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..... has anyone else read the new issue of Mojo with the massive Kate Bush feature and cover story?
What's everyone's favourite KB moment? Single or album?
And when the f*ck do we think the new album's due? It's now 10 years since the last (pretty dire IMO) 'Red Shoes'.
Personally, I think she's one of the few artists the word 'genius' belongs to.
And how much do we hate Tori frigging Amos? Dreadful derivative sixth-form poetry nonsense, I reckon.

russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

latest info:
http://www.pauseandplay.com/cdfront.htm
Kate Bush (title TBA) (U.K. - EMI, September 2003)

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i did a piece on hounds of love for the Church of Me abt a year ago. go to http://cookham.blogspot.com/2002_01_27_cookham_archive.html and scroll down past the so solid crew section.

Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Great link, DJ Martian. Didn't know about that site.

As for the Kate Bush album, if it's ready by then great, but I wouldn't count on it.

Favourite album has to be 'Hounds of Love'.

James Ball (James Ball), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 12:16 (sixteen years ago) link

Marcello - absolutely stunning. Well observed and fasntastically written. Damn impressed. It never ceases to amaze me that people don't own Hounds of Love - if there ever was an 'essential album' in your collection, there is no other one, really.

russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

Marcello - absolutely stunning. Well observed and fasntastically written. Damn impressed. It never ceases to amaze me that people don't own Hounds of Love - if there ever was an 'essential album' in your collection, there is no other one, really.

DJ Martian - interesting site....I think it'd be a colossal mistake to not release her album this year. What she must remember is that the age bracket who religiously bought her music has now grown up..... and rarely purchase CDs as such any more.... and she's not endeared herself to a new audience at all. Since her break, copyists like Amos, Harvey etc have appeared and cornered that end of the market. I've a feeling EMI will be very worried about this new album's release...


...great to see The Beloved still around, though.

russ t, Wednesday, 22 January 2003 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah I'm looking forward to the new Kate Bush album, and from the list on that link, Lou Reeds new album (the Raven) looks pretty cool: (David Bowie, Laurie Anderson, Ornette Coleman, etc as guests) The new Massive Attack (100th Window) should be good too.

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 17:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Hounds of Love is hard to beat for melody, majesty and the whole 9th Wave operetta. But The Dreaming is still my favorite, because it's her darkest, weirdest, most charmingly unhinged record. I mean, "Sat In Your Lap" is some seriously odd music, but it's also catchy as hell. And "Leave It Open," and the donkey braying at the end of "Get Out of My House," and the scary-sexy-demon way she spells "dreamtime" on the title track. I think that album is where she put it all together; Hounds of Love (which is great, don't get me wrong) is where she buffed and polished it.

Jesse Fox (Jesse Fox), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

My favorite is "The Kick Inside"... but then again I love Laura Nyro.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 22 January 2003 19:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I think her finest moment was the 'This Woman's Work' single which, IMO, is the finest song ever written - it's just perfect, lyrically and musically.

Even her b-sides are incredible - Under The Ivy, b-side to Running up that hill is another fine song.

Didn't like the Red Shoes album much at all (Eric Clapton?!),apart from Song of Solomon and Big stripey lie.

The Dreaming is a brave, dark record....hard to believe it's 20 years old.

Next month, it's 25 years since Wuthering heights hit number one, too!? Where did that go?

But my favourite album is Hounds of Love - Mother stands for comfort is like a warm blanket, and 9th Wave is breathtaking.

Kate Bush never ceases to amaze and fascinate me, though, and the new album, in this sterile music scene, will be so welcome.

russ t, Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:01 (sixteen years ago) link

[Re: The Beloved

Yes, The Beloved (jon marsh) is back and working on new material, however the Beloved listed via the link is a hardcore rock band.]

DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:07 (sixteen years ago) link

Right, you bastards, I'm going to go and buy it at lunch time and if it isn't grate I'm gonna burn your fucking houses down.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link

it's grebt nick -- our houses will be safe!!

geeta, Thursday, 23 January 2003 11:47 (sixteen years ago) link

It's considerate of you to do it today now the firemen are back at work, Nick. But geeta's right - you'll have to find some other outlet for your arson-lust.

James Ball (James Ball), Thursday, 23 January 2003 12:21 (sixteen years ago) link

They may be back at work but they're out of practice! I will find a reason to burn things!

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 23 January 2003 12:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Kate Bush: I loved everything up to and ending with Hounds. I love in particular, Lionheart with its weird tinkly piano and the idea of a young witch-in-the-making with her glass-shattering voice in a crooked little house swaying in the windy dark. I love the sheer musicality of Never For Ever. I love the majesty of Hounds.

I once had a dream with her "All the Love" as a soundtrack, I woke up completely creeped out and wondering where the words "I needed you - to love me too. I wait for your move" came from.

However her videos are unremitting pap. They are a complete embarrassment and I wonder why she doesn't hire e.g. Madonna's directors. I know it might all turn out horribly wrong and commercial and her delicate imagery and ideas wither but ANYTHING ANYTHING would be better than (god help me) "Army Dreaming" etc.

M Chong, Friday, 24 January 2003 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Well it was 1980, nobody's videos were exactly great!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 24 January 2003 18:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Favorite Kate Bush moment? Wish I had a link to verify it, but in some interview a number of years ago, someone asked her when the last time she cried was, and her answer:

"When I heard Killing Joke broke up!"

**FACT**

Kate was a huge fan of the Joke. Youth even played bass for her on the HOUNDS OF LOVE album. Thus, KATE BUSH HONORS THE FIRE!!!

http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/youth/youth27.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 24 January 2003 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link

" Kate was a huge fan of the Joke."
- besides allegedly 'onouring the Joke (+breathing fire since birth),
the young pre-fame La Bush most certainly was pulled by the Incedible String,
purple hearting them fan clubbingly

(*goes to honour the fire in own kitch'': to strike match, light cig*)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 25 January 2003 01:20 (sixteen years ago) link

(*on returning from honoring the fire*)

Alex in NYC -- what's your fave Jaz'ed-up orchestra'vaganza then?

Jaz does Doors,
Jaz ups Zep,
Jaz goes Pink F ?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 25 January 2003 01:24 (sixteen years ago) link

They're all pretty needless and dreadful, honestly. But, if I had to pick one, I'd probably opt for the Zep one. Actually, of Jaz's usually ill-advised orchestral outings, the record he did with Anne Dudley of Art of Noise called SONG FROM THE VICTORIOUS CITY is pretty interesting.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 25 January 2003 14:07 (sixteen years ago) link

'd pretty much agree with you, Alex, on orchestral Jaz (the worst of which must be the Jaz-in-Pink plunder)
'Victorious City', tho', mostly listenable even now, yes --

BTW, there ever been a separate thread on Anne Dudley?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Saturday, 25 January 2003 15:17 (sixteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Surmounter, Is "The whole story" a good starting place?

I know, right?, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 19:55 (eleven years ago) link

to be honest, i haven't even listened to it.

i rly would start with the dreaming. i'm not a compliation person myself.

Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

Either am I.

It's just I managed to find it on rapidshare. I am listening now. I might leave it, I'm sure HMV will have it knocked down for January.

You must also listen to Arthur Russell pretty soon.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:02 (eleven years ago) link

oh ya! thank you, almost forgot...

Surmounter, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:13 (eleven years ago) link

I just pulled out _The Whole Story_ the other day and it's still a damn good place to start. Clearly she's due for a new retrospective as _TWS_ only goes through 1986! But it culls choice tracks from her early albums, enough to help you decide if you want to pursue them further.

Mr. Odd, Wednesday, 26 December 2007 20:56 (eleven years ago) link

seven months pass...

Just another gratuitous revive of a random Kate Bush thread...*cough* *Ah HEM!* Move along, nothing to see here.

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 28 July 2008 08:27 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

It was raining and I was alone this week so I put on Hounds of Love and it made me cry.
It's not an album to dip into, it has to be heard from start to finish, then again. For when those
moments pop out at you and make you sit up, "pause for a jet", "look who's here to see you", "Murderer!".
the key change when the Hello Earth theme returns. I put this moment here.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 11:42 (eleven years ago) link

"Do you see that little light up there?"
"Where?"
"There"
"Where?"

gets me every time.

sparkletuna, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 12:21 (eleven years ago) link

<3 <3

kate on a piano in dream of sheep is so perfect, so singer songwriter with something bigger, so crystal clear.

i'll wake up to the sound of engines. ::vrrrrooom::

Surmounter, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:55 (eleven years ago) link

i can't listen to hol or the dreaming without crying. it's like watching steve martin without smiling.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:57 (eleven years ago) link

this one never fades. like a childhood dream.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

<3 <3 <3

dudamel (get bent), Thursday, 1 October 2009 06:33 (ten years ago) link

YES

ian, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:45 (ten years ago) link

that last one!

surm, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:55 (ten years ago) link

loolll. i love that mean expression that she can do. is that the RUTH video?

surm, Thursday, 1 October 2009 17:59 (ten years ago) link

i'm not sure...i need to go watch a shitload of her vids

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e20111690c4ad4970c-800wi

omar little, Thursday, 1 October 2009 18:02 (ten years ago) link

Dry contact lenses there, I reckons.

Mark G, Thursday, 1 October 2009 22:36 (ten years ago) link

whoa thats dope

xhuxk mangione (deej), Friday, 2 October 2009 10:02 (ten years ago) link

yeah where i can i exchange dollars for that

ok star grumbles (lukas), Friday, 2 October 2009 15:56 (ten years ago) link

ebay

omar little, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:09 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOo916s2jTI

omar little, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:25 (ten years ago) link

watching kate bush interviews is very good for getting hypnotized

omar little, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:32 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7KVdwYSX6A

omar little, Friday, 2 October 2009 17:32 (ten years ago) link

oh my gosh thank you for these gifs omar

existential eggs (Abbott), Friday, 2 October 2009 21:20 (ten years ago) link

Have thought abt going as her in the Babushka video for Halloween, for years.

existential eggs (Abbott), Friday, 2 October 2009 21:22 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

there was a really nice, well-written essay, in the last issue of the wire, on the song "cloudbusting."

jeevves, Saturday, 4 December 2010 04:36 (eight years ago) link

four weeks pass...

My hero: Kate Bush by David Mitchell

mookieproof, Saturday, 1 January 2011 00:45 (eight years ago) link

Much as I love Kate and any deserved publicity she gets in this newfound diva era, I kind of read that and just found myself going "and you're point is?" towards the end. Is that a usual thing with The Guardian - random-esque articles in which some randomite (?) reminisces over why he likes such and such, their virtues, and then fin?

Anyways, that Razzamatazz video is mesmerizing and yet the whole thing with there being children in the background just made lusting slightly awkward.

heh (kelpolaris), Sunday, 2 January 2011 03:39 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OLJFzNPBNg

balls, Sunday, 2 January 2011 03:45 (eight years ago) link

I thought maybe this would be about new songs. Ah well.

katherine (katherinesta), Sunday, 2 January 2011 04:13 (eight years ago) link

A lost voice of ancient Albion awoken in the modern age

that you NV ;)

Boo Radely and the Super Fury Aminal (acoleuthic), Sunday, 2 January 2011 04:15 (eight years ago) link

srsly that word is the twat alarm of 2KX

Costco Chapel (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 January 2011 04:18 (eight years ago) link

An ancient Greek poetess stranded in the vapid and empty 'culture' of celebrity

pretty sure this shtick does not work in Wetherspoon's of a Friday night but good luck son

Costco Chapel (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 January 2011 04:20 (eight years ago) link

dude wd appreciate the stoic romanticism of a thorough glassing imo

Boo Radely and the Super Fury Aminal (acoleuthic), Sunday, 2 January 2011 04:22 (eight years ago) link

David Mitchell isn't a randomite. You could make a case for 'cloud atlas' being the kind of book Kate would write if she was a novelist. Mitchell adoring her makes perfect sense.

Tim F, Sunday, 2 January 2011 12:40 (eight years ago) link

His work on 'Peep Show' was pretty good as well...

Les centimètres énigmatiques (snoball), Sunday, 2 January 2011 12:53 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

i think this sounds very interesting and a bit crackers. maybe she doesn't think these 2 albums in particular were ver given their due. she'd be correct of course i guess. anyway...

KATE BUSH RELEASES “DIRECTOR’S CUT” A NEW ALBUM WHICH SEES HER RE-VISIT A SELECTION OF TRACKS FROM TWO OF HER CLASSIC ALBUMS.

London, 11 March 2011

Kate Bush releases an unusual new album “Director’s Cut” on May 16 on her own label Fish People, in conjunction with EMI.

On “Directors Cut” Kate revisits a selection of tracks from her albums “The Sensual World” and “The Red Shoes”, a process that presents a fascinating portrait of an artist in a constant state of evolution. She has re-recorded some elements whilst keeping the best musical performances of each song – making it something of a director’s cut but in sound, not vision.

A new version of “Deeper Understanding” will be released as a single in April. Although written some twenty years ago, the song may be more relevant today than ever…

Kate is currently working on new material although no release date has been set for this.

“Director’s Cut” will be released in the following formats:

Digital Album, Standard CD in a case-bound book, Deluxe CD (three disc package, including Director’s Cut, The Sensual Word and re-mastered The Red Shoes) in a case-bound book and two-disc vinyl.

Other digital and vinyl formats will be made available on katebush.com. Details will be published shortly.

http://www.katebush.com/

-

amazing to think there's not been a decent Best Of / Greatest Hits album in almost 25 years. especially seeing as she's on EMI and all.

piscesx, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:41 (eight years ago) link

haha so it's not actually a new new album

sure it'll be nice but can't get excited about reissues really

lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:47 (eight years ago) link

ah, but she is very wise..

"The Red Shoes" got the most 'unexcited' reviews she ever had, and putting them in with "The Sensual World" which got the most (ahem) excited ones, sounds like all this stuff will get fashioned into something better.

(I don't own either, and really don't know either either)

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:58 (eight years ago) link

And, of course, she won't feel the need to break cover and appear anywhere to publicise these, right?

Mark G, Friday, 11 March 2011 15:59 (eight years ago) link

Yeah these are pretty much my least favourite Kate Bush records so hopefully something great will come out of it. The Sensual World in particular would benefit from being re-recorded and re-arranged Aerial-style.

Matt DC, Friday, 11 March 2011 17:23 (eight years ago) link

Would be incredible to hear Wuthering Heights redone (not that there's anything wrong with it!). But imo those are pretty safe albums to re-sing... I'm still curious as to whether Kate can still belt or not. Aerial was fairly mellow, on the vocal range...

yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:05 (eight years ago) link

the sensual world is perfect and fine, red shoes is like, 1/2 good. so I hope for some improvement there but resent the fucking with Sensual World. Also, the three disc package: are both albums remastered or just red shoes? don't get it.

way to get all sylvian on us, re-recording and arranging things. ugly cover art too. bah.

akm, Friday, 11 March 2011 18:12 (eight years ago) link

Would be incredible to hear Wuthering Heights redone (not that there's anything wrong with it!)

she resung it for the whole story i think - it's less shrill, i guess i'm used to the original though.

are there any examples of an artist redoing their back catalogue that are actually significant improvements (i'm talking "omg this is great" rather than "this is just nice") on the originals? when tori amos did it, it was pretty much entirely ignorable.

lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 18:16 (eight years ago) link

xpost

tbh Kate Bush is in my top 5 regarded artists, but I've never liked any of her cover art. Hounds of Love looks like it was done in Microsoft Word
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/eb/Hounds_of_love.jpg/220px-Hounds_of_love.jpg

yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:23 (eight years ago) link

but that's what you get when you're under EMI. I sorta doubt she has any authority over her covers at all. I mean, look at this one:
http://pixhost.info/avaxhome/fa/88/000e88fa_medium.jpeg
GAWD

yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:28 (eight years ago) link

"My face is orbiting the sun!"

oigwheoiqng4g (seandalai), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:32 (eight years ago) link

cant wait to hear the new version of 'deeper understanding'
the original is soo cringeworthily awesome

throwing darts and eating pizza behind impenetrable walls (diamonddave85), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:33 (eight years ago) link

editing myself, she's currently on Legacy records. Which strikes me as weird/unsurprising that some corporate schmuck from Sony would be getting paid $45/hour to take a picture of a film roll and overlay KB's name atop. What genius!!

yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 18:42 (eight years ago) link

lolwut @ that "and so is love" cover

lex pretend, Friday, 11 March 2011 18:43 (eight years ago) link

xxp surely it's the Sun orbiting Kate's face? Damn you and your warped heliocentric views!

