Most ridiculous post about 'NTS Sessions 1-4' album on the Autechre thread

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the new stuff portrays a city, a people, a species of aliens, for whom this type of thing makes sense. 5
I put these on at bedtime yesterday and woke up in a sweat thinking something horrible was happening to the pipes or so 4
I'm thinking of moving my Autechre CDs from the "Electronic • Dance" section of my collection to the "Ou 4
listening to this this morning sounds like listening to a living creature, crawling around, developing broader consciou 3
I've always thought of Ae as the aural equivalent of a Magic Eye poster. I guess that's never been more true 3
Sometimes it resembles the motion of weather / atmospheric phenomena, fluid shapes, complex machinery, or a malfunction 2
There's a sense in which these releases are software upgrades that make previous iterations redundant. 2
Through 3 of these sessions and I feel I could reduce the 6 hours to about 1.5 for a personal "mini album". 2
i love it when ae sound like a puzzle that you think you might *just* be able to figure out if you spend enough time in 2
Are there any albums that have a better ratio of quality to duration than these NTS sessions? 2
It would be interesting to have a neural network try to create autechre songs 1
It's wild. It's a spectacle. 1
is part of Autechre's present M.O. to just obliterate traditional means of listening and enjoying music? 1
I feel like they do a LOT of work to set up amazing spaces and foundations and parameters and turn their algorithms loo 0
trying to work but all my hair is standing on end 0
"all end" is fucking killing me, it's like a sea of emotion 0


we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 April 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link

none more ridiculous than setting up this poll

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 27 April 2018 15:39 (five years ago) link

good poll

had (crüt), Friday, 27 April 2018 15:40 (five years ago) link

hey Whiney - shut up

frogbs, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:45 (five years ago) link

Can't wait until your etiquette book comes out, Whiney. I keep forgetting the six things it's okay to like and the four ways it's okay to express that enjoyment.

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 April 2018 15:50 (five years ago) link

how long until the 'most ridiculous whiney poll' poll

ufo, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:51 (five years ago) link

one of these is a quote from whiney!

laugh a little

brimstead, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:53 (five years ago) link

the overthinking on autechre is really something special

brimstead, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

Lol @ people using words to express their sense of wonder when listening to music, amirite?

pomenitul, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

all this stuff is otm though

frogbs, Friday, 27 April 2018 15:55 (five years ago) link

(I roll my eyes but my 'Whiney being Whiney' jabs are in good humor.)

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 April 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

Sometimes it resembles the motion of weather / atmospheric phenomena, fluid shapes, complex machinery, or a malfunction

p fair non embarrassing capsule description of autechre i think

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 15:56 (five years ago) link

Maybe I should check back in with Autechre (as I am currently listening to Conet Project tracks in a momentary fit of boredom toward most of the actual music on my person).

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:01 (five years ago) link

haha ✔

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link

nah the Magic Eye one is the best. truest shit ever wrote

frogbs, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:03 (five years ago) link

btw where are ppl hearing this is OT streaming or do I shell out score and five like for elseq

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

shell out

we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:04 (five years ago) link

OK. link to relevant store?

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:07 (five years ago) link

ty

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:11 (five years ago) link

Okay, lol @ 'bleepstores'

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

judderingticksandhisses.org

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:12 (five years ago) link

It's supposedly streaming on their store but not working for me.

xp

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:14 (five years ago) link

Next question. Is this OK in mp3 quality n.b. I like The Fall

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:19 (five years ago) link

Everything's ok in mp3 quality

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:20 (five years ago) link

cool ty I agree

imago, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

Right now I am listening to The Fall on a mangled cassette but I would go for the 24bit. Realistically 320mp3 is good tho.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:21 (five years ago) link

Everything but splash cymbals are a-ok on mp3, imo.

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:31 (five years ago) link

ban splash cymbals imo

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:32 (five years ago) link

2nded

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

hi-hat and ride only

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 27 April 2018 16:35 (five years ago) link

maybe I should check back in with Autechre

you should! these NTS sets are what everyone's raving about right now. the 4th (and final) set is streaming now, at least for the next 512,580 seconds.

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 April 2018 16:36 (five years ago) link

I wrote three of those yessssssss. I'll go to the mat all day, every day for my favourite artist and I'm proud to sound ridiculous when words fail.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Friday, 27 April 2018 21:27 (five years ago) link

You know you're too jaded when enthusiasm sounds ridiculous. I say, fly that enthusiasm flag high! When a really awesome group known for putting out these alien, enigmatic soundscapes puts out a great collection that 99.999% of the world, and perhaps some certain percentage of fans as well, will never know even exists, shout it to the rooftops.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 27 April 2018 21:45 (five years ago) link

Okay, lol @ 'bleepstores'

Bleep opened three years before Spotify and less than a year after iTunes

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Friday, 27 April 2018 22:04 (five years ago) link

50 for 8 discs is pretty good, i might buy this

brimstead, Friday, 27 April 2018 22:08 (five years ago) link

i like a lot of descriptions on that thread and will absolutely cop to being a bit rate snob AND i wholeheartedly support this poll. i'm voting for software upgrades just because they're really unpleasant and this is pleasant music.

you bet, nancy (map), Friday, 27 April 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

isn't a lot of autechre's music really physical? seems like you'd want lossless for the headroom etc... FEEL THE BASS

brimstead, Friday, 27 April 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link

if you don't hear this ________________
or this __^__^__^__^
you will not feel it

brimstead, Friday, 27 April 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

The pipes one was a funny anecdote so it got my vote
But yeah I’m finding it increasingly difficult to understand what lens Whiney sees the world through. Maybe the ilm regulars have a better handle on it than me, idk

You're all losing so many points on your progress bars (Champiness), Friday, 27 April 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link

whiney otm

the late great, Friday, 27 April 2018 22:24 (five years ago) link

first one is obviously best

the late great, Friday, 27 April 2018 22:28 (five years ago) link

software upgrades just because they're really unpleasant

Things getting better = unpleasant? OK.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Friday, 27 April 2018 23:28 (five years ago) link

Can "this is pleasant music" be added to the poll? Autechre is always my first port of call when I want some pleasant music.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Friday, 27 April 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

show me someone who believes software upgrades are "things getting better" in 2018 and i'll show you a fool. p.s. don't be a bitch

you bet, nancy (map), Friday, 27 April 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link

Upgrade by definition means things getting better. If it isn't better it's not an upgrade.

If you want to wilfully misconstrue that I think it's only fair to return the favour and mention that "this is pleasant music" is more nauseating than anything in the poll.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 00:06 (five years ago) link

There's no band I wish I liked more than Autechre. On paper, they seem like exactly what I want in a band, but everything I've listened to has been impenetrable. Might try again with this new release

Vinnie, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:38 (five years ago) link

autechre counts as a band? now i’ve seen it all!

the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:41 (five years ago) link

though i agree strongly w the reading that confield was a post rock album

the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:42 (five years ago) link

lentic catachresis is a post-rock jam for sure

imago, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:43 (five years ago) link

Band, group, team, faction, whatever. Is it too late to add my comment to the poll options?

Vinnie, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:52 (five years ago) link

xp as others have noted it even ends in a digital feedback squeal

the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link

autechre is NOT a band

good day, sir!

the late great, Saturday, 28 April 2018 01:58 (five years ago) link

Relax, it's not the end of Autechre. They're hitting peak form, touring, releasing more and more music. People asked the same thing when L-Event finished with "Newbound".

startled macropod (MatthewK), Saturday, 28 April 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

I love you, Whiney. Never change.

octobeard, Saturday, 28 April 2018 06:57 (five years ago) link

Upgrade by definition means things getting better. If it isn't better it's not an upgrade.

looks like my 20-year experience of Windows is an outlier then

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2018 10:21 (five years ago) link

If anyone else is struggling with the meaning of the word upgrade I can suggest a dictionary or y'know, context ;-)

You're even free to look it up on your Encarta CD-ROM.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 10:30 (five years ago) link

love it when ilxors wilfully misunderstand each other

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Saturday, 28 April 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

it's a wilfully, pugnaciously bad take. if you're saying that software developers don't routinely release things called upgrades that sometimes make the user experience actively worse then i don't know how to argue. if you're saying that an upgrade that doesn't improve the user experience isn't an upgrade then that just semantic nonsense.

i mean it's also entirely irrelevant but fuck it, it's a quiet Saturday.

