Let us praise (or not, if you're mean) Duran Duran's "Hold Back the Rain"

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Never a single. Remixed as a B-side on "Save a Prayer" in some corners, though. Concluded the first side on Rio. Absolutely fucking monstrous in a short version, in the extended 12" remix possibly the greatest song of its time -- if there's a key song that captures what people were sorta talking about in those two line descriptions in early eighties record club catalogs as 'dance rock,' it's this. Andy Taylor, indeed, rocks out like a motherfucker, John Taylor and Roger Taylor find some sort of unholy and note-perfect union that is part early eighties Simple Minds in overdrive, part Chic/Roxy/Cars clinical 'we WILL make you dance' rhythm, Nick Rhodes adds both sugar and scope with the keyboards and Simon LeBon makes the chorus sound like a fucking epic, which of course it is.

He also gets in one of the greatest and most befuddling lyrics ever to my 12-year-old self, when I first heard it back in 1983, and it still works in terms of sheer 'the hell?':

"So what if the words ain't rhyming?
Did you think it's just a game?
I probably didn't even say that right
And I really don't give a DAMN."

But you might disagree.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I fully agree (and would add "New Religion" as another one that blew my seven year old mind). At the beginning, when under his breath Simon goes, "Hungry like the wolf" (at least I think he does), was possibly my first exposure to self-referential art. I am still pissed the mix of this CD is different than the LP--particularly "My Own Way." Sorry, way off topic there.

otto, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 18:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Ned, you have just made my day with this post. But I suppose that's no maximum big surprise there, hm? ;) You've also inspired me to actually listen to that song, which I will be doing at this very moment.

At the beginning, when under his breath Simon goes, "Hungry like the wolf" (at least I think he does), was possibly my first exposure to self-referential art.

If you're talking about "Hold Back The Rain", which I think you are, um... he's actually saying, "Holding back the rain". So sorry hon. Hate to be the bubble burster and all.

I am still pissed the mix of this CD is different than the LP--particularly "My Own Way."

I know just what you're saying. Maybe you should try to make a homemade version of Rio, with the David Kershenbaum remixes comprising the first half of the CD... ? I dunno. Little suggestion. FYI, I do adore the disco-fied "Night Version" of "My Own Way" as well as the popular US Rio vinyl version, which is the one you're talking about.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 22:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I get it confused with "New Religion" on occaision, but complete classic....notably for emphatic chorus hollering.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 22:58 (seventeen years ago) link

EVERYBODY, SING ALONG!

We’re miles away from nowhere
And the wind doesn’t have a name
So call it what you want to call it
Still blows down the lane

People tell me, I haven’t changed at all
But I don’t feel the same
And I bet you’ve had that feeling too
You just can’t laugh all the time

And if the fires burn out there’s only fire to blame
(hold back the rain)
No time for worry cause we’re on the roam again.
(hold back the rain)
The clouds all scatter and we ride the outside lane
(hold back the rain)
Not on your own so help me please.. hold back the rain

-

So what if the words ain’t rhyming
Did you think that it’s just a game
I probably didn’t even say that right
And I really don’t give a damn

Okay go off and wander
I’m guilty just the same
Sometimes you’re needed badly
So please come back again

(chorus)

-

And if the stars burn out, theirs only fire to blame
(hold back the rain)
No time for worry cause we’re on the roam again.
(hold back the rain)
The clouds all scatter and we ride the outside lane
(hold back the rain)
Not on your own so help me please.. hold back the rain

*does slightly awkward New Wave dance moves*

Hey Alex, great call with the "New Religion" mention! I need to listen to that next. I love to sing along with that one, esp. the spoken word parts. "Take another chance boy, carry the fight, you can take him if you're fast/Didn't I say if you were holding on you'd be laughing at the last/I get along fine with them friends of mine but you have to make the choice/I'm singing out of tune but the beat's in time and it's us who make the noise!" *sighs happily* And yes, I did type all that out from memory.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 04:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Holding Back, New Religion, My Own Way = awesome!!! the line about the stars burning out was always my fave.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 05:12 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm holding Rio in my lap right now depressed that I didn't mention this as my favorite DD track in the last DD post. Tenacious Dee..thanks for the tear in my beer. I get dementia listening or reading that lyric. Why did you post this Ned? Why? Haven't we felt enough in our lives?

cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 06:35 (seventeen years ago) link

your drunk!

cs appleby (cs appleby), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay drunk!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 06:54 (seventeen years ago) link

And if the stars burn out, there's only fire to blame

but they shine so cold!

an excellent song (and album) for adventuring in the suburbs when you're ten. so vaguely dramatic, so energizing for the imagination. my favorite was always "lonely in your nightmare" though:

must be lucky weather when you find
the kind of wind that you need

i don't like the original single version of my own way, it's too fast. i don't like the version on the remastered CD, either. it has to have the synthesized handclaps or it's pointless.