I've never liked any of her cover art

I love the cover of The Dreaming. Nothing wrong with Sensual World or Aerial either.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:45 (eight years ago) link

sensual world, dreaming, the kite version of the kick inside are all good. lionheart is good too in a cheesy 70's way.

akm, Friday, 11 March 2011 19:47 (eight years ago) link

Nothing wrong, but nothing great. Faces. The album art seems more like a chronology of her hairstyles than, like her music, works of art.

Aerial was at least a departure, altho again, the text is shoddy and the whole thing looks like it literally took about 25minutes.

yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:48 (eight years ago) link

just saying she deserves much better

yeah (kelpolaris), Friday, 11 March 2011 19:51 (eight years ago) link

can't believe the Bush cover art is getting dissed. The Dreaming is a classic and the Hounds photo is brilliant too!

piscesx, Friday, 11 March 2011 21:34 (eight years ago) link

The Sensual World The Red Shoes in particular would benefit from being re-recorded and re-arranged

FTFY. The ugly, hollow production on The Red Shoes really spoils the album for me.

are there any examples of an artist redoing their back catalogue that are actually significant improvements (i'm talking "omg this is great" rather than "this is just nice") on the originals?

Raw Power, though I know some will vehemently disagree.

I feel a thread coming on!

Hideous Lump, Saturday, 12 March 2011 00:29 (eight years ago) link

http://www.vinylsearcher.com/largeImages/23570976.jpg

If you don't like the cover for Never for Ever, I don't understand you! Kate as a bat lady on the back cover is also awesome.

http://www.bloodsprayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/kate_bush_bat-wings.jpg

Buff Orpington (Abbbottt), Saturday, 12 March 2011 01:05 (eight years ago) link

^ actually, that would be 2nd favorite behind Lionheart
http://991.com/NewGallery/Kate-Bush-Lionheart-275771.jpg
and Eat The Music is a cool departure
http://rsindex.pictures-hosting.com/2009-12-02/000e8868_medium.jpeg

but for the rest of them, it's always just some facial of Kate w/ a different costume/hair-do. They capture her personality, sure, but they're so damn boring
http://gaffa.org/sensual/p_ruth2.jpg

and really I'm arguing for little cause here... apart from that I desperately hope that the Director's Cut album's artwork is only a conceptual. Because it's the biggest snooze I've ever possibly seen.

yeah (kelpolaris), Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:03 (eight years ago) link

Aerial was at least a departure, altho again, the text is shoddy and the whole thing looks like it literally took about 25minutes.

i was going to post aerial to refute the original claim because i remembered it as being Cool but then i looked it up and saw the photoshop lens flare and sheepishly left the thread

difficult listening hour, Saturday, 12 March 2011 02:34 (eight years ago) link

http://www.katebushnews.com/wp-content/uploads/directorscut2.jpg

Mark G, Saturday, 12 March 2011 12:32 (eight years ago) link

and it's not like the stills within the film are any interesting. it's artwork from other albums.

bahhh whatever. guess i'll deal.

yeah (kelpolaris), Saturday, 12 March 2011 18:13 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5UsjqXXcZ4

some of the old school fans are pretty pissed about this! lot of ranting about kate using a 'voice coder'. obviously not quite realising she's pretending to be a computer.

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 4 April 2011 10:36 (eight years ago) link

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5448294272_150c939581_m.jpg

Mark G, Monday, 4 April 2011 10:52 (eight years ago) link

yeah not quite sure whats up with that

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 4 April 2011 11:05 (eight years ago) link

oh sorry yes its her new vanity isn't it?

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 4 April 2011 11:05 (eight years ago) link

Director’s Cut will be released 16 May and will be available for pre-order from iTunes tomorrow. There has been a lot of speculation about the track list with many people trying to guess which tracks will feature on the album. Well, we can now confirm that the final track list is...

Flower of the Mountain (previously ‘The Sensual World’)

Song of Solomon

Deeper Understanding

Lily

Red Shoes

This Woman’s Work

Moments of Pleasure

Never Be Mine

Top of The City

And So Is Love

Director's Cut will be released on 16 May 2011 and will be available to pre-order from iTunes from tomorrow (5th April). Anyone who pre-orders from iTunes will instantly receive the full length version of "Deeper Understanding" as a thank you!

Sittin' Fran (donna rouge), Monday, 4 April 2011 14:42 (eight years ago) link

this is weird haha

diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:39 (eight years ago) link

these are all really undemanding songs in terms of vocals. gonna be a really mellow album, this.

kelpolaris, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:46 (eight years ago) link

im really stoked to hear 'flower of the mountain' as 'the sensual world' is one of my favorites

diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:50 (eight years ago) link

"Sensual World" could easily fit into her current style of singing. I got a lot of sense of it in Aerial's "Nocturn", in sense that they're both warm cooings atop plodding (but welcome!) beats.

this whole project rly confuses me tho. is it her attempt to modernize songs she found especially dated? "deeper understanding" upthread is a espcially bizarre take, almost more afitting to that brit spears song that did the same (can't think of the name??) with the max'd-out vocoder thing.

kelpolaris, Monday, 4 April 2011 15:56 (eight years ago) link

yeah this whole project makes no sense to me, even hearing the reworked 'deeper understanding' didn't offer any clues.

my first thought is that she's finally jumped the shark but then again this is the same woman who gave us the stunning aerial after a 12 years absence

diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:01 (eight years ago) link

Yeah really. I mean there are particular examples of bands covering their own songs that I've thought played out suprisingly well (thinking the excellent Yardbirds reconvening for "Birdland", when they were all in their 50's/60's/whatever) but w/ those the only difference was higher standards of production and just general abandon of the lo-fi thing that defined the 60s. It's true, KB does sound dated compared to modern female vocalists but the fact that she never really sound afitting to anything her generation produced at the same doesn't give this that same sort of bewilderment that one would attain from having a quissentially evocative group (of, for example, the 80s) like New Order come around and re-do all their songs.

KB seems to care enough about her reputation that I can't think she's doing this for a quick cash-grab but at the same she isn't really producing much new aside from what I assume is going to be a compilation of songs with deeper bass and some employment of newer technology. Which, again, is sorta like Britney Spears just releasing an album w/ a sound particular to whatever trends are going on at the moment (her latest it some weird dubsteb infusion)

kelpolaris, Monday, 4 April 2011 16:32 (eight years ago) link

I really don't think she thinks of it in terms of career plan at all - the link between whatever she wants to do and the business side / celebrity cycle seems almost non existant

reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:04 (eight years ago) link

the deeper understanding take is awful.

the songs from the red shoes are pretty much the songs on that album that I like, can't tell if that's good or bad; I was hoping she'd fix the songs I didn't like and make them better, but I don't really want to hear those ones futzed with. I assume she's stripping the trio bulgarka from all these takes which is unfortunate.

bah kate wtf are you doing

akm, Monday, 4 April 2011 17:43 (eight years ago) link

I thought she made some seriously cheesy musical choices on Aerial so won't be surprised if she's become the Witchy Soccer Mom Of Music.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:51 (eight years ago) link

PS Would still have her babies etc.etc.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 4 April 2011 17:54 (eight years ago) link

love kate but i can't find it in me to get remotely excited about re-released "reworkings" - by the same token though its existence doesn't mean she's jumped any shark. it's just a pointless between-albums exercise, probably cuz she's bored or it's in her contract or she wants some more money or to keep her name around.

lex pretend, Monday, 4 April 2011 18:25 (eight years ago) link

i'm okay with her reworking red shoes tracks, but the production and performances on the sensual world were amazing and i'd be disappointed if she didn't agree. (i'd be fine if she publically disowned "reaching out," though.)

butterfield earth (get bent), Monday, 4 April 2011 18:33 (eight years ago) link

Wow, this new Deeper Understanding is seriously, tragically bad. Sounds like a Cleopatra Records tribute album.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:31 (eight years ago) link

Although I do like how the end sounds like Laughing Stock-era Talk Talk.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 4 April 2011 19:33 (eight years ago) link

Aw man, I can't like the "Deeper Understanding" mix — most of the Trio Bulgarka vocals are gone! The original mix also sounded a lot more spacious. This sounds like what it most likely is — a home studio recording.

corey, Monday, 4 April 2011 19:47 (eight years ago) link

wasnt aerial recorded in her home studio as well?

diamonddave85, Monday, 4 April 2011 20:28 (eight years ago) link

Uh, haven't all her albums since Hounds of Love been recorded there?

Number None, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:41 (eight years ago) link

I think so, but none of them sound like home recordings (Aerial does a bit in some of the dated sounds she uses).

corey, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 01:47 (eight years ago) link

The story on the retitling of "The Sensual World" as "Flower of the Mountain" is that on the original she had asked for and been refused permission to quote directly from James Joyce's Ulysses, but she asked again recently and this time they let her.

She could have used the Ralph Spoilsport mantra instead.[/firesign]

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 04:06 (eight years ago) link

sadly, i fear kate is more interested in keeping the unwashed masses away from her beachfront 17-acre manse than in making music. she's fucking turned into the edge or something.

butterfield earth (get bent), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:14 (eight years ago) link

Hey Now!! Getting a little carried away there, Kate will never be any member of U2. Everyone needs to breathe a little easier over this project.

JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:17 (eight years ago) link

i'm just ribbing kate cuz i love her.

butterfield earth (get bent), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:18 (eight years ago) link

I'm actually looking forward to hearing this, but I won't listen to any clips until I have the record in my hand. It might be a failure, but hearing her sing This Woman's Work again could never disappoint. I don't really question why she's doing this, just happy to hear her voice.

JacobSanders, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:23 (eight years ago) link

i dont not dig this

k3vin k., Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:24 (eight years ago) link

She has identified the good tracks on The Red Shoes rather precisely. Also apart from leaving in Deeper Understanding and leaving out The Fog she's also chosen my favoruites from The Sensual World. Not sure what this means.

A comp of just the originals of these tracks would be an amazingly strong album, I reckon.

Tim F, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:32 (eight years ago) link

sadly, i fear kate is more interested in keeping the unwashed masses away from her beachfront 17-acre manse than in making music. she's fucking turned into the edge or something.

― butterfield earth (get bent), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:14 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

She's the only 'artist'/'famousperson' I've been in a studio with and prevented (we all were, it wasn't just me) from going anywhere near.

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 06:41 (eight years ago) link

Mark, why were you in a studio with Saint Kate? Any interesting tales about her working methods, juicy gossip etc?

Cluster the boots (Billy Dods), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:00 (eight years ago) link

It was a TV studio, I was there as a member of a TV pop review panel.

She was being interviewed on-camera about 2 hours after we'd finished our pieces, but we had to stand 'over there' and go nowhere near the goddess either before or after her spot.

Sorry bout that, story got less interesting the longer I went on.

lol, as they say..

Mark G, Tuesday, 5 April 2011 13:03 (eight years ago) link

After the slightly conservative production on Aerial, if she wants to go back and make The Sensual World and The Red Shoes more electronic, I'm not complaining.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 12:54 (eight years ago) link

Really not getting this after hearing Deeper Understanding. I thought the reworking would be more drastic - maybe a type of solo piano thing. The new version is very similar, just not as good.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 6 April 2011 13:39 (eight years ago) link

Well, Big Boi's a fan

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 April 2011 18:43 (eight years ago) link

Did I read somewhere that the computer on this is sung by her kid?

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 7 April 2011 03:44 (eight years ago) link

Big Boi has been repping for Kate for forever!

Winter Crab (Abbbottt), Thursday, 7 April 2011 03:45 (eight years ago) link

Ah no, I meant, of this new rerecording!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 7 April 2011 04:01 (eight years ago) link

http://www.katebushnews.com/wp-content/uploads/KB2A-682x1024.jpg

Kate Bujorshk

kelpolaris, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:37 (eight years ago) link

o ya, and a glimpse into the Directors Cut packaging (image = huge)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6569/directorscutdeluxeset.jpg

Fish People = Khate Buorke

kelpolaris, Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:40 (eight years ago) link

this will make lex real mad but anyway this alan partridge kate bush medley fucking slays me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJbjAwvRWLs

Bleeqwot the Chef (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 April 2011 21:57 (eight years ago) link

WTF with Fish People? The interior of the packaging looks hundreds of times better than the exterior.

akm, Friday, 8 April 2011 04:58 (eight years ago) link

there is a clip of Lily on youtube now, it is..also not as good as the original.

akm, Monday, 11 April 2011 14:08 (eight years ago) link

this strikes me as one of those perfectly misguided times when an artist "finally does" the one thing her "fans" have wished and moaned on the internet for them to do until it's become blindly accepted as a good thing. And then weirded out/dissapointed instantly when it happens and the reality is.. errr.

"wouldn't it be great if xyz took all the good bits from the (less satisfying than their consensus peak) record(s), took another go at the production and everything would be great again! blemishes forgotten and the world (and fans ideals of their god...) made a bit more perfect!" what could possibly go wrong?!

*see also "back to the sound of when more people liked them/they were more pop" = return to form (unless it's shit and totally devoid of the un-recapture-able x factor that made the original sparkle in context & time.

*doubt this is Kate's sole motivation, but surprised she isn't just moving on....

*"Smile" I guess? Never been a big Beach Boys fan but only positive counter-example I can think of.

side splitting genital based username (fndgo), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:38 (eight years ago) link

that said, it's Kate Bush!!!!!!

I love both the source albums regardless, "bad production" isn't something that gets in the way for me 99% of the time....

side splitting genital based username (fndgo), Monday, 11 April 2011 17:40 (eight years ago) link

kinda taking this as a retirement note, but at the same time, i can't even fathom her not trying to release one more great album -

this is a bit shallow, but in a lot of ways i think the directors cut is just a bit to keep her vox in check and, hey, sell the product

o pointy birds, o pointy pointy, anoint my head, anoity noity (kelpolaris), Monday, 11 April 2011 21:30 (eight years ago) link

preview of 'flower of the mountain' is up now and it's bad too. so my hopes are officially dashed for this turning out good.

akm, Monday, 18 April 2011 13:53 (eight years ago) link

yeah I dunno we'll see. I like all of these songs and can't imagine any of them being improved upon frankly, and what I've heard so far is NOT promising. but the moments of pleasure take at least sounds good.

akm, Monday, 18 April 2011 17:55 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i'm maybe most intrigued by that one, although i really like the kamen orchestration on the original version

boehner und der club of gore (donna rouge), Monday, 18 April 2011 17:58 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Loving this new "Deeper Understanding". If the rest of the album is just as odd I'll be very happy.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 9 May 2011 04:13 (eight years ago) link

Interview with Kate Bush by Ken Bruce on the way on BBC Radio 2 now

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 9 May 2011 09:06 (eight years ago) link

this is streaming on NPR (and apparently on japanese itunes so I'm sure a leak is around somewhere). listened to most of it last night. Not convinced by the Flower of the Mountain; I love Ulysses and I love that monologue but I think the Sensual World worked better, it just sounds kind of flat....

The This Woman's Work re-do is pretty intense and sad. maybe too sad.

akm, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:08 (eight years ago) link

The BBC show isn't available in my area? Just listened to 'This Woman's Work' and it's beautiful and devastating.

JacobSanders, Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:56 (eight years ago) link

on the other hand, this new version of 'rubberband girl'...also sucks! i really just don't like that song at all

spätzle logic (donna rouge), Thursday, 12 May 2011 17:57 (eight years ago) link

hella disappointed with Flower of the Moutain, the oOOOOOOO yes parts from the original were my favorite!

