Star Wars: The Mandalorian

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Hell with it, let's do a separate thread. Final trailer now live:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmI7WKrAtqs

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

I hope Werner's paycheck can cover a couple of new docs

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link

I've no doubt.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 02:10 (four years ago) link

the only way I'll pirate this is if the Herzog vs other actors' dialogue ratio is the same as in the trailers

Simon H., Tuesday, 29 October 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link

Pew. Pew pew.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

Cant wait for The Bobo Fat Show starring Bobo Fat

Eldridge Borgnine (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 11:52 (four years ago) link

So they always freeze their prey in carbonite?

Also, "best in the parsec"?

This looks cool, but it's a perpetual annoyance that every new Star Wars release has to take these little details from the original movies and reframe them as if they were always meant to be canonical elements of this world.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link

Hey, why bother with world building if you're not going to show off the world you've built?

I hope there is an Ewok Assassin Squad in this.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 12:47 (four years ago) link

Moodles otm. Every moment where like a character says 'stop being so SALACIOUS, you CRUMB' and then turns to look directly at the camera while winking furiously and saying 'DO YOU GET IT, GUYS? DID YOU PICK UP ON THAT REFERENCE? ISN'T IT A HILARIOUS CALLBACK?' makes me retch.

Eldridge Borgnine (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link

meh, Herzog's only in one episode

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

the trailer is baller tho

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

Except maybe for parts of SOLO I haven't found the Disney-era fanservice to be all that winky and egregious? But I am a true SW stan and not to be trusted tbrr

My wife and I did the three-years prepaid Disney+ plan for the 20% savings, that's how ready I am for this.

Star Wars IX will be my last SW

may the Farce be with you

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

Which one was the last one? Is this new one the 9th one? I'm pretty comfortable being done. I don't think my wife has even seen the original trilogy, and my kids don't give a poop.

Whenever I see this thread (and the show title) my first reaction is always that it's an announcement for a Star Wars themed casino/resort. Which ... give it time, I guess.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

The resort part is already happening

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

I was gonna say....

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

Dunno if I'll watch it, but it's kind of amazing that TV shows look like this now.

jmm, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

I meant like Vegas-style, not Disney style. Or is there a Vegas Star Wars resort opening, too?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

I agree with Moodles that this should ideally be a musical, set in 1920s Chicago, and if possible called Chicago the Musical: a Star Wars Story.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

That's exactly what I was saying

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

Start the speeder
I know a yubnub spot
Where the milk is blue
Cause Tatooine is hot
Bring a droid, you're a fool
And there's a nightly duel
And all
That
Jizz

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

xpost Except way, way gayer.

They really just need to keep piling on the gay until the toxic fans all collapse from rage strokes.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

You didn't need the xpost there, really.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

I realized as soon as I xposted.

Feed Me Wheat Thins (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

I was born with stars in my eyes, watching the skies, asking myself why was I born with these feeeeeeeelings?
Dreams of death stars, outer space wars, battles that would leave you reeeeeeeeeling.
One of these days I will be one of them, one of these days I'll be outgunning them ...
One of these days I'll be outmanning them, every last one-man of them, again and again, you can't force me to stop when the heavens they have no clear ceeeeeeeeiling ....

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

The usual io9 breakdown of these things, ie trailers.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 02:12 (four years ago) link

Every moment where like a character says 'stop being so SALACIOUS, you CRUMB'

real life lol

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 30 October 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

are they putting out the whole series on Nov 12 Netflix style or is it coming out week by week Hulu style?

akm, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

Week by week

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

URL pretty much gives it all away, no reason to even click.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

Do you watch any television?

I do, I watch the news from different sources. Sometimes I see things that are completely against my cultural nature. I was raised with Latin and Ancient Greek and poetry from Greek antiquity, but sometimes, just to see the world I live in, I watch “WrestleMania.”

An unexpected choice.

You have to know what a good amount of the population is watching. Do not underestimate the Kardashians. As vulgar as they may be, it doesn’t matter that much, but you have to find some sort of orientation. As I always say, the poet must not close his eyes, must not avert them.

So you’ve been watching “Keeping Up With the Kardashians?”

I’m starting to discover it. I’m curious; that’s my guiding principal.

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

In all seriousness, there are so many great quotes in that interview that cutting and pasting is pointless.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

Favreau has made some highly successful films recently; did you feel an element of pressure working with him?

I do not know what other films he has made.

You don’t?

No.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

Yeah, Herzog strikes me as an abyss-gazer, for sure.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

these things are only foreign to you if you let them be foreign

mh, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link

pretty sure underestimating the kardashians is a risk-free proposition, what a silly thing to convince yourself of. "It's important to keep tabs on what regular people are into", says the director of Fata Morgana

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

to confuse the mundane with the depraved is a common mistake

(I'm mumbling these in a Herzog impersonation voice as I type)

mh, Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

One must unflinchingly look into the dark heart of the culture to comprehend the behavior of the most debased among us.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Reminded of this old gem:

https://i.redd.it/e923cdvfu8yz.jpg

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYEQh9IkVXU

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Tuesday, 12 November 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

hits all kinds of genre conventions in a tight 40 minutes, excellent settings and costume work, would watch many more episodes

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

This was fun!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 00:38 (four years ago) link

someone in my group dm made a salient point. herzog's future obits now to read: "star wars actor werner herzog dies age 95"

-_- (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link

Imagine that : a Star Wars tv series that seems more attuned to what made the original films work than the current SW films do.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 00:45 (four years ago) link

The blurrg CGI was... not good.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link

Oh Jesus Christ they're going to sell a zillion dollars in toys of the big reveal.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 02:02 (four years ago) link

There were a couple of blurg shots that were off, true.

Getting some _Lone Wolf and Cub_ vibes off that ending.

It is good to know that Salacious Crumbs make excellent BBQ.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link

This was good! Surprisingly good! Some of the animation is a little wobbly and the music is overbearing but otherwise absolutely hitting the last streak of affection i have for this godforsaken universe. Would recommend.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 07:02 (four years ago) link

Also: Posehn!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 07:05 (four years ago) link

Looked cheap, badly acted, ropey dialogue. Really disappointed.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 09:50 (four years ago) link

The metal guy in the last sequence was good though (avoiding spoilers)

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link

why can't we have like a sitcom or a procedural or an inner city high school drama or really anything set in this universe besides Bounty Hunter Who Is Good At Shooting show

adam, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 12:27 (four years ago) link

tbf looks cheap, badly acted, ropey dialogue is pretty much a description of A New Hope

good editing and music, though

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link

a new hope looks great, wtf

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

I dunno, if remove the nostalgia blinders I can kinda see where he's coming from tbh

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGUqdV7UIAA5rvU.jpg

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

how dare u, those fire extinguisher droids have been beloved fan favourites for five decades now

Titanic was cliched Marxist crap. (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link

Mandalorian version of Too Old to Die Young I would watch.

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

I was glad to see a little trash can dude again. The "cheap" look compared to the fancier planets is definitely intentional.

the CGI on the blurg cowboy guy was pretty rough though

if they really want the old look how about some puppets and miniatures

maffew12, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

did I say looking cheap is bad? looking cheap is good imo

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link

let me see here..... it was Tsar

maffew12, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

As an adult male, watching a space fantasy on a children's streaming service, I thought this was enjoyable.

brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link

my baseline for evaluating it as a Lucasfilm television project is "is this better than The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles?"

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

Tsar Wars. Mostly big in Russia. The twist where it turns out Darth Rasputin had been Tsarevitch Alexeis father all along. Formative.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

going in with low expectations I was able to enjoy this as well.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

I'm psyched they let Dave Filoni direct the kickoff to their live action project

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

As an adult male, watching a space fantasy on a children's streaming service, I thought this was enjoyable.

― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, November 13, 2019 8:49 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not to call you out in particular, but my optic nerves are fit to snap from all the eye-rolling induced by this arms-length approach to so-called 'children's entertainment' errbody is engaged in of late. As if the bulk of so-called 'adult entertainment' isn't hot + steamy compost. If it isn't promoting hate or something, there's really no need to apologetically qualify one's enjoyment of a cultural object. IMVHO.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:22 (four years ago) link

it does weird me out when 100% of an adult's cultural interests are like, pixar movies and harry potter, though

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

throw some star war in there, buddy

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link

I assume the people you describe must exist but I don't know that I've personally encountered them. Not since like high school, at least.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

why can't we have like a sitcom or a procedural or an inner city high school drama or really anything set in this universe besides Bounty Hunter Who Is Good At Shooting show[

That'll be Ewan's Obi-Wan show. Wanders Tatooine and helps people out with their personal problems.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link

now that i can get into

adam, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

'Obi-Wan, those wamp rats are back in my attic again, if you wouldn't mind taking a look?'

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

Tidying Up with Obi-Wan Kenobi

jmm, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

This Old Moisture Farm

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

Special mention to the scoring in this, the music was excellent throughout, with a lot of departures from what's typically considered "Star Wars music."

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

Surprised, but not unpleasantly so, by prominent usage of 'Jingle Dogs' on the soundtrack.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

This was fun! And, let's be honest, I feel like they threw out the "life day" fan service bone in a way that wasn't nearly as cringe-worthy as it easily could have been.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

Gotta love a Star Wars show that stuffs in not only all the people we knew about, but Horatio Sanz and Brian Posehn.

And am I crazy or did they actually design that Ugnaught to look like Nick Nolte? OR WAS THAT NOT MAKEUP?

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

an inner city high school drama

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A68Ka8hiiI

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

They did, indeed, make the alien face look like his own face. I was impressed!

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

why can't we have like a sitcom or a procedural or an inner city high school drama or really anything set in this universe besides Bounty Hunter Who Is Good At Shooting show

Isn't this the case of 99.9% of fantasy and sci fi (whether TV, film or literature)? Is the next Game of Thrones book going to be a farmer's meditation on the emptiness he feels as his children move away to the city?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

loved nick nolgnaught, not looking forward to all my nerd friends ending all their drive thru orders with "I HAVE SPOKEN"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

lol

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

riding a blurrg through the drive thru

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

"three chalupas, a whopper and a large frosty"
"sir, this is a mcdonalds"
"I HAVE SPOKEN"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

I’m going to ride my skateboard over to my buddy’s house and watch this later

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link

That'll be Ewan's Obi-Wan show. Wanders Tatooine and helps people out with their personal problems.

Oh, just a reprise of David Carradine in the Kung Fu television series then.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPfPYVVNgVw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

I once blurrg'd at a drive thru

maffew12, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

I thought y'all had invented a jokey colloquialism for some SW creepy crawly but, no, no, it appears there actually is a thing called a 'blurrg'. Must've been 'no trying' week in the Mandalorian writers' room.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:18 (four years ago) link

n the Star Wars canon, blurrgs first appeared in "Liberty on Ryloth," an episode of the animated television series Star Wars: The Clone Wars that first aired in 2009. In the Star Wars Legends continuity, blurrgs first appeared in the 1985 television film Ewoks: The Battle for Endor.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

lol beat me to it

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

I am so embarrassed rn.

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

there's also a Life Day reference in The Mandalorian episode 1

mh, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

Awesome. So was the CGI reconstruction of Bea Arthur up to snuff?

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

too many tentacles sadly

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

carl weathers being a tightwad A+++

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

werner was kinda perfect too! as was waititi as the IG. all the casting was excellent.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

series of interesting set pieces + faceless bad/good guy with eccentric bushido code + near endless stream of creative creatures and weaponry and architecture + snappy inscrutable jargon delivered with total conviction + not taking any of this shit too seriously + this goes on basically forever with only minimal character growth and a general avoidance of too much backstory = all i really wanted out of a starwars teevee show

ep 1 here delivers on everything. if favreau and co can maintain at this level, this will be a fave of the year.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 19:40 (four years ago) link

Love the guy who summons landspeeder taxis with jazz flute :)

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

err...sorry..."jazz recorder".

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link

Very Prometheus, that.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link

i thought willy wonka but hey

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

also: delicious blue calamari flan
https://www.theringer.com/tv/2019/11/13/20962858/the-mandalorian-star-wars-currency-credits-calamari-flan

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/KRwff8U.jpg

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link

wouldn't it be a "jizz flute" in star wars parlance?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 13 November 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link

Check out jizz flautist Hammerhead's sexy new album entitled Nadon Momaw

Yul, Tied: A Celebration of Brynner in Bondage (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 13 November 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link

I like the bit where the flute guy goes to put it in his snout and misses, and tries again, and they kept it in the cut.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 14 November 2019 01:02 (four years ago) link

Well, they finally did it... they put a goddamn space toilet in Star Wars.

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Thursday, 14 November 2019 05:48 (four years ago) link

The blue guy seemed totally out of place; more Spaceballs than Star Wars. I liked the “I have spoken” guy, and the droid. So many elements from Tatooine on whatever planet he’s on for a while; it’s kind of confusing.

The final reveal was just enough to keep me watching...

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Thursday, 14 November 2019 06:21 (four years ago) link

Episode 2 was shit loads of fun

My 9 year old absolutely loved it

groovypanda, Friday, 15 November 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

It absolutely was. Watched it twice already.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 15 November 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

I loved the little homage to "Last Crusade" (incoming desert ledge while hanging off moving vehicle).

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 15 November 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link

Oh is Ep 2 out already? Thought it was weekly from the launch date. That's good news.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 November 2019 21:20 (four years ago) link

That whole sequence was very Indy xp

No spoilers yet though as lots probably haven't seen it

groovypanda, Friday, 15 November 2019 21:22 (four years ago) link

It's every Friday from now on.

Except for when Skywalker comes out when it'll be available on the Wednesday xp

groovypanda, Friday, 15 November 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link

Yeah, this is great.

Ned: good call on the Lone Wolf and Cub connection; Favreau definitely used the phrase "baby cart assassin" somewhere in his pitch.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link

I'm gonna count that as a spoiler, lol!

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Friday, 15 November 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

If you already watched the first ep it’s not much of one

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 15 November 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

Wasn't totally sold on episode 1, but i definitely settled into the vibe with this one

Enjoying the low-stakes, compact storytelling. Plus the baby is very cute

Number None, Friday, 15 November 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link

so are all of that species strong like that or...

mh, Saturday, 16 November 2019 04:26 (four years ago) link

Ned: good call on the Lone Wolf and Cub connection

Yeah did that hunch ever play out in this one. And presumably the rest but we'll see.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 November 2019 05:07 (four years ago) link

What the fuck is this, anyway

jaymc, Saturday, 16 November 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link

Ok, yeah, that was a good episode.

I like how it captures the languorous pace of the Tatooine scenes in the first and third movies (even though, ahem, it’s still not Tatooine).

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Saturday, 16 November 2019 06:19 (four years ago) link

The Egg! The Egg!

mh, Saturday, 16 November 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

I liked this episode a lot. It's always tricky to keep an audience watching when there are long stretches of no dialogue -- especially TV audiences -- so the pacing and action were well-handled.

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Saturday, 16 November 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

rocket sniping jawas or whatever that was, I coulda done without. But yeah good show so far

where are we then? Dantooine?

maffew12, Saturday, 16 November 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

Schmantooine, i think.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 16 November 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

some fantastic point missing in the Atlantic review which vacillates wildly from paragraph to paragraph in terms of calling pros cons and vice versa:
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/11/mandalorian-disney-review/601828

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 17 November 2019 12:58 (four years ago) link

Can't believe you all paid for Disney+, can't you see that's just what they want you to do

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link

i think you’ll find i actually torrented the first two episodes of this, thank you very much

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link

i feel so seen

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link

Oh great. That definitely means there will be a massive crackdown on torrenting immediately. Knowing Disney, I'm guessing the first move will be the easiest: shutting down karagarga...

Frederik B, Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

i think the tactic on this round of piracy is more likely to pretend its not happening. apple/disney's core audience is not ultra tech savvy and prosecuting loudly will only make people curious about downloading options; better to lose a few that likely weren't going to pay anyway rather than tempt a larger audience to explore the options. anyways, as per that vice article, the new "pirating" is using your mom's login

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

hmm maybe i should tell my mom about Disney plus. What mom stuff is there?

maffew12, Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

I’m an idiot who pays for an expensive verizon phone plan and got the service “free”

mh, Sunday, 17 November 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2019/11/15/why-are-we-getting-short-27-minute-episodes-of-the-mandalorian-on-disney-plus/#50c3703b6339

Disney Plus unleashed another episode of The Mandalorian today, its premium, live-action Star Wars show that is attracting good buzz and reviews from fans and critics alike. It will start premiering on Fridays for its eight episode, first season run, but if you go to play it today, you’ll notice something kind of strange.

It has a 32 minute runtime. That would be short as it is, and yet when you cut out the “previously on” scenes and four minutes of credits, the total runtime for today’s episode, The Child, is just 27 minutes.

I thought it was a little strange when the premiere episode said it was 40 minutes long, really just 36 minutes without credits. But 40 minutes is at least somewhat close to the 42-44 minutes you’d get in an hourlong network drama once you strip out commercials.

But today’s episode now has me and many other fans wondering if the entire series is going to be like this, if in addition to getting only eight episode for a season, if we’re going to be getting sub-30 minute episodes meaning the runtime of the entire first season is going to be something like 4-4.5 hours, at most.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

class action lawsuit time!

maffew12, Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:31 (four years ago) link

some Netflix show runtimes are all over the map. Never really thought about it.. the format is probably a plus for the creators who just want to take the time needed to tell chapters of the story with minimal padding?

Or is Netflix signing deals for x minutes of show?

maffew12, Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

Isn't The Good Place half an hour (well, 25 minutes)?

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

most stuff is too long, this is a good development*

FLAVORFUL ORIGINS is exactly the right length per ep

*may not apply to LA REINA DEL SUR

mark s, Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

on the other hand, lack of C plots is hurting an important sector of talent development? Hmmmm

maffew12, Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

Well, "Good Place" (or other network TV shows) is built around commercials in half-hour blocks. I suppose the argument that guy is making is that Disney is a pay service, and this Star Wars show is like the only top-tier new programming it has in that vein, so 8 potentially short episodes seems a little stingy and perhaps not enough to sustain a subscription service. (See: spike in torrents or whatever). Those other Marvel shows aren't due some time until some time in 2020, right? I mean, "apple/disney's core audience is not ultra tech savvy" is probably right, as a whole, but people subscribing just for this Star Wars show might not stick around or might find a workaround. Not that Disney is going to lose much of its base.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

I still think this service is priced fairly. Even if this new show is "only" 4.5 hours or whatever, that's still two movies' worth, and two movies for $10-$14 or however much is not bad, especially since Disney lets you cancel any time.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

pray they do not alter the deal

maffew12, Sunday, 17 November 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

ACHUTA!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 17 November 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link

dip dup

maffew12, Sunday, 17 November 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

One reason why they may be rolling it out episode by episode, instead of all at once, is to keep folks subscribing for a few months who signed up just to watch the show.

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Sunday, 17 November 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

The thing that bugs me the most about the show is how relentless it is about showing you comfortingly familiar elements. In the first ep., I couldn't believe it when he was startled by something jumping into his viewfinder, just like Luke and the Tusken Raider... we've seen this exact thing before!! (Even fighting the mudhorn ep. 2 – which I liked – echoed Attack of the Clones.)

A friend of mine who’s really into Star Wars (he watches the cartoons and reads the comics and stuff) reports, “All three Dave Filoni projects have now had a "the Empire is tracking down Jedi babies" plotline.” Guess there are clichés I didn’t even know I was missing!

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Sunday, 17 November 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

I mean, that's been nu-Star Wars's thing, right? "Remember this?"


xpost oh, they are totally going to hike prices after a year or so. Hulu's big price hike the other day came with no warning or even much of an explanation.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I just thought they were promoting this is the series where we would finally “see new things.” Guess we have to wait for the new movie trilogy for that!

(We signed up for the 3-yr deal to lock in the $6.99/mo. price, or whatever it worked out to be.)

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

I missed that deal. I have a good friend who was going to share his login information with me, but I considered that I have done so many sketchy things on the download and streaming front, this is the one thing my kids are really going to be paying attention to, I want my name and our account up there.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

Guess we have to wait for the new movie trilogy for that!

wasn't this already nixed

Simon H., Sunday, 17 November 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link

Uh, some of the torrenting will be a nation like me - I'd consider paying for this, but Disney+ isn't available in the UK until next Spring, so hoist the Jolly Roger and away!

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

The trilogy by the dinguses who made Game of Thrones is cancelled - the one by Rian Johnson is AFAIK still on.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 17 November 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

It is indeed still on.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 17 November 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link

FOR NOW

actor Robert de Niro disguised as an Uzbek homeopath (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 17 November 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

Perfect:

Spoilers for people who haven't watched yet! But I had to do this homage to Lone Wolf and Cub for obvious reasons 😁 ---#themandalorian #mandalorian #starwars #lonewolfandcub #samurai #western #art #illustration pic.twitter.com/2xsJnyCPDa

— AndrewSebastianKwan (@theAndrewKwan) November 18, 2019

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 November 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

lol, nice

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 18 November 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

hopefully they tip their hand fully and just start referring to baby yoda as "cub"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 18 November 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

If Pascal doesnt take his mask off all season I want my pirated money back.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 18 November 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link

Someone on Twitter theorized that the Mandalorian must ***POTENTIAL SPOILER***

be a woman; because that's what it always means when someone's face isn't shown in one of these things, it's like a rule.

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Monday, 18 November 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link

xpost U criminal

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 November 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link

heh.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 18 November 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

Hah, my 8-year old came home from school last week and said that he heard the Mandalorian was "really a girl".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 November 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcMoL-9ph2g

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 18 November 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link

playground sketchy rumors about Star Wars? omg my heart

mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 00:40 (four years ago) link

Me high looking at myself in the security camera at CVS pic.twitter.com/xfDALq7dmX

— eli (@eliyudin) November 18, 2019

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 00:59 (four years ago) link

So Boba Fett is going to have some kind of heartwarming journey with baby yoda and then ... get killed by Han Solo in the most humiliating way possible? I feel bad for the kids who are coming to this fresh.

lost IDM classics (lukas), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

it's not boba fett

Mordy, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link

this takes place years after Boba Fett is ostensibly dead

mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link

it's going to develop into a complex may/december love story between the 50-something year-old baby of yoda and the thirty-something child of boba fett
surely rule 34 already applies here somewhere (please do not link to examples)

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link

It’s his son, Fetty Wap

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/foJ3VMO.png

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

playground sketchy rumors about Star Wars? omg my heart

Haha, right? I was doubtful those conversations existed any longer!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

ohhhhhhhh

lost IDM classics (lukas), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link

How dare you not know everything about the franchise.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

My missus was getting all confused with the timeline of the movies when I was trying to tell her when this takes place. I told her she can look up a timeline on the web. She asked, there's that kind of stuff on the Internet?

maffew12, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:19 (four years ago) link

I...admire your wife's sincere unawareness of that.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

that is mostly what the internet is, I was heard to remark

she is a great time

maffew12, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

I really should give it a couple more decades at least before assuming that people just kinda know that stuff's out there somewhere, just in case.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link

The chronology of these various things can be a little confusing, even if you are paying relatively close attn.

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:27 (four years ago) link

i just assume everyone knows the Prioress' story and get frustrated when they confuser her with the Friar.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

https://www.gq.com/story/werner-herzog-baby-yoda

mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

my brain's fried and I forgot only twitter gets a preview

“I have seen it on the set. I’ve seen it on the set,” he began, before veering into a passionate elucidation of his feelings on the petite marionette. “And it’s heartbreaking! It’s heartbreakingly beautiful.”

He explained that he witnessed two technicians operating its various mechanisms—"one was for the eyes and the mouth and the other one was for other facial expressions"—and that it was "a phenomenal technological achievement but, beyond the technological achievement, it’s heartbreaking.”

When the interviewer asked him to elaborate on why exactly it was so heartbreaking, he shook his head wistfully and admitted that he didn’t know why it touched his soul so deeply. He hadn't even seen it onscreen yet. “It looked absolutely convincing,” he continued. “It made you cry when you saw it.”

mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

I just keep wondering who changes its diaper...

(They showed a space toilet, they opened the door to this.)

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

the back side of the force

maffew12, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

i was worried it wasn't eating anything or getting fluids. then it ate the frog.
still worried about it staying hydrated tho.

also – can Herzog be serious when he says he's never watched star wars?!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

yes

-_- (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link

does he strike you as a prevaricator?

mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

he has a weird sense of humour.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

a prevaricator

Isn’t that one of those creatures Luke fought in Jabba’s palace(?)

paris geller spinoff pitch (morrisp), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

a point for which I reserve a fair bit of rancor

mh, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

after herzog got shot DURING a filmed interview, i don't question anything he says

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

what

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

It was not significant.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrRNM9cMBDk

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDcnLfLaFiY

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

lol and

Me high looking at myself in the security camera at CVS pic.twitter.com/xfDALq7dmX

— eli (@eliyudin) November 18, 2019

alomar lines, Friday, 22 November 2019 06:42 (four years ago) link

oops ned 3days ago haha guess whos high rn

alomar lines, Friday, 22 November 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link

Haven't seen Ep 2 yet, but baby yoda didn't look more than a year old - so at a 50-1 human to yoda years ratio, actual yoda was a teenager when he was leaping around fighting count dooku, then he died a decrepit old man 6 months later.

The Pingularity (ledge), Friday, 22 November 2019 08:46 (four years ago) link

Yoda was born in 896 BBY... he’s 874 when he fights Dooku, and he’s 900 when he dies in ROTJ.

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link

Another way of looking at it is that 10 years of aging for Yoda’s species equals 1 human year; and so the baby in the show would be the equivalent of “5.” That’s a long infancy period... but I guess they needed to set up the reveal with a misdirection about the target’s age (and it wouldn’t have worked to say “10,” we’d still be expecting a child).

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 13:54 (four years ago) link

Another discrepancy is that Yoda had learned his skills and began training Jedi at age 100; so all things being equal, The Mandalorian baby has a lot of growing to do in the next 50 years.

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

My No-Prize attempt: that baby is a lazy asshole, and could totally be walking around and training like Yoda was at his age; it just likes being shuttled around.

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 14:18 (four years ago) link

I dunno, shuttling myself around on my mind beams sounds a little more tiring than walking

maffew12, Friday, 22 November 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

I think it’s some kind of hover-carriage (not mind beams)?

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link

who knows. all I know is that we were all Born After the Battle of Yavin. We are all BABY.

maffew12, Friday, 22 November 2019 14:29 (four years ago) link

You know, I had been assuming that “50 years old” was more or less an arbitrary number they chose, to set up the reveal; but considering the series takes place in 9 ABY (“Five years after the defeat of the Galactic Empire”), that would put the baby’s birth in 41 BBY... the same year another prominent character was born. 🤔

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

Was there a deleted scene in The Phantom Menace where Mace Windu asks, “What’s troubling you, Master Yoda?”; and Yoda snaps:

When 180 years of child-support payments you face, be cheerful you will not!

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link

Just watched Chapter 3 — it is excellent.

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

It is the way

mh, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

these guys have spoken.

maffew12, Friday, 22 November 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

Apparently it was also the first live-action Star Wars anything to be directed by a woman (Deborah Chow).

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Friday, 22 November 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

Not quite the same fun quotient as Episode 2 but indeed great and that set piece resolution towards the end was definitely a moment xps

groovypanda, Friday, 22 November 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link

So far my fave new The Star War stuff since Rebels and "Rouge" One. Literally feels like Favreau wants to write in as much "this is the kind of cool stuff 9 y.o. me imagined happening" material into each episode as possible and I'm down with it in a true "Okay Gen X-er" way. Having been 8 y.o. myself in '77.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 23 November 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link

seeing a whole-ass Mando squad in action like that is something a lot of fans have been waiting for for like 30 years

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Saturday, 23 November 2019 03:19 (four years ago) link

The final moment/fan-service gag was maybe a bit much... but NBD. It was of the best episodes of TV I’ve seen in a while (notwithstanding some shaky acting from a few folks).

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Saturday, 23 November 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link

I know this has been a joke since 1977, but — does Stormtrooper armor provide protection against a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g??

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Saturday, 23 November 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link

It protect’s the empire’s budget

mh, Saturday, 23 November 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

Wick-homage fob action?

mick signals, Saturday, 23 November 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link

I swear my autocorrect is on the fritz and I'm not just randomly putting apostrophes in things these days

mh, Saturday, 23 November 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

forgot to mention my deep appreciation to whoever on staff said, "Oh, we need a prop here? I have just the thing!" and went full fanservice. at least we know now why Willrow Hood was hauling ass to vacate Cloud City.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/b/bb/Willrow-hood.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20080518233740

wait, I didn't catch that. what was it?

akm, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

anyway this episode was awesome

akm, Sunday, 24 November 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

Some more prop nerdservice with the Companion Cubes from portal (sans heart stencils) sitting around everywhere

Dan I., Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:14 (four years ago) link

Oh oops I got it backwards, apparently companion cubes were designed after storage crates that have been in Star Wars since a new hope

Dan I., Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

I hope they finally got to have a big ice cream party

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link

So at 14 minutes right before the Mandalorian comes in to talk to Carl Weathers, Carl weathers dresses down some Alien and calls him a 'dust breather' and tells him to go away, and that alien says, quite clearly, "fuck you". I watched it 20 times. Tell me I'm not the only person who heard that.

akm, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

also carl weathers is fucking terrible in this.

akm, Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link

^agreed

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Sunday, 24 November 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link

I mean I would not call Carl weathers a Great Actor to begin with

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

Baby, you’ve got a stew going

FODMAP of the reef (morrisp), Sunday, 24 November 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

Not feeling this show.

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 24 November 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

Carl Weathers saying “Mando!” is a highlight and you’re all crazy

mh, Sunday, 24 November 2019 23:59 (four years ago) link

What he said.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 November 2019 03:49 (four years ago) link

Extensive interview with Göransson on the music:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-mandalorians-ludwig-goransson-on-scoring-what-felt-1840006928

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 November 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

This is fun!

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 26 November 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link

Enjoying this a bit more because I am still watching it for some reason, but the acting remains surprisingly bad. Significantly worse than Solo bad.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link

watching this with my kids and now glad to have "I Have Spoken" as a reasonably good-humoured way of shutting down backchat

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 01:01 (four years ago) link

bad acting and cheesy fx are what MAKE this a star wars show; i hope you don't go to Arby's for the ambience
third ep holding up

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 05:26 (four years ago) link

Yeah let’s not forget why we liked Star Wars in the first place - because it’s fun and silly and looks cool.

Amazing that a single piece of costume design has spun out into an entire TV series! This is ALL because a dude’s helmet looks cool!

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 06:51 (four years ago) link

don't forget the aborted action figure accessory.
http://www.jedinews.co.uk/collecting/articles/myths-rocket-firing-fett/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 07:23 (four years ago) link

boba straight-up packing a big red dildo on his back

http://www.jedinews.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/20cback.jpg

A victim managed to capture evidence of the gimp (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link

Guess it’s fitting that the dude fell into a belching vagina dentata.

Soy Bean False Chicken (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link

Let us not forget the Holiday Special and its animated feature, which this show borrows from heavily (!)

mh, Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:28 (four years ago) link

So Disney's got the first batch of baby Yoda merch (or "The Child" as they're calling it)... incredibly lazy. Like slap a screenshot on mugs and Cafe Press t-shirts lazy.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 November 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/7wxFBOo.png

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 November 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link

well it's big universe out there and i guess they had to end up on a Stargate SG-1 type planet eventually

umsworth (emsworth), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

I was thinking more Seven Samurai meets ST: TNG first season, but hey. Still great though.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 November 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link

yeah it was still fun. and watching with the younger ones i'm very conscious that this isn't the 78th time they've seen that plot rehashed, and that it still works.

umsworth (emsworth), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link

eyeball-on-a-stick security robot popping out of the front door at herzog's house was so deeply enjoyable; one of those tiny crumbs of nostalgia i had no idea remained to be mined

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 November 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

I like the idea it's the Nest of Star Wars. Or whatever those security setups are called.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 November 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

Anyone else remember when the Wookiepedia was available as a massive downloadable Access database file?

nate woolls, Friday, 29 November 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link

apparently still is? am i doing this right?
https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Database_download
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Statistics

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 29 November 2019 23:44 (four years ago) link

So now Ron Howard and Bryce Dallas Howard have both directed a Star War. I'm sure the episode directors are on a fairly short leash but nonetheless this one was well done considering it had a lot more personal interaction. I always love to see Gina Carano.

The action stuff was well-handled too. Treating the AT-ST as practically a living monster was a good choice.

There's definitely a weird effect going on now where I'm certainly looking forward to Rise of Skywalker but more heavily anticipate new Mandalorian episodes. I keep feeling like how this is this weird time for the franchise where it's almost like we're saying farewell to the movies (for three years at least) and more shifting to this approach, and the movies themselves almost become advertisements for the streaming service. (See also Marvel of course.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 30 November 2019 02:36 (four years ago) link

My No-Prize attempt: that baby is a lazy asshole, and could totally be walking around and training like Yoda was at his age; it just likes being shuttled around.

I nailed it! LOL

well it's big universe out there and i guess they had to end up on a Stargate SG-1 type planet eventually

― umsworth (emsworth), Friday, November 29, 2019 2:06 PM

I was thinking more Seven Samurai meets ST: TNG first season, but hey. Still great though.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, November 29, 2019 2:26 PM

That’s funny, I got a strong Hercules / Xena vibe... whatever flavor you choose, this ep. totally had the look & feel of a syndicated ’90s action-fantasy show. Wish the production values were juuuuust a bit higher; but still enjoying it.

It cracks me up how they keep calling B-Yodes “the kid” (and when the “beautiful widow” says something like, “Won’t you stay here with your boy?”) — as if he’s Mando’s actual, human child.

Nice to see Pillboi from The Good Place see some action, too...

Soy Bean False Chicken (morrisp), Saturday, 30 November 2019 06:13 (four years ago) link

That’s funny, I got a strong Hercules / Xena vibe...

bingo

I hated this episode

Number None, Saturday, 30 November 2019 08:51 (four years ago) link

Loved the baby in this one - how could you not ? - but totally felt like a '90s WB Television series with just a taaaad too much cutesy stuff. Waitress/restaurant owner was also a little too -- I dunno -- New Yawk and took me right out of that scene. Really weird jarring tonal stuff in the acting and dialogue these first few eps.
And some of the kid actors were "stop lookin' at the camera!" bad lol.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 November 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link

The waitress was totally “off” (like the blue guy in the first episode). I don’t know what it is that makes a performance feel “not Star Wars-y,” but some of these sure have it.