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 28 April 2018 11:25 (five years ago) link

It's fine if you associate a word with some poor usage but a) that's not what it means and b) it's clear as fuck not what was intended in the original sentence - "software upgrades that make previous iterations redundant."

Also, many software upgrades are actually good.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 11:45 (five years ago) link

Words gain their meaning from usage, and if dictionaries don't show this yet, then that's because they're slow to update.

Frederik B, Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:10 (five years ago) link

So "upgrade" is primarily euphemistic now? Even when qualified as obviously positive?

Funny tho, I genuinely associate software upgrades with cool new stuff that pisses on earlier versions.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:13 (five years ago) link

Euphemistic / ironic.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:15 (five years ago) link

As a software developer, I can attest that "upgrade" doesn't always mean "better."

Also lol at this thread.

Twyla Thwoorp (Leee), Monday, 30 April 2018 22:48 (five years ago) link

I don't understand why we have to police fans for being enthusiastic and hyperbolic

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

enthusiasm is rockist

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

As someone who has never listened to Autechre, for no particular reasons, these descriptions have convinced me to give them a serious shot.

Van Horn Street, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:13 (five years ago) link

The answer is Whiney perpetually feels he has to be ~ahead of the game~, beat the backlash before it beats him. He'll still put NTS1-4 in his EOTY top 10, just you wait. He'll rave about it yet only in writing he's actually paid for. On here he'll scorn and police people *liking music*. He can't do it without an ~ironic fight~ on a message board. Not realising that tiresome gig is up since, what, 1998?

You could be that person too, Moodles. Alternatively, you might not want to bother with that tiresome meta-post-shizzle stick dragged out into ancient history, making a caricature out of yourself. In which case you are way, way better off. Choose wisely!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

I could? Gosh.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:17 (five years ago) link

Weary Whiney stick is weary, is all.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:18 (five years ago) link

I love that Whiney makes fun of ILM! On the other hand, all of those poll choices are my kind of posts, are what I come to ILM for

Dan S, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:26 (five years ago) link

Lol u all mad

brimstead, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

As a software developer, I can attest that "upgrade" doesn't always mean "better."


It's called a dictionary

brimstead, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:36 (five years ago) link

The defensive nonsense on this thread is actually a significant portion of why I need never try to appreciate autechre again after various failed experiments

Props to those who own up to it; everybody else, lol your gods are mortal and lame

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:39 (five years ago) link

(I like very old autechre; LP5 and later just doesn’t do anything for me, sorry)

El Tomboto, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:40 (five years ago) link

I think the dividing line is just after LP5 tbh (although I love every iteration of Autechre!)

Dan S, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:43 (five years ago) link

I'm ok with saying Autechre is lame or whatever, I just don't see the point of taking people to task for enjoying them the wrong way

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link

(I like very old autechre; LP5 and later just doesn’t do anything for me, sorry)

― El Tomboto


it's ok. you don't need to apologize ... (defensive nonsense?)

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Monday, 30 April 2018 23:47 (five years ago) link

whiney is of course bitchy as hell but this poll is good

despite not having read the thread, i feel confident i voted for lj <3

mookieproof, Monday, 30 April 2018 23:51 (five years ago) link

seriously torn between software upgrade and magic eye poster

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 01:48 (five years ago) link

I'm thinking of moving my Autechre CDs from the "Electronic • Dance" section of my collection to the "Ou

thouse"

the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:05 (five years ago) link

outsider music? outlaw country? outré? I haven't heard this new 8-hour-long Autechre album, but I bet it's the perfect soundtrack for the task of arranging and rearranging your CD collection into increasingly byzantine micro-genres :p

the yolk sustains us, we eat whites for days (unregistered), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:09 (five years ago) link

lol

the late great, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 02:13 (five years ago) link

software update is the funniest, but the magic eye post has the poetry of an ilx classic like the core, the heart music.

flappy bird, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 03:52 (five years ago) link

Good grief, it's not at all about defending 'fandom' or a daft post. Just a mild reposte in the ironic petty spirit of the thread. Got a bit out of hand but I didn't reach for words like bitch and fool. Apologies map anyway.

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:21 (five years ago) link

*riposte

Gonk Steady Crew (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:23 (five years ago) link

it's 8 hours so it covers quite a bit of ground and is hard to broadly characterize, but large swaths of the NTS sessions are the most approachable and conventionally melodic and beautiful they've sounded since the 90s.

these would all be on my autechre greatest hits:

donk steady one (22:25)
e0 (10:25)
cluster casual (11:03)
g1 e 1 (6:59)
column thirteen (17:02)
all end (58:21)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 05:55 (five years ago) link

*gonk
Also "north spiral" rules

startled macropod (MatthewK), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 06:11 (five years ago) link

i think i just have new donk city on the brain

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 May 2018 06:17 (five years ago) link

it sounds like a bunch of skronking grinding noises

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 07:14 (five years ago) link

pretty good though

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Tuesday, 1 May 2018 07:15 (five years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

never stop calling it donk city karl

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 00:55 (five years ago) link

Forget it, Karl. It's Donk City.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

ok went with magic eye

flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

who said that anyway, it's great

flappy bird, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:10 (five years ago) link

ugh I hate the idea that there is anything to "get" with Autechre. It's just incredibly great sounding music / sound. I guess you need to listen to a lot to work up a shared aesthetic, but I get the same direct connection from, I dunno, "6IE.CR" that I get from "I Know You Got Soul". No abstract thought required. And I am 99.999% sure that they are motivated the same way, the most cerebral they get is making algorithms to generate / control / sequence the sound, same way a guitarist might study with a new teacher to expand their vocab, but the aesthetic decision making is based on "does this sound fucking cool / moving / menacing" and not "does this advance our art according to manifesto X".
Their DJ sets from the streaming broadcasts around Quaristice / Oversteps / Exai are great listening, just a lot of great Detroit, oldschool, boom-bap and atmospheric work. Sure, some heady and obscure things, but clearly assembled with love and a disregard for cool-factor or w/e.
They get bored with the old shit, they make new shit, it becomes more extreme over time, they acquire more skills at getting what they want and the formats allow more flexibility. I'm glad to be alive while they're doing it.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 01:25 (five years ago) link

I listen to Autechre lots of different ways. As ambient music (in every sense), as intellectualized generative music (however composed or not), as textured electronic music, as tactile or more conventional beat-driven music, as really precise bricolage, as abstract experimental music. And so on. Subtle distinctions, sometimes, and sometimes what I perceive is just a matter of my mood. Other times it's just a matter of sitting in a different chair.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:53 (five years ago) link

nts 1 is straight fire

you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 02:59 (five years ago) link

I agree with MatthewK's last post. the only thing that i think might be difficult for people is the length? outside of idk classical and jazz there aren't a lot of formats that are asking people to let something drift for 20 minutes.

you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link

There are six (6) Autechre threads on the main page right now!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:19 (five years ago) link

(And I’m not counting whatever’s happening in the “various boom bap” threads)

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:20 (five years ago) link

you're welcome

you bet, nancy (map), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:22 (five years ago) link

dare I say it's because they've unloaded one of the most jaw dropping artistic achievements of the decade, just now?

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 03:39 (five years ago) link

You’re supposed to say something like, “Another thread starts in 144,632 seconds!”

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 04:12 (five years ago) link

Dunno autechre are about as esoteric as it gets, there’s plenty to get we’ve just drank the kool aid. I know people who despise their music

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 04:33 (five years ago) link

Yeah but it's not like people who dislike it, have failed to put in the work to "get" it. First track of theirs I heard, I thought oh boy I like that, and it's been that way for 20-odd years since. Some of their stuff I don't like - e.g. a lot of Oversteps, Tri Repetae - but I don't expect to do more study to get what I was missing.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 04:57 (five years ago) link

Fair

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 05:08 (five years ago) link

I love Oversteps, Tri Repetae++!! Those are really two of the highlights of their entire catalog for me

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 05:36 (five years ago) link

^ same

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:13 (five years ago) link

Well the "++" aspect (i.e. the Garbage and Anvil Vapre EPs) I totally love too, but TR itself feels like single sounds / patterns dragged out for long tracks without a lot of interest for me. Maybe too "industrial" since I love Amber and that has many of the same qualities. Oversteps I like individual bits of (krYlon comes to mind) but I found it a bit underwhelming on release and never warmed to it.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:15 (five years ago) link

My highlight picks are Amber, Chiastic, EP7, Confield, Draft, Untilted, Exai, NTS. I know everyone hates Untilted but it really works for me.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:20 (five years ago) link

Highlights for me are cichlisuite, Untilted, quaristice, garbage, draft, LP5, oversteps

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:26 (five years ago) link

omg how did I forget cichlisuite and garbage. LP5 is all-time too.

