itt: kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b

Let's just call this the "sideways r&b thread". We can discuss, post youtubes, whatever. This is what I'm really into right now.

I'll go first.

J*Davey: Spaced out, warped, synth jams with sexy-time female vocals

"Mr. Mister" (Future Screw Remix)

Muhsinah: Sometimes off-kilter, lo-fi, samplebased stuff, usually pretty cheerful

"Construction"

More to come.

whoops, forgot the youtube for "Construction"

you started this for me rev, didn't you

just cataloged the G&D album

snagged tons of this weekend

will be posting tons on this shortly

really feelin "mr. mister"

G&D = Georgia Ann Muldrow and Dudley Perkins

They did one album with 2tall billed to him, and one w/o billed as G&D.

Both in 2007

DL'd so many of your suggestions today too.

haha, me & brainwasher have been talking this stuff for a couple hours

Finally checking out Spacek (waaay behind on this one)

but I knew you'd be down

ahhh, all I've heard Spacek-wise is the (mostly instrumental) Black Pocket album. Which is pretty good in a dilla x timbo instrumental jam way

Steve Spacek guests his vocals on several things in this vein outside of Spacek (the group).

Platinum Pied Pipers should be listed here too.

What other Waajeed should I have other than Triple P???

Right now, listening to this Swedish group called Little Dragon that Brainwasher just introduced me to. Good so far!

I don't really know much about Wajeed

Little Dragon's chick singer was famed for her work with KOOP, which is more loungey or whatever.

I'm going to check more into Waajeed this weekened.
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Waajeed
Will report back.

kinda off topic: this 80s jam was remixed by sa-ra...and the original itself fits into this mold w/o the remix effort

Speaking of 80s jams, Phonte Coleman of Little Brother/The Foreign Exchange and a producer named Zo! have an awesome EP of 80s covers called Zo! & Tigallo Love the 80's. There cover of "Take On Me":

Where the Erykah New Amerikka fans out on this thread???

oh cool, you made the thread! here's some stuff I've been into recently:

M$NEY "Future": sort of janelle monae-ish futuristic house&b about aliens and shit:

Little Dragon "Test" : whole album is crazy, this swedish experimental deconstrted r&b type stuff with very soulful half-japanese vocalist:

Flying Lotus & Andreya Triana "Tea Leaf Dancers" - Flying Lotus' album Los Angeles is getting lots of love, but this song >>>>>> that album, it's the song that really got me into him last year... really spacey, reverby, hazed-out dilla-esque production and equally hazy vocals:

Dudley Perkins & Georgia Anne Muldow:

will come back to thread with more later, but really we need jaxon to come back lol

and Shafiq Husay'n from Sa-Ra released this really cool instumental EP recently, everyone who loved New Amerykah should check it out:

http://www.dustygroove.com/images/products/s/shafiqhusay_jankrando_101b.jpg

damn this thread is some hot fire, keep it up

Fair amount of overlap here: platinum pied pipers/sa-ra/the new downbeat-rnb thing: why don't i like this stuff more?

Just happened to listen to Spacek's Curvatia for the first time in a while -- it has held up really well.

For out-there Waajeed R&B, the epitome is the Tiombe Lockhart feature "O'Bloody Days, O'Starry Nights on the Bowery" off The War LP.

Has anyone heard the Shafiq instrumentals on Poo-Bah?

haha xp

Not to get too Dilla on this thread, but he overlaps in places:

Dilla's remix of the first Spacek single back in 2000 should get note
Steve Spacek - Eve (J Dilla Remix)

This was my summer jam!!!Soo off kilter
Lucy Pearl - Without You (Jay Dee Remix)

I'm looking to hearing more from Rozzi Daime. She got a hot song currently on Brownswood Bubblers 3, but no youtube yet.

Her with Sa-Ra in 2007:
Sa-Ra ft. Rozzi Daime - So Special

xxp

Though obviously more of a house record, Moodymann's "Freeki Mutha F cker" (finally out, after all these years) deserves mention here.

http://www.myspace.com/araceofangels

http://www.myspace.com/tiombelockhart

http://www.myspace.com/tyandkory

hi dere

so where's the line between stuff like "zo! and tigallo" and stuff like "the cool kids"

Cool Kids are a rap group

(a v. boring rap group)

if youre talking about the retro-humping aspect in particular, the big problem with Cool Kids isn't the retro thing, it's that they can't rap at all

Before this thread gets too okayplayer-ish, here's Muffy Cakeopia:

http://a913.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/39/m_e428452480e5806d011bcfa4649696f8.jpg

Muffy is to Bangladesh as Kelis is to he Neptunes .. she's got cool style, she raps & sings, and has one of the craziest producers behind her... check out "Dope Boi" are retarded:

http://www.myspace.com/muffymommy

lmao that was supposed to say "the beat switches in 'dope boi' are retarded"

I was all excited about Spacek's Space Shift when I first got it, then I realized that it was so xx-ed out that it almost doesn't exist. Great in places, just wheezy in others.

Am I weird in that I don't really like much Dilla stuff, but I like almost everything influenced by him? There's something about the way his tracks lurch in particular that I find offputting.

how great is her bio:

Muffy Cupcakeopia is Hip-Pop, Alternative-Glam Sweet! Muffy was born in Detroit to musical parents. Her mother sang with funk pioneer George Clinton, her father played the BASS and the "Real MAn" who raised her plays the piano and was a musical engineer out of Detroit "dats How he met mommy". From birth she was always encouraged to express herself creatively. As a teen she was unexpectedly uprooted and transplanted to Newark, N.J. Without the security of home, she felt she had to be "everything at once." This move spawned the emergence of Muffy Cupcakeopia. Cute. Independent. Sexy. Tough. Determination lead Muffy to Atlanta, GA. It was there in the southern music capital that acclaimed Platinum manager Coach K began guiding her career. He introduced her to Maverick Super-Producer Bangledesh . Together they have produced ironically titled tracks like "Dope Boy" which have nothing to do with drugs and everything to do with swag. Muffy now laughs at the days when she had to sneak and sell candy in school to buy her prom dress. Her quirky fashion is a reflection of her musical influences. Blondie to Beyonce. Bjork to Badu. All of these women represent independence. Her song "Let Em hate" dismisses anyone who isn't "On what I'm on." This attitude actually inspired her to coin the phrase YummyPops to describe her fans or anyone doing whatever they do to the fullest. YummyPops identify with her Uncensored lyrics and Unapologetic sexuality. Even though her mouth is Tart, she is still Sweet.

Come See da Duck (8:32:05 PM): yeah I think it's gonna be big next yr
Reverend Dollars (8:32:55 PM): the thread or the music?
Come See da Duck (8:32:57 PM): 'cuz I think J*davey will blow up next year and ppl will become more interested
Come See da Duck (8:33:02 PM): both
Reverend Dollars (8:33:43 PM): I don't think most of this has any chance of becoming mainstream, maybe j*davey, just because jack davey is such a persona haha
Reverend Dollars (8:33:59 PM): do they have a major deal?
Come See da Duck (8:34:09 PM): haha yeah she is, and their new stuff is sounding more accesible
Come See da Duck (8:34:12 PM): yeah they do
Come See da Duck (8:34:14 PM): I forget which label
Come See da Duck (8:34:24 PM): but they have some new stuff on their myspace
Reverend Dollars (8:34:57 PM): ahh, will check out
Come See da Duck (8:35:27 PM): the first song that plays "end of the world (mama's back)" is amazing
Reverend Dollars (8:38:08 PM): okay, this
Reverend Dollars (8:38:16 PM): this j*davey song
Reverend Dollars (8:38:56 PM): I dunno, I'm not sure j*davey stand much chance of being bigger than, say, janelle monae
Come See da Duck (8:39:25 PM): I think she's gonna be big too
Come See da Duck (8:39:37 PM): I mean, everyone seems to like her
Come See da Duck (8:39:45 PM): like, even people I know that aren't into underground stuff
Reverend Dollars (8:39:45 PM): maybe they have more of a sex sells going for them than monae does
Come See da Duck (8:40:11 PM): yeah thats possible beacuase Jack Davey is sexy
Reverend Dollars (8:40:25 PM): well, that's what I was trying to say haha
Reverend Dollars (8:41:00 PM): I think Monae is a ws, too, but she doesn't seem as confortable trading on sex appeal as davey does
Come See da Duck (8:41:17 PM): yeah thats true
Come See da Duck (8:41:26 PM): but I mean, she had a Gap ad campaign
Reverend Dollars (8:41:30 PM): did she?
Come See da Duck (8:41:31 PM): so she's not like
Come See da Duck (8:41:35 PM): a fringe artist
Come See da Duck (8:41:36 PM): yeah
sargnt88 (8:41:53 PM): critics love her
Come See da Duck (8:41:53 PM): I think she could definitely blow up
Reverend Dollars (8:42:00 PM): the new stuff on myspace seems a bit more streamlined then their earlier stuff
Come See da Duck (8:42:08 PM): yeah
Come See da Duck (8:42:17 PM): I mean, if Kelis can find an audience
Come See da Duck (8:42:22 PM): then I think J Davey can
Reverend Dollars (8:42:28 PM): good point
Come See da Duck (8:43:31 PM): speaking of, I should post about Muffy in the sideways thread
Come See da Duck (8:43:32 PM): brb
Reverend Dollars (8:43:37 PM): I could see J*Davey or Monae getting Kelis-big, but not achieving actual superstardom
Reverend Dollars (8:43:39 PM): lol muffy
Reverend Dollars (8:44:13 PM): but, a lot of what I like about J*Davey is they're messy

damn, "Dope Boi" is kinda ridiculous

still can't believe her name is "Muffy"

is this the time when i point out AGAIN that a lot of this was prefigured by Common's Electric Circus (largely inspired by Badu and Dilla? and then Shipley clowns me for repeating myself?, because let's just get that out of the way

or is this the time when I say MUFFY CUPCAKEOPIA CALL ME BOO

there's a lot other than Electric Circus that prefigures this. (some not even connected to Badu, Dilla or ?uesto) Don't give Com too much credit.

