ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS

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(are you ready for a tortuous drawn out one-by-one process lasting right up til the Bank Holiday weekend? GOOD, ME TOO - so let's get it retarded...)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 100

Points: 144
No. of votes: 7
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MAX TUNDRA
Title: MASTERED BY GUY AT THE EXCHANGE
Label: DOMINO
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/masteredguyexchange.jpg

Warped but placid electronica from Ben Jacobs. Often abstract, often pop, usually both...

Comments:
Max Tundra is my Velvet Underground - his music just makes me want to go out and start a band. Or I guess, get a laptop and some software. Dozens of experimental ideas explode from every track, each given something like three seconds before the next one comes along, and yet, the songs are unbelievably catchy. A complete marvel.
Vinnie

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Recommended tracks: Lysine

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't like this list already.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

;)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 16 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Stevem, you're killing me!!!

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

(The wait, the wait!)

jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, it hurts, but it's better this way.

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

You're gonna do this for 100 albums??? (haha, at least mine is done)

Vinnie (vprabhu), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 99

Points: 153
No. of votes: 8
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BOB DYLAN
Title: LOVE AND THEFT
Label: COLUMBIA
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/loveandtheft.jpg

Legendary troubadour drops first album in aeons to mass acclaim - even topping the Pazz & Jop poll two years back.

Comments:
I know "Love and Theft" isn't going to get a lot of votes in this poll, but fuck it. It's one of the best albums of Dylan's career, and let's see what Mike Skinner and Dylan Mills are doing when they're sixty.
Not That Chuck

Recommended tracks: Sugar Baby

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 98

Points: 155
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: WILEY
Title: TREDDIN' ON THIN ICE
Label: XL RECORDINGS
Year: 2004

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The Eskiboy himself rises from the depths of London's grimey underground with a raw, confident debut rich with urban commentary, audacious humour and relentless yet inventive beats.

Comments:
On a couple of the songs Wiley reminds me of Mike Skinner in terms of both delivery and lyrics - the ones where he's larking around, where he probably sounds most British ("Goin' Mad" and "Pies"). His voice is really compelling over a whole album - it's kind of underwhelming at first esp. compared to MCs with really distinctive flows like Dizzee and Lady Fury, but there's this kind of laconic, understated refusal to be all hysterical which I like. (read more)
The Lex

Recommended tracks: Pies, I'm Goin' Mad

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I didn't know that commentary could have been provided!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

It was mentioned on the form - as optional request.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

take that, pazz and jop 2001!

Sean M (Sean M), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Everybody feel free to gmail me some comments for both the album AND track they voted for at #1 - I will definitely require some further assistance with some of these...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't belive Wiley is that low. Pies, people, pies. Wileys gonna eat you all like you were pies. You are gonna be in Wiley's stomach.

artdamages (artdamages), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 97

Points: 156
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: RYAN ADAMS
Title: HEARTBREAKER
Label: COOKING VINYL
Year: 2000

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Petulant icon for both the contemporary and alternative sides of country/folk rock in the US backs up his running mouth with a widely adored collection of heartfelt songs considered by many to be his finest work by some distance.

Comments:
Every tragic figure needs a peak to fall from.
BNW

Recommended tracks: Come Pick Me Up

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

We could do track recommendations too? Can I retroactively add some?

Mr. Tony Plow (Leee), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

yes please

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Excellent. Gonna try and gmail Steve some words soon and I second the recommendations, though Mr. M shld have the last word there.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 96

Points: 157
No. of votes: 6
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: EMMA BUNTON
Title: FREE ME
Label: POLYDOR
Year: 2004

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Barnet's finest poplet shakes off the Spice shackles forever with a lively second solo effort plastered with retro charm, consistent songwriting and jaunty hooks.

Comments: How did THAT get in there? (part 1)
sblueski

Recommended tracks: Maybe, Crickets Sing For Anamaria

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it just for one album or can I do recommendations for every entry I please? < /nerd>

Mr. Tony Plow (Leee), Monday, 16 August 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

do as many as you like, can't guarantee all will be used tho

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Let's dance, you hot, salty nut!

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Ex-Spice Girl in Dylan Topping Shocka!

frankE (frankE), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 95

Points: 160
No. of votes: 7
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: DAVID BANNER
Title: MISSISSIPPI - THE ALBUM
Label: Universal
Year: 2003

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Dirty South by name and nature - newcomer Banner crunks it up in style.

Comments: n/a

Recommended tracks: Cadillac On 22s

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I've gmailed you, stevem!

Mr. Tony Plow (Leee), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Reading these user comments is grebtness. But even more U&K is seeing how many (#1) votes each album's received. You rawks, steve.

Mr. Tony Plow (Leee), Monday, 16 August 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Love And Theft is a wonderful record. As is Treddin'. As is Mississippi. I'd better get writing my blurb for the #2 (if it is still #2!!!)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 16 August 2004 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 94

Points: 160
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: GOLDFRAPP
Title: FELT MOUNTAIN
Label: Mute
Year: 2000

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Comments: Walk through the woods, back and forth through time, in and out of loneliness - a poignant, haunting ramble you may never return from. Alright it's just an album...but what a voice, blending remarkably with the enveloping strings and gentle keys ranging between the sinister and soothing in tone. Accusations of being humourless and pretentious seem irrelevant when the scenery is this gorgeous. blueski

Recommended tracks: Human, Deer Stop

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:12 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 93

Points: 162
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE DELGADOS
Title: HATE
Label: Mantra
Year: 2002

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/hate.jpg

Comments: The Delgados do something to me. There's bands I like. Bands I love. But somehow, the Delgados... the Delgados feel like they're my team, y'know? There's something kind of heroic about them. And I've not even listened to their first two albums that much. But there's something deeply human about it all. I think it might be I listened to Hate after the Polyphonic Spree's album, where almost every line felt contrived in its "won-derrr" effect, and The Delgados got the wonder without even trying. Magical realism - the whole lushness of the Flaming Lips, for instance, or maybe Mercury Rev, but not in the 'art' sense. Music being played by human beings, being made by human beings, who don't necessarily want to create art, but something they care about. (read more) William Swygart

Recommended tracks: The Drowning Years, All You Need Is Hate

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:24 (nineteen years ago) link

That's lovely, Swygart.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 92

Points: 163
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: LOW
Title: TRUST
Label: Rough Trade
Year: 2002

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/trust.jpg

Comments: "La la la Song" is possibly the sweetest thing they've ever done, and "Tonight" is dreamy and magical enough to be on Loveless. They even manage to raise the pace on "Canada". Who could ask for more? (read more) Kilian Murphy

Recommended tracks: Canada

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Turned out indie again, n't it?

(I'm loving that you're still up doing this, stevem)

Alba (Alba), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:42 (nineteen years ago) link

that Trust cover is terrific, isn't it?

"(That's how you sing) amazing grace" would be my recommendation from that album and maybe from Low's entire catalogue.

jed_ (jed), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 91

Points: 167
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE MICROPHONES
Title: THE GLOW (PART 2)
Label: K
Year: 2001

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/glowpart2.jpg

Comments: This record is easy to like because it is a labour of love - it is a home made record for the sake of recording rather than making good music. Simultaneously, the home recording asthetic is appealing and works well to create a continuous disc of changing ambience (rather than a bunch of singles cut together). Despite this casualness, there is some wonderful musical moments as well: delicate vocals, close overdub vocals, an interesting mix of easy sounds (acoustic intruments), non repetitive form and seemless yet sudden changes in direction. a good study of home recording and beautiful music. (read more) D Barclay

Recommended tracks: The Glow (Part 2)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:50 (nineteen years ago) link

never heard of it - fantastic!

jed_ (jed), Monday, 16 August 2004 22:51 (nineteen years ago) link

This is turning out very well, congrats Mr. Stevem. :-) Actually now that I think I about it I didn't vote in the last big ol ILM rundown so this is surely a pattern on my part.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 02:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Have I mentioned how much I love lists ? ;)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link

"for the sake of recording rather than making good music"!! Yes you've sold me with that one!

(Nice elephant tho)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 06:09 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I don't think I even voted for Wiley and my comments were used for it! I'm glad it's there though, I rediscovered "Pies" a few days after I voted. Happier about Emma Bunton though.

The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 09:20 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe you should put them up in blocks of, say, 5 at a time?

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm glad TicoTico said it and not me. (And yes, the elephant is nice.)

But I expected more albums to be listed by this morning.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:25 (nineteen years ago) link

(Why I care about this is beyond me. I've heard hardly any of the albums nominated, and if I did hear them, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't like most of them. But I am enjoying this nevertheless.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:27 (nineteen years ago) link

so far this is an atrocity. but bravo stevem!!

jess, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:29 (nineteen years ago) link

What do you think of the tracks list?

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i think it's pretty "representative" so far (which means there's two things on there i voted for) (as opposed to none here, so far) (though maybe that's a good thing since were not even in the 80's yet.)

jess, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link

i will only be able to list 5-10 albums a day this way - the winner is likely to be revealed a week on Friday.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:40 (nineteen years ago) link

surely you jest?

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 90

Points: 168
No. of votes: 6
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: JOHNNY GREENWOOD
Title: BODYSONG
Label: EMI
Year: 2003

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Radiohead's maverick guitarist (amongst other things) takes time out to score Simon Pummell's lifecycle-themed film.

Comments: The album's opening track, "Moon Trills" seems portentous of some grand celestial event; its elongated Messiaen-inflected piano chords and Ondes-Martenot wails form and reform in a harmonic spectra that travels slowly toward a dark meridian. Later, the starlit melancholy of "Bode Radio / Glass Light / Broken Hearts" unfurls in vivid plumes of glass harmonica and strings, and is shot through with dissonant adornments not unlike those emblematic of Debussy. The drowsy fantasia of "Clockwork Tin Soldiers," reverberates like falling glass marbles aleatorically tinkling a ballet for mechanical dolls. "Convergence" begins with a clash and percolates into a percussive, clattering cacophony, fighting the hegemony of beauty and melody. The banjo-driven "24 Hour Charleston" echoes the adrenalin rush of a thief in the night, as dramatic electroacoustics envelop the discordant melody. And the monistic "Peartree" with its angular, Ligetian organ harmony resonates as though the music were dispersing in the higher vaults of a gothic cathedral. In "Milky Drops From Heaven," a hurried horn takes on an animal character, the music destructing and reconstructing itself from moment to moment, as if the jazz band were tumbling up and down invisible stairs, their tempo varying at the rate of their descent. On the closer, "Tehellet" (the Hebrew meaning of which roughly translates as "hope, expectation") a languid cello is made to sound like a choir of seraphim heralding an ascent.

Perhaps Jonny Greenwood is not one of the luminaries like Messiaen or Penderecki, but here, their light reflects upon him, like the sun upon the moon. Salvador Saca

Recommended tracks: Moon Trills

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Battenburg 2, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 90

Points: 170
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MOGWAI
Title: ROCK ACTION
Label: Southpaw
Year: 2001

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Comments: For all the guff Mogwai took for the alleged monotony of 'Come On Die Young', they craft a perfect counterpart to the
previous album's searing depression with brooding optimism on 'Rock Action'. The album title misleads a lot of listeners, even though its islands of fuzzy warmth are punctuated by rousing, 8+ minute epics. Lee Wang

Recommended tracks: You Don't Know Jesus, 2 Rights Make 1 Wrong

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

gah, i mean...

No. 89

Points: 170
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MOGWAI
Title: ROCK ACTION
Label: Southpaw
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/rockaction.jpg

Comments: For all the guff Mogwai took for the alleged monotony of 'Come On Die Young', they craft a perfect counterpart to the
previous album's searing depression with brooding optimism on 'Rock Action'. The album title misleads a lot of listeners, even though its islands of fuzzy warmth are punctuated by rousing, 8+ minute epics. Lee Wang

Recommended tracks: You Don't Know Jesus, 2 Rights Make 1 Wrong

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 10:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Perhaps Jonny Greenwood is not one of the luminaries like Messiaen or Penderecki, but here, their light reflects upon him, like the sun upon the moon.

.....

jess, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link

i know, beautiful isn't it

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahah, oh man.

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link

HURT US MORE STEVEM!

Battenburg 2, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:03 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 88

Points: 172
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: EXPLODING HEARTS
Title: GUITAR ROMANTIC
Label: Dirtnap
Year: 2003

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/guitarromantic.jpg

Comments: n/a (gmail me some if willing)

Recommended tracks: Rumours In Town

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:07 (nineteen years ago) link

(hey steve, if you get a moment could you email me my list. i've completely forgotten what i voted for at this point.)

jess, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm against the 80s.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

mailed you back Jess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Why was the top paragraph of my Bodysong writeup removed? It makes the last sentence seem awkward and it isn't the complete review.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry Salvador, my editing bad - I am grateful that you wrote what you did as many of these albums are lacking comments (usually because they didn't get #1 votes admittedly). The full comment was:

'Jonny In Wonderland Among The Talking Flowers

Jonny Greenwood loves the moon. When he performs as a member of Radiohead, the notoriously soft-spoken guitarist has been known to take a moment at outdoor concerts to silently point out its splendor to the otherwise oblivious audience. The music he composes is like the moon---arcane, otherworldy, and peculiar. Bodysong is infused with the same sense of wide-eyed wonder at the sublime.'

The album's opening track, "Moon Trills" seems portentous of some grand celestial event; its elongated Messiaen-inflected piano chords and Ondes-Martenot wails form and reform in a harmonic spectra that travels slowly toward a dark meridian. Later, the starlit melancholy of "Bode Radio / Glass Light / Broken Hearts" unfurls in vivid plumes of glass harmonica and strings, and is shot through with dissonant adornments not unlike those emblematic of Debussy. The drowsy fantasia of "Clockwork Tin Soldiers," reverberates like falling glass marbles aleatorically tinkling a ballet for mechanical dolls. "Convergence" begins with a clash and percolates into a percussive, clattering cacophony, fighting the hegemony of beauty and melody. The banjo-driven "24 Hour Charleston" echoes the adrenalin rush of a thief in the night, as dramatic electroacoustics envelop the discordant melody. And the monistic "Peartree" with its angular, Ligetian organ harmony resonates as though the music were dispersing in the higher vaults of a gothic cathedral. In "Milky Drops From Heaven," a hurried horn takes on an animal character, the music destructing and reconstructing itself from moment to moment, as if the jazz band were tumbling up and down invisible stairs, their tempo varying at the rate of their descent. On the closer, "Tehellet" (the Hebrew meaning of which roughly translates as "hope, expectation") a languid cello is made to sound like a choir of seraphim heralding an ascent.

Perhaps Jonny Greenwood is not one of the luminaries like Messiaen or Penderecki, but here, their light reflects upon him, like the sun upon the moon.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 87

Points: 176
No. of votes: 7
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: HOT SNAKES
Title: AUTOMATIC MIDNIGHT
Label: Swami
Year: 2002

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/automaticmidnight.jpg

Comments: n/a (gmail me some if willing)

Recommended tracks: Salton City

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

The music he composes is like the moon - lifeless, pale and when you get up close it's basically a load of rock.

Battenburg 2, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

oh good.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:12 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 86

Points: 186
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: CALEXICO
Title: FEAST OF WIRE
Label: City Slang
Year: 2003

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/feastofwire.jpg

Comments: So easy to listen to, so transporting. Spaghetti western varmints on the spit and noodling tape-loops never tasted so good.
Swing

Recommended tracks: Sunken Waltz, Quattro (World Drifts In)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:14 (nineteen years ago) link

"Kik Off" isn't gonna be top 100, huh? You people all suck.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I liked your comment on it a lot.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 85

Points: 191
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: STEPHEN MALKMUS
Title: STEPHEN MALKMUS
Label: City Slang
Year: 2003

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/stephenmalkmus.jpg


A brief "Song by Song" explanation by Stephen Malkmus (as found on the Amazon.co.uk listing!)

1. heavy blindness
2. perky whimsy
3. gawky fun
4. emotional gravestone
5. exile on indie street
6. thin lizzy meets wire
7. spazz out and run
8. protest song against colonialism
9. sad condom ad
10. russian reggae
11. tom petty is always in
12. i said this was supposed to sound like"heroes" when we mixed it


Recommended tracks: Jo Jo's Jacket, Jenny And The S Dog

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

oop the year was 2001 of course (/pedantry police)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

This (Malkmus) is the only thing I've voted for to turn up so far. I assume this is because I'm populist rather than really obscure.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

im happy - exp hearts and glow pt 2 are both in my countdown.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Talking of pedantry about years, Mystikal's 'Bouncin' Back' was first released in 2001, as an album track, rather than 2002.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

same here peter

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 84

Points: 191
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: QUEENS OF THE STONE AGE
Title: RATED R
Label: Polydor
Year: 2000

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/ratedr.jpg

The brash guitars and driving drums are present and correct, but where you'd expect snarling venom, you get tuneful howling - Josh Homme a more despondent yet philosophical wolf rather than a raging one. Strangely it kinda works, QOTSA's knack for a catchy retro-metal hook (stuttering is always good) combining with some grim wit, devilish flair and energetic sass for a relatively refreshing debut avoiding most of the cliches atypical of the genre (why...why was I programmed to write PR blab).

Recommended tracks: Feelgood Hit Of The Summer, The Lost Art Of Keeping A Secret

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:08 (nineteen years ago) link

'Tension Head' also recommended by the 1 person who put this top of their list

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:10 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 83

Points: 202
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: STEPHEN MALKMUS & THE JICKS
Title: PIG LIB
Label: Domino
Year: 2003

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/piglib.jpg

The naysayers were wrong - Stephen Malkmus just bounces back brighter each and every time. This album was streamlined to the point of perfection, despite being at the very heart of things, a prog album. The subtleties and intricacies of Pig Lib only reveal themselves upon extended listenings, but boy are they worth it. His most solid work since Wowee Zowee and up there in the best releases of his career. dog latin

Recommended tracks: Animal Midnight

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

hey, how many tracks and albums were nominated overall?

Symplistic (shmuel), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

1st album i voted for. unbelievable that pig lib and slanted & enchanted are more or less the same guy. that's a very long road to go in 11 years. i still prefer s&e by miles but pl doesn't fare too bad in this age of mediocrity.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

crap. i am a liar. i also voted for ryan adams. i would have guessed that he would crack the top 50. heartbreaker was his personal everest.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Steve, check your gmail (that is, if you *are* the 78th stevem).

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:40 (nineteen years ago) link

I would guess that's his year of birth.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

it's his girth, he's a fatty

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:43 (nineteen years ago) link

It's his enormous collection of old blues shellac.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:45 (nineteen years ago) link

he spends his summers scowering the southland for them

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:51 (nineteen years ago) link

He plays a mean harmonica and records as "Beck". Dude, I love that track, 'Leave Me On the Moon'.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

FUCK A BUNCH OF BORING ASS MALKMUS

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:00 (nineteen years ago) link

ha ha sorry about that

carry on

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

fuck, I totally forgot to vote for this thing! I thought that deadline was for nominees, not final votes. yargh.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

FUCK WASHING A MASCIS

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

WHAT DID DINO JR'S VOYEURISTIC ITALIAN TOUR ROADIE SPEND HIS NIGHTS DOING?

WASHING A-MASCIS FUCK

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

The pace is maddening.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Malkmus >>>> David Banner ?????

PS: I think Cadillac on 22s is so overrated. There are such better songs on that album. like a PYAAAAAMP

djdee2005, Tuesday, 17 August 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Battenburg 2 wrote:

The music he composes is like the moon - lifeless, pale and when you get up close it's basically a load of rock.

I'm not being defensive, because you have your right to like and dislike whatever you want, but I'm interested in knowing: have you even heard the record? What do you mean by "lifeless" and "pale" (refer to certain pieces or methods of his)? Do you mean "rock" figuratively? I hope so, because the record is "basically a load of modern classical." There are NO traces of "rock music" in Bodysong.


Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I actually think that---even though Battenburg 2 may have not meant this--- perceiving the music from a Radiohead / rock perspective was the problem with the reception to Bodysong. Few were the times when I read the album being reviewed in the framework of the sound / influences / "genres" of the actual music.

Actually, the critiques of Kiid A and Amnesiac suffered from the same problem of musical ignorance (not to sound arrogant, but if you're going to whine about something formally, at least do your homework / research). People whined about Radiohead "ripping off Aphex Twin, the whole Nothing catalogue" when it BARELY sounded like them, and actually literally STOLE bits from modern classical and jazz. And, to my ears, it worked wonders. And people should get over it. Nothing is completely authentic.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 21:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i really wish i had got my shit together and voted now cos in fact i haven't even heard ANY of the albums listed thus far.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Tuesday, 17 August 2004 22:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Are people on ILM bugged about things being inauthentic now?

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes and suddenly everyone loves Wilco and hates crunk.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Cats and dogs falling from the sky and mating with one another, etc etc

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 00:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I've just sold a lot of these records on Ebay.

adam. (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 05:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi Salvador!! Yeah sorry I wasn't going to let accuracy get in the way of a one liner, I was mostly defending our celestial pal the moon from more mystical metaphors.

I am glad that Jonny G takes his place among the electroacoustic greats!

Battenburg 2, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 08:57 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 82

Points: 204
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: XIU XIU
Title: KNIFE PLAY
Label: Rue Christine
Year: 2002

http://www.base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/knifeplay.jpg

Comments: ...it is the perfect mix of electronics and acoustic instruments. it has some surprising and perfect breaks (like the ripped up piano falling down the stairs riff and the 'breaking into children's hospitals' dialogue.) it is ambiently put together - to vaguely define what i mean by 'ambiently' is that each song has a feel in the way it was recorded and its instrumentation (see: beat happening's yellow record or go go go airheart 'love my life hate my friends'). this ambientness appeals to the diy asthetic of 'personal' music which is utterly appropriate with the strong emotional aspect of most songs. and finally, the songwriting is good. despite and complex field of sounds and a seemingly random performance, each piece is essentially in pop form and contains at least one really good line/catchy part. plus this record also has amazing packaging (again appeals to diy in all of us)... (here)

Recommended tracks: I Broke Up (SJ)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 08:57 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 81

Points: 206
No. of votes: 8
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: ATMOSPHERE
Title: LUCY FORD
Label: Roule/EMI
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/lucyford.jpg

Comments: '...easily the best undie record of the past five years or thereabouts; really consistent lyrically, excellent beats too' M Matos

Recommended tracks: Nothing But Sunshine

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 09:28 (nineteen years ago) link

label correction: Rhymesayers Entertainment

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 09:29 (nineteen years ago) link

The tension created by none of one's choices being displayed as yet is dizzying.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 80

Points: 207
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: NEW ORDER
Title: GET READY
Label: London
Year: 2001

ihttp://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/getready.jpg

Seriously, why doesn't everyone adore _Get Ready_?

Recommended tracks: Crystal (album version with gorgeous intro), Close Range

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 80

Points: 207
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: NEW ORDER
Title: GET READY
Label: London
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/getready.jpg

Seriously, why doesn't everyone adore _Get Ready_?

Recommended tracks: Crystal (album version with gorgeous intro), Close Range

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 09:47 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 79

Points: 209
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: D'ANGELO
Title: VOODOO
Label: Cooltempo
Year: 1999/2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/voodoo.jpg

Comments: Very few men in the R&B game can do, or have done, the kind of sexy that D'Angelo pulls off on Voodoo. I can't think of any other way to say it: it's *feminine*. Each song pulses, builds, relaxes, coils, pushes, pulls, writhes, bucks, but in a template of its own. D's cannot be gratified with verse-verse (foreplay-foreplay), chorus (do it), verse (token fondling), chorus-chorus-chorus (do it do it do it do it), fade out (sound familiar?) He plays with expectations so well - a song you're positive is about to reach its resolution, like Spanish Joint, finds enough in the tank to kick back into another long jam (much like Stevie Wonder's "Runnin"). Another song may, at the height of its ecstasy, simply break off hard, no explanation, a total withdrawal of pleasure. When a classic masculine voice breaks in, like Meth and Redman on "Left and Right" the textural offset sounds great, but their boasting ("drop that ass when i'm finished /and watch it smoke") reminds you of how subtle D plays it. Then again none of this amounts to a hill of beans if you're not down w/the sound but I find the songs just fabulously well-produced, very impressively orchestrated, and if only D'Angelo would stop mumbling you might even be able to sing along. But after a) writing the songs b) singing all the parts c) producing everything I'm willing to cut him some slack and say that it just goes with the indeterminate sexiness that typifies the whole joint. Basta! Tracer Hand

Recommended tracks: Spanish Joint, Left And Right, Untitled (How Does It Feel)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh GOD yes. Three of us were sitting in a restaurant last night, wibbling on about what a great album this is.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 10:00 (nineteen years ago) link

at last!

pick up the pace? pleeeeeaase?

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the slow place. It make me notice each entry more.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 11:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Great description from Tracer on the D'Angelo too. Mkes me want to listen to the whole thing again ( i usually give up about half way through).

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh dear and it all kicked off so well with Wiley and Emma Bunton. I've never heard of half of these and am mostly unbothered about that.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:17 (nineteen years ago) link


No. 78

Points: 209
No. of votes: 21
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: JUNIOR SENIOR
Title: D-D-DON'T STOP THE BEAT
Label: Mercury
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/dddontstopthebeat.jpg

Junior Senior are garage rock for a world where disco happened, i.e.
our one. On stage Junior is a superstar and Senior is a menace;
offstage Junior is shyly charming and Senior confusedly aloof. But I
love Senior particularly after studying the credits and discovering
that he does ALMOST NOTHING on this record except be his own bad bear
self.

If you really want a reason why this album is (might be) important
('important') then consider that it reclaims the canon for us
frivolous modern pop fans. Bob Dylan made TOTALLY GREAT records but
his imitators simply didn't until JS came and gummified him - bubbling up the Band was probably beyond them so they just sampled "Chest Fever" instead. Elsewhere we're served plastic dayglo Jaggers and inflatable bouncy Ramones and the MC5 run through a Spectrum sprite editor. More importantly though this stuff cheers you up and makes the sun shine.

Recommended tracks: Move Your Feet, Boy Meets Girl, Just Shake It Brother

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Whoops, those comments were provided by a Mr Tom Ewing of London, England.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link


No. 77

Points: 210
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE WRENS
Title: THE MEADOWLANDS
Label: Absolutely Kosher
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/themeadowlands.jpg

Comments: Because it's intensely passionate indie rock that makes a strong case for why Pitchfork is still worth reading after all.

Because as soon as I heard "Happy" the first time I made ten comp cdrs for my friends specifically so they could hear it, too.

Because after a week of non-stop listening, "Hopeless" suddenly clicked and may have become my favorite track of the year. I particularly love the piano climax at the end.

Because the synth strings on "Thirteen Grand" remind of Kiss Me, Kiss Me, Kiss Me-era Cure without making the song sound kitsch at all. turkey

Recommended tracks: Happy, Hopeless, Thirteen Grand

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 13:37 (nineteen years ago) link


No. 76

Points: 214
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: MICHAEL MAYER PRESENTS...
Title: IMMER
Label: Kompakt
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/immer.jpg

It's not an album as such but it's a mix compilation that introduces you to a range of artists and tracks you won't have encountered before unless you've been keeping score on the post-millennial contemplative form of dance music dubbed 'microhouse' for it's minimal yet intricate production ethos - squaring tech-house's pulsating parameters (with Terry Francis 'Architectures' as a reference point), stripping the original, deeper American sound of it's more obtuse personalised characteristics (the older vocal-led tracks from Deep Dish and Mood II Swing e.g. 'Stay Gold', 'I See You Dancing') and moving the filter-obsessions of Glasgow's DJ Q and the French crew off centre-stage, replacing them with shuffling beats and tiny clicks, sometimes escaping 4/4 formulas altogether, and wandering into extra spaces not quite explored or dwelled on.