OTOH, “Cara Dune” is an excellent Star Wars Name.

One other detail I thought was funny was how the mother in the village spoke to her 6(?)-yr-old daughter like she was a toddler (“This good man will help save us from the bad ones!”).

Soy Bean False Chicken (morrisp), Saturday, 30 November 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

Waitress/restaurant owner was also a little too -- I dunno -- New Yawk and took me right out of that scene. Really weird jarring tonal stuff in the acting and dialogue these first few eps.

I consider this kind of stuff part and parcel of what you sometimes get from Star Wars. Episode II has a waitress robot that says, in a straight Laverne Difazio Bronx accent, "You wanna cuppa Jawa Juice?"

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/a/a4/Off_she_rolls.png/revision/latest?cb=20180204100457

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Saturday, 30 November 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

This last episode was some next level cheese. Felt embarrassed for putting it on in front of people who haven’t seen any of the show yet. I mean this isn’t high level stuff in the first place, but OTM to the Xena/Hercules comparisons. Some minimum effort TV writing.

circa1916, Saturday, 30 November 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link

xpost Yeeesh. Don't remind me lol

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 30 November 2019 17:52 (four years ago) link

This one felt like an A-Team episode

joygoat, Saturday, 30 November 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

having a “teaching a peasant village how to defend themselves” episode seems really on theme for the show imo

trying real hard on the samurai/western vibes. felt the family/kid stuff was a little flat but it’s a fine line between pulling that off and complete pandering

mh, Saturday, 30 November 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

at least there was no kid going “shucks, mister mandalorian. do you think we’re gonna make it? i’m scared!”

mh, Saturday, 30 November 2019 21:28 (four years ago) link

Came here to name check A Team!

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 30 November 2019 22:45 (four years ago) link

are you kidding me pic.twitter.com/occtAetXqs

— Glitter 🦦 (@xoGlitterTV) December 1, 2019

Soy Bean False Chicken (morrisp), Sunday, 1 December 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

i am looking forward to future Kurosawa inspired episodes of the Mandalorian, including Favreau's take on Ikiru

this was by far the weakest of the bunch but it was still a lot of fun

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 1 December 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

It was a weaker plot and the directing was super-sharp last episode

mh, Monday, 2 December 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link

bebe Yoda is basically Gizmo hairless?

https://gremlins.fandom.com/wiki/Gizmo

| (Latham Green), Monday, 2 December 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link

this episode was rubbish, ugh. get on with it.

akm, Monday, 2 December 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

Otm with the comparisons to early '90s SFF TV shows, but it was still fun. Liked the shot of the red eyed AT-ST creeping through the forest at night.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 December 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

The early 90s SF TV show vibe made me nostalgic a bit, but overall this one was the first that kind of disappointed me. I was expecting the AT-ST thing to lead to something bigger, but nope, this group of raiders somehow got their hands on a functioning AT-ST worth probably billions of imperial credits (or whatever currency is now used) without any kind of explanation. It was blown up and now we move on to the next planet.

I am totally digging the western/samurai vibes of this series though.

silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:21 (four years ago) link

I would imagine a lot of Imperial outposts were quickly abandoned, and a lot of heavy machinery left behind

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

there's never been a black market or kleptocracy for weapons after a government collapse

;)

mh, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link

Liked the shot of the red eyed AT-ST creeping through the forest at night.

Thought it was funny that by not showing its occupants (if any) they seemed to imply the AT-ST was alive or maybe automated damn since the Empire fell how many people lost their job to this

nashwan, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

I am totally digging the western/samurai vibes of this series though.

Is this like the movie nerd equivalent of "It's a magazine not a clip!" https://t.co/1HMybXLqP3

— Social-Democratic Party of Galar (@weedlewobble) December 2, 2019

Peloton-gifting husband (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link

i mean they literally did the seven samurai spear training sequence with the villagers

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

so did they not explain what was up with that one villager who clearly knew how to shoot

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link

There are episodes, friend

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

http://https%3A//images.brickset.com/news/75267-LEGO-Mandalorian-Battle-Pack_4.jpg

Are you all aware of the little Lego Mando club that's coming to a shop near you just after Xmas?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

Damn image link.

https://brickset.com/article/47311/mandalorian-battle-pack-revealed

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

I do wonder if the Netflixification of how we watch TV has knackered people's ability to watch stuff week-by-week - like, I'm pretty sure that some stuff will get tied up in the last few episodes. It can't be 100% episodic, there has to be at least some thread connecting things.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

i more bring it up not to question the plotting of the showrunners but rather to suggest that this wasn't necessarily the disconnected limited one-shot storyline one might think aka there are still unexplained mysteries with these villagers.

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

village lady in a jetpack will save mando from a sarlacc in season 2, book your bets now

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

(my money is on "some of these are bottle eps and one of the tip offs is celebrity director at the helm")

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

Carano's already coming back next season so...who knows?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

well i'm glad to hear that! she was fun.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

So I realize that I have no one to blame but myself for this, but I had a carefully worked out theory in my mind that Yoda, whatever species he is, looked the way he did because he was 900 years old, i.e. he had once been considerably taller with shorter ears and was possibly less green as well. I assumed he had lived 900 years through his supreme mastery of The Force, not because he comes from a species that regularly lives 900 years old (and btw the 50 year "babyhood" or w/e makes no fucking sense even if his species lives 900 years - most animals don't spend 5+% of their lives as infants).

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

You’re not alone in that first thought.

Loads of insects are grubs for months and only mature for days or hours though.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

he's not really an infant tbf, he walks around and drinks soup out of bowls much more effectively than my 2 year old. baby yoda catchier than advanced toddler yoda

adam, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

yeah, he's basically a 2.5 year old, which means that 900 is basically 45 which means that Yoda really should have taken better care of himself. The Force is no substitute for healthy eating and regular exercise.

silverfish, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

all them frogs catch up with you

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link

I’ve been comparing him to my 22 month old and thinking they’re pretty close. Baby Yoda is less messy. That thing in the first couple of episodes was a stroller, not a crib.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

yeah, he's basically a 2.5 year old, which means that 900 is basically 45 which means that Yoda really should have taken better care of himself. The Force is no substitute for healthy eating and regular exercise.

― silverfish, Tuesday, December 3, 2019 2:53 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

But I mean that's still doing it proportional to human years, whereas basically no other species works that way. Tortoises live like 120 years but it doesn't take them over a year to walk.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/qcKw5tIC0K

— henno (@jrhennessy) December 3, 2019

mark s, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link

chomsky writing flash fiction there

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

baby yoda shoes

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

baby yoda morphs into chomsky who morphs into snoke

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

there are species that age differently and i don't think it's so troubling that the ultra rare unknown species yoda belongs to might be one of these

Mordy, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

or maybe this shit's all made up

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 December 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link

imo 900-yr-old yoda is also still a baby in ref his species (clues: small, can't talk in the right order, neoteny to the max by design)

how old is yaddle?

mark s, Tuesday, 3 December 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link

me when i catch baby yoda pic.twitter.com/itJGE0xFQw

— ً (@moretylenol) December 4, 2019

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 December 2019 10:05 (four years ago) link

Ain’t no laws when baby yoda drinking claws.

To end 2019 I got a tattoo of Baby Yoda drinking White Claw.

Enjoy babbbby! pic.twitter.com/jG5MoeBSME

— Baby Yoda’s Baby Daddy (@brockmclaughlin) December 4, 2019

mark s, Thursday, 5 December 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

oh dear god no

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 December 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link

No results found for "larval blobby"

mark s, Thursday, 5 December 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

as we all know, that's because blobby's larval stage occurred outside the human conception of spacetime and attempting to render his extradimensional form as an image would shatter a human mind

it was only once he was extruded into our four-dimensional space by forces still unknown that we could experience his presence, albeit only as a fragment of his true image

"Big Joe Fuck and the Bogalusa Maniac" (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 December 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link

Lots of fan service this week.

People seem to be making a big leap regarding that closing shot

groovypanda, Friday, 6 December 2019 14:27 (four years ago) link

It's always Darth Vader uh hang on.

The question is, was Amy Sedaris's hair model Sigourney Weaver or Brian May?

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 December 2019 03:59 (four years ago) link

Diminishing returns these last two episodes. More and more cornball "guest stars" and it's beginning to feel like some hokey '70s sci fi tv show all of a sudden.
And what's with young Frankie Valli as a bounty hunter?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 December 2019 05:41 (four years ago) link

Finally the Star Wars Christmas Special sequel we've always yearned for.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 7 December 2019 06:21 (four years ago) link

The question is, was Amy Sedaris's hair model Sigourney Weaver or Brian May?

https://ibb.co/QK8tXwv

Legacy of Banality (Pillbox), Saturday, 7 December 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link

https://ibb.co/QK8tXwv

Legacy of Banality (Pillbox), Saturday, 7 December 2019 09:22 (four years ago) link

my wife is a bit of a crafter and, well

https://imgur.com/gallery/yTucSRK

!!!

your wife is v talented <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 8 December 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

Maybe if Amazon or Netflix gets jealous they will make a Strontium Dog tv show.

earlnash, Sunday, 8 December 2019 03:19 (four years ago) link

This episode was pointless, and the young guy's acing was distractingly bad. (At least they finally checked off the "visits actual Tatooine" box...)

Frozen II Outtakes Playlist (morrisp), Monday, 9 December 2019 07:07 (four years ago) link

...make that "acting" (Jon Lovitz voice)

Frozen II Outtakes Playlist (morrisp), Monday, 9 December 2019 07:08 (four years ago) link

This is a dumb question, but why does everyone know to call him "Mando"? That's just b/c he's a Mandalorian, right? Would they call any random Mandalorian "Mando"?

Frozen II Outtakes Playlist (morrisp), Monday, 9 December 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link

Yes, but the implication is that there are not many of them around anymore

Number None, Monday, 9 December 2019 08:21 (four years ago) link

The Tuskan Raiders teleporting to 9 ft away was kinda hilarious, then continuing the comedy by doing that weird, cagey sign language, which The Mandalorian initiates by being David Byrne in the Once In A Lifetime video.

Maresn3st, Monday, 9 December 2019 09:03 (four years ago) link

Jay Vee is otm, wouldn't be surprised if Favreau was a big Salvage One fan.

Maresn3st, Monday, 9 December 2019 09:04 (four years ago) link

NBC's "Buck Rogers" :)

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 9 December 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

I could have sworn the music playing as they rode over the dunes was meant to sound like Toto’s “Africa.” (Wouldn’t put it past this show!)

Frozen II Outtakes Playlist (morrisp), Monday, 9 December 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

Pedro Pascal is seriously in everything these days.

Yerac, Monday, 9 December 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

The bounty hunter wannabe kid is Bobby Cannavale's son!

mh, Monday, 9 December 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link

One more thing: I had guessed that the standard-seeming plot had been nicked from an episode of some old Western, and they’d have to credit the original writer at the end... guess not, though.

Frozen II Outtakes Playlist (morrisp), Monday, 9 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link

The bounty hunter wannabe kid is Bobby Cannavale's son!

Certainly didn't get many of his pop's acting chops though, I thought he was terrible. Amy Sedaris didn't bother me nearly as much as he did. And here I thought young Solo was a charisma suck...

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 9 December 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link

No wonder I disliked him lol!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 9 December 2019 17:22 (four years ago) link

it was brought to my attention on twitter that Disney+ has an impressive array of audio tracks/subtitles

want to watch The Mandalorian dubbed into Polish with Portuguese (Portugal or Brazil flavor) subtitles? they've got you covered

mh, Monday, 9 December 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

After Bryce Dallas Howard told me last week that she never worked with Pedro Pascal while shooting her episode of #TheMandalorian, I did my best to find out who, exactly, was most often below the helmet. https://t.co/31yuEsDrMv

— Liz Shannon Miller (@lizlet) December 9, 2019

damn, sweet gig for pedro pascal

a synthesis of Trotskyism and Ufology (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

The supporting players for the last few weeks have been turrrrrible. Like they plopped in from "Zeena" or "Breaking Bad" or something only this time decked out in Star Wars-y costumes/makeup but acting like folks who would serve you a burger/fill your gastank at a NJ Turnpike rest stop.
What a dip in quality!
(just watched Ep 6)

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 13 December 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

*Xena

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 13 December 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link

bounty hunting is a complicated profession

I was surprised that Mando used to run with the Sons of Anarchy, but everyone’s gotta start out somewhere

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

Richard Ayoade!

What is it with Star Wars casting British comedy actors as droids?

groovypanda, Friday, 13 December 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

They’re betraying the secret of how we actually regard British comedy

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 20:18 (four years ago) link

And we thank them for it. I think.

Anyway, strobe light stalking moment FTW. Half-guessing these last two episodes will be a compact arc and I bet the 7th episode cliffhanger is Baby Yoda gets taken away by Giancarlo Esposito's character, but we'll see. (Reminder too that the next episode is on Wednesday.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 December 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link

oh cool, Bill Burr in episode 6. can't wait to see him tell the people of Galactic City that he hopes their mothers get cancer in their center of their assholes

100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link

Cannavale's son wasn't *that* bad. he came across as a naive toolbag which is kinda what he was supposed to do. his biggest problem was that he acquired Hayden Christiansen-speech syndrome

100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 04:38 (four years ago) link

The supporting players for the last few weeks have been turrrrrible. Like they plopped in from "Zeena" or "Breaking Bad" or something only this time decked out in Star Wars-y costumes/makeup but acting like folks who would serve you a burger/fill your gastank at a NJ Turnpike rest stop.
What a dip in quality!
(just watched Ep 6)

― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, December 13, 2019 9:44 AM bookmarkflaglink

One of them was in Breaking Bad in a bit role actually.

(also u rong)

100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link

the assassin tentacle headed woman in the last episode was SO. FUCKING. BAD. Like they let a LARP cosplayer on set by mistake.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 04:58 (four years ago) link

That would be Natalia Tena of Harry Potter and Game of Thrones fame

100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 05:01 (four years ago) link

kinda agree on her and on the general "this has not been good" vibes. Last two weeks have been lacking whatever secret sauce they've been using (could it actually be favreau?) Two more weeks to go though, right? I presume we're past the fill-in episodes.

lol that the NYT didn't have the balls to go with their online headline in the print edition for this front page above the fold half-page picture leading the arts section
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/12/arts/television/baby-yoda-mandalorian.html

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link

xp I have no liking for HP or GoT either. That said, I did like this last episode, particularly when Mando demonstrated why they needed him. They have used that gag of someone apparently shooting, but being shot themselves three times now, I guess it's a trope?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link

(xxpost) I knew it! Also, not rong.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 10:35 (four years ago) link

Fact that she was in HP and GoT kind of proves she’s a cosplayer. Like EVERYONE else in this...

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

I actually thought this last episode (in the prison complex) was one of the best so far. And I really liked the over the top Twilek performance.

silverfish, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

You won't find a better review of last night's Watchmen than this. pic.twitter.com/PYF7Rz3aQn

— Ben Towle (@ben_towle) December 16, 2019

mark s, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:58 (four years ago) link

oh ffs sorry

mark s, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

no you're among likeminded folk here

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

Found this waiting for me when I got home:

https://i.imgur.com/I0JBxht_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link

favreau on ep 7...

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

Oh no

mh, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

he did the first four! which i thought were good!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link

No, I mean the actual ending of the newest episode :(

mh, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link

oh. um. okay, will watch tonight.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:03 (four years ago) link

just pretend I meant the prison ship one and I really was emotionally attached to the twi'lek guy

mh, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

well he was so charismatic

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

Bill Burr nooooo

maffew12, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

Im sorry but Bill Burr’s accent in star wars implies some sort of space Boston

— Jake Flores (@feraljokes) December 16, 2019

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

correct response "that's called Uranus"

dan selzer, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:11 (four years ago) link

I mean so what? There has to be a space England too

100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

New episode more like it compared to the hackiness of the last few weeks.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

Yeah, enjoyed this week's.

Only one left now?

groovypanda, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link

wow that ruled.

if you'da told me one of my new favorite shows would have Gus Fring, Apollo Creed,AND Bobby Munson making appearances, I'd have told you that you were talking about Mandalorian.

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 03:08 (four years ago) link

Very good episode indeed. Chow two for two.

Yes, one episode left a week from Friday.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 December 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link

(And that episode is Taika's, so I'll be interested to see how he sticks the landing of the whole thing.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 December 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link

This “droid” in Chapter 6 is the jankiest guy-in-a-robot-suit ever. Even his “robotic” movements are half-assed.

And these other two-bit players... oy

I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Thursday, 19 December 2019 05:23 (four years ago) link

This episode makes the last episode look like “The Suitcase.”

I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Thursday, 19 December 2019 05:45 (four years ago) link

this show is really only good when Baby Yoda is on screen which luckily is most of the time. The acting across the board in every episode, even by people who are good actors (ie: not carl weathers) is stiff and weirdly off; maybe this is because the Mandalorian's lines are all dubbed in? There seems to always be an extra beat of silence.

that said the last episode was good.

also wtf Ming Na Wen is 57? Holy fuck. I went back and watched that JLo SNL after that where every sketch was about how hot she was and all I could think was "yeah but Ming Na Wen is 57!"

akm, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

in one of these episodes (maybe the last one? can't remember) someone flat out calls Gina Carano a 'human'. Have they used this word in Star Wars before? My son was like "WTF they're humans????"

akm, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:13 (four years ago) link

Yeah

I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

haven't watched the latest episode

overall, it's probably the most "video game" film/show I've ever seen, ppl say that a lot but I don't think it's usually true. but every episode feels like a mission/quest.

it's been fun though I hope this all adds up to something

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

I like that on that star wars wiki page they list every appearance of humans in star wars

silverfish, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link

gus fring final battle is a good reveal
i do wish they hadn't killed REDACTED
we have a very obvious chekhov's droid / baby yoda kills a dude sequence on the way
i don't see it adding up to anything more than a cliffhanger for next season but that's been the way of the film serial since the 1910's!
this has been a naturally critic-proof and fun distraction from the end of the world, worth recommending in the way i would recommend that people eat Airheads: they're tasty and utterly nutrition-free but you're going to enjoy it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

This last episode was good

I figure that with Nick Nolte (can't remember character's name) shot, the IG-11 robot is going to come out to protect him and kill the two storm troopers who picked up baby Yoda and end up taking care of baby Yoda which will force Mando to overcome his droid racism and have a droid teammate.

silverfish, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link

um, spoilers, I guess.

silverfish, Thursday, 19 December 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

Disappointed that Esposito didn't recreate his Don Eladio speech

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link

I mean so what? There has to be a space England too

― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, December 18, 2019 12:54 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

And space Scotland, space Germany, space Indonesia . . .

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

Space...in space.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

mandalorian has been a boon for youtube remix culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bwzt1itvW6Q

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:29 (four years ago) link

Best episode so far.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link

Yeah, Chapter 7 is worlds better... it feels like the original show again.

Cara Dune is pretty awesome, too

Nobody uses the phone anymore (morrisp), Friday, 20 December 2019 06:14 (four years ago) link

Excited for the atacc/protecc memes

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 21 December 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link

they existed after the original appearance! and within that stretch he had frog snacc

mh, Saturday, 21 December 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link

Oh I was talking about IGGY

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 21 December 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link

Hey, when’s the next one? I thought it would drop today...

Nobody uses the phone anymore (morrisp), Saturday, 21 December 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

There’s a movie out

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 21 December 2019 06:17 (four years ago) link

Haha, that’s why they dropped it early? 🤣

Nobody uses the phone anymore (morrisp), Saturday, 21 December 2019 06:18 (four years ago) link

Yup. Next/final episode is next Friday.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 December 2019 06:22 (four years ago) link

a Star Wars movie, wow what will they think of next

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 December 2019 06:24 (four years ago) link

A TV serwaitaminute

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 December 2019 06:25 (four years ago) link

Toys?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 21 December 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link

a religion? oh wait they did that too

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 21 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

A self-help group?

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

Having now seen the movie — which I’m happy to report is pretty damn rad — there is actually a “storytelling” rationale behind making the latest episode of the show available to watch first... Nice bit of synergy, actually.

Nobody uses the phone anymore (morrisp), Sunday, 22 December 2019 03:42 (four years ago) link

is Baby Yoda the Emperor y/n

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 22 December 2019 04:59 (four years ago) link

Omg my heart 💔

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:00 (four years ago) link

xp I was really hoping the epic reveal was Palpatine ghost inhabiting a Yoda clone

mh, Sunday, 22 December 2019 05:25 (four years ago) link

Agreed re synergy -- nice touch (literally). There's also something else in the movie that made me think a bit about what in the end the whole motivations for the Empire remnants being after Baby Yoda to start with could be about, but we'll see next Friday.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 22 December 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link

The local Moff knows something few do: infants of that species are delicious

mh, Sunday, 22 December 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link

The thing that had crossed my mind is that baby yoda was used either to bring Palpatine back to life (or just to keep him living) or to create Snoke(s). I guess we'll know some day.

silverfish, Monday, 23 December 2019 16:15 (four years ago) link

hooded figures in TROS where you can’t see their faces? all baby yodas

mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link

Wtf spoilers thread this is not

(•̪●) (carne asada), Monday, 23 December 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link

tbf mh's is barely a spoiler, and silverfish's is something the trailer spoiled months ago

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

Did I miss something? What was the tie-in with the movie? (Or are we just talking about the general downfall of the empire/first order)

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 23 December 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link

Baby Yoda Force-healing Apollo Creed.

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

Yeah. everybody thought Ivan Drago was the real victim after Creed came back from the dead and kicked his ass, but the real losers were sportsbooks, who suddenly found themselves paying out massive +500 wagers to Creed bettors

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

Was force healing a thing before this episode and this movie?

silverfish, Monday, 23 December 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

It apparently appeared in some SW media previously

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 December 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

when you're at someone's house and they have a cat pic.twitter.com/6AdLBE2Jir

— baby yodan (@DanLaChapelle) December 22, 2019

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Monday, 23 December 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

Lol this show

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 27 December 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link

I mean, in an approving way, surely.

Thought it was a good way to end in terms of setting up what a continuing series will be, a continuing antagonist, fan easter eggs all the way up to the end, etc. etc. I kinda appreciate that we still don't know why Baby Yoda is wanted, though I'm with the general guesses that it's to do with clone research of some sort.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 December 2019 05:11 (four years ago) link

he’s special

babu frik fan account (mh), Saturday, 28 December 2019 06:37 (four years ago) link

Good finale!

The dead speak! (morrisp), Saturday, 28 December 2019 06:38 (four years ago) link

Where have we seen those big droids before, that were attacking his planet when he was a kid? I know they’ve appeared, but don’t remember in which movie or context.

The dead speak! (morrisp), Saturday, 28 December 2019 06:43 (four years ago) link

Battlestar Galactica?

umsworth (emsworth), Saturday, 28 December 2019 07:56 (four years ago) link

xp it shames me to know, but they are super battle droids, seen hassling R2D2 in Revenge of the Sith and maybe the one before it.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 28 December 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

i know it was pure pandering but the adam pally stormtrooper taking wildly inaccurate potshots at a can six feet away was pretty funny

adam, Saturday, 28 December 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

I'm almost embarrassed that I turned to my wife and said, "Ooh, they're bringing out an E-Web" a full 30 seconds before the word "E-web" was spoken on screen. Almost.

At the end, I also shouted, "HE HAS THE FUCKING DARKSABER."

I like this show.

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Saturday, 28 December 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

"stormtrooper taking wildly inaccurate potshots at a can six feet away was pretty funny"

I watched this scene twice!

akm, Saturday, 28 December 2019 16:45 (four years ago) link

So it seems canon now that Imperial-era Stormtroopers are terrible shots cos possibly they're all the same mediocre clone, whereas First Order Stormtroopers are more capable cos they're all kidnapped and trained from birth?

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 December 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link

I thought troopers weren’t necessarily clones anymore, by the time of the Galactic Civil War (OT) era?

The dead speak! (morrisp), Saturday, 28 December 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

maybe their guns are all shitty. he did shake it and look at it.

akm, Saturday, 28 December 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link

Eliza, my first thought was to wonder what your reaction was to that scene would be!

The two incompetent stormtroopers bit reminded me of the late 90s fan parody TROOPS tbh

babu frik fan account (mh), Saturday, 28 December 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

Closing two episodes really made this after a couple of nondescript moments in the middle. Never bad, just sometimes underwhelming.

The fan service in this was way more satisfying than that in TROS.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 28 December 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link

Prequel-era troopers: Jango Fett clones
Imperial-era troopers: Human conscripts and volunteers
First Order-era troopers: Kidnapped children

The Clone Troopers are shown, on the "Star Wars: Rebels" animated series, to look like this by just a couple of years before ANH thanks to their accelerated aging.

https://thewookieegunner.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/star-wars-rebels-season-two-the-lost-commanders-captain-rex-commander-wolffe-gregor.jpg?w=950

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Saturday, 28 December 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link

starwarslemonparty.png

hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 28 December 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link

apparently it is not canon that this was Rex, but I want to believe
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Nik_Sant

babu frik fan account (mh), Saturday, 28 December 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link

Thanks Eliza. I misremembered.

I loved how the ex-clone Stormtroopers were used in Rebels

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 December 2019 22:52 (four years ago) link

this was a lot of fun

I think I enjoyed it the most out of any of the new Star Wars stuff (aside from maybe Rogue One)

just felt so unburdened by not being this Major Addition to the Star Wars Movie Canon

also Baby Yoda is amazing, obviously very cute but also it's the only element of the new stuff that really "feels* like the original trilogy, it's got that oddball, hokey, almost homemade quality to it that is really endearing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 December 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

I agree, also, Taikia Waititi should direct more of the next season, or maybe the entire thing.

akm, Sunday, 29 December 2019 01:26 (four years ago) link

I’m a little surprised that Din has never heard of the Jedi, considering that he came of age (and trained with the Mandalorians) during the era when the Jedi were still active.

The dead speak! (morrisp), Sunday, 29 December 2019 04:38 (four years ago) link

I think he’s younger than that? the final purge he mentions presumably follows the action they’re going to show in cartoons soon, and that was nearly concurrent with the jedi all being killed.

so the jedi get mostly killed, he’s raised by mandalorians before the empire cracks down on them a final time, and he’s in an expatriate group his entire life

babu frik fan account (mh), Sunday, 29 December 2019 04:42 (four years ago) link

Fair play to PP for looking like absolute shit during the brief helmet reveal.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 29 December 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link

this wound up nicely though i wish they hadn't taken the mask off that old lone ranger

i've definitely come around on the music here, the theme is as good as GoT was as getting you in the right mindset. I still wish they'd dial it back a bit so that it doesn't blow the rest of the sound out of the water but maybe that's my teevee

was discussing this with a friend who hadn't seen it (who, sidenote, was designing a stein with the mandalorian insignia on commission) and wanted to know if baby yoda was THE yoda and I did the whole "no-real-yoda-died-earlier-in-the-saga" bit and digressed with the comment that there's no known race of "yodas" but that the prior yoda and this one appear to be some sort of figures of power that appear occasionally in the star wars world and she said "oh so it's like the dalai lama" and i was SO embarrassed i hadn't made that connection but now i'm hard pressed not to see "baby yoda" as "reincarnated yoda"

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 December 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

btw based on their costuming, the group that rescued our intrepid hero as a child was specifically the Death Watch. If you aren't familiar with them, get ready for a ride.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Death_Watch

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Sunday, 29 December 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

xp there was one other Jedi of his species on the council... Yaddle

babu frik fan account (mh), Sunday, 29 December 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link

Also Yoda was still alive when The Child was born.

The dead speak! (morrisp), Sunday, 29 December 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

he's not a tame lion yoda

mark s, Sunday, 29 December 2019 18:57 (four years ago) link

re the helmet reveal, how do you get a weatherbeaten face if you literally never expose it to the elements?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

When he goes home at night he takes off his helmet and then has droids blast him in the face with Hurricane force wind and debris, so he will look epic if ever demasked.

Naturally he destroys these droids every night so that's why his bills are so high

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link

story checks out

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link

xp i skipped more than half of the new films (i.e. anything post original trilogy) and kinda barely engaged with the ones I saw; even so i assume there can be multiple incarnations of the bodhisattva? and that the yoda species are the chosen host forms?

morrisp: do we know for sure that the timeline has baby yoda alive at the same time as old yoda? is there an argument to be made that the child comes to full fruition only when the last incarnation passes and that explains its slow genesis? am i going to hell for asking these questions?

lol at "yaddle" btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

the show takes place ~5 years after return of the jedi and the baby is 50 years old so yeah they were alive for ~45 years simultaneously

Clay, Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link

so we can assume the child was swaddled in a exogorth silk cocoon* that it only emerged from when yoda passed, hence the sudden rush to find it. it's all obvious if you think about it.

*cocoon sold separately

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

A who what now

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:52 (four years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/fBoRSBm.png

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 December 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link

can i just say how amazed i am that they've managed to suppress any and all pictures of the puppeteers of baby yoda for so long? Can someone provide me visual evidence that it IS a puppet? I mean I get that it's a mix of puppet and CGI but disney has somehow managed to make sure no one has seen any of the imagineering for the past few months and that's a real feat!

also, apropos of nothing, here's a fun alternate universe:

The Yoda puppet in The Empire Strikes Back was controlled by puppeting legend Frank Oz, who in his career not only controlled and voiced the Star Wars icon but also characters like Miss Piggy, Cookie Monster and some of the many creatures from the film Labyrinth. However, that character too was nearly not a puppet. According to J.W. Rinzler's book The Making of The Empire Strikes Back, the character was nearly portrayed by a trained monkey in a costume.

However, a crew member who had worked on the ape sequences at the start of 2001: A Space Odyssey reportedly warned them about all the trouble a monkey would cause on set, leading them to abandon the idea.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 30 December 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link

YODA: That is why you fail.
- YODA flings shit at LUKE -

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 30 December 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link

"Fuck this. going home to Aunt Beru and Uncle Owen"

"Dead, that are."

"Be that as it may..."

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 December 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

*they

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 December 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link

most of the time you only see his face so he’s likely 90% remote controlled facial servos

babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 30 December 2019 01:16 (four years ago) link

I think the arm movements are all manual puppeteer movements because he only does them in close-up

babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 30 December 2019 01:17 (four years ago) link

For the scenes where he’s being punched or dropped, they used a human toddler in a rubber suit.

The dead speak! (morrisp), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

That makes sense

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link

I want to know what kind of gigantic food sources the space slug happens to drift by that it needs a mouth like an orca but known whatever wookiepedia tells me will be disappointing

joygoat, Monday, 30 December 2019 03:53 (four years ago) link

Really liked this piece. It touches on some things my girlfriend's noted (she loves the series deeply).

https://io9.gizmodo.com/i-never-knew-how-much-i-needed-a-star-wars-tv-series-be-1840725748

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

the show had a massive $15 million budget per episode

i hope this is going to talent and design because the FX are regularly not that great!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

still, the speeder bike troopers sequence at the start of the last episode was great. Bendis-y dialogue works well in live action star wars universe shocker.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

I should watch Rebels then, I guess.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

This was a blast IMO. Favorite bits were the A-Team episode, the prisoner heist, and the siege in the last ep. The whole western-meets-samurai movie worked well and the lack of interest in an overly complicated overarching plot were positives. All the bounty hunters looked cool, and Mando was a sufficient badass but not so much so that he didn't get in way over his head pretty regularly. Herzog was great, Esposito was unexpected. I irl lol'd with Weathers' "he's trying to eat me" line. Not paying any attention to this pre-release really made it a fun surprise.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link

I was today years old when I learned that the aw shucks nice guy that Buffy befriended on her first day of college who was immediately turned into a vampire was played by a 24-year-old PEDRO PASCAL pic.twitter.com/5q7jAZiDWm

— Brett White (@brettwhite) December 31, 2019

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

The stuff with Amy Sedaris reminded me of the Holiday Special (in a good way).

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 2 January 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

I’d like to think she styled her own hair

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link

kinda wish she'd just gone full Jeri Blank on it, overbite and everything.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

I flew through the season this weekend. imo this is the closest a SW property has gotten to the tone of the originals: the adventure, the half-explained culture/mysticism, and also not afraid to slow down the pace (something the new trilogy really missed). I couldn't believe how bad the three middle less-plotty eps were in comparison to the rest though, like below-average eps of Farscape. I guess the prison break one was ok. If they can tighten the quality next season, this could be a truly excellent show

Vinnie, Sunday, 5 January 2020 07:54 (four years ago) link

I liked this much more than any Star Wars film I’ve seen - though I didn’t watch any post phantom menace.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:42 (four years ago) link

You liked it much more than the original movies? That’s certainly a take!

Into the Bro-known: One Dude’s ‘Frozen’ Podcast (morrisp), Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:24 (four years ago) link

you know what, i'll cosign that take! Maybe not the first time I saw them, but I like the best of the mandalorian more than i like the best of SW1 or whatever the fuck the numbering system is.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

Not sure where to put this (the SW9 thread is full of “toxic fandom” or something), so I’ll put it here... kind of interesting rumor:

https://makingstarwars.net/2020/01/the-next-star-wars-film-saga-to-be-set-during-the-high-republic-era/

Into the Bro-known: One Dude’s ‘Frozen’ Podcast (morrisp), Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

didn’t that site go full-on into publishing salacious rumors in the run up to the recent movie? the theory being that site traffic was going to peak before the movie release so anything for clicks was game

babu frik fan account (mh), Monday, 6 January 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link

I dunno, it was linked somewhere else (CBR.com). If it’s not reputable, I retract my post, lol

Into the Bro-known: One Dude’s ‘Frozen’ Podcast (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 01:21 (four years ago) link

They won’t rest til adult Yoda is a baby once more

525,600 gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 January 2020 01:27 (four years ago) link

Nobody has mentioned it but I also thought Ludwig Göransson did an amazing job with the score. Sometimes a little distracting but some really cool sound design and ideas

Vinnie, Monday, 6 January 2020 02:58 (four years ago) link

I was listening to some of the episode scores on Amazon Music and they really are terrific. He is definitely doing some very different things for Star Wars, even more so than Kevin Kiner did on Clone Wars.

