Kate Bush

As for the Kate Bush album, if it's ready by then great, but I wouldn't count on it.

Favourite album has to be 'Hounds of Love'.

DJ Martian - interesting site....I think it'd be a colossal mistake to not release her album this year. What she must remember is that the age bracket who religiously bought her music has now grown up..... and rarely purchase CDs as such any more.... and she's not endeared herself to a new audience at all. Since her break, copyists like Amos, Harvey etc have appeared and cornered that end of the market. I've a feeling EMI will be very worried about this new album's release...

...great to see The Beloved still around, though.

Even her b-sides are incredible - Under The Ivy, b-side to Running up that hill is another fine song.

Didn't like the Red Shoes album much at all (Eric Clapton?!),apart from Song of Solomon and Big stripey lie.

The Dreaming is a brave, dark record....hard to believe it's 20 years old.

Next month, it's 25 years since Wuthering heights hit number one, too!? Where did that go?

But my favourite album is Hounds of Love - Mother stands for comfort is like a warm blanket, and 9th Wave is breathtaking.

Kate Bush never ceases to amaze and fascinate me, though, and the new album, in this sterile music scene, will be so welcome.

Yes, The Beloved (jon marsh) is back and working on new material, however the Beloved listed via the link is a hardcore rock band.]

I once had a dream with her "All the Love" as a soundtrack, I woke up completely creeped out and wondering where the words "I needed you - to love me too. I wait for your move" came from.

However her videos are unremitting pap. They are a complete embarrassment and I wonder why she doesn't hire e.g. Madonna's directors. I know it might all turn out horribly wrong and commercial and her delicate imagery and ideas wither but ANYTHING ANYTHING would be better than (god help me) "Army Dreaming" etc.

"When I heard Killing Joke broke up!"

**FACT**

Kate was a huge fan of the Joke. Youth even played bass for her on the HOUNDS OF LOVE album. Thus, KATE BUSH HONORS THE FIRE!!!

http://www.an-irrational-domain.net/images/youth/youth27.jpg

(*goes to honour the fire in own kitch'': to strike match, light cig*)

Alex in NYC -- what's your fave Jaz'ed-up orchestra'vaganza then?

Jaz does Doors,
Jaz ups Zep,
Jaz goes Pink F ?

BTW, there ever been a separate thread on Anne Dudley?

Surmounter, Is "The whole story" a good starting place?

to be honest, i haven't even listened to it.

i rly would start with the dreaming. i'm not a compliation person myself.

Either am I.

It's just I managed to find it on rapidshare. I am listening now. I might leave it, I'm sure HMV will have it knocked down for January.

You must also listen to Arthur Russell pretty soon.

oh ya! thank you, almost forgot...

I just pulled out _The Whole Story_ the other day and it's still a damn good place to start. Clearly she's due for a new retrospective as _TWS_ only goes through 1986! But it culls choice tracks from her early albums, enough to help you decide if you want to pursue them further.

Just another gratuitous revive of a random Kate Bush thread...*cough* *Ah HEM!* Move along, nothing to see here.

It was raining and I was alone this week so I put on Hounds of Love and it made me cry.
It's not an album to dip into, it has to be heard from start to finish, then again. For when those
moments pop out at you and make you sit up, "pause for a jet", "look who's here to see you", "Murderer!".
the key change when the Hello Earth theme returns. I put this moment here.

"Do you see that little light up there?"
"Where?"
"There"
"Where?"

gets me every time.

<3 <3

kate on a piano in dream of sheep is so perfect, so singer songwriter with something bigger, so crystal clear.

i'll wake up to the sound of engines. ::vrrrrooom::

i can't listen to hol or the dreaming without crying. it's like watching steve martin without smiling.

this one never fades. like a childhood dream.

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e201127980c74f28a4-800wi

<3 <3 <3

YES

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e20111690c4295970c-800wi

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e20111690c7fca970c-pi

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e20111690c7984970c-pi

that last one!

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e201127980e25628a4-800wi

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e201127980dd1028a4-800wi

loolll. i love that mean expression that she can do. is that the RUTH video?

i'm not sure...i need to go watch a shitload of her vids

http://fourfour.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b8c369e20111690c4ad4970c-800wi

Dry contact lenses there, I reckons.

http://i692.photobucket.com/albums/vv289/WeAdmire/KateBushApple-White.jpg

whoa thats dope

yeah where i can i exchange dollars for that

ebay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOo916s2jTI

watching kate bush interviews is very good for getting hypnotized

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7KVdwYSX6A

oh my gosh thank you for these gifs omar

Have thought abt going as her in the Babushka video for Halloween, for years.

there was a really nice, well-written essay, in the last issue of the wire, on the song "cloudbusting."

My hero: Kate Bush by David Mitchell

Much as I love Kate and any deserved publicity she gets in this newfound diva era, I kind of read that and just found myself going "and you're point is?" towards the end. Is that a usual thing with The Guardian - random-esque articles in which some randomite (?) reminisces over why he likes such and such, their virtues, and then fin?

Anyways, that Razzamatazz video is mesmerizing and yet the whole thing with there being children in the background just made lusting slightly awkward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OLJFzNPBNg

I thought maybe this would be about new songs. Ah well.

A lost voice of ancient Albion awoken in the modern age

that you NV ;)

srsly that word is the twat alarm of 2KX

An ancient Greek poetess stranded in the vapid and empty 'culture' of celebrity

pretty sure this shtick does not work in Wetherspoon's of a Friday night but good luck son

dude wd appreciate the stoic romanticism of a thorough glassing imo

David Mitchell isn't a randomite. You could make a case for 'cloud atlas' being the kind of book Kate would write if she was a novelist. Mitchell adoring her makes perfect sense.

His work on 'Peep Show' was pretty good as well...

i think this sounds very interesting and a bit crackers. maybe she doesn't think these 2 albums in particular were ver given their due. she'd be correct of course i guess. anyway...

KATE BUSH RELEASES “DIRECTOR’S CUT” A NEW ALBUM WHICH SEES HER RE-VISIT A SELECTION OF TRACKS FROM TWO OF HER CLASSIC ALBUMS.

London, 11 March 2011

Kate Bush releases an unusual new album “Director’s Cut” on May 16 on her own label Fish People, in conjunction with EMI.

On “Directors Cut” Kate revisits a selection of tracks from her albums “The Sensual World” and “The Red Shoes”, a process that presents a fascinating portrait of an artist in a constant state of evolution. She has re-recorded some elements whilst keeping the best musical performances of each song – making it something of a director’s cut but in sound, not vision.

A new version of “Deeper Understanding” will be released as a single in April. Although written some twenty years ago, the song may be more relevant today than ever…

Kate is currently working on new material although no release date has been set for this.

“Director’s Cut” will be released in the following formats:

Digital Album, Standard CD in a case-bound book, Deluxe CD (three disc package, including Director’s Cut, The Sensual Word and re-mastered The Red Shoes) in a case-bound book and two-disc vinyl.

Other digital and vinyl formats will be made available on katebush.com. Details will be published shortly.

http://www.katebush.com/

-

amazing to think there's not been a decent Best Of / Greatest Hits album in almost 25 years. especially seeing as she's on EMI and all.

haha so it's not actually a new new album

sure it'll be nice but can't get excited about reissues really

ah, but she is very wise..

"The Red Shoes" got the most 'unexcited' reviews she ever had, and putting them in with "The Sensual World" which got the most (ahem) excited ones, sounds like all this stuff will get fashioned into something better.

(I don't own either, and really don't know either either)

And, of course, she won't feel the need to break cover and appear anywhere to publicise these, right?

Yeah these are pretty much my least favourite Kate Bush records so hopefully something great will come out of it. The Sensual World in particular would benefit from being re-recorded and re-arranged Aerial-style.

Would be incredible to hear Wuthering Heights redone (not that there's anything wrong with it!). But imo those are pretty safe albums to re-sing... I'm still curious as to whether Kate can still belt or not. Aerial was fairly mellow, on the vocal range...

the sensual world is perfect and fine, red shoes is like, 1/2 good. so I hope for some improvement there but resent the fucking with Sensual World. Also, the three disc package: are both albums remastered or just red shoes? don't get it.

way to get all sylvian on us, re-recording and arranging things. ugly cover art too. bah.

Would be incredible to hear Wuthering Heights redone (not that there's anything wrong with it!)

she resung it for the whole story i think - it's less shrill, i guess i'm used to the original though.

are there any examples of an artist redoing their back catalogue that are actually significant improvements (i'm talking "omg this is great" rather than "this is just nice") on the originals? when tori amos did it, it was pretty much entirely ignorable.

xpost

tbh Kate Bush is in my top 5 regarded artists, but I've never liked any of her cover art. Hounds of Love looks like it was done in Microsoft Word
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/eb/Hounds_of_love.jpg/220px-Hounds_of_love.jpg

but that's what you get when you're under EMI. I sorta doubt she has any authority over her covers at all. I mean, look at this one:
http://pixhost.info/avaxhome/fa/88/000e88fa_medium.jpeg
GAWD

"My face is orbiting the sun!"

cant wait to hear the new version of 'deeper understanding'
the original is soo cringeworthily awesome

editing myself, she's currently on Legacy records. Which strikes me as weird/unsurprising that some corporate schmuck from Sony would be getting paid $45/hour to take a picture of a film roll and overlay KB's name atop. What genius!!

lolwut @ that "and so is love" cover

xxp surely it's the Sun orbiting Kate's face? Damn you and your warped heliocentric views!

