But.. how about other stuff? I'm not a very big Merry Go Round fan, and like I said, I haven't heard the second album.
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:12 (eighteen years ago) link
― dan bunnybrain (dan bunnybrain), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 00:16 (eighteen years ago) link
I've been aboard for years and prefer "Mirror" over the first. If you can find it, I say buy it.
― kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:16 (eighteen years ago) link
Does anyone know what ever happened to him? I think he's still alive and after a 4th album whose name escapes he pretty much disappeared from music. And considering he was a teenager when he started that must've put him in his early 20's at that point.
― Jacobo Rock (jacobo rock), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:45 (eighteen years ago) link
― youn, Tuesday, 31 January 2006 01:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link
I have heard that Rhino Handmade or Hip-o-Select are working on a box of all his stuff which I'm looking forward to.
Finally, just found this interview from 1997 which might be of interest
http://www.buhdge.com/audio%20buhdge/rhodes_audio.htm
― mms (mms), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link
i'd like him better if his name was "emit," as in emit death rays from my intergalactic fender rhodes.
― hstencil (hstencil), Tuesday, 31 January 2006 19:59 (eighteen years ago) link
Just found this after finally getting as copy of his first record; it's one of the saddest things I've read in a while
http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=583&IssueNum=33
― sonofstan, Sunday, 16 September 2007 20:06 (sixteen years ago) link
there is a comp out now on Hip-O select which combines all three of the solo albums and some other things (although not everything) that apparently sounds amazing. I really love his first album.
― akm, Thursday, 28 May 2009 04:36 (fourteen years ago) link
kewl!
That's a good article ^up there too.
― wilter, Thursday, 28 May 2009 05:23 (fourteen years ago) link
'you take the dark out of the night' = amazing song
― iatee, Thursday, 28 May 2009 05:32 (fourteen years ago) link
Sad and kind of o_O interview on WFMU that aired today.
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 13 February 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link
i once had a long confused (maybe drunken) conversation with a friend where I said "this guy sounds more like mccartney than mccartney!" and my friend said "you think he sounds like mccartney? i don't hear that at all!" and we went back and forth for a long time. but it turned out i had been saying emmitt miller, the old minstrel "lovesick blues" guy and had completely confused my friend. true story!
― tylerw, Saturday, 13 February 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway, been meaning to get that hip-o comp -- worth it? i've only heard the s/t.
― tylerw, Saturday, 13 February 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link
i like that story. reminds me of the time when i was drunk and i kept saying something like: "i hate george clinton! why does everyone love george clinton so much! i don't trust him!" and my friends looked at me weird cuz i meant to say bill clinton.
― scott seward, Saturday, 13 February 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link
I can only imagine what a mindf**k of a record McCartney and Rhodes would've made together if they had joined forces back in the day.
― François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 13 February 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
but it turned out i had been saying emmitt miller, the old minstrel "lovesick blues" guy and had completely confused my friend. true story!
haha!
― lukevalentine, Saturday, 13 February 2010 21:19 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZIjbRj8xs
― lukevalentine, Saturday, 13 February 2010 21:20 (fourteen years ago) link
anyway, Emmit Rhodes s/t is absolute classic, it includes "Somebody Made For Me" one of my all time favorite pop songs
I like This American Dream as well
― lukevalentine, Saturday, 13 February 2010 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
what's interesting about that FMU interview? i can't listen to it right now. worth it?
― by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 14 February 2010 00:12 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTHgr19CaRk
― Cut Creator Has A Master Plan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 June 2011 14:20 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe that should have its own thread.
― Cut Creator Has A Master Plan (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 June 2011 14:32 (twelve years ago) link
Been listening to the Hip-O-Select. The American Dream drags a little but the s/t is great and don't notice too much of a dropoff in quality in the other two.
― James & Bobby Quantify (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 15 June 2011 14:52 (twelve years ago) link
anyone ever see this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLL8CsVeOiE
― buzza, Sunday, 27 January 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
No!
― Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 28 January 2013 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
Awesome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLYUJbvBFU4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypoMlWQ9xwU
― Gay Briton (Tom D.), Wednesday, 8 October 2014 16:08 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL4Tcw77LNo
― velko, Sunday, 1 July 2018 00:03 (five years ago) link
dope
― billstevejim, Sunday, 1 July 2018 02:33 (five years ago) link
I'd wondered for eons why this guy disappeared after 1973, and just read that his ABC contract demanded 6 albums over the span of 3 years and he couldn't keep up. They sued him and he started working behind the scenes instead. Imagine chasing a guy this talented away from a recording career because he worked slowly. jfc!
― Johnny Fever, Sunday, 26 January 2020 10:37 (four years ago) link
RIPhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emitt_Rhodes
― Kibbutzki (Jaap Schip), Sunday, 19 July 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link
RIP Emitt.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 July 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
https://www.brooklynvegan.com/emitt-rhodes-rip/
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link
True but then I wonder why he didn't reduce his workload by just getting Leland Sklar and Waddy Wachtel and whoever to play on his records instead of trying to do everything himself - he'd even taken up the saxophone on his final (70s) album!
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 July 2020 23:42 (three years ago) link
He was really into doing stuff by himself. I actually was just looking at my vinyl Farewell To Paradise (his last album for ABC/Dunhill), and his liner notes are very defensive about controlling all aspects of his music as an artist.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 July 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link
I've always been amazed he never found work as a professional songwriter, but I guess he was a little too early for that to be a viable career path.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 19 July 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link
Farewell To Paradise liner notes (for context, I believe he already been sued by ABC/Dunhill for breach of contract before recording the album)
If gold is valuable because it is scarce, then sincerity must even be more valuable because there is so precious little of it. I'm seldom attracted to liner notes. I've only taken the time to read just a few...those I have, in so many words, praised whomever for his or her musical genius. I find it difficult to do the same.If I possess a talent, it surely must be patience. Someone said something about the world stepping aside when a man knew what he wanted. I've known for some time and the world hasn't yet made it any easier for me. Those things I cherish most I worked long and paid dearly for. I am a recording artist not just a songwriter or musician. I have taken total responsibility of my art. Avoiding the temptation of using others to conceal my weaknesses. My works are sincere and entirety my own.
If I possess a talent, it surely must be patience. Someone said something about the world stepping aside when a man knew what he wanted. I've known for some time and the world hasn't yet made it any easier for me. Those things I cherish most I worked long and paid dearly for. I am a recording artist not just a songwriter or musician. I have taken total responsibility of my art. Avoiding the temptation of using others to conceal my weaknesses. My works are sincere and entirety my own.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 July 2020 00:22 (three years ago) link
Re-Upping broken Youtubes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgmioAfzhXE
The Merry-Go-Round on Hollywood Palace w/Don Knotts
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 July 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link
Cool! Have The Bangles weighed in yet?
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link
Susanna tweeted, but she's the only one I follow. Dunno about the others.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 July 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link
"Birthday Lady" promo film
"Really Wanted You" promo film.
