting no 7

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i have to confess, most of the voting in this poll is completely bizarre to me. i like that 5ive album but wow that's a high rating.

lemon dropsy (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I don't know who all voted. I know I didn't, though. (Not out of disrespect for the effort or anything, I just forgot until it was too late.)

unperson, Friday, 23 January 2009 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I think maybe my poll about them last year raised their profile enough for people to check them out.
ILX does have a spacerock division though, but it's not like people only voted 5ive on its own or just with other spacerock type stuff. It obviously must have got votes across the board to place so high.
Glenn can tell you how many votes it got along with other stats and the P&J stuff mentioned earlier.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

5ive (12 votes, no #1s) is the highest-ranking album in this poll that didn't even get mentined in P&J.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Shame on Pazz & Jop!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:12 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm listening to them now, actually. great stuff! no vocals?

more

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

You should check out their other albums.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:19 (fifteen years ago) link

check out this dude's review on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hesperus-5ive/dp/B0011F18CW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1232731539&sr=8-1

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Some more shock high placings to come

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:29 (fifteen years ago) link

and the no7 album was my no1 album.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago) link

7
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Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale (Season of Mist) 183 Points (2 Number One Votes)

What an album! a double cd of the best crushing psychedelic doom/death you are ever likely to hear. Always a favourite band of mine but they REALLY raised the barrier on this. Not only their best album, but album of the year for me. A high point for UK Doom/Metal and quite possibly an album people will be discovering and being blown away by for years to come. If you need to hear one track to be convinced by, check out Circle.
Now all we need is the 10LP box set of their entire output as has been promised for a few years now. ILM, check out Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale NOW! ---- pfunkboy

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

You suck, gr80

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 23 January 2009 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Hi Grady!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 17:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Esoteric got 10 votes from us, but only 1 in P&J. From this amusingly varied ballot: http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/685977

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone else got anything to say about the Esoteric album?
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I'm glad someone else knew about it. A criminally underrated band. It's a shame Kerrang ignores some great bands on it's own doorstep.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 18:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Estoeric was another one I downloaded twice, thinking I'd missed something the first time because people kept raving about it. Nope, still did nothing for me. It's not a bad exercise, though. I think I did that with 6 bands this year, and although didn't warm to Esoteric, Krallice or Origin, the second time was what I needed for Evoken and Wetnurse and Septicflesh. Yay, both directly and indirectly, for Rolling Metal!

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I like their first two double-disc sets, but have never made it all the way through anything they've done since. I think it's me, though - they haven't changed much over the years, just gotten better at their basic sound, but I no longer have the time or patience for epic doom.

unperson, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i like the psyche/gloom aspect of this ("Circle") a lot; not too sure about the gargling at death's doorstep bit just yet, tho.

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I like that esoteric album but it hasn't quite grabbed me yet. I need to give it some more time.

right now metamorphogenesis is still my fave. hearing that and corrupted's llenandose a couple years ago had a pretty big impact on my musical taste... maybe for the worse. ;-)

and maybe they haven't changed all that much over the years... but there aren't really any other bands I know that hit that same psych/doom sweet spot, so I'm somewhat grateful for that. the best of their catalog also is the best of that style, imo.

original bgm, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Esoteric was another one I downloaded twice, thinking I'd missed something the first time because people kept raving about it. Nope, still did nothing for me. It's not a bad exercise, though. I think I did that with 6 bands this year, and although didn't warm to Esoteric, Krallice or Origin, the second time was what I needed for Evoken and Wetnurse and Septicflesh. Yay, both directly and indirectly, for Rolling Metal!

It could just hit you one day in the future. That's happened to me many times over the years, not getting it initially then loads of plays later, something just clicks.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 18:16 (fifteen years ago) link

i like the psyche/gloom aspect of this ("Circle") a lot; not too sure about the gargling at death's doorstep bit just yet, tho.

I think vocals do put a lot of people off metal. But the growling stuff you do get used to if it suits the music.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Bands like Khanate would have been silly with clean vocals. It just wouldn't work. I do tend to hate most cookie monster vocals in death metal though. It's not a genre I could ever get into really.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 18:33 (fifteen years ago) link

I no longer have the time or patience for epic doom.

Same here. Esoteric's fine, but nothing I'd ever want to revisit.

A. Begrand, Friday, 23 January 2009 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

6
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Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1 (Century Media) 203 Points (1 Number One Vote)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

11 voters here, 11 in P&J. I don't have anything else to say about this one.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:17 (fifteen years ago) link

It's great.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:30 (fifteen years ago) link

11 ilxors voted for it, some must have something to say about it!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Apart from it's an awesome piece of psychedelic influenced black metal.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Question: how well did the Dragonforce album do on metal magazines 2008 end of year lists?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

This is the one I dutifully listened to four or five times and . . meh. Is this it?

Soukesian, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Nachtmystium or Dragonforce?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

The Nachtmystium left me cold as well.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Well I have to say I really love the Nachtmystium, music is great, and unusually for a black metal band, I love the vocals. I dig it.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 19:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Yep, Nachtmystium. I know they're the legends of USBM and all, and it's not a bad album, as such, but it didn't seem near as adventurous as it was written up to be.

Actually, it was the hearty spamalot vocals that kind of killed it for me.

Soukesian, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

the hearty spamalot vocals

Amazing. I might have to rip this off.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2009 19:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Ned Raggett's Spam-a-lot Pi

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"We're knights of the round circle..."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"the knights who say Pi"

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway a clue for album no 5?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:05 (fifteen years ago) link

It's NOT Dragonforce OR Guns N Roses it's....

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:06 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.fraterslibertas.com/Images/Separated/pythonits.jpg

EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Bonnie Prince Billy wasn't nominated

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, the Python references and the "it's..." made me think of that.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:11 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah I know

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

5
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Opeth – Watershed (Roadrunner) 212 Points (1 Number One Album)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Interesting - lots of people (me included) liked it but only one person loved it.

EZ Snappin, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

how many voted for it?

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I continue to be of the opinion that Opeth just keeps getting better. The current incarnation of the band is really starting to gel, the keyboards playing a bigger role, Axenrot proving the naysayers wrong, and Akerfeldt's singing voice stronger than ever. Although I will admit that "Porcelain Heart" is the most ordinary Opeth song since the Deliverance album...

A. Begrand, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Opeth: 13 voters here, 9 in P&J. None of those from me.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

seems strange that it didn't do better P&J wise. did pitchfork diss it or something?

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:28 (fifteen years ago) link

dis, even.

Ioannis, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link

It got mild praise from P-Fork, a polite 7.5.

A. Begrand, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Corny Pop Fuxors clearly didn't vote for it as their token metal album?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Watershed is a very slight step back from the heights of Ghost Reveries. It just doesn't feel quite as thrilling, despite treading very much in similar waters. Still a fantastic album though.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:36 (fifteen years ago) link

A band I just never got into. Best place to start?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I only got into them around the release of Ghost Reveries, then started working backwards through the catalog. I'd recommend starting with Damnation and Deliverance, two albums that really show off the bands talents and hint at the directions they'd head with the later albums. That's just me, I'll let the more long-time Opeth fans toss in their two cents.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Blackwater Park, Still Life, and My Arms, Your Hearse are good starting-off points, but you can't go wrong with any of their albums, really. Damnation is particularly great if you prefer the clean singing only.

A. Begrand, Friday, 23 January 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Watershed was my number one album, but I don't remember. I agree that it's slightly distancing, but man, what a record. I think what did it for me is that it sounds like, for lack of a better word, "Art" to me, but it's something I can actually listen to as opposed to appreciate (unlike Philip Glass or something).

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

>I think Watershed is a very slight step back from the heights of Ghost Reveries. It just doesn't feel quite as thrilling, despite treading very much in similar waters.

I couldn't disagree more. I think Watershed is not only a huge improvement over Ghost Reveries (which I thought was basically a culmination of the sound they'd pursued on Blackwater Park and Deliverance, and kind of a place-holder at the same time), but it's also a major left turn - acoustic stuff, female duet vocals, jazz-funk breakdowns...I love this album. I think it's Opeth's best record, and exactly the record they needed to make in 2008. And I'm not just saying all that because Roadrunner flew me to Sweden to hear it, I swear.

unperson, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:04 (fifteen years ago) link

As I said in my review: "After rocking out with the crushingly heavy Deep Purple-meets-death prog of Ghost Reveries, they've gone with what can only be described as a natural progression in a totally unexpected direction."

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

hmmm

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone want to know what no4 is?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:15 (fifteen years ago) link

give us a clue

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I have worked out the top 4, but will be offline for the rest of the night. So I will guess the order is B, T, E and HM.

straight outta Easter Compton (aldo), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

And there you go. I guess I'm just holding Ghost Reveries in high regard because it was my entry point and the Opeth album I've lived with the longest.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:20 (fifteen years ago) link

harvey milk? earth? torche? bloodbath?

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Bragonforce?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Buns N Roses?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Am I the only one that voted for Dragonforce?

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, don't get me wrong, Ghost Reveries is freaking awesome. Watershed is just freaking awesome in a different way.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I cannot say. I'm not giving anything away or giving clues to what is up next anymore. People like suspense and not being told what might be next.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:30 (fifteen years ago) link

pfunkboy your like a rock chick tease

http://www.scotweb.co.uk/club_images/largeitems/sr_hotch_bra_pants_suspenders.jpg

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Final four: She & Him, Vampire Weekend, Fleet Foxes and, of course, U2.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

this isn't spin

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:33 (fifteen years ago) link

That isn't a rawk chick

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

the question is, will Torche or Harvey Milk take the coveted #1 spot?

fwiw (rockapads), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted for DragonForce, too.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

well i couldn't find roxymuzak in suspenders on the interweb

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

The question is, are you over or underestimating any albums?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

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Boris - Smile (Diwphalanx Records/Southern Lord) 227 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

ahhhh i just want to see #1 before 5:00 when i leave the computer!

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

oh wow.

this was the first boris album that did nothing for me.

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

what time is it for you just now?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, definitely my least favorite Boris album so far. But the Japanese version is quite a bit better than the Southern Lord one.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

4:40

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

and yeah i gotta listen to the japanese one; tho i think their two versions thing is some bullllshit

THE HIPSTER DILEMMA (call all destroyer), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

It's a good enough Boris album (esp the diwphalanx version) but Smile and Pink really pale into insignificance compared to a lot of their older stuff. I almost voted for it but gave Coffins my last vote instead.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/
eastern time zone ... New York Fri 4:41 PM

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

oh i wont be posting no 3 til about 10.30- and it's 9.41 just now. no 2 and no1 will be after 11. Gotta spin it out, sorry.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

so this is like foreplay not premature eJOCKulation

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Boris: 16 votes here (but no #1s), 6 in P&J. I'm still puzzled that the Japanese version sounds more Southern Lordish to me than the Southern Lord version.

#s 2 and 3 were tied in votes, but 2 beats 3 on both points and #1 votes. #1 has the most votes and the most points, but not the most #1 votes.

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

dj custosian
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Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i have yet to hear the US version of Smile, which is probably why i voted for it. either that or the boring Nadja album was my lowest vote I think.

fwiw (rockapads), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

reminder of decibel magazine top 40
http://decibelmagazine.com/Content.aspx?ncid=140019

djmartian, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll be offline while Pfunk is posting the last 3, but I'll be back with lots of stats later in the (Boston) evening...

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm still puzzled that the Japanese version sounds more Southern Lordish to me than the Southern Lord version.

This is exactly right.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Friday, 23 January 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm still pissed off I didn't get a chance to buy the Diwphalanx vinyl

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I could just post no3 now while everyone's disappeared for 30 mins thinking I wont post it.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago) link

ok just poking my head in here for god knows what reason and WAHT

well i couldn't find roxymuzak in suspenders on the interweb

admittedly this is the only post i read

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:12 (fifteen years ago) link

and yeah i gotta listen to the japanese one; tho i think their two versions thing is some bullllshit

Yeah, I'm pretty sick of Boris's act. Choose a mix and stick with it, instead of taking advantage the vinyl obsessiveness of SL fans.

The Japanese mix is cool in a Velvet Underground Guitar Amp Tape imitation kind of way, but I actually prefer the more straightforward sound of the US version. Smile grew on me quite a bit over the course of 08.

A. Begrand, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

you are disappointed DJ Martian doesn't have such a photo?
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Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Time for no 3?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link

or will we wait for Glenn?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 22:41 (fifteen years ago) link

3w
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Earth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull (Southern Lord) 276 Points

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 22:53 (fifteen years ago) link

19 people voted for it. No number one votes.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

love that band love that cover A++++

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:54 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't accept Earth as metal, but it's a great album for sure.

fwiw (rockapads), Friday, 23 January 2009 22:55 (fifteen years ago) link

I've never really cared for metal before but some of these covers look too cool not to check out. I knew I shouldn't click on here, I was trying to cut back on what I need to listen to.

a hoy hoy, Friday, 23 January 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Most people seem to think the list isn't metal so don't worry about it a hoy hoy,. Check away and enjoy! That was the whole point of me doing this poll.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:00 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah for metal dilettantes like myself this is a godsend, thanks for the hard work!

ryan, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:04 (fifteen years ago) link

i would have voted vertebrae no 1 tbh but i was discouraged from voting

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

lol. because i asked you to vote?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

you told me i couldnt vote for only 2 albums

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

im no metalhead (though i somehow like to read metalthreads) but bought two cd's that fall into the category. i think they're the 1 & 2 here.. :)

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

i said i didnt want to encourage that incase people did it to skew the vote (ie guns n roses fans ). there was 268 albums nominated, surely you could have done more than 2.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll give you a clue to the shock at no2. It's neither Guns N Roses OR Dragonforce.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Re voting: I didn't vote either, because I honestly hadn't heard enough of the nominations. Metal lightweight. Still, nice to see both of my nominations got decent placings.

Soukesian, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

yes i said i was discouraged from voting thank you

*turns on heel and opens umbrella*

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Well you know I thought you were just winding me up about bimble's drunken ballot of 2, but he said he would resend it with more, and he did.
btw he didn't vote for any goth-metal.
SO BIMBLE IS NOT MORE GOTH-METAL THAN ANY OF YOU

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok I shall post no 2 in 2 mins. Drum roll please!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:28 (fifteen years ago) link

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok I shall post no 2 in 2 mins. Drum roll please!

― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:28 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

a hoy hoy, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:33 (fifteen years ago) link

heh I decided to attempt a blurb for it
so here we go...

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

2
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Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town (Hydra Head) 357 Points (3 Number One Votes)

Awesome!! Almost on a par with their comeback album Special Wishes, Harvey Milk execute one of the finest comebacks ever by a legendary cult band. If you don't know the previous album or their probably even better 90s masterpieces, then go check them out now! --- pfunkboy

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:34 (fifteen years ago) link

yes! and death goes to the winner...

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I think I can guess what number one is.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Lets talk about this album, not what you think is no1. This album deserves discussion.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:36 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm sure there's nothing like this album in the rest of the metal top100, or is there?

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I would say no. but I don't know every album in the top 100. Only DJ Martian would know that!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:38 (fifteen years ago) link

after downloading, listening and loving the shit out of this album i went for special wishes but that didn't ring with me like this one did. there's a sense of spaciousness one life... that's lacking in special wishes. but maybe i need more time with that album.

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

i think the cover is so cute

roxymuzak, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

one = on

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll post the no1 at midnight. Give those Ameicans time to get home from work to see it then the stats

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Willem have you checked out Courtesy And Good Will Toward Men? that is their true masterpiece

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:41 (fifteen years ago) link

No I haven't. Will remedy. Thanks!

but first let me find a 20 minute drumroll...

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Or the ZZ Top influenced The Pleaser?

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:44 (fifteen years ago) link

The early albums were reissued by Relapse and then got the vinyl treatment too. Or you can find online if you want to check out 1st..

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:45 (fifteen years ago) link

So check em out

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Is Life... available on vinyl too? Would love that. I ordered the cd ages ago but am still waiting. This is my first encounter with HM, consider me ignorant. Thanks again for the recommendations.

willem, Friday, 23 January 2009 23:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Not yet, I'm still waiting on that. Hydra Head are always sloooooooooow. They are like Southern Lord and milk cd sales for all they can then bring out 10 different colour vinyls .

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Winner is obviously Cave's Hunt Like Devil.

the maximum value that ZS obtains given its constraint is 8 (Z S), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:53 (fifteen years ago) link

My bet is on Dragonforce.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i reckon the winner is 287 on rateyourmusic for 2008
http://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2008

djmartian, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

the top rated metal album on rateyourmusic NOT in the ilm top 100 is

Skepticism - Alloy

djmartian, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

at number 15

djmartian, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

A Runaway winner..

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

The Winner of ilxor.com's Metal Album Of The Year 2008 is...

