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which artists do you insist make progress from one work to another? all of them? any of them? also define 'progress' (verb or noun) in an artistic sense, and give examples of bands you think have done so. is music a giant football field that artists are trying to gain yards on? please talk about drukqs as well, i adore it.

― ethan, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Wilco. Jeff Tweedy's songwriting is so good that I want him to make it work in every conceivable genre. He's trying. Compare No Depression to Yankee Hotel Foxtrot... pretty remarkable.

― Yancey, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i haven't heard the new one but summerteeth is one of my favorite pop- rock albums ever (that i don't even own heh) and doesn't deserve to be slandered as alt-country but i would hardly call it progressive!

― ethan, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I just wanted to say that I LOVE VESPERTINE AND CONSIDER IT BJORK'S BEST ACHIEVEMENT TO DATE before mel sees this thread.

― matthew m., Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

King Crimson? They progressed from Talkin Heads-lite to unlistenable Avant-Rock.

― john-paul, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Low, Flaming Lips, and Mercury Rev all seem to be getting better with each new album.

― A Nairn, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I've always felt that every new Depeche album is the best they've ever done, though I am not believed in some corners. ;-) The Walkabouts pretty much can't do any wrong at this point -- they're not where they were when they started and they've covered so much along the way.

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Well, obviously "21st Century Schizoid Man" is a watered-down version of "Psycho Killer," as performed by a band which would emerge ten years later. Duh.

― matthew m., Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

none of you are answering any of my questions but i just want to say NED YOU ARE INSANE.

― ethan, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Jandek. Even if he did actually record his entire oeuvre in a single 36-hour period. Definite "progress" there. Just incremental progress.

We used to get his records at my old radio station every eight months or so, and somebody would always note "He's making real progress on this one!"

― Douglas, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

But I revel in it!

― Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Speaking of Jandek, I've been thinking of doing bootleg remixes of his stuff.. I haven't decided whether or not to couple it with Mogwai or Whitehouse..

― electric sound of jim, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i think flaming lips and mercury rev are turing into eachother with every album.

― chaki, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

I think Low is sounding more Christian with each album.

― Curt, Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

talking about summerteeth, i think its a HUGE progression as far as songwriting goes. If you look at Being There, its a solid alt- country album. Summerteeth delved into Beach Boy harmonies and more instrumentation. Yahnkee Hotel Foxtrot takes leaps and bounds from Summerteeth lyrically(how can that be? summer teeth had great lyrics!) and musically as well. I am in love with Wilco.

― Brock K., Monday, 11 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Usher. 8701 is lightyears ahead of any of his other stuff (at least what I've heard). Ludacris. Cave In.

― adam, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Progress is just a movement beyond an artists' previous work; changes made while conscious of past product? So progress can be good or bad. In fact, I think if a musical career lasts long enough, "bad progress" is almost inevitable, in that there's almost nowhere left to go (while retaining identity).

― Dan Irons, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ethan, I think artists who stake their reputation on being ahead of the pack necessarily cop some criticism when they start to fall behind. Part of the actual enjoyment of Aphex Twin's work has been the sense in which when his records come out they sound like nothing else around. Of course I still love Selected Ambient Works 85-92, indeed probably the most of all his albums, but I nonetheless consider people criticising Drukqs for not doing anything new to be legitimate in doing so. NB: I have not heard Drukqs, so I can only assume the consensus is well-founded.

Of course with IDM it's a bit distorted because when Aphex Twin started he was competing with maybe ten others, and now he's competing with hundreds, thousands of bedroom tinkerers, so the possibility of recognisable innovation shrinks dramatically.

In comparison people aren't likely to criticise Bob Dylan for not pushing boundaries (although I get the impression that Love & Theft evidences *personal* artistic progression) because the critical model that surrounds evaluation of Dylan - and traditional songwriting generally - usually adheres to a fall-from- paradise model rather than a race-to-the-finish-line model.

― Tim, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Well what you/I call progress, others will call more of the same. It all depends on how you look at it. How willing are you to accept change? Personally I am easily let down. Which means I am not a completic. I usually give up after a few records. (Ned, you're NOT gonna say you like the last record???? It is a bit wishy washy to say the least. Or maybe the American version is uh.. different? hah!)

Progress also implies they are moving towards a goal, right? Positive change? This is of course subjective (to the listener).

