Enough With The Cutesy Titles, People Are Dead: US Politics January 2021 pt 2

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Totino's Fortnite Training Room (DJP), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link

hey everybody what's happening?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link

People On Both Sides

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link

DJP, I'm feeling canceled.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link

so is Trump!

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link

good morning y'all

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link

Wait, what?

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

RIP Trump, good mourning.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

schrodingers thread

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

great revive

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

already anticipating january pt. 3

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:09 (three years ago) link

weekly in 21

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link

Hoping that it ain't gonna be a standing thing throughout the year. Would be nice if public figures ceased to be quitie so attention seeking.
Would be nice to go through a period where there wasn't constant news or whatver passes for it. People believing the fake stuff leading to bad real stuff.

Would be so nice to not always be edging closer to the next great calamity.
Are things going o become peaceful any time soon?

Stevolende, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link

I'd like to get back to complaining about local politics

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link

i'm afraid the internet has shrunk entire nations to "local"

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

It's either Trump (here) or covid (everywhere).

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link

Trump also everywhere, alas.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

meanwhile, the president of the united states stands impeached so that means there's a comic about it

https://www.insider.com/trump-impeachment-graphic-feature-comic-2020-2/fb%20ref=alskdhd385ke-hi-sic-39501=url

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

Looking forward to the 20th so that we can have 100 posts a month on these threads

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link

I'm willing to do my bit and not post on here at all

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

I mean except that one

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

and that one

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

trump more like dump

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I'm stepping away from these threads to for a bit, I think. I really hit a wall yesterday wrt feeling despair and hopelessness about a lot of things, so probably not the best for me to be glooming things up.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

2scoops went from 1term to 2peach. on the seventh day we can rest. good work all around everyone

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link

Shouldve been called "least promising sequel of 2020" tbh

Ole Blueyes Solskjaer (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link

Looking forward to the 20th so that we can have 100 posts a month on these threads


They’ll just go and start bumping all the IS DOELDN TURMP BAED Y/N threads instead, you know that.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link

idk im sure Biden will do enough stupid shit to talk about

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

Next thread should def be titled 'Trump Withdrawal Syndrome'.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link

we'll still get regular updates on how further isolated he is becoming, I'm sure.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link

why, we can barely hear him from all the way over there

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

idk im sure Biden will do enough stupid shit to talk about

I don't think I'm gonna have a whole lot of time for ILX's leftier-than-thou stridency caucus after the 20th, honestly.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link

Shouldn’t you have more time

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

too busy with brunch babey

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

Man i sure miss brunch

Ole Blueyes Solskjaer (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

Let us not speak of such things.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

Mr. Hawley denounced Pelagius for teaching that human beings have the freedom to choose how they live their lives and that grace comes to those who do good things, as opposed to those who believe the right doctrines.

apologies if this has been shared already but this^ on Hawley and Christian nationalism

https://nyti.ms/3sb5dHv

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

I am currently reading about the early church and I would never have thought that any of the nitpicky internecine squabbles from that era would actually have much of an impact on the thinking of Christians in the goddamn 21st Century.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

Was watching Bunuel's "The Milky Way" recently so I hear ya.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

meanwhile, the president of the united states stands impeached so that means there's a comic about it

https://www.insider.com/trump-impeachment-graphic-feature-comic-2020-2/fb%20ref=alskdhd385ke-hi-sic-39501=url

― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, January 14, 2021 10:29 AM (fifty-seven minutes ago)

Thanks for this. Super dry but interesting to read a recap of all long-forgotten stuff

Nhex, Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

Looking forward to the 20th so that we can have 100 posts a month on these threads

― xyzzzz__

i expect something much lower volume than trump, but higher than obama years. there's a lot of awful shit going on, everywhere, much of it confusing, that's worth discussion. what i expect to go away is the neverending onslaught of daily "covfefe" kind of shit

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

Posted this on the previous thread but ILX.usa was still asleep - Biden impeachment articles to be submitted the day after he's inaugurated (in an attempt to further unite the country, I suppose?) :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-trump-impeachment-marjorie-taylor-greene-b1787055.html

StanM, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

the attempt by one or two individuals to introduce articles of impeachment for nonsense shit isn't new or novel. Obama was actually the first President since Carter who didn't have any articles of impeachment referred against him to House Judiciary Committee.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link

i will impeach them all citizens impeachment

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

if/when Republicans get the House back, sure there's a chance they'll do a retaliation dance, but until then I ain't paying no mind

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

xpost

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

moving to the country, gonna eat a lot of impeachment

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

Impeach them all, no mercy shown
Heaven knows it's got to be this time

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

Impeach the world, don't ask me for shit

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

Posted this on the previous thread but ILX.usa was still asleep - Biden impeachment articles to be submitted the day after he's inaugurated (in an attempt to further unite the country, I suppose?) :

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/biden-trump-impeachment-marjorie-taylor-greene-b1787055.html

there's a couple new bonkers names that non-US ilxors may soon come to know:

boebart
marjorie taylor green

they're both fucking bonkers, Qanon people who got elected, and they will likely be trying to get in the news as much as possible (a la trump) until they are evicted from their positions in congress by one method or another. then they're going to newsmax

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

lol fuck these people

these fucking PEOPLE https://t.co/aXYUyOXcRt pic.twitter.com/R9NcFf3yOv

— taber טבור (@taber) January 14, 2021

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link

jfc

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

incredible

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

Wtf are they eating that they need a toilet fortress

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

Fresh babbies.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

When you are in a position such that you require 'round-the-clock protectors, it's probably best to go out of your way to erode the goodwill of your would-be protectors.

Oh, you got shot? Sorry, I had to take a shit. Whoopsy!

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

Tbf, when your dad is Donald Trump you're probably going to be pretty cautious about who you let use your toilets.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

Touché

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

On Wednesday, 31 members of Congress sent a letter to the acting House Sergeant of Arms, acting Senate Sergeant of Arms and Acting Chief of the US Capitol Police asking them to investigate the issue of tours further.
Democratic Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon, one of the co-signers of the letter, confirmed to CNN that she saw groups of tours of people in MAGA apparel one or two days before the attack.
"I had seen what appeared to be tour groups of folks dressed in MAGA attire, in the halls, in the tunnels," Scanlon told CNN.
"I don't know exactly what day it was. It was just surprising to see that happen because since Covid the building's been shut down. There aren't supposed to be any tours. So I kind of assumed it must be a new member who didn't know the rules or something. But, I mean, I can verify that it happened. There were people who were roaming around in the halls, apparently under the guidance of congressional staff."
Scanlon told CNN she saw a group of 6 to 8 people.
"Many of the Members who signed this letter, including those of us who have served in the military and are trained to recognize suspicious activity, as well as various members of our staff, witnessed an extremely high number of outside groups in the complex on Tuesday, January 5," the letter states.
It says the tours were "unusual" and "concerning" and were reported to the Sergeant at Arms on January 5. The letter says the groups "could only have gained access to the Capitol Complex from a Member of Congress or a member of their staff."

Also: more about insider help: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/13/politics/capitol-insurrection-insider-help/index.html

dow, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

Golden toilets are not for Commoners, and never will be.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

impressive display of scraping prowess

https://t.co/4QcGlttRxz

— crash override (@donk_enby) January 13, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

thank u based donk_enby

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

'White House advisor Peter Navarro leaves the West Wing of the White House with a photograph of U.S. President Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping, in Washington, U.S., January 13, 2021.'

📷 by @erinscottphoto pic.twitter.com/0KtzMgvrCF

— Michael B. Kelley (@MichaelBKelley) January 14, 2021

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

Parler's cardinal security sin is known as an insecure direct object reference, says Kenneth White, codirector of the Open Crypto Audit Project, who looked at the code of the download tool @donk_enby posted online. An IDOR occurs when a hacker can simply guess the pattern an application uses to refer to its stored data. In this case, the posts on Parler were simply listed in chronological order: Increase a value in a Parler post url by one, and you'd get the next post that appeared on the site. Parler also doesn't require authentication to view public posts and doesn't use any sort of "rate limiting" that would cut off anyone accessing too many posts too quickly. Together with the IDOR issue, that meant that any hacker could write a simple script to reach out to Parler's web server and enumerate and download every message, photo, and video in the order they were posted.

https://t.co/qgGy7f3kVh

— crash override (@donk_enby) January 13, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

Xxpost They'll be stealing all the furniture, silverware, etc.. anything that's not bolted down.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

Increase a value in a Parler post url by one, and you'd get the next post that appeared on the site.

this is how i found the hidden ilx boards lol

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

crut hacking thought leader

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

does that indicate hacker probably not the first to hack the site?
Guess that makes little difference if nobody else tried to do anything with info found.

Stevolende, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

i mean they werent really hacked as far as having their security compromised, their public data was just downloaded, but they were hacked in the sense of someone used their systems in a way they didnt design them for

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

if someone had done this one weird trick before id think we would have heard about it, tho who knows there could be someone out there sitting on a big pile of parler posts

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

the worst thing parler did was post images with all the metadata still on there, which is an actual security issue in that their users were effectively sharing their locations without intending to, the rest of it is like yeah you let yr site get scraped too easily but it was all public and prob couldve been scraped anyway with a lil more effort and time

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

Fascistnating

dow, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

lmao jim jordan lost 7% of his followers in the twitter purge

GOP officials lost thousands of followers after Twitter banned QAnon accounts. @angelareplica figured out which ones lost the most: https://t.co/PE1gnywvVL

— Keenan (@jktrotter) January 14, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link

SevenPercentSolution.jpg
#TwoThreads

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

the worst thing parler did was post images with all the metadata still on there, which is an actual security issue in that their users were effectively sharing their locations without intending to, the rest of it is like yeah you let yr site get scraped too easily but it was all public and prob couldve been scraped anyway with a lil more effort and time


This is how you know the site users were mostly boomers, nobody who grew up on 4chan would upload an image without checking the exif data.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

I saw some MAGA lady on FB talking about how with Parler's soon-to-be-glorious-victory over Amazon in court, now is a great time to buy shares of Parler. (Of course you can't actually do that becz it's not a public company, but we can dream.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link

Ronan Farrow with an Oath Keeper interview. It doesn't go well for said dude:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/a-former-marine-stormed-the-capitol-as-part-of-a-far-right-militia

In an eighty-minute interview, during which Crowl acknowledged that he was drinking, he confirmed to me that he had entered the Capitol, saying that he had gone to Washington to “do security” for “V.I.P.s” whom he declined to name. He said that his intentions had been peaceful and that he had never been violent, claiming “we protected the fucking Capitol Hill police.” He declined to substantiate the claim.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link

ok so he stormed the Capitol because he had t pee

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link

*to pee

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link

He repeatedly denied that he harbored racist views or had made racist comments, but he said that he believed in phrenology, the discredited pseudoscience that infers intellectual ability from skull shape, and told me that he had responded to The New Yorker’s request for comment after examining pictures of my head.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link

To be fair, the Farrows have have shapely skulls.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link

xpost "Anyone ever tell you that you ssortta ressemble Frank SSsinatra?"

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link

With DC and 50 statehouses to choose from, it's hard to imagine that Maganauts won't participate in further violent insurrectionist activity before Biden has even been sworn in. Trump started signalling his intentions to hang onto power whatever the election results at least a month before Nov. 3.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

I don't discount the likelihood of more violence, but I do think — hope — that these demonstrations are going to be mostly notable for being small and pathetic looking. I'm sure they can pull together a few hundred people here and there, but I don't think it's going to be some militia army emerging from deep cover.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link

In 2016 he said he'd "totally accept election results…if I win". Lol oh that wacky Donnie what a card.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

I do think they overplayed their hand with the Capitol storming... kinda like the "blood & soil" march in Virginia. Many will probably lay low for awhile, afraid to lose their jobs, etc.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

Still barred from twitter, Trump releases a statement on Afghanistan that’s more like a tweet. pic.twitter.com/6w6C60OmhJ

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 14, 2021

love always finds a way

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link

"For weeks, Trump has been claiming the race is rigged in Hillary Clinton's favor, in part because of deceased individuals and immigrants in the country illegally casting votes and election officials throughout the country colluding against Trump."

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link

At least then he woulda had no federal resources to abuse

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

He thinks in tweet length now, clearly.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

never thought in anything else. It's why he's such a natural at it.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link

All new White House press releases to include the words "haters" and "beautiful"

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link

_He repeatedly denied that he harbored racist views or had made racist comments, but he said that he believed in phrenology, the discredited pseudoscience that infers intellectual ability from skull shape, and told me that he had responded to The New Yorker’s request for comment after examining pictures of my head. _


LOOOOL

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

One time a friend made fun of my foreign language jones and said "James Redd knows lots of languages but it only comes out in Trump-like tweets."

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

He thinks in tweet length now, clearly.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, January 14, 2021 2:15 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is the worst thing about being a twitter user.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

Caek lemme explain why you're wrong…
THREAD (1/73)

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

Huh.

Late to this but ... Fall Out Boy is playing the Biden inaugural concert? pic.twitter.com/q4avuVZfOy

— Nick Corasaniti (@NYTnickc) January 14, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

"You see, Mr. President, when I said it was an arms race..."

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOi1E6dUV30

peace, man, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

Carol King AND James Taylor?? Boomers rejoice

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

This Capital Coup affidavit doc is incredible and worth a read:

https://extremism.gwu.edu/sites/g/files/zaxdzs2191/f/Kevin%20Lyons%20Affidavit%20in%20Support%20of%20Criminal%20Complaint.pdf

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

Start at point 11, maybe.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

Still barred from twitter, Trump releases a statement on Afghanistan that’s more like a tweet.

smh i suggested this as soon as he was banned no one listens

he should just send out a series of tweet length press releases

— br◎seph (@on3ness) January 9, 2021

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link

Hello Nice FBI Lady

peace, man, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

With DC and 50 statehouses to choose from, it's hard to imagine that Maganauts won't participate in further violent insurrectionist activity before Biden has even been sworn in. Trump started signalling his intentions to hang onto power whatever the election results at least a month before Nov. 3.

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, January 14, 2021 1:01 PM (forty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I don't discount the likelihood of more violence, but I do think — hope — that these demonstrations are going to be mostly notable for being small and pathetic looking. I'm sure they can pull together a few hundred people here and there, but I don't think it's going to be some militia army emerging from deep cover.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra),

i hope tipsy's right here. i did see that one of the proud boy leaders is urging everyone to stay home and telling them that it's a "honeypot" designed to entrap them all. whatever, but please stay the fuck home proud boys

Karl Malone, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

It's a small side effect in comparison to all the grotesqueries and preening from GOP types in particular, but there is something telling that a bunch of people who thought they could get away with it -- whatever 'it' was -- found themselves humiliated on the broadest of scales, and clearly had no sense as to how or why they would be.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

Start at point 11, maybe.

loool

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 14 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

there is something telling

It tells me they have lived in a bubble of shared delusions large enough to look like the center of political gravity to them. This was not helped by the fact that the president and nearly all Republican office holders in the nation encouraged their delusions even when they knew the president's claims were complete fabrications.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

Fall Out Boy is playing the Biden inaugural concert

And Biden is going down swinging

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

Developments in the ideological–state apparatus. From Popbitch:

"Now he's had his second dose of the vaccine in the UK, Rupert Murdoch is preparing to make his way to NYC to oversee the difficult post-Trump positioning for Fox News. Should be fun."

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) January 14, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

I hope they used bleach.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

that affidavit is amazing

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

Hey Nice FBI Lady should be the title of this thread.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

otm

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

murdoch's post-vaccine visit to new york to determine the post-trump future of fox news is some shakespearean shit

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

A nasty Covid case would be the most benign thing that Murdoch has brought to this country

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

I think getting the vaccine does not mean you can’t still spread it. Should work out fine!

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

totally. also doesn’t mean you can’t get it! what was it something like 4-5%?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

calling bullshit on rupert flying to NYC to fix things. isn't it an open secret in london media that rupert murdoch has advanced dementia and is not involved in the business any more? there's tons of news attributed to him but he hasn't made public remarks on camera for like 3 years.

cc suzy i guess?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

It's likely bullshit, he read it on Popbitch

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

isn't it an open secret in london media that rupert murdoch has advanced dementia and is not involved in the business any more?

Not so much succession as suspicion.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

More stuff (appears to be Abe Lincoln bust) leaving the West Wing this afternoon. pic.twitter.com/4fjkVPmiMS

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 14, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

i just spent like 30 minutes trying to find the most recent footage of him online and now i'm a rupert truther. i couldn't find anything since may 2017.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 January 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

Apparently all that stuff was loaners from museums, etc., and that happens with every administration.

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link

probably so but you absolutely know Trump is taking some souvenirs back to FL

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link

His turds?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

When is the leather bound printed edition of his tweets coming out? (asked as a joke but while typing... I could actually see it happening and even make him money)

StanM, Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:22 (three years ago) link

sorry if this got posted. *flbttthhh*

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/01/trump-toilet-scandal-jared-ivanka-barred-secret-service-using-bathroom.html

map, Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:24 (three years ago) link

XP The Taschen Coffee Table Book Of Illustrated Trump Tweets

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

I haven’t got any KRM gossip.

scampopo (suzy), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

"Twitter from the Shitter" Vol. 1, from the Franklin Mint

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:27 (three years ago) link

Yeah folks it's been done

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91tGEYnzMFL.jpg

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

feel free to circulate my gossip suzy. "a guy on a belle and sebastian message board told me he couldn't find any youtubes of rupert murdoch after 2017".

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 January 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

Sad! xpost

StanM, Thursday, 14 January 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

Will wait for the two volume Library of America edition to place alongside Henry James and Susan Sontag

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 January 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link

Bought it.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 January 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

I was gifted that book of poems fyi

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 January 2021 23:54 (three years ago) link

my favorite part is when he records himself alone in a room breaking a window, saying he broke it, and then saying no one got it on camera pic.twitter.com/izSLbEeYF8

— Josh Billinson (@jbillinson) January 14, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link

Yeah that's the guy I complained about on the previous thread. He was on Anderson Cooper 360 as a self-proclaimed "left-wing activist" but this guy did nothing but encourage more violence and destruction. Looks like he has a history of opportunism and creating situations that he could profit out of him.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

him = them.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 15 January 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

yeah, hope that guy gets serious time tbh

k3vin k., Friday, 15 January 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link

Anybody watch Biden's big "we're firing up the money printer, folks" speech?

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 15 January 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link

No, but if that's his plan, it's a good one.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link

I guess this should comas as no surprise, this guy has been aching for civil war

http://a.msn.com/01/en-us/BB1cLc3H?ocid=se

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

Does look like a human grocery store tbh.

Specifically the dumpster

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 02:39 (three years ago) link

ain't that fresh?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 02:40 (three years ago) link

Very dumb to do $1400 checks and explain that $2000 included the $600 you got with Trump's name on it.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Friday, 15 January 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link

In the universe of things that can be called "very dumb", I'm not sure that is an outstanding example.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 04:45 (three years ago) link

No doubt Republicans will beat them over the head with whines of "$1400 isn't $2000!" but if Biden can get another stimulus check (or more than one) passed later in 2020 it won't be a very effective tactic. And the COVID relief package Biden's proposing looks pretty damn ambitious. I admit I'm curious to know how they're planning to deal with McConnell torpedoing 100% of everything they attempt with the filibuster though.

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 15 January 2021 04:59 (three years ago) link

President-Elect Biden served in he Senate for over 35 years. So he knows the plan he outlined tonight can’t pass “quickly” & will delay the 2k for hard hit Americans.

Let’s get the extra money to people first.

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) January 15, 2021

this fuckin guy irritates me so god damn much. THINGS TAKE FOREVER BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

frogbs, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:00 (three years ago) link

Very dumb to do $1400 checks and explain that $2000 included the $600 you got with Trump's name on it.

― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:36 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

...the democrats

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:01 (three years ago) link

Americans are pretty dumb but also money obsessed. I think they can figure out 600 + 1400 = 2000

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 15 January 2021 05:02 (three years ago) link

that ol razzle dazzle baby

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:03 (three years ago) link

Plus, the $2000 amount still has the magical Trump Mark of Approval, which makes it harder for Republicans to knock it down. It's still the same political equation that applied just before the GA runoffs, except now the Republicans are staring at having lost in large part due to stalling the full $2000. It might not be entirely "very dumb" to repeat the play that won you the Senate.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 05:08 (three years ago) link

what

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:09 (three years ago) link

you don't understand what I wrote?

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 05:12 (three years ago) link

thats correct

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:13 (three years ago) link

Rubio is such a tiny turd. As much as I hate Trump, he was really good at taking out other hateful people.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2021 05:18 (three years ago) link

hes still there tho

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:20 (three years ago) link

I admit I'm curious to know how they're planning to deal with McConnell torpedoing 100% of everything they attempt with the filibuster though.

Sanders leads the budget committee now, and has signaled he would do it though reconciliation, requiring only 50 votes. Same as republican tax bill of 2017, as well as Obamacare

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:21 (three years ago) link

the left wing of the party completely willed these checks into existence, there was absolutely no interest in doing them from the party leadership, will be interesting to see how the left reacts to this centrist arithmetic, especially considering the $2000 was proposed under trump, its not particularly the ideal amount for continued survival, biden et al seem happy to pick up a couple senate seats off the idea move on

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:29 (three years ago) link

Biden will seek a deal with Republicans on another round of Covid-19 relief after taking office, rather than attempting to ram a package through without their support https://t.co/hY69XKk7CJ

— Bloomberg (@business) January 13, 2021

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XbA9pXBfXUo/maxresdefault.jpg

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:44 (three years ago) link

Worth noting that Biden is significantly undershooting existing, on-the-table Dem proposals https://t.co/X6dUSfTcp7

— Zach Carter (@zachdcarter) January 15, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 05:55 (three years ago) link

Ah Karl thanks for the explanation!

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Friday, 15 January 2021 05:57 (three years ago) link

oh, no problem - it might take a while to get to that point, too. according to washpost stuff, biden is trying to start "bipartisan" but is prepared to go with reconciliation if/when republicans refuse to help at all

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 06:04 (three years ago) link

I'm feeling too burnt out right now to get in my "ugh dems suck" hits yet, but the time will come, the time will come

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 15 January 2021 06:08 (three years ago) link

Are you really a Democrat if you don’t negotiate against yourself?

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Friday, 15 January 2021 06:13 (three years ago) link

the $2000 amount still has the magical Trump Mark of Approval

Kamala Harris was stumping for $2000 monthly mid-year, therefore it's a magical number with Republican-repelling properties

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 15 January 2021 06:18 (three years ago) link

every Republican senator cancelled their subscriptions to 2000AD and the Megazine

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 15 January 2021 06:19 (three years ago) link

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who will chair the Budget Committee, has said he is working to put together a massive stimulus bill that could pass under special budget rules with a simple majority vote in the Senate, instead of the 60-vote margin normally required.

Biden, however, wants to try for a bipartisan majority on his first bill — although his team appears to have conducted little outreach to congressional Republicans on the plan. Democratic aides say that if Republicans do not appear willing to cooperate, they can shift gears quickly and move to “budget reconciliation,” the procedure that would allow them to pass legislation without GOP votes. That’s how Republicans passed their big tax-cut bill after Trump took office, and how President Barack Obama passed the Affordable Care Act.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/01/14/biden-stimulus-covid-relief/

Kamala Harris was stumping for $2000 monthly mid-year, therefore it's a magical number with Republican-repelling properties

also, magical Kamala-repelling properties.

“We will finish the job of getting a total of $2,000 in cash relief to people who need it the most.

The $600 already appropriated is simply not enough.”
—Your next president, @JoeBiden

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) January 15, 2021

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 15 January 2021 11:11 (three years ago) link

although his team appears to have conducted little outreach to congressional Republicans on the plan.

To be fair, congressional Republicans have been busy for a few months denying his imminent presidency (among other not-governing things).

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2021 13:40 (three years ago) link

the place to start would have been retroactive checks, then get to the vaunted $2k

or perhaps even better—match dollar for dollar the trillion dollar goodie bags doled out over the last year to financial sector and defense contractors and fossil fuels etc

^actually that’s the ticket: replace “paygo” with Matching Stim Checks to actual people for every dime Delta and Raytheon get ffs

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 13:58 (three years ago) link

oopy

new Pew just dropped https://t.co/HUYQAzWzrc pic.twitter.com/TMUhlEqNg1

— Will Jordan (@williamjordann) January 15, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

!!!

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link

At the risk of stating the obvious not because he incited violence or tried to commit a coup, it's because he didn't succeed that he's finally losing some of the base. And they'll come roaring back in 2024 given the chance.

Dan I., Friday, 15 January 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

there's a missing ", it's" in there

Dan I., Friday, 15 January 2021 15:20 (three years ago) link

idk not everything just stays the same, i mean donald trump didnt even exist five years ago

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link

Sobering thought: the dip in approval probably includes a nonzero number of people who think he didn't fight hard enough to #stopthesteal. Or because he summoned

People for whom even Trump wasn't Trumpy enough

or what Dan I said xp

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

WaPo says The rioting criminal mob came within 60~ seconds of seeing Mike Pence on Jan. 6. And they were just 90 feet away from a small office where Pence was hiding, before a cop steered them away.

kinda wonder how things would be different if they'd gotten hold of him and/or the secret service just started killing people right and left

mookieproof, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

29% (Pew) is a pretty step fall off that is surely at least partly attributable to a violent coup attempt

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

...summoned the MAGA patriots and then told them not to kill anybody and to go home

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

trump lucked out that it didnt get more violent than it was

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

yet

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

well at least if there are further incidents they probably wont be directly precipitated by him, tho with ol donnie you never know

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link

Xxxxxpost Crosstabs make it clear that it's more complicated than that. More than just his base voted for him.

For instance, 20% of Trump voters considered his post-election behavior poor, 34% said it was only "fair" in January, meaning most of his voters surveyed disapproved at least somewhat of his conduct, which was a definite decline from the same poll in December. Considering the fight he was putting up, at the time, I don't think that change can merely be attributed to "he failed".

By the same token, though, 64% of Republican voters think he really won the election. So what this poll proves is that some of his voters are jumping ship, but that as usual, Republicans tolerate corruption amongst their own.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link

yeah some of these accounts are making it sound like we really were close to actual lawmakers & congresspeople getting whacked

frogbs, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link

Remember when Al Franken resigned from the Senate because of a dumb photo? Ah, "good times".

Nhex, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

Xxpost There's 20 pages of crosstabs which break it down to an extent.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

al franken resigned because of multiple credible reports of groping fwiw

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

Remember when Al Franken resigned from the Senate because of a dumb photo? Ah, "good times".

― Nhex,

He resigned because he groped a woman and more allegations awaited.

yeah some of these accounts are making it sound like we really were close to actual lawmakers & congresspeople getting whacked

― frogbs, Friday, January 15, 2021 10:28 AM bookmarkflaglink

I was legitimately afraid of this happening as I watched it unfold in real time. I'm glad I didn't know how close it was as things unfolded as I may have had a full-on meltdown.

i have a feeling in-person harassment of sitting Democratic Congresspeople (and Republicans who "didn't do enough") is going to be heightened for a long time. esp since unlike the President, they walk around pretty out in the open.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

Remember when Al Franken resigned from the Senate because of a dumb photo? Ah, "good times".

― Nhex,

He resigned because he groped a woman and more allegations awaited.

― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn),

replace Al with Katie Hill and you have a better point

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link

just because Republicans don't hold their own accountable, like, ever, doesn't mean we should do the same for our own folks (it does mean though that maybe we shouldn't eat them for minor incidents). I think the Franken resignation was the right call.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

otm, in fact its essential that we hold our own accountable if we want to make the argument that people should be held accountable

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link

If we're the party that supports women, POC, believes in expanding social services, etc, then, yeah, sorry, we gotta stick to our principles. To believe in foundations means to be perpetually on the defensive. Them's the breaks.

ugh. i didn't know about those other ones tbh

Nhex, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

what would we have done re: franken had minnesota had a republican governor tho

mookieproof, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link

luckily not a decision anyone had to make

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

let's not review that case anymore

just checked a. whitney brown's twitter and was relieved

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

Fun CNN article about his continued inability to acknowledge a non-Trump centric reality as the 21st nears.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

does it say "increasingly isolated"? I hope not, it's a little early in the morning to have a shot

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

Inside the building, Trump has been weathering a second impeachment and growing isolation from his onetime allies in sullen desolation.

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

Asymptotically isolated

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

Trumpo’s Paradox

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story misstated the year of the presidential election that Trump is contesting. It is the 2020 presidential election.

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

Increasingly insulated.

pomenitul, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

lol god damn it xp

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

insanely isolated

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link

time for some game theory

Pew Poll: 62% of Dems say Biden should work with GOP “even if it means disappointing some of his voters.” About the same percent of Rs says GOP members should “stand up” to Biden, “even if it means it’s harder to address critical problems facing the country.”

— Liz Goodwin (@lizcgoodwin) January 15, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

Dems are marks

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

lol god damn it xp

― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, January 15, 2021 9:10 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

at least it's friday

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

gotta apologize guys - i was a respondent on that poll but i swear i thought they said "work over"

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this story misstated that Trump is 'isolated.' In fact, Trump is 'increasingly isolated'.

Increase Mather to thread!

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

I don't know how journalists can continue to use the phrase 'increasingly isolated' in good conscience or with a straight face.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link

haven't u heard of 'foreplay'

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

ha interesting

Holy shit: “When Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar announced this week that the federal government would begin releasing coronavirus vaccine doses held in reserve for second shots, no such reserve existed”https://t.co/pIBS0tMpcF

— Alex Leo (@AlexMLeo) January 15, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

Luke Mogelson in the New Yorker goes long on the Capitol riot and some of the Stop the Steal rallies that led up to it. Lots of detailed on-the-scene reporting. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/25/among-the-insurrectionists

jaymc, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

dear god

Re: that Pew Pew Pew poll, I've got to assume Biden's people see the same numbers and will advise caution when considering cooperation.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

I couldn't make it through that NYer article. So much unfocused, STUPID rage.

DJI, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

The new Post poll has some awful findings among Republicans:

51% say GOP leaders didn't go far enough in nullifying election

56% say Trump bears zero blame for the insurrection

66% say he has acted responsibly

Behold the GOP's authoritarian core:https://t.co/GUjwDOc7g3

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 15, 2021



Welp

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link

sounds about right

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

any of us actually surprised by that? I mean, I just finished that New Yorker article about the insurrection and.....hoo boy. there is a lot of brain rot.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

any of us actually surprised by that? I mean, I just finished that New Yorker article about the insurrection and.....hoo boy. there is a lot of brain rot.


^yeah honestly I would have hazarded higher percentages in those categories, and it’s too early for alcohol induced doom-posting for me

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

if you are wondering whether house dem leadership likes it when katie porter goes after bank executives, here's your answer https://t.co/AMAN6pCjQX

— Zach Carter (@zachdcarter) January 15, 2021

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

I dunno, those numbers make me fairly optimistic. Those are way lower percentages than I would've expected, and I can't help but feel that they'll drop further the longer Trump is out of the daily spotlight. Which isn't to say that the party as a whole isn't garbage or that that particular subset of people aren't scary as fuck.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link

re Porter — absolutely enraging. Yes please keep sidelining the 15% of your caucus that isn’t trash

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

yeah that's sickening

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

Current road closures in Washington D.C. pic.twitter.com/YMXp0j5yzO

— Anthony Quintano (@AnthonyQuintano) January 15, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

is there an Uber for air travel besides Blade? lol

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

Those are way lower percentages than I would've expected, and I can't help but feel that they'll drop further the longer Trump is out of the daily spotlight.

This is key. Check back in six months.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

This is extraordinarily bad news. Dunn has done PR for...
- Harvey Weinstein re: sexual assault expose (yes, really.)
- Keystone XL pipeline
- Hedge funds post-2008
- Charter school lobby
- NYC landlords/real estate groups to lobby against rent protectionshttps://t.co/VpLBfNKseA

— Max Moran (@MaxMoranHi) January 15, 2021

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

Can the new two-party system be centrist dems and progressive dems now? Can we just make that happen already?

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

xp wtf

map, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

anita b. dunn with that bullshit

map, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

so much energy explaining why bad is actually good, instead of being good and not bad

map, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

anita b. dunn with that bullshit


Genuine lol

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

1/3 of Rs think Trump acted irresponsibly. Count me as another who's surprised it's that high.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

lol map

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link

does No Fly List extend to private jets

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link

a real double threat

Jenna Ryan, a Frisco, Texas real estate broker and life coach

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link

if anything the arrests have been good for learning about shithole towns you didn't know existed

map, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

wait who is this Dunn person, I can't keep up

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

a real double threat

Jenna Ryan, a Frisco, Texas real estate broker and life coach


Clearly not someone any citizen should be forced to share a plane with, irrespective of her Jan. 6th activities

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link

“You can never cancel Jenna Ryan,” she wrote. However, by Monday, she said her publisher had canceled her self help book that was due out next month. - lol.

Such incredible self-absorption and lack of self-awareness in that article.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

Those are way lower percentages than I would've expected, and I can't help but feel that they'll drop further the longer Trump is out of the daily spotlight.
--
This is key. Check back in six months.

not to be a negative nancy, but...do you think rising authoritarians/fascists in the GOP are going to idly stand by as trump is out of the spotlight and all of the rage they spent decades fomenting slowly dissipates over several months? if i was a rising authoritarian/fascist, i would recognize that as a time to step up and be the thing that everyone has been worried about since 2016: a competent US fascist

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

Maybe by self-awareness, I mean humility and compassion.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

I don't know how journalists can continue to use the phrase 'increasingly isolated' in good conscience or with a straight face.

Same reason they are still - STILL - going to folksy diners in rural areas to find out what makes Trump supporters tick.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

Trump is increasingly isolated from folksy folks in rural diners like this one.

Those are way lower percentages than I would've expected, and I can't help but feel that they'll drop further the longer Trump is out of the daily spotlight.
--
This is key. Check back in six months.

not to be a negative nancy, but...do you think rising authoritarians/fascists in the GOP are going to idly stand by as trump is out of the spotlight and all of the rage they spent decades fomenting slowly dissipates over several months? if i was a rising authoritarian/fascist, i would recognize that as a time to step up and be the thing that everyone has been worried about since 2016: a competent US fascist

― Karl Malone, Friday, January 15, 2021 5:45 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

feel like it's time for a jesus-y fascist. hawley is working on it.

map, Friday, 15 January 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

Fortunately they're hard to manufacture.

The wannabe Trumps are severely deficient in charisma. At least so far.

O and that thing about Betsy Ross flag sucks. That's not why I have one.

I have one because I like to remember when all the states were East Coast states, and all the voters were highly educated coastal elites.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

xpost they could always run a megachurch lunatic, though that would require him taking a massive pay cut.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

probably overstated but I saw something about MO voters not exactly loving Hawley atm.

I’m sure it’ll subside tho. ‘They’re all criminals and need to be booted... except mine.’

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

what this country needs is an ayatollah

xp

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

The wannabe Trumps are severely deficient in charisma. At least so far.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, January 15, 2021 11:49 AM (thirty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

^ This. I'm sure there are plenty of people vying for the job of Competent Fascist POTUS but not many that could actually go the distance.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

gotta get a teeeveee show first

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link


probably overstated but I saw something about MO voters not exactly loving Hawley atm

democrats and people with a conscience in MO fucking hate Hawley. so that's around 45% in MO, tops. the majority are dumbass conservatives, and any dissatisfaction they have with Hawley will only lessen over time as we continue through whatever gigantic world-ending Biden controversy they're going to cook up this year

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

can not argue w that.

especially if he makes a credible run in 2024

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

O and that thing about Betsy Ross flag sucks. That's not why I have one.

I have one because I like to remember when all the states were East Coast states, and all the voters were highly educated coastal elites.

― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, January 15, 2021 12:49 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

What's this about the Betsy Ross flag?

peace, man, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

Apparently the original flag design has become a fetish for mouth-breather trump fans

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

this is a false dichotomy, but i'd take $15 federal minimum wage over an extra $600 payment fwiw.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

re the washington post poll of republican trump approvals

wouldn't the fact that it's the washington post asking tend to skew the responses?

aka 'oh hi washington post - fuck you i still love trump'

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

Dominion continuing to not mess around, I see. (Though this site is one ugly mess.)

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/01/statement.html

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

god that is such a cringy name

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

Pelosi open to prosecuting members of the House for collaborating with the mob:

Speaker Pelosi calls for the criminal prosecution of any member of Congress who aided and abetted the attack on the Capitol. pic.twitter.com/ICKGhuNKVU

— Sarah Reese Jones (@PoliticusSarah) January 15, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

i feel like that is a total no brainer? should be happening already.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link

i think you'd want really thorough and ironclad evidence and investigation to move ahead on that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link

i feel like that is a total no brainer? should be happening already.

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall),

but would George Mitchell and Tom Foley have done so

guess he's saving the whip for his boys, not his caucus

NEWS: Mitch McConnell is telling GOP senators their decision on a Trump impeachment trial conviction is a 'vote of conscience' https://t.co/kHiaaWASyX

— Tom LoBianco (@tomlobianco) January 15, 2021

His boys, you say.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

wonder if Trump's plummeting numbers has more to do with the insurrection or insane conservatives who are pissed that he "conceded" the election

frogbs, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link

it's a mix, but I'll take either one

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

NEW: Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin says "we're looking at more significant felony charges" being brought against Capitol related suspects in the near term.

They expect to have 300+ criminal cases by the end of the day.

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) January 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

Some more detail on that:

#CapitolRiot NEW: Nearly 100 criminal cases filed, open subject investigations expected to go beyond 300 within days. US Attorney Michael Sherwin tells reporters no direct evidence “kill or capture teams” but there are “bread crumbs” that suggest coordination among some groups

— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) January 15, 2021

in + outside the Capitol + understanding their motive, level of advance planning could take weeks or months. NOTE: Some who took part at the riot have self-surrendered, others volunteering information on activities.  Still face prosecution. @CBSNews

— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) January 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

That NOTE bit is of course about what you'd figure -- people realizing 'oh shit' and wanting to get a break.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

good stuff from tish james

NY AG @TishJames has sued the NYPD for unconstitutional conduct during last year’s protests following the killing of #GeorgeFloyd. https://t.co/6Pl60cruOV pic.twitter.com/XMcy0n2snA

— Sherrilyn Ifill (@Sifill_LDF) January 14, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

These "1776 Patriots" will lose their revolutionary fervor after wearing jail pajamas and eating jail food for a few weeks/months.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

could go either way

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link

O and that thing about Betsy Ross flag sucks. That's not why I have one.
I have one because I like to remember when all the states were East Coast states, and all the voters were highly educated coastal elites.

― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, January 15, 2021 12:49 PM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

What's this about the Betsy Ross flag?

― peace, man, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:04 (one hour ago) link

Apparently the original flag design has become a fetish for mouth-breather trump fans

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 18:07 (one hour ago) link

This is a bummer. I saw one prominently displayed on the wall of the office of the S@n D13go superior court presiding judge in a webinar earlier this week. She didn't sound Trumpish.

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Friday, 15 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

https://defector.com/after-the-sacred-landslide/

― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings)

this is EXCELLENT, thank you

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

also, lol Boebert continues her Unforgettable First Impressions tour across the Capitol

Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-CO), a gun-rights hardliner who has vowed to carry her firearm around the Capitol, on Thursday backtracked on her accusation that Rep. Patrick Maloney (D-NY) had tied her to the deadly insurrection at the Capitol by President Donald Trump’s supporters.

“A thousand apologies @RepSeanMaloney,” Boebert tweeted. “I’m glad you clarified you were not making any remarks about me whatsoever.”

A few hours earlier, the freshman Republican had posted a letter to Maloney accusing him of making “extremely offensive, shameful and dangerous” comments during an MSNBC interview that the Republican claimed had “implied” that she conspired with the pro-Trump seditionists to attack the Capitol.

Maloney pointed out via Twitter that at no point during that interview did he even mention her.

“Um, I’ve never said your name in public, @RepBoebert. Never. Not once. (If you’re going to be a gun nut, you probably shouldn’t go off half cocked.),” the Democrat fired back.

He offered to post the transcript of the interview but warned her that it “might be like ‘a fact,'” so the transcript “might not help you.”

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

if david roth isnt already writing a trump book then whats going on

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

LOL @ “bread crumbs.” Very Q.

DJI, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

soo theyre saying i did an insurrection but other people didnt okaaay i guess??

TIM YOUNG:

"Sooo... was violently burning down police stations, murdering people, overtaking 6+ city blocks, and declaring an "autonomous zone" in an American city not an insurrection?"

"I'm confused as to how the definition shifts."

— dotJenna - Jenna Ryan Realty (@dotjenna) January 12, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:53 (three years ago) link

One man arrested on Thursday in Alabama, Joshua Matthew Black, for instance, spoke about spilling blood on the Senate floor in the name of Jesus -- while he himself was bleeding from the cheek, according to his criminal charging documents and images of him from that day and afterward.

Speaking to the FBI later, he told them he had accomplished his goal.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

lmao

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

you gotta respect their game, i mean regardless if youre the... secretary of defense or whatever

... pic.twitter.com/ArUek6qyzq

— Dave Brown (@dave_brown24) January 15, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

Americans have a particular kind of crazy that no people will rival.

yes. USA has produced good music, film and decent tv, but beyond that we really shouldn’t be allowed to do much of anything

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link

the silicon chip has been pretty handy

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

tbh I wouldn’t want to go back to a time before GPS but the rest? I’d manage.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

has increasingly isolated trump been banned from ivanka and jared’s washrooms yet

scanner darkly, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

'Deranged Quixotes' next band name

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

Procedural clarification: under House Dem rules, a member is allowed to serve on two non-exclusive committees. Mine are Oversight and Natural Resources. One can ask for a waiver for a third committee. I asked. Others in same situ got waivers. I did not. I play by the rules

— Katie Porter (@katieporteroc) January 15, 2021

map, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

has increasingly isolated trump been banned from ivanka and jared’s washrooms yet

increasingly constipated

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/15/mccaskill-staffers-hawley-election-459661

― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Friday, January 15, 2021 8:31 PM (forty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

with their track record i'm sure they'll be effective............
.........
..
at spending money with no results

map, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

President Trump on Thursday moved to freeze $27.4 billion worth of government programs in the last week of his presidency using a budget maneuver called rescission... proposed extreme cuts to domestic programs... The request also included cuts from the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities, the Peace Corps and the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars among a slew of others...

Scorch the earth and salt the fields on your way out

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link

This fuckin’ guy

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

yes. USA has produced good music, film and decent tv, but beyond that we really shouldn’t be allowed to do much of anything

― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, January 15, 2021 3:08 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the silicon chip has been pretty handy

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, January 15, 2021 3:12 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

“When it gets down to it — talking trade balances here — once we've brain-drained all our technology into other countries, once things have evened out, they're making cars in Bolivia and microwave ovens in Tadzhikistan and selling them here — once our edge in natural resources has been made irrelevant by giant Hong Kong ships and dirigibles that can ship North Dakota all the way to New Zealand for a nickel — once the Invisible Hand has taken away all those historical inequities and smeared them out into a broad global layer of what a Pakistani brickmaker would consider to be prosperity — y'know what? There's only four things we do better than anyone else:
music
movies
microcode (software)
high-speed pizza delivery”

Not even movies anymore.

Jimi Buffett (PBKR), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

America's a butt

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

the stanford prison experiment as a country

scanner darkly, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

For a long time, I just assumed Boebert was a derpified misspelling of Brightbart.

Sammy Agar-Agar (Leee), Friday, 15 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

I thought it was a misspelling of Boehner.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

thanks i had managed to forget about that guy

map, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link

He's a weed guru now i think

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

gave up his chardonnay, or just added weed to the mix?

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

if david roth isnt already writing a trump book then whats going on

he's said he doesn't want to (and hopes the market for thinking about Trump will be entirely exhausted soon after he's out of office)

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

only five more days, what could go wrong

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

even if he wasn't the best writer on Trump, the fact that Roth was a Trump gadfly before Trump entered politics should qualify him above any other pundit though

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

Biden's COVID briefing was forceful, especially with regards to the reps not wearing masks during the attack last week: "Grow up."

clemenza, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

Hawley at 1% is giving me life https://t.co/54euo8l9ax

— Michael Nordine (@slowbeard) January 15, 2021

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

cruz and don jr neck and neck baby

lag∞n, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

Well this is a read.

Never has a DoD transcript made the rounds amongst mil journos -- for all the wrong reasons. For starters, current acting SECDEF "cannot wait to leave this job." https://t.co/YFCfyxjqBv

— Nancy Youssef, نانسي يوسف (@nancyayoussef) January 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

xps Fully expect Boeboe in the next 2024 poll.

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

Beetbort redux

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

Yeah, she's kinda got that grizzly-mom vibe, youbetcha

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

even if he wasn't the best writer on Trump, the fact that Roth was a Trump gadfly before Trump entered politics should qualify him above any other pundit though


^yes. really really good Know Your Enemy ep with him from a few weeks ago. Worth your time if you enjoy Roth’s stuff. That is if your Trump fatigue hasn’t reached critical levels, which hey, fair. Also good because for a NYC-based leftist podcast it is remarkably earnest and snark free.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

WaPo photographer got a close-up of the My Pillow guy's notes.

Hard to read. Seems to push for using "martial law if necessary."

References Sidney Powell and, I think, an attorney at the NSA ("Fort Mead" sic). Advocates for Trump to "move Kash Patel to acting CIA" pic.twitter.com/xU0tz3YDo7

— Robert Maguire (@RobertMaguire_) January 15, 2021

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Friday, 15 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

Meantime

The Manhattan District Attorney’s office has expanded its criminal investigation into the Trump Organization’s finances to include the family’s compound in Westchester County, lawyers and people familiar with the investigation tell @KaraScannell.

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

Reuters: NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION SAYS IT HAS FILED PETITION IN COURT FOR BANKRUPTCY

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 15, 2021

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link

wut

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link

(probably doing it to evade the pending litigation against them, and reintegrating in Texas)

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:10 (three years ago) link

really really good Know Your Enemy ep with him from a few weeks ago.

If this is a file named “Roth wave 1.mp3” with no metadata, then I’ve heard it & yes

Him talking to Jeff Weiss on the LAnd pod a couple months back was also fun

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link

(probably doing it to evade the pending litigation against them, and reintegrating in Texas)

Think Guitar Center did some strategic bankruptcy filing before restructuring, at least that’s what a friend who worked there told me.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link

yeah, and NRA insinuated as such that they don't want to be incorporated in NY anymore because of the corruption of the state (lolz)

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:18 (three years ago) link

The USA also produces some of the finest literature, but since no one cares about that, I'll keep quiet.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:22 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErzUxZnXIBQueH7.png

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

he means "law-abiding White Americans"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:27 (three years ago) link

they must've realized the militia wasn't as well formed as they claimed it would be

scanner darkly, Friday, 15 January 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

"we are TRYING to avoid a lawsuit from New York"

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Friday, 15 January 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

Didn't that dickhead demand they build him a McMansion in TX?

You know you're corrupt when Oliver North is the whistleblower

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 15 January 2021 22:51 (three years ago) link

Big surprise: CNN is saying Trump is planning a farewell ceremony (I think they said simultaneous to Biden's inauguration, but I didn't quite catch that) with 21-gun salute, etc.

clemenza, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

21 guns should do the trick, I reckon

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link

just resting my head on this new My Pillow, cracking open a cold Coors and chillin’ to Worn Copy

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

cannot wait for the mypillow guy to be subpoenaed to give testimony under oath at senate impeachment hearings in the morning, then ram through full socialism using reconciliation in the afternoon.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:25 (three years ago) link

"full socialism" as defined by [insert name of loud right wing ignoramus here]

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:29 (three years ago) link

fuck the nra, goodbye you irredeemable murder apologists

that secretary of defense interview is unbelievable

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link

MyPillow guy 2 be disappointed when he learn martial law requires Congressional approval

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link

so are there going to be like 150 pardons announced on Wednesday morning

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link

Trump 42%
Pence 16%
Trump Jr. 6%
Cruz 6%
Romney 6%
Haley 5%
Rubio 2%
Tim Scott 2%
Noem 2%
Cotton 1%
Hawley 1%
Pompeo 1%
Hogan 0%
Rick Scott 0%

I confess I enjoy the thought of Trump just totally cock-blocking all those other potential candidates until the last possible minute. Betcha none of them dares to even create an exploratory committee lest they incur MAGAnaut wrath.

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link

intrigued by the 6% who prefer don junior to senior

mookieproof, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:44 (three years ago) link

poor hulk hogan

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:44 (three years ago) link

who is Noem? somehow, scanning the other names on the list, i have a feeling they're going to be a major league asshole

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link

oh, the SD Gov anti-masker, cool

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link

2% of people are like "Gov Kristi Noem took a stand against masks - and I believe she should be president of the United States because of it"

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:46 (three years ago) link

then they walk into a doorway at a three-quarter angle and get stuck, bumping into it over and over until someone rotates them a bit and they slide right through, on to the next tv show

Karl Malone, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link

The thing is, one of those turds will be on the ballot, and when they are, they will get tens of millions of votes.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:55 (three years ago) link

if a turd smears on the ballot, is that a hanging Chad

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 15 January 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link

January 2013 polling for the 2016 GOP primary:

Marco Rubio 21%
Paul Ryan 16%
Mike Huckabee 15%
Jeb Bush 14%
Chris Christie 14%
Rand Paul 5%
Bobby Jindal 3%
Susana Martinez 2%
Rick Perry 2%
Someone else/Undecided 7%

jaymc, Friday, 15 January 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link

exactly

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:00 (three years ago) link

2024 wildcards

MyPillow Guy
MAGA shaman
Tiger King
Vince McMahon
Eyepatch guy
Steve Bannon
Barron Trump
John Wick
Martin Shkreli

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link

lol Bobby Jindal

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link

I don't Susana Martinez, but I'm betting BIG TIME on her for 2024 because i believe in america, i believe in redemption stories, i believe in people i've never heard of, i believe in the underdog, and i believe that surely she must be the only person on any of these lists who isn't a gigantic asshole

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link

Bill Belicheck blew his shot by refusing a medal from Trump

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link

Tom Brady will be retired by 2024, though

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link

Seen on the intarwebz: this has all been a long Trump play to have pictures of an inauguration with a smaller crowd than his

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link

and then he's going to tweet pict-

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

fax

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:31 (three years ago) link

would love to see Trump at a FedEx Office

"now what is the phone number for Twitter so I can send this there?"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link

There was a film clip being circulated a couple of years ago of prominent trump family and cabinet members heads superimposed over the heads of people being rounded up by the CIA. From the Wire or something.
Is that still a total fantasy or is a real version booked for late next week?

Stevolende, Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link

Dorks who sign their tweets like an email (but good)

Yes, we can and we must use budget reconciliation to increase the minimum wage to at least $15 an hour with a simple majority vote in the Senate, just like Republicans did to pass massive tax breaks to the 1%.

- Incoming Majority Staff Director. Senate Budget Committee

— Warren Gunnels (@GunnelsWarren) January 16, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

CIA hates Trump. It's total fantasy.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

Not Photoshop. (I swear I'd never heard of this Jimmy Dore fucker until December 2020 at the absolute earliest.)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er0V9UqWMAMaC1f.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:17 (three years ago) link

why does cucker tarlson look like a fucking plastic action figure

map, Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link

Because that's what his viewers want him to look like.

pomenitul, Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link

tucker's 'confused because what you're saying is too horrific to believe' face is iconic

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link

for years I used to think those memes were just using the same still shot of him as part of the meme until I realized they were unique shots each time and his face just...does that.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

its bizarre

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 January 2021 02:51 (three years ago) link

Yeah, he's totally Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.
https://omigods.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/I-Was-Listening-to-the-Magic-Voices.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:15 (three years ago) link

did he get rid of the bowtie simply cos Jon Stewart made fun of him for wearing one?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

probably not 'simply', but mostly

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:29 (three years ago) link

what a perfectly despicable, entitled, condescending pile of shit this man is

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:46 (three years ago) link

I forget about him now and then for a couple weeks but then every time I see him face it bullets straight to the top of most punchable

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:48 (three years ago) link

HIS HIS HIS face

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:48 (three years ago) link

i feel like there's been SO MUCH of this kind of news lately:

Breaking NYT: Prosecutors in Georgia appear increasingly likely to open a criminal investigation of Trump over his attempts to overturn the results of the state's 2020 election, an inquiry into offenses that would be beyond his federal pardon power. https://t.co/SdB215f0hr

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 16, 2021

and my questions are:

is there a rough estimate of how many separate criminal investigations are open, formal accusations, proceedings, etc? like, 10 different ones? 50? where are we? holy shit

and is there a chance of even ONE thing sticking?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 January 2021 03:58 (three years ago) link

I think yes! It is impossible to keep up with them though

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:01 (three years ago) link

Lawrence O’Donnell just speculated on national television that “the future will prevail”

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link

how it goes, generally

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link

man idk why all these states keep harassing our innocent President

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link

nobody with any meaningful power is gonna be on this guy's side in 5 days

frogbs, Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:05 (three years ago) link

their jealous because he a fucking handsome genius

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:05 (three years ago) link

his face is supposed to look like a capybara's ass, it's part of the charm

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link

I have a very good friend who looks a little like a cross between Trump and Cruz. It’s tough.

tobo73, Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:28 (three years ago) link

Good evening!

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:41 (three years ago) link

I read that in your Bela Lugosi voice

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:48 (three years ago) link

me (as my senator votes to legalize stealing money directly out of my pocket): Did you hear trump fired Steve Blarbby today? He’s done. Blarbby is the one would rein him in.

— jeremy levick (@jeremylevick) January 15, 2021

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:48 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that’ll help.

White nationalist Nick Fuentes just told his followers on a video stream tonight to destroy their phones if they entered the Capitol building on January 6th.

— Zachary Petrizzo (@ZTPetrizzo) January 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 05:06 (three years ago) link

After encouraging his followers to destroy their phones, Fuentes backtracked. “I'm gonna say don't do that, for my legal sake,” he stated. pic.twitter.com/azjfvMFq81

— Zachary Petrizzo (@ZTPetrizzo) January 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 05:08 (three years ago) link

Suing Ned for whiplash. Giuliani already agreed to represent me.

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 16 January 2021 05:25 (three years ago) link

wow thank god he took it back he might've gotten in some real trouble

frogbs, Saturday, 16 January 2021 05:39 (three years ago) link

it’s cause he’s smart

partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Saturday, 16 January 2021 07:47 (three years ago) link

also helpfully explaing Trump’s latest statements for what they are NOT

partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Saturday, 16 January 2021 07:49 (three years ago) link

Trump tried to defund the police yesterday

also to defund covid vaccination in the developing world, and the hurricane detecting folks who don't sharpie their maps, the NEAA and the research dept of the EPA

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:27 (three years ago) link

THis was the video I was talking about earlier but couldn't find, wasn't sure what to use in search engine so that may be it.
would think if CIA hated trump it would make this scenario more rather than less likely. I also see that I substituted teh wrong legal enforcement body since its the FBI here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7Uy0Uznw4E

Stevolende, Saturday, 16 January 2021 10:49 (three years ago) link

I read that in your Bela Lugosi voice

― John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 04:48 (nine hours ago) link

True story: His son lives in my town, and drives a giant Mercedes S-class with the license plate "BELA JR" He's an attorney who made his name and fortune pursuing his family's rights to profit off Bela's likeness.

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Saturday, 16 January 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 January 2021 14:52 (three years ago) link

I can't help feeling that staying as Béla Blaskó would have given him an even better acting name.

a degree in bullshit from glasters uni (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 January 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link

Béla Blaskó Stats for Season

jaymc, Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

good morning!

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

4 more days!

BrianB, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

until my miss me yet trump billboard is unveiled

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

Well, this ... Is ... Something. I'm so done with the cutesy yarn spinning/re-assessments:

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

omf GOD i can barely get through this.

who is this fucking asshole? i've never even heard of him! he's the youngest congressman, madison cawthorn, and he lives his life at a distance, like everything that is happening is barely tangentially related to his own actions

Cawthorn — now armed with a handgun, he said — took shelter in the office of a colleague. “It was a great bonding experience,” he said. “But it literally felt like a scene from The Lord of the Rings. You kind of see the orcs — Helm’s Deep, or taking over Minas Tirith, whatever — it just looks like the enemy is on something that they’re not supposed to be on … And the worst part was they’re all waving these American flags and these MAGA flags, and you want to say, ‘You don’t represent me at all. That’s not my movement. You’re not part of my party one bit if you’re taking this kind of extreme action.’ One can say, ‘You can only push somebody so much, and they watched the Black Lives Matter people do this all summer,’ blah blah blah — but at the end of the day, there’s no excuse for it.”

And yet for Cawthorn it was also, on a personal level, a missed opportunity: “I genuinely believe, had we realized what was going on and sent myself, or maybe Lauren Boebert” — he was referring to the freshman representative from Colorado infamous for her gun fetish — “some of these people who are just very recognizable to, kind of, the MAGA crowd; in the wheelchair, I probably would’ve been better, because it’s very easily recognizable. I might’ve just gone to the front steps.” And there, facing the rioters, he said, “I think we could’ve stopped them.”

go back to undergrad, madison

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

ugh, the next two paragraphs reveal that even mark meadows wasn't impressed

n extremely online Evangelical ex-linebacker son of a financial adviser, Cawthorn so embodied the right-wing ethos of the Trump era — “I don’t want to raise a family in a country run by left-wing socialists,” etc. — that it didn’t even matter to voters when Trump himself endorsed someone else in his primary. That was done on the advice of the White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, who held the seat from 2013 to 2020. Meadows knew Cawthorn personally: A few years before, he had been his intern and then a low-level staffer.

A Meadows aide at the time described Cawthorn as “a typical overachiever College Republican type” with a good sense of branding. (He dropped out of Patrick Henry College after one semester.) As an intern, Cawthorn was tasked with assembling each day’s “clips,” the collection of news items relating to the boss. “What I took away from it is it’s almost a scattergraph of where different news outlets and media organizations are,” Cawthorn told me, referring to partisanship. He said the Associated Press is “very, very fair,” and the Washington Examiner “does a good job.” Or actually, he wasn’t sure. “I think it’s them,” he said. “One of the Washingtons does a good job. You realize Politico leans this way; the Drudge Report leans this way.”

jeeeeeeeezus

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

He lowered his mask to drink from a can of peach-flavored Red Bull.

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

Red Bull: Lower that mask, and slam it!

DJI, Saturday, 16 January 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link

Baked Alaska getting cooked:

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-donald-trump-capitol-siege-alaska-crime-6666c735165a19a6ee019e412235bd8d

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

Red Bull gives you Kings!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

Wouldn't be surprising if this was legit:

This woman in the pink hat calling out the directions on the megaphone is 100% without a doubt @laurenboebert @RepBoebert 's mother. The faces line up perfectly as seen in this video i just made comparing their faces with just shifting opacity levels and screen record. Retweet. pic.twitter.com/YcelLk8nYQ

— 🌊❤Battle Born Bitch❤🌊 (@NVTaraStrong) January 16, 2021

Fetchboy, Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

holy shit—that's the woman who was barking instructions through megaphone into that office, telling them where to go?

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

a sitting congressperson's mother did recon on the capitol building the day before

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

I wonder if Lauren Boebert and her mother is under FBI surveillance?

Is the woman in the pink hat calling out the directions at The Capitol on the megaphone lauren boebert mother???pic.twitter.com/xfks6t855E

— 🦊 (@F0XRIDER2020) January 16, 2021

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

yoooo

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

maybe jumping the gun here but

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

Their accents are very different

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link

ah

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link

background on Boebert - wow, what a real winner:

https://coloradosun.com/2020/09/14/lauren-boebert-congress-guns-trump/

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

Banana fana Boebert

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

Soon, he said, a security official “came up and said, ‘Hey, just wanna give you guys all a reminder: Everything’s under control, but if anything bad should happen, there’s bulletproof backing on all these chairs.’ And at that point, the Democratic side lost their minds. They just started yelling, ‘This is because of you!’ ”

The one yelling that was Minnesota's own Dean Phillips.

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link

My mom’s congressman - and in some miracle, she voted for him.

scampopo (suzy), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

I might’ve just gone to the front steps.” And there, facing the rioters, he said, “I think we could’ve stopped them.”

...and a little child shall lead them.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

Baked Alaska’s plan to livestream his crimes is not going great https://t.co/zv8xsdkNwA

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) January 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link

Cawthorn — now armed with a handgun, he said — took shelter in the office of a colleague. “It was a great bonding experience,” he said. “But it literally felt like a scene from The Lord of the Rings

Guessing this is the contemporary usage of 'literally'.

a degree in bullshit from glasters uni (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

there ARE a lot of pointy-eared Congressmen

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

"Their accents are very different" Boebert and her mother or the woman in the pink hat and the mother? Because someone posted a video of her mother speaking in that thread and it sounds exactly like the woman in the megaphone. I suspect Boebert is about to have some serious problems.

akm, Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

Justice Sotomayor, on the Trump administration’s rush to kill. pic.twitter.com/6WTaVPeljP

— Taniel (@Taniel) January 16, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

I have to assume someone is literally getting off on this

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

Will Catholic Biden commute all federal death sentences day 1?

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

couldn't get t to sit in the wrong chair with a sponge on his head at all could they

Stevolende, Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

Because someone posted a video of her mother speaking in that thread and it sounds exactly like the woman in the megaphone.

I think they sound nothing alike. Boebert mom has thick twangy cuhntree accent, megaphone lady has standard American accent, possibly eastern seaboard.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

this is just a summary of stuff that's widely known by but reading articles like this are a real pick me up

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-01-16/trump-s-shambolic-empire-faces-long-odds-for-one-more-comeback

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

I just got the reissued/updated version of Dark Towers, the book on Deutsche Bank that got a good amount of attention/press, but am kinda figuring there'll have to be yet another updated edition here soon enough.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

no expert on business or finance, but if he somehow survives all this then we'll finally know that no consequences exist for the man

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 January 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

One executive in conservative media who’s still bullish on Trump’s prospects for creating a subscription-based video service conceded that recent events may limit possible platforms, advertisers and partners. Still, the executive said that even controversial porn purveyors can find homes online.

Thank you for that, Bloomberg reporter.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

New: US Capitol Police arrested a Virginia man as he attempted to pass through a police checkpoint in downtown Washington Friday with fake inaugural credentials, a loaded handgun & over 500 rounds of ammunition, CNN reporting.