I remember seeing a clip of him on the Whistle Test, but it's not up atm.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 July 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link
There's also a Palace Guard clip up ("Falling Sugar") but I don't think Rhodes is in it. The guy miming drums doesn't look like him.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 July 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link
That Brooklyn Vegan notice has some good stuff but too many popups. They do have vimeo embeds though, so there's that. Anyway here is a link to the doc, The One Man Beatles. https://vimeo.com/266426996
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 03:42 (three years ago) link
This is probably his last interview: https://mediumfidelitymusic.wordpress.com/2020/07/19/example-post-3
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 04:07 (three years ago) link
Flatmate who confirmed his passing is in the vimeo.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 04:13 (three years ago) link
― buzza, Sunday, January 27, 2013 3:46 PM
― Leopard Skin POLL-Box Hat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, January 27, 2013
will finally watch this!
― buzza, Monday, 20 July 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link
It's kind of bittersweet and sad and depressing- surprise! - but well-done and affectionate. Now is a perfect time to watch.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link
A few of the singles off the last album, none of which I have listened to yet, are credited to Emitt Rhodes, Richard Thompson and The Bangles. Not 100% sure what this means.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link
Seems to mean backing vox by Vicki and Debbi Peterson and electric guitar by Richard Thompson. Pretty nice.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 04:52 (three years ago) link
They're stray singles from a project just prior to that last album, with Thompson & The Bangles featured guests.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 July 2020 04:52 (three years ago) link
Seems like two of the three songs on the singles are on the album as well.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link
His voice seems to have followed the opposite trajectory of that of Alex Chilton’s.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 05:02 (three years ago) link
XP My bad. I misread something about them not being cut for or included on that album.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 July 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link
They were released and then pulled a few years earlier because of a legal issue.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 20 July 2020 05:05 (three years ago) link
I’m feeling some kind of connection with Arthur Alexander, don’t know if it’s just a simple connecting of dots: huge talent with a gift for melody and melancholy but no head for business, gone into hiding for decades, some kind of last comeback that is artistically successful but goes nowhere or is cut short, the word “rainbow.”
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 05:15 (three years ago) link
jeez, that doc was so sad
― buzza, Monday, 20 July 2020 08:48 (three years ago) link
Which one was it? Original YT link seems to be gone from your 2013 post
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 July 2020 09:07 (three years ago) link
posted above by JRatB https://vimeo.com/266426996
― buzza, Monday, 20 July 2020 09:11 (three years ago) link
Ah I see, thx buzza
― Scampidocio (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 20 July 2020 09:22 (three years ago) link
RIP, one of the great one-man bands. Also non-LP single Tame The Lion is one of the great anti-war songshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q81q4AkmEaw
― J. Sam, Monday, 20 July 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link
A little more from the guy who did that last interview, with a cameo by Paul Schrader. https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/07/emitt-rhodes-dead/
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link
Doc was so sad it gave me nightmares. Well I might have had them anyway but still.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link
guy did some nice stuff i've listened to last couple days (i def mustve heard a bit over the years), but why curse anyone with 'One Man Beatles'?
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link
Yeah, stupid title. Also I'd like to read something about Emitt Rhodes that doesn't mention Paul McCartney for a change.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 20 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
i think the title probably says more about how his biggest fans perceive him. i've known a handful of beatles worshippers who are so tragically devout that it's almost like nothing else will do and acts like emmitt rhodes, badfinger, and ELO just kind of fill this void for them.
― budo jeru, Monday, 20 July 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link
never any love for key's "fit me in" though
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 20 July 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link
Some fun promo videos of his popping up on Twitter:
RIP Emitt Rhodes "Really Wanted You," 1971 promo video. Fare thee well, Mr. Rhodes. Thank you for all the great music. pic.twitter.com/K8JQa9wjiY— Nikki Kreuzer (@NikkiKreuzer) July 19, 2020
RIP Emitt Rhodes. Heres's a 1971 promo film for Birthday Lady, somewhat surprisingly filmed at Bristol Temple Meads. The full thing is here https://t.co/Wg2ntgBjG9 and here's a promo for Really Wanted You also filmed at BTM https://t.co/u5ETQoEe4Q pic.twitter.com/y0jXOAns89— Birmingham 81 (@Birmingham_81) July 19, 2020
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 00:37 (three years ago) link
Some fun video promos of his popping up on Twitter:
Cool. Never cared about Counting Crows, but I have a newfound fondness for their bass player for his work with Emitt.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
The doc is kind of depressing and Emitt was depressed and yet the older Emitt doesn’t seem like a betrayal of the younger one, rather a natural extension thereof and there is something eminently lovable about his withdrawn yet warm presence, if I may allow myself to go there.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 03:03 (three years ago) link
I mean some Beatles fans might as well be Zappa or Dead fans, they way they go on.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link
PersonnelEmitt Rhodes: All instruments and voices.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link
Keith Olsen is an interesting interview – “Where’s the charm?” he asks when told that Emitt was working with other musicians after 40 years in an actual studio.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link
I think I expected that documentary to be more depressing than it was. Rhodes is a depressive but not smotheringly so. And hey, he did do an album, even if it’s hard for me to reconcile the “To Make You Feel My Love”-esque vibe of that material with anything he did earlier in his career.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link
Right, exactly.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link
https://tapeop.com/interviews/33/keith-olsen/
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8reWSwi_gFA
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link
The first solo record never gets old for me. I should give Mirror more of a chance. If it hasn’t been done yet, somebody should interview Keith Olsen about Curt Boettcher before he kicks the bucket too. Boettcher worked on Rhodes’ S/T.
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 14:52 (three years ago) link
Olsen just died in March unfortunately.
― city worker, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link
goddammit
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link
"Mirror" is as good as the first album, in my opinion, a bit less twinkly but that's a good thing.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
I was finally listening to Mirror as a separate entity within the box last night. Sounded good. Saw that about Keith Olsen last night, RIP. He was so good in the doc. He was kind of super-grouchy about the whole thing but you could clearly see the affection there, or so I imagined.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
I didn't realize (until reading about him after the documentary) that Olsen also played bass on The Music Machine's "Talk Talk" and that first album.
― city worker, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link
Me neither.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
This ipre-Music Machine tidbit is interesting too, from his NYT obit: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/12/arts/music/keith-olsen-dies.html
He studied music at the University of Minnesota but left to play bass in different bands and toured with the singer Gale Garnett before joining the Music Machine
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link
I guess what is appealing here is the kind of classic sitcom love/hate/Ernie/Bert/Felix/Oscar duality here between a world-class producer/ engineer and an idiosyncratic DIY depressive
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link
Who were joined at the hip for a few minutes there in some fashion. "Where's the charm?" indeed.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link
Adding to the Fleetwood Mac connections, Richard Dashut worked w/Olsen on Farewell To Paradise.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:12 (three years ago) link
...which I'm spinning rn, and I must say whenever Rhodes isn't being a surprisingly good soulboi, these acoustic-based tracks seriously look ahead to the s/t Mac LP. FWIW, Olsen/Dashut we're working on Buckingham-Nicks at roughly the same time.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
Has this been mentioned yet?https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/arts/music/emitt-rhodes-singer-dies.html
He had worked as a staff producer for the Elektra label, producing an album for the Canadian performer Bim and a 1976 novelty single by the actor and comedian Gabe Kaplan, “Up Your Nose” — a catchphrase from Mr. Kaplan’s hit TV show, “Welcome Back, Kotter.”