I've never liked any of her cover art

I love the cover of The Dreaming. Nothing wrong with Sensual World or Aerial either.

sensual world, dreaming, the kite version of the kick inside are all good. lionheart is good too in a cheesy 70's way.

Nothing wrong, but nothing great. Faces. The album art seems more like a chronology of her hairstyles than, like her music, works of art.

Aerial was at least a departure, altho again, the text is shoddy and the whole thing looks like it literally took about 25minutes.

just saying she deserves much better

can't believe the Bush cover art is getting dissed. The Dreaming is a classic and the Hounds photo is brilliant too!

The Sensual World The Red Shoes in particular would benefit from being re-recorded and re-arranged

FTFY. The ugly, hollow production on The Red Shoes really spoils the album for me.

are there any examples of an artist redoing their back catalogue that are actually significant improvements (i'm talking "omg this is great" rather than "this is just nice") on the originals?

Raw Power, though I know some will vehemently disagree.

I feel a thread coming on!

http://www.vinylsearcher.com/largeImages/23570976.jpg

If you don't like the cover for Never for Ever, I don't understand you! Kate as a bat lady on the back cover is also awesome.

http://www.bloodsprayer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/kate_bush_bat-wings.jpg

^ actually, that would be 2nd favorite behind Lionheart
http://991.com/NewGallery/Kate-Bush-Lionheart-275771.jpg
and Eat The Music is a cool departure
http://rsindex.pictures-hosting.com/2009-12-02/000e8868_medium.jpeg

but for the rest of them, it's always just some facial of Kate w/ a different costume/hair-do. They capture her personality, sure, but they're so damn boring
http://gaffa.org/sensual/p_ruth2.jpg

and really I'm arguing for little cause here... apart from that I desperately hope that the Director's Cut album's artwork is only a conceptual. Because it's the biggest snooze I've ever possibly seen.

Aerial was at least a departure, altho again, the text is shoddy and the whole thing looks like it literally took about 25minutes.

i was going to post aerial to refute the original claim because i remembered it as being Cool but then i looked it up and saw the photoshop lens flare and sheepishly left the thread

http://www.katebushnews.com/wp-content/uploads/directorscut2.jpg

and it's not like the stills within the film are any interesting. it's artwork from other albums.

bahhh whatever. guess i'll deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5UsjqXXcZ4

some of the old school fans are pretty pissed about this! lot of ranting about kate using a 'voice coder'. obviously not quite realising she's pretending to be a computer.

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5100/5448294272_150c939581_m.jpg

yeah not quite sure whats up with that

oh sorry yes its her new vanity isn't it?

Director’s Cut will be released 16 May and will be available for pre-order from iTunes tomorrow. There has been a lot of speculation about the track list with many people trying to guess which tracks will feature on the album. Well, we can now confirm that the final track list is...

Flower of the Mountain (previously ‘The Sensual World’)

Song of Solomon

Deeper Understanding

Lily

Red Shoes

This Woman’s Work

Moments of Pleasure

Never Be Mine

Top of The City

And So Is Love

Director's Cut will be released on 16 May 2011 and will be available to pre-order from iTunes from tomorrow (5th April). Anyone who pre-orders from iTunes will instantly receive the full length version of "Deeper Understanding" as a thank you!

this is weird haha

these are all really undemanding songs in terms of vocals. gonna be a really mellow album, this.

im really stoked to hear 'flower of the mountain' as 'the sensual world' is one of my favorites

"Sensual World" could easily fit into her current style of singing. I got a lot of sense of it in Aerial's "Nocturn", in sense that they're both warm cooings atop plodding (but welcome!) beats.

this whole project rly confuses me tho. is it her attempt to modernize songs she found especially dated? "deeper understanding" upthread is a espcially bizarre take, almost more afitting to that brit spears song that did the same (can't think of the name??) with the max'd-out vocoder thing.

yeah this whole project makes no sense to me, even hearing the reworked 'deeper understanding' didn't offer any clues.

my first thought is that she's finally jumped the shark but then again this is the same woman who gave us the stunning aerial after a 12 years absence

Yeah really. I mean there are particular examples of bands covering their own songs that I've thought played out suprisingly well (thinking the excellent Yardbirds reconvening for "Birdland", when they were all in their 50's/60's/whatever) but w/ those the only difference was higher standards of production and just general abandon of the lo-fi thing that defined the 60s. It's true, KB does sound dated compared to modern female vocalists but the fact that she never really sound afitting to anything her generation produced at the same doesn't give this that same sort of bewilderment that one would attain from having a quissentially evocative group (of, for example, the 80s) like New Order come around and re-do all their songs.

KB seems to care enough about her reputation that I can't think she's doing this for a quick cash-grab but at the same she isn't really producing much new aside from what I assume is going to be a compilation of songs with deeper bass and some employment of newer technology. Which, again, is sorta like Britney Spears just releasing an album w/ a sound particular to whatever trends are going on at the moment (her latest it some weird dubsteb infusion)

I really don't think she thinks of it in terms of career plan at all - the link between whatever she wants to do and the business side / celebrity cycle seems almost non existant

the deeper understanding take is awful.

the songs from the red shoes are pretty much the songs on that album that I like, can't tell if that's good or bad; I was hoping she'd fix the songs I didn't like and make them better, but I don't really want to hear those ones futzed with. I assume she's stripping the trio bulgarka from all these takes which is unfortunate.

bah kate wtf are you doing

I thought she made some seriously cheesy musical choices on Aerial so won't be surprised if she's become the Witchy Soccer Mom Of Music.

PS Would still have her babies etc.etc.

love kate but i can't find it in me to get remotely excited about re-released "reworkings" - by the same token though its existence doesn't mean she's jumped any shark. it's just a pointless between-albums exercise, probably cuz she's bored or it's in her contract or she wants some more money or to keep her name around.

i'm okay with her reworking red shoes tracks, but the production and performances on the sensual world were amazing and i'd be disappointed if she didn't agree. (i'd be fine if she publically disowned "reaching out," though.)

Wow, this new Deeper Understanding is seriously, tragically bad. Sounds like a Cleopatra Records tribute album.

Although I do like how the end sounds like Laughing Stock-era Talk Talk.

Aw man, I can't like the "Deeper Understanding" mix — most of the Trio Bulgarka vocals are gone! The original mix also sounded a lot more spacious. This sounds like what it most likely is — a home studio recording.

wasnt aerial recorded in her home studio as well?

Uh, haven't all her albums since Hounds of Love been recorded there?

I think so, but none of them sound like home recordings (Aerial does a bit in some of the dated sounds she uses).

The story on the retitling of "The Sensual World" as "Flower of the Mountain" is that on the original she had asked for and been refused permission to quote directly from James Joyce's Ulysses, but she asked again recently and this time they let her.

She could have used the Ralph Spoilsport mantra instead.[/firesign]

sadly, i fear kate is more interested in keeping the unwashed masses away from her beachfront 17-acre manse than in making music. she's fucking turned into the edge or something.

Hey Now!! Getting a little carried away there, Kate will never be any member of U2. Everyone needs to breathe a little easier over this project.

i'm just ribbing kate cuz i love her.

I'm actually looking forward to hearing this, but I won't listen to any clips until I have the record in my hand. It might be a failure, but hearing her sing This Woman's Work again could never disappoint. I don't really question why she's doing this, just happy to hear her voice.

i dont not dig this

She has identified the good tracks on The Red Shoes rather precisely. Also apart from leaving in Deeper Understanding and leaving out The Fog she's also chosen my favoruites from The Sensual World. Not sure what this means.

A comp of just the originals of these tracks would be an amazingly strong album, I reckon.

sadly, i fear kate is more interested in keeping the unwashed masses away from her beachfront 17-acre manse than in making music. she's fucking turned into the edge or something.

― butterfield earth (get bent), Tuesday, 5 April 2011 05:14 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

She's the only 'artist'/'famousperson' I've been in a studio with and prevented (we all were, it wasn't just me) from going anywhere near.

Mark, why were you in a studio with Saint Kate? Any interesting tales about her working methods, juicy gossip etc?

It was a TV studio, I was there as a member of a TV pop review panel.

She was being interviewed on-camera about 2 hours after we'd finished our pieces, but we had to stand 'over there' and go nowhere near the goddess either before or after her spot.

Sorry bout that, story got less interesting the longer I went on.

lol, as they say..

After the slightly conservative production on Aerial, if she wants to go back and make The Sensual World and The Red Shoes more electronic, I'm not complaining.

Really not getting this after hearing Deeper Understanding. I thought the reworking would be more drastic - maybe a type of solo piano thing. The new version is very similar, just not as good.

http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/katebush.jpg

Well, Big Boi's a fan

Did I read somewhere that the computer on this is sung by her kid?

Big Boi has been repping for Kate for forever!

Ah no, I meant, of this new rerecording!

http://www.katebushnews.com/wp-content/uploads/KB2A-682x1024.jpg

Kate Bujorshk

o ya, and a glimpse into the Directors Cut packaging (image = huge)
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6569/directorscutdeluxeset.jpg

Fish People = Khate Buorke

this will make lex real mad but anyway this alan partridge kate bush medley fucking slays me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJbjAwvRWLs

WTF with Fish People? The interior of the packaging looks hundreds of times better than the exterior.

there is a clip of Lily on youtube now, it is..also not as good as the original.

this strikes me as one of those perfectly misguided times when an artist "finally does" the one thing her "fans" have wished and moaned on the internet for them to do until it's become blindly accepted as a good thing. And then weirded out/dissapointed instantly when it happens and the reality is.. errr.