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Torche - Meanderthal (Hydrahead (CD)/Robotic Empire(LP/Pic Disk) 457 Points (2 Number One Votes)

This should be no real surprise. From sublime power pop to space rock to stoner metal to a freaking Ian Gillan-era Black Sabbath tribute, Torche threw everything but the proverbial kitchen sink into Meanderthal (although I wouldn't bet against one of those being in there somewhere), and the miracle is that it works beautifully. Even though there's something to appeal to everyone, the album's wide reach never dilutes the band's consistent vision. Superb stuff, and it's only their second record! --- J3ff T

From the ashes of Sludge legends Floor came Torche. Steve Brooks called it "Stoner Pop" the 1st album was a masterpiece and this time they made it more wide ranging,heavier in places, without losing the "stoner pop". This band deserves to be huge.
I recommend buying the vinyl version of this as the packaging is amazing. On a par with Earth's vinyl "bible"? Sure! --- pfunkboy

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

The pic disk version
http://www.earshot.com/images/torchevinyl.jpg

Now lets talk about the awesome music

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

nah lets just talk about that awesome packaging cause O_O

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Do both!!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

order of how much i liked the top 5 albums

1. opeth (only one i voted for)
2. harvey milk
3. boris
4. earth
5. torche (not a big foo-fighters fan, sorry.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:17 (fifteen years ago) link

(not a big melvins fans either, which explains why i didn't vote for a couple of those other ones, maybe.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:18 (fifteen years ago) link

CHUCK ZING

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

foo fighters (apart from the 1st 2) suck and I've never thought Torche sounded like them at all.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

for the record / contrast...metal / heavy rock albums currently in the rateyourmusic top 100 of 2008 but NOT in the ilm top 100

25: Colour Haze - All
34: Coldworld - Melancholie²
39: In Mourning - Shrouded Divine
52: Misery Index - Traitors
53: Krisiun - Southern Storm
56: Ihsahn - angL
58: After the Burial - Rareform
64: Saint Deamon - In Shadows Lost From the Brave [apparently a power metal band]
75: Testament - The Formation of Damnation
80: Exodus - Let There Be Blood
88: The Monolith Deathcult - Trivmvirate
91: Dead Congregation - Graves of the Archangels
92: The Faceless - Planetary Duality
99: Pharaoh - Be Gone [apparently a power metal band]

djmartian, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry, I don't know why I did that. It seemed appropriate.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Testament probably would have been high in this poll if it had been nominated.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh man I have the colour haze vinyl and the packaging on that is amazing too. It's their best album in eons but it still didn't make my final list (i had a list of 30 that i had to cut and that was one)
But if you like Kyuss style stoner/psych made by krazy germans then check it out.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:23 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah jeff. I was surprised at their omission. Guns N Roses probably would've picked up votes too if it had been nominated, just due to the fact some struggled to make 25 and most people did hear it.
Dragonforce I expected to do a lot better. I can't even remember where that placed. I only have the 100-1 list that Glenn gave me here just now that I will post shortly. Glenn will be along later with the tally for all 191 albums that received a vote plus his other stuff he has planned.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

for the record...

top 10 metal / heavy rock studio albums on rateyourmusic for 2008

5: Opeth
Watershed

9: Burst
Lazarus Bird

10: Gojira
The Way of All Flesh

11: Cynic
Traced in Air

12: Amon Amarth
Twilight of the Thunder God

15: Skepticism
Alloy

16: Cult of Luna
Eternal Kingdom

25: Colour Haze
All

31: Enslaved
Vertebrae

32: Septic Flesh
Communion

djmartian, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd rep for the Skepticism. Cult Of Luna was good as well.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

have BW&BK released their albums of 2008 list?

djmartian, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't seen any mentions

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Thank you again to all who voted AND especially Musically & Glenn with without them I would not have been able to provide this.

Here are some stats Glenn gave me and he will be along shortly to give a full rundown of stats including how it compares to the Pazz & Jop poll results that also came out this week AND A LOT MORE.

Rank - Points - Voters - Artist - Album

97 - 23 - 1 - A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within
97 - 23 - 2 - Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine
97 - 23 - 1 - Everon - North
97 - 23 - 1 - Legless - Finding Mr. Perfect
97 - 23 - 1 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
97 - 23 - 3 - Trees - Lights Bane
94 - 24 - 1 - Burst - Lazarus Bird
94 - 24 - 1 - Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico
94 - 24 - 1 - The Lizards - archeology
91 - 25 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur
91 - 25 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart
91 - 25 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
89 - 27 - 3 - Graveyard - Graveyard
89 - 27 - 2 - In This Moment - The Dream
84 - 28 - 2 - Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight
84 - 28 - 2 - Aura Noir - Hades Rise
84 - 28 - 2 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
84 - 28 - 3 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
84 - 28 - 3 - Morkobot - Morto
82 - 29 - 3 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
82 - 29 - 2 - Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt
80 - 30 - 2 - Ayreon - 01011001
80 - 30 - 2 - Candlemass - Lucifer Rising
78 - 31 - 2 - Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss
78 - 31 - 2 - Pyramids - Pyramids
76 - 32 - 2 - Equilibrium - Sagas
76 - 32 - 4 - Tyr - Land
74 - 33 - 3 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
74 - 33 - 2 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade
70 - 34 - 2 - Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life
70 - 34 - 3 - Death Angel - Killing Season
70 - 34 - 3 - Ocrilim - Annwn
70 - 34 - 2 - Septicflesh - Communion
69 - 35 - 4 - Motorhead - Motorizer
68 - 36 - 2 - Girlschool - Legacy
67 - 37 - 2 - Sex/Vid - Communal Living
64 - 38 - 3 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
64 - 38 - 2 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
64 - 38 - 4 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
63 - 39 - 3 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
61 - 40 - 2 - Brave - Monuments
61 - 40 - 2 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
58 - 41 - 2 - Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie
58 - 41 - 2 - Conifer - Crown Fire
58 - 41 - 3 - Jarboe - Mahakali
56 - 42 - 3 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
56 - 42 - 2 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
54 - 44 - 4 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
54 - 44 - 3 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
53 - 46 - 4 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
52 - 47 - 5 - Eluveitie - Slania
50 - 48 - 3 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - Zebulon Pike - Intransience
48 - 50 - 4 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
47 - 52 - 4 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
45 - 54 - 4 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
43 - 55 - 4 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 5 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
42 - 59 - 4 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
41 - 60 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm
40 - 61 - 4 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
39 - 62 - 4 - Darkspace - III
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air
18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice
15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen
11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion
10 - 163 - 10 - 0 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
9 - 165 - 10 - 2 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
8 - 179 - 12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus
7 - 183 - 10 - 2 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
6 - 203 - 11 - 1 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
5 - 212 - 13 - 1 - Opeth - Watershed
4 - 227 - 16 - 0 - Boris - Smile
3 - 276 - 19 - 0 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
2 - 357 - 19 - 3 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
1 - 479 - 25 - 2 - Torche - Meanderthal

Rank - Points - Voters - Artist - Album

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

btw, two albums that finished here that i really wanted to like, but didn't: cynic and moonspell. people kept telling me what a great prog-rock album the cynic one is (i think Decibel called it the best prog album in years), but i just don't hear it. (that new album by diagonal sounds like WAY better prog to me; cynic was okay, but mostly bored me, as much as i kept trying to convince myself otherwise.) as for moonspell, i like moonspell, have for a really long time. or at least i used to -- sin/pecado just barely missed my pazz & jop ballot in 1997, and i'm a fan of irreligious and wolfheart, too. but with their last few albums i've been increasingly losing the plot, and the new one, to my ears, seems like a drastic leap into averageness. my loss, i guess.

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

torche doesn't remind me of foo fighters. but they do sometimes remind me of big country. which is, imo, a VERY GOOD THING. anyway, i didn't vote in this poll for the same reason as roxy, but i'm glad to see that my token metal album of the year is also the ilx metal album of the year...

(also, thanks for doing this -- gives me lots of stuff to check out.)

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:38 (fifteen years ago) link

i know, i know, i didn't vote in the ilx metal poll. sorry. maybe next year! i've been busy. and i forgot to vote in the pazz & jop! oops. anyway, for the record, here are my top 15 albums of the year:

Drautran - Throne of the Depths

Otesanek/Loss/Orthodox/Mournful Congregation - Four Burials

Execration - Syndicate of Lethargy

Septic Flesh - Communion

Brown Jenkins - Angel Eyes

Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt

Blood of the Black Owl - A Feral Spirit

Cold Northern Vengeance - Domination and Servitude

Caina - Temporary Antennae

Impiety - Dominator

Mourning Beloveth - A Disease For The Ages

Velnias - Sovereign Nocturnal

Animus Mortis - Atrabilis (Residues From Verb & Flesh)

Ars Diavoli - Nihilo Esse

Winterfylleth - The Ghost of Heritage

scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Well the whole point of the poll was to provide an end list of albums for everyone to check out. I am glad people are doing or planning to do exactly that.
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Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link

i still haven't heard the torche album. i'd like to hear it. i liked the harvey milk album a bunch, but not as much as special wishes. i worked a day at the record store pricing vinyl in exchange for the fancy version of the earth album on vinyl. and i hadn't even heard it! good thing i ended up liking it so much. the made out of babies album was probably my fave indie rock album of the year. very cool.

as far as torche go, i'm a way bigger fan of the band their drummer is in, mehkago n.t., but i still want to hear the new torche. and i still need a copy of the mehkago n.t. split single with religious as fuck too. too bad i'm so poor.

http://www.noidearecords.com/bands/releases/covers/religiousasfuck_mehkago.jpg

scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

i havent felt this nauseated since i first saw reek of putrefaction cover

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

i mean now i eat off it like a plate fwiw

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

but yeah that is a sick cover

roxymuzak, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:53 (fifteen years ago) link

I do hear a little Foos in the Torche, but mostly I find it's Jawbox and Helmet that keep popping up on Meanderthal.

people kept telling me what a great prog-rock album the cynic one is (i think Decibel called it the best prog album in years)

Ha, that was me. And I stand by that statement, too.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm with chuck on the cynic album. sounded old and moldy to me. like those dudes hadn't listened to any new techdeath in 15 years or more. i'd rather listen to just about any willowtip spazznoodle band than their new one.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I need to start a band called Willowtip Spazznoodle. Awesome.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

brain drill album poops all over the cynic.

http://hidefaudio.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/thumbphp.jpg

scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 00:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Two completely different albums, though. The Cynic is barely metal as it is.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

I find it's Jawbox and Helmet that keep popping up

Ha ha, no wonder I don't like it. (I wish I heard more Big Country in Torche. I'm all for bagpipes in metal. Or guitars that sound like bagpipes. That sound like Irish Spring commercials.)

xhuxk, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Hurray for some Scottness on this thread at last.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Good work kerr & co.

I don't listen to a lot of metal and didn't vote but I've spotted a few things in the list that have piqued my curiosity and I'll definitely check out some the bands in the coming weeks. Some great cover art (as well as a load that could have been on any Metal shelf in any record shop in the last 25 years).

I should pay more attention to the rolling thread(s).

onimo, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:06 (fifteen years ago) link

big thanks for doing all this, pfunk, musically, glenn, etc. it's been a fun ride.

there are a few albums I need to check out here - gojira, leviathan, caina, cynic, ascend and others. I've been very sceptical about torche though. the selected tracks I've heard have indeed sounded like foo fighters in southern lord jeans (thought I was alone in that assertion...). however, I probably should indeed check out the album, if only to stop people badgering me about it.

really surprised the boris album placed so highly...some great moments, but overall a relatively weak and patchy effort - especially the godawful first track.

however, great (not to mention unexpected) to see my personal fave of last year, made out of babies, in the top 10. my other top-rankers here: harvey milk (though it's not quite as great as special wishes); earth; meshuggah; melvins; krallice; asva; coffins; marnie stern. false metal all the way.

notable by absence: desalvo

m the g, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, "Foo Fighters in Southern Lord jeans" totally sounds like it could be rock album of the year to me. I'm downloading.

Sundar, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:15 (fifteen years ago) link

My thoughts on the poll.

When I 1st started taking ballots on this I expected the front runners to be
Torche
Enslaved
Opeth
Amon Amarth
Gojira

based on what I had read on the rolling metal 2008 thread last year.

With the rest of the top 10 to maybe have crossover acts who would pick up votes off everyone like
Boris
Earth
Harvey Milk.

I knew of course there would be some dark horses and I just hadn't heard those albums. Made Out Of Babies I knew people had raved about so I expected it to do quite well- top 20 maybe.

When the votes came in Torche did very well as did Enslaved. It must have been neck and neck although I wasnt counting votes.
The others were doing steadily enough apart from Opeth which was doing surprisingly badly.

But then in the 2nd week Opeth votes came flooding in and Enslaved just dropped off the radar. Amon Amarth just didn't get going really and it soon became apparent that 5ive and Esoteric were doing very well.

It still came as a shock however that albums 2-5 were that order. I thought Enslaved had maybe done enough early on but no, the votes had dried up totally.

There was some nice surprises in that two albums I really repped for on ILX last year did so well. 5ive , Esoteric and Caina. I did expect Esoteric to maybe go top 20 and it scored well early on so I fancied it might go close to the top 10. 5ive really exceeded my expectations in this poll, but I am so glad to see it do so well. Even if it's not exactly metal. The same with the Grails album.

So please check out the albums you don't know. If you have heard them, play it again, sometimes albums you weren't into can just click. Even months later.
Thanks to all who voted/nominated ,I think it's been a successful poll. Is different enough to what we have seen in magazine polls and is fairly representative of the Rolling Metal Threads and it's lurkers. And is also a very good companion and little brother to the main ILX poll. Most of these albums wont be on that, but now have a chance to be heard and not just forgotten about.

Now for Glenn to pop along with his complete stats rundown.
But until then, lets further discuss the results!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, let's start with the complete rundown of the raw stats.

Rank - Points - Votes - #1s - Artist - Album

1 - 479 - 25 - 2 - Torche - Meanderthal
2 - 357 - 19 - 3 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
3 - 276 - 19 - 0 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
4 - 227 - 16 - 0 - Boris - Smile
5 - 212 - 13 - 1 - Opeth - Watershed
6 - 203 - 11 - 1 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
7 - 183 - 10 - 2 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
8 - 179 - 12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus
9 - 165 - 10 - 2 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
10 - 163 - 10 - 0 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion
12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen
13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice
17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air
20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm
42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
52 - 47 - 5 - 0 - Eluveitie - Slania
53 - 46 - 4 - 0 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
54 - 44 - 4 - 0 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
54 - 44 - 3 - 0 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Conifer - Crown Fire
58 - 41 - 3 - 0 - Jarboe - Mahakali
61 - 40 - 2 - 0 - Brave - Monuments
61 - 40 - 3 - 0 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
63 - 39 - 3 - 1 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
64 - 38 - 4 - 0 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
67 - 37 - 2 - 0 - Sex/Vid - Communal Living
68 - 36 - 2 - 0 - Girlschool - Legacy
69 - 35 - 4 - 0 - Motorhead - Motorizer
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Death Angel - Killing Season
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Ocrilim - Annwn
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Septicflesh - Communion
74 - 33 - 2 - 1 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade
74 - 33 - 3 - 0 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
76 - 32 - 2 - 1 - Equilibrium - Sagas
76 - 32 - 4 - 0 - Tyr - Land
78 - 31 - 2 - 1 - Pyramids - Pyramids
78 - 31 - 2 - 0 - Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Ayreon - 01011001
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Candlemass - Lucifer Rising
82 - 29 - 3 - 0 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
82 - 29 - 2 - 0 - Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aura Noir - Hades Rise
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Morkobot - Morto
89 - 27 - 2 - 1 - In This Moment - The Dream
89 - 27 - 3 - 0 - Graveyard - Graveyard
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Burst - Lazarus Bird
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - The Lizards - archeology
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within
97 - 23 - 2 - 0 - Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Everon - North
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Legless - Finding Mr. Perfect
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
97 - 23 - 3 - 0 - Trees - Lights Bane
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Capricorns - River, Bear Your Bones
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Helix - The Power of Rock and Roll
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Moho - Chotocabra
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Orakle - Tourments & perdition
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ayat - Six Years of Dormant Hatred
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - The Devil's Blood - Come, Reap
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Ihsahn - angL
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Taint - Secrets and Lies
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ted Nugent - Sweden Rocks
112 - 20 - 1 - 0 - Colour Haze - All
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - Atavist/Nadja - II: Points at Infinity
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - DragonForce - Ultra Beatdown
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - The Human Abstract - Midheaven
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Into Eternity - The Incurable Tragedy
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Oceans of Sadness - The Arrogance of Ignorance
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Cave - Hunt Like Devil
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Celestia - Frigidiis Apotheosia: Abstinencia Genesiis
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Grand Magus - Iron Will
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Mouth of the Architect - Quietly
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Night Ranger - Hole In the Sun
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Salome - Salome
124 - 17 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel & Nadja - Christ Send Light
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Disturbed - Indestructible
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Gyongyver - Vilagok Viraga
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Janvs - Vega
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Klabautamann - Our Journey Through the Woods
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Ondo - Mahavishnu
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Scar Symmetry - Holographic Universe
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Wrath of the Weak - Alogon
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - The Death of Her Money - Spirit of the Stairwell
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Keep of Kalessin - Kolossus
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Martriden - The Unsettling Dark
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Other Fools - 12 More Lies
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Zozobra - Bird of Prey
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Arkona - Ot Serdca K Nebu
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Desalvo - Mood Poisoner
137 - 15 - 2 - 0 - Origin - Antithesis
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - The Austrasian Goat - pieces to oblivian
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Early Man - Beware the Circling Fin
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Hate Eternal - Fury and Flames
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Hey Colossus - Happy Birthday
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Noekk - The Minstrel's Curse
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Monolith Deathcult - Trivmvirate
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Mount Logan - Mount Logan
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Austrian Death Machine - Total Brutal
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Don Caballero - Punkgasm
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Tecumseh - Avalanche and Inundation
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Daylight Dies - Lost to the Living
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Elder - Elder
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - The Haunted - Versus
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Mourning Beloveth - A Disease for the Ages
150 - 11 - 2 - 0 - Pentemple - 0))) Presents
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Arckanum - Antikosmos
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Black Shape of Nexus (B.son) - Microbarome Meetings
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Catley, Bob - Immortal
156 - 10 - 2 - 0 - Guapo - Elixirs
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Akimbo - Jersey Shores
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Amassfer - Slaves For Life
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Draconian - Turning Season Within
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Fiftywatthead - Fogcutter
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Nadja - The Bungled And the Botched
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Textures - Silhouettes
166 - 8 - 1 - 0 - Lantlos - Lantlos
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Becoming the Archetype - Dichotomy
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Isole - Bliss of Solitude
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - In Mourning - Shrouded Divine
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - The Lamp of Thoth - Portents, Omens and Doom
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Viking Skull - Doom Gloom Heartache & Whiskey
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cavalera Conspiracy - Inflikted
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cursed - III
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Dalriada - Szelek
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Hyatari - They will surface
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Khold - Hundre a Gammal
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Gods And Queens - S/T
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Heavy Winged - Alive in My Mouth
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - My Silent Wake - A Garland of Tears
182 - 3 - 2 - 0 - Poisonblack - A Dead Heavy Day
182 - 3 - 1 - 0 - White Lion - Return of the Pride
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - The Amenta - nOn
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Arsis - We Are the Nightmare
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Farmakon - Robin
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Cor Scorpii - Monument
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Indian - Slights and Abuse / the Sycophant
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Metsatoll - Iivakivi
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Suspyre - When Time Fades...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:28 (fifteen years ago) link

If anyone wants to buy the Torche vinyl then go to the Robotic Empire Webstore and pick it up. There's several different colours available (as you will see if you scroll down) PLUS you can also order the repress of their self-titled first lp And their In Return EP

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:29 (fifteen years ago) link

2nd pressing pics
http://www.roboticempire.com/store/images/store/meanderthal_2ndpress_spread.jpg

And now back to Glenn.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Here's the comparison with P&J. This list omits anything that had no votes in P&J and only 1 or 2 votes here. Remember that there were 30 voters in this poll, 577 in P&J.

