ILX METAL ALBUMS OF THE YEAR 2008 RESULTS (NOW COUNTING DOWN THE TOP TEN, BTW)

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OK, let's start with the complete rundown of the raw stats.

Rank - Points - Votes - #1s - Artist - Album

1 - 479 - 25 - 2 - Torche - Meanderthal
2 - 357 - 19 - 3 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
3 - 276 - 19 - 0 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
4 - 227 - 16 - 0 - Boris - Smile
5 - 212 - 13 - 1 - Opeth - Watershed
6 - 203 - 11 - 1 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
7 - 183 - 10 - 2 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
8 - 179 - 12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus
9 - 165 - 10 - 2 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
10 - 163 - 10 - 0 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion
12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen
13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice
17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air
20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm
42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
52 - 47 - 5 - 0 - Eluveitie - Slania
53 - 46 - 4 - 0 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
54 - 44 - 4 - 0 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
54 - 44 - 3 - 0 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Conifer - Crown Fire
58 - 41 - 3 - 0 - Jarboe - Mahakali
61 - 40 - 2 - 0 - Brave - Monuments
61 - 40 - 3 - 0 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
63 - 39 - 3 - 1 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
64 - 38 - 4 - 0 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
67 - 37 - 2 - 0 - Sex/Vid - Communal Living
68 - 36 - 2 - 0 - Girlschool - Legacy
69 - 35 - 4 - 0 - Motorhead - Motorizer
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Death Angel - Killing Season
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Ocrilim - Annwn
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Septicflesh - Communion
74 - 33 - 2 - 1 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade
74 - 33 - 3 - 0 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
76 - 32 - 2 - 1 - Equilibrium - Sagas
76 - 32 - 4 - 0 - Tyr - Land
78 - 31 - 2 - 1 - Pyramids - Pyramids
78 - 31 - 2 - 0 - Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Ayreon - 01011001
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Candlemass - Lucifer Rising
82 - 29 - 3 - 0 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
82 - 29 - 2 - 0 - Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aura Noir - Hades Rise
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Morkobot - Morto
89 - 27 - 2 - 1 - In This Moment - The Dream
89 - 27 - 3 - 0 - Graveyard - Graveyard
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Burst - Lazarus Bird
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - The Lizards - archeology
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within
97 - 23 - 2 - 0 - Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Everon - North
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Legless - Finding Mr. Perfect
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
97 - 23 - 3 - 0 - Trees - Lights Bane
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Capricorns - River, Bear Your Bones
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Helix - The Power of Rock and Roll
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Moho - Chotocabra
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Orakle - Tourments & perdition
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ayat - Six Years of Dormant Hatred
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - The Devil's Blood - Come, Reap
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Ihsahn - angL
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Taint - Secrets and Lies
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ted Nugent - Sweden Rocks
112 - 20 - 1 - 0 - Colour Haze - All
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - Atavist/Nadja - II: Points at Infinity
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - DragonForce - Ultra Beatdown
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - The Human Abstract - Midheaven
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Into Eternity - The Incurable Tragedy
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Oceans of Sadness - The Arrogance of Ignorance
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Cave - Hunt Like Devil
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Celestia - Frigidiis Apotheosia: Abstinencia Genesiis
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Grand Magus - Iron Will
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Mouth of the Architect - Quietly
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Night Ranger - Hole In the Sun
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Salome - Salome
124 - 17 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel & Nadja - Christ Send Light
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Disturbed - Indestructible
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Gyongyver - Vilagok Viraga
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Janvs - Vega
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Klabautamann - Our Journey Through the Woods
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Ondo - Mahavishnu
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Scar Symmetry - Holographic Universe
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Wrath of the Weak - Alogon
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - The Death of Her Money - Spirit of the Stairwell
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Keep of Kalessin - Kolossus
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Martriden - The Unsettling Dark
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Other Fools - 12 More Lies
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Zozobra - Bird of Prey
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Arkona - Ot Serdca K Nebu
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Desalvo - Mood Poisoner
137 - 15 - 2 - 0 - Origin - Antithesis
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - The Austrasian Goat - pieces to oblivian
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Early Man - Beware the Circling Fin
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Hate Eternal - Fury and Flames
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Hey Colossus - Happy Birthday
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Noekk - The Minstrel's Curse
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Monolith Deathcult - Trivmvirate
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Mount Logan - Mount Logan
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Austrian Death Machine - Total Brutal
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Don Caballero - Punkgasm
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Tecumseh - Avalanche and Inundation
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Daylight Dies - Lost to the Living
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Elder - Elder
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - The Haunted - Versus
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Mourning Beloveth - A Disease for the Ages
150 - 11 - 2 - 0 - Pentemple - 0))) Presents
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Arckanum - Antikosmos
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Black Shape of Nexus (B.son) - Microbarome Meetings
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Catley, Bob - Immortal
156 - 10 - 2 - 0 - Guapo - Elixirs
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Akimbo - Jersey Shores
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Amassfer - Slaves For Life
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Draconian - Turning Season Within
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Fiftywatthead - Fogcutter
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Nadja - The Bungled And the Botched
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Textures - Silhouettes
166 - 8 - 1 - 0 - Lantlos - Lantlos
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Becoming the Archetype - Dichotomy
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Isole - Bliss of Solitude
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - In Mourning - Shrouded Divine
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - The Lamp of Thoth - Portents, Omens and Doom
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Viking Skull - Doom Gloom Heartache & Whiskey
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cavalera Conspiracy - Inflikted
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cursed - III
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Dalriada - Szelek
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Hyatari - They will surface
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Khold - Hundre a Gammal
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Gods And Queens - S/T
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Heavy Winged - Alive in My Mouth
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - My Silent Wake - A Garland of Tears
182 - 3 - 2 - 0 - Poisonblack - A Dead Heavy Day
182 - 3 - 1 - 0 - White Lion - Return of the Pride
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - The Amenta - nOn
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Arsis - We Are the Nightmare
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Farmakon - Robin
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Cor Scorpii - Monument
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Indian - Slights and Abuse / the Sycophant
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Metsatoll - Iivakivi
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Suspyre - When Time Fades...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:28 (5 years ago) Permalink

