the Disney-Fox merger and film/TV production/exhibition hegemony in general

let's keep the bitching in here and out of the MCU threads. There will be plenty of bigger considerations down the line, but imo this list of cancelled (and not cancelled) projects is quite telling

According to THR, Horn has already dropped the Tom Hanks period drama News of the World from Fox's production slate, along with the Angie Thomas novel adaptation On the Come Up and Mouse Guard. Woody Harrelson's mental hospital dramedy Fruit Loops is similarly expected to be cancelled in the near future, especially since it was one of the films being developed by Fox 2000 prior to its closure. THR's sources also say the decision to drop On the Come Up was the result of The Hate U Give - another film adaptation of Thomas' work - losing Fox $30 to 40 million at last year's box office, despite being all but universally praised by critics.

Among the developing Fox movies that Disney's expected to keep are Matthew Vaughn's prequel Kingsman: The Great Game, the R.L. Stine Fear Street adaptation, Kenneth Branagh's Death on the Nile (a sequel to his Murder on the Orient Express adaptation), and Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake. The latter, amusingly enough, has nevertheless caused some ire over plans to show characters smoking in the film (something that's taboo in Disney movies these days). The Ryan Reynolds-led video game comedy Free Guy is also staying put for the time being, and there's a good chance that The Ballad of Richard Jewell - a docudrama about the security guard that foiled the 1996 Atlanta Olympics bombing attempt - will land a green-light at Fox, with Clint Eastwood potentially directing.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/multiple-fox-films-getting-axed-at-disney-1204252

this is also a fine place to complain about the ever-widening constellation of streaming services and their shrinking collective library

I think your last point really gets at something that is incredibly infuriating everyone. So many streaming services. I can only predict that as they become more and more proprietary and more and more subscriptions are required to get our movies/sports/TV, they will eventually start offering them as bundles. Just like cable. But inventively more expensive. And then we'll be back where we started but hey, more money for the two or three companies that survive!

it’s like they WANT us to pirate stuff tbh

Woody Harrelson's mental hospital dramedy Fruit Loops is similarly expected to be cancelled in the near future

I can't find any pieces yet on what this merger will mean for the accessibility of the 20th Century Fox film roster down the line, but I can find about 50 pieces on what this means for the X-Men, which also tells you a lot.

I subscribe to a bunch of services. But sometimes I'll have something in my queue and when I finally get around to watching it, it's suddenly gone, poof. So I download it. And occasionally said something comes back sometime before I watch whatever I downloaded, but it's so hard to keep up with the hundreds of things queued up and coming and going across several services that there really was no way of me knowing.

idk, Netflix used to have a sick library of movies on DVD and Blu Ray but everyone would rather stream garbage. Turner tried to make Filmstruck work but, again, everyone would rather stream garbage.

Starting to get real hard to blame the companies for simply responding to the market

and here’s our first scorching hot take of the thread, i’m gonna give it 8/10, would have been a 9 if it had mentioned sheeple

it's what happened. people prized the convenience of streaming over quality/choices of DVD and here we are.

yes, we the people brought this upon ourselves, our kindly corporate friends had no choice but to punish us thusly

The Ballad of Richard Jewell - a docudrama about the security guard that foiled the 1996 Atlanta Olympics bombing attempt - will land a green-light at Fox, with Clint Eastwood potentially directing

This sounds almost as bad as the Woody Harrelson thing.

wow, an extra $10 a month so bizarro gazzara can watch Ant-Man, what a punishment!

the Cult of Eastwood continues to perplex me tbh

Like, yeah, I hate monopolies too, but I don’t see how Netflix/Apple/Spotify funneling everything through three tech companies is GOOD, but Disney breaking up that model is BAD

Isn’t this thread about how both are bad

well, yeah

ppl can feel free to defend either development if they feel like it!

If Disney is gonna keep it real and post like all 57 Walt Disney Animation Studios (minus Song of the South, obv) and the 20 Pixar joints, and the Simpsons run in the correct aspect ratio and not do selective releases from the "vault" ... I ... wouldn't be mad at any of that?

they can re-up Song of the South but only if they replace the audio with Bob Iger saying "you are a bad person" over and over

I can't find any pieces yet on what this merger will mean for the accessibility of the 20th Century Fox film roster down the line

maybe because you don't need to look down the line? Disney already cancelled nearly all bookings of 20th films last week. basically if somewhere already has a print they're allowed to pay to show it, but you can't screen anything from the catalogue otherwise

There seems to be some dispute over whether that's a permanent issue or a temporary legal hiccup.

Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake
Steven Spielberg's West Side Story remake

Steven Spielberg’s BFG remake
Steven Spielberg’s Tintin remake
Steven Spielberg’s War Horse remake
Steven Spielberg’s War Of The Worlds remake
Steven Spielberg’s Peter Pan remake

Hook is a sequel not a remake

it’s a remake of the sequel to Peter Pan, except with the plot of Peter Pan

i don't consider adapted screenplays to be remakes but i get your point.

the first West Side Story was an adapted screenplay too! I only named ones that had also previously been adapted into films, most of his shit is based on books, whether fiction or non-fiction

also previously been adapted into films, other media

(Peter Pan was adapted into a book and several films, War Horse was a remake of the stage adaptation AIUI, all the Tintins in the Spielberg movie had been TV cartoons twice and one had been a feature, War Of The Worlds has been eleventy-billion movies and plays and radio shows and shadow puppet performances, BFG had been a comic strip and a play and the 1989 Cosgrove Hall joint with David Jason)

it's what happened. people prized the convenience of streaming over quality/choices of DVD and here we are.

― ebro the letter (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, April 26, 2019 4:40 PM (three days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is otm. When I tell friends I still get Netflix DVDs through the mail they react with astonishment, as if I told them I've decided to give up electricity. This weekend somebody saw a red envelope on my coffee table, pointed to it and literally said "Oh my god, have you been saving that all this time as a memento?!" All of these same friends complain about there not being enough things on streaming that they like, and say things like "I watched 3 seasons of (show x) this week, it was just meh." Reminds me of the Onion op-ed from years ago along the lines of "Can you believe the shit they force me to watch on television?"

kind of off-topic, but sometimes I'll start on a Netflix series and realize quickly that it's diverting but not actually good; I find at this point the most time-effective approach is to look up what happens on Wikipedia or a set of recaps, then move onto something else.

"Oh my god, have you been saving that all this time as a memento?!"

lol

One of the absolute best things about moving to the Los Angeles area is there's still independent video stores out here

Toronto still has a couple, shockingly.

hosted the crew of ghost-hunting show the other day while they exploited local culture for the entertainment of people whose crippling brain damage has left them with nothing better to watch and me and the sound guy in the dead ringers shirt reminisced about portland's MOVIE MADNESS-- still there!

Gotta say, for a time when streaming media is in the ascendant, boutique physical media companies are totally killing it. Like if you're inclined to blame Netflix et al for snuffing out the home video market, you're neither paying attention nor supporting the current embarrassment of blu-ray riches with your dollar votes.

xpost -- wait hold on, that's quite a setup.

i didn't know which to envy more: their remote video monitor (wireless splitscreen from multiple cameras!) or their veil-piercing communications apparatus. anyway, turns out my theater has night marchers

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5-n8e3XsAEIVpd.jpg

bully

Untitled boot stamping on a human face forever

wow, so every disney is getting a live action remake huh
Major headline for me is that Nimona is gonna be a big big deal and that Noelle Stevenson is hella rich

Maybe it's just me but feels like they weren't really trying when they settled on these movie titles.

Man all four people who give any fucks about Avatar have gotta be STOKED.

lmao that Cameron is apparently shooting the 4 Avatar sequels (5 is penned in for 2027) concurrently, meaning even if the first one underperforms they'll still have 3 left to promote

I'm a little surprised that Disney hasn't pulled back on the reins with that impending disaster.

TBF, both titanic and avatar were hailed as an impending disaster and then become the biggest things in the history of movies so it's tough to bet against him until he loses
i also think he will lose this time btw

I reeeeeeeeally need to be convinced that Avatar 2-4 will be a disaster beyond Very Online people saying variations of "no one remembers this"

Disney World built a whole themed area for it, it's the second biggest-selling Blu Ray of all time after FROZEN and I haven't seen any evidence that America won't gladly slurp down every PG-13 fan service sequel save, like, "Wow, Solo only made 393 million dollars"

Also, it's been so long, I can see them re-releasing Avatar 1 in theaters

There's a whole Cirque du Soliel touring act about Avatar

as others have pointed out, the one upside to this schedule: no Deadpool shit since Disney is only interested in PG-13 flicks

following "the rider", i will be down for the choe zhao Eternals movie but boy am i having a hard time imagining how that will pan out

I'm kind of impressed they're still going to go for more movies based on rides that have no real story

can't wait for JUNGLE CRUISE

I love Disney so much and it bums me out that all the attention is going towards stuff I don't care about: Marvel movies/Star Wars/live action remakes.

Get me an immersive Arendelle with Ilsa's ice castle!

Ilsa's ice castle

sounds pretty dark

as others have pointed out, the one upside to this schedule: no Deadpool shit since Disney is only interested in PG-13 flicks

― Simon H., Tuesday, May 7, 2019 12:57 PM (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not so. Feige has already telegraphed their intention to continue milking that particular cash cow.

