Aphex Twin classic or Dud?

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I don't think he is. I make some kind of music just like the warp acts.. and I can tell you this: boards of canada and esp. Autechre are better. he just no as classic as everybody thinks.

Ludo

Ludo, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

More style killing substance the way a small boy will kill ants with a magnifying glass in the noonday sun. He is attractive to some because of his videos, which is a nice way of saying he gets good directors to do his shit.

JM, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

If you judge Richard James on his videos I think you've really missed the point. Techno pioneer, innovator and creator of some of the finest electronic music of the last 10+ years. (IMHO Autechre, who claim James is their major inspiration, churn out dull, dessicated and tiresomely ornate sounds by comparison).

Stevo, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The videos are really good, though. Though possibly that should be in "Chris Cunningham: Classic Or Dud"

Tom, Friday, 12 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never seen his videos (though I wanna) and I think he's classic. It's always a good idea to challenge the conventional wisdom, but in this case it's right: Aphex has made tons of beautiful tracks (though most of his albums are uneven) and has been hugely influential. Boards of Canada is unthinkable without the style established by James, as I'm sure Sandison and Es would tell you!

Mark Richardson, Saturday, 13 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I know hid made some very good tracks. and maybe he has influenced some people. but.. if you listen to his albums most of the songs are just crap. his videos rules and the songs made the videos for also. but I think this guy is just too lazy to make one good album.

Ludo

Ludo, Sunday, 14 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Does he have to make a good album, to be considered classic? (By the way: Selected Ambient Works Vol. II., The Richard D. James Album.)

Josh, Sunday, 14 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

does he has to make a good album to be a classic.

yes.

the ambient works are cool but, not that cool to become a classic. he should make an album full of super songs like windowlicker to become a classic. or songs like flim.

Ludo

Ludo, Sunday, 14 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. He made me realize how great electronic music can be. Just like Joy division, MBV and Fushitsusha made me realize how good 'rock' can be. He's made great records and he's not a one trick pony (RD James to selected ambient II).

The one problem is that a lot of people just buys his records and don't dig a for more records by other groups like autechre, Susumu Yokota and so on. For me he was definetely the beginning but not the end.

Julio Desouza, Sunday, 14 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The only Aphex Twin that I liked was "I care because you do". That had soul. The rest are just experimentation for experimentation's sake.

I mostly listen to psytrance/Goa, intelligent techno, jungle & ambient. IDM in general doesn't do it for me, it lacks emotion (at least positive ones).

Snow Dog, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. No contest.

o.munoz, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

The first track on "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" is, on a good day, the end result of the dialectic of all culture.

So, classic, yeah.

Tim, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic. Just on the basis of the Richard D James album, the bloke's a genius. Add to that Surfing On Sine Waves, Windowlicker, Girl/Boy and most of the Selected Ambient Works and the guy's at least a demigod. BoC and Autechre have both done fine stuff but they aren't even fit to step through the door of Mr Twin's bank.

Richard Tunnicliffe, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, without a doubt classic. He was shitting out stuff in the early nineties which defined the genre by breaking it so often. Edgy, fractious, occasionally twee Ver Twin was where it was at.

You don't need to make a good album to be a classic (I'm not even sure you have to make a good single to be a classic) but Ritchie has certainly made some good albums. And what's this guff about Selected Ambient Works not being a proper album. Glen Campbell's 20 Golden Greats is a proper album, just because its a compilation does not weaken its claim.

Of course that make The Best Of Blur pretty much their best album...

Pete, Monday, 15 January 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Anyone who goes to the trouble of making their own weird space instruments out of whatever they can lay their hands on in order to realise their sonic vision is definitely classic

William Casper, Thursday, 15 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Listening to just one track can answer this.

POLYNOMIAL - C

This is one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever. Also digiredoo and analogue bubblebath. Classic, groundbreaking music

Andy, Friday, 23 February 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Aphex is by far the most versatile, creative and most advanced artist in ALL of Dance/electronic culture, that means every genre thats made with samplers and electronics. IDM is easy to make now , but you wouldnt have said this 6 or 7 years ago. I laugh when people assume theyre just as good as someone like an Aphex, 10 out of 10 times theyll play what theyve done with it and its nothing even close to the genius of Aphex. Now ofcourse everyone has their own opnion about this, but this is mine and generally ya can ask most djs or artists and they'll usually admit that Aphex is in a league almost no one can touch. Everyone from Bowie to Reznor to Bjork and countless dance artists will reckon that fact. I like both Boards of Canada and Autechre, and I as nice as for example BOX is, they dont even come in the total BATTING RANGE of what Aphex has done over the past 11 -12 years or so. Music Has the Right to Children is good , but IMO nothing groundbreaking and the last 4 tune EP "Out in a Beautiful place in The Country" nothing to write home about IMO. Autechre has done some amazing stuff as well, but they sound rather repetitious at times, neither BOC or Autechre have the emotion ridden classics as AFX's "Heliospan", "Girl/boy", "Alberto Balsam", "Peek","Flim", "UZ-US" for example. Personally I think that Plaid/Black Dog kick both Ae and BOC's butts in terms of emotion and the likes in their music. I would like Mr Ludo come up with a Girl/Boy track for example, if yer so good, then put yer samples online bro.. Aphex is still King of all......

PostModernVancouver, Monday, 12 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Definitely classic - though his cohorts Autechre and Boards of canada are good too.

I'm good too

charlie frame, Wednesday, 14 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Strange enough I find Autechre to be the most emotional of the IDM (aaarghh I've said okay, I.D.M.) artists. They have a fairly unique way of going for childlike melancholy without using the sounds of the 70s itself a la Boards of Canada (love em too). It's more like the sound nostalgia makes. It's a bit hard to explain but you hear it best on the 1st album and "Amber". Unlike much of Mr. James later output, for instance that irritating fartknocking "jungle" on "Richard James" album. Which is a pity because he had that emotional touch up to "I Care...".

Omar, Thursday, 15 March 2001 01:00 (eighteen years ago) link

this Man are king of free minding music and thinking.I llicke that Man!

vinsents krebs, Tuesday, 27 March 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Aphex Twin deserves more credit than he's given. For me, it's the sound of 'england dreaming', a contemporary embodiment of our eccentricity, more evocative of the Britain I experienced in the 90's than the indie commentary (Divine Comedy/ Babybird). Listen to 'Cornish Acid' on Richard. D James for the quintessential 'english' whimsy- seaside towns, Martin Parr, provincial backwaters. (A suggestion for an artist who's speaking more directly, i.e. vocals, samples, try Martin - Male Caucasian, but unfortunately this'll date like a Blue Peter annual.) Folk music for the digital pastures that've been uncovered in the past decade, he's as vague and indistinct as the new avenues we find ourselves on.

Despite the rictus grin there's is a genuine warmth and humour to his music, though I'll admit that, like many Warp artists, the emotional communication is indirect, showing us how to feel, as opposed to telling us what to feel. But that's fine, it's not as if they're even trying to tell us a story. Concequently this kind of music has a greater resonance with me. But then what what distinguishes him from his contempories? Well, he's survived every micro-genre he invented, reacted to and re- developed his own back catalogue - he replied to ambient with Ambient Vol 2, Drill n Bass with the classical hybrids of Richard D. James, then stirred the already stagnant electronica scene with Windowlicker, which I'm sure could hold it's own in any ILM pop league. Still a genius, even with his head firmly up his own arse.

Did you know AFX has been corresponding with Beck for months about producing the Beck's album. It fell apart cause neither were prepared to record outside their own studio. I dunno, but that would have been fun.

K-reg, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

i agree. be sure to not refer to beck as 'the beck' on your top forty list though.

ethan, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

basically, just agreeing with everything k-reg said. i like the martin parr comparison in particular. always been taken with the ruralism in aphex. richard.d.james album always seems like a cousin of nick drake's bryter layter.

but i'm glad the aphex/beck thing didn't happen. even aphex couldn't make beck good.

oh, and to answer the question, classic, obviously

gareth, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Just wait until Robin gets ahold of that "provincial backwaters" thing that K-Reg said.

Patrick, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah? So? I've met K-reg and I could tell instantly he meant it in good spirit. It's the sarcastic mockery of certain other contributors that I can't take. I'm quite happy being in a geographical backwater as long as I'm not in a cultural one.

The Parr comparison applies for sure, but not as explicitly as it does with BoC's "Concourse" and "M9" (but then how could it?).

Aphex is classic, of course. I actually used to see him as a model for making a virtue of geographical isolation as a means of artistically refining yourself, so it's appropriate that K-reg said that. I think "Richard D. James Album" is his best work, as well, whereas FWIW I think "Bryter Layter" is Drake's weakest.

Robin Carmody, Tuesday, 8 May 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
If Richard D. James doesn't impress you, Ludo, then who the hell does??????!!!!

Sam Garcia, Thursday, 16 August 2001 00:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Apropos of nothing: "Audax Powder" on the Polygon Window's Surfing On Sine Waves: The windows are down, I'm going to pick up my baby, my paycheck is still warm and I've had 7 gimlets. And we live inside Tron.

Sasha Frere-Jones (Sasha Frere-Jones), Sunday, 11 May 2003 20:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Fair enough, Autechre and Plaid are more focused in their visions and make arguably better music, but they would be nothing, absolutely nothing without Aphex. Aphex is a starting point, if you like his complexity, then get into Autechre; is maniacal evilness, listen to Boards of Canada; for his melodic brilliance, Plaid are highly recommended. But it is always worth listening to and revering RDJ as the pioneering force behind this music.

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 12 May 2003 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link

This is interesting because I have been obsessed with "electronic" music since I was about 10 years old but then I stopped listening to it for years. I thought I'd get back into it by seeking out the guy everyone was talking about, The Aphex Twin. So a few years back I bought "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" - listened to it a few times and thought, "blah". I found it totally bland and uninteresting and it wasn't doing anything I hadn't heard hundred times before. But I am willing to give the guy another go because I think he must have talent for people to be so fanatical about him.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link

I think this thread has my first evah post on ILX (I think my opinions on eelctronic have changed quite a bit since then).

dada- you should get selected ambient works vol II. I heard the first disc of that last evening. its really wonderful 'ambient' stuff. great to read books with.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:00 (sixteen years ago) link

neither classic nor dud - just hugely overrated.

I think the general feeling on Aphex Twin is surely that he makes far better videos than records.

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

russ t, Monday, 12 May 2003 11:06 (sixteen years ago) link

great to read books with.

-- Julio Desouza (juli...), May 12th, 2003.

Julio: "Once upon a time there was a little bear named Pooh..."

SAW V.2: "Who lived in the House At Pooh Corner..."

Julio: "One day Pooh's friend Piglet came round for tea, and said to Pooh-"

SAW V.2: "'Come on you cunt let's have some of that Aphex Acid!!!!'"

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Most of his stuff is doodly nonsense..... some unlistenable, some rather good. Much of it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along.

I like doodly nonsense, I like unlistenable, I like "making it up as he goes along" - someone direct me to the doodly unlistenable shit he makes up as he's going along.

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

classic. for the ambient records especially. the more drum'n'bass-y ones don't do it for me quite as much, but then i'm not really into drum'n'bass. i feel like i'm on rocky territory if i start calling him a genius, as i'd feel i have to give reasons other than the beauty of the music. and that's all that matters, really.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah that's spot on nick.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link

I like those jungle inspired recs. its not all good but some amazing tracks came out of that. also search windowlicker and come to daddy singles.

I think SAW II + I think there's enuff to make a wonderful two CD 'best of'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 12 May 2003 11:13 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...
classic,and not just because i own 7 of his albums.I really do believe he is a classic if only for SAWII and "I care..."those two cd's are possibly my faveorite albums ever and underneath fall my boc albums and then the rest of my aphex twin collection.I am interested in autecher and squarepusher but I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on....oh and I do like underground stuff too,donato wharton's "is that why yr still on earth" is breathtaking and makes me cry everytime i hear it...

Caleb, Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:00 (fifteen years ago) link

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

!

roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 02:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm a fan.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 12:55 (fifteen years ago) link

"I haven't gotten into them because I'm afraid i'll like them and that'll be another artist to follow and spend my money on"

This actually makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to deal with this. (Not just because of the $ factor, but also because it takes me a long time to "absorb" new material, and I get ansy when there's stuff piling up that I'm really itching to soak up, but haven't been able to give my full attention to.)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:46 (fifteen years ago) link

What's up with RDJ these days, anyway? All the big Aphex websites seem to be defunct or otherwise non-operational...

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 15:52 (fifteen years ago) link

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

He should hang out with D'Angelo.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:22 (fifteen years ago) link

he did a good interview with the wire a few months back. did anybody mention that?

peter smith (plsmith), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I noticed that interview, but I have nowhere to buy the Wire. (And I figured it would end up eventually on the "watmm.com" website.) What did he have to say?

morris pavilion (samjeff), Tuesday, 10 August 2004 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...
what is this?

:| (....), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Anal lord, eh?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 19:22 (fifteen years ago) link

maybe he's picked up some new hobbies?

latebloomer (latebloomer), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 12:14 (fifteen years ago) link

according to luke vibert, aphex has been fully analogue for a while and this is the result

Barnaby (Barnaby), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 13:20 (fifteen years ago) link

probably getting fat and making music he will never show to anyone, ever.

If that's the plan, he was smart to grow the beard early.


What's the story behind Melodies from Mars?

Ian Christe (Ian Christe), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 14:55 (fifteen years ago) link

here's what Mike Paradinas (aka µ-Ziq) says about it:

Luke played me some of the hundreds of tracks earmarked for this Analord series and they are beautiful. More like SOSW* & CW**. But really good clear production. Lots of acid lines, but also a lot of melody & pads... Mostly analog(ue): 303, 606, 808, 909 and his collection of synths (a nice bit of chunky doepfer acid) but a few with breaks too.

* Surfing On Sine Waves
** Caustic Window

Melodies From Mars is rumored to be a demo that he sent to video game companies for them to use in their games. in any case they're probably just outtakes from the RDJ album period since a longer version of Fingerbib is on it.

joseph pot (STINKOR™), Wednesday, 15 September 2004 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link

Aphex Twin? Neither classic nor dud. Yes the guy has some absolutely insanely awesome tunes ("Come to Daddy"! "Windowlicker"! "Pacman Powerpill"! "On"!), but he has like three times as many sucky ones as he does good ones. Does anybody out there really like GAK? Or Hangable Auto Bulb? Or almost every song on the boring-as-hell Analogue Bubblebath series?

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:04 (fifteen years ago) link

what? hangable auto bulb is amazing. ARCHED MAID VIA RDJ.

cutty (mcutt), Thursday, 16 September 2004 03:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Have there been earlier releases in this series already? This is number 10? (And why is it under "2001releases" in the URL?)

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Whoa:

http://www.richarddjames.com/

morris pavilion (samjeff), Thursday, 16 September 2004 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...
Supermodels Tyra Banks and Richard D. James:

http://cdn-channels.netscape.com/gallery/i/b/banks/lg6.jpg

Lingbertt, Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link

holy shit thats UNCANNY

capnkickass (gloriagaynor), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 18:50 (fourteen years ago) link

Heheheheh

Palomino (Palomino), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

who is that?

Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 19:31 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Aphex sucks. Their style is weak.

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:28 (eleven years ago) link

they broke up last year

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Yo APHEX can I have your buchla modular?

why cause it looks intrsting

Display Name, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

What really broke up Aphex Twin was the increasing tension within the group, which was kind of inevitable when you consider that Richard was devoting more and more time to card battle games, James' personality was being warped by his addiction to painkillers, and D's only true desire was to become a family man, now as much as ever. The Richard D. James album was really the last time they functioned as a cohesive group. On the bright side, I've heard Richard was working on a new solo project, and James, always a collaborator and producer above all, will surely find new talent to work with. There's also the possibility of a comeback album in the future, as long as one of the key members doesn't croak (fingers crossed!).

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 16:59 (eleven years ago) link

they still suck though

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

of course there are some song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:18 (eleven years ago) link

Wait, now I'm confused. Do they suck or not? Because I need to know.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

they suck with a few song exceptions

CaptainLorax, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

kind of like you, but you don't write songs.

John Justen, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

do u like their cover of scorpions 'windowlicker'

am0n, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:41 (eleven years ago) link

In retrospect it's clear that the title "Druckqs" was a not-so-veiled jab at RDJ's former bandmates.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

So they suck 100% of the time, except for when they were making those songs? Do they temporarily cease sucking if they perform those songs live? What if they mix two of their sucks together, and one sucks, and one doesn't? Do they suck 50% for the duration?

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:54 (eleven years ago) link

Take my hand, Captain! Together we will arrive at the truth!

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

Lukas, I think the crucial issues are which members of the Aphex Twin Band sucked the most, and who was carrying the band the majority of the time. To the first, I'd say D. definitely sucked the most. To the second, I'd actually argue that the rotating cast of studio drummers probably added an elegance to the band that could not have existed otherwise.

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:06 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah. Shame what happened to most of those drummers.

lukas, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

of course there are some song exceptions

Yeah, their songs are the best part. Richard has a fantastic voice.

Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

The session drummers allegedly hated having to lay those drill n bass beats down, but they were pros and did the job as asked. R/D/J were real dictators in the studio. No one could satisfy them.

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

Aphex Twin Band back in their heyday, with original drummer Fred Ugolon (R.I.P.)

http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9515/66photolz2.jpg

Z S, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:33 (eleven years ago) link

which is the best Aphex Twin solo/side project? Polygon Window, AFX, or Caustic Window?

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:34 (eleven years ago) link

I heard they're reuniting for Coachella

Davey D, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

have u guys heard the solo joint richard did before he joined aphex twin? really out-there stuff.

max, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, Kraftwerk was awesome

latebloomer, Thursday, 25 October 2007 18:51 (eleven years ago) link

Shame he went all vaudeville post-Drukqs.

Autumn Almanac, Thursday, 25 October 2007 22:48 (eleven years ago) link

I heard Tricky is producing them next

El Tomboto, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

I believe you mean Tricky are producing them next.

da croupier, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

in america we refer to bands in the singular

max, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

cor!

da croupier, Thursday, 25 October 2007 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

you mean cor anglais, the band's next key instrument?

Autumn Almanac, Friday, 26 October 2007 03:03 (eleven years ago) link

four months pass...

is that richard d james lookalike laetitia casta!!??

i think aphex definitely knows his craft, and i'll often do the laundry to his more relaxing stuff. anything too noisy ie. falling too deep into the realm of electronica noisy, i don't enjoy so much though

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 13 March 2008 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

fav recording by Rick James is a bootleg of him live@Liquid Room in Tokyo.
and despite the soundquality, SanFran in 92.

Analords sounded like leftovers to me. Shouldn't he be working on a 'Gorillaz'-type side project by now?

U-Haul, Thursday, 13 March 2008 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

u crzy dwg

winston, Friday, 14 March 2008 01:38 (eleven years ago) link

Did RDJ just like retire and nobody noticed? Assuming both drukqs and Analord were leftovers of course. (sure sounded like leftovers to me. Wasn't the story that he found some songs laying around on his hard drive that he didn't give a shit about and just released them all as the drukqs album because he was desperate to get out of his contract with Warp?)

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 14 March 2008 02:16 (eleven years ago) link

Been listening to SAW II like crazy for the past year or so. That album is so brilliantly good.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 14 March 2008 02:20 (eleven years ago) link

Isn't he behind The Tuss? First two-thirds of the album is great.

robertwolf8080, Friday, 14 March 2008 02:39 (eleven years ago) link

the 'hangable auto bulb' collection is a big headphones favourite.

sam500, Friday, 14 March 2008 02:44 (eleven years ago) link

two weeks pass...

'on' is amazing. 'surfing on sine waves' is 50% genius. perhaps he was a bad influence.

banriquit, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

1st 2 posts = Old ILX at its iconoclastic best

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:58 (eleven years ago) link

yeah i don't dislike BoC but that shit's like "hey the smiths were okay but DAYUM you gotta check out GENE".

banriquit, Sunday, 30 March 2008 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

Xtal

Boy Girl

-Classic

That Drukgs effort was awful.

I used to love his DJ sets when i was into festivals back in the 60s. They agreed with my hating of people - spoiling the vibe

Fer Ark, Sunday, 30 March 2008 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

yours truly,

Ludo

moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 30 March 2008 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

Richard's 60s sets were fucking awesome tho. You haven't lived until you've heard the 35 minute Hammond version of "Blue Calx".

Noodle Vague, Sunday, 30 March 2008 21:48 (eleven years ago) link

Chosen Lords soundin' better than ever yesterday. 'fenix funk 5' and 'reunion 2' hit soo hard.

Lowell N. Behold'n, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 02:11 (eleven years ago) link

I can't believe this is even being debated. One of the greatest electronic artists ever.

avonhun, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 04:10 (eleven years ago) link

is that richard d james lookalike laetitia casta!!??
pretty sure it is, but i can't remember for sure anymore.

Lingbert, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 05:20 (eleven years ago) link

Ludo is a regular poster on De Subjectivisten!

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 07:50 (eleven years ago) link

Nerd bonerz question re 'Selected Ambient Works 85-92': is there anywhere one can find out when the specific tracks were written? I have half a feeling the answer is "the fucking sleeve", which I don't have to hand, and another half a feeling that Aphex has always made a big effort not to say

DJ Mencap, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

I LOVE DRUKQS+

Jordan, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 21:58 (eleven years ago) link

my foot hurts, so i don't feel like getting up to get my cd. but there is no booklet in my copy. just a piece of paper with the cover on one side and blank on the other. did earlier pressings come with liner notes or something?

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 21:59 (eleven years ago) link

yours truly,

Ludo

haha! thank you. i needed that laugh this afternoon!

also, i like ludo's answer to the question he poses. is aphex twin classic or dud? no, i don't think so.

andrew m., Tuesday, 1 April 2008 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

There's no mention of recording dates or anything like that. Actually, it's hard to even figure out the track titles by the packaging alone.

Z S, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

really?

i can see the track names fine on mine. i have the pias reissue. the back has the aphex logo rearranged to look like a smiling face, with the track names in a bold grey font.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150539-1162907302.jpeg

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

i used the wrong code thingy.

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150539-1162907302.jpeg

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

oh, fiddlesticks.

Creeztophair, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

three weeks pass...

best thread i ever started. :)

Ludo, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 07:25 (eleven years ago) link

so what's going on with this band, did they break up?

latebloomer, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 07:34 (eleven years ago) link

Reformed as The Tuss with some Cornish women.

Scik Mouthy, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 12:06 (eleven years ago) link

I still listening to the Polygon Window LP on a monthly basis.

Mr. Goodman, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 12:45 (eleven years ago) link

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RZ0Ldfv4xyc

needs to get released.

MRZBW, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

best thread i ever started. :)

Ludo

-- Ludo, Tuesday, April 22, 2008 3:25 AM (15 hours ago)

^fixed

am0n, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

V/VM Help Aphex Twins volumes 1 and 2 remain the best thing he's done since 1996.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

by which I mean both V/VM, Richard D James and Jesus the Christ as well.

El Tomboto, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:10 (eleven years ago) link

^fixed

:D

i was thinking 'bout it myself, why did i do that? i have no clue.

Ludo

Ludo, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 10:01 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

just got chosen lords
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/funny-pictures-cat-headphones-god.jpg

and what, Saturday, 5 July 2008 23:33 (eleven years ago) link

I was so underwhelmed by chosen lords, I have no idea why it was so received so well, and so unanimously so. Although I might very well be more into it today, in all fairness.

mehlt, Sunday, 6 July 2008 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

b/c it is gr8

Curt1s Stephens, Sunday, 6 July 2008 00:06 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

I want to hear Karen Tregaskin's opinion.

Big K.R.U.T. (Curt1s Stephens), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:53 (nine years ago) link

Yes, I am quite interested as well.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 16:54 (nine years ago) link

the cun shines out of my behind

http://xltronic.com/nostalgia/aphextwin.nu/v4/visuals/rdj/rdj-09.jpg

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:44 (nine years ago) link

Totally off topic, but has anyone else had the misfortune to stand next to a very odorous Luke Vibert? Dude smells so bad. I wonder if Mr. Twin smells as bad as Vibert. Now That's What I Call Funky!

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:49 (nine years ago) link

you think that's bad you should check out what he tastes like

Karen Tregaskin, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 17:56 (nine years ago) link

4 fans of analrods:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6wKGtWJ4-o

xpost

ur not funny btw

rionat, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:02 (nine years ago) link

Still think On EP is highlight of career. Warp version, of course.

kate moss and heavy machinery in a dessert (Stevie D), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:16 (nine years ago) link

i smoked a joint with vibert once but did not smell any foul odour

sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:19 (nine years ago) link

I love Vibert and have been called a dirty hippy myself many times before. My observation is in no way meant to diss Vibert. He's awesome. I still covet the early bits and pieces of his catalogue and have paid to see him live multiple times since the body odor incident.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 12 January 2010 18:35 (nine years ago) link

love the GAK, and that one may be my favorite

andrew m., Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:05 (nine years ago) link

five months pass...

Man, I dunno. It sure looks like it to me.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/kingkonggodzilla/qdobatwin.jpg

kkvgz, Friday, 25 June 2010 16:41 (nine years ago) link

Hi, Richard.

Cornish Kraffthwyrken (Masonic Boom), Friday, 25 June 2010 16:48 (nine years ago) link

ten months pass...

Embarking on a "Best of Aphex Twin (Cornwall holiday version)" ...

djh, Sunday, 8 May 2011 15:01 (eight years ago) link

What, see if you can hike from Portreath Harbour to Carn Marth?

Karin Treijer-Gaskersson (Karen D. Tregaskin), Sunday, 8 May 2011 20:12 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

"You've got so many machines, Richard"
"I 'aven't got that many..."

Turns out the talking on the "Mummy Mix" of Come To Daddy was actually his mum? If he's not lying his head off (and really, even if he is) <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

http://soundcloud.com/waphitxen/sets/aphex-twin-interview-live-1/

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:28 (eight years ago) link

seems likely, she's on Drukqs as well so

i'm sorry for whatever (Noodle Vague), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:33 (eight years ago) link

aphex twin classics or drukqs?

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:35 (eight years ago) link

Thing is, her accent on Drukqs sounds so different from the person speaking on the Mummy Mix (esp with the pitch shifting and all) sounds so different that I didn't recognise her.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:37 (eight years ago) link

some ppl sound quite different on the (answer)phone

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:38 (eight years ago) link

has anything happened since one of the warp ppl said a new aphex twin album is in the works (last yr iirc?)