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/justinfielding/videos/10157640042786680
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/alexjulesHELLO/videos/10110075241067939
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link
Wow. Love seeing/hearing him singing along with that piano
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that was really sweet.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link
He appeared on the David Frost Show on January 20th, 1972... along with Joseph Bologna and Vittorio De Sica!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1763979/
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link
Feel like I just saw some of that, maybe it's in the doc?Other relatively recent ER recordings out there, his rendition of "How Can You Mend a Broken Heart" for a Bee Gees tribute, recording of "Time Will Show the Wiser" with Iain Matthews on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Vernier_Band_Sessions.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
I guess I posted video of him strumming guitar for that Bee Gees thing yesterday.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link
Truth be told I don’t usually go for the one man band thing, for one thing in the case of Macca I’d prefer if he had somebody named Ringo or Jim on drums, and I resisted it in Emitt’s case quite a bit, but if that’s the way he wanted to go than I’ll have to take it, ultimately sounds pretty good. Splits the difference between Elliott Smith and Prince in their one man band incarnations.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link
i briefly thought a poll along the lines of “best album where every part is performed by a single person” would be a good idea until i remembered this place is overrun by the sort of people who would ruin the fun by voting exclusively for klaus schulze records or something
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link
No doubt.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
anyway your posts since the revive have been a pleasure and frequently otm, thanks James
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
Thanks! But listening to the Vic Damone version of “Farewell to Paradise” right now, let’s see how we all feel after I get through that.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
One list thing before for now. Found this old school fan page that has some good photos on it. Enjoy! http://www.emittrhodesmusic.net/
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link
Before I go for now.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 03:23 (three years ago) link
That site has photos of The Merry Go Round performing - and competing! -on The Dating Game, which I don't think has been mentioned on this thread.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 12:45 (three years ago) link
Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT_Q2YNHFug
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link
Emitt in the center, Joel Larson over on the right.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link
...and on the left is Rick Dey, who co-wrote "Just Like Me" by Paul Revere, and who later died in the '70s by overdosing on nitrous whippits at a party.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:01 (three years ago) link
Thanks. Btw you were right about the Bangles/Richard Thompson collabos, those versions are different from what was released on the album.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
This playlist has pretty much everything Emitt did, although not “Listen, Listen” for some reason, which doesn’t seem to be on Spotify. https://open.spotify.com/user/toddrawson/playlist/6FzdMIavNLfZYH7zKt0DTn?si=p7wTRpyMT1y-PkJmpx-k-w
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
There was a comp called Listen, Listen that had the Merry-Go-Round album, singles-only stuff like "Listen, Listen" and "Missing You" along with what I think of as the 0th Emitt album, the Wrecking Crew stuff released as The American Dream, but that comp didn't seem to make it to the streamscape.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link
yes, put out by the great joe foster's rev-ola label.
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
I don't have anything by him, but I must have flipped past this album a million times in 99-cent bins in the late-'70s/early-'80s. One of many I stupidly passed over.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Emitt-Rhodes_Mirror.jpg
― clemenza, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link
I am starting to suffer from a little bit of withdrawal now that the well of internet Emitt ephemera seems to be running dry (Note to budo jeru, I never considered myself the biggest fan or fanboy, but something about the highly functional under-achieving mild depressive I can relate to for some reason)
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
FB says he had been planning to marry his fiancée of a decade after teh COVID-19.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link
Also Bangles page reposted Debbi's post and one of the first responses was by F.J. McMahon.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link
wow that's fucking way cool !
― budo jeru, Thursday, 23 July 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link
Thought it might be somebody with the same name but it was totally him.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 03:10 (three years ago) link
Wait, who is FJ McMahon?
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 23 July 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link
You never heard Spirit of the Golden Juice? One-off 1969 Vietnam-vet lost psych/folk or folk/psych cratedigger classic.
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 12:49 (three years ago) link
― Left Eye Frizzell (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
Um, HI DERE!
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
i can't believe FJ mcmahon is just on facebook
― budo jeru, Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
Ha, yeah exactly
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
anyway
a little bit of withdrawal now that the well of internet Emitt ephemera seems to be running dry
i still haven't made it through everything you've shared / referenced here, so perhaps you can share my anticipation vicariously
― budo jeru, Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
Thanks. I found one more thing of interest. May try to wait a beat before posting.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
Will say one thing though: depressive or no-depressive, guy always had great hair.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link
I'm back. I can't help it.(He can't help it, James Redd can't help it)
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
Listening to the tribute on SiriusXM Volume West. Michael Des Barres compared Emitt to Nick Drake, fair enough. Chris Price, who produced his last album telling interesting stories about how he met Emitt and about Emitt's day job at Mike Nesmith's Elektra studio where among other things he engineered Judee Sill's third and last and unfinished for a few decades album.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link
Keep getting this Chris Price mixed up with Chris Thomas and Bill Price.
This interview is great. Clears up a lot of stuff.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
The three Bangles/Richard Thompson recordings were an offshoot of the recording sessions shown in the doc which, as C. Grisso/McCain pointed out, were pulled because of litigation. Rainbow Ends was actually recorded a few years later, this time in Emitt's home studio but with outside musicians coming in.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link
So hopefully Keith Olsen was satisfied charm-wise.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
Two videos I cherry-picked off fan page coming up
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPHIsrjh84Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcs78yiq_s8
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link
The bandleader on the latter was his flatmate who reported his passing, I think.
The one-two closing punch on the Collected Contiguous Works of titular album closer "Farewell to Paradise" and the non-LP "Tame the Lion" is really strong. Vic Damone version of "Farewell to Paradise" is not bad either. And, sorry if I'm late to the party, but slowly starting to think his lyrics are pretty strong, sometimes seemingly formulaic at first blush, but open closer examination often a cut above.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link
I kind of want to join the Official Fan Forum, but then maybe I will feel more guilty about picking off their stuff.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 04:02 (three years ago) link
Seems like there is no approval process so I am in!