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Monday, 6 January 2020 03:03 (four years ago) link

i have both mentioned it and nominated the theme for the ILX Song poll!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 6 January 2020 03:15 (four years ago) link

oops so you did!

Vinnie, Monday, 6 January 2020 05:30 (four years ago) link

Yeah the score is awesome.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 6 January 2020 08:20 (four years ago) link

Loved the score. The processed recorder stuff is wonderful.

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Monday, 6 January 2020 14:19 (four years ago) link

Nothing was ever concluded re: the mysterious figure at the end of the Amy Sedaris speeder bikes on Tatooine episode, was it?

Moff Gideon knew a lot about who Mando is, so do we assume it was him? Or just a bounty hunter tailing them?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link

At the time everyone was assuming it was somehow Boba Fett but pretty sure it was Gideon

(although redditors are still convinced it was BF based on the sound effect used)

groovypanda, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link

in one of these episodes (maybe the last one? can't remember) someone flat out calls Gina Carano a 'human'. Have they used this word in Star Wars before? My son was like "WTF they're humans????"

Are the people in the Star Wars movies humans?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link

xpost -- yeah was wondering this myself. BF seems...a reach. Has he been resurrected in the Disney EU yet?

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link

Eliza probably knows better than I, but after consuming nearly all Star Wars media for the last two years in a final round before I theoretically walk away, my knowledge says: no

babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

Anyway, yes please. (Updated from an earlier version.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJH_RbnrGUs

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link

heh that's great.

Nhex, Friday, 10 January 2020 01:21 (four years ago) link

as with almost everything star wars, this was fine but should have been a lot better. any little bit of originality at all might have been nice too

have 'tracking fobs' been used elsewhere in this universe? i have some questions about that technology

special props to the cara-mando relationship making no sense and giancarlo's entire strategy in town being absurd -- i mean holy shit 'i'll wait until nightfall for your decision' is beyond bond-level

liked that pillboi from the good place was one of the hapless villagers tho

mookieproof, Friday, 10 January 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link

Buggin’s “Youu have something I waaaaaaaant” read had me in stitches

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Friday, 10 January 2020 04:49 (four years ago) link

Cara & Mando made perfect sense to me - both disenfranchised former military loners trying to avoid the glare of the Republic and the ex-Empire, bump into each other on a faraway planet and recognise a kindred spirit, bond over a tussle, do a bit of work together, bond over baby Yoda, go separate ways as both still loners, reunite to help out baby Yoda again. Both hate the Empire and feel unwanted by the Republic. That's best friends material in Star Wars.

As for Moff Gideon's absurd monologuing, this is Star Wars and he's a villain.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 January 2020 11:15 (four years ago) link

Yeah, I totally bought the Mando/Caro bonding, but agree that Gideon's "we'll wait until nightfall" was ridiculous, even by SW standards. You have an army surrounding the place, the people inside there have nothing to negotiate with, wtf do you gain by waiting for hours instead of asking them to surrender immediately or be shot to death?

Tuomas, Friday, 10 January 2020 11:51 (four years ago) link

half the time cara is all 'you can't go in there alone!' and 'i won't leave you behind!' and the other half is 'actually i'm going to start a new life with carl weathers' and 'see you when our paths cross'

also it makes no sense for the droid to bring the kid into town, among other bizarre motivations

i mean, i don't care that the ships make noise in the vacuum of space etc etc, i just wanted more internal coherence

i have spoken

mookieproof, Friday, 10 January 2020 11:55 (four years ago) link

Gideon doesn't want to shoot them to death cos he needs baby Yoda and baby Yoda at that point was AWOL cos IG11 had rescued him, so he's sweating them out until they surrender and lead him to baby Yoda.

Cara won't leave him alone in dangerous / combat situations because trained military / leave no man behind instinct. Soon as they're out of that she's happy to go their separate loner ways.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 January 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link

I mean I can't believe I'm defending a Star Wars on the internet but this is not 'Emperor Palpatine grew a bazillion star destroyers undet the ocean with his mind' territory.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 January 2020 13:48 (four years ago) link

Gideon's one of the first genuinely ominous characters from high in the Imperial ranks who's not played by a stuffy british man

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 10 January 2020 15:06 (four years ago) link

have 'tracking fobs' been used elsewhere in this universe? i have some questions about that technology

Boba Fett put some sort of tracker on the falcon in ESB, not exactly the same, but close enough.

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 January 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

why then was gideon's initial move to have his dudes shoot the shit out of the bar (luckily leaving our heroes intact)? anyway if gideon knows everyone's name, and that baby yoda is elsewhere, and there are several dozen tracking fobs that can find him from planets away, i don't think he needs to sweat them out

good point about the territory tho

mookieproof, Friday, 10 January 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link

if you've got them pinned in, better to get them now than to go on some damned fool crusade across the sector if they manage to get out

appreciated that obviously he was the authority over all stormtroopers, but the local squad was not very good compared to his personal troops. no wonder he didn't mind just blasting a bunch of what appeared to be his own men -- they're the scrubs who got posted at the ass end of the region

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 10 January 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

"If you try to interfere, this becomes a much simpler matter. I will kill Cara. I will kill Greef Karga. I will kill the child."

papa stank (Neanderthal), Friday, 10 January 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link

Me to the 5yo this morning: “if you don’t get dressed right now I’m throwing your toys away”

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 January 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link

She didn’t. I didn’t.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 January 2020 16:17 (four years ago) link

it makes no sense for the droid to bring the kid into town

this is sorta undeniable and handwaved away by mando needing to fly them out of town i guess but why is the robot bringing the child it has sworn to protect into a firefight?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 January 2020 20:02 (four years ago) link

he's there to nurse and protect, but the protection extends beyond the child imo

also we really needed that cool speeder/blaster fight

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 10 January 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link

The only thing I really chuckled at was the lava-river gondola droid, who can apparently only row on the port side, yet the boat goes perfectly straight (as if, say, on a "dark ride" track).

Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link

(I did also think -- "How conveeeeeeenient," at the "you have until nightfall" line)

Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link

gondola droid should really have been a permanent character, I love that R2 design. is it used elsewhere in the films?

http://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/mandalorian-ep8-r2-2.jpg

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 10 January 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link

The only thing I really chuckled at was the lava-river gondola droid, who can apparently only row on the port side, yet the boat goes perfectly straight

like... a gondola?

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 10 January 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

over the last 40 years my mind never even conceived of a frankendroid like that existing and it kind of messed with my head to see it

joygoat, Friday, 10 January 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

xp A gondolier doesn't switch sides? Then never mind, I don't know what I'm talking about.

Don’t yell ‘Judas!’ in a crowded theater (morrisp), Friday, 10 January 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

Yeah that droid freaked me out a bit. However I lost my shit with delight when the stormtroopers showed up in a troop transport straight out of the 1978 Kenner catalogue.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 11 January 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link

Omg yes! I’m sure I had that

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 11 January 2020 03:08 (four years ago) link

I lost my shit with delight when the stormtroopers showed up in a troop transport straight out of the 1978 Kenner catalogue

this was a great detail. Having finally just caught Rise of Skywalker (now the worst subtitle in the series) I preferred the adventures of Mando by a significant margin.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 12 January 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link

Skies of Risewalker

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 12 January 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link

The deepest confession

https://io9.gizmodo.com/adam-pally-tells-all-about-the-day-he-punched-baby-yoda-1840958370

Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 January 2020 01:46 (four years ago) link

The circle is now complete.

pic.twitter.com/y121exIBtZ

— Jon Favreau (@Jon_Favreau) January 17, 2020

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 January 2020 02:24 (four years ago) link

<3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 January 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link

Ned u should go do an intentional bad post now just for fun, you've earned it

lukas, Friday, 17 January 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link

Amazing

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 January 2020 04:15 (four years ago) link

Was wondering when we'd start seeing these:

https://www.slashfilm.com/the-mandalorian-stagecraft-photos/

Ned Raggett, Friday, 24 January 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link

impressive how they were able to get nolte so small

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 24 January 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link

he lost height for the role

... that's Traore! (Neanderthal), Friday, 24 January 2020 21:47 (four years ago) link

nice tech!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 January 2020 21:59 (four years ago) link

My daughter asked me if I wanted to start this tonight, so I figured, we have Disney, why not. And hey, the first two episodes were really surprisingly entertaining. Kind of reminded me of the stuff I used to watch on TV in the early '80s, but with better production values. I wonder if they actually sat down, jotted down a list of all the things the nu-Star Wars movies did wrong, and made sure to take a different approach?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 January 2020 02:57 (four years ago) link

I’m pretty sure they must have done just that.

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 30 January 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link

Hopefully Witcher S2 will take some pointers from Mando S1. A few characters, a monster, there you go

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 January 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

We're watching episode 3, and this is like ... space John Wick?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 January 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link

Oof, really didn't like episode 4. So corny, like an episode of Hercules or Xena.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

7 Samurai one and the one after are probably the two least good episodes but I kinda liked them both tbh. The corniness and Hercules-adjacentness is part of the draw of this show. I really like how tea-time it all feels.

closed beta (NotEnough), Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link

Yeah, episode 4

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:51 (four years ago) link

... was the seven samurai one. Just kind of clunky and inert and not well acted or directed. Was that Bryce Dallas Howard's directorial debut? Maybe that's why.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 30 January 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link

The A-Team episode? That was a highlight imo

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 31 January 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link

I wonder if that was the brief actually - do an “A Team” one, do a Xena episode, etc. That’s what Community did, and pretty successfully for the most part.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 31 January 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link

lol yeah, the ep was totally A Team! Which fits with my first impression that this is like what I watched as a kid in the early 80s.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 31 January 2020 02:38 (four years ago) link

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link

Whuh, Bill Burr?!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link

After a few duds that was a really good one, like John Carpenter directing "Star Wars."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 02:39 (four years ago) link

don't forget Clancy Brown, baby!

Nhex, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link

That was the worst one - you’re a madman, Josh !

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 03:04 (four years ago) link

(But you’re kewl for endorsing my “Hercules or Xena” observation from upthread, undoubtedly without having read it.)

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 03:05 (four years ago) link

Don’t listen to them! Prison break was my second-favorite one!

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 03:07 (four years ago) link

Hated the prison break episode, though not for Bill Burr. But the Seven Samurai ep was even worse. Remarkable those episodes were in the same season as the first few and last two

Vinnie, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 13:16 (four years ago) link

Why did you all hate the prison break episode? I thought it was a stylish action caper. Though I think I missed why Mando was even doing such a sketchy job in the first place. Or, for that matter, what his endgame is at all. He's just compulsively traveling the universe doing odd jobs with baby yoda locked in the bathroom? Anyway, a couple of episodes have been dull, Seven Samurai/A-Team sucked, a couple have been solid. At least these geniuses have figured out that it's smart to make the first few episodes of a new series strong, rather than drop one of those "it takes 5 episodes to get going" turds.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link

The general charm of the show carried me through the three filler episodes. What show is wall to wall gold anyway?

closed beta (NotEnough), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link

xp It was full of corny, half-baked cliches and bad acting. (And please don’t “Welcome to Star Wars!” me; I know the difference!)

My favorite detail was how those sliding doors apparently don’t have sensors, and will f up a lifeform if it’s standing in the doorway when it closes.

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link

Ha, I actually liked that. It felt like a riff on a familiar SW trope (those fast sliding space doors) that no one's ever toyed with before. I mean, this is a show/world where apparently you can't set your phasers to stun, so it totally makes sense that they haven't invented the garage door opener safety space tech yet.

As for "corny, half-baked cliches and bad acting" (besides, well, yeah), this show is innately corny, so far, but the cliches and bad acting in this one were nowhere near as bad as the Seven Samurai episode, which will be my baseline going forward. And I thought the direction of this one (unlike that one) was super sharp.

I've noticed so far that there have been relatively few shots of Mando running, no doubt because it would highlight the cheapness of the costume, lol. Better to have him just move with purpose to control the illusion that all that cardboard and plastic has real heft and weight. (See also: "RoboCop".)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 15:36 (four years ago) link

They can set blasters to stun!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYelmcVoZg8

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

no one ever uses blasters on stun unless it's an important plot point

one of the funnier star wars things

caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link

IIRC the only other time we've seen the stun setting used on-screen is when Leia stuns Poe in TLJ. (With the same pistol she used in ANH, no less.)

Here's another article similar to the one I posted above, but much more interesting and detailed, about the new hi-def LED screen technology allowing them to do on-set/in-camera effects: http://www.icgmagazine.com/web/a-new-hope/ . It's really fascinating, like a Cyclorama thrust into the future.

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 16:51 (four years ago) link

xp Well, it's rare that anyone wants to stun (rather than kill), these are nasty wars!

dad genes (morrisp), Tuesday, 4 February 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

In the jailbreak episode there is a standoff with everyone pointing guns at one another, and Mando is all "it doesn't have to be like this ..." No, because you could just set phasers to stun! (Ironically enough, the one dude is killed with a knife, though, so ... )

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

Last couple of episodes were solid! It's kind of wild how well this show both expands on the universe we know and introduces new stuff. I didn't see "Solo" or the most recent one, but without a doubt this is better than those other three. Good characters, good set-up and storytelling, and if I'm being honest I could probably watch a show just about his ship landing and taking off.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 03:12 (four years ago) link

Well get ready for spinoffs.

dad genes (morrisp), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 03:21 (four years ago) link

Bill Burr's Galactic Masshole

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 03:23 (four years ago) link

xpost Ugh, no! Don't lean on the movies, bounce *off* the movies! Young this, young that ... who the fuck cares about whoever the fuck that guy is in Rogue One? Who cares about Young Obi? No one needs a Young Wicket prequel. They've spent all this time developing a world, it's time to play in it a bit, like this show does. Introduce new quests and questions, don't answer questions that no one really has. "It turns out Ben was a big fan of the rapper *Obie* Trice from D12 ... "

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 12:56 (four years ago) link

I'm actually looking forward to the Cassian Andor show, because I love the idea of his Rebel secret agent character who had to do a lot of morally-compromised wet work. Plus I love Diego Luna.

Anyway, premium nerd collectibles company Sideshow Collectibles (I have a bunch of their stuff) just revealed a life-sized Baby Yoda that will be selling for $350 to the Star Wars collector with refined taste.

https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/star-wars-the-child-sideshow-collectibles-400369

https://www.sideshow.com/storage/product-images/400369/the-child_star-wars_silo.png

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 13:44 (four years ago) link

Has the show confirmed it to be Yoda, or just, er, *a* Yoda? Because good luck un-naming it, show.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link

how do yodae reproduce

mookieproof, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:07 (four years ago) link

Budding iirc

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link

Curious to me that Jon Favreau wrote almost every episode of this (including the bad ones) but didn't direct any.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link

when you're showrunner these days those credits can be half-formality

Nhex, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link

I'm torn between "ugh this entertaining television show really only exists to create merchandising opportunities" and "I must protect him"

caucus fricked iowa account (mh), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link

I'm halfway through this. Distracted at times by how much Mando's voice & dialogue sounds like a Tom Cruise soundboard.

dinnerboat, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

I thought he sounded like Clint Eastwood, by design.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 5 February 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

Yoda is the exemplar of a species only known as Yoda's species.

Perhaps its just a child of Viridihomine yodalensis.

Wash your hands! (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link

Josh otm about exploring the world not dragging out the same tired characters - it’s exactly why this worked. And Rogue One despite the shoehorned cameos.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 5 February 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

Has the show confirmed it to be Yoda, or just, er, *a* Yoda? Because good luck un-naming it, show.

The show takes place after the fall of the Empire in RotJ, i.e. after Yoda's death, so the kid is merely a member Yoda's species. There's some speculation whether it's related to Yoda tho, mostly because his species is so mysterious and rare that previously we've only seen two members of it onscreen (Yoda himself and the female Jedi in the prequel trilogy).

Tuomas, Thursday, 6 February 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link

that's fucking YADDLE u savage, put some respect on her name

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 6 February 2020 11:13 (four years ago) link

One of my friends has a young daughter (she's 6, I think) who drew this beautiful portrait.

https://i.imgur.com/ldaKUMF.jpg

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Thursday, 6 February 2020 15:58 (four years ago) link

A 6 year old drew that!? It's great!

Dan I., Thursday, 6 February 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

looks like a Sun Ra cover

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 February 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link

if you find Luke boring, just the same old Force thing

Dan I., Thursday, 6 February 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

finally catching up to this - just watched the seven samurai vs the at-st episode and it was GRATE, the haters itt are nuts

the scary-monster at-st and the terrifying unstoppable darth vader at the end of rogue one are both great examples of how treating star wars as a place rather than as endless extensions of the skywalker saga can refresh and revitalise the extremely over-familiar

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 10 February 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link

Ha i’m 6 mins into ep 1 is the mask reveal that he’s ancient clint eastwood

in a mellow, balmy way (Hunt3r), Thursday, 20 February 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

A new “Star Wars” series is in the works at Disney Plus, Variety has learned from sources. The series hails from Leslye Headland, the co-creator, showrunner, and executive producer of the critically-acclaimed Netflix series “Russian Doll.”

Details of the exact plot of the series are being kept under wraps, but sources say it will be a female-centric series that takes place in a different part of the “Star Wars” timeline than other projects. Headland is said to be attached to write and serve as showrunner on the series, with the show currently staffing.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 24 April 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

yaddle please

wasdnous (abanana), Friday, 24 April 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Finally, the Young Maz Kanata spinoff we've all been waiting for!

Tuomas, Saturday, 25 April 2020 09:23 (three years ago) link

I had been hearing conflicting reports, but noticed this line in a NYT article about the state of the Disney empire in general:

The production shutdown will almost certainly delay Marvel shows like “The Falcon and the Winter Soldier,” which was supposed to arrive in August. But the service’s big hit, “The Mandalorian,” finished shooting its second season before the pandemic spread to the United States and will arrive in the fall on schedule. Mr. Nathanson estimates that Disney Plus will lose $2 billion this year, with programming a major expense.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 4 May 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

that's actually a relief

Nhex, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

D+ sucks is the thing

Spottie, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

Idk, I def have concerns about Disney becoming one of our sole entertainment overlords the same as everyone else, but I'll say that Diney+ has more than paid for itself a hundred times over in trying to keep an 8 year-old entertained during quarantine.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 4 May 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

First episode of the making-of documentary now live IIRC? Was going to catch it tonight.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 May 2020 20:37 (three years ago) link

To the extent D+ suxx, it's due to the lack of new content (plus, to a lesser extent, some UI issues)... the production delays obv. won't help, but it good (for them, and I guess "us") that Mandalorian S2 will arrive on time.

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Monday, 4 May 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

I get the lack of big name new content, but tbh getting Onward early was huge for my son.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 4 May 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

We watched that too -- and have watched Frozen II many times. Getting those films on the service early, due to the circumstances, was welcome for sure.

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Monday, 4 May 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

i just have to catch up on the current season of Clone Wars, but after that I'm not sure what I' going to watch. it's been worth it to be able to watch 6 seasons of that show, though!

Nhex, Monday, 4 May 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

Clone Wars ended strong

tbf the entire draw of D+ is kids who haven't seen any of the back catalog and families that will watch it together

I can't hate on Disney otherwise, as far as streaming crap goes, because they've tossed FX's back catalog on Hulu and are doing some collaborative Originals program over there

mh, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

I haven't yet but i understand that watching Rebels is the thing after finishing Clone Wars. Same showrunner as CW and The Mandalorian and it takes place between those two shows.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

I have a three your old. We were generally pretty good about not watching too much tv but isolation and general anxiety has kind of changed that. Disney+ is pretty crucial as we go through everything classic and not so classic movie most weekends.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 02:21 (three years ago) link

oh yeah. Rebels! i should definitely watch that. I've heard less good things about Resistance.

Nhex, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 03:22 (three years ago) link

Have any of you watched the "Forces of Destiny" cartoon? I saw it promoted on there and thought I may check it out, I like the idea of it (but I guess they're really short?)

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 03:25 (three years ago) link

Resistance is for younger kids and was kind of boring. I watched a couple episodes

Rebels is pretty much the best Star Wars animated thing they’ve done, although my memory of Droids is haphazard

mh, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

Rebels is indeed great and I need to finish it

genital giant (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link

As for the first part of the Mandolarian documentary -- light but enjoyable, basically had all the directors in a round table and then interviewed individually. Some good Dave Filoni stories.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 00:15 (three years ago) link

I will watch and enjoy but I was watching some cooking show on netflix, the Skywalker Ranch episode (btw their garden is lit) and when Filoni showed up and started riffing with Jon Favreau I had to shake my head and mumble “neeeeerds”

I mean, I enjoy the little nods in episodes and Star Wars minutiae but all the “peel the curtain back” things I’ve seen, and this is a judgment of my own nerdery, are people chuckling over things I’ve read

mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

I'm hoping they'll let each episode director do a full-episode commentary at some point. It's trivial now with streaming media to just record the thing and make it an audio track option. I'd love to hear Bryce and Deborah esp. talk more at length about their experiences as the first women to direct live-action SW.

Bougy! Bougie! Bougé! (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 02:16 (three years ago) link

or you could also listen to the many surprisingly good multiple language tracks

the mandalorian in Portuguese, still good

mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link

on ep 2

my kids are v pro-jawa and v anti-mandalorian at the moment

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

THE EGG

mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

Filoni's story about meeting George was good, but wish the other directors would have had more time to talk. Hearing the women and POC talk more about being brought into the Star Wars universe would have been even more interesting, maybe we'll get more of that in future eps. Surprised to see that much footage of Lucas on set, didn't realize he'd be that involved.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

i love how faithful the subtitles and fonts and everything are. it's pretty great.

also nice to see an elasmotherium rocking up -
https://www.ancient-origins.net/unexplained-phenomena/last-siberian-unicorns-what-happened-mammoth-sized-one-horned-beasts-legend-021239

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

(spoiler alert, I guess)

I eat fast foods (morrisp), Friday, 8 May 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

episode 3 is like an episode of samurai jack mashed up with horizon zero dawn. the red eyes in the AT-ST were a nice touch. (it felt like it was about twice as big as the AT-STs in Jedi!)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 8 May 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

in the last ep when his mask comes off my son goes "i thought his face would look a little more..... buff"

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link

Buff or not, he's eligible for a Golden Globe thanks to that brief reveal (otherwise, he wouldn't have been): https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/mandalorian-pedro-pascal-golden-globes-rule-change-masked-characters-1234616883/

Charging for Brewskis™ (morrisp), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUL8QcjcFuI

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

Didn't know voice-only performances weren't eligible. Pretty stupid and definitely going to come up again when somebody eventually gets serious consideration for a CGI-only performance.

Also weird that the GGs are decided by only 85 voters right now, but I know of some worse organizations.

Nhex, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

Amazed more than 85 people in the world even cAre about the golden globe awards.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Sunday, 31 May 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

I’m seeing The Clone Wars movie for the first time (my son is watching it); the “Huttlet” makes Baby Yoda seem a bit less... novel.

OG Honeymoon Ave (morrisp), Saturday, 27 June 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Finally watching this (thanks to a friend's D+ trial), and it's...ok? I guess I was hoping it would be better? We're halfway through. I wonder if they're purposefully mixing in some bad actors to get that o.g. Star Wars flavor, but dang, when there's actually dialogue, it is so bad.

A little less pew-pew action and more of a sense of humor would be nice, but oh well.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 17 July 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

lol I liked this, but I don't know why anyone would expect it to be better than just okay.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 July 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

REFUSE to watch FAN SERVICE mandaWHORian!

does anyone know when s2 starts?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 17 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

First two episodes are proper good, best Star Wars thing since the 80s, then they go a bit samey.

chap, Friday, 17 July 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

Oct supposedly

Ok the last two episodes finally felt like a decent show. Although I would prefer if it was just Amy Sedaris as a single mechanic babysitting Baby Yods and playing cards with droids. Or those two stormtroopers doing Waiting for Godot.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

jordan you didn't get any humor out of it? I thought that was one of its strong suits

calstars, Wednesday, 22 July 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

I feel like the funny maybe came a bit later? Esp that one episode directed by Taika Waititi, that one was tops.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Thursday, 23 July 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the only actually funny stuff was Taika-related (either his initial droid appearance or the last ep) imo. Or Amy Sedaris just being onscreen. Everything else felt pretty forced (no pun intended) or relied on a reaction shot from baby Yoda.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 July 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

Little yoda was funny af, what’s wrong with you

calstars, Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

i didn’t realise until the kids pointed it out that that’s not actually yoda, since this takes place after yoda dies. i totally thought it was.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, my wife had the same realization after we finished the last episode.

Baby Yoda was great, but there was not enough Baby Yoda to substitute for writing decent dialogue and plots.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RidSWiDnfsU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 July 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

SORRY THIS FAN SERVICE IS DISGRACEFUL

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

That was from the episode Taika directed, does not count against my thesis

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

the Horizon Zero Dawn episode was pretty good i thought.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 July 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link

haha, was that also the Xena one? Or the mudhorn one?

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 23 July 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

yes the xena one!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 July 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

the IG-88 one (or whatever this one’s name actually was) was sick af imo

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 23 July 2020 21:01 (three years ago) link

I claim credit for christening it the "Xena one," lol

Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Thursday, 23 July 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

I didn't think anyone could describe that episode as anything else than the Seven Samurai one, since that's where the plot came from... But the Seven Samurai plot has been done so many times in American media, starting with The Magnificent Seven, so I guess Xena might've had an episode like that too?

Tuomas, Friday, 24 July 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link

I dunno, it's not even about the plot specifically - it just had the look & feel of a cheesy mid-'90s syndicated show, like Xena or Hercules.

Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

(and I guess the plot did feel like something that would happen on Xena, but I don't know all the episodes by heart, I was always stoned with my roommate when watching it.)

Your dream has symbolic content (morrisp), Friday, 24 July 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

I claim credit for christening it the "Xena one," lol

Credit due, it's totally apt (in terms of tone/acting/premise). The pretty widow having a crush on the Mandalorian just because he was...there, so bad. Also, maybe it was a Seven Samurai reference, but their big plan was to get the AT-ST to step in a river?

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 July 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

IIRC there's a scene in the SS where the samurai allow some of the bandits on horseback to ride into the village, only to be met by the villagers who they didn't except to be armed and fighting back... So the AT-ST trap scene was probably meant to be equivalent to that. Tho of course in SS the bandits attack in several phases, and the battle takes up the entire second half of the movie, whereas here they obviously had much less time available, so they had to compress the villagers' gambit into a single make-it-or-break-it trap.

Tuomas, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link

And the romantic subplot comes from SS too, where one of the samurai the villagers hired and a girl from the village have a budding romance, but in the end they can't be together (though in SS it's because of class differences).

Tuomas, Friday, 24 July 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

there was not enough Baby Yoda to substitute for writing decent dialogue and plots

could also apply to every other star wars property

mookieproof, Friday, 24 July 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

The Xena/ A-Team ep was one of my favorites precisely for its Xena/A-Team-ness.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:07 (three years ago) link

it all feeling very saturday afternoon tv is a big part of the charm

closed beta (NotEnough), Friday, 24 July 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This was fun to burn through in a single weekend. How do Mandalorians get haircuts?!?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

They must have really bad skin

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

They could teach many in this world about proper mask wearing.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

They take off their helmets, just not in the presence of outsiders, right(?)

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link

He makes it pretty clear he’s never taken it off in front of anybody.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link

Huh, I guess he must cut his own hair then.

Washington Foosball Team (morrisp), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

xp except the emmy voting academy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

he fucks with the helmet on

popeye's arse (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

oh, definitely

Nhex, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

that's the space kink for ya

Nhex, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

Is the Taika episode worth watching by itself?

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

It's the final one of the season and builds on just about everything before it so I'd be hesitant.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

No prob, he did 5/12 of the US remake of The Inbetweeners and I'm never going to tick those off.

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:42 (three years ago) link

sic you put yourself through countless hours of Doctor Who episodes that you find execrable, just watch the show, it’s over in no time

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

nah

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:54 (three years ago) link

I skipped from Caravan Of Courage in the cinema to Last Jedi in the cinema, there was just ambient chat about Waititi's ep being characteristically funny

*except for one single comic book with short comedy stories by Tony Millionaire, Beto Hernandez, Peter Bagge and Jason

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

Honestly I don't think there's much you need to know in the final episode that you won't pick up instantly

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:00 (three years ago) link

That's what I figured! There's a metalfaced bounty hunter / ronin dude with a yoda cub in his baby cart, and he's on a fetch quest, right?

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

Yeah I mean it's not rocket science fiction

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

irl giggle

Steppin' RZA (sic), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

Deborah Chow's episodes (3 and 7) are worth your time too

assert (MatthewK), Tuesday, 11 August 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

Taika Is also a voice actor in the first episode

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

also the whole series is pretty short just watch the whole thing!

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link

I refer the honorable member to my previous answer

Steppin' RZA (sic), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

Yeah, i watched the first 2 eps and I don't have time for this shit in my life on the basis that 1 or 2 future episodes might be funny.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

Regular ILX posters acting like their time is too precious is a good one

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link

You can just say you hate something without pretending you’re too good for it

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link

I can ILX at work, I can't watch TV at work.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link

"pretending"? It's OK to not like bad stuff.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link

Tombot go and watch every episode of A Country Practice, then James and I will watch The Mandalorian and blog our reactions itt

Steppin' RZA (sic), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:55 (three years ago) link

I was just taking issue with how your post came across, like “life’s too short for this plebeian claptrap.” Of course it’s fine to dislike stuff.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:56 (three years ago) link

1,058 episodes ... from 18 November 1981 to 22 November 1993

this doesn’t strike me as a fair deal

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:57 (three years ago) link

Yeah, how dare you sully ILX's fine reputation with snobbishness!

xp

lukas, Thursday, 13 August 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

Yeah!

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 13 August 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link

Tombot go and watch every episode of A Country Practice, then James and I will watch The Mandalorian and blog our reactions itt
Quoting only due to my dn.

Ben Mendelsohn's appeared in both ACP and a Star War. You'd think there'd be more.

Vernon Locke, Thursday, 13 August 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

If I watch a comparable number of hours of A Country Practice would it count? You can pick the season, assuming I can access the episodes online. I’ll write my own summaries to prove I did it.

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 14 August 2020 00:22 (three years ago) link

looks like there's only 532 episodes currently online

Season 3 was all written by the creator though, so that seems like the best comparison to a season of Mandalorian

Steppin' RZA (sic), Friday, 14 August 2020 01:43 (three years ago) link

MOLLY DIES BTW there sorted it for u

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 14 August 2020 06:45 (three years ago) link

FATSO NOOOOOO

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 14 August 2020 06:52 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This is the day. New Episodes Streaming Oct. 30 on #DisneyPlus. #TheMandalorian pic.twitter.com/ZlJua6SEP8

— Star Wars (@starwars) September 2, 2020

chonky floof (groovypanda), Wednesday, 2 September 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

First look preview story, usual thing:

https://ew.com/tv/mandalorian-season-2-first-look/

Also, as has been noted, the opening paragraphs confirm Mr. Favreau is apparently not aware of torrents.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

Is he aware that his head is the size of a Death Star?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

Social media probably more likely accounts for the mural in France more than torrents, no?

“Pizza House!” (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

Doubtless but I refuse to believe people weren't finding all sorts of ways to watch the series then.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

So Fring gets to drive an AT-AT this time?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 8 September 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link

Trailer is out

"Wherever I go, he goes." Watch the brand new trailer for #TheMandalorian and start streaming the new season Oct. 30, only on #DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/0E3mtUcZO9

— The Mandalorian (@themandalorian) September 15, 2020

groovypanda, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

It's mentioned offhandedly in the EW article but, for those in the know, Ahsoka Tano (portrayed by Rosario Dawson) will be making her live-action debut this season.

Don't be such an idot. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

she's visible in that trailer, briefly.

pretty sure that tagline is a nod to 80s babies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41OcmwWfANU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 15:10 (three years ago) link

Lol

stoked

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

Really smart way to make it feel 'bigger' without changing much about it from what I can tell.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

she's visible in that trailer, briefly.

if you're talking about the hooded figure that's WWE wrestler sasha banks, not rosario

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

o rly? my bad.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link

it definitely sucks that Carano is a conservative dipshit on twitter

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link

ugh. that's a disappointment, i really liked her turn in Haywire.

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Man this is almost sneaking up on me! Second season debut episode goes live tomorrow.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Feels like a weird week to launch a new season of a major show, but I guess you can't stop... The Mandalorian!

Video Drama (morrisp), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link

Man, anything that can pull me out of election anxiety for even 30 minutes this weekend will be much appreciated, so I'm glad for the return.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

Are they doing this weekly again?

groovypanda, Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link

Yep.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

Tidy, thanks

groovypanda, Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

I've really grown to appreciate this show being weekly, since we watch with our 9 year-old and it's become a Friday night Mandalorian and pizza tradition already.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

yah i dont really care about the show much but its been fun getting into it with the kids.

Spottie, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

I mean, our son even got so into the making of series that he insisted we had to continue our pizza tradition when those episodes were released too.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:05 (three years ago) link

omg stunt casting

mh, Friday, 30 October 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link

that was... Good? a hokey nothing-much of a plot (ie a regular mandalorian plot) with really fantastic direction - felt there was a real sense of cosmic dread around the lair at the end and I found myself unusually engaged with the final shitfight

production quality felt a little higher

my kids commented that baby yoda didn't have anything to do but understood that he had to be onscreen providing regular cuteness regardless

umsworth (emsworth), Friday, 30 October 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link

With a little distance, I'm happy to announce my conclusion that this show is bad* and it's weird that so many people think it's not bad

*Taika-related jokes aside

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Amy Sedaris-as-Linda Lavin and other tone deaf “Special Guest Star” cameos drag this thing down but overall, no, it’s actually pretty fun and *good* when its on.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 30 October 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

I enjoyed the stunt casting as any fan of REDACTED would do, and it continues the western theme of the show, which is part of the draw.

I especially liked the discussion about how something that’s not a sarlacc ends up living in a sarlacc pit.