Here - P&J - Artist - Album

25 - 26 - Torche - Meanderthal
19 - 9 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
19 - 5 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
16 - 6 - Boris - Smile
13 - 9 - Opeth - Watershed
12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus
11 - 11 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion
10 - 6 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
10 - 6 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
10 - 5 - Meshuggah - obZen
10 - 2 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
10 - 1 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
9 - 6 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
8 - 4 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
8 - 4 - Krallice - Krallice
8 - 3 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
8 - 1 - Cynic - Traced in Air
8 - 1 - Coffins - Buried Death
8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
7 - 1 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
7 - 1 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
6 - 5 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
6 - 1 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
6 - 1 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
6 - 1 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
5 - 10 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
5 - 2 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
5 - 2 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
5 - 1 - Eluveitie - Slania
5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
4 - 24 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
4 - 11 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
4 - 10 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
4 - 5 - Disfear - Live the Storm
4 - 3 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
4 - 1 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
4 - 1 - Tyr - Land
4 - 1 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
4 - 1 - Motorhead - Motorizer
4 - 0 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
4 - 0 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
3 - 2 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
3 - 1 - Trees - Lights Bane
3 - 1 - Ocrilim - Annwn
3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
3 - 1 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
3 - 1 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
3 - 1 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
3 - 1 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
3 - 0 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
3 - 0 - Morkobot - Morto
3 - 0 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
3 - 0 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
3 - 0 - Jarboe - Mahakali
3 - 0 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
3 - 0 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
3 - 0 - Graveyard - Graveyard
3 - 0 - Death Angel - Killing Season
3 - 0 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
2 - 2 - In This Moment - The Dream
2 - 2 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
2 - 1 - Septicflesh - Communion
2 - 1 - Pyramids - Pyramids
2 - 1 - Grand Magus - Iron Will
2 - 1 - Cave - Hunt Like Devil
1 - 2 - Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between
1 - 1 - The Haunted - Versus
1 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
1 - 1 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
1 - 1 - Into Eternity - The Incurable Tragedy
1 - 1 - Everon - North
1 - 1 - Disturbed - Indestructible
1 - 1 - Burst - Lazarus Bird

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I suspect a lot of those P&J votes came from people on here.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Interesting that the Nachtmystium had the same amount of voters. Not surprised the Gutter Twins album got more in the P&J , or that Metallica got way more voters in the P&J. (Shows that ILXors do have better taste!)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if all 6 voters in this poll were the same 6 who voted on P&J.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:43 (fifteen years ago) link

At least a few of them came from this tasteless fool: http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/769865

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:48 (fifteen years ago) link

As a P&J-related footnote, 7 of the voters in this poll (as far as I know) also voted in P&J. Here they are scored by the number of metal albums they had the courage to vote for in a non-metal forum:

7 - glenn mcdonald
7 - J3ff T
3 - A Begrand
2 - Whiney G
1 - Xhukkx
1 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0 - Mordy

Ahem.

In fact, using this poll's list as a defacto definition of what was metal this year, I have added secret kvlt markings to the bottoms of the voter pages in my P&J poll-analysis, showing how many metal albums that person voted for. For example:

mine - http://www.furia.com/all-idols/2008/2895.html
Kurt Orzeck - http://www.furia.com/all-idols/2008/2895.html

Kurt was the only P&J voter to use 8 of 10 slots on metal albums (and nobody used 9 or 10).

And then, using those voter metal scores, and have applied similar kvlt markings to the album pages, not according to whether the album itself is on our list, but according to how metal that album's voters were, on average. Call this a measure of True Metal, or kvltosis (statistics joke). Here's everything whose voters voted for an average of more than 1 metal album, ranked by that average:

7.3 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
7.0 - Neuraxis - Thin Line Between
6.0 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
5.5 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
5.5 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
5.4 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle, Pt.1
5.2 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
5.1 - Opeth - Watershed
4.8 - Gojira - Way of All Flesh
4.8 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
4.8 - Meshuggah - obZen
4.8 - Krallice - Krallice
4.5 - Dead Congregation - Graves of the Archangels
4.0 - Harvey Milk - Life...The Best Game in Town
4.0 - In This Moment - Dream
4.0 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
3.5 - Ceremony - Still Nothing Moves You
3.5 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
3.5 - Judas Priest - Nostradamus
3.5 - Slim Cessna's Auto Club - Cipher
3.3 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
3.3 - Made Out of Babies - Ruiner
3.3 - Sword - Gods of the Earth
3.0 - Darkthrone - Dark Thrones and Black Flags
3.0 - Howlin' Rain - Magnificent Fiend
3.0 - Testament - Formation of Damnation
2.8 - Torche - Meanderthal
2.6 - Disfear - Live the Storm
2.6 - Earth - Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull
2.5 - Burning Star Core - Challenger
2.5 - Rhys Chatham and His Guitar Trio All-Stars - Guitar Trio Is My Life!
2.0 - Snowman - Horse, the Rat and the Swan
2.0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
1.8 - Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
1.7 - Marnie Stern - This Is It . . .
1.7 - Dirtbombs - We Have You Surrounded
1.7 - Mogwai - Hawk Is Howling
1.5 - Baby Dee - Safe Inside the Day
1.5 - Bohren and der Club of Gore - Dolores
1.5 - Boris - Smile
1.5 - Fennesz - Black Sea
1.5 - Heavy - Great Vengeance and Furious Fire
1.5 - Lukestar - Lake Toba
1.5 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
1.5 - Mr. Gnome - Deliver This Creature
1.5 - Necrovation - Breed Deadness Blood
1.4 - AC/DC - Black Ice
1.3 - Jean Grae - Jeanius
1.2 - Dungen - 4
1.2 - Fucked Up - Chemistry of Common Life
1.2 - James Blackshaw - Litany of Echoes

This may be the most interesting list to come out of this poll. Torche may have won, but Amon Amarth are the Truest. This sounds like a real insight to me, whether you think True is good or bad.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I count 8 metal albums on my ballot... are you not counting Hammers of Misfortune?

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, I'm fairly sure Howlin' Rain aren't metal (although I do like that album).

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, no real shock at these guys being the truest metal:

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted a metal album in the ILX poll. The problem isn't courage, it's that no metal album I voted for here cracked my top 10. Sorry guyz :(

Mordy, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Also, forget any idea of ILM Metal voting blocks. Nachtmystium's 11 P&J votes include only one from anybody who voted in this poll. Torche's 26 include only 3 of ours. Jeff and I accounted for 2/3rds of the P&J metal votes from people in this poll, and our ballots didn't overlap at all!

As I said, the "definition" of metal I used for scoring voters was all, and only, albums that got at least one vote in this poll. Thus Testament doesn't count (4 P&J votes, one from Jeff). Nor does Black Sabbath (1 P&J vote). And probably there are others that we "know" are metal. But I'm just reporting the numbers as they are, not as they "should" be...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Back to this poll, here are the average points/voter for all albums that got at least 3 votes:

23.6 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
19.6 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
19.1 - Torche - Meanderthal
18.7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
18.4 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
18.3 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
17.8 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
17.5 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
17.1 - Krallice - Krallice
16.8 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
16.6 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
16.6 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
16.5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
16.3 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
16.3 - Opeth - Watershed
16.1 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
16 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
16 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
16 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
15.7 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
15.7 - Cynic - Traced in Air
15.5 - Meshuggah - obZen
15.3 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
15.2 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
15 - Disfear - Live the Storm
14.9 - 5ive - Hesperus
14.8 - Moss - Sub Templum
14.7 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
14.6 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
14.5 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
14.3 - The Goslings - Occasion
14.1 - Boris - Smile
14.1 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
14 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
14 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
14 - Witch - Paralyzed
13.8 - Coffins - Buried Death
13.8 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
13.7 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
13.6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
13.6 - Jarboe - Mahakali
13.5 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
13.5 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
13.5 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
13.3 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
13.1 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
13 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
13 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
12.6 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
12.6 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
12.5 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
12.5 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
12.4 - Darkspace - III
12 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
11.5 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
11.3 - Death Angel - Killing Season
11.3 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
11.3 - Ocrilim - Annwn
11 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
11 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
11 - UFOmammut - Idolum
10.5 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
10.4 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
9.6 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
9.5 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
9.4 - Eluveitie - Slania
9.3 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
9.3 - Morkobot - Morto
9.1 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
9 - Graveyard - Graveyard
8.7 - Motorhead - Motorizer
8 - Tyr - Land
7.6 - Trees - Lights Bane

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Cynic album, which I like, pushes my Porcupine Tree buttons. Holds up on relistens too.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:20 (fifteen years ago) link

And here are the centricity scores for our 30 voters. These measure how close to critical consensus each voter's picks were, with 1 meaning you picked exactly the top 25 (or however many you voted for), and 0 meaning you were the only voter for everything you picked.

0.89 - Brad C
0.79 - Matthew Everett
0.76 - EZ Snappin'
0.75 - Big Hoos
0.75 - Bimble
0.73 - Whiney G
0.72 - A Begrand
0.72 - Marco Damiani
0.72 - Pfunkboy
0.71 - Ryan random
0.7 - Aldo
0.7 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.68 - Kathedraal
0.65 - John Justen
0.65 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.64 - Colonel Poo
0.64 - Alan N
0.64 - Don Parsley
0.63 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.62 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.58 - Ez
0.55 - DJ Mencap
0.49 - J3ff T
0.46 - Karl Vesely
0.45 - Matt Cibula
0.45 - Poison Stone
0.38 - Mordy
0.26 - DJ Martian
0.23 - glenn mcdonald
0.12 - Xhukkx

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:24 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't even WANT to know where your porcupine tree buttons are located.

x-post

scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought I would be higher.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:31 (fifteen years ago) link

The hilarious thing about this poll is that, even though Chuck only got .12, it actually goes a long way towards supporting his definition of metal.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Here are the top 5 most similar other voters for each voter. The decimal number is a rough measurement of similarity: 1.000 would mean the two people's ballots exactly matched. This takes into account album popularity, so the fewer people voted for an album, the more similar two voters are for sharing it. The second number is the raw number of albums in common.

A Begrand
0.556 - 16 - Matthew Everett
0.528 - 14 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.453 - 12 - Big Hoos
0.438 - 10 - J3ff T
0.430 - 9 - Brad C

Alan N
0.354 - 6 - Marco Damiani
0.345 - 6 - Ez
0.318 - 5 - EZ Snappin'
0.314 - 6 - Kathedraal
0.305 - 6 - Pfunkboy

Aldo
0.431 - 8 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.409 - 7 - Bimble
0.398 - 9 - Whiney G
0.390 - 9 - Big Hoos
0.354 - 8 - John Justen

Big Hoos
0.446 - 12 - A Begrand
0.414 - 12 - Matthew Everett
0.400 - 9 - Aldo
0.387 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.380 - 5 - Mordy

Bimble
0.365 - 7 - Aldo
0.330 - 7 - Pfunkboy
0.298 - 4 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.298 - 6 - Ez
0.292 - 3 - Colonel Poo

Brad C
0.406 - 10 - Matthew Everett
0.383 - 9 - A Begrand
0.370 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.363 - 6 - DJ Martian
0.334 - 8 - Big Hoos

Colonel Poo
0.405 - 6 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.391 - 7 - Whiney G
0.309 - 5 - Aldo
0.292 - 3 - Bimble
0.282 - 5 - A Begrand
0.282 - 5 - Matthew Everett

Cut_your_ribbon
0.531 - 12 - Ryan random
0.493 - 13 - Kathedraal
0.425 - 10 - Ez
0.423 - 11 - Pfunkboy
0.367 - 7 - Poison Stone

DJ Martian
0.408 - 6 - Brad C
0.390 - 7 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.329 - 6 - J3ff T
0.300 - 5 - Matthew Everett
0.296 - 4 - Matt Cibula

DJ Mencap
0.402 - 8 - Marco Damiani
0.391 - 5 - Karl Vesely
0.386 - 9 - Pfunkboy
0.385 - 9 - Kathedraal
0.331 - 8 - Matthew Everett

Don Parsley
0.464 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.425 - 9 - Marco Damiani
0.372 - 9 - Matthew Everett
0.370 - 8 - Pfunkboy
0.338 - 7 - Kathedraal

Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.436 - 12 - Matthew Everett
0.417 - 8 - Brad C
0.399 - 9 - Marco Damiani
0.390 - 7 - DJ Martian
0.380 - 8 - J3ff T

Ez
0.497 - 13 - Pfunkboy
0.427 - 10 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.420 - 9 - Marco Damiani
0.388 - 6 - Alan N
0.373 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep

EZ Snappin'
0.398 - 9 - John Justen
0.394 - 9 - A Begrand
0.365 - 9 - Pfunkboy
0.354 - 7 - Brad C
0.350 - 5 - ILXOR (Stephen)

glenn mcdonald
0.404 - 6 - John Justen
0.346 - 5 - A Begrand
0.343 - 5 - Big Hoos
0.326 - 5 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.312 - 4 - Don Parsley

ILXOR (Stephen)
0.438 - 6 - Colonel Poo
0.415 - 8 - Aldo
0.378 - 7 - Whiney G
0.364 - 7 - Big Hoos
0.343 - 7 - John Justen

J3ff T
0.489 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.438 - 10 - A Begrand
0.380 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.353 - 5 - Ryan random
0.352 - 5 - Xhukkx

John Justen
0.435 - 10 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.417 - 10 - A Begrand
0.413 - 9 - EZ Snappin'
0.404 - 6 - glenn mcdonald
0.369 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)

jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.528 - 14 - A Begrand
0.489 - 11 - J3ff T
0.464 - 11 - Don Parsley
0.441 - 11 - Matthew Everett
0.435 - 10 - John Justen

Karl Vesely
0.393 - 6 - Pfunkboy
0.339 - 5 - DJ Mencap
0.296 - 4 - Marco Damiani
0.289 - 4 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.271 - 3 - Brad C

Kathedraal
0.493 - 13 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.478 - 11 - Ryan random
0.468 - 13 - Pfunkboy
0.382 - 9 - DJ Mencap
0.378 - 8 - Whiney G

Marco Damiani
0.434 - 10 - Pfunkboy
0.410 - 9 - Don Parsley
0.405 - 9 - Ez
0.388 - 8 - DJ Mencap
0.385 - 9 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep

Matt Cibula
0.372 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.325 - 8 - Matthew Everett
0.321 - 4 - Xhukkx
0.311 - 7 - Big Hoos
0.302 - 7 - A Begrand

Matthew Everett
0.556 - 16 - A Begrand
0.456 - 10 - Brad C
0.441 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.436 - 12 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.420 - 12 - Big Hoos

Mordy
0.329 - 5 - Big Hoos
0.291 - 3 - ILXOR (Stephen)

Pfunkboy
0.497 - 13 - Ez
0.471 - 13 - Kathedraal
0.465 - 10 - Poison Stone
0.454 - 6 - Karl Vesely
0.450 - 10 - Marco Damiani

Poison Stone
0.465 - 10 - Pfunkboy
0.369 - 7 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.363 - 7 - Kathedraal
0.358 - 7 - Ez
0.326 - 6 - ILXOR (Stephen)

Ryan random
0.511 - 12 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.460 - 11 - Kathedraal
0.351 - 8 - Pfunkboy
0.339 - 6 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.337 - 5 - J3ff T

Whiney G
0.434 - 7 - Colonel Poo
0.394 - 9 - Aldo
0.389 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.364 - 8 - Kathedraal
0.343 - 9 - Matthew Everett

Xhukkx
0.352 - 5 - J3ff T
0.321 - 4 - Matt Cibula

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:35 (fifteen years ago) link

so glad amon amarth's once sent from the golden hall is being reissued so all you doofuses who have never heard it can finally hear how great it is and realize that they've never made a better record since. and i use the term doofus with the greatest respect.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:40 (fifteen years ago) link

And here are some calculated album similarities based on voter overlap. Note that these involve no outside information or editorial intervention, they are solely produced by simple math, so if some of the association seem strange, blame the voters.

5ive - Hesperus
0.486 - 7 - UFOmammut - Idolum
0.478 - 11 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.424 - 12 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.422 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.417 - 7 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.381 - 6 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
0.333 - 5 - Moss - Sub Templum
0.305 - 6 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.303 - 5 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
0.278 - 5 - Coffins - Buried Death

Amen Ra - Mass IIII
0.256 - 4 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn

Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.372 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed
0.361 - 6 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.361 - 6 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.320 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm
0.313 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.286 - 5 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.278 - 4 - Eluveitie - Slania
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.246 - 4 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
0.246 - 4 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms

Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
0.312 - 6 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.269 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.246 - 4 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

Boris - Smile
0.536 - 15 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.464 - 8 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.452 - 11 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.435 - 8 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.399 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.388 - 8 - Opeth - Watershed
0.380 - 7 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.380 - 7 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.343 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.343 - 6 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.343 - 6 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke

Caina - Temporary Antennae
0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town

Coffins - Buried Death
0.328 - 8 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
0.244 - 5 - The Goslings - Occasion

Cynic - Traced in Air
0.500 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.320 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
0.313 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.292 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed
0.263 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.263 - 5 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.245 - 6 - Boris - Smile

Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.693 - 16 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.645 - 18 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.600 - 11 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.496 - 8 - UFOmammut - Idolum
0.493 - 11 - Boris - Smile
0.438 - 7 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
0.435 - 8 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
0.435 - 8 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.410 - 8 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.407 - 7 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
0.407 - 7 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke

Earthless - Live at Roadburn
0.337 - 4 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII

Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.530 - 7 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.449 - 7 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.365 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed
0.305 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
0.303 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.267 - 4 - Wetnurse - Invisible City

Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
0.403 - 6 - UFOmammut - Idolum
0.318 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.261 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.256 - 4 - Darkspace - III
0.251 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal

Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.473 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.435 - 8 - Opeth - Watershed
0.403 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.357 - 5 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
0.319 - 6 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.296 - 9 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.294 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.294 - 5 - Krallice - Krallice
0.291 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm
0.291 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire

The Goslings - Occasion
0.428 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.427 - 7 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.338 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.314 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.292 - 6 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.286 - 5 - Coffins - Buried Death
0.244 - 5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner

Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
0.273 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.270 - 5 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.256 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.693 - 16 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.645 - 18 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.559 - 10 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.529 - 10 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.514 - 9 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.496 - 8 - Coffins - Buried Death
0.435 - 8 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.434 - 10 - Boris - Smile
0.407 - 7 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
0.407 - 7 - Krallice - Krallice
0.407 - 7 - UFOmammut - Idolum

Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
0.305 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed

Krallice - Krallice
0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.263 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.244 - 5 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1

Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.380 - 7 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.376 - 9 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.342 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.318 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.302 - 7 - Boris - Smile
0.280 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed
0.250 - 5 - Meshuggah - obZen

Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.407 - 7 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.342 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.323 - 5 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
0.318 - 8 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.302 - 7 - Boris - Smile
0.291 - 4 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
0.261 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...

