All You Cruisers - THE KATE BUSH VOTING THREAD (ilm artist poll #24: deadline Saturday 25 August)

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Here she is.  I'm keeping this simple, so the normal rules apply:

• submit your top 20 tracks, in order; 40 points go to your number one, 12 points go to your number twenty; I'll distribute the points in between accordingly.
• submit your top 3 albums (optional); these score seven, five and three points.

I've tried putting together a full song list, album-by-album.  B-sides are noted under the album they belong to.

THE KICK INSIDE (1978)

Moving
The Saxophone Song
Strange Phenomena
Kite
The Man with the Child in His Eyes
Wuthering Heights
James and the Cold Gun
Feel It
Oh to Be in Love
L'Amour Looks Something like You
Them Heavy People
Room for the Life
The Kick Inside

LIONHEART (1978)

Symphony in Blue
In Search of Peter Pan
Wow
Don't Push Your Foot on the Heartbrake
Oh England My Lionheart
Fullhouse
In the Warm Room
Kashka From Baghdad
Coffee Homeground
Hammer Horror

NEVER FOR EVER (1980)

Babooshka
Delius (Song of Summer)
Blow Away (For Bill)
All We Ever Look For
Egypt
The Wedding List
Violin
The Infant Kiss
Night Scented Stock
Army Dreamers
Breathing

December WIll Be Magic Again
The Empty Bullring
Passing Through Air
Ran Tan Waltz

THE DREAMING (1982)

Sat in Your Lap
There Goes a Tenner
Pull Out the Pin
Suspended in Gaffa
Leave It Open
The Dreaming
Night of the Swallow
All the Love
Houdini
Get Out of My House

Dreamtime
Lord of the Reedy River
Ne t'Enfuis Pas

HOUNDS OF LOVE (1985)

Running Up That Hill
Hounds of Love
The Big Sky
Mother Stands for Comfort
Cloudbusting
And Dream of Sheep
Under Ice
Waking the Witch
Watching You Without Me
Jig of Life
Hello Earth
The Morning Fog

Be Kind to My Mistakes
Under the Ivy
Burning Bridge
My Lagan Love
The Handsome Cabin Boy
Not This Time

THE SENSUAL WORLD (1989)

The Sensual World
Love and Anger
The Fog
Reaching Out
Heads We're Dancing
Deeper Understanding
Between a Man and a Woman
Never Be Mine
Rocket's Tail
This Woman's Work

Walk Straight Down the Middle
The Confrontation
I'm Still Waiting
Ken
One Last Look Around The House Before We Go

THE RED SHOES (1993)

Rubberband Girl
And So Is Love
Eat the Music
Moments of Pleasure
The Song of Solomon
Lily
The Red Shoes
Top of the City
Constellation of the Heart
Big Stripey Lie
Why Should I Love You?
You're the One

Show A Little Devotion
You want Alchemy

AERIAL (2005)

King of the Mountain
π or Pi
Bertie
Mrs. Bartolozzi
How to Be Invisible
Joanni
A Coral Room
Prelude
Prologue
An Architect's Dream
The Painter's Link
Sunset
Aerial Tal
Somewhere in Between
Nocturn
Aerial

Sexual Healing

DIRECTOR'S CUT (2011)

Flower of the Mountain
Song of Solomon
Lily
Deeper Understanding
The Red Shoes
This Woman's Work
Moments of Pleasure
Never Be Mine
Top of the City
And So Is Love
Rubberband Girl

50 WORDS FOR SNOW (2011)

Snowflake
Lake Tahoe
Misty
Wild Man
Snowed in at Wheeler Street
50 Words for Snow
Among Angels

MISCELLANEOUS

Don't Give Up (1986, with Peter Gabriel; from So)
Experiment IV (1986; from The Whole Story)
Rocket Man (1991; from Two Rooms)
Candle In the Wind (1991; b-side to Rocket Man)
The Man I Love (1994, with Larry Adler; from The Glory of Gershwin)
Lyra (2007; from The Golden Compass)

I don't expect any track from Director's Cut to outscore its original counterpart. Does anyone?