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) January 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

(xposts) Another one in the same vein (you need to go incognito to read it):

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/donald-trump-after-presidency.html

clemenza, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link

_One executive in conservative media who’s still bullish on Trump’s prospects for creating a subscription-based video service conceded that recent events may limit possible platforms, advertisers and partners. Still, the executive said that even controversial porn purveyors can find homes online. _


Thank you for that, Bloomberg reporter.


Trump teaming up with Max Hardcore

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link

looking forward to getting account at peetape.ai this summer

rob, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link

fake inaugural credentials, a loaded handgun & over 500 rounds of ammunition

Self-radicalized ISIS-identifying terrorists are smart enough to choose softer targets. This bozo might just as well have thrown himself directly into a wood-chipper.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link

Love this quote:

“It was absolutely my pleasure to crush a white nationalist insurrection... and we’ll do it as many times as it takes.” pic.twitter.com/bsLt7zL36X

— Ben Taub (@bentaub91) January 16, 2021

pomenitul, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

Moved by that because I am a sucker

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

yeah that's great

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

Along the same lines:

"Thank you, but fuck you for being there.” - D.C. police officer Michael Fanone on his response to the few rioters who helped when others were trying to kill him pic.twitter.com/EHKT7QMGvJ

— Vera Bergengruen (@VeraMBergen) January 15, 2021

pomenitul, Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

Looks like Rep. Boebert’s mom may have been giving directions through a megaphone at the rally (and definitely was in town and was given a tour):

The @FBI and @DCPoliceDept are trying identify the lady directing every move with megaphone 📢!

See the picture⬇️⬇️⬇️ Have info? Call the FBI’s Tipline at 1-800-CALL-FBI (1-800-225-5324) @FBIWFOpic.twitter.com/O6kgp7fLBy

— Skyleigh😷#ConvictTrump DAY 339@🏠 (@Sky_Lee_1) January 16, 2021

... (Eazy), Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

so are there going to be like 150 pardons announced on Wednesday morning


Maybe not— according to Kevin McCarthy he still believes they’re all antifa lol.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 16 January 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link

that was posted above and there seems to be ilx disagreement

(xpost)

akm, Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

oh I didn't even mean rioters...I just mean every one of his criminal associates

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

Glad to see the #bluewave #resist brains trust is ok the case.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link

Those videos of cops above are copaganda at its finest.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link

sometimes there are bad guys

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link

It's excellent that the internet is dissecting every scrap of video minutely and passing on their tips. I wouldn't take that 'Boebert's mom' tweet as anywhere near conclusive. If it could be fitted to a larger pattern of evidence it would have some value; as a standalone it is pretty shaky.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

I really don’t think Trump is going to pardon these people, not out of any conscience at all but because it would not be great for his case at either the Senate or any civil cases that may be brought against him post-presidency.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

Boebert's director of communications has resigned, two weeks into her term. I look forward to her telling Tucker (and his new co-host, Glenn) what she really thinks about the libtards and the cucks and the mud people, without her staff holding her back.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 16 January 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link

boebert

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 16 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link

I wonder if pushing stuff like this through is going to be easier because the distraction of an impeachment trial is going to make it harder to organise the kind of opposition that makes democrats too nervous to implement their incredibly popular policies.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:18 (three years ago) link

Sorry like this

Biden’s planning a legislative package with pathway to citizenship for ~11 million immigrants https://t.co/MzveiY1u0j pic.twitter.com/xXu49q7qKB

— Rachel Cohen (@rmc031) January 16, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:18 (three years ago) link

thats great

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link

In the replies, found the one person who read Matt Yglesias’s book

These people gotta understand China has 1.3 Billion people while the US has 330 million people, if we want to compete with China going forward we are going to need more people. Immigration and expanding the rights to the illegal immigrants is the first step.

— Jaz Tarki ❁ (@JazTarki) January 16, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:24 (three years ago) link

lol xp

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

It’s come to this.

Parler turns on Trump. pic.twitter.com/brWpuhTywf

— Jim Brown (@JimBrownski713) January 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link

In case anyone didn't click through to the thread of interview excerpts with the Secretary of Defense, here's another:

Miller was also asked about his visit to U.S. Northern Command and he said this to say pic.twitter.com/x9c2SvWrrA

— Dave Brown (@dave_brown24) January 15, 2021





Also, Daniel Dale was asked to do a "top ten Trump lies" article, and managed to get it down to 15:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/16/politics/fact-check-dale-top-15-donald-trump-lies/index.html

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

saying he was going to the capitol with the insurrectionists and then going home and watching it on tv shouldve made the list

lag∞n, Saturday, 16 January 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

Bumble, Tinder and others are freezing out rioters with help from law enforcement — and, in some cases, their own photos. Other app users have taken matters into their own hands by striking up conversations with potential rioters and relaying their information to the FBI.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/16/siege-dating-app-bans/

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link

Re that Parler post, back at the start of Trump’s term I thought that would be the most natural way for the GOP to shrug him off once he became a disaster: He was not really a Republican. But it seems too late now for that to really take hold, not least because his base has made clear they are much more Trump people than they are “Republicans.”

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link

Is there a reason we’re not calling Boebert Q-bert by now?

epistantophus, Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link

The whole "omg he lies all the time!" thing is so annoying. Of course he does! He's a psychopath!
Lukewarm take: the kind of people who get into high(ish) ranking social positions - politicians, political journalists etc - didn't generally grow up in the grip of sociopaths, as the majority of people from that type of background spend way too much of their lives just holding their psyches together and don't get the chance to be successful. They all see the likes of Trump for what he is, and aren't surprised by the lying at all. But no-one listens to them, so you get this endless outrage that someone could be that mendacious, and the ones that could be holding him to account fall into the same trap over and over again.

a degree in bullshit from glasters uni (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

I never dealt with a psychopath on intimate terms, but his lying is obviously compulsive, continuous, and consciously designed to deflect any possible consequences for his selfish actions.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link

The weirdest thing with Trump, setting him apart from even most politicians, is how he lies about things that don't matter at all. He'll lie about what he had for breakfast, whether or not he's ever owned a ping-pong table, or who his favourite character was on Happy Days.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link

It's not weird when you see it through the lens of him rewiring reality for as many people as he can, at which point he's controlling them.

a degree in bullshit from glasters uni (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:46 (three years ago) link

“These people deserve the right to seek a partner in one of the few ways we have to socialize during the pandemic, and seek love,” said Liz O’Sullivan, technology director of the Surveillance Technology Oversight Project, a New York-based nonprofit group fighting discriminatory surveillance.

liz o'sullivan should shut the fuck up

k3vin k., Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

I need to seek love imo

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link

S.T.O.P. in the name of love.

nickn, Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:52 (three years ago) link

The whole "omg he lies all the time!" thing is so annoying. Of course he does! He's a psychopath!

Feel like it's reasonable for the Toronto Star and CNN to report that the President's lies are not true. Other outlets not doing so seems to have had the occasional deleterious effect.

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 16 January 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link

Is there a reason we’re not calling Boebert Q-bert by now?

― epistantophus, Saturday, January 16, 2021 6:10 PM (fourteen minutes ago) 

Haha I tried yesterday but gave up after two image link fails

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:11 (three years ago) link

Q-bert is up there with Y'All Qaeda for perfect nickname.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link

The quote that sic posted from acting secdef Miller puts me in mind of the "just four guys in a room jamming" "back to basics" band trope.

Like, we wanted just to go back to basics, two generals in a room talking about killing people. Just like in the old days before Zoom and Teams made everything so sterile and clinical.

Legit enough to quit (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:50 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: @realMikeLindell and @MyPillowUSA are using the promo code “QANON” for discounts on products. @FBI designated QAnon supporters as “conspiracy theory-driven domestic extremists.” Supporters of QAnon were involved in the domestic terrorist attacks on the U.S. Capitol. pic.twitter.com/zx9P37cyLP

— Michael Brodkorb (@mbrodkorb) January 17, 2021

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link

Not sure that merits a BREAKING tag

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 17 January 2021 00:56 (three years ago) link

BROKEN: would work better

epistantophus, Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:04 (three years ago) link

I've had the TV off all day (for a change), so I laughed when I turned it on and CNN's ticker at the bottom had a headline about Trump "demanding" the names of the Republicans who voted for impeachment so he could look into primarying them. It was the definitive laziness of that that made me laugh--like these names were buried deep in some secret vault, and someone would have to spend hours trying to uncover them. Unless he was he banned from using the internet altogether.

clemenza, Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link

Maybe he could get his son Barron to restart the router

Legit enough to quit (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link

Of course he does! He's a psychopath!

I'm not sure he's a full sociopath but almost certainly a pure narcissist.

The Wikipedia entry on NPD kind-of has him nailed. It's practically a checklist of Trumpian personality traits.

"People with NPD exaggerate their skills, accomplishments, and their degree of intimacy with people they consider high-status. Such a sense of personal superiority may cause them to monopolize conversations,[10] or to become impatient and disdainful when other persons talk about themselves.[7] When wounded in the ego, either by a real or a perceived criticism, the narcissist's displays of anger can be disproportionate to the nature of the criticism suffered;[10] but typically, the actions and responses of the NPD person are deliberate and calculated.[7] Despite occasional flare-ups of personal insecurity, the inflated self-concept of the NPD person is primarily stable.

To the extent that people are pathologically narcissistic, the person with NPD can be a self-absorbed control freak who passes blame by psychological projection and is intolerant of contradictory views and opinions; is apathetic towards the emotional, mental, and psychological needs of other people; and is indifferent to the negative effects of their behaviors, whilst insisting that people should see them as an ideal person.[7] To protect their fragile self-concept, narcissists use psychosocial strategies, such as the tendency to devalue and derogate and to insult and blame other people, usually with anger and hostility towards people's responses to the narcissist's anti-social conduct.[11] Because their fragile egos are hypersensitive to perceived criticism or defeat, people with NPD are prone to feelings of shame, humiliation, and worthlessness over minor incidents of daily life and imagined, personal slights,[10] and usually mask such feelings from people, either by way of feigned humility, or by responding with outbursts of rage and defiance, or by seeking revenge.[7][8] The merging of the inflated self-concept and the actual self is evident in the grandiosity component of narcissistic personality disorder; also inherent to that psychological process are the defense mechanisms of idealization and devaluation and of denial.

[...] the psychological inability to tolerate disagreement, contradiction, and criticism, make it difficult for persons with NPD to work cooperatively or to maintain long-term, professional relationships with superiors and colleagues."

Yep.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:16 (three years ago) link

Not seeing the original of that xpost code yet, but

@realMikeLindell
There is still hope!
Listen here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuyjj_aNcD4

dow, Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link

speaking of diagnoses, i remembered this advert the other day (northam is an MD). what a world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDonPK5bJoM

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

My least favorite current Twitter thing is when non-journalists write tweets that start with “BREAKING”

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Er5Y_3_XEAc6j4E.jpg

Pelosi better stop with the sad faces and get on board with the God-killing agenda, that's all I'm saying. I didn't vote for half-hearted God-killing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 17 January 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

bout time the dems stepped up w a bold agenda

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 January 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link

finally, a Democratic plank I can fully support

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, 17 January 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link

Needs more ambition

We're a modest company with modest goals:
1: sell a quality product at a fair price
2: drain the world's oceans so we can find and kill god

— Stev D (@Stev_D) October 21, 2014

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 January 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link

Is that God at the top of the poster? Or just some other evil democrat?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link

Wow u think god is an evil democrat?

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:33 (three years ago) link

update on the SecDef who cannot speak English:

Acting defense secretary Christopher C. Miller ordered the director of the National Security Agency to install on Saturday a former GOP political operative as the NSA’s top lawyer, according to four individuals familiar with the matter.

It is unclear what the NSA will do. The agency and the Pentagon declined to comment.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link

just take a week vacation lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 January 2021 03:51 (three years ago) link

ok, here's the situation room

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Sunday, 17 January 2021 05:02 (three years ago) link

the brazenness of trying to install Devin Nunes' dude as permanent staff.

longest pause between entries in weeks

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 January 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link

Good sign, no?

pomenitul, Sunday, 17 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

everybody was away taking a dump

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 January 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link

longest pause between entries in weeks

― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:42 AM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Good sign, no?

― pomenitul, Sunday, January 17, 2021

a relief

73 hours....

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

SCIENTIFIC and ELECT and FUTURE and PRESIDENT and OPPORTUNITY pic.twitter.com/uFXW6lMXKb

— CSPAN 5 (@CSPANFive) January 17, 2021

https://twitter.com/CSPANFive

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

THANK and DRUGS and AMERICAN pic.twitter.com/YEY48ZJLHO

— CSPAN 5 (@CSPANFive) March 20, 2018

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

Man woman camera

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

the future will prevail

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link

I don't agree with everything Gabriel writes here, but these are the sorts of questions I find pertinent given January 6th:

This is all to say that the question “How should the state correctly detain and punish participants in fascist violence?” is not the right question. The real questions are: how do we demobilize fascists? How do we disaggregate their power blocs when they attempt to use organs of state power to push their political goals? How—as organizers did in NYC on Jan. 10—do we outpace them in street mobilization so as to scare them out of their planned escalations? And, most critically, how do we defuse and transform the conditions that foster the development of fascism in the first place?

https://partisanmag.com/the-capitol-seizure-abolition-and-anti-fascism/?fbclid=IwAR2vf0rVamwayRL9pauP9ZxjF_L1OZSlSzevnoeX9FsSwJNbo3L3UkTd6nc

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

How do we disaggregate their power blocs when they attempt to use organs of state power to push their political goals?

?fbclid=IwAR2vf0rVamwayRL9pauP9ZxjF_L1OZSlSzevnoeX9FsSwJNbo3L3UkTd6nc

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, 17 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

A person with the National Archives and Records Administration carries a large hammer engraved with the word 'Trump,' and more scenes of personnel moving items out of the White House: https://t.co/5QPSUEcJdu 📷 @erinscottphoto pic.twitter.com/ygzqREMuKL

— Reuters Pictures (@reuterspictures) January 16, 2021

koogs, Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

I know this will shock you Jonathan, but Trump would literally talk to us about the My Pillow guy during classified national security meetings. Apropos of nothing. It was weird. (But I do sleep on one of those pillows and they’re not terrible.)

— Miles Taylor (@MilesTaylorUSA) January 17, 2021

jaymc, Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

you know I really should try one of those pillows

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

What happened in nyc on January 10 xpost...?

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

yeah i don't recall this

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link

i’m guessing here, but a bunch of leftist actions were scheduled on the 10th as counterprotests against potential gatherings of the proud boys. the proud boys never assembled (afaict it was bc they’re scared of the cops)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

it’s very inside baseball

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

I want to know more about the Hammer.

Yeah. Is it some kind of Thor thing?

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

the hammer is his penis

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

Mostly curious which doofus butt-kisser thought to have "TRUMP" engraved on a Thor hammer.

Probably Trump.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

i was going to say that trump has no idea who thor is because he doesn't read, but i forgot that it's a major action movie franchise now, so

Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

Maybe he doesn't know Thor at all and just wanted his name on a giant hammer, and his aides kind of looked at each other and made the call for him.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link

bullhorn lady thread

1/ The pink-hatted Capitol rioter known as #BullhornLady, who shouted detailed instruction to others as they invaded the building, is now among the FBI’s Most Wanted, but her identity is still not publicly known... pic.twitter.com/XZCfZMCz26

— J. David McSwane (@davidmcswane) January 17, 2021

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

defintely not ma boebert

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link

i love how boebert comes up a natural suspect because she's fucking bonkers it's actually possible

Karl Malone, Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link

i was going to say that trump has no idea who thor is because he doesn't read, but i forgot that it's a major action movie franchise now, so


No. I think the one thing trump and I have in common is total ignorance of pop culture since about 2008.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link

Cant believe a bunch Twitter accounts that follow Seth Abramson misled us on the identity of bullhorn lady.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 January 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

Cheaper than I expected:

Mr. Kiriakou was separately told that Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani could help him secure a pardon for $2 million.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html

pomenitul, Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

hope they catch Maga Nona and her magic bullhorn

Florida Man vs. California Bill (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 17 January 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link

No. I think the one thing trump and I have in common is total ignorance of pop culture since about 2008.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, January 18, 2021 5:37 AM (one hour ago)

Robert Pattinson should not take back Kristen Stewart. She cheated on him like a dog & will do it again--just watch. He can do much better!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 17, 2012

Lots of response to my Pattinson/Kristen Stewart reunion. She will cheat again--100 certain--am I ever wrong?

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 18, 2012

Everyone knows I am right that Robert Pattinson should dump Kristen Stewart. In a couple of years, he will thank me. Be smart, Robert.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 22, 2012

Miss Universe 2012 Pageant will be airing live on @nbc & @Telemundo december 19th. Open invite stands for Robert Pattinson.

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 25, 2012

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

had a dream last night that FOX was advertising an airing of "Home Alone 2: Uncut" as "the version the fake news doesn't WANT you to see"

frogbs, Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link

sic why the hell are you posting old Trump tweets, which both drive referring traffic to Twitter AND amplifies Trump’s online presence?

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link

People are missing Trump already, it seems

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

I did not post anything that could drive referring traffic to twitter

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

Thank you for those tweets. Love them. Great stuff.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

On a different Twitter note, this thread, by one of the best journalists who has been studying Q regularly for years now, had this thread an hour back. Worth keeping in mind in terms of what's next after the 20th:

Over the last few years, I kept in touch with some QAnon supporters through DMs, checking in on them to see if they'd ever come out of it when their next doomsday came and went.

They'd typically first message me calling me a Satanic pedophile. I'd ignore it and ask questions.

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) January 17, 2021

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

"they think they're the good guys" otm

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

some of my mother's friends went full-on Q. she is utterly baffled by how crazy it sounds, but she hasn't spent much time on social media

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Sunday, 17 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

Lmao these people. Katie Porter is fine and seems like she might be an improvement if it weren’t got the fact she she could easily lose her seat the next time the republicans have a good midterm election.

It's not as wide as the GOP, but there's also a gap between grassroots Ds & their leadership. The left, of course, has little use for either cong leader.

But it's also resistance folk.

How many who RT'd this even know who Hakeem Jeffries is?https://t.co/yAjxFtBygs

— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) January 17, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 17 January 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

Whomp whomp

Twitter has suspended the account of Georgia Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, for 12 hours, for repeatedly tweeting election misinformation, the company tells @donie. (She tweets a lot of wildly inaccurate stuff about the election and other subjects.)

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 17, 2021

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 January 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

This is big:

Um, these folks are NOT okay. pic.twitter.com/joZknx9n3a

— yvette nicole brown (@YNB) January 17, 2021

Alba, Sunday, 17 January 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link

sounds to me like someone openly trolling the QAnon folks

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 17 January 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

Amazing weight loss on lardarses part and is Biden wearing a fat suit
. Must be. Surely.

Stevolende, Sunday, 17 January 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link

I'm actually pretty okay with this development if it means they mercilessly hound 'Biden with Trump's face' as he's trying to eke out life as a private citizen.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Sunday, 17 January 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

yes otm

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 18 January 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link

we should have had a pardon pool...what's the over/under? 20 pardons? 50?

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 January 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

For the pardon pool
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61dTr-1c0KL._AC_SL1381_.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 00:45 (three years ago) link

"Does anybody remember treason?"

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link

stop the steal!!

That was a touchdown!!!

Come on now. #Bucs #FACTS

— Kayleigh McEnany (@kayleighmcenany) January 18, 2021

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link

So close, and yet so far away. https://t.co/2EOQCC23Wp pic.twitter.com/sxarmrgj0S

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 18, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2021 01:32 (three years ago) link

W-1 further advised that HATLEY was sharing his geolocation with W-2 via the application “Life360” during HATLEY’s entire time in Washington, D.C. and had told W-2 he was going to attend the protests against the certification of the election. Life360 is a cellular phone application that allows individuals to track the location of a cellular telephone if the individual has installed the company’s technology on their phone. Individuals can create an account with Life360 that allows the user to share information, such as the location of the user’s cellular telephone, with another user that has downloaded the application. W-1 identified HATLEY’s cellular telephone number for the FBI.

Real brain genius hours

Canon in Deez (silby), Monday, 18 January 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link

63,985th reference to "Confederacy of Dunces" but

This defendant, an avowed white supremacist, wore his court-ordered ankle bracelet to Trump’s speech on the Ellipse and then to the Capitol on January 6th.

He told his probation officer he would be distributing bibles with the Gideons that day. https://t.co/4Gcxh4812W pic.twitter.com/nKrpmvsVeM

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 17, 2021

pplains, Monday, 18 January 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link

Florida data scientist in battle with state over Covid dashboard plans to turn herself in
Rebekah Jones, who helped develop Florida’s dashboard, alleged a warrant was made out for her arrest on a charge unrelated to a December raid on her home.

The Florida data scientist, who alleged state officials fired her for refusing to change coronavirus numbers, said she plans on surrendering herself to law enforcement a month after authorities raided her home.

Rebekah Jones, who helped develop Florida’s Covid-19 dashboard, has been in a monthslong public battle with the state since she alleged officials ousted her from her position for her refusal to “manually change data to drum up support for the plan to reopen.” She announced on social media Saturday that she planned on surrendering to authorities.

“To protect my family from continued police violence, and to show that I'm ready to fight whatever they throw at me, I'm turning myself into police in Florida Sunday night,” Jones said.https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-data-scientist-battle-state-over-covid-dashboard-plans-turn-n1254544

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link

xp
"Distributing bibles to the insurgents, c'mon! You know they need them!"

nickn, Monday, 18 January 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link

was hoping that meant Jerry Jones got arrested

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 02:39 (three years ago) link

It turns out THIS was Biden's radical new agenda:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/new-radicals-reunion-biden-inauguration-parade-1115838/

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 18 January 2021 02:44 (three years ago) link

Jason Leopold
@JasonLeopold

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1349843834948227074/n4oL4wtI?format=jpg&name=900x900
Jon Schaffer, guitarist for metal band Iced Earth, in federal custody after Capitol insurrection, faces 6 charges
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/crime/2021/01/17/jon-schaffer-fbi-custody-after-capitol-riot/4200215001/

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link

Pic is of course much more impressive full-size: column ov selfy-taking onslaughters

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

Man, they *fill* that passageway, wall-to-wall assholes---not so funny.

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 02:48 (three years ago) link

he walks the streets
no more today
the wicked one
who yelled that day

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 02:51 (three years ago) link

lol bet he doesn't realize he just ended his career

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link

Other guy in that article is just straight up named chad huh

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Monday, 18 January 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

I've been listening to metal for over 35 years and I don't think I've ever heard a whole Iced Earth song.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 January 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link

i saw Iced Earth in like, 1998 & thought they ruled
i also thought Phil Anselmo was great when i was in high school

so i’m batting a thousand on these clowns

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 January 2021 04:09 (three years ago) link

I loved these dudes since teendom and met them only a few years ago. there's a photo of me standing with Schaffer and company somewhere on this borad.

dead 2 me now

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link

kill yr idols why because they are white supremacists

fucking hate this garbage world

brb walking into the ocean

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 January 2021 04:20 (three years ago) link

dying to see his mug shot to see if he shaved

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 04:22 (three years ago) link

lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 January 2021 04:24 (three years ago) link

he told a German news station last November that a shadowy criminal enterprise is attempting to run a world government under a Communist agenda

The durability of this storyline is something. I guess it just has an elegant simplicity, endlessly malleable. I wish I had a copyright on it.

Rudy Giuliani now says he won’t on the Trump impeachment defense team. “Because I gave an earlier speech [at the January 6 Trump rally], I am a witness and therefore unable to participate in court or Senate chamber,” he tells me.

— Jonathan Karl (@jonkarl) January 18, 2021

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Monday, 18 January 2021 05:02 (three years ago) link

Oh so now Rudy knows the law? Doubt it

Canon in Deez (silby), Monday, 18 January 2021 05:02 (three years ago) link

we should have had a pardon pool...what's the over/under? 20 pardons? 50?

His final act of largesse.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/17/politics/trump-pardons-expected/index.html

clemenza, Monday, 18 January 2021 05:48 (three years ago) link

Over/under on a posthumous pardon for Timothy McVeigh?

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 January 2021 10:01 (three years ago) link

If every pardon receiving capitol insurgent immediately goes out to further their agenda that means they're liable again dunnit.

I mean every crime committed after a pardon is a fresh unpardoned crime, and whatever protocol there might have been beforehand about trying to give people any form of leeway, which probably wouldn't have been a thing anybody would have adhered to goes out the window dunnit. like, defenestration and fun things like that.

Stevolende, Monday, 18 January 2021 10:38 (three years ago) link

Another specimen

New affidavits this morning in Capitol insurrection investigation. This rioter, who was caught on camera flushing his eyes from pepper spray, allegedly threatened his children if they turned him in. pic.twitter.com/ebZXTUTpQU

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) January 18, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

This Axios series, Off the Rails, is quite a thing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 January 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link

You know, I'm starting to think the US Constitution sucks and is in dire need of an overhaul.

xps

pomenitul, Monday, 18 January 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

The Axios series is indeed a fun read, especially when you presume the identities of the parties spilling details to cover their own asses. But they coddled this dangerous toddler, so fuck 'em.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link

uhh

BREAKING: Smoke rising behind Capitol building. Inauguration rehearsal appears to be evacuating. Emergency announcement playing at Capitol grounds. pic.twitter.com/86J9S8CsMY

— Jackson Proskow (@JProskowGlobal) January 18, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

NEW: At 10:20am, Hill staffers received the following text per @ArdenFarhi:

“All buildings within the Capitol Complex: External security threat, no entry or exit is permitted, stay away from exterior windows, doors. If outside, seem cover. USCP”

— Weijia Jiang (@weijia) January 18, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

Fucking hell.

pomenitul, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

oh shit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 January 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

fire at homeless encampment per CNN

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 January 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

sometimes life is art

lag∞n, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link

sometimes life is fart

UPDATE: Appears a burning tent under an overpass triggered the lockdown. No more details at this point. https://t.co/nqKhORlQQa

— Conflict News (@Conflicts) January 18, 2021

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Monday, 18 January 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link

t got no place to move to now?

Stevolende, Monday, 18 January 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link

fuck sake now underpants is stuck in my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW54X5IEgIk

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 18 January 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

Just want to point out real quick that the 16th and 17th were supposed to be be big days for nationwide follow-up insurrectionist activity and today is the 18th. Take yr good news where you can get it.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 January 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link

i am feeling less nerveracked about Inauguration than I was. it's every day after that I worry about now.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

but i gotta live life so....

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

I was talking abt this w/ someone last night and we speculated that the crackdown/arrests would necessarily put the breaks on any violence before the 20th...fingers crossed though it'll be a whimper

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

i'm glad they're thinking about it/doing their best to vet the people who will be there.

when it comes to the military, it basically seems like we've been told all along - top brass would never accept or go along with a coup, but individuals within the military, even those who might have decent rank, definitely violate their oath to the Constitution.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

even though there are 74 million Trump voters I think only a small handful of them are crazy enough to actually attempt a coup. they blew their shot on 2 weeks ago. I don't think they're going to get another chance like that.

frogbs, Monday, 18 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

Yeah that's the thing here -- there's not a 74 million person army. There was (in comparison to those numbers) an utterly miniscule clutch of deluded/rich/weird supporters who showed up in the first place -- from all over the country! this wasn't a groundswell of specific local support reflecting percentages across the board -- and then a smaller number of them who got in the building and then a smaller number of THEM who were out for blood. None of which is meant to be reassuring or an excuse, people are dead, more might have been, it's terrible all around! But...we gotta keep this in mind.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

i'm going to be watching my back when I go out a little more, that's for sure.

but I"m mega paranoid as it is so that part isn't a problem

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/business/media/fox-news-seth-rich-settlement.html

fuckin ghouls

Nhex, Monday, 18 January 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link

Agree with Ned. A lot of pants-wetters are like, "But 74 million people voted for him! The country is teetering on the precipice of insurrection!" Nah. 73,995,000 of those people are lazy fucks who shot their wad on Election Day. Of the remaining 5000 potentially violent/dangerous individuals, at least half are dumb as shit (cf. the guy who wore his police ankle monitor on his trip to DC, or all the ones who shouted their names into the camera, bare-faced, during the 1/6 rampage). This is one of the biggest examples of "Twitter/Facebook/Gab/etc. is not real life" I can imagine.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

it was so clear that none of them even considered there would be consequences

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

they either thought they would a) succeed, with the assistance of the Capitol police and military by their side or b) wouldn't, but would be spared/pardoned by Trump

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

counterpoint: how many people voted for biden? do we think there are 81M ardent Biden fans willing to die for him? or is it more like a small margin that are the true believers (Jill), and a bunch of other people willing to go along with it? that's why i wet my pants about 74M trump voters. there's the marginal-crazy that can and will "storm the capitol" and then just stand there in it, once stormed, like a dog who is trying to figure out how to have sex with a car it caught. but then there are aaaaaall the other people (including Cruz, Hawley, etc etc) that are willing to step up and validate the marginal-crazy, over and over. it's not just the people who traveled from across the country, it is many more people

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

xposts

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

xxpost that one lady who cried and said "this isn't America, why are they shooting at us? they're supposed to be shooting at BLM!" being one of the most disgusting examples of their mindrot

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

there are armed lefties out there willing to take to the streets, but they knew it a folly to be there on January 6th. would have possibly been a bloodbath

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link

but anyway, not trying to wet my pants about this again. i think the worst is over (for now), and yes, the fact that the 16th and 17th have passed without much trouble is very comforting (less comforting is the fact that the reason they didn't emerge is probably because it was a once in a lifetime event when mainstream media were loudly warning about the possibility of widespread violence for a week in advance, which led to every state making precautions and white supremacists telling each other to back down (for now), smartly, because it's clearly a trap). but i expect that anyone talking about pants-wetting right now, worrying about the issue of white supremacy and violence, was probably also telling me not to wet my pants about potential violence pre-1/6/21

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link

It only takes one dumb as shit (or smart!) person with an assault weapon to do a ton of damage. Seeing a few hundred dumbs shits with weapons and a motive, however ill-conceived, it does not make me feel better that it's just a fraction of the millions of total dumb shits. Which is to say, I'm not worried about an insurrection, as such, I'm worried about all the other shit that could go wrong until these lunatics settle down a little. Which hopefully happens relatively quickly after this week is over, but let's just say as with most things in life these days, I have very low hopes.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link

also, just because i'm counterpointing everyone right now - unpopular opinion, but there are a TON of dumbasses on the left too

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link

I'm not yet worried about them shooting or blowing up a crowd.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

i expect that this inauguration will be "fine", meaning little violence. but that achievement comes in the reality of holding the ceremony in a heavily guarded warzone with a trillion cameras and barbed wire and bulletproof glass and security zones and free speech zones and all the rest. all while pretending that none of that exists, and that instead it's a normal, crisp January inauguration like any other. but it's not

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

You are right there. It's going to be a little unsettling seeing 25,000 Guardsmen on the lawn who are literally there to prevent a fuckin' insurrection

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

Not something i ever thought possible in my lifetime a decade ago

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link

Not to mention that we are still taking our shoes off in airports because one guy tried to light his foot on fire and blow up a plane 20 years ago, god knows what this addition need for "security" might spiral into.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link

Toby Keith concerts must be performed in a dome

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

On Mars

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

if we get through today without any major incidents, i'll be happy. it seems too tempting for assholes to use their MLK day holiday to pull some crap

Nhex, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

Celebrating Martin Luther King Day. With music by Sam Cooke, Herbie Hancock, and The Staples Singers. Also: Martin Luther King, Bob Marley, Bob Dylan, Charles Mingus, John Fahey, SNCC Freedom Singers, Sly and The Family Stone, Public Enemy, many more:
http://americanroutes.wwno.org/archives/show/420/Martin-Luther-King-Day Think there's a more recent version, just now in the radio, not posted yet apparently.

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

It only takes one dumb as shit (or smart!) person with an assault weapon to do a ton of damage.

This is true, and I'm 100% sure that as soon as we have mass gatherings again, we will have mass shootings again. And some of those maniacs will be wearing MAGA hats. But there's always been an underpants-gnomes quality to terrorism, to me:

Step 1: mass shooting event/blow up government building
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Society/the US government collapses and the rebels take over

January 6 was as close as we've gotten to actual sedition/rebellion since the end of the Civil War, and it was...not close at all.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

we should have told them the Electoral Vote counting was on the 7th

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Smoke rising behind Capitol building. Inauguration rehearsal appears to be evacuating. Emergency announcement playing at Capitol grounds. pic.twitter.com/86J9S8CsMY

— Jackson Proskow (@JProskowGlobal) January 18, 2021

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

doh sorry wrong link

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

Not to mention that we are still taking our shoes off in airports because one guy tried to light his foot on fire

speak for yourself, I'm TSA plus, by which I mean to say more generally that the costs and constraints of all the extra security are inevitably and by design going to fall more lightly on people who can spend money to avoid being inconvenienced

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

I’m wondering if eating 10 weeks months between the election and the inauguration is the best idea?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

These people still 'believe' the election was stolen - a circumstance which would probably justify violence. Not sure that has changed.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

I’m wondering if eating 10 weeks months between the election and the inauguration is the best idea?

good old american exceptionalism

i guess the question is whether we should expect to see this again and take steps to address it, or if this is a one-time unique event:

What’ve seen is the President turn the transition period – something pretty unique to the American system – into a two-plus month long period in which the winner of the election has to fight to make sure the results of the election are honored. Given Trump’s history, the best way to view it is that Joe Biden won a court judgment against Trump and Trump said, “Fine, good luck enforcing it.”

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

Thank you for ignoring the gibberish typos in my comment Karl.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

gibberish typos are my love language <3

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

After what we've seen I find it a little unsettling that enough ppl itt are so ready to underestimate what these people are capable of.

Also this idea that "only a fraction" are nutjobs, when +/- 80% of Republicans believe the election was stolen and Biden is illegitimate. "Only a fraction" of 70 million is....millions of people.

A lot of October posts dismissing the idea that anything near where what has *actually happened* was remotely possible. Anybody suggesting as much was an alarmist and "doomposting"

I for one am hoping for the best, preparing for the worst.

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

A lot of October posts dismissing the idea that anything near where what has *actually happened* was remotely possible. Anybody suggesting as much was an alarmist and "doomposting"

yeah, trying my best not to let this go down the memory hole

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

xp Hadrian otm

Nhex, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

when you repeatedly tell tens of millions of gullible people with guns and a persecution complex that their country is being "stolen", you should expect the repercussions to continue coming for years, decades, lifetimes

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

It's funny, but I have no use for this thread at the moment. I wish I could just get banned from ILE sometimes.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

i fully expect that my moment of death will be a heart attack, directly caused by arguing with some doofus whippersnapper in the mid-21st century that just SWEARS that trump actually won the 2020 election and they have the proof

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

there are other threads table!

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

xp table- it's good for your mental health to walk away from the internet!

Nhex, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

visit the Hades thread on i love games. Hades is one of the best games of ALL TIME

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

I don't own a television, grew up without video games, don't play them now. Waste of time.

Just going to unbookmark this thread.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

This thread helps my sanity.

sorry table, i didn't mean to run you off! i was just trying to be kind of funny, sorry. but yeah, i get unbookmarking this thread. it's a mix of bleakness and unwarranted optimism (or unwarranted bleakness and clearheaded optimism)

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

xp me too, and I know we have different coping mechanisms

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

total aside, i will say that there are things about games that are interesting and important, even if you don't play them. like, the structure of games influences art and narrative works as well (or it should)

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

I'm all for optimistic bleakness!

I come and go on this thread, but I am damn sure keeping up until the 22nd at least

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

in the same way that one might not watch tv, but it's still important and useful to know about it because it has had such a pervasive influence on EVERYTHING since it existed

xp

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

Same

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 18 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

CNN headline: "Harris resigns"--what????!!!--"from the Senate ahead of inauguration."

clemenza, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

what if the true kamala conspiracy theory is that BOTH biden and harris are going to be overwhelmed by their physical and mental deterioration, giving us _president nancy pelosi_ by fall 2021!??

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

Inbox: Speaker Pelosi sent a letter late yesterday to Acting Defense Secretary Miller demanding an immediate halt to "the improper process of installing unqualified Trump-loyalist Michael Ellis" as the new NSA General Counsel 72 hours prior to the beginning of the new admin.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 18, 2021

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

I won't let on exactly why I unbookmarked, but I will say that it isn't the bleakness. I eat bleakness three meals a day.

I don't want to get in one of the old ILX challops tropes, and I really don't think this stance makes me superior to anyone, but I just really don't think that knowing about or understanding television is important, and considering that I've gone 15+ years without a proper TV or cable, not much is going to change my mind about that. (Yes, I have Netflix).

The video games thing I understand, it's just very much not for me— if I'm going to waste time in a fantasy world, I'd rather be reading. Also, again, raised without TV.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

There really needs to be a purge of these Trump turds. The Deep-Clean State.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

The lefty journalist David Klion was acquaintances with Michael Ellis in high school and wrote about him a few months ago:

Ellis was awkward and gangly, like the rest of us, but he had a certain old-fashioned gallantry; always well-mannered, always chivalrous. He was intelligent, a star student at Richard Montgomery High School’s competitive international baccalaureate program, from which he would go on to Dartmouth College(where he edited the Dartmouth Review) and Yale Law School. He was an Eagle Scout, a classical music aficionado, and an unabashed snob. He subscribed to National Review and once chided me for reading Entertainment Weekly, and he made a point of not listening to any contemporary popular music—no alternative rock or hip-hop for him. He sometimes wore bowties; he rotated daily between vintage Dwight Eisenhower, Barry Goldwater, and Richard Nixon campaign buttons; and he carried a pocket Constitution to deploy during arguments.

He was by far the more competent and hard-working of the two of us, and his reward for that has been to carry water for both of the most destructive presidents of our lifetime. As our cohort became more politically conscious toward the end of high school, some of the women we knew began questioning how Michael could support a party opposed to their reproductive rights. “Michael’s response was that he didn’t really care one way or another about abortion rights and just enjoyed politics and thought that you could have more fun as a Republican,” one friend and fellow veteran of our Diplomacy games told me.

jaymc, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

Speaking of games, Jan 15 New Yorker Radio Hour (incl. xp Mogelson) And a game designer offers insights on how the fantastical, wholly fictional narrative of QAnon has captivated so many people—to such dangerous effect. He also suggests ways to counteract, but I dunno...
Posted here: https://www.npr.org/podcasts/458929150/the-new-yorker-radio-hour

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link

January 6 was as close as we've gotten to actual sedition/rebellion since the end of the Civil War, and it was...not close at all.

Actually, the Jan. 6 assault *was* close. By some reports they were seconds away from getting to Pence, and had they made it into congress with one assault weapon or bomb or grenade - and there *were* bombs and molotov cocktails discovered elsewhere - they could have killed or injured dozens. And they weren't stopped because they were met by overwhelming force or anything, they failed because they lacked the necessary tools (weapons and smarts and imagination). But had they succeeded in that window of opportunity? If several members of congress and/or the VP were killed or incapacitated? I'm not sure what the next step after that would have been. Again, they weren't really *stopped.* They were left wandering around for ages. So were they "close?" Absolutely, as close as anyone has ever gotten to effectively taking out a big part of the government.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

xp The game designer recognizes a lot of classic techniques, but says such projects usually burn out after a few years at most---this has become more of a back-and-forth, expansive, Tik Tok-type folk process (my terms---also I recall, maybe from 90s doc, a salesman who shrugged off then-recent"revelations" of certain Mormon documents as bogus: he grew up in this still-golden Promised Land culture, and whattayagonnado anyway)

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

BREAKING (CNN): Rep. Steve Cohen confirms that Rep. @laurenboebert gave a large tour prior to the attack on the Capitol.

— Jesse Damiani (@JesseDamiani) January 18, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link

Actually, the Jan. 6 assault *was* close. By some reports they were seconds away from getting to Pence, and had they made it into congress with one assault weapon or bomb or grenade - and there *were* bombs and molotov cocktails discovered elsewhere - they could have killed or injured dozens. And they weren't stopped because they were met by overwhelming force or anything, they failed because they lacked the necessary tools (weapons and smarts and imagination). But had they succeeded in that window of opportunity? If several members of congress and/or the VP were killed or incapacitated? I'm not sure what the next step after that would have been. Again, they weren't really *stopped.* They were left wandering around for ages. So were they "close?" Absolutely, as close as anyone has ever gotten to effectively taking out a big part of the government.

*response deleted*

I'm following table out the door, for a while at least.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

but I just really don't think that knowing about or understanding television is important, and considering that I've gone 15+ years without a proper TV or cable, not much is going to change my mind about that. (Yes, I have Netflix).

i guess i should clarify, especially because i think my interpretation of this is shared by virtually no one. when i think about the importance of television, it's not like breaking bad or oz or the robot or something. instead, it's the inbetween, gooey, hard-to-define, forgotten stuff -
the way advertising, the [EDIT: i am a dumbass, so i stopped]

you know what, i watched Being There last night for the first time. that movie kind of gets at why i care about tv

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

I mean....whether or not we agree it was close, I think we can all agree that most all of us were shitting ourselves itt. I was

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link

i guess unperson's angle was going to be that even if pence had his head blown off, it's not like that was going to make the coup successful. instead it would be a very serious moment and everyone would back off at that moment, realizing that it had gone too far

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link

just a guess though

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link

i think some are also trying to believe in a future that isn't scary. I don't think the cat's going back in the bag. violent acts by right wing terrorists were already a growing problem long before Trump. but he accelerated/legitimized their movements. so now the trash can fire has spread to the entire house

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure what the next step after that would have been. Yeah, was wondering if this (Jan/ 6) Congressional ceremony is legally crucial, since the states have already certified? I know it's in the Constitution, but as long as surviving, uncaptured members did it before the 20th, maybe *later* on the 6th---?

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link

well technically merely assassinating a President or Veep doesn't make a coup successful. You would have to install a replacement of your own choosing and manage to keep them there (and then you'd be facing off against the US Army).

the coup would have worked if they had somehow convinced the Senate/House at gunpoint to throw out Biden's votes and swing the vote to the House, who would then, also at gunpoint, select Trump.

perhaps that's what he means by "not close", but it isn't as if shooting up House reps and Senators en masse wouldn't be a traumatizing event that forever damaged the country in unrepairable ways

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link

glad Pelosi is escalating on the Ellis bullshit. from what I've read, there are other legal avenues available to Biden if he gets installed. it's not just a position you can fire outright, but if there's shenanigans like what has unfurled, there's options.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

the coup would have worked if they had somehow convinced the Senate/House at gunpoint to throw out Biden's votes and swing the vote to the House, who would then, also at gunpoint, select Trump.

perhaps that's what he means by "not close", but it isn't as if shooting up House reps and Senators en masse wouldn't be a traumatizing event that forever damaged the country in unrepairable ways

yeah, exactly. i don't fault anyone for not wanting to use their "imagination" on thinking of how things could have gone - it's dark. but yeah i think honing in on the bureaucratic/legal processes for appointing a successor is kind of a narrow view of things, when you're talking about a coup. when violence and usurping the law become dominant. all these laws, regulations, boundaries we draw between each other, legal precedent, an lifetime's worth of experience and precedents, among all of us - all of that goes out of the window when physical violence overwhelms it.

anyway, it all feels very "two weeks before archduke ferdinand's assassination" to me, but hey what do i know

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

Meantime, among the clods.

*Texas real estate broker Jenna Ryan says she has no regrets about being in the middle of the Capitol riot.
*“I have no guilt in my heart.”
*She said she decided to go to D.C. after “a very cute guy” invited her to join him aboard a private jet.https://t.co/ChXniozrQU pic.twitter.com/EEjPID4zQw

— Jim Roberts (@nycjim) January 18, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

FBI vetting service members ahead of inauguration amid reported fears of insider attack.
The heightened security measures come after former and current members of law enforcement, the military appear to have participated in the Capitol riot.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/fbi-vetting-service-members-ahead-inauguration-amid-reported-fears-insider-n1254574

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link

I don't think the surviving/uncaptured members would have caved re throwing out Biden's win---I don't know what I'd do, but...

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link

I've never once been any more upset, or more afraid, or more concerned than I have been for the past four years, not really. It's been a pretty steady unease and anxiety. I wasn't intending to throw out apocalyptic hypotheticals, those hypotheticals have been valid for years now. But the reason the events at the capital were so upsetting is that by definition it was close, or at least much closer than it should have been. The unanswered question is how much more difficult would it have been to get even closer. Dunno, especially considering the general insanity and ineptitude of the White House.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

xp To go along with that wouldn't really save anything, prob incl. lives of selves and family, not for long.

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link

I wonder if some of them will want to go after Trump, now that/if he's "failed" them---he's still in charge for now, to whatever extent.

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

https://www.propublica.org/article/inside-the-capitol-riot-what-the-parler-videos-reveal

i'm working my way through this as well (it's very long, and very good). and this gets to the idea upthread about the number of people at the coup being relatively small compared to the country, and how that's (imo) misleading:

And what struck me most about them is just how much this assemblage of people assaulting the Capitol reminded me of people I had seen and spoken with over the years at regular Republican campaign events, going all the way back to Sarah Palin’s electric appearances in 2008. At my first Trump rally in 2016, at an airplane hangar outside Dayton, Ohio, I had been amazed by the cross section on display: There were husbands in golf caps with well-manicured wives, frat boys, fathers with sons. All of them, all that year, had thrilled to Trump’s toxic rambles about heroin-toting Mexicans, Democratic voter fraud (a theme he had picked up from plenty of more conventional Republican politicians) and “the swamp” in Congress. Never mind that the Republican Party controlled the lower chamber of the legislature for eight years of the decade and the upper chamber for six.

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

eh, i should pull a "normal person" and just link to the thing that say what i think and then leave

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link

eh, i can never be a "normal person"

i never want to the be the white person in a group telling everyone else that everything is going to be ok because the violent/fascist white people aren't that big of a deal

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

that may very well correct, but i would very much prefer to be wrong than to be yelling "EVERYTHING'S FINE" in a movie theater that's burning down

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

also, the violent/fascist/racist white people already destroyed a lot of what i cared about, so it's exactly a bogeyman

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

if there's a time to be wary about this, i would think it's now?

Nhex, Monday, 18 January 2021 19:09 (three years ago) link

so it's ^not^ exactly a bogeyman, i meant. no other typos in there though!

if there's a time to be wary about this, i would think it's now?
exactly. i understand not wanting to engage in it deeply. it's the handwaving away that drives me nuts

Karl Malone, Monday, 18 January 2021 19:12 (three years ago) link

I think it's yet another ironic aspect of the constant dread of the past few months. We get used to the possibility of disaster, because it has been always imminent. Not unlike the decades long fear of nuclear apocalypse. The threat, whatever it was, was no less in the 80s than it was in the 60s, say, but no one was doing duck and cover exercises in the '80s.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link

Not to be alarmist, but really think we should brace ourselves for that xxxxp inside job: vetting so very many troops is difficult (more now in DC than Afghanistan and Iraq combined, according to npr today).

dow, Monday, 18 January 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link

it's the handwaving away that drives me nuts

compared to terrorism coming from outside, political violence organized by white US citizens is much easier to assemble and put into action because of their automatic privileges within society. this makes them especially dangerous. having white skin, a good haircut, slacks and a polo shirt gives a person a free pass, no matter how much poison or explosives they are stockpiling.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 18 January 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

i was telling Mr Veg yesterday I’ve been experiencing frustration w a friend back in Australia who whenever we talk about Trump she kind of claims ownership along with me or one ups me like yes she’s counting down the days too & shes going to a zoom inauguration party and it drives me crazy like OMG HES NOT YOUR PRESIDENT THIS IS MY TRAUMA YOU CANT SHARE IT

and mr veg was like, hey he stressed everyone out, not just americans & shes prob stressed bc you are her American friend

which makes sense & i feel less mad now

i’ve internalized so much of the anxiety of the past 4 it kinda freaks me out when i sort of see it laid out like that

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 18 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

I appreciate that take VG, as someone who's often frustrated by that as well

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Monday, 18 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

I think I can speak on behalf of Canada when I say that Trump significantly stressed 70% of us out, too.

(The other 30% are superfans)

Guys don’t @ me because I tazed my own balls alright? (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 18 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

Australian news seems to have really amped up coverage of US politics in the last few years, there’s only so many deaths by crocodile and you’ve got to fill a 24 hour news cycle with something.

Like many other places we get referred trauma because trump has emboldened our own fascist fucks in the coalition and beyond and the PM is a big trump fan, it’s excused his own worst behaviour.

I try to stand back, but American wife and I lived there for 5 years and have a lot of friends suffering; it’s hard not to internalise it.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 18 January 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

lol

it's weird seeing 4x4s drive through different parts of greater vancouver with trump stickers and flags

the amount of trump supporters in canada is a lot more than i'd expect

Punster McPunisher, Monday, 18 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

Never seen a trump sticker but one of my neighbors has a Bernie 2016 sticker on his bike. Which says a lot more about my neighbourhood than Australia in general.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 18 January 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

Here’s the letter pic.twitter.com/EEjB9yDmfg

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 18, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

Referring to

Dominion sends a cease and desist letter to Mr. My Pillow https://t.co/dYbExkcrW4

— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) January 18, 2021

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

In New Zealand we have a New Conservative party. They’re pretty much Trump-like in their policies - xenophobic, racist, etc - but only got about 2% of the vote in a electoral system that allows smaller parties a chance at representation. So Trump’s support is limited here, thankfully.

aphoristical, Monday, 18 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

btw KM just to let you know I did an IRL lol at "(Jill)"

Australian news seems to have really amped up coverage of US politics in the last few years, there’s only so many deaths by crocodile and you’ve got to fill a 24 hour news cycle with something.

Also Australian news has largely stopped bothering to hold Australian politicians or other corruption to account, so some extra room was created.

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 18 January 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link

ain't that the truth

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 18 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

Would be a real tragedy if they bankrupted Lindell and sent him back to smoking crack under a bridge.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 18 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

That is also because of the contrast, IMO, everyone can look across the pacific and smugly say 200milluon in underserved loot to coalition bowlos or 437 indigenous deaths in custody is that bad*. ‘Our PM may be a prick but at least he isn’t trying to burn everything down’ (except when everything burnt down in part due to his and his party’s capture by the fossil fuel industry)

Apologies, we should take this auspol somewhere else.

*it is that bad it both a tradgedy in its own right but also emblematic of over 200 years of degradation and oppression of First Nations people.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 18 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

here's my take on the My Pillow guy - he never stopped smoking crack. perhaps he took a break from it but he never stopped.

frogbs, Monday, 18 January 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link

As someone who has smoked crack, I can assure you that there's no way that guy still smokes crack

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 18 January 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

what's your take on Don Jr. and Kimberly then

frogbs, Monday, 18 January 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link

As someone who has smoked crack, I can assure you that there's no way that guy still smokes crack


Too fat?

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 18 January 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

what's your take on Don Jr. and Kimberly then


European Sudafed

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 18 January 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link

Alex Jones trying to crash the inauguration:

“This is not a political statement. This is a statement of unity,” @garthbrooks says of accepting Biden’s invitation to perform at the inauguration. pic.twitter.com/k79OR5Trvm

— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) January 18, 2021

... (Eazy), Monday, 18 January 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

that logo looks like two tortellini in a breakfast bowl

Florida Man vs. California Bill (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 January 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

i.e. Brooks' lunch.

This is super fucking mean and I’m here for it

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 18 January 2021 22:54 (three years ago) link

Don Jr. appears to be on a cocktail that includes cocaine, cocktails, and sedatives, depending on what iteration of Don we're looking at. Wouldn't be surprised if there's Fancy Meth (aka adderall) in there, too, subbed in for the coke.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 18 January 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

Not unlike the decades long fear of nuclear apocalypse. The threat, whatever it was, was no less in the 80s than it was in the 60s, say, but no one was doing duck and cover exercises in the '80s.


We did duck and cover exercises a lot all through elementary school in the 80s! In Floriduh.

All cars are bad (Euler), Monday, 18 January 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link

We watched "The Day After," that was as far as we got.

Meanwhile, in the world of in it to win it:

The My Pillow CEO responds and tells @UrsulaPerano @axios : "I want Dominion to put up their lawsuit because we have 100% evidence that China and other countries used their machines to steal the election." https://t.co/guBEq88M63

— Kate Nocera (@KateNocera) January 18, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link

this should be fun

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link

bring it

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link

every one of these clowns is 100% abt the double down

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link

Now that he has continued to spread falsehoods about Dominion after being told that they are false, it will be even easier for Dominion to prove “actual malice” by the My Pillow CEO in court. https://t.co/7dyCIiZ4G9

— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) January 18, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link

the unfortunate fallout from all this will be no more game-changing pillows

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link

I didn't realize ex-presidents sometimes get classified briefings. They were just saying on CNN that they're debating whether or not Trump will get them.

Debating?!

clemenza, Monday, 18 January 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

Well, we really shouldn't be too hasty until we've heard all sides of the argument. Maybe he promised to be a good boy from now on!

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

There was an op-ed in the Washington Post the other day about that. A deputy director of national intelligence under Trump argues that his intelligence should be cut off.

jaymc, Monday, 18 January 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link

If they go forward with that, they'd better start checking eBay on an hourly basis.

clemenza, Monday, 18 January 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

why would any ex-president get access to classified info? that's nuts

our system of government is so fucking dumb

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link

I could be wrong, but I think it's that previous presidents are so often called into service for advice by new administrations. Same with former CIA guys, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link

That’s what I figure.

Well, we really shouldn't be too hasty until we've heard all sides of the argument. Maybe he promised to be a good boy from now on!

Lol, OL, was trying to figure out how to word that myself.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

Since when has Trump concerned himself with intelligence, anyway?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 January 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

Or needing actual people to tell him things?

Mark G, Monday, 18 January 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link

He's so smart he already knows everything, so nobody can tell him anything.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link

Reminds me of...never mind, I will save it for Ask Dr. Freud.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link

Pillow Bitch is gonna have such a reckoning

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:45 (three years ago) link

He thinks he’s so-phisticated.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:46 (three years ago) link

He's gonna be paying Dominion until he's in an urn

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

or a pillowcase

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Monday, 18 January 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

WmC, I'd bet our boy has already had his head in a pillowcase once before. With eyeholes.

pplains, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 00:15 (three years ago) link

Since when has Trump concerned himself with intelligence, anyway?
Yeah, I've read several times over the many dog years of this regime that prev. advisors were frustrated because Trump dgaf about daily briefings, incl. intelligence. Just as well, I suspect.

dow, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link

Would think future presidents might learn best what to avoid from t's behaviour so actively supplying him with new sensitive data would appear a negative idea.
Gosh wonder what he'll pull tomorrow his last chance to show off.

If he gets stripped of the ability to run for further office can they strip him of the use of the title too? Or add the mandatory prefix disgraced or something.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 00:49 (three years ago) link

As long as they don't outright strip him, because ... gross.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link

strip-search on imprisonment wkd be ok

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:10 (three years ago) link

And what a thrill it’ll be.

NEW: President Trump recorded a farewell address from the White House on Monday, CNN has learned, offering a list of accomplishments from his four years in office. It was a taped valedictory message from the State Floor of the residence, which could be released Tuesday.

— Jeff Zeleny (@jeffzeleny) January 19, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

Ah yes

Lin Wood is still telling people today on Telegram that “Trump will be President for at least 4 more years” pic.twitter.com/Fbu0UXUYg8

— Gabe Hoffman (@GabeHoff) January 18, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link

xxxxp I have never in my lifetime ever read or heard about previous presidents being called into service to advise new administrations

Dan S, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:22 (three years ago) link

Wait has T ever given a live national address?? Not a press conference or a rally but a good ol fashioned fireside "my fellow Americans" chat?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:28 (three years ago) link

39 hours and 12 minutes left in the Trump administration jsyk

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link

Tomorrow is Pardon Announcement Day, I suppose.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link

Like when we wake up tomorrow morning, there will only be one day remaining of this shit. Even if there's a good deal of other shit left to deal with, I will welcome the end of this particular shit.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

CUE THE NEW SHIT

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link

Meet the new shit . . .

nickn, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link

old shit
new shit
red shit
blue shit

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link

Like yes, lots of things will still be terrible, but I feel like it will be so much easier to process and cope with those terrible things when the POTUS is no longer playing Russian roulette with the country and its inhabitants two dozen times a day.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link

for sure and i am hopeful the new boss can't be as bad as the old boss, but frankly until i and everyone i love (and hey everyone else too) is inoculated against the current plague with the MOTHERFUCKING EXTANT VACCINE THAT OUR DYSFUNCTIONAL GOVERNMENT IS INCAPABLE OF ADMINISTRATING, i am gonna stay mired in my daily existential crisis thanks

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link

every death in this country at this point is even more senseless than before, more egregious, more criminal, more damnable

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link

xxpost i hope so. been shit on so long it's like we're living in a cacastle

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link

found what I wrote on 11/9 on FB:

"He is a bully that ran roughshod over many people. He is a misogynist, a likely sexual assault artist, and a failed business man who was born on third. He is a xenophobic scaremonger that is stoking fires that really shouldn't be stoked.
Putting this man in office validates this behavior to many people.

So forgive me if I don't find your "ho ho ho he's just a President, not a dictator" smugness amusing. There are tensions brewing in this country that this could be set off. Think about the Cliven Bundys of this world. Rebellion against.....being told what to do. Might makes right. That it comes at the expense of what would have been a landmark, the first female President, feels like another blow to the solar plexus."

god I'm glad I didn't have the ability to tell my younger self that it'd be even worse than imagined.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link

11/9/2016 that is

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link

Frankly, I think we got out of these four years much more easily than we might have. Yes, things are going to be bad for a long while as a direct result of the Trump administration, but they could've been so much worse. Had he been more focused/motivated/competent, we could likely have suffered any number of 1/6-es prior to 1/6.

Looks like I'm gonna be the filling in a missile sandwich! (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link

prior to 2020, I'd have agreed. he decided to do the majority of his worst deeds in a compressed timeframe.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has obtained an arrest warrant for a woman alleged to have stolen a laptop from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, with the intention of selling the device to the Russian equivalent of the Central Intelligence Agency.

In an affidavit signed on Sunday, FBI Special Agent Jonathan Lund said the agency was investigating Riley June Williams after a person described as her “former romantic partner” told authorities that Williams intended to send the computer to a friend in Russia who would then pass it along to the SVR, the country’s spy force.

Lund wrote that the former romantic partner said the transfer of the laptop “fell through for unknown reasons” and that Williams either still has the device or destroyed it.
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/18/capitol-riot-fbi-investigating-woman-said-to-have-stolen-pelosis-laptop-to-sell-to-russia.html

dow, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:00 (three years ago) link

imagining her showing her lover the laptop during coitus and him going into the bathroom and calling the FBI on her and her breaking up with him after she heard the call

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link

it's hard to imagine the pandemic being handled any worse

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link

Brazil, maybe?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:11 (three years ago) link

(by an american president)

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:12 (three years ago) link

no sooner did he go on his Tweet tirade about the flu killing more people or calling it the "corona flu virus" than a bunch of paint-thinner drinkers in my orbit start to repeat the same line.

generally, not what you want from your Executive branch

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:12 (three years ago) link

I hope Orban, Bolsonaro, and Duterte all fall out of huge trees next

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:12 (three years ago) link

but maybe if trump had taken it seriously bolsonaro would've too

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:13 (three years ago) link

I have never in my lifetime ever read or heard about previous presidents being called into service to advise new administrations

Not, like, literally. Just that as I understand it or thought I'd heard it, presidents have been known to call one another on occasion for advice and recommendations. It is, after all, a pretty rarified club.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:51 (three years ago) link

omfg about the Pelosi laptop shit, that is nuts

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link

A different pillow company saw the images of National Guard troops bivouacked on the floor of the Capitol building and decided to donate hundreds of travel pillows and sleep masks to the troops. After much wrangling they were able to deliver to a detachment of NG troops on standby in DC.

It's been a long day, but I have pillow news! To recap: National Guard sleeping on hard floors while defending our Capitol. Lots of you tagged us asking if we could help. We tweeted in search of a service member in DC, and had a hit within an hour. 1/8

— One Fresh Pillow (@OneFreshPillow) January 15, 2021

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 03:59 (three years ago) link

get you a pillow that can do both

Our country has a lot of problems, but I'll be damned if I'm going to see it brought to its knees by a bunch of LARPing assholes worshiping the worst president we will (hopefully) ever see. If sending this stuff helps this group fight the good fight, then it's all worth it. 8/8 pic.twitter.com/9L4xbL3DOu

— One Fresh Pillow (@OneFreshPillow) January 15, 2021

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:08 (three years ago) link

Pillow fight!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:10 (three years ago) link

Now *that* is how you seize an opportunity.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:13 (three years ago) link

Speaking of opportunities:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/parler-partially-reappears-support-russian-234401397.html

pomenitul, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:15 (three years ago) link

these USA USA USA USA chanting motherfuckers sure are some patriots huh

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:19 (three years ago) link

Have we talked about the National Garden of American Heroes? Who compiled this list? It is so weird.


https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-building-national-garden-american-heroes/

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:33 (three years ago) link

Dr. Seuss but not Malcolm X

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link

Both Houstons, Sam AND Whitney.

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 04:49 (three years ago) link

Sacagawea but no Pocahontas

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 05:03 (three years ago) link

Where’s Jon Voight?

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 05:03 (three years ago) link

kobe but no wilt

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 05:25 (three years ago) link

Somehow or other, as the inauguration is about about 36 hours away and Trump has not been able to tweet for over a week, the posting on this thread has changed its tenor and seems somewhat less frantic and anxious. I hope it is a sign of better things to come, but I don't feel entirely sanguine about that, yet.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 05:45 (three years ago) link

they could always unban him from twitter once he leaves office and it'll be like he never left

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 06:01 (three years ago) link

For some reason I always imagine that the MyPillow Guy, due to a clause in his contract, has to carry and cradle a MyPillow at all times

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 11:08 (three years ago) link

One thing to say about the forthcoming pardons rampage is that it'll keep him busy on his last day, not to mention ordering all White House staff not to flush any toilets for the entire day.

a degree in bullshit from glasters uni (Matt #2), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 11:26 (three years ago) link

Finding it hilarious his send-off tomorrow requires guests to be there around 7am. I've envisaged him leaving really slowly and p much delaying the inauguration as much as possible.

nashwan, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 12:22 (three years ago) link

would love to see taht secret service detail pick him up like they were removing furniture or better yet garbage. At least taht would make some decent people happy or at least temporarily amused.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

Colonel Ralph Albertazzie, who piloted Air Force One flights during Nixon’s presidency, recounted how he called ground control to request changing the “Air Force One” call sign mid-flight in his 1979 book “The Flying White House”:

Air Force One was 39,000 feet over a point 13 miles southwest of Jefferson City, Missouri … The time was 3 minutes and 25 seconds past noon. Albertazzie picked up his microphone and spoke to ground control: ‘Kansas City, this was Air Force One. Will you change our call sign to SAM 27000?’