If anyone wants to buy the Torche vinyl then go to the Robotic Empire Webstore and pick it up. There's several different colours available (as you will see if you scroll down) PLUS you can also order the repress of their self-titled first lp And their In Return EP

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

2nd pressing pics

And now back to Glenn.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:33 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here's the comparison with P&J. This list omits anything that had no votes in P&J and only 1 or 2 votes here. Remember that there were 30 voters in this poll, 577 in P&J.

Here - P&J - Artist - Album

25 - 26 - Torche - Meanderthal
19 - 9 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
19 - 5 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
16 - 6 - Boris - Smile
13 - 9 - Opeth - Watershed
12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus
11 - 11 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion
10 - 6 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
10 - 6 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
10 - 5 - Meshuggah - obZen
10 - 2 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
10 - 1 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
9 - 6 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
8 - 4 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
8 - 4 - Krallice - Krallice
8 - 3 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
8 - 1 - Cynic - Traced in Air
8 - 1 - Coffins - Buried Death
8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
7 - 1 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
7 - 1 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
6 - 5 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
6 - 1 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
6 - 1 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
6 - 1 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
5 - 10 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
5 - 2 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
5 - 2 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
5 - 1 - Eluveitie - Slania
5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
4 - 24 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
4 - 11 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
4 - 10 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
4 - 5 - Disfear - Live the Storm
4 - 3 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
4 - 1 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
4 - 1 - Tyr - Land
4 - 1 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
4 - 1 - Motorhead - Motorizer
4 - 0 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
4 - 0 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
3 - 2 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
3 - 1 - Trees - Lights Bane
3 - 1 - Ocrilim - Annwn
3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
3 - 1 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
3 - 1 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
3 - 1 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
3 - 1 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
3 - 0 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
3 - 0 - Morkobot - Morto
3 - 0 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
3 - 0 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
3 - 0 - Jarboe - Mahakali
3 - 0 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
3 - 0 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
3 - 0 - Graveyard - Graveyard
3 - 0 - Death Angel - Killing Season
3 - 0 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
2 - 2 - In This Moment - The Dream
2 - 2 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
2 - 1 - Septicflesh - Communion
2 - 1 - Pyramids - Pyramids
2 - 1 - Grand Magus - Iron Will
2 - 1 - Cave - Hunt Like Devil
1 - 2 - Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between
1 - 1 - The Haunted - Versus
1 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
1 - 1 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
1 - 1 - Into Eternity - The Incurable Tragedy
1 - 1 - Everon - North
1 - 1 - Disturbed - Indestructible
1 - 1 - Burst - Lazarus Bird

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

I suspect a lot of those P&J votes came from people on here.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Interesting that the Nachtmystium had the same amount of voters. Not surprised the Gutter Twins album got more in the P&J , or that Metallica got way more voters in the P&J. (Shows that ILXors do have better taste!)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if all 6 voters in this poll were the same 6 who voted on P&J.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

At least a few of them came from this tasteless fool: http://www.villagevoice.com/pazznjop/critics/2008/769865

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

As a P&J-related footnote, 7 of the voters in this poll (as far as I know) also voted in P&J. Here they are scored by the number of metal albums they had the courage to vote for in a non-metal forum:

7 - glenn mcdonald
7 - J3ff T
3 - A Begrand
2 - Whiney G
1 - Xhukkx
1 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0 - Mordy

Ahem.

In fact, using this poll's list as a defacto definition of what was metal this year, I have added secret kvlt markings to the bottoms of the voter pages in my P&J poll-analysis, showing how many metal albums that person voted for. For example:

mine - http://www.furia.com/all-idols/2008/2895.html
Kurt Orzeck - http://www.furia.com/all-idols/2008/2895.html

Kurt was the only P&J voter to use 8 of 10 slots on metal albums (and nobody used 9 or 10).

And then, using those voter metal scores, and have applied similar kvlt markings to the album pages, not according to whether the album itself is on our list, but according to how metal that album's voters were, on average. Call this a measure of True Metal, or kvltosis (statistics joke). Here's everything whose voters voted for an average of more than 1 metal album, ranked by that average:

7.3 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
7.0 - Neuraxis - Thin Line Between
6.0 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
5.5 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
5.5 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
5.4 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle, Pt.1
5.2 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
5.1 - Opeth - Watershed
4.8 - Gojira - Way of All Flesh
4.8 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
4.8 - Meshuggah - obZen
4.8 - Krallice - Krallice
4.5 - Dead Congregation - Graves of the Archangels
4.0 - Harvey Milk - Life...The Best Game in Town
4.0 - In This Moment - Dream
4.0 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
3.5 - Ceremony - Still Nothing Moves You
3.5 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
3.5 - Judas Priest - Nostradamus
3.5 - Slim Cessna's Auto Club - Cipher
3.3 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
3.3 - Made Out of Babies - Ruiner
3.3 - Sword - Gods of the Earth
3.0 - Darkthrone - Dark Thrones and Black Flags
3.0 - Howlin' Rain - Magnificent Fiend
3.0 - Testament - Formation of Damnation
2.8 - Torche - Meanderthal
2.6 - Disfear - Live the Storm
2.6 - Earth - Bees Made Honey in the Lion's Skull
2.5 - Burning Star Core - Challenger
2.5 - Rhys Chatham and His Guitar Trio All-Stars - Guitar Trio Is My Life!
2.0 - Snowman - Horse, the Rat and the Swan
2.0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
1.8 - Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
1.7 - Marnie Stern - This Is It . . .
1.7 - Dirtbombs - We Have You Surrounded
1.7 - Mogwai - Hawk Is Howling
1.5 - Baby Dee - Safe Inside the Day
1.5 - Bohren and der Club of Gore - Dolores
1.5 - Boris - Smile
1.5 - Fennesz - Black Sea
1.5 - Heavy - Great Vengeance and Furious Fire
1.5 - Lukestar - Lake Toba
1.5 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
1.5 - Mr. Gnome - Deliver This Creature
1.5 - Necrovation - Breed Deadness Blood
1.4 - AC/DC - Black Ice
1.3 - Jean Grae - Jeanius
1.2 - Dungen - 4
1.2 - Fucked Up - Chemistry of Common Life
1.2 - James Blackshaw - Litany of Echoes

