Covidiots in music

Noel Gallagher
Aphex Twin
Ian Brown.

Who else?

Mutya Buena

Jim Corr

Madonna

Rev Horton Heat

oh yeah in that case add Smashmouth

M.I.A.

Wiz Khalifa

Great White

Tbf there are different tiers of covidiocy. Each is characterized by a particular fixation: face masks, vaccines, 5G, microchips, etc.

Sammy Hagar

and jim corr is right at the top of the tree

Renaud

Julian Cope

not really

he might well be, list is depressing enough already

M.I.A.

― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul), Thursday, September 17, 2020 10:39 PM (fifteen minutes ago)

Really?

Technically she's an anti-vaxxer, but she revealed it in reaction to the pandemic. Counts in my book.

Julian Cope? Really? That one makes me sad

Brown and Gallagher have always been fucking chavs, although the former has written some great songs at least

Vanilla Ice

M.I.A. is just the worst. She practically wanted a parade for getting an MBE, which seemed to nullify everything she once appeared to stand for

Tech N9ne

Kaitlyn Arelia Smith is anti-vaxx, so she should possibly go here, too

I’m just gonna say Kid Rock

Tom MacDonald

Mike Stock

Tbf there are different tiers of covidiocy. Each is characterized by a particular fixation: face masks, vaccines, 5G, microchips, etc.

― hey, trust the fungus! (pomenitul),

Aphex Twin said we were a police state. I think that puts him ahead of noel gallagher refusing to wear a mask. It puts him in the ian brown category,

https://www.residentadvisor.net/news/72357

He was always a low level 9/11 truther but this was still a kick in the nuts

https://www.coronavirusworldnews.com/coronavirus-uk-the-thes-matt-johnson-spreads-bill-gates-covid-19-conspiracy-theory/

All weed-heads aren't they? Not judging just saying.

It's not easy to think outside of the hotbox.

xxxp RDJ also posted a bunch of covid truther links to his soundcloud when he uploaded that batch of tracks (I assumed that he uploaded them mainly to draw eyes to the links). Think he later removed the links.

what did Julian Cope do?

this tweet suggests he's being responsible but it's old

Due to the coronavirus pandemic, Julian Cope has – with great sadness – felt obliged to cancel the remaining five dates of his Winter 2020 tour. pic.twitter.com/o4q6EWumdn

— Julian Cope (@JulianHCope) March 16, 2020

Cope hasn't done anything. A poster decided to post his name as a 'joke'

To no great surprise, Ted Nugent

"covidiots"? ay ay ay

Nobody's mentioned Van Morrison yet?

https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/van-morrison-fight-the-covid-19-pseudoscience-and-speak-up-1.4338343

Chuck D was posting conspiracy-flavored stuff a few months back; don’t know what his current line is.

Wiley

Yes Ivan, let’s bring back all those audiences that you clearly relish playing for any other time

Van Morrison has always had a few screws loose, unfortunately

Timely:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/entertainment-arts-54194498"> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/entertainment-arts-54194498

Sir Van Morrison has accused the government of "taking our freedom" in three new songs that protest against the coronavirus lockdown.

In the lyrics, he claims scientists are "making up crooked facts" to justify measures that "enslave" the population.

"The new normal, is not normal," he sings. "We were born to be free".

Oops, fucked up that link:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54194498"> https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54194498

Boomers gonna boomer

got nothing to do with being a boomer

yeah, almost all of these people are Generation X, not boomers

The list has a lot of people who have been known to be kind of gullible fools for some time, or people who generally have a reputation for ~not being very bright~ (Gallagher and Brown in particular) - but I've been struggling with my inner fanboy over the RDJ thing for some time, since he resurfaced around the time of Syro and started up with various truther discourse - so the covid stuff is not a surprise, but it's still v v depressing.

There are people where it kinda goes with their schtick, but with RDJ, I really wanna grab him by the shoulders and go "you are actually *smarter* than this?" He's bright, he's sciencey, he was educated, in that he got halfway to a degree in electrical engineering, this man is not a fool?

But I guess that's sometimes the thing with conspiracy thinking, that conspiracies can *be* especially flattering to people who have experienced being brighter than most people around them, (not hard in the music industry!) and this is one of those stereotypes I hate reinforcing, but Autists, especially ones with Aspergers, like RDJ, in particular are very susceptible to it - that if you are constantly noticing weird shit that neurotypicals just *don't*, that it leaves you very susceptible to believing that you have access to special truths that neurotypicals don't or can't see.

And for a conspiracy brainloop to really take hold, it's like it has to piggyback on something you already care a LOT about. (Like how anti-trans ideology can canibalise both feminist activism AND virulently anti-feminist activism, because these are issues that people care about very deeply!)

RDJ has always had a very serious anti-authoritarian streak. And this idea that 'Britain is a police state' - the thing is, there are many ways in which Britain already *is* very like a police state. All the jokes about 'rainy fascism island' are getting at something - the abuse of Stop and Search, the suppression of protest, the absolute impunity of the police to murder citizens with no repercussions, the wholesale deportation of the Windrush generation, etc. etc. etc. - but his established anti-authoritarian special interest doesn't seem to fixate on those genuine abuses. It leaps sideways onto something tangential which affects him (he can't leave his house) and instead of landing on something with a basis in fact (the Tory government is absolutely mishandling the epidemic) it leaps into 'being quarantined = oh noes here is the police state'.

Sorry to bring politics into ILM, if this was intended to just be a list thread. 'Why do people get caught up in weird conspiracy theories' is one of my long-term special interests, for obvious reasons.

you'd think maybe the group of absolute foolish poltroons (who most of you'd cross a road to avoid) who make up th C-19 truther gang might make RJD pause for thought somewhat? I find it unforgivable that ppl who are otherwise silent about genuine human rights abuses committed by the British state are jumping on the Icke bandwagon ffs!

Wiley's rep is so done in now he could become the official PIE spokesperson and it wouldn't be newsworthy!

Van Morrison already was affiliated with PIE as evidenced in his passive pedophilia song, Cypress Avenue!

maybe one for the PaedIdiots in Music thread where lots of legends of the delta blues who otherwise are treated with upmost reverence get brutally cancelled!

Is wealth and age the main factor (for musicians)?

I think maybe isolation from people who would expose them to better ideas if a factor? There's definitely a bubble factor going on.

I don't know! It's speculation.

I think that maybe ~having a self image as a rebel and anti-authority figure~ is an inclination. Mistrust of official sources, etc.

if they knew people who would ridicule/rip the piss out of them, or even calmly reason with them it might just make them dig in deeper.

Is wealth and age the main factor (for musicians)?

List seems pretty multi-generational to me, tho I don't think I've seen any new/relevant artists take this stance yet.

feel like there are a lot of people out there who are like this, it's just that musicians are asked their opinions more often, or have a wider audience when expressing them on twitter

I only skimmed it but Aphex's take seemed more nuanced that the usual shit (I think a member of his family actually died of covid?) It was more 'this is serious but we are also at risk of stumbling into even more of an authoritarian police state'.

OTOH Aphex has regularly been full of shit and I wouldn't be surprised if he turned out to be here as well.

Noel Gallagher is the amusing one because his every pronouncement these days reveals him to be less intelligent than his brother (whose approach has been basically 'ffs just wear a mask').

Aphex is a notorious wind up merchant and a massive stoner, which might be a factor.

RDJ's father died recently (apparently not from Covid) so he is probably in a weird place.

I think your description of his take is pretty (overly) charitable, compared with what was screengrabbed and posted on Reddit (after being removed) but this is what is still up on his Soundcloud:

https://off-guardian.org/2020/08/15/the-reaction-of-the-left-to-lockdown/

John Squire (as opposed to Brown) seems to also be pro-mask.

he passed the eleven-plus and attended a grammar school, so probably a bit brighter than the gang of chimpanzees he hung out with!

Yeah OK I only read an RA report on what Aphex posted, the original is pretty much what you'd expect and yeah I was definitely being charitable.

I’d run a mile in case he coughed on me ooooohhhhh

— Liam Gallagher (@liamgallagher) September 18, 2020

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOHn6KurHE0

He wears masks he’s a proper little hypercondreact prob got a fancy designer 1 he’s just trying to get in on the argument he’s prob bored I would be if I was him

— Liam Gallagher (@liamgallagher) September 18, 2020

proper little hypercondreact is the name of my dog

this is one of those stereotypes I hate reinforcing, but Autists, especially ones with Aspergers, like RDJ, in particular are very susceptible to it - that if you are constantly noticing weird shit that neurotypicals just *don't*, that it leaves you very susceptible to believing that you have access to special truths that neurotypicals don't or can't see.

All good stuff on RDJ. Sorry to pick this one bit out of a well reasoned post but it's amusing because my 'aspergers' means that when I get hold of rules like "2m distance" or "masks in shops" I can tend to be extremely diligent about them. Which in itself may look like authoritarianism fandom. But my acceptance of them is based on my own heuristics for determining truth and value, so at that point I don't feel it's acquiescence to a top-down dictum at all but rather personal responsibility.

