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Well, a lot going on here.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:31 (one year ago) link

Rangers of the New Republic, a new Original Series set within the timeline of @TheMandalorian, is coming to @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/YKlWJpvhAW

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

Ahsoka, a new Original Series, starring @RosarioDawson and set within the timeline of @TheMandalorian, is coming to @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/ZojpCkhPS7

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

“Everything I did, I did for the Rebellion.” Andor, an Original Series set in the Star Wars universe, is streaming in 2022 on #DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/q2IT2qzEeR

— Star Wars (@starwars) December 10, 2020

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:31 (one year ago) link

Hayden Christensen returns as Darth Vader, joining Ewan McGregor in OBI-WAN KENOBI. The Original Series begins 10 years after the dramatic events of Revenge of the Sith, and is coming to #DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/9WR2npRUkk

— Star Wars (@starwars) December 10, 2020

A sneak peek at Star Wars: The Bad Batch, an all-new animated Original Series from Lucasfilm Animation, coming soon to #DisneyPlus pic.twitter.com/V0jQc4XNIe

— Star Wars (@starwars) December 10, 2020

Star Wars: Visions, an Original Series of animated short films, celebrates the @StarWars galaxy through the lens of the world’s best Japanese anime creators. Coming in 2021 to @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/syUmiL7SdI

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:32 (one year ago) link

The galaxy’s favorite scoundrel, Lando Calrissian, will return in Lando, a brand-new event series for @DisneyPlus. Justin Simien (@JSim07) is in the early stages of developing the project.

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

Leslye Headland brings a new @StarWars series to @DisneyPlus with The Acolyte. “The Acolyte” is a mystery-thriller that will take viewers into a galaxy of shadowy secrets and emerging dark-side powers in the final days of the High Republic era.

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

Lucasfilm Animation is teaming up with Lucasfilm’s visual effects team, Industrial Light & Magic, to develop a special @StarWars adventure for @DisneyPlus, A Droid Story. This epic journey will introduce us to a new hero guided by R2-D2 and C-3PO.

— Disney (@Disney) December 10, 2020

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:32 (one year ago) link

dear fucking god

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:34 (one year ago) link

Plus Taiki Waititi's thing and Patty Jenkins is doing this:

pic.twitter.com/e3N00xCr5i

— Patty Jenkins (@PattyJenks) December 10, 2020

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:35 (one year ago) link

sadlol

All of the upcoming Star Wars/Lucasfilm projects #DisneyInvestorDay pic.twitter.com/ipP8uTxdbT

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) December 10, 2020

nashwan, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:37 (one year ago) link

I'm skeptical they'll manage to give each of these a distinct feel rather than following the proven Mando formula. I think I'd be more excited if there was one or two series in development rather than a half dozen.

chap, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:39 (one year ago) link

Remember when 15 or 16 years would pass without a new Star Wars thing, that was pretty tight in retrospect

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:39 (one year ago) link

Well, depending on the media. That Timothy Zahn book in 1991 kickstarting the run of novels and the various 90s computer games were keeping interest pretty high.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:41 (one year ago) link

I remember as a young fan in the 80s/early 90s being convinced there'd never be another proper Star Wars thing...

xpost

chap, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:41 (one year ago) link

average convo in a Gen X household in Dec

"bought $100 worth of Star Wars toys"

"oh, the kids will love that..."

"right....the kids..."

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:42 (one year ago) link

I hope, completely and unironically, that the Rangers of the New Republic series does nothing but remake old CHiPs episodes, and somehow stars Estrada, Wilcox, Dorn and Chris Pine's dad.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:44 (one year ago) link

Yyyyyyyyeah, mandalorian is one thing as a fun retro treat but fuck if I’m clearing out a fucking mall size space in my memory palace for this avalanche of trademarks.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:46 (one year ago) link

misread one of the projects as Star Wars: The Bad Bitch

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:49 (one year ago) link

wait the Obi-Wan show is gonna have Hayden Christiansen as Darth?

wtf - JEJ is still gonna do the voice, presumably, so....are they just paying him to walk around in the costume?

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:51 (one year ago) link

xp Me too

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:53 (one year ago) link

Supposedly he's retired from doing the voice, but I don't know if that was just a rumor or not. At the least there's been no handoff as with Chewie yet.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:53 (one year ago) link

oh god if Hayden does the voice

Darth "Stoned" Vader

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:56 (one year ago) link

this is a controversial opinion, but I think this is too much star wars

silverfish, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:58 (one year ago) link

A Lando show is just too good, man i loved me some Solo.

piscesx, Thursday, 10 December 2020 23:59 (one year ago) link

Star Wars: The Bad Bitch

yeah gonna be a lot of demands for this now - Sy Snootles finally getting her due

nashwan, Friday, 11 December 2020 00:01 (one year ago) link

this is like when as a teenager I went to a bookstore in the 90s and saw dozens of star wars books. Suddenly something I like becomes way too much and not something I want to keep track of.