ODD FURRY WOLF GANG KILL THEM ALL PLEASE!!!! (diamonddave85), Thursday, 12 May 2011 18:54 (eight years ago) link

the mix is terrible, I hope this is not how the final thing sounds, the vocals are way too high on many things (and so is love for example)...yeesh, this project is such a misstep. what the hell?

in one of the interviews it sounded like she is done with a new album. bring that on. but I hope she does a better job on it than she did on this. it's weird she's donig so much promotion for this project and she was like completely absent when arial came out.

akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 00:08 (eight years ago) link

and rubberband girl is bad. very bad.

the only success here is this woman's work and moments of pleasure, and I don't think they're any better than the originals, they're just different. these other versions just sound...what the hell.

akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 00:10 (eight years ago) link

"never be mine" is not bad - dunno that i prefer it to the original or anything

mostly underwhelmed by this

spätzle logic (donna rouge), Friday, 13 May 2011 00:15 (eight years ago) link

This is on Spotify now btw.

Øystein, Friday, 13 May 2011 10:07 (eight years ago) link

I could probably sing the majority of ~ 10-12 Kate Bush songs from memory and there is nothing on this record I have heard of. Is that by chance or is it just that odd a set of songs?

thomp, Friday, 13 May 2011 10:28 (eight years ago) link

Xpost one of those 'trib' acts has done, ooh, 30 gigs now...

Mark G, Friday, 13 May 2011 10:43 (eight years ago) link

I'm liking this. I like these stripped down versions of some songs ("Sensual World", " Song Of Solomon", ...) that I often found fussy and overproduced in their original states. Her subtle use of studio bells n' whistles is also great. I'm also really digging that smoky, lower register she's singing in. I think she pulls it off.

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:43 (eight years ago) link

"Deeper Understanding" sounds AWFUL.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:47 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i honestly don't know why that was picked as the lead promotional track for this

spätzle logic (donna rouge), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:48 (eight years ago) link

the robo voice is cloying in the worst sense.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 May 2011 14:53 (eight years ago) link

How deluded am I that I find this album (mostly) remarkably beautiful and more essential than "Aerial"?

Winky Dinky Dawgz (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 15 May 2011 08:46 (eight years ago) link

It's pretty and all, but I really hoped for more dramatic changes. I mean, This Woman's Work has almost become an entirely new song, which might even surpass the original. But all the other tracks stay so close to home that I wonder why she went through all the trouble. They remind me so much of the originals that I can't help comparing and they lose on all accounts. I always hated Rubberband Girl and hoped for a slow impression on solo piano or another acoustic instrument, because that might've improved the song. Now we end up with the exact same monstrosity (well, a little bit more Stones like).

All in all I'm looking more forward to the remaster of the Red Shoes album.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Sunday, 15 May 2011 13:22 (eight years ago) link

new version of Moments Of Pleasure = astonishing. although some of the names originally listed (Maureen and Bill) have fallen by the wayside. MOJO has a long piece all about Director's Cut by Keith Cameron and it's bloody great. she says
"if people don't like this and they like the old ones, then the old ones are still there aren't they?"

piscesx, Sunday, 15 May 2011 17:14 (eight years ago) link

I wonder if it would have been better if she had just opted for the rerecording of some old songs. That way it is a bit like what those songs might sound like nowadays if Kate would perform them live. I strongly feel that because she worked with the same recordings these new versions are too much rooted in the originals. I think the main reason why I like the new This Woman's Work so much is because I hardly hear any 'samples' taken from the original.

Regarding the above statement: every artists is entitled to create whatever they want, of course, just as the audience is entitled to think of that whatever they want.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Sunday, 15 May 2011 18:46 (eight years ago) link

Has anybody seen the Deeper Understanding video? Damn.

Per Yngve's having his brain out (MaresNest), Sunday, 15 May 2011 18:56 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, that wasn't an easy sit through.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Sunday, 15 May 2011 19:03 (eight years ago) link

still can't get over how she changed the words to "And So Is Love" so the song is completely different

katherine, Sunday, 15 May 2011 20:35 (eight years ago) link

it's weird she's donig so much promotion for this project and she was like completely absent when arial came out.

― akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 01:08 (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ so weird

just sayin, Monday, 16 May 2011 08:23 (eight years ago) link

Probably because this project needs the extra push, whereas Ariel didn't.

Mark G, Monday, 16 May 2011 08:29 (eight years ago) link

aerial

wacky onassis (get bent), Monday, 16 May 2011 08:31 (eight years ago) link

Oriole.

Mark G, Monday, 16 May 2011 08:49 (eight years ago) link

The new 'Deeper Understanding' cut is so bad it makes me angry. And so sad that I'm completely disheartened to try this album even.

I also can't come to grips with the whole 'aura' around this album, which merely seems to be "I thought it be cool to just, y' know, try this", "There's always the old versions" etc... From a woman who's always been so forward thinking and avant-garde in terms of creativity.

I just don't know what the hell this is supposed to be. Off to read the PF interview, hope it clarifies some things...

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 May 2011 09:00 (eight years ago) link

I see *all* of her albums are re-released, with nary a mention of EMI on the packaging.

Mark G, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:15 (eight years ago) link

are they? only The Red Shoes is being remastered though.

piscesx, Monday, 16 May 2011 14:16 (eight years ago) link

Only The Dreaming through The Red Shoes to my knowledge; of which only the last one is remastered. Another mystery decision. There are excellent Japanese remasters available of all these albums, so why stick to those crummy eighties' editions?

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:33 (eight years ago) link

The new 'Deeper Understanding' cut is so bad it makes me angry

Be assured that the terrible robo-voice only occurs on that track. All the other material is harmonically sound. But yeah, if she wanted to visit old stuff - most artists do it all the time on stage - why taking this road? Can you imagine some intimate live versions of these songs with only Kate on piano (or a sparse backing ensemble)? Bring it on!

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:36 (eight years ago) link

i do hate to say it but her taste is hit or miss these days it seems. deeper understanding is .... ALMOST good? but the production of her voice is not what it should be at all. and she is not helping the nasal quality in her voice. it's too bad.

the new momnts of pleasure is pretty cool though, especially the humming.

j lol (surm), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:48 (eight years ago) link

I derive some hope from your assurance that the robo-voice is only on that track, Sebastian, so thank you for that ~ I'll give it a dedicated shot. Bang on about the rest, I could think of several ways that would make for way more interesting 're-interpretations' of her old work. Gladly that is not up to me, but I do think it's an unfortunate choice.

Psyched I most definitely am about the actual new album that is coming out.

xp

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 16 May 2011 14:53 (eight years ago) link

Pitchfork actually has a fairly good interview here
http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7968-kate-bush/

Stay Puft Daddy (kelpolaris), Monday, 16 May 2011 20:16 (eight years ago) link

and Kate takes the slight-troll of "what was the logic behind that?", regarding removing instrumental sections, surprisingly well. I mean it's nuts to think that no matter what Kate is quite clearly proud of most anything she does... imo, I like that about her.

Stay Puft Daddy (kelpolaris), Monday, 16 May 2011 20:17 (eight years ago) link

the new version of "this woman's work" is ridiculously pretty. if nothing else the project is worth it for that, still waiting for the other songs to sink in. i have no problem with the new version of deeper understanding, i like it, but don't love it.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 16 May 2011 22:53 (eight years ago) link

I've listened to the album through three or four times now and I think that is enough, but, TWW is really good. The rest is either bad or just kind of...sits there.

akm, Monday, 16 May 2011 23:07 (eight years ago) link

As one of the few stalwart defenders of The Red Shoes (not a great album but a more than respectable stab at adult contemporary; and wtf I love "Rubberband Girl"), I'm still scratching my head about the point of this project.

ginny thomas and tonic (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 May 2011 23:12 (eight years ago) link

i love deeper understanding
not sure what you guys don't like

it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:28 (eight years ago) link

Nice Irish Times interview from a couple of weeks ago, ends with this quote:

It was never my intention to go so long without touring. I have no plans to tour at the moment, but I’d like to think that I would again some day. I’ll never say never.

Also, has anyone seen the bizarre TV ad for the new record? Robbie Coltrane being smothered by CGI blobs coming out of his computer...

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 20 May 2011 14:51 (eight years ago) link

SFJ piece forthcoming in the newyorker i think

crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 May 2011 14:55 (eight years ago) link

i love deeper understanding
not sure what you guys don't like

― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:28 (2 days ago) Permalink

her voice sounds like shit on it. that song is written SO WELL - it's like, the original is pretty good, but to be given the opportunity to redo it - i expect something perfect.

j lol (surm), Friday, 20 May 2011 14:57 (eight years ago) link

oh right that ad is taken from the Deeper Understanding video I see (xposts to myself).

so SFJ is still writing for the new yorker as well as doing The Daily? glad to hear it, and look forward to reading that.

Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Friday, 20 May 2011 15:23 (eight years ago) link

I may have misunderstood who he was writing the bush piece for.
I had not heard this song prior and was not aware it was a remake.

crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 May 2011 08:28 (eight years ago) link

sfj still writes for the nyer

just sayin, Saturday, 21 May 2011 09:14 (eight years ago) link

yeah, i know; he just did that tuneyards piece. Just not sure who the bush piece is for.

crazy donkey winger (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 May 2011 20:18 (eight years ago) link

Did this get linked somewhere?

Kate Bush writing new album - Singer to follow Director's Cut with first batch of original songs since 2005
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/may/27/kate-bush-writing-new-album

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:19 (eight years ago) link

It was already known, strikes me as a bit odd that the Graun is selling this as hot news.

Mad excited nonetheless

...wow! (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:36 (eight years ago) link

Maybe I'd missed it but I hadn't seen the rumours backed up by hard evidence before.

immer wieder, ralf & günther (NickB), Friday, 27 May 2011 09:38 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Really am enjoying the remaster of The Red Shoes. I always thought that album sounded flat and unpleasantly harsh. Detonating with the layered sound Kate is known for. This new analogue remaster lifts the album straight into Kate's realm. The drums and percussion are warm and deep, and the bass is energetic and bouncy. Kate and band are really standing in your living room now. The album used to sound cluttered but now everything that's going on in the background - which is a lot; classic Kate - has room to breathe and excel. This has become an entirely new album for me.

It has also been remixed a little. For some reason Big Stripey Lie has a fadeout now; omitting the sound of a rattling drum computer coming to a halt. This is a pity. But Eat the Music seems to have gained some extra layers of background vocals, making the song better and richer (although those extra layers might've always been there, impossible to be discerned before due to the crappy production).

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Saturday, 11 June 2011 13:49 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

The beautiful rework of "Moments Of Pleasure" still chokes me up. Especially when the humming choir comes in. Man. I still really love
"Director's Cut".

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 27 August 2011 06:20 (eight years ago) link

Agreed. I think it's a terrific record. Production is fabulous.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 27 August 2011 13:53 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Yesssssssssss!!!

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:55 (eight years ago) link

“50 Words For Snow” will feature seven brand new tracks set against a background of falling snow. The total running time is 65 minutes and the track listing is:

SNOWFLAKE
LAKE TAHOE
MISTY
WILDMAN
SNOWED IN AT WHEELER STREET
50 WORDS FOR SNOW
AMONG ANGELS

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:55 (eight years ago) link

Seven songs, 65 minutes... *drools*

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:56 (eight years ago) link

Excited by the news, but eww at the cover.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Monday, 12 September 2011 10:56 (eight years ago) link

Surely this is deserving of a new thread?

Matt DC, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:10 (eight years ago) link

christ: the last six years have gone fassssst

all the small zings (history mayne), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:15 (eight years ago) link

It's a winter album, then.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 12 September 2011 11:31 (eight years ago) link

WILDMAN

As done by Wild Man Fischer?

Mark G, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:34 (eight years ago) link

No reworked version of "December Will Be Magic Again"?

Jeff W, Monday, 12 September 2011 11:46 (eight years ago) link

The snowman with lips makes me feel a bit nauseous. That's just wrong man

Leonard Pine, Monday, 12 September 2011 12:17 (eight years ago) link

Snowman? I thought it was Alfred Hitchcock.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Monday, 12 September 2011 12:20 (eight years ago) link

That nose is gonna have her eye out.

Turrican, Monday, 12 September 2011 12:49 (eight years ago) link

That cover seriously needs to go away forever.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:08 (eight years ago) link

The title is stupid too.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:08 (eight years ago) link

I love Kate Bush!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 12 September 2011 13:08 (eight years ago) link

well this album art won't convert any of the 'Kate's artwork sucks' mob from upthread.

piscesx, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:09 (eight years ago) link

This will be a treat in winter, unless it's a grave disappointment. I'm optimistic though.

_Rudipherous_, Monday, 12 September 2011 14:54 (eight years ago) link

Two albums in one year from KB can only mean she's getting everything out before the 2012 apocalypse.

For many years, Stewart Avon Arnold has enjoyed intense conversations with Bush about a range of spiritual and philosophical matters. "We talk about different philosophies on the phone for hours," says Arnold. "She mentions karma a lot, and reincarnation, and witchcraft and paganism and Buddhism. We always end up in these conversations about life in general and spiritual life in particular. Both of us have a fascination about spiritual life; we used to question each other and we still do. She'll phone me and say, 'What do you think about this, Stewart?' It always comes down to the spiritual questions in life, Man's place on the planet and what we're doing to it. The other thing that I talk about with Kate is The End of Days. Not Revelation, because neither of us believe in the Bible as such, but in terms of what Nostradamus was saying about 2012. The Hopi Indians, too. We're in for a global meltdown of some kind, the planet will change drastically in the next 10, 15 years. That's something Kate and I talk about quite a lot."

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:08 (eight years ago) link

She mentions karma a lot

:/

i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:09 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, idek. That's from the Under the Ivy bio.

The Not Liking Radiohead Awards (Turangalila), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:13 (eight years ago) link

I would've lived on perfectly fine without knowing that tbh

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:16 (eight years ago) link

Then why didn't she contribute ANY songs to the 2012 soundtrack?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:21 (eight years ago) link

Filter did.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:22 (eight years ago) link

I would've lived on perfectly fine without knowing that tbh

― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, September 12, 2011 5:16 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

yes this news has shattered my image of kate bush as a level-headed empirical sort

all the small zings (history mayne), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:27 (eight years ago) link

lol fair play

Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 12 September 2011 16:31 (eight years ago) link

Stephen Fry did some spoken word on this new album. Weird.

Turangalila, Friday, 16 September 2011 08:46 (eight years ago) link

That's on the extra secret track, "General Ignorance"

Mark G, Friday, 16 September 2011 08:53 (eight years ago) link

'50 words for snow' is just the sort of boring subject I can imagine him jibbering on about tbh.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 16 September 2011 08:54 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure he's already done a 50 point penalty for someone saying there were 50 words for snow in the Eskimo languge.

Although, looking at Wiki, it seems it's not exactly a fallacy as such: There's certainly a lot of words for Rain in the eng lang.

Mark G, Friday, 16 September 2011 08:57 (eight years ago) link

You see I'm preemptively bored of his appearance already.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 16 September 2011 08:58 (eight years ago) link

Rolf Harris was successfully recontextualised though, so you never know.

Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Friday, 16 September 2011 09:00 (eight years ago) link

Rolf has always been gangsta

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 16 September 2011 09:17 (eight years ago) link

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/arts/sites/rolf-harris/images/rolf-on-art-2001_01_446.jpg
"Can you tell what it is yet, muthafukaz?"

serve soup without tasting it (snoball), Friday, 16 September 2011 09:54 (eight years ago) link

http://www.barrylou.com/art/favoriteMusic/rolfHarris.jpg

"Yeah, this album is dedicated to all the teachers that told me
I'd never amount to nothin', to all the people that lived in the bush
I was hustlin' in front of that called the police on
me when I was just tryin' to make some money to feed my daughters,
and all the niggaz in the struggle, you know what I'm sayin cobber'?

Jamie_ATP, Friday, 16 September 2011 10:14 (eight years ago) link

only just listening to Director's Cut, the "Deeper Understanding" rework is absolutely brilliant.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2011 12:28 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzqF_gBpS84

Don't think the video ever got posted

master musicians of jamiroquai (NickB), Friday, 23 September 2011 12:44 (eight years ago) link

i see Robbie Coltrane's as good an actor as ever

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2011 12:48 (eight years ago) link

Is the Deeper Understanding rework the one with the robot voice? I thought I was the only person in the world who liked that.

Matt DC, Friday, 23 September 2011 13:03 (eight years ago) link

no i looked upthread, there's you, me and at least one other guy

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2011 13:12 (eight years ago) link

made me want a whole album of autotuned Kate Bush tbh, but i think i might just be trolling

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2011 13:13 (eight years ago) link

God, I hope you are NV!