No, my statement that you picked up on there was about Autists and our specific vulnerability to 'systematically comprehensive, completely logically consistent but warped worldviews' even when they're wrong or incomplete (e.g. things like incel ideology.) We are susceptible to those systems of thinking, precisely because we *do* tend to develop our own heuristics, rather than relying on social pressure and convention and all the other weird things neurotypicals seem to go by.

I wasn't saying 'autists love authoritarian fandom!' - I was saying more 'autists love to march to our own drumbeats' (but this does leave us susceptible to some really odd drums, and I think this is what's happened to RDJ, who used the word Asperger's to self-describe, hence why I used it.)

(Personally, as an Autist, the idea that I never have to go closer than 2m to another human being ever again is my idea of heaven!)

I totally got what you were saying there btw, which is why I apologized for taking a bit out of context.

I think a tendency or ability to embrace rules can be (generally very wrongly) equated with authoritarianism random.

I feel there's a responsibility to cultivate good heuristics but maybe that's not entirely fair as it depends tonquite a large extent on your environmental inputs.

I feel like Van takes the crown here by not just spouting off bullshit in interviews, but by actively recordings songs about his dumbassery.

tbh these songs will be hilarious and I'm looking forward to them

Hold my beer

Lyrics from the new Ian Brown single

“A sonic lockdown in your home town / A sonic lockdown, can you feel me now? / A sonic lockdown, state shakedown, a mass breakdown / Put your muzzle on, get back in your basket / Get behind your doors cos living here is drastic.”

Oh wait, already mentioned nvm

Holy fuck at that Ian Brown song.

Even ignoring the hilariously awful lyrics, it's atrocious on every level.

I'm afraid to ask, but -- what does "sonic" lockdown mean?

Sonic lockdown:

https://pm1.narvii.com/7472/532adba41481986b677ea945c96d32fb206ae64er1-512-278v2_uhq.jpg

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/bc2820ef08e27bb265b65640f17bd6c51d462486/0_0_3635_5589/master/3635.jpg?width=700&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=d36b4531528296afc93aac71835d8c28

ok uh who is RDJ? wasted 5 min already searching.

aphex twin

ah, ok. thanks!

Richard D James

the D now stands for dumbass

Just listened to that Ian Brown song and it's definitely "masonic lockdown" imo which is straight-up David Icke conspiracy nonsense. Fucking cretin.

Dr Evil, and his needle

I'm sorry but that is hilarious and I am having that.

Ian Brown was trotting out gay mafia-type conspiracy theories 20 years ago, he's got form for this sort of thing.

Sorry to bring politics into ILM

LOL

List seems pretty multi-generational to me, tho I don't think I've seen any new/relevant artists take this stance yet.

I do wonder why this is. Could it be that the RJDs, Noels, and Vans have far less to lose at this stage of their careers? Tough to imagine a younger, up and coming artist potentially committing career suicide by expressing these opinions (though maybe Kaityln Aurelia Smith fits the bill? I don't know, haven't seen the evidence she is a Covidiot))

my acceptance of them is based on my own heuristics for determining truth and value, so at that point I don't feel it's acquiescence to a top-down dictum at all but rather personal responsibility.

this is pretty much my position and the objectively sanest approach imo

Angel Olsen shared a link to Plandemic on her instagram stories

really?! she usually shares BLM stuff, seems properly well-read and researched about that and voting rights, LGBTQ stuff, women's rights and such.

Woof this Ian Brown song is really embarrassing, even without the lyrics

really?! she usually shares BLM stuff, seems properly well-read and researched about that and voting rights, LGBTQ stuff, women's rights and such.

It is one of the great fallacies of our time to expect people who have good political views to have good views in other domains (or for that matter to be good people in their personal lives)

angel olsen posting the plandemic video and then taking it down by saying she "got got on the gram playa" jesus christ

— dana danger (@womensrites) May 17, 2020

lmao

can someone under 40 translate that please

i'm under 40 and no i can't

My guess is that she's blaming Instagram's video player.

the new "I was hacked"

Her dog posted it.

Jesus built my instagram

can't believe i forgot Robbie

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/robbie-williams-pizzagate_uk_5ef4b086c5b643f5b230474d

Jello is finally wearing a mask now, but earlier...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxe8Cg3VKu8

he could lose more teeth in street fights

always a thoughtful and nuanced take from jello

really?! she usually shares BLM stuff, seems properly well-read and researched about that and voting rights, LGBTQ stuff, women's rights and such.

It is one of the great fallacies of our time to expect people who have good political views to have good views in other domains (or for that matter to be good people in their personal lives)

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 20 September 2020 bookmarkflaglink

I'd be really surprised if someone was pro-BLM, etc. And then turned out to have anti-mask/vaccine opinions

Have we had a thread where we come up with conspiracy theories that are at once wildly fanastical but could hold just enough sway over people that they might believe them?

It is one of the great fallacies of our time to expect people who have good political views to have good views in other domains

The pandemic is a political issue, shouldn't be but it's the world we live in.

How could it not be a political issue, in any world?

I'd be really surprised if someone was pro-BLM, etc. And then turned out to have anti-mask/vaccine opinions

― xyzzzz__, Monday, September 21, 2020 8:08 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

https://www.the-sun.com/news/962604/ice-cube-calls-bill-gates-bunker-bch-spreads-conspiracies-about-covid-vaccines-epstein/

tech n9ne did a concert that was not distanced

Jello looks spitting image of Colin Mochrie up there

anvil, everything's political an' all, but I do think that if this had exploded a few decades ago it wouldn't have been weaponized for culture war purposes to the same degree to the extent it has

No, but there'd still be debates about what the right thing to do would be, even without culture war weaponization

If this had happened a few decades ago, when remote work & distance learning would not have been possible to nearly the extent they are now, my guess is that the degree of economic & social disruption (and probably # of deaths) would have been greater, and the public debate would may have been even more intense in certain ways.

Have we had a thread where we come up with conspiracy theories that are at once wildly fanastical but could hold just enough sway over people that they might believe them?

I'd be really surprised if someone was pro-BLM, etc. And then turned out to have anti-mask/vaccine opinions

I'd be really surprised if there weren't plenty of people who fit this description.

There literally are!

The Jill Stein libs for one

A former colleague of mine fits that description, partially because he's a conspiracy nut in general. It's been sad watching him spiral into COVID-19 related paranoia, culminating in an outburst against Facebook and YouTube for "choosing what I can believe" when they took down the debunked conspiracy videos he wanted to share. Very. Very. Sad.

No, but there'd still be debates about what the right thing to do would be, even without culture war weaponization

Sure, but that's different from the "corona? lol!" attitude most of the artists discussed here are taking.

https://imgur.com/B1KiNol

https://i.imgur.com/B1KiNol.png

You ever notice that 999 upside down is 666? Coppers are in on it too Danny

just love the idea of writing "words matter" under any old tosh, going to try this from now on, thanks danny

"Account suspended"

https://twitter.com/DannyRampling

ALL OF YOU RUNNiN ABOUT SHiTTiN YER KECKS CHiLL THE F*CK OUT

— Ian Brown (@ianbrown) September 24, 2020

Browny mate, I already admired you for your music, attitude, outlook and haircut... and now your approach to all this nonsense with the "pandemic". Right on King Monkey!! 👌✊

— Bryan Bithell (@BryskiB) September 24, 2020

Brown nose

It is becoming increasingly obvious why Danny Rampling is often referred to as Danny Dumpling.

I have a feeling DJ Qbert may be on the Covidiot spectrum.

yeah, i saw some recent crap re q-bert that made me question his groove.
however, seems like he has done some back peddling :

http://trueskool.com/forum/topics/exclusive-interview-dj-qbert-clears-the-air-after-controversial-t

ok.

It is becoming increasingly obvious why Danny Rampling is often referred to as Danny Dumpling.

His Instagram Stories are wild.

He's also shared a video on there that claims the forehead temperature checks are actually a ploy to condition people to having guns pointed at their heads and that the infrared from the thermometers are irradiating people's pineal glands.

!!!!

don't do drugs, kids

Right Said Fred!?

This is pretty much where we are.... pic.twitter.com/tE3RiAnLSU

— Right Said Fred (@TheFreds) September 27, 2020

they’re just too sexy for their masks

Right Said Fred are also Brexitty

Lol... all these years, I thought they were German.

I interviewed R1ch4rd F41rbr4ss a few years ago and it was supposed to be for an oral history of I'm Too Sexy on its anniversary (!) and instead of being keen to chat about his experiences travelling the world at the peak of his fame he was so very keen to chat about Brexit and Scottish independence. Big supporter of both from a leftist perspective, local rights etc. Really bizarre experience.