I'm kind of impressed they're still going to go for more movies based on rides that have no real story

can't wait for JUNGLE CRUISE

― mh, Tuesday, May 7, 2019 2:00 PM (forty-three seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean the Pirates of the Carribbean franchise made $4.5 billion, so that can write off a few of these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnlMvollAkY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U32Law7K-b8

IIRC Disney approached Cameron about building an Avatar attraction because they had lost out on Harry Potter several years prior, and at the time Avatar was only two years old. Had they waited another year, the Lucasfilm acquisition would have taken place and they might have gone straight for a Star Wars attraction.

I don't think Avatar 2-4 (or 5?) will have the same kind of success as the first one, but I doubt they are going to lose money.

I mean, nobody seems to like those Transformers movies either and they made a ton of money. Online discourse is really only a tiny fraction of public opinion.

"I remember how excited I was the first time my dad took me to see an Avatar movie, I'm so happy to be able to share that special moment with my own children!"

Also, like, outside of a theme park attraction and Blu-Ray sales, what's its place in popular culture? Do people still talk about Avatar a lot, or learn Navi or whatever? It may have made money but it seems to have left no cultural footprint whatsoever otherwise.

My son's introduction to avatar was the avatar ride in Disney World. I could totally see him wanting to see these movies just because of that.

its weird to realize that there was a movie as big as avatar that didnt get a sequel for over 12 years. hard to imagine that ever happening again in the current climate. thats even longer than the time between revenge of the sith and force awakens

The ride is undeniably awesome. However, the lead-in to the ride was a ten-minute video loosely recapping the plot of Avatar because who the fuck remembers what happened in Avatar.

NB, I saw Avatar for the first time earlier this year.

Have not seen avatar yet, do not think that will change in this lifetime.

I didn't think it would, either. The things we do for love.

Also, like, outside of a theme park attraction and Blu-Ray sales, what's its place in popular culture? Do people still talk about Avatar a lot, or learn Navi or whatever? It may have made money but it seems to have left no cultural footprint whatsoever otherwise.

The number of people who spent hundreds of dollars visiting the Avatar theme park in 2018 is roughly the same as the number of US viewers who watched the most recent ep of game of thrones, seems like a massive cultural footprint tbh, just not talked about on twitter as much

there were those folks who got depressed that they couldn't live on navi

oh pandora even

Avatar Land was pretty cool and has some nice environmental design but I don't see it being a huge draw for terribly long, particularly once Star Wars Land opens. Like the Navi restaurant was kind of a turdburger.

Not so. Feige has already telegraphed their intention to continue milking that particular cash cow.

ok so there is no upside

C'mon, don't pretend you aren't excited for that live-action Home on the Range remake.

I forgot the existence of a Haunted Mansion movie but my friend who would watch horrible movies and then fast forward through to show me the "highlights" showed me part of Country Bears

completely stock script, with Christopher Walken as the human foil

When clearly he should've been playing all of the bears instead.

I didn't think it would, either. The things we do for love.

Enchanted Tiki Room movie or gtfo

I also strongly want them to bring back Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride, unchanged, and then make a movie about it

xxpost Oh, it just means I once took my once-strident stance against watching Avatar and threw it in the gutter like so much dishwater just because my gf asked me to, no big.

I also strongly want them to bring back Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride, unchanged, and then make a movie about it

there have already been several films but Disney did not manage to steal the IP as effectively as they did with Milne

the Python / Coogan one is p dece iirc

lol I looked it up and it got dumped in NYC porn theaters at theatrical US release, then Disney picked it up for video and retitled it after their theme park ride

welp

this is otm. When I tell friends I still get Netflix DVDs through the mail they react with astonishment, as if I told them I've decided to give up electricity. This weekend somebody saw a red envelope on my coffee table, pointed to it and literally said "Oh my god, have you been saving that all this time as a memento?!"

lol otm. It's not students in front of whom I have to explain my attachment to Netfix: it's so-called adults over thirty who don't get that you can't stream every fucking thing.

hmmm there was a 2006 Wind In The Willows by a future Dr Who director, starring two future Dr Who companions and Bob Hoskins

nah, I'll be right, ta

then Disney picked it up for video and retitled it after their theme park ride

their secret of survival in a v nasty world iirc

I was more referring to a movie based on the ride, which I believe they decommissioned. It was nearly original to Disney World, and was flat cartoon images on the walls and a car that followed a twisty track through a relatively tiny building

Not a wild ride

(Wind in the Willows book is great)

Avatar was the first movie to be a huge hit in China. I believe the sequels make their money back internationally, even if they don't do so well in the US.

Christopher Robin: The Movie: The Ride: Avatar Edition

you don virtual reality goggles to experience life as a frustrated workaholic middle-aged man. your childhood hallucination, Pooh, returns to take you in a journey to the world of Avatar

in related news

NEWS: Viacom and CBS boards agree to merge, according to an executive with direct knowledge of the deal. Details to follow.

— David Folkenflik (@davidfolkenflik) August 13, 2019

Does Viacom have one good and popular current show outside of South Park and Spongebob?

i don't live in the US anymore but... those are "current" shows??

LOL

I would think the appeal is in the brands themselves and not individual pieces of content

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Viacom

They are still coming out with new seasons! South Park is still funny! Spongebob may have jumped the shark after Hillenburg left, but I haven't really been paying attention to new 'Bobs

yeah recent SP has been good

I mean, it's just such a different era than like 10 years ago when Viacom was just dominating with Jon Stewart Daily Show and Jersey Shore

yeah. CC has some other good content (I love Corporate for example) but AFAIK the ones you cited are the obvious stalwarts

oh for the days when jersey shore ruled the tube

well this sucks

wasn’t sure if i was allowed to say anything about this yet but it’s true, all of our fox contacts were fired and we’ve been all but straight up told as an indie theater that we can no longer book fox titles (rep or smaller new releases), but congrats on the fantastic four movie https://t.co/dfY1GSmc6X

— josh lewis (@thejoshl) August 27, 2019

Curious as to how that would affect Rocky Horror screenings, although I guess most theatres still doing them own their own copies on disc or DCP.

this seems to indicate rocky horror is an exception but who knows - https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2019-08-09/will-disney-let-theaters-screen-old-fox-movies

I foresee theatrical speakeasies in our future.

Disney’s long-standing policy is to not allow first-run theaters or commercial discount cinemas to screen movies from its library, whether it’s an animated classic such as “Lady and the Tramp” or a more adult-oriented film such as “The Sixth Sense.”

I'm confused now, doesn't first-run theatres mean, well, most theatres? Wiki says "First-run theater: A theater that runs primarily mainstream film fare from the major film companies and distributors, during the initial new release period of each film." - is it usually used in contrast with big chains or something?

yes most cinemas, the only ones allowed screen films from the library will be those that only show repertory screenings

First-Run theatres that would be effected would mainly be Alamo Drafthouses, art houses that do midnight shows of stuff other than RHPS, and chain theatres that do Fathom Events satellite screenings.

So this is the rep rather than the smaller new releases, then.

disney has long kept its repertory on a super tight leash - the only non-current release of theirs i've ever seen big was a spellbinding showing of Snow White at a glorious 1920s movie palace a couple years ago. this being extended to the entire 20th century fox library is a very daunting prospect.

XP Yeah, but it's been speculated that those smaller Fox releases will be fewer and further between, as supposedly Disney has cancelled a number of risky projects and downsized departments at the studio specializing in such fare.

(my reminisce above excludes pre-1990-ish proper theatrical rereleases, including what may have been my first ever cinema experience... Song of the South)

heh, i remember seeing Song of the South as a kid at a local grocery store that was screening it (i'm sure illegally) against a back wall

forks, you're my age I think, and there was a full theatrical rerelease in 1986.

I have a vague memory of maybe a screening in my elementary school cafeteria in Florida ca. 86 or 87? And/or some sort of speaker telling Brer Rabbit/Uncle Remus stories as some sort of historical thing?

I foresee theatrical speakeasies in our future.

Recreating the movie theater experience as an act of transgression?

whiney, i think i woulda seen that bootleg screening before the re-release; I know I owned the clamshell vhs at one point. the historical uncle remus stories from Harris and the disney ones alike were not only accepted but beloved when i was growing up; i do recall having an elementary class drawing assignment where we were all tasked with drawing "tar babies"
the times they do change

My parents took me to see Song of the South in the early 80s. Seems like a really weird thing for them to do in retrospect.

Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah is still a jam though.

We sang "Zip-A-Dee-Do-Dah" at my kindergarten graduation in 1989.

Was it a wonderful day?

Sort of. To learn it, we had to watch the scene over and over again on VHS. Don't remember if was an official cassette, or taped from tv.

it should go without saying (though perhaps it doesn't) that i have no genuine nostalgia for this sort of ugliness, just a kind of sadness that this style of racist youth indoctrination was once so unremarkable that i didn't even notice it was happening

we got shown it in my elementary school gymnasium, on what i suppose was 16mm. the only other movie to get this treatment was.... The Black Hole

my niece adores Song of the South (and fully understands the historical context etc); my brother bought a DVD or VHS of it years ago on eBay and learned the hard way what NTSC and PAL were

I shouldn't count Fathom out just yet, as I've just seen an ad for a TCM-sponsored presentation of Alien happening in October (although that may have been OK'd prior to the latest upheavals).

So this is the rep rather than the smaller new releases, then.

It doesn't seem likely that he would have specified smaller mew releases if it didn't also mean smaller new releases.