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:34 (five years ago) link

>I dunno, "6IE.CR" that I get from "I Know You Got Soul". No abstract thought required. And I am 99.999% sure that they are motivated the same way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa5VOj6nZiY

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:49 (five years ago) link

ive never listened to this band before

flopson, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:52 (five years ago) link

Yeah I love that Microphone Fiend thing - it's an excerpt from their Coachella 1999 set (which is all great).

startled macropod (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 06:54 (five years ago) link

ugh I hate the idea that there is anything to "get" with Autechre. It's just incredibly great sounding music / sound.

Well, for me there was. a while ago I got the first 3 albums and enjoyed them somewhat but never really understood the fuss about it. like...Aphex, Squarepusher, u-ziq...all this stuff felt so much more lively to me, while Ae just came off like a technical exercise. gave it one last shot with Amber and I noticed on the track "Foil" that the volume of the bass was constantly fluctuating. and suddenly it just all clicked for me. I really don't know why such a minor and somewhat gimmicky thing made me an Autechre fan for life but it did. The rest of Amber sounded amazing. Then I went back to the other two and they were great as well. That's why I wrote the "magic eye" bit, it really was like that for me.

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:21 (five years ago) link

LP5, is that the one that starts with what sounds like spilling ball bearings? The first time I heard that I thought it was so weird and cool that they essentially programmed something so apparently chaotic and random.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:25 (five years ago) link

frogbs' experience seems incredibly otm to me. i tried to get into autechre in college and i don't think... i had listened to enough music? i was a huge fan of adjacent idm but let's be real in hindsight autechre was doing something v different from adjacent idm. but when i finally understood it (approximately... a week ago, lol) it was bc some detail had gradually worked itself out of the background and become visible and crucial to me. (this is how melody works in their songs imo, it's never a foreground detail but something working in and out of focus.) it's v painterly, their effect, and a painting, though reassembling itself in the exact same way every time you see it, can mean wildly different things to you depending on the context through which you're perceiving it. ten years later you're like "oh i never noticed the way the light works on the water there"

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link

^^^ this is my submission for whiney's next poll

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link

Probably the thread to admit I've only ever heard one Autechre album. Fairly pleasant.

Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:42 (five years ago) link

LP5, is that the one that starts with what sounds like spilling ball bearings? The first time I heard that I thought it was so weird and cool that they essentially programmed something so apparently chaotic and random.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 9:25 AM (twenty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Are you sure you aren't referring to the first track on Confield, "VI Scose Poise?"

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:51 (five years ago) link

also, sorta wish we could move all this talk to the general Autechre thread

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 13:53 (five years ago) link

Ha, yeah, it's totally Confield!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:00 (five years ago) link

Even as they were released I sort of lopped their albums into eras. There were the first few, up to and including Tri Repatae, which were sort of more familiar EDM/industrial/whatever. Then things started to get crazy and abstract with LP5 and Confield, then things turned more accessible ("accessible") with "Oversteps" and (iirc) "Exai" before going into its current epic post-CD phase with Live. At least that's how my brain divides them up. Been a while since I listened to the whole discography, which may have become impossible, given that 8 hour albums alone require a bit of effort to listen to and digest.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:06 (five years ago) link

I'm going to crosspost this to the Autechre thread in the name of consolidation!

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 14:07 (five years ago) link

xp i would agree w/ you josh except to me incunabula and amber fit in the first phase and everything post-flutter up to LP5 is second phase

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

i love watching the progression of the cover art through the early work

not surprisingly i guess i checked out when the art got bad

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:02 (five years ago) link

Really something that this thread has now basically turned into "What was Autechre's New Jersey"

we æt so many shimripl (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:03 (five years ago) link

designers republic 4eva

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

eh not that surprising if you think about it

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:04 (five years ago) link

Really something that this thread has now basically turned into "What was Autechre's New Jersey"

lmao what

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 17:46 (five years ago) link

Maybe there should be a word for the point in a musical artist's career when a majority of fans give up on them, but a vocal minority of fans insist that all of the artist's best material comes after this point. A Confield? A Tilt?

silverfish, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 18:02 (five years ago) link

Confield and everything after >>> everything up to Confield

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 18:25 (five years ago) link

confield and everything else IS better ... for me to poop on!

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 18:28 (five years ago) link

it's all good. yay i'm the best fan!

a majority of fans give up on them

objection, speculation! even chiastic was some difficult shit at the time, i wouldn't be surprised if most people who made it that far are still true believers.

lana del boy (ledge), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 18:52 (five years ago) link

Totally depends which Autechre record you hear first. If I was played confield as my first I would have never bothered exploring further. Whereas hearing Tri Repetae-garbage EP was far more accessible as a sixteen year old into beck and tori Amos

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:11 (five years ago) link

Interestingly enough, I got much more into their Confield and later material around the time I started really getting into Abstract Expressionism and other forms of detailed abstraction in the visual arts. I find how my brain processes and appreciates them is similar respectively.

octobeard, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:34 (five years ago) link

between this and your post about "certain types of jazz" i can only assume you're trolling, octobeard

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:35 (five years ago) link

never been able to get into anything before EP7

imago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:37 (five years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/eoMJuTQ.gif

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

most jazz is only perceived as intellectual because people don't understand what's going on

it's ok to just find things cool and trippy, theres no need to intellectualize weird splats and pings

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:38 (five years ago) link

this is how poptimism dies, not with bang but buried under autechre threads

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

i'm ok w/ killing poptism btw

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

if you want a really kooky confession, I don't think NTS' highs are as high as elseq's, based on my first listen

imago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 19:42 (five years ago) link

Hmmmm...intrigued. Please explain!

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

(I've been immersed in NTS for most of the past 48 hours or so, and yes I do believe I am slowly going mad)

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

every time someone makes a grand proclamation about which half or third of autechre’s discography is superior i scoff

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

never been able to get into anything before EP7

― imago, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 12:37 PM (forty-five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post

wait sometimes i scoff and then realize how in character the post is

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

I don't know what that means but I agree with imago fwiw, though it isn't so much that I can't get into anything before EP7 as when I listen back now to those older albums they don't reset my brain chemistry like latter day AE (though some of those earlier albums did at one time). The career demarcations may not be clear cut (see above), but there's clearly a narrative / progression at work over the course of the discography and I feel like they're peaking right now

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

btw not to go all Central Casting Autechre Fan but the concurrent Autechre threads are wreaking havoc on my OCD right about now

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 20:56 (five years ago) link

Hmmmm...intrigued. Please explain!

― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 8:16 PM (fifty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

elseq redux

DISC 1

elyc6 onset
mesh cinereal

DISC 2

latentcall
eastre

^^^has a claim to be their best album, and certainly if it'd been released like this I'd still be raving about it now

imago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link

Dunno I think the foregrounding of melody in Tri and cichlisuite is dope. Garbage has one of the best melodies in the catalog and vietrmix or whatever it’s called is an ambient portal to pure bliss. Sure there’s lovely parts on later work but I think preference of what yer favourite autechre periods are is fine

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:25 (five years ago) link

Every time they come out with a new one I go through all the old records and it's amazing how great some of those early ones still sound, even if they feel a bit obsoleted or whatever. I mean Incunabula still sounds great, even though it's arguably their worst LP. As much as I love that era of IDM, I never really liked that woozy tape feel that a lot of the classics have. IMO it's tough to break them into eras, each album + accompanying EPs is sort of like an era of its own, though to me the big shifts were on Confield and Quaristice.

frogbs, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 21:26 (five years ago) link

I can't really fault any of their albums. the one that's aged the most is Amber, which I really liked for a long time but doesn't quite hit the sweet spot as much any more. While my love for that one has faded, I've only got to love Incunabula more. I used to think Draft and Untilted were not so hot but now I love them, while the Quaristice/Oversteps stuff has taken a backseat (much as I was impressed with them at the time). I guess with this stuff it's never entirely clear when a certain sound or track will hit you. I still find Confield the most challenging tbh

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:10 (five years ago) link

elseq redux

DISC 1

elyc6 onset
mesh cinereal

DISC 2

latentcall
eastre

^^^has a claim to be their best album, and certainly if it'd been released like this I'd still be raving about it now

― imago, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 5:17 PM (eighteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Predictably, I cannot associate any of these titles with their songs. Like I think I said upthread (or maybe it was on the other thread), I never made the time necessary for elseq to sink in. Part of it was the timing, part of it was the sheer volume of material (though I should mention I'm having no such trouble with the even longer NTS), but I really do need to revisit, and may start with these four. Thanks!