This may be the most interesting list to come out of this poll. Torche may have won, but Amon Amarth are the Truest. This sounds like a real insight to me, whether you think True is good or bad.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

I count 8 metal albums on my ballot... are you not counting Hammers of Misfortune?

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 01:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Also, I'm fairly sure Howlin' Rain aren't metal (although I do like that album).

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:01 (5 years ago) Permalink

Also, no real shock at these guys being the truest metal:

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:08 (5 years ago) Permalink

I voted a metal album in the ILX poll. The problem isn't courage, it's that no metal album I voted for here cracked my top 10. Sorry guyz :(

Mordy, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Also, forget any idea of ILM Metal voting blocks. Nachtmystium's 11 P&J votes include only one from anybody who voted in this poll. Torche's 26 include only 3 of ours. Jeff and I accounted for 2/3rds of the P&J metal votes from people in this poll, and our ballots didn't overlap at all!

As I said, the "definition" of metal I used for scoring voters was all, and only, albums that got at least one vote in this poll. Thus Testament doesn't count (4 P&J votes, one from Jeff). Nor does Black Sabbath (1 P&J vote). And probably there are others that we "know" are metal. But I'm just reporting the numbers as they are, not as they "should" be...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

Back to this poll, here are the average points/voter for all albums that got at least 3 votes:

23.6 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
19.6 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
19.1 - Torche - Meanderthal
18.7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
18.4 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
18.3 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
17.8 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
17.5 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
17.1 - Krallice - Krallice
16.8 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
16.6 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
16.6 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
16.5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
16.3 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
16.3 - Opeth - Watershed
16.1 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
16 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
16 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
16 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
15.7 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
15.7 - Cynic - Traced in Air
15.5 - Meshuggah - obZen
15.3 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
15.2 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
15 - Disfear - Live the Storm
14.9 - 5ive - Hesperus
14.8 - Moss - Sub Templum
14.7 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
14.6 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
14.5 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
14.3 - The Goslings - Occasion
14.1 - Boris - Smile
14.1 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
14 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
14 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
14 - Witch - Paralyzed
13.8 - Coffins - Buried Death
13.8 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
13.7 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
13.6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
13.6 - Jarboe - Mahakali
13.5 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
13.5 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
13.5 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
13.3 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
13.1 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
13 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
13 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
12.6 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
12.6 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
12.5 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
12.5 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
12.4 - Darkspace - III
12 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
11.5 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
11.3 - Death Angel - Killing Season
11.3 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
11.3 - Ocrilim - Annwn
11 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
11 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
11 - UFOmammut - Idolum
10.5 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
10.4 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
9.6 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
9.5 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
9.4 - Eluveitie - Slania
9.3 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
9.3 - Morkobot - Morto
9.1 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
9 - Graveyard - Graveyard
8.7 - Motorhead - Motorizer
8 - Tyr - Land
7.6 - Trees - Lights Bane

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

Cynic album, which I like, pushes my Porcupine Tree buttons. Holds up on relistens too.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:20 (5 years ago) Permalink

And here are the centricity scores for our 30 voters. These measure how close to critical consensus each voter's picks were, with 1 meaning you picked exactly the top 25 (or however many you voted for), and 0 meaning you were the only voter for everything you picked.

0.89 - Brad C
0.79 - Matthew Everett
0.76 - EZ Snappin'
0.75 - Big Hoos
0.75 - Bimble
0.73 - Whiney G
0.72 - A Begrand
0.72 - Marco Damiani
0.72 - Pfunkboy
0.71 - Ryan random
0.7 - Aldo
0.7 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.68 - Kathedraal
0.65 - John Justen
0.65 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.64 - Colonel Poo
0.64 - Alan N
0.64 - Don Parsley
0.63 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.62 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.58 - Ez
0.55 - DJ Mencap
0.49 - J3ff T
0.46 - Karl Vesely
0.45 - Matt Cibula
0.45 - Poison Stone
0.38 - Mordy
0.26 - DJ Martian
0.23 - glenn mcdonald
0.12 - Xhukkx

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:24 (5 years ago) Permalink

i don't even WANT to know where your porcupine tree buttons are located.

x-post

scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:25 (5 years ago) Permalink

I thought I would be higher.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:31 (5 years ago) Permalink

The hilarious thing about this poll is that, even though Chuck only got .12, it actually goes a long way towards supporting his definition of metal.

Shmutchered at Shmirth (J3ff T.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:34 (5 years ago) Permalink

Here are the top 5 most similar other voters for each voter. The decimal number is a rough measurement of similarity: 1.000 would mean the two people's ballots exactly matched. This takes into account album popularity, so the fewer people voted for an album, the more similar two voters are for sharing it. The second number is the raw number of albums in common.