Recommended tracks: Thomas Fehlmann 'Gratis', Akufen 'Psychometry (vol 3)', Frank Martiniq 'Adriano (Michael Mayer mix)'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I bet I wouldn't like most of any of this, but a lot of the graphic design is really attractive.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the Calexico, Dylan, Wiley, Delgados and Emma B covers are naff, New Order's is really meh for Saville. The only one I really like so far is Goldfrapp's because I can make out a lion's face in her symmetrically reflected hair.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

yeh, was that done on purpose, stevem?

dog latin (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

black dice got jobbed

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the Wiley cover. It's Victoria Park in Hackney in the mad snow from Spring '03 (worst in London for 25 years), apparently, so it's more personal/specific than just Wiley = c-c-c-cold.
I like the font for the album title as well. Reminds me of Only Fools and Horses. Looks very cool in a funny way on 'Who ate all the pies?' posters all over my bit of London.

Jamie, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought it might be Clissold Park. It was funny on one of the Wiley threads because someone observed how it resembled an Idlewild cover, even the typeface!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Aghrrr! Not Idlewild!!! (Second only to Grandaddy in my most hated-ness)

Jamie, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

yay immer! it's about time one of my picks ended up on this thread. interesting list so far...

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

i like the wrens sleeve

david acid (gareth), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

black dice got jobbed

-- ())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (j.dubz@RoffleStationZero), August 18th, 2004. (later)

You're right. I really wished someone would have followed up my "Things Will Never Be The Same" track nomination with a "Beaches and Canyons" album nomination but it never happened.

Reed Rosenberg (reed), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I nominated that too :(

())(())()()()(()(LASER)()()()LA(Z)E(R)()()()((L)()()(A)(S(E)R()()()) (ex machina, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 75

Points: 214
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE NEW PORNOGRAPHERS
Title: ELECTRIC VERSION
Label: Matador
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/electricversion.jpg

Comments: On their second album, Vancouver?s the New Pornographers take a shot at redemption for the bad artists and their sickly moons. By exalting the shabby (?From Blown Speakers?), making the trivial awesome (?Miss Teen Wordpower?) and generally coming off like an underdog despite having put out one of the greatest debut albums (2000?s Mass Romantic) in Canadian history, they pull off a terrifically nerdy pop album in the tradition of the Cars? Candy-O.
Where their debut instantly made you a fan, with automatic-new-favourite-songs like ?Letter From An Occupant? and ?Wild Homes?, Electric Version isn?t so aggressively addictive. All the same elements are there, even reclusive Dan Bejar (who very rarely appears live the group), but they?re not presented as bombastically as they were before. The softer touch actually bodes well for the long-term enjoyment potential of Electric Version, because while the highs aren?t as exhilarating, the comedown afterwards isn?t as harsh.
Horace Mann

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Recommended tracks: From Blown Speakers, Miss Teen Wordpower

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

One quarter of the way through in three days, we're on schedule...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

will this thread end up being longer than the nominating thread??

frankE (frankE), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Can we have a rough indication of how many more assy albums there are to come?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

assy vs. sassy

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

bassy wins

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Can we at least have a Wes-style teaser of what might still be to come, to whet our appetites?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Damn, I thought Immer would be much higher.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought immer would be much higher, too. its placement does not bode well for the bulk of my nominations. if bassy wins however, good times may lie ahead.

tricky disco (disco stu), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

depends on the quality of your sound system really...still, for Alba...

COMING UP ON I LOVE MUSIC'S TOP 100 ALBUMS 2000-2004...

More 90s altrock sell-outsheroes!

Mad Mancs, Beyond Quintegenaridome!

And...HIS favourites...

KEEP IT LOCKED!!!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Battenburg 2 (humblepie@gmail.com) wrote in August 18th, 2004.

Hi Salvador!! Yeah sorry I wasn't going to let accuracy get in the way of a one liner, I was mostly defending our celestial pal the moon from more mystical metaphors.

I am glad that Jonny G takes his place among the electroacoustic greats!

You really are an infantile little brat, aren't you? Maybe you can find someone to buy you a life.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I think people, even in nu-ILM, should be allowed to make flippant digs at Radiohead without it getting nasty.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:10 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry, Radiohead side-projects.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

radiohead side projects like amnesiac?

buuuuuuurn.

peter smith (plsmith), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I think people, even in nu-ILM, should be allowed to make flippant digs at Radiohead without it getting nasty.

Radiohead, Belle and Sebastian, the Cure, the list goes on, really.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

when is the countdown going to resume?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

i think salvador is a humourless tool

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Salvador and Battenberg, please refrain from a drawn-out FITE on this thread - keep it brief and pithy at least.

The countdown will resume tomorrow.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

That's a deal, stevem. :)

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Since over-earnestness (or maybe just earnestness) is seen as one of the worst possible crimes around here (where fun reigns with an iron fist), it is natural that people would give Salvador a hard time. I would like to see him post more often.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks, Rockist. I've always liked you quite a lot. :)

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

BTW, Rockist. You're aware I'm Arabic, right? My friend in LA is going to bring me a BUNCH of Oum Kalthoum records I wasn't aware of, in Sept. Maybe we could trade in the future?

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 18:56 (nineteen years ago) link

(It looked to me like Battenburg was apologising.)

I think it likely that FITEs will arise from this list but it would be nice if they weren't bitter.

Do The New Pornographers still sound like The Wonderstuff?

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Stevem, how many albums and tracks were nominated overall????!!!

btw, you must have put an awe-inspiring amount of work into researching the archives for intelligent comments and recommended tracks. Great work!

Symplistic (shmuel), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Do The New Pornographers still sound like The Wonderstuff?

More like the dBs, I think, but I haven't heard a lot of the Wonderstuff.

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link

(Salvador, yes, and I really did mean to get in touch some time. Unfortunately, as I've said before, I don't have a burner or any other working way to copy anything. I think that will probably change some time in the next half year, but that's not definite.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:07 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought Junior Senior would be on the top 30 at least

fernando, Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

It got more votes easily than anything else so far, but they were all pretty low votes obviously (mine was fairly high, dont remember exactly where)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it me or has there been a fuck of a lot of obscure indie shit on this list so far?

Plus Junior Senior's album was total ephemeral pop thrill = people will remember it but only vaguelly = liek Tom said, low votes and lots.

Jimmybommy JimmyK'KANG (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Symplistic: 191 albums, 193 tracks

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, I'm not greedy, Rockist. I can just burn all of 'em for you and send them.

Salvador Saca (Mr. Xolotl), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 21:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Let me know what you have before you burn them for me, because I already have a lot and there might be some duplication unless these are extremely rare (like live recordings from her 67ish tour of Arab/North African countries).

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 18 August 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i didn't vote for any of these choices. i knew my choice wouldn't get on but new order 'get ready'? come on.

keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

So far my only pick that's made it's the Dylan. Grr.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Keith - you and Scott P were my only hopes for backing up How I Long To Feel That Smmmer In My Heart but I am concerned you have let me down.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 00:45 (nineteen years ago) link

junior senior kind of reminds me of black grape

artiste, Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:48 (nineteen years ago) link

is that good or bad?

Ian c=====8 (orion), Thursday, 19 August 2004 01:57 (nineteen years ago) link

im not sure

artiste, Thursday, 19 August 2004 02:37 (nineteen years ago) link

hey Alba, I backed you on that one, not sure how many points I gave it though

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 19 August 2004 07:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Alba - I voted for "How I Long..." I think.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 August 2004 07:44 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 74

Points: 218
No. of votes: 11
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: SONIC YOUTH
Title: SONIC NURSE
Label: Geffen
Year: 2004

ihttp://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/sonicnurse.jpg

Comments: ...this thing's so BIG and the guitar's so FLUID and lovely and Thurston's lost a little of his more obnoxious hippy tendencies and Kim's following up on "Sympathy for the Strawberry" w/an even better version of allowing BEAUTY into her voice and songs w/"I Love You Golden Blue" and Steve's caught a dose of FUNK or something (that impression got pretty confirmed live in Ak, I've never found myself unable to refrain from semidancing at an Sy show before), this is just so so good. ONE LISTEN IN, however. Still, for a record a lot of people have called a "grower" (here at least, like I read anyone elses' reviews anyway), that's NOT A BAD THING. Hoohah. Andrew Thames

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Recommended tracks: Unmade Bed, I Love You Golden Blue

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link

As good as the Kim songs are on Sonic Nurse, and they're pretty good, "Sympathy for the Strawb" is still better. I'm guessing Murray Street is going to make an appearance later on.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I forget what I nominated, do you remember?

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, for i have the e-mail you sent

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:43 (nineteen years ago) link

can you tell me, please, stevem? I think my album ws 'scary world theory'?

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 09:52 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 73

Points: 221
No. of votes: 16
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: SPOON
Title: KILL THE MOONLIGHT
Label: 12xu
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/killthemoonlight.jpg

Comments: Spoon is one of my favourite bands from the last few years. The band manages to merge (no pun intended) melodic pop with a spare rhythmic sensibility. Britt Danie's voice is a great rock 'n' roll instrument ? expressive and affecting. I don't find him whiny at all. The band used to wear its influences too plainly on its collective sleeves, borrowing from Wire and the Pixies on its earlier albums, but Spoon has sublimated these touchstones with its last two albums. Bruce Urquhart

Recommended tracks: The Way We Get, You Gotta Feel It

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi I'm new here!!! What is the difference between you guys and Pitchfork?

Eager Young Thing, Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't find it now cozen, won't it be in your 'sent mail'?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi I'm new here!!! What is the difference between you guys and Pitchfork?

So far? Emma Bunton.

o. nate (onate), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm undecided about that album and Spoon in general. They've done two tracks I really like - Everything Hits At Once and the new one I Summon You. I can't see how people can get so very excited about them though - maybe they have fairly good songs but it's not as if they're any more exciting than that. Even Wilco manage to out-weird them.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Hi I'm new here!!! What is the difference between you guys and Pitchfork?

So far? Emma Bunton.

Ha ha.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Another American indie band with no cultural impact over here whatsoever - I've never felt in the slightest bit inclined to listen to them on the basis of anything I've read. I think Steve was right with the 'British people need to vote more' thing because I'm finding most of this a bit alienating, like its another subculture from which I'm completely excluded.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:21 (nineteen years ago) link

That should be the ILM catchline:

"What's the difference between us guys and Pitchfork? The odd Emma Bunton track"

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:22 (nineteen years ago) link

You tell 'em Matt - overindied, overearnest and over here.

(joke)

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually I counted the other day that I own 46 of the albums on the original nominations list and so far about four of them have appeared, I think. I might have everything in the top 20!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't mean to put down anybody, least of all steve's awesome effort in putting this list together, but i'm not feeling this list at all in the slightest!! (and i am an american too)

i am kicking myself for not participating in the voting. how american is that???

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The tracks list is much less US indie so far. I don't know if this is because all the indie is yet to come, or because tracks are more important in the worlds of r&b, dance and hiphop.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link

people keep complaining about how none of their picks have made it yet, but we're only in the 70s...don't you want your picks to be higher, etc etc.

jess, Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link

jess OTM. Two albums from my top 5 (Trust and The Glow: Pt2) have already appeared, which gives me the ph34r I am hugely out of step with ilXors.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

given the nature of the nominations list, i think there was a core of about 20-30 albums that ALL of the UK & europe pop/dance/rap fans pretty much had to vote for, and i fully expect to see all of these towards the top of the list. i am optimist!

pete b. (pete b.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:49 (nineteen years ago) link

fuck pop.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link

MUAHAHAHAHA!

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 19 August 2004 10:55 (nineteen years ago) link

so far this is an atrocity. but bravo stevem!!
-- jess (hah...), August 17th, 2004 12:29 PM.

This was jess complaining that Low and The Microphones didn't come higher.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 11:17 (nineteen years ago) link

alba - have you heard m83's 'dead seas, cities, ghosts, thingies' album? heads up holla!

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

No! Where's my CD?

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:34 (nineteen years ago) link

oh my. oops. making it to-day. need to download some good ipod->hard-drive recovery software first.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:41 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 72

Points: 227
No. of votes: 10
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: SHELLAC
Title: 1000 HURTS
Label: Touch & Go
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/1000hurts.jpg

Comments: A return to form after the disappointing 'Terraform'. Shellac experiment with other things here (there's a slightly confused jazz fusion part in 'Canaveral'), but ultimately don't deviate too much from the sound that people expect. It's very possibly their funniest album too - who could listen to 'Squirrel Song', and after hearing "And there were squirrels...real squirrels... and there were thousands... this ain't some kind of metaphor, this is real..." not wonder exactly what kind of event was behind it? Essential for all the non-rockist rockists out there. aldo cowpat

Recommended tracks: Squirrel Song, A Prayer To God, Watch Song

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I've not even listened to more than four albums on the list, three of which are the rap LPs that have made it so far. This is hardly surprising, considering both my tastes and those of ILM. I'm a bit surprised by the lack of electronic music, though, both on the nominee list and on the top 100 thus far.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Attention Alba: you have mail

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I've replied, but I wish I hadn't. It's really crap.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

You bastard. It clearly wasn't that urgent - I would have written something better if I wasn't so busy at work.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

more albums please

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

busy at work is the right term, it's why i have been unable to update more frequently, apologies

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

(I know it's not the point, but even looking at my own voting slip, it's not at all representative of what I listen to and like, cos of the limitations of the system.)

mei (mei), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Well mine was aside from it left out the Archies and shit

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 71

Points: 227
No. of votes: 11
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI
Title: HOW I LONG TO FEEL THAT SUMMER IN MY HEART
Label: Mantra
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/howilongtofeel.jpg

Comments: Most of us have artists we love, and rant about, but secretly know aren't for everyone. It's all very well banging on about how terminally underrated Crispy Ambulance or whatever are, but if you live in the real world you know it will ever be thus.

BUT THEN THERE ARE THE RECORDS THAT YOU KNOW EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WOULD LOVE IF THEY'D ONLY BLOODY LISTEN.

That name, that awful underachiever's name, that's the only thing I can think of that has thwarted Gorky's Zygotic Mynci. That and maybe hearing some teenage stuff of theirs that well, isn't for everyone. On 'How I Long To Feel That Summer In My Heart' they shot their load.
They pissed gold. They made a perfect album. No wizards, no Welsh
language and no wacky rock outs (not that all three can't be great, but you know - they *tried* to accommodate). Just wave after wave of
classic, elegiac love songs. This isn't about some stupid indie ghetto 'perfect 60s pop' malarky - these songs live and breathe in the real world. I keep imagining Euros Childs or John Lawrence just banging their heads against a wall and screaming "Well what else can we do?"

So err yeah, basically, you are all stupid scum and deserve to die.
Alba

Recommended tracks: Honeymoon With You, These Winds..., Her Hair Hangs Long

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Stood On Gold was Nick's choice actually, and he wrote that in a rush, he apologises

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Terrible sleeve, too.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 70

Points: 245
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE FALL
Title: THE REAL NEW FALL LP
Label: Action
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/therealnewfall.jpg

Comments: their best for 10 maybe 17/18 years - you know it's good when (a) the cover version is the weakest song and (b) they can use it as the basis for their current live set and we don't really mind at all... fletcher dexter

Recommended tracks: Contraflow, Open The Boxoctosis #2, Protein Protection

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 69

Points: 252
No. of votes: 11
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: GHOSTFACE (KILLAH)
Title: THE PRETTY TONEY ALBUM
Label: Def Jam
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/prettytoney.jpg

Comments: If you told me 10 years ago that Ghost would be the only real Wu-survivor still puttin out quality product I would've thought you were crazy but here we are... he's really the only one consistently putting out good shit, the one who's done the most to stay "true to the game" so to speak. I thought BW was okay (Supreme Clientele is pure genius) but I'm really lookin forward to this... Ghost is one of those guys I just really want to see succeed and stick around. Shakey Mo Collier

Recommended tracks: Tooken Back, Biscuits, Holla

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:13 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 68

Points: 252
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: GILLIAN WELCH
Title: TIME (THE REVELATOR)
Label: WEA
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/timetherevelator.jpg

Comments: Gillian Welch

Recommended tracks: April 14th Part 1, Revelator, I Dream A Highway

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 67

Points: 254
No. of votes: 15
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: GOLDFRAPP
Title: BLACK CHERRY
Label: Mute
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/blackcherry.jpg

Comments: Sticking a horse's tail on your arse turns you into a sexy hybrid of Kate Bush and Donna Summer - proven by the scientific electropopart extravaganza that is 'Black Cherry'. Avant-garde more in aspirations rather than in execution, if 'Felt Mountain' was a lonely walk in the woods, 'Black Cherry' is a more an effortless glide down a river of Alison's own vaginal juices - tho hardly as bawdy as Peaches, and a world away from the lewdness of Lil Kim. Even if that's not appealing than the tight programming and quirky hooks of Will Alexander should be. Pretentious? Mais naturellement.

Recommended tracks: Strict Machine, Crystalline Green, Black Cherry

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

STEVEM THAT'S DISGUSTING.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

haha I totally don't remember e-mailing you re: this steve (I do vaguely remember posting two nominations to a thread) but cool anyway.

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

yeh i'm not sure i got votes off you cozen, couldn't find e-mail

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 66

Points: 262
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: CORNELIUS
Title: POINT
Label: Matador
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/point.jpg

Comments: Every time Keigo Oyamada returns to recording, he's something different, not necessarily for dilletantism's sake, but because he's borrowed something old and learnt something new - each album (and remix collection) speaks a different language to each other, as it were. In an ever-changing yet cyclical world, he sets his own agenda and he keeps it that way. Point is Keigo at his most
lovely and most loved.

Recommended tracks: Point Of View Point, Brazil, Bird Watching At Inner Forest

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

boh, those comments were from Barima

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

"Drop" is far and away the best track on 'Point', and one of the best tracks of the 21st century.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I voted for Point but then I borrowed it from the library again and decided I don't like it much at all, beyond the first track, which is okay. (I only voted for five albums. I had to vote for something.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

"brazil" used to be a radio-show-favorite of mine a year or two ago.

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

do you like fantasma better, rockist?

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay! I nominated that one. I lurv it soooo much. I like Fantasma a great deal too, but, whereas that one is really schitzo and wild, Point I love for being so homogenous and dense and shimmery.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

peter smith, you are giving me too much credit for keeping up with things. Point is the only Cornelius I've heard. (I can't remember if I heard something from it on the radio that got me interested or if it just turned up in the library after I had seen him mentioned here.) Also, in fairness, as we all know, this isn't a style of music I usually like much.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a little concerned about the "recommended tracks" thing. The best song on the Goldfrapp record is obviously "Train" (and it's beyond my personal favorite as I think it was also the most popular single released from it too...)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yes, that's true.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

you should hear that one rockist, if you liked point at all. to my ears, theyre both inconsistent, but fantasma comes out on top. its more varied, like nick said, and comes off a little like odelay in places, if that appeals to you at all.

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Train and Strict Machine are virtually identical anyway.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

That's also true. But 'Train' is marginally sexier.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i disagree there. with recommended tracks i am going by what people mention for their top rated album, and then adding whatever i see mentioned on archived threads, or if i know the album i pick a couple of tracks that i think sum up the range on it best.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Strict Machine was a more popular single in the UK, having been re-released after usage on an advert, and having a more memorable video.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:29 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 65

Points: 263
No. of votes: 12
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BIG & RICH
Title: HORSE OF A DIFFERENT COLOUR
Label: Warner
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/horseofadifferentcolour.jpg

Comments: Big & Rich: Album of the Decade?

Recommended tracks: Save A Horse Ride A Cowboy, Wild West Show, Six Feet Town

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Strict Machine was a more popular single in the UK, having been re-released after usage on an advert

ah, ok then.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe it should say 'Recommended by the telly:"

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:35 (nineteen years ago) link

gillian welch, a mere #68? *weeps*

Sean M (Sean M), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

what were your nominations sean?

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

"Drop" is far and away the best track on 'Point', and one of the best tracks of the 21st century.

My comments were heavily edited (a bit much so there, Steve, I've seen bigger on this thread than what I ended up with up there), but it was necessary as I went into a shamanic trance after Steve asked me to comment and eneded up with a fucking essay. But Drop was very well delved into and I still really like it. Point is still 3rd best Cornelius rec for me and 4th if I count CM, but it has some great moments still and I may put the original review on my blog soon.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:06 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry dude, feel free to post your comments in full tho. i will probably include the lot on the proposed microsite

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't actually recall, jed. was a bit embarassed by them (lotsa radiohead singles, i think), so didn't save. i remember that okkervil river was #1, gillian was top five, and 50 cent was on there somewhere.

Sean M (Sean M), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:15 (nineteen years ago) link

hey stevem was i the guy who voted big $ rich number one? i think i was

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:22 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry dude, feel free to post your comments in full tho. i will probably include the lot on the proposed microsite

Like I said, it was necessary and anyway, I said you could. Better the microsite than here (space and all), unless the microsite turns out to be a flight of fancy.

fantasma comes out on top. its more varied, like nick said, and comes off a little like odelay in places, if that appeals to you at all.

I still enjoy Odelay, but, uh, no.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

fair enough

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Odelay = earthly goofy paranoid stoner pastiche
Fantasma = completely extraterrestrial look at Earth pop culture

nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Odelay was always closer to the still more extraterrestrial (Japan-only) 69/96.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Out of curiosity, how many points does the #1 album have?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

NO Spoilers!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

I predict the number one album has beats of some sort.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:58 (nineteen years ago) link

that's not a spoiler, it's a teaser.

comme personne (common_person), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I bet it has beats that "sound as if they are coated in vaseline."

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Sassy!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I totally would've voted Voodoo as my #1.
I should've voted.
I'm such a twat.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 19 August 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

oi! oi! oi! oi!

cºzen (Cozen), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

man so far this is kinda lame

hector (hector), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sorta amused that there's all this complaint about the results so far as if:

* the fact that some like things others do not is somehow indicative of the collapse of civilization

* we have seen the totality of the results yet

As it is, what's going to happen when the final album is announced and it JUST SO HAPPENS that there's both love and hate for it? The sky, oddly enough, will continue to be blue.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

"Ned" spelled backwards is "deN," as he is a deN of wisdom.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

* the fact that some like things others do not is somehow indicative of the collapse of civilization

Music nerds in being excessively passionate about near-meaningless lists SHOCKAH! It's like watching sports, Ned, you cheer when your favourites win and are violently outraged when the ppl you hate score a point.

(there's a bit more to it than that, too, in that if certain areas of the musical spectrum get ignored here and others get lauded, ppl with certain tastes might justifiably be a bit saddened by this, only cuz it means that there's less of a chance of their faves getting discussed on the forum in general. Tho of course as far as that goes the poll's only telling us what we should already know, and whining won't do much good, and besides only a portion of ppl voted.) But yeah, mainly it's the geek thing.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:07 (nineteen years ago) link

It's like watching sports, Ned, you cheer when your favourites win and are violently outraged when the ppl you hate score a point.

Oh, quite obviously! But given some of the subtexts and paper tigers swirling around this thread (and elsewhere), the whole thing seems to me potentially (not *definitively," of course) pointlessly polarized. It isn't as simple as Ye Olde Yawnsome Pseudo 'Rockism vs Popism' Split -- at least it better not be, for my sanity's sake -- but sometimes there seem to be these undercurrents that want to rise up and foist life into that.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sorta amused that there's all this complaint about the results so far

You must be new around here.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

*bows*

I'm still sorta amused.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:14 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 64

Points: 264
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MF DOOM & MADLIB PRESENT...
Title: MADVILLAINY
Label: PIAS
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/madvillain.jpg

Comments: The Madvillain project found an uncanny chemistry between the schitzo pastiche style of Madlib's production and the smoked-out ease of MF Doom's flows, a pairing whose music is full of amazing contradiction - futuristic and rustic, dark and vibrant, a piece equal parts cartoonish fantasy and gripping realism. nickalicious

Recommended tracks: Figaro, Fancy Clown, All Caps

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I like that cover more than I feel I should.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh my God. TWO albums I voted for make the list!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 63

Points: 264
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: SUFJAN STEVENS
Title: GREETINGS FROM MICHIGAN...
Label: Rough Trade
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/greetingsfrommichigan.jpg

Comments: A pretty accessible record; nearly everyone who hears it will take a liking to at least three or four songs simply based on the beautiful vocal melodies. Don't listen to Pfork: it's no political statement, as much as they want it to be. It's a record of love for one's birthplace and a record lamenting it's decline. But it's not impersonal, which is the wonderful thing about the record. Sufjan doesn't treat the state as a _state_, he treats it like a deteriorating family member. A project of love if I've ever heard one. Gentry Boeckel

Recommended tracks: For the Widows in paradise, For the Fatherless in Ypsilanti; Detroit, Lift Up Your Weary Head

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah, that sounds nice.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

it is, rather.

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:57 (nineteen years ago) link

john lawrence wouldn't have been banging his head, he was already gone. how come infinity chimps didn't make the list. i wonder if that is as awful as i suspect. maybe he just yearns deeply for the success that his pals deserve to find them already. patio was crap. is that why no one loves them?

keith m (keithmcl), Friday, 20 August 2004 02:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I just saw Sufjan live this evening. Great show.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought the Sufjan album was really dreary and lacking hooks to be honest. Sorry.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Much like my failed fishing trip to Lake Michigan, strangely enough.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 20 August 2004 07:27 (nineteen years ago) link

chuckle

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 20 August 2004 08:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Bugger - I meant Richard James, not John Lawrence. Told you I was in a rush.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 09:35 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 62

Points: 265
No. of votes: 15
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: SONIC YOUTH
Title: MURRAY STREET
Label: Geffen
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/murraystreet.jpg

Comments: ...every time I listen to it I enjoy it more. and that's after initially thinking, oh, sonic youth, chime chime chime, drone drone drone etc. listening more and enjoying more isn't unusual for me with sonic youth...o'rouke's production is nice. and I like his bass playing, at least what I often assume is his. some sonic youth albums, the production feels too flat and dead to me - makes it harder to appreciate the sounds of the guitars. here even the fairly boring guitar parts are more interesting to me because of the production.
...every time I listen to it I love it more. it's my favorite record of the year. it makes me feel stable and rested, and at times it makes me jump around or cry or shiver or smile or swagger or have minor transcendental experiences. Josh

Recommended tracks: Rain On Tin, Plastic Sun

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 12:17 (nineteen years ago) link

that's a superb cover.

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 21 August 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm surprised it wasnt higher

Michael B, Saturday, 21 August 2004 12:28 (nineteen years ago) link

agreed about the cover art. i can't believe i've never seen it...

tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 21 August 2004 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 61

Points: 265
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LIGHTNING BOLT
Title: WONDERFUL RAINBOW
Label: Load
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/wonderfulrainbow.jpg

Comments: The best part about Wonderful Rainbow is that it takes all of the best parts of Lightning Bolt's sound and magnifies them. The songs are, one the whole, a lot catchier than those on Ride The Skies. The production is heavier and emphasizes Gibson's ability to throw down monster riffs. The changes are all tight, showcasing the Bolt's prog side. Combined with the playful and goofy packaging, this is much closer to a funhouse for kids with ADD than it is the soundtrack to the apocolypse (the territory being mined by 90% of "noise" bands today). Ian Johnson

Recommended tracks: On Fire, Two Towers, Duel In The Deep

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 60

Points: 266
No. of votes: 16
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE LIARS
Title: THEY THREW US ALL IN A TRENCH AND STUCK A MONUMENT ON TOP
Label: Blast First
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/theythrewusallinatrench.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

Recommended tracks: Mr Your On Fire Mr

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Ooh that Sonic Youth cover is lovely, you're right.