Travis Tritt

Lana del Rey, to no one's surprise

i dunno, she made a bad mask choice unless i'm missing something else. does that make her a covidiot? i guess it does here.

yeah, not a COVID truther or anything, just someone for whom aesthetics are more important than safety. which should surprise mo one

a mesh face mask is pretty idiotic wrt to covid so...

it's not a "bad mask choice" it's no different than not wearing a mask

Definitely a covidiot

Clapton....more like Crapton....

Haha LDR's new album is to be called Chemtrails Over the Country Club. I was hoping it was ironic at least, or.. something.

I know I'm Cap'n Save-a-Lana and the mask thing was clearly very stupid, but there's no reason I'm aware of to think she's an actual COVID truther or whatever, just a too-committed aesthete.

Still makes her an idiot though, which fits the thread title even if she isn't on the level of Van.

I mean, it shows a stunning disregard for her fans to show up at a promo event with a mask like that, which is more infuriating to me than some dipshit tweeting stupid stuff.

I know I'm Cap'n Save-a-Lana and the mask thing was clearly very stupid, but there's no reason I'm aware of to think she's an actual COVID truther or whatever, just a too-committed aesthete.

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Tuesday, October 6, 2020 12:02 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

just a too-committed aesthete.

if i had 8 eyes to roll, i'd roll them all

A mesh mask puts her a half step before people who scream at service employees for asking them to wear a mask. All idiots.

thanks to this board I pointed out every "dick nose" I saw in public to my friend

idiot, idiot, idiot, not an idiot, not an idiot, idiot, idiot, idiot

https://youtu.be/Z_UGD7AazMI

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/morgan-wallen-not-playing-saturday-night-live-covid-1234796605/

thanks to this board I pointed out every "dick nose" I saw in public to my friend

Somehow this phenomenon makes me more angry/paranoid than seeing someone not wearing a mask at all.

hard to believe the rising bro country star didn't take the pandemic seriously

xpost yes because it's insulting.

"u seeee....it's almooooost there. almoooooost there. almoooost there. but nope, no nose-cover. on the droplets flow. u triggered?"

^yeah, it’s like—“you’re so close, wtf?”

Perhaps they don't understand how to properly wear the mask, or they find it uncomfortable/claustrophobic. As someone who's dealt with something called 'sighing syndrome' for decades now (look it up)...I can understand that anxiety.

I'm not gonna let myself get triggered every time I see someone not wearing a mask. I can wear my mask as responsibly as possible (with occasional slipups) and hope others follow. That's all I can do.

Perhaps they don't understand how to properly wear the mask, or they find it uncomfortable/claustrophobic.

oh well that's alright then

Don't understand how to wear a mask...after six months and google existing. Sure, i buy that.

I also buy that the average person I see wearing it incorrectly all coincidentally have medical conditions that make it harmful to wear. I'm sure the people riding coasters at Universal with masks on their chin are all medically compromised.

Like if you're going to wear it wrong, why bother with the charade at all? Droplets from nose is the easiest way to spread it. You aren't helping anybody if you don't cover it. It's like wearing a condom and poking holes in it cuz it's "more comfortable".

I hyperventilate sometimes during panic attacks and I had to wear mine 24/7 indoors while i stayed at the folks and my dad was recovering from surgery, even though I only visited the grocery store at the time. I managed.

I don't publicly shame or accost individuals who wear it wrong as maybe I don't have the full picture, plus rn I'll probably get stabbed. But yea, collectively? Fuck thst, I'll call it out as s practice.

It's the "what if there's an emergency" defense to defend pointless, disruptive texting during a movie, only with much higher stakes

I think the no nose covering folk I have seen are most likely people who pulled their mask aside for something, and forgot to replsce it. Like the 'wearing a mask alone in a car' thing, I think it's adequately explained by people being forgetful and distracted (as people tend to be).

nah some of them are just dicknoses

The employees at 7/11 who consistently chin-strapped knew very well where their mask was.

i had a guy at uhaul present a disgusting new variation that i hadnt seen before: mask down, covering only the bottom lip, upper lip over the mask, as if sucking on the top of the mask. Horrifying.

OMG

Like the 'wearing a mask alone in a car' thing, I think it's adequately explained by people being forgetful and distracted (as people tend to be).

Some ppl do this b/c they don't want to touch their face to remove it until they've had a chance to wash their hands. I used to do it myself -- but now that we know surfaces aren't as likely to be a source of transmission, I'm ok relying on hand sanitizer alone. (I knew I was probably being somewhat overcautious before, but I figured better to err on that side.)

I saw three dicknoses in the hospital today; one elderly patient and two nurses. Only one of those gets the benefit of any doubt over knowing how to wear a mask.

it's a form of checklisting. you're told you have to wear them to be in public places. you don't want to but you don't wanna get kicked out. so you half-ass it, knowing that fatigued employees are less likely to ask you to mask up or leave if you at least have it on.

it's kind of like your parents telling you that you have to finish your book report before you go to the movies, so you write a shitty three sentences that say "The grapes of wrath are about wrathful grapes." and go out anyway.

OTM. And its perfect for passive-aggressive deniability if anyone presses you on it: "oh i didnt realize it just slipped down like that, whoops"

i nicely asked the mask-sucking employee at uhaul that i dealt with to pull his mask up and he was astonished that i asked, grudgingly gave himself a dicknose, and then was doubly astonished i asked him to please pull it up all the way. ime dicknosers are generally just betting that other people will be too shy to ask them about it.

i sure af ain't about to tell some hulking no-neck to do it, and get shot up like a Dick Tracy villain

didnt RDJ once said that the sandy hook shootings were a government coverup to try and push for anti-gun rights legislator lol
also Gen X is just as bad as boomers, its just that they grew up with nirvana and green day so they like to tout themselves as superior

yeah sharing an era with Green Day has made me feel like a superhero

also Gen X is just as bad as boomers, its just that they grew up with nirvana and green day so they like to tout themselves as superior

I'm trying to parse what this means. I don't disagree that Gen Xers are just as bad about mask wearing as boomers, but I'm baffled about what Green Day and Nirvana have to do with it

That appears to be the first-ever ILX post by "1funeral2many," so I wouldn't bother spending too much time trying to parse it.

One monkey don't stop no show.

i nicely asked the mask-sucking employee at uhaul that i dealt with to pull his mask up and he was astonished that i asked, grudgingly gave himself a dicknose, and then was doubly astonished i asked him to please pull it up all the way. ime dicknosers are generally just betting that other people will be too shy to ask them about it.

We had a contractor over at our house (someone I didn't want to piss off) whose nose was exposed. I thought of a way to tactfully address it -- offered him a different mask ("If you need one, I know it's hot outside," etc.). He was cool about it; pulled up his for the remainder of the visit, I think it was a case of genuine forgetfulness.

I wouldn't bother spending too much time trying to parse it.

I am however going to spend quite a bit of time laughing at it.

I just didn't know if I missed, say, Tre Cool, revealing himself to be a massive Covidiot or something.

Assume Positive Intent. Trying to adopt this has brought me a lot of peace over recent years.

intent doesn't matter, impact does

https://www.tennessean.com/story/entertainment/music/2020/10/07/morgan-wallen-appears-party-maskless-ahead-snl-debut/5907167002/

No Saturday Night Live appearance now for country singer Morgan Wallen

Assume Positive Intent. Trying to adopt this has brought me a lot of peace over recent years.

Billy Corgan might give it a go soon.

Lennon's birthday today; no way he'd NOT be one. I mean if you just look at the lyrics on Sometime In New York City, he's a classic case. Yoko too, possibly.

"Free the prisoners, jail the judges
Free all the prisoners everywhere
All they want is truth and justice
All they need is love and care"

"We are born in a prison
Raised in a prison
Sent to a prison called school
We cry in a prison
We love in a prison
We dream in a prison like fools"

"There may be not much difference
Between Marilyn Monroe and Lenny Bruce
We check their coffins.
we're all water"

i check Lenny's coffin every Friday

those lyrics are just generic leftist sloganeering; just because current conspiracy theorists use anti-authoritarian rhetoric doesn't mean everyone else who does is simpatico

Yoko Ono, who is alive, had someone edit vintage clips of Lennon to give out a stay-safe-during-covid message (my day is worse for having found this out).

from the aquarium drunkard interview with probable trumpist tobin sprout:

Tobin Sprout: Right, the masks. I was on the board of the historical society, and we had to wear the masks for an hour and a half for this meeting. It was devastating and claustrophobic. We were far enough apart that we could take the masks off if we wanted to, and then there were a couple of people that didn’t want to, so everybody had to wear them. It is what it is, I guess.

"it is what it is"

sounds truly devastating, wearing a mask for 90 minutes

:(

god what a baby

I went to a podiatrist earlier today; she wore an N95 mask, and seemed like a cool enough person (I had seen her once before)... but when the conversation turned to masks, she turned out to be something of a covid "truther." It was kind of bizarre/unsettling.