A Begrand
0.556 - 16 - Matthew Everett
0.528 - 14 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.453 - 12 - Big Hoos
0.438 - 10 - J3ff T
0.430 - 9 - Brad C

Alan N
0.354 - 6 - Marco Damiani
0.345 - 6 - Ez
0.318 - 5 - EZ Snappin'
0.314 - 6 - Kathedraal
0.305 - 6 - Pfunkboy

Aldo
0.431 - 8 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.409 - 7 - Bimble
0.398 - 9 - Whiney G
0.390 - 9 - Big Hoos
0.354 - 8 - John Justen

Big Hoos
0.446 - 12 - A Begrand
0.414 - 12 - Matthew Everett
0.400 - 9 - Aldo
0.387 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.380 - 5 - Mordy

Bimble
0.365 - 7 - Aldo
0.330 - 7 - Pfunkboy
0.298 - 4 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.298 - 6 - Ez
0.292 - 3 - Colonel Poo

Brad C
0.406 - 10 - Matthew Everett
0.383 - 9 - A Begrand
0.370 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.363 - 6 - DJ Martian
0.334 - 8 - Big Hoos

Colonel Poo
0.405 - 6 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.391 - 7 - Whiney G
0.309 - 5 - Aldo
0.292 - 3 - Bimble
0.282 - 5 - A Begrand
0.282 - 5 - Matthew Everett

Cut_your_ribbon
0.531 - 12 - Ryan random
0.493 - 13 - Kathedraal
0.425 - 10 - Ez
0.423 - 11 - Pfunkboy
0.367 - 7 - Poison Stone

DJ Martian
0.408 - 6 - Brad C
0.390 - 7 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.329 - 6 - J3ff T
0.300 - 5 - Matthew Everett
0.296 - 4 - Matt Cibula

DJ Mencap
0.402 - 8 - Marco Damiani
0.391 - 5 - Karl Vesely
0.386 - 9 - Pfunkboy
0.385 - 9 - Kathedraal
0.331 - 8 - Matthew Everett

Don Parsley
0.464 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.425 - 9 - Marco Damiani
0.372 - 9 - Matthew Everett
0.370 - 8 - Pfunkboy
0.338 - 7 - Kathedraal

Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.436 - 12 - Matthew Everett
0.417 - 8 - Brad C
0.399 - 9 - Marco Damiani
0.390 - 7 - DJ Martian
0.380 - 8 - J3ff T

Ez
0.497 - 13 - Pfunkboy
0.427 - 10 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.420 - 9 - Marco Damiani
0.388 - 6 - Alan N
0.373 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep

EZ Snappin'
0.398 - 9 - John Justen
0.394 - 9 - A Begrand
0.365 - 9 - Pfunkboy
0.354 - 7 - Brad C
0.350 - 5 - ILXOR (Stephen)

glenn mcdonald
0.404 - 6 - John Justen
0.346 - 5 - A Begrand
0.343 - 5 - Big Hoos
0.326 - 5 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.312 - 4 - Don Parsley

ILXOR (Stephen)
0.438 - 6 - Colonel Poo
0.415 - 8 - Aldo
0.378 - 7 - Whiney G
0.364 - 7 - Big Hoos
0.343 - 7 - John Justen

J3ff T
0.489 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.438 - 10 - A Begrand
0.380 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.353 - 5 - Ryan random
0.352 - 5 - Xhukkx

John Justen
0.435 - 10 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.417 - 10 - A Begrand
0.413 - 9 - EZ Snappin'
0.404 - 6 - glenn mcdonald
0.369 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)

jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.528 - 14 - A Begrand
0.489 - 11 - J3ff T
0.464 - 11 - Don Parsley
0.441 - 11 - Matthew Everett
0.435 - 10 - John Justen

Karl Vesely
0.393 - 6 - Pfunkboy
0.339 - 5 - DJ Mencap
0.296 - 4 - Marco Damiani
0.289 - 4 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.271 - 3 - Brad C

Kathedraal
0.493 - 13 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.478 - 11 - Ryan random
0.468 - 13 - Pfunkboy
0.382 - 9 - DJ Mencap
0.378 - 8 - Whiney G

Marco Damiani
0.434 - 10 - Pfunkboy
0.410 - 9 - Don Parsley
0.405 - 9 - Ez
0.388 - 8 - DJ Mencap
0.385 - 9 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep

Matt Cibula
0.372 - 8 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.325 - 8 - Matthew Everett
0.321 - 4 - Xhukkx
0.311 - 7 - Big Hoos
0.302 - 7 - A Begrand

Matthew Everett
0.556 - 16 - A Begrand
0.456 - 10 - Brad C
0.441 - 11 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.436 - 12 - Doot Doot Bleep Bleep
0.420 - 12 - Big Hoos

Mordy
0.329 - 5 - Big Hoos
0.291 - 3 - ILXOR (Stephen)

Pfunkboy
0.497 - 13 - Ez
0.471 - 13 - Kathedraal
0.465 - 10 - Poison Stone
0.454 - 6 - Karl Vesely
0.450 - 10 - Marco Damiani

Poison Stone
0.465 - 10 - Pfunkboy
0.369 - 7 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.363 - 7 - Kathedraal
0.358 - 7 - Ez
0.326 - 6 - ILXOR (Stephen)

Ryan random
0.511 - 12 - Cut_your_ribbon
0.460 - 11 - Kathedraal
0.351 - 8 - Pfunkboy
0.339 - 6 - jon/via/chicago2.0.
0.337 - 5 - J3ff T

Whiney G
0.434 - 7 - Colonel Poo
0.394 - 9 - Aldo
0.389 - 7 - ILXOR (Stephen)
0.364 - 8 - Kathedraal
0.343 - 9 - Matthew Everett

Xhukkx
0.352 - 5 - J3ff T
0.321 - 4 - Matt Cibula

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:35 (5 years ago) Permalink

so glad amon amarth's once sent from the golden hall is being reissued so all you doofuses who have never heard it can finally hear how great it is and realize that they've never made a better record since. and i use the term doofus with the greatest respect.

scott seward, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

And here are some calculated album similarities based on voter overlap. Note that these involve no outside information or editorial intervention, they are solely produced by simple math, so if some of the association seem strange, blame the voters.