Also I had no idea MF Doom had actually made a Dr Doom mask.

All good bracing stuff this, I'm sure.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Saturday, 21 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

My predictions for the top 20:

20. Fennesz - Endless summer
19. NERD - In search of
18. Interpol - turn on the bright lights
17. Radiohead - Kid A
16. Richard X - X factor volume 1
15. Boards of Canada - Geoggaddi
14. White Stripes - Elephant
13. Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash
12. PJ Harvey - Stories from the city
11. Radiohead - Amnesiac
10. Kanye West - College dropout
9. Wilco - YHF
8. Fiery Furnaces - Gallowsbird bark
7. Missy Elliot - Miss E...
6. Daft Punk - Discovery
5. Jay Z - The Blueprint
4. Streets- OPM
3. Belle and Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe waitress
2. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner
1. Streets - A grand don't come for free

Radiohead, Jaxx and Streets suffering from split voting.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Saturday, 21 August 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 59

Points: 270
No. of votes: 11
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE RZA & VARIOUS ARTISTS
Title: GHOST DOG: WAY OF THE SAMURAI (OST)
Label: Epic
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/ghostdog.gif

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

Recommended tracks: Strange Eyes, Walking Through The Darkness, Fast Shadow

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 58

Points: 276
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: ROYKSOPP
Title: MELODY AM
Label: Wall of Sound
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/melodyam.jpg

Some albums attract criticism precisely because of how inoffensive they are. Melody AM blends solid if unremarkable beats with pleasant strings and digital quarks for a very modern romance with one eye on the future and the other half closed (let's hope the wind hasn't changed for their forthcoming follow up) as twilight turns to darkness. The funk and disco leans tend to be overlooked but they are there (the closing washed out loops of Poor Leno, the prog-stomp of Royksoppp's Night Out arguably standing up to classic soul interludes like Marvin Gaye's T Plays It Cool or a cinematic Schifrin sweep). Like Air's Moon Safari before it, the soundtrack of choice for hipsters with graphic art tomes littering their coffee tables, saturation taking effect as track after track was used in trailing all kinds of TV programmes. All in all a surprisingly high showing, but it suggests the popularity and often sublime beauty of this album will endure.

Recommended tracks: So Easy, Eple, Royksopp's Night Out

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 57

Points: 279
No. of votes: 14
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: THE BETA BAND
Title: HOT SHOTS II
Label: Regal
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/hotshots2.jpg

Comments: The Beta Band were always pretty depressed. If the first album saw their manic obsessive side getting very out of hand, and this year's blanded-out Heros To Zeroes sounded like it was on anti-depressants, then Hot Shots II is their most sucessful balance of profound melancholy with a desire to turn it into something redemptive.

It sounds like a series of intensely lonely love songs sung from the
one-bunk cabin of a rickety spaceship. R'n'b producer C-Swing captures
the music's cosmic reach with a delicate layer of electronic gloss
that transforms a simple folksong like Gone into something celestial
and vast. The more mind-bending tracks (the star-spangled Al Sharp,
the rumbling Life and the bug-eyed kitchen sink dancehall Broke)
become more gloriously futuristic than we had any right to expect from
a guitar band in 2001. Oh yes, and it's all very, very pretty.

Of course, this adventurous, sonically joyful music belies the fact
that most of the songs are about misery, loss and confusion. The Beta
Band had seen something about sadness and they made a record as
gorgeous as this. I love them for it. Peter Brown

Recommended tracks: Al Sharp, Life, Broke

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 56

Points: 280
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: ANDREW WK
Title: I GET WET
Label: Mercury
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/igetwet.jpg

Comments: Sincerity redefined as something you can turn up to 11. Tom Ewing

Recommended tracks: Party Hard, She Is Beautiful, I Get Wet

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

love 'Melody A.M.' - the extra mixes on the American bonus disc are great - especially the Ernest St. Laurent Moonfish mix of "Remind Me" and the *amazing* video for the single mix. My favorite tracks are "Eple" and "In Space".

Is there a thread where we talk about why many of us (myself included), probably owing to our bourgeois discomfort about being bourgeois, talk about why we need to qualify and rationalize listening to records that might be considered "the soundtrack of choice for hipsters with graphic art tomes littering their coffee tables"?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 55

Points: 286
No. of votes: 11
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MCLUSKY
Title: MCLUSKY DO DALLAS
Label: Too Pure
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/mcluskydodallas.jpg

Comments: Mclusky Do Dallas is for me the best mix of melodies, hooks, and insanity from this decade so far. It's just crazy, jumping around the room fun. Even the song titles are best. There's something about the Strokes, the way that all the instruments are in metronome-perfect rhythm and Julian's voice is scrawled all over them, that gets me everytime. It's some kinda weird, inside out, reverse emotion through coolness effect.Maciej Kasperowicz

Recommended tracks: Day of the Deadringers, Lightsabre Cocksucking Blues, Alan Is A Cowboy Killer

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

i love melody a.m., too. it wasn't on my list because i thought it would be a shoe-in. l like seeing royksopp and the beta band next to each other on this list.

tricky disco (disco stu), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I say no way on Fiery Furnaces or White Stripes, Billy. Here's what I came up with. And no Radiohead in the top five? Impossible.

20. Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun
19. Primal Scream - XTRMNTR
18. M83 - Dead Cities...
17. Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters
16. Missy Elliot - Miss E...So Addictive
15. Mountain Goats - All Hail West Texas
14. Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash
13. Belle & Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress
12. Radiohead - Amnesiac
11. Fennesz - Endless Summer
10. Junior Boys - Last Exit
9. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
8. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come for Free
7. Jay-Z - The Blueprint
6. Basement Jaxx - Rooty
5. Avalanches - Since I Left You
4. The Streets - Original Pirate Material
3. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in Da Corner
2. Radiohead - Kid A
1. Daft Punk - Discovery

yeah, that looks about right. I guess we'll see.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 54

Points: 289
No. of votes: 14
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE NEW PORNOGRAPHERS
Title: MASS ROMANTIC
Label: Matador
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/massromantic.jpg

Comments: I bought this because of Neko Case and stuck around because of Carl Newman. I'm not sure they'll ever do anything better than "The Slow Descent Into Alcoholism", which is constantly about to fall apart as it goes along but somehow never does, and sometimes I'll find myself singing "salvation holdout central" to myself for no reason at all. And the guitars! The piano! All over this album! When emo doesn't suck and therefore is not called emo, it's called whatever the hell this is. Powerpopsupergroupindie? Doesn't matter. I heard this and finally came to love Canada..Gear!

Recommended tracks: Mass Romantic, Letter From An Occupant, Jackie

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 53

Points: 293
No. of votes: 9
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LIFTER PULLER
Title: FIESTAS AND FIASCOS
Label: French Kiss
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/fiestasfiascos.jpg

Comments: There is a deeper understanding of the universe that comes from having heard this album hundreds of times. Lifter Puller fans keep it cooped up inside, unable to express it\'s jaw-dropping rockitude more articulately than the thing itself, waiting for opportunities like this list to spread the gospel. Go! Listen! Be one with the nightlife and you will understand.Sonny A

Recommended tracks: Lonely In A Limousine, Lake Street Is For Lovers, Space Humping $19.99

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Mclusky yay! Those are my comments for Mclusky Do Dallas combined fused with my comments for "Hard to Explain" though, lest yall think that I've found yet another band to compare the Strokes to.

(x-post)

Lifter Puller! 2 albums from my list in a row! Exclamation points!

Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Saturday, 21 August 2004 16:19 (nineteen years ago) link

haha, sorry about lumping the Strokes comments in there - consider that a spoiler i guess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 52

Points: 305
No. of votes: 14
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: TED LEO & THE PHARMACISTS
Title: HEARTS OF OAK
Label: Lookout
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/heartsofoak.jpg

Comments: Hearts Of Oak is wonderful. The reason why I prefer it over stuff like the Pernice Brothers is it's danceable, energetic, enthusiastic, full-bodied pop-rock backing up thoughtful, witty lyrics whose playfulness makes up for any pretentiousness. Ok, evidently some people are bugged by the fact that the guy uses his higher register so much, but I haven't heard "indie-rock" that grooves like this in a long, long time. If ever..Anthony Miccio

Recommended tracks: Where Have All The Rude Boys Gone?, The Ballad Of The Sin Eater, I'm A Ghost

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 16:29 (nineteen years ago) link

Anthony's comments taken from Ted Leo and The Pharmacists Hearts of Oak

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 16:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I had no idea that that record was released was on Lookout.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Saturday, 21 August 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Re: Gorky's - How I Long..

Your description has totally opened up this album for me. It took me ages to get into simply because of the lack of weird Welshiness but taken out of context it's probably one of their best - I can't stop listening to it now!

dog latin (dog latin), Saturday, 21 August 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Err wow - that's brilliant. Thank you. I didn't really say anything!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 21 August 2004 18:49 (nineteen years ago) link

i was under the impression that royksopp was universally loathed here, and rightly so, but i was wrong.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i was under the impression that royksopp was universally loathed here, and rightly so

because of how inoffensive it is you mean?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The low positioning of Hot Shots II and I Get Wet have convinced me that ILM is dead to me now.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Saturday, 21 August 2004 22:09 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah, coffee table music.

keith m (keithmcl), Saturday, 21 August 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

those damn coffee tables!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 22:37 (nineteen years ago) link

this list is REALLY confusing. (hot shots was almost my number one.)

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Are the Beta Band really any good, then? I just thought they were some rubbish thing.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:23 (nineteen years ago) link

there'll be another bandwagon along for you any minute, i'm sure.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Miaow!

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

they were pretty good.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:25 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm surprised how much people like Hot Shots 2 (not that i dislike it but still)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I have never heard any Beta Band. It was a kind of serious question.

(I am a bit confused by this bandwagon thing - I always think of myself as far too slow on the uptake to catch any bandwagons)

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

You should pick up The Three EPs, the rest is alright too.

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

That one's a good getting-to-know-them album.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Looking back at the nominations, really my only actual worthwhile complaint is that, while they had like four tracks put up, there were NO Outkast album noms. This made me sad in my heart.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I did a bit of ILM searching and found this:

(is this the place to say thst I have always had my yes-flame pre-doused, BB-wise, by their TRANSCENDENTALLY RUBBISH NAME)

-- mark s (mar...), August 19th, 2001

Which is spot on.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Also this:

i called hot shots ii my favorite album of 2001, but now i'm not wondering if i overrated it. it's still a fine piece of work. and like time, i also had a bit of beta narcolepsy, yet know it back to front. something afoot there. the self-titled record is one of the great acts of band wilfull-ness ever. (even greater because it - didnt- sink their "career.")

one of those bands where i think the next one will be even better...closer to the "real" beta band. and that's a fine thing indeed.

-- jess (dubplatestyl...), February 12th, 2002.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah it's also "fuck you Cusack, I'm not buying that goddamn CD".

Gear! (Gear!), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

that lifter puller must easily have received the most pts/vote so far - only nine ppl picked it and it's this high?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:37 (nineteen years ago) link

remarkably it was FOUR people's second chice (40pts)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:43 (nineteen years ago) link

haha sorry N. i don't know what i means either. no harm no foul, okay?

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:45 (nineteen years ago) link

the demon drink induces self-parody.

jess (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link

cf. bob pollard

cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 21 August 2004 23:58 (nineteen years ago) link

No prob, jess. I guess we all get a little sensitive at times like this. Come on Stevem - make it to half way at least tonight. You must have some more shit to get out of the way.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Looking back at the nominations, really my only actual worthwhile complaint is that, while they had like four tracks put up, there were NO Outkast album noms. This made me sad in my heart.

Well, you know, I was actually gonna nominate "Speakerboxx/The Love Below", but then I was like, naah, surely Nickalicious will take care of that one, he knows no one else will.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe you should break this thread off at 50 stevem, its a long time load k thx.

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, I haven't actually played that record since the Outkast Wars. I think if I tried to now I wouldn't be able to enjoy it cos I'd just be expecting an ILMer to crash into the room from out of nowhere and trash my stereo.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Jed, you don't need to get the whole page loaded - in your settings page just ask it to only show you the last 50 posts in a thread or whatever. (don't worry - this gets overridden if you have more than that unread, and you can always click 'show all messages' if you want anyway)

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:39 (nineteen years ago) link

thankyou!!!!

i always wondered how people were posting 2-3 times before i had even reloaded the page. For shame!

jed_ (jed), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Don't worry - I think a lot of people don't realise. That Settings page is a bit of a labyrinth. Anyway, back to the albums.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:44 (nineteen years ago) link

i have writers block even tho the next one is a huge favourite. it is ridiculous how ILM's archives are just full of people NOT actually saying much about actual albums and tracks!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:50 (nineteen years ago) link

it is ridiculous how ILM's archives are just full of people NOT actually saying much about actual albums and tracks!

no shit, OTM

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 22 August 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

ILM WILL NOT BE REDUCED TO BEING A CD BUYING GUIDE!!!!!!

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I can disc you almost every beta band/king biscuit/lone pigeon (even), that you will hate, if you like, nick.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 01:23 (nineteen years ago) link

can someone please link to the infamous "Outkast Wars" thread (or threads)?
I missed this completely and I want to view the train wreck.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 22 August 2004 04:06 (nineteen years ago) link

search under the term "corny indie" and "Outkast"

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 22 August 2004 04:10 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 51

Points: 311
No. of votes: 15
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: FELIX DA HOUSECAT
Title: KITTENZ AND THEE GLITZ
Label: City Rockers
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/kittenzandtheeglitz.jpg

i hadnt kept tabs on what had been up to for a while and when 'Kittenz And Thee Glitz' came out i found it something of a revelation, that this guy had seemingly made a record that wore a broader range of influences on its sleeve than anything before it from the interloping spheres of house and techno. as soon as i heard 'Silver Screen Shower Scene' i felt like it was heralding something and its message seemed to be 'turn around and walk backwards' fixating on the past but still moving forward. It comprises elements of punk (What Does It Feel Like?), disco (Glitz Rock), techno (Harlot and the Detroit stylings of Analog City) and soul (Pray For A Star) amonst other things in a way I had not heard before. I think it's ambition surpasses it's realisation but what it suggests and the ideas floating around within it are for me the stuff of real dance music love.

Recommended tracks: Silver Screen Shower Scene, Pray For A Star, Happy Hour

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 11:16 (nineteen years ago) link

That's well-written. I've almost bought it several times, but the damn thing too frequently clocks in at over twenty dollars. Too hot to handle.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey - holy akasha! I've been trying to get in touch with you re. the square table but get bounceback, can you email freakytrigger at gmail dot com? Thanks!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Felix Da Housecat - KITTENZ AND THEE GLITZ was a June 2001 release. It got a UK release first, then was released the following year in the US.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Sunday, 22 August 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Another error in counting puts this at #58 so everything above 'Ghost Dog' OST moves up one place...


No. 58

Points: 275
No. of votes: 18
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: AALIYAH
Title: AALIYAH
Label: Virgin America
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/aaliyah.jpg

Comments: n/a (anyone?)

Recommended tracks: Try Again, We Need A Resolution, It's Whatever

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

in theory i love that album but since her death i have listened to it straight through maybe twice so i guess i don't, the best part is the ridiculous ott thundersturm und drang number in the middle!! (the worst is the missy song obv)

artiste (artiste), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Can someone explain one more time why "Try Again" is so great, or should I just dig through the archives. (Is "Try Again" even on this album? I don't see it listed as such when I look online, but maybe it is a US/UK release difference.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:50 (nineteen years ago) link

its not great but it is good advice and timbaland isn't too annoying on it!! (hook = squiggly acid bassline)

(no its not on the album i think it came out the year before)

artiste (artiste), Sunday, 22 August 2004 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 49

Points: 321
No. of votes: 15
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LIFE WITHOUT BUILDINGS
Title: ANY OTHER CITY
Label: Tugboat
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/anyothercity.jpg

Comments: Any Other City has made a deep impression on me, deeper than anything since I was a teenager. I almost wish I was seriously depressed again, so that I could use this record to pull me out of it. Mitch Granat

Recommended tracks: Let's Get Out, The Leanover, Sorrow

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Try Again: brilliant chorus, brilliant intro, brilliant middle-eight brilliant squelchy bassline, brilliant off-kilter beat.

Wooden (Wooden), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:07 (nineteen years ago) link

The Aaliyah discography is confusing as hell. Another album called 'Aaliyah' or just alternate cover? Reviewer comments on Amazon (yeh maybe I should get a more reliable source) mention 'Try Again' being at the end but that did seem odd. I was confused by what appear to be three different 'Best Ofs' as well.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Try Again is stuck on the end of the UK version. I was going to give this album a point or two but I am only real passionate about a quarter of it maybe (although all is very decent at worst)

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i sometimes wonder what would a second life without buildings album have sounded like.

keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

so does ally cook.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Steve, can I just say that every time I think of your Goldfrapp review, I get images of Alison phoning up Will sometime in late 2002 and going, "Will, we've got to start work on the next album rightaway!" and he's like, "Well, alright then, but I bloody hope you've got a change of direction and some bloody fantastic ideas." And she'd be like "Hell yeah! You see, I just had the most amazing...mmmm...most amazing...mmmmm...most amazing wank..."

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:21 (nineteen years ago) link

you guys need to get out more.

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:23 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 48

Points: 326
No. of votes: 21
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LADYTRON
Title: LIGHT AND MAGIC
Label: Telstar
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/lightandmagic.jpg

Comments: It's sharper and perhaps more varied and even experimental than 604, but not entirely at the expense of the pop hooks. Naturally some tracks are stronger than others but the most impressive is perhaps the tactics and techniques the gang employ throughout, several tracks featuring what's becoming a trademark penetrating blast of synth noise, blinded by the lights indeed (Seventeen, Nuhorizons, The Reason Why and so on...). On both the vocal and lyrical side Helen and Mira seem to improve and gain confidence too.

Recommended tracks: Flicking Your Switch, Seventeen, Blue Jeans

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

man i am struggling with these comments, oh well

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:42 (nineteen years ago) link

hey steve without revealing what's going to be posted yet, do you need any comments on stuff i voted for? because if so i will send some tonight.

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

you guys need to get out more.

I'm in Ghana, doofusWho said it was a good thing?

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

mailed you jess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 47

Points: 327
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: LUOMO
Title: VOCALCITY
Label: Forced Tracks
Year: 2000

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Comments: the vocal science (not the 2step kind) is astounding. on Vocalcity he takes what sound like normal-enough house a cappella soundbites and flits and filters them through the mix so they impact the way you hear them on a club system; it's the closest I've ever heard a record come to the effect of hearing that kind of live DJ set. and the words are contrary: they double back on themselves, there's an uncertainty at the heart of them and the music both that seems to question the physical pleasure that the music'n'textures provide. that sense of doubt is subtle but all-pervasive--it's a lot of why I keep comparing it to Metal Box and There's a Riot Goin' On and Maxinquaye. M Matos

Recommended tracks: Synkro, Right Wing, Tessio

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I bought The Present Lover last week based on an old post I happened upon from MATOS and I must say he's OTMFM

Gear! (Gear!), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

mailed you back dude

jess (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 46

Points: 335
No. of votes: 20
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: BUBBA SPARXXX
Title: DELIVERANCE
Label: Interscope
Year: 2002

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Comments: In which the best known of Timbaland's roster of underrated proteges hits back against the haters, the shamers and those who'd rather forget he ever existed. The essence of the album is Bubba's on-record character, more roundly developed and emotionally invested in than the previous record, with music and beats to match from Tim (with a little bit of Organized Noize to garnish). Importantly, Bubba's way with a rhyme and a microphone carry equal weight with Tim's suprising yet totally sensible bluegrass funk, country crunk, chase scene torch songs and ever excellent ass-shakers (Tim's diminished presence on the second half prevents this from being 2003's
perfect hip hop album, but when on point, he's ever the hard act to follow - how the hell is 'Warrant' so confidently funky, mysterious and addictive when it's got barely no beats to speak of?). He's got a convincingly guilty conscience on 'She Tried', acts the good time party boy fool on 'Hootenanny' and the ultra-catchy top 10 single that never was, 'Comin' Round' (fiddles! synths! squealing tyres!), and he is straight up convincing about the New South signifier. I believe in Bubba when he's evoking a hard past that may or may not have been on 'Nowhere', because he's mastered the art of convincing soul-bearing on record. And when 'Nowhere', with it's last line of 'If I'm nowhere/let that nowhere/be nowhere near a worry' and the equally underrated Kiley Dean leading a lovely chorus of 'Cry Me A River' (what's done is done, eh, Bubba?), concludes its 5 mins plus of pure symphonic hip hop beauty, Bubba tells us there's nothing he can't Overcome and I hope he's right. Sooner or later, he deserves to have his Deliverance. Barima

Recommended tracks: Comin' Round, Nowhere, Warrant

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope the server doesn't mind me fixing all stevem's image posting cock ups. Somehow it spoils it when the photo isn't with the write up.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:27 (nineteen years ago) link

yes thanks for that. you can also change the scores if you like. Please!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

So that Radiohead doesn't win?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:31 (nineteen years ago) link

*sobs*

Porkpie (porkpie), Sunday, 22 August 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 45

Points: 337
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: RICHARD X
Title: ...PRESENTS HIS X-FACTOR VOLUME 1
Label: EMI
Year: 2003

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Oh Richard, you came and you gave without taking, and I did not send you away. Well alright you did take - a hell of a lot of hits from the 80s. He loves them as if that was not painfully obvious. And anyone who thinks it's done with a cynical sneer just has wrong ears. Richard clearly enjoys his puppeteer and curatorial role here, not that Liberty X needed his help in turning their fortunes around. Nor Javine. The Sugababes? Maybe, yet they all shine brighter here than on their own records, and that's the power of X. The great moments are here in abundance. First he somehow manages to make the idea of covering 'Being Nobody' STILL interesting (and these title jokes just never get tired), then there's the fabulous curtain drop for Spandau Ballet's 'Chant No. 1' on 'Rock Jacket', Kelis (well she's been everywhere else, the bankable whore), a good solid reworking of 'You Used To Hold Me', Deborah Strickland-Evans, 'Drums!', Jarvis AND Hope, and an exit theme to rival anything off 'Music Has The Right To Children' for sheer melancholic beauty, all suggesting the man always had a plan that extended beyond the irresistable mash-ups of 'I Wanna Dance With Numbers' and 'Being Scrubbed'. It's an album that fits perfectly with the times as people revive ideas from 20 years ago across the board, having perhaps not quite been explored and developed enough the first time - but at the top of the agenda remains the directive to keep it poptastic right through to the end.

Recommended tracks: Being Nobody, Lemon Lime, You'd Better Let Me Love You

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:10 (nineteen years ago) link

not that Liberty X needed his help in turning their fortunes around. Nor Javine.

Sarcasm?

Oh, and please take my surname off my comments.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:18 (nineteen years ago) link

No it wasn't sarcasm because 'Just A Little' and 'The Finest' were big hits before the album dropped. Sorry about the surname.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not pissed, but I just never thought of it as something to throw on here.

Anyway, 2 of my top 5 records come in together - thought they'd be higher, but this makes it all more interesting for a while. The comments about Lib X and Javine were in reference to the relative lack of commercial clout they have now, tho' I hear Javine's big in Japan.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Before I go to bed, I also wanted to say that I'm glad 'Lemon/Lime' is also someone elese's fave.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Life Without Buildings have really grown in popularity since they split, haven't they? What with the climate as it is today, if they were still around they could be quite big, or at least have had a top 40 single.

And Lemon/Lime is as nothing next to Finest Dreams, surely...

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I must have seen then five times.

RJG (RJG), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:31 (nineteen years ago) link

for some reason, liking that richard x album (beyond the singles) feels like WORK.

m. (mitchlnw), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:50 (nineteen years ago) link

i find it much easier to love than hate myself.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Sunday, 22 August 2004 21:52 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 44

Points: 337
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR
Title: LIFT YOUR SKINNY FISTS LIKE ANTENNAS TO HEAVEN
Label: Kranky
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/liftyourskinnyfists.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

Recommended tracks: Sleep

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:49 (nineteen years ago) link

A lot of these covers are making me want to buy vinyl again. Not the Godspeed You Black Emperor one though.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i like that cover!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 08:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I like it in theory, but I don't instinctively find it beautiful, like the Luomo one. Also, it's presumably got a Godspeed You Black Emperor record inside it.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not too sure I understand the imagery on Levez Vos Skinny Fists. People with ventiloquists dummies in masks chopping off other people's hands? wtf?

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Bah, my copy of Vocalcity has a different, less pretty cover.

Ricardo (RickyT), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:09 (nineteen years ago) link

the LYSFLATH cover reminds me of the kind of illustration you'd find segregating numbered segments in a Fighting Fantasy book.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 43

Points: 352
No. of votes: 18
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LOW
Title: THINGS WE LOST IN THE FIRE
Label: Tugboat
Year: 2001

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Comments: n/a (anybody?)

Recommended tracks: Sunflower, July, In Metal

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 10:46 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 42

Points: 322
No. of votes: 13
No. of #1 votes: 4

Artist: THE CLIENTELE
Title: SUBURBAN LIGHT
Label: Pointy
Year: 2000

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Comments: I love the Clientele's songs because they're like
looking at faded photos or grainy film stock, emerging
into the daylight following a matinee, trying to peer
through the fog or the rain, or walking into dusk
after a day inside artificial light. I love the
Clientele's songs because they're evocative and
drenched in reverb, they mark slight shifts in mood,
in time, in atmosphere, capturing moments of
transition or hope, lamenting loss, longing for that
which is just out of grasp, and cherishing flutters of
the heart. I love the Clientele's songs because they
ignore life's grand gestures; instead, they collect
ephemera and extract something unique, nourishing, and
lovely out of the everyday. Most importantly to me, I
love the Clientele's songs because they soundtracked
my falling in love. As I sat atop a Chicago roof
watching night get the better of day they coaxed me
into getting the nerve to phone long distance to a
woman I'd met only once, they held my hand on the
airplane when she wasn't there to do it, they were
among my first gifts to her, and they've made us both
smile, weep, and sigh ever since. Scott Pl

Recommended: Saturday, We Could Walk Together, Rain

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 41

Points: 364
No. of votes: 16
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: CANNIBAL OX
Title: THE COLD VEIN
Label: Def Jux
Year: 2001

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Comments: Back in the summer of 2002 when I was temporarily insane (and imbibing a large quantity of gin every day), I disparaged Can Ox by asking why I needed this stuff when I already owned Organized Konfusion albums. This was pretty churlish of me (I ended up voting The Cold Vein number four here, chart watchers), but not entirely off the mark. Like OK, Can Ox fall between the twin towers of CIA encrypted Afro-mystical hoo hah and THAT REAL-ASS GRIMY-ASS STREET-ASS SHIT, which never really results in ducats and generally means you're too "underground" (in the Fat Beats sense) for the Juicy J fans and too "street" for the Edan novelty-hop guys. The only other
rap album to place in my top 10 was The Blueprint (I'm as surprised as you are...but I'm also working with a list of nominees that doesn't always reflect my personal top ten); my pal Nick once said that it's hard not to see The Cold Vein as the flipside of the Blueprint but actually they're complimentary opposites: Cold Vein is grainy and mottled with system dirt while the Blueprint is sleek, burnished poise, but both are triumphs of carefully constructed production. I've warmed to El-P's work for Company Flow over the years, but much of it still sounds thin and ugly and grating for no real reason other than being thin and ugly and grating. On The Cold Vein he wasn't any prettier but he fattened things up, riddled it with a thousand niggling details, unveiled a flair for melody. It sounds like he's using very expensive equipment (though in reality probably a fairly limited kit) to make something crude and lumbering and cold. (Though no matter how steely things get, most of it is positively WARM compared to the stuff on the radio these days.) (And I still chuckle at the "Mexican Radio" reference.) The reason Vast Aire outshines Vordul is not because he's "more mainstream" but because he's more DIRECT. He'll go off on flights of comic book geekery, but when he wants to hit home he's not afraid to use the blunt tools (or just be blunt: "my mother said 'you sucked my pussy when you came out'", wtf??), and like Jigga he shares a fondness for ripe Del Monte corn and mawkish sentiment that'd have even Bill Mauldin blushing. Still, as anyone who heard Vast's solo album knows, removed from the crucible of Can Ox (and El-P's production), he's not produced anything with half the power of the Cold Vein. Jess/Strongo

Recommended tracks: Iron Galaxy, Pidgeon, Ridiculoid

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 11:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Aaaah, my #1 and my nomination come in side by side just outside the top 40. Hmmm... Nice Can Ox words Strongo.