Studios', but especially Disney's given their dominace of releases, first-run policies are also fucking independent theatres. A four-screen house in south Seattle had to abandon rep in toto last year, when they went from showing things like '50s Hitchcock and Le Roi de couer and Harold & Maude and Society to a summer program of '80s hits like Bill & Ted, and the prices got jacked on them. They've now closed their fourth screen altogether and are $250k behind in rent because Disney's new Aladdin sucked shit and ppl didn't want to see it:

We've gotten to a point where we can't keep up with the demands that the major studios want. If you want to open up a Marvel film and have that big, front-loaded movie, it's going to make all of its money in the weekend when it's first released. The studio is going to tell you, "This is our tentpole feature, you're going to have to cough up so much money as a guarantee so that we can get you a print…to play the film and we [also] want 65% of your gross."

So, what happened to us was we couldn't make the progression from playing first-run family film[s]. The last one that we could afford to get in an opening first run was Aladdin. Well, the audiences didn't show up for Aladdin, so Aladdin couldn't get us to a point where we could open Toy Story 4. So we had to open Toy Story 4 later, and Toy Story didn't help us get to a point where we could open Lion King because we couldn't come up with the guarantee that the studios have a right to demand.

The real heartbreaker was opening up Sony's Spiderman: Homecoming. It did okay but it didn't make enough money for us to guarantee what the studio demanded to open Once Upon A Time...in Hollywood. So we couldn't open OUATIH which would have probably made pretty good gross for us here… so we had to opt out of it.

I shouldn't count Fathom out just yet, as I've just seen an ad for a TCM-sponsored presentation of Alien happening in October (although that may have been OK'd prior to the latest upheavals).

The thread by the Revue programmer up there specifies that tonight is the last time they will be able to play Alien, because it was booked before this week.

(I do suspect the combo of Fathom and TCM will have more swing with the new Disney bookers than one guy in Toronto with 1,800 twitter followers, but it still might not be much swing.)

Our local Landmark theatre does regular weekend midnight screenings programmed like that Seattle house (plus The Room once a month and RHPS w/a shadow cast once every 2-3 weeks). I was just checking their schedule, which somewhat surprisingly was loaded with Fox stuff for the past few weeks and the next couple.

Some time back, I went to a midnight showing of Repo Man, which got started late. Those of us waiting got into a spirited discussion w/the theatre bartender, who mentioned that The Room and RHPS screenings, plus ringers like The Big Lebowski and Hitchcock/Kubrick revivals pretty much underwrote everything else.

Same for the main London rep - a lot of gimmicky stuff like a Studio Ghibli all-nighter, a 1999 Teen Movie all-nighter, Mean Girl quote-along, and "The Room w/ Tommy Wiseau Live on Stage" (7 times over 5 days, but it seems like it happens every month)

sic’s quoted post is heartbreaking because the films smaller theaters that try for mostly indie fair but aren’t exclusive coast on major releases and would make bank on a Tarantino pic and they’re getting fucked by the on-major, won’t boost smaller theater status

the fully international/repertory local theater is closing and I feel like the other is going to be british/french/a24 pics all the time now

yeah there's a lot of weird theater booking bs like that that hurts smaller theaters (smaller being any non-chain theater, but even the Alamos are included in this)

I'm wondering how this will end up hitting Alamo. They do big business here both with new features and older ones.

I suspect they're the ones most capable of weathering things out. I'm just four blocks away from the SF one but there's clearly enough of a base for them to do pretty reasonable/random one-offs. (That said A24 almost seems like their house label at this point.)

Alamo should be fine. They can manage the studio demands/requirements, and losing access to Fox/Disney rep titles isn't as big a loss (if they lose access at all?.

i would guess that "experience" theaters are best equipped to manage fuckups with film access; most people attending dinner theater aren't super picky about the play they're seeing

Didn't know anything about this until the Revue, a rep theatre I go to frequently, posted this on their bulletin board yesterday:

http://www.thestar.com/business/2019/08/28/indie-cinema-says-disney-cutting-off-access-to-20th-century-fox-film-archives.html

When they played a trailer for an upcoming screening of Phantom of the Paradise, they prefaced it with "Final screening ever."

I won't be in Toronto much longer, but the place where I'm headed has one rep theatre that'll have the same issues. Too bad. (Going to look into which of my favourite films are 20th Century Fox.)

Alamo's special for me, i mostly go see reps, several times a week. for the past few years my local location has been amazing, and the manager just quit due to some corporate attitude changes regarding rep programming. Sadly it sounds like they're going to become less a more profit-motivated, less unique chain

Whenever we couldn't get a screening because Disney owned it was bad enough, it's gonna be so much worse now

Treating every single vintage Fox title like a Disney Cash cow shouldn't/isn't be smart business, and the only reason repercussions won't be felt is company is insulted enough, money-wise, thanks to all the new cash cows they've recently acquired to exploit.

Yeah I mean...I don't really understand the angle, long-term. Even if you load Disney+ with every Fox title ever released, you're still only getting $6.99 per month per household.

They get to kill cinema

I think it boils down to them thinking any screen not showing a new Disney movie is bad. Plus if they put theaters out of business that wouldn't show Disney movies anyway, more the better

also: evil

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kzH1iaKVsBM/hqdefault.jpg

Yeah I mean...I don't really understand the angle, long-term. Even if you load Disney+ with every Fox title ever released, you're still only getting $6.99 per month per household.

I assume that Disney's strategy will be to shunt everything that is not their idea of family-friendly over to Hulu, on the assumption that viewers will subscribe to a pricier package. But my initial response to Disney's dog-in-the-mangerishness is to go in even further on p|r@(y.

Noticed some heavy hitters gone from Netflix today, notably Mulan. :-(

counterpoint: streaming contracts are bad enough already, it would be catastrophic if Netflix were able to show things for 1000 years without paying for them again

Is this the first movie to be newly branded as “Disney” even though it was a Fox movie? https://t.co/aOa7NCVu7m

— Keith Calder except spooky because it's October (@keithcalder) October 14, 2019

pic.twitter.com/7fBg8dprtq

— Peter LabuzAAAHH! (@labuzamovies) October 14, 2019

the disney and the hound (1981)

lol bg

Disney's The Swamp Disney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADesK3Wa_D0

I find it odd that they add the floating brand name to all their kid-friendly movies. It used to be Walt Disney's or Walt Disney (Pictures) Presents, now it's just Disney. can't wait for Disney Disney's The Kid.

woah snap, Shipwrecked is on there - might be a deal-maker for yours truly

"How dare Coppola say mean things about Marvel movies when he made [random bad movie]" is a weak sneer. Every filmmaker with a real body of work makes some bad movies. Stop whining, nobody's gonna take your precious two-and-a-half-star superhero films away.

— Mark Harris (@MarkHarrisNYC) October 20, 2019

The problem with Coppola's career go a bit beyond 'made some bad movies', though. Some of the blame for why directors have less freedom these days has to go to the seventies directors and how they handled the trust they were given.

I'm fine with Scorsese being discussed here, as soon as he makes a film set this millennium.

how'd you miss all the flip phones in the depahhhhted? also alec baldwin woo-hooing the patriot act.

A compromise is possible

figured it out.... marvel fans can call their movies “cimena”
• it’s not “cinema” so martin will be happy
• still pretty close to “cinema”
• you sound like a widdle baby when you say it, which you are

— jos (@josiahhughes) October 21, 2019

It’s just very funny how insecure nerds are in their complete cultural supremacy. Like calm down, Disney will be fine, they will keep shitting these things out forever whether or not acclaimed directors say they’re good when asked by interviewers. Unfortunately.

these same directors loved the B-movie dross of their own childhood (as do I!), it definitely stinks of "old man yelling at cloud" shenanigans

There is much to love in ye olde B Movie dross that doesn't apply to the machine-tooled fan servicey precision of your modern comicbook movies

yeah, like humanity

this millennium is boring

yeah I think I meant to use "sterility" rather than "precision"

Dr Morbius will today be played by Mel Brooks.

The Superhero movies aren't B-movies by any definition of the term. Also, I hate everyone on every side of this debate. The mega-directors of Hollywood who despair because two old idiots don't like what they do, and the two old idiots who wants to define what is cinema and what is not.

i'm not sure if giving your opinion when your asked a question about something is the same as wanting to gatekeep cinema

The real villains here are the idiot interviewers who keep thinking the most interesting thing you can ask a grandee of American cinema is “no for real though what about avenger 4”

i'm not sure if giving your opinion when your asked a question about something is the same as wanting to gatekeep cinema

― Xia Nu del Vague (Noodle Vague), 21. oktober 2019 15:15 (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

When the opinion is 'that is not cinema!' then I don't see the confusion?

The implication of that is "to me", I'm pretty sure he's not going to tell aficionados of the genre that they can't use the word

Oh, come on

Well if you want a moratorium on ridiculous generalising opinions

I do! Of course I do! They're bad.

and the two old idiots who wants to define what is cinema and what is not

Scorsese is not trying to police anyone's taste. As for being an idiot...

the whole kerfluffle reminds me of when I referred to the first Iron Man movie, shortly after release, as "kind of shitty" cultural entertainment to an ex's friend and I had to backtrack when it was clear I hurt his feelings

but really, it's fine to enjoy all kinds of movies and books, whatever, and not everything needs to make you question your norms or inspire more deliberate thought. I tried to explain that I'd probably be watching all the comic book movies myself, but as far as media consumption goes, it's not going to shake up your outlook on life or leave you pondering the message of the plot.

the inability of people to understand a couple of guys can share a negative take on their overproduced fairy tale movie adventures and it doesn't mean it's to be evaluated as an objective truth is something that's lost on people and it's frankly mystifying

we should section off theaters in the way we do bookstores: everything gets labeled as "cinema" (literature) or "genre fiction" and then people can argue forever about how there is/isn't a distinction

That's such a bad idea

thank you! that was the aim

The point Scorsese emphasized in his followup remarks is that the production of other kinds of films is ending bcz of the comic-book epics. Per this thread i posted elsewhere, that is a stone fact.