Although I'm tempted to divide a line between Kedar's Neo-Soul, OK Player, Soulquarians, and this, let's PLEASE not turn this thread into a tiresome debate over what the boundaries are.

If we just remain in the center here of what's what, we can continue with the jams for now.

I'm kinda dissappointed in the G&D project, but the 2Tall feat G&D so far isn't bad.

Waiting for Tiombe Lockhart & J*Davey to come in.

Haven't listend, but Steve Spacek's Space Shift came in. Dimension 5ive has given me a slight bit of cynicism about the listen though.

What more should I know about Bangladesh (insert joek here)?

he produced "A Milli" and "What's Your Fantasy" among other things

no duh rev but you know i'm partially right darn it

it's easy to keep going back in time on this, the black avant-garde did not even start with sly stone as you know but a lot of this stuff sounds like dubbed-out remixes of there's a riot goin' on

I was more talking in regards to the start of this current scene (as I'm sure you were) but lets not get lost in these sort of arguments. Please.

Oh, and why do I have to be the big booster for the Foreign Exchange album?

"Daykeeper"

cover of Stevie Wonder's "If She Breaks Your Heart" (my current last.fm count: 43)

I got it now rev. Wonderful stuff. Thanks for your rec on this!

XD

b-b-but i wasn't trying to...OH FORGET IT, I WILL GO BACK TO MY OLD MAN KIOSK AND LISTEN TO GOMEZ

I still need to listen to that Foreign Exchange album, I'll try to do it tomorrow.

Anywho, more Swedish weirdness, Kissey Asplund:

http://www.myspace.com/kisseyasplund

I meant to ask about Kissey Asplund, I heard something or other by her and liked it.

This is my THREAD!

Rodney, is it time to xpost this:

http://www.last.fm/group/afrofuturists

???

haha, I forgot I started that group! If you are on last fm, please join it!

liking this Kissey Asplund track

Indeed

Non-rap Bangladesh:

Kelis - "Bossy," "Aww Shit"
Beyonce - "Diva"
Ciara - "Hotline"
M.I.A. - "Hit That"

Shawnna's "RPM" (obv. rap, though) never got enough attention.

The new Steve Spacek album is really good...
The Sa Ra Creative Partners Thread, finally...
Underground R&B
Spacek - Microsoul? (*shudder*)

"Sa-Ra ft. Rozzi Daime - So Special"

this track is like something from 1992.

Some other releases, not yet specifically cited, for which I will rep:

Pattie Blingh & the Akebulan 5 - Sagala (GA Muldrow plus a little Declaime/Perkins; later Samiyam mix of "To: Re" is also pretty much messed up)

Dabrye's off-center R&B'ish remix of King Midas Sound's "One Ting"

Steve Spacek's pair of solo 12" for Jazzy Sport

Rahsaan Patterson - "Pitch Black," with the Cure bassline and bubbling tarpit FX:

still lovin Sy Smith's 'Conflict'

Snippets of Asplund's Dorian Concept-produced 12":

http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/mp3/MR281498_1.mp3
http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/mp3/MR281498_3.mp3

Good thread.

super duper work yall

Madlib featuring Georgia Ann Muldrow, "The Plan Pt. 1"
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haha WHOOPS
http://www.youtube.com/v/lOMqutXWf4Q&hl=en&fs=1%22

okay i knew nothing good would come of my trying to come back here, sorry everyone, delete effed-up post plz

Why is there no info online about Hello My Name is Tiombe Lockhart?

Not even her bling47 entry:
http://www.bling47.com/index.cfm

Did I find a bootleg or something?

"Sa-Ra ft. Rozzi Daime - So Special"

this track is like something from 1992.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Sunday, December 21, 2008 8:46 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

I knoiw, right?

Sounds like Young Disciples or seomthing, lightly remixed by SA-RA

Have you seen Rozzi's photos?

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f185/PappaWheelie/RozziDaime.jpg

This thread is an example of why I stay on ILM

i thought it sounded like chante moore...

im reinvestigating this last van hunt album. more of a new wave influence on it but it just seems so derivative. some nice touches here and there but barring a few tracks on each album where it all comes together, he still seems to have absolutely no certain identity of his own.

he sings too tepidly too. argh. i just want to slap him.

Anyone know a good place to get mixtapes (err, CDs) of this stuff? The bling47 website isn't selling any at the moment...

Buy links on Waajeed's myspace:

http://www.myspace.com/waajeedandthebling47group

i love janelle monae but she only has one KO song so far - smile. if anyone could take this stuff mainstream, its her... but ive a feeling this stuff will stay underground with the gilles/benji b listeners and straight no chaser/shook readers.

Szechuan dumplings
After the deal has been done

http://bossip.files.wordpress.com/randyandguest2.JPG

"randyand'guest'" -- oof.

Off topic I know but woah Andy "R.P.M" is amazing.

Will check out a lot of the stuff in this thread. I like that first Foreign Exchange youtube vid.

I know we're doing our best to steer clear of boundaries here, but I think Foreign Exchange is more of a Darien Brockington/Eric Roberson/Dwele thing.

DJ Spinna's neo-soul efforts probably too.

OMG I feel so behind on this thread. Pappa, your new screen name rocks.

http://www.rappersiknow.com/2008/10/19/sa-ra-creative-partners-fantastic-vampere-featuring-erykah-badu-herbie-hancock/

Eric H. just posted this on the Sa-Ra thread and oh fucking man is it doing my head on. The talkbox/Herbie coda ffs

Thanks bim.

And Eric H/Rev, this Sa-Ra/Badu thing SMOKES

ok im not sure what the boundaries are on this but does meshelle ndgeocello count? what about that bilal album from last year?

i love janelle monae but she only has one KO song so far - smile. if anyone could take this stuff mainstream, its her... but ive a feeling this stuff will stay underground with the gilles/benji b listeners and straight no chaser/shook readers.

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this is so rong dude -- many moons???

also i dont think it works the same way in the u.s. as it does in the u.k. as far as 'underground-mainstream'

theres a really niche-but-large slow jamz audience out there that some of these artists can easily get slotted into

anywayz awesome thread!!

Me'Shell was never as good as she was here IMO. But this was amazing:

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=30QtMpCnmS4

I really like her whole first album though.

ha thought that was gonna be the basement jaxx track

That was probably her next peak TBH. Though really I wouldn't know about the last few albums.

greg tate on MeShell Ndegeocello's The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams: "stupendously, consistently genius"

me'shells cover of hendrix's may this be love might be the best thing shes ever done.

ive only heard it once tbh

Hmm now I'm curious. Thom Jurek's AMG review makes it sound like the greatest album ever made but so many of his reviews do that (esp. for long term female singers making tough, uncompromising, experimental albums 10+ years after their commercial peaks).

Voodoo to thread please.

the only meshell album i have is bitter, which is just gorgeous (if uh slightly opaque) - been meaning to get the rest of her discography for ages (esp peace beyond passion). i should probably do that, they're probably like 2p on amazon marketplace.

get the 2nd one.

I am always suckered in by Me'Shell at first but then repeated listenings make me tired, too much work for not enuf payoff. But I am a sucker for other things that probably aren't as "good" so there we have it.

he is more jazzy and has gotten tons of attention b/c of KDJ, but Jose James really is the shit. "The Dreamer" might be one of my favorite records of the year.

http://www.last.fm/group/Bling47+Group

he is more jazzy and has gotten tons of attention b/c of KDJ, but Jose James really is the shit. "The Dreamer" might be one of my favorite records of the year.

I keep meaning to dig deeper into the album and always get snagged -- in a good way (/Avant) -- on "Park Bench People"/"On the Red Clay" or whatever he titled it.

Voodoo to thread please.

― Ioannis, Monday, December 22, 2008 2:24 AM Bookmark

I know this is gonna sound all "rev hates Voodoo", etc. and here I go with the imposing limits and stuff, but I don't want this thread to be about stuff that's already canon like D'Angelo or Badu.

yeah i love the shit out of voodoo but let's get on some new stuff

(good thread btw)

haha YOU CANNOT DENY YOUR OWN HISTORY MY SON

aha! then you must revise thread title thusly: "...pretentious post-modern r&b", no?

dug out me'shell's bitter last night. even more gorgeous than i'd remembered. this was considered a bit of a departure for her at the time, right? i am absolutely going to get the rest of her stuff now...

also, i dimly remember being sent the pattie blingh album mentioned upthread ages ago, just before i moved house and forget about it - i actually managed to find it & am looking forward to using it as a xmas-survival album

can we stick to new stuff rather than play neo soul catch up in this thread plz? (just so i can pick up tips for new music).

can u eat my butt?

I fully endorse this thread.

I like a couple of these so far, so thanks, this thread looks promising.

("a couple of these"--I only just started clicks on these links, you understand)

woah.... Here is a damn funky piece of vocoderized warp-out.

Georgia Anne Muldrow, "Killa Peach"

from this comp:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51XSoD6FrsL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

also includes the aforementioned Flying Lotus

More Georgia being Georgia, this time on a track by producer Yameen called "Never Knows Best"

I need to look into this girl some more.

err, track is called "Spirit Walker" actually

gotta post one of my favorite J*Davey songs:

"No More" -- supersexy and I love the lyrics.. "I just wanna climb/ and leave some footprints on the wall"

Commix f/ Steve Space "How You Gonna Feel"

should read "Steve Spacek" blah

"can u eat my butt?"

only if i can spew it out on your face.

increase the peace

i'm goin' in

i just want to put "dollar" up here, because i fucking love that song

thankig u winston

Haven't had much of a chance to wander through youtube linkages, etc. But I finally gave the Foreign Exchange album a spin and whether or not it fits properly into this category, it's really something else.

Does the new Raphael Saadiq album have any place being mentioned on this thread? It's fucking fantastic; one of my favorite albums this year.