Can't help noticing that though The Clientele got a modest 13 votes, it got the greatest number (four) of #1 votes so far. Cheers to you other three.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:29 (nineteen years ago) link

A pox on the clientele. they put me to sleep. in a club.

danh (danh), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link

haha well at least my super emo comments on the junior boys have a prescedent set.

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

sneaky fellow pforker chris dare put in a copy of cold vein in when he sent me throbbing pouch and so today i finally decided to give it a fair try in headphones during a long walk through the ancient crumbling poor back neighbourhoods of athens to the tiny building at which i pay my phone bill and with the wind blowing around my coat i finally realized what i was missing all along. this is a record about magic! it is about kicking at the knobby outgrowth of a leafless oak and finding an underground world and exploring for weeks but then when you come back home it's only been an afternoon. so i found a gnarled stick wand and gave a special consideration to the wise stone pelican and slowly walked home.--Some ILM packpacker.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:14 (nineteen years ago) link

Darn those packpackers...

It's weird how the Bubba has passed without comment thus far. My thoughts on it mirror a lot of Jess' too, which gives me cause to either smile or worry...

R.I.M.A., Monday, 23 August 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

haha well at least my super emo comments on the junior boys have a prescedent set.

haha, yeah my anniversary is tomorrow, so I was all sentimental.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

*feeling all*

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Stop feeling us.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't help it, Ned - it's the emo in me.

scott pl. (scott pl.), Monday, 23 August 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, I'm shocked that GYBE are up here, I had no idea there were 18 other people around here who liked them so much.

I voted for that and for Low, I'll try to write something.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link

well scott yr happy emo can be balanced out by my wah wah i'm going to die alone emo

jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 23 August 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

GYBE -- Levez Vos Skinny Fists ...

The debut was good. But it wasn't, um ... big enough. It was gloomy, cinematic, and pretentious (duh). One year later, they returned with 641 new members and an ep that sounded like the end of the world. Certainly the only piece of pre-millenium tension worth listening to. Gotta go with the biblical script when you need to make your apocolyptic point.

Then came this album, which has it all. Tantalising, extended intros blasting into screeching strings playing "Amazing Grace" soundalikes, careening into caustic drones and twinkly ambience. And that's just the first track!

That's their pre-9/11 album. Afterward, the focus turned toward proving that Lockheed Martin are destroying the world. Listening to crazy old men ranting about the golden days of Coney Island is somehow far more harmless, and considerably more poignant.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 16:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Low -- Things We Lost in the Fire

Low were comfortably entrenched in their slow-and-quiet blueprint, and could have continued to duplicate it indefinitely without much protest from a majority of their fan base. They dip into whimisical pop ("Sunflower") and grim, sinister dirges ("Whitetail") but those styles turned out far better on the follow-up album, "Trust". But here, the less they do, the finer they sound. "Lazer Beam" is little more than four repeated twangs of a guitar and Mimi Rogers' haunting vocals. The other 90% of the song is blackened empty space. Overtop of drawling, pleading vocals, "Closer"'s lurching rhythms surge forward again and again, barely moving forward despite the greatest possible effort. And the sweet harmonies of album closer "In Metal" linger on the brain long after the CD stops spinning. A fine cap to an album that achieves maximalism through minimalism so very well.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Monday, 23 August 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

There are three Ls in a row, three Gs in a row and three Ss in a row.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

NEEEERRRRRRRRRDDDDDD

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:38 (nineteen years ago) link

It just jumped out at me!

Alba (Alba), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:41 (nineteen years ago) link

also The Real New Fall LP is right next to The Pretty Toney Album wtf

Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

10 albums per day here on out, stevem?

peter smith (plsmith), Monday, 23 August 2004 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

One year later, they returned with 641 new members and an ep that sounded like the end of the world.

This is funny because it's true.

GYBE makes me wonder if they were on anyone's top 15 and hated album -- simultaneously.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 23 August 2004 20:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't want sound all sceptical and stuff, but "Ghost Dog" the film hit the cinemas in 1999, so is the soundtrack really a naughties release? I remember seeing it in the shops quite soon after the film came out. Also, there are apparently two versions of the record: one with the "various artists" and one with just RZA's beats. I wonder which one of those two people were actually voting for.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I checked IMDb and apparently "Ghost Dog" (the film) was released in the US and the UK later than in Finland, making it a year 2000 film. Weird. Anyway, it's quite possible then that the soundtrack too was released only in 2000.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Films are quite often tested out in small countries first, I think.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 07:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Could be, or maybe it has something to do with Jarmusch's special relationship with Finland. It was a 1999 release in France too, though.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe Jarmusch just feels that Europeans appreciate his flicks more than Americans do.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:04 (nineteen years ago) link

They know kung fu.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:08 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 40

Points: 365
No. of votes: 21
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: CAT POWER
Title: YOU ARE FREE
Label: Matador
Year: 2003

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Comments: It's the most confident Cat Power record thus far-- there's less frightened wailing and more straight-ahead, self-assured, fleshed-out compositions than on Moon Pix. The production is aces, too; it somehow sounds slick and sparse at the same time. "Accessable" has never been a word I'd associate with Chan, but in a better world, this could be a major-label debut. Joe Folladori

Recommended tracks: He War, Good Woman, Maybe Not

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:43 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 39

Points: 381
No. of votes: 18
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: THE SCISSOR SISTERS
Title: THE SCISSOR SISTERS
Label: Polydor
Year: 2004

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Comments: And now on to the thing that really annoys me here. People that have decided the Scissors are all style over substance. Would you like me to scan my arse in so you can kiss it? Would you? Well I?m not going to, cos it?s my dad?s scanner and he?d get a bit narked. Yes, they tour incessantly (like Hundred Reasons and Feeder used to do, yeah), and they do get on the television rather a lot. And, as the boy Swales said, ?I couldn?t bear living with them.? However, the boy Swales did also say that he rather liked their tunes, AND THAT IS THE FUCKING THING - the songs are brilliant (mostly). And it ain?t about being fucking fashionable, god no. Take ?Laura?, wherein Jake Shears attempts to get himself some tail by ringing all the women he knows. And he fails. Christ, most of the stuff on the album is about being lonely (?Mary?), loveless (?Lovers In The Backseat?), crap with girls/blokes (?Better Luck Next Time? ? curiously titled ?Better Luck? on the album sleeve), in the closet (?Take Your Mama?), getting fucked over by the music industry (?Tits On The Radio?), finding the big city isn?t all it?s cracked up to be (?Return To Oz?)? Let?s contrast that shit with Franz Ferdinand, who write songs about attempting to pull girls, one song about attempting to pull a man (EDGE!), and just generally being a cool witty debonair Scots gadabout with perfect hair whilst only being able to make the one noise with your guitar + ironic reference to Terry Wogan. Do they cop this ?style over substance? bullshit? No, they get called the future of music.

Well, fuck that. ?Laura? fucking bosses things. The piano riff is, yes, familiar. And the ground-organ riff, yeah, probably. But that?s cos they?re good, it creaks and cranks its way along the line, then Mr Shears drawls his way in: ?Low-ra? can?t you give me some time? I got to give myself, one more chance? to be the man that I know I am?? And in the corr-roose, we get the theatrics: ?C?M AWWN! C?M AWWWN! WHERRRE IS YAW LUV? DON?T YOU GIVE ME YAW LUV? WON?T YOU GIVE ME YAW LUV?? It is fantastic, this huge overblown three-and-a-bit minute pop-opera in one act (with pause). He sings like Elton John? And? Yeah, it sounds like the seventies. What the hell is your problem? Much lesser bands get away with much worse. This is how they sound, that is how they dress, this shit is who they are, and you can moan about how fucking over-marketed and over-hyped and over-dressed the people are, and you?re ignoring that the Scissor Sisters are a bloody fantastic pop group with heartfelt lyrics (not in the irritating way), warm tunes, and an album that appeals right across the spectrum, instantly warm and accessible, not this aloof emperor?s-new-clothes fashionista shit everyone has the Scissors pegged down as being. These are some of the best songs this decade has seen, and the people, they write about the haircuts. Fuck the people. William Swygart

Recommended tracks: Laura (Simone), Tits On The Radio, Music Is The Victim, It Can't Come Quickly Enough

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i had to post the whole of that because it's one of my favourite Pop Eye entries this year.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 08:59 (nineteen years ago) link

The Scissor Sisters singer sounds a lot more like Robbie Williams than Elton John, although the songs themselves sound like 1975 Elton John B-sides.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:05 (nineteen years ago) link

of the very worst kind, jesus they stink like a mackerel left in a boiler cupboard in Addis Ababa, if it wasn't for Radiohead existing they'd have had my hate votes.

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Those last two albums have both made me think "shit, were they really on the list, why didn't they make my top 15?" - I'm glad they finished so highly without my vote.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link

What kind of music is Scissor Sisters? Aren't they just Fischerspooner but more popular?

dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 09:53 (nineteen years ago) link

They are sort of this year's New Radicals.

Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 10:01 (nineteen years ago) link

only less radical

Porkpie (porkpie), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 10:02 (nineteen years ago) link

get a room you two

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 10:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Presumably whoever called Franz Ferdinand 'the future of music' has been locked in a cupboard at the NME since well before 1979.

baboon2004 (baboon2004), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 38

Points: 394
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: FENNESZ
Title: ENDLESS SUMMER
Label: Mego
Year: 2001

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Comments: n/a (anybody?)

Recommended tracks: Endless Summer, Caecilia, Shisheido

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

hey steve can you do me a favor and NOT post my junior boys comments. i've had a change of heart.

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:14 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 37

Points: 398
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: PRIMAL SCREAM
Title: XTRMNTR
Label: Creation
Year: 2000

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Comments: XTRMNTR is angry as hell and noisy as a plane taking off. Sometimes it's a techno album, sometimes it's a guitar album, sometimes it's a hip-hop album with swearing and screaming on top. Sometimes it's a New Order album (with Barney Sumner on guitar for authenticity), sometimes it's an MBV album (with Kevin Shields on guitar for authenticity), and sometimes it's a David Holmes soundtrack album (with movie samples and er, David Holmes twiddling the knobs for authenticity). What more could you possibly want in an album??? Barry Bruner

Recommended tracks: Swastika Eyes, MBV Arkestra, Shoot Speed Kill Light

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:18 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 36

Points: 398
No. of votes: 24
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: LAMBCHOP
Title: NIXON
Label: City Slang
Year: 2000

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Comments: Lush, funny, aching... Play it while walking round through the city at night. C'mon progeny! Stewart Smith

Recommended tracks: Up With People, Nashville Parent, The Distance From Her To There

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

i dont even know this place anymore

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Primal Scream! WTF?

Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Um, 'scuse me, where exactly is XTRMNTR a hip-hop album?

If Bobby G's A Rapper So Am I, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Somehow, I managed not to be around to actually vote for this list. And now, seeing that it's shaping up to be the current state of indie, I'm really regretting that. Would anyone be surprised to see this list published at Pitchfork? So far, give or take 5 records, I wouldn't be.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Seriously, who the hell thinks XTRMNTR is the best album released in the last five years? Apart from Bbby Gllsp, obv.

Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:33 (nineteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR i must admit would make a fine EP

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:35 (nineteen years ago) link

ILM hates its own list. Big surprise.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I like it a lot, it would be in my own top 40 - the hip hop would be Bobby's atrocious rapping on 'Pills', heh

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link

PRML SCRM, FFS, you've got to be kidding!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Ricardo, these people:
http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/primalscream/xtrmntr/

17th best album @ Metacritic: http://www.metacritic.com/music/bests/

When that XTRMNTR was released certain critics stated that it was the first great album of the 21st century

[even though it blatantly stole sounds from 70s/ 80s/ 90s: it was a case of spot the cool influences, theoughout the album]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link

is there anything befitting the term 'audio apocalypse' more than 'MBV Arkestra'?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

even though it blatantly stole sounds from 70s/ 80s/ 90s

how unusual!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

What about Fennesz or Lambchop? Are they alienating folks right now too or what?

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:44 (nineteen years ago) link

yes, My Bloody Valentine: You Made Me Realize

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link

fennesz was on my list (i think)

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

"xtrmntr" is a PIECE OF SHIT.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

The piont i am making there was that it was a blatant hybrid sounds album: it was like a history sound journey through the band's record collection.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

"record collection rock"

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Xtrmntr was my number 3 choice and I don't have any regrets - not sure how that's any more corny indie than Low, Godspeed or Lambchop... I still think 'Shoot Speed Kill Light' is flawless.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link

You may have answered this question already Steve, but, when it's all done, are you going to post up what everyone voted for?

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link

for godssakes steve post another one before there's a mutiny!

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Let's hope it's not Yankee Hotel Foxtrot next eh kids

Captain Bligh, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:05 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 35

Points: 401
No. of votes: 21
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BROADCAST
Title: HA HA SOUND
Label: Warp
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/hahasound.jpg

Comments: Strangely managing to be at times the most accessible thing they've done and at other times the most advanced, Broadcast's world is one of spinning wheels, frost-covered lake shores, branch lines in Summer haze, distant church towers and Vaudevillian charm. And here they suck you right in through concentrated, refined gumption and melodic interplay. The songs lurch into effect like rickety contraptions (yet built to last) but with operators like these they work to optimum standard, and all for Lonesome Science Girl to swoon over with a reserved but still heart-tugging lucidity.

Recommended tracks: Colour Me In, Valerie, Lunch Hour Pops

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Fuck the people.

i'm imagining mylo's "drop the pressure" with fuckthepeoplefuckthepeoplefuckthepeople instead of motherfuckermotherfuckermotherfucker

where the hell are the techno/electronic nominations? is weiss.mix going to actually place in the top 35? or villalobos? or the soft pink truth? does ilm talk about electronic stuff more than they actually listen to it? or is the ilm personality a purist at heart believing that dance music is a singles genre?

xpost. yay broadcast!

tricky disco (disco stu), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

re:

dleone
Would anyone be surprised to see this list published at Pitchfork? So far, give or take 5 records, I wouldn't be.

Get, Ryan Pitchfork to organize a Pitchfork Staff Top 100 Albums of the first 5 years of the 00s - early next year.

Also will Ned be doing his own half decade summary to follow on from his infamous and much loved Ned's 90s feature? or will we have to wait another 5 years ?

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:07 (nineteen years ago) link

That's a bit more like it, steve!

(I'm actually amazed at how much rancour I still feel for prml scrm in general and xtrmntr in particular)

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't think i've ever read anything good about primal scream on here! jess otm tho, xtrmntr has a handful of great tunes.

only 1 of my top 10 has appeared so far (beta band, far too low obv) so i'm still confidently expecting a top 5 of daft punk/jaxx/dizzee/avalanches/streets in some order, yes, no, yes, hmm?

pete b. (pete b.), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 34

Points: 403
No. of votes: 18
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: FUGAZI
Title: THE ARGUMENT
Label: Discord
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/theargument.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

Recommended tracks: Argument, Epic Problem, Kill

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

The Top 10 better be full of stone-cold gems after this lot.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 33

Points: 436
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: LE TIGRE
Title: LE TIGRE
Label: Wiija
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/letigre.jpg

Comments: I don't care what the rest of you think, this album means something to me. It has nothing to do with feminism or gay rights, just a simple feeling of muddling through, of contradiction, of trying even though you may well fail.

Deceptacon is about dancing, alliteration and having your sounds stolen by some cheeky scamp; My My Metrocard celebrates the freedom of solo travel through an urban environment (no, it's still got nothing to do with some Mayor of New York!); Les and Ray is all about 'Less' rather than 'Lez', and liking people who are friendly to you.

Kathleen Hanna may be so, like, whatever, ya know (dude)? But Le Tigre are great, and this debut connects with me, it makes me feel. I know I'm not the only one. Meirion Lewis


Recommended tracks: Deceptacon, Hot Topic, My My Metrocard, Les And Ray

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link

arg, missing words there

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:53 (nineteen years ago) link

The Top 10 better be full of stone-cold gems after this lot.

didn't you nominate Nixon?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

that le tigre record came out in 1999 but i voted for it anyway

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Matt, it's not THAT bad, surely? My indie love might be showing, but both Fennesz and Broadcast would possibly have made my own list, and I like the Fugazi and Le Tigre records. I'm just staggered by PRML SCRM.

Ricardo (RickyT), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 12:58 (nineteen years ago) link

oh come on, 29 people can't be wrong...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link

alright, 19

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link

they're not bad records but MY GOD who are you people

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:05 (nineteen years ago) link

i feel like a fifth year freshman

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha oh god jess.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Neurotic S should dig about in the stats and find out what the top 10s are for people who first posted before a certain date and people who first posted after.

MORE WORK FOR S, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

The Le Tigre album came out in October '99, so I believe it just makes the deadline.

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I forget sometimes that British people like Lambchop.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Artist: GODSPEED YOU! BLACK EMPEROR
Tom's might do

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 32

Points: 437
No. of votes: 26
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE
Title: JUSTIFIED
Label: Jive
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/justified.jpg

Comments: Riding on the subconscious remembrance of Thriller's 20th anniversary, the start of Usher's year off, a topless appearance on the cover of Rolling Stone, *NSYNC (WE WERE ON A BREAK!) and all things hot and re-emerging in fashion and music, JT became the second "credible former boyband solo artist" of the new millenium (Jordan Knight got there first, but sadly ran out of steam). Style icons? Michael Jackson, Usher and Carrot Top. Music icons? Same, plus a bit of Usher and Corey Feldman. Vocal icon? Same again,
plus Pharrell Williams. Make no mistake, the dude's a grab-bag. What warmed me to JT was that he'd become a global Michael impersonator on a greater scale than Usher, simply by making his xeroxes and debts more obvious. The 'Like I Love You' debut, with it's terrible JT solo dance at the end is a geeky kid's fantasy homage to 'Billie Jean' on Motown 25, (the video is like 3 old MJ vids in one with Pharrell replacing the dorky poplocker from 'Beat It') and I ate it up because someone needed to remind old MJ why and how he used to be so fucking cool (even though JT hasn't a hope of scaling those heights ever). Musically, there's more influences to disinterr, but the lows (for they are there) come when JT's vocal deficiencies and poor appropriations are exposed (the cheesy ballads, 'Nothin' Else', which is 'I Just Called To Say I Love You' with none of the needed improvements and the borderline testicle-cuisinart match of his infamous falsetto). And there's at least one phone-in from Timbaland (and from the Neptunes, though they're not disasters), but then again, he has 2 tracks that easily overshadow half the disc. And it's these highs that make the whole almost 'justified', if you will. There's 'Senorita', a study in charm vs contrivance (which wins? Up to you), there's 'Oh No (What You Got)', one of Tim's best disposable dance-pop numbers, as club-worthy as you like, and 'Rock Your Body', the most obvious Off The Wall homage (and well done it is) and one to molest Janet to. Alongside 'Rock Your Body' at the top of the list are the very MJ melodic symphonic pop sweetness of 'Last Night', which extends the Neptunes' Quincy Jones credit further and with almost perfect results (it can also do the hustle), and the two lead singles. 'Like I Love You' was one of 2002's best debut singles, is the best minimalist Neptunes track ever with a spot-on meld of pop oddness and pop sensibilities , commands any dancefloor it's on like fine disco magic, and none of the appeal's vanished over time ("Drums", for God's sake). And 'Cry Me A River', well. It was routinely picked up on as the disc's best. We all know why (the song, not the video) and I'm not gonna bore with why I love it so, it's probably the same for anyone else who does. The best compliment you can probably pay Justified was the old early one - why this wasn't Invincible (or at least half of it) is MJ's fault and MJ's alone. Barima

Recommended tracks: Like I Love You, Cry Me A River, Last Night

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The 30s is a weird, weird place.

Steve, call me Lastminuto Savington.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Drums!

Drums!, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm glad I wasn't the only person who put the first Le Tigre album as their first choice - it was that or Supreme Clientele but I figure the latter will get in the top 20 without my help. I figure.

"Who are you people?" - I dunno, my first post was a fair while ago but I've not posted that often before, so well done neurotic s for capturing my imagination.

I really like that Justin and Le Tigre are back to back.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link


No. 31

Points: 440
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 5

Artist: THE FIERY FURNACES
Title: GALLOWSBIRD BARK
Label: Rough Trade
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/gallowsbirdbark.jpg

Comments: n/a (anybody?)

Recommended tracks: Crystal Clear, Tropical Iceland, Inca Rag/Name Game

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

5 number 1 votes for #31? the top 20 is going to be really intense...

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I still don't think I've heard any Justin Timberlake. I must live under a rock.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

I bet you that that Fiery Furnaces album will be greatest number of #1 votes per total votes.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:41 (nineteen years ago) link

surely lifter puller?

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Is there another Lifter Puller album on the way?

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Primal Scream hahahahah ... as for the "hip-hop" comment, omg, allow me some poetic liscence people ... obv. I gave XTRMNTR the #1 vote, so rekognize, hataz!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

How can there be no comments about Endless Summer? There's got to be something we can dig up ...

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:51 (nineteen years ago) link

trawling the archives is the worst part of this whole thing, i did try, it really slows things down though.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

youre done for the day, right steve?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

and i mean - i could write a little something about endless summer...

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I did nominate Nixon but Gallowsbird's Bark is by far my favourite album to appear here so far.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 30

Points: 465
No. of votes: 19
No. of #1 votes: 5

Artist: SLEATER-KINNEY
Title: ONE BEAT
Label: Kill Rock Stars
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/onebeat.jpg

Comments: One Beat was the first Sleater-Kinney album that really grabbed me by the cajones right off the bat, and it led me back to their other albums, which I gained new appreciation for. I still think this one is their best and it easily repels all boarders.Gear!

Recommended tracks: One Beat, Sympathy, O2, Step Aside

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link

holy god

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

its not the beach(boys)-y album cover or even the buried quasi-melodies that make endless summer a warm album. theres a sense to christian fennesz's music of real struggle and work, culminating in these great noisy albums that maintain some sort of humanity. nothing is over-controlled, nothing is lifeless. sometimes, experimental electronic music lacks a heartbeat. sometimes, this is clearly the intention. not so, here. endless summer is alive, beyond all of the hackneyed praise for its vaunted beach concept.

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

That's a really ugly cover, like a sprouting experiment gone wrong.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

cheers pete!

i think that's all for today

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

willing commentators, gmail me asap , the next lot is tough

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

lemme know if you want something, i will channel some vh1 bs for ya.

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Good one Pete ... surprisingly, I couldn't find hardly anything in the archives either.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

mailed you steve, re. comments

jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

LPs I voted for that have made it thus far: Emma Bunton, Ghostface, Cornelius, Ladytron, Cann Ox and, yes, XTRMNTR.

Jeff W (zebedee), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Fugazi - The Argument
the PFM review mentions The Kinks and EL-fucking-O, which makes me feel warm and fuzzy: Fugazi get even more tuneful. pisses off the hardcore maybe, but when Guy sings "i'm on a mission to never agree / here comes the argument" damned if I don't try my hardest to forget what's been learned me about separation of music and state

comme personne (common_person), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't get me ten bucks then

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, is that in response to what I wrote?

comme personne (common_person), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

that made no sense to me

artdamages (artdamages), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't get me ten bucks then

I can't believe you were as close as you were, honestly.

XTRMNTR is one of the best albums of the decade no question. The real atrocity here is fucking Lambchop landing higher.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Bill and Gear made a bet about the placing of that Fugazi album on another thread.

XTRMNTR : the silent majority speaks up! :)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

If only Bobby Gillespie would join the silent majority.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry, that $10 bet was over Sleater-Kinney ... not Fugazi.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

If only Bobby Gillespie would join the silent majority.

Yes!!

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:03 (nineteen years ago) link

i wonder for how many seconds of Xtrmntr is Bobby audible

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

i think that's my next project sorted

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Jesus, you're a sucker for punishment.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:08 (nineteen years ago) link

It was a one-sided bet, though. Gear doesn't owe me anything.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm incredibly cheap which goes without saying.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think Jess lika da S-K

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link

'Nothin' Else' is not a lowpoint on Justified.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 24 August 2004 18:44 (nineteen years ago) link

XTRMNTR is great. The real crime here is an early Fiery Furnaces record over 'Justified'. I mean, is there a street team on here or something? I haven't even heard of that record (though I will check it out). And Sleater Kinney? Are you serious? We're people just filling out their ballots with records they'd heard of??

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

people thought it was the '90s one cos you'd think that'd come first

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think I could listen to even half of XTRMNTR without putting on something else. Overblown, awful mess.

Bimble (bimble), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:18 (nineteen years ago) link

S-K was my #1 pick and I'm not about to not choose it for reasons that exist in other peoples' heads.

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I would've picked 'Keep Your Dreams' as a personal fave off XTRMNTR...it's their best 'ballad', tho Bobby's not particularly interesting on it

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 20:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Such fun ... I am so glad I nominated XTRMNTR!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:00 (nineteen years ago) link

*tries to judge what Spencer's actual level of surprise is*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

For the Sleater Kinney record? I *am* surprised. I'd guess that it's a decent enough record (perhaps even very good), but I don't recall very much ILM discussion about it (apart from seeing them as ancillary to Greil Marcus threads).

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer might have a point -- Tom's big Best of 2002 poll, I think I was one of two people who voted big for One Beat (though I might be thinking of a different album).

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I was thinking that about Fugazi's Argument as well. The original ILM thread about it in 2001 has about 10 posts. (maybe 3 of which actually praise the album.) (fwiw fugazi was one of my favorite bands in the mid 90's.) (and yes, obv ILM 2001 =/= nu-nu-post-indie guilt-ILM '04.

bnw (bnw), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:30 (nineteen years ago) link

One Beat was regarded as pretty weak in some circles, I suppose, considering how every time I mention that I voted for it (be on the noize board or elsewhere) I get someone saying "zuh?! corny indie etc etc!"

Gear! (Gear!), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 21:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Link to the 2002 poll? And any others like it?

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:42 (nineteen years ago) link

The ILX Readers Poll 2002 - RECORDS OF THE YEAR

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:46 (nineteen years ago) link


The ILX Readers Poll 2002 - RECORDS OF THE YEAR

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

great minds think alike

DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 24 August 2004 23:48 (nineteen years ago) link

So who was the other person who voted for SK there?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:24 (nineteen years ago) link

I like how that 2002 poll shatters the "ILM is more indie now than it used to be" myth.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 01:47 (nineteen years ago) link

ilm = fork?