― nathalie, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Completic? Completist who can schpell roit.

― Nathalie, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

MATT, YOU ARE WRONG. VESPERTINE IS BJÖRK'S WORST WORK TO DATE. And Ethan, you know how I feel about Drukqs. Blegh.

― Melissa W, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

In fairness, like them or hate them, I'm somewhere in between, Radiohead have made massive progress. Every rock band talked about "going electronic" but none of them had the balls to do it, I mean this happened all through the 90s.

― Ronan, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Dylan is an interesting example Tim because he very much helped to define the artists-must-progress paradigm (acoustic Dylan to electric Dylan to sneering superstar Dylan) and his career and reputation got fucked up thanks to the expectation that he'd keep making revelatory records. The records he did actually make are the sweetest and most un-Dylanish of his career

- and hey, maybe Drukqs makes more sense if you try and put it into a Dylan template! It's Aphex's New Morning or Self-Portrait - sprawling but also cosy, perverse and domestic at the same time (all those gentle interludes, the phone call from his parents, the general resting-on-laurels-having-fun ambience that pisses progressive Aphex fans off...). I like it, anyway.

― Tom, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Answer to ethan's first qn: all the ones I really care about (and there aren't many of those). At same time, however, there is also the fear that the "new direction" will be something I hate. Example: Stereolab. I see their career as one big progression and so far, they haven't let me down. But I know plenty of former fans who bailed circa Dots and Loops because they were no longer getting what they wanted from the groop. (Contrarily: people who have never much liked them think they have been ploughing the same, dusty furrow their whole career. But those people are mentalists obv.) Point is, progression is always in the beholder's eye, and that perception is at least partly down to the degree of your initial involvement.

As for Drukqs, what I like about it is the sequencing of the record. It's the one album of 2001 (and I use that term instead of my customary 'LP' deliberately) that only makes sense if you play it all the way through in the prescribed order. Not that I've had the inclination to do that very often! We probably won't know unless and until RDJ deigns to release any of his more recent noodlings if this is just a self-indulgent nod to the influence of 'classical' composers (Delius, Stockhausen, etc.) and drum and bass, or if it's the direction he really wants to go in now. Personally, while I'll always be hoping he can repeat the Windowlicker trick, I'd be equally happy with more stuff along the lines of Gwarek2.

― Jeff W, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

yeah i'm into drukqs but dont see the need for the second disc. kniow why that is? cos i havent listened to it basically. but the first one is well good. i fucking love the 7th track on the 1st cd, but its on 2.30 long! fuck that, its so lush!

oh well. that always happens to me. AND it bloody fades out, so is pretty hard to mix with.

― ambrose, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i wonder if druckqs will be one of those albums that gradually gets the kudos and props that weren't there initially, until, one day, it is described as a classic (probably around the time of the next release, when people will say "man this, shit is just druckqs redux, now that was a cool lp"???

me? well, thanks for asking, i'm flattered. i thought it was, mm, ok, on release, but i've warmed to it gradually. i like it, theres a lot of it, you know, it probably takes a while to navigate your path (not discubumerate ya technique okay???). so, yeh, i'm lost now, sorry bout that. look, i'm just trying to say its a Geogaddi cousin, thats all

― gareth, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Ned, you're NOT gonna say you like the last record????

Not this again. ;-) Both Dan and I think it is very wonderful, thank you. Yay us!

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Yeah, drukqs is great! Not enough progress? Baloney. Just one example: the prepared-piano tracks are more of a departure than most artists attempt on a new album.

― o. nate, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

Drukqs is overlong, no doubt, but I do think there's a pretty fair amount of progression in it. Basically, he doesn't let beats speed off into space like on Richard D. James, sort of forcing himself to wrap all those warp-speed breaks back into the rhythm.

― Andy, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

"I think if a musical career lasts long enough, "bad progress" is almost inevitable" ---- What about David Bowie, super long career with all good progress.

― A Nairn, Tuesday, 12 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

i really wish Mogwai would progress from being one of those bands with skips full of potential to a band capable of greatness.

and, no, they do not nessecitate the same thing.

― Wyndham Earl, Wednesday, 13 March 2002 01:00 (11 years ago) Permalink

4 years pass...