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:39 (eight years ago) link

Not really, no. Vibert claimed to have heard some of the new tracks for the album, so there is ~something~ but who knows when anyone will pry it out of Richard's little mitts.

I'm going to squee about how cute and gentle and ever so slightly Cornish accented his voice sounds here, because if I'm going to be thrown off WATMM if I do any more fangirling.

Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!

I always knew he did 95% of his own singing, as well. like, people are always "who's the girl singing on some of the tracks on SAW85?" and it's just so patently obviously him, when you hear his speaking voice. So I'm glad that he says it's almost always him.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 17:42 (eight years ago) link

He was supposed to have a "tsunami"* of releases ready to go last year.

*Trying to remember if this was the phrase used, might have been something else.

djh, Friday, 29 July 2011 19:40 (eight years ago) link

Well, first it was that one album for Warp. Then in the Another Man interview, he said he had six albums, all ready to go. And then in an interview with a Spanish broadsheet, he started talking about how he had FIFTEEN albums, and it just started to sound like typical RDJ exaggeration and lies, you know? Especially since his excuse for why he hadn't released any of the albums was all "I waited to get divorced" so his family didn't get any of the money, followed by "my ex wife is robbing me" and other assorted "the divorce ate my homework" bullshit excuses which actually started to sound kinda pathetic but if I start to think too much about how shitty it is to talk that way about yr ex wife when you have kids, I'm going to start to feel distinctly un-squee and quite cross about him, which I really don't want to feel.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 20:15 (eight years ago) link

Why do I even know this gossipy shit? I wish I didn't, sometimes.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 20:18 (eight years ago) link

are you sure he was actually married?

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 July 2011 20:26 (eight years ago) link

anyway i'm glad you know this stuff because it saves me the ever-dispiriting biannual trawl thru aphex twin fansites in seach of granules of information

MY WEEDS STRONG BLUD.mp3 (nakhchivan), Friday, 29 July 2011 20:27 (eight years ago) link

He was definitely married. I even knew his wife's name, that's how uber-damn-sad-fan I am.

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Friday, 29 July 2011 20:30 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Also, happy 40th birthday, hope you have a nice midlife crisis, Mr Twin.

</sad pathetic fangurl>

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 18 August 2011 09:37 (eight years ago) link

So, going on past results, someone needs to break in and steal copies (ropey ones, mind) of these 15 albums, then he might actually release them to his label or some such other.

Mark G, Thursday, 18 August 2011 09:48 (eight years ago) link

I kinda feel like they *might* all be garbage

frogbs, Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:12 (eight years ago) link

i have the same fear/feeling.

I don't. He's been playing some amazing unreleased stuff at his recent gigs, and if that's any indication, it'll be wonderful.

::continues to drift on in a giant bubble of heart-on::

Aphex Twin … in my vagina? (Karen D. Tregaskin), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:06 (eight years ago) link

ten months pass...

So he's bringing that remote controlled orchestra of disco balls Reich thing to England. Finally.

I appear to have a ticket for it.

(Whether I actually go or not is another story. It wouldn't be the first time I bought a ticket to see him, then backed out, from job or fear or nerves or anxiety or just plain stupidity. I am telling myself he probably won't even be there. And it will be a seated gig therefore not too anxiety inducing.)

((I am super glad it is the Reich thing, and not the Penderecki thing.))

(((also.... EEEEEEEP! I have not been this squee-ish about a concert since I was a teenager.)))

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 28 June 2012 09:20 (seven years ago) link

Also, they have knocked down his house. It's so weird sitting on the Thameslink being able to stare down into what used to be his bank vault as the diggers fill it in. This makes me feel v v v crepey even if it's not my fault that Thameslink stops for 10 minutes just outside the Elephant every day.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Thursday, 28 June 2012 09:24 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

I was watching "Heathers" for the first time in 20 years, and got this real sense of deja vu at parts of David Newman's score. Like, check this very SAWII-style clip, beginning around the :30 mark:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhpTbVbvD1M&feature=relmfu

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 11 August 2012 21:41 (seven years ago) link

Sounds like a cross between Goon Gumpas and one of the ones on the last quarter of SAWII, yeah, but that might just be the pizzicato strings.

sorry for asshole (dog latin), Monday, 13 August 2012 09:19 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

So the Barbican thing is tonight. I should be feeling a lot more excited about this.

(I think mostly it's physical I've not been well and my ear has been giving me problems and it just doesn't seem fair that the first time I see Mr Twin I will only be able to *hear* half of it.)

Since I stopped reading the Phanboys I haven't really been able to keep up with what he's been up to lately. It's the remote orchestra thing so I don't know what to expect, or if indeed he will even be there, or conducting remotely from a bunker in Wales.

I still feel disappointed about not going to the Bangface thing in Cornwall but, y'know, Bangface. Bleurgh.

Help me get more excited. (Why am I asking this on ILM? Of course you won't.)

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:02 (six years ago) link

Eh, well, I didn't know about this.

I know what you mean about Bangface. I've never actually been but if it's anything like the Planet-µ night I attended several years ago now, there's an intense level of fawning geekery pervasive throughout the night, and not in a pleasant way. I don't really know what Aphex fans are like these days mind you.

As for the Barbican, I'm sure it'll be good once you're there, right?

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:14 (six years ago) link

That's not really what I meant about Bangface at all, but um whevs.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:20 (six years ago) link

sometimes going in with low expectations is better than being all hyper? better to be surprised than let down. also

conducting a 28-piece string section and a 12-strong choir by remote control

ought to be a treat whoever's doing the conductoring

vegetarian beef (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:21 (six years ago) link

also i assume there's seats. i'm all about gigs where i can sit down.

vegetarian beef (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:22 (six years ago) link

Yes, there are seats. This is the A No.1 thing I am most happy about. If memory serves, it is actually a front row ticket. That might be awkward, so I'm glad he's conducting remotely.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:23 (six years ago) link

Damnit, time was I'd have been all over a gig like this. I've seen Aphex silent DJing in the Barbican conservatory, Scanner on a Routemaster, all the Warp London parties. First thing I heard about this was someone on facebook last week saying it was sold out. So you should be excited, it's exciting! Aphex! The Barbican! Remote Orchestra! Whatever the hell that is!

ledge, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:24 (six years ago) link

maybe he'll be...sat amongst the crowd. DA DA DAAAAAAAAH

vegetarian beef (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:25 (six years ago) link

I would suggest going early to see the rain thing there but queues for it are prett crazy atm and probably everyone else will have had the same idea.

ledge, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:27 (six years ago) link

I was trying to get in the mood listening to SAWs on the bus. But it's not going to be SAWs, it's going to be something completely new and different and orchestral. So I should be excited about that aspect, that it will probably be completely unpredictable and unexpected, no matter what he is doing.

What is the rain thing? I have a couple of hours to kill but I hate queueing.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:28 (six years ago) link

http://www.barbican.org.uk/artgallery/event-detail.asp?ID=13723

ledge, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:29 (six years ago) link

TWO HOUR QUEUE TIMES?!?!?!?

I haven't got that much time to kill. Looks cool, tho.

But after experiencing Orcadian rainstorms last week I am not really keen to experience any more rain, art or no.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 09:31 (six years ago) link

"I know what you mean about Bangface. I've never actually been but if it's anything like the Planet-µ night I attended several years ago now, there's an intense level of fawning geekery pervasive throughout the night, and not in a pleasant way. I don't really know what Aphex fans are like these days mind you."

No no no. Bangface is full of young people off their tits on ridiculous amounts of drugs lots of nakedness drawing on each other silly sweaty dancing glowsticks very very trash dreadlocks gurning that sort of thing. I tend to go once every... few years.

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:08 (six years ago) link

^^^that is what I suspected about Bangface, so the combination of Bangface plus Newquay was just one of those... "um, just, no." moments for me.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:13 (six years ago) link

I had fun at the club nights back in the day but (I think I posted this before somewhere) people's descriptions of previous Bangface festivals reminded me of what you read about, like, Deadheads in the 80s, after the good times had gone and it was just burnouts

No no no. Bangface is full of young people off their tits on ridiculous amounts of drugs lots of nakedness drawing on each other silly sweaty dancing glowsticks very very trash dreadlocks gurning that sort of thing. I tend to go once every... few years.

― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 12:08 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Oh well that's okay then. Rather a bunch of mental ravers dancing about than a room full of sweaty dorks crowing for obscure Wagon Christ B-sides.

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:25 (six years ago) link

Oh just fucking shut up.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:27 (six years ago) link

you're not a very nice person, you know that?

This Is... The Police (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:28 (six years ago) link

Like, we get it, how over IDM you are.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:28 (six years ago) link

I'm just really sick of how you feel the need to come on any thread and stomp all over anyone's possible joy or excitement over it. I get it, you're not into this any more. You're allowed to move on and leave it to other people. You don't have to ruin it for everyone else.

Oh god why the fuck am I even talking to Dog Latin?

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:30 (six years ago) link

If I'm feeling iffy about a gig or an artist, ILM is the worst possible place I could come. Why do I never learn this? Stupid me for not learning after 1000 times.

White Chocolate Cheesecake, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:32 (six years ago) link

Um sorry but I don't think DL was doing any stomping at all, given that all he did was get the demographics of the Bangface crowd wrong.

Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 11:40 (six years ago) link

three months pass...

Meantime, a little flashback to 1993:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgdYh7rgEmQ

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 February 2013 14:48 (six years ago) link

jesus what happened up there ^^^^

frogbs, Friday, 8 February 2013 14:51 (six years ago) link

british humour

Crackle Box, Friday, 8 February 2013 15:12 (six years ago) link

woah just looked at two threads in one day featuring poster Ludo. weeeyerd.

andrew m., Friday, 8 February 2013 16:54 (six years ago) link

Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?

Mark G, Friday, 8 February 2013 16:58 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Heard "Actium" on a big system yesterday. Sounded fantastic, was suprisingly danceable, and holy hell that's a lot of bass.

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 29 April 2013 03:31 (six years ago) link

Am I allowed to say "I miss the Old Trout, Windsor" again?

you sure can... so many memories for me too

I was at that Aphex Twin gig... i remember a load of the indie/rave kids being REALLY freaked out by all the noise stuff he was playing, and me and one other bloke (who happened to be wearing a Hafler Trio t-shirt) being really into it....

Stop the tape I got spittle all over my moustache. (Talcum Mucker), Wednesday, 1 May 2013 19:07 (six years ago) link

eleven months pass...

been taken down already

narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:05 (five years ago) link

either that or someone has already bought it

narcissism of vas deferenses (NickB), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:05 (five years ago) link

says that the four ppl who own that are RDJ, Grant from Rephlex, Cylob and u-Ziq. it would be rude to speculate which if any of those individuals might need the money the most

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:18 (five years ago) link

seller write-up says it's the 5th copy

original bgm, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:48 (five years ago) link

reading upthread, drukqs dismissed as "leftovers"... huh. is this still a perception held by people?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:21 (five years ago) link

I seem to recall that yes, that was a commonly held perception at the time, but I'd agree people have largely given up that fight and given in to the album over the last 13 (!) years.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:23 (five years ago) link

seller write-up says it's the 5th copy

that's funny, because 29 discogs users claim to own it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:25 (five years ago) link

Huh, on wikipedia:

In an October 2010 interview with British magazine Another Man, James stated that he had completed 6 albums, one of which was a remake of the unreleased Melodies from Mars, originally produced around the time of Richard D. James Album.[25] In June 2011, he spoke to Spanish magazine EL PAIS. When asked about the 6 albums, he answered 'More than 10 or 11 are already compiled, and many more songs are orphans.' He also revealed that a new album 'will show in a while' and that the reason it has been so long since his last album was that he was waiting for a divorce from his wife.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:25 (five years ago) link

Ha, I didn't hear this one, either:

In November 1995, The Wire published an article titled "Advice to Clever Children". In the process of producing the interview, a package of tapes containing music from several artists, including Aphex Twin, was sent to Karlheinz Stockhausen.

Stockhausen commented:
I heard the piece Aphex Twin of Richard James (sic) carefully: I think it would be very helpful if he listens to my work "Song of the Youth", which is electronic music, and a young boy's voice singing with himself. Because he would then immediately stop with all these post-African repetitions, and he would look for changing tempi and changing rhythms, and he would not allow to repeat any rhythm if it varied to some extent and if it did not have a direction in its sequence of variations.[42]

Aphex Twin, a fan of Stockhausen, responded:
"I thought he should listen to a couple of tracks of mine: "Digeridoo", then he'd stop making abstract, random patterns you can't dance to".[42]

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:28 (five years ago) link

the reason it has been so long since his last album was that he was waiting for a divorce from his wife

Think he was determined to wait until there was no chance of her being able to claim a cut of revenue from releases, yeah

Brakhage, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:33 (five years ago) link

lol at the RDJ/Stockhausen exchange.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:36 (five years ago) link

the nme gave drukqs 9/10 while most of the people who ought to have known better misunderstood it

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:42 (five years ago) link

it would be rude to speculate which if any of those individuals might need the money the most
― From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 13:18

def cylob

am0n, Tuesday, 8 April 2014 21:58 (five years ago) link

that's funny, because 29 discogs users claim to own it

FLAC rips?

Ned Zeppelin (Leee), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:00 (five years ago) link

FLAC rips?

sounds like an RDJ title

lauded at conferences of deluded psychopaths (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:01 (five years ago) link

when in his career has RDJ not claimed to have stacks of unreleased material ready to go?

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 April 2014 22:07 (five years ago) link

Stacks of unreleased material generally means loads of crap that needs some quality control (an issue he's had through most of his career when he was actually releasing shit). I bet his 6 albums+ of stuff could probably be reduced down to 1 album and 3 EPs of awesomeness.

octobeard, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 00:28 (five years ago) link

last two posts OTM. I never did get to know Analord in the end because the whole exercise felt a bit tl;dl

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:23 (five years ago) link

I would love it if he just released a concise 12-track album soon. It's been 18 years or something since RDJ Album.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:24 (five years ago) link

Why would you want to edit down his albums though? They all "work" as albums and I take issue with the idea that there is lots of filler.

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:33 (five years ago) link

The point is, in the last decade+ he's had a habit of not releasing anything for ages and then spoodging out a huge glut of material in one go. It's not always gold either and even dedicated fans have trouble negotiating it. I still don't think Druqks works as an album, more like five different albums on shuffle. Analord has a few ace moments but I never could get up the patience to listen to all 10 releases to find them. I have to say I preferred it when he stuck to a singular style over the course of one LP (SAW/RDJ Album) or did a chocolate-box thing (Windowlicker/ICBYD) over the course of a shorter work. But these sprawling things like Druqks and Analord, I just find them a bit of a slog.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:48 (five years ago) link

but octobeard was saying that ALL his records could do with that kind of editing, which is wrong IMO. Maybe Drukqs could do with this, though I think that's debatable. I admit to have never taken on Analords, perhaps for the reasons you alude to.

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 09:52 (five years ago) link

I wouldn't say ALL his records need trimming, if anything it's a shame that some iterations of SAWII had to have tracks cut from them. But yeah, RDJ started suffering from the same disease as Squarepusher after a while and seemed to be releasing stuff with little adherence to quality control. I liked his approach on the RDJ Album where he was going for extremely tight compositions with a strict 'no fannydangle' rule, meaning he could release an album of 10 3-4 minute tracks and get all his ideas in at once.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 10:02 (five years ago) link

the analords are fantastic. i like hearing him do more process-based acid traxx about as much as his more thoroughly edited conventional album-oriented music.

clouds, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 12:58 (five years ago) link

Think I'd have preferred Analord if it had been a single-EP release or something in the vein of Analogue Bubblebath 3 under the AFX name (it's Aphex Twin, right?). I'm aware of the Chosen Lords comp, but from what I heard the track choices were somewhat arbitrary and skipped out a lot of good stuff.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 13:25 (five years ago) link

I thought the Analord releases were great! I didn't find them a slog at all. The aesthetic is also totally unified and consistent, as opposed to Drukqs, where there are indeed at least three distinct styles lobbying for attention.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 13:29 (five years ago) link

i like the grab bag tho

is "cohesiveness" necessarily a sign of "artistic integrity"?

clouds, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:00 (five years ago) link

Probably not, but it is conspicuous from an artist who seriously or not has claimed that he's just handed random DATs and whatnot to labels when pressed for material or remixes.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:02 (five years ago) link

ICBYD is a grab bag and I love that. Feel like Druqks could have been released as maybe two shortish albums and an experimental EP.

I have a theory that 'cohesiveness' is a quality which has come to be more synonymous with artistic integrity since the end of the nineties.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 14:30 (five years ago) link

think he shd release what he likes how he likes but i'm a feckless libertarian so

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:24 (five years ago) link

bbbut what about this notional idea of "cohesion"?????

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:25 (five years ago) link

Cohesiveness is almost by definition a good quality unless lack of cohesion is what you're after. And even then, I'm not sure how much I rate lack of cohesion as an attribute worth regularly pursuing. But something that's all over the place can still be "cohesive:" White Album, etc. So who knows. I just in the case of RDJ lack of cohesion can mostly be read as "jarring juxtapositions." But that can be cool too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:28 (five years ago) link

one of the few things i miss about Ye Olde Napstere 1.0 was d/ling loads of alleged Aphex tracks and pondering whether they were genuine and whether i cared

twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:54 (five years ago) link

if u need architectonic integrity then the plaintive second analord ep of phonatacid / laricheared / pissed up in se1 / bwoon dub is as perfect a 25mins or so of music as anyone released in the last decade

Little Saint Hugh of Lincoln (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:55 (five years ago) link

one of the few things i miss about Ye Olde Napstere 1.0 was d/ling loads of alleged Aphex tracks and pondering whether they were genuine and whether i cared

― twistent consistent (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, April 9, 2014 4:54 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I had a lot of success with one of my homemade rare Boards of Canada tracks back in 2000.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 15:59 (five years ago) link

fact article : april 1st.

hmmm ??

mark e, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:03 (five years ago) link

Oh dear, didn't actually look at the date on that, was wondering why it hadn't been bigger news.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:05 (five years ago) link

Ha.

Totally disappointed tho, would have been a great twist in the story.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:15 (five years ago) link

the variety and sequence of tracks on Drukqs is one of its best attributes, imo. the disklavier songs, and the more ambient/incidental/noodly bits provide a necessary relief from the denser, hyper-detailed drum and bass stuff. the 'inconsistency' makes it more engaging than something like Exai, which gets tedious.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:22 (five years ago) link

think the name of the track, 'avril 1st' kinda gives it away as well.

does sound plausible though ..

xpost : have now added the usa edition of afx analogue bubblebath (tvt records!) to the archive as i had forgotten i have it, and going to try and listen to drukqs all way through now.
never managed it before.

mark e, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:25 (five years ago) link

I somehow skimmed over the track name in favour of the fake dude's story itself.

Was he really carrying the only copies of certain tracks round on one MP3 player though? That sounds like bullshit in any case.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:29 (five years ago) link

well, if its good enough for u2..

and those gadgets weren't cheap back then.

mark e, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:36 (five years ago) link

It was a DAT iirc but he's the biggest fibber of his generation. I guess you couldn't get away with some of the urban mythology he built up around himself now. Thanks Internet.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 16:38 (five years ago) link

The analords are were all great! A return to form, imo.

Anybody heard this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joyrex_Tape

brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 17:26 (five years ago) link

this seems pretty like a pretty thorough rundown of all the rare/unreleased stuff: http://rareafx.wordpress.com

brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 17:27 (five years ago) link

did RDJ have a departure from form?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 17:41 (five years ago) link

yeah, I don't know about "return to form" but overall I think the analord stuff is probably his best work. It just takes some time to work your way through it.

silverfish, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 17:49 (five years ago) link

not really, but i was let down by druqks and then with smojface it was like "i don't want this"

brimstead, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 17:54 (five years ago) link

analords series is a joy. as the years go on i keep finding myself liking things by richard that i'd previously dismissed. saying that feel like the stars in the correct alignment for a new record this year :-p

Crackle Box, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 18:33 (five years ago) link

I always assumed the Analord stuff was about buttlove, which tbh scared me away.

Call the Doctorb, the B is for Brownstein (Leee), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 18:36 (five years ago) link

http://youtu.be/z72ie2nCxb4

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 19:12 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycbIvd80NAI

cheeseburger, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 19:36 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0YyBp8ZyeE

He's inconsistent but Windowlicker alone is enough to call him classic.

cheeseburger, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 19:48 (five years ago) link

in related news (not an April Fools' joke afaict):

http://pitchfork.com/news/54714-aphex-twin-unreleased-album-caustic-window-to-be-sold-digitally-on-kickstarter-physically-on-ebay/

sleeve, Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:44 (five years ago) link

revive was a discogs listing of that record. Two separate sales makes me suspicious, though maybe Cylob has decided to cash his chips

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:50 (five years ago) link

ah I see, it's a kickstarter thing. all sounds a bit dodgy to me.

Angkor Waht (Neil S), Wednesday, 9 April 2014 20:51 (five years ago) link

Okay, yeah I didn't mean to say ALL his work could use editing, but there's few records that don't: SAW 85-92, ICBYD, HAB, RDJ, and CTD. The rest, including nearly every EP, and even SAW II, I feel could use some quality control. These releases seem to put tracks on display that are either outright attempts to troll their audience by taking the piss, or a classic case of RDJ lacking any person in power with the ability to tell him "dude, wtf.. we can't release this." To be fair, most of those same releases also exhibit at least one absolute classic. However, it helps to be wildly popular amongst kleptomaniac music fans and to own your own record label to enable these traits. Fuck, I can't blame the bloke.. if I were him I'd totally release an album full of sampled toilet flushes and nothing else just to see how many copies it'd sell

octobeard, Thursday, 10 April 2014 07:27 (five years ago) link

Of course I don't think he'd be considered the same way if he'd only ever released quality tunes. There was always a 'jellybean' effect to his output which meant you were forced to take the rough with the smooth and which in context made a track like Knieval parsable to the dedicated Aphex fan. My problem with Druqks was that it was more like a jar that promised 'every flavour' but was mostly made up of the same 2-3 flavours. I'll quite with the analogies now.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Thursday, 10 April 2014 08:54 (five years ago) link

Can you imagine what a complete collection of Boards of Canada's early Music70 LPs would fetch? Good lord

octobeard, Saturday, 12 April 2014 09:42 (five years ago) link

http://www.mixcloud.com/keyfumbler/

somebody culled a bunch of live sets.. some dope, Tuss-y workouts in the Metz and Minehead sets, makes one wish he'd release the newer stuff, as it's ultra high quality. see: "the metz track"

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 12 April 2014 18:35 (five years ago) link

Metz, Paris is great but the key takeaway for me on that page is that Aphex has been playing a bunch of live shows over the last ten years and I've wasted my life.

ugh (lukas), Sunday, 13 April 2014 00:19 (five years ago) link

after this thread was revived i spotted the double vinyl SAWII set on brown vinyl sitting unloved in a local shop.

however, seller wanted £95 for it.

i aint that keen.

mark e, Sunday, 13 April 2014 09:24 (five years ago) link

the vinyls sounds like crap anyway.

i lost my shoes on acid (jed_), Sunday, 13 April 2014 19:29 (five years ago) link

I have the brown vinyl and can confirm it sounds crap. I always liked to try and convince myself that Aphex had intended it to be a dodgy pressing to add an extra layer of "ambient noise" and that it was, of course, far superior to the CD version...
...it's not, it's just a dodgy pressing.

ringworm, Monday, 14 April 2014 09:41 (five years ago) link

Why is it that a lot of people who don't like dance music like Aphex Twin

paolo, Monday, 14 April 2014 10:41 (five years ago) link

If I tell someone who's into rock music that I like house and techno they'll quite often say 'oh I like Aphex Twin'

paolo, Monday, 14 April 2014 10:42 (five years ago) link

Probably because his brand of conceptualism goes against what is considered to be the norm in 'proper' house and techno. Also because his historic pranks, interviews and the way he markets himself are more in line with rock/pop traditions of identity whereas house and techno often strives to erase the author and let the music speak for itself without attachment to a personality.

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Monday, 14 April 2014 11:42 (five years ago) link

idk I don't like house or techno but I like Aphex (and others) because they don't just go UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS for ten minutes

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 14 April 2014 12:26 (five years ago) link

so you haven't actually heard any house or techno, got it.

clouds, Monday, 14 April 2014 12:30 (five years ago) link

I don't think most people think of Aphex Twin's music as dance music so I don't know why it would be weird to not like dance music but to like Aphex Twin

silverfish, Monday, 14 April 2014 12:59 (five years ago) link

maybe not! but I will never let reality get in the way of dismissing entire sub-genres for arbitrary and/or inaccurate reasons

ultros ultros-ghali, Monday, 14 April 2014 13:00 (five years ago) link

it's 2014, are these the best trolls we cd get?

waterflow ductile laser beam (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:42 (five years ago) link

what if they went ULTROS ULTROS ULTROS ULTROS for ten minutes

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:46 (five years ago) link

'Aphex Twin's Historic Pranks' would be a good intermittent Viz strip along the lines of Elton John's series of smalltime scams

From Tha Crouuuch To Da Palacios (DJ Mencap), Monday, 14 April 2014 13:48 (five years ago) link

Why is it that a lot of people who don't like dance music like Aphex Twin

Because Radiohead and Kanye.

Seriously, though, I was playing "Drukqs" a year or so ago, and someone I was with perked up at "Avril 14th" and recognized it as the song Kanye sampled.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 14 April 2014 14:35 (five years ago) link

Aphex Twins lustige Streiche

clouds, Monday, 14 April 2014 22:36 (five years ago) link

I like the UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS type of dance music, and I don't like Aphex (except for some early tracks, when he was still making UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS music), so I guess there's truth to this.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 11:47 (five years ago) link

smelly unts

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 11:50 (five years ago) link

I misread that as "UNITS UNITS UNITS UNITS" and I thought, man, songs that are nothing but units, units, units, units are pretty much my favourite thing in the world, whether it's techno or dronerock or what.

Branwell Bell, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 12:26 (five years ago) link

Unts Unts Unts <---- going to use that for a song title

Eats like Elvis, shits like De Niro (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 12:27 (five years ago) link

Because Radiohead and Kanye.

Seriously, though, I was playing "Drukqs" a year or so ago, and someone I was with perked up at "Avril 14th" and recognized it as the song Kanye sampled.