Agreed that the child’s repeated closeups felt a little silly when he had nothing to do with the plot.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 31 October 2020 02:18 (three years ago) link

we have spoiler tags now btw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 31 October 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

i couldn't stop laughing at our friend the big guest star's belt

Clay, Saturday, 31 October 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

Who was Leguizamo, the one eyed dude in the beginning.

for what it's worth, I don't like this show nearly as much as most people here, though good action scenes go a long way and I thought this episode was pretty good. And of course I'm down for stunt casting if the actor is good and appropriate for the role and is Seth Bullock

I thought Herzog was underutilized in the first season. He should be the big baddie, not Esposito.

dan selzer, Saturday, 31 October 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link

beginning?

dan selzer, Saturday, 31 October 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link

Re opening segment — yes, that was him.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 05:40 (three years ago) link

And this was very good fun. I appreciate the detail of the second Death Star blowing up and then immediately everything becomes awful.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 05:41 (three years ago) link

SPACE MARSHALL :D

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 31 October 2020 05:59 (three years ago) link

This wasn't in any way a break from the Mando formula, but very polished and enjoyable nonetheless. Hopefully the rest of the season will find some more varied narratives though. Are they all going to be an hour long?

chap, Saturday, 31 October 2020 14:20 (three years ago) link

I kinda have a feeling that was their big start to the season but we'll see.

I am convinced, BTW, that the setup of the cave and its immediate surroundings was a further movie/TV western nod writ large to the famous Bronson Canyon/cave area where god knows how many productions filmed over time. Even including the shots where people up on the ridgeline look down on the cave and the ground in front of it.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

This didn't feel an hour long to me!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

Another great A-Team in Space ep

(•̪●) (carne asada), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:35 (three years ago) link

But yes I think I was a little bit bummed that it was so "by the numbers," in many ways a rehash of the "train the pond-villagers to fight the AT-AT" episode. There are only so many of those I need.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

I thiiiink you'll find it was an AT-ST, aaaactually.

chap, Saturday, 31 October 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

lol

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 31 October 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKppwACQ-qk

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 31 October 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

It was ok, felt like a comic book for most of it, then got pretty good at the end. The final little tease was well done (I had read it was coming, but appreciated it nonetheless).

I didn’t think any of the guest stars were particularly good, but I don’t know what is involved at being “good” in this series. Some actors seem to get it right.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Sunday, 1 November 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link

A few other thoughts:

* I actually liked that the Child didn’t have much to do... IMO, it would seem too formulaic if he did some magic at the climax of every episode.
* I guess they’re gonna just keep on going with the multiple “I know that reference!” gags and lines, to remind you that you’re watching a Star War? The jet pack thing was kinda funny, but I don’t need more than one mention of Womp Rats per episode.
* How do you bet on dueling Gamorreans when they look exactly the same and don’t even wear different colored shorts? lol

Tim Simms (morrisp), Sunday, 1 November 2020 06:36 (three years ago) link

i could live without any more extended Tusken Raider dialogue scenes, it’s like listening to someone cough up a lung :/

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 1 November 2020 07:02 (three years ago) link

I guess the good thing with the callbacks is that they are subtle - there's R5 with the bad motivator, oh the ESB ice-cream maker, and so on. Fun if you know the reference, entirely out of the way for those who don't.

assert (MatthewK), Sunday, 1 November 2020 07:22 (three years ago) link

At the other end of that extreme, I totally failed to recognise the dude in the final tease and had to have it explained to me afterwards.

umsworth (emsworth), Sunday, 1 November 2020 08:17 (three years ago) link

I think I need that explained to me as well.

chap, Sunday, 1 November 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

It's Boba Fett

nashwan, Sunday, 1 November 2020 13:30 (three years ago) link

Ah, makes sense!

chap, Sunday, 1 November 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

I guess the good thing with the callbacks is that they are subtle - there's R5 with the bad motivator, oh the ESB ice-cream maker, and so on. Fun if you know the reference, entirely out of the way for those who don't.

We had decided not to bother with this show initially, because most modern Star Wars stuff is just bad, and I hate that Disney owns everything in the world. But I came into the TV room on Saturday afternoon and found husband guiltily watching it ("it's not what you think!") so I stuck around and we ended up mainlining the whole thing. I particularly like the fact that, as MatthewK says, you could easily watch it without ever having seen any other Star Wars property and you would still get it, but the little nods are fun and don't derail the main action at all. It might seem like damning with faint praise to say that the closing credits are my favourite part, but the combination of the music and the art gives me a great nostalgic rush of watching westerns on the telly and reading Star Wars comics.

If they start getting bogged down in the lore of the greater Star Wars universe and a load of Jedi dickery, though, I'm out.

trishyb, Monday, 2 November 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link

absolutely otm

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 2 November 2020 11:12 (three years ago) link

i love the closing credit painting/storyboards too!

Nhex, Monday, 2 November 2020 13:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah, great touch, and helps the series maintain its own specific tone.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Yeah, those concept paintings are gorgeous and I appreciate how it ties back to the pre-internet years when storyboard books and clips in magazines were one of the best ways to imagine the wider universe.

I thought it was a great episode. I mean, if we are going to nitpick the recycled plots, it's not like there was ever any shortage of Westerns (on TV and film) that were consistently leaning on the "stranger rides into town and ends up defending it" trope.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 2 November 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

Yeah, and the final big idea was so obvious that it took me a second to realize they hadn't planned it that way all along. But hey, so what. Yum yum, tasty Olyphant. Give me more, please.

trishyb, Monday, 2 November 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

I enjoy these breezy standalone self-contained episodes (though I'm sure we'll see a few characters come back later in the season). I know everyone's clamoring for more storyline action but this just isn't that kind of show half the time

Nhex, Monday, 2 November 2020 15:02 (three years ago) link

if we are going to nitpick the recycled plots, it's not like there was ever any shortage of Westerns (on TV and film) that were consistently leaning on the "stranger rides into town and ends up defending it" trope.

my 11 yo son started picking up on the formulaic nature of plots in Mandalorian and I had to explain that that was pretty much what you expected for TV drama in the old days..

Kung Fu
the Hulk
A Team
Knight rider
Littlest Hobo
all westerns ever....

My criticism of the series is that they will never move forward towards a resolution, and it'll be 7 series of Mando talking to a man, who tells him to get a key which unlocks a box which contains a map which shows where a man lives..who tells him to get a key, which unlocks another box.......

till people stop watching, which thanks to baby Yoda reaction shots every 5 mins will be never.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 2 November 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

Yum yum, tasty Olyphant

but it was Mando who got eaten ;)

Tim Simms (morrisp), Monday, 2 November 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

...is Littlest Hobo a real show?

Nhex, Monday, 2 November 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

yep!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

it’s about a dog not an irl hobo

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078644/

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

dogs are hobos too

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 2 November 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

I know everyone's clamoring for more storyline action but this just isn't that kind of show half the time

I've problem with self contained plot of the week, in face find it quite refreshing. I just would welcome a bit more variation between them... We'll see what this season brings.

chap, Monday, 2 November 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link

but it was Mando who got eaten ;)

Would've been snacked on by farming lady several episodes back if she'd had her way, too.

trishyb, Monday, 2 November 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

The Olyphant -trudging through the desert sequence called to mind the abandoned by Tuco sequence from The Good, the Bad & The Ugly.

TrumpPence a Bag (B.L.A.M.), Monday, 2 November 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link

I've problem with self contained plot of the week, in face find it quite refreshing. I just would welcome a bit more variation between them...

This is my feeling too. Less "another Western in space," more prison spaceship. Except not literally more prison spaceship, I mean more self-contained episodes as weirdly varying in tone from the series as a whole as the prison ship episode was.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 2 November 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

Courtroom drama episode with salacious crumb as suspenders-wearing southern lawyer?

Philip Nunez, Monday, 2 November 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

You joke but I'm pretty sure Clone Wars did that like 3 times

Nhex, Monday, 2 November 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link

We had a midget alien R. Lee Ermey type in that series, anything can happen.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 November 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

At the other end of that extreme, I totally failed to recognise the dude in the final tease and had to have it explained to me afterwards.

The same happened with me and my wife. I wonder if the makers of the series really expected the majority of the viewers to know who the dude was, or was it more like an Easter egg for superfans, since his identity will obviously be revealed in future episodes. Because in order to know who the dude was, you'd have to A) have seen the prequels in recent memory and remember what Temuera Morrison looked like in them, B) realise this is the same actor, even though he looked quite different in that short scene shot 20 years later, and C) remember that Boba Fett is a clone of the character he played in the prequels, so they would look alike. I can't imagine most casual viewers actually doing all that.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 07:52 (three years ago) link

Yeah, the reveal at the end totally went over my head.

Would have been a great moment if they'd made it slightly more obvious who it was. I think I've only seen AOTC once and that was in the cinema when it came out.
And it was only on subsequent reading that I found out that the character that Olyphant was playing is actually from one of the many SW books and that the Mandalorian armour he was carrying is BF's

groovypanda, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 10:15 (three years ago) link

I did figure out who the armor belonged to, because, you know, how many of such pieces are there likely to be on Tatooine?

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 10:19 (three years ago) link

I also did not know who dude at the end was, but I agree that they probably will make very sure we know all about him if they start properly including him in the story, especially given dialogue like "it's come back!" when the enormous dragon thing bursts out of the ground right where we can all see it.

trishyb, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 11:06 (three years ago) link

I had a hell of time explaining to my other half (who had a somewhat less Star Wars obsessed childhood than me) that the Mandalorian and Boba Fett are not actually the same person

chap, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 12:26 (three years ago) link

...and that Boba Fett is not actually a Mandalorian. I can see why she was confused.

chap, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

this continues to be a lot of fun! i really appreciate that the stakes and the emotional drama is kept in cartoonish check... the show doesn't want me to CARE about any of these characters and that makes it more easy for me to take it as the low-key, disney entertainment (tm) done right that it is. Favreau really has the formula down. Marshall Raylan Fett was a real joy.

i missed the "boba fett" reveal at the end entirely, not that it particularly matters at this stage. Working him into the storyline is a reasonable and good idea.

Glad I stuck around for the credits as I would otherwise never have realized that the bartender Weequay was W Earl Brown aka Dan Dority! Great thread here:

“What’s your feeling about a prosthetics gig? I know you’ve said you hate it,” it was my agent on the other end of the call.

My mind flashed back to my days of misery spent as the demon, Menlo, on the tv series, ANGEL. I had eagerly jumped at the chance...

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— W. Earl Brown (@WEarlBrown) October 30, 2020

"Jon is ready for rehearsals” In a daze, I am lead to my Mos Pelgo’s Cantina. There’s Tim. There’s Pedro. I look around, but don’t see the other actor I’m supposed to be working with. I stand behind the bar. For shits & giggles, I say to Tim, “you oughta pin that fuckin’badge to yer chest, you’re hypocrite enough to wear it.” Tim and I proceed to play out scenes from our old show. We get a few giggles from the HBO watchers. Jon walks on set, laughing “I swear to God, I love that show — I absolutely idolize Milch. We cast you first,” pointing at Tim, “when I said ‘hire Earl Brown’ I did not consciously think I was recreating your DEADWOOD dynamic, but here we are — DEADWOOD In Space… Okay, let’s rehearse” “Can we improvise and throw a few ‘Cocksuckers’ into the dialogue, as tribute?”

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 12:53 (three years ago) link

Can someone summarize the timeline/backstory related to the character at the end? We’re all confused at my house

calstars, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

Long long ago in a galaxy far far away, fanservice

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

So, there are a lot of variations covered in the novels and expanded universe, but just sticking with the movies here. Boba Fett was a Mandalorian armored bounty hunter that, in the original trilogy, was knocked into the Sarlacc Pit on Tattooine "accidentally" by a temporarily blind Han Solo, presumably left to slowly digest for a thousand years. He hasn't officially been seen in the movie/TV universe since (although his origins were covered in the prequel trilogy). At the start of the episode, the implication is that maybe Jawas managed to somehow scavenge his armor to sell to Cobb Vanth, but the end of the episode reveals he very much survived the Sarlacc incident.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

TY Jon

So the timeline of this series is after the orginal SW movie trilogy...

calstars, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

Yes, not sure this is a spoiler but it takes place about five years after the second Death Star blew up in Return of the Jedi.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:35 (three years ago) link

That is explicitly referenced in this episode!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link

Tbf they mention the aftermath of the Death Star II but did they say anything about the amount of time that has passed? Might have missed that.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

I mean, it might not be Boba Fett considering there were roughly eight zillion clones, although the non-Boba ones would be considerably older than him since he wasn’t fast-aged to adulthood.

Given the planet and this episode’s salvaged armor plot device, probably it’s just him

mh, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

They should have given W. Earl Brown more lines so I would have noticed that it was him!
https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-mandalorians-w-earl-brown-recounts-his-special-dea-1845549470

mh, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link

absolutely loving the pure joy in this tweet

The teamster pulls into the gate. Another person takes over and drives me onto the set….

Its Tatooine. I AM ON TATOOINE!!! HELL YEAH!!! FUCK YEAH!!!

I get out of the van. Right next to me — is a life-sized Bantha puppet. I touched it — A BANTHA!!! I TOUCHED A BANTHA!

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— W. Earl Brown (@WEarlBrown) October 30, 2020

mh, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

That's great!

It did bug me a little when Olyphant called the Weequay bartender "Weequay" instead of an actual name, but I wondered if that was a subtle commentary about when they'd call the Latinx characters in Westerns generic nicknames.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

Why are we using spoiler tags? Are ppl coming here before watching each episode?

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Tbf, so many Death Stars have been blown up over the years, it's hard to keep track xps

groovypanda, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 15:25 (three years ago) link

It would make a lot more sense honestly it was one of the surviving clones, as so many have been examined in Clone Wars (and from what I hear, Rebels) and the age of being ~60 yrs old makes more sense. Boba Fett should be in his 40s at the time of this episode, assuming it is him.

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

Oops, I mean, SPOILERS?

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

I was just following precedent when using the spoiler tags, since we have them now. Not sure how many that actually impacts.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

I actually agree that the spoiler tags should be used this close to the airdate, I goofed.

Nhex, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

Yeah, feel like it's pretty harmless within a couple days of a new episode.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

If it turns out to be a random clone, that's really dumb.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

Oh agreed, which is why I'm pretty confident that's actually him.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

FWIW, here's an article with the same "maybe not..." speculation. (It points out that the clonetroopers would actually be older, due to accelerated aging - unless this one figured out how to reverse that.)

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

i think three days of spoiler tags is appropriate; how's the thread feel about that?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

I agree! They're awkward

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

They should have revealed it was Al Swearengen instead.

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

perhaps sarlaac digestive juices have excellent anti ageing properties? xps

groovypanda, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

I didn't recognize that guy was supposed to be a clone trooper. I'll have ask the 8-year old superfan when he gets home from school if he figured that out.

o. nate, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

xp No, it's the other way around - assuming it's BF, the No-Prize answer for why he looks older than 41 is that he's had a rough few years. There's no scenario in which a Clonetrooper ended up in the Sarlaac (unless there's some mega-retconning going on)!

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

i'm gonna stop spoilering posts now: are we meant to assume that the sand dragon ate the sarlaac, as mando suggested, and that was Jabba's sarlaac and that somewhere betwixt lips and hips boba got out, got stripped of his armor and is now living as a ronin amidst the sand dunes?
brb, got some fanfic to write

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

I believe that is the implication, yes (he escaped in the OG/"Legends" canon as well, so it's not out of the blue).

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

(And seeing Mando survive digestion by a Krayt dragon, while wearing similar armor, helps sell the idea that Fett could survive the Sarlaac.)

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

i guess the open question is what's he doing out there? why did the tusken raiders not bring him up with mando when they were talking about finding help tackling the dragon? maybe they're scared of him as the ghost of the desert and he's a TUSKEN HUNTER as potentially evidenced by his carrying a gaderffii on his back?

NB: the gaderffii is among the dumbest of the SW jerry-rigged props/action figure weapons but it sure is easily recognizable

ooh, maybe Kelly Reichardt is directing the next episode as a mandolorian/first cow crossover and boba could be stealing bantha milk and selling tatooine frybread back to the tusken commander

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

lol, i know more about this universe than i would like to admit but it's all limited to the original trilogy

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

xp We may get some of these answers! If Fett has "gone native," he may just be another weird dude in the desert to the Tuskens, and not worth mentioning (their concerns seem more... immediate). They also may not know that Fett ever wore the armor, if he ditched it soon after escaping the Sarlaac.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

are we meant to assume that the sand dragon ate the sarlaac, as mando suggested, and that was Jabba's sarlaac and that somewhere betwixt lips and hips boba got out, got stripped of his armor and is now living as a ronin amidst the sand dunes?
I don't think the sarlacc the dragon had eaten was the same sarlacc that ate Boba. The marshall dude specifically said that a sarlacc never leaves its pit, and the pit where the dragon now resided was in a completely different location than the one in RotJ.

Tuomas, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

Yeah wait, I missed that part. Of course it's a different Sarlaac.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

gotta eat more than one sarlaac to get by my friend

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

(the script does a nice job of introducing the idea of multiple Sarlaacs with a throwaway line)

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

I liked when the raiders held up the egg at the end when they were harvesting the meat

calstars, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

sand dwellers love eggs

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

i think three days of spoiler tags is appropriate; how's the thread feel about that?

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses),

I kind think if you don't want spoilers don't open the thread till you've watched the episode, but maybe that's a bit harsh.

chap, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

Not an egg, though:

https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-season-2-krayt-dragon-pearl-lightsabers-explained/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

I mean sure an EASTER egg haha wait please don't kill me

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 20:51 (three years ago) link

I guess there are so many levels of in-universe references, callbacks, etc., that it's miserly of me to complain about the low-hanging ones that I do "get." That's just what the show is, for better or worse (but I hope the Obi-Wan series doesn't do the same thing!).

Tim Simms (morrisp), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link

I feel like the Krayt Pearl is a good example of an easter egg done right - a definite nod to the hardcore fans but doesn't distract at all from the storytelling and doesn't change the viewing experience one iota if you don't get it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link

that's an unfortunate typo

octobeard, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link

jesus, wow. sorry folks.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

put in a mod request to hopefully fix that.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 November 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link

I don't think any of the easter eggs have been too glaring in this - even if you didn't twig who that was at the end episode one, a mysterious scary looking bloke tracking Mando is still a decent enough cliffhanger.

chap, Tuesday, 3 November 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

It’s Rex y’all

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 01:33 (three years ago) link

I kind think if you don't want spoilers don't open the thread till you've watched the episode, but maybe that's a bit harsh.

we've only had spoiler tags for about 3 weeks, it's cool to use 'em for things that are a bit ambigious imo

@DennisTheePerrin (✔️) (sic), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

on another distant hilltop a second shadowy figure is observing the first shadowy figure observing the mandalorian

he turns to the camera

it is Jeremy Bulloch

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 09:15 (three years ago) link

never mind the Bulloch

@nightKarlMalone (✔️) (sic), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 09:25 (three years ago) link

...here’s the Sand People

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 4 November 2020 09:29 (three years ago) link

Very good.

chap, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link

Had to google Jeremy Bulloch, but I get the joke now. 😆

Tuomas, Wednesday, 4 November 2020 21:18 (three years ago) link

Baby Yoda's obsession with eating pickled eggs is the best thing ever, obviously.

pedantly admonishment (aldo), Friday, 6 November 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

You’d think he’d learn the consequences of his actions, but he really is an infant

mh, Friday, 6 November 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

I loved this episode except for the saved at the last minute from out of nowhere resolution to the spider problem.

chap, Saturday, 7 November 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link

I like the concept art with the nightmare eyes on the octispiders

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 7 November 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

I liked how they used both the droid and the X-wings as callbacks to the prison ship episode, each in a completely different way.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 7 November 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link

Opening three-minute scene of this one was so exactly what I want from this show I almost cried

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 7 November 2020 03:33 (three years ago) link

Lovely episode. Peyton Reed directed, the guy really does make it all work whatever he does.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 7 November 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

loved the episode <3

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 November 2020 06:18 (three years ago) link

sidebar this is very stupid but it made me lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBlBhpxW2P0

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 November 2020 06:25 (three years ago) link

It was kind of a weird episode, but I enjoyed it. (Felt maybe a little more sci-fi than Star Wars.)

And yeah, the opening bit was great.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Saturday, 7 November 2020 06:42 (three years ago) link

Is repairing a ship in a Star Wars RPG the kind of action that routinely succeeds without even a need for a dice roll?

Tim Simms (morrisp), Saturday, 7 November 2020 06:49 (three years ago) link

I had similar thoughts. Can you just get from one moon to the other on scrap plus a couple of engines? Really?

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 7 November 2020 07:14 (three years ago) link

mr veg remarked that mando is a pretty shit pilot, he crashes a ship almost every episode

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 November 2020 07:27 (three years ago) link

it’s charming how spaceships in SW are like old beater cars... but even when one is hella wrecked, a brief shower of sparks seems to restore the structural integrity to blast into & through space.

Tim Simms (morrisp), Saturday, 7 November 2020 07:31 (three years ago) link

Counter: Mando js a phenomenal pilot, he keeps all his passengers alive despite being forced to crash his vessel repeatedly

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 7 November 2020 07:33 (three years ago) link

lol fair

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 November 2020 07:53 (three years ago) link

What a weird ep. Frog lady seemed to come from a completely different show

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 7 November 2020 08:57 (three years ago) link

I did think it was a tiny bit odd that the main joke in this episode was “my baby eats your babies, ha ha!”

trishyb, Saturday, 7 November 2020 10:32 (three years ago) link

Did you know? The Spiders in #Mandalorian are called Krykna and first appeared as concept art from Ralph McQuarrie for ESB, and we used in Star Wars Rebels. #ThisIsTheWay pic.twitter.com/DXOAgbyUTq

— StarWarsSteveo (@SteveoWars) November 6, 2020

groovypanda, Saturday, 7 November 2020 12:40 (three years ago) link

Yeesh too much Amy Sedaris (again) but good episode

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

Dr. Mandible

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

actually GREAT episode what am I sayin’?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 7 November 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

spiders creeped me the hell out
fun and breezy episode. love the Henson-esque Frog Lady and i'm still endlessly amused by the alien-speak conversations

Nhex, Saturday, 7 November 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

yeah this episode was a lot of fun. also liked the muppety aspects to it.

akm, Saturday, 7 November 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

cthulhu snow-spiders from space were creepy af

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 November 2020 21:16 (three years ago) link

Spiders were maybe a bit much for children. Ah, well, I guess they need something to talk about on nostalgia shows in 20 years.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 8 November 2020 21:40 (three years ago) link

New episode was cracking. Very Starwarsian and some callbacks to the Clone Wars that have me looking forward to forthcoming episodes

I am using your worlds, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

Also the Child had some nice egg related character development

I am using your worlds, Friday, 13 November 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

Another A+ pre-title intro

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 14 November 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link

Great ep. BDH did a dope job

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 14 November 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

didn't love the spidey ep, but thought s2e3 with the roots mandos and calamari ppl was really fun.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 14 November 2020 06:09 (three years ago) link

Awesome episode!

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Saturday, 14 November 2020 07:00 (three years ago) link

(Someone needs to make a gif of Mando jetpacking off in the others’ faces on the boat — “PEACE OUT”)

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Saturday, 14 November 2020 07:02 (three years ago) link

Without getting too spoilery (within the 3-day window)—the Empire stuff was a v satisfying execution of Disney’s “make the OG elements a little deeper & darker” strategy... worked even better than Rogue One for me in that regard (at least on this smaller scale).

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Saturday, 14 November 2020 07:09 (three years ago) link

I appreciate this take

Star Wars has 50s diners and electronic 30s jazz and fish aliens wearing cardigans and 1890s former boom towns and absolutely shitty asshole robots and if you aren’t down to play in this space you have plenty of other options.

— Nolan “Void” McHorse (@HitlerPuncher) November 14, 2020

And yes, great episode.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 November 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

Genuine lol at the pre title sequence after some of the talk upthread

groovypanda, Saturday, 14 November 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

This sh1t is so much better than the new movies

calstars, Saturday, 14 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Fscking spiders 🕷 man

calstars, Saturday, 14 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

would sackhoff

mookieproof, Sunday, 15 November 2020 06:20 (three years ago) link

i've been watching this and finding its mixture of '50s tv serial, awww relationship between mando and yoda, deliberate genre and film refs, misfit, second-hand sci-fi universe low-key v appealing. sometimes it's *so* low key that i go 'ah this is just too airy', but then there's an episode like the last one, which i just through was... well brilliant tbh. as much as anything it was the depiction of Trask that really worked for me. That industrial port crane pulling his ship out of the sea was just a brilliant depiction of a science-fiction universe, and would happily watch a short documentary on cephalopod trawler culture. the bar was nicely done as well. a slightly rough place, but clearly welcoming enough for frog couple to know the owner and eat there sometimes etc.

i'm not *actually* worried about the sort of hole that says a mandalorian can pretty much threaten an entire sea/spaceport population with crashing his ship into their town and nothing and no one gets impounded or arrested, but an imperial freighter thinks twice about ascending before they've left the port area, and I *liked* that information, i would have liked to have understood more about Trask port culture as i say (and chowder recipes and mechanisms for getting into people's bowls) because what the episode did v well was imply it was all there.

also, unlike the opener, which i found pretty dull, the ship heist was sprightly and fun. just enough dark mythos undertow to avoid the slight endless side-quests feeling you get sometimes (and again are characteristic of 50s/60s tv serials).

clearly made by people who care about the universe they're depicting and the people... uh organisms in it.

Fizzles, Sunday, 15 November 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

This is just The Sooty Show in space now and I'm totally on board for that.

pedantly admonishment (aldo), Friday, 20 November 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link

Oh no, they said the M-word. Well, they said "M-count", which is almost the M-word. Ugh.

trishyb, Saturday, 21 November 2020 00:00 (three years ago) link

That’s a coincidence. 100,000 dollars is exactly the amount I charge to direct episodes of the mandalorian!

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 21 November 2020 00:03 (three years ago) link

I thought it was fun they gave Carl Weathers a shot to direct an episode. Also lol that as soon as Mando gets his ship fixed up he needs to go find a laundromat.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:24 (three years ago) link

We waited a few episodes to start in this season, so that we'd have a few, but finally just watched the first one. Pretty good! Good effects! Best of all, though, was when they introduced the Marshal, and I heard his voice, and thought, hey, it's Timothy Olyphant, that's hilarious, he's another Marshal! Then he took off his helmet and ... confirmed. And my daughter goes, wait, who is Timothy Olyphant? I rewound a bit and called down my wife, then let her watch the scene. As soon as he spoke she goes "It's Timothy Olyphant!" And my daughter goes, who is Timothy Olyphant?! And my wife says, oh, an actor we like who always plays Marshals.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

cool story bro

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 21 November 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

Carl Weathers directing an action-heavy episode worked well

That canyon bit seemed long but remained tense, good timing on when things failed, etc

The kid was great and more present, good work puppeteers

mh, Saturday, 21 November 2020 03:13 (three years ago) link

Carl Weathers directing an action-heavy episode worked well

Extremely good. I never look ahead to see who directs what episode so that why I can be surprised and damn, that was some of the best action-oriented Star Wars in general. Just enough clarification on what The Big Plot is too while still leaving it just unclear enough.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 21 November 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link

I think the Imperial base design of corridors with doors at each intersection makes it far too easy to imfiltrate. They need to go open plan.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 21 November 2020 09:47 (three years ago) link

I’ll be in the minority I guess but apart from the set pieces I thought this was a weak episode. Badly written, unbelievable actions from the characters, massive plot holes. I enjoyed the action but the rest was pretty dire. And I’ve loved the rest of the series for the most part.

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 21 November 2020 12:35 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I was a little underwhelmed. Lots of continuity errors too - just felt a bit lazy.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 21 November 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link

I’m still not sure how a “lava tide” works.

DJI, Saturday, 21 November 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

No I agree this was the weakest episode of the season. Dialogue extremely corny. I mean, it's Star Wars, the dialogue is *always* corny, but somehow the mark of a well-directed, well-paced episode is that you don't notice how corny the dialogue is; in this one I did.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 22 November 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

So many callbacks to the OG 77 shit, I loved the fuck out of this ep

calstars, Sunday, 22 November 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link

Yeah, found it very enjoyable. Stormtrooper fodder levels continue to be off the charts, love it.

Nhex, Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link

I enjoyed the episode a lot, but I realllllly wish I wouldn’t have followed it up by looking at Gina Carano’s Twitter feed for the first time... oof.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

Four people trying to make a quick escape - one in a full knight suit of armor, one in a whole body rubber fish suit, one is an old man, the last I would describe as quick, but not fast.

Also yeah GC has been hit in the head a lot

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Sunday, 22 November 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link

Flashy episode. Kinda filler, but if that “reveal” in the middle means what I took it to mean – it’s an awesome tie-in to the last movie.

(The girl with the Rey hairstyle was also a nice touch.)

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Sunday, 22 November 2020 05:36 (three years ago) link

Suddenly, instead of a random Western set in Star Wars world, the series is feeling like a very deliberate bit of connective tissue for the entire saga.

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Sunday, 22 November 2020 05:46 (three years ago) link

(By the way – this does not make up for the inexplicable fact that they apparently travel hundreds or thousands of miles to the other side of the planet in a speeder; then Mando later makes the return trip in a jetpack, retrieves his ship and the kid, and flies back... all in around 20 minutes of story time.)

down like 6:30 (morrisp), Sunday, 22 November 2020 06:21 (three years ago) link

this ep is 100% why i love this show
go to a place, shoot stuff, kill bad guys, force-compel cookies from kids, make some stormtroopers fall to fiery deaths, secret lab full of genetic experiments
what’s not to love?

and the 77 callbacks were sweeeeeeet af

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 November 2020 07:02 (three years ago) link

also i like how it’s mostly an “adventure of the week” show w a smattering of overall arc & i am deeply down w that

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 November 2020 07:03 (three years ago) link

feel like director Carl Weathers had a word with actor Carl Weathers about toning his performance width down by approx 45%, with good results

I guess maybe ithe episode overall was just a bit flat - but also really cool?

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Sunday, 22 November 2020 07:25 (three years ago) link

Not much going on in the episode with the snow spiders, but it was still fun (appreciated the nod to Alien), and looked great. I'm pretty impressed by the effects, particularly the way they seem to be designing their green screens/digital backgrounds to look like matte paintings, which is a cool retro application of state of the art FX.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 November 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link

Saw a cool behind the scenes on YouTube about how they do it. They’re not using green screens much but huge LED backdrops with benefits being how they can control the angle of the background and crucially how the light of the screens reflects off his armor (and anything else). It makes it more realistic and adds a quality to it and otherwise the green would be reflecting everywhere.

dan selzer, Monday, 23 November 2020 05:27 (three years ago) link

One thing that annoyed me: it was called The Siege and it didn't involve a siege.

chap, Monday, 23 November 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link

also i like how it’s mostly an “adventure of the week” show w a smattering of overall arc & i am deeply down w that


yeah i don’t know why i was dunking on it - i like it too! and it stops it being portentous.

Fizzles, Monday, 23 November 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

the gum-snapping lava tide line was so 77 OG that its nonsensical content was therefore necessary, because lol 77 OGness

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link

Otoh i want s2e1 and e3 over e2 and e4 every time. 🤔

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:08 (three years ago) link

We're all caught up now. The one with Katie Sackloff was fun, as was "The Siege" (though yeah, why was it called "The Siege"?).

Did I hear a mention of "M Counts?" As in, I assume, whatever those Jedi genes are called? Anyway, I wonder whose idea it was to lean off the mythology pedal and press down on adventure instead, since that's key to this show's success. Yeah, there are callbacks and hints at the big picture, but they seem to be there in service of a good time rather than some portentous soap opera plot line.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

You did indeed catch that "M counts" reference. I mean, if this has already been brought into the mythology for better or worse, at least it's a slightly more oblique reference.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link

By the way, neither of my kids have ever been particularly into Star Wars, but the one I've been watching this with turned to me and said "they should really train better Stormtroopers, these guys can never hit anything." On the money, second child.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

i think more stormtroopers died in this one episode than in the original trilogy

who didn't love the motorcycle chase starting with half of them dying off the bat

Nhex, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link

Wondering if a stormtrooper has ever got on a speeder bike and *not* died in the next couple of minutes or so

groovypanda, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:49 (three years ago) link

Well, at least now we know why not everyone carries a light saber, they'd all be cutting their own limbs off left and right.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

xpost really shows you that deregulation killed the Empire. they hadn't the proper license or training to drive those

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

OG77 lol at "it doesn't even have a guard rail!"

closed beta (NotEnough), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

My wife laughed at that, and I didn't even really "get it" at first!

It's pretty (wonderfully) absurd how they have to shimmy around to the dangerous side of that column to reach the control panel, for no reason other than standard Empire blueprints.

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

I am of the opinion that ‘siege’ refers to what comes next, not the ep itself

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:45 (three years ago) link

Oh no, baby Yoda has a name, and it sucks!

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 27 November 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

Haha. Great episode tho

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 27 November 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

any name they gave was going to not live up to expectations at this point

nice echos back to other scenes where it's decided whether a child would be trained

also, nice switch on who Ahsoka was asking the location of

mh, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

man that was a great ep - this season feels like it has really stepped up using inspired direction/design/atmosphere to compensate for the often insubstantial plotting - I don’t mean that as a diss in any way either, it’s a really compelling arrangement for a show like this

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Friday, 27 November 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link

Oh no, baby Yoda has a name, and it sucks!

For a sec I was all "Wait, they named him Roku?"

man that was a great ep

Really was and I wasn't surprised that was a Filoni script/direct effort, talk about tying in things to the animated side pretty thoroughly. And yeah that was an unexpected thing for me when it came to what the big reveal of what's being sought was.

Three left to go for the season, right?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 November 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

Stupid Mandalorian making me tear up at the end. Gah.

trishyb, Friday, 27 November 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link

I loved the panpipe Mando Theme as he walks up to sleeping baby Grogu. Lovely scene.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

yeah, music really excellent throughout

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:10 (three years ago) link

Gotta love a Yoda theme nod or two.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 27 November 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

btw, during the episode I kept thinking.. is that... Michael Biehn? And it was! Double the stunt-casting! Woohoo!