Back came the reply: ‘Roger, SAM 27000. Good luck to the President.’

‘Roger, 27000.’

And then I hope they make him circle the airport for three hours.

pplains, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link

Downgrade him to Economy and lose his luggage

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link

I was about to say "Maybe it'll turn into a pumpkin in mid-air," but then I knew how the jokes would begin writing themselves after that.

pplains, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

hey this is cool

Biden selects transgender doctor, Rachel Levine, as assistant health secretary https://t.co/wSQuLRdtnW

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) January 19, 2021

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link

xpost put him on No Fly List 5 minutes prior to boarding

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link

no fly for the white guy

💯

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

Fair play

Important policy news this weekend: @Sen_JoeManchin went on Inside West Virginia Politics and kept the door open to higher stimulus checks up to $2,000 (he prefers they be targeted but didn't draw a red line) and called for spending as much as $4 trillion (!) on infrastructure. pic.twitter.com/yG0aBBcxve

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) January 19, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

Manchin, for all of his faults, is still a Democrat*

* I recognize that this is one of his major faults for some but I assume people know what I mean here; he's still largely going to fall on the left side of centrism, which means he's going to support some policies that people to the left of him would support

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

I remain wary of Manchin, but that sounds very encouraging (and I assume WV gets a big chunk of that $4T)

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

Also, WVA is a state built on federal largesse, aka pork.

How to boost ratings

The Biden/Harris inauguration is going to be an oversized satanic seance and I highly recommend that Christians avoid it at all cost.

— Lauren Witzke (@LaurenWitzkeDE) January 18, 2021

nashwan, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

once again, i wish

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

Also, WVA is a state built on federal largesse, aka pork.

I was gonna say, if there's anything West Virginia politicians understand, it's infrastructure spending. That state has chronically high poverty and the most beautiful interstates and bridges you've ever seen. (Seriously, if you've never driven the New River Gorge Bridge, it's worth the trip — https://www.nps.gov/neri/planyourvisit/nrgbridge.htm.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I discovered Witzke's feed this morning when someone shared that same tweet. It's remarkably batshit and makes MTG and Boebert look relatively sane and composed.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

'Oversized Satanic Seance' is my fourth favorite GBV track

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

Does "oversized" refer to the number of Satanists or the concentrated Satanism of the people being inaugurated? And if it's a seance, who are they planning to conjure? So many questions. I guess I'll have to watch this thing after all.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

"oversized" = "thicc"

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link

please satan we ask you, our dark lord, put a donk on this inauguration

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

chonky seance

nashwan, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

thicc satanists

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link

Leer at the Devil

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link

Big Beautiful Satanists

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

since I’m not on Twitter when I clicked on her tweet one of the I guess(?) suggested accounts to follow was this nazi diarrhea monster cartoonist called st0n3 t0$$ which I was only vaguely aware of but holy fuck does his MLK tweet make me want to walk into the ocean

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

anyway, good to know she’ll probably be running for Congress again soon when she inevitably relocates to a more favorable state/ district

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: A massive win in our fight against the climate crisis. Today, the DC Court of Appeals struck down the Trump Admnstration's 2019 repeal of the Clean Power Plan. It would have allowed more greenhouse gas emissions from electric power plants. Really proud of our coalition.

— Josh Stein (@JoshStein_) January 19, 2021

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

is this... what good news feels like?

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

My Pillow douche has already been dropped by a bunch of major retailers. Good luck with that lawsuit, buddy!

Hey, we're gonna have a whole different president in one (1) day.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

Speaking of MLK, I'm not sure I get what fashy Onion was aiming for here:

https://babylonbee.com/news/far-right-extremist-suggests-treating-people-of-all-races-equally

xps

pomenitul, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

satanists of size

superdeep borehole (harbl), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

Satanist Size Queens

pomenitul, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

xp

Ugh, they're basically saying MLK was an "All lives matter" guy.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

Meanwhile…

Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-inauguration-joe-biden-politics-ron-klain-mitch-mcconnell-45d78184ec204e0a775e0f38496ff67b

pomenitul, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

also remove them from the Guard, k thanks

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

Get him to the airport, put him on a plane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm51ihfi1p4

(I know--10 million others posting the same thing right now.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

Another affidavit of self-owning:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1356326/download

The meat of it starts around point 13. These idiots profess to be well-trained militias with all the fixings, and yet ... they take selfies, talk shit, post self-incriminating stuff on social media with easy to search hashtags. Clearly a lot of these nuts are a different kind of "too online." Like, they don't realize that posting to a platform used by hundreds of millions is tantamount to posting *to* hundreds of millions. I suppose that's the logical endpoint of morons conditioned to think the first amendment applies to their right to use Facebook and Twitter, and this goes for the soon to be former moron in chief, too.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:04 (three years ago) link

I think my favourite thing about manchin is that he’s a big centrist anti deficit brain on everything except the state of West Virginia where his view is that money is not real and anything is possible when you get down to the nut cuttin.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

xpost I'm not sure I agree w that. You could also say nonviolent protests that result in jail time are 'self ownage' i.e. well, maybe, but it's a sacrifice the participants are willing to take on the chin for a larger purpose: making the event resonate longer and more deeply. Or I could just paste this from Garbage Day (from a week ago) which makes the point better:

The ongoing success of the movement or community is determined by how viral the post-event content tail is. Stop The Steal has already succeeded in that regard. 8chan vikings and terrorist militia members were able to create such an incredible amount of content from Wednesday’s insurrection that our feeds are still awash in images and videos of it.

What’s still unclear, though, is whether or not the actual event that the months of hype have been building towards has actually happened yet or if we’re still, very much, in it.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

it's a sacrifice the participants are willing to take on the chin for a larger purpose

Maybe for some of them, but it's pretty clear that a lot of them are flabbergasted re: having to face any consequences whatsoever.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

Also, some big committee chair shifts since 2009:

Banking: Chris Dodd -> Sherrod Brown
Budget: Kent Conrad -> Bernie Sanders
Finance: Max Baucus -> Ron Wydenhttps://t.co/UkdXPfqW1C

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 19, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

this is really good news

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link

it's pretty striking how effective deplatforming Trump has been, we'd be in such a more dangerous place if he was doing 10 angry tweets an hour

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

fr

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

it's almost like moderating content is more effective than relying on the audience to ignore trolls

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

otm.

this plus that report saying twitter misinformation dropped 73% once trump (and yes, also all the lower-level q accounts) got banned

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link

He's gonna log onto some BBSes

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link

Post misinfo in the Tavern on Legend of the Red Dragon

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link

this plus that report saying twitter misinformation dropped 73% once trump (and yes, also all the lower-level q accounts) got banned

I mean, we're taking this on spec but it's not out of the realm.

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

Bill # 1:

From a violent insurrection to countless attempts to suppress votes:

Attacks on democracy have come in many forms.

The first bill the @SenateDems majority will introduce will be the #ForThePeople Act to renew democracy, end big money in politics, and tackle corruption. #S1

— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) January 19, 2021

i'm assuming this is the follow-up to the 2019 bill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.R._1_(116th_Congress)), which was passed in the house but then died of neglect in the senate

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

Government ethics. The bill would require presidential and vice-presidential candidates to disclose their previous 10 years of income tax returns, eliminate the use of taxpayer money by politicians to settle sexual harassment claims, and create a new ethics code for the U.S. Supreme Court, which is not subject to existing judicial codes of conduct.

Voting rights. The bill would create a national voter registration program, make Election Day a federal holiday, replace partisan gerrymandering with nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral districts, and limit efforts to purge voting rolls.

these are key

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

i imagine implementation of the latter will take years and probably face GOP court challenges, naturally

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

Perhaps but

Good morning to the 6-3 conservative Supreme Court. Democrats are attaching a severability clause to every section of their new democracy/ethics overhaul legislation.

From the official summary: pic.twitter.com/qxnDHiQh1o

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) January 19, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

In essence, they can't say 'oh you got this bit wrong' and use that as an excuse to remove it all.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

replace partisan gerrymandering with nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral districts
replace partisan gerrymandering with nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral districts
replace partisan gerrymandering with nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral districts
replace partisan gerrymandering with nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral districts
replace partisan gerrymandering with nonpartisan commissions to draw electoral districts

this alone is worth annihilating the filibuster over

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

morons conditioned to think the first amendment applies to their right to use Facebook and Twitter

the first amendment may not protect their access to FB or Twitter, but it does prevent the government from criminalizing their political speech. what they also failed to recognize is that conspiring to commit criminal acts against the government is not protected political speech under the first amendment.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

although i'd rather replace "nonpartisan commissions" with "a computer program"
xp

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

SimDistricting

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

wow, mcconnell has summoned the courage to admit that trump "provoked" the 1/6/21 mob

maybe he and elaine are planning to retire and move to a fortress earlier than i thought

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

GOP will fight that bill tooth and nail if for no other reason than its implementation would effectively end the GOP on the national level. And so, if for no other reason, it needs to become law, like yesterday.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

xpost a pillow fortress

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

Okay, that was low hanging fruit, but lol anyway

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

although i'd rather replace "nonpartisan commissions" with "a computer program"

From the very depths of my soul as a Black software engineer: fuck no, never automate this

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

Replacing the tempered judgment of multiple people of different backgrounds and political contexts with a number simulation coded up by Chad after he left the gym and doused himself in Axe Body Spray is a goddamned terrible idea

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

word xp

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

have we learned nothing from... all of science fiction
but seriously, yeah, it's a bad idea. a human always has to write the algorithms

Nhex, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

Replacing the tempered judgment of multiple people of different backgrounds and political contexts with a number simulation coded up by Chad after he left the gym and doused himself in Axe Body Spray is a goddamned terrible idea

lol, i mean i agree with that

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

does this mean what I think it does

https://www.facebook.com/loubegaofficial/posts/248747929950046

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

eh, i'm back at work today for the first time since last thursday, and my "part-time" job now involves doing all of the work that i previously did in 45 hours a week, just compressed into 20 hours. this way, i have a couple days off each week and don't get benefits! anyway, what i'm trying to say is i have no time to try to put forth an idea of a computer drawing district lines that makes clear that i did mean that in the most exaggerated, sci-fi dystopia way, and that i know that human beings are actually involved when computers do things. so this will have to do

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

Mambo Number 6-6-6

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

btw, though, i have this other idea, for our ILX village. you know how everyone in this village is apportioned land based on what Gary does in the secret room on his abacus? i was thinking, what if Gary revealed what he does on his abacus to divvy out the ILX land, and he did it outside, by the campfire, and also upgraded his abacus workflow to Microsoft Excel? he could even use formulas to save some time. i know this is crazy because someone is going to have to put the formulas in, and it's probably going to be a human being. but i'm thinking MAYBE a computer would address that situation where cankles got 72% of the land after getting sb'd for the millionth time, because that wouldn't make sense to a computer

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

but forgive me - again, i forget that whenever i mention a "computer" doing things, it means that no humans are involved because you just the AI the goal of creating perfect democracy, and things get out of hand, the paperclips go flying, etc

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

ok, back to my job, which is of course "continuing to be the most gigantic dumbass in the entire universe"

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

Best case scenario is the nonpartisan commission creates the districts that at least have to pass muster with some sort of computer program. I believe the litigation regarding gerrymandering frequently uses such programs to show how much a particular district varied from a basically randomly created district.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

What not to do

NEW: An 18-year veteran police officer, currently with the Houston Police Department, initially lied about entering the U.S. Capitol during the insurrection, the feds say.

They found photos and videos from inside the rotunda in his deleted images folder.https://t.co/DYJzqjqCzG

— Ryan J. Reilly (@ryanjreilly) January 19, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

McConnell's done:

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on Tuesday explicitly blamed President Donald Trump for instigating the violent Capitol riots that took place on January 6.

"The mob was fed lies," the GOP leader said on the Senate floor. "They were provoked by the president and other powerful people."

McConnell's rebuke of Trump comes as the outgoing president faces an upcoming impeachment trial in the Senate over the deadly siege at the Capitol. The top Republican has said he's currently undecided on impeachment, but he has reportedly been leaning toward convicting Trump. McConnell's move will be key to how the trial plays out, as a "yes" vote from him may encourage other Republican senators to follow suit. At least 17 GOP members, along with every Democrat, would need to sign on in order to convict Trump.

Trump was impeached last week for incitement of insurrection after his supporters breached the Capitol building while Congress was meeting to certify President-elect Joe Biden's 2020 victory.

"They tried to use fear and violence to stop a specific proceeding of the first branch of the federal government, which they did not like," McConnell said on Tuesday. "But we pressed on. We stood together and said an angry mob would not get veto power over the rule of law in our nation, not even for one night. We certified the people's choice for their 46th president."

Re: redistricting, this from FiveThirtyEight a couple years back was good:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-maps/

Jeff Wright, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link

2xpost That's what I mean by self-ownage. Left, right, wherever you fall, if you're going to do something questionable, you probably shouldn't post selfies of yourself in the act.

Speaking of self-ownage, I was in a parking lot today, and there was a giant black pick-up with a red, white and blue Punisher skull on the grill, and "Black Ops" posted above the front windshield. Is the safe to assume the owner is exactly the sort of person I would imagine the owner to be?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link

yes, the owner is in fact Kevin Sorbo

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

The 2019 Ford F-150 Black Ops is priced at $88,525.

get the fuck out of here

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

Burn:

VP Pence is not expected to attend President Trump's sendoff at Joint Air Force Base Andrews tomorrow morning, per White House officials. He is attending the inauguration later in the day, and aides say it would be logistically challenging for the vice president to do both.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) January 19, 2021

Is the safe to assume the owner is exactly the sort of person I would imagine the owner to be?

It’s probably not safe to be anywhere near that truck.

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

on the plus side, the list of people who decide to voluntarily go to a 7am asskissing session makes for a fine, ready-made shitlist

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

xps: You can build at a brand new Mercedes 2021 AMG GLC 63 SUV with all the options for less money than that.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

No, this was a DIY black ops pickup.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

XP Trumpalos waiting for the fully loaded 100K+ Mercedes Blitzkrieg Wagon.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

But you can't haul your fellow klansmen oops I mean carpentry gear in the back of an AMG

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

shocking, breaking news about marjorie greene:

In 2018, after the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), then a right-wing online commentator, spread the conspiracy theory that the massacre was a “false flag” event intended to take away people’s guns.

The comments, unearthed by Media Matters, are the latest in a long history of Greene repeating untrue claims by far-right extremists on social media.

After the Parkland shooting, which killed 17 people, Greene shared a story on Facebook about former Broward County sheriff’s deputy Scot Peterson — who was fired over his response to the shooting — receiving a retirement pension. In the comments, someone wrote, “It’s called a pay off to keep his mouth shut since it was a false flag planned shooting.” Greene replied: “Exactly.”

Media Matters also uncovered separate comments from 2018 in which Greene lied that Democrats, specifically House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (Calif.), rooted for school shootings to justify stricter gun laws.

“This war on our second amendment is going to continue and must be fought. I am told that Nancy Pelosi tells Hillary Clinton several times a month that ‘we need another school shooting’ in order to persuade the public to want strict gun control,” Greene said.

i am always amazed that the "i am told..." style of spreading bullshit actually works on other people

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link

note also that this was in 2018, so i don't know why pelosi was always calling up clinton to talk about gun control

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link

Hillary still runs the pedophile anti-gun cabal, I believe. From a cave somewhere, maybe at Obama's Bermuda kiteboarding camp.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

i wonder if the thing that is going to tip mcconnell to convict is this lmao

And it begins. This from the vice chair of the @FloridaGOP. https://t.co/vT6YGXPieZ

— Mary Ellen Klas (@MaryEllenKlas) January 19, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

I'd bet a few dollars that even fucking McConnell would prefer dealing with Pelosi.

Wouldn't Trump actually have to do some work in that position?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link

and so this is impeachment
and what have we done
another year older
a new term just begun

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link

yeah Trump would hate that job, all the pesky "votes" and the inability to issue Executive Orders, and not getting to ride in Air Force One, and nobody generally giving a shit about the job

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

Nothing in the Constitution prevents a non-elected person from serving as speaker.

(I don't think this will happen, I hasten to point out)

like wtf, his kid already said the White House was beneath him, why would he go even further "beneath his station"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

it is technically legal, just unusual and probably not going to happen

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

Can you be speaker of the house if you've been president twice?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

Why that's as crazy as a president becoming a Supreme Court justice oh wait

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

Stinker of the House

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

Yeah, but unlike the SC he'd be in the line of succession. So I assume ... no, you can't be president twice and then speaker.

Meanwhile:

Once again, McConnell is a part of the Gang of 8. He gets intelligence briefings, and knows way more than what we know on the investigation into 1/6. What he says publicly is meaningful in terms of seriousness re Trump.

— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) January 19, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

Yeah, but unlike the SC he'd be in the line of succession. So I assume ... no, you can't be president twice and then speaker.

people who aren't eligible to be president (e.g. people born outside the US) can be speaker of the house.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link

please vote for me when i run for speaker of the house.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link

xpost Would the line of succession just skip them, then?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

I am told that Nancy Pelosi tells Hillary Clinton several times a month that ‘we need another school shooting’

I asked Nancy, she told Hillary
Hillary made a false flag for me
Then Q gave a message to me

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

Where did all the Q boys go?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

it doesn't seem like there is an appetite to sweep the insurrection under the rug. mcconnell is talking this way and there are fbi billboards all over seeking information on people involved with the riot.

treeship., Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link

nice to know everything up until Violent Coup Attempt is not a dealbreaker

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link

Hope I’m wrong but my general feeling is that I’ll eat my hat if McConnell or any R senator other than Romney and maaaaybe Collins and Murkowski votes to convict.

Dan I., Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

i think you're right. mitch will vote to not convict, but his reasoning will be about national unity, against divisiveness etc. he won't defend trump on this

treeship., Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link

ben sasse will also vote to convict i think, along with collins, murkowski and romney

treeship., Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

We were just talking about what a difference having Trump off twitter makes. Just wait until he's no longer president and literally gone from DC. Like, even Pence isn't seeing him off.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

Cotton will vote to knight him

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:53 (three years ago) link

xps oh come on y'all, dream big

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:53 (three years ago) link

Toomey will also vote to convict

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

oh wait he retired

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

wait no that's not for another year

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

wait

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

i think it's good that trump is not the president no more

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

_I am told that Nancy Pelosi tells Hillary Clinton several times a month that ‘we need another school shooting’_


acshually ‘I am told’ they’re gun manufacturer/ NRA joint false flag operations murdering school kids because every time one happens sales and donations go through the roof.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

my gut feeling is that Rs won't convict but who knows, with Trump out of power and banned from all social media (therefore unable to threaten anyone who votes against him) I think it becomes easier for Rs to just memory hole him and say "yeah I guess an insurrection was actually bad". Not saying it's likely but having him off Twitter for a couple weeks has done wonders. I don't see any reason to believe that Trump is going to become a political force after tomorrow - it's more likely he's just gonna fuck off forever to Florida and call into OANN every other day.

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

i'm suddenly getting tired of forecasting the future

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

AP reporting that 10 more National Guardsmen are now bounced from inauguration duties due to ties to right wing fringe groups. They join the 2 previously mentioned from earlier vetting.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

good to see they took their oath seriously.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

it seems like the capitol is super secure for tomorrow, which is great.

treeship., Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

Cool, cool. Cool that they vetted these guys thoroughly in the first place before giving them guns.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

lol @ this from CNN

President Trump received an unsettling warning on his final Saturday night in the White House.

Huddled for a lengthy meeting with his legal advisers, Trump was warned the pardons he once hoped to bestow upon his family and even himself would place him in a legally perilous position, convey the appearance of guilt and potentially make him more vulnerable to reprisals.

So, too, was Trump warned that pardons for Republican lawmakers who had sought them for their role in the Capitol insurrection would anger the very Senate Republicans who will determine his fate in an upcoming impeachment trial.

White House counsel Pat Cipollone and another attorney who represented Trump in his first impeachment trial, Eric Herschmann, offered the grave warnings as Trump, his daughter Ivanka and her husband Jared Kushner listened. Other lawyers joined by telephone. They all told Trump he should not pardon himself, his family or any GOP lawmakers in a prospective manner unless he was prepared to list specific crimes.

Cipollone and former Attorney General William Barr both warned Trump earlier this month they did not believe he should pardon himself, multiple sources familiar with the matter told CNN last week. Barr conveyed this position to Trump before resigning last month, sources say.

Trump continued to bring the matter up in the ensuing days, even after officials believed the issue was resolved. But the sobering meeting on Saturday evening at the White House seemed the idea to rest.

While Trump often discards advice he doesn't agree with — particularly coming from Cipollone, with whom he has a fractured relationship — the message Saturday resonated. The conversation spooked Trump in a way few others have, a person familiar with his reaction told CNN.

Now, Trump will leave office muted and disheartened at being unable to wield the power he has cherished most while president. Boxed in by his own actions that helped spark the riots at the Capitol, Trump finds himself constrained in a way he mostly avoided for his entire tenure.

His final batch of pardons, due later today, is expected to contain few of the controversial or outlandish criminals that have characterized his earlier use of his clemency powers.

Trump could still change his mind, and retains his sweeping clemency powers until noon on Wednesday. Trump continues to bring up pardons that aides one thought were off the table, including for former strategy Steve Bannon, leading to general uncertainty about whether Trump will continue adhering to his lawyers' advice.

But White House officials and others familiar with the matter describe a muted President, concerned about his pending impeachment trial and swirling legal problems, who was talked out of his long-discussed notions following the Capitol insurrection.

Several Republican lawmakers who are alleged to have been involved in the rally that preceded the deadly riot on the US Capitol have sought clemency from Trump before he leaves office, but after meeting with his legal advisers for several hours on Saturday, Trump decided he would not grant them, according to two people familiar with his plans.

The fear of legal exposure is not limited to Republicans who promoted or spoke at the rally, including Reps. Andy Biggs, Mo Brooks and Paul Gosar. Those who participated, organized and fundraised for it are also concerned, sources told CNN, including his eldest son Donald Trump Jr. and his girlfriend Kimberly Guilfoyle, who both spoke at the rally.

Top figures associated with the groups that helped organize it — including Women for America First and Turning Point Action, the political action committee arm of Turning Point USA — have also voiced private concern about legal repercussions, a person familiar tells CNN.

Several of Trump's closest advisers have also urged him not to grant clemency to anyone who breached the US Capitol, despite Trump's initial stance that those involved had done nothing wrong.

As CNN has previously reported, one of the top organizers of the movement that aimed to overturn the election results claimed he worked closely with Republican congressmen. Ali Alexander, a leader of the "Stop the Steal" group, said in several livestream videos he planned the rally with Gosar and two other congressional Republicans, Mo Brooks of Alabama and Andy Biggs of Arizona.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link

I mean why not just round up a contingent of random civilians and have them guard the inauguration? Seems like you might have roughly the same success rate wrt having mostly people who don't want to actively kill the incoming president.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

boebert? i think you mean babe-ert

A new arrest today — a woman with a bullhorn at the Capitol turns out to be a business owner in Beverly Hills, CA who confirmed her attendance by tweet, posted video of herself, and gave a 2h interview about her participation to the Beverly Hills Courier. https://t.co/C7bii5N0kn pic.twitter.com/OwQUWbMMiB

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 19, 2021

satanist of size (map), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:04 (three years ago) link

xpost I feel you but we're talking 12 people out of 25,000

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

If you don't want the dude who organized the Stop the Steal rally to be pardoned, just show his picture to Trump

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link

is this *the* "bullhorn lady"?

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

having second thoughts about that link, sorry

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link

“I was being portrayed on Yelp as a terrorist,” she said. “I wanted to clear my name. Everyone in Beverly Hills knows I’m not—I am a Christian.”

fucking lol

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link

never apologize for that link, it is very lol

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

it is true

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

Bisignano said she called the FBI on the morning of Jan. 12, but was placed on hold and had to go to work before she spoke with anyone.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

where is Ned to say "pobrecito"

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

Is there any scope to get right of presidential pardons altogether

It just seems like something an actual working country shouldnt have,

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

Includes this quote pic.twitter.com/YVNOQomYAI

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 19, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

/rid xp

spaghetti connemara (darraghmac), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

sorry xpost

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

I mean sorry to her, I did not know she was a Christian, we're good now.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

it's not THE bullhorn lady, it's *another* bullhorn lady.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

thank you! good to clarify.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

these people really fucked up trump's life, lol

treeship., Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

it is so fucking sweet to watch them smash headfirst into the wall of consensus reality

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

I really wish they'd get *the* bullhorn lady because I expect it'll be hilarious

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

St Peter was a christian who denied his saviour too, story checks out

Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

Loads of great quotes in that, but my favorite is “And I’m like, I didn’t know we were storming the Capitol. I should have dressed different.”

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

jesus how many bullhorn ladies were there

satanist of size (map), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

A: all of them

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

It’s pobrecita for a woman.

scampopo (suzy), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

only 20, but everybody who heard them formed an angry mob

Un tranquillo posto di scampagna (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

irl lols, thank u all

(suzy, noted! I shoulda caught that)

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

lmao

satanist of size (map), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

“We the people are not going to take it anymore. You are not going to take away our Trumpy-bear, you are not going to take away our votes and our freedom that I thank God for. This is 1776 and we the people will never give up. We will never let our country go to the globalists. George Soros, you can go to hell,” she adds.

fucking lol: the quickening

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

“I was caught up, I was scared, I was excited,” Bisignano told the Courier. “A guy said to say that over the megaphone. I don’t even remember saying it.” She also said that there was fighting going on in the crowd, which she attributed to “antifa and BLM.” “We were being beat up by other people,” she said.

Just one giant run-on of deflection greatest hits. Depressing. The Family Circus "not me" meme is too close to home for these folk.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_x6QmuJdms

treeship., Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link

has ghislaine maxwell been pardoned yet?

StanM, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

An angry mob could break down my door and drag me out into the street for execution right now and my last words would be "'Trumpy-bear' tho"

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

lol DJP

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

All these folks who watched Trump get away with shitting his britches every day for four years and thought it would be a great idea to violently snap off their own social regulation safety catch...should we just consider them feral at this point? Like I don't see them ever tempering their mania sufficiently to ever again contribute to society in any meaningful way. We should just create like a game preserve for them or something, let them scream 'SOOOOOOROOOOOS!' through a bullhorn at cars as they drive through.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

where is Ned to say "pobrecito"

It was implied.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

Fucker Carlson: “Unmistakably,” he said, “the Democratic party is using those troops to send the rest of us a message about power: ‘We’re in charge now. We run this nation, from Honolulu to our colony in the Caribbean and everywhere in between, very much including where you and your family live. Do not question us men with guns. We control the Pentagon.’ And indeed, they do.”

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

Indeed they do!

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

Unmistakeably.

“I was caught up, I was scared, I was excited”

This is like the poster tag to some erotic thriller exploitation flick. Like "Angel V: Capitol Offense."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

seems like the kind of message you'd probably want to send after someone attempted a mass slaughter of your legislative bodies and VP

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

BREAKING --> Fox News political editor Chris Stirewalt was laid off today alongside just under 20 Fox News staffers. Stirewalt sat on the Fox News decision desk, which has come under fire for its early call on Arizona election night. Story forthcoming...

— Sarah Ellison (@sarahellison) January 19, 2021

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

I'd read somewhere that the Fox decision desk is somewhat independent and actually sort of respected for their calls... oh well, time to purge.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

their polling operation's supposed to be excellent too

"Respect? ResPECT!? We can't have a whiff of that stench about the place, begone with them all Jenkins and make it snappy!"

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

Some last spasms. I do wonder how they'll recalibrate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/increasingly-militant-parler-refugees-anxious-qanon-adherents-prep-doomsday-n1254775

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

I assume the decision desk thing is meant to be distancing Fox from what is seen by their viewers as their most liberal arm.

But it may just be part of the broader decision since the election to essentially stop news coverage and go full opinion. (There’s now no news shows after 7pm IIUC)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

Why bother having a decision desk if the Republicans can no longer lose an election?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

Pundits are cheap as chips, that's the way to go

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link

Is there any scope to get (rid) of presidential pardons altogether

Because the pardon power is granted in the original US constitution, it can only be changed via amendment, which requires massive consensus among Congress and state legislatures. So, no.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

those pundits have big contracts but it’s still cheaper than running an actual news operation and i’m guessing many of them get bigger numbers so it’s kind of a no-brainer

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

xpost And I assume the same thing would be required for instituting a congressional veto or something.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

“I was caught up, I was scared, I was excited”

these are the lyrics to "I Know Things Now" from Into the Woods, paraphrased

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

re: that NBC article that Ned posted - I sure will be glad when it's Thursday

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

the fervor of belief recalls millenialism

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

Can radically alter the tone just with an ellipses:

“I was caught up, I was scared, I was ... excited.”

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

Some last spasms. I do wonder how they'll recalibrate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/increasingly-militant-parler-refugees-anxious-qanon-adherents-prep-doomsday-n1254775

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:58 PM bookmarkflaglink

it's gonna be like that season finale of Sleeper Cell where the head of the cell goes to blow up a baseball stadium, realizes the bomb's been disabled by an undercover cop, so he just hilariously runs out of the vehicle and starts shooting a pistol and is quickly and harmlessly slammed down onto the field

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link

I will say it again, I REALLY wonder about the 21st. I've seen some pivoting moves claiming a greater plan at work but otherwise the reports are saying a lot of people are absolutely dead-set for certain on the 20th. Of course any number of them will find a way to squeak past that but the ones that don't...gonna be ugly, I think.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link

the Guard is gonna be posted in Washington until end of Jan, right?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

Doubt it? Maybe a short carryover but I'd expect most troops to head home by the weekend.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:34 (three years ago) link

I saw this bit from a Military Times article about the deployments, not sure what this will mean in reality but it sounds like it could set up for at least some continuing coverage.

The length of the missions may vary, but Defense Department officials were authorized to deploy the Guard for up to 30 days for the inauguration and surrounding protests.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link

tired of predicting the future

Feeling that. It is nearly impossible to solve a problem until you can see its shape and size. I know it's out there and I can see some of its manifestations, but I'm not in a good position to grasp its exact dimensions or direction. So, where things go from here is a dark mystery to me, other than it will involve some extremely delusional people who may become violent.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link

Maybe Trump will postpone The Great Reckoning & Executions until after St Valentines Day, so as not to disrupt dinner plans, vacation getaways, etc.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link

Most of this speculation abt pardons in meaningless—we almost certainly won’t know the full list because he is under no obligation to disclose it. He can pardon himself and his whole family and Ghislaine Maxwell or whoever secretly, which wld only come to light later in the event of a prosecution.

In the short-term this insulates him from any political blowback.

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

we obv desperately need legislation around pardons ASAP

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

This fucking guy: Washington (CNN) With one day left in his tenure, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo took to his taxpayer-funded Twitter account and denounced multiculturalism, saying it is "not who America is."
"Woke-ism, multiculturalism, all the -isms — they're not who America is. They distort our glorious founding and what this country is all about. Our enemies stoke these divisions because they know they make us weaker," he wrote Tuesday.

I hope he ends up selling time shares in Sarasota Springs or something... never want to hear his name again.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

I hope he ends up destitute on a raft slowly drifting out into the Pacific

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link

Another local boy!

A Miami member of the extremist Proud Boys group who once ran unsuccessfully for elected office was arrested early Tuesday on allegations he took part in the Jan. 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol.

Gabriel Garcia made his first appearance in federal court Tuesday as a criminal complaint against him was unsealed. He is being charged with engaging in acts of civil disorder, entering restricted grounds and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds.

According to a criminal complaint, Garcia, 40, recorded and uploaded a series of Facebook videos of himself inside the Capitol along with others in the mob.

“We just went ahead and stormed the Capitol. It’s about to get ugly,” he says in the video.

The complaint alleges that Garcia yelled at U.S. Capitol police, calling them “f---ing traitors” and “USA! Storm this sh-t!”

In one video, he also yells out “Nancy come out and play!” — an apparent reference to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who is a frequent target of supporters of President Donald Trump. He also says “Free Enrique,” a reference to Enrique Tarrio, the Miami leader of the Proud Boys who was arrested days before the insurrection in Washington, D.C., according to the complaint.

i am gonna jack it every time one of these idiots gets arrested

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

tired: Neanderthal's junk
wired: Neanderthal's wrist

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:01 (three years ago) link

Re the last-day pardon flurry, is Trump the lazy fuck really going to be able to sign 60+ pieces of paper in a row. Seems like an lot of effort.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

@DailyMail

EXCLUSIVE: Death Row Records co-founder Michael 'Harry-O' Harris' has been pardoned by President Trump

mookieproof, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

I think Lil Wayne got one too

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

Yo we bus drivers
Cos we commute time

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link

real g's move in silence like presigdential pardons

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

lol

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

This just in: Gabriel Garcia has been sentenced to 100 years of solitude

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link

Some last spasms. I do wonder how they'll recalibrate.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/increasingly-militant-parler-refugees-anxious-qanon-adherents-prep-doomsday-n1254775

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, January 19, 2021 3:58 PM bookmarkflaglink

without being too downbeat: there's millions of Seventh-day Adventists 180 years after Miller's prophecies didn't come true

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, _When Prophecy Fails_ etc, but still, different people do different things.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

I don't think the cult of Trump will go away completely. He will continue to say that the election was stolen and they will beleive that Biden is an illegitimate president controlled by China. But when we actually don't all become godless communists and trumps only secret power turns out to be fleecing his own followers, they'll end up as more of a fandom than a religion.

BrianB, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:54 (three years ago) link

ok you gonna pardon Joe Exotic or not

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link

the cult of Trump existed before Trump - they aren't going anywhere.

these are the same people who screamed "NUKE EM" re: Afghanistan the day after 9/11

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link

if anything, Trump borrowed his beliefs from Breitbart and The Blaze - he just packaged them in his own unique terrible way.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:57 (three years ago) link

Maybe someone can maintain a Wikipedia page of who the “true” president should be, descended from Trump dynasty, like people who maintain the House of Wittelsbach still technically holds the throne of the Roman Empire etc

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

I don't think the cult of Trump will go away completely. He will continue to say that the election was stolen and they will beleive that Biden is an illegitimate president controlled by China. But when we actually don't all become godless communists and trumps only secret power turns out to be fleecing his own followers, they'll end up as more of a fandom than a religion.

will be interesting to see where things go in a few months, with Trump out of power and still banned from social media. he's lazy and has burned every bridge available & I wonder if GOP Senators are gonna be thinking about that when they vote to convict. certainly there will always be a sizeable pocket of fascists but Trumpism seems like such a poor election strategy going forward - even with every possible thumb on the scale they still got trounced by Joe fucking Biden of all people, they managed to lose a Senate seat in Alabama, they lost TWO in Georgia, they got creamed in the midterms and they underperformed in every special election since Trump was elected. and the only reason Trump was elected in the first place was because of Electoral College magic + the most perfectly timed October Surprise in history. I see people on the right asking repeatedly "how the hell did 81 million people vote for Joe Biden?", well...now you know

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link

"Failed upward," huh. Wonder where I've heard that before.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

Oh Randpaws...

no good sentence starts like this pic.twitter.com/onAfDpYkn9

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 19, 2021

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 19 January 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link

Shots I've seen of the covid memorials on the mall look really beautiful and sad, especially following such a total lack of empathy.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link

Re: redistricting, this from FiveThirtyEight a couple years back was good:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/redistricting-maps/

― Jeff Wright

thanks for this, Jeff! i'm looking at various states/scenarios right now, it's great. i don't understand how they did this without a computer, but that's why they're the pros!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 23:52 (three years ago) link

A thread of WTF

This is apparently the “100% evidence” Mike Lindell is relying on to claim Dominion voting systems were “hacked” by foreign adversaries. It’s a screed from a crank site called The American Report, obviously written by tech illiterates, containing no actual evidence. pic.twitter.com/Ira1roM3Ms

— Julian Sanchez (@normative) January 19, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 January 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link

these motherfuckers can't crash and burn fast enough for me, let's make popcorn

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:02 (three years ago) link

BUsboys and poets is having an inauguration eve celebration on youtuibe and Facebook right now. Mainly black figures, politicians, activists, poets etc and a bit of music.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link

Re the last-day pardon flurry, is Trump the lazy fuck really going to be able to sign 60+ pieces of paper in a row. Seems like an lot of effort.

have you not seen his signature

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link

xpost he doesn't sign with his *hand*

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

#BREAKING: This morning, special agents and officers assigned to #FBI Boston's Joint Terrorism Task Force arrested without incident Mark G. Sahady, of Malden, MA, & Suzanne Ianni, of Natick, MA, for their alleged roles in connection with the riots at the U.S. Capitol.

— FBI Boston (@FBIBoston) January 19, 2021

Apparently this was the same guy that organized that dumbass Boston “straight pride” parade so, on brand to be a complete piece of shit I guess.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:29 (three years ago) link

Checking in on MyPillow’s Mike Lindell... https://t.co/6RZ0hyMFAN pic.twitter.com/y2zbzrTHJq

— Allan Smith (@akarl_smith) January 19, 2021

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link

they’re taking their country back

back to the stone age

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link

Wait till Neanderthal sees this.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

"Raw Data Analytics"?? this shit is for real

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link

raw, given to us with no trivia

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link

I like how Pompeo now considers himself somewhat of an authority on "woke-ism"

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link

Of course he is: he's white, a secretary of state, and former CIA director.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:49 (three years ago) link

He also used to roadie for Urban Dance Squad back in the day

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

a lighter shade of soul

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link

rank pompeo's qualifications:

white
man
christian

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

pompeo took an important stand against multiculturalism today, what a great leader

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

Make American White Again!

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:21 (three years ago) link

Embrace the monoculture of bland cafeteria food and endless Paul Blart sequels!

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

these guys are leaving tomorrow

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

xp Paul Blart is an uplifting tale of everyman triumph, the opposite of failing upward IMO. unfair comparison.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link

it's also easy shorthand for classist contempt,, but I'm gonna assume that's not what you were going for there

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:38 (three years ago) link

these guys are leaving tomorrow

this really is helping, tonight, knowing this

they'll still have some power, but not the constitutionally recognized kind

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link

was gonna say that going at the Paul Blart creators is almost certainly punching up, but wtf it was written by the voice of Salem the Cat on the Sabrina The Teenage Witch sitcom, and directed by the half of Def Jam's classic-era sleeve design team who wasn't Cey Adams??!?!?

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

you lost me, buddy. the dude loves his daughter, that's all I remember. plus, he rides some kind of scooter thing and kicks ass

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:52 (three years ago) link

good...good....let the hate flow through you

NEW: Trump has talked to associates in recent days about starting a new party after he leaves the White House.

He wants to call it the Patriot Party.https://t.co/16w6YYhHdE

— Andrew Restuccia (@AndrewRestuccia) January 20, 2021

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link

I honestly think this is him trying to fracture the Senate GOP to prevent a vote against him. Which is still stupid and hilarious.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:56 (three years ago) link

lol fantastic

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

LOL the first thing that caught my eye when I read through that FBI Boston tweet was NATICK / crosswords.

Sammy Agar-Agar (Leee), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link

lol that is great. may the patriot party cleave the republican share of the vote in half in every state in the union.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link

I honestly think this is him trying to create his army of orcs.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link

Hmm, so who throws him off the tower at the end. (Yes yes I know, film version rather than book.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:06 (three years ago) link

All the more reason for McConnell & co. to support conviction, so a simple majority can subsequently disqualify Donnie from ever running again.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:06 (three years ago) link

that works for me too

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

well shit i went 4 years without knowing who randy rainbow was just to blow it on the last day
horrible

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link

this is all so enjoyable, however fleetingly

bye fuckface!

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link

xxp don’t see the Republican Party fracturing that easily

Dan S, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

Trump has zero idea what kind of expertise and organization it would take to create a new political party larger and more potent than the current Libertarian Party, which can't seem to elect anyone. Or, if he does understand how much work it would be, then this is just Yet Another Attention Attraction Ploy that has no substance behind it. Sadly, it seems destined to remain political vaporware, although maybe he could extract tens of millions of dollars from his ardent orcs, before he abandons it.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

Yeah he’s more of a “say something and hope other people do it” kinda guy

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link

I dunno...I think some of that old school "ground game" stuff got shown up this time around

he just needs to have people who will vote for him instead of someone else

no one thought he could build a campaign either

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link

i think whoever said he is trying to scare off mcconnell from voting to convict is correct. he is floating this in the media to dare the republicans to kick him out, as he would take his followers (such as they are) with him. it could easily backfire by convincing the senate repubs that he needs to be barred from office for life (best outcome)

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link

i think trump is going to get a show on oan or newsmax or something and then that will be it.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link

he'll be too obsessive and monotonous for viewers though so he'll just fail at this. i don't see him pulling in as many viewers as tucker or whatever. that is my prediction for the rest of his career.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link

Trump will be dead by the next election cycle. The next several years will destroy him.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link

depends on how many lawsuits and criminal trials are actually coming

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link

predictions of death always turn out wrong

Dan S, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link

Anyway I think KT's thread here isn't far off, ultimately.

the thing about trump building a new political party is everyone knows he can’t build anything worth a shit but he can sure as hell wreck an existing one like a tomahawk missile strike. have fun!

— kilgore trout, brad r’s brother (@KT_So_It_Goes) January 20, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link

My guess is that the main thing he's learned about political parties is that they are excellent money-laundering operations. A political party set up as a multi-level marketing scheme could be worth some money before it all went to hell and everyone involved except him went to jail.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:39 (three years ago) link

My sympathy meter is not very high here. But, worth a read, however exculpatory.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/qanon-trump-ezra-cohen-watnick-460520

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:44 (three years ago) link

no one thought he could build a campaign either

much easier to do when you've got a political party flush with cash from ridiculously wealthy donors. not to mention the fact that the same networks falling over themselves to give him as much free airtime as possible won't even let him speak live anymore

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:50 (three years ago) link

Probably everyone has seen this, but a dunk is s dunk.

Don’t forget to dress warm tomorrow.

I heard it’s going to be minus 45.

— Travis Akers (@travisakers) January 20, 2021

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link

Charlie P., cracking wise and a little hopeful at the moment:
But the most interesting hearing was that of Janet Yellen, the nominee to lead the Treasury Department. Yellen is nobody's idea of a socialist. (Well, she might be Josh Hawley's idea of a socialist, but then again, so was the barista who got his order wrong Monday morning.) Nevertheless, she called for some seriously big government to meet the current crises.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a35257873/janet-yellen-treasury-hearing-deficit-national-debt/

dow, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link

Q Anon is so fucked. Choose your own adventure, but it all ends up leading a repackaged "blood libel" narrative.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link

predictions of death always turn out wrong

can we check the maths on this

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:05 (three years ago) link

xp You mean, the original blood libel against the Jews, or the way Palin applied it to herself when associated w shooting of Gabby Giffords and others that day, just because of her get-out-the-vote rhetoric and visuals? Do Qanon fans think they're being picked on? Hearing that from some other Trump followers online & and on air.

dow, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link

xp i din wanna say but

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link

i think Q Anon is repackaged antisemitism. they lure people in but that is the story at the heart of it, one that is old and familiar.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:10 (three years ago) link

Yeah, eventually someone will say Rothschild. Or Soros, who's the new Rothschild. I think sometimes people who repeat those things are only vaguely if at all aware of the connotations, but that doesn't make it any better. They're still serving as vehicles.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:18 (three years ago) link

Will irish ilxors enjoy an improvement status on the board under seosamh i wonder

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link

Soros, who's the new Rothschild.

otmfm

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:38 (three years ago) link

Bannon to be pardoned

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:53 (three years ago) link

is that official? because fuck that

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 03:58 (three years ago) link

links are cool on the internet!

News w @PamelaBrownCNN — Trump has decided to pardon Steve Bannon in a last-minute decision made hours before he’s scheduled to leave the WH. Officials cautioned CNN Trump's decision is not final until he signs the paperwork but Trump has told people he’s decided to pardon Bannon

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) January 20, 2021

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:05 (three years ago) link

the word "transactional" doesn't begin to convey the abysmal depth of his corruption

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:05 (three years ago) link

Allegedly he keeps going back and forth. I guess my question is, is the idea that he gets pardoned but the rest of the people indicted with him...don't?

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:06 (three years ago) link

Trump should pardon Biden.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link

some state should charge him with something, even if it's as menial as loitering at the Cuckservative Hut

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:10 (three years ago) link

multiple shirts violations

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link

given he's under federal investigation for fraud, it's hard to see how he didn't also commit a bunch of state crimes.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:14 (three years ago) link

i'm sure he ripped some tags off of mattresses

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:16 (three years ago) link

Can't rule out Bannon having some kompromat of his own.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link

The odds of these turds not committing more crimes in the next few years, while they still have even a sliver of the spotlight, are practically nil. From Trump on down. It'll be like OJ after he was acquitted.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:20 (three years ago) link

i wonder which of them is going to die first

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:21 (three years ago) link

all of them, in a Guyana Punch Line-esque sendoff

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:22 (three years ago) link

what is this with expecting people you hate are going to die

Dan S, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:37 (three years ago) link

They will

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:38 (three years ago) link

Unless you know something I don't

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:39 (three years ago) link

Allegedly he keeps going back and forth. I guess my question is, is the idea that he gets pardoned but the rest of the people indicted with him...don't?

i think he was advised not to pardon anyone related to the 1/6/21 events, which eliminated a lot of people that were also related to other very obvious crimes

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:39 (three years ago) link

A hate read for those who enjoy such things:

Stephen Miller’s going away note to his colleagues tonight, passed along by source: pic.twitter.com/PVDEfmSdOL

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) January 20, 2021

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:44 (three years ago) link

what is this with expecting people you hate are going to die

― Dan S, Tuesday, January 19, 2021 11:37 PM bookmarkflaglink

are you the dude from The Man from Earth?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 04:53 (three years ago) link

good morning

sean gramophone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:03 (three years ago) link

Pardoning Bannon is obviously terrible, but it's also almost poetic. If you were writing the play, that's how it has to end, Trump pardoning Bannon.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:06 (three years ago) link

I give this lengthy joy of a thread. (Remember the lawyer at the insurance firm who was one of the first people identified/trashed on social media because he was so SO blatantly open about it, and who was almost immediately fired? He filed a thing. It's...a lot.)

OK. I promised you a thread on this batshit insane "Keep Trump as President for Life" lawsuit so here it is. The short summary is: "We think there may have been election law violations, so obviously there is no government" https://t.co/dQIuLBAvju

— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) January 20, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:07 (three years ago) link

Pardoning Bannon is obviously terrible, but it's also almost poetic. If you were writing the play, that's how it has to end, Trump pardoning Bannon.

Chekhov’s Pardon.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:08 (three years ago) link

Interested to see what sort of spin the trumpistas put on this. I mean what could anyone possible say? He's pardoned the guy because he may prove useful in the future, that's it. It's beyond corrupt and hopefully will alienate some of the GOP senators

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:14 (three years ago) link

Thanks for that Ned. Stunning how out of it these people are.

Also: good morning!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:25 (three years ago) link

Bannon's going to be the first to die after he blows up a Malibu rental cooking crank in the bathroom.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:28 (three years ago) link

Bannon gonna regrow his fur and take another shot at stardom in the funnies

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:31 (three years ago) link

Pardoning Bannon is obviously terrible, but it's also almost poetic. If you were writing the play, that's how it has to end, Trump pardoning Bannon.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, January 19, 2021

pardoning bannon for scamming maga donors... it's too perfect.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:41 (three years ago) link

This man's whole life is in shambles because he got mad at Seth Meyers and Barack Obama roasting him. Could've just been grifting in peace for the rest of his life. Whole family hated. Ruined his teen son's life. Just incredible.

— Brandi, Kemi Talbot's Chief Of Staff 😾 (@ItsTheBrandi) January 20, 2021

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 05:43 (three years ago) link

Lmao he pardoned Lil Wayne

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 06:09 (three years ago) link

AND Kodak Black

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 06:09 (three years ago) link

73 pardons, 70 commutations. I don't doubt the theory that he'll save a few of the biggest for tomorrow, as a way to hijack a few last-minute headlines.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 06:13 (three years ago) link

That was an epic trump takedown thread

I don’t find this pardon list very surprising or even that objectionable. Bannon ripped off rubes who deserved to lose their money. I’m sure he’ll do something else illegal soon anyway

akm, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 06:19 (three years ago) link

Bannon ripped off rubes who deserved to lose their money.

people's capacity to rationalize is a bottomless well

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 06:20 (three years ago) link

The full list:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-regarding-executive-grants-clemency-012021/

As I scrolled through the names, I initially read Lou Hobbs as Lou Dobbs--seemed to make sense. The explanation attached to Bannon is very short and oddly unpersuasive.

President Trump granted a full pardon to Stephen Bannon. Prosecutors pursued Mr. Bannon with charges related to fraud stemming from his involvement in a political project. Mr. Bannon has been an important leader in the conservative movement and is known for his political acumen.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 07:00 (three years ago) link

He's known for having a face that could scrub a meat slicer

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 07:08 (three years ago) link

Oh well if he’s known for his political acumen...

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 07:09 (three years ago) link

This is fine

Dr. Scott Harkonen – President Trump granted a full pardon Dr. Scott Harkonen. Dr. Harkonen was convicted of fraud based on a misleading caption in a press release with respect to a treatment for a disease. Dr. Harkonen is world renowned for his discovery of a new kidney disease, as well as its cause and treatment. Dr. Harkonen looks forward to returning to medicine.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 07:12 (three years ago) link

of course hed pardon a HARKONNEN

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 07:14 (three years ago) link

Harkonen
Bienvenue
Pardon

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 07:44 (three years ago) link

in no way applauding the monster but there are a good deal of pardons to non-violent drug offenders. Notable pardons are unsurprising trash.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 07:49 (three years ago) link

So glad Bannon saw the error of his ways and has had the time to feel remorse. Hope he's not going to feel so instutionalsed by his long prison stay that he goes out to commit more crimes to get himself reincarcerated. Do hope that wouldn't be true of any of his buddies either.

I mean old habits die hard and all.
Are bookies running odds yet.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 07:52 (three years ago) link

So, by issuing these pardons, does Trump metaphorically take on the guilt of those pardoned?

(I know..)

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 08:07 (three years ago) link

Focusing on entirely the wrong thing, I know, but smh a bit at "last-minute decision made hours before he’s scheduled to leave the WH".

anatol_merklich, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 09:29 (three years ago) link

in the list of pardons I initially mixed up Pelletier with (Leonard) Peltier, but no.

StanM, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 09:55 (three years ago) link

very badly conceived sentence, but about as late as he could email "URGENT" to subordinates, regardless of what time the bloke in the rentavan comes around to take the boxes marked "kitchen stuff" and "blankets" the next morning

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 09:55 (three years ago) link

That thread above about how trump ruined his life because he was butthurt over being sonned by Obama in a press correspondents dinner beef is intriguing, because the main thrust of that YOU DECIDE documentary that ran just before the 2016 election on US TV laid also out that moment as Trump's motivating moment, the cataclysm that set him on course for the presidency, and it's interesting how quickly everything has fallen apart for him - and how, for so many of us, that falling apart wasn't necessarily inevitable. That moment, now seen as the engine of Trump's destruction, was for four or so years regarded as the motivator for his success.

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:02 (three years ago) link

Thanks, Obama

StanM, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:19 (three years ago) link

He should pardon Obama.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:30 (three years ago) link

Pardon Hunter Biden

J.G Ballard otm (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:32 (three years ago) link

Pardon Hillary

J.G Ballard otm (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:33 (three years ago) link

pardon mimannas
pardon ididinteeru

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link

also good morning!

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:47 (three years ago) link

happy infrastructure week!

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link

pardon naymwa
pardon urztail

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:20 (three years ago) link

Pardoning hilary wouldve been great in several directions tbf

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:30 (three years ago) link

I just saw a couple female Navy sailors in full formal regalia standing outside N33ra Tanden’s house. Ready to escort her downtown. Pretty exciting!!

tobo73, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:36 (three years ago) link

Y'all.

Today's the day.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

CNN’s Jim Acosta at Joint Base Andrews, site of Trump farewell rally & departure via Air Force One: ‘There’s no crowd at all here. This might be the smallest Trump rally ever.’

Event was called for audience arrival by 7:15 am.

As of 7:35 am, many more flags than spectators.

— (((Charles Fishman))) (@cfishman) January 20, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link

You can't raise a stain back up when he's in defeat

up-the-arts corner (Matt #2), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:53 (three years ago) link

Good morning!!!

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:54 (three years ago) link

Good morning, everyone

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:56 (three years ago) link

Apparently Acosta is flying on AF1 with Trump to Florida?

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 12:58 (three years ago) link

They took the frames!

Empty picture frames (night before inauguration 2017) and empty wall - no frames this time- in same spot (night before inauguration 2021)... pic.twitter.com/Moez0nbBUA

— Jim Acosta (@Acosta) January 20, 2021

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:00 (three years ago) link

There's a 2 metre red carpet for Trump between the front door and the lawn.

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:05 (three years ago) link

I hereby inaugur this day. I'm going to inaugur like's it 19-2021.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:06 (three years ago) link

The list of actions formally released early Wednesday by his transition team also includes a directive to rejoin the World Health Organization. Biden will dispatch Anthony S. Fauci, the nation’s top infectious-disease official, to speak at the international group’s executive board meeting on Thursday.

On immigration, Biden will also nullify the Trump administration’s directive that attempted to exclude the counting of noncitizens from the U.S. census.

On climate change, Biden plans to sign an order revoking the permit, issued by the Trump administration, that allowed for the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline. He will also issue an order to rejoin the Paris climate accord, and the United States will officially be part of the 189-country climate agreement in 30 days.

On racial equity issues, Biden plans to rescind the “1776 Commission” established by the Trump administration, which the outgoing president framed last year as a “pro-American curriculum that celebrates the truth” about U.S. history but which the incoming administration says tries to erase the racial scars of America’s past.

Other directives Biden plans to sign Wednesday signal his priorities, including an order that will require masks on all federal grounds, one of several measures aimed at stemming the pandemic.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link

He just boarded Marine One with Melania One.

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:15 (three years ago) link

Did Nixon ever return to the WH, even once, for so much as a photo opp?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:19 (three years ago) link

Because the only way this turd is ever returning is in a wheel chair in the stages of something so advanced he doesn't know where he is.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:19 (three years ago) link

Great morning!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link

I don't think Nixon ever did, no.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link

He did -- Reagan snuck him in early '87 to discuss Soviet policy.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:22 (three years ago) link

Didn't know that (or that Reagan solicited him: always thought it was the way around, with everyone--unsolicited phone calls).

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:23 (three years ago) link

It was the moment when the Reagan-Gorby defrosting continued and the conservative backlash had begun.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GM-dzJtY7Fk

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:26 (three years ago) link

"Gloria" again. "Cursing the dead that can't answer him back"--he finally figured out it was safer, from a legal standpoint, to use music by dead people.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:32 (three years ago) link

I was just listening to a podcast talking about how a lot of other incumbencies would have spaced their actions out over longer time. like one significant thing a day whereas the new one has just announced a load of things on the first day. BUt it seems like there is so much negative that is leftover from t that they are having to try to clear up so much of it so fast. Can probably announce positive steps they are taking in their own light at the p[ace one might be used to but there's just so much mess to deal with before they can really move on.
Hope it all goes smoothly and Hawley and others don't do their best to compound the mess they made.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:34 (three years ago) link

https://t.co/F7EAlqXXh8 pic.twitter.com/4leRZ27f7w

— Eugene Scott (@Eugene_Scott) January 20, 2021

Had to get one last round of evil in before he left, though this reeks of Pence’s special touch. Good fucking riddance.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:37 (three years ago) link

"We created a new force called Space Force."

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:38 (three years ago) link

lol he's just rambling

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:40 (three years ago) link

"Very complex--be careful."

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link

"The numbers will sky rocket downwards"

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link

jesus christ re the homophobic hate orders - just full nazi

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link

"The future of this country has never been better."

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link

"The future has never been better."

K-Punk Donald Trump

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link

lol xp

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link

"Have a good life"

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:45 (three years ago) link

BYE BITCH

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:45 (three years ago) link

damn like 200 people there

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:45 (three years ago) link

So, uh, have a good life--see you, gotta go!"

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:45 (three years ago) link

Young man, there's a place you can go
I said, young man, when you're short on your dough
You can stay there, and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:47 (three years ago) link

'YMCA' as his exit theme is pretty funny

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:47 (three years ago) link

clemenza - I literally lol'd at "very complex - be careful"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link

Is it not odd in itself that Acosta would be chosen to cover the t departure. I didn't think there was much love lost between the 2 parties. MIght have thought that t might still have some sway over who didn't get to cover him. But was he invited like the moochwas to the leaving do? Is he actually even more pathetic about who he's reaching out to right now than might be immediately obvious.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link

"I have to go now. My planet needs me."

Number None, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link

(xpost) He even punctuated it with a hand gesture representing complexity.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link

I wonder how Gays for Trump feel about this.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:53 (three years ago) link

A thread of coping weirdness.

Today is Inauguration Day. It will be a milestone day for QAnon supporters. We may see splintering as Biden takes office between those realizing QAnon isn't real & those doubling down & moving the goalposts. Here's a poll from a QAnon Telegram channel today suggesting a divide. pic.twitter.com/CDdG2vm5ZD

— Alex Kaplan (@AlKapDC) January 20, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

I just wanna take a moment and really feel this.

He's gone. No more President Trump. There were times that it felt like I might not survive to see this glorious day.

I mean, yeah, he left a lot of shitty, broken things in his wake, but still.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:58 (three years ago) link

Peace out, you monster.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link

But Old Lunch, do you not trust the plan?

The new deadline for QAnon followers is when Biden steps up to take the presidential oath.

He - alongside Hillary, Obama, Pelosi and Schumer - will be arrested by the military and taken to an underground base to face a military tribunal which will be live on all TV networks. pic.twitter.com/XoxpLUN7C5

— Shayan Sardarizadeh (@Shayan86) January 20, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:04 (three years ago) link

Oh wow, CNN is saying Trump left a letter for Biden. Can't wait.

Alba, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

Air Force One took off to "My Way," as the Bidens walked into St. Matthew's for mass.

And...scene.

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

Oh wow, CNN is saying Trump left a letter for Biden. Can't wait.


Yes, just one letter...Q.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:09 (three years ago) link

Biden: (laughing) “I didn’t know that the previous occupant of this office was a Bond fan”

Xpost

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

These are the prepared remarks we received before Trump’s speech. He was planning to mention @PresElectBiden and @KamalaHarris by name and even wish them well, but he did not.

In fact, his actual speech was completely off this script: pic.twitter.com/LBODyeQG7E

— Weijia Jiang (@weijia) January 20, 2021

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:11 (three years ago) link

Sadly, I don't think it was a coincidence that there were 17 flags behind Trump. Whatta fuckin' tool, good riddance to rotten trash.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:12 (three years ago) link

Is Biden the only one who can make what's in this letter public? I've got to believe it's more or less "very complex--be careful" (and if not that, a celebration of Space Force). We may never know.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:13 (three years ago) link

17 flags? idgi

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

Letter leaked:

“I do not believe any man in America gets more calls from women wanting to see him, meet him, or go out with him. The most beautiful women, the most successful women—all women love Donald Trump.”

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

xpost Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link

xpost put more simply, Ladies Love Q Shames

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link

https://glennstanton.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/hqdefault-1.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link

Goddamit

https://glennstanton.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/hqdefault-1.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link

"We built it twice."

"As bad as the pandemic was."

"Thank you for your love."

Oh my god, fuck these horrible horrible people. You deserve no credit, and your place in hell is secure. Go fuck yourselves.

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link

Lol JiC

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link

CNN is saying Trump left a letter for Biden.

That's an interesting way to spell "flaming bag of dog poop"

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:27 (three years ago) link

who bloody cares

BREAKING: @ABC News confirms President Trump did leave the traditional letter for President-elect Biden in the Oval Office. https://t.co/HltZlC51K2 #InaugurationDay

— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) January 20, 2021

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:29 (three years ago) link

For what it's worth: apparently Nixon first returned to the White House at Carter's invitation.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1979/01/30/the-return-of-richard-nixon/9782467a-671b-47c7-b679-f9b172a924d0/

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link

Would love to see footage of Biden nonchalantly chucking that unopened letter into the recycling bin along with the Bed Bath & Beyond mailer and something from AARP.

henry s, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link

It's just his crayon recreation of the himself as Rambo t-shirt.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link

good mourning

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:41 (three years ago) link

The letter is probably just a rant about Beau Biden that somehow confuses him for Hunter Biden.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link

So a Trump pardon is going to be the ultimate kitsch totem isn't it? Sometime in our lifetime we're going to start seeing those certificates or whatever they are appearing on eBay.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 14:58 (three years ago) link

A former bandmate of mine got pardoned. Can't say I'm surprised, but it's still hilarious to me that he (K3n Kurs0n) was thought to be too toxic by the Trump administration for a post.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link

GOOD MORNING!!!

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:02 (three years ago) link

Dan Quayle's attending today? I would not have thought he'd still be on the radar, so to speak.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:03 (three years ago) link

letter to biden:
https://i.imgur.com/kBaKTwZ.jpg

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link

xp dan........Quayle....?

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link

I got a letter from the government
The other day, I opened and read it
It said they were suckers

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link

According to CNN. Maybe every living P/VP is automatically invited. That'll change.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/thUClv3.jpg

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

CNN is talking about how happy and vindicated Hillary Clinton must feel and I’m just like “are you talking about the famous Hillary Clinton or some rando, because I assume famous Hillary Clinton has been surviving on a molten ball of rage for the past four years and attending Biden’s inauguration isn’t likely to make that go away”

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link

Like, this is a gigantic glaring reminder that people hated her so much they voted a half-sentient hate diaper into the Presidency, she must have some seriously mixed emotions going on

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

Especially considering he got more actual votes this election!

