“It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021

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Everything's Blue In This Whorl (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:31 (one month ago) link

Good morning!

I'm tired of reading about the rioters but this made me laugh: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/us/capitol-rioters-non-voters-invs/index.html

Lang's attorney also said the 25-year-old was a "naive, impressionable young man" who had been provoked by Trump's rhetoric. He cited Senator Mitch McConnell's statement that "the mob was fed lies" and said he hoped that Lang and others would not be considered guilty "due solely to their associations, beliefs and presence."

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:38 (one month ago) link

I mean, possibly I'm mistaken but I think "presence" is the #1 reason why yr boy got arrested, Esq.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:39 (one month ago) link

Who among us hasn't tried to take over the US Capitol

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:40 (one month ago) link

It's unamerican to not want to overthrow the govt surely

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 14:49 (one month ago) link

Thirsty tree and whatnot

Copybara / pasteybara (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:50 (one month ago) link

I am sure there are going to be a couple 1/6 yahoos who are going to fight the charges on some dopey 1st Am or other grounds, but the vast majority of these idiots are going to start pleading guilty soon (90% on avg) and those who don't (2% on avg) are going to get convicted (83% on avg).

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/06/11/only-2-of-federal-criminal-defendants-go-to-trial-and-most-who-do-are-found-guilty/

Rocky Thee Stallion (PBKR), Monday, 1 February 2021 14:58 (one month ago) link

I hope I will not be considered guilty of this bank robbery due solely to having broken into a bank and stolen all their money. I mean come on now.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:04 (one month ago) link

surely I should be rewarded for driving people away from the scene of a crime

rob, Monday, 1 February 2021 15:16 (one month ago) link

My attempt to kidnap a sitting Senator was performance art, how is it different than a David Allen Coe song or an Oliver Stone movie

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:17 (one month ago) link

lol

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:33 (one month ago) link

She hasn't spoken with her parents, who are Biden supporters, since the election. They see her as a QAnon conspiracy theorist, she said, but she thinks of herself as a skeptic who does her own research

"As my husband said, it's just become the party of mean people," said Jo Swanson, 73, a retired school psychologist in Denver. She voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 but didn't register as a Democrat until this month. She had always considered herself more socially liberal, but her anti-abortion rights beliefs had held her back.

"I really found that hard to let go," she said, adding that she will still fight for abortion restrictions.

Jo OTM re: the Republican Party, OffTM re: abortion

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:34 (one month ago) link

I love that -- "does her own research."

So how is a rioter not guilty because he was "provoked by Trump's rhetoric," when the argument from Trump supporters is that Trump said nothing that directly incited the crowd?

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:37 (one month ago) link

xp
the popularity/actual meaning of that phrase is a pedagogical & media literacy nightmare

rob, Monday, 1 February 2021 15:37 (one month ago) link

otm

pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 15:38 (one month ago) link

I found this equally interesting and dismaying: https://datasociety.net/library/searching-for-alternative-facts/

rob, Monday, 1 February 2021 15:40 (one month ago) link

"I was completely shocked and ashamed. That's not how I think of the Republicans — who we were, and who we are," he said.

no it's totally who you are and have been

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:40 (one month ago) link

I hate that the mere existence of the internet gives folks like that clear and free license to say they "do their own research" with a straight face. But I suppose that was probably a mantra of the flat earth people forty years ago too.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:42 (one month ago) link

"with all due respect your honor, before you sentence me you should do your own research"

fbclid=fhAZ3l (f. hazel), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:46 (one month ago) link

From that New Yorker article about the Capitol insurrectionists:

Not long after the Brooks tweet, I got a call from a woman I’d met at previous Stop the Steal rallies. She had been unable to come to D.C., owing to a recent surgery. She asked if I could tell her what I’d seen, and if the stories about Antifa were accurate. She was upset—she did not believe that “Trump people” could have done what the media were alleging. Before I responded, she put me on speakerphone. I could hear other people in the room. We spoke for a while, and it was plain that they desperately wanted to know the truth. I did my best to convey it to them as I understood it.

Less than an hour after we got off the phone, the woman texted me a screenshot of a CNN broadcast with a news bulletin that read, “antifa has taken responsiblitly for storming capital hill.” The image, which had been circulating on social media, was crudely Photoshopped (and poorly spelled). “Thought you might want to see this,” she wrote.

jaymc, Monday, 1 February 2021 15:47 (one month ago) link

can we please stop interviewing these fucking idiots

frogbs, Monday, 1 February 2021 15:49 (one month ago) link

I believe the popular usage of 'research' pretty much just means 'google search'.