"wouldn't it be great if xyz took all the good bits from the (less satisfying than their consensus peak) record(s), took another go at the production and everything would be great again! blemishes forgotten and the world (and fans ideals of their god...) made a bit more perfect!" what could possibly go wrong?!

*see also "back to the sound of when more people liked them/they were more pop" = return to form (unless it's shit and totally devoid of the un-recapture-able x factor that made the original sparkle in context & time.

*doubt this is Kate's sole motivation, but surprised she isn't just moving on....

*"Smile" I guess? Never been a big Beach Boys fan but only positive counter-example I can think of.

that said, it's Kate Bush!!!!!!

I love both the source albums regardless, "bad production" isn't something that gets in the way for me 99% of the time....

kinda taking this as a retirement note, but at the same time, i can't even fathom her not trying to release one more great album -

this is a bit shallow, but in a lot of ways i think the directors cut is just a bit to keep her vox in check and, hey, sell the product

preview of 'flower of the mountain' is up now and it's bad too. so my hopes are officially dashed for this turning out good.

i trust nothing by NME but
http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=140&p=10121&title=kate_bush_director_s_cut_first_listen&more=1&c=1

yeah I dunno we'll see. I like all of these songs and can't imagine any of them being improved upon frankly, and what I've heard so far is NOT promising. but the moments of pleasure take at least sounds good.

yeah, i'm maybe most intrigued by that one, although i really like the kamen orchestration on the original version

Loving this new "Deeper Understanding". If the rest of the album is just as odd I'll be very happy.

Interview with Kate Bush by Ken Bruce on the way on BBC Radio 2 now

this is streaming on NPR (and apparently on japanese itunes so I'm sure a leak is around somewhere). listened to most of it last night. Not convinced by the Flower of the Mountain; I love Ulysses and I love that monologue but I think the Sensual World worked better, it just sounds kind of flat....

The This Woman's Work re-do is pretty intense and sad. maybe too sad.

The BBC show isn't available in my area? Just listened to 'This Woman's Work' and it's beautiful and devastating.

on the other hand, this new version of 'rubberband girl'...also sucks! i really just don't like that song at all

hella disappointed with Flower of the Moutain, the oOOOOOOO yes parts from the original were my favorite!

the mix is terrible, I hope this is not how the final thing sounds, the vocals are way too high on many things (and so is love for example)...yeesh, this project is such a misstep. what the hell?

in one of the interviews it sounded like she is done with a new album. bring that on. but I hope she does a better job on it than she did on this. it's weird she's donig so much promotion for this project and she was like completely absent when arial came out.

and rubberband girl is bad. very bad.

the only success here is this woman's work and moments of pleasure, and I don't think they're any better than the originals, they're just different. these other versions just sound...what the hell.

"never be mine" is not bad - dunno that i prefer it to the original or anything

mostly underwhelmed by this

This is on Spotify now btw.

The acts keeping Kate Bush in the spotlight

I could probably sing the majority of ~ 10-12 Kate Bush songs from memory and there is nothing on this record I have heard of. Is that by chance or is it just that odd a set of songs?

Xpost one of those 'trib' acts has done, ooh, 30 gigs now...

I'm liking this. I like these stripped down versions of some songs ("Sensual World", " Song Of Solomon", ...) that I often found fussy and overproduced in their original states. Her subtle use of studio bells n' whistles is also great. I'm also really digging that smoky, lower register she's singing in. I think she pulls it off.

"Deeper Understanding" sounds AWFUL.

yeah, i honestly don't know why that was picked as the lead promotional track for this

the robo voice is cloying in the worst sense.

How deluded am I that I find this album (mostly) remarkably beautiful and more essential than "Aerial"?

It's pretty and all, but I really hoped for more dramatic changes. I mean, This Woman's Work has almost become an entirely new song, which might even surpass the original. But all the other tracks stay so close to home that I wonder why she went through all the trouble. They remind me so much of the originals that I can't help comparing and they lose on all accounts. I always hated Rubberband Girl and hoped for a slow impression on solo piano or another acoustic instrument, because that might've improved the song. Now we end up with the exact same monstrosity (well, a little bit more Stones like).

All in all I'm looking more forward to the remaster of the Red Shoes album.

new version of Moments Of Pleasure = astonishing. although some of the names originally listed (Maureen and Bill) have fallen by the wayside. MOJO has a long piece all about Director's Cut by Keith Cameron and it's bloody great. she says
"if people don't like this and they like the old ones, then the old ones are still there aren't they?"

I wonder if it would have been better if she had just opted for the rerecording of some old songs. That way it is a bit like what those songs might sound like nowadays if Kate would perform them live. I strongly feel that because she worked with the same recordings these new versions are too much rooted in the originals. I think the main reason why I like the new This Woman's Work so much is because I hardly hear any 'samples' taken from the original.

Regarding the above statement: every artists is entitled to create whatever they want, of course, just as the audience is entitled to think of that whatever they want.

Has anybody seen the Deeper Understanding video? Damn.

Yeah, that wasn't an easy sit through.

still can't get over how she changed the words to "And So Is Love" so the song is completely different

pfork interview today

http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7968-kate-bush

it's weird she's donig so much promotion for this project and she was like completely absent when arial came out.

― akm, Friday, 13 May 2011 01:08 (3 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^^^ so weird

Probably because this project needs the extra push, whereas Ariel didn't.

aerial

http://www.ny.starliteprincessparties.com/img/Ariel.jpg

Oriole.

The new 'Deeper Understanding' cut is so bad it makes me angry. And so sad that I'm completely disheartened to try this album even.

I also can't come to grips with the whole 'aura' around this album, which merely seems to be "I thought it be cool to just, y' know, try this", "There's always the old versions" etc... From a woman who's always been so forward thinking and avant-garde in terms of creativity.

I just don't know what the hell this is supposed to be. Off to read the PF interview, hope it clarifies some things...

I see *all* of her albums are re-released, with nary a mention of EMI on the packaging.

are they? only The Red Shoes is being remastered though.

Only The Dreaming through The Red Shoes to my knowledge; of which only the last one is remastered. Another mystery decision. There are excellent Japanese remasters available of all these albums, so why stick to those crummy eighties' editions?

The new 'Deeper Understanding' cut is so bad it makes me angry

Be assured that the terrible robo-voice only occurs on that track. All the other material is harmonically sound. But yeah, if she wanted to visit old stuff - most artists do it all the time on stage - why taking this road? Can you imagine some intimate live versions of these songs with only Kate on piano (or a sparse backing ensemble)? Bring it on!

i do hate to say it but her taste is hit or miss these days it seems. deeper understanding is .... ALMOST good? but the production of her voice is not what it should be at all. and she is not helping the nasal quality in her voice. it's too bad.

the new momnts of pleasure is pretty cool though, especially the humming.

I derive some hope from your assurance that the robo-voice is only on that track, Sebastian, so thank you for that ~ I'll give it a dedicated shot. Bang on about the rest, I could think of several ways that would make for way more interesting 're-interpretations' of her old work. Gladly that is not up to me, but I do think it's an unfortunate choice.

Psyched I most definitely am about the actual new album that is coming out.

xp

Pitchfork actually has a fairly good interview here
http://pitchfork.com/features/interviews/7968-kate-bush/

and Kate takes the slight-troll of "what was the logic behind that?", regarding removing instrumental sections, surprisingly well. I mean it's nuts to think that no matter what Kate is quite clearly proud of most anything she does... imo, I like that about her.

the new version of "this woman's work" is ridiculously pretty. if nothing else the project is worth it for that, still waiting for the other songs to sink in. i have no problem with the new version of deeper understanding, i like it, but don't love it.

I've listened to the album through three or four times now and I think that is enough, but, TWW is really good. The rest is either bad or just kind of...sits there.

As one of the few stalwart defenders of The Red Shoes (not a great album but a more than respectable stab at adult contemporary; and wtf I love "Rubberband Girl"), I'm still scratching my head about the point of this project.

i love deeper understanding
not sure what you guys don't like

Nice Irish Times interview from a couple of weeks ago, ends with this quote:

It was never my intention to go so long without touring. I have no plans to tour at the moment, but I’d like to think that I would again some day. I’ll never say never.

Also, has anyone seen the bizarre TV ad for the new record? Robbie Coltrane being smothered by CGI blobs coming out of his computer...

SFJ piece forthcoming in the newyorker i think

i love deeper understanding
not sure what you guys don't like

― it is sad but their is so much beauty (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 May 2011 18:28 (2 days ago) Permalink

her voice sounds like shit on it. that song is written SO WELL - it's like, the original is pretty good, but to be given the opportunity to redo it - i expect something perfect.

oh right that ad is taken from the Deeper Understanding video I see (xposts to myself).

so SFJ is still writing for the new yorker as well as doing The Daily? glad to hear it, and look forward to reading that.

I may have misunderstood who he was writing the bush piece for.
I had not heard this song prior and was not aware it was a remake.

sfj still writes for the nyer

yeah, i know; he just did that tuneyards piece. Just not sure who the bush piece is for.

Did this get linked somewhere?

Kate Bush writing new album - Singer to follow Director's Cut with first batch of original songs since 2005
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/may/27/kate-bush-writing-new-album

It was already known, strikes me as a bit odd that the Graun is selling this as hot news.