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:16 (five years ago) link

man if amber doesn’t reset your brain chemistry idk

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

It's a journey. I love how Autechre's past isn't set in stone. Their enormous evolution continues to put their previous albums into a new light. Amber has def aged the most, but how gracefully it ages. Incunabula can feel so fresh playing it right after, say, NTS 4. Confield is the most challenging, but for me also the biggest sign-post of what was to come, in hind-sight. It's an album that predicted Ae's future, while at the same time sounds 'dated' now, because they caught it out and outdone it times thousand.

xp to DL

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

also - is Move of Ten the most slept on (as distinct from least loved) Autechre release? No one ever seems to talk about it and I will admit the replay value on that one for me wasn't too high

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:19 (five years ago) link

autechre is a journey maaaaaaan

can't wait for the dick's picks

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:26 (five years ago) link

between this and your post about "certain types of jazz" i can only assume you're trolling, octobeard

― the late great, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 12:35 PM (two hours ago)

Shhhhh I'm trying to get Whiney to quote me for his next poll

octobeard, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

xp i'm not trying to be mean i just don't understand how "Their [new work] continues to put their previous albums into a new light" can't be applied to any number of artists

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:29 (five years ago) link

Move of ten is dope

done and dusted (Ross), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:32 (five years ago) link

xp i'm not trying to be mean i just don't understand how "Their [new work] continues to put their previous albums into a new light" can't be applied to any number of artists

― the late great, Thursday, May 3, 2018 12:29 AM (five minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I didn't say it can't be applied to other artists?

You're not being "mean", you're just being an ass. "maaaaaaan".

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:37 (five years ago) link

lol you are so touchy

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

CONTROP

Autechre is mediocre. They have like 7 good tracks and the rest are obvious piss takes. C74 has more to do with their repertoire than they do.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:42 (five years ago) link

i would have voted 'can't tell aphex and autechre apart'

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:43 (five years ago) link

stick to ile tombo?

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link

xp like i know some people's thing on ilm is crazy OTT enthusiasm about everything they like ... but c'mon, not every journey is worth taking

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link

no wait fuck autechre

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

i hate journeys

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 22:46 (five years ago) link

I know I’m supposed to fuck off these threads

Aphex and Autechre are like San Francisco and all my other crushes from 16-21 to me. I used to think you were my thing! I aspired to be like them / live in them / be them / whatever and then PBFFTFYDUDHZDDHXJXUFIVICDJAIDYUVKF what the hell is this I need to throw away these shoes and burn the socks

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

stick to ile tombo?

― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, May 2, 2018 3:45 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol i typed this as a joke and the more i read it the meaner it seems so i regret it, sorry tombot!

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:01 (five years ago) link

what the hell is this I need to throw away these shoes and burn the socks

this is what pretty much everyone on the str8 fire thread has been trying to tell you for awhile now

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:02 (five years ago) link

xp like i know some people's thing on ilm is crazy OTT enthusiasm about everything they like ... but c'mon, not every journey is worth taking

― the late great, Thursday, May 3, 2018 12:45 AM (twelve minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Thank heavens you're here to tell enthusiasts about music (on message borad *I LOVE MUSIC*) to not be too enthusiastic about music. You're really doing god's work.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:03 (five years ago) link

PBFFTFYDUDHZDDHXJXUFIVICDJAIDYUVKF

Which Autechre album is this on?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:04 (five years ago) link


this is what pretty much everyone on the str8 fire thread has been trying to tell you for awhile now


well played, but keep your fucking mouth shut about the socks, okay? You don’t know the socks.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:05 (five years ago) link

Josh, that’s the seed variable for everything they’ve done that I haven’t liked.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:07 (five years ago) link

LBI this particular thread is explicitly about shitting on autechre fandom, so maybe it's not the best thread for you to be reading?

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:10 (five years ago) link

don't take it personal is all i'm saying

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:11 (five years ago) link

people talk shit about music they don't like and disagree w/ statements about whether music is good or bad or not on ILM all the time, not sure why your autechre fandom should be some sort of sacred cow

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:12 (five years ago) link

Autechre peaked with "Lowride", let's be real

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:15 (five years ago) link

lol ilu brimstead

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link

I'm ok with people shitting on autechre fandom; I'm far from their biggest fan. I couldn't care less. But bring something to the table at the very least instead of these, quite frankly, dreadfully weak takes.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:16 (five years ago) link

i guess it’s a little weird to jump into a conversation in which everyone has been enthusiastic about their newest work and say “wow, uh, i got off this train at quaristice for some reason, also i’m gonna be critical of the praise and degree of enthusiasm itt”. just a curious approach

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:19 (five years ago) link

people do that all the time on ILM! usually about way more boring music.

brimstead otm re: lowride, that is an amazing track

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:20 (five years ago) link

i like my takes like my grandpa liked his tea: hot and weak

the late great, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:22 (five years ago) link

at least we can all agree that lowride bangs

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:23 (five years ago) link

Brad gets it, as per usual.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

(also on Lowride)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:25 (five years ago) link

PSA: Fauxtechre – New England’s premier Autechre tribute band – will be performing May 11 at the Met in Pawtucket!

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:27 (five years ago) link

Autechre cheerleaders have compelled me to buy, and force myself to listen to, about 5 more eps and albums than I should have. IDGI. It’s all taking software that I know how to use and just using it to ends that I find unsatisfying at best and annoying at worst.

25 year old me can’t believe I’m saying this, but the acoustic noise parade you get from Bang On A Can or latter-day Boredoms is much, much more evocative for me- to tears, almost - while the synthesizer ableton laptop shit makes me feel mostly nothing at best or gradually increasing irritability at worst.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

PSA: *Fauxtechre* – New England’s premier Autechre tribute band – will be performing May 11 at the Met in Pawtucket!


OK now I’m interested in a completely fake thing

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:35 (five years ago) link

Brad, LBI: I couldn’t punch it down any more. The vents opened, it was emotional physics.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:38 (five years ago) link

i actually feel you on this tombot. were i not on the precipice of another avant phase (i think? getting into latter day björk and autechre seems like a sign of something) i’d basically be agreeing with you

but i also at this point feel like i even find “difficult” autechre pleasurable (like i listened to confield the other day and thought the melodies were so strong even sitting among the dense chaotic drum programming that they felt kinda like the air through a cat’s cradle) and i’m still trying to figure out why (i *think* it’s the formal quality of their work, like even though they’re way out beyond where they were i still recognize their approach as i go through the discography, and i never feel very far away from dance music)

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:44 (five years ago) link

<3 u for explaining your take, Tombot. I think Autechre is way, way more than 'Ableton laptop shit' - the NTS sessions, for me, have proved they found the holy grail. They unearthed the universal string theory we were all in search of since forever. But I see where you're coming from. 25 year old Tombot is in the clear, just like your present day aged Tombot i simo.

(tho obv nothing will ever top Boredoms. nothing.)

xp

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:46 (five years ago) link

this particular thread is explicitly about shitting on autechre fandom

Is that what this thread is about?

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:54 (five years ago) link

some days I like listening to free/modern jazz. it clicks. the melody lines work, everything sounds pleasurable and fun. other days it just sounds like a load of chaos and noise, like a bunch of people just pissing around and taking the rise out of me. I get the feeling it's like that with Ae for a lot of people. Especially these NTS things - it's far away from structured, composed music and feels a lot more freeform/jam-style, so in some ways the value is depreciated, like they could just switch on their machines and pump this stuff out all day. I've made generative tracks in old copies of Reason that do a similar (if not more basic-sounding) sort of thing.
But I still enjoy it. So far I've been listening to this as background music, not in a deep-listening way which I usually do with a new Ae release. I think with this sort of material, that's a better way to appreciate it. Just put it on and let it do its thing.