Vladislav Bibidonurtmi (Old Lunch), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:52 (one month ago) link

more likely it's watching these YouTube videos that were algorithmically recommended to me because of my scholarly interests

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 1 February 2021 15:58 (one month ago) link

Yup, I used to do this. I'd also chew up a couple of YouTube videos and use the resulting paste as the core of my belief system

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:02 (one month ago) link

lmao

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:26 (one month ago) link

The focus is only on two or three people here, but much more common, I'd guess:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/us/capitol-rioters-non-voters-invs/index.html

clemenza, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:29 (one month ago) link

2/ Minutes after huddling w/Proud Boys leader BIGGS, SAMSEL is pushing & pulling at barricades. Others join in, causing an officer to fall and hit her head.

He picks her up & says (per officer's account):

"we don't have to hurt you, why are you standing in our way?" pic.twitter.com/lNrue1lLnG

— John Scott-Railton (@jsrailton) February 1, 2021

We don't have to hurt you, why are you standing in our way?

peace, man, Monday, 1 February 2021 16:32 (one month ago) link

Don't wanna wait til tomorrow,
Why put it off another day?
We don't have to hurt you,
Why are you standing in our way?

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 16:40 (one month ago) link

The CEOs/founders of Robinhood made exactly the same political contributions on exactly the same days. $2,800 to Maxine Waters & Robert McHenry & $1,200 to the leadership PACs of both.

Waters & McHenry are the chair & ranking member of the House Financial Services Committee. pic.twitter.com/dgkhxQLsD9

— Jon Schwarz (@schwarz) January 30, 2021

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 1 February 2021 17:38 (one month ago) link

I'm intrigued. If you had a money source that was out to make you look bad could you reject the donation they sent you at the time they sent it or would you need to filter out who had donated to you and return it?

JUst wondering what that process is, if one would be checking through who had donated and ok it as the money was given.

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 18:12 (one month ago) link

Didn't something like that just happen when former Senator Barbara Boxer sent a donation to the Biden inauguration committee?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Biden-to-return-donation-from-ex-California-Sen-15865366.php

Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 1 February 2021 18:15 (one month ago) link

Jared nominated for a Nobel Peace prize?
Wow bizarro world Rex
I just finally caught the 3rd episode of How To last night where they were talking about signs one had skipped universes, like.

Stevolende, Monday, 1 February 2021 18:43 (one month ago) link

"There were 318 candidates for the 2020 Nobel Peace Prize (211 individuals and 107 organizations), which is the fourth largest number in the history of the prize"

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:46 (one month ago) link

Half of them are probably Jared and Trump. Is there even a filing fee to nominate someone?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 1 February 2021 18:51 (one month ago) link

I would like there to be a Nobel Pieces prize where winners are hacked apart and their pieces fed to an alligator.

Too many nominees this year though

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:51 (one month ago) link

That pieces doesn’t make a good case that Porter was being “silenced” by Waters.

“Big” Don Abernathy, Monday, 1 February 2021 19:15 (one month ago) link

Oh lookit

Wrong Screamed Barney (Neanderthal), Monday, 1 February 2021 19:20 (one month ago) link

"I would like there to be a Nobel Pieces prize where winners are hacked apart and their pieces fed to an alligator."

The Teaches of Pieces.

nickn, Monday, 1 February 2021 19:46 (one month ago) link

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/01/chuch-schumer-aoc-senate-464255

“It’s exciting to see how much action Schumer is currently taking,” said Saikat Chakrabarti, Ocasio-Cortez’s former chief of staff. “And I hope that progressives continue pressuring him, threatening a potential primary.”

With Schumer at the helm of the Senate, the prospect of a left-wing challenge next year stands to play a major role in shaping the legislation that comes out of Washington. That applies whether or not Ocasio-Cortez pulls the trigger, at least for the next few months.

The two-term congresswoman is seriously considering campaigning for the seat but is so far undecided, according to people familiar with her thinking. Multiple sources said her decision will be contingent on how Schumer wields power with his new Democratic majority in the upcoming months: Will he be pushed around by Mitch McConnell? Or will he work to pass ambitious, progressive legislation favored by the left?