Mad excited nonetheless

Maybe I'd missed it but I hadn't seen the rumours backed up by hard evidence before.

Really am enjoying the remaster of The Red Shoes. I always thought that album sounded flat and unpleasantly harsh. Detonating with the layered sound Kate is known for. This new analogue remaster lifts the album straight into Kate's realm. The drums and percussion are warm and deep, and the bass is energetic and bouncy. Kate and band are really standing in your living room now. The album used to sound cluttered but now everything that's going on in the background - which is a lot; classic Kate - has room to breathe and excel. This has become an entirely new album for me.

It has also been remixed a little. For some reason Big Stripey Lie has a fadeout now; omitting the sound of a rattling drum computer coming to a halt. This is a pity. But Eat the Music seems to have gained some extra layers of background vocals, making the song better and richer (although those extra layers might've always been there, impossible to be discerned before due to the crappy production).

The beautiful rework of "Moments Of Pleasure" still chokes me up. Especially when the humming choir comes in. Man. I still really love
"Director's Cut".

Agreed. I think it's a terrific record. Production is fabulous.

New album :

http://www.katebush.com/news/kate-release-brand-new-album-50-words-snow-november

http://www.katebush.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/normal_size/wysiwyg_imageupload/1/50Small.jpg

Yesssssssssss!!!

“50 Words For Snow” will feature seven brand new tracks set against a background of falling snow. The total running time is 65 minutes and the track listing is:

SNOWFLAKE
LAKE TAHOE
MISTY
WILDMAN
SNOWED IN AT WHEELER STREET
50 WORDS FOR SNOW
AMONG ANGELS

Seven songs, 65 minutes... *drools*

Excited by the news, but eww at the cover.

Surely this is deserving of a new thread?

christ: the last six years have gone fassssst

It's a winter album, then.

WILDMAN

As done by Wild Man Fischer?

No reworked version of "December Will Be Magic Again"?

The snowman with lips makes me feel a bit nauseous. That's just wrong man

Snowman? I thought it was Alfred Hitchcock.

That nose is gonna have her eye out.

That cover seriously needs to go away forever.

The title is stupid too.

I love Kate Bush!

http://www.cross-stitch-corner.co.uk/ekmps/shops/brendahickling/images/a-kiss-for-snowman-1102-p.jpg

well this album art won't convert any of the 'Kate's artwork sucks' mob from upthread.

This will be a treat in winter, unless it's a grave disappointment. I'm optimistic though.

Two albums in one year from KB can only mean she's getting everything out before the 2012 apocalypse.

For many years, Stewart Avon Arnold has enjoyed intense conversations with Bush about a range of spiritual and philosophical matters. "We talk about different philosophies on the phone for hours," says Arnold. "She mentions karma a lot, and reincarnation, and witchcraft and paganism and Buddhism. We always end up in these conversations about life in general and spiritual life in particular. Both of us have a fascination about spiritual life; we used to question each other and we still do. She'll phone me and say, 'What do you think about this, Stewart?' It always comes down to the spiritual questions in life, Man's place on the planet and what we're doing to it. The other thing that I talk about with Kate is The End of Days. Not Revelation, because neither of us believe in the Bible as such, but in terms of what Nostradamus was saying about 2012. The Hopi Indians, too. We're in for a global meltdown of some kind, the planet will change drastically in the next 10, 15 years. That's something Kate and I talk about quite a lot."

She mentions karma a lot

:/

Yeah, idek. That's from the Under the Ivy bio.

I would've lived on perfectly fine without knowing that tbh

Then why didn't she contribute ANY songs to the 2012 soundtrack?

Filter did.

I would've lived on perfectly fine without knowing that tbh

― Vision Kreayshawn Newsun (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, September 12, 2011 5:16 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

yes this news has shattered my image of kate bush as a level-headed empirical sort

lol fair play

Stephen Fry did some spoken word on this new album. Weird.

That's on the extra secret track, "General Ignorance"

'50 words for snow' is just the sort of boring subject I can imagine him jibbering on about tbh.

I'm sure he's already done a 50 point penalty for someone saying there were 50 words for snow in the Eskimo languge.

Although, looking at Wiki, it seems it's not exactly a fallacy as such: There's certainly a lot of words for Rain in the eng lang.

You see I'm preemptively bored of his appearance already.

Rolf Harris was successfully recontextualised though, so you never know.

Rolf has always been gangsta

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wales/arts/sites/rolf-harris/images/rolf-on-art-2001_01_446.jpg
"Can you tell what it is yet, muthafukaz?"

http://www.barrylou.com/art/favoriteMusic/rolfHarris.jpg

"Yeah, this album is dedicated to all the teachers that told me
I'd never amount to nothin', to all the people that lived in the bush
I was hustlin' in front of that called the police on
me when I was just tryin' to make some money to feed my daughters,
and all the niggaz in the struggle, you know what I'm sayin cobber'?

only just listening to Director's Cut, the "Deeper Understanding" rework is absolutely brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzqF_gBpS84

Don't think the video ever got posted

i see Robbie Coltrane's as good an actor as ever

Is the Deeper Understanding rework the one with the robot voice? I thought I was the only person in the world who liked that.

no i looked upthread, there's you, me and at least one other guy

made me want a whole album of autotuned Kate Bush tbh, but i think i might just be trolling

God, I hope you are NV!

Can't stand that autotune. She damn well steer clear of that on the new album... :-/

But what do we expect? Big changes, like from Never for Ever to The Dreaming or just a continuation of the sensual, laid back and smooth sound of Aerial and Director's Cut? It has been stated that the new one has been recorded at the same time as Director's Cut. Also, the tracks on the new one seem fairly long. All music, or minutes upon minutes of falling snow and the crunchy sound of people walking in it? I have to admit I'm a bit fearful.

i'm the other guy.
isn't the autotuned voice her son?

It's an old-fashioned vocoder rather than autotune, right?

I don't know what to expect Sebastian, but the prospect of 7 songs in 65 minutes makes me highly anticipate it!

More or less than the Lou Reed/Metallica? Because that is the gold standard of anticipation.

Tough one, but more.

i am completely down with minutes upon minutes of falling snow and the crunchy sound of people walking in it.

Kate already went ambient with the new version of This Woman's Work, so yeah, using the sound of snow as main musical texture could be the next logical step.

for me, kate bush has always been about challenging my aesthetics, but god damn that cover..

It's not too big a change from what I though was a pretty boring one for Aerial

Never liked Kate Bush album-art, honestly (but I adore her despite)... think I actually posted about it upthread.

I was the other other guy who likes "Deeper Understanding". Very much looking forward to this new one.

New single is pretty interested and bodes well for the album after disappointment of Director's Cut. Sounds fairly Dreaming era arrangement wise. Sad to hear her voice is slightly diminishing in it's power nowadays though.

I missed the premier on BBC Radio2, is that where you heard it? I'm stoked!

Someone posted it for streaming here: http://breakingillusions.tumblr.com/post/11268597787/wild-man-kate-bush-album-version-you-are

Not for me, I'm sad to say.

http://consequenceofsound.net/2011/10/check-out-kate-bush-wild-man/

oops xp

Thanks guys!

Chorus sounds kinda Steely Dan

I really like it, thanks.

Hmmm... It's good, but I'm not mad on the chorus.

It's got a bit of a Bowie-vibe overall, no?

Her voice has definitely waned a bit, she sounds more like Patti Smith.

I'm very glad to hear form her again after DC which was a disaster imho, so it's good to have her back, and like Jamie said, bodes well for the album.

love the new song!

can't tell. honestly for years I've been very lukewarm on anything new she puts out but then I grow to love most of it. the music is great, certainly

This song is a bit. . . uneventful.

It's got a bit of a Bowie-vibe overall, no?

I was more thinking Japan. A very early eighties electronic sound for sure.

I thought it pretty much follows on from Aerial, somewhere between 'King of the Mountain' and 'Nocturn'. I really like the production, the progression in the electric piano sounds is warm and lovely.

One thing though is that there's not much in the way of melody. On the verses she's really having to try to force the vocal into a tune that isn't really there. It's something that's come out of participating in the U2 and Led Zep, how eventually the ability to write strong hooks just goes. You make up for it in other ways, like her exploring long, loping rhythms, but I'm wondering if that's a universal of ageing for some reason.

in the U2 and Zep polls

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/377765_10150392901235680_10393480679_8274779_725544317_n.jpg

Nice.

Indeed.

http://sleevage.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/michael_jackson_dangerous-f.jpg

ugh son lol

why can't that be the new album cover instead of pedo-snowman?

4real. it's a great image

totally

all in favor say aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy

I'm in favour of all images of Kate Bush.

OK, in all seriousness, it's a beautiful image but it has way too much potential to be derided and dubbed something like Kokey Kate if the album came across as particularly strange to a critic. I mean I like to feign maturity and all but I couldn't help but think of it as Kate in a ski mask after having cased some drug dealer's joint.

Kokey Kate? Seriously?

"something like" were the keywords; i'm not prophesying here

but yes its ridiculous

The thought didn't occur to me at all!

this was actually her original design for the LP cover:

http://www.dopenativeboy.com/wp-content/uploads/jeezy_snowman_tee_logo.jpg

Perfect for the Class of 2017 dorm-room walls.

what is this purported pedosnowman img?

http://www.katebush.com/

they hit you with it right off the bat.

http://www.katebush.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fullwidth_image/JCB-BW.jpg

Awww yeah!! :D

"A Little 'Snow' At Christmas Never Hurt Anyone!"