I'll combine the totals for different versions, remixes etc - I really only listed The Director's Cut separately because 'The Sensual World' changed its title to 'Flower of the Mountain', and in case anybody wants to vote for it in the albums poll.

alongside the psbs this is the one that means most to me. top 3 is set in stone.

my ballot will be extremely canon, almost feels redundant

I don't know much KB, but I hope this gets a big turnout.

I don't really like Kate Bush much but I think "James and the Cold Gun" is a fuckin jam so I wanna lobby for that one, when you guys are getting excited about all that Hounds of Love stuff remember "James"

EVERYONE VOTE FOR EXPERIMENT IV

thank you

I don't really like Kate Bush much but I think "James and the Cold Gun" is a fuckin jam so I wanna lobby for that one, when you guys are getting excited about all that Hounds of Love stuff remember "James"

Great song, Kate in Thin Lizzy mode.

Thinking of just voting The Ninth Wave as #s 1-7.

Also, I reckon nobody voting in this will have missed out on Aerial, but fwiw I will lobby heavily for Nocturn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-xsCXEvR6M

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

xp. that's one of my top 3.

ooh this will be the first one of these I'll be able to participate in

out of the less known tracks, i want to rep hard for "be kind to my mistakes" - absolutely gorgeous

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpVKPUoI554

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

Which album is that on?

Can we rule 'Don't Give Up' ineligible please? I like it but it's not a KATE song. If that, why not 'No Self Control' or 'Games Without Frontiers' as well?

I'll open this up for views, please. I always thought of it as an equal duet so I threw it in. I don't know these other tracks so can't say much, but I didn't include Let It Be if that helps.

I might actually vote in this one. Though it will be total canon if I do, soz.

Do 'The Dreaming' and 'The Hounds of Love' even have 'deep cuts', really? I suppose you could say "All The Love", "Houdini", "Mother Stands For Comfort", "Watching You Without Me".

Easier with the other albums - I always think of "Never Be Mine" as a deep cut for instance.

The middle section of Hounds of Love is all deep cuts.

Apart from the songs I mentioned? I think 'And Dream of Sheep' and 'Under Ice' and 'Waking The Witch' are pretty canonised...

I listened to "One Last Look Around The House Before We Go" as I left the house I sold last month for the last time. It'll be strange to vote for a Kate song without vocals, but I will.

Not that anyone'll be under a misapprehension, but I should've made clear: The Ninth Wave and An Endless Sky Of Honey do not count as single tracks. Cherry-pick your favourites from them - I expect every ballot to have at least one from each.

kind of wish you could vote for her re-recorded version of Wuthering Heights that's on The Whole Story

^^^

I intend to, though I expect all ballots for the song will be combined.

She was a better, deeper singer by the time of the re-recording.

I'll combine, but do highlight things like this, or if it's the Director's Cut versions or whatever, and I'll asterisk them. All knowledge gratefully received.

Ballot submitted but already regretting not voting for "Mother Stands For Comfort." It's like a lost vocal track from Another Green World, and a wonderful little moment of restraint and claustrophobia amid the spacious landscape of side 1 of Hounds. Devoted most of my ballot to what I think are some of her quieter and stranger songs, but neglected this one. In context I think it's weirder and more effective than about half of the Ninth Wave. Hope others will give it some love!

I intend to.

IMPOSSIPOLL.

tempted to post lots of youtubes to her early demos from when she was 15 which i love too.
you can grab them all from http://www.dongrays.com/kate-bush/mp3/

Ballot sent. This will be interesting.

Every other artist polled, except Depeche Mode oddly, has seen their late period shut out from the final countdown. There's absolutely no reason for that to happen to Kate.

I can't imagine people ignoring Aerial or Snow, but they might suffer from lack of consensus on which tracks are the favorites.

I'd think there's relatively strong consensus on Snow - there's only three good tracks to begin with.

I don't know yet what I think of Snow tbh. There's one track I'm certain I'll vote for, but I doubt it's the consensus pick.