Thread: If you think "Every Movie In Theaters Is A Marvel Movie" is false let me tell you a little story. I chose BODIED to get a small theatrical run of about 15 theaters. These types of deals are pretty much ineffective and just filmmaker ego driven - vanity rewards.

— Joseph Kahn (@JosephKahn) October 14, 2019

But that's not the fault of 'super-hero' cinema! That's a logical continuation of the blockbuster / tentpole paradigm established by Lucas and Spielberg! Without Superheroes, Disney would still make exclusively remakes of old cartoons, and Warner Brothers would make a gritty reboot of The Wizard of Oz, or something.

That's same shithead as earlier - I notice you didn't post his tweet about how if Marvel want to make serious cinematic movies, they should look at what DC are doing.

bcz I don't give a fuck

a fuckitty flying fuckitty fuck, in fact

it's like the dietary equivalent of theaters serving a guaranteed four screens worth of Doritos every week, and if you blink and miss the moment they shove a nice dish out on the buffet for a week, you'll get more Doritos

I love some Doritos in moderation, but this is getting insane

gentlemen you can't kvetch about comicbook movies in here, this is the Disney-Fox thread

But that's not the fault of 'super-hero' cinema! That's a logical continuation of the blockbuster / tentpole paradigm established by Lucas and Spielberg! Without Superheroes, Disney would still make exclusively remakes of old cartoons, and Warner Brothers would make a gritty reboot of The Wizard of Oz, or something.

yeah but superhero movies are the movies that are doing it now, today - whatever their antecedents are, the effect theyre having is what it is. Its not like he should have said 'those movies aren't cinema, nor would a theoretical different bad movie be, if it were to be made in an alternate universe where comic book movies don't exist."

it's like the dietary equivalent of theaters serving a guaranteed four screens worth of Doritos every week, and if you blink and miss the moment they shove a nice dish out on the buffet for a week, you'll get more Doritos

I love some Doritos in moderation, but this is getting insane

gentlemen you can't kvetch about comicbook movies in here, this is the Disney-Fox thread

'not food' is the analogy there.

I think Scorsese et al would argue that what is being served is not cuisine

in any case, as a friend is fond of quoting, there are many things you can eat that are not food

Are there really people who believe that what Scorsese meant was that marvel movies are literally not movies?

'I hate all these burger bars, they're not cuisine'

That guy would be laughed at :)

Yes, it’s silly of him to prefer to eat better food

Are there really people who believe that what Scorsese meant was that marvel movies are literally not movies?

― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), 21. oktober 2019 18:49 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

He literally continued: Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. I think you're underestimating how stupid Scorsese is.

So the way you interpret that quote is that he is so stupid he literally thinks they are theme parks

Can somebody cut and paste the definition of "rhetoric" cos I can't be bothered

oh fred b has bullshit opinions on things other than politics? who knew

we oft misunderestimate him

i also wd prefer you not post an opinion on a film in response to me ever, fred

He literally continued: Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. I think you're underestimating how stupid Scorsese is.

It is bemusing how this is even controversial. People enjoy theme parks.

I think it's more bemusing that so many people want to defend the comments when they are obviously wrong and stupid.

imo both Scorsese and Coppola have comprehensible opinions *and* I enjoy most of these flicks

since I can't move beyond one analogy, it's like someone telling you they don't like a restaurant because the food is bland, but you go there on occasion because it's comfort food. you completely understand why they have no interest in it, but you're up for small doses yourself

I'm currently pondering what the first Fox property is that Disney will remake. Live action version of Fox Animation's Anastastia? Hrrm, probably not

many xps to the morbs tweet but, director's point aside, Bodied kind of sucked.

I think of superhero movies as in the same category as Broadway spectaculars; there are good and bad ones and some can be subversive and some are poisonous and occasionally there's a run of Uncle Vanya. More often it is variants on The Black Crook.
https://www.nypl.org/blog/2011/06/02/musical-month-black-crook

The crying over this is some ugly sore winner shit imo, whole industries devoted to catering to your shitty tastes but you still get to come the embattled outsider because the old man was MEAN about captain America wah

A while ago I came up with the idea for a gritty reboot of “it’s a good life”, that classic twilight zone ep where the kid is the centre of the universe and so everyone else is forced to watch the same baby programme and have birthday cake for dinner every single day. The only thing thing you need to change is make him a 30something and the punishment for any reaction short of rictus-grin approbation is to be turned into a funko pop

well said

although, prior to these comments, I would imagine a bunch of these people would buy a Scorsese or Coppola funko pop

they probably still would, because they have to have a full collection

'sore winner' or not, at the end of the day what Scorsese and Coppola is saying is just straight up wrong. and stupid. and that's honestly more important to me than who is an outsider or an underdog or whatever.

yes, they have opinions about art that are "wrong". a thing that definitely exists

btw Maleficent II "underperformed" at the b.o.

yes, they have opinions about art that are "wrong". a thing that definitely exists

― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), 21. oktober 2019 21:36 (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Whatever, you're too full of bullshit to continue on communicating with. I'm going to listen to my favorite country record, Original Pirate Material.

"Show me on this Funko Pop where the mean old directors touched you..."

when did movie box office first become a spectator sport that the public took sides with? Star Wars?
it's a perverse thing to engage in imo but i am as guilty as the next person of wanting to be an INSIDER

Probably about 10 minutes after Spielberg took this ad out in Variety.

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/566f52cc3da6b2362869d83a/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/star-wars-pop-culture-ss01.jpg

"Your hyperspace performance package"?

Saucy

he meant cocaine

Big Hyperspace Performance Package Energy

#1 film for more than five parsecs

https://www.vulture.com/2019/10/disney-is-quietly-placing-classic-fox-movies-into-its-vault.html

the fucks are at it again

this is infuriating tbh

starting to think disney might suck and be bad, honestly

just let people enjoy things you monster

but i enjoy thinking disney sucks and is bad :(

More like a 'Tragic Kingdom', amirite?

no doubt

Disney+ is good now

https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-jim-henson-company-is-bringing-an-alien-talk-show-c-1839355960

if they straight-up Space Ghost it, i'm sold.
if it's the tonight show but with baby sinclair as the host, hard pass

Earth to Ned is about a blue alien named Ned and his lieutenant, Cornelius, who find themselves abandoning their planned invasion of Earth because they’re too fascinated with popular culture. Their talk show features Ned interviewing celebrities to chat about all the things he finds so amazing about Earth and its people.

I appreciate how they've made this incredibly accurate.

oh, lol i missed the ned connection

xp Would buy ticket

is it just me or does Ned (of the Disney+ show) look suspiciously like the pilot from Farscape

potential house band?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWxbzd96xdc

Sharing relevant Sic posts from the MCU thread:

"I mean they're just going to wind up burning themselves with that shit ultimately, particularly as they continue to lean heavier on regurgitation of their own supply. Cut to five years from now as tumbleweeds drift through a multiplex"
Independent theaters will have been killed by then.

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, October 25, 2019 8:23 AM (yesterday

The Art Theater in Champaign announced today they're closing in six days.

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Saturday, October 26, 2019 9:45 AM (four days ago)

Fathom have been told that two weeks ago's 40th anniversary national Alien screenings are the last time they will ever be able to show any Fox movie.

Balboa Theatre in SF had a Planet Of The Apes festival booked weekend after next, have now lost all eight films to which tickets had already been sold

Christmas screenings of Die Hard have been pulled from multiple theatres in the US and Canada

not sure where today's Leave Her To Heaven screening is meant to be happening

― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, October 29, 2019 6:27 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

The Department of Justice is moving to eliminate a legal agreement that has governed the movie industry since the 1940s, Justice Department antitrust chief Makan Delrahim announced Monday.

The move by the Justice Department signals that regulators believe that certain remedies are appropriate at the time, but should be reviewed to keep up with how industries change.

Delrahim’s announcement, which would alter what is known as the Paramount consent decrees, could change how theaters distribute movies. The rules, which kept major movie studios from owning theaters where their movies were played, were originally put in place to keep studios from collaborating to control all aspects of the industry.

Speaking at an antitrust conference in Washington, Delrahim cited consumers’ ability to watch movies on streaming services as one reason why the agency was seeking to terminate the agreements, along with saying the conspiracy the government was originally trying to amend decades ago no longer exists.

jesus christ, no

christ

five-baggers for everyone

Bob Iger's erection could cut steel today

The Russo Bros. shared their own thoughts on Scorsese's comments publicly for the first time: "Nobody owns cinema. We don't own cinema. You don't own cinema. Scorsese doesn't own cinema"

Sarah Ganske
@thebasementtan

If nobody owns cinema then I guess those Fox movies should pouring onto free streaming services and into rep theaters any second now.

If nobody owns cinema then I guess those Fox movies should pouring onto free streaming services and into rep theaters any second now. https://t.co/UOnIkORn7c

— Sarah Ganske (@thebasementtan) November 17, 2019

who the fuck are the russo brothers

???

https://d1w8cc2yygc27j.cloudfront.net/3950379568584710451/6291558484197892129.jpg

Delrahim cited consumers’ ability to watch movies on streaming services as one reason why the agency was seeking to terminate the agreements

Right now streaming is where the media conglomerates are reenacting the gold rush. In about two years or so more than half the new services will be withdrawn as unprofitable or bought out and absorbed into the handful of winners, who will grapple for a while to test each others' strength, then eventually settle into a comfortable cartel.