Meshuggah - obZen
0.403 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.368 - 8 - Boris - Smile
0.357 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed
0.319 - 6 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.294 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.251 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.250 - 5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner

Moonspell - Night Eternal
0.278 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh

Moss - Sub Templum
0.267 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.384 - 11 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.362 - 8 - Boris - Smile
0.334 - 6 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.334 - 6 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.286 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.286 - 5 - Krallice - Krallice
0.257 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.244 - 5 - Melvins - Nude With Boots

Opeth - Watershed
0.496 - 8 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.473 - 7 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.442 - 6 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
0.438 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.407 - 7 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.371 - 6 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.350 - 8 - Boris - Smile
0.331 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.323 - 5 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
0.319 - 6 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner

Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
0.320 - 4 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
0.269 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.245 - 6 - Boris - Smile

Torche - Meanderthal
0.739 - 18 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.739 - 18 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.668 - 15 - Boris - Smile
0.605 - 12 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.569 - 11 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.529 - 10 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.529 - 10 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.502 - 10 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.458 - 9 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.455 - 10 - Opeth - Watershed

UFOmammut - Idolum
0.398 - 7 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.361 - 6 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
0.328 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.246 - 4 - Moss - Sub Templum
0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
0.267 - 4 - Moss - Sub Templum

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:41 (fifteen years ago) link

you're awesome. are you going to do all this cool stuff for the main ilx poll?

BIGrack HOOSein Obama (k3vin k.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Torche album is pretty bitching. A lot of stuff on here I need to check, and a lot I don't need to check (substandard Boris album, fair to middling Sunn 0)) album, I've never like Attila's vocals, and death metal stuff - I don't like death metal). But at least it's quite a varied lot and not rote.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:45 (fifteen years ago) link

And lastly, I think, like a little minty wafer after pointless gorging, here is the distribution of vote-counts by album:

25 - 1
19 - 2
16 - 1
13 - 1
12 - 1
11 - 2
10 - 5
9 - 1
8 - 9
7 - 2
6 - 9
5 - 7
4 - 12
3 - 20
2 - 38
1 - 79
0 - 67

I.e., 1 album got 25 votes, 2 got 19, ... 79 albums got only 1 vote each, and 67 nominated albums got no votes.

And here is the distribution of 1-vote albums by voter:

15 - 1
13 - 1
6 - 2
5 - 2
4 - 1
3 - 1
2 - 8
1 - 6
0 - 8

I.e., 1 voter (Chuck) had 15 albums nobody else voted for, 1 (DJ Martian) had 13, ... 8 voters didn't vote for anything that nobody else voted for.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
0.312 - 6 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.269 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.246 - 4 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

But no Sunn 0))) ? How weird!!!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I think that's all I've got. Any questions?

Asva and Sunn 0))) had only three voters in common, so their score fell below my cutoff.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Well if you know the history you will see why it's funny.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:56 (fifteen years ago) link

i.e. a certain G. Stuart Dahlquist

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:58 (fifteen years ago) link

G. Stuart Dahlquist - Asva (Former member of Burning Witch, Sunn O))), Goatsnake)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:02 (fifteen years ago) link

As a P&J-related footnote, 7 of the voters in this poll (as far as I know) also voted in P&J. Here they are scored by the number of metal albums they had the courage to vote for in a non-metal forum:

3 - A Begrand

Ha, I'm awful.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

And here are the centricity scores for our 30 voters. These measure how close to critical consensus each voter's picks were, with 1 meaning you picked exactly the top 25 (or however many you voted for), and 0 meaning you were the only voter for everything you picked.

0.89 - Brad C

Note to self, quit reading so many reviews

Brad C., Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Or reading anything I recommend!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Calculated similarities always produce some funny things. That's part of why I do them. Melvins/Marnie Stern is my favorite one here...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

you're awesome. are you going to do all this cool stuff for the main ilx poll?

You mean so we can see the voter similarity for the unholy Bon Iver-Fleet Foxes-Vampire Weekend trinity?

ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:13 (fifteen years ago) link

or the similarities between corny indie albums and what the lex votes for? awesome!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I shall at some point(tomorrow) tally up what record labels got the most albums people voted for (unless some kind soul does it 1st)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

(that's a hint)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:32 (fifteen years ago) link

thread of the year, and i don't even like metal. good job for all involved as this was an awesome poll.

Bee OK, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:40 (fifteen years ago) link

Glad you enjoyed it. Hope lots of people check out lots of the albums mentioned!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll do the labels thing tomorrow then.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish more people wrote blurbs for these. Myself included.

ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I missed the Top 10 countdown but I'm pretty happy with results.

Not really a blurb, but I can say I sincerely enjoyed the Nachtmystium album: I found it truly headscratching and I mean this in the best way possible. Its made out of opposite, almost impossible to mix together influences and still its very much Nachtmystium: "Ghosts of Grace" sounds like a black metal Kids of the Black Hole re-write and still it easily rubs shoulders with Pink Floyd-inspired numbers.

Marco Damiani, Saturday, 24 January 2009 11:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I wis more people had wrote blurbs too. I did my best though.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

Willem have you checked out Courtesy And Good Will Toward Men? that is their true masterpiece

― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Recently bought and love this record, will now have to finally get their latest one too!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Top Placing Labels In the Top 50 Vote


Hydra Head 6
Profoundlore 4
Southern Lord 3
Relapse 2
Season of Mist 2
Prosthetic 2
I Hate Records 2
Burning World 2
Century Media 2
20 Buck Spin 1
Avant Garde 1
Crucial Blast 1
Gnarled Forest 1
Important 1
Indie 1
Ipecac 1
Kill Rock Stars 1
Listenable 1
Metal Blade 1
Moribund 1
Not Not Fun 1
Nuclear Blast 1
Rise Above 1
Roadrunner 1
Seventh Rule 1
Southern 1
SPV/Steamhammer 1
Sub Pop 1
Supernatural Cat 1
Tee Pee 1
Temporary Residence LTD 1
The End Records 1
Warner Bros 1

And here for posterity is a repost of the full ballot results.

Rank - Points - Votes - #1s - Artist - Album

1 - 479 - 25 - 2 - Torche - Meanderthal
2 - 357 - 19 - 3 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
3 - 276 - 19 - 0 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
4 - 227 - 16 - 0 - Boris - Smile
5 - 212 - 13 - 1 - Opeth - Watershed
6 - 203 - 11 - 1 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
7 - 183 - 10 - 2 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
8 - 179 - 12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus
9 - 165 - 10 - 2 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
10 - 163 - 10 - 0 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion
12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen
13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice
17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air
20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm
42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
52 - 47 - 5 - 0 - Eluveitie - Slania
53 - 46 - 4 - 0 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
54 - 44 - 4 - 0 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
54 - 44 - 3 - 0 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Conifer - Crown Fire
58 - 41 - 3 - 0 - Jarboe - Mahakali
61 - 40 - 2 - 0 - Brave - Monuments
61 - 40 - 3 - 0 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
63 - 39 - 3 - 1 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
64 - 38 - 4 - 0 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
67 - 37 - 2 - 0 - Sex/Vid - Communal Living
68 - 36 - 2 - 0 - Girlschool - Legacy
69 - 35 - 4 - 0 - Motorhead - Motorizer
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Death Angel - Killing Season
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Ocrilim - Annwn
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Septicflesh - Communion
74 - 33 - 2 - 1 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade
74 - 33 - 3 - 0 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
76 - 32 - 2 - 1 - Equilibrium - Sagas
76 - 32 - 4 - 0 - Tyr - Land
78 - 31 - 2 - 1 - Pyramids - Pyramids
78 - 31 - 2 - 0 - Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Ayreon - 01011001
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Candlemass - Lucifer Rising
82 - 29 - 3 - 0 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
82 - 29 - 2 - 0 - Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aura Noir - Hades Rise
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Morkobot - Morto
89 - 27 - 2 - 1 - In This Moment - The Dream
89 - 27 - 3 - 0 - Graveyard - Graveyard
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Burst - Lazarus Bird
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - The Lizards - archeology
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within
97 - 23 - 2 - 0 - Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Everon - North
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Legless - Finding Mr. Perfect
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
97 - 23 - 3 - 0 - Trees - Lights Bane
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Capricorns - River, Bear Your Bones
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Helix - The Power of Rock and Roll
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Moho - Chotocabra
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Orakle - Tourments & perdition
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ayat - Six Years of Dormant Hatred
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - The Devil's Blood - Come, Reap
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Ihsahn - angL
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Taint - Secrets and Lies
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ted Nugent - Sweden Rocks
112 - 20 - 1 - 0 - Colour Haze - All
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - Atavist/Nadja - II: Points at Infinity
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - DragonForce - Ultra Beatdown
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - The Human Abstract - Midheaven
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Into Eternity - The Incurable Tragedy
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Oceans of Sadness - The Arrogance of Ignorance
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Cave - Hunt Like Devil
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Celestia - Frigidiis Apotheosia: Abstinencia Genesiis
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Grand Magus - Iron Will
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Mouth of the Architect - Quietly
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Night Ranger - Hole In the Sun
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Salome - Salome
124 - 17 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel & Nadja - Christ Send Light
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Disturbed - Indestructible
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Gyongyver - Vilagok Viraga
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Janvs - Vega
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Klabautamann - Our Journey Through the Woods
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Ondo - Mahavishnu
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Scar Symmetry - Holographic Universe
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Wrath of the Weak - Alogon
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - The Death of Her Money - Spirit of the Stairwell
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Keep of Kalessin - Kolossus
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Martriden - The Unsettling Dark
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Other Fools - 12 More Lies
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Zozobra - Bird of Prey
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Arkona - Ot Serdca K Nebu
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Desalvo - Mood Poisoner
137 - 15 - 2 - 0 - Origin - Antithesis
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - The Austrasian Goat - pieces to oblivian
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Early Man - Beware the Circling Fin
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Hate Eternal - Fury and Flames
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Hey Colossus - Happy Birthday
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Noekk - The Minstrel's Curse
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Monolith Deathcult - Trivmvirate
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Mount Logan - Mount Logan
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Austrian Death Machine - Total Brutal
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Don Caballero - Punkgasm
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Tecumseh - Avalanche and Inundation
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Daylight Dies - Lost to the Living
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Elder - Elder
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - The Haunted - Versus
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Mourning Beloveth - A Disease for the Ages
150 - 11 - 2 - 0 - Pentemple - 0))) Presents
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Arckanum - Antikosmos
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Black Shape of Nexus (B.son) - Microbarome Meetings
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Catley, Bob - Immortal
156 - 10 - 2 - 0 - Guapo - Elixirs
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Akimbo - Jersey Shores
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Amassfer - Slaves For Life
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Draconian - Turning Season Within
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Fiftywatthead - Fogcutter
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Nadja - The Bungled And the Botched
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Textures - Silhouettes
166 - 8 - 1 - 0 - Lantlos - Lantlos
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Becoming the Archetype - Dichotomy
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Isole - Bliss of Solitude
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - In Mourning - Shrouded Divine
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - The Lamp of Thoth - Portents, Omens and Doom
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Viking Skull - Doom Gloom Heartache & Whiskey
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cavalera Conspiracy - Inflikted
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cursed - III
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Dalriada - Szelek
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Hyatari - They will surface
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Khold - Hundre a Gammal
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Gods And Queens - S/T
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Heavy Winged - Alive in My Mouth
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - My Silent Wake - A Garland of Tears
182 - 3 - 2 - 0 - Poisonblack - A Dead Heavy Day
182 - 3 - 1 - 0 - White Lion - Return of the Pride
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - The Amenta - nOn
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Arsis - We Are the Nightmare
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Farmakon - Robin
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Cor Scorpii - Monument
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Indian - Slights and Abuse / the Sycophant
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Metsatoll - Iivakivi
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Suspyre - When Time Fades...

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

you done good, pfunkboy; this is a terrific thread!

xxp

Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:43 (fifteen years ago) link

seconded.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

or thirded or whatever!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:44 (fifteen years ago) link

now that the dust has settled, i just want to encourage people (again) to give that Zebulon Pike record a listen. its just epic.

ass partner are the most disgusting savages in all the world imo (John Justen), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

^good name.

Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:51 (fifteen years ago) link

Zebulon Pike are terrific.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:54 (fifteen years ago) link

In case anyone is Wondering, No, Geir did not vote.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

how about the lex?

Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I doubt he was aware the poll existed

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Just in case anyone is wondering I don't have the stats for record labels for the whole poll. I had to do the 50 manually by just running down the top 50 where I actually had posted the record label name.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:07 (fifteen years ago) link

This thread is lacking Alex In NYC death to false metal posts

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

DEATH TO FALSE METAL

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 17:33 (fifteen years ago) link

DEATH TO FALSE METAL!!1

ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:12 (fifteen years ago) link

Do a poll for rap now.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah Jeff do a poll for rap.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:42 (fifteen years ago) link

I thought deej or Hoos would have done a rap poll actually. Could have been a useful way for the non-autogoon's to find out about good stuff.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

METAL TO FALSE DEATH!!1

Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

To say something I'll probably regret - if someone can be arsed sorting out rules and such, I'll count votes and whatnot for a rap poll. Someone may also have to tell me how to post images.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 24 January 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

this thread made me finally warm up to that torche album. now to track down vinyl awesome version (i think i like lizard skin best)

CLAPSOCK (John Justen), Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

man, how old is Thor? wasn't he putting out records in the '70s???

(2CD Δορο is a nice touch, tho.)

Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I think most if not all of the 2nd press colours are still available from Robotic Empire.
Pic disk version was shops only.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Mikl_Thor

Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

His most recent album, Devastation of Musculation, was released in March, 2006.

good grief.

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

To say something I'll probably regret - if someone can be arsed sorting out rules and such, I'll count votes and whatnot for a rap poll. Someone may also have to tell me how to post images.

― a hoy hoy,

If you ask musically she might share her secrets with you. Though she will be busy for 2 weeks doing the big ilx poll results.
Also you should ask on the autogoon thread to see if anyone will help.

Posting images is easy. Just click the link to show formatting help below where you type out a post.

Good luck!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

What I did was I started a nominations thread.
Keep it open for a week. Then compile all the nominations then do a thread with the list on it, with details on how to vote and supply an email address for ballots to be sent to (I set up a specific gmail for it)
Once voting ends you count it all up.

Then I got stuck on how to tabulate and thankfully got help with that!
But if you know how to work excel, you should be ok!

Get album covers from Amazon or somewhere (don't use rateyourmusic, they don't show up)
And use the tag to post

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh and some of them would rather have a rap trax poll, so you might have to do both.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 19:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm thinking about it, if I do move it'll be tomorrow. cheers for the info though. (Tomorrow I'm also going to pick one of the albums on this list I like the cover of to listen to.)

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 24 January 2009 20:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Glad to be of help. Good luck with it all. Just keep bumping the nominations and voting threads. Check out the metal noms and voting threads for some tips on how to run it.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link

bats in a kayak! (latebloomer), Saturday, 24 January 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

a hoy hoy what album are you picking up?

Torche should appeal to all pop fans. The band themselves label it "stoner pop" or "sludge pop".

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

I might read about it first but 36 looks too great to shy away from.

a hoy hoy, Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Well thats one I dont know but of course troo metallers will tell you its not metal its punk or something.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

I cant find any pics of the deluxe versions of Earth or Colour Haze. Which is a shame as they're really nice.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

The Colour Haze gatefold was a sleeve like a hard backed book, inside it was like a photo book. Really really nice. I don't have a cam or I would take photos. Same with the Earth vinyl.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

http://squirrellgripprecords.com.au/product.php?productid=573832
http://squirrellgripprecords.com.au/images/P/colourhaze_all.jpg

DLP limited luxury edition: clothbound book cover, 4 page booklet and many nice features.
2 x 180gr. ltd. and handnumbered to 500 copies.

TRACKLIST:

1. Silent
2. Moon
3. Turns
4. Lights
5. If
6. Stars
7. All
8. Fall
9. One
10. Remains

"Colour Haze’s “All” lives up to its name. It seems to capture practically “All” of Colour Haze’s reach and breadth in one single amazing disc. Each album they have released has been, to me, a cause of celebration. But this one is a revelation—never before have they ever packed so much range into an album, and such a superb blend of studio precision and free flowing abandon. This album adds even more psychedelia (was that possible?) to the mix, along with the most effective set of shorter songs they’ve ever released."

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:32 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.southernlord.com/press/earthbeesmadehoney/images/cover_small.jpg
http://www.southernlord.com/images/merch/85/b3959053707ebdb90865e2f16ca878a1.jpg

EARTH - "THE BEES MADE HONEY IN THE LION'S SKULL"
sunn90 CD&2XLP

Earth's latest incarnation will be available FEBRUARY 2008. After refaceting some old gems for greater illumination on "Hibernaculum". The band returns once again to it's continuing evolution. Where "Hex" reveled in dark satanic twang and austere american beauty, "The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull" finds Dylan Carlson and the band growing into a harder, more rock, american Gospel and impovisitory direction framed by truly psychedelic production and blazing guitar sounds.

Earth shows it's affinity with a nod to the best elements of the more adventurous San Francisco bands of the late 60's and 70's, and the more spiritually aware and exciting forms of Jazz-Rock from the same era. This is no nostalgia trip but a thoroughly inspired and original metamorphosis. Earth is also very honored to be joined on this record for three songs by legendary and virtuoso guitarist BILL FRISELL (doing some of his most fuzzed out playing in years!) .

Bill Frisell adds a brilliant texture and counterpoint to the scintillating and inspired riffs of Dylan Carlson and the band. Adrienne Davies joins again on drums lending a classic and steady feel to the proceedings. Steve Moore also returns adding heavy hammond organ and his intense jazz inspired piano playing. Live Bassist Don McGreevy also makes his full length Earth debut on this record.

Earth will begin touring throughout the world when the album is released, Australia, Europe and a full US campaign and on from there. The new songs are equally compelling live where EARTH takes the vehicles and expand and explore them for further musical and meditative exploration. Enjoy "The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull".