1. album lists inevitably more pitchfork-y / r-word than singles lists, nobody listens to albums anymore anyways
2. fabled "good old days" of ilm like 01 basically, indie by end of 02
3. pitchfork and similar (marginally) more pro-pop over last 5 years so token presence of say justin album would be unshocking on a fork list, not so a few years ago
4. corny ass lurkers be reading the fork

artiste (artiste), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:12 (nineteen years ago) link

You saying crabs read PFM?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link

'Textstar' is good, but I wonder when's the last time any ILXor listened to it!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:44 (nineteen years ago) link

As a relative newcomer to ILM who likes everything from blue note jazz to experimental to 70's folk to indie to prog rock to metal - the only thing I can acscertain about the popularity of indie rock on ILM is that the genre is becoming more popular on the whole. And I'm trying to resist attributing this to the dreaded p/fork, ie, hoping there's case for any popularity being otherwise based. Like i dunno, the bands, the music?

If you hate indie and you live on ILM then more power to you because you can bitch and moan and feel above it all. Incidentally I hate indie when the fucking performances are out of tune and amateurism is the order of the day. I would doubt, though, that the indie bands/artists that make the ILM top 50 or top 10 or whatever reside in this bracket. With the excpetion of Sleater Kinney.

*ducks*

piers (piers), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I love much indie and always have (except for some of the 90s when I could care less), I just think many ILM types recoil at whatever they think indie represents, tries to represent, or is thought to be represented by some indie fans. My aversion to some indie is I think similar to yours - I feel that many purveyors practice a self-imposed sonic conservatism borne out of a stultifying worship of authenticity and presence.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 02:59 (nineteen years ago) link

from comments on the all time ilm poll--
i really don't like the implications of saying 'too white'. more like 'too indie rock'. but yeah, where the hell is the rap? and not paul's overrated beck-sounding boutique either.

-- ethan (epadget...), May 19th, 2001.

Yeah Ethan, too 'indie rock' is better. (...and if only Beck made some approaching "P's B." he would be tolerable.)

anyway another plus: Weezer (might be irritating-as-fuck but a bit of fresh air as an utterly non-canon choice.) no Leftfield.

erm...where's Destiny's Child ;)

-- Omar (o.muno...), May 19th, 2001.

the thing i find most interesting about this list is that, given the amount of canon-bashing and the prevelance of sniffy attitudes towards magazine polls, how completely it conforms to the standard rock canon. take out the singles (Britney etc) and it could have been lifted straight from Q or Mojo.

-- Wyndham Earl (wyndham_ear...), September 21st, 2002.

Have 20. I would vote so differently now. I think the final list would be way less indie now.

-- sundar subramanian (sundar_subramanian200...), March 10th, 2003. (sundar)

i think it would be even more indie now

-- gareth (garet...), March 10th, 2003. (gareth)

keith m (keithmcl), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:11 (nineteen years ago) link

ILM is busted!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer - I hear you about how ILM might see indie fans as uneducated 19 yr olds or poseurs or hipsters or worse, but that precludes normal music fans, and is ultimately another hopeless generalisation. I struggle with it too. In Sydney you go to an "important" indie show and you do often get the whole cooler than school crowd, but I try my best to ignore it and enjoy the band - if they play professionally that is ;)

I imagine the same thing happens in London, New York, San Francisco, Barcelona - wherever.

piers (piers), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 03:33 (nineteen years ago) link

i just erased my bitchy comment about how everybody was bitching.
yay, me.
Listen, I know we're doing a CDR of the singles; anybody want to take the incredibly difficult step of pulling, say, the top five tracks off the top 100 albums for a five disc set of the best albums?
Or should I just go buy all this?

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 04:53 (nineteen years ago) link

I like how that 2002 poll shatters the "ILM is more indie now than it used to be" myth.

Oh, the rot had firmly set in by 2002...

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 06:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, the rot had firmly set in by 2002...

ILM 2001
http://www.sergioleone.net/mt-2.jpg

ILM 2002
http://www.tumbaabierta.com/cripta/img/fulci_zombie.jpg

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 07:21 (nineteen years ago) link

RE: One Beat

For me it's only about the fourth best SK album, which is probably why relatively little discussion at the time, but it's the only one eligible to be voted for, hence the high number of votes.

Fugazi'a Argument is a similar thing, it is one of their best albums, but not vastly devaint or better than what went before, so not a lot of talk.

I think people are confusing 'good music' with 'good music to talk about'.

(It should be clear for example, that terrible music is often great to talk about)

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:14 (nineteen years ago) link

(Hence the amount of discussion about The Smiths, U2, Dave Matthews Band etc.)

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:14 (nineteen years ago) link

;-)

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:14 (nineteen years ago) link

'deviant'

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:30 (nineteen years ago) link

After getting drunk with Tico Tico last night I can offer no further speculation on this list.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link

bah

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 08:59 (nineteen years ago) link


No. 29

Points: 466
No. of votes: 32 (!)
No. of #1 votes: 0 (!)

Artist: THE YEAH YEAH YEAHS
Title: FEVER TO TELL
Label: Polydor
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/fevertotell.jpg

Highest number of votes so far, but no top scores for Karen and co.


Comments: The praise heaped on "maps" is deserving. its a good song, and a believable lyric, too. beyond that, though, and when i can push past my paranoia that not having a bass AND moving quickly to a major label automatically means HOLLOW, i am delighted with the myriad pleasures to be had on fever to tell. "date with the night", "man", "tick", and especially "pin" and "y control" are convincing and finished, even while retaining the broken-pink-and black-plastic sound that the YYY's seemed interested in pursuing. Pete S

Recommended tracks: Maps, Pin, Y Control

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:11 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 28

Points: 469
No. of votes: 17
No. of #1 votes: 5

Artist: BROKEN SOCIAL SCENE
Title: YOU FORGOT IT IN PEOPLE
Label: Mercury
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/youforgotitinpeople.jpg


Comments: Amazing song 'kc accidental'. On first listening, this Broken Spcial Scene song, just these fucking aggravated drums drumming with pure melodic guitar noise.. sensational song and album. Not the U2 of indie rock as some would say but a fresh sounding crafted pop surprise from noise appreciators, cascading brilliantly at once with energetic rhthyms, aching meoldy and exploding guitars. piers

Recommended tracks: Cause=Time, KC Accidental, Stars And Sons, Almost Crimes

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Maps is way over-reated, but YYYs aren't.

mei (mei), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I love maps but strangley it's still the only YYY song I've heard, is anything on the album nearly as good?

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Maps and the two songs following it on the album are stellar, the rest is pretty crappy.

Ricardo (RickyT), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:37 (nineteen years ago) link

hmmm, slsk here I come then

Porkpie (porkpie), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link

'Pin' is great and also it's really short which lately I am considering a huge bonus often with songs.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:39 (nineteen years ago) link

"Date With The Night" is like the most underrated YYYs song, I think it's still my favourite but no one ever talks about it.

The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 09:46 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 27

Points: 479
No. of votes: 20
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE NOTWIST
Title: NEON GOLDEN
Label: City Slang
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/neongolden.jpg


Comments: "Neon Golden" is brilliant, blending (horrible word, sorry) old, acoustic instruments with bleeps and stuff from instruments I can't make out, but hell, it does the job for me. People who liked "Shrink" will love this one, as it is better, the ingredients are now put together in the right proportion (not being English, I have my doubts about that last sentence...) Listen to it, enjoy it! Willem

Recommended tracks: Pilot, Pick Up The Phone, Neon Golden, Off The Rail

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

i really love the notwist album, but this is not the list i had envisioned!

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link

hey...stop...where are you taking me?...who are these men in the white coats?...

jess (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 26

Points: 486
No. of votes: 26
No. of #1 votes: 4

Artist: N.E.R.D.
Title: IN SEARCH OF...
Label: Virgin America
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/insearchof.jpg


Comments: Obviously we\'re all sick of Pharrell\'s falsetto now, but then...

I guess there are reference points for something like Bobby James, but I felt like it was totally unprecedented, so fresh. The whole album really collapses all those soft/hard male/female things both lyrically (dreamy hippy bullshit intertwined around playa fantasy porn/violent scenarios) and sonically. Beautiful record.

(btw I mean the programmed version, not the one with Spymob)
Jamie

Recommended tracks: Lapdance, Bobby James, Provider, Stay Together

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 10:52 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 25

Points: 494
No. of votes: 26
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: GHOSTFACE KILLAH
Title: SUPREME CLIENTELE
Label: Epic
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/supremeclientele.gif


Comments: Judging Ghostface by normal human standards is a mug's game. He's garrulously prolific (there's probably more bootleg b-sides comps than real albums at this point.) He's also generally a law and a world unto himself: hip-hop is the framework on which he hangs his weepy narratives, pop-cult cut-ups, dada delight in the sheer sound of words, the act of forcing breath across the lips. (He's also capable of straightforward reporting and maybe even a hook when he wants to be, proving thankfully that he's not just some
orange rhyming dictionary in a purple suede robe.) Like any new language, at first it all sounds "the same." But immerse yourself, and suddenly it's like the inner workings of "hip-hop" are being laid bare for you: dense internal rhymes, sometimes collapsing or twisting several times over a bar, rock solid beats, and old format soul jewels that still shine like they day they were first loaded into the tomb at the dawn of the 70s. Does it mean anything? Does "Surfin Bird"? Supreme Clientele is so far and away the best Wu solo joint its not even funny. What else are you going to stack against it? Tical? Nigga Please? The only things that come close are Cuban Linx, Liquid Swords, and the first ODB. (Okay the ODB cheapie best-of kills all comers, but I'm trying to be fair here.) What other album would make Jack Kirby and Spike Lee equally happy? Jess

Recommended tracks: Nutmeg, One, Apollo Kids, Malcolm

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:36 (nineteen years ago) link

By which I just meant that it's 'pretty' and 'tuff'.

From the Neptunes productions I'd heard at that point, it was such a surprise to hear Bobby James. It was 'wuh?'.

I thought NERD might place lower due to the godawful 'She wants to move' and general Pharrell overexposure so 26 ain't bad.

Ghostface invoked brilliantly by Jess there, although I actually prefer Ironman. What about all the bootleg mixtapes out there- what's good?

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 24

Points: 513
No. of votes: 27
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: SIGUR ROS
Title: AGAETIS BYRJUN
Label: Fat Cat
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/agaetisbyrjun.jpg


Comments: They're one of my favorite bands, not cause of some trendy shit or whatever...cause their music makes me feel good. It makes me feel like I'm floating on a comet at light-speed through the vacuum of space. It makes me feel like I was having sex and the orgasm decided to continue on indefinitely. It makes me feel in touch with The Universe in ways going to church never did. Nickalicious

Recommended tracks: Svefn-g-englar, Staralfur, Ny Batteri

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Nick's comment from Sigur Ros thread (for random Googlers only)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

wow supreme clientele ranked below sigur ros. case closed y'honor.

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Alright now this is all just getting silly.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

The slow rollout of these results is a thing of beauty. Great things I'd forgotten I voted for leap out and whup my ass just as I start thinking 'Hmmm, maybe the noughties themselves have been underwhelming'

x-post - Eeeek, underwhelming again...

When is #1 scheduled to be unveiled then?

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm looking forward to hearing both 'Supreme Clientele' and 'Agaetis Byrjun' for the first time properly soon lol

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

wow supreme clientele ranked below sigur ros.

Yeah, this is the first time I've felt outraged by anything in these results. Coulda been worse, coulda been the Sigur Ros album that's named after some dumb ass brackets...

Flyboy (Flyboy), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

When is #1 scheduled to be unveiled then?

In about thirty seconds if I have my evil way...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw Sigur Ross while in the last stages of physical and mental collapse at Glasto last year and believe me, they DID NOT HELP (spooky looking guy plays guitar with violin bow against glowering sky shudder). I now associate them entirely with incipient mental illness. I saw The Streets later the same day and now associate them entirely with falling asleep in the rain to be woken up by some burberry capped fool stepping on my face. (Still voted OPM my #2, though.)

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Ros. Sorry.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:20 (nineteen years ago) link

4 people voted NERD as their #1? I'm surprised so many people love that album. I can't put my finger on it but seems more like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs one that many would like, very few would love. It might've been in my top 5 or something, but then I'd only heard like 10 albums on the whole noms list.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Lots of people go on about how the original, unauthorised issue of it, with programmed rather than live beats, is a different propostion to the one you can get now.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link

It wasn't unauthorised. I have no idea why they de-programmed it though.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 12:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I had read that the UK record company went ahead and issued it without getting the OK from America.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 23

Points: 517
No. of votes: 32
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE WHITE STRIPES
Title: ELEPHANT
Label: XL
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/elephant.jpg


Comments: The sound of a band turning its image into a mythology, and its gimmick into an arsenal. Gardner Linn

Recommended tracks: Seven Nation Army, The Hardest Button To Button, Little Acorns, Well It's True That We Love One Another

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

(deprogramming it because that's the way they decided they wanted it to sound)

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I have heard Elephant once or twice. It seems to be really annoying in a way that White Blood Cells wasn't.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh well i'm not sure then. The original (progammed version of it) i have is a French import.

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link

[Hmmm, I am being quoted (Neon Golden), which kinda makes me feel like 'hey!' and ':-)' but then reading further I can't help but thinking: "Surely there must be something better than thát, Steve?"]

willem (willem), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

if there is it would've taken way too long to find - i am on deadline here you know! People will be able to provide better comments when it's all webpaged up tho.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 22

Points: 529
No. of votes: 29
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: EMINEM
Title: THE MARSHALL MATHERS LP
Label: Interscope
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/themarshallmatherslp.jpg


Comments: I think Eminem is some sort of idiot savant, a fool and a fucking genius at the same time, writing the most interesting lyrics since Dylan's prime - you could pen a whole thesis from the one line "I am whatever you say I am," bringing in the way celebrity is constructed, and of course Jesus and Popeye (not an order of preference) and a thousand other things. He's also as good a rhymer as rap has ever produced, with complex and seemingly instinctual internal rhyming and chiming that he delivers beautifully. A colossal talent. (And obviously working with one of the great producers of the last decade-plus helps too.) Martin Skidmore

Recommended tracks: The Real Slim Shady, The Way I Am, Stan, Bitch Please (Part 2)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 21

Points: 529
No. of votes: 29
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE JUNIOR BOYS
Title: LAST EXIT
Label: KIN
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/lastexit.jpg


Comments: Call The Junior Boys blue-eyed garage or swingbeatclash; Last Exit is a tantalizing introduction to the JBeez aesthetic. "High Come Down" is the not-at-all-impossible meeting place between Hall & Oates and Timbaland. "Birthday" rigs up a rainy day 2-step pattern and chills it the most with nuvo wavo romanticism. "Last Exit" bristles with thickets of beats as spiny and spare as those of recent garage, but the bruised fruit vocal hiding within couldn't be less grimy. But it's reductive to call the Junior Boys the alternative to Dizzee/Wiley/et al. They simultaneously invoke a half-dozen other genres (heroin house, synth pop, electro, modern US R&B), and grime's ruffneck soldiers are very much slaves to the vibe of London town. But the Boys seem to have soaked up all the nimble fluency and sheer beauty garage sloughed off escaping the pleasure principle. Like AR Kane in the late 80s, who smeared their post-Mary Chain guitar spuzz over then-current house pianos and hip-hop breaks, the Boys' combo of neutered soulboyisms and jiggy electronics give the impression they could be the start of something new for indie rock. Or the public could settle for another wave of emotionally constipated electroclash crypt robbing. In which case, fuck you all, I'm moving to Neptune. Jess

Recommended tracks: High Come Down, Birthday, Last Exit, Bellona

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Crikey, I thought that would be higher.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm surprised it ranked this high - I'd been anticipating an "only #40?! Fuck you all!" scenario.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

AND THEN THERE WERE XX

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I fully expected it to be at #21.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

It just seemed to me that a lot of people really adored it. Well I suppose 29 people did.

Stevem why is Eminem #22 and JBeez #21 if they got the same points and number of votes, is it a 'listmakers decision is final' thing? ;)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah if anything since 2 people voted Eminem their number one...

jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:27 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm guessing averages of the rankings

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

I think people are confusing 'good music' with 'good music to talk about'.

They might not overlap fully, but the two aren't mutually exclusive either. There's a bit of a tricky relationship there.

bnw (bnw), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:36 (nineteen years ago) link

more problems with Junior Boys vote on account of album and track of same name. However latest recount shows the album to actually have scored 536, keeping it at 21.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Ghostface wuz robbed. maybe if he didn't have 2 albums nominated. I was hoping for top 10 for SC and the Junior Boys.

artdamages (artdamages), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Richard X should really be above GYBE as well - same no. of votes but X Factor got one 45pts score and GYBE got at least one hate vote (meaning it had a higher average of points - as did Eminem which got two hate votes so was deducted 20).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm scared to think how high fight test woulda scored without hate votes

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

even without hate votes it would've been in the same spot

blount did you get my e-mail request for a comment yesterday btw?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i just found it in 'bulk'! my email filters are vigilant motherfuckers!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

and dude one of those requests has noise dudes written all over it

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I wonder if Kraftwerk will be in here? I think not.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i tried james but i think they're just too noise dude for that, heyelp!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm. Fun! Recent votes (JBs, NERD, Broken Social Scene and Prml Scrm) haven't done TOO badly...

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

and dude one of those requests has noise dudes written all over it

Wolf Eyes at #1??

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

Echoes!

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 14:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, only 17 votes for BSS but 5 #1 picks. That's got to be the highest "average" points/vote we've seen thus far.

Coulda been worse, coulda been the Sigur Ros album that's named after some dumb ass brackets...

But that's a far better album!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

My top 8 have now appeared on this list so I have nothing left to root for ... I'll just have to root against R*******d (since it appears they've got three in the top 20).

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be surprised if one of those Radiohead songs were left off the list altogether (like "There There").

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

'Like Spinning Plates' definitely should've

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

I was referring to the three albums, but yeah, the tracks too.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I am honestly wondering if a Radiohead bloc vote was organised.

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

and a daft punk one wasn't?!

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:41 (nineteen years ago) link

If one was actually organised it happened without my knowledge Julio!

Putting it another way, I wonder how many people who voted for one Radiohead album voted for all three? I'm just curious.

(There has always been a big pro-'Head contingent on ILM, I'm not saying their (apparently) high placings are in any way illegitimate!)

Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry Barry, my mind was on tracks, forgot what thread this was!

I voted for 2 of the 3 Radiohead albums.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

the three albums all strike me as consistent enough with each other for someone to vote for all three unless there were enough other albums to their preference. there's another artist with three out of four nominations currently unaccounted for too...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry, sigur ros?

cºzen (Cozen), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

i voted for kid a but not the other two. It's shorter. and with radiohead that's good. also until this little poll i'd forgotten how much i like the songs on that record. especially everything in its right place.

danh (danh), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Yay! That was my nomination. I think all three albums made it
into my top 15, but amnesiac was probably pretty low down.

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

One thing about the Junior Boys album is it's availability. I can't find a retail CD of it out here in the sticks (of Los Angeles), and I've never been able to download proper mp3s (since they released a bunch of loops beforehand). Only through the assistance of a certain "nordic" person was I finally able to listen to it. I love it at this point, but I may have been 'over it' before I even heard it.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer - I just picked up the Junior Boys at Amoeba.

T. Weiss (Timmy), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I only heard it recently, and have wondered whether I would've voted for it if I'd heard it sooner. (At the very least, I think "Birthday" might've gotten a vote.)

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

In France, "In search of" has been released late summer 2001, the sleeve was different and the record was better without that Spymob instrumentation in my opinion, this is still one of my favorite Neptunes productions alongside "Kaleidoscope", that's why I voted it number one.

Sami (Sami), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I voted for all 3 Radiohead albums but wasn't part of any bloc. Like I said, I hadn't even much more than 15 albums on the list, I don't think. There were a few albums on there I'd heard but didn't like that much like Fugazi, Le Tigre (Good God, if this is list-worthy indie for this half-decade I'm glad I haven't heard more), and Shellac. And I really love all those Radiohead albums. I listen to them tons.

(Mind you, if, say, Bill Frisell and Meredith Monk and Oren Ambarchi and Phil Jeck and Derek Bailey or Kid Koala or . . . were on there I might not have voted for so much Rhead. Or if Sean Paul or motherfucking Outkast were on there. Or maybe even the Darkness. Or System of a Down. Or Bjork. Radiohead definitely wouldn't have placed so high. And I do want to check out lots of the rap and dance records I haven't heard.)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer - I just picked up the Junior Boys at Amoeba.

Thanks for the tip - I'm going after work.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

And, just so you know Barry, GYBE was my #2. I thought their debut was a ponderous 4/4 Pink Floyd plod but from the opening brass glories of Fists I knew they were onto something else - just how great it came out to be was a shock though. Channeling Glenn Branca and Fred Frith at moments, Zoviet France at others, various 80s posthc outifts (probably Sonic Youth and Mission of Burma although someone else could probably tell you better than I) at some points, and Floyd (minus the suck)/Rush at other bits, everything connected into perfectly shaped and paced compositions moving through a spectrum of moods.

And, fuck yeah, it rocks when it has to and crushes when it has to (which isn't all the time) - not for any elevator I could imagine.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I was about to say I got it there too. Would it be inaccurate to say JBs are like The Postal Service if TPS didn't do everything terribly wrong?

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:20 (nineteen years ago) link

The Postal Service are catchier, Junior Boys have more soul.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Someone made a Postal Service comparison on a Junior Boys thread, but in a dismissive fashion, i.e., how is this any different from the goddamn Postal Service?

But that's still a good question: I mean, I like both bands, and probably for some similar reasons. Junior Boys have more "mood," though, and the album's more cohesive. Then again, "Such Great Heights" is probably catchier than anything on Last Exit. What exactly does the Postal Service do wrong (other than be liked by indie asshats)?

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Haha, that was an x-post! And "mood" = "soul," I guess.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

The music and the vox were all too obviously recorded in different time zones, it doesn't feel like a whole, it feels like two very separate, boring parts brought together.

Plus the asshattery

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Sundar is wise (and GYBE were my #3).

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:30 (nineteen years ago) link

xpost: Well, they do kind of warn you with the name. Still, it's *way* better than that Sinatra duets album.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:31 (nineteen years ago) link

true on both counts. blech.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Some of what sundar said.

Rockist Scientist away from usual PC, Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

personally I like both ...Infinity and Lift Your Fists..., I haven't heard Yanqui.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i listened to (the programmed( "in search of.." the other day for the first time in maybe a couple years. it's really not all that good (save the deathless "run to the sun" and maybe "lapdance" just for the nostalgia value.). the fact that there's a record by broken social scene on the happier side of the 30s is i think the best ammunition yet for the antipitchforkitizationalists.

m. (mitchlnw), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I listened to that BSS album around the time it came out and forgot it instantly. Maybe it's good and I was having a bad day but probably not.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I really like a couple tracks on that album. One sounds like a leftover from Isn't Anything era MBV (the one with the bassline, I forgot what it's called).

Also, I suspect all ILM anti-pitchforkers will defend their favorite indie as not a part of the problem.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Right, cuz the Beta Band is the solution.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I prefer Metric to BSS actually

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

"Levez Vos Skinny Fists ..." is easily the best GYBE album. In my comments, I was taking the piss out of their other stuff (which I also like) but "Fists" is certainly the one to start with.

Spencer otm ... omg some indie is actually pretty good, oh no how can i live with myself for thinking that ...

(xpost)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Pop-guilt

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

For awhile there I thought "indie guilt" was people making others feel guilty for listening to Slint.

Gear! (Gear!), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, don't get so defensive - you won! Be happy! :)

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 25 August 2004 18:01 (nineteen years ago) link

RS, I wanted to ask you what Fahey's Red Cross was all about. Was it posthumous? I really like The Yellow Princess (from the 60s). Womblife (90s) is cool too. D/k his other stuff.

I don't know if they'd be your thing but I like Yanqui U. X. O. and (obv) List Yr Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 August 2004 04:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Would it be inaccurate to say JBs are like The Postal Service if TPS didn't do everything terribly wrong?

Setting aside the Junior Boys for the moment -- the Postal Service just bug me (in contrast, a band like Joy Electric distinctly UN-bug me, so the fact that they get no attention and haven't for something like ten years while TPS are seen to be something special reminds me how hate is as important as love).

I recall thinking Yawnspeed You Goddamn Chain-Smoking Quebecois Fuckups's second full album did actually have some major keys on it. It was not enough.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 05:24 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 20

Points: 545
No. of votes: 26
No. of #1 votes: 0

Artist: PJ HARVEY
Title: STORIES FROM THE CITY, STORIES FROM THE SEA
Label: Island
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/storiesfromthecity.jpg

Comments: n/a (argh!)

Recommended tracks: Good Fortune, A Place Called Home, You Said Something, We Float

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link

tsk, year 2000 obv.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link

i wonder if the list looks suitably pazz and jop to chuck now

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link

all i could find in the archives was people slagging that album off, oh well...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:27 (nineteen years ago) link

well it's her "crossover" album, y'see

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:28 (nineteen years ago) link

all sounds like indie shite to me, so whadda iknow etc etc

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:29 (nineteen years ago) link

you know THE TRUTH

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I always find that album to be pretty poppy on the whole though - certainly something like 'Good Fortune' is. It's the sound of someone who's previously been all gloomy doing loved-up optimism as best they can. In New York.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Uh Huh Her was my No 1. I think I can assume it won't make it now :(

Stories... (which I didn't vote for): Polly's worst album, but not because it's commercial or poppy or a rip-off of Patti Smith (all these things are responsible for its best moments); only because there is more filler than there normally is on PJ Harvey albums. It's still great, of course: heavily stylised, using the juxtaposition of a familiar sound with glorious, novel emotions (throughout, the overriding mood Polly expresses is surprise - surprise that she's capable of beautiful feelings and good fortune) to superb effect.