No.

Sorry to be condescending, but have you read the thread title or listened to anything posted in this thread?

I figured Leave It All Behind was fair game, given that it was brought up two or three times, and the prominence of Muhsinah on the album. Sorry.

Regardless, the highlight of a lot of it for me is the disconnect between the three-part harmonies, lush production and the almost mundane quality of some of the lyrics. (Not in a bad way...just...it's a lot of day-to-day details of relationships. Bringing you wings for yo' lunch break, and so forth.) Entrancing stuff.

Sorry, that was in reponce to nick's post, not yours. As far as I'm concerned, FE are fair game for this thread. I posted a couple of their tracks earlier. And your post is totally otm. One of the best albums of the year. I love how it captures both the mundanities and complexities of a relationship... and shows how they intertwine.

I also love how the Phonte vs female vocals are played against each other in unexpected ways throughout, avoiding cliched duet formats.

This thread is particularly perfect given the nebulous status/release dates of Pts. 2 and/or 3 of New Amerykah. I desperately need more stoned afrofuturist science-funktion in my life.

Need to give LIAB a few more spins before I can comment on more than the first impression of WOW.

Shit sorry man! FWIW I have listened to almost all of these posted on here, I own the Flying Lotus LA album and Georgia Anne Muldrow's Olesi Fragments on Earth. Whatever. Sorry.

Also I figured it fit in under the "maybe kinda pretentious" label but like I said sorry.

Naw, I should be the one apologizing. Sorry I was such a dick. And yeah, the Saadiq album is kinda pretentious in it's own way, but the emphasis I wanted is more on the out-thereness and experimentalism. (I might be undermining that with my pimping for Foreign Exchange, but they at least have a v. modern sound and run in these circles.) I just kinda had a "oh no!" moment because slavish retro-soul is pretty much 180 degrees away from what I wanted this this thread to be about. (Btw, how is Olesi?)

haha I am almost afraid to start seeking out the stuff on this thread I don't already know (i.e. most of it) simply because I'm trying to ease into '09 rather than keep digging into '08, but when I like this kind of stuff I like it a lot. thanks for starting it Rev! I'm looking fwd to seeing how it develops.

A good amount of the stuff in this thread predates the past year, and I have no idea what I'd be easing into in '09 anyway. It just feels like in the past couple months this sort of stuff has really captivated me.

This thread is particularly perfect given the nebulous status/release dates of Pts. 2 and/or 3 of New Amerykah.

There should be Muhsinah and Platinum Pied Pipers albums coming in the couple months. XD

what ive heard of the new ppp album is (not great) retro 60s soul. was never crazy about them in the first place but theyve done quite a turn around.

some of my favourite experimental R&B stuff from the past year or 2 are the tiombe lockheart tracks on the wajeed war album. really incredible. better than georgia anne any day ;)

greg tate on MeShell Ndegeocello's The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams: "stupendously, consistently genius"

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Just checked out this album and ^o^. It strikes me as an album that will take a while to unpack. "Elliptical" is my initial favorite.

xp: I still haven't heard any of the new PPP so judgement reserved. I still need to check out Lockhart.

DAMN Janelle Monae's unreleased Audition from 2003 smokes!

Especially:

Letting Go

My Favorite Nothing (despite its production being an obv Hey Ya knockoff)

Also, Sincerely, Jane from her 07 EP has caught me

"Letting Go" has been a favorite since it appeared on Big Boi's Got Purp? vol. 2 comp

I regret waiting so long to check it. It's my favorite song at the moment.

Another thing I love about the Foreign Exchange album: It totally captures that Aaliyah-style future-classy vibe.

I can't find it to post here, but Tiombe Lockhart and Bilal's duet "Strange" is very much worth checking out. It's built very minimally, mostly around a simple, unvarying string bass loop, and features Lockhart and Bilal, using phrasing that signifies jazz moreso than soul, completing each other's thoughts until they finally come together for the chorus. It is tremendously sweet.

anyone check out the new theo parrish single, "chemistry"? it's got om'mas from sa-ra and steve spacek on it, as well as plenty of other collaborators. i personally found it a little too jammy at first but it's seriously growing on me. also the new moodymann ep does a similar thing (all by himself) but even better i think. i linked to this on another thread, but i reviewed the moodymann here, if anyone's interested in checking out the house end of the spectrum on r&b experimentalism:
http://bassandsuperstructure.blogspot.com/2008/12/moody-detriot-67.html
unfortunately these are both only available on vinyl i think, but if you do vinyl seriously worth it.

^^^ I will be checking that out, as I'm currently playing Steve Spacek's 2005 album and is growing on me (in an Amp Fiddler way)

*****SHAMELESS SELF-PROMOTION*****

Wrote an article about Georgia Anne Muldrow here.

Since I've properly tagged "Strange" as being by Leron Thomas, anyone heard more from dude?

Curious if I should prioritize his Dirty Draws series.

and lol @ lastfm tagging Strange as featuring "Tiambe Lockhart"

I should probably get that whole Tiombe project that track comes from. Looks intersting.

anyone check out the new theo parrish single, "chemistry"? it's got om'mas from sa-ra and steve spacek on it, as well as plenty of other collaborators. i personally found it a little too jammy at first but it's seriously growing on me...

― unclejam79, Monday, December 29, 2008 11:29 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark

Fucking hott

Lovin Tiombe's Electric Bullets now (almost as much as Johnnie Walker)

Waajeed & Tiombe Lockhart interview.

She immediately cites the band Suicide (twice) as inspiration for Soul music.

Waajeed being crazy.

is he wearing a fucking morning star around his neck? that is the punkest thing I've seen all day

http://www.gourmetretailer.com/gourmetretailer/photos/stylus/27223-20080501_hm_morningstar.jpg

I don't know if this fits with this thread but I don't know where else to post it right now. The Dazz Band "Let It Whip".

Completely fucking bad ass, if you ask me.

it doesnt really fit in with this thread no

Anyone hear Fader Suite903 No.15? Has a lot of overlap:

http://www.discogs.com/release/1107955

1-1 Garth Trinidad Intro - Thank You
1-2 Sa-Ra Creative Partners Space Fruit
Producer - Sa-Ra Creative Partners
1-3 J*DaVeY Dancehall
Producer - Brook D'Leau
Rap [Featuring] - Kardinal Offishall
1-4 J*DaVeY Lalalaland
Producer - Brook D'Leau
Rap [Featuring] - Elucid
1-5 Coultrain vs Waajeed The Hustler
Producer - Waajeed
1-6 Chuck Brown Block Party
Rap [Featuring] - DJ Kool
1-7 Cool Kids What It Is
1-8 Wale Good Girls
1-9 Wanlov The Kubolor Never Die
1-10 Vieux Farka Touré Sangaré (DJ Center Remix)
Remix - DJ Center
1-11 Mark Pritchard & Steve Spacek Turn It On
Producer - Mark Pritchard
1-12 DJ Vadim Got To Rock (Aaron Jerome Remix)
Remix - Aaron Jerome
1-13 Politik, The Money (Don't Let It Catch Ya) (Maddslinky Remix)
Remix - Maddslinky
1-14 Taylor McFerrin Broken Vibes (Isoul8 Edit)
Remix - Isoul8
Vocals - Vincent Parker (2)
1-15 Ruth Ann Cunningham* Be Free
1-16 Vikter Duplaix Make A Baby (Remix)
1-17 Stoney Rock A Song About Her
Producer - Stoney Rock
1-18 Jill Scott Epiphany
Producer - Scott Storch
2-1 Rocket Science (3) Intro
Producer - GE-OLOGY
Voice [Drop] - Benji B , Waajeed
2-2 Black Pocket U're A Sta
Producer - Steve Spacek
2-3 Bilal Heaven
2-4 Kim Hill Nutshell
2-5 Politik, The She's Gone
Producer - Mark De Clive-Lowe
2-6 Deborah Jordan Home
Rap [Featuring] - Replife
2-7 G&D Time
Producer - Georgia Anne Muldrow
2-8 DJ Spinna Tribute To The G.O.A.T.
Producer - DJ Spinna
2-9 Electric Conversation Hey
Vocals [Featuring] - Patricia Marx
2-10 Replife Spirit
2-11 Umod U Better Recognise
Producer - Domu
2-12 Paola Jean Featherlight
2-13 Spacek They Don't Know You
Rap [Featuring] - Common
Vocals [Featuring] - Ledisi , Raphael Saadiq
2-14 Dolphin (9) Airsounds For Libras
Producer - Dolphin (9)
2-15 Tiombe Lockhart & Waajeed The Overtaking
Guitar - Saadiq
Producer - Waajeed
2-16 Cuba After Market Without Regrets
Producer - Roddy Rod
Vocals [Featuring] - Muhsinah
2-17 Morgan Zarate M.A.B.
Producer - Morgan Zarate
Vocals - Sarah Anne Webb
2-18 GE-OLOGY Longin'
Producer - GE-OLOGY
Vocals [Featuring] - Yukimi Nagano
2-19 Jack Sample Pros Perskryptshyn
Co-producer - JackSmiles.aka.Chordz*
Producer - FlyJack
2-20 Replife Put It Down
Vocals [Featuring] - Kissey Asplund
2-21 Q-Tip Work It Out
2-22 Common Drivin' Me Wild
Keyboards - Omar Edwards
Producer - Kanye West
Vocals [Featuring] - Lily Allen
2-23 Angie Stone Baby

^^^ got me more curious about GE-OLOGY

ws sy smith /ws
http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/blog_images/sy_smith-thumb-473x314.jpg
http://mosaicthump.com/soulpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/sy-smith-conflict-201x300.gif
(but i'm a sucker for style)

Listening to the Sy Smith album now and it is sweet.

which sy smith album? i got one of hers a while back cos i loved one or two of her early songs and thought it was really dull. great production but totally song-less.

Yeah, I haven't heard her albums, but that's the impression I got from the track posted upthread.

i tend to think that about a lot of this kind of music though, esp georgia anne. although im not sure she even has the great production thing going for her.