Nhex, Friday, 27 November 2020 23:36 (three years ago) link

was he sober? the cast of a show I was in once bought a Cameo from Michael Biehn, and he appeared to be in the middle of a bender when he recorded it.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:40 (three years ago) link

his line readings sounded a little impaired

mookieproof, Friday, 27 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

fuck i love this show so much

Rosario Dawson is a mighty warrior irl so it is v correct that she should be one here

Stoked about Michael Biehn! - dude has been in b-movie purgatory for too long, it was great to finally see him in a big-ticket show like this. I think the last good thing he’d done before that was Planet Terror in 07.

anyway gonna rewatch og 77 bc i am full of great feels for this kickass show

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:48 (three years ago) link

Feels like they’re setting up another big character reveal (for the season finale?), but I can’t imagine who it would be. Well, actually, I have a guess...

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:56 (three years ago) link

(Oh wait, that character’s dead already... never mind, lol)

yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 05:57 (three years ago) link

I refuse to recognize the name Grogu I’m still calling him Bartles and the shiny guy James I don’t care what anybody says

— Jason Isbell (@JasonIsbell) November 28, 2020

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:12 (three years ago) link

I like it cuz it sounds like “Grover,” so there’s sort of a deep Frank Oz connection.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link

Gordo

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 07:37 (three years ago) link

Gavin

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Saturday, 28 November 2020 08:58 (three years ago) link

For all my "Jesus, I hope we don't get bogged down in a whole load of boring Jedi bullshit" stance, the second I heard the lightsaber power up, I got a tingle along my arms. A function of age, probably.

An excellent episode. Obviously the name is a letdown, but oh man, when Rosario Dawson talked about things going dark for him when he was (presumably) being held and experimented on, and the revelation that his powers are shaky because he deliberately hides them to keep himself safe, well, that just broke my heart for the little chap. The cynical bit in my head is going "typical bloody Disney", while I'm trying not to cry at the fucking Mandalorian, of all things.

It also shows just how much he wanted those blue macarons.

trishyb, Saturday, 28 November 2020 09:48 (three years ago) link

Grogu the youngling who lived

Roz, Saturday, 28 November 2020 09:53 (three years ago) link

Typical Disney is right but in all the best (classic) ways. OTM post. This one hit so many things for me that are the best parts of the essence of SW past and current. And my heart broke for the little guy, too.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 November 2020 10:00 (three years ago) link

Stylistically this ep was a peak.

Easy enough to speculate that the Jedi that might respond to Grogu (how can this be a bad name?!) will be de-aged Luke although I guess it could also be Palps as Snoke or however that stupid idea might almost work

nashwan, Saturday, 28 November 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link

I was hoping his name was Minch

mh, Saturday, 28 November 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

xp probably not

going to be really sad if the coda ending text of The Mandalorian is “Grogu joined the new jedi academy at was later slaughtered by Kylo Ren several decades following our tale”

mh, Saturday, 28 November 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link

I don't get the emotional connection with Baby Google that others are having here but I appreciate the construction, the design, the acting, the tone and the state of constant crescendo. The initial novelty of being back in the star wars universe sans cynicism is waning under the weight of this season's consistent fanservice and integration of first trilogy history but they're mostly keeping it light enough that I don't feel the need to check a wiki. Considering the demographic they're trying to reach, that feels like a triumph.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

xp His absence in the new movies (which are otherwise “all hands on deck” in terms of surviving characters) does sort of raise the question.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

I think the whole series makes the case that there are just other stories/other people out there doing their thing on their own terms. If anything, the encounter with Ashoka -- pretty much on that path as well -- underscores it. Combine that with the fact that Grogu isn't going to be that much older comparatively by the time of the sequel trilogy and I'm good with it (because he's already 50 years old and still a baby).

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

That’s true, though the last movie gave a hint as to even Ashoka’s fate.

I thought this series would very much be an “other stories” kind of thing, but it’s being pulled by the Filoni centrifuge back into the core narrative again!

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

A pal (who’s more into this stuff than me) theorized that the next Jedi reveal may be Ezra Bridger

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

Would love an Ezra and Baby Groguda series with Rebels folks popping in

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

As somebody who has no knowledge of the Star Wars universe outside the main movies, I just want to attest that this series totally works if you treat all of what's apparently fanservice as "here's a new cool character."

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

^ agree. that’s where I’m at

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

also btw Elspeth Morgan was played by Diana Lee Inosanto - a great martial artist in her own right (who I first came to know as Buffy’s stunt double in the tv series) ... she’s also Dan Inosanto’s daughter & Bruce Lee’s goddaughter, so she has the ~receipts~

so ALL the cool kids came to the party this week

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 28 November 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

Thanks for that — I figured she had to be some big deal!

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

I have been excited seeing Mr Kim as an x-wing pilot.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

I loved this episode so much. Was anyone else stoked to hear Grand Admiral Thrawn's name?

cajunsunday, Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link

As somebody who has no knowledge of the Star Wars universe outside the main movies, I just want to attest that this series totally works if you treat all of what's apparently fanservice as "here's a new cool character."

Yes, this is me too. I appreciate the tone of the conversation on this thread, where I learn the connections, but there is no "do you even Star Wars?"

trishyb, Saturday, 28 November 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link

Sorta want gorgu to die anonymously and basically unknown, as one who was secretly superpowerful but horribly damaged. Lost to history because of weird circumstantial bullshit, but whose cryptosuperhits will be revived by gnostic hipsters. also, weirdly adorable and charismatic.

what?

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 28 November 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

Was anyone else stoked to hear
etc

You were definitely not alone.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 28 November 2020 21:46 (three years ago) link

I'm satisfied that they addressed my earlier quibble of—how come Yoda was training others at 100 years old, and Grogu is still a “baby” at 50?

Turns out he probably should be talking, etc., but has been traumatized by his ordeal.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

400 years

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:04 (three years ago) link

Yoda?

Around the age of 100, Yoda was ready to pass on what he had learned. Having attained the rank of Master, he spent the next eight centuries training and tutoring generations of Jedi. It was estimated that over his lifetime, he trained around 20,000 Jedi.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

i thought he says 400 in empire (im not debating i'm sure the internet is right)

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:19 (three years ago) link

I think he says “For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi” (and he’s nearly 900)

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link

RIGHT

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link

thanks for that info on Diana Lee Inosanto above

Nhex, Saturday, 28 November 2020 22:38 (three years ago) link

np!

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 29 November 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

Maybe Yoda was training Jedis for like 760 years and he just rounded up.

Ape Hole Road (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 29 November 2020 02:50 (three years ago) link

Still great TV, but I felt unsatisfied by this episode, probably because it entangled the ongoing story with the Not-The-Movies-Verse in a way that didn’t do justice to our latest character and just opened a lot of new unanswered questions.

1. Anybody who’s watched clone wars and rebels knows Ahsoka is capable of winning the duel with the magistrate in a walk, I mean come on.

2. Who saved Grogu (obviously a brand of scandinavian yogurt) from the Jedi temple on Coruscant? What happened to him in the 30+ year interim?

3. Mando’s quickdraw with the enforcer & his surprise droid would have been fun standing alone, but muddled together with Ahsoka’s duel it just ended up being overly predictable.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 29 November 2020 03:43 (three years ago) link

I imagine your questions in point #2 will eventually be answered. Agree the action was somewhat predictable and clichéd (and the dialogue wooden). It was a “good” episode in terms of meaty and consequential developments, but maybe not so much in how it actually played out (as opposed to, say, the episode with the aerial hijacking).

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Sunday, 29 November 2020 04:13 (three years ago) link

we don't need The Child's backstory after that point, frankly. not really interested in seeing medical torture flashbacks

Nhex, Sunday, 29 November 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

"mirror, hand me"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 29 November 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

lol just now realizing how different my experience of this show is from that of real star wars heads

pretty impressive that it seems to have (largely) appeased both factions

also y'all are incredible nerds

mookieproof, Sunday, 29 November 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

it's the MCU formula frankly. suck in diehard fans with lore but just enough to keep it comprehensible

Nhex, Sunday, 29 November 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

perhaps shirley. who knows

Nhex, Sunday, 29 November 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link

we don't need The Child's backstory after that point, frankly. not really interested in seeing medical torture flashbacks

Definitely this. It was bad enough when Adam Pally the stormtrooper hit him. I also think that too much backstory runs the risk of Mando becoming a side character in his own show, which I don't want. One of the things I like about it at the moment is that he drifts in and out of other people's stories, and some of the more Star Warsy people recognize some of those stories, and some don't. But Mando and Kid's forward motion is the focus, and I will be disappointed if that changes.

trishyb, Sunday, 29 November 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link

i think they’ll stick with that. the main appeal of it all is the relationship between the two.

and got the impression that that glance between baby yoda and the jedi at the end was a shared acknowledgment that baby yoda had told her with his “feels” that the mandalorian needed baby yoda as much as the other way round.

Fizzles, Sunday, 29 November 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link

After a few days to live with it, I find myself surprisingly ok with “Grogu”.

Kim, Sunday, 29 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link

I love it

Spottie, Sunday, 29 November 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

the terrorists have already won

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 29 November 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

Chatting with Rosario and Filoni about things

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2020/11/rosario-dawson-dave-filoni-mandalorian-ahsoka-tano-grogu

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 November 2020 14:00 (three years ago) link

I don't really see the big deal with "Grogu" tbh, I mean, "Yoda" is a pretty dumb sounding name too but we've had 40 years to live with it.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 November 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

It's no Yanno!

Nhex, Monday, 30 November 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

Yoda is much more euphonic than Grogu.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Monday, 30 November 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

Grogu will stifle giggles when a menacing figure steps out of the shadows and introduces himself as 'Boba'

nashwan, Monday, 30 November 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link

"After the tea." "What?"

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 November 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

My son absolutely geeked out over Ahsoka, lived up to the hype. I think I geeked out more for the mention of Thrawn, tbh, but I think Dawson did a really good job with the character.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 November 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

To find out more about why Ahsoka is searching for Thrawn, stay tuned for the entirety of Star Wars: Rebels on Disney+

mh, Monday, 30 November 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

Yeah, my deep-into-it pal had commented to me: "Filoni has this weird thing where he keeps turning his current show into his previous show. Rebels eventually just became an extension of the Clone Wars and now Mandalorian is becoming an extension of Rebels."

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Continuing plot threads, imo

mh, Monday, 30 November 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

If The Mandalorian was strictly a Filoni-led thing I think we'd have been there a long time back but he's only done one episode a season; Favreau is clearly the lead guy in this thing.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 November 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

Directing wise, sure, but I think Filoni has a stronger hand in this thing than that Ned. Considering his prominent place in the Gallery doc, he had more speaking time than anyone besides Favreau. I'm not complaining, mind, I don't think it's a bad thing to pick up these threads. I'd rather see Ahsoka than, I don't know, Poe Dameron's dad or something.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 November 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

"Yoda" is a pretty dumb sounding name too but we've had 40 years to live with it.

tbh one of my first memories of seeing a movie was with yoda, so it's not so much that i've grown accustomed to it as it is that I have never been without it!
"grogrü" on the other hand

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 November 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

my brother peeled baby yoda pic.twitter.com/JUj2kUGT8T

— nebula should have killed thanos (@gwenstacying) November 26, 2020

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 November 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

Gotta say, after watching The Vow, and Leah Remini's Scientology docu-series, all this Jedi talk about family attachments leading to fear/anger/the dark side reminds me a lot of cult behavior.

DJI, Monday, 30 November 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link

Given that I always thought that an unstated/understated theme of the prequels -- played out a little more in The Clone Wars -- was that the Jedi Order in specific was too wrapped up in themselves to realize what was happening, that's not far wrong!

Ned Raggett, Monday, 30 November 2020 23:12 (three years ago) link

that's why I loved The Last Jedi, that theme

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 November 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

Do any of the TV shows or books get into how the Jedi initiates were taken from their parents when they were very young? How did the parents react when the Jedi showed up at the door, talking about M counts, etc.?

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Monday, 30 November 2020 23:44 (three years ago) link

"Padawan Cruise?"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 30 November 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

The Jedi just explained to the parents how important it was to Clear the galaxy.

DJI, Monday, 30 November 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link

There is an episode with a bunch of force sensitive children who have been abducted. The idea that it was the Sith taking kids is met with “well this is bad, but...” *uncomfortable silence*

mh, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

Not to mention a certain darksider who was basically bartered away as a kid who becomes a major antagonist!

mh, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link

His Daddy Warbucks got killed within days of adoption, so...

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link

I thought this episode was really well done but I still wasn't always into it. It doesn't help when they establish Mando (or that Jedi, for that matter) as an unstoppable badass, but then end with an extended fight with the same people who were getting their ass kicked earlier in the episode (as well done as that fight was). Also didn't help that I know nothing about the cartoons, or books, or whatever; what I've liked about every episode so far was that they have not been particularly driven by myth, let alone plot, but this one seemed to be. And Mando must be pretty tired of hopping from planet to planet being told to find someone else. I honestly forget why he's doing this at all. Was it a favor for someone?

Again, well done! Just not what I'm into or hoping this show becomes. Oh, and I didn't even recognize Michael Biehn!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

otm, i think. i don't wanna know all the lore all the time, but it's nice if it's not obviously inconsistent with the lore upon further inspection. i just don't wanna be the inspector tho. that's for people who like, finish reading the silmarilion or whatever.

i kinda like the concept that he's a cultist, and obsessed with foundlings on principle, and a bit of a nutter, and that's sorta good enough for me. i mean no one is more perseverative than a nutter with principle/s, imo. that'll move teh story.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:24 (three years ago) link

Why not leave baby with Ahsoka, and do a few episodes where she plays lone wolf and cub for awhile before she realizes gorguts is cramping her style and now she has to track down mando who has somehow acquired more force toddlers?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:56 (three years ago) link

I did kind of roll my eyes when she was like, "Now you must go to planet Blah blah blah...". The constant planet-hopping is starting to feel a little repetitive.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

Her saying that seemed consistent to me, the speed with which he accepted it and flew the hell outta there was sorta convenient.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

I mean...episodic TV where characters go from one place to another, with a general goal that may get modified as it goes, and in each episode they help people with their Personal Problems along the way, is not unknown! And this is a series in a franchise where harkening back to various established forms of entertainment is constant! I'm not saying anything new here, I'm just surprised there's surprise about this.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

Ned otm, I feel like we've been so spoiled by the "prestige TV era" that we've already forgotten how formulaic TV could be, for better or worse. And considering that one of A New Hope's primary influences was the early serials, this is extremely on-brand. I don't mind it, since it's been pretty built into the series from the start it doesn't feel all that lazy or out of character.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

I get all that; it just seemed like the planet-hopping was less relentless in S1 (like he stayed on a single planet for a few eps. straight, or they mixed it up in other ways). Maybe I'm misremembering.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

Ned otm, I feel like we've been so spoiled by the "prestige TV era" that we've already forgotten how formulaic TV could be, for better or worse.

Also, for all the prestige TV claims for These, Our Times, worth remembering that the smash continuing series of the past two decades have been things like NCIS and SVU and etc. -- standbys, procedurals, etc.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

All of which may sound like I'm damning The Mandalorian with faint praise but if anything it shows how readily resilient the wider franchise is when it adapts to a slightly different but (per Hunt3r's point) far from unrelated form.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

Not so different from us driving a car place, is it?

They should have him visit Earth sometime

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

place to place*

i mean every stop seems to be a spaceport with a bunch of barren space around it. It's just not a very efficient galaxy.

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

I think it's not so much the constant motion as the string of characters specifically directing Mando to go to different planets; it's just a little funny. Like if every episode of Star Trek had ended with a rock-skinned or gloopy alien telling Kirk, "NOW YOU MUST GO TO... (ETC.)."

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

I don't disagree with your point, but it's really just a galaxy sized scale up of the old, "oops, actually the treasure isn't in this chamber here, it's actually in that one over there, across the moat" stakes raising, no?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link

Right. Kirk boldly goes, Mando just goes. This is the best illustration of the difference between Trek and Wars!

xp

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

It's the Outer Rim, it's meant to be empty and inefficient -- as Elvis Telecom said about the original film, non-special edition, he especially liked Mos Eisley as it was because it seemed more like Barstow than anything else.

Less ST maybe more Battlestar Galactica reboot (which, not the best comparison on several levels). I'm starting to think about it like The Fugitive in a way, endlessly chasing down leads while being pursued by assholes.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

All good points - I just hope the "What do I do with this kid?" storyline reaches some kind of resolution, or at least takes a long detour to mix things up.

meditate in my direction (morrisp), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

I think Mando pretty boldly goes, imo.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

he's gathering an army. in the hour of his greatest need, all these people he's helped will appear out of nowhere to save him, just like that joe biden avengers video

mookieproof, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link

lol

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

Certainly he confidently goes

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

place to place*

i mean every stop seems to be a spaceport with a bunch of barren space around it. It's just not a very efficient galaxy.


They need better Transit-Oriented Development

Ape Hole Road (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link

Whatever else happens I just realised I will probably pop hard if the Slave I actually shows up in the finale.

nashwan, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link

i think the appearance of macaroons in the last episode shows anything is possible here

maf you one two (maffew12), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link


All good points - I just hope the "What do I do with this kid?" storyline reaches some kind of resolution, or at least takes a long detour to mix things up.

― meditate in my direction (morrisp)

The standing comparison to an existing story is Lone Wolf and Cub, and I think the show’s going to run with that. There might be a change in the status quo, but “Mando and the kid” is pretty much the premise at this point

mh, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Would be cool if we could see some stories examining the complicity of Mando indoctrinating an innocent in a philosophical, hellish tale of revenge.
Sadly, probably not. Can you imagine?

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link

I love the charmingly episodic nature of the show, I just hope that it doesn't become episodic in service of a broader arc. It's the mythology that bogs down so much of the (particularly more recent) Star Wars franchise. The most refreshing aspect of this show has been that it's seemingly content to amble from place to place and situation to situation, and only gave cursory lip/fan service to the Big Picture. Regardless, it's not like this most recent episode was some big exposition dump or anything like that. It was still pretty low-key, which I appreciated. I just hope it stays that way, because every time they introduce or allude to some big bad I quietly think to myself, please, just this once, let's not do that.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

i completely agree with the Mando and the Kid assessment and direction but

episodic TV where characters go from one place to another, with a general goal that may get modified as it goes, and in each episode they help people with their Personal Problems along the way

made me realize this is just quantum leap in space with baby grogurt as Al

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

which is fine by me!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

smh at asohka tano's yaddle erasure

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

presuming that Jason Alexander will be voicing Yadayada in the season finale

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

Tano never made Yaddle?

Nhex, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Perhaps they can draw inspiration from the story arc of BJ and the Bear.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B._J._and_the_Bear

Kim, Friday, 4 December 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

Well, this episode. PHEW.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 December 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

everything happening at once!

mh, Friday, 4 December 2020 16:55 (three years ago) link

Honestly wasn't surprised at the end to see this was one of the Robert Rodriguez ones.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 4 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

super excited to see this because of that! i consider him one of the more underrated and underused directors of his generation.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

That was a lot of coolness packed in to less than an hour! Also - Yo! easy with that Stun setting you jerks!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 4 December 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

I found the fact that she wouldn't shoot the guys setting up the laser machine gun thing very frustrating.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 4 December 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

underrated and underused directors of his generation.

is this his first work-for-hire gig since The Faculty in 1998? (Third ever after Roadracers, which is an edge case since he wrote it) Presumably he could have been used plenty if he didn't prefer to do his own stuff.

huge rant (sic), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:25 (three years ago) link

let's say "underutilized" if it feels better to you

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

oh wait Battle Angel Alita! all his director-for-hire gigs are sci-fi.

huge rant (sic), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:27 (three years ago) link

utilised is the same sense I was taking it

huge rant (sic), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

as i understand it, he prefers to do his own stuff out of a desire for ownership/control; a large corporation willing to entertain his creative "eccentricities" could've made him as big as Nolan imo if they chose to "utilize" him more intelligently.
anyways my point is he is good.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

rewatched Four Rooms a week or three ago, The Misbehavers is still 🔥🔥

huge rant (sic), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:39 (three years ago) link

"... did they misbehave?" had me almost unconscious with laughter in the theater

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 December 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link

had a strong feeling when I put together my razor crest lego kit that the ship was probably going to get blown to smithereens before long.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link

I'm watching 2-6 rn

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:12 (three years ago) link

I like that "medium rare" exists as a cooking standard in all galaxies

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link

Weird the way mandi just left his sship completely unlocked with doors open and landing ramp down no matter where he went. Noticed in episode 5 that he landed on a planet he didn't seem familiar with and just walked away leaving ramp down as though there was nothing that might explore up it.
Not sure what he kept onboard though seems like mandi might be into austerity or asceticism. He also seemed to mainly stick to his driving seat do they sleep?
Just would expect dome off duty quarters considering his nomadic life. A bed at least even if just a bunk or cot or something.

Stevolende, Saturday, 5 December 2020 08:57 (three years ago) link

Boba causing an entire platoon of Stormtroopers to retreat in terror all by himself was pretty funny

chap, Saturday, 5 December 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

On the one hand, a bit more PERIL a bit too close to home for my liking.

On the other hand, Seven Samurai/Magnificent Seven potential.

trishyb, Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

i like OG SW being portrayed as "fast" by modern directors (cf fast Vader in RO)

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 5 December 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link

Compared to the half-speed saber fight between an elder Obi Wan and Vader, I'm glad they made that choice

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 15:55 (three years ago) link

Was that the first use of 'stun' since OG Star Wars

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

laura dern shoots oscar issac in SW8

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 5 December 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

Plenty of stun shots in various animated series too.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

Xpost ahh that's right

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

stormtrooper firing on the boulder right up until it crushes him was hilarious

“That’s So Stormtrooper”

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link

There were one too many "Ok kid lets go" - Mandalorian gets blown back moments.

Even a hamster is smarter than that

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link

lol! Yeah, you’ve gotta admire his sense of duty and love for The Kid .

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

Boba looks good for someone eaten by a sarlacc

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

To be fair to boulder stormtrooper gunner, he did reduce the boulder a lot...just not enough.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

someone got really good at wielding a gaderffii while on tatooine

mh, Saturday, 5 December 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

I didn't know if the focus on Fett killing storm troopers who are prone/unarmed was setting him up as a baddie, but I guess not.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 5 December 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

This may get too wonky for some but it's a hell of a grand unified theory, however retconned

Thread on the end of #TheMandalorian Chapter 14 and what it says about the restoration of liberal democracy under the New Republic (no major plot spoilers, but you should probably watch the episode first) pic.twitter.com/L4hE3fTDsJ

— Yes, You're Racist (@YesYoureRacist) December 5, 2020

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

Great thread!

DJI, Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

There were one too many "Ok kid lets go" - Mandalorian gets blown back moments.

Even a hamster is smarter than that


lol this followed by running really far away from The Kid mandi is Sworn to Protect.

Fizzles, Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

If only he'd remembered to put his jet pack back on, etc.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

xps come on. It's likely those prison sentences were just jokes the prop designers made knowing only just a few people would bother to translate from split-second screen grabs, rather than an intentional indictment of the New Republic...

Nhex, Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

xp yeah that was the clumsiest bit.

DJI, Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

xpost Thus my 'however retconned' point.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

last few eps really revved my engine.

it's also draw out the gatekeepery crowd ("y'see this is REAL Star Wars kidz"), but w/e...I'm enjoying the ride a lot.

Ahshoka Tano's appearance and finding out it was Rosario Dawson was a treat.

Michael Biehn seemed like he was in a different TV show, like...that seemed like a charity gig almost.

but the Magistrate Morgan Elsbeth was pretty badass.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

I didn’t like this episode too much

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 05:59 (three years ago) link

When is this set relative to the main film arc. I had thought it was earlier for a while but sounds like it might be slightly afterwards. Not sure what direct references there have been. Have seen pretty much all the main films but not the tv series related.

Stevolende, Sunday, 6 December 2020 07:29 (three years ago) link

It’s five years after Return of the Jedi.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 08:05 (three years ago) link

Every episode of The Mandalorian https://t.co/Azj3t5FIOa pic.twitter.com/Fm3rPwOmSj

— Paul Haine (@paul_haine) December 4, 2020

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 6 December 2020 13:24 (three years ago) link

someone got really good at wielding a gaderffii while on tatooine

And also somehow had the resources to give that sharpshooter a robot stomach(?), still has his ship, etc., but couldn't find a way to take his armor back from the other dude?

This was a terrible episode IMO, just a complete bummer. Awful script (both dialogue and “plot,” such as it was). The action was dumb and didn’t feel “Star Wars”-y, whatever that means (that force field? c’mon). It felt like a cheesy syndicated sci-fi series, but not in a semi-appealing way like a few those S1 episodes.

I hear that Robert Rodriguez was a "last-minute replacement" as a director, so maybe there were issues with the episode generally?

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

Hey guys, did you know “the Empire is back”? Yeah – a ship tipped me off, not the 30 Stormtroopers I just got done killing.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

So what you're saying is

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 6 December 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

any kleptocrat with their own stash of credits could hire a couple squads of stormtroopers and shove them in some appropriated dropships

takes some sway to have your own light cruiser

mh, Sunday, 6 December 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

the endless discussion about how all the details of an imaginary universe either mesh correctly or contradict other imaginary details is very modern. i'm guessing it's an epiphenomenon of the general conflation of science and religion in the secularized societies. the greek myths of gods and demigods are larded with inconsistencies, but the greeks apparently didn't notice or didn't care.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

you know what really chaps my ass, in space there is no sound. all of Star WArs is invalid

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

When you have those massive ships, with hundreds of guns firing, wouldn't even a very simple coordinated targeting be better than the tactic where every gun fires randomly?

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

I do enjoy the terrible security clearance system of the Empire constantly letting Rebels onto their ships with just a simple code and not much other verification

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:13 (three years ago) link

Touch ID and Face ID don't really work so great when half of everybody is wearing gloves and masks all the time

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

I’ve spent lots of time defending (good) Star Wars movies against charges of inconsistency, lack of realism, etc.; but this episode was not good, it was bad.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

OK

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

well fuck that changes everything

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:47 (three years ago) link

I didn't love this one either, apart from Boba Fett's scenery-chewing, that was great. Felt more or less like it had a lot of "get this character to this place" that had to get done and it took up most of the episode

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 6 December 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

I mean you guys obviously don’t have to agree with my take (and I’ll clam up now rather than continue to be a drag), but this isn’t a case of nitpicking on my part – the episode left me deflated and bummed out. I’m a fan of the show.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Sunday, 6 December 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

I like the Rodriguez shots where someone is jumping backward off of something while shooting toward the camera

mh, Monday, 7 December 2020 00:38 (three years ago) link

what's the upside of being a stormtrooper? is it just that you get regular meals in an uncaring universe or is there something else

mookieproof, Monday, 7 December 2020 00:47 (three years ago) link

One thing I liked about the Boba Fett hand-to-hand combat in this one is that it really makes you feel how cheap and plastic and splintery the stormtrooper armor is and brings home the way they're just cannon fodder to their Imperial masters, their armor there to make them feel valued but not actually very protective in practice.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 7 December 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

It's interesting thought cos this is pre-First Order, so these are Academy kids. Maybe a sense of pride and pleasing your far-right parents?

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 December 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

They’re not just leftover (adult) Stormtroopers from the Galactic Civil War?

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link

well I mean they had gone through the Academy, there's definitely not an active Academy as the Empire seems to just be remnants at this point.

so yeah probably just leftover Troopers, plus whoever showed up for work that day

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 December 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link

There do seem to be new recruits though, like the young assistant to the new Moff dude

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link

(Or maybe he’s not new, just not in the movies - I check myself)

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

it really makes you feel how cheap and plastic and splintery the stormtrooper armor is

this was already fully established by the ewoks, who vanquished many a fully armored stormtrooper using slings, arrows, stone-tipped wooden spears, stone hammers, and just plain big rocks dropped on their heads.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 7 December 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

and psychology

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 December 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

The mando “ok kid” stuff vs force field throw backs almost felt like an editing error - like they filmed similar scenes with similar dialogue only meaning to use it once, yet somehow we got all the takes.

Kim, Monday, 7 December 2020 01:54 (three years ago) link

lol it totally did

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 December 2020 01:59 (three years ago) link

Watching that, I was like – “I guess Mando’s never seen those ‘Definition of Insanity’ memes on the HoloNet”

(I know I said I’d clam up, but if you guys are discussing it... lol)

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 02:01 (three years ago) link

Storm troopers have like opposite armor, where any glancing shot or blow is a kill shot. They are playing the game on the insane difficulty level.

DJI, Monday, 7 December 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

Also I’d love to see the arcane calculus behind how many stormtrooper deaths equal one unmasked death, etc. when it come to trying to keep their TV14 rating.

DJI, Monday, 7 December 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link

Seriously though. That single episode featured more murders than the entire series of Hannibal.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 December 2020 03:47 (three years ago) link

I wouldn’t technically call them “murders,” but it was definitely violent.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link

Poll: is killing a stormtrooper murder vs is it okay to punch a nazi

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 7 December 2020 07:16 (three years ago) link

Most of the killings were in self-defense. Fett could probably be charged with second-degree murder for shooting down the retreating troops, but I bet a good lawyer could get it reduced to voluntary manslaughter.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 07:49 (three years ago) link

I always feel bad for Stomtroopers.

chap, Monday, 7 December 2020 10:00 (three years ago) link

Disappointing episode and riding entirely off the "finally, we get to see Boba Fett kick ass" sequence.

I always liked how Boba Fetts reputation was never really explained, questions not answers coming from the 'No Disintegrations' comment in Empire.

Now, it looks like he is just some Marvel universe bad ass, who is interchangable with 100% of all other comic book movie bad asses.

The only way this episode would be redeemed, if there was no payoff to the jedi pager, and no help ever came..

my opinionation (Hamildan), Monday, 7 December 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

Mandalorians are further explorations of what the bit part character mercenary/assasin Boba Fett were aren't they?
I don't have the lore on individual races etc in the Star Wars universe so I have missed the further expansions on what makes a Mandalorian what they are. Does Fett even have full body armour? Or is that something that came in in the books etc.

It's kind of weird if you have a this group of people are the group that this individual fits into when the introduction has been a bit of an outlier and has up to a certain point been the sole representative of that group that people will be likely to have encountered. I guess it is a bit of a trope though, may be why you have not encountered others of this type because the character that you meet is an outlier in having contact etc.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 December 2020 11:15 (three years ago) link

Mandalorians are further explorations of what the bit part character mercenary/assasin Boba Fett were aren't they?

Er, not exactly as Boba Fett is not a Mandalorian at all.

chap, Monday, 7 December 2020 11:22 (three years ago) link

If Georgie hadn't done all the stupid Jango Fett clone stuff in ep II I guess they could've retroactively made Bobba Fett just a rogue Mando, which would've been less confusing.

chap, Monday, 7 December 2020 11:24 (three years ago) link

Looks like that path to the creation of the Mandalorians did work backwards from having a character they needed a backstory for even if they added in convoluted sidesteps along the way.
Or did Lucas sit down during the creation of the Star Wars universe and write out a genealogy of the various peoples dotted around his universe prior to working out stories in a way I think I've heard JRR Tolkien did.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 December 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link

I think topography might have been a better word than genealogy, but basic pseudo scientific outlay of who is in the universe and where they came from and what motivations they have etc
Before introducing individuals from those people who have to interact in a story.
I think he was sketching things in and then giving them motivations for why, if he even did that later.

Stevolende, Monday, 7 December 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

Or did Lucas sit down during the creation of the Star Wars universe and write out a genealogy of the various peoples dotted around his universe prior to working out stories in a way I think I've heard JRR Tolkien did.

lol no

chap, Monday, 7 December 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link

when did clone troopers become storm troopers? are they all conscripts now or are some of them still leftover clones? is boba fett murdering a bunch of clones of himself?

i'm kind of torn on this one just because it felt so egregious to see boba fett finally use all the weapons that are part of his suit all at once

joygoat, Monday, 7 December 2020 13:32 (three years ago) link

egregious???? (in fairness we've been seeing those weapons used throughout the series/season, particularly that rocket, so it was kinda built up)

Nhex, Monday, 7 December 2020 13:34 (three years ago) link

“Lucasfilm is the biggest Kenner Playset a boy could have!” - Jon Favreau

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 7 December 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

mando's used all of his stuff but when I was a kid everyone was like "oh shit boba fett has a missle and hidden rockets in his knees and that periscope thing" but he never actually used any them so they remained the stuff of legend

joygoat, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

actually now that you mention it, i was like "rocket knees!?" when it happened

Nhex, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

doesn't sound very practical for your knees unless you have bionic knes opr soemthing does it?
Would recoil not be a problem?

Stevolende, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Re Tolkien: believe me he did not dream up a consistent universe first and then write it. A lot happened via random inspiration and revision of draft ideas.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 December 2020 14:26 (three years ago) link

I thought i'd heard he was more meticulous about back story than others might be, could be i couldf have picked a better example, but main point was about that semi randomness and the direction of fit of teh backstory. So the fact that he was less organised in that way might conceivably work in support of the point i was making.
Did think there was a direction of fit of how one went about world building taht he might be an example of one way of doing things as opposed to a more random I have to fill out a universe by randomly coming up with facts taht I want to project onto the individual that I see for a couple of minutes in a story. I mean that character has been filled out a bit more elsewhere and subsequently to his initial appearance and so on.

I was wondering about the clone thing with the stormtroopers too since i thought they had all been supposed to be interchangeable which might explain their disposability. BUt I think they have had more individuality. Plus teh feamle sidekick was either supposed to be one or the officer leading a bunch of them. I think.
I still don't know exactly what the events on Tatooine she was involved in are supposed to be
y had

Stevolende, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

That's what I remembered too, but then I just looked it up and Fennec was not in the Empire but another mercenary bounty hunter who had run afoul of the Guild, like Mando was in season 1.

Don't remember which Star Wars lore outlines it, but a) the Clones were not designed to live for very long and b) the Empire eventually decided they were too unreliable and replaced them with conscripts (actually this makes sense, considering Palpatine's plans)

Nhex, Monday, 7 December 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

Yeah, they’re not clones anymore.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

Rebels definitely shows a lot of the academy and shows 'retired' clones fighting for the Rebel Alliance

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

speaking of, on Season 4 of REbels and lord is it good

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

Gotta get in on that. Finally made it through Clone Wars just a month ago

Nhex, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

Not complaining here so much as making an observation(!) – but I do agree w/the comments above that this episode seemed to lose that balance between “fun stuff for newcomers / casual fans” and “deep references for true heads that you don’t have to worry about if you’re not one.”