-fh

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 07:47 (seventeen years ago) link

HOT DAMN I'm so glad there are others out there who dig this song so much. I had the tape when I was 12, and I don't know if it was a Canadian-only thing, but the cassette featured all the LONG versions of the songs (including the extended Hold Back the Rain with that great synth intro). When I got the Rio CD as an 'adult' I was so pissed to hear all these "short" versions. I felt violated. It sounded nothing like the Rio I had come to love (and pretty much memorize). I would hope that EMI have since released a 'special' edition of Rio with the long versions included as extras or something...

Definitely a high point in their career, as are the other songs mentioned upthread. I also have a serious addiction to "Lonely In Your Nightmare" - a very underrated and incredibly well-written song.

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Note: Listening to Hold Back The Rain while driving is dangerous. It makes you want to drive VERY fast. My friend Nik (who had a lead foot at the best of times) used to seriously endager the lives of us and others when this song was blaring on the tape deck in his Mustang...

Rob Bolton (Rob Bolton), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Damn the naysayers, Rio is a fuckin' masterpiece from start to finish.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 15:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Yup. That song, like all of Rio, is just plain incredible. Gorgeous music. A muther that deserves not canonization, but beatification.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:10 (seventeen years ago) link

You know, I actually think it invigorating that a perfect pop record like Rio will more than likely never be accepted into the 'proper canon', whatever the fock that means. Bureaucracy can be a bitch, but in this case it's helped the album age better. It bestows the record with a sense of validity. Also, the fact Duran X2 will never top it, makes it even more exceptional...the more the irony and reality of it all sinks in, the more I believe this is the best album EVER MADE, in retrospect. It's not, but it comes close.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:22 (seventeen years ago) link

Sorry I just creamed my pants. I just REALLY miss my copy of Rio, to which I haven't had access to since May. 3000 miles, the Atlantic O., and a locked storage room separate us old lovers. So faraway, yet so close...

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:25 (seventeen years ago) link

That's our sad story.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I haven't listened to the album in years, because I don't remember liking much apart from the singles last I heard it. Maybe I'll fish it out and report back.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Isn't that David Kershenbaum mix of "Hold Back the Rain" the same as the one on Carnival (except without all the awkward edits)? I think it is.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 20:18 (seventeen years ago) link

*nods* The version of "Hold Back The Rain" on Carnival is the unedited, long (seven minute) version of the David Kershenbaum mix, absolutely. The one that's found on the third version of Rio to be released onto vinyl, and the second one to hit North America, i.e. the one that the band became popular with, is an edited (five minute) version. The same unedited (seven minute) version of the David Kershenbaum remix is found on the Essential Duran Duran (Night Versions) CD that was released back in 1998. I know you asked that question earlier -- I just didn't get a chance to answer it until now.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 22:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmmm. Is the entire Carnival EP on that Essential Duran Duran Night Versions CD? 'Cause I gotta get it if it is. Carnival's fucking great (best thing they've ever done, says I!), and my copy is scratched all to Hell.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 22:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I must get this Carnival EP you peoples speak so highly of. *snort*

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Thursday, 4 December 2003 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Is the entire Carnival EP on that Essential Duran Duran Night Versions CD?

Well, if you're talking about the US version of the Carnival EP, which I believe you are, then everything is the same except for the version of "My Own Way". The version of "My Own Way" found on the Essential Night Versions CD is what's known as the Night Version, which is disco-ey and not at all like the Carnival Version of "My Own Way". FYI, the Carnival Version is my absolute all-time favorite version of this song and I curse EMI for never having released it on CD format. Grrr.