I still love drukqs too.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

i've obviously jumped on the ilm bandwagon about 4 years late. wilco used to be revered here!

and yeah, i like drukqs too

was actually my favourite until i was told i should be liking the 'ambient' stuff more.

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:30 (6 years ago) Permalink

Me too, I love it.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:49 (6 years ago) Permalink

Drukqs is kinda shitty.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:55 (6 years ago) Permalink

And you should be liking the "ambient" shit more.

― jimn (jimnaseum), Thursday, 8 February 2007 17:56 (6 years ago) Permalink

It suffered from not having a coherent direction. I did dig the piano jams tho, the other stuff not so much...

― Disco Nihilist (mjt), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:17 (6 years ago) Permalink

I wonder if people's reaction to Drukqs depends on how much of an Aphex fanboy they were when they first heard it? i.e. those who were waiting with bated breath were more likely to be disappointed.

For me, it's got plenty of good things but it's the least interesting of the "proper" studio albums, no doubt.

― It's Tough to Beat Illious (noodle vague), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:23 (6 years ago) Permalink

I started liking it after some review pointed out that there is something coherent in there, piano things, typically followed by more typical Aphex things (or at least stuff a bit like RDJ), followed by thing that sound a bit like Japanese temple sort of stuff, like Nanou 2, for example. This isn't exact, but it did make me like it more, for whatever reason.

I pretty much thought it was shite when it came out.

― KeefW (kmw), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:33 (6 years ago) Permalink

It's pretty exact! Noisy beats followed by short prepared piano piece and repeat. It works for me.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 8 February 2007 18:42 (6 years ago) Permalink

yeah this cd is good it goes in headphone rotation probly every 3-4 months for the past 5 years

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:11 (6 years ago) Permalink

i havent heard summer teeth since i was in h.s. but it soundtracked alot of good times with friends, im sure its still pretty good

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:15 (6 years ago) Permalink

luff dis album (drukqs). prefer the tonality of the prprd. disklavier pieces to the prepared piano pieces of cage.

― held tony (held tony), Thursday, 8 February 2007 19:59 (6 years ago) Permalink

there is a good cohesion in the sequence of tracks, but unsure that it's not just a result of being familiar w/the album. it has a natural flow

― held tony (held tony), Thursday, 8 February 2007 20:03 (6 years ago) Permalink

I actually just put the ambient/treated piano tracks on my ipod when I ripped it. To me that's a fantastic album and the one he should have really released. If it'd been like some of the Analord stuff I'd have had more patience but it would've still added little to what would've been a very coherent album for him.

― Treblekicker (treblekicker), Thursday, 8 February 2007 21:19 (6 years ago) Permalink

"I wonder if people's reaction to Drukqs depends on how much of an Aphex fanboy they were when they first heard it? i.e. those who were waiting with bated breath were more likely to be disappointed."

I got into Aphex Twin way late and sorta heard everything all at once. Drukqs struck me as the best. It's still my favorite.

― Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 8 February 2007 22:46 (6 years ago) Permalink

i find drukqs to be his most listenable album.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Thursday, 8 February 2007 23:38 (6 years ago) Permalink

hey yeah i never got all the drukqs hate when it came out. i thought there was a lot more going on in/with the drill tracks on drukqs than on richard d. james, and the prepared stuff is fantastic. i'm kinda meh on aphex in general though--love 'i care because you do,' squelchy early stuff, SAW 85-92, don't care for SAWII or richard d. james. i might pull out drukqs right now; it's probably been five years since i've heard it.

― plan b: videodrome (fauxhemian), Friday, 9 February 2007 00:00 (6 years ago) Permalink

i think drukqs suffered from a critical short-circuit

― friday on the porch (lfam), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:10 (6 years ago) Permalink

Drukqs is every bit as unlistenable as Metal Machine Music.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:16 (6 years ago) Permalink

Have you heard the entire album?

― Zachary S (Zach S), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:24 (6 years ago) Permalink

and the race to post on the wit & wisdom thread begins

― and what (ooo), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

Well, besides the piano bits of course. Those are lovely.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:50 (6 years ago) Permalink

I was a fanboy from 92 and I thought the quality of releases had been going down for a while when it came out. It has some good bits, particularly the piano stuff which is still great and some of the drill stuff was actually pretty good.

but... the drill stuff was already getting kinda old when this came out and he was looking to end his relationship with warp. I found the analord stuff actually pretty good and at least had a bit of a new direction.