It was the case before Kid A or Drukqs though. His stuff often obeys some of the 'rules' of rock and works in a non club/dance context. This album cover explains it pretty well, really.

http://media.warp.net/images/WARPCD6.jpg

Also I don't think having an aversion to UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS is necessarily a rockist or luddite reaction. It's more like the guy who asked What's with that constant cymbal tapping in jazz drumming?. I can see where he's coming from sometimes - a few times I've been in Germany or Holland and the constant immersion in (usually pretty lousy) techno can start to grate.

B-Boy Bualadh Bos (ecuador_with_a_c), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 12:44 (five years ago) link

Unts Unts Unts <---- going to use that for a song title

check the b-side on this 1998 single

brock out with your cock out (sic), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 13:02 (five years ago) link

BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and BOOTS and CATS and

1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 April 2014 13:22 (five years ago) link

Also I don't think having an aversion to UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS is necessarily a rockist or luddite reaction.

it's not even a reaction worth considering. "reaction" implies familiarity. it's tantamount to saying "i hate japanese films because they're all about samurai"

it's maybe surprising that ppl still lump house and techno together under the banner of "dumb dance music" using some spurious hierarchization of "depth" in music. it also has frankly homophobic undertones to me (house arose out of gay post-disco subculture, gay culture is vapid, consumerist, etc.)

clouds, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 14:00 (five years ago) link

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a6/Sprad/XTAL_zpsdb12d2cc.jpg

xtal

Milton Parker, Tuesday, 15 April 2014 18:45 (five years ago) link

i was just listening to delphium and thinking how great it would sound mixed into quadrant dub

clouds, Wednesday, 16 April 2014 11:53 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

"Crazy weekend. Need to put on something old and comforting."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGEQ9Hjr4c0

ugh (lukas), Monday, 16 June 2014 04:37 (five years ago) link

mostly just a lol old moment, that album will be able to vote come november

ugh (lukas), Monday, 16 June 2014 06:16 (five years ago) link

i always thought it was unce unce unce rather than unts tbh

doctrine the house (electricsound), Monday, 16 June 2014 06:38 (five years ago) link

i listened to the richard d james album just a couple of weeks ago and it sounded better than ever imo

macklin' rosie (crüt), Monday, 16 June 2014 07:01 (five years ago) link

that album will be able to vote come november

oof

am0n, Monday, 16 June 2014 21:05 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk7Q7nYJpS8

am0n, Monday, 16 June 2014 21:09 (five years ago) link

is it just me or does the vinyl rip not sound that great

(talking about the mp3s, not the YT)

ugh (lukas), Monday, 16 June 2014 23:07 (five years ago) link

this rules?

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 04:13 (five years ago) link

i listened to the richard d james album just a couple of weeks ago and it sounded better than ever imo

― macklin' rosie (crüt), Monday, June 16, 2014 8:01 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Me too. Such a tight little record. The definition of getting things over and done with in as little time possible. Also, b/w Come To Daddy on the CD-R rip I was given by a mate when I was 16, very possibly the record that changed my life.

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 08:25 (five years ago) link

xp - wow this is actually ace. Could this be the first lost album living up to its own myth?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 08:35 (five years ago) link

so this is actually happening, the lost Caustic Window record? When is it coming out?

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 09:25 (five years ago) link

So this is finally available for listening, and I don't have the bandwidth to even hear it?

you go PUNCHING yourself in... THE DICK! (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 09:31 (five years ago) link

Airflow is great!

piscesx, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 12:15 (five years ago) link

think i like this one best

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TISHfHDLtmc

am0n, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 14:24 (five years ago) link

yessssss

macklin' rosie (crüt), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 14:48 (five years ago) link

i can't believe the entire board isn't FREAKING OUT to this right now

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 00:13 (five years ago) link

http://www.stereogum.com/1687220/stream-aphex-twin-caustic-window/mp3s/album-stream/

http://www.stereogum.com/1687357/premature-evaluation-aphex-twin-caustic-window/franchises/premature-evaluation/

It became exceedingly clear to me during my initial listen of Caustic Window that there have been a large number of timeless Richard D. James productions collecting dust on the CAT023 test pressings all of this time. “Fingertrips” is a queasy, 808-fueled gem that would’ve reigned over the underground rave scene had it been released in the ’90s. “Mumbly” and “Fingry” ride the same kind of neon-hued wavelength, but take that warehouse-ready vibe further into the dark with shadowy dancefloor beats, incandescent synth pads, and the sense of unbridled experimentation that has fueled RDJ’s entire illustrious career. Perhaps the biggest surprise, however, is “101 Rainbows (Ambient Mix),” a wispy and beatless synth composition that ushers out the final quarter of Caustic Window. Almost nine minutes long, the piece plays like a Steve Reich or Philip Glass classic, folding together tapestries of weightless arpeggiations and weaving gossamer flute sounds through the synthetic patchwork. It’s impossible to say which of Caustic Window’s tracks will eventually outlive the excitement and media frenzy around their release—though, if I had to put my money on it, I’d say “101 Rainbows (Ambient Mix)” is the strongest contender. But regardless of past, present, or future accolades, lingering questions, and potential volumes of unreleased music, the fact of the matter is that we now have a brand-new and sizable chunk of Richard D. James’ recorded work readily available for us to hear. It may be released under the name Caustic Window, but many of these tracks are pure Aphex Twin magic that would’ve been an integral part of his collective legacy had they appeared in 1996. As such, it’s sort of unbelievable that we actually have these songs at our fingertips now, and we should cherish Caustic Window like the unearthed treasure it rightfully is.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 00:14 (five years ago) link

YSI FLAC PLZ

polyamanita (sleeve), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 00:17 (five years ago) link

i can't believe the entire board isn't FREAKING OUT to this right now

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
OTM! ***squee!!!****

brimstead, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 01:45 (five years ago) link

no this is terrible, it means Luke V and Mike P have been telling the truth all these years about top-notch work just sitting around unreleased

ugh (lukas), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 01:49 (five years ago) link

there's more and he's not sharing, let's just go in and TAKE IT

oh i guess that's what the tank is for hmm

ugh (lukas), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 01:51 (five years ago) link

101 rainbows oh my god

aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 02:25 (five years ago) link

He's like a Picasso of electronic music, except he keeps 80% of his music to himself. UGH... Perhaps his DATs will be raided once he croaks.

octobeard, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 04:22 (five years ago) link

now obsessed with aphex twin

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 06:10 (five years ago) link

sorry, where are all these being held or are they youtube only?

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 08:45 (five years ago) link

it's the one they had that kickstarter campaign for:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/watmmofficial/cat023-caustic-window-own-the-legendary-record-by

i guess one of the backers put it on youtube.

koogs, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:00 (five years ago) link

don't really know the whole story but at this point why doesn't Warp or whoever just release this and get it over with?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:07 (five years ago) link

baitin

sci-fi looking, chubby-leafed, delicately bizarre (contenderizer), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:16 (five years ago) link

Caustic Window - G1 - 101 Rainbows (Ambient Mix)

:O

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:31 (five years ago) link

"An ambient track. This was a reject from SAW85-92 and is unspeakably lovely. A monophonic synth weaves around soft flutes to devastating effect. The synth filter opens & closes to emphasise the riff at certain times, & the flute goes freestyle towards the end. Metallic percussion invades the song at times complementing the groovy momentum gathered by the main riff."

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:33 (five years ago) link

Caustic Window - C2 - Squidge In The Fridge is also really great.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:40 (five years ago) link

Hm. I wasn't too interested in this "lost" record, but it's excellent. Interesting how good it all sounds after so long.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 10:05 (five years ago) link

There's a good quality zip - well, enough for these ears at least - out there if you G00gle it.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 11:26 (five years ago) link

i can't believe the entire board isn't FREAKING OUT to this right now

― Karl Malone, Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:13 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I know what you mean, I can get a bit offended sometimes when the Roland Kayn thread goes more than a few days without someone waking it up

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 12:31 (five years ago) link

I'm glad this is out there but it's weird no one's talking about the ethical aspects of its release. I got into an argument with a Pitchfork writer on Twitter who was criticizing RDJ for "forcing" fans to pay thousands of dollars for this instead of, I guess, putting it out for free or normal purchase when it became clear that it was going to be made available anyways. Which I think is a weird criticism, given that he didn't want this to come out in the first place and couldn't really be said to be "forcing" anyone to do anything.

Immediate Follower (NA), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:29 (five years ago) link

It's also difficult to untangle fact and fiction as usual...

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:39 (five years ago) link

yeah, I STILL can't shake the feeling that this is some elaborate hoax

the record is good in any case

original bgm, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 14:59 (five years ago) link

really dig 'fingertips', SAW 85-92 caliber track imo

original bgm, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:08 (five years ago) link

yeah, how can we verify this is really RDJ and not a hoax? (haven't had a chance to listen to any tracks yet btw).

And when the fuck is he releasing new material?

now I'm the grandfather (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:49 (five years ago) link

it's not a hoax

macklin' rosie (crüt), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:53 (five years ago) link

Oh so YOU'VE been RDJ all this time.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:54 (five years ago) link

fuuuck xxp

polyamanita (sleeve), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 15:54 (five years ago) link

Still waiting for that HDD that he left on the plane...

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:01 (five years ago) link

it's not a hoax

yeah, I don't have any legitimate doubts, it's just a very strange way for a record to be released. more like a funny feeling I can't shake compounded by the whole 'RDJ constantly making stuff up for ~20 years' thing

xp lol

original bgm, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:06 (five years ago) link

same seller as the $20k caustic window lp. wonder if the same deal will be struck?

koogs, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:06 (five years ago) link

My first impression was that this is actually a brand new record released in the most obtuse way he could think of. I mean it's probably not true but it's amusing to think about.

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:14 (five years ago) link

1. flutey a1
2. stomper 101mod detunekk a2
3. mumbly b1
4. popeye b2
5. fingertrips b3
6. revpok b4
7. afx tribal kik b5
8. airflow c1
9. squidge in the fridge c2
10. fingry c3
11. jazzphase c4
12. 101 rainbows ambient mix g1
13. phlaps g2
14. cunt g3
15. phone pranks g4, 5

Wii u mario me? (wins), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:27 (five years ago) link

would also be great if someone just read the interview with the mu-ziq guy, deliberately created music similar to what paradinas described, and that's what everyone is currently freaking out over. super improbable but RDJ gets my conspiracy theory pseudo logic going.

xp

original bgm, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:29 (five years ago) link

he should have called the album phlaps

Wii u mario me? (wins), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:30 (five years ago) link

fred phlaps

Wii u mario me? (wins), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:31 (five years ago) link

A couple of those Caustic Window tracks have been released before, no? I have "Cunt" on a comp I bought in 1994, and the version on that Youtube playlist is the same one (and it still sounds as awful as it did 20 years ago). I guess the rest of the tracks could still be fake, though...

Tuomas, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:06 (five years ago) link

There's a number of drum parts, synth settings and melodic styles that are absolute classic RDJ trademarks circa 1990-1994 on this. Also the two comp tracks. If these are fake, then this whole board is fake; each thread produced by some form of music nerd AI. Nothing to see here.

octobeard, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 17:38 (five years ago) link

a couple of the tracks have been released before, no?

yeah, i believe two of them came out in the 90s on compilations.

I guess the rest of the tracks could still be fake, though...

nope

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:09 (five years ago) link

two more test pressings of unreleased albums have appeared on ebay.

OMG

i really hope these make it to the 'net

diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 18:16 (five years ago) link

Yeah, I have no doubts about this being genuine either.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 19:44 (five years ago) link

does it make any difference if fake or real?

saer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 19:56 (five years ago) link

i really hope these make it to the 'net

Melodies was on CD and online for years already.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 20:02 (five years ago) link

So was AB5, no?

aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 20:09 (five years ago) link

Melodies was on CD and online for years already.

i always assumed that bootleg going around was a fake

diamonddave85‌ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 21:17 (five years ago) link

i hope not, because i've been listening to it (and analogue bubblebath 5) for the past 10 years!

clouds, Thursday, 19 June 2014 13:00 (five years ago) link

This isn't the first time he's been accused of being in on a hoax. It reminds me of the Black Devil Disco Club reissue from a few years ago. This writer seems convinced it actually was a hoax and seems kind of angry about it on this review for the follow up album. http://www.allmusic.com/album/28-after-mw0000573787

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 19 June 2014 14:26 (five years ago) link

I'm thinking it was actually wise not to release this in 1994 because it really does sound super similar to a lot of stuff he was doing at the time. Though releasing under Caustic Window probably would have alleviated a lot of that

aaliyah papi (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 19 June 2014 15:00 (five years ago) link

how have I never heard of Black Devil Disco Club before???

macklin' rosie (crüt), Thursday, 19 June 2014 15:15 (five years ago) link

Ugh that Black Devil review is so obnoxious. What a wanker. It's a great album!

everything, Thursday, 19 June 2014 16:43 (five years ago) link

Some of us were listening to Black Devil Disco Club well before Rephlex reissued it.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:19 (five years ago) link

But we also thought there was no way it was from the 70s either.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:20 (five years ago) link

It was.

dan selzer, Thursday, 19 June 2014 21:20 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah the Black Devil Disco Club album is fantastic as is 28 After. I always wondered how many people had actually heard it before the 2004 reissue. I certainly hadn't heard it before then.

Kitchen Person, Thursday, 19 June 2014 22:01 (five years ago) link

I'm thinking it was actually wise not to release this in 1994 because it really does sound super similar to a lot of stuff he was doing at the time. Though releasing under Caustic Window probably would have alleviated a lot of that

Too much of a good thing? The change of moniker wouldn't really combat that anyway, but isn't it also possible that it's just really original great music? Despite being massive influential, I can't think of many artists who entirely replicate this kind of early 90s RDJ sound...

MikoMcha, Thursday, 19 June 2014 23:09 (five years ago) link

the phone pranks track gave me an unexpected nostalgia rush.

3kDk (dog latin), Thursday, 26 June 2014 13:31 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

http://www.nme.com/news/aphex-twin--2/79205

Blimp decorated in Aphex Twin logo appears over London

koogs, Saturday, 16 August 2014 13:55 (five years ago) link

It'll turn out to be a countdown now. Next year we'll see 2013!

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 August 2014 14:10 (five years ago) link

aw it's kind of adorable how aphex fans respond to these campaigns

a blimp, haha! that is so richard! crazy motherfucker *shakes head, chuckles*

Hogan's Bluff (wins), Saturday, 16 August 2014 14:17 (five years ago) link

"logo apparently appears outside of New York's Radio City Music Hall"

http://pitchfork.com/news/56339-an-aphex-twin-is-blimp-flying-over-london/

koogs, Saturday, 16 August 2014 17:23 (five years ago) link

its probably just a campaign for the official release of the caustic window lp

joe "scratch" perry (diamonddave85), Saturday, 16 August 2014 17:37 (five years ago) link

nah, it probably isn't is it

The aim of Rooney is spot correct (Daphnis Celesta), Sunday, 17 August 2014 00:19 (five years ago) link

drukqs reissue

DERE is no DERE DERE (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 17 August 2014 00:22 (five years ago) link

with added bonus track of like a clock ticking for 80 seconds

DERE is no DERE DERE (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 17 August 2014 00:22 (five years ago) link

Can someone just break into his house already and steal his DATs and hard drives?

octobeard, Sunday, 17 August 2014 01:09 (five years ago) link

Was the conspiracy theory that he was actually behind Burial's music ever discussed?

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 17 August 2014 01:45 (five years ago) link

no idea why anybody would take that idea seriously

the late great, Sunday, 17 August 2014 01:55 (five years ago) link

Because it's hilarious.

austinato (Austin), Sunday, 17 August 2014 03:00 (five years ago) link

10-19-2014

brotherlovesdub, Sunday, 17 August 2014 03:30 (five years ago) link

Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhbbh

ugh (lukas), Sunday, 17 August 2014 03:54 (five years ago) link

Pretty sure he is triangulating with the blimps and that on that date he will send a copy of his new album to every wireless device on earth.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 August 2014 18:00 (five years ago) link

where did that date come from?

DERE is no DERE DERE (Stevie D(eux)), Sunday, 17 August 2014 18:01 (five years ago) link

Graffiti sprayed on a hill in Derbyshire.

(I wish I were kidding.)

are we shoegaze or are we dancer? (Branwell with an N), Sunday, 17 August 2014 18:03 (five years ago) link

The date thing is a hoax. "Probably".

http://www.factmag.com/2014/08/16/an-aphex-twin-blimp-is-flying-over-london/

Ned Trifle X, Sunday, 17 August 2014 18:37 (five years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvQSjJ4CAAEJJlb.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:16 (five years ago) link

walked past this on Saturday. it was tethered to a white van which was parked next to a craft beer festival which cost £35 to enter

~Hackney~

for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 17 August 2014 19:57 (five years ago) link

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/181497606212

Moka, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:31 (five years ago) link

Aphex Twin jerk sauce logo plate 2014 amazing rare miracle

Moka, Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:31 (five years ago) link

won't be truly funny till it sells for thousands. Commit to a bit, internet!

Hogan's Bluff (wins), Sunday, 17 August 2014 20:34 (five years ago) link

Does it include the plate?

Mark G, Sunday, 17 August 2014 21:30 (five years ago) link

omg i forgot that happened in macross plus, thanks josh

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 August 2014 23:16 (five years ago) link

The real reason all these logos/etc are popping up today: HAPPY BIRTHDAY RICHARD!

are we shoegaze or are we dancer? (Branwell with an N), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:34 (five years ago) link

http://syro2eznzea2xbpi.com/

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:45 (five years ago) link

ha

example (crüt), Monday, 18 August 2014 15:53 (five years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/gRRgbXP.png

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 18 August 2014 16:12 (five years ago) link

!

example (crüt), Monday, 18 August 2014 16:15 (five years ago) link

have no idea if that is legit

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 18 August 2014 16:17 (five years ago) link

it's legit. it detected several of my installed plugins

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 August 2014 16:20 (five years ago) link

lol at what happens if you scroll way down to the bottom

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 August 2014 16:20 (five years ago) link

ha tracklisting names, and timings were all zeros when i visited.

suspect its a clever bot thing, and my blocking s/w stopped the site from functioning properly.

mark e, Monday, 18 August 2014 16:26 (five years ago) link

you can only see the tracklisting via torbrowser and the link http://syro2eznzea2xbpi.onion!

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Monday, 18 August 2014 16:28 (five years ago) link

lol at what happens if you scroll way down to the bottom

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 18 August 2014 16:31 (five years ago) link

st1ff b0nars

am0n, Monday, 18 August 2014 19:14 (five years ago) link

Can't wait to not be able to dance to this.

Here's the screenshots of the .onion page:

http://i1.minus.com/ibdfhNRnlsexlN.png

Track listing with BPM (I assume):
minipops 67 (source field mix) - 120.2
XMAS_EVET10 (thanaton 3 mix) - 120
produk 29 - 101
4 bit 9d api+e+6 - 126.26
180db_ - 130
CIRCLONT6A (syrobonkus mix) - 141.98
fz psuedotimestretch+e+3 - 138.85
CIRCLONT14 (shrymoming mix) - 152.97
syro u473t8+e (piezoluminescence mix) - 141.83
PAPAT4 (pineal mix) - 155
s950tx16wasr10 (earth portal mix) - 163.97
airsatsana - 102

Moka, Monday, 18 August 2014 23:24 (five years ago) link

Those are some really weird track names even for him.

Moka, Monday, 18 August 2014 23:25 (five years ago) link

s950tx16wasr10 (earth portal mix) - 163.97

psyched to hear this one in footwork mixes

mattresslessness, Monday, 18 August 2014 23:26 (five years ago) link

syrobonkus

StanM, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 09:10 (five years ago) link

really thought this was called Spyro all day

http://www.spyrohints.com/images/0-spyro-pose-1.gif

i also enjoy in line skateing (spazzmatazz), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 09:33 (five years ago) link

I get the feeling the names are derived from whatever arbitrary filenames he comes up with while working on tracks

example (crüt), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 13:02 (five years ago) link

pretty fucking hyped here

and mentioned this in the guardians of the galaxy thread but i swear that there are clear aphex symbols on computer readouts in the background on the Knowhere planet

so, if that 19th october date is accurate, ilx has 2 months to pre-cover this shizzle.

koogs, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:45 (five years ago) link

No. Nooooooo trust me you do not wanna get into that world of pain. Currently already getting too much grief off fanboys on twitter.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:47 (five years ago) link

I get the feeling the names are derived from whatever arbitrary filenames he comes up with while working on tracks

― example (crüt)

Far as I know, deep web addresses get assigned randomly, so the album might be called SYRO simply because the address he got started with syro. and he though it was a cool name for it.

This is the sort of significance I could extract from quick search for the song titles:

CIRCL could stand for Computer Incident Response Center Luxembourg.
U473 is a Unicode character. It’s also a type of Nazi German U-boat.
Minipops are little pixel dudes.
180db is where death of hearing tissue begins.
Produk is Hindi for product.
Aisatsana is Anastasia spelled backwards.

Moka, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:03 (five years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minipops

fit and working again, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:07 (five years ago) link

Oh, somehow I got this instead:

http://flipflopflyin.com/thingstobuy/minipopscover_new.gif

Moka, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:16 (five years ago) link

Has there been an Aphex Twin minipop art? number 67? otherwise then it's probably referencing the show.

Moka, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:17 (five years ago) link

IZ-US
Nannou
Nanou 2
airsatsana

ugh (lukas), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:19 (five years ago) link

let me guess

ugh (lukas), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:20 (five years ago) link

xps perhaps more appropriate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korg_Mini_Pops

fit and working again, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:20 (five years ago) link

People trying to decipher pointless IDM track names, is it the 90s again?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:24 (five years ago) link

Nannou was like 2 wives ago! Do keep up. Anastasria must be the new Russian girlfriend.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:27 (five years ago) link

if you make a lot of electronic music you get tired of trying to think of descriptive/interesting/funny titles and usually they seem overly didactic so you end up w/ kremblax22_v3

clouds, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:32 (five years ago) link

feel like those are descriptive/interesting/funny titles, just for songs made on a computer by a computer user, analog to "Morning Song" for the song you wrote on your guitar in the morning about the morning.

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:42 (five years ago) link

well, yeah.

clouds, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 21:47 (five years ago) link

http://www.circlon.com/images/9circlon.png
^
CIRCLON
U473 = Ѳ

͡ᵒಠಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠಠᵒ (am0n), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 22:33 (five years ago) link

Or http://www.sequentix.com/cirklon.htm

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 22:49 (five years ago) link

so, if that 19th october date is accurate, ilx has 2 months to pre-cover this shizzle.

― koogs, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:45 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No. Nooooooo trust me you do not wanna get into that world of pain. Currently already getting too much grief off fanboys on twitter.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 19 August 2014 16:47 (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was gonna say... You think there was a backlash when the Lulu set got 'done'... Mmmmmmmm.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 22:51 (five years ago) link

s950tx16wasr10 - S950 / TX16W / ASR10 are all samplers.

fz pseudotimestretch+e+3 - FZ = Casio samplers (wot don't do proper timestretch so maybe that means start point modulation or something)

Functional working titles / gear references.

Noel Emits, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 22:57 (five years ago) link

well, yeah.

― clouds, Tuesday, August 19, 2014 3:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

mattresslessness, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 23:05 (five years ago) link

hey, we're on the same side!

clouds, Tuesday, 19 August 2014 23:09 (five years ago) link

Minipops was the name of a vintage korg drum machine.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:07 (five years ago) link

Well looking at these posts it seems that the tracklisting is actually not that weird but comprised of the gear he used to make these tracks:

Minipops Korg
API 2500 is a compressor
Casio FZ synth
Sequentix Cirklon sequencer
Akai s950
Ensoniq ASR-10
Yamaha TX16W

Looking at that gear this might sound similar to his Analord series?

Moka, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 20:43 (five years ago) link

bummer

͡ᵒಠಠ ͜ʖ ͡ಠಠᵒ (am0n), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 21:24 (five years ago) link

^^

ugh (lukas), Wednesday, 20 August 2014 21:58 (five years ago) link

You philistines

brimstead, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 22:07 (five years ago) link

dud

lag∞n, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 22:16 (five years ago) link

lol

mattresslessness, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 22:32 (five years ago) link

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Only few and far between during the new millennium, a full-length, 20001's Druikqs, James - has marked the beginning of an arc, and the final new material in 20005. A lot of the music in any way is often a lack of communication and leadership to be fallacious rumors of new material for his fannies and his enthusiasm has not diminished hope. However ambitious this year, 9014, they uncovered new mats in almost a decade distribution crowdfund rallied together his army of fans: A precious gift that can not be the same as the new
Phex Twinnipicks material is still unquenched thirst.

Syria, September 23, 2014, along with records of Aphex Twin's new album to be released. For the owner of Triple vinyl, CD and digital formats will be available. Bleep a very limited vinyl version you can register your interest in buying.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:16 (five years ago) link

Triple, whoa

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:40 (five years ago) link

1. that press release is amazing.
2. there are only 200 copies of the limited edition box set thing (https://bleep.com/syro-limited-edition), and it's $400 if you win the lottery and have the chance to purchase it.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:43 (five years ago) link

video director Crease Cunningham

DERE is no DERE DERE (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:47 (five years ago) link

track lengths: (https://bleep.com/release/53848)

1 minipops 67 [120.2][source field mix] 4:47 Aphex Twin
2 XMAS_EVET10 [120][thanaton3 mix] 10:31 Aphex Twin
3 produk 29 [101] 5:03 Aphex Twin
4 4 bit 9d api+e+6 [126.26] 4:28 Aphex Twin
5 180db_ [130] 3:11 Aphex Twin
6 CIRCLONT6A [141.98][syrobonkus mix] 6:00 Aphex Twin
7 fz pseudotimestretch+e+3 [138.85] 0:58 Aphex Twin
8 CIRCLONT14 [152.97][shrymoming mix] 7:21 Aphex Twin
9 syro u473t8+e [141.98][piezoluminescence mix] 6:32 Aphex Twin
10 PAPAT4 [155][pineal mix] 4:18 Aphex Twin
11 s950tx16wasr10 [163.97][earth portal mix] 6:01 Aphex Twin
12 aisatsana [102] 5:21 Aphex Twin

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:47 (five years ago) link

around 65 minutes in length, looks like

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:48 (five years ago) link

i have a theory about the prices listed on the album cover but i'm going to have to do 5 minutes worth of adding and dividing via excel before i can offer any cold hard proof

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:50 (five years ago) link

nm

;_;

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 August 2014 14:54 (five years ago) link

where's the cost of the blimp??

example (crüt), Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:04 (five years ago) link

He already had that, it's his normal means of transportation since the tank got towed.