5ive - Hesperus
0.486 - 7 - UFOmammut - Idolum
0.478 - 11 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.424 - 12 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.422 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.417 - 7 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.381 - 6 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
0.333 - 5 - Moss - Sub Templum
0.305 - 6 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.303 - 5 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
0.278 - 5 - Coffins - Buried Death

Amen Ra - Mass IIII
0.256 - 4 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn

Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.372 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed
0.361 - 6 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.361 - 6 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.320 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm
0.313 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.286 - 5 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.278 - 4 - Eluveitie - Slania
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.246 - 4 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
0.246 - 4 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms

Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
0.312 - 6 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.269 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.246 - 4 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

Boris - Smile
0.536 - 15 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.464 - 8 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.452 - 11 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.435 - 8 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.399 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.388 - 8 - Opeth - Watershed
0.380 - 7 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.380 - 7 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.343 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.343 - 6 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.343 - 6 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke

Caina - Temporary Antennae
0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town

Coffins - Buried Death
0.328 - 8 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
0.244 - 5 - The Goslings - Occasion

Cynic - Traced in Air
0.500 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.320 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
0.313 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.292 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed
0.263 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.263 - 5 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.245 - 6 - Boris - Smile

Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.693 - 16 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.645 - 18 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.600 - 11 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.496 - 8 - UFOmammut - Idolum
0.493 - 11 - Boris - Smile
0.438 - 7 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
0.435 - 8 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
0.435 - 8 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.410 - 8 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.407 - 7 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
0.407 - 7 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke

Earthless - Live at Roadburn
0.337 - 4 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII

Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.530 - 7 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.449 - 7 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.365 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed
0.305 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
0.303 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.267 - 4 - Wetnurse - Invisible City

Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
0.403 - 6 - UFOmammut - Idolum
0.318 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.261 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.256 - 4 - Darkspace - III
0.251 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal

Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.473 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.435 - 8 - Opeth - Watershed
0.403 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.357 - 5 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
0.319 - 6 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.296 - 9 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.294 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.294 - 5 - Krallice - Krallice
0.291 - 4 - Disfear - Live the Storm
0.291 - 4 - Withered - Folie Circulaire

The Goslings - Occasion
0.428 - 10 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.427 - 7 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.338 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.314 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.292 - 6 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.286 - 5 - Coffins - Buried Death
0.244 - 5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner

Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
0.273 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.270 - 5 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.256 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.693 - 16 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.645 - 18 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.559 - 10 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.529 - 10 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.514 - 9 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.496 - 8 - Coffins - Buried Death
0.435 - 8 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.434 - 10 - Boris - Smile
0.407 - 7 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
0.407 - 7 - Krallice - Krallice
0.407 - 7 - UFOmammut - Idolum

Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
0.305 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed

Krallice - Krallice
0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.263 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.244 - 5 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1

Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.380 - 7 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.376 - 9 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.342 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.318 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.302 - 7 - Boris - Smile
0.280 - 6 - Opeth - Watershed
0.250 - 5 - Meshuggah - obZen

Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.407 - 7 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.342 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.323 - 5 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
0.318 - 8 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.302 - 7 - Boris - Smile
0.291 - 4 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
0.261 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...

Meshuggah - obZen
0.403 - 6 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.368 - 8 - Boris - Smile
0.357 - 7 - Opeth - Watershed
0.319 - 6 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.294 - 5 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.251 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.250 - 5 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner

Moonspell - Night Eternal
0.278 - 5 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh

Moss - Sub Templum
0.267 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.384 - 11 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.362 - 8 - Boris - Smile
0.334 - 6 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.334 - 6 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.286 - 5 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.286 - 5 - Krallice - Krallice
0.257 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.244 - 5 - Melvins - Nude With Boots

Opeth - Watershed
0.496 - 8 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.473 - 7 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
0.442 - 6 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
0.438 - 7 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
0.407 - 7 - Meshuggah - obZen
0.371 - 6 - Cynic - Traced in Air
0.350 - 8 - Boris - Smile
0.331 - 10 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.323 - 5 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
0.319 - 6 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner

Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
0.320 - 4 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
0.269 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.245 - 6 - Boris - Smile

Torche - Meanderthal
0.739 - 18 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.739 - 18 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.668 - 15 - Boris - Smile
0.605 - 12 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.569 - 11 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
0.529 - 10 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
0.529 - 10 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
0.502 - 10 - The Goslings - Occasion
0.458 - 9 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
0.455 - 10 - Opeth - Watershed

UFOmammut - Idolum
0.398 - 7 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.361 - 6 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
0.328 - 8 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.269 - 7 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.246 - 4 - Moss - Sub Templum
0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
0.267 - 4 - Moss - Sub Templum

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:41 (5 years ago) Permalink

you're awesome. are you going to do all this cool stuff for the main ilx poll?

BIGrack HOOSein Obama (k3vin k.), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:42 (5 years ago) Permalink

Torche album is pretty bitching. A lot of stuff on here I need to check, and a lot I don't need to check (substandard Boris album, fair to middling Sunn 0)) album, I've never like Attila's vocals, and death metal stuff - I don't like death metal). But at least it's quite a varied lot and not rote.