Recommended tracks - This Is Love, This Wicked Tongue, Kamikaze

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:39 (nineteen years ago) link

nice one Alex

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:42 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 19

Points: 554
No. of votes: 33
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: THE RAPTURE
Title: ECHOES
Label: Mercury
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/echoes.jpg

Comments: A band forever being judged in terms of trends and influences nevertheless made both the defining single and album of an underground cross-genre that never fully lived up to its potential. The trick the DFA worked with the Rapture was to take a post-punk revivalist outfit and have them play modern updates of revivalist early 80s mutant disco and late 80s bleepy and acid house at the same time. But as an experimental band with all the jamming and instrumentation (both traditional and electronic here) and meandering that goes along with it. Personal mismatched reintepretations rather than wilful genre-mashing. How else do dancefloor retro-workouts like 'Olio' and 'I Need Your Love' work with Luke Jenner's overcommented on Robert Smith vocals when Smith himself sounds massively uncomfortable teamed with Junior Jack? On their dance tracks, Luke is as much the unique house diva as the nervy punkboy, riding over the bleeps and the loved-up warehouse bliss keys and injecting just the right amount of spiky angularity (remember, they're still post-punk). Overall, they take what they want and somehow keep things fresh and almost always livened up like any group of skill should with the DFA as ever-watching overseers. 'House Of Jealous Lovers', 'Olio' and 'I Need Your Love' are perfect dance songs in any year from 1981 onwards, and there's some great choppy, urgent and danceable white funk (Spandau alert!) on 'Killing' (punk r'n'b?), 'Echoes' (PiL*), 'The Coming Of Spring'(Go4*) and 'Heaven', which has the best hands-in-the-air chant since 'So Much Love To Give'. Closest to being weak links would be 'Sister Saviour', which uses the 'More, More, More' intro without any of the flair the better tracks have with their own rips, and is far too dirgey - the key is to balance out the aching and breaking tension in the vocals with either energy or a more stripped down, workable arrangement - the ballads, excepting 'Open Up Your Heart', which does take the stripped down route. Echoes is about love; love of people, love of experience, differences, dancing and music. And if you take it as it is and let it in, you too might feel love. (* Because I need to pretend I've down my homework)
Barima

Recommended tracks: House Of Jealous Lovers, I Need Your Love, Olio, The Coming Of Spring

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 18

Points: 566
No. of votes: 29
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: BOARDS OF CANADA
Title: GEOGADDI
Label: Warp
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/geogaddi.jpg

The thing that always hits me about Geogaddi when I listen now is * depth *. It's one of those records where...I mostly put it on at night, you know? Like, right before I go to bed. So I'm lying there, half-dead to the world, drifting in and out of consciousness. And everything sounds so rich and full, like you could trip into one of the spaces between the beats and fall forever. And then I invariably fall asleep halfway and wake up and it seems like the thing is BOOMING out of the speakers but in reality the stereo is on fairly low (or otherwise someone would be banging on the floor.) It's stadium ambient. "This is BOC in Technicolor," I said in my review back in 2002, where I was ambivalent about the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" lack of progression in the basic sound. But now I hear that as a strength; BOC are a group where a slight tweaking of basic values, filtered through improved production nous, makes every new album the new "best BOC album." Preferring Twoism to this seems like preferring an Apple IIE to an iMac: you're just being willful. Jess

Recommeded tracks: 1969, Julie & Candy, Sunshine Recorder, The Devil Is In The Details

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 10:56 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 17

Points: 573
No. of votes: 32
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: MISSY ELLIOTT
Title: MISS E...SO ADDICTIVE
Label: Elektra
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/missesoaddictive.jpg

So Addictive is the first Missy album I really can love as a whole. The others somehow dind't work for me as a whole. Hard to explain why. Nothing else to add than Classic and i'll second Glitch-hop, it's the fututre of rock 'n roll you know. Omar

Recommeded tracks: Get Ur Freak On, One Minute Man, Lick Shots, Step Off

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Omar's comments from rfd: missy elliott - so addictive

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i dont like that most of the albums i voted for have now placed outside the top 10

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

The others somehow dind't work for me as a whole. Hard to explain why.

Two words: Jesus ballads.

Flyboy (Flyboy), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:12 (nineteen years ago) link

there's probably an interesting comment somwhere regarding how SO Addictive is, along with The Marshall Mathers LP one of the hip hop albums that revels in the 'ecstasy is fucking awesome' theme that hip-hop seemed to, by and large, ignore altogether previously.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:13 (nineteen years ago) link

basically it's timbaland taking a stab at every genre of electronic dance music ever

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 16

Points: 679
No. of votes: 29
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BELLE & SEBASTIAN
Title: DEAR CATASTROPHE WAITRESS
Label: Rough Trade
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/dearcatastrophewaitress.jpg

Indie sucks in 2004, and it’s all about the money. Too much money spent on rent-an-addiction frontmen, vintage tee-shirts, and overly coiffeured bedhead. Belle and Sebastian, on the other hand, consist of a chorister, a fat girl, and some other members who all look like Games Workshop employees. In a time and age where their peers are topping album charts and selling out arenas with The Jam and Stooges vulturisms, B&S take their cues on “Dear Catastrophe Waitress” from Thin Lizzy and Sir Cliff Richard. Whilst the rest of the indiegentsia are sucking from Zane Lowe’s teat, B&S speak with eagerness about how much Radio 2 got behind “Wrapped Up In Books”. Whilst Starsailor and The Vines expected you to care that they’d dug Phil Spector up from his tomb, B&S employed Trevor Horn, who’d just come off the back of getting Russian jailbait popsters to cover The Smiths. The topics of this album include: a homage to Robin Askwith movies interspersed with anti-Thatcher commentary, gay baseball stars, ex-girlfriends preferring their clothes to you, single people should praise God more, drag queens, and “Stay Loose”, which the entire history of popular music down to The Police and Squeeze, and when it hits you realise that that’s all there really is. They have a song called “Roy Walker”. Whatever the future of rock and roll is, you can be sure that Belle and Sebastian sound absolutely nothing like it. Dom Passantino

Recommeded tracks: I'm A Cuckoo, Dear Catastrophe Waitress, Stay Loose, Wrapped Up In Books

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:19 (nineteen years ago) link

You're accelarating steve

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:21 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i really don't like that album, but this Belle and Sebastian, on the other hand, consist of a chorister, a fat girl, and some other members who all look like Games Workshop employees. very much makes me want to.

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link


No. 15

Points: 681
No. of votes: 24
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: BOREDOMS
Title: VISION CREATION NEWSUN
Label: Birdman
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/visioncreationnewsun.jpg

Vision Creation Newsun offers what it's title suggests: it creates a universe of its own, inviting the listener to step inside and enjoy the view on this spaced-out trip along its infinite borders and into its billowing core. Willem

Recommended tracks: 1, 3, 7, 9

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmmm, my number one at number 18 ah well, I surprised myself when I put it right up there, as for Dom's comments on B&S... well, I didn't vote for it as it's my least favourite of all of them, but I think sub-student journalist attacks on the weight and looks of band members are far from helpful here. Dom, you're a tw@t.

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:24 (nineteen years ago) link

They might not be helpful but they're funny - and true

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the subverted compliment Dom pays...actually, who am I kidding?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Fists opens in a major key, Ned. Never knew you were such a fan of major keys!

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 14

Points: 682
No. of votes: 31
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: WILCO
Title: YANKEE HOTEL FOXTROT
Label: WEA
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/yankeehotelfoxtrot.jpg

All right, let's get it out of the way. This album is not a
masterpiece. And it's not nearly as avant-garde as the record-label-got-scared hype would have you believe. But it's still Wilco's best record, because for the first time they managed to break out of the boring Midwestern songs-to-drink-microbrews-to formula, which never once did it for me. (Okay, once: I liked the twangy "Box Full of Letters," from "A.M.") Above all, "Yankee Hotel Foxtrot" knows how to use space and breath, with songs that start all open-skied and lonely and devolve into ramshackle pots-and-pans percussion (courtesy of new drummer Glenn Kotche) and shortwave static. But it's also got great tunes, from the plaintive violin-and-whiskey-tinged "Jesus, Etc." to the jangly, upbeat "Heavy Metal Drummer." It may not be canon-worthy just yet, but I'd say it's a winner. jaymc

Recommended tracks: Jesus Etc., Heavy Metal Drummer, I Am Trying To Break Your Heart, Pot Kettle Black

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:52 (nineteen years ago) link

what do you call it when the terrorists have not only won but are now the current regime?

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:55 (nineteen years ago) link

stop your bitching, 14 is low considering!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:56 (nineteen years ago) link

haha

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

considering what $hite may be above it

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

oh come on: sigur ros over ghostface, wilco over missy, radiohead over girls aloud...i dont want to ever hear anyone on this site bitch about "indie guilt" ever again!!!!

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

considering what steve?

x-post

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:58 (nineteen years ago) link

suddenly it's no longer looking good for 'Once More With Feeling'...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

considering what steve?

considering at one early point, YHF was about 5th

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Jess, if I were you I'd be strapping myself into my chair to prevent injury to self and others

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:00 (nineteen years ago) link

STOP SPOILING IT

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link

no oneida either, it would seem. BOOO...

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not!!!!

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't understand some of these records. It's not that I think they're necessarily bad as such, but at some point I lost touch with the mainstream of indie rock to the extent that I simply cannot engage with eg YHF at all. It's just there, neither negative or positive, a perfect neutral of nothingness, a collection of empty signifiers.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm with Stevem, 14 is a mercy.

I For One Welcome Our New Terrorist Overlords (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:03 (nineteen years ago) link

sundar, re: Fahey. I haven't heard much by him. (The last full length album I had heard was back in the 80's, probably Live in Tazmania and one of his Christmas albums.) I think Red Cross was put together while Fahey was still alive, but he may have died before it came out? I don't remember. Anyway, number one: I very much like the sound he's getting from his guitar. I find the album surprisingly varied. There are keening tracks that sound like they were made in a world where post-punk and industrial happened (without sounding like they are in either of those categories). The first cut is very folky sounding, but the pace is slowed down in a way that opens up so much space in it that it doesn't sound like straight folk music. (Maybe the slow pace fractures the melody, without it actually having to be rearranged.) There is another track that sounds vaguely eastern, not quite this or that, but very nicely done. I like it all.

It hasn't shown up yet on the list, so it must be in the top ten.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Fists opens in a major key, Ned. Never knew you were such a fan of major keys!

I'm a fan of them when the result was something actually different. Which I believe was also your point. ;-)

The more both lists go on the more I openly cackle at all the various cherished assumptions being dashed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link

gotta get some joy in your life somewhere, eh ned?

jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:12 (nineteen years ago) link

All love, baby.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:13 (nineteen years ago) link

It's just there, neither negative or positive, a perfect neutral of nothingness, a collection of empty signifiers.

Don't a lot of people feel this way about their own lives? Hence stuff like this making more 'sense' in that respect? Not that I've even heard this album!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

if i'm being honest with myself, the rapture is possibly my least-liked of all the ilm-fawned-over-and-it-makes-sense-that-i'd-like-it acts. not that this makes a fuck of a difference to anyone else in the universe.

i think track 6 off VCN is my favourite. if i'm remembering which one it is right.

m. (mitchlnw), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

It hasn't shown up yet on the list, so it must be in the top ten.

Ha! Emma Bunton and Junior Senior top late-career snooze-inducer by legend.

(xpost)

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:14 (nineteen years ago) link

'Sister Saviour' is still my favourite track on 'Echoes'

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

but only cos i can holler 'IIIIFFFFFF YA LIKE MAH BOOOODDDDYYY ANNNNND YAH THIIINK AHM SEEEXXXXXYYY...' over it

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 14

Points: 703
No. of votes: 31
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: KANYE WEST
Title: THE COLLEGE DROPOUT
Label: Roc-A-Fella
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/thecollegedropout.jpg

Comments: n/a (seems to have passed people by, heh heh...)

Recommended tracks: Jesus Walks, Through The Wire, We Don't Care, Slow Jamz

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Is that supposed to be 13, or is there a tie for 14?

Jonathan (Jonathan), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link

So... the two albums which I considered my biggest disappointments/purchasing mistakes of the past couple of years(Geogaddi and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot) both make the Top 20. Maybe I just don't do Bleak any more.

Given the amount of Big Love shown for them around here, I'll dig them both out and give them another chance.

(As for Music Has The Right and Summer Teeth... NOW we're talking.)

The College Dropout was the first album I bought on the strength of Big Love @ ILM - for which I shall be eternally grateful.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

it's at 13, excuse typo

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 12:47 (nineteen years ago) link

'Sister Saviour' is still my favourite track on 'Echoes'
-- the neurotic awakening of s (stevem7...), August 26th, 2004.


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but only cos i can holler 'IIIIFFFFFF YA LIKE MAH BOOOODDDDYYY ANNNNND YAH THIIINK AHM SEEEXXXXXYYY...' over it
-- the neurotic awakening of s (stevem7...), August 26th, 2004.

Steve's next hair idol is uncovered.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Ken C! Photoshop! Stat!

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Red Cross was put together while Fahey was still alive, but he may have died before it came out?
Yes, this is correct.
Wow, Fahey in the top 12, who woulda thunk it? :)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 12

Points: 751
No. of votes: 34
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: HAIL TO THE THIEF
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/hailtothethief.jpg

50 words on Hail to the Thief (THANK YOU ILM IF ONLY THERE WAS A THREAD LIKE THIS FOR EVERY ALBUM NOMINATED)

Recommended tracks: There There, Sail To The Moon, Myxamatosis, I Will

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

but I think sub-student journalist attacks on the weight and looks of band members are far from helpful here. Dom, you're a tw@t.

Indie is like metal: attractive people can't do it properly.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Three Radiohead albums in the top 12 = Jesus hates the world

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

man, HTTT is dull.

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Count your blessings. At least it's not three in the top ten.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:25 (nineteen years ago) link

But HTTT is the best of the three! And its the only one I voted for...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 11

Points: 804
No. of votes: 39
No. of #1 votes: 2

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: AMNESIAC
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/amnesiac.jpg

You can call it scattered, or a glorified b-side collection, or what have you, but it's precisely that quality that makes it work for me. I don't think the band would be able to put together a completely non-rock Warpish record that had the dynamics to make it interesting -- I think if they tried, they'd come up with static, 4-minute snippets like "Everything...," laid end to end until they seemed meaningless. The beauty of Amnesiac is not only that it wins on the song front -- even though the songs here really are less plodding, more clever, more memorable -- but that the song selections and the sequencing create dynamics between the songs, so that "I Might be Wrong" suddenly firms up into the clear arpeggios of "Knives Out," which shatters into the fragments of "Morning Bell." This is no bog -- this is like stepping out of the bog into a city and being overwhelmed by the sheer stimulus of it, walking from corner to corner and seeing something new at each one. (Forgive me for just turning the two records into some sort of science-fiction epic, in which our heroes travel across the bog to the cathedral and the crystal city beyond. But these are my gut reactions, really: Kid A = mud, Amnesiac = crystal.) nitsuh

Recommended tracks: Pyramid Song, I Might Be Wrong, Pull/Pulk Revolving Doors, Life In A Glasshouse

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I sense a pattern.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

MDC, I am shocked! Amnesiac is clearly head and shoulders above the other two.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

i think they're all pretty good. but i'm no indie expert unlike THE REST OF YOU

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

"this is like stepping out of the bog"

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

How dare you call me an expert!

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Top 10 to come interweb mentalists...

Tool - Lateralus - would have been in the TOP 10 if it were on the nominations list.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Hey, don't knock post-shit satisfaction!

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Amnesiac is monumentally awful (and i like the rest of them).

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Amnesiac is their best record I still think.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link

every single thing they've done is rubbish

Porkpie (porkpie), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Amnesiac is the most awkward, abstract, tuneless charting British album since King Crimson's Larks Tonques in Aspic

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

High praise indeed!

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:45 (nineteen years ago) link

it's not praise - it's an observation - Tom !

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm always sorta amazed when i run into brits who preferred radiohead when they were just the english version of live

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i like amnesiac, but i REALLY like larks tongues in aspic. best prog ever!

peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 26 August 2004 13:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm always sorta amazed when i run into brits who preferred radiohead when they were just the english version of live

Just go to any Coldplay concert audience, Mr. Blount, you'll find it's not just the Brits.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

yes yes tim and jigga too

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

can people please stop whining about the indie please? it's doing my fucking nut in. chzthxbye.

dog latin (dog latin), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I find it amusing that nobody really whines about the r&b/rap/pop/dance picks. As if they were untouchable! Not that I can agree with the inclusion of "Flight Test" or Grandaddy, but still - did we expect this list to be indie free?

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Not to mention that all the pop/R&B picks are at the (nearly indie-free) top of the list, where they belong.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

I find it amusing that nobody really whines about the r&b/rap/pop/dance picks.

"OBVIOUSLY this is the good stuff, so why in the name of god almighty are these other things being picked? People actually LIKE them? EURGH!"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry, I meant to post that on the tracks thread.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned OTM

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I know Ned's post was satirical but it's how I genuinely feel about some of the records, and no apologies for it. If somebody stepped up to froth at the mouth about Toxic/Girls Aloud/Work It/anything else I voted for I wouldn't mind at all.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:46 (nineteen years ago) link

What Tom said. And in my case it's more to do with the specific indie records, rather than the fact they are indie. If eg Hearts Of Oak or Go Forth had made it into the Top 10 albums I would have been very happy indeed.

Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

How many FUN indie songs are there in the list? i think that's the key to the issue.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

maybe i should ask that question at the end...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

and on the tracks thread, not here

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh whew, after #13 had gone by, I was thinking to myself, "Oh no, please do not have three Radiohead albums in the top ten." Good to see Amnesiac place over HTTT, anyway, though the latter should not have been anywhere near #12.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:10 (nineteen years ago) link

I can't remember offhand if anyone voted for only one Basement Jaxx album and not the other but that strikes me as very daft.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

It's not daft. Rooty is classic. Kish Kash is above average.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I voted for Kish Kash and I haven't got Rooty!

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link

daft!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

I almost forgot to vote for Kish Kash (silly too, because I don't think I had fifteen albums on my ballot). I agree with Dr. Bill's assessment though.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i didn't vote for ANY bjaxx lps

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

you didn't send me a 'Romeo' comment either, but that's okay, I'm dead chuffed with my assessment.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought it'd rank higher and i'd have time!

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

If it was my Real Actual top 15 rather than top 15 from the poll only one BJ album would get in I think.

Looking at the top 10 my comments on bloc votes have rather boomeranged.

I think an interesting qn is - 'what does an album need to do/be in order to get into the ILM superhits'

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

anyhow i was gonna tie it into nina sky and lumidee and inoj queen of my heart (and dear god did nina sky not rank either????)(reminder to 12 ft lizards: no ilx year end poll this year. for reals.)

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

o tom that's an easy one - 'appeal to anglophile americans'

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:23 (nineteen years ago) link

can't wait until the 90s poll. TWO RADIOHEAD ALBUMS ION TH E TOP TEN?!??!? TEHERE IS NO GOD!!!!!!1!

I think I might even nominate Pablo Honey just for fun.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:24 (nineteen years ago) link

There are greater horrors lurking in the 90s poll I think.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

i wish i'd done the 90s poll first (and the 80s poll before that!). perhaps by then i would not have had the time and energy for this crapola...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh yeah, no one seems to be bothered to point out the awesomeness of VCN making top 20, so I'll do it.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it's because everyone automatically assumed it was the Noise Dudez bloc vote!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

i assumed it would go higher!

cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

it was top 10 for quite a while!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I mean, it's still Japanese nosie-kraut-trance-psychedelic-chantn'bass ranking higher than The White Stripes. Pretty cool.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

This is true...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I voted for Kish Kash and I haven't got Rooty!

Me too! Color me daft!

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I may have missed the announcement, but WHEN DO WE GET THE TOP 10?

Shall I just leave work now, or will the action start tonight?

Jamie (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Neurotic S is I very much hope DJing at a club night tonight rather than putting up more records.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

top 10 tomorrow, hopefully all over by teatime (BST)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Well can't he get a laptop behind the decks and spin 'em as he posts 'em? The tension is unbearable.

Is Club FT on tonight then? I might come along.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

you should. bring one hundred girls.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Thursday, 26 August 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Melissa, did you give Amnesiac the other #1 vote?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

that would be me

Felonious Drunk (Felcher), Thursday, 26 August 2004 16:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Do Wilco's records sound like this show? If so, I think they're great. "Spiders" roolz.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 August 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

"(Forgive me for just turning the two records into some sort of science-fiction epic, in which our heroes travel across the bog to the cathedral and the crystal city beyond. But these are my gut reactions, really: Kid A = mud, Amnesiac = crystal.)"


Speaking of which, here are the entries for the two albums on Wikipedia's concept albums page:

"Kid A - Radiohead (2000) - Homicidal genetically-engineered monstrosities (which represent capitalist exploitation) are let loose upon a complacent and denial-filled society."

"Amnesiac - Radiohead (2001) - Kid A narrator returns from death, and puts together his past life piece by piece"

Eh?

Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 26 August 2004 18:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Gosh, I just realized that I missed the Sisters's album when it was posted. Bummer. It should've been higher.

Atnevon (Atnevon), Thursday, 26 August 2004 19:35 (nineteen years ago) link

x^152-post: every PJH album has filler. Stories is jangly and therefore great.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Thursday, 26 August 2004 20:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Melissa, did you give Amnesiac the other #1 vote?

Of course.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 26 August 2004 21:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I forgot Stars of the Lid! Sorry, Amnesiac was #2 and GYBE was #3.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 August 2004 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link

when i met sundar in 2001 he was totally dissing on GYBE! you are so busted.

bnw (bnw), Thursday, 26 August 2004 22:41 (nineteen years ago) link

He also used to hate Radiohead.

Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 26 August 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link

JUDAS!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Both bands got better.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 26 August 2004 23:49 (nineteen years ago) link

More seriously, I don't think I'd heard very much GYBE when I met you and what I had heard (in the background at someone's house one night) was from F#A#oo, which I still don't like very much. I do remember that I was drunk enough that that might not have stopped me from totally dissing on them.

I don't think I ever hated Radiohead. I actually liked OK Computer a lot for a while before I burnt out on it later, but just took my time to hear the next two. When I actually gave them a good listen I liked them.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:00 (nineteen years ago) link

have you heard a silver mt.zion sundar? (GYBE side-project thing which is way better than any GYBE)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I only voted for Kish Kash, but Rooty was like my #17 or 18 album. Fifteen isn't very many, you know! I really can't believe I completely forgot about Cannibal Ox. That would have been really high on my list and should've been way higher than #41 overall. I shoulda voted for Boredoms (it was my #16), but it did well enough without my vote, and I didn't even realize Kanye West was nominated, but again, he did well enough without my support.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:04 (nineteen years ago) link

"Set Fire To Flames" is superior to G!BYE too.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:11 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm genuinely excited to see the top ten.
I'll be using this list to govern some buying for the next year, no doubt.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 00:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh maybe you're talking about the thread where I dissed "High and Dry" or "Fake Plastic Trees". I still don't have much use for the first two Radiohead albums.

Haven't heard ASMZ or SFtF. Is Shalabi in SFTF?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 27 August 2004 01:15 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think he is. There are about a dozen members, including a few of GYBE. Personally, I find them a bit dull. ASMZ are great, though. Their second album is by far the best IMO, although that's the one that sounds the most like GYBE. So if you're looking to get away from that, go for the first (a bare, contemplative sound -- they were just a trio at that time) or the third (a series of extremely long movements with large emphasis on vocals).

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 10

Points: 830
No. of votes: 38
No. of #1 votes: 1

Artist: BASEMENT JAXX
Title: ROOTY
Label: XL
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/rooty.jpg

It seems that I really do believe there's no such thing as a bad Basement Jaxx track. They're either gobsmackingly phenomenal or 'still kinda cool' y'know. Rooty has tracks that fit both those descriptions, the thing being that everyone has a totally different opinion on which are which. I don't think there is any filler on this album - it rises and dips in the way a rollercoaster would, snaking in and out of impeccably crafted yet chaotic loops of inspired brilliance. More importantly it's quite possibly the most out and out FUN album on this entire list. You get the best of both worlds with Basement Jaxx in that respect. As the 'middle act' of what could be classed as a trilogy of dance music designed for this decade (and beyond) it retains a distinct formula albeit one so potent and loaded with (JAX)X factor that it's effects last longer than anything else out there for me. Viagrasonic.

Recommended tracks: Romeo, Breakaway, Where's Your Head At?, Broken Dreams

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 09:38 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 9

Points: 904
No. of votes: 44
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: INTERPOL
Title: TURN ON THE BRIGHT LIGHTS
Label: Matador
Year: 2003

ihttp://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/turnonthebrightlights.jpg

Dark and mournful and emotional and overwrought (not a criticism) and, yes, hugely reminiscent of *certain* bands in the same way Placebo's Without You I'm Nothing is all about The Cure and Jane's Addiction and SY but still has its own footprint at the end of it. Charlie

Recommended tracks: Roland, NYC, PDA, Obstacle#1

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link

guh

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link

midway through voting they were 5th

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:05 (nineteen years ago) link

haha i'm gonna have to leave for work half-way through as per usual and come home to heartbreak again, aren't i?

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:06 (nineteen years ago) link

yay the most out and out fun album on the list was my nomination! boo interpol!

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i was gonna say Andrew WK is probably just as out and out fun, but I haven't heard it

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:31 (nineteen years ago) link

and Junior Senior i guess

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:31 (nineteen years ago) link

gimme my fix

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:32 (nineteen years ago) link

and don't forget Hail To The Thief

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm genuinely surprised by Interpol. I hardly remember reading anything positive about them here. Maybe I just filtered it out. (I don't think they are awful, just not top ten album material.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:34 (nineteen years ago) link

dont discount the silent majority.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link

but be sure to mock them.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link

people who lurk on ilm deserve to be mocked

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link

they've been watchiiiiing, they've been waitiiiiiiing

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:41 (nineteen years ago) link

Most of the Interpol I've heard, I heard in someone's car, but I usually like things more when I hear them in someone's car.

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link

904 / 44 = 21 average points per vote, no?

So I guess the typical person voting for Interpol thought it was about the 7th best record?

The okay-but-not-quite-yer-fave records will inherit the earth. :)

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:44 (nineteen years ago) link

The 15-20 avg. points per vote has been holding up through the entire list, so no, that does not explain Interpol's high ranking ... 44 people voting for it explains its ranking.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 8

Points: 948
No. of votes: 40
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: JAY-Z
Title: THE BLUEPRINT
Label: Mercury
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/theblueprint1.jpg

Jay-Z is like the rap Winston Churchill. I would\'ve died for him after The Blueprint came out. I just thought "this guy has it all". I don't listen to albums, and if I own an album I always skip. But not The Blueprint. It's actually the perfect thing to take with you on holiday in a rental car with only a tapedeck. Jacob

Recommended tracks: Girls Girls Girls, In The Heart Of The City, Renegade, Izzo (H.O.V.A.)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link

justice is restored.

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 10:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i was listening to that a couple days ago, it just never fails to make me happy.

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Spose I'd better track that down, can't listen to "One Beat" all day

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I voted "Turn on the Bright Lights" my number 2. It's such a beautiful record. My number one didn't make it.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:37 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 7

Points: 983
No. of votes: 38
No. of #1 votes: 0 (the highest ranked album to not score a #1 vote from anyone)

Artist: THE STREETS
Title: A GRAND DON'T COME FOR FREE
Label: 679
Year: 2004

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/agranddontcomeforfree.jpg

I have to confess not buying many artist albums, besides mixes, in the last 2 years or so. But this really is the most affecting album I've heard since Discovery or some of the 2002 classics. I think the production is far better than on OPM, it's smoother and smarter, and more varied. The piano driven tracks and the sentimental tracks seem to work fantastically well.

Basically Skinner seems to have mastered a sort of show don't tell style, so much of the album just highlights the glory of half-thought, and rubbishes the idea of distilling experiences and emotions into lyrics which fit a beat or which rhyme or can be used in a chorus. There are parts of the album where he reaches a total vernacular beauty, at the most emotional part, the climax perhaps, "Empty Cans", he says something like "My jeans felt too tight". This theme seems to go through the whole album, on "Could Well Be In" the chorus is "I saw this thing on ITV the other week, that says, if she plays with her hair I could well be in"!!!

It's a sort of slow burner this, but god it's worth it. "Empty Cans" is the most unpretentious yet effective assessment of life I've heard in any record, for a long time. Ronan

Recommended tracks: Blinded By The Light, Get Out Of My House, Dry Your Eyes, Empty Cans

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Hurrah for Mike Skinner! Did you think my comments were too rubbish Steve?