I must get this Carnival EP you peoples speak so highly of. *snort*

Oh, hon, you most certainly should! Well, either that or get the vinyl version of Rio that you will most likely find in secondhand music stores. Its matrix # will be ST-1-12211-Z18 and will likely be a regular Capitol release, although it could also be found as a Harvest/Capitol release. In fact, this thread is inspiring me to play my vinyl copy of Rio, because my favorite version of "Hold Back The Rain" is also on it. I feel that once you get that and listen to it, you will never be able to listen to the regular CD version of the album ever again, because IMHO these Kershenbaum-influenced versions are the best ones out there.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh duh. Totally forgot that there are TWO disco-ey versions of "My Own Way" -- one of them is the regular version as is found on the Essential Night Versions CD (and also, come to mention it, on the Strange Behaviour 2-CD release, which was also a remixes compilation *), and the other is a version I've been able to find off the Internet, which will say it's the Night Version but is rather a 3 minute and 39 second Single Version of the song. I actually prefer the Single Version of the song, because the intro isn't as clumsy-sounding to me (in fact, in the single version, the intro is a kick-ass mixture of violins and drums), and because it also sounds a bit more sped up to me.

*laughs* I hope I'm not confusing you.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:40 (seventeen years ago) link

ned, i like how you borrowed my "(or not, if you're mean)" from my sad pet stories thread title

either that or great minds think alike?

JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:50 (seventeen years ago) link

*: The differences between the two remix compilations:

Essential Night Versions: Released only in the U.S. back in 1998. One regular CD and one so-called "enhanced" CD that works only on the computer and contains the "extended version" of "New Moon On Monday" combined with this very low-tech scroll showcase of all the covers of the early Duran singles, with a picture of the band ca. 1981 serving as the background. It was very exciting back in 1998, but I have a feeling I'd laugh at it today.

Strange Behaviour: Released in the UK, Japan, and Canada. Two regular CDs -- the first one contains remixes of the earlier songs, in the same time frame covered by Essential Night Versions, and the second one contains remixes of latter-era songs, up to and including The Wedding Album-era remixes. The versions of "Planet Earth", "Hungry Like The Wolf", and "Hold Back The Rain" found on this remix compilation are different from the versions found on Essential Night Versions, and it's important to note that the version of "Hold Back The Rain" that North American fans grew to love and adore can be found on Essential Night Versions, not Strange Behaviour.

Oh yes, and just in case you're interested, yes, you can purchase both these releases no matter where you are, thanks to the magical wonderment of the Internet! I believe Amazon carries both, in fact.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

(the above is a crosspost, obv)

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

either that or great minds think alike?

Yay alike!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 4 December 2003 04:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm actually surprised none of you have tried to calm me down or have said anything particularly snarky in re: my fangirl geekiness. I feel as though I need some kind of permanent area in this particular corner of the Internet so I can share my Vast Duran Knowledge and the rest of you can go on and be Cooler Than Me Music Fanatics without my contamination-filled geekiness. ;)

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 05:05 (seventeen years ago) link

WE LOVE YA DEE. ILM, bringing music geeks together like everah day.

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Thursday, 4 December 2003 05:25 (seventeen years ago) link

The faster version of My Own Way with violins is from the single, released before Rio the album. The 12" had a Night Version, and there was a third version on the b-side of the Rio (song) 12" which was used on the Rio (album) cassette I had as a kid. The remastered Rio CD you can buy now has a fourth version unlike any of the first three, but closest to the third. I assume this is the original UK album version. I wonder if one of these four is the Carnival version or if that's a fifth one.

Funny what you remember when you think about it.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 December 2003 06:12 (seventeen years ago) link

WE LOVE YA DEE.

Wow, after only about eight months? You move fast, darlings. ;)

ILM, bringing music geeks together like everah day.

Heh. Difference is, I can only manage to geek out over one musical artist. You guys can talk at length about lengthy lists of artists.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 13:37 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder if one of these four ["My Own Way" versions] is the Carnival version or if that's a fifth one.

Hon, check your cassette. Does it have a matrix number of 4XT-12211? If so, then that version of "My Own Way" is the Carnival version, i.e. the "that one's my favorite!" one I've been talking about. If not, then it should have a matrix number of C4-46003 and the whole of the cassette should sound like the whole of the regular Rio CD release. If that's the case, then that's just the regular album version, which is indeed the "fourth version" you were referencing. It's not really like the Carnival version, though; it's slowed down considerably from what I remember the track sounding like, so it's not got as much oomph as the Carnival version.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

Hold Back Duran, I mean, The Rain is fantastic. (Though the bassline of My Own Way pushes it over the line for me, even if it was Duran by numbers writing a "Duran Song".)