Women can be captains too, you know? (jim), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:45 (5 years ago) Permalink

And lastly, I think, like a little minty wafer after pointless gorging, here is the distribution of vote-counts by album:

25 - 1
19 - 2
16 - 1
13 - 1
12 - 1
11 - 2
10 - 5
9 - 1
8 - 9
7 - 2
6 - 9
5 - 7
4 - 12
3 - 20
2 - 38
1 - 79
0 - 67

I.e., 1 album got 25 votes, 2 got 19, ... 79 albums got only 1 vote each, and 67 nominated albums got no votes.

And here is the distribution of 1-vote albums by voter:

15 - 1
13 - 1
6 - 2
5 - 2
4 - 1
3 - 1
2 - 8
1 - 6
0 - 8

I.e., 1 voter (Chuck) had 15 albums nobody else voted for, 1 (DJ Martian) had 13, ... 8 voters didn't vote for anything that nobody else voted for.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:47 (5 years ago) Permalink

Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
0.312 - 6 - 5ive - Hesperus
0.269 - 7 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
0.257 - 8 - Torche - Meanderthal
0.246 - 4 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
0.246 - 4 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution

But no Sunn 0))) ? How weird!!!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:48 (5 years ago) Permalink

I think that's all I've got. Any questions?

Asva and Sunn 0))) had only three voters in common, so their score fell below my cutoff.

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:52 (5 years ago) Permalink

Well if you know the history you will see why it's funny.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:56 (5 years ago) Permalink

i.e. a certain G. Stuart Dahlquist

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 02:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

G. Stuart Dahlquist - Asva (Former member of Burning Witch, Sunn O))), Goatsnake)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:02 (5 years ago) Permalink

As a P&J-related footnote, 7 of the voters in this poll (as far as I know) also voted in P&J. Here they are scored by the number of metal albums they had the courage to vote for in a non-metal forum:

3 - A Begrand

Ha, I'm awful.

A. Begrand, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:03 (5 years ago) Permalink

And here are the centricity scores for our 30 voters. These measure how close to critical consensus each voter's picks were, with 1 meaning you picked exactly the top 25 (or however many you voted for), and 0 meaning you were the only voter for everything you picked.

0.89 - Brad C

Note to self, quit reading so many reviews

Brad C., Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:04 (5 years ago) Permalink

Or reading anything I recommend!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:10 (5 years ago) Permalink

Calculated similarities always produce some funny things. That's part of why I do them. Melvins/Marnie Stern is my favorite one here...

glenn mcdonald, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:12 (5 years ago) Permalink

you're awesome. are you going to do all this cool stuff for the main ilx poll?

You mean so we can see the voter similarity for the unholy Bon Iver-Fleet Foxes-Vampire Weekend trinity?

ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:13 (5 years ago) Permalink

or the similarities between corny indie albums and what the lex votes for? awesome!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:18 (5 years ago) Permalink

I shall at some point(tomorrow) tally up what record labels got the most albums people voted for (unless some kind soul does it 1st)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:19 (5 years ago) Permalink

(that's a hint)

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

thread of the year, and i don't even like metal. good job for all involved as this was an awesome poll.

Bee OK, Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:40 (5 years ago) Permalink

Glad you enjoyed it. Hope lots of people check out lots of the albums mentioned!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 03:58 (5 years ago) Permalink

I'll do the labels thing tomorrow then.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 04:21 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wish more people wrote blurbs for these. Myself included.

ilxor, Saturday, 24 January 2009 05:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

I missed the Top 10 countdown but I'm pretty happy with results.

Not really a blurb, but I can say I sincerely enjoyed the Nachtmystium album: I found it truly headscratching and I mean this in the best way possible. Its made out of opposite, almost impossible to mix together influences and still its very much Nachtmystium: "Ghosts of Grace" sounds like a black metal Kids of the Black Hole re-write and still it easily rubs shoulders with Pink Floyd-inspired numbers.

Marco Damiani, Saturday, 24 January 2009 11:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

I wis more people had wrote blurbs too. I did my best though.

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 14:59 (5 years ago) Permalink

Willem have you checked out Courtesy And Good Will Toward Men? that is their true masterpiece

― Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 23 January 2009 23:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark

Recently bought and love this record, will now have to finally get their latest one too!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:29 (5 years ago) Permalink

Top Placing Labels In the Top 50 Vote


Hydra Head 6
Profoundlore 4
Southern Lord 3
Relapse 2
Season of Mist 2
Prosthetic 2
I Hate Records 2
Burning World 2
Century Media 2
20 Buck Spin 1
Avant Garde 1
Crucial Blast 1
Gnarled Forest 1
Important 1
Indie 1
Ipecac 1
Kill Rock Stars 1
Listenable 1
Metal Blade 1
Moribund 1
Not Not Fun 1
Nuclear Blast 1
Rise Above 1
Roadrunner 1
Seventh Rule 1
Southern 1
SPV/Steamhammer 1
Sub Pop 1
Supernatural Cat 1
Tee Pee 1
Temporary Residence LTD 1
The End Records 1
Warner Bros 1

And here for posterity is a repost of the full ballot results.