Nhex, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link

I'm sure she's basking in Trump's humiliating exit, but yeah, watching someone being inaugurated who was such a non-starter in 2015 he had to step aside for her run, that can't be much fun.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link

it's over, though.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link

DC old school r’n’b singer and activist Royal Height did this recent song telling Trump to get outta DC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_fh3LyjuKc

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

that should console hillary. the defeat was still humiliating, but it's history now, she doesn't have to see his face in the headlines every day.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

neither does everybody else which must be something. & now he's got no media to attention seek through.
future's looking a little brighter

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link

yeah i am more excited for myself and the relief i feel than concerned about hillary, sorry hill

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link

i feel like trump enemies are going to experience withdrawal. people were addicted to the psychodrama.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

Who is concerned about Hillary? I thought it was funny

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

A former bandmate of mine got pardoned. Can't say I'm surprised, but it's still hilarious to me that he (K3n Kurs0n) was thought to be too toxic by the Trump administration for a post.

This guy sounds.... awful

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/23/nyregion/ken-kurson-arrest-cyberstalking.html

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

it's over, though.

famous last words

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

it's funny that the twitter ban has actually been effective. he really can't control the news cycle anymore.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link

at noon, we find out that the anonymous Q was actually the ghost of Harold Camping all along

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

hopefully most of those people have sobered up.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

lol

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

idk paint thinner takes a while to make it through the system

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

pretty sure Trump insists on lead paint.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link

the best paint

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link

Bernie dressed to stand on line at the post office. pic.twitter.com/tVgFQisnWy

— Clare Malone (@ClareMalone) January 20, 2021

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

bernie put a hat on

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link

The gloves are actually badgers.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link

Morbidly curious of where the goalposts will be moved to next, after these mass arrests fail to happen today. Biden's first State of the Union?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link

I'm sure she's basking in Trump's humiliating exit, but yeah, watching someone being inaugurated who was such a non-starter in 2015 he had to step aside for her run, that can't be much fun.


He didn’t run because his eldest son had just died.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

bernie's jacket from costco

akm, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

Morbidly curious of where the goalposts will be moved to next, after these mass arrests fail to happen today. Biden's first State of the Union?

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:38 AM bookmarkflaglink

"this was just the silent judgment of Democrats, 6 months from now is when Q's followers will be taken into Heaven"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/GopdiLH.jpg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link

(xpost) Not that it matters now, but I believe it was more likely a combination of the two.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link

I have no idea if biden would have beaten Clinton in 2016 and no interest in having that conversation but the idea that she was such a strong candidate that she drove out the Vice President is pretty obviously not true. She demonstrably wasn’t a strong candidate!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

Fan fic has a lot to answer for in re Q tbh

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

@Nigella_Lawson
5h
Well, yes, Bitter Orange Tart just happens to be #RecipeOfTheDay.

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

Like, this is a gigantic glaring reminder that people hated her so much they voted a half-sentient hate diaper into the Presidency, she must have some seriously mixed emotions going on

ok even I think this is a little harsh on joe

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:44 (three years ago) link

Fan fic has a lot to answer for in re Q tbh

this is otm

And we thought the 50 Shades series was the worst it would bring to life.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link

I disagree, caek. I think there was very much momentum at the time for that nomination to go to her (and then Sanders changed things). But like you, not a lot interest in revisiting that.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link

lol Simon

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link

i saw The Hate Diapers in El Paso when they opened for the Circle Jerks in '86

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

Hillary Clinton is dressed like a tribute to Prince

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:48 (three years ago) link

"I Would Die for Q"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

Anyone catch the graphic on Ted Cruz's mask? It says "Come and take it" but has a picture of something that looks more like a telescope than a gun - can't quite make it out. Whatever it is, smh at that spineless piece of shit getting lulz coopting the sloganeering of his deranged base

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

I don't want to catch anything from Ted Cruz, thanks

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

smh at that spineless piece of shit getting lulz coopting the sloganeering of his deranged base

It ain't coopting when he's part of that deranged base, is it?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

both fair respnses

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

GWB walking out there like a respectable elder statesman instead of a genocidal shithead, gets his scarf blown across his as he exits the door, thanks basedwind.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

goddamn Gorsuch is tall

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link

holy shit someone pulled Kavanaugh's mask off, it's JUSTICE SCALIA!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:54 (three years ago) link

lmao at the Supreme Court justices not getting coats

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

holy shit someone pulled Kavanaugh's mask off, it's JUSTICE SCALIA!

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal),

real life lol

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

Need a 'Don't tread on me' flag but it's Cruz's face on a poop emoji

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

did he just say "George W Bitch"?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

Cool, Bjork is Kamala Harris' stepdaughter

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

lmao @ 'George W Bitch"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

I require video of this

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

Dubya Bish don't kill my vibe

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

I find it extremely bizarre that people are still invested in how Hillary personally feels about this.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

Who is the woman lurking in the background in the dark green jacket?

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

xpost HOW bizarre?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

xpost Poison Ivy

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

American politics relies so excessively on personality cult, and she's not even a very good personality cult

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

didn't even tell us one and one is three iirc

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

Clinton on the verge of dicknosing

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

Mike Pence is like a jar of rancid peanut butter

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

This music is shit btw what is it

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

4'33

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

Clinton on the verge of dicknosing

― scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:01 AM bookmarkflaglink

so on brand

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

Bjork's "Joga" in Muzak form.

xpost

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

I appreciate whoever your man was wearing a quilted jacket under his coat btw, solidarity with the always-cold

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

lmao someone on CNN was getting all hagiographic about Pence smoothing things over for this transition and Tapper was all "we should note that all of this is only two weeks old; he was just as obstructionist as anyone else before then"

The talking heads are salty and I'm here for it; the more they keep that anger stoked, the more mainstream pressure there will be to make these fuckers actually see some consequences.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

Looks like all the Supreme Court Justices there except for Clarence Thomas , whose wife had been posting crazy right wing pro-Trump rally stuff on Facebook.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:03 (three years ago) link

I didn't see Alito?

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

I’m sorry but that outfit in the crowd with the tweed and the sequinned epaulettes is fucking terrible

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

whose wife had been posting crazy right wing pro-Trump rally stuff on Facebook.

Between paying for bus rides to the insurrection, no?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

gyac, that is Harris's daughter-in-law

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

CLINTON’S NOSE IS FULLY OUT

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

Looks like all the Supreme Court Justices there except for Clarence Thomas , whose wife had been posting crazy right wing pro-Trump rally stuff on Facebook.

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, January 20, 2021

Thomas loathes Biden.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

and then you destroy yourself

The Goya dude is going off the rails https://t.co/NQIVK95CBS

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) January 20, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

New Bad Religion single out today

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uacdaG5ajX8

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

gyac, that is Harris's daughter-in-law


that’s why I started with “I’m sorry” as she’s clearly young, it’s just really awful

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

Like, he still blames him for the hearings.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

CLINTON’S NOSE IS FULLY OUT

― scampish inquisition (gyac),

RUN, INTERNS

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

er I meant stepdaughter

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

Bill Clinton, causing chaos even now

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

first Vince Foster now this

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

wow, A-Rod is much darker than I remember

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

lol, every time the camera lands on Pence, he's just standing there staring very gravely into the middle distance, interacting with no one but his wife

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

I wondered if that was A-Rod

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

I appreciate today’s commitment to double-masking

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

I love that Eugene Goodman got a bigger cheer than Mike Pence

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link

Anyone catch the graphic on Ted Cruz's mask?

Come and take it

visiting, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

we should all be cheering for Eugene Goodman at full throat , or this ceremony might not be happening rn

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

Anybody who's feelin' it can 'copaganda' me all they like but seeing Goodman walk out ahead of Kamala made me feel good, man.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

The Come and Take it flag has been appropriated in many contexts in the 21st century, by gun rights activists, abortion rights activists, and even by fast-food chains.[8]

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

AKA in the house

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

Harris looks great.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link

Anybody who's feelin' it can 'copaganda' me all they like but seeing Goodman walk out ahead of Kamala made me feel good, man.

― Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch

otm

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link

we should all be cheering for Eugene Goodman at full throat , or this ceremony might not be happening rn

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal)

seriously, I've been thinking abt that as well

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

so here's a thing: the inaugural announcer is a guy who i was close friends with in high school. he's been doing this for years.
https://www.wkrn.com/news/local-news/greenbrier-native-serves-as-announcer-for-fourth-presidential-inauguration/

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

Anybody who's feelin' it can 'copaganda' me all they like but seeing Goodman walk out ahead of Kamala made me feel good, man.

Yup, I'm with you.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

i had no idea the goya ceo was a maga guy

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

imagine hearing a guy you remember *REDACTED* in his teens introducing the president. it makes this day that much more surreal.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

Watching Harris standing there, obv beaming and trying to take it all in, made me well up a bit. Damn.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

eugene goodman is a true hero i am glad he was included in the inauguration.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

I couldn't sleep at all last night, like a kid on Christmas Eve; I kept rolling over and thinking "tomorrow Trump leaves the White House and Harris becomes VP" and grinning really fucking widely. It's not even about Biden at this point.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

Hhhhhhuh. Guess I never knew Biden's middle name before. Intersting.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

not as intersting as "Debbie"

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:20 (three years ago) link

lol crowd was like "whut" when Klobs introduced

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

"And a whole buncha Bidens."

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

Legit did not realise her name was pronounced like that

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

Harris appears to be crying and I’m not far behind her

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

Surprised I got the sleep I did. About four hours, FWIW.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

I slept soundly and felt like I'd earned it

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

i barely got any either, combination of inauguration and for whatever reason the street lamps being brighter than usual in our c omplex and making teh whole house light up

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

Kloubs getting her big spot for dropping out before the MN primary

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

Klob is a pretty bad public speaker

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

i'm gonna say it, Trump's crowd was bigger...

koogs, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

based on squint-factor alone, French Stewart will be playing Roy Blunt in the Oliver Stone pic about the last 4 years

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:27 (three years ago) link

more perfect Union
more perfect Union
More perfect Union

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

based on squint-factor alone, French Stewart will be playing Roy Blunt in the Oliver Stone pic about the last 4 years

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal)

feeling Walter Matthau vibes

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

Klob has not dialed her rhetoricometer up to "national", it's still stuck on "Roseville"

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:29 (three years ago) link

The grammar police need to wrestle Blunt to the ground.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

xpost

she shoulda gotten maverick's roast beef sandwiches for everyone

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

next on Father Dowling Mysteries.....

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link

she's lost without a pete to bash

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link

Who is this Donovan?

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link

Bernie’s mittens are made by Jen Ellis, a teacher from Essex Junction, Vt. She gave them to him 2+ years ago and was surprised when he began wearing them on the campaign trail. They are made from repurposed wool sweaters and lined with fleece made from recycled plastic bottles. pic.twitter.com/ErLr29lY2t

— Ruby Cramer (@rubycramer) January 20, 2021

my king

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:31 (three years ago) link

every time they show Harris, I'm certain I hear a faint "SKEE-WEE" echo outside

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:32 (three years ago) link

she's lost without a pete to bash

relatable, honestly

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:35 (three years ago) link

GAGA

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

don't cry for me, Lady Gaga

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

are we thru the lookin' glass

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

Here we go.

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

Picturing Andy Garcia on a horse: "Gaga!" (Don't misinterpret--I like her.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

where's that "put a bird on it" skit from Portlandia

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

her intonation's really good but I keep imagining my choir teacher yelling DIPTHONG! DIPTHONG!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link

(i adore Gaga)

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link

lol
she's got the pipes for it though

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link

that was dope.

now I wanna hear "Telephone"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

shoulda worn the meat dress

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

meh

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

I was waiting for Gaga to kiss two fingers and hold them aloft, Katniss-style

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

When does Bradley Cooper show up for the duet?

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

klob not bothered to memorize her lines for some reason

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

HERE WE GO

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

Here we go

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

My cynical facade keeps unexpectedly getting the wind knocked out of it. Partly just because I'm getting old and tear up over goddamn commercials and shit, partly because...thank god for a return to some small sliver of normalcy.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

lol okay so her middle name is not "Debbie"

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

alright now haul off Biden

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

Goodbye, Vice President Pence.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

Kamala Harris becoming Vice President is not "normal", it's much better than "normal"

If it was "normal", that would mean that a Black/Southeast Asian woman becoming Vice President was no big deal

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

aw she's not doing "Booty"?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

J.Lo isn't going to sing live, is she

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

Joey From The Block

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

Good night, sweet Pence.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

where's Ja Rule

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

just like woody would have wanted

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

J.Lo isn't going to sing live, is she

lol no she is not

good call, J.Lo

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

this coat kills fascists

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

Looking forward to the J. Lo Americana album.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

would've preferred A-Rod singing tbh

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

lol Alfred

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

so if the oath gets administered a minute shy of noon, will Trump complain he was denied 60 seconds of the presidency?

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

Get it J Lo

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

whoa

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

"let's get loud"?

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

that was very cool, the spoken part in Spanish. much needed after the last 4 years

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

waiting for tonight MOTHERFUCKAS

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

REEEEEEEEMIX

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

Kamala Harris becoming Vice President is not "normal", it's much better than "normal"

If it was "normal", that would mean that a Black/Southeast Asian woman becoming Vice President was no big deal

― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 10:43 AM (twenty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Didn't mean to suggest otherwise. It's just...sloughing off four years of trauma makes it difficult for me to fully appreciate exceptional events in the moment. Right now it's just waves of relief.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

BOOOOOOOO ROBERTS

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

They've got Carrot Top standing by if they're running ahead of schedule.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link

can one of our spanish speaking ilxors please translate jlo's outburst?

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link

J. Lo followed by J. Ro.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link

haha

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link

Translation plz

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

Kamala Harris becoming Vice President is not "normal", it's much better than "normal"

chucking imagining MAGA types sharing images of Harris being sworn in and exclaiming "this is NOT NORMAL!!"

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

imagining Q Anon folk having a Heaven's Gate-esque final meeting right now

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

Watching Harris standing there, obv beaming and trying to take it all in, made me well up a bit. Damn.

she spoke some of the lyrics

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

Old Lunch OTM

The historic nature of Harris as VP hasn’t even hit me fully yet because of all the stuff happening

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

still 10 minutes for Q to work its magic

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

damn you can't sit Biden down if you need him to get back up again, only a finite number of times he can do both

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

Wait...did Trump not rip off his Biden face after being sworn in for a second time?!?

WHAT'S HAPPENING!?!

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

I'm extremely pleased with the immediate and aggressive policy rollbacks announced upthread

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link

agreed

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

yup

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

can one of our spanish speaking ilxors please translate jlo's outburst?

"This is the part where Ja Rule was going to drop a few bars but he's been laying low since the whole Fyre Festival thing"
*English* "LET'S GET LOUD"

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

can one of our spanish speaking ilxors please translate jlo's outburst?

she actually said, "You can buy or stream my album of standards in two weeks, bitches!"

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

lol x 2

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

"I know the Constitution. I was there when they wrote it."

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

awww nice shoutout to Jimmy Carter.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

Oh shit, Joe pretty pointedly thanked every living prez sans Donnie. Way to go.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link

"this is a great nation" really channeling Dr steve brule energy

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link

"This American carnage...it ends here and it ends NOW."

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link

what's the over/under on Republicans/Trumpers pretending to take COVID seriously now that it's Biden's problem

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

God, only found out about Kamala Khan cos of that Marvel 616 series has it lead to anybody photoshopping the outfit onto ms Harris?

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

Lol @ Biden having personally gone to church with St. Augustine.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

I kind of want Biden to say “I promise to be the environmental police detective”

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

"look"

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

can one of our spanish speaking ilxors please translate jlo's outburst?


“Una nación bajo Dios, indivisible, con libertad y justicia para todos”

One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all

thousand-yard spiral stairs (f. hazel), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

Time for Biden to rip off the mask and reveal...Enrico Palazzo

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link

"One nation who prefer Dio, he was better than Ozzy, check out Mob Rules"

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

Official:

Ready to serve.

— Vice President Kamala Harris (@VP) January 20, 2021

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:07 (three years ago) link

Biden is doing well

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

ahahahaha

Poe's Law is breaking at the seams pic.twitter.com/MMmQJhQ2Li

— lvl 45 chaos potus LIMITED EDITION! (@thetomzone) January 20, 2021

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

They just cut to Corey Booker and Rosario Dawson in the audience and I continue to be baffled that that relationship was not a campaign stunt.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

Revised speech to insert "Look, folks" but no "here's the deal"s

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

This is a good start, emphases where they need to be.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link

so no mass arrests of Democrats yet?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link

thanks f hazel

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

Mark Leggiero is the one lone Trump supporter out in front of the NYS Capitol. He says he expected a few thousand ppl here and is disappointed. He said he drove 45 minutes for a peaceful protest pic.twitter.com/hDtCLYFpLq

— Morgan Mckay (@morganfmckay) January 20, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

this is such a sad commentary on how bad things have been but I'm honestly moved just to see the president actually acknowledge reality and not say that our problems are fake news

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

I thought Biden was about to cite "You Get What You Give" instead of "American Anthem"

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

re: that earlier tweet, I would not be surprised if there was a wave of Q-related suicides over the next while

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

omg that tweet is like pure uncut joy hahaha you fucker

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

Big mood.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link

oh dear lord Garth

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link

hahahaha garth

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link

generally a good day to not be on social media imo but that tweet was worth it

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

Inaugural luncheon prepared by special guests Trisha Yearwood and Sandra Lee.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

hell yeah

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

Was hoping he'd at least come out as Chris Gaines.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

Oh, fine, gimmie Garth

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

butter up the biscuits boys

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

Inaugural luncheon prepared by special guests Trisha Yearwood and Sandra Lee.

Garth's Breakfast Bowl

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

tbh Gaga-J.Lo-Garth is a pretty good lineup, inauguration wise

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

he's not doing badly at all

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

That was good--liked that he took a moment out for Carter.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

sing it america!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

"sing along, all you muslims and buddhists at home!"

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

Garth's a pro, he's worked much bigger crowds than this

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

lmao my stream froze and is 5 minutes behind

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

"Gotta go now, it's Taco Wednesday at Trish's!"

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

don't forget to hug the bushes

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

Who is this guy?

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

Garth Brooks = no further questions about this man’s right to call himself Irish, imo

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

Whoever said Garth Brooks looks like Alex Jones now was OTM, I'm crying

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

The guy who introduced the poet

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

Also ffs sing a goddamned phrase

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

lol these inaugural poems always suck

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

JUst thinking he has a much better musical lineu pthan the previous bozo despite there being major restrictions o what could be put on presumably.
Are we going to get a message somehow later saying that there's a smaller inauguration ceremony.
Or is he going to remember more flags than people this morning, will he remember that far back.

Do hope t has his messenger crows ready at mar a lago or not as the case may be.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

Gorman out here rhyming "justice" and "just us" in slam poetry cadence

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link

xpost it was Roy Blunt - GOP Senator

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link

Girth Brooks

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link

She said 'weatherrrrrrd', like M Doughty

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link

this is a poem?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

Thanks Andy. (Had to watch the start of this on mute and didn’t recognize him.)

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

I'm having trouble finding coverage of the military tribunal for Biden/Harris. Is there a Q app I can download on my phone?

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

I salute the message and who this poetic reading will mean everything or something to but - I’ve never, ever been a fan of poetry like this. (It doesn’t matter what I think, of course.)

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

The promise of Love Jones finally pays off

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

It's like a prose poem I guess

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

It's a normal poem?

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

Have you all never heard a slam poet before?

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

what rhymes with scranton?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

DJP: I have.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

I thought she was good fwiw. I mean, that kind of slam night at the coffeehouse vibe is its own thing and mostly not my thing, but she had style.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

xxp scansion

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

XxXpost Buju Banton

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

I liked the poem. A lot actually

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

i like the benediction here

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

How many prayers and blessing does this nation need ffs. No wait don’t answer that

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

I'm also like, have you never heard Maya Angelou read a poem before?

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

I want witches to appear next

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link

poem was 100x better than this prayer

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

i don't disagree with anything the reverend is saying! he's been the most to the point and honest of the speakers thus far (except for jlo)

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

I appreciate the dedication to wiping that podium

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

As text it reads like a speech, and, yeah, I've heard better slam poetry.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

The Garth Brooks presidential hug-athon was unexpected fun.

(Although uh Garth, put the mask back on)#InaugurationDay #Inauguration2021 #Inauguration pic.twitter.com/0T5xrVmSK2

— Courtney Theriault (@cspotweet) January 20, 2021



Garth Brooks kissing everyone with no mask!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link

Garth = Q = the kraken unleashing his uncovered mouth

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

First executive order = recognizing 80s post-Born Again Black Sabbath as Tony Iommi solo albums

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

It's a wrap

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

This is the first AME reverend to speak at an inauguration since... Nixon

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

this crowd is unable to clap along to a fucking sousa march, it's impressive

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

I want some New Radicals. Give me

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

(reminder: I'm 5 min behind)

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

We can all rest in peace now that Biden has taken over. Bill Clinton is sleeping! pic.twitter.com/5zfGdMwBAA

— BumbleBee🐝 🖋☕🐈✈📸🌻😂 (@Bumble6671) January 20, 2021

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

It's good to know there wasn't a sudden assassination attempt

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

we're all just being good about spoilers

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

did breyer resign yet? what's the hold up?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

Bill Clinton has nitrous in his mask

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

lol caek

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

Don't use the toilet without inspecting the tank first, Joe

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

xps Its Pence that's sitting next to "mommy" tho?

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

Mods please explain why Biden isn't arrested yet

Kinda glad/kinda mad that ilxors never ask their mods thoughtful existential questions like this.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

QAmod

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/LRWKdmIieh

— Parler Cringe (@ParlerCringe) January 20, 2021

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link

he is arrested, trust the plan!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link

Voting. Works.

Executive Actions @JoeBiden signs later today.

👇🏽 pic.twitter.com/NJmnI4vJi2

— MARIA TERESA KUMAR #WearAMask (@MariaTeresa1) January 20, 2021

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

oh no breaking news great big sinkhole where mara lago used to be, whodathunkit.

Was worried we weren't going to get to this point where the inauguration was successfully completed.
Hope we can breathe a sigh of relief.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

xp mmm I just read that again for extra warm feels, thanks UMS

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link

yeah, that's a good list
i want forward motion COVID vaccine news every day for the next three weeks

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

Literally no difference between those executive actions and what a re-elected Trump would have done.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

DJP spurs just conceded from a simple cross into the box fyi. Man totally unmarked between dier and davies.

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

I want some New Radicals. Give me

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:33 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

You're going to have to wait a couple of hours. It's part of the Virtual Parade Across America, which starts at 3:15 PM EST.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

I misread Liberians as Librarians, but yes, nice list.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

xpost but I want them NOWWW! :(

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

what, they're not on the prime time TV special?!

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

Gregg can't see in the dark with his hat over his eyes

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

As hilarious and gratifying as the Q hyperschadenfreude is this morning, I would 100% support a Department of Deprogramming because these people need fucking hellllp.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link

Some of them also need jail

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link

Deprogramming is just another form of programming ~do u see~

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

wouldn't be surprised if QAnon folk got excited when they misinterpreted "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

I’ve never, ever been a fan of poetry like this.

Poems for ceremonial occasions are a genre of their own and I thought her poem was a fine example of that genre. The very fact that she understood what her task was speaks very well of her command of her craft as a poet; few young poets can speak in a ceremonial voice and considering the style in which she works, she did a very artful job of bending that style to meet the needs of the occasion.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

Meantime in Q world

Ron Watkins pulls the plug. This will be absolutely crushing to QAnon believers: pic.twitter.com/SfxJwCLCoU

— Jesselyn Cook (@JessReports) January 20, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

If you're unfamiliar with Ron:

Ron Watkins, the former 8kun admin who helped keep QAnon afloat for years (and who some suspected of being Q himself), is throwing in the towel. pic.twitter.com/HJdBrOexO2

— Kevin Roose (@kevinroose) January 20, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

would be nice if we could just ignore qanon / parler for a sec?

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

"a new project i'm currently fleshing out" = kiddie porn, Ponzi scheme, or some combination thereof?

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

xpost Schadenfreude tummy-ache?

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

i thought this was good

I wrote about our new president. https://t.co/C2hE0gkTZp

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) January 20, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

“Remember, the real Q was the friends we made along the way.”

— Julie Saunders (@ohmissjulie) January 20, 2021

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link

Not going to give her any further attention by linking it, but I had to rmde to see that MTG tweeted "#impeachbiden" at the exact minute he was inaugurated.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

lmao

pic.twitter.com/HkqlfL2Red

— patrick (@redford) January 20, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

what time is the eurovision thing where they take video from states trying to become memes?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

i had no idea the goya ceo was a maga guy

― treeship., Thursday, January 21, 2021 3:17 AM (one hour ago)

Trump père et Ivanka both issued advert / endorsements for Goya from the White House.

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

which is illegal fwiw

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

!! maybe this will finally be the thing that gets him fired

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link

DJP spurs just conceded from a simple cross into the box fyi. Man totally unmarked between dier and davies.

― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:45 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

osita otm

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

Forbes: ‘We All Got Played’: QAnon Followers Implode After Big Moment Never Comes
...followers of the unhinged conspiracy theory in despair and searching for answers...

Heheheheh....

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

Watkins basically just saying "Yeah Q was just me, it was fun, go back to your lives, I have some new shit I'm working on" is really something.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link

By midday, a new spin to the conspiracy theory gripped the far right message boards: President Joe Biden was their savior all along, a twist multiple QAnon influencers threw their support behind.

“Biden is Q” a post on the donald.win read, while others brushed aside that theory and urged believers to stick with Trump.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link

Impressed by the list of executive actions.

Thoroughly baffled by much of the rest of this thread at the moment.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link

Joe Biden and the political actors who will be subjected to pressure from the left in the coming months and years will not be ideologically converted. They will not be made stewards of progressive values or crusaders in a fight against capitalism. They will remain, forever, dogged opponents in that fight. But there are moments in history when, if conditions are right, the resolve of critical actors with an instinct for political self-preservation can be cracked and material gains can be made. We may well be on the cusp of one now. Let’s find out.

Osita is, AFAICT, the only person who regularly writes op-eds that are actually correct

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link

imagine going to church, standing up and announcing that hey, maybe the devil is actually god and we should all start worshiping him instead

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link

o.n. is always sharp

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

imagine going to church, standing up and announcing that hey, maybe the devil is actually god and we should all start worshiping him instead

Wasn't this what the Process Church of the Final Judgment believed? Jesus and Lucifer as one being? Watch for the Qists to start wearing hooded black robes...or just fast forward to running a chain of animal shelters.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

Well played Greta! @GretaThunberg#InaugurationDay

How it started How it's going pic.twitter.com/b6zLpIe5Pn

— 𝗔𝗹𝗶 𝗔𝘄𝗗𝗼𝗹𝗹 (@AwDoll) January 20, 2021

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

Put on a mask you fucking shitlord

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

if we're going to do this much Q stuff, maybe another thread for it?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that was a fine op-ed.

I'm a little baffled by all the cheering on of Empire that's happening here and elsewhere on the internet, though, so I'm peacing out for now.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

xpost - I mean, fair, but, unfortunately, as recently as two weeks ago, the "Q stuff" was inextricably and dangerously tied to politics, so it's kinda hard to avoid. I think right now there's just a joy in watching some absolutely terrifying and dangerous people lose their shit and identity.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link

yeah i don't think we can stop talking about trump and his supporters here, but the Q stuff really is a cesspool and i'm fine with not hearing about it again.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

only some reveling in their humiliation, seems cool to revel in that for a day

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

This morning.
I may have this framed. pic.twitter.com/tMM3CmOEfS

— Raymond McNeel (@RaymondMcNeel) January 20, 2021

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link

Considering that people are pissed in the Biden thread about yet another US politics thread, I'm pretty hesitant to start yet another one.

Would love to see the xls of what are acceptable topics for a politics thread or not, this thread content policing is pretty fucking inconsistent.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link

jesus

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

Not so much “cheering for empire” as cheering for just a touch of governmental normalcy, as frustrated as most of us are with aspects of government.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I think Q is effectively over... we're just having a chuckle as they slink towards the exits.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

Considering that people are pissed in the Biden thread about yet another US politics thread, I'm pretty hesitant to start yet another one.

lol if this is the first time you have ever noticed someone from the islands west of europe laughing that there are many threads about US politics on ILX

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link

even when prophecy fails it can still have legs

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link

So if I'm understanding this right, it is now time to pivot the politics thread away from the relentless horrors of the past 4 years and back to its normally programmed attacks on Democrats on liberals with only a bare acknowledgement of the half of the country that wants to throw us all in prison camps. I was hoping we could wait a half-day for that, but sure, I'm game.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link

Democrats and liberals, that should say

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

Today i want to wish biden good luck, this is a really fucked up time to become president. I hope bernie has his ear.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

I'm a little baffled by all the cheering on of Empire that's happening here and elsewhere on the internet

After 4 years of daily torture by tweet the outrush of relief at just having to cope with the Empire we all know and love to hate is both sincere and pardonable. We will resume normal programming soon enough, the moment we hear about some quote from Biden or one of his cabinet nominees that provokes our stern disapproval. We'll be back on message in no time.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

Not so much “cheering for empire” as cheering for just a touch of governmental normalcy, as frustrated as most of us are with aspects of government.

― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:53 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

COVID was obviously the worst possible issue for Trump, it's resistant to bullshit, impossible to spin, requires coordination, consistency and competence. pretty much the exact opposite of what Trump is about.

but I feel like one of his biggest mistakes in all this was the Post Office stuff, I think that really got to people and got the election down to a wish for just some sort of base level functioning government. Plus it delayed packages during a big shopping time, it alienated older people who rely on the Post Office more. All that made Biden's return to normalcy pitch more appealing.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

Do you guys remember that chain letter cryptocurrency that was called “q” and it was like “sign up with your email & invite 5 other ppl and we will give you 10,000q (estimated to be worth $69mil in two years)”?

Yelp for gyros (wins), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

I do! I signed up for fun, forgot all about it. Maybe I'm secretly rich.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

here's a fun little bernie bro shitpost just to spice things up

https://t.co/mcGLGAuukC pic.twitter.com/bImXKhXQqo

— Secular Talk (@KyleKulinski) January 20, 2021

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

Keep the faith man xp

Yelp for gyros (wins), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link

Even the National Anthem at the inauguration ceremony was secret pork for Joe Manchin...

I am so proud of @ladygaga’s beautiful rendition of the #NationalAnthem at the #Inauguration ceremony. Afterwards we talked about her family’s Wheeling roots and she shared how proud she is of her #WV family. pic.twitter.com/Wbh4cEIaX9

— Senator Joe Manchin (@Sen_JoeManchin) January 20, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

Considering that people are pissed in the Biden thread about yet another US politics thread, I'm pretty hesitant to start yet another one.

Would love to see the xls of what are acceptable topics for a politics thread or not, this thread content policing is pretty fucking inconsistent.


How about Americans stop cross posting the exact same content to multiple threads idk

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

#Qnethread

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

'Tis true, there is a finite number of empty threads available for use and we've nearly used them up. Restraint, my friendsh.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

It should be saged

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

since i brought it up, my view is that screenshots from qanon forums are as welcome as screenshots from st0rmfront.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

there is a finite number of empty threads available for use

the indexing of threads makes this truer than you might realize, although I'm sure stet has provided for a Very Large Number of available indices

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

Seriously could you white people just stop for like one fucking day

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

stop what?

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link

I think Q Anon is irrelevant now basically, just like Trump. The far right will rear its head again but in a different form. Meanwhile we can build a strong, prosperous, inclusive nation on a foundation of social trust, or at least try to do something like that.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link

thought that title would please everyone

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link

I think Q Anon is irrelevant now basically, just like Trump. The far right will rear its head again but in a different form. Meanwhile we can build a strong, prosperous, inclusive nation on a foundation of social trust, or at least try to do something like that.


Lol

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link

In the joe era, karl is a troublemaker. I like it. I need a new thing too.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link

stop what?

just a guess, but maybe stop acting like Biden isn't a massive improvement on a president who openly professed his love for white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link

politics is shitty, this is a politics thread, wtf at the sanctimony

as long as "Q" (or whatever its next stupid iteration is called) has representatives in Congress (!) and is actually influencing policy it merits disussion in a politics thread

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link

How about Americans stop cross posting the exact same content to multiple threads idk

― scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 7:06 PM (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

as soon as you stop posting the same shit 95% of the time idk

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

Aimless you are addressing *maybe* like two ppl itt w/ that nonsense

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

I think joe biden is malleable honestly. My big things are wealth redistribution and the environment and I think Joe can be moved to do things on both fronts. He was a right wing democrat in the 80s and 90s but that is no longer where the country is and he knows it.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

haha this thread rules

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

we did it guys! we're finally angry at each other and not trump!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqjlFGZxtE

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

Also prison and police reform. That is so big.

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

I don't get why there can't be multiple U.S. politics threads for subtopics in U.S. politics, especially given how active the main thread is. There are multiple threads about rock music on ILM.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

I'm not optimistic Biden has any more of an inner life than Trump does, but it's probably just "Prelude to the Afternoon of a Faun" in his head instead of howling pandemonium

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

And healthcare. Lot of things to push him on. The country is in dire enough shape that good things could happen. When obama took office there was no squad, no real pressure from the left

treeship., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

guys Joe said we need to come together? stop the malarkey pls.

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

Its the start the new era deserved

Love to all

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

Biden has only been president two hours and he has already united the left and right in common hatred of Biden. Promise kept!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

In the joe era, karl is a troublemaker. I like it. I need a new thing too.

― treeship.

i am at heart a troublemaker, i think.

(or is that karl speaking)?

but yeah, honestly, i've been really messed up, in a really weird place, recently. i wish this inauguration stuff would lift me up a little, but i'm feeling more dissociated than ever. i'm hoping that this weirdness, right now, is kind of like puking a bunch after a wild evening. it sucks, it's bad, it acidic as hell, it's going to take some paper towels to clean up in some spots. it's that little swig of water in your mouth afterward, to briefly clean some of the puke remnants out from under the back of the tongue and the roof near the tonsils. but then you brush your teeth, swig some more water, swig some listerine, and go to bed. and when you wake up, about 30 minutes, you go back to the bathroom and you REALLY puke your guts out, and there's that nauseous realization that underneath all the other puke was the true puke. but then you go to bed again, and joe biden is q, probably.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

It's fair to speculate that Obama will be some kind of senior advisor, if not formally

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

i took the day off work to watch the inauguration, then overslept until 12:45pm. so now i'm watching the old c-span livestream. no gaga or garth or new radicals, yet

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

Obama retire

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

So many of these shitty orders getting undone today. I get that McConnell was an effective leader of the senate for appointments but it doesn’t seem like they accomplished much in the way of legislation that can’t be undone by Biden.

Restoration of Grand Staircase-Escalante and Bears Ears National Monuments to be ordered today at 5:15 pm EST..... https://t.co/gC8aJf1BPb #MonumentsForAll #StandWithBearsEars

— P. David Polly (@pdavidpolly) January 20, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

That's the bee's knees

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

Another plus, I guess, it that this thread isn't (yet) 67,000 posts of Bernie sitting forlornly in a chair. Unfortunately that appears to be about all Twitter is capable of processing today.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link

I don't get why there can't be multiple U.S. politics threads for subtopics in U.S. politics, especially given how active the main thread is. There are multiple threads about rock music on ILM.


Is this a serious post lol

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link

jesus i step away for a meeting, I see 3 million new posts, I thought maybe Biden got sonned by a wite kid after a AOL beef

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

tbh I'm not a huge fan of the multiple politics threads cos half the time I forget which fuckin' one I'm in and post in the wrong one but it's still simultaneously also the right one so it doesn't matter and oh dear now i'm crosseyed

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

#onethread

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

(in other words, gyac otm)

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

A former bandmate of mine got pardoned. Can't say I'm surprised, but it's still hilarious to me that he (K3n Kurs0n) was thought to be too toxic by the Trump administration for a post.

lol this knucklehead floated notoriously just out of the periphery of my college social circle. Here's a contemporaneous Baffler takedown

https://thebaffler.com/salvos/three-scenes-from-a-bull-market

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

Fox News' Sandra Smith wonders if Biden signing executive orders on his first day will show he's not for unity, asking "what message does this send."

Chris Wallace: "It says that he won. It’s as simple as that." pic.twitter.com/y1zGSBubtV

— Justin Baragona (@justinbaragona) January 20, 2021

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

lol

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

me signing executive orders rather than passing laws: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!!

me watching my successor sign executive orders: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

Cuts both ways unfortunately

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link

'm a little baffled by all the cheering on of Empire that's happening here and elsewhere on the internet, though, so I'm peacing out for now.

― The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table)

It was at best an OK show.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link

And, yeah, table, I love you, and I'll tell you the same thing I'd say if we had beers in person: to wish Joe Biden signs meaningful legislation also means a Celebration of the Empire, so I guess all that Benjamin, Adorno, Marcuse, etc. taught me how to do dialectical thinking real good.

In other words, stop virtue signaling. We get it.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

in other words, I am really fucking happy Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are in the executive branch again. Joe Biden also sucks.

That work?

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

Is this a serious post lol
― scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 1:39 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

...yes?

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

if i had to see the madison cawthorn signature, you have to see the madison cawthorn signature pic.twitter.com/2KKym3vr5O

— alex (@alex_abads) January 20, 2021

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

xxpost OTM

It's nearly imperceptible, but I'm feeling just the slightest physical release after four years of clenching, and the sensation is a little euphoric.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

I didn't realize Madison Cawthorn was in fourth grade. His cursive is coming along great!

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

Some labor news: SEIU has been pressing Biden to immediately fire Peter Robb, the NLRB's Trump-appointed general counsel. That's not normally done under a new prez. It would be a precedent-setting move that shows Biden willing to play hardball for unions https://t.co/IN6NHCYVxS

— Dave Jamieson (@jamieson) January 14, 2021



Scoop w/@josheidelson: Biden demanded the resignation of the federal labor board's top attorney just after being sworn in today. No word yet whether he'll leave voluntarily or force Biden to fire him. https://t.co/iYyDZ6lIio

— Ian Kullgren (@IanKullgren) January 20, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

I thought Madison signed right under Dick Van Dyke. I need new bifocals.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

xp the good news just keeps comin'!

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

I want to read a hundred little items like that over the next few days as each little tick Trump embedded in various positions is plucked off and flushed away

Dan I., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

And unlike the Trump White House, which replaced (or didn't!) each chump with a worse chump, there is pretty much nowhere to go but up.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

The incoming Biden admin has hidden a message for IT folk in https://t.co/vF4SFEypzm's source code: pic.twitter.com/au0kdv0Fgp

— Raphael Satter (@razhael) January 20, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

I keep remembering all these outrages that would have been a huge deal if they weren’t just one of many. Like, are there any plans to move the FDA back from fucking Kansas?

Dan I., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

In other words, stop virtue signaling. We get it.

― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:12 (seventeen minutes ago) link

Saying some is 'virtue signalling' is a textbook example of not getting it

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

My bad, USDA apparently

Dan I., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

Saying some is 'virtue signalling' is a textbook example of not getting it

― xyzzzz__,

well, your posts here are textbook.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

One of the good ones

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

I need to order t-shirts that say EMPIRE on them.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

Have we even mentioned the coolest part of today? (After Kamala's swearing-in, that is)
There will be a rescue dog AND a cat inhabiting the White House

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link

Alfred “virtue signaling” is a fake idea invented by reactionary trolls so maybe pick a different line of attack if you don’t want a reputation as a reactionary troll

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

gotta say, garth's amazing grace was pretty good! it was honest.

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

oh shit, i just his last verse. i'm being asked to sing along...i don't..is this the famous verse, shit here we go fuuuu

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

lady gaga's anthem was terrible but it's a terrible song

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

xps his candidate won, he doesn’t have to pretend to be progressive any more

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

watching a good national anthem is inspirational because it's like making strawberries out of a tarpit

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link

Alfred “virtue signaling” is a fake idea invented by reactionary trolls so maybe pick a different line of attack if you don’t want a reputation as a reactionary troll

― Canon in Deez (silby)

If there's one thing I know, my public record suggests I'll earn a reputation as a reactionary troll.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link

So to be clear, table rolled in here with “Biden’s executive orders are good” followed almost immediately by “I don’t get why people are Celebrating The Empire” as if it’s not actually a big deal that a Black and Southeast Asian woman is Vice President for the first time in our history, but non-white posters are not allowed to push back on this blatant disingenuousness because it would make us neo-Nazis.

Why don’t you all go gush over Bernie’s mittens some more

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

xxpost lol, was gonna say

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

First they came for the sotos

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

I'd say “virtue signaling” is often used by reactionary trolls as a stick to beat people espousing progressive ideas. but to say it has no referent at all in reality shows a rather narrow experience of human beings.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

well look who’s talking about blatant disingenuousness, yassssss kween Kamala, can’t wait for the foreign policy from the admin saying they recognise the coup stooge in Venezuela!

oh and btw, it’s south Asian, not southeast

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

damn leftist snowflakes

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:48 (three years ago) link

For years I’ve auto-SB’d anyone who accuses anyone else of “virtue signaling” & have no plans to stop. Don’t use the enemy’s language

Dan I., Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

fuck you, gyac

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

🙄

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

Yay I'm glad the politics thread can once again be left-on-not-left-enough action.

(Seriously, that makes me happy. It would just also be nice if the lefter part of that segment periodically remembers that there are many greater horrors lurking in the body politic than whatever corporate whoring constitutes the outrage of the day.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

Biden's concentration camps still operating presumably

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

one of these but for American empire when it's being run by liberals

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dwf22h9WkAAJPS6.jpg:small

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

I always assumed the "On Day 1 I'll..." stuff was just a rhetorical flourish, but apparently he's headed inside to sign some of those executive orders.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

fuck you, milo

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

xp we got daylight, go for it! time's a'wasting and people are dying!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

Like with "gaslighting", just because "virtue signaling" is often used incorrectly or disingenuously, it doesn't mean the term doesn't still have an applicable purpose.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

The question isn't "criticizing American empire," it's "feeling a little better today as a POC, therefore this makes you a supporter of the American empire."

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

Now its a party, lads

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

ahh the arrows are all pointed inward again. must be a day that ends in "Y"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

Like with "gaslighting", just because "virtue signaling" is often used incorrectly or disingenuously, it doesn't mean the term doesn't still have an applicable purpose.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 12:53 PM (seven seconds ago)

there's not a "correct" version of the phrase, it's a coinage literally invented by reactionary trolls to accuse people of having ulterior motives for advocating for progressive ideas or even simply that women shouldn't be harassed on messageboards, just say something else!

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

it's easy to get tripped up when some people here do support american empire

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

About to leave the office. Class is over. Time for a drink!

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

it's easy to get tripped up when some people here do support american empire

― stylish but illegal (Simon H.)j

gabbneb is long gone iirc

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

it's the same thing as "white knighting", the implication is you're just trying to look good so you can get your dick wet, pure incel logic

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

posted in here too many times today, self-FP time

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

Perhaps being able to say 'these executive actions seem good' and 'this charade of nationalistic hooey is absolute bullshit and so is the bullshit politics of representation that dumb liberals are disingenuously engaging in' might be a bit much for you, DJP and Alfred, but it isn't for me.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

Tables empire post was bad but to be fair he immediately said he shouldn’t be posting here and left. I don’t know what excuse the rest of us have.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

Ha xp speak of the devil!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

i'm just waiting for the New Radicals

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

as well as being alt right language it's just the standard purity line, like obviously no one really cares about this shit, it could only ever be some kind of posturing, just let us celebrate imperialism in peace

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

There are good people on both sides here!

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

'this charade of nationalistic hooey is absolute bullshit

this is much better than what you originally wrote but hardly original b/c iirc I don't know how many people on ILX love the pageantry.

I hate Xmas carols but understand the point of them.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

I'm frankly baffled as to why fellow anarchists don't see this as a clear victory against straight up fascism that opens up more possibilities to build alternative mutual aid networks etc.

Like sure, "president change - the enemy remains" like I saw tagged downtown the other day, of course, but there's also very good reasons to celebrate today. Of course the system is shitty! Let's see how far we can push them now.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

various people here OTM

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

I just replace “virtue signal” with “setting a good example” in my head so tbh I don’t understand the point Alfred was trying to make

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

xxp I see a lot of people online enthusiastically embracing instutitions they had previously declared irreperrably broken under trump and it looks pretty bleak glad you can find some hope somewhere

Left, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

But apparently it's too much for you that others have reactions and perspectives that don't 100% align with yours

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

Please continue posting actions Team Biden has taken, even small ones.

Xpost

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

I mean...when you come into a thread accusing the thread participants of collectively being imperialists, knowing full well at least two posters (but probably many more) are PoC who are relieved to see the end of the previous administration...idk, do you expect a great reaction from that? It kind of invites "are you REALLY left-wing enough?" and is itself a 'purity test'.

I like table, but I understand why DJP and Alfred responded the way they did, and I don't exactly consider either of them to be John Kerry politically.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

I'm frankly baffled as to why fellow anarchists don't see this as a clear victory against straight up fascism that opens up more possibilities to build alternative music festivals

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

like we can do another 4 years of intentionally misunderstanding each other, or we can actually converse

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

an awful lot of reading into a short post by table, i would simply have chosen to ignore it

anyway I’m going to go back to our threads and post about how great Priti Patel and Leo Varadkar are, yassss king and kween

just don’t get the flag too stained

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

you are a fucking racist

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

I'm frankly baffled as to why fellow anarchists don't see this as a clear victory against straight up fascism that opens up more possibilities to build alternative mutual aid networks etc.

Like sure, "president change - the enemy remains" like I saw tagged downtown the other day, of course, but there's also very good reasons to celebrate today.

The problem is "clear victory" and "celebrate."

Not a single person who has posted to ILX regularly since Roger Adultery left would say that Joe Biden isn't an improvement on Donald Trump.

Joe Biden is also a corrupt centrist with multiple sexual misconduct allegations and a long history of bad policy decisions. No one should be confused for even a moment why an 'anarchist' wouldn't celebrate his ascension.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

i am here as a fan of parades, marching bands and waving-to-crowds

i am on board for pomp & if thats wrong i dont want it to be right

lotta grumpy parade-hating nerds itt <3

oh and here for every mention of The Second Gentleman because i still pinch myself every time they say it :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

Tabes, I'm sorry for using that term.

You should not have written a dumb-as-hell statement in a forum that except in a Al Green thread is not known for unequivocal celebrations.

You often post as if you were the only white guy who's read a few books on foreign policy.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

It would be helpful if some of the genuine leftists around here worked up a crib sheet of real political issues and the accepted way to express our infinite disgust concerning each one. It could probably be credit card sized if you used both sides.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link

thought the approved alternative term was "performatively woke" - only "woke" has been stolen by the shitheads now I guess.

٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link

i am here as a fan of parades, marching bands and waving-to-crowds

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:05 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh great now VG is outing herself as a fucking orangeman

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

milo that's cute of you to use quotes, but yes this anarchist is drinking a mimosa and feeling pretty good that probably less friends of friends of mine are going to be murdered by Nazis now, fuck you.

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

"Why aren't you accepting of alternate viewpoints????" yell thirty people ganging up on one person who expressed dissent.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

you are a fucking racist


the point I was making is that we have really right wing politicians on this side of the Atlantic who don’t become good because of their background. it’s a pretty crude way to make the point, and I apologise, but I don’t think judging KH by her deeds is less important than her background.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

I'm sorry to interrupt but why was joe sworn in with the fucking Necronomicon

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

lol jeez dmac

not THOSE parades?

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

It's an entirely racist way to make the point and you should do a lot of soul-searching about how easy it was for you to do it.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

I'm sorry to interrupt but why was joe sworn in with the fucking Necronomicon

https://i.makeagif.com/media/4-01-2015/KWjZH-.gif

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

Biden: Yes, yes, feel the Unity flow through you!

http://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPzLXQYb2Bn5PLG/giphy.gif

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link

finally, the Satanism I was promised

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link

if only morbs could have been here for this thread

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

nerdy footnote: Bidens inauguration bible has been in his family for 183 years and has all his swearing-in dates inscribed in it + Beau’s AG Delaware swearing-in as well

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:17 (three years ago) link

Happy days!

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

what was he sworn into 183 years ago?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

mean...when you come into a thread accusing the thread participants of collectively being imperialists, knowing full well at least two posters (but probably many more) are PoC who are relieved to see the end of the previous administration...idk, do you expect a great reaction from that? It kind of invites "are you REALLY left-wing enough?" and is itself a 'purity test'.

I like table, but I understand why DJP and Alfred responded the way they did, and I don't exactly consider either of them to be John Kerry politically.

― Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal),

otm -- this is it

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

xpost I like the nerdy footnote. I don't imagine Trump owns a bible, probably had to borrow that copy for his gas-the-kids march

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

he doesn't have a Bible, he has a Bumble account

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

Biden doing a tiny bit of old-man Mandelbaum jogging during the parade was funny.

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

love all the people yelling "how does it feel to be President?".

what's he gonna say "it fuckin' sucks, I hate it, and it shouldn't exist!"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

Bidens secret service detail have got their work cut out for them re his detours to chat with all of humanity lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

"Biden! Packers or Bucs?"

"Let's go old school - Packers!"

"Thanks Joe!"

"Are the Cardinals still in St Louis?"

"No, they're in Arizona now!"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link

Maybe it would facilitate discussion if we could have an automatic script pop up on any politics post that says "STIPULATED: Joe Biden is a corporate whore who actively hates poor people and grinds their bones to make his bread."

Then whatever came after it could maybe be discussed on its own merits.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link

Genuinely shocked at that gyac post.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link

just assume everyone knows this & is posting anyway xpost

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

Apparently we can't assume it, we have to say it every time we open our mouths or we're cheering for empire.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link

Lol I have no issues with Biden's family bible, just thought instantly of the Harry Potter man eating book when I saw those massive straps holding it shut.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link

Such a joy to click on a news story and read "former president Donald Trump"

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link

I'm actually writing a story for tomorrow and got to use that phrase, I enjoyed it.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

Empire sucks, Mindcrime was better

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

"former hotel owner and occasional politician, Donald Trump"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

Maybe it would facilitate discussion if we could have an automatic script pop up on any politics post that says "STIPULATED: Joe Biden is a corporate whore who actively hates poor people and grinds their bones to make his bread."

Then whatever came after it could maybe be discussed on its own merits.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 4:26 PM (thirteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

The left won't agree with Biden's autocratic scripts.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

If everyone's on the same page to start with, the level of outrage when a negative viewpoint is expressed seems unwarranted.

Shouldn't it just be a shrug and 'yeah'?

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:35 (three years ago) link

*punches* "No!"

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

No because it usually takes the form of some kind of lefter-than-thou posture. The reason Alfred reacted the way he did wasn't because of the utterly banal observation that ceremonial American pageantry provides window dressing for a litany of past and present horrors, but the inherent accusation that people "itt" were lapping that shit up like good lil goose-steppers.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link

Otm

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

idk y'all let's just shut it down

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

posting was a nice experiment but I think it's run its course

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

a dude comes in your house to play Atari. the only game you have is E.T.

It's awful and you and your friend hate playing it. But your mother is picking up the only game that is being carried at the local Pic 'n Save, Pole Position.

you're thrilled that it's a better game to play, but your friend points out that the game sucks. you laugh - yeah it kinda does. he repeats it. you laugh again. he repeats it five minutes later, even as you're both screaming at the TV cos CIA guy got you....again, or you got stuck at the bottom of a well and couldn't do the throat-expansion escape properly.

both of you begin to hate your existence - you don't want to play this shitty game, but you don't want to go OUTSIDE because that's boring ,and besides there are a lot of ET fans out there who don't like what you've been saying about the game, and are waiting to beat you up, so you keep playing it, dreaming of when the mediocre Pole Position will arrive. your friend keeps pointing out how C- that game is and how it's probably a waste of time, but you're starting to get annoyed now, because you know it's not a great game, but you are dying to play something that isn't fucking ET.

finally you let out a primal scream after you die again on ET and you destroy the game until there are shards of plastic wedged into all of your fingers and thumb and you are bleeding on the carpet, and your mom walks in, unfazed because this happens every Tuesday, and she has Pole Position. and you put it on and are feeling so much better that you don't have to play ET again, but your friend immediately starts harping on what a crap game Pole Position is and chastises you for moments of levity during the game.

Quiz question - why did u murder your friend? a "difference of opinion"?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

No one was singled out, no specific references were made - so why would anyone not taking part assume the statement refers to them?

The "leftier than thou posture" is the usual excuse for ganging up here, but I've yet to see where anyone has called Biden celebrants (or Obama celebrants or etc.) bad people or anything of the like. It's more like just seeing "leftier" viewpoints is offensive in and of itself.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

what is "going outside" in this metaphor? xp

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

it's not so much a metaphor as a story that got out of hand

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

ok, so, new thread tomorrow, now that we just blew up this one?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

*opens and pokes head in door*

It's a good day, everyone! uh... *looks around*

Think I'm going to go back to ILM and finalize my EOY lists.

*closes door*

octobeard, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link

When did 'leftist' start meaning 'has difficulty with reading comprehension'

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link

Neanderthal, I really enjoyed that

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

Shouldn't it just be a shrug and 'yeah'?
Shouldn't it just be a shrug and 'yeah'?
Shouldn't it just be a shrug and 'yeah'?
Shouldn't it just be a shrug and 'yeah'?
Shouldn't it just be a shrug and 'yeah'?
Shouldn't it just be a shrug and 'yeah'?
Shouldn't it just be a shrug and 'yeah'?

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

In actually important news...

Biden Moves To Oust Top Labor Board Attorney Peter Robb

The Biden administration has asked for the resignation of the National Labor Relations Board’s general counsel, Trump-appointee Peter Robb, according to four people familiar with the decision.

The White House notified Robb of its decision by letter, which specified he had until 5 p.m. Wednesday to voluntarily resign or be fired, two people with knowledge of the correspondence said.

The NLRB enforces private-sector workers’ rights to organize, and its general counsel has sweeping authority to determine which types of cases the agency does or doesn’t pursue. Robb, a former management-side attorney who helped Ronald Reagan defeat the air traffic controller’s union, has pushed an aggressive, pro-business agenda at the labor board.

His term is slated to last until this coming November, but unions, including the Service Employees International Union and Communications Workers of America, have been urging Biden to break with precedent by forcing him out immediately, in order to begin reorienting the agency toward protecting workers.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

yep that was briefly noted earlier, fabulous news

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

Careful don't wanna be too imperial

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

Sorry, that was just needlessly shit-stirry of me. It's just frustrating when overtly/stridently leftist posters assume that others don't share or accept their views just because they aren't as overt/strident.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

Both GA senators sworn in

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link

ilx

me (patriotic american): ohhh i am so horny for uncle joe oooo sexy daddy yes americans can finally be aroused by their sexy president again yes 🤤🤤🤤

you (unamerican communist): you are being weird

— Rajat Suresh (@rajat_suresh) January 20, 2021

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

*unbookmarks thread*

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

(Waited four years to do that!)

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

I heard on the radio that Pence was apparently angling for some polite face time after the ceremony. I assume he was iced out and then just ghosted?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

"lookit all the fucking corporate lapdogs itt"

*everyone in thread* "wtf?"

"hey i din't single anyone out. musta hit a nerve huh?"

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link

I like a lot of you and know that we're ostensibly on the same side, despite my more strident expression of certain views.

I also felt lighter this morning.

But I also don't think that stating that the US is an unredeemable project and we're all fools for playing along is totally out of bounds. I include myself in that category of foolishness.

Finally, because of the way Twitter and other social media works, I've found that sometimes my anger and frustration with popular narratives gets transferred to here, occasionally leading to strident and shitty posts. I'm going to work on that.

Glad those executive orders are going through. Hopefully more in the next days. And hopefully there's some sort of actual response to the pandemic soon.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:20 (three years ago) link

Memo sent by the new @WhiteHouse chief of staff to heads of executive departments and agencies on freezing new regulations pending review. pic.twitter.com/Vrd8JVQA0V

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) January 20, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:24 (three years ago) link

got some content for this thread. here we go.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

lock thraed

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link

I was upset before but then I saw the picture caek posted and now I am extremely upset

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link

Leo in Miller's Crossing: "Running things--sheesh."

https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.net/static/2021/01/2021-01-20T184412Z_944697807_RC2UBL9FCDR3_RTRMADP_3_USA-BIDEN-INAUGURATION1-1024x683.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:27 (three years ago) link

But I also don't think that stating that the US is an unredeemable project and we're all fools for playing along is totally out of bounds. I include myself in that category of foolishness.

I cannot view the US as an unredeemable project because I have children and, assuming I die before them, I can't in good conscience leave them with a country/world that wants them dead. It's my responsibility to do what I can to make both the world an easier place for them to live and for them to better protect themselves from the parts of it that want to harm them.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

President Biden on the letter left for him by President Trump: “The president wrote a very generous letter.” He says he won’t get into details before talking with Trump.

— Matt Viser (@mviser) January 20, 2021

Probably just the bathroom codes.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

amanda gorman's poem - and her reading of it - were wonderful earlier today. and only 22!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz4YuEvJ3y4

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link

"Trump" and "generous" in the same sentence does not compute

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:33 (three years ago) link

he's going to make him call him president before he gives him credit for the letter

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:34 (three years ago) link

(which i assume someone else wrote)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:34 (three years ago) link

(It's important that I correct my post above: Caspar, not Leo.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link

DJP, I respect that, and just think we have different ideas about how to reduce that harm. And that's okay.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:37 (three years ago) link

the letter said

roses r red
violents (sic) are blu (sic)
when u use the bathroom
look what i left for u

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:37 (three years ago) link

That’s a bust of labor organizer Cesar Chavez right behind the president’s desk. https://t.co/YmM8YMAwDR

— Matt Pearce 🦅 (@mattdpearce) January 20, 2021

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link

Sucks that the prez always has to face away from the windows.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

I bet they have a chair that swivels.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:43 (three years ago) link

Yeah, but then it's more obvious when they are just daydreaming and can't pretend to be working hard.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

Nixon was just a big ole swingin dick so

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:46 (three years ago) link

amanda gorman's poem - and her reading of it - were wonderful earlier today. and only 22!

OK, she's at least 5 years older than I thought she was.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:47 (three years ago) link

Ned thanks for posting that link re: freezing all new regulations, more good news

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

i guess someone hasn't read miriam pawel's biography of cesar chavez.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

Amanda Gorman just graduated from Harvard last year

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

I can't read the article c os my paywall breaker isnt working on this site (Law360) but supposedly Lin Wood and Powell are arguing in court they shouldn't be disbarred because they didn't sign the pleading docs or appear in the matter...lol

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:51 (three years ago) link

freezing all new regulations

this has become a first day ritual when incoming presidents are of a different party. the next republican will do exactly the same. but, yes, it is good, especially in the present circumstances.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:51 (three years ago) link

i'm happier today than i thought i'd be. immediately stopping the ecological / humanitarian disaster that is the border wall? yes please.

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link

also bears ears / grand staircase is such a huge deal and made me cry

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:53 (three years ago) link

i just need them to come thru on student loan debt. a lot more than 10 grand. also extend the relief period. surely they'll at least do that, thought i haven't heard anything about it...

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link

I think extending the relief for federal loans was one of the EOs, map!

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link

Loving this Breitbart headline:

Biden Gets to Work: Amnesty Would Elevate Elites, Migrants; Sideline Normal Citizens

Americans Last

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link

also APPARENTLY osita nwanevu is 27 years old. 27. fuuuuuuuuuuuu

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

dang, shit got heated

I'm still feeling great

even if all that happens is the executive orders and the freeze on Trump's agency changes, we're already better off

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link

xp the EO will extend the suspension of payments until this fall, but doesn't forgive any of the debt, i thought

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link

Ilx already better tbh

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:08 (three years ago) link

xp the EO will extend the suspension of payments until this fall, but doesn't forgive any of the debt, i thought

― Karl Malone, Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:07 PM (fifty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

thank you!!

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link

i'm always on the lookout for good kicking-the-can-down-the-road news, since i will have the can in front of me for the rest of my life afaict

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link

Can I just say that I love the sound of "Minority Leader Mitch McConnell"?

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link

Student loan payments paused until Sep 30, eviction moratorium until March 31

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link

i wasn't clear what i was thanking you for, km. thank you for signing this executive order! much appreciated. xp

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

and thanks for co-signing it djp

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

aw map yeah I thought of u when I saw that Big Ears thing

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

the thing that makes me the happiest about all this is that i no longer have to reserve any mental space for ghouls like mark meadows or kayleighghgh mcennenneneh

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link

<3 xp

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link

what was the point of Trump even ordering new regulations Monday and yesterday?

akm, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link

never having to see kayleigh's face again is definitely going to make my load a little bit lighter

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:14 (three years ago) link

btw, I am not sure what job prospects are like where you are but it’s worth enquiring if any employers in your field/hiring for things you can do are taking advantage of the tax benefits in the CARES Act for companies that contribute payments to their employees’ student loan debt

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:14 (three years ago) link

wow, good to know. ty.

i work for the state gov, so i qualify for forgiveness in 10 years for the vast majority of my loans. i know i have to be in a payment program to start the clock but i'm tight for a few months and need to pay some major taxes in april. also, probably getting a raise in july. so a few months of breathing room will help.

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link

sorry to talk about my personal finances itt lol

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

i am applying for forgiveness in 2 weeks and this has effectively meant that i got forgiveness about a year earlier than i would have. thx pandemic. map find out what your income based repayment would be--i paid $0 for the year after i was unemployed for a while and all those payments counted. (maybe you already know this but...)

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link

i mean, don't delay being in a payment plan because this would count toward the 120 payments anyway if you start

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

The 1776 Commission was removed from the White House website about an hour after President Joe Biden was sworn into office on Wednesday afternoon.
Now, a search for “1776 report” and “1776 commission” on the White House website comes up blank, giving an error note, which states, “It seems we can’t find what you’re looking for.”

Oh well... "election have consequences",right?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:23 (three years ago) link

you're saying i can be in an ibr but still not make payments through september and have those not-payments count as payments? xp

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link

yes, please do it asap! all of my non-payments since march have counted

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link

never having to see kayleigh's face again is definitely going to make my load a little bit lighter

ditto but for Kellyanne, just a remarkably evil woman

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:25 (three years ago) link

you're saying i can be in an ibr but still not make payments through september and have those not-payments count as payments? xp

― satanist of size (map), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:24 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes, please do it asap! all of my non-payments since march have counted

― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:24 PM (fifty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok! whoops, lol.

