Totally helpless and hopeless album, but the version with bonus tracks does at least contain "Give Ireland Back To The Irish"
ABBA: "The Visitors"
Already my favourite album by them. However, having "The Day Before You Came", "Under Attack" and a couple of excellent b-sides added at the end makes it even better.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― rajeev (rajeev), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― Silky Sensor (sexyDancer), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link
so, Geir seconded
― milton parker (Jon L), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link
parsons sings more! (more tortured = more country)
― Ozewayo (ozewayo), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:51 (nineteen years ago) link
The Ryko "Low" with the other Eno collab track is absolutely necessary.
― kyle (akmonday), Friday, 18 March 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Actually, something similar happened with one version of The Fall's Perverted By Language without detriment.
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:23 (nineteen years ago) link
Mercury Rev - Yerself Is Steam (columbia reissue) = "carwash hair"
Slowdive - Souvlaki (US) - "some velvet morning," good day sunshine," "missing you" "country rain" (actually, though these are great songs, they are arguably detrimental to the flow of the album as a whole, so YES for having more good material in one place/ NO for actually strengthening the album)
― Steve Gertz (sgertz), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Saturday, 19 March 2005 00:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Marcel Verhoeven (Marcel Verhoeven), Saturday, 19 March 2005 01:31 (nineteen years ago) link
I think some would say the inclusion of "Balloon" on the US version of Catherine Wheel's Ferment is a plus. Personally, I like having that slowed down version of "Love und Romance" and the excellent cover of "I Heard It Through the Grapevine" on Cut and for me it improves the album half of a star.
― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 19 March 2005 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link
― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 19 March 2005 02:49 (nineteen years ago) link
I really enjoyed hearing the 'Buff Manilla' ep I'd never heard of appended to 'Wilder' (which is my favourite Teardrop album already).
― I.M. (I.M.), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:36 (nineteen years ago) link
I actually really appreciate the bonus tracks on Stranglers' La Folie. Normally bonus tracks tend to irritate me a little. Comsat Angels bonus tracks are another excellent exception to this.
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mickey (modestmickey), Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:51 (nineteen years ago) link
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Saturday, 19 March 2005 09:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Galaxie 500 - On Fire has bonus tracks that will rock your socks. All three are covers: New Order, "Ceremony"... Red Krayola, "Victory Garden"... George Harrison, "Isn't It a Pity"... Brilliante. Brilliante.
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 19 March 2005 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― Deluxe (Damian), Saturday, 19 March 2005 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 19 March 2005 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 19 March 2005 11:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 19 March 2005 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 19 March 2005 12:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― jermaine (jnoble), Saturday, 19 March 2005 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link
One of their albums contained about 5 minutes of samples as a bonus track. And another contained specially made tunes for Beverley Hills 90210 and Neverending Story part 3- the quality of which are about 1000% better than the rest of the album........... Why is everyone looking at me like that????
(runs to avoid gunshots)
― JTS, Saturday, 19 March 2005 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link
TX's Wilder definitely seconded. That's what I was trying to think of in the first place. "East of the Equator" is the greatest song title ever.
― Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 19 March 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― mzui (mzui), Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― pop, Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― cozen (Cozen), Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, "Isn't It a Pity" was the lovely conclusion to the original LP. The third b-side bonus track is an original which I can never remember anything about. All of the covers are exemplary though, yessir! : )
< /pedantry >
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 19 March 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Vigorously seconded! They could even have reprised "John Riley" on the original with that jammy instrumental version. Better than "The Learjet Song" anyway.
Actually, pretty much ALL of those Byrds reissues add exceptional stuff.
― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― o. nate (onate), Sunday, 20 March 2005 00:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Let's keep the afterbirth and throw Ian Riese-Moraine away! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 20 March 2005 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link
― Let's keep the afterbirth and throw Ian Riese-Moraine away! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 20 March 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 20 March 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 20 March 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link
Me too! Geir thirded. Normally I have bonus tracks - I wish they'd put them on an extra disk, like the Fleetwood Mac reissues
― Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 21 March 2005 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Monday, 21 March 2005 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― jichael mackson, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link
Admittedly I often find dub versions to be superior to the originals.
― Ian Riese-Moraine. Sweeter than a lorry load of white Toblerones. (Eastern Mantr, Tuesday, 22 March 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Keith C (lync0), Thursday, 1 June 2006 23:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Emily B (Emily B), Friday, 2 June 2006 00:02 (seventeen years ago) link
According to AMG, the Japanese import CD has "bonus tracks" as well, but I don't know what they are...
