Search and Destroy : New Order

Destroy: Republic. (Yuck...)

Destroy -- any and all Revenge discs you find.

Destroy: "Ruined In A Day", "Spooky", "World", as drab a series of singles as any past-it band have let slide out - and after "Regret", too!

Search -- Technique, seeing as every song is great Destroy -- (the best of) New Order: chronological sequencing produces miserable conclusion, except for "Blue Monday" inexplicably made penultimate, and what's with all the dumb remixes??

Destroy: the album version of "Subculture", which is far and away the worst thing they've ever recorded. Honorable mention to "Pineapple Face" by Revenge for being incomprehensible.

When it comes to destroy, it has to be said that "World in Motion" is the worst song recorded by anyone.

EVER.

It almost makes latter day Bryan Adams look cool. The utterly craptastic lyric "Arivaderci it's one on one" alone would qualify it for the honor.

Destroy: Yeah some of those songs on Republic were really cringeworthy, though I think all the other singles are relatively okay.

Destroy:most of the remixes of their songs as they are just poor. Special mention goes to the wonderfully useless Arman van Heldan (?) mix of bizarre love triangle.

"World In Motion" may be a largely useless song, but at least it's sung in tune. I have no idea how much Bernard had been drinking before he recorded the vocals for "Subculture", but let's hope he never ever drinks that much again.

I'm sitting here gritting my teeth just thinking about it...

Destroy: 'Blue Monday', horrifically dull and inexplicable showered with praise.

Destroy: NEW ORDER

But many more could be named, especially in the first category.

destroy: blue monday

Brotherhood side one

Ceremony (the 7" is much better than the version on Substance)

Temptation (the original 12" is much better than the version on Substance)

Sister Ray (live in Rio, from 'Like A Girl I Want You to Keep Coming' one of John Giorno's crappy beatnik compilations)

Destroy:

Republic

the shit cd quality of Brotherhood, Low-Life and Technique

Destroy: (the best of) New Order [English version]

BUT I sort of half-dislike it too, because all the people I know who think "Age of Consent" is their best song are people who despise all of the dancier stuff.

Discuss.

It's probably because Joy Division is such good summertime music.

* Destroy: "State of the Nation" in any and all its mutations/versions... it's so tacky/sucky

* Search "Don't do it" and "Bleachboy"

* Ssearch "Rest of NewOrder" * Destroy "Best of NewOrder"

I am so sure that there are people who will say "That dude Ci got it all wrong!"

By the way people... English is my third language... how do you Anglonauts say it anyways? Is it "Search and Destroy" or "Seek and Destroy." I opt or the "Seek and Destroy."

Cheers

Ci

Also search: 1981/1982 (brilliant), "Doubts Even Here," "Dreams Never End," "The Village," "Regret," the melody (or the Frente cover) of "Bizarre Love Triangle"

Destroy: the vocoder track on PCL, the "three miles to go" song, "Blue Monday," the rest of Republic. Joy Division did "Ceremony" better. I could live without "In a Lonely Place."

so so true... sorry, so late. just wanted a check in the tally column.

... at least that's what I think it's called...

knew it had 'Point' in the title. Kind of epic filmic New Order with a groovy baseline.

Thank you.

Don't give me that, you crazy punk. You cannot live without the versions of "Temptation," "Ceremony," "Blue Monday," "Thieves Like Us," "The Perfect Kiss," "Bizarre Love Triangle" and "True Faith" on the first disc, among other things -- the second disc gilds the lily, making it even more so all around. :-)

Keith, you are certifiable. The only album New Order has released which is better than _Get Ready_ is _Movement_.

http://www.neworderonline.com/mmedia.asp

Search: Get Ready, and about everything else especially Technique just for Dream Attack, their very best song.

Destroy: As It Is When It Was on Brotherhood, a piece of shit with the most inconstant rhythm I have ever heard. And I don't like Technique's Run, it's simply irritating. The remixes of the Low Life songs on Substance pale to the originals.

I've only heard technique and i like it. an excellent record.

DESTROY: the original versions of "Temptation" and "Confusion", the version of "Confusion" that's on the Blade soundtrack, that song with Billy Corgan on Get Ready, The Rest of New Order, and disc three of Retro.

destroy: everything after "regret", including from track 2 of republic.

(in less charitable moods i would say destroy everything after "ceremony", but that's to judge them by its unfairly high standards)

Destroy: "World in Motion," "Shell-Shock."

I don't know as I'd destroy anything, but the songs that just sit on the I & IV chords are the only ones I care much about.

Oh yes it is. Trust me.

Nothing recorded by either can touch "1963" or "Doubts Even Here", though.

?????? god help us all

"Bizarre Love Triangle" is one of my fave singles evah.

I'd certainly avoid 90% of the remixes as well (via The Rest of and elsewhere).

god i love new order so very very much it almost physically hurts.

is john denver really credited in the brackets after 'run 2' on the best of sleeve or is someone having me on ?

How come no one has mentioned Thieves Like Us yet? (Surely the best single made be anyone ever etc)

'Mesh' on Substance is in fact Cries and Whispers - they mis-titled it.

Digital
Disorder
Insight
New Dawn Fades
She's Lost Control
Shadowplay
Wilderness
Interzone
Transmission
Something Must Break
Dead Souls
Love Will Tear Us Apart (single a-side vers.)
Isolation
A Means to an End
Heart and Soul
Twenty Four Hours
Decades
Love Will Tear Us Apart (Peel Session vers.)
Ceremony (from Still)

(pretty straightforward and tidy, I wanted Ceremony on the end to point the way to the future).

--------------------------------
New Order 'portable' disc1 80:56

Ceremony (re-recorded vers from FAC 33T/Substance)
Temptation (5/87 from Substance)
Blue Monday (12" vers. from Substance)
Confusion (5/87 from Substance)
Thieves Like Us
Sub-culture (Robie remix from Substance)
Perfect Kiss (extended vers. from Substance)
True Faith
1963 (94 edit from Best Of)
Fine Time
Round & Round
Run
Regret

(the first disc in my 'three histories' of New Order. It's my dream Substance disc1, with the singles from Technique and "Regret" tacked on - oh! and 1963 which is not the remix, but just a slightly shorter edit of the original. Oh and I LOVE the "Sub-culture" remix).