Eh, what's with the furs? Kate, I thought you were my veg buddy.

She addressed this after more people complained:

A note about fur and photographs

From Kate...

Hi there,

We have recently taken some photos and I just want to pre-empt any concerns there might be as I'm sure most of you will feel the same way as I do about wearing real fur. All the fur in these photos is synthetic.

Best wishes,
Kate

I don't even get the point of wearing fake fur, but at least it's not real...

Redeemed! Thanks LBI!

xpost dunno, is it warm or something?

There's a review of this in the new Wire btw. Unsurprisingly the reviewer is kind of luke warm on it (it is the Wire after all):

50 Words For Snow is like a wintry riposte to the midsummer day of Aerial's conceptual suite, A Sea Of Honey. Instead of the amber glow of midsummer sunlight, it's another kind of brightness - the whiteness of snow - that presides. The mood is subdued, the backing spare, meditative, but - as we've become used to with Bush - lacking in any adventurousness of spirit; at points, you could even describe it as late night jazz club tasteful.

Also, didn't we predict the following upthread? Can't say I'm relishing the prospect...

Stephen Fry playfully intones the 50 synonyms of the album's title track

don't forget about the proper album thread Kate Bush // 50 Words For Snow

muah!

Thanks, I completely missed that thread!

Kate Bush - Manchester Apollo 1979-04-10 SOUNDBOARD

up on d1mead0zen right now, previously unknown/uncirculated

Source: VHS of unbroadcast Granada TV 'On The Road' film taped on April 10th at the Manchester Apollo.
Lineage: VHS to CD-R.

boy would I love to see that VHS

Big Boi hints at a collaboration

i don't see how any good can come from this

like when björk/timbaland finally happened, there's something...tardy about this

they should've done it in the early 00s

It wouldn't have been good even then.

I did see a stack of promo CD singles just now in R&TE, Berwick Street.

"Running up that hill (Deal with God) 2012 version"

£40 each.

Some collaborations should exist only in the imagination - if at all. This is one of them. If this happens it can't be anything but embarrassing for both parties. yeesh.

Also : "...Loch Ness Monster's forest in London"? Haha.

I'd be okay with him just turning up in some spoken word capacity but honestly I can't imagine many artists whose music is less suitable for MCing over than Kate Bush's and I highly doubt that this collaboration is even in the pipeline in the first place.

This collaboration is so heartwarming. He's like her biggest fan:

http://www.spin.com/articles/short-history-big-bois-kate-bush-obsession

Big Boi, if you're reading: All You Cruisers - THE KATE BUSH VOTING THREAD (ilm artist poll #24: deadline Saturday 25 August)

Love it:

Pitchfork: You've talked about wanting to collaborate with Kate Bush before, how's that going?

Big Boi: It's coming, man. I talked to her on the phone. She's cool as hell-- I didn't know she said that many cuss words.

har

http://bushygifs.tumblr.com/

hmmm

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m728exw0A31r61th7o5_r1_250.gif

"I have got a Kimble"

a friend pointed out the other day that the field's "over the ice" is more-or-less entirely composed of samples from "under ice" and slightly blew my mind

yep. that's why it RULEZ.

Same thing happened to me this year despite having known and loved both songs for ever.

may 2007 lay heavily upon all your heads, forever

btw i hear "kappsta" is based on angriest dog in the world incidental music, can someone confirm?

nice little piece, on KB and the Gothic:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/news-bfi/features/let-me-grab-your-soul-away-kate-bush-gothic?utm_content=bufferbe55b&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebookbfi&utm_campaign=buffer

less than a month until the live shows ARGH

less than a week fuck ARGH they've been rehearsing all week omFGGGGGGGM

can't say i've ever been more excited about a show.

this is gonna be amazing, hope something gets released eventually

I am ... so, so happy for those of you going to this show. <smiles at you beatifically, a single tear of joy shining on my cheek>

looking forward to seeing a set list! if you're going, have a great time. I bet it'll be amazing.

I unexpectedly got tickets last week :-D

I'm not sure I will be able to handle september tbph

i really don't know how i'm gonna stay composed throughout the show

there's gonna be so many ppl in tears lol

Yeah for the ~event~ alone I wish I was going. I mean, the first MBV reunion show was intense, but this...

I'm so incredibly jealous of everyone going.

Only Kate Bush can make me feel like a childish fanboy even though I'm a grown ass man

Simon Reynolds:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/aug/21/kate-bush-queen-of-art-pop-defied-critics-london-concerts?CMP=twt_gu

Haven't got a ticket. Got a kidney to spare in return though (hardly used)

The Channel 4 doc was p great: http://youtu.be/kjsL3x0NWyc

Big article in the Sunday NY Times as well.

One thing that (BBC) doc reminded me of: John Harris on Newsnight Review being wrong about Aerial.

Oh yeah soz it was the Beeb instead of C4.

that was a weird thing to put in; I mean they (understandably) didn't spend huge amounts of time on things post- Hounds of Love (ie: they didn't bother talking aobut the long form video for the Red Shoes) but they barely touched on Aerial at all so why bother spending time on a newsclip of someone (wrongly) knocking it?

also: I'd heard that there was something about Del going to the press or something; are they still on good terms? I'm surprised he talked at all about the breakup in this.

Such an awful doc: again talking heads almost always saying nothing (Neil Gaiman's 'this is a person that reads books' was particularly annoying), gossip (that moment when the guy who is asking the question attempts to pry into the relationship KB might've had with the keyboard/producer person), the one academic (trotting out the usual rubbish). No ideas - makes you quite glad that no money was spent on it either.

thank you

"the keyboard/producer person"

that was Del Palmer, her primary collaborator on just about everything! Not just some 'person'

i'm listening to aerial while sick and omg this record is perfect

When it came out, Amber loved it while Alice was "No.. No.. No more song about washing machine..."

that bbc4 doc was so disappointing. thee only people who said anything of interest other than insignificant, meaningless anecdotes were maybe brett anderson and people who actually worked with her. a complete anti climax. the latest issue of mojo is better for it at least attempts some history but even that is just a transparent cash-in (a run down of her 'best moments'). simon reynolds' guardian piece was better than anything in that doc.

Short version of my oft told anecdote:

We were both on the same tv show one time, but my fellow pop panellists were kept well away from herself, even backstage.

dress rehearsal in front of 4000 friends and family last night. surprisingly little leaking out about it.
anyone know anyone who went?

ah, she knows who her (tight-lipped) friends are

tell us the long version of the anecdote Mark! which TV show, when etc?

Ummm

It was called "The Saturday morning show" LWT, I along with three others reviewed singles, discovered I have no TV presence so sacked that as a career. Top single was Graham Parker, presenters were Steve Jones (the one that looks like brains off thunderbirds) and Elvis Payne.

when.. 1979 I think. Look up "Protection" G.Parker for a close date.

************************SPOILERS****************************** Two photos have leaked and two song titles, Wuthering Heights (with some sort of hang drum arrangement) and Moments Of Pleasure, reports of a 2'50" set.

reports of a 2'50" set.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZhSRu6Sh1ZHJbxZIKv6IM5i4kbrW2xAP0SsqMXGCX2DQKlKWQ

Wuthering Heights (with some sort of hang drum arrangement) and Moments Of Pleasure, reports of a 2'50" set

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Blinking_exclamation_mark.gifhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Blinking_exclamation_mark.gifhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Blinking_exclamation_mark.gif

haha @ josh

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo6opvlmSJ1qkrirro1_500.gif

http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo6opvlmSJ1qkrirro1_500.gif

Steve Coogan really spoiled that BBC doc. Needed more Tricky; and much more Lindsay Kemp.

needed no opinions whatsoever from fucking pop stars i don't give a shit about tbh

Coogan was really terrible in that yeah. Tbf I liked the bit where (st Vincent?) kept going on and on about how terrible it would be if anyone else tried to sing "hounds of love"

There was enough Lindsay Kemp, nice bloke but didn't have much more to add.

Coogan at least managed to provide a 'lancing' of those oh-so-funny Kate impersonators that basically waved their arms around and screeched.

They went with what they could get, and there's not much available for "50 words for Snow" beyond Stephen Fry (who was on the album) and some artists who had a 'favourite'.

Anyhow, treat it as the first half, with the "Kate at the BBC" comp as part two.

(They really should repeat the "Kate" show completely, really)

Interesting that they had the "KT Bush Band" version of "Come Together", perfect sound quality..

bat for lashes did herself no favours. nice to see Del Palmer talking though yeah.

Tbf I liked the bit where (st Vincent?) kept going on and on about how terrible it would be if anyone else tried to sing "hounds of love"

yeah i was laughing at the Futureheads throughout that bit

i found tori amos pretty annoying myself

https://twitter.com/Mumbler3/status/504204976739319808

haha @ that one that got to no 1

and smiths ref

annndd what. phil collins?

ned, get thee to the jeff buckley thread

"haha"

apparently madonna, bjork and grace jones are in the audience

I NEED A GROUP PHOTO

Danny Baker started a rumour that Bowie's joining her onstage.