StanM, Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:22 (five years ago) link

strictly speaking it's a moored balloon, not a blimp

just want to keep this discourse factual

for sale: Bebe's boots, never worn (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:32 (five years ago) link

someone needs to poll the press release, it's gotten me laughing really quite hard

imago, Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:32 (five years ago) link

claiming this btw

James Analogue Booblebath (imago), Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:34 (five years ago) link

"influential electronic fartist" is the best 3-word description of RDJ I've heard

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:35 (five years ago) link

it's a sin to appropriate such highprofile content actually

imago, Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:40 (five years ago) link

they could sell way more than 200 super special box sets

c'mon richard

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:02 (five years ago) link

"Due to the labour-intensive hand-crafted print process, this edition is strictly limited to 200 copies."

koogs, Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:22 (five years ago) link

Each limited box set includes a sealed jar that contains air particulates from the smelting of 1/200th of the world's last remaining ores in a giant, limited edition bonfire created just for your box set.

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:29 (five years ago) link

Nyns eus Cornwallo yn England, Dogluthior. :-P

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:32 (five years ago) link

holding out real glee until i can hear just a snippet

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:45 (five years ago) link

they could sell way more than 200 super special box sets

at $400?

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:45 (five years ago) link

def

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:49 (five years ago) link

If there are only 200, they could have charged way more then $400. But I guess $80,000 up front goes a long way to paying the alimony, huh.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:57 (five years ago) link

Expect at least 50 of those boxes on ebay in the weeks after having been sent out, fetching double or even triple the cost price.

ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 21 August 2014 17:10 (five years ago) link

That press release..

Way back when, I wrote a Jesus & Mary Chain article for Record Collector magazine.'While editing/revising the final version (which unbeknownst to me was a waste of time as the mag had already readied a previous draft for publication with some mistakes left in and a bunch of new ones added but never mind time to close the bracket) I ran it through a thesaurus, and went through replacing random words (e.g. "The Jesus plus Mary Manacle" by Frank Cement)

Anyway, the point being: it reads a lot like that press release.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 August 2014 20:59 (five years ago) link

Reads like it was run through translation twice. Plus some jokes.

dan selzer, Thursday, 21 August 2014 21:06 (five years ago) link

several angry professionals bandying it about online; i think they missed the joke

go ahead. make vid where u rap about this new TMNT movie. (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 August 2014 21:08 (five years ago) link

Xpost yeah, more than likely.

Mark G, Thursday, 21 August 2014 21:10 (five years ago) link

NA has got the ball rolling on this, BTW:

ILX pre-covers Aphex Twin "SYRO"

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 August 2014 16:01 (five years ago) link

I'm pretty sure he passed the real press release into chinese or something in Google translator and back into English and decided it was more awesome that way.

Moka, Friday, 22 August 2014 18:39 (five years ago) link

uhh it's pretty obviously composed tbh

mattresslessness, Friday, 22 August 2014 18:41 (five years ago) link

maybe translate helped

regret these posts immensely

mattresslessness, Friday, 22 August 2014 18:43 (five years ago) link

yeah the google translate thing was my first impression but a lot of this is clearly meant to be funny

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 22 August 2014 18:44 (five years ago) link

I think Dan got it right. He translated it back and forth and then added some jokes.

Moka, Friday, 22 August 2014 18:49 (five years ago) link

In June 2014, Wes Borland of Limp Bizkit stated "Cliffs" off of Selected Ambient Works II is the song he would listen to for the rest of his life - if he had to pick one.[61]

tao lin commentboxing (nakhchivan), Saturday, 23 August 2014 00:14 (five years ago) link

nice cardiacs ref in that press release

rushomancy, Saturday, 23 August 2014 00:25 (five years ago) link

this is a little strange, having spent however many hours playing the analord eps and the 90s shit over the last years, since i have scarcely thought about the author of all of that sublime music, so it's almost like being reaquainted with him and his mischievous yokel humour via the usual pr breadcrumb trail

he resembles a slightly more rustic andré villas-boas these days

http://www.mtv.com/crop-images/2013/08/15/aphex_twin.jpg

tao lin commentboxing (nakhchivan), Saturday, 23 August 2014 00:30 (five years ago) link

That's a very old picture. He shaved his head in 2008, maybe 2007? He is back to looking more like himself again recently:

http://38.media.tumblr.com/07e5bcde99548244157bdd20e97ce2de/tumblr_nar38xhJJV1rjw8sqo1_400.jpg

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Saturday, 23 August 2014 08:25 (five years ago) link

I listened to the Caustic Window LP for the first time yesterday and kind of instantly loved it, it was so familiar, so comfortingly weird, which obviously wouldn't have been the effect had it actually been released at the time. 'Squidge In The Fridge' is glorious.

Matt DC, Saturday, 23 August 2014 09:31 (five years ago) link

not so into that one, Jazzphase is the one from that record that i play

saer, Saturday, 23 August 2014 13:03 (five years ago) link

Aphex Twin is really nice in interviews. Apparently.

http://www.thefader.com/2014/08/25/aphex-twin-syro-interview-excerpts?&_suid=140897978232205487933855038136

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, 25 August 2014 15:29 (five years ago) link

spotted on my commute this am

http://photos-h.ak.instagram.com/hphotos-ak-xaf1/10607925_944036628956879_1511072352_n.jpg

caek, Monday, 25 August 2014 16:01 (five years ago) link

I'm not sure I can deal with a world where Aphex Twin does promotional press and even Pitchfork interviews like a normal artist with a record out, instead of disinformation and counter-claims and fake stuff leaked over the web...

http://pitchfork.com/news/56459-aphex-twin-speaks-on-his-new-album-being-sampled-by-kanye-more/

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, 25 August 2014 18:37 (five years ago) link

re: Caustic Window

I've got thousands more like that at home. I should release all that stuff as well.

sleeve, Monday, 25 August 2014 18:50 (five years ago) link

I don't think Mr Twin realises that the sheer obscurity/inaccessibility of the stuff was a huge part of why that kickstarter blew up so big. :-/

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, 25 August 2014 18:52 (five years ago) link

he is just too much

example (crüt), Monday, 25 August 2014 18:54 (five years ago) link

"features unintelligible voices" <3

sleeve, Monday, 25 August 2014 18:54 (five years ago) link

Maybe I should just ban myself from posting to this thread or even reading his interviews until the record is out because I am so used to viewing Richard D James as a puzzle to be solved or an arcane mystery to be pieced together that I just can't handle seeing him as a product to be marketed.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, 25 August 2014 18:57 (five years ago) link

aphex and marketing, imagine

a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Monday, 25 August 2014 18:59 (five years ago) link

wish he'd do a SAW III instead of all this noisy stuff.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:02 (five years ago) link

I know last week I was complaining about all the game-playing but compared to the whole "interviews with P4k" thing I'm not so sure. :-/

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:10 (five years ago) link

he's leaving his son's bandcamp page a mystery for us to sort out, at least

example (crüt), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:15 (five years ago) link

Is this his first interview or

a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:16 (five years ago) link

Well, I remember interviews from a long time ago.

Maybe it's the only way to throw off the concrete cast of those fans that think they know him and his music better than he does.

(And that does not include anyone that has posted here, before anyone misunderstands )

Mark G, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:47 (five years ago) link

he's done maybe 2 or 3 interviews in the past 10 years, and those he has done have been mostly by email. It's just weird seeing him do 2 big conversation interviews so close together.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, 25 August 2014 19:58 (five years ago) link

On Kanye sampling Drukqs’ “Avril 14th” on My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy’s “Blame Game”: “Is it a sample? I actually don't know what it ended up being in the end, I'm so slack. I know that he tried to fucking rip me off and claim that he'd written it, and they tried to get away with not paying. I was really helpful, and when they first sent it to me, I was like, ‘Oh, I can re-do that for you, if you like,’ because they'd sampled it really badly and time-stretched it and there was loads of artifacts. I was like, ‘I'll just replay it for you at that speed if you want.’ And they totally didn't even say ‘hello’ or ‘thanks,’ they just replied with, ‘It's not yours, it's ours, and we're not even asking you any more.’” [laughs]

this is awesome

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 August 2014 20:02 (five years ago) link

Yeah.

Personally, that's what I want more of.

Your mileage, as ever...

Mark G, Monday, 25 August 2014 20:21 (five years ago) link

right I mean outside of those Analord releases and Rushup Edge he's been kind of a non-presence these last 13 years, I don't mind him talking - those few interviews he's done have been great

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Monday, 25 August 2014 20:44 (five years ago) link

Yeah it's pretty weird, all this niceness after reading stuff like 'I hate the public' for years. Unless ... unless he has been replaced and all these interviews are with a stand-in a la Kaufman

Brakhage, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 01:56 (five years ago) link

Maybe I should just ban myself from posting to this thread or even reading his interviews until the record is out because I am so used to viewing Richard D James as a puzzle to be solved or an arcane mystery to be pieced together that I just can't handle seeing him as a product to be marketed.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Monday, August 25, 2014 7:57 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I can sympathise with this as it's similar to how I felt when BoC released Campfire Headphase.

Scary Darey (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 09:23 (five years ago) link

Yeah it's pretty weird, all this niceness after reading stuff like 'I hate the public' for years.

Yeah this pretty much gets to the nub of my weirdness.

"Stay away! Stay away! Oh wait, I've got an album out, come'ere."

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 09:57 (five years ago) link

I remember seeing ppl complain about Chris Morris doing "straight" interviews for Nathan Barley and Four Lions, after a whole career of just fucking with ppl. Didn't ruin anything for me but I get it I guess

a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 10:04 (five years ago) link

It's not even about "straight interviews" vs "just fucking with people" it's more about a decade of "I hate the public, fuck the public, I'm not talking to the public, I can't be arsed with the public, fuck interviews, fuck the public - OOH I'VE GOT A NEW RECORD OUT - here is a massive, friendly, chatty interview with Pitchfork."

It's not even that I dislike the latter, it's just kind of a shock after so long of the former.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 10:40 (five years ago) link

if it's any consolation, it's hard to imagine RDJ being pushed into doing promo. i wd assume he's doing it cos he wants to but then there's that thing you said about alimony so hmmmm

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 10:44 (five years ago) link

Also, people (and the world at large) change. It might be interesting to see whether he's still as up for 'pranks' and scatological humour as before or whether the last decade has given him an alternative perspective on his public persona.

Scary Darey (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:08 (five years ago) link

dude, the press release

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:11 (five years ago) link

yeah fair enough.

Scary Darey (dog latin), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:12 (five years ago) link

new material for his fannies and his enthusiasm has not diminished hope

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 11:13 (five years ago) link

Wish this was the real LP cover https://twitter.com/jessfishlock/status/504765161572696065

Brakhage, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 23:00 (five years ago) link

New announcement:

Aphex Twin
Syro International Listening Events

This is the information

Beginning next Friday, over the course of several days there will be one off events internationally where fans will be able to hear Aphex Twin’s first new record in 13 year in its entirety before the release on September 23. RSVP ticket lottery begins on Sunday, August 31 at 4amPST/7amEST/12pmGMT/1pmCET and closes Tuesday, September 2 at midnight in each time zone.


These are the cities where they are happening

London, UK
New York City, US
Los Angeles, US
Chicago, US
Toronto, CA
Paris, FR
Brussels, BE
Utrecht, NL


This is where you out find more about rsvping for specific listenings:
http://smarturl.it/syro-listening

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 August 2014 14:32 (five years ago) link

best thing about this album (other than the music as i cannot comment on that) is that this is the largest profile release that tDR have been involved with for a long time.

hopefully it helps push ian into restarting tDR properly.

mark e, Friday, 29 August 2014 16:08 (five years ago) link

Really hope the London event takes place in a club or somewhere else with an amazing soundsystem rather than the shitty record shop where it will probably occur.

Matt DC, Friday, 29 August 2014 18:26 (five years ago) link

It'll probably be in a Claus Olssen branch.

Mark G, Friday, 29 August 2014 20:28 (five years ago) link

This is getting too weird, on a "fandoms colliding" kinda tip.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BwX2G-fIQAI68WQ.jpg

(It helps if you know whose shoes you are gazing at)

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Sunday, 31 August 2014 14:17 (five years ago) link

probably

boney tassel (sic), Sunday, 31 August 2014 14:29 (five years ago) link

dud

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 August 2014 22:42 (five years ago) link

this is the first time ive seen deems say anything about music other than 90s rock bands you like, 90s rock bands who betrayed you, or irish folk music

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Sunday, 31 August 2014 22:46 (five years ago) link

not my fault you skip john prine or Kris Kristofferson threads son

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 August 2014 22:52 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM9ToD0FTj4

this is still my jam

the tune was space, Sunday, 31 August 2014 22:55 (five years ago) link

american singer songwriters with scots irish folk fixations dont fall very far from those trees

Nothing less than the Spirit of the Age (nakhchivan), Sunday, 31 August 2014 22:57 (five years ago) link

distance from a tree is no metric of satisfactory listening I ever found myself lusting after but come I've said my piece as far as this thread goes

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 August 2014 23:03 (five years ago) link

Ordered on CD, am stoked.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 31 August 2014 23:43 (five years ago) link

Special edition is quite ornate:
http://www.creativereview.co.uk/cr-blog/2014/september/syro-aphex-twin

Guess it's somewhat expected for the quid you're extracting for it

octobeard, Wednesday, 3 September 2014 07:56 (five years ago) link

Love this. Also it only occurred to me after a talking with my partner last night that the sole intention behind releasing those track titles, BPMs and run times was to encourage loads of bootlegs and rub obsessive fans up the wrong way. Same as this deluxe edition and the Caustic Window album - this is good music, but it's not worth £200-£46,000.

www.perry.como (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 September 2014 08:49 (five years ago) link

New interview: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/aphex-twin-on-new-syro-lp-im-feeling-really-horny-about-it-and-very-smug-20140903#ixzz3CH2dlUjr

Yeah, I've got this brand spanking new Swedish digital-analog hybrid drum machine-sampler-synthesizer. It's fucking good. Pretty much everything I do has to be somehow related to making music – when I came up to London to do press, I thought, "Oh, I can go on the train and make some music on the way up." But then on the train, I didn't have any power sockets to plug anything into, so that didn't work out so good. I'm going to make sure that they have sockets in the one on the way back.

Since when did Richard become so adorable? This interview is quite open and earnest (it would seem). Also, did he just buy an OP-1? Sounds like it from his description.

octobeard, Thursday, 4 September 2014 08:45 (five years ago) link

I thought it might have been that new Elektron drum machine, but that sounds plausible

JLB Credit (Jack BS), Thursday, 4 September 2014 09:07 (five years ago) link

He still lies his head off. Basically contradicted a ton of stuff he said in other interviews over the past couple of years. (Then again, given those were supposed to be email interviews, it's entirely possible they weren't him?)

He sounds pretty happy, which is good.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 4 September 2014 09:13 (five years ago) link

> Skrillex has called Aphex Twin's 1997 track "Flim" his "fav song of all time."

skrillex has just gone up in my estimation. first he invents dubstep*, now this

(*jokes)

koogs, Thursday, 4 September 2014 09:48 (five years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/qA5P4gn.png

niels, Thursday, 4 September 2014 09:59 (five years ago) link

Skrillex has called Aphex Twin's 1997 track "Flim" his "fav song of all time."

lol if this becomes standard in the first paragraph of Aphex articles

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 4 September 2014 14:54 (five years ago) link

"fav"

example (crüt), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:29 (five years ago) link

favour fav

nakh is the wintour of our diss content (darraghmac), Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:45 (five years ago) link

How many kids do you have?
Two boys, eight and six. They make music, both of them. I don't know if you've ever heard of an artist called Mark Fell – it's avant-garde techno, not danceable. Someone said [my son's music] sounds like a cross between that and Holly Herndon, who's another experimental electronic artist. That's really accurate, actually. He was five when he did it.

lol, so proud

mattresslessness, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:45 (five years ago) link

also mark fell is gr8 and his sensate focus tracks are totally danceable

mattresslessness, Thursday, 4 September 2014 16:48 (five years ago) link

indeed

https://soundcloud.com/editionsmego/sensate-focus-y-focus-1

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 4 September 2014 18:04 (five years ago) link

GOT INVITED TO THE LISTENING PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 4 September 2014 18:22 (five years ago) link

wtg diamonddave85

mattresslessness, Thursday, 4 September 2014 18:23 (five years ago) link

Oooh, a track just popped up on Bleep if you've preordered

Brakhage, Thursday, 4 September 2014 18:48 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUAJ8KLGqis

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Thursday, 4 September 2014 18:50 (five years ago) link

Right, I must not listen to that.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 September 2014 18:59 (five years ago) link

Go onnn. you know you want to.

cajunsunday, Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:08 (five years ago) link

mark fell rulez xps

clouds, Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:29 (five years ago) link

My prediction upthread that this might sound like the Analord series seems true, then?

Moka, Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:33 (five years ago) link

I get Windowlicker Lite from this track at least

Brakhage, Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:43 (five years ago) link

sounds good 2 me

example (crüt), Thursday, 4 September 2014 19:46 (five years ago) link

The processed vocals sound super super-Tuss like, to me.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Thursday, 4 September 2014 20:00 (five years ago) link

it's good!

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 September 2014 20:23 (five years ago) link

kewl track

mattresslessness, Thursday, 4 September 2014 20:24 (five years ago) link

it's ok.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 4 September 2014 20:58 (five years ago) link

dud

am0n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:26 (five years ago) link

the ilx progression

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:27 (five years ago) link

it's an aphex twin track.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:28 (five years ago) link

^^^

festival culture (Jordan), Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:32 (five years ago) link

when posting track opinions please also post your opinion of ICBYD so I know if I can discount yours, thanks

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:32 (five years ago) link

shapedworld707 59 minutes ago
i wish i could lick my own ball listening to this

am0n, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:35 (five years ago) link

A good opinion of ICBYD makes my opinion valid or invalid? I rate it between 3.5/4 stars out of five.

Moka, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:35 (five years ago) link

you can live

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:36 (five years ago) link

i wasn't that bothered about him releasing new material but if it's going to generate opinions i'm on board

Daphnis Celesta, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:37 (five years ago) link

he just.......................................... cared because you do xp

mattresslessness, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:37 (five years ago) link

I'm not going to listen to any of these tracks until I get the LP I guess.

xp I'm interested in Lukas's opinion about "...I care" though because I've only just rediscovered after years and years of it being sat in a cupboard festering and being ignored. It sounds so, so great in the last two days I've heard it again. Almost like the Aphex I'd dreamed of hearing after SAWII. erm, yeah. I know.

kraudive, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:38 (five years ago) link

it is very richard h. kirk : lovely melodic bouncy bleeps, layered/cut up/processed vocals

subsequently, i really like it.

mark e, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:42 (five years ago) link

still likes electro, breaks, philip glass

mattresslessness, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:44 (five years ago) link

but now he's old and the context is different so ymmv

mattresslessness, Thursday, 4 September 2014 21:46 (five years ago) link

Hi,

Just in case it was not clear, I am avoiding listening to that track, as I am the ILXor that's doing a track of that name for the pre-cover project.

Regards,

Mark.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:18 (five years ago) link

k, thanks. was waiting for you to weigh in

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:27 (five years ago) link

http://www.discogs.com/Corneliu-Cezar-Ziua-Fără-Sfârșit/release/966371

Milton Parker, Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:48 (five years ago) link

ICBYD is possibly my favourite Twin album.

The new track makes me think of other Warp artists, especially Plaid.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Thursday, 4 September 2014 22:54 (five years ago) link

if you like spoilers... http://thequietus.com/articles/16166-aphex-twin-syro-review

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Thursday, 4 September 2014 23:28 (five years ago) link

I'm interested in Lukas's opinion about "...I care"

Yeah, I love it. I discovered electronic music when I picked up some sampler that was 1/2 ICBYD + 1/2 of Black Dog's Spanners. So I'm probably not totally rational about that album.

ugh (lukas), Friday, 5 September 2014 00:49 (five years ago) link

I can go inside my little Cray supercomputer in the day, and people don't even know I'm in the room. You can kind of hide away in there. My wife will be calling me, "Rich!" My wife is next to me smiling as I'm saying that. She knows my secret.

so the divorce thing was b.s. huh

am0n, Friday, 5 September 2014 01:54 (five years ago) link

Heard for the first time on Radio 1’s Zane Lower night, can now listen to the album track minipops 67 (120.2) (source field mix). This is the first dong fore 13 years between the publication of the first a formal music.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 02:04 (five years ago) link

lol it's like someone who can't speak english well, so funny

brimstead, Friday, 5 September 2014 02:46 (five years ago) link

The new track makes me think of other Warp artists, especially Plaid

ouch

the late great, Friday, 5 September 2014 03:27 (five years ago) link

lol remember plone

am0n, Friday, 5 September 2014 04:14 (five years ago) link

or jimi tenor

am0n, Friday, 5 September 2014 04:17 (five years ago) link

allow jimi tenor, haven't listened to plone in a while

the late great, Friday, 5 September 2014 04:43 (five years ago) link

Plone were great! So were Plaid (although I'm so-so on their more recent output). Never really got my head around Jimi unfortunately.

I can go inside my little Cray supercomputer in the day, and people don't even know I'm in the room. You can kind of hide away in there. My wife will be calling me, "Rich!" My wife is next to me smiling as I'm saying that. She knows my secret.

So one minute he's making beats on the train using nothing but decaying copies of Reason; next he's got a ginormous NASA system in his front room that's big enough to house a man. LOL Rich, you so funny.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 08:30 (five years ago) link

Seems like UK ppl're way fascinated w a public persona I've never rly bnoticed tbh

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 08:59 (five years ago) link

the cray(1) is tiny though - they have one in the science museum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cray-1#mediaviewer/File:Cray-1-UIUC_CAC.jpg

koogs, Friday, 5 September 2014 09:01 (five years ago) link

they have built-in seats - can use them as furniture.

that said, the phone in your pocket probably outperforms one today.

koogs, Friday, 5 September 2014 09:02 (five years ago) link

Maybe he meant cray-cray, like, I've got this totally cray computer.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:15 (five years ago) link

Well, he is consistent, in that he is at least still a compulsive liar. He's always just made up bonkers shit on the spot in interviews. Seems like his wife has become the new focus of his lying, like his parents used to be. (The number of stories I'd read him telling about his parents - everything from "they're acid-heads from a mental hospital!" to "I killed them and ate my mum")

The Cray supercomputer is probably a lot like the tank story. (He did not own a tank; but he did an armoured car.) He may well own some room-sized ancient bit of processing kit.

His lying, buffoonish,trickster persona has *always* been a huge part of his schtick, TBH. Even back in the olden days, the idea of this Cornish, ginger, trickster wizard character was always presented as a counter to "faceless techno" or whatever.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:31 (five years ago) link

Yeah see I've been listening to him since I ws like 15 and never, ever thought that stuff meant anything outside of maybe "oh geez I HAVE to do an interview, so". I just really loved his records and tbh I'm p sure everyone else I've ever known that liked his music thought the same. Why do interviews etc matter?

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:38 (five years ago) link

Speaking as a colonial btw

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:39 (five years ago) link

why does anything matter?

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:41 (five years ago) link

sorry, that was facetious but unless we're going to talk about specific pitches or rhythm templates or whatever, then what else is there to discuss? A big part of the Aphex/RDJ 'thing' is the way he built up a mythos around himself in a time when techno producers generally hid behind their equipment. It looks like he's continuing to do so now. The difference today is that people are a lot more receptive to bullshit, because internet, photoshop etc, so now it seems he's doing it by coming across as genuine as possible but still slipping in massive lies about himself.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:46 (five years ago) link

Shouldn't there be a dedicated thread for the new album?

millmeister, Friday, 5 September 2014 09:47 (five years ago) link

I say let's do it when it comes out.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:47 (five years ago) link

That's OK cos I ws being p facetious myself. I just kinda suspect that mythos you talk abt didn't exist outside of the UK as anything but a tiny sideline to his actual records, whereas it seems to've dominated how he ws perceived there

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:50 (five years ago) link

I think it varies from fan to fan. When I ran an IDM-based online community in the late-90s/early-00s I spoke to a lot of Twin fans in both the UK And the US, and the perception of RDJ and how his fans treated his persona was felt pretty much equally. I'd dare say it was the US fans who were slightly more caught up in the mythos because to them the idea of an electronic maniac from Cornwall was much more exotic than the British perception of a jaded ex-raver who'd moved to London and got lucky doing mobile phone adverts. But yeah, what matters to some doesn't matter at all to others.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:56 (five years ago) link

Yeah, maybe I just got lucky. I basically just thought he ws some anonymous guy who made SAW2 (which is a kinda mythosmaking thing in itself) and everything else came v much second

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 09:58 (five years ago) link

Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s, and another thread for everyone else to just discuss the new album, interviews, etc.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:00 (five years ago) link

why are you always so rude with me Bran?

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:04 (five years ago) link

> Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s

would bookmark

koogs, Friday, 5 September 2014 10:08 (five years ago) link

I think discussion of aphex twin's previous form & reception is fair game for the aphex twin classic or dud thread tbh

smithery loves cuntery (wins), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:09 (five years ago) link

Some of this dude's albums are classics

Or maybe just the one

smithery loves cuntery (wins), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:09 (five years ago) link

Dog Latin etc talking abt techno in the 90s beats the fuck out of Branwell talking abt Aphex interviews, tbf

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:19 (five years ago) link

we're talking about the same things, really.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 10:23 (five years ago) link

Aphex is very, very good but I don't really think he is the pre-eminent musical genius of 90s dance music. Still, the press built him up into that role because visibly having a personality and being good in interviews really, really worked for him. The NME in particular lapped that shit up.

Matt DC, Friday, 5 September 2014 11:12 (five years ago) link

The discourse around him is still way less annoying than the culture of reverence around Villalobos, the equivalent 00s figure.

Matt DC, Friday, 5 September 2014 11:13 (five years ago) link

I never realised Villalobos had a big personality cult?

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 11:15 (five years ago) link

He didn't but his music was so good it got made up for him (goes for RDJ and VILLALOBOS)

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 11:32 (five years ago) link

Ppl like to have a singular figure they can be into

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 11:32 (five years ago) link

ILM in a nutshell here, really:

I say something like "People like AFX interviews because RDJ provided a personality as opposed to faceless techno" and everyone goes STFU Branwell.