--------------------------------
New Order 'portable' disc2 80:38

Everything's Gone Green
Dreams Never End
Age of Consent
Love Vigilantes
ShellShock (12" vers.)
Paradise
Weirdo
Broken Promise
State of the Nation (12" vers.)
Blue Monday 1988
All the Way
Love Less
Guilty Partner
Vanishing Point
Dream Attack
World in Motion (single mix)
World (The Price of Love)
Ruined in a Day

(covers additional singles and favorite album tracks and most of the additional tracks from 'Technique')

--------------------------------
New Order 'portable' disc3 80:51

586
Your Silent Face
Sub-culture (album vers.)
Sunrise
Elegia (album vers.)
As It Is When It Was
All Day Long
Mr. Disco
Spooky
Everyone Everywhere
Young Offender
Avalanche
Crystal (radio edit)
60 Miles an Hour
Close Range
Run Wild
Here to Stay (radio edit)

(essential odds-n-ends and my faves from 'Get Ready')

side order 'portable' New Order side projects 78:04

Electronic - Getting Away With It (extended vers.)
Electronic - Get the Message (album vers.)
Electronic - Idiot Country
Electronic - Reality
Electronic - Tighten Up
Electronic - Feel Every Beat
Electronic - Disappointed (single mix)
Electronic - Forbidden City
Electronic - For You
Electronic - One Day
Electronic - Second Nature
The Other Two - Tasty Fish (album vers.)
The Other Two - Selfish (The Single Mix)
The Other Two - Selfish (That Pop Mix)
Monaco - What Do You Want from Me?
Monaco - Happy Jack

(surprisingly strong, I find I listen to this quite a bit. This disc generously pretends that Revenge never happened! also 'Twisted Tenderness' is absent and the last Other Two album which I haven't even heard. The second Monaco album is ignored because I don't remember anything from it).
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I love these CDs probably more than any non-person thing.

scott said about 15 months ago:
Ceremony (the 7" is much better than the version on Substance)
so so true... sorry, so late. just wanted a check in the tally column.

-- gygax! (gygax0r@...), September 26th, 2002 8:05 PM.

IMHO, the finest thing they ever did. i have a pristine rip if you're interested.

7": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [gold sleeve]

4:34 Ceremony
4:35 In A Lonely Place

12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [green sleeve]

4:34 Ceremony
6:12 In A Lonely Place


12": UK 1981 (Factory FAC 33) [cream/blue sleeve] *

4:22 Ceremony **
6:12 In A Lonely Place

* Matrix indicates Side A as FAC 33 A2. Possibly catalogued as FAC 33T.
** Re-recorded when Gill joined the Band. This is the substance version, I think. Not sure what version is on the box-set. Will check tonight.

Also search the 7" of Shame of the Nation (Shame was better than State, but the shorter version of Shame was, I think, the finest of the NO tracks that hardly anyone's heard.)

I think that's right - also some import versions might have the *wrong* sleeve.

It's definitely the Gill version on Substance, also on the Palatine box - it's bugging me that I can't remember which one is on Retro.

Not really fair, since it was never intended for proper release.

I'm listening right now, and if I let my guard down a little bit, it's actually rather--no! these melodies are awful! Gah!

Destroy: "Ruined In A Day", "Spooky", "World", as drab a series of singles as any past-it band have let slide out - and after "Regret", too!

Of these, "World" is the one I found to be saved by a remix. The Perfecto Edit perks this track right up and ended up being used for the video.

If it's not cheating to Search some non New Order tracks, then The title track of Electronic's Twisted Tenderness, the title track of The Other Two's Superhighways and Monaco's What Do You Want From Me are three of the best not-really-new-order new order songs ever.

Here To Stay was a better song than anyone could have ever expected from them at that stage in the game. It pisses all over anything from Get Ready, and that wasn't even a bad album.

Destroy: Fine Time. It almost ruins Technique. It's the only NO song I don't like.

Everything else is fabulous.

but the confusion instrumental is amazing and great!

GETTING ALONG FAMOUSLY

GWEN STEFANI has roped in NEW ORDER and ANDRE 3000 for her long-awaited solo album.

NME.COM has heard ‘Love Angel Music Baby’ (LAMB), which is released on November 22 through Interscope, and the record sees the No Doubt singer united with a host of famous friends.

New Order’s Bernard Sumner and Peter Hook – who are hard at work on their own follow-up to 2001's ‘Get Ready’ – provide guitar and bass on the track ‘Real Thing’, which was co-written by Linda Perry (Christina Aguilera / Pink) and produced by Nellee Hooper (Bjork / Massive Attack).

destroy: fine time (i just can't stand this track. it really isn't funny!)

Linda Perry?!? Say it isn't so...

(Fine Time is indeed brilliant.)

Linda Perry, source of all that is bad and wrong and stinky and mean and horrible and terrible and yech. Sorry, am I not clear?

(nb do not do an image search for "bizarro" if you are at work and you don't have Google Safe Search turned on... EW)

And yeah, "Fine Time" is incredibly brilliant. I didn't know that was even in question.

Oh, and I hated... HA-HATED 'Fine Time' when I first heard it. Now I love it.

There is actually quite a lot of NO that's not all that hot. But when they get it right...Oooh, boy!!!!

. . .

Okay, so update based on Waiting -- I'd include "Guilt is a Useless Emotion," "Krafty" and the title track as definite searches now.

General question, meanwhile -- picked up the 81 NYC/Reading 98 DVD yesterday at last, and noticed there was a Finsbury Park 2002 DVD as well. That any good? And besides that and NewOrderStory, are those the only current official DVDs?

Whoa, this is new to me -- what is this exactly?

The cover is one of Saville's most beautiful:
ihttp://www.niagara.edu/neworder/graphics/pumpedfront.jpg

Really didn't like New Order Story much at all. Too slick, even downright stupid at times.

Neworderstory is a stone cold classic just for the scenes when they bring Tony Wilson on "The NO Show", resulting in a series of squirm-in-your-chair scenes as he trades insults with the band and you're not sure whether they're taking the piss or opening up the silos of resentment they have against each other (the answer, of course, is both).

I'll just say this: their total lack of...energy on camera just makes the music seem all that much more incredible. They are so completely bored looking, nonchalant, just doing their job, whatever. No rock personalities. Ha ha, I watch them on this thing and I think "look how bored these people look, as if they have no idea that they are creating some of the most brilliant music planet earth has ever known" I mean you wouldn't exactly say it was loaded with on-stage banter or rock theatrics or even palpable PASSION on their faces, would you?