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 2 June 2006 02:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― tremendoid (tremendoid), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― timmy tannin (pompous), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Friday, 2 June 2006 03:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― nicky lo-fi (nicky lo-fi), Friday, 2 June 2006 04:23 (seventeen years ago) link
Even the first version of the CD added "When I Needed You" which is one of their best ever B-sides.
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:16 (seventeen years ago) link
Wire's "ManScape" has more tracks on than the LP version. Including the 'title track' "Life in the Manscape" which is the lead/single...
Hmm, what else.
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 2 June 2006 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Max Blazevic (kitaj), Friday, 2 June 2006 10:07 (seventeen years ago) link
― James, Friday, 2 June 2006 13:20 (seventeen years ago) link
Generally, there's loads of cool bonus tracks on jazz rereleases, but usually they're just alternate takes that it's hard to get all that excited about, so they don't really feel like they improve the "album" as such.
― Øystein (Øystein), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:38 (seventeen years ago) link
the title track on mya's moodring'i can be that woman' AND 'hands on me' on christina milian's it's about time'man up' on amerie's touch
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Friday, 2 June 2006 13:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Oh No, It's Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link
originally a split lp on savoy, the 2001 atlantic cd reissue includes tons of unreleased dixon work. many, many brilliantly terrifying/terrifyingly brilliant solos.
― Lawrence the Looter (Lawrence the Looter), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:40 (seventeen years ago) link
― Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― Øystein (Øystein), Friday, 2 June 2006 14:55 (seventeen years ago) link
Soft Cell- Non-stop erotic cabaret- I have an issue with 10! incredible bonus early singles & b-sides not on the album- it doesn't have all their great songs, but the 20 tracks make it a better collection than any other "best ofs".
― -rainbow bum- (-rainbow bum-), Friday, 2 June 2006 15:30 (seventeen years ago) link
And the expanded 2CD The Name Of This Band Is the Talking Heads is a revelation.
― kornrulez6969 (TCBeing), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link
― hank (hank s), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― musically (musically), Friday, 2 June 2006 17:58 (seventeen years ago) link
The vinyl version of American Music Club's SAN FRANCISCO tragically slashes the two best songs that're found on the complete (CD) version.
― doug watson (solid air), Friday, 2 June 2006 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 2 June 2006 22:20 (seventeen years ago) link
― shorty (shorty), Friday, 2 June 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― shorty (shorty), Friday, 2 June 2006 23:01 (seventeen years ago) link
If this were fifteen years ago, I might have voted for the Cure's addition of Carnage Visors to the Faith CD, but now I'm too old to care. :-)
― Myke. (Myke Weiskopf), Saturday, 3 June 2006 11:06 (seventeen years ago) link
the new pornographers - challengers
― Zeno, Thursday, 27 September 2007 13:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Fragile and Close to the Edge are improved by versions of "America", I think Yes does a great job with those songs (I've never heard the original)
I like the bonus tracks on BOC's Secret Treaties as well. "Boorman the Chauffeur" should have made the original cut.
― Bill Magill, Thursday, 27 September 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link
The Yes version of "America" is great although the original is great too and you should definitely hear it (and the entire "Bookends" for that matter).
To the original thread: "Ringo" obviously doesn't suffer from having "It Don't Come Easy" added at the end.
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link
Albums that would have been better had the following same-era tracks been added
― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 27 September 2007 14:03 (sixteen years ago) link
destroyer - kaputt, for "the laziest river" - the european tracklist with it second last is the best sequencekylie minogue - fever, for "tightrope"
― ufo, Saturday, 15 January 2022 13:19 (two years ago) link
rihanna anti
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Saturday, 15 January 2022 13:22 (two years ago) link
Geir OTM on "The Visitors".
― Someone left a space telescope out in the rain (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 January 2022 13:49 (two years ago) link
the pet shop boys are the kings of the b sides and have a whole album of their early material called alternative but have had alot more since!
― xzanfar, Saturday, 15 January 2022 13:55 (two years ago) link
"Just Like Heaven" is a pretty much perfect added closer to 'You're Living All Over Me' by Dinosaur Jr.
I kinda think the b-side ballad "When A Blind Man Cries" really works at the end of Deep Purple's 'Machine Head' too.
― earlnash, Saturday, 15 January 2022 14:55 (two years ago) link
The bonus tracks on the 90s CD reissue of Richard Hell’s Blank Generation make it flow much better as an album. His junkie crooner version of “All the Way” is a perfect album closer
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Saturday, 15 January 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link
otm YLAOM and Anti.
I was gonna say The Life of Pablo but now I can't find any proof that Fade and No More Parties in LA were bonus tracks.