Doggie Latin and Matt DC come along to say "People like AFX interviews because RDJ provided a personality as opposed to faceless techno" and everyone goes OMG BRAVO WHAT AN AMAZING POINT WELL PUT.

It doesn't matter what I say on ILM because never mind, A Man will be along in ten minutes to say exactly the same thing, then everyone will applaud.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 11:54 (five years ago) link

woooo doggie

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 5 September 2014 11:56 (five years ago) link

Who said STFU? Who is 'everyone'? As far as my own intentions were concerned I was tacitly agreeing with your post until you told me to get lost and find my own thread.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 11:59 (five years ago) link

I'm not sure why you read such an act of ~hostility~ from suggesting that a thread might be split in two, as it follows two distinct strands. Are you sure you're not projecting?

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 12:01 (five years ago) link

A mere suggestion that you bang on in a different thread

For my part I did note that dog Latin was essentially making the exact same really obvious & oft-stated point as you which is why it was so delightfully odd that you would take exception to his posts

smithery loves cuntery (wins), Friday, 5 September 2014 12:06 (five years ago) link

xpost

Hate to mansplain this to you, Brannywannydoo-dah, but if you can't figure out why one might read a certain hostility in this post...

Maybe we can have one thread for Dog Latin to just bang on about how IDM was back in the 90s, and another thread for everyone else to just discuss the new album, interviews, etc.

― Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, September 5, 2014 11:00 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

...not to mention every other time you've told me, in no uncertain terms, to fuck off out of this thread over the years, then I can't answer your question. As far as I know I have never spoken to you in this way and if I have then I apologise, but I have a feeling that's never going to be good enough. Good day to you.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 12:14 (five years ago) link

It's quite a challop to suggest that Dog Latin of all posters benefits from an automatically bestowed aura of respect.

Matt DC, Friday, 5 September 2014 12:19 (five years ago) link

Wow.

Can we have a thread about the new Aphex Twin album now, please?

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 12:28 (five years ago) link

tbh I think "dog latin banging on about 90's IDM" is just as valid for this thread as "I wish he didn't do interviews like this" or w/e

Maggie killed Quagmire (collest baby ever) (frogbs), Friday, 5 September 2014 13:05 (five years ago) link

DOG LATIN

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Friday, 5 September 2014 14:24 (five years ago) link

well this thread certainly got http://www.gadgetreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/cray-cx1-with-nvidia1.jpg

am0n, Friday, 5 September 2014 14:36 (five years ago) link

jaded ex-raver who'd moved to London and got lucky doing mobile phone adverts

haha i had no idea! is this how a lot of people heard his stuff for the first time? which tracks?

ugh (lukas), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:23 (five years ago) link

To Cure A Weakling Child was used quite prominently in an Orange mobile advert around 1997. I don't think it's the way most people discovered him (obv SAWII and several other releases came before) but that half of the Come To Daddy EP used the Orange mobile branding on the cover so it might have been an 'in' for some.

monoprix à dimanche (dog latin), Friday, 5 September 2014 15:26 (five years ago) link

In that Rolling Stone piece he says he 'came up to London to do press,' but then he says he lives in Scotland. Kinda makes you wonder.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 15:51 (five years ago) link

it does?

am0n, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:00 (five years ago) link

He also stated he came by train. In UK usage, railway lines almost always go "up" to London. It's not a geographical direction, it's a "towards city centre" terminology when people say they are going "up" London.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 16:02 (five years ago) link

Ah! I've learned a lot here.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 September 2014 16:22 (five years ago) link

This is apparently the last track on the album. Ridiculously gorgeous performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHsT8kEyzs

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 5 September 2014 17:19 (five years ago) link

It's quite a challop to suggest that Dog Latin of all posters benefits from an automatically bestowed aura of respect.

Indeed, he's often the ilx whipping boy... (re-posted from the worst music writing thread..)

http://i491.photobucket.com/albums/rr277/kadield/KickDog.gif

Comfrey Mugwort (Bob Six), Friday, 5 September 2014 17:59 (five years ago) link

I live in Glasgow and travel to London by train and always say 'I'm Going Down South' or 'Down to London', I've never heard anyone traveling from Glasgow to London by train say they are "going up" to London

sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:37 (five years ago) link

i wd always travel down to London as it is closer to hell than the North is

Daphnis Celesta, Friday, 5 September 2014 19:40 (five years ago) link

xp I guess old Cornish habits die hard

at about the same latitude as London, I have not come to any conclusion about whether London is up or down, except that I might get the train down to London and the bus up to London, because those are more euphonious pairings

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:53 (five years ago) link

actually I think it's the other way round

don't mind me

as a desperate attempt to be on topic, I quite liked that first track, but if it is the best track on the album then I'm not 100% sold yet (who am I kidding, I'll probably preorder)

club mate martyr (a passing spacecadet), Friday, 5 September 2014 19:54 (five years ago) link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_directions

In British practice, railway directions are usually described as up and down, with up being towards a major location. This convention is applied not only to the trains and the tracks, but also to items of lineside equipment and to areas near a track. Since British trains run on the left, the up side of a line is on the left when proceeding in the up direction. The names originate from the early railways, where trains would run up the hills to the mines, and down to the ports.

On most of the network, up is the direction towards London. In most of Scotland, with the exception of the West and East Coast Main Lines, up is towards Edinburgh. The Valley Lines network around Cardiff has its own peculiar usage, relating to the original meaning of travelling up and down the valley. On the former Midland Railway up was towards Derby. Mileposts normally increase in the down direction

Individual tracks will have their own names, such as Up Main or Down Loop. Trains running towards London are normally referred to as Up trains, and those away from London as Down. Hence the Down Night Riviera runs to Penzance and the Up Flying Scotsman to Kings Cross.

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:07 (five years ago) link

I mean, it's entirely possible that Richard's reference is more that Cornish habit of calling everything on the other side of the Tamar "Up Country", but technically and officially, "up" is towards London. (And after discussion on twitter, it emerges that in Ireland, all trains going towards Dublin are "up", regardless of geographical direction.)

Shugazi (Branwell with an N), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:10 (five years ago) link

Derail

smithery loves cuntery (wins), Friday, 5 September 2014 22:27 (five years ago) link

A bit like RAM, the track-by-track reviews from the listening parties have got me super excited. Fingers crossed.

groovypanda, Friday, 5 September 2014 23:01 (five years ago) link

love this gear list pic

http://i.imgur.com/NwlH3Ge.jpg

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:05 (five years ago) link

drukqs pwns

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:29 (five years ago) link

drukqs more like DrUDkqs amirite

the late great, Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:36 (five years ago) link

NO

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:39 (five years ago) link

drukqs might be his second-best album after saw2!!!

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 6 September 2014 00:49 (five years ago) link

incomparable albums, but drukqs destroys saw 2.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 6 September 2014 01:24 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Listened to "Selected Ambient Works 85-92" last night while I did photoshop work. Incredible stuff.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 August 2015 17:34 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I know this might seem like a useless revival/joke, but I'm actually being serious about the following:

I have to watch my nine-year-old nephew a lot, and, as a matter course, I just often tend to have music on in the background. I don't really think about it, and we sort of listen to everything together.
Anyway, ever since he was about two or three, he would waddle his way up the stairs to my bedroom and ask for music, specifically asking if we could "dance! dance!".
Of course, I would always oblige him. So our favorites were (my favs at the time), were "Lush 3-1" and "Lush 3-2" by Orbital, '76:14' by Global Communication (there's a couple danceable tracks on there), and random Richard D. James Material. I would take my little man and swing him from his arms and we'd spin in a circle and we'd just dance around like crazy. I miss those days.

Anyway, I've listened to SAW I in front of him a few times, lately. He's nine, now.
Recently, I caught him listening to "Xtal" alone with himself, on his iPad on Youtube, in the living room, when I wasn't paying attention to him.
He actually searched Aphex/the song up himself! I was really kind of proud of him! Techno and my other tastes have seemed to actually rub off on him (not that I had any plan to inculcate him with any of that, whatever).

It actually occurred to me, however. Now that he's searching Aphex Twin by himself on his iPad (keep in mind, he's nine), I'm worried he'll come across things like "Come to Dadddy" or "Windowlicker", etc.
There are probably other inappropriate things that I might also worry about him searching for, as well.

So, what to do? If I tell him something like, "No more Aphex Twin without my permission", I know he'll just look more of it up on his own (I don't want him coming across the disturbing videos). I could say nothing, and maybe he'll forget about Aphex Twin. Um, but it's not like I'm to stop listening to music in front of him, either.

Silly question, I know. I wish his parents had never given him a phone or iPad. What do parents say, here!?

potential trouble source (monster mash), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:42 (three years ago) link

It was seriously funny when I caught him listening to "Xtal" alone, though. He was just laying on the couch and staring at his iPad, and just bobbing his head up and down with his big old afro!

potential trouble source (monster mash), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:47 (three years ago) link

It's a lovely story, and re: what to do, maybe talk to his parents, I'm sure they're facing similar issues already?

fka styx (paul santa cruz), Sunday, 22 November 2015 20:57 (three years ago) link

i was... 8 or 9 years old when i fist saw the come to daddy video on mtv, and loved it. still do.
my advice would be to just let the little guy live his life.

BringTheAuBonPain, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:50 (three years ago) link

in fact!
i remember showing my little niece a bunch of chris cunningham videos when she was a toddler. maybe 3 or 4 years old. she was a huge fan of the horrors' "sheena is a parasite"... good times. now she won't shut up about one direction.

BringTheAuBonPain, Monday, 23 November 2015 01:53 (three years ago) link

i'm also worried that if i keep listening to afx and autechre with him, that he'll rebel as a teenager by listening to eric clapton!

potential trouble source (monster mash), Monday, 23 November 2015 02:11 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

This looks new? And good.

https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/ngaimodu-bradley-stryder

toby, Tuesday, 15 December 2015 19:41 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

man, i got the RDJ album a couple weeks ago and was totally floored, brilliant & beautiful album from beginning to end. i just got ...I Care Because You Do and it's just not doing it for me, the first 3 sides are actively irritating. the last side is nice

flappy bird, Saturday, 5 March 2016 21:42 (three years ago) link

Two very different albums, for sure. I wouldn't call myself the biggest Aphex Twin fan but sometime last year I had a period where I played through this whole discography chronologically and found I Care Because You Do to hold up really well. Perhaps there's something to hearing it come directly out of his ambient phase that made it more appealing to me. He hadn't yet reached the RDJ phase of rapid beats and more pop-leaning melodies. (I hesitate to say "pop" but I'm thinking of the light-hearted earworms of "4" or "Finger Bib").

But if you prefer the RDJ style, I don't really feel like he ever did anything that's as tight and purely enjoyable as that (the Come to Daddy EP was of the same era and is maybe the closest thing). Others in this thread who take the time to dive deeper beyond his proper albums may disagree.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 6 March 2016 12:46 (three years ago) link

I adore the Come to Daddy EP. The Little Lord Faulteroy version is one of my favorite songs ever.

flappy bird, Monday, 7 March 2016 00:51 (three years ago) link

you should listen to it more than once.. or something. it's much much better than come to daddy.

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 00:59 (three years ago) link

i feel like nobody's ever been able (let alone tried) to duplicate the stuff this album does. zillions of mid-period autechre tributes but the closest i can think of for ICBYD is the first disjecta album..

just a few extraordinary sounds on ICBYD:
- the drums on "acrid avid jam". and the code melody that sounds like andreas vollenweider
- the impossible deep and sad synth whine that permeates "mookid"
- is that a vocal/chorale sample in "cow cud" (the one with the door slam)? or some synthetic approximation? no idea. it's magic.
- the reverbed synth on "start as you mean". i just love that sound.
- and obviously the splat/bleep sound he uses for/overlays on top of snares etc is marvelous.

i used to skip the harder stuff (tracks 3-5 basically) but i love it all now.

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:11 (three years ago) link

code melody = coda melody

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:11 (three years ago) link

the chords of the "mookid" chorus/hook whatever... just magnificent. flappy bird, you can't deny that one!

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:12 (three years ago) link

ah i think i meant the second disjecta album. this one: https://www.discogs.com/Disjecta-Clean-Pit-And-Lid-Promo/master/2452

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:14 (three years ago) link

i'll give it another dozen or so chances, but for now it's in the sell bin

flappy bird, Monday, 7 March 2016 01:17 (three years ago) link

"mookid" kind of seems like a warmup for "fingerbib", now that i think about it.

lute bro (brimstead), Monday, 7 March 2016 01:23 (three years ago) link

ICBYD was my favourite Aphex at the height of my fandom. It's just the quintessential record for me, straddling his hard-techno and ambient past while looking towards more conceptual territory which he would explore on things like Come To Daddy. Every track is different from the last. It's dated a fair bit now. It's kind of trebly and harsh for today's ears. But still, Alberto Balsalm will never not be a classic.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Monday, 7 March 2016 11:18 (three years ago) link

^^^

there's a great disco nihilist post where he talks about how Aphex records used to be like shocking brand new worlds, ICBYD epitomizes that for me.

I got into electronic music in high school after I bought a used Warp sampler that was 1/2 ICBYD 1/2 Spanners (I remember biking across the Mississippi to Dinkytown to the store where I found it.) Sitting on the floor of my bedroom with the light flooding in listening to the first three tracks especially, I felt like I'd escaped from grunge to some incredible world of Apollonian beauty, I wanted everyone in the world to hear what I was listening to. Changed my life yadda yadda.

0 / 0 (lukas), Monday, 7 March 2016 20:48 (three years ago) link

ICBYD is the first aphex I heard and still my favorite album. it's just so ... different!

the late great, Monday, 7 March 2016 21:01 (three years ago) link

It's probably my least favourite of all the albums he released under this moniker.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 7 March 2016 21:10 (three years ago) link

ok, side 3 & 4 are really clicking with me now... mookid and alberto balsalm are really beautiful... don't dig em as much as RDJ LP or Come to Daddy but I'll hold off on selling this one...

flappy bird, Monday, 7 March 2016 21:34 (three years ago) link

i don't think i ever properly appreciated the RDJ album (listened to Come to Daddy a ton though).

i have a playlist of all the piano/percussion pieces from Drukqs for weekend morning listening, i think it's time to make one for all of his electronic tracks with pretty pretty melodies.

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 15:36 (three years ago) link

Aphex was such a big part of my life in the late 90s and early thousands that I have difficulty imagining what it would be like to listen to ICBYD or even RDJ Album for the first time in 2016. I identify very much with lukas's post, in that hearing these records at the time, I didn't have to make any mental allowances at the time: it felt very much like the sound of daringness and future-music. Ironically I can't help feeling that ICBYD sounds really of its time. Still very much a unique piece of work, it's nevertheless harder to appreciate what made it so outstandingly different and new on release.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Tuesday, 8 March 2016 16:34 (three years ago) link

cow cud is a twin

am0n, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 17:26 (three years ago) link

imo Little Lord Faulteroy towers over everything else he's done. Ridiculously brilliant song from beginning to end

flappy bird, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 18:22 (three years ago) link

94-95 best afx period

clouds, Wednesday, 9 March 2016 19:10 (three years ago) link

xp Come to Daddy as a suite is his (no pun intended) apex. Bouncing Bucephalus Ball and Flim were life-changing moments for me when I first heard them.

draxx them sklounst (dog latin), Thursday, 10 March 2016 16:24 (three years ago) link

if/when it's starting to get warm where you live, go for a stroll and listen to acrid avid and cow cud.

icbyd has the best drums. they're made by special construction equipment that can dig out chunks of your brain and burrow inside.

think this was the last time he fully went for a super saturated mix with huge reverbs everywhere. i love that sound. no idea how he found so much space around all the gnashing cymbals.

home organ, Thursday, 10 March 2016 18:28 (three years ago) link

paul woodford posted a peel session from 92: https://soundcloud.com/paulwoolford/sc-aphex-twin-peel-session-1992-live-from-sheffield-hallam-university-1993

home organ, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 14:55 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

http://gcasfm.com/blog/hospital-radio-dj-food - DJ Food - Selected Aphex Works part 2

(this was part 1 by the way : https://soundcloud.com/ninja-tune/solid-steel-radio-show-1322015-part-1-2-dj-food )

StanM, Sunday, 15 May 2016 16:44 (three years ago) link

19 Bradley echoes. So great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R74JBqM0lw8

CRANK IT YA FILTHY BISM! (jed_), Monday, 23 May 2016 00:22 (three years ago) link

PURE BUZZ

CRANK IT YA FILTHY BISM! (jed_), Monday, 23 May 2016 00:23 (three years ago) link

It's amazing that something this great was archived for years, unreleased and then dumped as part of an en masse.

CRANK IT YA FILTHY BISM! (jed_), Monday, 23 May 2016 00:26 (three years ago) link

i love this v SAW 85-92-sounding track -- it was my morning alarm for a few months

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI8Rc0vPmSA

clouds, Monday, 23 May 2016 00:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah that's great.

CRANK IT YA FILTHY BISM! (jed_), Monday, 23 May 2016 01:00 (three years ago) link

Aphex Yay

calstars, Monday, 23 May 2016 01:47 (three years ago) link

oops meant to post this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg_frWfGNmQ&list=RDJI8Rc0vPmSA&index=3

clouds, Monday, 23 May 2016 12:41 (three years ago) link

fuck

clouds, Monday, 23 May 2016 12:42 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

LOVE the cover

ejemplo (crüt), Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:07 (three years ago) link

I used to work for a business to business advertising company and pretty much every ad they designed looked exactly like that, but a good 15 years after that's was the style du jour.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 14:15 (three years ago) link

http://www.cheetah-ep.com/

Aphex Twin
Cheetah EP
WAP391

Released: 08/07/2016
Formats: Vinyl, CD, Ltd Edition Cassette, Digital

01. CHEETAHT2 [Ld spectrum]
02. CHEETAHT7b
03. CHEETA1b ms800
04. CHEETA2 ms800
05. CIRKLON3 [ Колхозная mix ]
06. CIRKLON 1
07. 2X202-ST5*

*CD, Cassette and Digital track only, included on download available with vinyl

ejemplo (crüt), Thursday, 9 June 2016 15:22 (three years ago) link

http://www.gforcesoftware.com/extras/syntharchive/cheetah-ms800

"The preproduction unit didn’t have a single factory sound, well, not that I could bloody well find” Chris recalls.

"During the course of the next few weeks I translated the manual into a series of diagrams and charts that visually allowed me to understand the ‘flow’ of the parameters, after which I set about creating ‘Tones’ and 'Patches' for this 15 note polyphonic, multi-timbral, filterless (what?), stereo bell box. The most bizarre thing is that you couldn't hear your parameter changes in real-time. You have to enter ‘edit mode’ adjust your parameters and then exit ‘edit mode’ to hear your changes."

Beyond daft? We think so because given its almost totally incomprehensible editing system could it have been a contributing factor to Cheetah vanishing soon after the MS800's release?

Nonetheless the MS800 had an almost unique tone and parameter structure which made it sonically interesting and reasonably useful back in the day. Nowadays though, we think it's a more interesting box of tricks than it was back then and the tones that you can coax from it provides a great counterbalance to analogue. The best description of the MS800's sound we've heard is "a PPG meets a Wavestation via a Sid Station."

Nonetheless it remains the most difficult instrument to program on the planet - If you don’t believe us trawl the net and find a manual. Once you've read it, if you're still interested in giving it a go, let us know, we’ve still got ours.

ejemplo (crüt), Thursday, 9 June 2016 15:24 (three years ago) link

sounds like programming the DX7

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:02 (three years ago) link

nice

ejemplo (crüt), Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:40 (three years ago) link

ah, yes, thought i remembered the name. they made a bunch of spectrum peripherals.

Spec-Drum anyone?
http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=1000062

koogs, Thursday, 9 June 2016 16:49 (three years ago) link

$17 USD for a normal bias (type i) audio cassette at BLEEP.. seems slightly ridiculous

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 9 June 2016 19:47 (three years ago) link

Uhm.. Cassettes these days are a novelty. That's what you pay for. Not normal or high bias or type 1 or 2. That shit don't matter any more. You shell out for novelty value or go to Spotify.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 9 June 2016 20:40 (three years ago) link

labels (like Drag City) sell new cassettes at a reasonable price ($8 for The Arizona Record), some labels even use good quality tape stock (chrome or cobalt), like Notice Recordings. BLEEP charge approximately $14 for shipping to the US... that's fucking ridiculous. i mean, why spend $32 on a cassette if you're actually going to listen to it? i know, i know. it's a NOVELTY

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 9 June 2016 21:25 (three years ago) link

If it's shipping costs you are on about I get that, absolutely. But otherwise? Tapes is tapes, man.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 9 June 2016 21:31 (three years ago) link

AT pretty much the only music I need at this point

calstars, Friday, 10 June 2016 23:28 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEP-Qpw3lHg

ejemplo (crüt), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:10 (three years ago) link

the director:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ottJOVPduoM

ejemplo (crüt), Tuesday, 21 June 2016 14:21 (three years ago) link

cool track

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 21 June 2016 15:38 (three years ago) link

streaming on bleep for those who preordered

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Thursday, 30 June 2016 17:01 (three years ago) link

Obv dud

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Friday, 1 July 2016 23:24 (three years ago) link

love u, but get the fuck off of ILM

sleeve, Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:07 (three years ago) link

Fair!

poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Saturday, 2 July 2016 00:11 (three years ago) link

new ep is dope (safe to say).. it's deceptively simple-sounding. i wonder how much of the material is actually sourced from the Cheetah (ms800?) synthesizer, the short interludes sound like they could be.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 8 July 2016 20:59 (three years ago) link

It's ok, kind of boring tbh

I still prefer the more mellow, slower sound loud tracks

calstars, Friday, 8 July 2016 21:19 (three years ago) link

cheetah 3 + 7 TEAC are a couple of the mellow, slower SC tracks.. but they sound better/more detailed (especially 7) on the ep. cheetah 3 (Cirklon3) does sound livelier in the context of the other cheetah ep tracks. the whole thing has an Analord 2 vibe, it's very chill

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 8 July 2016 22:02 (three years ago) link

analord 2 vibe = sold (not that i wasn't already)

clouds, Saturday, 9 July 2016 02:39 (three years ago) link

it's nowhere near as dark/brooding as Phonatacid... just, real relaxed. kinda goofy, 8-bit adventures

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 9 July 2016 03:36 (three years ago) link

the cd sounds freakin' fantastic on the stereo. way more present/direct/dry than Syro

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 9 July 2016 03:38 (three years ago) link

kinda reminds me of the "10 Ragas to a Disco Beat" sound, very clean and if you crank it up it sounds wonderful

frogbs, Thursday, 14 July 2016 18:37 (three years ago) link

not sure I would have even recognized the first track as Aphex

0 / 0 (lukas), Thursday, 14 July 2016 19:13 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

haven't tired of this.. a very relaxed and rock solid (consistent) series of tracks. anybody else playing it regularly?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Saturday, 20 August 2016 04:29 (three years ago) link

i spent like two years listening to drum track sharts from tech house producers and orphaned deejay selek effortlessly owns them all.

map, Monday, 29 August 2016 00:55 (three years ago) link

he's very high on the bangin' spectrum, like steve poindexter was, but different time and context.

map, Monday, 29 August 2016 01:03 (three years ago) link

aliens are always fresh.

map, Monday, 29 August 2016 01:04 (three years ago) link

that ep is so slept on; love it

clouds, Monday, 29 August 2016 13:05 (three years ago) link

love it. don't say it because i don't want to listen to arguments from nostalgists but he's at the height of his powers right now imo

Ban Lencowink (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 August 2016 13:13 (three years ago) link

agreed -- deeper, subtler, more dynamic, funkier, etc etc etc

clouds, Monday, 29 August 2016 13:16 (three years ago) link

yes to all that

Ban Lencowink (Noodle Vague), Monday, 29 August 2016 13:17 (three years ago) link

Chosen Lords/Rushup Edge/Ophaned Deejay Selek/Syro/Cheetax EP is a pretty remarkable run - clouds is right, but to some extent it's coming at the expense of his unparalleled oddness - he's not quite as fun to talk about anymore. Reminds me a bit of what's going on with Autechre, the old stuff is classic but I find myself reaching for the new stuff much more often. Even if for no other reason than it sounds fantastic.

frogbs, Monday, 29 August 2016 13:40 (three years ago) link

yeah, it all sounds amazing.

map, Monday, 29 August 2016 15:14 (three years ago) link

Aphex and Ae's progressions have felt very different to me. Autechre seem to have always been striving for the type of sound they've achieved in the last decade from the very start, and now that they've really nailed down their process, they're having fun and experimenting with composition and timbre in really rewarding ways.

Conversely, RDJ seems to have kind of locked in to this particular sound and mode of composition ever since Analord that is starting to get a bit stale to my ears, though a few tracks on some of his recent EPs have been interesting, they still exhibit a lot of the "sameness" of the rest of his 21st century output. I miss his playfulness, that trollish desire to take the piss in tracks in some creatively brilliant ways, that edge, and it feels like he's now simply making very satisfyingly cromulent electronic music.

octobeard, Monday, 29 August 2016 16:34 (three years ago) link

yeah, i dunno. there's blatant goofiness to "CIRCLONT14" (shrymoming mix), with the shifting hi-hat patterns and instances where the beat is so straightforward, they're augmented/emphasized as if he's saying "look at how dumb this is", and the gnarled, 20-step bass breakdown midway through the track - it's like an elaborate piss take. papat4 is just joyous.. the slick, rubbery bass lines are so effortlessly pert and buoyant-sounding, and those stuttered snare and tambourine bits -- it's so malleable and fluid-sounding. and then there's "s950tx16wasr10" (earth portal mix), which is possibly the 'deepest', most fleshed-out and varied track on the album, sort of a late grower. the first couple tracks of the album do feel refined, but Syro is all over the place, and it's undeniably playful. the Tuss eps really are the cream of the crop, imo. it does seem like he's zeroed in on a rich (but not super-varied?) sound palette. whatever mode he might be locked into, it's pleasurable enough. the way you described Ae in the first part of your post could to apply to RDJ over the last decade, though he's not fucking around with structure and composition in such extreme ways (like Ae).. i wouldn't say that he's solidified yet.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 29 August 2016 19:08 (three years ago) link

There's a really cool website here: http://user18081971.watmm.com/

that lets you vote on the various soundcloud tracks and then see what tracks have gotten the most votes. It's actually really helpful for sorting through the soundcloud tracks and I've found quite a few that are great. There's also a complete rip of the soundcloud tracks on watmm's aphex twin forum. Or I think you can find a torrent somewhere also.