silverfish, Friday, 11 December 2020 00:05 (one year ago) link

The Star Wars franchise should just be non-stop announcements of things that are never delivered.

jmm, Friday, 11 December 2020 00:06 (one year ago) link

every single one of these things is going to feature a puppet baby version of a preexisting character

, Friday, 11 December 2020 00:14 (one year ago) link

Baby Palpatine

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 December 2020 00:14 (one year ago) link

I can't believe this shit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:28 (one year ago) link

Man, even as a huge fan of Star Wars, this is too much. And I really miss the days when this was all slowly revealed, not spat out in one massive investor call data dump.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:37 (one year ago) link

Baby Jabba

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:39 (one year ago) link

Baby Palpatine

This would ... rule?

lukas, Friday, 11 December 2020 00:39 (one year ago) link

I'm pretty cool with just continuing to treat the pre-Disney material and the Filoniverse as the only SW stuff worth paying attention to. Granted, wrt the latter that would still have me on the hook for half of these new shows.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:44 (one year ago) link

I feel like there's a very real chance "The Acolyte" will have baby Sheev.

jmm, Friday, 11 December 2020 00:47 (one year ago) link

there's gonna be a movie about how Sheev conceived his son

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:50 (one year ago) link

called Palp Fiction

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:50 (one year ago) link

*Friction

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 11 December 2020 04:48 (one year ago) link

Sheev's Gotta Have It

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 December 2020 04:51 (one year ago) link

Droid Six

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 December 2020 04:54 (one year ago) link

The Emperor's New Groove

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 11 December 2020 05:29 (one year ago) link

Imperial Bedroom

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 11 December 2020 06:04 (one year ago) link

Sidious Kinky

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Friday, 11 December 2020 07:03 (one year ago) link

holy shit a+

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 11 December 2020 07:09 (one year ago) link

Why would anyone come onto a thread to express negative thoughts about Disney properties

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Friday, 11 December 2020 07:28 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yix_9g_Ob74

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 19 December 2020 00:01 (one year ago) link

Kind of interesting article (with a minor spoiler about future plans, if you haven't finished The Mandalorian yet): https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/disney-star-wars-marvel-studios-1234866986/

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Saturday, 19 December 2020 18:14 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

I'm just going to post this now because I can see that I'm going to get a lot of requests -

Yes, Rian's SW trilogy is still on. No dates or timelines because he has other projects going on, but it is happening.

THAT IS ALL I KNOW ABOUT IT. 😁😁😁

— Sariah Wilson (@sariahwilson) February 16, 2021

groovypanda, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 12:17 (one year ago) link

Not sure where this goes (it’s not tv or movie related, but relevant): https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/star-wars-high-republic-novels/2021/02/22/adbb4338-72e3-11eb-85fa-e0ccb3660358_story.html

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 15:53 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

The incredible cast includes Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen, Moses Ingram, Joel Edgerton, Bonnie Piesse, Kumail Nanjiani, Indira Varma, Rupert Friend, O’Shea Jackson Jr., Sung Kang, Simone Kessell and Benny Safdie. pic.twitter.com/VltHs5Aw6r

— Star Wars (@starwars) March 29, 2021

groovypanda, Monday, 29 March 2021 17:15 (one year ago) link

that is a pick names out of a hat cast there

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 29 March 2021 17:26 (one year ago) link

Hayden C. unrecognizable in that pic

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Monday, 29 March 2021 17:39 (one year ago) link

Ben introduction at the end seemed tacked on to prove Luke would know who he was when he first sees/talks about him in ANH.

that and so that McGregor can finally say “hello there”, sigh

i know shitty retcons have been part of SW tradition from the very beginning, but I am starting to wonder whether they’re doing it deliberately at this point lol. like I can buy the idea that Leia is pretending not to know him when she sends her message in ANH but… she also has little to no reaction to his death and spends the aftermath comforting Luke instead. It’s just odd to introduce this relationship between two major characters knowing perfectly well that it doesn’t quite fit in with later parts of their story. but you know, whatever.

overall, I quite enjoyed this in the end - mainly because I love mcgregor as kenobi, and also because it kinda felt like a Clone Wars arc (especially the middle eps).