Russo Bros. make Marvel movies and...You and Me and Dupree.

Joe and Anthony Russo have directed two of the five highest-grossing films of all time, including Avengers: Endgame, which in July passed Avatar on the all-time list.

_The Russo Bros. shared their own thoughts🕸 on Scorsese's comments publicly for the first time: "Nobody owns cinema. We don't own cinema. You don't own cinema. Scorsese doesn't own cinema"_


_Sarah Ganske
@thebasementtan

If nobody owns cinema then I guess those Fox movies should pouring onto free streaming services and into rep theaters any second now._


🐦[If nobody owns cinema then I guess those Fox movies should pouring onto free streaming services and into rep theaters any second now. https://t.co/UOnIkORn7c🕸
— Sarah Ganske (@thebasementtan) November 17, 2019🕸]🐦

I'd say it's a fair cop, but you compounded the fail by copying the whole thing, but if you hadn't then I wouldn't see this adorable li'l twoot emoji 🐦

guess I'll just fp myself as thanks

copy-pasting others' garbled posts 'compounding the error' you say...?

yeah, you’ve gotta just quote the important bit

it was so important it had to be copied and pasted to get around my blanket block of twitter

Labuza on some possible ramifications

When sizing up the major studios in the 1930s, the DOJ investigated one important question: was there fair competition in the industry? Because small independent films had almost no access to the theatrical market, and all theaters had no choice but to bow to the majors and whatever prices they set, the government decided this had little benefit for the consumer.

The end of the Paramount Decision could have a cultural effect on choice, as theaters may be forced to further limit their options. For example, A24’s success through crossover hits between arthouse theaters and the major exhibition chains will become less likely. A24 might be able to continue to get films like Moonlight, Midsommar, or Lady Bird into arthouse theaters, but would find it difficult to get space in the multiplex that was once amenable to booking smaller films next to a Disney or Paramount blockbuster.

A24 will survive, but the market changes will make it more difficult for new companies to find similar space in the theatrical market. It will be more and more likely that new indies can only make it into theaters through established companies, if not the giants of Netflix and Amazon. Currently, a lot of these artists are turning to streaming services to reach audiences, but if streaming companies start taking over theaters as well, indies will find they’re dealing with the same gatekeepers on all platforms. While the growing success of many arthouse theaters has in many ways depended on prioritizing community involvement and creative programming, their options may become limited. Depending on larger companies to help discover new talent seems anathemic to the successes of films like Parasite (Neon), Tangerine (Magnolia), or Brawl in Cell Block 99 (Cinestate).

https://www.polygon.com/2019/11/20/20974364/justice-department-paramount-decree-disney-netflix-monopoly

Home Alone and Die Hard christmas screenings pulled from the Sun-Ray in Jacksonville

It gives Disney a huge catalog from which to pull remakes while burying the original films. Not kidding. I know writers and directors who have been approached to “pick a project from the catalog.” For a new generation, the original will not be available for comparison. https://t.co/1UfXibNolI

— Eddie Muller (@EddieMuller) December 6, 2019

In its third week of release, Knives Out is #3 at the US box office and still building word of mouth.

Entire multiplexes in multiplex-sized markets are dropping it after this week to screen only Disney's Star Wars and Frozen.

Odeon cinemas in the UK are opening on Christmas Day just to keep that two thirds empty rolling Star Wars screen vibe going as long as possible

Little Women should also be in the mix somewhere

My closest theater has three screens dedicated at least 2/3rds of the time to Jumanji right now

hm, strangely it appears to be doing well.

If you’re wondering why you can’t see the new Terrence Malick in a halfway decent theater anywhere in NY, i’ve been told by theater managers it’s because Disney owns it now & are demanding exorbitant terms. It is unaffordable to most of the venues that would’ve happily shown it.

— MZS (@mattzollerseitz) December 18, 2019

Disney forcing the largest cinema chain in America to refund prebooked tickets for other Disney-acquired movies and show Star Wars on more screens instead.

This is depressing

The Happiest Media Oligopoly on Earth!

the amount of showings my local theater is having for star wars is why martin scorsese is right pic.twitter.com/Nca3CX2O66

— holli (@vlleneuve) December 20, 2019

For anyone bitching about this, you could perhaps just choose not to see Star Wars? It’s a small start.

Me? Not bitching, and not seeing. I'm doing my part.

Of course, I get all the movies that won't make it to most big screens on watermarked DVDs these days, which I may or may not watch over the course of the next 60 days, who cares, no big whoop.

yeah, don't see it, just watch one of the other movies, a 4:00 am showing iirc

The only time Knives Out gets going forward

I’ve seen one Star War in the last 39 years. Black Christmas has been reduced to one screening a day at 11:45pm, and both it and Knives Out are ending altogether on Tuesday. I waited for Jojo Rabbit to reach an independent theatre. My choices are not causing or supporting this behaviour by Disney.

Not gonna see the star war, will most likely continue to bitch

*34 years

Did anyone actually give a shit about Black Christmas

Women, rape survivors, Brett Kavanaugh victims, me

My local Regal theatre is showing a full slate of Star Wars, pretty bfull slate of Jumanji, and two showings of Jojo per day, 6 Bombshells, 6 Cats, four Hidden Life, and even still showing two Midway, five Knives Out, five Ford vs Ferraris, 4 Queen Nd Slim, 5 Richard Jewells...

So if you don't care about Black Christmas, you're pro-sexual assault? That's bold even for you.

Did anyone actually give a shit about Black Christmas

― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, December 20, 2019 9:49 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i do! i wanna see it very badly!!!!

My comment was more directed at the fact that it's been poorly received critically and commercially, which might have something to do with its hasty exit (not directed at you Brad - report back if you see it!!)

Tbf the trailer made it look like generic nu-slasher dogshit

has a good cast, and I was curious about it, but even though it is only a loose remake, it is the second one in the last 13 years.

and the original is one I love dearly

Brad I think you will like it!


So if you don't care about Black Christmas, you're pro-sexual assault? That's bold even for you

pretty sure I said nothing of the sort tbf

even though it is only a loose remake, it is the second one in the last 13 years

it's the first one by April Wolfe! I can't imagine a closer remake would have been a better PG-13 slasher film for teenage girl audiences in 2019.

"bitching" not directed at anyone in particular.
i have tickets to see little women with the little woman on christmas, theaters even in nyc are kinda dead right now

it cold, guy

hasn’t everybody headed back to winesburg, ohio by now anyway?

ha i felt like I was missing a few good series by leaving town but can't remember what they actually were

Agnes Varda, Doc

join the Resistance

Totally normal industry which is in no way headed for a creative reckoning, you love it and you love 2 see it https://t.co/oadCfWN9fG

— Scott Wampler™ (@ScottWamplerBMD) December 24, 2019

That “creative reckoning” is never going to happen. People have been predicting doomsday for the film industry for decades.

that doesn't mean it won't happen, similar to climate change

Well they've made ME sick of superheroes and Star Wars. and i never liked the live-action remakes of cartoons.

all 3 live-action remakes this year were artistic failures -- lady & the tramp didn't even make it into theaters. i can't see them having any shelf life.

That “creative reckoning” is never going to happen. People have been predicting doomsday for the film industry for decades.

Those two things aren't synonymous. You don't need doomsday for a correction, you just need enough people to get tired of existing properties to give them a year over year dip.

Hollywood is usually fairly quick to stop riding a dead horse. They hate, hate, HATE to lose money. They are usually pretty quick to spot where the next profits will be coming from. It's why Cannes, Sundance and the other IFFs still draw the big money crowd looking to cut deals.

Just got my time travel assignment, and it's to torch Walt Disney's 1923 garage. So long Pixar.

— Dennis Perrin (@DennisThePerrin) January 2, 2020

There should be a thread for Dennis Perrin tweets.

funny i only take orders from doctors and my wage enslavers

if you want to get rid of Pixar, you'd probably be better off torching Steve Jobs' garage in the past

why_not_both.gif

Untitled boot stamping on a human face forever

― milkshake chuk (wins), Tuesday, May 7, 2019 6:05 PM

Tiny funkopop boots stamping on our faces forever.

Reboots stamping on our faces forever.

Robin Hood featuring zoo animals voiced by Bobby Cannavale

Princess and the Frog: 2 Ribbit 2 Quit

The entire Marvel Cinematic Universe was built on Favreau convincing a bunch of executives that a middle-aged actor not long out of rehab and prison, who had described himself as "box office poison" even during his earlier 1990s heyday, would be the perfect Iron Man. https://t.co/C6tbVcTE8M

— Zack Stentz (@MuseZack) January 8, 2020

TBF, I'm sure the word of Jon 'director of summer tentpole action movie smash Elf' Favreau carried some weight in that discussion.

Hollywood, I will save you the time you would've wasted on your algorithm construction and suggest that you just create scenarios that favor you haplessly tripping over your own dick, because that seems to be the secret to your success time and time again.

winter tentpole, surely

Jokes bruv, suggesting that even Favreau's CV at the time didn't give him a lot of sway in an argument about what might or might not make for a blockbuster superhero film.