It was wrapped up in Mandalore / Fett lore (including this newly introduced notion of Jango being a “foundling”); the idea of Boba more as the kid from the prequels (whom few may remember) than the cool bounty hunter dude; what-the-heck-is-a-Darksaber (and why should Grogu “remember” it), etc.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

Suppose you didn't know who Boba Fett was - I think you would understand that he was another displaced/untraditional Mandalorian, like Din is - one who's done questionable things and lived to tell about it. Not the same creed, but still believes in family, honor, regaining his armor, all that jazz.

Nhex, Monday, 7 December 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

I didn’t even realize that Jango’s armor and Boba’s armor were one and the same; and that Boba had just “reskinned” it somehow.

wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Monday, 7 December 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Beskar - the WinAmp of armor

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

Boba Fett is a simple man doing a job well

and that job is bounty hunting or whatever

mh, Monday, 7 December 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/07/arts/television/the-mandalorian-boba-fett-temuera-morrison.html

for you non-subscribers:

[q]How long have you been awaiting your opportunity to return to the “Star Wars” series?

There was a lot of stuff online about a possible “Star Wars” bounty-hunter film, and then I was watching all the new “Star Wars” movies coming out, wondering if they were ever going to do anything with Jango Fett. My agent and I had a number of discussions — when are they going to call me? But then I kept forgetting about it. In this day and age, they have a number of options. They could have called other people to play the part. They can go with a fresh face. They could have called the Rock. I felt so grateful that after all this time, something came to be.

What happened when you finally got the call that the series creator Jon Favreau and executive producer Dave Filoni wanted to meet with you?

I wasn’t even quite sure what “The Mandalorian” was about, but I kind of knew that Jango and Boba had their own Mandalorian history. At the time, I was in Los Angeles, meeting on another film, so I was pleasantly surprised to get the call. I actually got to the meeting quite early — I was so excited I got there about two hours early — and there were conceptual drawings on the wall. I saw an image that looked like me, and I said, I’m sure that’s me. But even then, I didn’t want to get too excited.

What did you discuss with them in that meeting?

I was just listening — I wasn’t discussing anything. I’m just nodding, going, yes, yes. Obviously they had their ideas about what they wanted to do, and they must have told me that they wanted me to play the role again. But I was so nervous that some of it was just going straight over my head. I was just going: “Wow! This is great.” It wasn’t until I got back in the car after the meeting that I went, “Is this actually going to happen?” But as you saw, it happened, all right.

Did they talk about his being a different, more seasoned Boba Fett than we saw in the early “Star Wars” films?

Yes. When we find Boba, he’s well-worn, and he’s been through a lot. He’s a survivor, and he’s weathered. Now it was time to find out more about what makes Boba tick. Is he more than just a simple man, trying to make his way through the galaxy? Is he tired of all the fighting? Is he tired of all the killing? The one thing I can relate to is, I’m quite a mature man now and things always change. Sometimes you’re in Hollywood, in all the magazines and newspapers. And sometimes you end up in the fish and chip shop in New Zealand, where all the old magazines and papers go. You’re old news. [Laughs.]

Did your makeup and costume also help you find the character?

I was doing that kind of background work — what’s this guy going to look like? What’s he going to sound like? — and while they’re applying makeup, I’m going, well, here he is. We did quite a number of makeup tests and I worked closely with the makeup artist Brian Sipe. When I saw some of the scars on my face, I thought, well, maybe he does talk a little bit gravelly. Maybe his vocal cords have been affected as well. Then you put the costume on and it gives you a sense of power. The costume makes you feel like Superman. When I put the armor on for the first time, it just felt right.

How did you want to incorporate your cultural background into the role?

I come from the Maori nation of New Zealand, the Indigenous people — we’re the Down Under Polynesians — and I wanted to bring that kind of spirit and energy, which we call wairua. I’ve been trained in my cultural dance, which we call the haka. I’ve also been trained in some of our weapons, so that’s how I was able to manipulate some of the weapons in my fight scenes and work with the gaffi stick, which my character has.

How were you originally cast in the “Star Wars” prequels?

I give praise to George Lucas who made me Jango Fett in the first place. We filmed in Sydney, so he used quite a few actors from New Zealand and Australia. It wasn’t long after “Once Were Warriors” that I met with the casting people of “Star Wars,” and I feel that’s the movie that launched me in Hollywood. It wasn’t a big box-office movie here in America, but people in the industry saw it, and that opened a few more doors for me, that’s for sure.

What do you remember about your time on the set of “Attack of the Clones”?

I just had so much fun. I think I might have been killing George because I’d be singing on set, playing around with the weapons and wearing the outfits. I think I had too much fun. But I thought, man, if I get another opportunity to do this, I’m going to really get into it and do the best job that I can.

Did George Lucas explain to you that you would end up playing all these other characters who were cloned from Jango Fett?

Even when I finished the filming process, there was still quite a bit of work to do — I would keep getting calls from George: “OK, I just need you in the studio to voice some more stuff.” One moment I’m the voice of this, and then another guy, and then Commander Cody, and then a whole elite strike force. Things just kept going and going and going, but I didn’t mind.

Do you often hear from “Star Wars” fans who felt that Jango Fett suffered an unexpectedly abrupt death?

Yes, well, I know the feeling. I ended up watching “Attack of the Clones” in Dallas, and I was so excited to watch it with this new Dolby sound at the theater. I was just starting to enjoy myself when I got killed. “Wow, this is good. There I am.” (pause) “But anyway.” My journey in “Attack of the Clones” was pretty short-lived. But that was a long time ago. Now I’m back again.

I’m sorry that you’re going to get this question a lot, but “The Tragedy” doesn’t address how Boba Fett survived his encounter with the Sarlacc. Has that been explained to you? And do you know how the character stayed alive?

Ah, no, I don’t. There’s quite a bit of loose ends, and I’m not one of those guys that knows too much about the actual history. The fans of “Star Wars,” they have better knowledge of, What’s happened? How can he still be alive? I thought he was stuck in this place? I can find out more on the internet.

Has there been any talk of your returning as Boba Fett, whether on “The Mandalorian” or other “Star Wars” projects — even a series of his own?

I’m just going to have to wait and see. I think a lot of it depends on how things go with this season, but I don’t really know. I wanted to bring everything I had to that [episode] and give them a glimmer of what I can offer. There’s room for this to go someplace. I hope I’m going to be included.

Are you hoping to team up with Baby Yoda at some point?

Baby Yoda’s probably the biggest actor in Hollywood at the moment, but I never got to work with him very closely or with the people who move him around. I was using him in a not-so-good way, as bait. But hopefully I’ll get to meet him and we can have a little bonding session.[q]

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link

consummate professional interview, there

mh, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link

the possibility of egregious knee missiles sets the tone

we can dance forever at covideotheque (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

feels: whole ep was very *pew pew pew BOOM pewpew*. i liked fett alright, thought the whole speaking rock needed a little less mystery about what was happening to grody, and yeah, less ridiculous, wooden "ok kid, let's go..."*BOOOIIIIINGG!* the bad guy was sufficiently cruel and hateful, poor grody. warden seemed a little to comfortable, would like to see her attempting to meet expectations in her job but hating it/feeling actual stress a little more. like, you didn't know she could have an earnest side, and there it is, but it is NOT HER. more clearly.

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

too

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

I liked the episode quite a bit, but it was basically catnip for those of us that tracked Boba Fett more through the Legends novels. I remember at even 8 being annoyed that he died so easily in ROTJ, such was the legend of "bad ass Boba Fett" on the elementary school playgrounds. As noted above it was mostly due to the brief glimpses we had in ESB and the awesome action figure, plus he had one of the cooler ships at the time.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

i always liked temuera morrison, probably stemming more from my irrational love of the star wars: bounty hunter video game than from anything he did in attack of the clones.

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link

there's a fucking Grogu Chia Pet lol

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link

I felt real stupid in this last episode cos literally saw the ship in the sky and said "hmm, that is just like Boba's ship" and then the Fennec Shand said she was saved by Boba Fett, and then Boba said his dad was Jango Fett and it was only then that I said OH IT'S BOBA HE'S ALIVE

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:29 (three years ago) link

haha

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

Now, the question is when you learned that the series The Mandalorian was in fact about the Mandalorian.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link

wait what

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:39 (three years ago) link

@Neanderthal: Same!

DJI, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

How was he tracking Mando, anyway?

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:53 (three years ago) link

With special care

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link

called the governor of every planet of every star system and asked if some really arrogant guy who wouldn't take off his helmet showed up and got everything destroyed

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link

He lifts it when he eats soup! They finally showed that.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 01:01 (three years ago) link

Wondered how he ate and performed other basic functions. Or does he sleep in his chair and eo on.
Not seen his face in the bathroom mirror so is he growing a s8kh like beard under the mask. Didn't see sleeping area or restroom on the ship so does he open a window or have a spider help him out with that.
I mean c'mon the public has a right to know surely.
& no shower unit must leave him pretty ripe innit.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 07:56 (three years ago) link

Maybe he got them nanobots under his armour keeping hair short and skin cleaned? & controlling potential passengers.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 08:23 (three years ago) link

He's a never nude

https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/dozens_of_us_arrested_development.gif

Roz, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 08:42 (three years ago) link

He doesn't take off hos armor when he shits

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

They actually did show the ship’s “head” in the first ep. (sadly).

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

oh did they, must have missed it.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I think my first comment in this thread related to it... I would happily have seen 9 more Star Wars movies, and 4 more TV series, without encountering a space toilet!

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Wiping with kyber crystal9

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link

gotta jet - bad case of the kessel runs

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:43 (three years ago) link

lol

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

The Miralaxt Jedi

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

yes...yesssss... let it FLOW THROUGH YOU

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

Rangers of the New Republic, a new Original Series set within the timeline of @TheMandalorian, is coming to @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/EMzFuiqdOs

— Star Wars (@starwars) December 10, 2020

Ahsoka, a new Original Series, starring @RosarioDawson and set within the timeline of @TheMandalorian, is coming to @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/jD8byvNvDP

— Star Wars (@starwars) December 10, 2020

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link

jfc how am I gonna catch up

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

And apparently seven or eight other new shows yet to be announced? Unclear if the "10" they referenced during today's call includes Mando or not.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

gotta try clone wars from the beginning AGAIN.

oh wait, it's a pandemic and I have nothing to do

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link

I've seen scattered episodes of Clone Wars before, but just started over watching it through from the start with my son. Digging it a lot so far.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

Warning you that the first two seasons are kinda dogs with some good points, but the show gets better quickly around season 3. By the end I didn't regret investing in it, though it took me years to finally finish it

Nhex, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:21 (three years ago) link

man, i have a hard time with shows like that. it's like making nachos and saying "well the outer layer is all feces and pubic hair but once you eat all that the bottom is really fuckin' tasty"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

is there like an ep guide for the essential eps of those seasons

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

this is the whole reason I've put off Babylon 5

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

That's why it helps to watch it with an excited 9 year-old, he gets so excited by the cameos and references that it still ends up kinda fun to watch, even during the slow episodes.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link

I fear massive diminishing returns.

chap, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:27 (three years ago) link

Guessing we need a new thread, hold on here...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link

Enjoy

Star Wars: The Disney+ Empire Strikes Again and Again and...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link

Think I'll stick with this and the Obi-Wan series.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:52 (three years ago) link

is there like an ep guide for the essential eps of those seasons

https://magicguidebooks.com/56-must-see-star-wars-the-clone-wars-episodes/

nashwan, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

thanking u

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

xxp Maybe the Acolyte thing too, that sounds interesting.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Friday, 11 December 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

why because it look intersting

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Friday, 11 December 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

That was...fine.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Friday, 11 December 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

Yeah, solid enough episode.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 December 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link

What, no Tangerine Dream soundtrack!?

Dan I., Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:51 (three years ago) link

there's still a sense of moral satisfaction when a show makes it absolutely clear that a guy is utterly terrible and should be shot only for him, inevitably, to get shot

what a ghoul

mh, Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

TPS reports, lol

Kim, Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:10 (three years ago) link

GOOD EP

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link

I'm surprised people seem kind of meh, I though on the level of pure Star Wars action this was maybe the best of the season! Fantastically shot and the ghoulish guy out-menaced Giancarlo Esposito which is no easy task.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link

yeah, that coda was pure cheese in a good way

mh, Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:48 (three years ago) link

HE'LL NEVER LOVE YOU

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link

the bit about how much he means to Mando </3

mh, Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:53 (three years ago) link

It was pretty sweet. Doesn't put the episode over the top considering there wasn't a single shot of Grogster

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link

I get the Tangerine Dream soundtrack I assume is a reference to Sorcerer...I came here to see if anyone was namedropping Wages of Fear. I quite liked this episode.

dan selzer, Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link

i've got a couple friends who i talk to about this show and I mentioned I thought the truck sequence was referencing an old french thriller they might enjoy and got some pretty hard eyerolls

Clay, Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:24 (three years ago) link

Was this the first appearance of tires in the Star Wars cinematic universe?

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:25 (three years ago) link

did they discover....America?

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:28 (three years ago) link

Dug this, good combination of set pieces and melodrama for me. 👍

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 12 December 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link

xp I was thinking of Wages of Fear too! Though of course the Tarantino refs overshadowed that pretty quickly

Nhex, Saturday, 12 December 2020 05:13 (three years ago) link

Just caught up on the first 7 episodes and I'm so impressed thus far. After the OG trilogy, Mando S2 is my next favorite SW thing. The first season had some bad episodes, and I see not everyone is hot on all the episodes this season, but all 7 have worked for me. Dawson is so perfect as Ahsoka - there's something about the writing and her acting that connects perfectly to the character in Clone Wars (haven't seen Rebels), even though so many years have passed. I thought the quiet moments between her, Mando, and the Child were wonderful

I wonder if there will be any lasting impact to Mando having to show his face

Vinnie, Saturday, 12 December 2020 08:44 (three years ago) link

lmao the Office Space reference was unexpected

Roz, Saturday, 12 December 2020 11:14 (three years ago) link

Id never seen ahsoka because not a cloner but i wish she dint have oompa loompa eyebrows

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 12 December 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

What do you get when your master's a Sith?
Was the proph-e-cy merely a myth?
When fate shuts a Windau, where can you turn next?
Can guidance be found in the Jedi text?

I don't like the look of it

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link

Nice to hear a non-British accent on a high-ranking Imp. For a moment I thought it was Eric Roberts.

nashwan, Saturday, 12 December 2020 13:27 (three years ago) link

for once I'd love someone with a thick Southie accent to be an Imperial leader

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

is this the first time we see a Star Wars "jail"?

lol at the ED-209-esque robot security guard

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

since when does a blaster "click"

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

xpost -- Nope: following the introduction pre-title sequence a prison planet is the very first part of Rogue One. (Also in The Clone Wars there's a few episodes revolving around a jail on Coruscant or featuring it.)

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 December 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

I keep forgetting

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

We're not in love oh wait

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 12 December 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

There's the prison Finn and Rose meet Benicio Del Toro's guy in in The Last Jedi too.

nashwan, Saturday, 12 December 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

Wow yea, duh!. Yea that was a silly question on my behalf!

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

This episode was not the best. What kind of secure facial-recognition-based terminal allows unknown faces (with a security token from a long-since-discharged criminal!) to log on and get the flight plans of its leaders? Also, the amount of people they are casually slaughtering each episode (and in this one, they were basically rightfully pissed-off villagers!) is getting pretty disturbing. There are only so many times Mando can cock his head wistfully after killing a bunch of people before I stop buying the tortured hero bit.

Is next week the finale? I'm looking forward to a kick-ass Grogu jailbreak.

DJI, Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

they were aiming for a TLJ-esque "is the Republic really that much better than the Empire??" bit right as the pirates were being killed, which tied into Burr's 'redemption' arc. didn't fully land given what we knew about Burr's character prior to this, but....

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

actually i was a little confused at that part - this was a planet the New Republic didn't know about, right? so how were they responsible for what was happening here?

Nhex, Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

I think Burr was pointing out regardless of the fact that it was an unknown Imperial mining colony, as far as the citizens were concerned, they were ruled by the Republican and their lives still sucked.

but I don't think it landed real well. seemed a bit tacked on.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link

a little bit, but i did like the general gist of that conversation and how far Mando was willing to go against his beliefs. and of course we knew by the end of the episode Burr was gonna go straight bad or good because of the show we're watching

Nhex, Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link

since when does a blaster "click"

lol otm

mookieproof, Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link

Yeah those little nonsensical moments like the blaster or the face scan that just serve the plot can be dumb but I guess I've accepted them as part of the package. Amy Sedaris's line delivery probably bothers me more tbh

Vinnie, Saturday, 12 December 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

She’s channeling Bea Arthur’s line delivery in the SW Holiday Special

mh, Sunday, 13 December 2020 00:23 (three years ago) link

I just see Jerri Blank

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 December 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

There’s a lot of “no sound in space” stuff in this episode - the major ones that jumped out at me was the TIE fighters strafing right along the course of the truck hauling the volatile chemicals, and the pirates approaching from the rear when they’d clearly been attacking the other trucks from the flank or the front - but it’s sci-fi TV! I am so used to that. I just want the overall plot arc to make sense, a reasonable amount of tension, and for the characters to make interesting choices. On that front this episode delivered IMHO.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 13 December 2020 01:40 (three years ago) link

Cool episode, enjoyed it!

Yeah the face scan made no sense, but whatever.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Sunday, 13 December 2020 06:40 (three years ago) link

(Why didn’t Bill Burr ask to be dropped off on at a slightly more convenient planet, lol? His plan is to wander down to one of those villages? They’re gonna think he’s an Imperial dude who survived the explosion, he’ll be in deep $#%*! “No, see, it was me who blew it up... honest!)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Sunday, 13 December 2020 07:18 (three years ago) link

I enjoyed this ep

honestly the only thing that bugged me is a thing that has always bugged me since I was a kid:

Slave 1 looks stupid

I have *always* hated that it lands horizontal & flies vertical, it looks like a fucking shoehorn crossed with a hairdryer & the flat plane makes no sense

it’s dumb & i hate it

THERE I SAID IT

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 December 2020 07:22 (three years ago) link

it looks like an elephant's head

huge rant (sic), Sunday, 13 December 2020 08:01 (three years ago) link

It might make more sense if we saw it vertical in space but horizontal under atmospheres. Other than that I won't hear a word against DUMBO I.

nashwan, Sunday, 13 December 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link

Slave 1 always gives me a mad nostalgia rush as I used to own the toy.

Why didn’t Bill Burr ask to be dropped off on at a slightly more convenient planet, lol?

I know, I'd probably rather be in prison than on my own in the middle of an alien jungle!

chap, Sunday, 13 December 2020 13:11 (three years ago) link

he's going to deliver an 11 minute improvised routine about how Morak sucks

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 December 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link

slave 1 is just a concept car of transforming spaceships, which are seen throughout the universe; instead of tilting the thrusters for VTOL it tilts the crew cabin inside.

the face scan is not for authentication of the user, it’s for non-repudiation (https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/6730/what-is-the-difference-between-authenticity-and-non-repudiation#6732) - a record keeping function so that anybody using the terminal can be positively identified after the fact.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 13 December 2020 15:58 (three years ago) link

the pirates are probably not from morak; the villagers we see are humans and the pirates’ motive seems to be controlling the empire’s access to rydonium so that they can extract fees for safe passage.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

boba fett’s ship is a streetlight with stuff tacked on

as in, that is what the original model was. a lot of the other ships were made via kitbashing, where you buy a bunch of scale model car, plane, etc. kits and combine them in novel ways. combined with random crap they also glued on

mh, Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

i read somewhere (dont rember where) that Slave 1 was actually modelled on a radar dish. ILM ppl noted afterwards that it looked like nearby streetlamps & then the streetlamp thing became lore after that.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

the crap was not random; lucas had very clear design ideas and shapes he wanted represented in each starfighter design.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:09 (three years ago) link

I stand corrected, inspired by a streetlamp according to a sketchbook and this former ILM (the company, not our board) guy

https://mattwallin.com/mattwallincom/2014/4/11/slave-1

mh, Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

I meant random crap as in the actual materials, not what they represent!

mh, Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link

also <3 at Joe Johnston being one of the creators of the sketchbook

mh, Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

but like, when you walk onto the ship when it lands as a passenger, do you lie down & strap in like an astronaut in a shuttle launch?

and the wind resistance/drag would be ridic

its DUMB

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

when you walk onto the ship when it lands as a passenger, do you lie down & strap in like an astronaut in a shuttle launch?

No. The tilting of the passenger cabin is actually shown in the beginning of this ep. The pilot and co-pilot DO strap in on their back though.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

strap in and strap on

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Sunday, 13 December 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link

I kinda can’t believe Bill Burr is like 52! What an age to be starting over on a nowhere jungle planet.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Sunday, 13 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

I dunno, he looks and sounds like an old man to me

Nhex, Sunday, 13 December 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

52 is the new 42 and is quite young

mh, Monday, 14 December 2020 00:30 (three years ago) link

he's five years younger than ming-na wen

mookieproof, Monday, 14 December 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

Which makes all of these people about the same age as Darth Vader if he wasn’t dead. Being a Sith Lord or a Jedi Master puts some fucking miles on you, I tell ya.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 14 December 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

xp yeah, but Ming-Na Wen is a goddamn immortal so... also they gave Boba some gnarly Mad Max-esque face makeup

Nhex, Monday, 14 December 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link

I had no idea I had tuned in to an episode of Narcos: Morak

calstars, Monday, 14 December 2020 01:19 (three years ago) link

lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 December 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link

oh jeez

mh, Friday, 18 December 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

looks like there's a quick scene mid-credits fyi, on this finale

mh, Friday, 18 December 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

ngl this episode made me feel things

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:13 (three years ago) link

so, are we to assume that baby yoda is eventually murdered by kylo and the knights of ren or...

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

murdered by the Knights of Hen Fap

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:24 (three years ago) link

End credits, not mid. Now that was something.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 December 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

choke. sniff. damn puppets and CGI and deep fakes making me teary.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

In re Neanderthal's hidden text comments: I will not stand for it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 December 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link

Anyway, BIG applause. Loved this series.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

xpost yeah I was thinking the same thing and my soul was outraged.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 18 December 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

Deep Fake Luke gave me young Rufus Wainwright vibes btw

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 18 December 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

There's no way that Baby Yoda isn't reunited with Mando by the end of the first episode of season 3, right?

DJI, Friday, 18 December 2020 21:35 (three years ago) link

First time i’ve not tapped thru multiple hiddens. Im startin to think theyre good not bad. 🤔

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 19 December 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

so what's the legal status of this sort of thing?

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2020 02:09 (three years ago) link

Dark troopers deploying to diplo

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 19 December 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

xbox cutscene luke was deeply underwhelming, though I salute the thought. Love the variant final music. Cracked up over fat Bib Fortuna. I was thinking they'd need to get Mando a baby wookie or something but I guess it's "Book of Boba Fett" time instead? I'm up for one more spin.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 04:57 (three years ago) link

there was a girl in my elementary school class whose last name was fortuna

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:02 (three years ago) link

idg why, given the ability to summon characters and actors across decades and galaxies, they would insist on using gina carono again and again

i guess she does add a certain jankiness, if much less so than giancarlo being such a wuss

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:37 (three years ago) link

All the imperials are fey. Gina carano has an enjoyable physicality, terfiness aside, which ill be charitable and chalk up to jock head trauma (ymmv)

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:38 (three years ago) link

something wrong w my eyes,
such moisture

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:44 (three years ago) link

I thought this was a terrible ending. Cool deus ex machina from the movies?? So wack. Couldn’t they let this be self contained? I’m so mad I wasted all this time on this show

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:45 (three years ago) link

i feel bad for u son

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:47 (three years ago) link

i’ve no complaints with her physicality, and admittedly she’s given nothing but ridiculous lines. but so is everyone else — she just can’t pull it off

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:48 (three years ago) link

plus they keep setting her up

that WOOOO when they returned from their raid with apollo creed was an insult

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:56 (three years ago) link

Usually you let the characters from the show be the ones that you know meet the challenge and defeat it ... this just made it all seem pointless. And undermined their relationship

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 19 December 2020 05:57 (three years ago) link

need a stormtrooper body count too

almost makes me miss the a-team

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link

xp indeed

i mean, i’m not above being fan serviced but jeez

mookieproof, Saturday, 19 December 2020 06:06 (three years ago) link

murder count was definitely over 100

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 06:18 (three years ago) link

i hate star wars and i liked this show until the last 10 minutes of this one. what a waste of time.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 19 December 2020 06:22 (three years ago) link

Those dark troopers are gonna be a real skank in the scud pie.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 07:08 (three years ago) link

Loved it, btw. I’ll take a deus ex hamill any day (and obviously that was always gonna be one of the potential options, once it was clear where they were going – but I didn’t think it would be handled this well).

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 07:12 (three years ago) link

the final trooper mow-down scene struck me as a tip to the Vader scene in Rogue One.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 19 December 2020 07:42 (three years ago) link

some folks on Twitter making that connection as well

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 07:59 (three years ago) link

I thought it was funny when Mando asked... “Are you a Jedi?” That deserves an array of Al Jaffee-style “Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions”

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 08:06 (three years ago) link

“No, I’m a cosplayer... this isn’t SDCC booth #2913?”

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 08:18 (three years ago) link

wasn't very happy about that deus ex machina bit.
THought he was effective though. & those black trooper thigies are quite formidable.
Is 8 a number that is turning up a lot in terms of series length. I think utopia which I'm also currently watching through has that number too.
Keep thinking of 10s so was slightly surprised when this was coming to a series denouement.

Is there a possibility of a Mandalorian without a baby yoda in, is he up to the task. Is next series going to be focused on the freeig of Mandalore. Like what are teh spinoffs of spinoffs possibilities.
Timothy Oliphant going to pop up in a new sci fi western show all of his own or anything?
I mean Star Wars teh gift that just keeps giving, double digits of SW shows at one time just must mean more to go around innit. The more the merrier.

Oh yeah just thought how loong is the conscious history of the Star Wars saga, is there much space for far pre or post the Luke Skywalker saga or is that pushing things.

Stevolende, Saturday, 19 December 2020 10:12 (three years ago) link

Likewise slightly perplexed at deus ex machina arrival at climax. Wrote many words here:

https://sickmouthy.wordpress.com/2020/12/19/some-thoughts-on-star-wars/

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 19 December 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link

There's no way that Baby Yoda isn't reunited with Mando by the end of the first episode of season 3, right?

Nah he'll turn up with new Jedi skills to get Mando out of a tight spot in the season finale.

On the one hand the show relies way to much on DEMs and last minute rescues and it was nakedly manipulative fan service and Luke's face looked like it was going to fall off every time he spoke but on the other I was whooping with a massive grin for the whole third act.

chap, Saturday, 19 December 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

I thought it was funny when Mando asked... “Are you a Jedi?” That deserves an array of Al Jaffee-style “Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions”


Eh, not as surprising as you might think given the last person he saw with a lightsaber explicitly confirmed she wasn’t one.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 December 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

One thing I liked about the final final bit was me going “That throne setup is pretty great, kinda Frazetta-does-Conan/_Princess of Mars_ stuff, wonder why I never made that connection before...” and then remembering that, duh, Jabba wasn’t in need of a throne.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 December 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

There’s an undercurrent of explicitly connecting all the non-film (cartoon, Disney attraction) material to the original trilogy so.. who would show up was kind of in the cards? I was still entertained, if kind of underwhelmed, by the reveal

Moff Gideon going from smug to scared when his BRILLIANT DARK TROOPER MASTERSTROKE failed was funny

mh, Saturday, 19 December 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

Boba the Hutt!

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 December 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

fwiw I'm 90% sure when Luke said "I am" that it was a callback if not the same recording as when he said "I am, like my father before me"

mh, Saturday, 19 December 2020 15:57 (three years ago) link

also, it's completely possible Grogu had met r2-d2 before! only just now occurred to me. we really need subtitles on that droid's speech

mh, Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

supposedly he has a foul mouth

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:01 (three years ago) link

undoubtedly

mh, Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

“It’s you! You little green frog eating fucker.”

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

also fucking lol at Bib Fortuna saying "maklunkey"

mh, Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:04 (three years ago) link

R2: u see the latest Masked Singer?
Grogu: yea, totally called it was Taylor Dayne

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

lol i didn't notice Maklunkey redux

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 December 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

for the most part loved this. great season overall. be hard for this show to climb from this, but looking forward to see what they try

Nhex, Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link

am i wrong in thinking that the episode coda suggests that we're done with Mando for next season and are now moving on to "the book of boba fett" in 2021?

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

Strong possibility. Especially since episodes are listed as 'chapters.'

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

which is not to say that Pascal won't show up in that series (along with obvious guest runs in the other dozen SW series) but baby yoda delivered to AI Jedi means that story feels like it's wrapped.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

Eh, not as surprising as you might think given the last person he saw with a lightsaber explicitly confirmed she wasn’t one.

I suppose... but it almost felt intended as a laugh line, after what we (and he) had just witnessed.

“No, I thought YOU were a Jedi! I need help fixing this lightsaber; it seems to be stuck on ‘Maximum Ass-Kicking’ mode.”

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

I thought this ep was fine but it somehow lacked.... payoff, both narratively and emotionally.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 19 December 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

That line made me realize how odd it is that in the SW universe there is advanced military tech but apparently zero media? Like how is dude not famous given recent events

Anyway, kind of glad I ended up disliking this as I can now safely ignore the coming decathlon of spinoffs. And it wasn't just the ending: every scene with Katee Sackhoff in it was super dire, and they abjectly failed at getting me invested in that laser cutlass

rob, Saturday, 19 December 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

I thought this ep was fine but it somehow lacked.... payoff, both narratively and emotionally.
It did for me too, because the show spent two seasons independently defining its vibe and its worth as a stand-alone adventure better than any of the main movies since Empire, and then they cravenly brought it back to the fold as a footnote in the boring travails of the Skywalkers. (And failed to learn from the cutscene level actor replacement disasters in Rogue). I’m still on team Hamill but Episode IX basically threw away any remaining interest I had in the “saga” and defecated on it.

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 19 December 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

The Darksaber definitely turned out to be a dudsaber! (And that weird thing about having to “win it in battle” – because why, and who cares? – was left unresolved)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Apparently there's a bit in Rebels -- still in the third season myself -- where the Darksaber IS given from one character to another, so.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 December 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

Yea, and in fact it's given to BO-KATAN

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Saturday, 19 December 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

the point re the absence of broadcast or narrowcast or anycast media as even a concept in this universe is now suddenly smothering every other possible observation in my head. i don't think much about that universe obv, so yeah, what is the deal?

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 19 December 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

All the build up for that? smh

calstars, Saturday, 19 December 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link

Wait, are you guys seriously saying that Disney is going to just say goodbye to baby Yoda and move on to some Boba Fett-as-gang-boss story? I could see it as a spinoff, I guess, but my level of interest in that story is pretty low compared to the awesome thing they had going with Mando and Grogu.

DJI, Saturday, 19 December 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

xxp They have broadcast media – but it had been taken over by the Empire, and only recently (as of The Mandalorian’s timeframe) newly de-restricted by the New Republic.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 19:57 (three years ago) link

I saw a bit that provided some clarity -- apparently something hit the rumor mill last month that a Boba Fett miniseries one-off was being planned, which would appear before the third season. So until I see something official otherwise I assume that's what's happening here.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:01 (three years ago) link

the problem with introducing janky looking 1uk3 5kyw41k3r is that he's gotta play a role if grogru and mando get back together. I'd almost rather they left it here and moved on. You're likely right that the cash cow of BABY YODA AWWWWWW means that they have to leave him as a major character on one of the upcoming multiple SW shows... but that might prove problematic without the lone wolf and cub dynamic because baby yoda is basically not much of a character at all! he just eats shit and looks cute and uses the force as a deus ex machina.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link

Xp huh thx morrisp

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link

Yeah without pretending to know anything about The Big Franchise Plans, as I muttered earlier in this thread, the episodic TV model is far from unknown and I was happily set to think they'd get the little guy back, maybe have Gideon just die, and have the big reveal -- since they clearly dropped a note about that earlier -- be Thrawn instead, with season 3 being more adventures etc. etc. The route taken fits within what they set up but I admit I was getting pretty happy with where things were going; as it stood with last week's announcement of the Ahsoka series I was all "Ah, well, probably not Thrawn then, they're saving him for that." (Which leads me to wonder how heavily they'll choose to lean into Ezra Bridger possibilities or not.)

Should also say at this point that The Franchise is about to finally launch The High Republic series of books/comics/etc so keep a bit of that on your radar.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

if i wanted to read the tea leaves, I'd guess that disney wants to catch lightning in a bottle a few more times and, once they establish those other franchises (or if they don't), we will go back to lone wolf and grogu in 2022 or so.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link

I think the kid has served his purpose, but who knows.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link

oh he certainly has. But money!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 19 December 2020 20:52 (three years ago) link

I will say that they totally wasted Esposito here

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 20 December 2020 06:55 (three years ago) link

his battle with Mando and immediate change from arrogance to pants-pissing fear when our Deus Ex Machina shows up was great!

Nhex, Sunday, 20 December 2020 06:58 (three years ago) link

lol at everyone killing literally everyone else they see except giancarlo

mookieproof, Sunday, 20 December 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link

giancarlo should’ve grown out his mustache a bit more for optimal twirling

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

i don’t think i mean this as an insult but his campy OTT-ness reminds me of a human villain in a muppet movie

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Sunday, 20 December 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link

They should’ve switched it. Herzegovina should’ve been the big boss.

dan selzer, Sunday, 20 December 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

Can we get Dolph Lundgren as a heavy

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 December 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

the hair and mustache made me want moff gideon to break into 'minnie the moocher' or 'reefer man' at any moment

joygoat, Sunday, 20 December 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link

Just noticed my typo.

dan selzer, Sunday, 20 December 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

nu Star Wars could stand to have a lot more muppety feeling stuff imo.

Kim, Sunday, 20 December 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

it's time to shoot our blasters
it's time to smite the Knights

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Sunday, 20 December 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

his campy OTT-ness reminds me of a human villain in a muppet movie

This is OTM – and not just due to the way he plays it, but also because he was almost literally kidnapping a muppet!