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link
Now more photos show up in my feed.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 04:07 (three years ago) link
join and just keep posting the good stuff here, you have our blessing
― budo jeru, Friday, 24 July 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link
Okay, I don't know if you consider a video of photos posted by his friend "good stuff" but here it is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uarlsqwCtXQ
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link
Think the group is public anyway so you can see everything anyway, just more likely to see stuff as a member and I can chime in if I really feel the need.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link
Listening to the tribute on SiriusXM Volume West. Michael Des Barres compared Emitt to Nick Drake, fair enough. Chris Price, who produced his last album telling interesting stories about how he met Emitt and about Emitt's (-day-) job at Mike Nesmith's Elektra studio where among other things he engineered Judee Sill's third and last and unfinished for a few decades album.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 24 July 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link
Also, that makes sense re. Rainbow’s End being recorded later – the doc was 2010-11 and the record wasn’t released until 2016 or so. Seems fitting that he got fucked by the industry right to the end. Re. his lyrics, I agree – one of my favorite tunes of his has always been “Live Til You Die,” but it was only this week that I really listened to the lyrics, poss. with an eye toward his innate unhappiness. In retrospect they feel a bit like him shouting into the abyss:I have to say the things I feel, ohI have to feel the things I sayYou must live till you die, you must fight to surviveYou must live till you die, you must feel to be aliveYou must live till you dieSee the sun rising in the east, welcome warm daysFeel my heart flying every time we're alone, babeEverything around me has been changing soI can't let go, oh no, noYou must live till you die, you must fight to surviveYou must live till you die, you must feel to be aliveYou must live till you dieFeel the earth trembling, have you heard distant thunder?Everything's moving what's this feeling I'm underEverything around me has been changing soI can't let go, oh no, noYou must live till you die, you must fight to surviveYou must live till you die, you must feel to be aliveYou must live till you die, you must live till you dieI have to spin the spinning wheel, I have to kneel that wayI have to say the things I feel, I have to feel the things I sayYou must live till you die, you must fight to surviveYou must live till you die, you must feel to be aliveYou must live till you die
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 24 July 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link
OTM. He even had a way with titles. I finally learned yesterday whilst listening to the Chris Price interview- in the SiriusXM Volume West archive, through Sonos, that the last album is in fact called Rainbow Ends.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
Here is some kind of “official” playlist of covers of his songs (it’s owner/creator is listed as Emitt Rhodes), in case we didn’t have it linked here yet. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5rYo0km9q4cWvoN6jRQDqg?si=bPs83hgoRL-Vg8QejiGotg
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link
Maybe Emitt and not Elvis Costello is the real Cole Porter of Rock.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 14:04 (three years ago) link
Hope you folks watched "One Man Beatles" before it went off of vimeo because of you.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
Am I allowed to say I don’t care for any of his 2000’s work? As noted, it’s great he recorded anything again. And I’m sure I could find some parallels with his earlier work if I squinted hard enough. But honestly I’m not really sure I want to.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 24 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
That Bangles cover of Live really hits the spot.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 24 July 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link
I’ve heard that cover many times through listening to the album it is on, but it has been hitting the spot for me these days too.No worries if you don’t like the latter-day material, it’s sonically so different. I like it much more than most comebacks. Not sure if it is up there with Arthur Alexander, who I mentioned upthread but it’s close.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link
Meant to say it’s in the running
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 24 July 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link
Lefsetz weighs in
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 25 July 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
Somebody quoted that whole thing on the fan group, maybe the bass player on Rainbow Ends and several people thanked him for expressing himself so beautifully
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link
Hot off the presses! youtube.com/watch?v=MJu1yaIQZr4
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJu1yaIQZr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJu1yaIQZr4
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2020 20:40 (three years ago) link
Handsome young chap. Weird to have him singing and playing to a backing track though.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Saturday, 25 July 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
Those are those Whistle Test clips I was talking about upthread! From one of the first episodes, iirc. There used to be an account on YouTube that had at least about 70-80 uncut episodes, presumably taken from original tapes (had the official BBC countdown leader and title cards), which was where I first saw it.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 25 July 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link
Another red hot release, coming right up!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXy9xOc-rxQ
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2020 23:02 (three years ago) link
He’s a little out of sorts for this interview but it’s as expected with what we know about him by now and ultimately still charming.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 July 2020 23:45 (three years ago) link
At the end Michael Shelley says the 2010 interview was one of his favorites and that somebody made a Youtube video with pictures of ER in the background. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfqEhZO7I3w
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link
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― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link
This interview is indeed O_o. Fasten your seatbelts before listening.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link
Which reminds me I just came across this:
In 2001, Rhodes and his daughter were in a car accident after Rhodes lapsed into a diabetic coma while his car was stopped a stoplight. The car rolled into a truck and crashed.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs)
he mentions that accident the first time he shows up in that doc!
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link
Hm, barely remember that, don't know what else I was doing while I was watching, thanks. Before I sign off for today, here's a link to a Steve Hoffman thread discussion, about some of his business troubles, mostly involving management and publishing: https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/emitt-rhodes-on-hip-o-select.182344/page-7
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 01:05 (three years ago) link
Maybe I was in a pre-diabetic coma myself.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link
I still remember how excited I was to hear that 2010 interview on WFMU and then being just completely flattened and bummed out by it. Rough stuff.
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Sunday, 26 July 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link
I suspect, based on his fearful and pretty nasty homophobic comments in this and one other interview I’ve read online, comments uttered without any sort of “one of the boys” jokiness, that Rhodes went through or witnessed some physical abuse that fucked him up. Or possibly he was repressed? Who knows? And this is on top of all the record contract grief. He just reads like a heavily battle-scarred person. Sad.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 26 July 2020 07:38 (three years ago) link
I mean...
https://scrammagazine.com/emitt-rhodes/
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 26 July 2020 07:40 (three years ago) link
emitt makes an appearance at around 1:45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNyoAyo9088
― budo jeru, Sunday, 26 July 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/OIlRtDo.png
from p. 9 here:
http://krlabeat.sakionline.net/issue/4dec65.pdf
― budo jeru, Sunday, 26 July 2020 08:49 (three years ago) link
so david beaudoin actually wrote a book in 1997 about his experience with the palace guard and the hullabaloo. based on the title, i wonder if he talks about the sexual abuse that emitt brings up in those two interviews:
https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1550493239l/1589699._SX318_.jpg
― budo jeru, Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:00 (three years ago) link
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee)
i don't know emitt's life or what he went through.
i know there are many, many kinds of trauma and abuse - physical, sexual, emotional - and they are all damaging. i know that trauma and abuse is far more common, particularly in cishet-identifying men, than is readily acknowledged. i know there is a lot about rhodes' life that i have seen, uh, very commonly in, particularly, amabs who have gone through trauma and abuse, who are socialized to handle trauma and abuse in a certain way, for whom trauma and abuse are _normalized_.
i know that trauma and abuse is not a matter of "victims" and "abusers" but is a cycle, a pattern of behavior, that is instilled. i am not surprised to learn of the things that emitt rhodes has to say about gay people. whatever he went through, whatever brought him to that point, i think he is responsible for what he has said and done, and i do not think anything he may or may not have done exculpates him.
i very much enjoy much of emitt rhodes' music. i am saddened, but not surprised, to learn how difficult his life wound up being, how much hurt and pain he went through, and i am glad that he is not suffering anymore.
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 09:07 (three years ago) link
Man, reading that long interview the good Capitaine Jay Vee posted. Every time I see the name of the manager who messed him up I keep thinking "the bass player for the Monks!?" Sorry, my mind has a mind of its own.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
I am still a little 🤯 after listening to the 2010 interview and reading that other interview.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
On a lighter note, that interview also has this great exchange: Kim: Your label mate, at the time, over at A&M was Phil Ochs, who was going kind of psychedelic…Emitt: Nobody liked Phil Ochs. Did you like Phil Ochs?Edwin: I loved his music.Kim: I heard he was a horrible human being, by all accounts, but I still liked his records.Emitt: You mean you liked him??(The waiter walked up at this point to ask if we needed anything and Emitt addressed him.)Emitt: Ever heard of Phil Ochs?Waiter: Uhhh…Emitt: How old are you?Waiter: I’m nineteen.Emitt: No, you’ve never heard of Phil Ochs. Forget it.(The waiter left and we continued this thread)
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 July 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link
...and this:
Kim: But you’d go back in time and kill Hitler?Emitt: (chortling) Oh, I’d kill Hitler, no prob! I’d kill Saddam Hussein. Show him to me, I’ll go for him. (drives his butter knife against table repeatedly)Kim: Put the knife down.
