Autechre - NTS Session 1 POLL

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Choose your favorite abstract electronic epic from the first of 4 NTS sessions.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
gonk steady one 6
l3 ctrl 5
north spiral 5
debris_funk 4
four of seven 2
t1a1 1
bqbqbq 1
32a_reflected 1
carefree counter dronal 0


Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 October 2018 00:48 (two months ago) Permalink

voted all

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 5 October 2018 01:23 (two months ago) Permalink

it's basically tied between 13 ctrl, north spiral, gonk steady one and four of seven for me .. feel like the last three will get more votes so i'm going to throw one to 13 ctrl.

macropuente (map), Friday, 5 October 2018 01:24 (two months ago) Permalink

it's basically a space opera imo

macropuente (map), Friday, 5 October 2018 01:31 (two months ago) Permalink

N O R T H S P I R A L

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 5 October 2018 01:36 (two months ago) Permalink

that is one sick sick track and the bass strobe at the end is all-time

macropuente (map), Friday, 5 October 2018 01:45 (two months ago) Permalink

was jamming to four of seven in the car today, it's not their most radical song, basically a techno banger, but damn it's good.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 October 2018 01:46 (two months ago) Permalink

yeah if I'm honest I voted north spiral, it's a three course meal

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 5 October 2018 01:52 (two months ago) Permalink

voted bqbqbq, would probably vote differently next week. yes I called it off-putting on the other thread, my words were taken out of context.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Friday, 5 October 2018 01:54 (two months ago) Permalink

four of seven has a more straightforward beat but i feel like its progression isn't 'banger' at all, it's like constantly slipping sideways instead of building up to anything, then it just dissolves. the minor key synth lead with the weird bell sounds behind it are a few things at once imo, frantic, anxious, bombed out, somehow really sad. idk it's worked its way into my psyche wrt everything going on lately. there's a bit at 6:55 where it settles on this delicate, passing little moment that takes my breath away every time.

macropuente (map), Friday, 5 October 2018 02:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Autechre's genius - in fullest flower on these records - is making music which delights and fascinates at every scale. The flutter or scrape of individual notes and beats, weird involuted melodies, stumbling and intricate 8-bar rhythms, shifts in structure which take ten minutes, 20, an hour to unfold. It just holds my attention.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 5 October 2018 03:00 (two months ago) Permalink

I'm excited about polling these because it's really gonna force me to hunker down and try to reckon with this music. There's so much of it, and it tends to wash right over me. Getting to know it for real is daunting, but I'm up for the challenge.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 October 2018 05:35 (two months ago) Permalink

I really think we should do a ballot poll of the whole bunch.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Friday, 5 October 2018 08:09 (two months ago) Permalink

"gonk steady one" vs "four of seven" for me. Need a bit to decide.

If the last two minutes or so of "north spiral" was its own isolated track, it would be a contender too

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:06 (two months ago) Permalink

Sessions 1 and 4 will be the easiest ones for me to poll. 2 and 3 will be almost impossible, as there are four absolutely perfect tracks on each.

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 5 October 2018 11:39 (two months ago) Permalink

I really think we should do a ballot poll of the whole bunch.

^^

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Friday, 5 October 2018 15:22 (two months ago) Permalink

ah yes a definitive ranking of 30-something songs

i think this is fine

princess of hell (BradNelson), Friday, 5 October 2018 15:31 (two months ago) Permalink

I think we'll get there eventually with a full poll, but I need to take it in more bite sized chunks for now.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 5 October 2018 15:36 (two months ago) Permalink

Gotta go with gonk steady one but but carefree counter dronal is underrated.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 5 October 2018 17:51 (two months ago) Permalink

13 ctrl
four of seven
north spiral
gonk steady one
carefree counter dronal
32a_reflected
bqbqbq
debris_funk
t1a1

macropuente (map), Friday, 5 October 2018 19:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Gotta go with gonk steady one but but carefree counter dronal is underrated.