― hector (hector), Friday, 9 February 2007 03:57 (6 years ago) Permalink

i like metal machine music.

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Friday, 9 February 2007 04:25 (6 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

I keep replaying "Avril 14." Is the rest of the album this good?

― Tape Store, Sunday, 21 October 2007 19:11 (5 years ago) Permalink

i finally picked this up a couple weeks ago. it's a bit of an inconsistent album, but i think there's some great stuff on it. i've not yet really digested disc 2 (which seems a little spottier) but disc 1 is excellent.

it kind of got trashed, it seems, when it was first released, but i'm quite happy i finally picked it up. it's a lot better than some of those early reviews made it out to be.

― Mark Clemente, Sunday, 21 October 2007 19:44 (5 years ago) Permalink

Tape Store, it's his most complete album, however it was let down by the fact it came out about 4 years too late. Rather than a huge stylistic leap, it's a sprawling double album that concentrates on refining what he had been doing since 1996, so to seasoned fans who expected another wacky twist in the ongoing Aphex saga, they were to be disappointed. It has an awful lot of material, some of it excellent and a lot of it, well, awful. But that was always the idea with Aphex I suppose. It was never about being polished and more about the fun ideas. Throw it at a wall and see if it sticks, and if it doesn't chuck it in the pot anyway.

― the next grozart, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:09 (5 years ago) Permalink

"54 Cymru Beats" is one of his all-time best.

― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:38 (5 years ago) Permalink

The stretch between "vordhosbn" and "Afx237 V7" is great, but after that I usually turn it off or skip 7 tracks

― robertwolf8080, Sunday, 21 October 2007 20:50 (5 years ago) Permalink

You can makea a dinky 60 minute cut by ripping out all the whoops-I-left-the-tape-running moments.

― Autumn Almanac, Monday, 22 October 2007 05:51 (5 years ago) Permalink

grozart's response intrigues me; I'm going to buy this.

― Tape Store, Monday, 22 October 2007 06:32 (5 years ago) Permalink

9 months pass...

"Avril 14th" is like the best soundtrack piece Jon Brion never wrote.

― jaymc, Sunday, 10 August 2008 21:51 (4 years ago) Permalink

i love drukqs

― Creeztophair, Sunday, 10 August 2008 22:03 (4 years ago) Permalink

1 year passes...

― gareth, Monday, March 11, 2002 8:00 PM

― am0n, Saturday, 5 September 2009 23:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

miss gareth :(

― ian, Sunday, 6 September 2009 04:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

Hmm, I just noticed that my copy of "Druckqs" has a parental advisory sticker on it. What am I missing?

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 September 2009 15:45 (3 years ago) Permalink

It has a song called "Cock", no other reason really.

― Neotropical pygmy squirrel, Sunday, 6 September 2009 15:48 (3 years ago) Permalink

Which I guess makes Richard James the only other act besides Frank Zappa (at least that I can think of) to get a parental advisory notice stuck on an instrumental release.

― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:03 (3 years ago) Permalink

There's a swear on one of the tracks I think?

― Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:07 (3 years ago) Permalink

yeah 'Cock/Ver10' has the word "cunt" on it

― braveclub, Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:09 (3 years ago) Permalink

Yeah. All I could hear in my head was the Squarepusher track with "I'm the fucking daddy" on it.

― Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:10 (3 years ago) Permalink

Jeez I bought my copy from Warp and I actually have a sticker somewhere that says "Come On You Cunt Let's Have Some Aphex Acid"

― Relatin' Jews to Jazz (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 6 September 2009 16:16 (3 years ago) Permalink

8 months pass...

I have just bought this album again, and am about to listen to it for only the second time in 10 years.

It's just become such a "thing," my fear of this album. I think I'm such a different person and have such different tastes in music and different expectations that it will be interesting for me to see how my reactions to it have changed.

― The Curve Of Binding Energy (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 20 May 2010 10:04 (3 years ago) Permalink

how can you even remember your reaction to an album (a double disc album no less) that you heard once over 10 years ago?

I always wrote this album off due to hearing a lot of bad reviews (ok, just from allmusic, but in my teen years AMG was biblical to me), I'm kind of curious about it now.

― Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Friday, 21 May 2010 00:44 (3 years ago) Permalink

i remember my reaction and that was that it was good, but nothing new - and "something new" was what i'd come to expect of aphex, and therefore druqks was a bit of a failure. i've dug this out recently and it's a real re-assessor. Ziggomatic is a good fun tune peeps.

― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 21 May 2010 00:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

i was disappointed by this when it came out for the same reason. i've since come to see it as the last word in "drill n bass" shit or whatever, with a pretty brilliant mix of other material thrown in. doesn't always work though, and admittedly i most often listen to a single-disc redux of favorites i made if i put it on these days...

― Billy Crystals (another al3x), Friday, 21 May 2010 02:41 (3 years ago) Permalink

i love this album and i really can't wait to see what he comes up with next

― ma/y/aoi (Future_Perfect), Friday, 21 May 2010 03:19 (3 years ago) Permalink

i didn't really get into chosen lords or much of the analord stuff but bwoon dub off analord02 is very nice

― ma/y/aoi (Future_Perfect), Friday, 21 May 2010 03:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

I also liked Drukqs a lot more than critics did, but admittedly could've done without the multiple straight-piano songs.

― kelpolaris, Friday, 21 May 2010 03:20 (3 years ago) Permalink

Because it was SOOO hyped before hand (and Aphex phanboys are a whole WORLD of obsessiveness if you've never encountered them) and then the critical reaction was a bit "hrrrmmm" and because it was just such an EVENT that Mr. D.James could put out an album that was viewed as less than stellar. It was also the early days of the Blogosphere and I guess EVENT records that send shockwaves across the Blogosphere are a dime a dozen now and therefore not such an event, but at the time it seemed to take up a lot more space, culturally, than it might otherwise. I guess I just heard so many Aphex phanboys who were outraged that it coloured the experience for me and I approached it on first listen with the expectation that it was going to be both hard going and not very good.

It's odd how the critical reaction of other people can colour your experience of a record, even to make you dislike something you wouldn't normally pay attention to. But also, at the time, I don't think I *liked* Aphex. I was a Spacemen 3 stan who didn't see the point of "modern dance music" - i.e. I liked Selected Ambient Works (but saw it as an outlier that was nothing like the rest of his stuff) and Orbital, but wasn't prepared to go any further out than that at all.

In 2001 I was in a very different place, emotionally and musically, and listening to a lot of glitchy era Radiohead and people were saying to me "you shouldn't be listening to that, you should be listening to Aphex and Squarepusher" and so I tried this album, and my reaction was that it was NOTHING like what I liked about Kid A/Amnesiac - my immediate reaction was "bleurgh, this is a lot of noise and disjointed random rhythms that make no sense."

It's funny, though, *now* having learned a lot more, and broadened my tastes, my reaction to it is very different. I mean, the other record I just bought at the same time was the new FlyLo and if I can pick out order and pattern from that burst of randomness, Drukqs is almost easy listening by comparison. A lot of the stuff that just irritated me at the time (WTF? Why does he have his parents singing happy birthday on one track? And some random chick shouting at him in French on another? What's with the awkward piano solos?) makes a lot more sense in the context of knowing more about him as an artist and as a human being. It seems less like a random assortment of sounds, and more like a carefully crafted collage of a self portrait.

So it's partly about taking a record on its own terms, rather than as a Cultural Event. And partly about how my tastes have completely changed. (It's funny, I thought people's tastes were supposed to get narrower in their 30s. My tastes got narrower in my 20s, then just completely exploded in my late 30s)

― The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Friday, 21 May 2010 09:32 (3 years ago) Permalink

There's something very creepy in Richard's mum's Cornish-accented voice isn't there? What about that whooping laughter on one of the Ventolin EPs?

― village idiot (dog latin), Friday, 21 May 2010 09:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

Erm, no. I thought his mum sounds like a right laugh. Especially the impromptu harmony on the "tooo yooouuu" bit. More Welsh than Cornish accent, though.

"Richie" made me laugh, though. The idea of anyone calling him Richie seems inconceivable but clearly his mum does. Adorable.

― The Curve Of Blinding Energy (Masonic Boom), Friday, 21 May 2010 09:49 (3 years ago) Permalink

COME ON YOU C*NTS LETS HAVE SOME APHEX ACID!

― ma/y/aoi (Future_Perfect), Friday, 21 May 2010 14:51 (3 years ago) Permalink

Ha, I never could figure out what dude said before acid.