Roz, Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:07 (one week ago) link

also kind of lol imagining this version of ewan mcgregor aging into alec guinness in just 10-15 years

This is Alec Guinnes in a film 11 years older than Star Wars pic.twitter.com/BaJ9X5tzxF

— Ben Banyas (@benbanyas) June 22, 2022

Actually pretty wild how much they look alike pic.twitter.com/igAd8V20FW

— Ben Banyas (@benbanyas) June 22, 2022

:)

Roz, Thursday, 23 June 2022 16:11 (one week ago) link

have to admit that refusing to kill Vader after absolutely messing him up and going upside his dome with a lightsaber is a funny power move

might even outrank leaving him on fire by the side of a lava flow

three more seasons of Obi-Wan, and each ends with Vader getting owned in ridiculous ways

mh, Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:07 (one week ago) link

i like how Vader’s fighting style in this series has fully devolved into hacking & chopping like a madman as he gets further & further away from his jedi roots.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:38 (one week ago) link

he learned how to pop and lock from the Emperor and sometimes he gets those trainings confused

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:38 (one week ago) link

one-handed broadsword action

mh, Thursday, 23 June 2022 17:44 (one week ago) link

Loved wheezing half masked Vader. Ewan was the best part of this show, and he was the main character so that really works. I like Mando better, but everyone else in my house thought this was the best.

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:27 (one week ago) link

Reva's actions make no sense if she doesn't know Luke is Darth Jr. And that is a pretty good hint that she knows.

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 23 June 2022 18:29 (one week ago) link

This was boring infill despite mcgregor’s ok performance. The inquisitors were meh. In part I didn’t care because I felt I knew how this “needs to work out.”

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Saturday, 25 June 2022 03:37 (one week ago) link

that might have been a YOU thing

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 25 June 2022 04:10 (one week ago) link

lol u mad

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Saturday, 25 June 2022 04:11 (one week ago) link

The iquisitors inquire -- "do you even WANT to be happy?"

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 25 June 2022 04:15 (one week ago) link

Anyway, I no doubt received some benefit from seeing this with young and fresh eyes. But for fucks sake McGregor was better than "ok".

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 25 June 2022 04:18 (one week ago) link

no

mh, Saturday, 25 June 2022 05:54 (one week ago) link

Despite my fondness for what appears to be McGregor’s irl personality (cf Long Way Down etc.) I find him pretty tedious as an actor post Trainspotting. But I bought his grief in part 6 of this, the fight was the best thing in it (and felt mythical in the way I wanted the whole show to feel).

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 25 June 2022 08:39 (one week ago) link

I guess MacGregor was trying his best to infuse the script with something? But apart from the lack of tension re knowing where everyone ends up - I also feel Obi-Wan, like Boba Fett, is a character that doesn’t really support extended examination? Like, he was a pretty cool kindly space wizard in one film - everything else feels pretty tedious and awkwardly retrofitted.

But maybe people who were the right age for prequels / Clone Wars might have found it easier to lock in to?

the life of a rebo band is always intense (emsworth), Saturday, 25 June 2022 10:16 (one week ago) link

These characters were just undeveloped. Boba Fett was originally nothing more than a cool costume. Everything after the first film has been retrofit, so I don't know what makes one case more tedious than another.

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 25 June 2022 10:45 (one week ago) link

McGregor did a good job IMHO... his last scene with Leia worked on me emotionally despite everything being so terribly underwritten and shoehorned in. agreed about no one having real conversations in this. i feel like every time two characters seem poised to have an interaction that would actually be interesting (and difficult) to write, the show cuts away to something else.

my comic book guy moment: what happened to the star destroyer that Vader came down from? it seems like that would pose some small issue for Obi-Wan's getaway. it seems to just be.... not there. if they're so easily evaded, then it kinda deflates his grand self-sacrificing gesture.

also i really wanted jimmy smits to be like "c'mon, we got all dressed up, you could at least stay for lunch!"

Doctor Casino, Saturday, 25 June 2022 13:49 (one week ago) link

mouse ears appear on Smits' head. "C'mon, we're heading to Oga's Cantina for Jabba Juice and Batuu Bits, loser."

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 25 June 2022 16:17 (one week ago) link

Boba Fett was originally nothing more than a cool costume. Everything after the first film has been retrofit, so I don't know what makes one case more tedious than another.

IMO, it’s because it’s not comics, where retconning just happens continuously and it’s accepted as part of how the fictional universe is received. When you have stories that sit on their own for a few decades, then are “retrofitted,”then once again a few decades later… you feel it a different way.

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Saturday, 25 June 2022 16:49 (one week ago) link

(Also, for all the jokes about “Comic Book Guy”–style complaints, at least comics have No-Prizes and retcon adjustments etc. to clean up the narrative messes they make.)

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:11 (one week ago) link

I think the point is more "these are very slight in terms of retcons and to some aren't really that jarring". it's not like Terminator 3 changing John and Sarah Connor's birthdates randomly due to laziness, or Uncle Jesse on Full House being shown in high school the day before his graduation, then seasons later saying he dropped out of high school early on

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:26 (one week ago) link

just about every epic fantasy movie is filled with unreliable narrators

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:26 (one week ago) link

But no one cares about that stuff in sitcoms, no matter how much they enjoy them – they’re just sitcoms

If the argument is that Luke Skywalker is no different from Andy in Family Ties, then it’s just: “Star Wars has always sucked, what are you complaining about” (which I do see people saying a lot)

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:38 (one week ago) link

Like it’s a weird dichotomy to be invested enough in Star Wars to still be watching spinoffs 40 years later, but also say that it’s all just a silly lark? Idk

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:39 (one week ago) link

Not what *I'm* saying, though. Star Wars has never been tightly plotted or had consistent continuity doesn't mean "lol it always sucked", but "this never bothered me in the past when they did it, why should it now?"