― change display name (Jordan), Friday, October 5, 2018 5:51 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 5 October 2018 21:26 (two months ago) Permalink

i really am obsessed with this release. one great thing about it is you can play the whole thing over an eight-hour workday. i love these polls because it makes me listen to tracks that hadn't grabbed me. i think this volume might be my favorite. bqbqbq is really astonishing and t1a1 has risen a lot in my estimation. carefree counter dronal isn't underrated by me, it's like endless trumpets playing a tribute to the rising sun.

macropuente (map), Sunday, 7 October 2018 06:06 (two months ago) Permalink

I've not properly poked around under the hood of this one yet (I splashed out on the vinyl of NTS 2 at the weekend). So far I'm quite enjoying the prettiness / craziness of l3 ctrl

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 8 October 2018 09:42 (two months ago) Permalink

t1a1 - makes me think of a slow, lumbering robot walking through corridors, opening automatic doors, a la Georges Schwizgebel's Rapture of Frankenstein. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoNkmQ1e93Q It is indeed a strange way to kick off the project - almost 19 minutes of downtrodden, sloggy 2-step with minimal melodic elements

bqbqbq - like being stuck inside a telephone exchange. I think this is a nice idea but it kind of outstays its welcome and doesn't do an awful lot

debris funk - does exactly what it says on the tin. the scrape and grind of spacejunk

l3 ctrl - love the crystalline cavernous intro - a brief but welcome piece of light relief after the dirge of the first three tracks. It doesn't hang around long, and gets interrupted by this crazed lazer gun sound. Big chords in this one. It just gets crazier and crazier as it goes along. Something strangely Lovecraftian about this one - like that story about the explorer who goes into a cave and just gets deeper and deeper into this lost underground alien city

carefree counter dronal - minimalist footwork with all the beats taken out. a bit of a meditation on one sound more than anything else

north spiral - we're in classic Autechre mode here. Super-detailed drill'n'bass. Mad as a box of frogs. Lots of variation compared to some of the previous tracks.

gonk steady one - the world's most complicated tin can-opener

four of seven - BANGER! Pretty outro which reminds me of empirial-phase Autechre (Cichli, Garbage, Rae)

32a_reflected - ambientish track. a nice extended mood piece that's apparently a palindrome?

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 8 October 2018 10:02 (two months ago) Permalink

oops didin't mean to post the video in there, just the link

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 8 October 2018 10:02 (two months ago) Permalink

Autechre's imperial phase is right now, xp

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 8 October 2018 11:28 (two months ago) Permalink

well... each album has been an imperial phase. i guess that's the point of Ae: each album seems to top the last in terms of scope.

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 8 October 2018 11:30 (two months ago) Permalink

Great post, dog latin

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 8 October 2018 12:51 (two months ago) Permalink

Haha dog Latin, I've been trying to do the same thing you did there, but haven't gotten so far yet.

My notes on first 3 tracks:

t1a1 - ambient noise gives way to a stroll through a humid swamp. A flatulent giant lumbers through a cloud of midges. The ground shudders under his steps.

bqbqbq - my Nintendo is glitching and it's making me nervous. Maybe I ate too many power-ups. Switched to 2 player mode and now I'm seeing double.

debris_funk - I keep sticking my finger in the socket and getting shocked. My nervous system is a jumble of zaps and jolts. Deep in my lonely basement, I dream of unleashing my electrical energy on the unsuspecting city.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 8 October 2018 13:18 (two months ago) Permalink

^^ hahaha, this is one of the fun things about this band. highly-outlandish subjective flights of fancy whilst trying to describe various blips and bloops

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Monday, 8 October 2018 13:25 (two months ago) Permalink

Very true. I'd say that heavy walking and electric zaps are the two most recurring themes that come to mind when listening to this.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 8 October 2018 15:20 (two months ago) Permalink

Does "13 ctrl" sound like a deeply remixed version of "Bine" to anyone else? (Sorry if that's been mentioned before, I'm listening to this for the first time.)