I came to fall in love with some of the versions of songs on that thing.

As for the S&D, I accidentally listened to the Low-Life version of Subculture recently. How the hell did that even make it on the album?

- the proto-metal, wide-eyed, staring-into-the-abyss thrash that is "denial".

- the LOOK that barney gives gillian when she fucks up the arpeggio on "ceremony".

- barney coming up on his trip [1] right at the end ... during that fucking blinding proto-everything-that-happened-next-in-the-world-ever version of "temptation", grabbing at his microphone stand, missing, looking at it in horror, then just carrying on ranting. how does it go? "people. like people. like me" or something. ah!

- that proto-everything-that-happened-next-in-the-world-ever version of "temptation" in general.

hoo god, i want to watch it right now.

[1] this is what i heard, anyway: that barney took a tab before the gig and by the end he's tripping his tits off. i want to believe it, even if it's bollocks.

Hahaha. Okay you really are going to make me play it now.

It is NTSC, but it is also Region 2. Keep that in mind, you'll need a way to play a Region 2 disc.

Erm. I suspect the problem might not be with the song, dude.

I actually prefer "Touched by the Hand of God": even better bass, breathy chorus.

http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2FM4IWTLQI3XW1M3T9PMTXSCXU

And you lose, Rob da Bank. Get one Google.

Yes, but I still want his money. I am greedy.

Hahahaha!
"Yeah theives like us/baby we were born to..."

The first version has never been available on CD, even though it is much the better of the two, but it will be included on Singles, due out in a couple of weeks.

New Order, Excerpts From Recycle @ 192kps

Ignore def #3.

have you guys heard the mix of Everything's Gone Green on the 7"s? it's fantastic!!!

i can gmail but don't have time to upload to YSI. I've got all 3 7"s recorded and mp3'd. only 3 of the 6 tracks are worth having.

biz did you post as biznotic love trapezoid on neworderonline?

so what's going on? is that richard x thing, and all this coming out in a massive remix thing soon? (sorry, long thread, haven't taken it all in)

if not, er, let me know.

The Records That Changed My Life: Bernard Sumner of New Order

By: Adrienne Day

July 4, 2005

Bernard Sumner, founding member of Joy Division and New Order, might have blazed a path for generations of angsty dance-punk bands, but he still finds inspiration in rock's glory days.

"I picked the records I got before I became a musician, because I listened to music in a completely different way then," he says. "We just spent seven months making a new record [Waiting for the Sirens' Call], and the last thing you want to do is hear music when you come out of the studio after a 14-hour day."

Ennio Morricone, A Fistful of Dollars: Original Soundtrack (RCA, 1967)
"I grew up in a house without a record player. I wasn't that interested in music. Then I got to the age of 15, 16, and I became completely obsessed with it. My mother finally bought me a player, and the first single I ever bought was 'Ride a White Swan' by T. Rex. But I got fed up with having to get up and put it back on. I thought, 'This is shit, I need to buy an album,' but I didn't know where to start. Then I saw The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, and I was blown away by Morricone's music."

Jimi Hendrix, Electric Ladyland (MCA, 1968)
"I remember there was this kid at school who was a bit of a hippie, and he loved Jimi Hendrix. I said to him, 'It just sounds like a lot of guitar noise,' and he stared at me and said, 'I like it.' So I went out and bought it, played it, just a lot of noise, played it, just a lot of noise -- and then all of the sudden my musical horizon went up a notch, and I really got into Hendrix. It was really weird, like a 'Road to Damascus' moment."

The Rolling Stones, Through the Past Darkly (Big Hits, Vol. 2) (ABKCO, 1969)
"I love the Stones; they've got this kind of raw, nasty, unpolished edge. For a while they got sort of countrified and a bit American sounding, and I didn't like that period, but the early, English-sounding stuff, 'Sympathy for the Devil' and '2,000 Light Years From Home,' I really like."

Roxy Music, Stranded (Virgin, 1973)
"I got a bit older and started going to nightclubs. One club in Manchester was called Pips, and they used to play stuff like Roxy Music. At the time it sounded like nothing you had ever heard before. It had a really fresh sound."

Lou Reed, Transformer (RCA, 1972)
"Another album they played at Pips was Lou Reed's Transformer, which has got a great track on it called 'Vicious.' It was considered a dance track in those days. I loved the riff in it -- dead simple. They're the hardest songs to write, simple songs. You've got to get yourself in the right frame of mind in order to write them."

Led Zeppelin, Led Zeppelin IV (Atlantic, 1971)
"At school we had a hip geography teacher. He'd tell us that if we paid attention in class, during break time he'd let us use the record player. He used to bring in his records, and one was Led Zeppelin IV. All the kids liked it immediately. It's a corny thing to say, but 'Stairway to Heaven' is a beautiful piece of music."

Iggy Pop, The Idiot (Virgin, 1977)
"I knew Ian Curtis from going to punk gigs. So when we were forming Joy Division, I just gave him the job on the phone. I didn't even listen to him [sing]. When we went around to his house to pick up his PA system, he had 'China Girl' playing. I said, 'Who's this track by?' He said, 'Oh, it's Iggy.' I was like, 'This is fantastic. Bring it to rehearsal tonight, we'll try and rip it up.' So that's how I got to know Ian."

Kraftwerk, Trans-Europe Express (Capitol, 1977)
"Ian Curtis also turned me on to this -- it was revolutionary. We had a record player in the rehearsal room, and people would bring stuff in. We used to play Trans-Europe Express before we went onstage."

Hans Zimmer, The Thin Red Line: Original Soundtrack (RCA, 1998)
"When we owned a nightclub, the Hacienda, we'd just be out all night and then be a mess on Sunday. And after a few years of it and a lot of drug taking, I just got sick of it. So I bought a boat, and now I go sailing every weekend. The biggest place to listen to music is on the boat. And my favorite things to listen to are film soundtracks. They're the opposite of what I make -- they're chilled out."

Player in the League - godlike b-side to Crystal or one of the Get Ready singles that was inexplicably left off of the album.

Get Ready - It may be heresy, but I find this to be their strongest album track-for-track, better than Low-Life, Brotherhood, or Technique. I hate hate hate Smashing Pumpkins, but the awesomeness of New Order somehow even makes Billy Corgan's vocal cameo seem cool.