It should be a shock that FIve Finger Death Punch just released an anti-mask video:

The video opens with a Ralph Waldo Emerson quote, "Fiction reveals truth that reality obscures," before launching into the action. The clip, shot in Los Angeles, starts with a Nancy Pelosi-esque political figure praising mask-wearers for being "compliant," even presenting them with a button displaying the Communist sickle emblem. There's also nods to zombies hoarding toilet paper and a work camp for the "People's Republic of America."

But eventually an uprising takes place with people ripping off their masks to head into a violent battle carrying American flags in pursuit of the female leader.

There are plenty of other symbolic nods throughout the video, including "The Great Awakening" flashing during a newscast, which is a reference to QAnon. There are also black-clad figures on leashes that are held by the female leader. They break free to start destroying property, which appears to be a reference to Antifa.

Read More: New FFDP Video Depicts Mask-Wearers as Communists | https://loudwire.com/five-finger-death-punch-living-the-dream-video/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referral

It should be a shock

it should?

they're not called five finger health punch

lol, sadly true

Yeah that sounds about right for FFDP. Oh well.

I stumbled across one or two songs of theirs that I liked, but that's about it.

ultimate FFDP would be better off if they weren't allowed to have arms anymore

In 1936 my GRANDAD JACK BROWN volunteered to the Internationale to fight franco's fascists in Spain. In 1941 he shot at Nazi Luftwaffe over Dover. SEE THE ENEMY.

— Ian Brown (@ianbrown) October 18, 2020

1985. I was a lazy ass pothead in a band.

Ian Brown is running a solid "don't do drugs" campaign this year

Ian Brown’s grandpa was cool

Milky bar kunt Twat Wanksock Chris Shitty Patrick Glaxo Jonathan Van Tampon Tier Stasi The British Army. Would you let any of this firm babysit your kids? Howzabout havin em determine every aspect of your life by government decree?

— Ian Brown (@ianbrown) November 1, 2020

lol

Stone roses are bad but that is quality

Nah, it's wank.

That first sentence is the best lyrics he's written in years.

He didn't start the fire

Isaac Hanson

Proberbs 9:10?
Probervs 9:10?
Probably 9:10?

mmmProb 9:10

turns out that Hanson fans were already heartbroken when they tried to get Hanson to say Black Lives Matter earlier in the year, and instead found out that Zac Hanson (a different Hanse to Isaac) is a transphobic, homophobic, Islamophobic gun nut who thinks George Zimmerman was right to murder Trayvon Martin and it doesn't matter what happens to refugees bcz "we don't have room for them"

did they all forget the Hanson kids were homeschooled

and that theyre Hanson

some of the fans in that thread are all "what a relief to finally be able to say that it's a bit weird that their dad picked their wives from a pool of elite superfans, and that even the non-racist one has seven children"

one of my friends ia huge Hanson fan (!) and she is gutted by what's gone on. When I first met her a few years back she told me an annual event where fans can buy tickets for a week on a boat with the band which sounds... intense

This is kind of like when normal people found out the shiplap HGTV show couple were evangelical weirdos with shitty views on LGBTQ rights (and probably many other things). How did you not see the signs?

might as well put this one here:

https://i.imgur.com/UzRLXoe.jpg

^ that's the hired singer from the band formed by the guitarist out of Ride in between Ride's split and his joining Oasis*, suddenly explaining why they aren't touring the US in the middle of a pandemic when international travel is banned. presumably his explanation for why they also haven't toured since 1997 will be forthcoming.

* true story: Liam Gallagher heard that he was joining Gay Dad and poached him instead

Are British Gen X musicians dumber than American or are we just lucky that King Buzzo hasn’t shared anti-mask memes in between Thomas Sowell quotes?

Kid Rock, Reverend Horton Heat, Smash Mouth, Hanson etc etc

Wow TIL that apparently Hanson is still a thing and apparently they have a big fanbase.

it always good to get a rampant socialism-on-the-march update from some brit-pop also ran cunt I've never heard of!

that's it, now YOU can kiss a hurricane#1 tour goodbye too

I can't remember the exact circumstances but istr thinking Andy Bell must have thought as highly of H#1 as I did when we just walked away from his own project to play with a fractured Oasis.

we = he

Weren't they widely hated for allowing a song to be used in an advert for The Sun?

And even a fractured Oasis must have seemed like a bill payer?

someone's done a drum cover of Ian Brown's covid song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGXFfqozao0

"FANFUCKINGTASTIC... LOVE FROM DEVON"

Guessing that will be Totnes, Devon

suspect Ian Brown is a late boomer not Gen X?

that guy from hurricane #1 has form

https://i.ibb.co/xFmT7J9/Capture.jpg

basically, never trust a band that looks like this

https://www.tapeterecords.de/fileadmin/Artists/Hurricane__1/Hurricane_1_0086__credit_Dave_Evans_.JPG

a mix between Brexit and Q with the swagger of dying from Covid-19

The guy was in a shit band and he's a shit artist. Not too surprising that a lot of these people are like D-list musicians, with notable exceptions

I'm guessing the sad remnant of a band that broke up to fill in gaps in Oasis going there with covidiot/antiantifa/racism shock posts that gather 24 likes and 3 comments might have struggled to sell out that US tour.

The band's twitter account is protected - presumably due to fallout from covidiocy/racism.

i'm going to guesstimnate that 21 of those likes were from Japan; the land where Britshitpop never died, and they have no idea what he was even saying.

As just posted to the Deftones thread, throw in guitarist Stephen Carpenter now.

Bonus content - he's also anti-vaxx and a flat earther!

Anyone admitting to COVIDiocy from this point out should be required to have a court-appointed (and HAZMAT-suited) guardian to keep them from gnawing through powerlines and swallowing handfuls of rusty screws and whatnot. Just complete soup sloshing around in those brainpans.

Hanson can get their ass kicked by the New Radicals dude any day now

major bummer about the deftones :(

Catching up on that Hanson story does actually highlight one of the good sides of rabid online stan culture, they are good at amplifying shit like that which might otherwise be largely unknown, even within the larger fan group. The fact that so many are willing to continue making it an issue and not letting them just skate on evasive answers is one nice side effect.

Bonus content - he's also anti-vaxx and a flat earther!

Antivaxx usually comes with the set but flat earth is fairly novel.

We're All Criminals - Teaser Trailer #weareallcriminals #thefreds #rightsaidfred #nolockdown #lockdowndontwork pic.twitter.com/4aoPJubnzK

— Right Said Fred (@TheFreds) November 13, 2020

fuckin pathetic

that was actually the backup title iirc

Sad - now I have to throw out all my beloved right said fred records

Alt Right Said Fred

Very good! Going to have to steal that.

god damn it I do actually use a Spanish language version of "I'm Too Sexy" in DJ sets sometimes, out it goes

I guess they're too sexy for a pandemic.

i'm.
too sexy for a mask.
too sexy for a mask.

Good to see Covidiot Jim Corr branching out into other fields

"Smartmatic and Dominion systems are built to do this very thing, built for changing the results of elections" - Sidney Powell, Attorney

The 2020 presidential election result cannot be trusted in any state using these systems. https://t.co/hn6RjaUjyx

— President-Elect Jim Corr (@Jimcorrsays) November 17, 2020

he's been a full-time conspiracy fruitloop for at least 12 years:

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/corrs-guitarist-911-was-an-inside-job-28454648.html

To be fair, it can't be easy to go through your entire career being the one person in a group who no-one is interested in, who no-one pays any attention to, who people don't recognzie and are not even sure who you are and what you're doing there up on stage with the Corrs.

He's got into a Twitter row with Jedward.

G’wan leave the whole country “breathless” from Covid because of your idiotic behaviour @Jimcorrsays 🖕🏼 pic.twitter.com/AptBunlTeY

— JEDWARD (@planetjedward) August 22, 2020

So are the heroic twins of Jedward the last remaining bulwark agains total covidiocy in music on the “British” Isles? Didn’t they also take on Ian Brown just recently?

Total legends.

Hi Ian you discredited yourself with your backward views and non logical actions👍🏻

— JEDWARD (@planetjedward) September 14, 2020

Ian Brown is retweeting MIA retweeting antivaxx garbage

Do we have an accepted collective noun yet? A confederacy of covidiots?

wait do i have to like jedward now? this year has been hard enough as it is

A ventilation of covidiots.

i'm sure this will be excellent listening

Music Legends Eric Clapton, Van Morrison Team for Anti-Lockdown Single ‘Stand and Deliver’ https://t.co/5RKtBYEb9x

— Variety (@Variety) November 27, 2020

"we can't make money selling overpric

Lol...

Failure.

"We can't make money selling overpriced concert tickets to idiot nostalgia-hungry Boomers, we demand to be given the right to have them die seeing us play shitty sets in overlarge venues!"