― billstevejim, Saturday, 15 January 2022 16:35 (two years ago) link
I pity the fool who owns only the "Standard Edition" of either this or this
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Saturday, 15 January 2022 18:31 (two years ago) link
dua lipa : both albums are massively improved via their deluxe/extra tracks editions.i listen to the 'club future nostalgia' version a lot more than the standard album.same re the expanded ellie goulding/halcyon days album.
― mark e, Saturday, 15 January 2022 18:38 (two years ago) link
I listen to Wendy & Bonnie's acoustic demos of songs that were left off 'Genesis' probably more than the actual album. The 2CD version with the demos of the album tracks is more than i need.
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link
I didn’t see Synchronicity mentioned upthread but that’s an obvious one for me. “Murder by Numbers” is comfortably better than 3-4 of the album tracks.
― assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 15 January 2022 21:50 (two years ago) link
The Who Sell Out definitely. Exhibit A in terms of bonus tracks turning a near-great album into a fully-realized masterpiece IMHO. The 1995 remix of the later reissues with the vintage mixes both show this.
The Replacements' Don't Tell a Soul kind of counts...I wish you could take the 2008 reissue and replace the album proper with the new Dead Man's Pop mix released in 2019, that would be a CD worthy of sitting next to Let It Be et al. The mix is a big improvement, but the extra stuff like "Portland," "We Know the Night," "Wake Up" and even "Date to Church" makes up for the weaker and less fun material that originally made the cut.
It's great having the UK versions of My Aim Is True and Armed Forces ending with the bonus singles "Watching the Detectives" and "What's So Funny..." "Radio Radio" is a great single too but adding it to the end of This Year's Model undermines the great and abrupt ending to "Night Rally."
The three bonuses Rykodisc originally picked for Young Americans were perfect, partly because two originally made the cut and the third was definitely in the running (and released as an actual single anyway). I generally prefer Bowie albums as they originally were, but this is one big exception where the addition of these three make the album more worthwhile.
While I'm at it, a couple of Target exclusives of recent years have been worth getting for the bonus track bait: Prince's Originals (the "cinematic" mix of "Nothing Compares 2 U" is my favorite version of that song outside of Sinéad O'Connor's own version) and the new Raise the Roof album by Plant & Krauss (both bonus tracks are keepers, especially the second Lucinda Williams cover).
― birdistheword, Saturday, 15 January 2022 22:01 (two years ago) link
all of the gil scott-heron rumal-gia late 90s/early 2000s cd versions added a lot to those albums. i consider those the best versions.
and i mean . . . pretty much every blue note cd reissue with extra material is worth it.
― get shrunk by this funk. (Austin), Sunday, 16 January 2022 00:34 (two years ago) link
The The - Infected CD with the 12" versions
Does Pixies - Surfer Rosa + Come on Pilgrim count?
― raven, Sunday, 16 January 2022 00:58 (two years ago) link
Carly Rae Jepsen - Emotion
Pulp - His 'N' Hers (the bonus tracks on the deluxe reissues are some of the best songs they ever did, especially B-sides such as Seconds and Her Sister's Clothes)
Jessie Ware - Her first three albums (Imagine It Was Us, Midnight Caller, Love To Love, Til' The End)
Haim - Women In Music III
Dexys Midnight Runners - Don't Stand Me Down: The Directors Cut (Kevin Rowland's 13th Time should have never been taken off the album)
Roxy Music - S/T (I couldn't imagine the album without Virginia Plain)
Beyonce - Four (mainly for Schoolin' Life)
Britney - Glory (If I'm Dancing should have been the lead single)
Suede - Deluxe Reissues (same as Pulp, those B-sides from the first three albums are career highs)
The Modern Lovers - S/T (especially for Dignified & Old)
― kitchen person, Sunday, 16 January 2022 02:36 (two years ago) link
'Architecture & Morality' is probably my favorite album of 1981--and yet, the b-sides "Romance of the Telescope," "Of All the Things We've Made" (and maybe "Sacred Heart") are maybe even better and make the album even better.
Not surprising they formed the emotional core of 'Dazzle Ships'.
― Soundslike, Sunday, 16 January 2022 03:36 (two years ago) link
Bad feels incomplete without "Leave Me Alone."
― billstevejim, Sunday, 16 January 2022 03:45 (two years ago) link
grew up on the Taang reissue of Spacemen 3's "The Perfect Prescription"
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 16 January 2022 04:45 (two years ago) link
Returning to the first post, I don't see how "Wings Wild Life" is improved by adding "Give Ireland Back to the Irish".
Ok, it's now an archival set with lots of fine extras.
But the original cd, if you like the album or don't, isn't improved by the addition of one track that doesn't fit in with the rest.
― Mark G, Sunday, 16 January 2022 09:29 (two years ago) link
The three bonuses Rykodisc originally picked for Young Americans were perfect
"Who Can I Be Now?" would have been the perfect closer to that album.