Emitt: (chortling) Oh, I’d kill Hitler, no prob! I’d kill Saddam Hussein. Show him to me, I’ll go for him. (drives his butter knife against table repeatedly)
Kim: Put the knife down.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 July 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link
Are you posting that to go with NTI's "lighter note" or...?
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
the things that count as "a lighter note" these days...
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
Well, I thought it was funny (like a Simpsons gag..."Dad, put the butter knife down...")
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
well, it wasn't funny when my wife said it to me this week.
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link
Reading that interview (and remembering others with him), I get the feeling he had to have been an aspie. The stubbornness, the feel for perfectionism, going from zero to tmi so rapidly in conversation...
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link
Ya think?
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link
going from zero to tmi so rapidly in conversation...
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain)
haha, now are you talking about rhodes or about me? :)
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link
Relatedly, there was this in that interview:Edwin: What other instruments do you play besides guitar, piano, bass and drums?Emitt: Nothing. Is there anything?? For me it’s one-four-five. It’s Pythagorean Theorum. For me it’s mathematics. I love Pythagoras. Everybody else in rock and roll loves Pythagoras, too, even if they don’t know it. I’m just telling you that Pythagoras was a wonderful guy. He lived a long time ago, nobody knows him and nobody cares. He gave us do re mi fa sol la ti do. Without him… somebody else would have had to do it. I love math. I love science. I love that stuff.Edwin: Yeah, math and music are pretty much synonymous.Emitt: It’s Pythagoras. You split the string in half and you get an octave. You split it into thirds and you get a third.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link
the homophobic shit in those interviews is so heinous, and ER brings it up so abruptly, it's just really difficult to read.
― budo jeru, Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
That is really unpleasant, and the grandiose I Am A Scientist stuff doesn’t help any.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link
its always amusing to me when dudes in music learn like one scientific term or basic concept, and then immediately imagine themselves as a timeless polymath renaissance man. "I bring so many disciplines to bear on my music - art, history, science. For example, like Nicola Tesla, I too think outside the box when creating my music."
― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
OTM. I started a whole thead about this. Math & Music: The Severed Alliance. Some Recent Academic Approaches (Do Not Read If You Hate Drums) I guess my thinking about it ended up being, "yes, there is some relationship between math and music, but it is vastly overstated by various people for various people and there are very smart people who are on record as saying that this relationship is vastly overstated."
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link
It's like the "I am smart so I can deduce everything from first principles."
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
I'm axiomatic, like Euclid.
Ilx0r Euclid, Euler to thread!
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link
Not to throw more fuel on the fire, but wondering how long it will take for this kidney stone of information to pass through my system.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
Ilx0r (-Euclid-), Euler to thread!
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 01:30 (three years ago) link
Real quiet on this thread today
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link
Yeah, a little too quiet
That interview with Scram magazine is pretty horrific. The whole sexual abuse story he tells, the bit about the guy who was abused getting arrested outside the club where they had played as teenagers with a bomb or explosives, wtf? Also, though they've censored the names of the people involved it's fairly easy to find out who they are - and the guy he accuses of the abuse is still alive.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
I saw that. He was named after Gary Cooper!
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link
The interview is from 2016, so nothing seems to have happened about these accusations. Not that Emitt Rhodes in 2016 is any kind of reliable witness on anything. judging by that interview.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
Sorry, that’s the kind of datum my Aspie mind gravitates to when there is some horrific reality I don’t feel that comfortable discussing.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
Sometimes some of those uncensored names show up on the Fan Page, but mostly just echoing Emitt. Can’t seem to find anything about the contents of that book.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
Are you sure that interview is from 2016? I don't remember seeing a date, thought it was older. Here's another interview, not sure if it was linked yet, not sure if I need to read another interview with him right now myself: https://thelosangelesbeat.com/2012/04/long-time-no-see-los-angeles-beat-exclusive-interview-with-emitt-rhodes-part-1-of-2/
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
This popped up recently and there are even some rumors about who it is about:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiQs3yKfys8
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link
xp i'm actually not sure if emitt is actually in the video i posted.
i started reading a lot about the palace guard, orange-empire records, and the hullabaloo to find out more about the scene that was going on. it's particularly disturbing how much the contemporary promotion hypes the fact that it's a place for the TEENS, where the KIDS can finally come hang out after hours and see their favorite pop groups.
― budo jeru, Monday, 27 July 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
(xxp) Might not be 2016, thought I saw that somewhere.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link
Seems like with the political references being made that Scram interview was from the mid-2000s, possibly around the time the Rev-Ola Merry-Go-Round comp came out.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link
these two quotes appear right next to each other in kate sullivan's 2001 oral history of KROQ:
GARY BOOKASTA (founder, KROQ AM and FM): We wanted to call it "KROK," but it was already taken. It was [DJ] Humble Harve's idea to use the Q. He ended up killing his wife, but Phil Spector and I went to bat for him in court. He only got two years [for manslaughter]. SHADOE STEVENS (DJ, 1973-74, 1976-79): KROQ was the inspiration of Gary Bookasta. Gary was a con man. He had an almost mystical ability to make people believe in him. He pulled together 13 partners, who built this radio station in Burbank. It took off like a rocket.
SHADOE STEVENS (DJ, 1973-74, 1976-79): KROQ was the inspiration of Gary Bookasta. Gary was a con man. He had an almost mystical ability to make people believe in him. He pulled together 13 partners, who built this radio station in Burbank. It took off like a rocket.
― budo jeru, Monday, 27 July 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
Self-XP I see on the Scram site that the interview was put online in early '16, but issue of the mag it appeared in was published in 2003.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
yeah i mean why else would he express the desire to murder saddam hussein
― budo jeru, Monday, 27 July 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link
Yes, so those allegations have been out there for a hell of a long time.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
All of this is not seeming to have much effect on my ability to listen to his music this afternoon, somewhat surprisingly or not.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link
A lot of these things were an open secret – Bob Markley and the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band, Kim Fowley and the Runaways. I keep hoping Ugly Things will do an exposé on sexual abuse in 60s garage rock circles. It’s def. a part of the history.
This popped up recently and there are even some rumors about who it is about:📹
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 July 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link
I think every music scene ever has had creepy, manipulative older guys who hang around it - Markley and Fowley are textbook examples.
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
Where are these? I didn’t see anything in the comments.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
Back in the day, Fowley came over to hang out in Glasgow for some reason and had all these indie rock scenesters from the Pastels and Teenage Fanclub running about after him like he was some fucking genius - while he was trying to touch up all their girlfriends. He played some shit gig with Norman Blake on guitar and somebody from the BMX Bandits on bass or whatever and I remember someone saying after it, "Do you want to hang out with Kim?" and I was like, "I'm not going anywhere near that talentless cunt".