"From Strength, sweetness. From darkness, Light, The bees made honey in the Lion's Skull"

1. Omens And Portents I : The Driver (mp3)
2. Rise To Glory
3. Miami Morning Coming Down II (Shine)
4. Engine Of Ruin
5. Omens And Portents II: Carrion Crow
6. Hung From The Moon
7. The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull

Dylan Carlson: Electric Guitars and Amplifiers Adrienne Davies: Drums and Percussion Steve Moore: Acoustic Grand Piano and Wurlitzer Electric Piano, Hammond Organ Don Mcgreevy: Electric Bass and Acoustic Upright Bass

Songs One, Four, Five Featuring: Bill Frisell: Electric Guitar and Amplifier

Further Information:

www.myspace.com/earthofficial
www.thronesanddominions.com
www.billfrisell.com

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 22:47 (fifteen years ago) link

So even if you dont like Metal, you might still like Earth

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 25 January 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

I had no idea Frisell played on an Earth album TBH. Will get for certain.

Everything I have downloaded so far is really good. Why did I never hear Caina before? And Torche indeed seems as good as "Foo Fighters in Southern Lord jeans" made them sound. (Actually, they remind me of Sunny Day Real Estate at times.)

(Had Opeth and Meshuggah before, liked both but thought both bands had done better, as my question upthread might have suggested.)

Sundar, Sunday, 25 January 2009 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link

But, in the case of Meshuggah, it might be that I just really like "I".

Sundar, Sunday, 25 January 2009 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

If anyone wants to show what they voted for, then post below and lets see how they compare with the actual results.
I wont be posting other peoples ballots as that would be unfair. But please post your own if you're so inclined.

My Ballot

Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
Torche - Meanderthal
Harvey Milk - Life . . . the Best Game in Town
5ive - Hesperus
Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
Ascend - The Fire Within
Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
Ocean - Pantheon Of The Lesser
Moss - Sub Templum
Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
The Goslings - Occasion
Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
Caïna - Temporary Antennae
Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
Melvins - Nude With Boots
UFOmammut - Idolum
Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
Morkobot - Morto
Trees - Lights Bane
The Austrasian Goat - pieces to oblivian
Cave - Hunt Like Devil
Coffins - Buried Death

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 25 January 2009 03:12 (fifteen years ago) link

My ballot:

Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
Harvey Milk - Life . . . the Best Game in Town
Wetnurse - Invisible City
Conifer - Crown Fire
Torche - Meanderthal
The Goslings - Occasion
UFOmammut - Idolum
Caïna - Temporary Antennae
Ocean - Pantheon Of The Lesser
Witch - Paralyzed
5ive - Hesperus
Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
Opeth - Watershed
Enslaved - Vertebrae
Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
Tyr - Land
Viking Skull - Doom Gloom Heartache & Whiskey

EZ Snappin, Sunday, 25 January 2009 03:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha. I was going to check out a couple things on the list. So even if that one isn't metal, another I look up might be.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 25 January 2009 08:53 (fifteen years ago) link

From that Thor wiki entry

Zombie Nightmare Actor, composer (1986)

This is, by a country mile, the worst film I have ever seen.

onimo, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:39 (fifteen years ago) link

So... I am going to hopefully find/listen to one of these a week. My plan:

Today, after the football (am currently listening to the Marnie Stern, but that doesn't count): Genghis Tron - Board Up the House (Relapse)

Tomorrow: Gojira - The Way of All Flesh (Listenable Records)

Tuesday: Boris - Smile (Diwphalanx Records/Southern Lord)

Wednesday: Earth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion’s Skull (Southern Lord)

Thursday: Wetnurse - Invisible City (Seventh Rule Recordings)

Friday: Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect

Saturday: (the no. 1 album) Torche - Meanderthal (Hydrahead (CD)/Robotic Empire(LP/Pic Disk)

Sunday: Harvey Milk - Life…the Best Game in Town (Hydra Head)

Also, I asked on autogoon about the rap list and i dunno...

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 25 January 2009 12:40 (fifteen years ago) link

It's gonna take me a year to digest this list.
Not sure when I'll find time for new stuff.
Guess I'll just be a year behind.

steampig67, Sunday, 25 January 2009 14:23 (fifteen years ago) link

my ballot:

Disfear - Live The Storm
Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
Coffins - Buried Death
Nachmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
5ive - Hesperus
Wetnurse - Invisible City
Withered - Folie Circulaire
Torche - Meanderthal
Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
Harvey Milk - Life . . . the Best Game in Town
Boris - Smile
Opeth - Watershed
Cynic - Traced In Air
Enslaved - Vertebrae
Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
Lair Of The Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
Motörhead - Motörizer
Meshuggah - obZen
Hate Eternal - Fury and Flames
Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between
Ocrilim - Annwn
Krallice – Krallice
Arsis - We Are the Nightmare
Earth - The Bees Made Honey...

mte, Sunday, 25 January 2009 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

It's gonna take me a year to digest this list.
Not sure when I'll find time for new stuff.
Guess I'll just be a year behind.

― steampig67,

I think Scott feels your pain. Didn't he say he couldn't keep up with new music as he had lots of old but great stuff to catch up on?

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 25 January 2009 20:04 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, one more stats thing. After a little more experimenting, I've come up with a way to calculate Kvltosis (a statistical measure of cultishness) from the poll data itself, basically by retabulating it with votes inversely weighted by voter-centricity. That is, the farther from the consensus a voter was, the more cultishness their votes represent. So here's the ranking of albums that got 3 or more votes, by cultishness.

1 - 0.683 - 54 - 3 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
2 - 0.582 - 54 - 3 - Graveyard - Graveyard
3 - 0.526 - 42 - 4 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
4 - 0.501 - 26 - 6 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
5 - 0.497 - 26 - 6 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
6 - 0.492 - 54 - 3 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
7 - 0.468 - 54 - 3 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
8 - 0.449 - 35 - 5 - Eluveitie - Slania
9 - 0.446 - 42 - 4 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
10 - 0.439 - 35 - 5 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
10 - 0.439 - 42 - 4 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
12 - 0.429 - 54 - 3 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
13 - 0.421 - 54 - 3 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
14 - 0.417 - 35 - 5 - Darkspace - III
15 - 0.413 - 42 - 4 - Tyr - Land
16 - 0.41 - 26 - 6 - Moss - Sub Templum
17 - 0.408 - 5 - 13 - Opeth - Watershed
18 - 0.407 - 54 - 3 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
19 - 0.404 - 24 - 7 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
20 - 0.398 - 26 - 6 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
21 - 0.397 - 15 - 8 - Cynic - Traced in Air
22 - 0.382 - 54 - 3 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
22 - 0.382 - 26 - 6 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
24 - 0.381 - 15 - 8 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
24 - 0.381 - 15 - 8 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
26 - 0.38 - 54 - 3 - Death Angel - Killing Season
26 - 0.38 - 26 - 6 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
28 - 0.379 - 15 - 8 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
29 - 0.374 - 14 - 9 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
30 - 0.372 - 54 - 3 - Morkobot - Morto
31 - 0.368 - 54 - 3 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
32 - 0.366 - 9 - 10 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
32 - 0.366 - 42 - 4 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
32 - 0.366 - 35 - 5 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
35 - 0.363 - 26 - 6 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
36 - 0.358 - 42 - 4 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
37 - 0.354 - 42 - 4 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
38 - 0.352 - 24 - 7 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
39 - 0.351 - 9 - 10 - Meshuggah - obZen
40 - 0.347 - 15 - 8 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
41 - 0.341 - 15 - 8 - Coffins - Buried Death
41 - 0.341 - 9 - 10 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
43 - 0.34 - 1 - 25 - Torche - Meanderthal
44 - 0.337 - 4 - 16 - Boris - Smile
44 - 0.337 - 54 - 3 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
46 - 0.336 - 7 - 11 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
46 - 0.336 - 42 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
48 - 0.329 - 35 - 5 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
49 - 0.328 - 6 - 12 - 5ive - Hesperus
49 - 0.328 - 42 - 4 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
51 - 0.326 - 35 - 5 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
52 - 0.325 - 54 - 3 - Trees - Lights Bane
53 - 0.323 - 54 - 3 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
54 - 0.322 - 9 - 10 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
55 - 0.319 - 35 - 5 - Witch - Paralyzed
56 - 0.316 - 54 - 3 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
56 - 0.316 - 15 - 8 - Krallice - Krallice
58 - 0.315 - 54 - 3 - Zebulon Pike - Intransience
59 - 0.314 - 54 - 3 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
60 - 0.312 - 2 - 19 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
61 - 0.311 - 7 - 11 - The Goslings - Occasion
62 - 0.31 - 54 - 3 - Jarboe - Mahakali
62 - 0.31 - 15 - 8 - UFOmammut - Idolum
64 - 0.309 - 26 - 6 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
65 - 0.306 - 54 - 3 - Ocrilim - Annwn
66 - 0.304 - 54 - 3 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
66 - 0.304 - 9 - 10 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
68 - 0.303 - 15 - 8 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
69 - 0.299 - 2 - 19 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
70 - 0.296 - 26 - 6 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
71 - 0.294 - 42 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm
72 - 0.287 - 42 - 4 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
73 - 0.28 - 42 - 4 - Motorhead - Motorizer

Normally I'd expect the poll winner to be the least cultish album, but since in this poll nearly everybody voted for it, it comes out in the middle almost by definition.

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 25 January 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, sorry, the numbers in that last table are:

Kvltosis Rank - Kvltosis - Poll Rank - Votes - Artist - Album

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 25 January 2009 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Dare you to do a rundown of sub-genre ;)
Doom
Drone
Death
Black
etc

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 25 January 2009 21:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok, my first metal experience since I was about 13 was a lot more enjoyable than I expected! On to tomorrow with Gojira then; I'm actually excited.

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:33 (fifteen years ago) link

That's so going to end up on the ilx comments taken out of context thread.

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:50 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

a hoy hoy, Sunday, 25 January 2009 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

Torche made the ILXOR Group Album Charts charts on Last.fm this week because of this poll !

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 00:42 (fifteen years ago) link

change you can believe in

roxymuzak, Monday, 26 January 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

it wasn't me.

Roxy, why you not add me to last.fm friend list? ugh!

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Monday, 26 January 2009 08:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I almost never use lastfm, it's blocked at work. Nothing personal.

roxymuzak, Monday, 26 January 2009 09:00 (fifteen years ago) link

;*(

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Monday, 26 January 2009 09:03 (fifteen years ago) link

torche album is dope-- thanks 4 this poll pfunk

gr8080, Monday, 26 January 2009 09:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I never know when grady is being serious or not.

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

a hoy hoy are you running a rap poll then?

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok lets compare this poll to

Decibel

40. Coffins, Buried Death (20 Buck Spin)
39. Withered, Folie Circulaire (Prosthetic)
38. Graveyard (Tee Pee)
37. North, What You Were (Cavity)
36. Decrepit Birth, Diminishing Between Worlds (Unique Leader)
35. Witch, Paralyzed (Tee Pee)
34. Aura Noir, Hades Rise (Tyrant Syndicate)
33. Cynic, Traced in Air (Season of Mist)
32. Meshuggah, obZen (Nuclear Blast)
31. This Comp Kills Fascists Vol. 1 (Relapse)
30. Samothrace, Life's Trade (20 Buck Spin)
29. Blacklisted, Heavier Than Heaven, Lonelier Than God (Deathwish, Inc.)
28. Bloodbath, The Fathomless Mastery (Peaceville)
27. Testament, The Formation of Damnation (Nuclear Blast)
26. 5ive, Hesperus (Tortuga)
25. Hennes Siste Host, Host (Init)
24. Gridlink, Amber Gray (Hydra Head)
23. Trap Them, Seizures in Barren Praise (Deathwish, Inc.)
22. Hour of 13 (Shadow Kingdom)
21. Hail of Bullets, Of Frost and War (Metal Blade)
20. Intronaut, Prehistoricisms (Century Media)
19. Gods And Queens (Robotic Empire)
18. Toxic Holocaust, An Overdose of Death (Relapse)
17. Esoteric, The Maniacal Vale (Season of Mist)
16. Enslaved, Vertebrae (Nuclear Blast)
15. Gojira, The Way of All Flesh (Prosthetic)
14. Pyramids (Hydra Head)
13. Amon Amarth, Twilight of the Thunder God (Metal Blade)
12. Krallice (Profound Lore)
11. Harvey Milk, Life . . . the Best Game in Town (Hydra Head)
10. Disfear, Live the Storm (Relapse)
9. Made Out of Babies, The Ruiner (The End)
8. Wetnurse, Invisible City (Seventh Rule)
7. Origin, Antithesis (Relapse)
6. Rotten Sound, Cycles (Spinefarm)
5. The Gates of Slumber, Conqueror (Profound Lore)
4. Opeth, Watershed (Roadrunner)
3. Genghis Tron, Board Up the House (Relapse)
2. Nachmystium, Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1 (Century Media)
1. Torche, Meanderthal (Hydra Head)

The Metal Edge Top 50 of 2008:

49. TIE: Motörhead, Motörizer/Prostitute Disfigurement, Descendants Of Depravity
48. Belphegor, Bondage Goat Zombie
47. In Flames, A Sense Of Purpose
46. Hate Eternal, Fury And Flames
45. Moonspell, Night Eternal
43. TIE: Iced Earth, The Crucible Of Man/Staind, The Illusion Of Progress
41. TIE: Eluveitie, Slania/Saviours, Into Abaddon
40. DragonForce, Ultra Beatdown
38. TIE: Blessed By A Broken Heart, Pedal To The Metal/Boris, Smile
37. Ayreon, 01011001
36. Into Eternity, The Incurable Tragedy
35. Cynic, Traced In Air
34. Intronaut, Prehistoricisms
33. Disfear, Live The Storm
32. Coffins, Buried Death
31. Gates Of Slumber, Conqueror
28. TIE: Annihilation Time, Annihilation Time III/Melvins, Nude With Boots/Trivium, Shogun
27. Equilibrium, Sagas
26. All That Remains, Overcome
25. Lair Of The Minotaur, War Metal Battle Master
23. TIE: Bleeding Through, Declaration/Mötley Crüe, Saints Of Los Angeles
22. Children Of Bodom, Blooddrunk
21. Made Out Of Babies, The Ruiner
20. GridLink, Amber Gray
19. Disturbed, Indestructible
17. TIE: Genghis Tron, Board Up The House/Wetnurse, Invisible City
16. The Sword, Gods Of The Earth
15. Judas Priest, Nostradamus
14. Neuraxis, The Thin Line Between
13. Krallice, Krallice
11. TIE: Cavalera Conspiracy, Inflikted/Torche, Meanderthal
10. Testament, The Formation Of Damnation
9. Enslaved, Vertebrae
8. Nachtmystium, Assassins: Black Meddle Pt. 1
7. Harvey Milk, Life…The Best Game In Town
6. Amon Amarth, Twilight Of The Thunder God
5. Gojira, The Way Of All Flesh
4. Slipknot, All Hope Is Gone
3. Meshuggah, obZen
2. Metallica, Death Magnetic
1. Opeth, Watershed

Kerrang
20 Johnny Truant - No Tears For The Creatures
19 Enslaved - Vertebrae
18 Nine Inch Nails - The Slip
17 AC/DC - Blck Ice
16 Meshuggah - Obzen
15 The Mars Volta
14 The Night Marchers - See You In Magic
13 Mogwai - The Hawk Is Howling
12 Bring Me The Horizon - Suicide Season
11 Weezer - Weezer
10 Alkaline Trio - Agony & Irony
09 Gojira - The Way Of All Flesh
08 Stars On Broadway - Stars On Broadway
07 Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
06 Slaves To Gravity - Scatter The Crow
05 The Bronx - The Bronx
04 Amon Amarth - Twilightt Of The Thunder god
03 Cancer Bats - Hail Destroyer
02 The Gaslight Anthem - The '59 Sound
01 Metallica - Death Magnetic

Terrorizer's Top 40

01. ENSLAVED - Vertebrae (Indie Recordings)
02. CYNIC - Traced In Air (Season Of Mist)
03. NACHTMYSTIUM - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1 (Candlelight)
04. GOJIRA - The Way Of All Flesh (Listenable)
05. TORCHE - Meanderthal (Hydra Head)
06. MESHUGGAH - ObZen (Nuclear Blast)
07. OPETH - Watershed (Roadrunner)
08. METALLICA - Death Magnetic (Warner)
09. BLOODBATH - The Fathomless Mastery (Peaceville)
10. ESOTERIC - The Maniacal Vale (Season Of Mist)
11. EARTH - The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull (Southern Lord)
12. AC/DC - Black Ice (Sony)
13. ASVA - What You Don't Know Is Frontier (Southern Lord)
14. HAIL OF BULLETS - ...Of Frost And War (Metal Blade)
15. SEPTICFLESH - Communion (Season Of Mist)
16. DARKTHRONE - Dark Thrones And Black Flags (Peaceville)
17. LEVIATHAN - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life (Moribund)
18. GRAND MAGUS - Iron Will (Rise Above)
19. HARVEY MILK - Life... The Best Game In Town (Hydra Head)
20. SATYRICON - The Age Of Nero (Roadrunner)
21. DEICIDE - Til Death Do Us Part
22. TRAP THEM - Seizures in barren praise
23. MOSS - Sub Templum
24. MELVINS - Nude With Boots
25. GENGHIS TRON - board up the house
26. AURA NOIR - Hades Rise
27. VIRUS - The Black Flux
28. BLOOD CEREMONY - Blood Ceremony
29. ORIGIN - Antithesis
30. JEX THOTH - Jex Thoth
31. ENFORCER - Into The Night
32. MOTORHEAD - Motorizer
33. KRALLICE - Krallice
34. TOXIC HOLOCAUST - An Overdose Of Death
35. WITHERED - Folie Circulaire
36. MISERY INDEX - Traitors
37. BURST - Lazarus Bird
38. CAVALERA CONSPIRACY - Inflikted
39. AMON AMARTH - Twilight Of The Thundergod
40. PORTRAIT - Portrait