Checking out disc 2 of Fader Suite903 No.15 now.

2-6 Deborah Jordan Home

WHOA!

This track is exclusive to the mix. Was unaware of her before this.

A youtube search turned up one tacky live jazz show that she was featured at. Not worth posting.

Anyone know of any decent tracks out there featuring Deborah Jordan other than this?

2-12 Paola Jean Featherlight

This one's nice too. Also claims to be exclusive to this mix.

Youtube on this one is completely fruitless.

livebloggin my listening...

2-14 Dolphin (9) Airsounds For Libras

ESPECIALLY nice. Possibly the best on this disc yet.

So much of this mix is like early bootlegged Sa-Ra, all off-kilter beat programming.

Including this Cuba After Market & Mushinah jam, which is the jam.

SOO much good stuff on here (with a fair amount of filler that doesn't end up being distracting)

Q-Tip coming off like the Coleman Hawkins on this affair. Like, the old guard who is down, but not fully developed into what's going on.

This Common/Lily Allen track is surprisingly great. Like, GREAT great.

Angie Stone sounds exactly like Angie Stone, kinda O_o why is it on here? Not a bad jam, but typical.

Listened to the Kissey Asplund album last night. Didn't do much for me. Her voice is very slight and her cutesy tendencies grate.

Ahh, that Common song is the worst track on it's not-particularly-outstanding album.

i tend to think that about a lot of this kind of music though, esp georgia anne. although im not sure she even has the great production thing going for her.

― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Monday, January 5, 2009 5:10 AM Bookmark

Eh, I get "freeform" out of Muldrow's tunes, whereas I get "poorly structured" out of Sy Smith's. One seems to use it as a virtue unto itself, whereas the other just seems to not know any better. I know you don't like GAM at all, so you're not likely to agree.

Wait, what Rev?

Yeah, Common's lyrics are soo ugh, but that beat is hot. Different than the rest of the disc, but you already stated aversion to Dilla-esque production (which that track is).

The album is like most mixed cd's that comes with mags, full of filler, but the idea that even you would dismiss that mushinah jam comes off as ilm contrarian style.

Having only heard disc 2 and finding 5 songs for regular rotation is a better track record than most of my recent acquisitions.

I didn't offer any opinion on the Muhsinah jam!

I haven't heard it.

The "not-particularly-outstanding album" was Common's Finding Forever.

And the Common/Lallen beat doesn't sound like Dilla to me, it just sounds like Kanye being weak sauce. All of Ye's other beats on Finding Forever are better, and so is the Dilla beat! And the will.i.am beat!

WHOOPS, sorry, once again, reading comprehension problems on my part.

I never heard the Common album.

And good call, like a Kanye/Dilla babby, which is more Kanye.

For whatever reason, the mix in question gets "normal" in the last few songs.

On a side note, I still cannot find a taste for Dudley Perkins. The G&D track on here is |>|>

Kanye said he was specifically trying to imitate Dilla in his production on that album (which was recorded in the year after Dilla passed)

I don't got any love for Dudley P. either. What a cornball.

I do like Finding Forever, though in all it's non-outstandingness. It is the rap equivalent of comfort food. No surprises, but feels just right. I just can't stand that particular song cause the beat is meh (I did discover the sample on that Rotary Connection album haha) and Common's raps are the worst he'd done before his new, utterly sad, album.

So why so many G&D collabs???

I mean, talk about hot + cold

"Ladies Sing" by Sa-Ra puts me right in the middle of summer.

haha, NOW PLAYING!

I was about to send you this track too!

oh shit, vulcan mindmeld! haha

The way the beat is chopped is very Todd Edwards.

Checking you lastfm shows we both listend to Strange and Ladies Sing back to back (although I changed my tag to show Leron as the artist, feat. Tiombe).

When you need more GAM, I advise picking up that Pattie Blingh project. It's quickly finding a place in my rotation.

I've heard the Pattie Blingh and love it.

I figured out exactly what is awesome about Tiombe Lockhart and it that all her songs sound like sparse demos of songs that are supposed to be very lush, but work in their stripped-down states anyway.

I wonder if that has to do with her obsession with the band Suicide? She's grown on me a lot over the past week or two.

Anyway, more new:

Paola Jean
6 tracks on her myspace page, including Featherlight, the track featured on the Suite903 mix
www.myspace.com/paolajean1

More of an Acid Jazzy/neo-Soul setting live @ SOB's

http://paolajean.org/
http://cdbaby.com/cd/paolajean2

And the other female diva discovery from suit903, Deborah Jordan:

http://www.myspace.com/deborahjordanmusic

HEAVy:

http://www.myspace.com/whoisheavy

lol after a few months i deleted Finding Forever except for Driving Me Wild. Amazing hook, wish it had been a massive hit.

I liked Lily Allen for about 3 month when I first heard her album and haven't been able to stand her since, so my opinions on anything Lily Allen related are probably taken with a grain of salt.

Yeah i'd agree with this exception, i just really like the floatiness with the rolling piano, poppy and exhilarating to me. BTW this was Duff/G Rap level of o_0 when i realized who it was.

But back to this excellent thread. The things I like a lot: Musinah, Foreign Exchange, Commix, 2nd JDavey, old "hey love" sa-ra from another thread. Things not sure: Little Dragons, Asplund. Things dislike: 1st JDavey. Things I have to contribute: 0 :( Sowwy.

(Anyone know the sample in the Musinah song? Madlib used it for "Happy Home" in Liberation.)

As of the early hours of Wednesday, January 07, 2009, "Ladies Sing" by Sa-Ra is my favorite song ever.

this thread makes me love the world.

Sorry for merely generic comments (maybe it's better that way anyway, because I'll probably just say something stupid otherwise), but I'm struck but how much of this I kindof like, given that I know nothing about almost any of this.

(Oh jesus New Mexico's slow internet speeds plus old Gateway PCs in the library make it impossible to do anything in timely manner.)

Another (2008) double disc mix to fuel the fire of discovery.

Plenty of Muhsinah, SA-RA, and Steve Spacek included:

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Various-Assets-Not-For-Sale-Red-Bull-Music-Academy-Toronto-2007/release/1274001

Various - Various Assets - Not For Sale: Red Bull Music Academy Toronto 2007

1-1 Muhsinah & Jake One You (3:56)
Vocals - Muhsinah
Written-By, Producer - Jake One , Muhsinah
1-2 Didem Süzen Something's Gone (4:33)
1-3 TRG , Benga & DJ Zinc Benga Woz Here (4:05)
Mixed By - DJ Zinc
Vocals - Zephec
1-4 Kez YM , David Ryshpan , Mara TK & Randy Muller Oniyama (4:32)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Recorded By - Erik Breuer
1-5 bRUNA (3) With Your Fingers (1:29)
1-6 Migumatix vs. MAT64 Toronto Mindgames (4:33)
1-7 Mara TK & Jake One Look What You've Made Of Me (3:23)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
1-8 Om'Mas Keith Trouble Girl (4:08)
Effects (Talkbox) - Todd Osborne*
Vocals - Muhsinah , Om'Mas Keith
1-9 Akiko Kiyama & Ronald Kohn Found In Translation (6:43)
1-10 Africa Hi Tec feat. Rio* Too Late (3:59)
Trumpet, French Horn - Ben Lamar
Vocals - Rio* , Steve Spacek
Written-By, Producer - Mark Pritchard , Steve Spacek
1-11 Zephec Queen St. (6:55)
1-12 Samiyam & Hudson Mohawke Eff This (2:35)
1-13 Kat!Heath! , Dirty Sonix & M.J. Zilla Victoria's Secret (5:26)
Mixed By - Dirty Sonix
Vocals - M.J. Zilla
Written-By, Producer - Cosmin Nicolae , Kat!Heath!
1-14 Baris K. Show You Love (7:27)
Recorded By, Mixed By - Erik Breuer
1-15 Sara Lahey & David Ryshpan No Place (4:34)
Backing Vocals - Torreblanca
Drums - Kez YM
Producer [Additional] - DJ Zinc
Recorded By, Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Sara Lahey
1-16 Dead Leaf Requiem In A-Flat Reprise (5:42)
Bass, Guitar - Lumi
Drums - Kez YM
Effects [Sound Design] - Deaf Leaf
Producer - Dead Leaf
Written-By - David Ryshpan , Paul Jebanasam
2-1 Juba Dance We Will Wait For You (3:59)
Backing Vocals - Aleisha Thomas , Samaek Thenci
Bass - Rio Hemopo
Drum Programming [Additional] - Waajeed
Electric Piano [Fender Rhodes] - Mauricio Fleury
Guitar [Electric] - Clonious, The
Percussion - Vario
Percussion [Body] - Shaheen Ariefdien
Recorded By - Erik Breuer
Synthesizer - Mark Pritchard
2-2 Marks & Muhsinah In Need Of (2:48)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Muhsinah
2-3 Luis Davis & St. Göran* I Am Not Sure (4:17)
2-4 MarToRio Share Of (5:41)
Producer, Recorded By - Marco Passarani , Torsten Schmidt
Vocals - Rio Hemopo
Written-By - Marco Passarani , Rio Hemopo , Torsten Schmidt
2-5 Quareback Dark Ascent (6:02)
Written-By, Producer - Tomá Ivanov
2-6 Marks & Om'Mas Keith Streets Is Cold (3:22)
Backing Vocals - Mara TK
Guitar [Additional] - Kez YM
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Muhsinah , Om'Mas Keith
Written-By, Producer - Markus Salo , Om'Mas Keith
2-7 Tufan Demir & MAT64 Gone Away (4:35)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Muhsinah
2-8 Kat!Heath! , Torreblanca & Sarah Lahey Qué Esperas? (2:48)
Vocals - Sarah Lahey , Torreblanca
Written-By, Producer - Katherine Heath , Torreblanca
2-9 Turbo-Rexx & Granufunk Re-Faust (6:18)
2-10 Clonious, The feat. n.i.a.m.h. & Granufunk Valediction (3:43)
Vocals - n.i.a.m.h.
2-11 Happy Melody Indian Summer (5:45)
Recorded By - Erik Breuer
Written-By, Producer - Marc Codsi
2-12 Makoto , DJ Zinc , Om'Mas Keith & Denius Close To Me (3:37)
Electric Piano [Fender Rhodes] - David Ryshpan
Recorded By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Om'Mas Ketih
2-13 Tony Allen Jam Session* Interlude (4:00)
Bass - Rio Hemopo
Drums - Tony Allen
Electric Piano [Fender Rhodes] - Theo Parrish
Guitar - Paul Movahedi
Percussion - Ron Trent
Vocals - Steve Spacek
2-14 n.i.a.m.h. & Ronald K.* Falling Star (Reinterpreted) (4:06)
Mixed By - Cubist
Vocals - n.i.a.m.h.
2-15 Sarah Lahey & Om'Mas Keith Get Over It (4:24)
Mixed By - Erik Breuer
Vocals - Sara Lahey
2-16 Tufan Demir & Vélez* Send More Cops (6:57)

Something about The Foreign Exchange's "House of Cards" struck me as a bit odd and I figured out what it was. It's in 7/8 time.