― Being cheap is expensive (snoball), Sunday, 16 January 2022 10:20 (two years ago) link
They’re not great albums but Drake’s hotline bling and Minaj’s superbass are the biggest hits of their respective albums and they’re bonus tracks
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 16 January 2022 19:03 (two years ago) link
Also surprised it hasn’t been mentioned so far but “This Charming Man” and “how soon is now?” are two of the most iconic Smiths songs and they were also bonus tracks
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 16 January 2022 19:04 (two years ago) link
The expanded CD of Skip Spence's Oar released by Sundazed in 199 is incredible. The recent 3xCD AndOarAgain might have been too inclusive - it's more an archive than an album - but the highlights are as good or even better than the album, farther 'out.'
― Freeze Instr., Sunday, 16 January 2022 19:19 (two years ago) link
*1999
― Freeze Instr., Sunday, 16 January 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link
― kitchen person,
I have the 80's Rhino LP with Dignified & Old at the end of side A.
i never realized it had 3 songs that weren't on the album originally. that's so weird. especially in the middle of the running order, i get that it's for fidelity reasons but...
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Monday, 17 January 2022 00:36 (two years ago) link
wow I had no idea those songs weren't part of the original, this is totally messing with my my head
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 January 2022 00:42 (two years ago) link
also, the rykodisc release of Big Star's "Third" - that one's a little iffy since the tracklisting for that has always fluctuated.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 17 January 2022 01:22 (two years ago) link
For me, the definitive version of Duran Duran's Rio is still the third edition american Capitol Records LP that subbed out the UK mix of side A with the superior Kershenbaum Night mixes. The night mix of "Hold Back The Rain" is spectacular - there's an entire thread about it.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 17 January 2022 08:50 (two years ago) link
Live At Leeds and No Sleep Till Hammersmith also improved by including most/all of the original gig.
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 17 January 2022 11:01 (two years ago) link
Will definitely third Anti. The standard album is still pretty great but Disturbia pushes it above and beyond
― vexingvexillologist, Monday, 17 January 2022 20:57 (two years ago) link
Thomas Dolby's Golden Age of Wireless feels pretty incomplete without the bonuses
― frogbs, Monday, 17 January 2022 21:00 (two years ago) link
also quebec by Ween which ends with "Ooh La Va" on the JP version, despite the big blowout "real" ending I think finishing with some weirdass & extremely catchy shit is actually much better
― frogbs, Monday, 17 January 2022 21:03 (two years ago) link
Yeah, definitely- forgot about that one! I wish Omnivore would reissue the master takes on a single CD, but they did put them out as a double LP and the last CD of their 3-CD deluxe set. That deluxe set's last disc (and the double LP for that matter) is basically everything on the Rykodisc release with better mastering and one additional track.
― birdistheword, Monday, 17 January 2022 21:37 (two years ago) link
I'm guessing that if you like the big star "third" album, chances are you probably own a number of 'imaginings' of the album.
Me? I'm fortunate in that I own that 3cd deluxe set, off an Amazon special offer.
― Mark G, Monday, 17 January 2022 23:35 (two years ago) link
I have a weird Record Store Day version of Third that I cannot find on the internet, discogs doesn't have it. it's on Omnivore and was from the same reissue projectbut it's different than the Third: Complete Masters, it is packaged like reel to reel tape, and iirc the deal was that this is supposed to be the version submitted for test pressing and was the intended running order, has fewer songs (only a single album)tracklist:side 1 -Stroke it NoelDownsFemme FatalThank You FriendsHolocaustJesus ChristBlue Moonside 2 -Kissa MeFor YouOh DanaNightime Whole Lotta Shakin'Kanga RooTake Care
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 17 January 2022 23:52 (two years ago) link
W.A.S.P.'s "Animal (Fuck Like a Beast)", since it was not allowed on the album by the label and really is a better start to the album than "I wanna Be Somebody"
― they were written with a ouija board and a rhyming dictionary (Neanderthal), Monday, 17 January 2022 23:57 (two years ago) link
xp
https://www.discogs.com/release/2831232-Big-Star-Third-Test-Pressing-Edition
assuming it's this one yr referring to? It's the edition I have also.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 00:17 (two years ago) link
I believe it was promoted by having some of them being the real original test pressings.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 00:28 (two years ago) link
I can't imagine a version of Sister Lovers made better by omitting "Big Black Car". I have the 80s PVC edition on vinyl.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 00:35 (two years ago) link
I was surprised to learn that the first four tracks on my CD of the Fall’s Perverted by Language were singles that were not part of the original LP (and it ended with one more). The expanded tracklist is definitely an improvement on an already great album
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 01:04 (two years ago) link
Re: Live at Leeds et al, with few exceptions, I usually prefer live albums with bonus tracks, anything that brings them closer to a full show rather than a 40 minute excerpt.