That "really don't give a DAMN!" line shocked my preteen ears into adulation.

Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 4 December 2003 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

That "really don't give a DAMN!" line shocked my preteen ears into adulation.

Heh! I too was shocked when I first heard that line as a little 12-year-old kiddo. At first I thought, "What? Did I hear that correctly?", and then when I listened to the album again I thought, "Yeah, that is what they're saying!" For about three years of my life I made damn (heh!) sure my parents never heard that particular song, but by the time I turned 16 I figured, "Eh, no big deal." *laughs*

"Hold Back The Rain" is awesome, isn't it? But now I'm stuck on "My Own Way", which I feel is probably because it's become apparent to me how hard it would be to acquire the version that I adore on any non-vinyl format. Plus, it's got that ultra-cool keyboard riff with the descending notes.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

But now I'm stuck on "My Own Way", which I feel is probably because it's become apparent to me how hard it would be to acquire the version that I adore on any non-vinyl format.

Well, if I follow you correctly, the version you adore is available on CD. In the Singles box set, it's the fourth track on the Rio CD. My cassette does indeed have the matrix number 4XT-12211, and the version on my cassette is identical to the one I ripped from the Rio CD from the Singles box set. It's the one I like best too!

-fh

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I still quite adore "The Chauffeur," and I'll take that a bold step further and say I positively love the uber-histrionic, Diamond Dogs-cribbing rendition of same on the much-maligned Thank You album (re-titled "Driveby").

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 4 December 2003 18:28 (seventeen years ago) link

fortunate hazel: YOU ARE KIDDING ME. YOU ARE F***ING KIDDING ME.

*squeals* Ok, I am so getting the singles box, then. I wasn't too totally bent out of shape over the singles box, but damn, hon, this is the best news anyone could ever give me. I will be selling two of my books at the end of this semester and should receive enough from that to get the singles box AND have a small sum to deposit in the bank.

... I'll take that a bold step further and say I positively love the uber-histrionic, Diamond Dogs-cribbing rendition of same on the much-maligned Thank You album (re-titled "Driveby")

Alex, I want to hug you now. I truly, seriously want to hug you. So few people seem to adore "Drive By" and I think it's the bee's knees and one of the highlights from Thank You and it's ultrafabulous to hear of someone else loving that track!

Have you seen the video for "The Chauffeur", btw? I figure any red-blooded hetero male would absolutely go wild for it, because of its subtle sexual overtones.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Thursday, 4 December 2003 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Ok, I am so getting the singles box, then.

Well, listen to this mp3 of the My Own Way I ripped from the singles box first to make sure it's the one you're looking for. Although the box set itself is quite nice, although I do think they wasted all that unused space on each of the CDs by not sticking the videos on there.

-fh

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:41 (seventeen years ago) link

nix that second "although," i wandered off mid-sentence to feed a cat.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 5 December 2003 01:43 (seventeen years ago) link

OH MY GOD.

fortunate hazel, you have made my fangirl life, hon. That is the version I was referring to! I'm currently swooning back and forth because it has been so damned long since I've been able to hear that version. I feel like I've turned 13 again and am excitedly playing my Rio cassette over and over and over again on my Walkman after school and doing pre-algebra homework.

That's it. That singles box set is mine. Oh yes, and as for the wonderful video idea -- well, that's Capitol Records for you, the glorious group of individuals with absolutely no vision whatsoever when it comes to musical artists they don't feel like pushing to the masses. *snort* But I should really shut up about them, because they (well, actually their parent co., EMI) actually decided to take that long, filmic version of the "New Moon On Monday" video off the shelves and put it into the new Greatest DVD collection.

I'm almost crying here, fyi. It's meant that much to me to hear this again. Thank you.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 5 December 2003 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

great! hopefully the box set will have some other surprises in store for you. i bought it and made myself a nice little compilation of the good b-sides and my favorite versions of the singles.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Friday, 5 December 2003 03:53 (seventeen years ago) link

Have you seen the video for "The Chauffeur", btw? I figure any red-blooded hetero male would absolutely go wild for it, because of its subtle sexual overtones.