“It’s dependent on what Schumer does,” said Waleed Shahid, communications director for Justice Democrats, the left-wing group that recruited Ocasio-Cortez to run for Congress, referring to a challenge by her or another progressive candidate. “Schumer will have to explain every one of his decisions to one of the most progressive primary electorates in the country, and if voters think he’s capitulating to Mitch McConnell and not organizing his caucus to deliver for working families, then he’s going to be in some trouble.”

👍🏻

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 1 February 2021 19:53 (one month ago) link

I wish the media would stop reporting on Nobel "nominations."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/01/you-too-can-become-nobel-peace-prize-nominee/

As it turns out, while a Nobel Peace Prize nomination is a bit trickier than simply sending a guy in Norway a postcard with someone’s name on it, it’s not much trickier than that. A nomination is, in essence, as serious as the person doing the submitting — who is a member of a not particularly rarefied group of people.

...

Where can one find an acceptable nominator? Well, the Nobel committee has a list explaining who can do so. It includes such elite individuals as members of the International Court of Justice in The Hague and those who have themselves been recipients of the prize.

It also includes “members of national assemblies and national governments of sovereign states” and “university professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion.” Among others.

In other words, a nomination for the prize is legitimate if, say, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), who is a member of the United States’ national assembly, sends a letter of nomination to the committee. A nomination is legitimate if you get the associate professor of history at Your Town State University to send a similar letter.

jaymc, Monday, 1 February 2021 19:55 (one month ago) link

What is unclear to me from the sources used in that article is whether Waters was objecting because she didn't like what Porter was doing or if it was because of a procedural issue she is meant to enforce as head of the committee. I don't believe Waters herself has a reputation for being for banks and against consumers but I'm not super familiar with her record beyond her presence during the Rodney King riots and asking for an investigation into whether the CIA pushed crack into the inner city.

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 19:58 (one month ago) link

I do know that, as a Black American, I'm immediately suspicious of any article that accuses a longstanding Black congressperson whose record has largely been defined by standing up for their community of impeding a good White congressperson who's just trying to give these ungrateful people the help their so-called "leaders" have been withholding

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 20:01 (one month ago) link

I am even more suspicious when I click through on the byline and the article is written by a White man

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 1 February 2021 20:02 (one month ago) link

it's one of those die on one's feet vs. living on one's knees, but it's not like the Democrats will literally die, they will just get jobs with corporations or large universities or something.

sarahell, Sunday, 28 February 2021 18:36 (three days ago) link

it’s hard for me to separate the strategic question of ‘should biden get kamala to ignore the parliamentarian and force the senate vote and risk having sinema and manchin (and possibly others) sink the bill in order to get $15 in through reconciliation using the leverage of the covid relief bill’ from the question of what’s in the hearts of dem leaders. like maybe they really hate 15$ and even though it’s hugely popular they genuinely don’t want to pass it. or maybe they’re risk averse and don’t want a big fight right off the bat that could empower manchin

flopson, Sunday, 28 February 2021 18:43 (three days ago) link

xxxxp - the Arizona ballot measure from 2016 that has gotten their minimum wage above $12 won 58% of the vote

A WV poll on $15 found 63% in favor but it was from a fair wage group so ???

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 18:45 (three days ago) link

We're still only a month into Biden's presidency. The idea that he and the Democratic Party have failed, or demonstrated obvious rank incompetence, just because they haven't been able to get a minimum wage hike into an omnibus COVID relief bill seems premature.

Some people seem so eager to point to any road bumps as proof that their pessimistic predictions were correct, rather than momentary disappointments on a longer path of progress.

Also, I get that focusing on structural barriers can sometimes ignore the fact that party leaders have agency and can exert political will. But focusing so much on their individual failures and weaknesses too often ignores the genuinely difficult situational realities that have hemmed them in.

jaymc, Sunday, 28 February 2021 18:50 (three days ago) link

Who on this board wasn't disappointed that Biden became the democratic nominee? Who?

Dan S

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 18:53 (three days ago) link

I don’t think there is a situational reality keeping the most powerful man on the planet who just won the most votes in history from going on TV and demanding $15 an hour.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 18:57 (three days ago) link

Any “political math” being done is explicitly to keep donor class from getting itchy

No kidding. The donor class is a fairly big part of the political math in our dumb corrupt system. Which is why we again/still/always need campaign reform and ideally get Citizens United overturned or reined in.