Regret - duh.

And I quite like the Sub-Culture 12" mix.

Destroy:

Shellshock & State of the Nation - These two tracks seemed like throwaways compared to what came before and after them.

bahahaha!

I just can't believe he said Stairway to Heaven was a beautiful piece of music. I mean that takes the same kind of guts to say that as it does to come out with some of lyrics he does dunnit? That's Barney!

I actually had a similar "aha!" moment with Hendrix about a year ago. Some live version of "Machine Gun".

1) Transmission.
2) She's Lost Control
3) Shadowplay
4) Love Will Tear Us Apart
5) Atmosphere
6) Warsaw

Shadowplay! Warsaw!

I finally got the P.F.D. 1985 Tokyo video for my very own and of course it's flipping my lid. Barney's hair never looked better, I mean he is rocking an impeccable hairstyle, there. The songs are classic, the band is classic, Gillian is classic, Peter Hook needs to explain why he wore such extremely boring sweatpants, though. I mean what??? Where is the leather, man? Where's your IMAGE, right? LOL

Hightlights so far:

Barney actually daring to play bass guitar alongside Hooky on "Confusion"

Barney kicking mic stand in front of the bass drum in rock-and-roll Who style in the middle of "Sunrise".

You know what? I am SICK AND TIRED OF BIZARRE LOVE TRIANGLE.

I am sick and tired of it. If I ask a DJ to play New Order, ANY New Order, and they choose that song??????????????...ARRRRRRRRGH. Let alone the mother fucker at work who only knows ONE New Order song and it's that...I just want to smack him.

Fucking bore me with Blue Monday for the 7 billionth time ANYDAY instead of that damn BLT shit. You know? Bacon, Lettuce, Tomato?

I am SICK AND TIRED OF AMERICANS WHO ONLY KNOW "EVERY TIME I SEE YOU FALLING" AND DUDE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THE SONG OR THE BAND! THAT'S ALL THEY KNOW IS "EVERY TIME I SEE YOU FALLING"

AND IT SUXXXXXSSSSSSSSSSS ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Really, Blue Monday has been overdone to death, I know, but if someone plays me fucking Bizarre Love Triangle again...

That sounds terrible. I hope I never get tired of it - it's one of my favourite songs of all time. Shame Crystal doesn't get played more out.

One thing not mentioned on this thread that I'd search for...

http://www.niagara.edu/neworder/graphics/savillefront.jpg

Peter Saville Show Soundtrack

New Order's other main excursion into the soundtrack (aside from the full length Elegia).

Peter Saville is HAWT.

Only sleeve he didn't design y'know.

He looks like Bryan Ferry to me.

(My current ringtone is Blue Monday, Bimble!)

Heheh. Well that's better than Ozzy's Crazy Train which my coworker drives me nuts with on his ringtone AND in his loud headphones all the time (I mean it's a good song, I know, but...).

I actually have the Peter Saville show soundtrack, burned it to CD-R awhile back. Don't remember thinking much of it, but perhaps I'll pull it out here in a sec when I finish ripping records for my blog.

I am SICK AND TIRED OF AMERICANS WHO ONLY KNOW "EVERY TIME I SEE YOU FALLING" AND DUDE THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THE NAME OF THE SONG OR THE BAND!

But Bim, that means New Order's project worked.

I know...everyone has seen how hilarious this video is...of Barney & Co. dressing up like a late 80's hair metal band. And even I have already seen it, years ago, but I'd forgotten all about it when I saw it played in a club tonight and I want to remind everyone who agrees with me that hair metal sucks ass that this is probably the best video New Order have ever done:

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Also, Bon Jovi can suck my dick, okay?

great video.

Um, I love this video, and I like a lot of hair metal. shrug.

If I ask a DJ to play New Order, ANY New Order, and they choose that song?

"Perfect Kiss" is my go-to New Order song, when New Order is requested. (I am american).

We're playing for England/we're playing this song/arrive derci it's one on one/

I've got the Rocking Carol flexi. I am so much more goth than you, it's not funny.
Did you hear me? I have the New Order Rocking Carol flexi on my hard drive. That means
I am a hell of a lot more goth than you.

rocking carol is shit and you know it.

out loud, to self, before clicking on thread: "bimble woke this up"

also, I saw New Order on the Power Corruption & Lies tour at a place called Billy Barty's Roller Fantasy, they closed w/Ceremony & I now have a pristine copy of the show, so I am more goth than Bimble by half

I've been playing 'World in Motion' again and again lately !!

also, I saw New Order on the Power Corruption & Lies tour at a place called Billy Barty's Roller Fantasy, they closed w/Ceremony & I now have a pristine copy of the show, so I am more goth than Bimble by half

I have this. 'Cries and Whispers' is pretty great. Barney's comment before 'ICB', too: "If you like this, you must like Ronald Reagan. If you like this, you'll like fucking anything."

& you're more goth than Bimble by half.

I agree with Cookie, Youn and Gareth: let's lose 'Blue Monday'!!

Loads of people upthread mention 'Age of Consent', then Ally (I think) turns up and says 'why does no one ever mention "Age of Consent"?' ... myself, I've never heard it.

Search a lot including

Temptation
Bizarre Love Triangle
1963
World in Motion
True Faith
Regret
All The Way -- now this is one underrated New Order track
Love Less

- yes, I am stating the obvious.

Maybe lose Thieves Like Us, Shellshock, State of the Nation

oh, THIS is 'age of consent'?

Lose 'Thieves Like Us'? Together with 'Lonesome Tonight' you could make a case for it being the best thing they ever did. (You'd be wrong, but not far off.)

More underrated goodness:

Hurt
Sooner Than You Think
Way of Life

Following the Movement poll, I've been obsessed by Chosen Time

I saw New Order in 1984 when they played Perfect Kiss for the first time ever and they also played Decades as an encore. So there.

you guys are all SO goth!

I saw New Order in 1984 when they played Perfect Kiss for the first time ever and they also played Decades as an encore. So there.

I've got a cock
It looks like the M1
It's long and thin
It's got a white line down it

It curls about
It curls about
There's crashes on it
And service stations too

For Brits, have just noticed that Spotify has the deluxe versions of all the LPs online now. Am going to go and binge!

Can you explain that last comment?