You know, I thought it would be great, but it just kind of creeped me out. "Girls on Film" at least offered exactly that, this one had women playing pattycake... Still, the song is good!

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 5 December 2003 04:56 (seventeen years ago) link

great! hopefully the box set will have some other surprises in store for you.

I actually think it'd be fantastic to hear the "alternate slow mix" of "Faith In This Colour" in CD format. In crystal-clear CD format. In "it was probably remastered" CD format. Same goes for "Faster Than Light".

You know, I thought it would be great, but it just kind of creeped me out.

What element of the video freaked you out? I'm not confused here -- I was just wondering whether you'd mention the things most people would mention.

As for "Girls On Film" -- you call mud wrestling topless "playing pattycake"? Or is there a part of the video I'm not remembering? Because I remember the pillow fight, the massage session, the bit with the lifeguard and the kiddy pool, the horse-riding session, and either the mud wrestling match and the ensuing hosedown (in that uncensored version) or the little danceathon thingy (in that censored version).

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:17 (seventeen years ago) link

btw, fortunate hazel, I'll have you know that I've played that version of "My Own Way" at least three additional times since I dl'ed it.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:18 (seventeen years ago) link

subtle sexual overtones.

By that, you mean LEZZING UP?

THAT Kate (kate), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

By that, you mean LEZZING UP?

*snorts and nods* Mm hmm. But it's not totally overt -- I mean, they're not exactly going at it in the video. They're just... dancing. Seductively. While looking at each other. While... ah, I'm just going to ruin that scene for anyone who hasn't seen it yet, so I'll just quit while I'm ahead.

Tenacious Dee (Dee the Lurker), Friday, 5 December 2003 13:49 (seventeen years ago) link

My comment was in reference to "The Chaffeur", not "Girls on Film". You could desscribe things in "Girls on Film" as playing pattycake, but they actually play pattycake in "The Chaffeur"!

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 5 December 2003 16:23 (seventeen years ago) link

To paraphrase Derek & Clive, the full video (now available on DVD) of "Girls on Film" give me the horn!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 5 December 2003 19:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Out of the more obscure album tracks (not that, although not a single, I don't consider fan favourite "The Chauffeur" - my fave track by Duran Duran - "obscure") that I really love is "Lonely In Your Nightmare". But, in fact, all the tracks on "Rio" are great, which also includes "Hold Back The Rain".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 5 December 2003 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
I finally got my LP copy of Rio having traded away my original copy many years ago, and I *cannot* believe how trebly it sounds! I just don't remember the album sounding like this. The upper mids and treble are so aggressive I can't even turn the volume up very loud or it gets irritating. Does the CD sound like this?

Sean (Sean), Friday, 23 January 2004 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link

Probably. Hm...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 January 2004 01:39 (seventeen years ago) link

two years pass...
I listened to "Hold Back The Rain" (the 6'24" Kershenbaum mix edit version thank you) four times in a row this morning.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Monday, 31 July 2006 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Not a word of Ned's description is less than apt. The multi-tracked Chorus of Le Bon-Bons at the conclusion is a bad-idea-turned-good that the Killers should study.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Monday, 31 July 2006 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

Great song, although I like "Lonely In Your Nightmare" better out of the non-singles (and "The Chauffeur", but that song is sort of a recognized classic in spite of its non-single status, and certainly not quite as obscure)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 31 July 2006 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link

And now I just realised I made almost exactly the same post two and a half years ago. Oh well....

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 31 July 2006 23:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Not a word of Ned's description is less than apt. The multi-tracked Chorus of Le Bon-Bons at the conclusion is a bad-idea-turned-good that the Killers should study.

-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (soto.alfre...), July 31st, 2006.

Yes. Following that they should study music or hire some people who have the ability to play music to write and perform some songs. Then they'd be, like, totally awesome and stuff.