I don’t know if you guys have noticed this, but lots of things that pole well — like universal healthcare — don’t actually get enacted. And the only way to try to get them enacted is to go thru this dumb corrupt system. At least unless/until we can make it less dumb and corrupt. But nothing about a corporate Democrat president and 50 votes in the Senate makes a massive overhaul of our system likely in the short term. So if you want to pass a minimum wage increase in 2021, you have to deal with the system we have.

pole well, poll well

I don’t think there is a situational reality keeping the most powerful man on the planet who just won the most votes in history from going on TV and demanding $15 an hour.

― Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, February 28, 2021 12:57 PM (thirty-nine seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sure, I guess he could do that. And I'd be happy to see him do so. But I'm not convinced that that alone would persuade Joe Manchin to vote any differently.

jaymc, Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:01 (three days ago) link

It might if he said 'and Joe Manchin doesn't think you deserve $15/hr'

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:02 (three days ago) link

Maybe not, but the acquiescence is more than half the problem. If you’re not going to put Manchin or whomever on the spot on an overwhelmingly popular campaign promise, when? Is all that political capital dedicated to getting Neera Tanden a job?

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:03 (three days ago) link

it doesn't require a whole lot of effort ... like, as the president of the US, he doesn't have to do much to convince the news media to pay attention to him. Maybe he can pose with the dog or something while saying it. People like dogs.

sarahell, Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:05 (three days ago) link

Once again, I would encourage all of you to pick up the phone Monday morning to yell at your Senators to "pass the fucking bill already and oh by the way $15 minimum wage asshole", rather than making the same arguments on here forever.

Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:16 (three days ago) link

PS abolish the filibuster

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:17 (three days ago) link

I would add, of course be polite to the underpaid and overworked staff person taking the call, but firm.

Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:17 (three days ago) link

I've tried to figure out the biggest difference between milo's position and those here he argues against most vehemently. afaics, we all agree on the following:

  • a $15/hr. minimum wage should be among the highest policy goals for the Biden administration
  • even this would barely begin to make up the amount of ground necessary to address the problem of workers living in abject poverty
  • the prospects of passing a $15/hr. minimum wage in the next few months seem quite dim
  • passing a much lower minimum wage than $15/hr, as a compromise would be even more drastically inadequate
  • even that much may be stymied
  • the root of this political impasse is that all 50 Democratic senators must commit to doing whatever it takes to get a $15/hr wage passed, even if it means ending the filibuster, but there is no unanimity among the 50 senators to do this
Thus far, I think we all see exactly the same facts. Where milo and some of us part company is evaluating the actions and motives of President Biden and the elected Democrats in Congress. milo insists that if a $15/hr minimum wage is not accomplished at once we must see this as prima facie evidence that the party leadership is corrupt, callous, incompetent, and mendacious and obviously have been lying to us all along, but we are just too blind or complacent to see it.

He will not stop until we all agree in full with this assessment of the party in full and consign them all to hell. This alone will satisfy him. Any deviation from this view, or hint or suggestion of a different assessment he will combat with all his might. Once he has achieved this, the next step will be, um, organizing the masses to withhold their votes from democratic candidiates. He's still working on what steps would follow that.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:25 (three days ago) link

I have yet to demand anyone do anything but go off bro.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:31 (three days ago) link

milo demands that you go off bro

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:34 (three days ago) link

Once again, I would encourage all of you to pick up the phone Monday morning to yell at your Senators to "pass the fucking bill already and oh by the way $15 minimum wage asshole", rather than making the same arguments on here forever.

my two senators and Sen. Sanders introduced a $15 minimum wage bill, indexed to median wage growth thereafter, in April 2017

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:41 (three days ago) link

wait

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:41 (three days ago) link

my two senators and Sen. Sanders introduced a $15 minimum wage bill, indexed to median wage growth thereafter, in April 2017, but go off bro

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:41 (three days ago) link

I'm not going to touch Aimless's final paragraph, but I agree with the rest.

jaymc, Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:43 (three days ago) link

let me introduce you to "my two senators" *rolls up sleeves and flexes*

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:44 (three days ago) link

my two senators and Sen. Sanders introduced a $15 minimum wage bill, _indexed to median wage growth_ thereafter, in April 2017, but go off bro


Great! Yell at them for DC statehood then!

Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:46 (three days ago) link

Calling Ted Cruz is even more pointless than posting.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:50 (three days ago) link

im not sure if the politics of its passage will improve but one thing about 15$ that’s unlike the rest of covid relief is you can pass the exact same bill with same timeline of phase-ins later and it will have exactly the same effect

flopson, Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:50 (three days ago) link

if you have two things, each without a point, can one lack a point more than the other?