Can't stand that autotune. She damn well steer clear of that on the new album... :-/

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 23 September 2011 13:25 (eight years ago) link

But what do we expect? Big changes, like from Never for Ever to The Dreaming or just a continuation of the sensual, laid back and smooth sound of Aerial and Director's Cut? It has been stated that the new one has been recorded at the same time as Director's Cut. Also, the tracks on the new one seem fairly long. All music, or minutes upon minutes of falling snow and the crunchy sound of people walking in it? I have to admit I'm a bit fearful.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Friday, 23 September 2011 13:41 (eight years ago) link

i'm the other guy.
isn't the autotuned voice her son?

Dudley Daigle: Tugboat Captain (forksclovetofu), Friday, 23 September 2011 13:43 (eight years ago) link

It's an old-fashioned vocoder rather than autotune, right?

Matt DC, Friday, 23 September 2011 13:44 (eight years ago) link

I don't know what to expect Sebastian, but the prospect of 7 songs in 65 minutes makes me highly anticipate it!

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 23 September 2011 14:09 (eight years ago) link

More or less than the Lou Reed/Metallica? Because that is the gold standard of anticipation.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 23 September 2011 14:17 (eight years ago) link

Tough one, but more.

'Main Shop of Love' Gigolo (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 23 September 2011 14:18 (eight years ago) link

i am completely down with minutes upon minutes of falling snow and the crunchy sound of people walking in it.

Dios mio! This kid is FUN to hit! (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2011 14:29 (eight years ago) link

Kate already went ambient with the new version of This Woman's Work, so yeah, using the sound of snow as main musical texture could be the next logical step.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Friday, 23 September 2011 14:44 (eight years ago) link

for me, kate bush has always been about challenging my aesthetics, but god damn that cover..

jeff tWEEDy (diamonddave85), Friday, 23 September 2011 18:24 (eight years ago) link

It's not too big a change from what I though was a pretty boring one for Aerial

Never liked Kate Bush album-art, honestly (but I adore her despite)... think I actually posted about it upthread.

Hullo, I'm Jon Moss (kelpolaris), Saturday, 24 September 2011 03:26 (eight years ago) link

I was the other other guy who likes "Deeper Understanding". Very much looking forward to this new one.

Vendo Caramelos A Veces Sin Dinero (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 September 2011 14:19 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

New single is pretty interested and bodes well for the album after disappointment of Director's Cut. Sounds fairly Dreaming era arrangement wise. Sad to hear her voice is slightly diminishing in it's power nowadays though.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 10 October 2011 10:19 (eight years ago) link

I missed the premier on BBC Radio2, is that where you heard it? I'm stoked!

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 October 2011 11:28 (eight years ago) link

Someone posted it for streaming here: http://breakingillusions.tumblr.com/post/11268597787/wild-man-kate-bush-album-version-you-are

Not for me, I'm sad to say.

Leonard Pine, Monday, 10 October 2011 11:38 (eight years ago) link

oops xp

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Monday, 10 October 2011 11:39 (eight years ago) link

Thanks guys!

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 October 2011 11:42 (eight years ago) link

Chorus sounds kinda Steely Dan

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Monday, 10 October 2011 11:44 (eight years ago) link

I really like it, thanks.

Ismael Klata, Monday, 10 October 2011 11:47 (eight years ago) link

Hmmm... It's good, but I'm not mad on the chorus.

It's got a bit of a Bowie-vibe overall, no?

Her voice has definitely waned a bit, she sounds more like Patti Smith.

I'm very glad to hear form her again after DC which was a disaster imho, so it's good to have her back, and like Jamie said, bodes well for the album.

Young Swell (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 October 2011 11:51 (eight years ago) link

love the new song!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 10 October 2011 13:27 (eight years ago) link

can't tell. honestly for years I've been very lukewarm on anything new she puts out but then I grow to love most of it. the music is great, certainly

akm, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 04:01 (eight years ago) link

This song is a bit. . . uneventful.

Cal Jeddah (_Rudipherous_), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 05:05 (eight years ago) link

It's got a bit of a Bowie-vibe overall, no?

I was more thinking Japan. A very early eighties electronic sound for sure.

Sebastian (Royal Mermaid Mover), Tuesday, 11 October 2011 12:42 (eight years ago) link

I thought it pretty much follows on from Aerial, somewhere between 'King of the Mountain' and 'Nocturn'. I really like the production, the progression in the electric piano sounds is warm and lovely.

One thing though is that there's not much in the way of melody. On the verses she's really having to try to force the vocal into a tune that isn't really there. It's something that's come out of participating in the U2 and Led Zep, how eventually the ability to write strong hooks just goes. You make up for it in other ways, like her exploring long, loping rhythms, but I'm wondering if that's a universal of ageing for some reason.

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:22 (eight years ago) link

in the U2 and Zep polls

Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 13:27 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Nice.

Lawanda Pageboy (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:39 (eight years ago) link

Indeed.

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:44 (eight years ago) link

ugh son lol

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 November 2011 21:49 (eight years ago) link

why can't that be the new album cover instead of pedo-snowman?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 7 November 2011 23:24 (eight years ago) link

4real. it's a great image

NO NUTRITIONAL CONTENT (kelpolaris), Monday, 7 November 2011 23:26 (eight years ago) link

totally

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 November 2011 23:26 (eight years ago) link

all in favor say aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy

NO NUTRITIONAL CONTENT (kelpolaris), Monday, 7 November 2011 23:28 (eight years ago) link

I'm in favour of all images of Kate Bush.

Turrican, Monday, 7 November 2011 23:38 (eight years ago) link

OK, in all seriousness, it's a beautiful image but it has way too much potential to be derided and dubbed something like Kokey Kate if the album came across as particularly strange to a critic. I mean I like to feign maturity and all but I couldn't help but think of it as Kate in a ski mask after having cased some drug dealer's joint.

NO NUTRITIONAL CONTENT (kelpolaris), Monday, 7 November 2011 23:46 (eight years ago) link

Kokey Kate? Seriously?

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 7 November 2011 23:47 (eight years ago) link

"something like" were the keywords; i'm not prophesying here

NO NUTRITIONAL CONTENT (kelpolaris), Monday, 7 November 2011 23:53 (eight years ago) link

but yes its ridiculous

NO NUTRITIONAL CONTENT (kelpolaris), Monday, 7 November 2011 23:53 (eight years ago) link

The thought didn't occur to me at all!

Turrican, Monday, 7 November 2011 23:56 (eight years ago) link

this was actually her original design for the LP cover:

http://www.dopenativeboy.com/wp-content/uploads/jeezy_snowman_tee_logo.jpg

vitameatawalloginavegamin (donna rouge), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 00:03 (eight years ago) link

Perfect for the Class of 2017 dorm-room walls.

your way better (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 00:05 (eight years ago) link

what is this purported pedosnowman img?

The Uncanny Frankie Valley (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 00:07 (eight years ago) link

http://www.katebush.com/

they hit you with it right off the bat.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 00:45 (eight years ago) link

Awww yeah!! :D

Turrican, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 01:08 (eight years ago) link

"A Little 'Snow' At Christmas Never Hurt Anyone!"

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 09:14 (eight years ago) link

Eh, what's with the furs? Kate, I thought you were my veg buddy.

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 09:18 (eight years ago) link

She addressed this after more people complained:

A note about fur and photographs

From Kate...

Hi there,

We have recently taken some photos and I just want to pre-empt any concerns there might be as I'm sure most of you will feel the same way as I do about wearing real fur. All the fur in these photos is synthetic.

Best wishes,
Kate

I don't even get the point of wearing fake fur, but at least it's not real...

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 09:59 (eight years ago) link

Redeemed! Thanks LBI!

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:05 (eight years ago) link

xpost dunno, is it warm or something?

Mark G, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:16 (eight years ago) link

There's a review of this in the new Wire btw. Unsurprisingly the reviewer is kind of luke warm on it (it is the Wire after all):

50 Words For Snow is like a wintry riposte to the midsummer day of Aerial's conceptual suite, A Sea Of Honey. Instead of the amber glow of midsummer sunlight, it's another kind of brightness - the whiteness of snow - that presides. The mood is subdued, the backing spare, meditative, but - as we've become used to with Bush - lacking in any adventurousness of spirit; at points, you could even describe it as late night jazz club tasteful.

Also, didn't we predict the following upthread? Can't say I'm relishing the prospect...

Stephen Fry playfully intones the 50 synonyms of the album's title track

Lars and the Lulu Girl (NickB), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 10:30 (eight years ago) link

don't forget about the proper album thread Kate Bush // 50 Words For Snow

muah!

surm, Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:41 (eight years ago) link

Thanks, I completely missed that thread!

Y Kant Lou Reed (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 November 2011 14:46 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

Kate Bush - Manchester Apollo 1979-04-10 SOUNDBOARD

up on d1mead0zen right now, previously unknown/uncirculated

Source: VHS of unbroadcast Granada TV 'On The Road' film taped on April 10th at the Manchester Apollo.
Lineage: VHS to CD-R.

boy would I love to see that VHS

Flat Of NAGLs (sleeve), Sunday, 18 March 2012 17:47 (seven years ago) link

four months pass...

i don't see how any good can come from this

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 16 August 2012 13:19 (seven years ago) link

like when björk/timbaland finally happened, there's something...tardy about this

they should've done it in the early 00s

lex pretend, Thursday, 16 August 2012 13:33 (seven years ago) link

It wouldn't have been good even then.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 August 2012 13:36 (seven years ago) link

I did see a stack of promo CD singles just now in R&TE, Berwick Street.

"Running up that hill (Deal with God) 2012 version"

£40 each.

Mark G, Thursday, 16 August 2012 14:32 (seven years ago) link

Some collaborations should exist only in the imagination - if at all. This is one of them. If this happens it can't be anything but embarrassing for both parties. yeesh.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:52 (seven years ago) link

Also : "...Loch Ness Monster's forest in London"? Haha.

Loo Reading (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 August 2012 15:53 (seven years ago) link

I'd be okay with him just turning up in some spoken word capacity but honestly I can't imagine many artists whose music is less suitable for MCing over than Kate Bush's and I highly doubt that this collaboration is even in the pipeline in the first place.

Matt DC, Thursday, 16 August 2012 16:30 (seven years ago) link

This collaboration is so heartwarming. He's like her biggest fan:

http://www.spin.com/articles/short-history-big-bois-kate-bush-obsession

hurricane weather (forapper), Friday, 17 August 2012 02:37 (seven years ago) link

Big Boi, if you're reading: All You Cruisers - THE KATE BUSH VOTING THREAD (ilm artist poll #24: deadline Saturday 25 August)

Ismael Klata, Friday, 17 August 2012 06:37 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

Love it:

Pitchfork: You've talked about wanting to collaborate with Kate Bush before, how's that going?

Big Boi: It's coming, man. I talked to her on the phone. She's cool as hell-- I didn't know she said that many cuss words.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 November 2012 17:53 (seven years ago) link

har

(alternatively, “Respec’”) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 November 2012 21:26 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

http://bushygifs.tumblr.com/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 9 August 2013 00:48 (six years ago) link

hmmm

katherine, Friday, 9 August 2013 01:44 (six years ago) link

"I have got a Kimble"

Mark G, Monday, 19 August 2013 13:53 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

a friend pointed out the other day that the field's "over the ice" is more-or-less entirely composed of samples from "under ice" and slightly blew my mind

clouds, Monday, 2 September 2013 16:42 (six years ago) link

yep. that's why it RULEZ.

Jamie_ATP, Monday, 2 September 2013 16:50 (six years ago) link

Same thing happened to me this year despite having known and loved both songs for ever.

ewar woowar (or something), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 09:51 (six years ago) link

may 2007 lay heavily upon all your heads, forever

btw i hear "kappsta" is based on angriest dog in the world incidental music, can someone confirm?

awake the snorting citizens (discreet), Tuesday, 3 September 2013 10:36 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

less than a month until the live shows ARGH

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 31 July 2014 14:14 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

less than a week fuck ARGH they've been rehearsing all week omFGGGGGGGM

can't say i've ever been more excited about a show.

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:52 (five years ago) link

this is gonna be amazing, hope something gets released eventually

sleeve, Thursday, 21 August 2014 15:56 (five years ago) link

I am ... so, so happy for those of you going to this show. <smiles at you beatifically, a single tear of joy shining on my cheek>

ugh (lukas), Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:04 (five years ago) link

looking forward to seeing a set list! if you're going, have a great time. I bet it'll be amazing.

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 21 August 2014 16:10 (five years ago) link

I unexpectedly got tickets last week :-D

I'm not sure I will be able to handle september tbph

a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Thursday, 21 August 2014 21:05 (five years ago) link

i really don't know how i'm gonna stay composed throughout the show

there's gonna be so many ppl in tears lol

prolego, Thursday, 21 August 2014 21:26 (five years ago) link

Yeah for the ~event~ alone I wish I was going. I mean, the first MBV reunion show was intense, but this...

slip jig (seandalai), Thursday, 21 August 2014 22:23 (five years ago) link

I'm so incredibly jealous of everyone going.

Only Kate Bush can make me feel like a childish fanboy even though I'm a grown ass man

, Friday, 22 August 2014 19:17 (five years ago) link

Simon Reynolds:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 August 2014 19:19 (five years ago) link

Haven't got a ticket. Got a kidney to spare in return though (hardly used)

The Channel 4 doc was p great: http://youtu.be/kjsL3x0NWyc

ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:28 (five years ago) link

Big article in the Sunday NY Times as well.

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:34 (five years ago) link

One thing that (BBC) doc reminded me of: John Harris on Newsnight Review being wrong about Aerial.

painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture (DavidM), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:35 (five years ago) link

Oh yeah soz it was the Beeb instead of C4.

ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 23 August 2014 22:41 (five years ago) link

that was a weird thing to put in; I mean they (understandably) didn't spend huge amounts of time on things post- Hounds of Love (ie: they didn't bother talking aobut the long form video for the Red Shoes) but they barely touched on Aerial at all so why bother spending time on a newsclip of someone (wrongly) knocking it?

akm, Sunday, 24 August 2014 04:55 (five years ago) link

also: I'd heard that there was something about Del going to the press or something; are they still on good terms? I'm surprised he talked at all about the breakup in this.

akm, Sunday, 24 August 2014 04:55 (five years ago) link

Such an awful doc: again talking heads almost always saying nothing (Neil Gaiman's 'this is a person that reads books' was particularly annoying), gossip (that moment when the guy who is asking the question attempts to pry into the relationship KB might've had with the keyboard/producer person), the one academic (trotting out the usual rubbish). No ideas - makes you quite glad that no money was spent on it either.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 August 2014 08:45 (five years ago) link

thank you

Daphnis Celesta, Sunday, 24 August 2014 10:06 (five years ago) link

"the keyboard/producer person"

that was Del Palmer, her primary collaborator on just about everything! Not just some 'person'

akm, Sunday, 24 August 2014 17:15 (five years ago) link

i'm listening to aerial while sick and omg this record is perfect

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 25 August 2014 00:37 (five years ago) link

When it came out, Amber loved it while Alice was "No.. No.. No more song about washing machine..."

Mark G, Monday, 25 August 2014 15:16 (five years ago) link

that bbc4 doc was so disappointing. thee only people who said anything of interest other than insignificant, meaningless anecdotes were maybe brett anderson and people who actually worked with her. a complete anti climax. the latest issue of mojo is better for it at least attempts some history but even that is just a transparent cash-in (a run down of her 'best moments'). simon reynolds' guardian piece was better than anything in that doc.

StillAdvance, Monday, 25 August 2014 17:18 (five years ago) link

Short version of my oft told anecdote:

We were both on the same tv show one time, but my fellow pop panellists were kept well away from herself, even backstage.