I wasn't very excited about the SC tracks at first but now that I've heard some of the top voted ones, I think that there's some album quality stuff in there. The Cheetah track itself I think was chosen for release because of how many votes it got on that site, lol.

what_have_you, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 14:50 (three years ago) link

do you have to vote to see the results?

frogbs, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:05 (three years ago) link

I'm still spinning Syro on a regular basis. Great record.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:08 (three years ago) link

frogbs--no, but you do have to link it to a soundcloud account, I think, which is somewhat annoying.

what_have_you, Tuesday, 30 August 2016 15:21 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

dddoes this hint at future dates as well???

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Monday, 7 November 2016 23:51 (two years ago) link

https://youtu.be/dqxqbc4x4AA

AFX (Aphex Twin) - 21 Forgotten T

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Sunday, 13 November 2016 04:59 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

http://i.imgur.com/TBxbKZy.jpg

am0n, Friday, 2 December 2016 16:13 (two years ago) link

hah awesome

frogbs, Friday, 2 December 2016 16:33 (two years ago) link

that is pretty amazing tbf

Lennon, Elvis, Hendrix etc (dog latin), Friday, 2 December 2016 16:37 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

rip of houston mystery LP: https://archive.org/details/AphexTwinHoustonTX12.17.161

only heard side A so far but damn i didn't realize i needed noise/drone/acid aphex in my life

just another (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:55 (two years ago) link

wow, thanks

sleeve, Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:59 (two years ago) link

Amazing! Thank you!!

Mad Piratical (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 23:05 (two years ago) link

evidence?

Rock Wokeman (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 20 December 2016 23:21 (two years ago) link

is this real?

clouds, Thursday, 29 December 2016 20:27 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

https://aphextwin.warp.net/

groovypanda, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:48 (two years ago) link

um!

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Friday, 21 July 2017 15:45 (two years ago) link

classic

just another (diamonddave85), Friday, 21 July 2017 16:08 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

lol at this post on reddit -

There was an aphex twin show I saw where he literally sat on a couch in front of his laptop for almost 2 hours and just played music. He could have been playing minecraft for all I know. I never really understand live electronic music but it seems like there’s no right or wrong way to approach it.

calstars, Sunday, 5 November 2017 12:44 (one year ago) link

Ha, the one time I saw him live he did this. There was a stage with a couch on it. He reclined with a laptop while three people in giant Day-Glo teddy bear costumes stumbled around.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 November 2017 13:31 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

2002, no visible presence, just someone in giant Teddy Bear furry doing the same exact dance for 40-50 minutes over his "DJ" set (was billed as a performer at the festival).

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:30 (one year ago) link

2018 pic.twitter.com/ujv5ekAM9h

— Entr’acte (@LutyensBrontis) December 20, 2017

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:32 (one year ago) link

six months pass...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b88k6l

"Music writer John Doran ventures into the strange world of Richard D James. Over the course of three decades James, known to his legion of hardcore fans as Aphex Twin, has achieved the primary but evasive aim of most serious musicians - the invention, exploration and curation of a truly unique and inimitable sound."

Radio 4 just now...

koogs, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 11:11 (one year ago) link

(nothing very new tbh, and it didn't cover the most interesting thing he's done in the last few years, imo - the soundcloud dump)

koogs, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 11:39 (one year ago) link

^^otm. SoundCloud dump still delivers

brimstead, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 14:58 (one year ago) link

"L. James" — did lorna sign for richie's DX100 purchase?

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 3 July 2018 17:03 (one year ago) link

I listened to it earlier today and I must say I really enjoyed it. Haven't listened to a full album by RDJ in ages; the programme made me want to dig out his records and give them all a spin.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Tuesday, 3 July 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

NEWSFLASH! More Aphex Twin artwork has appeared in Turin 🇮🇹 pic.twitter.com/JXHbbHP3Yk

— BOILER ROOM (@boilerroomtv) July 31, 2018

groovypanda, Tuesday, 31 July 2018 13:15 (one year ago) link

looks analog

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 31 July 2018 17:44 (one year ago) link

Badass International DJ Mark Robinson is not happy

So us grafters bust our humps in the studio, make a dope track, spend money on promo, beg our peers to support, hustle, hustle... and it comes and goes.... Aphex Twin puts a picture up in a tube station and the whole industry goes mad for it

— Mark Robinson (@djmarkrobinson) August 1, 2018

groovypanda, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 09:14 (one year ago) link

first response HOF on that tweet

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 13:18 (one year ago) link

bad aphex no spend money on promo no beg peers to support

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 15:49 (one year ago) link

hey afx do u do promo 4 promo, hmu

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 15:59 (one year ago) link

yeah those tube paintings definitely weren't paid for by Warp or RDJ himself, they were definitely free and easy to do

flappy bird, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 17:06 (one year ago) link

Bust your humps recreating a rick James tune

Loser

brimstead, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:30 (one year ago) link

afx has talked about symbols he used to put around locally to create a coded language...i imagine he would not care if others repped him

sleepy sweet (Ross), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:13 (one year ago) link

who is mark robinson? according to discogs he released one record in 2010.

No organ. (crüt), Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:22 (one year ago) link

Maybe he should try tagging some garages or something.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:24 (one year ago) link

Looking at his tweets he's definitely badass at using hashtags xp

groovypanda, Wednesday, 1 August 2018 20:51 (one year ago) link

Warp's marketing campaign goes to the next level...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183353101869

brain (krakow), Thursday, 2 August 2018 09:55 (one year ago) link

Fragile item. Leaves are loose and may shift around. Could attempt fixing leaves with a spray adhesive at buyers request.

niels, Thursday, 2 August 2018 10:20 (one year ago) link

love it

niels, Thursday, 2 August 2018 10:22 (one year ago) link

new track and it's great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQcH3LkUstg

Neil S, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 06:33 (one year ago) link

ooh blocked

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 09:14 (one year ago) link

yeah gone now. A leak of some sort I guess.

Neil S, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 09:20 (one year ago) link

official vid here, just came through in a warp email

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqayDnQ2wmw

cheeseburger, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:19 (one year ago) link

did it come with an epilepsy warning?

koogs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:23 (one year ago) link

nice though. it's like 1000 videos in one. like a demoscene demo but with better music.

koogs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

Whoa that’s so cool!

Great track too

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:31 (one year ago) link

amazing video, think it comes with an epilepsy warning yeh

reminds me of the vid to holly herndon "chorus"

nxd, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:32 (one year ago) link

(they nixed the planned adult swim showing in amaerica today because it failed the epilepsy test)

koogs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:33 (one year ago) link

well I'm gonna go puke now

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 14:34 (one year ago) link

it's like an update of the Gantz Graf video

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:03 (one year ago) link

haha wow you weren't kidding!

sleeve, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:11 (one year ago) link

it's like an update of the Gantz Graf video

yea this was my first thought as well, the way every single movement in the music is reflected in the video is insane. if I watched this in VR I'd probably have a stroke

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:20 (one year ago) link

this track is great but also very much more of the same

the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:31 (one year ago) link

especially love the first minute or so of the video, with all the descending text. although i ended up pausing the video about a dozen times to read certain frames!

at the same time...

this track is great but also very much more of the same

― the masseduction of lauryn hill (Stevie D(eux)),

on first listen, i kind of agree. it would fit in on any number of his earlier releases, seamlessly. but that's not really a criticism in itself - if anything it kind of speaks to the mindblowing futurism of his 90s music. and if he released selected ambient works vol 3, and it sounded just like 2 (or 1) i would be absolutely thrilled. i think the bigger problem (personally speaking) is i'm not sure what place this kind of frenetic music has in my life anymore, to be honest. it's not you, rdj, it's me.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

i still go back to polynomial c - ON - Xtal and the ambient ones more than any of his newer music

it is nice he still puts out music but yeah cannot say i have been crazy about anything since DRUKQS

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:44 (one year ago) link

Predictably, Bleep's servers are pretty much melting right now

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 15:49 (one year ago) link

Was their new aphex music on KUSO flying lotus soundtrack

Ross, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 16:03 (one year ago) link

this track is great but also very much more of the same

Yep.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:30 (one year ago) link

I had no trouble loading https://bleep.com/release/106868-aphex-twin-collapse-ep, here have your trackers back Mark

?utm_source=Bleep&utm_campaign=85ec323687-Aphex+Twin+-+Collapse+EP+%28Warp%29&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_db8ca97389-85ec323687-1596021

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:34 (one year ago) link

I'm either getting 0 copies of the vinyl or 20

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 17:45 (one year ago) link

Finally got through here as well. I felt a little silly; the regular black vinyl pressing is fine, but...not shiney ;_;

You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 19:40 (one year ago) link

stevie otm so I don't know what to think of this. the majority of latter day aphex really bores me but this track and the video work really well

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:18 (one year ago) link

i liked cheetah, it was pretty mellow

brimstead, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 20:24 (one year ago) link

this feels old-fashioned. i know he's not interested in fashion, but still.

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:14 (one year ago) link

Track is just OK, boilerplate Aphex, I was hoping that by this point he'd be doing something a bit different, after the long break he had I thought maybe he'd return with an LP of piano music like the tracks on Drukqs, but happy enough to have him around putting stuff out even if he isn't quite at his peak anymore. Cheetah was nice enough.

The video is fucking great though, it's not like it has any completely new ideas, but I've not seen gants graf x cyriak before and it just works, really looks like something that should exist in 2018.

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:30 (one year ago) link

oh really? i thought that looked old-hat as well. fwiw, i don't think RDJ is old-hat!

Britain's Sexiest Cow (jed_), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

definitely seems to be keeping up with the OPNs and James Ferraros of the world there

tbh I think his new stuff is probably the most technically challenging and complex work he's ever done, it just doesn't really engage me like his previous work does. Syro was definitely one of those albums I thought was pretty rad on release but never really wanted to hear again after the first couple months. Then again drukqs was like that and I love that album now so who knows

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

it is definitely super technical but also it sounds like yet another refinement of a sound that started as far back as Druqks. At this point i can play a 'typical Aphex tune' in my head - detuned sinewaves, squelchy acidy noises and drilly rhythms bouncing all over the place, and that's sort of what he does now

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:54 (one year ago) link

its almost like you could write a program to just spit 'em out

frogbs, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 21:56 (one year ago) link

after the long break he had I thought maybe he'd return with an LP of piano music like the tracks on Drukqs

This was my hope, as well (love those tracks)

I was a massive fan in the day, but haven’t really enjoyed his new stuff

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:00 (one year ago) link

I wish he would either evolve rhythmically or, yeah, make more Drukqs-esque electro-acoustic music.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:10 (one year ago) link

biweekly reminder that the soundcloud dump still delivers

brimstead, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:13 (one year ago) link

or, yeah, make more Drukqs-esque electro-acoustic music.

Computer Controlled Acoustic Instruments pt2

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:37 (one year ago) link

he hasn't been away that long has he?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 22:49 (one year ago) link

Computer Controlled Acoustic Instruments pt2

I had hopes for this, but was disappointed

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 23:05 (one year ago) link

he hasn't been away that long has he?

two years since his last widely-available EP

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 23:29 (one year ago) link

Just listened to the new track... it definitely recalls classic Aphex, and has a propulsion that his other recent stuff has lacked (it’s no “Windowlicker,” though?)

My son heard it and made me replay the whole thing again while he watched the video, so maybe that’s something...

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Tuesday, 7 August 2018 23:32 (one year ago) link

I just want more 4/4 stuff with pretty melodies again.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 7 August 2018 23:47 (one year ago) link

Once in college, I was sitting around stoned with my jamband/jazz/J. Tull/etc. loving roommate.... I put on I Care..., and he was totally entranced — “I think about music this way, too”

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 00:00 (one year ago) link

I wish he would either evolve rhythmically or, yeah, make more Drukqs-esque electro-acoustic music.

― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, August 7, 2018 3:10 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean it's not a wild leap or anything but he is doing new stuff here, the second half of the first section (of the video) is more rhythmically interesting than anything on Syro

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 03:14 (one year ago) link

Sounded pretty aphex by numbers to me on the first listen, video was great but I may never watch it again. Notable for the appearance at 1:50 and 4:00 of the Michael Faraday monument at Elephant and Castle, near where he used to live.

home, home and deranged (ledge), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 07:56 (one year ago) link

the video impressed me more than the track tbph

. (Michael B), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 08:03 (one year ago) link

for (every aphex twin track)
{
wait (10);
printf('This is great - at last, an Aphex Twin track I can really engage with!');
wait (30);
printf('ehh never mind');
}

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 11:07 (one year ago) link

Song is cool
Video is trippy

Wish whoever made the video didnt use his logo so much

Illuminati cru is gonna go wild for the vid

F# A# (∞), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:13 (one year ago) link

or, yeah, make more Drukqs-esque electro-acoustic music.

Computer Controlled Acoustic Instruments pt2

Thanks, I had forgotten about that already (thought maybe it was part of the dump)

I mean it's not a wild leap or anything but he is doing new stuff here, the second half of the first section (of the video) is more rhythmically interesting than anything on Syro

True there is that crazy triplet-based shit, but it has the same busy, skittery effect.

For someone who is supposedly so experimental with gear I wonder if he is intentionally going back to some of his classic sounds here (those pads). Or...I read this interview with Taylor Deupree recently where he says that his friends make fun of him for buying new synths all the time and then making the same sound with each one, I wonder if that's what RDJ does.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 13:33 (one year ago) link

Brimstead otm

Dreadnought of chicanery (Ross), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 14:52 (one year ago) link

he hasn't been away that long has he?
An album length AFX release a year ago.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link

has anyone parsed the Soundcloud dump into eras/albums/curated selections of 'good stuff'? I don't even know where to begin with that. I have tracks come up on shuffle a lot and yeah there are some pretty great tracks in there...

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:19 (one year ago) link

True there is that crazy triplet-based shit, but it has the same busy, skittery effect.

You say stagnation, I say refinement, etc. But yeah.

btw I listened to chink 101 (hmm) on a proper system for the first time last night ... hadn't realized it was a proper bass-heavy SAW 85-92 club ambient banger

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:26 (one year ago) link

How does one access the Soundcloud dump?

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:27 (one year ago) link

xxp yes I tried, got through the first 100+ tracks I think, I could maybe post my lists? I organized it by sound/feel for the most part.

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:28 (one year ago) link

It's quite possible, maybe even likely, that he's had this track sitting around for 15 years or so tbh.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

would also be interested in recommendations and lists for the soundcloud dump - sleeve or anyone!

Dreadnought of chicanery (Ross), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:34 (one year ago) link

gimme 7-8 hours or so, I'll try and work something up. I have them organized into around a half dozen folders.

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:37 (one year ago) link

appreciated

Dreadnought of chicanery (Ross), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:39 (one year ago) link

morrisp I think there may be links upthread/under-the-fold to the Soundcloud files, worth a look anyway.

sleeve, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:40 (one year ago) link

has anyone parsed the Soundcloud dump into eras/albums/curated selections of 'good stuff'? I don't even know where to begin with that. I have tracks come up on shuffle a lot and yeah there are some pretty great tracks in there...

DJ Food did a "best-of" mix - passed the download limit years ago but still streamable

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 15:51 (one year ago) link

Thx to all

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 16:53 (one year ago) link

yea sleeve that would be much appreciated

I remember someone making a "SAW 1.5" which I thought was a good idea

maybe I'm a bit of a codger but I don't really know what to do with 150+ disconnected tracks

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

oh, same. even if i were on a desert island with nothing but a 150+ afx filedump, i'd probably keep thinking "ugh, i'll start sorting out through this sometime next week" until i was rescued or started talking to the volleyball

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 18:27 (one year ago) link

I got as far as 4 cdr's - interesting, but you know: other music is available

Mark G, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:48 (one year ago) link

I wonder who's got more hours of music out there now, Aphex or Autechre

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:51 (one year ago) link

I wonder who has more ILM threads!

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 19:52 (one year ago) link

Track is excellent Aphex but wow that video is a fucking trip.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 8 August 2018 20:37 (one year ago) link

There's lots of good stuff in the dump, you really don't need to look hard..

brimstead, Thursday, 9 August 2018 00:23 (one year ago) link

I will get to this list thing in the next few hours, I promise. feel free to hassle me if not.

sleeve, Thursday, 9 August 2018 00:26 (one year ago) link

here are some faves from the earliest sets he dumped, really only covers about 1/4. there's more great stuff in that 1/4 too!!

suzanne
symbonsad
red alert
sams car
martins car lpf
mental telepathy
donkey rhubarb remix
with my family
high hats tune tamclap orig
2tone[camborne college mix]

brimstead, Thursday, 9 August 2018 01:09 (one year ago) link

symbonsad
red alert

^i think both of these have been previously released though? isn't one of them the q-chastic track off that one comp?

brimstead, Thursday, 9 August 2018 01:10 (one year ago) link

btw I listened to chink 101 (hmm) on a proper system for the first time last night ... hadn't realized it was a proper bass-heavy SAW 85-92 club ambient banger

― Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, August 8, 2018 8:26 AM (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's weird how it has those clangy ICBYD/Ventolin type breakbeat drums, though, isn't it? i'd listen to it more but those high frequencies are kind of painful for me

brimstead, Thursday, 9 August 2018 01:13 (one year ago) link

nah I like them. I might have lost the frequencies you're complaining about.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 9 August 2018 02:10 (one year ago) link

here's my rough category groupings of (some of) the Soundcloud tracks.

these have my own numbering prefix that I added as the tracks came out so I could keep track of them.

grouped into 8 highly subjective categories: ambient, dance, fast/busy, harsh, mid tempo, pretty, slow, weird

ambient:
061 11 early morning clissold.mp3
107 4 red calx(slo).mp3
111 4 Red Calx.mp3
140 th1 (slo).mp3
163 33 SAW II un stabbing interview.mp3
164 9 un chopped f beginning (SAWII un).mp3
173 5 just fall asleep.mp3
179 35 SAW II un road shimmer f.mp3

dance:
011 SomewhereOTTGTBAG.mp3
085 (vocoderdisco).mp3
133 d15-8 ny groove2.mp3

fast/busy:
004 quad rave TEAC.mp3
012 thnxU4letinMeStyWitU.mp3
016 red alert.mp3
017 16 fresher + cleaner.mp3
028 17 kids beach.mp3
030 1 human rotation.mp3
031 6 Plinky Plonk[orig].mp3
032 8 knife fork freq.mp3
035 dance2thebeat.mp3
042 2 xame filtered.mp3
044 4 ACH.mp3
049 7 clapstab ab6.mp3
065 1 p-string.mp3
070 ep string.mp3
080 14 modular acid.mp3
087 6 fly beats.mp3
100 37 off key [bicycle wheel].mp3
118 phase acid.mp3
119 hypersquij.mp3
120 4 bonkophone2.mp3
126 prncDMC.mp3
127 4 frequency transmitter.mp3
130 33 jonny hawkes broken guitar[not finished].mp3
146 carn marth remix.mp3
147 (mature raver).mp3
149 23 lush acid.mp3
150 5 heliosphan live.mp3
152 179brk2.mp3
154 T08+4.mp3
161 (HAB un23).mp3
162 lannerlog.mp3
166 3 s-tral.mp3
168 1.5 dp5 beats.mp3
170 32 venus squidge.mp3
171 6 RANDOM FX.mp3
172 5 african rhyt.mp3
184 Medievil Rave Mk2.mp3

harsh:
010 24 squalitude acid.mp3
019 GPO beat.mp3
040 cooltempoDemo.mp3
046 17 Alis Trak[brain floss mix].mp3
050 8 world waver ab6.mp3
078 2 pcp 2 [unreleased version].mp3
079 23 moodular3[live gig]_soundcloud_188328563.mp3
081 9 leeds orbit[live]_soundcloud_188329063.mp3
094 8 metal beat.mp3
095 24 afx 71 1.mp3
102 6 step up to cornwall.mp3
104 4 how to science ab6.mp3
105 5 how to science 2 ab6.mp3
106 2 dual acid ab6.mp3
114 9 100m 2 (leeds orbit).mp3
115 23 100m 3 (moodular).mp3
125 5 strange rhythm.mp3
128 16 shit squidge.mp3
159 (mortal1).mp3
160 mortal 08.mp3
180 24 Triple D.mp3
181 25 rogphlange 1.mp3
182 36 Shroommdot [miCro3] [8th dimension transmission].mp3
187 13 Phukup2.mp3

mid tempo:
001 8 utopia.mp3
002 original chaos riff.mp3
003 22 pearls.mp3
006 bimbongo.mp3
009 1 chink 101.mp3
014 symbonsad.mp3
015 sallyVingoe.mp3
018 Afx origTheme.mp3
020 pump the shit.mp3
021 plinkyplonk.mp3
025 40 lannerlush full.mp3
026 39 fnkmg.mp3
027 Renalgade Sonar.mp3
029 martins car LPF.mp3
033 mooow [Dixons Theft mix].mp3
034 mental telepathy.mp3
037 glockenspiel TEAC.mp3
056 3 gerald remix.mp3
057 12 rough beat tune.mp3
058 13 high hats tune tamclap orig.mp3
059 16 bpjdrop forge.mp3
064 21 hapshifter1.mp3
067 15 bradley jam pump.mp3
068 1 70`s tune.mp3
069 2tone [camborne college mix].mp3
072 dance and play.mp3
077 nova robotiks.mp3
086 4 ny groove.mp3
101 21 forgotten T.mp3
116 bell bass (ep string).mp3
117 vibert remix 5 edit max c.mp3
119 fmsubBass.mp3
122 9 wind squidge.mp3
123 bob morgan.mp3
124 subCan.mp3
129 19 bradley echoes.mp3
136 33 synthi rhy [q].mp3
141 (taut).mp3
145 14 floating .mp3
151 notting hill bus.mp3
155 cottage3 e.mp3
176 30 ms short.mp3
178 18 ssbA.mp3
185 6 Gear Smudge.mp3
186 6 Backdrop Trigger.mp3
189 19 Winding Road.mp3

pretty:
041 19 ssnb.mp3
051 11 donkey rhubarb remix.mp3
052 18 with my family _.mp3
053 1 nocares.mp3
093 26 5 (demo).mp3
096 7 cutting.mp3
099 28 organ epic.mp3
112 5 Girl Boy Dark Version.mp3
131 37 last clissold maybe.mp3
132 15 sekonda.mp3
137 (watery big ez).mp3
139 th1.mp3
142 blue carpet.mp3
156 cottage4 af 1.mp3
157 4 acid organ.mp3
158 18 mello punchy.mp3
167 23 pianox.mp3
183 1 Lmt.mp3

slow:
005 suzanne.mp3
007 20 pink floyd.mp3
008 parking lot.mp3
022 sams car.mp3
024 10 bcr78.mp3
045 14 07 b.mp3
047 20 vtnm.mp3
048 21 vtnm2.mp3
054 7 ∂ƒ∆ [rough mix].mp3
055 2 ∂ƒx 126b.mp3
060 71 1st bank trac.mp3
062 12 space beat.mp3
063 13 barbarella on microdots.mp3
066 11 slo bird whistle[peel sesh].mp3
084 8 lush ambulance 2.mp3
097 5 sline (jap flute energy rave).mp3
098 35 japan.mp3
108 7 lush slow blips.mp3
109 19 slow early morning.mp3
134 d15-10 dulcimer dub.mp3
143 dsb.mp3
144 hilo.mp3
165 5 scorrier.mp3
169 23 band pass beat slo.mp3
174 7 dub cliker + 0hz.mp3
188 3 Slothscrape.mp3

weird:
013 x-rays.mp3
023 9 square dance.mp3
036 34.5 p.e.mp3
038 archponf.mp3
039 catsquidge2.mp3
043 13 short mental afx.mp3
071 bellbrk.mp3
073 droneBReak.mp3
074 fork rave.mp3
075 how much i wanted you.mp3
076 lanner b4 ardkore.mp3
082 10 shit smothered.mp3
083 5 acid misc.mp3
088 12 phuqed up.mp3
089 15 twister.mp3
090 11 phlangebeat.mp3
091 25 funnel.mp3
092 14 make a baby.mp3
103 3 hollow alias ab6.mp3
110 arrd (25 funnel).mp3
121 thy're here aahha.mp3
135 (throatie).mp3
138 d17-5 synth bonus beats 1.mp3
148 tigercubdelay.mp3
153 T13 quadraverb.mp3
175 24 casiotribaltronics mfm.mp3
177 22 gak bass.mp3

sleeve, Thursday, 9 August 2018 03:55 (one year ago) link

YSI? (j/k)

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Thursday, 9 August 2018 05:11 (one year ago) link

does anyone know if any of the soundcloud dump is copyrighted

flappy bird, Thursday, 9 August 2018 05:37 (one year ago) link

Copyright subsists from the point of creation.

16, 35, DCP, Go! (sic), Thursday, 9 August 2018 06:07 (one year ago) link

(God)

Mark G, Thursday, 9 August 2018 06:35 (one year ago) link

i think this is what the text says at the beginning?

this track's called collapse by the way
cos when the bass hit kicks in
and the tempo starts slowing down,
it's like a collapse of sorts :)
i'm gathering visuals references at the mo
is ther any other point cloud or other references you like i should look
nope don't think so.. I still love ascii visuals also..
surprised it never got used more but maybe it's cause I don't get out much
sure... i'll look into doin 3d ascii point-cloud cross over.
maybe when you get up close to the point cloud it looks more like ascii...
yeah i see your point with midi
but you could just edit tight to the beat manually anyhow can't you?

No organ. (crüt), Friday, 10 August 2018 00:32 (one year ago) link

the whole soundcloud dump is on archive dot org if anyone needs it btw
https://archive.org/details/AphexTwinAllUser18081971SoundcloudTracks

methanietanner, Friday, 10 August 2018 00:35 (one year ago) link

thanks rich

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 10 August 2018 03:17 (one year ago) link

reminder to revisit the houston tracks for some gr8 noize/drone AFX

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Saturday, 11 August 2018 02:58 (one year ago) link

When thru a good chunk of the Soundcloud tracks -- there's good stuff for sure (tho also some headache-y stuff)

Listening to the "Classics" LP right now; it's so bomb...

empire bro-lesque (morrisp), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 19:16 (one year ago) link

Aphex s DNA seems part of Sophie’s new one
Ponyboy sounds like an updated ventolin

Ross, Tuesday, 14 August 2018 20:00 (one year ago) link

https://aphextwin.warp.net/t69-collapse

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:41 (one year ago) link

2nd track sounds great

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 14 August 2018 21:42 (one year ago) link

Sorry for the spam but this should be of interest to keen AFX watchers.