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link

i wasn't clear what i was thanking you for, km. thank you for signing this executive order! much appreciated. xp

― satanist of size (map)

i'd say it was the least that anyone could do, given the circumstances, but then i remember the last 4 years, exactly, and remember that there can always be less

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link

sorry lol it just pains me to see others make expensive mistakes (because of the number of expensive mistakes i have made)

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:28 (three years ago) link

ditto but for Kellyanne, just a remarkably evil woman

― frogbs, Wednesday, January 20, 2021 6:25 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

idk i think we will 100% hear from her again, she lives to go on television. hopefully we can get a break until the eventual horrifying gop primary.

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:29 (three years ago) link

sorry lol it just pains me to see others make expensive mistakes (because of the number of expensive mistakes i have made)

― superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, January 20, 2021 11:28 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

sure. i appreciate it a lot actually :)

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

still catching up on today's executive orders, any one of which would really be a banner day in us politics all by itself, in a "friends, let's pause the scuffle for one night - we just won a BIG win" kind of way. like... the muslim country travel ban got 86'ed!!

Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link

Everyone's just drunk and grumpy from toasting Trump's end, after not having drunk much this past year.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link

Whatever payment program you get on, please make sure you stay on top of whatever they ask of you and never, ever deviate from the terms. Never autopilot it; stay on top of all correspondence and make sure that your are meeting every payment you need to make, because otherwise they will kick you off of it and add any accrued interest to your principal and start charging you interest based on that.

btw I now work for a company that processes employer benefits around student loans, ama

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link

true. my loan kept going to different servicers, which for a while resulted in my payment counts being wrong as data was not properly entered each time it got transferred. i didn't keep proof of it because what could possibly go wrong? then you can't log into the old servicer's system and i changed bank accounts, etc. fortunately a few months ago the new servicer fixed it on their own since they've been sued so many times. but i learned to keep my paperwork.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link

i have been reasonably ok about being on top of my student loans, but last year etc. just got off the phone with my servicer apparently all i need to do is fill out the pslf form.

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 20 January 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link

This press conference is....better than expected

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link

My capacity for expectation has been obliterated but yes

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:23 (three years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsM-UC1XYAIvb7d?format=jpg&name=medium

If this doesn't show, it's cover art: Bernie w mask & mittens sitting thru All Things Must Pass

dow, Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link

thinking about things

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFh08JEKDYk

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link

Favourite Bernie that I've seen today.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:37 (three years ago) link

Something screenshotted on twitter about white nationalists may be trying to recruit disillusioned Qanoners (the ones who don't already think of themselves *that* way)---then later somebody tweeted "an interesting dichotomy" between Trump as shit fascist /great for Zionism...will this be the attempted point of entry---?

dow, Thursday, 21 January 2021 00:50 (three years ago) link

Strange that if the guy behind Qanon has outed himself and said the project's over are a load of people going to jump down the rabbit hole after him again. Was it just dismissed as misdirection.

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:08 (three years ago) link

the day that donald j. trump finally became president

JUST HAD TO SLIP ONE MORE OF THESE FUCKING THINGS IN DIDN'T YOU pic.twitter.com/JTf1QmzZCT

— Drew Magary (@drewmagary) January 20, 2021

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

lol can't wait for the post-presidency "increasingly isolated" reports

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:17 (three years ago) link

Feel like when Trump croaks his dying inanity, someone will unironically headline it with “he finally sounded presidential.”

Guys don’t @ me because I tazed my own balls alright? (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link

is there any chance of, i don't know, the southern district of new york announcing criminal charges against trump tomorrow? or this evening?

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

Biden should give the guy who punched Spencer the Medal of Freedom.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

i am ready for the wave of accountability, if it is ever going to come

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

First Presidential dick punch goes to ole Zodiac

By rejoining the Paris Climate Agreement, President Biden indicates he’s more interested in the views of the citizens of Paris than in the jobs of the citizens of Pittsburgh. This agreement will do little to affect the climate and will harm the livelihoods of Americans.

— Senator Ted Cruz (@SenTedCruz) January 20, 2021

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:25 (three years ago) link

I think he’s confused about what the Paris agreement is!

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:26 (three years ago) link

Here we go pic.twitter.com/aVH8lxmKas

— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) January 20, 2021

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link

xpost There's a Paris in Texas, right? Where Harry Dean Stanton lives.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:28 (three years ago) link

The man is relentless.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJwuP8TS/

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:28 (three years ago) link

Treaty of Versailles wtf who cares what a palace in France thinks

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:29 (three years ago) link

Tourist: Look! A bunch of cows.
Cowboy: Not “bunch”—“herd.”
Tourist: Heard what?
Cowboy: Herd of cows.
Tourist: Sure, I’ve heard of cows.
Cowboy: No, a cow herd.
Tourist: I don't care what no cow heard!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

Treaty of Paris is ironically Joe Versailles the volcanoes

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

:(

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:42 (three years ago) link

come on, that was good

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link

dan

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

I'm not saying Sen Cruz is a bit of a dumbbell but his mother obv had very strong arms.

calzino, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

Fpd dan, i dont need the encouragement

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:47 (three years ago) link

This Celebrating America special has flaws.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link

In addition to all of the shitbirds who infested his administration I hope we never hear from or about Haberman again.

Fetchboy, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

Lmao this fucken crew

NEWWWWS -- Michael Flynn's brother was on the call and resisting emergency pleas for the National Guard when the Capitol was under attack Jan. 6. The Army falsely denied it for weeks. me w the greats: @DanLamothe @PaulSonne @byaaroncdavis https://t.co/k6QNnXrwBh

— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) January 21, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

cruz was just echoing a shitty talking point used by trump when he announced he was pulling out of the accord, except no one but cruz cares a damn what instantly forgettable crap trump said way back then.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link

Man-del-baum, Man-del-baum, Man-del-baum...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzA8Zx2C1uc

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link

How can any GOP voter see that “Pittsburgh not Paris” line and not feel that their intelligence was insulted

Oh wait

frogbs, Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link

Yeah Cruz knows what the Paris Agreement is, he's just pandering to people who he thinks don't. I don't think it's going to help him much though. People will vote for a baked potato over him.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 21 January 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link

I don’t think he’s pandering to people who don’t. I think he’s shitposting to get a rise out of people like us because 1) it’s his only political move at this point 2) it’s his kink.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link

Trump actually went to Pittsburgh and said he was gonna bring the smokestacks back, mayor and others were like, "eeww gross." They've moved on.
Pittsburgh Symphony just now beginning w "The Paris, by Mozart," on NPR, believe it or don't

dow, Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link

Pretty good so far!

dow, Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link

I can’t believe there’s a new president I thought we were done with presidents

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link

NEW: White House official confirmed for me that Joe Biden just fired Peter Robb after he refused to resign as NLRB general counsel.

— Dave Jamieson (@jamieson) January 21, 2021



Lovely stuff

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

To be replaced with the drafters of Prop 22 presumably

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link

SATURDAY NIGHT MASSACRE

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link

It’s Thursday!

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link

(That’s a joke I know it’s Monday)

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link

To be replaced with the drafters of Prop 22 presumably


Haha well yes

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link

Prop joe

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link

I think he’s confused about what the Paris agreement is!

He's not this dumb himself: but he believes anyone who still follows him unironically is a giant moron who will either think this is clever, or believe it outright.

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:13 (three years ago) link

I think caek was otm tbh

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link

Lovely stuff

ha ha I also felt a swelling of satisfaction and positivity, thanks silby for the rope-a-dope

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link

I would point out the second tweet in that thread that discusses that the Robb firing is breaking a previous norm. Traditionally, that position would complete the term which is due to end later this year. I'm not going to cry about it since Rs have violated many norms, but this is not just cleaning out a Trump appointee.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link

Officer Goodman, promoted to Acting Deputy Senate Sergeant at Arms, escorting our new VP. #InaugurationDay 

How it started: How it’s going: pic.twitter.com/WF5twCmRTe

— CJ Johnson (@cjjohnsonjr) January 20, 2021

Promoted to a mask that stays on, too.

(The real promotion is also good to see.)

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:22 (three years ago) link

so great

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:30 (three years ago) link

I don't post a lot of National Review stories here, but this one....

https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/witless-ape-rides-helicopter/

pplains, Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:51 (three years ago) link

Trump actually went to Pittsburgh and said he was gonna bring the smokestacks back, mayor and others were like, "eeww gross." They've moved on.
Pittsburgh Symphony just now beginning w "The Paris, by Mozart," on NPR, believe it or don't


It’s nuts cause Pittsburgh’s current economy is based on health care, finance, the universities, and government. Nice that Ted is sticking up for the imaginary Joe Lunchpails hauling slag or something, though.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 21 January 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link

cruz was just echoing a shitty talking point used by trump when he announced he was pulling out of the accord, except no one but cruz cares a damn what instantly forgettable crap trump said way back then.

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless)

Cruz has started his presidential bid campaigning early in the swing states.

nickn, Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link

Think I saw that Biden has already fired a few people. Along with Robb, he apparently canned "Michael Pack, who was confirmed to head the U.S. Agency for Global Media in June" and "Kathleen Kraninger, who was confirmed as director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau in 2018." And the White House chief usher.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

He fired Usher??!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:20 (three years ago) link

Yeah!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:27 (three years ago) link

He gave him a minute and it was off with his clothes (ceremonial uniform)

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:28 (three years ago) link

omg lol JiC

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 21 January 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link

fuck yeah to the Robb firing, may these assholes never hold another professional job for the rest of their lives

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link

ok legit lol at Uday and Qusay in the Kevin D. Williamson rant.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 21 January 2021 04:36 (three years ago) link

I know there'll be ten million of these--I thought this was pretty good.

https://phildellio.tripod.com/pardon.jpg

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 05:06 (three years ago) link

should have been a black sharpie

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 05:14 (three years ago) link

you know what sucks is all those Twitter threads that say "here's some goofy shit you probably forgot" and it'll be stuff like the Orb and the McDonalds spread and the hurricane Sharpie and the truck and the staring directly into a solar eclipse and it's like no those moments are engraved permanently in my brain

frogbs, Thursday, 21 January 2021 05:18 (three years ago) link

CNN only hires the smoothest brains

This team truly understands optics. These images will inspire our friends and shake our foes. pic.twitter.com/8i6qjUiJC5

— Matt Dornic (@mdornic) January 21, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 21 January 2021 05:36 (three years ago) link

Huh?

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:09 (three years ago) link

What foes?

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:10 (three years ago) link

the anti-fireworks lobby

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:28 (three years ago) link

dogs

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:29 (three years ago) link

Russia's going to stop hacking federal agencies because they saw fireworks.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:29 (three years ago) link

look at the size of that monument

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:30 (three years ago) link

Not circumsized

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:31 (three years ago) link

dogs

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl)

and their guardians

+ our friends in the anti-fireworks lobby

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:34 (three years ago) link

+ veterans

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 21 January 2021 06:55 (three years ago) link

I had the layout of the Capitol building wrong. I thought the officer started off with the mob right next to the chamber room and lead them away from it. Not that he started elsewhere and lead them past the entrance as the commentator showed.
If he had the bulk of the mob obscured from him by the L or inverted L shaped corridor doorway is it lucky he didn't wind up with a bunch of the mob milling back in there. Or would that be a gallery looking down on the chamber. Open doorway anyway if the corridor is providing a bottleneck between elements of the crowd and the officer. Weird also that word of what is through the doorway they are mainly heading through. Would think somebody might tell the rear of the group to run or something.

Still pretty heroic move and I hope he does get recognised for it.

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 January 2021 07:54 (three years ago) link

There will be a rescue dog AND a cat inhabiting the White House

living together? mass hysteria!

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Thursday, 21 January 2021 09:14 (three years ago) link

if he can unite those...

StanM, Thursday, 21 January 2021 09:51 (three years ago) link

I saw the commentary by the black policeman who I think is NYPD on the Goodman footage which shows him leading the mob away from one entrance to the senate chamber and it appears that he became aware that he had lead them past the upper entrance. he then comes out with a piece of misdirection where he shoves or at least puts his hand on the chest of the lead mob member then moves away from that entrance. So there is at least abunch of people following him. BUt aren't there like 50 people in the mob? So is it surprising that none of them wonder about teh doorways they are going by.
Or are they only there because they can be lead around like sheep anyway. Would have thought at least somebody might have been curious to see wherethey lead to.

Also looks like the mob is coming in from the left of the picture as they head out of the doorway and are met by other police. So is there no communication passing through the crowd to tell them what is coming up ahead of them and that they might not be best heading in this direction or are they all thinking there's more of us than them?

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:54 (three years ago) link

Give Goodman all the honors and more.

The Bernie meme was played so fast. By maybe 7 or 8 pm it was over for me.

In other news: what an asshole Trump was, and how lucky we are to be rid of him

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/trump-reportedly-extended-24-hour-034700637.html

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:24 (three years ago) link

I don’t know what it was about this particular meme storm that got to me. Certainly the “it’s just another day, cool but I got shit to do” nature of his couture was punk as fuck and a lot of people agreed but ... I mean, how long until he becomes a sticker you see on streetlamps or a tattoo on biceps?

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:45 (three years ago) link

Maybe it just happened too fast for me because I’m getting old

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 21 January 2021 11:45 (three years ago) link

kind of wild that biden is older than bill clinton

he's also the first real d.c. insider to be president since george bush sr i think?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 January 2021 12:47 (three years ago) link

"There is nothing for us to rework. We are going to have to build everything from scratch." -->

Sources told CNN there simply was no vaccine distribution plan under Trump, leaving Biden and his team having to essentially start from "square one." https://t.co/u2hwMVMt10

— MJ Lee (@mj_lee) January 21, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Thursday, 21 January 2021 13:40 (three years ago) link

NO WAY!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 21 January 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link

Hopefully they at least suspected this weeks ago

nashwan, Thursday, 21 January 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link

Nowhere to go but up, right?

Nhex, Thursday, 21 January 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link

Anyone else see the first press secretary conference? Refreshing, to say the least, esp. considering she was given a couple of hardcore questions the very first day, like "does Pres. Biden have faith in FBI director Wray?" and "Has Pres. Biden talked about retribution for the Russian cyber hack or scheduled a call with Putin?" And she was all "guys, most of our team are just turning their computers on for the first time as we speak." But she did throw some nice subtle shade on Russia re: the Putin question. I think her answer was along the lines of "Pres. Biden's first call with a foreign leader will be Friday, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, and then he will likely work his way through friends and allies, and then eventually he'll get to Putin."

Re: vaccine distribution, or lack thereof, what's up with the Deep State asleep on the job? You'd think at least *someone* would have had their head down, working on some sort of a plan. Then again, I can imagine that person getting fired for actually doing their job.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 13:53 (three years ago) link

Warning: link goes to National Review; story is by Kevin Williamson.

Witless Ape Rides Helicopter

Well, that sucked.

Memo to MAGA and all its myriad fellow-travelers: Maybe Death of a Salesman as presented by Leni Riefenstahl just wasn’t the show Americans were dying to tune into this season.

And, while we’re at it, maybe turning your party over to Generalissimo Walter Mitty, his hideous scheming spawn, and the studio audience from Hee-Haw was not just absolutely aces as a political strategy.

Think on it, Cletus. I know this whole thing still sounds like your idea of a good time — how’s that working out for you?

Let me refresh your memory: On the day Donald Trump was sworn in as president, Republicans controlled not only the White House but both houses of Congress. They were in a historically strong position elsewhere as well, controlling both legislative chambers in 32 states. They pissed that away like they were midnight drunks karaoke-warbling that old Chumbawumba song: In 2021, they control approximately squat. The House is run by Nancy Pelosi. The Senate is run, as a practical matter, by Kamala Harris. And Joe Biden won the presidency, notwithstanding whatever the nut-cutlet guest-hosting for Dennis Prager this week has to say about it.

Donald Trump is, in fact, the first president since Herbert Hoover to lead his party to losing the presidency, the House, and the Senate all in a single term. Along with being the first president to be impeached twice and the first game-show host elected to the office, that’s Trump’s claim to the history books. Well, that and 400,000 dead Americans and the failed coup d’état business.

The title is a callback: In 2015, Williamson wrote a piece titled "Witless Ape Rides Escalator."

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link

Does having possible defendants having been pardoned limit how investigations can go or would it remove the efficacy of the pardons.
Just wondering if there is a protocol about how close one can get to a person with a pardon i criminal investigation or anything.
Hoping that it is just something taht can be overlooked if the evidence points squarely at an individual but could see an establihment institution wanting to tread carefully.

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link

do I recall seeing that if you've been pardoned you can't plead the fifth?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:28 (three years ago) link

yeah have heard that several times over the last few weeks

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

congrats on the pardon steve

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link

Re: that Williamson piece— once again, and sorry to repeat myself, but it is simply *dangerous* to relegate QAnon, Trumpers, and etc. to the realm of "Cletus"-esque hillbillies, because for the most part, they're not.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link

yep, they are rich white suburbans

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

did having them be possibly marginalised disguise how dangerous they could appear and if so was there any benefit in that. Other tahn to disguise how they were the them ion an us and them with working class GOP supporters.
LIke was teh Cletus/hillbilly/great unwashed thing purely external projection or was it partially disguise

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 January 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

Kevin Williamson has a history of sneering at the poor. He also wrote this paragraph:

The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die. Economically, they are negative assets. Morally, they are indefensible. Forget all your cheap theatrical Bruce Springsteen crap. Forget your sanctimony about struggling Rust Belt factory towns and your conspiracy theories about the wily Orientals stealing our jobs … The white American underclass is in thrall to a vicious, selfish culture whose main products are misery and used heroin needles. Donald Trump’s speeches make them feel good. So does OxyContin.

But table is OTM that his characterization of the Capitol Rioters is off-base.

This Adam Serwer piece is good:

They were business owners, CEOs, state legislators, police officers, active and retired service members, real-estate brokers, stay-at-home dads, and, I assume, some Proud Boys.

The mob that breached the Capitol last week at President Donald Trump’s exhortation, hoping to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election, was full of what you might call “respectable people.” They left dozens of Capitol Police officers injured, screamed “Hang Mike Pence!,” threatened to murder House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and set up a gallows outside the building. Some were extremists using the crowd as cover, but as federal authorities issue indictments, a striking number of those they name appear to be regular Americans.

And there’s nothing surprising about that. Although any crowd that size is bound to include people who are struggling financially, no one should be shocked to see the middle classes so well represented among the mob.

The notion that political violence simply emerges out of economic desperation, rather than ideology, is comforting. But it’s false. Throughout American history, political violence has often been guided, initiated, and perpetrated by respectable people from educated middle- and upper-class backgrounds. The belief that only impoverished people engage in political violence—particularly right-wing political violence—is a misconception often cultivated by the very elites who benefit from that violence.

The members of the mob that attacked the Capitol and beat a police officer to death last week were not desperate. They were there because they believed they had been unjustly stripped of their inviolable right to rule. They believed that not only because of the third-generation real-estate tycoon who incited them, but also because of the wealthy Ivy Leaguers who encouraged them to think that the election had been stolen.

jaymc, Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

God, that first Williamson 'graph you quoted is execrable.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

That Kevin Williamson piece is terrible, like all his work, and it wasn’t better the second time it was posted here.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

yeah, it's a lot of privileged people cosplaying an underground, street level role. which they're ill-suited for mentally but compensate for with heavy artillery and weaponry.

I don't know that the military component of the insurrection neatly Venn diagrams with QAnon - a lot of them are just folk with hard-right wing beliefs that tend to lack critical thinking skills and want to believe their guy was cheated because, well, he said so.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

It’s fun to scapegoat the poor for the crimes of extremists and millionaires. Feels good like OxyContin.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

I’m all for moving the qanon cesspool stuff to another thread but table otm that sneering at cleetuses doesn’t work (well, it probably works for Kevin Williamson, I’m sure he did very well out of the never trump grift).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

fuckin' christ. is he a libertarian by chance? (Williamson)

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

a lot of privileged people cosplaying an underground, street level role

They're here to embody the voice of the voiceless, don't u see?

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

Has anyone checked on dilbert guy

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

I’m sure he also blames mass incarceration and generational poverty on the “culture” of urban black communities. Same attitude, different target: he is finding a group of underprivileged people to blame for the failures of the Republican party.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

really the face of the QAnon, even though they weren't really QAnon, are Mark and Patricia McCloskey, affluent asshole lawyers holding hand cannons they weren't even using properly and waving them in the faces of minorities who weren't threatening them

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

Has anyone checked on dilbert guy

― zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, January 21, 2021 11:10 AM bookmarkflaglink

went back to Melmac

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link

The real face of QAnon is Donald Trump’s face.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

Donald Trump's ass more like

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

Highlights asks:

SPOT THE DIFFERENCE

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link

That Williamson piece is a cogent reminder that, while never-Trumpers are able to see what a piece of shit he is, they only hate him because they're stumping for a different but equally shitty piece of shit.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

NRO keeps Williamson around because he better express their contempt for the poor who will never ride on the NRO cruise.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

*expresses

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

Has anyone checked on dilbert guy

You know, I was reading the Sunday paper a week or so ago and I was struck by the fact that Dilbert guy just goes on putting up normal "isn't office life amusing" comics through it all, which, I guess, why not? The real estate agents who stay up all night feverishly parsing Q probably go on selling houses every day in a normal way.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

As for the class status of the Capitol insurrectionists; it seems to me that this particular strain of greivance politics cuts across class lines, and in the crowd were well-heeled suburbanites and working-class people Kevin Williamson would consider hopeless yokels, and that neither of these groups represented a "well in any big crowd of course there are a few" afterthought, they were both really there!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:29 (three years ago) link

xpost There's cognitive dissonance and then there's maintaining a comfortable upper-to-middle class existence while actively attempting to destroy the facets of society that allow you to maintain that particular existence. It's a state of mind that I'm completely incapable of wrapping my head around.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link

Re: that Williamson piece— once again, and sorry to repeat myself, but it is simply *dangerous* to relegate QAnon, Trumpers, and etc. to the realm of "Cletus"-esque hillbillies, because for the most part, they're not.

― The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:45 AM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yep, they are rich white suburbans

― Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, January 21, 2021 10:47 AM (forty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Why can't they be rich white hillbillies? You can take the hillbilly out of the hill, etc.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

Existential boredom is a helluva drug.

xp

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

the entire concept of hillbillies is not helpful in any way

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

Apologies, and certainly agree that they were not rural working class whites.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

JETHRO IS Q!

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

Barndomaniacs

Evan, Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

i think the takeaway is that militant white supremacy is appealing to just about any white (and also not technically white!) person you can imagine across the class spectrum. as far as kevin williamson goes, rich or "respectable" conservative culture has to find a balance between keeping a toe in the white supremacy club and bashing poor people when it suits them. a game of strategic whack-a-mole. nro is the worst and i really wish people would stop talking about them or linking to them as if they should be responded to in any way.

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:45 (three years ago) link

but part of it is the "they have money and advanced degrees" pass that gets you into any conversation in america no matter how reprehensible your opinions.

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

replace "advanced" with "ivy league"

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

The Muslim ban is no more and I am grateful. Most people who haven’t been personally impacted might not get the significance and think of it as only “symbolic” but for us it’s significant. https://t.co/OXQGNnmCkq

— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) January 21, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

Rep. Greene has not introduced her promised Articles of Impeachment yet. According to a GOP source in her district, Greene "thought it would be a lot easier than it is." https://t.co/k0Bk8cjpGn

— Charles Bethea (@charlesbethea) January 21, 2021

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

ahahahahaha

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

"I thought our desks had Impeach buttons"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

now there's the news I want

any new executive orders?

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

These Qongresspeople are going to get chewed to pieces trying to galaxy brain their way through procedural minutiae.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

not surprising, he's just gonna spend years whining about everyone being unfair to Trump

No one is above the law, but if Trump is targeted for destruction for reasons that look like revenge rather than justice, I'll be taking that VERY personally. I don't think I am alone in that opinion. Actions have consequences.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) January 21, 2021

frogbs, Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

yes, Scott, everything is about you and your shitty comic

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link

Such a tedious child of a man.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

"Actions have consequences"

Yes, ransacking the Capitol has consequences.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

Who does Marjorie mean by "The Big Guy"? Boss Hogg? George "The Animal" Steele?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

Ric Flair

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

I just found out that George "The Animal" Steele had a graduate degree in physical fitness education.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

ahahahahah

I have no problem with REAL crimes being prosecuted so long as all of our citizens are treated similarly.

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) January 21, 2021

frogbs, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

xp and was an ILX poster!

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link

I thought he had some kind of other degree.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

Hmm, not sure now: After earning a bachelor of science degree from Michigan State University and a master's degree from Central Michigan University,[9] Myers became a teacher, amateur wrestling coach, and football coach at Madison High School in Madison Heights, Michigan.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link

Oh hey, I made a joke post about him once this is the thread where you impersonate other ilxors

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

Hey, that trick worked pretty well.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

So is the idea of getting rid of the filibuster to hopefully lock into place new rules and laws that won't or can't easily be immediately reversed if the Dems lose the senate? Because isn't that what will happen, kind of like with the White House and executive orders?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

Don't think Dems are worried about that if they have the Presidential veto, but the moment they don't....

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

my understanding is that there's a fairly narrow set of things that can be done by EO, and yes, they'll get reversed on day 1 of the next republican presidency. a lot of fiscal/budget stuff can be done with 50+1 by "reconciliation", but anything else requires 60 to break a filibuster, and that includes immigration reform.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

basically they either need to convince 10(!) republican senators to vote with them on immigration reform, or get rid of the filibuster.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

Let’s literally fuck around with getting rid of the fillibuster and see what happens it will probably be dope /nots

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link

filibuster rules were invented by the senate and can be reinvented by the senate.

we should expect that if and when the GOP gets back in power, they will abuse the system as much as they can, and they will justify it all on vengeance against what the democrats did. that was one reason that the "nuclear option" was avoided for so long - the fear of provoking the GOP into a neverending ragestorm of "vengeance". somewhere in the last 4 years, it has become very, very, very clear that they are already in that ragestorm of vengeance, and that they no longer possess functional consciences. the nuclear option became the only option, thanks to them

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

Closing tiiiime

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link

at this point we might as well do it but lord let's try and hold onto at least one chamber of Congress for the next decade

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link

*pessimism alert*

i expect the GOP to take back house and senate in 2022

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link

whether they destroy the filibuster or not

so might as well use it and try to save the country imo

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link

house yes, senate no

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link

actually, do i believe that? maybe i believe that democrats will retain house (due to totally manual, abacus-era district redrawing based on census) while the senate will swing back to good old mcconnell

xp lol, i came to the opposite conclusion, and now i'm lonely

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

Nonsense, there's two of you now.

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

one
has produced
two

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

Hits keep coming:

As one of his first orders of business, President Biden asks for and receives the resignation of Michael Pack as head of the Voice of America. Pack had effectively turned the VoA into a propaganda arm of the Trump administration.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

honestly getting the loyalists out of positions they're not qualified for and de-politicizing national security roles is one of the big anxiety relievers for me

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

yep, plz keep those news bits coming, thanks

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:44 (three years ago) link

McConnell is threatening to filibuster the Organizing Resolution which allows Democrats to assume the committee Chair positions. It’s an absolutely unprecedented, wacky, counterproductive request. We won the Senate. We get the gavels.

— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) January 21, 2021

This is what comes from skipping a step.

Step 1: Win the presidency
Step 2: Keep the House
Step 3: Win the Senate

Step 4: Assassinate Mitch McConnell

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

Obstruction is a helluva drug

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link

Glad to see that much of our democracy still depends on the whims of one fucking man. Great system America.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

he's doing it because he wants guaranteed protections to the filibuster

i think he just called ur bluff. end it

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link

you could also see it as being on another person - joe manchin (and kirsten sinema)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

Even my small-town local library, on an avowedly apolitical Facebook group, has a Bernie meme this morning. It's out of control. Carry on.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

just to be clear, the negotiation right now is not about getting rid of the filibuster. it's about the meta question of whether schumer will promise never to get rid of the filibuster. it's an absolutely insane demand from mcconnell.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

(which of course means schumer will take it because his imaginary friends think it's fair)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

ok, i don't think this is likely, but in the spirit of making grandiose predictions based on the gut: if the democrats don't dump the filibuster and get shit done during this window, the democratic party will split before the GOP

(8:1)

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link

No it won't.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

yes it will, 1/8th of the time

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

(anytime anyone frames an argument as "there are only three options:", you know it's going to be fucking dumb)

there are only three options:

1) mcconnell and GOP start to cooperate and behave with the wellbeing of the country in mind - waves of progressive legislation are quickly passed in a tsunami of bipartisan unity
2) schumer and democrats try to go back to the past, and spend their window of opportunity negotiating with the GOP, shockingly ending up with watered-down legislation, too little, too late, with zero GOP votes
3) abolish the filibuster

here's where my incredibly dumb idea comes in: if 1) doesn't happen (and it NEVER FUCKING WILL), and Democrats end up going for 2) rather than 3), than 4) i will shit my pants and it will be a more promising political party than the Democratic one that chooses to negotiate with these fucking assholes

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link

at that point, i think everyone on the left will automatically obtain their Limit Breaks ---> Knights of the Round Table, 9999, we're done here

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

On the day Donald Trump was sworn in as president, Republicans controlled not only the White House but both houses of Congress. They were in a historically strong position elsewhere as well, controlling both legislative chambers in 32 states. They pissed that away like they were midnight drunks karaoke-warbling that old Chumbawumba song

GOP-controlled Congress, Senate and Executive, what's on your karaoke playlist?

Dutiful Servants And Political Masters
Baby Waved A Flag
Always Tell The Voter What The Voter Wants To Hear
The Triumph Of General Ludd
The Candidates Find Common Ground
Baby Killers
Tiananmen Square
...And In A Nutshell "Food Aid Is Our Most Powerful Weapon"

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

quick thought, had to put this somewhere

guy fieri should run for president

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

Not me. Us. pic.twitter.com/ec7XgfEl7b

— Guy Fieri (@GuyFieri) January 21, 2021

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

he's running

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

LOLOLOL sic <3

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

if the democrats don't dump the filibuster and get shit done during this window, the democratic party will split before the GOP

The Democrats won't have to splinter, they'd just be reduced to a rump opposition after the GOP takes power and completely ignores the result of pesky things like "who won the Presidential election."

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

There is a lot of stuff to do, I don't see what's so wrong with doing a lot of very popular and urgent things in the first 100 days with 50 votes and reconciliation, then returning to immigration and HR1 when they are in a politically stronger position; I guess because I believe the things Dems want to do are Actually Good I believe they're in a stronger political position once they've done them, ymmv

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link

eturning to immigration and HR1 when they are in a politically stronger position

i'm 0 for whatever today, but fwiw i think they're in their strongest position, right now

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

it's not often that one political party open aides and abets a coup for several months after an election.

but america forgets

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

BRB, changing political affiliation to the KM Shitpants Party.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link

I heard the Biden administration is offering a $25,000 reward to whomever manages to photoshop Bernie and his chair into the final extant piece of culture.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

fwiw i think they're in their strongest position, right now

tbh I see the argument for that, too.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

I heard the Biden administration is offering a 5,000 reward to whomever manages to photoshop Bernie and his chair into the final extant piece of culture.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, January 21, 2021

Quick, someone find me copies of the pics of Tuomas in his speedo and I'll split the money with you.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

This already old news by Twitter age standards, but Scott Adams:

if Trump is targeted for destruction for reasons that look like revenge rather than justice...

what jumps out there is "looks like". iow, if his emotions get tweaked, it's the equivalent of a crime in his mind.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

Fauci just announced the end of Trump's Gag Rule that defunded NGOs who even discussed abortion with women.

This meant closing women's health services, family planning clinics, HIV clinics. Studies found use of birth control DROPPED by 14% & abortion rose by 40% as a result.

— Amy Maxmen, PhD (@amymaxmen) January 21, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

thank you based Fauci

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

One reason I love this place: y'all are the only other group to shit on Williamson's shit take. Three libs I know in the last hour have shared it and said, "You can't believe what NRO published!"

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

There's no shortage of ways to be wrong, is the jist.

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

BUTTON NO MORE: A button in the Oval Office that provided instant Diet Coke to former President Trump appears to be no more.

The infamous device installed at the Resolute Desk wasn't visible in photos of President Biden captured Thursday at the White House...

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

infamous

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

after I read this thread I warned all of my friends not to share that NRO shit thanks to that 2016 quote from Williamscock

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

not that I dont' already tell them not to share NRO shit regardless of who wrote it

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

I think I like this guy... plus you think your country is stupid?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9171789/Joe-Biden-removes-bust-Winston-Churchill-Oval-Office.html

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

i don't understand why anyone would like that piece. it's just republicans trying to pretend that poor people are the reason their party became -- in addition to ruthless and amoral, which it always was -- lawless over the part four years.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

like an unironic version of "Kill the Poor"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

i'm interested to know why unperson linked it

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

A transatlantic row is brewing over 'woke' Joe Biden's removal of a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office...

Ehh, think the 'row' is pretty one-sided.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

Biden's COVID briefing seemed encouraging as far as immediate action goes, but who knows. He talked about vaccinators, but did not mention vaccinatees. He snapped at a question right near the end (one of those OAN weirdos? not sure); he's tired of the job already.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

"hillbillies" are not the problem with america. the slaveowners who inaugurated our system of white supremacy weren't "hillbilles." you have to be a complete moral idiot to glance over the landscape of america and decide that the blame, the ultimate blame, lies with those who lack power.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

Waldman:

And beyond Biden himself as a personality, something else is different now.

That outrage machine works not only by getting conservatives worked up so that, for instance, they’ll turn out to vote in the midterm elections, but also by creating fear in Democrats, fear that alters those Democrats’ behavior. But I don’t know that I've ever seen a time when Democrats were less afraid of Republicans.

Yes, there are plenty of moderate Democrats who advocate centrist solutions and worry about ticking off their constituents if they go too far to the left. But as a whole, Democrats now have a deeper understanding of the dynamics of Republican opposition than they used to. That includes Biden himself and those around him.

They’ve learned from the mistakes of the Obama years, including the way his administration and congressional Democrats negotiated with themselves and assumed that substantive concessions and good-faith bargaining could get Republicans to support legislation that would be of political benefit to a Democratic president.

The Biden team is not in the grip of that delusion. All indications are that they start from the assumption that Republican opposition will be total; they’re willing to take a shot at getting some Republican support for, say, a covid-19 relief package, but they won’t waste too much time chasing it.

Guess he's talked to unnamed sources.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

he's tired of the job already.

I'm tired of your random speculative musings already

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link

i feel good about biden in that office, especially if he's really learned the lessons he needed to from the obama years.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

That's called a joke--never mind, carry on doing what you do.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

#Biden sad the new US president has removed bust of Winston Churchill from oval Office but to replace him with the hard left failed socialist Cesar Chavez is very worrying

— Andrew Pierce (@toryboypierce) January 21, 2021

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

biden's goal is to vaccinate 1m/day. someone should tell him we vaccinated 1.5m yesterday and averaged 930k/day in the last seven days and maybe we should aim a little higher than "what the trump administration managed".

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

Not "concerning." We've moved up to DEFCON 1, i.e. "worrying."

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

i feel like it's a powerful symbol. immigrants, the working class--i hope biden *really does* see these as his constituencies. i know his record suggests he doesn't but it's a new era now.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

(xpost) Same point Gupta made on CNN (and has been making for the past week or two).

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

100 million a day would be nice

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

Two of our three local hospital networks have canceled scheduled vaccination appointments in the last two days. Shit's bad.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

On #COVID19 @POTUS #Biden just signed ten exec orders aimed at expanding access to care & vaccination, mobilize @FEMA & National Guards, provide clarity about opening schools & businesses, invoke the Defense Production Act for all COVID-related supplies, and
MORE pic.twitter.com/ZG25WkCgd2

— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) January 21, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

Xpost Ugh.

Gotta hope installing Biden's federal strategy that he EOed earlier will help

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

2/ require pre-boarding testing of all air passengers coming to USA and mandatory quarantine on arrival.
He warns that 100,000 more Americans will die of the disease in the next month, and "things are going to get worse before they get better."
His plan: https://t.co/6llBROPI5E

— Laurie Garrett (@Laurie_Garrett) January 21, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

Quick, someone find me copies of the pics of Tuomas in his speedo and I'll split the money with you.

Lol, maybe we should also add him to the so not gonna happen picture too, just in case.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link

that one would be excellent imo

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

I mean, my photoshop skills are terrible so happy to just put the idea out in the universe.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

Cesar Chavez was no saint, but at least he didn't have five gin & tonics before breakfast.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

That sounds kinda good, now that I think about it.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link

Who among us, etc.?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link

churchill being a drunk is his most humanizing quality

Fenners' Pen (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

reciting Shelley by the yard too

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

That and having ginger hair.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

churchill committed genocidal atrocities in order to preserve the crumbling british empire.

chavez saw undocumented workers as a threat to the bargaining power of his union and supported tight borders.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

Actual WaPo headline:

Woman accused of stealing Pelosi’s laptop is released from detention, placed in mother’s custody

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

i'd say churchill is more fucked up by a lot. his most humanizing quality though wasn't his drinking but his painting.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

thot that said panting at first

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

imo, let the British tabloids fume and sputter about Churchill. It's a tempest in a teapot and the US has far more urgent issues to address.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

... did you just call Churchill a thot (xp)

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link

thot that said panting at first

Well, all those cigars couldn't have been good for his respiration.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

The headline here is a little deranged but the book this article reviews is excellent imo

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/07/the-madness-of-cesar-chavez/308557/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

Wasn't Churchill an amateur bricklayer as well? I always thought that was an odd hobby.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

I hope his brickie's eye was better than his painter's eye

calzino, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

he also wrote several huge books and lived to be 90-something despite drinking two bottle of champagne and a half bottle of whiskey per day or something

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

u know who else painted

imago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

Heh, was just thinking that

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

Tell me about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbYHBGYwthA

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

are we sure Trump didn't steal the Churchill bust?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

u know who else painted

Tony Bennett?

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

Bush as painter >>>> Churchill as painter

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

u know who else painted

https://gardenandgun.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/president-bush-painting-1100x1560.jpg

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

Looool at Tony Bennett.

There was a time when I didn’t like Kenneth Mars because he was too over-the-top but that time is long past.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

Tommy DeVito's mom painted.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

bush's paintings have more pathos in em because they are driven, maybe unconsciously, by guilt

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

but churchill's landscapes were fine, idk. sterile and empty but i'd rather have that on my wall than a childish portrait of putin.

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

Blast it. Wasn't even a good joke anyway.

i'm so into fping right now (Eric H.), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

Here you go:

https://hg1.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Bob_da90d9_324456.jpg

(I think it's funny.)

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

This thread has gone off the rails, I love it

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

Oh and we mustn't forget Franco:

https://www.miradorarts.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/02-Franco.jpg

pomenitul, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

maybe we really will go down to a few posts a day. you love to see it.

satanist of size (map), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

When I woke up today the world seemed less filled with immanent threats to my physical and mental well-being than it has since late August. I realize that the scale that is graphed against has been unnervingly out of whack lately. It's not like today's reality is all sunshine and puppies. But my sense of threat reduction is real enough.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

man, Fauci looks euphoric at this press conference.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/tQ1mqX2.png

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

Only trust them as far as you can throw them, but this is what normal looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr6S0rZhDWk

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link

You constantly hear about how much contempt the public has for the media, but keeping them on your side--or at least not hostile--makes life much simpler.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 January 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link

Lol it’s so good how her cadence just sounds like she’s Johnny Knoxville about to ride a lunch tray off of a water slide https://t.co/Ll7r8Tk8ho

— so, ,uh, (@Hegelbon) January 21, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link

i hate her so much

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

"we'll see how this goes... nowhere"

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:23 (three years ago) link

assuming they get referred to House Judiciary Committee, this means Obama is still the only post-Carter prez to not have any articles referred against him lol

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link

it goes to the committee...and dies.

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:26 (three years ago) link

AS should she

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

I have a mild curiosity who has co-sponsored it, but not enough to make any effort to find out.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link

bush's paintings have more pathos in em because they are driven, maybe unconsciously, by guilt

― treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 bookmarkflaglink

but churchill's landscapes were fine, idk. sterile and empty but i'd rather have that on my wall than a childish portrait of putin.

― treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Gonna print and frame these.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:38 (three years ago) link

LOL Trump Jr. pretending he's never watched Fox News: Imagine how much easier it is to run as a Democrat when you have a multi billion dollar main stream media complex willing to lie and run cover for you at all times! Our media is broken.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:41 (three years ago) link

Gonna print and frame these.

I don't know, I kinda think you should paint your own versions before you frame 'em.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

I'm hearing Alec Guinness saying "sterile and empty."

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:47 (three years ago) link

richard prince style

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:47 (three years ago) link

would alec guinness say it like "ster-eye-ull"?

treeship., Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

Lol that Johnny Knoxville comparison is so otm, that even looks and sounds like an old Jackass intro

"Hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville and this is Articles of Impeachment"

*cut to guy getting hit in the balls by a garbage bag filled with moldy peaches*

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

would alec guinness say it like "ster-eye-ull"?

― treeship.,

exactly

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 January 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXpost: re Biden xpost holding off on immigration 'til builds up momentum etc.---not gonna do that:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-immigration-plan/2021/01/18/f0526824-59a8-11eb-a976-bad6431e03e2_story.html

dow, Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

Still really amazed this is allowed

House Republican Lauren Boebert now sets off the metal detector and refuses to comply with US Capitol Police, waking into the chamber. USCP not making a big deal but $5,000 fine comes out of member’s pay.

— Hugo Lowell (@hugolowell) January 21, 2021

nashwan, Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link

Second offense is $10,000.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link

She'll be running a GoFundMe campaign to cover the costs of her Freedom! any day now.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link

can we idk have the police actually not let them in?

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link

She'll be running a GoFundMe campaign to cover the costs of her Freedom! Grandstanding! any day now.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:28 (three years ago) link

definitely

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link

Sahil Kapur
@sahilkapur

@LeaderMcConnell
proposes a MID-FEBRUARY start to impeachment trial.

His pre-trial pitch: House reads articles on 1/28. Trump’s answer and pre-trial brief due 2/4. Then Trump gets a week to submit his pre-trial brief (2/11). House gets two days to submit rebuttal brief (2/13).

dow, Thursday, 21 January 2021 23:41 (three years ago) link

https://t.co/fI9CdkNLfT pic.twitter.com/125SJ14rES

— croatianx tony (@AnthonyRescan) January 21, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 00:43 (three years ago) link

I'm running down the road, trying to loosen my load, I've got seven senate Democrats on my mind.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/21/politics/senate-democrats-ethics-complaint-cruz-hawley/index.html

clemenza, Friday, 22 January 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link

oh wow ethics complaints might actually result in action again

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link

Boebert wishes she was as witty and cutting as AOC, but she’s totally ‘Girl you wish you never started a conversation with at a party.’

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link

More like "Girl you wish you never started a conversation with at the grand old party", amirite?

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 22 January 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link

I'm not savvy enough to know how this would play out in the long term, but the logic feels compelling to me

Get rid of the filibuster and pass everything: healthcare, childcare, family leave, minimum wage, etc. Pass it all. Make Republicans have to try to take those things away from people instead of letting Republicans stop those things from ever happening. You’ll win every time.

— Jon Zal (@OfficialJonZal) January 21, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Friday, 22 January 2021 07:16 (three years ago) link

the courts would take them away from people

Clay, Friday, 22 January 2021 07:19 (three years ago) link

why not try and see if the courts bother

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 07:22 (three years ago) link

they don't have 50 votes to get rid of the filibuster

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 08:04 (three years ago) link

Dream logic.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 January 2021 08:37 (three years ago) link

Sounds like McConnell is already starting to be obstructive so is the 2nd Impeachment going to be a farce too. apart from most of the things that Biden is trying to do at the start of his incumbency and the mess that was left by the outgoing mess.

Is taht utterly predictable or what.

Damn, felt optimistic for all of 2 days and hoping that this can be allowed to not just be a nominal good start by the Dems.

Stevolende, Friday, 22 January 2021 09:42 (three years ago) link

Opening arguments the law/politics podcast works through the actions of Biden's new incumbency on its first day
https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Ng6iAlrpUhNVSdd5nWwpG?si=0gQmM6_4RwaCC5H_EkFbpA

podcast also available on other platforms but that's the one I use.

Stevolende, Friday, 22 January 2021 10:53 (three years ago) link

I don't understand how you listen to so many podcasts! I don't even listen the ones I've been on lol.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 11:49 (three years ago) link

Long thread, by a reporter, about a couple of things in Buttigieg's mayoral background, only a few of which I'd read before:

Pete Buttigieg testifies today on his nomination to run the Dept. of Transportation.

I spent almost a year covering Buttigieg. He refused to speak with me, so I’m going to thread some of the things senators could ask him about today.

— Jonathan Larsen (@jtlarsen) January 21, 2021

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 11:52 (three years ago) link

Wait, you're telling us a clear CIA plant with no ethical sense is also a racist asshole?

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 11:59 (three years ago) link

(sorry, my absolute loathing of Mayo Pete has been ratcheted up again now that he's back on these scene. What an absolute turd of a human he is)

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:00 (three years ago) link

Hey, Amy Klobuchar says he's nice.

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:09 (three years ago) link

He is loathsome.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:19 (three years ago) link

Wow tabes easy on the associative nicknames i beg

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:19 (three years ago) link

My favourite terrible fact about Pete Buttigieg (that I learned the other day) is that his husband still has a thirst trap picture of Mayor Pete in front of the Holocaust Memorial up on his Instagram.

scampish inquisition (gyac), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:30 (three years ago) link

That guy's actually called Chasten?

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:35 (three years ago) link

Wow tabes easy on the associative nicknames i beg

― Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, January 22, 2021 7:19 AM (twenty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

please, Mayo Pete is my father. call me Mayonnaise Pete.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 22 January 2021 12:45 (three years ago) link

the courts would take them away from people

― Clay, Friday, January 22, 2021 2:19 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Then you get popular support for packing them

treeship., Friday, 22 January 2021 12:57 (three years ago) link

deems, Mayo Pete has been a nickname floating around Black social media since the guy came into the spotlight, fwiw. I just think it's hilarious and so am all for it.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link

lol

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-55765516

pomenitul, Friday, 22 January 2021 14:03 (three years ago) link

I was reading the WaPo blurb on Biden cleaning house at Voice of America, and I was kind of surprised to learn:

The federal government spends $637 million annually to support the five news networks — VOA, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Middle East Broadcasting, the Office of Cuba Broadcasting and Radio Free Asia

For scale/comparison, NPR's annual budget is around $250 million. So those five I assume very specialized and small international news divisions combined are the cost of two and a half NPRs? Has anyone ever caught any of their programming? For some reason I always thought it was just some person in a closet secretly tapping out morse code or whatever, but I guess it's more sophisticated than that?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 14:09 (three years ago) link

JUst being reminded that Biden had to stop work on the Southern border wall. Was tasht actually urgent? I thought very little work had been done on that anyway. THought it was more of a talking point than a construction project.

Or is that the light that Biden took it in so made a firm pronounced stand against the idea instead of preventing a major construction fro continuing and therefore wasting money., Though might be interesting to have a rusting hulk stand asa folly and recognisable relic of the trump mess.

Stevolende, Friday, 22 January 2021 14:11 (three years ago) link

deems, Mayo Pete has been a nickname floating around Black social media since the guy came into the spotlight, fwiw. I just think it's hilarious and so am all for it.

― The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 13:36 (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Irish geographic joke, all good

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Friday, 22 January 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link

don't names like "office of cuba broadcasting" and "middle east broadcasting" tell you why we spend more on it than NPR spends? it's not for the purpose of giving the world free information and entertainment

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 22 January 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

Year ago, when I had a radio with short wave on it, it was pretty easy to listen to VOA. Don't remember anything about it though.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Friday, 22 January 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link

The fact that democrats can't seem to figure out how to deal with this first minor speed bump is very dispiriting.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 22 January 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

They've figured out what to do -- they need to do it.

it's not for the purpose of giving the world free information and entertainment

So you're saying it's spy stuff and propaganda? I always thought the point was to be propaganda by way of diverse programming. Anyway, otherwise "office of cuba broadcasting" doesn't really explain it to me. How much can it cost to run an office dedicated just to Cuba?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link

Answer: Office of Cuba Broadcasting has an annual budget of $28 million, so something like that is a tiny piece of that $640 million budget.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link

How much can it cost to run an office dedicated just to Cuba?

yes but you have to put Cuban American radio grifters here in Miami on the payroll

VOA reaches approx 250 million people worldwide in 40 + languages so as propaganda goes, pretty broad reach. effectiveness is different question

H in Addis, Friday, 22 January 2021 14:55 (three years ago) link

lol

UNTRUTH USAGM programs are just propaganda
No. The mission of USAGM and its networks is to broadcast accurate, balanced, and comprehensive news and information to an international audience. The mission to promote freedom and democracy is achieved through journalistic integrity and through the dissemination of factual news and information to an audience that typically does not have access to a free press. USAGM broadcasters know that their effectiveness is based on their credibility and that their listeners are not interested in propaganda.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Friday, 22 January 2021 14:56 (three years ago) link

don't names like "office of cuba broadcasting" and "middle east broadcasting" tell you why we spend more on it than NPR spends?

Cf. Radio Martí, which has been broadcasting into Cuba since the early 80s, despite Cuba effectively jamming every minute of its programming, making it a colossal waste of time and money.

Note: Radio Martí is independent of the VoA, so whatever VoA is doing is ALSO a colossal waste.

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 January 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link

My wife just did a good job perhaps explaining it to me, by suggesting taking NPR's annual budget, but then adding in the budgets of all the local NPR affiliates, and then have the programming designed to reach many different countries, cultures and languages. Adds up, especially if all these VoA affiliates and adjuncts have top-notch NPR-quality programming, with high production values, name reporters, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

Radio Marti is one of those Reagan-era boondoggles that no one much talks about yet should.

wait, which minor speed bump is being referred to?

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:02 (three years ago) link

Whether Schumer will tell McConnell to screw himself over the filibuster.

VOA has decent reporting, analyses less so,
having worked on journalism and media projects that have interacted with many countries across africa can def tell you that people do not give it any where close to the same weight as say, BBC or to a lesser degree RFI
Al Jazeera English service had had a huge surge of trust in early 200s but think as everywhere more and more people getting their info/misinformation from social media and much less from radio which had been the cheapest and broadest way to reach ppl. Now cell phones becoming more and more ubiqituous FB and WhatsApp or Telegram messages are where more and more ppl turn to for info

had no idea radio free europe still existed

H in Addis, Friday, 22 January 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link

i thought caek said they didn't have enough votes to get rid of the filibuster?

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link

the moment my mom got her first fake news drops from fucking Line, I died a little inside

Nhex, Friday, 22 January 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link

Radio Free Europe is a decent follow on twitter ime? Idk about their broadcasting.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:10 (three years ago) link

Buttigieg is terrible and I hate that he's competent enough to move up through the ranks but a non-trivial chunk of me keeps coming back to "competent enough" and hating how much the rest of me craves that after the past four years.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:13 (three years ago) link

Breaking: Leader Schumer says that Speaker Pelosi will send the article of impeachment to the Senate on Monday.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 22, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:18 (three years ago) link

that's the stuff

This is phenomenal news. https://t.co/iW1QLq2KaD

— Ryan Morgan (@ryanheadedsouth) January 22, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link

lol even David Brooks has come out more or less for getting rid of the filibuster, and he is a giant equivocating wuss.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

"more or less"

Manchin has stated he will not nuke the filibuster - stating basically that without the filibuster there's no reason for having a Senate.

In a saner world, this might even sound like a noble principle. Rather than the simple majorities that allow legislation to pass the House narrowly, the Senate is there to cool the passions of the rabble, and ensure that legislation consists of things with broader support than 50%+1. Theoretically, needing to get 60% would require legislators to craft bills that have bipartisan support and that benefit a wider portion of the people.

Unfortunately that's not the world we live in. In the world we live in, the only bills that are supported by 60 Senators tend to be shit like "National Puppy Day."

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link

David Brooks — the columnist @JoeBiden could absolutely not stop quoting during the Democratic primaries — floats Democrats nuking the filibuster. https://t.co/MlgV2L8Aib pic.twitter.com/LsA6kSt3R6

— Kevin Robillard (@Robillard) January 22, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

Well, he's in a sense right: without the filibuster the United States has two legislative chambers whose members get elected differently but serve the same purpose.

So amend the Constitution and eliminate the Senate.

The Brooks excerpt:

Everyday, I read that Republicans will never go for these spending plans, and I always want to ask the writer: Have you noticed that Republicans have already voted for roughly $3 trillion in new spending over the last 10 months? Do not underestimate how divided and confused their party is right now. Do not underestimate how much Republicans trust Biden personally.

Do not underestimate how many congressional Republicans would like to send checks to their people. Recently, I was on a call with the bipartisan House Problem Solvers Caucus and a similar group of senators. I was struck by how passionately these Republicans and Democrats are committed to one another across party lines, how deftly they used the evenly divided Congress to restart the Covid-19 relief effort in December, how fervently they want to break the partisan logjam.

If this doesn’t work and Republicans go into full obstruction mode, Democrats should absolutely kill the filibuster.

Someone should tell brooks how many republicans in the problem solvers caucus voted to overturn the results of the election.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link

That might be, on the whole (and plenty of it is still bullshit), the single smartest column David Brooks has ever written.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

was on a call with the bipartisan House Problem Solvers Caucus and a similar group of senators. I was struck by how passionately these Republicans and Democrats are committed to one another across party lines, how deftly they used the evenly divided Congress to restart the Covid-19 relief effort in December, how fervently they want to break the partisan logjam.

I don't believe a word.

There was a Politico article last month about Biden's media diet, and it mentioned David Brooks and Thomas Friedman as favorites of his. Since then, I've been hoping that he would have staffers who would slip him columns by Jamelle Bouie and Ezra Klein, but if Brooks is advocating for killing the filibuster, then that's good, too.

jaymc, Friday, 22 January 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

In a saner world, this might even sound like a noble principle. Rather than the simple majorities that allow legislation to pass the House narrowly, the Senate is there to cool the passions of the rabble, and ensure that legislation consists of things with broader support than 50%+1. Theoretically, needing to get 60% would require legislators to craft bills that have bipartisan support and that benefit a wider portion of the people.

not to mention, in this world, the 50 democratic senators represent 41 million more people than the 50 republican senators (roughly 56% of the total population).

voodoo chili, Friday, 22 January 2021 15:45 (three years ago) link

I don't believe a word.

I mean, I believe they *said* it

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

How differently would these Cabinet confirmations be going if it were 51-49 GOP instead of 50-50? Would the whole Cabinet just go unconfirmed? (Austin right now has 86 yea 2 nay.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 22 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

Schumer's spine appears to have grown in...

Majority Leader Schumer rejects Minority Leader McConnell's demand to preserve the filibuster: pic.twitter.com/BuUvg8M2EU

— The Recount (@therecount) January 22, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

Schumer isn’t getting rid of the filibuster. He’s telling McConnell he’s refusing to give up the option. Low bar for competence but sure.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

So now Republicans filibuster the organizing resolution and then...?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

They do the futterwacken.

Mark G, Friday, 22 January 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

the bipartisan House Problem Solvers Caucus

lol I heard an interview with one of these dorks (GOP division) the morning after the inauguration, and one of his unity-promoting suggestions was to have a bipartisan investigation into 2020 election fraud, just to prove one and for all that there was no fraud. You know, a suggestion totally in good faith to win over the handful of remaining skeptics.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

Oh, that will put their minds at rest?

But who will front such an initiative?

Mark G, Friday, 22 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

Is it too late to resurrect Strom? well-liked on both sides

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link

My favourite terrible fact about Pete Buttigieg (that I learned the other day) is that his husband still has a thirst trap picture of Mayor Pete in front of the Holocaust Memorial up on his Instagram.

― scampish inquisition (gyac), Friday, January 22, 2021 12:30 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

too good

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

I really don't understand the fascination with his husband? He seems like a previously-unfamous Andy Cohen.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

i don't know anything about his husband, it's just the thirst trap picture at the holocaust memorial that makes me go ewwwww. oh and him sniffing at the stripper pole. idk they seem like avatars of a kind of respectability homosexual culture that i despise.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

map how many Chastens are there in your nabe

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

chasten is kind of cringey, i guess. he is probably a nice guy though.

treeship., Friday, 22 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

i bet they have nothing nice to say about rupaul for example. and rupaul is like queen of the strivers. sorry, just baselessly bitching about my favorite love-to-hate guple.

xp lol, i don't know a single guy named chasten. i've met some in-the-closet chasetens for sure. oh, and an out gay 60-something formerly-straight-married business professor at a state college here who was/is a big fan of mayo pete and went to the mayo pete campaign event in utah. i saw a big picture of that someone posted on fb - so many depressing gays in one room.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

Anyone who voluntarily goes to serve empire in an unjust war isn't a nice person, and neither is anyone who would tolerate that in a romantic partner.

They're both horrible creeps.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

I had several gay friends/acquaintances tell me "you don't like Pete? I didn't know you were homophobic" and that is why I no longer speak with those former friends/acquaintances because life is way too short to spend with people that stupid

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

I mean I know I'm just flogging a dead horse, but seeing as how the *idea* of flogging would probably give Chasten and Pete the vapors, I will continue to do so.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

hahahaha

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

(I did say "that's funny, I knew you didn't like Black people" before peacing though, signed #1 Petty Warrior)

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

DJP, yeah, a dear friend who's queer and Black told me that he basically cut off half the white gays he knew over their cheerleading of Pete.

My mom didn't understand why I disliked him. I'm pretty certain it's because she wishes I was like him.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link

(I did say "that's funny, I knew you didn't like Black people" before peacing though, signed #1 Petty Warrior)

― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, January 22, 2021 5:03 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ice cold

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link

I'm not a huge Pete fan, but some of the hate seems a little OTT. He seems like an avatar for what people don't like about neoliberalism/meritocracy/Dem establishment.

jaymc, Friday, 22 January 2021 17:10 (three years ago) link

he's terrible but he also seems like he might be the least bad transportation secretary we've ever had (which granted is a very low bar).

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

Anyone who voluntarily goes to serve empire in an unjust war isn't a nice person

This is overly condemnatory in that it assumes only bad motives could result in such an action. Most volunteers are 18 year olds fresh out of high school, who were educated to think of the USA as God's gift to the world and our military adventures as noble pursuits. They usually find out different only after they are shipped out to a war zone. What makes Pete's service particularly disgusting in my view is that I'm certain he did it in order to have that military service on his resume when he eventually ran for office.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

pareene on manchin

https://newrepublic.com/article/161013/dont-worry-joe-manchin

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:17 (three years ago) link

Wait, so does this mean that Mayor Pete and McConnell are married now? Federal-level machinations are so esoteric to me.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:20 (three years ago) link

I'm not a huge Pete fan, but some of the hate seems a little OTT. He seems like an avatar for what people don't like about neoliberalism/meritocracy/Dem establishment.

Dude is, at best, indifferent on racial issues and it's arguable (as many have) that his tenure as South Bend mayor shows he was actively hostile towards his Black constituents/employees, often while smiling to their faces and claiming to have their backs.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

someone asked me why Pete wasn't all that good and I gave reasons and they snidely said "other than that Mrs Lincoln, how was the show"

beat him to death with his own fedora

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

jaymc, I was very "eh who cares" about Buttigieg until I read this: https://www.theroot.com/mayor-pete-s-invisible-black-police-1840727624

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

Every fan of Buttigieg (I refuse too call him by his first name) I know is Hispanic and hates dating their own ethnicity.

traister largely otm here, particularly "Things fall apart and yet the center can hold. It holds and holds and holds" and "In his contest, questions not just of identity but of ideas were put to the side"

https://www.thecut.com/2021/01/biden-america-is-back-indeed.html

I want Biden to have his FDR-size presidency, to take the best ideas, the smartest people, the propellant energy they provide, to make this nation better, more just, more equitable; to provide more dignity and opportunity and protection for more people. And then what I want to give him credit for is stepping aside to let them take us forward. I want to believe that this could be what’s ahead: a remaking and not a restoration. I need to believe in a future in which the real drivers and laborers and perfectors of our democracy actually become its leaders.

But … we’re not there yet. So in the meantime, I guess this is my dream: the American Dream. In which the video ends with the ordinary white guy as the hero of the story.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

I'm grateful that the career of Buttigieg demonstrates how glib, articulate gayness doesn't protect you from racism.

Finally, he strikes me as the sort of person who would order the most expensive glass of pinot noir at a Cheesecake Factory.

lmao

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

haha burn

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

wow, harsh but fair

zydecovid (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

Alfred heard the console say "Finish him", and he wasn't going for no Babbality

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

oof

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

The Buttigieg superfan I stopped talking to was also 100% in the tank for Joe Kennedy, decrying Markey as an out-of-touch fool who ignored most of the state of Massachusetts. I stopped talking to him shortly after Kennedy's campaign produced a list of MA cities Markey hadn't cited as locations of his accomplishments since he became senator as evidence that Markey only cared about Boston without noticing that three of them were underneath the Quabbin Reservoir and hadn't existed since the 1930s: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/07/27/metro/kennedy-hit-markey-ignoring-towns-dana-enfield-prescott-there-was-just-one-problem/

I showed him this link and his response was "so what if his campaign made a mistake, it's the candidate who counts" and I was like "... you know the candidate picks the people who put together the campaign and that Kennedy picked people who are dumb as shit?" and then hit "hide" on Facebook

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

the weirdest was my progressive gay friend who was obsessed with Tulsi Gabbard for a long time. her anti-LGBTQ+ remarks from the past weren't the deal-breaker, her voting against impeachment for Trump was

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

Thanks for the new screenname map.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

This thread has become a case study in why the gay threads never get any posts anymore.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

Good mourning!

I showed him this link and his response was "so what if his campaign made a mistake, it's the candidate who counts" and I was like "... you know the candidate picks the people who put together the campaign and that Kennedy picked people who are dumb as shit?" and then hit "hide" on Facebook

I seriously wonder if some people think candidates are *assigned* campaign officials

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

Every fan of Buttigieg (I refuse too call him by his first name) I know is Hispanic and hates dating their own ethnicity.

― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, January 22, 2021 5:43 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i also appreciated this devastating burn-by-association

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

xpost where's the lax(ative) returns?

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

No Babbality
I like the way you work it
No Babbality
I got to bag it up

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

This thread has become a case study in why the gay threads never get any posts anymore.

― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Friday, January 22, 2021 5:59 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

because of hyper-curated, incredibly frail senses of individual specialness that are injured when touched? yes, true.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

tbf to you i think it's more to do with generational divides and the few queer people on here being 1) busy and 2) more different than they are the same.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

More of a "none of the participants would be likely to share a drink together irl."

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

xp yeah that

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

yes, and sorry for the unnecessary insult, i almost always appreciate and am enlightened by your posts.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

I've poured a few with ILX queers at NYC, and we never ordered Long Island Iced Teas at TGI Friday's.

how were the Long Island Iced Teas at Guy Fieri's restaurant, tho

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link

Served with blue cheese, broccoli, and Jell-O floaters?

I would love to pour Alfred a nice shot of malort :D

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

and donkey sauce xp

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

xp all on a nice bed of sushi roll, sounds delicious

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

I drank malort in Chicago with ILXors and liked it

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

Insult entirely necessary. Admitting I’m much closer to a Pete Buttigieg than a Table is the Table gay isn’t an endorsement of self by any means.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

eric, it's an objective fact you aren't nearly as craven as p.b., even if you might share some sensibilities. we all have pretty normal levels of craven here afaict.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

xp

i would VERY MUCH love to order a round of malorts for chilxors, once we all get the vaccine

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

...and once it's safe to do so. you know what i mean

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

J3ss3 bought me the shot IIRC

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

I've had Malort! Several times. Tastes like Buttigieg

take it to ILTMI buddy

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:30 (three years ago) link

I would have drinks with all of you gays. I'm actually a pretty nice guy who only occasionally rambles and rants like a stoned, angry visual theory professor at a second rate arts college, and I don't do that when I'm drinking. Mostly I make jokes and talk about dick.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link

US Politics Jan 2021: Guys Who Like Guys Go Drinking

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

Malort has made it a bit easier, because now they make both bourbon and hand sanitizer, too, so there are options.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

table I'm guessing that we have like 1 degree of separation in the West Coast trainhopping crusty anarcho dog-on-a-rope crowd, would drink w/u anytime

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

Okay, I had to google Malort, will have to try it.
I did buy something called Rock & Rye in Chicago and it was really awful.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

Okay, I had to google Malort, will have to try it.

lol, so did i. though my drinking days are done, i would pop an edible, drink a lot of water and talk everyone's ears off.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link

I have like a third of a bottle left over from jjjusten's bachelor party

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

I was listening to a podcast this afternoon saying that some of teh pardons t issued were way too specific and this open to creating a lot of trouble for those he'd granted them to . Manafort having confessed to a few crimes he wasn't convicted of and him being pardoned for those crimes he was convicted of was one thing the presenter directly mentioned and something very similar with Stone.
Would be really great if it was that easy all around. Fingers crossed.

JUst really hoping that they are all just about to get a further comeuppance.
Any chance of that scandal from a couple of years ago concerning Chao and McConnell reappearing now that people are trying to make the idea of law mean something again.
& Kavanagh had a scandal I was hearing was likely to get investigated if the election went the right way I thgought.

anybody else about to face precarity over past lack of ethics.

Stevolende, Friday, 22 January 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link

Finally, he strikes me as the sort of person who would order the most expensive glass of pinot noir at a Cheesecake Factory.

― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 January 2021 17:49 (one hour ago) link

The heart wants what it wants. I don’t see a reason to shame him for this.

treeship., Friday, 22 January 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link

Hard to believe the US Politics thread went straight from high anxiety in the aftermath of an active insurrection to a mellow love-in. But it's nice to see, all the same.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

I am very angry about the image of Buttigieg boning a glass of wine you put into my head

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link

love knows no countries, no bourdeaux

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link

Resisting temptation to post a certain Titus Andromedon video.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

Tbh, I don't think PB would order Pinot Noir. He's more of a Sauvignon Blanc type of guy.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

and sleeve, I bet you're right— we probably know some of the same people...

finally, Aimless, re: my comment above about going to serve, my point was exactly what you surmised and summarized— to volunteer for a demonstrably evil war when one already has an undergraduate degree from Harvard is clearly a resume-building move for a future political career. It's nauseating.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

splin-ter! splint-ter! splin-ter!

Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) is staring down just over a majority of House Republicans who support toppling the No. 3 House Republican from leadership after she voted to impeach now-former President Trump for inciting a deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol earlier this month.

According to reporting from Politico, at least 107 House Republicans have communicated to the leaders of that effort that they would support removing Cheney from leadership on a secret ballot, while others have threatened boycotting future conference meetings if she remains in power.

The intensifying campaign against Cheney, who called her decision to impeach Trump a “vote of conscience,” signals that Trump’s ideological stronghold on the party continues to echo in the chamber since his departure from office on Wednesday.

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

(given my dumb remarks yesterday, i feel i should clarify that i don't think either party is going to splinter any time in the next 4 years

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

I won't be surprised if they ditch Liz Cheney, it will play well with the base voters of every Republican in a safely gerrymandered district. I don't think it's a good move in a realpolitik sense, because I think the time for craven Trump pandering being a long-term good thing for the party ended Jan. 6, and a lot of the smarter Republican reps know it. But that's exactly what gerrymandering does, it fosters insular short-term thinking.

i assume some people here hate bruenig but, that notwithstanding, this is good

Some very big improvements in the design were made very quickly. I will of course keep pushing for perfection on this (why settle for less). But I'm glad to see the responsiveness to the critiques. https://t.co/aB0Gi9kWBQ

— Matt Bruenig (@MattBruenig) January 22, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link

It’s an incredibly stupid, shortsighted and self-destructive idea which I support and encourage 100%.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

The Cheney thing, not the Breunig thing

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

Senior Democratic lawmakers are moving to fulfill President Biden’s desire to expand the child tax credit by drafting legislation that would direct the Internal Revenue Service to send recurring monthly payments to tens of millions of American families, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share knowledge of the internal discussion.

Under one draft of the plan being discussed, the IRS would be tasked with depositing checks worth $300 every month per child younger than 6, as well as $250 every month per child aged 6 to 17. That would amount to $3,600 over the course of the year for young children, as well as $3,000 a year for older children, the officials said.

...

The benefit could prove costly, increasing the federal deficit by as much as $120 billion for one year, according to estimates by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a nonpartisan group. But it could curb child poverty in the U.S. by more than 50 percent, researchers at Columbia University have found.

hmm. tough choice.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

Then people will just have more kids to get more money, right?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

spencer cox, the new governor of utah, said biden's inaugural speech was "incredible" and then compared him to reagan, lol. i believe he also wants to fund public schools (gasp!). meanwhile billboards are encouraging commuters to spend money they don't have on skiing. probably following romney's lead, republicans in utah, the reddest of red states, seem unmoored. like.. you could just.. i don't know.. switch parties? christ. but they'd rather form a more purely eagle scout yahoo party than touch "socialism" with a ten foot pole. things aren't changing here so much as stuck in a republican era of the past. we need reeducation camps. $300 per kid per month would also do. - your dispatch from the boondocks

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

Liz Cheney, welcome to The Resistance

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link

If the filibuster falls and the democrats go all out on an agenda that is weighted heavily toward economic justice, where the very popular center of US politics is, the republican party won't have to splinter in order to falter badly and be kicked to the curb. If the democrats permit the republicans to keep politics muddied, slow and ineffective, the nation and the world are screwed for decades to come. It is time to push all the chips into the pot.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link

That's how I break it down.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

now they make both bourbon and hand sanitizer, too, so there are options.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, January 22, 2021 1:41 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

how's the bourbon sanitizer

yardsign updates:

Kenosha County, Wisconsin. pic.twitter.com/dlr5YBaa86

— Rick Perlstein (@rickperlstein) January 22, 2021

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:45 (three years ago) link

god I would love to drive there and put up a "No problem! You're welcome!" sign right behind it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

that's not a real haiku

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

me too, and that's why i envision dems losing every. fucking. chip. xp

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

Shame-staining is my kink tbrr

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

Can’t wait for the worst /r/childfree people in the world to whine “what about me?!!!!” on the proposed child payments.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:52 (three years ago) link

as a child-free person, pay the fuckin' parents!

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

Cosign.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

yerp

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

whole reason I stayed child free was so I wouldn't need as much money to live, lol

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link

Doesn't that sign person know it's spelled Demonrats

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 22 January 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link

I should be getting paid to not reproduce tbqh

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link

r ya gonna hold the government hostage if not?

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

1/2 toward paying off debt, 1/2 toward malort and donkey sauce cocktails

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

I wouldn't know how xp

Canon in Deez (silby), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

i know i'm just speaking for my weird little shithole but if utah people got 300 per kid per month for a few years, utah culture would start to change big-time for the better. these people are going to breed like rabbits anyway, you might as well give them an independent means so they don't have to rely on living in lockstep with the head fascists in order to survive imo. would be a good way to put a damper on mlm schemes.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

how's the bourbon sanitizer

Beats Dry-anuary.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 20:04 (three years ago) link

universally giving people money is a good way to loosen local tribal strangleholds / hierarchies of exploitation

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

I'm OK with parents getting the money provided they have to sign something saying they won't talk to me about their dumb weiner kids for one full year.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

lmao hard agree

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link

Re: that sign, I almost went up to Kenosha this week to buy beer, but then I was all ... nah, I don't want to deal with the weird vibes.

That sign, btw, looks like the awkward punchline to a Mad magazine fold-in.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 January 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link

About time

NEW: California Attorney General Xavier Becerra announces a civil rights investigation of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department

— Andrew Blankstein (@anblanx) January 22, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

that's great news, hoping it goes somewhere

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 22 January 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

child benefit comes to the US?!

$120b would have accounted for... 1.83% of federal spending in 2020. a lot, but interest rates are zero and that money will go right back into the economy. it’s obviously worth it.

long-term it’ll be interesting to see how hard it is to reel all the way back in.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:42 (three years ago) link

hopefully very hard and they keep giving us money

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:51 (three years ago) link

Okay well I don't want to, you know, approve of too many things, but it's a real pleasure thus far to watch Jen Psaki work.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link

they have to pass this shit first.
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satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

feel like the most likely trajectory at this point is big promises squandered as democrats self-own / appease their true masters and media finds ways to soft-pedal / blame republicans until everyone's tired again in 6 months and big win for republicans in 2022, another loop in downward spiral completed

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link

that is the usual pattern but we are not in usual times

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link

Okay well I don't want to, you know, approve of too many things, but it's a real pleasure thus far to watch Jen Psaki work.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 23 January 2021 8:55 AM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

We get PBS newshour rebroadcast here on SBS and she was on yesterday and how nice it was to have someone from the white house both on PBS and having a civil discussion.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link

i guess we'll agonizingly proceed to find out if there is enough of people actually getting what they need to force us out of our death cult orbit. my guess right now is more than usual but not quite enough. xp

satanist of size (map), Friday, 22 January 2021 22:32 (three years ago) link

lol I assumed “Jen Psaki” referred to Joe Biden analogous to the Jzimmezky Craybin naming tradition on the UK politics threads

partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:56 (three years ago) link

(please add your own comma)

partyin' maskless with Rudy G. and Vanilla Ice, it's a gas gas gas (breastcrawl), Saturday, 23 January 2021 00:57 (three years ago) link

Well well well

SCOOP: The acting head of DOJ's civil division spoke with Trump about a plan to stop the steal; and then told Acting AG Rosen that he was gonna be replaced in order for the plan to be implemented. And then DOJ senior leaders said they would quit en massehttps://t.co/PYKdMoutm5

— Katie Benner (@ktbenner) January 23, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:32 (three years ago) link

Just coming here to post that, it's nuts.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:32 (three years ago) link

think those stories are gonna be rolling out over the next few months.

time to arrest motherfuckers

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

file this under "things I am glad I didn't know at the time but glad I do know about now"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

JFC we are so lucky

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

and yeah, arrest all these assholes

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

Drip, drip, drip

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link

For those with no access:

Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General

Trump and Justice Dept. Lawyer Said to Have Plotted to Oust Acting Attorney General
Trying to find another avenue to push his baseless election claims, Donald Trump considered installing a loyalist, and had the men make their cases to him.

Katie Benner
By Katie Benner
Jan. 22, 2021, 7:44 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s top leaders listened in stunned silence this month: One of their peers, they were told, had devised a plan with President Donald J. Trump to oust Jeffrey A. Rosen as acting attorney general and wield the department’s power to force Georgia state lawmakers to overturn its presidential election results.

The unassuming lawyer who worked on the plan, Jeffrey Clark, had been devising ways to cast doubt on the election results and to bolster Mr. Trump’s continuing legal battles and the pressure on Georgia politicians. Because Mr. Rosen had refused the president’s entreaties to carry out those plans, Mr. Trump was about to decide whether to fire Mr. Rosen and replace him with Mr. Clark.

The department officials, convened on a conference call, then asked each other: What will you do if Mr. Rosen is dismissed?

The answer was unanimous. They would resign.

Their informal pact ultimately helped persuade Mr. Trump to keep Mr. Rosen in place, calculating that a furor over mass resignations at the top of the Justice Department would eclipse any attention on his baseless accusations of voter fraud. Mr. Trump’s decision came only after Mr. Rosen and Mr. Clark made their competing cases to him in a bizarre White House meeting that two officials compared with an episode of Mr. Trump’s reality show “The Apprentice,” albeit one that could prompt a constitutional crisis.

The previously unknown chapter was the culmination of the president’s long-running effort to batter the Justice Department into advancing his personal agenda. He also pressed Mr. Rosen to appoint special counsels, including one who would look into Dominion Voting Systems, a maker of election equipment that Mr. Trump’s allies had falsely said was working with Venezuela to flip votes from Mr. Trump to Joseph R. Biden Jr.

This account of the department’s final days under Mr. Trump’s leadership is based on interviews with four former Trump administration officials who asked not to be named because of fear of retaliation.

Mr. Clark said that this account contained inaccuracies but did not specify, adding that he could not discuss any conversations with Mr. Trump or Justice Department lawyers. “Senior Justice Department lawyers, not uncommonly, provide legal advice to the White House as part of our duties,” he said. “All my official communications were consistent with law.”

Mr. Clark also noted that he was the lead signatory on a Justice Department request last month asking a federal judge to reject a lawsuit that sought to pressure Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the results of the election.

Mr. Trump declined to comment. An adviser said that Mr. Trump has consistently argued that the justice system should investigate “rampant election fraud that has plagued our system for years.”

The adviser added that “any assertion to the contrary is false and being driven by those who wish to keep the system broken.”

A Justice Department spokesman declined to comment, as did Mr. Rosen.

When Mr. Trump said on Dec. 14 that Attorney General William P. Barr was leaving the department, some officials thought that he might allow Mr. Rosen a short reprieve before pressing him about voter fraud. After all, Mr. Barr would be around for another week.

Instead, Mr. Trump summoned Mr. Rosen to the Oval Office the next day. He wanted the Justice Department to file legal briefs supporting his allies’ lawsuits seeking to overturn his election loss. And he urged Mr. Rosen to appoint special counsels to investigate not only unfounded accusations of widespread voter fraud, but also Dominion, the voting machines firm.

(Dominion has sued the pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, who inserted those accusations into four federal lawsuits about voter irregularities that were all dismissed.)

Mr. Rosen refused. He maintained that he would make decisions based on the facts and the law, and he reiterated what Mr. Barr had privately told Mr. Trump: The department had investigated voting irregularities and found no evidence of widespread fraud.

But Mr. Trump continued to press Mr. Rosen after the meeting — in phone calls and in person. He repeatedly said that he did not understand why the Justice Department had not found evidence that supported conspiracy theories about the election that some of his personal lawyers had espoused. He declared that the department was not fighting hard enough for him.

As Mr. Rosen and the deputy attorney general, Richard P. Donoghue, pushed back, they were unaware that Mr. Clark had been introduced to Mr. Trump by a Pennsylvania politician and had told the president that he agreed that fraud had affected the election results.

Mr. Trump quickly embraced Mr. Clark, who had been appointed the acting head of the civil division in September and was also the head of the department’s environmental and natural resources division.

As December wore on, Mr. Clark mentioned to Mr. Rosen and Mr. Donoghue that he spent a lot of time reading on the internet — a comment that alarmed them because they inferred that he believed the unfounded conspiracy theory that Mr. Trump had won the election. Mr. Clark also told them that he wanted the department to hold a news conference announcing that it was investigating serious accusations of election fraud. Mr. Rosen and Mr. Donoghue rejected the proposal.

As Mr. Trump focused increasingly on Georgia, a state he lost narrowly to Mr. Biden, he complained to Justice Department leaders that the U.S. attorney in Atlanta, Byung J. Pak, was not trying to find evidence for false election claims pushed by Mr. Trump’s lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani and others. Mr. Donoghue warned Mr. Pak that the president was now fixated on his office, and that it might not be tenable for him to continue to lead it, according to two people familiar with the conversation.

That conversation and Mr. Trump’s efforts to pressure Georgia’s Republican secretary of state to “find” him votes compelled Mr. Pak to abruptly resign this month.

Mr. Clark was also focused on Georgia. He drafted a letter that he wanted Mr. Rosen to send to Georgia state legislators that wrongly said that the Justice Department was investigating accusations of voter fraud in their state, and that they should move to void Mr. Biden’s win there.

Mr. Rosen and Mr. Donoghue again rejected Mr. Clark’s proposal.

On New Year’s Eve, the trio met to discuss Mr. Clark’s refusal to hew to the department’s conclusion that the election results were valid. Mr. Donoghue flatly told Mr. Clark that what he was doing was wrong. The next day, Mr. Clark told Mr. Rosen — who had mentored him while they worked together at the law firm Kirkland & Ellis — that he was going to discuss his strategy to the president early the next week, just before Congress was set to certify Mr. Biden’s electoral victory.

Unbeknown to the acting attorney general, Mr. Clark’s timeline moved up. He met with Mr. Trump over the weekend, then informed Mr. Rosen midday on Sunday that the president intended to replace him with Mr. Clark, who could then try to stop Congress from certifying the Electoral College results. He said that Mr. Rosen could stay on as his deputy attorney general, leaving Mr. Rosen speechless.

Unwilling to step down without a fight, Mr. Rosen said that he needed to hear straight from Mr. Trump and worked with the White House counsel, Pat A. Cipollone, to convene a meeting for early that evening.

Even as Mr. Clark’s pronouncement was sinking in, stunning news broke out of Georgia: State officials had recorded an hourlong call, published by The Washington Post, during which Mr. Trump pressured them to manufacture enough votes to declare him the victor. As the fallout from the recording ricocheted through Washington, the president’s desperate bid to change the outcome in Georgia came into sharp focus.

Mr. Rosen and Mr. Donoghue pressed ahead, informing Steven Engel, the head of the Justice Department’s office of legal counsel, about Mr. Clark’s latest maneuver. Mr. Donoghue convened a late-afternoon call with the department’s remaining senior leaders, laying out Mr. Clark’s efforts to replace Mr. Rosen.

Mr. Rosen planned to soon head to the White House to discuss his fate, Mr. Donoghue told the group. Should Mr. Rosen be fired, they all agreed to resign en masse. For some, the plan brought to mind the so-called Saturday Night Massacre of the Nixon era, where Attorney General Elliot L. Richardson and his deputy resigned rather than carry out the president’s order to fire the special prosecutor investigating him.

The Clark plan, the officials concluded, would seriously harm the department, the government and the rule of law. For hours, they anxiously messaged and called one another as they awaited Mr. Rosen’s fate.

Around 6 p.m., Mr. Rosen, Mr. Donoghue and Mr. Clark met at the White House with Mr. Trump, Mr. Cipollone, his deputy Patrick Philbin and other lawyers. Mr. Trump had Mr. Rosen and Mr. Clark present their arguments to him.

Mr. Cipollone advised the president not to fire Mr. Rosen and he reiterated, as he had for days, that he did not recommend sending the letter to Georgia lawmakers. Mr. Engel advised Mr. Trump that he and the department’s remaining top officials would resign if he fired Mr. Rosen, leaving Mr. Clark alone at the department.

Mr. Trump seemed somewhat swayed by the idea that firing Mr. Rosen would trigger not only chaos at the Justice Department, but also congressional investigations and possibly recriminations from other Republicans and distract attention from his efforts to overturn the election results.

After nearly three hours, Mr. Trump ultimately decided that Mr. Clark’s plan would fail, and he allowed Mr. Rosen to stay.

Mr. Rosen and his deputies concluded they had weathered the turmoil. Once Congress certified Mr. Biden’s victory, there would be little for them to do until they left along with Mr. Trump in two weeks.

They began to exhale days later as the Electoral College certification at the Capitol got underway. And then they received word: The building had been breached.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link

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Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:43 (three years ago) link

is it too late to amend the impeachment articles just a bit

Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

You can always add more.

IIRC didn't they tack on something about Georgia at the end there? Could be an opening.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link

impeach all Republican politicians nationwide

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link

iirc, all the state-level republican secretaries of state and elections officials resisted Trump's spurious claims of fraud, even though a ton of republican state legislators jumped on the let's-crush-democracy train.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link

Sharing less for the Hill's broad definition of plummet, and for the optical illusion of Hawley's bitchin' ponytail

Poll: Hawley, Cruz see approval ratings plummet in wake of Capitol riot https://t.co/oUUbhIZ7JK pic.twitter.com/KoLd6LpWCJ

— The Hill (@thehill) January 23, 2021

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link

i said to Mr Veg on inauguration eve that DJT’s view of the presidency was basically the same as a 5 year old being Boss of The Playground on their birthday. Cannot be overstated how much he ~did not care~ about what “should” be done in the role. the presidency to him
was 100% a “do what I say” card and the stories are going to bear that out in soooooo much detail

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:46 (three years ago) link

he is like Bane in Dark Knight Rises except if he had muscular atrophy

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

Thanks for the cut/paste JIC

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:52 (three years ago) link

Lol, VG

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link

VG otm. Didn't know, didn't care.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

"Trump follows the Constitution"

"what's his favorite part?"

"uhh....Chapter 3?"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link

When Mr. Trump said on Dec. 14 that Attorney General William P. Barr was leaving the department, some officials thought that he might allow Mr. Rosen a short reprieve before pressing him about voter fraud. After all, Mr. Barr would be around for another week.

Instead, Mr. Trump summoned Mr. Rosen to the Oval Office the next day. He wanted the Justice Department to file legal briefs supporting his allies’ lawsuits seeking to overturn his election loss. And he urged Mr. Rosen to appoint special counsels to investigate not only unfounded accusations of widespread voter fraud, but also Dominion, the voting machines firm.

the next fucking day. jeeeeezus

Karl Malone, Saturday, 23 January 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link

Some of this hit HAS to be jailable, right?

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 23 January 2021 04:32 (three years ago) link

Whoops!

WaPo has updated its story to include a somewhat cryptic written statement from Clark, in which he confirms “there was a candid discussion of options and pros and cons with the President.”

Clark dubiously asserts that conversation is privileged. h/t @JanNWolfe pic.twitter.com/cHaPFZ7U4c

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) January 23, 2021

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 January 2021 04:37 (three years ago) link

The word "options" = falling on a sword

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 04:43 (three years ago) link

is it bad that i want Cippollone to write a tell-all

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 23 January 2021 04:51 (three years ago) link

Cannot be overstated how much he ~did not care~ about what “should” be done in the role. the presidency to him
was 100% a “do what I say” card

This also applies to his real estate developments, to his casinos, to his footbal league, to his universities, to his charities, to his taxes, to his approach to sexual consent...

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 23 January 2021 04:53 (three years ago) link

Of course, everyone who constantly created and shared these memes will buy a sweatshirt as part of this charity effort, right?

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/bernie-sanders-meme-inauguration-sweatshirt-charity-1117854/?fbclid=IwAR2CKj82ebBIUSS3z8Z9zGaqjMSYXLIBBGOlf3y_EQV7KSlsE9OqshcdHxg

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 23 January 2021 05:02 (three years ago) link

subject matter waiver and how you do it

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 23 January 2021 05:09 (three years ago) link

if you want a couple of thousand words of schoolhouse rock content on how executive orders work in the specific context of environmental regulation, this is a good piece https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/01/a-look-at-all-of-bidens-changes-to-energy-and-environmental-regulations/

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 23 January 2021 05:34 (three years ago) link

somehow a thousand words and rolling stone don't quite go well together

but seriously, i was wondering, do people really consider previous thread titles to be cutesy?

Punster McPunisher, Saturday, 23 January 2021 06:03 (three years ago) link

banana fana fo bclid=IwAR2CKj82ebBIUSS3z8Z9zGaqjMSYXLIBBGOlf3y_EQV7KSlsE9OqshcdHxg

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 06:16 (three years ago) link

Haha https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/22/us/politics/biden-executive-orders-trump.html



One former senior Trump aide, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear or retaliation, agreed. “Very little of what Trump did was done to ensure permanence. At the pace Biden is moving, everything Trump did will be gone by the time the sun rises on Monday — except his judicial appointments.”

While Mr. Trump lorded over Twitter, important lessons for him lurked, unwatched, on YouTube.

In a remarkable interview 10 days before his death in 1973, Lyndon B. Johnson, the most skilled legislator-president in the country’s recent history, explained why he had resisted the temptation to ram through landmark civil rights reforms by using executive orders.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 23 January 2021 06:23 (three years ago) link

didn't Trump already have aides leaking negative shit to the press like, in Week 1?

another enjoyable diff with Biden admin (or literally every other admin)

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 06:25 (three years ago) link

Punster the thread title comment about cutesy has more to do with the flurry of puns that were sparked when it was announced this month had a part 2 coming. Which is a precedent caused by the events of Jan 6th causing much debate when there was also going to be an inauguration and new incumbency later. So this would be a very full thread if kept as 1 part.

Stevolende, Saturday, 23 January 2021 07:27 (three years ago) link

So weird to me that politicians have merch. Not campaign merch, just merch-merch.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 January 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

They literally only hold their jobs as a result of regularly scheduled popularity contests.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 23 January 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

It's ok to pirate their podcasts, they make all their money off merch and touring

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 23 January 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link

Blimey, this thread having a day off?

Mark G, Sunday, 24 January 2021 09:59 (three years ago) link

May need to get used to things like taht, head of state not going out of his way to embarass himself several timesa day and the ex having no media access.
May have to go cold turkey on teh trepidation of the other boot dropping for a while. YOu could always read back through the monthly threqads for the last 4 years if you are too addicted.,

On the other hand McConnell is going to be a pain wherever he can and Biden is goingto be struggling with trying to do all the good he can but not having a significant majority.

Ha funny that, didn't think the speed of additions to the thread was going to tail off after about the 20th since nothing untoward regularly happening. So the idea that there would be bound to be need for a 2nd or 3rd thread for teh month may have been based on a habit taht was just breaking.

Stevolende, Sunday, 24 January 2021 10:15 (three years ago) link

The monthly thread may have to be ditched at this rate :-O

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Sunday, 24 January 2021 10:42 (three years ago) link

Good

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Sunday, 24 January 2021 10:45 (three years ago) link

I noted it last night and was...quite surprised and pleased

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Sunday, 24 January 2021 12:29 (three years ago) link

Blimey, this thread having a day off?

― Mark G, Sunday, January 24, 2021

I loved it!

i have like 3 different depressing news updates i could post, and one of them involves trump

but in the year of extra-magical thinking, 2021 - no i don't, all the news is good

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

There's a difference between depressing and urgent. There was plenty of depressing political news before Trump, and will be plenty after. But a lot fewer things that will prompt the "JFC DID U SEE THIS LATEST ASSAULT ON ALL THINGS DECENT" reactions that have fueled these threads for the past 4 years. Or here's hoping anyway.

oh, for sure. the things i want to post about today are just expected things - mcconnell is doing his best to make sure as many people die of covid as possible and biden takes the blame; trump is trying to start the Patriot party, and smart people in portland thought burning a biden flag (lol?) on inauguration day would be a good thing. but yeah, none of that compares to what happened a couple weeks ago - trump trying to overthrow the election in yet ANOTHER way by trying to get the acting attorney general thrown out and then installing a stooge to overturn the Georgia results (via...magic?)...anyway, holy shit. the trump years chewed me up and spit me out. i'm a whiny piece of half-solidified blood, hardened bloodsnot after a violent sneeze. the silence of this thread is comforting in some ways

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 January 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link

So, no need for a January part two thread, and Feb will most likely be...... quiet

Mark G, Sunday, 24 January 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

This is the January, part two thread.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 24 January 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

It does all feel pretty weird. The silence of the Trump. I do not miss him even a tiny little bit, but it's just like some asshole with a jackhammer has been right outside the window for the past four years, except the jackhammer was hate speech and crazy talk, and now it's just ... gone. Or at least muted to an extent you have to strain to hear it. Takes some adjusting to.

thank god twitter booted him

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Sunday, 24 January 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

Both amazing and I guess predictable what a difference that made.

yep

also, fuck those dumbasses in Portland, smdh

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link

🙄

Canon in Deez (silby), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:07 (three years ago) link

there was a good roasting response on twitter but I've already given it more attention than it deserves

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link

which assholes in portland are these?

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link

some dumb anarchists basically re-enacting the argument we had here on the 20th

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link

Given it's Portland, I guess it could be any number of assholes. Meanwhile:

The Bidens stop at Call Your Mother, the bagel shop in Georgetown, en route back to the White House -- already a big change. Trying to remember but can't recall Trump ever stopping anywhere in DC other than his own hotel.

— Peter Baker (@peterbakernyt) January 24, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure I understand why Donnie didn't just create his own alt-website in order to directly funnel his parasitic filth into his hosts' willing brains.

pomenitul, Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

Trump is getting warm welcome from the skies near Mar-a-lago today pic.twitter.com/S6uUFx3t30

— Daniel Uhlfelder (@DWUhlfelderLaw) January 24, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

really looking forward to the impending eviction from M-A-L:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/12/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-neighbors

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

anyway, i'm in portland for work. first time I've left my house for my job since covid hit and i'm *extremely* unhappy about it.
we're staying downtown and it's pretty much a boarded up ghost town compared to when i was here last. if things are popping off around our office & hotel it can't be much, or it's happening pretty late at night.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

on that NYT headline:

Change in Headline pic.twitter.com/35VI67L5JP

— Editing TheGrayLady (@nyt_diff) January 23, 2021

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

and here's the washpost version:

https://i.imgur.com/kbGl20N.png

Karl Malone, Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

I'm not sure I understand why Donnie didn't just create his own alt-website in order to directly funnel his parasitic filth into his hosts' willing brains.

He knows the best people:

I have a son. He’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers, it’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe it’s hardly do-able. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing, but that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester and certainly cyber is one of them.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

What has Biden done since inauguration that they are protesting?

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:36 (three years ago) link

existing

quoth the craven (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

He has continued to be Joe Biden.

can't speak for everyone but for me probably not saying "Damn i'm sorry that was really stupid of me to say i'd veto M4A if it came across my desk"

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

The systemic racism and brutality of the police continues, as evidenced by feds teargassing people protesting against it in Portland, and a cop in Tacoma accelerating an SUV through a crowd and running over / hospitalising one bystander last night. Biden repeatedly campaigned on treating brutality by increasing funding to police, and training them to shoot protestors. As the interviewees in the article say, continuing to protest continues to keep attention on the issues in a way which ceasing protests does not.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

and this is more Dem party in general rather than Biden specifically, but the little tapdance about "vote for us and $2k is yours" to "hahah sike we were already including the 6 hundo you fucking rubes and the GOP hasn't even begun negotiating" probably didn't win them any friends

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 24 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

xp agree w/all of that and also think waiting a week would have been a better choice

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, 24 January 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

yeah, i think those are valid reasons to protest, i don't know if the timing was productive and worry it gives the republicans space to "both sides" jan 6, which is bullshit but

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Sunday, 24 January 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

As one person held a lighter below a Biden-for-president flag, another chanted a phrase often seen on conservative message boards: “Not my president.”

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Sunday, 24 January 2021 22:18 (three years ago) link

republicans are going to respond to all left protest exactly the same regardless of when it happens or what happens, though

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 24 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link

“Not my president.”

Should've been "not any president".

Optics, people!

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 January 2021 22:23 (three years ago) link

I'm every President

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 January 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

Fillmore's in mmmeeeeeee

As one person held a lighter below a Biden-for-president flag, another chanted a phrase often seen on conservative message boards: “Not my president.”

Incredibly stupid framing here, heard this at every Bush era protest.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 24 January 2021 22:42 (three years ago) link

Protesters were seen drinking water, as was common at many STOP THE STEAL events. Clear liquids are also fond with RUSSIANS.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 24 January 2021 22:44 (three years ago) link

popular with RUSSIANS, damn it

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 24 January 2021 22:44 (three years ago) link

they also like kahlua and milk iirc

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link

agree w/all of that and also think waiting a week would have been a better choice

The cop in Tacoma accelerated through and ran over pedestrians (a crowd of randos watching dickheads do donuts) at 18:45.

A spontaneous protest was taking place by 8pm.

In August, Pierce County diverted COVID response funds to a cop project to monitor specific organisers who had been coordinating protest against, and calling for the arrest of, the individual cops who murdered Manuel Ellis in March.

Two of those organisers arrived at the protest between 8 and 8:30, sat peacefully in place, and were searched without consent and arrested without Miranda reading before 9. They were held overnight until hat-passing raised their bail.

If the crowd who had been attacked by a cop in a murdervehicle had waited a week to protest, instead of organising immediately, would the cops have returned the stolen COVID funds, instead of targeting and violating the rights of two people for protesting previous cop murderers?

If the two organisers had waited a week to go down to yesterday's protest, would the four cops originally filmed murdering Ellis in March have somehow not been cleared to return to work in April?

If the pedestrians who filmed the cop attempting to kill random citizens last night had waited a week to tweet their videos, would the local PD and Sheriff's Dept have, for some reason, finally censured the two additional officers (one off-duty, just abetting murder for fun), whose active involvement had been kept concealed for until three weeks ago?



There's no polite time to wait to protest. The change of President in Washington DC last week doesn't affect the reasons to protest police violence in the PNW, unless that president does anything to curb or correct it.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link

Reminder that the new President's repeated, and repeated, up to the internationally televised campaign debates in November, policy towards addressing police violence to state that the institution of US policing is irreparably damaged and rotten, and to argue that the solution is:

1) increase funding for the police
2) remove external oversight
3) shoot protestors.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:08 (three years ago) link

ok this may sound harsh but i really think we need to start letting the kids out of the cages and replacing them with Guys like This:

https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article248663695.html

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:28 (three years ago) link

I would like it if his prison cell was "over the edge of a cliff"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

wtg Joshua you've shot past some of the most loathsome assholes to ever draw breath

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:37 (three years ago) link

I know, Stuart Stevens (who, among lots else, I'm sure, has Sarah Palin to answer for), but I did find this funny:

"Now, if you're a Republican, if you're a Trump voter, to be born in America is you're a victim, you're a sucker. There are these powerful forces out there in the world, like Canada, that are taking advantage of us."

(The inflection he puts on "Canada" is better heard than read--it's at 2:50.)

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/01/24/stevens-rupert-murdoch-is-the-most-dangerous-immigrant-in-america.cnn/video/playlists/reliable-sources-highlights/

Maybe, as a Canadian, I should be offended, I'm not sure. But we invented self-deprecation, so I'm okay no matter how he intended that.

clemenza, Sunday, 24 January 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

I just realized that I’m almost more interested in the story of this present administration than the story of the administration we just escaped.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 25 January 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link

i'm absolutely dying to be more interested in this administration but they need to fucking DO something instead of crying about republicans not liking them

satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

i'm probably the only person in this thread who thinks this but i just. don't. fucking. care. what happens to trump at this point. what i need is for the democrats to fucking work for the people for once.

satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

why on earth would you believe you're "the only person in this thread who thinks" democrats working for the people is badly needed and what happens to trump is a minor side issue by comparsion? this is a weird idea.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link

if it was donors' pockets on the line they'd use reconciliation in a heartbeat and something would already be done. instead it's just everyone else who doesn't matter and fuck them obviously.

xp thanks for providing a valuable counterpoint to my hyperbole

satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

Interesting interview with Fauci about his interactions with the dministration, with Trump personally, and holy-shit details about death threats to him and his family: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/24/health/fauci-trump-covid.html

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 25 January 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link

the dministration

I think we can probably grade it a fministration.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Monday, 25 January 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link

and this is more Dem party in general rather than Biden specifically, but the little tapdance about "vote for us and $2k is yours" to "hahah sike we were already including the 6 hundo you fucking rubes and the GOP hasn't even begun negotiating" probably didn't win them any friends

― Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, January 24, 2021 2:44 PM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

from the beginning this was phrased as increasing checks from $600 to $2000 so i'm not sure what "lapdance" you're referring to.

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Monday, 25 January 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link

idk man it seems bad and dumb and honestly no one in DC seems to thinks money’s ‘real’ until it comes to helping out poor and working people.

Dems and their media proxies were absolutely running the campaigns in GA on on folks getting 2k *after* the $600 had already gone out. No one said “$1400 more to make u whole”. It’s just a weird thing to not be explicit about.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Monday, 25 January 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link

So there were definitely ads during the Georgia races that made reference to an additional $2000. I wasn't really paying attention to these at the time and always thought the plan was to add on $1400, so I'm not particularly upset about this, but I totally understand people who paid closer attention and are pissed off now.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 25 January 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link

And yes, the democrats need to act with way more urgency than they are. I think lots of people are saying this, but it isn't clear exactly what Schumer and team are actually willing to do to make things happen now.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 25 January 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link

We talked about the $1400 vs. $2000 here and even ILXors who were paying attention were confused - it's dumb to pretend that Democrats didn't want people to hear "$2000 more" before they voted.

More importantly, why defend the trim to $1400 now? Which of us here is worried about the deficit?

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 25 January 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link

(sorry if I’m picking old scabs w the $1400; I don’t think I was online much when all that was coming by to light)

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Monday, 25 January 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link

With a 50-50 split in the senate, the boldest budget legislation that can pass is whatever the timidest Democratic senator can be persuaded to vote for, unless at least one Republican decides to play along. I'm pretty sure this is a much touchier proposition than our furthest left posters will be willing to concede and we'll hear nothing but 'the Democrats have full control over the Congress and the Presidency, so why haven't they enacted fully automated luxury socialism, yet?'

So, once more, if anything is not to the liking of the left, the Democrats as a party will be entirely to blame. It's never going to be the fucking voters who keep sending so many wild-eyed radical Republicans to Congress who are the biggest problem. Or the goddamn US constitution that lets Wyoming and Alaska be as powerful as California and New York in our magnificent US Senate.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 03:13 (three years ago) link

why haven't they enacted fully automated luxury socialism

Because it would be a fals economy

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Monday, 25 January 2021 03:18 (three years ago) link

it just seems like such an slam dunk to let the republicans be the bad guys, particularly when it comes to broadly popular policies during a pandemic when normal people have spent 10 months getting their asses kicked. Even if you’re a centrist dem who hates poor people, let the GOP grinch it up and run against *that* in 2022. but I’m not a politics brain genious

or just be crystal clear that you’re capping the giveaways. and probably not to expect more. The honesty would at least be refreshing

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Monday, 25 January 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link

I don't pretend to know what's going to happen politically in the US in the next three or four months. Between the New Great Depression among low wage workers, the spreading more-contagious covid-19 variant, the cack-handed vaccine rollout, the 50-50 senate and the timidty of its tiny, but critical, 'centrist faction' that will have to provide the one or two vital swing votes, and the potential for radical white supremacist violence, it seems crazy to do anything but hunker down, wait, watch, and react as indicated.

The election is past. The actual bills, amendments and votes will play out with minimal further input from the masses, unless they appear in the streets in numbers so vast as to overwhelm all question about public mood or intent. Certainty in this situation is confined to seeing the great and urgent need for effective action, but what those actions will be is anyone's guess. I don't plan to waste emotional energy getting angry over what might happen, since almost anything I can think of seems possible right now.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link

give everybody 2k. even at this point that shit is mad insufficient given how long everybody's been abandoned. fuck "just an additional 1400"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 January 2021 03:40 (three years ago) link

give everybody 2k

I'm all for it. even better, add several more programs that pay non-essential workers to stay home, raise the minimum wage to $15/hr., cancel student debt for everyone making less than $75K and institute the Green New Deal.

So, what's the plan?? Who should I vote for, for Congress, who's in favor of doing all those in the next six to eight months? Ooops. Can't vote again until 2022. How do I threaten or bribe my reps? Ooops, legal threats and bribes are strictly beyond my means. What should I do?

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 03:51 (three years ago) link

What should I do?

idk ask this guy mb

appear in the streets in numbers so vast as to overwhelm all question about public mood or intent

Because it would be a fals economy

🏆

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 25 January 2021 03:59 (three years ago) link

appear in the streets in numbers so vast as to overwhelm all question about public mood or intent

I personally am not a number so vast that I can impersonate the masses all by myself. Their appearance in the streets only happens when the public mood and intent is genuinely unmistakable and extremely motivated. That's not so much a plan as a wish.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 04:05 (three years ago) link

invite some friends

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 25 January 2021 04:14 (three years ago) link

sounds like a tupperware party

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link

tonight's protest in Tacoma in response to last night's attempted murder is still going rn, if the Portland ones are too tupperwarey for you

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 25 January 2021 04:38 (three years ago) link

tonight's protest in Tacoma in response to last night's attempted murder is still going rn

is that where you're posting from?

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 05:08 (three years ago) link

The use of something like local are currencies might be useful right now. Help boost each local economy in a way that didn't immediately trickle back out.
Though not sure shopping locally is an option right now. So probably impractical.
But what had me thinking about that was that the 2k in question was also having the effect of stimulating the economy instead of sitting unused in bank accounts. & the economy has undergone unnecessary stress through epic mismanagement before being hit by the pandemic. So something providing stimulus is a necessary cybernetic measure innit.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 January 2021 07:16 (three years ago) link

good morning!

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 January 2021 07:24 (three years ago) link

Wondering how egalitarian the economic flow is once you get people creating a dynamic flow by being able to spend on essentials etc. Is it putting money in every surviving shops tills or going mainly to supermarkets and online outlets like Amazon which would mean gluts in certain areas while others go under.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 January 2021 07:50 (three years ago) link

or to put the point i was trying to make another way, the 2k stimulus payment is as much a thing that would provide the arterial flow of a local economy as a handout to a potentially undeserving individual. I think that was a point taht the GOP missed which may be one reason they didn't get behind the idea when it would have helped ensure people voted for them, like quite apart from them all being really nasty human beings.

Stevolende, Monday, 25 January 2021 09:23 (three years ago) link

I have no confidence that we'll see $1400 checks or $2000 checks, because politicians do not care about us common peasants. None of them will be held to account, and nothing will get done to help a populace that's struggling. We'll get more tech-centric, neoliberal claptrap that will allow the ease of capital's flow into the pockets of the already middle class or well-off while the rest of the population rots.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 25 January 2021 12:49 (three years ago) link

They'll probably look at the rise in crimes of survival and decide that the time is right to build more prisons.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 25 January 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link

ok but suppose we do get $1400, what would be your conclusion in that case

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 January 2021 13:26 (three years ago) link

I'm pretty sure we will get some dough but for the same reasons table sez: "Here's your cash, leave us alone."

I was optimistic that people might have some recognition of the need to help the economy to prevent sinking into a depression as part of the work of reconstruction or whatever after the trump mess. But I could see why one might be cynical after 4 years of the trump mess especially if that was itself a symptom of a deeper malaise. like

Stevolende, Monday, 25 January 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link

hahahaha this is fucking demented omg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12NEKj9Z3hA

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 January 2021 14:29 (three years ago) link

oh M@tt why are you inflicting that on people

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 25 January 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link

haha I'm in mn so I can't escape it everyone has to suffer

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 January 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link

well well

Breaking: Republican Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio will not run for re-election when his current term ends in 2022.

— Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) January 25, 2021

He has competition, but Rob Portman might be the dumbest senator in that hallowed chamber.

might be the dumbest senator

Senator Tommy Tuberman seems like the newest champion.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link

ok but suppose we do get $1400, what would be your conclusion in that case

― Doctor Casino, Monday, January 25, 2021 1:26 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh look, we took one step down the 2.0 mile trail that would be fighting for people over capital, congratulate us.

satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

He has competition, but Rob Portman might be the dumbest senator in that hallowed chamber.

I love how the sole reason he was on the right side of history on something, legalizing gay marriage, was due to his son telling him he was gay. And even then he had stupid caveats!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 January 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link

map, i agree with you that it's an extremely weak one step (though it would have a substantial material impact on many people's lives - just not necessarily a game-changing one in most cases). i just found table's "i have no confidence..." post sort of closed-off, and basically wanted to pin it with a "okay, so if it actually does happen, will you come back and revise this post at all?" i guess it's a good thing ILX does not have a reminder bot though.

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 January 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

I mean, when he talks to the camera it's as if a mule kicked him in the head three minutes ago.

He has competition, but Rob Portman might be the dumbest senator in that hallowed chamber.

― meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 25, 2021 9:37 AM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

might be the dumbest senator

Senator Tommy Tuberman seems like the newest champion.

― Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, January 25, 2021 9:49 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

MASSIVE Ron Johnson erasure right here.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 25 January 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

Doctor Casino, I'll revise my take somewhat, but only insofar as granting that these *absolutely craven ghouls* gave their constituents that *fucking pittance* instead of giving everyone below a certain income level *$2000 a month as long as the pandemic lasts*, which is the only sensible, empathetic, and moral thing to do. But the United States is not a sensible, empathetic, or moral country.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Monday, 25 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: President Biden signs executive order repealing Trump-era ban on transgender people serving openly in the military. https://t.co/6uPeb9Flws

— MSNBC (@MSNBC) January 25, 2021

We’ll get the $1400 because even the Democrats can’t screw it up that badly.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 25 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

i just found table's "i have no confidence..." post sort of closed-off, and basically wanted to pin it with a "okay, so if it actually does happen, will you come back and revise this post at all?"

Table starts from the premise that *all* politicians (all of them!) are actively uninterested in helping "us common peasants." There is certainly a valid critique of the distorted incentive structure in U.S. electoral politics that too often prioritizes the interests of the donor class. But it's hard for me to look at someone like Rep. Lauren Underwood, a former nurse, and think "She doesn't give a shit about her constituents."

jaymc, Monday, 25 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

@ table - fair enough!

Doctor Casino, Monday, 25 January 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

What are the odds Portman is replaced by a former football coach? I’d say....quite good.

Sam Weller, Monday, 25 January 2021 17:18 (three years ago) link

Definitely excited about the prospect of a Congress filled with gun toting conspiracy theory nutjobs, retired football coaches and stolen valor asshats.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link

We’ll get the $1400 because even the Democrats can’t screw it up that badly.

― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, January 25, 2021 4:50 PM (thirty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

somewhat heartened if milo thinks so but i have my doubts

Table starts from the premise that *all* politicians (all of them!) are actively uninterested in helping "us common peasants." There is certainly a valid critique of the distorted incentive structure in U.S. electoral politics that too often prioritizes the interests of the donor class. But it's hard for me to look at someone like Rep. Lauren Underwood, a former nurse, and think "She doesn't give a shit about her constituents."

― jaymc, Monday, January 25, 2021 4:54 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a silly counterargument as these are structural issues. table's critique isn't "valid" or "too often" it's simply "reality" and "as much as can possibly be done in order for 'reasonable' people like jaymc to still believe that politicians are still fairly inclined to help people because of their personal beliefs and former professions".

satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

xpost

urban meyer just took the jaguars job

jim tressel isn't that beloved esp. because they had to vacate a bunch of victories due to ncaa violations, he's way out of it now, just has some job a college somewhere in sports admin

any ex pro coaches from ohio are pretty hated haha

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

I could see Ben Roethlisberger going after that seat. His time in the NFL is about done, he's a native son and he has the requisite checkered past.

henry s, Monday, 25 January 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

or he could just play golf and get tanked and be a zillionaire

i personally have never seen too much big ben that would indicate he's be into politics but maybe i guess?

i feel like a pro QB can luck into some tv gig and get paid way more to just talk shit on TV and have half the year off

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

as a card-carrying democratic party operative, i am obligated to mention that i too believe that lauren underwood actually cares about the people she represents. lots of representatives do. they're not all josh hawley and coach out there

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 January 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

Xpost He sexually assaults women, would put him in good company in Congress

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

i also think it's a good thing to shy away from "EVERY" politician and "NEVER" and "ALWAYS" and those kinds of ways of thinking and styles of predictions. if you predict ALWAYS, you will NEVER be right lol

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

Unreal. The president halted deportations for 100 days but ICE is refusing to fully cooperate. https://t.co/L6omEgte4y

— josie duffy rice (@jduffyrice) January 25, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

i mean roethlisberger made $2.1 million A GAME last year i don't think he's gonna want to do a bunch of work for $200K a year

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link


When President Donald Trump announced that Sarah Sanders would be departing her job as White House press secretary in June 2019, he urged her to run for governor of Arkansas. “She would be fantastic,” Trump tweeted at the time.

Now, less than a week after Trump himself left the White House under the cloud of a second impeachment, Sanders announced in a nearly eight-minute video Monday that she’s following his suggestion. Sanders, who endeared herself to Trump’s base while combatively — and sometimes misleadingly — sparring with the press, is seen by many as an early favorite in the race to lead a heavily GOP state where Trump’s role in the U.S. Capitol riot may not hurt her appeal.

“I took on the media, the radical left and their ‘cancel culture,’ and I won. As governor, I will be your voice, and never let them silence you,” Sanders said in the announcement.

turds!

Karl Malone, Monday, 25 January 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

how did she win? she quit her job. not everyone can win, sarah.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Monday, 25 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link

You win when you've said the words 'I won', duh

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Monday, 25 January 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

now seems like a good time to get the fuck out of Arkansas if it's at all possible

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 25 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

Arkanexit

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

Sarah Huckabee Sanders has the mien of a PTA chair who chugs a cough syrup and Liquid Paper cocktail in the car before the meetings, so she's ideal for Arkansas.

Rudy has a podcast?!

This $1.3 billion Dominion v. Rudy Giuliani suit is peak comedy. The lawyers must have had an incredible time writing this. The allegations of grift here are extraordinary. Undermining democracy to sell more discount cigars and OmegaXL supplements https://t.co/BarFmttNVF pic.twitter.com/uZ1G14a3MD

— Drew Harwell (@drewharwell) January 25, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 25 January 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link

Sarah Sanders would be the meanest assistant manager at a Conway, AR Hobby Lobby if her dad hadn’t played a clown on cable television

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Monday, 25 January 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

hahaha

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Monday, 25 January 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link

It's not really a 'podcast' per se... just him rant-riffing on YouTube, like a million other cranks.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 25 January 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link

to be fair he also has a show on WABC

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 January 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link

The cop in Tacoma accelerated through and ran over pedestrians (a crowd of randos watching dickheads do donuts) at 18:45.

A spontaneous protest was taking place by 8pm.

In August, Pierce County diverted COVID response funds to a cop project to monitor specific organisers who had been coordinating protest against, and calling for the arrest of, the individual cops who murdered Manuel Ellis in March.

Two of those organisers arrived at the protest between 8 and 8:30, sat peacefully in place, and were searched without consent and arrested without Miranda reading before 9. They were held overnight until hat-passing raised their bail.

A co-organiser of one of the arrested ppl has clarified that the immediate response was a candelight vigil, as opposed to the protest convened for 24 hours later.

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

the woke administration has logged on

The Biden administration is "exploring ways to speed up" release of $20 bills featuring Harriet Tubman after the Trump administration delayed the movehttps://t.co/BIIfpJByi6

— CNN Breaking News (@cnnbrk) January 25, 2021

satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

It's symbolism, but it costs nothing and doesn't have to wait for Congress to act. Do you have a problem with it?

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

no but i have a problem with you trying to engage me after i've made it clear countless times i have no desire to interact with you!

satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

unless you want to give me 100 harriet tubmans in which case i can offer you an image of someone stroking his chin in every response

satanist of size (map), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

pffft

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 25 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

xp@me wait I misread that: it was a sit-in, vs the march last night.

attemptedmurdercop is six months away from retirement. guess they hadn't found time to do the "de-escalation vs plow pedestrians down with your SUV" training yet! or the "open the door and speak to citizens" training. he's probably been too busy investigating and prosecuting corruption and corporate crime for the last 29.5 years.

(you'd think "how to reverse" and "turn the steering wheel to drive away" was covered in driving lessons, but I'm not familiar with the process here)

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 25 January 2021 21:12 (three years ago) link

Biden up here talking about being open on negotiating the $2000 Stimulus check? did these fuckers not campaign on sending out a check or did i dream that?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

This is depressing.

I erred in our weekend Senate story suggesting that @SenatorSinema might be entertaining a shift on the filibuster.
Not so, says spox: "Kyrsten ... is not open to changing her mind about eliminating the filibuster."
It's not just @Sen_JoeManchin, folks!https://t.co/IMRltbvMWW

— Mike DeBonis (@mikedebonis) January 25, 2021

jaymc, Monday, 25 January 2021 21:18 (three years ago) link

and Mitch playing Jedi mind tricks on the weak minded dems is no surprise

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 January 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

Supposedly he's saying (so far) that he's open to negotiating the income threshold for the $1400 checks.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 25 January 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

I wonder if any betting sites have set over/unders on GOP House seats after the midterms...

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 25 January 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link

Supposedly he's saying (so far) that he's open to negotiating the income threshold for the $1400 checks.

well fuck that bullshit!! when they base it off of tax previous years tax returns that don't mean a damn thing to a lot of people at this point.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 25 January 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link

i think the current idea is just to increase your 2021 tax bill by $1400 if you're over the income threshold.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 25 January 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

Easy

“Big” Don Abernathy, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

it's cool how the US is back to being a monarchy!

rob, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:33 (three years ago) link

(and yes I probably approve of all 33, but what a broken system)

rob, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:34 (three years ago) link

TBF a few of those are just reversals of Trump's own unilateral executive orders

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Monday, 25 January 2021 22:36 (three years ago) link

i mean the Executive branch has way too much power, don't disagree there, and would love to see that addressed and curtailed to a ridiculous degree. but with a split Congress it's the only way to do anything now as a President due to the tribalism present - with a Dem Congress right now, it should slow down once he's done reversing Trump's racism.

but I do miss the days when people uttered the old chestnut "the President's powers are limited" and it was actually somewhat closer to true. kind of scary how much it's expanded in just the 21st century.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 January 2021 22:42 (three years ago) link

from npr (in a piece that leads w Leahy not Roberts presiding and why):
So, Democrats are stuck now with an impeachment trial that likely will not succeed. And some Senate Democrats are exploring alternative ways to permanently remove Trump from office.

The best option would appear to be Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, enacted in the aftermath of the Civil War, which allows Congress to bar any officer, civil or military, from holding future office if he is found to have "engaged in insurrection or rebellion" against the Constitution of the United States.
https://www.npr.org/2021/01/25/960389715/sen-patrick-leahy-to-preside-over-trumps-senate-impeachment-trial
The Constitution does not specify how many votes it would take for such a bar on holding future office. Senate rules say it will take 60 votes, as opposed to 67 needed for conviction on impeachment action.

dow, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

Sorry, that's all in the same piece; I meant to stick the link at end of post.

dow, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

xp
totally agree with both of you, and lord knows I looked forward to this exact sweeping away for four years (and lord *really* knows I'm not sad trump didn't get to pass more legislation)

just feeling a twinge of despair imagining this pendulum governance thing persisting into the foreseeable future. I think the transgender military ban being lifted for the second time hit me hard; there's something so cruel and despotic about the way these orders magic-wand massive changes to people's lives but with no sense of permanence

rob, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

xpost 60 votes is prob still too high, but maybe not, for those charges.

dow, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:51 (three years ago) link

A compromise that does not convict him but does restrict him from running again seems like it could at least be remotely possible. Which is to say, not 100% impossible, however unlikely.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 January 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link

I dunno, if they're not going to convict him then the Republicans deserve to have him fucking up their presidential prospects in 2024

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Monday, 25 January 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link

Might fuck up America's presidential prospects! Even if he doesn't win, and I suspect it will still be a possibility.

dow, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link

Also: he Justice Department's inspector general announced Monday that his office is investigating whether any former or current department officials "engaged in an improper attempt" to have the department "seek to alter the outcome of the 2020 presidential election."

"The investigation will encompass all relevant allegations that may arise that are within the scope of the [Office of the Inspector General's] jurisdiction," inspector general Michael Horowitz said in a statement. "The OIG has jurisdiction to investigate allegations concerning the conduct of former and current DOJ employees. The OIG's jurisdiction does not extend to allegations against other government officials."

Horowitz's office said it won't comment further on the probe until it is finished.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justice-department-inspector-general-investigation-election-results/

dow, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link

Here's my exchange with Sen. Manchin. He says he won't support ending the filibuster even on organizing resolutions.

I asked him about the fact that McConnell isn't letting Dems take over the majority. His answer is Schumer/McConnell have to work it out:https://t.co/coyVTcRLhc pic.twitter.com/RyxOdUqx10

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) January 25, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:25 (three years ago) link

pretty pathetic!

global tetrahedron, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link

These people...

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 25 January 2021 23:28 (three years ago) link

maybe it would be easier to convince manchin to vote to remove his non-cooperative colleagues from the senate

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 January 2021 23:29 (three years ago) link

Expel Manchin

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 January 2021 23:36 (three years ago) link

don’t really understand what is going on, but it sounds is mcconnel is refusing to give up senate control and won’t agree to a committee rules resolution or any further senate business until the democrats include language in the rules that they will not get rid of the filibuster

Dan S, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

Okay, here we go... delivering the Article.

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link

Not looking forward to another trump 'zoneration

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

At least he can't easily gloat!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 25 January 2021 23:52 (three years ago) link

It's too bad that Marjorie Q wasn't able to get Biden's impeachment up & running so they could happen concurrently

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link

like I've been saying, the US Congress is never going to pass a law ever again

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link

seriously fuck manchin and fuck any dem who doesn't openly pressure him to stop being a stupid fuck, god dammit

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link

btw, has anyone noticed that mcconnell is pure evil?

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:20 (three years ago) link

Government by executive order and agency administration sucks, but what, really, is the alternative now? If we enshrine as a bedrock principle of democracy the (actually very new) idea that you have to have 60 Senators agree to pass a law, you are not going to pass any laws. What's the pathway for either party to get 60 seats in the Senate? It's not impossible, but it's pretty damn unlikely (and the electorate, seeing laws actually getting passed, would probably panic and vote some of those Senators out after two years.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link

the democrats in the senate don’t seem to want to capitulate completely on the filibuster ahead of time, so - gridlock

Dan S, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link

aimless fuck off

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link

i mean the Executive branch has way too much power, don't disagree there, and would love to see that addressed and curtailed to a ridiculous degree. but with a split Congress it's the only way to do anything now as a President due to the tribalism present - with a Dem Congress right now, it should slow down once he's done reversing Trump's racism.

but I do miss the days when people uttered the old chestnut "the President's powers are limited" and it was actually somewhat closer to true. kind of scary how much it's expanded in just the 21st century

Government by executive order and agency administration sucks, but what, really, is the alternative now? If we enshrine as a bedrock principle of democracy the (actually very new) idea that you have to have 60 Senators agree to pass a law, you are not going to pass any laws.

This problem has a name, and its name is Mitch.

quoth the craven (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link

Like, seriously, do NOT fucking try to #bothsides it.

McConnell's one trick is obstruction, and he is good at it.

quoth the craven (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:31 (three years ago) link

maybe this will give us senator AOC

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link

McConnell isn’t forcing Sinema and Manchin to betray the party.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:48 (three years ago) link

not to mention their constituents

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

that’s not the sticking point though

Dan S, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

Mitch is so cynical telling his fellow Republicans to vote their conscience as if they had one.

BrianB, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link

McConnell isn’t forcing Sinema and Manchin to betray the party.

Manchin and Sinema are effectively murdering the Democratic majority. That is a political crime of the highest order. But when you say they are 'betraying the party', it means you are tacitly accepting that the party, in the form of 48 senators and VP Harris, are prepared to nuke the filibuster if necessary to move their agenda. That's quite a noteworthy sea change in 'the party'.

McConnell is playing hardball to nail the coffin shut on Biden, the House, and the entire democratic agenda. Manchin and Sinema are handing him the hammer and the nails. But it won't do any good to punish them or drive them out of the caucus. They're selfish fuckers and deserve to be spat on when they show themselves in public.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link

tester, coons, and a couple others have also not committed to nuking the filibuster

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 01:35 (three years ago) link

i should say, they've expressed opposition to eliminating the filibuster

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 01:36 (three years ago) link

It is possible to move forward without completely nuking the filibuster (yet), but even that is too much to ask of these spineless idiots.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 01:41 (three years ago) link

the midterm is going to be a slaughter lol

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

xp how is it possible to move forward, though, if the democrats and McConnell can’t agree to the rules

Dan S, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 02:01 (three years ago) link

I'm not freaking out yet after five years of freaking out.

hmm

Manchin and Sinema were enough for McConnell to relent

“Today two Democratic Senators publicly confirmed they will not vote to end the legislative filibuster ... With these assurances, I look forward to moving ahead with a power-sharing agreement modeled on that precedent.”

— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) January 26, 2021

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link

as i was saying, brilliant bit of play acting by manchin and sinema, who will doubtlessly vote to nuke the filibuster next week

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link

here’s hoping

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

Well that's an unexpected turn. Is it safe to assume McConnell was feeling the heat behind the scenes?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:00 (three years ago) link

This announcement sounds a lot like a face-saving formula. If Biden had anything to use as leverage on Mitch, I hope he put the screws to him.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:07 (three years ago) link

I'm still not following the nuances of what happened in the last hour, but flipping past the hack shows on CNN and MSNBC on my way to turning to the Criterion Channel, I saw variants on "McConnell Folds."

ew i don't wanna think about his 'folds'

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:22 (three years ago) link

Basically Schumer have nothing up, but McConnell took the opportunity to saw he gets what he wants in practice (which may be true).