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 May 2018 23:56 (five years ago) link

Now that this stupid poll is over can we take this discussion over to the other thread?

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 3 May 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 3 May 2018 00:01 (five years ago) link

OK now I’m interested in a completely fake thing

― El Tomboto, Wednesday, May 2, 2018 4:35 PM (four hours ago)

This is actually a real thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2QqCtKJh0E

octobeard, Thursday, 3 May 2018 04:00 (five years ago) link

yessss all 3 of mine, null points

can't work out what that means

startled macropod (MatthewK), Thursday, 3 May 2018 04:31 (five years ago) link

damn that was a shitty last 50 posts or so, great work dudes

you bet, nancy (map), Thursday, 3 May 2018 04:49 (five years ago) link

is this trip hop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPxMKJ-BtHU

done and dusted (Ross), Thursday, 3 May 2018 04:52 (five years ago) link

^^ I really like the beats, but not so much the part that sounds like someone fiddling w/a Casio in the foreground...

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Thursday, 3 May 2018 05:11 (five years ago) link

at least we can all agree that lowride bangs

gtfo with that weak-ass thin jazz piano house riff.

lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 3 May 2018 07:53 (five years ago) link

gtfo with that weak-ass thin jazz piano house riff.

This thread is impenetrable, no idea whats going on - but isn't that riff from Kool & The Gang (cant remember the title) but its one of the really good ones!

saer, Thursday, 3 May 2018 08:24 (five years ago) link

that riff is a highlight of the album wtf

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Thursday, 3 May 2018 08:50 (five years ago) link

totally takes the album into an unexpected early-nineties acid jazz realm

brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Thursday, 3 May 2018 08:50 (five years ago) link

some banging controptism happening here and imo that's a good and necessary thing also Ae for lyfe you savages

the vomming of the snark (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 3 May 2018 08:51 (five years ago) link

totally takes the album into an unexpected early-nineties acid jazz realm

thanks for making my point for me!

but isn't that riff from Kool & The Gang (cant remember the title)

i did not know this. but allegedly it's from this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SFt7JHwJeg

definitely via these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn-l_C9pxPo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ1k_BrA8CI

so possibly the lost autechre > will smith connection?

lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 3 May 2018 09:05 (five years ago) link

Voted for the winner. Yay me :)

Frederik B, Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:05 (five years ago) link

two votes for mine, must try harder.

lana del boy (ledge), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link

It's obviously also apt that the one who won this Autechre poll would be the one who is worst at spelling and grammar 8)

Frederik B, Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:45 (five years ago) link

totally takes the album into an unexpected early-nineties acid jazz realm

― brand new universal harvester (dog latin), Thursday, May 3, 2018 1:50 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i disagree that it’s unexpected but agree that all of these things are good

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 May 2018 10:55 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm just gonna say it, "dummy casual pt2" is fucking deranged. Splintered synth in agony, cokehead teeth-grinding, yawping into the void and message-sent accents.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 June 2018 10:31 (five years ago) link

The dubstep trudger. Very much makes me think of something Digital Mystikz or Skream might have played circa 2006 that on somehow.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:52 (five years ago) link

*one

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Thursday, 28 June 2018 11:53 (five years ago) link

I don't really buy the political listening angle but this is an ok read: https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/pavn49/autechre-nts-session-review-mike-shiflet-tetracosa?utm_source=nt

lana del boy (ledge), Saturday, 30 June 2018 12:31 (five years ago) link

Classic case of projection there xpost (article)

Y'all (Ross), Saturday, 30 June 2018 13:34 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

fucking "four of seven" guys, it's like essence of Amber stretching to infinity and the most beautiful coda

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 24 July 2018 13:02 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

You know, I don't think I have had this much sustained joy and gut thrills from any Ae release since Confield. I've listened to it to death and know most of the tracks thoroughly.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 10 August 2018 03:57 (five years ago) link

Good interview on pitchfork today, they consider themselves to be kindred spirits with David Lynch.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 10 August 2018 03:58 (five years ago) link

Also NTS 1 is now on spotify

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 10 August 2018 05:00 (five years ago) link

Good interview on pitchfork today, they consider themselves to be kindred spirits with David Lynch.

― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, August 9, 2018 8:58 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

oh shit we gotta add autechre themselves to the poll options j/k

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 10 August 2018 07:25 (five years ago) link

You know, I don't think I have had this much sustained joy and gut thrills from any Ae release since Confield ever. I've listened to it to death and know most of the tracks thoroughly.

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:39 (five years ago) link

Seriously, nothing has even come close to bumping this from aoty #1 with a bullet for me

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:40 (five years ago) link

It never occurred to me that, per that interview, any of these tracks might be more one of the guys than the other, it's fascinating to hear that's how they breakdown. Thinking specifically of this:

SB: We’ve never had specific roles in the band. It’s not like one of us is a bass player. We both have always done tracks on our own. All the albums, I don’t know what the proportion is exactly, but there are more solo tracks than there are tracks that we both worked on at the same time. Or we’d swap projects, you’d end up with a half-finished track and hand it over to the other guy. It’s just when you’re doing it with patches, it’s way more interesting, because you’re not stepping on the other guy’s toes by erasing or changing things because—

RB: The timeline’s still alive, isn’t it?

SB: Nothing’s frozen. It’s a lot more flexible, so there’s quite a lot of room for fuckery.

So I guess one guy works on something for a while then stops and hands it off to the other, who either finishes it or fools with it. But because they are so likeminded they basically trust the other guy to if not improve it then certainly hand it back in the same condition? Also always interested to read about their shorthand tracks taxonomy. I like how they recognize how explaining things that might in the end be rather mundane might actually make things seem more mysterious or confusing if the audience doesn't share Autechre's established working shorthand (which obviously only Rob and Sean do!).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 August 2018 14:50 (five years ago) link

The talk about building a sequencer that plays a specific pattern is probably the most specific I've seen them get to describing what their programs do.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 10 August 2018 14:56 (five years ago) link

three weeks pass...

So "all end" is a full ambient album on its own?

"elyc9 7hres" is a pretty slammin' groove

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:01 (five years ago) link

Currently obsessing over "north spiral" with its refracted-note melody never quite slipping into place, then BOOM IMMENSE DUB SECTION which is over and done in about 20 seconds after 10 minutes of rising anxiety.
Surprisingly great review - maybe the most sussed Ae review I have ever read - from p4k back in May: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/autechre-nts-sessions-1-4/

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:25 (five years ago) link

"north spiral" is a stand-out for me too. I'm slowing digesting this mass, but by bit.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:27 (five years ago) link


So "all end" is a full ambient album on its own?

that's a good way of thinking about it! "generous" seems like it's bound to end up in a thread about adjectives that are used too frequently in recent music criticism, but i skipped ahead to the conclusion of the backlash to the backlash backlash on this word, and think it's a good description of all end. all end is "generous". thank you, ae

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:29 (five years ago) link

"north spiral" is lethal

i think my absolute favorite is still "13 ctrl". it's like the soundtrack to this picture:

Cassini's last image before entering Saturn's atmosphere and burning up. pic.twitter.com/94wnlM9zJk

— Bill Wanatosky 8(a) (@DCMDVABroker) August 31, 2018

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 4 September 2018 02:36 (five years ago) link

Another slow digester, here. Been managing to loop through the whole 8 hours about once per week. My current pet fave is violvoic, just a long slow succession of earth-shaking drops. Haven't played it *really* loud yet, we've just moved and I don't want to make a bad impression with the new neighbours...