It's a bit of a shame that proceeds go to an organisation supporting musicians who've gotten into financial hardships due to covid, which is totally valid. It'd be more fun to roast if it was actually going to some anti-lockdown group.

yeah i guess its good that the funds will go to musicians in need. still, its a shame that the single generating the proceeds has a message aimed at prolonging the deadly conditions that make the lockdowns necessary - like releasing an anti-condom single to raise money for AIDS prevention.

You might die you might die you might die...

does dave grohl still deny aids btw

clapton’s involvement pretty much makes this fascist anyway

For oblique reasons I was looking up Crispian Mills and he broke a 3 year silence on twitter to protest that lockdown infringed civil liberties.

Who would have thought it?

3 year silence on Twitter, 20 year silence on the charts.

poshidiots in music

does dave grohl still deny aids btw

The Foo Fighters played a benefit organised by AIDS-denier bassist Nate Mendel in early 2000, and put up a wake up sheeple page on their website, which they deleted in 2002. The "won't get tested, or get her kids tested" HIV+ mom who was Mendel's connection to the movement died in 2008, of AIDS. Dave Grohl has since supported Elton John's AIDS Foundation.

Taylor Hawkins played a Vaccines Cause Autism benefit in 2013, though.

I didn't know Mendel was the source of that connection. super weird bummer

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2020/apr/21/i-felt-deeply-apologetic-how-one-mans-bucket-list-trip-put-a-community-at-risk-of-covid-19

I missed this, Supergrass put on a reunion show in August??? Is Gaz a Covidiot????

No it was back in March before lockdown.

This was a quick trip – leaving Melbourne on Thursday 5 March, concert on 7 March, a visit to the Tate gallery on Sunday, back home Tuesday night.

completely o_0 at that Foo Fighters AIDS page

In related news, this is the one that shook me up, been into her records from the early 80s on--musical persona is (so far!) quite different than this--from Rolling Jazz:

Presumably she's been this way for a while, but singer Cassandra Wilson unfurled her MAGA flag on Twitter yesterday in a big way. So much so that I saw someone refer to her as "Qassandra Wilson" and laughed before I did the search and saw that...yep, she's got the brain worms all right.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:16 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

what I don't get about that kind of thing, is why, after these four years, would you reveal that NOW?

― rob, Sunday, November 22, 2020 9:43 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

As with Sidney Powell, now is when the legit crazies are coming out of the woodwork.

― pomenitul, Sunday, November 22, 2020 9:46 AM

I just had a quick listen to the new Captain Sensible project, Sensible Gray Cells - "Get Back Into The World", and I couldn't quite tell if he's a covidiot or just mistrusting of the government in general.

Looking up an interview it seems to be the former: "but let’s have the old normal back please. Not this dystopian nonsense they’re trying to get us used to."

Yeah, see I saw that but it still could be the "don't trust the government" as opposed to "let's pretend there's no danger".

The album cover kinda seems like a visual joke that makes the title ironic, though scrolling through his twitter I'm not too certain of that.

Maybe I'm just biased against Sensible. Watching "Don't You Wish That We Were Dead" I thought his bemusement was telling when having to confront that basically everyone who's ever met him thinks he's a dick.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/rita-ora-throws-birthday-party-london-restaurant-covid-lockdown

Rita Rita Rita. Saturday was Albanian Independence Day too!

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/enemies-of-the-sheeple-why-do-pop-stars-fall-for-conspiracy-theories

30+ people at Rita's Party, £10k fine per head for breaking lockdown - you do the math! That's £3m or more for Serco's shareholders, after they get awarded the vaccine rollout and hire some teenagers to jab some needles around in an Asda car park somewhere.

Er, hate to be the math pedant here, but that's £300,000 fine, not £3m. Still.

wish I had £10k so I could say "fuck the rules" and it not be a significant issue to me.

I mean, I wouldn't because I'm not an utter arsehole, but it's good to see the different-rules-for-rich-people play out again

Seriously, like a lot of other fines and fiscal punishments, it needs to be on a sliding scale. I'm sure the rich would find ways around that too though.

I did say you do the math, not me.

Maths.

sometime-user DL's guardian piece linked above is a hurried half-baked nothing, really -- a dozen ilxors could have written a better i think

Some musicians are "autodidacts, attracted to the juicy secret knowledge that you won’t get from the mainstream media, while lacking the analytical tools necessary to sort the wheat from the chaff."

he may not exactly mean this implication (a good sub shd have challenged him on it!) but the "mainstream media" also largely lacks "the analytical tools necessary to sort the wheat from the chaff", or at any rate too often doesn't bother to use it. musicians as a counter-media thrive bcz the institution they're countering -- wich they have dozens of valid reasons to despise -- does its job fitfully at best, and this is a far more pertinent reason for the rise of the problem than e.g. weed or stubbornness ffs lol

I think the mainstream media has been good about delivering & reinforcing accurate COVID information, though.

ok then

Surely the important question is how Rita Ora has got any money

Also I note briefly in passing that sensible DL managed a dig at the hated left

tbf, if he'd just written "a lot of musicians are thick as shit" I don't think he would have made the minimum wordcount

it would still have required "as are a lot of journalists" tagged on

feel like Immortal Technique might have some interesting "opinions" on COVID.

but i haven't looked yet

I mean, I'd definitely be up for an "everyone is a fukken idiot, why do you think musicians would be exceptions" rant

Yeah - does the % of musicians noted ITT exceed the % of covidiots in society at large?

think the mainstream media has been good about delivering & reinforcing accurate COVID information, though.

Are there any parts of the mainstream UK media that you think have done a lesser job than others?

?

Rita Ora apologizes:
It was a spur of the moment decision made with the misguided view that we were coming out of lockdown and this would be OK.
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/nov/30/rita-ora-throws-birthday-party-london-restaurant-covid-lockdown

It was a spur of the moment meal booked in a restaurant for 30 people several days before lockdown ended, but I thought I'd get away with it more likely

feel like Immortal Technique might have some interesting "opinions" on COVID.

but i haven't looked yet

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, November 30, 2020 11:30 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

feels like a lock...been wondering about Lord Jamar and KRS-One as well

ha of course this guy

https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/08/tech-n9ne-coronavirus-concert-ozarks/

Tech bums me out, always seemed like he had a head on his shoulders but I didn't pay close enough attention.

?

mark and Dorian both see, for different implied reasons, failures of the UK's mainstream media as being a factor in lesserly-intellectual* citizens like Ian Brown and the Fairbrass Brothers reaching unscientific and conspiracy-minded conclusions about COVID. You disagree, because the mainstream media has been good about delivering these messages. I wonder if you're certain it's consistent at that level, or if there might be a weak point or two here and there, where these musicians might be getting their info.

*broad though their other talents might be

Sammy Hagar

― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, September 17, 2020 6:43 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Today's David Lee Roth cartoon, seemingly in response to Hagar's non-socially-distanced Thanksgiving dinner? I'm not entirely sure - Roth's sense of humor is pretty weird.

#SoggyBottom #DLR #DavidLeeRoth #DiamondDave pic.twitter.com/zZ4Q2ZRHgh

— David Lee Roth (@DavidLeeRoth) November 30, 2020

xp Of course I'm happy to consider contrary viewpoints/facts, though I can't respond to arguments that are merely "implied."

Hannan's "you're really not going to die from the Coronavirus" and "it's time to start loosening the lockdown" takes (the latter first fired off on April 12!) are published in The Telegraph

And are musicians known to follow this guy's editorials?

Here's the current non-editorial coverage: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/uk-coronavirus-lockdown/

Do you think "stay home folks, 12,330 new cases were recorded yesterday and we have the highest death rates in Europe, here's a scientist" messaging would be unduly alarmist, and that "go to Cornwall to drink" and "masks are dangerous" and "eating one (1) scotch egg in public protects you from the virus" and "Matt Hancock says everything's okay now, and he's a person one should absolutely trust" news stories are responsible messaging?

Hannan's "you're really not going to die from the Coronavirus" and "it's time to start loosening the lockdown"

You scared the shit out of me, I thought I was about to learn that Neil Hannon from Divine Comedy was an anti-masker

xp I clicked on the Scotch egg article, and it doesn't seem to say what you say it says, but I'm not a subscriber so can't read further.

(Also apologies if I'm not parsing your coyly interrogative rhetorical moves correctly.)

imo reasonable public health messaging would frame things as "Rishi's plans to have you eat and drink and socialise indoors are all bad and will spread the virus, as demonstrated by a) science b) this diagram of droplets, c) them doing so previously. NB Tim Martin is a sociopath and Sunak literally does not know what a pub looks like inside or out," not as "here's a quirky li'l feature of the new guidelines! (no content about virus exists in article at all)"

that david lee roth cartoon is a lot

Lee Scratch Perry

Probably the least surprising covidiot yet.