Photos photos photos...

http://www.theguardian.com/music/live/2014/aug/26/kate-bush-first-before-the-dawn-gig-live-blog#block-53fce61ce4b06f5272fb3f62

Bate Kush

that kush

baked kush

who is danny baker and why would he know? that would be insane though

also images already posted, looks nuts

http://www.theguardian.com/music/live/2014/aug/26/kate-bush-first-before-the-dawn-gig-live-blog

what are the odds that peter gabriel shows up during the run at some point?

for a special don't give up take

now I'm fucking mad I can't make these shows.

I'm considering avoiding pictures, liveblogs, this thread &c till Ive seen the show next week. I know the idea that you can "spoil" a concert is kinda dumb but I think that anything particularly holy-shit about the way they present these songs might have more impact if it comes as a suprise

Didn't Danny Baker play R2d2?

Talking about Danny's/Dan's, I wonder if she'd ever consider bringing in Danny McIntosh or even Bertie for that one track on 50 Words

bertie is there already, guardian has a photograph of him on stage in costume

Oh! I totally missed that!

sounds amazing so far.

so is this correct? No Wuthering Heights?

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/kate-bush/2014/eventim-apollo-london-england-23ce788f.html

Str8 trolling, heading back home on the train, mind blown. I urge anybody who is going not to read any reportage, seriously folks

It's not like we're jealous or anything you know.

Wins is 100% right, shit is crazy and the internet will spoil it

all us americans are going to look up the spoilers anyway since I think we have a next to nothing chance of getting to experience this live, unless she heads to vegas and sets up a residency for 5 years.

Don't remind me. It's awful. I can't believe she's not coming to NA.

maybe she'll surprise everyone

So sad I'm not able to go, I even F5'd the Grauniad's live blog :'-(

okay so fyi for those who do want to spoil it for themselves, http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/kate-bush/2014/eventim-apollo-london-england-23ce788f.html
is now accurate...

no idea why people would put such bullshit fake ones up... really weird. same with the supposed 'leaks' about the friends and family show - which had exactly the same setlist as tonight -

SPOILERRRRS!!!!
no wuthering heights, no moments of pleasure, and it was 900 or so poeple, not 4000!
SPOILERRRRS ABOVE!!!

i really want to keep away from all internet reviews and social media as it will be full of wankery - the experience of these shows is about kate and her family and fans and any contact with internet / press world will only irritate.

all i'll say is i've never seen so many happy faces - for me it was a wonderfully intimate experience, as insane and unexpected and fantastic as it could have been, pleasing the fans whilst also doing exactly what the fuck Kate wants to do regardless of anyone else.

love you Kate.

but yes, if you want a special evening - avoid pictures, setlists, and conversation. it is full of magic and surprises and you owe it to yourself to enjoy that to the full

oh only other thing i would say was it was a joy to be sat near Dave Gilmour, Paddy Bush, Del Palmer - made it even more special to be with the people that helped make so much amazing music happen

My friend actually got a ticket for tonight at face value from the Eventim website earlier today - so keep trying people!!!

okay must stop typing.

I thought I saw Paddy Bush, was he one block back from the stage at the front row of the middle block?

yes - bald with big white beard!

yay!

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/aug/26/kate-bush-before-the-dawn-eventim-apollo-review

The satirical website the Daily Mash claimed that, at the gig's conclusion, Bush would "lead the audience out of the venue, along the fairy-tale Hammersmith Flyover and finally to a mountain where they would be sealed inside, listening to Hounds of Love for all eternity".

SIGN ME UP

ok yet another setlist is posted.....sounds like this one is credible.

WoW, with two clips:
http://pitchfork.com/news/56476-kate-bush-performs-among-angels-at-first-show-in-35-years-video/

wow wow wow wow wow wow
unbelievable

you can tell that was filmed by a fan by the way they ignored the request not to film

^

My friend actually got a ticket for tonight at face value from the Eventim website earlier today - so keep trying people!!!

incredibly, there was one for sale just now. but it was gone by the time i got to checkout.

The actual setlist is way way better than the (quite low-key) fake setlist. Going next week, just ridiculously excited now.

Given it's like 90% culled from her best two albums it's virtually perfect, actually. I'm assuming that, given how choreographed the show reportedly is, it won't change much over the course of the tour.

Saw one of those clips, I think it would drive me insane if after all this time and all the effort to get tickets I was sat near a scrum of people all clapping along rhythmically and singing along at full-voice. If I were Kate Bush, I would decree no cameras, no standing, no singing along and clapping only at the end. Then I would kick everyone out and play to an empty hall, but project the performance on the surface of a flowing river.

otm

I agree, but it was the last song of the show, so if it only happened then I'm kind of ok with it.

I daresay both the clapping and singing along would have been less intrusive than it sounds on a shitty iPhone video.

yes - it was only the last song and the PA totally overpowered any annoyance. the crowd were 99.9999% impeccable and friendly and great.

so who was in the band aside from David Rhodes?

Superb write-up by Simon Price for The Quietus: http://thequietus.com/articles/16098-kate-bush-live-review

man this is killing me :/

but it's just completely out of reach/possibility moneywise to even think of going to one of these

I'm holding onto a sliver of hope that she comes stateside but it seems to be a pipe dream

People I recognised in the band.

Omar Hakim (who was a bit 1988 with his overplaying at times)
John Giblin
Jon Carin
Maynard James Keenan

some other dudes

Omar Hakim – Drums
Mino Cinélu – Percussion
David Rhodes – Guitar
Friðrik Karlsson – Guitar
John Giblin – Bass
Jon Carin – Keyboards
Kevin McAlea – Keyboards
Jacqui Dubois – Backing vocals
Sandra Marvin – Backing vocals

Adrian Noble – Artistic/Theatre Director
Naná Vasconcelos – Musical Director
Basil Twist – Scenographer Chris Vaughan – Director (Workshop)
Derek Arnold – Puppeteer (Workshop)

Any idea who the performers/dancers were?

most of them were the backing vocalists / bertie etc in different costumes. a small group playing a lot of different roles basically

"Maynard James Keenan" was this a joke ?

what's the setlist for tonight then?

It's really inconceivable that the setlist will vary much if at all over the 22 nights, since it's apparently so set to staging, but who knows.

Saw a report there was an extra thirty minutes tonight!

Jeebus. Does she have another side-long suite she hasn't played yet?

she just played extra slow

the small 6 song section at the front and the two last songs are the only places variations could happen

seems like a blackout on today's show..

setlist fm has the set listed as being the same as last night, for whatever that's worth.

I wonder if they'll release the rumored expanded Whole Story anthology now. Quite curious what the tracklisting would be.

not interested, but they might do some digital compilation now.

really hoping there's going to be a dvd of this, if not a livecast toward the end of the run. They did it for fucking monty python's turgid retirement, why not this?

This is the free newspaper that litters every morning bus and train in London and other metropolitan cities in the UK... The headline is entirely unsupported by the text. What a hopeless rag.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/27/kate-bush-comeback-hit-starved-fans-are-demanding-refunds-4848306/

aren't Mint Royale some dweebs off Britain's Got Talent?

hey, don't fault her

Mint Royale had a hit single with Lauren Laverne a few years back (nice, NickB). It was a joke tweet ("Watchdog" being the consumer affairs TV show on BBC1). It's now a half-page splash in a national (free) newspaper about "angry fans demanding a refund".

Me, I'm just consoling myself that I'm not missing anything off The Dreaming.

Jon Carin – Keyboards

good for him! he went to my high school on lawn guyland. he was in this band with another high school dude before hitting the big time backing pink floyd & the who & everybody:

http://stylecouncillor.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/stranger.jpg

John Giblin – Bass

^ has played on three UK no. 1 singles by three different artists iirc, none of whom were kate bush

you can't hurry love, belfast child, lady in red fyi

now there's a poll for you

like "lady in red" needs to sweep another poll

Arthouse opportunity missed by not having Gabriel/Bush do a "Lady in Red" cover duet.

There are still 20 shows.

Funnily enough, the last time I went to the Hammersmith Apollo, Peter Gabriel DID turn up and do a guest spot. It was with The Magnetic Fields in...2002?

Oh wait, that was the Lyric Theatre.

Still, same postcode. PG probably has a little bungalow round there.

i'd like to imagine him sneaking in the back of the venue and on to the stage whilst whispering the lyrics to Intruder to himself

Omar Hakim – Drums
Mino Cinélu – Percussion
David Rhodes – Guitar
Friðrik Karlsson – Guitar
John Giblin – Bass
Jon Carin – Keyboards
Kevin McAlea – Keyboards
Jacqui Dubois – Backing vocals
Sandra Marvin – Backing vocals

Adrian Noble – Artistic/Theatre Director
Naná Vasconcelos – Musical Director
Basil Twist – Scenographer Chris Vaughan – Director (Workshop)
Derek Arnold – Puppeteer (Workshop)

Minus the puppeteer.

Haha! Well - it's got strong ECM ties (Vasconcelos, Cinelu) and given KB has/had an affinity for ECM it's no surprise. If Eberhard Weber was able to play and be part of this crew...damnnnn.

David Rhodes is an interesting guy – was in a hugely underrated new wave band called Random Hold before becoming PG's guitarist

basil twist is fucking awesome btw, would love to see what he's doing with this

Still find it vaguely hilarious that Carin plays in both Gilmour's and Waters' bands

Fridrik Karlsson was in in Mezzoforte...an in demand session guitarist now...who remembers this 80's classic

http://youtu.be/gmSDTutGyIw

Funny I could see KB dancing to that at the wrap party for 'The Dreaming'...