It’s not out of the question btw that the dems will pick up senate seats in 2 years purely based on the map. Trick is to do that without losing the house. Ha shit.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:26 (three years ago) link

*gave

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 03:26 (three years ago) link

Meantime, Twitter acting again:

Twitter snoozes MyPillow Guy pic.twitter.com/NaumFvmvn6

— John Kruzel (@johnkruzel) January 26, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 04:19 (three years ago) link

snooze is a suspension, if he's permabanned it should say smothered

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 04:29 (three years ago) link

The jokes are already flying on that front.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 04:31 (three years ago) link

🤷🏻‍♂️

McConnell didn’t get anything here. Manchin and Sinema said the same thing they’ve said before. Bringing them around to reform is and was always going to be a process that likely requires repeated GOP obstruction. McConnell picked this fight, lost and is now doing a little CYA. https://t.co/pq0qYmFK4C

— Adam Jentleson 🎈 (@AJentleson) January 26, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 05:13 (three years ago) link

What fight did McConnell pick and lose? I feel like I'm missing part of the context.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 05:25 (three years ago) link

Attempted to block an organizing resolution for committees and power sharing unless democrats pledged to preserve the filibuster.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 05:35 (three years ago) link

he let things proceed once sinema and manchin kissed his ring in public

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 05:42 (three years ago) link

i didn't realize asking raffensperger to "find" enough votes to overturn the election in georgia was part of the article of impeachment. i thought it was all jan 6 stuff. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/11/us/articles-impeachment-trump.html

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 06:00 (three years ago) link

awesome. fuckin needed to be in there

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 06:02 (three years ago) link

Attempted to block an organizing resolution for committees and power sharing unless democrats pledged to preserve the filibuster.

― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:35 AM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

(1) he got the filibuster preserved - why is that an L for him, because that would have happened anyway?
(2) how is a power sharing agreement an L for the party that doesn't have the majority?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 06:17 (three years ago) link

Good questions! I wonder what the point of the power-sharing agreements are, especially since 2008.

Nhex, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 06:24 (three years ago) link

and they aren't rhetorical questions. But I am a little concerned about dems' tendency to underplay a strong hand and then call it a win.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 06:43 (three years ago) link

weird coincidence that they only got around to addressing them a week or so after his last day in office, when it was clear on day negative 100 of his term that he would repeatedly violate the emoluments clause

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 07:18 (three years ago) link

So I can embezzle funds at work, quit, and then not be prosecuted since I'm no longer employed there. Good to know.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 07:37 (three years ago) link

(1) he got the filibuster preserved - why is that an L for him, because that would have happened anyway?
(2) how is a power sharing agreement an L for the party that doesn't have the majority?

1. the filibuster was never going to be dropped as part of the organizing resolution. that wasn't either side's goal. schumer wanted to retain the option. mcconnell wanted a promise to preserve it. schumer got what he wanted. mcconnell didn't. he's relying on those 2/50 senators not changing their mind and no democratic pickups in 2022.

2. because he didn't get what he wanted from the agreement. (they do need an agreement btw. the dems don't have a majority either.)

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 07:37 (three years ago) link

As Paul Kane reminds us, these two headlines happened in the same year https://t.co/YAMemtxLai pic.twitter.com/oITF0pR1sR

— David Nir (@DavidNir) January 26, 2021

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𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 07:41 (three years ago) link

I heard a logical sounding argument about Manchin being less of a force of bad than the Republican who would be in his seat otherwise. Since that replacement would probably be actively seeking to do GOP evil instead of not doing egalitarian good or something to that effect. But at least it does mean there is a point that doesn't get reached to have a nominal Dem there.

Also wonder how Garland feels about McConnell after not getting onto Scotus.
A dish of cold revenge reopening the various scandals of a couple of years ago to full investigation would seem really appetising . Probably not entirely neutral or objective though. Hope that wouldn't be enough to stop him pursuing that line of enquiry though.

What earthly use is a Kirsten Sinema? Same source that was arguing there was some positive to Manchin considering the voting trends of his constituency was pointing out that she didn't have anything like the same environment so had far less reason for taking the stances she has.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 07:48 (three years ago) link

seems like Kellyanne Conway posted a nude of her daughter Claudia that she'd stolen off the daughter's phone, then Claudia facetimed a friend so the friend could livestream Kellyanne calling cops to the house and requesting they section her daughter, after seeing Claudia posting calls for help in morse code on tiktok?

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 09:18 (three years ago) link

... Claudia Conway is a minor, fucking hell

scampish inquisition (gyac), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 09:44 (three years ago) link

Claudia has, over the latter months of 2020, posted footage of her mother verbally abusing her, hitting her, and actively trying to infect her with COVID. In twenty minutes of that livestream, Kellyanne's only & repeated maternal criticism of Claudia is that Claudia "is addicted to" the phone that she uses to broadcast calls for help.

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 10:07 (three years ago) link

(speculation not facts: the repeated "excuse me! (reframe)" indignant cutting-off tactic maps to Kellyanne's behaviour in press conferences, but in this context rings of hand-me-down abuse. her constant "that didnt happen" statements echo like alcoholism here, feeling a different tone to the ones she made in a formal capacity to the entire world about her government. but oof it all works similarly.)

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 10:18 (three years ago) link

Has Elizabeth Warren got a role yet. Or is she just fading into the background again.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 11:08 (three years ago) link

That’s a good question, Stevolende - I *feel* like she’s up for something but it’s been a long three months and I barely remember now

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 11:56 (three years ago) link

Mitch folding on this one is good news. It's at least *conceivable* that when the filibuster conversation goes from being an abstract hypothetical to "the minority of republicans are blocking a huge COVID-relief/stimulus-package/also-btw-the-stimulus-includes-eight-hundred-infrastructure-projects-in-west-virginia bill," then there's still a shot at nuking the thing and the Dem majority getting shit done for a year and a half rather than just shuffling towards its own destruction while the country finishes collapsing.

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 12:11 (three years ago) link

promises mean nothing in 2021 - do what you have to do today, reassess tomorrow

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:04 (three years ago) link

I agree that filibuster removal ostensibly still being on the table is a good thing but I’m not going to celebrate until it’s gone or until 10-15 Republicans get replaced by their good counterparts from an alternate universe

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:27 (three years ago) link

Regardless of the filibuster it is good that McConnell caved because until he did Republicans still controlled all Senate committees.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 13:31 (three years ago) link

Yeah, and that exactly is the value of even useless Democrats in the Senate. Take away Manchin or Sistema and Mitch is still in charge.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 14:09 (three years ago) link

it is possible that Manchin, Sistema and others would be amenable to filibuster *reform* which would give them cover and effetively end McConnell's abuse: either by lowering the threshold for debate from 60 votes—down to 40 or 50—or by requiring roll call votes for cloture, which would mean keeping R's present and forcing them to go on record

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link

seems like Kellyanne Conway posted a nude of her daughter Claudia that she'd stolen off the daughter's phone,

This is insane. This is circulating child pornography, and a felony?!

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link

there's no such thing as a felony if you're a powerful Republican

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

and never, ever any accountability

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:02 (three years ago) link

In fact, all things are justifiable - acceptable even - given the standing of the people involved.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link

I understand and agree with a lot of the arguments for prison abolition but I keep thinking “if we get rid of prisons altogether, what are we going to do about people like Kellyanne Conway”

Like, I am about 75% down the path of volunteering to be unfairly incarcerated if it means she would also be incarcerated

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link

democratic pickups in 2022.

If Mitch blocks everything the Dems want to do between now and then, that provides them pretty powerful campaign leverage: "all these promises we made, all the things we want to do, Mitch is still blocking them all, so we need even more Dems in the Senate", etc. Also, knock on wood, but 2022 *should* be post-covid and, hopefully, recovering anyway, however slowly or feeble, which gives Dems something else to campaign on, too. "For years, Mitch and his cohort made sure none of the problems in America were addressed, now things are finally getting better but he'd prefer things be as they were before," and so on. But honestly it's hard to think that far ahead.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:15 (three years ago) link

2022 Senate:

Vacant Seats: PA, OH, NC (all three GOP)
Dem Incumbents: GA (Warnock), NH (Hassan), AZ (Kelly), CO (Bennet), NV (Masto)
GOP Incumbents: FL (Rubio), WI (RoJo)

Has Elizabeth Warren got a role yet. Or is she just fading into the background again.


Her protege rohit chopra is going to run the CFPB

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link

Lt Gov John Fetterman is going hard for that PA seat. Who is likely to be the GOP challenger?

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:25 (three years ago) link

awesome, that dude rules

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:26 (three years ago) link

Warren will not (and imo should not) leave the Senate without being able to ensure a D replacement. This has been clear for months. Wtf.

Change the climate in Massachusetts, then Warren will be free to take any role that suits her. Deservedly so.

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link

FEtterman is probably my favorite politician at the moment. Love him, his wife, their dog, his weed flag.

akm, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

I believe the question about Warren was re: Senate committees. (xpost)

akm, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

Also add 2 years of covid risk to all these mummies:

Feinstein D CA - 87
Grassley R IA - 87
Shelby R AL - 86
Inhofe R OK - 86
Leahy D VT - 80
Bernie - 79
Mitch - 78
Risch R ID - 77
Cardin D MD - 77
King I (lol) ME - 76
Blumenthal D CT - 74
Some safe D trash 76-73
Mitt - 73

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

I spoke w/@nanwhaley, who is considering a run for the Portman seat, about OH & what Dems need to compete there

What do Ohioans need from Biden? "They need the rescue package."

Do they care about it being bipartisan? "No. No. They want it fast."

More --https://t.co/fr0fn95v6q

— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) January 26, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:38 (three years ago) link

Unless Democrats can get the economy out of the shitbin, I don't see pickups in 2022.

If I had to make a guess, GOP holds onto the Florida and Wisconsin seats, democrats take one of the three vacant GOP seats, GOP take either the GA or the AZ seat.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

Xps to akm - OH, sorry, missed that in the scrum. Carry on.

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

To man alive I feel like Trump Fatigue alters the equation a bit (cf. Georgia - neither D candidate was a strong contender until the runoffs became a referendum on "sick of this shit" vs. MAGA.)

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:43 (three years ago) link

Georgia also depended on unparalleled enthusiasm and fundraising from Democrats nationwide, demoralized Trumpers/divisions in the GOP, and incredible efforts by organizers outside the official party mechanisms. I guess the third of those things could pay dividends continuing into 2022. Certainly we will no longer have the trump fatigue to help.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link

FEtterman is probably my favorite politician at the moment. Love him, his wife, their dog, his weed flag.

I keep waiting for the "Fetterman actually sucks" take that must be out there somewhere, but on the surface he seems pretty cool. Smart, funny, suitably gritty.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:51 (three years ago) link

2022 Senate:

Vacant Seats: PA, OH, NC (all three GOP)
Dem Incumbents: GA (Warnock), NH (Hassan), AZ (Kelly), CO (Bennet), NV (Masto)
GOP Incumbents: FL (Rubio), WI (RoJo)



Not as bad as I’d thought, but I’d comfortably bet money on it being a wash (e.g. we lose Warnock; flip PA)

hope I’m wrong.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

Trump Fatigue alters the equation a bit

lol it won't in two years

satanist of size (map), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

And nothing makes me more pessimistic than hearing dems talk about the favorable map we have in 2022.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

tipsy: beard but no mustache, come ON

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

Smart, funny, suitably gritty.


I see what you did there.

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:00 (three years ago) link

we should be prepared for Sen. Jim Jordan

Dan S, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

If I had to make a guess, GOP holds onto the Florida and Wisconsin seats, democrats take one of the three vacant GOP seats, GOP take either the GA or the AZ seat.

Dems have won every statewide election in WI since Trump's election. they've been close but I feel like a good D candidate will probably win here, especially given what an unparalleled disaster RoJo has been

I'm usually overly optimistic when it comes to stuff like this but 2020 was looked upon as a horrible year by basically everyone and Trump & the Rs played no small part in that, if things are back to normal after 2 years of Dem rule I think that'll really boost their chances. not to mention every R Senator is gonna have to go on record as either betraying their party or their country and I can't see either being good for their electoral chances

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:08 (three years ago) link

I'm very interested in how the SLoP has set herself up. Independent, always there to humanize her partner, on the ground backing causes she cares about, beautiful and fashionable but also responsible, publicizes shopping in thrift stores, raises money by auctioning off her personal projects, managing soc meds for her spouse & herself & their family & building reach + image, always being gracious and grateful to constituents. I also am kind of waiting a bad take but I hope not, I hope they are just that great.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

That Kellyanne Conway news is beyond the fucking pale

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:12 (three years ago) link

you know I've always wondered if these people are as horrible in real life as they are in their jobs

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

SLoP???

tobo73, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

Second Lady of Pennsylvania. One of the many likable things about her is that she's embraced the acronym.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

xps Back to normal is a tall order

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

Dems have won every statewide election in WI since Trump's election. they've been close but I feel like a good D candidate will probably win here, especially given what an unparalleled disaster RoJo has been

The issue is just that it's not clear who the candidate is. The only person who's declared is Tom Nelson, who I see no reason to think will be a good candidate -- he got stomped when he ran for Congress in the 8th district. There are actually a lot of people who could run who seem potentially good on paper but it's not easy to knock off an incumbent senator, even one with middling approval ratings, as Leah Vukmir found out.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

it's not just middling, he's in the low 30s, and there's a chance he may not even run for re-election. and I don't think the Vukmir comparison really applies, Tammy is broadly popular here, I don't think she ever had a shot. I do agree there doesn't seem to be a decent D candidate in the field right now, though there are a lot of young aspiring Dems who may have a crack at it

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

I keep waiting for the "Fetterman actually sucks" take that must be out there somewhere, but on the surface he seems pretty cool. Smart, funny, suitably gritty.

one thing I really like about him is how he plays counter to so many of the Dem stereotypes - he's very affable and funny, and doesn't mince words nor does he come off like a policy wonk. I appreciated him getting on TV and saying straight up that the GOP was trying to steal the election rather than do the whole "well this is very concerning" routine. he seems 'real' in a way so many Dems aren't, minus "the Squad" of course, though the fact that he resembles the villain in a Schwarzenegger movie means he's gonna get bullied a lot less

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

my ray of hope is that every Dem in Congress has to understand that success in 2022 depends overwhelmingly on being able to run not just on "remember, wasn't the Trump era bad?" but specifically "look at where you are now versus two years ago." IOW they have to see that a robust and meaningful COVID recovery/stimulus package is the key. whether they act on this boldly or timidly is probably the biggest variable. this is not a time when you plan on winning out just by saying you're troubled by deficits or government overreach.

but --- and maybe this is really naive of me --- i have hope that the way this actually goes is, (1) a period of initial bummer vibes as the legislation takes too long to be implemented and Manchin types hem and haw and try to look moderate, then (2) the legislation is made to include more pork for those people's immediate constituents, and (3) all of a sudden the logjam breaks, they come up with some way to break the filibuster while pretending they didn't, blah blah blah, what's most important is going to their voters and saying "once again i've brought back real results for the people of X."

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link

The last Marquette poll pre-election has Baldwin 44-36 approve disapprove and Johnson 38-36, and that's in a sample with Biden beating Trump 46-42; Morning Consult has Johnson above water at 41-35; where are you getting low 30s because that news would make me happy and I'd like to read it. (I would HOPE his approval rating is tanking after the last few months of nonsense, I just haven't seen it.)

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

lard it all up xp

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:09 (three years ago) link

I keep waiting for the "Fetterman actually sucks" take that must be out there somewhere, but on the surface he seems pretty cool. Smart, funny, suitably gritty.

Didn't he grab a shotgun and chase down an innocent black man when he was a mayor?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

Unless Democrats can get the economy out of the shitbin, I don't see pickups in 2022.

This is how covid may play a big role. Again, who knows what we'll be facing in 2022, but I think it's relatively safe to assume that by 2022 covid will be in check, by way of vaccine, herd immunity, whatever, and with covid in check I don't see how the economy doesn't automatically start improving. Certainly, lack of covid shouldn't make it worse! Of course, it will be improving from a few different lows, and there are pervasive economic issues from the pre-covid era that need to be addressed, too, but barring (more) disaster I think the country will at least *feel* like it's on the upswing in two years. Of course, given our tendency toward dum-dummery, I can also see that convincing enough people to let down their guard and vote GOP again.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

The man they caught up with was Chris Miyares, who was checked for weapons and let go when officers didn’t find any.

Miyares gave Mayo his account of the situation, saying he was jogging near Ben Fairelss School when he heard a car horn behind him.

“I pulled my sunglasses off and pulled my earphones out of my ear, and I looked up, and it was the mayor of Braddock,” Miyares said. “He jumped in his Ford F-150 and followed me into North Braddock and pulled a shotgun and aimed it at my chest.”

Miyares said he, too, heard what he thought was gunfire, but believes it came from a group of kids shooting off bottle rockets nearby.

“There were three kids in the parking lot where the Dumpster is by the library. They were just shooting off bottle rockets. I heard it when I was running up Parker (Avenue) and it kind of got me too until I looked up and saw colors,” he said.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

The last Marquette poll pre-election has Baldwin 44-36 approve disapprove and Johnson 38-36, and that's in a sample with Biden beating Trump 46-42; Morning Consult has Johnson above water at 41-35; where are you getting low 30s because that news would make me happy and I'd like to read it. (I would HOPE his approval rating is tanking after the last few months of nonsense, I just haven't seen it.)

this has him at 35% and 32% in consecutive polls

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/10/07/murphys-law-not-many-approve-of-ron-johnson/

though I do think he was very unpopular when he got re-elected, so who knows. I mean Scott Walker barely lost. That said I think not having the cult of personality around Trump is probably gonna hurt these guys somewhat

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

This is how covid may play a big role. Again, who knows what we'll be facing in 2022, but I think it's relatively safe to assume that by 2022 covid will be in check, by way of vaccine, herd immunity, whatever, and with covid in check I don't see how the economy doesn't automatically start improving. Certainly, lack of covid shouldn't make it worse! Of course, it will be improving from a few different lows, and there are pervasive economic issues from the pre-covid era that need to be addressed, too, but barring (more) disaster I think the country will at least *feel* like it's on the upswing in two years. Of course, given our tendency toward dum-dummery, I can also see that convincing enough people to let down their guard and vote GOP again.

― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:12 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I can think of a lot of ways it doesn't automatically start improving by what is basically 12-18 months from now. In fact I think it can get worse before it gets better. Shuttered businesses don't just magically reopen. There are also potential financial shocks coming, e.g. with the commercial property and commercial mortgage markets, although maybe the govt and fed are more ready to head off a crisis this time.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

this has him at 35% and 32% in consecutive polls

https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/10/07/murphys-law-not-many-approve-of-ron-johnson/

Those are older than the Marquette poll I mentioned, and his disapproves in those polls are 31 and 36 -- I think it is pretty fair to say that he has consistently middling approval ratings (fav/unfav always within a few points of each other) and there are a lot of people who just have no opinion because let's face it he has been kind of a nobody for 10 years. I think he has actually made himself higher-profile since November in a way I'm not sure is to his benefit (I am certain Scott Walker suffered here from becoming visibly thirsty for national attention) But I would want to see more up-to-date poll numbers before I started seeing him as really unpopular.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

Is Mandela Barnes interested in running / would he have a shot?

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

Dems need to get good-energy candidates out, Fetterman is a great example. I think GA has a better shot keeping Warnock in 2022 than if it had been Ossoff. The main thing I hold put hope for is that the GOP fails to untether itself to the MAGA cult, and judging by Hawley/Cruz sucking up to them during the vote certification, I’d say that’s a good shot.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

Good question -- every time Barnes on stage with Evers it's plain who the more skilled politician is and it isn't Evers. There's a lot of interesting young Dems in the state -- Barnes, Mahlon Mitchell, Kelda Roys are a few off the top of my head -- but you just never know who can really do it statewide. You have to imagine Pocan might go for it, following the path Baldwin took to the Senate. If you forced me to pick somebody right now I'd think he'd have the best shot against Johnson.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:53 (three years ago) link

Donald Trump’s campaign has sought to distance him from efforts to create a “Patriot party”, an idea the former president has reportedly toyed with since his election defeat... Trump was reconsidering starting a new party, after it was “gently pointed out to him” that “threatening a third party while simultaneously threatening primaries makes no sense”.

It makes sense to me! I fully support the fledgling Patriot Party in their efforts to dismantle the crushing hegemony of the two party system.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

I'm frankly impressed some of you have the stomach to be gaming out the 2022 election already. I might need to get into basketball or something this year? I can't muster the psychic energy to surmount the dread this all makes me feel.

rob, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

Isn't that basically what the tea party was, a "third party" that wasn't really a party at all, just a sort of insurgent movement within the party?

The main reason I don't have greater concern about it is his lack of discipline and long-term thinking. OTOH, as has been pointed out by innumerable thinkpieces, there's an opening for a more disciplined demagogue to run with his playbook. OTOOH as has also been pointed out, it's not just like a recipe you can follow. Candidates with a Trumplike effect on people are not easy to come by.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

also i really believe the lack of discipline and general messiness of trump is a feature, not a bug, to his followers

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

a friend of friends dipped his toes into WI politics but got his ass handed to him by Rob Swearingen

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

Something I've been thinking for a while — the 2020 election ends up feeling similar in some ways to 2018. Obviously much less of a blue wave overall, but the same sense from a short remove that actually the election ended up looking better for Democrats two months later than it did on election night. A lot of that in this case is the Georgia elections, obviously, but also once all the noise settled down around the presidential election it looks like a plenty decisive victory (however close some of the individual states). I'm not exactly optimistic about either what can be accomplished in the next two years or how things look for '22 and '24, but ... I'm a lot more than I was in the second week of November when it felt like we'd barely escaped giving Thanos the final infinity stones but were still pretty well doomed.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

I think GA has a better shot keeping Warnock in 2022 than if it had been Ossoff

def agree and wish their reelection schedules were reversed

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

Also helping Warnock is the fact that Kemp is up for re-election.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

Rob OTM

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

Smart, funny, suitably gritty.

icwydtt

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

Kemp getting owned and Warnock being reelected would be beautiful

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link

def agree but even so wish their reelection schedules were reversed

xxposts to self

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:38 (three years ago) link

Dems have won every statewide election in WI since Trump's election. they've been close but I feel like a good D candidate will probably win here, especially given what an unparalleled disaster RoJo has been

I'm usually overly optimistic when it comes to stuff like this but 2020 was looked upon as a horrible year by basically everyone and Trump & the Rs played no small part in that, if things are back to normal after 2 years of Dem rule I think that'll really boost their chances. not to mention every R Senator is gonna have to go on record as either betraying their party or their country and I can't see either being good for their electoral chances

― frogbs, Tuesday, January 26, 2021 11:08 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

what’s feingold up to?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link

but also once all the noise settled down around the presidential election it looks like a plenty decisive victory (however close some of the individual states).

true but a single half-point swing towards Trump would've given him the victory. what's so frustrating about this is that Dems have to consistently hit 53-54% of the vote just to break even thanks to the Electoral College, the unrepresentative Senate, and gerrymandering, and it sucks that we're facing five different crises in parallel otherwise they might be able to look into doing something about it

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Biden to order DOJ to end private prison contracts as part of racial equity push https://t.co/376agiZ6Bd

— CNBC Now (@CNBCnow) January 26, 2021

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:50 (three years ago) link

um

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

i'm unable to feel good news but from a distance that looks like it rocks

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

Now do ICE

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

think of all those private prison guard jobs we're going to lose

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link

good on em but apparently does not apply to not apply to private prisons that contract on behalf of ICE?

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

ic an't type on ipohne

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link

good to see McEnany land back on her feet, she did a great job and deserves continued success and fame and fortune

Amid a slew of former Trump aides struggling to find jobs following the former president’s exit from the White House, former White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany may have already found her footing in the post-Trump world — by potentially boomeranging back to her safe space of Fox News.

In her termination financial disclosure report obtained by CREW on Tuesday, McEnany indicated that she had reached an employment agreement with Fox News starting this month.

it's not like she professionally lied for a fascist while prominently wearing a christian cross for a few months or anything

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link

old man rupert murdoch has personally flown over to NYC to oversee a new era of fox news, very different from any previous one. they are going to need to make a pivot straight into christian fascism, and only rupert knows how to balance out the christianity with the fascism (the secret is not to lower one or the other, but to raise them both up until they're both at the ceiling)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

She has that coveted FOX News look about her.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

While there has been undoubtedly some good news from his administration so far, I'm honestly quite shocked that his tepid and pathetic COVID response isn't getting more press. So he's promised to maintain the exact same grossly inadequate pace of distribution that we already had? Yay?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link

He's said they intend to increase the pace; I think it's smart not to make any specific promises before a coordinated plan can actually be devised, which will also involve identifying multiple existing points of failure.

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

where are you hearing that? word on the street is that the 100M doses in 100 days goal was too low, and they're going to be more like 1.5M per day by early summer. that's way better than trump's response, which makes sense because the trump admin didn't have a national vaccination distribution plan.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

xp

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

the other words on the street, though, are that there are other forms of covid-19 already forming, and since 40% of the U.S. is dumber than jenny mccarthy, we're all fucked

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

In the meantime, whatever else, this is hilarious.

PETER DOOCY: Mr President, what did you talk to Vladimir Putin about?

PRESIDENT BIDEN: You. He sends his best. pic.twitter.com/Fq0zglc9aK

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 26, 2021

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link

xpost - I get that he wouldn't want to promise any specific number or metric, but I would just hope he'd push for a higher bar to clear than just "exactly where we were".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

he has promised specific numbers/metrics: 100M doses in 100 days

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

and there are indications that the number/metric of 100M was too low, that it'll be more like 150M

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

I don't really think it's fair to criticize them for that, the Biden admin has been on the job for one week and I think they assumed that the Trump admin would have **something** in the way of a distribution plan, not just an empty folder

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

saw one of the peripheral guys i spent the mid-90s with, riding back roads with while smoking weed and listening to the beastie boys or sonic youth, caping for Kayyleighh on facebook and i really felt mortality slap me in the face. guess that's the demo now jfc.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

he has promised specific numbers/metrics: 100M doses in 100 days

My point is that we were largely already hitting 1M doses per day, so this is not an improvement at all. That's literally just carrying on with where we already were.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

turtle derps:

But McConnell, speaking after Schumer, said it was Republicans who had secured a victory, by ensuring that the filibuster is not in immediate peril. He went to on to describe in detail how the GOP would respond if Democrats changed their position and moved to eliminate the filibuster in order to pass their agenda.

Republicans, he said, would exercise their rights to object to routine business and demand frequent quorum calls — procedural feints that would grind business to a standstill and require senators and Vice President Harris to be on constant standby for roll-call votes.

“None of us on either side want to live in a scorched-earth Senate,” McConnell said. “This gambit would not speed the Democrats' ambitions. It would delay them terribly. And it would hamstring the Biden presidency over a power grab which the president has spent decades warning against and still opposes.”

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

Mitch choke on a chicken leg

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

xp

yes, which is why everyone's expecting the goal to go up (to 1.5M doses per day, or 150M over 100 days). the problem is that it's unclear right now how many vaccinations are being held up, if there are previous ones that can be released, etc etc. the trump admin left them a project management shitshow, this is one of the most complicated projects, ever, and it's been 6 days.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

“None of us on either side want to live in a scorched-earth Senate,” McConnell said from the floor of a Senate whose earth he has been instrumental in burning to an absolute fucking cinder.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

it's weird to see these quotes from McConnell carry that implied "yes, we're evil, we have no choice but to be evil"

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

so rather than immediately jumping the gun and saying "1.5M a day is the new goal!", they're waiting until they know what they actually have now and can expect in the near future, so they can set a realistic expectation rather than aim too low again (or too high)

xp

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:47 (three years ago) link

It's a great joke, I don't care if he runs it into the ground.

Here is the video... https://t.co/aFv10lufrb pic.twitter.com/1jHIsF9vPi

— Johnny Verhovek (@JTHVerhovek) August 8, 2020

pplains, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

it's weird to see these quotes from McConnell carry that implied "yes, we're evil, we have no choice but to be evil"

it's the kind of abusive posture that defined Trump but was normalized by McConnell as senate majority leader during the obama years

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

Doocy is gonna be busy, damn

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

Biden with a Reagan-esque exit line.

things will come full circle if Biden starts throwing Bernie memes at Doocy every time D asks a question

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

I believe Biden is raising the goal to 1.5 million a day. I don't know when. Supply of the vaccines is obv a bit of a problem in getting there.

akm, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

I mean, yeah, why be aggressive in pushing vaccine distribution at all? Be chill, take your time, weigh all the options. What's another 100,000 dead Americans?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

i support Biden's bully campaign against Peter Doocy

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

Defense Production Act was only invoked a few days ago, but it seems reasonable to assume that Pfizer and Moderna were attempting to maximize production output already to meet anticipated global demand. The major problems seem to be downstream of manufacture and they arose from a shocking lack of centralized command and control, communication and coordination from the Trump/Pence administration. Biden's people have to undo the tangle and rebuild on the fly.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely think we will get there and we are undoubtedly in a better position with a Biden administration than we were under Trump. Absolutely. At the same time, I find it frustrating that the one very specific metric he kept touting was not ambitious at all, in fact was what we were already meeting.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

Trump was actually getting individual states to compete against each other over what pandemic medical supplies they got. Meaning there was even more of a mess. Definitely not first do no harm

Stevolende, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

apropos of nothing but I recognize that bike trail parking lot (Gordons Pond); I recently lost an argument with my son about a pine cone in that same spot

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:14 (three years ago) link

I forget the details, let us not speak of it again

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

i support Biden's bully campaign against Peter Doocy

100%. Didn't he say something the other day implying that Peter was Steve Doocy's kid? (They are brothers.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

whaaaa i thought they were father and son too!?

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

either way they are both putzes and should never enjoy an ounce of respect or a peaceful moment when in public

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

Yeah will OTM, who cares, they both suck

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

the one very specific metric he kept touting was not ambitious at all

I think the idea was mainly that the public needed to hear a clear and consistent message with hard numbers attached which could be reliably delivered. This is already an advance on the daily lies, vague hand waving and "people are saying it's a beautiful program, it's the best" messaging that we were getting out of the previous jackass-in-chief.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

I'm sure some of that was just about communicating that there is a plan and allowing people to see ahead. I take comfort knowing that they're setting goals and not just letting things roll out in a slapdash manner.

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

(That was an xpost. Aimless OTM.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

My mistake; the Doocys are father and son. My position — that Biden should make every effort to reduce the younger Doocy to tears — remains unchanged.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

The Canseco face turn has been a real delight for someone who discovered baseball at the height of the Bash Brothers.

Curt Schilling would be a disgrace to the Hall of Fame

— Jose Canseco (@JoseCanseco) January 26, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

xpost the lesser Doocy

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

55-45 vote against Rand Paul's motion that the impeachment is unconstitutional because Trump is no longer in office. Senate Minority Leader McConnell voted with Paul.

— Jake Tapper (@jaketapper) January 26, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

the walrus was Paul

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

if they didn't look so damned much alike (and comically assholish), one good bit would be to keep telling Peter that Steve's not his real dad

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

so 45 senators agreed that impeaching trump is unconstitutional

yeah he's not getting convicted, again

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

sorry to get very negative, but between that and not abolishing the filibuster, that's the end of the country. might be 2, might be 5, might be 10

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

ok it could be 20

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

Could he still be barred from running again?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

when you're president, you can do whatever the fuck you want

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

getting to pin 90% of Republican Senators as being pro-insurrection and anti-America is still probably a good thing

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:37 (three years ago) link

they were already pinned as that. more than 90%

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

they realized they can get "pinned" and it doesn't matter as long as trumpists own the state GOPs and all the republican house districts, and 41+ senate seats

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:39 (three years ago) link

Meantime, here's a read.

https://theslot.jezebel.com/remembering-rahmbamarama-the-obama-eras-most-zealous-f-1845897371

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

me lreading Ned's link:

https://tenor.com/pbsQ.gif

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

Apropos of nothing, I go back and forth between thinking about Trump's value as a force that unifies and mobilizes opposition (and slighly fractures GOP unity now that he's out of office) and Trump's harm in keeping very dangerous people whipped up into stiff peaks of potential violence.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

the $15 minimum wage legislation has been introduced

the raise will actually be to $9.50 this year if passed, lifting to $15 in 2025

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

From Ned's article:

Rahmbamarama is the ultimate encapsulation of liberalism in the late 2000s

er, uh

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

Re the minimum wage: Great, by then it won't be a living wage in most places, either. The loathing these people have for the workers of this country is so palpable.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

the $15 minimum wage legislation has been introduced

the raise will actually be to $9.50 this year if passed, lifting to $15 in 2025

2027 would be more apt (the 15th anniversary of Fight for 15)

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

idk, it hasn't gone up in 12 years, doubling in 5 seems pretty signficant

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

they're about to break their promise on the supposedly "easy" thing of getting us all 2k i mean 1.4k the week after they're elected too.

satanist of size (map), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

Re impeachment: Even if it is in Republicans' collective long-term interest to convict, it is in each Republican senator's individual short-term interest to be seen as someone who didn't betray Trump. A vote to acquit will provide more political benefit, no matter the final outcome of the vote.

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

in that context it is certainly "significant" but yknow it's the context that's the problem xps

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link

oh well. i would have liked to see him impeached and barred from running again. but i am happy enough that he isn't the president.

treeship., Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

Fuck that nonsense.

One recent study shows $15 an hour isn't enough to secure affordable housing in most U.S. states. Nationally, someone would need to make $17.90 an hour to rent a one-bedroom apartment or $22.10 an hour to cover a two-bedroom home, according to analysis from the National Low Income Housing Coalition.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:07 (three years ago) link

It might be noted that $15/hr is the target amount that has been urgently pressed for by SEIU which, according to table, must be a prime example of workers' self-loathing.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link

anyone saying that raising the min wage to 15 by 2025 simply doesn't understand basic facts about how expensive it is to live in the US, or hates poor people, or both.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

The loathing these people have for the workers of this country is so palpable.

it is breathtaking

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

Sorry, anyone saying that raising the min wage to 15 by 2025 is *sufficient* simply doesn't understand basic facts about how expensive it is to live in the US, or hates poor people, or both.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

FWIW, the https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/top-democrats-introduce-bill-raising-minimum-wage-to-15-2/5 minimum-wage bill that Bernie introduced in 2019 also involved a gradual raise over 5 years.

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link

a) that was two years out of the five ago, already
b) feel like 2021 might have heightened the context of the dangers of a wealth gap somehow?

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link

a paper last month posited over 10,000 covid deaths were due to evictions, and that's going off figures from the summer

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link

just make it an even $20 and raise it a dollar every year, ie min wage in 2025 will be $25, 2030 -> $30 etc

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link

b-b-but it's not 2020!

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:27 (three years ago) link

aha! fair point and thank god i'm not out here writing checks. $21 it is!

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link

a) that was two years out of the five ago, already

Technically, Bernie's bill was 5 years (2019-24), the new bill is 4 years (2021-25), so it's only one year difference between when we get there.

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

Because we’re so far behind the curve a phase in is probably “politically necessary,” and to ease shocks and blah blah blah but that makes it all the more necessary to have a built in COL adjustment going forward.

If the minimum wage increases $.50 per year after 2025, its baked in to labor calculations and easy to deal with even for “small businesses.”

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 21:38 (three years ago) link

the minimum wage would be about $24 if it had kept pace with productivity the way it did between the 50s and the 70s.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link

actually it kept pace from the 40s til 1968

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

lol the ohio minimum wage got a boost on jan. 1 - from $8.70 to $8.80

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

otm. Legislation should be to make it $35 now, to cover the next 12 years of inaction.

shivers me timber (sic), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link

on another topic, I appreciate all the renewed interest in how fucking awful Marjorie Taylor Green is, but where was all this stuff when she was running? I guess media was busy dealing with covid and Trump, but it's not like everyone didn't know this. Now it's all "omg she is Qanon and wanted dems executed!" Uh, yeah.

akm, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link

Mmmm I remember reading about her and I knew a Qanon candidate was in the race, it's just that her district was probably going to elect her because of exactly what she stands for and no one could really change that? Idk what else could have been done.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:27 (three years ago) link

yeah there was definitely talk about it but every fucking week of the Trump administration was so bonkers and infuriating that it probably got buried

frogbs, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

The people who elected her knew exactly who she was.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

otm

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:56 (three years ago) link

we drove through her district back in the summer to see Howard Finster's Paradise Gardens and her signs were everywhere. like, more than Trump.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:57 (three years ago) link

honestly she could make a decent run at primarying Kemp

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 22:57 (three years ago) link

just putting this here in case

A spokesman says @SenatorLeahy has been taken to a hospital. pic.twitter.com/6WHaJGRWmn

— Steve Herman (@W7VOA) January 26, 2021

satanist of size (map), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:03 (three years ago) link

yikes, R governor in VT

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:08 (three years ago) link

You can breathe a little easier about Phil Scott. He's on the record as saying that he would have appointed a Democrat had Bernie been chosen for Biden's cabinet.

If Sanders were to leave his position within the Senate, the current governor would be able to appoint a temporary replacement until a special election could be held.

Gov. Phil Scott, who is running for reelection, noted that there are several moving parts to the hypothetical situation but asserted he would keep the seat within the party until a replacement could be named.

"Historically, whenever there's been an opening with the Legislative branch, appointed a person in the position from that party," Scott said. "I would choose someone — if we're playing the 'what-if' game — that is independent, that isn't seeking the office."

Scott also noted any potential appointee would caucus with the Democrats in the Senate, a crucial note with the possibility of a 50-50 party split looming in the chamber.

jaymc, Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

thanks!

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

Senator Patrick Leahy has been hospitalized and is being evaluated.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link

.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:25 (three years ago) link

Democrats should consider not having all their most powerful members be 900 years old.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:31 (three years ago) link

also otm

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Tuesday, 26 January 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link

Democrats should consider not having all their most powerful members be 900 years old.

He was born several years before the US entered WWII. Do you not want someone who has a broad perspective on conflict presiding over the impeachment trial of a president who tried to overthrow the government with a coup, so that he could keep hosting golf tournaments for $?

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link

lol the guy who's supposed to preside over the impeachment trial is dying of old age. good stuff.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:11 (three years ago) link

I think it's the Chief Justice who officially presides.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link

normally yes but Roberts declined this time

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:14 (three years ago) link

the CJ has no constitutional obligation to preside

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:15 (three years ago) link

President pro tempore presides over impeachments of non-presidents.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link

xpost also he smells bad

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:17 (three years ago) link

Thanks for the corrections. I've never seen an ex-president's impeachment trail before and those finer details have escaped me.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link

Neither you nor anyone else, I think

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:20 (three years ago) link

i think the VP presides if the CJ does not, but the VP declined this time for obvious reasons, so they dug up the fossil who was next in line.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:21 (three years ago) link

I guess the February 2021 US politics thread will have things to talk about after all.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link

Anyway, it’s kind of subtle.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

In a statement released on Monday, Leahy wrote that the president pro tempore “has historically presided over Senate impeachment trials of non-presidents.”

lol

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:27 (three years ago) link

Right

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

Operative word is “historically.”

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

hysterically

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link

There is saying in there somewhere

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

in light of his predecessor's lack of transparency re: Putin phone calls, seems like getting asked about same by a major news network wld be a softball for a civics lesson *and* Putin smackdown, nice to see libs getting all excited instead about "owning" FOX

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 01:52 (three years ago) link

eh fair point, but honestly after the last 2 decades (ramping way up in '08, and then turning it to eleventy and ripping off the knob when Trump waddled into the fray) I have no real issue with pols treating anyone from Fox with the appropriate derision, including - or perhaps even especially - their "hard-news" personalities.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link

that, too, wld seem to echo Trump behavior...I don't think witholding on nat sec issues from even the shittiest reporters because you don't like the way they cover you is a precedent worth recognizing

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link

There’s a readout of the call made public. It’s not exactly Trumpian to give a non-answer to a question shouted out at the end of a press briefing like that.

“Big” Don Abernathy, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link

Dems have won every statewide election in WI since Trump's election. they've been close but I feel like a good D candidate will probably win here, especially given what an unparalleled disaster RoJo has been

I'm usually overly optimistic when it comes to stuff like this but 2020 was looked upon as a horrible year by basically everyone and Trump & the Rs played no small part in that, if things are back to normal after 2 years of Dem rule I think that'll really boost their chances. not to mention every R Senator is gonna have to go on record as either betraying their party or their country and I can't see either being good for their electoral chances

― frogbs, Tuesday, January 26, 2021 11:08 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

what’s feingold up to?

― k3vin k., Tuesday, January 26, 2021 12:45 PM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

President of fledgling liberal Federalist Society counterpart the American Constitution Society
https://www.acslaw.org/

I'd be shocked if he ran for statewide office again; he really pissed off Wisconsin Dems with what even his voters saw as a listless "this seat is rightfully mine, give it back mmkay" campaign against Johnson in 2016. He ran well behind Clinton here!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:05 (three years ago) link

Really no different from when he had the same joke reply to the same guy when he asked him if he picked his running mate yet.

One low key hilarious thing about stuff like that is Joe yet again demonstrating he’s quicker and funnier than people who spent months saying he “doesn’t even know where he is” and “can barely speak” etc

“Big” Don Abernathy, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link

well now i'm not going to get too excited that slappy joe's synapses can still randomly access a zinger

i just want Peter Doocy to get laughed at.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link

re: feingold, I guess I don't know a ton about wisconsin politics or why he'd be disliked by dems. I do remember him running behind clinton which stood out as biazrre to me at the time, but I never understood why that happened. surely he's a better pick than pretty much anyone else they've got

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link

Surely there's a beloved Buck they could run (lol)

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

of course if he wrecks him with some decent 'your mom' jokes i'll reconsider

xpost

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link

Feingold gave a speech where I work - I thought he was pretty good, idk how he ran behind Hillary

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link

Love yourmom

And jokes

Ha ha xp

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:20 (three years ago) link

well now i'm not going to get too excited that slappy joe's synapses can still randomly access a zinger

yeah, it doesn't take much to shout ".......NO U" at the same guy repeatedly

that said, you do like to see it

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 03:51 (three years ago) link

Technically, Bernie's bill was 5 years (2019-24), the new bill is 4 years (2021-25), so it's only one year difference between when we get there.

seems like going into the midterms with your "$15 minimum wage" promise having resulted in a $15 minimum wage is a better position than going in with a $9.03 minimum wage and the new promise that you absolutely won't reach $15 before the next election btw

this all seems chill:

https://www.tiktok.com/@claudiamconway/video/6922092264554646789

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 05:36 (three years ago) link

into this

These are the people a President Sanders or Warren (or Inslee) would have appointed. https://t.co/kNDbnGoKtE

— Rick Perlstein (@rickperlstein) January 27, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 05:52 (three years ago) link

part of me reads this and things: this guy is nervous

Today, I made clear that if Democrats ever attack the key Senate rules, it would drain the consent and comity out of the institution. A scorched-earth Senate would hardly be able to function. It wouldn’t be a progressive’s dream. It would be a nightmare.

I guarantee it.

— Leader McConnell (@LeaderMcConnell) January 26, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 06:26 (three years ago) link

Dumbass toothless bluff, only likely to work on the many Dem senators who are much dumber than McConnell

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 06:33 (three years ago) link

Senate would hardly be able to function.

Yup, Mitch. Under your wise guidance the Senate functioned like a dream. Wouldn't want to mess with that level of success.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 06:39 (three years ago) link

Making the Senate hardly able to function is my job dammit!

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 06:43 (three years ago) link

tbf that is exactly what he says

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 06:46 (three years ago) link

surely this emoluments clause thing does need to be investigated to prevent it being abused again.
Can anything be done?
JUst hearing that it wasa procedural thing that was worded to combat abuse during the actual incumbency.
Cos otherwise like obvious major flaw in ability to prosecute overt crime.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 08:39 (three years ago) link

News: Sen. Tom Carper introduces the Washington, D.C. Admission Act to make DC the 51st state.

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) January 27, 2021

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 14:39 (three years ago) link

News: Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema protest.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

Would be nice to see some sort of sign that Schumer has any plan whatsoever to navigate this shit. At this point, I assume it's reconciliation and nothing else.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 14:52 (three years ago) link

.@mtgreenee, is this you harassing @davidhogg111 weeks after the Parkland shooting, that my daughter was killed in & he was in? Calling him a coward for ignoring your insanity. I will answer all of your questions in person. Get ready to record again.pic.twitter.com/aQjL74x7kh

— Fred Guttenberg (@fred_guttenberg) January 27, 2021

Jfc, yes, I knew MTG was a terrible human being already, but I was not prepared for how angry that video would make me. An abhorrent human being.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link

Senate President Pro Tem Patrick Leahy will open today’s Senate session at 10:30; LIVE, C-SPAN2

— Sen. Patrick Leahy (@SenatorLeahy) January 27, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link

I hope this thread is correct

☀️ Punchbowl AM: The ghost of 2009

Dems controlled all of govt. it took them forever to pass obamacare bc they first waited for Rs to support. then they squirmed

They later regretted doing too little too late. unemployment went to 10%. they lost the majority

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) January 27, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

Nice

Thune, 60, said he’d make his announcement "at some point in the future.” Johnson, 65, said he didn't think he had to decide "for a while." Grassley, 87, said he would make his announcement in "several months." Shelby, 86, said, "I'll let you know." Murkowski says she’s running

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) January 27, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

Nice bag of euphemisms

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

re the jake sherman thread, i hope so too. i think we all do lol.

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

i keep wanting to call my senators but they're the worst gop trash

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

"I am running for the border first, and reelection second," said Louisiana Sen. John Kennedy.

this sounds like he's gonna pop into a Taco Bell

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

he would

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

it's truly insane that Chuck Grassley even thinks there needs to be an announcement of running for a SIX YEAR TERM at 87

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

can we put the Dairy Queen tweet on his tombstone as his epitaph

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

xpost Never underestimate the restorative powers of infant blood.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:44 (three years ago) link

Isn't that a Dem thing?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link

Ugh no blood libels for anyone, please.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

hard to believe it's a battle to sell the american public on getting the same level of healthcare afforded a shitheel like Richard Shelby. we are truly the most acquiescent creatures to ever walk on two legs

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

if Thune doesn't run (maybe even if he does) Noem is going to run for his seat and given how fucked up SD is, she will win, and the prospect of her in the Senate is much worse than Thune, who sucks, but doesn't suck as much as she does.

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

i suppose it's theoretically possible that a Dem could win that race but unlikely

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:23 (three years ago) link

As recently as 2005, all four Dakotas senators were Democrats. But yeah, hard to imagine going back to that any time soon.

jaymc, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link

what the hell happened there? is it oil/gas money?

satanist of size (map), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

that, FOX news, Obama, racism.

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

I was in SD last year and was in a restaurant with a TV and there was an opinion thing running where someone was talking about it being time to bring Kaepernick back and at least two tables of old white people next to me almost had fucking strokes, they started twitching, shaking their heads, "no, absolutely not, no way!" while eating their pancakes.

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

there's also been increasing suppression of Native voters.

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

Going back to MTG, I was depressed to read this story (posting the cached version so you don't get paywalled). I knew she ran unopposed but I hadn't looked into what happened and why.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cQALuaMJU7IJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/17/kevin-van-ausdal-qanon-marjorie-greene-georgia/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link

(I'll note that this guys sounds like he was completely the wrong person to run against her, and I think that story is probably not giving his domestic issues nearly enough weight. Women don't divorce people and get restraining orders out of the blue like this, not when there's a baby, so I'm suspecting that his punching a hole in the wall was not some outlier in his behavior)

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah, that story about MTG's opponent is depressing, though, even taking into account his shortcomings. Sadly, I think we're going to see a lot more of that type of thing. I've mentioned it on other threads, but recently even local candidates for the district school board of all things have had racist zoom bombers, death threats mailed to their houses, cars broken into, etc etc (and I live in a very blue city in a very blue state). There is a very real thread of terror aimed at progressive (and basically any Democrat) candidates of all stripes right now and I don't know that it's being discussed yet just how deep that runs.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:37 (three years ago) link

(nb I know the guy running against MTG was Republican, I guess I could expand that to say a thread of terror against any non Q candidate)

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link

the guy in the story was running as a Democrat, not a Republican.

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I think I was conflating his story with a different guy that was a primary candidate that got scared off as well.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

at any rate, I imagine by the time 2022 comes around someone will be better prepared to challenge her and she'll be out (if she's not forced out before then, which frankly is probably unlikely unless she breaks the law). At least by then, anyone running will know what they're up against.

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

I mean, I don't know. This is where my cynicism kicks in and I think she was voted in because of the violent bullshit she's spewed, not despite it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

agreed, but without Trump in the picture things may be very different

Nhex, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

When MTG originally declared her candidacy in 2019, she was running for Lucy McBath's seat in GA-06, but GOP leadership eventually persuaded her to run in GA-14 instead. Presumably the idea was that she couldn't win in a swing district, but would have much less trouble in redder territory.

jaymc, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

right but it remains to be seen whether or not that is in fact the direction the GOP is going to run in or if this stuff is going to peter out now that the entire country doesn't revolve around a conspiracy boomer

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:06 (three years ago) link

"I think she was voted in because of the violent bullshit she's spewed, not despite it."

she was voted in because no one ran against her.

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

fuck I mean, I probably could have moved to georgia and run against her and won, and I shouldn't ever hold elected office anywhere.

akm, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

magic the gathering

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

Trust me, I absolutely understand that she won because she was unopposed. But I don't think saying literally any wet blanket could have beat her really undersells what she is pushing and how many people were buying it. It's a dangerous assumption to make that she can be brushed aside so easily. I absolutely hope she is, but coupled with Boebert, it's not like she's a singular outlier.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

ugh, "but I do think saying.."

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

Congress needs to get serious about America’s debt. We are $27 TRILLION in debt thanks to Washington's out of control spending & inaction on the debt limit. We must act now to put the U.S. on a fiscally successful path. Read more in my letter here: https://t.co/WoMJWydPYv

— Rick Scott (@SenRickScott) January 26, 2021

lmao that ratio

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link

I agree that Congress needs to get serious about America's debt......to marginalized communities and the exploited labor class

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

"Well, Trump is gone now, guess I finally have a chance to take a look at the ole' budget spreadsheet, haven't broken it out in years...HOLY SMOKES!"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 19:42 (three years ago) link

oh so let's allow the former CEO responsible for the biggest Medicare fraud in American history pontificate about debt

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link

fuck I mean, I probably could have moved to georgia and run against her and won, and I shouldn't ever hold elected office anywhere

i promise you she's a rock star in her district

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

folks,, this is GOP 2024 frontrunner energy

Since we're doing old videos of Marjorie Taylor Greene harassing people, here's her from before she was elected, in Feb 2019, turning up in Congress to try & get @IlhanMN & @RashidaTlaib to retake their oaths on a Bible & not a Quran:
(h/t @ehananoki)pic.twitter.com/YMr7InKYqZ

— Mehdi Hasan (@mehdirhasan) January 27, 2021

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

Boebert for veep plz.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

So Mitch is in Mar-a-lago today? FFS!

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

they've just got so much more wild-eyed intensity and authenticity than pampered try-hards like Bachmann or Palin could ever muster

people really feel that and respond to it

xpost

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

covid hotspot, florida

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

idk if it's been discussed yet but it looks like some pretty good climate-oriented EOs were signed today

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

The executive actions include establishing climate change as a national security priority,

empty guff

conserving at least 30% of federal land and oceans by 2030 and

means less than nothing. 30% of federal lands and oceans that still remain during the second term of President Greene, if those lands take out a means-tested loan for a small business in a developing neighbourhood. how about 100% by 2021?

canceling new oil and gas leases on public lands and waters.

into it if this means "newly granted," not "halting future grants"

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

directing the Department of the Interior to indefinitely pause new oil and gas leases on public lands and offshore waters “to the extent possible.” The order does not specifically ban new coal leases and leaves fossil fuel leases on tribal lands up to their discretion.

oh well!

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 22:47 (three years ago) link

apply this link to ^ too

Moreover, Biden is directing a review of existing fossil fuel leases and development projects, and asked the Interior Department to find ways to boost renewable energy projects, especially offshore wind, on federally owned water and land.

good. how's the staffing and leadership at the Interior rn?

The American Petroleum Institute, an oil and gas trade association, balked at the new restrictions. “Restricting natural gas and oil leasing and development on federal lands and waters could threaten U.S. energy security, economic growth and good-paying American jobs,” API tweeted.

or it could do the opposite. fair play to them.

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

A key part of the executive orders is creating new offices and committees focused on addressing specific climate problems and goals. Besides formally creating a new White House Office of Domestic Climate Policy, led by Gina McCarthy, a former head of the Environmental Protection Agency, Biden on Wednesday established a National Climate Task Force that directs members across agencies and departments “to enable a whole-of-government approach to combating the climate crisis,” according to a White House memo.

Biden is also creating a Civilian Climate Corps Initiative designed to create new jobs in conservation, an Interagency Working Group on Coal and Power Plant Communities and Economic Revitalization to take on projects that cut the pollution from existing and abandoned fossil fuel infrastructure, as well as a White House Environmental Justice Interagency Council and White House Environmental Justice Advisory Council to boost environmental justice monitoring and enforcement.

ok this makes for some headlines but is there --

Few details were provided on exactly who will be spearheading the many new efforts, how much funding they will receive, or timelines for delivering on these bold goals.

-- oh.

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link

FWIW, it's pretty clear that they really DID have a Day 1 plan at this point:

When President Biden swore in a batch of recruits for his new administration in a teleconferenced ceremony late last week, it looked like the country’s biggest Zoom call. In fact, Mr. Biden was installing roughly 1,000 high-level officials in about a quarter of all of the available political appointee jobs in the federal government.

At the same time, a far less visible transition was taking place: the quiet dismissal of holdovers from the Trump administration, who have been asked to clean out their offices immediately, whatever the eventual legal consequences.

If there has been a single defining feature of the first week of the Biden administration, it has been the blistering pace at which the new president has put his mark on what President Donald J. Trump dismissed as the hostile “Deep State” and tried so hard to dismantle.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/27/us/politics/biden-government.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 22:57 (three years ago) link

Just think - they’ve been at this for a week!

A week.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link

Where’s my $2k

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link

Your $2,000 $1,400 tax adjustment is still in the works.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

Raymond otm

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link

You’ll get it in the form of coupons from Joe Manchin’s daughter’s company. You can have one third of an epi-pen!

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

We need to give Americans a choice: your gun or your truck. Pick one, you can't have both.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link

how's the staffing and leadership at the Interior rn?

Biden's nominee, Deb Haaland, will be the first Native American to lead a cabinet-level agency. This Fox News piece explains all the things Republicans and the fossil fuel industry (but I repeat myself) hate about her. There are a lot.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link

There is no more telling way to convey the corruption inherent in having a Trump branded property just blocks from a Trump White House than its desolation a week into the Biden era. https://t.co/72gOx7J014

— David Folkenflik (@davidfolkenflik) January 27, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

they're retiring but not fast enough. retire fossils!

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/federal-judges-retire-joe-biden_n_600f3759c5b676ad837652a8?rz


As of Wednesday, Biden has 46 district court vacancies and three appeals court vacancies to fill ― numbers that will only continue to grow.

The president has some work to do if he wants to counter the effect that Trump had on the nation’s courts. Thanks in large part to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s laser focus on confirming judges, Trump put more than 230 people into lifetime judgeships. That’s far more than Obama (175), Bush (206) and Clinton (204) confirmed in their first terms.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link

ouch yeah I don't even wanna see a list of the oldest Federal judges appointed by Dems, GTFO all of you

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

really DID have a Day 1 plan

good stuff.

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

has Breyer handed over his resignation or does he need to be visited by 3 fucking ghosts

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link

The Ghosts of Sic, Milo, and Sleeve.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

I’ll tickle his feet until he retires.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link

lol, I'd prob yell and cuss a lot

I'd cave if I were him

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

the FUCK you thinking you goddamn corpse, get the hell outta here

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

He told Slate in December he had no plans to retire, but that he would eventually.

Even-headed thread re: cancelling private prison contracts:

So those are pluses. But, while this move is appreciated, it's hard to be too excited by it. First, President Obama did most of this in 2016. I remember that day, celebrating the move. It was a big thing, for 2016. But here we are, 5 years later, with largely the same move. 4/10

— Udi Ofer (@UdiACLU) January 27, 2021

shivers me timber (sic), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link

bring your scythe and use it menacingly imo

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:54 (three years ago) link

That NYT article reminded me of this anecdote (as recounted in Michael Lewis's The Fifth Risk):

On his visits to the White House soon after the election, Jared Kushner expressed surprise that so much of its staff seemed to be leaving. “It was like he thought it was a corporate acquisition or something,” says an Obama White House staffer. “He thought everyone just stayed.”

jaymc, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 23:55 (three years ago) link

The thing is, if I brought a scythe, I'd try to scare him into retiring. He's stared down Nino and Alito, so who the fuck knows the limits of his selfishness.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link

omg that Kushner quote

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link

It’s like he’d never read or thought much about how federal politics work.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link

(Which he probably hadn’t.)

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link

I just finished reading 'Golden Gulag' and yeah, that private prisons EO is fine but doesn't actually accomplish much.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link

It’s like he’d never read or thought much about how federal politics work.

― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:04 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

(Which he probably hadn’t.)

― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings)

Breyer?

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link

Hahaha

Nah the Kush

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:10 (three years ago) link

btw I do think Breyer will retire this year, just not now. There's too much other shit going on.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link

Joe Biden had won it,
The Democrats had done it,
And Donald read the comics all the while.
Covid babies being born,
Mitch McConnell we would scorn,
So down on the beltway,
SCOTUS went on trial.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:15 (three years ago) link

sometimes i wonder what a guy like Kushner would end up doing if he were not born into wealth & privilege and "raised" by unscrupulous jackals

middle school principle, relentlessly mocked by the teachers every bit as much as the kids?
TPS report guy at Initrode?

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:19 (three years ago) link

marjorie taylor greene makes complete sense when you realize she doesn’t even live in the rural district she represents. she lives in a wealthy north atlanta suburb and she used to come into the whole foods i worked at to yell at my friend for cutting her ham too thin

— Mohammad (@MargBarAmerica) January 27, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

One of Obama's first EOs was to shut down the prison at Guantanamo Bay... look how that worked out.

Why we still have a base on Cuba is beyond me... it's barely 90 miles from Florida, we're no longer at war with Spain.. let it go.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link

have you lived in Miami

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:31 (three years ago) link

No.. forgot about that

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link

Xpost MTG is every moderator on local Re-Open Our Schools Facebook Groups

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link

xpost I know a lot of Cubans actually work on the base, so they probably wouldn't mind if it stayed.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link

i knew MTG was a wealthy real estate lady. impressive how much better she connects with the crazy than Loeffler. i suppose it helps if you really Believe.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 28 January 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link

AOC's on Chris Hayes' show now unilaterally praising the Biden EOs on climate push.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

Hmph, how dare she, time to cancel AOC

CumuloNIMBY (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:24 (three years ago) link

huh funny all the assholes that said AOC should know her place and stfu, she's had pretty non-negligible effect on the party platform as a whole (not just her, obv, the squad, Bernie, etc).

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link

“I’m feeling extraordinarily encouraged,” says @AOC discussing Biden’s executive orders on climate. pic.twitter.com/e41hk8Qe15

— All In with Chris Hayes (@allinwithchris) January 28, 2021

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link

huh funny all the assholes that said AOC should know her place and stfu, she's had pretty non-negligible effect on the party platform as a whole (not just her, obv, the squad, Bernie, etc).

I disagree with this. The party platform has absolutely shifted to the left, in no small part because of Democrats like Sanders, Warren, and the Squad.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

I think you will find upon rereading that you do agree with that.

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 28 January 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

Lol you are correct, I blame the wine

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link

SCOOP: Sen. Dianne Feinstein fails to disclose husband's stock purchase, says she's willing to pay a fine https://t.co/REpoFJomGk via @businessinsider

— Kimberly Leonard (@leonardkl) January 27, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link

AOC's on Chris Hayes' show now unilaterally praising

omg she's broken from the party to praise Biden

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link

xpost "leading by example"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link

fined by fiat

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:43 (three years ago) link

xp why would jared kushner have gone into education and become a principal?

treeship., Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link

that is one of the weirdest things i've read on ilx.

treeship., Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link

when AOC's lost sic

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

yeah idk I guess he sort of reminded me of a middle school principle I had once

and not a cool hero educator by any stretch

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

xpost
so yeah probably more of the TPS report guy.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Thursday, 28 January 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

I just caught up today with the story of that crazy Q congresswoman being named to the Education and Labor committee (checked back and it was discussed here a week ago). That's so awful. All those Parkland parents should ask for a hearing or something where they can confront her.

clemenza, Thursday, 28 January 2021 05:50 (three years ago) link

less truth and reconciliation, more truth and hardsonning

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 28 January 2021 13:12 (three years ago) link

“There are no consequences in the Republican caucus for violence. No consequences for racism. No consequences for misogyny. No consequences for insurrection. And no consequences means that they condone it. It means that that silence is acceptance," says @AOC. pic.twitter.com/4jkKfb718K

— All In with Chris Hayes (@allinwithchris) January 28, 2021

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 28 January 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link

I've heard a few people over teh last couple of days saying taht the new administration's security set up hasn't come into being yet so the actual effect of things can't have been fully felt. GOP are scum which is pretty much a given by now isn't it?
Hopefully there will be wider cosnequences.

Have heard taht a possible overlooking of th enon ringleaders in teh insurrection has been changed. Sounded like FBI etc were going to let those people not 'actively involved' in the insurrection weren't going to be prosecuted which sounds a bit loopy since those people were involved in being inside the Capoitl in an armed mob which should be bad enough in itself and would have been unthinkable under most circumstances. Heard people talking about their disappointment in that yesterday morning which may have dated from at least teh night before but it seemed that thought had evolved since then and prosecution would be done. Does seem like i might have been right about FBI etc having sympathy with the right wing which is outrageous or at least should be.

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 January 2021 13:35 (three years ago) link

Not sure if this si going to be up after teh end fo the live transmission but this si a talk bewtween Angela Davius and Palestinian Profession Ilan pappe.
It starts with Davis talking about the events of January 6th
Talk with US activist Angela Davus and Palestinian professor Ilan Pappe tht is just starting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKVY-yRE78

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RKVY-yRE78

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link

Not sure if you can copy URL from those. Or you can look up the 2 names. Can't get the link to work anyway

Stevolende, Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link

link is fine for me

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Thursday, 28 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

Their discussion of the zero sum game approach to politics reminds me that yesterday I got lost in comment thread before realizing that I had just read a fox news article and the main take in there seemed to be coalescing around the idea that Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats allowed the riot to happen by ordering the Capital Police to stand down. The suicide was obviously because a Capital Police officer "knew too much". What Dems stood to gain by risking their lives and having one of those officers murdered during the last week that Trump was in office was never fully explained, but they all seemed to understand it. I'm guessing that they saw it as a 5d chess gambit - that Dems planned to take advantage of angry Trump supporters by letting them into the Capital after Trump's speech, which allowed them to call it an insurrection and draft articles of impeachment so they could prevent him from running again. But now the Republicans have recognized all of this for the charade it was and are outsmarting the the Dems by voting against convicting Trump. It isn't some Q crazy secret history or hidden voter fraud that makes Biden illegitimate, it's just how they see politics as usual -everything that happens must come down to the battle between us and them and is driven by projection that the other side must be approaching it the same way, there is no such thing as win-win or even compromise from this perspective.