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 10:37 (five years ago) link

I've thought about this album/collection/whatever it is a lot, and describing "All End" as an album in itself (which is pretty accurate) made me wonder how I/we would think of this set or any of its installments if they hadn't been released as volumes of an 8-hour opus but as stand alone albums. Like, say a couple of years had gone by and then, here you go, NTS Sessions 2, this is our new album (with none of the other volumes). Or say "All End" *was* the new Autechre album. Would I/we love it as much? Certainly the length and division of the whole NTS Sessions span affected how I approached it and how I listen to it, so getting all of that music at once must have had some bearing on my reaction and opinion as well.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 11:46 (five years ago) link

I don't think they could've released 'All End' as a single "here's our new album" album, without the whole world thinking it was indeed their end. The joy of the NTS Sessions is that they've branched out what Autechre can be: they can be ambient now, too. For me the many shades of NTS1-4 means I'll def listen to Autechre even more.

Perhaps what I mean is they've gone beyond being Autechre; at least the 'singular' (if you could say that about them, you probably can't but) Autechre. The flavors on offer have multiplied.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 11:52 (five years ago) link

And here's me thinking they'd released many, many ambient tracks already through their career! (They even did an hour-long ambient track once before already, a decade ago ...)

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:03 (five years ago) link

Haha no you're right! Just not in the hour long arch, Basinski-type way.

What ambient track are you referring to btw?

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:04 (five years ago) link

(That was meant in jest!)

Perlence subrange 6-36 from the Quaristice.Quadrange.ep.ae e.p.

Steve Reich In The Afternoon (Against The 80s), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link

Ah yes, thanks!

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:22 (five years ago) link

its a weird one because you'd swear it was just a loop but something changes every time your mind starts to wander

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:32 (five years ago) link

I think "all end" is cool and all but if it disappeared I wouldn't miss it

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:38 (five years ago) link

I know we're talking about NTS now but it just sort of dawned on me that a lot of the tracks on elseq are like extensions of the sort of experimental synthesizer stuff that Conrad Schnitzler did? I'm listening to "elyc6 0nset" now and if I didn't know better I'd think this was a lost Schnitzler album....perhaps more technical and complex than anything he was capable of but the ideas and the *sounds* are sort of the same aren't they?

frogbs, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:42 (five years ago) link

The sounds absolutely are. Take 'Consequenz' or 'Con', to name just two. (I've not been able to keep up with the huge flow of CS albums after his death tbf)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 12:51 (five years ago) link

"elyc6 0nset" always makes me think of the nightmarish scene towards the end of Kill List and the main character's being chased through those tunnels by screaming demi-creatures

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 5 September 2018 13:35 (five years ago) link

there's also the whole field of computer music, electro-acoustic music...

brimstead, Wednesday, 5 September 2018 15:15 (five years ago) link

Some very nice movement in "glos ceramic".

I'm quickly coming around to the opinion that NTS is quite a bit stronger than elseq. The tracks mostly feel more intentional and groove-friendly, which are good things for me.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 10 September 2018 01:18 (five years ago) link

Maybe the same amount of information and ideas as elseq, but given space and allowed to unfold more accessibly. I’m finding it really difficult to listen to other artists for more than half a day at a time, it just keeps reeling me back in.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 10 September 2018 10:10 (five years ago) link

I've had the same experience. Of course, it doesn't hurt that 2018 has been an unbelievably shit year for music afaic

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 10 September 2018 12:08 (five years ago) link

totally distracting how often one has to change discs with this as an 8 CD set. at the same time, the slow-evolving pace of the music seems not to fit with the old paradigms of putting a disc in and pressing play. I usually only dig into an album once I have the physical disc, and I love everything about this album & the statement, the way it debuted as streams & files, going through it first hearing bits of it off laptop speakers as it looped through the two hour cycle, then later playing it off a USB keydrive with four folders on it plugged into my car stereo, just having the music pick up wherever it left off whenever I got back behind the wheel. but this physical version of it feels like... like it's not the real version. happened to me with that Kayn 16 CD box as well, that was music that made the most sense on its first release as two seven-hour long files. all pretty modern & has me appreciating this new album even more.

Milton Parker, Monday, 10 September 2018 21:11 (five years ago) link

Hmm. I've got the 18 sides of vinyl and I don't really feel the same. I feel it makes it more manageable to methodically (and excitedly) work my way through it. I didn't hear it before I got the records though, so that maybe different.

kraudive, Monday, 10 September 2018 22:30 (five years ago) link

How's 'All End' divided up on vinyl? Do the sides end with a harsh cut-to-quiet in the middle of it? (i've the cd set)

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 10 September 2018 22:40 (five years ago) link

actually it's 24 sides of vinyl! Pretty sure "All End" gets 3 sides. In a recent Japan interview Sean says it's a piece taken from the end of "bladelores" but the entire track is "end", hence the title.
I used to play CDs a lot because I had a player with a really nice DAC and output preamp, but then I bought a nice standalone DAC with similar components and I run lossless USB 44/16 to it - equally great sound, no need to change discs.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 10 September 2018 23:30 (five years ago) link

nineFLY bangs too hard, I get a little jolt of anxiety knowing what's coming when it comes on

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 10 September 2018 23:34 (five years ago) link

when are we polling this sumbitch

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 00:24 (five years ago) link

I'm so ready for the poll

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 01:16 (five years ago) link

will it be a single track pick? because, no.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 04:46 (five years ago) link

We could poll the 4 sessions, I guess

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 05:41 (five years ago) link

Ballot poll of all the tracks. Could just do it all on this thread.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 07:52 (five years ago) link

i am so not ready to poll this and probably never will be

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 08:56 (five years ago) link

I know this has turned into an Autechre fan thread which is great and all but I'd never seen this Whiney poll before and it's the same needlessly cruel vein as the Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith poll a couple years back. I respect the guy tremendously as a writer, so my question is this: was he always this much of a sociopath (on ILX)?

It's like an Christian pop (thewufs), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 08:57 (five years ago) link

yep.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Tuesday, 11 September 2018 10:01 (five years ago) link

yea he's been policing people for liking things the wrong way ever since I've been here at least

frogbs, Tuesday, 11 September 2018 12:30 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

today i would like to celebrate "gonk steady one"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 September 2018 17:27 (five years ago) link

that track had me jumping up and down in my kitchen like an idiot, fist in the air during the livestream

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Thursday, 27 September 2018 17:48 (five years ago) link

e0 is my favourite at the moment. Still can't make my mind up about this record, so it's probably brilliant

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 27 September 2018 18:08 (five years ago) link

for how long some/all of these tracks are, they breathe a lot and don't ever really get exhausting

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 27 September 2018 19:03 (five years ago) link

Funny - that's the exact track I'm listening to at the moment when I hopped into this thread today!

octobeard, Thursday, 27 September 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

No. 3 finally clicked for me last week. The tracks definitely don't develop as much as on the other sessions but I started to see them as sublime machines, maybe repetitive but with a complex and beautiful motion.

In other news, I didn't get around to buying a t-shirt and now they're sold out I'm unaccountably forlorn.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Friday, 28 September 2018 09:17 (five years ago) link

acid mwan idle is still a hard sell though.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Friday, 28 September 2018 11:04 (five years ago) link

tt1pd though... I could hear this in the rave tent at some sort of mad summer festival

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 28 September 2018 12:39 (five years ago) link

acid mwan idle is still a hard sell though.

― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Friday, September 28, 2018 7:04 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

not on headphones!

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 28 September 2018 15:22 (five years ago) link

"four of seven" is a banger that disintegrates into hard ambient cubes. i think it's my favorite now?