'I played viola on Kate Bush's last LP, and laughed myself silly at her nonsensical lyrics about snowmen'

old british man doesn't much care for kate bush, news at 11

that's what I thought, but I looked him up and he was born in 1967!

if you h8 k8 yr soul is old and decrepit

his allmusic credits don't include 50 Words for Snow, although they do include the Aiden Grimshaw album

http://www.allmusic.com/artist/bill-hawkes-mn0000212207/credits

The credits for 50 Words for Snow just mention an orchestra with no names named

hired plain, with no names mentioned

haha

load of old bill hawkes

I enjoyed that Bill Hawkes' letter - it was refreshing in the face of what we've heard over the past month. I like KB well enough but "obsequious, unquestioning critical acclaim heaped upon this manifestly overrated singer" is pretty otm and I do rate her. She's good, but ffs she ain't that good!

yes she is.

we don't need a KB backlash, thanks tho

she is that good, but some of the fanwank is a bit wanky tbf

The latter is just 'classical musician doesn't really rate pop musician pt-10000000000000000' rather than 'speaking truth to power' but I'm pretty sure there are some really annoying fans at those gigs.

Balanescu quartet's repertoire is straight up garbage.

I have to admit I didn't check anywhere else but here, but are there still no reviews from the later shows?

Most publications will only review the first night of any performance or series of gigs.

First night is up on d1m3 if anybody is interested.

Any chance that will make it outside of dimadozen any time soon?

If the mods would let a wetransfer link on the thread, maybe

assume it'll be on slsk eventually

if anyone still uses that

slsk is quietly still really good

Links are out there on some blogs but unfortunately all are dead as a doornail. Wonder if she's got a Prince-like anti-bootleg radar on now.

old british man doesn't much care for kate bush old british woman, news at 11

I did wonder if there was likely to be any of it appearing anywhere. I now have the 1st night playing so wonder if any others are going to appear. I think this is pretty obviously an audience recording, sounds pretty clear but has a very enthusiastic crowd audible.

Steveolende would love to hear it!

It's on Dime. Does sound pretty good though.

& Dime's worth getting onto if you get the chance to.

They don't allow anyone to sign up right now, is the problem.

Oh right, I thought it was a question of persistence. Certainly was when I joined. Having to keep going back over a period of several hours and try again. After being initially told that there were no places at the moment.
Has that changed?

Just struck me that it would take far less time to get copies from that source than having to wait for a copy to come through the post etc

Found links. thanks

2nd Night up too, I'm told

Yeah, just found a load of early demoes are up there too. & several dates from the '79 tour. Including an Xmas special video from Birmingham.

Hearing her do "And Dream Of Sheep" is just... This first night recording sounds great, btw. Fantastic for an audience recording.

Listening to Night 2 now and noticing her voice is more confident in the first few songs compared come to Night 1. Beautiful witchy energy. LOVE

Also - an amazing audience recording. Technology sure has moved on haha

*SPOILER*

One of the things I loved is the Gregorian part in Hello Earth that they looped about 5 times at the end, while she was carried off stage into the audience by the fish skeleton people.

dear god i wish i was there to see that

Georgian not gregorian (/pedant)

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsintskaro

I love that piece. Looking forward to hearing these bootlegs.

Wow, thanks for that — I had no idea that wasn't original to her song.

Whoops, indeed, hardly pedantry when faced with such brazen wrongness :)

There are four version on Spotify, one of which sounds like it was recorded in an aviary and uses female voices, it's lovely

Wow. Always thought this was recorded by Popol Vuh for "Nosferatu". Never knew its origins.

love that song and georgian male choir music in general

I used to have a cassette on the Touch label of Soviet-era choral music. I just found the sleevenotes on the web:

"In 1932, a group from the remote town of Pik Grandiosnyy, situated in the Vostochnyy Sayan near the Mongolian border, set out to escape the Great Famine and headed west. Having eaten their livestock, the villagers were forced to walk; the journey would take two years. This collection represents some of the songs they sang on their way."

I think of Schnittke's Choir Concerto too.

11 albums in the top 50 album chart this week.

http://www.officialcharts.com/albums-chart/

I'm going tonight. I don't think I've been this excited about a gig since I was a teenager.

Going Saturday. I, much to my surprise, haven't got excited at all.

Unlike my son, who got so into it he became an information source for the Mirror and the Guardian on the first night DESPITE NOT EVEN BEING THERE. He's as excited as an excited thing about Saturday.

THAT WAS SO GOOD.

Like, I was prepared for it to be great but nowhere near as surprising and astonishing as that.

Fucking incredible. So glad I avoided this thread & had no idea what was in store. The 2nd half was exactly what I was praying it would be, and executed better than I could have hoped. Jamie otm, so many ear-to-ear grins

Had to love the unofficial merch guy outside selling BEFORE THE DOWN posters for £2 :-D

incredible show. her voice is in such fine shape

lol @ all the concern trollers upthread who thought it'd all be too much for her

Ha yes

I feel like week one of a really long engagement is maybe not quite time to judge ykno

You're right, I withdraw my earlier praise & will reserve judgement on the show until all the data is in

-_-

That was pretty great overall, but personally I thought the Ninth Wave was a bit too actor-y for me and I didn't enjoy the final song at all - way too umpty-tum for my taste. The main part of the second half was astonishingly good though, and the new part to it just made it even more prog (which is of course no bad thing).

prayers answered and all that:

http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/sep/11/kate-bush-to-release-dvd-of-london-comeback-shows

I will confess that the staging of the end of the Ninth Wave did remind me of that bit in Zelda where all the characters come to greet you on the beach and start dancing around.

Went on Friday. Was in more or less the worst seats in the house* but that was incredible, the second half especially. Emotionally drained after it. A Sky of Honey seemed to end up somewhere much darker than the record.

*back of the circle under some house lights that stayed on. Gave us a good view of anyone slipping off to the loo, arriving late, etc. Special shout out to the couple leaving about a minute before the end of The Ninth Wave, during the Georgian fish-bone-head funeral procession.

Anyone read Graeme Thompson's Kate bio? Saw it used today and thought about picking it up.

/hijack thread revival
Apparently there is 2 versions of the Red Shoes album. The good version is one of my favorite albums. Seriously underrated album. I skip to the end of the first track though.

Not the very end. I still listen to the weird experimental section of rubberband girl.

which is the good version? there was a remastered one that came out with director's cut box, which I haven't heard but does it really sound any different beyond some mastering changes?

Just finished the Thompson bio. Liked it very much. Lots of detail re: recording. It's worth picking up for sure.

The 2011 remaster is the one I'm most familiar with.
Honestly, I don't know if it's much different than the original - but boy did that original get a lot of hate back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_ivkVwIG9Q
only 480p but here you go

Maybe I've just always assumed there are 2 versions since I don't really know what the haters are listening to

Only 480p? But I want to watch that album artwork in 720p!

480p is typically 128kbps stereo, albeit comparable to something better because YouTube down samples quite well. With 720p and higher you can usually expect 192kbps or higher stereo AAC quality

I got the Rob Jovanovic bio last year in the Google Play store, but it's still there laying dormant. I'm pretty much a non-fan of Jovanovic, unluckily he's the only one writing bios of some of my favorite groups. I've already had to endure his books on Big Star and Pavement.

did we never talk about the fact that those live shows contained a very long interlude about sausages

the film of this is never coming out, is it

Kate Bush live album from 2014 shows to be released

Tracklist:

01. ‘Lily’
02. ‘Hounds Of Love’
03. ‘Joanni’
04. ‘Top Of The City’
05. ‘Never Be Mine’
06. ‘Running Up That Hill’
07. ‘King Of The Mountain’
08. ‘The Astronomer’s Call’
09. ‘And Dream Of Sheep’
10. ‘Under Ice’
11. ‘Waking The Witch’
12. ‘Watching Them Without Her’
13. ‘Watching You Without Me’
14. ‘Little Light’
15. ‘Jig Of Life’
16. ‘Hello Earth’
17. ‘This Morning Fog’
18. ‘Prelude’
19. ‘Prologue’
20. ‘An Architect’s Dream’
21. ‘The Painter’s Link’
22. ‘Sunset’
23. ‘Aerial Tal’
24. ‘Somewhere In Between’
25. ‘Tawny Moon’
26. ‘Nocturn’
27. ‘Aerial’
28. ‘Among Angels’
29. ‘Cloudbusting’

did we never talk about the fact that those live shows contained a very long interlude about sausages

nice, but I thought they filmed it and were gonna release a video?

Been listening to two boots from the first couple of nights for a while now. I skip the silly "comedic" interludes w/ her kid but the rest is so great. Looking forward to this release.

there is video on youtube, which I haven't watched yet, of entire shows

But I imagine that is not an official recording?

Prologue from this is really fantastic, extended to twice the length of the studio version with a completely new section. it's a real shame they're not releasing the video though.

it's that kind of primeval thing where you're trying to think, 'Can I get to that tree before the tiger gets me?'

live album is quite a nice piece. really wish i'd been there.

Suspended in gaffa is one of the best songs I've ever heard

best artist ever, no one will ever come close

did it really turn out she was a tory/brexiter? that would bum me out so much

she came out as a supporter of Theresa May/Tory, yeah.

Wasn't her Thatcher and May support limited to her appreciation of there being women in politics? And confessing she didn't really follow politics?

Yes.