Deontology Sanders (Leee), Monday, 8 October 2018 23:15 (two months ago) Permalink

lol i love that post moodles

princess of hell (BradNelson), Monday, 8 October 2018 23:17 (two months ago) Permalink

People. People. It's "l3 ctrl" (lowercase L) not "13 ctrl". Why that matters, I've no idea.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 8 October 2018 23:53 (two months ago) Permalink

On a similar note, it is donk steady one

1-800-CALL-ATT (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 00:01 (two months ago) Permalink

Ok now you're just messing with us

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 00:09 (two months ago) Permalink

casual donk

j., Tuesday, 9 October 2018 00:41 (two months ago) Permalink

every time i listen to bqbqbq i remember what someone typed in the chatroom when it was playing live: "sean's doing the bleeps and rob's doing the bloops".

i'm trying to choose between l3 ctrl and gonk steady one. first is more epic, second is more kitchen sink crazy.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 08:35 (two months ago) Permalink

I feel like there's no way for me to properly assess what the best track is before the poll deadline. I need another year or two I think.

silverfish, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 13:54 (two months ago) Permalink

a la Georges Schwizgebel's Rapture of Frankenstein

Well now I know where the cover of R Plus 7 came from!

octobeard, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:08 (two months ago) Permalink

l3 ctrl ftw btw.

octobeard, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:25 (two months ago) Permalink

bqbqbqb is like quirky late 90s nintendo mario game music. which i love.

l3 ctrl is alien w/ sigourney spinning out of control and breaking the fourth wall shouting in my face me going holy hell: p neat.

gonk steady one is sooo laidback it's everything i'd want from autechre. 4/4 beat outerspace. i do not know how they do it.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:34 (two months ago) Permalink

These 4 sessions have been my life since they arrived. A new favorite on any given day.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:35 (two months ago) Permalink

a la Georges Schwizgebel's Rapture of Frankenstein

Well now I know where the cover of R Plus 7 came from!


Ditto, thanks for sharing this!

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 9 October 2018 22:52 (two months ago) Permalink

These 4 sessions have been my life since they arrived. A new favorite on any given day.

― lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, October 9, 2018 6:35 PM (forty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

+1

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 23:24 (two months ago) Permalink

gonk steady one is sooo laidback

laid back? there's about 100 things happening every second!

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 08:01 (two months ago) Permalink

going for l3 ctrl

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 10:41 (two months ago) Permalink

xp I know! And yet it still has got such a groove. It's a blessing.

lbi's life of limitless european glamour (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 10 October 2018 10:50 (two months ago) Permalink

This really hits a stride in the 2nd half, getting into series of deep grooves before dissolving into bliss.

Here are my thoughts on the next few songs.

l3 ctrl - I drift off to a gentle slumber in a crystal cave, only to be violently awakened by a  swarm of angry wasps. I run down mirrored passages to escape their stings, hopelessly lost among the infinite reflections. The painful venom swells the flesh, and brings on hallucinations that flatten and negate my consciousness.

carefree counter dronal - the butterfly garden is filled with a wash of fluttering color. Step through and feel the pattering wind disturbances on your cheeks as thousand of jeweled wings flit together.

north spiral - power skiing down city streets, navigating the urban slalom course. All sorts of vehicles and obstacles crowd around and whiz. I ramp up to the upper city platform, searching for a short cut. As I spiral ever higher to each new level, the other racers grow more distant, just tiny dots now, zipping along the cluttered grid far below.

gone steady one - the damn TV is on the fritz again. I slap my hand on it, and images flicker in and out, just barely coalescing for a moment before dissolving into liquid static. Somewhere within the scattered pixels a hint of meaning lights up. New languages unfurl, revealing themselves in the cathode cool, organizing subconscious thought, splitting the self from itself, producing a multitude of new personalities. I now take my orders from the disruptive light.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 06:43 (one month ago) Permalink

well-reasoned post, supported by data - i concur

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 18:08 (one month ago) Permalink

From a voting perspective, I'm still trying to decide, but I think it's probably down to either north spiral or four of seven.

Writing these little stories while i listen to this has actually been pretty helpful in making the tracks easier to digest and recall.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 16 October 2018 20:25 (one month ago) Permalink

it's the only way i can process a lot of their music, especially these days when the track titles are so numerous and gnomic. Even on the 'classic' albums, I know Under BOAC is the one that's like being trapped in an enormous spring-loaded contraption; Pir is the sound of a musical toilet flush/car doors slamming underwater etc..

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 08:21 (one month ago) Permalink

I haven't been able to absorb all of this really but I think T1a1 is an awesome opener and a fitting mission statement for the project so I voted for that.