Mark G, Monday, 25 August 2014 19:50 (five years ago) link

dress rehearsal in front of 4000 friends and family last night. surprisingly little leaking out about it.
anyone know anyone who went?

piscesx, Monday, 25 August 2014 20:21 (five years ago) link

ah, she knows who her (tight-lipped) friends are

Mark G, Monday, 25 August 2014 20:28 (five years ago) link

tell us the long version of the anecdote Mark! which TV show, when etc?

piscesx, Monday, 25 August 2014 20:56 (five years ago) link

Ummm

It was called "The Saturday morning show" LWT, I along with three others reviewed singles, discovered I have no TV presence so sacked that as a career. Top single was Graham Parker, presenters were Steve Jones (the one that looks like brains off thunderbirds) and Elvis Payne.

Mark G, Monday, 25 August 2014 21:11 (five years ago) link

when.. 1979 I think. Look up "Protection" G.Parker for a close date.

Mark G, Monday, 25 August 2014 21:12 (five years ago) link

************************SPOILERS****************************** Two photos have leaked and two song titles, Wuthering Heights (with some sort of hang drum arrangement) and Moments Of Pleasure, reports of a 2'50" set.

FML Threads (MaresNest), Monday, 25 August 2014 21:14 (five years ago) link

haha @ josh

john wahey (NickB), Monday, 25 August 2014 22:14 (five years ago) link

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo6opvlmSJ1qkrirro1_500.gif

jamiesummerz, Monday, 25 August 2014 22:26 (five years ago) link

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo6opvlmSJ1qkrirro1_500.gif

jamiesummerz, Monday, 25 August 2014 22:26 (five years ago) link

Steve Coogan really spoiled that BBC doc. Needed more Tricky; and much more Lindsay Kemp.

mahb, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 08:17 (five years ago) link

needed no opinions whatsoever from fucking pop stars i don't give a shit about tbh

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 08:51 (five years ago) link

Coogan was really terrible in that yeah. Tbf I liked the bit where (st Vincent?) kept going on and on about how terrible it would be if anyone else tried to sing "hounds of love"

a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 09:50 (five years ago) link

There was enough Lindsay Kemp, nice bloke but didn't have much more to add.

Coogan at least managed to provide a 'lancing' of those oh-so-funny Kate impersonators that basically waved their arms around and screeched.

They went with what they could get, and there's not much available for "50 words for Snow" beyond Stephen Fry (who was on the album) and some artists who had a 'favourite'.

Anyhow, treat it as the first half, with the "Kate at the BBC" comp as part two.

(They really should repeat the "Kate" show completely, really)

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 09:50 (five years ago) link

Interesting that they had the "KT Bush Band" version of "Come Together", perfect sound quality..

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 09:52 (five years ago) link

bat for lashes did herself no favours. nice to see Del Palmer talking though yeah.

piscesx, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 10:16 (five years ago) link

Tbf I liked the bit where (st Vincent?) kept going on and on about how terrible it would be if anyone else tried to sing "hounds of love"

yeah i was laughing at the Futureheads throughout that bit

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 10:27 (five years ago) link

i found tori amos pretty annoying myself

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 17:08 (five years ago) link

https://twitter.com/Mumbler3/status/504204976739319808

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 17:09 (five years ago) link

haha @ that one that got to no 1

and smiths ref

annndd what. phil collins?

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 17:11 (five years ago) link

ned, get thee to the jeff buckley thread

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 17:14 (five years ago) link

"haha"

Daphnis Celesta, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 17:29 (five years ago) link

apparently madonna, bjork and grace jones are in the audience

I NEED A GROUP PHOTO

prolego, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:35 (five years ago) link

Danny Baker started a rumour that Bowie's joining her onstage.

piscesx, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 19:41 (five years ago) link

Bate Kush

switching letters guy, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:38 (five years ago) link

that kush

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:40 (five years ago) link

baked kush

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:40 (five years ago) link

who is danny baker and why would he know? that would be insane though

also images already posted, looks nuts

http://www.theguardian.com/music/live/2014/aug/26/kate-bush-first-before-the-dawn-gig-live-blog

akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:42 (five years ago) link

what are the odds that peter gabriel shows up during the run at some point?

akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:43 (five years ago) link

for a special don't give up take

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:43 (five years ago) link

now I'm fucking mad I can't make these shows.

akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:45 (five years ago) link

I'm considering avoiding pictures, liveblogs, this thread &c till Ive seen the show next week. I know the idea that you can "spoil" a concert is kinda dumb but I think that anything particularly holy-shit about the way they present these songs might have more impact if it comes as a suprise

a spectrum is taunting ur OP (wins), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:46 (five years ago) link

Didn't Danny Baker play R2d2?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:50 (five years ago) link

Talking about Danny's/Dan's, I wonder if she'd ever consider bringing in Danny McIntosh or even Bertie for that one track on 50 Words

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:54 (five years ago) link

bertie is there already, guardian has a photograph of him on stage in costume

akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:55 (five years ago) link

Oh! I totally missed that!

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:57 (five years ago) link

sounds amazing so far.

piscesx, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 20:57 (five years ago) link

so is this correct? No Wuthering Heights?

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/kate-bush/2014/eventim-apollo-london-england-23ce788f.html

akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 21:32 (five years ago) link

Str8 trolling, heading back home on the train, mind blown. I urge anybody who is going not to read any reportage, seriously folks

FML Threads (MaresNest), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:20 (five years ago) link

It's not like we're jealous or anything you know.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:22 (five years ago) link

Wins is 100% right, shit is crazy and the internet will spoil it

FML Threads (MaresNest), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:33 (five years ago) link

all us americans are going to look up the spoilers anyway since I think we have a next to nothing chance of getting to experience this live, unless she heads to vegas and sets up a residency for 5 years.

akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:36 (five years ago) link

Don't remind me. It's awful. I can't believe she's not coming to NA.

, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:41 (five years ago) link

maybe she'll surprise everyone

akm, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:48 (five years ago) link

So sad I'm not able to go, I even F5'd the Grauniad's live blog :'-(

ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 22:53 (five years ago) link

okay so fyi for those who do want to spoil it for themselves, http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/kate-bush/2014/eventim-apollo-london-england-23ce788f.html
is now accurate...

no idea why people would put such bullshit fake ones up... really weird. same with the supposed 'leaks' about the friends and family show - which had exactly the same setlist as tonight -

SPOILERRRRS!!!!
no wuthering heights, no moments of pleasure, and it was 900 or so poeple, not 4000!
SPOILERRRRS ABOVE!!!

i really want to keep away from all internet reviews and social media as it will be full of wankery - the experience of these shows is about kate and her family and fans and any contact with internet / press world will only irritate.

all i'll say is i've never seen so many happy faces - for me it was a wonderfully intimate experience, as insane and unexpected and fantastic as it could have been, pleasing the fans whilst also doing exactly what the fuck Kate wants to do regardless of anyone else.

love you Kate.

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:06 (five years ago) link

but yes, if you want a special evening - avoid pictures, setlists, and conversation. it is full of magic and surprises and you owe it to yourself to enjoy that to the full

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:08 (five years ago) link

oh only other thing i would say was it was a joy to be sat near Dave Gilmour, Paddy Bush, Del Palmer - made it even more special to be with the people that helped make so much amazing music happen

My friend actually got a ticket for tonight at face value from the Eventim website earlier today - so keep trying people!!!

okay must stop typing.

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:11 (five years ago) link

I thought I saw Paddy Bush, was he one block back from the stage at the front row of the middle block?

FML Threads (MaresNest), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:15 (five years ago) link

yes - bald with big white beard!

jamiesummerz, Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:19 (five years ago) link

yay!

FML Threads (MaresNest), Tuesday, 26 August 2014 23:25 (five years ago) link

The satirical website the Daily Mash claimed that, at the gig's conclusion, Bush would "lead the audience out of the venue, along the fairy-tale Hammersmith Flyover and finally to a mountain where they would be sealed inside, listening to Hounds of Love for all eternity".

SIGN ME UP

sleeve, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 01:21 (five years ago) link

ok yet another setlist is posted.....sounds like this one is credible.

akm, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 01:22 (five years ago) link

WoW, with two clips:
http://pitchfork.com/news/56476-kate-bush-performs-among-angels-at-first-show-in-35-years-video/

Bee OK, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 04:18 (five years ago) link

wow wow wow wow wow wow
unbelievable

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 05:12 (five years ago) link

you can tell that was filmed by a fan by the way they ignored the request not to film

Daphnis Celesta, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 05:16 (five years ago) link

^

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 09:13 (five years ago) link

My friend actually got a ticket for tonight at face value from the Eventim website earlier today - so keep trying people!!!

incredibly, there was one for sale just now. but it was gone by the time i got to checkout.

StillAdvance, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 11:11 (five years ago) link

The actual setlist is way way better than the (quite low-key) fake setlist. Going next week, just ridiculously excited now.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:36 (five years ago) link

Given it's like 90% culled from her best two albums it's virtually perfect, actually. I'm assuming that, given how choreographed the show reportedly is, it won't change much over the course of the tour.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 12:41 (five years ago) link

Saw one of those clips, I think it would drive me insane if after all this time and all the effort to get tickets I was sat near a scrum of people all clapping along rhythmically and singing along at full-voice. If I were Kate Bush, I would decree no cameras, no standing, no singing along and clapping only at the end. Then I would kick everyone out and play to an empty hall, but project the performance on the surface of a flowing river.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:26 (five years ago) link

otm

Daphnis Celesta, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 13:30 (five years ago) link

I agree, but it was the last song of the show, so if it only happened then I'm kind of ok with it.

akm, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:04 (five years ago) link

I daresay both the clapping and singing along would have been less intrusive than it sounds on a shitty iPhone video.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:14 (five years ago) link

yes - it was only the last song and the PA totally overpowered any annoyance. the crowd were 99.9999% impeccable and friendly and great.

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 14:24 (five years ago) link

so who was in the band aside from David Rhodes?

akm, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:06 (five years ago) link

Superb write-up by Simon Price for The Quietus: http://thequietus.com/articles/16098-kate-bush-live-review

mike t-diva, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 15:07 (five years ago) link

man this is killing me :/

but it's just completely out of reach/possibility moneywise to even think of going to one of these

ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 16:42 (five years ago) link

I'm holding onto a sliver of hope that she comes stateside but it seems to be a pipe dream

LIKE If you are against racism (omar little), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 16:47 (five years ago) link

People I recognised in the band.

Omar Hakim (who was a bit 1988 with his overplaying at times)
John Giblin
Jon Carin
Maynard James Keenan

some other dudes

FML Threads (MaresNest), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 17:14 (five years ago) link

Omar Hakim – Drums
Mino Cinélu – Percussion
David Rhodes – Guitar
Friðrik Karlsson – Guitar
John Giblin – Bass
Jon Carin – Keyboards
Kevin McAlea – Keyboards
Jacqui Dubois – Backing vocals
Sandra Marvin – Backing vocals

Adrian Noble – Artistic/Theatre Director
Naná Vasconcelos – Musical Director
Basil Twist – Scenographer Chris Vaughan – Director (Workshop)
Derek Arnold – Puppeteer (Workshop)

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 19:32 (five years ago) link

Any idea who the performers/dancers were?

, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 20:37 (five years ago) link

most of them were the backing vocalists / bertie etc in different costumes. a small group playing a lot of different roles basically

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 21:32 (five years ago) link

"Maynard James Keenan" was this a joke ?

what's the setlist for tonight then?

akm, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:08 (five years ago) link

It's really inconceivable that the setlist will vary much if at all over the 22 nights, since it's apparently so set to staging, but who knows.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:33 (five years ago) link

Saw a report there was an extra thirty minutes tonight!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:36 (five years ago) link

Jeebus. Does she have another side-long suite she hasn't played yet?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:37 (five years ago) link

she just played extra slow

example (crüt), Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:39 (five years ago) link

the small 6 song section at the front and the two last songs are the only places variations could happen

jamiesummerz, Wednesday, 27 August 2014 22:59 (five years ago) link

seems like a blackout on today's show..

akm, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:14 (five years ago) link

setlist fm has the set listed as being the same as last night, for whatever that's worth.

piscesx, Thursday, 28 August 2014 00:42 (five years ago) link

I wonder if they'll release the rumored expanded Whole Story anthology now. Quite curious what the tracklisting would be.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 28 August 2014 01:35 (five years ago) link

not interested, but they might do some digital compilation now.

really hoping there's going to be a dvd of this, if not a livecast toward the end of the run. They did it for fucking monty python's turgid retirement, why not this?

akm, Thursday, 28 August 2014 04:27 (five years ago) link

This is the free newspaper that litters every morning bus and train in London and other metropolitan cities in the UK... The headline is entirely unsupported by the text. What a hopeless rag.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/27/kate-bush-comeback-hit-starved-fans-are-demanding-refunds-4848306/

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 August 2014 08:42 (five years ago) link

aren't Mint Royale some dweebs off Britain's Got Talent?

Daphnis Celesta, Thursday, 28 August 2014 08:49 (five years ago) link

hey, don't fault her

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 28 August 2014 08:52 (five years ago) link

Mint Royale had a hit single with Lauren Laverne a few years back (nice, NickB). It was a joke tweet ("Watchdog" being the consumer affairs TV show on BBC1). It's now a half-page splash in a national (free) newspaper about "angry fans demanding a refund".

Me, I'm just consoling myself that I'm not missing anything off The Dreaming.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 August 2014 08:58 (five years ago) link

Jon Carin – Keyboards

good for him! he went to my high school on lawn guyland. he was in this band with another high school dude before hitting the big time backing pink floyd & the who & everybody:

http://stylecouncillor.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/stranger.jpg

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 28 August 2014 11:04 (five years ago) link

John Giblin – Bass

^ has played on three UK no. 1 singles by three different artists iirc, none of whom were kate bush

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 28 August 2014 11:19 (five years ago) link

you can't hurry love, belfast child, lady in red fyi

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 28 August 2014 11:20 (five years ago) link

now there's a poll for you

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 28 August 2014 11:21 (five years ago) link

like "lady in red" needs to sweep another poll

Adding ease. Adding wonder. Adding (contenderizer), Thursday, 28 August 2014 11:26 (five years ago) link

Arthouse opportunity missed by not having Gabriel/Bush do a "Lady in Red" cover duet.

the one where, as balls alludes (Eazy), Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:00 (five years ago) link

There are still 20 shows.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 August 2014 13:10 (five years ago) link

Funnily enough, the last time I went to the Hammersmith Apollo, Peter Gabriel DID turn up and do a guest spot. It was with The Magnetic Fields in...2002?

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:29 (five years ago) link

Oh wait, that was the Lyric Theatre.

Still, same postcode. PG probably has a little bungalow round there.

Michael Jones, Thursday, 28 August 2014 14:32 (five years ago) link

i'd like to imagine him sneaking in the back of the venue and on to the stage whilst whispering the lyrics to Intruder to himself

jamiesummerz, Thursday, 28 August 2014 15:03 (five years ago) link

Omar Hakim – Drums
Mino Cinélu – Percussion
David Rhodes – Guitar
Friðrik Karlsson – Guitar
John Giblin – Bass
Jon Carin – Keyboards
Kevin McAlea – Keyboards
Jacqui Dubois – Backing vocals
Sandra Marvin – Backing vocals

Adrian Noble – Artistic/Theatre Director
Naná Vasconcelos – Musical Director
Basil Twist – Scenographer Chris Vaughan – Director (Workshop)
Derek Arnold – Puppeteer (Workshop)


This lineup reads like the Amnesty International house band ca. 1987.

Minus the puppeteer.

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 28 August 2014 23:23 (five years ago) link

Haha! Well - it's got strong ECM ties (Vasconcelos, Cinelu) and given KB has/had an affinity for ECM it's no surprise. If Eberhard Weber was able to play and be part of this crew...damnnnn.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 29 August 2014 02:24 (five years ago) link

David Rhodes is an interesting guy – was in a hugely underrated new wave band called Random Hold before becoming PG's guitarist

goth colouring book (anagram), Friday, 29 August 2014 05:40 (five years ago) link

basil twist is fucking awesome btw, would love to see what he's doing with this

Still find it vaguely hilarious that Carin plays in both Gilmour's and Waters' bands

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 29 August 2014 08:14 (five years ago) link

Fridrik Karlsson was in in Mezzoforte...an in demand session guitarist now...who remembers this 80's classic

http://youtu.be/gmSDTutGyIw

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 29 August 2014 12:29 (five years ago) link

Funny I could see KB dancing to that at the wrap party for 'The Dreaming'...