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Sunday, 20 December 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

the hair and mustache made me want moff gideon to break into 'minnie the moocher' or 'reefer man' at any moment
lol me too

calstars, Sunday, 20 December 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

...have you guys seen Fresh? Great movie.

Nhex, Sunday, 20 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

Mando: “I know you can tell me where Escobar is hiding. Now speak up!”
Moff Gideon: “Have you tried my fried chicken?”

calstars, Sunday, 20 December 2020 17:47 (three years ago) link

How badly do I need the next SW movie to have Force Ghost Obi-Wan and Force Ghost Yoda in the Waldorf and Statler roles

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

haaha yes

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

also until last night reading here it thought his name was "moth" which was great somehow

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

the hair and mustache made me want moff gideon to break into 'minnie the moocher' or 'reefer man' at any moment

― joygoat, Sunday, December 20, 2020 7:31 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

CGI Jake Blues docks via retired police cruiser. CGI John Candy orders orange whips for everybody at the bridge.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:04 (three years ago) link

They all breath a sigh of relief until Jake's former fiancee arrives

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

I didn't hate this. I don't understand why people do. It was nice to see the high ceiling of a jedi's powers and the disparity with mando's own when fighting the robot trooper. It gave purpose to the whole endeavor. Up to then, mando seemed to be just as good as a jedi. Someone even hired him to kill one.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:12 (three years ago) link

Yes, and it reinforces that these are secondary Star Wars tales and the 'Episodes' really are the main story.

chap, Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link

It really did feel like the first time I truly appreciated what it means to be a Jedi, in terms of combat skill.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

(and also what makes a lightsaber so special)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

have you seen the prequels?

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

Yeah, but it never registered the way it does here. Maybe because they’re filled with Jedi slicing & dicing thru droids like butter (from the very first scene of Ep. I). The contrast here had real frisson, as Sufjan said.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Sunday, 20 December 2020 21:53 (three years ago) link

It really did feel like the first time I truly appreciated what it means to be a Jedi, in terms of combat skill.

Yes. So causal the combat was, like tai chi in the park on a Sunday morning

calstars, Sunday, 20 December 2020 23:30 (three years ago) link

It was right up to the edge of being a bit much but I confess I enjoyed the Force-crush of the final Death Trooper.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 00:24 (three years ago) link

Great observance! I love that. Read someone else point out that the force crush thing is totally a dark technique and it emphasizes how Luke never really went full Jedi.

Kim, Monday, 21 December 2020 00:45 (three years ago) link

also possibly part of the motivation for "are you a jedi?"

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

"I'm going to do exactly the same thing as a Force choke, maybe even worse, but it's OK because you're a droid" - hmmmmm

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

Luke would be a damn good breakfast cook, force lifting the eggs into place over the grill and then gently force crushing the shells

calstars, Monday, 21 December 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

toast via light saber proximity

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link

You do get the idea that everyone in this universe lives off of bar food, soylent and/or campfire rotisserie

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

"I'm going to do exactly the same thing as a Force choke, maybe even worse, but it's OK because you're a droid" - hmmmmm

Never forget the first thing Luke does in ROTJ -- walk down the hall of Jabba's palace, get blocked by two guards and then immediately Force choke the shit out of them.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 December 2020 01:17 (three years ago) link

Does he? Hmm. So complicated that one.

Cloud city seemed to have fine dining options, just saying.

Kim, Monday, 21 December 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link

You do get the idea that everyone in this universe lives off of bar food, soylent and/or campfire rotisserie

except sarlaccs

Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 21 December 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

xpost "We would be honored if you would join us. Uh, anyway, Boba and I already ate and we're not really thirsty."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 December 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

Jedi Order got too woke for its own good before the fall of the Republic, new Jedi making up rules as they go along

“I wasn’t feeling hateful when I did that, I was just solving a problem”

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 01:35 (three years ago) link

"I dress in black for a REASON." *plays My Chemical Romance B-sides*

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 December 2020 01:38 (three years ago) link

Upon reflection, how did they not end with:

Din: Hey, kid.

Grogu stops and turns back. Din reaches into a pouch and pulls out the metal ball knob from his former ship.

Din: Catch.

Din tosses the knob at Grogu. Grogu uses the force to bring the knob to his hand. Din smiles while fighting back tears. Grogu gives an approving nod before turning around to leave.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 21 December 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

Another nice touch was showing the Bespar spear getting red hot at the touch of the Darksaber - that really added to the tension of the fight.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 01:48 (three years ago) link

xp no, Din keeps the ball to remind him of the child - like parents keep their kid’s favorite stuffie to remind them of when they used to read stories together.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 01:53 (three years ago) link

I do think the subject of food in Star Wars is interesting. A pal once remarked that it tends to elicit slight disgust or revulsion in the characters onscreen (even when they’re eating it).

On a basic level, I tend to wonder “when do they break to eat?” during these breakneck adventures.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

a long time ago and far away metabolisms worked extremely differently

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 02:03 (three years ago) link

Ending was fine. My one lol was "how the fuck does a laser gatling gun jam ffs"

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 21 December 2020 02:22 (three years ago) link

I imagine it’s like when the AA batteries get jostled in your remote.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 02:26 (three years ago) link

The guns aren’t actually lasers anyway, they shoot blobs of stuff which certainly don’t travel at the speed of light. Seems like they need whatever stuff Chewie carried around in his bandolier.

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 21 December 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link

I had kinda decided those were snacks

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link

It was nice to see the high ceiling of a jedi's powers and the disparity with mando's own when fighting the robot trooper.

Yep. I've been watching Clone Wars (because of Mando) and I liked that Luke's skills matched up with what we saw there too - Jedis just single-handedly taking down entire droid armies.  

Roz, Monday, 21 December 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

Jedis should be less violent and just destroy their opponents psychologically

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

That was sorta the lesson of both Return of the Jedi AND The Last Jedi but people keep forgetting

Nhex, Monday, 21 December 2020 05:17 (three years ago) link

that’s more Hutt territory imo:

“if you don’t do what I say, I’ll make you look at my naked body while I eat live animals”

“also I might feed other actual people to my pets during the meeting”

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:18 (three years ago) link

I guess there’s still a strong element on violence there but it’s mostly just chewing

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:19 (three years ago) link

they should be less violent because of how much damage they can cause when they do get violent is the entire story of darth vader iirc

Roz, Monday, 21 December 2020 05:36 (three years ago) link

He broke a lot of dishes

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:39 (three years ago) link

And by dishes i mean younglings

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:39 (three years ago) link

I thought Anakin’s weakness came from fear/hate/jealously whatever? The Jedi do lots of violence in the prequels, they just have chill mindstates.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:50 (three years ago) link

Anakin's weakness was a dream that Padme died in childbirth so he solved it by assuring she died in childbirth

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:52 (three years ago) link

Anakin’s root weakness was from attachments (to his mother, to his lady friend) which then led to all his other feelings of insufficiency, which led to hate, anger, etc

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:54 (three years ago) link

RotS really just an allegory for "self-fulfilling prophecy"

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 December 2020 05:54 (three years ago) link

I can't remember Ahsoka's exact reasoning for not training Grogu but then hooking him up with Jedi Tinder. It was too dangerous, but maybe some crazy jedi will do it anyway? And then it won't be dangerous? Or it will still be dangerous but not her fault?

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:01 (three years ago) link

Or she knew Luke had mastered his own shit and would have to train Grogu but also didn't want to give Mando Luke's cell directly bc maybe Grogu ain't Luke's type?

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:02 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I think she said something like she couldn't handle training him but maybe a Jedi master could.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:04 (three years ago) link

maybe Luke talked to Ahsoka on the "surviving Jedi Zoom" and she mentioned he came by and Luke said "great, how's the training going", and she said "oh I'm not training him, it's too big a risk" and Luke said "the fuck? you just let him go?" and Ahsoka asked him to stop questioning her decision making and he said that it's every Jedi's job to question decision-making and Ahsoka asked 'well what the fuck does that mean' and Luke said "that when a Jedi does something patently stupid, other Jedi should call them on it" and Ahsoka said Luke was being toxic and Luke said 'just tell me who had Grogu, i'll find him' and farted and left

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:06 (three years ago) link

in reality tho he summoned those Jedi on that mountain and I guess that made them know where he was after he got kidnapped or something, like a Jedi GPS

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:08 (three years ago) link

Ahsoka was saying his attachment to Mando presented the same liability I mentioned just now - which is also demonstrated by the moment in season 1 when he chokes Cara for arm wrestling Mando - but she gives him a tip just to fulfill her part of the deal and make the kid somebody else’s problem.

Ethics are tough!

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:09 (three years ago) link

see that is my point. It seems like Jedi move should have been something like kill mando and sign Grogu up for macaron classes.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:13 (three years ago) link

Jedi are always making mistakes

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:13 (three years ago) link

If Jedi didn’t fuck up a lot then there would be none of this

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:21 (three years ago) link

You’re like my wife when we try to watch stuff about spies. I always have to remind her that if this was about competent intelligence professionals there’d be no show

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:23 (three years ago) link

I want to watch a Chef's Table for Jedi

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:25 (three years ago) link

just Jedi flawlessly making great decisions in slow motion to Vivaldi

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link

but Patriot is fantastic, too, yeah

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:27 (three years ago) link

“here’s master cecchini demonstrating how he just cuts up the whole space cow with his lightsaber and doesn’t add any seasoning and yet his guests still love it”

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 06:31 (three years ago) link

Just watched this again (my wife had been doing something productive on Friday night, and wanted to see it now). It’s so good.

A nice detail is how the clone scientists guy’s ear is visibly singed the next time you see him, after Cara Dune shoots it off (guess that guy just stays in the shuttle for the rest of the action?).

One thing I don’t get is how the dark troopers seem to have trooper babies when they’re out floating in space... there couldn’t have been more than 20 of them originally.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 07:02 (three years ago) link

The shots of the TIE fighters being deployed were also pretty awesome.

I’m intrigued by those transparent ray shields(?) which just sort of keep outer space out, but stormtroopers can fall to their deaths through them and the dark troopers can breach them from the other direction. Feels more sci-fi than Star Wars usually gets, but I imagine there’s a precedent somewhere.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 07:07 (three years ago) link

Using weak shields to keep atmospheric pressure is definitely a thing - I wasn’t surprised by it, but you’d need a poster with the eidetic memory of sic to find the specific Clone Wars / Rebels episodes where it’s shown.

There were definitely at least 36 Death Troopers in that chamber imo. “Platoon” (as Gideon calls it) is a flexible measure of unit strength but wiki says it’s usually 50 and can even be 100. I was in the air force, we didn’t use the word platoon except to describe things we were going to transport / drop munitions on.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 07:18 (three years ago) link

Agreed about the TIE deployments - a fun little thing about this show is all the ways they’ve shown the practical logistics of the universe at smaller scales. There’s no huge fleets appearing out of nowhere or AT-ATs showing up like they got teleported to the surface, everything is explicable (and usually explained, visually) within the confines of a couple of camera shots.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 07:25 (three years ago) link

What I’d like to see next is the Star Wars equivalent of when a medium-sized military vessel runs up against the SW equivalent of a tanker or a container ship - commercial fleets run so much more tonnage than militaries IRL and we’ve only ever seen relatively small cargo ships in all the content to date.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 07:30 (three years ago) link

a fun little thing about this show is all the ways they’ve shown the practical logistics of the universe at smaller scales

Very true / interesting point...

My wife thought it was rude that Mando didn’t bother to give any tips to the others on the bridge, when they were preparing to face the Dark Troopers (“Go for the neck area!,” or whatever). He really clammed up there.

Actually, considering he was in possession of the fabled Darksaber, maybe they would’ve had a fighting chance? It’s not clear to me how powerful that weapon actually is (beyond the fact that it obviously cannot cut beskar, but neither can a regular lightsaber I guess).

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 07:40 (three years ago) link

He could’ve cut through a handful of them but then one would break his arm off at the elbow and the “fighting chance” would be lying on the floor while they all got shot up and/or beat to death. It’s pretty clear you need to bring some Force shoving and lightsaber deflection game to a Death Trooper party.

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 07:55 (three years ago) link

It’s funny how I keep capitalizing Force in these threads when I wouldn’t ever think twice about putting god or jesus or buddha in all lowercase all the time. Dumb gen X silliness

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 08:03 (three years ago) link

need an episode on the second hand market for modified retired sw shipping containers

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 08:08 (three years ago) link

I was going to say I’d go for a Wolf Hall style eight hour miniseries where people just talk about the political relationship between the Jedi order and the government of the Republic but yeah Wire Season 2: Star Wars Edition would be cool too

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 08:23 (three years ago) link

eight hour miniseries where people just talk about the political relationship between the Jedi order and the government of the Republic

iirc they already did this

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

oops never mind

assert (MatthewK), Monday, 21 December 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

Jumping back to the conversation about season 3, the post this morning on the official Star Wars Instagram account strongly implies Book of Boba Fett is a wholly unique series and there will still be a Mandalorian season 3 next fall as well.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link

To be clear, the Instagram post doesn’t imply anything about Mandalorian, but rather officially announced Book of Boba Fett as its own show.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 December 2020 13:55 (three years ago) link

Would be a strange decision if they drop The Mandalorian after two seasons and they ask audiences to forget Baby Yogurt et al. Then again...attention spans are easily satisfied with new and everchanging content nowadays and Disney are gazillionaires, not me. Whadda I know?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 21 December 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link

Mandalorian S3 already confirmed isn't it?

groovypanda, Monday, 21 December 2020 14:16 (three years ago) link

Is it? Guess I missed the news! Never mind.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 21 December 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

Yeah, according to IMDb there’s a season 3, thought it was announced already.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 21 December 2020 14:25 (three years ago) link

I assumed the Boba Fett thing was season 3. We'll know soon enough I guess.

silverfish, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

Favreau clarified it on Good Morning America today -- The Book of Boba Fett is a separate series, and production on S3 of Mandalorian follow after they're done with production on this new one. So third season will be sometime in 2022.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 December 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

People disappointed with the finale: what other possibility was there once the baby cast Jedi summon?

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

I’d go beyond that, even – what other possibility was there from the beginning (other than neverending Lone Wolf & Cubbing)?

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Well there was a part of me that did very much want that neverending-until-it-did arc just because I loved the sweet dynamic between the two. The small moments throughout both seasons are pretty amazing, but in turn that helped sell the parting all the more.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

the darksaber stuff made me think we were headed for darksaber-powered-up mando kills the troopers. season ends with mando healing in a hospital. The doctor just got blood test lab results -- mandochlorians! mando trains Grogu himself.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

Yes i guess they could have held this off a year. Thanks above for clearing up the Mando vs Boba shows. What's next for Mando, go and become king of Mandalore?

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

Mandochlorians! Yeah ok screw you, Luke!

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

season 3: The Mandalorian Jedi

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

What's next for Mando, go and become king of Mandalore?

Well if you want to go really dark(saber), note that the Boba Fett teaser demonstrates that 1) Fennec got off the ship meaning 2) Boba came back to get her. Ergo, once the debt had been paid because the Mandalorian got the Child again (and then immediately gave him away), Fennec killed everyone else just standing around on the bridge with a thermal detonator and scooped up the darksaber and went off to do crimes with Boba Fett. Perhaps I am wrong.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 21 December 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link

Re: The Book of Boba Fett

The series will be executive produced by Favreau and Dave Filoni, along with helmer Robert Rodriguez, who directed the thrilling Chapter 14 (“The Tragedy”) episode in season 2.


Oh noes

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link

Fett will walk right back into a sarlacc pit, like mando and that force shield

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

That actually happened in an old comic!

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

what other possibility was there once the baby cast Jedi summon?

baby yoda is the DARK JEDI foretold as too powerful to handle his powers and the jedi must put him down rather than let him live and now Mando and grogurt are on the run from everyone is how i break it down to an extent

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

i dunno, i'm not emotionally engaged with the Mandalorian. it was a good time! maybe they'll do something okay with it in a year! in the meantime, there's literally a half dozen shows based on this general formula on the way so I'll try each of them once or twice to see if there's any juice left in that orange.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link

you were looking for the Mandarinian

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

extra pulp

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

that Dark Jedi idea could still work!

Are any of the announced shows a more predictable place to show Luke's story from here to his life of despair on an Irish rock?

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link

I don’t think so

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

otoh the state of his face probably means we're not seeing much more of him on Disney+ anytime soon

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

I really wonder whether de-aging deep fake tech will ever get past the point where we say “oh, weeeiiirrrrd” every time we see it

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

Wild hey. Could it have been better if they shot with Hamill and de-aged him with makeup and computers? That's a thing isn't it? I thought the main reason for the Rogue One stuff was cuz those actors had passed

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

once the baby cast Jedi summon

i thot grodo didn't want nothing to do with none of them jedis, i figured he was just tryna catch up on his holosnapchats

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

I think the weirdest part to me was that his lips just barely moved? Did he take a shot in the face in Return of the Jedi?

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

xp Probably he got lots of stuff done

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

my kid at approx age 11 sat through all of rogue one without noting anything about faux Cushing, maybe if you know they’re based on real old/dead people it’s insurmountably weird but otherwise fine?

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

Cushing easily the best one so far though.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

maybe if you know they’re based on real old/dead people it’s insurmountably weird but otherwise fine?

Yeah that’s probably a huge part of it

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

faux Cushing was surely a little uncanny valley but mando luke was obviously done on the cheap and just sucked. Woulda been better imo to get a lookalike actor who introduces himself as "Skywalker... Luke Skywalker" so that they could write young luke into this universe without the tech issues... i WANTED that jedi to be Luke! I was hoping! Then he took down the hood and it was a real uuuuggggghhh moment.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:36 (three years ago) link

SITH CLONE

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

I am hoping Baby Yoda is no more than an infrequent side character in the future. If this series has taught Disney one thing, it's that with the right people in charge new ideas can stick and reignite the imaginative sense of wonder the original series was so good at. Rather than continuously milking things, keep adding new things! But perhaps this is wishful thinking.

octobeard, Monday, 21 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link

Also given what Parker and Stone are doing with deep fakes fake Luke could have been done way the fuck better

octobeard, Monday, 21 December 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link

so boba wasn't wearing his dad's armor in that last scene

mookieproof, Monday, 21 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

Woulda been better imo to get a lookalike actor who introduces himself as "Skywalker... Luke Skywalker"

This wouldn’t have worked due to vocal Hamill fans and other reasons, imo

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

The blurry halo of these effects is terrible.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Monday, 21 December 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link

They’ve established that Han and Lando can be played by other actors, but the last movie had younger Luke & Leia (in this same time period)... don’t think they can go against that trend, at least for a long time.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Monday, 21 December 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

woh woh woh, so apparently that was actually Hamill's head lol

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/12/jon-favreau-explains-luke-skywalker-mandalorian-scene-hamill-on-set-1234606005/

Similar to Robert De Niro in “The Irishman,” Hamill filmed Luke’s “Mandalorian” cameo on set and VFX technology was used to de-age the character.

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 21 December 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

man it looked terrible

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 December 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link

Deepfakes on YouTube of both Tarkin in Rogue One and Luke in this look far better imo

nashwan, Monday, 21 December 2020 23:22 (three years ago) link

I thought it looked better than previous star wars fakes lol

mh, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link

it did, granted. still weird. like even the Luke deepfake can only do so much because the original face animations are so stiff

Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 04:17 (three years ago) link

Woulda been better imo to get a lookalike actor who introduces himself as "Skywalker... Luke Skywalker" so that they could write young luke into this universe without the tech issues...

It would have been great if they did this and then in the next season we find out that this is actually some sith dude impersonating Luke Skywalker

silverfish, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 16:40 (three years ago) link

I dunno, the Sith might not take the Rule of Two that seriously but they certainly seem bound to only wield one color of lightsaber

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:42 (three years ago) link

Lotsa couches got coated in cum when our mystery character flashed a green saber

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

gross

Nhex, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

Is that what blue milk is

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link

Anyway there's some sort of making-of for season 2 dropping I think on Christmas itself; won't be a series like the previous one, probably since all the basics had been discussed already.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

I would watch another hourlong dive into how The Volume works though

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

Imagine if they could track your head and make it into a very expensive single-person holodeck using dynamic perspective.

DJI, Tuesday, 22 December 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

Finally caught up with the last couple of episodes. Some of it was kind of dopey - too much dark this and dark that - but there were some solid laser fights, and nice genre nods to everything from Wages of Fear to nu-Battlestar Galactica. Didn't care about the look of youthafied Luke when in the end he's still acting against a puppet, a robot trashcan, and a variety of Boba Fetts of different bents. Did find the terminators silly, and even my daughter commented how every bunch of baddies (stormtroopers, terminators, space pirates) seemed to come in never-ending waves. We thought it would have been hilarious if they just left the Dark Terminators floating in space, and some future Star Wars thing could have a ship flying around and run into them.

"The sensors are warning there's an asteroid field ahead!"

"Those aren't asteroids ... those are Dark Terminators!"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link

Their batteries would be dead by then. Would have been cool if their jet shoes drained too much battery, and they took turns punching the door until they died so that only a few were left to fight.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link

I would have liked Mando to offer Luke a small but key piece of aid or advice during the Jedi battle sequence, just so as not to be completely useless.

chap, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

Hamill's voice performance was more disappointing than digital putty face, considering he does a pretty good Harrison Ford...

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:07 (three years ago) link

I wonder if they even tried to post-process the Wolverine out of his vocals...

Nhex, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link

I'm shocked Mando didn't give Gogurt that metal ball as a parting gift.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

Also, Luke really should have been all "baby Yoda!!?!!?"

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:11 (three years ago) link

The two had already communicated via that magic pillar of light, so Grogu's species probably wasn't a surprise.

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:14 (three years ago) link

Eh, I'm sure they bonded adorably once they were off camera and Luke didn't have to pretend he was cool.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

Ok I finished this, and actually I was fine with deepfake Luke, but I have low standards for sfx.

Other than that it was still pretty dumb & bad, but I can accept at this point that it's just supposed to be an oddly violent live-action kid's cartoon. Cool that people like it and they're making a million more of them I suppose.

change display name (Jordan), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

That's sort of the Marvel model, especially early on. Lots of killing, no blood.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link

ballard’s criticism that the massive casual violence (including genocide) is a big problem with star wars remains true.

one of the virtues of the mandalorian is that it showed a somewhat politically equivalent and scrappy system, including imperial remnants and went some way to humanising stormtroopers - their armour looks scrappy and a bit unclean iirc in the first episode, and they’re jumpy, and boba’s caving in of a stormtrooper helmet was quite effectively and it seemed to me deliberately humanising (it was quite a lingering shot) - there’s a skull in there basically.

so to use them so consistently as polystyrene pew-pew fodder is not v appealing tbh.

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 December 2020 08:00 (three years ago) link

I guess everyone’s pretty accustomed to seeing stormtroopers blown away like that (which doesn’t make it cool) - but the screen in s1 where mando sniped half a dozen Jawas just to send a message was a real WTF moment for me when watching with kids!

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Thursday, 24 December 2020 08:52 (three years ago) link

*scene

the least famous person you were surprised to discover (emsworth), Thursday, 24 December 2020 08:53 (three years ago) link

yes, it's a rather moralistic argument to make, and seeing people zapped is fun! ofc mandalorian and original star wars is v much a western. don't want to finger wag, but i do remember watching star wars again relatively recently and really feeling the casualness of 'let's zap an entire planet' and got it a couple of times in the mandalorian as well.

Fizzles, Thursday, 24 December 2020 08:58 (three years ago) link

Thousands of Gungans died in Episode 1...and for what?1

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 24 December 2020 11:05 (three years ago) link

No Blood for Kyber!

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 December 2020 13:00 (three years ago) link

I'm shocked Mando didn't give Gogurt that metal ball as a parting gift.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, December 23, 2020 4:10 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

the ball went up in flames with the rest of the razor’s crest :(

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 December 2020 13:09 (three years ago) link

i could swear he did manage to save the ball for him

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 24 December 2020 13:13 (three years ago) link

-the Lance Armstrong story

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Thursday, 24 December 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

He did save the ball. (Not that ball.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 December 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link

Mando -- has only got one ball!
Grogu -- has two but very small

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 24 December 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link

when baby yoda becomes a sith, he’ll find the burnt out husk of that ball, put it on display, and speak to it like kylo did with vader’s mask

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Thursday, 24 December 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

Holy shit definitely

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 24 December 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

Mando totally dug it out and rescued it from the ruins of the ship. Chekov's Ball did not deliver.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 24 December 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

i do remember watching star wars again relatively recently and really feeling the casualness of 'let's zap an entire planet'

I really liked how this series examined the (psychological) aftershock of Alderaan’s destruction, though.

(I liked the Cara Dune character in general; too bad the actor is a wingnut.)

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Thursday, 24 December 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

when oh when will there be star peace?

closed beta (NotEnough), Thursday, 24 December 2020 16:49 (three years ago) link

xp totally agreed. it's a shame - i liked her when she left the UFC and started out in Haywire

Nhex, Thursday, 24 December 2020 18:29 (three years ago) link

I could not stop laughing at the rock 'em sock 'em robot punching.

BrianB, Thursday, 24 December 2020 23:20 (three years ago) link

same, that was very amusing

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 24 December 2020 23:33 (three years ago) link

"We didn't want to spoil the surprise during the big Kathleen Kennedy announcement of all the shows [during Investor Day earlier this month], so they let me keep this one a secret, " Favreau says. "So this is actually separate from The Mandalorian season 3. But what we didn't say in that announcement is the next show coming up — what Kathy called 'the next chapter' — is going to be The Book of Boba Fett, and then we go into production right after that on The Mandalorian, back with the main character that we all know and love... pretty soon following that. There's a lot of Star Wars content coming out, I think they announced 10 projects, I think this will be 11."

This raises the possibility that The Mandalorian itself won't air until 2022.


This seems right to me? Like Book of Boba becomes default s3 and Mando proper returns fast after.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

I read that somewhere too – S3 planned for 2022.

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Sunday, 27 December 2020 21:33 (three years ago) link

The Marvel shows start debuting in 2021, right? So Mandalorian should be back just in time for the Marvel movies to start belatedly hitting theaters.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

Yeah, Wandavision hits Jan. 15, Falcon/Winter Soldier March 19. Loki in the summer. I'm sure Disney+ will drop something else for November.
Book of Boba Fett should be December, guessing there will be some kind of crossover with Mando S3 or one of the other announced SW shows.

Nhex, Sunday, 27 December 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link

one of the virtues of the mandalorian is that it showed a somewhat politically equivalent and scrappy system, including imperial remnants and went some way to humanising stormtroopers

I thought the most effective example of humanizing stormtroopers in this season was Chapter 15, where Mayfield and Mando dress up as Imperials and when they make it safely through the pirates to the Imperial base, and all the stormtroopers are cheering for them and clapping them on the back. It showed a kind of camaraderie and warmth you usually don't associate with stormtroopers.

o. nate, Monday, 28 December 2020 23:14 (three years ago) link

Yeah, also it felt like a sly meta-commentary on how many stormtroopers get casually slaughtered in the movies (and this series): they're super happy and surprised to find out some of them actually survived an enemy attack.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 11:56 (three years ago) link

I forgot about the Tron:Legacy youth cgi. This has been around for awhile.

kniphofia face (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 January 2021 05:30 (three years ago) link

Finally watched the Season 2 Gallery thing. While I don't think it warranted another full season, I did find myself still wanting more. Interesting that they didn't talk at all about the Luke scene. Spoiler tags juuuust in case.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 January 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link

Yeah I was noticing that as well -- wonder if they had some other character somehow standing in, or just did a reallll skeleton crew situation for that part.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 9 January 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link

Hamill said something about how well they kept it a secret (for a year?), but I don’t know the specifics.

Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Saturday, 9 January 2021 04:34 (three years ago) link

My wife and I were just hanging out with The Last Jedi on TV; the scene came on with those Jedi temple “caretakers” cleaning up after Rey shoots a hole in the wall. My wife (who also watched this series) was like, “Is that the same frog people? Is that the son of the frog who....”.

I thought that was pretty funny.

Four Jacks and a Jill (morrisp), Monday, 11 January 2021 07:20 (three years ago) link

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2020 season is nominated in the 2020 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2020 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 29, 2021

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:40 (three years ago) link

This dude cruises around my area on a skateboard; I saw him today and he gave me a nod: https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/masked-mandalorian-los-angeles-toluca-lake-burbank-street-baby-yoda/2508293/

one of the only artist who is genuine (morrisp), Saturday, 23 January 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link

A mask is a mask is a mask, I guess.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 23 January 2021 02:06 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

BREAKING: Lucasfilm fires Gina Carano from The Mandalorian after “abhorrent and unacceptable” social media posts. https://t.co/jlv1F3bxq1 pic.twitter.com/TD7fRJIQTU

— IGN (@IGN) February 11, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 February 2021 03:47 (three years ago) link

surprised they finally pulled the trigger on this honestly

Nhex, Thursday, 11 February 2021 04:01 (three years ago) link

Her post today seemed legit over the top, even by her standards. Glad they finally did something, though I'm sure this will feed her persecution complex.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 11 February 2021 04:06 (three years ago) link

Recast her with Lucy Lawless

groovypanda, Thursday, 11 February 2021 07:56 (three years ago) link

I bet Ronda Rousey's agent is making some calls. "Hi, yes, I have a client who may prefer getting cast in a successful Disney franchise to getting repeatedly pummeled in the head, please give me a ring."

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:17 (three years ago) link

yeah no that's ok

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link

Man, I have been a fan of hers since the American Gladiators reboot, this is disappointing (I had no idea any of this nonsense was going on)

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link

WHY YOU CRUSH HAERT

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link

i see what you did there

Nhex, Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

the irony of getting fired from a show starring a mask

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 11 February 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link

Did she delete a load of tweets or am I looking at the wrong twitter I cant see anything extreme.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link

The article I saw said the big thing was an IG post, which was deleted.

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:10 (three years ago) link

Ah, right. I never think to look there. IG baffles me.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:11 (three years ago) link

Ugh found it. What a tool.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 12 February 2021 00:12 (three years ago) link

Seriously. Like, you're an actor working for Disney in 2021. There is literally no reason you should mention the word "Holocaust" in anything you post.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 February 2021 00:14 (three years ago) link

also an astonishingly bad actor

i mean it's star wars and it doesn't take much at all but jeez

mookieproof, Friday, 12 February 2021 04:38 (three years ago) link

Virtually everyone on this is “bad” but yes, she is partic disconnected

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 February 2021 12:05 (three years ago) link

imagine being basically a circus performer who won the lottery and then losing it because you thought you had Very Important Thoughts to share. i cant imagine why anyone in that position would ever post anything other than "i love my fans! how old were U when u first saw star wars?"

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 February 2021 13:30 (three years ago) link

what's that term the rad kids use, "virtue signaling"? lol

Nhex, Friday, 12 February 2021 13:52 (three years ago) link

it's been years since i saw it but i remember thinking she was great in Haywire.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 February 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link

she definitely was! that's where I was first made aware of her too, and have been a fan until.. all this.

Nhex, Friday, 12 February 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

imagine being basically a circus performer who won the lottery and then losing it because you thought you had Very Important Thoughts to share. i cant imagine why anyone in that position would ever post anything other than "i love my fans! how old were U when u first saw star wars?"

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, February 12, 2021 7:30 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is a phenomenon that really confuses me across the board, you see it everywhere, Hollywood, music, or just regular Trump supporters who get fired from some cushy job, basically ruined and alienated from their own families just because of this overwhelming desire to shitpost racist stuff

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 February 2021 15:36 (three years ago) link

I don't get it either, but it seems like the brainworms run so deeply that they legitimately think they are the only people "brave" enough to tell the "real truth".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

rewatched haywire recently and it holds up imo, but in hindsight its clear thats partly bc she is called on to do very very little acting or emoting

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 February 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

the idea of people in lives of wealth and ease spending time looking at their phones all day like every other phone addict and actually thinking up stuff to post and posting it the same way my old parents do, when theyre in a position be doing 9000 other interesting fun things every day is always depressing to me

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:07 (three years ago) link

Not that I feel inclined to defend her in the least, but surely being stuck at home the same as the rest of us isn't at all helping people like her susceptible to these brainworms.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2021 16:09 (three years ago) link

I’ve got my quibbles here and there, but basically agree with this. https://t.co/oSnaVSdzQ8

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) February 12, 2021

pence's eye juice (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

Ffs she wasn't fired for "being conservative", Chris Hayes should be ashamed of himself for pushing that narrative. She was fired for a repeated pattern of inflammatory and hateful posts.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:15 (three years ago) link

lol knew that was going to be a Chait piece

rob, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

Seriously. The obvious retort many have already made is, ok, which "conservative" values did she espouse?

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link

here's a good retort:

it's a neat trick to make all conservatives believe fevered conspiratorial nonsense so that firing someone for spreading fevered conspiratorial nonsense is punishing them for their normal conservative views

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) February 12, 2021

rob, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

lol

Gina Carano Hits Back, Announces New Movie Project With Ben Shapiro’s Daily Wire: “They Can’t Cancel Us If We Don’t Let Them” https://t.co/6mirYhffZK

— Deadline Hollywood (@DEADLINE) February 12, 2021

mookieproof, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:39 (three years ago) link

motherfuckers seem to believe that no job comes with a code of conduct i guess

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

Have a little sympathy, her entire home planet was destroyed, iirc.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 February 2021 17:46 (three years ago) link

lol

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 12 February 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

xxxp Can't wait for Atlas Shrugged... in space.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Friday, 12 February 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link

Atlas Yeeted Himself Into The Sun

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 12 February 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link

i remember thinking she was great in Haywire.

Today I learned (rumor has it?) she was actually largely dubbed by Laura San Giacomo!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 February 2021 20:44 (three years ago) link

"How could Gina Carano be so dumb as to throw away a potential massive acting career with her crazy social media opinions?" Well, it's less dumb when you realize she's an heiress to a massive family fortune spanning dozens of companies and billions of $$$: https://t.co/9nolxyr6aV

— Jason "David Wong" Pargin (@JohnDiesattheEn) February 12, 2021

rob, Friday, 12 February 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link

it's not just an american thing of course but it feels especially american to do dumb shit simply because there are no repercussions for your actions.
frolic.mp3

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 12 February 2021 21:44 (three years ago) link

Well there were repercussions, and I don’t think she realizes or accepts it’s dumb shit (which is the problem).