I only voted for one track off Aerial - found it hard to single out anything from the second disc, it feels too much of a piece.

starting to listen through her discog now. Moving is a fantastic and underrated album/career opener, presents her fully formed.

I like most of Snow, but Snowflake is probably the only track I'll vote for.

the four keepers from the debut for me are Moving, Strange Phenomena, Man With The Child and Wuthering.

I only voted for one track off Aerial - found it hard to single out anything from the second disc, it feels too much of a piece.

i ran into the same difficulty w/r/t aerial but i think my solution might be to just vote for the entirety of aerial

the four keepers from the debut for me are Moving, Strange Phenomena, Man With The Child and Wuthering.

The original vocal on Wuthering is hard to listen to if you know the new vocal she recorded for the version on The Whole Story. The difference is Top 20 Kate and Top 5.

man, really? i love the OG vocal so much, how it swings from the rafters

i've never really cottoned to the re-recorded version but maybe i haven't given it a fair shake

On my fifth past and still have 34 left. This is after the "so only leave those you cannot live without" pass. And I have just had to lose Army Dreamers and that's just wrong!

For what it's worth, I too love the re-recorded Heights vocals.

On my fifth pass and still have 34 left. This is after the "so only leave those you cannot live without" pass. And I have just had to lose Army Dreamers and that's just wrong!

IKR. Getting down from 30 to 20 was painful. But it's done - ballot sent. And "Army Dreamers" survived. :) Most of the other hit singles had to be cut though - on the sole ground that they'll probably get enough love in others' ballots.

Lionheart is mega mega underrated.

also the OG wuthering >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> remake

i only really know her singles well. voting anyway because i think experiment iv needs my help too

Big ups for "Lily" from The Red Shoes, which also got a nice makeover on The Director's Cut.

Yeah, Lily's one of two or three from that album in serious contention for me. Haven't heard the Director's Cut version, but I've always loved the original.

I'll be submitting a list this evening - just come back from holiday and am having a Kate day. Just checking - presumably the deadline is 11.59pm UK time?

Yes, but I'm not going to be too strict about it - if it arrives before I turn my mind to it tomorrow it'll get counted.

i done it!

Which would be preferable, a short ballot that's basically a ranking of The Whole Story, or no ballot at all?

I'm going to (controversially) say no ballot at all - I haven't tallied for a while, but there were some interesting things showing up last time I did and I wouldn't want to see them pushed down by all the singles getting an unfair boost. Do join us for the countdown though!

Alfred - there's an anomaly in your ballot, check your mail.

Fair enough! I was dubious about casting an uninformed ballot just for the sake of voting. I will save my save my ballot and see how it compares to the results.

alright, sent. lemme know if you didn't get it, ismael.

the kick inside - 3
lionheart - 2
never for ever - 3
the dreaming - 3
hounds of love - 4 (worked hard to cut this down, could have been half my ballot)
the sensual world - 3
the red shoes - 2
aerial - 2 (both disc 1)

director's cut - 0
50 words for snow - 0 (only because it's so new to me)
non-album - 0

I've just acknowledged one that doesn't say 'contenderizer' but I think is yours, try again if you don't get my hearty thanks

I'll try to get one ready by the deadline. time's never on my side anymore

yep, that's the one. thanks again, IK!

IK, thanks for the massive work you are doing here and taking over from my absent bottom. Will run up hills to get that ballot to you before midnight.

sort of half-improvised my list which led to this:

the kick inside - 0
lionheart - 0
never for ever - 2
the dreaming - 4
hounds of love - 3
the sensual world - 2
the red shoes - 3
aerial - 4

director's cut - 1
50 words for snow - 0
non-album - 1

intense kate bush listening marathons that led to that list also made me realize i like the red shoes a lot more than the sensual world

I have given up. I started to think about a week ago that there was no way I would manage it and I have proved myself right. Every time I listen to an album I completely rewrite the ballot.