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Friday, 29 August 2014 12:33 (five years ago) link

old british man doesn't much care for kate bush, news at 11

clouds, Friday, 29 August 2014 18:52 (five years ago) link

that's what I thought, but I looked him up and he was born in 1967!

soref, Friday, 29 August 2014 18:53 (five years ago) link

if you h8 k8 yr soul is old and decrepit

clouds, Friday, 29 August 2014 18:59 (five years ago) link

his allmusic credits don't include 50 Words for Snow, although they do include the Aiden Grimshaw album

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/bill-hawkes-mn0000212207/credits

soref, Friday, 29 August 2014 19:06 (five years ago) link

The credits for 50 Words for Snow just mention an orchestra with no names named

goth colouring book (anagram), Friday, 29 August 2014 20:04 (five years ago) link

hired plain, with no names mentioned

clouds, Friday, 29 August 2014 20:09 (five years ago) link

haha

sleeve, Friday, 29 August 2014 20:11 (five years ago) link

load of old bill hawkes

john wahey (NickB), Friday, 29 August 2014 20:20 (five years ago) link

I enjoyed that Bill Hawkes' letter - it was refreshing in the face of what we've heard over the past month. I like KB well enough but "obsequious, unquestioning critical acclaim heaped upon this manifestly overrated singer" is pretty otm and I do rate her. She's good, but ffs she ain't that good!

Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Saturday, 30 August 2014 02:46 (five years ago) link

yes she is.

clouds, Saturday, 30 August 2014 03:16 (five years ago) link

we don't need a KB backlash, thanks tho

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 30 August 2014 07:59 (five years ago) link

she is that good, but some of the fanwank is a bit wanky tbf

Daphnis Celesta, Saturday, 30 August 2014 08:30 (five years ago) link

The latter is just 'classical musician doesn't really rate pop musician pt-10000000000000000' rather than 'speaking truth to power' but I'm pretty sure there are some really annoying fans at those gigs.

Matt DC, Saturday, 30 August 2014 10:16 (five years ago) link

Balanescu quartet's repertoire is straight up garbage.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 30 August 2014 10:32 (five years ago) link

I have to admit I didn't check anywhere else but here, but are there still no reviews from the later shows?

ArchCarrier, Saturday, 30 August 2014 11:14 (five years ago) link

Most publications will only review the first night of any performance or series of gigs.

goth colouring book (anagram), Saturday, 30 August 2014 11:55 (five years ago) link

First night is up on d1m3 if anybody is interested.

FML Threads (MaresNest), Saturday, 30 August 2014 12:28 (five years ago) link

Any chance that will make it outside of dimadozen any time soon?

ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 30 August 2014 12:30 (five years ago) link

If the mods would let a wetransfer link on the thread, maybe

FML Threads (MaresNest), Saturday, 30 August 2014 12:36 (five years ago) link

assume it'll be on slsk eventually

akm, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:03 (five years ago) link

if anyone still uses that

akm, Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:03 (five years ago) link

slsk is quietly still really good

Simon H., Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:10 (five years ago) link

Links are out there on some blogs but unfortunately all are dead as a doornail. Wonder if she's got a Prince-like anti-bootleg radar on now.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 August 2014 16:16 (five years ago) link

old british man doesn't much care for kate bush old british woman, news at 11

Now I Am Become Dracula (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:08 (five years ago) link

I did wonder if there was likely to be any of it appearing anywhere. I now have the 1st night playing so wonder if any others are going to appear. I think this is pretty obviously an audience recording, sounds pretty clear but has a very enthusiastic crowd audible.

Stevolende, Saturday, 30 August 2014 17:49 (five years ago) link

Steveolende would love to hear it!

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 August 2014 22:03 (five years ago) link

It's on Dime. Does sound pretty good though.

Stevolende, Saturday, 30 August 2014 22:21 (five years ago) link

& Dime's worth getting onto if you get the chance to.

Stevolende, Saturday, 30 August 2014 22:23 (five years ago) link

They don't allow anyone to sign up right now, is the problem.

ambient yacht god (Le Bateau Ivre), Saturday, 30 August 2014 22:23 (five years ago) link

Oh right, I thought it was a question of persistence. Certainly was when I joined. Having to keep going back over a period of several hours and try again. After being initially told that there were no places at the moment.
Has that changed?

Just struck me that it would take far less time to get copies from that source than having to wait for a copy to come through the post etc

Stevolende, Saturday, 30 August 2014 22:47 (five years ago) link

Found links. thanks

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 August 2014 22:55 (five years ago) link

2nd Night up too, I'm told

FML Threads (MaresNest), Sunday, 31 August 2014 10:53 (five years ago) link

Yeah, just found a load of early demoes are up there too. & several dates from the '79 tour. Including an Xmas special video from Birmingham.

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 August 2014 12:24 (five years ago) link

Hearing her do "And Dream Of Sheep" is just... This first night recording sounds great, btw. Fantastic for an audience recording.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 31 August 2014 12:31 (five years ago) link

Listening to Night 2 now and noticing her voice is more confident in the first few songs compared come to Night 1. Beautiful witchy energy. LOVE

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 31 August 2014 17:00 (five years ago) link

Also - an amazing audience recording. Technology sure has moved on haha

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 31 August 2014 17:01 (five years ago) link

*SPOILER*

One of the things I loved is the Gregorian part in Hello Earth that they looped about 5 times at the end, while she was carried off stage into the audience by the fish skeleton people.

MaresNest, Sunday, 31 August 2014 17:27 (five years ago) link

dear god i wish i was there to see that

owe me the shmoney (m bison), Sunday, 31 August 2014 17:31 (five years ago) link

Georgian not gregorian (/pedant)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsintskaro

I love that piece. Looking forward to hearing these bootlegs.

Milton Parker, Sunday, 31 August 2014 18:37 (five years ago) link

Wow, thanks for that — I had no idea that wasn't original to her song.

Øystein, Sunday, 31 August 2014 18:51 (five years ago) link

Whoops, indeed, hardly pedantry when faced with such brazen wrongness :)

MaresNest, Sunday, 31 August 2014 19:30 (five years ago) link

There are four version on Spotify, one of which sounds like it was recorded in an aviary and uses female voices, it's lovely

MaresNest, Sunday, 31 August 2014 19:55 (five years ago) link

Wow. Always thought this was recorded by Popol Vuh for "Nosferatu". Never knew its origins.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 31 August 2014 20:59 (five years ago) link

love that song and georgian male choir music in general

the other song about butts in the top 5 (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 August 2014 22:00 (five years ago) link

I used to have a cassette on the Touch label of Soviet-era choral music. I just found the sleevenotes on the web:

"In 1932, a group from the remote town of Pik Grandiosnyy, situated in the Vostochnyy Sayan near the Mongolian border, set out to escape the Great Famine and headed west. Having eaten their livestock, the villagers were forced to walk; the journey would take two years. This collection represents some of the songs they sang on their way."

I think of Schnittke's Choir Concerto too.

Michael Jones, Sunday, 31 August 2014 22:11 (five years ago) link

11 albums in the top 50 album chart this week.

http://www.officialcharts.com/albums-chart/

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 31 August 2014 22:20 (five years ago) link

I'm going tonight. I don't think I've been this excited about a gig since I was a teenager.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 14:52 (five years ago) link

Going Saturday. I, much to my surprise, haven't got excited at all.

Unlike my son, who got so into it he became an information source for the Mirror and the Guardian on the first night DESPITE NOT EVEN BEING THERE. He's as excited as an excited thing about Saturday.

and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 15:30 (five years ago) link

THAT WAS SO GOOD.

Like, I was prepared for it to be great but nowhere near as surprising and astonishing as that.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 22:52 (five years ago) link

Fucking incredible. So glad I avoided this thread & had no idea what was in store. The 2nd half was exactly what I was praying it would be, and executed better than I could have hoped. Jamie otm, so many ear-to-ear grins

kick yr eyeballs (wins), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 23:01 (five years ago) link

Had to love the unofficial merch guy outside selling BEFORE THE DOWN posters for £2 :-D

kick yr eyeballs (wins), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 23:02 (five years ago) link

incredible show. her voice is in such fine shape

lol @ all the concern trollers upthread who thought it'd all be too much for her

lex pretend, Tuesday, 2 September 2014 23:28 (five years ago) link

Ha yes

kick yr eyeballs (wins), Tuesday, 2 September 2014 23:56 (five years ago) link

I feel like week one of a really long engagement is maybe not quite time to judge ykno

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 3 September 2014 08:54 (five years ago) link

You're right, I withdraw my earlier praise & will reserve judgement on the show until all the data is in

smithery loves cuntery (wins), Wednesday, 3 September 2014 09:44 (five years ago) link

-_-

♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Wednesday, 3 September 2014 10:09 (five years ago) link

That was pretty great overall, but personally I thought the Ninth Wave was a bit too actor-y for me and I didn't enjoy the final song at all - way too umpty-tum for my taste. The main part of the second half was astonishingly good though, and the new part to it just made it even more prog (which is of course no bad thing).

and she's crying in a stairwell in Devon (aldo), Saturday, 6 September 2014 23:09 (five years ago) link

prayers answered and all that:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/sep/11/kate-bush-to-release-dvd-of-london-comeback-shows

john wahey (NickB), Thursday, 11 September 2014 08:51 (five years ago) link

I will confess that the staging of the end of the Ninth Wave did remind me of that bit in Zelda where all the characters come to greet you on the beach and start dancing around.

Matt DC, Thursday, 11 September 2014 08:58 (five years ago) link

Went on Friday. Was in more or less the worst seats in the house* but that was incredible, the second half especially. Emotionally drained after it. A Sky of Honey seemed to end up somewhere much darker than the record.

*back of the circle under some house lights that stayed on. Gave us a good view of anyone slipping off to the loo, arriving late, etc. Special shout out to the couple leaving about a minute before the end of The Ninth Wave, during the Georgian fish-bone-head funeral procession.

woof, Monday, 22 September 2014 16:27 (five years ago) link

nine months pass...

Anyone read Graeme Thompson's Kate bio? Saw it used today and thought about picking it up.

Wimmels, Friday, 3 July 2015 20:28 (four years ago) link

/hijack thread revival
Apparently there is 2 versions of the Red Shoes album. The good version is one of my favorite albums. Seriously underrated album. I skip to the end of the first track though.

The Once-ler, Friday, 3 July 2015 23:20 (four years ago) link

Not the very end. I still listen to the weird experimental section of rubberband girl.

The Once-ler, Friday, 3 July 2015 23:24 (four years ago) link

which is the good version? there was a remastered one that came out with director's cut box, which I haven't heard but does it really sound any different beyond some mastering changes?

akm, Saturday, 4 July 2015 02:14 (four years ago) link

Just finished the Thompson bio. Liked it very much. Lots of detail re: recording. It's worth picking up for sure.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 4 July 2015 02:46 (four years ago) link

The 2011 remaster is the one I'm most familiar with.
Honestly, I don't know if it's much different than the original - but boy did that original get a lot of hate back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ivkVwIG9Q
only 480p but here you go

The Once-ler, Saturday, 4 July 2015 02:53 (four years ago) link

Maybe I've just always assumed there are 2 versions since I don't really know what the haters are listening to

The Once-ler, Saturday, 4 July 2015 03:47 (four years ago) link

Only 480p? But I want to watch that album artwork in 720p!

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 5 July 2015 16:26 (four years ago) link

480p is typically 128kbps stereo, albeit comparable to something better because YouTube down samples quite well. With 720p and higher you can usually expect 192kbps or higher stereo AAC quality

The Once-ler, Sunday, 5 July 2015 19:41 (four years ago) link

I got the Rob Jovanovic bio last year in the Google Play store, but it's still there laying dormant. I'm pretty much a non-fan of Jovanovic, unluckily he's the only one writing bios of some of my favorite groups. I've already had to endure his books on Big Star and Pavement.

cpl593H, Tuesday, 7 July 2015 12:41 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

did we never talk about the fact that those live shows contained a very long interlude about sausages

oh, amazonaws (wins), Saturday, 25 June 2016 13:54 (three years ago) link

the film of this is never coming out, is it

akm, Saturday, 25 June 2016 15:19 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Kate Bush live album from 2014 shows to be released

Tracklist:

01. ‘Lily’
02. ‘Hounds Of Love’
03. ‘Joanni’
04. ‘Top Of The City’
05. ‘Never Be Mine’
06. ‘Running Up That Hill’
07. ‘King Of The Mountain’
08. ‘The Astronomer’s Call’
09. ‘And Dream Of Sheep’
10. ‘Under Ice’
11. ‘Waking The Witch’
12. ‘Watching Them Without Her’
13. ‘Watching You Without Me’
14. ‘Little Light’
15. ‘Jig Of Life’
16. ‘Hello Earth’
17. ‘This Morning Fog’
18. ‘Prelude’
19. ‘Prologue’
20. ‘An Architect’s Dream’
21. ‘The Painter’s Link’
22. ‘Sunset’
23. ‘Aerial Tal’
24. ‘Somewhere In Between’
25. ‘Tawny Moon’
26. ‘Nocturn’
27. ‘Aerial’
28. ‘Among Angels’
29. ‘Cloudbusting’

the tightening is plateauing (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 29 September 2016 11:40 (three years ago) link

did we never talk about the fact that those live shows contained a very long interlude about sausages

Mädchester Amick (wins), Thursday, 29 September 2016 12:24 (three years ago) link

nice, but I thought they filmed it and were gonna release a video?

erry red flag (f. hazel), Thursday, 29 September 2016 17:21 (three years ago) link

Been listening to two boots from the first couple of nights for a while now. I skip the silly "comedic" interludes w/ her kid but the rest is so great. Looking forward to this release.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 30 September 2016 02:20 (three years ago) link

there is video on youtube, which I haven't watched yet, of entire shows

akm, Friday, 30 September 2016 02:40 (three years ago) link

But I imagine that is not an official recording?

Chewshabadoo, Friday, 30 September 2016 05:42 (three years ago) link

Prologue from this is really fantastic, extended to twice the length of the studio version with a completely new section. it's a real shame they're not releasing the video though.

ufo, Friday, 30 September 2016 06:23 (three years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

live album is quite a nice piece. really wish i'd been there.

akm, Sunday, 27 November 2016 17:12 (two years ago) link

eight months pass...

Suspended in gaffa is one of the best songs I've ever heard

Treeship, Friday, 4 August 2017 13:00 (two years ago) link

three months pass...

best artist ever, no one will ever come close

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 13 November 2017 01:54 (two years ago) link

did it really turn out she was a tory/brexiter? that would bum me out so much

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 November 2017 17:10 (two years ago) link

she came out as a supporter of Theresa May/Tory, yeah.

Week of Wonders (Ross), Monday, 13 November 2017 19:04 (two years ago) link

Wasn't her Thatcher and May support limited to her appreciation of there being women in politics? And confessing she didn't really follow politics?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 13 November 2017 20:19 (two years ago) link

Yes.

She also sang "Ken" about Ken Livingstone, a bunch of years ago.

Mark G, Monday, 13 November 2017 20:29 (two years ago) link

dang...well..she seems pretty uppercrust i guess :/

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 November 2017 20:37 (two years ago) link

Person from Bexleyheath in Tory support shocker.

Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Monday, 13 November 2017 20:41 (two years ago) link

Kate Bush - Ken
United States Of America - Love Song For The Dead Ché
Morrissey - Last Of The Famous International Playboys

New thread - people who don't deserve good tribute songs.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 13 November 2017 20:46 (two years ago) link

The love of Richard Nixon..

Mark G, Monday, 13 November 2017 21:13 (two years ago) link

nine months pass...

If anyone's interested, I write a blog on Kate's music song-by-song: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/08/01/the-man-with-the-child-in-his-eyes/

ballardiangorse, Saturday, 1 September 2018 21:58 (one year ago) link

awesome thanks!

The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 1 September 2018 23:00 (one year ago) link

Nice!

yes, said (Ross), Sunday, 2 September 2018 05:19 (one year ago) link

Caught up with, and RSSed for future posts -- thanks! :-D

anatol_merklich, Monday, 3 September 2018 22:46 (one year ago) link

two weeks pass...