Rank - Points - Votes - #1s - Artist - Album

1 - 479 - 25 - 2 - Torche - Meanderthal
2 - 357 - 19 - 3 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
3 - 276 - 19 - 0 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
4 - 227 - 16 - 0 - Boris - Smile
5 - 212 - 13 - 1 - Opeth - Watershed
6 - 203 - 11 - 1 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
7 - 183 - 10 - 2 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
8 - 179 - 12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus
9 - 165 - 10 - 2 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
10 - 163 - 10 - 0 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion
12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen
13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice
17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air
20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm
42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
52 - 47 - 5 - 0 - Eluveitie - Slania
53 - 46 - 4 - 0 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
54 - 44 - 4 - 0 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
54 - 44 - 3 - 0 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Conifer - Crown Fire
58 - 41 - 3 - 0 - Jarboe - Mahakali
61 - 40 - 2 - 0 - Brave - Monuments
61 - 40 - 3 - 0 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
63 - 39 - 3 - 1 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
64 - 38 - 4 - 0 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
67 - 37 - 2 - 0 - Sex/Vid - Communal Living
68 - 36 - 2 - 0 - Girlschool - Legacy
69 - 35 - 4 - 0 - Motorhead - Motorizer
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Death Angel - Killing Season
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Ocrilim - Annwn
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Septicflesh - Communion
74 - 33 - 2 - 1 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade
74 - 33 - 3 - 0 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
76 - 32 - 2 - 1 - Equilibrium - Sagas
76 - 32 - 4 - 0 - Tyr - Land
78 - 31 - 2 - 1 - Pyramids - Pyramids
78 - 31 - 2 - 0 - Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Ayreon - 01011001
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Candlemass - Lucifer Rising
82 - 29 - 3 - 0 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
82 - 29 - 2 - 0 - Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aura Noir - Hades Rise
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Morkobot - Morto
89 - 27 - 2 - 1 - In This Moment - The Dream
89 - 27 - 3 - 0 - Graveyard - Graveyard
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Burst - Lazarus Bird
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - The Lizards - archeology
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within
97 - 23 - 2 - 0 - Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Everon - North
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Legless - Finding Mr. Perfect
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
97 - 23 - 3 - 0 - Trees - Lights Bane
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Capricorns - River, Bear Your Bones
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Helix - The Power of Rock and Roll
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Moho - Chotocabra
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Orakle - Tourments & perdition
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ayat - Six Years of Dormant Hatred
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - The Devil's Blood - Come, Reap
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Ihsahn - angL
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Taint - Secrets and Lies
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ted Nugent - Sweden Rocks
112 - 20 - 1 - 0 - Colour Haze - All
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - Atavist/Nadja - II: Points at Infinity
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - DragonForce - Ultra Beatdown
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - The Human Abstract - Midheaven
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Into Eternity - The Incurable Tragedy
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Oceans of Sadness - The Arrogance of Ignorance
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Cave - Hunt Like Devil
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Celestia - Frigidiis Apotheosia: Abstinencia Genesiis
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Grand Magus - Iron Will
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Mouth of the Architect - Quietly
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Night Ranger - Hole In the Sun
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Salome - Salome
124 - 17 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel & Nadja - Christ Send Light
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Disturbed - Indestructible
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Gyongyver - Vilagok Viraga
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Janvs - Vega
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Klabautamann - Our Journey Through the Woods
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Ondo - Mahavishnu
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Scar Symmetry - Holographic Universe
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Wrath of the Weak - Alogon
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - The Death of Her Money - Spirit of the Stairwell
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Keep of Kalessin - Kolossus
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Martriden - The Unsettling Dark
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Other Fools - 12 More Lies
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Zozobra - Bird of Prey
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Arkona - Ot Serdca K Nebu
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Desalvo - Mood Poisoner
137 - 15 - 2 - 0 - Origin - Antithesis
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - The Austrasian Goat - pieces to oblivian
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Early Man - Beware the Circling Fin
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Hate Eternal - Fury and Flames
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Hey Colossus - Happy Birthday
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Noekk - The Minstrel's Curse
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Monolith Deathcult - Trivmvirate
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Mount Logan - Mount Logan
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Austrian Death Machine - Total Brutal
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Don Caballero - Punkgasm
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Tecumseh - Avalanche and Inundation
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Daylight Dies - Lost to the Living
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Elder - Elder
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - The Haunted - Versus
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Mourning Beloveth - A Disease for the Ages
150 - 11 - 2 - 0 - Pentemple - 0))) Presents
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Arckanum - Antikosmos
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Black Shape of Nexus (B.son) - Microbarome Meetings
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Catley, Bob - Immortal
156 - 10 - 2 - 0 - Guapo - Elixirs
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Akimbo - Jersey Shores
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Amassfer - Slaves For Life
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Draconian - Turning Season Within
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Fiftywatthead - Fogcutter
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Nadja - The Bungled And the Botched
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Textures - Silhouettes
166 - 8 - 1 - 0 - Lantlos - Lantlos
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Becoming the Archetype - Dichotomy
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Isole - Bliss of Solitude
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - In Mourning - Shrouded Divine
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - The Lamp of Thoth - Portents, Omens and Doom
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Viking Skull - Doom Gloom Heartache & Whiskey
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cavalera Conspiracy - Inflikted
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cursed - III
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Dalriada - Szelek
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Hyatari - They will surface
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Khold - Hundre a Gammal
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Gods And Queens - S/T
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Heavy Winged - Alive in My Mouth
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - My Silent Wake - A Garland of Tears
182 - 3 - 2 - 0 - Poisonblack - A Dead Heavy Day
182 - 3 - 1 - 0 - White Lion - Return of the Pride
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - The Amenta - nOn
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Arsis - We Are the Nightmare
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Farmakon - Robin
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Cor Scorpii - Monument
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Indian - Slights and Abuse / the Sycophant
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Metsatoll - Iivakivi
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Suspyre - When Time Fades...

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe Glenn can run some stats comparing, but I'd assume the Decibel list was closest to ours.

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

rolling autogoon seems to nay say the idea, and given a bit of thought, I don't think it would be worth it this late, after so many lists, and people are warn out on 2008 lists etc.. Next year I will though.

Just check out that ABN record and the Guilty Simpson and you're set, really.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 26 January 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

well they still said they would contribute a list, and im sure those who dont post on that thread would contribute too. That's what happened with this poll, a lot of the contributors werent rolling metal thread posters. Some were lurkers who i dont know on ilx. So this kind of email poll does get a decent turn out. 30 was more than I expected. A rap poll would get a lot more i reckon.
You should give it a go, it will help get people discovering stuff they wouldnt always know about. As far as I can see only a few of the usual suspects will get in the ilx poll if P&J is anything to go by.
I'd say have a go doing a rap poll!

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 17:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok, fuck it. Tomorrow I'll start it up.

a hoy hoy, Monday, 26 January 2009 17:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Metal Edge has 29 things that are in our top 100. Decibel and Terrorizer each have 25. Kerrang has 5.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 26 January 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Interesting. Metal Edge has really changed since Phil took over as editor then. (As I said before Metal Edge isn't available in Smiths anymore despite it always having been until a year or so ago).

Not surprised at the lack of Kerrang stuff.

What about the top 50? How many are in that?

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 19:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Metal Edge has 29 things in common because nearly all the writers for that magazine post here.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, Phil didn't vote as he said he forgot, I know you write for it but who else? (and don't you all write for Decibel too?) I only know of one Terrorizer writer here (who voted). Does Stevie Chick still write for Kerrang? (not that he voted as far as i'm aware)

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Metal Edge, Decibel and Terrorizer each have a 21-allbum overlap with this poll's top 50. Terrorizer overlaps 15 with this poll's top 25, the other two 14.

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 26 January 2009 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks for that Glenn!! Very interesting.
Going to give this Cynic album a spin, it's on spotify. Quite handy! If you're on spotify then check out the albums from our poll that are on it(not licensed to usa/canada yet im afraid)

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Which ones are on it (if you already know it saves me doing 100 searches)?

onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't looked. I just remembered Ned, I think it was saying, Cynic were a bit proggy. I'm surprised tho, no death metal at all. It's definitely prog metal with clean singing. Not what I expected at all.

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Torche arent on it

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Cheers, just found it, I'll give that a quick listen then see what else I can find. I did search for the other day and found a few of the artists but it was mostly older material.

onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost obv

onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll try make a playlist of what's on it but I dont expect many.

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link

It's definitely prog metal with clean singing.

There's some growly and distorted stuff on there as well (on the second track). Allmusic review mentions falsetto as well - may as well get the full set...

onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I can see this growing on me. Not sure about the futuristic vocal distortions though (when I say futuristic I mean what counted as futuristic in 1982).

onimo, Monday, 26 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

If there are other Terrorizer writers here they are very much on the downlow. I wouldn't say my tastes in metal are that typical of the other writers and/or what gets covered in the mag, anyhoo

I'm Throwing Small Arms Around Powys (DJ Mencap), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

All I could find in the top 50
http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/1KM6wdlCspiSE4YUk3i454

the worst poster on ilx fwiw (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 26 January 2009 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

ILXors who write for Metal Edge: me, Ned Raggett, Adrien Begrand, Jeff T., Jonathan Lundeen, Matt Cibula, and Scott Seward did when I first took over but then he kinda faded out. I wish he'd come back.

unperson, Monday, 26 January 2009 22:23 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for the playlist pfunkboy I'll have a wee listen tomorrow if I get the chance.

onimo, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

No problem Onimo.
I found the Gojira very boring.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Hey pfunk 100% serious- this time the jokes on me I guess

gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Well Grady, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 08:37 (fifteen years ago) link

well i enjoyed the music more than your nerdy poll but still thanks dude <3

gr8080, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link

for comparison purposes, the rock-a-rolla top 40:

1. Harvey Milk – Life…The Best Game in Town
2. Earth – The Bees Made Honey in the Lion’s Skull
3. Melvins – Nude with Boots
4. Dub Trio – Another Sound is Dying
5. Asva – What You Don’t know is Frontier
6. Grails – Doomsdayer’s Holiday
7. Secret Chiefs 3 – Xaphan: Book of Angel
8. Kayo Dot – Blue Lambency Downward
9. Mike Patton – A Perfect Place
10. Racebanon – Acid or Blood
11. Torche – Meanderthal
12. Portishead – Third
13. The Mars Volta – The Bedlam in Goliath
14. Lustmord – [Other]
15. Zach Hill – Astrological Straits
16. Steve Von Till – A Grave is a Grim Horse
17. Ascend – Ample Fire Within
18. Akimbo – Jersey Shores
19. Conifer – Corown Fire
20. Bohren & Der Club of Gore – Dolores
21. Meshuggah – Obzen
22. Philip Jeck – Sano
23. UFOmammut – Idolum
24. Wildildlife – Six
25. Moha! – One Way Ticket to Candyland
26. Helms Alee – Night Terror
27. Mogwai – The Hawk is Howling
28. Krallice – Krallice
29. Jarboe – Mahakali
30. Hey Colossus – Happy Birthday
31. Merzbow – Anicca
32. Gnaw Their Tongues – An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
33. Lucky Dragons – Dream Island Laughing Language
34. Jucifer – L’Autrichienne
35. Mothlite – The Flax of Reverie
36. Boris – Smile
37. No Age – Nouns
38. Black Sun – Paralyser
39. Subtle – Exitingarm
40. Prurient – And Still Waiting

m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:31 (fifteen years ago) link

does anyone else find it interesting that "metalheads" be enjoying Portishead so?

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:43 (fifteen years ago) link

It's not surprising. Esp as Geoff runs a doom/psych label.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I had to draw the line at nominating them here though. Marnie Stern getting votes annoyed the troo metal nerds enough as it was.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:45 (fifteen years ago) link

third is particularly heavy on the ominous. makes sense to me...

m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:47 (fifteen years ago) link

Also lots "metalheads" listen to other stuff than metal.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 09:53 (fifteen years ago) link

ILX RAP POLL 2008 NOMINATIONS & DISCUSSION THREAD

ILX RAP POLL 2008 NOMINATIONS & DISCUSSION THREAD

Plz nominate.

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 13:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Nice one. Cant nominate but I look forward to checking out some stuff!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 27 January 2009 17:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Krallice sound like Glenn Branca at times!

Sundar, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

you should check out the ocrilim album, if you haven't already. branca-ness abounds.

m the g, Tuesday, 27 January 2009 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess i should check out some branca then, b/c i like the ocrilim.

mte, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 00:12 (fifteen years ago) link

You should.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 06:30 (fifteen years ago) link

will do. any suggestions where to start?

mte, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:25 (fifteen years ago) link

autogoons called off the rap poll.

ah well.

ok, so I listened to a couple of records and thought "Hmm.. this is OK. I'll guess I will make it to the end of my week of metal and maybe check out rolling metal once every couple of months instead of never". But now I am listening to the Harvey Milk and really fucking enjoying it. So now I am wondering if the other records were just canon fodder to ease me in, if this is a 1 off or if I may actually really start liking this genre i'd written off forever?

So, what should I listen to next if like the Harvey Milk and Genghis Tron, not so much the Gojira and... umm, I still have no idea what I think of the more droney stuff. Nice in idea but actually a bit boring? Nice background music?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't like the Gojira disc either; too much breast-beating hardcore punk in the vocals.

the ones i've liked thus far, to one degree or another: the
Nachtmystium, Esoteric, Amon Amarth and Earth discs.

i didn't like the Torche very much (too remminicent of Helmet for my tastes bone-weary tastes), but i have the feeling you'd probably dig it. also, i found the Harvey Milk disc kinda annoying. go figure. next.

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Cheers. I downloaded it the same time I got the others, and I'm sure i'll listen to it before the week ends.

One thing I'm going to do - I'm not going to listen to records with tacky, horrible, 'shock' covers. It's not shocking, it's just a bit lame and just feels me with no desire at all to listen to their records. Is this common with any metal fans and will I be missing out on anything so amazing that I should go against such a statement?

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe too obvious, but if you liked the harvey milk, check out some melvins records. I really like the recent-ish (a) senile animal. two drummers, good times.

and check out the back catalogs! I like special wishes/dead mountain mouth better than the latest harvey milk/genghis tron records.

original bgm, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:18 (fifteen years ago) link

and it depends what you'd consider a "shock" cover. I don't recall anything too tasteless on this list, for example.

original bgm, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:19 (fifteen years ago) link

i think that question would best be directed at the fine folks on the rolling metal thread (Scott Seward in particular; i'm pretty sure he's the kind of fellow who appreciates the truly tasteless cover art of some extreme metal discs).

xxp

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Ha, I just skimmed the thread and... didn't this used to have more albums on it? I dunno, covers with really limp "oh, look at all this blood/guts/crap like that, we are soooo shocking" bullshit. It just seems like such a shitty schtick to have, especially considering most people have grown accustomed to such a high tolerance of gore and what not.

Cheers on the recommendations though.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:25 (fifteen years ago) link

(I mean, I understand, and hell, maybe even appreciate the proper death metal "hey, this is our guitarist's actual brains all over the floor" covers the same way I love the geto boys cover where bushwick bill has just been shot - but most of it is just a bit silly and totally puts me off wanting to listen to their music.)

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:27 (fifteen years ago) link

it's a new thread (2009 edition). so there's really not that much to discuss/post jpg's of just yet. good for getting in on the ground floor, tho.

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:33 (fifteen years ago) link

again i say cheers. i have bookmarked that bitch for the future.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:34 (fifteen years ago) link

next up - rolling country.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

on the cover tip... do you like horror movies?

the great majority of these covers strike me more as horror movie/ec comics worship playing to an audience with a similar mindset... not really what you're describing. coffins, for an example that made the list.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61uHSS27PAL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

original bgm, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The whole gory album cover thing is less a conscious attempt to shock at this point and more of a genre convention for certain strains of death metal/grindcore. I would say that skipping over metal albums with "disgusting" covers is sort of akin to not listening to any rapper who uses the n-word -- i.e., needlessly limiting.

i fuck mathematics, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:38 (fifteen years ago) link

That stuff I'm cool with, although it doesn't immediately make me interested. Maybe because I'm new to it all, the stuff that has sparked my interest hasen't been the stuff that looks like that though, whereas the torche etc. are just begging to be listened to.

I don't find them disgusting, it just seems a bit silly. I 100% know this a ridiculous stance btw.

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:39 (fifteen years ago) link

gotcha.

mathematics otm, basically.

original bgm, Wednesday, 28 January 2009 15:42 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah i was going to say, the Racebannon cover is prob the most euuuurrggghhh cover on this years list, and i guarantee that it will not sound like anything you might expect it to using your cover gross = sounds like this rule.

Neddy Nooooodles (John Justen), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

hah i bought the Racebannon cd in Braehead shopping centre today from HMV. Just the fact they had it I was enough for me to get it rather than getting the vinyl from somewhere and getting charged a fortune for shipping.
re: album covers, i've NEVER liked that kind of metal cover. But if you don't buy stuff because you dont like teh artwork, then you're going to miss out on some terrific albums. That coffins album mentioned is ACE doom/death.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 28 January 2009 18:45 (fifteen years ago) link

OK I don't like Gojira.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 January 2009 00:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Just for reference, I'm a pretty serious metal fan and I didn't really like anything in this poll above #13, and only 5 things in the top 30. Tastes vary. That's much of what's fun about them...

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 January 2009 01:57 (fifteen years ago) link

serious question: which do you like more-- metal or numbers

gr8080, Thursday, 29 January 2009 02:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Metal, but numbers pay way better.

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 29 January 2009 04:20 (fifteen years ago) link

do you like mathmetal? (j/k)

Keep The Dogs Away (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 January 2009 10:01 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted in Pazz & Jop. 5/7 of my votes were for metal albums.
http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/769868

But, sadly, I didn't make it to this poll. Next year I promise to vote and write blurbs!

Nate Carson, Thursday, 29 January 2009 11:05 (fifteen years ago) link

only seven albums and one track?

(i really dig two of your picks, btw.)

Keep The Dawgs Away (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 January 2009 11:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I still haven't heard that Jesse Sykes album, Nate. I really should check it out.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 January 2009 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link

man, i loved Boris' Smile! what should i check out next from them?

Keep The Dawgs Away (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 January 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I suppose you should try Pink then. But early Boris is still superior to both.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 January 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

ok then, i'll check out both.

Keep The Dawgs Away (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 January 2009 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

If you wanna check out old but accessible Boris then start with Heavy Rocks better songs than on Pink and Smile.
If you want to check out more Experimental Boris then it has to be Flood or Absolutego which is Boris at their very best.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 January 2009 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I think amplifier worship is still my fave boris. melvins-y sludge. flood is good too.

original bgm, Thursday, 29 January 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

The Rainbow album is really good as well, if you're looking for more accessible Boris stuff.

A. Begrand, Thursday, 29 January 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

thanks, guys. i think i need to check out their entire catalog--although i'm kinda weary of anything that sounds like the Melvins (never did like them much).