I've just published a Weirdcore interview in which he talks about the T69 Collapse video in depth and confirms other films are on their way, maybe even a VR version. And much other tittle tattle besides.

Does RDJ read the YouTube comments? "Big time."

Doran, Saturday, 18 August 2018 09:57 (one year ago) link

good interview, this at the beginning though:

thinking is innately, reliably visual. If I asked you to think of your favourite song or some music, it would, generally speaking, be a challenge. It's hard to manifest sound alone in one's thoughts without some manner of visual accompaniment. That’s because the ‘language’ employed by the human brain is primarily one of images. Even if we’re engaging in dense verbal cognition such as preparing a speech, vivid pictures act as the unbidden chaperone of all thought.

may be true for the author, far from true for everyone. there is a thread on it somewhere...

home, home and deranged (ledge), Friday, 24 August 2018 13:17 (one year ago) link

Aphantasia - the inability to visualise things in your mind

a better place for discussion.

home, home and deranged (ledge), Friday, 24 August 2018 13:26 (one year ago) link

ah yeah that's not my experience at all. great piece though

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 24 August 2018 15:29 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

How’s the new one then

Ross, Monday, 17 September 2018 21:21 (one year ago) link

I went looking for it last Friday, found 1 copy in the local hmv, filed away under aphex, none on display anywhere. (Same with orbital album, didn't see a single one)

Not listened yet.

koogs, Monday, 17 September 2018 22:33 (one year ago) link

It's very hard and breakbeat-y.... the tracks feel too long and unfocused for me to take in (and honestly each one started giving me a headache halfway thru). I'm also not hearing the melodies underneath the beats that made the RDJ Album-era tracks such a pleasure. I'm probably being a bad listener, though...

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 00:24 (one year ago) link

no surprises

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 02:19 (one year ago) link

he's old-fashioned. no one's cared about skittering drill and bass'y music for a decade or more. it was old-hat even then and it certainly doesn't fit in with anything people are playing currently.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 02:37 (one year ago) link

he can do so much that this seems like a weird old fixation that no one would care about. i'm sure if you're a gearhead it might seem exciting.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 02:40 (one year ago) link

it's fucking excellent, maybe the best thing he's done since The Tuss eps. Unfocused, my ass. It's melodically, harmonically cohesive, with loads of varied percussion--hurried, unhurried (spacious) at times, and it breathes. Listen to track four, the "Abundance10edit" track, and tell me this is old hat. It's like "Goodbye Rute", fully fleshed out. "Mt1" (track 3) recalls elements of Drukqs, as well as the delicate melodic timbres of "Fenix Funk 5", and it kicks ass. This isn't some bullshit, Venetian Snares-like, dime-a-dozen drill 'n bass track, more-is-more, hyperactive fiddle faddle.. it's a motherfucking steak dinner.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 03:21 (one year ago) link

This isn't some bullshit, Venetian Snares-like, dime-a-dozen drill 'n bass track, more-is-more, hyperactive fiddle faddle

actually ....

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 04:49 (one year ago) link

"Mt1" (track 3) recalls elements of Drukqs, as well as the delicate melodic timbres of "Fenix Funk 5"

Maybe that’s part of it then; these aren’t key touchstones for me.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 04:55 (one year ago) link

actually ....

real talk, on ILX

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 05:08 (one year ago) link

I like this more than Cheetah I think

flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 05:17 (one year ago) link

I'm not as well versed as you all in RDJ's work - have heard maybe 10 of his albums/EPs - but this does remind me of The RDJ Album (my favorite). melodies are there but only in fragments, and there are lots of them. it's not nearly as busy as I thought it would be reading the comments here

flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 05:20 (one year ago) link

His music was always so “expressive” to me, and I just haven’t really heard that element in any of the new stuff. But it could also just be that my tastes have changed, and I’m not able to give him a fair shake... I didn’t even care too much for that “legendary” Caustic Window LP (CAT023) that was released via Kickstarter a few years back (and that was old stuff).

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 05:40 (one year ago) link

aphex tracks absolutely dime a dozen considering the man himself just poops them out by the 100s on soundcloud

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 06:35 (one year ago) link

it's a motherfucking steak dinner.

it is absolutely not a steak dinner. it is a bowl of lucky charms washed down with a slug of hi-c.

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 06:41 (one year ago) link

Sounds pretty good tbh xpost

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 06:52 (one year ago) link

In my head that's more like Rustie or someone.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 06:53 (one year ago) link

sure, i just meant to say APHEX is NOT NUTRITIOUS

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 07:00 (one year ago) link

it's not even particularly filling

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 07:01 (one year ago) link

rustie at least has brought something new to the table in the last 10 years, though he's been stuck in a real rut himself for at least 5

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 07:02 (one year ago) link

and that's okay! i think some of the best music of the last 20 years is 20 years old, eg ICBYD and RDJ albums

this is just ... whatever the word is for juvenalia, except the kind that you make when you're old

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 07:04 (one year ago) link

eh, it's sounding pretty well refined to these ears... it sounds elegant, even. It sounds fun, joyful.. it is fun. It doesn't sound like an old guy trying to sound youthful/relevant, or whatever.. do these tracks actually sound rote, or hackneyed to people (!?)

I don't compare this to the Soundcloud dump, as these tracks are obv. of a higher caliber / standard / more developed, or fit for a proper release.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:32 (one year ago) link

there's loads of fantastic, often amateur music on Soundcloud, by the way

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:36 (one year ago) link

*amateur-made, i s'pose

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 08:39 (one year ago) link

this EP isn’t terrible but I just question why we need more music like this in 2018 esp from a man who made a career out of innovation and exploration

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:21 (one year ago) link

"do we really need more..."
About 488,000 results (0.26 seconds)

niels, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 12:24 (one year ago) link

Single's pretty good, the rest is a little too heavy on the rhythm for my Afx tastes. It's no Syro, which at this point is probably the LP of his I've listened to the most.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 13:38 (one year ago) link

When I think of classic RDJ (from any era), I think of each track exploring a single, strong musical idea — in engaging, surprising, and “personal”-feeling ways. That’s a defining characteristic for me. And it’s something else I don’t hear in the new work... everything feels like, idk, a technical exercise to me.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 13:53 (one year ago) link

"but I just question why we need more music like this in 2018 esp from a man who made a career out of innovation and exploration"

it's been prompted before, but why do we need any more music like ___ _____, et al -- in 2018, 2020, 2050 etc.

the ep sounds like classic RDJ with new twists and turns... the percussion and flows on tracks two and four suggest/assert new areas of exploration, vaguely recalling vibes of Jlin and others, possibly? what i don't find lacking are "strong musical ideas", sustained throughout the tracks--it doesn't feel like a clinical / technical exercise, imo

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

it's been prompted before, but why do we need any more music like ___ _____, et al -- in 2018, 2020, 2050 etc.

99% of the time we don't

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:43 (one year ago) link

new music is super overrated.

maybe if people listened to better music they wouldn't constantly need to seek out new music

actually now that i have typed that, i realize it is not really true, maybe the thing is people need to listen better to the good music that already exists?

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

Is there any indication or claim that this stuff is new, as in, even recorded recently?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:46 (one year ago) link

good question

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

xp

it is kind of like when basic channel happened and then spawned a million dub techno imitators and a huge dub techno scene that overall just wasn't that great

except in this case it's aphex cutting out the middle man and imitating himself over and over again

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 15:48 (one year ago) link

nothing wrong with some tunes iirc

crüt, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

Lates opinions about new music are pretty whack

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:05 (one year ago) link

one can listen to old or new music, some of us you know love music and haven’t become jaded

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:06 (one year ago) link

don't really get the complaints. it's not like some blatant *retread (not even subtly) - it's a welcome new Aphex ep, with masterful tunes. The guy sounds reinvigorated. If you're hearing self-parody then you're not really listening.

*like Malkmus on Real Emotional Trash--he actually quotes chord progressions / vocal melodies/-isms from Pavement tunes.. dunno if it's conscious or not

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:08 (one year ago) link

xp it's true, you can listen to whatever shit music you want, i have no power over you

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:18 (one year ago) link

btw tho you should know my opinions are worth their weight in gold

and that wack is spelled wack not whack

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:18 (one year ago) link

Wack as a heart attack

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:24 (one year ago) link

Dude I have no problem with you, also I haven’t even heard the aphex. Just seems you’re a little irritable

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:28 (one year ago) link

oh good. i have no problem with you either!

i just want to register my opinion - that aphex should stop releasing new music and that people should stop treating new aphex releases like titanic events - over and over and over again

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:30 (one year ago) link

Agreed yeah

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:32 (one year ago) link

Also Lowell is a great poster

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:32 (one year ago) link

you know what was a really "great" "late" album? that Daft Punk album that was released a few years ago, just a monumental achievement

crüt, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:33 (one year ago) link

just a great return to roots album from the group who invented techno!

crüt, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:33 (one year ago) link

crut stop trolling me

lowell is a fine poster. i'm not casting aspersions on anybody's posting, just registering my opinion on how overrated this new aphex is

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:34 (one year ago) link

I get frustrated with RDJ cause he seems to pump out endless variations of tracks in the style of his I never cared much for (hyper, aggressive, busy) and very very few of the style I do like (slower, trippy, contemplative).

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:44 (one year ago) link

I'm listening to "RDJ Album" now... so good

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:49 (one year ago) link

yes

i am totally not jaded, i just listened to ICBYD last night with nearly as much joy and wonderment as i felt first hearing it 21+ years ago

and then this morning i tried the new one again and made it 1.5 tracks in before i got bored

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 16:51 (one year ago) link

Cow Cud Is Still a Twin in 2018

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

I don’t have much time for his newer stuff either other than cheetah. Rep for icbyd, polynomial c, on and all the ambient ones. I think it’s also a case of saturation for me, I was obsessed with afx in high school and drukqs felt like a good jumping off point. I think it’s changed tastes for me as I’ve also found it hard to get into new aurechre due to breadth of material. Also i like less difficult music in general as I’m getting old and a big softie now

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:05 (one year ago) link

Also if afx is repping jlin then I know my tastes aren’t really in the wheelhouse anymore

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:07 (one year ago) link

"Acrid Avid Jam Shred" is seriously one of the greatest opening traxx of any album

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:35 (one year ago) link

yes

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:35 (one year ago) link

vahid, granny, what did you think of cheetah

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:42 (one year ago) link

i felt that cheetah was relatively fresh

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:50 (one year ago) link

*furrows brow, moves left foot a quarter turn while holding hands in ready position*

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 17:56 (one year ago) link

Oh shit!! I've always wanted to find this (and here it is) --

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiXoIZ7pf9g

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:03 (one year ago) link

having a party still not my idea of a fantasy in 2018

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:06 (one year ago) link

maybe if people listened to better music they wouldn't constantly need to seek out new music

actually now that i have typed that, i realize it is not really true, maybe the thing is people need to listen better to the good music that already exists?


Er, right.. the problem is that we're (people) simply listening to shitty music. Or, we're listening to good music inaccurately. That's a sound argument. I don't think this is a "titanic" event.. this is ILX - it's an appropriate place to discuss new Aphex Twin material. Nobody makes music like this, as good as this--that might be part of why some find it enjoyable. Who is overrating it, Pitchfork!? Who actually gives a fuck what Pitchfork says about anything, anymore?

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:07 (one year ago) link

so should I listen to this y/n

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:11 (one year ago) link

ok to clarify a bit RDJ has made a career out of innovation and overhaul and discovery and creating new types of sounds, like even when the Analord stuff was hella retro throwback, it didn't sound identical to anything he'd done before

this sounds identical to lots of stuff he'd done before, like this literally sounds like outtakes from druqks or RDJ album

when I say "I just question why we need more music like this in 2018" I mean I'm kind of underwhelmed when someone who for so long presented new ideas presents old ideas

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrWTZk0sMS4

one example from the new ep

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:19 (one year ago) link

constantly trying to present new ideas is what leads to shitty "difficult" music. obv I have no idea what he was thinking about back then, but maybe he just was making sounds that he liked? and they happened to be "new ideas"? and he's still producing sounds that he likes, whether they're new to listeners or not.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:25 (one year ago) link

haven't heard cheetah!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:26 (one year ago) link

when I say "I just question why we need more music like this in 2018" I mean I'm kind of underwhelmed when someone who for so long presented new ideas presents old ideas

maybe the problem is that you're setting expectations too high? I don't know, it sorta helps when you're not anticipating / expecting anything. I suppose it also helps if you hold Drukqs, Analord, and the Tuss in high esteem.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:26 (one year ago) link

Nobody makes music like this, as good as this--that might be part of why some find it enjoyable. Who is overrating it, Pitchfork!?

well i daresay you're overrating it

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:27 (one year ago) link

when you say "nobody makes music as good as this"

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:27 (one year ago) link

it sorta helps when you're not anticipating / expecting anything. I suppose it also helps if you hold Drukqs, Analord, and the Tuss in high esteem.

you keep contradicting yourself!

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:28 (one year ago) link

see also upthread when you said it was simultaneously hurried and unhurried!

see also when p sherburne said in his pfork review that it was both random like a demolition derby and precise like a laser guided missile

i mean this is part of what i'm reacting to - the praise i'm hearing seems ... incoherent

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:29 (one year ago) link

describing music.. generalizing descriptions, so as to try to relate it coherently... you're bound to fail, fuck up, miss the mark, etc.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:34 (one year ago) link

This is the bewildering line for me in Sherburne's review:

There have been times in James’ career when his knowing smirk threatened to eclipse the music.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:36 (one year ago) link

Ok, so we are overrating current Aphex Twin music. I find these tunes stimulating and enjoyable in unique ways.. it scratches a particular itch. I honestly wasn't expecting much after Cheetah.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:40 (one year ago) link

granny listen to cheetah! it's my favorite new Aphex stuff since a while. and it's slow.

finally listening to this ... wow clear Jlin vibes, on 1st 44 at least

it's easier for me to enjoy this when I forget his "stature" and imagine I'm with a bunch of high people putting out cigarettes in soda bottles in a room with dirty couches

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:44 (one year ago) link

boy howdy everyone sometimes it's good to be a casual fan

flappy bird, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 18:56 (one year ago) link

ok I listened to Cheetah. It's...ok. Def more in the vein that I enjoy, but I can't see myself returning to it much. Kinda bedroom techno by numbers. All the tracks sound similar and lack intrigue. Whereas ICBYD and his other stuff I liked, each track had its own personality. Variety of moods, emotions textures, melodies/harmonies, diff sounds on the drums/rhythms. Maybe I'm just older and JADED but I just hear "here's some shit I made on vintage equipment, I'm gonna go poop out another 200 of these tracks tomorrow". Sorry I hate to hate on stuff, I really do.
I'll give it another shot in a few days or so tho.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:21 (one year ago) link

^^this nails it better I than I did/could

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:25 (one year ago) link

guys this EP is great

I get all that stuff upthread as it applies to Syro or Cheetah or that collection of orphaned AFX tracks but the stuff on here is so much bouncier and fun

frogbs, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:33 (one year ago) link

CHEETAH IS A GROWER *runs out of room sobbing*

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 19:39 (one year ago) link

The only Aphex Twin which ever did anything zo me was Didgeridoo. I guess the reason is that it sounds organic and is hypnotic at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAkFBQ6sIcc

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 20:21 (one year ago) link

lol

the late great, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:19 (one year ago) link

i like cheetah, it has some nice bit-crushed esque thin synths that sound really crystalline

but yeah i see what dainger is saying about the vintage equipment angle which kind of is the whole deal if you like it or not, the record is very understated and the beats are super rudimentary - i like that, but mostly as a reaction to the overly cerebral stuff he does like music for machines or whatever that one was called.

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:21 (one year ago) link

Is there any indication or claim that this stuff is new, as in, even recorded recently?

track 2 has an obvious jlin influence

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:24 (one year ago) link

Yeah and he’s been playing jlin in dj sets

Ross, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 21:43 (one year ago) link

alex in manhattan, what abt this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQXMvX1HRA8

vision joanna newsom (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 01:33 (one year ago) link

not sure about the rest but "MT1 t29r2" rules

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 01:41 (one year ago) link

I love that, Steve. Especially before the computer beats arrive ;-) To be honest, I find this kind of thing, spinning an acoustic theme further with electronic sounds quite interesting and in this case even successful.

Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 05:04 (one year ago) link

He might not be breaking new ground but unlike this more than a lot of his other stuff since his reemergence.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

track 2 has an obvious jlin influence

I don't know about Jlin (not enough triplets), but the half-time breakdown w/claps is a giveaway that he's heard some music in the last decade.

I could definitely see him loving Jlin as as contemporary template for super dense/busy beats though.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:34 (one year ago) link

yeah people are guessing that cuz, like Ross said, he plays her stuff out

eg he played 4 Jlin tracks in his set in Houston

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 16:39 (one year ago) link

not sure about the rest but "MT1 t29r2" rules

― reggae mike love (polyphonic)


the joke's on you, bud. didn't you recognize it as a Drukqs outtake!? if not an outtake, then it's of the same palette; he's been using the same Technics LEGO set for the last nineteen years. and you're not actually enjoying the track--it's just that you haven't been exposed to any actual good music before.. don't worry, just don't speak of it in a positive way and we're cool.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:21 (one year ago) link

attaboy

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:44 (one year ago) link

What you mean I don't know good music, I have Disco Duck on 45

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:48 (one year ago) link

a disco duck 45? sounds like you are a connoisseur of novelty / comedy music, therefore an ideal listener for late-period aphex

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

I listened to this and it sounds great. I can get why some people think he's going through the motions of they only listened to the title track.

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:08 (one year ago) link

I really like this ep

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:12 (one year ago) link

Abundance is dope

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:12 (one year ago) link

*if not of

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:15 (one year ago) link

Dunno that first track bangs. Those distorted low snares that come in near the end remind me why I started producing to begin with - pure frequency, texture - bangs hard

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:22 (one year ago) link

Late great I would totally take you for a beer man. But those drums around 2 40 on the 2nd track start to mirror the melody and this is definitely the most overt aphex has been in sometime. Aphex encourages new ways of listening
I think

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:27 (one year ago) link

tbh I understand the criticism in this thread and for the most part this is exactly what the good people of ILM made one thousand posts about when Syro was released. 90s Aphex was cool in that his tunes were more conceptual and memorable and you could write about them in a way that was intriguing and fun. it had the prankster and outsider element to it. whereas his new music is knotty and technical and quite frankly a lot of it sounds the same as itself. it's no fun to write about. hence why so many Syro reviews made an entire paragraph describing the last track.

this EP definitely feels distinct though - it has that aural rollercoaster feel to it that a lot of the good Aphex stuff does. sounds awesome too. suddenly I'm interested in this guy again.

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:33 (one year ago) link

Abundance feels like tornado Wallace on speed.

One thing I can get behind with this ep is the merger of frenetic percussion with ambient synths or vocal melodies. Abundance borders on r n b with those vocal loops but does not deploy them enough to make that concrete

Often the drums are pitched to the music which is fucking solid

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:41 (one year ago) link

Also frog otm

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:41 (one year ago) link

One thing I can get behind with this ep is the merger of frenetic percussion with ambient synths or vocal melodies.

Put that way it *does* sound like completely new territory for Aphex Twin ;-)

the sun-dried raisins of muesli (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:49 (one year ago) link

Lol :)

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 18:52 (one year ago) link

Syro was more melodic than this. He has been branching out, even though timbrally it feels like all's said and done at this point in his 'late' period.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 19:01 (one year ago) link

What you mean I don't know good music, I have Disco Duck on 45

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, September 19, 2018 5:48 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have the album!

Mark G, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 20:18 (one year ago) link

90s Aphex was cool in that his tunes were more conceptual and memorable and you could write about them in a way that was intriguing and fun. it had the prankster and outsider element to it. whereas his new music is knotty and technical and quite frankly a lot of it sounds the same as itself. it's no fun to write about.

Just FTR, my personal reception of new Aphex has nothing at all to do with what it's like to "write about it"...

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:18 (one year ago) link

So far I'm really enjoying this. It has a lot more personality than the other stuff he's put out this decade. Yes, it sounds like an Aphex recording, but it also sounds very much of the moment in terms of production quality and complexity.

I like the middle section on the first track where the drums sound like they are speeding out if control. And I agree that the second track is taking its cues from Jlin.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:36 (one year ago) link

xp I mean, you can substitute whatever...talk about, think about, be inspired by, etc. etc. for me my entryway into Aphex was the cover to the Richard D. James album + some article talking about how he was making rhythm tracks out of Coke cans + that thing where he hid his face in the spectrogram of a track. having no clue what IDM was I had to know what this kind of music sounded like. of course it wasn't just the gimmicks that made this stuff so classic, using more tangible melodies had something to do with it. like a lot of "outsider" stuff that becomes famous it's some combo of weirdness and accessibility.

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:42 (one year ago) link

again, from a casual fan's perspective, there's a lot more to chew on here compared to Cheetah, Syro, or the Acoustic Computer whatever EP (which I really liked). it's 28 minutes but I feel like I'll get the most mileage out of this record than any other I've heard so far in 2018.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:45 (one year ago) link

Aphex is good and talented and we should be glad he still does his things. We’re all armchair critics, what’s your contribution to society? Posts on Ilx?

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:47 (one year ago) link

Syro was really, really great. That second track!

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:47 (one year ago) link

Is that Xmas ??

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:48 (one year ago) link

Oh that’s great !

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:49 (one year ago) link

We’re all armchair critics, what’s your contribution to society? Posts on Ilx?

I deliver babies in war zones, and post in ILX in my spare moments.

stan in the place where you work (morrisp), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:52 (one year ago) link

Hahaha good poster

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:53 (one year ago) link

this thread has accumulated roughly as many new answers since yesterday as the jlin thread has accumulated in three years

i think that is bad, not good

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:54 (one year ago) link

i guess tbf half of those posts are me complaining about how overrated aphex twin is

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:55 (one year ago) link

is the jlin thread full of trolls trying to piss on people's enjoyment of the music

xp lol

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:56 (one year ago) link

Lol

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:57 (one year ago) link

it's not trolling to say you think music (a song, an album, an artist, artist's body of work for the last 10-15 years) isn't that good

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 21:59 (one year ago) link

eg

people are fucking morons especially people who like this trash band

― crüt

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:02 (one year ago) link

people are fucking morons especially people who like this trash band recent aphex better than jlin

― crüt

fixed

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:03 (one year ago) link

i regret nothing

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:05 (one year ago) link

i'm not sure anyone's arguing that recent aphex is better than jlin

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:05 (one year ago) link

I will

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

:P

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

i know, i know

just making a point about trolling vs dissent

the late great, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

people are fucking morons especially people who like this trash band recent aphex better than jlin big & rich

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:06 (one year ago) link

in fact on the jlin thread i believe i made the argument that the only person even operating at her level is afx

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

Would pay crut to be my editor tbh

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:07 (one year ago) link

I’m cool with jlin if I got migraine pills handy

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:08 (one year ago) link

At least oval had sympathy for my broken discman

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:12 (one year ago) link

aw, i like black origami

crüt, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:12 (one year ago) link

recent aphex is better than autechre tho

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:14 (one year ago) link

I like kyanite a lot

Just like having fun cheers

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:14 (one year ago) link

Which way Dave

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:14 (one year ago) link

recent aphex is better than autechre tho

slam the brakes buddy

frogbs, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:15 (one year ago) link

Feels like a road runner cartoon

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:17 (one year ago) link

lol so many twists and turns on opinions dr

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:18 (one year ago) link

ZANY APHEX = NO THANK U

brimstead, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 22:42 (one year ago) link

I like Jlin, and I'm glad Aphex Twin is learning something from her.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 19 September 2018 23:24 (one year ago) link

at least they are not Sophie.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Thursday, 20 September 2018 00:06 (one year ago) link

I liked Cheetah better but this pretty good, especially “1st 44”

latebloomer, Thursday, 20 September 2018 00:20 (one year ago) link

Jed - what’s that mean about Sophie??

Ross, Thursday, 20 September 2018 05:39 (one year ago) link

RDJ supposedly used an Elektron RYTM for parts of these tracks. You can sort of recognize its 'character' in the title track, but it's not so easy to identify. the RYTM is an eight-voice, analog drum synthesizer that also plays samples. There's a Pitchfork interview with James (and his wife?) from around the time Syro came out, and they mention the drum machine a few times (a gift from Elektron?) - it's a mk1 version of the RYTM, where you have to load samples using a computer. The MKII version (with improved functionality, display, size, appearance, etc.) came out just last year, and it's a sampler in the sense that you can just plug something into its input(s) and record (anything, using a 3.5 mm / 1/4" cable) directly. You can combine those samples with the sounds of the drum machine in a variety of ways. If you're at all familiar with Elektron step sequencers you'll know that using them can take a lot of preparation and forethought... volume/filter/envelope/effects parameters, sounds, sound behavior, their frequency of occurrence, logic conditions, etc. - it's all highly programmable / malleable, to a maddening extent. The workflow of the Elektron sequencer is not at all intuitive until you understand how it works. And then there are the pads of the RYTM, which add a whole 'nother level of control. The Texas band xuiqen uses Elektron machines, and their music (on the album moiré is the next best thing to Autechre (similar to Ae). I keep reading that Autechre used Elektron machines on both Untilted and Quaristice.. most likely the Machinedrum and the MonoMachine, both of which are badass / legendary synthesizers already. They're really expensive. Getting carried away with trivia, apologies. Been listening to the Collapse CD on the stereo this evening, and it is indeed FUN :)

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWyVwR_MH1V2Rzo3wisFRgNw9lmVeZi1Z (btw)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 21 September 2018 05:57 (one year ago) link

Poll: Lets Go Deep vs Stone In Focus

saer, Friday, 21 September 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

It kinda sounds like two disparate tracks playing simultaneously..