...Unless it was a “suicide by cop” move, and she already had this set up

babe for the weekend (morrisp), Saturday, 13 February 2021 03:32 (three years ago) link

22k signatures Vs the most popular show on Disney isn't going to make a dent.

Major D in QAnon (onimo), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

Have been watching a lot of Clone Wars and Rebels with my son recently and wondering if the "can't take my helmet off" thing is unique to this show? As there's lots of Mandalorian themed episodes (especially in Rebels) and no-one seems to have any qualms about removing their helmets.

Think it's remarked upon in The Mandalorian when he first meets Bo Katan and clan along the lines of "oh, he's one of those" but was wondering if it's come up anywhere before in the SW universe?

groovypanda, Monday, 22 February 2021 12:01 (three years ago) link

yeah just saw the Rebels with the trip to Mandalore and wondered what was going on.

Stevolende, Monday, 22 February 2021 12:35 (three years ago) link

The Way of the Mandalore “was first laid out in the 2019 live-action television series The Mandalorian.”

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Monday, 22 February 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link

I finally finished the Mandalorian this weekend and I'm not sorry to see her go. Hardly anyone on this show can act (or, they are asked to act in a way that seems like they cannot) but she was particularly awful.

akm, Monday, 22 February 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

I didn't really object to the acting on this show until Bill Burr* came back and basically ran circles around the rest of the cast, at which point I started asking myself "am I really this enthralled by watching Hollywood people impersonate action figures"

* I liked Rosario Dawson as well but... I always like Rosario Dawson, her entire role could have been her farting on a light sabre and I would have been all "wow what nuance to those toots"

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, 22 February 2021 16:28 (three years ago) link

my thoughts exactly

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 22 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

if she farted on a light saber I'm pretty sure that would have brought imbalance to the force, and possibly also a cauterized asshole

if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Monday, 22 February 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

just a step on the way to regularity

maf you one two (maffew12), Monday, 22 February 2021 16:42 (three years ago) link

I liked Carano's character, and I thought she had the right kind of "bad acting" for this show, but I probably wouldn't have followed her to the new Space Rangers (or whatever) series even if she were the coolest person in the world.

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:12 (three years ago) link

when you're lauding Bill Burr as the best thespian in your cast, that's not a great sign for the strength of your ensemble. good thing i didn't come here for the acting; tbh I'd be okay with them bulk recasting everyone every year.

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 22 February 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

The Mandalorian finds Ahsoka outside the town farting on her light sabre and presents the child to her.

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 22 February 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

wow, you guys really don't like the title character?

Nhex, Monday, 22 February 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

I like him. Like I like the Littlest Hobo or Grasshopper. Wandering around getting in adventures. Saving villagers.

Major D in QAnon (onimo), Monday, 22 February 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link

the Mandalorian is a fuckin bum

Major D in QAnon (onimo), Monday, 22 February 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

yeah I have no problem with Mando

akm, Monday, 22 February 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link

He generally doesn’t have do much other than be stoic and murder people

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link

i love Mando

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link

He generally doesn’t have do much other than be stoic and murder people

― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Monday, February 22, 2021 9:12 PM bookmarkflaglink

kinda like Sonny Crockett

if you meh them, shut up (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link

surprisingly, no one appears to have created a Mando Vice parody youtube/meme/etc, goldmine waiting for exploitation imo

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 03:47 (three years ago) link

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOJ1cw6mohw

groovypanda, Monday, 1 November 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

kinda less excited for this after seeing the teaser tbh

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 November 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link

I dunno I'm down, the design looks pretty good at least. Though all this lovey dovey cooperation and respect doesn't seem very in character for a fucker who Vader had to forbid from disintegrating people.

chap, Monday, 1 November 2021 18:02 (two years ago) link

a photo thread for 2 BBY–5 ABY bounty hunters oozing sobriety and wisdom in the present day

juristic person (morrisp), Monday, 1 November 2021 18:46 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

I mean, yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odnRRZKhNPk

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 10 September 2022 18:13 (one year ago) link

Thrace!

Spottie, Saturday, 10 September 2022 19:22 (one year ago) link

four months pass...

And a few weeks to go...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znsa4Deavgg

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 21:56 (one year ago) link

it's still so weird to me that amy sedaris is an active and canonical part of the star wars universe

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link

Strangers with Droids

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

some of these process shots look... *searches for word* poor...

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:04 (one year ago) link

Just found out from this meme that the central emotional plot point of The Mandalorian was resolved in some other show that I will never watch. https://t.co/jM9lwzAvbn

— Cody Johnston (@drmistercody) January 17, 2023

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:20 (one year ago) link

I get that point, but honestly I'm having a really hard time imagining the Star Wars fan that would be excited to sit through two seasons of The Mandalorian and be stoked for season 3, but absolutely refused to watch Book of Boba Fett. Cannot be persuaded that those people exist, even as bad as most of BoBF was.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:28 (one year ago) link

I do like the idea of Mandalorian purists, given, well, Mandalorians (or at least a certain number of them).

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:32 (one year ago) link

I ditched Boba Fett after Ep. 3, but will prob check out Mando S3...

Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:50 (one year ago) link

I think eps 4/5/6 are Mando season 2.5. They’re merely bad, while the rest of the show is absolutely dire, on a scale I can’t really comprehend.

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 22:52 (one year ago) link

Book of Boba Fett was an "ok" show with an absolutely weird-ass take on Boba Fett as a character. Not Morrison's fault, he was just playing this weird version of BF. This is a solid example of a producing team "not getting it." The only explanation for me is Mandalorian stole a lot of what made Fett mysterious for their own main dude, and they couldn't have two shows going around with basically the same character. Which to me means they should have probably just not made this show and if anything kept Fett as a cameo character.

Fett surviving the Sarlacc isn't as bad as the Emperor surviving being incinerated in a pit + Death Star 2 vaporizing, but it's not great stuff. Having a sidestep leading into Mandalorian S3 is a bizarre choice, even if those episodes were a marked improvement. Most of the time spent watching the non-Mando eps was me just wondering how Ming-Na Wen is 60 yrs old.

Though i'm also not one of those who thinks Mando is grade-A, it's pretty good and fun but it's not great. I think Andor is clearly the cream of the Disney+ SW crop, just across the board a superior sci-fi program.

omar little, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:06 (one year ago) link

fett surviving the sarlacc is one of the few things they kept from the original expanded universe! (the emperor did return in a comic i think, but i never read that one)

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:11 (one year ago) link

Excited to see The Last Mandaloroan Of Us

calstars, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:16 (one year ago) link

Temura morrison, bless him, is not great in BoBF, regardless of script

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:35 (one year ago) link

i mean he's ok if your Boba Fett is a mildly bemused dad

omar little, Tuesday, 17 January 2023 23:37 (one year ago) link

in the first draft of The Empire Strikes Back, he said "You changed our deal! I have to get home for my son's quiddich match!"

maf you one two (maffew12), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 00:08 (one year ago) link

i liked mandalorian but was warned off boba fett by everyone that I know IRL who attempted to watch it, all of whom said it was fucking awful.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 00:27 (one year ago) link

You could honestly just watch the Mando eps of BoBF and never know you weren’t watching Mandalorian. It’s really really strange.

omar little, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 00:34 (one year ago) link

Yeah just a very strange choice. I feel like Favreau/Filoni/Lucasfilm set up the direction for Mando S3 in S2 then second-guessed and panicked and used BoBF to fix it. They Abrams-ed it, in Star Wars parlance

Vinnie, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 00:48 (one year ago) link

I was one of the few that enjoyed BoBF too, but hard to argue that the Mando episodes weren't the best

Vinnie, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 00:51 (one year ago) link

Trailer looks great, love the almost pastel armor of the other mandos in the beginning

calstars, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 01:05 (one year ago) link

Huh. I enjoyed Book of Boba Fett just fine. (In fact I thought the second episode was really lovely at its best.)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 01:18 (one year ago) link

I just thought it was very very weird as a Boba Fett story and it was hard for me to get past that. Taken out of context, as just another sci fi program, I didn’t think it was really bad per se. I think I just wanted it to be a icier than it was though admittedly if this was the journey the character was intended to take it makes sense from a certain point of view. Canonically it plays better and less amateurishly than Rings of Power. The episode you reference is actually good, the best part of the “book”.

omar little, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link

Arbitrary and uncalled for rings of power dis, sorry

omar little, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 01:50 (one year ago) link

AFAIC you can't dis THAT show enough.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 01:54 (one year ago) link

they had kid Boba Fett as a bounty hunter (post what, episode 2 where Jango dies?) in the cartoons and I’m not sure if the Book show is even that coherent with the Clone Wars tv show material. eh, whatever

fett surviving the sarlacc is one of the few things they kept from the original expanded universe! (the emperor did return in a comic i think, but i never read that one)

the launch of the larger scale Star Wars extended universe in the 90s that followed ROTJ was basically kicked off with Dark Empire that had a lot of the same plot beats they mysteriously dropped only in that last movie installment. clone emperor, weapons more dangerous and more numerous than the death star, and other shenanigans.

one of the main things I thought when they rebooted and did The Force Awakens was “whew, at least they didn’t do that goofy plot” and here we are. there were some other old continuity bits that were ok that they’ve cycled into some shows

mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 03:29 (one year ago) link

Dark Empire ruled

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 03:43 (one year ago) link

I'm having a really hard time imagining the Star Wars fan that would be excited to sit through two seasons of The Mandalorian and be stoked for season 3, but absolutely refused to watch Book of Boba Fett.

it me, though i wouldn't go as far as stoked and i didn't even remember baby yoda was gone at the end of s2. was that the cgi luke thing? i only barely remember any of this shit

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 04:32 (one year ago) link

Yeah, CG Luke showed up after kicking butt on that spaceship and took Grogu with him.

Vexatious litigant (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 04:53 (one year ago) link

there were some other old continuity bits that were ok that they’ve cycled into some shows

― mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 03:29 (one hour ago) link

rosario dawson’s character was quite loudly searching for grand admiral thrawn so i guess we’ll get to that whenever she has her inevitable spinoff

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 05:32 (one year ago) link

that spinoff is coming this year!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 05:57 (one year ago) link

I Want Fuck Mafia Father Ohh Ohh Ohm

Poopy G Stinkgarten, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 06:17 (one year ago) link

I was actually really into the first several episodes of The Book of Boba Fett. I was intrigued by his character and liked seeing the rise of a sympathetic crime lord trying to build alliances on trust. But the jump into Mandalorian S2.5 was really weird - it was good to see that story progress, but the sudden and complete shift from the actual Boba Fett story completely broke the flow. Then it felt like a bit of a mess when they got back on track and accelerated to the finale, which -looked- amazing but played out with series of escalations, baddies missing shots on goodies and last-minute deus ex machinas like kids playing with their toys.
"Here come the reinforcements! Blam blam blam! Yay!!!!" "Yeah well here come the killer robots! Rakkatarakkata!" "Oh no! Run away! Through the main street! You keep missing me until I jump behind cover! Blam blam I shot some of your guys! And here comes the giant monster!!!"
I would like to see more of Boba in the future though.

Also excited to see Thrawn sooner or later, it's a great character, even though I never cared much for the Timothy Zahn books that introduced him - those relied more on flashbacks and repeats of everything from the original trilogy than even Episode 7 can be accused of.

Valentijn, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 08:07 (one year ago) link

watching the trailer coming off of andor, brain could not comprehend these two take place in the same universe.

also, knowing about the Volume now i'm unreasonably preoccupied with searching it out in this new trailer

, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:29 (one year ago) link

rosario dawson’s character was quite loudly searching for grand admiral thrawn so i guess we’ll get to that whenever she has her inevitable spinoff

I regret to inform you there is an entire Star Wars: Rebels plot arc over multiple seasons featuring Thrawn that culminates in him being jumped to an unknown location through hyperspace involving a young jedi and space whales. They also brought back Timothy Zahn to write three (?) more Thrawn novels in nu-canon

mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 13:31 (one year ago) link

Rebels was so fucking dope

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 14:03 (one year ago) link

Really is a solid series.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 15:15 (one year ago) link

admittedly STILL need to watch Andor, but the "Empire Day" episode of Rebels is kinda what made me more excited for a show like Andor

fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

imagine a drake meme

scoffing drake: thrawn trilogy
happy drake: hand of thrawn duology

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:20 (one year ago) link

jk i did like the thrawn trilogy but idk the hand of thrawn duology was my shit. prob because pellaeon is my fav character and if they don't bring him into the nu-canon they might as well start over yet again!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:21 (one year ago) link

now you just have to read the Thrawn Ascendancy trilogy (or not)

mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:44 (one year ago) link

they're cowards for not making it a tetralogy!

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:46 (one year ago) link

oh, I was wrong. my reading comprehension was off and I've forgotten things. there are TWO Thrawn trilogies in canon (groan, lol)

mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:49 (one year ago) link

note that I would get bored and have time off work around the holidays and I think I've read every Star Wars book that is in-canon, other than maybe some of the newest grand republic era ones

sickos.jpg

mh, Wednesday, 18 January 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

three weeks pass...

wouldn't hate it if they adapted the Thrawn comic miniseries by Jody Houser, but i think most of those new era comics will be ignored (much like everything they did regarding Han Solo)

Nhex, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:45 (one year ago) link

that's an adaptation of the first Thrawn novel in the new series of them, so... it's canon, but who knows

mh, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

My kid LOVES Thrawn. He reads and rereads all the novels constantly. He’d lose his shit if there were an adaptation.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

there is a pretty good chance that Thrawn's going to show up in the Ahsoka live show

mh, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link

i'm blue (da ba dee)

sault bae (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 19:05 (one year ago) link

xpost - is that the new Thrawn trilogies that he enjoys? haven't read any of the new ones, but loved the hell out of the Heir to the Empire original

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 8 February 2023 20:22 (one year ago) link

Never heard of that book series but just bought the first one for my mando loving kid. Thanks ilx!

calstars, Wednesday, 8 February 2023 20:49 (one year ago) link

xpost - is that the new Thrawn trilogies that he enjoys? haven't read any of the new ones, but loved the hell out of the Heir to the Empire original

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, February 8, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

It started with the new trilogy, yeah. He went back to the older ones too and loves those too.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 9 February 2023 05:05 (one year ago) link

My son loves the Thrawn trilogy, read multiple times.

he'll flip out if the big man appears in some SW adjacent TV show.

my opinionation (Hamildan), Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:26 (one year ago) link

If the cartoons count, he was in multiple seasons of Star Wars: Rebels

mh, Thursday, 9 February 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link

just saw Jackie Hoffman perform live and thought - again - how she'd be perfect for a role in this. Star Wars loves its cranky jews at the edge of the galaxy.

POLIZISTEN VERSINKEN IM SCHLAMM (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 9 February 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link

but until recently the results were... not so good

Nhex, Tuesday, 14 February 2023 18:41 (one year ago) link

Watto haters idt

mh, Thursday, 16 February 2023 04:24 (one year ago) link

pirate stuff felt like trek

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 2 March 2023 03:44 (one year ago) link

The great crossover. Enjoyed it, felt like a good warming up.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 March 2023 07:20 (one year ago) link

yes, we also dug it. "No squeeze" was a big hit with the little guys watching at home (not a big hit with the little guys on screen obv).

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:33 (one year ago) link

I wish I could use the Force to spin around in my office chair.

Bruce Hornsby–Big Stick 3:15 (Eliza D.), Thursday, 2 March 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link

Mando mooching around talking to people about stuff I can't really remember. Boring.

It looked nice though.

chap, Friday, 3 March 2023 21:24 (one year ago) link

this felt like it was written by a 12 year old

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link

Favreau has sole or co-writing credit on every ep this season, according to IMDB.

Just fyi

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 06:18 (one year ago) link

Mythosaur?

a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

Well, that was an odd choice. Plz no more boring clone man.

a hallan shaker loon (dowd), Wednesday, 15 March 2023 21:17 (one year ago) link

Intriguing tangent potentially but hard to see what it's setting up. Always nice to see Coruscant by night though (and a chunk of its biggest mountain lol ok).

nashwan, Wednesday, 15 March 2023 22:03 (one year ago) link

More like Andorlorian, amirite?

In terms of setting up, I assume Elai is still working for Moff Gideon undercover in that Amnesty place and trying to get Pershing to return to the Empire/Gideon (unless turning the Mind Flayer up to 11 is going to pulp his mind as he knows too much)]

groovypanda, Thursday, 16 March 2023 07:12 (one year ago) link

This week’s episode did a great job of underscoring how impressive Andor was

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 17 March 2023 04:00 (one year ago) link

Ha, true enough but I liked the (inadvertent?) suggestion that troublemakers get stuck in bureaucratic grind jobs no matter who is in charge.

Personally I liked this episode a lot. Great action out of the gate and then a whole lot of burning tension.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2023 06:02 (one year ago) link

Yeah I liked it fine. My kids were bored to tears.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 17 March 2023 14:10 (one year ago) link

starting to think the new republic didn't execute a certain Moff and his troops are out there rallying

mh, Friday, 17 March 2023 14:41 (one year ago) link

No problems with this episode, but it could have been shaved down by about 10 minutes and still have been just as fine.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 March 2023 14:42 (one year ago) link

This is long-game fan-canon pondering but if you've also been watching The Bad Batch like me, I think there's some clear groundwork being laid for a long-arc of secret Imperial cloning research/measures. The first season of that ended in Kamino's destruction, in essence, but keeping key scientists for further research, and there's been irregular moments and scenes throughout this season, which still has three episodes to go, have been building out something going on further with that. That series is some thirty years in the past to Mandalorian of course but there's a conceptual throughline.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2023 14:56 (one year ago) link

I seem to remember someone making clones with force powers some decades down the line

mh, Friday, 17 March 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

It's pretty clear that's what's underpinning things!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2023 14:59 (one year ago) link

I actually really liked this episode and how off course it went! Though I definitely not expect to see an episode about how The New Republic's very communist dystopia is only slightly better, but mostly the same, as the Empire's peak era in Andor.

Nhex, Friday, 17 March 2023 19:51 (one year ago) link

It kinda fits in with that comment in the first episode from Carl Weathers about not wanting to be under New Republic control either. (Add in the long term stuff about how Leia has to kinda fund the Resistance on her own or whatever she ended up doing -- basically, 'winning' is messy and uneven even at the best of times.)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 March 2023 20:21 (one year ago) link

Caught that Bad Batch resonance too.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 18 March 2023 04:08 (one year ago) link

Funny watching this latest episode at the same time as episode 3 of Last of Us, where they both start with the main characters, shift to a verrrry long unrelated story, then go back to the main characters at the end. The difference being that Last of Us connected the middle story back to the main characters and in Mando I have no clue why it was included yet. (Possibly just payback for Mando hijacking two episodes of Boba Fett.)

Vinnie, Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:55 (one year ago) link

On top of the obvious connection of Pedro Pascal accompanying a child on dangerous adventures

Vinnie, Sunday, 19 March 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link

I think we’re being primed for the reappearance of the chicken man

mh, Sunday, 19 March 2023 14:37 (one year ago) link

everybody knows TIEs don't just appear out of nowhere - they have no hyperdrives. where was the imperial ship? worst. episode. ever.

, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 03:50 (one year ago) link

Coupled with the "Mandalore was poisoned was a lie to keep us away" bit, I guess the implication could be there's an Empire base somewhere on the planet?

groovypanda, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 16:45 (one year ago) link

That's an interesting idea. Maybe just in the Mandalore System and not necessarily Mandalore itself.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 18:03 (one year ago) link

I think we’re being primed for the reappearance of the chicken man

― mh, Sunday, March 19, 2023 10:37 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

He got blown up in Mos Eisley last night IIRC

Bruce Hornsby–Big Stick 3:15 (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 19:14 (one year ago) link

The Chicken Man? Didn't he stay behind of the floating Lizard island?

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 19:25 (one year ago) link

well guess that kid that got swallowed by the big bird has got ptsd to rival grogu's now

"no jetpacks! ok, now that we've climbed up to the top, let's use our jetpacks"

cool to see Ahmed Best tho

nashwan, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 19:46 (one year ago) link

Fun stuff this season - fx stuff has been excellent - but the lack of a villain makes these episodes feel like a whole lot of “ world building ” (yuck) and not much else.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 20:26 (one year ago) link

Whereas I love a bit of world building and hadn’t even registered there wasn’t a villain

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:33 (one year ago) link

Just a bit is fine but not all of it!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 22 March 2023 21:42 (one year ago) link

I heard they blew up his droids too, Eliza

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 23 March 2023 01:10 (one year ago) link

feel like the more that is revealed about mandalore mythology, the stupider it gets. it was better when we didn't know anything in season 1 except that it's cool to say 'this is the way' if you're a mandalorian.

, Thursday, 23 March 2023 13:58 (one year ago) link

I’m in the “ Mystery is good. “ camp but I’m old.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 23 March 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link

mythology spun out from an outfit people liked

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 23 March 2023 15:02 (one year ago) link

seems everything is leading to Bo-Katan or Din Djarin riding a mythosaur this season, perhaps to defeat a rising group of Empire holdouts. The mythosaur stuff is maybe too GoT-like.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:11 (one year ago) link

right now my theory is that bo-katan's name comes from boca raton, maybe because disney took the writers room there for a booze cruise or something

they're gonna ride the mythosaur but also the 3 dinosaur babies

, Thursday, 23 March 2023 16:50 (one year ago) link

looking forward to character "Mons Venus" showing up in later weeks

hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:07 (one year ago) link

I for one am excite to eat all these designer treats that have been introduced in this show next time i am forced to go to disneyland

Why wait when you can make them at home?

https://www.starwars.com/news/yellow-travel-biscuit-recipe

Bruce Hornsby–Big Stick 3:15 (Eliza D.), Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:46 (one year ago) link

But i want to pay 20 bux for a cookie

Mons Venus vs Mons Pubis using The Force

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 23 March 2023 17:57 (one year ago) link

rose water in the travel biscuits no wonder

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 23 March 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link

This show is all over the place with its runtimes, huh? about half the length of last week's

cool to see Ahmed Best tho

That's who that was! Cool indeed to see him

Vinnie, Saturday, 25 March 2023 00:20 (one year ago) link

this was so dope. Baby Yoda bonking around for like 10 minutes plus a short Rodan movie. i love this show.

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 25 March 2023 01:17 (one year ago) link

the flying rescue sequence near the end looked great for what must have been almost entirely CGI

Vinnie, Saturday, 25 March 2023 02:11 (one year ago) link

"Hey wait you're not the guy from Rebels"

"Well I'm a guy from Rebels..."

nashwan, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 20:31 (one year ago) link

Mandalorian Action Playset (by Kenner)

well there's our possible second reason the tie fighters were around. We loved this one. It tied into the earlier detours and raised some more questions.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 30 March 2023 03:42 (one year ago) link

This season of Bad Batch >>>> this season of Mandalorian

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 March 2023 03:59 (one year ago) link

Are you sure it is 4 greater thans better and not just 3?

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 30 March 2023 04:05 (one year ago) link

I really hesitated but yeah went with four

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 March 2023 04:20 (one year ago) link

I’m relieved they killed off (he better be actually dead) talking seaweed man and his flying animal farm.
We deserve a better villain than that.

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 30 March 2023 05:00 (one year ago) link

Yeah, I kept getting Pirates of the Caribbean vibes every time he was on screen

groovypanda, Thursday, 30 March 2023 12:13 (one year ago) link

Disney gonna Disney

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 30 March 2023 13:01 (one year ago) link

Mandoboringan

calstars, Thursday, 30 March 2023 13:41 (one year ago) link

One thing about this show is that, in earlier seasons you have one brooding, masked guy playing off of other characters, and it's mysterious and cool. But now there are is a whole team of equally masked people we're spending time with, and last night I was like, "Fuck, this is Power Rangers, isn't it?"

peace, man, Thursday, 30 March 2023 13:49 (one year ago) link

this is what you kids get for liking that boba fett helmet

INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 March 2023 16:14 (one year ago) link

It was very “i have 6 boba fett action figures”

One thing about this show is that, in earlier seasons you have one brooding, masked guy playing off of other characters, and it's mysterious and cool. But now there are is a whole team of equally masked people we're spending time with, and last night I was like, "Fuck, this is Power Rangers, isn't it?"

― peace, man, Thursday, March 30, 2023 bookmarkflaglink

I had this exact thought last week when they were all flying around fighting that dragon. Major Power Rangers vibes.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Thursday, 30 March 2023 23:09 (one year ago) link

Mandos whisper amongst themselves

calstars, Friday, 31 March 2023 00:05 (one year ago) link

The costumes and production design excellence of Andor have made The Mandalorian seem a lot cheesier this season.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Saturday, 1 April 2023 03:11 (one year ago) link

This season of Bad Batch >>>> this season of Mandalorian


I like both in different ways but the former really was excellent

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 1 April 2023 04:48 (one year ago) link

I’m only fifteen minutes in, but: lol

mh, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 23:22 (one year ago) link

Axe Wolves

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Wednesday, 5 April 2023 23:32 (one year ago) link

they went full-on with that name

mh, Wednesday, 5 April 2023 23:48 (one year ago) link

Wild episode

the guest star and fan service ratio turned into “do you want more?”

mh, Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:04 (one year ago) link

Grogu being the ladie’s man!

mh, Thursday, 6 April 2023 03:06 (one year ago) link

some serious devil sticks music during that challenge

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 6 April 2023 04:15 (one year ago) link

That was absolutely ridiculous and I loved every minute of it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 April 2023 04:59 (one year ago) link

It was like a good old-fashioned sweeps week show.

trishyb, Thursday, 6 April 2023 07:38 (one year ago) link

This was like a bad Star Trak. Star War levels dangerously low!!!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 6 April 2023 13:52 (one year ago) link

I enjoyed it a lot while also complaining about it frequently.

nashwan, Thursday, 6 April 2023 14:13 (one year ago) link

Fun episode for sure. Weird... political content, just like the other episode on Coruscant.

Nhex, Thursday, 6 April 2023 14:17 (one year ago) link

Love Boat guest star levels

calstars, Thursday, 6 April 2023 14:18 (one year ago) link

nashwan I'm with you

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 6 April 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

Gotta admit my love for droids is boundless.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 6 April 2023 14:23 (one year ago) link

Funny how much parts of this reminded me of Spielberg's AI including the neon-mall future city at night set design.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 6 April 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link

ah, yes and Lizzo is an terrible actor.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 6 April 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link

*a

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 6 April 2023 14:35 (one year ago) link

I'm happy anytime Christopher Lloyd pops up, especially if he's given a line like "If I trigger this failsafe, it will convert the planet's docile workforce back into battle droids and unleash them upon the unsuspecting citizens of Plazir!", which he delivered with the appropriate gravitas

Vinnie, Saturday, 8 April 2023 05:01 (one year ago) link

Now we're really getting somewhere. <3 IG-Grogu

nashwan, Wednesday, 12 April 2023 23:01 (one year ago) link

Curse whoever invoked Power Rangers in this thread, pretty impossible to see anything else whenever Mando Gang are onscreen

Watching this with an 11-year old is perfect, absolute delight at Grogu’s new ride

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Wednesday, 12 April 2023 23:20 (one year ago) link

Truly delightful. Heavy episode otherwise! But a great way to set up the season finale.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 April 2023 05:23 (one year ago) link

heard rumblings of a captain pellaeon appearance, might have to catch up on this season!

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Thursday, 13 April 2023 15:05 (one year ago) link

*whistles idly*

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 April 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

Will Thrawn make an appearance next week? (I always want to call him Thrak)

calstars, Thursday, 13 April 2023 15:33 (one year ago) link

Thbbt.

(Maybe? Who can say! Inasmuch as he's already teased for Ahsoka and it's all now building into the Filoni film...)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 April 2023 15:35 (one year ago) link

really sad when Big Papi took a dirt nap

calstars, Thursday, 13 April 2023 16:18 (one year ago) link

the extreme subtlety of referencing Project Necromancer

mh, Thursday, 13 April 2023 16:30 (one year ago) link

Giancarlo Esposito hamming it up like a silent film villain. Fun episode. Weird music cues, though, before the big showdown. Sounded very 70s "Battlestar Galactica" or something. Makes me wonder if the budget got squeezed very tight lol.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 13 April 2023 21:06 (one year ago) link

Yeah I was noticing the musical shifts. Bemusing at the least!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 April 2023 21:08 (one year ago) link

Giancarlo’s hair stole every scene

calstars, Thursday, 13 April 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link

that series of red laser doors he goes through down the hallway was so Get Smart

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 13 April 2023 21:46 (one year ago) link

what was that giant monster and what/how has it been eating this entire time to get so big?!

Loved Grogu's new ride and ability to communicate. Episode alright otherwise

Vinnie, Friday, 14 April 2023 10:12 (one year ago) link

“Gojira!”

calstars, Friday, 14 April 2023 11:44 (one year ago) link

ridiculous. best show going.

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 14 April 2023 12:07 (one year ago) link

Really liked the new episode, thought it was one of the best of the last two seasons. It was over the top in the best kind of way, 10 year-old me would have thought it was the best thing ever (to that, my 11 year-old said "BEST. EPISODE. EVER" after it was over....)

I always try to keep the "this is really for kids" in mind when watching, to keep the more ridiculous aspects in check and enjoy the ride, but to the discussion of the pirate guy even my kid said "what is this a Muppets crossover?" when he first showed up. And, yeah, total POTC vibes.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 14 April 2023 14:21 (one year ago) link

My kids and I watched SPACEBALLS a month or two back so whenever that pirate guy comes on we all shout Pizza the Hut!!”

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 14 April 2023 14:39 (one year ago) link

the hard juxtaposition of clowny corny stuff and like, 'sw-canon-theme' stuff usually works right for this series (except the power rangers ep, which was just, oh man, stop these drill sequences). this weeks ep was v fun with the villain reveal scene and impulsivity+ grodu.

lol pgwp

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Friday, 14 April 2023 15:47 (one year ago) link

"this is really for kids"

my wife fell out of her seat laughing at robogrogo

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 14 April 2023 16:26 (one year ago) link

the grogu bits where he acts like an annoying child are pretty on point

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

mh, Friday, 14 April 2023 16:32 (one year ago) link

that was the best

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 April 2023 16:33 (one year ago) link

and Mando’s weary reactions

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 14 April 2023 16:34 (one year ago) link

Dont steer INTO the torterra ffs

Lots of proper old school SW moments and feels in this final one. Even the music improved!

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 19 April 2023 14:50 (one year ago) link

Music seemed very low in the mix in some of the battle scenes.

Also, I can't not think Chucky every time Grogu walks/hops around

groovypanda, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link

my wife fell out of her seat laughing at robogrogo

we've rewatched this scene twice already. Also love "Bad baby! No squeezy!"

trishyb, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link

OK but kinda strange finale. Why have the Darksaber be destroyed so easily? And if he can do that he can survive the inferno but a final scene with the other Imperial strays including Kane reacting to news of his demise would've kept some intrigue going into next season or other tie-ins.

nashwan, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 21:12 (one year ago) link

rip mandalorian trinkets and the chicken man

mh, Wednesday, 19 April 2023 21:22 (one year ago) link

Good stuff indeed, nicely sets up whatever happens next (be it the Filoni crossover film or a season 4 of random shenanigans).

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 April 2023 05:59 (eleven months ago) link

Enjoyed the finale, found it quite exciting

mandalorians flying in a group with sabers pre-drawn seemed v illadvised, like running w scissors lol

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 20 April 2023 06:11 (eleven months ago) link

Din Djarin had some John Wick feeling moves. Gideon talking about trinkets from within an ironman suit. Seemed to take too much time for Gideon to find them given he had dots on a map.

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 20 April 2023 13:35 (eleven months ago) link

The finale was lots of fun with some great original trilogy vibes at a few points.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:14 (eleven months ago) link

Empire must develop a proprietary droid port design

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:39 (eleven months ago) link

They were dumb enough to fall for the vibes of the worst shitposter tech business guy they had, Lon Musko

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:53 (eleven months ago) link

Nashwan otm re Darksaber, I was "well it wasn't THAT magikal!" That's my main takeaway lol. And yeah I was all "what is it about the spinniness of droid ports, that's a stupid design, what is it, a magneto?" In Star Trek borgs just stab a probe into a computer bank. xp

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:53 (eleven months ago) link

Now we got Din Baby Yoda.

peace, man, Thursday, 20 April 2023 14:56 (eleven months ago) link

Jr Cop for hire-- with the FORCE. "You ain't gittin' away, baddos!" Now that they're getting to restart their civilization, are they gonna branch out to the finer arts-- of military tech? Their agriculture saavy is "we just like, let stuff grow, it's awesome."

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:01 (eleven months ago) link

my assumption is the crystal from the darksaber might have made it but that's big SW nerd territory

mh, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:18 (eleven months ago) link

Maybe having a giant not-mythical tusked deathbeast actually living in your fountain of life is just limiting.

Laurie Anderson’s Singing Bowl Migraine Orchestra (Hunt3r), Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:29 (eleven months ago) link

Grogu seemed to be vibing with it so we may still get our epic "baby yoda rides giant mandalorian mascot waving a lightsaber" moment

mh, Thursday, 20 April 2023 15:49 (eleven months ago) link

If mandalorians previously rode around on mythosaurs, when did 'myth' get added to their name?

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 20 April 2023 18:07 (eleven months ago) link

Myth translates as 'motorbike' in High Mandalorian

Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Thursday, 20 April 2023 19:02 (eleven months ago) link

Caught up finally. Would be pretty happy honestly if that was the end of the show, everything feels pretty wrapped up, but I know that Disney probably won't let a massively successful show like this die gracefully. Rumor has it the Rangers of the New Republic stuff will be repurposed here - it looks like they already started with all the Coruscant stuff, Carson Teva, etc.

Really glad terribly-named Nite Owl AXE WOVES didn't die pointlessly as it looked like was gonna happen

And if Gideon survived that shit, or it was a clone, I will be pretty pissed off honestly

Nhex, Thursday, 27 April 2023 17:44 (eleven months ago) link

Saw an article the other week that said Favreau has 10 seasons planned

groovypanda, Thursday, 27 April 2023 20:03 (eleven months ago) link

seven months pass...

It took me until now to realize he's part man, part DeLorean

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 30 November 2023 04:21 (four months ago) link


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