Spotify - anyone heard of it?

x-post what HI DERE said, but also:

Spotify: http://www.spotify.com/en/

Allows you to play back albums in full over the internet, legally. They have added all New Order's 80s albums very recently, previously they only had Technique and Low Life.

So is it like lastfm?

They have music online also

Kind of, except last.fm has much more limited album playback capabilities. It's more internet radio, whereas Spotify bills itself as a medium through which to play back whole albums, as well as offering radio functionality.

so its like Deezer?

x-post Lots more discussion on that thread linked to above though, don't want to derail this one!

I am playing it now, would you believe - 'Ceremony'

destroy

everything's gone green

oh, THIS is 'everything's gone green'?

these titles always escaped me.

Destroy Ceremony? You're crazy.

OK, keep it

I've moved on to GO SAILOR !!!

out loud, to self, before clicking on thread: "bimble woke this up"

I assume/think this for 100 percent of post-punk threads woken up in the AM hours of the night (US time).

And 90 percent of the time, it's true.

pinefox, do you even like new order, wtf

have the fixed the remaster issues?

they

Not so far as I know.

Still no official word, but apparently Warners have got someone in charge of 'sorting out the mess'. There's more over at the NOO forum.

I like some of their records, yes, thanks

that's why I posted to a Search & Destroy thread about them

answering questions on an ilm thread two days later. i'd say classic.

I dug up my "Gerry and the Holograms" single recently.

for those of you who may not know, Mhannet jumped from Rabid records to Factory, and the dudes left behind founded Absurd records.

Let's just say it bears a remarkable resemblance to a NO 12" single of note. and was made at least a year before it....

To be honest, I have a couple of the reissues and still don't hear any issues worth complaining about.

Can't say I ever noticed how much Gerry and the Holograms sounds like Blue Monday. Pretty amazing. I have a few of the Absurd releases, Blah Blah Blah, Eddie Fiction and 48 Chairs. The 48 Chairs single is a total classic.

Holy shit really? I haven't heard that Gerry & The Holograms thing in a few years now. I remember it being very good. I'll have to relisten. Don't know Eddie Fiction. Wasn't impressed with either Blah Blah Blah or 48 Chairs.

I'm only familiar with it because of the remix that ended up on that Diplo/Santogold 'Top Ranking' mix last year.

Well I'm listening to it now and don't see much of a similarity, I'm afraid. Only if you were specifically looking for one, I guess...

I saw New Order in 1984 when they played Perfect Kiss for the first time ever and they also played Decades as an encore. So there.

wait seriously? damn

The similarity is mostly to BM's sequenced bassline.

Someone must be more goth than both of us, John.

OK, time zones it is..

Anyhow,

Can't say I ever noticed how much Gerry and the Holograms sounds like Blue Monday

It's the same bassline, it's the same tune!

Blimey.

check: http://www.go-quick.co.uk/Holograms.MP3

Doesn't want to load, mate. Sorry. Anyway, drunkards on this side of the Atlantic who have to go to work at a 9 to 5 tomorrow need to go to bed now. It's 2:20 AM. Goodnight.

http://www.go-quick.com/holograms.mp3

(Think I'd know my own website address...!)

@J0hn D:

I was at that same Billy Barty's Roller (Disco) Fantasy gig in 1983, as well as the Florentine Gardens show a couple of nights earlier. Fantastic show. Love it that someone recorded it from the soundboard and it's out there in FLAC. (I'd forgotten Barney's "If you like this, you must like Ronald Reagan." quote - classic)

Just such a bizarre venue for a gig. A GoldenVoice one at that.

Strangely, in an interview Tom (their US label guy) said the Florentine Gardens show was "crap". Yet I clearly remember at one point thinking, "My entire reason for being is to be standing here seeing this magnificent band play this music." (OK, so I was young and overwhelmed.)

@Millsner:

"Cries And Whispers" is my all-time favorite NO track. They only played it live a few more times after that Billy Barty's gig. I'm glad (and lucky) I heard them do it, in retrospect.

seen this yet?

http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/

spaaaaffff

thanking u

Very cool! Thanks for posting the link. Most exciting is this from the August 4th post:

Once the remaining ten singles are done there'll be some more surprises to wrap up New Order's Factory years. Remember that rarities box set you wished Retro was going to be? Yeah.

i expect to see NO back at the top of the ilx last.fm charts this month

yessss...<3

I remember grabbing one of two of these that were posted to the NOO forum as previews, but didn't know anything about the blog. Glad to see the project bore fruit!

Finally having time to go through these and they are amazing.

On the other hand Bad Lieutenant's first single is now streaming on myspace and it's quite disappointing.

Thanks for that link! I've been looking for that Record Mirror mix of Subculture for a few months now. Best version, IMHO. Awes.

oh my god, that Recycle blog is the single greatest thing I have ever seen on the internet

I'm glad this blog is getting attention, hosted by the husband of my friend and sometime ILM contributor Thomas Inskeep. Some of these cuts are revelatory.

Someone stole my idea for a blog. I have most of these. Took me around four years.

loving the 12" version of Shellshock so much right now

so i love New Order, but I'm not a crazed superfan -- what's the deal with all of this material? It's all OOP/unavailable? For god's sake, why? Fill me in here!

Because Rob Gretton is dead, the band don’t speak to each other, and the record company are so incompetent wrt the catalogue that they had to recall the entire pressing of double-disc remasters they put out last year due to sub-par sound quality and wrong songs.

in a nutshell

loving the 12" version of Shellshock so much right now

^^^This.

too bad the blogger is not a big fan of Robie's edits. As a fan of that style of editing, and Robie in general, I love Shellshock. Backing vocals and all.

heh, thanks for the sum-up, sic. God bless the Internet!

xpost OTM

I am not a fan of Robie either. He came off as a prick in New Order Story. I feel like he ruined both Sub-Culture and Shellshock. Both songs sound much better live although the Record Mirror mix of Sub-Culture is the best mix (mostly because it's a beefed edit of the album version sans idiotic repeating sampler jack-offery and sans that horribly out of time bass sequencer).

Funny, I didn't think him at all prick-ish in NO Story...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwhepHqsO8E

John Robie clip.

Yeah, doesn't bug me at all, but maybe I'm predisposed to like him because I think he's a genius.

If I don't like the 2 mixes he did for New Order, can you recommend some other mixes he did that you consider contributions to his 'genius' status?