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:47 (nineteen years ago) link

obv. that's precisely what he thought

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link

God Steve's a dick

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 11:59 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry Tom, i'll use them on the webpage version (by which point the votes will have been recounted to reveal that Interpol were top 3 all along)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:01 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 7

Points: 1008
No. of votes: 43
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: BASEMENT JAXX
Title: KISH KASH
Label: XL
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/kishkash.jpg

Kish Kash didn't take much deliberation to make my number one, for it
is everything Basement Jaxx is, everything that makes them compelling, surprising, frenetic, starry-eyed, intuitive and above all, just themselves. This is particularly apparent when you've come to terms with the consistency in the album's running order and the way it bursts not only with sounds but with life. Like Cornelius and The Avalanches (my no's 3 and 2, respectively), there's so much going on that if you don't take time to listen around, you might miss it (but thank God for the RWD button). Not only the sounds of the 3-parties-in-one that are 'Right Here's The Spot', 'Plug It In', 'Cish Cash' and 'Lucky Star' and the Jaxx's all-out Voltron-assembly of pop songs, Prince-outs and mismatched but purposeful sonic chaos, but the things they do to their special guests. In-between spitting catchphrases on every verse, Dizzee Rascal sounds like the electrodes attached to his secret places are working overtime, Me'shell flirts with a gender identity crisis that she can't conceal her enjoyment over, Totlyn deploys a winning bid for Queen (or King) Scatter of 2003, JC further hints at his growing case of Schizophrenia, his emergent tender sleaziness and his desire to be the most Purple teen idol ever, and erotic pleasure belies Siouxsie's dominatrix cries of "YOU'RE INSATIABLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEE!" And I'll be damned if I'm not. I don't want to miss a thing. Barima

Recommended tracks: Good Luck, Plug It In, Lucky Star, Cish Cash

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(Bit late, but never mind...)

There was so much on Original Pirate Material which thrilled and moved me... and yet I simply cannot wring even an ounce of pleasure from the crashing disappointment of A Grand Don't Come For Free - an album which does nothing except evoke unwelcome memories of Sham 69's "masterpiece" That's Life. While the tiresome "story" flails aimlessly all over the place, the thin, half-baked, demo-quality stodge behind it offers nothing in the way of musical support.

I look at it in the shoebox on the floor, and it feels like homework. So I stick Phoenix on AGAIN.

(OK, so I'll grant you "Blinded By The Light", but no more.)

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

number 6, that is

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Spot on review for Kish Kash.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:18 (nineteen years ago) link

And there's my #1 album. Fantastic.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:21 (nineteen years ago) link

The Curse Of The Mash-Up part 347: whenever i hear 'Cish Cash' in my head Siouxsie is replaced by Shaggy doing 'Mr Boombastic' - WTflyingF??!

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Kish Kash got my number one vote too. I love it like I love my new puppy and chocolate.

Penelope_111 (Penelope_111), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Mine was at 70.

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:26 (nineteen years ago) link

No. of #1 votes: 0 (the highest ranked album to not score a #1 vote from anyone)

I would've voted #1 for it!!! Cripes!!

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 August 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm surprised I was the only one to vote Rooty number one. Actually, when I voted, I was also surprised it was my number one. I guess I did so because it was the album that got me back into music after a good couple of years of not caring much. It was the best Prince album I'd heard since Lovesexy. Romeo was completely irresistible and Where's Your Head At led me back to Gary Numan. It's a safe bet that had there been no Rooty in my life, I would not have found ILM.

frankE (frankE), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:33 (nineteen years ago) link

My first reaction to A Grand Don't Come for Free was, You've got to be kidding me? The ITV line was so awkward and uncomfortable... My second reaction was, this is so (excuse the word) endearing.

frankE (frankE), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:35 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm still in two minds

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm probably keen.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:48 (nineteen years ago) link

but what do you know about cricket?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you, Alba. But I fear Steve sneakily replaced 'Supersonic' with 'Good Luck', as there's no way I honestly prefer GL to 'Super', which is definitely the track I've listened to most after 'Plug It In'. I think I voted Rooty as my 9th or 10th, mind.

Steve, try MTV's Shaggy/Vallance mash-up instead.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i was the only person who voted rooty #1? really?

adam west (adamwest), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I guess he took other people's recommendations into account.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm a little disappointed my Interpol write-up wasn't used, but on the other hand, that's one less thing for you guys to make fun of me for. :-)

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, that's more than likely, Alb, tho' I liked the outsider/underdog status 'Supersonic' exudes.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i think you're the only person who rates Supersonic that much dude. Sure I like it, but Good Luck is the best song of all time (after Euro 2004 saturation) now.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the bitterness 'Good Luck' exudes.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:22 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry jaymc, keep losing track of what's been written - again it will appear in the final webpage version to be published next week

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the only 'fuck you' song I can think of right now that doesn't just end up making the singer sound pathetic.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:23 (nineteen years ago) link

what about 'Caught Out There'?

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:24 (nineteen years ago) link

hey steve, can you put a full list of votes (numbers 101-???) on the webpage version?

peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I admit I wasn't thinking very hard.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

would you like more graphs than your brain can handle with that?

xpost

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

But being so explicit about the hating rather than taking the sarcastic route of 'Good Luck' is somehow a different kind of thing.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Or 'Hit 'Em Up Style'?

Jess wrote some real niceness about 'Supersonic' in December and more than anything, it encapsulates what Kish Kash the album is about, as per my opening sentences.

x-p

That Euro 2004 help certainly didn't give Kish Kash a top 10 hit at last, which was irritating to say the least. Hell, JC did better on his own!

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:30 (nineteen years ago) link

(Not counting 'Good Luck's original no.12 placing)

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:31 (nineteen years ago) link

'Hit Em Up Style' isn't the same, because she lets herself sound so vulnerable on the "all of the lies you told" bit for it to be an uncomplicated 'fuck you'.

'Hit Em Up Style' should have been in this top 100, btw.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:35 (nineteen years ago) link

ALBA OTM (only in the singles arena, not the album list)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't know shit about albums, so that's OK.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:39 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 5

Points: 1035
No. of votes: 44
No. of #1 votes: 8

Artist: THE AVALANCHES
Title: SINCE I LEFT YOU
Label: XL
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/tracks/sinceileftyou.jpg

Around the world in 80 minutes. The irony being the opening title track just sounds like coming home as much as 'Extra Kings' - a perfect loop encompassing a tour de force in which you are waltzed up and disco'd down, bombarded in all directions by friendly bombs, primed straight for the heart. It's hard to think about 'Since I Left You' as something you'd listen to NOT during an epic journey such is the obviousness with which this theme is presented. And as cliched as it would be to call it a musical journey as well as the soundtrack to a geographical...oh man no I just can't do it. But it's a journey I'm happy to keep taking again and again. Basically I can't think of a better soundtrack to a better life. A life that may not even involve that many other people. Perhaps just the one person. That special someone, and everything that lies between them and you - past, present and future. The whole thing lives and breathes, sings and roars like one giant electric circus complete with dancing bears (without chains) and...oh I don't know, fluorescent elephants. Technical supremacy (finest 'showing off' since 'Endtroducing', but a damn sight more FUN than that all round) and impressive ambition scoring big, variety the splice of life. Here is your ticket.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

woops, wrong location for that image

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Aaah, that's nice. I'm going to listen to it when I get home.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Also 8 number one votes!!!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Recommended tracks: Since I Left You, Frontier Psychiatrist, Flight Tonight, Live At Dominoes

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

I should give that another listen, I can see on paper why it's so good but I've always found it too lounge-y the few times I've listened to it.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:44 (nineteen years ago) link

It doesn't pack the punch of the Basement Jaxx albums but there are too many gorgeous moments for that to be a real criticism.

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

(Also Frontier Psychiatrist was too zany.)

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never given that album a chance, mostly because both "Since I Left You" and "Frontier Psychiatrist" irritate me when listened to in isolation; I wouldn't be at all surprised if they made more sense on the album (I had a similar reaction to The Cure's "The End Of The World").

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

It's a fucking annoying record.

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

it's thing like 'Etoh' and 'Summer Crane' that get me on the album as much as the rollerskatin' madness of 'Live At Dominoes' - the former tracks are essentially interludes but it's like being whispered to sleep by sparkling angels who proceed to infiltrate your dreams and ensure much pleasantness (interpret as you wish).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

sorry for becoming a total wanker as the end draws ever closer...

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

OTM. That last section from Etoh onwards is nearly perfect.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I really tried to like this. I've gone back to the CD store and put this on, trying to convince myself to buy it, but I always loose interest after about 2 and half songs. I also remember having a burn of it when it came out, and playing it at work over and over - only to get very annoyed with it. Not sure why that is, because it seems pleasant enough.

dleone (dleone), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i think the other thing is knowing Gimix and their other mixes so well which feel like extensions of the album and their thinking behind it, to the point where it just stops being an album to my mind altogether (which i find a very good thing in this decade).

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Great record. Try to get the original Australian edition with the illegal samples (Midnight Run!)

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 August 2004 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Does Gimix really sync up w/it THAT WELL? Cos if it does I'll just make it myself (I'd rather not)

Andrew Blood Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I've had an experience similar to dleone's. For all SILY gets championed as an album, I really just like the singles. Every time I've tried to listen to the whole thing it bored me.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Friday, 27 August 2004 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i deeply love every record from #10 up so far!!!

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:04 (nineteen years ago) link

even and especially the interpol which is so bright and shinily produced and has better tunes than the kitchens of distinction and has those pretty shimmery guitar lines and has lyrics that are openly unapologetically memorably awful and i played it more than any rock album let alone indie rock since um what? (ans: dolittle in high school i think)

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:11 (nineteen years ago) link

i had to live with SILY for a while before it made sense to love it. it took the entirety of a summer vacation and one cold winter night.

m. (mitchlnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

i used to think since i left you was a summer record but now i actually think it's a winter record because the vinyl beat diggin aesthetic sounds like the memory of warmth

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

An album for all seasons (it came out in the Winter here anyway)

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I have the opposite reaction to Dan. SILY was my #1 single but the album I find just too hectoring to enjoy.

Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 4

Points: 1056
No. of votes: 50
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: DIZZEE RASCAL
Title: BOY IN DA CORNER
Label: XL
Year: 2003

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/boyindacorner.jpg

This was only the most written about record in the blogosphere/ILM boards ever and I\'m under no illusion that I\'ve got anything meaningful to add after all of that other than it's my number one choice because I was genuinely, metaphorically knocked over by Dizzee's sound in a way I hadn't been since I just started getting into music as a youngster. JoB

Recommended tracks: I Luv U, Stop Dat, Brand New Day, Hold Ya Mouf

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Dizzee sweeps the #4 spot!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

no podium place for little Dylan :(

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

You could do Gold, Silver, Bronze, and Tin

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Where the fuck is Is This It??? And Parachutes???

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Hopefully burning on a gigantic pile of shit.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

not nominated, I think. Pretty sure I woulda voted for Is This It if it was there.

Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, I'm slightly upset that Kish Kash placed higher than Rooty.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_. It's better sequenced and overall has better songs.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

so untrue. so, so untrue.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

No, very very true.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh come on they are within two spots of one another. Like it really matters (FWIW I like Kish Kash better as an album too.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_.

Perhaps, but Rooty meant / means way more to me.

frankE (frankE), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_. It's better sequenced and overall has better songs.
-- VengaDan Perry (djperr...), August 27th, 2004.


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so untrue. so, so untrue.
-- The Good Dr. Bill (fadeout9...), August 27th, 2004.


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No, very very true.
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 27th, 2004.

Where else can you find this level of music debate on the web?

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Basement Jaxx=overrated! And I even heard an entire CD by them, not just five second samples. (I would like to give Kish Kash a try though.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't got Rooty, as I said, but from the tracks off it that I do know, it sounds lot less song-oriented and rock-textured than Kish Kash. Is that fair?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 3

Points: 1287
No. of votes: 56
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: THE STREETS
Title: ORIGINAL PIRATE MATERIAL
Label: Locked On
Year: 2002

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/originalpiratematerial.jpg

Original Pirate Material is as much England's first great hip-hop album as it is its last great music hall album. It's also the best 2-tone album since the Beat went bad, and Ian Dury via Rhythm Division. It's every cliché you've heard so far, and then a few more piled on top. The fact that it survives this blitz at all is testament to Mike Skinners' very real skillz: language, delivery, rhythm, inflection. If it seems slight now compared to its superior sequel, that's a bit like comparing an author's (for he is) collection of early short stories to the novel. The fourteen slices of life on OPM are still very rich places to revisit. And compared to the ultra-spare backings of the new album, the music has far more depth than I remember: the slurping, harumphing beats of "Sharp Darts," the weird ambient rustles at the beginning of "It's Too Late," the gnarled as old shoe leather orchestral loops in "Geezer's Need Excitement", the cheesy incidental garridge of "Who Got The Funk?", the "Fit But You Know It" prototype Madness/Jam chug of "Don't Mug Yourself", the Disco Inferno-ish feel of "Has It Come To This?". As for the words, if I started quoting, I'd be here all night, but special shout out to "we first me through a shared view/she loved me and I did too", a bit of amazingly subtle self-absorption that never really draws attention to itself even though it's the lynchpin on which "It's Too Late" (and maybe the album itself) spins on. Mike Skinner wasn't writing about the everyman. It's just fourteen versions of himself. He just happens to live like common people, doing whatever common people do. Jess

Recommended tracks: Turn The Page, Has It Come To This, It's Too Late, Weak Become Heroes

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Where else can you find this level of music debate on the web?

The minimal is maximal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

At this point there's no way that Basement Jaxx COULDN'T be seen as overrated, considering that they've been painted as dance messiahs.

(BTW "overall" is a copout that means "okay, of the songs on the two albums maybe my two favorites are on _Rooty_ but the next 6 are on _Kish Kash_".)

(xxpost NOW TALK ABOUT OVERRATED GAAAAAAH)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

What a showdown for the last two though.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

rockist scientist why are you playing such a curmudgeon caricature on this thread? ease up.

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Radiohead will beat Daft Punk, won't they? I just know they sodding will.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

It's Kid A vs. Discovery, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

In the world series of love.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh jesus.

Well, I said that they had even odds, so it's a coin toss--the personification of the "ILM taste" vs. the personification of the critical hivemind. Will good triumph over evil? Does it matter which album is better? Can I say here that Kid A was my #1?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

whatta nailbiter!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

... the slurping, harumphing beats of "Sharp Darts," ...
I think I've learned a new word today!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

/me cover eyes, peers through fingers, unable to stop watching the slo-mo car crash

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

kid a will win all the telltale warning signs are there

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

is it gonna be florida all over again?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i hope its that close

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

funny how both the "ilm taste" and "critical hivemind" picks are really good records

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I will grant "Weak Become Heroes" and "Don't Mug Yourself" but otherwise there's a sparseness on _OPM_ that I find completely, totally, absolutely off-putting. Kick it in the nuts!

(xpost at this point I hope _Kid A_ wins because it is hands down a better album than _Discovery_, which is yet another example of ILM taking a decent album and elevating it to undeserved godhood)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it might be in Stevem's best interests to put Radiohead at #2 no matter who actually won.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

all great albums are decent albums elevated to undeserved godhood

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

This is true but some albums are more undeserving than others.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

some girls are bigger than others!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A is interesting in theory, tedious in actuality. Some people would no doubt say exactly the same about Discovery. Some people will say it about BOTH!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I think both albums are totally worthy of #1.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

It's kind of understandable that Kid A would do well in this list, as it really works as an album in the age of the track (although I am now bitterly regretting placing it at all). As Jess said over on the other thread, though - I can't understand the love for Radiohead tracks. Whereas with Discovery, I (shame) never listen to the whole album at all. I just play the singles over and over.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i very very rarely listen to all of either album

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm guessing if stankonia had been nominated it've taken this thing

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think it works as an album, though (Kid A this is) - so often when I tried to listen to it I got lulled by the ambient one and then thought ah, fuck it, I want something pretty every time the harsher stuff came back in.

I can understand people respecting it but liking it? Eh. LOVING it? Double eh.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

not sure i ever made it through kid a straight through

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

wait. why wasn't it or "is this it" nominated?? did they come out in 1999? if not, that seems so odd. i don't understand this poll.

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

_Is This it_ wasn't nominated because _It Is Shit_.

(I SLAY ME)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't often make it to the end of Discovery either but that's cos I feel happy and delighted with the world by the end of Something About Us!

I do take Jamie's point though, I'm not an 'albums person' and maybe thats why I put Discovery as my #1.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i hate to say it but not enough brits voted

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A is interesting in theory, tedious in actuality. Some people would no doubt say exactly the same about Discovery. Some people will say it about BOTH!
I am some people.
Actually, "Discovery" isn't even interesting in theory, so never mind that.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Look, at Glastonbury 2003 I had to fucking stand for about an hour watching those tedious twats, having the most fucking miserable time of my life waiting to discover that all my friends were thinking exactly the same thing and that we could go somewhere else and actually enjoy ourselves. We did and it was great. How can the best fucking album of the decade come from the same band that put us through that? Jesus Christ, I hate Radiohead.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Alba smells like poo.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

_Is This it_ wasn't nominated because _It Is Shit_.
(I SLAY ME)

-- VengaDan Perry (djperr...), August 27th, 2004.

hahawhatever but anyway a lot of people here and everywhere like it a lot. so i'm surprised it wasn't even an option. as with "stankonia."

so no outkast albums in the top 100 then?

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

(I would not be so down on _Discovery_ if I didn't think that "Music Sounds Better Than You" encapsulates the vibe of the album in one song.)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

(er, "Than" = "With" DAMN YOU ID)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:51 (nineteen years ago) link

This is the beauty of the nomination process I think, it reminds me of when big teams don't qualify for the World Cup, it allows plucky minnows their chance to shine (step forward, uh, LCD Soundsystem)

xpost "Music Sounds Better Than You" is a great lost title for someone.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

no - everyone had a chance to nominate something and somehow noone got around to nominating any strokes or outkast albums. and the thing is i'm pretty sure both would've gotten the highest ranking of their genre.

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

'Please Let Me Wonder' encapsulates the whole vibe of Pet Sounds in one song. Who cares?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:53 (nineteen years ago) link

So is Interpol at no.9 the same as having something like Public enemy at no.9 in the all time top 10? A token indie rock record.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

rockist scientist why are you playing such a curmudgeon caricature on this thread? ease up.

Do you feel I'm usurping your persona?

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Except that Kid A is gonna be 1 or 2, Julio.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't really think 'music sounds better with glue' encapsulates discovery at all, no guitar solo for one.

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Alba, in this particular case, I do.

They released a fucking blinder of a tune under a different name, then went on to record multiple infeior versions of it and released it under the Daft Punk moniker and people went batshit insane over it and I never really understood why.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A (musically speaking) is hardly token indie rock.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:55 (nineteen years ago) link

("vibe" != "instrumentation" but anyway)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

x post

Er, this is embarrassing (in a persistent lurker defends Radiohead even though I didn't vote for it that high, honest kind of way) but...

The album itself takes you on the ol' personal>political journey that Tommy took. Quietude and withdrawal from the world ('I'm not here') to a kind of wake up call ('This is really happening'). The ambient one sits bang in the middle while they think about it all. Kind of symmetry to it all. (The National Anthem should have come in the second half, though.) Anyway, while not being a *fan*, by any means, it is one of the very few 00s records that I actually listen to the whole thing every time I listen to it.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

somehow noone got around to nominating any strokes or outkast albums.
As I mentioned upthread (or maybe it was on the other one), this "randomness" in the nomination process is certainly the most glaring weakness in this poll.
(xposts)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I somehow wonder if there might not have been 20 or so albums that Stevem could've thrown in as "automatic qualifiers" -- maybe, like, the top 5 P&J finishers from each year? And then we'd nominate the rest.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

'Music Sounds Better With You' is kind of annoying, mostly. Mind you, so is 'One More Time', but I like most of the rest of Discovery a whole lot more than Stardust.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

isn't there more electronics on kid A tho'? (I haven't heard either).

but ok, ilm was nearly there.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

rockist scientist why are you playing such a curmudgeon caricature on this thread? ease up.
Do you feel I'm usurping your persona?

-- Rockist_Scientist (phatw...), August 27th, 2004.

er, i don't recall posting 100 times to this or any other thread with variations on "i've never heard that one"/"i heard that one once in a friend's car, i didn't like it"/"i can't bring myself to care about this"/etc. i dunno, it reminds me a bit of ned's popping up on springsteen/strokes/etc. threasd to offer 1800 chipper variations on "meh."

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i think the "randomness" has turned out to be it's saving grace!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Weirdly I bought the Stardust record when it first appeared and didn't like it. In fact I've never much liked it. It's odd because I can see exactly what Dan's saying, for me they tweaked the formula in some indefinable way and went from pfft to perfection.

I totally disagree about the nominations process, lets have SOME room for quirk for fucks sake.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Jaymc, that sort of idea was bandied about on the nominations thread, but nobody showed much enthusiasm for it.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Spare us nominations for the 90s poll!!!!

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't even like Homework that much to be honest.

Do I have to hand in my Daft Club card now?

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:00 (nineteen years ago) link

poor outkast and strokes now these overlooked classics will never achieve the critical recognition they deserve!!!

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

i own 35 of the records on the list. that's more than i thought i would have for some reason. i will go buy the rest of them tomorrow. and if it is kid a coming up next then make that 36.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:01 (nineteen years ago) link

ooh, my last post was post 666, i'm gonna post again real quick so that i don't die.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Stevem, can you hurry up and finish the thing off before we all hate each other too much?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

bring on the hate

(homework is def rub really)

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:04 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, the "randomness" does lead to some intruiging placings (i.e. stuff other than the "standards" throughout the list), but if you're doing that at the expense of representing people's true faves (there are some huge, huge omissions here), then it takes away from the defined intention of the list -- to pick the best songs/albums of the half-decade.

Obviously, there's a balance that should be struck somehow (not like I have any bright ideas right now on how to do it better if there is a next time, but still).

(xposts)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah, I want to start cooking my dinner...

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Artiste does raise the question of what purpose lists like this are supposed to serve. Is it supposed to mark an accurate reflection of what you like, or is it supposed to help spotlight albums that haven't gotten enough recognition? I guess I always assume it's the former, and then I read about Roger Ebert putting something on his top 10 list (I forget what it was) because he knew nobody else was going to and he wanted to give it some attention. That's probably why so many people voted "strategically," too; I just never think in those terms, I was so busy trying to come up with an accurate reflection of my own favorites.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

i don't know - these lists never actually mean anything so i think there's some potential to have some fun in acknowledging they don't mean anything and playing with that

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

but if you're doing that at the expense of representing people's true faves

Well if a record isn't a single person's #1 fave then I don't think people can be begrudge its non-appearance too much. You all had the chance to nominate them folks!

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 2

Points: 1467
No. of votes: 55
No. of #1 votes: 10

Artist: DAFT PUNK
Title: DISCOVERY
Label: Virgin
Year: 2001

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/discovery.jpg

This record means a lot to me. My strongest memory of it is linked to
this board, oddly enough. It was summer 2001, the big rooftop party at
Suzy's block of flats where London ILX really got going. It was a
fantastic day. As the afternoon lazed on and we all got drunk we
decided to go and put Daft Punk on the stereo - about half of us
danced around like wallies and sung "One More Time" as loudly as we
could. Every time I play that song it reminds me not to give up on
pop, people, stuff. Bad times are cyclical: the beat will come back,
the dance will go on. That sounds corny - well, the song sounds corny.
But I honestly believe it, and I love Daft Punk for catching that
feeling.

There are lots of rational reasons to like Discovery. It is elegant.
It is playful. It is a sketchbook of most of the possibilities
remaining to house music (my original draft expanded at some boring
length on this). It is full of noises you knew were beautiful and
noises you didn't know were beautiful. It has the best love song of
the decade on it (and "Something About Us" is pretty fucking amazing
too). Thomas and Guy-Manuel look fantastic in their robot suits. Also
I'd be lying if I didn't admit I like how they baffle and even annoy
some people. But the main thing I love about Discovery is its
optimism, its love of life in all its bathetic, glorious, cheesy,
beautiful diversity.

(In the context of this list I am hugely tempted to contrast that
optimism with - well, you can probably guess, and do it yourself.)

I think you either hear that optimism in Daft Punk or you don't. If
you don't, you probably hear it somewhere else. People listen to music
- and sorry if this bit gets embarrassing - to make their lives
better. People talk about that music, discuss it and share it to make
each others' lives better. And so here we are. I have not lived up to
this philosophy that much on ILM. ILM in general has not lived up to
that philosophy much. But it's done a better job than almost anywhere
else I can think of on the Internet. What I'm trying to say is
thankyou Daft Punk, and thankyou ILM, and even if sometimes I'd
happily see this place deleted I think in ten years time I'll be
really proud of having started it. Now go and listen to this record
again you fuckers. Tom Ewing

Recommended tracks: Digital Love, One More Time, Harder Better Faster Stronger, Something About Us


No. 1

Points: 1619
No. of votes: 55
No. of #1 votes: 10

Artist: RADIOHEAD
Title: KID A
Label: Parlophone
Year: 2000

http://base58.com/ilx/ilm/top100/20002004/albums/kida.jpg

Recommended tracks: Idioteque, Everything In it's Right Place, Optimistic, Morning Bell

The margin! Misery beats fun! There's enough you can say about the result and what it says about ILM. I will leave that up to you What about the album though....?

Kid A made it safe for the indie kids to actually think about how music is constructed and how it is \"art\" without being too wank about it all. Mattson Carlhew

I have a feeling I\'m not alone in putting Radiohead at the top of the list. What else could (almost) everyone agree on from the past 4 years? Radiohead practically gets the crown by default, simply because nothing else remotely iconic was released. Remember all the press attention and word of mouth about this album? I remember when it came out I lived with a kid who had voted for Bush, and Radiohead was virtually the only thing we had in common. We drove to the next town to get our copies at midnight, and listened to the whole thing as soon as we got back. Our respective reactions were irrelevant--what matters is that no other release has mattered that much since then. If KID A had come out in 1991, would it have been overshadowed? Probably, but who knows. It doesn\'t matter. What works in the music worlds makes as little sense as what works in politics. Back when the biggest threat to the world seemed to be boy bands, Radiohead instilled the kind of hope in us white college kids that John Kerry wishes he could instill now. Richard Killiam

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

"It's just slash your wrists music, isn't it?"

Actually, yes.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:08 (nineteen years ago) link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Radiohead rulzz!!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

told you

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

move along people. nothing to see.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

So what was number 0?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

(I wish Tom's comments could have accompanied the top of the tree.)

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:10 (nineteen years ago) link

wait a minute. who all voted radiohead?

cºzen (Cozen), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Same number of total votes and same number of #1s, but look at Radiohead's margin of victory!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:14 (nineteen years ago) link

woo-hoo!

Jamie Fake (the pirate king), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Crimony.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

if ilm loves radiohead so much why don't they marry it. hahahahahaha!!!

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

(I wish Tom's comments could have accompanied the top of the tree.)

I actually voted Radiohead #2 (behind Mclusky), but yeah, first thing that came to mind as well.

Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Alright, alright, whatever. Could Stevem please post my ballots on a separate thread somewhere because I've completely forgotten what I've voted for.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:16 (nineteen years ago) link

i might've voted for kid a! stevem do ballots on another thread plz!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A got 61 votes, not 55 - sorry

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Vaguely relevant threads to amuse yourself with:

Kid A

Taking Sides - Amnesiac vs. Kid A

What artists would you like to see go through a Kid A-ish period of experimental excess?

Ten Words Or Less: Kid A

And one of the first ILM threads ever -- from Tom!

Radiohead Album Cover: What Are They Thinking?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Steve, we love you anyway for putting yourself through such masochistic interweb metalism.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

Radiohead practically gets the crown by default,

this is why I hate radiohead so much...

bill stevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

We need to undertake research to see if the Voting form was circulated on Radiohead mailing lists/ MBs ;-)

DJ Martian (djmartian), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:21 (nineteen years ago) link

(As a Brit) is this what all the people who voted Nader in 2000 felt like?