Rank - Points - Votes - #1s - Artist - Album

1 - 479 - 25 - 2 - Torche - Meanderthal
2 - 357 - 19 - 3 - Harvey Milk - Life...the Best Game in Town
3 - 276 - 19 - 0 - Earth - The Bees Made Honey...
4 - 227 - 16 - 0 - Boris - Smile
5 - 212 - 13 - 1 - Opeth - Watershed
6 - 203 - 11 - 1 - Nachtmystium - Assassins: Black Meddle Part 1
7 - 183 - 10 - 2 - Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
8 - 179 - 12 - 0 - 5ive - Hesperus
9 - 165 - 10 - 2 - Made Out of Babies - The Ruiner
10 - 163 - 10 - 0 - Gojira - The Way of All Flesh
11 - 158 - 11 - 1 - The Goslings - Occasion
12 - 155 - 10 - 0 - Meshuggah - obZen
13 - 145 - 9 - 0 - Enslaved - Vertebrae
14 - 141 - 10 - 0 - Melvins - Nude With Boots
15 - 140 - 8 - 0 - Caina - Temporary Antennae
16 - 137 - 8 - 0 - Krallice - Krallice
17 - 128 - 8 - 0 - Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
18 - 126 - 8 - 1 - Asva - What You Don't Know Is Frontier
18 - 126 - 8 - 0 - Cynic - Traced in Air
20 - 123 - 8 - 0 - Sunn 0))) - Domkirke
21 - 118 - 7 - 2 - Grails - Doomsdayer's Holiday
22 - 111 - 8 - 0 - Coffins - Buried Death
23 - 109 - 8 - 0 - Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God
24 - 100 - 6 - 0 - Ocean - Pantheon of the Lesser
25 - 98 - 5 - 1 - The Gutter Twins - Saturnalia
26 - 89 - 6 - 0 - Moss - Sub Templum
26 - 89 - 5 - 0 - Wetnurse - Invisible City
28 - 88 - 7 - 0 - Earthless - Live at Roadburn
28 - 88 - 8 - 0 - UFOmammut - Idolum
30 - 83 - 6 - 0 - The Gates of Slumber - Conqueror
31 - 81 - 6 - 0 - Moonspell - Night Eternal
32 - 78 - 6 - 0 - Jesu - Why Are We Not Perfect
33 - 72 - 6 - 0 - Ascend - Ample Fire Within
34 - 71 - 3 - 1 - Hammers of Misfortune - Fields/Church of Broken Glass
35 - 70 - 5 - 0 - Witch - Paralyzed
36 - 68 - 6 - 0 - Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
37 - 66 - 5 - 0 - Jex Thoth - Jex Thoth
38 - 63 - 6 - 0 - Intronaut - Prehistoricisms
39 - 62 - 5 - 0 - Darkspace - III
40 - 61 - 4 - 0 - Marnie Stern - This Is It And I Am It And You Are It
41 - 60 - 4 - 1 - Disfear - Live the Storm
42 - 59 - 4 - 1 - Blood Ceremony - Blood Ceremony
43 - 55 - 4 - 0 - Metallica - Death Magnetic
43 - 55 - 6 - 0 - Unearthly Trance - Electrocution
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Nadja - Desire In Uneasiness
45 - 54 - 4 - 0 - Withered - Folie Circulaire
47 - 52 - 5 - 0 - Bison B.C. - Quiet Earth
48 - 50 - 4 - 0 - Blue Sabbath Black Cheer - Untitled
48 - 50 - 3 - 0 - Gnaw Their Tongues - An Epiphanic Vomiting of Blood
50 - 48 - 3 - 1 - Zebulon Pike - Intranscience
50 - 48 - 3 - 0 - Racebannon - Acid or Blood
52 - 47 - 5 - 0 - Eluveitie - Slania
53 - 46 - 4 - 0 - The Sword - Gods of the Earth
54 - 44 - 4 - 0 - Amen Ra - Mass IIII
54 - 44 - 3 - 0 - Cough - Sigillum Luciferi
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Lair of the Minotaur - War Metal Battle Master
56 - 42 - 3 - 0 - Trinacria - Travel Now Journey Infinitely
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Belphegor - Bondage Goat Zombie
58 - 41 - 2 - 0 - Conifer - Crown Fire
58 - 41 - 3 - 0 - Jarboe - Mahakali
61 - 40 - 2 - 0 - Brave - Monuments
61 - 40 - 3 - 0 - Deathspell Omega - Veritas Diaboli Manet in Aeternum
63 - 39 - 3 - 1 - Have A Nice Life - Deathconsciousness
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Cult of Luna - Eternal Kingdom
64 - 38 - 3 - 0 - Helms Alee - Night Terror
64 - 38 - 4 - 0 - US Christmas - Eat the Low Dogs
67 - 37 - 2 - 0 - Sex/Vid - Communal Living
68 - 36 - 2 - 0 - Girlschool - Legacy
69 - 35 - 4 - 0 - Motorhead - Motorizer
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel - The Endless Coming Into Life
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Death Angel - Killing Season
70 - 34 - 3 - 0 - Ocrilim - Annwn
70 - 34 - 2 - 0 - Septicflesh - Communion
74 - 33 - 2 - 1 - Samothrace - Lifes Trade
74 - 33 - 3 - 0 - Journey To Ixtlan - S/t
76 - 32 - 2 - 1 - Equilibrium - Sagas
76 - 32 - 4 - 0 - Tyr - Land
78 - 31 - 2 - 1 - Pyramids - Pyramids
78 - 31 - 2 - 0 - Helrunar - Baldr Okk Iss
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Ayreon - 01011001
80 - 30 - 2 - 0 - Candlemass - Lucifer Rising
82 - 29 - 3 - 0 - Dir En Grey - Uroboros
82 - 29 - 2 - 0 - Dornenreich - In Luft Geritzt
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aldebaran - dwellers in twilight
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - Aura Noir - Hades Rise
84 - 28 - 2 - 0 - In Flames - A Sense of Purpose
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Kayo Dot - Blue Lambency Downward
84 - 28 - 3 - 0 - Morkobot - Morto
89 - 27 - 2 - 1 - In This Moment - The Dream
89 - 27 - 3 - 0 - Graveyard - Graveyard
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Gevolt - Sidur
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Mar De Grises - draining the waterheart
91 - 25 - 1 - 1 - Rose Tattoo - Blood Brothers
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Burst - Lazarus Bird
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - Fuck the Facts - Disgorge Mexico
94 - 24 - 1 - 0 - The Lizards - archeology
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - A Storm of Light - And We Wept the Black Ocean Within
97 - 23 - 2 - 0 - Black Elk - Always a Six, Never a Nine
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Everon - North
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - Legless - Finding Mr. Perfect
97 - 23 - 1 - 0 - RTX - JJ Got Live RATX
97 - 23 - 3 - 0 - Trees - Lights Bane
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Capricorns - River, Bear Your Bones
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Helix - The Power of Rock and Roll
103 - 22 - 2 - 0 - Moho - Chotocabra
103 - 22 - 1 - 0 - Orakle - Tourments & perdition
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ayat - Six Years of Dormant Hatred
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - The Devil's Blood - Come, Reap
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Ihsahn - angL