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 28 September 2018 18:51 (five years ago) link

tt1pd sounds like a creaky rocking chair (in a good way)

silverfish, Friday, 28 September 2018 19:01 (five years ago) link

it has been nice to slowly realize over the course of months how much of this is downright catchy

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 28 September 2018 19:06 (five years ago) link

i've had a couple of moments where a track that hasn't at all been in my go-to list has suddenly popped in to my head and comfortably sat in there for a day or two.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Friday, 28 September 2018 19:39 (five years ago) link

i wasn't big on 'four of seven' at first but now it's one of my favorites. it's a magnificent slow burn. the hooks in that thing are just hard in a really subtle way.

macropuente (map), Saturday, 29 September 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link

tt1pd is the one that gets my head banging a little bit. sounds great on the road.

macropuente (map), Saturday, 29 September 2018 02:56 (five years ago) link

tt1pd though... I could hear this in the rave tent at some sort of mad summer festival

― Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, September 28, 2018 5:39 AM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 September 2018 18:18 (five years ago) link

"shimripl air" is just the empty howl of space

princess of hell (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 September 2018 23:52 (five years ago) link

RE-POLL

or should that be “shimrepoll air”?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 30 September 2018 00:14 (five years ago) link

excuse my rude joke

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 30 September 2018 00:14 (five years ago) link

lol

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 September 2018 00:15 (five years ago) link

I vote for four separate polls (one for each session)

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 30 September 2018 01:15 (five years ago) link

That would be more manageable if we did one at a time and each one were open for a couple weeks.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 30 September 2018 01:59 (five years ago) link

I thought yr description was cool Brad

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 30 September 2018 06:24 (five years ago) link

if we did a poll (ballot poll) of the whole thing then that would give you a result for each individual session.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Sunday, 30 September 2018 07:27 (five years ago) link

shimripl air" is just the empty howl of space

True but i was just listening to it while watching this and they went together pretty nicely:

カピバラ置物疑惑 pic.twitter.com/XPeGF9wIqt

— ちまちゃん (@nn930310) September 29, 2018

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Sunday, 30 September 2018 08:16 (five years ago) link

This seems as good a place as any to mention that after many years Chiastic Slide has finally clicked with me.

Gavin, Leeds, Sunday, 30 September 2018 10:16 (five years ago) link

finding it difficult to say which session is my favorite. my favorite track seems easier, "shimripl casual" or "four of seven" or "violvoic" or "fLh" ok that isn't easy either

princess of hell (BradNelson), Sunday, 30 September 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

Yeah I ranked 11 of these tracks 5 stars on my itunes, so yeah, would be a tough poll

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 30 September 2018 20:01 (five years ago) link

'tt1pd' sounds like what you might hear when your head is pushed down in a bucket of ice water for a bit too long. In a good way, if that's at all possible to imagine.

Idk what my fave session is, it's between 3 and 4 probably, but this whole mammoth of an 'album' gnaws away at me deliciously. Not surprisingly the ambient stretches are my fave, so I'd have to say 4 right? But then suddenly a piece like 'shimripl air' comes along, on 3, and it suddenly just... stops the world from turning.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:08 (five years ago) link

i decided over the weekend my favorite is 3. 2 and 4 close behind

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:16 (five years ago) link

3 just kinda has the widest variety of moods and some of the most punishing moments and i keep getting drawn back to both of these things

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:17 (five years ago) link

btw much as i dislike the poll at the top of this thread, clearly the winner is

Through 3 of these sessions and I feel I could reduce the 6 hours to about 1.5 for a personal "mini album".

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

I'm really getting into the ambient pieces that initially felt incidental, like 32_areflected and shrimpl casual

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:18 (five years ago) link

ps It's a shambles we're discussing this great album in earnest in one of whiney's many, many dumb throwaway threads. AE deserve better, as do we iirc.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

3 just kinda has the widest variety of moods and some of the most punishing moments and i keep getting drawn back to both of these things

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, October 1, 2018 10:17 PM (one minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That's cool. 3 seems like 'safest bet' of the 4 sessions, because of its variety, but 'safest bet' not meant in any derogatory way at all.

I will have to go with 4. I always go with 4. Ambient Autechre 4 life.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

ps It's a shambles we're discussing this great album in earnest in one of whiney's many, many dumb throwaway threads. AE deserve better, as do we iirc.

just get a mod to delete the first two words from the title.

3 just kinda has the widest variety of moods

hmm, aside from shrimpl air it mostly feels like relentless machinery to me! in a good way of course. i'd probably rank them 1,2,4,3, though if i carry on listening to them as solidly as i have been that could still change.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link

funky ae > terrifying ae > ambient ae > machine ae

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link

3 is extremely funky

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

funky ae > terrifying ae > ambient ae > machine ae

― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Monday, October 1, 2018 1:25 PM (twenty-six seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

in fact i'd say the poles of this hierarchy are v much interrelated things

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:26 (five years ago) link

well yeah it's somewhat reductive.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

Joke's on us probably, I can see AE never having thought of clear distinctions between '1, 2, 3, 4' to begin with.

(a poll between the four discs would be a dumb idea imo but ymmv)

-- bazzilion xposts --

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

i really like the idea of song polls for each volume

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

mostly bc i like listening to these records so much and having a reason to spend even more time with them sounds great to me

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:31 (five years ago) link

i need someone to talk me through the ones that haven't clicked yet, like t1a1 and bbqbbq.

Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Monday, 1 October 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

funky ae > terrifying ae > ambient ae > machine ae

― Winner of the 2018 Great British Bae *cough* (ledge), Monday, October 1, 2018 4:25 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

switch ambient ae and machine ae and I'm right there with ya. 4 is the only Session I wouldn't consider voting for in a poll.

mostly bc i like listening to these records so much and having a reason to spend even more time with them sounds great to me

― princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, October 1, 2018 4:31 PM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ditto, any excuse to revisit, plus I'd love to get some other perspectives to maybe see certain tracks in a different light

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 1 October 2018 20:50 (five years ago) link

xp t1a1 makes little sense except at seismic volume levels when it becomes the best ever, chthonic boom-bap

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 1 October 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

bbqbbq

i think this one is very nice if you have a quality sound situation, headphones or big loud speakers or whatever, and can just focus on the ingenious little bends in the voicing.

j., Monday, 1 October 2018 21:10 (five years ago) link

i'll crank up the volume tomorrow then.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Monday, 1 October 2018 21:33 (five years ago) link

another vote for doing separate polls for each volume.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link

i think my volume ranking is 2 > 1 > 3 > 4

i love getting lost in 'shrimripl casual'. also 'turbile epic casual'. also 'frane casual'

i think my favorite shorter ambient pieces are "sinistrailab air" and "carefree counter dronal." the latter especially always sounds so warm and friendly to me.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 03:18 (five years ago) link

i think bbqbbq is self-evidently great. weird pensive curiosity.

at this point the only tracks i'm not completely gaga over are 't1a1' and '9 chr0'. i feel like the former is a little boring honestly, though i do like the mood it settles into for the last 5 minutes. the latter is cool but often the sound profile of it gets on my nerves, it's those very loud mid-heavy blocks of sound.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 03:29 (five years ago) link

3 just kinda has the widest variety of moods

on further listening i was wrong and you are right, there is a lot of variety between the tracks. however i'm not sure there as much variety or development within each track? or maybe they just haven't hooked me as much as the others for whatever inexplicable reason.

there's a lot of between track variety in 2 too...

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 10:11 (five years ago) link

I don't think of this as 4 different albums - I tend to listen to the whole thing on shuffle tbh.

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 10:23 (five years ago) link

haha and isn't it bqbqbq ?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 10:24 (five years ago) link

maybe? [flips burger]

you're missing some u+k transitions if you listen on shuffle - four of seven to 32a_reflected, ****mirrage to column thirteen****

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 10:51 (five years ago) link

wetgelis to e0

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 11:06 (five years ago) link

bqbqbq is definitely a highlight for me, so tactile (AE's stuff generally is but even so). Vol. 1 is still my favourite at this point but I'm not sure if that's just because I've spent the most time with it.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 11:49 (five years ago) link

bqbqbq is on my 'Music That Sounds Like Super Metroid' playlist

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link

at this point the only tracks i'm not completely gaga over are 't1a1' and '9 chr0'. i feel like the former is a little boring honestly, though i do like the mood it settles into for the last 5 minutes. the latter is cool but often the sound profile of it gets on my nerves, it's those very loud mid-heavy blocks of sound.

I get this, but as with so many of these, "9 chr0" shifts gears about five minutes in and settles down, gets more spacious and zoned out.