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:57 (one week ago) link

Add a period after "continuity"

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:58 (one week ago) link

Or basically what mh said way upthread

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:58 (one week ago) link

The people who didn't like this show generally don't dislike it on continuity grounds, it's due to many things, like a "lack of stakes"

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 25 June 2022 17:59 (one week ago) link

I guess I get your pov, but I don’t feel like it gets “better” the more it happens and in crappier contexts. The first few movies are great enough that a few little quirks and inconsistencies don’t matter much.

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Saturday, 25 June 2022 18:00 (one week ago) link

If Obi-Wan were a great show, I likely wouldn’t care too much about the inconsistencies either.

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Saturday, 25 June 2022 18:01 (one week ago) link

There is story about navigating through trauma that has stakes and fits nicely into the usual jedi vs darkside theme. The stakes around Reva's story were largely open. Not every stake needs to be "will they die?!"

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 25 June 2022 18:06 (one week ago) link

Like it’s a weird dichotomy to be invested enough in Star Wars to still be watching spinoffs 40 years later, but also say that it’s all just a silly lark? Idk

sir do you know what “entertainment” is

mh, Monday, 27 June 2022 13:29 (one week ago) link

I think so

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Monday, 27 June 2022 14:59 (one week ago) link

a smash of glass and the rumble of boots
a hovertrain and a ripped-up storm troop

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:10 (one week ago) link

the Star Wars faded into darkness
I was left alone

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Monday, 27 June 2022 18:55 (one week ago) link

I was surprised how much I liked this show. McGregor was always one of the better parts of the prequels, and here he has better material to work with. Reva and kid Leia were interesting enough characters. Mandalorian is probably still better overall, but I liked the tight focus and faster pace here

Vinnie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 12:45 (one week ago) link

Yeah I liked this a lot too. Thought McGregor was very good (much much better that what I remember of the prequels). Reva was good too up until the last episode, where her actions made very little sense to me, even if she somehow figured out that Luke was Vader's son.

Liked Darth Vader in this, though maybe, because I read some of those Darth Vader comics (which are actually one of the Star Wars things I enjoyed the most), I was reading way more into the character than what was actually on the screen.

silverfish, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 16:02 (one week ago) link

For sure a lot of the enjoyment of this show boils down to the Obi-Wan/Darth conflict, culminating in that stunning fight in the finale. Though I did think the line where Darth says he himself killed Anakin was eye-rolling, clearly there to justify the "certain point of view" conversation in Return of the Jedi

Vinnie, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 23:22 (one week ago) link

Well of course it was eye-rolling, you could see his eye again.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 03:30 (six days ago) link

heyo!

Nhex, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 04:04 (six days ago) link

You could have also made that a certain point of view joke, Ned

Vinnie, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:23 (six days ago) link

Well you know.

Andor en route soon and this bit directly from Tony Gilroy about how they're structuring the two seasons is of interest. (As it may or may not be spoliery for some, follow the link as you choose.)

Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 July 2022 15:55 (yesterday) link

“Rogue One is more about an event than the actual journey of (the) characters,” he says. “It’s quite amazing to start a show where it’s not about where we can end – it’s about, how did we end there?”

Cool, but I can’t help feeling this is a case of wishful thinking / doth protesting too much!

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Monday, 4 July 2022 16:07 (yesterday) link

Yeah. Mandalorian was exhilarating for me because it was like finally they’re doing a tales of star wars/weird aliens and worlds/characters whose fate is unwritten/stakes may or may not be high type thing which they really should’ve pivoted to 35 years ago! But no.

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Monday, 4 July 2022 16:49 (yesterday) link

Better Call Cassian

nashwan, Monday, 4 July 2022 16:54 (yesterday) link

I didn’t even find that character very likable. Doesn’t he murder a guy in the opening scene of rogue one?

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Monday, 4 July 2022 16:58 (yesterday) link

The whole “what even are mandalorians, and are some offshoot cultists?” was like my fave angle of Mandalorian

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 July 2022 17:43 (yesterday) link

xp didn't hurt Saul's likability any

Herby Dutch Baby (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 July 2022 17:45 (yesterday) link

I never watched Breaking Bad/Saul, so maybe I’m not the audience

Bunheads Pilot Enthusiast (morrisp), Monday, 4 July 2022 17:49 (yesterday) link


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