BrianB, Thursday, 28 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

In non-vaccine news, our Joe Biden approval tracker is up! So far he's at 54% approve and 35% disapprove.https://t.co/n2XzvOgs0J pic.twitter.com/v4Z8sJ6wbG

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) January 28, 2021

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 28 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

The 35% who disapprove are not disapproving his actions, but his existence.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Thursday, 28 January 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link

Polls are fake! if you add the approve and the disapprove you get 89.. may i remind you that 8+9=17, and the 17th letter is... Q

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 28 January 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

Lol Trump is gonna be mad that Biden's numbers are better'n his were.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link

Was gonna say, it's interesting he has the lowest net approval of any new president they chart, excepting Asshole.

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link

In a polarized era, that's the best we can expect

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link

seems like a similar approval rating to dubya in the beginning, but yeah a much higher disapproval. nobody gives anyone a chance anymore

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 29 January 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link

what's the opposite of a patreon? I want to start one for nate silver

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 29 January 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link

His average approval differential is +18 right now. Trump was underwater about two weeks into the job lmao

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 January 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link

a Natreon

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 January 2021 00:10 (three years ago) link

shortreon

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 29 January 2021 00:10 (three years ago) link

mixed a margarita tonight!

Polls are fake! if you add the approve and the disapprove you get 89.. may i remind you that 8+9=17, and the 17th letter is... Q

― Andy the Grasshopper

um, no offense, but you can play with numbers like that get just about anything you want to find. but if you apply the same science to other words, you'll find that you miss far often than you succeed. for example, to take a pertinent example:

Andy the Grasshopper
44 + 33 + 142 = 219
2*9 = 18, but only if you forget (take away/remove) the remaining 1...leaving 17. Q

WTF?! is it in everything?!

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 January 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link

the only part i don't understand is how andy is controlling joe biden and what's going to happen after biden dies of old age/senility in a couple months

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 January 2021 01:51 (three years ago) link

44 + 33 + 142
77 + 142

7_7 + 142
G G + Grasshopper?

wtf? (49?)

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 January 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link

44+33 = 77

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 January 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link

keeping serious track of political polls while using ILX is like injecting brain poison with a syringe made of brain poison

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 29 January 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link

Is that this 'new math' I've been hearing about?

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 January 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link

what, and I cannot stress this enough, THE FUCK pic.twitter.com/Jk22apzDSH

— Sweatpants Cher🔸 (@House_Feminist) January 27, 2021

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 January 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link

cursed videos of 2021

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Friday, 29 January 2021 02:39 (three years ago) link

I... what did I just watch was it satire? Tell me that wasnt real. Middle aged men living in the Young Ones?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 29 January 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

I feel like pieces on the fratty gross Schumer house surface every few years or so.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 January 2021 03:13 (three years ago) link

that's pretty weird honestly

treeship., Friday, 29 January 2021 03:16 (three years ago) link

Is this what happens when men dont have wives doing all their shit for them.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 29 January 2021 03:22 (three years ago) link

Does that give you confidence in them running the country. I mean I don't run something as important as that or let news crews in to film squalor.
Seems odd that they would let things get so bad or let that get out.
Public image needs them to appear organised surely. The broken windows directive may have been shown to be problematic and not work as supposed but right now I would think they would be doing their best to instil confidence not destroy it.

Stevolende, Friday, 29 January 2021 05:25 (three years ago) link

So many questions

Evan, Friday, 29 January 2021 05:42 (three years ago) link

1. huh?

Evan, Friday, 29 January 2021 05:42 (three years ago) link

Alpha House is a TV show from 2013, this video is ancient

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Friday, 29 January 2021 05:52 (three years ago) link

Indeed! But even so!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 29 January 2021 05:55 (three years ago) link

I guess I just assumed most senators are disgusting and reek of shit and garbage up close

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Friday, 29 January 2021 05:56 (three years ago) link

So Twitter clickbait strikes again. The cliches are getting worse than youtube thumbnails at this point.

Evan, Friday, 29 January 2021 06:07 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbpYx7r7lR8

This 30-second clip is representative of the half-hour program. Dude subsequently ran the most incompetent federal budget in living memory, and was then appointed ambassador to the US, where his job has consisted of instagramming himself smoking enormous cigars, and writing "stop the steal" editorials until approx 9.7 seconds before the raid on the Capitol.

shivers me timber (sic), Friday, 29 January 2021 06:21 (three years ago) link

Well now no wonder the last 4 years happened if one can have no confidence in the then opposition leader because of the squalor he allows himself to live in.
Couldn't they get a new guy who could at least afford a domestic cleaner or organise one.

I thought the broken windows policy was well known and the parallel would be pretty clear. I mean if he's living like that like for real what details in what he's supposed to be organising is he overlooking.
I mean come on surely the public has a right to know?

Just found out that ironically one of the big exponents of the broken window policy was Mayor Rudy Giuliani.

Stevolende, Friday, 29 January 2021 08:05 (three years ago) link

Actually that's then minority senate leader not party innit.

Stevolende, Friday, 29 January 2021 08:07 (three years ago) link

The broken windows policy has also been proven to be disastrous racist bullshit, so there's that, too.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 29 January 2021 12:06 (three years ago) link

I did say it was problematic

Stevolende, Friday, 29 January 2021 12:12 (three years ago) link

thought it was a really good analogy for waking up in the middle of the night and responding with.
I mean criminal neglect as an interior decorator can't beat it can you

Stevolende, Friday, 29 January 2021 12:16 (three years ago) link

A bunch of overgrown fratboy fucks acting like overgrown fratboy fucks isn't surprising to me, I guess. These are the sorts of dudes who never learned to do anything around the house for themselves, and they mostly go to this house to sleep.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 29 January 2021 12:22 (three years ago) link

Still, would hope for more from the head of the senate. Maybe the dems need a new role holder. Maybe have done for a while.h

Stevolende, Friday, 29 January 2021 12:24 (three years ago) link

what was that story from a few years ago about a fairly high-level republican who leased a property in d.c. and when he moved out the landlord discovered he had literally not once taken out the trash - there were like two rooms of rotting trash bags, spilling out of the doorways

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 January 2021 12:27 (three years ago) link

ah it was scott pruitt. of course. head of the EPA who literally cannot stop his own home from becoming polluted with garbage.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/despite-sweetheart-deal-pruitt-was-reportedly-a-nightmare-tenant-who-never-took-out-the-trash.html

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 29 January 2021 12:28 (three years ago) link

table OTM here, this is wholly unsurprising and also kind of unimportant

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 29 January 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

Still would be nice to know that after 4 years of a giant size baby thing constantly wanting his nappy changed that the next set of leaders were all grown ups wouldn't it?

Stevolende, Friday, 29 January 2021 15:04 (three years ago) link

for a lot of affluent straight white males, hitting bottom with alcoholism is really their only chance of ever growing or changing as people

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 January 2021 15:06 (three years ago) link

I mean, when society in its entirety has been molded to cater exclusively to you, where's the impetus?

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 January 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

Alpha House is a TV show from 2013, this video is ancient

― fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Thursday, January 28, 2021 11:52 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

The CNN reporter dropping the word "metrosexual" makes it seem even older

jaymc, Friday, 29 January 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

Go big, Chuck!

But many Democrats say privately that they see little hope of attracting the 10 Republican votes they would need to overcome a filibuster and avoid using the budget reconciliation process to advance the bill unless they significantly scale back Mr. Biden’s ambitions.

Haunted by what Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, the majority leader, referred to as the “mistake” of 2009, when the Democratic Party was in control of both chambers and the White House but was “too timid and constrained in its response to the global financial crisis,” top Democrats are pushing to avoid settling for a small package.

“If our Republican colleagues decide to oppose this urgent and necessary legislation, we will have to move forward without them,” Mr. Schumer said, adding that he planned to press ahead with a budget resolution as early as next week.

did he get a spine implant?

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Friday, 29 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

He really, really doesn't want to fight for his political life down the line is my assumption.

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 29 January 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link

or his literal life

global tetrahedron, Friday, 29 January 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

good news

satanist of size (map), Friday, 29 January 2021 17:38 (three years ago) link

Interesting breakdown on how the cases against the capitol invaders are shaping up

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/the-federal-case-against-the-capitol-insurrectionists-is-becoming-much-clearer

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 29 January 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

Think we should have the offenders for dinner.

And by that i mean we should actually eat them

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

And if Schumer fails us, feed him to them.

Helluvan ecosystem that

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 January 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

I'm gonna regret saying this but I'm actually kind of...optimistic about what Schumer and Biden are doing so far?

frogbs, Friday, 29 January 2021 17:58 (three years ago) link

like what i'm hearing but i've been hurt too many times

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 29 January 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

it's quite possible that they'll manage to put together an ambitious package through reconciliation, it's also quite possible that nothing else ambitious will happen beyond that.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 29 January 2021 18:17 (three years ago) link

hmmmm yes

satanist of size (map), Friday, 29 January 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link

At least most of the harm has been paused it seems.
So at least first do no harm seems to be happening which is a step forward from waiting for the other boot to drop and finding that the person upstairs has more feet than you expected

Stevolende, Friday, 29 January 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link

President Biden is asked if he supports using reconciliation to pass covid relief. “I support passing covid relief with support from Republicans if we can get it. But the covid relief has to pass. No ifs, ands or buts,” he says. pic.twitter.com/3IOgmkrTme

— Jennifer Epstein (@jeneps) January 29, 2021

Holy crap, his clothes fit.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

Good! Honestly aren't the GOP being a bit dense on this one? It passes either way, they have the chance to at least take some of the credit.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link

It's such a small thing, but I'm so happy to see him photographed in a mask so often already.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

my prediction: mcconnell will force the democrats to use the reconciliation path for covid relief in order to test how well the public responds to the usual feigned outrage that the republicans weren't allowed to weaken it and water it down and therefore it is a travesty of democracy!!!!

if it polls well in the right states, he'll goad the democrats into nuking the filibuster and then go full bore on outrage over republican exclusion, "silencing" and "censorship" as the big election issue for 2022. if it polls badly enough, he may cooperate a bit more in order to win some bipartisan brownie points, but still do as much as he can get away with to sink or ruin every democratic initiative.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

nuke the GOP imo

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

sounds good. how?

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

p sure outrage over republican exclusion, "silencing" and "censorship" are all dead letters electorally if they're up against "massive and effective COVID response and even more massive economic recovery act" but i agree with you that Mitch will probably try it anyway, there are plenty of talking heads and editorialists ready to parrot the story ad nauseum

Doctor Casino, Friday, 29 January 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

It's such a small thing, but I'm so happy to see him photographed in a mask so often already.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), F

^^^ I can't explain some of my mild happiness when I see Biden on TV, and I realized: he takes fucking masks seriously.

he takes fucking masks seriously.

eyeswideshut.jpg

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

The $1.9 trillion package Biden proposed is pretty modest in reality, compared to the size of the problems, and the results it is able to produce my fail to impress the ordinary public, who will judge the administration according to the most basic "do I feel good about everything now?" standard. I doubt mediocrities like Manchin and Sinema would buy into a $4.5 triilion package, so this is what we'll get.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

lol crut

satanist of size (map), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link

do I feel good about everything now?" standard

it really is as simple as giving. people. money.

satanist of size (map), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

taxing rich fucks and giving people money is an insanely popular thing the democrats have never tried

satanist of size (map), Friday, 29 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

my prediction: mcconnell will force the democrats to use the reconciliation path for covid relief in order to test how well the public responds to the usual feigned outrage that the republicans weren't allowed to weaken it and water it down and therefore it is a travesty of democracy!!!!

i think even he realizes that maybe 1 voter in 1000 gives a shit about procedural issues. there is no need to test this empirically.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

The truth is that since '16, down-ballot Rs have struggled the most when Trump is *not* on the ballot ('18 blue wave, GA runoffs, etc.) From a raw political perspective, there's little incentive to "move beyond" him.

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) January 29, 2021

this is extremely true and a reason to be maybe a little bit optimistic that the democrats will cling on in 22.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:29 (three years ago) link

otm

it really is as simple as giving. people. money.

The $1.9 trillion package does some of this, but not to a level that will really move people's emotional needle out of the crisis zone. bleh.

One immediate problem is that the membership of Congress will remain static until 2022 and as far as anyone can tell, yet, the margins favor the center-right and continued timidity. The one gleam of light is that those margins are very slim and possibly external pressures could move a few votes over the threshold. At least the Democrats now control the Senate floor and can bring House-passed bills to a Senate vote.

The other immediate problem is that, once again, a Republican regime has created a huge mess of crisis proportions for a Democratic regime to try to clean up and that effort will absorb immense amounts of time and attention from institutions that have become nearly crippled or paralyzed.

yeah. nuke the GOP. identify their crimes and prosecute the criminals. asap.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link

"... when Trump is *not* on the ballot..."

I think they can still write him in on the "Patriot Party" ticket, yeah? Don't worry about any other contests, just write in TRUMP!, that's my advice to the faithful

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 29 January 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

I'm gonna regret saying this but I'm actually kind of...optimistic about what Schumer and Biden are doing so far?

― frogbs, Friday, January 29, 2021 12:58 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I am cautiously optimistic as well, there could have been a lot more fuckups or backpedaling by now

like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

this is extremely true and a reason to be maybe a little bit optimistic that the democrats will cling on in 22.

I guess 2022 will be a good day to die.

RandPaul's Drag Race (Leee), Friday, 29 January 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

my prediction: mcconnell will force the democrats to use the reconciliation path for covid relief in order to test how well the public responds to the usual feigned outrage that the republicans weren't allowed to weaken it and water it down and therefore it is a travesty of democracy!!!!
i think even he realizes that maybe 1 voter in 1000 gives a shit about procedural issues. there is no need to test this empirically.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, January 29, 2021 3:02 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

god yeah the senate esp the older ones are so up their own butt about the grand institution and literally everyone thinks they are fuckheads and no one cares

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

These senate rules are infuriating. If nothing ever gets passed with the defined majority, and filibusters and reconciliation are now the norm, why not just fucking make everything pass with a simple 51 vote majority? All this shit does is waste time.

akm, Friday, 29 January 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link

Sometimes I think that's the whole idea.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 29 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link

hmmmmmmmm you may be onto something

satanist of size (map), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:25 (three years ago) link

yeah that seems to be the feature not the bug that sTriCt cOnStYOoOtIoNaLiSt cheer.

I suspect a lot of centrist Dems are secretly glad for it as well

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 29 January 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link

Allows them to place the blame on Republicans instead of on Joe Manchin.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 30 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link

Bonus points for making the worst people in the world incoherently angry.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 30 January 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

Just saw a story that Biden declined to extradite Anne Sacoolas.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 30 January 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link

Not to re-litigate this, but it seems like it would be better if sic posted the url, stripped of the tracking info, rather than vice versa.

DJI, Saturday, 30 January 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link

Not if performative rage, rather than utility, is the point.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 30 January 2021 02:50 (three years ago) link

sic there's no need for that kind of language

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Saturday, 30 January 2021 03:25 (three years ago) link

I feel like caek and stet have pretty definitively debunked sic's "issue" here, maybe take it to the mod req board dude?

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Saturday, 30 January 2021 03:54 (three years ago) link

I thought it was just a running bit

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Saturday, 30 January 2021 04:02 (three years ago) link

The Democratic representative Cori Bush said she is moving her office away from that of Republican Marjorie Taylor Greene due to safety concerns after Greene and her staff berated her and refused to wear masks.

“I’ve worked fast food. I’ve worked in childcare. I’ve worked in healthcare. I’ve never been in a work environment like this before,” Bush said in an interview with MSNBC’s Joy Reid on Friday evening.

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 30 January 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link

tbh what's surprised me is how Biden has not yet sounded querulous or senile

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 January 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link

soooo how long until we vote to expel MTG and Boebert

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 January 2021 04:06 (three years ago) link

“What I cannot do is continue to look over my shoulder wondering if a white supremacist in Congress, by the name of Marjorie Taylor Greene … is conspiring against us,” she said.

fuck yeah, call her what she is

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 January 2021 04:07 (three years ago) link

Bonus points for making the worst people in the world incoherently angry.

no need to call sic names

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 30 January 2021 04:46 (three years ago) link

These senate rules are infuriating. If nothing ever gets passed with the defined majority, and filibusters and reconciliation are now the norm, why not just fucking make everything pass with a simple 51 vote majority? All this shit does is waste time.

― akm, Friday, January 29, 2021 4:13 PM (seven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

One maneuver that's been floated (notably by Bernie in 2019): The Democrats push whatever they want under the guise of budget reconciliation, the Senate parliamentarian says "Hmm, I don't think that qualifies," and then Kamala as Senate president overrules and says "Sure it does."

jaymc, Saturday, 30 January 2021 05:44 (three years ago) link

But yeah, it's stupid that they have to resort to convoluted workarounds instead of just passing legislation with a simple majority, as the Founders intended.

jaymc, Saturday, 30 January 2021 05:55 (three years ago) link

leeeeroy jenkins

The Biden WH is full of aides who remember the futility of seeking GOP support eight years ago.

With that in mind and a sense of urgency about the current crisis, they’re ready to go big — and soon — with or without Republicans.

New w/ ⁦@hookjanhttps://t.co/HZFeguK91S

— Eli Stokols (@EliStokols) January 29, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 January 2021 06:25 (three years ago) link

tbh what's surprised me is how Biden has not yet sounded querulous or senile

almost like those were just trump talking points

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Saturday, 30 January 2021 08:16 (three years ago) link

i saw him speak in person during the primary campaign and they were not trump talking points.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 January 2021 08:18 (three years ago) link

seems like it would be better if (Raymond) posted the url, stripped of the tracking info (...) if (...) utility is the point.

good point btw

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 30 January 2021 10:34 (three years ago) link

Biden absolutely has absolutely gotten worse at controlling his stutter in recent years, whether that is just age or senility I'm not qualified to say.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 30 January 2021 13:29 (three years ago) link

Sorry, guys. I guess I’m just used to copying and pasting links - I missed that there’s a step in between. Will try to do better in the future.

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 30 January 2021 13:39 (three years ago) link

It looks like I'll need to make hard shopping choices:

NEWS: Alex Jones played a greater role than previously known in organizing the Jan 6 rally where Trump told supporters to go to the Capitol, helping bring in a top Trump donor—a Publix heiress who gave $300K—who worked w/a Trump fundraiser on the event. ⁦ https://t.co/L0cgC5hG9i

— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) January 30, 2021

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 January 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link

Fuckkk. I knew the Publix heirs were Trump donors but damn this is quiiiite a development.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link

I think it’s more than a little noteworthy that people like Jones, Ali Alexander, etc haven’t been charged with anything quite yet, because this kinda fits what people like the DC US Attorney have been saying anyway — the ‘obvious’ people have been relatively quickly picked off. They’re delving deeper as they go and 2 to 1 says all kinds of Interesting Conversations are happening behind the scenes between personal lawyers and government attorneys.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

So Publix is the sole distributor of the vaccine in Florida? christ

brownie, Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

well, no, several hospital chains do it too

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

and Publix yesterday pulled out of the Palm Beach County deal.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

Yea that was the pilot program, it's definitely not Publix here in Seminole. Thankfully!

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:40 (three years ago) link

Sorry, guys. I guess I’m just used to copying and pasting links - I missed that there’s a step in between. Will try to do better in the future.

― Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, January 30, 2021 7:39 AM (fifty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Raymond you are one of the most considerate and contientious posters on ilx and have absolutely nothing to apologize for

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:40 (three years ago) link

Yea that was the pilot program, it's definitely not Publix here in Seminole. Thankfully!

Ah cool.

brownie, Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:44 (three years ago) link

It may be strange to say it but a piece this blunt is also oddly refreshing?

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/30/biden-covid-vaccine-states-463953

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 January 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

itisamystery.jpg

The first place I would check for the missing 20 million doses is Mar-A-Lago or just wait for the Trump-branded Vaccine to appear.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

I found them!

They were under my bed

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link

Also, this would seem to point to streamlining and centralizing the vaccine distribution on the federal level, not that the federal government couldn't also lose 20 million doses.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link

xp, spare a couple or four doses, Alfred?

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link

Trade ya for Campari and Italicus.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link

THat story about the medical team getting stuck behind a jackniefed vehicle and wanting to distribute their vaccines before thehy went off was so touching weren't it? doubly so that they had all the requisite administrative forms with tehm when it happened so they knew who needed a follow up jab.

Stevolende, Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

SOMEONE hit the crackpipe before their cornflakes this morning

... You can never beat him because We The People have his back.

The blood thirsty media and the socialists hate America Democrats are attacking me now just like they always attack President Trump.

I can promise you this...

— Marjorie Taylor Greene 🇺🇸 (@mtgreenee) January 30, 2021

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

She should not have been allowed to run in the first place.

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:15 (three years ago) link

Allowed by whom? You just have to pay a few bucks and you’re on the ballot generally. Provide evidence you live in your district I suppose

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:22 (three years ago) link

The GOP, for starters (lol).

Canada's Conservative Party, which is the closest thing we have to the Republicans, recently kicked out a member because he'd unwittingly accepted a donation of 131$ from a notorious white supremacist.

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link

We're not that high-minded.

meticulously crafted, socially responsible, morally upsta (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

I must say that I didn't expect MTG to be at least as batshit as Lauren Boebert, mostly because I'd only read about the latter prior to the election.

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

Greene, Boebert, Cawthorne are the fucking Three Stooges of the freshman class.

akm, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link

Will take a bit for most to realize it. But with this call Trump has made Greene de facto leader of the House GOP caucus. She speaks for him and he supports her. So she is untouchable. Nominal leaders like McCarthy will fall in line and take her lead because they answer to Trump.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 30, 2021

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

The GOP, for starters (lol).

Canada's Conservative Party, which is the closest thing we have to the Republicans, recently kicked out a member because he'd unwittingly accepted a donation of 131$ from a notorious white supremacist.


Yeah we don’t have real parties that you can get expelled from here!

In my state primaries are open and you can write any nonsense as your party preference, hence candidates last cycle declaring themselves part of the “Trump Republican” party

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

I just can't get over the name Madison Cawthorn. It's like a name for an rpg villain I would have made up when I was eleven.

Smokahontas and John Spliff (PBKR), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

Such is the price of Real Freedom™, I suppose.

xp caw caw motherfuckers

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link

Keep thinking about this piece https://newrepublic.com/article/158977/madison-cawthorn-future-republican-party

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:49 (three years ago) link

These details are all suggestive rather than definitive. But the suggestiveness is telling in and of itself. As countless observers of the far right have noted, part of the game the far right plays online is to maintain what writer Talia Lavin calls “a winking plausible deniability.”

I fucking hate how these people have murdered ambiguity forever.

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

I hate how they’ve murdered people

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

(Lay up, sorry)

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

No, no, it's cool.

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

as others have pointed out with Frankfurt School cites etc., the "winking plausible deniability" was a characteristic of fascism in its first incarnations, so ambiguity has either been fucked since then, or has survived despite it all.

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

William Empson weeps.

pomenitul, Saturday, 30 January 2021 16:56 (three years ago) link

🐦[Will take a bit for most to realize it. But with this call Trump has made Greene de facto leader of the House GOP caucus. She speaks for him and he supports her. So she is untouchable. Nominal leaders like McCarthy will fall in line and take her lead because they answer to Trump.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 30, 2021🕸]🐦


Can’t wait for the post “death of Stalin” hi jinx and power struggle that will ensue once the big (wet) man croaks.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 30 January 2021 17:08 (three years ago) link

Bitcofer working for the Lincoln project and now this...

Usually people running grifts are a little smoother than this. pic.twitter.com/j3BtS1SoRu

— Isaac Chotiner (@IChotiner) January 30, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

🐦[Will take a bit for most to realize it. But with this call Trump has made Greene de facto leader of the House GOP caucus. She speaks for him and he supports her. So she is untouchable. Nominal leaders like McCarthy will fall in line and take her lead because they answer to Trump.
— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) January 30, 2021🕸]🐦


I think this is true, but if McConnell also thinks it’s true then it’s an argument for him to vote to convict Trump.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

BOSTON — A Massachusetts congressman who has received both doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine has tested positive for the virus.

The office of U.S. Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-MA 8) said Friday that the lawmaker had had a negative test result before attending President Joe Biden’s inauguration. The office says Lynch’s positive test result came after a staff member in his Boston office tested positive earlier this week.

A statement says Lynch isn’t displaying any symptoms of COVID-19. Lynch will self-quarantine and vote by proxy in Congress in the coming week.

Lynch is the second member of the state’s congressional delegation to test positive in as many days. On Thursday, U.S. Rep. Lori Trahan announced she had tested positive after repeatedly testing negative.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 30 January 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link

Wonder when he got his second.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Saturday, 30 January 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

Conclusive proof that 95% is not equal to 100%!

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Saturday, 30 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

Unless "Stimmy" is the name of an underage Ninja Girl with 36DD bewbs in some PS5 Anime game that Reddit is fundraising a "free speech protest" over because Sony insisted she needs to wear a top in the U.S.; I don't think you "get" what this crowd actually cares about 👍 https://t.co/y3K7rjVkPs

— MovieBob Productions (@the_moviebob) January 30, 2021

just wanna say thanks to this weirdo for the new dn

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Saturday, 30 January 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

Can’t wait for the post “death of Stalin” hi jinx and power struggle that will ensue once the big (wet) man croaks.

While it's easy to relish the prospect of Schrodinger's Trumpism tearing apart the party's attempts to reconstitute and unbrand, I'd also be wary of a) believing Greene's own tweets at all, let alone ones based on a specific Trumpian formula, or b) giving significant weight to the analysis of JoshTPM.



(NB Raymond, I assure you I did not intend to single you out with that in-context citation.)

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 30 January 2021 20:13 (three years ago) link

Stimmy stimmy koko bop

Copybara / pasteybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 30 January 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

That said, I would also relish elected Republicans everywhere attempting to jockey for position solely by tweeting context-free assertions about exactly how excellent their largely imaginary phone calls with a big loser were

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 30 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

The order provoked alarm across the oil industry, as energy companies worried they wouldn’t get approval to drill new wells or swift approval to amend permits for ongoing drilling operations.

So far, there’s no sign of that blockade.

phew

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 30 January 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link

Speaking of vaccines under the bed: obviously the lack of a federal vaccine plan is the major factor in disarray. But lol / fuck at the details in this long report on the techbro who was seen grabbing bagfuls of shots at his own distribution site:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/29/962143659/in-philadelphia-a-scandal-erupts-over-vaccination-start-up-led-by-22-year-old

It started out as a group of college friends who wanted to help during the pandemic. They had tech skills, so they used 3D printers to make face shields. Then they organized as a nonprofit, Philly Fighting Covid, and opened a testing site in a Philadelphia neighborhood that didn't have one yet.

But the organization's leader, Andrei Doroshin, had bigger ambitions. Even before the first coronavirus vaccine was authorized, he made plans to be involved. Doroshin is a 22-year-old graduate student in psychology at Drexel University. He has no background in health care.

The marketing plan hinged on inoculating local celebrities like rapper Meek Mill, a Philadelphia native, in order to attract his fan base.

"This is a wholly Elon Musk, shooting-for-the-heavens type of thing," Doroshin said. "We're gonna have a preemptive strike on vaccines and basically beat everybody in Philadelphia to it."

Doroshin described scaling up until they were managing five mass vaccination sites and 20 smaller sites scattered throughout the city. He claimed they could vaccinate between 500,000 and 1.5 million people. And they would make a lot of money doing it.

"This is the juicy slide," said Doroshin, clicking over to the financing plan. "How are we gonna get paid?" He explained that the vaccine doses were free, provided by the federal government. But Philly Fighting Covid could bill insurance companies $24 a dose for administering it.

"I just told you how many vaccines we want to do — you can do the math in your head," he said.

"We're engineers, we're scientists, computer scientists, we're cybersecurity nerds. We think a little differently than people in health care do."

"We took the entire model and just threw it out the window," Doroshin added. "We said to hell with all of that. We're going to completely build on a new model that is based on a factory."

By Jan. 9, Doroshin had a deal with the Philadelphia Department of Public Health and Mayor Jim Kenney's administration.

Let's not do it and be legends.

Kenney was also hopeful that the arrangement would help diversify the racial breakdown of vaccine recipients. At that point, only 12% of vaccinated Philadelphians were Black — in a city where 44% of residents are Black.

"Equitable distribution of this vaccine is extremely important to our entire administration," said Kenney at the Jan. 8 kickoff event.

But in an early sign of trouble, Philly Fighting Covid failed to verify its progress on the equity goal. After that first vaccine event, at which 2,500 doses were administered, City Council President Darrell Clarke requested the demographic breakdown of the recipients. But the health department told him that Philly Fighting Covid had somehow lost all of the racial and ethnic data for the patients.

The investigation revealed that in December, just before Philly Fighting Covid began its vaccination work, it reorganized and became a for-profit company called Vax Populi.

Philly Fighting Covid had spent months organizing city-funded testing events — at which residents reported good experiences. But in January, it abruptly shuttered those operations, leaving partner organizations in the lurch.

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 30 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

The Idaho Statesman has identified several thousand doses of COVID-19 vaccine that were shipped to Idaho, set aside for a federal public-private partnership — and then went unused.

More than 10,000 of the doses are being returned to the state’s control this weekend, for use in upcoming vaccination clinics.

The pharmacies had administered just 6,186 of those 33,150 doses as of Jan. 19, and hadn’t yet reached more than 80 facilities that had signed up for the program, according to a presentation to the Idaho Coronavirus Vaccine Advisory Committee. Walgreens had given 4,490 shots and CVS had given 1,696, the presentation said.

That number grew by a few thousand over the next week and a half. CVS and Walgreens had administered a total of 10,433 doses to Idaho long-term care facilities by Jan. 28, according to federal data. That left more than 20,000 still unused at that point.

Meanwhile, Idaho public health officials and local health care providers have been saying the biggest bottleneck they faced was not having enough vaccine to give to people who wanted it.

shivers me timber (sic), Saturday, 30 January 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

haha man oh man is there anything a public-private partnership *CAN* do??

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 30 January 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

I dont care if Bitecofer works for the LP but I do care that she's fucking annoying, has a bitmoji as her avatar and expects to be taken seriously, and now just seems to be asking for money all the time. I actually stopped paying attention to her back in the fall after she made some stupid claims.

akm, Saturday, 30 January 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

I liked Bitecofer's "there are no swing voters, it's all about the strength of each party's hatred for the other side" analysis. It was correct. More people hated the last president than hated the new one, and nobody was "undecided," just preening for attention.

I don't give money to politicians or political causes, so her current mode doesn't offend me. I am likely to unfollow her on Twitter soon, though. She writes long go-nowhere threads that I don't care about. I'd rather read one big article from her every six months. But that's not how the world works anymore, so.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 30 January 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

I'd rather read one big article from her every six months. But that's not how the world works anymore, so.

I get what you're saying, but that's sort of a funny thing to say about someone who is technically an academic political scientist

rob, Saturday, 30 January 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

this is so stupid. people who like checks don't like it. people who don't like checks don't like it. way to go!

.@POTUS will build on the $600 down payment provided by Congress last year, sending an additional $1,400 to households across America, totaling direct payments to $2,000 per person. pic.twitter.com/9zfBJT7t7O

— The Democrats (@TheDemocrats) January 30, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 30 January 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

Ladies and gentlemen, the Democrats!

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Saturday, 30 January 2021 23:57 (three years ago) link

Re: meek mill etc. Wow, so strange that no one until now had thought of using a celebrity influencer as a means of social marketing

Mind blown

Totally an Elon Musk level of innovation going on

Keep it up, bros - surely this groundbreaking outside-the-box innovative thinking will be a game changer

Copybara / pasteybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 31 January 2021 00:17 (three years ago) link

rather have 1400 than 0, especially because it'd be a huge help to my folks (and help me tamp down some foolish debt I amassed), but just silly to not just make it an even 2k. money isn't real and it's a pandemic.

also give this amount every month.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link

cos right now the Feds suggested Florida close their bars and restaurants and DisingenuSantnis is refusing to issue the order because he's pretending he cares about the livelihood of employees in bars/restaurants, but if the Federal government actually gave them $2k/month to stay home....maybe they fuckin' would! and not have to worry about staying afloat.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

I hope this 1400 thing is a manchin/sinema requirement and they’re not really this stupid.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 31 January 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

whynotboth.jpg

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 31 January 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link

59-seconds of truth bombs on the requirements of elected leaders in America...pic.twitter.com/N2o00KATDC

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) January 29, 2021

real galaxy brain shit

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 31 January 2021 00:55 (three years ago) link

real galaxy brain shit

Um, are we really going to entertain the idea that we need to put a whole bunch of exclusions on who can or can't participate in law-making? That seems about as wonderful an idea as imposing poll taxes and literacy tests to limit who votes, or taking the vote away from felons, which form of voter suppression she seems to think applies everywhere, but doesn't.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link

Yeah I'm really unhappy w that spiel and also people baggin on Lauren Boebert for having her GED. Attacking adult learners and people with non-traditional paths to leadership is very profoundly NOT THE WAY.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Sunday, 31 January 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link

And incarcerated and formerly incarcerated ppl too, while I'm at it.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Sunday, 31 January 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link

You just know that when all the exclusions on who gets in and who's left out get drawn up that incompetents won't be among the first ones denied participation.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 01:21 (three years ago) link

Serious Inquiries Only spent a whole episode on the Dunning -kruger effect this week. Which seems pretty topical.

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 January 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link

i think "real galaxy brain shit" is a criticism and does not mean milo z is approving of this stupid liberal mom being an asshole in her kitchen and posting it on twitter

superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 31 January 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link

none of lauren boebert's problems have to do with her having a GED or having been arrested. she would be a fascist without any of those things.

superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 31 January 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link

More annoyed by the blue check sharing it than the suburban mom.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

POLI
TICS
GIRL

superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link

harbl -- of course. I was reacting to that suburban mom video plus a thread I stumbled over on twitter that was full of men calling Boebert stupid and being like, "Shouldn't have dropped out of high school maybe!" Lil too quick for like 40 men to line up to insult a woman's intelligence. Say that she's a fascist white supremacist who committed treason, and let's figure out how to stop her.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link

oh yeah i was responding to aimless, sry

superdeep borehole (harbl), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link

Meanwhile!

News — With a little more than a week before his impeachment trial is set to begin, President Trump's legal team is up in the air. Butch Bowers and Deborah Barbier, who were expected to be two of the lead attorneys, are no longer on the team, @GloriaBorger & I are told. Story TK.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) January 31, 2021

A third attorney, Josh Howard, who was also recently added to Trump's defense team, has also left, I'm told. Trump wanted the attorneys to argue there was mass election fraud and it was stolen from him rather than focus on proposed arguments about constitutionality.

— Kaitlan Collins (@kaitlancollins) January 31, 2021

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link

like getting arrested for murder and wanting to spend the entire trial arguing that you are pretty sure the neighbors stole your lawnmower

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:43 (three years ago) link

but her emails

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link

Can we not do "suburban mom" as an insult?

Like, she could just be a person who's wrong about something

There are lots of those and they live lots of places

Some of them have or don't have kids

thx

Copybara / pasteybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:11 (three years ago) link

Isn't life a blast
It's like living in the past

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:22 (three years ago) link

i wanna be stereotyped
I wanna be classified

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:24 (three years ago) link

I know impeachment is the right thing to do but if it gives Asshole a televised platform to keep bleating about election fraud I'm ambivalent...

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:36 (three years ago) link

Asshole could be represented by Lionel Hutz and the Senate would nod sagely before acquitting him.

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:37 (three years ago) link

“Butch Bowers”

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:39 (three years ago) link

Why does Trump even need attorneys, or a defense at all?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:46 (three years ago) link

i am sure he agrees w u

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link

can't we just stop give him attention? fuck him and the whores he rode in on.

StanM, Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link

Who?

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 03:57 (three years ago) link

Come, sweet February thread! Come and wash us clean!

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link

Trump wanted the attorneys to argue there was mass election fraud and it was stolen from him rather than focus on proposed arguments about constitutionality.

he won't be convicted, but if anything could make it happen it's this defense. a constitutional/procedural argument allows the more priggish senators to ignore what happened (which is obviously good for the GOP and what they want to do).

trump's defense plan heightens the contradictions inside the GOP, guarantees even more media attention for the trial, and makes clear he's never going to stop. can easily imagine this being worth at least a couple of guilty votes.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 31 January 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link

this is the defense republicans actually want, so they can acquit on procedural grounds

Honestly that might be the most likely outcome. https://t.co/2KNCRZSE0g

— Max Kennerly (@MaxKennerly) January 31, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 31 January 2021 04:17 (three years ago) link

Butch Bowers is the name of the abusive dad of bully Henry Bowers in Stephen King’s It.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 04:24 (three years ago) link

Ok so looks like it was a singularity that there would be no talk on a given day. Maybe these threads will self perpetuate thanks to that t disease which will do the same. I take it he can't make himself odious enough that he will just be dropped. & at the moment he is causing enough chaos and misleading enough people that he remains a 'useful idiot' for foreign powers to abuse.

Roll on the day that he breaks the last straw and even Putin finds him no longer useful.
Oh well roll on Feb hope it's quieter. Normally a pretty dead time of year apart from Valentine's day so peace and love and wow Easter eggs already in the shops but no lovey dover tat is there no love or commercial version left in this world.

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 January 2021 08:02 (three years ago) link

xpost That's what I was saying, I wasn't joking. Why would he even bother showing up or participating in any way? Why even bother with lawyers? He's not president anymore, what are the repercussions? Let the democrats say bad things about him for a week, don't say a word in response, and then he'll be acquitted anyway. If there is anything the previous impeachment/four years showed it's that there is no amount of evidence that can be presented that would get a conviction.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

"don't say a word in response" - like that's going to happen. I bet he's going to represent himself, bigly.

StanM, Sunday, 31 January 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

"Ok so looks like it was a singularity that there would be no talk on a given day. Maybe these threads will self perpetuate thanks to that t disease which will do the same." I read this four times and still do not understand a word of it.

akm, Sunday, 31 January 2021 16:30 (three years ago) link

late period Rush sometimes got a little left-brained

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 16:33 (three years ago) link

people were saying up thread that it seemed like this thread might not continue to be busy as it had done at the start of the month.
Something like 2 days after the inauguration there were something like 3 posts all day.
But it seems like just because that t disease taht has been epidemic for the last 4 years despite having had his media access blocked will actually continue to be a pain and looks like his BS has infected several others in the party he adopted.

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 January 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link

An update on immigration/family reunification:

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/31/biden-migrant-family-reunification-463999

Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

The “you said $2000 checks” thing is a fairly bad faith thing. I mean I think we all knew the argument was $2000 instead of the $600 not “in addition to” but whatever make it $2000 or more at this point. Money is real.

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

O IS IT

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link

but like reallly isn't t a disease? I mean he ain't my idea of a comforter.
& he seems to spread like a virus so the last year of his incumbency seems so significant dunnit.
Maybe its rabies or something.

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link

xpost Oh, I know Asshole won't stay mum. I'm just asking what the risks or repurcussions are if he did. As far as I can tell, the answer is "none." It's not a legal proceeding, per se, in that there's no threat of jail or fines or anything, right?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 17:54 (three years ago) link

At this point, I am weighing the efficacy of a second impeachment (particularly since no one really expects him to face any repercussions) against just letting the schmuck fade further into obscurity.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

is there a difference?

To me, the big question is whether the democrats can manage it enough to resemble an actual trial or will they immediately lose control of the proceedings and let it turn into a clown show?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

If the other side, in whatever guise or under whatever representation, is allowed to say a single thing, then it will be a clown show.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

This is pretty much a reality version of a Sideshow Bob episode of the Simpsons, kinda hard not to keep it turning into a clown show.

earlnash, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link

Like, there's no need for a defense because there *is* no defense. At best you'll get a bunch of variations on the ol' Susan Collins hand-wringing, at worst you'll get Rand Paul or John Cornyn or Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley saying, well, anything.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

Hope this doesn't undermine the new administration from being able to get anything further done.
Would be so nice if current investigations lead to significant people being removed but assume that would be a longshot.

Oh right, heard teh Skullduggery episode with Al Franken earlier where several quotes about the popularity of Cruz appear so I assume must be the original source.
Hadn't realised Franken was doing his own podcast too

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link

The defense will be purely a bullshit technical argument that you can't impeach a president who isn't in office anymore

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link

Feeling much better about the mainstream/leadership democratic senate these days. Still not sure about manchin and sinema and one of the 50 could croak at any time but maybe they’ll get something done.

Regular people don’t care whether we pass something with 51 or 60 votes. It’s a pandemic and the largest economic contraction in 90 years. We must ignore those who call anything a Republican proposes a compromise, and anything a Democrat proposes partisan. We have to deliver.

— Brian Schatz (@brianschatz) January 31, 2021



President Biden should declare a national emergency on the climate crisis.

Donald Trump declared a fake emergency for his ineffective, wasteful wall. That was no emergency.

The climate crisis is an emergency.

— Chuck Schumer (@SenSchumer) January 31, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

So one of the founders of the Lincoln Project is...a superpredator, basically.

21 Men Accuse Lincoln Project Co-Founder of Online Harassment

John Weaver, a longtime Republican strategist and co-founder of the prominent anti-Trump group the Lincoln Project, has for years sent unsolicited and sexually provocative messages online to young men, often while suggesting he could help them get work in politics, according to interviews with 21 men who received them.

His solicitations included sending messages to a 14-year-old, asking questions about his body while he was still in high school and then more pointed ones after he turned 18.

These messages from Mr. Weaver, 61, who helped run John McCain’s presidential campaigns in 2000 and 2008 and John Kasich’s in 2016, did not lead to physical encounters except in one consensual case, and none of the men accused Mr. Weaver of unlawful conduct. Rather, many of them described feeling preyed upon by an influential older man in the field in which they wanted to work, and believing they had to engage with his repeated messaging or lose a professional opportunity.

Mr. Weaver sent overt sexual solicitations to at least 10 of the men and, in the most explicit messages, offered professional and personal assistance in exchange for sex. He told one man he would “spoil you when we see each other,” according to a message reviewed by The New York Times. “Help you other times. Give advice, counsel, help with bills. You help me … sensually.”

Lincoln Project leaders, in their first extended comments about Mr. Weaver, said they had not been aware of such allegations until this month, when a magazine article and an open letter on Twitter from a data analyst named Garrett Herrin accused Mr. Weaver of grooming young men online.

Steve Schmidt, a co-founder of the group, said its leaders had learned last summer from social media posts that Mr. Weaver, who has a wife and two children, might be involved in relationships with men, but emphasized, “There was no awareness or insinuations of any type of inappropriate behavior when we became aware of the chatter at the time.” Mr. Weaver denied the claims, Mr. Schmidt said in an interview.

In mid-January, after the allegations gained public attention, Mr. Weaver issued a statement acknowledging he had sent “inappropriate” messages and apologizing “to the men I made uncomfortable,” while saying he had believed all of his interactions to be consensual. He said he would not return to the Lincoln Project from a medical leave that began in the summer.

The organization has issued a statement, which is creepy as fuck in its own way.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtEzdQnXYAIiRQA.jpg

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:45 (three years ago) link

I don't know who's wearing the Chuck Schumer skin suit, but he or she is OK by me.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

I mean I think we all knew the argument was $2000 instead of the $600 not “in addition to” but whatever

I think the context here is that the Democrats have a history of own goals like this, so what you're sensing is the collective eye-rolling of millions of Americans when they make a straightforward promise like "$2,000 checks for all!" and then immediately and predictably are like "asterisk - paragraph of technicalities"

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Sunday, 31 January 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link

I mean I think we all knew the argument was $2000 instead of the $600 not “in addition to” but whatever make it $2000 or more at this point.

You’d be incorrect. Even some of the people who dutifully read the politics thread here for two hours a day were confused by this - because the messaging focused on $2k even after $600 checks passed.

The Squad’s amendment was a ‘top up’ to $2000 before the $600 passed, yes, but expecting people to read the text of amendments instead of the tens of millions of dollars in advertising taken out is ridiculous.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link

Yeah that’s the bad faith meme bullshit I was talking about. I get the recreational aspect of that and wanting to be another guy who does that.

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link

“You gotta understand the context of memes”

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

Xpost

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

Keep repeating "bad faith" and maybe it will become true.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

Ok

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

money is only "real" when it's being used to help poor and working people

and i promise you in georgia not a single person was getting the message that electing Ossoff & Warnock meant $1400 rather than $2k.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link

Money is real.

just incredible

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:09 (three years ago) link

Yeah again we’re pretending it was $2000 in addition and not instead of the $600. But whatever just make it $2001 at this point

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

Make the entire plane out of the checks so it doesn’t crash

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

you are, needlessly, such a fucking prick

Joses Chrust (map), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

Money is real.

just incredible

imagine thinking this in United States of America in the year 2021

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

Money is real.

Time for a poll.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link

ehh, nothing to get polled about
"Money is real" forever.

Doctor Casino, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link

Please Will give me your “not real” money. I’m the uhh...money inspector.

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:19 (three years ago) link

Map you’re out of line

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:20 (three years ago) link

welcome to ILX, Don

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

(also, I FP'd you)

Überschadenfreude (sleeve), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:24 (three years ago) link

Huh?

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

Huh?

more rib tickling ilx humor I suspect

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

money is "real" insofar as it is used to discipline poor people

tell me how real it is when when trillions are shoveled into the pockets of telecoms, fossil fuels, and defense contractors

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

It seems a bit, um, unreal to simultaneously argue that money has no reality at all, while at the same time the difference between $1400 and $2000 is extremely consequential.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

Do I have to?

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

Xpost

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

Well i guess it would be nice
If i could
Start shitposting

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link

i know not every poster
has a shitpost like me

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

holy shit they're actually going to deficit hawk us again and by god we're going to roll over for it

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

It seems a bit, um, unreal to simultaneously argue that money has no reality at all

look like we're going to have an obtuse-off, competition is fierce

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

We can probably categorize “Money isn’t real” as a shitpost guys

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:35 (three years ago) link

Playing dumb vs. concern trolling

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link

Here's a proposition for you. It is imperative to send money to people whose lives are threatened by their current lack of money AND money is real. In fact, the second part is implied by the first.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link

legit pretending the objection to "money is real" is an ontological one jfc

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link

Lol

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:49 (three years ago) link

legit pretending the objection to "money is real" is an ontological one jfc

Pig ignorance of money and banking is as common as ear wax. Saying "money isn't real", when it is not supplemented by some hint of genuine knowledge, is indistinguishable from pig ignorance.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

bring back the gold standard!!!!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 January 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

so we can have the pleasure of killing it all over again!!!

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

yes, "money isn't real" is shitpost-y, but if you can't appreciate how it looks and what it means for Democrats to be wringing their hands over $1400 or $2000 for someone who hasn't worked in 10 months, all while dousing Rolls Royce in 180 million of 'covid relief funds', all i can say is enjoy those midterms

oink oink

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

Money is a group hallucination
like time
But quite convincing though.

Likely to make people go cold turkey if they try to withdraw from it though innit.

Stevolende, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

taking more offense at the (imaginary) notion that "money isn't real" than at the insulting horseshit justification for paltry relief that "money is real" says everything anyone needs to know abt your politics

fuck off

John Wesley Glasscock (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

Map you’re out of line

― “Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, January 31, 2021 7:20 PM (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

am i? you're a little bitch who still gets money from his parents

Joses Chrust (map), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

Money is a group hallucination
like time
But quite convincing though.

Add crime and a few other things to this list and we're good.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

can't do the crime if there is no time

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

add gender to the list too, for some reason i didn't want to get involved in this convo so i posted in the "posts you had second thoughts about" thread

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

Map, that simply isn’t true.

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

Sorry if this was posted already, but Miller literally told the national guard they were not allowed to arrest or even search any protesters on 01/06 -- memo written TWO DAYS earlier.

Smoking gun: The orders from Miller to the DC National Guard for January 6 included in linked article— is a must read. The DC guard were allowed no helmets, no body armor, no weapons. They were not allowed to stop or arrest protesters. Letter orders no interference with rioters https://t.co/py9y17iw0U pic.twitter.com/tjsLBVcbPn

— Holly Brewer (@earlymodjustice) January 30, 2021

xposts
dang yall grow tf up

ian, Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

what it means for Democrats to be wringing their hands over $1400 or $2000

I know what you're saying and it is probably closer to political reality than my perspective is.

It is a perspective that is totally blind to every single detail of how the US government works and reduces a complex situation down to two blobs called Republicans and Democrats playing tug of war. Except the Republicans don't really matter. As of Jan 20 the Democrats are Running Things Now, so whatever happens, it only happened because the Democrats wanted it that way. That's how the great blob called the Public sees politics, so that's The Truth.

Which is why the filibuster must be destroyed as soon as possible. Even then, nothing happens without at least 50 votes in the Senate, including Manchin and Sinema, or some Republican crossovers. Which I fucking hate, but that is the reality I see and live in.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

power is real and power manifests itself as money because we have been taught it is so
a fun thought experiment is to replace with "money" with "power" whenever you see it
as in the democrat party has campaigned on giving a universal and relatively small amount of power to people but both internally and externally the interest is more in making sure it is exactly the right amount of power rather than in getting that power distributed
because if too much power goes out to too many people the people with lots of power are afraid the less powerful will keep their power rather than give it back

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

this thread needs $1400 real dollars worth of chill pills

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

wtf xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

xp, you mean... power pills?
https://www.google.com/search?q=play+pacman+doodle

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

Lol I'm the dude who said "money isn't real" and i can assure you i didn't mean it literally other than to say "lol who gives a fuck about the national debt rn when we're in a pandemic and much of the country was abandoned for much of last year and $600 isn't going to solve their problems but when trying to choose the amount to give our civilians maybe the HIGHER amount is the one to choose, not the smaller"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

that sentiment is otm

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

As of Jan 20 the Democrats are Running Things Now, so whatever happens, it only happened because the Democrats wanted it that way.

The Democrats spent tens of millions on advertising that said "$2000 checks" and had pictures of checks with $2000 printed on them prior to Jan 6, which is before Jan 20.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

Like gender, money is a made-up idea, but its effects distort society and ruin lives.

shivers me timber (sic), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

Popcorn is real

Qanondorf (darraghmac), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

real.gif

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link

NEWS: Schumer throws cold water on GOP group of 10's $600B COVID proposal: "They should negotiate with us, not make a take-it-or-leave-it offer," Schumer tells me. "It doesn't have any state and local money in it. Look at that, just as one thing."

Story coming soon.

— Michael McAuliff (@mmcauliff) January 31, 2021



Schumer: "We cannot do the mistake of 2009 where they whittled down the program so that the amount of relief was so small that the recession lasted 4 or 5 years. And then on the ACA, when they spent a year, a year and a half negotiating and then didn't come to any agreement."

— Michael McAuliff (@mmcauliff) January 31, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link

xpost No but you see we already received a $600 (well, some people did, I still haven't) down payment so it's all good

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

We need to be adopting Bernie's 2k/month plan but there's a non-negligible number of Democratic politicians (and voters) who believe "you gotta work to eat, man, possibly 60 hours a week. Do u think Bruce Springsteen's songs write themselves?".

Like those that are still working might idk actually get ahead and gave a future to look forward to when all this is over, those that aren't at least might get enough with that and unemployment to hopefully stay in their homes and not find themselves owing 9000 bucks in back rent when the moratorium ends, but that's "living for free", can't have that, even during a deadly epidemic where most non-essential people shouldn't be working.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:35 (three years ago) link

idk man if people start getting the idea that the government can do some Good Things in addition to instead of only the Bad Things who knows what could happen

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Sunday, 31 January 2021 20:41 (three years ago) link

Oct. 1, 2020

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:47 (three years ago) link

New polling from @ProtectOurCare:

With support across party lines, large majorities favor President Biden’s COVID rescue plan and want Congress to pass it.

After seeing the main provisions 74% favor the plan, including 46% who strongly favor it. 1/4 pic.twitter.com/sBrx3v4HuF

— Geoff Garin (@geoffgarin) January 28, 2021

ah shit, apologies xp

Ray Cooney as "Crotch" (stevie), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

Tbf it's even worse in some ways.

pomenitul, Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link

We need to be adopting Bernie's 2k/month plan but there's a non-negligible number of Democratic politicians (and voters) who believe "you gotta work to eat, man, possibly 60 hours a week. Do u think Bruce Springsteen's songs write themselves?"


These people suck but the fact that leadership is worrying about convincing moderate (self loathing, nervous, secretly right wing etc.) dems rather than republicans (who are apparently being treated as irrelevant) seems like progress. We’ll see I guess.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 31 January 2021 21:56 (three years ago) link

yes, I'm hoping that is the direction they keep floating towards.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link

looked at the miller memo and was stoked to see steven miller gonna get all splayed out but it's chris miller, who is not the miller i was looking for.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Sunday, 31 January 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

does seem odd that the secretary of defense ordered the national guard to basically prostrate themselves on 1/6

Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 January 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link

makes you think

it makes me think of the courageous "Anonymous" op-ed writer, who ended up being the assistant to the second best boy or whatever. he had to keep his name unsullied, so that he could continue to work incognito to stop trump from his worst excesses and maintain his cover

Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 January 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

it's pretty obvious Trump et al were trying for a weak, plausible-deniability coup which came frighteningly close to working since basically your work is done for you the moment you tell Capitol Police and the Guard "now let's play nice!"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

I dunno, at least some of Bruce Springsteen's songs appear to have been auto-generated, he has been absurdly prolific for decades

Copybara / pasteybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 31 January 2021 23:48 (three years ago) link

Idk if I’d call it weak, it’s genuinely scary to think about if they had succeeded at getting close to AOC and other congress members. It seems like violent intent was obvious and that’s been backed up by all the subsequent reporting and from what I can tell the media rhetoric hasn’t matched the serious of what happened.

“Big” Don Abernathy, Sunday, 31 January 2021 23:52 (three years ago) link

not "weak" as in "lol ur attempted coup was weaksauce, bro", 'weak' as in "we're not going to come right out and say 'stand down and let the protesters do their thing', we're going to pretend to support them and condemn violence while weakening security so that our hopefully desired outcome occurs and we can say we have nothing to do with it".

the media has been reporting how much more serious than initially reported it was for weeks. nobody is saying it was nbd anymore because it wasn't.

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 23:55 (three years ago) link

like that line in Evita "and with chaos installed, you can reluctantly agree to be callled.....(shouts of PERON!)"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 January 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

How many more revelations like this will it take GOP senators to vote the decent way during teh impeachment. LIke is there a tipping point or are they infinitely callous.
Are office phonelines perpetually busy with people trying to instil some level of conscience in a vacuum.

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link

Stevolende, do you read American news? No offense, but this has been covered every day. The GOP support insurrection and sedition

well, most of them don't QUITE say that out loud, just yet. although some do.

but yes, they do

Karl Malone, Monday, 1 February 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link

how many votes must the GOP shoot down
Before you call them all cunts
The answer, my friend
Is

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link

I saw the term 'Qunts" for the first time the other day.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

the candy for conspiracists

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 01:25 (three years ago) link

I thought they relied on conceivable denial and getting as many votes as possible. Or would that only count in a group still trying to perpetuate democracy.

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

they're the party of "if the President does it, it's not illegal"

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link

Former President Donald Trump has finally found lawyers to represent him during his Senate impeachment trial: an ex-prosecutor who declined to charge Bill Cosby and an Alabama attorney with ties to Jeffrey Epstein.

Bruce Castor and David Schoen will be replacing no fewer than five other lawyers who split with Trump over strategy days before his trial for inciting the mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

Trump reportedly wanted the previous lawyers to parrot his false claim that the 2020 election was stolen from him—the very accusation that led his supporters to carry out the deadly insurrection.

It’s not clear if the new lawyers plan to use that strategy.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-new-impeachment-team-ex-da-bruce-castor-alabama-lawyer-david-schoen

dow, Monday, 1 February 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

an ex-prosecutor who declined to charge Bill Cosby and an Alabama attorney with ties to Jeffrey Epstein.

could anybody else represent Trump besides someone with this pedigree?

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link

he'll probably add the ghost of John Phillips next

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 01:49 (three years ago) link

all the shits are brown

I honestly was expecting him to have Jared represent him.

Boring United Methodist Church (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 1 February 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link

he won't be convicted, but if anything could make it happen it's this defense. a constitutional/procedural argument allows the more priggish senators to ignore what happened (which is obviously good for the GOP and what they want to do).

trump's defense plan heightens the contradictions inside the GOP, guarantees even more media attention for the trial, and makes clear he's never going to stop. can easily imagine this being worth at least a couple of guilty votes.


Me otm.

Trump’s legal team exited after he insisted impeachment defense focus on false claims of election fraud
By @jdawsey1 @thamburger @amyegardner:https://t.co/mokiCqNL2U

— Cathleen Decker (@cathleendecker) February 1, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 1 February 2021 02:03 (three years ago) link

Also this is a better article than the headline

New: The Biden administration is starting to look like an ideological mullet — establishment and experience in the front-facing cabinet roles, with a progressive party happening in the back.https://t.co/wGFwHwShZd

— Kevin Robillard (@Robillard) January 31, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 1 February 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link

I was hoping for a 'frogressive

Copybara / pasteybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 1 February 2021 02:40 (three years ago) link

The Three Mulleteers

he looks like President Loggia

if Spaghetti-Os had whammy bars (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 03:10 (three years ago) link

the Onion's Biden articles definitely played a small role in him being President now

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 February 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link

He won more than 80 million votes. The Onion must be a more potent political force than I knew.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Monday, 1 February 2021 03:33 (three years ago) link

I said small! but it was the first time people started seeing him as charming

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 February 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link

I know we've moved on, but my take on the $2,000 stimulus is that, while the Democratic messaging around it was definitely ambiguous and/or not quite unified, a lot of people outraged about it seem to be using it to confirm their preexisting belief that Democratic leadership is hopelessly awful. It feels like it's become a symbol or a talking point rather than a good-faith debate about the details of the relief bill.

jaymc, Monday, 1 February 2021 03:46 (three years ago) link

30 million people voted for Joe Biden, 50 million for “the one who’s not Trump.”

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 1 February 2021 03:47 (three years ago) link

could the Dems just unilaterally pass a $2000 check?

frogbs, Monday, 1 February 2021 03:49 (three years ago) link

Unlikely to happen with a few asshole D senators not making the vote to 50, assuming they're going with reconciliation

Nhex, Monday, 1 February 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link

could the Dems just unilaterally pass a $2000 check?


Yes of they put space force hq in West Virginia.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 1 February 2021 03:55 (three years ago) link

Whatever covid relief bill passes, it will be done with reconciliation and it will contain whatever provisions the most timid of the 50 Dem senators is willing to vote for. Presumably Biden and Schumer will provide as many threats and sweeteners as they can muster to get all 50 ducks in a row. This wooing of blue dog Senate Democrats will be the theme song of this Congress.

Compromise isn't a principle, it's a method (Aimless), Monday, 1 February 2021 03:59 (three years ago) link

Space Force budget is more or less on par with West Virginia's entire GDP, so Manchin would really be bringing in the space bucks.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2021 04:01 (three years ago) link

"Ideological Mullet" thats the name of my 4th album.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 1 February 2021 04:42 (three years ago) link

The $600, which i have not got, is not enuf, and another $1200, which also i have not got, is what i thought would have to happen in order to make the $2000, which also still i have not got. $2600, also not got, would be even nicer, and now is the time. i am not sinead and i def want all of what i have not got.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Monday, 1 February 2021 04:57 (three years ago) link

Is Space Force still happening then? It wasn't shelved on the first day like the wall then? Labelled as trump's quixotic folly and punted into the closest bin.
Or used to denote the term trumpian as in utterly wasteful of govt budget and serving no practical purpose other than being something to laugh at, definitely not with.
Or are there brave new frontiers to fight on. While there's no great way to train for them. Maybe that secret base on the dark side of the moon to personnel?
I mean I assume there must have been a valid reason for starting a separate armed force beyond senility, right?

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 07:31 (three years ago) link

my understanding is that the space force is basically just a rebranding of air force programs that already existed. seems like it's more about satellites than warfare in space or anything like that.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 February 2021 07:50 (three years ago) link

But now, as the Biden administration settles in, some close allies of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky are opening up about one of the longest-running dramas from the Trump era — the blitz of meetings, messages and public statements in Ukraine by former president Donald Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani.
...

The new disclosures from Kyiv do not offer any bombshell revelations about Giuliani’s dealings. But they help fill in some blanks on his frantic — and unsuccessful — quest to press Ukraine to make statements seen as potentially helpful to the Trump reelection bid.

shivers me timber (sic), Monday, 1 February 2021 10:14 (three years ago) link

So glad to be being told that biden doing things by Executive order is fascist as I've seen said on twitter. Was thaht true of t too?

What's the February thread called.

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 12:49 (three years ago) link

"a little TOO quiet"

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 1 February 2021 12:56 (three years ago) link

that’s good

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 February 2021 13:07 (three years ago) link

space lasers being the first enemy of space force?
Is Blofeld somewhere in the mix.
nice to hear technology has improved since it was all down to lack of raking .

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link

Can we stop making anti-Semetic jokes even if we’re making fun of them please

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:26 (three years ago) link

Is there even an ounce of would-be 'plausible deniability' here? It's just blatantly antisemitic filth. I hope Jewish Republican voters have taken stock of the lack of condemnation on the GOP's part.

pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link

I thought I had intentionally left out references to semitism.
Blofeld isn't ethnicised that way is he? I was just getting stuck with images of Bond villains and i think that's what he's up to in You Only live Twice isn't it? then having the story nicked for tHe Spy Who Loved me and transfered to being submarines.

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 14:35 (three years ago) link

(Tbc Stevo I wasn't referring to your post – in case there was any doubt.)

pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link

And, in any case, Blofeld is named after Henry Blofeld's father.

Waterloo Subset (Tom D.), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

New thread is “It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021, thanks Raymond.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:54 (three years ago) link


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