In terms of other studio albums, the bonus tracks on the Byrds albums are very helpful. Except for their debut, their second, third and fourth albums can feel uneven to me, a problem that is easily rectified with their accompanying bonus tracks. They had the material to release six rock-solid masterpieces in a row, though I guess as-is those first six are all still great albums, just flawed in some cases.
I really love hearing the UK sequence of Are You Experienced? with the singles as bonus tracks. I'm glad that album's always had them since the '90s (though the U.S. sequence was favored for American CD's once the Hendrix family got back the rights).
The Kinks deluxe editions are mostly great, I wish the Beatles and the Stones followed the same model for packaging together the mono and stereo mixes with appropriate bonuses like the singles.
Al Green's Greatest Hits definitely benefits from having more hits.
One practice I miss is how a lot of indie and punk CD reissues added an EP or singles that immediately followed or preceded the album in question. Gang of Four, the Mekons, Wire's debut, etc...it was a nice handy way of keeping those EP's available. Sensible aesthetically and economical as well.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 02:58 (two years ago) link
One exception: XTC. Inserting bonus tracks in the middle of an LP's original sequence just blows.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 02:59 (two years ago) link
xxp do you think those added singles would've been better at the end, or do you like having them open the CD, right before the album? I usually prefer the end, but there are rare cases where I enjoy hearing the singles first. (The 1993 reissue of Hendrix's Are You Experienced? comes to mind.)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 03:01 (two years ago) link
I do like having them open the CD… but that’s also how I first experienced it, so there may be some bias there (I guess the logic is – they were released before the album, so that’s how a fan would’ve encountered the songs).
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 03:04 (two years ago) link
As a random postscript… I just fired up the first Dinosaur Jr. album on streaming, and it starts with “Bulbs of Passion”! I only know it as a final / bonus track.Wikipedia sez:
"Bulbs of Passion" was not featured on the original vinyl LP; it was a b-side to the "Repulsion" single. Subsequent reissues on cassette and compact disc featured it as the last song. The 2005 reissue on Merge Records placed "Bulbs of Passion" as the first track at J Mascis' request. "Yeah, I asked for that," J recalls, "because [that song] gave our new direction - it felt like we were our own sound."
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 04:10 (two years ago) link
The Raincoats themselves admitted that it was a mistake to leave "Fairytale In The Supermarket" off of their first album, so all the current editions of the album lead off with it.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 06:55 (two years ago) link
Second for the guy who mentioned "Mutations" by Beck 15 years ago on this thread.
My CD finished with "Runners Dialled Zero" and "Diamond Bollocks", although the album apparently finishes with "Static".
Great album.
― in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 09:34 (two years ago) link
One of the CD editions of Elvis's first album opened with "Heartbreak Hotel", his first RCA single, instead of "Blue Suede Shoes".
The problem with the Raincoats is that some of their other CDs removed tracks from the original LPs, which I don't believe they have ever explained. In fact, this would be a more challenging thread: records that were improved when tracks were officially removed (see also Bowie's "Too Dizzy").
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 13:44 (two years ago) link
I can think of many albums that would be improved by the deletion of one or two tracks, but at the moment, I can think of only one (Ice Cube's Death Certificate) that was actually issued in such a manner.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link
come to think of it, the real gold standard is "Rumors" with the "Silver Springs" addition
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 16:03 (two years ago) link
A few more with singles added as track 1 in most/all subsequent editions:Birthday Party, Junk Yard (adding b-side Blast Off as track 1, and the a-side Release the Bats after the lp tracks)Split Enz, Frenzy (adding I See Red, stand alone single from followup sessions)Thomas Dolby's Golden Age of Wireless had Blinded me with Science as track 1 for most of its run on vinyl and cd, but this was reverted in 2009 with a deluxe set restoring the original order.