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 21 September 2018 19:07 (one year ago) link

i don't know if it's because Stone in Focus is so well-burned 'in' after all these years, but it doesn't seem to match up very well, as it doesn't 'reset' on same the bar / count, so as to lock in with the other track better.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 21 September 2018 19:21 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

really like the new EP, I don't see it as him imitating himself (wtf does that mean?) as approaching a sort of classicism of the kind of techno he makes. I'm not a gearhead, I couldn't pretend to fully understand his process but I hear the material being mostly gestated out of the "character" of the gear he uses (and kind of what he's always done). I don't even know what "innovation" would look like for afx because he's always just made the music he wanted to hear himself.

clouds, Sunday, 7 October 2018 15:20 (eleven months ago) link

but what if the music he wants to make for himself is boring

the late great, Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:42 (eleven months ago) link

It kinda sounds like two disparate tracks playing simultaneously..

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n),

It is! Just two records hanging out on the decks

saer, Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:49 (eleven months ago) link

but what if the music he wants to make for himself is boring

― the late great, Sunday, October 7, 2018 1:42 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

holy shit man do you have an axe to grind. boring to you maybe lol

montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 16:59 (eleven months ago) link

boring to me for sure

the late great, Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:04 (eleven months ago) link

this is what we do on i love music, talk about music we don’t like

the late great, Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:05 (eleven months ago) link

yeah all good man, tbh i would rather listen to other records but i did like this one (and found most of the last haul of afx pretty dire)

montoya (Ross), Sunday, 7 October 2018 17:05 (eleven months ago) link

saw two different versions of the LP yesterday at the record store, one with the regular cover and one with a silver cover, "first edition" or something. I didn't buy it, did I fuck up? they were the same price iirc

flappy bird, Sunday, 7 October 2018 21:44 (eleven months ago) link

I have the silver cover. I prefer the regular cover.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 8 October 2018 17:10 (eleven months ago) link

ep's not the greatest, but track 3 slams...

afriendlypioneer, Monday, 8 October 2018 18:02 (eleven months ago) link

it's not boring to me; i find a lot to like about it. what isn't boring to you, by comparison?

clouds, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:29 (eleven months ago) link

It's good not great. It's far from a classic like, say, Windowlicker was as a single/EP, but the tracks are all quite memorable, save for the last one on the digital release.

It sounds like an evolution from Syro, but it's clear his days of wildly changing up his sounds on each track while still expressing his classic silliness and trollish personality are over and have been since 1998. It's not like he turned in utter trash like other artist comebacks (*cough* Pixies *cough*) but it's been 20 years now since he's released something that gave me the feels of nearly all his classics up to and including Windowlicker. Wish he'd developed his sound more over the years and kept using laptops. His move to go back to all analog gear pulled back the complexity of his sonic palette. And not for the better.

Drukqs is his New Jersey.

octobeard, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:53 (eleven months ago) link

^^good post/summary, IMO

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:55 (eleven months ago) link

20 years now

the Flow Coma remix was released in 2001

i too wish he'd go back to digital, release some sonically new and wild stuff etc. he's going the other way, endgame for him is making insanely detailed weird little Cornish jewelboxes with no right angles and absolute freedom of line

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 18:59 (eleven months ago) link

the most frustrating thing for me about recent afx is that he can do a track like XMAS on Syro, with those gorgeous pads that briefly enter and then fuck around for the rest of it..his music is challenging at times for me as a listener, not that it is inaccessible but that it feels like a constant give and take now. Mind you the new EP is great

searching for Kelilah (Ross), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 15:56 (eleven months ago) link

It seems like people who cherish 90s Aphex Twin will almost certainly be disappointed by anything he's released after Windowlicker? Hard to say. I had heard bits and pieces of SAW vol. 2, then came aboard with Drukqs (because of the disklavier tracks) ... it took me a while to warm to the more aggressive "drill n bass" stuff, but by the time The Tuss eps came around (2006?) I was fully on board, anticipating new releases, etc. Drukqs is certainly a high water mark, imo. The new ep is excellent.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:49 (eleven months ago) link

The Metz track (XMAS_EVET10) started circulating around 2010, a crappy audience recording, with room sounds (audience chatter, reverb etc.) - it sounds 'heavier' somehow. Those elements that corrupt the signal/recording sort of enhance the quality of the track. It's the same effect with Minipops--the original "Manchester track" started circulating on YouTube during the lat 00s, and it seemed to have more depth / dimensions to it. The album versions, while they're great, sound sterile in comparison. Syro is an inconsistent, "grab bag" of tracks. It's still mostly good to great, though

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 23:57 (eleven months ago) link

It is! Just two records hanging out on the decks

― saer
all i meant was that it didn't sound so successful as other blends / mixes / mash-ups that i've heard. like, it doesn't exceed the sum of its parts...but whatever floats your boat!

one of my fav mixes, this has some nice blends going on during the last quarter. it's a great mix all around

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 11 October 2018 02:20 (eleven months ago) link

y'all are listening on speakers and not headphones right?

crüt, Thursday, 11 October 2018 03:11 (eleven months ago) link

It seems like people who cherish 90s Aphex Twin will almost certainly be disappointed by anything he's released after Windowlicker? Hard to say. I had heard bits and pieces of SAW vol. 2, then came aboard with Drukqs (because of the disklavier tracks) ... it took me a while to warm to the more aggressive "drill n bass" stuff, but by the time The Tuss eps came around (2006?) I was fully on board, anticipating new releases, etc. Drukqs is certainly a high water mark, imo. The new ep is excellent.

― braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n)

Yeah but here's the thing - Hangable Autobulb, RDJ album, Girl/Boy EP, Come to Daddy and to a lesser extent, Windowlicker, are all drill'n'bass in their editing, production style, tempo and energy. Yet there's also other beat styles mixed in. The timbre of the instruments, especially the drums, varies widely. Experiments galore abound (Bouncing Bucephalis Ball, Hangable Auto Bulb, Peek 824545201). Melodies are either synths or classical instrumentation (something I realized I miss a lot from RDJ, pizzicatos and orchestral swells!). Remember when RDJ actually had vocals on a couple tracks? Go back and listen to the RDJ album.. it's mindblowing the variety of everything on those records. BPM,

But then Drukqs comes along and every song sounds like variations on two sonic palettes: Satie-like prepared piano vignettes and squelchy 303 acid lines layered on top of the same acoustic breakbeats. At the time, when it came out, I felt it was phoned in and disappointing. It was the first time an AFX album gave me that feeling since I had begun following him. While the editing and complexity of the compositions is staggering (as is the quantity) it felt like he had stopped "experimenting" and had fallen into a sonic groove. This is a groove he hasn't truly jumped out of. Only Computer Controlled Acoustic Instruments Pt. 2 and the aforementioned Flow Coma above have done anything to make me feel the old Aphex is still there. A few tracks on Syro are amazing, and the new EP is solid, but none of this is brilliant, never before heard insanity that his late 90's run of records produced.

Don't get me wrong, though - I'm super happy he's releasing music and I hold out hope he's got some next level shit still coming. SAW III could be aces. Maybe he'll return to laptop production, more sample focused compositions, and light the world up with a track that samples giraffe mating calls over drill'n'bass beats constructed from meticulously recorded sounds of bubbles popping - who knows. Maybe he'll record a track with vocals again?

octobeard, Thursday, 11 October 2018 07:46 (eleven months ago) link

Where's the "I would like some milk from the milkman's wife's tits" Aphex? Where's the Flim Aphex? Where's the "dirty little boy" Aphex? That's the Richard I miss.

octobeard, Thursday, 11 October 2018 07:51 (eleven months ago) link

little lord faulteroy mix is my favorite RDJ track and it's not even close

flappy bird, Thursday, 11 October 2018 16:44 (eleven months ago) link

tuss is great tho, it still has awesome melodies, classic afx imo

Ross, Thursday, 11 October 2018 21:38 (eleven months ago) link

I felt exactly the same as you about drukqs but I listened to it with a fresh set of ears a couple years back and suddenly thought it was amazing.

frogbs, Thursday, 11 October 2018 21:52 (eleven months ago) link

If you don't think Fredugolon 6 (from Confederation Trough) has a sense of humor / overt playfulness then I don't know what else to say. The dude is like 45, and it sounds like he's having a ball.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 11 October 2018 21:52 (eleven months ago) link

That Tuss track may be "playful," but it's sure dull

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Thursday, 11 October 2018 21:59 (eleven months ago) link

whatever, man. one person's dull is another's "banger". Fredugolon 6 is all-time

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 11 October 2018 22:24 (eleven months ago) link

I thought I would have become tired of "Collapse" (track 1), but it's sounds great every time. Can't complain about the last string of eps (Cheetah, ODJS, Collapse) -- both Cheetah and Collapse are *really* consistent.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Thursday, 11 October 2018 22:27 (eleven months ago) link

FWIW, I just revisited "Drukqs" and did enjoy the "drill'n'bass"-style tracks more than I remember enjoying them back in the day.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Thursday, 11 October 2018 23:44 (eleven months ago) link

I don't like the super crazy stuff, I live for the 90s ambient tech / downtempo stuff. extremely wonderful and eternal.

brimstead, Thursday, 11 October 2018 23:54 (eleven months ago) link

cheetah ep was the closest thing he's done to that in recent years imo

clouds, Friday, 12 October 2018 18:20 (eleven months ago) link

cheetah ep was the closest thing he's done to that in recent years imo

Agreed. Cheetah e.p. is the best of this 'current era' (it's never clear how old the stuff he's been releasing actually is ... )

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Friday, 12 October 2018 18:50 (eleven months ago) link

CLUD

El Tomboto, Friday, 12 October 2018 18:59 (eleven months ago) link

agree with octobeard upthread but then I've been saying exactly this for quite some time now

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 12 October 2018 19:04 (eleven months ago) link

"squelchy 303 acid lines layered on top of the same acoustic breakbeats"

― octobeard


This is a terrific generalisation / reduction of the sheer variety of timbres served up (i.e. the dense excess and plasticity of Ziggomatic 17), the use of negative space on "Vordhosbn", the gradual ascension and subsequent dismantling of "Omgyjya Switch 7" -- as well as other highlights, like "54 Cymru Beats", "Meltphace 6" and "Taking Control" ... saying that he used the "same acoustic breakbeats" is a lame dismissal. The percussive timbres (on Drukqs) sound like they're from a variety of sources; many synthesized / electronic-sounding, some acoustic, or electronic sounds amplified and recorded.. and yeah, there are sampled breaks. It doesn't sound like anyone else.

I kept reading the same arguments levied against Drukqs - that the much of the material was received as, or sounded like "leftovers" from previous RDJ experiments... and it just comes off as a lazy interpretation of the material. Maybe people were disappointed, but those tracks sound like further refinements, or a natural progression from ideas presented on the RDJ album, et al.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 12 October 2018 22:26 (eleven months ago) link

much of the material was received as, or sounded like "leftovers" from previous RDJ experiments

I mean, it was sort of presented that way, wasn't it?

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Friday, 12 October 2018 22:43 (eleven months ago) link

Uh no?

brimstead, Saturday, 13 October 2018 04:40 (eleven months ago) link

Ok true, not “leftovers,” but — “Here’s a bunch of random stuff I was working on, and I’m releasing it in a glut because a left an MP3 player on a plane and I want to beat the pirates.” Expectations were set low, which was appropriate (IMO) b/c the beat-driven tracks aren’t nearly as good as what we had come to expect from him.

I revisited Come to Daddy and Windowlicker today (after revisiting Druqks y’day), and the difference is night & day.

brush ’em like crazy (morrisp), Saturday, 13 October 2018 05:49 (eleven months ago) link

i dislike the sugar-sweet eno/roedelius go breakdancing stuff, the lullaby melodies & the pizzicato strings (90s bedroom composers paying homage to glass/reich always came off embarrassingly murray gold / george fenton to me)
so drukqs onwards burbling fusionisms & syro's tangential forward progressions i find far preferable to the ABABcAB structures that seemingly melted the minds of jeff mills acolytes back whenever

massaman gai, Saturday, 13 October 2018 06:15 (eleven months ago) link

vordhosbn is an incredible track on drukQs and mt st michaels is one of his best most intricate/melodic tracks ever IMO

i always loved that rumour that madonna was braying like a pig on that one track that sounds like being in a gymnasium from hell

Ross, Monday, 15 October 2018 18:31 (eleven months ago) link

one month passes...

I thought Collapse was good on release, it has grown on me since then.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 21 November 2018 00:21 (ten months ago) link

RETAIL OPPORTUNITY. PARTLY TRANSFER WEALTH FROM 24 NOVEMBER.https://t.co/MQ6R56NOPU pic.twitter.com/OyGgg2nSgv

— Aphex Twin (@AphexTwin) November 22, 2018

groovypanda, Thursday, 22 November 2018 15:05 (nine months ago) link

I live in California so the mask in a convenient little case is appealing for next year's fire season.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 22 November 2018 19:03 (nine months ago) link

I remember pretending to like Aphex Twin when I was younger, because it was the hip thing to do, and actually genuinely liking individual tracks, but feeling that his run of classic albums was too inconsistent to love. SAW Volume One has two great songs at the start but the rest of it sounds half-baked. The Come to Daddy EP is consistently-good-from-start-to-finish but the actual albums are a mixed bag.

After broadening my tastes a bit I concluded that Squarepusher was a more accomplished musician, Autechre were sonically more inventive, Venetian Snares were more extreme etc. Part of the Aphex Twin's legend is that he achieved maximal results early in his career with terrible equipment - a DJ mixer, a four-track, a reverb unit, the cheapest Yamaha SY etc - but by the late 1990s he had the same resources as everybody else. On the other hand the "legend" wasn't his fault. He went out of his way to avoid publicity, so I never disliked him on a personal level.

But after listening to SAW Volume Two a couple of times I've concluded he really is or was a genius. That album is diverse and consistently interesting. It has an emotional dimension that a lot of glitchy late-1990s/early-2000s Warp / Rephlex music lacks. Autechre et al most went for sublime sheer sonic power but Aphex Twin's best music has a melancholic quality. I always wondered what he'd be like as an old man.

Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:21 (nine months ago) link

rest of that early warp stuff sounds dated, afx stands up better than any squarepusher or autechre records of the time.

meaulnes, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:27 (nine months ago) link

you know i always wondered, if you listen to something and it doesn't sound dated to you, but it sounds dated to other people, does that mean you're dated? or exceptionally fresh, and ahead of the revival curve?

the late great, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:36 (nine months ago) link

needs an Einsteinian thought experiment

Bound 4 da Remoan (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:38 (nine months ago) link

Squarepusher definitely feels dated; even Hard Normal Daddy which I'd once thought of as a timeless classic sounds very mired in 90s sound design which hasn't held up so well. Autechre less so, depending on what you're talking about exactly - Incunabula still sounds quite good to my ears though it's obviously easy to place when that record was made

and I do agree that Aphex's most unique/successful trait was his ability to pull together something brilliant out of very little - he's one of the most shining examples of the "restrictions breed creativity" creed. I think that's sort of the "magic" ingredient a lot of people hint at when they talk about how early Aphex was just that much better - he used a lot of gimmicky concepts to limit himself and wound out spinning gold out of them. even though the stuff on ICBYD and the RDJ Album was aped all over the place I don't think anyone really could replicate what he did there. I don't know how many people have the patience or aptitude to create a banging track out of a pencil and a Coke can. conversely maybe that's why his latest stuff is all kinda samey...he's opened up his sound a lot more and all that really occurs for him to do is this super-technical acid funk.

frogbs, Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:47 (nine months ago) link

^Nice post

plant a twee or die (morrisp), Wednesday, 28 November 2018 20:54 (nine months ago) link

so weird, 'popcorn' is gone already and 'avril altdelay' says it was uploaded three years ago when you go to the soundcloud page itself

sleeve, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:13 (nine months ago) link

anyway the other version of 'avril 14th' is still available for DL

https://soundcloud.com/user18081971

sleeve, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:14 (nine months ago) link

these are all on Discogs now, even

https://www.discogs.com/artist/4399640-user18081971

sleeve, Wednesday, 12 December 2018 01:17 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

RDJ playing NY in April but tix are $85 LOLOLOL

calstars, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 20:30 (eight months ago) link

and presale tix sold out instantly

dan selzer, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 20:33 (eight months ago) link

Brooklyn vegan has another one tomorrow morning I think?

calstars, Wednesday, 16 January 2019 21:21 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOIOJ4E1Jz8

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:55 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Je9LNz7Hv4

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 13 April 2019 02:55 (five months ago) link

Cool. When I saw him years ago he was just chilling on a loveseat with a laptop while people in bear costumes doofed around.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:07 (five months ago) link

I saw him in 2001 or so and it was pretty slammin’

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:29 (five months ago) link

This is a pretty sick set

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:46 (five months ago) link

it really is

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Saturday, 13 April 2019 03:47 (five months ago) link

90s Aphex Twin >>>>>>>> 10s Aphex Twin. You had to be there, I guess

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 15 April 2019 05:43 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj9URI2aKgM

the best bang for the buck out of recent sets imo

lukas, Saturday, 20 April 2019 11:54 (five months ago) link

First 17 minutes or so of this Coachella audience recording is ace - I prefer less-frantic Aphex

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WCBVDjFu3RBUoNQX8KhDWp6s7RdJE3LK

equaliser, Sunday, 21 April 2019 11:03 (five months ago) link

The first 2/3 or so of Mexico does get intense, but in a really interesting way I think. It's not just more aggro drill n bass.

lukas, Sunday, 21 April 2019 14:37 (five months ago) link

I went to the Brooklyn show. It ruled.

Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 21 April 2019 16:06 (five months ago) link

When I got into Aphex Twin late, well into the new millennium, I just torrented RDJ’s entire discography at once, so I did not get the same sense of chronology, of RDJ’s gradual artistic development as people following him at the time in the 1990s did. Now, going through Aphex Twin coverage on Wikipedia, it is interesting to see that Polygon Window’s <i>Surfing on Sine Waves</i> came out only a couple of months after <i>Selected Ambient Works 85–92</i>. In fact, the vast majority of listeners would have got a chance to hear Polygon Window before they ever got to hear <i>Selected Ambient Works 85–92</i>.

Why then does <i>Selected Ambient Works 85–92</i> still have a reputation as sort of the album that started it all? Did <i>Surfing on Sine Waves</i> go particularly unnoticed at the time?

Melomane, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 00:11 (four months ago) link

classic

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 00:28 (four months ago) link

interesting posts about aphex twin here... lovin it

cheese canopy (map), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 00:29 (four months ago) link

seriously, donkey rhubarb remix

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 02:17 (four months ago) link

It isn't as good

kraudive, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 08:40 (four months ago) link

Why then does <i>Selected Ambient Works 85–92</i> still have a reputation as sort of the album that started it all? Did <i>Surfing on Sine Waves</i> go particularly unnoticed at the time?

well, like you said, it came out first, it was Aphex's "debut" (and not released under an alias), and it's a better/more significant record

frogbs, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:26 (four months ago) link

Sine Waves was the first one I bought because it was in the shops, iirc SAW was import only?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 15:29 (four months ago) link

Back in the early 90s many electronic music producers had multiple aliases, and before internet became widespread they were more anonymous than you can imagine today, especially if you didn't read magazines like Mixmag. So it's perfectly possible a lot of people didn't even know Polygon Window was the same dude as Aphex Twin; I certainly didn't make the connection until a few years later.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 16:10 (four months ago) link

Continuing my anecdote in a way, I remember thinking at the time how strange it was that I was buying the "side project" rather than the real thing, as if there was a distinction beyond the alias.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 16:25 (four months ago) link

Also I think the market for incredibly lush club ambient is a little larger than the market for techno.

There also wasn't as much downtempo back then. People were listening to simplistic Ninja Tune stuff - just a drum loop, a vocal sample and some flute - because there were no other options.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:27 (four months ago) link

You think? It's not like it stretches back years before SAW, but there was stuff by the Orb and Orbital, plus proto Warp stuff, right? And KLF and ambient house stuff, right?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:34 (four months ago) link

Yeah, Selected Ambient Works definitely fit into the whole ambient house/chill out boom that was hip in 1992. Whereas techno wasn't really an album-oriented genre (yet).

There also wasn't as much downtempo back then. People were listening to simplistic Ninja Tune stuff - just a drum loop, a vocal sample and some flute - because there were no other options.
I can't don't remember this kind of Ninja Tune/Nightmares on Wax kind of downtempo being much of a thing in the early nineties? IIRC it only became prominent in the middle of the decade. In 1992 chill out was mostly hippie synth swooshes and dub basslines and nature documentary samples, not breaks and jazz loops.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:42 (four months ago) link

yeah, the entire phenomenon of the "chill-out room" had been going for actual years, and the Orb's ambient phase started in 1989

Ninja Tune's Brakes series were meant to be sample / DJ tools, not really intended for home listening. though obv once you've bought a CD in 1992 you're going to goddamn listen to it over and over to get your money's worth.

SAW 1 was only released in Belgium and Japan until the turn of the century. SAW II came out in the UK, US, Australia etc.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:45 (four months ago) link

SAW 1 was only released in Belgium and Japan until the turn of the century.
Huh? Apollo/R&S is a Belgian label, but certainly their releases were available all around Europe? At least they (including SAW 1) were here in Finland.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:50 (four months ago) link

Even some of the stuff on Flexistentialism is super tracky. Yes, that was after 92, but I think SAW I had a very functional role throughout the 90s after the party. Home listening pounding techno not so much.

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 18:54 (four months ago) link

xp Yep SAW1 was also easily available in the UK at the time of its original release.

Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 20:33 (four months ago) link

to me 85-92 has a mid-fi roughness that’s absent from most “ambient” stuff of that era. and the use of reverb is exquisite.

brimstead, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:35 (four months ago) link

R&S had great distribution! Surfing On Sine Waves got an actual US release on a label in Josh’s city, which is the difference he was ruminating on

blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 21:59 (four months ago) link

On/via ... TVT?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 22:54 (four months ago) link

Wax Trax via TVT

blokes you can't rust (sic), Tuesday, 23 April 2019 23:03 (four months ago) link

Surfing on Sine Waves says very clearly right on the label that it is the work of Richard D. James so there was no mystery about the source at the time.

everything, Tuesday, 23 April 2019 23:44 (four months ago) link

yes but people who've heard or read something about this "Aphex Twin" making noise from some place in the Englands, without digging deeply into his backstory or buying import 12"s or listening to late-night college radio with informed nerdlord DJs, would not necessarily see a record by "Polygon Window" in their record shop, then pick it up, slide one of the inner sleeves out, put the gatefold back in the rack, carefully remove the record from the inner sleeve, read that the contents were programmed by "richard d james," and ruminate to themselves "Ah! Perhaps this James has issued other records beneath further pseudonyms. As his publishing is unassigned, my best bet for finding out whether he has credits under other names is to use a mechanical pencil to write an aerogramme to the PRS, whose London address I happen to know off by heart."

And then wait months for a reply, and in the meantime say to themselves ".....OH!. Dick James. It's a joke name, referencing the Beatles' publisher of Northern Songs fame. Those wacky English techno japesters, how foolish of me."

Honestly? Probably no more than 30% of Americans browsing in record shops did this at the time, and their local emporia might have been sold out of the Xylem Tube EP 12" by the time they did get an answer.

blokes you can't rust (sic), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 00:58 (four months ago) link

Surfing on Sine Waves was stickered saying it was Aphex Twin.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 03:05 (four months ago) link

I feel like more time passed than is apparent. At least from the states perspective....the timeframe between the release of SAW and it's press/hype, and the eventual us wax trax/tvt release of Surfing felt like a different era to me.

dan selzer, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 03:14 (four months ago) link

Surfing on Sine Waves was stickered saying it was Aphex Twin

in the US, too? (Dan?)

(it's a moot point re this thread bcz Josh knew anyway, I'm just curious)

blokes you can't rust (sic), Wednesday, 24 April 2019 09:10 (four months ago) link

It's been a looooong time, but while I *knew* that Polygon Window was Aphex Twin, I really don't remember it stickered as such. I just thought it was a side project of sorts, and tried to determine how it was different from the "real" thing. I did know about Aphex Twin beforehand, but I'm not sure what I'd heard of his, if anything, so I must have based my purchase on a review I read somewhere (The Wire?). I'm not sure when I first saw SAW in the shops here, but I know I didn't feel like paying $30 or whatever for it on CD. I don't think I heard SAW until after the release of SAWII, but again, it's been a looooooong time.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 11:59 (four months ago) link

I don't know if the US version was stickered. The album was very heavily promoted and written about here in the UK and "Quoth" had already been a very big club hit. Not sure The Wire would have covered it though - i can't recall if they had quite got to this kind of thing yet by that point.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 12:32 (four months ago) link

also, the track "polygon window" was on warp's artificial intelligence compilation which had been a big deal.

visiting, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 14:52 (four months ago) link

As memory serves this stuff was coming out fast and furious as soon as labels like TVT started distributing. There was like a backlog that kept hitting the shelves. At the school paper I remember being excited every time something from TBT arrived, even though it was often forgettable stuff like Rise Robots Rise iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:08 (four months ago) link

TVT, whoops.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:33 (four months ago) link

My memory is that SAW and SAWII received a wider critical reception, had better distribution and had generally remained widely available. Surfing On Sine Waves, stop me if I'm wrong, actually went out of circulation at some point, and while not rare exactly, was a bit trickier to find... the early AFX and Caustic Window records were somewhat similar in that respect. I don't remember people not realising that it was all being produced by Richard James at the time, at least in my circle of DJ friends.

MikoMcha, Wednesday, 24 April 2019 15:42 (four months ago) link

“It’s these people called Aphex Twins” 😭 pic.twitter.com/G6aygIiaFL

— arj (@shempiii) April 27, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 27 April 2019 19:04 (four months ago) link

Great retrospective SAWII review by Sherburne: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/aphex-twin-selected-ambient-works-volume-ii/

blokes you can't rust (sic), Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:27 (four months ago) link

It was a great piece, provides lots of context.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 May 2019 21:40 (four months ago) link

trying not to take the bait on that rating

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Sunday, 5 May 2019 22:20 (four months ago) link

what sort of maniac reads a numerical rating on a record review

blokes you can't rust (sic), Sunday, 5 May 2019 23:08 (four months ago) link

Good piece. (I think the album deserves a 10, if any album does...)

get your hand outta my pocket universe (morrisp), Monday, 6 May 2019 00:22 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

in the unlikely event anyone wants Collapse but doesn’t have it, send me a webmail and i’ll send you a download code

but everybody calls me, (lukas), Monday, 15 July 2019 22:00 (two months ago) link


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