Listening to Heavy's Jazz Money$$ right now. It's more toward the J*Davey/Janelle Monae precocious space-girl end of this, although they try to hamfist it with the lyrics in the way Monae would. Lots of tweaked synths and showy/skippy drum programming and the occaional talkbox. My favorite tracks as on one listen are "Countdown" and "Mylittlesong". Live clip of the former:

good call on the 7/8 time!

probably why i gravitate towards it so much when listening to that album

Yeah, it's been my new favorite this week. I've pretty much gone "If She Breaks Your Heart" -> "Daykeeper" -> "House of Cards"

offtopic, but I obsess over documenting hit songs that are in 12/8

i couldn't figure out why and how i got on this, then i realized it stems from my love affair with sly & the family stone's hot fun in the summer time. i have never gotten over that song being in regular rotation.

12 gives it so much room to stretch out the strings and such, while the piano is banging away in 8th notes. this quickly made me realize that the impressions' "it's alright" was built on the same idea, which probably all stemmed from fats domino's cover of blueberry hill.

despite 12/8 hits (billy swan's i can help, genesis' misunderstanding, toto's hold the line, whitney's i'm your baby tonight, etc), odd time signatures beyond 3/4, 6/8, and 12/8 freaked me out when i was little thanks to hearing dave brubeck's take five (5/8) in a local car add when i was maybe 11. got the time out album when i was about 18. became a fan.

i've since gotten into odd time sigs in a serious way (thus, becoming a stereolab fanatic)

I love odd time signatures, maybe even especially 7/8. "Unsquare Dance" is my favorite Brubeck. XD

new PPP mixtape: http://www.divshare.com/download/6302006-1a8

may end up liveblogging this haha

lol i just more or less did this in the PPP thread. go over there and correct all my errors.

oh no wait, haven't heard that. plz do!

was talking about platinum pied pipers/sa-ra/the new downbeat-rnb thing: why don't i like this stuff more?

Before I get into that, I have to post some Jesse Boykins III. This shit is ridiculous smooove.

lol @ the vid using that played out Hype Williams letterbox splitscreen effect

so nice! shit i've gotta make a mixtape of all the stuff i love on this thread and foist it on ppl.

Hold up. This PPP may have to wait, cause the Boykins stuff I'm listening to is incredible. Like swimming in a sea of warm butter and less describable fluids. Smashtape material if I've ever heard it.

What is it with all these r&b singers using that Curtis Mayfield "Think" instrumental? Beyonce AND Tiombe Lockhart AND James Boykins III. This killed my buzz.

odd time signatures beyond 3/4, 6/8, and 12/8 freaked me out when i was little thanks to hearing dave brubeck's take five (5/8) in a local car add when i was maybe 11. got the time out album when i was about 18. became a fan.

That's interesting to me. My parents always played several different versions of "Take Five" basically since I was born, so I always took it for granted. It wasn't until I was in middle school and started taking band class that I realized there was anything odd about it.

Speaking of time signature goofiness and "Think", "Think" is in 9/8.

PPP Mixtape: Starts with some washed out synth chords, then a "1 Thing"-ish remix of Coultrain's "Angel" by Waajeed that BANGS. Then a remix of a J Dilla track from the PPP debut. It's full of game boy sounds and is giving me a bit of a bad Crystal Castles aftertaste. Guilt by association.

"Your Day Is Done" featuring Georgia Anne Muldrow. It's pretty good, not great, gets better when she starts rapping. I have a feeling she knows better what to do with a straightforward Mary J.-in-92 hiphop beat when rapping than singing, but doesn't realize this.

A warped-out sub-house Waajeed remix of the warped-out sub-house Sa-Ra jam from the debut. Trades in the originals mechanistic stomp for mellow rhodes piano. Me like.

We also get an altogether nice and unassuming and by-the-books Waajeed and DJ Topspin of a Tiombe track and another Waajeed/Topspin remix, this one a very J. Dilla-ish (like more than normally) retouch of Zero's Fever, both from the first album.

"Goodbye" A rather straightfoward r&b track with some chick named Jamila Reagan. Love the stadium claps. Followed by "Stand For Something", a duet with unison vocals from Reagan and Coultrain over Muhsinah-ish chopped 'n' skittered drums. So far I've been enjoying the fuck outta this tape.

I'm going to stop liveblogging at this point.

this sounds like it fits with this thread a lot more than the album itself, tbh.

good werk, yer reverence.

The original version of the cover of "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover" with Raheem Devaughn on vocals appears toward the end. Rogiers' vocal on the album version is a lot better. Devaughn doesn't fill out his note hear at all.

notes*

here*

hi

i would have posted earlier, but i was out of town for 2 weeks and when i got back this thread already had a billion posts and a billion youtubes for me to catch up on. there are so many artists on this thread i've never heard of. a lot of it is great, but there's so much that's kinda forgettable. i haven't really listened to current black music in at least a year or more so i have little to contribute.

the closest i've gotten was stealing a promo from my mom of the Aloe Blacc album (?!). kinda fits in here. a mix of post-dilla hip hop, post-sa-ra soul and even some latin stuff where he sings in spanish. not a bad album. but it's from 2006. here's the first track. really great http://www.robotsinheat.com/temp/WholeWorld.mp3

oh yeah, Flying Lotus had a bbc essential mix. it's really fucked up
http://www.newmixes.com/flying_lotus-essential_mix-sat-11-29-2008.html

and while listening to a lot of these youtubes, found this korean artist Asoto Union. not exactly this thread, but i think papawheelie would love it. smooth and funky. kinda like some japfunk thread he started

here's another one i thought was kinda rad

Samon Kawamura - Try (feat. Aloe Blacc)

this isn't r'n'b, but thought people here would be interested. post dilla chop'n'thump instrumental hip hop. amazing

Onra - for fans of dilla's donuts and sublime frequencies

Jaxon giving me some material to catch up on now!

Anyone see this post from Muhsinah (who frankly, pwns this thread):

http://www.muhsinah.com/2008/11/11/check-this-out/

11 Nov 2008 | from www.muhsinah.com
My little brother’s EP drops today.11/11His name is 00Genesis.The future of the future.Get it. NOW.

I'll be hunting for 00Genesis later today along with Jaxon's additions.

I spent some serious time listening to Sy Smith recently. Yeah, I wasn't the only one underwhelmed, but far from terrible (some truly embarrassing lyrical moments though, for sure). However, the broken beat track (Art of You) found its way into regular rotation for me.

And speaking of Japanese additions to this, Cro-Magnon did a minimal, rhodes heavy track with Steve Spacek that's worth noting (Time Flies) in 2008.

Tonight's the night I play catch up on this thread again, so expect some live blogging soon
(especially on the Not For Sale: Red Bull Music Academy Toronto 2007 mix)

PPP album is sorta/kinda a live(-ish) band-oriented spin on Press Play (the back half of PP especially) with no rapping, a couple '60s throwbacks, and a couple nods to Basement Jaxx (at their most Funkadelic).

Remember when Britney and Waajeed were photographed together? Some of this stuff could be fronted by Britney -- "Go, Go, Go" especially.

Very different from Triple P. Love it.

Anyone know much about Computer Jay?

His song '1000 Fold' ft. Gray Kid on the 2007 'Art Don't Sleep' compilation (that also featured Flying Lotus) has entered my regular rotation.

Discogs entry shows little more than what I have (some edits on another artists project).

Youtube results are somewhat interesting live sets, and show a LOT of potential, but not quite on par with this track I have.

PPP album is sorta/kinda a live(-ish) band-oriented spin on Press Play (the back half of PP especially) with no rapping, a couple '60s throwbacks, and a couple nods to Basement Jaxx (at their most Funkadelic).

Other than liking their other work, the Press Play and Jaxx comparisons are the first things I've heard to make me enthusiastic about hearing it.

http://www.muhsinah.com/2008/11/11/check-this-out/

11 Nov 2008 | from www.muhsinah.com
My little brother’s EP drops today.11/11His name is 00Genesis.The future of the future.Get it. NOW.

I'll be hunting for 00Genesis later today along with Jaxon's additions.

I grabbed this compilation in search of 00Genesis and unearthed some other gems in that Flying Lotus/off-kilter Sa-Ra beats/Post-Dilla vein:

http://www.discogs.com/release/1221095

A1 Powell (7) Dimension X
A2 Jackhigh Arachnid Eyes
A3 Rustie Dog Mask
B1 Hubert Daviz Smut Cut
B2 fLako Inside
B3 00Genesis Dream Catcher

Also found a Jackhigh project (album? compilation?) that featured 00Genesis called Interplanetary Thoughts.