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 22:08 (three years ago) link
Good for you.
_Where are these? I didn’t see anything in the comments._Some family friend on FB Fan Page said it was about a decade older celebrity Emitt was dating that his dad didn’t like. Although a decade older than Emitt at the time is like what, mid-to-late twenties?
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 27 July 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
not only were there aspects of that scene that might have encouraged the presence of predatory behavior, it's precisely that, for fowley, being a sexual deviant / creep who bragged about hanging around high schools trying to pick up underage girls, that was all self-consciously part of his image / "appeal"
cf. the fugs' "dirty old man"
― budo jeru, Monday, 27 July 2020 23:16 (three years ago) link
Oh yes, definitely the 60s was perfect for these sorts of creeps, and eventually you end up with Manson .
― Sonny Shamrock (Tom D.), Monday, 27 July 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/YCrx84lPEG8/maxresdefault.jpg
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
cf. Charlie Chaplin and his brother Syd tbh.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 27 July 2020 23:29 (three years ago) link
I read the 2012 LA Beat interview (2 Parts, BTW). It's a bit different than the Scram one, way more deep-dive discussion about musical theory and science. Extra-Value stuff on the background of and what went wrong with the Bangles/Thompson singles, plus complaints about how poorly mastered he felt the Hip-O Select comp was.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 27 July 2020 23:38 (three years ago) link
Also something vaguely endearing about Rhodes using these interviews to finesse nice meals and drinks in sit-down restaurants.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link
'Nice' being relative since one of them was at Red Lobster.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link
he does seem to like drinking
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link
Yup. Probably not the best thing for a diabetic.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link
I don't usually go for these things, but this just appeared and is kind of sweet:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tnIxYw1HvI
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link
Moral of the story: guy was in general a much, much better editor of himself when he was composing and recording music then when he was talking trash whilst throwing his blood sugar further out of whack with one too many margaritas.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link
It makes total sense that even though he sounds so much like McCartney he is more of a Lennon loyalist. Let me go out on a challops limb and say that “Birthday Lady” is a much better written song than “Birthday.”
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:15 (three years ago) link
Guy on the fan group has a big box, a big stash of photos Emitt gave him that he is slowly posting one by one. Some pictures of him in the Emerals have gone up recently.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link
If you care about that, you don't actually have to join since the group is
PublicAnyone can see who's in the group and what they postVisibleAnyone can find this group.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
is there a link to this fan group ? where is the fan group ?
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 28 July 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
https://www.facebook.com/groups/377708406418400
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
Do not read if you hate home recordings of Emitt Rhodes's songs.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
I was trying to cherry-pick for y’all but maybe you want to see the raw data for yourselves.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:14 (three years ago) link
You can also go to the related pagehttps://www.facebook.com/EmittRhodes
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
DO U SEE?
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link
the fan group is an amazing spectacle, but i'm unsure how much of it has to do with my otherwise 0% exposure to facebook
like this one guy tried to correct a poster by informing him that emitt's first band was actually spelled emeralDs, and then when somebody pointed out that no it's actually the emerals he doubled down and said, "what, didn't they know how to spell ?" lmao like dude, just enjoy the photos of 14yo emitt
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 29 July 2020 09:02 (three years ago) link
Wonder if that dude will do that every time the other dude posts another pic of Emitt in his green Emerals shirt behind his green Emerals kit.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 13:10 (three years ago) link
Here's something interesting: those UK promo films were shot in Bristol, in Temple Meads Station.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link
Bristol Temple Meads
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 13:23 (three years ago) link
Anyone listen to this album he produced called Thistles, by Bim or BIM or B.I.M.? Just tried the first few tracks, not grabbing me.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link
Just Bim, it seems.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 July 2020 13:40 (three years ago) link
STE weights in, on Emitt and Peter Green. https://sterlewine.substack.com/p/farewell-to-emitt-rhodes-and-peter
Apparently Miss Mercy of the GTOs was a friend of Emitt's. Also just found this thread, budo jeru: One man albums
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link
At least according to Emitt's (best?) friend, who also made this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8oWG2wU9Yk
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link
Also meaning in addition to co-producing The One Man Beatles.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link
thanks for that thread link, James
i also checked out the bim record and failed to see the appeal
― budo jeru, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
I couldn’t get into it either. Think opinions on it are mixed
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link
Haha:
Anyone mention Emitt Rhodes yet?I admire any musician who can play drums - I don't admire drummers themselves, they're despicable.― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:15 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, July 10, 2003 12:15 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link
Those Emerals picks coming fast and furious. Also somebody let it slip that Emitt's fiancée owns that page, apparently.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link
xp does Dada(ismus) still post here, under a different name maybe ?
― budo jeru, Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:33 (three years ago) link
Pics. Pictures, not guitar picks, although who knows, maybe not just yet
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
Dada(ismus) posted on this very thread the other day. Tom D.
oh wow. that explains so much. love dada / tom's posts
― budo jeru, Thursday, 30 July 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link
Re. his lyrics, I agree – one of my favorite tunes of his has always been “Live Til You Die,” but it was only this week that I really listened to the lyrics, poss. with an eye toward his innate unhappiness. In retrospect they feel a bit like him shouting into the abyss:
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
This came through the wormhole: https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/2002/01/27/emitt-rhodes-lost-38/bd09f24e-7afd-4575-8ad0-0c0938c433c1/
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link
It's not typing! Google is my co-pilot:
Ever find yourself running, running, running awayEver find yourself hiding from the things that you feelEver hear yourself crying, crying, crying to someoneWon't you look down from Heaven, won't you prove you are real?Ever lose yourself searching, searching, searching in darknessWith your questions unanswered, never knowing the truthEver feel yourself dying, dying, dying a slow deathHeavy laden with burdens that are stealing your youthEver find yourself running, running, running awayEver find yourself hiding from the things that you feelEver find yourself running?
And I would agree ... one of the things I love about his lyrics is that they convey really heavy emotions and thoughts with an economy of vocabulary. So when you come across a couplet like "Heavy laden with burdens that are stealing your youth" you almost catch yourself to make sure you heard it right.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 30 July 2020 21:30 (three years ago) link
Yes indeed.Wonder which Beatles song(s) he actually sang with The Palace Guard. You see or hear "Michelle," "Yesterday," "Norwegian Wood" and "We Can Work It Out." The last one seems to have be mentioned that enough I'm inclined to believe it.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:01 (three years ago) link
If you don't like Bim, budo jeru, then you probably won't like this version of "Ever Find Yourself Running," by - wait for it - Marriage.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxorx0OLnzU
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 30 July 2020 22:30 (three years ago) link
Ciao, Paradiso!https://variety.com/2020/music/news/emitt-rhodes-appreciation-singer-songwriter-john-wirth-1234721593/
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 July 2020 02:59 (three years ago) link
That was great. Thanks for sharing!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 31 July 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that was really an A+ version of the classic Emitt encounter we've come to expect.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:05 (three years ago) link
I finally learned that The Merry-Go-Round had a couple of bass players, that Rick Dey replaced Bill Rinehart. I guess I think I knew Joel Larson came and went and there was another drummer at one point, couldn't tell you his name though.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 31 July 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link
xxpost Great piece! Thanks for sharing it.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 31 July 2020 08:40 (three years ago) link
Haven’t giving you anything in almost twenty-four hours so here is this little tidbit I have been saving
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link
I was afraid of that, didn’t quite work on the phone. Hang on a sec, please.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link
think this will work though
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link
Guys, come on over to my new thread
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link
Take us to lunch first.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link
Ha!