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:02 (three days ago) link

sit beside the breakfast table
post about your troubles

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:06 (three days ago) link

"I have yet to demand anyone do anything but go off bro."

Lol I never demanded my roommate clean the house, I just poked my head into to his room every 10 minutes to go on a rant about how dirty the house is and how stupid it is that he hasn't cleaned it

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:09 (three days ago) link

My two Trumpsters would definitely get a giggle out of anyone demanding a minimum wage increase of any kind. (And they will pay no political price at all for opposing it.) But I agree that calling offices is good.

Lol I never demanded my roommate clean the house, I just poked my head into to his room every 10 minutes to go on a rant about how dirty the house is and how stupid it is that he hasn't cleaned it

If your roommate started talking about how dirt is simply the way of the world, unavoidable and the system makes it impossible for a real deep cleaning to happen you might disagree, no?

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:17 (three days ago) link

Stay focused, Milo. My post was referring to you saying you made no demands on ppl, not about other ppl's posts about Democrats. You do this often: grasp onto an aspect of someone's post to make an unrelated jab at Dems or how you think ILX views Dems for the bazillionth time.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:22 (three days ago) link

Unlike Some People in this thread who think that puppy-kicking is perfectly acceptable (if not downright enjoyable), I would like to strongly reiterate my unwavering anti-puppy-kicking stance.

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:31 (three days ago) link

oh so OL is all for kicking kittens??! I'm procat myself but go off bro

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:52 (three days ago) link

. My post was referring to you saying you made no demands on ppl, not about other ppl's posts about Democrats.

"Other ppl's posts about Democrats" are what I'm responding to, though. I have never asked anyone to do anything - when you start talking about how the campaign promise was never actually real, I'm going to take issue with that though, or with the idea that it is impossible for the most powerful people in the world to act because of outside forces hemming them in.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 21:21 (three days ago) link

Likewise I've never asked the roommate to clean the house

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 February 2021 21:52 (three days ago) link

I've never asked you to change your hairstyle to suit me, darlin. I've just commented nonstop on how ugly I find it.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 February 2021 21:54 (three days ago) link

_Lol I never demanded my roommate clean the house, I just poked my head into to his room every 10 minutes to go on a rant about how dirty the house is and how stupid it is that he hasn't cleaned it_


If your roommate started talking about how dirt is simply the way of the world, unavoidable and the system makes it impossible for a real deep cleaning to happen you might disagree, no?


That’s my philosophy about cleaning my a condo.

Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 February 2021 22:50 (three days ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/TLbOOdk.jpg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:05 (three days ago) link

Faek noos

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:07 (three days ago) link

she's standing in front of the eye in balls

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:32 (three days ago) link

so have I at some point in my life

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:48 (three days ago) link

New entire website description

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:52 (three days ago) link

CPAC straw poll results just a ranking of how much you owned the libs by killing senior citizens.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 1 March 2021 05:38 (two days ago) link

where does the white couch fit into all this

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Monday, 1 March 2021 05:39 (two days ago) link

Well, this is unexpected:

President Biden gave Amazon warehouse staff in Alabama fighting to join a union their biggest support yet, tweeting a video Sunday night saying workers should be able to make their decision in the election without pressure from the company.

More than 5,800 workers at an Amazon warehouse in Bessemer, Ala., are in the middle of a seven-week voting period to determine whether they want the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union to represent them. Although Biden didn’t name Amazon in the video, he made it clear that he supports the union drive.

“Today and over the next few days and weeks, workers in Alabama, and all across America, are voting on whether to organize a union in their workplace,” Biden said.

Nominal, of course, but not the course of action I'd have expected from this corporatist.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 March 2021 10:51 (two days ago) link

I'm reminded again of teh quote about how its better to pick the administration that you would rather fight rather than the one that would be ideal. Since its inevitably going to be somewhat different to your idea of how things should be done and opinions will differ between you as member of the public/radical and member of the administration/gatekeeper. Also that there will be protocols and red tape that one would have to negotiate to get things done and not added to where possible. ( actually now seeing how that gets confused into somebody from outside DC seeing all legislation as being discardable arbitrarily and contrasts with some red tape actually protecting elements of society that need protecting, but probably need better worded legislation.)

Stevolende, Monday, 1 March 2021 11:17 (two days ago) link

Close thread, mods?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 March 2021 14:49 (two days ago) link

I'll lock it after there's a March thread I can link to.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Monday, 1 March 2021 14:59 (two days ago) link


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