Keep The Dawgs Away (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

HERETIC

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:05 (fifteen years ago) link

well, the drone stuff like dronevil doesnt sound like Melvins

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

heh

Keep The Dawgs Away (Ioannis), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

2008 was an alright year for metal, i have to say.

as for Boris, i can't get into the mix of the new album! dude's vocals are just not strong enough to be featured so prominently. also, Dronevil, Flood, Absolutego ... that was the good stuff. now, it's schlocky Stooges/Melvins meets psych rock thing that i can't get into.

although, admittedly, some of the songs on Pink were really great. and Rainbow was amazing.

--Albums (full lengths and cassettes)--
Asva - What You Don't Know is Frontier
Deathrow/Moloch - Echoes of Eternity
Menace Ruine - The Die is Cast
Moss - Sub Templum
Monument of Urns - Absence
Smorzando - Smrad
Thou/Leech - We Pass Like Night, From Land to Land

--Reissues (albums, not comps)--
Paysage D'Hiver - Kristall & Isa
Vérmyapre Kommando - s/t (demo)
Watain - Casus Luciferi

Cameron Octigan, Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

The new stuff is definitely stooges inspired but not as good as Heavy Rocks was (inspired by stooges as well as stoner rock). I prefer Pink when it's more shoegazy.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 January 2009 19:40 (fifteen years ago) link

I think amplifier worship is still my fave boris

It's a great album too.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 29 January 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link

amp worship definitely has a melvins thing going on but I wouldn't let that put you off if you're not a fan. they sound like their own band on it.

also, a warning: somebody smashed into my car during a blizzard while I was listening to this album. just saying.

original bgm, Friday, 30 January 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Wonder what they were listening to :)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 January 2009 09:55 (fifteen years ago) link

Given up on Gojira. Cynic was ok but dont think I could get into it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 January 2009 16:01 (fifteen years ago) link

a hoy hoy , i see the rap poll is go then. Nice one.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 January 2009 16:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Umm... possibly. If we could get more than, ha, 5 people nominate then it could work!

a hoy hoy, Friday, 30 January 2009 16:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Well now deej has got it started I think it will keep ticking over. Remember to keep bumping it so it's near the top of the page.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 January 2009 16:42 (fifteen years ago) link

and remember that if a few people nominate stuff that others were going to ,it looks like hardly anyone is interested. But those guys will still email you their ballots. Just keep the thread at the top of new answers and everything should be ok. It also helps to generate discussion on the nomination/voting threads too.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 30 January 2009 17:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Not sure about this Opeth. I think i prefer the other 2 I heard. Its ok i suppose.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 31 January 2009 00:01 (fifteen years ago) link

HYDRAHEAD PLEASE BRING OUT THE HARVEY MILK VINYL YOU BASTARDS

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 31 January 2009 01:20 (fifteen years ago) link

On that note I just ordered Harvey Milk - The Singles 2xLP from Relapse.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 31 January 2009 23:05 (fifteen years ago) link

ATH has it cheaper BUT shipping is a lot more expensive. Anyone else got this? Or is it just out?(the repress)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 February 2009 00:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe ask rolling metal.

roxymuzak, Sunday, 1 February 2009 00:31 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, i just posted here because i mentioned Harvey Milk last night

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 1 February 2009 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

second thoughts - i've just recently listened to (bought) the wetnurse and hammers of misfortune records mentioned above. and had i heard them earlier, both would probably have come in at or near the top of my list. that hammers double thing might end up being my very favorite record(s) on this list, up there with nachtmystium. still trying to get my head around wetnurse, so that's a tougher call.

problem with trying to put together lists is that i often play catch-up at the end of the year, based on what i think i've missed, and as a result, don't have enough time to fully process stuff. i mean, i was intrigued by moonspell and dir en grey for a few weeks, almost on a dare, but they both got real annoying real fast. or i dunno, the "charmingly horrible" became just plain horrible (but still intermittently awesome). something like that. and while gojira is cool, i'd probably rank it quite a few slots lower now that it's had some time to sink in. same goes for coffins, but in reverse. i like it more every time i hear it.

doesn't really matter, just that i'm experiencing lister's remorse.

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Wednesday, 4 February 2009 16:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Both Wetnurse and Hammers Of Misfortune are great.

Cuntry Matters (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Onimo> hows the listening of the albums coming? (or indeed anyone else doing the same?)

Cuntry Matters (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:39 (fifteen years ago) link

a hoy hoy > how is the hip hop poll coming? Post the url on the trax poll as everyone is reading it for the results today and ppl are complaining about the lack of rap in it. So I think you will find you get lots more noms! Go for it!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

i dunno. i think it's just not gonna happen. if there was more enthusiasm before i went back to school, it would have been great but i think starting it so late was the problem. next year maybe :)

i'm starting to really get into some of these records though. i have listened to the harvey milk/torche/boris a couple times and like them a lot. still not sure about the jesu/earth i got, and still haven't listened to the wetnurse. That's from my initial handful i grabbed anyway.

one thing i noticed - and like my crazy thing about covers - none of it seemed as heavy as i thought it would be. nothing seems remotely close my cliched idea of just STUPIDLY HUGE RIFFS + SCREAMING/SHOUTING etc. as metal and my reasonable knowledge of heavier and sludgier indie/punk/etc. doesn't seem that far away. So whereas I thought I'd be diving into an ocean I knew nothing about, I already had my feet in the water. Cheers anyway.

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

none of it seemed as heavy as i thought it would be. nothing seems remotely close my cliched idea of just STUPIDLY HUGE RIFFS + SCREAMING/SHOUTING etc. as metal and my reasonable knowledge of heavier and sludgier indie/punk/etc.

LISTEN TO THE WETNURSE

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Onimo> hows the listening of the albums coming?

So far from the final 100 I think I've heard

Harvey Milk
Earth
Gojira
Cynic
Marnie Stern
Opeth
Torche
Meshuggah
Boris
Sunn 0)))
Grails

Maybe a couple of others I can't remember. Can't see me ever being more than an occasional metal listener but I'm enjoying working my way through and I'll no doubt find a few things that'll merit repeat listening.

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Favourites so far?

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

In no particular order: Cynic, Opeth, Earth, Boris, Sunn 0)))

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Sunn0))) and Boris weren't new to me, the others were.

super shareaholic firefox add (onimo), Friday, 6 February 2009 17:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Were the Harvey Milk vocals too much for you?

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 18:02 (fifteen years ago) link

Though I think they fit the music.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

a hoy hoy, wetnurse is a good mention. also, try out the belphegor.

born of nililism and iconoclasm (John Justen), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

it's been added to my ever growing list of things i'll eventually get around to listening too. :)

. (a hoy hoy), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:08 (fifteen years ago) link

So far from the final 100 I think I've heard

Harvey Milk
Earth
Gojira
Cynic
Marnie Stern
Opeth
Torche
Meshuggah
Boris
Sunn 0)))
Grails

Maybe a couple of others I can't remember. Can't see me ever being more than an occasional metal listener but I'm enjoying working my way through and I'll no doubt find a few things that'll merit repeat listening.

This is really similar to my short list of stuff I've heard, also. You owe it to yourself to check out the Melvins album and also the Nachtmystium, both are great and pretty accessible and interesting for us "occasional" metal listeners.

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link

second to recommendableness of nachtmystium to non-super-metal folks. esp anyone with like for epic, vaguely psych-proggy rock musics

Calling All Creeps! (contenderizer), Friday, 6 February 2009 19:16 (fifteen years ago) link

lots of psych

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 6 February 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

At high volumes it's a kind of druggy, disoriented psych that for some reason works REALLY well with what they're doing on this record.

ilxor, Friday, 6 February 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like the vocals on it

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Who all voted in the main ILX Albums poll as well as this one? I wonder how the albums from here will place (if any)

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 00:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyone?

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:42 (fifteen years ago) link

hahaha

roxymuzak, Saturday, 7 February 2009 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

I did. Nine of the ones I voted for here made it on to my general ballot.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 7 February 2009 03:17 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted for Boris, Earth, Melvins here and in the regular poll also.

Should have voted Gutter Twins, but wasn't nominated...

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 05:27 (fifteen years ago) link

It was!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 7 February 2009 17:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh, it was?

Fuck.

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Oh well.

ilxor, Saturday, 7 February 2009 23:08 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah but as a self-titled as I messed up the nomination hehe

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

I forgot to vote for it though.
I'll post my ilx list here since noones likely to have ventured over to this thread (even tho i did post it in the original voting thread)

Ranked albums:

Torche - Meanderthal
Grouper - Dragging A Dead Dear Up The Hill
Portishead - Third
Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
Harvey Milk - Life... The Best Game In Town
Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
Bug, The - London Zoo
Lau Nau - Nukkuu
Paavoharju - Laulu Laakson Kukista
Woods Family Creeps - Woods Family Creeps
Growing - All The Way
Earth - The Bees Made Honey In The Lion's Skull
Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled (Gnarled Forest)
James Blackshaw - Litany Of Echoes
Josephine Foster - This Coming Gladness
Goslings - Occasion
Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
Melvins - Nude With Boots
Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
Cave - Hunt Like Devil

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

9 from my metal list. Didn't realise I had voted nearly half "metal".

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted in the general poll, too. Would have filed my real 10-metal/10-non-metal ballot, but I missed nominating one of my non-metal choices, and my 11th metal choice was available, so 11 and 9...

glenn mcdonald, Sunday, 8 February 2009 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

Will you be doing stats comparing ilx album poll and metal poll?

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 8 February 2009 04:23 (fifteen years ago) link

We might find out tomorrow if any albums from this poll makes ILX albums poll.
Last year High On Fire and Jesu cracked the top 50, Om was 31 and Alcest was no 26!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 February 2009 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link

Boris at no 50!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 9 February 2009 18:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Nothing else so far :(

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 01:52 (fifteen years ago) link

ok youre still on this

lol (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 05:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Er--on what planet is Marnie Stern even remotely metal?

i, grey, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 07:23 (fifteen years ago) link

on planet shred.

m the g, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 08:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Enough metal people liked it enough to vote for it. So what's the problem?

Portishead would've got plenty of votes too if it had been in(I drew the line at allowing thm nominated though as I know some people would vote for it and nothing else.) Geoff barrow loves his doom/psych/stoner/drone and has a record label devoted to it! I know a lot of metal folks into them. Some metalheads are open minded you know.
Infact most of the aphex twin and squarepusher fans I know are metalheads.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

okay, so aphex twin and squarepusher should also be in the METAL ALBUMS OF THE YEAR POLL, clearly.

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:34 (fifteen years ago) link

hah, that's not what I said.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I only heard a bit of 'Worship Me Or Die' or whatever that Marnie album is called, but the bit I heard could have reasonably been deemed Van Halen dickwaving if you didn't know who was waving it, so it's legit imo

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am I selling cardamom or am I selling thyme (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:48 (fifteen years ago) link

i still just plain dont get the love for marnie stern, metal or not. shit just sounds awful to me.

LVL 12 rigorous chaotic normalcy cleric (jjjusten), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 16:50 (fifteen years ago) link

the lex was in agreement with you jj

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link

noooooooooooooo

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link

that was his reaction to finding out about 2 girls one cup

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Earth at no 33!!

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 01:25 (fifteen years ago) link

If Stern is in the running for best metal something-or-other then yeah, Aphex Twin for best ELP impressionist. I mean, they both use synths, so clearly...

i, grey, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 06:40 (fifteen years ago) link

loooooooool @ Herman's enthusiasm on the other thread. If only people did that with every album, I'd have an actual idea of what half those records are. Personally, I get the Earth disc, it's nice and all, but there just seems... I dunno, something lacking. I think i'll go back to it but as 'nice' is all i can come up with, I think i'll only be going back because i can't actually afford to go buy lots of records.

kafka is poking about into the deepest (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 08:56 (fifteen years ago) link

The one Marnie Stern thing I heard made her sound like a Sylvia Juncosa for the 00's.

Frank Sumatra (NickB), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

ouch.

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:18 (fifteen years ago) link

a hoy hoy keep listening to the Earth album. It will sink in when you go back to it like someone said above.

Onimo how is your listening to the list coming along?

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I will. It's just remarkable I am semi regularly listening to any metal, and bookmarked rolling metal (although i have no idea what people are talking about - i guess it'll take a while to sink in) considering I'd written the entire genre. :)

cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:26 (fifteen years ago) link

eh, i listen to a lot of metal and i dont normally really know whats going on on rolling metal either (i think a lot of this has to do w/most of you being hooked up with critic streams and promo stuff, tbh)

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm not. I'm not a critic or on mailing lists.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:33 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, rolling metal is mostly useless for me, cuz it seems all to take place in shorthand, as an ongoing convo between a bunch of people who all get and listen to basically every metal album in the universe. so it's a constant stream of:

got THIS [picture]

yeah, it's good!

got THIS [picture]

yeah, it's good!

no, it's not

got THIS [picture]

yeah, it's good! hey did you listen to THIS yet?

no, but i got THIS [picture]...

noticing the cloud come (contenderizer), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok, so how do you actually find out about it all then?

cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:36 (fifteen years ago) link

IMPORTANT NOTE: in no way whatsoever am i complaining about the rolling threads, they just tend to leave me in the dust most of the time.

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link

this problem is compounded by the fact that i live in a major metropolitan area with zero (0) record shops that dont look down their nose at metal as a genre. particularly sad because we had one of the greatest metal focused ones ever until the owner got cancer.

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

Ok, so how do you actually find out about it all then?

Buying stuff, knowing bands by previous albums so downloading new ones until they come out on vinyl. Knowing lots of people on slsk etc who get stuff or receommend it. Reading message boards like Doomed Forever (Used to be Southern Lord message board), stonerrock.com, viva la vinyl and yes, ILM.

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, I've had an overload of new music with this and the other poll, so when my brain stops resembling mush, I will start trying to figure it all out.

cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 19:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Onimo how is your listening to the list coming along?

I'm working my way through the main albums poll so I'll see what crossover there is then hopefully come back to this list at some point.

I do need some time to listen to my old goth tunes you know!

ducking kiosk monkey (onimo), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Old goths never die they just....?

Officer Electro-Dribble (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

if that isnt an invitation for the "they just smell that way" punchline i dont know what is.

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Thursday, 12 February 2009 01:00 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, rolling metal is mostly useless for me, cuz it seems all to take place in shorthand, as an ongoing convo between a bunch of people who all get and listen to basically every metal album in the universe.

SO TRUE, except it's like only stuff from labels that can afford/want to send out promos to big publications.

dunt renaissance (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 12 February 2009 03:26 (fifteen years ago) link

And streams from the rest?

Officer Electro-Dribble (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 14:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Mainly seems to be the biggest metal labels that are doing streams in my experience

am I selling cardamom or am I selling thyme (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 12 February 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

UK vs US difference?

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:36 (fifteen years ago) link

Torche in the ILX albums poll at no 26 btw(with 3 no1 votes).
Sadly it looks like Harvey Milk may have missed out.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I ranked the Harvey Milk much higher than the Torche - 6th vs. 17th. That might help it, but I'm afraid you're probably right.

EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

i didn't rank my list, and voted for both of them, so its still possible.

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:51 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd be surprised if it beat it. I guess Boris & Earth and Torche have more crossover appeal. *shakes fist @ Pitchfork*

But you never know, if it's going to make it, it will be in the next few. But Torche got 3 #1s. Cant see Harvey Milk getting that.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Kerrang doesn't cover any of these bands. Isis dont get a look in either or Pelican. If hey did im sure these bands could be quite successful. Guess you have to be on a major label to get in it.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

so pitchfork >>> Kerrang is sadly true.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 12 February 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I think Pitchfork gave Harvey Milk a nod in their best new music section and a high score btw.

cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 12 February 2009 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

They haven't become as well known as the others. Just seems strange that obv the ppl who voted for them here didn't vote on that poll. It was well clear of the Boris and Earth on this poll.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Considering how odd the actual list is, and the fact that waaaaaaay more people voted in it than this list, I don't think you can write off, well, pretty much anything to place. thanks for the grouper btw, it's really pretty actually, not what i expected.

cheese and other good things (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 February 2009 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah crystal castles just charted with zero #1 votes so i am oddly optimistic about harvey milk.

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:01 (fifteen years ago) link

actually if i am doing the math right, between the three people who have mentioned voting for it on this thread we contributed 44 points to its total, so if there are others out there we only need 70 points or so (which wait is probably not all that promising). eh, hope springs eternal.

From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Wish I could share your optimism. I bet it was no51.
You think Marnie Stern will make it? Or are the only ilxors who like her are metal fans? LOL @ the irony.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:14 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted Marnie Stern lower than I should have. Pretty certain she won't make it though.

i'm getting too old for this ship (a hoy hoy), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I voted for Esoteric quite high when really I should have voted tactically with stuff i thought might get in it at the top. but then that wasnt the point of a list.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 13 February 2009 01:27 (fifteen years ago) link

No more metal in the poll. Marnie Stern hasn't even made it. Only metallers on ILX like her it seems!

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 00:02 (fifteen years ago) link

The missing Harvey Milk is still too o_O though.

raaaaaaaaaah (a hoy hoy), Saturday, 14 February 2009 00:03 (fifteen years ago) link

by which you mean "not terribly surprising" - great album tho

contenderizer, Saturday, 14 February 2009 07:09 (fifteen years ago) link

But it is surprising as it was no2 in this poll, well clear of Earth and Boris, who beat them in the main poll. Obv some of it's main backers here didn't vote in the main poll. Resulting in less metal in the 2008 poll than 2007.
At least with this metal poll it raised the HM and other bands profiles with lots of people now checking out the results.

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 14 February 2009 16:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Glenn are you doing stats on the other poll?

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 February 2009 00:05 (fifteen years ago) link

No, I'm done with poll stats for now. On to other things!

glenn mcdonald, Monday, 16 February 2009 00:54 (fifteen years ago) link

Aww that's a pity. Got something else in the works for us, Glenn?

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 February 2009 16:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I bought the Nachtmystium lp from Avalanche in Glasgow today. Monorail had sold out of it(and their older stuff I had seen in there before xmas).

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 February 2009 17:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Also found out Earth are playing in April. You up for it, Grimly/Onimo?

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:22 (fifteen years ago) link

I forgot to say it's at Nice N Sleazys

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 00:44 (fifteen years ago) link

You guys read this yet?