Mallory L . O'Donnell (That Bitch Camille), Monday, 31 July 2006 23:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Inspired by this, I have played said long remix for the first time in a while. Jesus H. this is one of the best things ever.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:10 (fourteen years ago) link

Any love for Last Chance On The Stairway? IMO the best track off Rio, an already brilliant album. The bridge is one of the great moments on 80's pop

It could be the end as we're sinking
Ooh, I don't know what you're thinking
I don't even know what you're drinking
But it keeps this heaven alive

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I tear up when I hear those verses.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:24 (fourteen years ago) link

Good song, though it never quite dug as deep with me as "New Religion" if we're talking album cuts. (Take as given that the singles off Rio are incandescent by default.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:42 (fourteen years ago) link

To which Ned credits the dialogue between his ego and alter ego.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:44 (fourteen years ago) link

Me, myself and the tragic story. (The last part being why "Hold Back..." isn't the number one song everywhere.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:46 (fourteen years ago) link

The ones I love from that album I are Rio, Hold Back The Rain (considering how much I adore the album version, how much will I like the 12"?), New Religion, LCOTS and The Chauffeur, so basically this thread has been one long OTM. Re: Ned's comments that he was 12 when he first heard it, I was possibly even younger, and indeed tracks like New Religion, with its eerie keyboards and clashing riff, lodged themselves into my head that much more easily on account of my formative age. It's long been a favourite record of mine.

Louis Jagger (Haberdager), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 00:52 (fourteen years ago) link

Hold Back The Rain (considering how much I adore the album version, how much will I like the 12"?)

Think of the 12" as the perfection of what the album version drives at.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 1 August 2006 01:30 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

"And if the fires burn out
There's only FIRE TO BLAME!"

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:22 (twelve years ago) link

Bimble is drunk and bimble loves this song forever. Amen.

Larry-O-Stab, Stereolab (Bimble), Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

(Well, should be 'stars burn out' but I prefer that take.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 January 2009 00:23 (twelve years ago) link

Ned sounds like he's hammered too!

Yeah, um, I can't say enough about this tune. When I finally bought Rio in '93 or thereabouts I was amazed by how insistently it demanded your attention.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 18 January 2009 02:38 (twelve years ago) link

The song is Simon's warning to John!

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 18 January 2009 02:41 (twelve years ago) link

Duran Duran was always awful and saying otherwise is futile yearning for one's childhood

even the "good" DD songs are totally pukeful

J0hn D., Sunday, 18 January 2009 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

not that I don't love them

J0hn D., Sunday, 18 January 2009 03:24 (twelve years ago) link

I only got into Duran Duran off the back of Red Carpet Massacre, so that's your theory debunked mr futile yearning.

open wide, come inside, it's apple butter (Autumn Almanac), Sunday, 18 January 2009 04:21 (twelve years ago) link

That's a neat clip up there.

The Undead Look (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Sunday, 18 January 2009 05:13 (twelve years ago) link

four months pass...

Finally got hold of the Rio volume in the Classic Albums DVD series.

The seventeen minute "US night mix version #574" is still the best ever.

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

Well, maybe the 13 minute "Italo morning mix version #173" is

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 02:17 (eleven years ago) link

There's an awesome version on Spotify which is 6.38 in length; is this the one Ned's talking about? Or is he waxing on a 7-minute version?

cumlord smedley (country matters), Tuesday, 19 May 2009 03:35 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

ok the whole album is amazing but the more i think about it, the more 'hold back the rain' and 'last chance on the stairway' reveal themselves as not just the dependable momentum-sustaining mood-enhancers but the crucial parts of the piece. like, i'd initially thought of them not as the 'main event' tracks but as very, very good filler, but for some reason this has mutated into them being both very, very good filler and the best songs on the album (and two of the best songs of the era)

welcome new ilxors (acoleuthic), Saturday, 21 November 2009 01:18 (eleven years ago) link

"Last Chance..." actually boasts decent lyrics! By which I mean the "it could be the atmosphere sinking" part.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 November 2009 01:20 (eleven years ago) link

that bit is showstopping

welcome new ilxors (acoleuthic), Saturday, 21 November 2009 01:43 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

This is the best Duran song ever. Sorry for finding this thread just now.

zeus, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:05 (ten years ago) link

No need to apologize.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:05 (ten years ago) link

It is a great song, but out of the "Rio" non-single album tracks (besides "The Chauffeur", which is widely recognized as a classic by a lot of people anyway), I feel like "Lonely In Your Nightmare" is the real underrated gem there.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:25 (ten years ago) link

Looks like I said roughly the same thing 8 years ago. Oh well. Still standing for it. :) Anyway, all "Rio" tracs are great. :)

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 22:26 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

US night mix is the greatest thing ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NrKxtI6H2s

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 2 April 2015 10:45 (six years ago) link

Yeah, I have a lot of time for this song. Probably even more for 'Last Chance On The Stairway', actually.


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