I'm looking forward to these AI-generated movies, though, tbh. Harry PotterPants & the Furious 97: John Wick? starring Brad Pitt-Morgan and Emma StoneStone should be amazing.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fgifimage.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F10%2Fcomputer-says-no-gif-2.gif&f=1&nofb=1

Hanging with Mr Cooper...in Space!

William Fox nor any of his heirs haven’t had any control of the company since 1930. Fox died penniless in 1952. https://t.co/DFMZr59z22

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) January 17, 2020

Twentieth Century Pictures of 1933, merged with Fox Studios in 1935 to form 20th Century-Fox (the hyphen was dropped a half century later in 1985 under Australian Rupert Murdoch). For many years, 20th Century Fox claimed to have been founded in 1915. For instance, it marked 1945 as its 30th anniversary. However, in recent years it has now claimed the 1935 merger as its founding date.

lol Zanuck finally fully erases Fox thanks to Iger

there was obviously some impressive vfx work done in this film but there's something so revealing about the the MCU that they would rather do cg instead of make-up or costuming because they don't want to be locked into having to make real creative choices on set lol pic.twitter.com/di4GRFSpRT

— josh lewis (@thejoshl) February 9, 2020

reply:

Fun fact: a very high % of the people on a film set are in unions, and basically no one in a VFX house is. A cynic might go so far to say the $22 billion annual revenue corporation wants to wrap production as quickly as possible so they can get the labor into the post sweatshops https://t.co/wb00aioWMq

— an cory (@corypalmer) February 10, 2020

via jaymc:

The US domestic box office total for the week of Mar 20-26 was $5,179. The same week in 2019 was $204,193,406.

$5,155 of that was home rentals of an indie shot in Klamath Falls, Oregon, whereby renters can direct $3.25 of their "ticket price" to an independent cinema in a handful of states.

The other $24 was for Lost In America (the new homeless documentary, not the Albert Brooks film).

Kino Lorber is doing something in that vein, VOD of new release indies and foreign films where profits are split with local theaters.

Yeah, Kino did a push for Bacarau last week, and this volunteer-run arthouse in Seattle has switched all possible existing bookings to home rental. I'm guessing that the "Phoenix Oregon" distributor was just canny enough about setting up reporting their takings.

Are you putting together the final pieces to prove that Disney Did Coronavirus, sic?

Disney+ didn't want butts on their platform so they edited Splash with digital fur technology pic.twitter.com/df8XE0G9om

— Allison Pregler 📼 (@AllisonPregler) April 13, 2020

The US domestic box office total for the week of Mar 20-26 was $5,179. The same week in 2019 was $204,193,406

The entire box office last week was $1,710 for Swallow, all at one Florida drive-in.

This week they're showing it in a double feature with Marcel Marceau Vs The Nazis biopic Resistance on one screen, and Trolls World Tour b2b with ET on another, so there could be a top 3 movies reported next week.

An Australian film was #1 for the weekend's US box office!

Jed Kurzel's Peter Carey adaptation The True History Of The Kelly Gang took $9,839 in 5 theatres.

Supposedly it's out on streaming services, but I can't find it in Canada.

this should work afaict

US only

ah, I vpn'd to look but 🤷

It took “Parasite” *nineteen weeks* to get onto 2000 screens. Because it was able to build word of mouth through the awards season.

This is devastating news for mid-size and indie studios.

— Kevin Jagernauth (@jag24fps) July 28, 2020

^ AMC and Universal have signed a deal reducing the theatrical window to 17 days, in exchange for AMC getting a cut of the VOC revenue.

*VOD

jesus christ, no

― mh, Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:21 AM (eight months ago)
christ

― weird ilx but sb (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:57 AM (eight months ago)

five-baggers for everyone

― imago, Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:59 AM (eight months ago)

Bob Iger's erection could cut steel today

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:18 AM (eight months ago)

"Given this changing marketplace, the Court finds that it is unlikely that the remaining Defendants would collude to once again limit their film distribution to a select group of theaters in the absence of the Decrees and, finds, therefore, that termination is in the public interest."

:/

damn, man

wow a little naive maybe??

Or, y'know, completely cognizant of the havoc this will wreak.

'We completely trust The Big Bad Wolf to leave this huge, glistening, scrumptious turkey roast on the counter right where it is'

Sure would love to see that judge's stock portfolio.

Also, Disney phasing out physical media, significantly on the format that favours 20th Century Fox catalogue restorations

when Disney bought Lucasfilm, as contract-holder they stopped paying Alan Dean Foster his royalties on the still-in-print original 1970s Star Wars novels (one ghosted adaptation, one pre-Empire sequel). when they bought Fox, they similarly stopped paying his royalties on the adaptations of Alien, Aliens and Alien³.

Having already had the US copyright law rewritten to suit them several times, they are now attempting to break it through precedent for all prose publishing.

They will not respond to Foster's lawyers, to his agents, or to his professional not-a-union org, and have demanded that he sign an NDA before they will respond to him: http://www.sfwa.org/disney-must-pay/

what??? that is... completely fucked up!

It is. I was just reading that last night. Apparently their argument is that when they bought Fox, they bought the assets but NOT the liabilities. Insane.

Crooked as hell. Hopefully they do the right thing

Tracer wait until you hear about the guy who coincidentally started getting a million-dollar annual stipend from a future division of Disney, after he started going to court to testify that authors don't deserve royalties, because if they'd signed non-existent contracts decades before, the contracts probably would have said they had no rights

Does the world need to fall apart completely for Disney to die?

it’s a small world, after all

Apparently their argument is that when they bought Fox, they bought the assets but NOT the liabilities. Insane.

This is insane enough that, no matter how many high-paid lawyers Disney can throw at this suit, the judge who adjudicates Foster's case needs to award him some sky-high punitive damages. Something so big that Disney stock takes a hit.

They presumably think that the chance of setting legal precedent is worth the risk. And if you're soullessly evil, this is true!

Some discussion over on the "what to watch on streaming services" thread about AT&T, already slashing all their entertainment divisions (and various other ones) in order to make up losses on the botched launch of HBO Max, going day-and-date for all 2021 theatrical releases.

In this Daily Beast interview with Steven Soderbergh, he has several thoughts about this being a moderate move (NB: he has an exclusive deal with HBO Max already):

Is this the beginning of the end for theaters?

No. Not at all. It’s just a reaction to an economic reality that I think everybody is going to have to acknowledge pretty soon, which is that even with a vaccine, the theatrical movie business won’t be robust enough in 2021 to justify the amount of P&A you need to spend to put a movie into wide release. There’s no scenario in which a theater that is 50 percent full, or at least can’t be made 100 percent full, is a viable paradigm to put out a movie in. But that will change. We will reach a point where anybody who wants to go to a movie will feel safe going to a movie.

I think somebody sat down and did a very clear-eyed analysis of what COVID is going to do in the next year, even with a potential vaccine, and said, I don’t see this as being workable in 2021. Because let’s be clear: there is no bonanza in the entertainment industry that is the equivalent of a movie that grosses a billion dollars or more theatrically. That is the holy grail. So the theatrical business is not going away. There are too many companies that have invested too much money in the prospect of putting out a movie that blows up in theaters—there’s nothing like it. It’s all going to come back. But I think Warners is saying: not as soon as you think.

Are you worried that once the genie is out of the bottle, it’ll be difficult to put it back in?

No. I think it’ll finally push the studios and NATO (National Association of Theater Owners) to have some practical and realistic conversations about windowing. Because there needs to be more fluidity. There’s not going to be one template that fits every movie. Every movie is different. You need the flexibility. If you’re in a bad situation, and you’ve got a movie that you opened wide, and you know Friday at 3 p.m. it’s not working, you need to be able to get it on a platform as soon as possible. You spent so much money trying to make this work, and if it didn’t, you should be able to do whatever you want to do. Theaters are going to be pushing you out anyway because you bombed. They’re looking for the next thing that’s going to work. I just think we live in a technological world that allows for fluidity that we’re just not seeing right now. We’re still seeing this broad template that’s supposed to work for everything, and that’s not how it’s going to get solved.

Will theaters wind up being only the domain of big-budget spectaculars?

I think there are a lot of factors to consider when wondering if that’s the way things are going to go. One variable that hasn’t really been scaled up is that, now that we live in an all-digital world, all of these big theater chains have the ability to turn themselves into repertory cinemas in which they screen films from any period of the last 120 years for audiences who’ve never seen them in a theater. There are all these movies from the ‘70s, ‘80s, ‘90s, and early aughts that nobody has seen in a theater. Big hits, great movies. And I’m waiting for somebody to go, OK, we’re going to have a program where everybody knows that on these certain nights, or on the weekend, you put them out. When I was growing up, the repertory cinema had the calendar for the fall, and you would know, oh, they’re going to show Deliverance, they’re going to show this. There are options here to get people back into the habit of going to see movies, and giving them something they’ve haven’t seen before, that aren’t being explored at any sizeable scale. So that’s one thing.

The other thing is, every time we think that it’s just going to be tentpoles and blockbusters—and art-house movies on the other end—something shows up in the middle and works. Downton Abbey made a lot of money. That movie was coming out when we were in discussions with Warners about Let Them All Talk, and I pointed to that as an example of what I consider to be our audience. That’s our demographic; that’s the audience I want. And look, they showed up for that.

I’d love for his multiplex repertory idea to take off but that feels like something that already would have. Fathom Events do not get good reviews locally for picture quality.

it's not totally off-base. My local (non-AMC, non-Regal) chains already do one or two rep screenings a month. i do think it just hasn't fully been done right, aside from smaller examples like Alamo

More writers coming out and forming a task force to try to get Disney to pay the royalties they're ignoring.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/28/disneymustpay-authors-form-task-force-missing-payments-star-wars-alien-buffy

This is such nickel and dime bullshit, all the book and comic royalties they could possibly owe would be a rounding error on one page of their books.