Love this blog, thanks Electric Sound!

Is robie listening to Fancy's Come Inside?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1fQZg2oVno

beyond "mixes", stuff like Planet Rock and One More Shot pretty much solidify Robie's cred. Hip Hop Be-Bop Don't Stop, Play At Your Own Risk, Pack Jam, etc.

Rumors have it that Robies contributions have been understated while Bakers have been overstated.

Sounds about right. (Just listened to the full-length "Sub-Culture" remix and while it's a product of its time as the blog notes I always thought it was pretty amazing.)

xpost, also Bambaataa's "Looking for the Perfect Beat" and Freestyle - "Don't Stop the Rock".

The thing about the "Sub-Culture" remix is that it's so densely packed and seemingly random at moments yet you notice how incredibly precise elements drop in only after they happen. The reverbed syncopated kicks are my favorite part.

Glad to see the Robie Sub-Culture mix getting a good reception here. Much better than the album version imho.

So I'm trying to figure out what the rest of these entries will be assuming 20 entries total and going up to "World in Motion" and I think I have it:

13. Bizarre Love Triangle
14. True Faith
15. Touched by the Hand of God
16. Blue Monday '88
17. Fine Time
18. Round and Round
19. Run2
20. World in Motion

I love the Subculture mix with all my heart except for that damn farty bass sound- it's bugged the shit out of me for well over a decade now. Had a similar problem recently with the clonking cowbell (or whatever it is) in Capracara's "King of the Witches" but I've finally gotten to the point where it doesn't stick out so much.

And that blog has absolutely made my week.

(and did they ever put out corrected versions of the reissues?)

They're due soon.

I can't seem to find an announcement, are they just replacing discs or are there new discs going to retail?

holy shit this blog is amazing

The Recycle blog's currently working on 'Bizarre Love Triangle'. And the running order of the rest is confirmed, pretty much like I figured:

True Faith (already done)
Touched By The Hand Of God
Blue Monday '88
Fine Time (already done)
Round & Round
Run 2 (already done)
World In Motion

Will be utterly fantastic to have a definitive Run 2 single available.

Hope TBTHOG includes the early mixes, too (from 'Salvation!'?), since they're pretty fantastic.

Hm, now I know what my favourite adjective is when I've been drinking.

Hi there, I'm Jeb - the fellow who is doing the Recycle blog. It makes me really happy to see other people excited about the work we're doing.

@millsner - the Salvation! tracks will be on one of five additional listening discs that sit alongside each of the 80's studio LPs:

New Order Factory Irregulars
1. Additional Listening 1980-1981
2. Additional Listening 1982-1983
3. Additional Listening 1984-1985
4. Additional Listening 1986-1987
5. Additional Listening 1988-1990

Each disc is about an hour-long collection of rare, soundtrack, compilation, demo, and live material. There's a significant amount of material that's never been released. They also come with full artwork that compliments each studio album.

At that point the Recyle blog will contain everything the band officially released between 1980-1990 in remastered form, except for the studio albums, because they're still in print.

Sir, you are doing good deeds beyond compare. :-)

yeah, this is basically the best argument yet for bands putting reissue campaigns in the hands of dedicated fans. for real!

After having ignored them for so long due to latter day evils, and then being inspired by John Sellers Perfect From Now On book to finally get around to listening to the back catalogue, this blog is a godsend. cheers Jeb.

These are fabulous so far.

What's the relation between the versions of "Temptation", "Hurt", etc. on these singles, and the versions on the 1981 - 1982 EP?

GREAT work Jeb!!!

Nice one indeed Jeb, very much appreciated!

@ Houston - the versions of Temptation and Hurt on the 1981-1982 EP are exactly the same as the 12". On the 7", Temptation is a different recording and Hurt is a different mix (same basic recording with different effects and panning - not just an edit). The version of Hurt on disc 2 of Substance is a unique edit.

Your work is very much appreciated! The singles deserve to be so curated with lavish affection and attention to detail.

Thanks for your answer! It's puzzled me what's on the 1981-1982 EP for years, mostly because I've never had it but have read much about it.

Any comments on the mastering differences between the 1981-1982 EP and the far more common Substance CD?

I know 'EGG' on my CD copy certainly sounds rather different; less harsh, maybe.

The friend doing all the restoration and mastering didn't comment about the differences, so they must be minimal. He's usually very anal about that sort of thing. I know he tended toward using Substance as the benchmark because it was the first CD mastering for most of these songs.

was away from my own computer for a month - i can't wait to d/l these!!
anybody receive any replacement cd's from dr. rhino yet? i thought they would have shipped by now - i saw the new new re-reissues at amoeba today

So did they change the track selection on the re-reissues or just do a better mastering job?

The tracks are the same - including the completely out of place Tall Paul remix for True Faith - they just took them from better sources.

i'm a serious luddite playing these n.o. m4a files w/quicktime. i tried to install itunes for an hour today and it di'n't work. i don't want itunes anyhow. i searched a couple threads on m4a-mp3 conversion already and haven't found what i'm looking for. anybody have any goodideas? this stuff sounds incredible and i NEED to be able to get onto a disk.....

No idea what OS you are using. Fn windows m4a plays in winamp/vlc. You want to burn an audio cd? For windows use burrrn @ http://www.burrrn.net/?page_id=4

yes, you understood what i failed to elucidate, svend. i just installed winamp, even, but honestly don't really have the $20 to drop for the pro edition so i can convert these. thanks for the link!

svend, you are a brilliant brilliant example of the human species!! i love the internetz again!!!

This pretty amazing. Yeah, wow.

"Bizarre Love Triangle" is up it's amazing. Listening to the 12" mix, I really have not heard it like this since I retired my phonograph. It's amazing how much trouble this kind of work is for record companies.

"Procession" is owning me so hard right now

I'm like that with Kiss of Death.

wish these were up as flacs! they made me relove new order

flac would be great and fitting with the completist nature of these, but would that extra resolution really help if the source was a needledrop?

Not so much extra resolution as having a non-lossy format to transcode into whatever your favorite method of play is.

ah I see..

my other favorite thing about this project are the absolutely awesome album art scans. I've thrown them all together into one folder and I set my desktop background to cycle through them. almost makes me wish I had a square aspect ratio monitor.

holy shit, it is amazing how the first song you hear by a band can imprint on you because "Shellshock" just came on and holy wow

this site is turning me from casual New Order fan to nutty New Order superfan ....