Oh, I don't believe I linked this, but here's my most recent blog post. My "Violin" essay should be up next week. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/08/22/pick-the-rare-flower-on-fire-inside-a-snowball-so-soft-neverthless-youll-do-stranded-at-the-moonbase/

ballardiangorse, Tuesday, 18 September 2018 22:59 (one year ago) link

Wow good work

Ross, Wednesday, 19 September 2018 04:52 (one year ago) link

Kate Bush photo book is very very expensive. Cant do it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 22 September 2018 10:02 (one year ago) link

Guess I'll keep sharing these until someone tells me not to (and even then...). Here's the story of Kate Bush inventing folk punk: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/09/26/violin/

ballardiangorse, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:39 (one year ago) link

keep sharing these, thanks!

milkshake duck george bernard shaw (rushomancy), Wednesday, 26 September 2018 13:47 (one year ago) link

A total vanity project, this book, as was the Scott Walker one. I won’t be getting it, and it won’t be getting this fan, for sure.

Max Florian, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 14:14 (one year ago) link

i read elsewhere there was a rumor of another huge box set next year of all her work. I'd probably splurge for it again.

akm, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 19:18 (one year ago) link

would love get repressings of some of her 80's work individually

octobeard, Wednesday, 26 September 2018 21:41 (one year ago) link

Remasters and B sides comps and such!

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/kate-bush-announces-remastered-albums-in-a-series-of-box-sets/

piscesx, Thursday, 4 October 2018 12:20 (one year ago) link

shut up and take my money, etc

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 4 October 2018 12:23 (one year ago) link

otm

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 4 October 2018 12:26 (one year ago) link

90 per vinyl box set seems a bit steep tbh

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 4 October 2018 12:26 (one year ago) link

Still baffling IMO that there hasn't been a classic Greatest Hits/Best of/Gold type thing. The Whole Story was 30 years ago!

piscesx, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:28 (one year ago) link

12" remix disc with only like 30 minutes of music on it that omits numerous tracks = DUD

sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:31 (one year ago) link

Poor public service - she's definitely a Tory

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:44 (one year ago) link

LOL

sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:49 (one year ago) link

the cover art is hilariously gross

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 October 2018 14:51 (one year ago) link

Will these be sold seprately? I’ve been looking for a hounds of love reissue that doesn’t cost $100+

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:19 (one year ago) link

you'll pay $520 for the entire collection on vinyl and like it

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:29 (one year ago) link

The albums are also being released separately, but not the four rarities discs in the boxes (what did you expect?).

sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:29 (one year ago) link

Awesome! Hopefully they don’t surpass the $30 dollar tag. It’s as much as I’m willing to pay.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 4 October 2018 15:36 (one year ago) link

Overall, it's kinda a disappointing collection for longtime fans. If you're doing an 11-disc box set and asking over $100 for it, why not make it a 12-disc and give your fans all the b-sides, remixes, and ephemera instead of leaving it incomplete? Why not throw in a blu-ray with all the videos, Live at the Hammersmith, and the Line, the Cross, and the Curve?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

otm

sleeve, Thursday, 4 October 2018 17:59 (one year ago) link

Bit mystified by this 100 dollar hounds of love reissue tbh, you can get a near mint copy off discogs for 10 euros

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:17 (one year ago) link

The ideal would have been something like the Purple Rain reissue which was clearly being aimed squarely at the non-casual fan; triple CDs of rarities, live films, offcuts and outtakes. This is more like a reissue from some time in the late 90s.

piscesx, Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:23 (one year ago) link

other than video stuff, the This Woman's Work box set was pretty comprehensive at the time!

the $100 Hounds of Love vinyl reissue was one of those MFSL kinda things that cost like $50 new to begin with, are limited runs, so instantly costs $100 on the secondary market... the original vinyl pressing sounds great, so just snag one of those in good condition for $10-15 like Colonel Poo suggests

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 October 2018 18:34 (one year ago) link

if you can find a mint original then that's true. the audio fidelity issue (which is the one I have) sounds great though. didn't know it was going for that much these days.

I'm torn on this. part of me wants this even though I have all of these except for Aerial and Red Shoes so I really should buy just those; plus, why in god's name didn't she include Not This Time? Ken I can do without but Not This Time is one of her absolute best b-sides.

could probably fund this if I sold my This Woman's Work CD box which TBH sits unplayed on a shelf. Maybe I will. Dunno.

akm, Thursday, 4 October 2018 20:38 (one year ago) link

the cover art is hilariously gross

Specific to the first CD box, apparently. People are saying elsewhere that vinyl is her preferred format, so I wonder if this weird nightmare variation on a Penguin Cafe Orchestra cover is her The Rich Man's 8-Track Tape statement, but kicking the format when it's down (on a rolling office chair, no less — CDs as office products?) rather than in the ascendant. The CD faces appear to all say "YISH P∑QPL∑." But the second CD box (more desirable for the rarities, less for the albums, probably) doesn't repeat this mutation motif. I think as a prospective purchaser of the first CD box (I have the first five LPs on sometimes worn vinyl copies), I feel a little insulted.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:02 (one year ago) link

The bizarre Fish People artwork has been around since Director's Cut. I doubt it's Kate throwing shade at CD buyers; I guess she honestly thinks it looks good.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:27 (one year ago) link

Wish she'd have done a deluxe reissue series like Jethro Tull has been doing, whatever your feelings about their music are, their deluxe editions are fantastic.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:38 (one year ago) link

The bizarre Fish People artwork has been around since Director's Cut. I doubt it's Kate throwing shade at CD buyers; I guess she honestly thinks it looks good.

Didn't know this, cheers.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:57 (one year ago) link

Hey, since Bush is putting out some old demos, why not read about a few more of hers? https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/10/17/255/

ballardiangorse, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:21 (one year ago) link

anyone ever see that video where the delius associate hears the track from NFE and says that delius wouldnt have liked it, lol

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:33 (one year ago) link

To be honest her album covers have never been very interesting or good looking.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:50 (one year ago) link

uh what

lol

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:50 (one year ago) link

the dreaming is absolutely a beautiful cover, as is NVE

Ross, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 15:51 (one year ago) link

wait what? her album covers are all-time, as is the artwork for the singles:

https://www.katebushencyclopedia.com/sites/default/files/2017-08/symphony_in_blue.jpg

we could have a poll just on her cover art!

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:00 (one year ago) link

Hahaha I don’t like the style sorry. The Dreaming is really good though that’s my favorite album cover from her.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 16:14 (one year ago) link

four weeks pass...

Any fans of Oh To Be In Love here? https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/11/14/oh-to-be-in-love/

ballardiangorse, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 15:01 (one year ago) link

yes I like that song a lot

holy shit at dolphin cover.

akm, Wednesday, 14 November 2018 20:08 (one year ago) link

The last batch of demos, on Joan of Arc, Gala Dali, and lesbian vampires: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/11/21/carmilla-where-are-the-lionhearts-dali-while-davy-dozed-frightened-eyes-organic-acid/

ballardiangorse, Thursday, 22 November 2018 01:03 (eleven months ago) link

Has anyone bought the remasters on vinyl?

The Poppy Bush AutoZone (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 November 2018 02:01 (eleven months ago) link

not yet but I will be doing over the next few months. reports are good.

akm, Thursday, 22 November 2018 21:33 (eleven months ago) link

weird promo for the remasters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkcJR-EV1Uc

piscesx, Thursday, 22 November 2018 22:50 (eleven months ago) link

Listened to all up to The Sensual World. Tye most impressive to me has been "Never For Ever" - it just sounds a bit more expansive in the right places. As for the rest I didn't notice any overwhelming improvement. "The Sensual World" is still a slog to get through.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 22 November 2018 23:29 (eleven months ago) link

The Sensual World is the one where the world finally catches up with Kate. She never completely escapes that afterwards

ballardiangorse, Friday, 30 November 2018 12:53 (eleven months ago) link

Oh, I wrote some words on Hammer Horror, femininity, and the Gothic for those interested: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/11/30/hammer-horror/

ballardiangorse, Friday, 30 November 2018 12:53 (eleven months ago) link

I love the Sensual World. Still don't understand why everyone doesn't.

akm, Friday, 30 November 2018 14:30 (eleven months ago) link

Yeah my fave of hers (alongside HoL)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 30 November 2018 14:57 (eleven months ago) link

I feel there's 1-2 songs on Sensual World that drag it down a bit compared to the previous three records, but the highs are as high as any of her work. That "mmmmmm yesss" gets me every. fucking. time.

octobeard, Saturday, 1 December 2018 09:52 (eleven months ago) link

Too many chunky rawk guitars and a claustrophobic mix. The title track is fine as is "This Woman's Work" but it's the album where she went from an idiosyncratic, often visionary sound on the three previous albums ( I like the first two fine but they're just stepping stones) into a disappointing ( for me ) MOR direction.

An Uphill Battle For Legumes (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 1 December 2018 13:14 (eleven months ago) link

I'd recommend giving this remaster a listen if you find the mix claustrophobic. I've always liked the sound and mix of this album and I think there are more chunky rawk guitars on Red Shoes and even on Never Forever personally; but the remaster really gives this album some more space and light. I think I've given most everything a listen digitally now. I did order the first vinyl box and will relent and get the other three as my bank account allows.

akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:27 (eleven months ago) link

though Director's Cut doesn't necessarily sound any better and still seems wholly unnecessary to me.

akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:29 (eleven months ago) link

Also: she swapped out the Big Sky on Hounds of Love with the single mix, which I was worried about until I realized this wasn't the extended mix; there's just some added keyboard in the background at the beginning which after a few listens I have to say I prefer to the original.

Also: ditched Rolf Harris on Aerial for her son. Also an improvement, I think.

akm, Thursday, 6 December 2018 03:39 (eleven months ago) link

anyone find Aerial on vinyl in the US? (not the box, the standalone version).

akm, Thursday, 13 December 2018 23:21 (eleven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Kate would like to clarify something for you all

http://www.katebush.com/news/clarification

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:46 (ten months ago) link

"Again with no response from me to the latest resurfacing of this article, it could make it seem like I am a tory supporter which I want to make clear I am not."

Undying love restored.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:58 (ten months ago) link

lol i knew she was lib dem all along

my name is leee john, for we are many (NickB), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 18:59 (ten months ago) link

lmao

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:04 (ten months ago) link

It's highly unlikely that one writes a song like 'Breathing' and then becomes a Torycan.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 19:33 (ten months ago) link

did people genuinely think she was a Tory?

like I've seen some people being all "so relieved!!11!!one" on Facebook and I'm like... did you ever listen to anything she's ever done and think this was the work of someone who would lean that way politically?

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:02 (ten months ago) link

If you read the article at that time, of course people genuinely thought she was a Tory. She basically said so (something she now retracts).

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:16 (ten months ago) link

I mean, the original quote was just along the lines of "it's wonderful to have a woman in charge" which is a sentiment I've heard fairly often from people, generally older, moderate-ish women, who would not otherwise say they support the Tory and/or Republican party if phrased that way

theorizing your yells (katherine), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:18 (ten months ago) link

"We have a female prime minister here in the UK. I actually really like her and think she’s wonderful. I think it’s the best thing that’s happened to us in a long time. She’s a very intelligent woman but I don’t see much to fear. I will say it is great to have a woman in charge of the country. She’s very sensible and I think that’s a good thing at this point in time."

Yes, it is about a woman being in charge. But in the context of Brexit and British politics as a whole, this reads as a strong endorsement if there ever was one.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:25 (ten months ago) link

I had forgot about the "I actually really like her" part - it's still not an outright admittance but it's not exactly great is it

still, I think it's easy enough to overlook - if you could only listen to artists whose politics align with yours and behave in a way you approve, you would drive yourself crazy eliminating artists from your interests

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:37 (ten months ago) link

did people genuinely think she was a Tory?

yes, it was referenced a lot on this site

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:40 (ten months ago) link

lol I skimmed that part because I thought it was just hype for the reissues - I'm not a massive fan tbh but the way certain corners for the music press and fans acted you'd think she had renounced her career and not just, y'know, made some very questionable political choices

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:42 (ten months ago) link

ffs I am a fan of Kim Campbell despite her being a Tory and having done a really bad job

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 22:43 (ten months ago) link

still, I think it's easy enough to overlook - if you could only listen to artists whose politics align with yours and behave in a way you approve, you would drive yourself crazy eliminating artists from your interests

― boxedjoy, Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:37 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No-one's saying we can only listen to artists whose politics align with ours. But for KB to say May is "wonderful", "best thing to happen to Britain"... Tell that to my friends struggling under Tory command.

I've enough dealing with still listening to and enjoying Death in June and a boatload of black metal bands and other pricks. I didn't need KB added to the mix, so I'm glad she clarified the matter, albeit two years later.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:00 (ten months ago) link

oh don't get me wrong, it's disappointing on a personal level - but I don't think it's difficult to seperate the art from the artist in this instance. I don't know exactly where you can draw the line: I can't listen to "Ignition (Remix)" without thinking of what a predator R Kelly has turned out to be but Bush having a vague support for May seemingly based on superficial levels of vague feminism doesn't ruin "Running Up That Hill" for me

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:05 (ten months ago) link

Honestly: I draw a hypocritical, morally completely arbitrary line that somehow works for myself. I won't listen to Burzum anymore (but it wasn't that good anyway). But there is music where my love for it is stronger than my denouncing of the artist who made it. Which goes for every art form. And I'm ok with that.

Being under the impression for two years that Bush was a Tory didn't stop me from listening to/loving her music. But I am glad she addressed it, better late than never.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:10 (ten months ago) link

yeah there are definitely artists/songs where the grey area makes me feel uncomfortable, something like "Vogue" counts as a proper Guilty Pleasure in that I enjoy it but feel guilty because of the ~baggage~ it brings

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:13 (ten months ago) link

and I don't think anyone can be criticised over where they draw their own lines on this stuff

boxedjoy, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:13 (ten months ago) link

Wait, Madonna's 'Vogue'?! What baggage does that bring, if any?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:18 (ten months ago) link

Having revived this thread I will say it was very nice to get both remastered boxes over the holidays -- for free, in essence. (One was a slightly unexpected promo, the other was via Amoeba store credit.)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:21 (ten months ago) link

xp https://genius.com/Dj-sprinkles-ballr-madonna-free-zone-lyrics

lowercase (eric), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:25 (ten months ago) link

Yeah, the boxes put an enjoyable dent in my xmas bonus. They look and sound really good. Especially been enjoying the Aerial reissue.

xp

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:26 (ten months ago) link

xp Thanks Eric, I had sort of forgotten about that but I'm fully team Sprinkles.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 8 January 2019 23:27 (ten months ago) link

I've enough dealing with still listening to and enjoying Death in June and a boatload of black metal bands and other pricks. I didn't need KB added to the mix, so I'm glad she clarified the matter, albeit two years later.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, January 8, 2019 6:00 PM (five hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Ok, she was never at risk of turning out to be a nazi.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:12 (ten months ago) link

Like at worst she was just sort of not interested in politics and wanted to show solidarity with a female PM. She never campaigned for Brexit and she didn’t burn down any churches.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:17 (ten months ago) link

that you know of

omar little, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:31 (ten months ago) link

Just one man's opinion but Varg did, you know, brutally murder another human being which is kind of a big deal!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:34 (ten months ago) link

I mean it's almost as bad as making one muddled and clueless political comment in an interview once in a 40+ year career

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 04:36 (ten months ago) link

This strikes me as a consequence of the journalist, whoever they were, failing to adequately follow up on that answer or press her for clarification or challenge her.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 09:53 (ten months ago) link

Kate Bush did 9/11

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:04 (ten months ago) link

irl giggle

sans lep (sic), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:08 (ten months ago) link

""We have a female prime minister here in the UK. I actually really like her and think she’s wonderful. I think it’s the best thing that’s happened to us in a long time."

that is quite a weird thing for someone to say in a country that had Margaret Thatcher as PM for 10 years tbh

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:16 (ten months ago) link

iirc there were a couple of seasoned political hacks at the Graun - with no naivety card to play. Making similar ridiculous statements about May in her first few weeks of this golden premiership of the ages. K Bush probably is a Tory twat, albeit a bit of a muddled posho cryptoTory type one - but tbf to her she isn't exactly A L Webber jetting over from NYC to try and help Gideon's evil tax credit cuts through the House of Lords.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 10:52 (ten months ago) link

xpost I was thinking the exact same thing. The second most famous PM of the 20th century was female and a right-wing asshole. And not that long ago!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:48 (ten months ago) link

Tbf, Thatcher covered Tour Of Life era through to Comic Strip: GLC-soundtrack, so KB was pretty busy. She likely didn't notice who was PM.