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:35 (one month ago) Permalink

to stick up for my choice more seriously, bqbqbq's dryness and clarity are arresting and unique. after the lumbering monster of a mission statement of t1a1 it feels like you're suddenly in a bright maze of start-stop-silence phrases. you're trapped, drawn in and easy prey for debris_funk.

Uhura Mazda (lukas), Wednesday, 17 October 2018 18:49 (one month ago) Permalink

yeah that's otm. whoever described T1a1 as a "lumbering robot waking up" or something way upthread (karl?) was otm. it's 10 minutes of "here we go >:)"

flappy bird, Wednesday, 17 October 2018 19:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Thursday, 18 October 2018 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Friday, 19 October 2018 00:01 (one month ago) Permalink

Lol, I didn't manage to vote in my own poll. Probably would give one more to four of seven.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 19 October 2018 04:25 (one month ago) Permalink

I think "l3 ctrl" is overrated here and "bqbqbq" is underrated, but otherwise, good poll.

On to Vol 2! I have four or five tracks on Vol. 2 I could easily vote for. I think it'll be the toughest one for me to rank. Fortunately, this will give me an excuse to listen to this again.

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 19 October 2018 11:50 (one month ago) Permalink

weird that carefree counter dronal got 0 votes here but is somehow the most listened to song from the NTS sessions on both spotify and last.fm. (probably it just showed up on some popular spotify playlist, I guess)

silverfish, Friday, 19 October 2018 12:57 (one month ago) Permalink

> l3 ctrl - love the crystalline cavernous intro - a brief but welcome piece of light relief after the dirge of the first three tracks. It doesn't hang around long, and gets interrupted by this crazed lazer gun sound. Big chords in this one. It just gets crazier and crazier as it goes along. Something strangely Lovecraftian about this one - like that story about the explorer who goes into a cave and just gets deeper and deeper into this lost underground alien city

in the various writeups of l3 ctl why does nobody mention the table tennis that's obviously going on towards the end?

koogs, Friday, 19 October 2018 13:21 (one month ago) Permalink

> carefree counter dronal 0

mystery, yes. i guess this is too radio friendly for the heads

koogs, Friday, 19 October 2018 13:31 (one month ago) Permalink

weird that carefree counter dronal got 0 votes here but is somehow the most listened to song from the NTS sessions on both spotify and last.fm. (probably it just showed up on some popular spotify playlist, I guess)

It's the shortest track. ILM chose the longest one. (With my assistance. The DOOM sound pushing its way through the airlock door the machines keep trying to keep shut during the first half is my favorite hook on this session.)

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 19 October 2018 13:49 (one month ago) Permalink

I imagine a lot of people who weren't previously familiar with Ae who wanted to check it out logically went with the shortest track to sample. Attention spans and all.

Paul Ponzi, Friday, 19 October 2018 13:51 (one month ago) Permalink

carefree counter dronal is ok, i'd rate it above t1a1 and bbqbbq but it's like an interlude that goes on for 5 minutes. four of seven would be my radio friendly pick!

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Friday, 19 October 2018 14:19 (one month ago) Permalink

13 minutes though. it's like punk never happened.

koogs, Friday, 19 October 2018 15:40 (one month ago) Permalink

carefree is a bit boring to be honest

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Friday, 19 October 2018 17:45 (one month ago) Permalink

champing at the bit for poll 2 here.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Monday, 22 October 2018 12:46 (one month ago) Permalink

Been a bit under the weather, so I haven't gotten to it. I plan to do one, but if someone else does it first, that would be fine.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 October 2018 13:29 (one month ago) Permalink

ok, get well soon!

Autechre - NTS Session 2 POLL

oops, put it on ile. mods requested.

Toss another shrimpl air on the bbqbbq (ledge), Monday, 22 October 2018 14:24 (one month ago) Permalink

Thanks!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 October 2018 14:26 (one month ago) Permalink

t1a1 is really doing it for me now. I'm hearing it differently, like a magic eye picture. it sounds like so quite a bouncy hip hop track as opposed to the lumbering beast it was before... and also I'm sure there are some cat meowing sounds in there too

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Sunday, 28 October 2018 16:17 (one month ago) Permalink


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