I'm sure there are many others especially in the 60s/70s when standalone singles were routine but this is a hard topic to google. If someone has tried to make a list of these I can't find it.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 16:11 (two years ago) link
I actually prefer Rumours without "Silver Springs." (I have that track on a separate CD-R. IIRC every A-side + "Silver Springs" from the 1975-1987 Buckingham-Nicks era fills up exactly one CD.) Rumours has a perfect but delicate balance of pop and rock elements where they either pair up or fuse the glossier pop elements to edgier, more daring ideas. I tried the reissue with "Silver Springs" and it felt like it tipped the balance a little too much into schmaltz. Somehow it plays better for me with the hits, maybe because expectations are different like when you're listening to top 40 (or classic rock) radio and you kind of expect the occasional schmaltz.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 16:40 (two years ago) link
lots of (some) talk about the second galaxie 500 lp upthread, but no mention of the first, the cd of which gains
King Of SpainCrazy
the first of which is one of my absolute faves.
also
the cassette (and later the cd) of Kilimanjaro had Reward, added as penultimate track on side 1 (which means that 6 of the 12 tracks were also singles, based on a quick glance at discogs)
― koogs, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 16:56 (two years ago) link
It hasn’t been mentioned - which surprises me, or I completely didn’t understand the rules of the thread - but Magical Mystery Tour is massively improved when turned into an LP with the Side 2 bonus tracks (although they did add “all you need is love” which is the worst song there). You get possibly their most iconic songs of the era with Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane, and “Baby you’re a rich man” which is possibly my favorite song in there and a top 10 Beatles song.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 16:57 (two years ago) link
The bonus tracks make a better EP than the original (double) EP itself! It makes the CD an essential buy though it still feels very lopsided. On iTunes, I separated out Magical Mystery Tour and put all the singles in with Past Masters (except for "I Am the Walrus" which I just duplicated and included in both). MMT is just a strange oddity that plays better on its own, IMHO, and Past Masters feels like it has a gaping hole without the psychedelic singles from 1967.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link
Two came to mind:
When The Wedding Present's Seamonsters was released in the US, they tacked on Niagara, Dan Dare, and Fleshworld from the contemporaneous singles' b-sides. I see how Octopussy would end out the album on a slower closing note, but I think it really benefits from this last burst of energy from those three.
The Cure's Concert and Curiosity cassette. Not sure if this counts, but I wouldn't have been as obsessed with it if it was just the Concert side.
― city worker, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 17:13 (two years ago) link
I had the longer cassette of Songs From The Big Chair so it always had The Big Chair, Empire Building, The Marauders, Broken Revisited, The Conflict and The Working Hour (Piano Version) on the other side. They're definitely worthwhile but in the spirit of the thread it's arguable if all that extra stuff necessarily make the album better as an album.
― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link
hermeto pascoal's "slaves mass" on the warners 2000s reissue adds 35 mins of noodling brazilian funk jamz
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:21 (two years ago) link
I always loved that the CD version of Feel The Fire by Overkill included their version of the Dead Boys' "Sonic Reducer."
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:29 (two years ago) link
― birdistheword
otm
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:31 (two years ago) link
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, January 17, 2022 6:17 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
cool thanks! was having trouble finding it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link
London Calling
― jimbeaux, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:32 (two years ago) link
does that one count? I thought Train in Vain was on all versions of the album, just unlisted
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:36 (two years ago) link
Yeah London Calling is what I'd call a hidden track (always on the original pressing) not a bonus track (added later to sweeten a reissue or just seamlessly improve the album).
Side topic, but I gotta say, Magical Mystery Tour not being available streaming/cd/vinyl reissue in its correct track list order is pretty unfortunate if you believe in the intentions of the artist over the producer. If the Beatles were displeased with the US LP, at some point someone should have done something to reissue it properly. The way to go would be to combine the 6 tracks in the original EP order (Magical / Mother / Walrus / Fool / Flying / Blue Jay) with the 1967-68 projected EP of Yellow Submarine tracks (Northern Song / Bulldog / Across the Universe '68 / All Together Now / It's All Too Much) that is superior to allowing George Martin's annoying orchestrations take up half of a Beatles lp. Tough question whether to include Across the Universe on such a reissue, to retain the original idea of that EP, or omit it as that would be somewhat redundant with the version on Let It Be... but then if i'm giving myself free reign here i'd leave Across the Universe on this "Magical Submarine" quadruple EP album, and make the Glyn Johns Get Back the canonical lp and call the McCartney/Spector Let It Be an alternate version.
Then you can rejigger Past Masters to make them flow better: Vol 1 could omit the german tracks (they belong on Anthology/Rarities vol whatever) and add Ain't She Sweet / Cry For A Shadow which should have been on there as they were nonlp songs that were previously released, and Vol 2 could gain the 5 1967 songs from side 2 of the MMT LP, and lose the alternate versions of LP tracks Universe, Let It Be, Revolution, Get Back, and Don't Let Me Down. And then balance the compilations by also moving Day Tripper / We Can Work It Out to disc 1, maybe reversing the order of those two to follow their actual labeling on the 7".