She also sang "Ken" about Ken Livingstone, a bunch of years ago.

dang...well..she seems pretty uppercrust i guess :/

Person from Bexleyheath in Tory support shocker.

Kate Bush - Ken
United States Of America - Love Song For The Dead Ché
Morrissey - Last Of The Famous International Playboys

New thread - people who don't deserve good tribute songs.

The love of Richard Nixon..

If anyone's interested, I write a blog on Kate's music song-by-song: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/08/01/the-man-with-the-child-in-his-eyes/

awesome thanks!

Nice!

Caught up with, and RSSed for future posts -- thanks! :-D

Oh, I don't believe I linked this, but here's my most recent blog post. My "Violin" essay should be up next week. https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/08/22/pick-the-rare-flower-on-fire-inside-a-snowball-so-soft-neverthless-youll-do-stranded-at-the-moonbase/

Wow good work

Kate Bush photo book is very very expensive. Cant do it.

Guess I'll keep sharing these until someone tells me not to (and even then...). Here's the story of Kate Bush inventing folk punk: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/09/26/violin/

keep sharing these, thanks!

A total vanity project, this book, as was the Scott Walker one. I won’t be getting it, and it won’t be getting this fan, for sure.

i read elsewhere there was a rumor of another huge box set next year of all her work. I'd probably splurge for it again.

would love get repressings of some of her 80's work individually

Remasters and B sides comps and such!

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/kate-bush-announces-remastered-albums-in-a-series-of-box-sets/

shut up and take my money, etc

otm

90 per vinyl box set seems a bit steep tbh

Still baffling IMO that there hasn't been a classic Greatest Hits/Best of/Gold type thing. The Whole Story was 30 years ago!

12" remix disc with only like 30 minutes of music on it that omits numerous tracks = DUD

Poor public service - she's definitely a Tory

LOL

the cover art is hilariously gross

Will these be sold seprately? I’ve been looking for a hounds of love reissue that doesn’t cost $100+

you'll pay $520 for the entire collection on vinyl and like it

The albums are also being released separately, but not the four rarities discs in the boxes (what did you expect?).

Awesome! Hopefully they don’t surpass the $30 dollar tag. It’s as much as I’m willing to pay.

Overall, it's kinda a disappointing collection for longtime fans. If you're doing an 11-disc box set and asking over $100 for it, why not make it a 12-disc and give your fans all the b-sides, remixes, and ephemera instead of leaving it incomplete? Why not throw in a blu-ray with all the videos, Live at the Hammersmith, and the Line, the Cross, and the Curve?

otm

Bit mystified by this 100 dollar hounds of love reissue tbh, you can get a near mint copy off discogs for 10 euros

The ideal would have been something like the Purple Rain reissue which was clearly being aimed squarely at the non-casual fan; triple CDs of rarities, live films, offcuts and outtakes. This is more like a reissue from some time in the late 90s.

other than video stuff, the This Woman's Work box set was pretty comprehensive at the time!

the $100 Hounds of Love vinyl reissue was one of those MFSL kinda things that cost like $50 new to begin with, are limited runs, so instantly costs $100 on the secondary market... the original vinyl pressing sounds great, so just snag one of those in good condition for $10-15 like Colonel Poo suggests

if you can find a mint original then that's true. the audio fidelity issue (which is the one I have) sounds great though. didn't know it was going for that much these days.

I'm torn on this. part of me wants this even though I have all of these except for Aerial and Red Shoes so I really should buy just those; plus, why in god's name didn't she include Not This Time? Ken I can do without but Not This Time is one of her absolute best b-sides.

could probably fund this if I sold my This Woman's Work CD box which TBH sits unplayed on a shelf. Maybe I will. Dunno.

the cover art is hilariously gross

The bizarre Fish People artwork has been around since Director's Cut. I doubt it's Kate throwing shade at CD buyers; I guess she honestly thinks it looks good.

Wish she'd have done a deluxe reissue series like Jethro Tull has been doing, whatever your feelings about their music are, their deluxe editions are fantastic.

The bizarre Fish People artwork has been around since Director's Cut. I doubt it's Kate throwing shade at CD buyers; I guess she honestly thinks it looks good.

Hey, since Bush is putting out some old demos, why not read about a few more of hers? https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/10/17/255/

anyone ever see that video where the delius associate hears the track from NFE and says that delius wouldnt have liked it, lol

To be honest her album covers have never been very interesting or good looking.

uh what

lol

the dreaming is absolutely a beautiful cover, as is NVE

wait what? her album covers are all-time, as is the artwork for the singles:

https://www.katebushencyclopedia.com/sites/default/files/2017-08/symphony_in_blue.jpg

we could have a poll just on her cover art!

Hahaha I don’t like the style sorry. The Dreaming is really good though that’s my favorite album cover from her.

Any fans of Oh To Be In Love here? https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/11/14/oh-to-be-in-love/

yes I like that song a lot

holy shit at dolphin cover.

The last batch of demos, on Joan of Arc, Gala Dali, and lesbian vampires: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/11/21/carmilla-where-are-the-lionhearts-dali-while-davy-dozed-frightened-eyes-organic-acid/

Has anyone bought the remasters on vinyl?

not yet but I will be doing over the next few months. reports are good.

weird promo for the remasters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkcJR-EV1Uc

Listened to all up to The Sensual World. Tye most impressive to me has been "Never For Ever" - it just sounds a bit more expansive in the right places. As for the rest I didn't notice any overwhelming improvement. "The Sensual World" is still a slog to get through.

The Sensual World is the one where the world finally catches up with Kate. She never completely escapes that afterwards

Oh, I wrote some words on Hammer Horror, femininity, and the Gothic for those interested: https://katebushsongs.wordpress.com/2018/11/30/hammer-horror/

I love the Sensual World. Still don't understand why everyone doesn't.

Yeah my fave of hers (alongside HoL)

I feel there's 1-2 songs on Sensual World that drag it down a bit compared to the previous three records, but the highs are as high as any of her work. That "mmmmmm yesss" gets me every. fucking. time.

Too many chunky rawk guitars and a claustrophobic mix. The title track is fine as is "This Woman's Work" but it's the album where she went from an idiosyncratic, often visionary sound on the three previous albums ( I like the first two fine but they're just stepping stones) into a disappointing ( for me ) MOR direction.

I'd recommend giving this remaster a listen if you find the mix claustrophobic. I've always liked the sound and mix of this album and I think there are more chunky rawk guitars on Red Shoes and even on Never Forever personally; but the remaster really gives this album some more space and light. I think I've given most everything a listen digitally now. I did order the first vinyl box and will relent and get the other three as my bank account allows.

though Director's Cut doesn't necessarily sound any better and still seems wholly unnecessary to me.

Also: she swapped out the Big Sky on Hounds of Love with the single mix, which I was worried about until I realized this wasn't the extended mix; there's just some added keyboard in the background at the beginning which after a few listens I have to say I prefer to the original.

Also: ditched Rolf Harris on Aerial for her son. Also an improvement, I think.

anyone find Aerial on vinyl in the US? (not the box, the standalone version).

Kate would like to clarify something for you all

http://www.katebush.com/news/clarification

"Again with no response from me to the latest resurfacing of this article, it could make it seem like I am a tory supporter which I want to make clear I am not."

Undying love restored.

lol i knew she was lib dem all along

lmao

It's highly unlikely that one writes a song like 'Breathing' and then becomes a Torycan.

did people genuinely think she was a Tory?

like I've seen some people being all "so relieved!!11!!one" on Facebook and I'm like... did you ever listen to anything she's ever done and think this was the work of someone who would lean that way politically?

If you read the article at that time, of course people genuinely thought she was a Tory. She basically said so (something she now retracts).

I mean, the original quote was just along the lines of "it's wonderful to have a woman in charge" which is a sentiment I've heard fairly often from people, generally older, moderate-ish women, who would not otherwise say they support the Tory and/or Republican party if phrased that way

"We have a female prime minister here in the UK. I actually really like her and think she’s wonderful. I think it’s the best thing that’s happened to us in a long time. She’s a very intelligent woman but I don’t see much to fear. I will say it is great to have a woman in charge of the country. She’s very sensible and I think that’s a good thing at this point in time."

Yes, it is about a woman being in charge. But in the context of Brexit and British politics as a whole, this reads as a strong endorsement if there ever was one.

I had forgot about the "I actually really like her" part - it's still not an outright admittance but it's not exactly great is it

still, I think it's easy enough to overlook - if you could only listen to artists whose politics align with yours and behave in a way you approve, you would drive yourself crazy eliminating artists from your interests

did people genuinely think she was a Tory?

yes, it was referenced a lot on this site

lol I skimmed that part because I thought it was just hype for the reissues - I'm not a massive fan tbh but the way certain corners for the music press and fans acted you'd think she had renounced her career and not just, y'know, made some very questionable political choices

ffs I am a fan of Kim Campbell despite her being a Tory and having done a really bad job

still, I think it's easy enough to overlook - if you could only listen to artists whose politics align with yours and behave in a way you approve, you would drive yourself crazy eliminating artists from your interests

― boxedjoy, Tuesday, January 8, 2019 11:37 PM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

No-one's saying we can only listen to artists whose politics align with ours. But for KB to say May is "wonderful", "best thing to happen to Britain"... Tell that to my friends struggling under Tory command.

I've enough dealing with still listening to and enjoying Death in June and a boatload of black metal bands and other pricks. I didn't need KB added to the mix, so I'm glad she clarified the matter, albeit two years later.