This situation is no longer hypothetical. Fox had licensed the comics rights to Buffy the Vampire Slayer to Dark Horse. After Disney purchased Fox, they withdrew those rights from Dark Horse and granted them to Boom! Comics. When one Buffy author contacted Boom! about missing royalties they were told that “royalties don’t transfer.”

Disney is one of the owners of Boom! Comics.

Surely this is... illegal behaviour?

....from Disney?

Not long ago, in one of the John Carpenter threads, sic gave an overview of how fucked-up Boom is as a comics publisher.

Big Trouble is a film that revels in physicality, I can see light 2D-styled drawing not connecting with someone trying to evoke the film in their reading (the text on that page said Eric Powell, but the image clearly wasn't Powell).

fyi Boom is one of the most outrageously exploitative publishers in the field, reading their output from your municipal library is a better option if you have it.

― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Friday, March 5, 2021 7:26 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's a bummer - I've really been enjoying Something is Killing the Children. How outrageously exploitative are they?

― peace, man, Monday, March 8, 2021 12:04 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

They pay $35 a page for scripts, $100 a page for writing & drawing. Make t-shirts and merch of artists' work without compensation. Underpay invoices, pay months late, sometimes ghost artists altogether. Recruitment model is largely to give young artists their first jobs so it's easier to rip them off. "Some shady stuff in their contracts, and sometimes tries to secretly annul contracts by slipping extra clauses into the fine print of their payment vouchers," per one former worker.

(I assume Tynion is treated better, likewise John Allison - but I have also assumed that Allison stopped drawing Giant Days himself when it went to Boom bcz their rates weren't worth it.)

― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, March 8, 2021 2:24 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh wait, you just posted here in the hour that I've had this thread open. lol.

Ouch. I had no idea they were so bad (or that they were even owned by Disney, before this article) - a shame because I like a lot of their output.

Disney doesn’t own them in whole: 20th Century Fox bought a piece of them in 2017, and Disney inherited that in 2019.

Amusingly enough, Boom! had the licence for Disney comics c. 2009-2010, but it was pulled after repeated contract violations, including sending stories to print without getting them approved by Disney.

great news!

Amazon is weeks into negotiations on a deal to acquire MGM for about $9 billion, industry sources tell Variety.

Chatter that Amazon (and other tech giants) have been sniffing around MGM has circulated for some time. But sources indicated that Amazon’s interest in acquiring the studio has taken on a new tenor beyond the usual rumor mill. The deal is said to be being orchestrated by Mike Hopkins, senior VP of Amazon Studios and Prime Video, directly with MGM board chairman Kevin Ulrich, whose Anchorage Capital is a major MGM shareholder.

https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/amazon-mgm-acquisition-talks-9-billion-1234975168/

https://nitratediva.wordpress.com/2021/05/16/dave-kehr-fox-film-interview/?fbclid=IwAR1XOJwqx0_LtfpfuOAtsWOz0TXS3hY5UGPvN6I8WBRGGCr_C9pQPi04lUM

THIS is why I was afraid that Disney would put the surviving pre-1935 Fox films into the vault next to Song of the South, never to be heard from again. Some of these titles, when I saw them at AFI or Capitolfest, are as jaw-dropping as this interview claims.

Does anyone here have access to MoMA's Virtual Cinema? I hesitate to spend $110 a year for a plethora of artist documentaries that lack the entertainment value of paint drying, in order to access two or three Fox pre-Code films.

$110 a year isn't THAT bad compared to other services, but on top of everything else I'm paying for...

Exactly--I already pay $90 a year for the Criterion Channel, plus whatever ungodly sum per month for cable in order to get TCM.

https://harpers.org/archive/2021/06/stages-of-grief-what-the-pandemic-has-done-to-the-arts/

"We need an art movement like the one we have for food, a movement for responsible consumption."

Okay, but how about transparency and responsibility in art distribution? If I buy a theater ticket/book/concert ticket, how much of what I am paying goes to the creator, how much to venue/production overheads, and how much into corporate coffers?

Amazon Buys MGM

https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/amazon-buys-mgm-studio-behind-james-bond-for-8-45-billion-1234980526/

Does this seem like an actually wise move, or just something Amazon did to prevent Apple or someone else from doing it first?

Didn’t something come out last year that Bezos pushed into expanding Amazon Video because he wanted to meet actresses?

The pre-1980 MGM movies are owned by WB, right?

Up to the Mid-'80s, iirc.

MGM's catalogue is MGM films after that, United Artists, Orion, AIP, and Cannon (with exceptions in each library).

Didn’t something come out last year that Bezos pushed into expanding Amazon Video because he wanted to meet actresses?

🧐 pic.twitter.com/47KH1dxMN8

— cww (@cww_0) May 26, 2021

lol

Jeff Bezos on MGM Acquisition: Amazon Will ‘Reimagine’ Studio Franchises ‘for the 21st Century’

Amazon founder, chairman and CEO Jeff Bezos said the ecommerce giant’s $8.45 billion bid for MGM was driven by a desire to obtain the storied studio’s intellectual property — and create new offshoots based on that.

...

He continued, “The acquisition’s thesis here is really very simple: MGM has a vast, deep catalog of much-loved intellectual property. With the talented people at MGM and Amazon Studios, we can reimagine and develop that IP for the 21s century… People who love stories are going to be the big beneficiaries.”

In his remarks, Bezos cited MGM films and franchises including “James Bond,” “Thelma and Louise,” “Raging Bull,” “Robocop” and “Tomb Raider,” ...

Story #1: People who love stories are going to be the big beneficiaries.

Can't wait for the gritty & gory Moneypenny origin series.

Can't wait to find out what Thelma and Louise are up to on the 30th anniversary of their big weekend

thelma's a a sexy labradoodle
louise is her spaniel sidekick
together they're making furry...... FUNNY

Hope they're able to remake the Robocop remake ASAP.

Can't wait for the gritty & gory Moneypenny origin series

Actually, his name is Pennyworth.

Crossover and spinoff in 3...2...1...

Moneypenny already rebooted as a badass spy in the comics btw
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/james-bond-moneypenny-1/4000-617814/

Moneypenny vs. Pennyworth crossover event.

IN... Le Cheque Exchange

Ouch. I had no idea they were so bad (or that they were even owned by Disney, before this article) - a shame because I like a lot of their output.

Boom are now campaigning for Disney to pay freelancers properly

http://fleen.com/2021/05/25/the-irony-it-is-delicious/

This passion

Here's the new logo for Warner Bros. Discovery, per a press release that just went out. pic.twitter.com/3mbgFUvQb5

— Alex Weprin (@alexweprin) June 1, 2021

BROS.

I bet the Discovery name gets chucked in a few years, just like with AOL.

That is a goddamned horrible logo. Fitting, I suppose.

pic.twitter.com/G80fZ9gamy

— masonReloaded 🐛 (@masonreloaded) June 1, 2021

lol

Yeah, it looks like the intro screen to a mid-'90s educational CD-ROM.

where dreams are made of

where wings take dream

Yesterday I learned only 25 spec scripts sold in 2020.

25.

— Kristi Dick (@FickleProd) June 6, 2021

No, Hollywood Isn’t “Out Of Ideas”

Disney's IP-recycling 'Cruella' has Twitter critics hot under the collar. They don't need to be.

feels like readers should be told that the person who wrote this article is a staff writer on a disney plus comic book adaptation https://t.co/pB5prnzCMy

— bradley babendir (@therealbradbabs) June 8, 2021

lol @ one of the raves being “they spent a lot of money on licensing songs”

— rachel (@rachelmillman) June 9, 2021

Fair. Cruella is good though

There is literally no way this is possible.

It is!

That article, though, is bad

Is Bustle one of those new platforms where creatives generate content in exchange for NFTs or something?

At any rate, here in the future, the epithet 'sellout' is only employed ironically to refer to those who fail to maximize their synergistic potential. So I have to assume she will also be dropping a single on Hollywood Records about how The Last Skywalker is the only good SW movie (from the upcoming album Pro-flicts of Interest).

And yes, I did mean The Last Skywalker, goddammit (only sellouts admit when they make a mistake).

If Smith pops in and tells me Cruella is necessary or worthwhile, and that she's been paid, I'll check it out.

Bustle is a Content Platform with actual writers but it is let's say very amenable to being pitched ideas directly from corporate PR departments

Sad part is we all fell for the clickbait by even talking about it

The only winning move is not to post

this is true, but let's not overlook the Pattinson space brag part of this saga.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3ZCSWNXoAEGu4u?format=png&name=small

High Life’s US distributor:

y/n? pic.twitter.com/WTDCaSGgb1

— A24 (@A24) June 8, 2021

Clearly I'm not entirely unsympathetic to her overarching POV, the difference being that I'm very open about the fact that I'm posting this from the yacht I was able to buy as Disney's brand management coordinator for property acquisitions and enhancements. #princesslieutenantripley

Hong Kong has just issued new amendments to its film censorship rules that effectively impose Beijing’s strict censorship standards there overnight, in the name of the National Security Law. They take effect today.

HK censors are to ban the screening of “any film content that is objectively & reasonably capable of being perceived as endorsing, supporting, promoting, glorifying, encouraging or inciting” acts endangering national security.