― Tonight I Dine on Turtle Soup (EDB), Friday, 21 May 2010 23:46 (3 years ago) Permalink

this album always reminds me of living in a dorm, staying up late working on paintings

― hobbes, Friday, 21 May 2010 23:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

BASS
BIT

― The world’s most violent pizza delivery man (Alan N), Monday, 24 May 2010 01:42 (3 years ago) Permalink

The long Kate post up thread is awesome, ILM all-time.

― Davek (davek_00), Monday, 24 May 2010 01:53 (3 years ago) Permalink

Alan N - I always heard that as "decent bit"

― village idiot (dog latin), Monday, 24 May 2010 12:17 (3 years ago) Permalink

definitely could be wrong on that one. but cool track.

so, I listened last night and was a little taken back by how abrasive some of this album is. and after all these years, I'm still not sure how I feel about this one.

― The world’s most violent pizza delivery man (Alan N), Monday, 24 May 2010 13:54 (3 years ago) Permalink

and admittedly i most often listen to a single-disc redux of favorites i made if i put it on these days...

same here.

― The world’s most violent pizza delivery man (Alan N), Monday, 24 May 2010 13:56 (3 years ago) Permalink

a playlist of the ambient/interlude/piano tracks off this makes a pretty good bootleg SAWIII

― don cab for cutie (Future_Perfect), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:24 (2 years ago) Permalink

The *intricacy* of the drum programming on the "drill and bass" bits just blows me away every time.

After living with it for a few weeks, I cannot believe I ever disliked this album. It's just a digital orgasm, from end to end.

― Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:28 (2 years ago) Permalink

I haven't listened to this album in like 5 years. I will revisit it today.

― limp bizkotti (Stevie D), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:36 (2 years ago) Permalink

i'd forgotten about this little gem:

― don cab for cutie (Future_Perfect), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:37 (2 years ago) Permalink

Can someone please tell me what shoegaze choon it is that Jynweythek Ylow so reminds me? It's driving me nuts. Kept thinking it was a Pale Saints song but it wasn't that.

― Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Sunday, 30 May 2010 16:41 (2 years ago) Permalink

2 years pass...

im listening to some record called "canaxis 5" by Technical Space Composer's Crew from 1969 and theres a bonus track titled "Cruise"

the intro appears to be what Aphex Twin sampled for the intro of "Afx237 v7" AKA the sound used for when Rubber Johnny opens his mouth and makes a weird noise... although it might just sound like it and not be a sample at all...

― billstevejim, Saturday, 1 September 2012 01:07 (8 months ago) Permalink

Can someone please tell me what shoegaze choon it is that Jynweythek Ylow so reminds me? It's driving me nuts. Kept thinking it was a Pale Saints song but it wasn't that.
― Using an Aural Exciter in an Orgone Accumulator (Masonic Boom), Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:41 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I have FINALLY worked it out. Not Pale Saints but Boo Radleys.

The melody on Jynnweythek Ilow is a lot like the melody on the verse of this:

― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 1 September 2012 08:23 (8 months ago) Permalink

Ha, I love that Boos track but would never have made the connection. Don't tell Tuomas or he'll start talking litigation! (Actually a pretty good example of how the importance of melody in pop is often overstated, imo.)

― ledge, Saturday, 1 September 2012 08:33 (8 months ago) Permalink

I think it's just that both AFX and the Boos had a thing for those kind of jaunty, wistful ("Celtic"?) melodies. Melody is pretty much the least important thing in terms of music, it's much more about arrangement, atmosphere, everything else. Because my brain has for years been making the jump between those two songs whenever I hear one, it goes to the other, but the actual tracks really are nothing alike.

― my god it's full of straw (White Chocolate Cheesecake), Saturday, 1 September 2012 09:08 (8 months ago) Permalink

the first dozen or so posts on this thread are something

― thomp, Saturday, 1 September 2012 09:45 (8 months ago) Permalink

Haha, I never heard that boos/Aphex connection and they're two of my favourite acts in the history of music!

― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Saturday, 1 September 2012 11:12 (8 months ago) Permalink

For what it's worth, I'm always tempted to do a 'Richard's Mum' harmony whenever anyone gets sung
'Happy Birthday'.

― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Saturday, 1 September 2012 11:15 (8 months ago) Permalink

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