Been a bit busy to keep up with this thread this week, so hoperfully I'll be able to do that over the weekend. Btw, I'm totally down w/ international additions and some chop n thump instrumentals, so long as they don't become the focus of the thread (which they haven't, carry on).

Remember when Britney and Waajeed were photographed together?

I can't find this. :-/

and some chop n thump instrumentals, so long as they don't become the focus of the thread (which they haven't, carry on)

I've mostly been avoiding instrumentals, but I thought 00Geneis was worth nothing being Muhsinah's brother.

However, if occasionally welcomed: guided by seeking more JackHigh, I also grabbed a compilation called "Metro Sampler Line 2&3" that has some more of this off-kilter, sampler based, rhodes heavy, beats that fits the bill.

Loving the PPP albums so far, esp "The Ghost of Aveiro"

I've mostly been avoiding instrumentals, but I thought 00Geneis was worth nothing being Muhsinah's brother.

Uhhhh, worth NOTING.

(and how many mixtapes Waajeed got???)

Waajeed got too much to name. there's so much that i've found it hard to even know where to start with him. suggestions other than the usual remixes etc?

Flying Lotus is some nasty shit.

Did you all follow directions and download the pre-Abundance mixtape? Lots of remixes, TWO different versions of "50 Ways to Leave Your Lover," good-ish stuff. Album's probably tighter.

this kid i used to know in LA djs this kinda stuff.

http://www.myspace.com/djkaleem
http://colderthanaratsass.blogspot.com/
i'm currently listening to his peven everett mix. it's mostly his upbeat housey stuff, but he's got some weirder slow stuff too. definitely a name to check out.

it's funny how this stuff started in detroit but is so LA centric now. guess it makes sense since jay dee moved there and sa-ra is from there.

oh shit, just realized rozzie daime is my friend's friend reese that sang on the sa-ra album

anyone know about this Antantiquity thing? compiled by garth trinidad

http://www.discogs.com/Various-Atlantiquity/release/568528

Tracklisting:
1 Kleeer Tonight (SA-RA All Stars Remix)
2 Slave Watching You (Vikter Duplaix Remix)
3 Eddie Harris Bold And Black (DJ Nu-Mark Remix)
4 United 8 Getting Uptown (To Get Down) (Quantic Remix)
5 Average White Band Pick Up Te Pieces (Charlie Dark Remix)
6 Sister Sledge We Are Family (Daz-I-Kue Remix)
7 Donny Hathaway Little Gheto Boy (Freddy L Remix)
8 Chic A Warm Summer Night (King Britt Remix)
9 Spinners I'll Be Around (Kev Brown Remix)
10 Carmen McRae Just A Little Lovin' (GB Remix)
11 Faze-O Riding High (The Army Of Love Remix)
12 Yusef Lateef Nubian Lady (Metisse Remix)

or anything about SunGodSuns? it's total project blowed dudes (2mex, omid [who i went to highschool w/], and dj nobody. but has production by sa-ra

http://www.discogs.com/SonGodSuns-Everyday/release/766140

Oh shit, new blood! I'm thinking garth trinidad is a man to watch, considering I liked his Fader mix.

Matt, I need to pick up your suggestions asap. Booting slsk won't happen for a bit though.

Thanks for keeping this alive! Will report back.

garth is a dj for la public radio station KCRW and does a show called chocolate city

http://www.kcrw.com/music/programs/cc

hold the fuck up

(btw jaxon, et al, thank you for your contributions!)

this PPP album is a lot better than i thought it would be. prefer the stuff that isnt so locked into the dilla-ish drum programming but its interesting. the first single they leaked had me worried they were trying to do the 60s soul pastiche thing.

Yeah, I like how they use retro-soul more as a starting point than as an end unto itself.

Oh man, this thread is so great and appreciated. It is totally hooking me up with stuff I was looking for when I started this thread: Contemporary mellow jazzy soul...

I sort of want to listen exclusively to this kind of stuff from now until perpetuity.

so i got back in contact w/ Kaleem that i mentioned just upthread and he mentioned some new names

http://www.myspace.com/opswamp81 (really feeling this)

http://www.myspace.com/afta1

http://www.myspace.com/samiyambeats

the last 2 are primarily instrumental. samiyam even does a weird (not necessarily good) remix of soldier boy's "crank that"

Moodymann Live:

I discovered a podcast on slsk of garth trinidad and muhsinah

in the process of getting now

musinah seems a lot like GAM to me. not sure if i like her. screechy singing all over the place and not very songful.

anyone like frank mccomb? hes very neo soul but not in the posery/too cool way, very donny hathaway influenced, to the point where its almost like glenn lewis and stevie wonder. still like him though, but i wish he had some better lyrics on some of his songs. theyre as inane as a lot of modern R&B, just less noticeably so cos the music and singing are so 'deep'.

so very late on this particular bandwagon but my brothe just sent me Tide's Arising by Mark de Clive-Lowe and "Slide" is like the perfect mix of Prince and house music, woot

I'm sure it's mentioned up there somewhere, but the PPP album is up on emusic now

i listened to Flying Lotus' "Los Angeles" and honestly, it was kinda really boring. no songs, no basslines, no samples, just beats and weird noises. kinda lost me. his bbc essential mix is still pretty rad though.

the j*davey album is great

The Flying Lotus album didn't make a huge impression on me, either. I haven't gone back to it. Maybe I should, maybe I shouldn't.

musinah seems a lot like GAM to me. not sure if i like her. screechy singing all over the place and not very songful.

Your capacity for constant rongness astounds me.

I discovered a podcast on slsk of garth trinidad and muhsinah

Woops, meant Garth podcast of Georgia Anne. On 1st listen, it's decent, with some exclusives. Will listen again soon.

musinah seems a lot like GAM to me. not sure if i like her. screechy singing all over the place and not very songful.

haha on the GAM comparison, considering my mixup above. Although I don't get the "screechy" accusation on Muhsinah. Screechy is how I define much of the R&B out there, as Tombe Lockhart says in the interview posted above.

so very late on this particular bandwagon but my brothe just sent me Tide's Arising by Mark de Clive-Lowe and "Slide" is like the perfect mix of Prince and house music, woot

Gotta admit...it was that album that opened the door for me to revisit the Broken Beat meets Neo-Soul thing, which surely led me to this, but I don't think they're exactly the same. I got into Mark and Ticklah thanks to DJ Spinna colabs.

i listened to Flying Lotus' "Los Angeles" and honestly, it was kinda really boring. no songs, no basslines, no samples, just beats and weird noises

I consider Flying Lotus, 00Genesis, Jackhigh, et al to be a sub-genre. Not R&B, although, occasionally in an R&B mode.

xp

I mean, I'm not saying you are rong about Muhsinah and GAM being similar, just the rest. ; )

tbh i only heard her once a few months back and i prob should reinvestigate just to make sure i was right or not but i dont know if i want to repeat that experience.

I love both their voices, especially Muhsinah's.

weird. the tracks on her myspace arent like the ones that were there last year at all. these are nicer. not very GAM at all.

for the record, day.break has been my favorite album on this whole thread (probably of the whole decade). not just saying it to pile up. i'm really blown away by it. i just know contrarian ass ilm would'nt agree if stated (and probably won't anyway), so i was hoping everyone would find it on their own and at least have no expectations

xxp

xpost - that flying lotus album has pretty good bass if you listen to it on a good system. i find if i hear it just on my PC speakers a lot of the low end disappears.

xp For real, dawg? I like day.break, but it runs together after a while.

what is day.break

Muhsinah

For real, dawg.

Tonight's the night I play catch up on this thread again, so expect some live blogging soon
(especially on the Not For Sale: Red Bull Music Academy Toronto 2007 mix)

― serious sockpuppet here (PappaWheelie V), Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:28 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

Finally, some of this has come in.

So far, not half as good as the Fader Suite903. Musinah gives way to IDM, Dubstep or whatever, inst Acid Jazz, Electro, but...

This Mara TK & Jake One track is great.

Om'mas Keith Prince-a-like track with Talk Box is great

Samiyam and Hudson Mohawke's "Eff This" is a *fantastic* beat that begs for a great vocal

Waiting for the rest.

Oh, btw: you may be interested in the Brownwood Bubblers series. I downloaded the third last night, but haven't listened yet. Has Stacy Epps and Rozzi Daime on it among others, the clips I listened to mostly sounded in this vein.

Yeah, that's on my list to get too. Have a few cuts from it already.

Finally figured out what "Mr. Johnnie Walker" sounds like to me:

LA area fans, Janelle Monae & Garth Trinidad @ Giant Step Sat Feb 7

http://www.giantstep.net/events/1074

oh shit, just realized rozzie daime is my friend's friend reese that sang on the sa-ra album

― (jaxon) ( .) ( .) (jaxon), Tuesday, January 20, 2009 9:57 PM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

jaxon, met your friend Ben last night. We related on 1,000 topics, including gaining some insight on Rozzie Dame.

Anyway...

Anyone know anything about MarToRio? His song Share Of from the Red Bull Toronto mix is in the heart of this. I've found next to nothing so far.

haha. nice! yeah, he's my oldest bestest friend. how'd you put 2 & 2 together? did you mention that u knew me from the internet?

ilx came up. he said his friend jason forwarded him a thread about new, weird r&b. dan was in the convo, pointed out jason = jaxon. ben started talking about his friend reese.

he said several terrible things about you. kinda endlessly.

ha. of course. unrequited love, etc

She's not quite "out there", but I figured I'd mention Algebra Blessett in here... her album Purpose was one of my favorites from last year:

Gorgeous voice.

this dude just added me on myspace. Always is pretty cool. looks like he had a remix on that garth trinidad mix i mentioned upthread

http://www.myspace.com/giftedblessed

oh, nice. i asked GB who was singing on that Always track and he said it's muhsinah

Snippets of Asplund's Dorian Concept-produced 12":

http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/mp3/MR281498_1.mp3
http://www.hardtofindrecordsrecordstore.com/mp3/MR281498_3.mp3

― Andy K, Sunday, December 21, 2008 10:02 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

"Silverlake" video (plus other stuff):

http://ibootleggedyourmum.wordpress.com/2008/09/22/kissey-asplund-silverlake/

this is where we talk about PPP right? i'm enjoying this album more and more every time i spin it. i'm partial to the karma stewart songs, my favorite is 'on a cloud'; her voice is so soulful and retro (in a good way). does she have anything out there on her own that is worth checking out?

also looks like lastfm is autocorrecting them now, i remember rev complaining about that recently

I need to catch up with this thread.

but for real though, me too

I like the Algebra tracks! I'd seen something of hers posted over at lolbounce, but it didn't catch me.