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

the list is not all one thing or all one goal, it is a mix of love and strategy and bile and contrarianism and the desire to share this great record you fell in love with and listened to nothing but for a week or a year

the nom process was good because to burn your one nom you had to really love something. i believe every record on this list is beloved by somebody and i respect that even if i hate some of them.

and thats why this is a good list

and tom's comments made me sad and happy just like the album

sorry im getting emo

im gonna go now

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

next week: the 90s!

unless i drink myself into oblivion tonight which may be slightly more fun...

later

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:22 (nineteen years ago) link

yikes - killiam vs. ewing really is a 'now vs. then' isn't it

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

seriously, someone can we just auto-excelsior jess' reaction to this when the time comes?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA! DAFT PUNK SUCKS!

(and Kid A aint much better)

jed_ (jed), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:28 (nineteen years ago) link

(You're right, amateurist, I'm the only one to make a few negative comments on this thread, and of course I've said nothing positive on it anywhere at all. Obviously I've been so awful on this thread that it was necessary to call me out for these things.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

I still put forth my request to do the 90s poll, but if you want to do it, let me just suggest that we have open voting but be able to vote for more than 15 albums. And that we change 'tracks' to 'singles' and have open voting for that as well.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Stevem's 2000-4 poll instilled the kind of hope in us white college kids that John Kerry wishes he could instill now.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:35 (nineteen years ago) link

omg i hadnt bothered to read the rhead comments before now!!

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Who is Richard Killiam?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Problem with doing a 90's poll : we already know what will win #1 album. Perhaps we should hand the top spot to Loveless and just vote on #2-#100.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Are you implying that it's Loveless that's a shoe-in for #1?

uh...

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I would say "Remember that this is ILM" but LOOK AT THE 00 POLL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

open voting in the 90s = pop vote scatters a million directions, indie vote rallies round touchstones

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:43 (nineteen years ago) link

xp boy bands?

bakers (thoia), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

What else would it be?
(xpost OK Computer is no match for Loveless, except on PFM, but their points tabulation system was fucked anyway)

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Loveless won the ILM poll of best record of all time, but that was a while ago.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Even beat out Britney. And I didn't vote in that one either!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Also, after this poll people would probably not vote for it in a "Oh I don't want to be predictable in THAT way" reaction.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Which means that Violator goes number one and the world is made right once again!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

b..b..b..b..but to this day, writing a bad word about Loveless on ILM will get you banned for life. It's the equivalent of a hate crime in our little musical society!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I fear it would be even worse. Achtung Baby!

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

(xpost)
Doesn't Ned employ a gang of thugs to hunt people down in such instances?

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Indeed, what constituttes an "ILM person," when many are just 'lurkers' which could be any number of people that we never see posting. So, if someone has only lurked once or twice, what are they? I say let's give those 'swing voters' a chance. If Justin Timberlake shows up too much, though, we may regret it...

-- Richard K (billycorga...), July 30th, 2004. (Richard K)

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:56 (nineteen years ago) link

It'd still have pretty good odds, though. Definitely top five, probably top two, possibly #1.

At least there's no totally obvious #1 single...right?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Dr. Bill, load up on guns, and bring your friends.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Because when the light's out...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

No way.

Here?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

if ned recorded a cover of smells like teen spirit i might vote for that

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Ned Raggett Reads ILM Poll Songs

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd like to point out the obvious point that picking the obvious critical consensus song/album as #1 is not only not a bad thing but is actually not all that surprising.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd guess "common people" would be the no. 1 single - or is this me thinking with my heart rather than my head?

scott pl. (scott pl.), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link

STEVEM DO NOT DO THE 90S IT WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE AND EVERYONE WILL ONLY EXPLODE WITH RAGE WHEN OK COMPUTER INEVITABLY WINS AND THERE ARE FIFTEEN WILL OLDHAM ALBUMS IN THE TOP 100. OK THX BYE.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Argh, someone shoot my my crimes against the English language.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Attack of The The Dan Perrys

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:13 (nineteen years ago) link

(hee)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

'Discovery' was my #2, 'Kid A' was my number nothing.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Spencer, I'm hearing you say that in a French accent.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:32 (nineteen years ago) link

"Back when the biggest threat to the world seemed to be boy bands"

oh good grief . . .

chris herrington (chris herrington), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:34 (nineteen years ago) link

WHO IS RICHARD KILLIAM?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

RICHARD KILLIAM FOR PRESIDENT (of Kickedinthecrotchia)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:37 (nineteen years ago) link

He's the new Keyser Soze.

(He's posted a few times and is a Smashing Pumpkins fan like myself. Ergo, a good egg!)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:38 (nineteen years ago) link

A good egg slightly scrambled.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think he's been reading ILX for a few weeks now, but he'll be :)ed to see this thread I reckon

comme personne (common_person), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link

Not after we get through raking him over the coals for 'oh brother' lines like that...

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I can only imagine how stupid his children will think he is when they google his name 15 years from now and find his moronic comments on Kid A. Actually the thought of that is making me feel better.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I think his children might be too busy laughing at us for overreacting to his writing to laugh at him (also they will be saying "_Kid A_? What album is that?" because no one will remember it five years from now let alone 15 and I say that as someone who loves it).

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:44 (nineteen years ago) link

TEH 'HEAD is influntial anmd GREBT and IMAGENE if you can a BAND that wuold be BETTER because I CANOT Geer!

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I think his children might be too busy laughing at us for overreacting to his writing to laugh at him

There is much wisdom here.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:46 (nineteen years ago) link

OMG, I just read that whole paragraph - it really is awful.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I think his and Jess's comments on OPM are the only ones I actually finished reading (no offense)

comme personne (common_person), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:48 (nineteen years ago) link

What else could (almost) everyone agree on from the past 4 years? Radiohead practically gets the crown by default, simply because nothing else remotely iconic was released.

You've gotta be kidding me.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:49 (nineteen years ago) link

(Mark my words: 15 years from now more people will remember Coldplay than Radiohead.)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Spot on, Mr. Perry. I think that's already the case NOW.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:51 (nineteen years ago) link

I wasn't aware anyone really remembered either band at this point.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:53 (nineteen years ago) link

in a decade that saw 3 Kylie albums better than Kid A I'm not sure about the man's argument up there (and I sort oflike Radiohead!)

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:55 (nineteen years ago) link

People still remember Gwyneth Paltrow = people still remember Coldplay (also Coldplay has had more top 40 succes and more MTV backing = more Coldplay on the oldies station circa 2024)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I agree w/ Dan minus the 15 year part (meaning the people who watch WB shows featuring coldplay soundtracks way outnumber the spin reading indie/alt crowd. (ps I like radiohead quite a bit, but kid A didn't make my list.) (pps i like some coldplay songs too)

xpost ned beat me to it

bnw (bnw), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:58 (nineteen years ago) link

my hope is that in ten years someone's faulty memory mistakes Stereolab for Radiohead and are pleasantly surprised by their error.

Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 27 August 2004 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

(Dan plays the test of time card! [but in a parenthetical?])
more people != "it's better", of course, and it's not like plenty of people won't remember Radiohead, so why even point it out?

comme personne (common_person), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:00 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude, I hate Coldplay with a burning passion! My argument is not at all "Coldplay is better than Radiohead"; it's "People, let's not grossly overestimate the importance of these types of exercises."

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:03 (nineteen years ago) link

carry on

comme personne (common_person), Friday, 27 August 2004 18:09 (nineteen years ago) link

A quick sketch of what Radiohead's rep might yet be another decade or so from now -- a bit like, say, Iron Maiden now, or the Cure or Depeche if you like. Their new songs aren't getting the airplay they used to or else are getting the same airplay they always had (ie, none), they might not sell out the venues they used to but they still pull a crowd, they record, they perform, they tour, it's what they do every so often even though in many ways they don't have to any more. The back catalogue still sells (or is shared or something), everyone's got their own spot now, outside interests are taking hold, Ed's opened the restaurant, Johnny scores more films on the side, etc.

But like those other bands I cited just now, what's also going to happen is that that new people will keep discovering them and their shows are always going to have a big chunk of the crowd be folks for whom it's their first or second ever show. They grew up on it thanks to their older siblings, they found it on their own and now that they're not really talked about much anymore they love it as a private obsession, they're always part of a 'new' generation that keeps a certain obsessive flame alive. Sure, there are other bands that they might like more, more recent, but those bands are also the ones open about how they formed because they played the hell out of The Number of the Beast or Violator or Kid A when they were younger.

And people might ask themselves why it is that 'the kids' or a subsection of them would enjoy something so cultish and so limited and so not-pop, say, and figure it was just brainwashing or peer pressure or an innate conservatism among most listeners. Or they might not ask themselves that, because maybe there was no need to ask the question in the first place.

Maybe.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Is it too obvious to say their rep will be akin to Pink Floyd's?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:05 (nineteen years ago) link

I really wish I'd voted. It would have made a difference. Dagnabbit.

CeCe Peniston (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:13 (nineteen years ago) link

No, that seems pretty right. Maybe more like ELO.
xpost

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

Bravo, Ned.

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Why didn't I speak my mind earlier today and declare Kid A the winner?

Well done, Steve. Loved the buildup inbetween, watching people be worng about Rooty vs Kish Kash and the excellent Avalanches stuff ('Etoh'/'Summer Crane' would definitely have replaced 'Frontier Psychiatrist' in my recommendations, and the early trifekta that ends with 'A Different Feeling' is almost as good as the 'Etoh'-onwards final stretch).

Ah, fun time.

R.I.M.A. (Barima), Friday, 27 August 2004 19:26 (nineteen years ago) link

i told you not to underestimate the silent majority

jess (dubplatestyle), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:04 (nineteen years ago) link

I'd guess "common people" would be the no. 1 single - or is this me thinking with my heart rather than my head?

Top five with maybe a one in three chance at #1, I'd say. I can't think of a more likely choice at this point.

Andrew Unterberger (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

next week: the 90s!

Hoo-ray! I've already got my nominees...

ALBUM: Bjork, Homogenic
TRACK: Nuyorican Soul, "It's Alright, I Feel It!"

(no way am I risking obvious choices on the off-chance someone else will nominate them, only to see no one nominate them.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i told you not to underestimate the silent majority

Now I feel like a radical cleric.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 27 August 2004 20:51 (nineteen years ago) link

what happened to ILM's rap contingent? and what happened to TI???

Symplistic (shmuel), Friday, 27 August 2004 21:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Eh? There are like six hip-hop albums in the top 20.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I count three (and one is extremely contentious.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 22:32 (nineteen years ago) link

hi. :|

Richard K., Saturday, 28 August 2004 06:56 (nineteen years ago) link

ha ha , its like when the Today program on Radio 4 organised a vote to choose a new law, or change to the law, which they would push to get enacted and the public voted for a law allowing you to kill any intruders in your home.

Its been great fun to follow. Thanks for alll the hard work Stevem!

Bidfurd, Saturday, 28 August 2004 09:08 (nineteen years ago) link

1. Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
2. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
3. The Streets - Original Pirate Material (2002)
4. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner (2003)
5. The Avalanches - Since I Left You (2001)
6. Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash (1008)
7. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free (983)
8. Jay-Z - The Blueprint (948)
9. Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights (904)
10. Basement Jaxx - Rooty (830)
11. Radiohead - Amnesiac (804)
12. Radiohead - Hail To The Thief (751)
13. Kanye West - The College Dropout (703)
14. Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (682)
15. Boredoms - Vision Creation Newsun (681)
16. Belle & Sebastian - Dear Catastrophe Waitress (679)
17. Missy Elliott - Miss E...So Addictive (573)
18. Boards Of Canada - Geogaddi (566)
19. The Rapture - Echoes (554)
20. PJ Harvey - Stories From The City Stories From The Sea (545)
21. The Junior Boys - Last Exit (536)
22. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP (529)
23. The White Stripes - Elephant (517)
24. Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun (513)
25. Ghostface Killah - Supreme Clientele (494)
26. N.E.R.D. - In Search Of... (486)
27. The Notwist - Neon Golden (479)
28. Broken Social Scene - You Forgot It In People (469)
29. The Yeah Yeah Yeahs - Fever To Tell (466)
30. Sleater-Kinney - One Beat (465)
31. The Fiery Furnaces - Gallowsbird Bark (440)
32. Justin Timberlake - Justified (437)
33. Le Tigre - Le Tigre (436)
34. Fugazi - The Argument (403)
35. Broadcast - Haha Sound (401)
36. Lambchop - Nixon (398)
37. Primal Scream - XTRMNTR (398)
38. Fennesz - Endless Summer (394)
39. The Scissor Sisters - The Scissor Sisters (381)
40. Cat Power - You Are Free (365)
41. Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein (364)
42. The Clientele - Suburban Light (3??)
43. Low - Things We Lost In The Fire (352)
44. Richard X presents - X-Factor Vol. 1 (337)
45. Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven (337)
46. Bubba Sparxxx - Deliverance (335)
47. Luomo - Vocalcity (327)
48. Ladytron - Light And Magic (326)
49. Life Without Buildings - Any Other City (321)
50. Felix Da Housecat - Kittenz And Thee Glitz (311)
51. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists - Hearts Of Oak (305)
52. Lifter Puller - Fiestas & Fiascos (293)
53. The New Pornographers - Mass Romantic (289)
54. Mclusky - Mclusky Do Dallas (286)
55. Andrew WK - I Get Wet (280)
56. The Beta Band - Hot Shots II (279)
57. Royksopp - Melody AM (276)
58. Aaliyah - Aaliyah (275)
59. The RZA/Various Artists - Ghost Dog: The Way Of The Samurai (OST) (270)
60. The Liars - They Threw Us All In A Trench And Stuck A Monument On Top (266)
61. Lightning Bolt - Wonderful Rainbow (265)
62. Sonic Youth - Murray Street (265)
63. Madvillain - Madvillainy (264)
64. Sufjan Stevens - Greetings From Michigan (264)
65. Big & Rich - Horse Of A Different Colour (263)
66. Cornelius - Point (262)
67. Goldfrapp - Black Cherry (254)
68. Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator) (252)
69. Ghostface - The Pretty Toney Album (252)
70. The Fall - The Real New Fall LP (245)
71. Gorky's Zygotic Mynci - How I Long To Feel The Summer In My Heart (227)
72. Shellac - 1000 Hurts (227)
73. Spoon - Kill The Moonlight (221)
74. Sonic Youth - Sonic Nurse (218)
75. The New Pornographers - Electric Version (214)
76. Michael Mayer presents - Immer (214)
77. The Wrens - The Meadowlands (210)
78. Junior Senior - D-d-don't Stop The Beat (209)
79. D'Angelo - Voodoo (209)
80. New Order - Get Ready (207)
81. Atmosphere - Lucy Ford (206)
82. Xiu Xiu - Knife Play (204)
83. Stephen Malkmus & The Jicks - Pig Lib (202)
84. Queens Of The Stone Age - Rated R (191)
85. Stephen Malkmus - Stephen Malkmus (191)
86. Calexico - Feast Of Wire (186)
87. Hot Snakes - Automatic Midnight (176)
88. The Exploding Hearts - Guitar Romantic (172)
89. Mogwai - Rock Action (170)
90. Johnny Greenwood - Bodysong (OST) (168)
91. The Microphones - The Glow (Part 2) (167)
92. Low - Trust (163)
93. The Delgados - Hate (162)
94. Goldfrapp - Felt Mountain (160)
95. David Banner - Mississippi: The Album (160)
96. Emma Bunton - Free Me (157)
97. Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker (156)
98. Wiley - Treddin' On Thin Ice (155)
99. Bob Dylan - Love And Theft (153)
100. Max Tundra - Mastered By Guy At The Exchange (144)


101. Villalobos - Alcahofa (143)
102. Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You (143)
103. Ted Leo & The Pharmacists - The Tyranny Of Distance (142)
104. Camera Obscura - Underachievers Please Try Harder (139)
105. Stars Of The Lid - The Tired Sounds Of Stars Of The Lid (137)
106. Smog - Dongs Of Sevotion (137)
107. Rufus Wainwright - Want One (136)
108. Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Cast Of - Once More With Feeling (OST) (133)
109. Bersuit Vergabarat - Hijos Del Culo (127)
110. Saturday Looks Good To Me - All Your Summer Songs (120)
111. The Walkmen - Everybody Who Pretended To Like Me Has Gone (119)
112. Lawrence - The Absence Of Blight (119)
113. Wire - Send (117)
114. Oneida - Each One Teach One (117)
115. Spoon - Girls Can Tell (116)
116. Ellen Allien - Weissmix (116)
117. Super Furry Animals - Rings Around The World (114)
118. David Sylvain - Blemish (114)
119. Fog - Ether Teeth (113)
120. The Mountain Goats - All Hail West Texas (110)
121. DJ Rupture - Minesweeper Suite (109)
122. M83 - M83 (104)
123. Akufen - My Way (103)
124. Cassette Boy - The Parker Tapes (102)
125. British Sea Power - The Decline Of British Sea Power (93)
126. Nellie McKay - Get Away From Me (91)
127. TI - Trap Muzik (91)
128. Blonde Redhead - Melody Of Certain Damaged Lemons (90)
129. Underworld - A Hundred Days Off (88)
130. PJ Harvey - Uh Huh Her (88)
131. The Bees - Sunshine Hit Me (85)
132. Okkervil River - Don't Fall In Love With Everyone You See (81)
133. Desaparecidos - Read Music/Speak Spanish (80)
134. Mission Of Burma - Onoffon (79)
135. Spray - Living In Neon (78)
136. Kaito - Special Love (74)
137. Blak Twang - Kik Off (70)
138. John Fahey - Red Cross (69)
139. Avey Tare & Panda Bear - Spirit They've Gone, Spirit They've Vanished (69)
140. The Futureheads - The Futureheads (64)
141. The Liars - They Were Wrong, So We Drowned (63)
142. Cave In - Jupiter (61)
143. Various Artists - Lord Of The Decks: The Fellowship Of The Mic (61)
144. Converge - Jane Doe (58)
145. Saian Supa Crew - X-Raisons (57)
146. Soft Pink Truth - Do You Party? (55)
147. Drive-By Truckers - Southern Rock Opera (54)
148. Miss Kittin - I Com
149. Jandek - The Gone Wait (50)
150. Eve - Eve-O-Lution (47)
151. The Deadly Snakes - Ode To Joy (45)
152. Beaumont - This Is Beaumont (45)
153. The Montgolfier Brothers - The World Is Flat (45)
154. Killing Joke - Killing Joke (44)
155. Kristin Hersh - Sunny Border Blue (42)
156. Stephen Jones - Almost Cured Of Sadness (42)
157. Crydamoure presents - Waves (40)
158. My Favorite - The Happiest Days Of Our Lives (38)
159. Comets On Fire - Field Recordings From The Sun (36)
160. The Wrangler Brutes - The Wrangler Brutes (32)
161. The Cure - The Cure (31)
162. Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope (26)
163. Xiu Xiu - A Promise (23)
164. Rancid - Rancid (20)
165. Fennesz - Live In Japan (16)
166. Solomon Burke - Don't Give Up On Me (14)
167. Joy Zipper - American Whip (14)
168. The Mountain Goats - The Coroner's Gambit (13)
169. Bangkok Impact - Traveller (10)
170. Bark Psychosis - Codename: Dustsucker (9)
171. Amon Tobin - Out From Out Where (8)
172. Anti-Pop Consortium - Tragic Epilogue (7)
173. Raphael Saddiq - Instant Vintage (7)
174. Neurosis - A Sun That Never Sets (7)
175. DJ Krush - Zen (5)
176. Neurosis/Jarboe - Neurosis/Jarboe (3)
177. Girl Talk - Unstoppable (1)
178. Destroyer - Your Blues (-1)
179. Smashing Pumpkins - Machina: The Machines Of God (-11)
180. 50 Cent - Get Rich Or Die Tryin' (-16)

Unranked (albums which did not receive a single vote):

A Frames - A Frames
Absu - Tara
Cul De Sac - Death Of The Sun
Dean Roberts - Be Mine Tonight
Devin The Dude - Just Tryin' Ta Live
Gogogo Airheart - Exitheuxa
Juniper Moon - El Resto Di Mi VIda
The Loud Family - Attractive Nuisance
Mira - Apart
Trance To The Sun - Atrocious Virgin

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:12 (nineteen years ago) link

wow that 101 -> is really fascinating. Villalobos, just missed it. My number one (and nomination) just a few behind. Blemish at 114, for crying out loud. Really good stuff like Bangkok Impact and Bark Psychosis with one vote (presumably). I'll take that 101-> list over the top 100 anyday.

Fanstastic, Stevem. Hero!

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Even more amazing: Joy Zipper and Anti-Pop Consortium with 14 votes and 7 votes each! wow!

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 28 August 2004 10:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Good work Steve!

Sorry I never voted, I've only heard around 15 of the nominated albums and half of them I wasn't particularly fond of...

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:34 (nineteen years ago) link

DEMOCRACY JUST DOESN'T WORK

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Even more amazing: Joy Zipper and Anti-Pop Consortium with 14 votes and 7 votes each! wow!

Hang on, amazingly low number of points for those two, or amazing that they got any points? (I honestly can't tell!) Several of the Anti-Pop points were from me, I think.

And yeah, very nice work Stevem!

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:49 (nineteen years ago) link

Amazingly Low i meant!

jed_ (jed), Saturday, 28 August 2004 11:53 (nineteen years ago) link

the world is flat only got my number one vote! i knew mark tranmer and roger quigley did this album only for me! phantastic!

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Saturday, 28 August 2004 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Immense credit to Steve for doing all this, and although it seems odd to say this when I think half of the top ten were in my 15 (didn't keep my list), and only one of my votes (from memory) fell outside the 100 (Underworld), reading through this has only confirmed me in my current practice of not visiting ILM. Too much of the sort of music I find sucks the joy and energy from my life. The ILM zeitgeist is too far from my own tastes and feelings. (And because I am on a dialup and don't download, all the discussion about stuff I am interested in tends to be done and dusted before I've heard the tunes.)

Oh, thanks for running my Eninem comments - they were dashed off notes to you, rather than anything studied for reprinting here, but they read okay to me, so I'm happy.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 28 August 2004 22:02 (nineteen years ago) link

154. Killing Joke - Killing Joke (44)

Is anyone else surpised this didn't get a round 45 points?

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Saturday, 28 August 2004 23:16 (nineteen years ago) link

me, for one.

also: I am shocked simply shocked that Hijos del Culo ended up at #109, I gave it 45 but that leaves 82 votes unaccounted for. Who else voted for this brilliant masterwork? I MUST KNOW SO I CAN SHOWER YOU WITH DIAMONDS AND PEARLS.

Begs2Differ (Begs2Differ), Sunday, 29 August 2004 00:16 (nineteen years ago) link

179. Smashing Pumpkins - Machina: The Machines Of God (-11)

awesome

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Sunday, 29 August 2004 03:54 (nineteen years ago) link

you are so busted

Worst of all, I'm starting to like Pavement.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 29 August 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link

108. Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Cast Of - Once More With Feeling (OST) (133)

Damn you hate votes. If this hadn't got 4 hate votes, it would have ended up somewhere in the 80's

I did think the hate votes counting as negative points was the worst idea about this poll, even before this outrage.

I thought the nominations process was a great idea, much more interesting than an open poll, and the whole thing has been highly entertaining. Much thanks to Stevem.

Joe Kay (feethurt), Monday, 30 August 2004 10:03 (nineteen years ago) link

(in a perfect world the Buffy soundtrack would have traded places with Smashing Pumpkins)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 30 August 2004 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link

dammit i wish i had been here to vote, i coulda pushed Tyranny of Distance into the top 100.

Josh Love (screamapillar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:24 (nineteen years ago) link

in a perfect world the Buffy soundtrack would have traded places with Smashing Pumpkins

Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I would've voted for Hijos de Culo but I hadn't even HEARD IT YET when I voted. :(

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

I just noticed nobody voted for my nomination, the Devin album. Nobody to blame but myself since I didn't vote but what a shame! That's a brill album.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 23:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I also forgot to vote, but will take this whole thing as a listening list. Awesome.

Pete Scholtes, Wednesday, 1 September 2004 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Just one more vote for Stars of the Lid and what could have been . . .

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 2 September 2004 01:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Since I live in a rockist world 'IRL', I was pretty surprised at Daft Punk's really high ranking, and realized I bought it when it came out but didn't listen much past the first few tracks. Now I've pulled it out and have been listening to it non-stop for a week- great album!! Thanks.

Richard K (Richard K), Friday, 3 September 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

too bad it's not even remotely iconic :(

comme personne (common_person), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Who else voted for Spray who else voted for Spray who else voted for Spray? There are 33 points not accounted for...

Alex in Doncaster (Alex in Doncaster), Friday, 3 September 2004 20:57 (nineteen years ago) link

that's a really, really white top 200.

i like an awful lot of the records on it, including the #1. i admire the incredible amount of work that went into it. i did not participate, not for any aesthetic or political reasons, but simply because i'm too lazy. and i quite enjoyed reading through it. so i don't mean this as criticism, just as observation and question:

it's just really, really white. and i'm wondering what makes it all that different from all the other lists (rolling stone, q, vill voice, etc) that we constantly carp about? what makes this one any less carpable?

fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 3 September 2004 21:01 (nineteen years ago) link

"white"?

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Friday, 3 September 2004 23:29 (nineteen years ago) link

number 2 should be sung tongs.

seahorse genius (seahorse genius), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:28 (nineteen years ago) link

it's just really, really white. and i'm wondering what makes it all that different from all the other lists (rolling stone, q, vill voice, etc) that we constantly carp about? what makes this one any less carpable?

I think it's still Emma Bunton.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:31 (nineteen years ago) link

"white"?

count the number of non-white people in the top 100. see how many hands it takes.

count the number of acts in the top 100 whose fans aren't primarily white.

etc.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Saturday, 4 September 2004 00:36 (nineteen years ago) link

but you say it as though it's a pejorative and not a simple observation.

amateur!!!st (amateurist), Saturday, 4 September 2004 02:47 (nineteen years ago) link

1. Radiohead - Kid A (2000)
2. Daft Punk - Discovery (2001)
3. The Streets - Original Pirate Material (2002)
4. Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da Corner (2003)
5. The Avalanches - Since I Left You (2001)
6. Basement Jaxx - Kish Kash (1008)
7. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free (983)
8. Jay-Z - The Blueprint (948)
9. Interpol - Turn On The Bright Lights (904)
10. Basement Jaxx - Rooty (830)
etc

Does anybody spot something odd about this list?

Joe Kay (feethurt), Saturday, 4 September 2004 10:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, I hadn't seen this until today. There are some horrid things in the top ten. Of all the people that ILM obsesses over, Daft Punk and the Avalanches are assuredly the most boring, so I don't understand why they're ahead of Basement Jaxx, Missy etc.

It's a very very male-dominated list, especially near the top. Not as male-dominated as most 'canonical' lists but still, not a single girl in the top ten, wtf!

The Lex (The Lex), Saturday, 4 September 2004 11:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Does anybody spot something odd about this list?

Heh heh. Dizzee is the real winner!

Vasquesz, Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:16 (nineteen years ago) link

FUCK A STREETS FUCK A RADIOHEAD FUCK AN ILX

NO BOREDOMS AT NUMBER 1 = YOU ARE A BUNCH OF THOME YORK MOTHERFUCKER DOUCHEBAGS

MATH BLASTER MYSTERY! (ex machina), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I noticed it, but thought the organiser had been given enough hassle by then.

Alba (Alba), Saturday, 4 September 2004 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
WOW

Senor Embargo (blueski), Wednesday, 6 October 2004 18:04 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
toptoptop top20002004 top20002004albums

a banana (alanbanana), Wednesday, 17 November 2004 23:33 (nineteen years ago) link


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