boo to all the early album haters. if you can't get behind crazy progmetaltheatrefolk 70s kate bush, i, i, i just don't know

i don't hate them! they're just not on my ballot for some reason?

jk ;)

have had VIOLIN VIOLIN running through my head for days

intense kate bush listening marathons that led to that list also made me realize i like the red shoes a lot more than the sensual world

I'll send a wedding invitation on Monday

check your email, Alfred

NTI - you've listed the same song at nos. 9 and 13 - pick another no.13 please

goddammit. i just realized i sent in a list of 22 songs. which i suppose just means that the bottom 2 get cut. thinking about losing those two makes me second guess the end of my list, which makes me second guess the rest of my list, but fuggit. what's done is done. just cut those last two off IK.

Sent in my ballot! Yay!

Wish Bimble would've still been around to take part in this, fuck :-(

xp yes, I just cut the last two off. Quite a few people have submitted five albums, rather than three, and I've done the same there

I'm going to sleep now. I'll close voting when I get up in the morning.

Wish Bimble would've still been around to take part in this, fuck :-(

sent!

the kick inside - 2
lionheart - 1
never for ever - 2
the dreaming - 3
hounds of love - 4
the sensual world - 5 (!)
the red shoes - 0
aerial - 2
director's cut - 0*
50 words for snow - 0

non-album - 1

damm you

ha genuinely didn't realize that breakdown until i typed it out up there - my top 25 had two from red shoes and one from 50 words of snow (the one about YETI). NEVER would've pegged me for a sensual world dork before this (still don't really - dreaming all the way), felt vaguely challopsy putting it in my top 3 albums.

Ballot submitted:

the kick inside - 1
lionheart - 0
never for ever - 2
the dreaming - 5
hounds of love - 6
the sensual world - 3
the red shoes - 1
aerial - 2
director's cut - 0
50 words for snow - 0
non-album - 0

mine btw:

kick inside - 3
lionheart - 1
never for ever - 3
the dreaming - 3
hounds of love - 2
the sensual world - 3
the red shoes - 0
aerial - 4
director's cut - 0
50 words for snow - 0
non-album - 1

Anybody else? Last chance to get one in

I'll try to get one in in the next hour.

Grand. I have one space left on my chart, so I'll wait for yours then I'll close things off.

So ... hard ...

There we are.

Okay, voting is now closed. Thank you everyone for your contributions.

wait, i've changed my mind, i wanna redo the whole ballot

kick inside - 2
lionheart - 1
never for ever - 4
the dreaming - 5
hounds of love - 4
the sensual world - 1
the red shoes - 0
aerial - 2
director's cut - 0
50 words for snow - 1
non-album - 1

actually, non-album should read 0

i wanna redo the whole ballot

I know. I've done the adding up and now I know exactly how I should've voted.

How long a countdown do we want? A hundred songs have received votes; there are natural breaks at nos. 15, 25 and 50.

how many ballots? i'd say 50

36 ballots

That's a pretty good turnout, I was worried there'd be fewer than 20.

Yes it's excellent, we did really well. Twenty was my basic target and I got twelve in the first few days, so I knew not to panic when I then went about three days with nothing. And I got eleven yesterday and three more overnight, so you really stepped up at the end, thanks.

And it was only nine days, no need to drag these out unduly.

OTM -- "Do or do not, there is no 'try'," saith the little swamp critter.

took a short road trip with a family of friends this afternoon and picked ipod tracks as we drove around. among other things, i played "violin" off N4E - mostly because i'm obsessed with it, but also cuz mr. friend is a "weird music" fan and had mentioned that he only knew kate bush through "don't give up." he dug it a lot, and mrs. friend thought the vocal swoops were hilarious, but man, their five-year-old daughter just HATED it. complained at first, then plugged her ears the way through. nothing else bugged her, either. she seemed to enjoy sonic youth, fall out boy (a lot), grimes and lindstrom. felt kinda bad for her, but it's good to learn young that art = suffering.

haha, i'm not surprised that a kid would dislike that song, it's pretty abrasive in it's own way

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