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 12:55 (five years ago) link

you're missing some u+k transitions if you listen on shuffle - four of seven to 32a_reflected, ****mirrage to column thirteen****

okay... you're right. i tried V2 at lunch and it's so much nicer in that order

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 13:16 (five years ago) link

Today I'm enjoying:

- the snarling, thudding tremens of violvoic. sounds incredible on headphones, especially at the 12.40 - 13:00 mark
- Ligeti / Kubrick vibes on xflood

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 15:35 (five years ago) link

hey everyone, i havent heard much autechre since quaristice and oversteps - where do you start since then, seems daunting af

ritual showdown (Ross), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:20 (five years ago) link

NTS Sessions

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:21 (five years ago) link

Just pick one of the sessions and check it out. There's plenty of good stuff on all 4.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:22 (five years ago) link

yeah def hop into the new records. i'd say start with 2, it gives you a p good sense of what they're doing

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

also i think it has the strongest opening run

princess of hell (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:30 (five years ago) link

I think these are all good tracks to start with:

gonk steady one on NTS 1
tt1pd on NTS 3
column 13 on NTS 4

or else just go back to Exai which feels like where their current phase really started and is probably less daunting

silverfish, Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link

I honestly think the new tracks, although lengthy, are easier going than stuff off of Exai and Elseq.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

^^

you might not feel that way when the first track gets going ... just trust us on this

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 20:45 (five years ago) link

oh i got a lot of time for autechre - exai is great too, forgot about that one

i mean i always rep hard for garbage tho from TRI REPETAE, and vordhosbn which is like my fave ambient piece ever

montoya (Ross), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

guessing you mean vletrmx

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 21:35 (five years ago) link

yeah Ross I just mean they deliberately started this album with its most off-putting tracks, nothing to do with anyone's level of acclimation to Ae

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 2 October 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link

So weird, I like the opening run of #1 too much and have to remind myself to spread my listening and avoid burnout.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 00:13 (five years ago) link

They're great but you have to admit most albums start with one of their hookier numbers yeah

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 00:22 (five years ago) link

Should we poll one Session at a time or have all four going at once?

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 00:58 (five years ago) link

one at a time, go in order

macropuente (map), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 01:04 (five years ago) link

otm

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 01:08 (five years ago) link

My favorite "album mix" of NTS tracks:

1. l3 ctrl
2. e0
3. icari
4. four of seven
5. 32a_reflected

I have a number of other album length mini playlists but this feels the most accessible and album like for someone wanting to get into the Sessions. Includes tracks from 1, 2, and 3.

octobeard, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 01:57 (five years ago) link

Wow, listening to these as actual 'albums' is like hearing the finished version of Smile for the first time. It all starts making a lot more sense. I'm on NTS 3 today after enjoying NTS 2 yesterday.

Quite enjoying Acid Mwan Idle's dubbed out diving bell vibes; makes me think of a more abstract Two Lone Swordsmen

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 11:27 (five years ago) link

yeah i love "acid mwan idle"

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link

it just kinda sounds like some evil ritual

princess of hell (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 11:42 (five years ago) link

I've only gotten through NTS 1 & 2 so far, but I'm finally starting on 3. Really gotta wait for the right afternoon to get into these.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 20:29 (five years ago) link

tt1pd is a headbanger

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:50 (five years ago) link

If you moved "frane casual" and "column thirteen" to Session 3, then Session 3 would contain the highest number of tracks I cannot live without.

But Session 2 has "xflood," "gonk tuf hi," "dummy casual pt2," "violvoic," and "e0," which are all 5/5 imo.

If we ever poll the entire box, not sure I could pick between 2 and 3.

1 has "gonk steady one" and "four of seven" back to back, both of which are brilliant, but 1 has the highest number of tracks I might be tempted to skip.

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 3 October 2018 21:56 (five years ago) link

I don't really get frane casual, just spins on the spot in a place that doesn't interest me. Though the fat yet hollow thrummm that develops in the background is something I could get into.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, 4 October 2018 08:05 (five years ago) link

Trying to go back through the first 3 sessions to make a playlist of my favorites, but now it all seems strangely unfamiliar. So Autechre.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 4 October 2018 21:38 (five years ago) link

I like how everyone is afraid to actually make the poll

Or maybe no one wants to type out all of those ridiculous titles

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 5 October 2018 00:21 (five years ago) link

Autechre - NTS Session 1 POLL

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 October 2018 00:49 (five years ago) link

one month passes...

nts sessions is still so good you guys

i don't really notice that much anymore but tonight it just sort of hit me that this is very out-there, challenging and rewarding music.

I don't really get frane casual, just spins on the spot in a place that doesn't interest me. Though the fat yet hollow thrummm that develops in the background is something I could get into.

― Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Thursday, October 4, 2018 9:05 AM (one month ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i used to feel the same about frane casual but that track has a loooot going on, confined to an extremely weird and minute diorama with all the low tones bleached out.

macropuente (map), Tuesday, 20 November 2018 04:20 (five years ago) link

i wish i heard this stuff when i listened to autechre, mostly sounds like bleeps n bloops to me :-/

flopson, Tuesday, 20 November 2018 05:24 (five years ago) link

don't let these nutters give you alien robocity synaesthete fomo!! it's bleeps n bloops

j., Tuesday, 20 November 2018 05:33 (five years ago) link

my soul is bleeps and bloops

octobeard, Thursday, 22 November 2018 11:00 (five years ago) link

New track?

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:21 (five years ago) link

autechre.lnk.to/as-singles

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

http://autechre.lnk.to/as-singles

family obligations prevent me from listening to it at this time.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

Fuck, this is good!

cheeseburger, Wednesday, 5 December 2018 19:24 (five years ago) link

it needs more digital reverb..

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Wednesday, 5 December 2018 21:05 (five years ago) link

it's really good. reference to Netlon Sentinel from EP7? It exudes a similar cosmic darkness.. while being sort of dubstep??

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:00 (five years ago) link

... and sinitrailA/Bair from the NTS sessions, which it's a sort of remix of

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:04 (five years ago) link

i dig it

macropuente (map), Thursday, 6 December 2018 00:14 (five years ago) link

I just signed in to the AE store to redownload a prior purchase and this new single was available for free download from the dashboard.

I am using your worlds, Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:39 (five years ago) link

i, also, dig it

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 6 December 2018 21:55 (five years ago) link

I just signed in to the AE store to redownload a prior purchase and this new single was available for free download from the dashboard.

― I am using your worlds

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 7 December 2018 00:23 (five years ago) link

I just signed in to the AE store to redownload a prior purchase and this new single was available for free download from the dashboard.

― I am using your worlds


Hey, thanks for the heads up! That reverb-smeared laser-whisp @ 6:42 took me back to Oversteps

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 7 December 2018 00:33 (five years ago) link

This track really pays off.. after becoming fixated on the original Perlence track, on regular old Quaristice.

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 7 December 2018 00:36 (five years ago) link

Thanks for the tip - downloading now.

grawlix (unperson), Friday, 7 December 2018 00:53 (five years ago) link

yep, dl worked for me too. Thanks for the head's up!

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 7 December 2018 01:03 (five years ago) link

now download option for me :(

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Friday, 7 December 2018 09:21 (five years ago) link

For me it didn’t show up for purchase, I had to sign in and it was then already in my available downloads

I am using your worlds, Friday, 7 December 2018 15:30 (five years ago) link

Dang this is a fantastic track, too. Very much an NTS leftover, but really, it should have been on the sessions. wow.

octobeard, Friday, 7 December 2018 20:23 (five years ago) link

It'd be a delightful twist of events if Autechre started using mechanical spring reverb (recording their sounds through amplifiers, etc.), instead of relying on the digital reverb-freeze effects that have been so prominent since the Quaristice days. I suppose it's ridiculous to consider such a thing. If anything, Ae seem to be moving further / farther away from hardware (old school synthesizers, Elektron boxes, etc.), towards this hyper-digital frontier

braunld (Lowell N. Behold'n), Friday, 7 December 2018 20:44 (five years ago) link

has there been a poll for Session 4 yet? that one is my favorite by far

flappy bird, Friday, 7 December 2018 21:32 (five years ago) link

Christmas number one material, this Sinistrail Sentinel :-)

StanM, Saturday, 8 December 2018 14:20 (five years ago) link

Chart rules don't allow free downloads otherwise it would be a shoo-in.

The First (Noel Emits), Saturday, 8 December 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

who's going to start the session 4 poll then?

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Saturday, 8 December 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

pendulu hv moda is sinistrail sentinel's moda if sinistrailAB air is its fada.

The First (Noel Emits), Saturday, 8 December 2018 17:21 (five years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://fivedials.com/reportage/an-album-can-last-a-day-sam-byers/

j., Saturday, 22 December 2018 20:49 (five years ago) link

two months pass...

it’s not always the music that changes; sometimes it’s you, and the world around you, with the music becoming a fixed point against which you can measure your own inexorable journey through time.

otm

lukas, Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:49 (five years ago) link


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