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link
There is a Mexican restaurant up the block that makes a good iced margarita with a nice view of the Empire State Building from the sidewalk seating that I think you will like.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 1 August 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
Feel like maybe NTI should give the last album another chance or two. Despite the deepening of the voice, the divorce discussion and the different production, underneath it all there is still his strong melodic sense.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link
In my mind “Isn’t It So” is getting mixed up with “Nobody Knows” by the Raspberries. Come to think of it, why isn’t Tim Ellison on this thread?
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link
I’ll def. give it another chance – I hadn’t realized this but the supporting cast alone is insane (Hoffs, most of Jellyfish, Aimee Mann – according to a review I saw). Isn’t It So finally clicked with me a week or so ago – the version I have on the Listen, Listen comp (recorded in 1980) has some questionable sax but a great chorus, and kind of suggests an alternate career as an MOR hitmaker. But the version on Rainbow Ends is nice as well, the strings give it a sadder, more elegiac feel.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 2 August 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link
Yes, those folks are all on there, although sometimes hard to pick them out of thie mix. This version, I assume. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhn_uXhtOn0Yes, I can see how the sax would be pretty off-putting.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link
But the vocal is excellent.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link
Some more stuff from that same period, apparently. Seems to be for some Elektra project, maybe. These really don't sit well with me although the second never reappeared in any other form as far as I know so may be worth giving a try.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG97BYSQ0JQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWIriVsDRXg
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link
Or this. Think this stuff has already been mentioned upthread.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPxbMaXOdoY
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
This seems an improvement.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzs7Crv_3bM
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link
Done a decade or two later.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 August 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link
Oh wow I’m loving the “all synths” Emitt Rhodes. Really cool.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 3 August 2020 06:13 (three years ago) link
Radio Moskow interview from Thanksgiving 2011. Interview starts about minute 70, music a few minutes before, maybe minute 67. https://echo.msk.ru/sounds/833165.html
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 12:28 (three years ago) link
Lasts about ten minutes. He's in good spirits.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link
Some serious ping-pong stereo on The Merry-Go-Round album, thought my earphones were broken for a moment.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link
As I converge upon the heat death of this thread, remarking that the versions of “You’re A Very Lovely Woman” on The Merry-Go-Round and on the, um zeroth solo album are exactly the same but one is maybe thirty seconds longer.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 4 August 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link
Some more stuff from that same period, apparently. Seems to be for some Elektra project, maybe. These really don't sit well with me although the second never reappeared in any other form as far as I know so may be worth giving a try.📹📹
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 5 August 2020 06:24 (three years ago) link
I read something similar. I even heard that two of the three songs were "Isn't It So" and "More Than A Smile Will Do."
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 5 August 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link
Finally listened to these. The "all synths" Emitt Rhodes is really more like Steely Emitt -- jazzy chords and melodies and heavy, er, Rhodes. "Isn't It So" is probably the best of the lot.
Here's a recent-ish interview that isn't online but the preview is: https://tapeop.com/interviews/33/emitt-rhodes/. Might be pretty interesting.
I'm finally putting on Farewell to Paradise ... will report back but I like some of the Mellotron stuff in the first few tracks.
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link
You have to subscribe to Tape Op to get the rest of that interview (and to find out where they ate).
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link
Speaking of "Steely Emitt", Gary Kato mentioned in the liners to the Merry Go Round comp that in the late '80s his band Bullet backed Rhodes on some "Steely Dan-quality" demos of new compositions.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 August 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link
Can't believe this only emerged within the last several hours. Jackie De Shannon singing "Live Till You DIe" - recorded at American Studios! Yet another dot to connect in my Arthur Alexander, um, "Theory."https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMPUQECIiIM
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link
Guess this stuff lay in the vaults until two years ago, Damn you, Emitt!https://jazzchill.blogspot.com/2018/04/jackie-deshannon-stone-cold-soulthe.html
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 August 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link
That cover came out as a bonus on the RPM reissue of Jackie’s “Songs” fifteen years ago or so, for what it’s worth.
― Tim, Friday, 7 August 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link
Thanks. Saw that a couple of, um, songs, from that session made it onto Songs, maybe they were even re-recorded, didn't know about bonus track reissues in the interim.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 August 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
So do you guys know where that house is on the self-titled cover?
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link
Also, um, one of Emitt's ex-wives seems to be a member of the Fan Forum.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2020 14:53 (three years ago) link
Definitely her.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link
that's interesting and also weird. will she tell her story ? will the fans be kind to her ?
the woman who took the photograph on the jackie deshannon album cover was married to composer teiji ito, maya deren's widower, and was the administrator of the deren estate until her death in 1999:
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/17/classified/paid-notice-deaths-ito-cherel-winett.html
― budo jeru, Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link
No to the first question. To the second question, they mostly turn a blind eye if they are aware of it at all. Although one person posted this on a thread she started:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEuiyOcGfz8
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 8 August 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link
His other ex-wife is on there too. I kind of feel unclean knowing this. Now that I have reported it, I will slink away in shame.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
...for Mexican Coffees at Red Lobster?
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:53 (three years ago) link
Ha, I saw that coming a few light years away, using my homebrew telescope. Do you know how a telescope works? Do you know what parallax is?
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 10 August 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link
I've read books.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 10 August 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
Heh.The other ex made it pretty clear she doesn't want her story told.
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
Wonder which one is heard at the end of “Bubble Gum The Blues.”
― Time Will Show Leo Weiser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 13 August 2020 04:21 (three years ago) link
So as this posthumous boom of interest is winding down for me, not much more info is emerging, mostly some intriguing photos from a friend Emitt had given them to, who is turning them over one by one like playing cards. Well, there was that one Xmas card from Emitt, his wife and first son posted by a guy who played with Billy Joel in the early ( Attila?) days. There is still the ever-present curious cat part of me that wants to hear the gory details of all of his family troubles but highly doubt these will come to light. Do feel after extensive (re)listening that despite the way his career played out his musical legacy is strong, that he was much more than just a stuntman, a footnote, a might-have-been, currently residing in the where-is-he-now file.
― Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 August 2020 08:09 (three years ago) link
There’s always a temptation to want to know more with these guys – to learn where and why things went off the rails and how it all maybe kind of could’ve ended differently. But I almost always find that when I do learn more—say, reading the Gene Clark, Dennis Wilson and Billy MacKenzie biographies—while I’m glad I dug deeper I’m invariably kind of bummed out and feel like I need to take a shower. Mental illness sucks that way. I feel comfortable concluding that learning more about Emitt would almost certainly end the same way.