In a high risk group too, the lad wants to be careful.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-55213784

there was a Scratch Perry interview in the recording magazine Tape Op and it was really depressing to me, complete gibberish.

and not even like eccentric or in a surreal way insightful, like he's just a guy muttering on a park bench now

I will continue to have faith in you, Rita:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50GQjUZ4P3M

(it was always about this remix tho)

xp

I saw Lee Scratch Perry nearly 20 years ago and he was having the audience do call-and-response conspiracy theory chanting, this is just what he's always been like I guess, part of the package, like with Immortal Technique.

I interviewed Scratch several years back and it was a similar mishmash of coherence, gibberish, and slang (some I would guess was invented, which came across as more gibberish). That's just his vibe. He's also 84 now.

I interviewed Scratch several years back and it was a similar mishmash of coherence, gibberish, and slang

TBF, this was my experience interviewing Ornette Coleman, minus the made-up slang. Years later I talked to one of his backing musicians and he explained that Ornette would happily talk concretely about music all day long...to another musician, but when he talked to journalists he slid into "philosopher mode" and stayed there.

I put him on in concert around 15 years and had exactly the same experience - mishmash of coherence, gibberish, and slang

But, at one point in the evening I overheard him talking to his wife and he was speaking very coherently with no gibberish or slang, so who knows?

Rita Ora wins the 2020 award for least sincere apology (twice!).

Even Ornette's most obscure interviews often have some insightful gems, but I wouldn't have necessarily wanted to be the interviewer.

Wow, unperson, that makes total sense.

Wow, unperson, that makes total sense.

A couple of years before the interview, I saw him walking through midtown Manhattan and struck up a conversation at a stoplight. His first question to me was, do you play an instrument? I said no, that I had played the trumpet for a little while but had given it up to stick with writing. His reply was, "You should have stuck with it, because you can make the same mistakes either way."

Lol

I keep waiting for Billy Corgan to show up on this thread.

https://tapeop.com/interviews/136/lee-scratch-perry/

i mean...read it for yourself...it just really puts me off when there's this level of emperor's new clothes with how people talk about him - for example the end of the article which tries to make it seem like it was something more than just a disaster

I left feeling blessed to have interacted with Lee, but was also a bit mystified by what had just happened. It became obvious quite quickly that my list of thoughtful questions were no longer relevant. So much of what Lee "Scratch" Perry does is improvise. He reads the room, feels the spirit, and accepts divine intervention. I spent years studying and playing jazz and improvising; I just didn't realize that these skills would be expected of me in an interview one day. This was like stepping on stage with John Coltrane, or into the ring with Muhammad Ali. All I could think was, "Pay attention and listen."

xpost so he can tell you that you hurt him deep in his heart?

god that is a great Ornette quote

I also interviewed Scratch Perry, and it was such a disaster that the magazine I was working for didn't run it.

On the other hand, I got blisteringly high with Lee Scratch Perry, so on top of the time I smoked a blunt with George Clinton and his band (among some others in a large circle), I feel somewhat blessed.

xpost Very akin to some Miles Davis aphorisms.

On the other hand, I got blisteringly high with Lee Scratch Perry, so on top of the time I smoked a blunt with George Clinton and his band (among some others in a large circle), I feel somewhat blessed.

I feel very lucky that in almost 25 years of doing this I've never been confronted with the option to get high with an artist. I don't drink or do drugs, so my big fear has always been that turning it down would sour an otherwise productive interaction.

I once interviewed Johnny Depp in a room with a few other journalists. He hand-rolled a (tobacco) cigarette and offered it up, but only one person was a smoker and iirc didn't want to get in trouble for flouting no-smoking rules like only famous people can do.

A striking number of Nick Cave fans would appear to be Covidiots - https://www.facebook.com/nickcaveandthebadseeds/photos/a.10150398421173034/10157762400883034/?type=3

I only read a few screens from 1000+ responses but I was pleasantly surprised how few there were.

ok. i must have had the bad luck of hitting the seam full of russian nick cave fans with their plandemic theories telling everyone we are being enslaved by our govts.

this was a good one - , it is a pretext or rather an excuse to limit our freedom. The point is to help our immune system by cuttiing down on carbohydrates , introducing fasting and herbs to our daily diet. In my working environment there have been 15 cases of corona and believe me I did not contact the virus thanks to my healthy lifestyle. Why don't our governments focus on this aspect instead?

Unperson, that seems like a reasonable concern, particularly given the proclivities of a lot of jazz musicians.

In the case of Scratch Perry, it was sort of difficult to not be high, because the show was in San Francisco, and the entire venue was like one big hotbox from the time I walked in until the time I left.

The dude from Trapt seems to be all kinds of idiot (with a covid component): https://www.altpress.com/news/trapt-twitter-account-suspended/

Yeah, iirc, Trapt actually played an unmasked show this year. Granted it was to an audience of 15, apparently, but still.

I think the covidiocy pales in comparison to the defending of rape and the proud boys shit

only 15 people went to the concert but every one of them started an ICU bed shortage

Oh absolutely, there are no shortage of reasons to hate Trapt. They really went all in on the hate this year.

Some people now thinking Dan Snaith is a covidiot judging from the replies

I feel so sorry for Margaret Keenan - the 91 year old woman who got the vaccine today. Completely unaware she's just been sterilised by Bill Gates.

— Caribou (@caribouband) December 8, 2020

Some people now thinking Dan Snaith is a covidiot judging from the replies

🐦[I feel so sorry for Margaret Keenan - the 91 year old woman who got the vaccine today. Completely unaware she’s just been sterilised by Bill Gates.
— Caribou (@caribouband) December 8, 2020🕸]🐦

Yeah, that dry humor does not work at all in the age of rabid online idiots.

how do you not get that's a joke

*I* get that it's a joke. But I can also see how someone who doesn't really know Snaith well at all could see that tweet and think it was straight-faced while scrolling through dozens of other batshit, MAGA driven conspiracy theories that litter that hellscape.

Some rabid online idiot, you said it.

oh sorry I meant "how does one not get," not you, obv.

No worries, I just meant to say that I think this dry humor rarely scans as intended on Twitter in 2020.

Good job I'm not on Twitter I think.

Oh yes, definitely a good job. No matter how much time I spend curating my list of follows, this stuff gets amplified by every corner and feels inescapable.

Trey Songz seems to have said reasonable things in the past, but apparently made a bad decision recently.

touchin', coughin', fuckin', can't make up my mind

Pete Rock.

Vaccine shit is real stupid. How you giving vaccine to people who arent sick??? 💉🚫

— PETEROCK.COM (@PeteRock) December 10, 2020

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo goddamn

He doesn't know the difference between a vaccine and a medicine?

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mobile/000/002/395/magnets_c.jpg

lol

Varg Vikernes

SHOCKAH

Never mind, he's 'only' an anti-vaxxer.

please don't sully the good name of varg

It's cool, I said Varg Vikernes, not Louis Cachet.

Lol good name of Varg. Top ten assholes in music list, if not top five or three

hmm now I'm wondering

GG
Varg
The Nuge

??

Graeme Garden?

John Phillips

Didn’t realize the Clapton/Van M. track had such hot lyrics:

”Do you wanna be a free man/ Or do you wanna be a slave?/ Do you wanna wear these chains/ Until you’re lying in the grave?” Clapton sings.

Other lyrics include: “Magna Carta, Bill of Rights/ The constitution, what’s it worth?/ You know they’re gonna grind us down, ah/ Until it really hurts/ Is this a sovereign nation/ Or just a police state?/ You better look out, people/ Before it gets too late.”

The song ends with Clapton singing, “Dick Turpin wore a mask too,” referring to the 18th century highwayman who wore a mask to conceal his identity while committing crimes.

Counterpoint: Spiderman wears a mask, too

Dick Turpin didn't cover his breathing holes, and did one accidental killing and one on purpose. Spider-Man is fully masked, and has only ever accidentally killed: his girlfriend (snapping her neck because as a genius-level scientist, he forgot that physics exist); and his wife (cancered up by filling her with radioactive jizz).

Oh god - let’s not do the whole Gwen Stacy retcon forensics deep dive again so soon!! ;)

I honestly don't remember doing it before! But okay:

If Clapton had been wearing a mask, he might not have had enough puff to throw his son out that window.

Connor Clapton can rest assured that he'll never have to worry about seeing his dad in Heaven

Suprised Sir Van managed to avoid mentioning the Battle of the Boyne in there.

(xp) Tiers In Heaven

Dick Turpin didn't cover his breathing holes

I don't think any of the common images of Turpin in action are in any way based in reality, but I guess it would have to be Ballsmandible Turpin.

Iggy not a covidiot...

Good morning! A little surprise track from #IggyPop this morning. #newmusicmondayhttps://t.co/zzd9QNXhL8

— Iggy Pop (@IggyPop) December 21, 2020

hmm now I'm wondering

GG
Varg
The Nuge

??

― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 6:21 PM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I mean...Nuge is a dickhead but

Nuge is a child molester (but so's Iggy... and apparently everyone who stayed in Los Angeles from 1970-1974 except for Keith Richards somehow)

SAVAGE

did Clapton come up with the title lmao https://t.co/pO2c2e5J5a

— Matthew Elliot (@matttbastard) December 22, 2020

Earlier this year, Morrison referred to preventive measures as pseudoscience, and "Stand and Deliver" marks his fourth anti-lockdown track after "Born to Be Free", "As I Walked Out," and "No More Lockdown." This latest, though, is the first to infect another Rock and Roll Hall of Famer.

Van Morrison, whose hits date all the way back to 1964 with the band Them, has written controversial lyrics in the past. His 2005 tune "They Sold Me Out" is one of a series of anti-music industry songs in in repertoire, but repeated references to "shekels" raised some eyebrows at the time. Clapton, during his years of a well-documented drug addiction, went on a notorious racist rant while onstage in 1976, for which he has since apologized.https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/12/eric-clapton-and-van-morrison-release-their-anti-mask-anthem"> https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2020/12/eric-clapton-and-van-morrison-release-their-anti-mask-anthem

Clapton's apology was terrible IIRC, like "I had so many black friends [what was I doing]!!"

Whoever this guy is: https://variety.com/2020/music/news/rapper-lil-pump-anti-mask-banned-jetblue-airline-tantrum-1234876095/

Can’t get COVID if you’re barred out.

https://variety.com/2021/music/news/berlin-terri-nunn-apologizes-mar-a-lago-new-years-eve-1234878605/

...Terri Nunn of the group Berlin has issued an apology for the controversial gig, saying she didn’t know it would be perceived as taking a political stand, and expressing shock at the lack of COVID protocols at the resort.

“I am truly sorry I performed at Mar-a-Lago and would not have done so if I’d known what I learned while I was there,” Nunn wrote.... “My goal in performing was not to support a political party. I see now that that’s not the way it appeared and I am apologetic for that as well.”

Taylor Dayne was there, too(!)

Dayne, for her part, had tweeted and then deleted her own statement earlier. Screenshots show that Dayne wrote, “I’m saddened by all this. I have a 30-year career that (includes) many diverse friendships. And I try to stay non political and non judgmental and not preach. I sing from my heart purely and from Source (sic). I wish for all to be who they need to be… and find their way.”

either incredibly naive or (more likely) completely disingenuous

that vaguely passive aggressive, new agey tone that Taylor Dayne has adopted (she's far from the only one) there is one of the most infuriating things to me

That Nunn apology reads more sincere, but what size rock would you need to be living under to get hired for a gig at Mar-A-Lago in 2020/1 and not consider the potential political implication before you got there?

is there footage of the maskless Mar-a-Lago crowd roaring along ironically wirh “Take My Breath Away”?

That Nunn apology reads more sincere, but what size rock would you need to be living under to get hired for a gig at Mar-A-Lago in 2020/1 and not consider the potential political implication before you got there?

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, January 4, 2021 11:31 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

honestly they should just say "i needed the money" which is probably the case

A vivid, stunning look into the underground party scene that rages on as LA experiences its darkest moments of the pandemic. Read the whole piece from @cerisecastle but these passages, I’m agape...https://t.co/Wv9JdnTOcl pic.twitter.com/Fepb7r71p9

— Josie Huang (@josie_huang) January 6, 2021

Discussing the Future of Malawi with His Excellency—President Chakwera! 🇲🇼. @RaisingMalawi pic.twitter.com/DOKWgigrsn

— Madonna (@Madonna) January 2, 2021

Bruce Willis asked to leave pharmacy for refusing to wear a mask https://t.co/V4kcyxUwy3 pic.twitter.com/SORhCJwfEU

— New York Post (@nypost) January 12, 2021

The Rejection Of Bruno

xp Oh shit Malawi covid numbers actually spiking since just after that...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/clm1wxp5pert/malawi
Malawi's President Lazarus Chakwera has taken personal blame for being among those responsible for the recent rise in Covid-19 cases in the country.

There's been a "collective sense of relaxation in adherence to Covid prevention measures among many Malawians including myself," Mr Chakwera said in a radio address on Sunday.

The president was heavily criticised last week when images and videos circulated showing him and visiting pop musician, Madonna, shaking hands and posing for pictures without wearing masks or observing social distance.

covid makes the people come together
covid makes the bourgeoisie and the rebel

#thegreatequalizer

can someone plz read this and summarize? couldn't get past the first sentence i'm afraid

pic.twitter.com/BNybmHdALD

— Ian Brown (@ianbrown) January 15, 2021

oh sorry, it's the same bollocks he posted before - IGNORE

FACT

I got as far as "my scepticism with the medical mafia began when my sister was diagnosed with cancer and given just 12 months to live. me and my mam scoured the internet for a cure but she died anyway."

was reading article in the guardian on marianne faithfull's new album and her near death from covid and remembered reading years ago that she and van morrison lived in the same village and used to sit in each others kitchens drinking whiskey. was wondering if they still spoke and if she'd be upbraiding him right now

Is it any wonder why the UK is suffering one of worst in the world with #COVID19?

English band ‘Right Said Fred’ brag about refusing to wear a mask at Heathrow, claims staff applauded move & for “speaking out on Covid”

BOTH Heathrow + BA reply, saying it’s ‘great to hear’?!?! pic.twitter.com/YmWLQO3wN0

— Alex Macheras (@AlexInAir) February 4, 2021

Too sexy for my mask

deeply derpy when we don't wear a mask

the Heathrow tweet turns out to be specifically referencing their third single, that stalled out at #29 after the first three hit #2, #3 and #1.

also credit where

I reckon they'll be having a jam with Captain Tom soon if you know what I mean.

uncharacteristic factual slipup from El Sic there!

I put it to the court that context clearly indicates a slip of the digital tongue rather than an error of fact, but will make no other pleading

Evan Parker :-(

https://laplateforme-sonsdhiver.org/crea-parker/?fbclid=IwAR2lODKHhLzmwAwaVdqNca6OEZg0REJ779B1I3syVcudOOjIUR8y7JUnS7Y

what a disappointingly daft old conspiracy-theory-brain-wormed fucker.

Oh no! Shame Derek Bailey's no longer with us so he could have taken the opposing viewpoint just on principle.

Covidiot and aids denialist, very nice

I was just the other day blasting out the opening track on the latest Alexander Hawkins and thinking this old bastard can still play with some fire, it's a shame really but I'm not often surprised that most musicians are complete arsewipes these days.

Someone needs to poll these. Or maybe not.

1. « Follow the money. »
2. « The CDC hadn’t had a decent plague since polio. »
3. « Cell biology is a bunch of magic. »
4. « The number of cases went up epidemically, you know, exponentially, because the number of tests went up exponentially. »
5. « Lives have been totally ruined by this thing. »
6. « We don’t really know what it’s going to do. The immune system is incredibly complicated and immunologists’ brains are not complicated enough to deal with it. »
7. « There are no Old Wise Men up there at the top of Science. »
8. « The Science is being judged by people, the funding is being done by people who don’t understand it – and who does? Fauci?! Fauci doesn’t know enough. If Fauci wants to get on television with somebody who knows a little bit about this stuff and debate why, he could do it, because he has been asked. »
9. « It might not be such a bad thing to have sex. »

10. « It might not be such a bad thing to have tenor sax. »

Anyway, fuck it, I've seen the guy play dozens of times, I don't need to see him ever again. So that's fine.

Why would you not want to see him again just because he's come out with this crap? Seems like a weird position to take.

Not going to give this dick any of my hard earned money.

... any more, that is.

Why would you not want to see him again just because he's come out with this crap? Seems like a weird position to take.

If I was a big fan of his it might be considered a weird position to take? I suppose? But I'm not. He's someone I'd go and see sometimes when my main jazz buff friend suggested it, if he was playing with someone interesting usually, and he used to play all the time - pre-plandemic.

I have no problem with supporting artists whose work I admire but who then come out with nonsense like this. Doesn't bother me in the least tbh.

I suppose I don't admire him enough then.

Given that the guy's 76 now I wonder if he accepted the offer of vaccination? On the quiet, like.

The COVID/AIDS link up is the most reprehensible aspect.

Anyway, the piece is called "Rockets for Kary Mullis", which is appropriate because, having just read up on Kary Mullis, he would appear to have been, what they would call in Glasgow, a total fuckin' rocket.

Well, that’s disappointing.

As someone in Glasgow, I can confirm everyone here woulkd say that Kary Mullis was 100% a total fuckin' rocket.

Evan Parker can go fuck himself. i think not going to see a Covid denier perform is the only reasonable position to take. As he is also an AIDS denier I might consider actively picketing any gig he played in my town.

I'm fine with continuing to enjoy music by ppl I dislike but going to see them live implies giving them money and that's a red line, nothing strange about what Tom said at all.