Also a ban on screenings of content interpretable as “incitement to secession, subversion or collusion w foreign countries, advocating terrorism," etc etc.

I hate this timeline almost as much as I hate myself.

Fortunately this year's Capitolfest (if it's not canceled for public health reasons) will feature certain pre-1935 Fox films. (Crossing my fingers that it doesn't get cancelled.)

Thread about it

Huge: Hong Kong has just issued new amendments to its film censorship rules that effectively impose Beijing’s strict censorship standards there overnight, in the name of the National Security Law. They take effect today.

— Rebecca Davis (@rebeccaludavis) June 11, 2021

Seen some speculating that HK film reissues might be affected too

So I read the same thread twice today and didn't remember it? I blame vaccine tiredness

While I enjoy Disney/Marvel greatly... They lately sent me copyright strikes on redbubble, for my FACE. Saying it infringed their trademark?!
I'm not wearing a licenced costume. It's my FACE. Like I'm really flattered they say I look like Loki, but...wtf?!@dailydot of interest? pic.twitter.com/fJv4PsxTAF

— 🦇 𝕷𝖔𝖗𝖉 𝕬𝖒𝖆𝖑𝖙𝖍𝖊𝖆𝖓 🦇 (@LordAmalthean) June 21, 2021

tbf (and I brought up Disney's wild overreach on redbubble on another thread y'day) that dude has severely photoshopped his face to look like Tom Hiddleston, and apparently deleted an account called DollarStoreLoki or s/t weeks ago to start this new "who me?" campaign

Extremely lokilike behabiour

Also why wouldn't you go with the handle lowkeyloki or something

lokilike lookalike

we found the lowliest variant

For those of you who are curious about how antitrust works, this is the textbook definition of Robert Bork's consumer welfare standard. pic.twitter.com/JEQZi6DSKW

— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) June 30, 2021

OTOH this is going to be the first Simpsons episode I voluntarily watch in a decade.

I guess they're forgetting about all those Family Guy as Star Wars TV movies Fox put out.

https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/underwire/2009/12/familyguy_somethingsomethin.jpg

is that simpsons thing real? holy fuck.

https://i.imgur.com/PuqtXQV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PuqtXQV.jpg

fucking hell, the joke is that there's no joke i suppose

the whole business of dressing up characters from one chunk of intellectual property as characters from another chunk of intellectual property is so painfully hollow and meaningless. like even as fanservice - okay, ralph's the Hulk and Milhouse is Hawkeye and Lisa's teacher is Gamora. would it really make any difference if Comic Book Guy was the Hulk and Hans Moleman was Hawkeye and Lisa was Gamora? it's like a Colorforms Dress-Up Set; anything can be combined with anything, but what statement results? what's the commentary, what's the "joke"?

bet you’re fun at halloween

tbf, moleman is moleman so they got that right i guess.

the whole business of dressing up characters from one chunk of intellectual property as characters from another chunk of intellectual property is so painfully hollow and meaningless

Would you say it's a New Jersey?

peter-griffin-dressed-as-darth-vader-saying-do-not-want.gif

ok i'll give you Moleman/Moleman

but as for Halloween, what do the two things have to do with each other? these aren't people coming up with costumes, and nobody in the image even looks like they're having fun being in the costumes.

they surely could've thought a bit about connecting the archetypes rather than going Black character=Black character. Explain another reason beyond melanin why Doc Hibbard is Falcon.

Explain why any of this is happening at all. You can't. No one can.

I mean yes, $$$, but otherwise why

Yep. At the risk of being booted off of WB's A-List (emails promoting the corporation'$ late$t product)...a week or so ago I got an email inviting suggestions for WB's 2023 centennial. (My idea was lavish restoration of one or more of their surviving 1923 films, and if that does happen...I might as well have requested a 4K Director's Cut of The Devils.)

One idea the survey floated was crossovers of Animaniacs with assorted other WB properties (Friends was the only IP that stuck in my mind). And the forthcoming Space Jam sequel is already crossover city--I saw King Kong in one ad, and paying just a little more attention would probably have revealed other familiar figures.

twas synergy killed the beast

DC could have cut that post after the first sentence. If you’re doing a Simpsons Halloween episode set piece you can have some sort of meaningful joke (The Shining parody was a total lay-up, really) but there’s… nothing here

I didn’t hate the pre-canceled Family Guy (what was it, two seasons?) necessarily, but the premise to me was “The Simpsons is coasting and we’re going to show how parody is broken now by making it lazy and spiteful” and then they revived it without changing the format and making it an even lazier take on the same crap.

So much of this crap I just sit here wondering who it’s for, and then wonder if my sad take that people just want to feel happy they recognize a cultural reference that every single person watching will get is a sales point for the producers, audience, someone

The crossover stuff is def money-driven and "synergistic" but I do think many fans genuinely love it. Probably why it gets done so much. I loved the Simpsons/Critic crossover as a kid even though Matt Groening spoke out against it

that seems so lazy and low-stakes in retrospect! it also seemed like a weird tonal crossover at the time, but today it’d be just.. this week’s episode

I don't think my brain, or the brains of many fans now, are doing much beyond "I like A, I like B, A + B = !!!". it's primal

the Simpsons already had its own comic book universe in radioactive man and fallout boy etc. this just seems like that but without the trademark avoidance dance

In fairness, the Loki thing is 4:30 minutes long, and the 'plot' finishes after 2:30 - the credits has a bunch more colorforms - Comic Book Guy is Thanos! The other Simpsons are Guardians of the Galaxy! It would be fine on Tumblr.

“The Cinemateca Brasileira houses and protects the entire memory of Brazilian Cinema in its archives, from the first documentaries shot in the early 20th century to the Cinema Novo masterpieces. In its 45,000 titles, the Cinemateca holds a register of our national identity in construction, of our culture being redefined through time.”

https://core-cms.bfi.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/responsive/public/1440/0/0/2020-08/cinemateca-brasileira-masters-vault-2020.jpg

“Until recently, the Cinemateca Brasileira was considered a center of excellence for film restoration, thanks to its personnel and technical capabilities.”

Brazil’s film archive is facing wipeout, 4 August 2020

Cinemateca Brasileira, the largest audiovisual institution in South America, under threat by Bolsonaro government
The government has fired all 41 technical staff, who safeguard an important collection of more than 250,000 works

Gabriella Angeleti, 27th August 2020 23:34 BST

The imminent tragedy that so many have been trying to prevent by speaking out on the dangerous precariousness of the Brazilian Cinematheque is now a reality — BRAZILIAN CINEMATHEQUE IS ON FIRE as reported by the local media #SOScinematecabrasileira #cinematecaisburning pic.twitter.com/IMhnH1IlaZ

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 29, 2021

Just this past Sat (7/24) the fired workers of #SOSCinematecaBrasileira were protesting on Avenida Paulista, São Paulo’s main avenue, to alert everyone about the dangers facing Cinemateca — another call that went unheeded pic.twitter.com/YVcQy1YMUN

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 30, 2021

Firemen told @GloboNews that one of the Cinemateca Brasileira warehouse rooms that caught fire was storing films from the 1920s pic.twitter.com/LVBEwoCuOE

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 30, 2021

Remember the time when the gov. sent federal police to FORCE THE WORKERS OUT of the Cinemateca and to take over and lock it up https://t.co/BZI9b4hbI4 pic.twitter.com/XpG0AvKQfJ

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 30, 2021

They were there for months without receiving pay, taking care of the archives https://t.co/uGBFN0oRuU pic.twitter.com/Q2L5LOA1uP

— Ela Bittencourt (@Ela_Bittencourt) July 30, 2021

good lord

fuck

Statement from the workers regarding last night's fire at the Cinemateca Brasileira (pdf)

SF Museum Of Modern Art has axed their film program, 86 years after beginning and five years after renovating their theatre, due to decreased attendance in the last year.

Damn.

Huh! I wonder why people stopped going to movies last year? There must be a reason. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Torrenting as pure responsibility

How it started How it’s going pic.twitter.com/G7LD8DshPM

— elevator to the giallos (@mxy_mabuse) July 7, 2021

Great news for Disney but tough night for Disney and Disney https://t.co/WmBLF3RBwe

— Ben Joseph (@jenboseph) December 18, 2021

lol
actually feel sorry for Nightmare Alley

The irony is that Del Toro's Blade 2 was one of the first-wave Marvel adaptations to get critical acclaim as well as box office. Same year as Raimi's first Spider-man, iirc. So in a round about way, Disney owes Del Toro.

True shit. Just got an email from my theater asking if I wanted to cancel my tickets for NIGHTMARE ALLEY because they cancelled every other show to free up the screen for more Spider-Man showings. pic.twitter.com/tpdfD7VjqG

— Reyna Cervantes (@Jfcdoomblade) December 19, 2021

sad lol

what's truly demoralizing here is that even being the second film adaptation of preexisting literary source material isn't unoriginal enough to go up against the second multiple-spider-men movie of the past three years

1 2 MCU

i got an email last week alerting me that A NEW DEVICE HAS BEEN USED TO LOGIN TO YOUR DISNEY ACCOUNT, which i completely assumed was a phishing email because i have never created a "disney account" and my old espn account was (is?) tied to a different email address. then i looked at it and realized it was sent because i logged in to the national geographic website to read an article on my phone, so due to a magazine subscription i've had since the '90s, i guess i now have a disney account. i mean, i slightly prefer natl geo content being controlled by the mouse rather than rupert murdoch, but it would be nice if neither did.