"Thieves Like Us", my God

I had completely forgotten how massive their singles are.

I love the 1987 "Temptation" the most but I'm shocked at the gravity of the 12" version.

It's like, whenever I start going "blah blah don't really like the PCL/Low-Life/Brotherhood era" I hear these singles and remember I'm talking shit.

Heh, I'm using the art scans as desktop wallpaper too.

would anyone like to zip and upload the artwork scans? i downloaded the zips from Recycle blog but deleted the folders with the images. don't want to d/l them all again.

also, i asked on the Recycle blog but in the Shellshock 12", at appx 5mins, you can hear someone sing the alternate verse in the background in a high pitched voice. i guess it's Robie but i've never heard it before. anyone know who that is?

artwork here: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=51c1b0c7c849e75c36df4e8dca141969e04e75f6e8ebb871

I asked on the blog what hardware/software was being used and got politely smacked down for it, but that doesn't change the fact that these transfers sound fucking amazing.

Also, HOLY SHIT SEVEN INCH EDIT OF BIZARRE DUB TRIANGLE WOO-HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

thanks j.o.n.a.

Just checking back in to address a few points.

Check back in the blog later tonight for a couple of tweak updates.

FLAC files do exist, but I'm withholding them in the hopes that Rhino/WB will pick up this project and actually manufacture it. I'm also trying to avoid legal action. If I never hear a peep from the label about this work I will quietly release the FLACS in a few months.

You can always download the artwork directly from my Flickr account:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9333777@N03/sets/72157607168692018/

Click on any given image, then "all sizes" and go to the biggest size for full resolution. I'm really glad you're loving the artwork, as restoring it is allowing me to channel my inner Saville.

Finally, I don't know the full process that Bruce uses to restore the music. I live in San Francisco and he lives in Toronto. I have watched him do it before, though. He uses a Technics 1200 turntable with a microline stylus. I think he uses Audition. All of the clicks are removed manually - one measure at a time - using spectrum analysis. He splits the center/side channels and does noise reduction on the side channels only, then he re-encodes it. He also has an uncanny ear for EQ.

Bruce did make this note on the transfer of Ceremony:

"...transcribed at 33 RPM, de-clicked, and then pitch-shifted to 45 RPM in the digital domain at which point the remaining processing was done (20Hz highpass filter, convert from stereo to mid/side, noise reduction on side channel only, convert back to stereo, EQ and just a touch of limiting)."

dude clearly knows his shit

i wish all vinyl remastering could be done with such care

what do you think the chances are that warner bros. will pick the project up? not being snarky here, just wondering if you guys have a connection or if there's a precedent for that kind of thing .....

I'm so psyched to finally hear the uncut version of "The Perfect Kiss", and even more psyched that there's a cleaned up/adjusted version of the Demme video take on here

I considered buying Retro just to have the Demme take on CD

@ tylerw - we do have connections. Without giving away too much, the band's management is very aware of this project.

Did the video version of Bizarre Love Triangle ever get released in any form, you know the one with the 'I don't believe in reincarnation...' bit in it? Just curious... Youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OhDp9o1dX4

No, the video edit never had a commercial release as such.

this is amazing stuff Jeb, another thanks for doing this!

Cheers! And yes, awesome work, thanks!

Please check Recycle for an update about fixed audio and tweaked artwork.

Well, you could pull the audio for that video edit of Bizarre Love Triangle off the "A Collection" DVD if you really wanted to have a decent mp3 of it.

FLAC files do exist, but I'm withholding them in the hopes that Rhino/WB will pick up this project and actually manufacture it.

You can't listen to these and imagine a world where this doesn't happen.

we do have connections. Without giving away too much, the band's management is very aware of this project.
very cool! i imagine after the apparent botch of those NO reissues this year, the band might be interested in exploring other avenues ....

got em all except "shellshock" now... and the m3d1af1r3 page for "shellshock" is not being very cooperative... so close! :[

thank you thank you, 50 pound note (and to whomever did the transfers), so jazzed about getting around to rockin all these later tonight

Rhino, what happened? we useda really like ya!
just got my Brotherhood dic two replacement yesterday. Tha barstids swapped "Beach Buggy", what was originally slated to be the final track of the set, with another Blue Monday (dub). i feel a bit heisted after waiting paitiently for months

Rhino didn't actually replace any of the incorrect mixes from the first batch of reissues. They retained those mixes, titled them correctly, and took them from better sources.

you're right they retained the mixes, but i wasn't expecting to be teased re: Beach Buggy. that kinda shite sticks in my craw- not like there isn't plenty of room on disc 2 for it...

late to the party, but wow, this project is amazing. (thanks!)

uncut "perfect kiss" is @___@

Did anyone see "Ceremony" on a commercial the other day? I thought that was cool ... probably my favorite song of theirs.

lol hooky

"In my mind, Bernard split us up in 92 when he went off with Johnny Marr, and I split us up this time. All we have to wait for is when we get back together is hopefully for Stephen to split us up and we’ll all be even."

also "...it’s a very strange position to be in, especially with the fact that we’ve both got records coming out together at the same time. It’s very weird. But it’s exciting. It’s a bit like a fat version of Blur and Oasis."

Hey, 50 Pound Note: I've been meaning to get round to downloading your Recycle stuff for a while and only got to starting listening today: dude, huge, huge respect. There are a couple of things here I've never actually heard (eg the 7" promo of Lonesome Tonight, almost certainly my favourite song by New Order and sometimes by anybody in the world) and ... really, this is just a wonderful thing.

Didn't realise you'd been posting here either -- I've not checked in for a couple of months -- so ... ach, just wanted to echo what everyone else has been saying above. You're a shining star in the firmament: thank you.

couple of really good acoustic performances here from bernard sumner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxp5ogeJ54Q
Bizarre Love Triangle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Z6DlCl6jvQ
Love Will Tear Us Apart

You know, I've actually noticed a couple of things in the Recyle-d versions of EGG and Temptation (12" versions) I've never even *heard* before: tiny little sounds/textures/moments that, for whatever reason, were never as clear in the versions I've had or heard up till now. *Bliss*.

some of the photos on this 'recycle' flickr are gorgeous. wheres he getting it all from?