Penny Rimbaud of Crass

Covid-19 is the result of genetic tampering, as are the so-called vaccines being employed to counter it. Beneath all this, there is the underlying stench of eugenics. Watch out for Big Pharma brainwash. We are as we are as nature that so we be. pic.twitter.com/etsgr6jZaj

— penny rimbaud (@pennyrimbaud1) February 16, 2021

Another non-surprise. A guy I know really well from an 80s anarcho band seems to have gone the same way, it's the pivot point where anti-authoritarianism meets excessive weed abuse.

Penny Rimbaud! :(

Gratuitous name drop : I am working on a project and he has been extremely helpful in making sure it comes together. I think i will have to challenge him in our next email conversation.

And suggested in the responses to that Penny Rimbaud tweet, Jaz Coleman which I guess wouldn't be surprising given he's (amongst other things) a 9/11 Truther - as (he claims) persuaded by genius of Michael Meacher - ironic, given his 2020 project with Ondrej Smeykal was held up while Smeykal recovered from COVID.

Then again, "it's the pivot point where anti-authoritarianism meets excessive weed abuse."

Yes, I can't say I'm surprised about Penny Rimbaud. I saw him play at one of the worst gigs I've ever been to in my life so it's unlikely I'd have had to boycott any of his future engagements.

I'm dissapointed nick hasn't made some ten a penny pun yet!

"so-called vaccines"

Yes, they are indeed so-called.

You see, taking Big Pharma to task for its inhumane profiteering is simply impossible if you don’t also reject the validity of medical research and incriminate the gays in the process, that’s just how it is. It wouldn’t be logically consistent otherwise!

Despairing snark aside, I have never seen anyone use the phrase ‘follow the money’ who didn’t turn out to be a massive antisemite. I’m not saying it’s systematically the case, but it happens a bit too often for comfort.

entirely useless trivia what i learned today: 'He appeared on the b-side to Vic Reeves and The Wonderstuff's UK 1991 number one hit "Dizzy", performing saxophone on "Oh, Mr Songwriter" (based around "Vic Reeves Big Night Out" TV show end theme song).[13] At one point during a sax solo, Vic can be heard shouting "Pack it in, Parker!".'

do they owe us a vaccine?
of course they fucking don't

My favourite piece of Rimbaud trivia is still the one where he appears on Ready Steady Go! and meets the Beatles.

💫 pic.twitter.com/sJy9BRYfzH

— Big Boi (@BigBoi) February 20, 2021

Big Boi?

aw c'mon maaaaaan

so fresh, so dumb

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvLvELvWQAclwHd?format=jpg&name=medium

Talk out self-clowners, every time this chump opens his mouth...

He is now basically the straight man for an entire nation of internet comedians. He sets 'em up, they knock it out the park.

xxp Wouldn't Ian Brown have to learn to sing first?

ffs big boi

as somebody who's always known he's shit this is mildly enjoyable

Richard Ashcroft getting in on the act.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nlONI6Rbck

Why am I not surprised.

Thankfully Nick McCabe dodged those brainworms.

apparent non-covidiot:

Bobby Shmurda stayin’ masked up and substance freepic.twitter.com/rpE5Os8sim

— XXL Magazine (@XXL) February 26, 2021

it just pisses me off as most of these assholes are just aggrieved that there was a massive interruption to their daily lives (nevermind the millions dead globally), and then you're given options to re-open like getting vaccinated or just wearing a mask and they balk "NO!, if I have to make any concessions I'm not doing it!"

I would pay people not to attend his shows. in fact, if he books a show and you decide not to go, let me know and I will reimburse you.

xxxpost

Nothing surprises me about dickie. Thankfully the rest of the band are not like him at all.

the song though is a john lennon cover presumably for a tribute album

if I had to travel on public transport every day to work in some covid unsafe environment for poverty wages while people are dropping like flies. I'd be telling this addled fuckwit where he can stick his freedom.

These People

I dunno, he seems pretty serious about it here:

COVID-19: Allocation and withdrawal of ventilation - the urgent need for a national policy https://t.co/VviAwZLZ6Q

— Richard Ashcroft (@ashcroftethics) April 3, 2020

CD1
Latest Record Project
Where Have All the Rebels Gone?
Psychoanalysts' Ball
No Good Deed Goes Unpunished
Tried to Do the Right Thing
The Long Con
Thank God for the Blues
Big Lie
A Few Bars Early
It Hurts Me Too
Only a Song
Diabolic Pressure
Deadbeat
Saturday Night
Blue Funk

CD 2
Double Agent Double Bind
Love Should Come With A Warning
Breaking The Spell Up
County Down
Duper's Delight
My Time
After a While
He's Not the Kingpin
Mistaken Identity
Stop Bitching, Do Something
Western Man
They Own the Media
Why Are You on Facebook?
Jealousy

Half conspiracy half site new answers.

He's Not the Kingpin

Morrison just listing off different Daredevil villains.

looking forward to finding out who owns the media

WHO owns the media

Sully Erna from Godsmack seems...confused about some things.

During a new appearance on "The Mistress Carrie Podcast", GODSMACK frontman Sully Erna said that the coronavirus is not as deadly as health officials have made it out to be. "I'm sorry, man, and there may be some people that may get mad at me about saying this, but COVID is not a global killer," he said (as transcribed by BLABBERMOUTH.NET). "It's doing damage, and it's certainly affecting the elderly, and we pray for them, and we are really sympathetic towards that, and that's why we're all wearing masks, that's why we're all doing our job. Because there's a lot of us that aren't afraid of COVID, and we know that we're probably gonna blow right through it. But we don't wanna roll the dice with our loved ones, so we're being responsible. But at the same time, the reality is this isn't a global killer. It's gonna pass, we're gonna get past it, and we need to get back to normal. So we have to influence the strong to get out there and start working and start going to school and doing what they need to do so we can create population immunity. That's what's gonna get us through this. And then we'll be able to get back to normal."

Erna also repeated a narrative pushed by conservative media and disputed by health experts that suggested the official death count of 516,000 from the coronavirus in the U.S. was inflated.

"There's been a lot of things proven within the media, the news, to who's on what side of what, and whether some of this was a political agenda to begin within, whether the numbers are accurate enough to be able to base it on, those half a million people dead," Erna said. "Because there was a lot of people coming forward, a lot of doctors and everything, saying, 'Why the fuck are we being asked to put COVID on everything? Why did someone just die of pneumonia, and we have to write 'COVID'? Why did someone come in and have a heart attack, and we're being told to write 'COVID'?' So whether that half-a-million number is correct, that's the part that I feel like we need to be responsible enough to try and be optimistic about not steering people down one rabbit hole, because that's what CNN does on one side and Fox does on the other side. So CNN delivers one side of this, and Fox takes you down a different rabbit hole."

He continued: "The thing with COVID is I myself know at least — at least — a dozen, two dozen people, maybe, that have gotten COVID. And I have a friend of mine that, three months later, he's, like, 'I'm still having some issues. And it's weird — I'm getting dizzy spells. I'm getting this, that and the other thing. And what the fuck?' And then I know another group of people that were, like, 'Dude, I've had a hangover that was worse than this. I had a fever of 99 for about a day and a half and haven't had a problem since.' And so it affects everybody differently, and that's the big mystery."

Why the fuck are we being asked to put COVID on everything? Why did someone just die of pneumonia, and we have to write 'COVID'? Why did someone come in and have a heart attack, and we're being told to write 'COVID'?'

In retrospect, 'there is no such thing as a stupid question' is among the biggest lies I was told as a kid.

in general, I get bored with "noted dumbass spouts some dumbassery" pretty quickly but Sully always seems to be the exception to that rule; I will never tire of laughing at his stupid ass

This isn't complicated: COVID both is and is not a big deal, is and is not a killer, is and is not affecting the entire world, we should both wear masks and scoff at the need for masks. I don't know why you're confused about my position here. COVID is just like...everything, man, knowhuti'msayin'? (takes 45-second bong rip while wearing 'CRIMINALIZE THE POT' t-shirt)

maybe they called themselves Godsmack because every time Sully gives an interview, God manifests and slaps the shit of him while yelling "STOP MAKING ME LOOK BAD"

Tbf that ship has sailed.

A Clinic song popped up on shuffle the other day and now I really want one of them to show up here as an anti-masker

Ian Brown steps down from festival over vaccine

What a fucking tool.

Good news for music fans. Mind you, look at the rest of the line-up.

I imagine some of the potheads i used to listen to the Stones Roses with back in the 90s probably have similar ideas about microchips and control magnets or whatever but they dont get covered in the press fortunately

!?

Congratulations @MrAndyNgo

Finally had the time to read your important book

You’re a brave man pic.twitter.com/2CwX5KINOw

— Winston Marshall (@MrWinMarshall) March 6, 2021

didn't these wankers hang out with jordan peterson at some point, when he was functional

yeah that's him.