107 - 21 - 2 - 0 - Taint - Secrets and Lies
107 - 21 - 1 - 0 - Ted Nugent - Sweden Rocks
112 - 20 - 1 - 0 - Colour Haze - All
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - Atavist/Nadja - II: Points at Infinity
113 - 19 - 2 - 0 - DragonForce - Ultra Beatdown
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - The Human Abstract - Midheaven
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Into Eternity - The Incurable Tragedy
113 - 19 - 1 - 0 - Oceans of Sadness - The Arrogance of Ignorance
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Cave - Hunt Like Devil
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Celestia - Frigidiis Apotheosia: Abstinencia Genesiis
118 - 18 - 2 - 0 - Grand Magus - Iron Will
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Mouth of the Architect - Quietly
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Night Ranger - Hole In the Sun
118 - 18 - 1 - 0 - Salome - Salome
124 - 17 - 2 - 0 - Black Boned Angel & Nadja - Christ Send Light
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Disturbed - Indestructible
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Gyongyver - Vilagok Viraga
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Janvs - Vega
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Klabautamann - Our Journey Through the Woods
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Ondo - Mahavishnu
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Scar Symmetry - Holographic Universe
124 - 17 - 1 - 0 - Wrath of the Weak - Alogon
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - The Death of Her Money - Spirit of the Stairwell
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Keep of Kalessin - Kolossus
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Martriden - The Unsettling Dark
132 - 16 - 1 - 0 - Other Fools - 12 More Lies
132 - 16 - 2 - 0 - Zozobra - Bird of Prey
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Arkona - Ot Serdca K Nebu
137 - 15 - 1 - 0 - Desalvo - Mood Poisoner
137 - 15 - 2 - 0 - Origin - Antithesis
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - The Austrasian Goat - pieces to oblivian
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Early Man - Beware the Circling Fin
140 - 14 - 2 - 0 - Hate Eternal - Fury and Flames
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Hey Colossus - Happy Birthday
140 - 14 - 1 - 0 - Noekk - The Minstrel's Curse
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Monolith Deathcult - Trivmvirate
145 - 13 - 1 - 0 - Mount Logan - Mount Logan
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Austrian Death Machine - Total Brutal
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Don Caballero - Punkgasm
147 - 12 - 1 - 0 - Tecumseh - Avalanche and Inundation
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Daylight Dies - Lost to the Living
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Elder - Elder
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - The Haunted - Versus
150 - 11 - 1 - 0 - Mourning Beloveth - A Disease for the Ages
150 - 11 - 2 - 0 - Pentemple - 0))) Presents
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Arckanum - Antikosmos
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Black Shape of Nexus (B.son) - Microbarome Meetings
156 - 10 - 1 - 0 - Catley, Bob - Immortal
156 - 10 - 2 - 0 - Guapo - Elixirs
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Akimbo - Jersey Shores
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Amassfer - Slaves For Life
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Draconian - Turning Season Within
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Fiftywatthead - Fogcutter
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Nadja - The Bungled And the Botched
160 - 9 - 1 - 0 - Textures - Silhouettes
166 - 8 - 1 - 0 - Lantlos - Lantlos
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Becoming the Archetype - Dichotomy
167 - 7 - 1 - 0 - Isole - Bliss of Solitude
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - In Mourning - Shrouded Divine
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - The Lamp of Thoth - Portents, Omens and Doom
169 - 6 - 1 - 0 - Viking Skull - Doom Gloom Heartache & Whiskey
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cavalera Conspiracy - Inflikted
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Cursed - III
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Dalriada - Szelek
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Hyatari - They will surface
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Khold - Hundre a Gammal
173 - 5 - 1 - 0 - Neuraxis - The Thin Line Between
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Gods And Queens - S/T
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - Heavy Winged - Alive in My Mouth
179 - 4 - 1 - 0 - My Silent Wake - A Garland of Tears
182 - 3 - 2 - 0 - Poisonblack - A Dead Heavy Day
182 - 3 - 1 - 0 - White Lion - Return of the Pride
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - The Amenta - nOn
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Arsis - We Are the Nightmare
184 - 2 - 1 - 0 - Farmakon - Robin
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Cor Scorpii - Monument
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Indian - Slights and Abuse / the Sycophant
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Metsatoll - Iivakivi
187 - 1 - 1 - 0 - Suspyre - When Time Fades...

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

you done good, pfunkboy; this is a terrific thread!

xxp

Ioannis, Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:43 (5 years ago) Permalink

seconded.

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

or thirded or whatever!

zero learnt from nero (Neil S), Saturday, 24 January 2009 15:44 (5 years ago) Permalink


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