Whew ok, back to discussion of bonus tracks intruding on canonical LPs. I love how Tony The Pony totally upends the piteous wallowing of the last few Kill Uncle songs with a still mournful, yet far more sardonic and upbeat feeling. Typically, Morrissey's reissue ruined this. Also, in another example of Who Sell Out's "Bonus tracks from the session flow really well as a 3rd lp side", XTC's Mummer really benefits from the 6 bonus tracks, even the instrumentals, which seem to capture a sort of schizophrenic nature vs. technology feeling that swirls underneath most of the album thematically and musically.
― mig (guess that dreams always end), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:39 (two years ago) link
Yeah, it was a hidden track. I was never quite sure why they hid it, other than it does not really fit with the overall spirit and feel of the album (except maybe Lost in the Supermarket).
I can think of at least one album that was worsened by a bonus track: Crowded House's debut. Can't Carry On does not fit with, and is nowhere as good as, the rest of the album.
Also, changing the order of the tracks was a travesty.
Finally, get off my lawn.
― jimbeaux, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:42 (two years ago) link
Rhythm of the Saints
most of the Elvis Costello Rykodisc versions had completely awesome shit on the bonus disc. b-sides, demos, live stuff, unreleased alternate versions
― umami dearest (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:45 (two years ago) link
Side topic, but I gotta say, Magical Mystery Tour not being available streaming/cd/vinyl reissue in its correct track list order is pretty unfortunate if you believe in the intentions of the artist over the producer....
The Beatles/Apple released this in the '90s: https://www.discogs.com/release/1852292-The-Beatles-Compact-Disc-EP-Collection
Supposedly mastered from the original EP master tapes, which in most cases were essentially production copies where they dubbed the individual tracks from the first-generation LP or 45 masters. However the EP only releases like Long Tall Sally and both the stereo AND mono versions of the MMT double EP are first-generation. Kind of an expensive way to get the original MMT on CD, but at least they did it!
Re: Let It Be/Get Back, there's waaaay too many versions of that music, ugh. I just need one, but I had to edit it together from various releases. The stuff I bypassed altogether were the super deluxe set from last year, the bootlegs (Anthology covered me with what I needed) and almost all of Let It Be...Naked (I only needed Preston's solo from "The Long and Winding Road," the only place to get it without McCartney vocalizing over it).
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 20:58 (two years ago) link
xps "Train in Vain" was added to the album at the last minute, after the artwork had been printed.
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:03 (two years ago) link
not that anyone needs this opinion but the deluxe edition of blink-182's neighborhoods feels like a much more complete album than the standard
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:04 (two years ago) link
xp I did not know that, and I have been listening to that album since it came out. Our ignorance pre-Internet is almost shocking in hindsight.
― jimbeaux, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:05 (two years ago) link
Forgot two - Dylan's Shot of Love which added a much-needed "The Groom's Still Waiting at the Altar" and the US version of Band on the Run which added "Helen Wheels" (though I wished they dropped "No Words" in the process).
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:06 (two years ago) link
Preston's solo from TLAWR? gonna have to look that up...
― Mark G, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:08 (two years ago) link
Yeah, it's the same take seen in the original Let It Be film (and in the Anthology TV documentary). On the earlier take used by Johns and Spector, Preston has no solo - instead, we hear Paul recite the chorus like a lounge singer. (The whole take is best heard on Anthology 3, without Johns's buckets of echo and without Spector's overdubs.) I think Johns and Spector used a better take based on Paul's vocal alone, but I don't like that one part and prefer Preston's electric piano solo in its place.
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link
*(The earlier take in its entirety is best heard on Anthology 3, without Johns's buckets of echo and without Spector's overdubs.)
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link
The changing track listing on Third has always mystified me, seeing as I was introduced to it via the Ryko order and can't imagine a better opening run than the one it proposed:
"Kizza Me" – 2:44"Thank You Friends" – 3:05"Big Black Car" – 3:35"Jesus Christ" – 2:37"Femme Fatale" – 3:28 (Lou Reed)"O, Dana" – 2:34
The only sequencing change I'd argue for on it would be to separate "Holocaust" and "Kanga Roo" but that might also be my own overexposure to those two songs in other contexts
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link
"Stroke It, Noel" is such a moment of earnest respite in such an otherwise manic and bleak record, I can't imagine having it as the opening track
― flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
Yeah the other tracklistings for that album make no sense to me.
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:36 (two years ago) link
I can't imagine ending with anything other than "Thank You Friends". "Stroke It Noel" and "For You" are gentle songs to ease you into the record.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:44 (two years ago) link
I love most of Bowie's Rykodisc releases. My two favourite Bowie albums are Diamond Dogs and Low. The Ryko extras include the Candidate demo (completely different song than Candidate on the album) and Dodo for Diamond Dogs - great songs both; Some Are and All Saints for Low - especially Some Are is an absolute masterpiece.'Tonight' didn't get a Ryko reissue but Virgin added three bonus tracks: This Is Not America, As The World Falls Down, Absolute Beginners. Excellent stuff which I think also really improves the album.