@piscesx - I own copies of all the original Factory singles in every format (7", 12" CD). My Flickr stream is a combination of hi-res scans, Photoshop recreations, and photos I took myself (the concept art pieces).

Ceremony came on today while I was out driving. I love that song so gd much. It's definitely in my top 5 favorite songs ever.

god barney looks...tragic in those. but they sound great.

this True Faith re-re-remastering has really got me on tenterhooks

oh my god, that Recycle blog is the single greatest thing I have ever seen on the internet

― a being that goes on two legs and is ungrateful (dyao), Thursday, 20 August 2009 02:09 (1 month ago) Bookmark

Together with the gorgeous flickr stream I would have to agree.

Did anyone see "Ceremony" on a commercial the other day? I thought that was cool ... probably my favorite song of theirs.

― slagterm, Thursday, 17 September 2009 01:03 (2 weeks ago) Bookmark

Sorry if this cropped up on another thread (I'm a bit behind).
But this was the Absolut ad, yes? Turns out not be NO but Fall on Your Sword. Still it sounds pretty great, anyone know if it's available anywhere?

True Faith has been fixed and re-uploaded. Please see the blog for more details.

:-D

Amazing job. Kudos. etc. Also 1st version of Ceremony! Terrific.

it bears repeating: best thing on Internet currently

Touched By The Hand Of God is now online.

Superb: the great lost New Order single (or is it just me thinks that? I always felt it was unfairly lost between Substance and Technique). Will head over now to download. Thanks again.

Great video too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMYBQeukrJk

^^ Saw that video for the first time this weekend, don't know much about N.O at all, that was a non-album track?

Yeah, like many of the singles. This one done for a movie soundtrack though.

The video makes more sense (and is even funnier) if you watch contemporary Warrant and Poison videos.

Plus, bonus Rob Gretton cameo.

Bon Jovi was probably the best/worst role model for that video.

Specifically "Living On A Prayer"

Meantime I've just read the bizarre news that John Barnes has been asked to rerecord his "World in Motion" rap for what I presume is some sort of rerelease for next year or something. Uh.

!

I'm trying to get more information on this as I type.

Apparently mentioned on Radcliffe and Maconie's show. Perhaps nothing but a miserable lie. Or...?

http://www.tourdates.co.uk/news/14988-new-order-to-re-record-world-in-motion

holy lolz

GAH

Get in the mood with his version of it from last year!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ddsUA3mTo8

Apparently will feature lyrics promoting Mars bars!

"We're singing for Mars Bars..."

"after 90 minutes of sheer hell, you're gonna be thirsty"

Meantime, while we all wait on the next Recycle entry, an interesting little bonus...

http://thepowerofindependenttrucking.blogspot.com/2009/10/answer-me-new-order-run-2-warners-mixes.html

Blue Monday 1988 is online.

Did anybody receive those replacement discs from Rhino yet? I got an email more than a month ago swearing they would be sent 'within 10 business days,' but nothing has arrived.

Still waiting here.

Fine Time is up.

I was just about the say that. Sounds fantastic (Hooky's heavy breathing coming through clear). You're a star.

Round & Round is up.

Run 2 is up.

On a roll! Thanks as ever.

So they're reunioning!

I missed that bit of news.

so did the rest of the world. you might consider posting a source.

Sorry, the news story was from 2006, even though it was right next to that "re-recording WorldInMot" story on that tourdates site.

Then again, if they're re-recording that song, presumably some sort of "reunion" would have to happen.

Is there something upthread in that "click here to read them all" bit?

From what I understood, the band aren't rerecording, they're just getting some new SOCCER DOODS in to record new vocals.

it bears repeating: best thing on Internet currently

― tylerw, Thursday, October 8, 2009 6:52 PM (1 month ago) Bookmark

^^^ this. I mean holy crap wow these sound SO good.

hee hee, I had never heard the Blue Monday 88 remixes. They're terrible! In a sort of fun way.

Yes, but !Where Is It!!??!

neworder-recycle.blogspot.com

World In Motion is up.

Hey, congrats for getting through all of this -- and THANK YOU for your efforts.

I stopped downloading about half way though so I could listen to them all in a row - something I intend to do at least twice this weekend. Thanks so much for this!

Amazing work - and JD next!

New Order celebrating this momentous occasion.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/New_Order.jpg

you know that video of them doing Temptation at the bbc in 1984, i fucking love everything about that video

those shorts!

Saw Bad Lieutenant opening for Pet Shop Boys last night. Oh dear. I came in a few songs into their set, but they were doing Bizarre Love Triangle. When they started doing Chemical Brothers' 'Out of Control', it really began to properly feel like Barney was in his own cover band. Then it segued into 'Temptation', which is as unfuckwithable as ever. Still, ending on 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' was a step too far removed from the original to work. Would have preferred if he had just played their own stuff (which I've never heard), but so it goes. Lots of dad-dancing and yelping as per usual.

I can imagine Neil and Chris smirking from stage left.

So they didn't do any Electronic songs with Neil and Chris? I was hoping they would. So far they've only done Tighten Up, which I love, but they're playing it many bpms too fast and it just sounds weird.

HI DAD NICE DANCING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz5Xh8a9hJY

Bernard needs to get Johnny Marr back, keep Steve on drums, add LOL Tolhurst or whichever Cure Bassist and maybe Fletch (added LOL) on keyboards and have the ultimate 80s supergroup.

Lol never played bass, though; he'd either need to get Michael Dempsey or, Phil Thornally if he wanted a former Cure bassist.

Also I'm sure Fletch isn't leaving Depeche Mode but Alan Wilder might be convinced to show up if they throw a couple of Recoil tracks onto the playlist.

Man does he look like Shatner nowadays. That said, the song in that YT clip ain't half bad.

he's doing covers of early electronic album tracks with his new band?? wtf.

I finally received the replacement discs in the mail today from Rhino for the fucked-up New Order remasters! I did not listen to them yet.

LTM are reissuing The Other Two albums soon. Preorders get a bonus disc of rarities. Btw, I have a spare copy of Superhighways if someone wants to trade/buy.

<a href="http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/2010/01/jd-recycle-1-ideal-for-living.html";>An Ideal For Living[/i] is up.

Once more into, etc. Thank ya sir!

Link here:

http://neworder-recycle.blogspot.com/2010/01/jd-recycle-1-ideal-for-living.html

Yeah, I kinda screwed up the HTML.

:D