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 16 August 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link
Otm
― Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 August 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
I feel a little bit like that already, just perusing the minimal posts of his exes.
― Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 August 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
There are a few nice pictures that keep emerging from various shoeboxes in the other place, including one of Emitt with what seems to be Jack Nitzsche along with this guy, https://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=288534&title+Harvey-Bruce-RIP, the man who signed Emitt and introduced him to Keith Olsen.
― Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
Nitzsche earlier arranged and/or produced one of the Palace Guard singles, which iirc he was dismissive of in the big interview/discography overview he did in the late '70s in BOMP!.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 25 August 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNLhvQvaoAU
― Isinglass Ponys (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 27 August 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link
Was thinking this thread would mention Emitt, but no: Thoughts on hum?
― Two Little Hit Parades (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 28 August 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
https://purepopradio.com/2017/08/25/pure-pop-radio-in-conversation-podcasts-emitt-rhodes-airdate-march-20-1997/
― Two Little Hit Parades (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 September 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link
I may watch this tribute thing at 3PM PDT on FB this evening.
― Quit It And Hit It Sideways (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 5 September 2020 13:39 (three years ago) link
Tribute was kind of touching if a little thrown together. In other news, pictures are showing up of Emitt's induction into the Hawthorne Hall of Fame, courtesy of his ex-wife and others. Most interesting is a picture of Emitt and his fiancée at a restaurant she liked- at LAX!
― Quit It And Hit It Sideways (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link
that was presumably the proud bird, which is actually next door to lax, with a view. a strange little la landmark.
― fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link
That’s the same place he went with the TV producer in 2006.
― Quit It And Hit It Sideways (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
Some people keep referring to the earlier version of "Isn't It So" as one of three songs, but I think they are confusing this with the three songs with Richard Thompson and the Peterson sisters.
― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 September 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link
Pretty good writeup and interview:https://recordcollectormag.com/articles/the-one-man-beatles
― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 September 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbndpazF_DU
― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 September 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
https://joeromersa.disco.ac/playlist-new/3888115?date=20200722&user_id=61581&signature=0Fv07nNrCKE58bD4f6pdviksEqo%3AaI7He6nO
― ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn28MvHuREk
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 October 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49w0SsrqKmg
― Erdős-szám 69 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 7 October 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link
Morbius's sister recently posted a high school photo of him on Friendbook and for a beat or two I really thought it was something from the Emitt Rhodes group. #OneThread
― Spiral "Scratch" Starecase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 30 October 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
My top artist of the year, 0.005%ile.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
And The Merry-Go-Round came in number five.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 December 2020 02:45 (three years ago) link
you love to see it
― budo jeru, Friday, 4 December 2020 03:16 (three years ago) link
I owe it all to you guys and this thread. Mulțumesc!
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 December 2020 03:26 (three years ago) link
it's been a journey for sure!
― budo jeru, Friday, 4 December 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link
Yeah, a real journey...to the nearest Red Lobster!
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 4 December 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link
lol
― budo jeru, Friday, 4 December 2020 04:16 (three years ago) link
Never gets old.
― Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 4 December 2020 14:43 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvSVMtuDf6w
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link
the photos from the magic mountain music festival are super cool
― budo jeru, Saturday, 9 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link
Wonder if anyone ever revealed who "You're a Very Lovely Woman" was supposed to be about.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 January 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
Finally watching that video I just posted. Not sure if there is anything new in it.
― Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 9 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link
I walked by a hand car wash on an industrial street of woodside queens this morning and heard With My Face On the Floor blasting. It was an odd location for that.
― dan selzer, Monday, 11 January 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
This cool, new-to-me track giving me heavy Emitt Rhodes vibes though I think Rhodes would've taken this up several notches lyrically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QziYUqeSVe0
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:17 (three years ago) link
HB, ER!
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 25 February 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link
So he got a Grammy RIP nod.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 13:27 (three years ago) link
And something kind of sweet on social media about him.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 March 2021 19:09 (three years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link
Ah, didn’t know. That’s great.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link
#WhenWorldsCollide
I also think any Eagle who says they weren't blowing rails and listening to this song from five years earlier on repeat when they wrote "Hotel California" is lying.https://t.co/F7RAWxN0lB— Tyler Mahan Coe (@TylerMahanCoe) May 7, 2021
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 8 May 2021 03:12 (two years ago) link
!
― Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 May 2021 01:53 (two years ago) link
But came to post this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7kR8IcJGR8
― Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 May 2021 01:54 (two years ago) link
I came to watch the Merry Go Round (and Jerry Butler) but stayed for the Happy Jack dance party.
― dan selzer, Thursday, 20 May 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link
!!!
― fact checking cuz, Thursday, 20 May 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link
Ha, dan otm.Came to post that today is apparently a special day for Emitt.
― AP Chemirocha (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 May 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link
Just saw a Father's Day weekend photo of Emitt on F-Borad, very sweet.
― Rich Valley Girl, Poor Valley Girl (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 19 June 2021 19:50 (two years ago) link
New cover of "Promises I Made" by Black Keys guy mentioned here.Feels a little too slow to me upon first listen, but the story is nice.
“And of course the Emitt Rhodes song at the end [Promises I’ve Made]. I think that was the first song I recorded, and it was on the day that Emitt died. That was what set the fire for everything because I liked this new recording set-up and how it turned out, so I just kept going”.
― The Door into Summerisle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 January 2022 19:52 (two years ago) link
Sounds like he was trying to make sound like something off Abbey Road. #onethread
― The Door into Summerisle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 7 January 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link
Sixth anniversary of the release of Rainbow Ends today.
― Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 February 2022 15:15 (two years ago) link
I just won a vinyl American Dream (2nd edition) on eBay!
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 00:24 (two years ago) link
Wow!
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 00:36 (two years ago) link
Mrs. Redd is watching some new Star Trek thing and there is an Emitt-looking guy on the screen right now.
― Johnny Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 May 2022 01:12 (one year ago) link
No doubt headed to the Space Lobster.
That vinyl copy of American Dream I got is gorgeous...the prior owner(s) took really good care of it. Might be my favorite Emitt release.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 May 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link
Also noticed some Emitt included on the playlists last shared here: Obscure Singles Heard at CVS
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 May 2022 01:26 (one year ago) link
“Isn’t It So” is my jam.
― Don't Renege On (Our Dub) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 May 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link
Not sure what this adds but, one of his exes posted it so: https://www.splicetoday.com/music/the-rise-and-fall-of-singer-songwriter-emitt-rhodes-the-one-man-beatles
― Double Elvis on the Dime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 22:46 (one year ago) link
And then someone else close to him eplied about the relatively happy ending.
― Double Elvis on the Dime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 7 June 2022 22:47 (one year ago) link
Where is that? Do you have to register to see it?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link
What, the reply? They mentioned it on Friendbook.
― Ride into the Sunship (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link
Is “Isn’t It So” about his mother? Although it is obvious written to seem as if it is about an ex.
― Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 16 December 2022 20:30 (one year ago) link