Michael Jones, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 12:51 (ten months ago) link

Yes, let's not forget the Ken Livingstone tribute song..

Mark G, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:05 (ten months ago) link

I'm sure there is a ton of nuance I'm missing because I'm American, but Kate Bush has always screamed "eccentric out of touch rich lady who putters around the garden of her estate" so I guess I'm not super shocked she's mildly conservative leaning but probably moreso just disengaged with the real world having afaict raised privileged, super successful at a young age

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:35 (ten months ago) link

I still wouldn't be surprised if she was on the hippy end of Brexit. But that's OK.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:41 (ten months ago) link

ums otm, when this originally came up someone on ilx said something funny like “how surprising that a prog rock musician who lives in an actual castle might be a bit Tory”

Pierrot with a thousand farces (wins), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 13:43 (ten months ago) link

Was her upbringing that privileged? She was born in Bexleyheath, grew up near Welling, neither of which are exactly 'posh', and she went to a grammar school.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:12 (ten months ago) link

everyone in Britain is privileged and muddled, you can't judge us

ogmor, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:22 (ten months ago) link

she's probably no posher than, say, Ed Sheeran

I can't dérive fifty-feev (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:26 (ten months ago) link

How is poshness measured? Grams?

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:29 (ten months ago) link

Grauns

I can't dérive fifty-feev (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:31 (ten months ago) link

I think we have a tendency to overestimate the extent to which other people, particularly famous people, actually think about politics and in particular I don't trust pop stars to make much sense when talking about it. Obvious glaring contradictions in their public pronouncements and worldview are part of that.

She was also raised Catholic which wasn't exactly a gateway drug to Tory support in the 70s and 80s.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:32 (ten months ago) link

(And Irish Catholic at that)

Matt DC, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:34 (ten months ago) link

yeah but her English dad was a doctor and she grew up in farmhouse. I don't think he'd have been getting the accordion out after a skinful and singing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me and then falling asleep in a puddle of his own piss! Posh is relative of course and she might be considered common as muck by some standards.

calzino, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:48 (ten months ago) link

I don't think he'd have been getting the accordion out after a skinful and singing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me and then falling asleep in a puddle of his own piss!

coffee through the nose lols at this

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:51 (ten months ago) link

I won’t be commenting further on this, but feel it’s become so pervasive that I felt I needed to clarify this matter once and for all: my father did get the accordion out after a skinful and sing Wrap The Green Flag Around Me then fell asleep in a puddle of his own piss.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:54 (ten months ago) link

:D

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:55 (ten months ago) link

poor muddled kate, a prisoner to her castle, early success, and irish catholic mother, she must find it a terrible struggle to think clearly about anything at all

ogmor, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:56 (ten months ago) link

That'll be the concept for her next performance run. "The Ninth Wave (of a Piss Puddle)"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:56 (ten months ago) link

as i consider conservatism to be a psychosocial derangement which becomes increasingly common with age (and wealth) i didn't find it hard to conclude that kate bush was probably a tory (as i'm not british, i don't look at things through the lens of class and/or essential nature)

i also don't find it hard to conclude that she's not, on the grounds that she's said she's not

errang (rushomancy), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 14:59 (ten months ago) link

'only the british are essentialists', v good

ogmor, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:15 (ten months ago) link

omg calzino that post killed me

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:24 (ten months ago) link

"I've enough dealing with still listening to and enjoying Death in June and a boatload of black metal bands and other pricks. I didn't need KB added to the mix,"

dude listening to and supporting Death in June is fucking WAY WORSE than anything KB may have said/thought.

akm, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 15:51 (ten months ago) link

You don't say. I said that in the context of my personal (hypocritical) red line. The attempted humor of that line clearly got lost.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:00 (ten months ago) link

Yeah it definitely did. I thought u were saying kate bush was a varg type character which seemed ludicrous.

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:11 (ten months ago) link

I like to think Kate Bush is reading this thread and it's made the whole thing worthwhile for her.

Alba, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:13 (ten months ago) link

Um, not cool to dox me

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 16:14 (ten months ago) link

I wrote about how the price of gay acceptance in Kate's work is heterosexual pleasure: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/01/09/kashka-from-baghdad/

ballardiangorse, Wednesday, 9 January 2019 19:58 (ten months ago) link

Oh. Followup: I also wrote about The Kick Inside. Next up is Wuthering Heights. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/01/14/the-kick-inside/

ballardiangorse, Monday, 14 January 2019 17:08 (ten months ago) link

one month passes...

those are some short CDs!

sold out in presale (sleeve), Friday, 22 February 2019 19:45 (eight months ago) link

That's pretty nice, we can snag the rarities if we don't want to shell out again for all the remastered albums from the box set... why does she hate Ken so much though?

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 22 February 2019 22:27 (eight months ago) link

why does she hate Ken so much though?

Maybe just changed her mind about him over time?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 February 2019 22:32 (eight months ago) link

Maybe she'll include it on her upcoming disc of tracks she recorded for Fruitopia commercials

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 22 February 2019 22:39 (eight months ago) link

why does she hate Ken so much though?

if you mean "why isn't 'Ken' on her rarities sets," the rights are probably tangled up between Richardson and the BBC and Entertainment One and who knows who else

if you mean that she doesn't love Ken anymore, perhaps the reasons that he has been in the news the last 900,023 times are related.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Friday, 22 February 2019 22:57 (eight months ago) link

her song about Boris Johnson isn't nearly as good

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 22 February 2019 23:01 (eight months ago) link

Wild Man?

nashwan, Friday, 22 February 2019 23:07 (eight months ago) link

If you like Room for the Life... well, sorry. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/02/22/room-for-the-life/

ballardiangorse, Saturday, 23 February 2019 01:01 (eight months ago) link

Them Heavy People helped me in a soft spot. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/02/28/them-heavy-people/ & http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/them-heavy-people/

ballardiangorse, Thursday, 28 February 2019 19:48 (eight months ago) link

two months pass...

Realized I haven't updated here in a while, so... https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/05/10/symphony-in-blue/ & http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/symphony-in-blue/

ballardiangorse, Friday, 10 May 2019 14:00 (six months ago) link

The Remastered CD Box Set Part 2 has dropped to $62 on Amazon US, that's tempting...

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Friday, 10 May 2019 14:33 (six months ago) link

four weeks pass...

On "Wow." http://www.eruditorumpress.com/blog/wow/ and also at https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/06/07/wow/

ballardiangorse, Saturday, 8 June 2019 00:36 (five months ago) link

two weeks pass...

(With apologies to anyone who's irritated by all the linking) Here's the Tour of Life. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/06/28/the-tour-of-life/

ballardiangorse, Friday, 28 June 2019 14:23 (four months ago) link

Onto Never for Ever, starting w/ Egypt katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/07/05/egypt/ (somebody else talk about Kate. I feel like I'm spamming the thread.)

ballardiangorse, Friday, 5 July 2019 17:16 (four months ago) link

Remasters of Lionheart, Never for Ever, The Red Shoes, Aerial, and 50 Words for Snow are finally available on Spotify now (not sure about other streaming services). In some cases they replaced the originals, in others they're doubled.

No idea if The Kick Inside, The Dreaming, Hounds of Love, and The Sensual World will soon join them.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:10 (four months ago) link

I've been listening to the re-done Red Shoes, I think I like it a bit more than the original. Or maybe I'm just coming around to the album regardless of mastering. The Aerial with whatshisname removed and replaced with someone else actually sounds worse to my ears.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:25 (four months ago) link

whatshisname removed and replaced with someone else

Wait what?

octobeard, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:24 (four months ago) link

Rolf Harris has a few voiceovers on the original Aerial but he turned out to be a pedophile so they removed his bits and replaced them with (I think) her son doing some narration instead. But it seems like the entire mix is slightly different to me... that could be my imagination though.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:29 (four months ago) link

They replaced Rolf Harris with Kate's son live vocals from Before the Dawn (he played the part of The Painter in the performance). So it's now a studio/live mash-up.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Monday, 15 July 2019 17:50 (four months ago) link

i like bertie's voice more than Harris'.

akm, Monday, 15 July 2019 18:59 (four months ago) link

I've been listening to the re-done Red Shoes, I think I like it a bit more than the original. Or maybe I'm just coming around to the album regardless of mastering.

i listened to both last night and i almost prefer the director's cut version, but i think i have to replace 'lily' with the original version, something is lost in the new vox. i think i also prefer the orig 'rubberband girl.' but overall the sequencing and the addition/subtraction of tracks is an improvement.

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 14:37 (four months ago) link

He's on The Dreaming as well, isn't he?

fetter, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 15:07 (four months ago) link

yeah but just playing digideroo; could be anyone.

akm, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:17 (four months ago) link

"i listened to both last night and i almost prefer the director's cut version, but i think i have to replace 'lily' with the original version, something is lost in the new vox. i think i also prefer the orig 'rubberband girl.' but overall the sequencing and the addition/subtraction of tracks is an improvement."

confused by this. You mean the versions of the songs on Director's Cut, or the version of Red Shoes that was released along with DC? Because the only difference there is that it was remastered. the versions on actual Director's Cut: that doesn't count as a new version of the album to me.

akm, Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:18 (four months ago) link

i thought of it as a reconfiguring of the red shoes since that's the album it has the most tracks in common with, but yeah i guess there was no real reason for me to think of it that way

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 16 July 2019 16:39 (four months ago) link

https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A2=MUSICOLOGY-ALL;e74bfbb1.1907

This Woman’s Work: A Kate Bush Symposium
Thursday 12th - Friday 13th December 2019, Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh

Call for Papers

Over forty years into her career, Kate Bush continues to make significant contributions to various fields of culture. In recent months, her back catalogue has been re-released in remastered form, and a book of collected lyrics, How To Be Invisible, was published by Faber in 2018. The University of Edinburgh is pleased to announce that it will host a two-day symposium on Bush’s achievements. This event will mark and celebrate four decades of diverse productivity and offers a space for reflection on and discussion of this woman’s work. Despite her prolific creativity since the 1970s – covering the fields of music, film and video, literature, and performance – comparatively little scholarly work has been produced on Kate Bush. This symposium aims to start rectifying this omission: the organisers intend to produce an edited anthology collection developed from symposium proceedings.

We invite proposals for 20-minute papers, as well as pre-constituted panels of 2 or 3 papers, on any aspect of the career of Kate Bush. We also welcome more creative contributions in alternative presentation formats to the symposium.

Oops that link got garbled. Try this one.

confused by this. You mean the versions of the songs on Director's Cut, or the version of Red Shoes that was released along with DC? Because the only difference there is that it was remastered.

I think they used a backup analog master from the original recording sessions... so something more than remastered but not remixed either? It's for certain less compressed, which could be enough to explain the difference I'm hearing.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:37 (four months ago) link

oh yeah... the version of Red Shoes released along with Director's Cut is what I'm talking about it, which is likely the same version included on the new box sets.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 16 July 2019 18:37 (four months ago) link

Relieved Bush has taken Rolf Harris' voice off her albums. That alone justifies the remasters, although they're a welcome addition to her canon. Glad she doesn't have to do the same with Roy Harper as he's not on her albums.

Speaking of the bastard, https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/07/26/another-day/

ballardiangorse, Friday, 26 July 2019 16:36 (three months ago) link

(OK apparently Harper does backing vocals on Breathing. Never mind.)

ballardiangorse, Friday, 26 July 2019 16:37 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

before the dawn currently sits at 84 on metacritic and this causes me mild outrage.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 10 October 2019 16:19 (one month ago) link

Such an irritatingly sanctimonious review on that Kate Bush blog above. Fortunately the kind Genesis blogger’s comment saves the day, only to be given the cold shoulder by the bitter moralist blog owner, whose further perspectives on Kate Bush music I won’t be in any rush to secure, that’s for sure.

I’m not relieved that Rolf Harris is erased from the newly remastered albums’ etiolated history because I liked his voice and the new versions are shit and the changes are done in a piss-poor manner. Also, I’m not relieved to know apparently Ballard was a sanctimonious moralist himself.

Max Florian, Friday, 11 October 2019 07:43 (one month ago) link

I'm unsure what's sanctimonious about saying that child rape is bad. This seems like an uncontroversial view outside of Roy Harper and Jimmy Page fandoms.

It's also unclear what exactly themusicalfoxblog (who's not even a Genesis blogger - have you even looked at their site, which is devoid of blog posts?) salvaged when all they trotted out was a blustering and unconvincing case for Harper's innocence, the corollary of which is that guilty people are always convicted in court, and a frankly abominable claim that the safety of those accused of sexual assault is more paramount to justice than that of the victims. Try to find better touters for your argument, which consists of little more than "shhh, let people enjoy things."

It's also fucking hilarious of you to say you won't read the blog anymore after directly causing a spike in its traffic for the day. So thanks for the support. It's gained me readers. :)

ballardiangorse, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:05 (one month ago) link

before the dawn is very good?

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:08 (one month ago) link

very good indeed. much better than an 84.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:16 (one month ago) link

(shrug)

i was just wanting to revive this to big up before the dawn.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 11 October 2019 19:17 (one month ago) link

wow I just discovered Christine's blog because of this post. Looking forward to digging into it more, I like all the posts I just read.

akm, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:54 (one month ago) link

Well, good for you Christine. I wish I cared for my superpower of spiking up your traffic as much as you do.

Moving on, I wish I liked Before the Dawn. The arrangements that sound like a 1986-87 Peter Gabriel tour, the boomy bass-heavy mastering she favours these days... I'll continue trying to like it from time to time, but I'm afraid the Kate I love stops at The Red Shoes (very much included!) with just some songs off Aerial, plus the entire 50 Words for Snow.

Max Florian, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:14 (one month ago) link

continuing to enjoy the Bush blog, ballardiangorse

omar little, Friday, 11 October 2019 21:25 (one month ago) link

with just some songs off Aerial, plus the entire 50 Words for Snow

this is a backwards opinion

american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 21:41 (one month ago) link

they are both great

akm, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:01 (one month ago) link

i'm not a massive fan of the mix on BTD either but it's not bad

akm, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:01 (one month ago) link

A Sky of Honey is the best thing she's ever done and the extended version on Before the Dawn is pretty great.

ufo, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:03 (one month ago) link

apart from "tawny moon" being a bit inessential and the mix being not as great, the extended live versions really add a lot to it, especially "prologue" and "aerial"

ufo, Saturday, 12 October 2019 00:18 (one month ago) link

three weeks pass...

New blog post on Bush's second contribution to a Peter Gabriel song: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/11/04/no-self-control/

And incidentally, here's the previous entry: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/10/07/games-without-frontiers/

ballardiangorse, Monday, 4 November 2019 14:46 (two weeks ago) link

I'd never heard that demo before and sort of fell down a rabbit hole of "Melt" demos, cool shit

tantric societal collapse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 November 2019 00:38 (two weeks ago) link

Back in 1997 there were very briefly rumours that Kate had been dating David Byrne, which were soon forgotten. But in the midst of those Byrne’s “Feelings” album was released, and check the back vox on this song. I’ve never seen them discussed anywhere since.

https://youtu.be/9yFYZ4JexsY

Max Florian, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 11:59 (two weeks ago) link

am I missing something? are you 1) insinuating those are her (they don't sound like it to me) or 2) that the song itself is somehow referencing their relationship? (I'd never heard that rumor btw but my access to such rumors was fairly limited in 97)

akm, Tuesday, 5 November 2019 14:20 (two weeks ago) link

Fans of my Another Day post will love this one. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/11/13/you-the-game-part-ii/

ballardiangorse, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:41 (one week ago) link

Or maybe you'll like this one on All We Ever Look For. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2019/11/20/all-we-ever-look-for/

ballardiangorse, Wednesday, 20 November 2019 14:09 (two hours ago) link


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