For those curious about Muhsinah's day.break, and a few other things in this thread, this was put together for someone else, but might as well place it here too.

Aight, so on one listen I like this new Heavy record a lot. It's a lot less hamfisted then their debut. More neo-soulish, too. Lots of rhodes and sax all over the place. And a heap of Stevie-isms. They even call the last track "Wonderlove" and go for a glorious, all out, unabashed Minnie-circa-Perfect Angel tribute. Somewhere in the middle there's a broken-beat rendition of the Sesame Street theme. The two "bumpers" are a good vamp that a didn't need to hear for more than a minute, but otherwise I can't really find fault. I didn't expect much of this, but color me impressed.

Oh, wow. I think the Jazzanova remix of "Wonderlove" might be even better than the original.

Sa-Ra album on Ubiquity, release date of 6/9.

Obviously the hold up was in waiting for a 6/9 Tuesday.

http://www.canadianshakespeares.ca/essays/images/BillTed3.jpg

awesome

what's it called? black fuzz?

Pubic Cube (In Space): Book 1 of 4

Clip Never Stopping When It's Time to Kick or Spray, Vol. 1: Meccanomics

Pretty sure Black Fuzz was abandoned sometime before the release of The Hollywood Sessions and has mostly been cannabalized.

Actual title is Nuclear Evolution: The Age of Love

Pubic Cube (In Space): Book 1 of 4

I am so disappointed that this doesn't appear to be real.

Wasn't the Black Fuzz stuff recorded strictly for GOOD/Sony? There was that teaser EP ("Nasty You," "Big Fame," etc). I can't keep it straight.

I have no idea what legalities were involved.

From Ubiquity press release:

Their plan was to release their Black Fuzz album through Sony Urban and follow-up with the Ubiquity album. However, as with the best made plans (especially those involving major labels,) Black Fuzz has yet to be released.

Om'Mas Keith is currently producing and writing for P. Diddy’s upcoming album (Last Train to Paris), and will co-star in a major network reality television show.

all music guy

Helping SRCP realize their potential on Nuclear Evolution is a crew of friends and co-conspirators that includes legends like soul chanteuse Erykah Badu, and saxophonist Gary Bartz with his quartet. The album also features up-and-coming talent like Debi Nova, Rozzie Daime, Noni Lamar, Erika Rose, Brook D’leau of J*Davey, Joseph Liemberg, Fenetta Lowe & Jimetta Rose.

so one of the "Moodymann" videos posted above is actually this guy Paul Randolph. he is with Moodymann and Waajeed, Innerzone, etc. damn good stuff:

http://www.myspace.com/prandolph

ooh, "rough and tough" is some good shit. i'll have to track some of this stuff down

aight i cnt really find anything by him, even on last.fm so if someone wants to be a bro and webmail me that'd be great

just sent you a mail, k3vin

much love

Damn, that's pretty nice. Can I get a...?

got u homie (hope you dont mind, table)

thanks, kev!

no prob :) that first album of his wasnt bad, but i'm back to listening to the songs on him myspace, and damn i'm looking forward to a next album by him, this is some great stuff.

ruff and tuff/let me show ya

thanks kev! and yeah. i also like "About Last Night," but it is a bit housier for sure.

so one of the dudes from Excepter has produced an album with a sextet of 12-14 year old girls from Brownsville rapping over VERY Excepter=like beats. my friend's label is putting out the vinyl. very strange and obviously a novelty, but kind of awesome, too. like Rye-Rye but more fucked-up and menacing, on first listen.

http://pitchfork.com/forkcast/12726-born-2-b-fly/

@_@

Since this thread sorta went unnoticed the first two times around, I'm gonna put it here. I might be claiming new favorite band.
Francis and the Lights

that's kindof a bit more balearic yacht rock than kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b and there are about a million threads about that.

I think i kinda like it tho

just came in here to rave about algebra, but brainwasher did it a couple of months ago! 'run & hide' is gorgeous.

So off one listen Triangle is basically awesome. Lots of really blunted loops with prettiness strewn about on top. Shock sample of the album: Antibalas' "Beaten Metal" on "Re: Outsource".

new Muhsinah album, I should point out

Oh man, love your new screen name, Rev. That's really set the bar higher, I think.

the Muhsinah album i listened to (daybreak 2.0?) was unbearable imo

was this the thread where someone was posting about Paul Randolph?

yeah!! anything new from him? "ruff and tuff" was my shit a couple months ago

If you don't like Daybreak, it's probably safe to say you won't like Triangle.

rev wanna webmail a kev?

why not

no, but I downloaded that ysi when I saw it and I'm having a second wave of loving them, partic let me show yeah, which is some pretty classic old school disco imo. If anyone wants to recommend anything else by him i'd be happy to hear it.

yeah that let me show ya was actually a jazzanova track he was featured on, if you didnt know. i've got "this is what it is", an EP of his, which didn't leave much of an impression on me, but he's featured on a couple of other jazzanova tracks from of all the things. i forget who but i think someone said he's coming out with something this year

yeah i know, i like it more than rough and tough tho

I got the impression from discogs that he had already put out his own version of that song and maybe they sampled the vocals?

So I saw Muhsinah and Platinum Pied Pipers last night. Well, only really one song by PPP b/c they didn't go on until 1 AM and I'm old.

Thoughts on Muhsinah: really dug her sound a whole lot -- but her songwriting is kinda weak, IMO. I like that her melodies are unpredictable, full of weird half-note jumps, but it's almost to a fault: lots of times it just sort of sounded meandering. But I'd be interested in hearing the recordings.

i) heads up to grab muhsinah's the oscillations: square 2day

ii) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2i_7gDhLqpE

"her songwriting is kinda weak"

thats pretty much all these guys :(

Questlove, Foreign Exchange, Zo & Carlitta Durand - Purple Flip

new sa ra album is really disappointing. sounds like all the acts it influenced. lost all focus.

it sounds like theyre essaying everything.

is this kind of music strictly for the grown and sexy?

nahh.

i mean, yeah, but the young and repulsive can listen too.

http://djkaleem.podomatic.com/

Some relevant tracks in the first mix.

*new to the board* - hello!

Nice, I've been looking for a good introduction to Peven Everett.

Welcome to ILX, Archi!

"i know all the bitches" by mr beatnick ft. ahu is just gorgeous http://www.myspace.com/mrbeatnick

dropped a bunch of cds at my local store for sale -- if i get fair value i will finally get the georgia anne muldrow record and then float around in the ether for a long time

dunno how 'out there' this is or if it should just be in reg-R&B thread but this is cool
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljJP86w7m3U&feature=player_profilepage

gettin a teedra vibe from that

dunno if this belongs in this thread either but what do you dudes think of the new nicolay record?

wasn't aware of it, is it a solo?

cool cover art
http://www.removethelabels.com/images/city_lights_vol_2.jpg

b-_-d

glad there are vocal tracks, wasn't hugely into the idea of an all-instrumental Nicolay record, but I shouldn't have worried about anything as the instrumentals are rich with detail, too

Ah, just realized the vocals on here are Carlitta Durand. I've been obsessed by "Her" off this - http://rs615.rapidshare.com/files/222174745/Carlitta_s_Way.rar - mixtape at various points.

I want to hear "Saturday Night" out, but realize it will probably never happen.

looks like the only place Hudson Mohawke's been mentioned on ilm is in the dubstep/wonky threads. this is the only song i've heard from him, but it def belongs in this thread. pretty nice.

http://www.thefader.com/2009/08/10/premiere-hudson-mohawke-rising-5-mp3/

yo at any point did ya'll discuss the j*davey album(s)? i know it's over a year old but i only got a hold of it a week ago and have been finding alot to love about it.

The J*Davey album was pretty enjoyable for a few listens. Some keepers there. I look forward to seeing where they go in the future.

Shafiq Husayn's En A-Free-Ka is pretty good, a lot better and a lot more focused than this year's Sa-Ra album. Interesting how most of the rhythms seem to be based more in Afro-beat than hiphop or R&B.

vid is pretty cool. sounds like a mix between outkast and sa-ra

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlyeNkxlNhU

i dont like that one much -- was def feeling this tho

havent checked the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWrxfuzwjQ

ugh hate that dude. garish neon bullshit imo

Kinda surprised at the mellowness/playfulness of Kings Ballad, no?

damn, GAM got another album already?

I know I stan for anything FE-related but OMG this is so fucking good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV5mNZ_fVnc

I hope you have a little girl
And she's the apple of her eye
You'll never see her cry
Til somebody breaks her heart
The way you did mine
I hope they make her cry
I hope somebody makes her cry
*cue guitar solo*

pretty much going to listen to this song on repeat all day now

damn, GAM got another album already?

Early February, yeah -- very good (if not Umsindo level).

The Quadron album is my favorite of the year thus far (without doubt my year-end number one).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InYDnSPaIUE

damn, GAM got another album already?

Early February, yeah -- very good (if not Umsindo level).

Kings Ballad is so much more listenable and interesting to me than Umsindo, which often prized weirdness over actual quality. Here the balance is a lot better.

FITE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RBjMrRXTxI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTmAHP1MSck

Reminds me of when we had to take our daughter to Chuck E Cheese and she slept through an entire birthday party while in her stroller, five feet in front of the animatronic loudness.

pretty much going to listen to this song on repeat all day now

― samosa gibreel, Friday, April 2, 2010 6:15 AM Bookmark

I did this yesterday. Might do it today.