However, I never liked the Ryko bonuses for Station To Station: it's live versions of two of the six album tracks, which I think is unnecessary repetition. If I want to hear those songs, I just listen to the entire album again instead of a repeat of selected content in somewhat different rendition. For this reason, I really dislike it in general when bonus tracks are live versions or remixes of tracks which are already on the album.I also entirely disagree with the 16y old comment upthread about David Sylvian's Gone To Earth (one of my, if not my absolute, all-time favourite albums): I think those remixes on CD1 are completely unnecessary and only disrupt the album flow!
There are a lot of Jethro Tull albums with excellent bonus material. One major exception is a 14 minute interview excerpt on Aqualung. I put on the album because I want to listen to music, not interrupted by some old interview, which is also not something to warrant repeated listenings.But as for other original Jethro Tull CD issues with bonus tracks - yes! Among many others, 'Christmas Song' on This Was; 'Living In The Past' on Stand Up; 'Broadford Bazaar' on Heavy Horses; 8 great tracks on Broadsword and the Beast; 'Part of the Machine' on Crest of a Knave.
― Valentijn, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 21:48 (two years ago) link
someone mentioned expanded live albums above - I think the expanded/remixed version of Bowie's Stage is heaps better than the old 2LP (and IMO crucial document of one of the all-time great tours and one of the greatest bands ever assembled)
also not quite 'bonus tracks' but I've long held that the cassette release of Standing On A Beach with b-sides on the flip is the definitive version - conversely the 'bonus tracks' on the CD (Other Voices, Play For Today, A Night Like This) make it a weaker compilation
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Tuesday, 18 January 2022 22:07 (two years ago) link
DEV-O Live (from the Freedom of Choice tour) is a pretty bizarre example. it was released as a 6-song EP (probably under contractual obligation), then later made it to CD in a vastly expanded version by Ryko, with 16 bonus tracks from a different date fleshing out more or less a full concert. except...all the original stuff is still there. all six of the original tracks are duplicated, and not really much different. idk why they didn't just do a full set, who cares if the "original" performances aren't there?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 18 January 2022 22:13 (two years ago) link
Yeah Valentijn the Bowie Ryko bonuses are legendary (at least in my own mind). The demo version of "Candidate" makes my list of top 20 Bowie songs, sometimes. I remember feeling like "what" when Aladdin Sane came with no bonuses. "Holy Holy" is awful, the alt version of "John," is amazing, the live StS tracks are inessential, the "Crystal Japan" bonus on Scary Monsters had me giving Trent Reznor a side-long glance about not giving Bowie any credit for "A Warm Place". I don't even really think about Low without it ending with "Some Are" and "All Saints", etc. etc.
― flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link
"Lightning Frightening" from The Man Who Sold the World is my go-to example for totally inconsequential reissue bonus tracks, but I wouldn't really want it never to have been issued.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 03:46 (two years ago) link
― in twelve parts (lamonti)
would argue these don't count as bonus tracks, they were included on most or all of the initial editions of the album. where are these 'stanard' copies of Mutations that finish with Static anyhow?
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 04:03 (two years ago) link
the recent longer/restored Secret Messages by ELO is an improvement over the original release.
― akm, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 04:05 (two years ago) link
The LP of Cowboy Junkies The Trinity Session didn’t include the what-now-seem-essential songs “Blue Moon Revisited (Song for Elvis)” and “Working On A Building.”
Two “perfect” albums with even-better songs released in expanded editions are Emmylou Harris’s Wrecking Ball and The Waterboys’ Fisherman’s Blues.
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 05:43 (two years ago) link
Brigitte Fontaine & Art Ensemble of Chicago - "Comme à la radio"
adds "Le goudron" which is one of her most popular songs.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 5 February 2022 03:18 (two years ago) link
With good results, Love and Rockets added a bonus instrumental track to the *beginning* of both "Seventh Dream..." and "Express". For the former, "God and Mr. Smith" (based on "If There's a Heaven Above" which is moved from the beginning of Side A to the end of Side A, bookending the side with the same theme); and for the latter, the slowly building "Angels and Devils". The upbeat "Inside the Outside" was another bonus track on "Seventh Dream..." (a good addition to break up the other tracks' slow/medium tempos); certain additions also had "Ball of Confusion" (also a bonus track on "Express"). (Another "Express" bonus track was "Holiday on the Moon" - not my favorite L&R track, heh).
― ernestp, Saturday, 5 February 2022 17:08 (two years ago) link