The User Formerly Known As Pfunkboy Latterly Known as.. (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 19 February 2009 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

definitely up for earth at sleazys. missed the stereo date last year...saw them at supersonic, but they were unfortunately timetabled in the early evening 'severely flagging from 18 BPM doom overload' slot. I mean, I love earth, but a kick up the arse they most assuredly are not.

be strange seeing them somewhere as small as sleazys though. every other time, their sound has filled a huge space - scala, islington academy, custard factory. they're too widescreen for that basement.

m the g, Friday, 20 February 2009 00:32 (fifteen years ago) link

Bump for fun!

EZ Snappin, Tuesday, 3 March 2009 23:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I predict No Line on the Horizon Preinterpreted landslide on the 2009 edition.

Vulgar Display of Flowers (J3ff T.), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 02:03 (fifteen years ago) link

was that a bump to annoy grady?

Pfunkboy in blood drenched rabbit suit jamming in the woods (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 4 March 2009 16:00 (fifteen years ago) link

No, I bumped it because I missed it and it should never be forgotten. Good times were had here.

EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 4 March 2009 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Ahh, well Im bumping it to annoy him ;)

Wonder if there will be interest for a poll next year?

why wouldn't there be?
(and where is Grady, anyhow?)

51 SBs and there's nothing on (Ioannis), Saturday, 7 March 2009 09:08 (fifteen years ago) link

Mastodon ftw, tho, no?

51 SBs and there's nothing on (Ioannis), Saturday, 7 March 2009 09:09 (fifteen years ago) link

well, it was a bit of a hassle getting enough people to vote so the novelty might've worn off next year.

two weeks pass...

any front runners for 2009 yet?

Cobalt I assume. Personally, I hate the vocalist, which is a real shame because I love the music.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 23 March 2009 01:05 (fifteen years ago) link

Cobalt wont pick up crossover votes for an ILM poll though, as awesome as the album is.

I haven't heard much with crossover appeal - Tombs? Amoseurs? The upcoming Mastodon?

None really do anything for me. It hasn't been a real metal year for me thus far.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 23 March 2009 01:16 (fifteen years ago) link

Amesoeurs possibly. Going to be interesting on how the Mastodon is received. Could do well crossover-wise but metal purists hate it.

Steely Dan is more metal than Cynic.

i, grey, Monday, 23 March 2009 07:11 (fifteen years ago) link

The Gnaw album is the best metal record, by which TBH I mean 'noise record featuring metal luminaries', I've heard this year. Not at all a frontrunner but might scrape a nominal top 50 if enough ppl hear it, which they should

some dude's gizmo (DJ Mencap), Monday, 23 March 2009 10:57 (fifteen years ago) link

My top metal album so far this year is Jamie Saft's Black Shabbis. I also liked that Lamb of God, and the new Mastodon.

Mordy, Monday, 23 March 2009 10:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I have the Gnaw vinyl, it's great.
Khanate album should do well too, it's the best thing they've done since the 1st album, pity it took dubin 3 years to do the vocals so they split up and wont tour it.

slim pickings so far

tombs is all right, buried inside is better but no real surprises in it, lord mantis the only thing I've heard that made me sit up & take notice really

Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 23 March 2009 11:22 (fifteen years ago) link

lord mantis at 7:30 a.m. is pretty fucking bracing though I gotta say, this'll make my overall year-end

Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 23 March 2009 11:33 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New Mastodon in the running for next years poll then?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 6 April 2009 21:27 (fifteen years ago) link

God, I hope not.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 6 April 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link

a dissenter!

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 6 April 2009 23:22 (fifteen years ago) link

Not a fan, either. Mastodon = everything that is and always has been wrong with metal.

ilxor, Monday, 6 April 2009 23:29 (fifteen years ago) link

???????????????????????????????????

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 6 April 2009 23:37 (fifteen years ago) link

almost sure that mastodon will place high on my list

I BLAME JESUS (jjjusten), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:33 (fifteen years ago) link

Mastodon is in the same category as Torche to me, so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them win.

(But I still think they're dumb fake metal for people who are too embarrassed to admit that they always liked Alice in Chains more than Slayer.)

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 00:39 (fifteen years ago) link

i prefer alice in chains to slayer

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 11:11 (fifteen years ago) link

i don't.

\m/ piece n' luv \m/ (Ioannis), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 11:26 (fifteen years ago) link

i prefer alice in chains to slayer

― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname)

GET OUT.

"Hey, We're Clubbing!" (Police Squad) (jim), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 11:27 (fifteen years ago) link

it's possible to like both AIC AND slayer, y'knaa. (though slayer are obviously vastly superior.)

mastodon are now just OK. for me, they peaked with remission and have been on a steady but shallow decline ever since. I admire the fact that they keep pushing their sound, I'm just not keen on where it's gone.

m the g, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 11:31 (fifteen years ago) link

Not a fan, either. Mastodon = everything that is and always has been wrong with metal.

― ilxor, Monday, 6 April 2009 23:29 (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Yeah I don't really get this... yr saying that they encapsulate everything that's bad about the genre for 35, 40 years? That seems weird esp cos a lot of their hataz seem to consider them v much a product of modern metal tastes and fashions. (Don't have a comment on their new album cos I've not heard it.)

GARU GLITTER (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 11:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Not a fan, either. Mastodon = everything that is and always has been wrong with metal.

WTF dude? I think you better back this up a little bit. I can get not being into the band, but being "everything that is and always has been wrong with metal?", seriously? Worse than fourth-rate hair metal? Worse than shameless nu-metal? I mean, fuck, come on.

display names have been changed to protect the innocent (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 12:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I was just being dramatic for entertainment value, in case that wasn't plainly obvious. I like Roxette better than Slayer, personally, if I actually have to rank them on a single scale, so I claim no purist high-ground here.

In this non-purist vein, in fact, I'm enjoying this new "gothic avant-garde metal" album by Ensoph, in kind of the same way that I'm still (vastly) enjoying Artifact. Enthusiastically goofy excess. I think there's some divide in here that has to do with whether your idea of compelling evil is more HR Giger and HP Lovecraft, or more Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Tarantino.

glenn mcdonald, Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link

or both.

\m/ piece n' luv \m/ (Ioannis), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:43 (fifteen years ago) link

New EP/DVD from our poll winners

http://www.stonerrock.com/store/images/covers/ath-5908.jpg
Torche
Healer/Across the Shields (with Bonus DVD) (Orange) (LP) http://www.allthatisheavy.com/info.asp?item_num=ATH-5908

http://www.allthatisheavy.com/info.asp?item_num=ATH-5907 (purple)

or uk
http://www.recordstore.co.uk/productdetail.jsp?productPK=unittest-ZHVQxKz15Uwn9lRZpN3IEb-1 (dunno what colour i guess black?)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 13:59 (fifteen years ago) link

ATH sold out now.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 7 April 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i got mine. It's really good.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 8 April 2009 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

at last. the harvey milk album is coming on vinyl. Pre-order is up at hydrahead

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 April 2009 23:19 (fifteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Stonerrock.coms Top 28 albums of 2008
http://www.stonerrock.com/features/index.asp?FeatureID=155

1. Melvins - Nude with Boots (6670 Pts)
2. Torche - Meanderthal (6285 Pts)
3. Earth - The Bees Made Honey in the Lion`s Skull (6080 Pts)
4. The Sword - Gods of the Earth (5965 Pts)
5. Brant Bjork - Punk Rock Guilt (5520 Pts)
6. Black Mountain - In the Future (5435 Pts)
7. Colour Haze - All (5420 Pts)
8. Boris - Smile (4700 Pts)
9. Dozer - Beyond Colossal (4300 Pts)
10. Ufomammut - Idolum (4135 Pts)
11. Graveyard - Graveyard (3025 Pts)
12. Grand Magus - Iron Will (2805 Pts)
13. Harvey Milk - Life... The Best Game in Town (2430 Pts)
14. Metallica - Death Magnetic (2365 Pts)
15. Dead Meadow - Old Growth (2275 Pts)
16. Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony (2190 Pts)
17. Farflung - A Wound In Eternity (2075 Pts)
18. Earthless - Live at Roadburn (2055 Pts)
19. Eagles Of Death Metal - Heart On (2045 Pts)
20. Opeth - Watershed (1860 Pts)
21. Clutch - Full Fathom Five (1845 Pts)
22. The Atomic Bitchwax - 4 (1820 Pts)
23. 5ive - Hesperus (1760 Pts)
24. The Gates of Slumber – Conqueror (1680 Pts)
25. Witch - Paralyzed (1610 Pts)
26. Ancestors - Neptune with Fire (1370 Pts)
27. Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1 (1350 Pts)
28. Coffins - Buried Death (1340 Pts)

Here's everyones votes http://www.stonerrock.com/features/top28community.asp

Mine
pfunkboy

1. Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
2. Torche - Meanderthal
3. Harvey Milk - Life . . . the Best Game in Town
4. 5ive - Hesperus
5. Grails - Doomsdayer`s Holiday
6. Asva - What You Don`t Know Is Frontier
7. The Goslings - Occasion
8. Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
9. Ocean - Pantheon Of The Lesser
10. Moss - Sub Templum

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 7 May 2009 23:36 (fourteen years ago) link

Here is the master list of all 651 albums (with votes)
http://www.stonerrock.com/features/top28master.asp

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 7 May 2009 23:39 (fourteen years ago) link

I didnt win the prize of $280 worth of music from ATH :(

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 May 2009 12:32 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, really stoked for that.

original bgm, Friday, 8 May 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link

i got an email saying the harvey milk vinyl shipped.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 May 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link

ok that tour makes me feel better about skipping Torche when they came through town (unless they dont come through here, in which case i will be doubly stupid i guess)

Esprit de Corpsgrinder Fisher (jjjusten), Friday, 8 May 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

i heard they skipped your town

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 8 May 2009 23:14 (fourteen years ago) link

see now thats just mean

Esprit de Corpsgrinder Fisher (jjjusten), Friday, 8 May 2009 23:23 (fourteen years ago) link

:(

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 9 May 2009 23:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Mastodan aren't metal anymore--they're rock n roll, man, vanilla division.

i, grey, Sunday, 10 May 2009 06:53 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

I got the Torche Meanderthal demos tape. I cant rip tapes though, sorry.
Anyone got any faves of 2009? I think the YOB album could be a frontrunner for me.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 10 July 2009 23:25 (fourteen years ago) link

ok there is now going to be a repress
http://www.bluecollardistro.com/hydrahead/product_info.php?products_id=3498&cPath=4_255&store=

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 11 July 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Before TORCHE were recording their masterpiece of an album, Meanderthal, they were completely unorganized and quickly trying to scramble for material to put the album together. This recording, engineered by Torche's own Jonathan Nunez, documents the band pre-Meanderthal showcasing seven rougher, rawer, heavier and slightly different versions of tracks later recorded at God City with Kurt Ballou. An essential for any serious Torche fan... and the unserious ones too."
2nd pressing: Limited to 400 copies.

Track Listing:

1. Triumph Of Venus
2. Grenades
3. Pirhana
4. Speed Of The Nail
5. Sandstorm
6. Healer
7. Across The Shields

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 11 July 2009 00:09 (fourteen years ago) link

fyi, the robotic empire store had that torche demos cs for five bucks a few weeks ago. I guess it was the original pressing? ordered mine there but it still hasn't come yet so I can't say for sure.

imo, eight bucks is a little pricey for what this. plus, hydrahead charges ripoff prices for shipping!

original bgm, Saturday, 11 July 2009 17:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Yeah I want to get this (and the Wold tape on the same label actually) but the price is making me halt. If someone gets it in the UK (tho the person I was banking said prolly not) it'll be four quid tops most likely

At War With False Nose (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:06 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm not sure what pressing it was but I got the original a month ago.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

i would bet the tape would be £8 min in the UK.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link

On a vaguely related note, got the new Southern Lord reissue of Thou's 'Tyrant' LP - I say related cos it was £8.50 from the distro I grabbed it from and £16 at my local indie emporium (tho I felt like I was telling teacher when I mentioned this to dude). Thou don't get enough props on here

At War With False Nose (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:09 (fourteen years ago) link

xp I'm basing that on getting the tape ish of 'Cthonic Rites' by Moss, on the same label, for possibly as little as £3 from a distro here

At War With False Nose (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link

the only metal albums on my best of '09 are Buried Inside, Cattle Decapitation, Defeatist & Blut Aus Nord and I don't expect the Buried inside to make the cut

very boring year for metal imo

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link

J0hn - weren't you talking up the Bloody Panda a few months ago? (I don't feel like scanning the thread to check)

It finally sees release next month so the rest of us will get to hear it. I have high hopes.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:27 (fourteen years ago) link

oh that's right is that out? totally not bein' that guy it's just that I got to hear it really early, sometime late last year, and it slips my mind. but yeah it's great, will make my overall '09 list easy.

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

Gnaw is probably my favourite metal-related release of 09 but not actually that metal so ehhhhh. New Nachtmystium EP is good I think. Cobalt and L'acephale (see Gnaw - black metal band not kicking out a lot of BM) are good. Loads of stuff I've not heard obv

At War With False Nose (DJ Mencap), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:32 (fourteen years ago) link

and there's a new havohej coming, that could be good

for the most part though practically everything is like zzzzzzzzzz this shit is giving stagnation a bad name

worm? lol (J0hn D.), Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link

I really like the new Yob and Minsk albums.

Bloody Panda tour dates (great live band, see 'em if you can):

July 21 Bethlehem, PA @ Burners
July 22 Philadelphia, PA @ Kung Fu Necktie (w/Woe)
July 23 Washington, DC @ The Red And The Black (w/Salome)
July 24 Richmond, VA @ Nara Sushi (w/Dysrhythmia)
July 25 Wilmington, NC @ Soapbox (w/Dark Castle)
July 27 Savannah, GA @ The Wormhole
July 28 Gainesville, FL @ The Atlantic
July 30 Miami, FL @ Goo (w/Dark Castle & Maruta)
July 31 TBA (w/Dark Castle)
Aug 1 Atlanta, GA @ Drunken Unicorn (w/Dark Castle & Withered)
Aug 2 New Orleans, LA @ Hi Ho Lounge
Aug 3 Baton Rouge, LA @ Lacey’s House (w/Thou)
Aug 5 Little Rock, AR @ Downtown Music (w/Zucura)
Aug 6 Nashville, TN @ The End
Aug 7 Indianapolis, IN @ Casa Del Kotex (w/Black Arrows Of Filth And Impurity)
Aug 8 Chicago, IL @ White Star Bar (w/Giant Squid, Grayceon, Lord Mantis)
Aug 9 Columbus, OH @ The Summit (w/Lord Mantis)
Aug 10 Pittsburgh, PA @ Howler's (w/Giant Squid, Grayceon)
Aug 12 Buffalo, NY @ Mohawk Place
Aug 13 Toronto, ON @ Wreck Room
Aug 14 Montreal, QC @ Katacombes
Aug 15 Portland, ME @ New Systems Laundary (w/Ocean)
Aug 16 Boston, MA @ Church
Aug 18 TBA
Aug 19 TBA
Aug 20 Baltimore, MD @ Talking Head
Aug 21 Brooklyn, NY @ Union Pool

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 11 July 2009 18:39 (fourteen years ago) link

the blut aus nord is still (BY FAR) the best metal record I've heard this year. so much stronger than TWWTG that it's not even funny.

and yeah, I'd agree, not too many other standouts this year.

original bgm, Monday, 13 July 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link

thou are pretty cool too, yeah. I like that they host high quality mp3s of everything they put out + upcoming stuff + unreleased stuff on their site:

http://noladiy.org/mp3/thou/

original bgm, Monday, 13 July 2009 15:00 (fourteen years ago) link

More Thou vinyl due out soon I think

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 15 July 2009 22:43 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, seems like it. I think that they have a bunch of splits due soon.

have you heard the sabbath covers lp? (through the empires of eternal void) have to say, I was a little disappointed. they don't really vary up the material much at all and what's up with 3/4 of the material coming from master of reality? a little lame considering sabbath have such a deep back catalog.

original bgm, Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:28 (fourteen years ago) link

no, not heard about it.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

It was hella limited but you might still find copies. It's not Thou's crowning glory exactly but I enjoyed it fine enough

Pissed Jenas (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I have never bought any Thou because theres so much and it would cost me a fortune to get it all. Money is tight.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah, there is a bunch. but in general, I've found thou stuff to be reasonably priced. they don't gouge like some bands do, anyway. maybe bc they're vegan punx.

original bgm, Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link

anyway, it's cool that they have mp3s of their whole catalog right up on their site. respect.

original bgm, Thursday, 16 July 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link

there's a split coming with Salome that I will get.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 July 2009 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh i'm glad some of you who pay attention closer than i do are feelin the "boring year" thing. i like the blut au nord but haven't listened to it much, and the kylesa album is really good. i guess i will check out yob too, but that's about all i've been really into from 09.

north sea jazz dit weekend (call all destroyer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't found it a boring year at all

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 16 July 2009 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Baroness,Orthodox,Om will be joining Mastodon in this years top ten I think.
If we run a metal poll at the end of the year that is -- depends on the interest.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 4 September 2009 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

The Baroness isn't a million miles away from Torche (neither was the last album mind you)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 4 September 2009 21:06 (fourteen years ago) link

shhh

Angus Young (roxymuzak), Friday, 4 September 2009 23:18 (fourteen years ago) link

lol ?!

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 4 September 2009 23:19 (fourteen years ago) link

you will like it, hoos

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 4 September 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

sam here's the full list for your perusal
ILX METAL ALBUMS OF THE YEAR 2008 RESULTS (NOW COUNTING DOWN THE TOP TEN, BTW)

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Going down the list till I got to something on Spotify I hit Opeth. As someone completely ignorant of this, I assume band, what do I try o Kerr?

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

I dunno, never cared for Opeth. LJ is a fan I think.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

LJ is no more though :(

Went with Minnie Riperton instead. Metal can wait, I'm only young.

Samuel (a hoy hoy), Tuesday, 13 October 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

When should we open nominations for the 2009 poll?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 November 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Not much longer to go in the year, are there any big releases to come?

I thought I could make it work because you look a bit like a man (aldo), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

There's a new Mudvayne album three days before Christmas. That's about all I know about.

neither good nor bad, just a kid like you (unperson), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I suspect that that isn't going to get a ton of votes.

Van Slyke Paidbreed (J3ff T.), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I was thinking about starting the voting on jan 1st. So how long do you want for a nominations process?

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 November 2009 20:45 (fourteen years ago) link

A couple weeks should suffice. Maybe start nominations around December 15 or so?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 16 November 2009 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link


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