Dunno if the J*Davey fans on the thread knew, but they released a freebie ep on xmas day last year: http://jdavey.bandcamp.com/

I'm still waiting for "Dollar or More" to show up in full anywhere. They've been sitting on that song for at least two years, and if it doesn't show up on the next full length, I'm gonna blow a gasket.

Yeah, I've been meaning to give that ep a second spin for a while

I'm way into that Yahzarah track posted upthread a bit.

i originally thought it had nothing to do with the production since the vocal is so outstanding, but it's not like i ever would've been smart enough to know that pop-punk drums way loud in the mix would ever work in a song like this. any releases i should check out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxihZyey1qM

xp: If you haven't, check out the Foreign Exchange's Leave It All Behind (which features Yahzarah, among others, on vocals) and Nicolay's City Lights 2: Shibuya, both of which are produced by Nicolay and of excellent quality, albeit much more subdued than this. I haven't heard Yahzarah's previous albums, though. I may have to now.

I'm also happy to find out today that there's a new FE album in October. I am becoming such a total stan for them. XD

xp- word, one of my favourite songs of the year so far. i bumped the cult of dilla thread a while ago asking for recs of similar sounding stuff and got told to just read the psychedelic rn'b thread. good things happen when this thread is regularly updated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7ELR-W7BKs

lead by ryan olson, GAYNGS members include POS, Dessa, Michael Lewis, and members of Bon Iver, Megafaun and Solid Gold.

I've heard 4/20 and 5/11 as release dates for the new album, "relayted"

this sounds like it's going to be some late night, or driving in the car, or late night driving in the car kind of dope shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m2pBzdlmHw

that lineup sounded pretty dnw, but that is dope

That Quadron disc is pretty killer, like a spacey, more R&B version of Roisin Murphy. Love love "Buster Keaton."

Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More Listening now
Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More 7 minutes ago
Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More 1 hour ago
Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More 2 hours ago
Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More 2 hours ago
Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More 2 hours ago
Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More 2 hours ago
Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More 2 hours ago
Yahzarah – Why Dontcha Call Me No More 2 hours ago

i would like to point out that i have been otm in this thread

that is a very good music song

if you told me a few years ago that one of the rappers from Little Brother would become one of my favorite working songwriters, I would have looked at you so fucking cockeyed

i hope you're happy or whateva

on second thought not really HEY!

:)

rev can u post mp3

http://www.theforeignexchangemusic.com/2010/03/why-dontcha-call-me-no-more.php

yahzarah is a babe

yah

loooool apparently GAM's pops is one of the dudes behind The Secret. that makes weird sense :/

yah zarah yah

i hope you're happy or whateva

― samosa gibreel, Sunday, April 4, 2010 9:27 AM Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

on second thought not really HEY!

― The Reverend, Sunday, April 4, 2010 10:16 AM Bookmark

That Quadron disc is pretty killer, like a spacey, more R&B version of Roisin Murphy. Love love "Buster Keaton."

― Michael F Gill, Sunday, April 4, 2010 12:42 AM (3 weeks ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yup - totally recommended, esp if it's getting to be summer where you are.

yo rev the yahzarah album has leaked, will report back tomorrow on if there's anything else as good as 'why don'tcha call me no more'

oh and i'm really liking that quadron, thx for the rec

cool thx

like the quadron album but don't feel like playing it much

lol at the continuing theme of "yahzarah rescues decent female-fronted stevie wonder songs from albums not a lot of people liked"

"The Lie" is v good in a "this seems always on the verge of breaking out into stadium disco" type way

if there's anything else as good as 'why don'tcha call me no more'

― waka khan (samosa gibreel), Sunday, May 2, 2010 10:39 PM Bookmark

i'm gonna call a 'no' on that. album is decent but not as good as LIAB or Shibuya

*doesn't want to believe it*

it kinda has Stankonia syndrome, you know, where anything place after "Bombs Over Baghdad" sounds kinda lame no matter how good it is. except "Why Dontcha Call Me No More" is track #2

placed*

Yahzarah record just leaked, if that's of interest to anyone.

Oh never mind, I just saw that it actually leaked on Monday. der.

thought the quadron rec was 09

it's good either way

Speaking of Plug Research, the new and bananas Bilal album fits here.

im excited to hear that

Speaking of Plug Research, the new and bananas Bilal album fits here.

Are any samples of this online aside from the single (which is fantastic)? I can't wait to hear more of this one; is it really that weird?

clips on amazon

Thanks! I have pretty high hopes for this one.

Anybody have any thoughts on How To Dress Well? The upcoming album, Love Remains, is very lo-fi and at times very ambient, but it's really deeply grounded in R&B. Very interesting hearing some of these melodies and phrasings in the context of a experimental record that sounds like it was recorded in a bathroom.

I'm glad Jordan bought it to my attention that their was a neo-soul type thread on ilxor.

Here were the videos I posted on a previous newish thread which basically covered the same subject. I hope people won't mind the reposting of videos. In the last post I mentioned to the user of proto neo-soul and put in three videos of those artists critics claimed actually started neo-soul rather than Erykah Badu and D'Angelo. I feel like these artists were far more edgier than the "first wave." I also spoke on the limited access of finding new neo-soul music. In the US we ahve TV 1 and Centric but you have to pay for those channels. There is also a website called soulbounce.com but they are very pretentious and think mainstream r&b sucks. I would only go there for the music suggestions and not their writing because it is really bad.

Here are the videos I mentioned:

Me'Shell NdgeOcello - If That's Your Boyfriend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpdzEpGIqtY

Groove Theory - Tell Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THtqUDitQ4I&ob=av2e

Joi - Sunshine and the Rain (very rare video that recently surfaced)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7FIfpdNEuY

I gave this video as transition from "proto-" to "first wave":

D'Angelo - Lady (remix)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myXWAJi55v0&NR=1

i love these two trax that fit here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fq0QoQeOFPY

ahu is a turkish singer based in london who does a lot of stuff with sideways hip-hop producers like mr beatnick, soundspecies - i love her voice, it's so smoky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiAXKFTNfOc

suspect this one's going to be big - posted it last week on the uk urban pop thread but it fits better here. i think it's co-produced by burial. jamie woon is great, he was also on subeena's "solidify" last year...

"Night Air" is awesome. Can't decide whether I like the original or the Ramadanman remix more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dhPuid9e4Q

^^^

Shoestring-budget tribute to an imaginary Wonderlove album has been in my head all week

Sweet J*Davey video for the standout on Evil Christian Cops; Raincheck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsP2z1ikWls

"The Story" is so great. Other songs on that ep are pretty good too.

Don't know "The Story"?? I just got the d/l from here http://jdavey.bandcamp.com/album/evil-christian-cop-the-great-mistapes

Kinda enjoying the Nirvana cover after a few listens.

whoa that KING track is so good, who are they??

i mean, i'm looking on the internet right now at who they are but you know

xp, Sorry, I was talking about the revive before yours, about King.

The King EP is so fucking good. Pretty much had it on repeat all day.

i'm really impressed with this album right now - http://boglewaltz.bandcamp.com/album/boglewaltz-we-came-for-the-music - some gorgeous sounds and vocals on there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgfUt3RHsk8

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRoIgFaK5MY

this is cool, dude is Erykah Badu's bassist on the New Amerykah albums!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8nuH6SKtNU

would rather it didn't have the SUPER LO-FI production, though.. reminds me of Cody ChestnuTT. Apparently his whole album will be produced by Flying Lotus (!!!) so definitely one to look out for.

Also, don't know if this was posted but it's dope:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rbGreE943c

The whole EP is worth checking out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5obqJqUfa-Q

similarly,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puW4cs3qLSs

i think bonjay maybe qualify for this thread, been playing this a lot lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we_WRUIYeKE

bonjay = fucking awesome. stumble and its video are A++ good, creepin is awesome too. want a full album from them.

Wow that Thundercat thing sounds like it was taken from Stanley Clarke's Journey To Love, it's great. Still making my mind up on Fatima.

Agree on Thundercat. I've been digging Bonjay too. That Amalia track is new to me...and it's GRAND.

Brain, love Fatima's "Warm Eyes", cheers for that.

haha i don't feel like clicking under the cut but i'm pretty sure i posted some fatima tracks last year

this is her new one fyi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL4wijBqBhw

Yeah you did Lex, I remember.

I think I like her in classicist breezy mode more than in #based mode which seems to be her more common m.o. though she's pretty good either way.

yeah i agree - best things i've heard by her are her guest vocals on shafiq husayn's "lil girl" and scratcha dva's "just vybe", where she can really get her teeth into a song that stands up

Yeaaaaah, loving that Thundercat. Immediately thought of My Mans Stanley Clarke!

How have I been sleeping on Slakah the Beatchild. Oh. My. God.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdfhPnnNmjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfqGdHdecLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByNFaTUNmRA

this is a jam y'all: http://soundcloud.com/allnaturalinc/proh-mic-turn-it-over-feat

really felling this. keyboard solo and special fx are awes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svZMb3zc__s

heard a few more of their songs and they're nice, but imo, kinda dated and too 'nice'. sounds a lot like dwele or something

http://www.mpmsite.com/?area=artists&view=detail&id=292

^ more songs

Dig the song. They sure were in a rush to get to the solo.

http://official-inc.com/

"SOMETIMES IN THE AFTERNOON WE LIKE TO PLAY JAZZ."

http://defgray.bandcamp.com/track/lunar-sun-light

ayoooo

The male voice there... eurrghh. Great otherwise.

Szjerdene over Dimlite: http://szjerdene.bandcamp.com/track/leilas-tale

Thought I had linked to this but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ume677WIWr8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJf-5hRwBfQ

Loving dude's EP so much.

sounds like stbrkt or jamie woon or those guys more than R&B.

something a bit bland about it too

this is dope, ur crazy